T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: how do you disable the bigmap continent map in the mushclient mapper? prefered the normal mapper one
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: disable the graph map plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bigmap off
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: believe it's bigmap off...bigmap help would tell you, anyway
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: many thanks indeed
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glocken Tech: my clear button just has info about gossip channel?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Glocken: is that a question?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glocken Tech: yes what is supposed to be in CMD 
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't understand what you're saying.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This black miniwin bug is giving me the shits something serious...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So completely random...mid gq that time :-(
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've heard that switching the lua5.1.dll with the one that comes with the stock mushclient install makes it not happen as often. I don't think it's the cause, but there appears to be something related to timing and the one that I package is faster
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The really weird thing is it will continue to resize the (black) miniwin as if nothing happened
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know how weird that is
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's some kind of corruption in the buffer where the miniwindow data is stored
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it only affects drawing
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I still can't get it to happen on my computer
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not even once? That's odd, happened a good 20 times to me
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know what to tell you
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh wow...any way to disable that noportal of yours fiendish? It won't run me to a portal room and then portal, and a 2 move speedwalk just became ~150 o.O
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So no way to disable that functionality? (flagging rooms as noportal)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Disabling the not using portals from a noportal room
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how does what you just said make any sense?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The sw would have been shortest to move once and then portal, instead it ran me the whole way there without portals
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how's it supposed to know where to move ?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not like there's a flag from the mud that says "this room is cool"
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can do the moving if need be, I'd just like to have it go back to the way it was before
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a work in progress. submit ideas for how to do it better
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, uh...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any way to stop it flagging rooms?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: two or three triggers
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can remove them, I guess
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have it attempt to use a portal from the nearest not no-portal flagged room?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and when that fails try again? and when that fails try again? and when that fails try again?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That was my original suggestion way back when this came up - find the shortest path to an allowed portal room
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, I assume when it fails you abort, and if the player wants to try again they'll enter the command again.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: please submit ideas for how it might work to the google code page
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the current operation is based on suggestions
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, you can look in the function findpath for two if blocks
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if rooms[current_room].noportal == 1 then
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and if rooms[current_room].norecall == 1 then
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so I disabled the triggers running noportal/norecall - if I feel brave I might change the db file
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and feel free to remove them
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no reason to change the database
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: removing those two if blocks will disable the noportal/norecall functionality from affect paths
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what if instead of running the entire way it tried to run to the start of the area?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That would work, though ideally, having no-portal/no-recall sent via gmcp should be a major priority imo
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eh
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not convinced
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think it should be sent at all
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though you might want a way to flag the opposite. "this room is portallable"
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Data that can be retrieved anyways? Why not make it accessible?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because you're asking for something that doesn't make sense only because you want to make scripting easier
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: isn't that what gmcp is?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gmcp is for information that you can also get without gmcp in a format that doesn't interfere with output
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: without gmcp a player has no way of knowing that a room is noportal or norecall without trying
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I think that that's exactly how it should be
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: fiendish really? i thought there was a ranger skill that showed the flags of a room
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How about having a couple of triggers recording portal/recall attempts?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: VampireDude, general player without using some special class or clan skill.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah. k
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, everyone can suggest ways that they think would be better on the google code page
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll try to add anything that sounds reasonable
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in the meantime you now know how to disable it
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody know why this doesn't print out alphabet but knows numbers and others?  highest gets set with alphabet input but nothing prints -> http://www.pastebin.com/0eqd72Ep
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i - 'a' or i - 'A' seems to work to set the test for highest then, i'm not sure why it doesn't work when printing it out, it seems like it should
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: lmao, i see
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: find . -name '*.txt' -exec grep Grade {} /dev/null \'s has a missing argument to exec. Why?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Need "\;" at the end of the -exec stance
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MiDo Tech: exactly :)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Some shells also requier you escape { and } 
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: So I need the space between the \ and the 's?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: You have to have an escaped semicolon at the end of -exec: -exec cat {} \; or "-exec cat {} ;" would both be valid
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Whee, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: No problem.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: In Lua, will io.open("file.txt") create the file if it doesn't exist, or is there another function for that?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/21.2.html
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Looks like Lua follows the semantics of the underlying C stdio library.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, found that too, but I didn't see where it says it'll create the file if it doesn't exist.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not Lua itself, but certain aspects, it appears.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Generally if docs do not provide an answer when I'm working on something, I'll write a quick experiment. I know nothing of Lua though, so I can't answer the question by experimentation.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, trying to do that now... :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: I know many programming languages, but Lua isn't one of them...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: wc -w | grep 'unless' testee gives me the same thing as grep 'unless' testee. Why?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if you know one surely the learning curve is less than most
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: trying to count the number of lines that have the word 'unless' in it (In this case 2) in the file testee
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: If you are grepping the stdin, grep requires only one argument.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Ahh, try this: grep unless testee 
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: crap
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: pipes are some how filtered in the game?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Ahh, try this: grep unless testee /\ wc -l
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: By /\ I mean a pipe.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Trying this on a linux shell
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: isnt there a grep option to count matches?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Might be. If so I've never used it, since wc does that just fine. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Pipe, got it. Any way to show the line numbers? And if I wanted to show the lines that DON'T have useless in them?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: grep -v unless
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: See "man nl" for line numbering of a stream
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: also "grep -v" will invert the search
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: i think lines are -n
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Oh, through grep, yes, you can do that with -n
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: If you're working with a plaintext file where you'll want line numbers in more contexts than just grep (say for formatting or something), check out the nl program.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: So far I have constructed grep -v -n 'unless' testee |wc -l Answer happens to be 2 in this case, but it won't tell me which lines they are on (3 and 4) So I need to add n1 somehow
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: err, nl
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: the get rid of the pipe then
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: remember the pipe takes ALL stdout and puts it in to the stdin of the next command in the pipeline. 
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: If you need *just* line numbers, use this command instead: grep -v -n 'unless' testee
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: If you need *just* line numbers, use this command instead: grep -v -n 'unless' testee /\ cut -f: -n1
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: again, /\ is a pipe
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why not use a pipe to indicate a pipe?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Got it. That gives me line 3 and line 4, but not a count of said lines
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Because it isn't working.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: I don't know if it is my client or the MUD, but a pipe character isn't working.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc pauses and tries to think
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: It's my client. It uses a pipe like MUCH uses a semicolon.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Well, that's annoying.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: hmm try grep -c...dont know if that'll work, but...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Ok, confused now, but so close
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: grep -c will count matches, not lines
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: -c gives me the number of lines, but not the line numbers despite the -n
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Oh, nevermind, I'm thinking of a different variant than GNU coreutils.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: or GNU grep, even.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: The line numbers will only appear on the output of the matches; you cannot use -c and -n together meaningfully.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: wierd. Ok, I think I'll just do it the hard way
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: lol, you'll get used to the notion of one thing and one thing well... can take some getting used to, but it does simplify things in the long run. Boo to huge monolithic tools.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: If this is something you're going to do frequently, create a shell script to help automate it for you.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Thank you all for the help
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Guess not really technical, but does anyone know of a good website explaining about fake blogs, google, indexing, ranks, etc
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: google SEO
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i specialize in SEO!
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: SEO SEM SMO stuff like that
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have been know to do it for a living too :)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Hmm, google itself, yeah good tip, they have a stake in keeping those practices down.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I've set myself a new goal to learn more about it, it was php/mysql seems like a good followup
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as a  tip.. avoid blackhatting.. good keyword density, a sitemap and some reputable external refrences will be all you'll need most of the time
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: it was sparked by this story about fake review sites, guess many years later they still struggle with people faking things on the web :)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: blackhatting I just learned that word :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ugh... I forget... and/or operator... is there one?  I forget.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in lua?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I don't think there is, but yeah, that's what I'm looking for.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no such thing as and/or. OR is and/or
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli turns beet red, and hides his face in his palm.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is or but not and, which is xor
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: ok I must be retarded, could anyone help me with the bast spellup script
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes and no
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quintosh Tech: dont call yourself retared
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: i did bsp help - but i cant get it to add all the spells ive prac'd
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: bsp check then bsp fast does nothing
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: ahh maybe I have to add manually :(
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Can someone take a look at this and tell me why I'm getting an unexpected symbol near 'if' on line 10? http://pastebin.com/e6AXAmTC
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And the code probably could be tidied up quite a bit, but as long as I can get the basics down, I'm happy (for now)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is the ,_ on line two ok?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: No, because that's been working, no problem.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I mean yeah it's ok. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: does Lua support "not"?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And not sure what changed to cause it to not work because it /was/ sort of working before.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: But it's on line 10, saying an unexpected symbol near 'if'.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (Would be nice if it reported WHAT that symbol was...)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Oddly enough, if I comment out everything it works again...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: maybe you have an extra "end" or missing one somewhere?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Best I can tell, there is no syntax error.. ?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can't see one..
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: ok 2 TP for whoever can advise me on a Windows 7 Config option
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: one that supports remote desktop
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: I have Lan connected, I have wifi connected -- is there a way to run a specific app through wifi while everything else would use the LAN
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: without using VMs
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I /think/ you can set up application access through the router.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i wanted to do thatn with torrents over my VPN'ed lan and everything else over wifi, but i dind't want to risk gettingt it wrong
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If so, then you can block access for the app on the one, and allow it for the other.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: You have to tell your application to use only a specific IP address. Unfortunately, that is an application-level configuration item, not a Windows level one.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: needs to be done through PC
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: That is something the aplication would have to allow you to do. Most Windows applications do not give you that level of control.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: To do it any other way you will require a VM or two computers.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Look for application on your router.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: like if i connect to aard over wifi then connect the lan it still works - because the connection was already established over wifi
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: You can do that as well, but I would presume you want a solution that doesn't require backflips.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: im in corperate environment - we are allowed to do things over our WiFi that we cant do via the LAN
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: hence I aard over wifi - but if the wifi ever drops i have to disconnect and stuff to get it back online to aard
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: just a hastle
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Still, the ony way to force an application to make an outbound connection on the desired interface is to force it to use that IP for the connection.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: That is the way it is on virtually all operating systems.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Found it.  Silly me... you don't do 'if exp and if exp then' :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: cmud 3.34, is anyone using %mapquery()?  I can't seem to get it to return anything.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's returning things for me...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Are you sure you're searching for the right fields?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yeah, I've narrowed things down to a #loop I'm using.  Apparently %mapquery() and %mapfilter() aren't playing together nicely.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Lovely.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: outside of the loop, it's returning stuff, inside the loop (and after the mapfilter is applied) it's not.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmm...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Have to run a call, but will try to test it in a bit.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: This is MUSHclient, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, cmud
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thought the syntax looked a little like tintin++.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Are these Lua tables something like internal databases, only faster?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I think so. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I've been using them a lot lately.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I haven't bothered with Lua yet.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't feel like installing -another- language to learn on my system.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: lol I know how that is...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Don't have to install it to learn it. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How would you code with it then?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: I wouldn't bother trying to learn any language without its interpreter/compiler installed on my system...
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You'd need at least an interpreter, or the MUSHclient, I suppose.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: By the way, those wishing to learn javascript can do so at codeacademy.com -- I think they'll be adding more languages later. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: And as far as scripting goes, I am myself a Python person.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: When I've got time I'll try hooking up python scripts to my tt++.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's a webapp that will teach you pretty nicely, without having to install it.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'm hoping they add lua there. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Etzli: but that's Javascript, not Lua.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Damn, I took too long to type that. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: From what little I have seen of Lua and Ruby, they look very similar.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: Fiendish you online?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger him and see.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: Guess not
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: anyone use WINE on mac?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas uses wine frequently, but not on a Mac. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: I have it working just fine, just trying to have it autoload mush when I start wine
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: because I cant just doubleclick it from OSX, have to open wine then open a file explorer etc
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas can't actually help you, the wine he uses is a different version - v. red and tasty.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're doing it backwards
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-click mush and it should be assigned to open wine
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: heh - simple enough
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: thanks Abe
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: didnt realize I could go that route - UnArchiver had taken over the assignment for .exes for somereason
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: just started on mushclient a few days ago and came upon a question that I'm having trouble finding an answer to in the forums.  How do you anchor a trigger to the beginning of a line?  I know it's a simple question, but I must be reading over the answer or something because I'm not seeing it.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you are using regular expression surround your match with ^  and $.. if you are not.. it is anchroed toa  whole line by deafult
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dugrant, the default pattern matching for mushclient is glob, which is anchored already
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: thanks just what I needed to know
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: does SQLite have a wildcard character like Access does?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. but it's %
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and you can only use it with a LIKE statement
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: SELECT * FROM Areas WHERE name LIKE '%nave%'
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Haha... this is hilarious.  I attempt to do a function, it fails.  The reason?  "No error (line 1)" :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you tried putting an error on line 1?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Another Lua question.  Is there a way to write the contents of a variable (in this case, a table) to a file so that I may retrieve it later?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: io.write(tablename) just doesn't work.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: as opposed to saving to the state file?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm no Lua programmer, but with array-type variables you usually need to iterate through them to store contents
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: How do you mean, Gonf?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: each of your plugins has a state file that stores data, look in plugins/state
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: This isn't for MUSH, sadly.  Don't think CMUD has state files that I can save it to.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: oh sorry, I just assumed :)
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they are called packages
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Right, Dokkar, but it's still not a Lua state file. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: lua variables don't persist in packages though, dokkar :P
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: can't you write them to a regular variable?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: why is that, anyway? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or even do it the hard way and make a flat file?
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Celanil actually solved the issue for me. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And I'm utilizing Lua variables instead of CMUD variables for a few reasons. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: because LUA is an afterthought instead of a primary form of script-writing.
T3/r4/2011-09-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli is successfully converting his spellup script to Lua. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Very cool.  Came across someone's work that allows tables to be directly stored to a file and loaded as needed.  Very useful for us CMUD users!
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (Note, this is Lua I'm referencing)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, serialization
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I suppose that's what it is.  Someone created a table.save and table.load function. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: heh oh, I used the one fiendish gave me, was longer I think
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: can inclement weather cause lag?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yes, if your net wires aren't well insulated, it might cause packet loss.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: which would translate to lag
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: would crosstalk and ac motor noise also cause packet loss on un-insulated wires?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: sure
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to intentionally induce harmful interference against someone else's uninsulated wires?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sure. Just short them.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: iheard shorting wires can start fires.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm allergic to fire
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it makes me break out in boils
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Internet cables are likely to have a low voltage which wouldn't cause a fire.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra i was thinking something more creative, like maybe inducing an electromagnetic field to act upon the wires and influence the otherwise motile electrons on the wire
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What for? Whats' your goal? Win more gqs? :-D
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, the more people that are power cycling their pcs, the faster the network is
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: right....
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra, you think it'd be possible to essentially super impose a charge well upon the wire in such a method as to disrupt or inhibit the orderly transfer of data via electrons?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its ok if its not, can always switch to fibre
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sure. Shorting them would do the trick.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er.. I guess wrapping them around an electric motor or something should be effective. Maybe.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra idunno, i think shorting them might not work 
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: don't the wires need to have certain voltage values at the terminals in order for the line to be recognized as connected by the pc?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe i'mover thinking it, if you say a short willwork i can try that
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Now that you mention it,
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Simply cutting the cable would be even easier.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra i don't have too many electric motors, i was thinking maybe a nice stator or a donut magnet with some nice self-induced voltage gain/ wound copper wire.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i can try to get some electric motors. man this is so much effort X.X
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sure it is
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: hmmm
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Any changing electromagnetic field is going to induce a voltage in your wires.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So you could just move a strong magnet nearby by whichever means. Not sure it'd be enough, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra what about taking an electro magnet and sending off pulses of em towards the wire , maybe use a tin/aluminum foil focusing band around a nice glass  funnel di-electric usually)  ?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: no idea if foil or glass would help.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and honestly, if the toroid acts as a magnet once the voltage + capacitance of the wire works itself out, couldnt i just feed it enough power on a switch?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: rather than moving the magnet, just oscillate the voltage going into the inductor, maybe use a 2 capacitor 1 inductor setup and toggle between the two through a controller?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra well, it'd help in the satellite dish sense of improving the range.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm just wondering if it might be more fun/malevolent to use a directional setup, might even work on cell phones
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but cizra, basically i'm picturing a ringing circuit with 2 tones, and then making sure the magnetic field is unshielded and directed with enough 'kick' to annoy that line.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i wonder if that'd do it.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Get a microwave magnetron and fry em
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Need some help for a silly problem.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've somehow rerouted all the internal port 80 traffic onto a local webserver, what could any causes be?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's port 80
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I set up some iptables rules earlier....
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's what webservers use ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: no, my question was poorly phrased.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I mean, from some hosts requests on port 80 are directed to an internal webserver, but some other computers have access to the WWW. What could I have done wrong?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: ipforward?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: iptables?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: iptables -L FORWARD might show it
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: from any to port 80 send to ip kind of thing
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No ports are specified.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: no clue what else it'd be then, if requests to port 80 all get sent to one ip, i do that with my router
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i suck with iptables though
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I used -s 172.16.0.0/21 -o externalnet -i internalnet -m conntrack --ctstate NEW -j accept
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Same.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: 21 ?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 172.16.0.0/255.255.248.0? I can't count at the moment.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It seems to be valid, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: yeah, ff.ff.f8.0 , so last 3 bits would be 49-55.0-255
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: that's how it works isn't it?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's what I thought.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: what would be the mask if you wanted to block all hosts from any.any.any.16-32
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it is a range, usually it's just /32 or /16, so that would be bits 29 and 28, or 30 and 29 i think
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if it counts from the left/most significant
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Now I can get ping responses from Google but the HTTP requests are redirected to the internal web server.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Only in some cases.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I had a facebook tab open before, and I can still surf around within FB there.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: iptables rules don't go into affect on preexisting connections
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: stateful needs to see a start and end to the transmission
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you can use iptables -D to remove them if you mess it up, after listing with -L or S CHAIN, by as it's written or number in the list, after policy's
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you probably know that though
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've flushed the iptables now though.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: tech flush just removes a statistics, doesn't it?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Druzil: I really honestly don't know if I should just ignore you on all channels.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: oh, yeah that works
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you should
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why do you do what you do on debate?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And gossip, let's not forget gossip
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: why is the world such a shiny place
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All the vampires?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And I had to start him off on Tech too.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien keeps hitting himself in the head and uttering, "Doh!"
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: as long as they eat themselves it's alright
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: send the vampires to the UK, we have a scum problem they could clear up
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tell them i'll pay $1 per chav they eat
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i think blade has hunted them all down and they moved to alaska
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i thought vampires were alergic to burberry and Argonite
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they fear ninja monkeys
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but there's not many of those little spiders left
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: blackbeard had a ninja monkey to ward off vampire pirates in the bermuda triangle
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: and like the beer they brought, it's notoriously good
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: stay thirsty my friends
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Seems to be OK now, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if i have a standard mush trigger and i am using named captures like (?<id>.+)  how do i access that value.. i tried d  with variable expanded, but that didn't work
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can only use those with Regex on as far as I know.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i tried @id  with variable expanded, but that didn't work
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's not a named capture...?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: how do you mean?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh wait, stupid comm window tried to parse it as mxp :P
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hooray! i beat tech again!
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how can i make my triggers to get a default location?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can you be more specific?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or a little less vague? :p
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Takor Tech: By any chance do any of you have any experience with mudlet and the mag upgrade?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm, just got a couple of "Invalid spellheaders" messages from xBroadcast_SpellSkills when I reconnected.  any ideas what those are?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm, any ideas what would cause the one to four and seven to zero keys to stop working on a keyboard?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: coffee
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: they seem to phase in and out.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: just those 8, everything else is good.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ....they're back now.....
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: and, I mean in general.  as in, "don't work for anything, not just the mud client"
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Your keys are rebelling against you.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that would appear to be the case.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: brand new laptop keyboard, I'm guessing it's just faulty.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It might be the case... monitor it for a while. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: started yesterday, as far as I know.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (No pun intended, of course...)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Martini & Tyebald.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I did alot of two player gaming on one keyboard
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: oops
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: OK, so does anyone know if you can edit zmud's map files with a text editer?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd imagine they're binary database files, but am just speculating having never installed zmud
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Unlikely... think it is in a MS Access database format
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd be able to edit them using database tools
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: You can convert zmud map files to cmud map files, which makes them sqlite files.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just be sure you know what you're tweaking, else you bork zmud's understanding of the file ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: but then i'd have to install cmud, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Yeah, that's not helpful if the goal is to stay in zmud Kall :(
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: well, cat sees the mdb file as gibberish.  so no help there.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: remapping death gate cycle would take a bit lss time if i could find death, replace with partroxis  :)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I _think_ the old zmud format was pretty fragile.  Changes of editing them successfully is probably low
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: er, chances
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it's not plain text, so meh.
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: ok guys, i'm so proud of this im about to bust and I need someone to take a look at it :)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool!
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it sucks!
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: http://caskeytranscription-com-4000.scryer.caskeytranscription.com/test.html
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Wow, full webbased client? 
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: getting that direction
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: and what virus did  just install?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a great way to ahrvest our passwords!  lol.. it looks great
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: He can steal my about to be recreated anyway lvl 12ness! oh noez! :)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: yes it would be but same is true for any client
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: do you see the room "cards" stacking up as you move from room to room?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's quite teh acheivement.. well done
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: some bugs worked out introduced by the card stacking but nothing too difficult to fix
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: How easily can we write bots^H^H^H^ scripts for it?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: daagar unfortunately alsso very easy
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: not much i can do about that :P
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I was just kidding :)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: btw i fixed the card stacking bug, just click refresh
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I moved over to Aard just recently _because_ of how open it is, and how it doesn't feel like a police state with regards to scripting (ie., GMCP is AWESOME)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: help map and chat buttons at the bottom all work somewhat
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I actually need to stop playing with LUA and play the game itself :P
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: the map function saves your room history in local storage and shows rooms within r=2, clicking them will path there
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: er, Lua
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: chat captures chat althoguht it isnt filterable yet
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: help errr brings up help and hyperlinks to related topics, it will also intercept  help <foo> commands
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: k guys, ill catch up with you later, afk for 30 min or so
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: is there any way to actually detect teh start of a room description?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: there doesn't appear to be any kind of tag or gmcp indicating the start is there?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: pretty sure there is a tag option type tags
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: - h3
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yeap its there :)
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: - h3
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: why is it not on by default?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no tags are...
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why would anyone want them on, spamming them, by default, if they don't have a script that uses them?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: well they dont get sent untless the cleint calims to support them do they?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the client can turn them on, if that's what you're asking
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: hrmm, for some reason i enumerated tags 1-17 in my client...
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: why did I stop at 17?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: is there a list of teh #s for all the tags?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: help telopts
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: looks like some tags are not listed in telopts by #?  roomchars and roomobjs
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then they probably can't be toggled by the client
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: is src available anywhere so i can peek and see if it has been added and just not to the help file?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: of the mud? definitely not :P
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: anyone on that has access and could check?
T3/r4/2011-09-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: only lasher has the source
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Anyone good with big-O notation?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: used to know it
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: its been a while
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: whats the question
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: For homework, question asks what the following means: f(n) is n^O(1). Not sure at all what it's supposed to be when O(g(n)) is an exponent.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: haven't seen it before but it should mean that f is limited by a polynomial for large values of n i would think
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I was browsing the wikipedia page for big-O notation and it said n^O(1) is O(e^n) but didn't show the proof or anything. Seems kinda complex for question 1 in the book. heh.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: hmm thats odd
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: link?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volcanic Vulcaned Tech: without knowing what the constant is, the only thing you can say for suer is that f(n) < e^n?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-o_notation#Multiple_usages
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Yeah, and even then I have no proof for that. That's probably the answer, but I would like to know why.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: you can definitely say something stronger than that though for f(n) = n ^O(1)
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volcanic Vulcaned Tech: can you? If the constant can be anything, there's no polynomial that will work as an upper bound
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: you cn't naem a specifica polynomial
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but you can claim the existence of one
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I could just be safe and answer everything as O(n^n^n^n^n). :P
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volcanic Vulcaned Tech: I think the next step up from polynomial is the exponential?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: For simple ones yeah. Exponential, then factorial.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volcanic Vulcaned Tech: what is there for complex ones?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Not going over them in class, but there's some thing called L notation that's just bigger than polynomial.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: what i mean by what i said earlier and hard to type during double is
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: there exists a constant k
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and a constant N for which for all n > N f(n) < n^k
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: another way to put that is that there exists a constant k such that f(n) = O(n^k)
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: although first statement was slightly stronger
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: is there an interface thing that short-lists mob names and room names to specific areas and the room is clickable that can be configured to use portals?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: possible with extensive scripting, don't think anything public
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: hmmm know anyone who has something like that?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone know offhand the syntax to mount CIFS drives as a guest?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: should i just give up on parsing the map out of room desc and disable it and request the map after i receive room info via gmcp?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What do you mean parse the map out of room desc?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm guessing you have automap on?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: yeah
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: isn't it on by default?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: i can turn it off i know
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: but if i want to capture it and put it in a different window...
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't know, I've had it off for a long time. Or I have it on, but it's gagged to another file anyway.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use the map tags
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Kurojiryuu, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: then gag when it starts, stop gag when it ends
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What's wrong with MUSH?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The maptags are designed for that.  You have <mapstart> and <mapend>
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Vakieh: nothing.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Vakieh: He's designing his own client.  People like to have projects like that.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: hrmm maptags and mapexits are on but im not seeing them in my debug log
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: could just be missing em
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: all other tags i have that aren't implemented put an entry in the debug log for me to look at so i can see what i need to support
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: and im not seeing either of them, they are turned on under tags though
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: did something else gag them?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Gagged or not, it should show up in his debug log.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: it's the first in the "chain"
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: im getting the other tags, room names, roomobjs, etc
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: so, spellheaders_redirect....what should I do to get its errors from blocking all mud output on me?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try plugins reload bsst
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: no effect.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload bsp
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload all
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: still no change.  everything reloaded, but the error's still there.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Odd.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: k room descriptions are looking oky-doky now http://aardwolf.scryer.caskeytranscription.com/test.html
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: why is "a generic voting booth" not in the roomobjs section, is it something other than an object?
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: ok minimap pulls out now ot the side...
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: main log is starting to get somewhat less spammy
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there an easy way to suppress the output of a plugin when called from an alias? I'm calling bast's spellup plugin to disable invis/hide/sneak, doing some stuff then reenabling it. It would be nice if I could stop the output when I run that alias.
T3/r4/2011-09-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: emulating the room portion of the roominator was a surprisingly simple script to write in CMud.
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm.....what do I need to copy to bring q/cp/gq stats across from one version of mush to the next?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: check out the page on upgrading on the aard site
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, did that, but I don't have the bash stuff.  copied the state files across.  not sure what I'm missing.
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm.  copied stats.db too, but no change.
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: any good sites where one can get some scripts for mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: finger bast
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: I looked there, but it's just a mushclient with preloaded scripts, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, it's a set of plugins designed to integrate with Fiendish's MUSHclient package - though afaik it works with vanilla MUSHclient also
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Bast's scripts are extra to the standard ones...stuff like spellup, potion management, campaign and quest stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've also got some scripts.. but i've been slack as keeping them updated
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a new major release comign out this weekend
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What were you after specifically?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: I've been using the stock mushclient, but I just want to add a few scripts to it
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The Nick Gammon flavour of MUSH, or the Fiendish remix?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: No idea, the one you get off of aardwolfs site
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Gammon it seems
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pretty much no matter waht, if you're using mush here, you should be using Fiendish's
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's the Fiendish version - good - now go get Bast, follow the instructions to combine them, and get to learning :-P
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Also, might be worth a look at aardhaven (see help www)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A nice hunt script there (aardhaven)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: How do I safely update my mushclient, without losing my own aliases/etc?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Check this page http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: If you're upgrading from a non-fiendish version, you can probably just back your old one up and import the aliases and stuff with the 'File/Import' option. Just rename your old mushclient directory or install to a differently named one and you can always go back to the old version.
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have SOOO many script ideas.. and jsut no enough time to write them
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Failing that, there's 'Save' options on most of the screens, so you can save your aliases, triggers etc to file and re-enter them by hand if that doesn't work.
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Anyone an idea how come the Bast spellup gives me the error that "Aid cannot be cast on another" when I try to add it to the spellup list for others?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Since it CAN be cast on others..
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nothing wrong with it's slist entry, must be a Bast thing
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: its*
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Hmmz.. So I am the only one who uses the Bast plugin to spellup others?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Quite possibly :-P
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I went usually use the built in spellup command - better knows what he person already has :)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Doesn't matter as much on first cast, but on second cast makes a world of difference :)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Agree on that.. Keeping a manual slist is bound to miss one or two spells :)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Ok, reinstalling the plugin did the trick.. Just for your reference :)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: No I'm talking more about failed casts, with 40-50ish spellups, might have 5-10 fail.  With Bast's you'll recast them all, or with spellup command just recast the ones that failed.
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Oh yeah, like that.. True again indeed :)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is there any way to get the info from mapper unexplored area into my own script? 
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: might be able to capture and gag it...
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: make that mapper unmapped here
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not sure if you can trigger on echos from another plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: would probably have to modify the mapper plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah -- last time I looked the display code and query code were heavily intertwinned
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: just wondering whether I was missing somehting obvious
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: since you're ignoring me, i take it you can't trigger on echos from other plugins then? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh, sorry, Myrkul I assumed that was rheteroical
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: you can alias in between another plugin, if it lets you, but no you can't trigger
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: good to know, thanks :)
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: something i can read on accessing MushClient GUI variables from a plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: or an example in a stock plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you look at the MUSHclient forums?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://69.5.26.215/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsection_id=1
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: dual channel ram, I have two sticks, I assume I should put one stick on each side, but does it matter which one as long as one is on each side?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: depends on the motherboard
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just stick them in and check your bios settings to see if they're running dual channel or not?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamesson Tech: hello
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamesson Tech: anybody know how to use the muschclient for windows 7
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: download it?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamesson Tech: i did and i got the folder but mush is saying i'm missing a lua code
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: weird
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just have it in my desktop folder...
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamesson Tech: lua 5.1lld
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamesson Tech: thanks it works on the desktop
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah win 7 doesn't like apps saving stuff in program files
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamesson Tech: it also has another name associated with some of the files so thats prolly why
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jamesson Tech: is there anyway i can get the older version of this client
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Might ask fiendish
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Doesn't the google code page have earlier versions?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey somebody give me the name of a linux-compat friendly network monitoring applet for xorg(xenocara) ?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qalian Tech: Hi. I just downloaded the Aardwolf MUSHclient. Does anyone know how to increase the size of the font for each window?
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Right click on the window, Change Font
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or for the main window, Game->Cofigure->Output
T3/r4/2011-09-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qalian Tech: Thanks. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone willing to help me set up some dns-bind local server thing as a way of caching dns's to save time later? i can offer you manor pies or aard gold
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: new to this MUSHclient thing: Is there a way to use F1 as a macro key without it trying to pop the helpfiles up?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_disable_F1_as_being_the_help_macro?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Cheers
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone want to help me set up dns caching for 1million gold?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sigh, wish it wasnt so laggy to mud. darned dns timeouts
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Do I want to know why your DNS timeouts are slowing down your connection here?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: no... you want to know , as do i, how to cache dns locally on common dns requests
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude smiles happily.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to test if my bind server is working?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what is 40-45 F in fahrenheit oh wait nevermind
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i guess i need to cool the beer down first
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: put ice in a bowl with water, add salt, put beer in bowl!
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok but i dont have ice
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: maybe an endothermic chemical reaction
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Does SQL Lite/Mushclient/LUA have an update if row exits, or insert if it does not function?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ? I...don't get it
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You mean like a listener function?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not sure what a listener function is.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's not the same thing
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Say I have a database of equipment.  I want to combine an update/insert into one function that gets information on equipment, than either inserts or updates the row depending on whether that piece is already in the database.  I could do it by doing a seperate select statement, then doing an insert or update.  Just thought there was a way to combine.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Native sql doesn't, idk about sqllit - I would recommend separate select - then update or insert as needed - much neater
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: which dbms? oracle have merge and teradata has update else insert
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm might have found it insert or replace
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: anyone using tt++?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: does anyone know how to match a string of characters in mushclient including whitespace?  For instance, type where, match the area name and store it as a variable?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: ^You are in area : (.+)$
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: To store in a variable, I think you can just set the 'Send to' dropdown on the trigger screen to 'variable' and put the name in the field provided.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Brunhilde nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: realized that it was matching fine but the storage was giving me the problem
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: I'll try the send to variable
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: have you looked at SetVariable?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: SetVariable wasn't working
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: giving an area for the whitespace
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: error, not area
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: send to variable worked, thanks all
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: No problem, glad it worked, I've not used it before, it was a guess based on the help pages :)
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: I know this is a long shot, but does anyone here have experience with Plesk + virtual hosts on MediaTemple's DV servers?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i know the word 'hosts', does that help?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: haha, it's all good... we have multiple domains and for some reason only one of the vhost.conf files are being picked up
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: I am wondering if it's a MediaTemple-specific issue
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: suddenly I can't see bigmap on the mapper plugin in mush (I see regular squares like when in any area). Any1 knows what I can do to fix it?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Try running to a continent, then right clicking the map, I think there's an option to switch from normal to bigmap and back
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: hmmm... I don't see that option. Thank you for answering though
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Hmmm, I just tried it, I get a menu with the option 'Hide continent bigmap' on it in when bigmap mode, and 'show continent bigmap' when in normal map mode. Don't you get that?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: no :|
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't see that option either
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: wikis exist for a reason. http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Bigmap
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't see those options
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: me neither. And bigmap commands dont work (Invalid bigmap option given)
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: No idea then, typing 'bigmap on' and 'bigmap off' works here. Might be worth trying reloading the plugin.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well i updated the aard client... wish i hadn't now :(
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh no, why is that?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it reset my mcl file and other settings
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you follow the upgrade instructions on the website?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: did you read the page on how to update properly on the aardwolf site?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: which site?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm - Look at the how to upgrade section
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah...
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh well off to spend the next couple hours getting my aliases and trigs back
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: so how does this mxit thing work? just installed it on the phone
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Are you connecting with it now?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: srsly? you're gonna be a mxiter?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: </hate>
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I think he means blowtorch.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a world of difference
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: Is there a place I can read the syntax for accessing a MushClient GUI variable from a plugin script? Or an example? Don't need to set or change it, just read it dynamically.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are actually two different kinds of client variables, and a plugin can't access one of them
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the one thing you need to understand is that the "world" is like its own plugin, and different plugins can't talk to each other except through tricks
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but the best place for mushclient scripting questions is on the mushclient forum
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: i have a question about a trigger, "Your eyes glaze over." is the message and i want it to enter look. but it's seeming to not be working.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What client?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: try "Your eyes glaze*"
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think there is a 'send to world' thing that you have to click, or you can 'send to script' and make that send to world.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: also, is there a way to turn off the notification for "world file saved."
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas I am a cmud person and know little of lua or MUSH.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanfire Tech: also if there are words before or after the trigger then use a * to replace the changing word
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it defaults to "send to world"
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you want to use lua, you need "send to script"
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The messsage is "Your eyes glaze over."  That should work... :\
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: that's what i thought it was....is there a way to tell how many times the trigger has gone off?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: can always echo the message to yourself
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you see the message appear without the trigger firing?
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: only once.
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: maybe it was buggY? i've been lagging a lot today
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: maybe it was buggY? i've been lagging a lot today
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try 'echo Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try reading the mushclient website for help on how to write triggers
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: it's not doing anything
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: that's what i'm going to do right now. thanks for all the help!
T3/r4/2011-09-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have a few helpful links here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: anyone remember how to disable the background pic in aardclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_remove_or_change_the_Aardwolf_logo_background_image_in
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cool
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: anyone use blowtorch?
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Currently 9 people online using blowtorch.  I'm not one of them, however.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: Ahh was just gona ask if anyone knew how to make a hockey for getting a potion from a backpack and quaffing it, on the same hotkey
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: by hotkey, do you mean an onscreen button?
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: yeah
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: you hold your finger on the screen till the button appears, in the 'label' field you type the button name, and in 'CMD' field you do "get potion bag
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: "get potion bag;drink potion"
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: okay ill try that. wasn't sure how to put two commands on 1 button
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: with a semicolon, same in the mush client. and same with the ingame aliases
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: great that worked, thanks for the help
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: sure
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YumiHatoshi Tech: is there any way with the mush client i can make it like alert me when i can do quests agian i was told to set up triggers but i dont know how to do that x.x
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: its easy...catch the text you recive when you can quest again and put a sound to play :)
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YumiHatoshi Tech: ok i think i know how to do triggers just not the sound part but i will read this
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in the trigger definition window, how to do the sound part is obvious
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burger Tech: where in MUSHclient do you configure triggers?
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: CTRL - SHIFT - 8
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can anyone remember how to toggle visibility for basts spellup?
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: I cant even get basts spellup to work lol
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: Im trying to get it to auto cast/auto populate learned spells and dont know how to do that
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Irys Tech: holliday, bsp sadd all
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I now have it not crashing on load which is good
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but I can't see anything
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: thanks Irys
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: wow, got it working
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: now all I have to do is rewrite all my scripts to use it
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher gasps in astonishment.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec nods at Santher
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I do feel good about myself
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i was gonna use that plugin, but i'm too lazy to re-write my scripts
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the problem is that the old spellup script is getting clunky 
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and I have to update the installation on, well, about 6 machines
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Anyone a gimp fan?
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, but I'm hoping the new unified interface will make it not suck 
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: all my ladies must have all their parts.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: What picture formats can handle transparency
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: PNG is a good one, Tlaloc
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude agrees!
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: GIF can, but because of the limited palette, it's only decent for line drawings and comic art
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: PNG is good for photos or simpler drawings
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: does the gaardian site have a list of portals by chance?
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look on the Aardwolf wiki
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: don't think so, but the aard wiki does
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a list there.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: don't think so.  Someone's got a google spreadsheet that I think might still be releatively up-to-date.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i went to iwuvaard and it is kinda dated
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: iwuvaard needs to be overhauled some.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's probably almost time to just take that horse out and put it out of its misery.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I submitted something over a year ago. It has not shown up.
