T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ostanes Tech: Is there a function I can use with MUSHclient to play a sound in a trigger? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nilath Tech: the option is there under triggers T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=8086 T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ostanes Tech: So it is... awesome T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I try a mapper goto and accidentally add a 0 to the room number, how do I clear the error? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Restart MUSHclient T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: that comes up with Alias function "map_goto" not found or had a previous error. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Look T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: the gmcp data will resend and put you back where you started T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Look did nada T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I modified the code not to have this error.. but then I upgraded MUSHclient and lost the mod (was a simple fix) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If anybody would tell me it's important, I'd do it again and submit a patch. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Moving doesn't either - hang tight I'll reboot... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Report the bug to fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: he'll include it if it's that big of a hassle T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: especially if you provide the fix. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK reboot works - strange thing to fail on though... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm, I can't reproduce your problem, Vakieh. Maybe you too should upgrade? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I distinctly remember having the same problem. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what version should I be running? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The latest from googlecode, of course (= T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: also the goto parameter needs to have 5 digits + a 0 - try it at the entrance of Desolation w/ room # 19569(0) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what error? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Couldn't handle an additional 0 I accidentally hit, subsequent calls to goto failed T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Fiendish, if mapper doesn't know of a room, mapper used to break down. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: actually, the best way to reproduce that error, is to go to a zone where you have a room that it lists, but cannot find a path to under 300 rooms. Then goto that room #. I get it all the time, and have to reboot Mush, because I am still fairly new and dont have a crap ton of cexits done yet. But unloading and reloading the addon does NOT fix it, you have to reboot the client T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that has probably been fixed already T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The not found, or the extra 0? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all of those T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, I can confirm (= T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ver 2.5, or am I running an old one? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok kool bro, sorry, was just adding to the information on how they could recreate. I been away for a few weeks and havent gotten the new version yet :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you type checkversion and nothing happens, you've got an old version. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the new version hasn't been officially released yet T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra is using r812. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lasher is on vacation and the next official release won't happen until he gets back T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you can get the latest snapshot from the google code repo T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yeah I saw the url in forums though, might download it since it fixed this hehe, I always do that T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, so do I upgrade the enire MUSHclient, or just the mapper plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: everything T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Check out the section of http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm called "Upgrading the client" T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it has instructions T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: thanks Fiendish, that fix is great for me T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "Honey, was this great for you as well?" T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Many thanks, see you once I've upgraded T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: hey fiendish got time for another question? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: usually T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: will those instructions in upgrading also pertain to reformatting my laptop? I am getting ready to do just that and want to save all my MUSH settings and such T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why not just backup the mushclient folder? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but to answer your question, yes T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok, well I was gonna do just that, but since the new version is on repository I figured I would install it fresh after my reformat... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: and thank you T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh dear jeebus this is worse than going from XP to 7!!! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: Anyone know of a good program for windows that will allow me to create vmware images? I don't have the $$$ for workstation and the others aren't very accessible, was going to have a friend remote in and help me install a few different flavors of *nix so I could test a couple projects. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: most distros package vmware images ready to run? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: OOO. Didn't know about that. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: so all he'd have to do is help me get ssh installed. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: haven't checked in a while but vmware had a web page with links to various prepackaged images T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: sweet, I'll go google it--thanks. :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use virtualbox instead T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I don't think it's accessible. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: guess it's worth looking into though. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: virtualbox is much simpler to use, it's like wmvare workstation used to be T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: But, VMWare does have the free Converter to capture images, is that what you need? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: haha, yeah. if it's accessible, I'm game. vmware isn't all that accessible with jaws or NVDA, but I can sort of fight with it to get it to do what I want. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: nd it is possible to load Converter images into VirtuallBox. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: naw. I just needed something to let me create images from distros so I could test them out. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/ for example T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: sweet. prepackaged stuff is better since my friend is taking classes, so less time to help me out. There's not to many ways to hack distros into letting me install like i used to anymore, I remember a version of bsd I used to have that would let me run through serial, so I could just set up a virtual serial port and let vmware use that and crt from the other side. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, so I've got the new version of MUSHclient up and running T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: two issues though - can I change the z-order of the miniwins? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: and now I'm seeing spellup tags - any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, so I've got the new version of MUSHclient up and running T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: two issues though - can I change the z-order of the miniwins? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: and now I'm seeing spellup tags - any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does your prompt end in %c? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yes - needed that for Bast's T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I've found the %c bit seems to be critical :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure you have the spellup plugin installed. that's not part of the package T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't use a spellup plugin yet T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the z order of miniwindows is controlled by right-clicking on a given miniwindow and choosing "Bring to front" or "send to back" T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you must have at one point or you wouldn't be seeing spell tags T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tech affon and affoff? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: exactly T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, how do I switch them off again - I probably loaded one up to try, maybe I copied the settings across somehow T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tags spellups off T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK cool - now apparently Bast's miniwin's don't have a send-to-front option, nor do they have a rc menu? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: correct T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is that something you know how to fix? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Bast is aware of the issue and may be working on a reasonable solution T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So no easy hack yet :-( T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: last I spoke with Bast about it, he wasn't sure if he wanted to adopt my mechanism yet T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wanted to? Does he have a choice when you control the package? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish chuckles politely. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose that's one way of looking at it T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That'd be like saying you don't want to support directx 10 because you prefer 9 O.o T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I am in a bit of a privileged position on this. I try not to arbitrarily break support for other people's work, but in this case the new mechanism introduced in MUSHclient 4.73 was just significantly superior to the old name hacks T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so I built my method based on the new feature, and he just hasn't updated yet T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how he accomplishes that update is entirely up to him T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So Nick writes MUSHclient, you write the aard version, and Bast writes extra plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a good enough approximation of the truth T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast has contributed to the aard package, I've contributed to mushclient. but for the most part, yeah. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Guess I'll keep an eye on things and see if he jumps on the z-order bandwagon then :-) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least if he decides to use my method it should be very easy for him to work into his plugins T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I actually assumed MUSH used a z-order already, and the update just made it accessible - guess not T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's kind of complicated T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: originally miniwindows were ordered alphabetically based on identifier string T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which led to both he and I inventing different name hacks where the miniwindows would get deleted and created again T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: er T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: him and me T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh dear... That sounds like a dailyWTF moment right there :-) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I always realize that grammar mistake too late T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, I talked about some issues I was having with working around this limitation on the mushclient forums and proposed the idea of proper ordering not based on names T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that could be adjusted without having to delete the windows T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast didn't have this problem, because his method was technically less ambitious T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so anyway, Nick added a proper ordering feature in MUSHclient 4.73 which is the current latest version T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which I use T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, I have checkversion now, so that's a plus T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cool T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the alias for running an actual version check manually (super secret info btw) is 'package update check' T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's the server ping on start? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it'll throw up an infowin if I'm out of date? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I know sometimes people don't close mushclient for a long time T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yup T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Should probably 24-hr trigger that one :-) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I considered it, but I don't really like the idea of windows popping up in the middle of, for example, a fight T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: like mapper update =P T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hehe T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's bad enough that the mapper does its automatic backup on a 24 hour timer T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: backup, sorry =P T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least that's over in a few seconds and goes away on its own T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does aard have a way of telling the plugins you're in combat? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can actually make the backup happen instantly, but it would require not zip compressing the database T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I didn't want to waste a bunch of space on someone else's computer T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I assume like sending an incombat tag and finishing with a outcombat tag T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll run a poll for the next release and see if anyone else actually cares about that T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Vakieh, there are like 4 ways actually T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a good point T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: would you mind filing a bug report on my site? the mapper shouldn't run a backup in combat T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: my databse is like 9 Megs, I think it's ok not to compress T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, sure - that's the google repo? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be careful with people running on thumbdrives though T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: actually, can't you add a toggle? so people can choose whether to compress it or not T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can do all sorts of things T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Less different options is better. Fewer bugs, less to test. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: less player confusion T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mapper is already a bit of a beast with options T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just so I'm clear, the backup takes a snapshot of the known areas, compresses it and saves it? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: (disclaimer: not using mushclient, just making general statements) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it closes the database files, zips them up, and drops them into db_backups T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could you make an uncompressed copy (in app mem, not hd) so the app can keep using its dirty one, then compress and save the clean copy in the background? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think having two db files was kind of a stupid idea. the second one is barely used at all T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can't you put the zip into another thread, so it happens behind the scenes? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure I can spawn other threads T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: execution calls wait for return T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I could probably write up a little script that returns right away, though T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is this happening in LUA, or are you adding this to MUSHClient itself? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is Lua T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient is not multithreaded, btw T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hmmm, I don't know enough about LUA to help I'm afraid... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't worry. I know enough T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also lua isn't an acronym T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use it capitalized because I feel the info website is arrogant in asking me not to :-) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Plus it's Brazil :-P T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK issue submitted, though I'm sure it also sent you an email :-) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Hi I have written a program that allows GMCP on all mud clients, please test and report any bugs you find if you are interested (http://duckbat.com/gmcp.zip) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: It works like a proxy T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can you compile it for linux? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Does it do MCCP as well? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: It does mccp too yes T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: wow, pretty nice. which clients have you tested? i can test some, don't really need it myseel though T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I tested zmud and telnet T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Windows XP/vista/7? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yes windows, probably runs on wine too but I don't have linux to test T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Interesting, I will definitely look into this. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd like to run it as a daemon on my vps T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Thanks, if you have questions or find bugs please tell :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oot, see on cli app? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Forgot to say it also allows multiple connections so you can connect to your character from multiple locations T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I need help with the gai cmud mapper T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: report in first, ask questions later T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's a mapper window, there's a db loaded T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I click Hide, it hides T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I restart, and it's not loaded T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have to do alt-m to make it load T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I don't hide it it loads auto T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it's ugly-ass and I wanna hide it T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I can put my cyber window there T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: how about just minimize it? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't be minimized T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: as in, it's already minimized T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: sorry, was thinking of spellup T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: drag it so it's mostly off main window T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's a hide option which is nicer T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: isn't logical for it to just not load on startup T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right I needed to 'save session layout' apparently T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: telnet does not display my input aka the text i type before i press enter T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: google telnet echo T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try dl-ing MUSHClient T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: im using the pc at schoolo T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can run MUSH from a thumbdrive T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: btw does anyone here have a blackberry, thanks for the help T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try asking on mxit channel - lots of people do T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: blackberry is not related to mxit but the phine part is T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: phone T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: people using phones often go on mxit for the textspeak T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coffy Tech: hay do any of you kn0w if there is a app for aardwolf on a phone without useing mxit? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye there are apps T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I know there are people playing on android T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tho I don't remember the apps, Icecool was playing on it T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and you can ask on question channel too T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coffy Tech: ah thanx alot T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just wondering out loud about GNU screen... I managed to split it into 4 panes, how do I resize one of them? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And what happens if I try to reattach this setup on a narrower device, say ... my phone... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: What was the syntax again for editing descriptions whilst seeing the color coding used in it? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Why are my left/right arrows scrolling this excel 2007 document instead of changing which box I have selected, and how do I make it stop? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: tap your scroll lock key T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: you probably have your scroll lock on T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That did it, thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: sure thing :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: The scroll lock button actually has a feature T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: how do i make an alias for magic missile i cant seem to figure it out T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: alias mm cast 62 T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: what does the cast 62 mean T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 62 is the spell number for magic missile T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: simpler than cast 'magic missile' T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: ok so 1 more question how do i find out the spell number T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: show T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: ahhh ok thank u very much T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: hmm for some reason when i type mm and than the mob name it says you cant do that T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: ok im putting mm in the alias box and cast 'magic missile' in the send box but when i type mm mob it doesnt work T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: you need a *. mm * T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: in the first edit box T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you an just use the ingame alias... just type alias mm cast 'magic m' T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: works good especially if your using telnet.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: i have mush client T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: it will work either way,. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: how do you read that exactly? * 0 or more . anything's but whitespace followed by mm string with a * anything of 0 or more quanityt? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: musch client alias's don't make much sense to me when you try and replace something or insert something T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: how do i use ingame alias T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: type: alias mm cast 'magic m' T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Help alias T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: then you can do mm T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: just type alias T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Necroshine, please be more specific T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: the .* mm * T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: you say put that in the first box, but that still doesn't make sense when trying to make sense of it T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: like i alias kill to backstab... alias k backstab T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: you said *. mm * my bad, that makes even less sense at looking at it T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: alias T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: first box: "mm *" <- (no quotes) w/out regular expressions enabled, send box: "cast 'magic missile' %1" T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: regular expressions have thousand page manuals written about them (in a few standards) so maybe there's something i'm missing T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: mm (.*) if you want to enable regular expressions T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: mm * is a MUSH capturing pattern T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: where * stands for 'anything' T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: like shell scripts? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: in terms of regex it'll convert to a capturing group (.*) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: have no clue about shell scripts T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i see what you mean now, * anything followed by a . none-whitespace character followed by a space, but then there's the mm *. mm *, followed by a space followed by anything T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so it still doesn't make total sense to me, but that's ok cause i won't be using it, and regular expressions can be frustrating as the author wants T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: never take up perl then...its about as frustrating as Lisp T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: mm * is not a regular expression, don't try to use regex explanation T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: perl's flexible though, you can type like trash and you can type in c T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: mm * is only used when regex is turned off (default MUSH capturing) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: and '*' in default mush capturing stands for literally anything. it will capture as much as possible T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i like the language Smallworld Magik.. its a big GIS version managed db.. but the langauge is so nice to use.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: so mm * captures anything after a whitespace after mm T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: whats the %1 for? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: first capturing group in pattern T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: first * if non-regex capturing T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linarious Tech: oh ok T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: pattern 'mm * ab *', matched on 'mm first ab second' will return %1 holding 'first' and %2 holding 'second' T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: %1 %2 are used in the box below so if you match something its stored in the %1 variable and the next captured text is stored in %2 T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: if you do something like The * is closed. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you can do open %1 in the box below to have it open.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: could you type in mm *, and type mm oo cow , then type c 'magic missile' %2 in the send box? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i think i understand now, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: not %2, but %1 T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: %1 is the first occurance of *, %2 is the second, etc T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: anybody know a way to combine two aardwolf mapper databases?:) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: what client? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: oh sorry on mush:) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Messy Jesse shakes his head. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: do iut thru a sqlite front end.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The MUSHclient database is just a sqlite, I think. Should be technically possible to combine them without much pain. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: hmm okay shall google sqlite! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: make a backup before you start messing around with it tho T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: soon you will be an expert with sqllite :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: nods, on a disk that isnt in comp :P T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: just to reconfirm..i only copy the db when mush is closed yes? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: Anyone who can assist me with a script/trigger? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: No one T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can help T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: I need 2 kinds of Triggers/scripts (really not sure what's the difference) .. .. A Vorpal one and QPs per Quest one that ONLY fires in a Group T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: they have a gain monitor that does the qp exp etc.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and how were you planning on detecting if you were in a group? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: monitor gmcp broadcast to see when you join a group T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: That's why i need assistance T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: he can only do that in a plugin though.. or so i beleive T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: are you using the mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: Yes MUSH T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: good news! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: how is your VI stuff coming Winkle T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a good way to start perhaps is find the aardwold_group plugin and see how it uses gmcp to access group information T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coffy Tech: whats wrong with mud-mxit T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: the wiki page does a good job explaing it. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my VI is going really well! I've got a Channels/quest/CP sound pack.. a serch adn destroy plugin a lite spellup plugin and ... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: i have the Group plugin T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did someone just ask what's wrong with mxit? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and a Quest / CP status bar plugin T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/ T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coffy Tech: i did T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, there's nothing right with mxit. it's worse than plain telnet, actually T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: don't have that one Winkle T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmmm.. lemme look T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it shoudl be aard_group_monitor_gmcp.xml T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if not get fiendish's latest aard mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's in \worlds\plugins T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coffy Tech: so what app are there for aard to play via a phone? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: what kind of phone? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any ssh client that connects you to a computer capable of running a decent cli client T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: i got the Aard_group_monitor plugged in .. is that the gmcp one? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: the function that does its OnBroadcast something or other.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I use Blowtorch on Android-based devices a bit. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: and oninstall to request the initial info.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: you mean no hackers have figured how those gadgets work, and made package building options for it? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i'd look around freshmeat/sourceforge and other places, you can probably find at least the platform to make binaries for the gadgets operating system, maybe with uploading some support files T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i think the tricky part with those might be the touchscreen interface T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i think that's what makes the converted program's worth so much money T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are some droid phones that don't suck (e.g. they have a keyboard) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: yeah, you can get keyboards for most of those things, but using them as they are with custom software might require the ability to code the understanding of the keystroke functions in the program T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i'm not sure if maybe they use a different system call, and the keyboard would make them accessible or what T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: letters still represent letters afaik T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i really haven't played with one, yeah T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: look in the function OnPluginBroadcast (msg, id, name, text) to see how the group info is accessed T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to do this you will HAVE to write a plugin script like this.. as you can't access broadcast information from an alias or trigger T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: didja get that SirRaven? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: how can i turn off stuff like {chan ch=clantalk} in zmud? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: tag off ? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tag chat off T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, 'tag channels off' T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: Thanks!\ T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Windows Media Player pisses me off. It shouldn't be duplicating every song in my library, making me look like I have 48k songs instead of 24k. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: don't use it T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: Use VLC T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: drop every mp3 in a playlist, play in shuffle and repeat and your more than fine T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I might go back to Songbird or Media Monkey. :P I have VLC, but I use that for video playback only. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I might even go back to... WinAmp... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: By the way, anyone know if there's a way to stop the firewall pop up notifcations from AVG? I'm getting frustrated by it telling me every time it allows an exception, but apparently I can't find a way to disable the notification. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: get Avira.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That wasn't an option. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Please stick to answering my question. :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: Ok, are you using 2k11? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Probably, it's whatever the latest version is. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (By the way, I wasn't intending to talk down on you about your suggestion. It just didn't answer my question. :P) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: there should be an notification area for that, but have you tried adding manually exceptions through c:\program files etc? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not even sure where I would begin to do that. Hmm. Maybe I /WILL/ go with Avira, if you really think it's better than AVG. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Problem is, my brother uses this, too... :\ T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I use avast personally. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the free avast is awesomesauce T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: microsoft security essentials is actually pretty good, might give it a try T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: use linux instead T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, I have that too, Gonf. I've liked it since it first came out. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: it's personal favouritism I think, but i dropped on avg when 2k11 came out and it ****ed up my pc with cpu burning.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: avg sucks T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mse is the best free one right now T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli looks at Faetally Faerlun and goes "Hmmmm." T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: where does Norton stand (full package)? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: norton is malware T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: Norton? Somewhere in the Pacific ocean, in some kind of tectonic plate crack.. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Norton is bloatware. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: oy! leave me alone. :( T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faetally Faerlun grins evilly at Thunderous Norton. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's a piece of crap that should never have been brought to life. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Sorry, Norton. :P T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: WHAAAAT? There's a character named Norton too? :P hhehehe T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faetally Faerlun Tech: I saw that coming.. He's an oldie here ;) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i'm named after a motorcycle. not a piece of crap T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: The name Mcafee is available for use. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Thunderous Norton. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf pokes Thunderous Norton in the ribs. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think all symantec's products blow T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so is Avg T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: let's make alts named after antivirus software and have AV wars T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i lose T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we can even point to Norton and whine about how he's ruining Aard. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: kaspersky i liked for windows T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i use security essentials now cause it's free , but the people who made the other made a thorough one T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Kapersky doesn't play nice with security-wrapper software like Armadillo. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: if you made an exception it probably would, but if armadillo kept trying to penetrate the system then it has a reason to complain T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's not the issue. The issue is that one thinks the other is a system debugger and the application you're trying to open doesn't open. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so, do you have the data execution bit disabled? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: maybe armadillo uses that, or you're running more than one antivirus which shouldn't be T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's the data execution bit? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: it prevents byte's in a data sector from being executed as data in a code sector T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: part of window's setup that kaspersky might consider T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: heh. there's a way around that though sometimes. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: tough to over-rule cpu addressing with virtual memory T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: but i guess it could be done T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: well yeah, but there's the esp springboard when you're using shellcode and the like. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Is there a way to reset the box locations on the aard mushclient? i know before you could type initaard or something. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yesterday I asked if anyone knew a way to keep the iTunes mini window on top always and someone suggested a plug-in or app, I thought floater? is that right? anyone remember? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TheCreator shoots you for using ITunes. :p T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Afloat. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i'm on a mac, its the best choice. and i like it. :p T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah, that's it. thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: ah, yeah. It's not bad on OSX. The windows version sucks though. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: infinite-labs.net/afloat/ T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: agreed, i refused to use it when I had a PC. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: "Carbon applications like the Finder and iTunes wonJ Preferences; on Mac, go to iTunes > Preferences. The keyboard shortcut to open iTunes' preferences dialog on Windows is Ctrl+, (the comma key) and Command+, on Mac. This keyboard combination may seem odd, but it is well followed standard on Mac applications; (there is no such standard keyboard shortcut for program options on Windows.) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Apparently, it's under the 'advanced' tab in preferences. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: But according to this site, it's there. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: found it, THANKS! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: No need for silly programs! ;) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: too late, that's already installed. :p T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: maybe I'll use it for some other program. who knows T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli grins evilly. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: that's one thing I can give osx. I love just deleting one folder and the program (for the most part) being gone. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The equivalent for Windows is actually PowerMenu. I might have to look into that to keep VLC up when I'm MUDding. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: right now i've got EQ to sort. (ok yeah, removing software is easy-peasy!) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: eh? powermenu just puts your app on the system tray (that what you wanted)? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: "Description: PowerMenu is a small application that adds some extra menu items to the windows control menu: Always On Top, Transparency and Minimize To Tray." T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: ah, yeah. always on top and transparent messed with my reader, but the system tray tool was sweet. Wasn't sure what you were going for, forgot about the other two. :p T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Encountering some major problems with bast's spellup plugin T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: "trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: can't even see if people are replying, error message takes up all of screen T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i just use a spellup trigger after everytime i kill something.. works better imho T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If a plugin is troubling you T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Disbale it. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And disable too T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: anyone with cmud have an inventory script they wouldn't mind sharing hehe T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Inventory script as in how? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, Akuri, if you're going to ask a question, you might want to respond to the person who could possibly help you... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: what is dumb client? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: like on clients list, theres a dumb one is that the actual name of it? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: No, it means it's a dumb client that doesn't interact with the MUD and tell it what client it is T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's the name of it, yet. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Or maybe it's smart :P T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Wouldn't that be unidentified/unknown though? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: reinstalled, same problem T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Disabled everything, became a pain. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: now i have a sq foot of space on my monitor T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you're not a pain T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: The plugins became a pain lol. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko smiles. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish chuckles politely. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: 0-h 20 T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: fail. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: ahh, in CMUD changing foreground colors has to be done for each window, I can finally see dark blue :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: hehe. can anyone help me using tells on how to install bast's spellup plugin and how to troubleshoot T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli smirks at Chimeishio's saying. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast raises hist had. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast raises his hand. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: still same problem dammit. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: It works fine, till i close the mushclient and reopen T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: have %c at end of your prompt? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload broadcast_spellskills T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: okay T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: how do i reset my windows in mushclient to default? i'm using v 4.7 T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: 2 T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Default? What do you mean? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Isn't there some command, like aardinit? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: default starting T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: I believe it's initaard. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: "Sorry PastamanT, you can't do that." T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oladaon: It is resetaard I thought. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: PastamanT, are you using the Aard version of the MUSHclient? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Yesh T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: v4.72 from the site T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: PastamanT: Did you try resetaard? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yup T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did not work? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: did not work T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: You do have parsing on, right? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: and the plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: enabled? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: hehe. my plugins are gone T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: thats why I was trying to do this T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: ... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT ) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oladon: Can I slap him? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT baps himself upside the head, realizing his own stupidity..You agree. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Turie: Please. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT slaps himself, really strange ... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie has just smacked PastamanT into oblivion! RUN, before you're next!! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: taken care of T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: hehe T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: how do i restore the default plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Pastamant: You need to reload all those plugins! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yeah, all the ones in the plugins folder? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Press ctrl+shift+p. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Question. I'm good enough with zscript, but know nothing of Lua. It might be worth it to me to learn Lua so I can write my own bo.... scripts for MUSHclient. How hard is it to learn Lua, being a zscript writer? Easy or royal pain? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: From there, click on add and look for the plugins in the MUSHclient>World>Plugins folder. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've found LUA to be super easy, but never used that other scripting language you refer to T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Zscript is what zmud/cmud uses. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: As a person who had never touched Lua before Mush, it's pretty easy - though it does a lot of things I find silly. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I recommend just committing to it...it's always a pain to learn something new, and do things a little differently then you are used ot. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like cmud well enough, but the lack of portability is a problem. Zmud is portable, but it's old. I need a different solution. Zugg just ain't cutting it anymore. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The new mushclient is pretty amazing T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: PastamanT: You can do it another. go to http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list and download the new snapshot. Once downloaded, extract the files, delete the Aardwolf.db from the main unzip folder and copy and paste over to your original MUSHclient folder. REMEMBER TO CLOSE MUSHclient before doing this! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I also don't care for plugins and whatnot, though admittedly I haven't tried any. I just prefer to write my own stuff, and zscript enables me to do that. But as I said, Zugg just isn't cutting it no mo' and given that I work on a drilling rig with nothing else to do, it might be a good time to try something new. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I've looked at Lua a bit, bit it reminds me a lot of C, and I couldn't get C to work at all. Even 'hello world' wouldn't run. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How did you manage to not get 'hello world' in C running? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You'll have to ask Jesus that question, because I don't know. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Starling: Did you look at the forums on how to make a trigger, alias, and a targetting alias? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Huh. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's shameful, I know. But there it is. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nick has created some videos about it. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Libraries, compiler, bad includes? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I mean, it -is- hello world... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Surely there were some error messages. Or I've got my literal hat on. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Again, direct that question to God/Jesus/Buddha/Captain Howdy, because I couldn't figure it out. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Right, OK. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But would love to learn Lua and get on board with MUSH. I just have so much stuff written in zscript. Math functions, potion quaffer, spell casters, my whole game engine is written in zscript and has been built up over the last 10 years. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: To redo all of that is one hell of a task. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: aren't you blind, Starling? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm not blind T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: weird. I thought you were for some reason. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nope T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well sometimes redoing stuff can be part of the fun right? I mean you've learned a lot, can add new features :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: same things holding me back from switching T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm 20/150 in my left eye and 20/40 in my right. Definitely not blind :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: haha. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Plus much of the stuff you refer to, already exists, and can be edited to suit your needs if it isn't exactly as you wish T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: Lua's pretty handy. I never played with zmud as it's not accessible, but I've seen scripts in it. it always made my head hurt. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Starling: You can convert your aliases and triggers over to MUSHclient. The scripting part is a little different. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie is 20/400+ and 20/350+..... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shame multiplaying is illegal. Would be useful to have two chars online and compare scripting functions side by side. Maybe on test port. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Starling: That is what Testport is for. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'd like to put say messages in a another window instead of communication log, I've tried duplicating aard_channels_fiendish.xml and enabling and disabling triggers appropriately, but the both comm windows end up with same stuff T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm planning to make this easier in the future T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko smiles and says, okay. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Setting up the new MUSH, and adding Bast plugins. Anyone around that can give me a bit of help when I run into problem? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast is offline T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks Fiendish, if I have a simple question just about MUSH, you gonna be around for a bit? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, though in another window. i'll pop in every few minutes T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks, appreciate it. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: np T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: when I use runto, in my main window I get, {coords}0,42,25 every step. Is there a way to toggle that off, without messing up the ASCII mapper or gmcp mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: TAG COORD OFF T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't do that T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you have the bigmap plugin loaded? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: K, undoing it. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually hold on T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you said you just got the client package? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you get it from the google code page or from aardwolf.com? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Aardwolf.com T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'll have an easier time if you get the version from the google code page T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ahh ok, happen to have or know an easy way to find the download page? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there will be a new release on aardwolf.com when lasher gets back from vacation T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Just google search aard mush code page? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: bleh. updates... T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nice, thanks. Gonna change out. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fingering fiendish would be the easy way to find the download page T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh yeah. I forgot about that T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheni :p T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: thanks guys. bbiab T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Is it just me, or does everyone encounter this same problem with bast's spellup plugin. Every time I start Aardwolf through Mushclient, an error message appears and clogs my screen, until i reload the broadcast_spellskills plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: It's an easy fix, just want to find out if I'm the only one? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I actually don't have that problem T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: What version are you using? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: MushClient v4.72, the version of bast's stuff thats on his stie T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: site T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: That's an old version. Get the google code version. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: well, isn't that bast's site? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: I got it from the code.google.com/___ that he has T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he means an old version of mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Type checkversion and tell me what it says T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yeah, there's 4.73, but I don't want to upgrade for a minor version T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read this page: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Versions T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Karzon: "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles." T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Then yes, it's a really old version. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: its 4.72! T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: That's the version of mushclient, not the aardwolf package. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: PastamanT: see the link I just posted T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Okay T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: lol at that page T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: ah crud. how long will it take to upgrade? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: about 30 seconds longer than it takes to download T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depending on how fast you can move your hand :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT ) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Another day, it's late now :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Upgrading T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Seem to have a page for everything :D T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I tried to make one T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Seems easy enough, tomorrow is a good day. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: new problem :) T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only thing that the upgrading page doesn't cover yet because there hasn't been a new official release since I added it, is that you should also add the bigmap plugin to your world file if you copy your old world file over T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: My regular old aardwolf statmon won't go away after I disable the plugin, and although it doesn't appear in the list, the window still shows up, but is unmovable T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: rather, you should at least know that there is a new bigmap plugin T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that problem should be fixed in the new version T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: bigmap? that old fail one that showed the continent? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, but better T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: okay :) I'll try it out... tomorrow T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also I'm rather proud of bigmap in general. I think I invented the idea. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: whoops T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: I never really saw the point T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: but i'm a noob T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: How do I add the plugin/see if I need to? I do have the newest package, but updated it from an older one. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i've written an essay on the subject of the point T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how'd you invent bigmap if it came from Aardwolf first? T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well...an article T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: to add it, just hit control+shift+p, you can add from there T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Dokkar: I was one of the group of players who helped write the continent descriptions, so I had a lot of early exposure to the new (at the time) world map. I believe the addition of player visible coordinates and the bigmap noself option were my idea. I don't remember about the first incarnation of the bigmap command itself. T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suspect that was Lasher wanting people to see his creation T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but there's a rather large difference between the in-game bigmap command and this: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/Bigmap/index.html T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that eventually got ported by Nick to mushclient Lua, then got made kind of slow and crappy, and then I made it fast and awesome again T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: hehe, the ascii bigmap was the last bigmap i saw T3/r3/2011-06-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is my mini rant on why bigmap is important http://www.gaardian.com/page.php?issueid=26&articleid=210 T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think sheni died T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why does my mushclient have timestamps next to EVERYTHING in the main window? How can I turn that off? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you activate the timestamp plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's actually not a question. you must have activated the timestamp plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ahh yeah it seems I did... Thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: new problem. these seem to pop up a lot. "Timer function "spell_display_timer" not found or had a previous error" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Kinda forgot what I activated and deactivatedd. Thought it was a feature in the mushclient GUI T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: pastamant: how old is your download of bast's plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: its the one on the google site T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: from when? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: idk. let me check T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: today? yesterday? two months ago? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hey! It seems that I had to install the plugin (I DIDN'T have it on) and then uninstall it to really get rid of them. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: 2 days old. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: I really should upgrade to new aardwolf package thing. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: tomorrow :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Bob: weird T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I install Bast's plugins? There are alot of XML files and I can't figure out which ones to put... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dump 'em all into worlds/plugins T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: There must be a help file somwhere that I am missing T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: keep them in his folder T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: put the folder they come in inside worlds/plugins T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: alright, reinstalled all plugins. seems to have fixed the problem. now my groupmon is gone. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: new error message. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: "Something may be wrong with the group monitor plugin. Please disconnect and reconnect to the MUD to correct this problem." T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a gmcp handler error T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just disconnect and reconnnect T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yeah i did T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: works now T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's because certain information only gets sent when you log in T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Ah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: You should be an imm. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eh. maybe. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not convinced T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: K, Got the MUSH from the google code page, uploaded 2 days ago. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: hehe, one day. new question (I am such a noob) how do i turn of this {chan ch=tech} tag T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you disable the chat capture plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Darn it... I just closed mushclient and opened again, and the dreaded timestamps are back. I'm sure the plugin isn't there, I look the list over again T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tags channels off, then T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Pasta, type tag off T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: wait T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: cool T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: not tag off.... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: never blanket disable all tags T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's rarely the right thing to do T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The mush mapped doesnt work then T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: among other things T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Tags help plugins parse the input, right? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not so much anymore T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: {invmon}5,479900539,479486718,-1, can I turn this tag off in main window. Without upsetting anything else? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Bob: I believe I reported a bug with the timestamp plugin just recently. load the plugin. disable it. then remove it. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yeah, tag invmon off T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll fix that in the next snapshot T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: or something like that T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ^^ That's exactly what I did fiend, 3 times T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you saving? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: lol ish. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmmm T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Always press the save button T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: give me a minute and I'll try myself T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: thats what she said. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf client package does not use inv tags. something else you were using might T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Bob: channel tags are still needed for the chat capture plugin to be able to turn off main output echo T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: {affon}333,990, Can I turn this tag off? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: screw chat capture :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's related to a spellup plugin T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think that chat capture is rather important T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: eh. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Just like bigmap ;)? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: more so T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Idk. I think chat capture is alright. Maybe I'll add it somewhere in my screen T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: It makes sense T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: but its not absolutely necessary T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: but, then again, raw telnet is bare basics.... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: So, is there a way to get rid of the timestamps? Or is there a glitch in mushclient itself, because the plugin appears not to be there but the timestamps are ..... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on. i'm testing now T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: saving after making them go away means they don't come back after restarting mushclient for me T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: anybod there? using mush? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: is there a way to restart the mapper? or do i have to restart mush? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: mapper purgedata i think T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: woah woah woah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: or something..... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "restart" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and tell why you want to restart it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: well its just frozen up T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you get an error message? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: you could restart the plugin T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: im in fantasy field but its still displaying castle reinhold T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: no message nope T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you get when you type checkversion? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: lol. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: never had issue with it before i reckon im gonna restart mush and see if mapper works T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: brb T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as you like T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: hmm nope still in reinhold :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you get when you type checkversion? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: Sorry Diesalot, I don't understand you. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you willing to download a newer edition of the client package? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: yeh ill download it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: was there a recent update... i havent been on for about a week T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are always updates T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but there hasn't been a new official release yet T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: i think the problem isnt my mush or mapper T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: when i try to launch firefox i get... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: failed to execute child process "firefox" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: pshhhhh. firefox < chrome T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: either way. if you decide to update to the development snapshot, use the link I just gave you and follow the Upgrading instructions on http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: input/output error T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: given that error you might reboot your computer T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: yep about to try that brb T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: yep is working now T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: weird shit T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: got SQL errors in google chrome that was alrdy open before the shiz hit the fan T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know how to display my current bprompt raw (i.e. still as %h, etc) I want to add a carriage retutrn, but it only accepts replace, not append T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type 'config' T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hooray! Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: is there a reason mush wont let me spam T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: i hold enter for like half a second and the input bar clears itself T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try enter for repeated commands T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: not sure how to explain it any other way T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "spam" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: oh my input auto repeats itself T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because spam is bad T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: not in all cases T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: explain T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It should only allow one input per enter T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: for example, i have 30 things in my inventory i want to 'heal curse' T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not per-keyboard event T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: so i just hold enter down T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: or when im gain reconverting i hold enter down as well T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadfael Tech: just copy and paste it a bunch of times. or use the up arrow and enter T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: is there a way to make it so mush wont clear the input bar when i hold enter T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: obviously there are work arounds T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadfael Tech: don't know about that I'm afraid. never tried. I'm kind of glad it doesn't T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cadfael Tech: but that's just me =) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would hope not - spam like that is hell on a server - what if you leant a book on it or something O/o T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you should install this plugin http://www.mushclient.com/plugins/Repeat_Command.xml T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it would let you do #30 heal curse T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: so there is no way to change that T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have disabled spam protection by default T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: er, enabled T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: where can i disable that T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Alt+0 T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: thank you T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: my spam prevention checkbox isnt checked T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you're not using my world file. oh well. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fiendish if you're talking about the 'send other command' toggle, the package I dl'd yesterday is off by default T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I actually don't have my input bar cleared out if I hold down enter T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: i dont even know what that means T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't worry about it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: do you auto repeat commands T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: hmm, so no idea on why my input gets cleared when i hold enter down? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: none at all T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try a post on the mushclient forums T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: okay, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: still, you might want to check out hte plugin link I posted T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so that you don't have to lean on enter T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: i think plugins slow me down, zmud seemed much faster T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: or maybe im just paranoid i dont know T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you're paranoid T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: probably T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I mean... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: plugins can slow you down T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think that some of Bast's plugins might slow things down. but if you just use the aardwolf client package included plugins, you shouldn't notice any speed difference at all vs not having any plugins loaded T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I honestly can't vouch for very slow computers T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: well, i feel like it sped up when i disabled most of the plugins that came with the aardwolf package T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know what version you're using T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: try runnin your plugins while playing a a graphical game T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: you will see big lag T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: neither do i T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it recent? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. you again T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: i downloaded it within a couple weeks T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I keep forgetting about you T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: guess i just got one of those personalities :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: while playing a graphical game? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: anyways, thanks for the help im going to look at the forums and see if anyone else has had any similar issues T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what, you mean aardwolf and another game at the same time? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't suppose there's a way to upload a txt file into Notes, is there? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Maybe through gxp? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Put it on something like pastepin and post the link. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nah... clan application T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: just format it in notepad and copy and paste each line. You're not writing a book. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not a huge problem for one note, I just thought there might already be a system, that's all T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: OK. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Sorry for causing a stir, gentlemen. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: The AI would act like a player for all intents. I want it to walk around and kill things, buy things, sell things, and be a good citizen. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: illegal T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not legal here T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: or any mud I've ever seen T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Why isn't it? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because the rules say it isn't T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Ohh. I see. Hm. Darn. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: Most MUDs don't want to see a character advancing without a moderate amount of interaction from a human T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This(and all muds) is a game for people, not an arena for computers T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: scripts that gain anything tangible automatically are illegal T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can run a chatbot on the side, but that's about it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Not even human-computer interaction? I want to connect it to a chatbot basically and make it game-specific. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: How could I run a chatbot on the side? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Capture the mud output T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: other program/script attacked to mud client process T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a technical challenge for you to figure out T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: attached even T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Right now I have a little python program that connects to the MUD. It compares a series of regex patterns to the MUD output and sends a response based on the input T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: For example, all I had to do was tell Toborn 123say I am a bot T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: The bot received Quigley tells you '123say I am a bot' which fits the pattern Someone tells you '123' T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: I am asking: How is it appropriate to be a chatbot? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Never level ever at all for any reason? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You don't a chatbot T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: chat bots chat. they don't execute any commands. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You a chatbot T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Player plays, chatbot chats T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: So I play the game while the chatbot does all my talking? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can do that if you want T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Hmmm... I really want it to do things on its own though. Interesting. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: yeah, I mean you certainly could make a chatbot that wouldn't allow you to play while it chatted .. but that wouldn't be my approach. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what you want is illegal T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I would mute anyone talking to me if I discovered they used a chat bot T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: OK. What if it played on its own and chatted on its own but I never played, just monitored? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There are plenty of MUDs where botting is not illegal, by the way. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: illegal T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Cizra: Like what? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Quigley, which part of "help botting" is not clear? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: Fiendish, it just hardly seems bad to me. that's all. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: rules are rules T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ask imm... if they say its fine its fine if not then no T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whether you find the rule justified doesn't change the fact that it's a rule T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's like littering and saying you think it's okay to litter, so it's not illegal? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: what if it's pretty or expensive litter? Hmm. Well, I'll go away anyhow. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quigley Tech: I'll logout Toborn and that'll be the last you'll see of him. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Heh... Started Scripting Languages at uni today T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what languages, you ask? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: python, perl, appleScript, awk, PHP, javascript, and ruby T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: didn't, actually T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lua is nowhere to be seen... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I love applescript T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Pretty good list there. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even though it's about completely useless these days because of automator T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can it run on iOS for devices? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: couldn't say T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Probably something I should whack onn the repo suggestions, but I'll sound it out here - Fiendish would it be a quick task to have the 'our room' border flash on a macro or some other keypress? Trying to find it in areas like gathering horde is somtimes problematic, esp. with some of the textures (no one colour will always contrast)? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh wow spelling :-( T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your room is always in the middle surrounded by pink :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yup - I changed to blue, as I was having trouble picking out the pink from the red of pk rooms - could be just my eyes though T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only as blue, any water textured areas give me the same issue T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmmm T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: and textures turned off looks like blegh... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you could maybe replace the water texture image with a darker version T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, I'll look into that - I remember seeing info on that in the repo - no go on a location ping though? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for changing the area texture? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: worlds/plugins/images T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, i'd be interested to know if there's a simple way to make stuff flash :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: straight up file switch I suppose? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Even an rts style ping, with circles moving into or away from your location could do it. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: making things flash would require changing the color, doing a repaint, changing the color back, and doing a repaint, etc T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's an interesting idea T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and having to make a delay thing so it doesn't lag everything else? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could be costly on slower machines I suppose - can you do a partial repaint in MUSH? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well it would only happen on an alias or macro or something T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sadly no T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i was thinking of having group members flash if their hp dropped below a certain level, but i settled for just painting the box red :/ T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah, I incorporated a bunch of stuff into the latest version of the official plugin. I think androg asked for it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the group monitor T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to make it easier for people to stay up to date T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: heh, i guess he got tired of using my hackish methods :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: = T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a number overlay, flat gauge option, hp thresholds, and system for hiding players T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i prefer typing in a player's name compared to clicking their name to disable though T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in big groups it takes a while to find their names T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can always add an alias for that T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, so the hard-to-see location can be somewhat alleviated by just zooming the map right in - I assume it will always centre on the current room? Less convenient, but far easier to code (i.e. nothing) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: anyone good with triggers in mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I vote fiendish? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: or just shoot T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i'd ask the question T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is your question? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: am trying to send 'open door' whenever game outputs the door is closed T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: not being able to make it work T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Doors being closed have different messages - esp. if you have passdoor T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That does not always work due to locked doors. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: no normal door T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i'd probbaly use the mapper to do that for you T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use a 'doors' alias - open n T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Plus cexits for the really annoying ones T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest oa with open north and blah blah. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: you'd also need to track the direction of last movement, not all doors respond to keyword door T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sorry, doors does n,s,w,e,u,d T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the messy way i'd do it is to add the trigger line as The * is closed.* and then open n;open s;and blah blah blah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i use a keypad button for myself currently T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: that adds so much command lag it's almost faster to type it :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yeah, mine is 5 :-) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: hmm yeah but the thing is the trigger text isnt workign at all T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is your trigger text T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: just wanna figure out how triggers worj so can use for other stuff too T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: "The * is closed.*" doesn't work? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: in the mush clinet trigger text = "door is closed" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Start out matching an exact phrase you know works, then generalise it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: no, try The * is closed.* T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mushclient triggers assume it's a complete line T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: then you could try "open %1" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you're going to match everything AFTER a defined statement, there is no need to add a * at the end. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need to add * before and after if it's not T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Etzli is correct. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Unless it's the case of what Redryn said. :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: okay, so the Trigger is "The * is closed." and the Send could be "open %1" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: sorry dced T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: tech -h then T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: but then you got to worry about rooms with multiple doors :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: okay will foloow the link , I tried everythign sugested doesnt seem to work T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the output you get when you walk into a closed door? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: The door is closed. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: and it seems only the noun changes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest a trigger that opens all directions for starters. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: However, an alias would be better. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the solution I listed earlier works, but I haven't tried it with multiple doors T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have oa for all directions, oe for open east, and so on personally. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: "open pile of boulders" heh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: ok it works if u have the direction right T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: use open %1 in send T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: so i guss ill put an alias which open all directions T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: that doesn't use any directions T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: okay, %1 fails with multiple doors T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: ok my dumb work around is on * is closed , I try opening all directions 1 by 1 T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: and then you got places like the primate house where it says the door is close, but the doors don't actually respond to door :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: will work on a general basis at least T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: make sure the trigger is written as "The * is closed." then "open %1" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: or have the send as "open n;open s;open e;open w;open u;open d" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: hmm mult command send doesnt seem to work T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: in mushclient, you can key those seperately in multiple lines T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Forgot I lost my see invis on remort :-P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drona Tech: ah okay that did the trick T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fiendish, I'd prefer a double-click for bring-to-front if it had to be done. Maybe double-right for stb? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: interesting suggestion T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I accidentally click on things too often to want my windows popping up everywhere :-) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Question for MUSHclient (particularly Fiendish, since he's the MUSH guru...) -- Can you match database keys on a trigger pattern like you can in zMUD/CMUD? For instance, if I have a database variable called "Stuff", I can trigger off that by #TRIGGER {{%%dbkeys(tuff)}} in CMUD. Moreover, can I trigger off variables in general? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes at least to the second T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though you'd have to search the forums for how to do it, because I forget T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not sure what you're doing with a database as a variable T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'm attempting to learn scripting in MUSH to expand my knowledge, and I prefer one collective database of 100 keys instead of 100 individual triggers. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm sure it's possible to do what you want. see if a quick search of the scripting forums doesn't turn up anything T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: For instance, with mob subs, I sub their descriptions with keywords, so I'll usually trigger on the area name, and do something like #TRIGGER {(%%dbkeys(@The_Tree_of_Life_DB))} {#SUB {%db(@The_Tree_of_Life_DB, %1)} T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'll take a look through the forums then. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe something like this? http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=8892&page=1 T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That would probably do it. Thanks. :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm just not sure that an actual database is what you really want here T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, looking over the link you gave me made me realise it's close, but not 100%. It's referred to as a database variable because you do have key=value pairs within the variable itself. So in my variable of Stuff, I have a key of "A snake slithers here." and a value of "snake" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's much like tables in lua. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You can reference the key by doing %db(@Stuff, "A snake slithers here.") T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: idk the language myself, but I'd usually go with a hashmap for that sort of thing, if that helps T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i dunno if it helps, but for me i use roomchars to enable a general capture all trigger, and compare the lines to a database T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Vakieh: That's why I'm coming here. I know nothing of how MUSH scripting works, but I'm attempting to learn it. :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't MUSH scripts just run on lua? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ie a *, if %1== (blahblahtablelookup) then .... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lua is only part of scripting T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need to know the mushclient api T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, a subset of lua, then? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or as libraries? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: think of it like libraries T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: special functions that only mushclient understands T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Vakieh: CMUD scripting can run on lua, too. In fact, my Melvin script has a strong foundation in lua. :P But you still need to know zscript to really work with it. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I miss my pointer arithmetic already :-) moving from app programming to scripting is going to be a challenge... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Turie is right, though. if you really want, you can set up another sqlite database like the gmcp mapper uses T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that won't help you with trigger matching T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: whatever you do with the database, you'd have to set up a normal list variable for the trigger pattern T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like in that forum post I linked T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmmm... actually, I think I might know how to do it... I can set the "keys" in one variable, and when it matches, I can call up a table to display the value off that table. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that would work T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Don't know why I didn't think of that before. Heh. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: remember that even though client variables are string/int/bool, you can serialize any arbitrary data to a string T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then deserialize it later T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If I set a lua variable in MUSH, does it save across opening and closing of MUSH if not local? In CMUD, the lua variable is cleared upon exiting (I believe), so just checking to see if it saves or not. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need to use SetVariable to store for later and then GetVariable to retrieve T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see any of my plugins. all of them do a series of GetVariables at load, and then SetVariable inside OnPluginSaveState T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ah, okay. Will look into that then. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: outside of a plugin, SetVariable will create a client variable T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that gets stored on save T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and will be visible in the variables screen T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plugins are walled off from the global state, so calling it inside a plugin will not put them into the variables screen T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: otherwise, the behavior is the same. lua variables do not get saved T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: searchable online version of the mushclient help is available at http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use it because WINE doesn't always work well with the windows help program T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli thanks Ol' Dirty Fiendish heartily. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Fiendish online, or around? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nice :p Got the MUSH from the google code page. What do you recomend for a spellup script, also looking for a CP/Quest script? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use bast's miniwindow spellup T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just type 'spellup' periodically. What more do you need it to do? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast also has cp/quest scripts T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nice, how many plugins do you need to add for the spellup mini window to work, 2? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hm T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe 3? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks, ill work on it, might have to pester ya again :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you just load miniwin_spellup though and maybe it loads the other? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ahh nice, ill try that 1st. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, all my plugins load any dependencies they need, so just load the one you want to use T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: slick T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: bast_spellup, is the file I need to load for the mini window spellup script? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: miniwin_spellup T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Is it normal, when I load the miniwin-spellup to get messages about, unable to create save state etc.... etc... got about 5+ of the messages/error T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Seems to be the norm. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not normal for me T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, but you know what you're doing. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: post the entire message T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you install to some weird freaky directory, or are you just using My Documents or Desktop? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Do I only have to enable the 1 spellup, miniwin-spellup? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: tried to cut and paste....wouldnt let me. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you running win7/vista and have your mushclient on program files? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Running win 7, let me check where MUSH is at. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Got it on, Users > Dan > Desktop T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That should be ok then T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: install it into c:\games, sometimes mushclient doesn't like spaces in the paths T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just move it to c:\games, you don't have to reinstall T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I haven't had a problem running it from the desktop T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: me either, but spaces in paths were the dumbest thing ever invented T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't see any spaces in that path T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: k T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: win7 doesn't put it under Documents and Settings/Users? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Dunno, I don't use Win7. The path I saw started with Users.. Might have had a Documents and Settings in front, but that wasn't mentioned :/ T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: anyway, the error means that the state file is trying to be saved in a directory you don't have write permissions to T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ahh, will that create errors eventually? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: eventually T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: whats the my computer, called on Win 7... lol >< Trying to move the file. Just got Win7. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: it's still my computer :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Heh, tks :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: K, put a fresh copy in C:Games, deleted old :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Did the trick, no save state errors T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Is the new Mini_Win spellup, work just like the old version in the Portable.bast ? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: or is there a file that explains how to use it? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at my website or do bsp help T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks Bast. sadd underwater, sremove underwater, pause, resume, is the just of it? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the gist yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: typed, sadd underwater, That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsp sadd T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ahh thanks bsp before everything :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Since I got your attention atm.... Which file do I load to use the Quest/CP/GQ/Double/3 Moon status window? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: miniwin_events for quest/cp/gq, miniwin_double for double, miniwin_moons for moons T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: great, thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: After adding, miniwin_events.xml, do I need to enable it, or its auto? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: everything is auto T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Should it have opened a new mini window? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: found it, was hiding :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: The moons, and double, will show in the same Events Mini window? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, they are seperate windows T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: hmm damn, must be hiding behind another window then. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the double will only show when double is active T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ahh nice, how about the moons? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the moons window will not show until you have seen all 3 moons rise/fall T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I see, thanks. Appreciate it. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Is there a command to see all spells added to the bsp, the old spellup script had a window that listed them? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: click around on the window, there are tons of hotspots to show info T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nice, really cool. Thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Seems Im just about set, anyother plugins you recomend as must have :p ? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can track a bunch of stuff and see stats if you use miniwin_stats and StatDB T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nice, 1 last question, then I will lay off. I like to macro F1, atm when I use it, it uses the macro but at the same time tries to bring up a help file. Anyway to disable or stop the helpfile? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: File -> Global Preferences -> General -> check F1,F6 are macros T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks, you da man ^^ T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Do I understand this right, the new mini_win spellup script, you can leave all your spellups added through morts, and it will only cast the ones that have been pracd? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: correct T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Really nice, save me a good 10 mins per mort :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: be careful with the spellup though Sheni T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: some of the spells that are on the list break the spellup and it stops working T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which ones? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: don't remember which.. nothing I should be casting normally so I removed it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Only ones I've had problems with are skills not spells, and I think that was being fixed for the latest version T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: could be skills and not spells.. *nod lytebane T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: skills are hard because there is no consistant way to enable a skill, so they spellup plugin tries to use the first word of the skill, which doesn't work for some skills T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It'd be nice if you could just do something like 'skill ' T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: it possible to copy the mushclient database over as a file and install it in a different mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the use of a map database is based on the name of the world file T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if the worlds are named the same, then the map database will work the same T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Something Im missing, added about 35 spellups to the BSP, bsp resumed, it casted 4 or 5, then just stopped with most still pending? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a waiting spell in your miniwindow? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nod, globe of invul T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have antimagic shell already on? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your prompt end in %c? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nope T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: and Nope T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: err I dont know about the prompt, how to change or check it. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins load fix" then wait a sec and "fix prompt" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's a handy feature :-) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes it is T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: K, Aded plugin..... fix.xml, now just type 'fix prompt' ? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I need to add "fix config" to make people's config match mine ;) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that'd be a nasty surprise :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think the problem with skills was a different problem, I remember briefly discussing it a while back, was related to spellups stalling when 'sneak' and some others failed due to entering combat while it tried to trigger, only happened fairly rarely. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Sheni: yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: working better now, only other problem so far.. is pass without trace... You belch and pass out. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sending 'pass', should be sending 'trace' T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: again, it is a skill and the first word of the skill doesn't work, so you can't use that skill with the spelluip plugin T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Can you set a mud alias "pass" to override the social? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Np, was doing it manually with the old script to. Working great. thanks again, thanks fiendish too ^^ T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, let me see if it uses Execute compared to Send T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't mean a mush alias, I mean type into the mud: alias pass trace T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that would probably work T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: double T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Is the Inv Mon tags needed? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, for broadcast_kills which keeps track of which weapons you are using T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: If your not using it, or am I using it with Spellup, cp, double, moons scripts only? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using statdb or miniwin_stats? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Have stats in a mini window, I beleive from the MUSH client. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you actually seeing the invmon tags? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ill live with it, can change some stuff around, so I dont get spammed by it to much. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: on my main screen I get, Invitem 5677788 etc..., and Invmon 45645677 -1 -1 etc... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you can turn them off, nothing is catching them T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: k, syntax? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: 1 more noobie question... Cant find the miniwin T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: min T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which one? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: minwin_double T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: sry new keyboard. It was working perfect, then I restarted the client, and it didnt pop up, or possibly hiding but I checked all over. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type: "mdbl double toggle" next time there is double T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: cool, thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: man i've got some sweet sound triggers, how to convert those into a package and share with community? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask winklewinkle :-) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a plugin wizard right in mush that turns any collection of trigs/aliases/etc into plugins T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: right now it's only mob death and level up, thinking of what else will work well. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: or seriously? sweet T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the most part, though, people have such vast different tastes in sounds that IMO it's not worth it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: MUSH/Lua question. I have an alias that adds information to a variable. The parameters can be any number, so how would I force MUSH (or lua) to recognize the different parameters and add them accordingly? For instance, "asdf a b c d e f" should add a, b, c, d, e, and f to a variable. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's was more special-purpose in that it was meant to give audible cues for blind players T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: Yeah you're right. I would wait until it was finished and post a video and see what people thought. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Heh. I'm always interested in sound packages, to be honest. Makes things fun when in battle and you hear the 'chnk' of metal on armor. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're all being added to a single variable? Don't really see why you'd need to do anything special T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: abe it might be just so someone does not have to recreate everything just find a soundbyte they like and rename it, i use sounds but i keep my volume off on my labtop because i dont like to interrupt my tv time T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, no reason to recreate the dsounds...but there are sound bites available everywhere already T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Abe, it's to make a string list variable, so you'd have a|b|c|d|e|f, but not sure how to go about that. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: (in lua) match asdf *, then use utils.split("%1") and a for loop with ipairs and concatenate them together with .. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Gesundheit T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to just change it to be a|b|c, can do a string replace for space to | T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ah, thanks, Bast. And damn it, didn't think of that, Abe. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: string.gsub(%0," ", "|"), right? :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also use things like wildcard[] to get counts and use that T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Got the minwindow double to come back on last double, disapeared and didnt come back on this one. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: Haha man this is sweet. Gotta find some more sound files. I got *is slain*, *You raise a level!*, *misses*, *Your stab*..hmm now i need more weapon sounds... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: that would irritate me T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: Yeah I bet haha. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: I miss a lot :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: Maybe more world events. I just hate how it's so quiet, can't listen to music 24/7. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: a quest notification or a double exp sound would be nice T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: The plugin wizard won't add the sound files too right? They will need to be seperate download? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (yes, they must be a separate download, or at least zipped in) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: Alright sweet. I love this game and I haven't even played past level 20 really. Just messing around with the windows and adding plugins and sounds is so fun. The minimaps, hp/mp/move/tnl bars and inventory windows make it so much more than the usual. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyway to turn up the volume of an audio file trigger used by MUSH? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Turn up your speakers? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: I read somewhere it's not possible. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nod, guess they just arent that loud. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Maybe I can download loud audio files? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ones that were recorded louder or w/e T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Sheni: Modify the file with Audacity. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Change the volume of the sound file itself, and re-save it. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Cool Ill try that. Thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger goes: "No Problem!" T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone familiar with linux's aplay? I'd like to play a sound in the background, but doing 'aplay &' doesn't actually play, there's no sounds, and when i don't include the & it pauses the running program until complete. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this looks really interesting. http://luajit.org/ext_ffi.html T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think I'm going to use it for something T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ralyn T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: whats the way to enable a timer inside of a script T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: client? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #T+ name trigger T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: inside of a plugin.. really T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: if i have a dinky tv that only has volume / channel buttons, and the universal remote it has doesn't have a closed captioning button. And the the tv menu i can access when hitting "menu" on the remote doesn't show closed captioning...is there still a way of getting the CC's or do i have to get a new universal remote? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: DoAfter() or DoAfterSpecial() T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: basically want to enable a timer while a im fighting and turn it off when im not T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: so i dont have to keep spaming my macro T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's illegal if you're doing what i think T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: whats illegal about it? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If you want it to automatically spam an attack, it's illegal T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: kalsch - if you have a cable box, you can turn them on with that T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not hard to spam attacks manually T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ok so if i just leave a timer on the whole time thats legal since its part of the mush client features? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: this particular tv doesn't have a cable box. Jus tplugged straight into the cable jack T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it blows my mind every time when i spam exact amount of attacks needed on a bunch of mobs T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Attacking automatically is illegal, regardless T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's called a bot, and it's not allowed. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it's possible that your TV doesn't have CC T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: closest you can do is macro it.. so you only have to hit 1 key T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ok whatever you say explain to me the difference then between a normal timer and turning on off and on autoamtically? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well i've had other remotes on this tv before that have a cc button, and it brings up the cc when i use it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: one doesn't involve attacking mobs T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm telling you, a timer to attack is illegal, because it's not /you/ doing it T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if anyone was wanting to write a battle spell-casting trigger.. they might want to look into negative lookahead regex T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a clickable link would probably be closer than a macro. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: its not initiating an attack its just casting a spell T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: STILL ILLEGAL T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: lame T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I don't think he's talking about initiating combat, but rather, using a timer that, while he's in combat, will execute an attack. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I think you need a different remote then that can access the CC T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What part of automatically doing attacks is illegal, is so hard to understand? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is it possible to use the Internet connection of another computer via SSH to update packages on your own? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if it does damage, you can't do it via trigger, ever. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: so what am i allowe to use timers for T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless you train combat spells on yourself :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: casting spells on yourself T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: keeping yourself online T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: keeping track of spell durations T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: remind yourself of quest times and stuff T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i gotta find a new mud, these rules are garbage T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn waves goodbye to Veck. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir waves goodbye to Veck. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: lets make everyone keep tapping the same button over and over again because thats fun T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: most games have rules just like ours or even more stringent. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: "I can't bot, i'm going to leave" is your philosophy? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: lets make people play the game to get stronger... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: instead of sleeping while your character buffs up T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: your a tool, sorry i even ask i keep forgetting everyone is stuck up pricks on this mud T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: the exit is quit from here :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Heh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm far from a stuck up prick on this matter. I was nuked for botting, you should listen to me. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Trurien, what? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I tech Fiendish: I wtech My pipes keenote T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: haha, changed your mind about what to say a few times? :D T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Trurien: Aaaaaa...... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So much for write failed: broken pipe. Is that a symptom of a poor connection, or is screen poorly set up? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: write failed broken pipe means the connection dropped T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Some difficulties with SSH. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Uh huh. Anyhow, I've found out from lsof -i that the package upgrading takes place over http. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not sure yet what the question is T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I'm thinking the way to go is to forward port 80 from the host with Internet access to port 80 on my locally-connected computer. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I want to download a few packages using apt-get. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: over ssh? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But my current computer has no Internet access... I'm using local SSH to another box with Internet. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Easy enough T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ssh -p 80 && sudo apt-get install | ssh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: err T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: change that last ssh to scp T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Then you'd go back to the main computer, and 'mv' the files to a directory in your $PATH var, such as /usr/bin or /usr/local, or w/e T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd have to open port 80 for SSH on that other host though? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Thought you said you were trying to go via 80? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If not, just remove '-p 80' T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fiddling with the SSHd settings isn't a problem, but I was hoping to do something with ssh -D or so. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone have a working trigger line for a disarm trigger for MUSH? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Which disarm? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Aard weapon, or non-aard? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Aard, always Axe T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: * DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon! T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: space between that star and DISARMS? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: np T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger slaps Doc Holliday. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: YOu changed your name back, you can't steal credit anymore :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: bleh T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: any recommendations on free html/web editors? Looking for impressions moreso than a google list. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Personally, I go for notepad as my editor. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: But if you're looking for something a little more advanced... Hmm. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Notepad++ is what I use. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Notepad++ does xml files too. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Testing T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: I guess this is a different channel? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: OK, finally figured that out. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Typing 'channels' will show you a list of different channels you have access to. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: All channels can be accessed by using their channel name. :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: I recommend Scintilla/SciTE (http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/) as an editor. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: You folks using Linux systems? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Some are, some aren't. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: I can squint at you but I can not look at you? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Remote socials. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: They can be done to anyone who has them on, anywhere. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: has there been an image of Andolor done yet? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: How do i find my private ip? IE, 196.blah.blah.blah instead of my local ip such as 10.0.0.2? If i use ifconfig, i only get the local T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: On a linux machine, btw T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Try a tracert command? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Go to whatismyip.org. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's not my private ip T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's just my current dynamic ip T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Trace to something like Microsoft. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger . o O ( Which changes too damn often ) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Or log into your modem, usually something like http://192.168.1.1/ into your browser command line. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: http://ipinfo.info/index.php T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Oh, you're on linux, so you can't use the ipinfo.exe file there. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have wine, but it's not fool-proof T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Then try it to see if it works? :p T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: list T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: all T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Yikes. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: There a command to list all on a channel? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Nope. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: anyone got any idea how I can find my documents and such after a virus took over my computer? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you regained control of it? Might try an undelete program - Assuming you don't have backups :) T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Earthly Tech: tried searching for the files using search? Tried the recycle bin? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: I had system restore on, it is now off :/ T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: System Restore != Backuping files, but Earthly has the better suggestion to try first. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Possible that the settings pointing to my docs just got corrupted and they are still there. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: lol thanks, they're there. Now I need to figure out how to get back there. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go Earthly!!! Mendaloth cheers him on. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yet again, Dashiell wuv Earthly. Aww, how coot. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: any idea how I reset the pointers to point to the proper folders? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well under XP you right click on a my documents folder and change the target there, should say do you want to copy current files say no. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: ahhhhh, lol, the attributes were set to "hidden, read-only". T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: is there a way to remove the alias/variable/trigger etc icons from zmud 7.21 window? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: and "show hidden and system files" was unchecked. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: I got it all back, thanks everyone. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Sim Card went through the wash... chances it will still work when dry? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What are your impressions of Windows 8? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is windows vista unable to handle zipfiles? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 7zip T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Downloaded mushclient zipfile and this computer tries to open it in notepad T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Crappy work computer though T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It should be able to handle it, but use 7Zip, it's honestly a better program to use for zip files. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or try right-clicking and seeing if there's an 'extract files' option. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No extract option T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Open with? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Choose winrar, or whatever the comp has avail? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'll try.... vista is bloody confusing T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mushclient zip includes an unzip program. good luck! T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish giggles. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Which came first, the unzipper, or the zipper? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zip and unzip are the same, really T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: There a private thought channel to communicate through? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: echo T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Can a Sim Card survive the washing machine? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: if a cellphone can, I would think there is a good chance it can too. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Cool, thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I've left my thumbdrive in my pants a ton of times and it's survived the washer and dryer T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Yeah, Cheez. I have one that's over 15 years old. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Yo Fiendish, got a quick mapper question. When I click on a room it says walking to etc.... then moves me there... can you change it to runto? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: One of the first 128 MB give-aways from some company. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Mine's a little 4 gigger :P T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: I bought a 8G last year. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Maybe it's actually 16G. It was $20 at Wal-Mart, but the price went up sense that time. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: microcenter.com :) ftw T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It uses run, which is runto. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: There anyone here that listens for suggestions? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Or a way to offer suggestions to those that call themselves the Creator? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Implementor of Aardwolf? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Well, if he/she was here and wanted to talk, I'm sure he/she knows how to do it. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tawleriji: You can send a personal note on the personal board to Imm. That will send it to the staff and creator. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Turie Thankyou. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Turie: Thank you. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: LOL T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: anyone happen to have a good inventory script for cmud they wouldn't mind sharing hehe T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Akuri... T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what would your inventory script do? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tawleriji, suggestions about what? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Are there any resources dealing specifically with migrating from cmud/zmud to mush? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I.e. that address the cmud's equivalent functions in mush? T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: far as I know it's just asking on the mushforums T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm looking at the mushclient documentation and scripting stuff, but it generally makes no sense whatsoever. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a number of things are just going to require familiarity with the mushclient way of doing things T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's more from your familiarity with zscript. Familiarity with something makes things harder when they really aren't. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have all of 3 hours of familiarity with mush. I just downloaded it today. It looks really impressive, but I need to figure out how to write my own stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if anyone was wondering what bigmap would look like for the entire planet, here's my rendition: http://symphaena.com/SharedFiles/Andolor.bmp T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, "planet" might be a generous word :) "plane of existence" is closer :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: help andolor says otherwise, Ana T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sure, but if it is a planet, it doesn't fall under the category of spheroid oblate, more like a cube with rounded corners :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yet it orbits, just as the help file says. :p T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, we know the moons orbit, there is no context to tell that Aardwolf orbits. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Obviously you didn't read the help file, then... "Andolor orbits a single sun,..." T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: help andolor has at least 2 inferences to suggest it's an orbiting spheroid T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: and the moons seem to violate conservation of angular momentum :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so does Pluto, but it isn't a planet.... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: Pluto is a planet, hush! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lies lies lies lies Pluto is still a planet to meeeeeee T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: planetoid T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Actually, Pluto is considered a dwarf planet. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: my work here is done. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You lose. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: go away, infidel! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: A planet full of dwarves? Really? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: spellup T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: dwarven women, just like the movie :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tawleriji Tech: Oops T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yay, Duke Nukem Forever demo is out T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj downloads T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Are there any sample mushclient/lua triggers/scripts online? Something I can take apart and figure out that way? Or a plain English guide that isn't geared towards coders? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Not really T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Then how the hell do you learn? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I learned by just reading through the forum and the scripts people posted. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Lua for non coders... sounds strange... :/ T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I need something to work off of. I can't just do it from scratch. I don't even know where to begin. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Honestly, if you want to 'begin', go to lua-users.org T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can't even get 'colournote' to work. Yeesh. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Am just getting frustrated with it, because this crap is utterly trivial in cmud, I can do it in my sleep T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm just sick of zugg and his crap T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ColourNote(message, color) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's actually ColourNote(foreground, background, color) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: er, message, not color. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: s/color/msg T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Ebullient Etzli. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: sadly I've not gotten around to trying mushclient yet or I'd try to help T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: you can do a 2 argument form though, too T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Defaults bg to black T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj runs zmud 7.21 in a windows xp virtual machine! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger runs tt++ on Arch. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos runs away from Tech Bloke Danj in utter terror and horror! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No luck, just an error message T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Apparently not, Cheezburger. I just tried it and it wants three values. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh yeah? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What error message are you getting? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hmm, thought it used to T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli shrugs in response to FootLong Cheezburger's question. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Starling: add the script prefix T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: She is. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ie, #, so you can do it from the command line T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I did T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: iirc it's / by default T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's actually nothing by default. You have to put it in yourself. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: oh, then do #ColourNote('black', 'white', "Message from starling") T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's exactly what she's been doing. :P Been going over this with her a few minutes now. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: have to quote non integer/boolean values T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Okay, need single quotes for the color names. Can I specify color as a number, i.e. the ansi number? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i believe you can do hex colors T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Shouldn't need single quotes. Double quotes worked for me. :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: single or double T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: just needs to be quoted for string values T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ' and " are synonymous in lua T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And yeah, you can do hex values. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I think you can also do rgb values T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: /ColourNote("#FFFFFF", "#000000", "Testing") showed up properly. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ie Color(10%, 20%, 80%) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How would I change colors multiple times in the same line? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ColorTell T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: E.g. if I have the word 'test' three times, how would I make them all different colors? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Jhav. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ColourTell("white", "black", "test", "white", "lime", "test", "black", "yellow", "test") T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Did that work, star? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I believe you can also add \n in the message part if you want a newline. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Didn't do a thing T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Any errors? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't know. The client seems to be lagging badly. It finally did display them, but it took a good few seconds. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Strange. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Were they at least in the right colors? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Check to make sure you have the screen scrolled all the way down. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: This isn't going to work, alas Lua is beyond me. Going to just stick with zugg. Thanks for your time. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The learning curve isn't so steep once you get going. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If it says "More" in the status bar, then you need to scroll the screen down. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcgregah Gregor Tech: Anyone know if bit-torrents count as data transfer where your ISP is concerned? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: usually T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markyboy Tech: Yh, i think it does T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Of course. Some block them altogether. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They will often be choked, i.e. slower speeds T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mcgregah Gregor nods. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcgregah Gregor Tech: Alright, thanks guys T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: plugins do not store variables over sessions, right? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they can do T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but i t has to be coded into the plugin T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: how do I store variables over sessions? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hold on T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: look in the plugin aard_statmon_gmcp.xml T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there is a function OnPluginSaveState () T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ALSO you need to set save_state="y" in the xml header T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: so I copy the whole function over? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to load the variables you call them when declaring them T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: local spellupDebug = tonumber(GetVariable("SpellupDebug")) or 0 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. that function is an event function... you can ignore the line about windows.. but you want to look at the lines that say SetVariable in the event function T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to make it save YOUR variables T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that help at all? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: heh sorry winkle looking through it T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: just reached hom T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: e T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: anyone using midpssh client? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: is there any way to check state (fighting etc) inside a trigger? Easy example: trigger to cast mind over body when I'm hungry and not fighting T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: GMCP can tell you your state. I think it's in statmon, too T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: yeah, but do I have to write a script for it or can it be done inside a trigger (mushclient) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you don't want to use gmcp, you can probably trigger on statmon, and just store a variable that has your state T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and then whenever you want to look it up in a trigger, you can do so T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: hmm.. ok, thats an idea .. will try .. thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you should be able to access the gmcp value from inside a normal trigger T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in the same way that you access it from a plugin T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I *think* T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: could you give an example on how or point me to some doc? no google luck today T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look at the OnPluginBroadcast section of any of the gmcp plugins included in the aardwolf mushclient package T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your trigger won't be able to use onpluginbroadcast, since that's only available inside of plugins, but the bit inside where you use CallPlugin ought to work T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: On Mushclient, Im trying to set it up so when someone scries me and i get "You sense that xxx is scrying you." it sends myself a tell that says "xxx is scrying you!" and right now i have the * in my trigger sentence but im not sure what to put in my response to make it so that persons name shows up. any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you really shouldn't use a tell for that T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: why not T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will interfere with catchtells and reply T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err...at least I think it might interfere with reply T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i have myself on ignore :) so no it doesnt T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not to mention that if someone scries you a few times in a row, you're probably going to get yourself automatically no-telled. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have yourself on ignore and you want to send yourself a tell? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: because it still shows up that i sent the tell, but it says im ignored T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why not use echo? or note? colournote? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or print? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: omfg who cares T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: whatever. your business to do however you want :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Do you know how i can do it? ill figure out where to put it later :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is your trigger pattern? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: what do you mean? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: You sense that * is scrying you ? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: what are you triggering on T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: yes :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you sending to world, execute, script, or something else? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: world T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then do tell crixus %1 has scried you T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: thank you :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why ignore yourself? or is that just to get around catchtells? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: because i like seeing that im wanted when i type who ignore. makes me feel...wanted T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't get it T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: it was a joke T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: [ 45 Vamp W+6] (Wanted) Crixus yumyum buttercup T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone know of a "gui" style application like the mush client for Aardwolf for linux? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: see help www, there are some mud clients at the bottom T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or just use mush under wine. Not tested myself, but fiendish says it works fine. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I can confirm that T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've run MUSHclient under Wine for, what, a month now T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it works fine for me. you just have to be slightly careful about which version you use if you have intel graphics T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because intel drivers blow T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I currently use wine 1.1.42 without any problems T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: wine 1.2.2 o'er here T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: newer intel graphics driver versions aren't properly compatible with wine versions later than 1.1.42, so you get all sorts of display problems T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but without intel graphics I haven't heard of any other problems T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is a comparison between wines 1.0.1/1.1.42 (top) and wines 1.2/1.3 (bottom) with intel graphics in Ubuntu 10.04 http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3923/comparison.png T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What do I need to be able to use the gmcpval() helper function in my plugins? It's telling me it's not defined. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (MUSHclient) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: callplugin T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ah, it was just firing before that. OK, lemme try that T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","room.info") <- example to grab room.info T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, had that line, just had the trigger that called gmcpval firing before it ever got any gcmp info T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hrm, still getting the error about gmcpval being undefined. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have this line, which I know is firing: T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you have the gmcp handler plugin loaded? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","char") T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that fires fine T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so what's the problem? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: later, I have a trigger, which calls a function that has this line: T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Note(gmcpval("status.enemy")) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't call gmcpval directly. it's defined in namespace. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in another namespace T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, that's what I would've thought. The wiki seems to be showing it like that, though. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what page? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the gmcp in mush page, IIRC T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: one sec T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sigh, firefox is crashing on me T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "The safe way to do this is via the helper function gmcpval which will check each level of the table heirarchy and return an empty value if the data is not found" T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: local hp = gmcpval("vitals.hp") T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is the example they give T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. you have to require "gmcphelper" T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm actually a bit surprised that that works T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it won't work directly T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wow, that's a bit convoluted actually T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: before you can use that, not only do you have to require "gmcphelper", but you also have to do luastmt = "gmcpdata = " .. gmcparg and then assert (loadstring (luastmt or "")) () after your callplugin T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because you have to populate gmcpdata T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: test T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that should be made clear on the wiki page T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I put Send_GMCP_Packet("request char") T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err put that into the onpluginenable() func T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: except that it looks like gmcpdata has to be populated local to your plugin, because it's not set in aardhelper.lua T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for some of mine...if you added the plugin while already connected to aard, they'd be nil values for gmcpval T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: er gmcphelper.lua T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and gmcpval uses gmcpdata, which I guess it depends on the gmcp handler plugin for setting usually T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's all very roundabout T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gmcpdata is being set in the luastmt = ... and the loadstring T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because gmcphelper.lua doesn't itself store the data, just the function T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In each individual plugin T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: At any rate, I did get it working like it's shown in the wiki after the require. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I was wondering why the wiki actually bothered converting the gmcp stuff to a table if it wasn't going actually use the table. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't bother with the local maxhp = gmcpval("maxstats.maxhp") T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err the local maxhp = gmcpval("maxstats.maxhp") part, I just use gmcpval("maxstats.maxhp") in the if statement T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but all my plugins are pretty much just using 1 or 2 vars in simple checks T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: local variables are faster in lua, so it makes sense in tight loops I guess T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's kind of neat is that you can even instantiate library functions as local to make them faster T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, all I have is check level for whogroup & warfare gag, and check hp_percent in autoquaff & autorecall T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: local stringfind = string.find T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: etc T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: localizing everything is one of the less hardcore performance optimization tricks after switching to luajit T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm actually not sure if it still has an impact with luajit, though. hold on let me test. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd think it'd be less efficient to use local vars if you're setting the local var whenever you're using it though T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think in luajit it doesn't make a difference T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using it multiple times after setting it, that'd be something that could help, but to get it and use it once, you're still getting it from global just as much and not saving T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it could just be the triviality of my test case, but... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \\\local time=utils.timer() T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \\\local time=utils.timer();local max = math.max; for i=1,1000000000 do math.max(1.1,10) end;print(utils.timer()-time) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeilds no perceptible difference if I change the second math.max to just max T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for functions, I'd guess that it would depend on how mush handles caching compiled funcs T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah. since those were constants, it's probably just caching the whole thing T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let's see... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's keeping the last n used global functions in memory, then you'd have to cycle through n+1 functions to notice benefit (that said, dunno how many the average MUSH session calls per unit time ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what I find funny is that increasing the number of loop steps by a factor of 10, makes the time go up by a factor of 20 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i must be hitting some kind of boundary T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Wonder if lua uses more bytes for larger numbers T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: doubles vs. shorts, or whatever T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: internal behavior of luajit in that regard may be different than lua T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case, 10000000000 calls to math.max(i,i+1) /heh/ appears to have no performance difference at all if math.max is locally instanced T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: bigints as loop counters? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: using luajit from the mushclient command line T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just curious, how long's that take to run? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 17 seconds. drop by /10 and it goes down to .8 seconds T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nice that you can do a billion iterations in under a second T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, sounds definitely like bigint loop counters. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, I went from .72 to 13.88 :-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc flexes his i7 laptop T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh yeah. i'm running inside a virtual machine T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vm or wine? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Care to test around the 2^31-1 boundaries? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: windows 7 vm T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in virtualbox T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's impressive :-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Electrobite tells you 'hi, wanna help?' T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no context at all T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Electrobite tells you 'nvm, got it after 4 hours, sorry for bothering' T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: should have messaged 4 hours ago, I guess T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: holy cow T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just as an experiment, I reverted back to the original lua dll from luajit, and that loop is still going after over a minute :| T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: still not done T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, the 1 bil one, or the 10 bil one? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the larger T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I finally just killed the process :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2,147,483,646 1.5332 secs, 2,147,483,647 2.9936 secs...pretty linear on either side of those boundaries, up to a test of 200 bil at 279.14 secs T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish laughs out loud. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd like to see the timing for 200 bil in regular lua T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when was the change to jit? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let me check T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: november 22, 2010 - update lua to luajit beta 5 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: May 27, 2011 - update to beta7 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's only the aardwolf client package. mushclient ships with just lua T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I've got your client package based on 4.70, but it's before the version info T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's probably still after I changed to luajit T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient 4.71 came in december T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's an easy way to check T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's about the same times T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \\\print(jit.version) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: assuming \\\ is your script prefix T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, I've got bast's old portable mushclient ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah. ew T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd been using the execute immediately box instead of cmd line T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't remember how he pieced that together T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, well I can tell you that he sets it to automatically connect on open :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mine does that T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, but not until you close that opening popup...I just leave that open T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right. I changed the connect to be handled by the plugin so that I could have players see the intro screen before being hit with aard login stuff T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since I only use mush to test, and often change it to connect to my local unix box, that pause is good for me ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holy crap it's still going on the 1 bil one T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: took 125.3929 secs for local time=utils.timer();local max = math.max; for i=1,1000000000 do math.max(1.1,10) end;print(utils.timer()-time) on Bast-PortableMUSHclient-v4-rev891 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so 10 billion would be 20 times that for me. *cough* T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a factor of ~150 speedup T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll take it T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, cuz that bast was also based on 4.70 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nice thing about the portable jobbies is that you can collect a graveyard of test cases :-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is a graveyard, though. that's why I don't keep old downloads available on the google code site T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even though google suggests that I'm wrong T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually the major reason for it is that google doesn't have a way of giving the latest download a static url T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have bast's v3 rev813, based on 4.57, his v4, your old one from 4.70, your rev 342 (on 4.72) and your rev 812 (on 4.73) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: revision numbers really started jumping when I wrote the online guide because wiki edits are also revisions T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nod, when I start the r812, it tells me the version history info for 936, 947 & 956 in the update checker T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it list all snapshots from mine to current, or specifically go back 3 revs? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you could change first r value in your local file to one of the very early numbers and get the entire list T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, looking at the update checker code...-- With luck this will be found and fixed in 4.73...do ya know if it was? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it was, but nick wasn't sure about the fix T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so I decided to leave the delay in T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl ErrorMessage = "Oh, dear...this is embarrassing. The Aardwolf MUSHclient Package update checker has detected that you have a version NEWER than what is available online! Go to the following url in your browser to get the latest package and contact Fiendish about this message, because clearly this situation is impossible. :/" T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: else ErrorMessage = "Impossible Error" T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because it's impossible! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you could've just typoed a number in the aardwolfpackagechanges.txt file T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only way that error happens is if the player modifies the file T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or does google actually make the file? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I modify and upload the file before packaging a snapshot T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since snapshots are always exported from the head revision and never from my local copy, it won't happen because of my mistake T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless I accidentally put a smaller number into the file T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which I can't imagine doing T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, [03 Jun 14:56:50] Abelinc Tech: or you could've just typoed a number in the aardwolfpackagechanges.txt file :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but i'm not that careless T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely, but nowhere near impossible :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's impossible is that they actually have newer software T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, the time travel clause T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd have to upload an older snapshot, which won't happen because snapshots are made from the head revision T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's possible for their software to report as newer, as long as that one file has a hand-typed number T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why they can contact me for help T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just changed my line 3 to r234...yup, shows the whole rev list except beta and 236 itself :-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err to 236 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't accept a number that doesn't appear in the list tho, so can't just take off the "8" from 812 T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a number not in the list would mean you've been messing with the file, so it's no longer valid T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: me? messing with the file? How could you even suggest such a thing! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You innocently whistle a tune. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least that's a case I can detect and say "look. I don't know what version you have anymore." T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the message part gave the error, but the header part still said "You currently have version r12 and the newest version is r956" :-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now to timewarp }:> T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: Anyone have a recommendation for a good (super simple) study timer? something that beeps after a time you input? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: software study timer :p T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: time to quest trigger }:> T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Use your client. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: ugh triggers :p T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: focus booster T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: CoolTimer. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: http://www.focusboosterapp.com/download T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How long are you looking for? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: checking both out, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: anyone with an iPhone having problems with the battery suddenly draining very quickly? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: reboot it T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it searching for a signal? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to reboot, can just close running apps T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-click the round button T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bottom part will slide up to show recently-used apps T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: nope and nope. regular reboot didn't help, and all apps are killed, 4 bar signal. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: jailbroken? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Backlight on constant? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: rofl, nope T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: is it new? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: licking the power connector a lot? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How old is it? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: did you burn out the battery? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: rubbing it on your face? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: its 1.5 years old, and I lick everything that is bacon flavored... not power connectors T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: did you drop it on your BLT? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: I want a bacon phone :( T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: bacon phone ftw, and I've dropped it regularly, but not recently T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: maybe the heat killed it! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: maybe just the bacon app? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Baconist: http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: it works just fine, but whereas it would keep a charge for 3 days last week, it discharges totally in less than a day now T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: oh so it happened that fast... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: bluetooth searching? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: have you tried to restore it, yet? maybe a new app is draining it T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: something in the background T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: For proper maintenance of a lithium-based battery, its important to keep the electrons in it moving occasionally. Be sure to go through at least one charge cycle per month (charging the battery to 100% and then completely running it down). T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: bluetooth off... was on last week, but I got tired of my iPad losing connection with LogMeIn when it found the iPhone T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i put mine in the LHC for a bit to clear the battery T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: I just did a hard reset (hold down the round button and the reset button until the white apple appears, vs. just reset button and slide to turn off... we'll see if that clears it up T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: ATT says 2 years max on an iphone battery... it may just be time to birth another battery T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: BIRTH IT! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why doesn't mush accept any new triggers? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does accept new triggers. You have to set them up correctly. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you're doing something wrong T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: only Bob The Awesome can make triggers.. sorry T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I send a message to the MUD and NOT show the response in the mainwindow? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: There's an option in most clients somewhere. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Simplest way would be to set a var that you've sent a command, then catch the expected response line (may be multiple replies) and gag it T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ... A trigger that I set EARLIER is not working now... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: the Quest one? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I love how you put the emphasis on "earlier." It's like you think we thought you did it in the FUTURE. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Does he mean before the timestamps problem? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: what tag is this: {affon} T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spelltags T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: used by most spellup scripts T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload your spellup script if you're seeing that tag T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT ( I don't have one enabled T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Then GET one! T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be why you're seeing it then ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: hehe. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: any sites have a good one? I use bast's spellup plugin on my other computer because of more screenspace T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What?! NOW they are working... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's works fine without screen space T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can choose how much room the spellup script takes up, even giving it none T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: 15 inch laptop, like to see the plugin though, prefer the 27 inch desktop T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: drool.... only have 23 inch. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Be jealous. :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: and oh. btw. bobthegreat has the same 27 inch T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, at that point, bigger doesn't show more, just shows bigger :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 36 inch :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: tv? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 17 on laptop, 36 inch external T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: 55" :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: well then. :) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://xkcd.com/732/ T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I don't have any lack of screen space :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: this better not be some rickroll T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xkcd is never rickroll :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: xkcd isn't rick rolling. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lol abel T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now you know why screen size isn't an impressive stat :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: lol nice T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: But its nice to have. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Heard there are some new screens coming out, where the screen goes 99% to the edge. No border. So a 23" is really 23" of screen not 20. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: yeah, seen TVs like that already, thinner than my ipod... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, something is wrong :-) T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :P T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: where can I found my aliasses if I upgrade mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: In the same place they were before you upgraded. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page on aard's site with the client download has upgrade instruction T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I did everything T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You shake your head at Ebullient Etzli. T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I need to replace everything, or not? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: you can save them from your old install, mohan T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: then load them on the new one T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no mohan T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how cai I upgrade it too? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mohan, open up the previous mushclient, go to game -> configure -> aliases...highlight them all, click "copy" T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the new one, go to game -> configure -> aliases, click "paste" T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a simpler way via File->Import T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that will get aliases triggers timers and other settings in one stroke T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks, but now I can't find the aliasses T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: they are not there :P, I think I deleted accidentally all aliasses T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you deleted, then there's not much to be done... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's why you shouldn't try overwriting your mush with a new one...download the new one somewhere else, keep both until you're sure the new one is set up how you like T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I did it, and accidentally I made copy paste in wrong direction T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: there is an undo copy and undo move in the context menu... T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think he means in windows explorer T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: now than I need to do all aliasses again, I have a question about somenthing, how can I made an a variable for my default portal?, for example, actually I have aardportal, but I want to change it in the future, I have the variable for bag, but not for amulet T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: why in Bast plugin when I try to use auto-hunt it says i dont have aardwolf_exits_detector...its not in the Bast package T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: n T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: nm T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't believe bast includes an autohunt T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: yeah it does T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: not working right tho atm T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, there it is, it's swalec's autohunt T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Radical Tech: its not autohunting tho for me....for some reason T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mohan, just go to game -> configure -> variables T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: radical, did you add the aardwolf_exits_detector plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for example I have this line: Execute('get 5232001 ' .. GetVariable('bagportal')), Execute('wear 5232001 '), Execute('enter '), Execute('wear 5232287 '), Execute('put 5232001 ' .. GetVariable('bagportal')) for portal, but I wanna replace the line where I have the portal default, Execute('wear 5232287 ') T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: for one variable to replace it once T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the "get 5232001" to ('get ' .. GetVariable('portalname') T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you already know how to do that part, just do it for the other varname T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: and create a variable for portalname? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the same way you created one for portalbag T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: tahanks a lot T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you don't need all those executes and stuff T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thank you very much Fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can just use "get @portalname @portalbag" T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and check the checkbox for expand variables T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: which one is the aard default plugin that shows the stats? T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aard_statmon_gmcp.xml T3/r3/2011-06-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: exist one plugin for portals?, or how create one? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: explain T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I make one alias for each portal, so if I want to create a plugin to rem default portal, wear the portal to go and wear again portal deafult and put it again to bagportal T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the gmcp mapper accomodates portals T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see mapper help T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mohan giggles. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: ok, reading =) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I need to get the portals on inventory? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Mohan, just create aliases using your client...make your alias name the name of the area then put "take portal bag, wear portal, enter, remove portal, put portal bag" and then when you go the the spot that the portal leads, just type mapper portal xxx where XXX is the area name you entered before. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: got it =) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crixus ) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Is there any reason why the * thing for triggers wont work on tells? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: nvm :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: anyone on? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli yawns. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: anyone who i dont have on ignore on? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli pats Crixus on his head. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there an Excel function that will take the date and return the name of the day? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: E.g. if the date is 6/04/11 it will return Saturday? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: No T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: would be a wonderful feature though T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You can do that, sure. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Maybe, I think. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Not to my knowledge at least T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://www.theexceladdict.com/_q/q040922.htm T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The Weekday formula gives a number, which you can use another formula to show the day. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: if today is friday could you write an excel function to tell you what yesterday was, what tomorrow will be, and what comes afterward? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Druzil Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/214094 there's the GMT time functions in linux that take a second from 1976 or something like that and calculate leap years/day's of week and things like that from it T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: No, Vale, but I'm sure it could tell me which seat to take. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Druzil Tech: i imagine excel would be able to too, but you'd have to convert the date like that into that number T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ahh with multiple functions i guess, but an outright converter? i don't believe so T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Two formulas are all that are needed... :P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: WEEKDAY to show the number, and the formula =CHOOSE(WEEKDAY(cellthathasdate),"Sunday","Monday","Tuesday","Wednesday","Thursday","Friday","Saturday") T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So really, just one formula, and that's it. *shrug* T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... or just =TEXT(,"dddd") T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Jhav. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I was going to mention that next, since I saw that too. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Been a while since I've done something like that in Excel... *sigh* T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: So, mushclient question. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I need to reset my communication log window. Before you suggest it, resetaard only works on the main window. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: reinstall the plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Also tried that. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: if that doesn't work, delete the state, then reinstall T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i had that problem a while back an resized the aard window then dragged it around to refind my commubnications box T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: my communications box had just disappeared on me and nothing else worked T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Dragged it how, Vale? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: made it not the full mush window siz by clicking the thing next to the x T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: My problem is that I just went from a 1980x1200 monitor to a 1366x768 monitor T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: then clicked on edges to resize T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Vale, I have it at full size habitually. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah unfull size it T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: then drag it around your screen while manually resizing it to find comm log T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: remember the time when 800x600 was consider high resolution, :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Kuro: How? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: then move it to the right place then remaximize T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, reinstall the plugin, you should get some string of letters T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: that's the id T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Ah, nifty. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: then in the plugins folder, go to the state folder T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: delete the file that corresponds to that id T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: its a pain finding it though T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: after that, reinstall the plugin =P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: should make it appear in the default position T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Actually, simpler solution. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I can just edit the file. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: That tells me where the WINDOW_HEIGHT variable is. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu nods. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: brb T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: FIXED T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Danke, Kuro T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: np =P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Cirrus Tech: anyone uses bast plugins for mush? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. What is up? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Cirrus Tech: you know how to set it such that the miniwindows are above other windows? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Cirrus Tech: its currently hidden under my other windows when it appears :/ T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Click on the M and go to the Other and look for the Set the Layer. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Cirrus Tech: what is the M? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: However, Fiendish's plugins will always be on top of Bast due to the way they are coded. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The M on the Top of the Mini-window T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Cirrus Tech: oh ok thanks, so if i want to make it go on top of fiendish's plugins i have to modify the code? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast setup a 10 layer setup. Fiendish has it setup with put to back or pull to front. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cirrus: I am hoping Bast goes to the z-order setup that was released in the last MUSHclient update. Otherwise, you will have to figure out how to do it. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Cirrus Tech: if i click send to back for the fiendish plugin windows will it be behind bast's T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: nope. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smiley Cirrus Tech: hmm ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: where do you get the individual plugins at? Not the entire client package T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: finger bast for his plugins T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you enable the ones you want T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: well I want to use the aard mush client, but use some of bast's plugins T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yes, you can do that T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: okay, so I unzip both aardclient and bastclient on top of one another ? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I put mine in a v61 folder, not sure if that's the correct way or not. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: and bast isn't a client, it's just a plugin T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: ah. thanks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Baconist: You will need to have Aardwolf_MUSHclient unzipped. Next, you need to unzip Bast plugins into the World>Plugins folder. From there, add the plugins you want. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: beautiful man. tks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: anyone know if/how to turn on MCCP for Gmud client? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: Riddley, I looked briefly at gmud, it's not being maintained, I doubt it has MCCP features T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: ahh, thanks Mieko :) I looked everywhere, just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing it T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: comments on mudbytes.net indicate it doesn't support any mud protocols T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: oh great :/ T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i'm sure you can find some modern options T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: why not use mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: I guess I'll have to do some surfing for clients. :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mandorallen That is the smallest list I have seen in a while. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie runs away in utter terror! T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Mandy Mandorallen goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there, now it's longer :-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Mandy Mandorallen grins evilly. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I always wonder why Aardwolf was not on December 7th's date. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: obviously because it hasn't sent a tell to Mandorallen requesting that it be added. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I heard Aardwolf is a bot anyways - it's all run by computer! T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Aardwolf theoretically has two days you can consider its birthday - November 29th was when Lash & Valkur started making Aardwolf. December 7th was when it was first open to the public. To most people, December 7 is the anniversary date. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Who is this Valkur? He still around? He leave to spend more time with his family? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Valkur moved one. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Valkur moved one T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Valkur moved on. *growl* T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: can someone tell me how to turn on the MCCP for mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Should be turned on by default T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: should be enabled by default T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing to do to turn it off, it's negotiated with the server T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: type mccp, what does it say? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: ahh, it's on...I was looking at the configuration before connecting :) dug T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: er duh T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth is expressing how much wootness WileyCoyote exhibits. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud whats the fuction to show decimal places? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: you mean float? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: hehe was about to say that, but don't know cmud syntax T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats what i thought thanks =/ T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: how come my score screen is all out of alignment? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it wide enough to hold everything? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shameful Dugrant snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: how do I check that using mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're talking about when you type "score" or when you look in the little window on the right? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: when I type score, all the stuff is not lining up nicely like when I was using raw telnet :( T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not using a mono font? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you change the font after getting mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: I think I did T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when changing fonts (even in telnet), you must always choose a font that displays "iiiii" the same width as it displays "wwwww", which is not many of the fonts on computers T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to game -> configure -> output, click font T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything that says fixed or console will be good T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or courier T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: courier worked, thanks Abelinc :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: one more thing and that should take care of a lot of questions... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure :-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: I can't get the helpfile to load for mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're prolly on vista or w7 T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: win 7? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: win 7 T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: view the online help files T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to download the helpfile viewer from microsoft T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use the website to do the helpfiles. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: I wonder why you can't click on a link in mushclient and have it open your default browser. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kyriantha, because they're .hlp files T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: do I need to save the download to a specific location? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: no I know that, I meant like the link you just posted. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you install it into windows T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: it would be cool if you could click on a website link and have it open your browser. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, kyriantha T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: it doesn't work for me. hmm. go figure. heh T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use the openbrowser script function T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: OK, I'm on the Microsoft website, Abelinc. Should I Open or Save the download file? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: OK, it says that it is already installed on this computer T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: but I cannot access the help files for mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: WileyCoyote: Do you have net access? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, I know... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: WileyCoyote: The helpfiles are listed on MUSHclient's website too. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not as useful, turie T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is in how mushclient gets installed (i.e. it doesn't) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: I know, but I cannot get the helpfiles to open because I cannot see the WinHlp32.hlp file. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it's a zipfile that originated on the Internet, Windows thinks it's dangerous (that's also why it asks if you really want to run it) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can if you follow what I'm saying :P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the MUSHCLIENT.HLP file, go to properties T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is in C:/Windows/Winsys/ I think. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the very bottom of the properties will be "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer" T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no turie T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to see anything in windows T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click "unblock" T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: Abelinc, I don't see the unblock or the security warning you mentioned T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: I right-clicked on the mushclient.hlp file like you said and selected properties T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using the mushclient from aard's site, or from gammon's? (should be from aard's or fiendish's google code page) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: using Gammons T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, heck, then you're missing 98% of the good stuff about MUSHclient :P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: heh, ok, I'll uninstall this and download from aard T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: will I still have the Win 7 problem with helpfiles with the Aard client? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: ok, that's the way I'll go ... thanks everyone! T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: sorry for all the questions/issues T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WileyCoyote Tech: bbiab :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you will have to unblock it, though T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks Abelinc, I had written off ever seeing MUSHClient help directly. I wasn't =aware of that particular security feature. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll ask fiendish to throw it into his wiki FAQ :-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: And the link to where to get the WinHlp32 file. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon's site has a page on the help not working that covers the winhlp32, but it doesn't cover the difference between the unzipped archive and an installer which takes care of the security part T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Fiendish are you Nick Gammon posing as a female?!! T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theido Tech: how do I set my prompt to color my health mana and movement? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help prompt and help color :-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Check out Help PROPMT and help color T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't have it automatically make high health green and low health red from the MUD itself, though T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are scripts/plugins that draw health bars and color them that way, though T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theido Tech: well I've never played a mud that did it, so not concerned T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mushclient download from aard's page comes prepackaged with a buttload of helpful scripts already...and it's a zipfile that doesn't need to be installed, so won't mess with any of your other clients/settings/worlds T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Like the mapper plugin. The most amazingest feature of the Aard MUSHclient download. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: can you translate that? I'm not familiar with your units of measurement T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buttload, it's a smidgen under crapton T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko sighs at the degradation of society. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to add bast's stuff to reach crapton T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Buttload actually is a real (old fashioned) measurement. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh karzon, that just reminded me of the whole diatribe about how wide railroad tracks are T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: "An English butt is 2 hogshead of 54 imperial gallons each or ~129.7 US gallons (i.e., a UK butt is apparently slightly bigger than a US one)." T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: whatever that means. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those that are not anally retentive are going to dislike that buttload/crapload T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: A Butt or Pipe is 476.96 litters. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Uh oh, what have I started. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko mutters nerds. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mieko: Never Ending Radical Dudes! T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what about measurements from Butte Montana T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Down here we're all buttes. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: I'm flummoxed by this MAG stuff because the triggers just seem.. wrong T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I haven't heard anything from mudlet people in a while T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 476.75 litters of what, kittens/puppies T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: is "^(\w+) (\w+): (.*)$" the standard signature for channels? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: that is, do they all look like "Foo Channel: Words" other than newbie? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz: Wine! The drink of the poor and rich! T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko ponders that. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: that's not supposed to happen..... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: channels should be being captured using tags T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: or gmcp T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Oh right you guys have exciting tagging stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: oh? you're using GMCP comm? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, gmcp isn't ready for channel cap yet :P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: hmm? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Doh, got my hopes up T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i don't use it but why not? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we do have gmcp comm, but then you've still got to gag the channel... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Ah T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so even if you use gmcp, you STILL have to have the regular trig T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might as well just use the regular trig T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Mhm T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: if you don't want the channels on main window that is T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theido Tech: any idead why my mana isn't showing up in my prompt command "prompt %h/%H Hp %m / %M Mn %v/%V Mv %XTnl"? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the trig should be {chan ch=} T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or in Abelinc's case, do not log the channel. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Too many colors T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: I hit that problem T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Theido Tech: how many colors can prompt use? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Up to however many characters you can have in the prompt? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: recomendation was 5 or less T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Well that explains why the MAG wasn't working T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: I'm sitting there staring at the trigger going "uhh why are there curly brackets" T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz there should be :-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Right but I didn't realise the tag thing T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not seeing any color count limitations, I just set every character in my prompt to a different color value T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: works fine T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathandra Tech: Well there's some sort of character limit or something, maybe that's what I ran into T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: are your eyes okay still Abe? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, there are character limits, but not color-related T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost everything from prompt is better to get from gmcp nowadays tho :-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only a couple things aren't available, like 2x exp T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thiedo, also pay attention to whether you're fighting or not while playing with your prompt...those 2 prompts are unrelated, prompt and bprompt :-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: how come my trigger isn't executing? I'm using the Aardwolf Mushclient btw T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I am sorry, we are going to need more information. What are you trying to match? Did you try sending it from the MUD using echo, or using the trigger tester? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That doesn't really give us much information to work with... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's like saying 'Why won't my car start? I'm driving a Honda Civic.' T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: I have a trigger set on You receive (so that after a kill, I hide again) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Actually that one's self explanatory. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: but for some reason, when I get the You receive X experience points after a kill, it's not sending the hide command to the mud T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How do you know it's not working, what exactly are you matching? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What are you sending, and are you sending to script or mud? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: You receive --> hide T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (but which Aardwolf mushclient (Honda Civic), this year's model or the older model) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: honda civic? i run a honda store:) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, you need to do You receive * experience* --> Send to MUD --> hide T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that trigger is fun during a double T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: honda's always start. Now, if it was an american car, I would understand if it did not work. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: there's about 20 options under Send to T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: mud isn't one of them T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, you need to do send to world (not MUD, sorr) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: +y T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: I tried world T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And did you do the trigger the way I showed you? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah your match isn't right, like Etzli said. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, it may not be a great idea to automatically hide between each fight. It's going to take away from your killspeed (unless you need it wfor e.g. backstab). T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: yeah, that's the idea T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: MUSH automatically assumes a ^ and $ (starline and endline) character exists, so it's matching ^You receive$ and that's it. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: True story, I pretty much only use my autohide option when I'm campaigning T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Same here. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: it also helps improve my hide % while I'm waiting to get backstab T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: I would think it would theoretically be possible to hide when gmcp says your position has changed from fighting to normal.? so could you trigger on something like that, perhaps? rather than triggger on the text? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: that time it worked (I did You receive * experience*) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: thanks guys T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: but why wouldn't it work for You receive ? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: it would. but when there's a double... or when you increase a spell. or any other time that text appears, it's gonna trigger T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: ah, I see T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if you need it for backstab, couldnt you just make an alias like hide semicolon backstab T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kyriantha rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: it's just a pain in the butt being a thief sometimes :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: is there a command for wildcard? is it still *? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how bad do you think it'd be if I made the aardwolf mushclient package require at least windows xp? no 2000 or 98 T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: not bad at all T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: nah. not bad. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If people are still using Windows 2k or 98... then that's their fault... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess so T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: then again they are still mudding T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: You could always direct them to the older version. If they have an older OS, I doubt they'd care about that. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: how do you get the tick timer on mush? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: goddamn microsoft T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: X.X T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the tick timer plugin is included with the aardwolf mushclient package now T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: msvc 2008 doesn't target windows older than xp, apparently T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: apps built in 2008 when run on 98SE will politely tell the user to upgrade their operating system and then not run T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: apps built in 2005 will run fine T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: really ? never knew that T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: another reason not to move to 2008 T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in CSS, you can pair a class selector with a tag selector (ie, .marked p or p.marked). Can you do the same with id selectors (ie, #marked p or p#marked)? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't think so, but I could be wrong. Been a long time since I played with CSS. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I figured it out, just used the tag name and the attribute selector (tag[attribute="value"]) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can do p.classone { css-stuff T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Goddamit. Parsing. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can do p.classone { css-stuff; } p.classtwo { different-css-stuff; } T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: does anyone know the factory issue PUK code for lg touch screen phones ? :P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: well, 2 tps to anyone that can help me fix my phone :P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is wrong? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: need a puk code as far as i can tell T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: all it says is PUK blocked T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You have to call your carrier. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: doubt they'll be open till monday T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Who do you have? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: at&t T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: PUK codes can only be given by your service provider. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Try calling them, though you're probably right. More than likely, they won't be open. Don't recall them being open on weekends when I had them. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (By the way, PUK are sim card specific, which is why you need to contact them.) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: someone gave me an answer, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: http://www.lg-phones.org/lg-phones T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: -unlock-code.html T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: is the end of it T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: and my answer is in the comments T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: i would have been able to get a code off their website but since i did it ten times wrong i guess i need a new sim card now T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's why you contact your carrier. They can unlock the SIM card. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how much is the PUKcode going to cost you T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Again, PUKs are sim specific. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: i guess its worth a try, still prolly not worth bothering until monday T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Xyliz, PUK codes are free of charge. They're just a security mechanism designed to keep intruders out of your phone guessing the wrong thing too many times. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know where i can get a few basic scripts for cmud? like spellup etc, the davos one doesn't work:P T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a spellup script is not basic T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Davos one does work, just needs a few fixings. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anywho, did you know about the Package Library? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: basic in the sense that everyone uses one:) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: how do i access it? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: basic as in basicly its needed to paly well? LOL T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: View Menu, if I recall T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: anyone know where i might find a good site for PPD's for a canon MF3200? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: looking for a PPD file for ubuntu, for the canon printers... any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Did you try google? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Spamming us with a question every minute isn't going to solve your issue. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: sorry... didn't mean to be spaming... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: thought i'd word it differently :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: and yes, tried google, but don't know if i am looking incorrectly or what but can't seem to find anything T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: anyone know where to find a PPD for a Canon MF3200? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: anyone able to help me with a cmud trigger question? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: fire away T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: so I'm trying to capture my campaign items to another window. the patter tester lists this is working, but it never triggers. You still have to kill * (*) ((*)) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: any idea why it is failing? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I assume it's because you didn't quote the parentheses T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: hrm. no, i did. the squiggly didn't go through chat for some reason T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: put ` at the front of the line when you don't want the command-line to be parsed T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: like this You still have to kill ~* (*) ~((*)~) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why wouldn't it match? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: obviously you can do it a whole lot better, but there's nothing in that pattern that should make it not work T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: hmm. it's driving me crazy. all the trigger is doing(at the moment) is playing a wav file. if I just set the trigger pattern to " You still have to kill ~* " it triggers fine. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: and yeah, i'm sure I could do it better, but it's been a decade since i've done any real programming. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: have you checked the existing campaign plugin, maybe some hints there on how to do it? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ain't no plugins in CMud T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there are scripts for it (and zmud, which can be used for reference) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: well, actually i did steal the mushclient campaign plugin's regex pattern and i still got nothing. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: and I take it it uses regexp which is the same regardless of client T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it CAN use regexp T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pattern quoted above is not regex T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nope, cmud/zmud regex is different from mushclient regex. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you select regex? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient and cmud don't use regex by default T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's cmud pattern matching and there's regexp T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: correct, i've tried both. with both passing in the cmud pattern test tab T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: sorry, not familiar with cmud .. :( T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, with your name, I'd figure you to be familiar with it ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: lol - i was tempted to say the same thing. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: heh.. never even tried it :) T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: anyone know where to get a ppd for a printer? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he's a fanboi/poser. No relation to Mr. Potter. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you ever get people asking if you're him? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's only been on aard with that name for a couple weeks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: really? Seemed a lot longer than that... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: so is there some grand repository beyond the sparse links I find on google with zmud/cmud scripts for aard? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: working on that, though T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: however, we DO have a repository built into the client. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: yeah, i checked there. there's some neat stuff, but nothing for campaigns T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's also davos.aardcharn.com for some cmud scripts T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as mentioned, though, can start with a zmud one & tweak it to work with cmud T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you might not really want to do that, though, as easily possible as that is. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: built into the client? how do you get aard zmud client? or is it built into all zmud? how do you access it? T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason not to when starting from scratch isn't working... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zylias, cmud, not zmud T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud has a script repository button in the toolbar T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: i thought you were saying zmud had the respository and cmud had the link. my mistake. thanks T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even aside from the death by a million small edits, CMud's doing things differently enough that a zmud import's going to be inefficient. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: working is less inefficient than not working T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I would just write the scripts from scratch. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what was tried and failed, hence the conversation here... T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the conversion doesn't prepare one for the difference in techniques. T3/r3/2011-06-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so unless either of you is actually GOING to write it from scratch and post it, my suggestion stands as the best one so far :P T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: cmud has package sharing facility, if you are asking about scripts repositories. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's been suggested, with none in the repository for this T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: qwezo, I think the flaw in your pattern is the lack of the trailing period T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: on the matter of that trigger, you have to escape the * that's part of the text. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because your pattern had the ~( and ~), it must end there T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did escape it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he didn't specify an anchor, so anything between the last character of the pattern and the end of the line doesn't matter T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You still have to kill ~* (*) ~((*)~) T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what he had posted for his pattern, so it appears to have the right escapes T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: try this: .+ kill 1 \*([^\(]+)\(([^\)]+)\)$ T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps it's a spaces issue T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: then %trim() and %trim() gives you mob and room/area. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, .+ at the beginning of an unanchored trig is rather redundant and inefficient T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: then %trim(%1) and %trim(%2) that is T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: regex is to be avoided unless the user is familiar with it. You're just going to confuse the crap out the novices with it, and in all but a few percent of cases zscript is just as easy and just as capable. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: whatever... so clean it up. It works. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's no "1" in cp c...is this going by cp i or cp c output? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the pattern works for cp i, cp c, gq i, gq c T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: ok, you guys deal with it. I got other things to do. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't match my cp c of "You still have to kill * Mrs. Riding Hood (Mother's House)."...because you have "kill 1 \*" T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one and space don't exist but are literals T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: mush question, how come only one trigger / line fires ? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have them set to fallthrough T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep evaluating checkbox T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: ah .. found it.. thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sometimes it's desired to have one trigger trump others, sometimes it's not...so between that checkbox and the priority value of triggers, you can have pretty complex hierarchy setups T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, mushclient calls the priority the sequence number T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've almost worn out my h key from quaffing too many healing potions (my alias is hh), have to press it really hard for it too work. My poor old trusty keyboard :( T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's why you use macros and only have to press it once. :D T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I use the multipy key for my quaffing. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: make a button to quaff potions, mice are cheap T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no, my mouse costs 90 bucks T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: okay, a normal functional mouse is cheap... T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: My mouse had to be imported from South Korea. :P T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have an old sun keyboard, they don't make those anymore... and I really like it. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I hope you got a phone number when you bought your mouse T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Is the .db files getting corrupted fixed in the new mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I still don't have any reproducible cause of the error other than "My computer crashed" T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Ah. Will test it then. Thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the new mushclient should at least properly store backups T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: I hope so. But for the sake of safety I keep like 3 backups already T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it rotates the backups automatically on a staggered schedule. 1 day old, 1 week old, 1 month old, 3 months old...uh I think T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Do I understand this right, we can program custom exits into the mapper, so it can use them in a runto? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the rotation schedule only applies to the automatic backups, not the manual ones T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but there were some quirks that I didn't get ironed out until after the last official release T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so if you wait for official release announcements to upgrade, then it will be fixed in the next one T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fingers crossed T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: While we're on the mapper topic - Custom exits have higher precedence than standard exits when mapping a runto, right? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: correct T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Good - mapping door exits atm, good to know T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Not when mousing around! T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mousing inconsistency will be changed in the next release T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: what mousing inconsistency? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: clicking on rooms would not use portals or custom exits previously. some people complained T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: for mush, any idea why openbrowser seems to require http:// in front? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Hmm... Seems the mapper now finds things I custom exit'ed :) T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because a uri isn't valid without the protocol prefix T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: most browsers nowadays can handle that though T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm using os.execute to do it instead, but it's slower and pops up a cmd box T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, most browsers just make a not necessarily correct assumption T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: modify hyperlinks to open sites if someone says say, 'google.com' T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I already have a modified version of the chat capture window that has clickable hyperlinks T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I won't release it until mushclient 4.74 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nod, i used it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not ready yet T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's at least one known bug, and part of it relies on a bug fix in 4.74 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but if i say for example, tinyrl.com/blahla T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you won't be able to click on it :p T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not willing to say that any string containing .com is a url T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's too arbitrary T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fair enough, which is why i'm not suggesting it's a general change T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but for my purposes i used to do that in zmud, i just didn't click on everything that wasn't such a link T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sure it'd underline the wrong stuff sometimes, but not a big problem to me, over having to ctrl c stuff :p T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you have to get .org and .net and .us and .io and .tv and .co.uk and .xxx and .cx and .co.il and ... T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so just asking if any better way than os.execute T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i underline pretty much any two words joined with a . T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just prepend http:// if it isn't there T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Good - mapping door exits atm, good to know T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hiroki Tech: any way to disable the . from sending to gossip? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: client-side alias T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidbburn Tech: how do I add all spells to cast on others on the bsp spellup plugin T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: bsp oadd all T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I think T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i don't know, but the in-game spellup others option doesn't work for you? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you might have to do a bsp oremove all first T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidbburn Tech: yes thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bsp oadd allspell could be it. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: how do i stop seeing inv data T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tag off inv I think T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: No, that's the inv tag, not inv data. You're using a script that uses invdata, so you'd have to turn off the script. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: invmon T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: thanks for the help got it by disabling the script T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markyboy Tech: ^haha T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: test T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well hi T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Is another players quest timer information possible to be picked up by a script. Like the group monitor does, but someone not in your group? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: only in group afaik T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does I think. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has group members quest timers I thought. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn nods at Turie. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: Sheni was saying someone Not in your group. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a mush function that will issue a command without an echo? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has to be a group member. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nod it does. Just wondering the possibility of others being able to see your QT not in your group. Say for PK. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: winkle, SendNoEcho() T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: merci boucoup! T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that did the trick Kuro T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: do you have a website that has the gmcp controls for aard? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks turie T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud if i use a fuction can i set multiple things like unction(%1,%2) T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that page is very good T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud if i use a fuction can i set multiple things like unction(,) T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: blagh T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: @function(~%1,~%2) ... T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spodgy Tech: just logged in using the new mush client using Wine/Ubuntu 10.10... works a treat if anyone's interested :) T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've ben looking and looking.. i forget the mush command to send commands to execute or script,,, 10 and 12 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: send_to="12" is script I think. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: 12 works for me. Anyone know why the Bast miniwin_quest plugin might close when a quest is complete? v 6.1 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no idea why arnica T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but what command take that argument? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: winklewinkle or T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope, I use the minwin_events.xml. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: The events is nice T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: very handy T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in scripting... it's soemthing like SendToSpecial T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: the events has a tab on top, don't like it =( T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kurojiryuu: It is good in the sense you can flip between list and if you have a small screen. It saves space! T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks I will try that. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: I just close it if I'm not using it =P T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not install quest, gq, and cp minwin. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I have all 3 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: Mushclient question: On Nick Gammon's site as well as Bast's site there are pages that appear to allow me to add an alias from the command line vs. the wizard (http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/bast_spellup) scroll down to the alist to go vis.... how do i enter these aliases? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have instructions on my site for it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: finger fiendish for site? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: fiendish, is there a lua way of doing a switch case like in java? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't ask me questions right now. i'm walking out the door. send me a note T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu nods. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: baconist, I think you're looking for this: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/CommandLineAliasesAndTriggers T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hi anyone good with mush (v4.73) pls T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Does excel 2007 get bugged or something and is unable to copy/paste? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Worked fine until today, now it is broken and I can't copy/paste anything between excel instances. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or even within the same instance. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bonjour.. what's your question? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It is saying something about "personal.xlsb is locked for editing", what is this file? I have no 'personal.xlsb' files open, there is no reason for it to be doing this. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: are you on a laptop? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: don't know what is wrong... excel was working earlier, broken now and no reason for it. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No. Work computer. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Rebooted the machine, no effect. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Starling: Is someone accessing the file? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: networked file? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oddly, zmud was also screwed up, even on a flash drive. All my sessions were gone. Had to re-create this one. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No, not networked anything. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How could someone be accessing the file? I'm the only person using this machine, and it isn't hooked to any network drives or anything. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: plus the internet. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: delete (mvoe) any files starting with ~ perhaps... T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just don't see why it won't let me copy/paste. I have never had this issue before. When I copy, it seems to behave normally. When I paste, it pastes an area that is the same size as the one I copied. However, the area is blank. No text. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: try paste special T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: make sure it is doing content and format T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Same effect T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Pastes same size area, but it's blank T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: where are you copying from? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Could the computer be screwed? It's some refurbished piece of crap. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Copying from one excel instance to another T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: the computer shouldn't have anything to do with it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: what about select all where it highlights everything, did you try copying the entire spreadsheet from one to another T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It keeps telling me the file is locked for editing, but there is no one else using or accessing this machine, shrug T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can't copy the entire spreadsheet, it will screw up my work T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I only need (can only use) one column in the source file T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: if you just downloaded the file, it could be in read only mode so you can't copy anything from it. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i understand, but what i am asking you is what happens after you copy the entire spreadsheet into a new blank worksheet T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It is not flagged as read-only in file properties T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: so you're trying a -> b, what im asking you to do is a -> b -> c T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If I could find select all.. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: very unfamiliar with vista and excel 2007 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: upper left triangle of the spreadsheet T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Office 2007 sucks. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: theres a button left of column A and above row 1 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: its pretty much a blan kbutton T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: or try select am, control a T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: shrug, it does paste the whole spreadsheet, just will not paste portions of it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: just copy that into a blank and new spreadsheet T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: it worked FINE until today, what could have changed? And what is this 'personal.xlsb' file that is apparently in use, that I have never opened, nor do I have any idea what it is? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: so perhaps theres an issue with the source of what you are copying from T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: by copying all and pasting somewhere else, you change that potential issue T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I copied all and pasted somewhere else, then copied the relevant column in the 'somewhere else' and it again refused to paste it. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Folks who recommended the Bast Events miniwin plugin, thank you. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nod, very nice plugin imo T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe I can locate this weird file and delete it, or somethig T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: are there any merged content or cells in your source? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't think so T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's just .las file, there shouldn't be anything but text in it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: and roughly how many cells are you copying? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Like 12 T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: have you tried pasting into notepad? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: guh, vista is awful... I can't even find that T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Give me a minute T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Does not paste to notepad T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Pastes the same number of blank lines, but no text T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: never heard of .LAS file, do you know what it is or what app uses that? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I googled it and there was something about excess styles and excel 2007 having an issue with that, and it said to delete the excess, but no idea how to do that. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: .las is long ascii or something, we import data to excel with it and until today there hasn't been a single problem T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Honestly I think the program is just screwed, will have to call someone tomorrow to come fix it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone have any idea why a if-then-else if-then-end code in lua keeps telling me I am missing an end? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thanks for your time T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: im guessing mimetype is recognized as a las, but it must be a different file saved as a .las T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: so perhaps someone was using perl saved it with that extension or something similar to that effect T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't think so, because the .las file I downloaded has all the required data in it T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just can't copy it to my working spreadsheet T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm just baffled, but it looks like the geologist isn't getting her gamma update tonight, sigh. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone here good with lua? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: c'est moi! T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I try to avoid it in my quest to deny all things WoW T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: heh, is there a way to make a switch case thing for lua? if elseif takes a lot of time T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: especially if I need it to fire only once T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: technically an scripting language elseif is as fast as a case T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as the flow will halt once it finds a match T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: think he meant "takes a lot of time" from a building standpoint T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: I'm firing the sequence I gave you on mush, and I can see a visible lagtime between the first if statement and the last one T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what are you trying to do that requires a switch block? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: fair enough T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: if the last elseif fires, the response is very quick, but if the first if statement fires, then the lag can be seen T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/25.3.html T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: seems to have some switch example T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm cool, thanks =D T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's in C. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You could write your code in C and call it all using Lua's C API. And C definitely has a switch statement. T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: does lua have java api? T3/r3/2011-06-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: =P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anyone have a few minutes to be a groupmate for testing my gmcp group trigger? Need a second person in the group to make sure the parsing is correct beyond the first person. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Invite me. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm, does anyone know how to make a plugin's variables save even after you close mush? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: maybe you could write a function that catches the hangup/terminate signal and dumps the variables of plugins that include it at exit T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i don't get any results from on_exit() or onexit() + mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: is that how it's normally done? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's how programs handle signals in most operating systems T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: might have to write an addon to mushclient for that functionality though, like here if you click x, it'll ask if you want to save changes to your session file if you made any - that's probably an on_exit() function routine T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: has anyone written scripts to play music during specific events like when in combat? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or make that routine callable by your plugins if there's no inbuilt ability to do that, then code into your plugin your command to flush the variables to a data file on disk for the plugin that includes the on_exit() function T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's not too difficult to do really, just requires maybe a recompiling of the client for your plugins T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or maybe the halt instruction could be called by your plugins individually, if that's accessible to non-compiled functions T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mieko i have a sound pack.. but .wav files only T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/ T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: afk T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: just an idle thought, I'm not ready to pursue it tonight T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'll make note of it, thank you for answering. I'm sorry I asked in the middle of another's answer T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=DoCommand this might be what you're looking for T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone good with Basts spellup plugin, got a question about spelling up other people? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone willing to help with using gmcp with mushclient plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hello T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: hi, welcome to the social channel :) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Sup Fiendish^^ T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Yo Fiendish, think its possible that someone could have or make a program that could read other players quest timers, outside of there group? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: whaat? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Like for instance you could see my quest timer right now. Even though we arent grouped. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: that would be abusable T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: couldn't I just ask you? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: For instance if I was waiting for you to quest to try and PK... T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why would I allow that? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's no ingame command to see others' qtime T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: of course not, I was wondering if you think its possible something like that could exist atm? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only if the other person is willing T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can run a 30min timer T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ahh nod, and just try to time 30 or 15 mins. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can stalk a few people at a time, but it would probably be pretty messy to automate T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Im just amazed at some peoples accuracy of when to stalk someone. Guess they are just patient and im paranoid :p T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you are paranoid Sheni, but that doesn't mean they're not really out to get you. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol, true enough. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it can be done, but you need to catch them on the first quest time to get the first timing T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and some people don't quest immediately when they can T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ahh nod. I thought maybe there was some sort tag or code that the public could intercept and spy on someones timer. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unless fiendish has a backdoor T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Cool, didnt know. To noobie with the tech stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I didnt want it, just wanted to know if it was possible. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't think I haven't considered it T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I always scry Sheni before I start my quest, just to be safe. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: heh out of my huge 6 pks... they are all revenges :p T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think the official client should not have stalker plugins... but maybe that's just me. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's a great way to let someone know you're active and paranoid T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: or not safe... T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually, I have considered putting in a minor backdoor, but just to be able to get a list of all players who use the client. I decided against it, though. It would be a breach of trust. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ive been stalking Redryn since T3... still havent cought him yet! T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: much so T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'd flip out T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can honestly say that I have almost as little interest in the development of someone else's character as I have in the development of my own character. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you needed the info, couldn't you ask lasher to see who's connecting with mushclient-aard? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: that can be spoofed T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or just use the clients command, which anyone can use T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I kind of hope that Lasher wouldn't give me that information T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: why not pull the stats from the update checker .. make that active by default T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: true, but who would bother T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: the information available shows a count of clients being used, not who is using what T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: and yes, it's a privacy thing. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Who is using which client is someting only the imms should know. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: analytics on the google code page tracks unique visitors to the download page, but that doesn't tell me player names T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why does it matter who knows? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it doesn't matter why it matters T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i put backdoors into my friends cmuds so if i update a script they will know and i can autoupdate them, its small and i told them though, so why dont you make a script and just say its a minor backdoor and they dont need to install ... meh T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: thank you for understanding Fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: opt in is always better than opt out T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm big on privacy T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hadar, there is already an update checker script. but it works on a pull basis, not a push basis. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't push updates. I post updates, and the update checker looks for a posted update every time the client starts T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is no reason to have a back door for that T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the checker merely alerts the player that a new update is available T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Technically, push tecnology does not exist, it's just pull with a force. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not true. I could in theory stream updates via tells :) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: that'd be a new and unique reason to ignore. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I could make a specially formulated announce post that looks like garbage data to anyone else, but causes an update on specially set up systems. it is possible. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but very ridiculous T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I would never do anything like that T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: ^81 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is that possible currently? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or you could disguise the commands for the update in a legit-appearing message T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is absolutely possible T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Fiendish is staring at all us MUSH users atm through our own web cams *waves to fiendish* T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a note on aard's boards could cause mush to update some plugins? :p T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yup T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is that a plugin function, or loophole in mush itself T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: neither T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: or simply seeing Fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: trigger to link some url to update o.O? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient can write the files directly T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: wow imagine if it was a note to update mapper. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: and it was triggered to send every time GQ is called. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 90% of mapper bots will lose :) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol dont do that. I havent had a chance to use the mapper to win yet, still exploring T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: consider this... T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: through scripting, on zmud, cmud, or mushclient, and probably a number of other clients, I could likely erase your hard drive if I wanted. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: please don't =P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I won't T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: How about you just get me 1000 tps :p T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's just a reminder to make sure you trust the person who wrote the scripts you're running T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: something to do with the ports that are open/telnet connection? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: remember, the plugins are pretty much open source, you can look through them. It's in your best interest to look and understand. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ere is a big reason that you want all your sw to be FLOSS. At least you have te option of checking te code. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: has nothing to do with ports T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i hope no one else knows how to do it :p T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suspect that the people who do know how to do it currently are limited to me and probably very few others T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I have no interest in reducing the number of people who find my work useful T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have broken my 'h' key by having 'hh' as an alias for healing quaff, in case anyone wondered why i am missing a lot of h. Have to pound it really hard. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: well, whoever would do such a thing would certainly be a fiendish devil T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oh wait... T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I broke my p key once T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I had to copy/paste every time I wanted to use it T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: so you had a tough time p'ing T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, I can remap it to another key, but that would be a pain to use T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: btw, I'm looking forward to seperation of channels in windows... T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: 100% secure computer is one running off of a non-grid generator with sufficient insulation around its room, not connected to any network outside of that room - you can try and patch every hold and stay up to date with every possible future patch on any system and be reading for a year, best thing is not to do any banking or personal transactions on them, and keep your use of them to vanity like this, or for searching for information T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if there's no problem with the code in your kernel or applications, currently, there might be some flaw in your processor or other hardware that bypasses all your software's security checks T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko sigs. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Druzil is fairly accurate there. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: There is no such thing as a perfectly secure network connected to the internet. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so it's absolutely pointless to look for security, unless you own the machines that make the computer from every wire up and down, and write your own operating system for it with the application's and compilers/assembler T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: That being said. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hey, you can trust me. I say it, so it must be true. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's only levels of people who you want to keep out, and you can bypass alot of them with some software security T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: There's a level of realistic security. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: If someone is dedicated and smart enough, they will get into your machine. Most are not both. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: not all machine's though, in my hypothetical secure system T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's a guy who still offers 1 million dollars to break into his c program without the use of a flawed assembler T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yes everything he said was true, most of it was not relevant. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dread Lord Morinon nods at Mieko. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Can I get a googleable phrase for information on that challenge? Seems like interesting reading T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i read it in a book somewhere, if i ever decide to finish it i might see if i can T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know what to make of that statement. I can't imagine what "flawed assembler" means. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: means the assembly language generated by the compiler is full of holes supported by the machine code spat out by the assembler T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but his program was hosted for hackers to log into and attempt to break T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so that flaw is on his end if it exists, and not somebody making a piece of garbage worth a million dollars on one platform T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: See, the thing about hacking is this. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: If I walk up to your place, steal the box your server is in, and walk off. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I've just hacked you. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko disconnects. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if my dog bites you on your way in and you trip a wire that releases a hatchet i had for convenience for wood cutting that impales you, and you break my dogs tooth - i can charge you for assault and vandalism of property from your will T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Well, yes. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: But at that point, depending on the state, I might be able to sue you for damages, as retarded as that is. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: My point is this. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: There's reasonable security, then there's unreasoning paranoia. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Under one of those, your computer is useful. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the person who defines reasonable paranoia might be one of the ones you should be most paranoid about, maybe he's slipping a fast one by everybody T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Under the other, I don't need to do anything, because you're not a threat, nor do you have anything of great worth to me. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: back to the levels of people you want to be secure from, and for what reasons - a kid who can be tracked, or a person who define's how they're tracked but is actually infiltrating your systems continually without your knowing T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: And again, it comes to security vs freedom. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: different networks and different cables for the bank, for the state and for the citizen, lots of optimizations could take place if people weren't hypnotized into false delusions of security and progress T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Security x freedom = constant. What that constant is varies. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A constant that varies. That is what we call a variable. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Yes, but that variable is not dependent upon the other two. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Therefore, in a simplification, we can treat it as a constant to get a general rule. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Such as, 'with an isothermic line, pressure times volume is a constant'. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iagoist Tech: how do i stop my client from keeping history directions? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: What do you mean? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iagoist Tech: i wanna scroll back through commands and not have to wade through e, w , s , etc T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're using MUSHclient, use the keypad to navigate around T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Ah, probably not, though I'm no expert. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah keypad ftw so much faster and it doesn't clutter history T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iagoist Tech: ok, what i want to do is only have commands in history like kill and heal no directional commands is there a way to do that in mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iagoist Tech: its a laptop no keypad T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone there? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: not that i know of although a usb numpad might work wonders for you T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: where? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: ya T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You don't make your questions very clear, you know. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Karzon stares blankly into his console. You want to hug him. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: OK brief question T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iagoist Tech: i'll try getting one thanks T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: if I have a Free public IP 58.27.46.*** and I want this to point an internal address of 192.168.1.249, T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: Obviously I have set up on the router side or the firewall itself? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: that is a very router-specific question .. I'm assuming you want to do port forwards? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: what was the command to set the client back to original? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: nope,i wanna a Free public IP to point an internal address T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Reina, sounds like DMZ T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Frolo, it's either initaard or resetaard, I believe. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: port forwarding, then T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: I wouldn't really recommend opening up your whole computer to the internet.. better to specify which ports you need to access from outside T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: well ,let put in this way,i have a free public ip 58.26.XX.XX so how do i point to my internal IP 192.168.1.249 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: port forwarding T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: in some routers there is a virtual pc option that would do that T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: every router has port forwarding feature. dunno what you're talking about T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: so i need to Port forward in router or Firewall? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you have a hardware firewall? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you open the port in the firewall and configure the router to forward certain ports to your machine T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: yes..the netword diagram is like this router->firewall->my device->Switch T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: so my device is using private ip which are 192.168.1.249 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so do port forwarding first T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: port forwarding for the public IP ? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: usually done in routers web ui T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the internet gateway/router. forward port X to 192.168.1.249 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and open the port in the firewall, if necessary T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: the foward port X --is the public ip? to 192.168.1.249? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you try to access it from outside, it'll try to connect to the router T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you tell the router to forward certain ports to your device T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just open the settings and check out port forwarding options T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's pretty straightforward T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: how abt the public ip itself?do i need to set it up? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so if port X is forwarded and you connect to publicip:X it'll be forwarded to yourdevice:X T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd use dyndns T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no tells, please T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i've already gave you the solution and explained it T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i'm not going over this again. just do the port forwarding options and ask for help if you get stuck there T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: easier to just leave the channel ;) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ostanes Tech: What's the function in MUSHchlient to have a script send input? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ostanes Tech: Ah... send, I guess T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: is there a way to return a boolean if a string contains a certain substring? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: for lua, that is T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK - so I've begun my inevitable conversion to Linux - who knows of a computer store that sells Ubuntu preloaded - preferably a Sydney, Australia store, though I could go for online... T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: why would a store load free software, more liability, no money T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So it's not done that way? - ok, so I buy a no-OS compy then? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just got a bit freaked when I saw my current win7 machine is 100% incompatible, on account of the way it handles being quad-core, apparently T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: other than laptops, I buy components T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: desktop components and put them together, not hard, off the shelf never has what I want T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh - I built my pc specs myself - didn't physically put it together though. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech} Forestseer Tech: anyone had success with mysql and cmud pro? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I remember seeing talk on this before, but is there any way to extend the mapper cexit wait time - I don't get to my destination in the 2 seconds it allows :-(( T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: somehow the new mudclient is really weird configurated with the maps and stuff^^ T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mushclient, you mean? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: or is it wanted to see the bigmap in main window in every step T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: yes, mushclient 319 i thin k T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: 956 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, was about to say that'd be a really old one T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mnmchilo Tech: anybody using blackberry?need some advise T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: and why is it always resetting everything i drag around whenever i touch the border^^ T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can always launch the version you were running before this latest download to return to the behavior you're used to, while sending a note to fiendish :-) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i was switching since the version before started to behave weird and i was not able to revert it to old behaviour T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i need very little really. i want a extra map window and a spellup script, not anything else :) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: hi? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: hi T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: using cmud and am lost...i just want to get my arrow keys to make me move in cardinal directions T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markyboy Tech: yo T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: -1 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: branduin, you cannot override the arrow key behavior in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: okay sorry to bother T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: number pad keys are often used for movement, though T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: yeah i'm on a laptop with no number pad T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: can you use the home and pgup keys? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptops without real numberpads do emulate numberpads using the Fn key T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that can get unwieldy in practice T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: yes :) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markyboy Tech: Could you tell me how to make arrow keys control my movement on the mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use ctrl-arrow keys on cmud, though...here's where I got the info on it: http://forums.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=134247 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Branduin Tech: excellent thank you T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: markyboy, go to game -> configure -> macros T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markyboy Tech: ok. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markyboy Tech: how do i set it to the up arrow etc. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, sorry, here's the info for mushclient: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9383 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Markyboy Tech: Thanks alot Abelinc T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ummm.... so after aardmush how do i turn channel prefixes T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're no longer using a client with scripts that use them, tags channels off T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats right tags T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I love tech unsavvy people. Question sent to Lifehacker: "I was curious, and haven't been able to find a definitive answer in any of my resources: If I copy data to a standard SATA hard drive, and then unplug the hard drive and store it, how long will that data remain intact? How bout on a flash drive?" T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: "How long will my data be stored without power to the hard drive?" :P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Well it is magnetically stored so... T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the hard drive T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actually a legit question, the same question holds true for floppies and other media which do not require power to store T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I suppose, regarding shelf-life. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're asking about archival quality of the media, not the necessity of power T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: What you do to your drive determines how long the data will last or stay uncorrupted T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Stick it in your freezer. It'll last longer. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei peers around himself intently. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: some of my 5 and a quarter disks are failing :( T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Very true, though I suppose I was reading it as "Will I lose my data after an hour of the hard drive not being plugged in?" T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: if it does..its a very bad hard drive T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli grins evilly. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Or an electromagnetic harddrive, which would just be stupid :/ T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: not stupid..just impractical for long term archiving T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Yes. Because: *power goes out* --> "omg 10 years of work down the drain!!" T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hard drives are electromagnetic ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: But they do not require electricity to retain their magnetic-ness :) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: moscovium is the proposed name for element 116 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: i'm trying to set up an alias to run through knossos and snag all the items to get inside. Is that allowed under the botting rules? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyone with questions? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have a question... i have a timer set to loop every 2 seconds... but i need ti to wait 3 seconds before it starts T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have tried a two timer setup, but i think i'm going to have to implement some sort of counter with mod to make it work.. am i missing something? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: offset seems not to be making it wait initially T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: umm, muschlient, right? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mush.. yes.. sorry T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so timer every 2 secos.. but with a 3 second inital delay T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: can you do temporary timers? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or do you just need a run-once 3-second timer with repeating 2-second thereafter? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can make a temporary timer that creates a permanent timer T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wrong wording T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can make a one-shot timer that then creates a temporary timer T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: better late than never, heh T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the temporary timer will not get saved T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: help! I downloaded the aardwolf mushclient yesterday and can't find it on my computer today! It's like it has vanished! T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: I know I didn't delete it T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the search feature works on computers T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinso Tech: use the search function and look for mush? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone know why bast needs a broadcast plugin, then a miniwin_quest to obtain his gmcp data and run it? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: I had it saved to my desktop T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: then you probably clicked cancel instead of save. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: need is not the right word. it's just his design. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: so I can make it fire on just gmcp data received rather than needing two plugins to do it, right? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you can, but doing it from each plugin might get a little heavy on the processing. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: its more efficient to use two plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: one to focus on the gmcp in general, and one to do whatever you were going to do with the data. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: because I'm looking at his code, and he doesn't seem to broadcast the comm.quest.timer part when a quest is requested T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: developers tend to inherently morph their styles as they learn new stuff T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: whew! found it! T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they usually don't go back and redo whatever was done before that learning was put to use. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm, do you know what he is trying to do when he does quest_info['starttime'] = GetInfo(304)? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: an info trigger? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: the rest is quest_info['mobname'] = stuff.targ, where stuff = comm.quest stuff T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: so its using gmcp data, but what does GetInfo(304) do? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: know? No, I don't use mush. If I had to guess, though, he's probably looking up a variable--probably one holding a piece of already-parsed GMCP data. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: that prob should be an alias or T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: ok, how come I cannot read the helpfiles with the Aardwolf Mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you may have the help window minimized T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I assume you're using Win Vista or Win7? The helpfile system changed to a newer HTML-like thing and the old winhelp system is not installed by default. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: I have Win 7 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: what can I do? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: download the appropriate file from Windows Update or find a different source. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: ok, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917607 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: it says that the KB917607 update is already installed on my computer. But I still cannot read the helpfiles for the mushclient. Help please? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: I followed the instructions on Nick Gammons' site for Win 7 users to get the KB917607 download for reading helpfiles T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Honestly, it's easier to just try to open up Help, let Windows 7 say 'You don't have the file, want us to go to the site for you so you can download it?' and go from there. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try restarting T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: is there a quick way to clear the command line buffer, rather than using backspace key? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ctrl-A selects all, then delete T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What client? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: down arrow, or SHIFT-HOME, or SHIFT-END, or...that T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: aardwolf mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: Dokkar, down arrow worked that way for Gmud, but it's not working that way for the Aardwolf Mushclient. Is there something that needs turned on? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: down arrow does work T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also ctrl-a does select all T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddley Tech: no, it's asking me if I want to replace what I typed with ""? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud if i want to create a alias to do something with every item in a data record list variable how do i do that? for example 5 key names in data record. I want to make alias to get each of the 5 keys T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: use #LOOPDB T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that comes with two predefined variables, %key and %val, which correspond to the appropriate part of the key-value pair T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx:) with the command name known i'll look it up on zugg site as well seems straight forward:) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why not just look it up in the helpfile? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in fact, just type the command name and move the cursor somewhere on it and press F1, it should bring up the specific page for it. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Doesn't #HELP #LOOPDB work from the command line in zMUD? I know it does in CMUD. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably, I don't really use #HELP any, though T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: doesn't seem to work:p T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I use it only to remember syntax, as %additem(s, list) and not %additem(list, s) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: tried cmud can't even find a spellup script that works:D so gave up there:P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Like I said, Davos's works. I use it. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: doesn't for me T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: casts only 1 spell T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: no matter what i do:P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud how do i set a val for all keys in a dara record? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #loopdb, #addkey dbname %key newvalue T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx:) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know what the comm.quest.completed field refers to? Is it the total number of completed quests? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I believe so T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Check it compares to the # in your whois? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: I didn't receive the quest data, I'm coding from the website T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: My script auto-erases non-essential variables after they aren't needed anymore (quest, repop, etc) so i can't say for sure. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: well in about 20min I'll test it T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I can let you know in 14 :P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, please do then =D T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud how do you check they value of a particular key in a db? for example db=test, key=1, value=1, so i want something #if key=1's value = 1, say hooray, if not say boo T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it'll probably vary based on where you're doing it in the code, but you can use ar.key and %db(ar,key) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it'll probably vary based on where you're doing it in the code, but you can use @var.key and %db(@var,key) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: http://forums.imperian.com/index.php?showtopic=7257 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx i'll check it out:D T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Looked light it might be what you wanted, just looked through google. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: cheez, did you get the data? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lol, no -- it's sittin at 0 qt :P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: lol ok T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: questing now T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: "completed": 5801 T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's total completed :) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks a lot! T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: is there a way in zmud to use #addjey to add a key with multiple words? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in ZMud, if you wish to group multiple words into one argument you need to use some sort of bracketing. "this phrase" "%1" {@variable_with_a_multiple_word_value} T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it mostly doesn't matter which bracketing type you use. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx:) T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: once thing i had to work out was which word to use in a multi-word mob T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that said, using multiple words or certain symbols in a variable name will limit your reference choices a bit. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even though ZMud (and CMud) allows you to do it, it's usually best to stay with simple names T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nah this is a case of needing multiple keywords for an item so that i don't get something with 1 same keyword, much less likely to have something with all same keywords T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in this case all the keys are items of mud and value is to determine if i have it T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: right, but if you have a key of "an interesting item", you can't do @varname."an interesting item" so anywhere you might need/want to do that you'd have to use %db() instead T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: is it weird that the gmcp comm.quest info doesn't include the amount of gold you earn from that quest? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nods tested with 1 guess lucky i picked %db:P T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I thought it did? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: not according to the website T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, it does. comm.quest.gold. T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, not on the website though T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: is anyone having trouble getting gmcp data in clan rooms? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: it doesn't even give me a room name T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: what is the function for a plugin that runs upon startup? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how do i reset the mush map for an area? T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: mapper purge zonename T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: there is a command to list zones. lasertwo is lasertag arena T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: the commands are listed in mapper help T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: ooo, cool T3/r3/2011-06-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: any idea how i can change fonts in muschlient? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: mushclient(sp) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_main_output_font? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: in mushclient, is there some way to change CTRL-R as repeat last command? Would love to have enter on blank line as repeat .. CTRL-R is giving me RSI :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can set it to 'save' the last command on the command line T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: which leads to hillarity imo :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: which leads to hillarity imo :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko smiles. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Karzon laughs at Mieko mercilessly. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Only if you're sloppy T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko looks guilty. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: didn't find that setting but I found the numpad settings had some empty fields .. stun on 7 and recall on 9 ! :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Can you program the mapper to open a door that is not passdoorable, so you can mapper runto through it? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, with a cexit T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Slick, so... mapper cexit op n T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper cexit open north;;north T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't define custom exits that don't go anywhere, so you have to include the movement T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ahh nod nice, got to use 2 of the apostraphe's in the syntax for the mapper as well? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: semicolons T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: i tried to type that but i only used one T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nod, so use 2x semi colon when entering the custom exit? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: doubling up on the semicolons indicates that you don't want the input processor to parse them out into line breaks T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: similar to doubling @ T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Slick, tks Fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: might actually win some gqs now, if I can take the time away from grinding to explore and program the exits T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not hard to win gqs without a mapper T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nod, havent done all that many CPs, and im relatively a noobie :p Some day im sure ill be better. Gonna redo some cps sooner or later. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: any other questions before I leave? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Cant program it to kill a mob to get a key can ya o.O T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not legally T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Last thing, how many seperate commands can you enter into a cexit? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: mapper cexit op n;n;n;n ? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as many as will fit in 2 seconds T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: cool tks again, cya around. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eventually I'll make a proper interface for editing them so that you're not bound by the 2 second limit T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nice T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: think it would be legal to runto the key mob, and message yourself keymob name, or something? automated of course? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: if you want to do it slick, runto key mob, load a button bar that will kill mob when acctivated T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you want to completely bot within the rules, make a button that you click that takes you to the mob then you click again to kill it, then click again to go to the next mob. it's legal, but if I had a way to nuke everyone who does it I would T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: ^ Yeah! T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imo gqs should be done without any scripts T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just don't have the power to force people to use raw telnet T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Think im a bit away from being able to pull that off :p T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I agree with your point Fiendish, but the underlying issue is that global quests are flawed to where the best scripter wins. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I agree T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I wasnt gonna upgrade to the mapper, but then T0s with 300 hours starting beating me.... was forced to. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd like to see some mental effort required to win. like answering riddles to get the mob names, or having to figure out which mobs to kill based on descriptions other than their names, etc T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: something that can't be trivialized by code T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: capcha codes to challeng the scripters :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: an interesting thought T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I've seen text captchas T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: My idea... which nobody likes... when the GQ starts make all the GQ mobs spawn in random rooms within their areas. On repop spawn again in a random room. So you have to actually where mob, then runto. Instead of just mob runto. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: sure it could be automated too.. but might be slightly harder/slower. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: that'd be easy to implement to T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eh. that's still easy to script and would take only a second or so longer per mob T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: if mob spanwed in pita room, would make a bit more random chance to the GQ T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: like in a AQ room or w/e T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: might see a player with 2k gq wins, actually loose once in a while ^^ T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe all gq mobs should entrap their rooms T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: fun, except all the nopk players >< T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a problem T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Should add a 2nd GQ cycle for PK players only.... so its a benefit + PK fun :p T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make all gq mobs immune to every damage type except one chosen at random T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: buahaha, thats just evil :p T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Give every area a random repop maze T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: I'd die T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: handicap people with 4 digit global quest wins to give others a chance :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: your telling me, cant get this last maze room in gnomalin for the last 10 mins. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They just need to do something about the script kiddies. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Though at this point, regarding script kiddies, I suspect the solution is 'if you can't beat them, join them' T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: limit command speed while in global quest would help a bunch. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nod T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The half second lag on failed kill just hurts non scripters imo. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: the agro thing is funny T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I thought the half second thing was aimed towards PKrs spamming attack T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ahh someone who has a trigger attack... T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't like the aggro thing T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Aggro thing? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If someone is deliberately tying up a GQ mob to help a friend, they should just get an imm ass-whipping. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Oh that. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But this is a discussion for debate channel T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Funny if the agro thing kills someone on accident, just about to quaff.... and bam boom :p T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No one! T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i need help T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: At least not until you actually ask your question. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dear Madam, you are beyond help. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: usually i using a pendrive to boot up a software ,after i have brought a new pendive this function dont seem it works out T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm. Maybe there's something nasty in its partition table? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What kind of OS do you run on that pendrive? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: and how it doesn't work? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: can't copy stuff into it or they won't launch? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: its vyatta.using olpc.fth to boot ,i think so T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: any clue? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: When I can't boot something, it's usually because the partition doesn't have an "active" or "boot me!" flag. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Some BIOSes look for those and complain that I have nothing bootable. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: what shd i do T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: are you trying to launch apps from the stick or boot an os? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: launch apps from the stick T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: disregard what Cizra said then T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: this new pendrive doesnt seem work out,but the old one it does T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: and what doesn't work? can't copy stuff into it or the apps won't launch? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i do copy the ISO using the live usb creator...but it wont auto boot up T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: but my old pen drive it work out boot correctly..i wonder why T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renras Tech: How do I create a portable mushclient? So far, I've edited the prefs sqlite file to remove paths to my home folder and replace them with ., and added all my plugins. Is that it? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have a copy on my flashdrive and it works. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download from aard's site...it's portable already and has buttloads of plugins for aard already T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renras Tech: I don't want one for aard, I want a general one. Decided to come here since the aard people seem to know because they've already done it T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Aardwolf Package with Bast's plugins dropped into the plugins folder works well as a portable. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renras Tech: I write a few screen reader plugins, and I thought I could just pre-package it so people don't have to go through all the work to install them. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's is fine as a general one as well T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Renras: Have you spoken with WinkleWinkle. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renras Tech: Nope, who's that? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not writing them for aard, turie, we just have better experts ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast used to have a page on how to make a portable mush, but iirc that was before the prefs were sqlite T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renras Tech: i JUST FOUND A WIKI ARTICLE, READING IT NOW T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the world file in an editor to see what paths it has in it T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: OK, something real annoying just happened. My keypad doesn't do anything involving movement anymore. I'm using the new Aardmush, and trying to go north just shows my previous commands. Any way to fix this? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hit numlock. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: turn your numlock back on. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: numlock T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: I think numlock too :) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Num num num num. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: lock lock lock lock. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: hit hit hit hit T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas goes, 'Nom nom nom'. What's he eating? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli goes, 'Luck luck luck'. What's he gambling? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Hmm... Oh. rofl. Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie cheers Ebullient Etzli on, saying 'Go Go Power Ranger!' T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's the cheapest/easiest way for me to get Windows7? I don't mean pirating...Craigslist license? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: find a used/defect pc that came with a license and move it to your comp? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: if you're a college student you can get a license for cheap that way T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: or free from the academic alliance, depending on the school T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: I'm trying to create a simple alias to use the cexit command and it's not working. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: my output is showing up from the alias as mapper cexit direction;direction T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: but it's still saying unknown command. Any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I am not familiar with it, but I've seen people giving examples using 2 semicolons T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: send to script T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: never made a script before. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: no, under 'send to', select script T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are you trying to internally set an alias, i.e. use xxxxxxx ? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think 'execute' should do the job too, that's what I've used...the 'send to' dropdown on the alias screen T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: through mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use execute for mapper commands T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sommeil nods. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: execute worked. Thank you T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: yup works fine too.. doesn't break so easily :P T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: By default, 'send to' is set to send it straight to the mud, bypassing the parser, if you set it to 'execute' it parses the alias output, allowing it to call other aliases T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: gotcha T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: anyone know if the mush mapper will use client variables for things like portals? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: suppose I could test it.. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: but has anyone tried it? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It will use variables as long as said variables are called by a clientside alias programmed for the portal T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it will use them fine T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I've been trying to figure out how to use mapper commands to populate variables T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thanks bast T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: and xaxz T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but what xaxz said is correct T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: so I need to make it call an alias T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: and then it works fine T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for portals I have an alias "port *" that gets the portal from my ortalbag;wears it;then puts it back when done, so that is how I do portals T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: @portalbag that is T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thats a good idea T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i do mine liek bast too T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: anytime you can reuse code snippets its a win T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Not to self: don't let big files of movies build up before you try and move them to external drive T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there an equivalent to mv via ssh? Ie, there's scp for cp, but can i /move/ the files, not copy them. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: On a linux machine, fyi T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: scp T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I can read. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, if you're using ssh, then the command is mv :P T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Sorry. No, I dont' think there is. rsync MAY do it, but... I've never tried honestly. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That copies it, i don't see a switch in man scp that removes original T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sathre Tech: ssh machine "mv /one/place /to/the/other" ? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I want to move a file from this machine, to the ssh'd machine. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sathre Tech: That's not moving, that's copying. You probably want copying and then locally deleting, which is scp and rm. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is two entirely separate transactions (even when using mv) T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Sathre. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I can do that, it's just a pain T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sathre Tech: Moving only happens locally between mounted filesystem. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm moving a HUGE set of files over, so i need to wait for it to finish to rm T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sez who you do? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: moving only happens within a mounted filesystem. move has no meaning across volumes T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is specifically a file system operation T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you don't need to wait for the entire copy to finish before you rm, because you don't have to rm all at once T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I started doing that, but it's a annoying singleing out the files, because for some reason scp isn't going in any apparent order T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 70->159->139->132, etc T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't see why that matters T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Because if i just wait for it to finish i can rm -rf and delete the whole directory, instead of *070*.mk, *159*.mk, etc T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make a shell script T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or you could use sshfs and then do mv T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or put the whole thing into an archive first T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, i did for the next directory, but this one's already 1/2 done. might at well wait. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it is archived :P T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I see the 4 names you listed, I'd say it's reverse-alphabetical order T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember that computer files are alpha, not numeric...70 is later than 159 T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's what you get for not 0 padding your numbers T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it is padded T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 070.mkv, 150.mkv T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: etc T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's not what you said :P T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I just said the overall numbers for that part :P I showed the 0s on the rm statement i said :P T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess he indicated on the next line T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valynn Tech: has anybody tried out the mush client on smart phones... T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use mush on my iphone via remote desktop T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What is the app for remote desktop? Is is third party? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use mocha rdp T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's pretty good T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i just finished a campaign on my iphone.. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so it can be done.. it's pretty slow going at times though T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so how long was the phone call? :P T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks, I was looking for an alternative to hauling out my laptop to access my remote windows box. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I make MUSHClient display entered commands again? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: echo commands T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's the server side technique. I need mushclient to echo the commands again T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I get mushclient to echo the commands that I type? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: For this, I can't use echocommands... T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a trip through Preferences is probably in order... T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ... Eh I cant find it in global preferences. Am I missing something? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: dunno, only thing I know is that the old aardmush could do it and I see no reason why Nick or Fiendish or whomever would remove it. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: press alt enter, look under inpu T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... Commands do echo, but I can't see them! T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... Commands do echo, but I can't see them! T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: could it be that a plugin is gagging the input? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Attention! Attention, everyone, I just wanted to say that I have just been inspired to create my next new fun-script. T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: A porn auto-downloader? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a good program to "lockdown" a system, and a decent free webguard system to prevent another user on my system from going to any website they want? T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: The big ON/OFF button on the front works for me... T3/r3/2011-06-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Sorry Hadar, I actually have no idea :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud ansi colour coding this is yellow: Yellow what colour is this: this colour T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: aard @Y and @y T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: dull yellow? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 6 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mellow T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't use the color names, I just use the numbers T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: colour names make it less confusing for later:P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: E.g. %ansi(6) will turn the text this color T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx:) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: btw, I wasn't serious there T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Quick question about lua if/then programming. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: will try 6 then no other option if i can't find it name:P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the colorname is brown T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Can you have multiple if conditions that must be met without nesting ifs? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: names make colors more confusing in my opinion T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Use and T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yes T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: use and T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So if a == 3 and b ==5 then ... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: true is alot of colours present T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Jhav. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: What I figured, just wanted to be sure. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: with only like 10 colours max it's for me easier to use names at least T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if (this==1 and that=='Yes' and third=3) then T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: actually, there are 16 ansi colors T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there are more than 10 colors with names in ZMud T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can also change background color, e.g. %ansi(30) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: one of the color commands has a list of all supported colornames T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: chartreuse? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: does it need the parens, Cheez? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's best T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Don't use ANSI colors myself, but MUSH gives me a list of names with the colors... goldenrod, cornsilk, etc, is that what you're after? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Parenthesis prevent unexpected results T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Right. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And help you understand what you wrote a year ago :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: To some degree, vakieh :P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Comments help more with that than parenthesis do. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Its all good T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Putting it around the entire condition of the if statement doesn't do anything. It's a 'to taste' kind of thing. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Comments are only for people that cannot write readable code. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh boggles at the concept. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Or like me, try and read what i did while high. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Be like, wtf...was i...thinking here?! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: As a bonus, comments you write while high are likely to be hilarious. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: self-documenting code + comments = understanding T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: pretty sure thought wasn't involved. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Meh, my technical comments don't get funny when i'm high T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Found one in production code the other day - "I'm sick and tired of the error messages this gives me, so I've hidden the prompt" T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Uni campus student run networks ftw :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Lua supports nested if/then trees, yes? Provided you use endif properly? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use elseif iirc T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: yeah, elseif T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, lots of plugins use nested ifs as well as elseifs T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dread Lord Morinon nods at you in agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: This is a case where it's much easier just to nest another if. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an either/or thing...nested if does something totally different than elseif T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: If elseif worked well here, I'd use that. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: elseif is just a nested if in the else block - there's no functional difference T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can swap your if/else blocks by reversing your conditional logic T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there is functional difference if you're not in an else block... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot just reverse conditional logic if you have multiple secondaries per primary... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm no lua expert, but it's built on c, so I assume just if(!.....) would do it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if(not(...)) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: IF(code makes head hurt)THEN(write nonsense code)ELSE(write nonsense code anyway)END IF T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Can't use caps in Lua T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's case sensitive so all the things salv wrote in caps, uncap them T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Also, end if -> end T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: What I have is: IF(Primary condition) THEN (IF(Secondary condition) THEN(stuff) ELSE (other stuff)) ELSE (otherstuff) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You don't do 'end if' in Lua anyways, just 'end'. That looks more like vbscript. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Also, have the write case. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: er, right. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Dread Lord Morinon. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: If(MAKES NO SENSE)Then(FLAIL HELPLESSLY)End If T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So lua terminates with keywords, not braces - {} ??? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if(this)then(do_this)elseif(this)end T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You forget the then on your elseif T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Vakieh. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: can't you use and? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ah, elsif then() T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas 's coding is stuck in highschool programming, Visual Basic. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I knew it :P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Looks like it, Salv :P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh convulses as he shudders in disgust. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Still, I orginally learnt in QBasic :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas nods at Vakieh. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Goto line number ftw!!! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Add a comment line to top of program = break everything :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Best achievement we had was writing a prog to disable Ctrl-Alt-Del, and force a system reboot. Then dropping it in Startup on the room network. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: ... though I think we learnt more from Google and "dubious" websites, than from the class syllabus... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, classes? No, I learnt from the Nibble program that shipped with Windows 3.0 :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I believe it was pre-Google, also - I had AltaVista and AskJeeves... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Ah, the young days of the internet... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: A moment of silence, please, for webcrawler. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: I started on 3.1, and Netscape+ Eudora. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I still remember my primary school computer teacher humming the dial noises in time to the modem :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: You had internet in primary school?? I had an old 486 with DOS and floppy disks with EGA games... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: DOS bootup disks, that is. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Don't get me started... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: One computer had it - 16k modem, and we used to play rogue on it :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Dangerous Dave ftw. oh, and Golden Axe. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Simcity original T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And PRINCE OF PERSIA!!! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas enthusiastically high-fives Vakieh! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: meh, i used to load games from a cassette tape T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Alley Cat, hours of pointless fun. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hypercard, anyone? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apolly rapidly nods twice at Vakieh, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: ick, mac stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Yes, please. I've since gotten a degree in CS, and I *still* want someone to write a FOSS HC-like. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also like original Myst T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: (The very first version of which was, itself, a HC stack.) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exactly T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Anybody here remember The Manhole? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, glanced up to see HC..."Bill sez" :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: So, while messing with Bast's cp miniwindow in a failed attempt to make it fit the way I wanted, I.. set the layer to 1 and it seems to have disappeared entirely. I tried reinstalling the plugin, but nothin'.. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: try 'miniwin_events reset' T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sorry, mev, not miniwin_evets T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any good? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rascally Ryke shakes his head. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It give you a message or anything? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Ah.. wait. Now a window is popping up with the mev command. Hm.. will check this out, thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try mev help for more info T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: After being distracted by a GQ, I've fiddled around with the miniwin_events plugin. Which was working fine until I, once again, messed with a setting and now it's.. gone. Resetting does nothing. >.< T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: anyone had much experience with boost? I'm kind of curious what use people have found for fusion. some of it looks kind of cool, but... T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Heck, I even managed to make the 'mev' command stop working until I restarted mushclient.. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: has anyone noticed that gmcp.quest.action is stuck in "warning"? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's just you. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sure, I just reach out and change the server data. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, you said 'stuck in warning.' You didn't specify while on a quest. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: quest.action for me shows comp. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: so does mine once I am done. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And status shows ready. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: but while the quest is in progress the action reports warning. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: which makes the code think that the quest is running out of time. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: this is about 3 days old, before it correctly reported "status". T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: about the time of the reboot? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the action tells you what is going on, ready means you are ready to ask for a quest. Once you ask for the quest action takes over. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I don't know when the reboot was. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: realtime T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: my screen has been flashing a warning message each quest since Sunday. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the timing is about right, but I didn't see any changes to gmcp.quest on the log. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: There is a new warning message. *shrug* T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Maybe if you read announce boards, you'd know more. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: so that means everyone but me has changed their interpretation of action and stutus since a change to those fields was announced. thank you. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Never said anyone changed anything. I said there was a new warning message. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the only mention of gmcp in the log is a change to char.base. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I never said anything was made to gcmp quest. I said there was a new warning message. Plain and simple. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: warning about what? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Good lord, it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Just an updated 'better hurry' message, as said clearly in the Announce note :P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I am telling you that while a quest is in progress action says warning and you tell that it is explained on announce. I tell you there is nothing about gmcp.quest on announce. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, there's no change to GMCP. It's just a new warning message, like the ones that say "You're almost out of time for you quest" T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, but I AM TALKING ABOUT GMCP, NOT A SERVER MESSAGE. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Anaristos: Logic would dictate that perhaps the change in the warning message created a bug that failed to update the gmcp quest properly, which is why I pointed out. You said nothing was made to gmcp quest, yet there was a change made to 'quest' in general. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: amazing T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I dunno etz, the change didn't cause my GMCP script any harm T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I do something for every action stated on the specs T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: including an action that is not documented, which I just log. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Perhaps you should document that action on the wiki. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: "an action" , any action for which there is no documentation. Thus far, I haven't run into any. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I guess I should be grateful that my warning code got tested, I never had the heart to let the quest timer run down long enough to check it out. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: how would i map the cexit in sandcastle 'i wish to see the genie...the delay in the mobprog makes it fail T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fiendish has it as a 'coming soon' feature T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Create an alias, and use the cexit for that. In that alias, you can do a wait. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's what I use in CMUD, anyway. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's not the waiting, but the 2 seconds you have between command->arrival for the mapper to work T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's the waiting. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You wait anyway, but the mapper checks your location after 2 seconds, finds you haven't moved yet, and rejects your cexit T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Anaristos, it's just you, by the way. My quest.action correctly shows 'start' T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ah, wait, I see what you're referring to now. It's after you've killed a quest mob. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: about quest.action .. I ran into a similar problem a while back .. quest.action was out fo sync in the plugin with what was happening in mud .. Unlike Anaristos I just reinstalled/restarted and ignored the problem :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I don't use a plug-in. I use cmud and process the data off the gmcp triggers. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: more like a coming eventually feature T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will not be in the next release T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because the next release will be imminent T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there a hack for the meantime? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only if you're comfortable with modifying the database manually T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Let's assume no... :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then I suspect not T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So no way to access the 2 seconds variable then? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: comfortable with modifying the mapper script and just changing the 2 secs to 5 secs? :p T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are a lot of features that I haven't yet added, because I want to stop adding new features before the next official release, and I'm already really pushing it with a change I just made to mapper backups T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh yeah. there's that T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I haven't modified any of the scripts in MUSH yet - would accessing the script file while MUSH is closed then starting it up again cover it? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just reinstall the plugin T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or would I need to reinstall the plugin or something? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: plugins are reinstalled when you start mush as well T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just ctrl-f wait.time T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plugins get reinstalled when you start mushclient, so that works, but you can also modify the plugin file while mushclient is open and then reinstall the plugin after saving T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, I'll start digging - I assume it is a constant :-P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Good man T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but while you can create the cexit that way, it won't help you if you try to runto some room after it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because the mapper assumes cexits are instant T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is technically a way around that T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I really want it for long trips to key merchants T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you define a script prefix, you might be able to execute a one-shot timer with doafterspecial T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as part of a cexit T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I haven't tried it, though T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess it would take a lot of thought to maybe make it work in the context of a speedwalk T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it may not be possible T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: short way is to do something that causes gameside like, like cexit say blah;; c heal T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: indeed T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I throw a couple of looks, it seems to work fine T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For some others where a wait is required T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Desert Prison comes to mind T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case, I do plan to add a way to more robustly add cexits T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I need to slow down the rate of adding new features when I'm trying to make an official release T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Gotta love the feature creep :-) In any case I found the variable to change, so I'm all set T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't mind adding features T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd just rather do it after getting the release out of the way T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Always hard when it's effectively a one-man shop T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: q i T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: I have no idea how I did that. Mis! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You typed 'tech' first, that's how you did that. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm generally happy to accept code contributions from other people, as long as it fits within my vision for what I do and don't want the client package to be T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Yeah, but I wasn't planning on saying anything on tech that I can remember. So I'm baffled. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: could be an early sign of schitzophrenia T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: I don't think fiendish can fix it, so enough on this channel. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: ok, here is what happens: when the quest start we have "action": "start", "status": "ready", "timer": 47. After two minutes: "action": "warning", "status": "ready", "time": 45, T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I do think if you idle for say 1min or so with just a channel name in the input bar, it would be nice if it could clear that channel name (optional of course) - could eliminate a whole lot of mis T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: I had the warning fire as well, even though I was nowhere near running out of time T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Is that "after two minutes" after you've killed your quest mob? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: no, I just idle for two minutes to see what happens. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Etz, I had that one second after I requested a quest T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Apparently it happens after you've killed your quest mob, too. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: the warning fired, and I don't know why T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I was checking mine the last time, didn't get it until afterwards. :p T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: stop talking and post a note about it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: He already did. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have action warning now without having killed my quest mob T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: right, as soon as the timer is updated it goes to warning. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone make use of the comm.quest where action="status"? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: I have a few questions about that T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lol. check this out before they take it down: http://www.blackbergsecurity.us/Home T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: wow they got hacked lol T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: They put out a contest for someone to do it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't seem like a proper contest tho T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't seem that they actually expected someone to do it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: what's wrong with the aard google code download? I downloaded the version from the site, and it is already "obsolete" :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: hey mad, do you know about comm.quest for gmcp? like if I request for it to be sent, the action will be "status", but will most of the fields be null? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Nocens: If you want the newest snapshop ("beta") version, see mudinfo note 1241 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Or just finger Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fuzzy Madcatz shrugs in response to Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu's question. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: No idea T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is funny. Someone hacked the website and changed the image and moved on. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: so it's not automatically uploaded on the aardwolfclientpackage site? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Nope, it's not T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: But doesn't mean the one on the website is necessarily "obsolete" T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: that's why I used the quotes :) by obsolete I mean getting the suggestion to download a new one T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: this is a design issue, since the update plugin actually sends me to the aardclientpackage google code site (where the download is the older version) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: the google code site is the new verson T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: r992 is the newest T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: no it isn't. it keeps telling me I have r956, and download it from there. which I did :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: is there a command to check the current release? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I mean the one currently running? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: There's a file AardwolfPackageChanges.txt in your main mushclient folder T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: You're supposed to be able to type checkversion, I thought, but it doesn't seem to work in r956 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: last update in that file is r956 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: brb, downloading it again :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: The revision numbers on the google code page get updated for stuff as simple as a change to the wiki, I believe. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: So yours might not be "out of date", even if it's not the latest revision T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: But the latest revision on the google code (r992) was 16 hours ago T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: solved. I think my Chrome might have been caching it (which is strange, since it actually did download the file each time), I downloaded it with IE and seems the right package T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: is anyone well versed in the gmcp values of comm.quest? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know which file the mapper plugin stores it's portal references in? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: they are on the wiki Kuro T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Sinnamon I know, I need more information than that though T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know why my output is stalling until I send an input? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: maybe you're selecting something on the output screen T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: my HTC Thunderbolt is constantly making me force close the Messaging app, what can I do to fix this? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: i was actually just looking at picking one up, what do you think of it... well besides the fc's :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: biggest issue with the HTC thunderbolt is the junk that Verizon installs that cannot be removed T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I hate that, too. Sommeil I love the speed and the 4G LTE is noticeable. It's a gorgeous phone with amazing picture quality and speed, but the battery life is about 5 hours. I have to keep it charged at home and at work. I've had it for 3 months and I've completely lost power 4 times. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I heard there's a massive send buffer that may be giving erroneously high uplink speeds T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: but most people don't push from their phones anyways :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea, I haven't pushed once T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: looks like a good phone, but I have to have a keyboard T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: ok so I have a question I'm hoping someone might be able to help with. I'm interested in using the mapper in conjunction with portals. I've read and reread the mapper help in the portals section and as many times as I've read, for some odd reason I'm utterly failing to understand it. so is it saying you can set up a portal alias to use in conjunction with the runto command? or is it for some other purpose, and if that's the case, what purpose is it used for? sorry this is long-winded. so I have a portal alias, to where I can type portal ... and it gets the specified portal out of my aard bag, equips it, enters it, seconds my dual wield weapon, and puts the portal back in the aard bag. would I be able to use that portal alias with the mapper to be able to runto an area more efficiently? or am I completely off the mark here? :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: Mieko, when you turn it sideways the keyboard is huge. the predictive text dictionary is really good T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I've not figured out the portal bit yet Kyriantha :( T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kyriantha: yes, you can use an alias for a portal T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: here is one of mine from mapper portals: | 12 | darklight | Among the Stars | 19643 | port 'orb star' | 85 | T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: so I'm assuming the "port 'orb star'" is your portal alias? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: ok cool so when you do rt darklight it uses your portal instead of actually speedwalking there? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Kyriantha, the ingame runto command doesn't use the mapper navigation. The only coded method of utilizing portals with the mapper is using the "mapper find" and "mapper area" to travel to a specific room. However, there are ways to use the "mapper goto" command to travel around as well, though I don't believe those will be put into the mainstream release of it. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what xaxz said T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: To do a generic travel to an area using the mapper will require an additional script. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: ok so then what's the purpose of using the mapper portals thing? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: faster mapper runtos? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: oh. wait so it does runto an area using the portal? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kyriantha is very confused about her life, 'Why are we here?, What do we do?, Am I an addict?' T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, currently, if you get a quest in the "Castle Courtyard" room, just do "mapper find castle courtyard" When you click that link, if a portal will yield a shorter trip, it will be used. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: yes, if you used the mapper commands for the runto T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mapper find "room", then when you click on the room, if there is a portal in the path, it will use it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: oh. oh oh oh. I think I get it. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: While there's some gurus on - not a q from me, but Bast your quest miniwin plugin currently crashes if you linkdead during a quest, and then reconnect - is there any known fix for this? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: what portal do you have on you that you can register now? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: I have a ton. :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the aard portal? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: try 'mapper find dragon peak' T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vakieh: since this is the first I heard of it, then I don't think there is, can you put in an issue at http://bastmush.googlecode.com T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i have the mapper and it takes me 2 moves to get there T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: so can you define a container for your portals? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: you'd need to make an alias I think T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, will do. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in the alias for "port", I have 'get "portal" ortalbag', and I set portalbag to the correct bag num T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Sommeil, just create an alias that does "get ;wear portal;enter;dual ;put " T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in the alias for "port", I have 'get "portal" @portalbag', and I set portalbag to the correct bag num T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The other q that came up before was how gmcp handles request where the responses have a varying number of fields - does anyone know whether gmcp will send a null in these cases for the fields that don't get sent T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in lua, it it isn't sent, it will be nil T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OK, so attempting to work with a field that isn't sent in a particular request isn't going to crash the plugin, assuming one tests for null/nil - I'll pass that on T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Correct, as long as you test for nil, it should be fine T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Good stuff - Kuro will be pleased to hear that :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Arrgggh my aliases are send AS WELL as the what is in the SEND field in the alias maker dialog T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: (mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: My mushclient seems to be breaking down... Triggers dont work not :( T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: now* T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: you checked the keep evaluating box? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... Wow! I didn't know that! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat thanks Exorcist Jerome heartily. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a function in mush for putting somethingk homer T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a function in mush for putting something in the command box.. but no executing it? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Lol wtf kill homer T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh homer is gunna get it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat :P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: you have voices in your head too? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: WinkleWinkle... simple solution: Don't hit enter. *blink* T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Then you can put as much as you want in a command box, but it'll never execute it. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tech that would involve me typing it.. i want a function to type for me T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but not.. execute it T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: best I can think of is to have it put in a variable T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I love Wikipedia - led me to this interesting, but useless, fact - In rural UK and South Africa - it's faster to send data via USB stick and carrier pigeon then to send it over the internet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8248056.stm & http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11325452 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: rofl T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bah. Try loading a bandwagon full of DVDs. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: For MUDding you need low latency, not high bandwidth. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: So I normally run tintin++. I just tried the aardclient. I'm back on tintin. And all my channel messages have {chan ch=barter} and such in front of them. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Anyone know how to disable that? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: tags off T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: tags off T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tags off to turn off all tags T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Thank you kindly. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or type tags channels off to just turn those parts off T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: tag chan off T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: do not type tags off! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: or tag channels off T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winklewinkle, nothing wrong with typing tags off T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: well if you aren't using them for anything it's pretty safe T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I'm not. At least not at the moment. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: WTF abe? you were here for the fiendish chewout of '11 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish's objections are when you're still actually using a client that makes use of them T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i object to tags off T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tharnin, there are some tt++ scripts that use tags (talk to cheezburger) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: he objects to something speciifc T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: mush has an init to turn them back on anyway T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, your objections are baseless T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the command exists expressly to be used T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: baseless.. good argument T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tags off is the best way to turn them off temporarily T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: don't use tags off as it will kill nearly all of your plugins.. hows that? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since tags off keeps track of which ones were on & which ones were not...so tags on will return them to the way you want them T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winklewinkle, it won't kill your plugins when you aren't running a client that has plugins T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: gq p T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you connect using telnet from a public PC, tags off is a great command...when you get home and fire up MUSHclient, tags will be on again and everything works flawlessly T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yes, your objection was 100% baseless :-) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: yeah, it's better to turn them all off if you need to than turn one by one T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: at least you'll have all the tags you need on the next time you type tags on T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i had missed the inital premise of his question as i was gqing.. i was wrong.. i'm sorry.. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desarae Tech: I need some help with a mush issue - I have a plugin that I installed, which is no longer working. For some reason, I can't uninstall it, because it's not showing in the plugin list. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What is the plugin? What's it do? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desarae Tech: it's a statreporter off of nick gammon's forum site. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: if it's not listed, first thing I'd try would be to install it. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desarae Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/Aardwolf/Aardwolf_Attributes_ReportLUA.xml T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desarae Tech: I tried that, and it fails because it already exists. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: it might be listed under a name differnet from the xml name T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm It may be for an older version of MUSHClient T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tech you could deelte the file from your \worlds\plugins\ dir T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desarae Tech: Vale - all the plugins that are listed are the default plugins. This was my first attempt at an extra plugin. :( T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desarae Tech: WinkleWinkle - how would I get there? Is it just in the main mushclient folder? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Are thes e mushclient timestamps a plugin or a mistake? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mistake == feature T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Desarae Tech: Ok, not sure what I did, but I did something and it showed up in the plugin window, so it's removed now. Thanks anyway. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ostanes Tech: Can you add doors to the mapper so that it knows to open them in the middle of a speedwalk? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mapper cexit open w;;w T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: mapper cexit open east; T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: yes. mapper cexit o n;;n or whatever T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: err what they said T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle enthusiastically high-fives Kyriantha! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle sends Vale across the dance floor. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i needed 4 ; and only put 2 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i mean 3 T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ostanes Tech: Awesome, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: thanks, I've done my first custom exit :) T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: tomorrow is World IPv6 Day. Wooo! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The world is going to end! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: in regexp, what's the difference between .+ and .* T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: .* does 0 or more, + does 1 or more, I think. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I forget, to be honest. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's correct T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: thanks muchly T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I thought + repeated the previous item once more T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Nope. :P T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Whee! Facebook is now doing facial recognition, so when Facebook "recognises" me in another picture, a friend (or maybe some random stranger...) can tag me instantly! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: You mean skynet. T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Must destroy the T2000 then I can become the Governator and steal all of Californias money! T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What's the CMUD equivalent of indexing? In tt++ if i wanted to access an array, say index of 'heal' in my potions variable, i would do $potion[heal], how would i do that in CMUD? T3/r3/2011-06-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you can use @potions.heal or %db(otions,heal) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: anybody using tt++? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I do. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: is there a fund we can donate to, I always like to help out the needy :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Witch King Sammael falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: 10 tt users online. We have three of 'em. Where are the other 7 handsome/lovely and talented people/ T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I know most of them, and most of them are afk :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: how come this doesn't trigger? http://pastebin.com/5nnQ2JDv T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin falls down laughing. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I suppose that shouldn't surprise me, huh? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: use spelltags instead, for one T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: the action in line 3 works fine by itself... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Tell tags are better T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: but somehow with the foreach, it doesn't trigger T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You can tell wether you have the spell, if it's a buff, etc, all from the tag. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: what's a telltag? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: help spelltags T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: oh, I see stuff built into the mud already T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yup T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I found your script emporium... but your dyndns domain is down :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, network issues T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Should be up soonish T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Some google cache finesse can get you to it, I think. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What's a router's typical private IP? If it's modem->router->computer setup? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: 192.168.1.1, generally. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: .1 or .2 for the router? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: .1. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: wouldn't .1 be the modem itself? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Not that I've ever seen. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: traceroute somewhere outside. The last private IP you see should be your router. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: sometimes it's 192.168.0.1 for the modem T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: or something else altogether T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: anyway... the action/trigger thing works fine outside of that foreach T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: if it isnt then? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: last one i see is all black unknown T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: my modem is 192.168.100.1 for example T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko uploads viruses 192.168.100.1 to hack Mcmartin! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: if you're on a windows box, you can do 'route print 0.0.0.0' T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: and it'll show your default route T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: anyway... I see... the %1 gets parsed as a param to the alias T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: figured it out myself T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: works now T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh, duh T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You needed another %, right? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: see it? I changed it to %%1 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: yup T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with what client? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I hate those errors, i look over them all the time T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: tintin++ T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tt++ T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: heh, i could have cf put mine off the masaki site :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Where can I download the lastest version of Mush? Like... 4.73 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: finger Fiendish, follow his link T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Shouldn't I like.. .Ask his permission before just randomly fingering :| T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu laffs. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no, just get his website T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: doubt his minds, everyone does it. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I supposed he'd be used to the violation by now. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Thanx for the help T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: The first mud I played, there was no whois.. only finger. And there was also an 'ffinger' social to flip people off. Yeah.. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Just a random question. How do I make my computer stop saying Virtual Memory too low? ... O.o Or is my pc just crap T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Increase the size of your paging file T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Increase the size of your paging file T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Close some apps. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: 1 sledge hammer, alot of aggresion, and safety goggles. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Stop downloading so much porn. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: As much I would love the sledge hammer idea. I dont think my boss will appreciate it. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: just include the boss in the equation :p T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hit your boss with the sledgehammer. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: How do I increase my paging file O.o T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: You guys have the best ideas :D T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: get AVG PC tuneup T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I think I'll mention you as accomplises in my murder trial T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it's a work computer, just get someone else to fix it. Pretend you don't understand anything about computers. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: AVG tuneup freeware? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Control panel, memory or something like it... should be an option to increase pagefile size under there somewhere. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Google works wonders, also. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Hah. in this office, i know the most about computers. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Yes. It has a trial version of 2 days. Does wonders T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nice to kow T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: know even* T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, just tell your boss your computer is broken. How can he say otherwise. :/ T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I bet if I put windows 97 on this thing it will run like a dream T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Btw, do the job properly and there will be no murder trial. You want to pin the blame on someone else you don't like. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Ew, Windows 97. 95 was much better. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: 3.1 ftw :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: 98 rullz them both T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ms-dos 6.22 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: ME for the lulz. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or you could put an actual OS on there instead of that MS fluff.... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: how hard would it be to add a mini window notepad to MUSH? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Okay. So. 948 problems repaired. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: With what software? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Yeah that AVG thingy. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Is it supposed to be faster now O.o T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Cool. Now you need to use all the other tools like browser cleanup, removing duplicates, defragmenting/optomizing... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I should use it on my old pc see if i can beat your problems repaired :p T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: I used all those tools one afternoon and found my pc almost instantly starting up. And my internet exploring is much faster T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Should also really check the System Advisor feature :/ T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Now its just tuning me to purchase the full version O.o T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Then go on google and search for its serial key ;) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia groans loudly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: that ez huh? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imzadi Tech: does anyone know of a good RSS reader that's not Feed Demon? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use sage sidebar with firefox T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mozilla Thunderbird.. dunno if it's good, though T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: The thingy that says MORE at the bottom wont go away O.o T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: WHAT MORE IS THERE DAMN YOU T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow at Democratic Armenia's weird actions. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: Hello. What is the manual syntax for adding a new alias using the Aardwolf client? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: Specifically to the client, not the in-game alias T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: open the aliases menu and click add? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: that's the thing I don't want to use the in-game aliases or use a mouse T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: I want to be able to type it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Well the new mushclient you can #alias {} {} T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ahh... there you go T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: Oh... so it does work like wintin T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: only if you have the aard mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: the new version, that is T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the AardClient syntax awkward as though designed by somebody with psychological troubles T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: well, I'm using the version linked on the aardwolf site.. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Click on Help->Function List, double click on AddAlias for the help file on how to use it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: and #al ff cast 'rune of ix' %0 isn't working T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: that's because you actually have to type 'alias'... and use brackets T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: curly brackets T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: proly would help if u just put example :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: of brackets T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: #alias {mf *} {mapper find %1} T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz: It is written in LUA code, not "this is so easy I do not have to work at it code." T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: as far as my experience goes T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: ok, the full bracket use et al worked T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: just gotta figure out if I have the spirit to copy over 353 aliases and 22 triggers T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: From what? A tintin client? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Jhezabyl From where? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: WinTin T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: There should be a text file somewhere with all your aliases. If they work the both way in both clients, just drag, copy, and paste into mush T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Jhezabyl: You might need to speak with Abelinc. He might be able to help you. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in zmud where: #va spellc 'rune of x' #alias m (~cast pellc %-1) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: Well, I appreciate everyone's help, I will see what I can work with here. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in zmud where: #va spellc 'rune of x' #alias m (~cast @spellc %-1) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Hmm.. Dejavu T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: I may be too stuch in my ways though, you use a client for 15 years you kinda get used to it. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: stuck* T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: it gets easy to adapt T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in zmud ( where: #va sna 'rune of x' ): #alias m (~cast @sna %-1) permits fast updates to another spell when rune of x is adepted T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: as to the clumsier alternative in aardclient, perhaps somebody else may suggest the syntax T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: probably better off examining your crap load of aliases and see which you still need and what you can get rid of T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: That is true, I've got prolly 100 that are old low level spells T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: That I never cast T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhezabyl Tech: The rebuild option, when you remort, doesn't mater, since you are restarting at level 1, it's just a race change right? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: for nontech, use the answer channel T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Looks like that wimp Jhezabyl is Surrendering again. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: is there a newline character in lua? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: n/ I think T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: Hey, Is is possible to use the GMCP on MOO programming language? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: make that \n T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech} Forestseer Tech: actually, it's more likely about 20% T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: that doesn't work with print () does it? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I'm not sure T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seagram Tech: or does anyone know how I would go about getting these epic mini-maps on a MOO? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I don't. Sorry. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is \010 or \10 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: newline is 0d0a in hex cr lf T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I calibrate the 3moons script that I got at http://frostblade.net/aardwolf/plugins/threemoons.html? Anyone know? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: calibrate to do what? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you have to see each of the moons fall/rise (I don't remember which for that plugin) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: if you just want an accurate result, just stand in the open for a while T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: either will do probably T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Or become an imm, and make your imm room outdoors, so it'll almost always be calibrated. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: I mean... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fuzzy Madcatz peers around himself intently. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or be crazy cat that is known as Madcatz. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone else use mudlet? I need a script to make the mapper work. (inthe beta 2.0 version) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Why not use MUSH? Curious question, not a retort or an attack on the stupidity. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: clients: 2 people use mudlet, good luck :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mush doesnt work on a mac, thats why. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Sure it does. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: works under wine i think T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wine 1.2.2 or something like that. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I dont want to use bootcamp, and I know nothing about wine. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, Fiendish uses MUSH on a Mac when making the aardwolf client package, I believe T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: where can I find more info? I'd love to use mush T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: I think he uses Ubuntu. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: google? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: boot camp, parallels, wine/darwine, fusion, virtualbox T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Messy Jesse wunders what the unidentified and unknown clients could be T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: just google wine? any additional keyowrds to filter the beverage? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turie, depends on when T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You can do negative words, too.. so google wine -beverage -drink? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm, I'll check out that link T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: True. However, the link above is for Mac and Linux OS users. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or wine -drink -beverage +mac T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: gmud isnt on the list i noticed T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: the wine in question should be the first link anyway :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: gmud, I think, is unidentified. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: quoting nick gammon: T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmud shouldn't be used by anyone :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: or not... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers with you about your shared secret. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: i used it when in school cause it gets past proxy somehow T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't do anything different for proxy T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I used a window client I used zmud. I REALLY liked that lots of people used it and there were a lot of scripts availble. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i miss that with Mudlet T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: regarding mushclient on mac,http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=5217 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: wierd, maybe it just let me install that one, zmud wouldnt install or somethin T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's how mushclient is now...lots more support for scripting for it here than z or cmud T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient has several active plugin authors, me/fiendish/spartacus/mendaloth just to name a few T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i think there are more script publicly available for mush (for aardwolf) than for z/cmud T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i don't use mush though T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jesse, don't need to install mush :-) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a folder that you can throw on a thumb drive, no install needed T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh.. just went to google.. their doodle today is cool. check it out T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: nice, now if only i were back in school :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: i'll keep it in mind when i go back :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: any idea why i know longer have spacing on my screen? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: compact T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Messy Jesse shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Either that, or you've got a bad trigger gagging spaces. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: nope thats not it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using mushclient, there is also an Omit_Blank_lines plugin, you may have loaded that by accident T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or like etzli said it could be a runaway trigger T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: change your prompt lately? no carriage return? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Happens sometimes when I use database variables triggers; a blank row will be construed as an empty line. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: its your spellup script etzli T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Correction: Davos's spellup script, not mine. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And check your spell list databases... I'm pretty sure there was an errant blank row in one of them. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It'll actually be the spell message databases. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: hmmm no idea i'll just remove the package and reinstall this is the first time its done this in years T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, this is me on MUSH. heh T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Siren Cera on and wish her good luck! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now to configure... ugh. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, and I'm gonna be REALLY pissed if this breaks when I install Lion next month.. LOL T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, why is all the text in my main windo so dark? and it didnt get bigger or change fonts when I changed them in the global preferences... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: what client? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mush T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: world properties, output for font changing. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I'll play around with world properties... thanks T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: or press alt 5 to get to the configure window. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Output window* T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: and I think ansi colors under world properties, but I've not played with that. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it got brighter when I changed the font (and font size) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yay! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok.. neither the windows nor the mac keyboard short cuts work for copy/paste?!? (MUSH) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you'll need a mush on mac expert for that :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I like to call them M&M experts :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cera, are you trying to cope/paste JUST within MUSH, or trying to go between Mac and MUSH stuff? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for just MUSH, you should be able to use ctrl-c/v...if you want to be able to copy/paste back & forth, go into the X11.app preferences and select pasteboard and clipboard syncing T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do I make what I type on the command line in MUSH stay on the command line, so I can get enter enter enter...? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: top checkbox T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Config -> Output -> Repeat last command or something (on the right side) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's input, not output :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: but consider using up arrow to scroll through past commands also T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Er, input, yeah. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that worked.. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that worked.. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cool T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Thanks for spamming us to prove it works. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, looks like it did T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: my pleasure. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera grins mischievously. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is covered in the online guide T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: btw T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh? wehre's that? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page that had the info on mushclient with linux/macos T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: start here https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has lots of "what you want to know about using mush" stuff T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a section on the left htat says "I'm used to a different client. How do I...?" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, thanks, I'llr ead that. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: whats the difference between a laptop and a notebook? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one's a subclass of the other T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptop is almost any portable computer, notebook is a size classification within it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: laptops encompass notebook, subnotebook, netbook, etc T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: can i play aard on both T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you can play aard on a cellphone, sort of T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have players that play aard without owning a computer T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: ok thanks.I didn't wanna buy wanna and then i can't use it for games T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I send my commands via postcard directly to Lasher. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I moved next door to lasher so that I could vibrate a bit of string on a tin can T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: i know.But i wanna get a laptop or something for it.My phone is sh... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: a netbook would work fine T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: asus makes some decent ones T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I recommend newegg.com for buying T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: and by decent he means that they won't blow up for at least the first year *smirk* T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I've not had any issues with asus products T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: and newegg has gotten incredibly pricey lately, btw. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: do you have a recommendation? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: it really depends on what you want to do with it. if you're looking for something that has a lot of battery life and you can leave on for extended periods of time without overheating issues, you'd be better off looking into a mac. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's ridiculous T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my thinkpad will outlast any current mac laptop T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon just got her brand new ThinkPad in the mail today. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: what battery do you have in your thinkpad? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon drools all over herself -- making a TERRIBLE mess! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 9 cell. it practically doubles the weight of the laptop :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: its a matter of personal opinion and usage fiendish. and not everyone wants a fancy thinkpad. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so you want a fancy macbook? right T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I was really just trying to give another option to the asus. You wanna know what *I* use? I have a desktop that I built out of scraps back in 2002. It runs XP. So don't trash me about macbook. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I didnt see any trash talk T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: and quite frankly, any mac worth its salt will outlast an ASUS, which was my one and only point. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: awoid asus at all costs T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: They also cost >3x as much... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also, didn't Apple just recently make it so that their laptop batteries are not user removable? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: which was exactly my point, gramdel. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: their support is horrendous T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its been like that for a while i thought fiend T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I may be wrong T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: To quote Cory Doctorow... "If it doesn't have screws you don't own it." T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well only in the latest models T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: also you should buy a mac because you want your cpu perm stuck to the MOBO so you cant upgrade T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: it is use replaceable, just not as easily as it used to be T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: i personally have never owned a macbook, wouldn't have one, despise them in all their glory. however my brother in law has a macbook air that he swears by. its up to the individual to research and decide what they like. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Takihisis built his computer from SCRAPS in a CAVE. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Takihisis Stark T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're changing CPU in a laptop other than for failure, then you didn't buy properly T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have both, and liek both :), and dislike both as well T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Takihisis is a HER - and you're close, except it was a farmhouse in Arkansas. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is Takihisis hawt? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Even I know there are no hers online. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: upgrading the cpu in a laptop is kind of a bad idea T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it means that everything else about the laptop is obsolete T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis smirks at Oladon's saying. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the CPU is not likely your bottleneck T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: So you're a boy too? Wow. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: We went over this on gossip earlier. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I wasn't here for it then. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: but yeah, i think the mac laptops are pretty good and even value for the money (if you buy them after they've been announced). If you factor in the relatively ow weight, long battery life etc T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you cant own a mac because if you like it, the rest of the world thinks you're a fanboy T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mac laptops are great. they're just not the only option for the stated desires. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Fiend I have a request for the next release of the aard mushclient :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it something i'm likely to forget between now and then? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if so, put it here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: can you include all of the maps for the mapper, so i dont have to map everything myself T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: next request? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ummm, thats all I got T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if Lasher and I had wanted you to have all of the maps without having to do any exploring, he would have dumped the entire room database for me to include T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oh come on, give the scathing reply you gave me :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: there you go :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I didn't give you continents and a few low areas by acccident T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a room find script included though? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "room find script" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper find T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see 'mapper help' for what is included in the mapper T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for anything already in your mapper T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: cool i might have to look at it sometime T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "might" is, I think, the wrong word T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: look at it right now T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: it's very nice T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anything been said on what the new donate option will be? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: once you realize what's included in the mapper, you'll realize why having maps for download would really take away fun from the game. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah, he's adding a "to Fiendish" option T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie . o O ( Fiendish needs all the donation he can get! ) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Fiendish does not actually need your donations. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless those donations are in US dollars. Actually, I wouldn't mind if people sent me free money. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I don't need it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was gonna donate to Fiendish, but I took it to the sperm bank instead T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I had a running joke with an ex girlfriend of mine about how when people say "take a dump" or "take a shit" really they should say "leave" instead of "take" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: that wouldn't apply for me *srun T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and that for the more generous leavings, you might even consider calling it a donation, you know, for tax purposes T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since then I haven't been able to hear the word donate without cracking a smile T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is the going rate for crap these days? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: that's an old george carlin joke T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh, huh, he said crack T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Bast: ask a farmer. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because if I could sell it, I could make a fortune from my boss T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Or a politician. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: george carlin must have been a funny guy to copy my joke T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I paid 10 bucks for a bag of crap a few weeks ago T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fiend.. make a sciprt that can take my rooms explored info and magicaly pull form that exactly WHICH rooms I have explored and make the mapper see them already without me having to re-explore them. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera smirks. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I like taht idea Cera T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera grins mischievously. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as soon as Lasher lets us do queries on Aard's database... :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera: hmm...no. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that would help for my mobresist list :) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See 'help eye of discovery' T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not because i don't want to, but that's just not possible for me to do T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: come on fiendish, you know you can no matter if it is technically possible or not, the user is always right! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just yesterday, I had someone call and say a whole folder of my files disappeared: I want to know what you did! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: come to find out, they moved it somewhere else, sigh T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes i know friend, that's why I included the word magicaly.. :( I wish it could be done though. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I didn't get to call them an idiot to their face, which was disappointing T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: minus that R T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud, if you want to make something show 2 lines instead 1. how do you do that? for example EXp:123, Gold:456. instead of behind eachother with %concat and you place it underneath eachother? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: hope someone understands what i mean:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: \n? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: isn't it %cr ? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: or that T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it sort of depends on exactly what you are doing. There are several options. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: will test both thnx T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: been awhile since I've done anything in zmud. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: well basically what i'm doing is making a script that replaces all exp in round into single line, then line beneath that i want it to show gold T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I mean, you could just do stuff%crmorestuff, or you could just do two print commands (#say, #show, #echo, etc). T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: the %cr worked:) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: did %concat( xp, %cr, old) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: did %concat( @exp, %cr, @gold) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: actually subbing T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: so #show, #show wasn't really gonna work T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: #loopdb @Groupexp {%concat(", ",%val,"(",%ansi(green), %key, %ansi(grey),")") T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: seems defective what's wrong with it?:D T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what you are expecting? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: a line that shows %val followed by %key T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: for player1(111), player2(222), etc T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: player=val, number in bracket is key T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: values and keys stored in @groupexp obviously:) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: there is a } at the end as well obviously T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, the big thing I see (assuming you're attempting to print to the screen as opposed to sending to the game) is that there's nothing catching the result of the %concat(). T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there a way to disable double screen buffering in vista? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: turn off the Aero stuff T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kilavko Tech: off T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you probably can't actually turn it completely off, but turning off Aero will make it not use the neat graphical stuff that slows down your display. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: #va GroupExp2 {#loopdb @Groupexp {%concat(", ",%val,"(",%ansi(green), %key, %ansi(grey),")")}} T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: this was the whole thing T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: can't put commands in a variable T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: aha, so how should i solve that? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you're attempting to do a user function, surround the entire thing with %exec(). T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: no i want the value of the result somewhere T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It might be that this version of zmud is old, but scrollback keeps breaking. I try to scroll up and nothing happens until I receive another line of text from the game. Would the double buffering crap be causing this? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: don't wanna show it directly have to add other info in it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: user functions in ZMud are the same thing as variables. That's what the Script tab means. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: preferred to save the result of that into a variable if possible T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how old? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's what the would do T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's what the %exec() would do T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: #LOOPDB @Groupexp {#VAR NewVar {%concat(...)}} T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Why not do it that way? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or rather, NewVar=%concat(@NewVar, ... ) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: yeah was looping at it while talking about it and didn't see that one, will try thnx T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: is there a list of areas that shows the old areas name? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not within Aard, no. Perhaps there's something on the web. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone know offhand where Fiendish wants MUSh suggestions? or just a note? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: board personal;note write fiendish works. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can also post an issue on the google website. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, he gave someone earlier a website T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That, too. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: its not an issues, just an idea.. still work there? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Not just at his website, from his finger? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah there is a drop box which lets you list whether it is an idea or a bug. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: the #loopdb roupexp {ar newvar {%concat thing didn't work:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: fiendish has some docs here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Contact T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: need a way to save loopdb into a new variable i guess:D T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: so guess concrete question would be in zmud is there a way to save the output of a loopdb into a variable T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Like I said earlier... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: #LOOPDB @Variable name {NewVar=%concat(@NewVar, %key, %val)} or whatever you want it to be. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep, %exec(). #var variable {%exec(commands and stuff you're not supposed to use in variables)} T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know what a mushclient offset time is for a timer? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Why use %exec() when it's not needed? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: it's how far into the time interval it fires. So if you fire every minute, offset 30 seconds, if fires 30 seconds into the minute T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah... thanks =D T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx both for help:) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: pretty sure she doesn't want to end up with a string of "key1val1key1val1key2val2...keyNvalN" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ah, good point. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nods i managed that already:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I think it is subtractive, so offset 10 seconds would fire 50 seconds into the minute T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: that's why i said it wasn't working T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what, exactly, do you want to see when you go clicking on this NewVar in the Settings Editor? I'm still not really getting why you want to loop through one DB variable and assign that entire variable to another variable (and do so in a non-DB format). T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Even though it's zMUD, you might get into the habit of using #CALL %exec() for that instead, especially if you think about converting over to CMUD later. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Guala's adding color. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: since it's ZMud, should avoid anything with the letters "exec" entirely. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers with Dokkar about their shared secret. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's slowest of the slow. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: color based on what? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, more specifically, seems Guala's making it value (key) (with key being in green) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in that case, she'll probably want to do things entirely differently, then. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: ul:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oh, wait, scratch that. No temporary variables in ZMud. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Dokkar. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: basically what i wanna do is have a list of names as key and exp as value, i want to turn them into 1 line T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: erm, a list why? Are you going to do stuff TO the list beyond just printing it to a window? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: i'm subbing it for stuff i get from mud T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: if i look at data record of groupexp and look at it zmud script style part it would look like: player1|15 player 2|20, i want to turn it into Exp:player1 (15), player2 (20) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: rather player1=15|player2=20 etc T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: status window or child window? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: main window as a sub for all the player receives 16+2 experience points. while grouping T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: main window as a sub for all the player receives 16+2 experience points. while grouping T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: so instead of getting 5 lines if in group of 5 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: i get 1 line with player name follow by exp earne T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ah, so for your example you'd want to see something like "Exp: Dokkar(18)"? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nods T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: but then the whole list T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in 1 line T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: anyone here use mushclient and know how to set a certain command to i.e. f12 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: macros configuration screen T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Is this list dedicated to just this or is there other data? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: just this T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: the whole variable gets set to %null right after reportin T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: the only key in the whole list is player names and only value is the exp they gained on last mob T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: okay, then no need for that second variable at all T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Any way to bind other keys for macros? Or just those in tat list? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: reason i did second variable is so i could isolate the coding errors:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: the line contains other info %concat(var1,var2) etc:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: other keys: http://mushclient.com/faq point 39 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ah, so all of this would normally be happening to the original variable? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: the making list thing? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: originally getting the values and then later displaying them T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nods just need something to conver the original data record into 1 line in colors i want T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: get the value, display value, delete value basically yes, not gonna calculate or manipute it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: will this just be only folk who got experience, or are you also looking for the noexp folk in the group as well? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it gets a lot simpler if this list is only full of exp-getters T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: just those that got the experience nothing too fansy checking if they have noexp etc T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: basically you kill a mob in group you see exp every group member gained from 0-330, all those lines where it says X received Y exp, want them compressed into 1 line that's it:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, first off, at the point where you #addkey the key-value pair to the variable you can add the color to the variable (depending on how you want it formatted, you may also need to add in the formatting text...parentheses and so forth) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: can use MXP color if you want, otherwise just %ansi(color)value%ansi(default). T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: ok so #addkey groupexp {@r%1} {@G%2} whatever T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: from there, you can avoid the looping entirely by using %replace() or even %expandlist() if ZMud has that. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: but how do you make the whole list which is normally underneath eachother next to eachother? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, ZMud processes color syntax on information messages (#say, #show, etc)? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: err true T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: now i remember why i used ansi instead of colors:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: how about no data record at all.... #var groupexp %concat(@groupexp, %1, %2) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: can expand the list whenever, will get cleared in the end anyways.. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anywho, db variables use two escape characters to show the division between a key-value pair (the pipe symbol you see in the Script tab) and the division between a key and the value (the equals sign). You can't just do %replace(ariable,"|",", ") T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't recall what they are specifically, and they're both unprintable, so you'll need to experiment using %char() T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: was thinking in 1 direction guess it coulda had more then 1 answer to this particular problem:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ie, %replace(ariable,%char(0),"/"). If you don't see the /, then you move %char(1). T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anywho, to get back on track, once you know what characters to replace you can just do the replace to end up with your list. From there, you just #SUB your variable and the script is done. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or you could just do the concat where you were doing the #addkey, so that your list is already maintained horizontally. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nods thnx for all the help:) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone know if I can use a variable in a macro? (MUSH) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: you can T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I cant find an expand variable checkbox like in alias, and I cant get it to work T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: try using @variablename T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: oh wait i used a workaroudn for that actually T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I did, it send ariablename to the mud T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i made an alias and had my macro call the alias T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah, ok T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: .... how do you call an alias? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud if i sub something with %null or #gag an empty line stays behind is there a way to remove the empty line as well? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the line is not left behind, it was there before the sub. The trick is to figure out if it comes before the line you subbed or after. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and sometimes the mud didn't send one at all. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: found it thnx:) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: one thing you could do, I think, is to check the Parsona disappears! predefined variable for "" (although not sure if the match will equate to "" or something else). If so, you would just #GAG -1. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oops, that was supposed to be %line2 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: i have a class folder names tests T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: now that it's past testing i need to put it in a nice folder etc T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: bech T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: no, tech. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: does the info channel have gmcp? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: =( T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quick'n'easy way to find out...turn on info levels, turn on echoing of gmcp ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I wish it did, with something that gave the category of the info announcement. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I just tried that Abe T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Mendaloth, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks =D T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every few secs there's a level by someone if you don't have clanonly on ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: info does not send by gmcp T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I don't have levels on T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: I had to turn that on first T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc still wishes clanonly applied to levels but NOT to deaths T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i have {affon} and {affoff} turned on.. how do I turn them off? or are they needed for in-game spellup to work? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mushclient channel capture plugin deals with this by having an optional special trigger on "INFO:" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav seems to think you have the right idea. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I would be happy with that too Abel, that or GMCP and category coming through GMCP T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: just type tags, cera T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags spellups off...not neeed for in-game T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: the options are there T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Would be trivial to do whatever filters you want at that point. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah I would want gmcp info to work as well, would be easier to track doubles T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know what the tags in the mushclient plugins are for? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's so it doesn't have to escape all the characters inside, I think... something like that. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: It's part of the XML specification. Basically turns of the xml formatting requirements, like < instead of <. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme nods at Ebullient Etzli. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: It's part of the XML spec -- if you have an element that could contain unescaped XML characters, you should use it. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Or what they said! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What Daesilme meant was instead of & lt ; T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah, I see T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I assume clients with MXP support saw a < instead of a <? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Rathik. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, i wondered why you repeated it with a space T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always forget about those T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why this does not work in cmud? #MSS {MinDiff = DateDiff(~"n~", ~"@t1~", ~"@t2~")} T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Are you trying to do time differences? :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what about it is not working? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: cmud is giving an error T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: source not avilable for runtime errors T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's MSS stand for? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's the Microsoft Script control. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Microsoft Scripting Service or somesuch. It's the older version of the Microsoft Scripting Host. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotcha, thanks :-) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not sure why it's returning an error, Hadar, but personally, for time differences, I use lua. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: basically it lets you use Javascript or VBScript in CMud while newer stuff like LUA or Perlscript goes through the MSH. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont know lua, it gives me a type mismatch error T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: maybe you need to change it to a floating number T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: tonumber(variable)? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, lua gets to be a bit of a pain in that its variables are typeless T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so are ZScript variables T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: possibly a quote issue? " are real bitches to work with if you need to pass them along. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: by the way, is that VBscript or Javascript you're attempting to use? Perhaps your troubles might go away if you use ' instead of " T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is what it tells me Type mismatch '[string ":20:50"14 - Thursda"]' ... i think it has something to do with the function T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: Anyone else with CMUD 3.34 that have problems with % followed by an m or M disappearing from the output? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try ~%m, or %%m T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it has something to do with an old DOS legacy thing, I think. %m or %M is not explicitly defined as a special operator in zScript. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Put a ` at the start of each line. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: istr something recently where someone said that %m and %M are special tokens for cmud T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: The problem is that I am trying to use it in my prompt but it becomes just a blank when I do. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, it's not recent. It affects ZMud, too T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Like I said, put a ` at the start of the line. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start your line with a backtick or turn off parsing with the computer icon T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (Back tick, same key as your tilde) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both of those should tell cmud "don't try to DO anything with what I type, just SEND it" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: Ohh, nice. Worked fine. Thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: LOL worse comes to worse, just login using telnet real fast to setup your prompt or the flash/java client on the website. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ` at the start of the command line, "stuff", and CTRL-R (parsing/computer icon) equate to the same thing. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but with just a single thing to send that way, backtick is better since you don't have to do anything to turn it back on :-) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at you in agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Honestly, any time I'm using something that requires escapes, I'm putting backticks myself at the start of the line. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: same with "", just twice as slow T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i figured out why my #mss was not working thanks for those who were helping, its actually from a subregex thats not working T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there any way to reset a task if it is being buggy? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: only imms can reset stuff like that T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Post a note on the bugs forum? But no reset or anything on tasks. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: kk T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Highly doubt it's the task that's being buggy, though. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Limunious is agreeing with that Ebullient Etzli person again... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hardly ever is... for example, a mob that doesn't follow you when it should... do you have nofol on? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably PEBKAC, or the user is adhering to that 1d10t protocol again. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: nah last part of talsa goal being wierd with me T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Define "wierd" :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ill get it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: dont wanna give too much away T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli already did the goal, but has no idea what "wierd" is. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "wired" perhaps T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably tried to give an item and couldn't see Limunious or somesuch. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: anyone know how to get the aard stats pkg to start capturing inventory with cmud T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's missing a couple of functions. You can download them at...www.symphaena.com/SharedFiles/CommonFuncs.xml (off to verify the url is correctly cased.) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: correct url is here: symphaena.com/XML/CommonFuncs.xml T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not the right URL. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'll probably have to review the package for other tiny errors, since it's older than the recent changes to the invdata tags. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: cool since it is in raw xml format is there an easy way to import it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why this is not catching the info from realtime? %subregex(%1,"(\d+)\:(\d+)\:(\d+) \- \a+ (\d+) (\a+)\, (\d+)", "") T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep, open CMud, Open Package Editor, figure out which package you want to put this in (I had this in my main aardwolf package), and then click on File|Import XML T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is the comma a special character in regex patternmatching? Probably doesn't hurt if you're escaping it, but if it's not the escape might be getting included in the pattern. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: have you tried without escaping the - and , ? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: would the level restriction in help talsa be the reason the talsa part isnt working? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "the talsa part" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hadar, what is \a for? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh 5 T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Alpha. :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I would use a \w T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: alphanumeric character T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Abelinc: He can't finish the Talsa goal. :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in general, help areaname only applies to the area and not to the goals therein. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Help talsa says must be 120 to complete it. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how is talsa goal a tech issue? :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: He thought it was a bug earlier. :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bugs still aren't tech T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: (And yes, changing the \a to a \w fixes it for me.) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: helpfiles are the desmesnes of the tech channel, even though nobody reads them. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: sorry about the wrong line btw T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, dokkar, were you trying to refer to demosthenes? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: yes i ran it without excaping and with the excaping T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: don't think so. I saw it used in one of Piers Anthony's novels (Xanth?) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: based on context, I took it to be equivalent to "domain" or "realm". T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you guessed at the meaning of a word while reading a novel and figured you knew it well enough to throw it into casual conversation... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: he still used it correctly T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mostly I don't really care if I'm wrong or not. A great attitude for me, but it tends to irk the hell out of some people (another bonus for me, I suppose). T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a word that isn't the word for a meaning that it doesn't have isn't using it correctly... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I've got three people known strictly through muds who have seen fit to ignore all my characters on all the games I've ever played, and who'd jump at the chance to break all sorts of player-harassment rules to teach me a lesson. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (not even mentioning the fact that, if that were a word, and had that meaning, the statement itself was wrong :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: huh? it means realm. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: as he used it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: what word? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: desmesnes T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: you mean demesnes? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I tried running desmesnes, but got this: Invalid directions in command. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: which way is m? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm pretty sure that was the invalid direction. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: And yes, i know des moines has a silent S, but we don't need to toss it into demesne, already hard enough to spell as it is... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: could be for 'mystery' direction T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: i think the french contains the s T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 silent esses in that one T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: i'd consider either valid T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this isn't a french MUD T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Most french are esses T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you considering it valid doesn't make it so... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas enthusiastically high-fives Arnica! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, most french are asses. Parisians smell like it, too T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: It's not french. french was demeine. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well one person considering it valid, might not make it so, but eventually if enough of us do, it might just become true :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: ok, then lets argue about color vs colour T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: that's such a stupider thing Mendaloth... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck with making the nonexistent word desmesnes valid, mend :-) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: color and colour are both accepted English words...desmesnes is not T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it was used in an english-language novel, so it's legal to my way of thinking. Like hamburger or saurkraut. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: mind you, "de" in demesne, and "des" in des moine are both pronounced the same... don't you love the english language... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's probably a french syntax thing, not a quirk of the english language itself. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Dokkar, you're remembering it wrong, it's spelled DEMESNES, not DESMESNES. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: english is superior to french T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's spelled demesne, actually :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Well, in the plural, but yes. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Spoken French sounds like somebody talking with a mouth full of food. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas rolls his eyes at you. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: helpfiles are the domains of the tech channel? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The realm T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not plural T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (which they're not :P) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Weren't we arguing bout spelling, not grammar? ;) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: spoken french does not sound that way, it is all in the marbles. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, we were arguing on the existence of the word desmesnes :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: My accent changes if I use two marbles or three T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bah, a technicality, Zarq. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: head colds work great for accenting properly. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Explains Quebec, then T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: nothing explains quebec besides government appeasement to make sure they don't leave without taking their share of the national debt. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: though if they do leave they should be forced to leave based on the territory described when they were conquored. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I dunno that we want Canada to go back to the 1767 borders, though... T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: there is no reason for them to leave with labrador, that was added to quebec only as as an administrative basis. also the first nations encompassed within current quebec would be likely to rise in *ahem* armed revolt it they had no say on their treaty lands. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: oops should be if not it. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Is the mushclient on the official aard page supposed to have a plugin using the channels tags? Cause mine keeps turning them on but not gagging them. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a carriage return at the end of your prompt? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I do not, no. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: add one to both your prompt and bprompt ("%c" to the end) T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you use any of my plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I don't believe so. Too unfamiliar with how everything works to want to modify anything. :P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I keep hearing about the mapper plugin that has a goto-like setup to help me find rooms and that. I have the bast setup as well as the aard mush, what's that plugin called? I'm not seeing it in the list. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I figure that would help me with campaigns quite a lot. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aardwolf_gmcp_mapper T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you should be able to just type "mapper help" T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: weird, I don't have it. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you download the aardwolf mushclient from the aardwolf homepage? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I did. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I just didn't want to use the main mcl file because some of the miniwindows and all the graphical stuff makes my reader go nuts, so I wanted to just pick and choose plugins. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the mapper is a miniwindow T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is aard_gmcp_mapper.xml in the worlds/plugins directory T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Looks like the carriage return is working, thanks Bast. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud is there a way #gag a line and display that line exatly a bit later? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you would have to store it in a variable, depending on how "a bit later" it is. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: basically i want to #show something that triggers off a line before the line is show:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: so i thought gag it, show new thing, reprint it right awayu T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: uh T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: i use mushclient and my middle textarea where the game is played -- that window -- it grew vertically but the top of it is hidden... is there a way to restore those? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: i dont see anywhere i can grab it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try resetaard T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: worked enough for me to move it ... thanks T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: so I'm trying to learn this mapper find thing. I need a room ID to mapper goto, so I figured I could use mapper find potion for example, but it's not finding anything. do I need to populate the mapper database or something somehow? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: mapper find command is for room names only i think T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: ah. got it. wow, this might make campaigns way easier! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yay! T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: is there a way to do a find on wildcards? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it automatically does wildcards, it looks for the word anywhere in the room name T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: well, for example in the art of melody there are a couple antique storerooms, but mapper find storeroom doesn't work. I was curious if it'd help me find the hidden one. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud is there a way to put everything you just gagged into 1 variable? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: something like #capture but then capture to variable instead of window:P T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: have you been to all of those storerooms since you loaded the mapper, you have to go there first to be able to use mapper find on it T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: ah. gotcha. so it just uses my database for the search. makes sense. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: also, there is mapper area to just search the current area T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not specifically just for gagging, but var = %line. You will need to surround your entire pattern with () and use %1 instead of %line if you need to capture color codes, since those are not retained in %line. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TheCreator nods. I was hoping it'd help me find the hidden stuff for some of the campaigns. figured it'd be really useful when there wasn't a vi map available T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it will, once you find them first. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: if you have already a few variables in the line and want to capture color can you still use %1? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you also need to look into "mapper cexit" and "mapper portal" to add special exits T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not sure it will still be %1, but basically yeah. Each set of () gets stuffed into one of th %1...%99 variables so it's just figuring out which set is which variable. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: will do. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: is this all stored in sqllite databases? T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: haha, sweet. T3/r3/2011-06-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I get working the miniwin moons, from bast scripts? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know what would cause cmud to randomly change a var? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nevermind default was set T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko smiles. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nevermind its still doing it T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What version are you using? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: 3.34 T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is this a new, clean install, or an upgrade installed over a previous version? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: clean, debugger just shows it randomly changing T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Changing to what? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: k Aardwolf | Var "t2" changed from "0" to "10-Jun-2011 02:04:41" l Aardwolf | Var "t2" compiled (Expression) : 10-Jun-2011 02:04:41 n Aardwolf | Exec Var "t2" k Aardwolf | Var "t2" changed from "10-Jun-2011 02:04:41" to "0" T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, I had issues with variables changing for no reason, or being set to the wrong thing... supposedly cmud is highly prone to database corruption or something stupid. Have you tried exporting your session to XML, deleting it, and then re-importing into a new session? Quite often that fixed my issues, but the core problem was a corrupted installation. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I hate the fact that I have to bring a bag full of chargers whenever i go on a trip. Why can't the manufacturers agree on a standard.... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud is it possible to capture a line to variable with color codes intact instead of to another window? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: with rawcolors on for sure, but other than that i don't know T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: rawcolors is? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: type rawcolors and see ;) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: ok let's say that way how would i do it? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: hey is anyone using tightVNC? i'm trying to set it up on vista home, but its giving me a connection error. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: well the color codes can be seen with rawcolors on, so just capture them. Then again you'd need to replace all the color codes on mud output with ansi so it'd be a huge mess T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: how do i capture it into variable instead of another window tho T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: is it a specific thing you want to capture? can you give an example? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone have the trigger line for Hour double? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Aardwolf rejoices in the death of another MILLION monsters. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: test T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: my trigger just came on :P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Aardwolf rejoices in the death of another MILLION monsters. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: again? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: thanks again T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: stop lol T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: if that's making your trigger activate, it's poorly coded trigger T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: you should anchor your triggers :P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: yeah i use just basic triggers :P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nod, mine never goes off from channel chat. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko is agreeing with that Grammy Gramdel person again... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: if I send you low health messages do you flee? :) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: just add ^ in front of the trigger text and you should be ok T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone have the message for a trivia mob kill? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I have but eatingm handsn greasy :P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: You killed a triv bonus mob! iirc T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: heh alright I'll wait for it thanks duckbat =P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You killed a triv bonus mob! Triv point added. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think that's it. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You killed a Triv bonus mob!! Triv point added. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu sniggers quietly to himself, reflecting over an amusing thought. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: two spaces or two !! T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have it triggered on cmud, not on zmud apparently. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What I copied is the exact message. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: What is the trigger pattern when someone else blesses you? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: {affon}5,# =) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: Ok, let's say the message for when someone else blesses you then. :P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: if you like I can bless you. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I don't know the message personally, but may I ask why only bless? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: I am making a prot script. The other prots seems to have universal messages. But with bless, i says "You grant yourself..". Probably says something else when someone else blesses me. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: protection bless ? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: you know about spell tags right? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: Nope. Reading up on it at the moment. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: makes detecting spells on/off much easier than relying on messages T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: Not sure I fully understand spelltags. Like, what is {affon}72,1650 really? 72 is number, 1650 the time. But in what way does it help me, how do I use it? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: every spell has an associated number T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Photios, the bottom part of "help spelltags" tells of a command "slist". The intention is to capture all of those lines, then a script will know what 72 is. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: help spelltags T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oops, T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: if you have a table of all the spell numbers, you can match the number T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sinnamon Tech: with just the one trigger instead of a whole bunch T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're wanting to recast every spellup spell that wears off, and you get {affoff}72, then all you have to do is respond with cast 72 T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh wow.. i've been after "slist" for about a month T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: LOL... helpfiles are wonderful Winkle. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: slist affected noprompt! T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what's a help file??? lol T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Having a look at any recent spellup script could have yielded that command also. haha T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I just spammed myself with slist, thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Photios Tech: Still do not understand. I mean, the only thing I can see when spells goes on/off is the output the mud gives me. Is there any other way you say? Or is it meant I run slist learned and from there trigger what I need? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Photios, you have to turn spelltags on T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, you can use tags T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: tags spellups on T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i wonder if this is intentional or a bug? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: What? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if a room CP mob is dead it shows up as an area cp listing T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Intenional T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm trying to work out the reasoning for that T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: If mob is dead what room would it show? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can't rightfully show a room if the mob is dead. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no i guess not... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUD server doesn't keep a list of the rooms the mobs are in, only the resets T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that makes sense.. messes me about something terrible.. but understandable T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone use samsung's galaxy s and use a custom rom? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know how to set up python 3.2 as the default python for windows 7? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: is there a way to save what i'm wearing within the game to change and save whole eq sets or do I need to do that through my client? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could do it as a MUD-side alias now that they can be multi-command T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: might have to submit an idea for that one. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias levelset rem all ; g light bag ; wear light ; g head bag ; wear head ; g eyes bag ; wear eyes, etc T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need, really...most clan EQ sets use the level as a keyword, so g all.91 bag ; wear 91 until you run out of things to wear T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not worth doing killing set and moment-of-level sets T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: oh, i didn't know that. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is not seriously suggesting the unlikely-to-be-implememented-on-Aardwolf superduper "wearfrom" command: wearfrom AardEqBag light, head, eyes, etcetera T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli is seriously suggesting Xyliz get a new life outside of Aardwolf and trolling. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz trolls some more with "you gays er guys do not deserve those luxurious commands" T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: In touch with your own preferences, Xyliz? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was that an Anthony Weiner joke, Etzli T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: given that weiner had nothing to do with gay comments, not likely T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers with you about your shared secret. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe a mcgreevey joke T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Alright, so. Spartacus. Explain what this does for me so I can figure out if I want it. :p T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone got strong google-fu? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: What do you need? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: *grins&&* T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What's up? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: find me a manual for an APC CS500 UPS T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with a link that isn't broken like the one on APC's website T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/ASTE-6Z7V3T_R0_EN.pdf T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=bk500ei T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ta, and bollocks T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: first poster just added filetype:pdf T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the bollocks was upon seeing the non-standard usb cable T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Actually no, I didn't. I just searched for "product manual" in quotes. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Karzon. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You beat me to it. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: us-rj45 cable, wtf? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Heh.. Cheezburger only provided specs, not manual. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: usb-rj45 even T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: then you SHOULD have T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: *grin* T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Specs shows the USB type :P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Well, not all of them are in that format. But I would have tried that eventually. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not, it's got 2 rj45 and an rj11 on it T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Regardless, he asked for the manual. *blink* T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://dotiosom.livejournal.com/7063.html T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try there? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's not even the right model... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: But the manual has been found. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie moves on. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the software for it? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Besides... who makes a livejournal post like that... :\ T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Some spammer thing? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Software: http://www.apc.com/tools/download/software_comp.cfm?sw_sku=SFPCPE30&id=129&family=29&part_num=BK500EI&swfam=&tsk= T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: i have a question for mushclient users. is it possible to program the client to highlight a string of words? for example a curse or ego whip landing successfully? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Ctrl-alt-9 brings you to aliases. Go to triggers from there. Then add one. I *think* that should handle that? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Certainly. Match the line you want, use ColorNote to print it back out in some outlandish color. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: excellent T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: It seems like it would work. Then again, Jhav, what is this colornote command? How is it used?? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=ColourNote T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Knew I was right directing him here :) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody here good with linux? i got this book here with two paragraph's that i'm confused by the wording of T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I like to pretend sometimes. What's up? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Erm...I know something. Try typing them? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: which triggers work best in mushclient ? regular expression ones or the other? im trying a simple wildcard trigger and neither are working -_- T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: they both work the same, the wildcard is converted to a regular expression internally anyway T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: basic's on how a unix system open's a file for a user process - A file descriptor represents an interaction between a process and an opened file, while an open file object contains data related to that interaction. The same open file object may be identified by several file descriptors in the same process. (and) Several processes may concurrently open the same file. In this case, the filesystem assigns a separate file descriptor to each file, along with a separate open file object. (This is what confused me a little, to each file, but there seem's to be one file discussed here - each with its own open file object/descriptor to act on that object, possibly several time's in each single process, but one file) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's from understanding the linux kernel 2nd edition, it is a basic thing but the wording make's it confusing i think T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: would '^You ridicule . about his childhood.$' be correct for a regular expression wildcard ? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Since you have a different file object, (basically you're opening a clone of the file) you have a seperate file. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: does that make sense? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, you'd want something like ^You ridicule .*? about his childhood\.$ T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Do you have any coding background? If I make a pointer analogy, will it help? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: alright, i'll give that a shot T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And you'd probably want something for that gender pronoun. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think so, files being plural because each open file object is different for each process? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: '^You ridicule (.*) about (.*) childhood.$' should work T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ^You ridicule .*? about (his|her|its) childhood\.$ T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i only briefly explored clone function's and thing's like that, i have to reteach myself T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That works too :P T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: i see, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. Each file exists in a specific inode somewhere on a device. Inside the kernel, for each process, there's a table. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: That table contains information like 'where in the file am I, do I have the file ready for writing' and so on. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: The process' index into that table is your file descriptor. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: So in process A, FD 10 and 11 can both index /tmp/foo, and process B can also index /tmp/foo with ITs FD 10, which is not the same as process A's, by virtue of them being in different processes. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: (And that they both point to /tmp/foo is just coincidence in this case.) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Did that help or make it worse? I feel like I did a bad job of that. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: on zmud I have a map database, it works fine when I open it, but when I close and reopen zmud it dosent auto load T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: its execution contexts, for process A, would it have one open file object registered with the kernel pointing to /tmp foo, with a file pointer shared between two file descriptors that could be one reading and one writing for process A? and process A could maybe create two open file object's with two unique file descriptor's each with its own file pointer? - then process B at the same place has in its own context a file descriptor pointing to a third /tmp/foo that's the same descriptor identifier as one of A's, but local to that process, while its open file object has a offset on its file pointer in its open file object pointing to a third location T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: control+f9 T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that's how i think it is, the file pointer operate's on kernel memory, i think - maybe kernel memory would have one actual file object that the user processes act on, and each user process would have a local buffer that it acts on and commits to disk/requests from kernel into T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: thanks for the help in understanding that better :), they're just giving an overview at this point so exactly how all of that is arrived at (including the wording maybe) remains largely a mystery T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i have a couple other book's here that may make it easier to understand this one, maybe i should read those first T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: I have kchmviewer shown on my application's->office gdm tab, but it's missing xpdf and djview, anybody ever had this problem? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i installed them all around the same time, and i remember installing xpdf saying something like, registering with gdm T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: shows that the file's are linked to a viewer in the browser though, so it's no big deal T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: anyone know how to get a map db to automatically load when I open zmud? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: http://www.googuitar.info/ T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: try it out! T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: so I've asked this question before and didn't really get much of an answer, so thought I'd ask again. occasionally with mushclient, it will freeze up on me. it won't let me type any commands or anything... and in fact it got so bad just a few minutes ago it caused me to die because I kept typing flee over and over and over and it wouldn't register my commands. so this is what I've tried so far. I've tried disabling all the plugins I'm using. I've tried removing them altogether and not just disabling them. I've tried a complete fresh copy of mush, even. with the latest aard package version and everything. if anyone at all is experiencing this, or has experienced it in the past and can tell me how they've gotten around this issue, if at all, I would be forever endebted to you. it's becoming a real nuisance. and I don't want to have to switch back to my old mud client because I really have grown quite attached to mush and love everything about it... exceptthis dang freezing up thing... :( T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: tl, dr T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That sounds like a connection lag, not a MC issue T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday nods at Dispel Majic. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Are you running on windows or linux and wine? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tl:dr: mush freezes sometimes, people die T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: really? because I never experienced this with my other mud client at all. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: what OS are you using? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: windows. windows 7 to be exact. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illicit Tech: no firewall ? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: hey is anyone using tightVNC or equievalent? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: just the standard windows one. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: yeah i use tight, sup? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not the problem I had then...had problems with ubuntu and nvidia drivers which was similar, not had a problem with windows though T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i try to set it up on vista home, gives me error T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illicit Tech: try turning it off, or even better disable it in services T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: hm ok will give that a shot. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: what version of tightvnc? I think only the 2.x releases support vista/7 T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: something about problem on client side, the latest one T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: can you get the exact error? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: yea one moment T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Didn't realise there was a more recent version of tightvnc, I'm running 1.3.10 on windows xp and linux, is there any advantage to version 2? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: i don't know all the feature updates that have gone in since 1.3. sorry. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Looks like it's just the server, not sure if there'll be anything useful using the tightvnc 1.3 clients with a 2.0 server T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: thanks for whoever suggested turning the firewall off... I wasn't entirely comfortable with doing that, but I did notice that mush wasn't in the allow access list thing, so I added it. it seems to be doing better... we'll see how it goes, though. but thanks guys. appreciate the help. :) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ok sorry for a really delayed response to tightvnc, finally got the error message back T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: it says because T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: it says because of a protocol error, detected at the client (code 0x1104) this session will be disconnected. Please try connecting to the remote computer again T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: what plugin automatically turns on your channel tags? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: running the server on vista basic T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qwezo Tech: Is that when you are installing TightVNC? Or when you are trying to connect to a TightVNC server? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How come only commands entered by triggers echo? All typed commands do not. (mushclient) T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Aliases will fire off of typed text if that's what you want. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Triggers are designed only for what you describe. Text coming at them from the Mud. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: NFC... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Alright what I meant is commands issued from triggers SHOW in the output while other commands I type do not show. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: FOr example, if I type NORTH, mushclient will not echo it in the output window. If a trigger fires and sends NORTH, it will show in the output window. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: check your game settings, it's in there somewhere. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I do have the option to echo commands on. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: That will turn on the echo when you type T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are your triggers set to send to world? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah, and those are the ones that show T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: you can have mushclient not echo your commands T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pintao Tech: Ctr+Alt+E T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I turned them on in game->configure->commands. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, if you check "omit from output" in your trigger, it will not echo commands in the output, but it also doesn't echo the text that it triggered on T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Alright mushclient is totally breaking down... Time to upgrade T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Especially with it being free T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No I meant to the next version T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc cries. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm gonna get 4.73 or whatever is the new version T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Which...is...free. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: if i accidentally clicked the x on my even monitor miniwindow how do i get it back? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah I meand upgrade the VERSION. Not to a paid client T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: and the new version...is...free. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ...Yes...I...know T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vale: "mev events toggle", or load my miniwin_tabbar plugin T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: how hard would it be to make a miniwindow that would just always display the current "look" status of the room in terms of mobs? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... look at the code for the map plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Considering that the mob list could change, seems dicey... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: well from what i was told that is a gmcp variable or somethign so should be updated automatically T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mobs in the room is not a gmcp variable T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but my problem is when i open the plugins that i don't write its just one long single line and i can't really make heads or tails of it T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: room data is only the roomnum, name, exits, a limited set of roomflags, and the coordinate data. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Anyone here use mush client and know how to make a window for Cp mobs. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: go to http://bastmush.googlecode.com and follow the install instructions T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast and download his plugin list. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sorry, you've struck out in that regard. Very few people use mush anymore. T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: thanks bast T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oh, whoops, my Opposite Day coupon expired... T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: To transfer all my triggers and aliases to the new mushclient, can I copy the text from to to the new world file? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: or will I have to reconfigure them T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Yes, you can, though I just openend the old, copied the triggers using the button IN the client, then used the paste button IN the new client T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh you can copy triggers themselves? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Aaaaah thanks! That is sooo much easier T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone know which plugin automatically turns on channel tags?? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the communication log plugin: T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm, why does it turn it on even though it uses gmcp to capture? T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: so it can gag the channel in the output T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: gmcp isn't an either/or situation. You always get the non-gmcp version, and can choose to have a gmcp summary sent alongside. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: how do I use wildcards that are two digit in length? lile %12? it just gives me wildcard 1, then 2 T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: which client? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: Mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: use %<12> T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Peejuan Tech: just two periods T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah ok T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: or name them and then use the name, eg. % T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (MUSHClient) if I want a trigger to simplely set a variable where do I send it? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody here use gnome-mud? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: send to variable T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: probably put %1 in the send box (that is what is sent) and put the variable name in the variable box T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm trying to find a config file for it, but the only thing i see changed after i close client is a new directory with a ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-mud/profiles/Default/aliases/test2$ ls -> %gconf.xml file in it for each alias i create, test has its own directory too.. and these files contain things that change from alias to alias, like -> the mtime T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i can't find any reference to a front-end configuration file for it, it seems to all be handled by gnome itself T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i was trying to figure out a way i could automatically cut out the sections of my .mcl mushclient file and turn it into one of these file's, but that doesn't seem to be possible T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so I don't put "room = %2", I just put the %2? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so I don't put "@qroom = %2", I just put the %2? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: to set a variable simply put the value there (eg. %2) the setting is done by putting the name (eg. qroom) into the variable box T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okie. and if I want to set a variable AND send something to the mud.. that two different triggers? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: almost certainly the XML from the .mcl file will not be compatible with other clients. XML is a data description language, it doesn't guarantee each client will interpret it the same way T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, but it includes similar information to each of these single file's that gmud saves its alias's as, that's all i'm concerned about T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: era not at all. Do "send to script" then do two script commands, like Send ("xxx") to send to the MUD, and SetVariable ("qroom", "%2") to set the variable T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh. ok T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it would just require a matching and replacement string's to convert from that format to this format if it was in a single file, but since it includes the mtime and is in a gconf file (not a gmud.conf) file, it probably requires all kinds of gdm functions to arrive at T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: that was @Cera but it turned into Cyan T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: only way i guess i can do it is to copy/paste into the gmud windows T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh. oktech yeah, I got that. :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Druzil - you could conceivably script an export of the MUSHclient aliases (by looping through them) into a format that would be more compatible with gnome-mud but I would have no idea what that is T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, me either, and it would probably include some API for python or perl or c or something like that to arrive at the solution for T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm not gonna learn that for that, lol T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I should point out that you can run MUSHclient under Linux, if that is the issue T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, i downloaded wine, but this here client's pretty good as well, nice and simple T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'll just copy/paste them some day, i still have my old hard drive T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: sure T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: why does my trigger with the exact same matching string work if it's in the client, and not in a plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if I have two commands, one send a GT and set a varible, I need to choose Send to SCript, but where do I put the commands? in the send box didn't work T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: going AFK, I'll look for my answers later, thanks for the help so far! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the question? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you mean "where do I put the commands" the send box is the right place for everything T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but if you're using send to script, then you need to do Send("blah blah blah") for sending stuff to the mud T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: I have a multiline trigger that captures output for 5 lines, and gives me 7 wildcards correctly, but if I transfer the trigger into a plugin, it give me only 6, any idea why? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can only suggest that maybe you're doing something wrong :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: =( but I copied it directly T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I never use multiline triggers T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I prefer to use pairs or triplets of triggers that activate and deactivate each other T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it gives me more control T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: okay T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when the trigger, well, triggered, it gave these errors. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Run-time error T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: World: Aardwolf T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Immediate execution T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: attempt to call global 'send' (a nil value) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: stack traceback: T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: in main chunk T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: erm T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: pastebin it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: there is no function send, it is called Send T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no idea what pastebin is... my commands were in the send box T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: it is case-sensitive T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Send, not send T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hey nick T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: hi Fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I was going to not reply to all your notes, but you're here so I can do that instead of email T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: did you get my notes? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or...here... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but I didn't tell it that.. I send send to script, then put my commands in the send box... thats all i did T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mapper window's send to front/back is available when clicking on the drag bar in the title area. I suppose I can make it so that the entire window background is right-clickable too. the main output stays in the right place if you save first before switching to notepad. I'll make it so that the position always saves. I didn't try to attach a scroll bar to the main output, because there's already a scroll bar for it. I think it would be strange to have two scroll bars. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and that's what i've gotten to so far T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm fixing the initial main output width now. I just need to figure out a better default arrangement T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera your message said attempt to call 'send' - it should be 'Send' T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that was in the error message, I don't know where it came from or how ot chang eit T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it came from you using the word "send" in the send box T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: instead of the word Send T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: it has to be capitalized in other words. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "send" is not a valid function, but "Send" is, because it is case sensitive T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a thought. make mushclient case insensitive T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: but not a valid thought T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish grins evilly. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Fiendish ah ok I see about the mapper window now T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: still kinda inconsistent with the other map directly above it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh.. I think I get it... I told it "send ("some stuff")" rahter then "Send("some stuff")"? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera, right T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only reason why I didn't make the entire window right-clickable is because it either means that I no longer have a cursor change over the rooms, which I like to have, or it means that a different cursor also means clickable T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which isn't the end of the world T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe with more cursor options T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ah I didn't look at the cursor T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now.. how can I test a trigger (other then waiting for the mud to send the required text normally?) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Game->Test Trigger T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ctrl+shift+F12 then type it in (give yourself a newline with Ctrl+Enter to make it start on a newline) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make it also end with a newline T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imo, there should be an implicit newline at the end there, but I think there isn't T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: it sends what you tell it to send T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, it worked! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: how do I make these {affoff} messages go away? I forget T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so any combination os commands is send to script with the commands in the send window. cool T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tags spellups off T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: tags off T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ok ty T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "tags off" is never good advice. please stop giving it. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera yes send to script lets you do many exciting things T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tags off is the equivalent of bombing an entire country from orbit to kill a fly T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera perks up, something must have grabbed her attention. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: we can bomb a whole country from orbit? where do i get THAT plugin? :p T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Ooo...fly nuking T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Fair enough. It would fix the problem though. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Sounds like a job for Team America! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: whilst creating others I think is his point T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does it turn off the one tag in question? yes. but it also turns off every other tag. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and that will cause more problems T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Fair enough. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you know Fiendish, if you get bored, some tabs on the mapper window would be good T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tabs are hard T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what would the tabs do, anyway? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: switch from stuff to stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: they aren't too bad - you just have different drawing routines and call the appropriate one T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do I put in other mapper tabs? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Sections of the area you can't currently see? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: well I was looking at 'mapper help' and saw all sorts of stuff that could become buttons T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: eg. mapper unmapped T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: and mapper goto ... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are, I think, more pressing issues currently T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: or even add that to the RH click T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: RH-click and see options like "mapper shops" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh god T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper shops right now is a bit unsightly T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, like adding the % to the health bars. (*mgrin*) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it pathfinds all 350+ shops before displaying the list. I'm going to change that. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes there *was* a bit of a pause when I tried it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera kisses Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Hope so - I just tried it and regretted it :P T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: but a satisfying pause - it makes you think it has been working hard T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh by the way, you probably haven't noticed, I've completely replaced the pathfinding routine T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: In what version? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Karzon, a very old one T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: Ok, good. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: so, why when I type mapper goto X, I get Alias function "map_goto" not found or had a previous error. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: no I hadn't spotted that, I thought the other one was perfect T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the other one was slow and didn't properly allow for things like portals from anywhere T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so I now work in reverse and let the database handle it entirely T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Salvanas, sounds like the mapper had a previous error. what was the error? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Hmm, there was an error, I was just testing with random commands... hang on, i'll go grep for it. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "there was an error" sounds a lot like my dad sometimes T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "What did the error say, dad?" "I don't know. I didn't read it." T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: facepalm. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Heh. I don't use the mapper, so I didn't really worry too much about it. Was just playing for interests sake. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Run-time error. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: keep reading T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper (called from world: Aardwolf) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Yeah, but *I* care about it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: sorry, pasting line by line T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm going to bet that this has already been fixed T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but keep going T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Function/Sub: map_goto called by alias T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Reason: processing alias "" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: D:\MUSHclient\MUSHclient\lua\aardmapper.lua:1305: attempt to index a nil value T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: stack traceback: T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: D:\MUSHclient\MUSHclient\lua\aardmapper.lua:1305: in function 'find' T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: [string "Plugin"]:1975: in function <[string "Plugin"]:1962> T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: already been fixed T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what happens when you type checkversion? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Cool. Like I said, don't use it, first time I'm even playing with the mapper. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: nothing. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: would this work in mush? "questreward = tonumber( matches[2] )" questreward being a variable T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: figured as much. go here and download the latest development snapshot: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: the mapper is cool - just click on a room and you run to it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it has that bug fixed, among others T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: by the optimal route too T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh yeah. I changed that too T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Meh. Maybe sometime else. I pretty much play vanilla Aard anyway, don't really use many plugins. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera is this in send-to-script or a script function T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: question-mark T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: any debian or ubuntu users here who have no gcc manual page after installing gcc? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it now uses the pathfinding when you click instead of using the path built up during display T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because the path built during display doesn't take into account custom exits T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh that was a choice.. send to script then in the send box T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes which T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: gcc-doc-base doesn't exist, and gcc-doc is a broken package T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: in the script box? what is matches [2]? You mean wildcard 2? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in mudlet (used lua) we used tonumber to make a sting a number so I could add them. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yesh, i guess that part would be %1 T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's safer to use tonumber() or 0 in case your number ends up being not actually a number T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ok then you don't set variables that way, you need to do something like: SetVariable ("questreward", "%2") (or %1 or whatever) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: if you mean the MUSHclient variables, not the Lua variables T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: which are strings anyway, so doing tonumber on them doesn't achieve much T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I rad thay are all strings.. I want to add my quest points, reg, MCCP, tier, and any bonuses together to get a total T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no problem, salvanas. I appreciate the report anyway. You never know when there's a bug I haven't yet fixed T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you have two questions, I described how to set the variable. Adding is different ... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then you do tonumber (whatever) to convert it to a number T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: No worries. Took me long enough to get used to the Aardclient anyway. Was using the old basic MUSH for the past 6 years or so, just changed over end of last year when I came back after a bit of a break and a new computer.. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, set it in one commands, then change it from a string to a number in another? like "SetVariable ("questreward". %1)" then next line "tonumber(questreward)" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you'll find that the mapper is at the very least extremely useful T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if not rather pretty T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: comma not a dot. I don't see any attempt to add things in what you posted T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: I have one question.. why if OnPluginSaveState I do SetVariable 30 times, but in my statefile I have 33 variables? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: I tried deleting and reloading it already T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Kuro, can you pastebin what you have in onpluginsavestate? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and also what your state file shows? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu nods. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that parts in another trigger, after teh MCCP bonus is reoprted, it adds it all up and sends it to grouptalk T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: it doesn't matter what you do in OnPluginSaveState, maybe you created other variables earlier T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: http://pastebin.com/i46Pb7wK T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: no, I tried searching for the extra variables T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: there was no such variable in my plugin T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: the extra 3 keep reappearing T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: to save the variable for later use, you just do something like: SetVariable ("questreward", "%1") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Adrilawen, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I searched the file for the variable name, came up with no results T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: what are the names of the problem variables Kurojiryuu? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: how to set in mush scrolling so that it checks whats already typed and scrolls only thru matches not just dumbly scrolls thru every last thing T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: totalKillsDouble totalKillsDoubleExp totalKillsDoubleGold T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Kuro, you saved those at some point in the past T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even though you don't save them now T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: delete them from the save state file manually, reload it again T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I tried deleting them T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: they reappeared! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you save them somewhere else T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: remove the plugin, then delete them from the state file T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Any time you do SetVariable in a plugin, it puts the variable in the state file T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also you can't modify state files while mushclient is open T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: not usefully anyway T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: HiSaZuL, can you restate the question? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera now when you want to add stuff you get the variables, tonumber them, and add them T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: anyway to delete extra variables that I used to use? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why? do they hurt anything? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: other than doing that T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: or use the ariable syntax T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: no idea, waste memory? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: or use the @variable syntax T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: DeleteVariable() probably works T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks =D T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it's a rather poor way of doing it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because then you'll just build up an accumulation of DeleteVariables T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: in command like for istance i type score inventory backstab wall... if i type bac... and scroll it just dumbly crolls thru everything no consideration for pretyped characters T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah after one savestate you should be able to remove them right? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it sounds like you want autocompletion T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: sounds about right T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try pressing tab T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway to remap it somehow to work with just hittin up .. -_- T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @HiSaZuL go into T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @HiSaZuL go into commands -> Keyboard preferences and check Alt+Arrow key recalls previous command T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then type a partial command and Alt+Up T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he means recalls partial command T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes that T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that parts in another trigger, after teh MCCP bonus is reoprted, it adds it all up and sends it to grouptalk T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dejavu T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then you can type back + Alt+Up and it works T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that just makes even more typing then hitting tab lol... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is in fact an option for just "arrow key recalls partial command" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera then it should work if you do it right - it's hard to explain in one-line messages T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: arrow key recalls partial command is what you want, HiSaZuL T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @HiSaZuL but they do different things - the Alt+Up recalls an entire earlier command starting with you type T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. that's weird T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it seems to be right T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: hitting tab recalls a single word from earlier - maybe you want that, maybenot T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what i need is partial recall T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: from the middle of a command? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: HiSa, try what I suggest and see how it works T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he just wants arrow instead of alt+arrow T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: the arrow setting? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: oh yes, that is one less keypress T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats fiendish that worked. but the option is so well hidden that if u didnt say i would never have found it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes the "power" options are hidden away T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ach Fiendish you don't seem to be here if I send you a tell, that's not fair! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try now T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: HiSaZuL, organizing many complex options is not so simple T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: point taken ill be quiet now T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do I need to separate variable from erg text in a Send command with ? like Send("gt \Some text" ariablename "some more text") or just Send("gt \Some text ariablename more text") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: watch out for your @ signs T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do I need to separate variable from erg text in a Send command with ? like Send("gt \@RSome text" @variablename "some more text") or just Send("gt \@RSome text @variablename more text") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: erg? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: reg.. and there are ... in there. hold i'll resend T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do I need to separate variable from erg text in a Send command with ? like Send("gt \Some text" ariablename ... "some more text") or just.. Send("gt \@RSome text @variablename more text") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: watch your @ signs T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish grins evilly. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: they're coming right at me!!! run away T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do I need to separate variable from regurale text in a Send command with ...? like Send("gt \@RSome text" ... @variablename ... "some more text") or just.. Send("gt \@RSome text @variablename more text") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: string concatenation is two dots, not three T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um, yeah, i knew that... :p T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: no you don't - unless you are planning to arithmetic them, so this would work: Send ("gt @foo says @bar") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and \@ for sending color codes? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: bear in mind variables are resolved at script start time, don't change a variable and use the changed variable in the same piece of script T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: but if you wanted to add stuff, something like this: T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh! that's good to know... once pice of code is something like @doubleqpamt = @doubleqpamt + @MCCP T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: Send ("gt my health is ", @hp + @extra_hp + @foo + @bar) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: what I meant was, everything in the send box - all the @variables are converted at the start T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah.. thats what the tonumber was for, so I could add them T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: consider that the variables are literally inserted. So if @hp is 22 and @extra_hp is 33, then << @hp ++ @extra_hp >> gets converted to << 22 + 33 >> so no tonumber is needed in this particular case T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: for the lua string.find, if I manage to find what I'm looking for, what is the data type of the result? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ignore the extra + which I misthyped T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: is it a table? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: a string T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: so its a string with 2 numbers, start and end index? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you probably want string.match T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm... so how do I set a vaiable to a dynamic amount? SetVariable("name", 123) is well and good, but I want to SetVariable("name", @variable + @anothervariable) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: no, I just want a boolean thing =P T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: use string.match, that just gives you the matching capture T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: if no match returns a null? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Kurojiryuu any match is considered true, and no match returns nil T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera what you typed would do it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: there should be lots of examples, but you can always do: if string.match then end T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ditto for string.find if you don't care about the captures T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu nods. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: with string.match if you don't specify captures it returns the entire matching string T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: which may well be what you want T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I just need a true false value T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: so for this its a true nil =D T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: the way Lua works that will do for you T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: in Lua everything except nil and false are "true" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you mean you want to know if it doesn't match? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I broke something, took me 2 minutes to runto living mines... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: so I don't even need to do if string.match() ~= nil then <> end? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: absolutely not, it looks bad too T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: heh okay T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: doesn't living mines have an antlion that kicks you off the path? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: can T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it didnt T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so what did you type? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it actavaied my script it progess, gave me some error messags, then I did the runto. no idea T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mind displaying the error messages? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the whole client is very slow. I think a restart is in order T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sure.. hold on T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: it shouldn't be slow unless you have an amazingly large output buffer and not much memory on your PC T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or if there's a runaway script T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sure.. hold on T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Compile error T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: World: Aardwolf T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Immediate execution T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: [string "Trigger: "]:1: ')' expected near 'steel' T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I had a bad Send command, and this "SetVariable ("onquest", 1)" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera the client shouldn't be slow - check your Windows memory. Also maybe you have some string triggers, doing something like matching on consecutive wildcards can make the regexp handler go very slowly as it tries all sorts of combinations T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm on a mac. and I requested a quest, with lots of variables being set and then called T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: any way to disable f1 from opening help in mush? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in fact I have a FAQ that includes that question T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: global prefs, f1-f6 are macros T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: tick F1/F6 as macros T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ty very much :P found it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: honestly, it shouldn't be slow, even on a Mac. It's more likely something you have done. Like the wildcards. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: also... in the trigger screen I checked "tree view" and I noticed all my triggers are 'ungrouped'.. how can I group a bunch together? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: by giving them group names T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: edit them, put something into the Group field T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh I'm usre Adrilawen, like I said, I broke it. :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sweet T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera how many triggers do you have? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just updated the default states. the main output should be a reasonable size at first start in the next snapshot T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: there are quite a few metrics built into the client - in particular if you add the Summary.xml plugin, and then type "summary" you see a heap of useful stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: amongst other things how long each trigger, alias etc takes to evaluate and execute. You can "drill down" by following various hyperlinks to see how long each ones takes, whether it called a script, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Fiendish excellent T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 13 triggers, one of them is not enabled T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why are there element symbols after plugin entries in the summary output? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I have a line like this for my triggers: 16 enabled, 4 regexp, 1968 attempts, 0 matched, 0.004030 seconds. What do you have? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: where do I find that? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh I see. clickable. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: like this: [Tr Al Va Cb]? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: my little shorthand for Triggers, Aliases, Variables, Callbacks T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I type [Tr Al Va Cb]? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera no, in the summary list, scroll up to find it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in teh Shift+Ctrl+8 screen (Triggers)? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera - did you install the Summary plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um.. what summary plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i got the ones it came with. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Summary.xml in the plugins folder T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: Ctrl+Shift+P - then Add "summary.xml" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then type 'summary' T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whoa... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: now scroll up to: -- Triggers, aliases, timers, variables -- T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then show a couple of lines under that, that is the time taken to evaluate triggers T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 12 enabled, 7 regexp, 5652 attempts, 32 matched, 0.003704 seconds. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 12 enabled, 7 regexp, 5652 attempts, 32 matched, 0.003704 seconds. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Triggers: 13 in world file, triggers enabled: yes. [Triggers] T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: reverse those in order, but that what you're asking for? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, and I did restart the client T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it better now? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yep T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you've eliminated the only chance we have of finding what the problem was :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes that is it - looks like you spent 3 milliseconds evaluating triggers, that's OK T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: oh, after restarting T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there was a seceral second delay between hitting enter and the command showing in the screen (and aard excutung it) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh. (*giggle*) oops. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ok what figure do you have under the aliases? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient takes a little bit to actually display all the info T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I have: 2 enabled, 0 regexp, 1150 attempts, 0 matched, 0.031355 seconds. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: .000241 T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: is it slow now? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well, I quit the other quest, and I can quest again.. when I requested the quest is when it broke, shall I try it again? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ok, well next time it's slow, type "summary" (assuming you keep the plugin) and see if anything springs out at you. Those figures you posted for example, are under 1 second. If they suddenly start jumping up (eg. goes from 20 seconds to 22 seconds) then you are getting closer T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then you can "drill down" and look at individual items and see if you can isolate which one is doing it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I haven't extensively used it under Wine on the Mac, but I think maybe Fiendish has? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this quest didnt break anything.. only thing different is the one triggler which I disabled.. i know it's not written right T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: performance in wine is quite good T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wait T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hear that in australia "quite" means something else than what we usually mean in the US T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: tell me more ... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: ???? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: the only one I heard recently that caused a misunderstanding was ... well actually I can't mention in polite company T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if I'm given a meal and i say that it is "quite good", then that is a compliment T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: since when is aard "polite company"?? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I've heard that it might be an insult in australia, because of the different cultural perspective on the word "quite" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I would use it in that sense ... it is faintly critical in the sense that "it isn't perfect" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see, that's not meant to be critical at all T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "quite good" here means "very good" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: but the australians should be too busy breaking rocks to care T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, we'd say'd "not quite" to get that T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I would liken it to "damning with faint praise" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a country filled with such negativity ;) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: and such criminals T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, performance in wine is good T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: something close would be "not quite there" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and completly unrelated, my pet peeve is when people type "quite" when they mean "quiet". T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I quite quit being quite quiet T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyway.. had a trigger a bit ago go off, sent the gt message but didn't play the sound that it should have. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you sure it should have? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera laffs at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it does with the test T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I think your tone of voice is probably relevant here - it probably doesn't come across perfectly in writing T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: its own connotative antonym T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah, and the color codes didn't come through either... jsut got ignored.. I sent them as \@ T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: perhaps that is not the right way to send them T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the slash, AT sign, and the letter for which color were all ignored. weird T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: bear in mind the client treats @ specially (as in @variable) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: here's the command "Send("gt \@yQuest Mob:\@R @qmob \@Y- room:\@R @qroom \@Y- area:\@R @qarea")" and here's the output (no colors) (Group) Cera: 'Mob: a bowing servant - room: The Great Hall - area: The Drageran Empire' T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: the client treats @something as a variable, to send @ to the MUD you need to put @@ in the string T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: it would have looked up the variable @yQuest T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so not \@ but @@? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes it says in the help for triggers: If expand variables is on (checked) then a variable name in the format @name is expanded. To put a @ symbol itself in the trigger, use two @@. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I'll try that. I was using the \ to escape the character T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: as for the sounds, there are a few ways of playing sounds, we need more details T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: Fiendish - in the Group window, if I have left my group, and mouse-over the group window, balloons pop up with my HP etc. even though the bars have gone T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah. indeed they do T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: actually I didn't leave the group, I must have been kicked - which is strange because I was the only one in it. Maybe I annoyed myself T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: disconnected? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok guys, you have been a HUGE help, thanks. and sorry if I drive y'all crazy over the near future as I learn this client. but its time to goto bed. Thanks again. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: no problemo T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes, possibly. And I just noticed this: DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: automatic mapper database backup T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: surely there is something I can touch? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yourself T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the message should only take about a second T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: looks like it took under a second T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm...there seems to be a deficiency in gauge.lua T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't safely create multiple gauges with the same name T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this wouldn't be a problem if the name weren't used as part of the bubble display T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm going to add a new field for hotspot id, distinct from name T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: hmm ok - you have multiple HP bars? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: multiple players in the group T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: each player has one T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ah, so T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I could just name them with player names T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that will do for now, but it still seems like a deficiency T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ah you see your extension of the basic design also brings out its flaws ;) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: what time is it where you are Fiendish? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 4am T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: thought so - sleep not on the agenda? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not usually T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll go to sleep in about an hour. sleep for maybe 6 hours, then get up and have brunch with my friends T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: sounds like a nice plan T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a posh life T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: port out, starboard home, huh? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's only better than left and right if someone is facing the wrong way :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but in a manner of speaking, sure T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: your comms log seems to cope with reasonably long chat sessions in it - mind you it is starting to look *slightly* slower T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it has a 10,000 line history T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it only gets slow if you resize T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: rather, while resizing T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: seems OK so far T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I might reduce the history buffer T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I like comprehensive histories T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: whenever mushclient 4.74 comes out, it will also have the ability to click on hyperlinks T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: is that the hotspot change? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yup T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: well there is no real reason to hang back, if you are happy with how it is working for you T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mostly to get rid of underline flicker when transitioning from one line of a long url to the next T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Can you add Slayers gquest finder too? 9-) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since it's technically two hotspots T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't even know what a gquest finder is T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: who was that addressed to? I don't recall that one T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc was being a smartass, sorry. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: looks like time to prepare dinner so I'll leave you to have a pleasant evening T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks for stopping by. the notes have been helpful T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: g'dday! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: no worries! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you just completely aussied the channel T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gdday no worries indeed T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: How do I echo a gmcp variable in mushclient ? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: gmcpdebug T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Typing it just makes it a command in mud :\ T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: type gmcpdebug 1 T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: or 2, 0 to turn off T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Hmm don't think it's working T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: do you have the gmcp hander plugin installed? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: How do I check that ? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: if you do it should say something like GMCPdebug : simple or off or something T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: erm press ctrl alt p T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: It said that, but nothing else happened T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: oops not ctrl alt p T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: after that you need to do stuff T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I moved around, casted spells etc. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: once its enabled to simple or extended? you can do stuff like sendgmcp request char T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: weird T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: enable gmcpdebug, quit and log in again T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: For "working with data" (sets) , any thoughts on learning Python vs. C# ? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: perl T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Perl was initially made spoecifically for data set manipulation. But if those are your only two choices, go with python. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: is there any easy way to use the mapper commands to run to the start of an area? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: how please? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: remember the room number and goto it? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: urgh.... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: check out the mapper commands by clicking that little ? in the upper right corner T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Find the room number and make an alias for it. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: or type mapper help. same thing. :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: that means making an alias for very single area.. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can you set keywords to names? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: erm, to rooms T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is not that bad. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: not sure what does that mean T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: set a keyword to a room, so you can run to verume instead of 12345 T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko listens closely. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: wait. you can do that? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i dunno, that's what i'm asking :P T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: oh. rofl. that would rock if you could. there's probably a way, with a script of some sort. *shrug* T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can in cmud's mapper, if you can't in mush you should bug fiendish to add it, cause that's a rather important feature imo T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: weren't people using some sort of thing to replace runtos with portal + runto before the mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You can learn sqlite and just search the mapper db T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: make an alias that utilizes variables, set the variables up. done. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that involves work though, mieko T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: or, if you can do pre-substitution on a command, just create a variable, sub in the number, and send the command. dunno if that's supported or not. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you're right, and Xaxz has a better idea, but it involves work also :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it would be better if it just stored the keywords in the mapper db i think T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the problem is that i don't know how to make a list of area names that converts to roon numbers T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: room* T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could just store them all in a lua table T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: is there any sample I could refer to? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why don't you just make an alias of mapper goto number for whatever area? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: you'd need a crapload of aliases. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: and it might be hard to transfer them if required T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: as i said though, it would be nice if you could do this with existing mapper commands... ;) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: the current mapper commands are really powerful, I think there's resistance to make them more powerful. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: alright, i'll go put up an request on the addon page T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: There are implementations out there available to Fiendish. I'm sure there are particular reasons he hasn't included them, though. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, this just seems like a rather basic feature, that i'm surprised it doesn't have... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it wouldn't make it too much more powerful anyway, it's easy enough to work around it with one alias and one lua table T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the current mapper is able to runto a particular room you specify now, but if you don't know the name of the start of the area, you can't runto it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right, that's why the keyword thing is useful T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Doesn't even require a lua table. Searching the db for the nearest room with uid "zoo" is a rather simple script... again, Fiendish would be the one with his reasons not to include it. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably inefficient to find the shortest sw from 100 hundred rooms T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: doesn't "mapper find zoo" already do that? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: mapper find zoo does it? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Mapper find is used to find a room T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you can click those links T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm talking about the area keyword stored for every room in the mapper db. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the second is the start of the area T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: but it also gives you the shortest route to the room (excluding portals) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: it includes portals you set in T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thats why i'm wanting to use it instead of runtos to get to the start of an area T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: There is no current way to do what you're all asking to do without a seperate command. I use one of those scripts. There is no public one avaialable at this time. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: isn't there also a "mapper area " feature? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: available* also T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No, that searches your current area for a specific room T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the mapper area works perfectly when you're in the area T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: we know that, xaxz, no one said it's possible to do it currently... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Baconist and Kirua were beginning to suggest it was possible using current commands. =) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: a search on the net popped this out http://swalec.wordpress.com/swalecs-srun-plugin/ T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: not sure if it's relavent T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that was a primitive mapper type system, iirc T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: how do i delete a custom exit that messed up T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: that I mapped T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Go to the room, type "mapper delete cexits" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: just redo it. I think it will overwrite the messed up one T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: oh. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It won't rewrite if the new one leads to a different room iirc T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: thank you, accidentally made one on a random room during a rt T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: xaxz is correct T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the gmcp mapper does not include a function for going to the nearest room in another area. I specifically chose to not replace runto. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone have a script to control itunes with cmud? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Hmm, Bast Events miniwin plugin stopped working. No window appears. Tried latest Aard MUSH and latest Bast plugins. Any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try "mev events info" to see where it is and whether it is hidden or not T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks! It is not shown. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then do "mev events toggle" T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Awesome. Thanks, it is really nice. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Restoring an older Aarwolf.db backup? Just copy the db file from the backup to MUSHclient? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes. Just overwrite the current one. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you have the file zipped, you will need to unzip it and copy that file to the main folder for MUSHclient. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: need to restart the client then? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reload the mapper. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's the best way, yes. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest closing MUSHclient and copying and pasting then re-opening MUSHclient. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: That sounds good. Thankskillit pretty T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Er, That sounds good. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli peers intently at Arnica. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You have an alias "killit pretty" huh? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I have an alias killit that accepts an argument, yes. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That just doesn't make sense, though. :P T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: anyone very familiar with zmud mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: if i have script in mush that uses variables how do i get it to save the variables between sessions? Right now if i close mush all my variables are set back to default T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: In the declaration, have save_state="y" and then in the OnPluginSaveState() function use SetVariable("variable", value) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: And then if the script doesn't need to send anything to the MUD upon loading, use OnPluginInstall() and put variable=GetVariable("variable") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: where would i put the onpluginsavestate function? I just generated this script using the automatic generator from a few aliases and triggers T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anywhere, really T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It's not easy to explain that in a one-line tech comment. Have a look at one of the plugins included with the aardclient. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Some are smaller than others and more simple to traverse. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: when i open up ones that i didn't write it seems they are all one long line and hard to read? are there any readers that would help rather than notepad? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Use Notepad++ T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: My personal favorite editor is Ted Notepad T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: notepad++ ftw T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Notepad++ is where it's at! T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: I'll agree on notepad++, it is an awesome editor. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: editpadpro ftw, but it's not free ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Scite is good too T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I like notepad2, its way simpler than notepad++... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc yearns for the day that bare bones ports stuff to winderz T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HomerSimpson Tech: what's complicated about notepad++? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: if only notepad++ could do a dual xml/lua file format highlighter - I know I could set one up myself - but that looks like a lot of work :) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I just toggle them. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: hehe gotta learn to live without syntax highlighting T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't need xml highlighting T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just xml folding T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I generally deal without syntax highlighting, sometimes it's helpful if I'm cramming strings together and such.. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's just difficult to tell a program to infer that it should do lua highlights when the file has a .xml suffix T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why wouldn't one want syntax highlighting? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because the xml part of a plugin is not that important T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Not terribly necessary.. just a luxury T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just set everything to lua highlighting T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: luxury? it's a standard T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means in general from bob's comment, fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless you only use it for todo lists T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahhh... right. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: we're talking scripting, remember? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when writing code, there's no downside to using it other than setup...it'll show you errors, help you find stuff, etc T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: an old colleague of mine never used syntax highlighting and I used to berate him for it. he once made a change to the code that he thought was cleaner but broke visual studio's colorization, so I hit him with a book and reverted it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I agree that it's incredibly handy.. I've found myself in situations where I haven't had it and done fine. You tend to learn your own common mistakes, afterall T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, and I'll do fine without the power steering pump working in my car too... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm just arguing that it's not a make-or-break for scripting. Standard, however, sure. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that said, I'm usually doing the bulk of the file before the first save, so no highlighting ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is for me, actually T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I never look at my aardwolf plugins without colors. there's just way too much code complexity in some of them T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you tell your editor to treat all .xml files with lua syntax? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can change the highlighting on the go T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, but then you'd have to do it for every file, every time you open it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I probably should, since the odds of me wanting to look at a non-lua xml file are actually rather low T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what the bulk of your stuff is T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: xml is actually a rather crap system for storing data the way most people use it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: vehicle mission files at my old ojb were stored as xml. it made them way longer than they should have been. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: er job T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vehicle mission? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: emission? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the thing about autonomous submarines is that you still have to tell them what you want them to do T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, it's the autonomous submarine part that I was missing :-) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: AardMUSH. Is there a way to list all loaded miniwindows? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes. one second. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?searchfor=windowlist T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: if you load the Summary.xml plugin and type 'summary' you see all sorts of stuff including thaty T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: er, that T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: TY T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: locking up is not the phone's fault T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nice fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if the script was written in Lua for mudlet, why is it so hard to convert it to mush? :( T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because the lua part isn't much of the code T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua is more of a framework/typer/stylesheet T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: also.. someone else wrote it and I don't know Lua. (*bigger frown*) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any of the functions that you're using are program-specific T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you looking to do? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: whatcha tryin to do? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, its the function that's giveing me the curent problem. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: you can ask nick gammon T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I do a con all in mudlet, i get the mobs name, gold for good, red for evil, white or neutral, then instead of the reg consider message I get something like "is 21 to 32 levesl higher then you" with is and you in white, and the rest in a specific color, the righer the mob, the more red, then yellow, hten gree, and lowest levels in blue. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm sure that exists for mush already, it's a rather common script T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that was another question... other then the ones Fiendish wrote and come with mush, where can I find current scipts? most of the ones I found on mushclinet are fromm 2008 or earlier T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: finger bast T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And ask here, a lot of stuff has already been done. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thankstech -h T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: damnnit T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cera, also check out the comli site in help www, and I've got a couple timy plugins that I wrote for friends T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: why are most plugins I've seen involve mini windows.. there's only so much screen real estate... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why they're miniwindows T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and bast doesnt have anything like the consider one I want T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows take up *MUCH* less real estate than the previous windows T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what would you rather have that takes less space than a miniwindow? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how about I call up the info I want when I want it inthe main window. (*shrug*) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is agreeing with that Siren Cera person again... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper hide/show already exist T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: chats hide/show already exists T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That's how all my cmud/zmud scripts operate. I have a command to show stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which other miniwindows should have hide and show aliases T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: groupoff/groupon already exist (though I admit not symmetrical to the others) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hiding the automap just doesn't make sense T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but the other standard miniwindows already have hide/show aliases T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so the complaint isn't that you can't do it. perhaps the complaint is that you don't know how to do it T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there is ALOT I dont know how to do. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and if you still don't like the idea of miniwindows, I will refer you to this page of the guide about why your opinion is wrong. :) https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/WhatMakesThisSpecial T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no no no. I dont dislike miniwindows. sheesh T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm just teasing you T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hope at least that the aliases I've just listed are helpful T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm... ok T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm off to make dinner now. late T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, one more thing T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera, the reason why scripts are hard to convert from one client to another, even if they all use Lua, is that the major complexity of writing a script has nothing to do with the language. The Lua part really doesn't matter. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the part that doesn't translate is what is called the client API. special mudlet-only functions are not necessarily the same as mushclient functions T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes! (*sigh*) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Is there any way to get sound working on my laptop while in safe mode? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: safe mode isn't intended to be the way to routinely operate the machine... T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's the only way I can use this computer, short of reformating T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: And I don't have the OS discs T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spend more time fixing that, less time playing :P T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I've already given up T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: msconfig is your friend T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: For what? A selective startup? Or enabling soudn? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but short answer is, pretty much the whole point of safe mode is that it doesn't load unnecessary stuff T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: on a linux installation where do you put executables to make them global so you don't have to type ./ to run them T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll let you selectively (and temporarily) enable & disable stuff to narrow down the offending stuff, until you find what combination gives you a bootable/usable system T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akuri, you put them into somewhere that is in your $path variable T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: /bin T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /usr/local/bin is a good place for everyone to access T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't recommend /bin, that's meant for stock system stuff T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok thank you T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin are basically the core stuff, extra-but-pretty-stock stuff, and guy on this machine stuff, in that order T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: are you referring to the startup stuff? Or the services? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: just small bin bash scripts T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inicus, both T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inicus is on a different topic, akuri :-) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh yeah, I'm too lazy to go through all of those and google what is what T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: oh lol T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so don't google...turn off half, try it out T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: there a way to stope the bastmush update pop up window? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (MUSH) if I have a variable A and one called B, and A=1 and B=2, would this work Send("say @A + @B = @A+@B") and get [say 1 + 2 = 3]? if not, how would I get that? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Send("say + = " .. +) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Send("say @A + @B = " .. @A+@B) T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: do you have to expand variables with scripts T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. do that too T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, outside the quotes. and I can add more stuff by concating with .. and more quotes? Send("say !!A + @B = " .. @A+@B .. " Good!") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: do you have to expand variables when using GetVariable. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: apart from your !! typo that'd work T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: getvarible? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: GetVariable("A") T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is almsot the same as @A and enabling expand variables T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: note the caps T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: just wondering T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what about [if @A == 1]? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: where do I find syntax for if statements? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if then elseif then else end T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ==, ~=, <, <=, >, >=, not, and, or T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: [if == 1] would almost certainly be a syntax error T3/r3/2011-06-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: [if @A == 1] T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: meh. I want to write a hunt sfcript that will unt 1.mob, 2.mob, 3.mob... until it finds the right number. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: already exists T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: really? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: pretty easy to write though. i wrote one awhile back. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thecreator, bast's plugins includes bast_hunt.xml...that's an autohunt and hunt trick in one T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: mush question about color syntax? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone know how to change the colour of the line you trigger on? Not in a client, but in a plugin T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does anyon have any ideas why the safely remove hardware and eject media button would not be working? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i click on it and nothing happens T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there any plugin for mush designed to make equipment monitoring easier? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Does anyone have Steam installed T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hi there, hopefully guru Fiendish is around for this one - for mapper portals, is there a way to delete by an index, rather than the whole alias? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: in google docs spreadsheet how do i fix a row so it doesn't get sorted (for instance if its my row with the description of a column? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i have steam installed T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: i found a zone repop script for mushclient on gammon's website, how would i install that? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's probably an out-of-date script T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: know where i can find one? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since repops are notified via GMCP now T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, amazing...bast doesn't include a repop notifier in his stuff...OK, to install stuff from gammon's forums, select the code text, paste it into a text editor (notepad is OK, but don't use wordpad or MS word, they're not good with plain text), save it as aard_repop.xml or similar name in the worlds/plugins folder, go to file -> plugins, click add, select it T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: thanks abe T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: I was trying to get Bast scripts working yesterday, but I can't get any of them to show up T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pane, you have a folder in your worlds/plugins called "Bast"? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (already unpacked, no longer zip) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: yes, got that far. I tried adding a couple of them through file-plugins T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did any errors pop up when you tried adding them? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: no errors, it says they are loaded and enabled T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only about 1/2 of his stuff has any user-visible interface T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like all of the broadcast stuff is back-end, nothing you'd see T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: ahha T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the _mw stuff is the visible part T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: I loaded quest and cp broadcast, expecting to see a miniwindow T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: broadcast is the name for what one plugin does to send info to other plugins T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so those ones gather the data and let other plugins use the data T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: do you remember, should I load "miniwin_quest" to use the quest status stuff? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to bast's site, click on wiki, then hit the + next to bast's plugins...he describes what each of the plugins do with pictures T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: Bast quest window is working now:) Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yay! T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, silly question for anyone who may know offhand...I'm looking at Bast's wiki page for his new v6 base_spellup, and it has a "bsp list" table shown...one column is "not practiced", and another is "not learned"...whazza diff? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: could "not learned" mean if you're not high enough level to get the spell T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard uses "above 1%" for learned, so I'd use the two terms pretty interchangeably...too lazy to read his code to see what criteria he uses ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Um - no it doesn't - aard uses 1-100 as learned, not over 1 T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: type learned, and you see any spells which are in your class and level T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help spells:Learned - abilities that have been practiced above 1% T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: abe is talking about filtering 'spells' command, not the learned command T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: slightly different T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not really T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can in fact go above 100% T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, yes, bast uses 1% for not practiced and 0% for not learned T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, with instinct and whatnot, yeah T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apparently I wasn't too lazy to read the code :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is this where I should get Bast's plugins? http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Bast/ T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's pretty much always best to finger the guy making stuff to see where he puts the latest versions T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: While I've got you, Fiendish, do you have plans for being able to delete portals in mapper based on index #? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uh T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because right now you need to match the whole alias command T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure why not. post it as an idea T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it will tell you deleted 'command' even if it doesn't exist T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so both file a bug and post a suggestion on my website T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: both great feedback T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: on their way T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only reason I'd care is that I include swapping out items with the portal commands - so I need to change them when I change my held/dual items T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use a variable T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In the mapper portal command? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rem wear portalname wear T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, or just abstract using portals in general and use that T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Will that parse before it hits the server? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll defer to fiendish, but it should T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i use one port alias that does get %1 bag, wear %1, enter, wear @wornportal, put %1 bag, if anyone's interested T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Same here.. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But is that held in a client alias, or in the mapper portals? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's a client alias T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use a client-side alias...have the mapper use the alias T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then my portals in the mapper are port academy, port honeybomb, etc T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: honeycomb, rather T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So when the mapper sends input to the mud, it goes through the client alias parser before sending? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh that's much better than what I'm doing - excellent T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mapper uses Execute() rather than Send() T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, good thing you asked and said why you cared :-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you were swapping ALL portal definitions out every time you changed offhand weapon? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'll still throw the enhancements up, but I'd say they'll be far less used than I thought :-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, it's a good enhancement request T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the index exists, might as well be able to use it T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I was only using the one portal, as I couldn't be bothered changing all of them as you said T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now I can start using my collection T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Does Bast's miniwin gq plugin fire on gq's? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it certainly has a name that sounds like it would T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you read the wiki page about it on bast's site? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ohh T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: it probably does. I know the quest mw didn't open until I took a quest T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It pops up a 'gqavailable' miniwin - then changes once you join T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from the wiki page on it, at the top Troubleshooting section: .the miniwindow will not show until gquest info has been received T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'd go with the events miniwin in conjunction though, much cleaner T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hmmm I can't label my issues raised in the repo as bug or enhancement :-( T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: done T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, that's an admin thing, then? Not a tracking system I'm familiar with. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: couldn't say T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have no trouble doing it T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but maybe just because I know how T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: More than likely the case :-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: does anyone know if the align aure (R) and (G) are always listed last of all the Arua's? It's always followed by the mob disc? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: sanc (white aura) comes after alignment T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I did the wrong colors, but you get the idea T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok.. that's a problem. hmm.. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm sure there's a way to do whatever you're doing without the order mattering T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I can match (R)(W) and (R) .. I need to know which wildcard is the mob's name... and it'll change if it's sanc'ed of not T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: speaking of which, anyone have a website with some good guides for mushclient trigger editing/creation? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the basics are covered on the muchclient site T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: looking at other plugins is a great placce to start, to learn T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy n T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I don't believe easy n is supported. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: easy e is also no longer supported. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dokkar . o O ( maybe Akuri had a seizure or something? ) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of an application for Windows 7, that works like GNU Terminator for Linux/Unix? But instead of multiple terminals, have multiple putty sessions. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger . o O ( Unless stargate hit the nail on the head ) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: total mis T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: In mushclient, is there any way to disable a named group of triggers that were set up by a plugin, from the command line? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: DisableTriggerGroup("trigger group", false) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Err, enabletriggergroup T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I thought it would be EnableTriggerGroup... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers with FootLong Cheezburger about their shared secret. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: How do I get that to work in the command line? Could I put it into an alias and set it's Send To to Script? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: /EnableTriggerGroup("", false) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You'd need a script prefix. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you don't have the / listed as your script prefix, it won't work. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: anyone who's familiar with bast mush know why I'd be getting runtime errors everything I try install one of his plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Windows 7? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: exit mushclient, move it someplace innocent like Desktop or My Documents T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: its on the desktop T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, you don't want it in program files if that's where mush is T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: ok, in that case try putting it someplace like c:\mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: ie. get rid of any spaces in the path T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where do you have bast's folder? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: worlds > plugins T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I tried moving mush to the c drive, didn't help T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Uhhh. Something happened to Bast's spellup plugin. I was afk, and when I came back.. it's apparently just spamming spell tags and number or something. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: And I'm seeing tags before channel names too, now. What the hell? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: turn tags channels off T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: 'kay.. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: anyway, just reinstall his plugins if they bug out T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: if it still doesn't work restart mush T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: That's weird, though. Why would that turn itself on without any input? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: the channel tags turn on automatically because of the communication log I think. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: the weird thing is that bast's plugins refuse to be uninstalled =P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: I keep removing his broadcast quest, and it keeps coming back T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Well, that sounds problematic. :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: it's like an unstoppable virus =P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: that's because you have to remove all of the broadcast plugins, as well as the miniwin that they run. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Bast's miniwin plugins are designed so that you only have to install the miniwin and then it calls whatever sub-plugins they require. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I removed his quest miniwin and his broadcast quest T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: but it still keeps coming back T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: broadcast isn't part of the quest plugin, it's part of the VI plugin, IIRC. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Ooooh, I see what happened. I disabled triggers in the client. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: vi? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: that's not the actual name of the plugin... I'm not on mush ATM or I would be more help lol. Trying to explain from memory. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: haha okay T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: One sec. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Oh, and thank you. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have been writing so many lua plugins, i've forgotten how to code C# T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do I need to escape out a ! like i do a ? and a period? (MUSH) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is gmcp group.members.(member).qs a binary value (1 and 0)? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dunno? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: No, it's based on position in the group. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Group leader is 1, second person invited is 2, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki page tells you what it means T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not position in group, it's quest status T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Oh, qs. Missed that qs part. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Then yeah, still not binary. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a command to get the aviable colors to use in mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ctrl alt p T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that brings up a printer window... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: The printer one is ctrl+p, ctrl+alt+p is the color picker. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, ctrl alt p T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there another way to get to it? ctrl+p AND atrl+alt+p both bring up my printer window. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps check your macro preferences? In CMud, I believe there's a way to alter how ctrl-alt or somesuch is handled. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah. ctrl+command+P. sorry guys, i'm on a mac. :) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: down with the macs T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Down with pants! T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: macs rule. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm ok with down with pants. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: does anyone know where I'd go on a windows 7 laptop to make it where I can use the f-keys without pressing the fn key? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, that's edit menu -> colour picker T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's not set to do so by default, Jek? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jek, that's usually a hardware thing T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: meaning I need to tape the damn key down? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it doesn't have an actual fkey row, but uses Fn + a number T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: there should be a function lock T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: /should/ T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: taping the key down means that other keys won't work correctly...chances are u-p, h-;, m-/ are your numpad T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: "Should" leads down a road made of tears. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu laffs. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: it doesn't have any of that :/ T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: all the fn key does is makes press the f keys, make them work as an f key T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: That's generally one of the things you should check on a laptop before buying it: Is the keyboard complete rubbish. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do the fkeys do otherwise? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Shameful Dugrant, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what model laptop is it? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: a LOT of laptop keyboards are worthless like that. You may want to just invest in a good wireless keyboard/mouse combo. You can get them fairly compact size these days. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that defeats the purpose of a laptop for most uses... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: yeah, the keyboard anyways... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Not really, I keep one with my laptop. It doesn't really add to the size. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm on a PC, but the Fn key makes them act as built-in macros for stuff like sleep, email, and volume control. They act as F# keys without the need to press Fn. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Not much anyway. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't use your laptop T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Hard to use my desktop when I'm in a hotel room T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Some people still use a laptop as a mobile computer... not their everything computer. Rare I know. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when using a laptop as a mobile computer, adding bulk and weight to what you're mobilely lugging around is not a good thing T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: My keyboard combo is 12" long and weighs about 4 ounces. I'd hardly call that back breaking. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I'll probably break down and get one :(, o well T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, then you don't use your laptop :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: If you wanna lug your desktop on buisness trips... you're free to ;) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: decent laptops are pretty small nowadays. Any addon that approaches the size and shape of standard PC keyboards would probably fit well in the laptop's carry case along with it. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shameful Dugrant nods at Dokkar. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: decent laptops that are small are small for a reason... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because the people who get/use them want small/light...lugging around 2 keyboards defeats that T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I'd hardly call 4 ounces "lugging". I'd call designing laptop keyboards to be so crappy to be defeating the purpose too. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you've either got a very small/light keyboard with zero action and/or off spacing, or you've got a not-insignificant amount of size and weight T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Remind me not to live in your world Abe... I don't think I could live with such polarization. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot have a very small/light keyboard which also has both action and proper spacing. physics wins. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Interesting that I managed to find one then. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do live in my world, you just compromise more :-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you didn't T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just live with what you found T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works for your use, and that's great for you T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, dunno what's weird about me not compromising as much as you're willing to when it comes to keyboards and portability :-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of people use mushy keyboards plugged into their PCs as well T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: mushy keyboards? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at You, Kurojiryuu. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I didn't compromise though. I use the same keybord on my desktop. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: what are mushy keyboards? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It's an awesome keyboard... cost a bit but was worth it. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't make it not a compromise T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: So you compromise in a differnt way, so it goes. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kuro, mushy in the action when you press a key T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: metal switches ftw T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: there a visual difference using hdmi vs dvi? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Linoge, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: We need to go back to the age of dials and knobs. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: hdmi was built offf of dvi T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: and those little gauges that don't actually mean anything but whip around like crazy. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine goes to 11 T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: 12 for me T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://xkcd.com/670/ T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: First improvement on that joke I've ever seen. :) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xkcd often is :-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I loaded a new plugin, and it broke my big mapper... when I try to reload it, it says there's a problem, see for more info, then shows me the code for the plugin T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the new plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: by blainer T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: found a consider plugin that's better then what I was building. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'd hardly call that new if he hasn't been on for 312 days. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fine, new for me. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: posted on the mush forems in 2009 T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Using stuff that's probably been improved upon by now... :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but how do I figure out whats wrong with the bigmapper? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try adding it again, take down the message it gives T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli imagines Cera with a sniper gun, just waiting for the right time to take down the message... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: last mort I had ore teleports T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: how do I add a note that the door to the east should be opened on mapper T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: use cexits T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: mapper cexit op e;e T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: sweet, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I believe you have to double the ; T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Must use 2x semi colon in a row to get it to pick up the command seperation T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or was that changed? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, good, I wasn't wrong }:> T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: no you do have to use two T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ;;! T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ,-,-, ';;' ,-,-, T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Scary x.X T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: english only T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: =( T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: that's a bat! T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: dot-dash-dot-dot-dash-dot-dash-dash-dot T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Xie xie! T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Someone who knows morse, tell me what i said T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you said nothing T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your dots & dashes weren't separated into letters T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu laffs. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: -.-. --.- T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: 1001101001101011010010? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, not separated into characters :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Abe, binary doesn't have to. 8-bits for letters. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: binary to ascii has a value for a space: ) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: letters don't have to be 8 bits, depends on the encoding T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ASCII codes for lowerase letters are from 97 to 123 I think. There is no need for space when you are writing english words T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so old gave 2530002 :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Well, If your writing characters that require more or less, then you probably would need some indicator that a new character is starting. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly...and since what he gave wasn't a multiple of 8 bits... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp doesn't put spaces. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: he probably just spammed a random number of 1's and 0s T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It translated aardwolf is awesome to 01100001011000010111001001100100011101110110111101101100011001100010000001101001011100110010000001100001011101110110010101110011011011110110110101100101 T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Aardwolf sees you as a combination of 8bit binary characters. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and even that site says that his was malformed binary ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: %think Not EBCDIC, though T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but some guy's site doesn't make it correct that you don't need spaces ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf sees me as 7-bit binary characters T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure there are no spaces in my harddrive T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Want me to add some? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh noez! winderz doesn't like it when hard drives have no spaces T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: btw that website addes spaces T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oldham, spaces encoded in binary T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he doesn't mean the binary for space... T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means spacing out the binary bytes to have demarc T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since my complaint of yours was that we don't know where one letter begins and another ends T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: 00100000 is a space T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah, so letters don't need to be separated by a space. They need to be separated by 00100000's. That's why you see no real spaces T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this reminds me of vidblain for some reason T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at her saying. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: eachletter is 8 valuestech you dont need spaces ebetween letters that would be weird T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each letter is only 8 values when using an 8-bit character space...and you gave 22 values in yours :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: mine was rubberish T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It shared characteristics with rubber? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and liquor T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: nodnod, and liquor. Totally. T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What's the URL to the most recent fiendish package for aardmush? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: finger might melt :P T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you shouldn't be running the latest package T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there a reason why char.status is being sent when reading notes? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you use pager, do you auto-stand when you get to 100%? T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Shouldn't be T3/r3/2011-06-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll be sent when writing notes, not when reading them T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, char.status is sent when hunger/thirst changes, so you may have been reading a note as a tick dropped them T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: interesting, it seems to only happen on test port T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is fiendish around? my bigmap mini window is gone.. I need to try ang get it back? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when what? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: probably now, just guessing. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: how? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: why? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what happens when you type bigmap on? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I installed another plug in (and older one) and it made a bunch of the mini windows go byebye, I got them all back (by reinstalling them) but the big mapper wont come back T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm.. lets try it and see T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: so you were misbehaving... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: says bigmap enabled.. but no mini window T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ezexp.bot.ver3.12 T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: by blaine from Aug 2009, it's a consider one. want the link? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm? we aren't allowed to install other plugins? :p T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ignore them T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I was kidding, sorry. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9681 T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: installed accordign to his directions, it's working fine. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you installed this plugin and everything disappeared? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you sure you didn't do anything else? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: most everything. bigmapper, group moniter, chat window, and stats window. not the main and not the ascii mapper. got it all back except for the bigmap T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if I did, I've no idea what. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you manually hid them. this has nothing to do with that plugin T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: my noobish advice, keep a backup client, especially when modify your working client. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type mapper show T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh? how do I manually unhind them? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: says that not a command T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: sage advice Sheni T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't have the gmcp mapper installed? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: umm... let me check... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah! there it is! T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this goes back to the conversation from the other day. you were all like "I don't like miniwindows. teach me how to hide them." So I told you all the hide/show aliases for each plugin T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the gmcp handler isn't installed either.. that wrong? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you upgrade to the latest snapshot, that won't be possible T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that's not what I was saying.. but I didn't intentionaly hide anything T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I saw there was a new one.. I clicked "show me" but it didn't, so I'll go get it myself T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it didn't? what did it do? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: went away like I clicked later T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and why only tell me now? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um.. cuz I can go get it myself? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish begins to shake her head and tsk into nothingness. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when something doesn't work properly, please let me know T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok. sorry... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you remember what the message said? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my mapper doesnt auto go to quest/cp/gq mobs! its BROKEN! T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did it have a list of changes in the new version? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it was the one that pops up on open to see if there is a (beta) updated snapshot, said there was one, 10something, I clicked "show me" and it closed. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: would you mind testing something for me? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in two minutes? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder if anyone else has this same problem T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, whatcha need me to do? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: press Ctrl+I and then paste the following into the box and click run: print(OpenBrowser("http://www.purple.com")) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and tell me what happens T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 30013 showed up on my screen, in the mian mud window T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for some reason mushclient wasn't able to launch your web browser T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll try to display an error message when that happens T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I have firefox (prefered) and safarri installed T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah. this could be related to running on a mac. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure how the openbrowser call would get handled by xquartz T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: it doesn't operate right on TRS80 either :( T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, thanks for checking T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: unrelated to your plugins.. I've a trigger that workes.. mostly. I told it to play a sound and send some message to gt, and it's only sending hte message, not the sound. others work, but this one no. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think someone else reported something similar and I had them just recreate the trigger and it started working T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: optionally, is there something wrong/different with the sound file? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, i'll try that. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do other triggers use the same sound file? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nope. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: test if there's a problem with the file by telling other triggers to use it and by telling this trigger to use a different sound T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm. I removed it and am recreating it. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: alternatively, there are a few script functions that you can use to play sound files instead of the button on the triggers window T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'd like those anyway T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'd like those anyway T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: documentation for them can be found at http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Sound and http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=PlaySound T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah I found the PlaySound one, but it didn't work. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sending to script? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, the alias i jsut made worked.. maybe I didn't caplize it right, or it wasnt to script or who knows. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cool T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but this consider plugin isn't working right, and it doesnt do /exactly/ what I want, so I'll continue to work on mine. I made ask for a bit of help on the forums.. :p T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: made = may T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does your prompt end in %c? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it seems like the major problem in that thread you posted was that someone didn't have a %c ending their prompts T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, here's something that's not cool. I like to play a sound when I get a tell, and I wrote one, rather unelegante one. and I get the sound when someone sends me a tell, but I also get the sound when a mob send me a tell, when I get a quest, and if anyone on a channel says, "that tells you something!" or similar. how can I get it just when I get a tell from a player? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: me? yeah, my prompts end in %c T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: either trigger on the telltags or gmcp data T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gmcp can only be done inside a plugin T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so for a simple trigger, you'll want to go with telltags T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I thought it'd be something like that. I did it off the tell tags in mudlet, but the same string didn't work here. and I know less then nothing on tags and gmcp T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: write a script to catalog all players online, and only trigger sound off of tells from those people. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera laffs at Mieko. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you asked :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: triggering on tell tag works for me T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your pattern should be something like "{tell}*" T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yes, Fiendish has a more elegant solution, that's to be expected :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this is the string that worked in mudlet... ^(\{tell\})(\w+) tells you (.*) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't need to use regex for this T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I've been making them all regex, thought that was better? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's only better if you optimize the patterns T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no quotes, right? just {tell}* T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that pattern won't capture player name and message, though T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just that you got a tell T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that's all I need, it's knock sound.. so I know if I'm in a nother window. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: awesome! it works. thanks. :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera is so glad you can send yourself a tell. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if you have a sec... http://pastebin.com/6czuPf5A lines 104-118, is the syntax correct? someone wrote me a snipit, and I wans't entirly clear on how to use that part of the code... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that will give you parse errors T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that is clearly meant to go into a plugin. but the top part with all the trigger patterns needs to have the proper xml trigger tags that aren't there T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: take a peek at the top part of the included plugins in between T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to see how to set up plugin triggers T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, I know it's not ready to use, that's one reason I didnt load it up to test. but are those ColourTell's written right? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the first color value in the consider_messages table has a typo T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it should start with # T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sure should, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I don't see any reason to use two colourtells and a print at the end when a single colournote would work T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thats fixed. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: each consider message is different, how would you do it in one? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there are 13 different possibilies? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also you appear to be missing a bunch of if thens T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well fusk, T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I'll wait until the guy who wrote the snipit is back online and get his help. thanks T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wouldn't structure it this way at all T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd put the level range as a second parameter in the consider_messages table for each key T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well i'm sure you know eight different ways to do it and the experience to know which is best. :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, that's greek. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then just have a single ColourTell line that uses consider_messages[name][1] and consider_messages[name][2] T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh look! more greek. (*grin*) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud how do i retrieve value of a multi word key? between which type of bracket should i place it? tried () and " " and {} don't seem to work:P T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you mean like a variable? can't have spaces in those T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: nah value in datarecord T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so can' have multi word ones T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, sorry T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you can try [], <>, ' ' ? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: found the problem seems it was problem in my value name itself and not the multiword problem:) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: something more like this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ie6zmT8a T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: except with that typo fixed that I forgot to fix, and I think the level ranges might be wrong T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh! he sent me a note with a differnt code snipit.. with easier to understand code.. this is good. :) hehe T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: snippet T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Fiendish, this look better? still not a full fledged plug in, but getting there... http://pastebin.com/vxspwSsk T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the closing should be T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I like my version better. it doesn't have that horrible giant if/then/elseif sequence T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and ColourNote is more concise than ColourTell followed by print("") T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also there are typos in the level range messages T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "more then" should be "more than" T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you don't need the "is" in "is 32 to 41" T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and if name = "consider_annihilated" should be == instead of = T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: likewise for all subsequent comparisons T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: = is for assignment. == is for comparing T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anya Tech: anyone know how to open cmud's parent window? I accidentally closed it T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anya Tech: anyone know how to open cmud's parent window? I accidentally closed it T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Howcome xBroadcastGQ and xBroadcastCP always install when I open mushclient and give a very large error? How do I permanently uninstall them? (I think they are Bast's plugins) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: do you have %c at end of your prompt? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Are you using any of the miniwindows that show cp and gq info? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No I am not using CP or GQ miniwindows. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not having %c in prompt wouldn't cause an oninstall error, they'd just miss seeing stuff T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I DO have %c at the end of my prompt, though. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but we can't answer why they're giving an error without knowing the error they're giving T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Function/Sub: OnPluginInstall called by Plugin xBroadcast_GQ T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I don't care about the plugins, I just want to know how to disable them permanently. I uninstall them, save the world file, close Mushclient, reopen and they're back. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I get Bast's miniwin CP to fire? Does it require any others? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It requires broadcast_cp T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: .. And that requires? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: anyone here using Cmud that has a few second? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So, in mushclient, I sent a window to layer 4, so now it's not visible. How can I bring it back to layer 5? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: send the covering window back? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: No option to. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyleron Tech: Furen: I use CMUD. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I spellup T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: can anyone help with triggers in Cmud? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'm using a button_bar for mushclient, in the plugin I've used a variable called fire_spell and it's casting great. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: but the tooltip is not expanding the variable, it's showing as ire_spell T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oops, it's showing the at symbol and fire_spell T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: not a big deal, but anyone know why? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: is the tootlip info in quotes? ie tooltip='@fire_spell' T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: does the bsp help send text to a different window? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know if it's possible to mix two layers on OpenLayers with different projections? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: anyone know how to add spells to the bast spellup plugin/spell yourself up with it? I have some, but I forgot how I added them in. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try bsp help? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I think it's putting that in a different window. my reader won't read it all, and it's kind of blocking the rest of the text. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: bsp sadd 'spellname' T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I have a VI spellup plugin T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ahh nod T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no windows T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: In Lua, using string.match, how would I incorporate the regex search of (Possible1|Possible2|Possible3) ? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've nto been able to get that to work T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: at least not for gsub T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for gsub i could only get character subsets to work [a-z] T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ps there is a 5.1 lua bug for matching -, it wont' work T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_rex T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use re:max instead T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: re:match T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i haven't had a bonus TP in weeks T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is there an AardMUSH plugin or script that tracks session/long term statistics? The one in Mudlet is nice, as an example. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: anyone good with capture windows on zmud? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: since portals will have the location in IDENT doesnt that defeat the purpose of wayfind? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, wayfind works win room portals as well T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not a spell I'll miss. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also what cera said T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho wayfind is very useful in diamond reach when you're toggling your portal T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone willing to look at the code to my (first ever) plugin for mush, see if there's anything grossly wrong that I should fix before trying to run it? http://pastebin.com/8DrebMYU T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll peek at it T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cool T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 1) well done on named regex capture groups! T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: have you considered comcatenating the string parts together to do one colour tell? I don't know about timing.. and it probably cna't happen... but could another event fire in between two tell? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um.. you've gone well above my level of experience. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Sorry for not responding to the help earlier. Wound up taking off for important business. Apparently, it seems that CMUD doesn't allow for the rex.*** commands, and I don't know how to make it see it. :( T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I told a freind waht I basicly want to do, he wrote me a starter piece of code, I used it to fill in all the rest of the information. Now I want to make it installable. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, the what? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Regex pattern matching, Dokkar. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: CMud does regex too T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Since obviously I can't do ?:(Phrase one|Phrase two|Phrase three) in string.match or string.gsub. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Cera - well it's fine the way it is.. to install it all you should need to do is copy it to /mushclient/worlds/plugins/ and hit Control - Shift - p and add it... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not when coupled with lua. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And that's what I'm needing to do. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks.. I jsut wanted to make sure it had all the parts needed to make it an actual plugin and that they were in the right order, I'll test it now. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hopefully I wont break anything... :p T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: do what i did.. and it three times.. I will however be using Fiendish's suggestion of using the regex library instead T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^ run it three times T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what do you mean run it three times? once it's installed is there, right? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there = its there T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: WinkleWinkle: That's the thing... Apparently the lua aspect of CMUD isn't supportive the regex library, nor do have any idea if I can make it work together. But the problem lies in the fact that I have quite a bit more than just three phrases. That was just filler input. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Believe he was talking to me, Cera. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okie T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I responded to your forum post, Cera T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: basically saying all the same things I said last night T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the short answer is that it's NOT fine the way it is T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody here good with iptable's? i slowed down at the --cluster-hash in the man-page but understood/remembered where some useful stuff is, but i basically want to know why these rule's cause my internet to become totally unresponsive, if there's anybody here who knows it T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it lets me send but not to receive, like each request i make's response is blocked T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i only had a quick look at Cera's file T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: unplug the router T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now this doesnt make sense.. I got this error... Line 272: Elements terminated out of sequence, expected , got (Cannot load) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: plug straight to modem, problem solved T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I get the feeling that Cera ignores everything I say T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there's a ealier in line 189 T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Cera: If you want to see enter T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops, mis T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'll keep on reading if not, i can show you the rule's i started with if you like T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: he certainly seems to not realise you're talking to him :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera, you do NOT have a T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have a T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm sorry Fiendish, I'm not /trying/ to be diffcult. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see my forum response to your post T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: success without trying is the first sign of real talent T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hadn't checked the forumn.. sorry. :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Even if you get it to load, and the triggers are good, it isn't going to work the way you hope T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/?id=11178&page=999 T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your help alias is wrong, your trigger block termination is wrong, your comparison operators are wrong, and I'm pretty sure that your trigger patterns don't work :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: isn't there a plugin example on gammon.com that does almost the same as this plugin anyway? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: just read it T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: all the consider items will be on one line with no line breaks because you don't use colournote at the end of the line T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: makeing changes... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a print, Bast T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oh, the print, gotcha T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera, make the changes I suggest in the forum post and then double check your trigger patterns T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Cera: is this a learning experience? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it seems to be T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: her first plugin T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so i have a /sbin/iptables -P INPUT DROP (policy) then a /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -j LOG (appended to the default filter table) and an iptables -A INPUT -j DROP -> also the same 3 for ip6table's though i don't really use it, i'm not sure if any unix program's do that come with my installation, i can unintall that and see sometime T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes.. :) i'm learning lots. (mostly lots of /don'ts/) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it's the trigger patterns I was having the most trouble with, and I got Xaxz to help with that. *sigh* T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Etz, are you trying to create a trigger via lua T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mix T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: patterns don't really change much from client to client, though T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there are standards, at any rate T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they change enough that one cannot just plop mush code into CMud and expect anything to work. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: made the changes.. still errored out.. will post the messaage to forumn T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not mush code, but patterns would probably work, seeing as they both support regex T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Dokkar: Not a trigger. I have a function that gathers information from a website. However, the particular information I'm seeking can have different patterns, such as Result, or Findings, etc. So, I'm wanting to do something like string.match(page,"(?:(Results|Findings|whatever|here too|...))", but I can't do that. And can't use rex.*** because apparently the lua regex library isn't supported. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the problem seems to be that it doesn't inspect state's of connection's and considers response packets to my established connection's to be hostile, or else see's my router and consider's it a strange address, i'll just keep on reading though T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i remember openbsd's being similar but maybe a bit easier/locally well documented than this one, with more thorough example's and stuff T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera, I've responded T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I found a mistake.. prolly one you saw too.. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh, it loaded.... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: worst thing about debian so far is that it doesn't include a man-page for gcc 4.4 T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but yeah, not doing anything. (*sigh*) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm about to post again with the solution T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i have to visit the internet each time i want to see it, though i did download the gcc source code and there's probably a man file in there T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera perks up and stares intently at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: O.M.F.G. it works. :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: grats T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm actually giddy. :) (but then I *AM* a girl) LOL T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it only counts if you're a schoolgirl T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Girl stands for "Guy in real life," you know? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli runs away from Siren Cera in utter terror and horror! T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not for me.. I got boobs, a vava, and everything. :) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: Remarkable T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: A... vava? Is that baby talk for a bottle? I got boobs, too... :P T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: Moobs? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there a reason you didn't just change the output of http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10299 to include the level numbers? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Sommeil. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it already has all the pattern matching set T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, I want the mob name colored according to align, that one didnt do it. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You sigh. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it already had everything that you've been struggling against... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change 2 lines and it colors according to align T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I looked at that code and didn't understand most of it. Now I do. I don't see how this is a bad thing... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a bad thing if the goal was learning rather than a working plugin (I think that's why bast asked if it was a learning experience) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it's both. I got others I had in mudlet I want to convert too. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: reinventing the wheel is both a great learning tool and therapeutic. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the goal is a working plugin, and there's already a plugin that does 99.999% of the stuff you're looking for, then it's a hella lot less headache to work on how to do the last bit T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I understand your point. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only therapeutic when you're not frazzled from days of beating your head against the wall ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: amen to that T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: only really gor frazzled when I had a question and no one was awake I could ask. :p T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when am I not awake? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I can T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I can't answer that.. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I wonder about that too. I hear Fiendish's scripts are making other scripts now. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a GMCP or Tags messge when an area repops? (so you can script a repop GT without knowing all the various repop messages for each area)? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: TAG REPOP ON, script from there. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nice T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: go with dokkar's answer T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the tag in question is {repop}, by the way. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, next question.. is there a function that will create a mini pop-up that I can configure? (I'll look up and read about the command, but no idea what to search for) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, go with gmcp... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "mini pop-up" T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's a gmcp for repops now? awesome. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has been since before there was a tag, I believe T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but considering their technical ability, i'd go with the tag pop T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in zmud and mudlet, when an area repoped, a little box showed up, told me the area that repoped, then after a short time, went away.. like an alert dialog box? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, gmcp gets sent first, and is sent in a more-readable format, and all the work is already done T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean like a miniwindow? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or is cera not the person with the plugin problems just before T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in zmud/cmud, that is the #MESSAGE command T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not sure about making it go away automatically, but maybe you want http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.msgbox T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I was hoping for built in command, rather then writing a new one. yeah, the message command. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'll take a look at that/ T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know what the #MESSAGE command does T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it shows the user a popup messagebox that goes away after 10 seconds and displays whatever message was supplied by the coder. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the purpose of making it go away after 10 seconds? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cause it's a message window? :P T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, that will work. it'd be better if there was a type that did not require input form the user at all, and just went away after a specific timeframe, but I can work with that T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: shouldn't it wait for the user to acknowledge the message? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you probably don't want a little box that says QUEST TIME! hanging around in the middle of your screen forever T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it has an OK button for that T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not forever, just until it has actually been seen T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the timeout is for if the user decided not to press the OK button. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I liked that it didnt steal foucs, that I could continue whatever I was doing, and not have to worry about clicking it. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why would the user decide to not press ok? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not if the user decided not to press the OK button T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: iirc it doesn't steal focus, but it still shows on top of other windows T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the user didn't decide jack T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it didnt, i liked that. the one Fiendish sent me to will. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: because they were busy with something, say mud combat or busy with stuff in another window. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NOT doing something cannot be programmatically attributed to a user decision :P T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more creative definitions :P T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you want a flag for modal/modeless ok, but making it go away automatically is silly T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: only if you perfer it not to. if thats exactly what you want it's not silly at all T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: doesn the {repop} tag say what area it is? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the repop tag is just before a standard repop message T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so no T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, but gmcp does T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the keyword, at least. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why I suggested gmcp as the more useful way to get repop info T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok.. could still make it work... oh. gmcp... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: apart from that one.. it's been going ok? I've actually been using the bprompt and it's quite useful for knowing when to flee.. when i see a 260 in there.. it's time to go T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that a mis WW? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that was a mis! T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So I've pretty much figured out my problem regarding regex matches and lua. Note that I'm using CMUD. It just simply didn't occur to me that I had to require the proper files. However, if I do require "re", it tells me that it can't find the lpeg module needed, which I've downloaded the LPEG package, but there's no lpeg.lua. :( So I'm utterly confused right now. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: is there a way, using the mapper to return results to which a path exists? I'm trying to get a path to the first gauntlet room, but there are 52 rooms so it won't show them. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: the gauntlet is a maze so I don't think it will show you a path no matter what... could be wrong, though. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: it should show a path to the first room though. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Go to the first room of the gaunlet manually. use 'mapper thisroom' to find the room number. Then you can 'mapper goto ' as a run there. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: TheCreator nods. I just didn't remember the room. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Is there a way to setup a wimpy style trigger that will auto quaff a healing potion at a health level below a certain number of HP? (using the Aardwolf MUSHclient) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that could be illegal T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Really? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: my dad just called, he said he ran a speed test on his internet with his router connected and it was 6 (he didn't give units) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 6 is a good number T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: then he ran it again with the computer hooked directly to the modem and it was 25 T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Axident: see 'help botting' T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: why would it be so slow with the router? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 25 is also a great number T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it's wireless, it'll generally be slower than wired T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and what could he do to improve it (replacing the router is an option, but going without a router is not an option) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: the computer he was using was hardwired into the wireless router T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is he having issues? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: well i noticed when they are on the phone that the speed drops to like 0, (vonage) but other than that I don't think T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but i think he was annoyed when he ran that test T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: complain to vonage T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: where can i get tick counter on aard mush back T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: what did you do to it? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i dunno i dont see it tho T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: nm i see it now T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: maybe its just hidden, whats the alias to show? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: have you got the status bar showing? check under the view menu T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or someone just made an analog clock type miniwindow tick timer that you can't miss ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: I'm wanting to finally learn how to write my own plug-ins for mushclient for my personal uses, where is a good place to learn? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Youtube has a good video T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Beyond that, look at other plugins, the mushclient forums, and other people's simple plugins. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: should I start learning Lua? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It helps. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: excellent, thank you T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what sort of plugins are you intersted in? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I want one that will get t9 for me T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not even god could write you that one T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Botting is bad, mmkay? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you really don't need to learn lua to make plugins T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not god, Lasher. oh wait, same thing. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: I'm wanting to write a personal plugin for me that displays what affects I've got ect, ones like that T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: God would write it, then leave it out. Remember, it's "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord", not the other way around. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: browny points might help in getting to t9, but... T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Why would browny points help you to get to t9 T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Er, brownie.. T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and how would your affects get displayed? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kaalith, have you looked at the spellup plugin in bast's folder? T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: I just decided today that I wanted to customize my client for my uses T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm only asking because you might already find soemthing that might suit your purposes T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start with the aardwolf mushclient package, then finger bast & look at his site...there's a wiki on the site that tells what the various plugins do T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: okay T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or at least something close enough that you could learn from it T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaalith Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I upgrade mush from 3.72 to 3.73? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: How do I refresh my list of spells known in Bast Spellup? It currently thinks I don't know any spells T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: bsp sadd all T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: hmmm... no change. I still have stuff in the Not Learned column T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody here know c? if so, can you tell me about what this comma means? http://pastebin.com/ddyWLvPD T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it has been a long time since i read it, the comma seem's out of place at first, but it could be like that on purpose like i mention T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: hey. anyone that has netflix through their xbox 360 having any issues connecting to netflix? my husband's xbox isn't connecting netflix and he just got done watching something on it, the screen went completely blank, he turned the xbox off and back on again, and now when he tries to connect to netflix it just sits there and acts like it's trying to connect but doesn't. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: That's the syntax for initializing a struct at declaration. Best guess, is it's either one of two things, and I'm going to give the one I think is more likely first. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: There's a field in the struct that can be null, that corresponds to the 'nothing' after the comma, and whoever wrote it is leaning on the compiler to make the 'nothing' mean NULL. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Or, there's not and someone just threw in an extra comma. That one seems weird, but the first almost certainly invokes UB and is therefore dangerous. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The trailing comma was probably there as a mistake. I believe it does nothing as-is (i.e., if you removed the comma it would not have an effect(. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You often end up with the extra comma when you have more elements/lines, but remove the last few. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: How many members does GTypeInfo have? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i don't know, i'm just skimming the file's trying to find where the close() function that resulted in a core dump twice after creating two alias file's occurs, i forgot how to use a debugger and thing's like that (never was really good at it) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i was going to write a note with where the error occurs to the developer's of gnome mud T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the comma had me wondering though, i seen it in one other file in there, and it also had the } semicolon on the next line T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: when i try to delete a alias file, i had a alias called test and test2, i deleted test2 and that went fine, but when i tried to delete test2 (they're stored in a file in my home directory, each with its own) it crashed, twice when i tried T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: test1 rather, lol T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anyways, it's probably something to do right around the close function, a buffer error of some kind, referencing memory that is released.. something T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the most difficult part is how many #include file's include functions from other file's, and trying to find which of those has the actual call's and definition's in them - plus i don't know gnome programming, but i doubt it's a problem in gnome itself - sort of like scouring a installation of the source code for a c compiler and trying to find out the root's of which typedef and #define ultimately are, it's a 4 byte number, no it's a 8 byte number, nop nop it's a 4 byte number T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so I'm ready to move onto client-side aliases, hopefully with variable input, i.e. character level, what 2nd weapon/held item needs to be replaced after portalling etc. Can anyone recommend a decent web resource for the learning? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there any way to have a MUSHclient alias parsed for other aliases before it sends? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there a way to update MUSHclient variables based on a trigger? For example if I level, to update a 'level' T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: whoops - a 'level' variable to whatever the new level is? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's probably better to query that information from the gmcp plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I need to do that via a script though, right? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or can aliases/triggers gain access to gmcp? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Since aliases and triggers can call a script function, or even just send straight to the script engine, they can do anything that some text in your script file could do. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, I'm up to aliases and triggers, not quite at scripts yet - soon, though T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: where all gmcp rooms are stored?where is the database? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yes is not an answer omg -_- T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Possible? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: they are stored in the .db files. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Maybe! T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: lol...i know that..but is stored on my pc where i only acces thoose data from server? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: MosiFoca, i told you, they are stored in .db files T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf.db in the main MUSHclient folde. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: look for them, or read the website to find where they are T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thx...can i acces this .db with sql? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Figure that out yourself. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I prefer finding programs that work on opening files. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Notepad opens Excel files..... T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so if i backup my aardwolf.db file and copy to my laptop when i loggin from laptop all my explored area remaine untouched? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. And there is more you will need to figure out. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i dont understand...because this db acces external data T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so i cant edit it...is only for view T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a mush command to prompt the user to type something..like javascript's "Prompt" T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Yes, take a look at utils.inputbox (I belive that's the name). T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: merci! T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: all my sounds are broken.. they are in the sounds directory.. and I'm using the PlaySound function. (MUSH on a MUD) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i meant MUSH on a MAC T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What do you mean "broken?" T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: does anyone else get colour bleed from Note functions that spills into following lines? It seems to be affecting my ability to match with regular expressions T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Unless you're matching on meta coloration codes as well, it shouldn't affect a match... T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it seems like maybe the Mac version of wine doesn't properly handle playing sounds :\ T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: only in mush.. or with anyhting? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: possibly only in mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's rather unfortunate that the last precompiled wine binary is kind of old T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i found mush to be VERY specific ont eh types of wav files it'll play T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: it is. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for mac T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for instance the sound pack files that come with windows for themes wont' play T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wish someone would make a new one T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Yay for FMware Fusion T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: VMware fusion rather T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I mean...1.2 or whatever it is should work FINE T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's just not the latest version of wine T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use 1.1.42 for other technical reasons T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Is there a way to issue a wait command in a trigger so it doesn't rapid fire on me? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depends on your client T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: you can use timers in mush T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look up the help for DoAfterSpecial T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or EnableTrigger cna work too T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: k thanks will look at those T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: How does CMUD trigger on GMCP events? In tt++ i did #event {IAC SB comm.chat GMCP}, what's the CMUD way to do that? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You set the pattern in options to GMCP. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So do i jut put "comm.channel" as the match? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mischan T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: In MUSH, is it just Send("blah blah blah") within a script to execute a command? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: To execute, no T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: To send a command to the MUD, yeah T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Execute in MUSH means able to be re-parsed, so you use Execute("blah blahblah") T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, send a command is what I needed. Thanks. :) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i find execute to be a lot more useful -_- T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If you don't want it to echo, you could use SendNoEcho ("blah blah blah") T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Agreed T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I usually reparse T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Trying to require "re" from LPeg for Lua regex, but I'm being told there's no lpeg.lua file, which is true, and which is something that didn't come with the lpeg download. So... what steps do I need to take to make it work? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not how that works T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: My thoughts exactly. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Okay, when I do 'require "re"' in a lua script, it errors back at me, saying unable to find lpeg.lua. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not sure why, but that's what it does. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: how do I call an alias from a trigger in mush? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Send to execute T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Execute("myalias") T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: send to execute or send to script and call Execute() T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why are you trying to require "re"? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, I'm still trying to work out the regex pattern stuff from yesterday. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: re is just a variable that you define T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?lua=rex.new T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And if I try to do re.commands, it errors back. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'm referring to using it in CMUD, if that makes any difference. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. hell if I know T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's why I'm trying to require it so that I can use the commands. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Attempting to index global rex, a 'nil' value. :P T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: obviously the mushclient help won't be useful for cmud T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Looks like I actually need to compile the lpeg.c as a dll for windows before I can use it, though. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it appears to be compiled into mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: is Fiendish around? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: help tell, help note. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: didn't I visto you? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: because I can't send you a tell now Fiendish after upgrading the client lol T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is not around. Fiendish is concave and convex. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Wait, what? You can't be both. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's happening? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I worked it out T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh ok, how about convex like seaweed! T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Forget convex. I think negative curvature is a better example. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe just negative T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: I am making you into hyperbolic space. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hyperbole space T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hypobole might be better. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fiendish, not sure how helpful this is, but I switched all my sounds the PlaySound... and sometimes they dont work. then later, they'll work again. "It's like magic!" T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: peculiar. Cera, I suggest posting about that on the mushclient forums so that someone in a similar situation can offer suggestions T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okie. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't primarily use a mac, so it's hard for me to suggest what you might do T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since I don't really understand why it doesn't work in the first place T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so far, waiting seems to work. :p T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I'm running mushclient on wine, playsound doesn't always work, at least for short .wav files. It's probably because playsound uses directx or something T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: there are various way sounds play, and various options for them to play if the client is in the foreground or background T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I solved that by playing longer sound files, that somehow works T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: also some sound files simply aren't compatible T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: sound files have to be 16-bit 2-channel 22 kHz PCM files - you can use Audacity to convert other file formats T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a more flexible sound library could be convenient T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I just did ... T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: mt T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: I'd like to edit my cexits by hand, is there a way I could see a list of them all and do that outside the client? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: is there a way using the mapper to get results specific to the area you are in? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mapper area T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: sweet, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: For everything, use mapper help T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: for everything mapper related :) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Looking for a resource for scripting for the aard mushclient. Specifically looking for a spellup script with failure re-cast. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: finger bast T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i also have a very lightwiedht spellup script that just does recasts on expire and fails T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: finger winklewinkle if basts turns out to be too heavy for you T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Gotcha, thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So yours would make good synergy with the built in spellup command? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: is it a small winkle? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I rather like bast's miniwindow spellup plugin T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Actually, since there's people around. i had bast's installed, and set the layer to 4, which caused it to disappear, and now I'm lost on how to get it back. any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't see it on the wiki, but just to be sure, there's no gmcp info or module for inventories or shop actions, correct? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: didn't gmcp info make it to shop trades (or inventory) at all? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nope, other than gold T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Just gold updating, that's it. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's invmon for that T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: There's no need for it, really. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, didn't know about invmon T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there an objectid equivalent for items in a shop? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I guess I meant: is there an invdetails equivalent for shop items? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you do realize its hour dbl, right? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I lol'd T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: No T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: My mistake T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well it is, so STFU. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera grins mischievously. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The answer is no, Rathik. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not everyone is as pompous as Cera is... we'll have to be sure to remember that next time she's asking for help. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera hops around like a little kid. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hell, even I can get help with tech questions. Cera has nothing to worry about. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: think the "STFU" was a bit much? :p T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Think someone might wanna go quiet during double... T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Makes me not want to answer your questions anymore, Cera. :) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I apologize. (*grin*) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the best way to capture where output in cmud i know (*)%s(*) is just to dirty to work T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: so with the new fix, the warning will only be sent at the 10th minute, or every minute after that? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: in regards to the quest gmcp T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, it now works correctly :) T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I am not sure whether it will send 10 warnings, though. It should work like the way it does without gmcp. If you get a message every minute now from the mud, then the same will come through gmcp. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: any mac users around? I'm working on a library that allows for pluggable URL shorteners. Essentially I have heard (but haven't been able to verify) that there are apps that will allow you to add your own URL shortener sites by providing some information, so I guess I'm trying to find out what that information is/what apps do that. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: what's the difference between the gmcp mapper and the atcp mapper? the stock aardmush client used the gmcp mapper right? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: gmcp mapper uses some of atcp mapper's functionality i think T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: actually ignore that T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think gmcp mapper was extended from atcp mappers plugin T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: I was scanning through the atcp mapper and it had a function to open the direction if there was a closed door, is there anything like that available for the gmcp mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the gmcp mapper has that code in it too i think, but it's not implemented T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's also got legacy code in ther for swimming and other things T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: eg There's water ahead of you. You'll have to * to make it through. T3/r3/2011-06-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you wanted to write a script to auto open doors.. you could make it when you type exit and you see (South) you open south T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the legacy atcp mapper code for opening doors just wouldn't have worked here anyway T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if the gmcp room data listed closed doors you might be able to do somehting T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the swimming and door opening stuff was not designed for aardwolf T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the swimming stuff especially was originally done for a different mud T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I removed some of it at some point T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: housekeeping is boring :) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: indeed T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it one of the reasons i like having plugins used by others.. it makes you clean them up T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pride won't let it go out messy T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you were right that the gmcp mapper grew out of the atcp mapper, but that was a long time ago. the atcp mapper by now could be considered very obsolete even if it were made to use the gmcp handler T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's only left in the package for legacy T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you've certianly made some huge improvements.. i'm messing about with the portals command at the moment T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: gotta go to bed *wave* T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Someone please look at this snippet of lua coding and tell me what's wrong with it. Never mind the zs.params bit; that's CMUD coding, and not relevant to the issue I'm having, which is a memory read error, apparently. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's at http://pastebin.com/6M9DmZtt T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (In theory, I think the findme function should work...) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What error is it throwing? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Deriviatve is misspelled T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Good catch on that one. :P T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: why if i get aardwolf.db and aardwolf_bookmarks.db from my home computer on my work computer the rooms i explored home are not show on my work pc? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not the reason for the error, though... but it's throwing me an access violation error. :( T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you close mushclient before copying them over? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: but i copied only thoose file...should i copy and aardwolf.mcl? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: m = string.match(page, '

' .. t.1 .. ':

.-alt="(.-)"') --t.1 is called before t is declared. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tech no it isn't T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Bah, you're right. What the hell was i looking at T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Don't smoke weed then look at code, fyi T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's defining the function. The function doesn't run until after the table has been declared. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: parsing error, corrected: Don't smoke weed. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the violatoin is probably from the table.remove T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your loop is ridiculous T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do eqresult = findme() and don't pass in T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmmm. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Don't pass in what? And where would I put the table.remove? The purpose of the script is to locate the first matching result and skip the rest. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: MosiFoca, is your world named Aardwolf? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Since I can't find a way to get LPeg to work, it's the next best thing I can think of. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: while not eqresult do eqresult = findme() T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yes.the problem was with the world :)..it had other name..i change it and now is fine..thx a lot :) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish gallantly tips her hat. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and make findme not take a parameter T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Do I keep the table.remove in there, or remove it? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't care what you do with it T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli chuckles politely. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you should probably check for the length of t before continuing the loop T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And it still gives me the access violation. Whee. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ah. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: where can i find a aardwolf.db with a lot of rooms explored ? :) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish THWAPS MosiFoca for being a moron. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: explore for yourself T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also you're going to have a problem if the http request ever fails T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: can i make mapper goto roomid to open the doors to? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't just assume that it will work T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can add opening doors as custom exits T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you definitely need at the very least "if page then" around your loop T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or a check for whatever the error result is for http.request T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if this were mushclient, it would tell you where the access violation occured :p T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is cmud's error reporting really that poor? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: More often than not, it is. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It tells me the address where it occurs, to be honest, but doesn't tell me what's causing it. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: address? not line number? pfft T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient shows a stack trace on error. ultra handy. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Error: Access violation at address 006445E4 in module "cMUD.exe". Read of address 0000002D T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hahaha T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's all it says. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeesh T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, quite helpful. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is part of why I don't use cmud T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: At least when I tried to require "re" it told me that it couldn't find the lpeg.lua file. :p T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which sounded like it wasn't really the right thing for it to say, since you said you were actually missing a dll T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, according to the person who created the LPeg library, he said you had to compile lpeg.c to a .dll, but even he wasn't sure how to do it. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google code pisses me off sometimes T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: why not just use visual studio to compile it T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: visual studio express c++ also compiles c code and the destination if a dll T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: is* T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: or you can use the compiler from the command line if you know all the switches. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think the problem is that etzli doesn't know how to do that T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: is documented T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, but all I got from the queen is a breastplate, I didn't get a key. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: what do i do to comment out a line in mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bleh T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daimajin Hane Tech: Really? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bleh T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I type "rt ft2" which is aliased to "mapper goto 26672", it says "Walking to: A Misty Path" "No point doing this while you are speedwalking." "run n4enunue" and I end up bumping my head against the back wall of Vanir public hall. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What version of the aardclient are you using? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: 4.75 T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Not MUSHClient version. What revision of the aardclient package? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "checkversion" ? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: r1026 T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, it sounded like an issue from a much earlier revision, but that doesn't seem the case. I'm not entirely sure then. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I upgraded it only a couple of days ago. Also, this speedwalk thing started only a couple of minutes ago. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Type "reload mapper" and then try your alias again? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would reload the mapper. If that does not address the issue, I would suggest using a backup. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: n4enunue *is* going to run you into a wall in vanir if you start from recall T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yeah, I'm not complaining about the walls (= T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have you just tried moving a room and moving back? Maybe it doesn't know what room you're in for some reason T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It knows where I am T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's not the issue. A "speedwalking" boolean is 'stuck on' so it's not performing correctly. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Reloading didn't help T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cizra: You might need to go to a backup of the Aardwolf.db T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cizra: Do you have a Backup folder in MUSHclient's main folder? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: type gmcp request char T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (I think that's the alias) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then try T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have db_backup folder T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cizra: Do you have anythin in it? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yeah, a couple of backups (= T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What does backups have to do with the last suggestion? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think a backup of the mapper database is going to have anything to do with it thinking you're running T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yay, restoring the backup helped. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: First, you will need to email the bad Aardwolf.db to Fiendish. He might want to look at it and add in the email what is going on and what happened. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: er.. gmcp request char said "bad command blah check help blah" T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "protocols gmcp sendchar" is the command I was looking for byt T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh well, It was a thought on the sending part. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: btw T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: o.O It shouldn't have helped.. at least didn't fix the underlying problem. Oh well T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I made a backup of the bad db. I'll try it again... T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "sendgmcp request char" I believe also works? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, restoring the bad Aardwolf.db brings back the problem T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Don't bother. If the backup works, just continue with that. Though you might consider listing an issue on the aardclient issues list. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cizra Send the bad db to Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I will T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Fiendish for his email. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: protocols gmcp sendchar didn't fix the issue, by the way. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: my computer rebooted by itself last night... when i woke up the fan was making noise... T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Clean it, tap it, buy a new fan. Yay. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: also, icons are no longer regular icons, they are the unknown file type icon on some... T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try a proper restart - esp. if your fan is dynamically controlled T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: those two issues are probably not related... :/ T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: icons were all re-arranged on my desktop too T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: i tried proper restart, all is working T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That usually happens when windows doesn't shut down correctly - it only saves your arrangements when you do a proper shutdown T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Something likely got corrupted and Windows tried to fix it. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: ah, makes sense, overheated or somethin and rebooted T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Prob. blackout or something, but keep an eye on it and back up what you need to T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: how do I remove the sttng exit from vidblain? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just run there a few times and it removes itself T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: thanks, just figured that out :P T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there any way to tell the gmcp mapper not to use portals in a particular pathfind? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't input the portals in the first place... T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pathfind is designed to give you the shortest distance between A and B T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vakieh: There is. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If the room is no_portal or no_recall. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Assuming it's a one time thing - or rarely kind of thing - like a goto out of a noportal room T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/detail?id=113#c11 T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Read the information about it. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sorry, wrong link. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/detail?id=111#c2 T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I went to Issue 113 and not 111. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That will only capture room flags for it though, right? As in I'd need to map out the rooms again for the flag data? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to make out the rooms by typing recall or enter to see if it is a no_recall or no_portal room. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's why I have a routine for putting "recon" output info into my room database :-) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hmmm So with 13000 rooms explored, 2 options, 26000 operations to update the db - manually - I'd prefer a 'mapper goto #### -noportal' myself... T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Needing to update each room is unimportant as you'll be IN the room you're trying to portal out of, thus already having the info before trying to portal. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So you don't need to attempt the action for it to grab the data? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to do the attempting before it will know it is a noportal or norecall room. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Depends on how its implemented. If you use recon as Abelinc suggested, no. However, this isn't publicly available as not all classes get recon and not until a later level. So yes, a fail would need to occur first.. which is the likely reason it hasn't been added yet. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any reason why a -noportal flag would be a worse idea? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I suppose it could be particularly intensive in some cases, otherwise I can't forsee a problem with it. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't...it's a great option for CRs when you don't have your portals available T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I write my speedwalks with a -noportal, an -amulet, a -otherarea-portal and a -portal version, and it chooses which to use based on my level, or I can force it to use a particular one T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: to use the portals part of the mapper do I need to treat it like a cexit and input everything? ie get aylorian portal bag;hold aylorian;enter as the portal name? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yup - the portal command is an alias T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The less volitile information you can give it the better (use item ids instead of "portal" and "bag") T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: nod, thought names would make more sense over tech :) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And if you find youself changing them as you level, look into clientside aliases with variables T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yourself* T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone know if stamps.com has any printer requirements, ie looking at a hp laserjet and don't want it if it'll cause runny stamps cause it doesn't dry fast enough T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: can't find anything specific, but was hoping someone would know T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: laserjet should be fine, inkjets are the runny ones T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Inkjets suck. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: indeed. spend a few hundred bucks on a decent laser jet and you wont regret it. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The cartridge lasts if you fix your printing setting too. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: yeah, use the override settings and you'll get 3x the life out of your cartridges. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: set it to fastprint and you save a ton of ink T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It depends on how well the stamps need to be printed. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: how many cartridges equal a ton? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: well, I'm VI so I can't say if there is a difference in terms of what it looks like. I've been told there isn't, but i used fastprint for papers all semester and didn't use very much ink. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: obviously if you're printing pictures or something, you probably won't want to use that. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko nods. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It varies. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Laserjet is what Staples and so on uses. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Laserjet is not one printer, it's a series of printers. Quality varies by model. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: It's just a different method of printing. usually quicker, but there are crappy laserjets. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In addition, you need to look at the replacement cartridge prices too. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I hate having to tear off the lines of holes on both sides of the paper :( T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol - loved the rolls of paper :-) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: haha. those were fun! T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ascii pr0n ftw :-) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: ( . )( . ) ;) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is a dotmatrix printer. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It was ribbon based too. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: yes, they made a movie about it too :) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: those printers were fun. I remember using a sort of PDA for the blind years ago and you could feed it like $c to center, $r for right align... etc, I had fun with those. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I had fun making Christmas strings from the right and left section on the paper. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: there a way to create a trigger command line in mush? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean make one FROM the command line? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes. see here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/CommandLineAliasesAndTriggers T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thanks for the link T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: how do i go about binding something to alt+numkeys? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: on mush T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see the help on Accelerator and AcceleratorTo T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: great, now he'll have socials bound to all his numkeys :( T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't suppose there's a way to edit triggers/timers while still accessing the main mud screen? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not really T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can use the command line trigger adding alias to remake a simple trigger over and over, though T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh well - break out trusty notepad :-) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I suggest Notepad++ T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use scite and gedit T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trying to sequentially add portals to aliases - need to close the window each time - and I use Crimson Editor T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or emerald or whatever they call it now T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: how do I show a miniwin that is currently not shown? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: depends on the miniwin T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which one? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: moons T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: may need to just wait until it collects all three moons locations T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: be in an outside location also T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Oh no, it does know them, it will plot them in main T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: so, has anyone been able to use the flash client on aardmud.org site lately? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karzon Tech: I tried it once, and it didn't work. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Flash or Java? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Java T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i seem to have a similar experience, across all platforms that i tried (linux & win, various browser), so i was wondering if it's just me doing something wrong T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: flash T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: flash isn't working, java is T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for me on W7/IE8 T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: hmm, okay, because the site totally seems to imply that you should try flash and only in extreme cases go for java :P (and let's face it, java is resource hungry and sucks) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, and flash not being operable is an extreme case to call for java ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: odd.. in mush.. on the ideas board.. if i type note list... it starts listing the notes and then disconnects me T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Same for most people T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: type note list 50, or note list 100, or w/e T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh ok cool.. there is a limiter T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Or you can set paging. "pagesize 50" T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pagesize!??!?! never! T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle grins evilly. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, java client on solaris10/sparc/firefox3.5.9 uses a variable-width font T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for a second there i thought my client had corrupted, but i had disabled all aliases :D T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is dyign for a new GQ so he test out his new speedwalk engine T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: do a CP. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: good idea! T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yeah! T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm going to try and do one as fast as possible T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yay, another non-manual player. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh i'm still manual :) I have very strict morals on botting T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: i thought there were rules against autohunting/botting? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there are .. and i'm not :) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 1% of manual = non-botting. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I thought it was 0.000001% of manual = non-botting. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Odd, started running into issues with the winklewinkle spellup script. Was working fine last night. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: what kinda issues? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Getting a runtime error on it, dealing with learnedskill T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: there's a kind of bug in it where if you have any skills/spells not pracced and you type learned, it will choke. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: The errors popped up when I logged in, before doing anything. Started to load things and puked on me. Was working fine last night, not really sure what all changed. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: hmm. do you by chance have any skills/spells not pracced? that includes any you've forgotten with the forgetskill command as well. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Nope, everything is practiced to max. Seems that the "AffOff" trigger is FUBAR, too. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Humm.. i'm sorry about that T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Not sure what the issue is. I'm gonna try and nuke the whole thing and start over, see if that fixes it. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you can hold out a day or two i have a completely re-written version almost ready T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that will be much more stable T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Ahh, cool. T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and not reply upon learned.. but rather slist command T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Flach, you'r eon my notify list.. so i'll send you a tell when i've got the new version working.. i'm eating my own dogfood (using it myself) right now T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: winkle, still working on VI package? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeppers! T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah. what part of boston are you from? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got quite teh library in beta T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Sydney Australia! :).. but i'm a temporary southie right now T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nice T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how temporary? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 2 years? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in school? T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i married an american :) T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see. so not that temporary T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not any more now that we just had a daughter T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it was meant to jsut be a green card marriage T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ;) now i messed it up! j/k T3/r3/2011-06-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ummm where do u turn on echo for main mush window -_- T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know of a quest timer monitor that plays a sound when the timer expires? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MUSHclient plugin, that is T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: you can do that yourself lol T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: just trigger on it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a pretty simple trigger T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: I have one that just triggers on Quest: You may now quest again. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Kyriantha, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh - I can do that within mush then? excellent T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: yeppers T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish boggles at the concept. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah just add a sound file to the trigger T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course you can T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trigger on the line I knew, play a sound I did not T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is deathblow always cleaves? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone know how to turn off the BAST update checker? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: i've just disabled it in the plugins window T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nice, which plugin file is it exactly? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm going to guess that it's the one called Bastmush update checker T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: cool tks. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sheni flexes his muscles...what a stud!?! T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nice work, new Mush look like old Mush integrated tightly with the new stuff. What was the command to auto arrange to fit the scrren, initaard? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: initaard does not do that anymore T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is 'resetaard' but that is specifically for the main output area T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No worries, I like it. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: anyone else constantly losing link? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav shakes his head. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: not right now but I was a while ago. earlier today. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: No, solid. But very quiet on channels. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: any way to disable ctrl+f4 from closing mush window? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: wanna add ctrl+f4 for macro key but atm for some obscure reason it does same thing as alt+f4... close mush window T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can probably overwrite it with an accelerator T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see the client help on Accelerator and AcceleratorTo T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: will it override it or just add it ontop? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: should i try to do Accelerator ("Ctrl+F4", "") and then bind it to what ever i want to clear any function it previously had? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is more likely an os response T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i dont know jack about scripting or lua so i need a very retard friendly explanation lol T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: That may not work. AFAIK, that keybinding is part of Windows, for apps with tabbed interfaces like MUSH T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: AHhhh T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats right tabbed aplications T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: was wondering why it was only ctrl f# that wasnt in be default T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: There's a name for those kind of programs... I can't remember it right now, though. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Assuming I have an alias set to 'send to Execute', can I place comments in the send box somehow? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably. ask on the forums T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Does anyone use the Bast hunt plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ht and type autohunt for bast_hunt.xml I think. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hold it, it is ha for that one. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I just looked in the aliases. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, that works, but I read the source and saw that it can optionally also run "mapper area" on ht. How do I turn it on? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is something I do not knwo. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: return on checkfortable("levels") I see this message all time, how can I remove it? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Restart statdb plugin, iirc T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is the last Bast script package working on mush 3.75? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can anyone recommend a good picture management tool for linux? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: - T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 4.75, and yes. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define picture management T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sometimes mapper's cexit 2 second wait is too short, are there any plans to set the value dynamically for long cexits? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh good news! I wont' raise it on your site then T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: currently i jsut hack the plugin and reload it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: something like adobe lightroom T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but for linux, and preferrably floss T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know why the new mushclient doesn't seem to want to let me resize the main window fully? I drag it down as in old versions but when it gets anywhere within about an inch of the input bar it bounces straight back to it's original size. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i get soem resizing issues too T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my guess would be the new feature of the growing input bar T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i want it to stop at a certain pixel.. and then it boucnes back to a spot close to that T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's line-based, not pixel-based...it should stop at a text line boundary T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well that makes perfect sense then T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I had that a couple of packages ago, with the bouncing T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't do anything "within an inch of the input bar" T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: show me screenshots T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I found making a new window, and closing the first, fixed it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: making a new window? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Inside MUSH T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what new window T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As in Window->New Window T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is this an "every time you start mush you have to" thing, or just a fluke once? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mine was 'every time, until I did the new window thing' T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a bit odd T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I still need to see screenshots. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Haven't seen it since in the latest version though T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wish you'd thought to report it to me when it happened the first time T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I figured I'd done it copying old settings across :-( T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not sure how I'd screenshot something like that...all that happens is as I'm dragging the window it flips back to it's original position while the mouse pointer stays near the bottom of the screen, so the screenshot would just show mushclient as it looks when it initially starts up, not much use I'd guess T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: show me about where it happens T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Basically, if it's that same as happened to me, you drag the right corner down on the main output window, but once you hit a certain size, it reverts back to it's old size - doesn't move the mouse pointer though T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Precisely what's happening to me, Vakieh. Fiendish, I'll have to do a screen-shot later, I'm connected to xp via vnc at the moment, I'll have a try later on. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think I understand the premise, but I need to get a feel for Lytebane's current layout and exactly where it happens T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It's the default layout that mush comes with at install, on a 1280x1024 screen if that helps. I'll go log off now, see if I can get a screenshot off the actual machine. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, is this maybe the "maximize" issue? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where it wouldn't properly maximize until you max/unmax/max (didn't go to top/bottom of screen iirc) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'm puzzled, it doesn't do it now I've reloaded mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: problem solved! T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, problem identified is probably the important part }:> T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: problem not completely identified T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can't reproduce it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle starts to write a note "The reason i use Mush is because..." T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, haven't identified, can't reproduce, and already solved... T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because "...all of the problems fix themselves" T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, was this you just coming back and seeing lyte's last tech post? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: better than all problems turning into features :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey, don't knock the Zugg school of programming }:> T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Me neither, I'll let you know if I see anything like it again. I'll have a go later by reinstalling mush to a temporary directory, following the exact same procedure, see if it recurs T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably picking nits, but you shouldn't be installing mushclient, just unzipping it (i.e. don't download from gammon, now that Fiendish keeps up with gammon's updates) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've just spotted a tiny little error, I get a run-time error if I right-click on the 'Communication Log' title bar. Are you already aware of that? Not crucial, since right-clicking on the content instead of the title works fine. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That's what I meant...unzipping it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder how I missed that T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Being mainly a slackware linux user, uncompressing archives is the same as installing to me, just that on windows you don't need to compile it after :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is what I get for trying to sneak in new features after I've decide that new features would be a bad idea T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'll have it fixed in a sec. thanks for the report T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: How does the bigmap plugin work? When I try to runto, I get a message in the mapper window about needing to do 'bigmap update', then it shows a nice map of abend, then when I arrive, it gives me a message saying it's built a new bigmap for abend T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that message is only a fallback in case it doesn't automatically make one T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: btw, that's every time I runto the same place, it does that, both the message in mapper and the one about constructing a new bigmap for abend T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: where are you running to? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: umari T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: whoops T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well it won't be able to automatically generate a map for a continent that you never stop on, like Mesolar T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so just go over to mesolar and type what it says T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or let it automatically update T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess the message is kind of outdated now, since it should always auto update if it can T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Will it automatically update after a few different runtos then? Umari's the only place I've tried yet. Very pretty map btw :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will auto update any new continent you stop on T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or the last continent you pass through if you pass through multiple continents T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: basically...just do this and you'll be set... T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: runto mesolar, runto abend, runto alagh, runto uncharted, runto vidblain T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also runto southern T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, that's fine then. Good to know in case anyone asks on tech, so I can help. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the reason you always saw the message is that you were running through mesolar, which hadn't updated, so it asked the mud to send the bigmap for mesolar, but the mud wouldn't process that until after your speedwalk finished so it sent the one for abend T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, that's sorted it, no more messages, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've fixed the chat capture error. it'll be up in the next snapshot T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my Search Engine Optimisation skills accidently paid off.. searching in code.google.com for aardwolf brings up my page first... should really be fiendish's page T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: does anyone know of a mud client for blackberry that is compatible with mccp T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: there is a aard-client for blackberry??????? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are MUD clients for blackberry T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: yep T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: rrrreeeeaaaaaallllllyyyyy....... T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: but none ive found so far work with mccp$ T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for mobile devices, I still recommend using a telnet/ssh client to connect to a "real" client T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and doing it that way gives you mccp, gmcp, etc T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: yea i use ssh T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: how do you do that ??? serious non-techie here... but use a blackberry :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: is mccp a common thing for muds, or just aardwolf T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: one sec ill get you the website for the one im usin T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah on my iphone i remote desktop to my home machine to play.. i get all my scripts and maps and triggers.. it's nice T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's pretty fast on 3G T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: xk72.com and youll see the options for blackberry client T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: there is not one mention of "BlackBerry" on that site... only for some "ssh" thing and IPhone... T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: one sec T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: xk72.com/wap T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: that still does not explain anything about BlackBerry and MUD clients... its just and XML page that "is not connected to a specific source" according to "chrome" T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: any luck? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: nope... that didn't bring up anything but an unattached XML page T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Try it without the 'wap' on the end, that should go to the standard site T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so sore today T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: from inner tube water polo? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or bruins celebrations? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I killed myself a bit at the gym yesterday T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't really care about the Bruins T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not a native Bostonian, and therefore don't understand why they go so apeshit over sports. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: me neither... but my neighbour downstiars with an air horn did apparently.. charming fellow T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Winkle, that's why you play your music loud at 2:30 in the morning. Wake him up and whatnot. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: one day that guy is going to get a tiny amount of glue injected in his front door lock T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Could go a step further, break a key in that lock, then superglue it. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then he'll know it was me T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: How so? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: glue.. he T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: glue.. he'll jsut think the lock jammed.. broken key.. someoen did it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Good point. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh no you di'int put a tetris game into aardMUSH! T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a very basic one T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: speeds up every 5 lines with bonus point multipliers for multi-line clears to incentivise going for 4x T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: $x = ( ($foo,$bar) = (7,7,7) ) .. in this, the () = () is evaluated in a list context, the first 2 7's are assigned to foo and bar, but the value of the expression is 7 7 7 within the parenthesis, until it's evaluated in a scalar context for $x = which returns the number of arguements in the value of the list assignment? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if any of you knows how perl works, i'm still trying to wrap my mind around the basics T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: post some examples here T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i hate perl with a passion T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: perl is teh winning T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the onyl place for perl is in a cgi-bin folder in 1994 T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it is pretty confusing, lol T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or can ge T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so many people use it that some basic knowledge of how to read it and how it works seems to be a good thing to have though T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: it is a good thing to know...and its sometimes good for 1-liners T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: also, it's installed on almost any linux system, and more powerful than bash. You won't get such luck with javascript or lua T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: this is all true.. plus it's horrible! T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it's not that bad. Every language allows you to write horrible write-only code. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd rather python T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that is a little confusing though, the $ = ( (), () ) context, ultimately scalar ( then before the scalar context the list context, and the unassigned member of that context assignment, which is included in the value of the assignment expression ), also a scalar assignment of a list of values $ = ( , , ) , the value's before the final value listed are evaluated in a void context and their value is thrown away as the comma operator does, but the value on the right is assigned to the scalar which is the value of the list , , .. and then if you assign a array to a scalar, the assignment operator see's that you're attempting to do this and assigns the amount of members in the array instead to the scalar -> this is a bit strange because the scalar evaluates to all of its emmbers separated by a comma, like the scalar list assignment before T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What's our Vector Tech: my eyes! T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: as for the question, I don't get what you were asking...? The explanation sounds right, $x will be assigned value 3, $foo and $bar will be 7 T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: sorry, it was for the previous question, didn't read that wall of text yet :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that was why i asked if any of you know how exactly it's operating or not, cause those 3 distinction's are .. strange sort of, but i can see kind of how they are different T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: though, it does beg the question of WHY you'd want to do that in the first place T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Can't figure out this minor but irritating problem. I'm getting tells saying that somebody sent me a tell, as though I'm fighting, which I'm not. Is there some toggle I may have accidentally hit? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, it's impractical especially to a newbie, but it's good to know what a language does do with it's arguement's, then you don't have to wonder T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You turned chat echo off, I'm guessing? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you turned on catchtells T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ahhh. Well, I guess I don't know. What's the command to turn it back on? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type catchtells T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Ok, yeah, I think that's it. Thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: is there an app or something for samsung that i can download for my phone instead of using mxit? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheTrueGhost Tech: sometimes :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: for whatever reason i'm hacing trouble uploading with any real speed. my dl is hanging around 20mbpgs but i cant even get my ul speed to blip. I can upload within my network just fine (so router is good). any thoughts? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: what you mean sometimes T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: having also* T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i just googled samsung p3 + ssh and came up with http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/better-terminal-emulator-pro_nbc.html T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: maybe you can find a better one, it seems there's people building them T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: in other words? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Does it have Android? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: since it comes with a bash shell, you could run something like tinyfugue on it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: so would there be an app T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: ? is their an aardwolf app for non-android samsung? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: is there a quick way to turn off triggers in mush? for example, in zmud, you can do #t- poker to turn the class poker off T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can use enableTrigger, or enableTriggerGroup T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: EnableTriggerGroup("Name", false) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: So Execute () checks whether the input is an alias before sending, right? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. it re-parses the command T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why does one of my aliases fire about 30 times whenever I type it once? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: recursion T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ahhhh thanks I see it now :) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: it was a rt alias that HAD rt in it. I need to change that to runto T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Does the Aardwolf mushclient have a way to store and recall speedwalks besides setting up a ton of macros? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Use a database T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or aliases. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Ok thanks.. will look into those T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: the new aardwolf much client's thing that displays str int ect is bugging me any where i can get the old on T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: The mapper can find then goto rooms too T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: GreenAcid: What is wrong with the Stats Monitor? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it doesnt show level any more T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Certainly it does. Right above gold, right below Damroll T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: that wwould be alignment T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It shows it above the Trains or belove exp. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: below* T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: How about below exp to level? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh thanks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i still dont like it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It's there if you've got it flipped round T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how do i flip it back? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: GreenAcid: You know you can go into it and move it around to where you want it. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Try right-click and flip orientation, puts it back to the default horizontal view T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thank god T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yay T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy way to make gmcp triggers in mush without having to use elaborate plugins T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: plugins are just collections of triggers and other settings. So, no. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that sucks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: I'm getting really bad lag, and I know it's not a problem with my internet, is there some other problem? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you on wireless? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: nope I am fine. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: my junk is running okay T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Yeah, I'm on wireless T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: make sure you or someone else is useing all the bandwith T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Check your wireless. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: My connection is fine though.... T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: there's a difference between signal strength and bandwidth. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: About the bandwith thing, how would I check that? I'm the only one on my network atm T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: PastamanT: The router could be having issues. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: check your router T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Turie: Yeah I will check that, it had an issue a week ago, thought I fixed it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: PastamanT: Do you have your route password protected? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Yes T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: is it hidden passwords dont do anything nowadays T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: PastamanT: You know you have to reset the route once every week to three. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i mean just a quck backtrack T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Turie: oh. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Elaborate, greenacid. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: to crack passwords T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: When I am having issues with connection, I pull the plug on my route and modem to reset them. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: its a whole entire linux system for it T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah turie i do that to try that T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Router and modem take a bit to reboot, will do that T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: most do T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ready to shoot my ISP x.X T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: circle jerk? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Any reason why a hyperlink wouldn't be working in Mushclient/LUA? The text is displaying, it's just not clickable, cutting and pasting from example page on Mush's website: Hyperlink ("lbid 10643", "Chat sessions", "Active chat sessions", "blue", "green", 0) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Doh it's because I'm calling it from a trigger that omit's froom output, that's wierd.... T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: With Bast's spellup plugin, is there an quicker way to populate the "other" list than adding each spell one by one? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bsp sa all --> cast all possible spellups T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: THat adds to the self list though. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bsp slist --> list requested self spells T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I'm asking about a quicker method to add to other. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: quicker is overrated T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bsp olist --> list requested other spells T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: that's list, not add.. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look through bsp help. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a way to rebiuild (change race) without using my free rebuild? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that sucks T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only using classchange, anyway T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you want to pay for a rebuild that you can get free? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how does classchange affect my race? I wanna be a giant instead of a vampire T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dokkar, because rebuilding before remort doesn't cost, regardless of costs T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: cuz I'm about to remort T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: classchange includes a full rebuild T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the classchange rebuild is always untaxed T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so I can change class? T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (*typing help classchange*) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with a classchange, you can change pclass and race T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you only get one free one ever (*caveat on "ever"...if Lasher ever makes a change he deems so fundamental to classes, he can give everyone another one at his discretion) T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: OMG.. I can go back to primary mage without having to wait until tier?!?! T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I swear one of these days I'm gonna put in a sub trigger to put your pretitle back to hot chick :P T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: warrior may be most people favorite, but I love mage. T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: damn, that was a long time ago T3/r3/2011-06-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but it was like one name..."hot chick cera"...nothing else sounds right :P T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you've made me smile. :) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if I go back to mage, I don't wanna go giant. :p T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: ok, so I've been disconnected like 5 time in the last 10 minutes. Is it mushclient acting up or the mud? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: your internet maybe? I'm stable here T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ur isp/mode/router T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Neither. Solid as a rock, here. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: modem* T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: firewall could be tripping too T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: especialy if u have some worthless crap like windows build in firewall lol T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: not the isp/router .. I would know .. got the SOC monitors outside the office :) .. must be mushclient :( T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unlikely T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: When a problem situation arises, ask yourself the question "What am I doing that everyone else isn't?" If the answer is "nothing" then it's stupid to assume that the problem is being caused by magic program elves. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and "not the isp/router .. I would know" <- No, you wouldn't. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: I'm sorry, but you are being a bit insulting now Fiendish .. did I offend you in some way? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm merely attempting to correct your mistaken assertions. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: You're better off understanding more probably sources of connection trouble. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: like i said before look into ur os/router T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like routing complications along the path from you to the mud T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I agree with Fiendish, more likely to be routing problem than the client. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: telnet client thats been bugfixed for decades isnt gona choke on its own just because T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Easy to find out, just run a continous ping to the mud in another window. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: assuming the remote problem hasn't corrected itself already T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: sometimes isp is just having that time of the month T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: or some random server along the route is simply overheating T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: well, I'm looking in to it and I'll get back to you with the results :) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you observe that the ping is working fine, but the client keeps going down, then it might be something other than the network. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But not necessarily the client. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: except that pings aren't really the same class of traffic T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: simply pinging isnt gona give u a reason T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: firewall for instance could just be too ugly to work properly T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: pinging will work fine but it could wall out client instead T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: well, I'm gonna try disabling the events miniwin plugin next gquest .. my errors all occurred during last gquest T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Too ugly is a common tec problem :/ T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bwahaha T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats the general description of windows so it qualifies rather well imo T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe a gq competitor has discovered your ip address and is DoSing you. *snicker* T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if ur running standart plugins and nothing else id look into your router/firewalls first T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bots dont dos T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: they just bot >_> T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: dos would cause slign lag on their end god forbid spending more then 1 tick on gq lol T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: slight* T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: does a dos bot dos or doesn't it, that's the question... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if dos bot dos itself maybe? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway disable any plugins that arent default check ur firewalls ports and then router T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: HiSaZul: if they have a zombie network to DDOS, then they don't get any lag T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but most likely its some os/router issue and has nothing to do with client T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as long as they don't send the dos traffic themselves, they run at full speed T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: u never know what those zombie network IT specialists will do... they might try to cool down server with some mountain dew T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: now I want a drink T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just.. dont spill it at odd places T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: btw. fiendish is it common when importing settings from previous version causes an odd mess with settings untill u save/reboot client? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: just for fun, explain http://i53.tinypic.com/5djj95.jpg T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: timer on some plugin isnt working right?... what about it T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: hmm.. you sure it's not an ISP/router issue? It must be.... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zhug sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what does some plugin with bad timer has to do with disconecting... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zhug Tech: well, lets agree to disagree .. really don't want to start a pie-throwing war here :) have fun all T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh picks up a pie and tosses it around for a bit. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL agrees! T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: if i want to help later on in the game finding bugs and glitches and stuff, how does it work? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Find a bug. Report it on bugs forum. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone else just lose connectivity for 5 mins? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: lol me :P T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Not me T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Nope. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: I got dced for a long time T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yep, me too. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm in Australia - anyone else? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: aussie too T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sweden T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: my bro in michigan is still DC'ed, I'm in San Diego CA T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It was just a lag bubble. Some people got disconnected, other's just saw a paused screen for a bit. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Mine was "frozen" for five minutes. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah got 5 min freeze too T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: How can I get rid of this {invmon}6,590323016,575277809,-1 everytime I use an item? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: tags off T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: type invmon T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: whats the command in the aard mush client to reset isnt it resetaard or something like it T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: ok just got the newbuild r1040 and now my map doesn't work... it's showing the map in the main chat window not the side window... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: greenacid : initaard T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: unknown command :( T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: any ideas on why my ascii map won't update in the window and is drawing on my main chat? it's a fresh install r1040 aardmush with no added plugins T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: map tags maybe T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: initaard is not working can any one elp? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tags map on T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: yeah... turning off tags killed the map T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: map tags or maprun T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: unless you temporarily swap to a dumb telneet client.. never do TAGS OFF T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: initaard is not working T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: the map is considered a tag? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Ok tags on fixes it so they stay on... think the previous issue was fixed with the invmon command not the tags T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: it's RESETAARD T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: grr someone told me diff T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: resetaard will reset MUSHclient-Aard to default settings. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: youll get several answers at times GreenAcid, some issues have multiple solutions, the tags off has worked for me in the past T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: without disabled anything but the lines of code pasted all over :-p T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: different clients, or difference version of clients will change what works slightly T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i have windows 7 a the stupid start bar covers where i enter commands...but cant get it T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Tags are how most plugins get their info - they are a good thing, mostly T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: on top T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try locking the task bar (right click) or double click the bar at the top of MUSH T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok i resided it and it fixed T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: never had these probles with reliable xp T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: hehe yeah 7 made a few things complicated for no reason T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mocrosofts windows 8 looks like***** T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: theyre making an 8? because people loved 7 and vista soooooo much T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in the few leaked realeases T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah they are every thing is in fing bubbles T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 7 wasn't bad T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Everyone knows you should skip a windows release - ME, Vista T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I recommend to skip them all T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: me 2 linux FTW T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: i have xp on any computer that will have it :-p T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And watch as the commercial world leaves you in the dust T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I really like Arch Linux a lot. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: its just game ppl dont recognize it im gonna dual boot T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: never tried arch T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I have Arch and Win7 on my laptop T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Well, let's just usay this... It definitely isn't meant for the beginner Linux user. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Let's just say this, rather T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Lots and lots of configuration. Oddly enough, I love that. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: If you want a user friendly (relative term) version of linux start with the Ubuntu Live CD (lets you boot Linux off the CD with the option to install Linux after you have had a chance to play around with it) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i started tht while ago T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Yeah, Ubuntu is nice. The other distro I like a lot is Debian. I've been thinking about getting a Linode, and I can't decide which distro I'd want for it, Arch or Debian. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im gonna try BSD and Arch T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: but bsd's install seems impossable T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i heard that windows 3.1 has multitasking T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: windows 3.1???? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: ... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh yeah.. it's totally rad T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ill look it up gtg tslk to you lster T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas misses the ability to quit to DOS... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh 3.1 ive been on it its cool T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Seriously, Salvanas person again... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: friend me wanna talk to you later T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Windows 3.1 brought with it the greatest detriment to office productivity ever... Minesweeper. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nebmaatre throws back his head and cackles with insane glee! T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: And while we're on the topic... the new Minesweeper sucks. Being able to 'replay' a game kinda defeats the purpose. And setting highscores isn't as fun anymore. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: resetaard does not do anything to any settings other than moving the main output area T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and any time you see someone suggest "tags off" punch them in the face T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie looks at Ol' Dirty Fiendish ponderingly. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm going through tech -h T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i agree with the face punching.. UNLESS thye are mvoing to a dumb client temporarily as Abe pointed out T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hi im back T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: darn they arnt on sorry T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm going to regret asking this but.. they? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: you and axident T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: we were talking about linux and windows 3.1 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so we were :) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: subjects change from time to time. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyone good with Bast autohunt script? How do I configure it to run mapper area in the end? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It does not do that. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: pretty sure that would be illegal T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you read the plugin source, it hints at a configuration option. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Pretty sure that wouldn't be illegal, unless it also ran there and killed the mob. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It tells you that it will autohunt a mob, but not use the mapper. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Cizra person again... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Petergriffon Tech: so thats how people get to the mobs so fast during imm quests T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't even understand the original question T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bh set automapper true T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Open the bast_hunt script, scroll down. See this line? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it just runs "mapper area " after using the hunttrick T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, hunttrick T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I thought autohunt T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: phelper:add_setting( 'automapper', {type="bool", help="do an automatic 'mapper area (room)' when using hunttrick" T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Great, thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: mmm, what am I doing wrong? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: miniwin.lua:343: attempt to call global 'WindowSetZOrder' (a nil value) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what did you do? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'm getting that on any of the miniwins T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: update to the latest Aardwolf MUSHclient release T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: tried to upgrade to bast's latest version T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: thanks Bast T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: how do I protect my mapper files? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I thought that was supposed to check to see if my plugin existed first T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Mieko, copy the two files aardwolf.db and aardwolf-bookmarks.db (I think) to a different folder. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it uses WindowSetZOrder internally if it doesn't find your plugin T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: after closing client, I guess :) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, I see. still need the mushclient feature. right T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not a mis T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis again? lol T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis mis? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mis mis T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: tis tis T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I backed up my old copy of mush, how to I copy my aliases over? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: import T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: handy, thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone here good with google? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What are you looking for? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 20" or larger box fan with UK spec (i.e 240v) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's there to be good with. Just type in relevant search phrases in the textbox and click search. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: google is very happily showing me one for 30 quid, but it's american spec T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is UK different than, say, the rest of Europe? Could try replacing UK with either European or British, etc T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://uk.alibaba.com/products/20%2522-box-fan.html T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: thats if i don't put UK, put UK get no hits at all :-) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: use google.co.uk and keep the search local T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lol, alibaba, i want 1, not 500 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://uk.alibaba.com/product/222693424-20-BOX-FAN.html T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: great site, th ough T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: http://wiltonc.co.cc/sealey-industrial-high-velocity-floor-fan-16-240v-price-search.html T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: floor fans, close, but no cigar T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: couldn't we just make American go 240V like the rest of the world, problem solved T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that would violate the laws of physics that allow for American Exceptionalism/Manifest Destiny T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 240V is not the norm 220V is. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.kropla.com/electric2.htm T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: 240v != 220v. :p T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 220 i think would work T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 220 i think would work T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: By this website, UK is 230V. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: http://www.ec21.com/offer_detail/Sell_20_Inch_Box_Fan--10045356.html T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: go go china, go to 220v then stick your tongue out at the yanks T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: so... who wants to help me with a minor issue with mush client in Win 7 (I have plans to switch to imac soon as I have the money) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you need help affording an imac? is that what you're asking? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: err no T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. so what's your issue then T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The link I posted is how MUSHclient will work for Mac OS. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: Mush client is not appearing as a 'program/feature' in control pannel where as I swear it used to.. should it or shouldn't it and if not... how can I fix it T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh man mush is going mac? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that is odd.. as you dont' need to install it T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, it uses Wine to run it on Mac Os. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh nevermind T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: in win 7 it runs an install wizard T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or unzip. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it shouldn't run any installation if you are using the Aardwolf MUSHclient, just unzip T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: but on MY os it doesn't show up on installed programs T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you coudl search the registry for mushclient references T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: why do you need it to show up? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: so that I can uninstall it because I am haveing problems with it T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: so basically what I gather is, delete it and it's gone? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: were you using any of the recent Aardwolf MUSHclient releases? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: one before last.. hang on I get the v. 1 sec T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: 4.72 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dude that's ancient :-) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: oh? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: where can I get the newest? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol that's the version Diesalot is still using T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you don't need to uninstall it, but what "problems" are you having with it? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't say ancient, the latest stable version is 4.73 :P T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: auction channel won't showup yet -h works and I can still bid on and receive auction items just a client bug I think T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: isn't it 4.75? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the latest beta version is 4.75 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: At least the last 2 releases from the www have been on 4.75 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh no! i'm a beta tester! gross T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: though 4.72 is 4 months old, i wouldn't call that ancient though T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Plus a whole lot more in between that only went through Fiendish's site T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: channels T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: ok so 4.75 is in beta right??! is 4.74 stable? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "channels" is Auction on? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: yes... I have been talking to Sagen about this issue and he advises posting a note to Imm but I figured I would try other options seeing as Im not exactly in the good books T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: where did you get the release you are using? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what's your auction set set to? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: sourceforge I believe T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: 201 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try auction set 0, auction sethigh 291 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: can you check and see if there is an AardwolfPackageChanges.txt file in your MUSHclient directory? If so, open it and can you find out what the release # is? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: omg ... auction channel is working again T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Good call Myrkul T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: thank you whoever you are :DDD T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anyone in CMud having issues with #URL not working? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: Nope. I haven't noticed any odd behavior. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: so i'm installing windows XP on a new laptop because that's what the client wants. I have iastor.sys on a floppy so the install will see the sata drive. it formats it fine, but it will not copy the drivers over to the drive after it's formatted... windows installer won't let you find the "missing" sys file T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: my only thought it to use a win95 cd to boot to cmd prompt and copy them in manually :\ T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: do you have a 95 disk? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: aye T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i forget but what does iastor.sys do? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: sata drives T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: there's no ide emulation in this thing's bios T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: because it likes it up the serial port if you catch my drift heh. heh. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GreenAcid ) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what driver do you need copyed? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: iastor.sys T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: had to load that and a few other things on a floppy during windows xp install so it could see the drive T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: so what is your problem its still not seeing drive? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it sees the drive enough to format it T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: then when it tries to actually copy the drivers over to the partition, it tries copying it from the xp cd T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it won't search the floppy T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh do you have the floppy drivers working? or can you put the drivers on cd T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: can't just stick them on the cd, no T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: and yes, the floppy can be seen or else it couldn't see the drivers in the first place, right? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: so it starts coping the drivers form the floppy but then switches to the cd? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: ... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: use a -h :P T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im sorry i dont know what is happening let me read your first message T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: boot off of winxp CD, F6 to install 3rd party drivers, S to install, select the controller, enter to continue, IT THEN sees the HDD. Then I format and it copies windows system files over T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: then it goes OMG WHAR IS IASTOR.SYS T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: and it gives you no option to browse to the file T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it's only looking on the CD ... which doesn't have it. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: when here press s and then put floppy in T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: woops hers link http://www.buildeasypc.com/pics/windows_xp/winxp3.jpg T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: boot off of winxp CD, F6 to install 3rd party drivers, S to install, select the controller, enter to continue, IT THEN sees the HDD. Then I format and it copies windows system files over T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: see, already did that. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Using the Aardwolf mapper, is there any way to speedwalk to areas? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i said it was when it's copying over the system files T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: aye the runto command T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: go to the start room of any area and type "mapper thisroom" to find out the ID of the room that you can then use with mapper goto T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: @fiendish T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: was the floppy in when you pressed s?? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: .... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: of course, because i said it could then see the HDD T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: you're not really reading this too well T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i said that works. it's AFTER the drive is formatted that I have issues T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: so when it tries to copy over all of the system files. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: you know like when you format C: /s T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: and it copies over system files T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but it's okay because now it's climing that the usbhub.sys is somehow corrupt T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: so whatever :\ T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: oohhhh im sorry i have no idea what to do a specialsed forum would be best T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: yeah there aren't any T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: not even a general windows forum they could help T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: cnet's pretty good ask here http://forums.cnet.com/windows-xp-forum/ T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and if all else fails get a linux distro and use wine XD T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mushclient works remarkably well in wine T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: need an appleish brain, have an airport extreme, nfc what the wifi password was but afaik its been reset to factory settings where the password should be "public" but i'm not able to get in to configure it. Using a win xp machine to connect to it through some apple software, not sure if that might be the problem..? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i have no i dea to answer your question but i ask why dont you install a linux distro over osx T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: that's a bit overkill to just go in to rename and configure my wifi.... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i know but its a simpler and easyire alternitive for the future T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: how so? I'd have to find me a copy of OS x T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what os are you runnin on the thing you trying to change T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: win xp T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no im saying screw osx and use linux but i hate mac and thats what i did so i have no fing idea T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sorry T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: this line under every room name aht it means?: {coords}0,58,37 T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the spot that the area appears at on the bigmap T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it means your script that's supposed to be gagging it is broken T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I put it off? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: TAGS OFF T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: not good T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: its a specific tag T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: TAGS specific tag OFF, then. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dokkar pointedly reminds the noobs that there are helpfiles to read. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: who knows where I can get an autohunt plugin for mush? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my website T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okie T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: finger winklewinkle search and destroy plugin T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I see the search destroy one, but I only see that it is the uhnt trick.. will it also take me to a mob? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hunt mob, then it goes, rehunts, goes, rehunts, goes again, until I'm in the same room as the mob? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: usage is listed in the description T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, and I'm not seeing that it's waht I want, so I'm asking if I missed anything T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hi, where can i fin a good solid begginers tutorial on mcuh client scriptin T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hi, where can I find a good solid begginers tutorial on mush client scripting T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mushclient.com? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i cant find any tutorials just some refrences T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to Forums->Mushclient, there is a link called Intro to scripting... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh thanks T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: doesnt it save it as indevidia T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you really don't need to know how the scripts are saved, all you really want to know is that you can create and edit them individually. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone care to share their opinion of Satellite Internet service, specifically HughesNet. Have been using dial up currently, thinking about switching to Satellite. No other options available in my area. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: great for webpages, pretty crappy for gaming. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ahh, even crappy for a MuD? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep, it's like being on dialup T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: = to, or worst? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: actually the lag is a lot worse, look at your bounce distances, anything to orbit has at least a 1/2 second round trip. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: The downside to sat is that it sends data in super large chuncks.... this allows you to download large files quickly but when it comes to many small moving packets like a mud or gaming it is worse than dialup usually... dialup ping = 500 sat = 1000 (estimations) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: like 2 days ago, my dial up went to shit. Connectivity issues, connecting at way lower then normal speeds. PC is only a couple weeks old. ISP claims the problem is not on there end. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ahh nod, tks. Save me the hassle, I had a feeling.. had heard rumours. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: I would suggest looking at cellular before hughes. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: techs are trained like claims agents. Deny first, and then ease back if the customer bites back. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: No cell tower in my area either. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: ack sounds like PA or WV T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ahh nod, seems like it is their end. Was working great, left for few days, came back and just crap over and over. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Phone company doesn't offer DSL I assume? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: most times, it's not really that they're out to cause you grief. It's usually just one hand not talking to the other and techs just end up stealing each other's work to make their customer happy. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Interesting. Im use to dealing with some issues occasionally from time to time. But going on 2-3 days solid of crap connection... not typical. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: possible a rodent started chewing on a phone cable outside? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: are all of your cables new sometimes they need to be replaced T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Checking them, phone company claims there is no line noise on there end. And I checked the test jack sounds just like the house jack. Might have the phone company come out on monday to check in person. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: right, someone nearby probably ordered new service and to make that work the tech probably spliced into your line, causing something to break on your end. We had that happen here in the midtown suburbs, and customers up and down the street kept calling in turns and getting their issues fixed. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Guess if the phone company confirms no line noise, and PC is brand new, its got to be ISP sided issue. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: One other issue I have seen a long time ago is that if the ISP has say 100 56k connections and all 100 are being used when you dialup you might get connected to a 33.6k or 28.8k modem instead as they are cheaper and usually serve as a backup for when all their 56k modems are being used.. but this was back when dialup was the only way to connect to the internet... with the prices of 56k modems now I can't see this being your issue... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Try connecting during complete off-peak hours like 3am on a WED and see if you get full connection speed... ISP could just be overloaded T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nod, wish I had a 2nd isp to connect to just to test.. guess you can connect to AoL through dialing without a connect. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: It did seem to be better in the middle of the night last night. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ISP allowed to just be overloaded and give me crap servive x.X? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they can't upgrade if they have no money, after all T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nod T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I remember having to autodial AOL back when everyone used that. it was always overloaded. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and if they ARE upgrading, they might be working out tech issues on their end, waiting for key components to arrive, or perhaps are simply overwhelmed by increased demand (they aren't going to turn potential money away) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: When I switched few years ago, from AoL to my current ISP it got way better instantly... but now its crap again. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Yeah just monitor the times your logging in and what speeds your getting during those times... you should begin to see a pattern if your ISP is overloaded... from about 4pm - 9pm would be peak hours... so would 7am - 10am and 11am - 1pm (usually) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Cool thanks guys. Appreciate it. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's also seasonal concerns. Now that school's out, there's going to be more kids surfing longer. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Makes sense T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Small isp's can be cost effective but come with some drawbacks T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They really ought to make school a year-round thing. Too many little brats running around all summer long. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Best to keep them in the monkey house where they belong. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: when the phone company expanded the then top-line broadband technology, service in our area took a nosedive just because so many people switched over all at once. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we'd lose connection like 6 times an evening and couldn't do crap for half the year. T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Yeah I had the same problem when our town first got high-speed DSL Dok T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: but now I live in the city and have a 15mbps connection for $40/month T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: l T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: DOH!! T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Heh guess I need to just sell my house and move the city so I can plug into the wall :p T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: does madcatz play anymore.. i can't finger him T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or is he an imm now? T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: He's been an Imm for a couple years now... T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You can find out yourself by typing 'wizlist' ;) T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool... i extended his container sort script T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and i want to share with him T3/r3/2011-06-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll write him a note T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Using Windows 7, My net connection status shows data being downloaded. Anyway to find out what its downloading. Like what program is running/using my bandwidth? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there are some network traffic 3rd part programs T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: don't know any by name T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: yeah, check out netlimiter i think T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: cool tks T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: I know you can see your network usage in the task manager but I am not sure if windows has any built in apps to tell you what progs using how much T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: just look for a packet sniffer. wireshark is good I think, it's graphical so I've never messed with it. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: it's going to be a pretty crazy setup to get it working though T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: wireshark.. yeah i've heard of that one T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nod, looked at the task manager, couldnt tell what was using it. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: yeah didn't think so T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: wireshark will give you packet info by port, not process T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I heard it's pretty sweet. It does a lot more on *nix because libpcap can do more there, but it's not bad on windows. you can see graphs and all sorts of stuff. the windows firewall is also fairly decent on seven, might consider killing things there. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if the process using traffic is "WinkleWinkle_Pr0n_Downloader" leave it be. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: you could then at the same time run netstat to find the ports in use by processes T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lmao T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: netstat can be a pain if you're running torrents, skype, messengers, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: lots of data to sift through. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: yup. it's not a great solution, but it's free and requires minimal setup :P T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Almost miss my old pc, didnt do so much stuff on its own >< T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone use Bast_hunt? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I do T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Is it very user friendly, do you recomend it? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i have a question, i installed basts_hunt plugin thing but when i do it gives no clue how you actually use it or what it does T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: on the wiki for the miniwin tabwin there looks like there may be some sort of eq monitor T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but i don't see that in the zip file or the list of plugins T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does it have some strange name? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i'm trying to figure out how to bring particular miniwindows to the front T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: clicking on the m and saying bring to front doesn't seem to do anything T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but it seems randomly the miniwindow that is by far the most important is at the back of everything T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: so i have to leave a bunch of emptey space for it T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: How can I do a backup of all my setting for mushclient when there is a new build? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: check out the page on updating on the aardwolf website :) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: K thanks T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: Can't seem to find the page on updating... LOL T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Upgrading T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axident Tech: TYVM T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, it's not on the aardwolf site anymore? my bad T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Well, that page really just links to the aardwolf website T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, see, i knew it was there :P T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fantomex Tech: Once the painkillers+boooze won't work, what's the next step? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fantomex Tech: Against pain, not "rock'nrolling' T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fantomex Tech: FINE then...tomorrow I'll be asking questions how to get rid of wicked backpain AND hangover at the same time..... T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hi T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: umm i boot mush client on windows 7 now and it instantly stop's wokring T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: so im playing in telenet right now T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hello can any one hrlp me?? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i'll save ya scoob! T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: try re-downloading the mushclient, the executable might have been corrupted T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: with my probtech kk T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm going to need some more information. What stops working, windows or mushclient? Did you put it int he right folder as directed on some random website? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mush stops T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: did you download any plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no just defaultech jutechtech just deafult aardwolf one T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Does it give any error message? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: nup T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i have no idea whats wrong T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: is it on a flash drive? I had problems trying to run it from a flash drive T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pane Tech: see if it puts any message in event viewer T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Error Message? What directory did you install it in? I've heard of issue with permissions. If you run it as a super-user does it work? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: not on fd its on my desktop ill check event viewr T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: don't run executables from you desktop, that's where the most shit gets corrupted T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: true ill run some where else after reextracting T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and nothing in event viewer T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: reectaracet to prgram files works fine T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok i fixed the prob thanks T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is it possible in mush client to create a stand alone gmcp trigger T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sure it is. Well something that is like a trigger anyways, but what are you trying to do? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: well i was wanting to create a trigger off my hunger gmcp value and have really no idea how to script in mush T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Honestly what you want is possible....but I've found just adding drink from a fountain to my q complete alias and I never get hungry T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Check out this page: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in mushclient what stores all of you mapper data T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: the aardwolf.db file T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks need to get that from my old one T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is stored in Aardwolf.db. It is put there by the GMCP Mapper and GMCP Handler. I think. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: what does the handler do with it? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: just a note about the windows in the mushclient, when someone or something is invisible or hidden, the main window says someone but the chat box gives the names regardless :-p T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: right T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: well doesnt that defeat the purpose of hidden and invis? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah there was a note about that way back when. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: ah okies just wonderin hehe T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: thought maybe i had a broken client or something T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: don't look a gift horse in the mouth :P T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody here read the x86_64 abi, or know how to interpret it for a beginner? http://www.x86-64.org/documentation.html i only need to understand some basic's to translate 32 bit assembly (from beginner's guide's) into 64 bit assembly (equivalents) and the gcc -S output from something like a C program contains DWARF debug tag's among other things, like optimization's, that are not immediately obvious or really mentioned in the beginner's guides T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you are wayyyyy outta my elague on this topic T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they use some term's in the ABI that are pretty complex to describe some thing's that maybe aren't quite that complex themselves, or can be worded differently as they word them in the tutorial T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: league T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: erm.. ABI of what? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Interface between what and what? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: forgive my saying this, it seems like mucking around with assembler code and "only needing to know some basics" is just asking for trouble. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth wildly nods his head at Tyebald... he seems to be in total awe. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think it'll just take changing the ELF header and renaming registers from eax and friends to rax and friends. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the at&t assembly language for assembler's like gas, how the instruction's for the assembler are to be used / register's and thing's like that, by higher level programming languages, and by an assembly programmer themself T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so, in that analogy, are you the match? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: not really, they teach/taught 32 bit assembly language at princeton computer science classes as introduction's to computer programming courses T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but 32 bit's kind of obsolete now T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: since if i write most program's now to use myself, they'll be translated into 64 bit machine code T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i just want to know a few things, like if (%rbp) can be used the same way (%ebp) was used in 32 bit processors to access stack members, cause the abi says that %esp always points to the end of the allocated stack frame, -128(%rsp) is some kind of 'red zone', but %rsp is preferred to use in base pointer addressing, while a called function can treat %rbp as another general purpose register T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: cause the guide's to x86 assembly use that register and addressing mode alot T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and, 0(%rbp) always contains the return address of the calling function, which is strange to a newbie like me, maybe, because if it can be used as a general purpose register, how could it? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i must have missed some detail's, but they use alot of details i never heard of T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: The AMD64 architecture does not allow an instruction to encode arbitrary 64-bit constants as immediate operand. Most instruction's accept 32-bit immediates that are sign extended to 64-bit ones. -> (And it seems to be 0(%rsp) is the return addresses, which make's some sense, i still have to refresh my memory) -> in some example's i seen they use a mov $1, %rbp instruction, for instance, does this mean the $1 is interpreted as a 32 bit scalar, the mov instruction doesn't ave a suffix.. but is implicitly a movq (for 16x4 intel word, which is different from a 64 bit word size) but sign extended into a 64 bit scalar when placed in the register? (from another part of the text) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i could go and try some irc chat or something, but i'd probably offend them with my stupideity T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: dont feel stupid i have no idea what your talking about T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I heard someone mention a plugin that allowed getting items from bag by level, can anyone tell me where I can get it please? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: your first time there? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: This might be it? http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr&hl=en T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: thank you T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yes, it was madcatz, forgot the name :) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr&hl=en T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Ok, complete moron here, I have the plugin, I downloaded it to notepad++, what do I call it and how do I install it? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Call it whatever you want, although ending it in xml might help, then press ctrl shift p and add plugin T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Save As a *.xml file T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i wrote an extension for that which is LGive which lets you give items between a range to someone else T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Save as Type (eXtensible Markup Language file) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: In the scripts folder, or somewhere else? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: In the plugins folder is fine. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Usually mushclient/worlds/plugins T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: but that's just default, don't matter where you save it really T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I got the plugin working and it sorts my bag of aardwolf wonderfully! I'm in love T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Cool, this is awesome! I'll have to thank Madcatz T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmmm... will [\d] capture negative numbers in regexp? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: based on http://www.regextester.com/ and http://regexpal.com/ nope....that's interesting T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I mean really it has no way of knowing whether it's part of the number or not. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's a good point. I figured it didn't. [-\d] it is... T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd go with (-|+)?\d personally T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I don't believe there's ever a plus in numbers that I'd be triggering for here in Aardwolf T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Intersting also doesn't match 5.5 could also do ^-?\d*(\.\d+)?$ T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: depending on whether you want decimals. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Luckily I'm just triggering on {invmon} so I'd only ever have digits, -, or comma T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool.. whatcha doing with invmon?? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: does anybody know how this bar that repeats itself as you scroll works? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2535989/what-are-the-calling-conventions-for-unix-linux-system-calls-on-x86-64 -> when you scroll down the page it double's and covers up the information T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: which part of the html causes that? the javascript? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: tested a 2nd ISP, neither ISP works well... guess the problem isnt on their end >< T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was it "Could not decompress text from mud:" on MUSHclient? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I had that error earlier, while trying to connect T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let fiendish know :-) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Anyone know of a true offline gps apk for android? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: i haven't seen one, please share if you find one T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: will do T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: apparently on the 15th Yesterday, Google announced that they would make the offline routing ability available to every Android user T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: offline routing has been available for some time, it's offline rerouting that's new. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i installed basts miniwin stats plugin and it has a tab for kills but it doesn't seem to be tracking things right on it T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: like it has 0 xp for all of my last 5 kills which is not true T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: only thing it seems to be tracking is gold T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there something i need to do to set that up? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try making sure StatDB and StatMonitor are both install T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: they are T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if anyone gets the "Could not decompress text from mud" error, I need to know what comes after that in the error message T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: at least they are enabled in my plugin list, if there are any commands i need to type after i ihaven't done that T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't think there are any commands you have to type after enabling T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: it is tracking my xp/kil and stuff correctly T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: just on the last 5 list is where things are broken T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: actually i'm not so sure it is tracking right because the first line says total overall of 392683 ...i just installed this last night i haven't killed 390k mobs since then T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's getting that from your character stats... T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way bast's statdb works is that you can set "milestones" T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as you set the milestones, you can get reports about what is between any two given milestones (i.e. this level, the past 5 levels, etc) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doing a whois on you shows 392683 mobs killed T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah i tried to fool with the mileston command didn't really get the point (I put in a milestone 1) and not sure what its supposed to do T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point is just datapoints, really...if you start grouping with someone, you can milestone that, etc T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc it auto-milestones things like levels T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does anyone know why the main output of mush will occasionally flash black before refreshing? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i get that.. it goes black until i move the mouse scroll wheel T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what plugins do you have loaded? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: base plugins plus basts T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try removing plugins one at a time until it doesn't happen T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've owndered if mine is becasue i play via RDP T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess that's possible T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: It's a long standing issue, even back to the original aardmush pre-miniwin. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've never had this issue T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i never saw it before this new mush T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Yeah, I've gone a month without it happening, then it'll happen once or twice. Never figured out a rhyme or reason. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well if you can capture a screenshot of it, please send it my way T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: is there a way to increase the scrollback buffer in cmud? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the length that is. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: nm... T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: that was super easy to find. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: On another note, what's the downside to increase the buffers size? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Memory usage T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you have a ton of memory I can't imagine much T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Possibly speed, depending on what you're doing with that buffer T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: another quick question : is there a way to make the Date appear in the log (as well as the time) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the log T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: prefs -> session -> logging -> log timestamps T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you mean the file log, not the comm log T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: aye i have the timestamp appearing T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: but not the date. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: set your timestamp format in prefs -> session -> scrollback T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh, sweet ;) thanks guys! T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: running... reminds me of the other day T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or click on the "help" button to have it show you all the format tokens ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Sadly, i know all the formatting for time, i just never looked in the scrollback tab. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of a program to compound several SSH windows into a single entity? Ie, close, lower, maximize, etc for windows? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use tmux or screen to composite multiple ssh sessions into zones of a single window...then it'll be a single close/lower/etc T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ROFL T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko nods in partial agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: picky picky T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help anchored matching :P T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I thought it was achored, it is now :P T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is no help with that keyword T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Ol' Dirty Fiendish on her head. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i just had mush crash saying not enough memory? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: hah neat. if you put an @sign at the end of a channel message w/out anything after it the ' at the end of the messages disappears. T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we know T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: well... thanks mr buzz kill T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing semoene says on channels has closing quote T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: :p T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: several channels have closing quotes T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ftalk/ctalk/group T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, and semoene does that on all of them :P T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ohh hah T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: what causes that? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @ almost always eats the next character T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because of channel code T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err color coed T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUD sees a @, looks at next char as being a color code...if it doesn't match a real color code character, the MUD uses it as a noop T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: neat, thanks for the info ;) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-) T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: so i had a complete client crash a fewm inutes ago T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: basically my stats miniwin disappeared T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i clicked on stats in the miniwin tabbar T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and the program died T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and i lost all the stuff i had done in it sincer yesterdat T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: anyone know why that might happen? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well you mentioned an out of memory error earlier T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah i didn't have time to see exact message T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: because i was in combat when it crashed so was rushing T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: would that be a memorly leak in a plugin possibly? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: or in the mush client itself? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could be either, but I'd lean toward plugin unless you keep mush open for weeks on end T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i restarted my comp last night so probably plugin hrm T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since others definitely do keep much open for pretty long times T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush* T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: any way to tell which one would be a culprit so i can put something on basts site? T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's just happened that once, I'd just wait to see if it happens again...then if it keeps happening, you can use knowledge of how often it happens to basically do the "disable a couple at a time" thing to narrow down which one...dunno if there's any mush commands to give breakdown of plugin usage stats T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there might be a way to find out T3/r3/2011-06-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I believe bast added memory usage monitor to his new stuff. ask him about it T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: fyi, the mapper backup doesn't handle spaces in paths (Windows) again T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what. T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just downloaded/installed r1051 T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ugh T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'll check it out. *sigh* T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no biggie, I can post a bug if you want to deal with it later :p T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: please post anyway T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sure thing T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in case I can't fix it tonight T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: btw fiendish that blackout thing always happens *right* as a mob dies T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I get it to randomy, rarely, never caused anything bad to happen, just miss a mili second of gameplay T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Vale, sounds like a plugin. can you disable plugins one at a time to see which one is causing it? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: its not happening right at this exact moment T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: ever since mush crashed been running clean T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks. T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: great T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: if there was a memory leak could that cause it? cause the crash was me runing out of memory T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have no idea T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it's possible T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've never run into that situation myself T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fyi, I just ran a backup with spaces in the path and it works fine T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you using compressed or uncompressed backups? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: uncompressed I believe (I haven't changed any of the backup settings) T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which version of windows? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm testing now with windows 7 T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also, do you get an error message or does it just dump files in the wrong place? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just installed it, it kicked off a backup and I have seperate folders created for "Documents" "and" "Settings", etc T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nuts T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let me try putting mine in there T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what version of windows are you using? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: XP SP3 T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok. let me fire that up. one sec T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: okay, posted the bug with all the details (I accidentally posted another before I finished typing the subject, so delete that one) T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Vale, the "blackout" you are experiencing, is that on the main mud output window? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just tested in windows xp and spaces seem to work T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have mushclient on my desktop, which is C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\MUSHclient\MUSHclient\db_backups T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mine is on C:\Documents and Settings\me\My Documents\_My Files\MUSHclient T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let me try that T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why does map_goto have an error on the GMCP mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you might try reporting the error T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't be like my dad T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: wait, I just did a manual backup and it worked T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Gonf, the problem is that underscore T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh never mind T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah it should be all fine T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe that other folder is from an old version? T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nah, I extracted the zip from the new snapshot and backuped the old into Mushclient_old T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's also possible that I screwed up the backup rotation for automatic backups T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its only the automatic that has failed (twice) so far T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll look into it tomorrow T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: i'll wait for the next auto and let you know if its still happening T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I gotta go now T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'll be back tomorrow T3/r3/2011-06-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: okay thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stopdot Godot Tech: Is there an inbuilt notepad app for the iPhone? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stopdot Godot Tech: If not, which one is recommended? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: There's one built in. Called 'Notes' I think. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Its suitability for your purposes... well... up to you. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stopdot Godot Tech: Ahh k found it T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i bought a second hand laptop and i upgraded it to windows 7, now i have no idea what the graphics card was and i need to find the driver for it, any help here? :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look up the laptop model online T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siko nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I get things from corpses but not typing all time get all corpse, get all 2.corpse, a command automatized T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ever hear of 'autoloot'? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is anyone savvy with cmud dbs T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: only mush dbs :( T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any sql-savvy folks out there? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: so I was curious how hard this would be to do. I use mapper area a lot. how hard would it be to capture the number from the first result and store it in a variable? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds suspiciously like a mush question to me T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Easy to make a trigger, then send to 'variable' T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: uh. yeah. but the trigger is going to match all rooms returned. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can someone help with a cmud query T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Multi line T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Sorr is is VERY hard to capture the output from any of the mapper commands T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: does anyone here know how the aardwolf bd file store the rooms and allows it to be searchable?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: sqllite. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: db* T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as they are not outputted in the mud world per se, but rather outputted as notes.. which triggers can't react to T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: so I have to hack my code directly into the mapper plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Green acid... get the firefox plugin sqlite manager T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hmmm - Spartacus' runto plugin does it quite cleanly ?:-|? Though I haven't made a trigger for it to be honest T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah i know its sqlite im saying how does the mapper know what the rooms are named i have the sqlit 2009 pro and cant find any room name in the tables just numbers T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sorr - i've got a plugin that works quite well for querying the database in antoher way and outputs the results as part of the mud results T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: there's probably a column with the name. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i cant seem to find one T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im install ing sqlite manager T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Green acid.. you're looking int he wrong table.. all room names are known T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: table "rooms" T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: meh. I don't need another plugin to add to the mix, I just wanted to sit down and put this idea in. It'd make finding things much easier. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh ill see if i can find it T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: once upon a time, we didn't have mappers T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: once upon a time, we didn't have computers. But now we do, we use them. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we just had an A4 refill pad, some pencils and a ruler T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd actually liek it if Fiendish's plugin broadcast the results so they could be consumed by other processes, rather than having to write out own search equivalents T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: yeah. I wouldn't even mind parsing something else out. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so suggest a mechanism for it T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok found the rooms table but what do the colums uid and roomid mean they seem to be ordered by date added T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh hey Fiendish.. ok.. i will :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: uid is probably uniqueid T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Green acid.. not to sound unhelpful, but those tables really self explanatory.. if you can't work them out you might not want to be messing around in there T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: uid is the num provided by gmcp T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: true but im trying to do somethong with it i learn y trianl and error i have backups T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: good you have backups, I suspect you may get typos in your code :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how does the mapper take the uid and know where it is in aard?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and knowing that SQL has an "order by" directive would help ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: gmcp T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically it doesn't know where it is in aard, other than it also having the areakeyword T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it builds where it is in aard using exits T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: oh isee how it works now...kinda T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: type "mapper thisroom" T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh so the id is the uid in the tables?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bingo T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: add some captures, a bit of sql, and hey presto, a gq/q/cp bot T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: is the uid diff on each db because im using my friends db because he has a MUCH larger on T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that already exists, tiger T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't say :-) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: UID is absolute T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: uid is always the same T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a MUD-assigned number for every room T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: perfect for what im doing you have been SOO much help thanks T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wait its not the same uid on friends db for 510 is blood planes of battle but for me its somewhere in kasas T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let's talk about something more important T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: can any of you yahoos reproduce this? https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/detail?id=123 T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's for dinner? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or this? https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/detail?id=118 T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd find it unlikely, my good man T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wait its not the same uid on friends db for 510 is blood planes of battle but for me its somewhere in kasas T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so you said T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Toto? Something tells me we're not in Kansas anymore T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Kasas T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you are probably looking at the rowid not the uid T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hmm let me check have to quit aard to access my db brb T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: technically not true T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im dumping them into sql so i can read easy takes a while T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at GreenAcid. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that seems like it would make things more difficult to read T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: really im working on opening now havent messed with sql before T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wow you are right ill just stick with the qui i have T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok im in room 558 but its not im my db T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: poor guy T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ??? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Green acid, i know you want to prove this, but this Uid argument isn't winnable T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: go to duck bat's websit.. all the rooms are indexed off this uid T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what argument i dont want to and ill goto duck bats site T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: room 558 is following the yellow brick road in landofoz for everyone T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: lies. it's somewhere else for me! cause I'm special enough for uids to be different. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can prove it by typing mapper goto 558 T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only time you'll get two databases having a different room name for a given UID is when an area is replaced T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which happens rather frequently around here :] T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why the mapper purge command exists, so you can purge the old info to create the new records T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh thats why thanks T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but Oz wasn't replaced recently, so everyone has that room correctly T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and duckbat already did exactly what i wanted to do T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: in a better way T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: duckbat doesn't use the aardmapper btw T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: he'd use the same gmcp info T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wth does he use then T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: erugh... a royal guard in @YTr@Yan@Ys@Ydi@Yme@Yns@Yio@Yna@Yl @WHallway T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: colours in room names.. *hate aura* T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why does that matter? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it only matters becasue it breaks my plugin :D obviously i need to be filtering differently T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rawcolors T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and considering it's the same color, why did they have to pepper the name with so many @Y? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: winklewinkle, aardwolf_colors.lua has a function to strip color codes T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you want T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool.. i'll look into it :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/AardwolfColors T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how do i find all the mapper commands?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mapper help T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: its switch right its plugin thx T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: was that english? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: -n 5 T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, that wasn't... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: for some reason on the gnu assembler .long data type's aren't the same type as long integer's in gcc's c, on x86_64 machine's - why is that? the .int directive on redhat site says is the same as .long, but is referred to in other places as a 2 byte number T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: .long Should be a 4 byte word. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it is confusing sort of, if you're trying to work with static lists of 64 bit data within your program, apparently all constant's in a assembly program are stored as 32 bit number's, even something like movq 0xffffffffffffffff, %rcx, would be stored as two .long data entries internally T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Meh? No T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: On x86_64, long is 64-bit in gcc T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I'm not sure what the nomenclature is for an 8-byte word. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Ah. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can also try long long T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can also try looking up an instruction similar to movq that deals with 8-byte things. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, i checked that with sizeof, but in gas, if you entre in something like data_items: .long 32, 44, 54 , then an instruction like movq data_items(,%index_register=0, 8 {size of a machine word}),%eax you will get the number 54 + anything in the following byte loaded into the destination register T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so even though the long data type is 64 bit's in C, it's 32 bit's in gas (gcc and as) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so to use those listed numbers, i have to use the movl instruction instead T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they mention using 32 bit instruction's wherever possible on the website, it just seems strange that they don't use the 64 bit equivalents more often T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: since 2-5 byte's really isn't much of a deal these days, they mention the instruction's are shorter for 32 bit, but i don't understand why it's not all used T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until very recently, the world was 32-bit (was quite fun compiling stuff for my alphastation 15 years ago with people writing code to not be 64 bit clean) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alpha processor has an inbuilt function to align things, but it has a huge time penalty T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Why not write some C and assemble it and look how it's done there? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, they do mention a slow conversion into full 64 bit thing's, maybe that's part of it - i think gas maybe doesn't have the trouble with comprehension that an assembly language programmer might T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the processing stage maybe the main difficulty, usually handled by a compiler or something, but the processed machine instruction's are nice and simple to the machine T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i do, i have a pdf here called asm64-handout.dvi T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it has an example in it where two .long's are used to represent one 64 bit number T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That's a hack T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, i'll have to investigate it later on if i end up using assembly language regularly T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: till then i'll just not question it too much , lol T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can anyone help with a cmud query T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sure T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it outputs no results T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what's the query? :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so there's a db T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: has fields called l T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the query is #show %query(&l>1) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the field is set as number type T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i've never really used the database module... i assume it's open? :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and can access the db with dbget and 0eq for example, which is the record T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye :p T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, reading the documentation, that looks fine... :/ T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: %db also works, but not the expressions :( T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, %db isn't for the actual database module, it's for database variables T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well if I put the db record there it also works :p T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can do something gay like list them all, put in a var, then loop it with an if and an expression T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: how is that homosexual? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the question on my mind too T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a deviation from the norm T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oh, you're a homophobe T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i woudl think that bad hacking code is more the norm T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so try again T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Mieko go discuss it on debate channel T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: next time perhaps use an appropriate adjective T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i have the same problem... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm sorry that you didn't like my adjective, I will whip myself later on, now either get on topic or I'm not interested in this debate T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: made a quick test database, one field l, three records (1, 7, -3) and i can't get %query to do anything... but %dbget does work... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod mine is test db too T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I read somewhere query needs to use a string T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so maybe that's the issue T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's not what they have in the example in the documentation... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah :( T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and putting &l>1 as a string gives an error T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it was posted by Zugg on his forum however :P tho it might be older thread, I didn't check T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it wouldn't work as a string because if I'm comparing numbers in 'l' it won't work over 10 I think T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: l is meant to be for level, I wanted to convert my eq db T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i can't get #query to work either T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod both seem to have same issue T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: same syntax in zmud works T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what do you use then, there are some sql dbs too I see T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: key-value pairs not enough columns T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: C defines long as at least 32 bits T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i just use the built-in database variables T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the ABI makers decided+to set it to 64 bits. Having that influence assembly syntax would+unnecessarily create incompatibilities, though, so it's unchanged. The impact+of changing it would be a lot larger in assembly, and it would not bring any +benefit (This seems to be the reason why gas doesn't use 64 bit constant's, or have the .long directive allocate them - and the 32 bit instruction's are shorter) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but yes, i have tested sqlite databases, never had problems with them T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Is there any downside to just using an SQLite db? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: downside is I don't know how to use it :( T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and looks complicated T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you know sql? (the language) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well no T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, it's easy enough :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I will be adding them manually anyways, so just need to do the search functions T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The basics are relatively easy to learn T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: pretty much the only things you'll need to know for an eq database are select and update, you don't need to get into advanced stuff T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, just select then T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is select search related T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Select is a query T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh sweet T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: SELECT from where T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: pretty much all you need to know T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that should be fields btw, not records T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it returns all the records that meet your criteria T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can it be visual db or it's hidden T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it can be visual if you download an sqlite viewer T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not built into cmud though T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what about adding stuff, it says it's done by 'insert' T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but has no example T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, you said you'd do that manually, but it's pretty much the same thing T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: INSERT INTO table (field, field, field) VALUES (value, value, value) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: insert into