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: well, mojo doesn't play anymore, so it's not surprising
T3/r4/2011-09-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Who is incharge of the website besides Mojo?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: what's the regular expression look like for "match nothing or everything"?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: .*
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: . is any character, * is 0 or more
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: thanks, had that, but my count is off.  trying to get a pattern to match "word, which may or may not be followed by other text"
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: can't get the break between the word and whatever may or may not be trailing it.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud with a #cond using within lines if it fails to match is there a way to make it output information
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Hi Fiendish & others, I'm on Mushclient 4.77. In the wiki I found about the "mapper XXX" commands and started to use them. Currently I only have the academy portal, but normally I wield a candle for their INT+1 stat.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the problem?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: he's having difficulty selecting 4th gear
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably a bad synchromesh
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: (moment, I have to look for the command, did this yesterday evening... more follows)
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch: are you wondering how to set your portal up to equip your portal before entering?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Okay, now I have it. I want to enter 'mapper portal hold "academy portal"
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: but this doesn't save the correct command into the sql database
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: oops, the client stole the semicolon
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Okay, now I have it. I want to enter 'mapper portal hold "academy portal"<SEMICOLON> enter' at the right place
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: double up your semicolons
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use ;; instead of ;
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volcanic Vulcaned Tech: if you use portals a lot I suggest setting up an alias so all you have to type is something like mapper portal portal XXX to set a new portal loc
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or what Vulcaned suggests
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the way to make mushclient not eat your semicolons on the input line is to use ;; instead of just ;
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volcanic Vulcaned Tech: I use ^portal (.*)$, so command "portal XXX" will: get xxx chest, wear xxx, enter, and then dual wield/hold something appropriately
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: we had a fun discussion how we'd need four ; when doing that
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in order to say ";;" I am actually typing ";;;;"
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volcanic Vulcaned Tech: the escpae char is a semicolon?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bit of a non-standard escape char
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define a standard escape char for an input line
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: \
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud doesn't have a default escape char at all for the input line as far as I know
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and \ isn't a standard anything
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's because zmud is poo
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \ happens to be used in c-style strings
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, and javascript and java, probably in ms's languages
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which makes it very widely used
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lua patterns use %
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud uses ...what...~?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well wouldn't it be nice if people thought about what to use to keep things similar
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but i'm particularly amused by the confusion since semicolon is end of line for so many things including sql
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, this is academic. I suspect Hosch is satisfied with the answers given.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: aye
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: what do I need to do to get the mapper to route through closed clanhall rooms, in mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you need to walk through them
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: either construct elaborate cexits or get your clan to flag them as mappable
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: oh
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can at least create cexits from nomap rooms now
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I added a "portalaca" alias and used that in the "mapper portal" command
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper cexits in nomap (and hence no gmcp uid) rooms are based on room name, so two rooms with the same name in the same area will conflict
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no way around that
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Is the mapper intelligent enought to use this portal over a "recall" command (which consumes more moves)?  If not, I simply don't add the recall point to the mapper ...
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: one up for zmud :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you can create cexits from your clan recall to your clan portal room
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Horsch: it will use whatever is fastest and opt for your custom commands over standard neswud directions if equivalent distance
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Feral Farkyss's weird actions.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i guess at some point Lasher will put uid in quest and cp requests
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hope not
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so do I, but it is inevitable
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think so
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: let us hope you are right
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the limit of my correctness over time approaches 100%
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: odd, so does mine
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: leaving the only unknown being how much time that takes.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Can "open south" actions added via "mapper cexit" ?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use "open south;;south"
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or similar
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: A tip: add this ; tricks to the help that's inside the aard_GMCP_mapper.xml file, and/or possible to the wiki page
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: it's very helpful that way
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude agrees!
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I also just read that recently visited links are made thicker. I haven't noticed this before. Maybe I to modify the .xml file to make them even thicker...
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they're not made hugely thicker because I'm not convinced it's actually useful information
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: you might be right. Having some marker for never-visited-rooms might be better. Or not, not sure...
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: for example, in the academy, "exploredu
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: ... in the academy "explored" says that I have only explored 51% of the rooms. And yet "mapper unmapped here"'s output is empty.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: the academy comes mapped
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Riddim, yep, it's mapped. But I haven't been everywhere :-/
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can unmape it with purgezone
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unmap
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i've added tips about ;; to the online faq and also to the mapper help for the next release
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: is anyone running zmud on win7
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: on win 7
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: yea
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w7 x64 even
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: i'm having problem seing white (@w) colors
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no problems here
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know where the cexit data is stored? Can't find it in the standard db file :-(
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone good with netbeans here?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For java?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, but just ask.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Vakieh: is there any other flavour?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: just ask
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, but that's just them trying to be more like Eclipse
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only any good for java
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: curious, anyone know why they dropped Ruby / Ruby on Rails support?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, wait. I don't know if he means Netbeans the IDE or the Java concept.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: when I have a <script> </script> code in a jsp file, and I'm typing in it, the stupid program highlights it in this really bright greenish white
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The IDE.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and I can't find the place to change that
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Been a while since I was on it, but it used to be the same place you changed your indentation settings
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah tools-->options
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lemme see if it's still installed
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: but from there I can't find it
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://wiki.netbeans.org/Java_EditorUsersGuide#How_to_use_Semantic_Coloring
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: also when I highlight a string for example ".square" all the instances of it are highlighted in this crappy colouring as well
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wasn't installed, but I kinda knew what I was looking for
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: vakieh that site doesn't help me much, I already know where to change the settings but I don't know which one to change, and there are a ton =(
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ooooooohhhhh I thought you couldn't find the settings page :-P
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tbh netbeans bugged me so much I went with Eclipse - a great day, that
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: well, there is something on that page that clarifies it, it's called java synax-based selection, and doing those things does make the highlighting area become bigger/smaller, but I want to remove it entirely =(
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I can't not use it, my school dictates we use it
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, was it the colour you wanted to change, or the highlighting in general?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the highlighting
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: either
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Either change the colour, or get rid of it
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, my uni had the same policy - writing an ANT script in Eclipse and converting it into Netbeans afterwards worked wonders
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: well, I have to do a labtest on netbeans so I need to get used to it. I love notepad++
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, hmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well the colour is just a case of finding the right semantic...try searching for the colour code?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I don't know the colour code
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's just ugly
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: =((
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't recall if the list of semantics lists them with the colour as background - bummer if it doesn't :-(
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: is there any documentation on how to upgrade mush to the new version?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The aard main page, under 'play aard'
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, it's on the main site of aardwolf
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: oh
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quintosh Tech: how do you set the spellup to autocast
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could write a trigger to react to spell tags
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: god damn you, windows copy dialogue. is it 30 minutes or 30 hours remaining? make up your friggin' mind
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: seen that xkcd comic?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: windows file copy is not a background-friendly thread. so if you don't keep the window active it will slow down to almost 0
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can easily get the time estimate up to thousands of years that way
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://xkcd.com/612/
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never noticed it
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, didn't think i ever got used to trackpoint, but here i am...
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not sure about vista or 7, but the file copy thread was not properly kept active when backgrounded in XP
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ack... xp
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's part of the reason why the mac os file copy estimation was historically much better
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wish i had copy estimation and progress bars in bash
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: simple task prioritization
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think wget has a progress bar, i don't see why you couldn't do it
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: hunt down the 3rd party copy replacements...
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: terracopy is quite good
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Twisting FatesDagger nods at Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, it seems to me that windows estimates shorter time when copying a single 10 gig file than 10000 files of 1 gig total
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's entirely reasonable
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: assuming you have large blocks of space free
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a single large write to sufficient space avoids head thrashing
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and if you copy a mix of big and tiny files (like i am right now), it's not quite sure how long it'll take
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thousands of small writes have significant structural writing overhead
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try copying a directory structure where 100 folders each have 100 folders which each have 100 folders which each have a small file in them
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it'll take a week
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or deleting thousands of tiny files
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: for some reason mush updates my minimap 2-3x every time I move, so annoying.. anything I can do about that?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: remove plugins that request room info
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how do you notice it?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you capturing the minimap to a floating window?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: flicker would be my guess
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the ascii map plugin is set up to request the map again when certain things happen. for example, it tries to know when a door opens or closes nearby and updates the map when that happens
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: I connect here with "socat readline tcp4:aardmud.org:23,crnl" in a screen session.. Can anyone recommend a curses-based mud client for linux I could use instead?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: how u make a cexit in mapper with split commands
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double the ;
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: for instance sleep then stand
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ! ty
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: mapper cexit command 1;;command 2;;command 3;; etc
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or can create an alias and cexit the alias
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i have too many of those and i get so confused at this point just looking at them.... forget changing something
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: No linux command-line MUD client recommendations?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue & tintin++
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: command line is for suckers
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: run a windows shell and use mush
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use tinyfugue, personally
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yeah, it's cheating to kill mobs without toggle switches.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: works well with screen, has xterm 256 color support, etc
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: unless u auto kill qmobs do cps on trigger ur doing it all wrong imo
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It takes me all day to arrange the right sequence of wires to send "kill fly"
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: i'll look into tinyfugue. thanks, abelinc
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm pretty sure the pigeons are faster, Fiendish.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, sure.  Wouldn't want to level TOO fast and lose sight of the important things, wouldja?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: fiendish u need more pigeon support for mush imo
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: don't ya mean pidgin or whatever that jabber client is?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: O_O
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, TTYtter is a nice CLI twitter client...I have tinyfugue send stuff to it ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: real men use bitlbee
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why do you ruin tf by infecting it with twitter?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: last post to twitter.com/aardstats: Brome used a daily blessing, doubles for 10 mins #AardStats
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: I want to infect mushclient with twitter. I wanna be able to tweet through mushclient. that would so rock.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: post before that: MILLION MOBS! doubles for an hour #AardStats
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: bitlbee is wonderful. screen with mutt and bitlbee works for me
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: irssi + bitlbee here
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bitlbee's a bit of bloatware for my needs :P
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, twatter is 100% bloat
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, then why do you run a client for it }:>
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bitlbee is a im client. twatter support is just an extra feature
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: twatter only bloats every four weeks or so.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burger Tech: why cant I set an alias, in game or in client, to do "mapper portals" ?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in-game wouldn't work because it's an in-client command
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burger Tech: the client alias spells out "mapper portals" on my screen, just as I type it, but it doesnt execute
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can do it in mush easily enough
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: set it to execute, not send to world
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burger Tech: ah, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: abe talks the truth here
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: welllllll.....
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burger Tech: I just overheard yall talking about that, and it opens up a -whole- new style of game play lol
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always the truth, just not always wanted
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: abe always logs the truth, his memory's not always up to logging-standard, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if he's wrong, he looks it up in his logs and then dramatically gasps "I was wrong on the internet!1eleven"
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: showdesc etzli
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL hunches his shoulders, wrinkles his face, and squints at you.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: is there a way to add clanskill to bast spellup, i did bsp sadd cskill but it says not practiced
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hack the plugin to not care
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: technically you dont "cast" cskill either so didnt know
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in cmud, do I need to create a separate connection via the sql commands to do sql queries on the map, or can I take advantage of the mapper window already having the map open?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: what is Trace do in mushclient???
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saarnash, trace does what trace usually does in programming...tells you what it is doing each step of the way
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn it on briefly and it's pretty quick to see what it does
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Major spam 9-)
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mekhar Tech: I am getting "
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mekhar Tech: I am getting "Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a pervious error. How can I fix it?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mekhar Tech: I am getting "Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a pervious error. How can I fix it?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mekhar Tech: sorry if you responded, the client killed responses I think.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That message doesn't tell you anything.  It's the previous error that's relevant
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you reinstall that plugin, the message will go away until you get another error from that plugin.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which will tell you what went wrong
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mekhar Tech: Thanks! I will try that.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: when did the wearable command get added?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Long time ago?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: really Ive never seen it
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's been in since v1, I think...
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: you dont even like commands 
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: yes i do ringo... like pray for divorce, or confiscate
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to get the mapper in mush to not think that a particular portal is a good shortcut to take?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: level lock it?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: can you add levellock later?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper portallevel
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: well, it's the portal to soh.  I want to use it for soh, but it winds up on the far side of a locked, no-pass door.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lock the exit through the door
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can add level locks on regular exits now
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in the latest snapshot
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is that 1340?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: Does levellock take tiers into effect?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: is there anything you dont think of?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm.  what's the syntax for that look like?  not seeing anything "levellock" in mapper help.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right-click on the (from) room and choose Change Exit Level Lock
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I still need to add a way to display all locked exits in a list and change/add from the command line
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: so, will setting it to "301" lock it for all tiers?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: nice.  thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or 999 or 10000
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: but if you are setting it to 301 why not just delete it
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: anything over 291, I guess.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: deleting it is not a permanent solution. it will just get remade if you ever pass through
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: ah
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: at some point (likely when I'm in that level range), I may have the key.  but I don't think I ever really want to speedwalk through that part.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway if you lock the exit out from the door, then it shouldn't use the portal as a shortcut to other areas
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: very slick.  mapper's routing differently now.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: HOlliday: I think only of the things that other people tell me they think would be useful
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm actually not that good at coming up with more ideas for features on my own
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'd like the mapper to make me toast.  Delicious, perfectly cooked toast.  
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Jam would definitely be a feature.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's the purpose of flagging rooms norecall?
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: - 20
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: there's only one feature I'm looking to get rid of.  the intermittent black screens aren't much fun.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: ooh, real time DPS graph like the network traffic graph :P
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can also mark portals as being "recall" which means you then don't try to recall through norecall rooms
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I will probably improve how the norecall/noportal stuff works soon
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, I haven't figured out the norecall stuff yet.  I've marked rooms, but it doesn't seem to help speedwalks.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: norecall is less useful than noportal, since you probably don't use recall all that much
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but as I said, the norecall flag specifically won't help you unless you actually mark your "recall/home" portals as such
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: norecall stops home too though, and people probably home a lot
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You use a fair bit if you've got some good manor links.
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: also if you run through clan links, or clan exits near aylor recall
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aard amulet can get you there too, though
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or academy portal
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but you'd need to swap portals
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so people may not want to use that in their alias as it's a couple of extra steps
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (i prefer home;d over rem portal;get portal bag;wear portal;en;wear portal;put portal bag)
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: can't imagine why....
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my spouse's manor doesn't have a down exit
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually, it doesn't have an entrance either as far as I can tell
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wow hax :p
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: kinda
T3/r4/2011-09-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you mean no porch? how does that work? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demaciado Tech: Is there a guide somewhere for setting triggers for MUSHclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demaciado Tech: Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demaciado Tech: mis
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Is there no equivalent to zMUD's paths on MUSHclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is, but it's not useful
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Hmm. What's my best bet for setting up SWs through the hotel, then?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the gmcp mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: What is this devilry you speak of?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you using the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Yeah
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: The one from aardwolf.com, anyhow
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: is the one on your site newer?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone play Civilization V, having a hard time installing it ><
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Ah, I apparently do have that, then. The big mappy thingy
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there a way to make totem display videos at 1:2 ratio without having to set that option every time the next video on the playlist loads?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is all the map data in aardwolf.db? and only the map data?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone else having issues with the latest snapshot of Bast's statdb plugin? It isn't recording daily blessing info on a quest fail - fixable manually, but def. a bug
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Anyone use Haskell?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc waits for the laughter, or crickets
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what's a Haskell?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: any advice on setting up the tinyfugue client? I'm not sure what it's capable of..
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Check out Abelinc's page
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: where's abelinc's page?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: finger abelinc
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tylen Tech: k, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any idea how to extract the comments from Google Spreadsheets?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: with tintin, is there a way to temporarily stop action processing?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: yes, type #ignore
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How exactly do you mean?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: then type #ignore again to resume
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: that works, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: West Side Garl rapidly nods twice at Mcmartin, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Doesn't work for me, though. Which version of tintin do you have?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: trurien The only way it might not work is if you have # your command char set to somethign else besides #
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It just shows me a list of ignores.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: 2.00.6
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think I have 1.99.6.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 1.99.8 here.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: Trurien how do you tur off your triggers then?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: Trurien how do you tur off your triggers then?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: oops sorry:)
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't, never thought of it. I just reload them anew.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: weird...Well, #ignore has always been the command to temporarily disable all triggers, so as to stop a loop or something...Don't know what setup you may have, but I'm curious about it:)
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: oh wait, you mean it shows you a list of ignored phrases, or players in aard?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: #help ignore: It toggles a list, so I can choose to #ignore #actions, for example.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}West Side Garl Tech: oops gotta go...bb in a bit
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: for css, how do I spread out my menu? My menu code is currently #menu { display: block
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: for css, how do I spread out my menu? My menu code is currently #menu { display: block; margin-right: 1px; padding: 13px 20px 10px 20px; text-transform: uppercase;font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: normal; color: #FFFFFF;align: left;}
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Is it possible to install Mushclient on a Chromebook?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i doubt it
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: looks like chromebook can only run chrome apps
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Yeah, that's pretty much what I figured.  But was hoping anyway :p
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it probably is possible
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Well, I'm gonna completely wipe the hard drive. Not sure if I should do linux or xp first.. cause i know when i tried ti before grub completely got rid of MBR.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Oops, mischan. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sounded very much ON channel
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: That's why I accidently said it on tech. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i do the same thing.. think tech.. write tech accidentally
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So unless someone here wants to give me tips.. Considering dual booting on my new laptop, not sure what I need to know. ^.^
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that would explain my mischans to the sex channel.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Alright, I'm feeling really stupid.. Just did a fresh installation of XP on a laptop, and now I can't seem to remember how to get the drivers for the NIC's so I can actually install the rest of the drivers.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sneakernet
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mine came with an install disc
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: laptop manufacturers tend to have driver download websites
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Alright. Wasn't sure if that was usually supposed to be the way to go or not.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sometimes
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though if you start out wired it shouldn't matter
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree fiendish
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: The ethernet driver's aren't preinstalled either.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what laptop?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Dell Latitude d620
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/devices.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&SystemID=LATITUDE%20D620&os=WW1&osl=EN
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: ahhh the wonders of the internet
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: obviously you'll need to download them somewhere else and move them over on a usb key or disc
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: my friend has the d620
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 7 goes on it np
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Yeah. I'm just used to having to install an external wireless card when reinstalling windows so i've nver had to do this.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: heh. i just finally threw away all my resue type floppys.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: floppies!
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Yay floppies!
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Haven't got the installation software or the memory to put win7 on this one.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it doesn't have 1g ram/
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: It's got one gig. but I need more t run other stuff at the same time as 7. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you could run a spacestation with 1G an linux
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yes, but not windows.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: agreed the mouse animation is quite resource heavy
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm currently running win 7 on a d600 with 512 ram
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Tempted to do linux on here. never really used it though, not sure what I'd use it for.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's whay happens to me when i think about linux... like wtf for? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Mainly got the computer to do some programming on the go, only languages i really use are c++ and java.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: I wouldn't dream of using anything but Linux, but then again I have been using it for nearly its entire existence.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that must have sucked
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't even like xp anymore, 7 spoiled me
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I like xp when i want simple.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: not so sure whats so special about win7 thats what ihave 
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's like any windows, going back to the older versions is painful
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm still very happy going back to XP from win 7
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I found it really easy to go from Vista to Xp.....ME to 98 was simple as well iirc
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lesson? skip a release.
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: why would you want to downgrade?
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: less memory and graphics used
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hardly
T3/r4/2011-09-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone good with JSON in java?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Huzzah, more troubles. Can't access hotmail.com or outlook.com, and found out trying to go to msn.com redirects to localhost. Any ideas?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: reboot everything?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: check your hosts file
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You've already checked your hosts.ws file?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Yeah.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: chect hosts file
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What browser?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: hosts only has the one 127.0.0.1 localhost thing.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Both Chrome and IE.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: out of curiousity, have you tried pinging the sites from the command line?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Can you ping hotmail.com from the cmd line?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Stop reading my mind, people!
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaginary Wissie Tech: hotmail is down atm
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Well, hotmail.com works, but when it tried to redirect to mail.live.com, it doesn't work.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not down on my end, Wissie.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: MSN pings gets an ip address but times out.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaginary Wissie Tech: oh, it was down earlier
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: hotmail?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: msn.com is down.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imaginary Wissie Tech: oh, can access hotmail.com but msn thinger is down
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah... go to downforeveryoneorjustme.com and enter the sites. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: hmm....i wonder if someone propagated some poisoned DNS.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: I can't get into inbox on hotmail
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Good time to switch to gmail... :)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: 8snicker
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli fails to hit the shift key and 8giggles at everyone.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: currently live.com is resolving to something bad for me at the moment.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Got gmail. School e-mail uses outlook though.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So?  Outlook can be configured for Gmail...
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Can it? I know nothing about the technical aspects of e-mail.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it uses pop3 iirc
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Gmail even has a step-by-step guide.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And Imap...
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Just google gmail and outlook.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Before I got eM client (and now Postbox) I was using Outlook with Gmail.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: you do have to turn it on in your gmail account, iirc.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at L33tM4st3r Lashan.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: At least, the IMAP part.  You can still do POP3.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: as for hotmail...try accessing "login.live.com" directly.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: or "login.live.com.nsatc.net"
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: is there there a lua debugger/tester built into mush, or will I need to find a separae one
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can fudge one with echo calls
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: ive never done lua, ive written pseudo code for a plugin I want to make, trying to find someone to debug/test asa I go
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: found one online and one on ipad (iLuaBox)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiucozcatl Tech: is there a way to make the mush mapper not path thru rooms?  can you mark rooms high path cost or notraverse ?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is a level lock in the latest snapshot
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can also remove an exit, if you right click on the room
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiucozcatl Tech: nice that'll do
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The removed exit will often reappear when you go back through the room
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiucozcatl Tech: yeah i figured that, i like the level lock tho
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiucozcatl Tech: <3 mapper unmapped here
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can add level locks to exits by right-clicking on the source room and choosing Change Exit Level Lock
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will keep you from walking through that exit from that room until your level+(tier*10) reaches the lock
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I guess it would make sense for arithmetic to be done by another language than bash, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you happen to be in bash already
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Though I just want to add some values in the columns of some text file.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't call an external program in the middle of a shell script just to do simple math
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: True, but I haven't figured out how to add stuff in columns.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: columns = arguments
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I have this log of traffic per IP which I've sorted into outgoing and incoming, and I want to be able to sum the third column to get total traffic. How could I do this?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do something like set variable 3rd arg + variable...when it's done parsing the file, variable should be the sum
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But I also want to keep track of multiple sums... does Bash have hashes?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or else I'll just write them to another file.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trurien, if the IP is the first field & traffic count to add is the second column, then "awk '{ if (b!="" && b!=$1) { print b,a; a=0; } a=a+$2; b=$1; }' logfilename" should echo summary data per IP
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the $1 and $2 to be whichever fields are appropriate for what you want grouped by and what you want summed, respectively
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks, Abelinc. I haven't played around much with awk.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Might be worth doing so.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as is, that'd work for space or tab separated columns...can use -F, for csv, etc (-F being field separator)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They're tab separated. :) Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, that snipped presumed you ran through sort first, as it's basically saying "if IP is different than the last IP I saw, start new sum"...so you'd want to do sort logfilename | <that awk without logfilename>, possibly with a trailing > summaryfilename
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: snippet*
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup, I'll have to figure the rest out myself. Will ask again if I have problems :) Thanks Abe
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: so im working on Lua plugin, is there a way to have it do constructs on plugin install but then not each time mush is loaded?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is the use case?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: http://pastebin.com/FZM9YVSE
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: its an eq plugin, store sets per level, etc - 
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: verified each function does what it needs at the moment - and there is alot more to go, i just dont want it to wipe out the tables on each load - would kinda suck
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: and there is probably another plugin like it out there, i just want to give it a go - eventually will be changeeq <level> or aardchange <level> - scan swap and all that stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: use SetVariable to save variables in OnPluginSaveState and then GetVariable the variables on OnPluginInstall
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: thanks Bast, i was about to dig into your spellup one to find how you did it
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: every time i open intel cpu box i get very very sad...
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: so much effort put into packing cpu heat sink... yet cpu itself is packed terribly
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Every time I open "her" box, I get very, very sad.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: theres an elaborate fairly well made heat sink packaging... and yet cpu is shoven in a hole on the side
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: drop it on wrong side and say hello to bent pins
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: god the heat sinks for intel still look same as they looked for like p2...
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's pins on them?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and some hair too
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and first thing u always do is toss that heat sink into trash -_-
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL whines pathetically about everything.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: who in their right mind would even bother using intel heat sink on i7 -_-
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i might as well blow on cpu myself. probably just as effective
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i doubt the i7 gets as hot as p4 :P
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hah
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but yeah i ended using a huge copper heatsink on my old p4
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: worked like a charm
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: mugen scyth II FTW
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i had a copper tube with lots of holes and a 140mm fan ontop of that lol
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: made more noise then a helicopter
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc  Holliday Tech: time to move to oil submerged :)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah mine was near silent
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bad thing about mine was untill i polished holes it would whistle at times
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and i still dont like fishtanks all that much... i change hardware too often. fishtank and changing things on mobo its hella messy
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the i7 has pins... why would intel go back to putting pins on their cpu's?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL shrugs helplessly.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i didnt open it yet
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just looked at packaging
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i doubt it has pins
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my liquid cooling stuff is still in transit >_<
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: pins are on the motherboard
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: so i got a whole rig in parts and no point in putting it together till i get my liquid cooling here and tested
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you oc'ing that thing?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yea
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: need all that power for those cpu/gpu intensive mud sessions
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: damn right
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mapper bot needs some serious juice
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sommeil smiles happily.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i need a mapper bot :(
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i blame fiendish for inefficient database compression
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: thems is fightin words
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: plus need a good gpu for them surroun 3d ansii maps
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: not if hes offline lol
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: pny got gtx 580 with stock water cooler loop >_>
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: always thought evga would do it before anyone else
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: evga is probably making a better version, they don't put out crap :P
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: heh true that
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i got me a evga gtx 580 with 3gig vram >_>
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: now i can tesselate mud like theres no tomorrow
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eschelon Tech: Anyone with the Aard Mush client know how to change the background image to a solid color instead of the watermark?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you've got to be kidding :P
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the website says to delete the image, but it that just ends up throwing up errors
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ehh... what background -_-?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the wolf pic
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: webbased one?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eschelon Tech: It's got a nifty wolf looking deal - the downloadable client.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: no idea where the image file is, but for a workaround, just mock up a black (or whatever colour) square replace the file with it? 
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: im on aard mush and i dont see any watermarked wolfs
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It is very subtle...or perhaps not even there for all.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: I do. It's in the background of the main window on mine.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eschelon Tech: That could work, probably not a big enough deal to fret about - I'm sure my eyes will adjust if its not an easy menu thing.  TY all.
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what salv said... if it whines about errors just make same resolution imagine with just blakc
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: black even
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and im still confused what background u all talking about
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tech, too bad it's .png
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: so?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't wanna download something to edit it :P
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: all it means is that it allows opasity
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You can tweak the aardwolf_main_layout plugin...comment out the line which starts 'WindowDrawImage (bgoffscreen, "wolf_logo"...not an ideal solution but works
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: pfft any free image editor
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: open paint, click the filler tool, click to fill black, save as <blah>.png
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eschelon Tech: Thanks all :)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: (replace <blah> with whatever the default image filename is)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanfire Tech: is there a way to remove the missed hits from myself or the mob during a battle?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hi, trying kde... how do i turn on desktopapplets?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: deleting the background image shouldn't give any errors
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: fiend hp
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: fiend almost done with that eq script
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: prolly about half way
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cool
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: have all of my functions , now to itegrate with mush :(
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like you're doing a lot more than I suggested ^_^
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if I can help with any questions, let me know
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well this is my first attempt at a script for mush, so still trying to make it work
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: once I found out I can do remove <slot keyword>
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://pastebin.com/FZM9YVSE
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats what I have so far
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just a tip...
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if instead of doing slots = {"light", "head", "eyes"... you do slots = {light=true, head=true, eyes=true,...
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you can simplify checkSlot down to just return slots[slot]
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess actually return (slots[slot] == true)
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well, either way, depending on how you use the result later
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that makes sense, i was really using it to check during alias if the slot keyword was a valid slot
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: other than that, does it appear Im going in the right direction?
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: first lua attempt and all
T3/r4/2011-09-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't have ideas about direction. I can only make sure it does what you want when you want.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlamacazqui Tech: hmm, anyone able to give a simple explanation as to why the memory usage of aardmush would increase the longer I stay connected. Only using default package of plugin's, and not logging to file.  Output bufer is only about 2meg, but memory usage is going up by about 1meg per hour connected.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Most likely memory leaks.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Fiendish's insidious 'siphon resources off the high-volume users for my foldingome account' plugin? ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I mean folding@home
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone good with java and JSON?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: not me
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: JSON and javascript, somewhat - java, not so much...
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: can while/repeat in mysql be used outside of stored procedures ?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiucozcatl Tech: there seems to be a problem with basts plugin download page
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xiucozcatl Tech: r1469 snapshot is list as available, but the download is 1461
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: morning all
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: question, if no lines had been sent since the prompt would you prefer that local echo go on that line or always on a seperate line for consistancy?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is it possible to get a list of all spellups from the mud -- qspell doesn't let me
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: spells spellup
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's not ALL spells, just the ones you know, Mosi.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: this is the problem -- I'vegot a list from the wiki, but...
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and slist doesn't tell you which spells are spellups
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's a pity that the mud doesn't have a static data dump
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It might be there already. We might not know the commands.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, a static data dump could come from outside the mud --http would be fine, and then pulled into the client
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: slist does tell you if it's a spellup, actually...
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: really Myrkul, how?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh, yes, target, cool
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanfire Tech: I'm using mushclient and everytime I use an item like a potion I get this after I use the command, "{invmon}7,652407893,-1,-1"  WTH is this?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Type 'invmon'.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you using the Aardwolf version of MUSHclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanfire Tech: yup.  it was the invmon.  didn't even know I had it on
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Could be a plugin you were using turned it on, are there any plugins you no longer use? For example, I think bast's stats plugin uses it amongst others
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is a good and similar program to MS Paint?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am trying to put something at a 45 degree angle and I cannot with MS Paint.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paint.net
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: free one?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: irfanview
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gimp
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paint.net is the best alternative imho. gimp is an overkill for a task like that
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thank you.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Ok, trying to set a runprefix with recall then a direction, using mushclient I need it to stop using the semicolon, how do I do that.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: You disable the parsing of the semicolon in Mush by going into your World Properties>Tab Input, then set the runprefix, then re-enable the parsing :)
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is the double semicolon just a mapper thing, then?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scandalar walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Double semicolon?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or prefix the line with a ; will allow you to use single ;'s
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Ah, I see.. Handy to know that :)
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it comes up when talking about cexits.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Thank you.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Ok, apparently I'm stupid I can't find the world properties.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Ok, sorry, I still can't figure out how to disable parsing so I can set a run prefix.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: In MUSH.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: type ;runprefix whatever
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: When I type that it tells me I don't have access to the imm channel.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Found the command stacking option.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: how do I make a multiline alias in MUSH?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Just need to make an alias to get a potion from a bag, and quaff it.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Aliases
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i use macro for quaff
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there is also a good potion quaffer plugin on bast's website
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: f6 to be exact
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i thought potion quaffers was considered botting on aard
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: depends on how you do it
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not the one Swalec made. You have to type something.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: this one just keeps track of how many and where they are
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's not mine, BTW
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh, it is Onsisomething.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Onoitsu2/Bottomfeeder
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: AFAIK you can even use an autoheal, but you run the risk if you afk in a room with an aggresive respawm
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Don't need an autoquaffer, just an alias, and I got it figured out...used to zmud mush is new ground for me.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: as has been mentioend, the pquaff plugin is not an autoquaffer
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: are you trying to alias with the GUI or from a scruipt?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: whats to be defined as auto quaffer quaff is mana/ hp drop below x%
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: I got it, just needed a simple get potion bag, quaff potion alias. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you are using a script, thenm you just put semi-coloins in
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there is one out there already, bast has one
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and it works great
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: No script, just needed to know how to make an alias in MUSH, used to zmud.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: oh ok :) sorry was tryin to help just caught the end of it
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: try ctrl-shift-9
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Anyways thanks for all the help.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Grotstomper, look at that website I posted.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okayk, Game, Configure, Alias
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: there's a shortcut alias.  type #ALIAS {*} {*}
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and it's in there
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: I did.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: fill in the asterisks as needed.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: did i just see bobbies?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: I got it. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec smiles winningly at Grotstomper
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: The Aardmush is pretty sweet looking though...making my mains output look like crap. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Is it possible to have mush-echoed stuff, e.g. mapper output, to become a mud-echo? I'm connecting to computer via phone and it can't see any of the mush-echos
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flan Tech: How do I turn off channel tags?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: tags chan, I think.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: tags off
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: tags channels off, my bad.
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ive been having issues with wifi dropping, can you be PKd if you go link dead?
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just curious
T3/r4/2011-09-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i mean while LD
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to "unmark" noportal from a room in the mush mapper?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a quest tracker/channel reporter in the aardmush client
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there any reason why the mapper would not show a down exit, yet the mapper goto function attempts to use one?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: maybe if there's a bad Cexit there
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. No cexit, but adding/deleting a down exit fixed it - I'm blaming the Mapper Gremlins
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do I change the width of vertical splits in screen? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: iirc you couldn't do that
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, wait
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's ctrl+a+:
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then type 'resize #' (# of lines)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: thanks... but is there a way to do it in the screenrc?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Define split region sizes, that is.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, Ctrl-A-: brings me to some command entry mode.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can use the resize command there
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, OK.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So there's no way to set it in the screenrc, I guess.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think there is
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i've never bothered to touch screenrc. looks complicated
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just launch screen with -U flag couple of times a year and use 2 terminals - one for irssi and the other for whois, grep and other utilities
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fair enough. I'm picking up examples from http://www.softpanorama.org/Utilities/Screen/screenrc_examples.shtml but haven't found a split definition yet.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it seems to me that screenrc has raw commands like the resize one
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm bothered because I think this split thing is nice, and I want to be able to not have to run the same set of commands every time I reattach a screen.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Will have to look into that.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe create a split in the rc and follow it with resize?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait... why not define the splits once and then just keep the screen session running?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or is it your home computer that gets powered down every day?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: people power down their computers?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've heard of such things, yes
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: My laptop gets powered down every day, yes. But I guess I could use screen -r instead of screen -dr?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: They are loud at night bad to sleep
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: personally, i don't really pay attention to startup auto conf since my apps run indefinitely
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have more than one room....
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also, I was thinking of distributing these config files as a sort of tt++ for Aard.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pisses me off every time i have to reboot tho, but i'm too lazy to write something when it happens
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I reboot about once every 2 months
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: you run unix?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no, linux
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: bsd is so much easier to use =)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: same enough
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: and thats why you dont need to reboot as often
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use screen -rd
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes... why use something bad when I can use something good...?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: duck, my machine might be loud, but it's in a uk datacenter, so i don't mind
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Mine isn't, it's in my room
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am an adult, so I keep my puter in one room and sleep in another....
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr... that's not called being an adult. that's called being lonely
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: true enough.... :]
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought being an adult was about being lonely :\
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Who said so?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Seltsimees Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a laptop and a small desktop as a server in the same room where i sleep tho
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: studio apartment :P
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but the laptop is new and dead-silent and the server is a modded optiplex with passive cooling
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the speaker hum from bad wiring annoys me more
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how do I resize or reset the max size of Basts miniwin-spellup?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you meaning the width or the length?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: height
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The length is done by click on the M, goto others, and Max lines.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ta
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mekhar Tech: How can I set up a simple alias in MUSH for a backstab? Like remove my weapons, put on my backstabber, backstab the mob and then reequip with just a "alias (mobname)" type deal?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Abradix Tech: alias bs <mob> to rem weap;equip weap;bs <mob>;rem weap;equip weap. * is your wildcard %1 to define.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Lua question: table.remove removes table indexes by number only.  How would one go about removing a worded index?  For example, I want to remove questdb["total bonus"] from the questdb table.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Obviously, table.remove(questdb, "total bonus") doesn't work.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: questdb["total bonus"]= nil
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Does that actually remove it from the table, then?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I had thought about that, but wasn't sure it would work.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know of a good q reporter script for mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: one that announces to gt also a level reporter as well
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what do you mean by reporter?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like the ones everyone has for zmud - like i have to kill xxx in xxx
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Something that reads the standard q/level output and customises it.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 11 Sep 12:52:12 - (Group) Abelinc: 'Completed quest in 40s'
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and it took me xxx to level
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yup like that :)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 11 Sep 14:12:21 - (Group) Abelinc: 'Leveled in 1d 7h 16m 6s. Killing 52 mobs. Received 16920 and inflicted 507657 in damages. With 2 vorpals & 1368698 gold.'
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you played around with bast's stuff?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have the spellup installed, didnt know which ones were for the reporting
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his events with statdb I think do most of it
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have something for mush that parses the quest you received and helps you get to that room
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his wiki has descriptions for everything
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i thought the "broadcast" ones were just addons
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok cool i ll check that out, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: broadcast ones are behind-the-scenes do-the-work stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're the daemon...then the winiwin ones are the GUI to the broadcast ones
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea thats what I thought, and ive used the miniwindows ones, never did the stats one
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the statdb one basically supercharges some of his other mw ones
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it then stores the info to the database and you can get more granular in reporting
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so i guess i should change my eq plugin to use sqllite db
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Is there a way to remove noportal flag from a room in mushclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ???
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why would you want to? it shouldn't be added unless the room really is noportal...
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Cheryl means from the mapper data
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: yes. well it just added to aardhotel room, which screwed up all my portals. doesnt seem to want to use them anymore
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the aardhotel is noportal :P
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: i know
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Exactly.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, the hotel *IS* noportal
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so... don't you think it makes sense for the mapper to not try using portals in it, since it'll fail?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so removing it from that room would make all your speedwalks fail
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: all my mapper portal exits are prefixed with down
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you screwed up
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remove that from your portal exits. that is a bad thing to have
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: how else can you use 'mapper find' e.g. from hotel, taking portals into account?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to use the questor 9s of recall then.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 8s?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Whatever it is.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your portals should just be "wear the portal, enter, wear the usual item"...the mapper will deal with the down or other directions, that's the whole reason it has the noportal flag
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will get to the nearest non-noportal room, then use the portal
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: when i had it like that, it wouldnt want to use portals when i tried to use 'mapper find' from hotel
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: like now, for example when i want to go to masquerade starting room, with noportal flag in hotel, it will do the whole speedwalk rather than go one direction and use portal
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right now being in a noportal room just makes you run the whole way without using portals
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: exactly
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah... that's not so good.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: rofl
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the next update will make you move to the nearest portallable room and then try to use your portal
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: aha, thanks fiendish
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so "how to do it" is "d;mapper find"
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hey this is why I have betas
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: speaking of the 'noportal' flag....is there a way to get it to differentiate between "room is flagged" and "I got cursed by a mob"?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: recon updates :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't be triggered by curse
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: and, is there a way to clear the noportal flag, for a room that got set incorrectly?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: afaik being cursed sends a different message
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it was for me, in cataclysm.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's the same message
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not yet, except for in the database
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: peasant room.  cityguard cursed me.  the bastard.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess it's only a different message for recall?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: possibly, but i never use recall, just home
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: home/recall are the same thing
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they're not if they give different messages :P
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'd like to request being able to remove the flag somehow, then. :)  I have a room flagged incorrectly.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Beleive only home works in Wyrm, recall wont.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that doesn't make any sense
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's different, doink
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but tye, noportal wouldn't be set for cursed, since being cursed doesn't stop you from using portals
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the rooms are flagged norecall, there's just a roomprog on the home command that transfers you to aylor if you've done the goal
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it's when I use 'home' that the flag got set.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish, wyrm has a goal reward
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using home should never set a noportal message...home doesn't care about noportal
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well I'll worry about wyrm later
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: well, that's what I've been using to set the flag.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you don't need to worry about wyrm, cexits take care of it
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you sure you're thinking of noportal and not norecall flags?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: didn't know there were two flags.  thought there was just the one.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm, two flags....ok, so, it's norecall that I have flagged incorrectly.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: norecall only affects portals if you have them marked as "recall" portals. I may have to change the presentation of this because setting various bits related to this is about to get complicated
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's a recall portal?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a mapper portal that uses home or recall
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, why?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for purposes of bypassing norecall flags, obv
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, if it's using home or recall, it's not bypassing norecall flag
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to know to move to another room first
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: He means so the mapper knows it needs to walk to the nearest non-norecall room, I think.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone using screen on Ubuntu? I can't find the command to set vertical splits in the screenrc.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: anyway, switch my request from "being able to clear the noportal flag" to "being able to clear the norecall flag" :)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: formally request it so that I don't have to remember
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vertical splits were a relatively recent addition to screen
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: will do.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used tmux for more flexible splits before screen allowed them
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I used vertical splits before they were cool
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish i dont have verticle splits yet. how do i do it
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: practice
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Terminator ftw, draggable splits :)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yes, it doesn't matter when who was using it, I'd like to know the command :P
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I once panicked the kernel by touching the motherboard with a screwdriver.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: totally misread 'splits'....
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Vertical splits were never cool.  Hurts my hamstrings just thinking about it.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: erikson... my hamstrings are tautologically taught.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Taut?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: no. taught. educated.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-a |
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's the command to do it within screen, I know. But I need another command for the .screenrc...
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vert_split
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tried that, Abelinc, didn't work for the Ubuntu version somehow.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, but ctrl-a | does work interactively?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Sometimes Ubuntu has a bunch of nested config files that end up overwriting each other.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That might be it, but there should at least be a command that's recognised in the interactive mode.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what is a better material for a padlock, 'hardened steel'  'nickel boron alloy' ' stainless steel ' ?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: they're all about the same price
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: user's .screenrc SHOULD be the last word in override
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, screw it, switch to tmux }:>
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: quitter.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if i want to visualize the temperature gradient along a submerged pipe and cooling stack in which compressed air flow will be directed.... is there a good linux-compat or bsd utility to use?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok =( i guess i need to learn how this graphic calculator works then
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I'm looking for math/pathfinding technique's name used in the gmcp automapper of mush :)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: The technique used to calculate how to display the map I mean.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can check out the mapper lua file to see what it's doing
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Wanted to read some more on t, but it seems I forgot what it is called and can't find any references
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pathfinding itself is probably Dijkstra, not sure tho, plenty of spf algorithms around...the drawing is more based simply on the n/s/e/w stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Oh could it be, it was sparked by a conversation back then, maybe in the end the mapper doesn't use what I mean
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: can anyone remind me of the command to test the xterm colors in mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can just type "color 256" as a MUD-side command
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, was hoping for the one that gave me the English words to use, to substitute into things like ColourNote.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is a command in the aardwolf mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that would be the one I'm looking for.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: showxterm
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ah.  ok.  nothing with the english text, by any chance?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: like, 'chartreuse' equals 118 or something?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what are you doing?  that is usually implementation specific
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the gag command for mush
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there isn't one, make a trigger and omit from output
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Aha,finally found it : http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=10273&page=3
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Anyone know for a super simple IDE like Textpad for Java that I can get on Ubuntu?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: vim isn't simple enough?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno that I'd call textpad an IDE...
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: so uh
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: anyone know much about graphics in laptops?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how to get x screensaver to work even with screen locks?
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You unplug your computer, toss it out the window, and wait.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: etzli can i toss you out the window first? =)
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What I want to say is too mean, so I'm going to be nice and not say it to you at all.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: let him do it, he'll give you his computer for free.
T3/r4/2011-09-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: thats ok, we can use tells instead etzli =)
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to echo out the ansi colors received, in a mush trigger/
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec uses a self-executing, anonymous function in lua and feels good
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's nice huh? :D
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: makes you feel all.. hard core
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, although, it just to avoid a nested if/then/else which is pretty pathetic really
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: like javascript uses them because it's notion of scope is broken
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: anyone know a good webside where i can download ebooks, preferably "free"
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gutenberg.org
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: thepiratebay.org
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your local library
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: is there any client for nokia phones?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: symbian? I doubt it.
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midpssh
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: why is my mushclinet mapper gone?!?!?!
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's been stolen by an evil overlord
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: solar flares
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you will now have to map on squared paper, oldschool
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: UNLESS the evil overlord steals their paper too
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: its just not there
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: what the heck is wrong with mushclient and how do I fix it?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try file -> plugins, click add, select aard_gmcp_mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: do you have backups in your db backups folders
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: its on my plugins window but the window isnt openning
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: type "mapper show"
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: does nothing
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: and its ascii mapper not gmcp
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: hellooo?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: can anyone help me -_-?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm not sure anyone can tell what you ractaul problem is
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delravian, type "tags"...is Global On, and is MAP YES?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delravian Tech: yes it is the musclient mapper window is just not open. i have normal map but thats all
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: anyone know of some linux software that can make a snapshot of a drive
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ooo typo in the potsearch help haha
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: hehehe i love it, potsearch!
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: reminds me of 1 am after the bars in college
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: bleh ive gagged the CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT: for donations but they still show up in com log - mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to just turn them off
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: info claninfo maybe
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: well thatll turn them all off though prob
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you're gagging them anyway, why have them on?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: The aardmush doesn't require tags to be on any longer does it?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Anyone have a link to a spellup script for MUSH?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: finger bast
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Thank you.
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grotstomper Tech: Thank you.quit
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: interesting
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Quest finished for 16+2+6+E = 48qp. It took 00m:36s. Avg: 27.00 qp/quest over 8 quests.
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Anyone got any idea why my flash drive causes Ubuntu to stall everytime it tries to read it? Other flash drives work, and this one works on other computers.
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypop Tech: Might it have the same label as an already mounted drive?
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: It does not.
T3/r4/2011-09-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypop Tech: that was my best guess... sorry. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how do I force the GMCP mapper to save it's database?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Is it normal that on the aardwolf wiki the link to "Create account" (upper right) leads to a page with "Password required" ??
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think that's the way it's done. I don't recall offhand, but there is a place where you can find the default password, then change it later.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: So basically account-creation is disable there?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: disabled, my english sucks
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No it's not, but you have to ask someone else :P I really can't remember how I got my account there since I don't often contribute to it.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Have to write a note to the Imms, as far as I remember.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I think they did it that way to prevent trolls from messing with the wiki.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Though I'm not 100% on that - just seem to remember that being the reason.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also, surprisingly, help wiki has hints.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Haha... right there, yep.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Should have thought of that first as a helper, but I guess spamming one channel with pointers to helpfiles is enough :P
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Thanks, that did the trick. It did not occur to me to look in the aardwolf-server's help pages on how to get access to the pmwiki. Again, thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If I downloaded 90% of a file, and still have the .part file, is there any way to tell Firefox to just download the rest of it, rather than starting at the beginning?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not sure Firefox supports resuming downloads.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If so, I don't know how it would go about.  I usually use third part applications like jdownloader.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, think any of those apps would work on an already existing .part file?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I'm not too sure they would.  It would be nice if they could, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Apparently the extension Downthemall will do what you want, based on a first glance over of the google search.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, googling now.  I might be able to do it.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: downthemall works well, i been using it for ages and never had any issues
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Gotta run for now, though
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Will try later today
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Same here.  Work calls. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is anyone here savvy with skype
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No but I use it. What's wrong?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when someone invites me to group chat, it automatically accepts
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm assuming you've been through the settings looking for options?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe it knows you're desperate?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye I checked settings but might've missed it somewhere
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but that girl just wants to find a good husband!
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Maybe it's in ... Privacy settings?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh wait, group chat, not a call... hang on..
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no not there
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well I'm using the Linux version, but I think you can find something to turn off automatic acceptance of all chat requests.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Then again, that's slightly different from what you want...
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, I don't think it's in the settings. But I'm sure it should be there somehow.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: man first time seeing teselation on your monitor can only be described as ORGASMIC
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have it under Options->Chat.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: When somebody starts a chat with me: (3 options to choose.)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: -> display an event notification
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: -> create a minimised chat window
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: u display orgasmic events?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can disable the alerts for the group
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: -> open a chat window in front of me
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I just don't want to be added to gay groups
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that my friends decide to create
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, OK.. don't think there's that option.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How about setting yourself to DND, permanently?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I wanna chat with people
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just not added on their demand
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's teselation?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i keep getting this annoying pop up from apple software update, but afaik i have no apple software installed. Any idea how to trace what is calling it?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: YOu have quicktime?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: it doesn't say when software it's trying to update?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: what software, rather
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's calling it is the apple software updater
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "apple software update"
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: windows?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, i'm on windows
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look in your startup items
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at some point you installed something that installed it
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea what the program is called?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: apple software update?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shakes his head.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's somewhere
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah google tells me it's under scheduled tasks
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose the alternative is malware pretending to be it
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which would be pretty funny
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: guess i should have done that from the start
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just letting everyone know its a wootoff today
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old man Joshu Tech: sweet!
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: they need a prac all.spellup command
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akavir Tech: how do I get Zmud to capture group chats in a diferent window?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: check out the #capture command
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akavir Tech: #TRIGGER {(Group) Akavir} {#CAP groupchat}
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akavir Tech: thats the code i try to use but it doesnt work, I change Akavir to a %1 and it still doesnt work
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Want to talk about it?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Akavir: http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/ChannelCapture/index.html
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akavir Tech: k thanks i'll try there
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/ChannelCapture/HowToMakeChannelTabs.html
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i went to http://www.porn.com/Fiendish .. it's scary
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Winkle, I got a page not found error
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I got "WinkleWinkle" (redirected from A Bad Troll Attempt)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in much, is there a way to highlight a bunch of alias or triggers so they can by copied and pasted to a new version of the client?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mush not much
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Yes...there is even a copy function in the list
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how, shift click isnt doing it
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just select them, click the copy button
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes, I'm trying to use that, I've done it before too
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: and in MUSHclient all stuff is stored in text file
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shift-arrow and shift-click work for me
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'm not getting the multi select thing
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you in tree view?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'll try shift arrow
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no, i took it out of tree
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off tree view
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: k
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=4776
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, the arrow is doing it, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: you can also open your worlds/Aardwolf.mcl file with a text editor to see the XML of the triggers
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats bast's website for his plugins?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's generally the answer for "what's <player>'s website?" ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc, whats a good website to find music to attach to client triggers?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what client?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: tinyfugue
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wherever you usually find music
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: barnes and noble's cd section
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Abelinc, what's a good website to find information on how to use google?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client triggers are ancillary to the music
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.lmgtfy.com :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I prefer AltaVista
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: mendaloth really, i find alta vista to be too commercial
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to the noncommercial google ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yes really, if you take today's date and subtract 10-15 years.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I do like Bing's data retention policies better than google, but it's so hard to switch, and even harder to switch to a MSN product.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: even harder o swap to a punch card OS..
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (*sigh*)  wish the installation page on his wiki site said more in the final step then "Use File->Plugins to Add the plugins you want to use".
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that really is the final step for installation
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: like which ones you kinda have to install to get the others working.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll auto-install prerequisites
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and you can install plugins while offline, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however some other ones you can install with enhance some others
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like the statdb plugin increases functionality of all the stat-based plugins
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or my mapper extender that'll let you query the mapper db differently
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i remember when I waw first installing his stuff that there was one or two that had to be installed before any others or they didnt intall right...
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: a tab one?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the tabbar one increases the functionality of all the miniwindow ones
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: guess I'll just write down which ones i'm using here and add in the same ones for my alt
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives them a single interface
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i have two bast windows, one called events, lists quests, and mob lists for gqs and cps.  and another window called stats, where i can see stats, levels, quests, cps, gqs, and kills, info on these.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what's the right text from server to hook if i want to make a loud announcement to ftalk every time my death blow skill succesfully strikes?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: prepare to lose whatever friends you have
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish nah, my death blow skill never works
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah that text you wanna type is "quit quit" j/k
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i will stand by you always
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i echo that stuff to grouptalk.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the text is "Whopped, VampireDude's death blow skill finally worked"
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: cera right, or to gt. but i need to still know what text to watch for from server
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I send a message to ftalk with a vorpal counter, don't remember losing anyone over that :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: more approiate there, and only i see it if I'm not grouped
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: gotta have friends to lose them
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it was a joke. I'm sure vampiredude doesn't have friends
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Anyone ever make a stat counter to figure out how many trains they need to max stats?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone remember offhand what you should send to to get hyperlinks to work in a Mushclient trigger?  I recall sending to 12 doesn't work with hyperlinks right?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can give you a sample one
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Hyperlink("execute command here", "<desc here>", "<hint here>", "lightblue", "black", 0)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I know how to use them in general, I just have one that isn't working, and thought I came across something that said it was because I was sending to 12, and not some other number.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that sample will send to execite  if you need to esnd to script i'm not sure of the syntax
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^execute
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oooh found it. Duh right in hyperlink page on mushclient "Do not use the Hyperlink function in a script called by "sendto:script" from a trigger, if that trigger omits from output. The mechanism for preserving the "noted" output does not preserve hyperlinks. Use "sendto:script (after omit") instead."
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle :)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That was the issue before just couldn't remember exactly when it gqame cup.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Hmmm.  I can't help but think this is odd: when I type "mapper areas", the output for wayhouse is "The Adventurers Wayhouse", but the name of the area has an apostrophe in "areas wayhouse" and in campaign/gquest lists etc.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: There doesn't seem to be a problem with Zangar's Demonic Grotto and other areas with apostrophes.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Why is that one area off, I wonder?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Ok, beyond my skillset so far. How do I change it so everytime my computer sees text, oh for example, the word 'Good' it changes it to 'Awesome'
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: With Mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I can certainly put in a special case for when I care about it, but I'd rather know what is the root of the problem.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Jhav, I mean for my personal client, wouldn't happen for anone else
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i can't imagine that list gets updated very often, jhav...it probably ships in the mapper database that's included in the client, so it might just be wrong there
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: LOL, sorry
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: just change that record in the database, no need to code special cases
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Since I got confused before, I'll ask again. How do I change it so everytime my computer sees text, oh for example, the word 'Good' it changes it to 'Awesome' on Mushclient.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}El Gringo Asterax Tech: anyone have an Incredible 2 by HTC?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unplugged Abradix Tech: in mush, how do i bring back the chat window? it doesnt seem to have anything to do with the view button...
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avvery Tech: probably have to reload the plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: what do you mean by bring back?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you mean by "view button"?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i'm guessing he meant menu?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone willing to write me a tf + openbsd compatible trigger that will take QUEST:you may now quest again and play a ~/tf-dir/quest.wav  ?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i can pay aard gold
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I only work for real gold.
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Does Pandora Radio have audio ads now, or just graphical ads?
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they occasionally have audio ads for pandora paid service
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: OK, haven't used it in years
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zypop Tech: pandora has audio and visual ads on the website. (Listening now..)
T3/r4/2011-09-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampiredude, /def -F -t"QUEST: You may now quest again." quest-time = /sys splay quest.wav
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to get bloodstains out of jeans?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: peroxide.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but wont peroxide bleach the jeans?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: nope.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: don't bleed
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: leges i can't stop
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Used to train cadaver dogs, trust me, peroxide works lol.  It will "boil" the blood out of the fabric, without damaging the material.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Rat poison is a blood thinner...soak em in that?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but what about the dye?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vakieh which kind of rat poison
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis what is a cadaver dog?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: rat poison will eat a hole in your jeans - just use peroxide.  cadaver dogs are dogs that are trained to find dead and decomposing human remains.  I have a whole freezer full of body parts, including my placenta from my daughter last year.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis , congratulations
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tmi...so very much tmi
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: thats interesting...creepy but interesting :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: thanks, but this really doesn't belong on this channel.  just go use peroxide and get it out lol.  and don't wash them first, or you will set the stain and it won't come out.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis if the body liquors are very far gone, can the dogs still find them?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oh. my bad, i thought chemistry was a tech t hing
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: tech is a wide subject imo
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: someone has to do the job - cold cases, people who walk out in fields and suicide, leaving the family with no closure - last year i had a lady jump off an overpass onto an interstate in front of an oncoming semi.  needless to say - we needed the dogs to make sure all the hazardous material was cleaned off the highway.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: can explain the tech behind a lot of things other than computers
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: and my last cadaver dog could alert on remains that were over 50 years old.  one of the ladies that i worked with in the search and rescue field had two dogs that could alert on remains over 800 years old - they were used mainly in searching for possible indian burial sites.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis thats funny, i had a phone call with the local suicide hotline lady discussing an interstate recently
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I also have body parts if my freezer. Cow, chicken, pig etc...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: those are in my OTHER freezer, ranrr.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: this was i44 though i think.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so probably not the same one
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I seriously doubt it - mine was over a year ago.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I guess you don't want to pick the wrong thing....
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis yeah, this one hadnt happened, she asked me how i would do it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i think she had like a checklist to go down.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis rolls her eyes, disgusted.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: those people are usually just looking for attention.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyways though, if the body is in a closed container and decays, can they still find it?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: oh yes.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: from outside?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: that's all that I train on, is decomposed material.  and most containers will absorb the scent and then leach it.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless it is atomically sealed, it can be found
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: like if someone murders me with an icepick, stuffs me in a plastic wrapper, and then into a metal drum, and heat seals it shut 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you would do good on the Breaking Bad tv show
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: dogs have 100,000 more scent receptors than a human.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i wonder how they compare to snakes in that area.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: they can still find the metal drum i'm in though with all my body liquor.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: neat
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol...some dogs - my dog has issues finding bacon I drop right next to it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vakieh, maybe it's jewish/muslim/jehovas witness
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it might feel that pork is bad for its soul
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: try dropping cow next to it...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: the dog has to be trained - a GOOD highly trained cadaver dog will train for 3 years before they are ready to certify, and then they keep training all through their life to remain in deployment condition, and they have to recertify every year.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis so do the dogs find it and then stop nearby, or do they go up to the remains
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: the dogs they have at the border south of here will walk up to luggage and then sit down and fall asleep if there is drugs they find
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: you have to teach them the alert that you want.  for example, my cadaver dog alerted by downing with the item between his front paws, and when I would say "show me" he would touch his nose to the item.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah cool.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i always thought it would be neat to watch a show on how service animals are trained
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: if the item was up a tree, he would down at the trunk, and then go on his back legs and point his nose to pinpoint where in the tree.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i've seen how guard dogs get trained and i've seen how service animals for rehab hospitals get trained
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: it takes a LOT of training to get specific behaviors for each scenario - that is why it takes so long to train them.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but i bet there's lots of other types
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: by 'down' you mean that sit down thing where they almost fall asleep?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: cadaver training is very similar to narcotics and explosives detection training
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: No, by "down" I mean lying down in an alert position with elbows on the ground and head up and alert.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i wonder what the explosives training dogs do when they find the nitrates
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis oh. ok
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: they usually have a bark alert.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i see
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: one time at the border the dogs were quite active.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so i figured they were confused, since i know i didnt have anything =) but i dunno if they were drug or explosive dogs
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: there are many different types of alerts - a touch, with paw or nose, a bark, a down between the paws, a sit between the paws, etc etc
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what about pulling on a leash towards a particular point of the car, being pulled back by the handler, and then rushing right back to that spot 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude peers around himself intently.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: that could just mean that the dog wants to keep sniffing and the handler has gotten no indication of substance and wants the dog to move on.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah, that makes sense.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i got the impression that the dog felt it had found a bone or something so to speak
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but i have no clue.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: just because it's trained to look for one specific thing doesn't mean that the dog isn't going to want to sniff and drool over that spot where some toddler slimed your car with a bigmac.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: good point
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: this was inside the car, but...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: It's all about knowing your dog - that's why they usually only have one handler work with a dog.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis, how much do you feed a dog per month?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: rofl.  Depends on what I'm doing with them.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: that belongs on a different channel maybe
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: also what type of food i'm feeding.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: and of course size and type of the dog.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok, so let's say a standard size yellow lab with no pedigree
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Taki, do they train police (or other service-specialized people) to train dogs, or do they find dog trainers and ask them to learn and perform specialized training?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: currently I have 4 australian shepherds and I feed approximately 65 pounds of food a month.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: wow. only 65 pounds
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and here i was thinking dogs would eat as much as i do.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Only?  That's about $65 worth of food.  When I was training my dogs for search, it was probably triple that.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok... but i never had a pet as a kid.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i always heard that they eat too much. 65 dollars is less than we spent to get the sports channels when i was a kid
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so i grew up thinking dogs were voracious
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Tharnin - some facilities have specialized training programs - others contract out to volunteer groups, for search work, or to special academies that house the dogs - they usually buy the dogs trained.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis when they find canidate dogs, do they get them young, do they ever train rescued dogs from shelters?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and is it true that if a dog tastes human blood it stops being friendy?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: dogs will eat as much as you feed them lol.  what i feed is the proper amount to keep my dogs at working weight without making them fat, based on the amount of activity they have throughout any given day.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: my first cadaver dog was from a shelter.  most facility dogs (detection, narcotics, etc) are bought as trained adults, and no it's not true about a dog tasting human blood.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: k
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Our county just got 2 german shepard pups to be trained 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i think it'd be nice to have a dog that is trained to bark at door to door salesmen.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: suppose to be rdy to work in 2-3 years I beleive
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis nods at Doink.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but finding cadavers or explosives is also important
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: That's about right. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: imagine having a drug finding dog at a high school =)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: or at a bar.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: They deff arent 100% accurate or even close imo
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: my high school would've loved having its own... they were always calling the police to come through off of 'anonymous tips'
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: 'code blue, everyone stay in your rooms, teachers please keep the hallway doors closed'
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: at our school code blue meant law enforcement, not... somebody can't breath/heart attack
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude shrugs helplessly.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: takihisis, how on earth did you get into dog training, ?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RikiTiki Takihisis shrugs helplessly.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I've had animals all my life - was raised on a horse and cattle farm.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: pets first? found a body and decided to share the hobby with others?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah. pets and animals. neat
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Some lawyer in Florida, put a K9 to the test for a court case. The dog failed, and all the cases that it was used in prior had to be thrown out. Years of cases. The dog barked at containers with no drugs, and didnt bark at ones with drugs during the test.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: no - not pets - working dogs - aussies, border collies - herding etc.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: doink i suppose they should've used a psychic instead
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: I was raised that animals were supposed to have a job, so when I grew up and moved out - I started looking for things to do with my dogs so they weren't just lying around the house being hoovers.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nod lol. Aussies are great dogs ^^
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: taki that seems like a good thing.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i wonder... what job cats have
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Mousing.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: tharnin, i dont have any mice
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: my cat catches mice, loves the baby, and keeps the dogs in line lmao.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i wish i had a mouse to eat these roaches
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: keeps the dogs in line? rofl
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: oh yes, he was raised by a dog - i rescued him from my barn when he was 3 weeks old.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: he'll wade right in the middle of the dogs and slap the crap out of them if they are being bad - and furthermore - the aussies have a "leave the kitty" command for if they decide to start trying to herd him lmao
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mmm ctrl+num# do something on win7?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: or is it some of my software doing something funky -_-?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: can i get some help in getting bast's plugin to work?  I'm not getting the tabbed window to show, only the stats window
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: any quick way to area reset the Nick Gannon's Aardwolf_GMCP_mapper?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mapper purgezone xxx
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: sweet , thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, that may be Fiendish specific, idk
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: type mapper help for more commands
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: utll be fiendishs   nick diesnt have a gmcp
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: also, Gammon
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: on phone sorry for typing
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: This plugin is a GMCP version of the ATCP mapper by Nick Gammon.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, if it is aardmush, you're fine - Fiendish made changes
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thanks guys
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to get windows to install into a vmware session ?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way you install it anywhere
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tell vmware to use the media/DVD/ISO, then boot
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: biker ok. 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i'll try again ... it seems to consistently tell me that windows has shut down to protect something
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: resembles blue screen of death
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Try VirtualBox instead. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: virtualbox? let me see if i have that in ports
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It's free open-source.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: C= Amigan is agreeing with that Thwgatrostei person again...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oracle, I think.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, was sun's
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: All the best features in virtualization, so I can run an Ubuntu box under my Win7 box and take up only about 3% cpu power idle.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes its was Sun's program.. don't give crappy Oracle credit for it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: thuga oh... i want a windows guest
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It runs any guest.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok, but i dont have a windows host
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It runs on any host.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Just go look up the damn thing, silly.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: do i want ' fuel extensions ' for virtual box?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Fuel extensions? Uh, never heard of it, so probably not.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: k.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: looks like fetch restrictions on the vmware.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: What distro are you running?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so i'll try virtual box first... thankies much
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: thuga i've got some openbsd --current and some gentoo 'stable' of thw two... the obsd --current seems to segfault less
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: the gentoo segaults about once per 3 days
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: segfaults*
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but thats still better than what i had w/ windows...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: user error
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Best Linux is one based off Debian, from what I've seen. BSD, no idea.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: debian was fun, but aptitude isnt as much fun as it used to be
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Ubuntu -used- to be the best, but...starting to make bad decisions against user choice. Might go back to vanilla Debian.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish nah, i get weird trace dump screens and the keyboard locks up
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a gmcp repop mush plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have an events plugin that has it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: along with other events
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but mushclient has built-in triggers, so why use events plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugin just means a collection of triggers pre-made for you
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I understand: pre-made
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP usually gets the signal slightly before the tags-based repop as well, but within half a sec of each other
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a mush gmcp repop script out there?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, tech -h
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: olliday - i have one
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there, probably, yes I have one...in that order, already played out :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not on my site yet.. let me send you a  link
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there auto-explore plugin for mapper?  
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's cute
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unfortunately, yes :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: under what name?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not one i'd help people find, tbh
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: oh, anyway mapper unmapped here is also very nice feature
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Any way in MUSH to show the most recent value received from room.info?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: type mapper thisroom
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Sweet.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you want somethign to write triggers off.. I have an events plugin that will let you do that
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Just wanted to see the flags received, thanks. :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I'm using MUSHclient under wine. Is there a way that the client doesn't abort completely on a lua plugin error?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it doens/ the plugin aborts
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's dependent on your version of wine and whether you have plugin errors go to the main output or not
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle learns somethign every day.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that used to happen to me and now it doesn't, and all I've done is keep wine up to date
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: has anyone ever found a decent javascript solution for autcompleting comboboxes?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Wine is 1.1.34 and the error output even shows up in the main output
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: jQuery?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 1.1.34 is old
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very old
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: jquery's comboxes are poo
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well said sir!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use 1.3.28
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is there a particular reason why you're using wine 1.1.34?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: It's just what comes out-of-the-box with my distribution
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I'm now downloading (from a second source) 1.3.28
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Fiendish, could I just copy the lines from function custom_exit that start with "dbcheck(db:execute" and "rooms[cexit_start].exits" and put manual values in there without destroying anything?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use the winehq ppa for ubuntu to get latest updates
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Thwga, what?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I want to create a function to take manually-inputted vnums to create a custom exit.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why dont you just add entries to the database manually?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Is there an editor?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a sqlite file...plenty of editors available
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh, okay.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc reminds everyone to work with backups ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in general, posting queries to the tech board is a great way to have me think "I guess that's not a horrible idea" and then forget about it completely
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thwgatrostei uses automatic backups. 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use a firefox sql lite editor called "sqlite Manger"
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well what I was going to do was put it on your GC page once it actually worked. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I figure if I actually have working code and paste it there, you might put it in.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: heh, what fiendish just said about techboard is exactly why 'help ideap' exists.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Much better!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: it's a polite way of saying "Nice idea, but wrong board, fail, it will never be seen again."
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It wasn't an idea. It was a question.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it wasn't a question, it was an idea
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I asked how to do something. That's sort of a question.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: rice pudding, fired from catapults
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: Don't care, I was responding to what Fiendish said without giving a damn why he said it.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Maybe it was just too much text and made people glaze over.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ironfist Razor crawls back into his hole.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I have seem help ideap before :)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: board personal. note write lasher imm all. hey guys I got this cool new...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Which is not what I did. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you currently do a mapper goto <room past maze>, does it take you too the maze or just say no from the start?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it says no
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Fiendish, a question: in Aardwolf.db, table rooms, there's a field "notes". However, you don't use it, instead you use table bookmarks. An oversight?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't link exits through a maze
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I'm linking a fake exit around the maze.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch: hysterical raisins
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most mazes got pulled by Lumina's precedessor
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I was just working it out for my understanding of the reasonings :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: predecessor, even
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hate that the ultima mazes were removed
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Mazes generally seem silly though. There's no skill involved: Either hunt or wander until you get there. They don't add challenge.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch: you'll notice there's also a buildings column that is likewise unused
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know at one point swalec had a speedwalker that would run you to the edge of a maze, and then resume after you navigated out
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sure those clans who had maze entrances passed nolandir, gnomalin and sundered vale mazes thoguth the same, fiendish
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: not yet :-)   I was originally looking if I can use one of the fields for some "mapper goto recall" feature.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't bother
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: but now I'm using a MUSHclient alias, sending "mapper goto 12345" to the execute destination instead.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think the "don't bother" translates into "rsn that won't be necessary" :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have a plugin that works out the "first" room of each area and mapper goto's you to it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The subarea idea would actually work to do that, pathfinding before and after the maze but not in it. Shall I flesh out the idea more and try to post more details?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: saves on maintaining an alias list
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have code that finds the closest path from wherever you are to the closest room in the target area adjacent to another area. but it will never get added
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been too lazy to look, are there any areas (other than those with the "enter east and you start here, enter from west and you start there) that don't have room 1 be the lowest-numerical UID?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just wrote it to see if I could
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: You don't want the mapper to be able to do that?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no I don't
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Why?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damn right, automappers have removed all the mysticism of areas
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I support Fiendish in that decision
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so he can get there faster than you
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Limunious is agreeing with that Not Guilty Kojiro person again...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: hehe i dont even use mush
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Considering you already have to explore the area to map it in the first place.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not necessarily
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well I guess I'll just stop posting mapper ideas then, if you don't want it to get that sophisticated. Have fun then.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I hate the automapper
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not everything that is shiny is good for the game
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure plenty will love your idea
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I dislike that people use it without thinking
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: by all means post it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he did
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: He already said he won't do it, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I dislike that scripting ruins global quests (don't even argue)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I only work on the automapper because until I started doing it there was a giant gap between the haves and the have-nots
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: the only ones where scripts are really a problem are low-level
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's the only one to include it in the official distribution. he's not the only one to release code, so him not doing it doesn't mean it won't be done...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: at higher level, the scripts give less of an advantage
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: If Gaardian had a complete map for every area, it would not be as much of an issue. The problem is trying to find something in a 150-room area with a map blurry from zooming.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't have any problems
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: And no, I'm neither able nor willing to memorize every area in the game.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: oh yes you do
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: If you think that makes me unsuitable, then fine.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree on non-gaardian maps there
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for GQs, even gaardian's maps won't help all that much
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I don't care about GQs, only quests and campaigns.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: join gaard and help map!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're looking at a map, or even ctrl-f-ing them, you're too slow :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: they have great maps on their site! i wish i knew how they did it!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc cheers Mandorallen
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle cheers Gaardian and thier maps!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's some kind of complicated script on our website in a section you can't access that works kind of like alhena's map drawing program, but for active web pages
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: How come I can't 'tell dash'? It tries to tell Dasher.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't see him
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: detects
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh yeah.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gaardian should sell squared paper and pencil
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the reason why I don't want the mapper to be able to route the shortest path to "area" is because there's no reason for wanting it to do that other than botting gqs slightly faster
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't that essentially the reason for having a client-side mapper anyway?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: THat isn't true.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I already didn't want to add norecall/noportal stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well, obviously you're wrong already, because I don't want it for that at all.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What about just wanting to get to an area quicker?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I've done it, and now people are just going to ask for more
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Lasher could permanently disable GQs on my account for all I care. I'd still want the feature.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Same reason why I use my fens portal instead the runto, I want to kill quicker when I'm leveling.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: wanting to get to an area faster != bot.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc admits, quietly, "I use my portal slot for more stats and to replace recall."
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's all very well, but you always have to consider unintended consequenced
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imo getting to an area faster by using scripts to calculate the shortest path *is* a bot
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I truly appreciate all you've done, Fiendish, and I love your stuff. I'm not trying to be needy or adversarial. If you don't want to do something, don't do it. But just don't assume our motives.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that's where I disagree with the botting rules
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: What's our Vector agrees!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}What's our Vector Tech: bah agree fiendish
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well, the chance of me trying to code this myself is almost 0, considering I have no lua experience and the language looks insane. So don't worry.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lua is far simpler than just about any other language
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Doubtlessly it is, once you actually know it. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're just getting confused by the mushclient api
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is understandable, because the mushclient api is pretty ridiculous
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people who code for MUSHclient had never seen lua before it got popular in MUSH
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you can code javascript , however you can code lua
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I will be honest with you...I liked Zugg's UI a lot better than MUSH's. But...this client is more capable and 5890% more stable. So...yeah. Not crashing > better look.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can't remember if the first thing I wrote in Lua was for mushclient or for mobprog tetris
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't make mushclient, so any complaints about client UI can go to Nick
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I'd never even heard of lua before we started to put it into Aard, we had a test version of the zend php engine compiled into aard, that was to be the mobprog language.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: it was horrible
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I know, and it wasn't a complaint.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Just explaining my thought process.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: every step was a battle, felt like we were constantly fighting the language. Lua was made for this kind of thing, it was the right move.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: oops, back to work (phone)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: wow razor is now mxiting?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you want something simple to script for, go buy zmud. that's what I did. Until I found a whole bunch of very simple to fix bugs that really bothered me that never got fixed.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unfortunately, can't mxit on aard from the US :(
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just couldn't do what I wanted to do in zmud, so I started using mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well, a lot of the time, just getting the settings window to open up and not vomit all over itself was a feat.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah mush and aard mush code bases are very active and responsive
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: well, I was genericizing the word, my us android has an app...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: As soon as I knew he uses Delphi to code the thing, I just shook my head in wonder.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've got the mxit app, but you need mxit moolah to access aard from it, which isn't available to the US yet
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: So does my iphone, but  I tried to actually see what the mxit users were doing and found iphone mxit is not the same
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: funny thing, though. it turns out that one of the things I wanted to do in zmud that I couldn't because of a bug is something I've never bothered trying in mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: I mean, there's an aard app for the phone, that isn't mxit, and I was just using mxit in a more generic fashion since I couldn't think of a better verb "you're phoning it in?"
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no aard app for the iphone :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the best way to aard on an iphone/android is to remote toa  machine running your full client
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: we need one!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: isn't there vmware for the iphone?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: well i use issh on iphone nd i like it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Android > *
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no fiendish
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: lasher is probably cool enough to use an android, anyway :)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: issh is awesome
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i like it, letsme play normal, less my cool triggers and stuff, but i get full playability on it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet, ssh, raw socket, vnc, rdp, X11 (with ssh tunnels for the GUI ones)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm. there's a vmware client for ipad
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use Mocha RDP to get to my windows box 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish, not really
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an app called vmware client...read what it actually accomplishes :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't use it to connect to hypervisor without having the uberpaidconsoles, and then it still can't use much
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: literally, the "vmware client" is a vnc client repackaged
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i want an iphone app that will connect to a mobile camera so i can watch which one of my 2 dog is tearing up the trash and stuff!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have those, limun
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc how do i actually get hypervisor to load on boot ?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish blinks innocently.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: install it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i was thinking of getting one of the motion camers from like basspro
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: its whole job is to load on boot
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hypervisor doesn't do anything on its own...all it does it load
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Just as a total noob question, is there any reason half the script is in .xml under plugin and the other half is under lua? Just different languages for different tasks?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ignore file extensions
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it is an xml file with lua content
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it doesnt load for me
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xml is the plugin file format, lua is the script language
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you didn't install it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only reason it's in two files is because Nick had some crazy ideas about portability that were probably invalid
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Ah, that explains it then.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you burn a esxi 4.1 CD and boot from that?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one day, when I have nothing better to do, I'll merge them into a single very large file
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I'm used to organized project directories. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah, right now it's 3 files I think?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 2 if you don't count the database
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess technically 4
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 2 script files, 1 state file, 1 database per world
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: aard_GMCP_mapper.xml aardmapper.lua mapper.lua
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper.lua is not used
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardmapper.lua started as a copy of mapper.lua that I renamed
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper.lua is gammon's original unmodded distributed file
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Heh. Messy.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Forks upon forks.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I couldn't be sure someone wouldn't complain later about it being missing
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that allows aard's package to include everything gammon distributes
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh, good point. I didn't even think about adding more plugins after the aard package.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gammon distributes files that he doesn't use, they're just optional capability extensions
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of aard players have more plugins that you can add on top of fiendish's setup
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast, winklewinkle, swalec, heck, I don't even use MUSH and I've got a few plugins on my site }:>
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah, aren't you the text-only client guy? I forgot the name of it.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue, yup
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: That's it.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Was thinking tintin for some reason.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: great for iSSHing from my iphone to do a 50-second quest ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin is another CLI client
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cartman & cheezburger use that one
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Meh, maybe I'll be able to learn lua. I've never been able to wrap my mind around these scripting languages though. I'm very much a lockstep guy. Even C++ makes me start getting iffy.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: You can learn Haskell...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Purely functional programming language? *blink*
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I'm going through a course this semester as part of the requirements of graduating
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It looks like lisp turned inside-out.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Some day, C++ will go the way of assembly...right?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what way is that?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Likely, but hopefully not soon.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what, "should still be used but people are too lazy"?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Assembly is often considered suitable for hobbyists only. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both are still used in widely-distributed projects daily
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Still needed, but at a lower level than most people will go to
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: By the "public" it is.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Okay, in my university it is. There, accurate statement.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's not even accurate for that
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: assembly is suitable for people who are pretty much the exact opposite of hobbyists
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless your hobby is assembly
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: there's very little need for assembler any more
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Maybe you missed the part where I said "is often considered". Which =/= "is".