values T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what is before the insert T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: because it'll send it to the mud T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #call T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #call %sql() T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #call would be for inserting T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're searching, you'll probably want to store it in something, so $results = %sql(db-name, "SELECT * FROM eq WHERE level=100") or something T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure how much of it is still relevant in cmud, but ozzy had some info on searching iwuvaard's database through zmud's calls at http://www.conradshome.com/iwuvzmud/ T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ADODB connection stuff wouldn't be needed for the local database, but the rest may be close T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: still relevant, although some specifics would make the process a little more efficient. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that's using microsoft's odbc systems via com, cmud can connect directly to databases now, and perform sql queries, etc T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: consider Ozzy's words like an old, old Mush plugin that you're trying to use in the newest version--it works, but so much other stuff has been put in that you could do it much better from scratch. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i remember that script :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i tried to modify it to search mobs instead of eq way back in the day, completely failed :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, wouldn't be too bad to search mobs, but you've got to join tables for area_id, whereas the eq database uses string for areaname T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, i'm sure i could do it now (though i don't really need it) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but i was a noob then :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: how can I move in the bigmap? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: clicking T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: using the directions n, s, e, w, u, or d. Every once in a while you have to use a non-standard command like SLEEP, FALL, or ENTER HOLE. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mohan, you're gonna have to be a little more specific T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: are you using Mush? are you referring to the bigmap miniwindow or the gmcp mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nods Gonf T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: which? the bigmap miniwindow plugin or mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: mapper T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: when I am inside an area it shows the rooms, but in a continent is shows all continent map T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what isn't working? if you go out of an area, into a continent, you can click to move T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Any cmud users out there? I'm trying to figure out how to make an alias for spo so that I stop sending mis's intended for spouse to sports. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: when I'm in a continent it doesn't work clicking T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can do that mudside, alias spo spouse T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can do mudside alias for it T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you really want it client side, #alias spo {spouse %-1} T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: thanks, all T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm...is it just me, or is %ansi(white) the same as %ansi(white,high) in cmud? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: %ansi(gray,high) is the same as %ansi(white,high) too...%ansi(gray) looks like our @w, and i can't get our @D T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and %colorsyntax confirms everything i just said :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is this a bug? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: which one script from Bast shows an echo of quests and pups? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anyone else using CMud having trouble using variables in stringlist trigger patterns? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: any one know of a mush client plugin that shows frinds online?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and friends offline T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No one has created one that I know of. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: "friend online" does that for you. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wow ill make one then T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Create a mini-window that just puts the friend ago in it. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So does "who friend" T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And for friends offline, you can do "friend ago" or "friend laston" T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: just installed miniwindow in mush and cant find the window T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is hidden! T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no duh how doi unhide it mr obvious T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody can say w/o knowing what you're talking about T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't install miniwindows in mush...they're a mush feature... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah but i got a newplugin and its a new miniwindow and its not coming up T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's some particular miniwindow plugin that you installed, which would have its own syntax according to the author T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: this one wont show up http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/Aardwolf/Aardwolf_FriendxLUA.xml T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That uses a world window, not a mini-window. Look at your world's open bar. The 2 should be red. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: nope no 2 T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is not even a window. It is a plugin that pulls up a list of friends. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Read the help in the plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and was written before miniwindows existed T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: so it doesnt work anymore??? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: READ THE HELP IN THE PLUGIN! T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it likely works, but it never gave miniwindows T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there's currently no reason to use it, since the MUD has better commands than it uses T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only reason for it today is note to friends T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: w0w Lasher eez 1 baI)azz mofo h3 r krush3z 3I\I3I\/I!3z n f33dz b0n3z 2 supa mutt T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i dissagree with that fact T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course you do T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's because you don't know any better :-) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: You can't disagree with something and acknowledge it as a fact at the same time. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: just sayin' T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Like I already said, 'friend online' shows only friends online. You can do 'friend laston' or 'friend ago' to see offline friends. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I couldn't even read that, much less comprehend or agree with it. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i know but it would be great to have in a window T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: including the information which is the main reason for the plugin to systematically finger each of your friends in turn T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that plugin doesn't do that T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you disagreeing with the usefulness of the plugin is based on? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: any plugin that fingers easch of your friends in turn has to die imho. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli is agreeing with that Ironfist Razor person again... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: the orig post said it did i am wrong i thought it was something else i will go find a diffrent one that does what i want T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc starts fingering T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: sounds like a Hook recruiting party. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: 120 fingers later... my fingers are quite tired. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I almost changed the rules once just so I could join Hook. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ironfist Razor shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers with Ironfist Razor about their shared secret. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: (only for the parties) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Don't change rules. Just change the coding. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: setclan razor Hook Wolf Crimson Baal Xunti Watchmen Light ... etc. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: I dunno Cidari threw better parties. even had pkrooms. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Of course, your finger information might span a few pages, but meh. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: did anyone try the android client yet? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yes it doesnt work very well T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: which one?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: there are about 3 of them T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You can't say it doesn't work very well without even knowing what he's talking about. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: yes you can, he just did. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i have tried all of them i am very sorry i havent slept in 3 days T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You'll find out in a future post. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: you can't say it without looking a little foolish though :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Haven't slept in 3 days? Might want to lay off the meth, kid. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: GreenAcid - breaking the rules of logic one sentence at a time. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im not on meth lol i just dont feel like sleeping T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Starling, I'm pretty sure he's on green acid, not meth. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: wish I could just not sleep for 3 days :( T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lol i dont even have any caffine T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lasher what were you talking about something like the android client? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it's an aard specific version of blowtorch T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: hang on.. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lasher amazing blowtorch is the only client i could get to work with aardwolf on android others wouldn connect T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/android-mud.htm T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Funny, because a friend uses andromud and it connects. *shrug* T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I connected fine using andromud, but blowtorch is better. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: and it's a minor thing, but very cool to see the aardwolf icon on my phone :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and telnet/ssh client connecting to a real client is even better :P) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hush, Abelinc. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: define "real" client? Triggers? Aliases? Mccp? What exactly does your "real" client have that blowtorch is missing? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: full features T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't even pretend that blowtorch is even a shadow of a client compared to computer clients T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: glad you clarified that. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggers != full scripting T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT nods. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to maintain two separate setups, trying to sync and recreate all scripts on two totally separate platforms T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: so what's your point? We're talking about a new mobile client. Do you have something of value to add besides "mine is bigger" ? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, I have to add that it's not mine...everyone can do it...even zmud and mush users :-) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Besides, the mobile client can be an entry way for new players. :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it were going out for marketing, then sure T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's also great for people on the go. *shrug* T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost as great for people on the go as what I suggest... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Dunno if 'marketing' is the right word for it, but nobody is going to try "blowtorch MUD client" unless they know what a MUD is. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: they might just try 'aardwolf rpg' in the games section. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: that's the main logic behind it, there's not much customization to the client itself, nothing like the extent of the mushclient package. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it seems like it will still require watching the development of blowtorch to maintain updates T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which could get tedious T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: perhaps, but I do have to agree that I'd never recommend anyone only ever play mobile. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i am getting astro now XD T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: but it's enough of a "real" client to get people interested. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it amazes me that anyone ever played twice on mxit. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Let alone a full time habit of it... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: afk T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: I could understand it if you don't have immediate access to a real client and want to run down your quest timer T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but you don't need actual features to run down qtimer ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im gonna try it now logging off on cpu now T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest keeping logged on with cpu T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: omg this is awsome T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you successfully connect, it'll kick off cpu for you T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: whoa a nesw thing T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: greatjob lasher T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now board tech, note read 5465 and use mobile to access your mushclient with plugins and mapper goto ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i will try that T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how should i go about installing it ? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it is exe based T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Even with a mobile client, such as pocket MUD? How would GMCP work on that? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greenacid, it's exe based because you run it on the computer with mushclient (or any other computer, really)...then you connect mushclient to it, then you connect to it from mobile or any other computer...you can set it up to send everything that you type in client 2 through client 1 first T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: that makes sense T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you access to the plugins & stuff when you're sitting at something that cannot run it T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the proxy is great for those that use GUI clients...for CLI clients you can connect to them without needing the proxy...the proxy still doesn't give access to the GUI itself, just the scripting T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you wouldn't be able to click on the mapper, but could use mapper find/goto T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: what does it do, just relay it as json (or similar format) to the client? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the proxy can take over and parse GMCP for those clients that don't natively support GMCP T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not even that, unless you tell it to...can have it be basically like the mccp proxy for MUSH use, or can have it pass the data on to zmud T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I guess you're technically still getting the 'out of band' advantages of GMCP too, although it would appear to spam you while in note write etc? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for mush, ignore that it can do gmcp, and let gmcp pass to mush natively as it does now...basically it'd be like a "screen -r loginname/" access T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when screen is set to allow sharing T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've been trying to find a way to get mush mapper to handle vidblain... the best i've managed to do is runt to the vidblain hole, enter hole and then re-search a speedwalk to the area.. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mapper portal is geared to be the other way around T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: has anyone worked out a may to make mush mapper play ball with vidblain T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper resume will work for that T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oooh.. *peers at mapper help output* T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm not sure how it works... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can i issue it mid-run? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what is the compression call gmcp or something?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: mccp? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no mccp not it might be something else T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: duck bat did something that let you transfer your aliases between computors and cliend what was it called T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mccp is compression T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and the comppresion is mccp T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: but i am looking for something else that i just said any one know?? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i dunno if it has a name...it's just some program that duckbat wrote T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Fiendish how is resume meant to work.. i'm on your sites wikia dn can't see anything regarding it. It's not obvious to me how it can be used for vidblain T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper resume recalls the last destination T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the mapper remembers the last room you were running to, and if your run fails (or you just want to go back) it does mapper goto T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so if i'm at recall i try to speed walk to it, it fails but remembers, i then run to vidblain, then i mapper resume? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will fail inside vidblain, so you don't need to do that part over T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will fail inside vidblain if you set up a link T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: otherwise, yes T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you don't set up the link, it will fail to find a path T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that would of course only work for specific room numbers, because it can't save a destination if it doesn't yet have one T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but if you link up the connection to vidblain from the hole, it would find a path. the path would just be wrong T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you can call mapper resume after T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depending on what you want and what constraints you have, there are a few ways of doing this T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: enter hole then use gcmp to place you in the correct room, then run to where ever. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. i've setup the hole.. ok... i'll try and mess around with it T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've already written an engine that finds a marked room in any area and will mapper goto it just by naming the area.. but vidblain defeats it as the destination room is always random T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless a portal is used T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. it uses the mapper path finder.. so i've setup all the mapper portals T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so i was looking for a way for it to integrate with the mapper to say "goto imperial nation" and for it to handle it without any hacks T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ideally to reverse of mapper portal T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: where the touid is * not the fromuid T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, the problem is that there is no "physical" link for the mapper to follow. They only way to do it is using an internal portal, but the problem is the mapper won't be able to react fast enough. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: anyone know how i can get this tetris thing to work? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: do you have a screwdriver? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: maybe... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: good to know. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: btw, i downloaded the android client on my phone and tablet T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaalt Tech: how is it? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i changed 'score' to 'home' and 'look' to 'map' T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: other than the action buttons, i dont see a difference than regular blowtorch T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: we got rid of all that "Ability to connect to other MUDs" bloat, nobody needs that. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ironfist Razor smiles happily. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: oh right the beginning screen T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: really razor? :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaalt Tech: ha! T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: read announce again, re what the point of it was. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: is there a way to put plugins on it or something? now thatd be cool T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Hmm, Aardwolf RPG? We do RPG here? Really? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Shush, you. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: compression is nice. i like that. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, what would you call it? :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaalt Tech: a chat room with levels T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Aardwofl MMO. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaalt Tech: ooo.... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: we are role playing. Or do you go around irl wielding aard wapons? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: telling people to read. On a text based game. If the bot can't process it, its lost to the ether. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in CMud I handled vidblain by validating the runto destination, and then doing two runto actions (first to vidblain, then to my original destination) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Spelt correctly, of course. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i love to pierce people with my dagger...what are you talkin about?! T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: right, Dokkar. But the pause between runs is what causes problems for automation. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: just get a gcp to vidblain. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos rapidly nods twice at Ironfist Razor, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, why? The whole thing--pause included--is automated. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shrug, 3 out of the 4 areas there have portals... :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: duckbat wrote a program to allow you to use aliasesany where you install it on your main cpu and then aliases and triggers work anywhere any one know where it is on his site????? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://duckbat.com/gmcp.zip T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: board tech, note read 5465 T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sure it is, mudside. But you can't hook to it client-side, there is no indicator sent by the mud. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's GMCP T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, there is GMCP. GMCP doesn't tell you where in the sw you are. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sure it does T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: by the time you look at the gmcp data, it is stale. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: doesn't have to. You're only interested in the result after ENTER HOLE. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: "Some people" I won't name think you're all bots and if I slightly (very slightly) obfuscate some mob names in gquest output to the point that a human could easily still read 'red gaurd' that gq complete times would seriously increase. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: either trigger on the zone being vidblain, the continent being id , or char.status.state not being 12(?) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I actually don't, in my naive little world people have extensive 'mobwalks' but are entering them manually. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: maybe it's time to find out :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: that would add a dimention to the gq ;) alphabet soup plus tangled towns :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why do that, though, when you could just subtly change the botting rules and leisurely nab us all? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm willing to name myself. I think you're all bots. And I think it's disgusting. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lasher your android client is great T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: dimension* T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: although it depends how you define bot, I'm sure there's a lot of "client says: I have queued up your speedwalk for your next target, please press enter" T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: as long as the mangled name doesn't become the name of another mob :p T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I mean, are you looking for excuses to delay subclass work even more?! :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I didnt make the client, no credit here T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I've been refining my bot for years. It's too much working being AFK manually all the time. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh who did T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if it were at all possible, I'd request a ban on all client aliases and triggers during gqs T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it isn't possible T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: gmcp data could be barred to gq participants :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: the same code that spells use, when its set to 95% or somethng u can still read it easly jst the odd tpyo, like this cht T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 5 years ago there wasn't any gmcp data.. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't do much...most bots predated GMCP T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: people botted gqs before gmcp :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the idea isn't to ban them, it's to make their use so intensive that people simply won't use them because they aren't competitive anymore. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, they did. But I bet a lot of them have switched over. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just worried about stuff like grod -> grof T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Bah, disable the gmcp, make the GQ target, kill, etc messages random, or add in a "drunk" scrambler like in mafia... goodbye bots. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shrug, my mapper works fine with or without gmcp on :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, that's certainly the idea. If everyone has the same tools then that's equivalent to no one having any tools. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that is the thought-process, at least, behind the mud developers who took the time to write up anti-triggering routines that replace random letters in game messaging with * or some other symbology. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: which is why bots dont want to play muds where botting is allowed. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: exactly T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: board 1 note write all policies7 is no longer in effect .p T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: by the definition of help gqbot, everyone is a bot. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: coz everyone is faster than me. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: and even if they weren't, I'd kill 3 mobs then get distracted. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using * or other symbology in place of random letters wouldn't make bots expensive, since it's a known substitution T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it would be interesting to make that change and see if '2 tick regulars' suddenly take 10 though. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Like I said, use that drunk scrambler. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, drunk or spell scrambler would be good T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: if you mean the mafia one, that's already using the spell obfuscate code. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: nodnod T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Dokkar - that's what i'm resorting to as well :) a Trivia portal would solve all of my issues :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but would still need to watch out for close likenesses as red said T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: on the other hand, don't you have leet Lasher-only tools to make your life as Supreme Being extra-convenient? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just add a check after the switch to make sure it doesn't match any known mob name T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: some clan published something about how humans read and they had a semi-scrambled sentence that was quite understandable even with all the scrambled letters. But code would go ape trying to figure it out. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I think it was Emerald. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, obfuscating grot to gro would still mean you don't know which one it is T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: so that could be used in gqs. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: How about we IMP random thunderbolts from above. At Lasher's sole discretion. Any player on a GQ has the chance to be reduceed to 1hp at any given moment. Chance increases with remort/tier. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: anyway, me tired. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: can't even keep track of two windows. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: I'm bored, and should be getting ready for work. Don't mind me. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I'd suck at real multiplaying on someone else's mud. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas gallantly tips his hat. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, anaristos, that sounds like the stupid thing about the university of cambridge study or something like that about the first and last letters T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it works, and there are even more interesting tricks about the mind. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, that's what it is, I think. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: bots couldn't handle it, though. So it could be used in gqs :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: while lasher is here, and we're talking about bots.. i still think there should be a slight delay after every kill for big GQ winners *beg* T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I take it back, the bots that could handle it would probably swamp most people's cpus. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: for example, tell people to focus on some small thing about an event (ie, counting turnovers in a basketball game) and then have someone in a gorilla suit run through the event. Later, if you asked how many people saw the gorilla at least half of them would go "What gorilla?" T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: give the newbies a figting chance to win one T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: give me a fighting change to win what, forget the newbies :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make the 1000+ winners sweat for theirs T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: why is WinkleWinkle seeking to ruin the fun with punitive-delays T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what is more fun a 5-0 game or a neck and neck 4-4 game that wins at the last moment? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only 33 people have over 1k wins, and a fair number of those are inactive T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: at this point, any delay would be punitive since there really aren't any to begin with. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the 5-0 game is more fun T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in my note earlier i suggested a tiny delay for say 250 winners, and slightly larger one for 500, 750, etc T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I would bet that gq speed is inversely proportional to how many join, since folks would sense the lack of competition and go slower. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: entropy is a wonderful thing :) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so should tiers be given a handicap to give newbies a fighting chance in killing them? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Redryn, that is a discussion for another night T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well... is that what tiers do to players, increases the inertia? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the 4-4 with a 5th sudden-death-round is obviously fixed T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm just saying that i know plenthy of people who dont' even bother any more with GQs because theyre is NO CHANCE whatesoever of winning.. wouldn't it be more fun if lots of people got involved? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those people don't deserve anything T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why not run concurrent ones? If you're tX, you get the tX list. Perhaps they all march to the same timer, but the GQ stays active until all aspects resolve themselves (being won or timing out) T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they only have no chance because they don't bother working on a chance T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't deserve a chance just because you exist...if you're not going to try to compete, which not only makes you better through experience, but also gets you QPs to make yourself stronger, you don't deserve a helping hand for no effort on your own part T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: could even make them interesting by allowing for pk and suchlike across tiers T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PK across tiers is already allowed T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you know what I mean. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no I don't T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean for non-PK players, then it was a stupid comment...if you mean for PK players, then it already exists T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if you want to win gquests, learn programming and learn to tweak the aardclient - that is what pwrplayers do - they learn new (programming) skills T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think he meant opk T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so whichever way you turn, no T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, audreyiv works hard at tweaking his client T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirOmega Tech: Is Bast around? T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's my point.. GQ winners shouldn't necessarily be the one who are the best coders T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the aardmapper already provides a massive advantage T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they aren't T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless you do the Xyliz, and wait until a gquest comes along where everybody else is slower or not competing T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and anyone who isn't isn't going to win unless it's solo T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my response was sarcastic...most of audreyiv's wins were on telnet...no coding T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't really have anything client-based for GQs either T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: speedtypists are cheaters - they are using superior genetic abilities to win T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I suck at GQs at lowbie and SH levels, but can compete reasonably well with the nonprofessionals from around 60 through 180 just using my in-head knowledge...I even still copy/paste "gq info" into a text editor when on them and have won half a dozen in the past week or two, none of them solo and some with decent GQers T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and how does Abelinc know what Audreyiv is using as a client, unless ... T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless audreyiv has not kept it a secret T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Abe really digs the size of Audrey's laserpointer. :P T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think most people on this channel know what I use as a client as well T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not real sure, really. You seem to not only try all of them, but keep up on them as well. T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: man of many bots T3/r3/2011-06-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I keep up on them, but don't use them...I've never installed zugg's products, just try to pay enough attention here to know the easy answers T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Is there a way to edit the chat plugin that comes with the Aardwolf MUSHclient? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I want it to only capture one channel T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I plan to add that feature soon T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: holy shit there's an Android aardwolf mud client now? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: time to get an android phone :> T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: I already have one T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i'm getting the galaxy s2 once it's out in my country T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that one is on the top of my list as well T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just need to convince my boss I need it for work :) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone got insight why query isn't working on cmud 3.34 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: didn't know it wasn't working, have you asked on the cmud forum? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I don't use the native db any more. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what kind of sql is the cmud db T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: says file is not an sqlite 3 db T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Illicit Tech: mysql ? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you asking me ? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: anyone recomend a good NES Emulator? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The nes I have hooked up right now :-) Nothing beats finding the sweet spot to push to get that cartridge to load :-) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also - Faxanadu was better than Zelda - 9 out of 10 Norse historians agree T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: got 2x USB Logitech controllers rdy to go though x.X T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Back in the day we used Nestopia to run them at school - I see it's still on emuzona, try that one T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: EmuzonE, even T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not sure how to add entry in this sql T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is this the syntax to add an entry to sql in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #call %sql("INSERT INTO asd ("asd1") VALUES ("value1")") T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Mozilla, still a good browser to use. If so, what version is the latest, and anyone know a good download page? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: By Mozilla, do you mean ff? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nod, FF T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 4 just came out - only one dl page though, google firefox :-) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nice tks, do you recomend it? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I still use 3, just laziness on my part though - I likee me some adblocker :-) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: read T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: wny is it that the area wildwood is mapped in my mapper, but I cannot purge it? it does not appear on the mapper areas list. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: why* T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: is there a way to disable the automatic resizing of the command input bar? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kurojiryuu Look in the release notes and find where it was changed. Go to the Aardwolf.mcl file and determine what the difference was. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: wow, awesome. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: real helpful, thanks =D T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kurojiryuu: Look for line auto_resize_command_window="y" in the Aardwolf.mcl file. I think this is it. Change the y to n. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: just relogged, and got this error message T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: repeated about 50 times, it's been working fine previously T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: mieko, you have bast's spellup T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, reinstall it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I had to disable the broadcast and the miniwin to get it to go away T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: his stuff are buggy T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I've been trying to reinstall, guess I'll be in and out of the mud a bit. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type bsp help to get the help window and debug it. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: miniwin stats ran out of memory again T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I fail adding an entry row in my sqlite cmud db T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why would that be T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: first line, first two words. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'd give you a cookie but you're too insignificant T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone can help with qlite ? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: any of you ever imbedded angelscript into something? I'm really confused. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I type #sqldb asd T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it says something about sqlite.dll T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: none of the dynamic libraries could be found T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is that T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: haven't installed the sqlite dlls properly maybe? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they're both in the cmud folder T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: What was the command to have bash_hunt use the mapper? It was mentioned on here the other day.. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use ha to have it hunt it for you. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I remove the empty spaces at the end of a string in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can replace the double spaces T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but if odd number there's 1 blank space in the end T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: use trim or a regex to clean that out T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: check for trim or rtrim. I don't know cmud. but It's usually called trim :) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: replace " $" with "" T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't do the $ because the spaces vary T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's trim will check it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh ye it's superhot now T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: thank you T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: orgasmic I was doing complicated replaces before, didn't think about T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: %trim T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: going back to speaking of "ha" to have it hunt for you.. what is mud policy on auto hunt scripts that don't kill anyhting? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: those are legal T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if they just hunt T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sweet if they hunt and then move in that direction? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and then re-hunt until they find it? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: my auto hunt simply yells out insults till the person finds me and attacks themself, is that illegal? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: that'd be auto-hunting... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sounds like auto-taunting... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: school yard rules... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. so i wanted to check that becasue i was told that might be banned.. but if a hunt, move , re-hunt until found, no attacky-attacky, is legal, then that's nice T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Everytime i close out of Mushclient and reopen it, my plugin windows reset to default...how can I fix this? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: stop closing it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: youre sooooo hilarious T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: where's it installed? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: i'm pretty sure there's a "save layout" somewhere in there T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: my documents T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: File>Save World Settings T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: File>Save World Details* T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: its still not working :( im opening the right world file T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: do you have two copies of mush installed? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: well, the old one...i just updated and copied the files over. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: its working fine other than it keeps resetting T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it looks to me like you didn't update properly. did you follow the instructions for upgrading on aardwolf.com? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you're opening it by double clicking the world file, it can openin it in whichever version the extension is registered to.. which may be the old mush dir T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: yes. copied over what i was supposed to, but not my plugins T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you copy over MUSHclient.exe? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: far safer to doubleclick the mushclient.exe T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're not supposed to copy MUSHclient.exe T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i didnt T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i copied over the saves from my plugins though, but it didnt even work T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: hmmm state T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it works for everyone else, but I could be wrong T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people tend to not tell me when things don't work T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: rename your old version of mushclient.exe to mushclient.ex_ just to mkae sure that one isn't being run T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: perhaps.. i could be barking up the wrong tree T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: ok thanks ill try T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hey fiendish.. does mapper check if a room is already added jsut by it's uid? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it compares all data received from the mud T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for the given uid T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. good to know.. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: search the plugin for the line containing "re-save if we got information that is different than before" T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was thinking of a strategy for vidblain still... but i'll rule out my hair(hare?) brianed idea T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how do you find out the area id of a area? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: areas aylor keyword T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thats not working im trying to find the area id of oz T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you will need a two-part speedwalk. Check in the initial runto call for one of the 4 areas in vidblain and substitute the entrance to vidblain. You then just detect for that room, and ENTER HOLE when there. Once you receive the next gmcp.room.info message and figure out where you are, you can just send a new runto to your original destination. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: areas oz keyword T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh thanks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what is the keyword do T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: shows the keyword T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Instead of the builder T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh but that doesnt give me the area id T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: myrkul does something very similar.. yes i think i'm going to have to write some sort of hack work around for that.. that's fine.. i actually liked the puzzle of trying to make it work T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: landofoz is the area id T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohhi thought it was a number T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: trez, what is your issue with query? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So, I just downloaded release 1062, and am currently running it, yet it's telling me I'm running 1054. Any reason why? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the version number wasn't updated? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Tried again, same result. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Are you sure you're running the right exe file? If you're using a shortcut, make sure it's pointing at the right one T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it may be the version number is incorrect int he install files i meant T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: version number is everything. fx 5 just came out T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: would you guys say blowtorch is better than mxit? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: without a doubt T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mxit is not a mud client, it just happens to have telnet abilities T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: can you maby say some of the main advantages. I dont know blowtorch and maby want to start there when i get a new phone? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: I've used Blowtorch a bit now. It's actually quite good once you set it up :) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: It's made with a touch-screen interface in mind. Also a on-screen keyboard. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: blingking: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/ T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: so it has like a inline edit for touch? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: is that the site where you donload it? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Download it from Aardwolf's site. The link is in the announce note. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's the blowtorch homepage T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you download it from the android marketplace, which is linked from that page, and if you want the aardwolf version, what etzli said T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: ok. Cool so what that other site? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i just told you...it's the blowtorch homepage... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you asked what the features of blowtorch are, that's the site you go to to find out T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: ok cool. Lol yeah sorry sent my msg then got yours T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: mxit slow T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's why you shouldn't use mxit :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll say it again, mxit is not a mud client. it's for chatting. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blingking Tech: hahaha yeah thx. Only problem is im using mxit for free. But i guess blowtorch will be expensive with all the data moving around T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Any linux guys around able to help me figure out why my wifi is so laggy on my linux partition, but lightning fast on my window partition? Basically, i have a toshiba satellite l655 with the rtl8188ce chipset running ubuntu 10.10, and installed the rtl8192ce-dkms to get wireless working, but it's laggy as hell when i try to mud. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is it definitely the wifi that's the problem? I found running mush in wine on linux a bit laggy, and massively more so if running binary nvidia video drivers T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my first guess would be sucky drivers T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It worked fine on 11.04 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I just recently downgraded because i hated the 11.04 setup T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: new, suckier drivers then? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, sounds like drivers then T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: OH wait T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 11.04 had an updated kernel that included my chipset, so i didn't need a proprietary driver T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I bet that's it, dontcha think? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Maybe 11.04 fixed the video driver problem too? I only had problems with 10.10, are you using proprietary nvidia drivers? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sounds like it, have fun updating your kernel :p T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Meh T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'll just dist-upgrade and apt-remove --purge unity T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: wouldn't that just take you back to 11.04? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Let me check, lyte, i think i am T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think there's a way to disable unity anyway, maybe from the login screen, not sure 'cos I don't use ubuntu now T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, but it wasn't so bad without unity T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I mostly reinstalled because i tried several distros (xubuntu-desktop, etc) and cluttered it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, you can choose 'ubuntu classic' in the login screen T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Though, it doesn't support most advanced graphics T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ATI/AMD graphics driver T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh god, the graphic drivers T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: especially ati ones T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i tried to get tv-out via s-vhs working. gave up and installed xp T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Got a better solution? :p T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. right there ^ T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think there might have been some issues with ATI drivers too, not sure, I run an ancient nvidia card. Try searching the help forums, there was a massive unresolved thread last time I looked (at least 6 months ago) with various suggestions of a fix including experimental kernels and such T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, now my 10.10 doesn't support my external monitor well :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. 10.10 here, too T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or ex-10.10 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Screw it, looks like i'll have to upgrade T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought i'll give linux another go, i was sorely disappointed T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's hard to mud when your internet locks up midfight for as long as 20seconds T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just public computers for web browsing. worked great until some were needed for music and movies playback T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: vlc dude, vlc T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i know T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never got tv-out working T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ahh T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Try the open source drivers if you can manage without the 3d stuff. Might be worth trying it, see if that's the cause of the problem. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and rhythmbox didn't play music off an external drive for more than 20 minutes T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: heh, drive go to sleep? :p T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: something like thet T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that* T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Mine does T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it plays nearly constantly T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have it attached to a different computer sharing the drive like a NAS enclosure, so i guess it's different T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't care. it didn't work and i couldn't get it working. i get paid by the our and i felt i shouldn't rip off my customers T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hour* T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Alternatively, do as I did, dual-boot to windows to run mush, and use linux for everything else :) *runs away quickly* T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks! T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger doesn't use mush. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hardware so cheap these days, just run a VM T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm a sane person. i use software that works the best. w7 for desktop and debian for my servers. i'm perfectly happy with my setup T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: virtualbox is quite good these days T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Run a dualboot, have it bridged, ssh in, etc T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Just put the startvm in the startup folder T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: centos/redhat servers here, very nice performance T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: Linux is pretty good for most things in my opinion. I have not had a windows box in my house since 2002. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho ubuntu is nice for the public computers i built. they only have chromium, fx, emesene and skype installed T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hmm, really? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: disabled video driver, lag gone T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: completely T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: onboard video? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but everything went to hell when i tried advanced operations like tv-out and using external media T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, the driver was just for 3d acceleration T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, spoke too soon T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: hate that >< T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lag's MOSTLY gone T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: Dagnir, Have you tried Mint? Supposedly Ubuntu with additional drivers and such installed. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I can deal with 1-2 sec randomly, versus 20s consistently T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, my question is - why use linux as a desktop os in the first place? it seems most people do it out of the principle (and i've been there myself) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I hate that mint uses the name of an old amiga unixy OS :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i run my oss on a windows machine because it friggin works :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: I do it because I am paranoid and encrypt the krap out of everything... as well as using it in my media server, and etc. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Because Linux is awesome. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I like being able to change what i want to change without all the fuss windows gives me T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, i agree - linux is awesome T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: on a SERVER T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you can figure out how to change what you want to change T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I have my maptop dual-booted with Win7 and Arch. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would like to see a Tablet Ubuntu. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Laptop* T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I dual boot 10.10 and win7 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tablets already have a nice linux flavor - android T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: meh. Linux is great... as long as you're not using Ubuntu. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: My two favorite distros are Arch Linux and Debian. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What about the android security issues I have read about. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: I boot ubuntu, gentoo, and OpenBSD T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I like Arch T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yay for debian. that's what i run on my servers T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Powerful, and fast -- and doesn't sit on updates for months T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I currently use Ubuntu, but I'm thinking about switching to Aptosid T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: no sane person runs arch on a stable server. >.> T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so sane person would run anything but debian or gentoo on a server ;) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Debian's not bad on a stable server. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I mostly use linux on the desktop 'cos it's free (I'm out of work due to illness), and I like doing a bit of coding. There's a lot better free programming tools and variety of languages on linux, and it runs better on old hardware, I'm running it on a 533 pentium and a 2.6 Athlon, both work fine T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I've seen arch updates break way to much though. thus rendering it not quite stable. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not bad? name a distro that's more stable :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: my favorite server OS are OpenBSD and GemSOS T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is the difference between Ubuntu and Aptosid? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i forgot about that - linux is great for software development as well T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Aptosid is based on debian sid T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Call me crazy, but I like the amount of work Arch makes you do. You have to do more configuration on Arch than you do if you use something like apt-get on Debian or Ubuntu. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and thus has rolling unstable releases T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: But then again, I always did love complicated stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Raulath. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Debian! stick with stable and you'll still get security updates, and not be running the newest and greatest all the time. new and great are not always the best solutions with security in mind. And if you need something newer for a better reason than it's new, you can just compile. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Slackware is pretty good for servers, we used it at one of my former jobs for all our internal and web servers, tends to steer clear of the bleeding-edge stuff T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm through that phase now. i just want something that works. that's why i use w7 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I have arch on a laptop here, and I love it. It's just... not for servers. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what about windows? :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: debian stable should be renamed to debian obsolete T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's teh best!!11 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: windows should never do servers, ever T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, exchange servers are useful T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: and rumor is that Apple's iCloud is running on Azure T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: windows doesn't make a good server. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: eurgh.. Azure is bollocks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: then again, neither does OSX and people still use that. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Having worked with windows servers and seen a big hosting company which I worked for try to migrate to windows-based hosting (with a lot of help from microsoft and a lot of problems) I'm very wary of windows for servers T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Best Sever OS was the Punchcards! T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Hahaha T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: MS's Hyper-V isn't too bad.... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what was the page with the modified blowtorch client on aardwolf? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: board announce;note read last T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: what's the simplest method in cmud to make sure a trigger doesn't fire twice in a row because the triggering phrase appears twice within 2 lines. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: disable it temporarily T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: how do i make a subtraction statement in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (x-y)... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not too complicated :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i tried that but ended up having to use 1+-1 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shouldn't have to, just make sure to put your expression in parentheses whenever you're doing arithmetic T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: thank you T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: try x+(y*-1) if you want to get complicated :) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: nah gotta keep things simple as possible i'm lost in the sauce when it comes to trying to code T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone know anything about Bast's plugins? his help page isnt very. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: lotsa people do.. whats your question? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I downloaded the big zipfile, and put hte whole folder in my plugin folder. then loaded miniwin-tabbar, the CP miniwin, abd the broacast cp, and they all loaded sucessfuly.. how do I get the mini win to show? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They only show when you have a cp to complete. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm on a cp now T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you see the miniwin_tabbar window? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if not, type mtab tabwin toggle T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: the zipfile that I downloaded when I got basts plugins had what seemed like two sets T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i dont see it, and that command didn't seem to do anything T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I got it to work best when I just installed them all from the V6.1 folder... and then removed the ones that I didn't want T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, there's just 1 set T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's no longer a v6.1 folder, it's now a bast folder T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I personally use the mini_events.xml instead of mini_gq.xml, mini_quest.xml, and mini_cp.xml. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thats what I'm talking about Turie T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I have mini_events.. and each individual ... mini gq.. mini quest... mini cp T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: disabled all the individuals... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I reinstalled the cp mini, and now therea a tiny window.. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Disable and remove the mini_cp.xml, and so on. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is says "show windows" and "hide windows" T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: enable miniwin_events T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a tab in the mini_events.xml that has Quest, CP, GQuest T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mcp CP toggle toggles the miniwin_cp T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: and all the xBroadcasts T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Keep all the broadcasts. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn nods at Turie. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, broadcasts are prerequisites for the miniwins T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: which of you are helping me and which aren't? I'm getting confused T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: we're all saying the same things :) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I'll shut up T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: broadcast* is backend to grab info...miniwin* is front-end displays T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all are attempting to help by relaying their experiences T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I got that I need two parts to eahc plugin, a boradcast and a miniwin T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and one page of his site mentioned that they all need minitabbar. so I did htat one, the both cp ones T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: who made the android client?? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the author of Blowtorch T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you don't want miniwin and broadcast for everything T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I've got a very small window, top part has the M, -, and X, second past (row?) says "Show Windows", third row says "Hide Windows". but neither are clickable T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you want all the broadcasts... and the miniwin you got.. + events miniwin T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so his plugins are all or nothing? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: enable the events miniwin and cp broadcast and type cp check T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nope.. you can disable them, but you probably want them all T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: so he just modified it to aardwolf? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Oh! there is it! T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not even modified, really, just presetup T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: in addition to the setting window you should see an events window.. with a cp tab in it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh ok T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cera, no, his plugins aren't all or nothing...it's best to pick & choose which ones you want to use T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I can't resize the events window? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: its size should be based on its expected contents...it's not likely written to scroll T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok.. and I dont see a way to change the font.. I'd at least like to make the current font bigger. :( T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it's like size 8. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly have to edit the file for that, if there's no right-click option T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: does any one here know how to set up duckbat's gmcp?? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: it's pretty straightforward. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: edit the textfile for it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's very commented T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh ok T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: the default port for mushclient is port 22 right? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pick whatever port you want T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 42! the answer is always 42! T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i know but what is the default connection port for mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever one you specify T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: WHAT IS THE DEFAULT T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: THERE IS NONE, IT IS A CLIENT, NOT A SERVER T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: LOUD NOISES T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: There is no 'default' for aardwolf. certain clients make their own 'default' but it's not aard that's doing it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the well-known port for telnet is port 23 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: which port is mushclient set up to use as a default when connecting to aardwolf? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok how do i see which one i am useing in mush client? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: probably 4000 if you're on aard mush T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH doesn't choose, aard does T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: is it a USB port? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: no its not USB T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help ports to see what aard actually bothers to listen to...any of those are fine...but none of those are what you'd set mushclient to when using duckbat's gmcp T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: then what should i set the gmcp to? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything you want T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it doesnt matter at all? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just have things agree with each other T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you set it to listen to 1234, then you'd tell mushclient to connect to 1234 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: thank you T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'd change mushclient to connect to 127.0.0.1 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you'd actually read the config file, this is all covered T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what does duckbat mean by Set 127.0.0.1 to allow only local connections and 0.0.0.0 to allow all connections T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i am reading it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you only want the computer running this proxy to be able to connect to it, then use 127.0.0.1 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to connect to it from elsewhere (like mobile phone), then 0.0.0.0 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: but if i am at work i need to set it to 0.0.0.0? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're basically setting an in-program firewall T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, if you're running this on a home computer to be able to access it from another computer or phone, then you must have that line say 0.0.0.0 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember, there are 2 totally different uses for duckbat's program T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one use is to give gmcp capability to programs that don't have it natively...in that case, it's operating like the mcclient proxy, and only needs to listen to the local machine T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: got it that makes sense T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the other use, which was initially a byproduct but is really useful, is what you're trying to do T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: so if i set it to 0.0.0.0 do i need to connect to aard with 0.0.0.0 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't touch the address of aardwolf or port of aardwolf T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you won't use 0.0.0.0 anywhere other than that one line of this file T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok so leave port at 4010? and in the config leave as 7777?? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that if you use a router at home, you'll need to set up port forwarding on the router for the "listenport" T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: that's always fun T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Does anyone happen to know if an FC40 to SATA converter even exists? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh joy port forwarding XD T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fibre channel to sata? doubt it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I have a stack of 146GB drives that are FC40, and wouldnt mind making SOME use of them T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nod...we decommissioned an old EMC symmetrix and some midsized sunfires that were all FC T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: when i port forward what ip address do i need to forward? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I'd love to be able to take advantage of a 15k rpm drive :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to forward to the internal IP that the computer running this program has T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What do you all think of SSD's in laptops? Finally into a position to get a new one, and considering going the SSD route. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how di o i find my internal ip and it needs to be static to right?? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: go to run, type cmd, then type ipconfig T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get PCI FC cards, but tbh you can get a terrabyte sata drive for under a hundred bucks nowadays :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I wish there were bigger, more affordable SSDs. I'd love to be able to have 1-2TB SSDs. Heh T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: ...until you ran it for a while and it failed on you T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I guess I could just take the whole damn server rack from work rather than just the drives T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you get a bunch of 'em & build in the redundancy T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: which addres there my 1pv4? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, ipv4 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: on my wireless connection? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on whatever connection is powering this computer T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this program is turning the computer into a server T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how do i know if it is static or not?? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it really shouldn't matter T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im sorry about the onslaught of questions im not used to network config T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm just concerned about the SSD chips 'going bad' T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I've not really looked into SSDs since the early days of them, but I hear that they've gotten mostly past their write cycle issues T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dhcp attempts to give the same address even when set to non-static, so circumstances where you get a different address on a home network are rare T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: SSD write cycle issues still 'exist' but they're not as big a deal as most people made them out to be. it's now at a ridiculously high value, and it's per block. minor concern at this point. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: I think the mean time to failure is now higher than regular spindle based disks. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I am an admin on the largest private network in the world, but I really dont know crap about that stuff :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: I'm still learning as I go on a lot of it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to set a clientpassword in the file...then comes decision time...for best use, the one where I described getting all of mushclient's scripting features from anywhere, you'll need to set echocommandblahblah to 1, and then you'll need to set up a trigger on mushclient to parse the "You still have to kill * the orc general (A Peaceful Giant Village) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to parse the "{INPUT} 127.0.0.1 entered command: 'look'" format T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok i have another question i have something called hamachi log me in a virtual ip auto config how would i port duckbat's program through hamachi? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd ignore that, really...no reason to tunnel through it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i dont want my main ip to connect to be static ive hear that there is a possible security risk T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hamachi doesn't change your main IP T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives you a secondary IP in addition to your main one T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hamachi lets 2 computers talk to each other in a way that's harder to eavesdrop on, but it doesn't do anything for the security of either computer from the world at large T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok i should ask this then, is there a security risk for static ip addresses? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah i know what hamachi does T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a security risk for everything that is accessible from the internet T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: but is there more of one on a stitic vs dhcp? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have no control over static vs dhcp, other than changing ISPs T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh ok so i t doesnt matter thats what i was thinking T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: It'll be nice when IPV6 is in wide use... It'll be a lot harder to guess valid IPs, or at least that's how it seems. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hamachi doesn't make you static vs dhcp, and setting your internal network to static vs dhcp doesn't matter T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, a lot of isp's let you choose T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: static ips generally cost more T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at The Reaper Myrkul. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nowadays, even nonstatic broadband connections are virtually static T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok ill change to static i have an isp that lets me chosre T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok for duckbat's gmcp do you need to set the listen port to the port that you connect to the mud on? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the listen port is the port that it listens for client connections on...they can be the same port, but only coincidentally T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the listen port is the port that you'll use in mushclient, telnet, putty, midpssh, etc T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody good with regular expressions who can explain something? -> (0|0x)\d*\s\1\d* will match "0x1234 0x4321", but not "0x1234 01234" T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: what's the order of operation's there? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it seems that the \1 is used in the match expression substituted as the expression that matched in the alternative |, then the \1 becomes one or the other alternative? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or the literal string's that are matched to that part of the alternative are substituded into the string after it's evaluated? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hte \1 must be the parenthesized expression... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it was "0x", the \1 must be 0x T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a backreference, it doesn't mean (0|0x)...it means "what was matched in the first set of parenths T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want it to mean (0|0x), then that's what you'd type instead of \1 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so it see's 0x, once, then \d one or more time's, followed by space, followed by a \1 (and the same \d*) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the \d*s have nothing to do with each other, so they match independently T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the \1 is the result of your capture, like using %1 in the code, but still within the pattern T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: does the \1 only substitute to the part of the (0|0x) that matched, then followed by the numbers? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the capture was a 0x though T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i see now T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it only substitutes to the part of the (0|0x) that matched, the capture T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, so it is only a 0x T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anfd not a 0 possible T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and vise versa, it would match 01234 01234, but not 01234 0x1234 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: these thing's can be scary, lol, thanks for helping me put that into better perspectives T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't mean "the pattern in the first ()"...it means "the matched text from pattern in the first ()" T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: right, cause the \1 would be a 0 in that case T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.regular-expressions.info/brackets.html, read the part about Using Backreferences in The Regular Expression ;) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so \1 is about the same as Zscript's &varname (that is, it matches anything)? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I like that site...written by the guy that wrote my text editor T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \1 in the pattern is the equivalent of %1 in the code, dokkar T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it doesn't match anything, it matches what the capture matched T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i usually use the vi editor, it's difficult but does have alot of potential T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: nod, called a quantified atom T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hmm, so basically it's a form of a named parameter (in CMud it'd be ($name:wildcards)) T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a named parameter, no T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a backreference T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: named parameters/variables mean that you can call it by that name later...this is still inside the pattern matching, not later T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: anyone know if there was a change mudside that would make my clan channel flash or is it more likely client side? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client side T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only client side. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: ok was just checking i haven't been here in a few T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't do flashing T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What's our Vector rips his clothes off and parades naked around the room! T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What's our Vector Tech: sure it does :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What's our Vector Tech: sorry coudnt help it :( T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swiftly you jerk open your jacket, trying to get him to notice you. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does this flash? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: not for me. In mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, seem to remember someone recently saying that their client was flashing on the MUD's gray T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: ah no this is flashing just clan channel T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, but if you had clan colorset to it, it could explain it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: hmmm could be because i have clan set to xterm and this laptop isn't xterm compatible? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't say it's impossible, and definitely a bug if that's the case... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try turning xterm off mudside T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: yep thats it T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: interesting reaction T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, interesting T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone know if there's a way to disable xterm in cmud? :P T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: type XTERM T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's mudside T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: XTERM is just a remapping scheme for ansi T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: whatever it is, can i disable it client-side? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: turn off ansi, I suppose T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: want to test that bug T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xterm isn't a remapping scheme for ansi, it's an extension of T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ansi only offers 16 colors...you can't remap 16 and get 256 T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: but those 16 don't have to be equivalent to what they are in ansi. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, zmud flashes some xterm stuff T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what they are is arbitrary T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: hmm anybody know a possible reason why mud connection works but firefox or other apps using the internet doesn't? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: router conflict, perhaps T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dns resolution T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Dns T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT seems to think you have the right idea. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ah..any ideas on how to fix that? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: apparently routers are capable of running without configuration when there's like 3 or less computers involved, but to have more you have to set things up correctly or it don't work. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Could also be a problem with a firewall setting T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Check your router settings T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: hmm okay doing so now thanks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok i got the duckbats gmcp configered but its not working and i am on a diffrernt network T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set up the port forwarding on your router? then you need to connect to your router's external IP T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how do i connect to external ip T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: and how do i find what it is T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on your computer running it, go to www.whatismyip.com T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: get adapter of some kind and preferably with its own software and check routers ip T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL. T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what >_> T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: what other flash players work for IE and Fox that ISNT adobe. I updated it, cause it made me, and now i cant play anything that uses it. Just locks up the program that tries to T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: everything else works JUST fine T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: web specifically, loads everything on the page then tries to get whatever video is on it and locks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok im connected but the lag is incredible T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok im gonna repeat my questio why is the lag soo great im sorry if it was answered but lag was like 30 sec to min had to switch to cpu T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: working with transferring gmcp protocall to diff networks its confuzzling T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: uhh i dont like it much T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sorry about all the misssed any answers to my q's T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: tech -h 15 should show history T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: kk T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: darn no one answed T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lag is based on all networks between the machine you're typing on and the machine running the proxy, plug all the networks between the machine running the proxy and the MUD T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: plug?? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when accessing the proxy remotely, it'll usually be a bit less than double the lag you have locally T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: are you saying it will be faster? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i am brand new to this wierd proxy and networking stuff sorry if im stuupid T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: a bit less than double the lag is not less... T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, what you type has to go across more stuff T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you type it, it has to make its way to home computer, then make its way to MUD T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead of directly making its way to MUD T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok any way to make it less? T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i get what you are saying now T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: choose better networks T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it really shouldn't be very noticeable at all T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: well i was accesing on 3g so ill try again with a broadband T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: it was about 30 seconds lmao T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, cell will always be laggy...make sure you were actually on 3G and not a lower cdma T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: but i had lotsa stuff running on both the phone and my cpu T3/r3/2011-06-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i might have been on lower ill try at friends house sometime T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using bast's latest release? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there any way to blacklist an exit from the mapper's pathfinding? i.e. an aq locked door or a room of aggros? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just don't go there :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I want to get -around- there another way :-) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Should be simple enough to do though, I have that feature in my own implementation of the mapper. Just another thing to check when making a path. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Though I suppose a multi-move cexit would work ?:-|? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As it treats it as one move, right? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: associate a cost with entering the room T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Isn't it possible to remove rooms from the mapper? That should do the trick. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: if you add a cost weight to the pathfinder and then assign costs to rooms (default 0) that would work for any room. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the pathfinder would choose the cheapest room first, you could also make max cost as do not enter. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure aard mapper doesn't have cost weighting T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: help me figure out why I can't add an sqlite entry T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on cmud T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: is the mushclient supposed to open cmd.exe prompt window? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: every time i start it it accesses my command window for something, its too brief to see what it is but nothing else seems to have to T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sounds like the mapper running zip to compress a backup T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that'll be it T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: okies, thanks just makin sure im not at risk or something T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it used to be longer when it used compression... though the mush should display text in your world screen about "DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING" T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you'r enot seeing that.. then there might be a problem? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient only opens a cmd prompt window if you turn on compression T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: otherwise it doesn't T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you currently use compression and want the faster uncompressed backups you can type "mapper backups uncompressed" T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: whats the mapper command to get a SH drag? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nebmaatre chuckles politely. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm typing #sqldb test1, it creates some db T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I do #call %sql("insert into eq(asd1) values(asd2)") T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it adds no fields or values T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is that T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furia Tech: have you defined the eq table corectly? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furia Tech: have you created the eq table at all? :) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I thought it's auto T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I add a table in it T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have it opened with some viewer but I wanna do it from cmud T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furia Tech: I have no idea how sql works from the scripts, but after creating a SQL database there are no tables (user tables) in it. you can use the "create table" sql statement T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if its sqlite, you can google sql sqlite and see the proper syntax for creating/altering tables and inserting rows T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I did that but it's different than cmud T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use sqlite manager (a firefox plugin) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: something is wrong it's not working, I have fields in the other one it's not adding anything T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's either different for cmud or I'm not doing something else right T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I do #call %sql(test1, "insert into eq (asd1) values (asd2)") T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it says missing db T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: however the db is there T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm wanting to run mush via wine on a remote machine, but i want to be able to visually connect to it, like remote desktop. Is this possible? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: on a linux machine.. i forgot to add T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: vnc T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, use freenx or vnc T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool.. is there a good linux distro to use.. or will Ubuntu ,Fedora or Gentoo do? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trez, did you open the db? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I think #sqldb test1 opens it T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the help file says I must use post method T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I can't find the syntax T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, i can't remember how i did it and my cmud trial period expired :p T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: according to everyone + forums it's how it should be, but I'm missing something I think :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tried specifying the exact path to your db? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes then it says no such db T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: unknown databse filename T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also tried surrounding with ' and " T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have to go to gym will be back later on T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you specify the extension? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: still doesn't work tho T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it finds it T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: because if I put there asdr3df T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it says unknown db filename T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I guess my syntax is wrong T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try creating the sqlite table? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod I did after that T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: field too T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: going to gym T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably weird cmud scripting terms :p T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there used to be a com object thing for sqlite, it worked for me in zmud, don't remember if i continued using it in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: anyone familiar with eclipse know if there's a way to get a list of current projects that exist when it boots, or a quick way to jump there? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: oo. got it. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: might just be something that slipped through the crackes T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: do I need to have cmud pro to use the sql ? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if it's a sqlite db , no T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: actually you mean the integrated sql.. i dunno.. sorry to mis-read T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't know wtf the problem is, it's refusing to work T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you have a local sql database, no, you don't need to have pro. If you're trying to connect to an external database (such as iwuvaard), then yes, you'll need pro.l T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't search can't insert, it's like not opened at all T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no msgs whatsoever T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the table is here, won't be connecting T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you cna't find any working examples? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lot of examples but it outputs nothing T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: talked to zugg and used his example too T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your issue isn't the bug zugg thought it was? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the bug is forcing me to use sqlite T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: because the built-in dbs can't be searched T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which makes them pointless, and it can be months before it's patched T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I am actually using them still but it's slow as hell T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's wrong with sqlite? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not sure, has no debug or error message T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not adding anything to the db T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats the show command for bast's event window? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats the show command for bast's event window? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can someone guide me through setting up duckbat's gmcp program? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i can T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i figured it out a day or 2 ago T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: aren't you using CMud, Myrk? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i was wondering that one too Myrkul T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and it does other things dokkar T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is there a list? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: of what? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: of what it does T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: where's the note with the link to it? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: tech note list duckbat T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: make that 'note from duckbat' T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anyone test duckbat's proxy with CMud? Seems like perhaps it might/could interfere with CMud's GMCP support T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: #alias {*} {*} #trigger {*} {*} in mush client what do these aliases do???? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nothing T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That would be like having a trigger on everything, and then resending that to the mud. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Good way to get into an infinite loop. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no... it would send * to the mud :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Eh, i guess that's true T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: imms would get pissed really fast :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone using duckbat's program from two computers within a network? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i set my cmud to connect to localhost, port 12345...the program is open... T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but it doesn't connect :( T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, and i set up the router to forward port 12345 to this machine, s T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oops, stupid numpad :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyway...what am i doing wrong? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no one? :( T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I didn't even realize his program would work across networks...or what it does besides generally dealing with equipment. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: we're talking about his gmcp one, not his equip one T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: different program :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it enables gmcp on any client and allows you to log into your char from multiple locations at the same time T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so you can telnet at work and have access to all your alias/trigger/etc T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: btw, can't connect to localhost port 12345 in telnet either T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: off hand, does anyone know how to change the background texture used in the main mushclient window? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: scratch that, it would be the background texture for the world window T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: look for aardbg files in ..\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\images T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I believe it's 13 T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oh, sorry, misread T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: image will be in images... not sure what file name T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: yeah. i had just updated to r1062, and the one being displayed is bg1, not aardbg13, for some reason T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: 13 is for the main window T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: it was. right now, my main window is tiling bg1 T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: so is mine, maybe I'll change it to lush grass :) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: with kittens T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I changed mine to this: http://www.cs.nyu.edu/~roweis/images/optical-illusion-wheels-circles-rotating.png T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: it's a trap, he's trying to hypnotise! T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardbg13 is the background of main output. bg1 is the background that goes behind everything. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you see something wrong with the background images, please report the problems T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but seeing bg1 in the world window is not a bug. it has always been bg1. I just brightened it up a bit because people didn't now it was a texture T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: didn't know T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cheezburger, you're an idiot. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: lol.. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: #alias {*} {*} #trigger {*} {*} --> https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/CommandLineAliasesAndTriggers T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read up T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: catching up? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wish I could be around all the time to prevent people saying foolish things T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: try to be civil T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's hard sometimes T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, what he said what true... T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: was true, rather T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: like responding to stuff that happened hours ago? :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #alias {*} {*} and #trigger {*} {*} would essentially do nothing T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no they don't do nothing T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, the alias does nothing T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the trigger sends * to the mud every time a line is received, so i guess that's not nothing, but still useless T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're wrong T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok, what would it do then? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: That's for TT++, right? If so, then I think alias and trigger matching is based on regular expressions, so unless I'm wrong, those two lines will match on anything. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's for mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you're all a bunch of fools. go read the website I posted T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: * isn't anything in regex, that's .* T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wouldn't that be a blob match? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Oh, I saw the #alias and #trigger stuff and thought it was for tt++ or something T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: fiendish, the website is irrelevant T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #alias {*} {*} does absolutely nothing T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hey fiendish the comm windows appears not to scrolll when the pointer is over a hyperlink T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: obviously you're supposed to put something else there, in place of the *s, but that's not what he asked T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Myrkul, don't be a fool. he was asking about the two preloaded aliases with patterns "#alias {*} {*}" and "#trigger {*} {*}" T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: aah T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you'd actually read the question he posted that would be clear T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Funny tech convo is funny :-) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i did read the question he posted T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "what do these aliases do?" T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, well i figured by these aliases, he meant this alias and this trigger T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: quit talking, there's double to be done. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you figured wrongly in this case T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm idling anyway T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: leveling is for suckers :) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, i realize that now, but who cares, i'm not the one who answered the question anyway T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you've been a sucker how many times now Fiendish? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I know, which is why I said cheezburger is an idiot instead of myrkul is an idiot. :} T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 4083 T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Mieko: I'm in recovery. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: ah, good luck :) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Too bad we didn't know about those aliases when he asked, huh? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, but of course, we're not allowed to answer questions when we don't know the answer anyway T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You forget, oh godly one, we don't measure up to your unencompassable wisdom, so tend to screw up sometimes. Forgive us, Your Divinity T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: helpers are supposed to like read documentation and stuff T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, don't get me started about documentation here now T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: We didn't have that link at the time, genius. We aren't supposed to go through every documentation on someone's pet project. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'm so glad I'm not a helper, I couldn't live up to the standard of reading all the help files. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i've been ranting on zugg's forums all evening about how his documentation sucks :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I couldn't give a flying, flaming rat's ass about what documentation you put up on your client. I'm not reading up on your client, because it sucks, and i'm not forget to know every little in and out that you do. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Then you shouldn't be answering questions about said client. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: safe bet. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Now now kids T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Response ninja'd - MUSHclient is the bomb! T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: etzli: according to fiendish, no one but him should be answering questions about it :P T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: /popcorn T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It was a question, simply worded, that we interpreted as what was said, and failed to realize the fact that there was a preloaded alternative to the answer. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Anyone got odds on this fight? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko looks more confused. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not if the answer is correct ?:-|? The preload aliases are right there in the alias menu, and are coded so it's obvious what they do... T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not yet, Flach, the script is still calculating. Should be ready in a few minutes. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Not to us who don't use the client. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Sweet T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So we answered what he asked, not what he meant. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you don't use the client, you really have no business answering questions about it. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: When odds are out, is there an option for "Argument retarded, both participants suck"? T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or if you aren't sure, state so in your statement. T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exactly - or append an 'I might be wrong, as I don't use MUSH, but...' T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use the client, but do know about those aliases & would have answered correctly if I were at the keys :-) T3/r3/2011-06-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: well, maybe he didn't know the client, but it wasn't his so he didn't care? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: anyone know the color code for a bright blue, bl is to dark for me. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf color code? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Uh, that'd be @B? :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: ingame? help colorset T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nod, or is there a helpfile or syntax I can check out. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: help colors T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks all T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You can use xterm too, if your client supports it. That way, you can get a few shades of blue. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Got to say Fiendish.... thanks for having Underdark already mapped :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thank lasher for the default map T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ahh nice, use to hate that area... now its np ^^ T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: complete with unmapped exits to clan mazes! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hey fiendish, the comm windows appears not to mouse wheel scroll when the pointer is over a hyperlink T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh? hmm T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is that bad? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess it could be a problem T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dont know, i just thought id let you know T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: luckily it's trivial to fix T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs at the sight of Leg and an Armenia. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: My mush says MORE in the status thing down below and there is no more :| T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you sure? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: press Ctrl+End T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Its still tuning me MORE T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I think it wants another bite of my cupcake T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: another T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: It would have been easier to ignore it if it wasn't black T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try a reboot? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not aware of any way to make the MORE message persist after scrolling all the way down T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: can you take a screenshot of it? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Done that.. It just comes and goes as it pleases... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If a plugin at the last line, would that do it? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ate* T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hard to say T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's an interesting question, though. one sec while I test that theory T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Yay! It went away.. and I didn't even do anything T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: On that note, any chance of attaching a scroll bar to the main output window? Toggleable, to avoid annoying people who don't want it... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: now it wont show that there IS more when there's more O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've decided against doing that because it would create two scroll bars T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in order for moving the scroll bar to be viable, I'd need a way to hide the main one T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In related news, I discovered the first one :-P ignore my previous q... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have a guide page about it T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#Where_is_the_main_output_scroll_bar?_I_can%27t_find_it! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: what number is the newest version of mush O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: 4.78? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush, or aardmush? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the latest snapshot of the aardwolf mushclient package is r1062 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it uses mushclient 4.75 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Versions T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sigh no more ladies, sigh no more. But be ye bright and bonny. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I prefer "Stop being sad, and be awesome instead" - I feel it's a good modern translation :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: "The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself." (Benjamin Franklin) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods quietly to himself. What a wacko. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: And your translation of 'Hey, nonny, nonny!'? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ummm. the youtube Allan! Allan! Allan! video? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Is it really in my best interest to download that update T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which update? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the latest aardwolf mushclient package? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: that new mush thingy T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Oh yes, it is very nice. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in what senses would it not be in you best interest? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are the reasons for not wanting to do it? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Unless it's in beta, updates are generally good things to do... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: last time I got a new mushy most of my plugins went AWOL T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's always in beta T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli glares around him. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I try not to break too much :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I fix problems quickly T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Armenia, that's why you back up your plugins. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: They were probably in bad company, then. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia groans loudly. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There's a step-by-step instructions page on the aard site T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I know. I wrote it down O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why write it down? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you rename the old mushclient folder something like 'oldmush' and then have the new one 'mush', you can transfer the plugins that way T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia frowns sadly, looks around and goes 'meh..' T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish comforts Leg and an Armenia. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Okay.. this time i WONT delete my old mush before trying out the new one T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: My computer only has 512 mb ram O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish whistles appreciatively. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (X).(X) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I would say you should get more T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Bah! My first puter only had 64k T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Armenia, what OS do you use? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia snorts. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: These computers are so old I dont think they even make ram for them anymore T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: windows xp O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'd probably benefit from having more ram, but you'd also be spending money on a very old computer T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you could probably get a better computer for under a thousand :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I have a six and a half year old Dell Dimension 8300 upstairs. I used to use it until it started slowing down. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Heh T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Got a new computer in April of 2010 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can get 2gb laptops down under for ~$300 au T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a thousand dollars can be a lot of money to people T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 500 even i would guess :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Less for desktop T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Yeah.. thats like 10 000 rands T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Ten of mine are one of yours T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: less than 10 I think T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that's not important T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm not in america though T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I hope by the time I have to get another computer, SSDs will be a lot cheaper and a lot larger capacity. I'd love to get a nice Win7 desktop with an SSD boot drive and probably a 1-2 TB hard drive for data. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Okay.. i think its like 7 of mine is one of yours T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i assumed you were, i guess computer prices would vary based on where you are T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have a 120GB ssd in my laptop T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it notably faster? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I dont even know what ssd is! ... is that the same as ssdd? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes it is T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Solid-state drive T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: oh yeah.. that clears it up. I know EXACTLY what it is now >.> T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not just faster. it means I can throw my computer around more T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: No moving parts. Basically. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Very very basically T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A faster type of hard drive than a 'disc' type T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, do they actually fail often? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, to get back on the subject T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: We had a subject? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: The thing I'm excited about is not having to worry about drives failing as much. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hard disk failure always worried me T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I'm pretty sure I almost had an 750GB external drive fail on me. Luckily, I was able to get all of the data off of it. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Armenia, you are not the only person using an older version of the aardwolf package still. So you will probably not die from not upgrading. But I think a lot of new features and bug fixes have been added. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ssd's actually seem to have high failure rates because of firmware problems these days T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I think most of the time when one fails your data is still safe T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Hmm, I've heard that the failure rates are actually quite low these days T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i've taken to putting important stuff in cloud services anyway T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I'll just bite the bullet then T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it'd suck to have something fail when an assignment is due next day T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't keep anything important stored locally T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: The only thing that I can think of that might make an SSD fail quickly is if the OS that is using it isn't aware of the new considerations for SSDs, like no defragging required T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: code goes into a remote repository, images go on flickr T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Defragging an SSD is a sure way of shortening its lifespan T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think Mac OS X might still not support TRIM T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that could be wrong T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Why. would. you. EVER. defrag. an SSD. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: SSDs have a high failure rate because it is a new technology, compared to HDDs T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think that's true T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I don't know, but I'm sure some people have done it, not knowing that it's actually bad to do that now. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: The MORe thingy is back O.o maybe the update will make it go away T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: yah, i'm sure your right T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan convulses as he shudders in disgust. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: According to the experts I have spoken to, it is true. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: SSDs have a high failure rate because firmware writers are doing really complicated things to work around the inherent fragility of crappy chips that are going into consumer level drives T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and really complicated things tend to have bugs T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Although my experience is with industrial applications, not consumer stuff. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that's not because it's new. ultimately it's because of the crappy chips T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you are really annoyed by the MORE, a dirty workaround is to disable status bar from showing, if you have nothing important there T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Quality HDDs are actually way better than SSDs (and much better than consumer grade HDDs) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: are there hdds that match the speed of ssd? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: SLC drives as far as I know never fail. only the MLC ones do T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Kirua, no T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There are good hdds that match crappy ssds... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: hmmm... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how much speed improvement you get will probably depend on the type of reading and writing you do T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: SSDs are faster for random access, but regular HDDs are faster or equally fast for bulk reads T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: hmmmmm...... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: newer SSDs also do on the fly compression these days, so you actually read and write less data which sends throughput through the roof T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You mean compression in an asic or fpga or something? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but doesn't help on uncompressible data like compressed video T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i've updated the firmware in my ssd several times since buying it. that's not something I'd normally even think about with a regular HDD T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've never updated the firmware of any HDD ever. Should I? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably not T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If I have problems with a HDD, I usually just stop using it or use it for junk storage. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: So... Why black? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why black what? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: because it's the new black T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Why is mush.. black T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what part? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I mean. I like the grey rockish background... but all the miniwindows are .. black :| T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because that makes the most sense for displaying ansi colors T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Also.. I think the MORE thingy is working again. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: better for the eyes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: I'd guess it's "the way it's always been" more then anything else, terminals were green on black back in the days! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I just love playing jigsaw with my miniwindows O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Li'l Bunny Zhalt Tech: Then later on, DOS with grey on black :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's difficult to get good color contrast with any other background T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: WHY is 7 so tiny and 8 just a little too big O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have very strange questions T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Fonts >.> T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I'm in a strange mood today. I think its those cupcakes I had for breakfast. they tasted funky T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It is because 7 is a divisor of 42. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I just... 8 is just a teensy bit too big.. and I can't make it 7.5 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your screen must be very low resolution if 8 is too big T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I dont know what that means T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dots per inch T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you must have low DPI if 8 is so big T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: 1280 by 1024? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: DPI? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dots per inch T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: wow, that's dense :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or ppi, pixels per inch T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: depends on screen size too :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 1280x1024 on how many inches? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Oh.. Well maybe I'll get used to 7 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: uhm.. how do I even mesure that? With my ruler? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: my ruler is in cm's T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: measure the diagonal length of your screen T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so divide by 2.54 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though most screens usually advertise how big they are T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: mine doesn't.. I mesured roughly.. 32.5 cm T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: horizontally O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: and then about 25 cm verticalle O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So measure vertically, square both, add 'em, take the square root, then divide by 2.54... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I dont like math :| T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...about 16" T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: is that good or bad? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 16" tall? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: diagonal T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, about 16" screen. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: 15.6 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 1280x1024 on a 15" screen is a bit small T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If it's a laptop, then yeah, most likely T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli has a 17" on a laptop. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my 15" laptop is like 1440x1050 or something T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Its a desktop >.> one of those fat screens with the big ass T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well 1440 should go with 1080 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I can soom out my screen! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: eh.. zoom T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: crt? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: With those buttons on the front of the screen :| T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Armenia: What OS are you running? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Redryn: Sounds like, yeah T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: windows xp.. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Isn't there a DPI setting in XP under Display? I forget. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with disastrous results T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: 1400 x 900 is common, 1600 x 945, 1920 x 1080 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: 1400 x 1280 is a bit odd, if you ask me. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Uhm.. no? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Depends on your aspect ratio, Anaristos... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Mine's 1366x768. :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: most laptops is 16:9 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Yeah, theres a thingy that says normal 96 dpi and large 120 dpi and a custom option T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: 16:9 is letterbox T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Which is yours set on, Armenia? :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: teh one that says 96 dpi T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: 96 dpi is what windows uses for default spacing. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: What other font has like.. that even spacing thing? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Mono spacing? Several. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Fixedsys, Bitstream Mono... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use Dina in the miniwindows T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and Courier in main output T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: For some reason, I prefer Bitstream. :\ T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I use lucida console in miniwindows T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I don't have bitstream T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You have to download it. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Nah.. Dina size 5 is what I was looking for T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think there is dina size 5 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: well I made it five and its the right size now O.o T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia looks around and whistles innocently. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I think I'll stop playing around now and do some work T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I actually like Dina... hmmm. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I use Dina for code, it's nice. There is also a Dina TFF T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I use Dina for mud numeric displays, the digits are very sharp. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Its sexy T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dina ttf, eh? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: watch your cupcakes... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: would you mind emailing me that font anaristos? I'd like to check it out T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: http://www.geenat.com/?p=66 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You can get it there. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you can download the true font here: http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Jibz/Dina/ T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: cmud doesn't like TTF fonts, but maybe MUSHclient does. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: CMUD likes ttf fonts just fine, if you use the right size. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It seems the odd sizes cause the problems. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the ttf dina doesn't work properly in wine. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, it looked weird to me :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: have you checked out Miriam Fixed? It's also nice. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm just worried that weird ttf fonts won't work properly in wine. I don't want to break cross platform compatibility T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: neat idea though T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: UGh. MORE is back T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli peers intently at Leg and an Armenia. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Doesn't MORE only show up when you're scrolling through your scrollback buffer? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I haven't seen MORE in years T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: O.o It left T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: really? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I remember when Aylor came in, I didn't have pass door yet, and that stupid door north used to catch me all the time :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamblur Tech: Is there a way to change the default background color in mushclient? I can only change the text colors T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in this example row = %sql(sessions, "SELECT * FROM chardb") T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what is 'sessions' ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The sql database that's open. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or rather, the sql database you're accessing. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the example then says #WHILE (!ow.Eof()) {#SHOW ow.Item("12");#CALL ow.Next} where can I put the field name in that T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's @row T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and what if there are other fields T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The #WHILE bit is just returning every row that matched your sql query. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh so 12 is the field ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmm... it would probably be a numerical equivalent of the field, though I'm not sure. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: not sure what 12 is, it's not 12 in the example but Title T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's Title T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I don't know what is in his db that he's providing example for T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You have access to the Sessions database. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so in the row example, how can I put expressions T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh let me check T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Might run the example, and open the database up in sql viewer to see what it corresponds to. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh ye it was in the other folder T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right, Title is field T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so basically hsi row example with * would search for all ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then he outputs the Title field only T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's not searching, but returning the results. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how are there results of there is no seach T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Are you talking about the row = %sql bit? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Oh, yeah. Select * from * T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want mine to search for item level, eq db T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so trying to figure out which part is related to that :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I'm not sure how to put the expressions there T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: instead of the * T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Oh, SELECT * from eq WHERE level=1 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: select (what) from (tablename) where (filterstuff) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Redryn. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: For each additional filter, you'd add an AND T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So like Level=1 AND weight<5 AND Worth>1000, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ooo nice T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: All this technical stuff if scaring me T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: SQL isn't a strong point of mine, but there is plenty of documentation out on SQL. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: row is a variable that has com object in it, is that the right way to go ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well stuff is different for cmud T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not SQL stuff, though. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the way of searching sql should be standard T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just the way you execute the query and the manner the results are returned could differ T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's samish but would be beneficial when I know the basics, before that with no error messages it's superchaotic T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the perfect person to answer T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What do you expect from Leg and an Armenia - she has to deal with you crazy surface people :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: hi guys.. can somebody please answer a simple script question? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: anybody? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you haven't asked a question to answer... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: sorry. :) I just wanted to even know if somebody is here. :D T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: help online T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask if you can ask, or ask if someone can help...nobody will generally respond to that, because they're volunteering for something just by answering that they can help T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: okey so... I'm sure that's a simple one I'm just unable to figure it out... I'm trying to catch a wildcard in a Trigger. but %1 is not working. It says it's a syntax error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: okey, okey, sorry:P shees :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what program, and what trigger matching type? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so when I do values ("@var1","@var2","@var3") T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1 is for the results part, not for the trigger part (zugg is just stupid and nonstandard for allowing it) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it says there's syntax error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: program is Lua. Type is 'Sorry *' T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the program isn't lua...what did you double-click to run? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is that because the rest of the vars are in a new line T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or what's going on T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: ohh.. I'm just testing it by pulling the trigger and I added the script in a scirpt file and bind it to the trigger.... or I1m not sure what you are askin Abelinc, sorry :$ T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what actual program are you running...what's in your taskbar? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: mmm.. you mean the mush client? :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Lol it's like he is asking for help with something but he doesn't say what the something is T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thank you T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: for example, i am rnuning mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: soooooorrryyyyyy Ahhh okey.. because I was stupidly assuming that you guys are suing the Aardwolf client too. SORRY! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the trigger part, if you're NOT checking the "regular expression" checkbox, you want *...if you ARE checking it, use parenthesis around something like .* T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people use whatever client they like...a dozen different ones connected at any given time T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: okey okey.. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: ok , so yes. regular is on. Trigger is: 'Sorry *'. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: so it should be 'Sorry .*' ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then in the send part, you'd use %1 for the first * or parenths, %2 for the second, etc T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: type it as sorry * then click convert to regular expression T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you really should never click convert to regular expression T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: yeah I wouldn1t do that... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to do so T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: also, that never really generates a good regex T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either write in regex or write in globs T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're writing in regex, then you use regex wildcards for variable stuff, and use parenths for captured spots T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: ok so.. basicaly this: Note ("Your name aftre sorry is: " .. %1 ) - should work on a trigger like: 'Sorry .*' T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: so why is convert to regexp so bad? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because there's no reason for it...it doesn't help efficiency, it doesn't make the pattern more flexible, it doesn't help at all and can write bad code T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to put parenths around the .* T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that, it would match "Hi my name is John. Sorry I missed you today"...and it would note Your name after sorry is: I missed you today T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but aren't you required to be regexp if you want to convert aliases into a script? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regexp is never required, plenty of scripts and plugins don't use them T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: Abelinc: so that's what the client tells me: [string "Script file"]:21: unexpected symbol near '%' T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regexp is more powerful in what patterns it can make...but if you made the pattern as a glob and just converted, it's only converting the stuff that glob can already do, so it's not being more powerful T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why is this a file? you just type it into the giant box in the trigger definition T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: Yes normally. but I have set up a file for that. Because I1m editing in notepad++. That should be a problem. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're calling a file, you'd probably have to call the file with the %1 so that it's passed to the file as an argument T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: if i put it into that text box. It will just say the same without the file. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: yes. With %0 actually T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: If i put %1 into the editing area it says compile error. Sooooooo odd. It seems almos like trigger doesn't like %X whatsoever. Becaseu In Alias it works fine. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: %1 has to be surrounded by double quotes if you're using send to script T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Note ("Your name aftre sorry is: " .. "%1" ) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: THAT'S IT!!!!!! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's the difference...for sending to world you'd just use the bare %1 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or alternatively, just Note ("Your name aftre sorry is: %1" ) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: Ahhh yes!! Damnnnnn me! :))) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: yeah because I was thinking that since it's a variable... your know. :) I didn't though that it automatically uses it's value T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: i should have since perl is doing the same actually. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: nice one :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, named mush variables don't use the "" T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: thanks guys very much! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: so when I'm passing it on to a file.. the parameter is *trigger1. how do i get the string out of there? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: so when I'm passing it on to a file.. the parameter is *trigger1. how do i get the string out of there? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: ahhhh sorry!! doublepost T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're calling a function in a script file? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: yes. indeed. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The third argument of the function is the wildcards. Most people name their function something like foo(name, line, wildcards). Then wildcards[1] is your first wildcard, wildcards[2] is your second one, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you know that you can be using notepad++ to edit stuff without using a lua file, right? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of mush's stuff is text T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: Yeah. It could be a simple txt file too. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you name your wildcards (using regex), you can also do wilcards["blah"] if you named a wildcard blah. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: hmmm interesting T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: i thinkg the problem is that my tutorial is really outdated. It's like 2005... .:S I'm in need in a more recent one. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: it didn't even explain what name, adn line are. and why. and where they comefrom etc,etc T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: ofc i now know that name is script line is calling line T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can actually use any name you want in place of "name", "line", and "wildcards", but almost everyone names them that T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since that's what they are T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: yeah since they are parametes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: i just didn't knew there purpose. :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: and the more odd thing is... If I'm writing in the edit box : %0 to pass the params it says syntax error. If I1m ommitting it the contenct is still passed but without syntax error. :D T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: interesting stuff that is. :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarlso Tech: thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's the cmud function to display those xterm colors T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez, SQL doesn't care about newlines or white space, but dunno how cmud parses it before it gets to sending the sql command T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not sure what you're referring to T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno that it's anything you have to turn on...type "color 256"...do you see shades on the left & old colors on the right? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes I mean I wanted to use it within cmud T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like %ansi T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: @x<1-256> you mean? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that won't get recognized by cmud T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: for example: type "echo @x200Hi trez" T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this for the mud dude T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want it in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #show [31masdasdasd T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #show %ansi(red)asdasdasd T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: cmud probably supports HTML colors. For example, #FFFFFF is white T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: however ansi supports those 16 colors T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, mxp allows html colors T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not sure how to use that T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hello T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you just trying to display something on your screen, or send those colors to the mud? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I use some show command and I wanted color in it T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so it's not sending it to the mud T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In MUSH, you can do ColourNote("#11cc33", "", "Hello World) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure about cmud T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the color table that I see on aard is for aard only? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try rgb() T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud won't recognize those numbers ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Should if you use rgb() like abelinc said T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I tried it again but it's not working T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: just do %ansi(x104) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Try: rgb(10, 30, 90) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: for xterm colors T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thanks linoge :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh yah yah :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that works nicely T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much easier than having to go to an ansi-to-rgb table T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you had had to do it, there's a link in help xterm that gives the rgb values for the xterm numbers T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and from the start of this when you didn't know what I was talking about for the SQL ignoring newlines & whitespace, around 8am you were asking about a VALUES (@var1,@var2,@var3) syntax error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you said that there were more values on the next line T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it doesn't recognize @ so I put " " around the vars T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but when it gets too long I guess it's an issue for sql T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well anyways I put them all in one variable T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so the %sql() line was on one line in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: were the values a second row to add, or were they more values in the same row? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it works nice now T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: same row T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for same row, you'd have them within the same parenths T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they are :P it's the same line that works, I just paste it in cmud and I guess when it tries to separate it to display it, it no longer works for sql T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not sure what happens.. but I put all those @vars from balues in a var T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and then it was values ("@sqlvar") T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud's script window just breaks it in more lines, I think that's the issue T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but solved now T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: now I added colors to it and it's time to announce I'm a boss I think T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyone know if there's a way to browse the cmud script repository on the web rather than inside cmud? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I prevent sql from an endless loop T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I don't specify a %1 and it's needed for a WHERE expression T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sql shouldn't be looping T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't specify a where, then it should result in everything T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it outputs lines until I terminated the cmud process :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, since you have the keyword where without an expression, it should error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: maybe your cmud call is looping? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's not looping, it's just a big result set T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it outputs blank lines T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod maybe call is looping T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not sure how to script that T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what are you trying to do? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: because I forgot the syntax or typo it'd free cmud and is bad :( T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme paste T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put logic into your statement such that if argument is missing, say to the player syntax T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod I put 4 ifs but it looks clumsy T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and now I'm scared to test it T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: input sanitation may look clumsy but it's not :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask bobby tables T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: row=%sql(eqdb, "SELECT * FROM eq WHERE level>"%1" AND level<"%2" AND slot="%3"") T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (http://xkcd.com/327/ for those that don't know bobby tables) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so the last if line for example is #if (%1!=%null & %2!=%null & %3!=%null) {row=%sql(eqdb, "SELECT * FROM eq WHERE level>"%1" AND level<"%2" AND slot="%3"")} T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: however it doesn't involve the #call T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: as far as the sql goes, it looks fine T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I fear it might loop again T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well the call is #WHILE (!ow.Eof()) {#SHOW ~[ow.Item(level)~] etc T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, those double-quotes shouldn't work :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and ends in #CALL ow.Next T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: your using row.eof and then setting row to a new a query? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't work without the quotes :( T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the quotes as written should break cmud (even before sql) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should amount to row=%sql(eqdb, "SELECT * FROM eq WHERE level>" T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since the " just after where level> should end your statement without being escaped T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well the quotes work, without quotes it outputs syntax error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: since it doesn't recognize the or something T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the %1 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try using single quotes within the statement, and enclose the statement in double quotes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it doesn't cause the loop :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just to clarify, have you tried just running the select to see if you actually get rows back? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Zugg told me to put quotes around the crap that isn't sql related T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: let me try T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but you have 2 separate definitions of quote characters in use at the same time T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the quotes around the entire statement, and then the quotes within the statement...you'd either need to escape the quotes within the statement (where level>~") or use different quotes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right so it outputs syntax error if arguments aren't set T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not sure what to do :( T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what is causing this loop T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can try changing the quotes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I change to single quotes it doesn't output anything, nothing gets assigned to row T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: around your vars? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: around '%1' T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: after the WHERE T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: the double quotes around those are fine, its just weird that you wrap your entire sql statement in double quotes as well T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf shrugs helplessly. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I thought it's the right way T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so if you do just SELECT * FROM eq, do you get rows back? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I change to single quotes, it outputs error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if %1 and %2 are there, it stores stuff T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if one of them is not, %2 obviously or both, then it gives me syntax error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and then, my alias starts the eof loop T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which I think hangs because row has nothing T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in it T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should get syntax error without all 3 args T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes I do :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it still carries the call and outputs no error T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe there's error but it get's spammed out I don't know T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: let me try just the call without setting row T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a while, not a call T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, you're using this in a while? well that'd explain the looping T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whole purpose of while is looping T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just tried it T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing you're using a !@row.Eof() for the while? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #WHILE (!ow.Eof()) {#SHOW ;#CALL ow.Next} T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #WHILE (!@row.Eof()) {#SHOW ;#CALL @row.Next} T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that was the only example provided in the help file T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, and it was only looping when your sql failed, right? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when row is not set T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Testing T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can put an if check infront, checking if @row=%null T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that makes sense...in order to use that while, you've got to uber-sanitize to make sure that sql is going to have results, since it's relying on positive results T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: let me try with check for row empty then T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah works this way then T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost there :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: its painful how you have to work with databases with cmud :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but aard's about to have an expert at it to replace the long lost ozzy :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snuggle him. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: holy crap, just realized ozzy has been gone for almost a year T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I hope he's okay he was pretty ill at some point T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: if I send something to the MUD from a script... How can I get the response from the sent action, like: Send ("look"). - What was the output of look? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on the output T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your client has no way of knowing what MUD output is the direct result of its command T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can't go by "the text that is sent just afterward"...someone could've said something on a channel at the same time T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: read 'help tags' - there are some that will assist with parsing look output... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you match the pattern that you're looking for...and in the case of doing look, there are a ton of tags to make parsing nice T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: true. I just thought that there's a way.. But then the trigger would mean I have to quit that function I'm working in when I'm sending the command, right? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: so I would go over to another script because the trigger is a seperate entity.. Or I can bind them together with global values? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: The function you were running when you send the command isn't going to wait around for the output of the command.. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Rather, it shouldn't. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: ahha aha I see T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not another script...plugins are all one script with many triggers, commands, functions T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but "send look" is an atom of its own within the script, and doesn't need to wait around T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is it that you're trying to write? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: Okay so if I would write a "plugin" that say.. looks for a fontain and then drinks. :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to do a look or a plugin or anything for that T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fountains don't move T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: The problem is that you wouldn't know what the fountain looked like... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: That's just an example. :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't give exampole T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I asked WHAT you're trying to do T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: give the actual thing T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: okay okay shees :D T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your example is solved by an alias of "recallrun to fountaindrink"...nothing more needed T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: and still haven't said :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: So. I'm not trying to write a bot. I just begun putting together a script that kills everything in a room. :) I'm moving my character and doing the exploring. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: start by reading help policies T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't use look to kill stuff in a room because what you see in the room doesn't have to be the words used to kill it, and it may not be killable T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: Mieko. I know that's illegal. :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but a script that kills is a bot by definition T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...reading help policies is illegal? Or you already arrived at the conclusion that what you want to do is illegal? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you know it's illegal, then you shouldn't have started with "I'm not trying to write a bot" T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: No I mean bots are illegal. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: I just like the challenge. I wouldn't use it. But after writing that. I can automate other tasks, that aren't illegal. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko laughs. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll be waiting for the nuke notice T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're truly an idiot T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: Now why would I be? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: because I like the challenge? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: So, how would you test it without using it? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: own server T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you expect us to believe that you're gonna write it and never use it? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: private one T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, your own server doesn't behave like aard T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: Yes. I expect to. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: how do i get a private aard server? :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: not Aard server T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: a mud server is not a big of a deal to put together you know if it's not a complex one. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's the thing, though - you're gonna be using room tags, etc., that aren't a part of any other MUD, especially not generic Diku... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, there's nothing to even put together...you just download and run T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it's not a complex one, it's not aardwolf, and your bot will likely behave differently here... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: I don't care about that. :) Since I'm not gonna use it. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Perhaps you'd be better off just writing something that you *will* use... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then why not go write it for another mud that allows botting, or something? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: writing code that's never gonna be used just seems like a waste of time to me... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: and the temptation to 'just try it, see if it really works' will be huge...the dark side is very seductive *grin* T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: I'm doing it for the challenge and learning Lua and the working of aard. After that I can move on to other things. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I just wish they'd implement pre-emptive nukes here :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: that's what I came up with right now to practice with. It could have been shopping too. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't learn the working of aard by testing on not-aard... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so as much as you want to proclaim why you're doing it...you're full of crap T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So... You make something useless, that NO-ONE on here will ever help you with... to learn to make things you will use????????? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: indeed. :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why not just learn to make things you will use by making things you will use? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: Abelinc. I knew that you aren't a peoples person. Thanks for strengthening that in me. :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my pleasure, I'll be sure to remind you often :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: Thanks very much. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Honestly, it might be best if he writes a bot - he'd learn that nuking isn't an idle threat, and the further he gets before he's caught means the more time he's wasted... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's like a drink-mixer in Prohibition learning to make beer, so they can brew awesome tea :-S Boggles the mind, it does T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: btw. Battle augmentation is not illegal. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: also killing helpers. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Define 'augmentation'... I believe what you take it to mean - is T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that depends on how you define battle augmentation :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Killing things without actually typing "kill "? Especially on look output, which happens whenever you move? Definitely illegal. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: well T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, augmentation of a battle that you started is legal...problem is that you didn't start the battle T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: I mean by that a helper that watches over your battle. Like: Your shield ran out, it casts it, you are entangled it frees you you are poisond, you burn etc. Things you perhaps miss or aren't fast enough to react. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: Abe.. I did. I move in the room, and type kill It's not like you think that I move around and kill automatically. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't say who to kill T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: I1m right there. I doing things. I'm saying kill. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Actually, that's exactly what you were describing. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That was what you described... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you being there doesn't matter T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: killall not just go in a room and kill mindlesly. Just initiate a kill after each battle is done. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you're not going to change him, are you just talking to him at this point for amusement? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Somewhat :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Seeing just how deep a hole he can dig for himself, really - I can't imagine the imms won't check back on him regularly... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: go ahead an check. It's not illegal to initiate a command while you are there and doing the killing. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: I didn't say the char uses any skills or magix T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: i didn't say it heals himself T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: I didn't say it rests and moves on. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: that's something you thought up. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Straight from the help - Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without any direct interaction from you, is illegal. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: yeah that's a trigger then recasting your shield after it faded. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: and that's not illegal T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what stinks about your whole argument was your previous claim that you'll never use it T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: If I spam you with 10 death messages and you attempt to 'kill' 10 times in a row responding to those messages, you're getting nuked. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: that overrules what any helps say. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: it obviously wouldn't do that. since the kill wouldn't be scripted that way. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now that you know the admins will do it, you mean T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: same with combat triggers. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: ahhh... let's just move on and you can laugh later when I'm banned. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Locustus Tech: cheers. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it's actually quite a common 'bot test' to continually heal a mob and watch someone endlessly quaff and cast heal. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I think the record is about 40 minutes. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: rofl T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: New form of poker night :-) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Now I know why that damn mob took forever to die! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: it wasn't you. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: you exist. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Lasher was healing it :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: that's how you know it wasn't you. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: unless it was a different character :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: anyway, that's my 20 seconds in this window for this hour, back to work... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Thanks, Lasher..:-P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can you endlessly heal me so we can test if any of the mobs are bots? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nebmaatre chuckles politely. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: does it ever take you 40 minutes to kill a mob? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it feels like 40 minutes when i'm in a GQ T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: it felt like 40 when I was killing that weapon in stormships with only a changing dam-type weapon :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: how do i get the spellup to automatically spell me up? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the built in spellup command? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Is this a trick question? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: spellup T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and ask on question for aard questions T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: no i installed it but it's not working T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. so which plugin are you using? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: bast T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: more info please T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...are you already spelled up? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You want Bast_Spellup T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: I just spelled up now so yes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Have you added your spells...need to use the 'bsp sadd' command to add spells, see bsp help for details T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: bsp sadd does nothing T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i just added all the plugins. Too tired to think now lol T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: maybe you should sleep T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You need to tell it which spells, or 'all' to add them all, like 'bsp sadd all' T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: dont feel like sleeping, feel like enjoying the night by playing aard T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thanks... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linked from the wiki T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: hey there T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle tenses up waiting for a troll... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: is their any way for me to move the windows around or resize it to the original sizes? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: sorry using the mush on aards site T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can drag them around near the top of each window T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i cna't remember the command to reset... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: i see the triangle in the bottom corner but i went from a large screen to a small one.. so now i cant move my main screen to make it smaller T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: i cant see the top of it to move it around T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: is their any other way? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. i've been caught by that too... i suppose there needs to be one in the opposite corner as well T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: reinstalling the main layout also did not work T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: plugin T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there is some reset command that will move windows back tot he start.. look in the help file? otherwise if you're really in a pickle you can try editing the state file T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: witblitz, right-click the taskbar for mush, select move...then you can use arrow keys T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you can get one of the corners onscreen, and from there can shrink the window T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Most of the windows, you can drag anywhere, not just near the top T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: the main one you can only drag at the top T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't they automatically resize when you change the size of the MUSH window? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Otherwise, just try typing resetaard T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't see how you could've lost the top of the miniwindow, though. They're not actual windows, just drawn boxes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: that worked thanx leinei T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: i pluged it in a differant screen... my 42' tv... then i unpluged it.. so the screen reselution changed.. that is how T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so which one of you us "whininguser" who wants to change the background color? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: well i dont know who asked yesterday but i would like to know idk why T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also "resetaard" is not a thing. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it only resets the main output, which seems to be not really what people ask for T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: greenacid: you would like to know "idky why"? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah how to change the background, I see some potential for it and i think it would be cool. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which background do you mean? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are many different backgrounds T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: the one in the main window change from the logo to something else T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's not background color. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And that was gone over yesterday. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah but I was not there T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you want to change the aardwolf logo? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to what? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: another image? a color? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I dont know something custom like an image. Not for everyine just on my version of mush client. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the router T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Who, Winkle? Not Fiendish. That's his normal self. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hey guys, would you help me with something? take a peek in worlds/plugins/images and tell me if you find one called chess1.png T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I don't have one. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Nope, me neither T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bizarro world T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i dont have one either T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when you run to the chessboard, the gmcp mapper background is grey? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Yeah. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, dark grey T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder how that happened. Ok thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I was messing around with storing function pointers in variables and passing them as parameters... it's open up a whole new world of stuff i'm going to try in version 3 of my plugins T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's pretty nice when coupled with anonymous functions as well T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I was wondering if anyone uses this stuff in their plugins.. and what they use it for? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i guess noone... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: is there any way to capture where you last died and stor it in a varibale? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, but not in retrospect T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I was wondering so that I could runto the last area with a alias. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you will want to capture your current room every time gmcp transmits toy room data T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've already got the variables for where you were when you were fighting... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i do?? (I know nothing about GMCP) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: maybe type last to see the mobs you've killed? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok last does not work after you die T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sorry about long response T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does, but unless you killed something it may not be useful T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hmm true is there a way to capture the area that i died in?? i not sure if i askeed before T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Memory recall is a powerful thing. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "owned" will tell the area that you died in T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you can do a gmcp routine to grab the info T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how would i set up the gmcp routine? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: caveat for gmcp, though, is that the room info for the morgue is sent BEFORE the last round of combat T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd need to do an 'if roomnum = morguenum, copy previous roomnum to var' in pseudocode T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: uhhhhhhhhhhh how do i set that up i know NOTHING about GMCP T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: good point abe T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's prolly a lot easier to do in my client than other clients T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what client you use? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not for you...it's a hardcore geek client...no buttons to press, etc }:> T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hmm I give up I just won't do it...for now T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type "owned", have it show you the area your corpse is in, then runto that T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i dont like buttons T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: green - look at the aard gmcp mapper plugin... search of "OnBroadcast" within that search for the word "room" T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: .. if you'r eusing mush T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: sorry i lost my connection can you repeat what you said about the thing with gmcp and tinyfuge T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You could just do a history. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You know, tech -h works wonders. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh i see i still dont like buttons its just a bit easier I am used to linux without X so dont worry about me not used to typing out everything T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: im gonna see what tiny fuge has to offer T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: damn. 1GB *cough* usb stick. Capacity 951.6MB. LMDE Xfce iso size: 958.1 MB. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so close T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You could always try compressing it. It might not actually give much (or any), but it also might reduce it just enough to squeeze in. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: what ports is aardwolf availible on? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: wiki T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help ports T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 23, 4000, 4010 and test 6555 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: how do i stop the spellup and resume it again? It keeps casting power projection T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bast's? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: spellup pause T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and spellup resume T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: v6.1 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not just take power pro out of its list of spells? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: how do i stop the spellup T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tech -h 10 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: this spam is too much T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i told you already T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: spellup pause doesnt work T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: would it be bsp pause? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm jsut guessing here T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thanks. Keep forgetting that word T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So, I'm still working on it, but I currently have a "pretty functional" eq sorting script for CMUD now. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: "Pretty functional" meaning it actually sorts eq by level into your container. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And for those interested, I'll put it up for download in the near future. :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: nice. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli just sorted all four of his bags. :D T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli already has a level search for bags on CMUD. Allows you to search between levels in a bag of your choice for items. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am guessing you did something similar to Madcatz plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: More or less, Turie. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Of course, his was the inspiration for this script. :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: Etzli, you should do for cmud what Fiendy has done for Aardclient... package that stuff man T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Baconist: I do, whenever I have something I think someone might be interested in. :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Like the identify script, that's still out in Package Library. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And... in the near future, I'll be releasing my scripts out to the public. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Semper Baconist is stoked! go go Etzli T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody who uses iptables know how you'd specify all addresses on an interface with fragmented packets, in ip6tables and iptables? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'd like to drop every single fragmented packet that arrive's so thing's like some nmap scan's won't register at all T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's a implicit 0/0 for the iptables, but i can't see an equivalent for ip6tables which demands an arguement for it T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: maybe :: but who knows what that matches ::/64 or what? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Imp Druzil :/0 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: then i guess i'd drop tech do server's send a fin to client's when a transmission is complete? if not, it might be best to filter all fin's too, if it's up to the client to end a transmission a client requested T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: cause there is fin scan's, and a person responds with a fin ack T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirabelle Tech: anyone know why, when I set an alias 'ab' on the mushclient for cast 'acid blast', and try to initiate combat using 'ab ', I get something about abusing ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirabelle Tech: the alias works fine once combat is already underway T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirabelle Tech: it's the aardwolf mushclient, btw T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: did you set it to have a %1 or whatever the correct mush modifier is, for it to recognize a target? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: don't you have to specify arguments in the alias name ? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirabelle Tech: ahh, thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I know for zmud, for it to target something on initiation, it would be "c 'acid blast' %1" in the value, in order for it to target, and not just cast. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: maybe that can give you an idea for what you need to look for in mush terms :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirabelle Tech: thanks :) T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why would it skip the alias and use a mudside social tho T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if no arguments it should've casted it without target, not exec an social T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: well, if my guess about the alias needing a parameter in its definition (not its command) then it didn't trigger as an alias cause it didn't match T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: because the client isn't recognizing a target, so it's not firing the alias, would be my guess. instead it's doing the social mudside. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis is agreeing with that Thunderous Norton person again... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: so the equiv of alias ab (*) = cast 'acid blast' %1 is whats needed i guess. but i don't know mushclient syntax T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis is agreeing with that Thunderous Norton person again... T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Same here, I'm not sure on the mush syntax. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirabelle Tech: I got it. Alias: ab * output: c 'acid blast' %1 T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirabelle Tech: thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: jeez i was close T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis beams a smile at Mirabelle. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}#/bin/bash Isildur Tech: what's the difference between zmud and cmud? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: one they update, one they dont hehe T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Also, what kind of scripting they accept. Go to the zuggsoft website and check it out for in depth info. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Any connection between Zugg, and the humor website http://www.zug.com/ T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So... who's interested in trying out the EQsorter I wrote for CMUD? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Gimme CMUD and I will! T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: ... :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: it works terribly on mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: How does it work "terribly" on MUSH? By the way, I did not author the MUSH eq sorter plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, after having written my own beast of an inv/eq script (not sorted, but does a collapsible container tree) and currently facing having to rewrite it for bugfixing purposes...no thanks. :P T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli comforts Dokkar. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko puts her head in her hands and sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'll take a look at it if you wish, though, as a gesture of solidarity. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wonder if anything about eq/inv has changed over on testport? T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The module is here: http://pastebin.com/pbTsUZUA T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's pretty simple, though the eqsorthelp file is... pretty non-helpful. :p T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: But you can do eqsort <###> , where the ### is the item id of the container (optional) and HL is "high to low" (which is also optional)... Hmmm... noticed one thing, though. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Oo, noticed another problem, too... the infinite creation of a temp trigger. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if with chrome, i can make it so people cant delete the history without a password T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I use firefox or opera. Sorry. T3/r3/2011-06-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I don't think that Chrome asks for a password when you clear the browser data. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so in my new comp build i can install linux and it will boot just fine, but my windows can't see the drives to install, windows fail? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, windows fail. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so stupid T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so now im using linux to format the drives to ntfs T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and hoping they will see them then T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: if linux installs why dont you use it lol T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: because I don't like linux T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: shun shun shun T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and this computer is being made for gaming T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: fails to see the drive on setup ? you need to install the drivers. there's normally an option to install additional drivers (f6) i think T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zilocke Tech: PCLinuxOS is a good version of Linux, works pretty similar to Windows. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yeah what windows version T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: norton has it right T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: win 7, shouldn't have driver issues T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lol fail what kind o drives T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: formatting it to ntfs in linux won't help T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ssd T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: intel 320 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try uninstalling linux first - w7 can be a prick that way sometimes T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and a samsung spinpoint T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: oh i tried windows first and the drives show up in bios but not showing as valid boot device T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Could be the ssd firmware, I've been told - no experience personally myelf T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: myself* T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: right, my issue is I have no way of actually upgrading the firmware T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: all that means is the hardware the drive is sitting on wasn't know when windows was released. ie, a specific raid array even with only 1 drive T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yeah but it should read an old sata spinpoint drive, that isn't new tech yeah? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=18363 get the iso its a firmare tool look up install 3rd party drives windows 7 and use this iso as the 3rd party friver burn it like any other iso T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The disadvantage of having an os that only release with 5 year intervals (or so) T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: the drive isn't, but the thing the drive is attached to is T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: gotcha T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i'll try that iso T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ok it might fix it assuming windows has outdated firmware T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: on a side note my new case is fricking sweet looking T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: like he said Ranrr Tech: The disadvantage of having an os that only release with 5 year intervals (or so) T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: no cd's in my house T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: no cd's in my house T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: lets just use this here dual layer dvd T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: should be able to use a usb stick T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: imgburn tried really hard to talk me out of it T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: "are you SURE you want to burn 2.4mb of data to this disc" T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lmao T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: those disks dont come cheap T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: this is where you find you've burned the wrong 2.4mb of data and need another one in a min T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i have 4 more T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: er 3 more T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: had to buy a 5 pack a while back to burn some music T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: didn't want to lug around 2 discs T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lol nice T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: heh my usb with my win 7 install just sits there thinking now that its formatted ntfs T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: but doesn't do anything T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: come on hurry up and write empty data to that 4.69999999 gb of disc already T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: longest finalise ever T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Well yeah. It has to write 4GB of "This block intentionally left blank." T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wow... T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: it's still going T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: wonder if i can put it on my usb stick at the same time it has the win 7 on it T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: should be able to T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: l T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: don't even remember how i set it up T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: gonna try remaking my install stick too just to cover all bases T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ever seen a corsair 600t special edition? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: im such a fucking idiot T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: pardon my language T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: the stupid usb drive had become corrupted or something T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: re-create it and the windows install loads right upo T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: spent the last 4 hours researching driver issues etc etc T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Hi. Why doesnt bast spwllup miniwindow work? Everythime i install it, it gives an error T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: 10 second reboot times are sweeeeeeeeet T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: I apologise for asking, again but whats that command used again? sbp sadd or something, for bast v6.1 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: got it sorted then ruiner ? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i tested out the plugins, 9 of bast v6.1 dont work T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: bsp sadd T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: all the ones im using work T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: auto hunt, spellups, event tracker T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: the spellup window doesnt, it gives an error everytime i install it\ T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: you prolly have the entire MUSH installed in a poor place on the PC, it gets errors if it isnt simple as hell like, c:game/ T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: okay i typed bsp sadd but its not buffing me automatically.. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: v5 worked perfectly. it goes under downloads T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: norton: yeah i'm an idiot T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: my usb disk with win 7 on it was corrupted T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ouch T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so i did all that rebooting, removing drives, changing ports T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: browsing forums T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: for no reason T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: that sucks how did you figure out it was corrupt? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: well as I waited for my imgburn to finalise that poor unfortunate dual layer dvd T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i figured i would make a usb stick firmware upgrade T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so for shits and giggles i checked the setup.exe out T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and it wouldn't load T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ouch T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ...remade the usb stick and no problem T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: kinda funny really T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lol poor poor dual layer disk T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: thats actually worse than it being the wrong 2.4mb on the dvd T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: he was my sacrifice to the technology gods T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: guys please go to gossip. This channel is for people who have problems T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: we are discussing a problem. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: does it look like any one has problems? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: take your attitude somewhere else T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: no attitude boykie i was asking T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so i also discovered my fan was installed backwards for my water cooling setup so i needed to swap it around anyway T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: was exhausting instead of pulling in T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: looks like i may have another issue though T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh god... T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: one of my sticks of ram will load fine in the second slot T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: but if i put it's dual channel twin in the appropriate i get a ram error T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: ohh lol that happens i forget why T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and if i move to the other channel it won't work either by itself T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: but its not your mother board ohh is it running a 64 or 32 and how bug is each stick? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: 64bit 4gb each T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: lemme get this right. stick 1 in slot 1 works. stick 2 in slot 2 doesn't and stick 1 in slot 2 doesn't T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: hmmm let me check what os is on it none right? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: stick 4 slots, mobo recommends dual channels for 2 and 4 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: windows is pissy about ram amounts T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: it won't even post if i put more than one in T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: with 1 stick in slot 2 it posts, either stick i use T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wierd how new are these T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: but won't post with either in 4 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: try slots 2 and 4 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: if its not posting then it might be your mb T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: 2 and 4 wpn't work netiher will 1 and 3 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: what about 1 and 2 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: did you try 2 and 3 im guessing you have T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: did't try that because 1 stick didn't work in 1, let me try T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: try both ways stick 1 in slot one stick 2 slot 2 stick 2 slot 1 and stick 1 slot 2 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: why is my client whoising itself T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: this is spam T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: anyone know where i can get proper plugins? Had enough of bast plugins i always get spam T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: his plugins are amazing and incredibly easy to use T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: write your own if you don't like them T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: must be operator error T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: its a computor virus called operator error T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: lol ask bast he prob knows T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: nope its called bast v6.1 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: slots 1 and 2 will boot up T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: but how much effeciency am I losing by not being in dual channel mode T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: i have no idea look it up T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: well gtg hope you get your onslaught of issues fixed T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: we will see, havea good night T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: One disadvantage of e-book readers.... they're easier to lose than a shelf full of books. *mumble* T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: wheres bast? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: help tell and help finger T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: These plugins are giving too much problems T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: someone phone him and tell him to come online, lol T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the nerve of him T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Add carriage returns to your prompts - then try some patience T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how dare he put up free plugins and have them not work T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Could not load pluginlist(e8520531407cb4281bea544e) because the file was not found. I installed all the plugins T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: and theres a lot more error messages T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you upgrade mush recently? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: redryn your not a child so stop acting like one, can anyone help get my plugins working? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: yes. I upgraded it yesterday T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sounds like you copied a reference file, i.e. a world file iirc, but didn't copy the files it references T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you weren't so demanding, I'm sure people might try to help you. However, for you to demand someone call Bast and have him come online is rude, and won't get you anywhere. :) T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i didnt demand that, it was a joke. How old are you T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: im 12, and you? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There's no sarcasm tags on the internet - write what you mean - especially on a technical channel T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: 20 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: btw redryn - props on mudding at age 3 :-) T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i got the miniwindow to work, it says i have 64 pending spellups but its not casting any of them T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Past is past people, time to grow up and learn to let go:) Think about what i said chat later must try and fix this problem T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I hope you take your own advice. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Okay i reinstalled aardwolf, how do i get bast_spellup to work? When i install it, it gives me an error T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: try what i told you an hour ago? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: sorry what did you tell me? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: install the MUSH client in a very simple folder location, such as c:games/, if you have to create c:games folder, then put it there. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: okay ill do it quickly T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: spaces in the location file causes errors or some crap, came from BAST fixed my problems T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i placed it in a file on desktop, is that okay? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i got spellup to work but now disarm and consider dont want to work T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Could anyone please help? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What do you mean with disarm and consider won't work? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: anway to connect to an airport connection with a static ip it wouldn't let me T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol... no T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: grrr thats annoying i like my static ip i have it all set up so i can remove it from anywhere. Ohh well ill deal for now T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Your static IP is *usually* owned by your service provider - unless you're acting as a web server T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Easiest thing to do would be to ssh to the computer with the static ip, and use that connection remotely T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Unless you are an ISP, you don't own or have control over your IP address. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Having a web server makes no difference. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As in as a web server, you can purchase rights to an IP - not commonly done for less than a corporation T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Rare even then T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No you can't. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can pay your ISP to get a static IP though. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ummm... While I was speaking in Australian terms, you can buy IP's through ARIN in the US - but as I said, almost nobody but isps actually do T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Only an ISP (technically a LIR) can do this. Also, you need somewhere to connect your IP addresses to. That makes you an ISP. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, with the current lack of IP addresses, getting PI space today is hard. You probably need to be a multi-homed ISP or Content provider to get it. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, you don't need to be an ISP, you could also be a multi-homed corporation or a content provider. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But it's complicated and expensive to do. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The US is stricter than here, from what I've read just now, but in OZ if you can prove a purpose, usually education or commercial, you can buy blocks of 12 IP addresses quite easily - but in any case it's irrelevant to the original question. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You info is outdated. Even APNIC is strict nowadays. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Still doable, you just need to motivate your need better than before. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And technically, you don't buy IP ranges. You pay administrative fees :/ T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'd say with DistributeIT dumping a good number of clients, we'll see that ease off considerably in the near future :-) Though I have seen they aren't releasing half-shares like they used to - seems it's a full /24 or bust now :-( T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there any way in mapper to list the rooms with the longest speedwalks - i.e. the ones you have the most rooms to travel to get to? To know which areas you most need portals for, btw T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: what would be the syntax to wear 2 items for a single alias? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use two semicolons to create a multi-line alias T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nocturnus which client? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whoops - should've asked that first :-( T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: mushclient, i'm just trying to make an alias for me to wear my shield and hold an item T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: for when i activate my ironfist T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in that case have each action on its own line T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: it said in the help about separating with a semicolon but that didn't work, or i didn't do it right lol T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You need to use 2 for serverside aliases T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: as in line1;;line2 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: got it, thanks a lot T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: anybody have a battle damage tracker for zmud? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's wrong with dtrack? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: oh (open mouth inserts foot) T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Hi, i downloaded bast an hour ago and have had some problems. I installed quest miniwin and double miniwin but it doesn't appear on my screen.. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: it won't show up if there isn't double T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you install the minitab window? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: where do i do that? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Oh okay. Thanks Vale T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: i put tags off by mistake then back on. How do i get my spellup to work again? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Sorry for the spam. Its my first time using this T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: restart your client would be the easiest way T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: okay restarting didnt work T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what was the problem? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: i dont know T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so how do you know it didn't work? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: im not getting spelled up T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what started the problem? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you sure your tags are on? type "tags" and is the Global tags option on at the bottom? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: i put tags off by mistake because I'm receiving these {inv} and other messages, i put tags back on now the spellup doesn't work T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: my tags are on T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I assume you are using my spellup plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have any thing in the spellup window that says waiting? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: no. 43 pending T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, first type "bsp refresh" and see if that does anything T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: giant strength is waiting T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: ah that worked thank you T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Which tags give me {inv} and those similar messages? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: invmon T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: okay thanks T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: Does anyone here use Acronis? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have.. but i'm no expert T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: I'm really just looking for general opinion on it, probably purchasing it for bare metal backups this week T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's good.. it's reliable, adn you can do full or incremental backups T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: were you using it in a multiserver environment to a san/nas or? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It is good, if your intent is to restore to the same machine that you backed up. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there is probably free software that'll do the same.. but if you've got a busines budget, i'd recommend it from what i saw T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 0h T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: essentially I will be doing away with tape backups completely and going to a sata swap system T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: Feeder, what's your platform like? Are these physical servers or virtual? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: clonezilla, ftw T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: all physical, 6 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've used acronis before T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: all various forms of windows server T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've been trying to find a timemachine type open source software for a while T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only thing I didn't like about acronis was that managing the backup server is kind of unintuitive T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: There is an exchange server also which I am curious to see how it handles T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: Just a sec, I looked at something recently and it looked pretty snazzy. Digging through email. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: I can't wait to get away from tapes, its like 1985 every time I have to do anything with them T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: http://www.appassure.com/ - A friend showed it to me. They use it for all their hosts and back up to a 8TB SATA NAS. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doroga Tech: I looked at it, but it became redundant for us as we just purchased a NetApp SAN T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: Hmm, gonna check into that for sure, the UI is sorta important as non-it people will have to deal with it during my vacation heh T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone good with perl know of a quick method of recursively finding if a number's prime, from a range of numbers. For example, find all the prime numbers between 3 and 4million T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle vomitted when he heard the word "perl" T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.osix.net/modules/article/?id=185 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycola Tech: do pre-titles support 256 colors? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: pretitles don't support color, period T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: also, not really a question for tech :P T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is any place where can I calculate how many trains I need to get max stats? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Mohan: i just use a spreadsheet T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: sometimes I dual things, and sometimes I wear things, is there a good technique for having aliases know which to do? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: currently, I'm attempting to dual and wear the item. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Set a variable. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I have a variable for offweapon, are you suggesting set a 2nd for dual or wear? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Have it called 'wear' and if true (or boolean 1), then wear it, if false (boolean 0), then dual it. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko nods. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm no way to make a note for an entire area in the mapper is there? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyway to show all the notes for rooms in an area? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm. I thought I had a "thisarea" filter for notes, but I guess I didn't add that T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm... leave it in the first room of the area? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: First room of an area, might be very far away and not visble on the mapper though Bobthegreat. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'd like to make an alias utilizing variables, so p1 * = get 1 from bag, but my syntax is obviously wrong, this is with mushclient, can anyone help? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i don't understand what you're asking T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Are you using %1, or just 1? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I want to pull portals out of my bag using their id, I have a variable that has their id defined T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: so p1 fortress, will grab my portal to goblin fortress T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Match: p1 *; Send: get %1 bag T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: err, Send("get "..GetVariable("%1").." bag") T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: it's not expanding the variable when I do that T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: ah, thank you, I will try that. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: that work out? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: not yet :) T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh, make sure you change the 'send to' field to 'script' T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to send to script or use a concatenated send T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the %1 will be parsed even with send to world, and named variables will also be parsed with send to world when you check 'expand variables' T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: expand variables was the first thing I tried T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: yeah, if you did it send to world it'd be @%1 T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: yes it would since %1 is the name of his variable T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %1 is a special variable, not the name of a variable T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: but his named variable is the parameter he's passing to the alias T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ie p1 fortress, he wants to get the value of the fortress variable from his bag T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: pl fortress=get ortress bag T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: pl fortress=get @fortress bag T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You see now? lol T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko nods. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: so did it work mieko? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: no, but I'm looking at http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetVariable T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, double-evaluating, sorry T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: actually, i'm not sure if you need to quote the %1 inside the GetVariable T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but that was more of a distant threat as they agreed, but possible T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works exactly as you put it to tech in my test T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh ok T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: We're good then :) T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: then there was oil shortage T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: mis again T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I made alias p1 *, action of Send("echo get "..GetVariable("%1").." bag"), send to script...I made a variable of "fortress", with the value "goblin"...when I connected to my shell and typed "p1 fortress", it echoed "get goblin bag", showing that it performed the substitution T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd further refine it to have a send for wear foo, enter, rem foo, put foo bag, and probably a wear usualitem T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'm simply not familiar with your syntax for describing aliases T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not much to be familiar with...paste in the exact code T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to type "p1 fortress", and have it get warplans bag, right? T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: got it T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so after you do game -> configure -> aliases, and click new, you'll put "p1 *" into the top narrow field, and put Send("echo get "..GetVariable("%1").." bag") into the huge field, and use the drop-down to select script T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I thought Send was encapsulating what goes in the send window of alias. T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Send() is a script function T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I have it working now T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: thank you both T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to expand that by copying the send line a few times T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and changing what it's doing...cuz really you should have "p1 fortress" do a "get warplans bag" "wear warplans" "enter" "wear " "put warplans bag" T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Agreed T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in tinyfugue's code, mine is: T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def do_portal_engine = /wake %; /eval /set portal_name=%1 %; /eval /set portal_container=%2 %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /if (primary_portal=~portal_name) enter %; /return %; /endif %; /else /remdual %; /endif %; g $[portal_name] $[portal_container] %; d %;/if (gmcp_room_info_num = 26151) d %; /endif %; wear $[portal_name] %; enter %; /if (has_portal_wish=~"Y") /wear_pri_portal %; /else /weardual %; /endif %; put $[portal_name] $[portal_container] T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Mine's so much prettier T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: #ALIAS {wearportal}={get %0 'portals aard bag';wear %0;#send {enter};wear lifetime;put %0 'portals aard bag';#if {"{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}{1}" == ""}{echo ||GetDest||;#var {portal_name} {%0};#var haveportal[%0] 1;};} @ {5} T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: well T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if i would remember to put the \ at the start, that is T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that function actually takes 2 parameters...the first is the portal keyword, the second is the container's keyword...because some portals don't have any unique keywords, I have a main portalbag and another bag with the oddball portals T3/r3/2011-06-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: #ALIAS {wearportal}={get %0 $portalbag;wear %0;#send {enter};wear $portal;put %0 $portalbag;#if {"$haveportal[%0]" == ""}{echo ||GetDest||;#var {portal_name} {%0};#var haveportal[%0] 1;};} @ {5} T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: heck yes, prime95 testing my favorite passtime T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos . o O ( 95 is not prime... ) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Anyone have any idea why my laptop might be suddenly running really hot? The internal temp keeps jumping up to 70 degrees celcius with nothing even running, then overheats if I try playing a game. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: how old is it T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Have you taken a blow can to the fans? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: you might have dust build up T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: It's a year and a half old. Took an air hose to it. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: it only overheats when you play a game? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: do the fans sound like they are active? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Proper ventilation is a problem, too. If it's not on a vented surface, it will get hot. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Yeah, it only gets hot enough to actually overheat when I go to play a game. But just yesterday I had only mush client and Pandora going, and it went up to 87, and that was with the cpu cover offer and the entire thing sitting about 2 inches off the surface. The fan is running too. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: If the game is very demanding, then you may want a better cooling system T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: try detailing it? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I've played these game on here before with no problem. Just started happening a few weeks ago.. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: if dust has accumulated, it will raise the temp up by either conducting heat or clogging intakes. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: or both T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe you have malware that is bogging down the cpu. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: That's what I'm starting to wonder. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Boot safe mode, download esetsmart, an antivirus software, remove any possible malware, defrag your hard drive, and make sure your vents and internal workings are clean T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Ran spybot, that found some stuff, now it's down to 43C. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: wow T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I didn't realize high cpu use would increase the temp so much T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zilocke Tech: There's not much space to get rid of the heat it builds up, the CPU and video card are usually the worst heat sources in a computer. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Yeah, definitely always gonna run pretty warm. Just trying to figure out why it's running so much hotter than usual with nothing running. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Air circulation? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Clogged filter? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zilocke Tech: Cleaned the tower and your fans? I ended up with cat hair built up on top of my processor one time. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Did you try our fixes? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: implement liquid cooling, just drop your laptop into a vat of non-conductive fluid, keep a towel near by. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Yeah, already tried blowing out everywhere inside. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: wont be enough T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: turn on the comp and leave side panel off and check out fans T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: You need to actually eliminate all the dust, blowing sometimes worsens the problem, pushes dust into some weird nooks and crannies T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: sometimes they lose rpm's as they start to die T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and make more noise T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zilocke Tech: As long as it's not on the fan or whatever, it seems to do fine for me. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: so it seems like they are working just as hard T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko sighs, I have a large fan making more noise. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Emergency! I have a Dell XPS M1530, and the left click button just kind of stopped depressing. It still clicks if I press on it, but it doesn't un-depress from click stance, and while functionally, it works...it's annoying as hell. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Is that fixable and/or how do I fix it? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: do you mean your mouse? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Yeah T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I have one of those. You poor, poor thing. No idea about your button though. I actually have a usb mouse. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I like my XPS, but this mouse button thing is uncomfortable T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: mice are cheap, I recommend getting a new one. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: It's a touch pad. xps1530's a laptop, Mieko. But yeah. Why not drop 10 bucks and get a mouse? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: See, that's why I didn't say "mouse" because it's the left click button on a laptop. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Because sometimes I use it in places where a mouse is not convenient, like on the bus, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: ugh, I hate touchpads, I like the nipple mouse. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Fair enough. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I have several mice. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I don't know what to tell you. Getting into the guts of this thing is an ordeal, let alone getting behind the touchpad. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Any chance you just have a crumb wedged onto the 'spring'/bracket under the button? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Definitely possible. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I occasionally use my laptop more or less as a plate. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin enthusiastically high-fives System of Accora! T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I'm looking for something small enough to jam down in there, but a toothpick seems to be a little too thick T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Bad Habit Laptop Users Unite. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko puts her head in her hands and sighs. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Oh, I know T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I'll turn it upside down and shake it really hard. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Yeah. Even if you could get it into the crack, you'd never get it under the center of the key. Any canned air around? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Guessing you don't have a can of air, to eliminate that possibility :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: no wait, hold it over your head and stare at it first, then shake it back and forth. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I do have some canned air, but I doubt it will actually get down in there. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: It's more likely than a toothpick. :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Hey, I did actually get the toothpick in there. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Any luck? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I think the spring is broken or something T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: How old is it? It's not a spring, it's a little rubber foot. And sometimes they get dried out and/or crack. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: what happened? I logged on to aardwolf and all my bast plugins are gone T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a load fail would make them unload from plugins T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: i see it worked i moved bast to a different location, installed all plugins and got no errors T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: anyone running mush on wine? What version wine should i use? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: how do i add more than one spell to bsp again? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: spellup all T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: basts spellup v6.1 T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is anyone there ? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: an if check isn't working in cmud T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I figured it out T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: does too many plugins make aardwolf slow or is it just my modem? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's your computer T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Computer processing power. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: My computer has just been bought a week ago T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: and upgraded T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: also, don't get plugins that do the same thing, like two hunt plugins :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Antique store? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean by 'slow'? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: lol i have two hunt plugins. Which one is better? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the second T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it shouldn't take much bandwidth to transfer text T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: slow meaning if i go north or east it takes a minute to move T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Thats not connection T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lag you mean? probably connection T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Okay thanks T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: That sounds like something actively stopping the client from sending the information T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Make certain you do not have many programs running in the background. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: its better now, my spells were stacking. Just reinstalled my plugins, thanks:) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: i just have aard and facebook running T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Lol i play aard and mafia wars T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: is it best to take my battery out when playing aard on my laptop and leave it on charge or wont the battery get flat? Its the second time i put it on charge today T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: imms are babysitters online...they don't change how the game works T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, third time's a charm T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie starts whining to you. Won't he just shut up? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I change the dirctory in which my mapper database is in? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest not doing so T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I edited one part of the plugin which opens the database with an assert() statement, but that doesn't seem to do the trik T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: trick* T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the database will move with your mushclient folder, there's no reason to move it elsewhere T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: problem is, even if you do figure out how, you'll need to make that change every time you update T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it'll just be more annoying than useful T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nah, just trying something for now - experimental T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: particularly since there's no usefulness to the change :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Well, I want he db file to be in a dropbox shared folder T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put mush into it T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: put your entire mushclient there and you're all set :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc redryn was using mush that way T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat thwaps himself for being a moron. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, the db moves with your mushclient folder :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: or check out duckbat's program that lets you connect to the same session of mushclient from multiple computers T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah, I saw the GetInfo(66) thingy returns the current directory T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Duckbat's program? Wheres that? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: on his site T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: board tech, note read 5465 T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: board tech, note from duckbat T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that that program doesn't help you see the mapper from multiple computers, though T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can still use the mapper commands though T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's good for letting you use telnet from somewhere else to still get access to your mushclient stuff, but won't get the GUI T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone nkow specifically how to download the aardwolf app for android T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download it on your PC T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so you can't use it on your phone? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you use it on your phone, but unless you've got the installer program on your phone, you need the PC to transfer it T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: You could also use Dropbos to get the apk file on your phone as well T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: Dropbox* T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: so can i just download blowtorch and connect to aard that way? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but then you'd need to set everything up manually T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just goto: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/android-mud.htm from your phone and download the apk, and install it, T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no need for a pc T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is "Installing the client" section to follow T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I have an alias rt * Send("mapper goto "..GetVariable("%1")) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: how do I get it to send to execute? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I think that's where it needs to go T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the drop-down T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't use the Send mehtod, use the Execute method T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: method, rather T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: ah, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, yeah, you don't want Send() there T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I just learned send today, now execute :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're not sending "mapper goto ..." to the MUD T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: alias works great, thank you! T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fiendish, you rock. :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: is there an easy way to determine current room id for use in aliases? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: mapper thisroom T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: and just parse out the id? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh, for use in a script? Call the gmcp plugin for room,info and pull the id out of it. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: room.info* T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: okay, I'll work on that T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I may be doing this wrong... T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: mapper areas lists all the areas I've explored with keywords, is there a built in function to move to areas by their keywords? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: okay :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc mapper has bookmarks, set bookmark to areashortname? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I don't see that in the current mapper command list, but I'm one version behind. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is mapper note T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Mapper Bookmarks was renamed to Mapper Notes. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: ah, thank you T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: what do you people figure about this link? http://comcastisfuckingwithyourport53traffic.wordpress.com/ this person seems to have done some tests on his theories and found that comcast spoofs/redirects port 53 lookups so it can filter who's doing what with what T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i notice some strange traffic coming to my port 53, also some times when i connect to a website google will log a bunch of strange activity from various ip addresses T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and yahoo for some strange reason, while i never visited any of their sites recently T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you should stop visiting those sites, or at least turn your AV/Firewall back on T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: depending on the age of your browser, you may also want to upgrade. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they poke a hole through my router, which is as secure as it can get, minus using something like openwrt which is very cryptic to install and requires alot of effort T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and then they send packets directly to my computer T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but it's those corporate websites and web addresses, i don't understand why they'd be probing me at all T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they don't poke a hole through your router and they're not probing you T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: as far as i know i haven't went to any prohibited sites recently T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sounds exactly like what evil trojan/virus/worm-creating hackers would know about. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that's possible abelinc, it could be legitimate traffic, maybe spawned by a website and seemingly unrelated to my connection T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: understand that most of the sites you'll go to intentionally tell your computer to go talk to google... T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but sometimes when i'm not even using the internet, out of 10-15 hours of traffic one will arive from one of those websites, and i wonder why T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google provides tons of services to legit websites T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, that seems tobe the case with alot of them T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: cookies and such. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: between google analytics giving website owners stats, and google adwords for revenue/ads, etc T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: do you have any sites in your list that you made exceptions for? Favorite sites, important sites, etc? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then if you have chrome installed, that's gonna check in with the mother ship when looking for updates, etc T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: of course not, i don't even trust my own network or my own processes, except on a case by case basis, which is as minimal as annoyingly possible T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so there's buttloads of legitimate reasons for your computer to reach out to google without you thinking that it's you initiating the connection T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i could make it alot more confusing and hard to possibly break into, but that would make it damn near unusable to me T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i made it so that root can only log in from tty 1 for instance, and no user can use the su command T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: everyone uses cookies now, and up until recently the practice of targeted popups/popunders was an undocumented but otherwise encourage feature of all browsers. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google isn't breaking into your network, your computer is calling google T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: nah, if my computer was calling people, ip_conntrack would register that connection as being started here T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: sometimes it may be links on webpages though that are seemingly unrelated T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: those come from 3rd-party advertising banners. They sometimes carry viruses. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i whacked all my processes that seem to have absolutely no use to me, i could maybe whack a few more T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whack them all!!! Muhahahha! T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a good adblocker should stop those, but their trick is that they come as a package deal with the core website which you either let through on purpose or didn't set any restrictions on yet. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i tried to absolutely remove exim from y distro, but trying the dpkg --purge or that remove depends etc, left all of its config files and stuff before T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so i settled for leaving it disabled T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i probably should install some output rule's, and make things more difficult there for processes i'm not aware of T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: maybe that SELinux would keep the kernel memory regions under tighter control than default, then there's cryptography, but really, i think the only way to be satisfied with something like that is to write the algorithm myself and make sure nobody else knows what it is T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good luck with that :-) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and for that, i have to be disconnected from the network, write my own kernel routines and filesystem or modify the absolutely understood source code to my liking, etc, so there's only relative security at this point T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just switch to openbsd if you want a secury, but not very usable, OS. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: In the helpfiles how do i get these off again? {/help} {helpkeywords} without turning tags off T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: clientside gagging T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type "tags" to see the option's name T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then type "tags off" T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that's a good system, but lacks alot of end user front end application's or even basic thing's like sound for some models and graphics card fan control (you have to know the voltages) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and how to tweak a manual motherboard driver to your liking T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'll turn off just the one thing but leave teh other tags alone T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think they said most of them either use it on a laptop, or on a server T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Hello smart people of aardwolf, I am in need of some assistance! T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: My screen goes black and I have to reset my pc to make it respond again when I try to run a certain old game (tiberium wars) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has it ever run on that system? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: It did, until I hooked up my new monitor ;) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: It uses HDMI instead of DVI, only difference (and it's 2 inches bigger) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: possibly your new monitor doesn't support dumbing down to that low of res T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: is your need monitor widescreen? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim collapses to his knees from newbie abuse. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Yes, it's widescreen, as is my old monitor T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leolin Tech: Anyone here know how to send tells to a separate window using cmud T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: So the only possible difference can be the hmdi functionality...but that shouldn't matter T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: All other games work fine T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trigger on {tell} to #cap T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly need to do it as ~{tell~] T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err, prolly need to do it as ~{tell~} T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leolin Tech: trying to use #WIN tells %gmcp.comm.channel.tell (of which "tells" is my tell window T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leolin Tech: that cap and gag works if it's just a one liner T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it the same video card driving the hdmi that used to drive the dvi? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Yup T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I can try it again on my old screen, quite certain it will work somehow T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check its settings to see if there's any settings to send certain types of video out to hdmi and not others T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kind of like my combo vcr/dvd player...it'll put dvd out of component video but not vcr out of it...and iirc it will put vcr out the composite video but not dvd T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and svideo and coax will work for both T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I tried to set different (non 1080p) resolution aswell, no difference T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the game itself is likely forcing your resolution T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tons of games brute force your resolution when they start T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Run it in windowed mode T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Yes, but the game should force 22inch widescreen res tbh T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Since thats the last resolution I ran it in T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: So I add -windowed to command line or something? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: You'd have to google that T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: The game may be forcing an intial 640x480 to play a video, or something equally asinine T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ye T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I would guess it's the video T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I would guess it's the video T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Whoops T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I can try to remove the ingame movies T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: ALso in a queue now to talk with a EA guy, so I'll write down any possible solutions/ideas T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Otherwise I need to reboot and get kicked out of queue :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: they are not going to be able to help you is my guess, considering you're asking for support on a 12 year old game :p T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: True that T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: But I want it to work! :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: It's awesome for lan parties :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: maybe just run it in a vm T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it goes black, you should be able to alt-f4 to get back without rebooting T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, vm would be a workable option T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Ah, didnt try that one yet T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Well, its odd T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I also reinstalled the game (with a reboot) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: If it works on a 22 inch, it should also on a 24 T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I meant without a reboot T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: other then the plugin wizard, how can I give a bunch of triggers and alias to a friend? so that she can go in and edit them in the trigger window? (MUSH) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: highlight them and click copy T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste them into a textfile T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a way to get them all into MUSH quickly? or will she have to add them all in one at a time? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: she can paste them in T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in game -> configure -> triggers...you can highlight all of them at once, then click copy T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hightlight all the aliases, then in the windo just hit paste? and it'll add them all? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's all 1 thing...she can similarly paste them all in 1 shot T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: of cool! T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: of = oh T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on your end, highlight & hit copy...on her end, she'll put them into her clipboard by select all/copy, then in mushclient she'll click paste T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm, I cant seem to hightlight more then one at a time T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hold down shift T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: an d ctrl-A didn't work T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, i T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use shift for contiguous, or ctrl for skipping T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, i'll try T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that's not working, no matter what key I hold down while I click, its like I'm clicking without any keypress. :( T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: might be another pecularity of me being on a mac T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: must be T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh! it doesnt work in tree view, turn that off, and it workds. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could try the plugin wizard to dump them all out T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't even know what tree view is :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i did that, but she can't tweek them, edit them. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: just make sure the "remove from world" checkbox is unchecked T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: she can then copy and paste those.. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: little tick box lower right side of the trigger window T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alternatively, you can just open your worlds\aardwolf.mcl file in text editor and copy them from there T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I never noticed that checkbox T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh.. I gave her the plugin.. she can remove it, then copy them into the window? that's cool T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, with the plugin she has everything she needs T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the copy and paste isnt' a special object.. it's jsut text.. as long as you copy the start and end tag.. it'll paste in T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy the section, paste it in T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: maybe i'll do that. she can have them all, then edit what she wants/doesnt T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for this method of import/export, she'll need to paste the triggers separately from the aliases, etc...but when you see the output file, it'll make sense which are which...do the whole aliases section as one, the whole triggers section as one, etc T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, thanks. very helpful. :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I put SetVariable ("test_name", "test_value") into a plugin expecting it to create a variable test_name that I could access from aliases, but it's not working.. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: am I using the wrong function? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No. Plugins have a seperate variable space. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins are meant to be self-contained T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an island T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: which is prolly a very good thing... but sometimes I wish I could go in and tweek something. but if I screw it up, then i'm fucked. :p T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i'd love to bridge some islands together T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that's why you have methods to do just that T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes. liek the gmcp val T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've been fooling around with function pointers in LUA.. makes em think of soem fun things to do with plugin broadcast T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: publishing events T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so use plugin broadcast tools T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (MUSH) can you put an alias in the send section of a different alias? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, but send to execute, not world T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: any special syntax? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: send it to execute T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the alias that's calling an alias, send to execute T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, ok T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sending to execute runs it through the input parser T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: execute basically says "parse this as if I typed it" T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: world is truly send this straight to the world, with variable substitution the only thing it parses T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh, just realized the alias I wanted to send it a mud-side.. but it'll still work. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well, that just means that it'd work even as send to world T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: So I'm trying to install Bast's plugins...I've followed his directions on the installation page, but when I try to boot up, I get a load of errors, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: did you put all the lua files in? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I copied the Bast folder directly into the plugins directory, just like his instructions stated. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: now you know why I don't use that kind of stuff. I'm just too pc dumb. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't have to do anything but unzip a folder called "bast", put that folder in your plugins folder, start MUSHclient, go to file -> plugins, click add, highlight the one you want to use T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: You don't have to be PC-smart to use Bast's plugins T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That's what I've done, right to the T. But I'm getting constant spam for "trigger fuction "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error", along with some other errors showing up. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: When I'm upgrading mushclient and installing the bast plugins I've seen errors, but restarting mushclient fixes it, might be worth a try. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit & restart mush, see if that fixes it...it may be a timing issue with when gmcp info came in after the plugin was installed, and starting mush fresh does the connect to get full gmcp info T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Same thing happened to me again. If anything, it went somewhat worse, as when I restarted it tried to input my character name as "invmon". T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The mapper and default map in mush are also totally blanked, nothing showing. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Did you close MUSHclient while you copied the new plugins into the plugin folder? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I closed the window entirely, not just disconnected. And did so again, to the same end result of error messages. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone know a decent telnet client for an ipod touch? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raulath Tech: I've heard nice things about MUDMaster T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like touchterm and issh T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you want to play a text based game on a tablet device? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup mieko :-) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: issh is nice in that it's telnet/ssh, plus vnc client and Xserver in one T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i'm going to connect to my client with duckbat's program T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko sighs deeply and then weeps. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it can handle a telnet connection, it's good enough, i don't need scripting on it T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at The Reaper Myrkul. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the good thing about the proxy ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yup :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: was a pita to set up though :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: duckbat should write a guide :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guide is in the comments T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I also recommend http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PA-BK03-PB :-) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: heh, i'll definitely consider that :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: abelinc, how hard is it to type on that? it seems really small... T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easier than typing with the onscreen :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm sure :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and gives you back your screen, since the onscreen takes up like 1/3rd of what would otherwise be mud output T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last I used it, touchterm required the onscreen keyboard to be showing even to use the bluetooth one, but you can just make it fully transparent T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hey abe, i'm trying to setup a linux machine on an Amazon EC2 machine.. what linux would be best for being lightweight, but running mush over wine? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: crunchbang :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or just debian sid running xfce or lxde T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or nothing T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've never heard of crunchbang! T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: does it support VNC or FreeNX? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm not really a fan of linux, I'm a NetBSD man personally...but I don't think it'd be ideal to run mush on wine on a cloud box T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vnc is really inefficient T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: FreeNX is more efficient? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK for doing maintenance stuff, but you don't want to have it running your interface on non-lan T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any distro will run vnc or freenx...all distros will have vnc in their repository, and freenx has deb, rpb, emerge, rpm & freebsd ports links on their site T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: freenx should be much more efficient than vnc, but I haven't played with it myself T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thanks gents.. i have already gotten further that i thought i would.. so be ready for the occasionaly stupid qeustion, if you would :) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, linode or panix will be cheaper than amazon T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll check those out abe, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruthless Ross needs recommendations for free data recovery software for Windows. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Shini Stock dagger? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: whenever theres a new aard mushclient update, how do we patch without affecting our scripts? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Have you read the faq about it T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's well documented. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (And it's a process that requires a few steps more than most people would care to explain). T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: is the faq linked with the download notification? I've not noticed it. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: well i havent because i havent convert over yet. trying to tie up the loose ends of logistic issues T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: and the faqs.. on aard site? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you go to the googleprojects page where you download the latest snapshot, click on 'wiki' in the tabs. On the left, there's a link that says 'how do I upgrade?' T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: roger thanks T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It might be on the aard site as well, but since the download is hosted at the google projects page, you'll want to get the info from ther.e T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Actually, turns out it redirects to the Aardwolf page. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So either/or. It's there. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: currently trying out mush. my communication log shows my channel, but its repeated on my "main" window as well. is there a way to just put it up on comms log? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: gag it T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the comm log T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the options in the right-click context menu is to not echo T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Does chats echo off still work? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not GUIized, much easier T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's now* T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ahh the right click and echo off works for me T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: wow im really impressed with the mush layout. i can play with prompt off now T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: good job to all those who helped in this project T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double time is about the last piece of crucial info that's in prompt and nowhere else T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i dont used to put that on my prompt. but my quest time remaining time was on my prompt T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: q time is at least given in lots of places and isn't going to pop up between ticks :-) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It'd be nice if qtime was given outside of groups, though. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Through gmcp, I mean. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: suggestion :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's kind of an impractical suggestion, though. The purpose of it being in group is because it was a requested feature to have displayed in group. Since it's already in gmcp in group, there's no need to display it elsewhere. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, you do get it in gmcp outside of groups at events T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can request it, iirc T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, you can request it, but no real need to since you're given it when it changes importantly T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Does it really? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, comm.quest T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, in comm.quest T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That doesn't show the quest timer, though, does it? At least, not qtime remaining... T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you request a quest, comm.quest tells you how long you have T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'm talking about the 15/30 minutes after failure/completion. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you complete or fail, comm.quest tells you how long 'till next quest T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Never noticed it update every minute then. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't update every minute...why would it need to? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does 30 minutes change? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The countdown until you have a new quest does. ;) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your computer doesn't have a clock? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't know how long 30 mins is? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You are slapped by Ebullient Etzli. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to sync up, you can request it to send you the current time as we said T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's an absolute waste to just send it every minute "just cuz" T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one minute after it said 30...guess what, it's 29 T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those second-by-second tick timers aren't getting the by-the-second update from the MUD...the computer knows how to count down T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same function used to create a tick timer will easily display a self-updating quest timer T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course tickinfo also gives you a by-the-minute update on qtimer if you want T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Group gmcp updates every time the qtimer counts down. It's what I want. That way I'm not required to remember that I took a quest at 7:23 pm and can take another in 12 minutes. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're NOT required to remember it T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're using GMCP, then you're using a highly-developed chronograph device T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have to remember jack T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Sorry, my OCD has to have it synced up as closely as possible. Since 30 minutes is not equal to 60 ticks 100% of the time, I go the next best route. Since I like a much cleaner main interface, I don't have tick show. Yes, I could gag it and do it that way, but I'd rather go under the hood, so to speak. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: group gmcp updates as it counts down because you don't receive your groupmate's comm.quest T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually your qtimer IS equal to ticks 100% of the time... T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmm. Odd then, because I set my script to do qticks/2 rounded up so it'd count down every two ticks recieved via atcp (when that was the protocol) and score would show 59 while qticks/2 would show 60. *shrug* T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i believe the time till next quest after you complete is 59 ticks, not 60, but i'm not positive T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and score shows ticks till next quest? T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Er, meant that score would show 29 minutes while qticks/2 showed 30. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well yeah, i think it's 59 ticks between quests T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: count it on your next quest :P T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: 58 or 59 T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: definitely not 58, then it would never show 30 T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: no it's one or the other T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if you get a quest right as timer hits 0 T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and complete it after one tick T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it was 58 ticks between quests, then the prompt, etc would show 29 mins from the start T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the timer will hit 29 min right after the next tick T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: but if you complete it before a tick and then the mud ticks it'll still read 30 minutes T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, i didn't think when you request the quest would affect it... T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yep. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't, just completion T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian nods at you in agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Velian, you just said requesting the quest affects it, then agreed with Abelinc, who said only upon completion... T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i was nodding because i realized his statement was more accurate T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Completion and requests are two totally different things. :p T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a guy completing a 10-sec quest and a guy completing a 45 min quest both at the same time will be able to take the next quest at the same time :-) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: aye i get that T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if it's taken in an open shop questor, now THAT's another story }:> T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos . o O ( except that the questor is a queue so one of them will have to wait a bit longer than the other... ) T3/r3/2011-06-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not really Wrilley Tech: did fiendish port his voting script over to mush? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: In MUSHclient, how do I reference a variable name in an alias? 0 knowledge of scripting :( T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Hey...my ASCII mapper randomly stopped working...so i reinstalled it and now it says it will appear once i start playing, but the map still appears in my main windows. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags"... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure global tags are On, and tags map is YES T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: ahhh thank you. global tags were not on :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Noob question: If I define a variable like CurrentHold in mushclient as whatever equip I'm currently holding, how can I reference that variable in an alias? like one to use a portal T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @CurrentHold T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and check the "expand variables" checkbox in the alias definition window T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Send("command " .. GetVariable("variable"))? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or that. :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli is learning MUSH a bit, too. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I'll try those, thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: #LOG T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: #LOG T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sorry for the spam :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: test T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: hmm... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody know if you can escape out of a telnet session into a shell? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: all control characters seem to cut off my input / output to the server T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ctrl+z just kicked me out T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ssh lets me ctrl-z out of it T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: strange T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ^Z '\n' [1]+ Stoppedssh T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but if i try the escape to shell sequence on telnet it doesn't work T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: not saying that's a bad thing, but maybe it is if telnet over-ride's control sequences, or maybe it's a security measure that ssh doesn't take T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: (for the mysterious reason) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: every other application i recall using allows escape's T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if i ran telnet as root on a terminal though, it would hang my system unless i knew how to get out of it T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: not that i would T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Try ^] ' T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Try ^] '\n' ^z. To restart, FG the process, and issue the command 'mode'. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: thank you, i will T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I think telnet's default is to forward all keystrokes to the foreign host. Including ^Z. ^] is the default escape on most distro compiles I've seen, and drops telnet into command mode. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ah, i see, i will experiment after quest T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: well, i tried what you said, using the % T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ^ lol, now escape doesn't work T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ^] thing, which put me into a prompt using the z option to escape to shell T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but then i fg, issue the command mode and can't get back into the interactive game T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Is the current prompt 'telnet> ' T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it puts me into a connection window, but anything i type is lost and anything typed doesn't exist T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I ask 'cause I tested this. On a connection to some lesser mud. :P One sec, I'll try again. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's no i/o to the server T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Weak. Works for me. Sorry. :( T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so that's all you do, , type the ^] character in, hit enter, then escape to shell, fg the process and issue the command mode T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i wonder why i get different results T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: maybe different versions of telnet T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Hit the control character (for me, ^], or ctrl-]), hit enter (brings up the prompt 'telnet> '), escape. 'fg' brings telnet back in. 'mode' makes 'telnet> ' go away, and any IO from that is to/from the mud. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you know what's weird, i typed something in that lets me hit control characters now and it doesn't escape me T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it shows the control characters though, hnitting ctrol+z will show sa %z or ^\ backspace T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and hitting enter places a ^M T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Yikes. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ok, i've got to try again T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it works ok until i hit a special character T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i can't get back into i/o mode after doing that until i reconnect T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: mode line makes it so that backspace works T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: glad we had this discussion though, now i know how to get out of it T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: did they 64 bit x86 processors always have the ability to use base pointer addressing as a arguement to multiply into a register? imull 16(%rbp), %eax actually works T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i figured i would get an error there, cause it's not a imeediate, or plain memory address or plain register T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it is a memory address that is computed though, that must be why T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm not sure if i tried that on 32 bit x86, rather, but i might have and gotten an error T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: does it work there? i'm not sure how to assemble and link and run a 32 bit assembly program on 64 bit machine with gcc T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: just in case there was somebody who understands the x86 and x86-64 assembly stuff, i figured there might be - the reason i found it questionable is cause it has to first calculate the address stored in rbp with the offset of 16 and then look it up, that extra step i figured may have made the instruction invalid T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but it works, which is cool, cause it means less instruction's and i learned something T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: come to think of it, the movl instruction is alot like the imull instruction. so it does make sense that it would T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I'm both in awe and scared of what you might be working on that touches vanilla telnet MUD connection, background tasks, and assembler. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: nah, i just got another window opened and am trying to teach myself assembly language, from a big set of reference materials for 64 bit assembly language, and a guide on 32 bit assembly language T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think i know enough to be able to translate the guide into 64 bit assembly, i did ok so far T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i like to take apart computer program's so i can see how they operate and that includes thing's like an operating system, or even applications for it - it's a good hobby i think T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: then i like to be able to build my idea's if i have some into a program without wondering how they're actually being represented to the machine, so a nice understanding of assembly language makes that more possible T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and it's a pretty exact language with a minimal set of instruction's and stuff, which is a good base of knowledge to learn others from T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: is there an equivalent of navi bar for shortcut in mush client as those in zmud? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: basically to click and activate a command or commands etc T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: rightclick? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: anyone around that has some trigger knowledge for MUSH, that has a minute to help me possibly? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just downloaded the latest beta version of mushclient and I cannot see what I am typing... How do I enable the textbox? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you dragged the text box to be too small...put the mouse at the bottom until it's the up/down arrow and drag it back up T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I tried that... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I even moved my taskbar to show the full window T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than dragging it to be too small to see, there's no way to hide the input area to my knowledge...note that it's the top of 3 sections at the bottom of the screen...there's the status bar and the info bar below it...it's immeditely below the main output T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (well, and having it offscreen is another way to not see it, but that's pretty obvious) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, with the latest download from fiendish's site, I can't even keep the input area minimized...the second I start to type it pops up (must be part of gammon's change to where it auto-expands when you type more than a line) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: how can I program an #IF statement in cmud with multiple command for both the if and else statement T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: isn't it just #if foo {do one ; do two ; do three} {do one ; do two ; do three}? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it is preferable to go multi-line instead of using semicolon, but yes. Also, if you use the semicolon then you cannot have any spaces before or after it. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: also, proper syntax is important so you also need () around foo T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: #IF (evel > 87) {s;get crystal bag;hold crystal;enter T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: #IF (evel > 87) {s;get crystal bag;hold crystal;enter;dual dag;put crystal bag} {run dsw2new3se3s7e;enter hole;gt COORDINATES for Imperial Nation 23,4} T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in zmud, proper syntax is NOT important and has led to a pervasive MXit-quality standard of coding with people wailing and gnashing their teeth because their zmud code doesn't work so well in CMud. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: you see anything wrong with this statement? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nothing syntactical. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: but like I said, it's preferable to go with the multiline format. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: okay, I will try that T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so prolly not actually #sub...not using zugg stuff, I can only give pseudocode T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: now that I have it multi-line I'm getting the error msg unmatched braces...any ideas T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: does it matter that this is in a path? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oh, the setting you're working in would've been a useful bit of info. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing you can make it as an alias, and just have the path call the alias T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not sure it matters, since paths are a specialized form of alias. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't use paths myself, since I have an advanced pathwalking system that calculates the path based on mapper commands. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if he's going to do that, Abe, might as well just forget about the path altogether and put the whole thing in an alias. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: but if I use abe's idea it will remain consistant for all of my paths T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: figured he might be too used to the .path syntax, not sure if you can alias that way T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: that works, thanks abe T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: and thanks dokkar T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: question for cmudders. Imagine there was a customizable statusbar that let you have collapsible buttonbars. How many of these collapsible buttonbars would you expect to be a reasonable max? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'd say probably no more than three at the very max. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, three looks way too thin to me, and I'm on a 15" monitor and the main window is spanning perhaps 75% of the width. Guess I'll just stick with the 6 I have. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: was expecting answers of like 10 or more, heh T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli chuckles politely. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, I guess it really depends on how much lag there is involved. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If it didn't affect performance, then yeah, I'd say probably 10 or 15 at the absolute max. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Are you referring to a full bar of buttons? Or individual buttons itself? Maybe I misunderstood you. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If it's the latter, then I'm currently sporting 16. :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, basically I'm replacing the default statusbar with a button bar that does the same thing (plus extras, obviously). I'll be leaving the definition of the collapsible buttonbars to the user, so all I have to do is look for the user to click on the expand/collapse buttons T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is there a way to change a variable from Mush's command line? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Using the script prefix, you could do /varname = "whatever" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: client variable or Lua variable? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (If your varname is the lua one and your script prefix is /) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: client T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Dokkar. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so basically, I'm creating a system tray for cmud scripting. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You might experiment with 10 or so, then. That sounds like pretty awesome, the way you described it. :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: let's assume you have the scripting prefix set at "/" (not the default I don't think) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then you *could* do: /SetVariable ("foo", "bar") T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I type /variblename = 111 and it took me to recall. :/ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: set the scripting prefix in scripting config T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: guess I need to set the scripting prefix.. :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: or use the one that is set, which is /// or something like that T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i think its \\\ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: if you are planning to do a lot of setting variables, use can use the "var" module, which makes it easier T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: as in: / require "var" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then just: / var.foo = "bar" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no idea what that is. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: and you can then access them the same way, eg : / print (var.foo) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I used zMud, I could type anapot = wine and then go about my game. Mudlet didnt have anyway to do this, and it was mildly annoying to have to go into the variable confit screen every time I got a skill/spell/pot. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I used zMud, I could type @manapot = wine and then go about my game. Mudlet didnt have anyway to do this, and it was mildly annoying to have to go into the variable confit screen every time I got a skill/spell/pot. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well you could just make an alias to set like setmana wine T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You could probably do a script write up in MUSH to allow something like that, or even #VAR varname whatever. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Which puts that into the variable. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thats an idea.. and a good one too. setskill, setspell, setmanapot, etc T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yep, the client is more designed around setting up aliases for that sort of thing T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in zmud, that's still incorrect syntax and would completely overwrite the contents of the entire variable. Such a distinction wouldn't make itself obvious unless you were dealing with datarecord variables, though. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: however doing: /var.enemy = "kobold" isn't much more typing T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: wasn't an issue, I /wanted/ it overwritten T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Also I saw some stuff in Fiendish's release notes about scripting from the command line, haven't installed or looked at it though. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you could make an alias: = * then make it set variable %1 to %2 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: then I guess I will. :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you could make an alias: @* = * then make it set variable %1 to %2 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: too vague... would create all kinds of misc variables T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: er, didn't exactly that happen in zMUD? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: right, but let's say you wanted to set a single field of a datarecord. If you did @var.key = value, then @var would now only have a value of .key and the value of that key would be value. All your other fields would be gone. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: with the @ is better.. but then what about colorcodes? or use seomthign other hten @ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i never used datarecords. like I said, wasn't an issue for me T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I misstyped the double-@ - I meant with the @ at the start, and you could use a regexp to make sure it was @ followed by alphas and not other stuff T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: just make the alias match onf @ at the very start, presumably you don't use color codes there T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ahh.. like ^@ (.?) = (.?) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oops, missed the * T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ^@ (.*?) = (.*?) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes or @([A-Za-z]+) = (.+)$ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: er I meant: ^@([A-Za-z]+) = (.+)$ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, i understand the a-z stuff, but whats the +? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: one or more, so it doesn't match on nothing T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: so [a-z]+ matches at least one lower-case letter T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: + means one or more. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: of the previous character of course. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: at least? so I'd also need at least one capital letter? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: nah it's a-zA-Z that's all the chars T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: [A-Za-z] matches capital or lower case T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: could just as easily do \w T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: that'll match _ as well T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you probably want correct variable syntax, so more accurately: ([A-Za-z][A-Za-z0-9_]*) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so.. if I made an alias ^@([A-Za-z]+) = (.+)$ then I could type @manapot = wine and it would change my manapot varib T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so.. if I made an alias ^@([A-Za-z]+) = (.+)$ then I could type @manapot = wine and it would change my manapot varible to "wine"? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: what I had there did a non-optional leading letter plus optional letters/numbers/underscores T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (I hate when I get a semicolor instead of an 'l') T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: Cera yes with the right script, so send to script and do something like: SetVariable ("%1", "%2") T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: [A-Za-z] is same as a simple \w T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: nice idea Cera, I need to implement that :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thats so cool.. thanks, that will do exactly what I need. :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: right but I didn't want to confuse myself by trying to type backslashes T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: for more fun, have it trigger correctly and set mana potions when putting them into your container :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: hours of work to save moments of time T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I have a command /ppot/ that puts all.@manapot bag, put all.@hitpot bag, etc T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the moments add up and you might learn something ;) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it didn't work. :( T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: things never do the first time ... but it will XD T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: did it not match, or not do what you wanted when it matched? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: trigger is ^@([A-Za-z]+) = (.+)$ and Send To is SetVariable ("%1", "%2") sent to script. When I typed @canquest = 111 I got a "you can't do that cera from the mud, and no change in the variable. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It can't access the global variables T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: first, you want an alias not a trigger T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: duh. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it can access them, i mean, but not change them T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fixing... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: I'm assuming this is a world trigger, in which case it can change world variables T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you are right, a plugin trigger can't (or not easily anyway) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: these are variables I created and are stored inthe variale screen, last item in the Game->Configure->All Configuration screen T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yep, and an alias in the world configuration can change those T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this whole bit about lua. globla, world variable is a bit confusing. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: unfortunately because of incremental enhancements, but you can watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1mOh5NjY7U T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this whole bit about lua. globla, world variable is a bit confusing. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: watched the video.. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it said the keyboard shortcut for accessing the client variable was alt-enter, which doesnt work for me. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but command-enter does. that's helpful. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: is this a Mac? might be slightly different there T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeppers, mac T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh.. the @ and the = but have to be escaped out. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this worked... ^\@(.*?) \= (.*?)$ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: some regexp stuff has to be, but did you check "expand variables"? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so changing back to the a-z stuff T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no, but it worked T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: good, because you don't want to T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: this should work: ^\@([A-Za-z][A-Za-z0-9_]*) \= (.+)$ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, i'll try T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, i'll trytech your slashes are backards I think T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, i'll trytech your slashes are backards I thinktech no they are right T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: let me try the alias ... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no they are right T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that worked. sweet T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: oh good - and for confirmation add a line: Note "Variable %1 set to %2" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: now, anyone have a link where I can find info on the syntax and structure of IF/ELSEIF/THEN statments I can use in the SendTo box for a trigger? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: or ColourNote ("white", "blue", "Variable %1 set to '%2'") T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: good idea on the note T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if (check this for validity) then do this if true else print ("this is false") end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: that's basically all there is. if CHECK FOR TRUE then DO THIS IF TRUE else DO THIS IS NOT TRUE end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: which client version do you have? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: uh yeah. I got the concept.. but is it = or ==, does the variable have to be in quotes, use () or <> or that stuff? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: == for check, = for assignment T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 4.75, r1079 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Variable in quotes? what do you mean. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: It's in the help file, also here: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_syntax T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if @vairable = 1 then Send("stuff") Elseif Send("Different stuff") T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you need quotes if they are string variables T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: =f T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if (getVariable("variable") == 1) then print("The value IS 1.") else print("The value is NOT 1.") end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: GetVariable* T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: so: if "oo" == "bar" then Send "stuff" else Send "otherstuff" end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that's the stuff I need to know. :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: so: if "@foo" == "bar" then Send "stuff" else Send "otherstuff" end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: be cautious Cheezburger because GetVariable always returns strings, and thus you will never get == 1 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tonumber(Getvariable("variable")) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: aye T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: GetVariable is the capitalization - pressing Shift+Tab on the command line completes words with that done right T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, i typod T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that's the stuff I need to know. :)tech -h T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: damnnit T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: browse the supplied plugins for examples T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tab completion for me doesn't work with words like that, considering i don't use mush :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: good point T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: era the inbuilt help (which hopefully works on a Mac) usually has examples T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lol, almost missed that because of the color change :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: @@ to print @ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yeah I keep forgetting T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok.. one more.. (for now). everytime I leave the window, or if I shift the focus to another miniwindow, I lose the highlight on my commandline, which means whatever was there before stays there, and then when I go to type something, it just gets added on the end. You've seen several examples on this channel recetnly. how do I stop that? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: turn out-repeat off? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Make it erase after you hit enter and just hit the up arrow to get back to it T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no that has a bigger downlisde. :( T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well, then you'll just have to be more conscious of what's on your command line T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: there's an option "escape deletes typing" you could enable that and then hit Esc T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: guess so. ok, thanks. going to work on what I needed teh if/then info for T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but down arrow does the same, but I forget to do that. I want the highlighting to no go away T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: ah I see I think ... you have it selected, click somewhere else and click back is that it? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: the answer is to not click back, press Tab instead. That puts the focus back on the command window without changing the selection T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: can you do this? SetVarible ("totalrewards", tonumber(Getvariable("myTier")) + tonumber(Getvariable("MCCP"))) if MyTier is 4, and MCCP is 2, then will you get totalrewards = 6? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Your parens are way off. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: dont see how.. I counted, twice. but will you get 6? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you have to spell GetVariable right otherwise you will get a syntax error - it is case sensitive T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: My mistake - they are good. But you'll want Getvariable to be GetVariable. And SetVarible to be SetVariable. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, cap G T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and dont forget the a in variable.. and I'll get 6? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you should get 6 if you get the brackets right T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there are no brackets in that statement. just parens. :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: let me try T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: () <- parens [] <- brackets T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Why are you asking, anyways? Run the command. That's the best test for a particular script working or not. :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: because its part of a larger script.. I cant really just run part of it. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: that's what scripting on the command line is good for T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That line, you certainly could. Ctrl-I to open the immediate window, or use a script prefix. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I guess I could make someone up real quick to test it... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have a class on cmud where I create vars and craps to test syntaxes T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: for addition Lua automatically converts to numbers, so this works, I just tested it: SetVariable ("totalrewards", GetVariable ("mytier") + GetVariable ("mccp")) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: but if you do this: require "var" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then it all becomes simpler T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: where's the mytier coming from? If it's from the base gmcp, you might get 9+x, which might mess up any tier aspects of a calculation. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: for example: var.totalrewards = var.mytier + var.mccp T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no its a client variable which is currently set to 4. and MCCP which is always set to 2. but I'm getting "nil" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: show the line again? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: SetVariable ("totalrewards", GetVariable ("myTier") + GetVariable ("MCCP")) print (totalrewards) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: and if you look at the variables in world configuration it has 4 in it? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: the MCCP one I mean? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I just double checked, MCCP, and myTier are set and I'm getting "nil" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brackets - you are using the word brackets in the American way ... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: everything's better in America. :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cept you don't have proper football T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sure we do, we just do american football better T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: of /course/ I'm using it in the American way, I AM American. :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm just giving you a hard time, I knew what you meant. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: but I'm not receiving it the American way :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: just kidding you T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but why am I getting "nil" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Major League Soccer, I think we also have a couple other leagues, and soccer is a major scholastic sports/little league institution to rival that of the rest of the world's attitude towards soccer. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: does the function return 0 on success? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: type out: print (GetVariable ("MCCP")) and tell use what you get T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: assignment operator's typically return the result of the assignment, but that doesn't look like an operator really T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i got 2 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: so what gives you nil? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: SetVariable ("totalrewards", tonumber(GetVariable("myTier")) + tonumber(GetVariable("MCCP"))) when I do a print totalrewards T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: show me your print totalrewards T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: print (totalreards) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: print (totalrweards) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: uh no T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i spelled it right T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: print GetVariable("totalrewards") too? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: there are two sorts of variables and you have confused them T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: what Druzil said T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: client variables are saved in the world file, and you have to use GetVariable and SetVariable on them T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: Lua variables only persist for this session and you just use them "naked" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if you try just print(total rewards) it might try to parse total rewards as a string, the GetVariable would force the string to be parsed as a variable symbol T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you need: print (GetVariable ("totalrewards")) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i got this on four lines: Compile error World: Aardwolf Immediate execution [string "Immediate"]:2: '=' expected near 'GetVariable' T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: it's not the parsing per se, it's what variable you want: client or Lua T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: you need: print (GetVariable ("totalrewards")) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: print is a function call, so you must put brackets after it, as in: print (something) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, i got 6!! T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: cool T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so.. anytime I want to use a client var, I need GetVariable, and it automatically makes it a number or string? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: or does it know that 2 is a number and "hi" is a string? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: well it is always a string - but Lua will coerce it into a number if you try to do arithmetic onit T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh sweet. an intelligent script T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: so "2" + "3" will give 5 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: best to use tonumber really, if that is what you mean T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: otherwise this will fail: if "0" == 0 then ... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: but this works: if tonumber ("0") == 0 then ... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: comparison doesn't count as "arithmetic" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: canI set the nonumber once at the begining for all the variables or do I need it each time I use the var? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nonumber = tonumber T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: when you do a SetVariable it is *always* stored as a string, and thus GetVariable *always* returns a string T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: personally I would turn them into Lua variables at the start of a script section, eg. hp = tonumber (GetVariable ("hp)) ... then use "hp" from them on T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: see, I think SetVariable ("varname", 0) sound be a number, while SetVariable ("varname", "0") would be a string. but no one asked me. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: missed a quote there, but you see the idea T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: no, they both get stored as strings T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: client variables are strings. end of story T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this is all related to quests, so I could use Lua variables. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: for a single session you can stick to Lua variables - just be aware that next time you use the client (from scratch) they have all gone T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you could probably then initialize them all whenver you connect, or save the value's to a file before exiting to reload next time around T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: its to report my q rewards to grouptalk T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: so something that only just arrived? then Lua variables are all you need T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I'd just post a note demanding 'qtrack' be just like dtrack personally, then everyone can have it. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ironfist Razor smiles happily. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: if I use lua vars, do I need a different line of additions for each IF to avoiding adding a var that doesnt exist (for example, one for double qp)? or will it just ignore that? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: no it won't ignore it T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: just a bit of careful prep and all should be well T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: eg. doubleqp = doubleqp or 0 <--- that initializes to zero if it doesn't exist T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: then I've got a problem. will.. If vanthatdoesntexistbeeucaseitdidnthappenthisquest == ture return false if it doesnt exist? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh.,. that helps T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: or you can do: if not doubleqp then doubleqp = 0 end ... but that is a bit wordier T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh.,. that helpsct *bonk lornac T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in ZMud, that varied depending on the variable. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ops T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: see, qtrack is a bad idea, nobody listens to me, not even enough to tell me to shut up :( T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Razor, there are many people who have, over the years, writted quest trackers, why would a gmae based qtrack be a bad idea? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: like, if was not supplied in an alias argument list then null was different than false. With the multistate parameters (...), if a value for the corresponding ... variable was empty, ... skipped over that subpattern and was assigned the next non-empty one. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I'm being silly, because my previous comment on this channel go no response. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: like, if %1 was not supplied in an alias argument list then null was different than false. With the multistate parameters (%t1...%t99), if a value for the corresponding %1...%99 variable was empty, %t1...%99 skipped over that subpattern and was assigned the next non-empty one. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i didnt notice it was on here, I thought it was on ft and was to the people on your ft that arent on mine. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: well my mind boggled on: vanthatdoesntexistbeeucaseitdidnthappenthisquest T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i need a differnt report sting when I have lucky qp, or durring the (rare) double qp, but with Lua vars, then those vars wouldnt exist most of them time, so how can I do an if statement on them? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: unless I set them as false at the begining of every quest, then change if it happens... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: @Cera I would read up on tables - you can set a table to empty at the start of a quest T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: then the things inside it (what it contains) are all effectively nil until you set them (nil and false are similar) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, tables... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: umm... the first two lines on the table pages says... Tables implement associative arrays. That is, arrays of key/value pairs. The keys and values can be any type, except nil. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: gonna keep reading... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: keep going, really they are fabulously useful T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so off my quest start trigger I can create a table will all my quest related vars. that's cool. set them them all to 0 to start with, so I would only need one totalrewards math function, weather there are lucky qp that quest or not. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: yes and you could just create an empty table even - and assume that non-existent variables are false (which they will appear to be anyway) or zero T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: so for example: myquest = {} ; if myquest.completed then ... blah blah ... end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: since myquest.completed doesn't exist, it appears to be false to Lua T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, so no == needed? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i like that T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if the return value is anything but false, nil, or 0, then it'll return true T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: any variable on its own is considered true unless it contains nil or false T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: or 0 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: not zero T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: you sure? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: try this: if 0 then print "hi" end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: very very sure - this isn't C T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, will do once lua finishes installing via aptitude :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I stand corrected T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if are boolean operator's i think, they just test if something exists or not, like if you did if (SetVariable ("y", why), and y was set to equal why, the setvariable function did it's job, and it's common for functions to return 0 on success - so the if (setvariable) would evaluate to false, if you put a not operator before that, it would evaluate to true, if the assignment succeeded, cause that's what not does, 0 become's 1, the successful assignment would then cause the statement { } to be executed after the conditional T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: every possible value, including tables, numbers etc. are all considered true, except: nil and false T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: in alot of scripting languages it seems, "", "\0", 0 are all the same, and by context are interpreted as numbers or string's, those would all equal 0 T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You'd use assert for tyhat T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: that* T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if (assert(SetVariable("x", "y")) then blah end T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Druzil is really smart. (he also goes way over my head) (*grin*) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: if you try: print (not 0) --> it prints false (since 0 is considered true, then not true is false) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrilawen Tech: C, C++, PHP work differently I agree T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: programming: where two wrongs DO make a right. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: not true T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: programming: where every right has a thousand paths. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm going afk, don't say anything else useful until I get back. :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I think I might have broke my character trying to install some plugins. Heh. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Could anyone with any experience in Bast's plugins possibly tell me how installing them on one computer could affect your character on another...? With things such as spellups and item drops? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they can't, unless you install them there too T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I haven't. This computer doesn't have any plugins, but I keep getting prompts like {affoff T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: {affoff}[spellnumber] when a buff falls off, for instance* T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tags spelltags off T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, the plugin turns on spelltags T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: And I assume there would be some of those for items, as well? I'm just curious because I'm using this computer while I try to figure out why I can't get bast's plugins to work on my other. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why not just work on getting the plugins to work in the first place? :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I tried, but when I was installing them at the time, I didn't get much help, other than being told that installing them was so-called "idiotproof" and I proved it wrong :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I went to the store to find a book on Lua.. the only one they had was specific to making AddOns for WOW. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Programming in Lua is free at pil.org T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: go vis lasher, we want to finger you :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: pil.org? i've tried lua.org but found that pretty confusing. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ... um wut? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lua-users.org is pretty good too. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: with an offer like that how could I refuse. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Level 210 Male Human Venomist (Tier 9+999)... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: err, I meant lua.org, sorry. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: wonder if anyone will ever get to 9+999 by actually re-doing the tier that many times.. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: yowza if anyone T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Even yowza only has 29 redos T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: being realistic, Lasher will probably shut down Aard long before then T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: exactly T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (*sigh*) lets not think about or dwell on such a sad reality. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: retire from it maybe T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: no need to shut it down unless absolutely nobody wants to run it. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You can give the MUD to me then! T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: would be a great motivator for developing Lasher 2.0, though. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: (and your computer and whatever you run it on) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: you could probably even sell it, Lasher :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Doubt it T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'd buy it T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sell it to EA, who can charge us $50 a day for the privilage T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the marketing types here might even be able to sell it up as a reality show on one of the major networks. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: then nuke half the mud and give it away :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: It wouldn't be a good return on time in purely financial terms T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nonono.. i fear whoever would buy it, they are more likey looking to profit from it. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: so would have to be someone already here T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hmmm. privilige, even T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: or someone who thinks they could convert it into a bigger business T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Aard is business? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: there has to be a handful of rich ....people... who play this game with a level of passion... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no aard is life. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat rapidly nods twice at Siren Cera, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I would think in terms of re-use or any real value to a game company our lua integration would be the most interesting part. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Aard is life, the rest is just details. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: which I'm trying to learn! T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I bot IRL so i can play aard. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Lasher! join laser :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: now that would be funny T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: www.pil.org is not a site. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: trying lua-users.org T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Cera: he corrected himself. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I would like to see lasher's lstat T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it'd probably go something like this: male/father, middle-aged or nearing so, loves mudding... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oh, wait, you mean lashertag stats... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol...lashertag :-) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: wow Rumour is so much lazier than Lasher, he's t9-0! :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ummm... she? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, being Lasher, he probably wouldn't even try going on the offensive just to make sure it was a nice game. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: oh, well, she then :p T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: there's no command to set redos, I just hand-edited that in, so other imms are 0 :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Okay, so I'm trying to figure out these "idiotproof" installs of Bast's plugins, and it's already screwing up on me. Again. =/ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 'screwing up on me' is not an accurate enough description of your problem for us to help you... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if it's all too much for you, i have a very simple spellup plugin.. one file.. no setup T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I've completely uninstalled and reinstalled the base MUSHClient, cleaned out all the folders in the process. Re-downloaded the .zip file from Bast's site. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you drop Bast's plugins into the world>plugins folder? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Dragged the folder and all that to the plugins directory. Booted up the new MUSHClient, and installed exactly one plugin - the bast_spellup one - and now, I get constant spam of "Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yes, exactly where I put it. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: And Winkle, I appreciate the offer - I'll keep you in mind if I can't get this to work. Been trying for two days now on two different computers, ugh. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lulz: Reinstall the bastspellup T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Reinstalled. Spam is still continuing, though I'm not sure if you want me to log out and back in or not. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload bsst T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type that out exactly to see what happens. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Typd it out, it reloaded the xBroadcast_SpellSkills. Aaaand so far the spam seems to have stopped. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The plugin itself doesn't seem to be working, though. My spellups are working as if nothing was installed at all. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: someone mentioned that whoever it was who said pil.org corrected themselves.. what the right address? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lua.org... or tech -h T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lua.org T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tech -h, it'll help you from asking questions that have been answered. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera rolls her eyes. I looked, and missed it the second time. So I asked. And thank you. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what is the correct name for a program that you use to write code in, that will use colors to highlight the different parts according to syntax? I wanna do a search ofr one for a mac T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rotsisnart Nocilis Tech: ide T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: a text editor with syntax highlighting? :P T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: IDE, or Integrated Developing/Development Environment T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't think they have a special name... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rotsisnart Nocilis Tech: eclipse or xcode for mac T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Notepad++ is free, and does that. :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Don't know about Mac, though. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's a kind of application, but there's no standard of naming. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: notepad++, emacs, nano, vi, etc T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Eclipse is free too T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Notepad++ is great. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Notepad++ is great, but nothing like Microsoft Visual Studio Ultimate T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so i'm using the function LUA/mush function string.dump which says it will "Converts a function into binary".. however when i try adn run the example i get the error.. "cannot dump functions" .. is this a bug or what? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Well, just because you got that free doesnt mean people have to spend $10k on it... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: two different types of apps, though. MSVS is an IDE, while Notepad++ is just a highlighting editor. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I dont think its worth 10k realy T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: True, but MSVS has the features of Notepad++ T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Nope, its missing one feature T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Ofcourse. Its not worth the money T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: FREEANDOPENSOURCENESS> T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger snickers with BobTheGreat about their shared secret. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Mine was free :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: AND legal T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how'd you get it legally? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Student copy, likely. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: MS academic alliance for one T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Microsoft had a contract with the CTE department at our school T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Yep T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Though its not Student version T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Ultimate 2010 for free T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they upgraded from learning, or whatever they used to give students? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, i get free crap via Devry's alliance with microsoft T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Dokkar: yeah T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: They also give free OS T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: great for you, but that sucks. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PastamanT ) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Only to students who take the right courses at the CTE department though T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: So its not like the whole school gets it, only the 100 students who take the classes T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Computer programming, Marketing, and similar programs. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: Yeah, I got mine through an IT course T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they only gave out the learning editions when I was going. I already knew those were total crap with lacking features, so I went out and got Basic/Pro for my own use. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: I got Win7 Ultimate, XP for an old computer, MSVS 2010 Ultimate = Pwnage T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: They were also offering Vista, but ... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: did you download SQL Server as well? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: should've got it. If you ever get a job anytime soon, you're going to be the lucky noob who has to troubleshoot it. :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm...anyone remember the program that duckbat wrote to organize eq? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do you stick a wildcard in an item in a table? questqp.qmob = %2 isn't working. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sent to script T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Quote the variable, i.e. "%2" T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if that's lua, i think you want questqp[mob]... T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so try [] around the table item and quotes around the wildcard, ok T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: You can use either, Myrkul. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, ok T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: in lua table[key] is the same as table.key (where key is a string at least, never tried with a number). T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: lasher told me once what the command was to reset your qtimer on the test port, but I cant remmebre it, anyone know? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Q reset? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: qreset? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: qreset self T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nope, nope, and nope. :( T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: there is a helpfile with all the commands available to testers. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yep, but it's not here. :) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, the quotes fixed that last issue, now I'm getting this error message [string "Trigger: "]:1: unfinished string near '" )' when it tries to send this line (sent to script) SendNoEcho("gt Quest Mob:" .. questqp.qmob .. " - room:" .. questqp.qroom .. " - area:" .. questqp.qarea .. " ) any ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: remove the last quote before the ) T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme nods. T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, it worked. :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: SQL question. How do I test for not null in a sql query? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: "AND foo IS NOT NULL" T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Will try that. Thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmm.. didn't seem to work. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: foo != NULL works in sqlite3, though the ANSI standard is IS NOT NULL T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: let me test something T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: SELECT * FROM [table] WHERE [foo] IS NOT NULL; should work. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I was wrong != NULL doesn't work because this is not an equality check is a state check. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: Where can I download more plugins? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: more plugins than what? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: where can i download GqBot v2.31? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: Fiendish, your replys are so um timely :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Redryn IS GqBot v2.31 T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if i want to get gmcp room number in mushclient, would it be more efficient to pull it with a getpluginvariable if i have another plugin that knows it, or write another onpluginbroadcast thing for the gmcphandler to broadcast? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know a good sampler video to test a surround sound system? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: 5.1 T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: anyone know when android apps will be available on PB, blackberry app store? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Any MUSH heads out there trying to make an alias to start Basts auto hunt T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: sent it to script, got this error. Compile error T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then whatever you're sending to script isn't valid script code T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Send to script just means "do all this stuff like it's a script" T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: where should I send it, the command to start the auto hunt script is... bh auto , T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: send to execute T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ahh thanks T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: send to execute is just like if you typed it in the command line yourself T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I see, thanks. Helped me alot :p T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How long does it take for icecubes to freeze? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: depends on how cold it is! T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nod, to many variables, water quality to T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Normal sized icecubes (2*2*2cm or s) in a normal freezer (-18 celcius) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just looking for a ballpark figure (2 hours, 10 hours, 24 hours) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Planning a party :/ T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can buy a bag of 20 lbs of ice for a few dollars at most stores :p T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not in Sweden. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh :) i would guess a few hours, more to be safe though T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I'll check in 2,4,6, 8 hours. Party planning, the geek way. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone running cmud on a mac? or how easy wine is to instill on macs T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have easy instructions for getting wine on a mac in the aardwolf mushclient package online guide T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux#How_do_I_install_Wine_on_a_Mac? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i like how that url ends with a ? like it's a question T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it IS a question T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: That's what he likes T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's kind of what the Q is in FAQ T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh i assumed it was query string delimiter T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's "how do I install wine on a mac?" T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: wine can be installed via Fink T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: installing wine via fink is a pain in the ass that requires installing dev tools T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my link shows the absolute simplest method T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle wears his dubious aura :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol.. it IS a quest string delimiter! T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a question T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: query string i mean T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not in this case T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: surely the ? would have to be escaped to be counted as part of the url T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's an anchor tag T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hence the # T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also there's no such thing as escaping in urls T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can urlencode to %, but you don't escape things T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well i'll be.. you're right T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: escape/urlencode .. apples/apples T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: except not T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: similar goal, perhaps, but semantically different T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you change the ? to a %3f it works.. so the browser is doing smart urlencoding ont he fly on that ? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's no more true than saying that your brain is doing smart urlencoding on the text that goes into your eyeballs T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even though when I see %20 I suddenly think "oh a space" T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well i learnt a little of the order of querystrings and jump anchors in a url... you cna't have the querystring after the #bookmark.. it must be before.. i hadn't experimented enought with those to know the fine difference.. it looks like ? is ok in a #bookmark .. in querystring it'd have to encoded T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there a way to see a cmdline in this new mush distro? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's at the bottom of the screen T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ahhhh ok when i started it up it wasnt visable :) thx T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: fiend it was probably because of a desktop toolbar placed on top of my screen i have so it must of was hidden under the task bar is my guess nothing major :p T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Any MUSH heads out there, trying to make this trigger work. I have The 2 Begginning words of the trigger but the rest need to be random. What do I put after the two words to allow for randomness? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: * T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: wow, as easy as that huh. Thanks T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul gallantly tips his hat. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: hi, i have an issue. i am trying to download the mud client from the web site T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the problem? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: well: You are not permitted to download the file "Aardwolf-Mud-MUSHclientr1040.zip". T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sounds like maybe a firewall or something, would be my guess. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try downloading from here... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: the same :( T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: You are not permitted to download the file "MUSHclient.zip". T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Are you at work? School? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it sounds like your computer is blocking you T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If it's not your computer, you might not have permissions from IT to download things. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: no i have all the permissions T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Apparently not. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/files/MUSHclient.zip <- if this download link doesn't work, then you don't have all the permissions :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: let me try proxying or something T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Proxying won't do anything. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If it's saying you don't have permission to download, that's most likely an admin right restricted by your IT dept. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: well i want to ssh to my server, then wget the thing, then winscp to this crappy laptop i have to use :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: hmm weird T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: maybe the hotel wireless is blocking downloads. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it's possible T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Contact the hotel manager and ask, then? :p T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I find that hard to believe T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: yeah and tell him that i can't download a mush client, but i can ssh to my server and wget it? :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: just ask him if downloads are restricted on their wireless. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: but like fiendish said, it's unlikely.' T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: well ssh+wget+winscp work T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: peculiar T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: yes. there is only one line in that error mesage T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: < HTML> < BODY> < h2>High security alert!!!< /h2> < p>You are not permitted to download the file "MUSHclient.zip".< /p> < p>URL = http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/files/MUSHclient.zip< /p> < /BODY> < /HTML> T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: high security! hehe T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Oh nos! T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: so i guess it is a script kiddie working as it support for a hotel :)E> T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: yeah, because you downloading something onto your computer is a high risk to the hotel... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: "Hey boss, look what I can do!" -- "Cool, now get back to work." T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: probably :) anyway, i "cracked" their security now, lets see your work fiendish :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: no install, just run? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: correct T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: cool, wish i had my usb thing around... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: can you make a public folder structure so i can rsync everything but the private config to my dropbox as you work? :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: and does it work on linux too? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can check out the subversion repository as a guest T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, I use it in linux T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm using Wine 1.1.42 T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because of a just recently fixed but probably not downstreamed problem in the intel graphics driver T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: i can type in any window? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zlayer ) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: hmtech mm T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: no echo T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: that an option or something? i can't see what i'm typing T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you can't see what you'r typing then the input bar is hidden or off the screen somehow T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try maximize/unmaximize mushclient T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sometimes users report a weird quirk when starting for the first time, probably because of the .ini file I have in there T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I've never been able to reproduce the problem T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: well willing to help debug :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cool T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: max/unmax didnt help T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: zlay change resolution T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: of the scrieen? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: aardmush cant even maximize properly for me at 1027 and below T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: err 1024* T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's an easily fixable problem T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but lower than 1024xwhatever is just small T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL nods. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's hard to fit everything into tight spaces T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yep T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: well screen resolution change helped T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: your welcome :P T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zlayer ) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i recall i ran into it once was very odd glitch T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I opened up a new world yesterday in MUSH to log into the test port, I was in here and there at the same time. Today I open up MUSH, and it loads the test port only. I can't seem to find my settings for this port. so I create a new one.. import my settings and whatnot, and now I'm missing the mapper screen (the in-game ascii version), the group tracker, and the score info screen. are there commands to bring them b ack? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: next time don't click yes when it asks you if you want to preload settings T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also what did you name the new world? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, and for this time? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: AardwolfTestPort vs Aardwolf for this one. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well you'll need to go and load all the plugins back, I guess T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: according to the plugin screen, they are already loaded.. I tried to reinstall one of them, and it did that, but hte window didn't show T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are they enabled? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: plugin screen says yes T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: an interesting problem T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let me try... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you said there are commands to hide them, what are the ones to show them? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: typically the opposite of hiding T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which one in particular? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the ascii mapper, the group monitor, and the score one T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try groupon T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nothing T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i just thought of a killer plugin.. you press a key it it overlays all the windows and looks like an excel spreadsheet :P T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then surely that isn't the problem T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish gives WinkleWinkle a nod, saying, "OK". T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: a boss button? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. currently i use auto hto key to overlay the window with outlook T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: alt-tab workes too.. :p T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is employee of hte month... not T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Boss buttons are for those who are supposed to be working, so when the boss comes around, pressing the boss button makes it look like you're working. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fiendish, maybe removing then readding them T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: alt-tab only works if the window you wnat is next in queue T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zlayer Tech: then there should be an option to add your own screenshots to the boss buttons :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see the nature of the problem now T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you see the nature of MY problem? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh. cool. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imo it's a mistake in mushclient to not create a new file with choosing "yes" T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: rather it clobbers the old world file T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that is BAD. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I should probably make better default positions for miniwindows anyway T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I got two thingys for you.. (bugs maybe) my command line dosent autosize when I type beyond one line. (it sis once, a couple of days ago, but not since). T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you might have disabled the feature T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the auto resizing is actually an option in the world file T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and my healt bar plugin no longer has to options to change the hitpoints changing colors at 40 and 20%. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, ok, I'll go look for it. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: where would I find that? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think I added the hp thresholds to the health bar monitor, only the group monitor T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh.. you're right. sorry T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on. I'm going to submit this world file thing as a bug report to Nick T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok this is weird... I removed statmon, groupmon, and asciimap. then I added them back. only one to show was group one, and it dissappeared when I re-added statmon. I remove statmon, and groupie comes back. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm sorry for this drastic measure, but I'm going to have to ask you to re-download the package. If you want to make a new world for the test port click "No" when it asks if you want to preload settings. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've reported this problem to nick T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: is it atleast one beyone r1079? or that one again? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just put up 1085 a little bit ago T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (*yeah*) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'll be back soon... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: got everything back.. now to redo my colors and my layout. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: great. sorry about this inconvenience T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I have this irritating "problem" with my laptop. Compaq thought it would be a great idea to map the Function keys (F1 - F12) as functions/commands such as brightness, media buttons, sound, etc. That means if I want to press F1, I have to hold down the fn key and press F1. I haven't found a configuration option to switch it around, so short of remapping the keyboard, anyone have any solutions? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, Mac has that too, but there's a setting that I can switch it, so the Fn key is required for those funtions. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but it still has control of my F8. can't figure out how to turn that one off. maybe call compaq? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: Dell has done that as well on some laptops.. extremely irritating when you're used to pressing F2 to edit / rename. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Jalarai. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: are you kidding? F2 is /cas heal/ LOL T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dell at least has the f# as default, and the fn-fkey is the alternate T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jalarai chuckles at Siren Cera's joke. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: not on my wife's lappy, Abe. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: My Toshiba has the same concept of F# for default and fn-fkey for functions. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: mine is switchable in the bois for that T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's what I'm used to - F# for default. But apparently, Compaq says 'Let's screw people's normalcy!' T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: friends do't let friends buy compaq, hp or dell T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Dell is the least of those evils. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: now it is T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: toshiba, Acer, or Asus, ftw T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: my HPs work fine T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Actually, I would not buy another toshiba lappie. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Mine was crap. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: toshiba is crap T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'm not a big fan of my Toshiba laptop, either. I'd gladly switch to Acer or Asus if I could. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Acer or Asus, I'm with you. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Friends don't let friends buy emachines, either... :P T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Lol i have compaq T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: The only reason my asus netbook won't work is because I pratfell and broke the screen. Once I have 60 bucks for a new screen, I can use it again. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've had good luck with dell laptops at work...had older inspirons when I started, had d600, d800, d810, d820, d830 and now e6510 T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, before I go and re-do basts plugins.. the right order is minitab, then minievents,then the broadcasts I want? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than the staff who treat the laptop as a desktop (NEVER undock) who fry the batteries, they've been good to us T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: Same here Abe, I took a gamble on Dell some years ago.. We're all Dell now (approx 150 machines) and to be honest we haven't had that many issues.. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Cera, I can't answer anything about the broadcasts, but when I installed his plugins on my laptop, the order was tab first, then events, yes. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I got spoiled with the battery life on the d830...the 6510's battery life blows (although we got them pimped out with i7 and a real graphics card) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i love my toshiba satellite l655 T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Hey, you have the same computer I do, Cheezburger :D T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the main problem with all the computers ya'll are talking about is that they are all window machines. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Mine's linux T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't run windows on my laptops T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dread Lord Morinon aims the Whack-a-Troll machine at Siren Cera...you pity her. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I've got plenty of non-windows machines at home T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh, smart people! T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I only use Windows, I'm not smart enough for the other kinds :( T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though windows tends to get better battery life than linux by a rather significant amount T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: old 68k Macs, PPC Macs, alphastation & ultrasparcs T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I prefer mac, but anything other then windows is good T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I keep a dual boot of win7 simply for gaming purposes. Playing games under wine is never as good. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i honestly get a lot of love from my windows box T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only computer I've left as a linux box was an odd ppc Mac that yellow dog ran on which NetBSD didn't :P T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's unusual for hardware to run on linux and not NetBSD, but Apple was supporting yellow dog at the time }:> T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: man.. I got this working yesterday, but it didn't save. :( alias is this: ^\.*?) \= (.*?)$ sent to script is this... SetVariable("%1", "%2") print("Variable %1 is now set to %2) and when I send anapot = spirits i get this error..... [string "Alias: "]:2: unfinished string near '' ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: man.. I got this working yesterday, but it didn't save. :( alias is this: ^\@(.*?) \= (.*?)$ sent to script is this... SetVariable("%1", "%2") print("Variable %1 is now set to %2) and when I send @manapot = spirits i get this error..... [string "Alias: "]:2: unfinished string near '' ideas? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: missing a clsoing bracket or quote probably T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: your print statement is missing an ending " T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks. i jsut couldnt see it T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, working now T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ataxia Tech: hmm so my antivirus is blocking every website T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Seems I can't find a keymapper decent enough for this laptop keyboard. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: anyone found a way to make aard/phone client beep? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Depends on the client, wouldn't it? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: Android T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: And what's 'a disturbance'? Is the lesbian couple making the other customers talking to sales reps of the photo place uncomfortable 'a disturbance'? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Sorry. Wrong channel. :P T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: any Aardwolf Mushclient trigger gurus around? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just ask your question, if someone can answer it, then they will T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: I want to set a trigger to stomp an enemy each round automatically, instead of having to type it over and over, but I can't seem to get the trigger to work T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's illegal here T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Might want to read help botting first :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: instead of triggers, you could do macros. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Your best bet is to setup a macro so that you can type a key and it'll stomp. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I agree with both Dokkar and Mendaloth T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not sure what alternative options to macros Mush has, but you could do something like a clickable link or a button. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: what use then are triggers? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: such things, barring some generic plugin that automates adding such things, would be a lot more complicated than doing a macro, however. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: data-mining and formatting T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and for doing any of the exceptions mentioned in help botting while AFK. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: maybe I'm reading this wrong, but according to 'help botting', paragraph 1, "Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without any direct interaction from you", the trigger I'm trying to set up would still require me to type 'stomp' to get it started and each round continue stomping. They still consider this botting? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, because you could leave your computer and the stomping would still continue T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes. That paragraph means you can only type STOMP and expect to get one trigger fire out of it before the trigger either disappears or stops working. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: well, technically, the same is true for a macro T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not an imm, they obviously have the final word on botting - but keep reading especially the part about "If you are unsure of whether or not triggers you have made would be considered botting, ask yourself, "If I suddenly had to leave the screen.... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: technically it is not, a macro only works once T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: I could have a macro with 10 instances of stomp and leave the computer... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: same thing, yes? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: spamming is also borderline illegal T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, but the macro has a built-in expectation of only doing one command or otherwise getting to an endpoint. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ahh, the stacking commands argument, not the same thing, you did something to stack the commands, where a trigger reacts to an event from the mud and automatically enters a command T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: macros can be written to enter multiple commands one at a time sans stacking. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: it had better not be, especially when it takes that many rounds to kill something T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: you're telling me that I can't cast 'heal' 20 times without getting spam warning? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: or kick 10 times? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: stacking commands is also illegal in the arena of combat, yes T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: GEEZ! what do you guys use macros and triggers for? picking up a disarmed weapon and that's it? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that is a very common trigger, actually T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I use triggers to fix all the little display mistakes Lasher has littered this game with, such that what he does in 5 or 6 whole screens I'm doing in just 1/4th of a screen. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I also use triggers to handle aardwolf's time system T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: you can use it for spellups, tracking damage taken/given out. Many things really. Capturing information. Might want to also read help Stacked Commands... T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and I am especially proud of my work involving mapper scripts T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there are specific things you can do with it, autohunt plugins (as long as you don't autokill at the end), spellup triggers, display stuff, cp/quest/gq tracking, look at my scripts at http://bastmush.googlecode.com for some ideas of what I do T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: ok, I read stacked commands helpfile, putting 10-20 stomps in a stack to kill 1 mob is not botting T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, but triggering stomp 10-20 times to kill 1 mob is T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope it's not Brontes, but probably more effiecient to do it one at a time. otherwise you'll have to wait 30 seconds after each fight while the spam continues :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The titan Brontes nods at Mendaloth. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: I see what you're saying Myrkul T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: more importantly, if you need to change to a different command you won't be able to. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: the trigger would allow you to continue killing while not at the keyboard, hence botting T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: My mushclient just disappeared completely, anyone know why that might have happened? I'd just typed 'quest complete' at questor and it just closed down T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Do as I say, not as I do, spamming commands in combat will get you killed :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you have a bug in one of your plugins T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: did you type quit complete by mistake? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not necessarily in the quests plugin, but quite likely T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The titan Brontes Tech: ok, thanks guys...guess I'll bear with it. Thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Does quit complete exits mush? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mush wouldn't completely go away if he did that, Mieko, would it? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'm not going to test it right now. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I don't think I typed 'quit', wouldn't that ask me before quitting anyway? T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Lytebane: and it probably has to do with bold/italics and some specific fonts, I know of a bug that when some fonts are italicized or bolded, then mush will crash without any notification T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he probably experienced what I call a silent crash. Something happens that definitely should not happen (ie, overwriting the wrong piece of memory), but instead of generating some sort of error the application just completely and instantly disappears from memory. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Hmmm, haven't changed anything other than installing the latest of your plugins, and I doubt that would break it. Haven't changed font at all, I'm using Dina font for everything. I'll just have to try it again in 26 minutes, see if it occurs again. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anything you do with software can exhibit this behavior. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even supposedly bug-free applications like Mushclient. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the bold crashing bug is related to a corrupt font file T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people have reportedly fixed it by reinstalling the font T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth points at Lytebane, and says "Can we get this man a quest reset?! You know for science!" T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mushclient has been pretty stable so far, impressively so :) I think that's the first time I've crashed it in 2 years of regular use T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you want one at your convenience, you'll have to come up with a method that crashes Aard, makes it seem like the crash was something Lasher did (or would be responsible for), and prevented any tracing back to you. T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: and run the risk of getting nuked for being a bad person...not really worth the risk :) T3/r3/2011-06-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: okay, I mostly have my extended statusbar script for CMud written. With 6 collapsible buttonbars available to you, how would you populate them? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Does anyone know what the command bast_hunt plugin for Mushclient is to start command? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you go to file -> plugins, then select the plugin & click show info, it'll usually show you the help for the plugin T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: This one did not. But I found out that I need an additional plugin to even use it T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: is there a way that i can make 9 on the num pad go up and 3 on the num pad go down (4 goes west, 8 goes north, 2 goes south, 6 goes east already) 9 tries to go ne and 3 tries se, im on mush too T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> keypad T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: seems they shut off the internets for a while... :> T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Anyone know of a way I can make MUSHclient mapper wait more than 2 seconds when detemining a custom exit? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can't be done atm... T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: rats, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know how to make bast's hunt use the mapper? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Top 1 thing you don't want to hear from your neighbour: You know computers, right? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Say no T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's worse when it's your boss... T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I made the mistake of saying yes, so I got to fix their ancient second-hand laptop with xp. Fixed it, but I don't really know how. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ranrr: Do you get to keep the laptop? lol T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wouldn't keep it even if i was offered. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have too much old computer junk as it is. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Any linux/fedora guy around who can help me? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just ask your question T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's the 'unusable' space on a 1TB drive these days? 50GB ? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Define "unusable" :P T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: None, afaik. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well, whats shown as the 'available' capacity if you look at the drive in explorer? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Oh, 1.000.000.000.000 / 1024 should give you an estimation. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: oh wait, that was over simplified T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's just that people that manufacture hard drives and people that write OSs have different definitions of what a TB is T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: you get aprox 909 gigs from a 1 TB drive T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: And 1TB disk will have 931.32 GiB on it T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Everyone uses 1000 as multiplier, except OS writers. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Corwyn, shouldn't it be 1.000.000.000.000 / 1024^4? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: it all boils down to the fact that 1K actually equals 1,024 bytes, not 1,000...and people can seel more drives if they take advantage of this...a 1TB would actually be 1,024000,000,000...but it's actually the flat 1,000,000,000... T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: Everyone, yes, but since it's divided by 1024, 0.909 TB isn't 909 GB T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: So well, the answer is that from a disk marked 1TB, you'll get 0.909 TB according to windows, which is the same as 931 GB, so there's 69 GB "unusable" :D T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: so unusable is a little less than 10% ... hmmm on friends new iPad 2, its 2GB out of the 16 T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: Well that could be because space is reserved for something else T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: not sure the fact that hard drive manufacturers are using the "smallest" notation cheat people out of space :D T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Everyone uses 1000 as multiplier. Only OS writers disagree. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: Well, the binary notation is used in most applications for computers T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: for example RAM size as well T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Network speeds for instance all use 1000, not 1024 T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think base 1000 is ok.. base 1024 is a hangover from when it had to be T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You want to work with 1024 at low level on a HDD, because sectors are typically 4096 bytes. So, to make it simple for themselves, they call that 4k. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 4096 or 512 T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corwyn Tech: Yeah it comes from the fact that it's binary notation, so easier to deal with on a low level I guess T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not easier, just a fact of the hardware design (and legacy). T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well, believe there's been attempted class action lawsuits that products can advertise "16 GB" in a misleading manner, even if the drive itself is 16gb average consumer doesn't understand T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they've been doing this for 10-12 years now.. it's not like it's a new event.. this type of naming is as old as the modern internet T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have an alias "ah" and when i use it.. it first does the social "ahem" and THEN invokes my "ah" alias... how cna i stop the command from being passed through? I haven't had this problem with other triggers T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^with other aliases T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: actually scratch that.. i might no be what i described T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Can anyone else access the espn3 website? I haven't gotten it to work anytime in the past 24 hours or so. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: http://espn.go.com/espn3/index T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Madcatz: I think it is down. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Just a blank white page here. It's not just you. :) T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: No data received T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: OK, thanks. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Time to find some other streaming methods for Wimbledon and the Women's World Cup match T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Williams Sister are out. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection reset by peer) in headers. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That damn peer, he keeps resetting my connections too.... T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: I occasionally get it to load, but even then, I never get any vid from it T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slecko Tech: Just adding sound triggers for *You raise a level* and *is slain* is so sweet..haha i got the super mario bro's 1-up sound T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slecko Tech: I need a double exp sound trigger T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cybertron Tech: Lol how you do that? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slecko Tech: Put .wav file in mushclient/sounds folder, open triggers, add sound file to trigger T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: where can I see the eqdata output whe I type it? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shows up on your screen, unless you're running a plugin to hide it from view T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: it is hiden, but I think I can see it, just don't know how the eqdata T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: is hiden by a plugin T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so disable that plugin? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nice answer, but the question is which is the plugin :P T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: I'm using bast plugins T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do I copy my mapper and triggers over from previously installed mushclients? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Menu -> file -> import T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: thanks T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for triggers, aliases... T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: copy aardwolf.db and aardwolf_bookmarks.db for database T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the page on aard's website with the client has info on how to move everything over T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Anyone using the aardwolf client who knows if there's a way to make the text field behave like zMUD? (Text is sent but not removed, only marked for quick resend/delete) T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: you mean so like you can up arrow and the previously sent text will be there? that sort of thing? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: auto-repeat T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: you were able to spam enter basically to just resend the same command, like quaffing T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: ah, okay T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: oh T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_make_it_so_that_commands_stay_on_the_input_line_after_I T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: <3 T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that should be the default. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lasher disagrees with you T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's quite dangerous T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: up arrow works by default with no settings changes T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh? ok. Figured there was a reason, just didn't know if it wasa good one. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: accidently buying 5 aardweapons would be a good reason :) T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: "dangerous" qualifies T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: um, yeah. didnt think of that T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this way if something bad happens as a result of holding down enter, it's your fault for turning that on, not mine. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Ol' Dirty Fiendish, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: anyone using gnome mud? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: or better question, anyone using ubuntu? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: I run on ubuntu but I mud via a virtualbox windows emulator T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: soooo.....suppose I "changed nothing" in cmud, but now one of my event-based triggers is echoing on every subscreen. what did I change? :P T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Change to mushclient is what I keep telling people :P T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: all triggers are event-based. Duh. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps you could be a little more specific? Keep in mind that anything in a module is visible to EVERY window that can see that module. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: sure, just meant that this one is behind an Event. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: explain that T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I agree with Mendaloth. Tyebald needs to move to MUSHclient. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: can I change scripts from cmud to mush? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: of course. Just have to rewrite them. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the languages are not compatible T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not directly. But honestly a lot of scripts have already been done. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ok, a bit more detail: I set an alarm to run forever, triggering a #RAISEEVENT every hour.... T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: stop right there. Where is the alarm located? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: remember what I said about modules? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I have one OnHourAlarm Event trigger, in one module. when it fires, currently, all it does is echo to my screen. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: any alarm that's in a module will fire in every window that can see that module. You only changed or had change one of two things: the location of the alarm, or the visibility of that module to various windows. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: either way, it's not a recent functionality change in CMud. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it's in a sub-module, if you will. theoretically, if I ever had alts, I wanted common aard behaviors to be separated out. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's no such thing. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: windows and modules are on an identical level, windows just have a visible component while modules don't. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you cannot ever have a window in a window, a window in a module, a module in a window, or a module in a module. If you do, your package is corrupted. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: on a related note, your package is also corrupted if any setting that is not a module or a window is outside of either. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yes, I don't have any "orphaned" settings like that. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ah, my bad....okay, package was probably the term I meant a moment ago, not module. I have multiple modules, in various packages. only one package has visible "window"-style modules in it T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: anyone using linux? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what is this alarm doing, specifically. The best (in my opinion, the only viable) way to do alarms is strictly within the main window (ie, it's doing stuff that many different and/or unrelated scripts depend on) or in the one child window where that alarm is relevant. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the event runs in its own thread, so if you weren't already being thread-safe and there is only one defined event it might be better just to do the alias. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's a bit of a tradeoff, between keeping cmud fast versus keeping it stable but bogged down when it does something complicated. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it's a trigger of type Alarm with a pattern of 3600. and, as it happens, I apparently haven't even put in the event stuff I was talking about. guess that was just in my dreams. so, when it fires, it just sends an echo to the mud. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: but, I did recently move it from a Window module to a common module....which I now see is contained in a package that is Enabled for some windows and not others. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: thank goodness for mushclient on ubuntu T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: any price diffrence in using a cell as a moden via bluetooth and using a actual moden? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: if you have to pa for teething, its probably cheaper to just go cell card T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: but if your "savvy" you can likely get free teethering, and just pay what your currently paying T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know how to keep the different miniwindows on top? Everytime I open mush I have to redo it again. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kurokiryuu: File>Save World Details? T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, yeah, I did save it T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: it saves upon closing anyway T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: but still bast's spellup and tabbar goes behind T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The only mini-window that seems to be on top each time I re-open it is that Group window. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's mini-windows will fall behind the Aardpackage since it is not the same setup iirc. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: no I think they coordinated it so that it can use the same send to back and front that fiendish uses. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: bast used to have a miniwindow layers thing T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kurojiryuu: I am sorry to say. They did not. Bast created his own layer setup. Fiendish had Nick Gammon add it to the MUSHclient. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, Fiendish asked Nick. Nick was awesome enough to add it. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah yeah well, now they use the same send to back and front thing. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: so its the same thing, which still doesn't help in why one keeps going behind the other. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast must have added that in the latest release. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: it has been around for a while already T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarick Tech: I'm not certain if Bast changed his system, but his original z-order mechanics involved renaming each window so that one was alphabetically before/after the other T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sarick Tech: Fiendish uses the actual z-order number setting. T3/r3/2011-06-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, but since they can layer over each other, I'm pretty sure they use the same system now. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Anyone around who got experience with variables in Mushclient? Let's say I want a variable called pri_weap and it contains my aard daggers vnum, how would I use that on input? Like "Wield pri_weap" T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Hey im getting a line of error when i try to load any of Bast's plugins T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: can someone take a look at it for me to help me out? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What's the line? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: http://pastebin.com/uruMn28M T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i get it for all the of the plugins...not sure whats going on with it. im totally oblivious. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Look in the plugins\ folder, and make sure constants.lua is actually in that folder (and that the folder actually exists) T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: there isnt a constants folder, but there is constants.lua T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: constants.lua should be in the plugins\ folder - exactly like that line you go states - is that path correct? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: got* states T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: no actually my aard folder is saved in my documents, not my programs T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's the issue then - it is looking in the wrong spot T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: how do i change it? should i just reinstall it... T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But you'll need someone more knowledgable about it than me to change where it's looking - though a reinstall would probably do it T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: thanks :) ill try T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Apocolyte peers around himself intently. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: now im getting a lot of: Line ###: Error parsing script (Cannot load) T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would suggest a complete reinstall - of mush and bast T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: ohhh noooo T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i reinstalled bast I cant reinstall mush too! lol too much work... T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ? Unzip and you're done, where's the work? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: moving all my plugins over, then resizing them all...copying over my aliases, and triggers. Getting my mapper to work, and copying over the files that contain my mapper portals and cexits T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: in zmud my record path window doesn't stay on top anymore, anyone got idea how to change it back so that it stays on top again? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: the ctrl+e function T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What's the syntax for force requesting gmcp updates? I thought it was protocols gmcp request , but that doesn't seem to be working. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: protocols gmcp sendbase ? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Well, according to the aard wiki, the gmcp commands are request quest, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which client? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It doesn't matter the client. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: aren't they the gmcp commands rather then mud requesting it T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: protocols gmcp sendbase T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: works for me T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: From here: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP -- Aardwolf GMCP Commands. You're missing what I'm saying. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You'll need to scroll down a bit and read exactly what I'm talking about. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: no we're not. the other commands listed there are commands that would be sent via gmcp to request stuff T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: protocols is the mud command T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: request char needs to be sent via gmcp itself T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: are you talking tell the mud that you want to receive those types of packets? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^are you talking about telling the mud that you want to receive those types of packets? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I suppose I am. It's early morning, and I've just started work, and didn't get much sleep last night. :P T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Could have sworn it was a mudside command. *shrug* T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: gmcp would have to send Core.Supports.Set [ "Char 1", "Comm 1", "Room 1", "Group 1" ] T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's the stuff there T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: now... which client are you using? becasue that matter from here on T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Nah, I got it now. Like I said, was just an early morning thing. :p T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Thanks. :) T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: anyone know why my catchtells keep going off by itself? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Have anything that is sending catch to the MUD? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: triggers, etc? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Tsarikos do you have a mapper cexit in sendhia for "catch ride"? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, it uses Fiendish's plugin if available, otherwise it set the zorder internally T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: any openbsd users here familiar with how to make the console display nice and wordy? i understand the first console can't have its text dimensions altered T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i put together two broken pc's to make one working one T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's like 80x25 by default, 80x50 is possible T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: 25 bucks for a network card and i have a solid firewall, maybe even as good or better than a top end system T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i guess freebsd would be better for general use, but i used openbsd before and the freebsd's install files i tried to put on my machine were messed up T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: this here system should have everything i need, it has a interface for using freebsd files T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i got debian for graphics and stuff T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: general use T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i see there's some compiler optimizations for gcc that would build code with machine instructions specific for a core 2 processor or other kind T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that will be a project one day, to recompile all of these system file's and applications using optimized core 2 instruction sets T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html is what i mean T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: well, you have -mtune=native and that, but that's not a huge deal. just compile with O3. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they add that automatically? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: using distribution sets from debian, for instance, they have binary's for the x86-64 architecture T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: no. but it's not all that useful from what I've been able to tell. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but, that includes all kinds of computer's, there might be alot to be gained by building your own dpkg's if you can specify the compiler flags in the config files T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: well, yeah. that's because you get a higher addressing space with 64 bit. if you compile on 64 bit processors (or for them), it will take advantage of that. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, 48 bits iirc T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they don't use the entire 64 T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: if you want to compile everything as you install it, get gentoo. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or the other 16 is used for the kernel address space, i think, one or the other T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, that's an option i was considering T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: well, you still get 64-bit pointers and 64-bit registers which the compiler can optomise with. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: nod, they use those by default, but for something like -mtune=core2 i'd get access to mmx, sse, sse2, sse3, ssse3 instructions wherever those are needed T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think most of that is to do with fractions and geometry T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: uh. a lot of that is floating point stuff. not fractions or geometry T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: teh compiler would take care of inserting the instructions T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, but geometry is used alot in fractions , like the sin function, alot of computer programs can be built without fractions T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or the other way around T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so , building an xserver or graphical applications with those flags enabled would probably be where the most benefit is seen, unless you're into something that deals with alot of fractions for science T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or cryptography T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: in some cases, y es. but like I said, the program has to sort of use those technologies to make a huge difference. The compiler can sort of optomise for AVX in some instances I think, but it's nowhere near as good as it would be if the program were to leverage that technology itself. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's actually 256 bit registers on x86-64 cpu's T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Imp Druzil nods. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i wonder if that sha256 algorithm uses those T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: ...what? sin is used for geometry, but sse is for doing operations on floatingpoint numbers. sin is totally different. That's usually implemented as a table. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: SSE, AVX and those are useful when you're operating on vectors, matrix, etc. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, i'd have to get to the stage where i make things like that to see where they're useful T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: when i think of fractions i think of gpu's or physics T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: some of it is useful in graphics, though with hardware accelleration it's sort of a dead point because a lot of rendering can be done with the GPU if you have a good graphics card. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, that's true T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: vectors and matricies are used a lot in 2-d and 3-d games though. But there again the gpu can still do a lot of that. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: mine has like 512 mb of ram, it's a geforce 9800 gtx T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: + T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: openbsd warns against x servers cause they say the on-chip memory and processors can be used to circumvent kernel protection on memory T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: need some help with Bast's plugins.. I have installed his miniwintabbar, miniwinevents, and the broadcasts for cp/gq/quests, and htey all work well. but I also have the broadcast for level in, but don't see that it does anything.. what am I missing? (and what should it show when I level?) T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: graphics cards are insane now. programs like matlab started leveraging them to do calculations. It makes a huge difference on large complex calculations. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: this one half of my computer put-together ahd this one cable on it, that turned out to be many cable's, connected to the usb ports and stuff, each connected to a little pin, that the other half of my computer put-together had bundled into one T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: this computer wasn't meant to be altered T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i wasn't expecting it, but it turns out it wasn't critical anyways, so i left it disconnected T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The "broadcast" plugins just exist to help other plugins, if I'm not mistaken. They don't actually output anything, I believe. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and there's no help anywhere on the motherboard or cable and the way they connect T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: kinda late to the x86 discussion, but yes, OpenSSL does support the avx (256 bit) extensions. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: like a - 1 v, or whatever T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: mic - in T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Does anyone know what you need to do to have a trigger fire an alias with a string? Like "XXX Disarms you" => "rewield dag" where rewield is an alias to get the dagger and wield it.. ? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: each has a pin on the motherboard T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and my other board h ad these individual wires bunched into a connector T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: wow. I didn't know openssl did that. there's also aes encryption built into the i5 and i7 processors. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Forgot to mention, mushclient :P T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: what client, what language? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: just use bast's weapon plugin. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: lua I suppose :S. I'm not very good at this. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: on mush press alt enter, just click on triggers, and add the string at the top T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: in the send box, set it to wield dag, or whatever your weapon is, and send it to execute/world/ T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: execute or world. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: it only seem to send "rewield dag" to the server then rather than executing the alias. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, to execute an alias, send it to Execute T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: send to execure T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: there is a Send To: dropdown box T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: send to execute* T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: ah, ok T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Everyone Tech: Thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: send to world doesn't evaluate aliases T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: taht's good to know about the avx extensions T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i figured, hmm, sha256, 256 bit register here, i wonder T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i haven't experimented much with cryptography or its tools, so i don't know about it T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: sha and blowfish seem to be popular though T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: guy at the hardware store looked astonished when i asked fora network card with multiple ports on it T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i never seen one of those.. i mean like you see on a router T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: my router doesn't come with very much configuration option's and i'd like to have a more secure gateway to the internet T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i figure i can use the onboard ethernet port and a regular network card to get a two way connection going at least, which i could hook up to a router or other thing T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: what good would it be if somebody could find my mac address, and form a packet into one interface that the router doesn't check whether it came from behind or beyond the firewall, and send packets on its behalf to the rest of the internet? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i could get blamed for all kinds of things that i didn't do T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: tht would be a good thing? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: on by default was rediculous, they had every insecurity allowable in configuration on by default, except remote management T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i wouldn't admit to doing something i didn't do T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: even if they never persecuted me, it's the thought that counts, if i could have better security why would i let 'take' or host the actions of somebody else? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm able to see the xserver running on my openbsd machine with nmap -sS -O , returning all port's as filtered - yesterday i added /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config to include the DisplayManager.requestPort: 0 (which was already there) and addeed the file /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc to include #!/bin/sh \n exec X -nolisten tcp "$ T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that doesn't make much sense, cause netstat -an on the bsd machine doesn't show x running T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: holy crap. that last tech message just caused a traceback in my mushclient. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the bsd version is 5 or so points off T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: lol T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm not sure exactly what else to try T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i hate having any open ports to the internet, even when a website spawns some alternative connection that opens another port, etc, i edited about:config in firefox to be as tight as i could T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i currently have the google network blocked and some other network that does webhosting for several universities and governments T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: cause that firefox and xpdf were making connections to them, embedded internet connections in pdf T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think i about removed firefox's ability to make most connections T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but how could i possibly restrict xpdf? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'll have to see if iptables has a application rule T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: while firefox has convenient stuff, for systems where the administrator is probably security-minded to some degree, they should probably leave those off by default T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: statistics of debian users who want firefox connecting to the internet without their knowledge: ? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i be that approaches zero T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: 'we aim for an open internet', ok, but what about integrity and security? like alot of unix distributions or windows distributions T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: need remote access, and sql servers to handle a local mail server for a process to write to a logging daemon for various thing's, with a webserver or other thing T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that's several hole's and openings for somebody to take over a system T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i like solid by default with holes invented by me T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i redirect auth to a nonexistant machine T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: all i am is an ip address to most people T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: one striking difference between debian and openbsd, is after i tighten up bsd, when i type ps aux all of my open processes fit on about half of a 80x25 screen T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm sure debian has the existing processes secured, but this way i can easily identify with each of the processes T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Any linux people here? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: my laptop is using ubuntu T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm a bot written in linux, but running on Windows. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I have a very simple but silly question T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: i'll try to answer T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I need to get my eth0 running on my wireless (running fedora server in virtualbox) T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: i've played with virtualbox, but not fedora T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: it's the same T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: only a few different things T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: how do I get reset my eth0 to detect my internet? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: ifconfig eth0 up? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: ifup eth0 T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: (might need to 'ifdown eth0' before.) T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: still getting pycurl errors T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: maybe dhclient or w/e? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Are there other interfacs on the virtual machine? Or just eth0? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: and lo T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: If it's the only one, or if you don't care about flapping the others once, you can try 'service network restart" T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: but that one is loopback T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Let me try T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: No, not working T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Still can't yum T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Is VBox set up properly? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Yes T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: its on network bridge adapter T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: I did it earlier today, but forgot what I did T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: So how would one go about getting wireless connection without a gui? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: man wiconfig T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't forget to cry while trying to get the drivers to work T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Is there a way to alias 'mapper find' 'mapper area' etc in mushclient? normal way doesn't work. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: what normal way? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: like alias 'ma' to 'mapper area' or something T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: alias ma * to be mapper area %1 T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: still doesn't work T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: If you're "re-aliasing" an alias, make sure you have it send to "execute". T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Daesilme, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: didn't know i was re-aliasing anything, but that worked. thanks! T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: mapper area is an alias for the mapper T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: aha T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: all commands for the different plugins are alias T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: I see T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: aliases T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: thank you T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Send to Execute means pretend you typed it into the input bar. So, it gets passed thru the alias mechanism again. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: One more since everyone is so helpful atm: is it possible to define a variable from the command line? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: And what would be the syntax for that? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: And what would be the syntax for that? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: oops T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no idea. I use CMud. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you can set a variable with function SetVariable ("varname", "example") T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: you can't do that from command line, but you could easily make an alias to do so. T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: An alias to do it from the command line? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: In the command line, \\\SetVariable("varname","value") T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: awesome, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will set the variable from the command line without needing to make an alias T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by default, \\\ at the start of any line will parse the line as a script T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can set your script prefix to whatever you like under game -> configure -> scripts T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i'm trying to reformat my laptop hard drive in preparation for a trip. i have a windows 7 cd key for it but was given no recovery disk, someone told me T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: there should be some place i can download windows 7 on windows.com but i can't find that T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: anyone know where i can download that so i can get that laptop running again? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was pretty sure you could only get that if you were a MS partner T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: don't think you can legally download entire OSes without paying for them in some fashion T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i own the cd key though T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, people with volume licenses can download microsoft's stuff directly from MS T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i take one from every place i work T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i've paid for the use T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computers that come preloaded and don't have media have a hidden partition on the hard drive with the OS restore, and they can make optical media from there T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i know.. but MS wont' let you use it... you'll have to DL a pirate copy and use your legit key.. sounds liek you got an OEM install version of Win7, right? T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i've checked the hd has no extra partition T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: getting the media is between you and the hardware manufacturer, not microsoft T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: bah ok thanks T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the extra partition is where it's stupidly meant to be if they gave you no cd T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: aren't they god like, if they just died right now god would remember that they're immortal and rebuke the death T3/r3/2011-06-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i don't know how this happened, but i seem to have dragged my main window beyond the top of my mush screen. - the title bar which i can click to move it around is not visible, its covered by the menubars at the top of the mush window. How can I drag it back? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Cascade the windows? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: iirc it's window -> cascade T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: but it's been a while T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: hmm when i cascade windows, it seems there's actually only 1 window, everything i have in populated in that window - using the new mush T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh, no clue whatsoever then T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: hmm alright thanks T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type resetaard T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: missed the reply on answer a while back...but i find certain colorsets for walls on the map invisible especially when trying to spot doors on them T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there a way to make it so the map is alwasy displayed with white walls? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: talking the ascii map thing T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mud colors the map based on sector types T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose you could hack the plugin to always make | and - white T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I overwrite files in the plugin directory (MUSHclient) will the client reload the new files when I restart, or do I need to reload them manually? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i like the perfect amount ofdata we have access to with tags, gmcp and functions like slist... any lessinfo and itd be close to impossible to scriptfor... any more and it wouldnt be a challenge T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So I've just loaded up the Bast spellup plugin - it' T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: whoops - it thinks my clan skill is a bad spell T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no sorry T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it must be because your skill doesn't appear in the slist list, which we speelup authors rely on. What's the name and skill number of the skill you'r eusing.. i'll log a bug for it T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I typoed and deleted all my sql db :( T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should be nub protection for that T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ctrl z? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Make backups T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: hit enter without where T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so it deleted it all :( T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no rollback? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh lemme check T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no I don't see a file :( T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I figured out why portal was running so choppy for me earlier, I just found the 2nd session of portal running :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody else bothered to config their firefox through about:config? i tried to solidify it a bit but i'm not sure exactly what is the best set of settings for each - alot of information is given by default T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: like you can disable referrer's and other stuff like that through it, giving the website less information on you T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's also a setting to disable any communication with a ssl server not using a proper version of ssl, to prevent those man in the middle attacks before they happen T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they say most servers out there today don't use the upgraded/updated proposed ssl standards T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it'd be good for people doing banking and stuff to have that on by default or in the preferences options T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and max redirects is set to 20 by default T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: for the new york times which wasn't working at 10 T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i set mine to 5 T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there is quite a bit of controllability there, which is cool T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: why i was asking is you people probably know alot about the internet and might have tweaked your own, what are the best options to turn off or settings for them/on T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: leave everything default T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they say setting your browser's id to google bot 2.0 would get you access to some backsides of some websites T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: cause i guess they allow google to index their site's for display on search results which require memberships to view T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the website could prevent against that with a search for whether the ip belongs to google or not T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: through about:config you can set that with, general.useragent.extra.firefox = whatever you like, mine is "Monkey 3.8" T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and you can remove geographical remote location identifier interfaces with geo.enabled = false T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think you have to go through about:config to find that T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so things like 'hawtties in just click here" won't work so easily T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's done for convenience, but can be exploited in various ways T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: big deal T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google has an api for precisely locating ip addresses T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i noticed that if you install something like greasemonkey, firefox doesn't remove its entries in that program T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if you remove the add-on/extension T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: maybe they should fix that up so that the invalid parameters no longer are configurable, since they no longer exist T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, a goal for an open internet T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but there's problems with that in such a volatile world where so much privacy is filtered through the internet T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if you go to a insurance office, they type in your information and receive your file over a network which is accessible from the internet T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: for instance, it's not too integrity-affirming to build mass-accessible points into all user application's T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have worked in said-insurance environment.. and it is all encrypted over the wire T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's a setting security.ssl.allow_unrestricted_renego_everywhere__temporarily_avialable_pref that is on by default in iceweasel T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's about that ssl upgrade that hasn't happened in most places, which is probably what the insurance company would use T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: require_safe_negotiation is off by default, but is the enforcement that the server has to have the new ssl version, which has safeguards against the man in the middle attacks T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: man in the middle, a person is on a network and intercepts/filters all information being transferred for observation etc, and if they get the ssl key for the transfer they can represent both sides and watch T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think the wisest choice for purchasing anything on the net is to buy a one-use credit card from a store T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: renegotiation, i believe, is when that person would send another negotiation on the former's behalf to the same location, and that location tdoesn't check (on the old version) that it already had a negotiation and allows the transmission to continue T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: the setting security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken i set to true, it tells you when you are at a server that is weak like that (but you have to have some alternative tools to view this reporting) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if i used the require i couldn't connect to most T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so, you can at least get a warning about it if a integrated warning was built into firefox, or if you have the interface to translate those reports into a external warning T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and you don't send any more information to the server T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's more c ompatible like that, since not all ssl connections require strict personal information T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so that's what i mean, there's alot of feature's you can tweak from that page that you might not otherwise have thought of - i didn't know that about ssl until i read that page and looked it up for what the setting actually does T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and i learned another reason to not automatically think i'm secure on a https:// connection T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: anyone know how to tell firefox I want to download a file and not stream it? I have an mp3 file I want to download but whenever I click on the link firefox wants to just stream it. I know about right-clicking and choosing save as, but this link isn't on a webpage, it's in an email and I can't right-click from there and choose save as. is there an option in firefox that tells it I want to download instead of stream the mp3? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you have a link.. right-click on it.. and save target T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: do you have wget? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: even from the email though? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as long as it's a direct link to the mp3.. it should work T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: hm. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you can maybe change default behaviour T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: temporarily T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make that "save link as" T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: edit->preferences-> and change default open behaviour T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: for mp3 T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: open notepad, make a quick html document, embed the link, open the page, right click and save the mp3. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you're on the streaming song.. wait for it to fully stream.. then try foring menu , File, Save T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Once it's loaded/streaming, you can't use File->Save Page As...? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Winkle beat me to it. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: though you have fewer horrible spelling mistakes :D T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: ok thanks guys :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: when you download an mp3 through a streaming audio, at the same time a temporary file's also created on the disk, somewhere T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: another way T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: hmm ok T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: just copy it after you'r done playing it T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: ahh. in the applications tab of preferences, it had it set to play with quicktime in firefox. I changed it to save file. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: exactly T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: another easy way is like they said, to make a txt document and include a html instruction to include that link, save it as .html and right click it T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or if you have wget, which fetches files from http servers/webservers T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: to use that to fetch the link T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: Hello, I have a problem with mushclient. The map plugin isn't showing any maps, but I get all maps in the main window. I have tried to reinstall the plugin, without success. Anyone that can help? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: if no one online can, send a note to fiendish :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: you tried tags maps on? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: Yes, I tried tags map on by advice in the Newbie channel. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Any MUSH heads out there need some help with a trigger? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: Kailin, type map, copy the output into pastebin and send the link to me =D T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: Okay, how do I do that, exactly? I assume you aren't talking about simply marking the text and copying it? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i know triggers T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, yeah just copy the output you get and paste it into pastebin. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe i mis-read doink's post T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: do you see things like {tags}? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: kailin try typing "tags on" T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: I guess I wasn't very clear - I meant the small map, not the big map. I have the big map working OK, but not the small "local" map. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah Kailin, type map, and copy and paste the next few lines into www.pastebin.com for me. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: try "tags on" there is a global override setting for all tags.. perhaps that is set to off T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: do tags on too T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mieko rapidly nods thrice, in complete agreement. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: http://pastebin.com/KAAq9FTL T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm, try tags on and try again T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah there are no tags there.. have you tried "tags on" yet? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: yeah it is in that pastebin, at the top T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, he did do it. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You, Kurojiryuu goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: is your automap on? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: You will now see the map automatically when you move. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: Yes, it is on. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh yeah.. i see it there in the dump T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: you have the Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper installed right? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and it's not disabled? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: something is gagging his tags but not capturing the info, winkle, if they are on =S T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: Yes, when I look at plugins, all of them are "enabled" T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: This is the first time I use this client, I downloaded it today from the Aardwolf site. :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: damn, weird. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: sorry, out of my league now... ask fiendish if he is on =P T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: If it helps, it worked at first - then the small map got stuck at the same room and when I closed mushclient and opened it again it nows shows nothing. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm, did you add many aliases or triggers yet? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: I haven't added anything because I don't really know how to. :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: ah, okay, try reinstalling MUSH T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: the really lame way of fixing things =P T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: Aww I spent like two hours setting up the windows and stuff... hmmm I will go to bed now and see tomorrow. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: kinda like asking customer service for help and they tell you to do a factory reset =P T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kailin Tech: Goodnight! T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: Kailin you can copy and paste the states of the plugins, that will save the window positions T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: no, hidden rooms as in they are through hidden exits T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}You, Kurojiryuu Tech: mis T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Kuro, I'll have a fix for that hidden door thing up in a new snapshot tonight T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: in zmud coding, what does the % sign signifiy? i.e. @ is variable T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: predefined functions/variables T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I believe % is for parameters, like %1 %2 etc. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I may be wrong, I've not used zmud in years, sorry. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Also there's like %param(), %gmcp, etc T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: its been a whil but something like , (%w) says 'hi'/ spellup %1 T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The % is like a function call, i believe. I'm not sure i have the word to describe it, but it calls functions, %1 is a function meaning 'first parameter' T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well im dissecting this 3 moons script to understand it better, i see the line that puts the info on my status bar as Black Moon : %db(@MoonScriptVar,BlackMoonBar) %db is some sort of parameter in that case? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's a function T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: oh so its called the db function on the moon var T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: that makes sense, thanks T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is there a method in zmud to check if a string "contains" a specific other string? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: pos T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Linoge. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: #IF (%pos("shortstring", "longerstring")) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Like #IF (%pos("the","their")), it'd return true. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: perfect, thank you T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's also %ends() and %begins(), if you know it will be in one of those areas. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: unlike %pos(), however, the source string comes first. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli wishes it would all be consistent. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: but then there'd be nothing but competent, capable, and highly productive programmers. The world's just not ready for that kind of awesome. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Zugg for ya T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers with Dokkar about their shared secret. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I bet there's lots of things about Mush that you really want to slap Nick Gammon with the proverbial rubber chicken for. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: when you look at the price of MUSH, you want to thank him profusely, though. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: Anyone know C?-- and would be willing to help me think thru the concept I want to program? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: I know a little T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Use C++!!!! T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: I can't for this :( T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: C# T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: C?-- did they make another version of C? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: my C knowledge has been reduced to a jumbled mass of lines, dashes, and random squiggles. But pretty much everything follows the same sort of logic flow, so I can help with the thinking through part. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PastamanT Tech: C? is another version of C? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: there are a lot of versions of C :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no C? is C? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: but C, C++, C# are the "standard" versions. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there are even custom versions of C T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: right T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: Ok :) Dokkar, I'd like to send you a tell, but it says you're no where to be found :3 T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: obj c T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I don't object to c T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: there you go T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but there's a standard version of each that you can use as a sanity point to consider the differences in the others from T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: and a little research will pop up PL/1 and the father (mother?) of them all. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: C# is not actually related to C in any meaningful way T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: k&r T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: true, more related to Java or even Javascript. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: K&R stole the idea of C from PL/1 T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, K&R stole the idea of C from B T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: in fact, the watered down version of PL/1 was called PL/C T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: B & C same game different name :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i read the c was based on a scripting language and developed into what it is today to provide a simple interface for portable operating system's and applications T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they turned the script language into a compiled language T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: let's put it this way, if you can program in PL/1 you have no problem at all understanding C code. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: and PL/1 in mainframe language from the early '70s. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: so I should learn PL/1 before learning C? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wasn't that the language consisting of a series of holes and not-holes? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no mieko T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: sorry, that was trollish :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: no, PL/1 one is not used much, it's too much of a language :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's why it's not used much :P T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, you could do everything in it including systems programming. The first online enrolment system in the US was implemented at UCLA. It was written in PL/1. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the same is true of the languages that ARE used much T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, true, you can actually write an operating system in COBOL, I suppose. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: Grace Hopper is in hell for COBOL T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the last versions of the mainframe FORTRAN was written in FORTRAN T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, I hear cobol is a very active language T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you still need some assembly language to make a system though, i think, especially when making the routines that the rest of the system uses to access resources T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yeah, when computers actually start speakng English, COBOL will be really on top of the heap :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need assembly language, because that's what the compiler does T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: banking and insurance software, tons of it in cobol. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Yay for TCL! :P T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not much anymore T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if you didn't need assembler at all, there probably wouldn't be a asm/ directory in a linux source tree T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well teh BOL stands for business oriented language. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: druzil, that's not true T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: each system out there and bios probably is coded to some degree in assembly, the compiler can use the assembled assembler to build assembly language for you from your code, but it has to reach that point T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: assembly is better/more optimized T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: Microsoft downplayed assembly language not because it wasn't essential, but because they didn't want to pay the cost of the programmers. So after 3.1 they went 100% C T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to have a single line in assembly for any OS T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: assembly is like building lifesized monuments with legos. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: assembly just lets you optimize things even more T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: no, you don't, Abe. Of course, you have to be willing to have your routine sizes double. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the stuff that has a high "cost" will be optimized in it T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's not because there's anything in the BIOS or anything else that needs it T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: druzil, remember, computers don't know what language you wrote anything in T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computers don't run C code at all (yes, I know the exceptions to the statement, but we're going with the normal/general case here) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I don't care what anyone says, a C programmer will never have the feel for the machine than a assembly language programmer has. When one writes in assembly language one's thought becomes congruent with the machine's operation. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're not talking about being good at it, or knowing it, ana T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're talking about whether there is some hardwired requirement at the low machine level T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, I understand. I get a little passionate about this subject :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: no, there isn't. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Csucsari Tech: having been an assembly programmer, I have to disagree with you (mostly) Anaristos. You do get to know what SVC calls are, and how it interrupts the system, but for the most part, Assembly gets in the way of how to construct your program, it doesn't facilitate it. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: It's just like driving with an automatic transmission, though :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Csucsari Tech: there is a reason why C & the higher level languages exist, it's so you don't have to think about offsets, low core memory, and branch instructions when your trying to think about what you want it to do. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I keep looking for 6th gear on my "new" bike...it's my first that only has 5 gears T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: What I am talking about is knowing in your bones what the machine is going to do when tell it to execute this instruction. You know exactly what the state of the machine is, you know what's on the address bus, you know what flip flops are being triggered, you know what's going to happen at the leading edge of the cpu cycle and at it's trailing edge. You even know how the stuff is being gated. No way to get that as C programmer. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that's one big hurdle i had when trying to learn how to program at all, looking at a guide to c++ or something, i had no idea how these things were all represented to the computer - but learning a assembly language to some extent gives a less doubtful approach to programming in a higher level language T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's less 'magical' T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, a foundation of assembly language makes a high level programmer better :) He/she has more respect for the machine :) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i like things to make sense when i use them, other people might take a for as a for but i like to see how it's actually being represented to the computer T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so it's not quite as big of ah urdle to program in it if you got something like that in mind even when using a higher level language, it's less of an obstacle of how to get to the point of representation and more a repeated procedure that surrounds it T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I had my herbert schildt C complete reference out last week T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I always salute my computer before I start using it, to show respect. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos goes, "Heh." T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I explain to mine who pays the power bill... *grin* T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I won't tell you how I turn on my computer, this is a family channel. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: how would you change tone for a color in mushclient? T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure ansi colors T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: ahh yes thats infinitely better T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Vale on and wish him good luck! T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now it'll help everything that might be sent in that color & not just the map ;-) T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'll need special instruction for changing the background color, though T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want all of the ANSI colors to be useful & easy to see...the xterm colors can continue on into the darker hues T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno why you'd need to change the background color...all the other colors should just contrast against it T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: mmm, how would I go about setting color based on a players name? It would amuse me to no end to give special colors to some people. T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mieko, highlight the player's name, go to display -> highlight word T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: bah changing it to white though does make paging prompt unreadable bah T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: thank you Abelinc, you're in pink now T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, try to stay away from having it match another color T3/r3/2011-06-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help pink pony