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there is every need for assembler any more
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: which language is =/=?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: core code isn't done by hobbyists, other than on hobby projects
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ive used <> or !=
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: never =/=
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: compilers are good enough now that assembler isn't needed in 90% of the cases it used to be
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The language of I can't use the unicode inequals sign in this chat.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: oh ok, was just curious
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thwgatrostei -)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Eep. It ate my colon.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: assembler and direct hardware access ftw
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compilers just let you hide the assembly that is being used...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Hey, I did assembly on 64k processors in high school.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't remove the need for it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let me just say that I was thrilled to learn that I could directly access C++ Win32 functions in Lua with LuaJIT's FFI extension
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: yes. abelinc.. that's the whole point.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: eventually, it all gets down to machine code.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: but, nowadays, there's much less benefit than there used to be in getting that close to the hardware
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i would rather make enough money to have an IT guy:)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nowadays, the hardware isn't the hardware
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The argument made against assembly (and, increasingly commonly, against C/C++), is that, while it can indeed be more efficient with enough work, that work is not time efficiently spent, by man-hour, when compilers and libraries produce almost-as-good exponentially quicker. Leading to more project completion.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and an awful lot of reasons not too
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Fiendish, since I upgraded wine some of the colors are broken, e.g. my current room isn't pink anymore. The pink is still displayed in the configuration box.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch: what version?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 1.3.28?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thwgatrostei, assembly shouldn't be used as the predominant language for a project. that's not the same as assembly is for hobbyists
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It is at my university. They're very stubborn.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Fighting: wine now 1.3.28, MUSHclient 4.77
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: assembly should only be used for very specific reasons.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't, at your university or anywhere else on the planet
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Part of the reason I said "screw 'em" and went freelance. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: we need to bring back turtle logic as a programming language
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Cain killd Abelinc, I have spoken to almost every professor of computer science at my university on a one-to-one basis. I am aware of their feelings.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 40 deg clockwise, forward 10
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch: what platform are you using? and do you have intel graphics?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you believe you are, you just don't express them accurately :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle smiles at you. 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Fiendish -- one of the things I miss with GMCPMpapper over my speedwalk plugin is the ability to give nicknames to locations -- have I missed a way of doing it? Would you be averse to a patch?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I do admire that you could give a mule a lesson on stubbornness.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Linux 3.0.0-rc6 currently, and yes, an intel chip
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bookmarks are that, aren't they, swalec?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what distro, Hosch?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bookmarks are ...not great for that
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: It's just funny that the older wine had no problem with the drawings
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch: you'll have to update your intel graphics driver
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: bookmarks?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Swalec: the answer is yes I accept patches if I think they make sense
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Distro is Debian SID, but kernel is self-compiled, vanilla kernel from kernel.org
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok, then you should have no problem updating the graphics driver
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on while I find a link with more information
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Partly. The in-kernel update (from source) part of the driver part is piece of cake. But the X11 update part (from source) of the driver is horrible experience :-/
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: For the X11-part I'm lazy and rely on the Debian X11 team :-)   It's not as fast as on Fedora, but fast enought.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28798
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use this ppa in ubuntu to patch it https://launchpad.net/~smorar/+archive/bugfixes
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure what to do for debian
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess just compile the source
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Thanks, you gave me enought pointers
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the problem is that after 1.1.42 Wine started doing something that was bugged in the intel driver since 2.11
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or maybe 2.12
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so I was stuck using wine 1.0.1 for a long time until the bug finally got fixed
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: This ppa has an xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.15.0 file, I just install 2.16.0 from Debian SID .. so hopyfully my problems are then gone. Need t exit now ... 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah I think it's 2.15 with a few patches
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you exit stage left
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or maybe it was 2.14 with patches?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Fiendish, that did the trick. Vielen Dank!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: which translates to many thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Hmm, I'm trying to map the Kobaloi replacement area, and I think it's messing up. If I purge the area from the mapper, will that clear all the vnums or will it destroy something?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: purgezone kobaloi - and remap it.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define destroy
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: mapper purgezone kobaloi
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Leave stuff dangling that corrupts the database somehow.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: I mean mapper purgezone dwarven. which is kobaloi's old area.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Ah, of course. I'm dumb.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: why would fiendish include a command that purposely corrupts the database? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to mess with you
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I didn't say it would be purposeful. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: make a backup first if you're really scared, but these things do get tested you know :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: barely
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you all are my testers
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: this is very true
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: is Kobaloni mapped differently to Dwarven kingdom (in addition to different room names) 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: no, i guess that one wouldn't really need it, it's not exactly a complex function
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I and my father are known in our family as "breakers". Some would say "cursed", others would say "annoying". Things fall apart around us that have worked for 20 years.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i almost reported a bug but it was my screwup
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Kobaloi is somehwat differently-shaped, yes.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: the layout is different, yes
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: There we go. Nothing destroyed, btw. :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dangrim Tech: has anyone experienced a flicker effect problem with child windows in cmud?  I just want to refresh and redraw a few lines of text every few seconds but it occasionally flickers. any advice?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think newer versions of the mapper don't make you purgezone manually
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure though
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dangrim Tech: my chat window doesn't flicker at all but if i clear a window, and send a few lines, it will flicker like 10% of the time
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess it might still be necessary
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Not really a piece of software I want to use a beta of, considering how anal I am about completion.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and yet here you are
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I am where?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: it's cause the clear and redraw don't happen at exactly the same time, dangrim...not much you can do about it, afaik
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dangrim Tech: nothing to do about it? :(
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: get a faster video card? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: man, exits in kobaloi are seriously screwed up. I hope this doesn't affect the mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for any who are interested version 2.4 and the first public release of my Search & Destroy + Mapper Extender + Gui has just been released.  I'll write a note on this as well, but the link for those who want to have a look at it is at my site at
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dangrim Tech: hah ok. thanks, celani
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/downloads/detail?name=20110908_b_Search_and_Destroy_v2.4.zip
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: what do you mean, screwed up?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: goto room 10693 and then go down
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: through an exit that doesn't exist
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to the room above where you are
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i'm in hells atm :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Ah, so what you're saying is I should get out of here and map it later. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: and go to room 10693 is easier said than done, when i haven't mapped it yet :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: A Mountain Ledge  in Kobaloi
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Huh, that's odd.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: How did you even notice that was possible?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bumping exits
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Would it be basically soul-croushing to try to get the mapper to draw a whole area at once instead of hiding overlaps?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: interesting idea
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Or to draw up/down on the same layer, using diagonal exits, instead of up/down exits?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd love to see a way of drawing the ups and downs somehow
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Up could be NW/NE and down could be SW/SE.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: doesn't it already do that?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It draws different levels on different layers.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i've mentioned this before...i think the mapper could get rid of the drawing algorithm entirely, and just store x/y/z coords of rooms in the database
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah, if we could click-drag the rooms with a snap-to-grid, that would be lovely.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: nod, and storing coords is the only way i can see that happening
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: There area x/y/z coordinates for rooms in the database already, I think, they're just blank.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: drawing up/down is easy. I just have it disabled
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: hmm, maybe fiendish is planning this in the future then? ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, probably not
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I decided that it made the display confusing
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Too difficult to make it a user-chosen option?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a way we can enable it?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i bet your'e regretting you mentioned it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: <!ENTITY show_up_down "false" > 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The open-source community is supposed to be about user choice. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you as the user can choose to sod off and do it yourself
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how's that? :)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than you having the choice to take his code and make it do what you want
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: So much for "community". A simple "no" would have been sufficient.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all that my decision about source does is let you take it and do what you want with it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a simple no was given
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway I just told you what to change to get up/down exits to show
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you tried slapping the one doing the work...that's when you get the sod off response...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as his license says
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I read his license.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the "tells no abbreviate" thing is one of those ideas that people think they want until they have it...then they'll turn it off a day later :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: abbreviating everything is something we take for granted and forget that we're even doing so much of the time...every now & then it'll bite us & we'll be like "I want the consistency of when I type xxx I want only xxx"...until we're stuck typing everything out for each & every thing and get tired of it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I want to be able to send tabs to the mud so that I can tab complete my tell names
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not too hard to do locally, really
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need server support for it to work as I expect
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get a player field in gmcp, pop a db
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ooh i like it with up and down showing.. but show other areas makes my machine die
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: show other areas is hideous
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think show up/down is too
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no.. i'm so used to looking at wiki maps that i read up downs perfectly fine
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it clobbers diagonally placed rooms
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for the most part areas are planar, so it makes more sense to show the current plane than to try to display multiple concurrent levels
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you'd need server support for it to know whether myself or "abel" is on and tab-complete appropriately, but it'll tab-complete anyone who's ever used a channel since you turned it on just fine, or can restrict the db population to anyone who's ever sent you a tell
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if that is the sacrifice, then yes i can see not having them might be better
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it'd be cool to toggle them with a command
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but damn you, now I'm gonna do a tell tab-complete for tf :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: winkle, write the command and submit a patch
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll accept it, just not spend time on it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: roger roger
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: up-downs are annoying -- when automapping, all up-downs are done so all the rooms are on the same maplevel 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do we have clearance clarence?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What's your vector victor?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, darn, he's either in ninja mode or offline...*peer vector
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: he leaves work about 10-15 minutes ago
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Thwga: what's the utility for this 'mapper showroom <vnum>' idea?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It lets you see where in the area the room is, if you can't find a path to it.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I can counterfeit the subareas thing with the manual custom exits, and I can just add in several "enter foobar" commands to fail out the speedwalk so it doesn't enter the maze.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: honestly, i'm surprised fiendish hasn't added something for random mazes yet :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It is much nicer with area exits and up/down on. It looks good this way to me.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish slams his head on his desk in frustration.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: He said he doesn't like the mapper being that automated.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you need to rethink the requested command interface for showroom, then, because you won't know the id number for a room you can't map to
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Takes too much out of the game.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i know what he said :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I won't? I thought it listed vnums for all rooms matching that name.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh I guess that works
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It does list them.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I could probably edit the lua file a little to add a click-vnum-to-show-room hyperlink.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Maybe. I'd try anyway.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they're already hyperlinks doing something else, though
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: But I could take the vnum out of the main hyperlink and hyperlink the vnum separately? Or one link per line?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can have more than one hyperlink on a line. would have to change the coloring I guess
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some indication that it has a different result
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this should be a pretty simple thing to add
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in my room search commadn i list clickable runto room results.. adn a [sw] after them to show the speedwalk..
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I've been thinking of restructuring the result line to look like this: Room Name (vnum) (walk) ---- and clicking room name would show the path to the room, vnum would show the room itself, and walk would speedwalk to it.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Thw my plugin does most of that.. install it and i'll extend it to show the room too
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I am willing to accept good patches to how result lists get displayed
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Ah good, that'll save time then.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as long as you stay within 80 chars for anything that has column formatting
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: how can you guys use clickable links? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i prefer keeping both hands on the keyboard when i'm mudding :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: when i'm playing via RDP on the toilet
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: It's a lot faster than typing a vnum.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: For me, obviously. Not an absolute statement.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a complex sequence of events where a neuron sends an electrical impulse to the finger tips
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I imagine that on a touch screen hyperlinks are much easier
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: if only my neurons could send electrical impulses to my mouse, then i might use more hyperlinks :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's been done in research hospitals
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thwgatrostei lets out a high pitched squeak! 
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i don't doubt it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: anyone happen to know how long the zuggsoft forums have been/will be down?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try MUSHclient!
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: why, mushclient's forums are immune to going down?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have not seen them go down.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Plus, most bugs get corrects when they are found.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I can't access the helpfiles on Mushclient. Anyone know how to force it to recognize a specific couple of words and replace them with others in my output?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i'm sure they do
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: just as often as zuggsoft's do, anyway
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tlaloc: Are you running Vista or Win 7?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tlaloc: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is the helpfile online too.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: anyway, back on topic...zuggsoft's forums aren't down for me...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Windows 7
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: might be a connection problem?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladavar Tech: they must have just came back up.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tlaloc: Which version of MUSHclient are you using? 4.77 has it accessible.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: 4.77
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tlaloc: the short answer is it's not easy to do properly
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: That's a bit shocking, Fiendish
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: There was a patch that you had to download from Microsoft I thought.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I cannot find the link on the forums at the moment.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: just click the link in the error message that pops up when you try to open the helpfiles :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the longer answer is go look at this forum thread: http://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6356
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: getting help to work is easy
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Going to webpage
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Point 40 I think has the setup.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: getting #sub functionality to work correctly is not so simple
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: why doesn't mush use the new helpfile format anyway?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because mushclient doesn't have a mechanism for reprocessing substituted lines
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to have WinHlp32.exe
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: that didn't answer my question
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: My answer is that I do not know. I just do the work arounds.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: well, i assume fiendish knows?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: knows what
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: why mush doesn't use the new helpfile format
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: if you're saying hold on to go get me a link, don't waste your time, i won't click it anyway :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=11248
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fail.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your not clicking isn't my problem
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: i'm not that bothered by it, was just curious
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think Nick just doesn't know how to make a CHM file
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case, the help viewer is completely unnecessary anyway. all of the documentation is available through the website
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: shrug, it's not exactly hard to get the help viewer, and you'll probably come across some other programs that need it anyway
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tlaloc: if this functionality is important to you, I suggest chiming in on that thread. It's always hard to know if Nick is silently working on a solution or silently working on something else entirely.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is always hard to know if Fiendish is plotting to rule the world too.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hes not
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: he lives on the east coast. they dont plot there.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tell that to Congress.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: When adding a new trigger to for Fiendish's Mushclient, should I add it to an existing file or make a completely new file?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for simplicity just add it in the triggers window?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there a way to use my laptop as a router for my xbox and roomates laptop?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: As I understand the problem, triggers can't handle this
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have small plugins for small pieces of functionality.. make a stub as a trigger and then use the plugin wizard to make it into it's own file
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there a way to use my laptop as a router for my xbox and roomates laptop? the modem is connected directly into my comp
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: yes.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not easily
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: port forwarding on linux, or internet connection sharing on windows
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would still need a hub of some kind
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: you'll need a router / wireless access point of some sort
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: anyone tried running debian out of a squashfs / ?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheaper to just grab a modem/router combo
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: ok, well i guess ill just buy a wireless router
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: snewb, you don't have to... you can share the connection without it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: but... if you just buy it... it is less thought intensive.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I thought you committed suicide by shotgun on New Year's Eve a few years back, Lemon.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: etzli, no... i dont think so
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Guess you must have missed.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, because there were still logs of it, and your finger info said as much, too. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: im fine with thought intensive, running win xp, how do i do it lemon?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: snewb, control panel, network setup wizard
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lemon Tech: sorry, was dealing with some spammy xunti nutjob.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: why would someone make a Java constructor private?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to try and save you from yourself .. nanny coding
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: private constructor? look up singleton pattern
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wow it's been ages since I heard things about patterns and singletons.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know if bast is updating his stats monitor plugin to support daily?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: uest finished for 15+2+6+E = 46qp. It took 00m:30s.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Post a note to him.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its not a big deal I was just curious - i wont bug him wiht it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm sure it's a big deal to him
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: tech did Firefox 6 reintroduce a memory issue with multiple tabs open for long periods? (or something)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably not
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: anyone read Ghost in the Wires?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a command that displays inv ID beside each item?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: invdata
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: must have a script screwing that up - it didnt work when i tried it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Any java people around? Seem to be getting something wrong with generics.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a sample db connect /execute/close LUA plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i see a VBScript sample Nick wrote - didnt see a Lua oen
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scrawl through Fiendish's mapper or Bast's statdb?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what kind of db?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: was gonna move that EQ info -> DB as I found out arrays dont carry over between sessions
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: didn't answer my question :P
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sqllite i suppose
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry missed that one
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.keplerproject.org/luasql/manual.html
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Ive seen that, i understand how to do the connect/etc - trying to figure out how to do the loading/opening/saving in mush though :)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bast's statdb plugin is one huge db plugin - I'm sure it will help
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, the connecting is the loading/opening...
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and saving is automatic, just execute your sql queries on the connection object
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So no one can help with Java then?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: any regexp experts there?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: regexperts?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I'm trying to match beginning of line followed by any number of tabs or spaces, followed by a specific word
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: any number including 0?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: but '^[ ]*checker' doesn't seem to do it
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: correct, including zero
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: would have used a + otherwise
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ^\s*checker
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: \s is for whitespace (space or tab?)
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: hm
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or a line break, yes
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: alternatively you can do [ \t]*
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: note that this is not standard regexp, but it will work in e.g. perl, mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I did have that... it got escaped by the client here
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what did?
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I tried '^[\t ]*checker'
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, that's not what you said earlier
T3/r4/2011-09-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: right the \t got escaped by the client :)
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try \s
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I wonder why it doesn't like the ^ in front of the [\t ]
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: maybe it's just grep that's crap
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: IIRC grep doesn't like perl-type regex without -E
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I mean -P.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I think that's it
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: that was it, thanks Tharnin
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know what the wear locations are for number 28,29,30?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or what the 4th pin is you can get/    tier/support/academy grad
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: builder
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: helper
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: hrm
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are tier, builder, graduation, and supporter
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Not helper, nm
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and they're all strung differently depending on how the imm felt at the time
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: with Bast's spellup plugin, does sblock is the blockee blocked if you have the blocker effect, or if you are able to cast the blocker
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ooops sorry for grammar
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Swalec: Does it have the ability to request it?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are you talking about block exit?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, as far as I can tell -- so I have fly before levitation in my cast list, but levitation blocks fly
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: as a result from a clean spellup, levitation never gets cast
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh, you mean which spells block the other.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Swalec: Remove the request for fly.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, the problem is that fly gets cast because I don't have levitation
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once it gets blocked once, it gets set to disabled
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Exactly.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And will never autocast again until you undisable it
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, I thought about that, but then I have to fiddle with my spellup settings, which I was trying to avoid
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You have to go back in and rerequest it.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pause the plugin, cancel off your spells, then request levitation and unrequest flyu
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh runs into the room looking for a flygo.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Swalec: You know you can just put the spells in alphabeta or SN order.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: fly*
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so, to make this work, I basically have to make sure that levitation is before fly *and* make sure that when I learn levitation I am not affected by fly
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: no, you need to unrequest fly
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I need to disable it? What is the point then of blocking? 
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: blocking is useful for things that need to be cast in sequence--for example, protection good and inertial barrier...
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my blocking requirements never change -- I was hoping to move away from the system I used to have where I managed an extensive set of spellup priorities  independently then used this to configure my spellup
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I know they changed those, but it was one of the major things that I used it for
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, there are many overlapping spells -- detect *, true seeing, wolf spirits for instance
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it would be shame if I have to fiddle with my spellup order, as I then have to store the information in two places
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Mush mapper, what's the right way to make a custom exit that's just 'wait here until the mobprog triggers'?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use wait
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Just like run 2e;wait;run 6w?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: see mapper help :p
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: If you're talking about cexit_wait, that's not quite what I meant.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, the wait function
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The only 'wait' in mapper help is cexit_wait.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you update your mapper? it's a fairly recent addition
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Could be. I'll check.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Unless you mean a beta version? I thought it was supposed to tell me when an update was available.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, the one from the google code page, i don't use the update tracker so not sure how recent that one is
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah that'll be the beta snapshot.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I got mine from aard's page.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah, if so probably no way to do it yet
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well, what matters is that the feature is there. :-) Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Heh, version on Aard is 1126, and current snapshot is 1340. That's quite a difference.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: many of those increments are from editting the wiki too
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how hard is it to write a bot that will hunt qmobs and kill them every 30 minutes?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how hard is it to get nuked?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ask lasher
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Easy - what's hard is hiding it well enough you don't get nuked
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol vakieh
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how do I get an alias to call another alias in mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: send it to execute
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: instead of world?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: right
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: awesome, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adacan Tech: i was wondering if there is anyopne able to help me setup my computer client so that i can make hotkeys for my combat skill abilities being a thief i dont have spells.. and
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adacan Tech: i dont know how to do that i am running the mushclient package  that you get that has map setup adn all
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Did the punctuation keys fall off your keyboard?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adacan Tech: yes they did  SMART ASS|
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Easy enough...just use macros, see Game / Configure / Macros menu, it's pretty straight-forward
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: didn't you mean "easy enough just use macros see game configure macros menu it's pretty straightforward"?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Nah, my punctuation keys work fine :)
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a repop detection plugin for mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adacan Tech: Ok thats defanatly straight forward now i only ask  is there a  command that you can put before say like  kill {mob name} <---- %t or something like that so when i hit f1 kolbold {target}
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i have tags repop on and a trigger to play a sound when it repops.  simple
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not sure how you'd do that with macros, also probably only useful to level 23, since backstab's usually the best way to start combat after then.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: holliday for the LOVE OF THE GODS can you stop asking that?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, cue Fiendish with "probably", then Winkle "I have one as part of my events plugin"
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i knwo right? FFS
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Besides, it's not that difficult to script one of your own.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: is there a way to get global socials sent to the communication miniwindow?  (mush)
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any way to turn off the "backspace key goes back a page if you're not in a textbox" thing in firefox?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nevermind, found it
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: how do i call the gmcp helper plugin in a trigger?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JohnnyChimpo Tech: Can anyone explain to me, how to simply make GMCP comm.repop fire in Mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: simply, "tell winklewinkle can I have your events plugin?"
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how hard is it to write a macro like /killit   to then to c mobshield  backstab  c rune  burnt 
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but to grab the name of the mob
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's the million dolalr question
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why are you so insistent on botting vd?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Botting VD? I don't even intend to take part in it...
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. i'm outta this topic too
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: No one wants to bot VD... I mean, seriously...
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You still have to kill * oh never mind.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah, if bots were allowed then we'd be able to do GQs in 2 ticks :-|
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: instead, we have to settle for doing them in one....
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav snickers with Martini & Tyebald about their shared secret.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: zMUD - how can I hold a specific item? Aard ammy. I thought I had to use quotation marks?
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Use the ID instead.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Thank you
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can use the ID or, if it's a quest item, the serial number.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Then you can just do 'wear 12345678' instead.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or ~(12345~)
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I prefer the id since no modifications have to be made at all.
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: board
T3/r4/2011-09-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: any mushclient scripters on?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSlayer Zeerus Tech: sorry still trying to figure out how to color somebodys name... lol
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to enable picture text messages via wap w/ t-mobile?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: android?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: no lg
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nope
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: are questions about growing legal plants in water tech related if one wants to ask about air flow, poitive pressure vs adiabatic air flow and surface agitation?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok. if i want to grow some qinoa in a translucent glass jar 60-65% filled with more or less room temperature distilled water
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sounds like they would be relevant even if the plants were illegal...
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is adiabatic air flow enough to ensure that it gets ample nitrogen and co2?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and is that chiefly based on the surface area of the water/vs air contact?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: You're growing quinoa? In quantities that will fit in a jar?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: tharnin the seeds sprout just fine in a jar... if it will grow it will be ok
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: until it gets big, then i may move it, why?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: have you grown qinoa?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I'm just wondering what one does with a single quinoa plant. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: tharnin, you feed it to feeder fish 
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and then you feed the feeder fish to thusly fed fish
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I haven't. My gardening experience is "throw a seed in dirt. Water periodically. Wait. Eat vegetables." It works so far. And I don't need to worry about air flow.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmn. ok. i dont have much dirt
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Ahh. That makes sense, I hadn't considered that.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: (The fish thing.)
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: yeah... apartment 
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: yeah... fish like food too
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: its the circle of life... like in the new 3d lion king movie that came out today
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you can grow almost anything in pots
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr right, but i dont want them to starve or rot
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 3d lion king? for shame, disney...for shame
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oh come on. you dont want to hear ' mufasa' said by a 3d hyena?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude shivers uncomfortably.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: why would they in pots? Just need to fertilize and water proper amounts
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr well, i dont have pots, i have jars.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and its easier to keep the jars partly full of water than it is to find dirt.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just as long as you have good drainage, any container will do
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so i was just wondering about adiabatic air flow with a 'circular' surface
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr i'm not draining, its substrate is water instead of dirt
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: why?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: because that's how hydro works
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: instead i'm ensuring good air flow and lighting.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes, I know. Why hydro?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but... i dunno much about the adiabatic air flow and gas/liquid exchanges for a round surface's area
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: its something like the radius squared w/ pi right?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i basically wonder if i need a pump, or how to figure it out on paper
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr hydro, because a lack of dirt, and a lack of a desire to clean up spilled dirt
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: besides, it'll be a good learning experience
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but... do you know the math well for calculating the air flow through that aperture?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: who cares, learn the basics first
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are overthinking life - just go buy a fan
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: more oxygen in the water = faster growth, you want bubbles ^^ or some sort of circulating effect with a waterfall
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: doink uh, but ... i want the plant to grow, the plant doesnt eat oxygen very much
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: to low amount of oxygen in the water and the plant will drown.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmn. ok
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Plants emit oxygen o.O
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vakieh many do . yep. including this one
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, ALL do
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: definition of a plant
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: uh, but some emit hydrogen instead
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: the us department of agriculture website has some cool stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Gonna consume the plant?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: doink, dunno? does it matter?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is it even edible?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Not so much. Was just gonna emphasive origanics if its being consumed, albeit the dirt is dirty ^^
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: organic*
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MUSHclient, I love you, but this blackminiwin bs makes me want to stab you...
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain giggles.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here savvy with google chrome
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no, there are no porn addons
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak beams with pride at TrEz.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that was gonna be my second question
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: there you go, answered for you :)
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I'm using chrome all the day ... but if I'm savvy?  Dunno.  Just ask.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I wanna download a movie, that totally legal
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it asks me where to save the torrent file
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: huh...
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I have to open it so it loads in utorrent, which is gay
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so can this be automated
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like it is on opera
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Then save the torrent file and use some torrent client to open this file. Chrome doesn't handle torrents by itself.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who uses torrent files? Magnet link that bad boty
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: boy*
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't want it to handle it
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: You can bind the mime-type of the torrent to an application
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want it to just save+open it auto, without asking for dirs and stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: but this is outside of Chrome. Chrome however honors it.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: associations are fine, it just saves it first which delays me
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Delay? I guess the movie download will take very long anyways ...
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: dude
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: opera: I click on torrent link, it opens it with utorrent
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: chrome: I click on torrent link, it asks me where to save it, then I manually click it, it loads in utorrent
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want it to be like opera
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use opera then
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: The name 'utorrent' really annoys me. It's a MU, not U, for goodness sake.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: ... not that that helps you much... well, at all.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying to get decimal values from a text file using echo and cut but bash throws arithmetic errors when I try to assign, say, 0.29749 to a variable. Anyone knows why this might be so?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: locale demands , as the decimal point?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What are the errors?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: variable=`cat <filename>.txt | rgrep "\d+"` should work too
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ./myNetWatcher: line 33: 0.0249729: syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is ".0249729")
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have it in a while read line loop.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I'm very unsure if bash can use floating point at all
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Might need to use bc/dc?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That could be Hosch, i've never had any need too as far as I can recall.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: var=`echo $line | cut -d " " -f2`
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That is the case, it doesn't do float, but why is it complaining about arithmetic when it should just be saved as a string?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm unfamiliar with cut, i usually use rgrep.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Bash can't: $((1+1)) -> 2   $((1+1.1)) -> error   $((1+1,1)) -> 1
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hosch: I know bash can't. My question is why is it not a string?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: interesting
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Still, though. Trurien has a point, assignment isn't doing any math on it, so it shouldn't throw an error, especially not that error.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So paste us your code, Trurien?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I did. I'll put it in a pastebin.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I would first do the cat .. | rgrep without the `` and see it's output. Maybe an ` is inside?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: http://pastebin.com/2BgR4U0r
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: line 33 is the problem, as noted earlier.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's possible, but that still shouldn't throw an arithmatic error.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'll play around with rgrep, never used it.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's just shorthand for grep --regexp="foo"
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think the problem has been found... declare -i sets a variable as integer, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yes.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's probably it. How do I set a double?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien keeps hitting himself in the head and uttering, "Doh!"
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SH Loud
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or no doubles.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien slaps Vakieh on the head and says, "DOH!"
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: "help declare" (in bash) doesn't show double
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: nor float
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: declare --help shows both -f and -F. Give them a try.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Cheezburger, you must have a higher or differently compiled bash than I (4.1.5), -F is something very different, and -f doesn't exist on my bash.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I found it
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it's -l
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: If in doubt, use python/perl/whatever else for your problem
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: for long i assume
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Cheezburger that's "convert to lowercase", dude
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Compiled it fine for me
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: declare -l val=1.2222 returned 1.2222 when i did echo $val
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Aha
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: change the - to a +. so +i instead of -i.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So that it doesn't only accept integers :P
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Will try that. We've got a C** program written to outsource the comparison instead :P
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Damn German kezboards.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Would there be an easy way in Mush to make ^U clear my command line?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Will Esc do instead?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Eh, not really. I'm used to ^U from using consoles and I keep hitting it by reflex.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, I was used to that, until I got used to MUSHclient (=
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: Maybe not super easy, but yes you should be able to script that. Start here: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: listen to Cizra about Esc.. much easier i feel
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I have to move my hands to hit esc, which I don't for ^U, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: In my gut, "esc" means "close window".
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: if you want to escape, you need to open the window, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Eh?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yes.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: hehe never mind
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: You're so cute. *pinch*
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know how to access gmcp in a trigger on mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: let me guess.. for repop?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: that is correct winkle
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think you must be trolling by now
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: When ever I type help, the help text is surrounded by {help} and {/help}, I think its an option I had on years ago, but no longer need it. How do I disable it?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags help off
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, tags helps off
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if i'm using #C+ and #C- to capture specific sections of text, is there a way to tell Cmud to omit the line that triggers #C-
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "the cost xxx is lower than the cost of yyy" or "the cost of xxx is less than the cost of yyy"?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or does it matter?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmmm
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: xxx, yyy are the amounts themselves, not the objects right?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think less is when you're dealing with two objects and lower is more than two
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: items, tru
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: first should say "cost of"
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: like younger brother is only 2 brothers  and youndest brother is more than 2
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There's no superlative here, WinkleWinkle.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmm but that'd only apply to lower vs lowest
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that'd be the difference between less/least, and lower/lowest, I'd think, WinkleWinkle.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: least lower last latest?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. i guess it doesn't matter
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lasterer
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: evidently, for time, money, and distance, you use "less than"
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: so says google results
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool :)
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Now..."as we increase xxx further, the cost of yyy becomes more and more less than zzz".
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Surely, someone can come up with something that sounds better than that :P
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: economies of scale?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The more xxx is increased, the further the cost of yyy drops below zzz.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i want to know why there is no group name for nieces and nephews... nephlings? Niechews?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "siblings' kids"
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagfib Tech: just be glad you dont have to say "son of paternal uncle" "daughter of maternal aunt" like in arabic =/ family tree stuff drives me crazy in that language
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No one bothered to deal with them long enough to come up with names?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I don't really bother with them in Chinese too Dagfib.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm good friends with my 2nd cousin twice removed
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which i think might be equivalent
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how... good of friends?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how to check monitor refresh rate for lcd?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if i'm using #C+ and #C- to capture specific sections of text, is there a way to tell Cmud to omit the line that triggers #C-
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: usually printed on the back of monitor or in setting selection
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how to find out if mushclient runs on linux?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: install linux and try to run mushclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you need to install wine and set it up throug there
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: through wine, ok. do i need to set any hreg stuff w/ it?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's pretty simple probably
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: me? yeah
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: install wine, unzip the Aardwolf Mushclient to a directory, open a shell, change to the MUSHclient directory, and do "wine MUSHclient.exe", done
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: this is so different i have all these windows and bar graphs
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: of the muschlient scripting option menus, is perl the closest to what i tried to use for tinyfugue?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i would recommend using Lua with Mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: least compatibility issues from what I've read
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: k
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No scripting language available for mushclient relatively resembles tf scripting.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i'm already stunned by all the colored windows.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: play in mono like me
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if i download a plugin for mushclient, how do i make sure it will be turned on?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: For a moment there, I thought i was in WoW
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: like i downloaded the search and destroy thing, and i downloaded one that will show quest data in a window
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: The plugin starts itself up once installed
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file/plugins/add
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok. so i just need to find out why it doesnt give me the quest stuff in a window?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah, the file thing, thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: can mushclient work like telnet to connect to bbs's too?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: There is no reason it couldn't, but it's a bit overkill as a stock telnet client.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: I'm sure it could e.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: be *
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: k thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: maybe i can use it for tradewars
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: how do i turn off the {invitem}659931155,K,a well used backpack,9,11,0,-1,-1
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: statmon
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: thank you :)
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: wow i really misread that
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: help invmon
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: statmon is something different
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: oh okay.
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is there a special treatment to give to paper before it is suitable for rolling tobacco?
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: good question
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: wrinkle it a bit
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: bible paper is the closest to rolling papers
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: another question, how do i get rid of this now? {affoff}255
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: invmon
T3/r4/2011-09-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: invmon? i already have that off though
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hey anyone know an ip for an ntp server? i'm getting dns fails and need ta know what time it is
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: so this is interesting, I have sc2 and chrome open and both are "foggy" and unresponsive, I can alt tab and open new programs, but I can't open task manager via right clicking the windows bar or via ctrl-alt-del
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Alt + F4 ftw!
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: alt + f4 not working
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possibly also Ctrl + Alt + Esc
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: alt+f4 only works after ctrl+alt+del has been engaged =p
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: not sure what that was supposed to do but it brought up other windows
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: w/o fixing issue
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: I'll try logigng off and see if it tries to kill the programs :)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: worked!
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hiyaa
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's your question?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: How do I create a bootable Windows XP CD using BartPE?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hang on ... let me check Google...
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: trurien careful, i heard microsoft paid google
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i did download the bartpe client,but it seem i cant create the ISO
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not familiar with the BartPE client at all.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hmm..anyone please?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Did you try checking Google? What seems to be the problem with the ISO creation process?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: it say i cant find the source
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You're trying to create an ISO out of some files, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Where are those files?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Okay, where is the documentation I can't find on how to use simple variables in aliases? Not in plugin files, just directly in MUSH.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: SetVariable ("var","val") when SendTo is Script
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: and GetVariable("var") to get its contents
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I just tried tonumber(GetVariable("held")) and got an error.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: did you write to it anything ?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Did I what?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why not just use arnam and expand variables box?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: use SetVariable("var","value") before ?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: @varname, rather
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I set it manually in the world editor.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Arnam?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah I tried but it just sent the to the mud.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: no @
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: @ rather
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Do you want to update the variable, or use the contents?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh I see. Expand Variables checkbox.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I got it now.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if you send to world, you need to do @varname, you have to click expand variables. If you send to script you want to do something like var=tonumber(GetVariable("Varname"))
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Mushclient is very powerful, but its interface is more complicated than my intestinal tract.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It really isn't
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its not even complicated.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: once you start to learn it, it really does come second nature to script it.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Tintin++ is my client of choice, considering I'm not on Windows.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Trurien.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You and me both, brotha
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: on linux but use mush
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why bother with Wine?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: used mudlet for aardwolf before
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: even when i'm on windows i still use tt++
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Cos wine is yummy (in moderation, of course).
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well personally I liked zmud's interface a lot better, but the programming quality was terrible. So much is better if I can figure out the blasted thing. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: With the right dishes.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: WINE, like wine, got much better with age.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i think mapper is essential to me
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think zmud is easier to get into, but mush has more potential
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: how is it essential
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but i loved mudlet, it had auto rewield after disarm
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like Mapper to him is how he functions.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can script that anywhere :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: aardwolf bracers of iron grip.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Except telnet.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: *sigh* New age of mapper reliancy.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I wish I knew how to use 
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i played for 8 years without a mapper until i got tired of mapperbots :p
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: enough trolling
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn joined them
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I can play just fine without a map. It just isn't fun. And if it isn't fun, I don't want to play. So there. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never used a mapper and still beat mapperbots in gqs
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Who's trolling?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i've had and maintained a mapper for years, i still don't use it.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak nods at Seltsimees Dagnir and says, "I concur." Why didn't you?!
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I made a char here just before aardmush was released - wish I had stuck around until it was, but the whole 'where the f am I' left me rather bored
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ooo change is bad.. lets keep gnome 2... oo change is bad, lets use windows xp
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xp is good
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: see what i mean
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: XP was a good call Vista-wise
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I do use XP and I do use Gnome 2
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh don't start with gnome 2. I'm about to go back to Debian because Ubuntu looks terrible now to me.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just uninstall Unity and stick with Gnome 2.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ok... the problem is more serious than i thought
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I use a personal computer, not a bloody phone.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the role of OS (like XP) is to start application
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: sudo apt-get remove unity
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: works until 11.10 Trurien
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: you need to know that the same difficulties surfaced when linux moved from 1.X to 2.X
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm yet to get there, I see no need to upgrade for the sake of upgrading.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: now linux is 3.X, we got a lot of hardware problems
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: No, the role of an operating system is to be a comfortable and productive interface to my computer. My computer is not a toaster that needs only a "start" button.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: exactly, and mapper is productive
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: For you, yes. So you can continue to think so :)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I upgrade when I have to these days -- for my on-the-road laptops this means never
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I only upgraded for kernel support for my wifi card instead of buggy drivers
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: and for those who don't use mapper, is like my dad refusing to learn excel
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Excel is a pos
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: he says writing on paper is faster than typing on the computer
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: There is nothing wrong with not using a mapper, and there is nothing wrong with using a mapper.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: woah that's a very sweeping statement.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: sudo apt-get remove --purge unity;sudo apt-get autoremove ftw
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: anyone else using MUSHc under wine -- since I went to Unity it is chewing my processor up
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah, those are two different things.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Autoremove clears up unneeded autoinstalled dependencies?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yeah
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It should.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If it has enough aptitude.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well, that's excellent, for as long as Ubuntu doesn't accidentally regress GNOME 2.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: use linux mint if you really detest unity
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thwgatrostei peers intently at Trurien.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Mint's ok, too
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: 11.10's unity seems very nice
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I personally prefer Arch above all other linux distros
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( linux is a server os... )
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I like 100% of Ubuntu -except- unity, though. I'd rather not lose the rest.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Linux is a kernel, not an OS.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i sense flamebait from dagnir... don't take it
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not tried 11.10 yet -- hope that Unity 2d has improved a bit
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 11.04 unit pissed me off, i removed it, sticking with .04 for a while.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's OK, it helps the discussion :)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien pats Seltsimees Dagnir on his head.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: unity*
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is also clone (open source) of windows nt, don't remember it's name
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean GNU/linux
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want to nitpick :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Some kind of Real ... whatever, Trachx.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ubuntu 11.10 is going to be out next month
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Back in the 90s, Stallman actually came to a local uni and sang to the audience. True story.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think it had Real in its name.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh, that's umm...
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using vmware and such clone, you might be able to run mushclient under linux
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Damnit, it's on the tip of my tongue
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But I don't want MUSH.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I'm not going to use it. That's all there is to this :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: VirtualBox is the best really, if your processor is matched and powerful enough.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ubuntu has snapping windows, new app store, uh, i mean software centre, and ultra patronising scroller that takes little space but easy to click because clicky things appear
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: There's LinuxXp but that's not the one i'm thinking of
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: in 11.10
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh the scroller is so obnoxious! If I didn't use my mouse's wheel most of the time, I'd be screaming by now.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so does 11.04
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ReactOS
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't use 11.10, what scroller?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: they solved it on 11.10
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, that's also not the one I was thinking of.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I think so.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: kekeke
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: u haven't seen how awesome it is
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is it on Youtube?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Does 11.10 feel less like it's trying to turn my powerful computer into a crappy little touchphone?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: search overlay scrollbars ubuntu
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: you can install it in 11.04
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: if u're a non-upgrader
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my issue with 11.04 is that it turned my crappy computer into a crappier computer
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: you mean like windows 8 is going to do? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Second link: How to disable overlay scrollbars. That should tell someone something.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I find 11.04 fine once you ditch unity
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: #1 rule with Windows - skip a release!
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Everyone knows only every other Windows is worth using. Just like Star Trek movies.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rather wait for 2nd service pack
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: windows 7 was fine, i don't tink its superb
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: windows 7 is superb
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: 3.1 98 XP 7 are the non-craptastic ones.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's decent, i wouldn't say superb
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: that was because vista was so shit 
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I liked 95
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Language
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Gimme ME back, i'll be ok.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Of course, Windows 7 is less customizeable than my mousepad, but that's Microsoft for ya: They know better! Or think they do.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ME failed my hdd 3 goddamn times
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: sorry, i couldn't find a better word
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow at Thwgatrostei's weird actions.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Deleted the entire header each time
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: windows 7 multitouch scrolling is nonsense
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What's that? iPads have multitouch? Let's get that word in there sometime
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: if you can get a mac, why get windows? if you can't afford a mac, get linux.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: multitouch on my lenovo is working fine. custom synaptics driver
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I don't approve of a company that solders its batteries onto its devices' motherboards.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: in other words, If you have a lot of money, get mac. If you have a lot of time, get linux. If you have a lot of time and money, get windows
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The only reason I use Windows is for gaming. Hardware and DirectX support in Linux/WINE is vastly inadequate.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lenovo is a joke on all front, in my opinion
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you want to be compatible and relevant to employers, use Windows
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ubuntu is compatible and relevant for corporate use
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i love my t400, one of the best laptops i've ever had
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: spare 11.04, but 10.10 was very stable, responsive, almost free of viruses
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Pfft, gaming is the only front on which windows has the advantage anymore.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: If I could play my games under GNU/Linux, I would not even own Windows.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Linux ties you to networking and web - Windows is the full package
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: and runs on older hardware
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Ties me to huh?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For employable status
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i can play my games under ubuntu with wine
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: or onlive gaming(at a price)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, but i'll admit it's not up to par with gaming on windows
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: onlive gaming is up to par with windows
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I have a GTX 460, and games run about as well as on a 7000-series under WINE.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: which games?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: DCUO, DDO, WoW (formerly, not anymore), Just Cause 2, Magicka, anything decently graphically-intensive.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm running around 40 computers running ubuntu (lucid), xp and 7 in a hostel chain. i'm having least issues with 7 and most with xp
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Games under wine seem to occupy way to much CPU compared to their windows counterparts.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Vakieh -- computing has a long, long tail. I use linux to do bioinformatics which is hardly networking or the web
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: on the otherhand cheeze, wine may be able to play certain games with lower gpu
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: of course when 'emulating' CPU is the most important factor
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The only games that run under WINE well are the ones that use OpenGL.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: if you want to play games, use a strong processor, you can cut down on the ram though
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If that's the case, I haven't found them. I just gave up on gaming on windows, i saved 350GB of my 800GB HDD for my windows partition just for gaming. Good enough for me.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: gaming on linux*
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I shouldn't have to buy a processor of strength G to play games on WINE as if my processor were strength 0.4G.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i play cod4, dragon age, need for speed underground, torchlight just fine
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but you can have a ram of 1G instead of 2G
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: windows eats a lot of ram
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Aero eats alot of ram on it's own
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: and you need to restart once it gets slow
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Plus all the backend trash
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Uh-oh. Seltsimees Dagnir is pointing at MeisterP, screaming, "LIES!" once again.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: RAM is the least expensive part of a gaming rig.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: and processor is not much more expensive
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Indeed.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: GPU is the toughest.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ram is cheap, good processors are expensive
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but both don't need harsh GPUs
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just put together a gaming rig for 1k euros. ca 600 was spent on cpu and gpu
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Well-written programs need a good GPU. Crappy programs need a good CPU.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: my gpu cost 7x my processor
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I put together a gaming rig for about 700$ (with employee, student, etc discounts)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: my processor sucked. lol, should have gotten a quad core
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: good overgeneralisation are correct, bad overgeneratlisations are overgeneral
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I made a 3.4 GHz quad-core GTX 460 and 4 GiB RAM machine for $700.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but its 5 years old and runs the newest games, so i'm not complaining
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: my windows died on me, on that 5 year old comp
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: died on me twice
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's amazing the cheap crap you can get if you hit it off with the IT guy from your school :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: try running cpu-intensive games, MeisterP
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: I did, dragon age not intensive enough?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: not at all
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hmm so what is cpu intensive?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: EQ2.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i play nwn2 as well
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: X3:TC
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: and guild wars
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Diable
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Diablo*
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: X3 is native on linux
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i run diablo 2 on it easy
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: even on my netbook
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: le gasp
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: even with mods
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It would freeze my netbook without fail, lol
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: diablo 2 is like 20 years old now :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Heh
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: my netbook is an acer ferrari one 200
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What's 3's date now?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: spring 2012 I think
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: My netbook was a lenovo, which i've already relayed my hatred for.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Screw D3 though. No mod support, no singleplayer. Do TL2 instead.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: aww... try asus next time
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i intend to play TL2 instead of D3
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: TL?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: wine runs starcraft 2 very well as well
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Torchlight, made by a bunch of the Diablo 2 developers.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: speaking of blizzard games
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh, bah -- I don't like torchlight
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: dead island is awesome..
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thwgatrostei -(
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: lead designers you mean
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah yeah.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cheeze, if you buy lenovo, get a thinkpad
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I didn't buy it, it was a school computer
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Torchlight with a higher texture resolution mod is amazing.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i don't buy netbooks, i'll just stick with an actual laptop
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: nowadays gaming netbooks can play games really well
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: at a price of course, like the alienware m11x
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gaming netbooks?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: That's oxymoronic.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: You can say gaming laptop, but gaming netbook just doesn't work.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: u haven't tried the m11x?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, alienwares aren't even notebooks. more like portable desktop replacements
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: nvidia optimus allows conservation of battery, letting you to switch to the intel card when not using graphic intensive programs
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Saying alienware making a netbook is like saying maserati making a hybrid.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: it is more than a year old already
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: the alienware netbook
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: I think you mean moped*
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my 3 year old lenovo can do that, meisterp
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, not too big on the idea of alienware moving to netbook production
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: just so you know, Maserati IS making a hybrid.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Oh god.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but your gpu is not as strong
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Someone just nuke 'em already.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: gpu is like a penis
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You have a fan on yours?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Does yours get really hot when you use it too much?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: it has cooling mechanisms
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Everything as I know it is crumbling around me. Alienware, maserati ... Oh god, the humanity!
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thwgatrostei cowers in a corner and whimpers softly.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what about the performance? i'm just stating that switchable graphics isn't anything exiting
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Heh, my gaming rig doesn't have a fan :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Convective cooling on a gaming rig? Are you insane?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger . o O ( Mineral oil computer )
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Ever heard of a beige toaster?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: it has an i5 processor
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: gt 335m gfx card
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: my toaster is 4 slot and its white, also have a stainles, never heard of beige thwga
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lim: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/beige+toaster
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Beige toaster = early convectively-cooled Macs. Created a very good 3rd-party market for cooling kits.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Not a literal question :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Limunious P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Limunious winks suggestively.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: what makes u guys play aardwolf anyway, when your computer can run graphic intensive games?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Because graphical quality is not an absolute. Good graphics mean the graphics suit the game.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The DS graphical port of Dragon Quest IV, for example, is actually less visually-appealing than the original 8-bit graphics.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: But the remake of Skies of Arcadia for GameCube (originally Dreamcast) is vastly superior.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: If you say "why do you play a text game when you can play graphical games", you are really saying that text games are inferior by definition to graphical games, and playing Aardwolf would only be "I'm not capable of anything better". You don't think that's true, do you?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: anyone using mudlet + mag ? can't seem to get the map working
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i used mudlet, didn't have problems with mag
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: os x 10.6?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: I did for awhile, always seemed to be breaking. Packed it in and went with MUSHClient. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: ahh I'm stuck with os x
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: any recomendation on a client offering similar features under os x?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: use wine and mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: wine + mushclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: win + mushclient? never looked into it...
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I heard Cantrip was all right for Mac.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: wine rather
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: wine allows you to run the windows version of mush on your mac, also allows you to run many other windows programs on your mac
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: ..then why get a Mac?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: i'm familiar with it from linux, never realised it was ported to os x
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: lol it's my work machine
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: well more accurately, I work for them so its the computer I use
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: because mac has capabilities windows doesn't have
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: like superior multitouch gestures, virtual desktops etc
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: lol didn't mean to start the mac vs pc thing
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i sense a flamebait
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: not you
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yes, so why would you run Windows stuff on it? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: linux
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you're just arguing with yourself for the sake of arguing, meisterP
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: "I sense a flamebait"
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: trurien because mac can do both
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: so.... cantrip functionality - can I do something similar to mushclient and mudlet
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: no, cantrip is rather limited.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Mac can't do anything but cost tripple the price of what it should be and look shiny.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: with the chat isolated window
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't know, Chookhead. Frankly, it's been a long time since I heard about Cantrip.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: chook, tbh, just use wine>Mush
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: kk - seems to be upvoted... looking at it
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i left mudlet cuz the map is so ugly
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have tintin++ and I wrote my own chat window...
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's not hard if even a chump like me can do it.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: have u written a mapper window? care to share?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mapper no, but I have a minimap on the side.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just captures what's between <map> tags and puts it in a text file.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: nice all
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i got the big map thats so ugly i feel sad, and mapper commands are great for quests
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: I can't believe I'm in the industry
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: and never noticed wine is on os x
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its pretty decent, no lag.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, are you a Genius(TM)?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: what's better, it's in macports base
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: initially i had problems with fonts on mush, but they fixed that
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I dont understand, if you're so hung up about mapper, just use Aard Mush
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: port install wine
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: or are you just trying to sound vastly superior?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: mudlet has the autorewield weapon when disarmed
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I use mush on wine, and it is pretty good
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a setup in the wiki Fiendish was kind enough to put together.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I suppose you think it's smart to use mudlet for autowield ...........
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: when you can just buy aardwolf bracers of iron grip.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MeisterP: Have someone write you a script that does that.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just go with Mush on wine since it's recommended.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i don't have that kind of QP
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: or write your own trigger
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there's an autowield for mush as well
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Exactly.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: autorewield is a one line trigger..
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: learn to write a trigger.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oo is there?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I believe so -- I have my own, but I am sure I saw on in Bast's stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i must first experience a disarm before i know what the exact trigger is
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just don't choose Mush only because Aardmush is the best and we all must have it.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As long as you know there are alternatives :)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: and usually when i get disarmed, i am too busy to record down what happens
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's where triggers come in handy.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: too busy?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: scroll up later then
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: yea, because when i am actually free, i just don't happen to get disarmed
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: That was odd. My netbook charger was trying to charge my battery, but nothing happened (blinking LED light)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: do you mean, you're actually playing while afk.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: "busy"?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: After playing with it for a while, it's suddenly charging. :O
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i play every 30 mins
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: so how do you get disarmed in the 30 minute window where you are not playing.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: when i am questing, suddenly i get disarmed
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: sometimes in an aggro mob area
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: but... you are too busy to notice it happening?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: sometimes its just not worth it to go back in, and pretty short of time to complete the quest
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i work on a netbook
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: so sometimes, it just slips off the screen
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: its tiny
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: scroll back?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i go afk once quest completed
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: when i realise it, the text is way behind
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: firstly, scroll back. secondly, quests have close to an hour now.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you clearly aren't afk now.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: now is weekend
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i am free
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: but i don't get disarmed on weekend
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No that was Chook.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: when someone disarms my weapon, will it drop on the floor?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at MeisterP, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: not really a question for tech :P but yes, if it's not an aard weapon
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If it's an Aardweapon it goes into the inventory.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: unles it is an aard weapon
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i was writing a script, so i used tech channel
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: so that means, if i'm blinded, and flee a room whcih is impossible to clear, and got disarmed, my weapon is gone unless i risk entering again?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: still, it wasn't a question about how to actually write the script :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i was gonna follow up with another question
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or unless you simply ask someone else for help
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hmm... and if i were spamming 'cast X spell' the disarm script won't work?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will be delayed
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripts just type commands as if you typed them...
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so all the MUD knows is that you typed c attack 4 times, then g weapon
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: so they cannot interrupt previously input command?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: well, you could write a client-side command buffer...
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only way they could do that is if you ran an always-run script that stole all stuff being sent to the MUD and delayed it from actually being sent to set up a command stack
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: but really, it's more trouble than it's worth
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ok..
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, swalec's weapon switcher plugin included in bast's folder has an auto-rearm trigger in it
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hmm so how does the script know which weapon to pick up. i am currently using take all,wear all
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You have to capture the name of the weapon that dropped, MeisterP.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: its primary function is to switch between weapons
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec is always happy to see things attributed to him, even when it's not true
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, nod, it's onoitsu's
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celanil Tech: if i had to guess, it uses invmon and the id number
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's way older than invmon
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you haven't set your weapon, it'll do get all;wear all, if you have set it, it'll get item;wield item
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, btw meister, if you have someone cast resonate on your weapons so they hum, you can get them even when blind :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i'm using onoitsu's weapon switcher, when i switch weapon, the weapon doesn't go into the container, but taking out of the container works
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: does the plugin automatically put weapons into the container, the help file says it does
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oh, it works now
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to set the bag/container.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i know, taking out was ok, but it doesn't put the weapon back in, suddenly it started working
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i have an alias, that automatically sends me to questor and reports completed quest that goes like 'wear portal,enter,run 2e,quest complete'
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: how do i tell the alias not to run 2e if i am in a no-portal room
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get out of the noportal room, then call the alias
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: how would i know its a noportal room?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't know about the magic walls until after it has sent the 2e to the MUD
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: it will know the magic walls once the enter command is run
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the other commands are SENT before ANYTHING is run
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: hmm
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: is it possible to write a 2 layer alias?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the same as the stacking attacks with disarm/rearm
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: which is too much trouble for what its worth?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: alias name command 1 <semicolon> command 2
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: druzil, that's not what he means
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, instead of your alias doing wear portal ; enter ; run 2e, have it mapper goto the room 2e
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper will learn which rooms are noportal, and won't attempt to go there through the portal
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (set up your mapper portal to recall using the mapper portal commands...mapper help for details)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: good idea
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: thx abel
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oops
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: mapper is having problems being used in alias
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which alias, MeisterP?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: it says, that is not a command
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to Send to Execute
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: i type mapper goto 28580
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: ok, thx
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: how do i send to execute?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: nvm stupid question
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: how do i add a delay to a command
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: or delay using alias
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: how do i add a delay before running a command in alias?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any idea how to change the hardtitle on a split window in screen?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have the main hardtitle set to black, but the one on the split screen is in white.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: my antivirus keeps poping up messages about luhe framework? anyone heard of that?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Any tt++ users here know if you're able to interface your system's crontab with an event inside the client, or will i just have to write to a text file and then monitor the file for change?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: what is the command to spellup other player with bast's Script?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsp other <char> fast
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: having problens with my client crashing a lot. what would you suggest?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which client?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: What client?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: mush
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: nm
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: mush
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: btw thanks a lot Bast
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you doing anything specific before it crashes?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Mohan: np
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: usually considering things
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try disabling the consider plugin, if you use it
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have a consider script that highlights or underlines certain mobs?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: i'm using your plugin bast.....
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or changes the chuckles to +5-9
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: disable the consider plugin and see if that helps, although I don't know what it does that would crash the client
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: so i should just disable that plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, disabling it will let you (and us) know if it was the problem
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: sorry didn't see your comment til after i hit enter
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: well that seemed to help. hmmm. too bad, i like the plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: so, my charger wasn't working this morning, and after playing with it after work, i got it working. i took the charger out of the charging port, and now it won't charge again. (when it doesn't charge, I get a blinking LED light.) Would it help if I gave the model/make of the netbook? And I'm trying to find a fix that doesn't require buying a new charger. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take the netbook and charger to a store that sells them, try plugging the netbook into one of their display model's chargers to see if it charges...try plugging one of the display netbooks into your charger to see if it charges...at the moment you don't know if the problem is in the charger or the netbook
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: It's the charger, I'm very confident about that.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, then you don't need our help :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: i'm pretty sure it, in laymen terms, is just spitting the power back out, so to speak.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: but i keep messing with the charger and repeatedly plugging it in to get it to work. If at all. No luck at the moment though.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: there's no way for it to just 'spit it back out'
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for repeatedly plugging it in, you mean plugging the barrel of it into the netbook?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Not quite. just the adapter portion.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try just giving it a little pressure in different directions
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it has to go in, and have a return current -- so it has to be something with your computer's charger port if the charge is going into still and there's no broken circuits.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: hmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: I wish I could just force it to charge.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: common failure points for laptops for the past 20 years are (1) for the charger, where the adapter meets the cord, (2) for the laptop, where the pin meets the socket, (3) where the socket connects to the mobo
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people moving laptops while they're plugged in (yanking the cord) makes it an easy failure
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: love 'em or hate 'em, Apple solved the problem a few years back on their laptops
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: hate apple?  I love all my apple stuff, im like a walking appls ad
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's why I said love or hate...most people are pretty polar on them ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: they are phenominal to porn on too
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, they avoid all those pr0n viruses, and render in such beautiful fleshtone color
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: so true!
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Tried putting pressure in all directions. Didn't work.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bending the cord where it goes into the adapter, usually they get pretty kinked in one direction
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mine makes damn near a 90 :P
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Is there a way to access a plugin in a trigger
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: want to use com.repop in a trigger in mush
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holliday, have you tried using winklewinkle's event plugin, which includes a repop notifier?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nope
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is an old repops notifier. http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6565
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is down the page some and needs to be updated some.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Yeah, That's not working either, for me, unfortunately (bending the cord where it goes into the adapter)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no reason to use that hack, when we have both repop tags and gmcp repop
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: WTH we have repop tags
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: time to break out a multimeter :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Multimeter? For me?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks Abe
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup gunshin, see what the charger is outputting
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Wish I had one, lmfao. I need to get a new one, period. For an Acer Aspire One. Hope they're not expensive.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wow I feel stupid
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks for tellng me about the repop tags abe
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags" to see what other tags exist ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so winkle's search and destroy - is that as close as you can get to botting without getting nuked?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: seems like a fine line
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The name is misleading, I think.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I was reading the description
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Winkle has his own page, or is it somewhere else?
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: finger winkle
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: His name spelled differently, cant get a finger on 'winkle'
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: winklewinkle
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: np, tks.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: The 'quick where' sounds nice. Would save a small handful of key strokes ^^
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there a myrank command based on efficiency? like you rank in qps/online time  or exp earned/online hours
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nope
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: bummer, oh well
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's very idle-friendly :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yea i know!  i get such a late start vs alot of these guys, just curious how i ranked in terms of efficiency of time spent online! lol
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ultimate Say Send me
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi guys
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The answer is no.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: wow the mushclient is much nicer than trying to get mudlet+mag working
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: quick question on Aard's custom Mushclient, how does one disable the wolf pic in background? I can't seem to find the config for it anywhere.
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rename the pic file itself
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: easy enough, ty kindly :)
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: delete bg13 img.. somehting liek that.. be warned.. soem version will cause errors if this file is missing
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_remove_or_change_the_Aardwolf_logo_background_image_in
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nice, he added it to his faq
T3/r4/2011-09-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: I haven't used the custom Mush in a while, since before the mapper. I am really digging this I must say. 
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if one wanted to try to make their own mud, how much C do they have to know?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and is it a good way to learn c?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to know any C to start with...copypasta obvious stuff to start
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Technically none, and no.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd say they need to have written a coouple of 100k lines of C code before.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: (C's not the only option. I'm not saying you don't need to know how to write in SOMETHING.)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oh.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grab a codebase, unpack it, compile it, look through the code...copy one spell to make another, etc
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok, but like if i have downloaded the diku source gzip file... it's in C
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change strcmp to strncmp
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so how much C do i need to know to work with that?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to be able to read logically, don't need to know c
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr is that the 100k lines you were talking about then?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I thought you meant writing one from scratch. Then youi need 100k lines of prev experience.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't be making Aard (whose coder IS a pro, and he's taken a decade and a half to get where we are), but you can customize a stock MUD to make it look less stock
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah no. i don't mind keeping the diku written by thing in there
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i just mean, to get it up and running, and be able to add modules n stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you're gonna start with a dikuish MUD, start with envy
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and make sure that nobody puts tildes in their password
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: scared of tildes?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think he's thinking of the ~-delimited pfiles
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: yes. i'm afraid of people whose passwords contain tildes... they might gain access to goto and slay
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if only it were that easy
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, a return to the days of backdoors all over the place
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i tried turning it on, and so far it just says that its listening on 4444
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good, then telnet to your IP 4444
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: create yourself as a newbie, then level a bit (gotta get to a saveable state to have a pfile that you can make GOD)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, came across my pfile from the MUD I ran years ago...Bamfout      utters the words, 'sraiz gpuyh'.~
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: hey, anyone running mushclient on os x via wine?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite a few people do that, yup :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: specifically, it works well except I'm getting weird graphic artifacts
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: and I'm pretty sure other people run it successfully (without the artifacts) :p
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, definitely people run it without that issue
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: I might switch to the wine version hosted at code.google
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: possibly the version of wine you're using doesn't like the vid card you have?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: yeah - the wine version is the latest from macports
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: probably not good at digesting mush, pardon the pun
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone have yea or nay thoughts on an LG W2753VC 27" monitor?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i say nay... if you are a good typist you don't need a monitor
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Dunno about that one, but I have LG both at home and work and I am quite happy with them.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using a BenQ 22 atm, so anything will be an improvement - I guess for 315 I'll just go for it
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: remember the good old days when a 17 inch monitor was huge... :)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sigh...I go use my 15" laptop and think WHERE DID MY SCREEN GO?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: I konw that feeling, 27" apple display isn't big enough
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: and I have 2 plus my laptop at work
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: but work is more greed than need lol
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'd dual monitor instead, but my 2nd output is already going to the tv :-( Mebbe time for a second GPU
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: for TV, if it's for movies I say DLNA enabled tv ftw
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: hmmm my version of wine is only 1 minor point release ahead of the one on code.google
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: sooooooo.... lesson learned
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: the latest version of wine from macports causes graphical redraw artifacts with mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: can finally buckle down and actually play the game :)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But you finally solved the wine/mush issues?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so just moving back one version prior and it's better?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: yeah, not the way I liked
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: it's a lot better
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: it's nasty on the latest from repo
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: but it looks more like wine bug than mush bug
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as you don't use other stuff under wine that likes that version better, doesn't really hurt to just stick with this one :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chookhead Tech: tis true :)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: this is frustrating... i used to have a very unstable internet connection so i downloaded getright to be able to download larger files. My connection has since stabilized, so I uninstalled it. Unfortunately, mozilla is still trying to pass downloads off to getright even though it's not there anymore. Any advice?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: uninstall firefox then reinstall it
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: k
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ok, small problem. i don't have an installable firefox file and when i try to get a new one, it tries to pass it off to a non-existant getright
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Which OS?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's ok, i thought i uninstalled my ie, but i kept it for situations just like this
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Don't think it's possible to actually uninstall IE. It just removes access to it.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: If you're on Windows, I mean.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I keep ie for testing how my pages look in ie...always needs a hack :-(
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yeah, Microsoft does that on purpose, so stupid people go "why does your site not work" when really it's IE's fault, and that ties you to Microsoft against your will.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i am on windows and i seem to remember having some program that bypasses permissions and deletes things. but i think i was running low on space so i had to get rid of it instead
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Gorsk, Unlocker is a very small program that can be used for that purpose
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: goddamn you iTunes, I don't want to update, and I don't want your !%!%!#$^%!#$ Quicktime!
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Enghol agrees!
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Don't use intrusive nagware then?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: stop itunes from making outbound connections with your firewall.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: stop using crappy software?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: is there a way to change the color of the channels in muchclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: help colorset
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tnx
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sabba Tech: does somebody use tintin++ client?!
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Anyone know how to get Fiendish's statmon plugin to be able to use char.base data?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all fiendish's stuff uses gmcp already
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it should already do that, it gets all of its info from gmcp
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I'm aware of that, but using base gives a nul value error whereas stats and maxstats and such don't.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I added "or text == "char.base"" to the end of it in OnPluginBroadcast but that didn't help.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Don't quote the char.base, that makes it a literal string
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you talking about?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: No, no, that's a differnt function.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the real question?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: OnPluginBroadcast has a long if statement that includes char.vitals and such.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is the error that you are getting in the first place?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: The question is I'm trying to add things like base.name but it gives "a nil value" error.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't get nulls from char.base
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: [string "Plugin"]:113: attempt to index global 'base' (a nil value)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I think it should be char.base.name
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Bast.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: But the rest is just stats.str and such.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you want to get from char.base?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: name class tier remorts (etc)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't remember your name?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: With a name like that, I can understand why.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess in your case that's reasonable
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins also only grab data from gmcp after that data is sent from gmcp...if you alter it while connected to want something else, that data won't be cached, which makes it null...the next start of mush, or reconnect to aard, would fix it, or you can type prot gmcp sendbase
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I already tried restarting the client to get a fresh set of info.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think char.base should always be cached
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Also, I want to do it because I want to do it. If you don't want to help or you feel I'm annoying you, please ignore me instead of being unhelpful.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: too sensitive
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: They were just joking with you, chill.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody said no help...but when you ask only a tiny part of the question with no background, the help will be wrong
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want GOOD help, we need that info
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I want to use the gmcp data contained in char.base just as the plugin already uses the gmcp data contained in char.stats, char.maxstats, etc.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if should already be there, the entire char table is cached everytime, did you try level = char.base.level (this one is correct) or are you doing level = base.level?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: I'm doing base.name, because the plugin already does vitals.moves, stats.hr, etc.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: If I try using char.base.name, now I get that "char" is a nil value.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just added          print(gmcpval("base.name"))    to the statmon plugin and it works fine
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you using gmcpval("base.name")
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: looking at the plugin, he uses gmcpval("stats.str") to get char stuff, are you doing that?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone use photoshop elements?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or trying to just use base.name as a variable
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Or I could be a complete and total moron. *sigh* Thank you for your help.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to use just base.name, you'd need to make that a plugin variable base.name = gmcpval("base.name")
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Yes, I forgot the function call.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: We need a 'pebcak' social.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Feel free to make one.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and just what is "pebcak"?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav snickers softly.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: Problem exists between chair and keyboard.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It's equivalent to an ID Ten Tee error. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that one i know
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Or ID 10 T error. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or a layer 8 error :D
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thwgatrostei Tech: lp1 on fire
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: dont know layer 8
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's more of a networking thing.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what has changed with mapper with last release? more commits? HDD makes a lot of noise while crossing continent
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or maybe more disk flushes
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing appears to have been changed that should impact running on continents, from commits listed at http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/source/list & looking back past september
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, when I go across continent it seems like mapper do HDD flush after each room
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can update_gmcp_sectors be culprit? 
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I've got a div that I want to make clickable and want it to be seo-friendly, how can I do that ? Is JS/JQ onclick the best option ?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: found out how to do it - put href around the text in the most inner div, and process larger outer div's onclick in jq with .find('a').attr('href')
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: whats the command to change the number of lines u see in combat?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damage
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wink Tech: "damage #" ?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Has anyone tried BackTrack 5 yet?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know if a fuel pump from a chevy astrovan will fit in a blazer?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: with or without heavy modifications?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first can just check part numbers to see if they're the same box...
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: does running aard on a smartphone use a lot of data?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, and you can customize how much stuff you see
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: I don't think so. It could also depend on the phone itself.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the phone?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Maybe. I'm guessing something like say, an Epic 4G wouldn't take as much effort to run Aard as would say, a Sanyo Zio.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toker Tech: cool thanks. any particular way to play it best on an iphone?
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wasn't asking about effort, he was asking about data usage
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. does he need a 5GB/month plan
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Ah. It'd do me well to read. Thank you, my apologies.
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've been online for 10 hours, and according to 'compress', I've used less than 2.5MB (before MCCP)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Granted, all 10 of those hours have been doing basically nothing at all
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that those are bytes, not kilobytes ;-)
T3/r4/2011-09-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods.  Bytes In :   2532609
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: anyone know of a program I can install on my wifes computer as to limit her bandwidth ? as in only able to use 10k out of 512k or something like that
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: that's not very nice
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: That's evil
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: get a router with QoS
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone have experience with Netbeans on?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I only have experience when netbeans off
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Morning all. Stupid question of the day. In a borne shell, what is the correct way to declare a variable like $date?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bourne
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Bourne, sorry. I have $date=`date $$u...etc`
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: %%u, even
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no declaring variables in bash
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: simply, VAT=`date`
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: VAR=`date`
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: $VAR can be later used to refenrence variable
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Knew I'd feel stupid
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: One else statement away from being done. 
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, non declaring variables lanugages are dangerous
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: The syntax for bourne for a for loop is 'for i' 'don', then at ethe end 'done', right?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: do, even
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for file in $file.txt; do echo $file; done
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for file in *.txt; do echo $file; done
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: important semicolons
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Trying to do a list of instructions on every $filename tacked onto the end of the script
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: between do and done you can place multiple instruction in multiple lines
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though sometimes 'find' and 'xargs' are also quite useful
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: So for $filename; then do and done?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for file in *; do echo $file; ls -l $file; done
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for loop consistst of 'for' 'in' 'do' and 'done' with some variables / lists / instructions between them
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though using variables like 'file' or 'test' can lead to unexpected behaviours
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Still getting a syntax error bear unexpected token `done'
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: most untyped languages don't require you to declare variables
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably you lack semicolon
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, strong typed languages are much safer, but not so convenient to use as weak typed languages or untyped languages 
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: How large is wireshark?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what is?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it a great white? }:>
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: how large is a hole?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: full-sized
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: Holy #### there are people on this channel.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Size (wireshark-1.4.7.tar.bz2) = 20515206 bytes
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RMD160 (wireshark-1.4.7.tar.bz2) = 012ec4d7750c03bcc23e9140f31e778cde6fd645
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what about string.. how long is string?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: sizeof(string)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: 4 bytes plus 2 bytes per character, if I recall
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: it depends on what string.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sadly, Gunshin Tech: Will zMUD work in WINE under Back Track 5? (The stock WINE that comes with BT5)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: the string that came off my shirt was about 3 inches long
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: backtrack is a highly-specialized distro. You're not supposed to actually USE it
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Holliday - can you tell me if there is a plugin for repops?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sadly, Gunshin Tech: I understand it's for pentesting.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's meant for one thing, and not for general use
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you dont need one Winkle
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ZMud works with older versions of wine, newer versions of wine will probably make you prefer CMud unless you are willing to change to some other emulator with a better compatibility record.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just turn repop tags on
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sadly, Gunshin Tech: What version of WINE would you recommend, Dokkar?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: an older one.  I use zmud/cmud natively, so I can't help you anymore than that.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sadly, Gunshin Tech: Thank you.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: NTFS or FAT32 for portable storage?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: fat32
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sadly, Gunshin Tech: FAT32.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ext3
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bonk Bast on the head for being such a moron.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: why (benefits, etc)?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compatibility
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: eveything I own runs linux, sorry
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelincthinksheknowsall!
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Actually I'd go with NTSC format.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for portable storage, you actually want portability/usability on many devices
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: and if all your friends are power users?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, fat32 is what you want
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the point of portability is to not be restricted to everything YOU own, bast
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i will just do like a 8 gig flash drive for portable storage personally
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: point
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i know, i know, i forgot the smiley after it, sorry :)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: dwarf fortress anyone?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: haven't they figured out how to partition those things yet?  They're certainly big enough, so just double load it and then anyone can use it.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: partitioning works fine on them...but then you still don't have access
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: random question, what is virtual address space?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oddguy, that'd depend on context
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an abstraction of memory rather than hardware addressing
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: do i need an mta if i want local mailboxes for each of my user accounts?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: virtual address space is how the kernel maps your memory. It usually maps it to frames of 4 KB, so that they can be swapped out to a pagefile or back in. So 0xCEd3F may not be the same address in physical memory, for example.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you always need mta
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: anybody LAN? and what.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sorrenson. what does it mean if i have built a relocatable kernel?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: practically everybody lans now.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: trachx, k , i will try to get
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that the kernel can change which part of memory it's in
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Just means that the kernel can be moved.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how do you actually move a kernel though?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in theory you can reload kernel without turning off computer
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: The kernel can reloacate itself. It happens, for example when it's loaded. The kernel is compressed, so it can be decompressed then moved.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: That's not really a great example, but whatever.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if i elect for the kernel compression type to be lzo, or gzip, or bzip2, do i need the userspace tools to support this?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: no. The boot process does it
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but the loader must support it
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: It has to decompress the image before it even loads it. You're not in userspace by that point.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: you know that indie game minecraft? Some guy made a working cpu with storage memory that can handle basic calculations. Google it.:)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if i am using utf-8 for my system, do i need anyof the other nls codepages?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if everthing uses utf-8 then you don't need other NLS
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what if... i only tell everything to use utf-8, but it may or may notlisten
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: also, search OpenPuff, its a program for decent stenography.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Not everything will use utf8.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: k
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: take for example fat32, how can you force it to use utf-8 ?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: If you're compiling a kernel though, it's not going to make a huge difference. There's plenty of other stuff you can rip out that'd make a size difference in terms of how big your binary is more than codepages.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: well, i'd like to compile a kernel that will work with a ltsp setup.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, you are asking this questions due to recompile kernel?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: ltsp?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: yes. i am thinking of making more specific kernel with fewer un-needed options plugged in
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ltsp - linux terminal server project
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: ah. lots more you could cut out to make a difference over codepage.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: pxe/ or similar network boot
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cut hardware you don't have
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so a lot of stations with X-servers ?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sorressean nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so it'll have to support 'all' of the network cards (or be tailer by mac/ip)... and the same for video more or less
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but i want to cut back on the other crud if i can.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually vesa is enough
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: what you running aard from?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: no, not a lot. just... 4
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the network card types you have, not all network cards
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: aard, from the laptop
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: That's something I've never been able to do. I've got my own working kernel I'm building to mess with, and I still can't manage to get the damned kernel to compile. I always have to find some sighted person to read me the error message, and that never works out. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: vampire, specs
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oddguy, why?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: It just needs your network card. and you don't do mac/IP configuration from kernel config
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: no reason really.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sorrensen, you can... but since it is a pxe boot the network server is going to read the mac address and hand out a specific kernel and init
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: or its going to hand out one bloated one to all.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: either way, the same ip to the same mac every boot. every day. every week
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: the server handles that though.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: not your kernel config
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: right.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but i can configure the server, to give a specific kernel to a specific mac
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: that part's really easy.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sorressean nods
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: the hard part is remembering to set the server card in master mode
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sorressean what 'ld you suggest cutting  ?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: hardware you don't need
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: when a memory controller asks memory for some address, does it send a certain voltage to the chip, or a series of electrical signals 1 for each binary digit in the address to the chip?  and then how does it know when the address is through?  if you're at address 0 on a 64 bit machine, does the cpu send 64 zeros to the memory chip?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: well, i need networking protocols, crypto, usb/ehci mass storage
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: will need video and audio
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but most of that can be modular
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: you don't need all the networking protocols. And you can cut out like ide storeage, joicestick, serial/parport, soundcards, etc.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: since there won't be a boot menu, i won't need a graphics card compiled in.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: right, not all the protocols. but all the cards
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: No. you don't need all the cards...
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Pick your card, junk the rest.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sorressean that would require more customization... i want the general pxe boot-friendly kernel regardless of the card
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so the end result may be a larger kernel. =(
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: so just include the cards for your servers if you want to hand out the same kernel to each...
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: or at least... a larger nfs transfer
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: right. 
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whats the difference, 1 or 2 mega kernel more ?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: as long as its hash matches the server records, none =)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: depends on how many servers and that. 1 or 2 MB might matter...
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sorressean its the terminals that are receiving the kernel+init
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: basically the idea is that you can have a slow out of date dell sitting there with a monitor, a keyboard and a network card, and then connect to a server that's got all the goodies.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and then suddenly your 4 or 5 slow p.o.s. dells are useful =)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's a return to 1970s computing
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: or even your 10-12 slow p.o.s. dells
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and as it happens, well... i kind of have access to about 27u slow p.o.s. dells with no electric cost.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Meh. that's cool with thin clients, but pulling the kernel from the server isn't going to do much good. The client still has to load stuff. At most your slowing things down more, because if -everything- is networked, you have to pull your programs from there too.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so if i can learn how to use and make good utilization of this thing it could be fun
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sorressean yes exactly, you have to pull the programs
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: probably more efficient to give everyone an account on the main server so you can regulate everything, then let the client connect to the server to use the account. Everything could be done on the server.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: it seems like the init file will be an init ramdisk that decompresses on the terminal side from squashfs
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not pulling the programs, you're only displaying them
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and that you then have some of the basic utilities
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're pulling a kernel with xserver, everything else is run from the primary server
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: You're talking about pulling everything from the server. That's going to be slower than just running the programs on the client.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i am thinking that the ram will fill up quickly if you run a lot of things.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sorressean yes, it probably will be slower to copy them from the server initially
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but if they are kept on a virtual disk in the ram of the terminal machine then the reload times will be okay?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i don't know the particulars very well yet ^_^ still and the ' trying to get it all to boot' phase
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what virtual disk?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: menuet's gui's pretty great, and it fits on a single floppy disk with everything else, i guess that's the power of near-optimized assembly - somebody should write a nice little gui x-alternative like that for 32 and 64 bit linux x86 kernels
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: trachx apropos virtual disk?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: talking about saving space and not opening a network vulnerability, there's a good way
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mentioned virutal disk and reload, those don't get together
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: uh. it own't be in a virtual disk. Either way though. Abelinc said the program would be ran on the server, so that works out.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ah. k
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after initial overhead on loading kernel and starting X, the rest works fine
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if the program is run on the server, then i guess its more that the terminals would have remote x's?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: that seems to make sense
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: X programs are ready to be served on remote terminals
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i wonder if xfree/xorg/or xenocara is more lightweight
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though, X protocol is quite uneffective 
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I'm kind of confused what benafit you get from pulling the kernel across the network as opposed to just letting the client load the kernel and connect remotely.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cost effective
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not cost effective, he's using full computers
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also less failurse as there is no hdd
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so centralized management, but no need to use full computers
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he IS using full computers
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should rather remove hdd from such computers
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: If you're using thin clients, go for it. But if you have a full system, just put the system on the kernel.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd be stupid
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: ur. kernel on the system, rather.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: why in gods name would you pull out the harddrive?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, if you have computers with win, then it is easier to run X-ming on them or putty
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, don't think he's looking to MSWindows-ize his operation :P
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thin client has no need for harddrive, either you use full client or thin, first needs HDD, second shouln't have any
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I think we're all aware. But you just recommended removal of the harddrive.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't have any is a HIGHLY false statement
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't need any != shouldn't have any
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many thin client setups do utilize hard drives
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: remove to : lower power consumtion (yes, even 3 Watt sums one day up to kilo Watt), less failures
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, all depends on requirements
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the premise given by VD was that power is not on the table as an issue, and less failures depends on your use of the drives
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if i ran a independent business, i would pay for or build custom software and power unit's/chip design's, depending on the amount of money it's worth
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at The Imp Druzil.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Uh. what?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i possibly have proof of people using a communications protocol over the electrical company wire's, due to this second computer i have being turned on twice in one night, once while plugged to the network, once while not - after being dormant for over a month
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Druzil still tries to pass Turing test
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's worth $300,000 USD for the first machine
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: only a power chord connected to the outside world, and it turned itself on
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: You're smoking to much.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: they talked about that at one of the defcon meetings, maybe 2008
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Step away from the bowl...
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the BIOS setting for "power recovery mode"
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Or he has 'power on when power is restored' set in his bios. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: It's not a "protocol" over the wires.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: nope, that was the real deal, either that or a internal timer turned it on for the first time in over a month, or else there's a ghost with a knack for electricity
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe wake on lan
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or simply short circuit
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i disconnected the ethernet cable after i noticed it happen the first time, and sure enough it turned on again
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: to much weed!
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or one of your 'friends' is screwing with you...lord knows I'd break into your place to mess with stuff if I knew where you lived
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: at the least, all electrical company distribution computer's and monitoring terminals should be bustom built to prevent foreign espionage through their services
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: whatever software you write couldn't prevent the fuel for your server from sending a image of all of it's memory
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I like my bills at reasonable prices, thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the fuel for my server?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: electricity
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, it is hard to transmit data without electrical modem
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm sure if you google what i'm talking about you'll find some research on the subject
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's got to be some explaination of it somewhere
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no explanation for your delusions..
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: much easier is just to spy on electromagnetic waves produced by monitor, or keyboard
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: just saying from what i experienced, and the implications for infiltration if that is in fact what can and does happen
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there ARE ways to pass network info across power lines, but they require special hardware on the part of both computers
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it isn't what can or does happen
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: maybe they haven't gone beyond turning on a plugged in computer, however they managed to make that possible
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you can go to Walmart and buy a Powerline adapter to use your home's power lines as a network
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does you computer have switch ? i mean PSU ?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually auto turn on happens on malfunctioning PSU or mainboard
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: government has incentive's for patching software security and research all the time, why wouldn't they give grants to electrical companies and government internal military designer's to build their custom distribution terminals?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Heh.  I use a powerline adapter for the cigarette port in my cab. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if you can't patch the end users desktop, or the end corporation/government office, then at least you can patch the mechanism that would allow such cover communications from happening
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: druzil, there's nothing to patch
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the power companies aren't going to write custom code to prevent your delusions...
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: stop that nonsense, sure you can do it, but it is much easier just provide users with spy applications
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i'm not so sure about that, i've seen more of the otherwise
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not sure about a lot of things that have no basis in reality...
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if it happened to you, you'd be guessing to, search around for some shady hacker's and they might surprise you
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I auto-power machines on a regular basis, I know the mechanisms for doing so
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure you know how to produce compiler that always will compile-in additional code in application
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: once copile-in process started it will never be stopped
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: infected compiler is quite undetectable
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: microcode, compiler, linker, hardware imports
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's all kinds of unknowns in technology, i doubt anybody could monitor it all completely
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, some kind of last Iranian virus
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it was Sting or something of such name, aimed at automative controllers
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, it is always amazing why people are lazy and don't try to improve security of their computers
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example, we use some AT switches, still we had no time to change default passwords ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: So where do you work again? 9-)
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i say military developer cause somebody serving their country is less likely to be bought than somebody serving 100 countries, not saying anybody's guilty of that that does serve 100 countries but who really knows?  if the end user is insecure, the infrastructure shouldn't have to be that they communicate through, it's should be well worth a trillion dollar investment and probably wouldn't cost near that much in reality
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: think of how much commerce and sensitive information goes over these thing's in a second
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: a trillion dollar's could grab anybody's attention, they'd reinvent the linker and hand sauder a circuit board they custom built the components of to produce, and implement all of them possible threat prevention mechanisms and make sure some system's are off limits to verify the authenticity of the network, i think so anyway, 
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: what the hell can't you buy with a trillion bucks?
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a balanced budget
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: love
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: A trillion and one, one dollar trinkeys
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Love, although you can proabbly increase your chances :P
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: trinkets*
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: you probably wouldn't need near that much to secure the infrastructure in a country though, if not going through corporation's, just going through local genius'
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: well I can't make change
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: AYou don't increase your chances of love, you increase your chances of needing a prenup because that chick is after yo gold
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: (?debate?) throwing lots of money at something does not assure decent results -- the incompetent experts and greedy entrepreurs shall likely find methods to sponge up the monies with mediocre and even worse results
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone use deluge daemon on a linux server and front end on windows 7? 1.33 and 1.32 front-end keeps crashing when i try to use the 'move storage' function. going back to 1.30 now to see if it fixes the problem. daemon is still 1.33
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, must be the linux version. 1.30 used to work on both
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn you, sid repo
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: any way to reset the GCMP mapper area sections... I get this error Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub OnPluginBroadcast
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub OnPluginBroadcast file is encrypted or is not a database
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: sorry for mis paste
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: for anyone who knows the Aardmushclient.. my main window lost the resizing feature in the lower right hand corner.. I am wondering if it got "locked" somehow?  
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: is it possible to put a level lock on a cexit, in mush
T3/r4/2011-09-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: so i think that "being a beta tester" plugin was what was giving me problems
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does anyone know how to set up adblock plus for mozilla so own3d.tv won't show those horrid ads?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i have never seen an ad that makes me hate a movie quite as much as the commercials for what's your number
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: any ideas?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: if i see this ad again i may commit a homicide
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: greasemonkey and a userscript for that site?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi guys i need some adviseee
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Like usual? If so, dump him and move on.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: this time is techhh question
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: my PC was open liked 12 hour,so i turn it off last night until just now, when i turn it back on AGAIN,my compueter *bang*. The power supply burst with a flash with some burst smell.i am affraid will it take cause something,fried?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it's called a short circuit :P
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hmm..
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: do it will affect my other component?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i dun have extra power supply to replaced.until tomorrow 
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Depends on the extent of the damage. Is there a large black smear across the wall plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: nope..like a short circuit bang with smelly smell.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: your power supplied failed, you probably didn't do anything wrong. Other components could be destroyed, depends on the motherboard/PSU. Only one way to find out
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Laptop or desktop?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: destop
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I wouldn't use it until you get that replaced.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: darn it,if the motherboard was fried.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: could it affect the motherboard?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Are you on that computer right now, or a different one?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i am using my laptop now..
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, wasn't sure if the power supply was still working enough to allow you to use it
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: yaa..until i get the thing replaced
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It can have affected the motherboard, yes -- where did it flash from? The surge box, or what?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: my question is..do it will affect other component like motherboard or harddisk?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: the psu box
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: the powersupply box itself
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: and the smell too
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: everything is possible :) only one way to find that out :P
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean the 'powersupply box'?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: the PSU box.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: daRN!if my motherboard was fried!
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You risk alot of damage if it happened inside the processor unit
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: just get a new PSU and you'll see what other things are gone, if any
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: An un-directed electrical current inside your computer can have fried alot of things.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i am affraid to see that pumpkin
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: oh myy..what a day
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: God bless!
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Short and simple, buy a new power supply, and see if the computer still works.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: cheese,any other optional
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Without knowing what's been affected, no.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: no others choice so..
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina sniffs sadly.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I wouldn't fret about it yet, it could end up being virtually unharmed.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hopefully ! cheez
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: note
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: anyone who got a clue about the tailored mush client package for aard?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: you need to be more specific
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: a clue pertaining to what?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: got a question about capturing output from a command and send it to a specific window
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: the campaign info/check command...
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You'd have to modify the plugin for it, iirc
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: so there is no way to open a specific window from the client itself to send text into
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: I can send to notepad.. but thats not useful to me
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you try to construct auto campaign plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: not directly, no
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: no, I don't want to automate it
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: I just want to have the mobs visible at all times w/o having to check manually
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: got a memory like a leaking ship...
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean something like [target] by added by plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: hmm, gotta check the plugin thingy, looks like something I could tweak
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: thanks for the pointer
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: simple scan trigger combined with a list of targets works fine
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: np
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check score window, just tu see list of monsters
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean score info plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or that Health/Mana/Moves/TNL window
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: thats what I was looking for :)
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I am not sure if you can open new window, but you can always add content to existing
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: you can add new windows, but making miniwindows is a hassle and a half, imo
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, it would be nice to have 'campaign window'
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: bast has a plugin for it
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: left click could take person to specific area
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have a Cp list plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that also lists your gqs as well
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you said I should look for 'bast' plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or mine
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: finger winklewinkle or finger bast
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for our web addresses
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thank you, will check in free time :)
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: in aardmush, is it possible to add level locks to cexits in addition to those on regular exits?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was goign to post CHime's request as a request on your web Feindish
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are we sure it doesn't already work?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it'd be nice to be able to edit cexits jsut like normal exits.. remove just one, lock them.. and maybe even edit one after youv'e defined it
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm not up to date.. so i can't confirm
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: perhaps that wouldn't be too difficult
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but should be filed appropriately
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: want me to log a request?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: please
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tech added
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hey, when did debate turn into tech?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sybacco Tech: okay techies. i have a question
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: so ask it :P
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have a statement!
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sybacco Tech: i was trying to customize my main prompt with fun extras and i sent ti to the mud but the whole line has vanished. my bprompt is fine. any ideas on how to get the main 1 back?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: help prompt for resetting
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or jsut type prompt
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sybacco Tech: i did reset it but its still blank
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 2nd option then
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud how do you remove a specific name from a string list, and get a count of how many items are left in the list
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nm figured them out
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a stat reporter for mush --- stats -> channel
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: possible one that shows how far from max they are as well :)
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is there a way to set up an rss reader to get the headlines from the onion ?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes. google reader should handle it easily enough
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: cool lemme install the reader
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's a web site
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: are gmcp vars returned as strings or ints?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: noone?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok its a string, but is there a way to convert "100" to 100 in lua?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tonumber
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: tonumber
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: appreciate it
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: as do I.   not knowing that existed, i'd been adding 0 to a string to force it to a number
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: hrmm..  213*:     missingwis = tonumber(maxwis) - tonumber(wis)
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anything I need to require to allow that function to work?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what's the error, it probably has nothing to do with the function.  One of the values is probably nil
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wish they'd fix css implementation so that vertical-align worked properly on divs of fixed height
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok, bast you're right .. im going to go figure it all out thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so to overcome a hacked building tool that looks for patterns, you can write a program to strip comments, mix around instruction set assignment, rename variable's and functions, and turn off argument checking in source code files for kernels and linkers and compiler's, and then it would be impossible for them to watch for that unless they have all text editor's or system calls rigged to know when a source file is being manipulated, so you can rename the directory tree's and concatenate file's to mess up that prediction too
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: not too difficult is it
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: microcode hacks and hardware hacks are more difficult
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: hey!!! who let you off the music channel
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Sorry, Norton, that was me.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: shouldn't you be out preaching the warlock's are coming?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or are you two of them
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i agree with you, execution squads need to be focused on the real problems
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: this kernel can be salvaged though
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you agree with...whom?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: whoever hates you
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nobody hates me
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charlee Sheen wuv Ol' Dirty Fiendish. Aww, how coot.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: shit, you just met your first fan then
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: alright. just please stop ranting if someone asks a question :)
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: until then carry on
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: Anyone know how PHPBB keeps track of which topics a user has read?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmm.  In Lua, how would I sort a table by its value rather than key?  Is it possible?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "sort"
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm sure it's possible, i just don't know how off hand.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it must be possible, though you might need to code a function for it yourself
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Sort as in sort numerically (in my case).  What I'm actually going to be doing is a points database in Lua.  I guess it's (once again) a table within a table.  The main table would be 'points' and players would be the next key, and their point value would be the final value.  That way, I'd be able to do print(points["Etzli"]) to see that I have 5 points.  However, I want to be able to sort those points from highest to lowest.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is a table.sort function
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, I'm just not sure it'd work with this case, though I'll try it.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: show the table structure you want to use
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It would be points = {"Etzli" = 1, "Fiendish" = 4, "Another" = 2}
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you want to sort those by the number of points each person has?
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That way, it'd return Fiendish with 4, Another with 2, Etzli with 1. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Rather, return it in that order.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't sort with that structure. you need to do points = {{"Etzli", 1}, {"Fiendish", 4}, {"Another",2}}
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Okay.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, you could sort it, but you'd need to write your own function for it
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: At that point, table.sort(points) returns attempt to compare two tables.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need to add your own comparator function
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ah.  Hmmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Even with your own function, you can't sort the first form
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can...
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not without altering the structure entirely
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: loop through, find the highest value, insert into your sorted table, repeat
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can do better than selection sort, come on :P
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that would completely change the structure. Etzli has it keyed by strings
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your result would look entirely unlike what he started with
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why I suggested the second form
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli will work on it some to see what he can come up with.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only way to guarantee ordering is to use numerically indexed data blocks and the ipairs function. there's a reason why pairs result order is unreliable by spec.
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in your original table, points["Etzli"] does not have a guaranteed location
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Etzli is just a hash key
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is neither before nor after any other hash key
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why you can't use ipairs on non-numeric indices
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and why pairs results are implementation dependent
T3/r4/2011-09-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Okay, got my table.sort for the associative array.  Now my question is, how would I add to the array?  As a reminder, it would be points = {{"Etzli", 1}, {"Fiendish", 4}, {"Another", 2}} -- I'm wanting to add an additional element.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (Again, all in Lua.)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Might have figured it out... Hmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to use the mapper with aard client? how can i enter commands like mapper find
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: typ mapper find
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: type mapper find
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 'mapper find xxx' works, as does 'mapper area xxx' and 'mapper goto ###'
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try 'mapper find academy'
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: mapper help works
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it worked
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, so when you type mapper find by itself, the mapper has no info, and passes it along to the mud - you need to find <something> not nothing
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: when i do mapper goto <room number> i get runtime error
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What error
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: brb.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Function/Sub: map_goto called by alias
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Function/Sub: map_goto called by alias
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Reason: processing alias ""
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Function/Sub: map_goto called by alias
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Reason: processing alias ""
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ...ers\tanel.tammik\Documents\MUSHclient\lua\aardmapper.lua:1305: attempt to index a nil value
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First up, when was the last time you updated?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: never :) how do i do that?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: shall i just overwrite the files?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First, go here - http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Read the spiel on updating, decide whether you want to be bothered - if you just fresh install, you lose aliases, triggers, and maps
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: then, go here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And get the new client - if it is the bug I remember, it was fixed ~3 months ago
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: That's a lot of things to do lol
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lots = 2.5 :-P
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx. i'll give it a try 
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No worries - you should probably bookmark those pages, the updates are usually very useful
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thank you guys again. works like a charm
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: np
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is mush scripting complicated
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is Lua, so not really
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: hmmm. Am I crazy? Are my plugins crazy?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I had TWO demon school students to kill for my campaign.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And after killing one, both got out.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Different vnums?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, but why did I kill one and got credit for both?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bad plugins, I suppose.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh...idk then
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to make a multiline trigger in much?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: With a stateful script?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: don't know what that is? just want to get the qmob, room and area
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: multiline regex
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Get bast's one, it's really good - finger bast for the url
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to use mapper command in trigger_
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Send to execute
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsection_id=1
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which part from there is should read?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 100%
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are basically asking for a course on MUSHclient - that is it
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, it seams like a board or something?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Quite honestly I would just use the premade plugins while you learn - like Bast's
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i also have plugins if you finger winklewinkle... mine might be easier to learn from as theya re standalone
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Another reason I won't go with Verizon: Verizon Wireless just implemented a set of "network optimization" measures that were first announced a few months back. The long and short of it is this: if youre in the top 5% of the cell carriers bandwidth hogs, you can expect to have your connection throttled. Meanwhile, Sprint is planning to sell the iPhone 5 and offer unlimited data.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But unlimited != unlimited.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: With Sprint, it is.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what does it take to be in the top 5%?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have a bandwidth throttle after 300MB, for instance.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: At least, for me, anyway.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Doesn't bother me but it's a difference in speed.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Downloading a LOT of stuff.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Right now, I'm on 24GB usage from Sprint.  No throttle.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: same for me Etzli :)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Ebullient Etzli, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: right around that area
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sounds good.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Now let's just hope they don't notice that I'm using my cell phone as a wi-fi hotspot without paying the $30 extra. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If they didn't expect that, some staff should be fired...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: I need a 2D game engine with decent API support, any ideas?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_game_engines
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: Ive been there, nothing seems appealing though.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: please dont recommend game maker.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Never used an API - what kind of game are you building?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: game maker!
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: I cant exactly tell you that yet. (havent figured it out yet)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: what do you know about valve's source engine?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is it free for use?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think that's 3d though?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: it is a 3D engine though there a ways around that issue.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyways - I'd decide on a game to make before chosing an engine, one can influcence the other for sure!
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's like picking your tool before you know what you are building :P
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not game maker?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: why use a 3d engine to make 2d?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: and why not build your own engine when you know the specs?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: I disagree, I know the gameplay will be 2-Dimensional (if that makes sense) and i dont know what engine ill be using. Before i design the gameplay i need to pick an engine.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think design comes first before engine.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But that's just my opinion.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I share that opinion Trurien :)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: since when is trurien on this channel? Cool.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: well, the engine you choose kind of depends on your design, too.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: if you're talking design from a code perspective. if it's game design, then you need to have that out of the way before you go hunting for engines or anything else.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: its a symbiotic relasionship!
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice at Sorressean, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Definitely, code details need to be designed with an engine in mind, but you should probably figure out what you want to do first.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: i understand the benefits of coding an engine or game from scratch but i just dont posses the knowledge to do so.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Still, if you already know what you want, that should go some way to deciding your engine.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If you don't, you should probably figure out how the game is going to work first.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Engine != everything nice and ready. Engines just provide frameworks, you have to do most of the dirty work...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: fine, ill refine my idea. BTW anyone ever read flatland: a romance of dimensions? :)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, boring.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: all geeks should have read that
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Edwin Abbott was a terrible writer
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: if you say so.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sorressean agrees with fiendish.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: seriously? I hope you didnt just search flatland and form an opinion for no reason other than to pee me off.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: are you pissed off now?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: no, I agree... not a good writer.  Interesting ideas, but not well written.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you're pissed off because someone else read a book and didn't like it, go soak your head in cold water
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: I also find it odd that he has the same middle and last name....
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: no middle name would be less odd
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: is it legal to say pissed off in front of channel police?:)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Depends. The Channel police might get pissed off.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: when I first started playing they said you couldnt use words they wont play on ABC/CBS/NBC
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but lately that has opened up so much more lol
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: IDEA: flatland as a game? You play aardwolf so does this idea seem entising to you?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: thats a no...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: would flatland be a good idea for a game?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You mean a game adpation of the book?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That would be... different, I'll admit.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: awesome...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: question about the mapper. how can i tech it to go through portals when using goto
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how can i teach it
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what does mapper help say?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: help talks about hand held portals
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you mean room portals?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah, use cexits 
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: custom exits handle everything between two identified rooms
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: portals are for getting to a destination where the origin is undetermined
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx, i'll try
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: technically not any real difference between them, except that portals have a "from" field of *
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it works :)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you need to stack commands (useful for opening doors) you can use ;;
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what if my hand held portal is in the bag? 
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can either construct a sequence of commands split with ;; or you can make aliases that do the same
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: going to the aardwolf hotel and typing "mapper portal get amulet bag;;wear amulet;;enter;;remove amulet;;put amulet bag;;dual dagger" will work to get your amulet from your bag, wear, enter, remove, and rewield
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: assuming you use a dagger
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i just can't belive i did not start using mush like 2 years ago
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or you can do "mapper portal aardamuletalias" where aardamuletalias is a client alias you set up
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 2 years ago wouldn't have helped you ^^
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how old this aardclient is?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: less than 2 years
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe one year?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can track the development here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: BIG LOL mush license
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: who likes south african political satire!
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so I b
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so I b
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: ?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: google ZA news
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: never mind dont
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: Ive been meaning to ask, what do you know about a certain intel Xeon range of processors?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone ever used JScreenFix?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: nope
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: ever compile a batch file into and exe?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: into a executible, sorry.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: this channel has gone dark...much like the villains from 24.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this channel has gone muslim, much like the villains from 24?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: you get me stumped with your questions :)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope, that doesn't make sense
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: what do you wonder about that certain range of xeon-cpus?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: and what range would that be?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: this channel is LEGEND, wait for it...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: and do you mean wrap a batchfile within an exe-file? elaborate please...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: im not sure what an intel xeon cpu is, could someone elaborate?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: yes maple, thats what i meant.:)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Marple?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maple bonks Ol' Dirty Fiendish on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: Im very sensitive about me name... 
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: anyways...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: Xeon?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: no its not a xenomorth.:)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: (from aliens the movie)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: google stoner dog:)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: here it is, a intel sticker that reads as follow: intel Xeon inside. Powerful. Intelligint. (can anybody provide additional details)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: bad grammer
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: howcome mapper doesn't find path to underground seal in ft1? because it's maze?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: rorshachs journal, 21st december, 2011. The tech channel is like a gutter, and this gutter is full of blood, and when the drains finaly scab over, all THE VERMIN will drown.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it doesn't automatically link through non-standard exits or mobprogs. you have to add those links yourself with cexits
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: ...the accumulated filth of all thier sex and murder will foam up above thier wastes.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not really the right channel for this
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: ...and all the whore and politicians will look up and shout: "save us!"
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Oddguy, please not on tech
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: ...and ill look down and whisper, "no".
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: ok im done
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is a quotes channel
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oddguy Tech: oh...bye.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have/know of a mushclient plugin that windows all the mobs in the cur room
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: would update on kill etc
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to solve the mapper issue in ranger heaven? it can't find the path 
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "the issue"
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well in the beginning there is a maze like area... you only have to north several times to get trough
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is there?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not seeing any maze thing at the beginning of ranger heaven
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's because there isn't one :P
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, not maze lake. no room desc except You see nothing but darkness...
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: one room like that
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like you need a light and night vision
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not the mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: wear a light :P
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: nightvision helped
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: light doesn't help there
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: drop a ball light
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: carrying extra balls of light does not light up a room, but dropping the ball(s) of light does -- an anomaly
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: in some muds, there are balls of darkness that when carried in inventory or dropped cause a room to become dark(er)
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that'd be cool
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I'd support
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you'd have light wars where you have to carry 100 lights and 100 darks to see and block your enemy from seeing
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or wait, maybe that wouldn't work
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nightvision ftw
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: get light bag, kill <target>, put light bag
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like getting stabbed during a flash of lightning
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: really bright lights, blind you if you have nighvision on :P
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: nightvision is an extra assist, the pupils adjust rapidly so that bright lights are np
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: if I disable the background picture in aardmush, will my mainwindow text stop disappearing randomly?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone in ohio looking for tech work?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: room.info.zone - that pulls area name correct?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: area's keyword
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: trying to figure out to pull current area
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so Aardwolf Estates 2000's room.info.zone is manor3
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: does anyone know how to recolor the border window for the gmcp mapper? i can't find the code for it in the aard_GMCP_mapper.xml.
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: room.info.area failed -room.info.zone worked
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is it like area.info.name?
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's no such thing
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok wasnt sure
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: help gmcp
T3/r4/2011-09-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: if I do mapper delete cexits, it deletes the cexit, but doesn't remove the cexit lock, will that cause any problems?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hipster Kittenbane Tech: is there a way to make links clickable in zmud?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how come mapper can't find path to A Turn in the Hallway in elemental chaos while i have made all nessesary cexits? 
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how come mapper can't find path to A Turn in the Hallway in elemental chaos while i have made all nessesary cexits? 
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: from beginning of the area?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you can try to reset area and start from beginning
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: from beginng yes
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is there a lua for mushclient beginners tutorial?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Look up any lua tutorial.  It's the same.  MUSH just has some of its own libraries/modules.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: that just what i'm looking for. lua has detailed manual and it's not do different from other scripting launguages. what should i read to start writing some mushclient scripts? 
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mush client forum and lua section
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: forexample how to make a pregmatch trigger in lue?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: does anyone know how/where to change the mini-win border coloe of the gmcp mapper?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: color
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: someone says something - but the chat window displays thier name
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats convenient
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enghol Tech: yeah I've noticed... how does that work?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its pulling via gmcp i think
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: apparently it trumps the mud output
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and who was it that had the bag sorter?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Madcatz
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well shit, cant finger madcatz
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a link
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: is the command broken when using myrank 1 or do I have a plugin eating the output? 
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: only see the headline of the command
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enghol Tech: same here...
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's a bug, it's been like that for two weeks
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Whole command is borked, unfortunately
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: ok, just wanted to be sure :)
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm surprised people still haven't heard about it yet :P
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nah, the whole command isn't borked
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: only part that isn't working is myrank #
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try myrank all, and check the values :-P
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: cool output on that one Vakieh
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Except it's wrong
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Information is in wrong columns.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: For instance, I do NOT have 2421 campaigns completed. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's rank positions, etzli :P
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's rank, not total
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: correspons to your rank, not the actual nr of cp's :)
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: same as myrank always was
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I knew that... 
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Ebullient Etzli has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: does anyone know how/where to change the mini-win border color of the gmcp mapper?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: though the headers are wrong
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: My daily for levels should be overall.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Does anyone know how to change the colours on a status line in a split screen? I set one hardstatus, but can't seem to affect this other one...
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, overall should be first, and the others all shifted right
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i've already re[ported it
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Guess we'll have to wait for the second coming of Lasher then
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sommeil Tech: how come some zones the mapper has trouble handling, is it the way it's coded, it doesn't look like a maze... (kobaloi)
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there any way to use less with colour? The ANSI colour codes don't show up... or maybe it was grep.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, it's less. Colour goes through until I pipe it into less.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: how would you make the mushclient play a sound when you may quest?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: use trigger and choose a sound file
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: with the Aard mushclient, is there a mapper command to display or edit different zones, without having to be in them?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: does anyone know how/where to change the mini-win border color of the gmcp mapper? i can't find it in the gcmp mapper.xml i've got all my other window borders change except for this one.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hmm, I wonder I could apply the blacked-out worldmap effect you see in older console RPGs/sims to the aardwolf minimap...
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: how do you let a trigger send a message on a channel and what must it be sent to?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I believe you aren't allowed to do that
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: You could do it on a private channel like friend or spouse I'm sure.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: But all you have to do is put the channel name before the output of the trigger.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: exactly
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: so send to output?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: does anyone know how/where to change the mini-win border color of the gmcp mapper? i can't find it in the gcmp mapper.xml i've got all my other window borders change except for this one.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: have you used CTRL-F to find the word border in that file?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: yes, thats how i found the border for the other windoes. some of them are in hex code while the others are "dimgray" type code. neither work
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: then I suppose there's no border color to change...
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: also tried ctrl+f for border, colour,and color. it didn't have one in there.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_BREAKING_LIGHT_SPEED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hooft Tech: Holy shit.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: merde
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah - take that, Einstein
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hooft Tech: Cocky bastard, he was so sure of that too.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Is there some detailed help about mapper portal some where?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: mapper help?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What do you want to know about it?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: click the ? on mapper?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: That isn't detailed help. I am trying to figure out if it can program it to pull the correct portal out of my bag and use it. Or am I missing the point of it?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You are missing the point of it.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Then do tell me the point. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can make an alias that does that and then call that alias from the mapper.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So for instance make an alias getportal *, then mapper portal getportal <keyword or objectid> in the room that the portal lands to add that portal to the mapper.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't just stack the commands in the actual mapper portal anymore?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can do that too, but why do repeats of all the commands?  Plus if you change your portal bag you have go back and change each of those commands.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That make sense Absolute?
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: I think so, Ill need to play around with it some more.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Okies, ask away here if you have any questions :)
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: So I just need to have mapper portal call my local alias in the mushclient of stack commands to get the portal. Tell mapper portal the keyword of my local alias to execute. 
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap, I mean you could have mapper portal do it by stacking all the commands (i.e. get portal bag, wear portal, enter) but that has limitations.  better to have a helper alias IMHO.
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: I think it makes sense now. Ill ask again if I fail it up. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Is there a way to stop the Aard MUSHclient being all-elbows and turning tags back on when you log in through it?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disable any tag-using plugins
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: That's it, though, I don't think I'm using any...
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what tags?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: channels, mainly. Nothing else is a pain in the ass when you switch to blowtorch
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the chat window plugin uses those tags
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes it does
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gets chat info from gmcp
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, what do you think, was einstein wrong?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: go look for the line telopts in the chat plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it turns the tags on
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Ranrr.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm referring to the recent experiment in cern.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dire Wolfe Tech: Well, the comm log window works without the channel tags on...
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's all over the news, at least here.....
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So ... what was it about?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They made a neutrino particle go faster than light
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr neutrinoes dont go faster than light through extremely dense water jackets
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interesting kuro, looks like fiendish forgot to remove some ancient cruft. There are no tags-based triggers, the tags aren't used by the plugin at all, everything is an untagged trig for things like info or received from gmcp
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, but it turns them on
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be able to just comment out the "TelnetOptionOff(TELOPT_QUIET)" line to get that plugin to stop turning tags on
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that spellup plugins, automap plugins, etc still need tags to work
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Wish I could Aard offline, during the days where I'm not on my WiFi. -sigh-
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can host a MUD on your own computer and play by yourself :P
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: True, true. I wouldn't know the first place to start though.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just download and double-click :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Would there be any recommendations? :)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: envy 2.2 would probably be the best start today
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Envy 2.2 - Thanks Abe. 
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why would one want to play mud offline ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless area constructor ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get envy from ftp://smaug.org/pub/mud/diku/merc/envy/...there are folders in there for an already-compiled windows, or can grab source and make your own which would let you mod it...go up directories for other distributions, tons of them are in the repository :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Thank you, Abe. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that when you see "mac" directories, they're talking about ancient Mac, pre-OSX...for OSX you'd just compile as unix
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Ah. This computer (unfortunately) has Windows. I'm more of a Linux person. >_>
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can always virtualize linux
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, one handy reason to run it locally is to look at the stock areas in god mode, with goto and the stat functions to figure out where that key is }:>
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll run fine on windows
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, you mean, that Aard uses the same areas ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the stock ones that we haven't replaced yet, yes
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: \*haven't replaced yet*, how many are there stock areas in Aard ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help stock areas :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there area 5 stock areas, still, some replacements have the same room placement
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, it seems not much gain to use original Diku 
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you wouldn't use diku, you'd use the newer derivatives, which is why I suggested envy
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: merc really popularized diku derivatives, rom was an offshoot of merc, then 2 of the merc guys made envy as successor
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Abe, didn't you say one was already compiled for Windows?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Can you point which one it is? I'm pretty sure I have it, but I'm having an issue.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the one in the windows folder of the url I gave
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: E22sW32, then. I figured.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember that, even though it's one of the newer codebases, it's still ancient by today's standards, so it'll probably want to be in a compatibility mode (i.e. by its name, you know it's not 64-bit, etc)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in LPMuds there was LPC language, which allowed to dynamically modify MUD code (because MUD was interpreted by LPC interpreter), was this feature introduced to Envy (I mean Aard seems to use similar mechanism)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's mechanism isn't really simiar, and no, lpc was not incorporated into envy
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although istr lasher mentioning recently that he compiled lpc support into aard temporarily as an experiment before going with lua
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: lua or lpc it is pretty much the same idea, though in LPC you could create object (for instance wand) and add some triggers to it
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: here, in Aard some custom action are available only in specific rooms or with specific mobs
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagree that it was the same idea...the MUD code is not in lua, it is not interpreted
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean you cannot take special object with yourself and do its special actions anywhere
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Still issues, apparently.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: (envy.exe 1000) forkee heap_init: unable to allocate heap, win32 error 487 cygwin: terminating fork_helper: child died before initialization with win32 error 1 AREA.LST: No such file or directory
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, in Merc you needed to recompile and reboot (cold) mud, here in Aard there are also warm reboots (so it seems to me) that can introduce new features
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll need the area folder
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: warm reboot is still a full reboot
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I have the area folder, I'm just missing the LST file.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charlee Sheen frowns.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lst file is just a list of areas you want loaded
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could hotboot in merc as well
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all hotboot/ice age is is socket copyover
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has nothing to do with lua or anything else interpreted
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you run second instance and just switch sockets from one process to another ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think lua progs are compiled at boot
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you run an arbitrator on the connection
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Abe, copied the area.LST file from \area to \src - now missing a help file somewhere.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sheen, start the MUD from the area folder
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and by arbitrator you mean? additional layer that communicates with mud driver ? so user connects to arbitrator and arbitrator is in-betweend user and mud ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Ahh.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Thanks, Abe. Rofl.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, ice age "parks" your connection, quits the aard server, boots up the aard server new, then hands the connections off
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Technically speaking, how are the file descriptors/sockets passed around?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: They're even numbered differently between processes!
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is there a system call or something for that?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: by dup probably
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: how the diku patches did the same concept, they basically kept the process structure in the kernel, removed all the data from the RAM and reloaded the executable under the same process
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there has been copyover code available for MUDs forever...http://www.andreasen.org/snip.shtml
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Made a batch file containing "command.com" in area. That should make it easier.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: because sockets are effectively kernel resources
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just a simple fork exec hands over all socket connections
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it writes a table of player/descriptor pairs
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway warm reboot is very nice idea
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Huh, that's strange. Command prompt doesn't like spaces in usernames.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, means I don't need to turn on autologin :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: except for when there is a crash, then....
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or a non-hotboot...some things still require those
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Theoretically it should be possible to add a sigsegv handler that does a copyover, I believe... Risky, though.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be a very stupid thing to do
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: better to have a watchdog that restarts
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Got it working, thanks Abe. <3
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: been trying on google for hours, is there a mxp color name table that also has corresponding xterm color code? found one that has closest name sub on vim's wikia
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How can this happen... I've misplaced my soldering iron.... my apartement isn't that big. Sigh!
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use metal detector
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: check under your bathroom sink, that's where mine always ends up. lol
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, there are so few metal items in my apartement...
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hmm.. I wonder what you were using it for in your bathroom?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can clean iron in bathroom
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: i wonder that myself alot of the time.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Hmm.. maybe it's time to buy a new one. 
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: I am often at the aard hotel which is a no portal room. Is there a way for me to pull the mapper's current room ID so I can detect if I am at the aard hotel and make sure I go down before using a portal? I would only want this to happen for that specific room. Is there a variable I can reference?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can do it with gmcp, but it can only be done via script, not alias or trigger
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how can I open quest window in bast plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible to somehow get the room's mapper id and use it in the trigger? like if i
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if i'm in the aardhotel then before portaling out i must go down
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: gnome vs. kde, who likes what?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: kde for me, just because of familiarity
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: gnome is more light-weighted IIRC
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i cant use gnome 3 in virtual box or vmware player/server
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually I use icewm
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: icevm supports it?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: why mapper can't find path to gathering horde?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is window manager
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: very simple
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fluxbox is my fav
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i haven't used linux desktop in 4-5 years, bash over ssh has all i need
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: im gonna try vm workstation
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i use vm fusion at work because we use imacs
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how can i detect room id in trigger with mushclient? is it possible?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to reaload the myscript file incase i had a parse error
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i keep getting this: Scripting is not active yet, or script file had a parse error.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Reload your script file.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how_
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's under the Game menu.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or Shift-Ctrl-R
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible to use user function as a AddAlias return value_
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Old man Joshu Tech: Hmm, dtrack doesn't track Balor Spittle.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's because it isn't a skill that inflicts damage, it just takes a percentage of hp from the target
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deeply Loved Tech: can anyone recommend a good, free, firewall?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Comodo.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deeply Loved Tech: it works well? shows all connection attempts?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: hw or sw ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deeply Loved Tech: sw
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It does show all connection attempts.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deeply Loved Tech: and its free?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You asked for free.  I wouldn't have told you a paid version if you're asking for free...
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deeply Loved Tech: thank you so much
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli is quite capable of reading. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to get rooms uid in lua script?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming you're using mush, http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: do i have to download and install it or is it included with aard mushclient allready?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is included with the aard mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: may i have some more help with this gmcp. i can't figure it out. 
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how do i use gmcpval ?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is there a gmcp tutorial somewhere?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: on the wiki
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a few of them yes
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i do not underestand the examples on the wiki
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it won't get any better elsewhere
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i could use a simple tutorial how to get rooms uid into a variable via lua script
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jedhi, open up some of the simpler plugins which use GMCP in a text editor
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: which one?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try my autorecall plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know a website where if you type in a url it will show you what the website looks like at different screen resolutions?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: is there a way to call an alias or macro inside of another alias?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: in mushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: send it to execute
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i pulled a jquery code for facebook feeds from a website, and i was wondering if someone could help me mod it to only pull feeds posted by the person and not stuff posted on the wall by other people
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sounds like you need to identify the userid...
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i can get anything i need, i just cant read/code jquery never learned now its biting me in the butt
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nevr learned either... will have to do so at some point
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: Anyone know how I can find the passphrase for my network (trying to set up a wireless printer on a WAP2 network) from my computer?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what os?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: xp
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: is it possible?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know how to do it in windows 7... :P
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: how do you do it there? lol
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: tried checking the router config? often it's listed there...
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: eh where is that?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: open command prompt, type ipconfig, note the ip where it says default gateway...then go to that ip in your browser
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: mmmm just as is? with the periods? it says it couldnt connect
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: 192.168.0.1 usually default for most routers
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, here's what i was looking for - http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/wireless_key.html
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: download that (link's way at the bottom) and run it, it'll list all wireless keys saved on your system
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: its blank :/ ill just take it into the people on monday
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: thanks myrkul and frosty :)
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you sure your network is password protected then? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: lol ya its a huge pain in the ass
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: its a school network
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, well talk to your school's it department then :P
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: ya i have to wait till monday :( sad face
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kesha Tech: sorry for the trouble
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zolariz Tech: how do you make a hotkey for MUSHClient
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alias, macro, trigger?
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zolariz Tech: trigger
T3/r4/2011-09-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biznitch Isabelle Tech: anyone have a zmud autopracticer? free or forsale?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biznitch Isabelle's bot program is activated by L33tM4st3r Lashan and she rolls over on demand.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is a good pdf page splitter program?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: gs should be able to do whatever you need
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: GS?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know of a free pdf page splitter for win7?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: try pdfsam?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: open source solutions for the win
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to clear bast's cp mob list, if the cp has been completed but the last mob got left on the list?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reinstall the plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: well, restarting mush is sufficient.  was looking for something less 'hacky' then 'restart/reinstall'.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tyebald: I mean press the reinstall button in the plugins window after you click on either events or cp miniwin.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: how long would it take me to use up 1 gb from a tethered modem if all i do is mud and use the facebox?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: android?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: no? just a blackberry to a mac
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: mac using bluetooth to access bb's internet
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you can monitor that on mac - ill have to find the app
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: ahh found it activity monitor
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: can you create subs in mush -- replacing displayed text?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeyn Tech: ah neat, anyone familiar with aliasing in mushclient have a moment?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably be better off just asking the question
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably several that can answer it
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeyn Tech: fair enough - I'm just trying to alias " to say, but it doesn't seem too keen on taking it. I've tried putting in regex and it didn't seem to like that either.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why not use the mudside alias ' for say?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeyn Tech: because I'm a newb and didn't realize that the mud itself supported aliasing
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, it has a bunch built in - ' is say, : is immtalk, ; is grouptalk, . is gossip...
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ' is a built-in for say, "," for emote, "." for gossip, ";" for gtell, ":" for immtalk
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plus there's the alias command to make your own
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSHclient, it's important to remember that the default matching style is glob, which is anchored by default. You could have done --" *-- as the alias, and "say %1" as the action
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: and most of them are annoying and source of typos, so I aliased them to pat self
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd been used to them for years before coming to Aard, since they're stock :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: interp.c:    { "'",             do_say,         POS_RESTING,     0,  LOG_NORMAL },
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Anyone familiar with Envy 2.2?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Anyone familiar with Envy 2.2?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: No one? :(
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Ran Envy 2.2 on localhost - made a character (sheen) - got it to level two, and used the SAVE command. There's no pfile or anything, and I ended up quitting before I went to work. Went to login to Sheen, but, it was as if he hadn't existed at all. What am I doing wrong?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: wrong? playing in localhost :P
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Well, yeah, but I figured it would save a pfile for me. I still have the prompt up running it on localhost, and I'm wondering why it just doesn't make a pfile like it should.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have a player folder with a-z folders?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I do not, Abe.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Lemme post a log.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're still doing this on windows, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Correct.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Sat Sep 24 08:38:37 2011 :: [*****] BUG: Save_char_obj: fopen Lasher: ../player/l/Lasher: No such file or directory
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're supposed to download the regular envy source, and download the windows executable...you put the windows executable in the extraced folders for the source, so that's where it gets the area folder, player folder, etc
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Well, Lasher is an example. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the error is quite clear, there's no ../player/l folders for it to save Lasher into
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: In such case, couldn't I just create a new folder and name it?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: create a player folder 1 directory up from where you're starting envy.exe
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and create a folder for the letter of the alphabet in that
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you can
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I'm executing Envy from \area - and pointing to the envy EXE, which is in \src.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the player folder would be in the same folder that area and src are in
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Correct. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: It worked. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so now you can feel like Lasher (granted the name was going overboard :P)
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: what is it you need to get mushclient help to work on win7
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the old MS help program
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Easiest way is probably to run as admin
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh, help
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: missed that part
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: running as admin isn't relevant
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it should give you an error message with a link when you try to open it, iirc
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nods, didn't read the message
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: I have done this before just can't remember name of download I need
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: just click the more info box or whatever that comes up
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it'll take you to it
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11248
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just google microsoft .hlp viewer
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moshu Tech: Thanks Abelinc
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type mchelp
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look for MUSHclient_Help.xml in the plugins folder. To access it, type mchelp <topic>
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to add the plugin.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there is a mud capableclient that runs on the psp or ds?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to add a level lock to a custom exit in the mush mapper?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I can see the locks in 'mapper thisroom', but don't know how to edit them.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: what's good / easy software to mount iso files?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Daemon Tools?
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: poweriso
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glocken Tech: id go with daemon
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I use Virtual clone.
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I just use a combo of 7zup and virtual drive mounter
T3/r4/2011-09-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 7zip*
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Is it possible to stop a program from using api hooks in windows 7 ?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Anyone got a link to a more uptodate spellup script for zmud than Yoshiros?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: Nvm, I'm stupid.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: So, I ran Envy, and saving the character had worked just fine, (it wasn't making a folder for the first letter of the name. As in Lasher, would be in the L folder - which didn't exist. And so on.) but now there's another problem with it. How can I fix this?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's Envy?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would depend on what the problem is...
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: fread_char: No match.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: All I did was edit the pfile to make it an IMM.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: And saved it. ^
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should've checked size before saving and after
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you have added a lot of CR or LF
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: CR, LF?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: carriage return, line feed
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: under unix only one of them is used to end line, under windows both
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: What could I do about that? Sorry, I'm a newbie.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: first try to check whether it is this issue
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charlee Sheen shakes his head.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: create player, check file size, modify imm flag in your fav editor, save and check whether there is difference other than from your change
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you could do about that is use a text editor that knows about line endings
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Notepad++ then?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if CR/LF is the problem
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Hey, that's strange.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I just checked the command prompt, which I used to start envy. Checked back to zMUD, and noticed it isn't even connected. It can't reconnect to it. However, ENVY says it's "ready to rock on port 4000"
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try netstat -a -n to see whether port 4000 is in listening state
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if not, then apparently Envy lies
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: It says ESTABLISHED.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, something is connected 
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: True.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how does mush update the map position with gmcp
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it draws room relative to your current room based on the gmcp room num
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I mean what makes it wanna update the position
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: whenever gmcp room info is sent
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so basically it's sent, then stored in a %gmcp.etc var?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, mush handles gmcp different from cmud
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afaik (not really expert on this), gmcp handler interprets incoming gmcp data and 'broadcasts' it, which other plugins can see
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so whenever the broadcast has something to do with room info the mapper runs the update script i guess
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it'd probably be inefficient if the cmud map has different vnums than the mud
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: even if you could set a trig to capture this gmcp msg and update
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no idea how cmud mapper works, don't think you can see the source for that
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cmud is probably faster at computing paths though
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahhh, cmud mapper, from before we had this technical communism
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I for one welcome our MUSHclient overlords
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and fiendish doesn't like the mush mapper either
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, I wouldn't be on here without it, and I'd say more than one feel the same
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mush map is sweet if you haven't already mapped stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think you miss the point
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if one could roll back time, i'd say the mapper find function should never have been added
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: probably, with the crap I'm seeing to do cps and stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: nothing wrong with gui, but global find is kinda botty imo
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and since every newbie has it now, might as well join the bandwagon
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that is sadly true, but should never have had to come to that
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but that's what happens
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it sometimes just makes me want to drop out
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 'why' is a matter of debate
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what's wrong with mapper's global find ?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eliminates need for actual knowledge
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Some people think it enables other people to bot speedwalks and such - I think it makes the game accessible to people who aren't playing to memorize maps
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's wrong with that is, people make it automated
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the same with goal solutions - many clans have goal solutions, also there are solutions avail on internet
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: exploration and mapping is a fundamental part of the mud, if they're not playing for that, then what are they playing for?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: to the point where you have to just click
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: interaction with other people is even more important
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that clearly wasn't part of the plan
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exploration is great, and I love it...once
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and the problem with those solution is, the walkthrough is enough to do the goal
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when it should be more like Inferno, or Gladiators'
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then multi-path goals should be introduced
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if interaction with others was such a pivotal part of the game, one wonders why so much effort has been put into removing it
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: run mud for yourself and play it lonely, then you understand what I mean by user interaction
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though you can play Aard being quiet all the time, I think most people interact with other some way
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's a distinction between interaction and competition
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, maybe I mix those things, still people make mud interesting
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: somewhat deviates from the original brief of disliking the mapper due to skill communism
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though i do understand what you mean, i just don't agree with it
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, I wonder why having over 200 active player in a moment it is hard to start mafia game with 6 persons
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because they're mostly here to mud, not play mafia
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Mafia is a waste of time
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper allows all player to do cps, gq, quests without prior memorizing areas
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i never needed to memorize areas prior to mush mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I find mapper list very useful, especially when given only room names
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: it does?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Heh, I think most people who do CP's and GQ's don't even look at the mapper after a while.. :p
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: learn what sort of mobs are in your range
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: damnit.. i need to learn how to use mapper....
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: figure out the themes of areas
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's not hard to guess what area a mob is in given the mob name and room name
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: doing cps for a while you can say where mob is in the area
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the only reason people think they need to 'memorize' is because they've grown dependant on the mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so mapper gets you to proper area then you can either where / hunt mob or just click on proper room on map
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or you know, run directly to the mob
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are plugins that will take you directly to mob
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather to room in area
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't you think that's a complete elimination of any actual knowledge needed
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: part of the skill of the game used to be devising said scripts yourself
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i used to be fine with some people having really good mappers because they put in effort to map/write the scripts
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but you can't really say the same for anyone who just downloads it
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people used to guard their advantage, now it's been nationalised
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not everyone is programmer
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and that is a problem
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people who were not programmers would concentrate on developing different ways of getting an advantage, like actually being good at the game
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: such as actually learning the areas
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or understanding implicitly how the mechanics works
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can honestly say that 2-3 years ago i could find any given mob within 30seconds based on memory alone
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, I think it is a kind of waste of time
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: now i just use the mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper is very convenient
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why memorize when you can use mapper?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: memory is quicker than looking at a map and responding
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: again, there's a difference between memorize and knowledge
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: also, 4-5 years ago there were more mazes and so on
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: now they're being removed in favour of things which you can run through
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: another blow to the scripting mudder, no more mazes :P
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in other words: game is easier, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: game is dumber, it's not easier
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's no easier to excel
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's harder to develop an advantage
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: It's not dumber, it's more newbie friendly and easily accessible
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean game should be mind-developing?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Really, it's just all been downhill since that 'run' command was put in so people could cheat...
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i dislike removal of mazes
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't like mazes
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because you have no idea how to navigate them :p
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scandalar throws Trachx into the Helegear Sea
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I don't like Helegear
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but with translocate it is quite easy to get to bergs
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, I find runto, spellup commands quite useful
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: especially small mazes, takes a human 3 seconds to navigate and breaks most mappers
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also mapper and plugins helping with cps, gqs, quests
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dak'tai has such maze
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: daktai has no maze
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but breaks mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not anymore
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: forgot of custom exits, right
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ultima used to be an example
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gob fort is a good example of existing maze which is easily navigated
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think the point is that playing games is waste of time
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though without mapper and runto you could see playing as mind developing
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Hmmz, I though your point was that using memory is a waste of time?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scandalar is really confused now.. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't mind runto
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with new features you see that this games is just click-mapper-kill-mob
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I like the Coral Kingdom maze - nothing to memorize beyond the look of the cave/city exits
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no competitive player uses runto :p
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, as T9 your time has ended ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are no more T-s 
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also Nenukon - that sort of memorization I can get behind - memorizing whether the left for use 'Pathway' while the right uses 'Concourse' I feel is a sack of bs
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: for = fork btw
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some mazes are easy if you have hunt and know which mob to hunt
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I only ever use hunt in Xyl and Helegear
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i almost never hunt
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's kinda slow with the lag
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: using map/scan is faster
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you actually know how it works
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Xyl to get through to rubber (before I got the Envelope, that is) and Helegear to Eternal Cold
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, someone has stated that having so many wishes (noweb, noteleport, novorpal) causes monsters to be just cannon fodder
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: one day you will be so equipped that nothing can kill you
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on cmud when you try map a room, that has same name like a room that's already mapped, it teleports you in the other area and continues mapping there
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can this be avoided
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here savvy with cmud mapper ?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: do the tags affect the mapper in mush? 
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gmcp mapper anyway
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: why are all my tells buffered? the same if a was fighting or on a run? maybe i triggered something....
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: you typed cat
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: catchtells
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: help catch
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: do you have catchtells or savetells turned on?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: cast without an s is cat
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanz
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: anyone seen any tt++ scripts around that track gmcp ?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheezburger has some
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cheezburger's website
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: funnily enough I was in his blog but guess it's harder to find game specific thingies :)
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible to get into christmas vaccation using mapper and destination underdark?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: Is there an inventory re-order command, or do I still need to drop bags on the ground and pick them up in reverse order to get the order that I want?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: how about you just give the bags to yourself in the order you want them?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: dunno but can always give instsead of dropping
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nothing is Absolute Tech: That works. Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, amusing
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trindrick Tech: does anyone use the aard_campaign_noter.xml plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: any good place to start looking for plugins?
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: what do you want the plugins to do
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: finger bast
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: he has some :)
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: play the game for me!
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, between what fiendish ships and bast's folder, you've got most things covered
T3/r4/2011-09-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: plugins can play the game for me? o_O?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: does installing plugins make the client less responsive?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: shouldnt?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: anyone familiar with bast spellup?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: sorry im only familiar with aardwolf spellup
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: nah.. no worries..:p i was exploring plugins
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: the built in aardwolf spellup is quite nice
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: true. :) was happy with that. just trying bast for now
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: how to use trigger on MUSHclient? i want to set an alarm when a global quest appears
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to send command to world with mushclient and script? world.send "gt this is a test" doesn't work
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how to print a variable in the string_
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in lua
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know the name of the Aardwolf option, which allows you to see what your client is sending to the MUD?  I Can never recall the name of it?!
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: echocommands
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oooooh thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: I think its echo :?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Help search commands was what I first tried.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How does one chomp the shortest match for a regex in sed?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you can't
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sorry, s/chomp/get/
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm, there's no way eh.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sed regexps are always greedy
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you have to write a better regexp
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or use e.g. perl
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying to write a better regexp.. I mean, it's probably a one-off thing but I'm getting more practice in sed.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: being good at regexps is always a useful skill :)
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So I want to be able to replace [word or sentence] with \textbf{word or sentence} :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: doing latex, huh?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yup Ranrr...
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: you want to loop some command with different variable?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So ... kind of narrowed down the cases for my regexp.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Jedhi I don't want to loop... I want to be able to capture it.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: In one sub.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just ... I don't seem to know how.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thinking aloud.. I have 3 cases. [word], [phrase] and [sentence].
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: do you want to add some arguments after the alias command?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, it's latex, Kedhi.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sorry, Jedhi, finger slipped.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: is there a way to automatically upgrade to the latest MUSH release or do you have to do it manually
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: can you make your alias not case sensitive in mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: you just have to check the box that says ignore case
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a room mob window script for mush. didnt know if mobs in room were passed over gmcp or anything?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: instead of having to look after every kill
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: closest you'll get is roomchars tag
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yup, used that, but didnt like having to "look" after each killa
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is it possible to condense hammer to 1 line like other attacks
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in-client, yes, using gags
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know a good primer on how to convert pdf's into something more legible like texes?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: how do you define more legible? PDSs are very readable
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: PDFs even
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: easier to convert into .txt format?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: do you do know that you will probably lose some of the formatting, etc
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and have you thought about using a search engine?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: because the first search return tells me how to convert, or what application to use
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: pleiades, i dont want a software, i want to learn.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: hmm, like how you scan a document and make algorithms for character recognitionkind of learning?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmn, no. more like i want to learn about the formats and file headers and learn to write a cron script that will convert the pdfs for me
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maple Tech: I would start out by learning more about the pdf format. Can see what you want now though.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i installed winklewinle spellup script. after i uninstalled id i get some wield messages during casting spells: UU
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: affoff and affon
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyway to get rid of them?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: tags spellups off,  would be my guess
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thank you
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to change the com log output destination
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: id love to have it sort by day
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What does it mean when I can ping a FreeNAS server, but SSH access is taking forever to respond?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Should I go to the server and see what's wrong?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Did you try using ssh -D80 <server>?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: flawed dns
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ymerd tried that too... the DNS is fine.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: Are you sure that the dns settings on FreeNas all ok ?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: did the freenas box ever have quich ssh connection?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: quich-quick
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: point being, I've seen sshd get borked and needed a restart to get it back to normal
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 80 or 67 is not working either way.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What's the port samba usually uses?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 901
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'll try that next, waiting for 443 now.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: heh, if you're waiting long enough to have to type that, it's not gonna work :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: just ctrl+z it :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: my big black book of samba says TCP 139 for smbd and nmbd used UDP 137
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, that could be, i just checked my config, i might have changed the port for some reason
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Security, maybe? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Probably have to change the port again then.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: Hate standards mabye?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nah, i don't normally hcange ports unless i have a reason, i just can't remember what my reason could have been.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Gee, it connected on port 139 using telnet.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Now, ... does anyone know Samba commands by heart? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: cli commands?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I guess so.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Heh, i never use CLI when it comes to samba, so i'm no use.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: or config file?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: CLI, Biff.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: what are you looking for to do. there are maybe 15 flags
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: smbd [-D] [-a] -[o] [-d debuglevel] [-l log file] [-p port number] [=-O socket options] [-s configuration file] [-i scope] [-P] [-h]
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, Biff, I mean what would you do if you had command line access to any smbd.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying things like net use, net show, net status to no avail.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: oh what would I (being a hacker) do if I had cli access to an smb server?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've used these on Windows but I'm pretty sure they're windows networking things, not samba.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: i'd uninstall smb, setup an nfs share and say "fixed"
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, what would you, being a hacker, do if you had to access YOUR smb server by CLI only.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: /ignore biff
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: People like you give hackers a bad rep.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: sorry i guess i dont understand what you are trying to do
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tech != irc :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I know, Cheezburger, sometimes it's better.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But only sometimes.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me ask a question more suited to this channel...
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: IRCs are awesome places to put a chatbot to the test :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: i'm sure i could help, just dont understand the question
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: how i remove {chan ch=something} please
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: freeze self 9999999 <password>
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Simple, Biff: server's up, pingable, I can telnet in, I don't know how to proceed.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: tags off or tags channels off I think
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I want to see if it's usable.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien pats Exorcist Jerome on his head.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There, see, a better answer.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: ahhhhh, you want to test if its working, not if you can break it. yeah thats easy
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, not easy enough for me though.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm supposed to try to fix it if it breaks, so.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: i think you could do something like `smbclient -L localhost` though the flag might be wrong
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: i think that will give you a listing of all the shares currently available
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: -L - this option allows you to look at what services are available on a server. You use it as "smbclient -L host", and a list should appear. The -I option an be useful if your NetBUIS names do not match your TCP/IP DNS hostnames or if you are trying to reach a host on another network."
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Would I not want to try smbclient -L hostID then? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: well i assume you are telneted into the servier in question. test if localhost, then test it from a remote box
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, already took off telnet because I didn't know what to do with it.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: sorry bout the typing, long day. "test it localhost"
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No response on telnet.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: yeah you can test it remotely, just might have issues if there is any funny network stuff going on
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me see how I can specify a username...
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: so you have no remote access to this server?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Biff: I have telnet on port 139, but I don't know SMB command line so I can't do anything there.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: SSH on various ports is not working.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I can ping the server, so I know it's up, but I can't mount my drive from across the network.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks for helping, by the way :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not all questions like that are for people who want to break stuff :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: hmmm, yeah port 139 is the SMB Protocol port, telnet to this port wouldnt get you remote access. it would expect a smb client to be connecting to it
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's what I was hoping to do, pretend to be an SMBclient.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I've seen my friends telnet in on port 80 and issue HTTP commands to get webpages before, so I thought that might work.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: at the moment i have a feeling that smb protocol is not a clear text, human readable packet structure
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me just go look up SMB commands and see if there are any...
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Could be, considering it's been a Windows thing for a long time.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: per wikipedia, SMB runs over the Session layer on TCP port 445,  directly or over NetBIOS API on UDP 137-138 and TCP 137 and 139
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: i have a feeling its a binary packet thats being sent, not the same as things like HTTP which is human readable ASCII type packets
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks Biff... not sure what that means though. I will try 445 to see what can be done.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Also, just thought of looking again at dmesg :P
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'll look up return code -112, too.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: looking at M$'s MSDN library of standards docs, it looks like the messages are binary, so using telnet wont work
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, OK.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biff Tech: gotta find some dinner and get back to work. sorry i wasnt much more help
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Trying to log in as guest, but I get "Unable to open secrets database" even without the password.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is it possible to access the contents of a variable in a trigger pattern using Mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: IE if I have a variable that stores a name, can I use the variable in a trigger to make sure that name is part of the string it's searching for?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: For what client?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Mush
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: the aard mush client
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes, but i forgot the exact steps
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if getVariable(name) in <string> then do_this else return end
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in mush, what's GetInfo(304)?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok, according to http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetInfo, it's the current date and time...anyone know what format that's in, then?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mm/dd/yy hh:mm:ss iirc
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charlee Sheen tries to help The Reaper Myrkul, but is too inexperienced.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude comforts Charlee Sheen.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charlee Sheen hugs a vampire.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charlee Sheen hugs (Friend) VampireDude.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Charlee Sheen slaps a vampire.
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, this plugin is subtracting it...will lua subtract dates like that?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd be more inclined to assume it's just an integer...
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Dunno, been too long
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: a real integeror an iamginary one?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how do i make the aard version of mushclient 's mapper show lower or higher flowers?
T3/r4/2011-09-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: floors
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: if I'm doing this in mush, how do I get it to evaluate the division   SetVariable("Tier" , "%2/202/7")
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Remove those quotes.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (around the second parameters, not around "Tier")
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nod gotcha, and then to round down?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: math.floor
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: l
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: tequila.floor
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (would be SetVariable("Tier", math.floor(/202/7))
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: (would be SetVariable("Tier", math.floor(%2/202/7))
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks etzli :) 
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is it safe to use penetrating oil on a combination lock, or will it reduce the life of the lock?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's safe, insofar as if you have to use penetrating oil it's probably not long for this world anyways.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is it hard to change the combination?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: How It's Made makes it seem simpler than it probably is.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dekkath Tech: Heh.. and the puns are great.. that show is so Canadian
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itox Tech: you're best of just using graphite powder
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how do you change the combination with graphite powder?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: is there any setting (ingame) that overrides autosac/autoloot?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: for what?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: autokey, autogold?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: nope, I mean any setting that would make the game ignore my autoloot/autosac setting
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nope - just if you couldnt carry items on corpse
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or if groupie got the kill and did it
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: I have autoloot off, autosac on, and I cannot change this. I mean, it tells me it's changed, but no looting occurs, and the corpse is automatically sacrificed
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: nocens, are some items to heavy?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: no groupie, and the overloading is not the issue (in that case autosac shouldn't occur, if autoloot is on)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it loots then sacs in that order
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: Weight :   189 of 461 Items  :    68 of 146
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: none that I know of
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can't loot or you can't turn off saccing?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: You will no longer automatically sacrifice corpses... You get 12 gold coins from the battered corpse of the lizard.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's gold loot
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: thats auto gold, like i said, yep
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: damn :) it might be that I'm just dumb :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocens Tech: thank you. it was my mistake, I just set everything accordingly and now it works. sorry for the trouble :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do you disable a trigger by default in mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: enabled="n" in xml view
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: open it and uncheck the enable trigger box
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's not 'default' hol :P
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: Anyone an iPad user?  I'm a visually-impaired student, my school is scanning my books as pdfs... I'm already using a laptop to take notes during class but I'm beginning to wonder if I need to consider an iPad to be able to read the texts during class separate from my laptop (I know there's brands other than Apple but I have an entirely Mac household due to my vision needs, so while I'm sure Android is perfectly nice, the question is "iPad or status quo," not 'iPad or Galaxy").
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: well crap, huge wall of text, sorry
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: anyhow, I'm a law student so am required to take a great deal of notes on the laptop, all students have them in class, so it may be difficult to follow a textbook and have a PDF window open at the same time at the font sizes my vision requires... kind of feels like a rock/hard place issue.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there are many apps which will do voice to text conversion, not sure if they read pdfs out loud though
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Have you discussed the issue with your teachers?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's pdf to text functions on xpdf
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: xpdf? Never noticed it. How do you activate it?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i guess some is scanned and not encoded into pdf format, maybe it's more difficult than that, but a pattern matching algorithm might be available
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: yeah, it's not so much an accommodation issue, the scanning of the texts is addressing a second problem (weak spine due to scoliosis, I can't carry all of those casebooks), but I'm hoping that I can solve the visual problems while I'm at it.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: then you can use that to feed to your text to speech and you have a software upgrade
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Onoom Tech: anyone know how to save plugin settings in the aard client? i have to keep disabling them every time i close/reopen
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: yeah, I'm not sure what I'm going to get, if it'll be text-searchable OCR or if it'll be half-arsed bad scans.  I have to assume it'll be the latter.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: best of luck to you though
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: is that something a tablet would be good for?  I've seen a fair number of younger attorneys have tablets at their trial desks so as to rules of evidence/procedure/etc. handy, but not many students using tablets in class yet
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: khair, firstmost, don't the courts get picky about devices that can record audio/video?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i had to shop around a bunch to find a cell phone they'd let me carry in, =) 
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: Some do but licensed attorneys are able to bypass those restrictions (getting a bit technical here but I'm getting a post-graduate degree so I'm eligible to bypass them)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: khair i see... two classes of citizens
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: nah, court officers vs., well, non-court officers.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: I still get screened, takes forever :(
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if i were acting as attorney pro sei, or attorney in fact through an approved process, i'd get real-peeved in that instance =)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: grin, i dont get screend at all, they look at my phone and wand my belt.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i suppose it might be different where you live
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i've seen people scanning documents with phones and linking them to a tablet
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: but in general, as a paranoid person, i would not like a tablet that was visible to passers by or on camera, especially if anything confidential were displayed ... i guess it depends on what you use it for
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: function versus function creep
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: all goes by local court rule - where I am right now, the rules are unevenly applied - when I lived in Los Angeles, court officers' screenings were waived with a state bar card but you were screened extensively without one.  benefit to passing the bar - you can have your phone on site.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: grin, i had my phone on site, i shopped for 3 weeks to find one with no camera
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: some suited individuals looked at me talking on it on a bench outside one of the courtrooms
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i thought... this is like eating cake outside of jenny craig
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ^_^
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: yeah, before I passed the CA bar I had to surrender my phone... had one of those helio oceans, before the iPhone came out ;p.  man, that thing was bulky, but for an early smartphone it was nice.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: khair i don't like machines smarter than i am... so you can imagine the differences in our ' toys'
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: incidentally, to sit for the bar in c.a. do you have to attend an approved curriculum there, or can any (non felon) that lives there sit for it?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: by lives i mean has domicile ^^
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if you are afraid a machine is smarter than you, you're not very smart... 
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr i met a drug addict once who thought that video security cameras could record audio. so he whispered
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr, its easier to be afraid, the less i know
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: California is unique, they have a couple alternative ways to sit for the bar - you can also attend a non-ABA law school or even arrange to study for a number of years in a law office and then sit for the bar, the old English way.  Having said that, the latter two methods have pass rates 20% or lower.  Not a good investment to do either.  There are a number of good public law schools in CA, just attend one of those.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Big Brother is watching you.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: knowledge and training overcome fear and superstition.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sheen, nah theystopped.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: all the time people spend perfecting machines will come back to bite them as their jobs disappear and their contributions are immortalized, very few people will be required in the future to run the new workforce
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: khair as a paranoid, sarcastic youth who in another world might have been quite trucculent, i like to know that there are alternative methods to qualify to sit for the bar.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: being dumber than a machine doesn't mean much when they're judging your iq by the machinists iq, which is composed of labs around the world in all science departments
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: obviously the preparations in a school can teach a lot
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: in my present state, there are very few ways to qualify, aba, or having passed and been licensed in another state are the most popular
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: have to have one of those nice frameable good standing letters =)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: khair, i'm going to send you a tell!
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I know someone has one of those "time till hour double" scripts - what kind of time frame are we looking at
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: 320k = 1.2 days?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i did something really weird to mush :( i don't know what happened but my screen is now split between a small version of mush and a big white part on the left that i can't move or close
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i tried restarting mush and it didn't do anything
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does typing "resetaard" help at all?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do I compile screen with special flags? -nethack, for instance?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: heh nm
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh i dont know there was something about the tool bar :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae looks at you and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trurien, usually (1) add to makefile or (2) run make with the option, or (3) run ./configure with the option
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How do I specify the option in configure?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this should be in the building readme
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks, will look it up.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's usually either --with-optionname or --enable-optionname
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Thanks, Biker. Gotta run.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the command to see the heal rate on a room?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSlayer Zeerus Tech: rstat?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: 100 the highest?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: recon is the skill to do it
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, 100 is the base non-modified
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkSlayer Zeerus Tech: mine is 150/150 atm
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: highest clans and manors can have is 200/200
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is there a secret to opening a jar of pickles?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: By breaking it.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: magic rate increases what exactly
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the secret is don't be a wuss
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and is heal rate just health or also mana/moves
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: all of them
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wrong channel i suppose / sorry
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the two numbers are for hp/moves for the first number, and mana for the second number
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: would it help to heat the glass or to cool it?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heat the metal...
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oh nevermind, it opened
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: VD, just ask for help by someone with muscles
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you know...like a man
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: oh cool it has sees in it
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it sees you eating it
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: 20 calories and 44% sodium per pickle
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how much voltage difference do i need to make a piece of uneaten pickle glow?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: well, voltage itself is a difference. meh
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 10,000 should be enough
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i have some Na2CO3 and i want some NaOH+
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: any ideas?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: http://www.amazon.com/Grade-Sodium-Hydroxide-Micro-Beads/dp/B001EDBEZM
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vost... i can't shop on amazon =(
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you can't shop on amazon?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: why not?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: no money
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hydroxide#Production
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: get a credit card
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vost how?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: or a loan, see your bank manager for either
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: the manager said they only do home equity loans
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: will methyl alcohol degrade normally in nature /atmosphere?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: have you tried googling some of your questions?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i did, but them my browser froze
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: kill the window - reopen browser
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: use the homework channel
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: back when I was a student, we had these crazy things called books where you could find answers to your questions.... do they still exist?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: don't think so
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no, they were burned in the great wars
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i never saw a book that contains the entire environment =(
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i rely heavily on the book by larry and sergey
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: does the s-i cycle work with the radioactive i-2 that decays into oxygen?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pleiades sighs.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: cool.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: is there any reason why those extra heavy atoms that're gonna decay would be less preferrable?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: what do you mean, less preferable?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: definitely, because Jesus cast them out
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Is there a reason that, after updating Mush and importing my mapper database, it's slowing way down when running through continent rooms for the first time since the swap? Everything is intact, yet it seems to be grabbing new data or something.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try toggling maprun
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rascally Ryke shakes his head.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Everything is fine after I've run through the room once..
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Also, I can't remember how I got Bast's miniwindows to be on top of everything else. Messing with the layers doesn't do anything.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hmn
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: damn, the blue smoke came out, now I need to go to the electronics store....
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: ranrr wait. if you say the magic words quickly enough the djinni wont escape
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Blue smoke? I only know green smoke o.O
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: surely you can get blue smoke from anywhere, not just an electronics shop ?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's strange that it is often cheaper to get electronics part by buying asome new thing, stripping out the part you need, and throw away the rest, than to just buy the part you need...
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how is that strange?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: economies of scale?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's not strange, that's dumbass consumerism at its finest
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is there a way to force when a variable is set in mush, that the first letter of the variable is capitalized?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: does this regex match rank 9, and track player, wars, war kills, ^(?:\s+)?\d+\)\s+(\w+)\s+\w+\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+(\d+)\s+(\d+)$
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it doesn't seem to be firing my trigger, so I must be missing something.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: but not familiar enough with regex to see it :(
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: regexps are writeonly
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: not sure what you mean by that.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I think it's the decimal in lvls/death
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is \d only does integers?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ^\s+\d+[)]\s\w+\s+\w+\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+\d+\.\d+\s+\d+\s+\d+$
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or ^\s+\d+\)\s\w+\s+\w+\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+\d+\.\d+\s+\d+\s+\d+$
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should I add a script to a plugin to organize it on mush
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or what's the way to do it
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like they're visually organized in classes in cmud
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I create array on mush, where doesi t go
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here savvy with cmud?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What's up?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I go to a room, the mapper changes position to a room, that's no longer there
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: roomnum is 0
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: zone is deleted
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: check the mapper help for removing zones
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mapper purgezone (zonename)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how would I know the zonename
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mapper areas
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Seems like the key itself still exists in the map database.  Try going to that "room" and viewing the spreadsheet (View-Spreadsheet) and seeing if you can delete the key for that room.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you're thinking mush I think
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: yes, i am, sorry
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Pay attention to what he's asking. ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the zonename is at the bottom of the mapper window for me
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I click on spreadsheet it freeze
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have the roomvnum I think, can't I delete that ?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or room key, I dunno what that number is
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not from the command line, I don't think.  If you can visibily see the room on the map, then try deleting that, sure.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I'm mapping stuff, and a room has same name as another room already mapped in another area
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it teleports me to the other room and thinks the area links to the other area
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't see it :(
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: when that happened to me I purgezone oldzone
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, try the View-Spreadsheet View method.  It'll be the only highlighted key in that list.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it happened cause of the other issue with the same room name
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Myopic, we're not talking about MUSH.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: my bad
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay deleted it from there
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hopefully it won't be a problem any more.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I go to this room it still teleports me somewhere else :(
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Stupid ghost rooms...  Hmmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I've had that problem before myself, so I know what you're going through.  Let me see if I can remember what I did.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I removed the other key too
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: roomnum and vnum are 0
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also is there a way to prevent mapper from jumping areas
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I'm creating new map
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and room has same name as a mapped room
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this crap happens because it takes the mud vnum now
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you're using GMCP (which it should be) then you shouldn't be jumping areas.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and the older mapped room doesn't have the mud vnum
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ah... 
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, I know what you're talking about now.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I tried to re-map the other matching room to have mud vnum
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it ended up the way it's now :P
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: after I deleted all zones that it transported me to
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Honestly, I just redid all the maps, didn't bother with remapping what was already there.  There's a way to do it, though, but I have to remember.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I can't remap it, it creates the room, but then teleports me somewhere else
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have to go out for a few will check if you're around later on
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Let me try to remember, then.  What's your roommode set as (#PRINT {%roommode()})
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's 1 right now, used to be 0
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I changed it to get the vnums
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you keep it at 1, then it should update the vnums if you use #Look in the current room.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it updates and creates the room
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it still teleports me
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mebbe I have a trigger or something
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh ye I'm retarded
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right on this room I have a set location trig
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and apparently when I re-mapped it, it changed the key, naturally :P
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sorry :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there any way to redefine the key combination needed for a certain character using the compose key in Gnome?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try http://userbase.kde.org/ComposeKey#Optional_Tweaking_of_XCompose_Map
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Note numbers persist after reboot, right?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: notes are purged according to a schedule which only takes place at a reboot, numbers are consistent across boots
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So a unique identifier for a note would be board/note number/date, I guess.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I haven't done any archiving to know/care about how many digits before rollover per board
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how can i make lua script to wait 2 seconds before execting another command?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: help bot
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday smiles happily.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not sure Jedhi
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is a wait(#) command in the lua part of mush, which I believe has been included in the latest mapper, if that's what you want it for
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i can't use it in the script. will render error
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can't use what, why?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i dont know. when i write: wait(2) i will get an error
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: attempt to call global 'Wait' (a nil value)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That doesn't mean you can't use it, that means you're using it wrong :-P
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, what can i do to correct it?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You need to import the file containing the wait() function - I have no idea where/how, I don't use lua
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I expect the MUSHclient forums would have the info you want, though
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, what can i do to correct it?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: sorry, mis
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krilcov Tech: Sup.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is there a wildcard in mush that handles decimal numberS?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol.. i realised i hadn't heard any tech babble in weeks.. i had it off for quite a while now
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: can you substitute text in mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: string.gsub()
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: for folks who use the Aard Mushclient - is it possible to open up the Aardwolf.db file with sqlitebrowser?  I can't seem to do it
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to open it when mush is using it?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes it is.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: No, tried it with Mush closed
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: and tried it on copies of the db file... sqlitebrowser doesn't display anything when I try to open it.  
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: should try SQLite Expert.  There's a personal edition that's freeware.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: I'll give that a shot - ty :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm actually quite surprised something that good is outright freeware.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use Database Browser Portable from portableapps.com...connects to most types of databases
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people also use a sqlite browser firefox plugin to play with the mush db
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use the firefox one.. its very good apart fromteh fact you ahve to lauch FF to use it
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: FF has a pretty decent coldboot time at least.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: Awesome! SQLite Expert worked, and so did the FF plugin.  I guess my whole problem was with sqlitebrowser then.  Thanks all :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm trying out abe's program now
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: is it the 64 bit version? it's kinda buggy.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: trying out the portable one, but it doesn't seem to like wine (I am on linux)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, there should be plenty of linux tools for sqlite
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yeah, dont go using win tools for that..
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Suggestions for out ubuntu friends?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Suggestions for our ubuntu friends?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: good point.  I'll give a look into what other linux sqlite tools there are.  Though I am digging that FF plugin right now :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: abe, i'm liking this portable app you suggested
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, glad I could help :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.defenceindepth.net/2011/09/cracking-os-x-lion-passwords.html
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hrm, doom 4
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like a jolly nice idea
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2011-09-27/apple-iphone-event/50568212/1
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I want Ice Cream Sandwich instead.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im tired of android
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple is a Unix based OS.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So is windows
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: windows pe/coff format comes from sun's system v release 3 i think
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I love how Apple stole the icon from Xerox.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: but it was only a specification, which sun abandoned for elf
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there an easy way to adjust output from com log in aardmushclient
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: id love to have it create daily logs
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: according to http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetInfo, GetInfo(304) returns the current date and time...anyone know what format that's in?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: is there a way to access my current level in an alias, in aardmush?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: how do I get a gmcp variable? GetVariable is used in gmcp_handler, but doesn't seem to work.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: client?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: gmcp_handler sounds like mush
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: what i figured, just making sure.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: I see a CallPlugin call in another plugin that uses gmcpval. do I have to CallPlugin every time?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I think so, or you can get the info from that plugin wiht (i believe) GetPluginInfo()
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: kk. thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do you handle numbers with commas in regex? 
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: [\d,]
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: [d,]+
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: [\d,]+
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ah ok thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: so I'm new to the MushClient and having problems with my variables.  Is there an easy way to set a variable in an alias and have it execute a command (like "wield sword" will wield your sword and store "sword" as a variable)?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. declare a vzriable...in the variable window... then make an alias ..click the expand variables checkbox... then refer to the variable with an @  like @Weapon
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: got that?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: thanks WinkleWinkle, but I don't quite have it yet
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: how do you set the variable in the alias?  When I put eapon = kinfe it just sends that text to the mud
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: anyone else care to put their 2 cents in?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: is this in Mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: yes it is
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: looking for what I used.. one moment :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: here we go... ok, in the alias you can reference the alias by ariablename
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: that should be an at sign
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: double it :P
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: yeah, @@
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke8k2Gi2XZ4 
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Anyone buy the Star Wars Saga on Blu-Ray notice it takes a grip of time to load?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: he goes over making a targetting alias and explains how to expand it out to do other stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: testing the @sign
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: woot! :)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how would you call a mush alias from inside the DoAfter function?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: I was looking at that, but I'm trying to do something a little different.  I want to typin in "wield kinfe" and have it wield my knife and store "knife" to eapon
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: when I pug that in to the alias it just sends "eapon = knife" to the mud
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta change the send to drop-down
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Send("wear knife") SetVariable("weapon", knife)
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you want it to be parsed rather than sent
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, you want the alias to be "wield *"...the action should be Send("wear %1") SetVariable("weapon", "%1"), with the send to drop-down set to script
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: yeah, mnore versatile
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mins = mins
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it always ends on a tick though
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it'll be slightly more than 10 mins
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: and be sure to check off "expand variable"
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yaven Tech: thanks Abelinc, that finally did it for me.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Anyone here have a CNC?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shortbus Stutz Tech: I've used CNCs...dont have one.
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a CNC what?  mill, lathe?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Dokkar: mill
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so for this reflections on trusting trust they talk about infected compiolers pattern match/replacing code indetectably
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: if you went through a source file with your own program and renamed every variable and function in the code tree, couldn't you defeat that?
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i seen some tool's like that built, but they're mostly for obfuscation, i guess it's the same concept to some degree
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: probably make some nice addition to a code building library
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: you know you're in bad shape if you constantly drop your wired connection at the hotel!
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they probably just have a short timeout on keeping connections open....browsing wouldn't notice since it's all separate connections for each part of the page
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to most people, all the Internet is the Web
T3/r4/2011-09-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: probably good.. dropping so much noone cam steal your facebook cookie
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: anyone know how i change the input bar in mushclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: from the black on white..
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: command window, click the fg and bg colors to choose
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: thanks so much.. i was looking forever lol
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody elses firewall logs get filled with government contractor's ip addresses & google?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i disabled all the automated browser services and stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: no... Actually I haven't profiled where the attacks come from, but previously they used to originate from Romania, China, Spain
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: they are WATCHING you....
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: there's 2 applications that should access the internet right now, but if i watch my log file's iptables is catching google and the government
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i had some chinese ip's before too, but not recently
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, _outgoing_ connections?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There are programs to show net usage by program.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i don't filter those very much, but anything i don't establish gets logged
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: got about 200 mb's of log file's i could give to them investigators
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: grinding google on their business practices
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Meh. It might be your browser anti-phishing filter.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i disabled blacklist services in my browser
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Try the "nethogs" program
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: along with suggestions and autofetching
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Hm. Bast's spellup plugin seems to be disagreeing with something. The last couple of new spells I've added to the list have returned a comment about not being practiced. Except that they were practiced. Restarting my Aardwolf session allows me to add them without incident, however..
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Looks like it needed a refresh of slist.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'd assume typing slist spellup learned would fix it.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Hmm, okay. I suppose we'll see if that works. Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If that doesn't work i'd try 'slift affected noprompt' since i see that alot in notes.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: slist affect noprompt*
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: bah, affected*
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: slist spellup learned seems to have done the trick. Thanks again.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: cool
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: anyone that knows about blast plugins?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Bast, you mean?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: blast pugins, theyr grate
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagen Tech: bast...lol
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Okay, so I was wrong.. Bast's spellup plugin still thinks I haven't practiced this spell. I'm not sure why it let me add one earlier, but it's being an ass now. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Did you try slist affected nopromt too?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rascally Ryke nods.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: noprompt*
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, i haven't messed wiht his new stuff at all, so that's the extent of my guesses.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Ryke Tech: Ah, well. I appreciate the effort.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone know the significance of %%0 in an action for tintin++?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in mush, does the 14 in this error message mean the line number? [string "Alias: "]:14: attempt to compare number with string stack traceback: [string "Alias: "]:14: in main chunk
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It means you you are comparing a number with a string :).  try a tonumber().
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone else good with tt++ here willing to help me with my mafia results script? I borked it somewhere.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Need to figure out how to match blank lines to stop logging.:w
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone do graphic/logo design
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i do holliday, but only for people who use GMCP for repop
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I do use gmcp for repop now :)
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle :P
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh i actually couldn't design a logo to save my life
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: [11:40:46AM] (Group) Doc Holliday: '... and Lasher said "Let there be mobs in bonds"'
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how would I go about copying a key/value pair var on cmud to sql db
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I loopdb it, then put key/val into another db
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and then sql insert into
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it adds it literally
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: not the db's value
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: come on help me with this sql
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what sql?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more of a cmud question than a sql question
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it's being retarded
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #call %sql(db, "INSERT INTO table (val1,val2) VALUES (234, @var)")
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this thing adds 234 and @var
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: instead of say 234 and 123
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I remove the double quotes
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it doesn't work with multimple values
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #call %sql(db, INSERT INTO table (val1) VALUES ('@var'))
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this works
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #call %sql(db, INSERT INTO table (val1,val2) VALUES ('@var',123))
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this doesn't
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but if I remove the @var it works again
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so wtf is the issue
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's so inconsistent
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's zugg for ya...is there maybe an #eval?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the brackets work like eval ye
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mebbe it thinks it's a float number
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or what's it called
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I think it's the single quotes, though I could be wrong.  Try %concat("'",@val,"'")
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm adding the quotes cause it's a string
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Actually, do yourself a favor and do this: $sqlstring = INSERT INTO table (val1,val2) VALUES ('@var',123)
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Then do #CALL %sql(db, $sqlstring)
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, end-run it
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Er, make sure you quote the string portions.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good plan, just using [known consistency] variables first
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: $sqlstring = "INSERT INTO table (val1, val2) VALUES ('" + @var + "',123)"
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will try it
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just got a simple db var that i wanted to put in sqldb
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that last one's concat doesn't look right to someone that doesn't know cmud
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It should be correct.  + is equivalent to .. in lua.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Yeah, it should work for the sql string.  I normally use %concat, but learned fairly recent (a few months ago) that you can use + instead.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I figured the +, but the single/double quotes seem mismatched
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: where should the $sqlstring go
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: The single quotes are quoted with the intial string.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: TrEz: #CALL %sql(db, $sqlstring)
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no before that
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: [28 Sep 14:01:51] Etzli Tech: $sqlstring = "INSERT INTO table (val1, val2) VALUES ('" + ar + "',123)"
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Before the call.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: where do I input it tho it makes no sense
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Place it before the call, but after the variable has been populated. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it'd send it to the mud
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: It won't send it to the MUD if you do it the way I told you.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you trying to use an alias, or what is your method of saying "go" to this?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I put it into an alias
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it into whatever was planned for that
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You'll probably be safe putting it one line above your #CALL to add the info.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it outputs same error as before I'm not sure what's going wrong
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: What error is it outputting?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sql logic error or missing databse
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Is the database open?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I close is the error is different
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it*
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You've tested this with #SQLDB?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes, if I close it says no db found or something
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh actually
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmm.  It could be the sql string itself then.  The script modifications I gave you will work, provided you have the proper query.  I've used it a couple of times when I maintained a db.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in my example if I put ~ in front of the , it works
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I think it was thinking it's a number in there, in the columns/etc brackets
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Shouldn't have a ~ in front of anything... hmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and what if I want to do %sql(db, "SELECT * FROM table WHERE field=%1")
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it takes the %1 literally
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: An hour late, but TrEz, if you put anything in "", it'll always treat it as literally.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I worked it out :( tho it makes no sense
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apparently I had some old alias that did same thing and worked
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: only difference was, it was looking for an integer
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and the one that wasn't working was text/string, so I added ' '
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and works now
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it looked like "'%1'"
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I wish this stuff was more consistent
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and had more examples
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Hmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: actually I know what the problem with cmud is
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it doesn't have enough error codes
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so everything looks the same
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone have scripts that parse notes?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't have one that does the note yet, but it tracks the board/unread stuff and keeps it all in a nicely-formatted small floating window
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you just looking for something to capture all notes, or something more specific (ie, a mafia reporter)?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Are autoquaff pots illegal at all, does anyone know?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: have you read help botting?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Gets close. Read help botting
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Haven't actually. Thank you.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dokkar: I've been asking on Tech a day or two now, you noticed? :P
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: channel or board?  Can't say I remember seeing it, since I tend to gloss over mushclient/tf/tt stuff.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm... channel if at all.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nope, either I literally didn't see you asking until now or I was busy scripting something and simply didn't notice it go by.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: autoquaff is permitted while at the keyboard - but if you go afk while longterm fighting or in an aggro room where continuous fighting results, that is likely to construed as "botting" especially if a benefit is received and or other players are impeded by such afk activities (like hogging angry mobs)
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes and no.  You will want to know the game's current hour, but the night/day indicators as revealed in TIME and WEATHER aren't what determines things like ball/mansion entrance.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mix
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I wish to have an autoquaffer for zMUD, if anyone knows where to get one. However, I have every intention of being at the keyboard while I use it.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even when at the keyboard botting in certain situations is still illegal
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Would it be legal while fighting at the keyboard? Or to flee (or retreat), and then do it?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Read help botting. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: I have. I still can't decide if it would be or not. Maybe I don't understand it? >_>
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "statdb comp" do you see an error?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there we go, the man himself :-)
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: maelcum: you there?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that's a real name?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: apparently
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mael Tech: odd thing is, i'm also from NM :P
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon was down there a few months back.
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: should have stayed there!
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maelcum Tech: test
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Maelcum: type "statdb comp" do you see an error?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maelcum Tech: nope, tried that before to be sure, no errors
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: What about "statdb list" do you see a couple of milestones?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maelcum Tech: it just says levels between 12 and 12 current start
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, type "plugins reload miniwin_stats"
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maelcum Tech: ok waiting for it to come back
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wait, have you completed a quest, level, cp, or gq since you installed my plugin?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maelcum Tech: nope, do I have to in order for the tabs to come up?
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the tab won't appear until it has data
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maelcum Tech: ah I see, that must be it then. DOH! I feel dumb now haha
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siegfoult Tech: I hear this game is going 3D...
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yep the text will spin and flash too!
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You give Siegfoult the cold shoulder as he abandons Aardwolf for that graphic junk!
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siegfoult Tech: and of course it will be HD
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siegfoult Tech: lol
T3/r4/2011-09-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://xkcd.com/732/
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: So, I'm trying to edit my description, and when I hit '.q' on a new line, it just puts in 'q' - So, what can I do?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Using zUD.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: zMUD ^
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Turn off parsing.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: How might I do that? :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ctrl+P to turn it off briefly.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Thank you!
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's a note at the bottom of help description ;)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Thanks guys.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellsangels Tech: hey,i typed colorset brights and i then typed colorset colors but the colors in the second part compared to the first part dont differ,any help? 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellsangels Tech: im on via mxit
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: come to think of it, can't making your cell display brighter work?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellsangels Tech: could be..
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellsangels Tech: let me try,brb
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Can't you use a terminal client on your cell phone?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: worth seeing if your phone can run MidpSSH
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the sad thing is for some people it's far cheaper to connect via mixit compared to having a data plan.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yeah, silly phone companies :(
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: which i seriously don't get, unless it's supposed to be a form of censorship, or to get mixit a monopoly
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellsangels Tech: nope i have it on max,6 and it hasnt changed the colors
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: it's because Mxit is primarily an IM app, not for gaming...
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellsangels Tech: ok thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does anyone use html5 to make offline-capable web-apps?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: humanity deserves to be exterminated
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so why did browsers even bother claiming their products were html5 ready when they so clearly arent?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I don't know, IE6 doesn't have that problem :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Because they are ready for HTML5, just not for all of it?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: because sales and marketing guys are not coders...?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think Ranrr wins.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're not ready for any of it
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because html5 is still a work in progress?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then why claim that their browsers comply when they don't? in fact, it's worse than that, there are examples and workshops on the web where people are demoing it, and not even the demos that they claim to have tested in browser vx.0 and above don't work
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: html5 as a standard is still in developement. the html5 people usually talk about is a buzzword just like web2.0
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's entirely frustrating, because it means the only option is to pay through the bloody nose for apple's stupid development kit
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait, what?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the only other option to html5 offline apps is a native app
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: to write a native app for apple you need their development kit
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which also means writing the app multiple times for multiple platforms
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no adobe air on osx?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I shouldn't knock it, I've never used it, but if Adobe Reader is any indication :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, i've switched back to adobe reader
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because foxit has become worse with every version and reader has actually become better
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't know anything about adobe air tho, but i assume nuts wouldn't have to pay for the sdk
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra prefers xpdf
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shouldn't have needed extra guff, html5 is supposed to do what is needed
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's infuriating that anything made in the last 15 years is effectively buggered before you even start
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i use chrome to open most l
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: C++: if you call method that takes uint8 as a param, with something outside of uint8 range - how will it work ?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Will give the overflow value then, iirc? (or am I seeing this question wrong)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: depends on how strict the compiler is, but typically you would get a compiler error 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it's given at a runtime
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: overflow then, I guess
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scandalar rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Would be a compiler warning, if anything - gcc will allow it
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As in, not full on error
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But depending on what you are doing with it you will either get a type mismatch or an ut-of-bounds
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: out*
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, C++ is strictly typed, so any useful compiler will not allow it. It's not C.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: many compilers will implicitly cast for you, though
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then it's not a C++ compiler following the standard.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Most compilers I've used won't check for number boundaries
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Is there a script for zMUD that will tell me how many quests I've done at a level?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Will cMUD scripts work the same way in zMUD?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: No
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Some will, others will require modification.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: some will some wont.  do a save, then try them out, if it breaks, do a restore.  :p
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they're 'different' programs!
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Ah. Well, I found a quest tracker for MUSH, but I lack the knowledge to convert it.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Just do a compatibility search (file->compatibility from the settings editor).  It'll tell you should be changed.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: And that's from MUSH to zMUD, just to confirm?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: ...
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: You said from zMUD to CMUD.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's from z-> c
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Ahhh. Alright.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but it will probably still give you some errors
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Well, yeah, there's one for cMUD to. That'd probably be easier.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Awesome. Thanks guys. :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: If you're wanting to do MUSH to CMUD (or even zMUD) there are a LOT of modifications you have to do, especially from MUSH to zMUD.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Wow. :O
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How do I reference a stored variable in mushclient?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: @varname
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: (and have expland variables checked)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cupcake beams a smile at Ixle.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: oh yeah.  that too
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: can i create an alias in tintin style command-line mode #alias {string} {command} ?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: (i've had many alias fail because I forget to check that box)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think fiendish added an alias to allow you to ad an alias that way
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: try it.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: if you got the client from the aard site, they have that funactionaly
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I do, but it doesn't seem to be working, hmmm.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Where is the expland variable check-box?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol .. expand variable
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: either way :P
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: On the right of the alias screen
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: right side of alias/trigger dialog
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: along the right side of the make-a-alias box
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle enthusiastically high-fives Cupcake!
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i like "make-an-alias box" better then dialog.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you know.. i do too
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: dialog makes me think I'm talking to it.  :p
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: rather than wrestling with it? :D
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: thats a better word for how I often feel about code.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: about working with code rather
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i know.. thousands of lines of Lua code later.. i'm sure it's aged me a year of my life
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: well i was trying to pass a variable to the mapper goto command, seems i have to make an alias to do the whole thing
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Ixle ... make sure the send To drop down list is set to "execute"
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so the mapper can intercept it
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm not sure how to do that. First day with all this.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: CTRL - SHIFT - 8 (for trigger) 9 (for alias)  edit your item.. change teh Send to drop down
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: ah, i see the send to drop-down now
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: "world" means send with no alias able to listen, "execute" means send but an alias may take it as a command, "script" means pure Lua code... those are the three you'll be using for Send To
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what are you attempting to write?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I want to store a vnum of a room into a variable, and then be able to pass that into 'mapper goto yvariable'
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: er (at)myvariable
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: double the @ to make it show.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Maybe you could make an alias of mg to do mapper goto @myvariable?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: type @@ to see in aard
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: type @@ to see @ in aard
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers with Cupcake about their shared secret.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cupcake grins evilly.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: anyway, i want to be able to type mapper goto @myvar
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i agree with Etzli
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and how are you setting the variable?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: yes I could etzli, in fact I have that now. However I would eventually like to have multiple vnum variables stored and use the same command to get to them
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I want to also alias 'mapper goto' to just 'goto'
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: you can do that with an aard alias
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How do I make an aard alias do the mapper commands?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: alias goto mapper goto
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli doesn't know much about MUSH, but I know how to do it in CMUD. :P
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virginal Cirion Tech: I want zMud back :(
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Cupcake: That doesn't seem to work
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i'm always typing asnw instead of anse, so I aliased it.  if i type asnw again, the mud still send all that follows it to the answ channe
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for a mapper goto alias ... alias match: "mg *"   alias action (big text box): "mapper goto %1"   alias send to (drop down) : execute
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that will work
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok winkle that works
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It works if I pass digits, not a variable
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. that is right
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Now how would I do 'mg @myvar'
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i dont think you can pass a variable from the command line.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: step back one.. hwo are you populating @myvar
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Winkle I just made it with the gui variable editor
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yep.. but how will you supply it a value?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: aka shift+ctrl+7
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: from where 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I added the contents from the edit button
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: in the gui WW, click add, type the name, click the big box, type the value...
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and you're going to do that every time you want to use it?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: its how I do mine too
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for different rooms?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yep, I got that name=myarmor contents=32472
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: aw. he's aliasing room numbers with names
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the part he wasn't telling us.. i knew it was there
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: variables are used with things that change, like mana pots
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: why do they always hold back info?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sorry for incomplete information, I thought I was being forthright.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: they dont know whats important  :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: true i suppose
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Cupcake.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: in tintin I just made the variable and the made the alias reference the variable
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well you used up all my time Ixle.. i've gotta get back to my other stuff
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm sure cupcake will be helpful :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: you want to type mg (some name you can remember) to go to a particular room number.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: sorry, WW, I'm not sure how to do what he wants.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah cupcake, but for my own reasons, I would like the value of (some name i can remember) to be able to be changed relatively easily
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got my plugin i have to finis before this reboot breaks it..
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^next reboot
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well I know more about making aliases anyway. So all was not wasted.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: why would you want to change a room name to a differnt room number?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I think he means a meaningful variable name
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Let's say I'm exploring a zone and I might get lost. I would like to set a variable @entrance to a vnum of the entrance room
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: then I can just 'mg @entrance'
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: and have it send 'mapper goto vnum-of-entrance-i-stored'
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I often get lost while exploring an area looking for an item or a quest/campaign mob. This would let me store a vnum on the way in and easily be able to walk back to that point shortly thereafter.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: you need an alias that sends the variable name (using %1) and excutes the variable from inside the alias
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: because there's no way for MUSH to get a vaiable from the command line
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: like mg *, then type mg entrance
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: alias - match : "setroom *"   action : "SetVariable("myvar", "%1")"  sendto : "script"
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: yep. then in the big box have @%1 for the variable
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: will mapper goto tonumber(GetVariable("%1"))
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: work?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Winkle: I want to learn how to work that at some point. 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just make mush set the first room when it enters a new area as the start room, then you don't even need to set it yourself. 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Atm, I have it working slightly hacked. Much thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: personally I have better luck with just sticking the commands in the edit box rather then using script.  (8shrug*)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i just made on alias for mapper speedwalks where room id numbers can be stored in array. usage for example: mrt verume
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: array key is the keyword
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that'll certainly work Jedhi
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: then again, I havent spent any time learning how to use mapper.  I just runto an area, and sometimes click on a square to got here.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i can share the code id anyone wants
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in one of my plugins i searcht eh DB for the "first" entered room for that area in teh Database and run to that by name
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well i just started to look into lua and mush. babysteps :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: btw lua+mush has some real lack in documentation i think
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well it's a cool way of doing it J
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a  great lua resource is the Functions list under Mush Help
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and to test lua code do a "i feel lucky" on the search "lua demo"
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i'll take a look. is there a simple turorial on gmcp? i don't underestand the one in the wiki
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for gmcp help .. looka t how stat mon plugin receives gmcp in the function onPLuginBroadcast
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx again
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: anytime
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: this is the first scripting language and application i have come across which main know-how comes from a decade old forum
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: gammon.com.au is still pretty active.. gammon repsonds in hours to forum posts
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i know. using it at the moment
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: just the forum "technology" seems to come from the archive folder :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Winkle do you have answer for this question i have: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11359&page=2
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: god that background on that site destroys my RDP connection
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and yes.. i have an answer... as i wanted to do teh EXACT same thing
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 1) you cannot (impossible) intercept the mapper output that is displayed on your screen
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: isn't that similar to your S&D pluging winkle?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 2) I asked Fiendish to "broadcast" his search results so they could be consumed by other plugins.. which i beleive he has done so.. but i have not used
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: S&D triple pack has the fucntionality youre' after .. the mapper extender to be exact
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so what i did before he added it was I wrote my own db fuctions to search teh database directly
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so i could consume it...   the Search and Destroy triple pack has a "quick where" fucntion that will do what youre' after
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i don't i just want to get the location of the mob i'm looking for and then do mapper area location
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, i'll look your plugin
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i hope i underestand it. everything is very new to me 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: actually jedhi yes you can.. i was overcomplicating it 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you wanted to jsut do that you could.. one fo the hard parts of that is correctly scraping the where result
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as it doesn't happen immediately after the where command and can be unpredictable a little.. spellup messages get int he way.. room descriptsion.. etc
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what it needs *hint* *hint* (to imms) is a <where></where> tag wrapping it
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so you can grab it easily
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could make a post on ideas about it....not sure hints are parsed on tech channel :P
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've kinda worked aorund that with a dynamically created trigger based on teh mob name and there being a space at character 39
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: meh, i don't think it should be made any easier to practically bot
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well i know that's the reason there isn't a wheretag
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but it doesn't stop it.. just slows it down.. makes it slightly more unpredictable
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: inability to stop it doesn't mean that it should be made easier
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would raise the same argument for having a public script like yours too, but meh
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well then it makes it an advantage to those who can code over those who can't..  that's why i released my plugin to give those without coding skills a chance against those with ones that let them win in under a minute
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and then force all those who initially had no intention of using scripts to use them to be on an even playing field?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Careless Whisper Tech: just learn the areas :P
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not that i have any moral high ground anyway, i use the mapper for everything now
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can't win gqs without learning an area.. even with the best plugin..
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wanna bet?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have no idea of the layout for the new areas
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you got a copy of someones map perhaps
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well it takes like 5 minutes to run through the area once
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and you won't remember where mobs are and exact layout
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tehre are mob to room mappers out there
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thankfully not common
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: GQs have become an arms race.. it's the biggest scam int he mud, and the imms cast a blind eye to reforming them
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Both Fiendish and I have asked for GQ reform and all you get is crickets from up above
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: SO as long as some people are using the where result to win GQs, you might as well make it open to all.. and give them <where> tags
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virginal Cirion Tech: lol I read that as <where> fags.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: anyone who has an issue with "kind a botting" should read lashers thoughts on the aard mapper future
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: where at?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: where can i read that?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: somewhere on the aard homepage
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: on the plugin page i think
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't see anything...
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: on sec
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is on the wiki. not sure it was lasher, but still it's official i think http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCPMapper
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: so in the futere it might know the mobs as well
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think he's referring to mobs appearing
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The change to add those lines was by admin.  However, that article is QUITE old, and most probably far out of sync with Fiendish's actual goals for enhancements.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: like the ascii map
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you want actual data on what's coming down the line as far as the mapper goes (and the Aardmush package in general) http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/ is the place to look.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can see a 0% chance of fiendish adding a mob to room mapper.. he's more passionate about thei GQ topic than i am
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virginal Cirion Tech: its nit to see its the same old issues on gq's as when i left like 5-6 years ago.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virginal Cirion Tech: nice
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Some things never change :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virginal Cirion Tech: like people who dont win gqs moan about how the people specialized in it wins
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn . o O ( i win gqs and i think it's cheating )
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and the ones who win GQs don't want it to change
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tessalyn Tech: Dunno, I haven't seen much actual complaining in the couple of weeks i've been back. Well, on public channels on my online hours *shrugs*
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm not even complaining for myself, I've got 50 gq wins.. i'm pretty happy about that.. i've specialized for GQs and have a advanced plugin to help me find things... I just know it's gotten to the point where you pretty much can't win a non-solo gq without a decent plugin.. and for those without one, you might as well give them the tools to be competitive.. or reform GQ rules to have a golf handicap for those reaping the majority of the wins or Fiendish's algorithm for people winninga  lot in a short time period
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd just like them to be fun for newer users
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you realise before the proliferation of the aard client, only a few people actually used mappers for gqs?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: now it's a requirement, it didn't use to be
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i played here before there was "run"
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Careless Whisper Tech: that wasn't that long ago :P
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and were there many people using mappers then?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, all zmud users, which was the majority at the time
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hell, it was hard back tehrn to even find a speedwalk
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm pretty sure the majority of zmud users didn't bother with a mapper
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: since setting it up was a major hassle
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes true, definitely not all
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: Anyone ever see an issue where the Aardmushclient will crash when you resize the main window?  This is also using wine/linux if that makes a difference...
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: crash all the way.. or throw errors?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: crash all the way - completely hangs.  I even changed perms to 777 to make sure it wasn't a perm thing
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i don't know.. try updating your wine perhaps?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: yea, made sure it was already updated.  Ahh well.. gonna try and download the client again and reimport the aard db and mcl I am thinking
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: when Fiendish is online next, he may help you
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: if you have a plugin for mush, that had variables as part of the plugin wizard setup... where would you find those to check them after the plugin has been installed?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Should be in a subfolder of the plugin folder called state or something?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: so I just installed the aardmush client from scratch and imported the db and mcl file... works fine near.  Weird.  Ya, maybe I will run it by him next I see him on :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mirk Tech: near=now
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ok I see those, now aside from opening each individual xml file any way to see it inside mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope, but the state file will have your plugin ID.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What's the issue, did it not rememember those variables?  All you have to do is copy it to the new state folder usually.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I think it's doing some math wrong, or not catching something from my trigger, it worked fine before I switched it to a plugin, so I'm wondering if I did something wrong when using the pluginwizard
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: PLugin wizard has a dangerous default of moving triggers aliases and variables, and startign with everthing selected
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to WinkleWinkle.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyway to "undo" the pluginwizard aside from redoing each thing individually?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virginal Cirion Tech: no
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: damn :(
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well sort of.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can kinda paste them back
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virginal Cirion Tech: tbh I dont know Mars :P
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can copy and paste from that and import them.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is it one simple plugin alias/trigger combo that isn't working?  Might be possible for us to help daignose why it isn't working
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: select all text from <triggerS> to </triggers> and click the paste button (not control + V).. yeah .. 
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: and repeat for aliases/variables.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: if you unchecked the retain state part when creating the plugin could that cause problems?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think so.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Think if you put save_state="y"
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: good plugins should have a default value
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: UP near the top it should un do that checkbox.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or i might be misunderstanding.. which i think i am
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Put save_state="y", up at the top of the plugin .xml file, right below where it says date_written - reload see if that fixes it.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nah didn't fix it.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ok here is the problem
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: if I run the script on this pc where I created it, it runs like a charm
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: but if my wife runs it, it doesn't work properly(on a different pc)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, open the xml, look for any file paths
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: i remember there was this sound file for aardowlf client, but i can't remember from where
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: something didn't export correctly? a global variable perhaps
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: can someone tell me? was it winklebottoms or something?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don, finger winklewinkle
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: ah thanks
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I converted a promotion point tracker that was in cmud script so she could start using mush
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is there any reason why you can't copy your entire mushclient folder from your computer to your wifes though?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nah I can do that, and never thought about doing that
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle changes his name to WinkleBottoms.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: rofl I guess I'm just an idiot sometimes lol
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nah not at all - if you don't do it everyday you lose it :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, better than tinklebottoms :P
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: we are networked together so I can just c/p it over later, but fornow I've put off housework far too long
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks for yer help
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That should work :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: perfectly in fact :)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Donquixote Tech: lol i dunno where i got the bottoms from, sry
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol .. i love it
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorressean Tech: anyone know if there's a jailbreak for 4.3.10 CDMA?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not sure
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody know what i'm doing wrong with this little program? http://pastebin.com/z3yu2D76
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i try to keep track of column's and plug in tabs along the colum % TABSTOP, but it's not working correctly
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: it's a annoying ass program
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: or function, entab and detab
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: easy if you don't align things
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: http://pastebin.com/nZtk6KSM figgered it out
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i had a logic error where i wasn't subtracting modulo from tabstop and instead missing spaces
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: so $hello     world , was getting turned into hello<tab> and missing 2 blanks in output, but now it's done correctly
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: now it places a tab, and then 2 spaces world
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: mindbending ass stuff, it's useful to have code for though, saves bandwidtch and disk space
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: final edit is to make the else useful, TABSTOP - y > 1, otherwise there's just 1 space to put, which is 1 byte, like a tab
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there a way to exclude a specific file type in scp? Like if i wanted to do scp -rv, would there be a way to NOT copy anything of extension .zip?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: Could someone define what a 'quest tracker' would do? (zMUD)
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: is there a way to turn off the mouse wheel map zooming in and out in mush?
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grim Angel Yuushi Tech: Can anyone help with a keyboard problem? Whenever I type on my other computer it is like using shortcuts instead of typing the letters.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malbert Tech: sounds like a key stuck, try tapping the ctrl, shift, alt, and windows keys a bit
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: sorry, i don't quite follow what you mean.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grim Angel Yuushi Tech: For example, if I press the P key it brings up the "How you want to display screen". Pressing D takes me to the desktop..
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Your windows key is stuck
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malbert Tech: windows key and D together bring you to the desktop
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malbert Tech: try tapping it a bit
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grim Angel Yuushi Tech: That worked! Thanks.
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol... tech channel is awesome
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grim Angel Yuushi agrees!
T3/r4/2011-09-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: your note was deleted :(
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: acer aspire sheen
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: acer aspire sheen
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Charlee Sheen Tech: acer aspire not loading when powered on. it recently poweredoff due to low battery. ideas?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How do I get rid of {invmon} and {invitem} tags? tags inf is off.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Longimanus Tech: is this the right channel for issues with tasks?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just toggle invmon?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ohh. Silly me.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How weird.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Find and kill 1 * a cocoon hatchling (Tanra'vea)
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: Tanra'vea?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: why wierd?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: [1] Your decapitation does UNBELIEVABLE things to a cocoon hatchling! [2532]
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Congratulations, that was one of your CAMPAIGN mobs!
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You still have to kill * a cocoon hatchling (Tanra'vea)
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Seems that kill didn't count?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: there could be two different vnum versions of the mob.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and you got both of them.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: wrong place to ask, but read help keys and help hunt trick
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: nope, there was only one.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Actually, all three mobs from Tanra'vea didn't count.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Maybe there are other (no where, no scan) mobs with that name? :)
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Then either they would show up in my cp list
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or else I wouldn't have got credit for those!
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: if you done the hunt trick and found nothing, then it could be no-where etc...
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: nono, you don't understand
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: type 'cp info' are there two listed?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I had _one_ copy of 3 mobs in Tanra'vea
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Did you miss the part where he copied and pasted that he got the congratulations message?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: and I got the credit and they still remained there. I'll try to kill them again now.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Oh, missed that one, indeed.. If you type 'cp check' is it sill shown?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: "still"
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: shir. i've had 3x of the same name, diff vnum mobs in a cp before.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: He also said he only had one.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: and check out help hunt trick
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it'll help you determine which one is the correct one
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: actually three different mobs in Tanra'vea, all with the same problem!
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: not from where
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: he just said his check. not cp info
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: I don't understand why hunt trick is being recommended when he clearly said he got the "Congratulations! THat was your campaign mobs!" message.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: cp info also says there's one of each.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: one of each? meaning 3 different mobs listed?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: 3 mobs, all have the same problem
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: 3 _different_ mobs, right. Different names.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: cocoon hatchling, black forest devil and spectre.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: wait, I'll double-check my log.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: haha, got it.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It was MUSHclient upgrade which messed up my logging (for some weird reason, it kept logging into the OLD mushclient) + two different campaigns that both had cocoon hatchling from Tanra'vea + broken plugin that didn't handle apostrophe in Tanra'vea.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sorry for wasting your time
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Glad it clarified :)
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: friend got a new cpu cooler: http://imgur.com/gVhKr
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: how i just updated the mushclient how can i change the text back to how it was?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frozone Tech: configiration > Output
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: does anyone know the Font for muchclient R1248?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dian
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dina
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sendokon Tech: thanks!
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf version of MUSHclient is Dina. Look in the MUSHclient main folder.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is the cell app for aard avail for iphone 
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Google tells me no.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Blowtorch apparently has no iOS port yet.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Reviews I'm looking at point you to PocketMUD and MUDMaster
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: anyone good w/ipad2 vpn ? looking for some advanced settings if possible.
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ghostdm Tech: any good MUSH plugins for inventory or consider available anywhere?
T3/r4/2011-09-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Inventory? Explain.