T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: MW3 or Battlefield 3? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ive never played any of the battlefields? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and i put question marks in places they dont belong T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Why is this on tech? :p T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: And not gametalk? :p T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: because from a technology stand point which is better T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: figured people on tech would be more critical than the average gameplayer. Graphical/Engine/etc T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli snickers softly. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and i forgot gametalk even exists T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thats why T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday snickers softly. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: Is there someone out there who has a few minutes to assist me with aardclient. My automap has stopped working and is now appearing in the main window instead of the smaller one, and I can see all the tags now. :\ T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: have you installed any new plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: nothing new, this just started like 20 mins ago T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try reloading the plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: out of the blue, automap froze, showed up in main window and all the tags started appearing T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: or restarting the client. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: I've restarted twice now T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that would be the next step, nod T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: let me try reloading plugins T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that shouldn't make a difference if you've restarted the client T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the plugins all get closed and loaded again when you reopen anyway T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: yeah... I just tried reloading all of them and a lot of them said could not be found unexpectedly T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: something change in your path, maybe? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: corrupted files? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vasrysn slaps himself, really strange ... T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the path doesn't change on its own :P T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: I turned off triggers T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: I'm such an idiot T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: rofl T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: eureka! it's alive! T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: lol well you all helped in a round about way so thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: ok I figured out what I did, I was trying to disable my afk reply trigger and accidently turned em all off T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: thanks again guys T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Glocken Tech: can someone give me the info to make a connection to aard on blowtorch client T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Download the Aardwolf blowtorch. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: why not just download the aard version? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: That's all you need. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Besides that, look at 'help ip' T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grae Tech: anyone ever use a tablet for doing CAD? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mush.. anyone else ever have a 10 second lag between a triggering and the associated sound going off? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is your sound file broken? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: can exit level locks be added from the command line? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: mush T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anything can be added from the command line T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, but only because there isn't an alias for it T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: is there a way in CMud to set a trigger with a varrying syntax...I know that sounds odd but here's the example...looking for a hunt trigger. You are confident that a/the mobname passed through here, heading direction. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it's the a/the part you're asking about? {a|the} T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a variable pattern. The syntax is unchanging T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: that's it, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to put a|the into a hunt trigger though T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: can also just use %w at that point, which would be faster (simple wildcards are faster than complex ones like stringlist patterns, even if you don't actually detect a difference), but that opens you up to evil imm spoofing as they botcheck you. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: looking to capture the mobname into a vairable, that's the reason I was looking into it T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: autohunt scripts are legal anyway... T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said anything about it being illegal? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: dokkar T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yeah, but nothing stops the botchecker from using messaging for legal activities. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I did not say it was illegal T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Laird Lornaco Tech: 0h 3 T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, you said it opens you up to evil imm spoofing as they botcheck you... T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you assumed that by me referencing bots I meant only the illegal ones. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: but they have no reason to botcheck you for an autohunt script, cause they're legal... T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Bots are illegal. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: being botchecked isn't because you were autohunting, but autohunting is often part of a bot T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Scripts are legal :P T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it is one of the things which will probably be messed with during the checks T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: must assemble all the little bits of incriminating data heheheh T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, if you're trying to capture the name of the MOB, you'd WANT the a/the, as that's all part of it T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bots are scripts, ergo bots are legal. Botting, as an abstract activity, is legal here, but the reasonable yet very arbitrary differentiation is that certain kinds of bots are illegal. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: yes, but for example I'm unable to hunt 'the deep dragon', but deep dragon I can T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: that's a keyword issue, and removing the the's and a's aren't gonna fix that T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: soltair, that's not because of "the"...there is no relationship between a MOB's name and what you can hunt T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dokkar: I think not. Bots are sets of scripts which allow the gaining of benefits without the player's presence. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Scripts, per se, are legal as long as player involvement is required. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: okay, explain spellup bots T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: explicitly laid out in the rules on botting on why this type of bot is legal, and what steps you have to take to ensure certain occasional exceptions don't then make it illegal. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think that was one of the arbitrary differences drawn by the Imms.. I never saw the need for them and never do. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: /do/will/. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bots are like guns. Can't arrest the gun, only the person who pulled the trigger (pun not really intended). T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, probably the most apt. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: Annnnyyways...thanks all for your help T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why do you need the mob name from the hunt message, anyways? Just to verify your attempt activated on the correct mob? T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: I wanted to have it capture the name to ensure that it was targeting the correct mob throughout the script, not changing due to say a repop. I have an alias to stop it and that's what I'm going to stick with now. Didn't work as I had intended due to keywords T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wouldn't work more often and more significantly due to keys as opposed to keywords. Players don't normally get to identify mobs based on their keys, so you'd have to do the detection indirectly. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: mob keyword cracker T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inquisitor alt is easier than a cracker ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: more trouble than it is worth as I only wrote the script to get me through mazes faster...on my mind were specifically gauntlet and nenukon T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yeah, let's see it crack the maelstrom oysters or the FT2 prince*s :P T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: that would be a shucker T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's not until you are standing in their room that you can tell the difference, and by then both the autohunt script and the hunt trick is pointless. T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: i use mush, i have variables counting lots of things (my whois) i would like to make an alias that will exucute an echo displaying the value of a variable T3/r5/2011-11-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can make triggers that store to variables but you can't make an alias that prints one? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: correct T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: sorry, didnt know you replied lol T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: can you help fiendish? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: hrmm, k does anyone know how I can put all the dialogues and stuff in my output box for UMC? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: can anyone give me a web that i can download a phone client? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Ask a spider. They're much better at giving webs. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish yawns. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: fiendish, halp me! T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with what T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: the alias to display a variables value in a echo on mush T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you use to put the value into the variable? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: what do you mean? im completely new at scripting T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you said you got a variable with some stuff in it T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how did the stuff get there? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: sent to script and then the var vorpcount is a numeric value T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: LOL poor fiendish T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah, so you're not actually storing that in a client variable T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Variables T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: 0h T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: not finding what im looking for on there fiendish T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you looking for T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: im making a runto buttonset and it fills the whole page, but its kind of hard to read with everything underneath, was trying to find if theres a command that clears all info, or most of it T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all questions should be prefixed with "I am using client X" T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because nobody on here knows what you're talking about without that informatoin T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: sorry blowtorch on android T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what happens if you type "cls"? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: nothing T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok, I guess blowtorch doesn't do naws T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you might try emailing the creator of blowtorch at dan@happygoatstudios.com T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I don't see anything on the website about clearing the screen T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: ok ill give that a shot, thx T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: i tryed signing in on this game blazing angels, but my key is unknown and it tells me matchmaking error. Whats up with that? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: any help on what key is? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't even know what you're talking about T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you are using someone elses key that is determined to be stolen T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: online gaming T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Please, "infringed" T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you download the program pirated instead of buying it? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ... T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what the message is telling you :P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: ghostsoul T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: best place to ask is that games own forum if you have legit game :) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: well i tyed the forum, bt no replies T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: mushclient.. anyone know why my Basy miniwindows would sudddenlu turn completely black without any error and resinstalling them fixes it untill it happens again at a random time? i'm using current aard client and current bast plugins. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, http://blazing-angels.uk.ubi.com...screen has a badge "Blazing Angels Secret Missions coming Summer 2007 to XBox360 & PC T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: Bast* T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Wow...nice of them to keep things current...:-P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: do you have most recent plugins sindain? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Sindain: known problem that nobody knows the cause of T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see this forum thread... T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: damn, thanks fiendish T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11315 T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: some things go beyond knowledge. that is why there is nerds :) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol youre telling me things i know T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: no he's telling you things you only think you know T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: whats with matchmaking error? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not your game T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you pirated wrong game. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: You wouldn't download a car! T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I would if it were possible. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: hell yea i would T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: I actually would :P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I totally would download a car T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: 3d printer's yo T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: see, people read even this channel :) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: You wouldn't RepRap a car! T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: what is reprap? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: reprap.org T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: report a rapper with too good car :) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: too small T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: self-replicating 3d printer T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: start from the key :) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: well then I'l HAVE to askn my cuz to get an origenal T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good idea, luke T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you want to play a commercial game, buy it T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: When you want to play Aardwolf, buy it. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Ol' Dirty Fiendish, in complete agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: wait i have to buy this? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: i lost 10mb on this game client T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm sure someone can help you find it. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, next time don't waste bandwidth on illegal warez :P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: wow so funny T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: whats tnt 4? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: whats tnl 4? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a notification that you're about to die T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nvm T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: its to next level T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: want to hear a joke? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: BAM REJECTED T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: Luke is smart! T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slodhian falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: this is not the channel for jokes. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: cera, that is good one too T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: thats what my class told me T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what is the not-equals operator in SQLite? Is it <> or just NOT NULL? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: != T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's many things T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: != is the standard sql operator T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: <> and != should both work T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why would not-equals be NOT NULL... T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as well as NOT LIKE T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and if you're trying to check against null, NOT NULL may work as well T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not like isn't really != T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, I'm specifically testing for empty strings. Only want results that aren't empty. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is if you mean != LIKE x :D T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway google "sqlite not equals" T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: NULL is not an empty string T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "" is an empty string T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then you need to test for not null and also test for length(x)=0 T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: Does anyone here know how I can put all channel dialogues, social actions and whatnot into my output box for UMC v.1.18.10? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is UMC? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: a certain MUD T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: I've been using it for Nodeka for a whiiile. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: We do not condone multiple muds T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday snickers softly. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: Lol, well how else will somebody stumble on to a MUD without playing a couple before? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we don't condone polygyny either, but that's not to say it isn't a good thing T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: this is the first and only mud ive ever played T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: Tigernuts hit the spot. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: my ex introduced me to it :) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: You're such a MUDvirgin Holliday :P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you are supposed to play a couple of other muds before finding aard, then never going anywhere else again. (*nod self*) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: So no one? :/ T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: never heard of this UMC thing T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: Probably wouldn't if you've only had Aardwolf recommended MUDs T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: I couldn't find it anywhere on the site when I was lookin' T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's an aardwolf recommended mud? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: one without pig poo T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: I guess MUSH T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean a CLIENT T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "MUD" refers to the game server, not the client T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: sure whatever you wanna call it T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ganondalf Tech: Thanks for the clarification :P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there a way to copy and paste colors in mushclient? i know zmud does it.. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use ctrl+D instead of ctrl+C T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can it do the aard color code paste like zmud does? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's what it does T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh cool T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+D will copy text with color codes T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't know if that was just mush-internal color T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there something i need to enable, at the moment ctrl+d does nothing T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the paste? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well, you need to be using the aardwolf client package T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: oh... T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just regular paste once it's copied? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: regular paste T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sweet, u rool :-) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ctrl+d inserts aard and 256 color codes into the clipboard copy T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so CTRL-D just a plugin feature? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: So jealous. I need to write a script to get 256 copy/paste. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes dokkar T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: can i get the plugin without installing the whole aardmuch? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Why not install the whole aardmush? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: why wouldnt you wanna isntall aardmush T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: install even T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: aardmush rocks T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically you don't install aardmush, just unzip it, so yes, you can...but it won't be supported ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: balls. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that it won't work, but the chances of getting questions answered by the one guy that understands it goes down ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the plugin is aard_copy_colour_codes.xml. It requires aardwolf_colors.lua T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can figure it out from there T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: ill just change to aardmush :P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah!! another convert!!! T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: i tried it when it was first released and just found all the boxes too hard to adapt to at the time T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it really is better that way...other plugins you have are generally meant to be stuck into any mush...aardmush's stuff plays off each other more T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define first released...lasher/gammon's aardmush really doesn't share anything significant with Fiendish's... T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: it was the lash/gam one abe, tryinf fiendish's now T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: trying* T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that one had to be installed, and it wanted to be the primary mushclient, wanting you to nuke all evidence of prior MUSHclient before installing, it used windows instead of miniwindows, etc...it's almost comparing free zmud to cmud ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nah, the comparison is paid ZMud versus CMud. 7.21 is officially deadware, but 4.62 is much more deader than that. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there a way to change the font in the mini windows? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right-click on them T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of right-click goodness in the aardclient :-) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: fiendish. i. love. you. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people get so excited by this stuff T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: ive been on the old freeware version of mush for years now lol T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you might end up an old maid before you get to have his babies, though T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, all mush is freeware, and has been for years ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wish nick would use a more standard license and stop calling it freeware, actually. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd much rather he called it free software T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's not standard about it? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's quite FOSS T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/License_proliferation T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so calling it freeware is entirely appropriate T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, but unfortunately misleading T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in the least T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It is to me, since it's most commonly associated with closed-source software. I think "free software" more completely describes it, since that covers more aspects. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you have a personal stigma for the term...that doesn't make it misleading T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think my personal stigma is unfounded. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course you don't T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh." T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't mean it isn't :P T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Besides, I still prefer to eliminate ambiguity. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and "freeware" leaves non-cost elements ambiguous T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ambiguous != misleading T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, two different issues T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ambiguous because of historic usage for freeware T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: misleading because of historic usage for freeware T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the term freeware has been used to encompass software licensed similarly to mushclient for 25 years T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are there enforceable paid open source titles? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so historic usage doesn't make it misleading T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes Dokkar T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dokkar, many BSD-licensed products T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how's it enforceable? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more ambiguity ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how is it enforceable? through the court system T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: then it's not truly open source. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe in scotland T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open source means the source code is available in some form...depending on the licensing, the source doesn't need to be available for the whole/particular product... T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but source being available doesn't change [legal] enforceability T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real difference between pirating an opensource project and pirating a closed source one...you're still copying someone else's work in electronic form T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so all the open-source means is a bunch of pen-n-paper/notepad scribbling, not actually working on the source itself? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is this I don't even T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: meaning you can't just compile and go? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: opensource means that source is available... T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how available is up for interpretation...and there are closed-source products which are just enhanced versions of opensource projects T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like OSX...the core of the OS is freely available, but it won't be like a Mac T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: the wolf in the backround is a nice touch. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: can i turn of notes from certain boards? T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you can unsubscribe. T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: subscribe T3/r5/2011-11-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drykwyrm Tech: how can I move my main communication window in MUSHclient? T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drykwyrm Tech: the tp of the box is up under the toolbars T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what happens if you type 'resetaard'? T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drykwyrm Tech: thanks fiendish, that worked, much apreciated! T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: which file(s) need to be copied to preserve mapping from mapper in the mush client? T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: Got a wierd problem with my script. if i got a mob or a room with dead in the name, it will be ignored. figured it's something in the script that's ignoring it. Is there anyway to find this ignoring trigger quick in mushclinet? T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a campaign tracker script... T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alucard nods at you in agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when a cp target is dead, "cp c" lists them as You still have to kill * the Arenamaster (Paradise Lost - Dead) T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your pattern for matching that case is too loose T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alucard nods at you in agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: I thought he said his trigger was ignoring the target completely? wouldn't that mean his trigger is not loose enough? T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you keep one instance of one item at a time (when not using "all) T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: No, the trigger is too loose because it is activating on any instance of the word "Dead" instead of just the cp c results. T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: so something is matching "dead" in the room name or the mob name and it's causing it to ignore that line T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yojimbo Tech: ok i updated my iphone4 to iso 5.0 n now when i tuen phone horzomtal, sceen stays vertical, how can i fix this T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: so just pull up the script and do a text search for "dead" and see what triggers are set up to match that pattern? T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yojimbo, double-click the "home" button (round thing), then slide to see what is to the left of your recent apps T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: Probably as part of a script designed around caompaigns to prevent you from going to an area only to find that the mob is dead. So when it gets a dead result from the "cp check" it ignores the line and moves to the next. T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the leftmost icon is a circle/arrow...that's your rotation lock T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: But the trigger and implememtation is too loose. T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yojimbo Tech: ahhh thanks mate T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one threw me for a loop on an ipad when ios4 changed the slide switch from rotation lock to mute T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: That's what I would do Bertilak T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: right, it should match " - Dead)" which is what appears at the end of the campaign target line T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod. T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: depending on the syntax and the actual capture/variable used it might not match that exactly T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: which you can do with something like " - Dead\)\.$" T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: cause it also has a period at the end T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: at least I think it does... T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: it might not have the period T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: well you could make that optional anyway T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: " - Dead\)\.?$" T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to make optional something that doesn't exist :P T3/r5/2011-11-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: ') T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: no response from it T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: you typo'd define and are invis T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nice T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what'm i doing wrong...? command: mapper cexit open south;south mud output:You did not find a south; south. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: use two semicolons instead of just one T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: You did not find a south;;south. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i don't use ; to line break. i use a tilde T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well then, that's your trouble. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it shouldn't have anything to do with the mapper, though... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the reason to use 2 is to override the break T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The mapper uses execute to parse commands. Execute uses your line break. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah, k, thx T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Lol type "do a barrel roll" in google. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Is there a way to have Lua's os.time return the current time? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Or is there a function for that at all, actually? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Never mind, found what I need. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: i seem to have hidden my Bast Events pugin miniwin. anyone know the command to show a miniwin? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baelnorn Tomz Tech: When I update the aard mushclient, wich files should I backup to keep my window's position and size not being reset? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: it T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: oops T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and check the upgrading part T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baelnorn Tomz Tech: And by the way, is there a plugin to go through link in mushclient, just by clicking the link such as in cmud? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean URL links, yes T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: if your using aardmush, right click the link and you'll see goto link for it. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baelnorn Tomz Tech: Thanks, I seen it, but expecting a single click feature... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: chat window has that directly...just click it in there.. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baelnorn Tomz Tech: Okie! Thanks all... It work now... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why would new g+ app have no widget T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: hello, im using blowtorch and just got the quickstab skill on my assassin, so i want to open up fights with backstab, then immediately use circle hoping quick will activate. but when i tried making an aliaas for it "backstab T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: hello, im using blowtorch and just got the quickstab skill on my assassin, so i want to open up fights with backstab, then immediately use circle hoping quick will activate. but when i tried making an aliaas for it "backstab,circle" and target a mob i get backstab who, and then circle activates. Any thoughts would be appreciated T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: backstab requires an argument T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Not always. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: huh. interesting. well, thief will be my last mort, so i don't know much about 'em XD T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: not if your a ninja T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Well, Ninjas can backstab in combat, so backstab goes directly to the mob. ;) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: oh, neat. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: what would i enter to get bs followed by circle? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: for an assassin it does Etzli...so in this case the answer is right T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Oh hush, Immly person. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Styliann giggles. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Don't you have some note to write or something like that? :p T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: im still trying to figure out the alias commands could someone give an example of an argument i could use for staring a backstab alias? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: alias bs backstab * T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Etzli nods at Snewb. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: well nvm, dont even need the wildcard T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Do that MUDside. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Oh wait, hmm. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: anyone know, besides paging, how to prevent disconnection when typing 'who'? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Don't type 'who'? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Lower your pagesize T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Get a better ISP. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: help pagesize T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use mccp T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is there a way to make mush aliases use variables by default or do I have to manually enable them for each one? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. uh..probably not. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but maybe T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure you understand what "use variables" means in this context before you bother with it, though T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you could be wasting your time T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its for using ortal in my area alias's T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: @portal T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How long will it take for 32GB in a computer to go from drastic overkill to barely sufficient? I'm guessing windows 9? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 32GB of what? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: RAM T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: What's she saying is that right now, 32GB in any OS is overkill... not needed. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 32GB is not so much RAM T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for your personal computer? probably not for at least the next 20 years T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: But how long before that 32GB of today becomes the 4GB of today? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: <3 my 2GB T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 4GB is overkill for most people T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have 4GB in my laptop and I never swap at all. Ever. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: >4GB is not much use for personal T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: At one point in time 640k of RAM was more than anyone would ever need T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but for example for databases it allows to keep all database in memory T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: apocryphal T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: I really want that 8.46GHz processor some kid developed. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I was just curious. The computer I'm looking at now has an option for 32 gigs of RAM. I'm probably going to still go with 16 unless the price drops before I order. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I was going to move forward with this soonish, but I think I'm going to get a new car first. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 16GB is a ridiculously large amount T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have 16GB then you can create RAM disk and put swap into it T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a ridiculously large amount *right now*, how about 5 years from now? Software bloat seems to have no limit. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 5 years from now it will still be a ridiculously large amount T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you want to put your money into something that will actually be useful, get a good SSD T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm getting one of those as well T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: save your money on the ram, then T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Eh, the RAM isn't that expensive, really T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 16 isn't, anyway T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'll not find a point in the next 10 years where 16GB becomes significantly useful on your personal computer unless you try to hit limits just because T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But OTOH, if I just get 4 gigs then I stand a very real chance of that not being enough a few years down the road T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you plan to do with your computer? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: just get the low ram, and make sure it can be expanded in the future, if your 5 year scenario does play out. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hell, I don't know. Play games and stuff. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What is your recommendation for an SSD, size-wise? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Mine is 120GB and I don't have a problem with space at all. I'm also not a hoarder. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Probably going to go with an SSD for the OS and a second HDD for storage. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wouldn't T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, will RAID 10 HDD beat RAID 1 SSD ? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: in sound? :) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: I don't think you can have a single drive RAID array T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean 4 HDD: RAID 10 and 2 SSD RAID 1 T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the question is meaningless T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: performance characteristics of drive types depend on the type of reads and writes you want to do T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: RAID is, IIRC, mainly a way to make good use of crappy HDDs. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but in such terms you can say there is no difference between RAID 10 disks and single HDD (in specific conditions) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: RAID 0 can increase speed both read and write T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: striping is not raid. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: RAID 10 can even more increase read speed T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: You keep on saying this word. I do not think it means what you think it means. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: RAID = redundant array of disks (if RAID level > 0 then it is redundant) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: RAID 0 can combine both reads and writes from 2 disks, so theoretically you could get 2x bigger speed T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: striping isn't RAID T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: striping is...AIDs T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dread Lord Morinon snickers softly. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: RAID 10 can combine reads from 4 disks with intelligent controller T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so if I have 4 HDD combined into RAID 10 will they generally be better than 2 SSD combined into RAID 1? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you missed the part where I told you your question is meaningless T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dread Lord Morinon nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ok, let it be databases - you cannot say what data user want to read from database and what they want to save T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: again your question is meaningless T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the answer to your general conundrum is "profile" T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: why isn't my trigger catching my mapper output? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eh? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which output? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: House of Pleasure (Gold Rush) (15029) - 15 rooms away T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because that's not triggerable T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you want to do? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i see... i want to put it in a variable to use in a macro T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what would the macro do? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: how do you unprotect an excel worksheet? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: runto the room T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try "mapper next" T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oh, that works T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you need a password, but assuming you have that, there should be a menu button that goes along those lines. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I forget which tab it's on, though. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i have the password, just can't find the unprotect button :P T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: a screenshot i found online says it's on the review tab, but i don't seem to have one... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: maybe cause i'm using excel starter? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: maybe. Starter sounds suspiciously like learning edition. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: and in O2007, it is definitely on the review tab T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul sighs. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i actually have to buy the full version to be able to use this workbook? that's really stupid T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: learning edition (last time I seen it was in a programming IDE like Visual Basic) had a lot of features disabled. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that's one of the features that shouldn't be... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: did you try opening it with OpenOffice? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, i don't have that T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, according to google you can't unprotect in the starter version T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so dumb T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: maybe, but the idea behind learning/starter is so you learn how to use the app, not get away with using a very cheap/free version. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so before i waste my time downloading openoffice, are you actually sure i'll be able to unprotect it there? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: nope, worth a free shot, tho T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: openoffice says it'll do it starting with v2.0, but I use MS so haven't verified (http://marketing.openoffice.org/2.0/featureguide.html) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cool, thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you're going to get openoffice, you're probably better off with libreoffice instead at this point. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: most developers jumped ship from OO because of Oracle's jackassery T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yep, I use libreoffice now T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shrug, i'm just using it to unprotect my file, then i'll reopen it in excel :P T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: i just protected an Office2007 worksheet, saved it and opened it with OpenOffice and unprotected the sheet. YMMV, good luck. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How much of an effect on things does RAM speed have? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very little T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: E.g. 1333 MHz vs. 1866 MHz T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: You just have to make sure it matches your motherboard T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, I assume it would be configured to match from the factory if I order it with a certain RAM speed T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just wonder what the benefits of 1866MHz RAM is over the cheaper 1333 MHz RAM. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: more Hz T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can probably google up some benchmarks T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it allows for more processor upgrades later T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but by the time you'd want to do that, you'll just get a new machine T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok, last question i hope...where's the unprotect button in openoffice? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: aha, found it T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: thanks for all the help :) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone install windows 7 oem on a mac? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone get windows from like piratebay or anything T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we don't discuss illegal activities here... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SASF ElementPyros Tech: of course not T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what if he bought a copy but just lost it? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: in MUSHclient. i want to make - t * - alias that highlights the *. could you point me to a proper tutorial. it is hard to find :( T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you mean by "highlights"? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: like tt++ higligh T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know what tt++ highlight does T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: like page break line T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: here T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ahh T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure about a straightforward way of doing that from an alias, since it's just a trigger option, but you can add highlights manually if you want T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mhmh. i want to highlight the campaing mob target T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: select the word you want to highlight and right click on it and choose "Highlight word..." or create a trigger with the change color and style section filled in T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'll have to use the createtrigger function T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one second T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rabidrabbit ) thanks a lot! that was exactly what i was looking for :) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Hrmm in Mush, is it possible to add tabs to the communication log so that it breaks it into different channels instead of all the channels getting captured in one window? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=AddTriggerEx T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Rithlin: see: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Creating_multiple_log_windows T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: cool thanks T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Rabidrabbit: see that link about AddTriggerEx T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: diving in.. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Rithlin: the window does not have the ability to do tabs. the best you'll get is multiple windows T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Hrmm nod.. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Guess I'll have to figure out how Bast did his tabs. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: adding tabs to the plugin is possible. I just haven't done it. if you or someone else finds the motivation to do it, send the changes my way T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the first thing I'd do is spin off the text area into something a bit more generic T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: thanks fiendish. i hate such terms like lua, perl, vdmwhatever. your first advice rules :) T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my first advice? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: left-click T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah, right-click T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: oh yeah. the right-click T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that's a bit slow and clunky T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: im too dumb to code T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's probably not true T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: maybe some day .. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why is the Right Ctrl not a Ctrl in Debian? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Because you aren't using a normal keyboard layout? Out of the box, both control keys are identical. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hmm, I have it set as 'Generic 105-key blah.' T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: what X are you using? i think gnome sets it to do something else T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, GNOME. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Have you done any key mapping? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not that I remember, I set the menu key to be Compose, but nothing else. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: I have mine set to US-intl with the AltGr dead keys, but that affects the right-alt (altgr) key, not ctrl keys... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, my bad. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It is the Right Alt key that isn't playing nice. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Somehow I just assumed it was Right-Ctrl. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: What language layout are you using? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I tried to switch workspaces using Ctrl-Alt-Arrow and it works on the left but not on the right. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: USA, English, Generic 104-key T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Right-Ctrl + Left-Alt counts as Ctrl-Alt, but not Left-Ctrl + Right-Alt. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: do you use gnome? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Hrm. It is possible that you have a program running that has tweaked the layout. The standard English layout on GNOME doesn't do anything to AltGr on my system. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: What happens if you type AltGr+c in a text entry box? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: ok you use gnome, there is a keys thing that can make the right alt not work properly T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Doofensmirtz: Huh? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I cause a c code in tintin++ T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: it's like under system pref keyboards layout keys T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: \ec, that is. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And in gnome-terminal Right-Alt + C shows nothing. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: cause gnome is taking it over, i had this issue before, i changed some key option i believe, been awhile sorry T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Doofensmirtz: Some keyboard layouts use the right alt key as AltGr (which is actually what it is anyway)... but the default English layout doesn't make any use of AltGr, and he says he is using the default English layout. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No worries, I've probably had this before too. Just a little annoyed. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Trurien: Try creating a new, empty user account and see if AltGr works like Alt for you in that environment. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: you can use the default layout in gnome but still override certain side alt/ctrl keys T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Trurien: If so, you can at least determine that the change in behavior is coming from your personal configuration settings and not system-wide configuration settings. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I switched to Generic 101-key PC and it seems to work now, 104 and 105 don't. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Let me look at a picture of those layouts to confirm. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: Trurien: Hrm. I wonder if those layouts treat AltGr as its own key, then. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thessel Tech: I was actually impressed at my newest laptop, it labels the AltGr key properly. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: my 2yr old laptop does fine also T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Probably not paying attention to stuff I should be... brain telling me to go sleep I suppose. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which means it's time for me to get another quest to Crynn's and die three times on the battlefield... T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: QUESTION: Is there a port of the old school Transport Tycoon? (NOT TTD)? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does anyone know why chinese simplified characters would all of a sudden show as boxes in windows explorer on windows 7 home? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: they were fine until just this afternoon T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: cause you are in a chinese sleeper cell? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: anyone have any idea? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: still works normally within webpages T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but like the title frame at top of web pages is broken T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and file names are broken T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: have you tried reinstalling the asain font pack for windows? something might have become corrupted. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i never technically installed it but i can't even find where to in regions and languages T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: like it was working correct out of the box and never had to fool with it T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absinthe Tech: What is a good client for mac users? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tt++, tf, and mudlet all run natively T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absinthe Tech: tintin, tinyfugue? T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yes T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient (and probably zmud) will both run in wine T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, zmud runs under wine. T3/r5/2011-11-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absinthe Tech: Okay, thanks, guys! T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demaciado Tech: Trying to figure if I have an AGP or PCI-E graphics slot, anyone know a site that can tell me? Tried a few diagnotics but they are being vague. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Google image search AGP slot, and PCI-E slot, and see which ones looks like the ones you have? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or did you mean other than opening up the case on your computer? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: search for the make and model of your comp? or search the site your comp brand is. ex. sony-search sony's site. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I use Bast's scripts and love them, but which file has the "level reporting" I would love to change the output a bit T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Can anyone lend me some space for a website similar to my current one but better? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Web space that is. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I don't have a credit card so I can't buy it outside of my country, and the ones in my country really suck. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which country? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Estonia. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: why not get a credit card? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Use Google Sites? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I don't work and they cost money. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: get a job, then a card :P T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snewb is agreeing with that Trurien person again... T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: But... I'm allergic to being productive :< T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: Aardwolf is like antihistamine for that T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Google sites only allows templates. Can't upload my own site there I think. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Didn't try that in too much detail, but they seem to allow collection of data, etc... or you could use a Google Doc and a form, shrug. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But of course if you've already got a site working, best to just keep it intact. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: If I use wildcards in mysql search then indexing the fields don't really help me, do they? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the wildcards and the indexes T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're going to index alphabetically, then a %foo% wildcard can't use the index T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: For example field 'name' is indexed. And I use "WHERE name LIKE '%something%'" T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but a foo% wildcard can T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: is a 24 product key invalid if the date of free trys expiers? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat nods at you in agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I see now, thanks. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I'm going to go with indexes then, in case user enters exact match. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in Aard's internal vnum system, which is in the approximate form of name-##, do the numbers necessarily relate to the ordering of any of the other numbering systems used (for example, name-01 = the lowest GMCP roomnum of the area)? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: in mush, on the trigger sequence can you add an exception. say i want a trigger to fire on a letter between a and z, except T. can i do that? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: T is not between a and z T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that said i don't see why an if/or statement would not work T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone know if an OEM edition purchased from like tiger direct would be able to be installed on a mac? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: Window 7 T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: snewb, have you tried looking at the regexp webpage at Gammon's site? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: ok, ill explain it differently, im trying to have a trigger capture on names, but what to exclude mine T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: want to* T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: trying to make a trigger to match clandonations, but though it donates fine, its also donating again because its seeing my name donate T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you can make such an exclusion. In CMud, you would use the carat in a stringlist pattern (ie, {^excluded|included|included|...}). Pretty sure that's based on a similar contruct in regex, but I don't know the specifics. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: might be just as easy or simple to do an if check on that parameter, though. A similar scenario is in effect for the self tell, since you get both the "someone tells you" and the "You tell someone" versions instead of only one or the other. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: anyone familar with regex on mush? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: regex on mush is just standard regex... T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: well is anyone familar with standard regex :P T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: trying to add an exception to a wildcard, but [^Snewb]* is not working, is that not the correct way? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, that means one character that is not an S, n, e, w or b T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there a way to add a excption of a word? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i think there is a way to do it in regex, but the easiest way is probably to just capture the name and check in the code if it's not snewb T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something like if = "Snewb" then .... T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: look at whatever Regex calls a stringlist. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something like if %1 ~= "Snewb" then .... rather T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: and that would still be send to world? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, execute T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: i have: CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT: * has donated *,* gold to the clan. as trigger and: if %1 ~= "Snewb" then clandonate %2%3 as my send, set to send to execute. where am i messing up? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's not a regex T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: sorry, new to all this. can you explain further? and maybe help me to change it to what it needs to be? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try ^CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT: (?!Snewb)(\w+) has donated \d+(,\d+)* gold to the clan.$ T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and make sure you check the regular expression box T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're putting script lines in your send to box, you need to send to script, not send to execute. Execute is just like you type it in the command line T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul raises an eyebrow at Leinei's weird actions. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: He can't put 'if %1 ~= "Snewb"' in send to execute. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes he can T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're confusing execute and world T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but the regex i just posted doesn't need to check if it's him anyway T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've never actually tried it, but I'm pretty sure you can't. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Send to execute is pretty much exactly like if you type it in the command line T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, that's world T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No, world sends it straight to the world, without checking aliases, etc T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: its returning: [string "Trigger: "]:1: 'then' expected near 'clandonate' T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're using Myrkul's, you don't need an if check T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: so it should just be clandonate %2%3? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: my pattern isn't really good for donating the same amount though... T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I *think* you can still do %1 %2, etc. if you're using regex. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not positive, though T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ^CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT: (?!Snewb)\w+ has donated (\d+(?:,\d+)*) gold to the clan.$ is better T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: so that would change my send to: Clandonate %1? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No, I believe %1 would be what's inside the first set of parentheses. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the only capture there is the amount T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I never use %1, %2, etc. if I'm using regex, so not 100% about that. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: ok, so the parentheses are also acting as wildcards T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need to remove the commas though, i'm trying to figure out how... T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Honestly, I'd just use your original capture string, and not use regex T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is the problem you're trying to solve? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: nods, i had it working matching the amount by doing *,* but it was firing on me donating and the was the issue T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And then just put if %1~="Snewb" then Send(clandonate %2%3) end T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in the box, and change send to to script T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: here we go... clandonate string.gsub("%1",",","") should do it T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that won't work on amounts less than 1000 or greater than 999999 though T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Didn't know he wanted it to :P T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: Fiendish, on your mush, is there a way to have the enemy health bar change color if say its under a certain percentage? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no thresholds for enemy health currently. you'd have to add that T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure why you'd want to though T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: to let me know when to terminate T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ahh, interesting T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: toggle the %ages on. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: they are rith T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Snewb: would you mind adding that as a feature request here? https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: sure :) T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does anyone know in what ways I can use some sort of tabs (like browser tabs) in MUSHclient for the same world? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: multiplaying is illegal T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Cool? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is there some other reason you would want to open the same world twice? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cynical thing to say T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: technically not the same world, but as long as you aren't violating the testport policies you could have both the live and the testport aards open together. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's not the same world though T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't want to redirect the same world type. I want to split up the output from one world into multiple tabs. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: hey i was wondering if anyone knew how to create an account on the AardWiki?? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: help wiki, saarnash T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: not sure what I typed in that first sentence T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, and don't forget to write down your info somewhere safe. I made one and then a week later I forgot what my password was. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: thank you much!! T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I want my bluetooth fingerprint reader already! T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: silly passwords T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Basically, I want to send channels to another "tab", but my preferred window size is too small to support those mini-window plugins T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Actually, I think I just answered my own question... if I can toggle the visibility of a mini-window, then it will have the equivalent behavior of tabs T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: yeah, was just going to say you can bring to the front and what not :) T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I think there's also a plugin that adds tabs to miniwindows, increasing your screenspace. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That sounds like something I would like -- I'll look for that. Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saarnash Tech: hmmm. now to think about what to put! lol. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: If I were to resize my windows partition using a liveCD and gparted, should I back stuff up before doing so in case of risk of something getting messed up, or is it a fairly safe procedure? T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'd say it's a fairly safe procedure. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But with data, it's never safe enough. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's fairly safe, but i'd back stuff up anyway :P T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 1 time out of 200 is one time too many. T3/r5/2011-11-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Ha, alright. I should back up anyways anyways so I guess I'll do so first. :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: Is there a LUE or whatnot script that I can add to a trigger to make a popup message window? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: LUA* T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: rhuli: assuming you're using mushclient, check out http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.msgbox T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhuli Tech: thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a way to get a mushtrigger to ignore the first n characters of a line? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud if i have something saved in a database record, and i wanted to add on to it as a list would have to use #additem varDB string @varDB.string|newitem? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am getting a message "Input too long. Truncating". Is this from the mud, or mushclient? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Can anyone copy paste one line of campaign check please? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ^You still have to kill \* (.*) \((.*)\) ... sorry pulled from my script :p T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Thanks. How do you handle this: You still have to kill * the wily little thief (hidden somewhere in the shadows) (Come and Join the C.A.T.S.! (Cougarian Army: Tactical Squad)) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: Get the Mirror Realm mob out of Cougarian Queendom first. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yet again, Dashiell nogs at himself, he must be getting freaky! T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: It was just an example. I know it's wrong mob but still. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yet again, Dashiell snickers softly. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I need to write a php script that captures this properly. :( T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have not had any problems with the regex one i just sent you T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Then you haven't had that mob as cp target :p T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: then once i get it as a mob, ill fix my regex :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: process from right to left T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah I was thinking that. Counting the )'s as +1 and (' as -1 and when it reaches 0 then all that is left of here is mob name. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: That will work until some builder decides to make a room named: "abc (def" T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yet again, Dashiell looks around and whistles innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just tested the thing you gave me You still have to kill * the wily little thief (hidden somewhere in the shadows) (Come and Join the C.A.T.S.! (Cougarian Army: Tactical Squad)) ... it captured nicely in my script :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the thief name is acting like a mobname plus a roomname, and the actual room name is viewed as extra garbage at the end T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yet again, Dashiell is tossing Darkwing Duckbat gquest tokens shouting, "Here Botty Botty Botty!..". T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Dunno doesn't work for me, Hadar. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Using your pattern. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: two separate trigger patterns that separate between the normal and abnormal patterns T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it worked for me then it changed the room name to an mxp link ... so it processed everything correctly ... must have to say, cmud ftw T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: What is the room name? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: extra triggers increases the lag overhead on slower computers - the builder was inspired by microsoft -- force users to upgrade the hardware T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hrmm only pulled half the room name ... to tired to fix it T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I guess I could just ignore it, there aren't many rooms / mobs like this. :( T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a way to make mapper not take me through a particular room? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there a way to toggle the mapper on and off in fiendmush? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: nvm, got it T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: does anyone use LINUX to access this MUD? I have no backspace with tregular telnet in a shell T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes, i use linux but not telnet directly T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: zet: what is a good client? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: much T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mush T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: you can use mushclient running under wine, i use mmucl T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tintin++ or tinyfugue T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: finger fiendish, get his version at his site T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is information on how to run it on Linux using wine too. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm a tintin++ fan myself. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: preiaciate the assistance all that contribed.. goingn to try tintin T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: only one i could gifind in packages T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If you need help with it feel free to send me a tell. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Phaded: I can also pass along the tt++ scripts I was given that take care of a lot of basic needs, mapping, GMCP variable setting, channel capturing, etc. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: this is much better! i like tt. even just for the simple fact of the backspace... now i realize how much i misstpe T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: ixle: that would be appreciated.. how we can xfer that? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: send me a tell with your email, i'll shoot you the .tgz T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I've packaged them all up with a real simple readme T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrfarenheit Tech: what's echo T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: type echo blah T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: its, a, well. echo. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we already stated they fill different roles :-) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might as well get it here now tho ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: be back after gquest! T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swalec's comment was quite valid in the reasons you want to use echo, he just used the wrong words :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that might be because you jumped down my throat before I explained further T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, we knew exctly what you meant...but what you SAID was patently wrong T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You must have a very big throat for Abelinc to fit in there. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: this is the problem with your "I am Abelinc, you are all minnows compared to my genius" approach T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my statement was imprecise as language often is T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and keeping on claiming that we just didn't understand you was further patently WRONG T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about you all go get a coffee T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saying it more times doesn't change it into being correct T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you want me to say "the two forms of echos have different operational semantics" then I could have, but then this would have reduced the readibility another way T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't have different operational semantics, just different uses T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: okay, well, if if makes you happy to think that, then I am sure you're entirely right T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: after all, I am just a minnow compared to your genius T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't worry, I am :-) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: Abe, would you be cool and give us all 2 tps so we can properly wear 'Minnow' as pretitles? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snewb runs away in utter terror! T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at any rate, ixle, operational uses for MUDside scan include easier/more reliable testing of triggers as well as knowing when the MUD is done sending something when that something doesn't have a proper demarc...essentially, you use mudside echo as ad-hoc "tags" for things that don't have tags yet T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That is informative, however doesn't a #show client feature that is triggerable accomplish the same thing? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it accomplishes the first, not the second T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #show wouldn't know when to...show T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: wouldn't echo also require user input? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You would have to trigger or alias the echo's T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo StartThing ; #send foo ; echo EndThing T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all "foo" can be programatically determined to start or end T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this gives you that T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: If you use echocommands you can use #show instead of echo too. Then you know when things are processed at mud side. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah, so the crucial thing it does is provide confirmation that whatever was sent client side has been received and processed by the mud. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timing is the difference T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #show start;who;#show end would end up echoing "start", "end", THEN showing the wholist T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as well as being unusable in timed scripts if you're also typing stuff, because of queued commands T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: but technically you could use any mud command T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #show start T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: #show start;who;emote who done. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: If you want the whole room to know, sure. :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, but then you're back worrying about annoying other people T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not many other commands give just 1 line of output, configurable by you, and silent to the room T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo isn't the only way to accomplish it, but it's definitely the best by those criteria T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for your particular script, you can make it like a channel capture to textfile...then can make a reporthist alias which does "tail -n # filename" when you reporthist #, or "grep foo filename" when you do reporthist foo :-) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although you'd need to echo the timestamps into the recorded lines if you want that to be in the history T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: 10-4 T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I bit back, I did a global search/replace for anywhere I used "gtell" in scripts, and changed them to a client function "/gtell"...then made that function send to either gtell or to echo, depending on whether I wanted to keep gtell clear (raidparty, OC/inferno run, etc) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err a bit back T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I have basically came to the same end result by the same logic. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: My *original* point was that a -h option on echo could be useful, while I acknowledge the redundancy. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I'm writing a php thing and it says: Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by ... it shows this warning but the website works anyway. What's up with that should I suppress this somehow? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just don't see redundancy as an absolute reason not to do something, just a heavy factor to weigh. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Duckbat, you get that message if you try to set a header and you've already sent some output T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah I guess I have to rewrite almost everything. :( T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: board ideas ; note subject personal channel T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, I went to questions first to confirm my suspicion it had been brought up before. I don't believe in redundant idea posts (if i can help it) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Can I somehow ignore this warning? The website works even if I send data and then more header stuff. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo mainly exists for debugging, not as a channel T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use echo as a way of knowing when the mud is finished processing a series of commands T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's really handy for that T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we covered that use, fiendish ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h, ans -h T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and morning :-) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: anyone know how to get zmud to automatically load my zmud mapper file when I open zmud? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: save your layout after you open it T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sacrifice virgins T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: its open, now just save my layout? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: ok let me test T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sacrifice Tiger nuts. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Hi I have a problem. I'm using textarea as input in html form. And input is for example "Sen'narre Lake" but it becomes "Sen\'narre Lake" automatically. How do I make it so it doesn't have a \ there. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Html POST form. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: You should turn off magic quotes (Google on how to do that) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I can't do that. I don't have access to php.ini T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you write a function to unescape them at the other end? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (probably is a stock one somewhere) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Tigernuts. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: That's the next best solution T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ok I found a function for it in google. Thanks guys. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: If anyone else can help me, I uploaded a new website to: http://80.79.120.195/~duckbatc/index.php just run some searches and test it out if you can find any mistakes or errors. Thanks. :) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: How do I match everything except a space in regex? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: [^ ] T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: \\S T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Thanks. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: tigernuts' works for all whitespace T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how do i make mush triggers see the * as a character as opposed to a variable string? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: \* T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know if its possible in cmud to check to see if something is true between a set of numbers? i tried #if (<1000 &&& >100) but it did not work T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not sure on cmud's syntax, but have you tried && or the keyword AND? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i used && still half asleep and just noticed mistake T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: both of those work, tiger T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: if you have no idea how to do it, why not nested if? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but you need something on the other side of the < and > operators T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there is %1 i forgot to tilde them T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: 1000 > x < 1010 T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that definitely doesn't work :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: reverse those T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try and then, hadar, but && should work too... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it only works somewhat, 99% of the time it matches correctly but the other 1% of the time it matches something i dont want it to match T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: use nested if that way it will never hit anything that you dont want to T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: still did not work the way i wanted it to :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you testing 1 number too low then perhaps? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you are testing up to 999 now :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i do my greater then check, then i do my less than check, and a number i dont want still pops in there T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't know of any language other than MATH that lets you use a < b < c as a valid condition syntax. You have to break them up into two binary operations with a logical operator (ie a > b and b < c) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and it's integer and not string you are testing? :) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: from the script itsself :P worked with 2663 T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a way for triggers to ignore the first n characters of a line? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what client? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mush T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: regexp T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ^.{n} T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: make sure to use parentheses Hadar. "a < b and b < c" will probably try to evaluate a < b, then result of that AND b, and then b < c. Basically, the order of execution is not guaranteed without parentheses. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i've never needed to do that, and has lower precedence afaik T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but worth a shot i guess T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I had that happen a long time ago, couldn't figure out why CMud was saying 0 < 8 < 7 was true. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: #if (%2>"1000") {#if (%2<"2000") {#echo worked with %2}} ... thats the code im using T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why the quotes? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no need to use nested ifs T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: quotes might be your problem T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i changed it from an and to nested to test it out T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: with quotes it's string :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yeah, quotes turn everything into a string, so you're actually not evaluating against the number 2000 but the string equivalent. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: damn i have always used quotes stupid habit T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: [06 Nov 13:28:53] Slodhian Tech: and it's integer and not string you are testing? :) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Slodhian P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i did not know quotes turned it into a string :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they weren't in your original post... :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: actually it's normal to miss it.. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: true, but I would have bet if Hadar had answered you he would've said yes. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's why posting problem code is so important, because there might be some unrelated (and probably simple) error causing your woes. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bah, why is it every time mozilla release a new version of their browser, it comes with new bugs? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like most versions of softwares. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, but something as fundamental as background-repeat: no-repeat;? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Probably due to them making so many releases so quick...before the latest one, flash used to crash regularly, with the latest one flash crashes the whole browser instead, progress :( T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wait till it crashes the computer. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Probably only a matter of time T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, just annoyed at the number of hoops to go through just to get a bloody background picture displayed that scales properly with window resizing T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'd switch to opera but it doesn't run on one of my machines, I think it's due to it having a via cpu T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: more likely it's just opera is poo T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Could be T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: you could always give maxthon a try. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd sooner slit my wrists T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyhew, it'll do for now T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not heard of that one...is it a windows one or does it support other platforms? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: To answer my own question...doesn't run on linux so that's a non-starter really, won't run on 2 of my machines T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if a page doesn't correctly display on firefox, then rewrite the page T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ditto ie8 T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have a pc with intel i7-2600 cpu. If I want to run Linux is there any special version I need for that processor? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: redhat 3 T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: linux isn't as picky as it use to be... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: ubuntu is good... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: windows xp is better T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok I have ubunto and opensuse here T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ubuntu T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: ubuntu is easy, but far from good T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: i guess it just depends how "techie" you want to be with Linux... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: pretty techie if possible T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ok gonna try to install opensuse then T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Anyone with experience running Windows 7 32-bit with only a gig of ram? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: add more ram T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: That wasn't my question but okay.. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you didn't really ask a question T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the question? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: is there a way do disable f1 as the helpfile shortcut? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHLcinet? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: yes, sorry T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10712 T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file - T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> global prefs T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: General tab, f1,f6 are macros T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sorry, file ->global prefs -> click the box. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: awesome, thanks guys T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fyi: tinyurl.com/aardclientfaq#How_do_I_disable_F1_as_being_the_help_macro? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin snickers with Mendaloth about their shared secret. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: how would i go about creating a series of attacks against a mob, would that be macros and can i assign the mob name to a variable and then use that variable in the script? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: i'm using the mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't bother with the mobname as variable T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use it as argument T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that it's dangerous to do something like that, since when you start the combat, you owuldn't be able to flee and wimpy wouldn't likely help... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: so am i correct in studying macro use for this? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd use alias, not macro T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something like an alias of "nuke *" with the action of "FirstAttack %1" "SecondAttack" "ThirdAttack", etc T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Using a tick timer that executed a variable that changed as you fought would work too. That would let you set an interval and prevent stacking of commands and loss of control. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a tick timer...so you're going to attack every 30 seconds? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: botting, whee! T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: 30 doesn't seem practical, in a fight it would probably be 3 seconds or so. That's what I've approximated my warrior melee attack lag rounds to be. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I would say you would have to be careful with something like that to keep it from being illegal though. Such as not allow it to attack a mob, or run when in a room with an aggro right? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Any have any idea why data transfer between two computers via ethernet would be at only 1MB/s? Was going much faster earlier. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a tick timer is 30 secs, hence my query to your suggestion :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: cord damaged since then? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Earlier being like, 5-10 minutes. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Most mud timers are referred to as "tick timers no? Either way I just meant the client function to execute a command every seconds T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: how would i feed an argument to a command and then assign that argument to a variable to be called later? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a timer != a tick timer...but yes, standard combat round is 3 secs T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no ixle, most timers aren't referred to as tick timers T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: as you wish, that's not really the point :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Was I correct about the legality borderlines? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a series of attacks on command, nothing illegal about it T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use a "/nuke" alias, but I know my targets T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I mean a "timer" based attack. It becomes illegal when it would engage a mob or be active in a room with aggros correct? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the subsequent attacks don't use a target T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: attack ; attack ; attack ; attack T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, the first line is the part that will be illegal if done via a timer instead of human input correct? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sixfour Tech: easy enough thanks T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just being afk in the room with the aggros can become illegal, even without scripts running T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the timer would never be for the first part...the timer is just to make the other ones not stacked T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sixfour: I have a alias set on this: ^\@(.*?) \= (.*?)$ then it does this: SetVariable("%1", "%2");print("Variable '%1' is now set to '%2'") T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: attack ; attack ; attack ; attack T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so I can type: arname = value and it sets that value into that variable T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well my timer only executes if I'm in combat, and I do all engaging manually since that was my understanding of legality. I'm just trying to confirm that notion. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: so I can type: @varname = value and it sets that value into that variable T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I absoutely would *NOT* do what it sounds like you do T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: personally i use an alias "kill" that i have made to set if its set as a spell to cast, and if its a skill just sends it to the mud, i then hit enter one a round :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "if I'm in combat" is NOT the same as "I typed this" T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Ixle, if you walked away from the computer, would it contine? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well, for safety sake let's say this is all hypothetical. I engage a mob, a timer goess off every 3 seconds to check my gmcp/char/status/state and sends an attack commnd (such as stun) if state==8 T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I would never condone that T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: your botting combat. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: Ixle can you answer this question, if a fire were to happen in the kitchen if you were to step away to put it out would your timer still kill the mob T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hadar... melee would, thats automatic T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats why i asked if his timer would :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: theoretically my timer would still send a set variable something like stun/bash/etc T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I think a better question would be 'after you've killed the mob, if Lasher ported you to a room with an aggro mob in it to see if you were botting, would your skills be firing on that mob he ported you to?' T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: i think the main point is that his kitchen is on fire... but thats just me T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's automatically performing manual attacks without any input T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: A real mudder would let it burn T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruthless Ross nods at Rexyl. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: especially during double. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and it would, so you'd get nuked. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: pft who needs a kitchen T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: As long as the router is not in the kitchen T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: The microwave should be in your room next to your computer anyway T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: lol hope you wouldn't nuke your hdd. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I was under the impression so long as I was at the keys a bot to automate combat (but not engaging) was legal. But if I stepped away from the computer I had to turn it all off. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: mom! bathroom! T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my router is built into my microwave, which is next to the fridge i have next to my computer T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: being at the keys makes very little difference in whether something is legal T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nope. no no no. botting at the keyvoard is still botting, and nukeable. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's likely an atom this side of legal as stated...(1) you're not playing the game, so why bother, (2) people who claim being that close to the line rarely are only that close T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But I am playing the game T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Not if your scripts are doing it for you. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: If you have something that stops at the end of combat (say, quaffing a potion when you're below a certain amount), you're not going to get in trouble for it as long as you never, ever step away from your computer when you're in a room that an aggro mob might repop/wander in. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: But it's kind of hard to ensure that T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: or you get setwanted and attacked, etc. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Obviously my aim is to stay well within the guidelines, not on or over the line. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's why I'm so curious T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: It's fine unless and until you end up in a fight when you're not at the keyboard. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Which is probably going to happen at some point T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Not from what others have said madcatz. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to be that curious, just actually play the game yourself T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: By their reasoning, you'd also get nuked for having a trigger that rewields after you get disarmed ;) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: bottings bad, M'Kay? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: My bot would not do anything that wouldn't happen normally, just faster. As someone else stated my melee would kill the mob were I afk just like the stun commands are. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I use the word "bot" very loosely. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's no faster T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I enjoy aardwolf enough to hit enter every 3 seconds if i have to. I just want to be clear on if I have to. From what able and cera have said it's 100percent illegal. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not quite what I said T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: in this case, I'd take the imm's word on it T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: just set up an alias that sends your current attack command like 4 or 5 times in a row. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can I make a bot that sit's in an area and broadcasts to my clan who enters the area while I'm afk? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh madcatz is an imm. Sorry was ignorant of that. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and hit that as needed. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I stated it was legal, actually :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You said I was botting and wouldn't condone it. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Pretty sure you already given an answer about that, Kojiro. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well I was told yes at first, then no given a different set of cirucmstances than what I just described T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: And if you got a different answer when you gave a different set of circumstances, then what's the problem? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read my statements more carefully T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: as long as it's a PK room Kojiro. :p T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: there wouldn't be a problem, I'd just be smarter T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the one you go afk in i mean T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: someone could always setwant and clear me out *shurg* T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: [06 Nov 22:13:41] Abelinc Tech: I absoutely would *NOT* do what it sounds like you do T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Neither would I T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle boggles at the concept. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I stand by that fully T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [06 Nov 22:20:29] Abelinc Tech: it's likely an atom this side of legal as stated... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Neither of you condone or recommend it but also agree that it's legal!? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: He said it's too close for comfort. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Pretty much T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Heck, I've probably been in half a dozen fights (including one PK) in which I haven't been at the keyboard or in this window. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, I don't condone it, you are botting, but what you stated is legal T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Haven't meant to, but it happens. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wow, that was a long conversation just to get a yes, you're correct :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but ti's still against the rules? I mean that could be construed as botting, I thought. Actually WOULD be construed under the rules? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: Wait, legal botting!? Is the mud going to implode!? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And I still feel confused... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: I doubt you can ensure that those triggers will never, ever fire while you're not at the keyboard. Thus, I wouldn't recommend them or use them myself. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there are legal bots, snewb T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: That's basically my point. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my first PK, I was afk in the first room of dark elf, some dohbie attacked me & got vorpalled ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just cuz it's legal doesn't mean it's right or to be condoned T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: think of it like this ixle.... if you have to ask, dont do it. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: I got setwanted while afk once. Never did figure out the why of that one. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't condone 1/2 of winklewinkle's crap either T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok, then I think I fully understand. It's technically legal but very dangerous if you aren't personally responsible of it. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Then I got the rule changed so that you can't setwanted afk people T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fuzzy Madcatz looks around and whistles innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I also believe you're running an illegal bot T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: my bot never works, i make sure of it T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disdain Tech: I avoid botting by never using a trigger of any kind :) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if you want to have a couple of attacks, you can stack up a couple of attacks, that is fine and simpler than a timer T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Ranrr. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Can even have your F1 button send 4 or 5 attack spells to the mud. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Or whatever T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: ^ i do exactly that :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i just type kill and push enter 3/4 times :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def nuke = st %; im %1 %; l %; /multi 5 mi T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: My nuke command does something totally different T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav snickers with Fuzzy Madcatz about their shared secret. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera shudders in disgust at Fuzzy Madcatz! T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Doesn't that method technically violate the "house on fire" test as well though? Your stacked commands would fire while you're saving your cat. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not exactly the social Iwas looking for T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: #if (~%ismember(@killspell,@allspells)) {#send c '@killspell' ~%1} {#if (~%ismember(@killspell,@allskills)) {#send @killspell ~%1} T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, my commands end in 6 attacks, yours don't T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: They'd stop after a few seconds. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Mine would end after the mob died, relatively about the same time depending on mob T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, not quite T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: No one cares if you're watching a movie while you're leveling, as long as you're not just hitting one button every 5 minutes that runs a loop that clears out 17 rooms. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: But yours would keep going if the room you were in was room in which aggro mobs repopped in or wandered into. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: for minutes, hours, days, weeks, whatever T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yes, I qualified that in my original statements about the timer *not* engaging mobs or being run in a room with aggros. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I explicitly engage every mob manually. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: me too, i'm old school can't keep up with these wizbang technogeeks T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyway that answers that question. Let me go a step further though madcatz. If an imm transferred me to a room with an aggro or forced me to engage a mob and my timer went off, but I was at keys. That would "not" be an infraction? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my client's older than 'em all :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: So if your goldfish is on fire and you're fighting an aggro mob, you're going to finish the mob off and walk out of the room before using the fire extinguisher on your goldfish? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Or your house, whatever T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No, I'm going to kill the client, throw the computer, or suffer the consequences, relative in comparison to life and death. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If his goldfish was on fire, he'd probably film it and put it on Youtube... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how exactly would a goldfish, in water, catch fire? (*p[onders*) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: goldfish on fire...can't say i've ever heard that one before :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i want an on fire goldfish, that would be amazing T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If your goldfish is on fire, you've likely got more serious problem in your life than being nuked on some online game. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: He obviously meant the crackers. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I would have to save my goldfish snacks first. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Bad can of worms you opened there, Madcatz :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: lol trurien T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ah, the crackers. it all makes sense now. (not) T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: They're quite flammabable, but I digress. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ok fine no gold fish, if your mad cat was on fire :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I accept the personal responsibility of my settings so long as they're not illegal. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I always believed in trigger abuse as the school of hard knocks too. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's why I only use something I understand completely and can manage. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: On a slightly related note, room finding of mobs with a mapper is fine so long as you manually engage them right? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: In a campaign/quest/gquest T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats how i find my cp/gq/Q mobs :P T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: My map is allowed to get me to the room so long as I do the engaging? T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HelperMan Hadar nods. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: the official mapper has a find room feature, so I'd say so T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's the whole point of the mapper, to get you to rooms... T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah well I was rereading help bot and trying to think of it in the strictest terms. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: strictest terms = use telnet T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle smirks. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: better to think losely... err on the side of caution. T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, needing to keep asking about the exact lines being drawn is far from thinking in the strictest terms T3/r5/2011-11-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I formed what I thought was an informed understanding after reading the helpfiels. However, I misunderstood your disuading as pronouncement of illegality. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: anyone know if the mush mapper automatically accounts for tiers when entering a portal level into it? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: it does T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: it does T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ty T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: yes it does T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin goes, "Heh." T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: If I set gmcp module char.base 1 but char itself as 0 then only char.base gmcp data will be sent and not char.vitals for example? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ok I'll assume so then. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: DAMMIT GMAIL! Did you learn NOTHING from the Facebook Failure of '11 ? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What now? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: "New Look for gMail" - opt in for now, auto switch in 1-2 weeks T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I gather so far is "Replace my handy text labels with confusing non-standard icons, presumably like google+" T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Mouse-over shows the text on google. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Except I'm not on + and have no freakin idea what they mean...have to wait for the tooltip T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Although I'm with you. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, hover-for-otherwise-hidden folders, so they can push the 'chat' I think 1% of users have ever touched T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: though a 15 tp portal to Sendhia permits removing several triggers that do the run parameter calculations -- less triggers translates to less lag T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You mean GMail chat? People around me use it all the time. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thanks for sharing your feedback. Although we're not able to respond individually, we will take your comments into account as we work to improve Google products. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In other words, thank you for venting - noone will read this T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: any program out there that can run a ... smooth and at least somewhat lag free break test on memory while loggin what stacks and values are at when they pass thru specific op code? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here savvy with mush? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: steinberg, one of the biggest audio software providers in the world, you'd think T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then oen would wonder why, in the name of all that is holy, does the mother frecking software support saving as an mp3? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: right, time to go download a ripped off copy of wavelab 6 then, since they ripped me off with this heap of crap T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: my network is failing! T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is there a way to make metacity workspace switching wrap around without installing compiz? It seems the developers didn't want this, from the thread I found... T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: anyone know of a website where I can download "free" ebooks for my MOBILE PHONE? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: google books, gutenberg.org T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doofensmirtz Tech: kindle has free books like sherlock holmes and stuff T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: stevegutenberg.org T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we'll only discuss free ebooks, not "free" ebooks :-) T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin goes, "Heh." T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: nothing is truly free T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's one opinion T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: internet download-wise T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: if a website offers a "free" product or service, more often then not, YOU become their product or service. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or, I just get a free product or service :-) T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: anyone know why my capacitor keeps blowing in my circuit? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: too many jiggawatts T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Need more plutonium. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I'm sure that in 1985 plutonium is available in every corner drugstore, but in 1955 it's a little hard to come by. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone on here downloaded or tried to download like windows 7 from an iso site? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not really a question T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: to my understanding if say 131 is in the keyword of an item..you should be able to type get or put 131 and it should key on that item..? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yes, although "131" by itself will never be a keyword. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or *should* never be, at least T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And actually, I'm not even sure about the "yes" answer T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: nods..that seems to be the case ...but why is 71 a keyword ..messing with moving gear around by level. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 71leg or 71eq is fine as a keyword, 71 isn't. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: 71 removes puts gets A thick wad of jumbo post-it notes. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: That item doesn't have 71 as a keyword by itself. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: same for lapel pin camera..using get 71 will get that item. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: i found a nice bag sorter plugin for mushclient that also gets & puts from the bag. want a link? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: If it has 71foo as a keyword, then 'wear 71' and 'remove 71', etc. will work on the item T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Just like if it has foobar as a keyword, 'wear foo' will work T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: nods..that is why I'm confused why the 71 works for the level 71 gear I have ..but 131 doesn't even thought 131 is in the keywords list. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: That's why 131 shouldn't be a keyword :P T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: example.. printer bearing keywords are ..: printer bearing gaardian131 T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: You can't use 'get 131' for that T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: since it's at the end of the keyword. it wont work T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: 131 isn't an abbreviation of any keyword T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: ahh..ok..got ya..at the end is the diff. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I really wish there was a protocol for open clan eq that required the level. Get all.91 (for example) always working would be so nice. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: nods..that's what I was working toward ..and ran into this..just seemed odd..but if it being at the end is the problem..at least it's an answer to why it wasn't working..and I can sleep at night now :)..thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: You can finger me for something that'll let you get all level 91 items from a bag. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Although if you have prompts off, it needs some modifications. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: That I never got around to making myself T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: just such a workaround when this is what keywords were meant for :P T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Shrugs, clans can have whatever keywords on items that they want to, as long as they follow the eq rules. You can always add keywords yourself for a trivia point, if you'd like. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: And there's a way built into the game to do it, anyways T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: with invdata T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Attikus Tech: hehe..I'll just alias on Id and save the trivia points for those pieces that have level at the end :).. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: also even if clans added keywords, some gameload items are better so would you extend it to all items gamewide? which then has issues where you have items that load within a level range rather than a fixed level T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Also, objlower :P T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: And enchant weapon/armor T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: I am trying to crate aliases for running to an area using mapper. I am using mush-aard. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: however when i type in the alias it appears that the resulting input isnt going to mapper, and I get a response that that isn't a command T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: how do I get the alias output to go to the mapper plugin T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: try changing where the command is sent...instead of sending to world, send to execute T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: ok, thank you T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: that worked T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: Is there a way to program custom exits into mapper so that goto commands will work? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: just goto the room that the custom exits lead to T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: help mapper and check the cexit part T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Go to where the custom exit is then do mapper cexit command (where command is the command you use to enter the portal) then wait a second or so for the message that it's done T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You can also use mapper cexit to open doors automatically, with commands like 'mapper cexit open n(2 semicolons)n'. It needs 2 semicolons otherwise it doesn't work. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and it's all in help mapper T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: not semicolons, necesarily. it uses your line break char T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: actually mapper help :D T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: portals, however, use semicolons regardless of your line break char T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why doesn't gclan have channel tags around it? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone able to recommend a nice brand for a gaming computer? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: alienware if you got the money T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Leasure suit Larry..... T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bornari Tech: i just built my own, if you can do it, it's half the price of alienware T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snewb is agreeing with that Bornari person again... T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: Dude. You're getting a Dell! T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: use e-machines T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i never built a pc, but alienware is a bit much for my blood, just dont wanna spend the money for it T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alienware is dell, so yup T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i see tiger direct has all those diy kits though so i doubt it is hard T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bornari Tech: what's your high end? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: alienware is over rated lol T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: about 1k fully decked including monitor T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: what are you wanting to play and at how many fps? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: star wars and gw2 T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: gw2? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: and aard T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: guild wars 2 T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Aard has quite high fps. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin goes, "Heh." T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: i get 70fps on aard T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: aard is my highest fps game ^^ :P T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It should be.. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have high faps per second on aard T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: thats the joke.. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: and skyrim too, im trying to convert from console to pc since i have to get windows anyways for star wars T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i see alot of these cybermachines or something T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bornari Tech: you might want to price out the parts from newegg and pricewatch to see, i'm not quite sure what 1k will get you, but i only spent 2k for liquid cooling and two gfx cards T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: for 2k i would buy a power pole for my skiff T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: my desktop was 179 dollars from tiger direct, played WoW at 60fps with medium graphics. just have to watch for good refurbs T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: 1k should get a pretty good machine but probably not something to brag about type machine T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: With 2k I would let it ride on black on the roulette wheel. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any machine can be something to brag about. :) T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're still using a 166 MHz DEC Alpha with 64 Megs of RAM to play aard :-) T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Case in point. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: nice T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: hehe T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: With a dial-up connection... T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i dont need anything super or anything, i dont play all that much, just siomething decent, i figure i would buy on black friday and look on like tiger and newegg and just buy the best looking sewtup T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, have a pretty good DSL connection...the alpha used to route my ISDN connection back when I ran MUDs tho T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any you guys did these tigerdirect kits before? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: i got a computer post-lease, and like i said 179 bucks was hard to beat T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: nope. started specing one out and found a gateway cheaper than the pieceparts. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I think I might have a long time ago. Pretty sure I forgot to hook something up, though, since I never did have a beep bell on it. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is it standard on most new towers to have wireless wifi on em, or are they all still ethernet only? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Not sure if it's standard, but it's definitely becoming more common. Not sure why anyone would want wifi on a desktop though T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bornari Tech: think it's non-standard still, but a usb-wifi card thing is only 20 bucks or so T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: less wires to tangle up T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: wires are ugly, of course. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: apartment at school where they all use wireless T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik boggles at the concept. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I like wires. T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: but u can buy somethign that makes it wireless quite easily? T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: yes, wireless cards are pretty cheap T3/r5/2011-11-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: big difference between an intel system and an amd system? T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Does anybody know how to scan a document into a word format? I just got about 25 pages of notes from my professor, and I'm blind. He can't email them to me, so I'm kind of stuck. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: OCR is going to be like the drunkard on mafia though.. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You can't really-- you can recognize the text with OCR in pdf form though and have that read T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: an OCR would work well if it's typed T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Is OCR free by any chance? T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: there are free sources T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: There are pdf applications that can do it T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There should be free OCRs, yes. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: Microsoft One Note has a Copy Text from Picture function T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Has anyone here tried the new Fedora 16 yet? I tried it out earlier and a lot of the text and icons are garbled in gnome. Any ideas? T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nope, sorry. Haven't used Fedora in a while. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Probably a bit optimistic trying it on the day it's released. Good thing it comes as a live CD so at least I've not had to install it to find out it's broken on my machine. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't quite like the Android client, because it doesn't hide your password :P T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: and you really think anybody would want to steal youe password for a mud? T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's a matter of principle. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if they really want your password, they'd probably just steal your phone. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: i would be cautious with most passwords, but my mud password i could give to 99,9% of earthpeople and 99% wouldn't even know what it is for :) T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's the 0.1% that matters. :) T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: do you really think those people steal your mobile or spy it out? T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Does anyone know of a way to send a 'dummy' entry through a VBA/SQL combination to make the entry report it's value each time it changes location? I have a loss of entry data somewhere at work, and I can't seem to determine where it's missing. T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: anyone here knows about connecting transformers? T3/r5/2011-11-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: have the allspark handy? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: are there any easy ways to change gpus firmware default voltage? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I think it depends on the gpu. I did it on my 8800gt with nibitor T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: evga gtx 580. the 3gigs gddr 5 version T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: they had a recent firmware update but my gpu is still flunky on default voltage T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: dx11 gets boggled on drivers unless i bump voltage up T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: don't know about the particular model, but nibitor would likely be the tool for the job T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: default is something around 1013 mV... need 1140-1150max T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thanks for heads up T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: wish evga would make ocing software on par with their hardware -_- T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: How do I remove an extra prompt when I'm walking? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: I see three prompts when I go from room to room. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there a big difference in amd cores vs intel cores? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the boxes they come in? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: or anyone have a good site i can go to for info on buying a gaming pc? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i always used Times Hardware to get an idea of what graphics card i was after T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Attack Vector Tech: used to be the floating point, not sure there is one any more T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^Toms Hardware T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok ill google toms hardware T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: just trying to buy one here and wanna make the right choice T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: from experience 99 times outta 100 you wont notice a difference between intel and amd.. but every now and then you'll find a processor specific bug T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: "The Register" is also pretty good one comparing brands and models i think T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok cool, some gaming ones seem to have like an amd with more ram other have intel with les ram, things like that. Is there like rules when buying a new gaming pc? kinda like rules for buying a diamon?.. 4c's, is there like go processer speed, then graphics, then chip, then monitor or something like that? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: i'd say graphics card primary T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then processor .. lotsa ram (it's cheap)... and do yourself a favoutr.. get an SSD to boot/run your OS from T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: even a 30GB SSD will be big enough to boot win 7 T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone own a cyberpower pc T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I had to replace the PSU it came with about 3 weeks after buying it, otherwise runs great. no bloat. runs a bit loud, but it's an open case T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: runs a bit load -- the electricity bill is likely higher each month T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok so cyberpower is out! T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i really think I wanna build my own, its hard googling for tips on building your own pc like the step by step walkthrough! T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: and if u need like specific tools and shit T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why would you want to build you own pc? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: Why not? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: I've found building my own to be fun, and sometimes less expensive. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, if you construct something new like 8 CPU Z80 it can be fun T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but just building from parts? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Zilog 80 - a snail PC T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you can go really multiprocessor! T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in slow motion T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for fun, if you need PC for work you buy DELL workstation with 5 years warranty NBD T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anotherguy Tech: uh. ya no. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: whats the point of adding a ssd HD to a new computer? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: instead of just more regular memory on the normal HD T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: SSD's have faster access time than HDD's T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Stuff loads faster T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: so a small ssd would be nice then i guess? if u do add one to a customer build T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I read that if you get one, you should get one that supports SATA-3 because SSD's can easily saturate SATA-2 T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: When I get my new system, it will have a 120GB SSD and a larger secondary HDD for general storage T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Can anyone who knows javascript write something for me? I'll pay with gold. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: hello im using blowtorch and was womdering is there a way to keep my prompt at the bottom of the screen, ive got it set up but having it scroll with every message, is really distracting T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try a pc with a client, blowtorches tend to set fire to things T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see if you like it better using the full screen editor for your input... T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: ok, ill give it a shot, havent tried the edidor yet. thx T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: Is there an easy way to shorten the GMCP Mapper commands. For example, be able to type "mgoto 32424" as opposed to "mapper goto 32424"? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: make an mgoto alias that does mapper goto, and make it send to execute T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: you can do that with a simple alias T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: When i simply create an alias it says I cannot do that. When I create the alias in the client it doesnt trigger with the room number after it. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: put {} around your alias name and the alias T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: are you passing on the parameters? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: I don't know how to pass parameters in an alias. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anything you type after the alias name can be referenced in the alias with %1, %2, etc T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: alisas mgoto * mapper goto %1 T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: what do you mean when is says "you can't do that"..is that from client or aardwolf? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ok, just copy what gorsk said T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: if you want a simple one, make the alias 'mgo *' and in the send box put 'mapper goto %1' then change send to world to execute. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: as what gorsk said will work, IF sent to execute instead of world T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: oh someone beat me to it... damn my slow typing. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul sighs. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cronu Tech: Thank you all for your help. T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: how do you restore your backup in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: mapper backup T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: oh my bad manually T3/r5/2011-11-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: should be in the db_backups folder T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sahalo Tech: anyone know where the data for "mapper portals" is saved on my computer? i want to do a "mapper purge portals" but wish to save the list. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's in the aardwolf.db file T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: guys anyone maybe can help me with mush problem T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: why doesn't it start at my work computer? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i got the error "unable to open database file" , maybe someone knows how to fix that? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: anybody there? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Don't ask like that. Say exactly what error you get and maybe someone will know. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: What's the protocol called that adds all this data to my prompts/commands, Clike "{/helpbody} ... {/help}" etc? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: tags? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: No, MXPP or something like that? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: gcmp i think T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: MCCP! T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: THanks. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: oh. no, that's not what makes tags T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MCCP doesn't do that...that is tags... T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: Then it's MXP? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: hi T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: mccp is a compression thing, saves bandwidth T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: the {tags} don't use any special protocol, they're just text T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what is the featrue of aardwolf.db T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MCCP is a protocol which sends data, aiding in compression T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: aardwolf.db stores the mapper info T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The {...} stuff is a tag - help tags for more info T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: What's the recommended client to use for Mac OS X? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: can i use other db tool open the aardwolf.db T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: guys tell me how to fix the problem with mush , when i try to start it it says "Error was unable to open database file" T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: it's an sqlite3 db, use something like sqlitebrowser T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can use sqllite for firefox, but remember not to mess with anything until you know what it does T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sqlite* - added an l T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: it works okay at home , but at work i get that error.. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The db file locations are stored as hard copy - are you running off a usb drive? Those are assigned a drive path when you plug them in T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: MS Vista and above have problems with permissions ass i recall T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: MS Vista and above have problems with permissions as i recall T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i run it from hard drive T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: also it say check you have write access to that file? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Check you are running MUSH as admin - it needs read and write access to the db file which Vista and 7 restrict it from T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Risca Tech: how did you install at work? did you do a clean install or just copy the folder from home? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: a clean install T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i run the exe file as administrator, but i still get the eror T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can run the program as admin under a normal user account by right-clicking the exe file and selecting Compatibility T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (under properties) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i did that T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: does not help T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Have you tried updating recently? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: how can i , if i cant run it? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is an external update T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: even as administrator you still get write problems to the program directories under VIsta and 7, check that T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Download the top file from here - https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: if you haven't tried already, install to somewhere other than Program Files. I seem to recall UAC being an issue even when running as admin inside that folder T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, root ftw - I have a MUSH and sundry drive T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: its installed not in the program files T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: and btw i just unrar it T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Get that file I gave you, replace the whole dir with that - backup your db and world (.mcl) files first T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i dont have them , because i never run a mush on this computer T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So just whack in a completely fresh install then, it should fix all of the issues you have atm T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: it worked T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: ty guys T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When in doubt, burn everything, clean install T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Some men just want to watch the world burn. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know why in microsoft word 2010, a chart is assuming a blank cell to be 0? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: Does scripts from MUSH work on Mudlet? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: Do* T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: whats a cd code for a game call of duty game of the year T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there sodering involved nowadays when it comes to assembling a new computer? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: no. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Depends on what you mean by "assembling" T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hell, half the time there's not even a screwdriver involved anymore T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means using a "kit" T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon grins evilly at you. Hmmm. Better keep your distance. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or parting out computers T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: He didn't specify that ;) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: Just make sure you have your static-strap. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok cool, i finally finished the specs on a gaming computer and im excited, picked everything else:) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an old conversation T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking for a gaming computer to use next to his Mac T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: can u see if im missing anything? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2hgs T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: sound? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: sound is supposed to be on the mother board T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: sound and a network card for ethernet stuff supposedly T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hey! your'e getting the OCZ SSD drive.. good for you! T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: If im not planning on having any pictures/videos/movies or anything on this new pc, can i just get one like 128 gig SSD? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tested 100% liquid metal alloy thermal paste. so far so good T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: arctic whatever? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cool laboratory liquid pro T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: first time i removed my new cooler to apply new thermal compound and discovered that i'm only getting ca 50% contact T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nevertheless, my E8400 ambient is 30 degrees C right now. max was 50 under 100% load T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lapping the ihs and cooler base tomorrow. it's going to be coooooool T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (arctic freezer pro 7) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you looking to overclock it? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: sweet T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: should get 4GHz easily T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but have to lap first because it's /very/ uneven atm T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but pretty impressive results with such a bad contact T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the syringe was only 11 euros and it's enough for many years and heatsinks T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pita to get it off the floor tho T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and clothes and hands T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.coollaboratory.com/en/products/liquid-pro/ T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check the installation vid. it's very weird to spread it since it doesn't stick to the ihs T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hope you have a copper heatsink T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: arctic freezer pro 7 T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the heatsink base is quite curved tho. didn't notice it when i installed it, but it was pretty evident when i took it off and saw the old ceramic paste prints on it T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: Anyone using Mudlet and MAG? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not anymore, but I used to T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: My status area window doesn't update, only shows location of first room when I start Mudlet. How can I update it? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: shut down and restart it? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: Doesn't work. :/ T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: have you tried to shut down and delete it? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: just kidding. :P T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: does microsoft still sell a windows 7 family pack? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i didnt know they did T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: or does the oem copy come with 2 or 3 licenses? anyone knpw? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im sure its in the eula T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I think XP might've been the last one on the one-disk-with-many-licenses scheme. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: people got really peeved at them about the change, too, since it costs every time you call the help center. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so, some genius decided to name a field order in the table i'm working with (mysql database) and i can't select from it because order is an sql keyword...is there a workaround for this, besides renaming? :P T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Use 'order' with the quotes. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Beat me to it. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i tried that, it just displays a column of the literal string order T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no other ideas? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Hmmm. Try specifying the table? Never know, might word. Like SELECT T.order FROM StupidTable T T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Might work* T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, it did, thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Too lazy to try :P T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The real solution is to find a nerf bat and whack the guy who made the table a few times. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hehe T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie points excitedly at Jhav! T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: papier mache as a hobby comes in handy for that. Gives you something more substantial than a nerf bat, yet still easily breaks apart instead of doing any real damage (unless you're swinging for eyes, throat, or naughty bits). T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Why would you not want to do real damage? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: (and you want backquotes to treat a reserved word as a table/column ref. Single quotes make a string literal.) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Because you don't want to be doing the tables he's supposed to be doing? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: plus, you can lure them in with the promises of a pinata party. Just don't tell them that they're the pinata. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Ah, cheers Erikson. I knew it was something along those lines... T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself. After hiding the body of the previous contender. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: But it's been a long while since I've worked with anything so obtuse as to need 'em. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They're included by default in phpMyAdmin, I think. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm not using that though T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i got my workaround anyway, so it's all good :) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just saying because I saw them there before. Don't usually use quotes either. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone here :p T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just ask :P T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I am not familar with the Commodore system in that much detail - so ask your question :) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I'm out of black ink, how do I print somethig (in black) in colour T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: it's an email, so I can't really copy+paste into Word and change the colour (it would lose its integrity) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think you can just try printing in colour. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I tried, the black parts don't come out, the other parts do :p T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Shouldn't it turn out black if it's black? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, hmm... printer setting maybe. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yes, so how do I do that :p T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Printer-dependent? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: my gf busted my laser printer printing her stupid thesis so now I'm stuck with her POS printer T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Integrity? In Email? Copy and pasting is the best option I would guess. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bornari Tech: is it short enough to print screen to a picture editing tool? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Some printer drivers have a setting where you can turn on (or off) a setting called "composite black" T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: it's a POS.. hang on let me check T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its one of those older HPs T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Composite black is when the printer uses the color cartridge to create a black, rather than using the black cartridge. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Point of Sale system - usually those have thermal ink? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien snickers with Mendaloth about their shared secret. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth snickers with Trurien about their shared secret. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: smirk T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ok another workaround - anyway to change the display font colour in gmail to something non-black? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Darn poo that is antique yes T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://email.about.com/od/gmailtips/qt/Change_the_Default_Compose_Font_Face_and_Color_in_Gmail.htm might help T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: would it also change the colour its printing as? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It might? T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ok lets see T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: thats only when composing though T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: well, I forwarded it to myself and changed the color, if the Bank doesn't accept it, they're not getting my $ :) T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh just found this: http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/choose-your-own-theme-colors.html T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: thanks for the help, already printed it, not sure if there is anymore colour ink :p T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: like I said, if the bank doesn't accept it, they can kiss my investment account goodbye. T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap and that's a pretty good motivator for a bank T3/r5/2011-11-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: grin :) T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: if i had a black and rather big square in my mush on the top left , maybe anyone knows how can i remove that? it's not clickable or dragable T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: and i don't know why it appeared T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: bast plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: used some of them , u think i should try reinstall? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: or remove them? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: didnt help :(( T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: it's a problem with miniwindows and mush lately, no one knows why it happens. ,,or something else in your case T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: so only that i can do is to reinstall mush? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you've removed the plugin causing it, closing and opening the world will make the miniwindow go away T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: tried that didn't help T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i just removed all the plugins instead of original one that were when i installed mush T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What original one? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i mean when installed last mush there were allready some plugins T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Using AardMUSH? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Lots of those use miniwindows T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: hrm how to figure out then? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: btw if i try to unrar a new copy , and just copy my aardwolf db from this mush will that work? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It should be draggable if it came with AardMUSH T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try dragging it at the top? Even if you can't see a bar T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: hrm T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: does not work T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i can drag windows under this one... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: but not this one T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe there's a command that'll reset the position of all the miniwindows T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: aardreset or initaard? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: resetaard T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: did that T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: still that window is here :) T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: anyone got packet loss to aard recently ? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: where do i find aliases in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: ctrl-shift-9 T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dusto Tech: No aliases/macros work in Mudlet if they contain a script instead of substitution/command, anyone know how I can fix this? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yojimbo Tech: how hard is it to jailbreak iphone4? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not hard at all T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yojimbo Tech: or better question, is jailbreaking the only way to get options like flash etc? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) jailbreaking won't get you flash, (2) adobe announced on wednesday that they're not going to be doing flash for mobile browsers at all anymore T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yojimbo Tech: mmm thats craptastic T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: html5 won T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Which doesn't mean anything as end users still need flash to view flash websites now T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: sup T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: is there a way to be able to script kobold stench to go off via a trigger... on the target i am fighting? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there is, but that's illegal T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: why? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't see that autoattack on round is illegal unless you afk in an aggro room T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's botting T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just "kobold" should work T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: its not botting T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: it's not T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oftentimes, botting vs not botting comes down to who makes the decision to interact with the mud T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: wow that does work... thank you T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: targets aren't necessary for attack spell/skills when you're in combat T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: i didnt know that T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: also, is anyone here exp lag? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not at the moment T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Not more than usual. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: for some reason T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: window resized T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: and i cannot resize it back T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any particular window? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: the main window T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: damn, now my chat window too T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: once i click the resize button, it shrinks to a tiny size T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: nevermind, i restarted the client T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: can someone remind me where to check the box so mushclient retains commands in the prompt? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first checkbox T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: cheers T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and although it sounds like what you want, you don't want the "keep commands on prompt line" T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: nods, got "auto-repeat commands" T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: hello, im using blowtorch and was wondering is there a target command, say i wanted to set goblin as my target so i could use a hunt target or where target macro T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Never used blowtorch, but AFAIK, there's no way to store variables for later use. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razorburn Tech: okay thx, T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: corsair ram a good product? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmm, had some once, but not sure whether it was any good. My memory fails me. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: the ww2 plane was incredibly ood against the jap zeros T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: good T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok ill prolly stay with the gskill if i can get it T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: not that the product is good T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: stick to g force atom etc T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: g force or g skill? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: g money T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: g force T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: oh dont buy atom they suuuuuuuu.... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: atom is more for standed gamming T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderclap Tech: how can I clear the room data for a specific map in gmcp mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: first you turn off your computer, then hit it a few times, then it may work after. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderclap Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderclap Tech: still can't seem to find how to reset an area in mapper help. more hints please? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Mush, Zmud, Cmud, Gmud? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderclap Tech: mush T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper purgezone T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper purgezone --> Remove an area from the map database T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderclap Tech: worked like a charm. thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: your welcome T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper areas gives a list T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: do somone have the all mapper database T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that will be a 50 tp cost to fix your problem. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: tech tp 50 tp will get the whole database T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: course that is only like 1/3 of the roll. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: don't mind me, I'm on a roll yes. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: drugs are bad, mmkay T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what drugs T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: She is on natural "preggie" chemicals. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you know in television wrestling, you tag your partner and he take over, not work in this sense no T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud you cant do #if (a=b && b=%ismember(blagh,blagh)) or will that work? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: say i want to combine 3 commands... remove , where , put bag... how would i able to do that... in one sentence? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd do that in your client, can't do it with aard's alias T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: was that to answer my question? because... in my client... i would need to do three different times... i want to be able to wite it in one line... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know of any MUD clients that won't let you make that one command T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what client? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: im not sure i follow... because what do i use to separate each command? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what client are you using? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the client...many use ; to separate T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: mush T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUSH, you hit enter between each command T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: yes, so... there is no way to do it on one line in much T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they're on 3 lines of the alias action, but the alias itself is a single command T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: ; works as well T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you change settings, mokg T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have to change the send to T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is totally unnecessary, when you're not parsing further T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: well semicolon does in fact work on mush T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putrefy, you could make a new alias, say "weardagger", that does a "get dagger bag" "wear dagger" "put axe bag" T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, semicolon works, when it's set to, and you change the action of the alias T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's absolutely zero benefit to using semicolon for an alias T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: so the clien can understand as enter? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit enter... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you open the alias creation window, the action is *HUGE*...it expects you to actually hit enter for multiple commands T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: When you're creating the alias just put each command on a separate line is what he means T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: im not really trying to do an alias thouhg, just trying to type it out... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: i havent used alias' yet... so... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then there's still no real benefit, given it's not something that benefits from being stacked... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: generally, don't remove one item to wear another...wearing one item removes what had been there T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: well you do if you want to train another weapon type T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: above 85 T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no you don't T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: eh? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Risca Tech: 0h 20 T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when wearing axe, type "wear dag" T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your example was remove one, wear two, put three... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should be wear one, put two T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: oh... so you are saying i dont need to remove... anything just... where... ah T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and where doesn't work :P T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: wear T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: yes... T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: that is good to know... thank you abelinc T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only time you need to remove before wearing is when there are two options for where your character can wear it, and you want it to go into the second one T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weapons will automatically choose according to weight T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: abelinc, i just played around with making an alias and it does seem the client does in fact understand enter after a command is enter... wouldnt have thought that T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know why the cmud pattern dsjkhkd (*) {(*)} still requires both arguments to fire? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's how it converts into regex. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: this was discussed recently on the zuggsoft.com forums. I'm probably not recalling correctly, but it was something like {*} comes out as any character minimum of 1 whereas the other situation was any character minimum of 0. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i think you're thinking of {(*) - anything else} firing on anything, dokkar, ignoring the anything else T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the entire block gets made optional T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why are you doing {(*)}, though? If you are going to have anything in a stringlist, there's really no reason for the stringlist in the first place. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (sorry, meant firing on nothing, not on anything) T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: because i want to check for letters/numbers/characters :P T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: use %x, if by characters you mean symbolics T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the * includes whitespace T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the problem isn't really the *, but rather why do you have the {} around it? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont want it to always match, i thought {} use to be used for optional matches T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: zscript doesn't do optional matches in the sense of "match if it's there" T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you can do optional matches when you know something will ALWAYS be there but only want to match on specific things -- {item|item|item} T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can include a blank item too, if you also want to match on nothing T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not so much an issue of one being better than the other as two different ways of doing things. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: really, * is for a last-ditch effort when any other wildcard, construct, or series of wildcards can't get the job done. Most of the time, if you use * then you're doing it wrong. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i seemed to have found something that worked even if its not pretty, it just assigned my numbers differently then i expected T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what numbers are you interested in, if you don't mind my asking? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im just trying to capture multiple things that may not be there, %1/%2 will always be but %3 %4 might not T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's probably much easier to test for that in the code rather than trying to match it all in the pattern. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no surprises and wondering why the hell your trigger didn't match. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #switch and %match() are quite useful for that. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: (%w) jhkhjkhkjhkjhkjhkj (%w){| (%x)| (%x) (%x)} ... works just assigned my numbers weird what i thought would be %3 is %5 T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Haven't really been following the conversation, but if you're using regex, then the ? symbol will match on either zero or one of something. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: also avoids the confused numbering system, and local variables are just as fast if not faster. :P T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can also name your captures in regex if you want, so you can be sure what it's referring to, rather than using %1, %2, etc. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not in a stringlist like he's got going, though. You can name the entire stringlist pattern, but not the individual elements. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ah, nods. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: think he found out about that about a year or so ago. T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: anyone had a problem where installing windows updates made drivers of various things stop working? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what kind of things? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Wireless driver by any chance? T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: yeah wireless, audio, mic T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: happened with my wireless kb/mouse T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: i just had to restore my system to almost 2 weeks before T3/r5/2011-11-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: so im trying to figure out which update caused that problem T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how can I lower the height of a image? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: an T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's a very vague question... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: vague T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: hmmmmmm T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Need to recommend a PC build for gaming for a friend, out of the loop as mine is a patchwork of replacement parts over 5 years o.0 (More machine now, than...machine) - anything new to watch out for? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432590 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: As long as he can run c mud client on it, it should be ok... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a mud client * T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, his words "I want to look at a game and be forgiven for thinking I'm hallucinating" T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: also http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/Guide.png T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Link looks good, Aussie links help a whole lot, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: Really depends on how much money he wants to spend, and what he wants to do with the machine but those links have all the info you'll need T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Don't suppose anywhere builds pre-shipping you know of (aus) - gonna get stuck with the assembly, otherwise :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If he wants to think he's hallucinating, he should try this: http://www.cyborggaming.com/prod/ambx.htm T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: pre-built machines are almost never worth the premium you pay for them T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rexyl Tech: But i'm on the other side of the planet so i can't help you much there :( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I got my build's first version build was $75 over seperate parts, but that company doesn't exist anymore :-( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: separate* T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hmm is there a delete specific cexit option for mapper? or just purge for current area T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: err room T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there any usb-style device you can get to load IDE or SATA HDDs into externally? Thinking to transfer data from 4-5 various HDDs from an old PC onto one ginormous internal storage drive T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are some usb-ata/sata interfaces T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There are USB docking stations for hard drives. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Docking station - why couldn't I think of that to describe what I wanted :-P Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sorry to continually mooch off of tech (hardware, my only weakness, how did you know?!) Is an Intel i5 2500 the only one of that type, or would there be different Intel i5 2500s? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is also 2500k T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That might be it - one site lists as 3.7 Ghz, another at 3.3 - got confused T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: turbo is 3.7 nominal 3.3 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check ark.intel.com T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the K part in 2500 is for overclockers T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hang on, the site listing the 3.3 also has the 2500k...but it's listed as 3.3 as well...would it list as 3.3 with overclocking to take it up to 3.7? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, turbo boost gives 3.7 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but K series can be overclocked T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are also S and T series with lower base clock T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh good, looks like they have 2 versions of the 2500k, one overclocking+turbo enabled at 3.7...wow this is confusing T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all i5 are turbo enabled T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 2500k has one version running on 3.3 afaik. k just means it's unlocked T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Mebbe just a sneaky sales pitch - I'll go with the cheap one in that case :-) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: currently 2500k has the best bang for the buck from intel's current lineup T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: save the money and buy a llama instead T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 215 for i5 2500k , 335 for i7 2600k- still go with the 2500k? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though, it strange that 2500K lacks some features of 2500 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you don't plan to overclock then get 2500 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, 2500k and 2600k are pretty much the same for gamers. i7 just has multithreading T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also humourously, 1,349 for a 12meg cache Xeon...I'll pass on that methinks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: which isn't worth it for games imho T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: aren't all the iSeries supposed to be multicore? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i5 has slightly lower clock 3.3 instead of 3.4, but you can overclock to 4-5GHz easily T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, the i5 is quad as far as I can see here T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i5 and i7 are quad, but i7 also has two threads in one core so it's virtually 8 core T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all i* are multicore, but some area alos multi-thread T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I hate how I do this, get the build for a friend, become unsatisfied with my cobbled box, decide to upgrade my own :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i3 is dual core with multithreading (4 virtual cores) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: buy an xbox360 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Quad core will more than do me, even though I do a heap of db/processing work for uni, I have yet to hit the 4th core on my current T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, like i said earlier - i5 2500k is the best solution atm T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never any decent games released on pc these days anywy T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Feral Farkyss. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ...um...no words for that one :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's true and you know it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pc gaming has made a comeback since console hardware is very outdated by now T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I cried when I saw MW3 and Skyrim on console...cried like a little girl T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i enjoy games in full hd and better graphics than on the current consoles T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and all that with a mid-range hardware T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well i guess if you're so shallow that all you care about is eye-candy.... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: games are cheap on steam, too. why would i ever get a console except for the exclusive games? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can you MUD on an xbox...distinct lack of eye candy here T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you don't need an i7 to mud T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: certain games immerse better on console, I'll give you that...not that a 360 controller hooked up to a PC with hdmi output couldn't match, but still T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: eye-candy? i'm saying that i'm playing the SAME games that are available on the consoles. only difference is that they run better on pc (except for some shoddy ports like gta iv) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i prefer the 360 controller on pc as well T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh dear jeebus...finish the CPU selection, now I'm looking at a selection of motherboards that resembles Google Earth satellite view... *sobs* T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'll pick New York SE for $150 please... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: something i put together couple of days ago for a mudder here - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2inP T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: my hard drives are now 6 years old, wonder how much longer they'll go T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, the gpus are wrong tho. should be msi gtx 560 ti twin forzer's T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh I have plenty of example builds...problem is sourcing them in Aus, international shipping is painful at best :-( Also can't access newegg T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: get gtx 590 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for you guys the credit crunch was something that happened to other people T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Msi gpu? My stupid may be showing, but isn't Nvidia still king? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: trachx - not cost efficient enough T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nvidia chipset, vakieh T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: msi is the brand, nvidia is the gpu vendor T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That explains all these Gigabyte GT's I'm seeing then :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, here's the correct link - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2iwR T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Will be nice to make the jump to DDR3 though to be sure T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: didn't notice any speed diff at all from ddr3 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've done some thorough research and that setup has the "best bang for the buck" high-end components T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Twin GPU worth it, or pack more into a higher spec'd single? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What is Duckbat's new website? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: single is better T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: twin 560 ti's cost the same as a single gtx580 and have better performance T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Same addie Turie, duckbat.com, but new interface T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: cost more to run :-) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, yeah, you need some extra psu power. but you should invest in a good psu anyway T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 750+ watts is enough tho T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i used a beQuiet 680w and was very happy T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sadly, I cannot find the keys part. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: buy now higher model gpu, and later you will add another when they get cheap T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: quiet, silver rated, and made in germany T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so no, trachx, single gpus aren't always better. in the dream world where you can buy the most expensive bleeding edge hardware, maybe yes. but i'm talking about $$$ spent for the performance T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, you can always update later when the current bleeding edge becomes cheaper T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any difference between an Asus P8Z68-V and one labelled 'pro'? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (or find out that you don't need to) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably about $50 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: since the cards you have already lose less value that the current bleeding edge in the future T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: pro have sometimes more IO ports T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: usually oc features, vakieh T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can see an Asus P8Z68-M pro, no -V pro T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, from current (affordable) gen you want a mobo from asus or gigabyte and z68 chipset T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the rest doesn't matter that much if you're not an overclocker. just check reviews for common problems and pick one according to your budget T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the performance/price curve gets very steep in the end, so don't bother with bleeding edge T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, looking at the upper enders, 2% difference in benchmarks for 150% difference in price o.0 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 2x4 ripjaw ddr3 unavailable locally :-((( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Screw it, go with corsair, done well for me in the past T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: corsair and g.skill are two high-end manufacturers i swear by T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and a single msi gtx 560 ti twin forzr will do just fine T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My inner nerd screams SSD but my wallet cries out noooooo T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, hdd prices have gone up since the floods in thailand, so the price difference is smallest ever T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but, are you buing performance pc and plan to use it? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, studying database and simulation among other things at uni, and I do it long distance (bc work) so I don't have access to campus pcs :-( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then I would go I7 and integrated GPU T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: unless your software cannot make use of 8 threads, then go I5 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i7 is better for heavy multitasking, but i5 handles pretty much anything just fine T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Never seen it hit more than 2 cores with minor tasks on #3, and I scrape by on my 9600gt, so I think i7 might be overkill T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It caps the first 2 cores rather readily though :-( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get i5 then. you can get an ssd for the money you save T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 60gb for 119...sounds ok, considering 120gb for 209 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: These 64meg cached HDDs seem rather astronomical though...guess floods hit them hard T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 500 for a 2 tb T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got a 1tb 7200 rpm 64mb hdd for 47 euros last month. now they cost 120 euros with a discount T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i got 2 74gb 10krpm hdds 6 years ago for $500 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can just wait 6 month, then prices will return to previous level T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Damn...just wrap my head around SATA 2, now I see SATA 3? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they should start dropping in march T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sata2 is just fine if you use a spinning disk T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i'm afraid i'm underestimating the reseller/retailer greed when the manufacturing returns to normal. the price drop might come later and slower then expected T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: thats not a fair call T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have ~6tb in external storage for media, so I could always just whack the 500gb I'm using now in and get a 60gb SSD for the os T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: resellers/retailers have heaps of costs to pay T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: they can't just sell stuff to you at cost price :p T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: of course T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: marvell/jmicron controllers on X58A motherboard T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How likely am I to see these? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i understand why the prices are astronomical right now. i'm saying that they might drop the prices slower than they could when the manufacturing is back to normal T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nvm, compatability check says ok, disregard T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm...top fans in cases, methinks that will become a vortex of dust o.0 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: clean your home and use dust filters T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not a silly idea though T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, it's official, I am a tool :-P Got it to 1800 with a single 560 gpu...time to cull... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1 gpu, no overclocking - 550w psu ok? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: isn't it cheap for a good power supply? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: depends on gpu and everything else combined T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the one I was recommended was $239 (Corsair 800w) but I can get a 550w Altec for 69 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if ur running i7 with gtx 590... with 24 gigs of ram 550 is not enough T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thats a huge difference.... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: oh, whoops - i5, 8gb ram, 560 ti gpu T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: manufacturer on gpu? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: msi T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: get evga if you can... msi blows ass T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: isn't the number of hard and optical drives more important? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: tho msi makes better oc software lol T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it counts T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol just like everything you plug into ur psu hehe T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. 1 SSD, 2 SATA HDDs internal, a bazillion usbs :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i always suggest not trying to save a few buks on psu T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah forget about 550 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Normally I wouldn't, but 239->69 is more than a few :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: which is the weird bit to me, there should be a better and cheaper step up from 550 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i fried enough psu's to reccomend never saving on that particular part T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lies, hisazul. msi gtx 560 ti twin forzr is one of the best high-end gpus out there T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: had 1 go abaze and 1 spew an actual fireball T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cost/performance/reliability wise T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 560 isnt high end T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it isn't bleeding edge, but it's high end T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my 580 got 3 gigs of ddr5 ram on it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but for his configuration is quite sufficient T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good for you T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: well yeah T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol dag T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my 580 isnt high end either T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but 560 ti has better performance for the buck T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mmm.. atm probably T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: they gone down on price with 590s coming with stock water cooling units T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: in fact, 2x560 ti costs the same as your 580 and outperforms it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. it seems I am running a 430w atm, with all but the upgraded gpu and the SSD the same...load sitting at 40% T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if u put dual monitor... if its single they are redundant T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This is with 4 internal HDDs, and the thing looks like a spider it has that many usbs in it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sli T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it's not redundant. it's a better solution than single 580 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: why... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: older shader T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i will admit they have much better power managment then my 580... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is true 550 then you will have enough power, 150W for GPU, 100 for CPU, 4*10 for HDD, 30 for Mobo so 350 would be sufficient T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wrong, trachx T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never calculate your power need like that T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ^^^^ amen to that T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: jeebus, 289 for the 560, 559 for a 580...let's assume I am going with the 560... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, about 560 ti sli vs 580 - you pay the same amount (or less) and get it benchmarks better T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what dag said is true man 560 is better for cash you spend T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: sli is keyword T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Though these radions look somewhat tempting T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: eff radions T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: whats wrong with this calculation? I assume his 550W is not peak power, but continuous power T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: terrible drivers T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i repeat - i've done thorough research - msi gtx 560 ti twin forzr (2gb gddr5) is the best high-end card you can get cost-wise T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: cost wise yes T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: performance on single display nah T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cost/performance wise T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so if I add a second 560 I will need to up the psu - I can live with that T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If your computer uses 550 watts of continous power, you would be bankrupt soon T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it outperforms 580 for the same price or less T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL rolls on the floor laughing at Ranrr's antics! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only drawback is extra power consumed T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, but usually servers consume 150W (2*Xeon, 24GB RAM, 8HDD) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tbh, by the time I feel the upgrade itch again, 560/580 will be dinosaurs :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but sometimes you need all the power for a few minutes T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, the 560 ti is very reliable T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i'm strictly talking about the msi twin forzr version T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol i upgraded from p D ~2.8? 4 gigs of ram out of which only 3 were regestering and nvidia 5700 fx lmao T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: id never buy msi card regardless T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: shitty manufacturing every time i tried T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: brand fanboi much? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yes actually T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i prefer asus/gigabyte myself T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i give credit when credit is due T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: msi has the best version of 560. period. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: asus mobos... corsair ram/cooling, coolermaster psu, evga gpus, gskill ram, wd hdd T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL shrugs helplessly. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the word best always has to include "in this pricerange" T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i dont like multi monitors so im going for best single gpu T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't need multimonitor for sli T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, psu yields 1700...and I don't suppose I /reeeeeaaaally/ need that Blu-ray burner T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even single gpu can have multi monitor T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: then its wasted T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ans multi monitor is very good for work T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not in that pricerange. i'm talking about the gup series T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jebus... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: btw, will be multimonitoring for non-gfx functions, basically mega text scrawl, some ide T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i only play games on this rid so work aspect goes down the window. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if i was modeling in maya or 3ds max then i wouldnt go with anything below 2 monitors T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll try to explain again - 2x msi 560 ti's in sli configuration cost LESS or as much as a single 580 and OUTPERFORMS it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, Vakieh don't need gaming configuration T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: screw him, i'm arguing with hisazul :P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then I agree 2 * 560 gives you 2 * more CUDA power T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: iirc it had 20-30% better fps on crysis benchmark T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: than 580* T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: 20-30% comparing to single card doing single work (like game), but CUDA enables you to use GPU similar to CPU T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i got 60 fps which never moves anywhere. so w/e T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so with 2 cards you could do different computation on each card T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: great. all i'm saying is that double 560 is currently the best solution T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so then you have 2 * power (not in games though) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: find me something that can give my 580 a pause first T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Suppose I only ever use headphones, so sound card can go...$1513...little more reasonable T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: double 560 beats your 580 for the same price or less T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: haha T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL sighs. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All motherboards have integrated line outs, right? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: dag arguing with you is like hitting ur junk against a wall T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: most of them T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: audio? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ASUS - P8Z68-V? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yeah, audio T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: sounds like standart mobo so yeah T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you've been talking about the gpu you own and your favorite brands. i've been talking about the best performance available T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you don't play games then consider using integrated GPU T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: only mobos that wont will be either server specific or really old shool T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't understand what your point is T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Let's assume I will game, but that isn't what the taxman will hear :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now I was able to transfer my oem windows from my old box to my current one - M$ still cool with that? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only if you use the same mobo T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you cannot transfer OEM T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Didn't last time - better play it safe and get a new one T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they won't care T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if they query it, just say you replaced bits because they failed T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: point is it my single card not oced still has 20%-30% on shader clock and ~10% core clock then a single 560 ti if i oc it i can get about ~70-80% of double 2x560 ti with HALF the power T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they won't challenge it because it couldn't be argued in court T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I got a changed-hardware warning and had to re-validate, but otherwise went ok T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i agree. a single 580 beats single 560 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Excellent - away goes the oem costs T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: like i said i can still get 70 to 80% of what 2 560 tis can do with half the power T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm, sneaky - had a $85 oem install fee I just avoided it seems - nice T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: power = money in long run thx bai T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but double 560 beats single 580 by 20-30% in some games. also costs as much or less and uses about the same amount of power T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ON HELL NO T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: im gona go friking google it but im dead positive a single 560 ti doesnt use half of 580s power T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats interwebz on the post statistic lol T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: err spot* T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, sorry, i was wrong T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 560 uses about 300 watts under load and 580 about 400 under load T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: not sure on msi specifically but god no... since ~550? 560 definetly power usage skyrocketed T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so the performance and power boost % are about the same T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: like i said i defend my point with fact ill save on my electric bill :P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm reading the benchmarks and specs right now. want links? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and i hate msi >_> T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thx throw em T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/01/25/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-1gb-review/8 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/11/09/nvidia-geforce-gtx-580-review/8 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's for single cards, btw T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if only evga started making good oc software... id throw out msi afterburner faster then you can blink -_- T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeo T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yep* T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's 1gb 560, btw. msi ones have higher clock and twice the ram T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: peak heat is full of bs T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i agree, don't like msi much either. but their 560 ti is damn fine T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if it's full of bs please provide your own benchmarks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: can only speak for 580 temperature T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you have the same model? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: no idea what kind of 580 they used but thats way too low for 580 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i didn't pick the manufacturers since i was only after the power consumption T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if they used hydro copper 2 580 then its too high T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: otherwise too low T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe their testing case had a better airflow than yours? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 4 140mm fans 1 120 mm on on back T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and 2 120 mm on radiator T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: trust me i got good airflow T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: huh? 4x140 in and 1x120 out? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my cpu might as well have ice on it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only 3 fans in my entire pc T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: side 140 frost 140 down 140 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: front* T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: top 140 replaced by radiator and 2 120s on it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't matter where. you only have one fan for blowing air out? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and 120 on back T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, down to $1,343, out of places to skimp...though I could always go the dodgy case route :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 3 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err. in from the back? wtf? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: no front side and down T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: link, vakieh T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: out from top and back T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, k T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: well... and psu is out too T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mobo is really cold cpu is water cooled T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: gpu 70 is normal T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i get 45C cpu under load with air cooling T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1 sec on link, build list apparently powered via...cookies? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: E8400 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 80 at ~90%+ gpu load with 1+gigs of vram used T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mine is in 30s lol T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and that's with bad contact. haven't lapped the base yet T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: stock settings tho T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: old case ... had... umm 1 fan? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if u consider cpu heat sink a fan lol T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got liquid metal alloy thermal compound. dropped the temp hard T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: name? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my psu has a single 80mm fan, my intake is a single 80mm fan, and i have a 120mm fan acting as cpu fan + exhaust T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cpu idles at 47, gpu around 80 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i got corsair liquid cooling kit h100 i think really good imo T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: coollaboratory T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ohhh my friend used that i think T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir laughs out loud at Tigernuts. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: old rig was fully open case T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gpu is fanless T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what cpu and cooler? that's really high T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: 50 degrees c for me now T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: was overheating like an old sailor w/o a boat T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gpu idling at 63c atm T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: O_o T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think i can get cpu temp down to 35-40 if i lap the base and ihs T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: my old com was 70 lol T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: even mine idles at 31 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think my cpu goes above 45 even under load T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and mine overheats like a beast T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: new memory kit arriving today so i can start overclocking T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what you got? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: phenom 550 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ment towards dag mostly :P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is dual 3.1ghz btw T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: current setup is E8400 on asus p5k-pro with a-adata vitesta ee ddr2 1066+ and gigabyte gtx 260 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Rig list - http://i.imgur.com/3DSwx.gif T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 4 gigs of ram T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 3.1 lol it still better then my old rig haha T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: parts of my rig are 6 years old, parts 2 years old T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aussie costs, so not spectacular, I'll comp them against a couple of others once I have the specs down T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only have a 19" tft so don't need huge gfx cards T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I remember my 19"...thought it was the BOMB...then I got a 26" :-) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: the one i got rid off about 2 months ago served me for more then 5 years... p D 2.8 dual fx 5700 4 gigs ddr2 and 200gb hdd T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some of us are poor T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looks good, vakieh. is the gpu 2gb edition? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it played effin crysis on half high/half mid settings T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: remember when 14" was standard...? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in the early 80s i had a 22" monitor, it was called a tv T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1 :-( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i still have vague recallection of back and white -_- T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: black* T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hawk Edition, if that means anything T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: man i miss my old rig... it was on fire twice T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hald melted silicon from psu all over memory slots T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: heatsink was tied to mobo with a rope! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my previous mobo had one of those retarded tiny chipset coolers, ended up having to replace it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: best 560 out there T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with a heatsink T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never buy a mobo with a chipset fan T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Vendor has 3 560s listed, 1 each from MSI, Gigabyte and Asus, all 1gb T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 1gb is not enough nowdays T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get it from somewhere else tho. worth the effort T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: unless ur using small resolutions T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: screens are cheap and fullhd is common T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ehh? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: full hd? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho i had higher than hd on my old crt :( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they ain't cheap T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: OHH T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sigh...I miss 64meg gpu allowing full gfx...guess I'll go find another vendor, I like my 1080p T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: omfg i got it only reading it about 4 times -_- T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i wanted full hd, i'd need a full hd tv or monitor, a new gfx, a new os, and replace half my software T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no thanks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just bought 1920x1080 led 22" viewsonic screen for 80 euros. is that expensive? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you don't have 80 euros, yes T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir comforts Tigernuts. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1 euro 2 US/AU $ ? If so then no T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: haha T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheapest here will be around 130 euros anyway T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1 euro is about 1.4 us T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, AU is on parity atm - in that case rather cheap T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i switched from 17 inc flat screen from around 7 years ago... with BURNT out colors to 27" >_> paying 400 buks for it was worth it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i was going full hd, i wouldn't get anything under a 32" T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: mud in effin HD! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got mine from a sale tho. regular prices start from 110 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 22-24 is more than enough imho T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL nods at Seltsimees Dagnir. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: actually T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have a 19 and a 17, so i'd need a least 32 to replace it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: it sorta depends on how u set it up T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can get 32", but it's just too damn big for desk viewing and still has exactly the same resolution T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: friend's 30" samsung professional display is quite nice T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: far enough 32 might be actually better T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but that was like 1500 euros 3 years ago T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: eff that price T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: im poor T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not poor enough T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my gpu cooler consists of two pieces of cardboard guiding the intake fan air over the gpu cooler fins T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 22" is enough for me. i'd just like higher resolution and 16:10 :( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: doesnt have 1960? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my 17 has a lot of ghost on it now T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironkid Tech: how do i use triggers T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is a warning against cheap monitors T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: heh T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i like my old monitor with colors so burned out u couldnt see wolf logo on mush T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i want more vertical space and higher resolutions! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i only found out about logo after new monitor what a shame T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so same build but with 2gb gpu...kk, off to find a magical vendor that has some decent gpu stock lists T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: newegg T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my damn 14.1" laptop screen has the same vertical height as my 22" desktop monitor T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Newegg us only :-((((((( T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: oh fook T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: then im of no use i only use new egg T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and my ancient 19" crt had higher resolution than modern lcds T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hence my epic sad that I couldn't just rip a build off the web...makes it sooooo much harder T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i used to use a 24" phillips crt in the late 90s T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: took two people to carry it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my 27" starts to shake with wind -_- T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and its held by a ... plastic fork stuck in it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my old 17" wouldnt budge even if you kicked it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i remember my first 17" pc monitor. it was 3 inches bigger than my first T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so is the Radeon 6950 really that bad? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i seem to remember drooling as I played doom2 on it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i couldnt play doom2 when it came out T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why not? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my cpu was too trashy T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: feh T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironkid Tech: how do u use trigers T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: so u can imagine what i was sitting on T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've ignored radeons for ages T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: but i begged like a pro for a month and got some cash for a full rehaul soon after T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: then i couldnt play because every damn friend i had was too busy playing it >_> T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, no hdmi out, scratch that T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: doom2 brings back bad memories T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, Ironkid, what client are you using? Triggers aren't a MUD thing T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why do you need hdmi out? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: PC doubles as a media centre to a 40 inch T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dvi is just fine unless you plan on using crappy screen speakers T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Will use dvi for the monitor, use the hdmi for the tv T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you want to use tv speakers? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: tv speakers work good for my xbox through hdmi T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, send audio via line out to a speaker system T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i always use headphones... good sound quality is wasted on me T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: then you can use dvi T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you need a decent sub for any form of media centre T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dvi = hdmi - sound T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: buy a good stereo and you'll never need replace it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But my monitor uses the dvi output... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine is 13yrs old and counting T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: aside from my vinyl deck which is 20 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my uncle got epic sound system and its probably about as old as me T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Got a logitech 150w, probably dodgy, but I am not as spoiled in the audio department T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nods, sound systems don't really age if bought correctly T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: he MADE it... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think all new cards have two dvi outputs T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hes head engeener on tv station .... good with electronics lol T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people used to, back in the 70s T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my gtx 260 has 2xdvi and hdmi out T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: man anyway T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Will look into it, but the 560 has 2x dvi and hdmi, so moot point if I go with that card T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: gona go fire up skyrim, get disapointed and play some gun bros on my phone lol... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's nearly dark enough time of year to pull doom3 out again T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Damn Skyrim caused this in the first place...gonna sue Bethesda T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ... updating for bethseda titles is a waste T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if it was 5 years ago id probably do the same tho T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, buddy wanted a good rig for Skyrim, and looking for him made me feel mine was inadequate T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: not a single good developer left around imo T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: for pcs..... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: valve T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: heheh im assuming doing a new update/computer now will be worth it for star wars, guild wars, and diablo though right? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: steam ruins image T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: until valve release episode 3, they remain teh sux0r T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Creative Assembly - love me some Total War T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: <3 steam T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: O_O T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: BURN HERETIC T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: BURN IN EPIC FIRE T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i hate steam with passion T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: steam got hacked lately, didn't they? and all your credit card details swiped T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i get tired of fixing my cheat tables with every effin patch T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Steam's new motto - Hey, at least we aren't Origin :-P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i objectively like steam T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ughh T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: origin were awesome T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anything with ea on it is doomed to fail T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ea used to be awesome in the 80s, too T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fail, yes, but fail profitably T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah thats true T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, i use paypal and virtual credit cards T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and my account info was hashed and salted T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Though I do remember feeling joyous listening to 'Challenge Everything' loading up 1942 a decade ago...good times T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at least steam stored credit card info encrypted T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway.... gona go fire up skyrim and see how bad it is T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i can't be angry because they got breached. stuff like that happens T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i only use debit card wich is almost always empty LOL T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: so skyrium better for buy for the xbox? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i'm happy because they were storing the data properly T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: NOOOOOOO - Skyrim on xbox is teh sad face T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: media like to panic everyone, but hacking is inevitable T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: any game on crap box is a waste of time imo T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stick all your business details on the cloud, it's really safe! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: no mods against mods.... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: OK im really out this time T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: afaik my data is safe. i don't mind someone having my secure 14 digit password hash with salt. have fun with it, i dare you T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and my 580 is still better then msi x 2 :P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i didn't even change my password T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meh - $1.50 a month full cover credit insurance - I get hacked, I get payout at no fault - 'sall good T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not and benchmarks agree with me T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i pay 0 for that T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The $1.50 covers loss of income insurance also, btw T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: insurance these days is mostlye a con T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: before i go if u do buy 560+ get msi afterburner and set proper voltage on gpu T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: most of newer cards seem to have retarded voltage settings T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Will do, thanks for all the help! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hisa, you never mentioned WHY you hate steam T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they stop him cheating T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my 580s stock voltage was 1013 mV... which pretty much crashed any dx11 game with tesselation because drivers would get boggled T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because clearly games these days are so difficult that you need to chat T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: since you're a brand fanboy and mentioned passion, it can't be anything objective i guess T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i love patches but hate how steam goes about it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i find steam's patching system completely seemless and unnoticable T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice at Tigernuts, in complete agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, i notice the "finished downloading" statuses T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: example dx hr is ... 4 big files... i fails some verification it starts download for 2 gigs... after it hashed it i cant even stop d/l because now its fragmented T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When my isp's on the fritz I get bugged by it, but otherwise ok T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: plus my router sucks. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: and i got no money to upgrade it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sooo... steam is fine and your router sucks :P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: my isp too T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, Steam does assume a very decent internet connection - mebbe a flaw, mebbe not T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 40kbs upload is pretty much epic fail T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't have a very decent internet connection and it works fine for me T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: steam is something that turned me from being a raging pirate to a paying customer T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: <<< low attention span T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: too bad steam got hacked though T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, definitely de-pirated me T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it adds value and has great discounts. i'm happy to pay for the games T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL shrugs helplessly. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For games...bc netflix doesn't operate here, film/tv can bite me T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: i prefer games as stand alone apps T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i might be tempted to buy portal 2 once it drops below $10 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: steam rocks it's just that there have been no new good stategy games in years T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't care, kirua. everything was hashed and salted T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Portal 2 will be a giveaway to apologise for being hacked I hear T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: O_o T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: portal 2 is worth every penny even with it's current price T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i like the music T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: portal 2 was worth 50 buks imo T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the ending song rather T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just for laughs T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh, no game is worth 50 bucks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I VERY much preferred Portal 1 - 2 was ok, but it lacked the freedom of #1 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: compare with trash u normaly get for 49.99 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: heh, i just bought a ps3 game for about 90 bucks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I felt restricted in 2, and the 'gels' made me hate it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: modern fail ware? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: no console game is worth more than a tenner to me :P T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: idolmaster T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: loved gels >_< T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: portal 2 made me cream myself. one of the most perfect and polished games ever T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: anyway cya guys just wanted to mention voltage T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: great voiceacting, great puzzles, great writing, great gameplay T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Co-op was...rather unpolished T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well please instruct them to pull their finger out and finish the HL2 series T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: guess i'll have to try it one of these days T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have /nothing/ bad to say about that game. i've tried to come up with something, but i couldn't T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: valve time, nuts, valve time T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unportalable surfaces make for a boring level? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't mind if they take ages to release a game since they've all been polished to perfection T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: rather than publishing crap fast and often T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: too bad their 'episodic gaming' plan didn't work tho T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: YEARLY RELEASE ALL THE THINGS...cod, bf, etc, etc, bleh T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Case in point, highest grossing? Madden...wtf is Madden? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: by now surely it's as much about content generation than engine design? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe now it is since ep3 will be hl3 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess they'll have a new engine since original source engine is very old already T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like 8 years? portal 2 looked great tho T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Texturing in Portal 2 was good - characters, not so much T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir slaps Vakieh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Tell me looking at yourself through a portal looked anything but blocky? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looked great in hd and ultra settings T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and the characters were wonderful. all of them. wheatley, glados, cave johnson. even the damn turrets T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: sigh... video games... the thing that keeps the computer industry moving T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wheatly, Glados and the turrets were mechanical - CJ was basically FMV T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When they make a random movement human-identifiable character look believable, I'll give them props - not that their texturing was anything but incredible, mind you T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they didn't have human characters except for chell T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did you missed cj coming back from the dead to show off his snazzy character model? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ...I may have done T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Last I saw was the field and closing shack door T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which, btw, was fmv T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, that was kind of hairy in hd T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Looks like 2gb 560 unavailable from any Aus vendor...how much for a 1 bed apartment and plane ticket to US?...oh wait, SOPA, you can keep it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm, ok. check the reviews of the ones available then T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because the version i gave you was the best of the series. i can't vouch for the others T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 560 1gb seems like the way to go - to get a 2gb means Radeon or +$500 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm - can get 2gb 560, but only on Palit - heard anything? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: how do u know if what yer lookinmg at is dual channel ram or tri channel ram? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ram is ram. mobo handles dual channel T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: kk is that asus a dual or tri? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: almost all are dual T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: kk T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i seriously doubt you need tri T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: lol im spending way to much time on this shit for a casual guy! i need to get back to fishing! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in MUSH, is there a way to prevent my macros from being entered into my commandline history? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would search the forums. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: can you do a "STARTSWITH" or "ENDSWITH" statemnet when using the mapper on mushclient? If so, what is the syntax? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: hey anyone here that might be able to help me? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: depends what you need, just ask the question :) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's kind of a vague question. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or rather...a very vague question. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: just downloaded the aardwolf mushclient to my comp and i enter commands but they dont actually go through until i push enter and it shows on the screen and then push enter again on the blank command entry T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You have to press enter to have the commands to go through the mud. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: well you do have to hit enter to send the commands... sounds normal T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you shouldn't have to hit enter twice? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: that's a really stupid client design if you do T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, you do not hit enter twice. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: aye i would agree, but its the one i downloaded from the aardwolf homepage T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, he has to press enter twice T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: did you actually read his question? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: and i know it doesnt normally do that T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: did you read is celani? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: I use the package and other than resize the windows I haven't changed anything, and am not having to dbl hit enter T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: yes, i did T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: yes enter twice, once to show up on the black screen then another in the blank command entry for it to actually do anything on aard T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What if you do some other command other than just hitting enter on a blank command? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What happens then? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: hmm turns out there is another problem T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Swaizo - with the cursor in the clients command entry box, type 'echo foo' and hit enter. Exactly what happens? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: my page on aardwolf isnt streaming T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The scroll bar is on the far right. Is it scrolled down all the way? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: it echo a gray foo word on the black page, but only after enter twice, page also isnt streaming, it only updates whats happening when i also push enter T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: and yes scroll bar is all the way down T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: what OS? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: vista T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sobs in misery. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: heh i i know vista sucks, but i have this downloaded on another comp with vista and it works fine T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: which is why i am confused T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Swaizo - File -> Global Preferences. Select General tab. Is 'All typing goes to command window' checked? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So if say, you have autotick on, and just sit there for a while without doing anything, you never see the mud tick? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That just moves focus back to the command line if the main window has focus and you start typing, Arnica. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: aye checked, ticker keeps going negative if i dont push enter T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Go into World Properties the Output and make sure Un-pause on send is checked T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm not talking about the tick timer, I'm talking about the tick notification from the mud T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you turn your status bar on (view->status bar), there's a little box to the left of your world name in the status bar. It'll light up if the world is paused. Is that lighting up when you think you should be seeing stuff? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: ok i will check that Rathik, o the screen does nothing til i push enter, tick or anything T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I can't help you with Mushclient, but a good thing to test would be a different client or telnet to make sure it is Mush. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: sorry yall, gonna restart the comp real quick, just checkin. ill get back in just a few min. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: hey back T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: this time im on cmud T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is it fixed? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: and its workin fine T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: im not sure why the aardwolf mushclient was doin that cuz i really like that one T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: but i cant play like that T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: yall know of a way i can still use cmud and have a mapper atleast? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you can use CMud. It has a mapper. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ...use cmud and it's mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it works really, really well, too T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you try the newest Aardworlf MUSHclient version from http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list ? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: nah just the one on the aardwolf homepage, but i will try T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you can download a rather-outdated map for cmud and various package files from the www in my finger. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: alright thanks T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: alright downloaded the newer mushclient and that is working fine as well T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: got my mapper and some working software! T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bid On Swaizo Tech: thankyou for yalls help T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: is there a way to change what the keypad numbers do on a standard keyboard in mushclient? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: don't see them in the macro list... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->keypad T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Yes, go into world properties and look for keypad T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: awesome, thanks a lot T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: got it changed :) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm I just downloaded the latest bast plugin and the latest mushclient. Nothing is getting through to my screen except for channel messages though. Almost like a trigger is hiding all the messages coming from the mud. No room descriptions, nothing happens when I type finger or whois, nothing. Any ideas? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: install bast plugins 1 at a time. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: refresh the areas plugin or disable it altogether.. I can't remember the exact syntax since I don't use it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh reloading the areas plugin did the trick thanks :0 T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: same thing happened to me, disabling one basts plugins did the trick. i think it was one of the new eq ones T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: For now anyways T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, need to debug that, please put an issue in at my webpage T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I acutally never used teh inventory plugin on the old bast setup, but I kind of like this is new one. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: happy to Bast :) Although I'm afraid I won't have a ton of info on it :) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I get it anytime I have a fresh install of the plugins as well. Basically doing refresh on the area plugin fixes it for me T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you guys load all the plugins at the same time? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I do, yeah T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: tried to but found it was a bad idea T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: and yeah there's usually about 12 errors that way T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I just select all in the directory and load them all. I usually get some errors, but I just quit and relog and it's good. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wow, I haven't tested that, sigh, but the blank screen is because there are two area plugins with basically the same triggers and one gets the line that disables the "catchall" while the other doesn't because the first one got it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, there's some good info to file away :-) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no way you can combine them? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I didn't design them to be all loaded at once, so now i have something else to debug ;) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could check for existence of one being loaded before loading second T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I could, but the plan is for the nondb one to go away since it has some bugs anyway and I only know of one person who uses it T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: how would you create a sub trigger in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean? What are you trying to do? Inception.... T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: gag the line and redisplay T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: change an annoying name spamming gclan to something entertaining T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snewb looks around and whistles innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh yeah Celanil is right then. You capture the line and then output as you wanted it to. The tricky part is preserving the coloring. You can find some samples online though. I think Fiendish's plugin does it. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone else having issues with latest bast/mushclient setup. When I get a lot of items from a bag (say 120 potions) it freezes for a minute or two and stops responding. Hard drive is going very loudly sounds like it is doing a database save? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: that's bast's eq miniwindow T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: either disable the eqDB or type invmon T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth ) Figured as much - stinks it looks so pretty :) T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is the eq db plugins. I had to disable it too. T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Should I disable broadcast_invmon as well? T3/r5/2011-11-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ooo much better thanks guys :) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Huh, looks like Steam forums got hacked. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Except unlike Sony, they used basic data protection... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So all the hackers got was 12p49057109284092856ncvhihgjkhfq289y4h15k4u5 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only passwords and credit card info was encrypted T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which IIRC, was the same as Sony T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sony cc data was raw - hence the uproar T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And only forum info wasn't encrypted at Steam, account info (name, pwords, email, cc details, purchase history) was all hashed and salted T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Forum info is the only thing that got hacked...that's completely different than your regular steam account T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Of course, a lot of people probably use the same username and password for both T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I"ll forgive em if they give me a free copy of Skyrim T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It was all on the same server, as per the update news, so they got all the data, but only the forum data was human readable T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And Sony cc data was hashed, just not salted, IIRC. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Though it's been a while, so I might be misremembering T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh nods, you're right about Steam...reading the new info now T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Rumour is the apology giveaway will be Portal 2 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oooh I'll take it! T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Although I'm sure a very good number of their users have it already T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: like me...sobs (prob why they picked it, tbh) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, reading back on the Sony stuff, every indication I see is that the CC info was encrypted properly T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can give to friends but that would be awkard. So why do I have to sign up for steam? To get a free portal 2 I can gift you. Why did you get that from theM? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: phone numbers, passwords, email addresses, usernames, birth dates and account histories T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: were the unencrypted stuff T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sony said it was, but the hackers released a portion of it, and it wasn't T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Apparently DOTA 2 is the other giveaway: http://www.gamepur.com/news/6133-steam-compensate-users-free-copies-portal-2-and-dota-2.html T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Is there an easy way to import your maps or merge map databases? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: (In aardmush) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Probably not merge, but you can certainly import. See the "updating your client" section on the Aardwolf site T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Will do, thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Samsung still king of internal HDDs? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Were they ever really the king? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I dunno, I like Western Digital or Seagate but I haven't bought a new drive in a few years T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I miss Quantum :( T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For price v capacity v reliability, they were when I last built (~3-4 yrs) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Ah, I was thinking performance, which was and is WD Raptor series T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For extravagance it was all about Seagate though T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: We ran several 12 disk mirrored arrays in a lab I worked in, over 100 drives, found WD to be extremely reliable T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Not sure if you would want to buy a hard drive now though... prices are supposedly up due to the flooding in Thailand T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, this site hasn't updated their prices for HDDs in a few months :-P Guess they warehoused a bit T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: and that is why you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket, no matter how cheap it is to make. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SSD makers should be rubbing their hands with glee at this point T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: hey guys i need help, cant figure out how to use my phone as a modem for my pc T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's operating system dependent. What phone do you have? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: a corby txt T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: samsung corby txt* T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hang on, looking it up on Google... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luna Cat Eleksis peers around herself intently. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sorry, don't seem to find a way to do it. You sure it's possible? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: i had hoped so T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Try to find an option called Tethering, or Share connection, somewhere in the Menus... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: none T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Turielnaksndkasndalksdnas T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Turie lnaksndkasndalksdnas T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: kui sa nii |tled T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how to buy mob of healing T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: what? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: the mob that is for healing T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: for your manor, help manor upgrades. for healing, 1n of recall, heal heal T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: thank u snewb T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: np T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: hi T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how to make a trigger for hunt T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Download a plugin is the easier way to do it. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast. He has an autohunt script. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i use mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast. He has an autohunt script. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: oops. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: thank T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in MUSH, in a plugin, when an alias is omit from output it looked like this omit_from_output="y" if I wanted to add omit form ocmmand history, would it look like this? omit_from_command_history="y" T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vote Flygo goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: 42? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: 73 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetAliasOption T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see that link for the various alias options T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and yes omit_from_command_history is the right one T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that for my question eariler? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I got it working right. it was omit_from_command_history="y" its doing what I want now. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I had to go in and modify the plugin file itself. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: here's something weird for you... I had a sound that plays when I level... and sometimes there's a 10 second delay between the trigger firing (I get the gt message) and the sould playing. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: wats a domain T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: a player. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snewb ducks defensively. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: does anyone know if there's a way to play dragon age 2 on a computer without being in full screen? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: bold colors are blurry on my screen, is there a way to adjust resolution in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sounds like that is a graphics card issue. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to do %1 in mushclient like you can in zmud? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: %1 meaning what? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: use * in trigger window, %1, %2, etc in command part T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: hm, the graphics card supports detailed video games pretty well, shouldn't it be able to support mush if it shows like dragon age 2 or fallout 3 real clearly? thats why i wonder if its a setting or something T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: someone eats a big pie. trig: someone * a * pie. %1= eats, %2= big T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: try using a different font T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: is it a command alias? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's a trigger T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i dont want a trigger T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: for aliases: aliasname * T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You want an alias. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: example.. when i cast a spell ion a mob.. instead of having to do c solar i want to do an alias that does c solar %1. Just like I did in zmud T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rampagne: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Aliases T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There are some videos. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sol *, cast solar %1 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you might be better off using a mudside alias for that though T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use mud-side for all my attacks T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: maybe, but if you want to put the mobname into a var for other purposes, it'd be better to do it mush-side T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's more flexible for optional-parameters T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: ah thanks T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: now.. one more question T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: how do i do an alias where I can say mf isntead of mapper find T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: that hasnt been working too well T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to exec T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: ah T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mf *, mapper find %1 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what i can't figure out is how to use regexp things. they never fire for me :( T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use the "make regexp" button T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i don't T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: nice T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: thanks everyone T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you probably want to check out a regex tutorial online T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk goes off to google. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like http://www.regular-expressions.info/ T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: not gonna lie, i like mush client. it would be cool if the mapper could do what the zmud one does and find the shortest distance to an area T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It can. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it can T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: it does? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: the mapper can do that. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you just need to know the room id of the first room of the area T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: how.. i was looking around and couldnt find it T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the definition of "an area" is the main sticking point T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: it can even include portals T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: how do you program the mapper for portals? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: mapper portals T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: click that queestin mark buton T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: try winklewinkle's plugins, his mapper extender does all the heavy lifting for running to a specific area T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has a detailed setup for you. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: bid T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks a lot that's a really cool feature T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: where is the speedwalk feature to get shortest distance T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: mapper goto T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you just need the room number T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: mapper find works too if you got the room name T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: with ww's extender it's as easy as xrt , it takes mapper portals into account for the shortest route T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: are the portalwalks in the mapper connected to the runto command? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: any custom portals you have defined T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, goto T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the portals are used for calculating the shortest distance T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xrt just does mapper goto T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: gotcha T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it accepts areaname instead of room ID T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: the major advantage being you don't have to remember numbers T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i guess it helps if i get more areas mapped too T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: then i guess it can find the shortest distance easier T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll also want to visit all the open clan areaexits T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the biggest step for shortest paths T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: the really cool part I've found is as you collect and mark more portals, it'll use them as shortcuts to nearby areas automatically T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: saves a huge amount of running time T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: so if i make the portal commands correctly and im in the right level, the mapper will use portals if i do goto sometimes? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yep T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: sweet T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the most difficult part is that, until you try a portal in a room and get the magic walls message, the mapper can't know which rooms are prison T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: there's a feature that will automatically do a recall command from those rooms now T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: help says that mapper doesn't take tiers into account, but i'm trying to use portals below level locked level. is this an error in the help or the addon? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Does the mapper know to use "home" and manor exits if you have them and they are shorter? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but it doesn't know norecall either, until you try T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: does the mapper learn the portal shortcuts as soon as you walk through them? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: and learn the portals to areas once you've used them? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No. You have to explicitly add them in. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no, you have to input them raijon T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: ok T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you tell it portals T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: is there a way to tell the mapper to try portals first? got a garbage can, but he4s still always recalling T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the help says that YOU shouldn't account for tiers, the mapper DOES account for them T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: not really a prob.. but still.. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: that's the one hitch i've found as well.. it always prioritizes recall for me T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: damn... gotta redo my portals, then :( T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cyres, have you input the can as a portal? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: yup... and i set garbage can & recall as bouncerecall/bounceportal T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: recalling is one room less... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: oh wait, scrap that T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I don't like it because casting the spell is slower than using a can, and recall wastes moves T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: casting the spell? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: word of recall T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: word of recall T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no-moves recalling T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: word of recall sucks T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's extremely useful T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: sry... i mean it takes ~2-3 seks to move again after the spell T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i'd only use word of recall as a bounceportal if i never wanted to win a gq T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yeah, the delay is why I still don't use bounceportals.. since with it on, it'll always recall me instead of portalling T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'll only use word if you tell it to T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yep, but recall robs my moves, so after a few jumps I'm basically empty T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: how do you enable the link feature so you can click on the speedwalk T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mine came already enabled... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click on what speedwalk? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: in mapper output T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever command you used to get the speedwalk, don't use that command :P T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the goto commands T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't be asking the mapper to tell you a speedwalk and then mousing over to the output to click on it :P T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just tell the mapper to take you there T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: wow my brain actually did some work... instead of wasting 50%move i just set my recall alias to enter garbage;recall;move on ^^ T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: you can make mapper portal execute a natch command T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Erm, why do you still recall after you enter your can? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why even include recall in the ... yeah T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so it works in prison rooms T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk sighs. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So... just try again if it's in a prison room? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: way to outthink the system :P T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: what do you mean, try again? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if it's a prison room, portals won't work, period T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: at least that way i can be sure to end up at recall ^^ T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'll try T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: trying again won't make it miraculously work T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: it's actually a good idea, hehe.. you can't recall after you enter the can, but if you can't enter the can, it sends recall anyway T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Try again as in, think and manually recall instead of dumping it into the alias. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Some of us still have keyboards around here. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khorlan Tech: So... I'm using the Aardwolf Mushclient, and I've got a trigger that changes my prompt when my quest timer hits 0 to help remind me. I've also got an alias that changes the prompt back to normal when I quest request... The issue is that when I use the quest request alias, the prompt comes out doubled, like I get " instead of just . There is only one prompt statement in the alias... Any ideas? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't change your prompt, use an in-MUSH notice T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc one of bast's plugins pops up a big message when you can quest T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khorlan Tech: But I want it to appear all the time, which is why I'm using the prompt. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH can make it appear all the time T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what are you having the trigger put into the trigger? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Yeah, get Bast's plugin T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khorlan Tech: Ok, where can I get that, then? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: finger bast T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khorlan Tech: Cool, I'll try that. Thanks. :D T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: anyone know if mapper takes into account level for portals? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you set the level T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper portallevel T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i know but does it know that a tier 2 can use a level 20 portal at level 1? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the portal's real level, the mapper knows your tier...help mapper says this T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: it say to not account for teirs, it will account for them T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from thet description of that syntax line: Change the level lock on a stored portal Find the indices with 'mapper portals' Do no manually account for tiers T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: yea mapper for mush is really good T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i like how it auto creates for you T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Sure beats Zugg's wierd automapper. :P T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: now if only it could accoutn for locked doors T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: but there are ways around that so its not a big deal T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It doesn't do it automatically but you can add that. Or just get the passdoor wish (which will take care of most doors) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no good way to permanently account for locked doors, because you may not have the key in your inventory T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: yea im glad i can uninstall zmud T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: it was worth the 20 fdollars. i had it for over 3 years :p T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: is there a way to get a different tile set for the mushclent mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define tile set T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean something other than colored boxes connected with lines? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: yes... something like that... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not without a large amount of work T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: can we get 3d with stop motion animation? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the boxes aren't just tiles, they're drawn rectangles and lines T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: I think the cexit versatilitygossip help potsearch T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Botfail? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putrefy, you can change out the png files in worlds -> plugins -> images T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: mis :p T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the background textures are stored in the location Abelinc said T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so you can at least change those easily T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: Abelinc has anyone that you know of done something like that... to where there is a set already made? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doubt it T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: heh T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but putting in a proper tile set for rooms would require constructing a mapping between room types and tiles which doesn't exist, because tile sets don't exist T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ones I'm looking at seem to make enough sense...oceans are blue, etc T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno what's to gain by slight changes to the image files T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i don't pay attention to the colors too much myself anyway except for when there's red boxes...lol T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: would be nice to make the rooms more vivid... and not just one color... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they should be too small for that to really matter T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as small as the room blocks are, I can't imagine being able to fit much detail into them T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: this is polly true T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you probably wouldn't even be able to see it anyways, even if you could. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd love for someone to give me a really good tile set for the ascii map, though. I've always wanted to make it more graphical T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: if you were mudding on your 50" tv screen you could see some cool stuffs in the boxes :P T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unlikely. pixels are still pixels T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 50" TV screens have the resolution of 15" monitors :P T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even if a pixel is 1"x1", it's still only one pixel T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson feels an xkcd coming up... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Randall doesn't play Aardwolf T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://xkcd.com/732/ T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: ill defer to the experts on that one T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is such a great one T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's probably a few Angband (and maybe Nethack) tile sets floating around that would be decent for the ascii map. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I've seen another mud with a custom font for its ascii map, looked really nice T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: it was mostly little glyphs and colored boxes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need for custom font when graphics are more portable :-) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have too. The medievia font is nice for what it is, but hacking together a custom font isn't ideal T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: as far as resolution goes is there a way to get my bold colors to be more visible and less blury? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: raijon, you can change how the colors look, yes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In MUSH? You can select whatever color you want for the colors T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: do the sector images themselves change color? Like, the "inside" sector is two white square brackets. Can an "inside" sector be colored other than white and still be "inside"? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Dokkar: on the test port there's a help file with a list of all the sectors T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game --> configure --> ansi color for the basic colors T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: so maybe just make the bold colors lighter? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno how the lighter/darker and more/less color impacts xterm colors tho T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: its just my bold blue and bold red T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wasn't what I asked, though. There's only a relative few basic sector images, and the various hundreds of sectors are just colorized variations of those. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, yeah, click on those two, make them whatever shade you want T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how much is "relative few"? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Go look at the academy, Dokkar. I believe each section will have the same sectors as other sections, but be colored differently T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I stopped counting at a dozen, and I myself have collected data on just over 100 sector types. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can tell you that the highest sector id is 114 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: where is the help file for mush that shows me functions like LOOP T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: but, yeah, there are many different sector types that all use "[ ]" as their image, each one just colored differently as far as I can tell. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Rampagne: for looping you need to look at documentation for Lua T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a function list: help->function list. But loop isn't really a function T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: so my aliases and triggers should be lua? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: is that easier? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: mush doesn't have its own scripting language like zmud T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can be any number of languages. But if you don't have any preference, I'd suggest Lua. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i can program these in any language, i just want to know which is the ebst T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?lua=for%20%28numeric%29 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a couple functions that have more functionality in Lua. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: im not a programmer but i pick this stuff up somewht easily T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: what is tough for me about lua coming from zmud, is not being able to write everything out in a start / end / code in the middle style ... or maybe i just don't understand mush good enough T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish looks at Raijon ponderingly. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: what do you mean by start / end / code in the middle? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Lua is fairly logical and easy to learn, IMO. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: kind of a random thought T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: like class {whatever} / code / class 0 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: aah T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a great way to look at the coding differences between Mush and ZMud is by looking at lemdagor/prosper's island. Same exact thing, just with different terms. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I struggle to imagine why you would want to code like that in zMUD, Raijon T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: well i never really learned much about coding other than for playing this mud, so it just helped me to write it out and look at it complete T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: for a bigger picture i guess T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: but mush's interface is really easy to use, it just seems like you have to do everything piecemeal T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the zmud class pane is the same as looking at the mushclient plugin textfile. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know if you can add clan spellups to the new bast's spellup plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes if you change the plugin T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are two suggested methods here: https://code.google.com/p/bastmush/issues/detail?id=41 T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nice thanks Fiendish and whoever posted that issue - that worked well once I figured out the Spell number. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Now has anyone gotten gaias focus to work in the spellup plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: latest version of bast's T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to get the ".test" part to append to i when this runs for i=1,10,1 do print (i).test end. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putrefy Tech: i like bast's plugins... however... the winows always sart in the background for me... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: it keeps giving me an error for the .test part T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Is ( ) how you refer to variables? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: according to the help guide, yes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: print(tostring(i).."test") T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or print(i,test) if you're ok with there being a spac between them T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: space T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, maybe it was trying to see if .test was a property of the object type referred to by the variable i? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think you need double periods, but honestly don't know though haven't seen that way of using variables. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: ok ill try T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: thanls T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and () is NOT how you refer to variables T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't even know what language that is, though. Is it for MUSH? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: () has nothing to do with variables T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ack, my second suggestion should have been print(i,"test") instead of print(i,test) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i need a . T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so put in a . T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth gives Rampagne an '.' T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: print(tostring(i)..".test") T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: that "dont suck"? technically you want them to suck... or blow T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I want them to cool my computer and not break down T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury chuckles politely. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've never owned a laptop that needed a cooler T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: running cool is one of my requirements T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I also don't expect to play Skyrim on my laptop T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, step 1: don't have your laptop sitting directly on your comforter like I'm doing right now :-) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: What is the best way to match after a predetermined number of characters(ie, newline, after 20 characters, start matching) in mushclient. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: does regex have a fixed-width pattern? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: hello everyon! I have a question regarding plugins for MUSHclient. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that wasn't a question, heh T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead and ask questions, we don't need the preface :-) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: Is there a plugin that shows inventory items that works? I've seen videos on it T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you seen a video, then the answer is yes. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, download his zipfile T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: bastmush has one, I think? finger bast T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the video was a proof-of-concept, never a finished product T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the plugin that the video was using is on the mushclient site T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's is being actively worked on, so will be less buggy than gammon's proof-of-concept T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: and what is the site that I goto to download the Bast plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: fingerbast.com? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which I said immediately after your question ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: tubgirl.com T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "finger bast" T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type finger bast T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: I apologize for all of the questions, I'm not very good with this stuff...Yet. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to apologize :-) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: We are not worried. T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: so I unzip the Bastmush.zip into my mushclient plugins folder? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're used to aard, you wouldn't realize that players put their website into their "finger" info T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Paolini: yes T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click on the "wiki" link on bast's site...there are installing instructions and descriptions for his plugins on that section T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put the "Bast" folder from the zip under worlds/plugins T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: thank you so much :) I'm assuming i need to close mushclient before doing this T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush can be open T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: oh ok T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: you guys are all very great! Thanks so much for your help T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll be inside MUSHclient to add the plugins to the active world T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: ok so I unzipped it to the plugin folder and I don't see any new plugins? nothing that would suggest inventory window... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paolini, .Use File->Plugins to Add the plugins you want to use T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: ok T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want miniwin_eq T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: it says :"Could not load pluginlist(e8520531407cb4281bea544e) because the file was not found" T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you copy the entire bast folder under /worlds/plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: I just noticed it unzipped to the other folder, I just moved it into the plugins folder T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: do i move the Bast folder or the CONTENTS of the Bast folder? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: move the bast folder T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: That worked great! not to be "That Guy" but which one displays my inventory in a window? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: miniwin_eq T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: THANKS!!! You did it! LOL T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: is there a way to keep the INVdata from displaying on my screen? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type 'help invdata' T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: probably need a cr at the end of your prompts;run "plugins load fix" and then "fix prompt" after the plugin has loaded T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: i wish i knew what that meant... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: your plugins are amazing though!!! T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it means type "plugins load fix" and then type "fix prompt" when you get the message that the fix plugin has loaded T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and thank you T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: With the mapper, I started to cexit closed doors because of autorunning always messing up. (I don't have passdoor yet)... any reason why this would be a silly or bad idea? T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, that's what people generally do T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, it's pretty normal T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i still say fiendish should add a door flag to exits though T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: ahh good deal. Idiot checking myself =) T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to what end? you'd still have to custom add it T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcp doesn't send closed door info, just exit info T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the door flag? not necessarily... T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could trigger off the real exit line and the parentheses around exits, that's what i do to set doors in cmud T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't interwork well with gmcp, since they're not in sync T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're moving 1 room at a time, you cannot reliably use non-gmcp info T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: true T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: It could work like the no portal rooms-- as soon as a move in that direction fails, it picks it up T3/r5/2011-11-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it works in cmud cause i only enable that trigger when i'm in map mode, but mush doesn't have that T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: anyone else find that bast's 'sadd all' adds really odd stuff to the spellup list? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'm pretty sure I won't have toxic resistance any time soon. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to convince bast's spellup script that I really can cast a spell it thinks I can't? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: the only way i know how is ti restart your client T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know of a way to temporarily turn off backups in both Aardmush's mapper and Bast's statdb? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Alternatively, to suppress the batch window it pops up? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: nvm, got it - disable timers T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: In LUA - does anyone know how to send a carriage return to string several MUD commands together in one statement? Right now, I am using a new Send statement for every single action which works. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: try \n? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: acutally in the send commadn you can use ;'s T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, only in execute can you use ; T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but not Queue T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: iirc T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: tried /n in multiple ways... I am guessing this is a syntax thing. I'll play around and do some googling =). T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: wrong slash.., use backslash T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: oh woops - that was a typo, in the code I used "\n". (Just checked to make sure) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: ok, Redryn, gave up on Send and used Execute - worked like a charm.... Execute("rem 2002533 T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: woops - lemme try that again - Execute("rem 2002533\ T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Fail. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: LOL - Execute("rem 2002533 SEMICOLON wear 2002533") T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: can I add a parameter to my in-game alias? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: thought not.. thanks T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Anyone know how to clear cache on a haskell editor? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: is there a helpfile for command stacking in aardmush mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: what are you trying to stack? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: like.. take kai from bag;wear kai;enter kai;put kai in bag T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can do that with a normal alias, don't have to put it in the mapper. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that looks good to me T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: ah ok awesome. trying to figure out how to use portals from the mapper more effectively :) thanks T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. put that in an anias.. and map the alias to mapper T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: better to make an alias and then put that enter your mapper portal T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my wiki has a faq page on creating cexits and mapper portals T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: ah ok. thank you both bunches :) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my web page i mean... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: ... does not recommend putting anything in an anias... just sayin ;) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: awesome. ill check that out winkle. ty T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when you stack commands through the mapper portal command, you just have to double up your semicolons T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: why not crazybeard? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: ahh ok. that was the problem i think :) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you actually type "mapper portal blah;blah;blah" then the client parses that into "mapper portal blah" line break "blah" line break "blah", which is not what you want T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: instead you need to type "mapper portal blah;;blah;;blah" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you will still want to do it with aliases though T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure, aliases resolve this problem as well T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or a single alias that takes a parameter T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and are generally more flexible T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: ah ok. major help .. all of you T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Why would an alias be better? You want the portal in the map for speedwalk calculation... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or you could figure out yourself through trial and error what alias might work best, and just use that? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: On my web page is a section about portals and the mapper T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: An alias an a semi-coloned list won't actually be considered to be of any different lengths for the mapper. But an alias's meaning can be swapped out quickly, for example to change the bag you pull portals out of. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: An alias and* T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: s/and/as/ T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: If I'd need to change the bag, I'd go after the SQLITE3 table :-) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nice doc, Hosch T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can do that, sure. But you can't expect everybody to be able to do that. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: but yeah, via an alias it's easier T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If you need to work with SQL just to change a bag, I suggest you unplug yourself from some prosthetics before you face a nuke :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as advice, everyone one i know who mapped portals directly into the mapper, ende up having to rip them out and alias them, because of Jhav's reason of bads swapping.. different dual/hold configuration etc T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I love encapsulation :) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: for the hold/dual configuration I call "myhold" in the commands that are entered into the mapper T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the link Hosch. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: and I change the "myhold" macro to "hold XYZ" or to "dual ABC", according to my level T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I, on the other hand, am happy when I win a GQ because I know I earned it ;) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I am also happy when Trurien wins a gq. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I know I earned it T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish runs away in utter terror! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I don't use any Fiendish products. :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I am happy when I win a GQ because I know nobody else was competing in it! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah me neither T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That too, Doink :) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: You think it would be possible to create a graphical AArdWolf client, using an engine somewhat akin to Bard's Tale? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, not really T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the amount of processing of JUST the text would be prohibitively laggy. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: Would the problem be communication, or do you see a different issue? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: here's an experiment you can try. Make a trigger that matches on every line and have it do something simple, like making it all caps. You should see some severe lag as that one trigger tries to keep up. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: But in effect, every AARdwolf client has triggers that fire off for every line of text. The command is "display this line of text on the screen." T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's prior to the scripting parser. Which is essentially what you're text-to-pictures graphical client would be doing. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I've set up triggers that beep for each keystroke and boop for every line of text recieved.. that way it feels like I am playing Aard on some government computer in the movies :D T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: haha T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Not really but it would be a real test of willpower to keep playing a game like that T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lamya: when you say "Bard's Tale" do you mean the remake or the original? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone have a note formatter function for cmud? everything i can think of seems to fail, unless i do nested ifs to keep checking line size T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any reason why a trigger consisting solely of an asterisk (non-regex) wouldn't be matching channels in MUSHclient? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's matching all other lines. Just not channels T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could something else be matching first? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not unless it's in some plugin :\ T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could try a trace - its spammy as hell but works T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: trace? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you changed the priority? or whatever mushclient calls it....Fiendish's com log matches channels, but can't imagine that would be the issue. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ctrl+Alt+T or Game->Trace It's spammy though I'll warn you T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Will try changing sequence, but I would all the triggers in his would be set to keep evaluating T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: let's see... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Huh, changing the sequence worked T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Clearly another plugin out there. Trace might help you find what it was. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: test T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sucess? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Success* T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I lied. Changing the sequence didn't solve it. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Trace? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: TRACE: Matched trigger "^{chan ch=(?\w+)}(?.*)" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: TRACE: Executing trigger script "chats" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is the only other thing that matches on the line T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'll see if I can find that trigger T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: chats is the name of the plugin as listed under Ctrl Shift P apparently T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to capture channels for? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: He is trying to capture ALL mud output, but it not capturing channels. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: next question, why is he trying to capture all output? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: At certain times, I'm trying to omit all lines and send all lines to a log T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: omit all lines? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yes, at certain times T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you want to know why it's not omiting channels? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yep T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because channel display is printed, not directly from the mud T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's what I thought might be the case. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the reason is complicated and may change to not be the case in the future T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but basically the communication log plugin captures channels, omits them from output, and then prints them back out without the tags T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you care a lot about why that's done, see this forum thread... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But triggers can still match on it, just not omit it? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6356 T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I would assume there would've been a lot more complaint if you couldn't match on channels, period. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm sure you can still match on it T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just don't do anything to replace text inline T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because it will get undesired results T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Now I just need to figure out why send to log isn't working. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (not for channels, for other stuff) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure about the logging stuff, but there is a logging function that I made myself in the chat capture plugin T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so if you can't get it working, you can take a look at that T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: OK. I might just be doing it wrong T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The trigger is firing. It sends %0 to log, and omits the line. In the logging section, I have log output/commands/notes all unchecked, but do have a log file selected. The trigger isn't updating the log file, though T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's a file in my documents, so shouldn't have any problems with permission. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And if I do send to notepad (append), it works fine. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But that's kind of ugly T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hrm, logging isn't working at all, evidently. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: commands, output, anything T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Where is the logfile? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: my docs T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Specifically: C:\Users\Bob\Documents\MUSHclient\logs\foo.txt T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: BOB T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's not *actually* bob, but you get the point :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Well, that was my only theory T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anywho, House M.D. trumps MUSHclient issues T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So semi-afk T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is log session checked in the File menu? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: checked? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: brings me to a sub-menu gui T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Oh, maybe I have an older version or something T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: 4.76 T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh wait, now it's checked T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hrm T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, I'm throughly confused, but it works now, and House is on T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: I don't know if it needs to be checked if you are triggering stuff to your logs per your earlier discussions T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Terra Nova is on :) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorimus Tech: how do i turn off my stats that pop up everytime i move? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: statmon? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if one clears the itnernet files and history in IE, can someone tell if porn sites have been visited? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: possibly T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: private browsing is your friend, moron T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: popups T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: file recovery tools, for one T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I mean a casual user T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: dont be looking at that kiddie porn Koji! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no downloads or tools T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Relicbane Tech: casual user no T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: stop sharing the computer with your mom T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: omfg relicbane T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or at least have your own account T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Relicbane Tech: hey :) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: good luck purging the isp logs. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or use a decent browser with porn mode. even ie should have it T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: Well, most people don't clear their history for no reason, so it should be pretty obvious anyway. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah, use firefox in private browsing mode or chrome in incognito mode T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: or use firefox's delete history from past x hours feature T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's how I hide all my porn surfing on company laptops T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: e T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mis T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I accidentally saw a japanese tentacle porn site and I don't want my wife to find out T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinso Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: "Accidentally" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: Surrrre, accidentally T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: japanese tentacle porn is on wikipedia T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. accidentally T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Kojiro accidentally Japanese tentacle porn. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yeah, um.. me too T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I accidentally foudn redtube at a young age too T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did you accidentally the whole thing? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: red-tube at a young age? i'm envious T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just say you were researching the dream of the fisherman's wife T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the only reason I'm embarassed about seeing jtp is because of how unimpressed I was by it. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no I shut it down really fast, but the history might have logged it before i could close the window T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I also 'accidentally' downloaded every single video and accidentally encrypted the drive they are on, and accidentally kept it until this day. Strange how accidents happen T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snewb is agreeing with that Chaz Bono Cheezburger person again... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: your history captures it before the page even loads T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: kids these days... i had to wait for pictures to load for like 5 minutes on dial up. it took ages to find the right one T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well not all the window things had loaded yet, just the main picture/video thing T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Word to the wide, my friend, in-private browsing. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: wise* T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a friend of mine has this theory that if you use porn terms in a search engine then every subsequent search ever done on that computer will include porn results. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no idea if he's right or not, though, since I don't know anyone with a pure computer we could use as a control. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Puhlease, I've searched some pretty raunchy terms, and when i good 'my little pony' on a daily basis, no porn comes up :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: goog T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: google*, f my spelling today. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: the bigger issue here, of course, is that you google my little pony on a daily basis. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I went into internet options and deleted everything + history so i should be good, rightt?????? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I do what I want! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the ways of the mxit are subtle, my friend. You must not give in! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Relicbane Tech: a good forensic investigator could probably find your history going back several months, regardless of browser and if "private" mode was on, but generally clearing cache is good enough T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Uninstall the explorer, your mud client, then for format /Y in cmd and you should be good. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinso Tech: You're good until your wife asks you why you deleted your history :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: empty history? easiest way to see if anyone has been watching porn T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my friend sent me the link. I thought it was about deficiency claims for terminated repurchase agreements in broker-dealer liquidations, but it was "JTP" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: poor thing T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's circumstantial. It'll never hold up in court. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: does this friend come over, or otherwise have access to your computer? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i bet "your wife" is actually your mom T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no they sent the link over IM T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And your friend is you T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: who cares how you got the link. The point is that if he comes over and uses your computer then you have an alibi. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well I'd rather it just get off computer so i don't have to lie or make my friend look like a pervert T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if she happens to ask why your history is empty, just tell her "the truth"--that your perv friend came over and made a bad decision with your property. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I changed it to delete all history when the browser closes and told her it's so we don't get viruses T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hell, at least one of my girlfriends was into tentacle porn T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe your mom is, too T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: don't let the proper mannerisms fool you. Girls are crazy for anything that looks phallic. That's why the toy industry is so popular. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's wrong with tentacle porn anyway? nothing to be ashamed of T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pretty much anything you can imagine is bound to be /someones/ fetish T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a little bit of porn on the computer is not hurting anyone T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: depends on if kids are involved (in using the computer). T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: look at cheez though, he turned out fine T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: trust me, the kids watch more porn than adults T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: which is a real accomplishment with as much porn as the adults watch T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but i started out with a little bit more than a 'little' bit of porn and progressed to rugburn T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: still doesn't mean you're allowed to let them. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: do you have a fleshlight? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nope, a girlfriend. Even bette.r T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: fml i cannot type today T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you want your kids wanking to lingerie magazines? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that one couple got into serious trouble and had their kids taken away because they went full-frontal demonstration with the birds and the bees. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you say that like it's a bad thing. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you're old enough you should know how much that sucks T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: best tech convo ever T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, if/when I have kids, I won't give a damn if they watch porn. If they're old enough to get kicks out of what they're seeing, they're old enough to need it anyways. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Walking in on my parents having sex was bad enough. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And now i remember my childhood... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if you teach them to jerk off before puberty they won't even make a mess T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger takes one look and turns green as he starts to gag. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: did anyone else just panic a bit when chico suggested he might procreate? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yeah...guess we should spoof tech's IP so it looks like we're on another channel... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never walked in on my parents. or maybe i have repressed memories. i'm happy about that either way T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: far as I ever got was some quick snuggle-time between an aunt and uncle. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I tried repressing the memory and that didn't work. Now I just drink until I can't see all the wrinkles in my head. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i walked in on my parents banging and my dad told me to go play nintendo T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: come to think of it, maybe that's what distracted me and got my finger smashed in the plank door. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I got the whole 'it's a laying down hug' spheal T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, kojiro, use porn mode in the future and flush the tissues. people notice if they pile up T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Yeah, a trashcan full of kleenix is a dead giveaway T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: never say my folks, heard em a couple times, even worse T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: ok maybe not worst T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And a sock that stands up on it's own, beware of those T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: thank you all for the help T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're welcome. happy wanking T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: definitely worse to hear it and then have the mailman come out of the room. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In-private browsing, you'll love us once you find it. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: heh T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's a mailman? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: also, resist the urge to talk to the porn while you wank, it travels through the ventillation ducts. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I was torn between "Daddy?" and "Who the hell are you?!" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Make sure the headphones are plugged in, too T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shameful Dugrant nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's a lot louder than it appears with headphones on if you only think they're plugged in, trust me T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Having your computer mute by default is a good practice. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it can do that? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I just have chrome mute by default T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or you could move out from your parents place. problem solved T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: And if you must download porn, get an encryption program and use virtual folders. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Don't want to hear 'you've won' ads talking to me anyways. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: that! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or make one of those 'invisible' desktop folders :-P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Inivisble folders are easy to find, virtual ones are a lot harder. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dugrant - i have a better solution. a folder called "manuals" under my documents. NO ONE will find it there T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: truecrypt and a usb key, learn it, use it. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also ironic as hell T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or store it on a cloud and password lock it so it's not physical yours at all :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Oh, never thought of that. Good one, cheez. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 30 levels deep in Application Data? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and turn off indexing for the folder T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: otherwise it doesn't really matter where it is T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, the one flaw in that Vak is the recent documents features in modern OSes. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: My cousin found out that deep folders is a lame way to hide porn, since I replaced it with 30 copies of the trololo video. He had some weird stuff in there. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: search + grep + mv == 30 gigs of rick asley instead of what you thought you had :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Easiest option? A personal computer you treat as a temple T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't overcomplicate things. do you honestly think that anyone would open a folder called "manuals"? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Oh, didn't even think of rick rolling him! Damn! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: If I was looking for porn on a computer, yes. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: if they need a manual maybe T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: men don't read manuals T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's enough to get you disowned in my family. Deleting porn is like stealing girlfriends. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Like it's hard to find anything on a computer if you're explicitly looking for it T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: they not worried about the men prob T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Except that goddamn game you saved somewhere and can't find, that always happens T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: instructions, Dag. Men spend a lot of time with "manuals". T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Oops, deleted desktop icon...ok now wtf is the actual exe... T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Idom Tech: could prob do a search for porn types T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's why you turn off indexing T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You'd basically turn up any/all .avi files :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is anyone not on flv files for internet grabs at this point? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Entire music video collection in 10 seconds that way T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: live bootable linux CDs are great for finding porn. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: TBH, there's no point to save porn, especially if other people use your computer (the blasphemy). Just use free sites, there's thousands of them. Up until this year porn was the largest portion of the interwebs (now it's social networking) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't really hide my porn. i just tuck it away far enough that it doesn't pop up if you're searching for something else T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Do beach vacation pics count as porn? bc if they do social networking is just another p-hub T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I store mine on my desktop. I'm a grown man and if you want to frown on me for having porn, good for you wtf are you touching my computer? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: huh? you're a grown man and had redtube as a kid? that doesn't make sense :\ T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it wasn't redtube exactly T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm a junior deputy of the purity police. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: But the same general scheme T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mebbe he is 18 now and had it last year when he was a kid? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: think it was called hqtube or somesuch T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm 19, close though :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: when i was a kid streaming video meant realplayer logo and "buffering" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: OH GOD QUICKTIME T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, gimme that 3 seconds before you lag again OH YEAH T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i remember having to safe mode+networking my parent's computer to get admin account to watch porn and play muds :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i actually sat in a conference call last week and I heard You've got Mail. on the other end, everyone on our side look at each other, muted the call and laughed T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: In my day streaming video was trying to make out nudity through static on channel 94 T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and waiting for nekkid pics on dial up for minutes. also britney spears head shoops on them T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: pictures on dialup, displaying about an inch every 10 minutes. I didn't get past the nips until BBSes finally died off. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And that one kid at school with the floppy disk with Strip Nibbles and Sextris on it - the only cool nerd T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good old pixellated porn T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: See, I was the 'cool nerd' with a flash drive full of roms/emulators so kids could game in school :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: kids these days get streaming hd porn on their mobiles. get off my lawn! T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless they were booby roms, you were only nerd cool, not cool cool T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Roms on a flash drive? You ARE young Cheezy. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: Anyone who has experience with MUSH client and triggers that has a moment? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it had both, proxy hackers for surfing, sniffers for data enterception, allowed kids full access to whatever they wanted :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is your problem related to porn, bloodweaver? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: told ya man, 19 T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger laughs at Seltsimees Dagnir mercilessly. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: I'm afrain not hehe. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: Afraid^ T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Sorry, I don't often pay attention to you Cheezy. It's understandable that I might miss that. :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh god, my script kiddie alarm just went off T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Throw up the q, someone should answer T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You've picked an unfortunate time for tech question, you've called tech support during booby hour. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we had cable, when adult channels weren't completely blocked/pay to see. I remember Playboy had this cool colorized silohette thing of a stripper on just dancing away for hours. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: wrong channel for techie stuff, bloodweaver T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what the hell is a proxy hacker? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Try back later, the servers are busy... with porn. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a fall guy T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: Ohh, I was directed here. Sorry. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I found Naked News when I was 18...good times (also, this is the right channel for what you want BW) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Right channel, wrong moment. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Basically spoofed the school's tracking system and said it was on innocent stuff like yahoo, google, ask.com, etc. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still doesn't make sense T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: Didn't mean to interrupt the... current topic. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It was a really dummed down web client that didn't broadcast it's actual location and used a ssh tunnel at my house to direct them to where they wanted. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hey, no worries. one thing leads to another T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it went on for a few minutes, more than long enough for most of us. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i wasn't uber techy at that point, i couldn't tell you exactly what it did. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, ok. now that's called "a tunnel", not "proxy hacker" T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Lame security on the schools side allowing the SSH port to work. >.> T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: doesn't sound as awesome, but it's less douchey T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: nah, the tunnel itself still registered if you didn't couple it with the makeshift client T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Dugrant: They didn't. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not lame security. it's proper security T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I had the IT guy open up 22 so I could game :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you use ssh, you deserve to get out T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Him and I were cool. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Ah, less important what you know than who you know. Yes the adage does apply. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: originally i had to host my server on 80, but when i started hosting a website, that became an issue :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i always leave ssh open on all public networks i install T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I would love to be on one of your networks Dagnir. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: As long as the port isn't open open without a stupid 'guest' account, ssh is pretty secure T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: with* T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i once SSH'd into a public guest account that didn't block either chmod or sudo, so the fact that the account itself had no right was pointless. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm talking about routers. i block everything but 80, 443, 53, 21 and 22 T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 'nobody that knows linux will use this account' is never a good philospohpy T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if i'm installing public wifi for an establishment T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: any reason you block 8080? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why would i leave it open? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Leaving the router itself open is fine, unless the primary server machine runs a server on those ports, the user will just hit a blank screen and go no further. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It's alternate HTP. Sometimes it's forced to security. Not always done, but happens enough that I usually leave it open. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: never had a problem. i have actually forgot what it was for :P T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: HTTPS sometimes uses 8080. I had a few complaints, and have seen no reason not to leave it *shrug* not a game killer though. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: most https will piggyback 80 i thought T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: most will, not everybody. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: https is 443 T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: it's 443 usually. I've had a few instances where it was forced to 8080 for some reason. When I researched it the documentation I found listed 8080 as an HTTP/S hybrid secondary. It's not used much anymore, but Govenment servers seem to run it as gospel for some unknown reason. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my government has a decent infrastructure :) T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I think the IRS was using 8080, but that was 3-4 years ago now. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn. it's 5.30 am T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: 7:26pm on the best coast T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: off to bed, no time for porn either T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: so....since the whole porn thing seems to have moved on.....can anyone tell me what the NP column stands for in bast's spellup plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: don't all speak at once, I can't handle the spam. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: not practiced T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Not Practiced. It tells you if you click it. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: can't click it, not displaying the window. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: but thanks. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: okay, next question: is there a way to convince the spellup script that, yes, I have in fact practiced a skill/spell? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: slist, perhaps? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: just added it, and it told me I haven't learned it. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it's like it can't detect skills/spells that are accessible by being a tier. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there a prefered way to create an alias to switch sets? or is it just "get X bag, remove y, wear x"? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Anyone know where in the db portal commands are stored? T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Exits. T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: is there a way to get AUCTION to show up in miniwin and not in my main window? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: u can look plugin T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: what is command to see who is using what clients? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: I don't think a mere mortal can tell who is using which client but how many is, well, client T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: reason im asking is cuz i downloaded an aardwolf app for my motorola xoom T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: the command is "clients" T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: what do i type to show my miniwin EQ window? it's active in the plugins but not showing? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: 'mneq show' T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paolini Tech: didn't do anything? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: then reinstall broadcast_inventory, xeqDB, and miniwin_eq T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: I know that with ColourNote() I can send a colorized line to the mushclient log. Is there also a way to change the color in the middle of line? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Use ColourTell or AnsiNote T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if i take tags of certain channels, will it stop sending to my communication window in aardmush or will it just crash it? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: off of* T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you're using the latest aardmush with gmcp? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: does any one know where i might be able to request a plugin to be built? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: if you have a feasible idea, it'd be best to talk to someone like fiendish or bast about it, but since it is all volunteer work, there is no gaurentee T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: okay thanks T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can also talk about it here T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know how to create an array in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Yes: a = {} table.insert(a, VALUE) and so on T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: where do i put that? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I mean, you can talk about it here, so people can tell you if it's even possible/worthwhile to pursue, etc, or gametalk, or gossip, blahblah, mostly i liket o chat while i'm at work :P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: That's a little bit of Lua-Code. It's the low-level way of inserting something into a Lua array T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: You'll need to put it into Lua code or into the script section of a lua plugin T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk groans loudly. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: how do i stop code like ({invitem}692292302,M,A Djinn's cloud ring,153,7,0,-1,-1) this comming up? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Gorsk, maybe you start with something simple and modify it. Some little existing plugin, for example, that you first change, Just to get a feelin' ... T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: "help tags", here probably "tags inv off" T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Hmm, no actually I'm not sure about "tags inv ..." T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: it's probably the "invmon" command T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remarto Tech: na i just had to type tags off T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a way to remove things from a string in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: check lua and string manipulation T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i'm getting -alot- of results... T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: just check lua documentation and string T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: That means a lot of answers. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: maybe i shouldn't have maximized search capabilities... :( T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: string.gsub i think T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i'll check that, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Whats the best/easiest way of speeding up my PC (have 4GB of ram, but only using XP) ? Removing any bloatware? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: New GPU? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: an ssd drive if you haven't got one T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: If you have a lot of miscellaneous junk loading on start up, that's a good place to start for easiest T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does a bloated browser cache yet cause slowdown these days T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: not for XP, it doesn't write them properly, it would write the same areas over and over and kill the drive rather than cycle the writes as proper OSes do with SSDs T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: format and reinstall T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I didn't know that. there's no fix for xp doing that? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Even a student license for 7 is $115 for me T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how long does a SSD last on XP? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: assuming reasonable usage T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: There are a few workarounds, but nothing that works completely from what I've read T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: forever more or less? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: not really, but comparable to "old fashioned" HDs T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: no, would require MS recompiling key portions of the OS and it would prefer to drive people from an obsolete OS :P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: still, it's probably the best bang-for-the-buck upgrade given the proper OS T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't like the newer iterations of microsoft ): T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: That's for the operating system only? Or everything if you can afford it (I cant haha) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: If you want something a bit riskier, you could download the developer evaluation of Windows 8. :) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeah SSD, more memory are the top two options. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Technically free until it's released, but probably a bit buggy yet T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: from what i've seen of windows 8, i think i'll hate it :/ T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: vista/7 have been fine for me, you can turn on "classic windows" view if that's the big complaint T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i don't see anything awesome in xp that i'm missing here T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Yeah, not sure I'm going to like the start screen they replaced the start menu with T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ^ that T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can put it on "classic view" T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I actually downloaded it to toss on an old PC, I haven't gotten around to trying it though T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: and it'll look/function the same T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: But without spending $250 or so on an SSD and Windows 7...best bet is basically remove bloatware and/or reformat? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh, that might be better i guess T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: if you reformat you'll usually get that temporary snappy feel to your system T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: until it re-bloats T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though i'll still whine about it taking up space and so on T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: formatting is usually the best T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What about Vista? I can get an upgrade for $30 for that but most people have told me XP is a better os...? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: especially if it's been years, since there'll be lots of stuff around T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: vista will probably slow you down T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i had no serious problems with vista but i didn't get it until sp2 T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Vista isn't bad, it got a bad rap from it's early driver issues. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Windows 7 is better, but I used Vista for quite awhile without any real issues. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I'd go with a real disk defrag before reformat, Perfectdisk made my messed up 4 year old craptop work like it was almost new. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Im using diskeeper pro T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I liked perfectdisk but I switched to diskpeer also T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: diskeeper* T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: used diskeeper, using perfectdisk pro now, diskeeper killed 3 raid arrays on me. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: that's horrible T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: good thing I only boot into windows to game nowadays :P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: yeah found out it didn't like the promise raid controller I had :P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Maybe I'll just sell this one and buy a new one T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ugh... i can't seem to find anything in help files for string manipulation T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: at least not anything useful T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: to remove something from a string, look at string.sub T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or maybe string.gsub, can't remember which T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk sighs and returns to reding helpfiles. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Gorsk: http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what are you trying to do T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if i wanted to change "Erato's Awakener Of Desire" to "Erato Awakener Desire", how would i do that? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: string.gsub("Erato's Awakener of Desire", "'s", "") T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and then something similar for the of T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so 2 lines? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: depends on what you're doing with the string.. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's the simplest way, but I suppose you could come up with a regex to do both, good luck with that T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i want to remove words like a, the, on, of, with, etc from strings. they're never keywords and they just get in the way T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or you can do string.gsub("Erato's Awakener of Desire", "Erato's Awakener of Desire", "Erato Awakener Desire") T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do it bast's way T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Assuming "s" is the variable holding the string, you can do s:gsub("'", "") T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: true, but I figured he wanted a more generic solution T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hosch Tech: Note the color after s T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: cool, thanks. i'll try that T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: how poor of performance would a Nvideo GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256 ddr3 sdram have? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shrugs helplessly. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: depends on what you want to with it T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: run an MMo like star wars, its my brothers mac T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd do google search "gpumodel mmoyouwanttoplay" T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there some special way to tell a script that it's calling an alias in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: cause it's totally ignoring the call and sending the name straight through as a mud command T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Execute() T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah, excellent. thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Execute() treats things as if you typed them on the input line T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Send() bypasses the alias parser and sends directly to the game T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is that 9400 m a wicked old graphics card T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Lol, the internet has come full circle. Back in the days of dial-up, I bemoaned recieving phone calls, because it would dconn me. I recently got rid of my cable, so now I USB tether my Evo. So back to being kicked off whenever I get a phone call....:( T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: truly, technological singularity is now T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Parallel is agreeing with that Xyrico person again... T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: so 1 580gtx or 2 560ti's sli'd T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone know if SSD's come from Tailand T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I imagine some might T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what's wrong with this line?: Execute (mapgo ArrayGet ("rooms", "%1")) -- mapgo is an alias i created T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need quotation marks T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: where? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Execute expects a string T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try Execute("mapgo "..ArrayGet("rooms","%1")) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: sweet! it worked :) thanks T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: how do i install the upgrade without losing my mapper db? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: copy the mapper db to somewhere out of the way, install, then copy the db back. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: There are instructions on the Aardwolf site. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: install in a seperate dir or copy your db. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Upgrading T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how would i make a trigger that could hold the "NUKES" part of: "<-*-><*><-*-> NUKES <-*-><*><-*->" in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's the special chars that mess me up T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: escape them with '\' T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: \<\-\*\-\>\<\*\>\<\-\*\-\> (\w+)\s T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Nod, use the \ before each special char. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: change the damtype then, you can get rid of the string or have pimpslaps T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: dam 2 T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks guys T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: thanks for the help ya'll, i lost my entire mapper earlier, now its back! T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the \'s aren't helping. the thing's not firing :( T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oh, wait, i see a problem T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: nope, still doesn't work T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: \<\-\*\-\>\<\*\>\<\-\*\-\> NUKES \<\-\*\-\>\<\*\>\<\-\*\-\> T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: reg expression box checked? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oh, so that's what i was missing T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lapped my ihs and cooler base yesterday. now running E8400 with cores on 45C under load. ihs temp is ca 10 degrees cooler T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: in "\<\-\*\-\>\<\*\>\<\-\*\-\> NUKES \<\-\*\-\>\<\*\>\<\-\*\-\>" i tried replacing NUKES with a * and treating it as %1, but that didn't work amd made the trigger stop firing, any advice? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: (*) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Is this a regex, or...? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ya, regexp T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then (.*) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Don't use () unless you're wanting to capture it. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...or, for that matter, you can match it exactly with (NUKES) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and, yeah, what Oladon said, but I think you said you wanted to capture it T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: nod, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: how do i remove the map in the main window? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: which file do i transfer to keep my aliases and macros and keypad settings when i upgrade mushclient? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: delete T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Raijon there are upgrade directions on the aardwolf.com download page. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Here is a direct link: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That only talks about importing the files not saving them. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chillycat, which map in the main window, and are you using a particular MUD client? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: i just installed bast plugins and now there is a map each time i move to a new room T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags"...verify that the bottom says Global is On, and that Map is YES T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: what plugin do i remove to get rid of invmon errors? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: yeah T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try reloading bast's eq plugins T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: eq ones. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Those do not like mass numbers of potions. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: did not seem to work, this is what i see... {invmon}1,653165926,-1,26 T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you removed the plugin, then you would see that unil you type invmon T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: that worked thx T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know what's wrong with this line?: Execute ("alias_name ","variable name","%1")) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i get: string "Trigger: "]:2: unexpected symbol near ')' as an error T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: with the mapper - everyone's ID numbers for rooms are unique I am assuming? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone's are the same T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The numbers are the same. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every room in the game has an absolute number T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: but not all are shown T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: recall is always 32418 T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much the only ones not shown are closed clan rooms T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the room keys are unique to whomever created the room. For example, if Fiendish gave you a base map db and he then mapped Area X in his copy while you mapped Area Y in yours (and then shared each), the vnums for those two areas would not match. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and? abelinc? and..? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: MAZES! T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no slodhian T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mazes show you the UID T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: oh!! I thought they were generated dymanically clientside. Glad I asked then :). I am doing some aliases and such and was hesitant on using the numbers - in case I need to redo my DB at some point (gets corrupt, bad upgrade, etc) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: I meant the difficult ones. not normals :P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: but it can't navigate them T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: forexample, you could run into some storm while running into daktai T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh slodhian? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know what's wrong with this line?: Execute ("alias_name ","variable name","%1")) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gorsk, what is that line supposed to do? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: two )) one ( T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: looks like it's supposed to send two arguments to an alias T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you dont need variablename in " " T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: same with %1 T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: and brackets dont match *grin* T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk sighs. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: np ( T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no worries )) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: slodhian, how does running into the storm while running into daktai have anything to do with rooms displaying their UID? hopelessly lost is 37002. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and next one? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which next one? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: ahha, made you check T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: riiiight T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so, i did: Execute ("alias_name ",variable_name,%1) and i get 2: ')' expected near 'greedy' T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: use .. to append the alias name. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: like this?: Execute ("..alias_name ",variable_name,%1) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: between the variables etc T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it's like addint things to string. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: "why " .. " bother" etc T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm still going back to what is the line trying to do? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: do i still put the .. in front of the alias name? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: I still say that you need to do the manipulation before execute T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we can help with sanitizing syntax, but whether it does what you're looking to do depends on what you think it's doing :P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: also try to read about sendto special.. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's gonna send 2 strings to an alias. the first string is the name of the variable, the %1 is the string itself. the alias modifies the string and places it into the variable T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where is this going to be called? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seems an awfully convoluted way to set a variable... T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: numerous applications, i can take the a's out of items for instance T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: if you use variable T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: put it in, read it into script and then use that in execute T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just use the substring where you need it without the a T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: here is simple example LevelTier = %1 + ier * 10;Execute ("gear " .. LevelTier) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: nod T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and ier is actually @tier T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: which is mushclient variable T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it's not pretty, but it works :) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: to program a portal into automapper should you be standing in the room where the portal takes you to? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth clears his throat loudly and looks around. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mischan - sort of... T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathlok Tech: any way to purge all the portals on the mapper T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: mapper purge portals T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc mapper help gives syntax for it T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathlok Tech: thanks:> T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathlok Tech: kept trying help mapper T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathlok Tech: danke T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc there's a "?" in the corner of the mapper you can click on T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: you can also read the plugin in notepad.......:p T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cleaner to read it as file -> plugins, highlight it and click "show info"...just the help in MUSH's notepad T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't care for how mush covers its screen with it tho T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: true T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hate the mushclient notepad T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: thought you could set a different editor. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I think I'm using vim. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes if you do shift+ctrl+6 and uncheck Use inbuilt notepad T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, neat...in file -> plugins, that still uses the built-in notepad on a show info, but uses what you specify when you click edit T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder if it's possible to specify a linux app T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, it doesn't deal with spaces in file paths T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: spaces in file paths are tricky T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: file paths in general on windows are tricky T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I clicked on edit, it opened 3 blank files in my editor..."Fiendish", "MUSHclient", and the name of the plugin T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "D:\Fiendish MUSHclient 1431" is the path T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're so out of date. I released two updates today T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have FiendishMUSHclientOld, FiendishMUSHclientJune, FiendishMUSHclient, FiendishMUSHclient May, FiendishMUSHclient 1309 and that one T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eheh T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm hoping to have a long stable period so I can do another official release T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the extra spaces before 1431 are so it's sorted first :P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they should make file systems that sort semantically T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the filesystem wouldn't know how I want it sorted, though T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right. the shell, then. if you choose to sort by name should sort semantically instead of treating letters as bits T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: windows sorting correctly puts 1309 before 1431, I just don't want it to be in this case...I usually do want it in that order T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 10 should come after 9, eg T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, getting rid of the need for leading zeroes should be done T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, FiendishMUSHclientOld is just under 20MBs...the latest folder is 73.3MBs...db_backups folder at 46.9MBs without me exploring a single room :-) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: db_backups isn't my fault T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can clear out your backups any time you want T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know, and it's definitely a good thing to have for someone actually using MUSH :-) T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: i just wish the backups wouldnt fire off in combat lol nearly killed me twice so far T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uncompressed backups are very fast T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: should be less than a round of combat on any machine T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but yes, that is on the list of annoyances T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how big is a relatively-complete mapper db file? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a bit under 15MB T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: i just look at it as the client getting angry for allthe plugins i have loaded and taking revenge. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though people who updated to 1431 may find their databases larger because I didn't add in the vacuum command until the next update T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vacuum command? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: vacuum shrinks the db file by dropping free space that used to be tables that have since been dropped T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it can also reduce fragmentation T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I need to see how long it takes to run on a computer that doesn't have a crazy fast cpu and ssd T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: before I make it run at every startup T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right now it just runs once at the end of a schema upgrade T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess I should probably force everyone to do it with another upgrade T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.sqlite.org/lang_vacuum.html T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: Would anyone have a moment to help me with triggers on Mush? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's up T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: I just sem to be having trouble making them activate in combat. Is there an easy way to have the client recognise when it is in combat? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on your threshold for "easy" T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your combat status is sent by gmcp and is also indicated by statmon T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and can be put into your prompt T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: :P Okay. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: I will try adjust my prompt and have it recognise something from my prompt. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well all you need to do is make your battleprompt differ in some way from your normal prompt T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I prefer the gmcp method, of course, but it's more complicated than just writing a simple trigger T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: adding and tags is probably easiest T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: Okay, I am going to try that :) much thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and since I don't know what you're trying to do, I'm just going to point at 'help botting' as a precaution T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodweaver Tech: Okay I will review the rules! T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i have a question about the daily bless T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what according is the imm tive daily bless T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what according is the imm give daily bless T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: daily bless T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Alya I think T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: what's your question? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: not sure what the question is T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: before i get bonus mobs and gold mobs and quest points .ets, T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I like the spelling correction, while completely ignoring the fact it is gibberish :-P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: with daily bless T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: I think he want the name of the diety that grants the blessing T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: but now i only get two quest add T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, your daily blessing is random T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: or not. :-P T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: you should always get double exp for x mobs unless you have noexp on T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No you shouldn't... T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is either x2 xp OR double qp quest for the base T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: yeah, 2x qp if you have noexp, 2x exp if you don't. T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Again no - noexp just forces it to be the qp quest, it can happen that way with exp on T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: yeah i only have 2X qp dont noexp T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: and you never get the dbl xp if you have noexp on, just double qp T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i am not noexp ,i only get X2 xp T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is ok Fei, it happens - completely random, unless you have been using a lot of alts T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: alts? T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: if you don't know, you haven't - disregard T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: for instance, I still haven't gotten my diamond chaos portal..... T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just see what you get tomorrow T3/r5/2011-11-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: nod T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does anyone know if your char.status.state changes from 8 to 3 if you're stunned during combat? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and/or 11 T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Friza Tech: is there a command to use mapper speedwalk (Mushclient) to the beginning of an area? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you can use runto and make your own aliases T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Friza Tech: hmm thanks Fiendish! T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: where can i downlod whole aardwolf.db T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Don't think you can, you have to map things yourself. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: I'm sorry, but help xterm does not tell or show you how to do xterm codes. Is it just followed by the color number? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: I'm sorry, but help xterm does not tell or show you how to do xterm codes. Is it just @ followed by the color number? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: It's @x123 replace 123 with number. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: use color 256 for the color list. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: what is the web page for help on installing the updates? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what updates? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think i found it: www.lmgtfy.com/?q=mushclient+update T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: why do i keep having to turn auto map off just today since installing the mushclient updates? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what update? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there a big difference between an i5 and an i3? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the i5 will overclock itself until it overheats and then stop overclocking until it cools down again T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the i3 therefore has a lower power profile and is better for laptops T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: other than that, not really T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh no shit, so im assuming the i5 and i7 both do that overclocking thing which is why people keep em super cool inside? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ack sorry on the sh T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's called...hold on while I look up the marketing jargon... T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "Turbo Boost" T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Fiendish: does it do that regardless of OS, or does only Windows push it that hard? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: and it should be essential to go with a z68 mobo right now? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: OS is irrelevant I think. this is a CPU internal feature T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/turbo-boost/turbo-boost-technology.html T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Hm, OK. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know what's wrong with this line?: SetVariable ("rariable_name", "%1") T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mine seems to behave nicely, though, on Debian. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "Intel. Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 automatically allows processor cores to run faster than the base operating frequency if it's operating below power, current, and temperature specification limits." T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: note that "if" T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it doesn't seem to load %1 into the varible_name for some reason T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Gorsk: looks ok to me if you actually meant "rariable" and not "variable" T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: cool im going with a coolermaster rifle type cooler for my i7 T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Which means "faster than you need it to be until you need it" ? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Trurien: yeah pretty much T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least in a tower where you can have adequate cooling it could be useful T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but so very little is actually limited by the CPU T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dunno, never noticed a problem with it in my laptop. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It must just be underperforming in the laptop then. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: more on the mobo right? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: most of what you do is limited by things like disk IO, RAM, and gpu performance T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your cpu spends a lot of time doing nothing T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Gorsk: just make sure you're actually getting your names right and not making typos T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: name doesn't really matter, but Note (variable_name) produces "nil", Note "variable_name" prodices "variable_name" and Note "%1" gives the data that i want to be in variable_name T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Note(variable_name) will not work in that example. you'd need something like Note(GetVariable("variable_name")) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because variable_name is not a local variable, it's a client variable T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see the video in this thread for a discussion of the difference: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10863 T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: just hoping for soem good black friday deals T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: I hear black friday? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: didn't realize it wouldn't grab existing globals T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: if i want to ignore n chars in a line, how would i express that in lua? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use string.sub T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that only removes things i know i want removed. if i wanted something to store all chars after 79, say to be able to output em afterwards, that wouldn't work very well T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it would T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you bother looking at the MUSHclient helpfile for string.sub? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what are you trying to achieve? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i'll look some more. these helpfiles aren't being very helpful with me T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it describes exactly your "output everything after char 79" scenario in the helpfile's blurb T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: k, i'll go look some morel. thanks T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Returns a substring of the string, starting at index 'start' and ending at index 'end'. Both may be negative to indicate counting from the right. The end point is optional and defaults to -1, which is the entire rest of the string T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: more* T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snewb looks for minnows. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd "start" at 79 (depending on whether starts at 0 or 1, didn't pay attn), and end at -1 T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you probably don't need to end at -1. string.sub should implicitly go to the end T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, that's what it says T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oonai Tech: hi T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo :-) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oonai Tech: I have mudlet 1.1.0 and mac os x 10.5.8 and the mag 1.1.0 scripts from aardwolf wiki, keeps crashing when i try to cast the spell rune of ix T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: printf("hello Oomai!"); T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oonai Tech: printf you too okkar T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oonai Tech: erro dokar T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Why would doing the output of 'shelp skittles' be making me send the map command? Latest version of AardMUSH, vanilla, with no other plugins. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Does it in channel history, too, for that social. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Line 2, in particular, on a channel does it. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: word opens? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's trying to see if a hidden exit is now visible on the map T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm not following T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, the word opens. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you were standing next to a closed door, you might just see one room on the map. yours T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you open the door, the map will now show rooms through that door, but you wouldn't see the changed map without sending the map command T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the automapper looks for text that seems like someone opened a door T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and sends map T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gotcha T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't have echocomands on, though, you shouldn't notice map command being sent T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It exits the pageprompt without strictpager on T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which is why I noticed it T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Was trying to read history of a channel T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd almost never use pager when using a MUD client T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client handles paging better than the MUD T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anybody use twitter? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Aard does. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can you configure twitter to send an e-mail when someone tweets? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I wan tto follow Kayla Tausche (oh and aard) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does the real aard do it? I have 2 aard-based twitter feeds T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i like aardstats alot though i had to unfollow T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's me ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: Just realized I had this channel turned off. :) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yea i know! was awesome, BUT the damn thing kept ripping through my slep time! T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: wake up and my battery deader than a doornail T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, I've never seen Aardstats. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're looking at someoned's fee, there's a button to have it send text message to phones, kojiro T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: twitter.com/aardstats T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: alright, so new to twitter, etc. Is there a way to have twitter: 1. e-mail me with the tweet everyone time someone i'm following tweets, or 2. SMS me with the tweet of someone I'm following? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doubles and reboots T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: it did work awesome though:) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tweets for them T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kojiro, yes T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i wish u could put in like times to allow the texts! T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: Having a service email you everytime someone tweets would sort of defeat the purpose of twitter.com I thnk T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kojiro, you don't even need to follow them for it T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to their twitter page (like twitter.com/aardstats... T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i was on att so i text follow aardstats to 40404 or something like that and i got it all T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on that page, at the top I see "text follow aardstats to your carrier's shortcode" T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Abelinc: @aardmud, maybe? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my other aard-related twitter is twitter.com/aardabelinc ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that's nothing anyone cares about, just my personal quests T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien grins mischievously at you. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I hate texts though, I just want to get their tweets in e-mail. Anyway to do that? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kojiro, twitter itself doesn't an email-on-tweet, but there are a few ways you can do it...3rd party sites that do it, twitter does do rss feeds, so you could use that in your email client or newsreader T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if Dexx made a tweet, I would follow him. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: .... T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if jex made a tweet it be called a porn site T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL tickles Juxtaposed Jexebelle. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: any trustworthy third party sites? I live out of a giant Outlook inbox T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: outlook can follow the rss feed without needing 3rd party T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Inbox (729533) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ifttt.com is worth a look, for a 3rd party site that does what you want T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: last time someone sen tme a link it was to japanese tentable porn. Is this a trap? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lets you set up all sorts of rules based on social media stuff T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heheh, you like to deny it, but you know that I always speak the truth, no traps :-) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: this site looks sweet, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: 9-1-1 dispatch, what's your emergency? http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/man-calls-police-five-times-over-broken-iphone-165909598.html T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is "japanese tentable porn T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: as long as it doesn't involve puke, all porn is tentable. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Heh T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, was watching the smoking gun's worlds dummest the other day...lady called 911 cuz she was locked inside her car :P T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i think he was talking about tentacle.... T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: not that i know.. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You go to Limunious, "SUUUUUUUURE...." T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: those asians are crazy with that anime porn stuff T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tentable or tentacle... typo or genius? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Isn't the mapper suppose to pathfind to the nearest portal-able room, if you are in a room flagged noportal? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: some days T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: huh T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: However, you need to make certain you have all the norecalls/noportals mapped for it to work. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: if you have recall command it runs to first recall room T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: hmm, how do you make it choose to recall instead of a portal? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Is there a command line way in Mush to enable/disable timers? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean like doafter? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: not unless yuo make alias T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know there is a doafter thing used in scripts from reading other plugins. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: I mean like in z/cmud by typing #timer. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: make an alias T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=1147 for starters T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: how to do this right? Send ("test " + ? & ? GetVariable ("Target1")) T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cryn Tech: how can i stop the mini map from showing up on the main screen when i walk into a new room? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Anyone know of a way to have Bast's spellup plugin do a scan to see what spells you have rather then add them all manually? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: you can do bsp sadd all T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: But that will add ones I don't want, like all the detect spells and other stuff I don't really need. I was hoping for one that checked practice levels. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: the only thing I can think of is doing bsp sadd all, then bsp export to get the list, the prune it manually and re-add it T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: then* T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Oh, nevermind. That's exactly what that command does. I'm not sure why I thought otherwise. Thanks! :P T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What would one do with Britney Spears? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: burn her T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: nothing, now T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: how do i get MMVI to launch in a window without changing to 16bit colors? :O T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Using the aardmush client, I now find the main window and smallmap window all grey text without color - but displaying the "at"color codes. I tried the "color" command but to no avail. It appears as though the "at"color codes aren't being interpreted... how does one re-enable them? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What about the Comm log? Is there any color? You didn't toggle rawcolors by accident did you? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: comm log does infact have color as normal T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try typing rawcolors T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: PHEW... much better! thank you kindly. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Hmm... I seem to have some issues with BSP not detecting when I practice my spells. I have to close down mushclient and restart it in order to add new spells to my list. Any ideas? I have the tags turned on... T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both spellups and skillgains? T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Yep. T3/r5/2011-11-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: And I know it worked fine before I remorted yesterday... I've tried clearing the entire list and readding. Also adding manually. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ok, grabbed newest version of bast and mushclient, why isn't anything showing up in main window :p just seeing chat here T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: reload the bast area db plugin T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he knows about the bug already, btw T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: cool, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so i'm making an array with the room ids of the first rooms of areas. however, i can't see the array anywhere. is it gonna vanish when i log off? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: in mush T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know about arrays in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're not sure, you can always serialize it into a MUSHclient variable. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is it in a plugin, or just a script file? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: script T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i just can't see where it's being saved and don't want it to vanish when i close mush T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the manipulations are going fine and i can load data and retrieve it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: just can't -see- it anywhere T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Honestly don't know if it's just in a script. If it's in a plugin, it'll save as long as you have the plugin set to save its state. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Er, actually, that's not accurate, either T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think it'll save, no T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a way to save it? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: seems pretty useless to have non-saveable arrays T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Turn it into (serialize) a MUSHclient variable T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there's a help file for that, right? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hrm...not sure T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: already reading it :) T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe a serialize file is included with MUSH now. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: lemme see if my array dies with mush closure before i start making plugins for it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: yup, it dies T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: why isn't BSP casting enhanced strength D: T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just need one line that says: require "serialize" at the top, and then do SetVariable("foo", "foo = "..serialize(foo)) whenever you want to save it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think...been a while since I've used it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But that should be pretty close T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: but seriously, what am i doing wrong with bsp so it's not keeping enhanced strength refreshed T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you forgetskill it? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Have you sacrificed the requisite number of goats and spilled their blood over your keyboard while chanting? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Gorsk: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=4960 Skip everything except the last two posts T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: in 'bsp slist', what letters show next to 'enhanced strength'? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The two lines in bold are the ones that load it and save it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: it's "np" T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no, i did not forgetskill it :p T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that means 'not practiced' T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ah, but ti's at 86% T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: err 85, but still T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, been there. try this: 'bsp senable "enhanced strength"' T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: then, bsp slist again, and see what it says. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: still np T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you log off and log back in, it should try to refresh the info for each spell. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Think there's probably some command that will do it, too T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: after bsp refresh it still shows as NP, gonna relog now T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: nah, still np T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I've got the same thing, and some 'NL's for "not learned", even though I can cast them. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: for sure, i mean it's not the end of the world to type spellup, but i'd rather just be able to fix this :P T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'd thought senable "forced" it, but I guess not. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: it's not T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Isn't Bast's the one where you can just do "spellup + enhanced damage"? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: huh? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Bast's (in theory) will autocast spells as they fall T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Perhaps I'm thinking of a different one, then T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: and now it's keeping me sneaking and hiding but neglecting to enhance my strength T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: and if i reset it and try to add enhanced strength it still shows as being not practice T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: at least you can sneak. I can't, yet. :) T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you're a wolfen thief, yo :P T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yes, well....what I meant is, the plugin won't keep sneak set. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ah T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: well if we team up, you'll be strong and ill be sneaky :P T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: sounds like a plan. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: when you relogged in, did you close out mush entirely, or just reconnect? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: just reconnected, i'll try relaunching now T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: oh hey T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: guess that's what it needed T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: thanks :/ T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: likely related to OnPluginInstall or something, then. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Well, either well, it's working, so thank you :D T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: sure thing. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Is there any way to make it so i don't use a portal in a given room via the mapper? for example, aard hotel T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i type "mapper thisroom" and it shows that it is a noporal room, but when i try to go to a room from here it tries to portal there. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: so how do i use "mapper bouncerecall" to make it so i always go down before trying a portal from the hotel, for example T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or am i reading mapepr help wrong? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: any ideas? :p T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You are. bouncerecall is for a command that will a.) work from anywhere and b.) will work in a noportal room. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: In theory, if the mapper know the current room to be noportal, it should find a path to the closest portal-able or recall-able room and go from there. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: right, but in practice, is there any way to make sure i move from hotel aardwolf before trying to portal? i am less concerned when this occurs in other areas, and i don't really want it to always just move down first when it is a noportal room T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You do? You'd really want it to do that in, say, the planes? :x T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no, that's what i don't want :p T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: sorry, iw as unclear T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Is there a way to set the mapper to move from the hotel aardwolf before portaling? :p T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not that I'm aware of. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i do not particularly want those features in other areas, just to avoid aggros and mazes, etc T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: k T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Hmmm. It bounces off of home and uses portals correctly for me from the Aardhotel... T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: thank you, now it'll recall before portaling, just was hoping to avoid the mvs hit :P T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: HAHA, thought BSP was being stpuid again, then realized wolfen get detect invis :/ T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: newegg has a nice deal today 16gb corsair vengeance 16gb ram ddr3 1600 for 79 bucks, but damn thats alot of ram T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i have no idea what that actually is. just a ram stick? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a kit T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: 4 ram stick, theyre nice heat dispersing and stuff T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh. ok, not much clearer. guess I'm not that much of a geek. :p T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: low clock tho. what are the timings? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: not sure i didnt go too deep T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: (thats what she said) T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh, you cant do that to your own comments... :p T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: clock and timings are more important than the size T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, his comment you can say that to. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i thought 1600 were pretty good now adays T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's good, but you were building a high-end pc iirc T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd get at least 1866 T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh for mine im going 2133 gskills 8gb T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good idea T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still on ddr2 myself tho T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1066MHz with 5-5-5-15 T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ahh:) T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yea gonna be spending some money this year I am! T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: going with a full case too figure it will be easier to work on since im a N00blet T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, that's a good idea T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'll to give you tip that'll save you some time - install gpu last T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yea thats my plan! im going to follow the newegg video building tutorials on youtube, ive watched em a few times so i think i might be a ok T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i hope you mobo has an adapter for the case cable pins T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: im sure it will it seems like a good mobo T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a pita to figure them out otherwise since most manufacturers make up their own markings T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, you can't count on it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: should i buy those seperate? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i was just installing a new high-end gigabyte mobo into antec 600. took a while to get the small pins right T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they don't sell them separate T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: since the pin placement isn't standard T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: y'know, the power button, speaker, reset, hdd etc cables for buttons and leds T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh man, well im hoping:) im doing a asus v pro z68 mobo with a real nice full case, and hoping i can drop in the collermaster v8 rifle cooler with a 580gtx T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: figure the v8 will fit since im getting a full case too T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i recommend you install these first and double check evenything. it's a pita to get to them in most cases after you added other components T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gothorionix Tech: I require assistance. Anyone willing to help? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: No we must know first what you need help with. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Then we can decide. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gothorionix Tech: Very well. I'm curious if there is a possible way to clear my screen. I am using the Mobile client. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gothorionix Tech: I was directed towards this channel to solve this issue of mine. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: No idea. :( Maybe you can check your MUD client's documentation. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can try the cls command, but that only works if your client supports it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gothorionix Tech: Hm, thank you. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oveclocking my e8400 on asus p5k, so far so good T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: fsb 400MHz, cpu 3.6GHz, ram 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: overclocking my ZX81 -- so far so good T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: core temps stay around 50C under load, ihs 40C T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lapped the ihs and arctic freezer 7 pro last week, also used liquid gallium alloy as thermal compound T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: details please, swalec T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or were you just stating that you have a new mobo? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, i see what you did there T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looked like the new intel chipset at first glance T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone ever buy a laptop from xoticpc? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Are Sony Vaio netbooks any good? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Some of the best, yes T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: You pay extra for it though, kinda like macs but not as much T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've always foudn them heavily overpriced T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for the money, buy a macbook T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm not interested in Apple products T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: good :D T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What makes the Vaios stand out above the other brands, e.g. HP, Dell T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they are good for *nix and win systems too T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: macbook is even more overpriced imo T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: aesthetics, spec, build quality T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: build quality T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: build IBM or Sony T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what stands out about sony is how they lock in proprietary formats and restrictions.. for laptops it might be less so T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: never buy a Sony laptop, they break T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: sony and IBM laptops break the least, trust me i had to fix laptops for years T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have been boycotting sony since the rootkit fiasco. and i've never regretted it since.. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: in that case go ibm, ugly as sin but built like a rock T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Heh yeah, they are very good quality T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: _all_ sony laptops i've had at work have broken within 2 years. None of the ibm of HP have. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you mean lenovo lappys? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: ya T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, so I likely wouldn't go wrong with an IBM netbook? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: from my experiance fixing them it goes dell, hp, acer, sony, mac air, asus, mac pro, ibm T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got no beef with them... and they go on special all the time T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm still going to get my Sager laptop, but I'd probably get a netbook anyway, and I can get it sooner due to cheaper price T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, pay at least 2000$ for your laptop if you want something that lasts longer than a year T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: In what order, Falconfury? Least durable to most durable? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, going to be paying twice that T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: least to most yes. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: HP do appear to have issues with disks. the amount of HP disks i've had fail *mutter* T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe I can get one with an SSD T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: it always feels funny using a gaming rig that could hack the pentagon to play a MUD :) T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: i would go hybrid ssd, it gives you the speed of ssd with more longjevity T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: BTW, HP doesn't make disks, thy use 3rd party disks. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: they still fail tho. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Are netbooks configurable/customizeable to the same extent as desktop replacements? I assume not, since I can't find much on building my own. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: building your own laptop would be quite an adventure :P T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: asus has the parts to let you do it if your up for an adventure, not sure you end up saving that much money in the long run though T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/desktops/apple1_m.jpg T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: And sadly enough, if that were real, they'd sell millions. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If your disks are failing a lot, you are using the wrong type of disks. Try paying more for them, it makes a difference. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, yeah, I think I'm going to look for a 10" or 11" netbook T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I know Sony makes them in that size, still looking at the IBM's T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: You'll pay too much for either of those. HP and Acer make really good Netbooks. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's sad, they have 10 times as much HDD space as my old laptop, and 4 to 8 times as much RAM T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: and 20 times as much bloatware to fill it T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: As long as they're durable and can survive being carted around drilling rig sites T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I can't imagine anything short of toughbook would be suitable for that duty. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yeah, that's what toughbooks were made for T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, not carted to the rig floor itself, but I do have to move from site to site, there is a lot of travel and packing and unpacking T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: And bloatware isn't really an issue. If you're buying any sort of off the shelf computer and not blowing it away and reinstalling the OS you're going to have issues. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like this Acer that I'm on right now T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is a 15" laptop though, but very light T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: If it's only staying in an office of some sort you should be fine with anything, then. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Kind of an office, I guess.... mud logging camper, very dirty T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And as I said, will be carted around a lot T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I have a 13in HP notebook with quite a bit more horsepower then a netbook, that's as small a screen as I can stomach for everyday. It was quite a bit more expensive though. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thanks for all the advice T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Next time I go to walmart I will look at some of the computers there to see what size would be best T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Then will order something online T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: para T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: doh! T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: newegg.com has good deals T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: para? Nonsense, ortho. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Newegg.com has good deals and a great product review system :D T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Was busy hammering a parakeet to death.. an evil parakeet. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Cool, will check them out T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i only buy tech gear from newegg T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What processor is better? The AMD's, or the Intel Atom? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looking for a javascript calendar that allows you to select by day, week, month or year...any suggestions? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: strange issue, standing T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: Strange issue, standing on ground floor of The Lone Tree, click on Among the Philosophes in the AUTOMATIC MAPPER and run command shows "run du10s", which just puts me on the next floor up, but clicking on another square, such as Bank of Ivar, walks me there correctly. Anyone have any thoughts on the issue? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: AutoMapper issue, standing on ground floor of The Lone Tree, click on Among the Philosophes in the AUTOMATIC MAPPER and run command shows "run du10s", which just puts me on the next floor up, but clicking on another square, such as Bank of Ivar, walks me there correctly. Anyone have any thoughts on the issue? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Check cexits. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looking for a javascript calendar that allows selection by date, week, month and year...any suggestions? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: google is your friend T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: AutoMapper issue, standing on ground floor of The Lone Tree, click on Among the Philosophes in the AUTOMATIC MAPPER and run command shows "run du10s", which just puts me on the next floor up, but clicking on another square, such as Bank of Ivar, walks me there correctly. Anyone have any thoughts on the issue? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: hmmm... i type mapper goto 6850 and it takes me to room 3494... why would it do this? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it took you to the directions it has for room 6850... T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try mapper resume T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it keeps taking me back here... T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: AutoMapper issue, standing on ground floor of The Lone Tree, click on Among the Philosophes in the AUTOMATIC MAPPER and run command shows "run du10s", which just puts me on the next floor up, but clicking on another square, such as Bank of Ivar, walks me there correctly. Anyone have any thoughts on the issue? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: something likely moved since you explored T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oh, i see the problem T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: were you getting stopped somewhere along the way, wrong portal defined, etc? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i used keywords instead of id num for portal and it grabbed the wrong one T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if using keywords, make sure they're unique T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i figured it'd be easier if i get my hands on lower level ones T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use 2 different bags for portals, one for the bulk of them, one for the overlapping name ones T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i might start doing that T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: i like using the id number for my portal in my alias.. no mess up then. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's good for portals that are likely to always be the same one T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there, all fixed :) T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't use it for things like casino portal, horror portal, etc, which I won't keep from mort to mort T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: AutoMapper issue, standing on ground floor of The Lone Tree, click on Among the Philosophes in the AUTOMATIC MAPPER and run command shows "run du10s", which just puts me on the next floor up, but clicking on another square, such as Bank of Ivar, walks me there correctly. Anyone have any thoughts on the issue? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: you weren't messing around with custom exits were you? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: not that I'm aware of T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: do "mapper cexits here" T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: pretty much any square in the grand plaza area T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: Found 0 customs exits T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: Found 0 custom exits T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i had problems with labyrinth at one point. don't know why. i deleted the area and re-explored and everything's fine, now T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: is that a way to reload The Grand City of Aylor map? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: you could purge it BUT you will have to reexplore the city. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: though it is a fairly safe place. not too many aggros in aylor T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If I add a Trigger using addxml trigger - what happens to that trigger when I reload the plugin that added it? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: IN mushclient. T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: after a little testing, clicking on squares north of Grandmarket Blvd inputs strange run commands. Clicking on temple of ivar inputs "run dus", grand city of aylor "run du2s" but anything south of grandmarket blvd is fine, and this is only when standing of the The Lone Tree square T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: do you have any portals set? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, sounds like you have a 'run du' portal set to 2n of recall T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: how do you set portals? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I need to research portals on mapper.. i just use the stock runto command for now T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I tried messing with custom exits and it horked everything T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: type mapper portals to check for now T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: cexits are easy to use T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: mapper portals does not show any portals listed T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: how about 'mapper cexits' T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: Found 0 custom exits T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: wells thanks for the help. not a big issue just strange. was working couple of days ago T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: do you have any alias' or triggers set to read "run" or have run in them? T3/r5/2011-11-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Icycue Tech: no, don't have any alias' or triggers set nor do i know how to set them T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: anymore here got a kindle fire? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: nah, they are all off reading SF T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: hi guys, how do I set a static IP for my different machines on a wireless network T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone? :p T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You mean a static local LAN IP? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: something like that T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: i.e. 192.168.0.101/102/103? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: because everytime I reboot my router, I get IP clashes btw my machines T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: and it's annoying cos then 1 machine wont be able to connect to internet or something T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: no idea :P T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: http://www.zultrax.com/forward-port/static-local-ip.htm T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you're wanting a static local ip and not a static public IP (in which case, you'd have to contact your ISP, probably) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: uhhhh whats the diff :p T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: public IP is what everyone else (e.g. Aardwolf) sees. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: All computers connected to your router are going to have the same one of these T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, he wants static ips for devices on his network T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yeh T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: local IP is what your router assigns to each computer on it, pretty much T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I'm on an adsl2+ connection T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then yeah, that link should do it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: are you using tomato/dd-wrt? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if not, you need to find dhcp settings on your own T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anyone have the spelltag for when a recovery expires? Don't see it in any helpfiles. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: {recoff}15 T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, heh, guess it is in the helpfile, just the spellup script I'm using gags the line T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei stares at the sky. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masackru Tech: greetings. I have a problem with the way the text it is displayed. at the begning and end of most of lines I have g, w, y, any idea why? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: are there any letters besides b,r,g,y,c,m, and w? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes, e.g. z T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei peers intently at Ranrr. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's happening to you, too? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone gots a gaming laptop? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gaming laptop is oxymoron T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: playing on a netbook.. does that count? ;) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: There's an Alienware NETBOOK that has better specs than my desktop. It's ridiculous. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: heh sager makes a nice one too right? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Not sure. My coworker is in love with the Alienware one, that's the only reason I know about it. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: in aard mushclient, other than haovering over each box in the mapper, is there a way to search for a room name? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: mapper find, mapper area T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: mapper area foo T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so... where are these buttons in aard mushclient? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: buttons? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: or how doo i get there? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: need more info...get where? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i have aard mushclient. i've explored an area 100%. I have a room name that I'd like to get to, but I forget where it is in the area. Is there a way to search the mapper for where in the map this room name? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: If I hover over the little box/room, it will say the room name, but I dont' want to to hover over 100 boxes T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: you've been answered before, about mapper commands. those are not buttons, those are commands T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: if your not in the rooms area, use mapper find .. if you are in the area use mapper area .. then click the links T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: READ mapper help.. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh, this is a command in the prompt T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: it's pretty self explainatory. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: well this will take minutes off each campaign T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: lol this is too funny for campaigns T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i guess i was old school T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: when i click the link from mapper find, is there a way for it to try and open doors instead of blocking me at each one? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: mapper help -> mapper cexit T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: check about mapper cexit T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: you can manually add doors as cexits, it will work then T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: any web devs on? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which language? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: real basic.. css T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: go for it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: been looking at this single page for a while now.. just need some help with IE7+8 z-indexing T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i dont know why i can't get it to work correctly! www.3balls.com T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh boy... that's not real basic .. lol T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: haha a lil bit T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: theres a hover drop over 'golf clubs' tab, and shows behind the new display boxes i added. but in IE it shows up behind then.. pain in the balls T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pain in the 3 balls? }:> T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh i see that T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: how do the new display boxes work? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: just a UL that onhover changes the div content T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: inspecting that now... hrm.. what have you tried? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: mainly build with CSS and barely any js T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: ive only tried adjusting all of the zindex numbers T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i just remembered that zindex only works with absolutely positioned items T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i hate IE with a passion T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: that sounds right T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: z-index works with relatively positioned items as well. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: me too.. i have to develop in it all day.. i long for a decent element inspector T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: it is relative at the moment, but a no go hmm T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Is the "megaclubs" the one you say is positioned relative? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: it was.. i just got rid of it and changed #vtab to relative in IE only T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: this code is cleaned up compared to what it was when i started workin here.. ugh T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i want to rebuild the whole thing T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Nice!! It works properly in my IE7 now. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: but you cant click on anything lol T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: zindex -1 T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: works for me too T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: I can. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: gonna try 1 T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: grr nope T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can click on golf clumbs menu links T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Oh.. I see.. further down. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: in the hover boxes T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: cant click on things when its -1 T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: FYI the "by hand" item in narrow your search overlaps the menu too T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: yea theres a lot of overlapping lol T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: as long as it works in IE its fine.. they said i dont have to make it match the updated browsers T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: style wise T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: ahhhhhhhhh T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: got it! T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: what a doosh T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: What was it? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i was playing with zindex for hover + dropdowns.... i just changed the zindex of the header itself to 5000 to put it above all T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: that was easier than i thought.. just lookin in the wrong place i guess T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: helps to have other people throw ideas around.. then sometimes it clicks T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's the primary reason i was talking with you about it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: hehe T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: thanks guys T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oh... that's soooo not cool. my comp crashed last night and now when i try to open aard with aarmush, it tells me: unexpected file format T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: anyone know a quick and easy way to fix this? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: did you back up your files? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: not recently T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: well the easiest thing to do would be to revert to the old files T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: do you know which file is corrupted? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the .mcl T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: see if you can find a backup version, and the replace it with the one that isn't working T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: were you editing it? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: define editing T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evidently Visible Tech: anyways, good luck T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: had it open in a text editor T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Evidently Visible waves happily. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that IS unfortunate.. i wonder if fiendish should backup the .mcl file as well as teh db file? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so i gotta start from scratch? :( T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mcl is text file, so you can safely open it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can probably rescue your triggers and alaises T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: open it ina text edior T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, it is world setting file, so you at worst will lose triggers and aliases T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: k T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so try open it in text editor, if it is readable then you can try to fix it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if not readable, then rename and just create new session T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's readable T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i opened it on notepad T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: everything looks fine... T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check tags T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you're better off justct wow T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: copy file and change its extension to xml T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then open in internet explorer - if it opens correctly, then you have to compare this file to other good file and find differences T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: k, i'm on it. thanks T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you cannot find any differences, then get original aardwolf.mcf and replace bad one (first make copy of bad one of course) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean significant differences, but probably file lacks closing tag or some part of it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it opens T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway if you don't have plugins part at the end of file, you need to copy-paste them from original file T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if IE opens file, go to end of page and check whether there is closing tag T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it is, then you need to analyze each tag to find culprit T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if not, then you lack some part of file T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or just copy across the , etc blocks one at a time T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to a new .mcl file T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what about my map db? will that be saved? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is safe, you need only plugins part T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make a copy of your aardwolf.db file now though.. jsut to be safe T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mcl has no references to map db, only to plugins T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ya, gonna have to take some time and make sure i have copies of everything T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also try upgrade procedure - get new version of client, install in new location and copy map db to new dir T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if your version is old it is quite good opportunity to upgrade it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and then install my plugins :P T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, you need to install Winklewinkle plugins, they are excellent for campaigns and quests T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: along with the map they made campaigns fun again :D T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: fiendish did such a good job with mapper T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i didn't have access to them when i got aardmush a week a go, so i wrote some of my own T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yeah, I was always on the fence regaring mush vs cmud, but now I'm mush all the way T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: only thing i couldn't do was to sort room name campaigns by area T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, just follow upgrade guide from aard web page and everything should be ok T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Winkle's have support for room names campaigns - limiting by level, excellent feature :) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now it is even easier to do cp with room names than with area names T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there are a few outlier mobs that mess it up unfortunately... but the word from above is "no changes to level ranges" T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that's one of the things i likes about having done it myself. i could modify things as they came up T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: liked* T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: well, i'm off. thanks for the help T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: anybody know why my MUSHclient game screen is a shade of grey now, unless i type something then its back to regular black? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: did you change teh black colour in the colour picker? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: well, i figured out what's wrong :( T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: solar flares? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: half the file is missing T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: nope, have not changed anything, clicked my other monitor window and then back and it was like this T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: copy and paste what you can into a new .mcl file then T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it starts out more or less the same. then at one point halfway through the aliases, it just stops T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Gorsk - are you saying it's STILL truncating your mcl files? or are you talking about the original file? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ok, there's the backup and the current one. the backup is fine but incomplete. the current is there for the first half and then everything is gone T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so i'm gonna take the end of the backup and paste it into the current and see if that'll do it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: well, i'm off again *waves* T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I wonder if there is some sort of indexing/backup service that it locking the file? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: wow these hard drives are wicked expensive now T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: tripled in price at my local small shop T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: flooding in thailand T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: and they were the guys with the best deals T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: yeah, crazy how concentrated hd manufacturing is there T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: floodproof hardrive factories are underwater T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: flooding in thailand T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: whoops T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any tech are ssd's produced there as well, havent noticed a huge jump in those T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The biggest hit on HD manufacturing was the motors. SSD's don't use many of those... T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: They mostly only use one less than an equivalent hard drive. Not a huge difference, in absolute terms... T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: well, i saved my db, my triggers and my aliases. just gotta replace my macros and i'm back :) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: excellent news T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i play in dropbox to keep everythign safe T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ok, i'm gonna backup and reboot just to make sure everything's ok T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: can anybody help me with aliases please? I'm using aard client. It looks quite simple on Nick Gammon's page (http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/aliases.htm) but I'm probably missing something simple. Is there some box I need to check, maybe? At the moment I've literally just created a new alias, called it 'crest' and used 'quest request T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you type crest? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: sorry, my message got cut off. Nothing happens when I type crest T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: What do you want it to do? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I've literally just created a new alias, called it 'crest' and used 'quest request T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShenDragon Tech: It might be as simple as having to check "enable aliases" on the first screen that shows when you go to your aliases window T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: sorry, my message keeps getting cut off T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ";tech this ; that" T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: before tech, put a semicolon T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when a line starts with semicolon, it'll stop hitting enter when it sees a semicolon T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I have got aliases enabled.the send message is 'quest request T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin goes, "Heh." T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I can't seem to put a semicolon in this message T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ferne, look back a few techs...I explained how to put semicolons into it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ShenDragon Tech: remove the apostrophe... T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: okay, let's see if this works. ' quest request; cast 82' is the send message T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you shouldn't use semicolons in your alias T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah, use new lines T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the body of your alias, type "quest request", hit enter, type "c 82" T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the body field is huge so you just hit enter, putting different commands onto different lines T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ah okay, I was just going by Nick's example. Okay, let me try again and stop T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ooops T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to use a semicolon for separate commands, then you must change the Send To dropdown from world to execute T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but there's no good reason to most of the time, and it makes more work for MUSHclient T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even with the semicolon, you should've gotten this output from the MUD: Syntax : Quest (then 3 lines of commands) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: okay, it seems to be working now. Thanks very much for your help, Abe. I will stick without semicolons and just use enter to separate things. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I didn't get that message. Let me just check that again. it's possible it is case sensitive as well which might have created problems. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: with it like this quest request; cast 82 and the world output, I get what you wrote. I didn't realise aliases were case-sensitive. I think that's what the problem was. Nothing else seems to be case-sensitive with aardclient when I'm entering other commands. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a checkbox in the alias definition window "ignore case"...it starts UNchecked, so case matters unless you check it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entering commands into aardclient isn't MUSHclient commands, they're MUD commands or they're commands that people wrote into their scripts T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I see. that's absolutely brilliant, Abe. I've got it working with any case now. Thanks again for all your help :) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: one more question.. how do I trigger a macro (F1) within an alias? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: or should I just do a big copy and paste T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I don't think you can. What your accelerator keys SHOULD do is call an alias or script that does the real work. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Then you can call the same thing elsewhere if desired. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so have your F1 do MyF1Alias, and any other alias can also call MyF1Alias...that is a case where you do want to change the Send To drop-down from World to Execute T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: okay, that's an interesting way of looking at it. I will swap things around then. Thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: execute means "treat this as if I typed it", send to world means don't bother with semicolons, aliases, etc T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although both send to world and execute can do variable substitution T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: okay, this is great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to explain this. I'm new to MUDs and clients. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and to his credit Abe doens't even use mush T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I'm impressed! :) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grin, I try to keep familiar with basic usage of most clients...at least I have a copy of MUSH, unlike z/cmud ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first thing I do when I download a newer aardmush, change its config to not connect to Aard ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin goes, "Heh." T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: hmmm... idr what it's called, but the part where i type the text. i adjust it to be bigger and when i start typing it goes back to being small. is there a way to fix this? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should auto-adjust as you type...type more than 1 line and it should expand T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: but i want it to be 2 lines high all the time T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i like how it looks T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: with more space underneath, it's less cramped T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is there a box somewhere that i can check or something to not have it auto-adjust back to 1 line? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wouldn't hurt you to go looking for it. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess you have to get used to it. you can try playing with caps lock, everything is instantly more radical T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: looking for what? i don't even know what this is called T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: input something? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's called a command line. Look for anything with those words or similar in it. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah, command line. thanks T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, this is VERY useful to have: http://xkcd.com/627/ T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: solves like 80% of the problems if used correctly T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: also if used incorrectly T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try executing this: SetOption ("auto_resize_command_window", 0) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that worked, thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i bet abe used the flowchart T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, the website where teh aardmush is (http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage) has this info and tons more info on making MUSH look/behave how you want :-) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click "wiki", then expand "I'm not used to MUSHclient. How do I..." T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it did behave how i wanted. just that my mcl file became corrupted, so i'm just trying to put things back to the way they were T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: In the "FAQ/Configuration" page, there's an entry "I don't like that the input bar automatically resizes. How do I change that" T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: idr what the extension is in zmud. it's the world file T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his FAQ entry gets more detailed, giving you the ability to set it to "never go above xx lines" and "never go below xx lines" T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in zmud, the world file is an ADO database record in a file called chardb.mdb. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: oops. mis T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's also the .lay file, which controls the placement of windows, and .mud files which contain triggers, etc for a specific window. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: You know that $10.5 million that a Nigerian Prince is trying to send to me? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: Well, today I got a email from the FBI stating that they froze the $10.5 million transfer, and that all I have to do is contact them and reassure them that it's not drug or terrorist related, and they'll let me have the $10.5 million. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Nigerian FBI (?) T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you need to confirm your bank details in the email? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: Nope, from Robert S. Mueller, III, FBI Director T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, FBI doesn't do that. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: Oh, and if I don't contact them, they'll charge me with trying to illegally traffic money into the country. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You criminal! T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin goes, "Heh." T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you're really worried about that, call them up on the phone. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: I'm not worried in the least bit :P T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: HA HA, yeah call your local field office to ask them about it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: Ooh, and lookie, they also CCed everyone from the International Monetary Fund to the World Central Bank. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: If a printer/scanner isn't scanning after installing drivers, is it safe to say that it's the scanner itself that's broken? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it locked? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's safe to say that printers/scanners suck T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Not getting an error or anything.. just says "Scanning file" then it's done. Light never comes on or anything T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they rarely work properly :P T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Solarpower Inicus frowns. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i never had any problems with em T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some had a locking switch underneath T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: failing that, yes, probably buggered T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I'll go see if it has a switch, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Didn't find one, thanks anyways =P T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Inicus what scanner/printer? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Lexmark x7170 T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I've already uninstalled/reinstalled the driver T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes you said that. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lexmark are notoriously shoddy T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Yeah, just letting you know in case you missed it =P T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I'm just going to take a picture of it and upload it to my computer... if I can just find my camera T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does it print? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Yeah it's always printed fine T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does it copy? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Solarpower Inicus shrugs helplessly. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I've only ever used it to print T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try doing a photocopy with it T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that'll tell you if the scanner works or not T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Alright, I'll try that T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Copying is working, but the copy feed is different than the little scan platform T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Hah, nevermind. I got it to work. I was just using the scan button on the printer itself. Going into the control panel and scanning from there works. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably just grotty software then T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, lexmarks use very cheap micro switches. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: can mush hold client variable as a table ? If i initialize it as {} from interface - will it work ? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In mushclient is there any way to turn off keep evualating on a trigger from within the trigger? So basically if a condition is met it would not keep evualating? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: in aardmush, does anyone know how to change the color of the window border for the gmcp mapper window? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ask friendish or Turie T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sindain: That is something you need to speak with Fiendish about. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: ok, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryzalith Tech: Is there a way to get rid of plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sure, uninstall Mush and go with CMud. :P T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: File->Plugins, select the plugin, Remove. T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Or press ctrl+shift+P and remove them manually T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: file->plugins T3/r5/2011-11-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or slap Dokkar and tell him to do it for you. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone feel like playing find the syntax error? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: its the extra bracket T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: local query = "INSERT INTO ranking (type, rank, player, value, startdate, enddate) VALUES ('" .. zs.var.Type .. "', " .. zs.var.CurrentRank .. ", '" .. zs.param(1) .. "', " .. zs.param(2) .. ", '" .. zs.var.StartDate .. "', '" .. zs.var.EndDate .. "')" T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i must be blind, can't find the mistake anywhere... it's a lua error btw, not sql T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: err only thing i noticed was that zs.var.currentrank and zs.param(2) only have "" and not '""' like the others T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: but im no expert on lua T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, they're numeric T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but the problem's with the lua, not the sql T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm getting an error on that line, not the one that runs the query T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaedron Tech: Check the line before maybe? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's the only line in the function T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i've already narrowed it down :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaedron Tech: Heh, answers that... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the error message? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: useless :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient always gives me useful error messages. I would expect the same of any other client. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's cmud, stop expecting it :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish chuckles politely. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, it's not giving the error anymore anyway, strange... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: by observing the line of code you collapsed the bug's wave function into nonexistence T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i'm getting an error when i try to execute it now anyway :/ T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what error T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Error parsing command: #call binsert("test", 123). Access violation at address 0064A0DC in module 'cMUDPro.exe'. Read of address 0000002E T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Error parsing command: #call @dbinsert("test", 123). Access violation at address 0064A0DC in module 'cMUDPro.exe'. Read of address 0000002E T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I lol'd. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: all right, i have all ranking notes being written to a database now :) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: Fiendish, where do i change the window border color for the gmcp mapper window? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which color? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: the grey window border T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: around the whole window? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: inside the plugin T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: i've looked in the aard_gmcp_mapper.mxl but i can't find it. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah, sorry T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's in aardmapper.lua T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one day I'll merge the two files, because there's no great reason to have them split T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's in the lua folder T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably function draw_edge() T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: ok, thanks man.. it's the last window border i needed to change. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: the gray is throwing off my maroon theme. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: HEY TECH CHANNEL! I have a question T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Which you will almost certainly be able to answer with speculation. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: Google Music...should I upload my pirated music? Or would I get in trouble? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did you try turning it off and on again? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}O.G. Accora Tech: (tech -h, still would like an answer) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Is there a script or snippet that can detect an attempted move that has been disrupted by a closed door and automatically attempt to open it? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't know of any T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i just use a trigger T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I tried to use cexits to do that but it broke my gotos T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: strange really, cause it's easy to write T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can't you just use a simple trigger? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why don't you just make sure you map has all the doors on it? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: and then, i just type mapper resume T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: the text from the mud isn't exactly easy when coupled with a runto T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: runto's include doors T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so when you get stopped by a door, cexit it and resume the run T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: oh sorr, mapper goto statements in mush T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Does not include doors whatsoever T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: one up for zmud then, i guess T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you have to include them manually T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Add them as cexits. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Tried cexiting them, ended up breaking gotos in general for the area T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nice to see mush not all-conquering T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Then you weren't doing it right. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: breaking how? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nice to have it that way.. less clicky clicky, more interaction :) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You can't add it just as open west - you have to open west;w T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you have to include the step T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: mapper cexit open e(semicolon)e T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: makes following directions fail T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah. You used one semicolon? Use two. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Like mapper cexit open west;;w T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Oh, glad thats documented :P Thanks, I'll try that :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: well, not necessarily a semicolon. you use your line break character for cexits T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: whereas for portals, it is a semicolon irrespective or your line break char T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It is documented: > To stack commands use ;; as separator to get around the line break parser. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Straight from mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it assumes that you use a semicolon as your line break T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i don't T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, if you know how to change it, you probably know how to get around it :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Ah, well whomever was helping me earlier did not mention having to escape semicolons during cexit creation T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i use a tilde and it's double tilde for me. though it's still single semicolon for portals T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Thought mushclient took care of that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: passdoor might be the easier option -- but yeah, would be good if someone coded that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Yes Swalec, however under level 40/without spells, that isn't much of an option T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the thing is, you might not want it to be part of the runto T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just get the passdoor wish T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Lol, just saw a guy using a door navigating script, must be gquest.. because he closed the door behind him :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i purposefully omitted including doors in my runtos and saved for the wish T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, blunt qp expenditure succeeds where scripting skill fails T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: also doesn't work for no-pass doors T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i include nopass doors, don't want to spend time opening doors i don't have to T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i've lost gq's by a round, before T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: kill faster T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or open fewer doors :) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: write a script that orders gq mobs for minimum total distance, completely ignoring the opponent element T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I don't participate in GQs, it exposes parts of my personality I do not like :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: gmcp doesn't dump the door status of exits at the moment, which is the problem I think. My autohunt plugin still parses manually T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you got a refund at t5, I would go for it - bc at t5 pass door and ectoplasmic gets you there - not to mention pots T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Passdoor wish, that is T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Autohunt plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: tigernuts, that might take a pretty long time to work T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i love my passdoor wish. haven't regretted it for an instant T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, it's a plugin that does autohunt T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: long thought that all gq entrants should be openpk to each other T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: How is autohunt even remotely legal? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: autohunt isn't very helpful for gq is it? even with fasthunt T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so the t9's can destroy new players? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, gorsk T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: autohunt is very legal unless you stack kill command in the end T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ooh, traveling salesman problem. Sounds like fun :D T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but while they're killing newbies, they're not winning gq's T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: so the player need only be there to hit enter for kill a few times per gq? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: some might go in it just to kill newbies and not care about the gq T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how is it not? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Leinei, sounds er, hard to me T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can you hunt on gq? I assumed you couldn't T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: botting in is now endorsed with gmcp tho T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you mean some people enter gq for anything other than pk? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: hunt trick is apparently used during gq, but isn't discussed how to do it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: entirely valid tactic T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You hunt trick during gquests exactly like you hunt trick during campaigns. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: They're similar in many, many respects. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's insanely slow, jhav T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What Tigernuts was suggesting (finding the total overall shortest path that hits all mobs in a gq) is a very famous problem -- the traveling salesman problem. And a problem that is famously computationally hard. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, yes, but you can't hunt per se T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: well, i'm glad i can't be hunted down during a gq and if all members were allowed to pk one another i don't think i'd ever join one again T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what on earth advantage could that give? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Occasionally useful, though. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no it's not if you have fasthunt and a script for it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav doesn't have a script for it, but still finds it useful. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you seem to have a script for everything else tho T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Would be interesting to see how fast people would be without scripts :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: leinei, probably true across all 12 mobs, which is why the human skill element will always give you an edge T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or absolutely no life and inhuman attention span T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Erm...it's even harder for a person to compute it :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Which of the six identically named princesses in differently named rooms in FT2 is the one I must kill? Well, hunt tricking will tell you! T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav snuggles up to Seltsimees Dagnir. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not really, Tigernuts -- it's not skill, it's just that the time it takes to determine the quickest route is in excess of the time you save T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's true for a human also T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Is there no push to fix hunt trick as a code bug? seems like an exploit T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why? your client does that for you for individual mobs T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: help hunt trick T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a feature T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It absolutely is not. It even has a shiny help file. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hunt trick is a side-effect, exploit which turned out to be a feature T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Tigernuts -- one mob is one thing, 10 mobs is another T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The only reason it's a helpfile is because people got tired of explaining it. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can some one explain hunt trick to me again? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you know the offside rule in football? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: help hunt trick T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: help joke T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec looks through help joke and realises his missed the bit about it being funny T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Would be easy to gix it... if player.qtarget.getShort() == player.where.getShort(), return failMessage :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: fix it too T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: however the code is written :p T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what would that do? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Seems like the administration of the game is more inclined to enable the 0-2 minute gq folks so its a moot point T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: it would remove the hunt trick T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: how? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the hunt trick is not the reason why gq are won so fast T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bots are reason why gqs are won so fast T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i can't remember the last time i hunted in a gq T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hunt trick is probably a tactic of last resort T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: If the short desc of the mob you are 'where'ing for matches a quest/cmapaign/gq target, it fails T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I would imagine hunt trick is a fall back, last resort T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: erm, snap T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can do hunt trick on 'where 1.b, 'where 2.b', etc. Certainly doesn't have to be the whole short name, or even an entire keyword. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: no, it checks the display name of the mob, short desc.. doesn't matter what you use as input T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fast gq's are a combination of fast kill speeds, good area knowledge + decent maps or aliases, mobwalk databases, autorun scripts T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and luck T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: on a gq, the time needed for hunt trick is considered "ages" T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nuts, some people are just plain botting. there's no other word for it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you say that like it's a revelation T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: GQs are mostly for folks who have invested in portals/are botting T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It's not that bad. GQs are fun even if you don't win. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: best i could manage was a 2 min gq without scripting T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Not when you don't have enough time to land more than one kill T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: one of the reasons I play a mud rather than WoW or equivalent is that you can automate bits that drive you nuts T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you do not drive me, Swalec T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm happy with any QP I get. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll take offence if you try T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there have to be limits, but a customized environment seems reasonable T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gq are free qp even if you lose, so what's the issue? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The troll enclosure is that way, Tigernuts, go back where you belong. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have lots of issues with how changes/bots affect the game, but gquests aren't one of them T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: The fact that they end so quickly is bothersome T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i do gqs manually i have very short custom sws, almost all the portals in the game and good area knowledge. i'm pretty fast and i know how fast can one be when doing things manually. i can't help but to declare people bots if they beat me with 4-5+ mobs on a VERY fast gq T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i guess the issue is that some people get those free qps by cheating and thus depriving others of their free qps T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they don't -all- end quickly T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i won one yesterday just because nobody else took part T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I won one like that as well T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it was like having my own personal gq T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gqs have been almost completely ruined for me lately T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: my sole GQ win took about 20 minutes I think:-) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: but I've turned off the channel since then :p T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Already been 4 with no winners since midnight :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yes, that's because the competition is driven away by the bots. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You... turned off the gquests channel? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then join them to trip up the bots then T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I don't see updates anymore :p T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bots fall over if you pk them T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh shush, Jhav, you're part of the problem. :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I tried to hold off remorting cause of you Jhav, then I just decided to forget it and keep ignoring gqs :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, indeed. one of the most prominent ones, in fact T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i remember Ninja spitting chunks at me because I attacked him in a gq when i had no chance of actually killing him, but it caused him to lose T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: I remember getting an enormous amount of satisfaction from that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i can't really blame the "modern" gq bots T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because it's endorsed by the mud via gmcp T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think a nice solution would be to have beginers GCs T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what, you only blame the old ones? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so, some GCs would be open to all, some would be limited to those with < 100 wins T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and so on T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, the old ones had to put effort in writing their bots. nowdays you can download a legal, public package T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: How about a timer on how many wins you can have in 24 hrs? :p T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a better solution - disable parts of gmcp during gqs T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Wouldn't matter. The rooms are already mapped. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: alternatively you could have it so that new mobs are used for gquests, not ones in the area, and that they don't give room names T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It does pathfinding within the client. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: true, but the scripts rely on more than that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have gq where you have to turn in items rather than kills T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people used to have mappers before mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: gmcp wasn't used on Aard before MUSHclient used it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's all kinds of things you could change to render bots less useful T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: such as? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: disabling parts of gmcp would be the easiest T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, why would removing gmcp stop those mappers? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Not only bots, but having clients do the heavy lifting T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all disabling gcmp would do would be to parse the advantage back to those of us who use zmud and scripted/coded around the lack of gcmp T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it wouldn't stop the mappers, but it would make the players parse some of the information themselves T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Is a gq a test of the player or his or her client? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: while -i- might find that a handy solution, you might not T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: you could argue it is the latter, presently T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Removing gmcp only during a gq would do absolutely nothing. What part of those scripts would use gmcp? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: but then we're back to where we started with the people with the best bots winning T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: don't need room modules. don't really need char modules T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: lately it has become a competition of scripts, not people T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you put someone with mushclient and maps with no game knowledge against someone without maps but with good game knowledge, the latter would win T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not solely about the scripts, but they do give a huge advantage T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I disagree. Newbies can do gquests in <5 minutes with the right scripts. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well 5 minutes isn't fast T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: newbies aren't fast T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh yes they are T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've never done a gq in 5 minutes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i get beaten by kids with a pile of mush scripts nowdays T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i was called a bot back in the day T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: 1. make mobs not show in "where" like they are in "hunt". 2.new mobs for gq only, like tigernuts said. i think both of these would cut down on the gq scipters/ T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that wouldn't help, sindain T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: perhaps obfuscate mob names in gquests.. make it an actual quest :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: new mobs would penalize people who know the areas T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people who never did gqs before and have up to 50 wins now complete gqs in 2-3 minutes. that's not normal T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you would need unique mobs that didn't show on where or hunt T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: listen to mobs, if they mention a clue, they are your mark T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: so you'd take out entirely the advantage of game knowledge, sindain? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Seems like that would hurt humans more than bots T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ones that could be used across all ranges so that db's couldn't b e used to back em up T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's actually a planned feature I believe, Dek. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: scripts* T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The obfuscating mob names, that is. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: No, maybe use the short desc instead of the mob name. So hunting would be impossible but you'd have to know the area. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: That would be wonderful T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: It isn't much of a quest if your client does all the thinking T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, i'm going back to levelling now, i'm sure you'll all sort it out T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: and all you have to do is point it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's mostly wonderful. I'll actually welcome it, with a few headache-inducing exceptions. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: short desc is the mob name. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Zangar's gro-'s, etc. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or long desc, whatever. The one you see in the room :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I'm sure we will all love it until you guys figure out how to not-bot it :p T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, jhav trying to pretend he's for manual playing :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then the scripts would just collect long descriptions T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But that will just be a small hurdle till the bots fix that, yeah. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I am, though. During a gquest I'm continually typing - people vastly over-estimate how much I automate things. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm still sticking with my "gmcp is the root of all evil" spiel T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh come on T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: How about different GQ mobs for each player, and you won't know you found a GQ mob until you listen to it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobile phones and soaps on tv are the root of all evil T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and bloody facebook T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't throw accusations like that around easily, but have you ever seen your own whois? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: You are given a list of areas T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: "Cable Guy" T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: dif mobs woni't slow bots down a bit T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: won't* T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, they would T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They'd slow down humans more T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: No list of mobs, any mob being a potential target within an area :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: If a player has listened to more than 20 mobs within 1 minute, they get fatigued T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so you'd have to wipe out an entire area? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bots rely on the mobs list in any area being unchanging, it can match up a mobname and areaname from a list T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, since bots are run by humans, you couldn't "fix" botting without severely hampering the "real" players. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: gq should turn a bunch of random people targets :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, how would a human find this mob, Tigernuts? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: remove the link, you remove the point of the bot - best they can do is move you to the start of the area, which isn't much of an advantage T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: using your eyes, leinei T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If the mob is whereable, then it's easy for a script to where it, and immediately run to the room T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it were me, i'd put in dummy mobs that had similar short names that were a lot harder to kill to trip people up T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's not whereable, it's way easier for a script to scour an area than a human T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't make it whereable T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Just punish people stacking commmands during GQs? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep, and rightly so, dek T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm sure if you can think of any solution that would inconvenience bots more than people lasher would imp it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: stacking is indicative of runnign the gq as a script, perhaps not botting T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can make a depth first search that can go through every single room in any area that doesn't require mobprogs. It's going to be way faster than anything you can do by hand. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe we need a "gq imm" with a bagful of bot traps and arsenal of nukes? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's why no one idea would be a panacea T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: how do you determine a bot trap? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The only thing that inconviences scripts more than humans is captchas (and I don't mean the common notion of captchas, I mean the actual definition) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe we should just accept that gqs are usually scripting competitions T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Captchas for folks who both win and stack commands more often than average players? :p T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if the only solution you'll accept is a perfect one, you'll probably never change anything T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh come on. bots aren't independent robots, they're run by people T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: We probably want one that will make things better, and not worse, though :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the problem is that all these suggestions inconvenience players more than they do bots T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: except for the gmcp one, redryn T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disable gmcp? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just disable parts of it during gqs T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: personally i'd rather see better small-scale challenging epic areas than fiddling with gqs T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What part of gmcp is useful during a gq? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Which is why I turned off GQs for me :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: essentially break some functionality of the scripts like search and destroy T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I focused on goals instead T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well there are pre-aardmush scripts... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I think this conversation is going in circles. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno, room # info for example T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: search and destroy doesn't use gmcp if you've already mapped the area T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: just shut the gq down... no more worries about gqbots.. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but yes i agree the proliferation of winkle's scripts are unsettling T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: goals were a great idea, badly executed imho T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They don't really do anything that the regular mapper doesn't T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Would that h be honest, humble or honourable? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disabling gmcp stops the aard mapper T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Honor, honesty and humility have absolutly nothing to do with GQs T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm fin with mappers, people had them before mush T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, it would crash it, yeah. But the goto parts of it doesn't use it. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn raises an eyebrow. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dek: in the imho, see Tigernuts. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: imo would confuse people T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if the mapper doesn't know where it is, it can't find its way to any room T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but lately gqs have become a bot contest. i think redryn would agree as an old-school gqer T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Oh I see heh T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my h is largely irrelevent T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But if you only disable it during a gq, it's already doing to know where everything is T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It doesn't use gmcp in its pathfinding T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: dagnir, i use the mapper now :p T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As is your o, from time to time. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well we're all entitled to them, trurin T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just yours is poo T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but you also mentioned s&d plugin T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: imHo T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: See what I mean about the h. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I wouldn't mind GQs ending so quickly if perhaps they stayed open for newer/slower/up and coming players.. maybe an extra minute or two T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav nods at Dek. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and that's going too far, don't you agree? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I think the 2nd/3rd place thing would be a good idea. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my solution is to make bottable things redundant by having other avenues of gaining stuff T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you already have, redryn T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for gq, you have cps and donating T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: cps are bottable too T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: It'd certainly give me incentive to try, even if I won't win the main prize T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and quest T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If the players who'd won 3 GQs also aren't allowed to win 2nd/3rd in GQ. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: maybe not even qp, but gold or whatever T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gold you have killing mobs, scavenging, enchanting T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: cps being an unbottable alternative to gqs is a funny proposition. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no time limit on cps, leinei T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, none of you talking about gqs are actually regular (or good) gqers T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: well, a very long time limit :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav blinks innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: with few exceptions :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien peers intently at Seltsimees Dagnir. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: He's talking about making unbottable things more worthwhile than bottable things T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Things like inferno, etc. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't count jhav, you're the problem T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods at Leinei. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'll admit I'm not good, but that's part of the problem isn't it :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: "Good" is being skewed by the automatons. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: too bad i can't convince people about it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Dagnir, just because we haven't won them a bunch does not mean we do not have a grasp of how the system works T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: give us some concrete examples, redryn T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: inferno T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Red: that'd draw the attention of the bots away to trying to get more interesting things, you think? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: inferno is blighted by the need to invest a long time for a lot of players T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you have a grasp, but you don't have the long term experience T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Leaving the GQs for the real competitors? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but the concept T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: of group oriented difficult tasks T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: raiding is another example T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can't bot anything that needs a sizeable group T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: And as such, only those with long term experience are valuable commentators? :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: I personally don't think things that require 20+ people are a viable way forward, though T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I have a long term experience of what it's like to lose GQs. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think 5+ is good enough T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though i agree, just at a smaller level, maybe 4-12 participants T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, but what about 4-5 T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Right T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, i'm just saying that the convo has too much noise and stupid suggestions because of that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: inferno runs are only for high tier pupped SHs,not for regular players T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: So ignore people T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Not everyone feels the same way that you do T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if an inferno-like area for 5 people, with rewards > cps, wyrm pupping came in T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i am sure no one would bother with scripting those T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure, i was just pointing it out T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or less anyway T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's an idea i've already suggested in quite a lot of detail, redryn T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: me too T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: excellent T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I regularly ignore and unignore druzil because sometimes I am in the mood for crazy and sometimes I am not :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i actually built an area T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: il T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: go to test port and test it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: kthnx T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn . o O ( if not that's all just talk! ) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't worry, it's all talk T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "test port" is the magic word to scare away people with suggestions T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well clearly if it's an area requiring 5+ people, you're going to need 5+ people to test it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Guess I should've programmed my depth-first search 5 minutes ago. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you are just 1 person nuts, not five, right? so you don't count T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's right T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: testing includes trying to get it to bug out T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup, that's what builders are for T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you'll only go if someone else gathers 5+ and personally invites you T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, see. most people got quiet when you said "test port" T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my primary allegiance is to my clan, not to builders T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only nuts is still rambling, but he's kind of like druzil of tech anyway T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: problem is that anything that requires multiple players will be rarely done, like the current epic areas T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: why not have epic areas for single players T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure they didn't have 30 people test inferno on test port T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: guess why inferno now takes 30 people T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it was never intended to take that many T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: that puts it in so much perspective. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats why you want a dedicated team of builders to be responsible for such areas, rather than a shotgun approach T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and if it wasn't as intended, why not update it? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, but finding good builders is hard T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yeah, since we have WAAY too many with our current approach T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because the builders got pissed off about people whining on live and not testing T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: testing should be done by testers, not regular people imho T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you go build an area that isn't bottable and is designed to be repeatable by one person, I'm sure Lasher would be willing to discuss appropriate rewards with you. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i agree, ranrr T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so who's a tester? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and i notice you never heard our clan builders complain T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 20% of the online population of Aardwolf is a tester T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and how many actually test? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: exactly T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I am a full time software tester at work :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: aka SDET T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: as am I, Dek T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And I know that most people are bad at testing. You need a special kind of people for testing. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i disagree T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: well if you want full coverage T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: you need testers and users :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if people can find problems on live, they could have found it on test T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: testers first, then users T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the difference? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: and within users you want a broad sweep of use cases T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: testing should be part of the development of an area, just as you do it with developing software T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you go do a goal and think "This could've been better if...", guess what? You're a good enough tester to test. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i stopped testing when you had to register as a tester. i did "testing runs" every once in a while when i spent a day messing with things and providing feedback. i got my testing rights revoked because apparently i wasn't doing it regularly enough T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You haven't had to register as a tester for like 3 years now T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i thought you just logged on T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Redryn. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can ask to be flagged if you want to get notes and stuff i suppose T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know, i haven't been on test port since T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken Styliann Tech: all the tester flag does is mean that if Lasher does a code change he needs looking at you get a note here about it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure there are plenty of approaches that could be taken, but bitching about people who can't/won't/don't test isn't going to help T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it makes people test, it does T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 1 good tester would be enough for this game. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and dismissing people's opinions because they don't test won't win you any points either T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just as 1 coder is enough. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: oh I don't know about that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only the game core has 1 coder, areas and other scripting is done by many different people T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think it's dismissing opinions T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's losing the will to bother making changes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure. I still think my statement is true. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i disagree T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Assuming someone wanted to spend a couple of hours a day on testing. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: especially with areas and goals. people approach them from different angles T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn raises an eyebrow at Ranrr's weird actions. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yeah, everyone wants more crashes and bugs than we have now with lots of testers. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: test port is all about crashes and bugs T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, microsoft is probably overkilling with more than 1 tester T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: ... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as a side comment, Leinei, i've heard more than one person grumble about how bug-free aard is - there are very few bugs people can find and abuse for there own ends..... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They have more than 1 developer. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if any complaint was a good one, that was it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And we have the testers to thank for that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think you have Lasher to thank for that T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Windows is easily over 4000 people in either test, dev, or PM T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the more complex the software is the more bugs you have T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but 1 tester is more than enough dek T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You think Lasher has the time to test every goal and every area that comes in? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Not for windows at large, no it is not :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nothing else would get done T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not talking about goals, i'm talking about -code- changes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: goals are content T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mprogs can bug too T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So was I. I meant that 1 tester for content should be enough. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And what about the dozens and dozens of bugs that the testers do find? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it could be worse :-) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can crash the port with bad mprogs, progs i could have placed in a goal T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ranrr, how many goals do have you solved? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why is that relevant? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's a lot harder than it used to be, Redryn :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just as easily can you wipe characters, make cheat eq and so on T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because i think you don't know anything about doing nor testing them T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I'm up to 101 goals.. I love solving them.. and sometimes when they seem broken.. its fun to figure out that you just weren't thinking about them in the right way T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can think whatever you want. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and you can obviously say what ever you want. true or not T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyway, point is T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if we had more testers we'd probably be done with subclasses by now T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that is all T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1 tester for content is NOT enough. i solve goal and i have tested them as well. they need different approaches to find all the quirks T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Imms can verify my total, if you'd like :P I'm not shy. I had qualms over goals a few months ago.. I think things that have been introduced to the game at large have been overall very sturdy in terms of code quality T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There are currently 193 bugs on the bugtracker. This is all stuff (code-based, not goals/area based) that got found by players on MAIN port. That's not even counting all the ones that got caught by testers before they even came to main. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am not saying testing is not needed. If it was, I would not have a job. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: was not* T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But you're saying 1 person is enough? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: For one, the game simply doesn't crash on a daily basis. I'm not sure if you all have played muds where crashes are a daily risk.. but reliability and uptime are fantastic here :D T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I _good tester_ would be enough T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 1 T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: depends on your definition of enough T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you mean acceptable sure T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To find the bugs and quirks of goals so they could be tested by users. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you paying anyone to test 10 hours a day professionally? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think you're confusing the definition of testing T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: testing includes user testing T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you need 10 hours a day to test 1 goal per week, you are not a good tester. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can guarantee you that one person, working 80-hour weeks, every week, every year would not catch all the things currently on the bugtracker. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could argue there are too many goals....... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or however often a new goal is added. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have you logged onto test port? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm fairly familiar with goal and aq logic on aard. however, even after testing a goal thoroughly and finding some bugs someone else found things i never thought of checking. goal/area testing needs more than 1 person for different approaches T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How many of you arguing against me are professional testers or developers? Just want to check. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts raises his hand. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because you have no idea what's happening on test port T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 1) testers do not have code access T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I rest my case. End of discussion. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I used to be. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're debugging code, good for you. how does it relate to goal/area testing? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If one person was good enough, why are there bugs in the first place? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Wouldn't the person that coded it know it better than anyone? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: leinei, don't confuse the mud code and content T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: lol Leinei.. that is the immortal question for QA :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm not confusing them. Two different people have proposed arguments for both T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: If devs didn't write buggy code, there wouldn't be a need for test :P I for one love buggy code :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: pays my bills T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If devs wrote bug-free code, products would take forever to mean something :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Windows ME T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts coughs loudly. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Simple answer is nobody is perfect, and software can't be perfect :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can write a bugfree hello world program T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i am sure it would be perfect T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: On your first attempt? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei looks around and whistles innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Do it in Brainfuck :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I've been out of coding for nearly 10 years. It'd probably take me a couple of tries :P T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: except nobody will use your hello world program T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yay wiki. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Is it cross-platform and able to ship with proper locale and internationalization support? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trurien will T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there, now stop bitching at each other T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No thanks, it's 6AM, and I didn't go to sleep last night, either. I don't have time to take advantage of double exp. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Here's a tech question: why the heck am I not sleepy? :( T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: the mystery of the 2nd wind T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Start out tired.. not sleep.. end up more awake than before T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's 1pm no reason to be sleepy T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, it's been...over 41 hours now, so that's probably 3rd or 4th wind by now T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Since you didn't go to bed, you probably needed to be awake to hunt mammoth or something. Thank evolution. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: well, as a backup T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: its different, but they interact T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oops T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: wrong chat T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what is the command that lost point exp train practice with dead T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei boggles at the concept. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: after dead ,want to konw how is lost T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: not sure if trolling... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: This must be how I sound when I try to speak Spanish. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: yea, you should write an android app T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: crap T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei comforts MeisterP. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: why do i keep talking on the wrong chan T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If MSFT won't reactivate my copy of XP over the net, does that mean they think I'm using a pirate key? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: There have been cases of false positives of course, but certainly means that is what they think :) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, it means you've already used up that key. You can only use a key once. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: just joined this conversation, analogy for virginism? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But there is a trick. Call them, and say you have made a hard drive switch. Then they'll reactivate it. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: That simple? ... The sad part is that my computer turned off in the middle of the night and Windows detect "significant hardware changes" ... which I'm thinking means it's starting to go anyway T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: my eq is only updating when I type eqdb refresh? anyone know why? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: anyone know of a mimiwindow quest and cp plugin for mush? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: Bast T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger Bast T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: code.google.com/p/bastmush/downloads T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: quiet mode doesnt block any actual data to/from your client, it just filters it after you receive it, correctm? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no mud setting controls your client.. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: wh 10 T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: my eqwin dissappeared? what do i do? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: bast's mini windows? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: restart miniwin_eq T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: I reinstalled it and enabled it and it's still not showing? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: did you get any errors before it vanished? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: yes I did actually. but i don't remember what it said, It was a lot T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: my mushclient refers the dot "." as an alias of gossip. How to turn it off? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I don't think it's a client-side alias. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is mudside shortcut. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just use the dot as an alias for something? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: flych, restart both the miniwin eq and the eqdb T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: I did that, the window is still gone? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: i 'alias . abc' but if type '.a' ... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flych Reason: Executing plugin miniwin_eq sub OnPluginInstall T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: ok I got the window back but now it's not updating (when I wear or remove items it doesn't update the page) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: type invmon, must say something about updating inventory tags T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: to update your eq or inv window manually type invdata & eqdata T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: ahh, a little warning when using bast's eq miniwin. if your bag has LOTS of stuff in it and you try viewing it in the miniwin, you might crash. it could be just me though, not sure. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Is there a debug mode other than debug packets in MUSHclient? Trying to track down why importing an old file (triggers/aliases/etc...) killed a few of my newer triggers and I want to see which triggers are firing. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: trace T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: ... in game menu T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although I find it's rather full of broadcast messages these days T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Ahh-- not sure how I missed that. Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone know of an iPad app that allows debugging information to be checked? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Keystrokes with timestamps, cursor movement etc. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Yeah, that pretty much filled my screen as soon as I started it. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: if you disable maps, spellup and all the miniwindows in existance, it gets easier T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: how do i make an alias for mapper resume? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: make whatever, and send it to execute instead of world T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: how do i sent it to execute instead of world? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: in the dripdown where it says 'send to' T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: thank you T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: wait, what dropdown T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: HA HA JK T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: anyone know of a good place to get battle sounds? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: what kind of battle sounds? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: for triggers? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger winklewinkle, he has a sound pack for aard T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: like sword fighting or something? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: battle music or battle sounds? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what all it contains T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: hmmm either or T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I have a few games from steam and there are some sound dirs with decent sound files with triggers in Mush T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: whoa - my last statement wasn't coherent lol - too much coffee. I mean to say, I have some steam games that have accessible sound files that I also use for mud sounds via Mush triggers and such. =) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's a good method, lots of games have clashing sword, death, etc sounds in a sounds folder T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are several debug commands in mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Debug T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: could someone assist me on how to make the sound trigger when a battle starts? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: on aardmush - does anyone know the file name where the mapfiles are stored on your computer? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Talk to Winklkwinkle T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf.db T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaines Tech: ty turie T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a sound when a battle starts is a waste of a trigger -- a sound trigger when double starts is more useful T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flych Tech: what is double starts? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xyliz, some people like to hear battle sounds for ambience T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: He might want to get that Final Fantasy feeling going, battle music. :) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-experience T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You don't have a limited number of triggers, so it is hard to 'waste' one. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you do have a limited number of triggers, it's just a big number T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every trigger slows down processing T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: even triggers in plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whenever the client receives a line from the MUD, it must check that line against every [fallthrough] trigger T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: in mushclient, how to output texts in main/chat window? so i could read it myself? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the chat window T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: and how to make chat window capture this? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chat window always captures it...echo determines whether it's ALSO put into main window T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: i tried 'echo test', but it only showed on my main window T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo isn't a channel T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo is a debugging tool T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the echo setting in the right-click isn't the aardwolf echo command T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you right-click communication log, one of the options is "echo channels in main window" T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives options of all, none, or custom T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: in shortwords, i want to input some notes in my custom exits, and i want those notes appear on chat window, make it easy to follow T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: With the aardclient, the default scripting prefix is "\\\", changing this to something else won't break anything the customized aardclient needs right? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: correct T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can make it whatever you want T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Has anyone done PostScript programming? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: long time ago T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: painful T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: I'm new to mushclient how do make an alias with a variable like cast magic T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, just use in-aard aliases for those T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So you're wanting to type "mm monkey", and it'll send "cast 'magic missile' monkey"? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: but is it %* or $* what is the command? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so for leinei's example, you'd just type " alias mm c 'magic missile' " T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: alias mm c magic T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: then mm will do it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: I'm confused now, I thought you had to have variable to cast, say a heal spell on another player? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ochse Tech: in mush client it would be mm * then in the command box you would type c 'magic missile' %1 T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Damn, alias mm c magic worked! T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you do what Abelinc says, hyou can then do "mm monkey", and you'll cast magic missle on it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never need a variable, but heals need a target if not yourself T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only if you don't have magic circle or magical rush :P Abelinc's example makes sure it'll always cast magic missile and not one of those two other spells. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: wouldn't i need a variable if i wasn't targeting myself? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need a target...that could be a variable but doesn't have to be T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you alias mm to cast 'magic missile' mud-side, then no, it'll automatically append whatever argument you provide. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And once you're in combat, you'd only have to type mm T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Because what is after the mm is appended onto the 'c magic' in the prior example. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: oh there is ingame alias? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yep T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for spells, I only use the in-game aliases T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: okay thanks guys I'll give ingame alias a go :) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: There is an in client one. Ctrl-shift-9, use %1, %2 to replace first wildcard, second, yadda yadda T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for in-mushclient, you need to be more careful in what you call the alias... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in-aard works with or without an argument...in-mush, it's trickier T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: ABELINC! T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whazzap greg? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: HOW R U MAN??? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: abelINc T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alixana's Gregor hugs you. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still breathing :-) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: I think I get it, now I'll give it ago thanks guys T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stuhilly Tech: how do I delete an alias? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unalias, if in-aard T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: GO back to that ctrl-shift-9 screen if on client T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases, highlight,remove if mush T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: how can I make a plugin variable to contain a table ? only with serialization stuff ? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you want it to save the table when you close MUSH? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: yup T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then yeah, that's the easiest way. It's just one line to save, and one line to load. Not hard. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And if you put it in certain functions, it'll do it all automatically T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone buy skyrim for their pc? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: I.. have it, yes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: another question - can plugin have "global" variable, containing a table and accessible to all functions ? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you mean functions also in that plugin, right? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: yup, Leinei T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then yeah T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: or any lua code outside of and etc. tags will work when loading a plugin ? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yep T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: pick up basts plugins, check them out for how it's done. there is broadcasters which only collect data, and other plugins that use that data. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: thanks for a suggestion, Slodhian, it's all clear now =) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: np T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: any way to call Send() with a destination code ? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: send special? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: destination code? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: script/execute/etc T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What are you trying to do? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: special then T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I see T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you wouldn't need to call send() with the destination code, use the appropriate function... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: e.g. execute() T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send() means world... T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ok, got that, thanks =) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't need send to script, as you're either wanting to call a function, or execute what you're sending as script code, neither of which needs a special function of its own T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Any thoughts on the AMD Fusion dual-core processors? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Looking at a Lenovo mini-notebook, thinking of ordering it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I must be doing something wrong. I am setting a variable in MUSH via a trigger. I verified that the variable is correct under "Variables" within MUSH. But, when I try to Note(variable) I get nil as the result. Any ideas on what I am messing up? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably which type of variable it is T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you doing SetVariable()? if so, then use GetVariable() to display it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: ahh ok.. yes, I am using setvariable. I'll play around with getvariable then. thank you kindly =) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're not needing the variable longterm, you don't need to use set/getvariable. Just declare the variable, and use it. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Nods, I am using the variable across a couple of aliases and triggers - basically it is setting roomname via the rname tag and I am trying to display it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you needing it to save when you close MUSH? If not, I wouldn't bother using get/setvariable. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, what are you doing with the roomname? it's already captured into script variables by GMCP T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Actually, I don't need to save it after I close mush. I am using a trigger to set roomname, and then want to display it after I kill a mob T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try "tags mapnames on" T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then the room name should be in the ascii mapper to still be displayed after the kill T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: oh - I must of had those turned off! doh! Thanks Abe! T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: need some help... want to make a trigger that deactivates itself after a few times, but my tries with a variable countdown all failed :/ T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: anybody knows at least what to search for? cannt even find something like that on the mushclient hp T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What do you have no to implement the counter? T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: now. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping. T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: nothing anymore.. tried a few things with Get&SetVariable and if i < 0 , but it just kept going to -X T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: the variable actually doesnt change if you use it in same function. you need to exit it and then change, and come back to get it T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: from what i'm hearing it's his if statement that's not working properly T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: best use variables within function than the mushvars T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: well, I agree gorsk T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: uuh.. well guess ill read a little more about statements and how to handle variable.. somehwere there mustve been my mistake T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: now that I read his tech with time :) T3/r5/2011-11-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: thx for the tips T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh waves happily. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharingan Tech: hi everyone T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharingan Tech: hi i just reinstalled mushclient, but the only thing that is showing is the command prompt... how do i display the map, status bars, and other stuff onto my window? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Heyhey - did you get it from the google repo? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharingan Tech: yeah i googled it and installed it T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharingan Tech: like google "mush client" T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush is the raw client, AardMUSH is the aardwolf flavoured version - with mapper, etc T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharingan Tech: that explains it.... there is a aard package T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also try 'finger bast' for some sweet addons T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: where could i take an OSR for aard..? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am trying out Bast's stats mwin -- thehelp says the command is mstat and that mstat hide should DWIM T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but I just get Invalid Command T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and the help pops up -- am I doing something wrong? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: i never use a command to get the miniwin up, i also use miniwin tabwin with it though, T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, that works, but I have a small screen, hence... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: also I am a bit keyboard biased T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah well, nver mind T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: does everyone pretty much use winrar for rar files? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I use the Linux unrar tool. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think WinAce can cope with rar files as well. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: kk if a file is already a disc image it doesnt need to use a winrar right T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: what are you using the iso for? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: anyone here got blackberry? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, ate them all T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: did until last week T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: guys i need help T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: with? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: how do i set up blackberry internet etc.?got my R60 airtime.. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no idea about those T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobile phones are one of the 3 great modern evils T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: anyone?please T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what are 2 other evils? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: soap operas, and welfare state T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: welfare ? why, it is nice when someone gives you money for nothin T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the two things you've just said are not the same T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: ohk guys are screwing around thats why i dint want to ask here,if you do know and tell me and it works youl get a tp token T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: im sorry, but i cant be an enabler of phone mudders :P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you need to download mxit for your BB T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: ya when i got bbm?mxm T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there a way to amplify a weak wireless signal using a makeshift reflector dish or some such? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Trying to google, but it won't work due to weak signal T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use external antena T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Signal repeater. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a cable T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tiger'snuts. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google pringle antenna T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cantenna, you mean ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: It is both. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll be found with both, but was called the cantenna T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: meh, google will find it anyway :p T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: guh, is there a way to tell windows DO NOT CONNECT to a given wireless network? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There is a useless 5-bar network that keeps knocking my main connection out T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: you should be able to make your primary the preferred by ordering it that way T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You would think that, but alas it is not so T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I moved the interfering network to last priority and even unchecked the "connect when available" box and it STILL interferes T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you found the options for the ordering though? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thats weird.... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yes, I've known about that since forever, I simply cannot get this network to stop interfering with my connection. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can interfere without you connecting to it... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try changing the frequency of your connection T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's some 'hpsetup' computer to computer network, or something. No idea whose it is, but I'm right on top of it. If I find where it's coming from I'll just shut it down. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the router should have a drop-down in the wireless section to select a channel...select one that's 3 steps away from the hpsetup network T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: press the "view wireless networks" button, then click on "change the oder of wireless networks", then click on the one you don't want and click properties and then go on the connection bar and uncheck the "connect when this network is in range" box T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, seems it might have been a printer T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I unplugged the bastard T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: in Mush, is it possible to enable or disable a trigger via a command? I know I can use a script to check a variable for on or off, but was wondering if Mush had a built in way of doing this? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnableTrigger() T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: woot! ty kindly =) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Any speculation on why the mapper would run me to the e T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Any speculation on why the mapper would run me to the SE of Gelidus whenever i ask it to go to wildwood? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have an incorrect portal designation T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: K, I'll check it out. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Ok, figured it out. 'mapper thisroom' shows R#19450 has a "d" exit that leads to R#321, but there is clearly no down in this room. I didn't put it there, and delete cexits didn't get rid of it. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: you'll have to sqlite it out or reset the whole area T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Ok. Good thing I figured out how to do that last week! :-P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to purge the antharia area... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: room 321 WAS down from 19450 when it was antharia before rename to wildwood T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Ahhhh T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: hey guys, can i use a prepaid visa card to buy apps from the android market in a different currency? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: try it. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: visa automatically converts currencies T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: so if i load a visa card with R100 (which is the currency in south africa) i can buy apps that are in dollars? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't use credit cards T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether the android market works in SA I wouldn't know, but if it does, then yes T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: money is money T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mxit works from anywhere in the world, but mxit app doesn't let me buy mxit moolah from the US, for example, so I can't use aard from mxit, since that costs moolah T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: cooooooool..... Ive been struggling with this "get paid apps without credit card" for a year now.... Never knew you can just buy them T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've always wondered if there's a special aard app on mxit or is it just plain telnet? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a gateway T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: meaning? i'm curious about the features T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mxit is just an IM app...you basically go into the games section aard room T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no features T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: it looks way cooler.... And i enjoy playing on mxit better than my pc T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: has no features but is somehow way cooler? :\ T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you should all be trying to minimise the amount of money paid to bankers and governments :-) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the only psuedo ethical payment-based financial company out there is Paypal T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger suggests driving from SA to the US and handing cash to the developer T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: well, the idea of it being part of your contacts list is cool cause you just pop in and out to chact to friends T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, use paypal T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's still using a bank fund such as credit card... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use your current account T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the bank gets their cut and paypal gets their cut T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bank won't get anything from the transfer from you T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: And Abelinc gets his cut. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paypal is ethical? hahaha, oh wow :'D T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they at least invest in useful things T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: visa also invests in usefuls things: like cards T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paypal is essentially a bank that doesn't follow bank regulations T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unlike banks and other financial corporations whose only interest is bankrupting the planet T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: so just to make sure a prepaid visa card will be transferred into dollars automatically...? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paypal has the exact same interest as the banks...make money for itself T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well any business does T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: "Everyone should use bitcoins" HAHA :) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everyone should go back to bartering T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, visa/mc/amex all do currency conversions automatically T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and unlike regulated banks, paypal freezes assets T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean freezes them on whims T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only an issue if you use it to be paid T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: beautifull.... But how does the bank get its cut from me making such a transaction T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampfox, the bank is paid a fee by the one being sent the money T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. you send $10 to someone, they only get $9.xx T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not strictly true T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paypal has frozen (essentially stolen) millions of dollars without giving people or companies any reasons T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: recipient pays the fee T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not the sender T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just said that T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so cut the ethical bs T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "being sent" = recipient, not sender... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so are you suggesting it's not ethical to charge for a service? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: ah.....*badword* T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's suggesting it's not ethical to seize funds unwarranted T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've never heard of it happening here T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm saying that paypal robs people and companies from their money T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never hold an account with paypal, they suck funds from my accounts on demand, so they have nothing to freeze T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: becoming quite common here for banks to charge people very large sums of money for going marginally overdrawn T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ditto T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if they decide to try, I have recourse at the bank and the fed T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's just a handy method of payment T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google "paypal minecraft/diaspore" for example T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or, try "paypal freezes ..." google suggestions. it's pretty messed up stuff T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: paypal have a arbitration system that works considerably faster than most banks T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what the hell are you talking about? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but then, they fill a specific niche, and are subject to a lot of pressures and situations banks don't have to deal with T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not talking about their services, i'm talking about it being evil and unjust T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: so does itunes appstore work in the same manner? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you work for paypal or something? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I bet you say that about all western civilization, don't ya, Dagnir? :P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dagnir is waiting for the return of communism T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the evil/unjust side is only for the vendor, not for the consumer...if the vendor you're using accepts paypal, it's still both the most secure and the most convenient method... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, right. i'm desperate for a regime that killed 23% of my people in a few years T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't say i was too happy about predictions of payments all being done through contactless technology of phones T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: back to basics - tigernuts said that paypal is a good, ethical company. i'm saying it's not and have evidence to back it up T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: compared to other banks, they are T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they screw small businesses on regular basis T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the guy who sold up paypal to ebay sunk a lot of funds into teh civilian space program T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is no ethical company, every company deals with money, and money are unethical T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least regular banks screw people according to regulations T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paypal takes it further T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no bank will just take your money and refuses to give explanations why they did that T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's a misnomer, banking regulations T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: look where banking regulations got the world T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean greed, regulations are good T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: regulations don't work T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I think you mean "lack of". T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least according to these regulations the banks can't just take all of your businesses money T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: erm T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they just did T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you might have noticed this world debt crisis T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not talking about investments or other bs. i'm talking about your regular damn debit account T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Of course regulations work. Canada and France both nearly completely avoided the worldwide recession because of their banking regulations. The only 2 nations to do so. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's all one and the same T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: france did not T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: same difference T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, but banks are still bad and paypal is awesome because it's not a bank? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, they're all bad, paypal is just slightly less bad than the rest T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: great logic T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's the contrary, paypal is only slightly worse than the banks T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but paypal aren't bank T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just a payment arbiter T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not on paper, but it operates as one T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't operate anything like one T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paypal has account with a balance, y'know T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like a bank T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: last time i checked, paypal doesn't make loans T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: every institution that stores money for other people can and does charge these people for the service. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but unlike banks they can take your money any time they feel like it T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and they do that on regular basis T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can guarantee you that they cannot take my money T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: absolutely catagorically T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because you don't have any on your paypal account? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (i don't have any) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that would be fraud, dude, and not the slick, smart kind T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've never taken/kept any funds T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, so you're saying that paypals actions are cool and it's peoples fault they had money there? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they freeze funds where a fraud flag or a complaint flag has been raised T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's no different to any other bank T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once the investigation is undertaken, the funds go where they should, not to paypal T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: exactly T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's happened to me befoer T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for something awful's case, they went back to the donators T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I can say in the 7-8 years I've had a paypal account that they've never taken any money from me. In fact, they gave me 21 cents during the bank account validation process and they've never asked for it back. I'm not saying you're wrong because I have no idea what they do to other people, just giving my example. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravyn Tech: paypal makes it's money on what is called "float" they use the money they store in safe investments and collect the interest for themselves. paypal maintains the slow turn time on money to allow them to hold onto it for a couple days for extra interest T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they froze $750k of minecraft makers account without giving any specific reason T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they didn't freeze funds, you'd be bitching that they condone/perpetuate credit card fraud... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chances are it was probably over some kind of copyright, trademark, or patent suit T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: ..........anyway.. Thanks alot guys! T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where is that 750k now, dagnir? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they didn't even give a reason. do you understand that? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they did T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they don't ahve to give a reason to you T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: third parties never get told anything. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: third parties? you mean the owner of the money? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: After a quick 5 second google seach, the reason was "a suspicious withdrawal or deposit!" just because he was pissed and didn't like that reason doesn't mean one wasn't given. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i was just reading the initial interview where he's talking about his interactions with paypal T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it WAS suspicious activity T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can't find -any- mainstream news reporting of it T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which tells you a lot T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dude had a business account, with a normal trend of funds...all of a sudden it spikes up like 1,000% one month...that's not suspicious to an outsider looking at it? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: mainstream news is overrated. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was legit, but that doesn't mean it didn't appear suspicious T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: diaspora is another case T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was damned glad when my credit card company froze my credit card due to suspicious activity T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also wikileaks, katrina victmis donations, all sorts of other stuff T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've had my debit card frozen when on a 400-mile car trip...annoyed the piss out of me, but it happens when they see activity that doesn't look normal to your habits T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all paid to the owners, dagnir T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i wouldn't want my bank blocking my card if there's money coming IN :P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not stealing when the owners get the money T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, but it caused them massive problems T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm still a bit baffled by mine, abe, a credit card that had only ever been used twice, and the last time was on an old card with a prior cvn/expiry T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they don't think it's your money or legal money... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yet someone still got the details T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I would want your bank doing it though, to make sure you're doing anything illegal. It's not just you that banks have to protect, you know. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, as I said, if they didn't freeze accounts, you'd be all over bitching that they're enabling credit card fraud and identity theft... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, banks worried about me doing something illegal while doing something illegal and unethical themselves :P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I don't think anyone will argue that banks are money grubbing bastards, but to think everything they do is illegal is a bit tin-foil hattish, yeah? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: all the credit cards do stuff like that. Hell, Discover froze mine because I went across town and all my habituals were only ever around home. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think they should tax the internet T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they do T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so now you're comparing paypal to banks but at the same time stating that it isn't one and shouldn't be treated as one? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: check your phone bill T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: garren, i didn't say everything. that was you T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yay for USAC :-) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, paypal is /not/ an ethical company T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Well... Freezing funds isn't illegal. It's standard practice, so I'm not sure what you're refering to then. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: standard practice for banks, maybe T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lending money to people they have no chance of being able to pay back in unethical T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd be fine with it if it was treated as one T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nor is walmart...I'm still gonna buy crap there T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i agree with you on that, nuts T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but please don't call paypal "ethical good guys" T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, that went on, and is still going on, and our beloved government here, after saying how bad it was that it happened, want to bring in a government scheme to do just that all overagain T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because it's just bs T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and people will think it's a great idea because people are, on the whole, pretty damned stupid T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't recall seeing that phrase...they are generally the best way to send money to a vendor, though T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's true T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Guys, could you please take it to debate? You're spamming my log window. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what they were being recommended for T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nah, it's biological. Just like how we can trick our minds with visual illusions to such a degree that it's literally impossible to see anything BUT the illusion, there are tricks involving reasoning that do the same thing. One of those tricks is to appear far smarter and powerful than you really are. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Dokkar. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, best of luck with the global depression T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: stfu foad debate T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: at the risk of stoking two separate flames, +1 T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even if the recipient brings to bear their fine critical thinking skills, if you are able to sell that point well enough the recipient will actually reach the logical conclusion that you are right or know more than they do. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keep it down, cizra, you're spamming me :P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Did they remove the ability to sort who results? I can't find any reference to it in any help files and I've forgotten the syntax that it used to be... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help swho T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Ahh! There is is. Thanks. :D T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I find it interesting that, despite the asset freezing a year ago for each of them, both diaspora and minecraft accept paypal for purchases/donations to this day...apparently they didn't think paypal were so evil that they should stop doing business with them T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: Hi all just need help with a quest reported trigger T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best to use GMCP for quest stuff T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: heres the input .+ tells you 'As a reward, I am giving you (/d+) quest points and (/d+) gold.' T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: can someone help with how the output should look if I want the message to be Quest conpleted for: T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: completed* T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: any ideas? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the best idea is to not use a trigger T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your client already knows all the quest rewards from GMCP T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: ...thats not exactly helpful at all. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: seriously, you should just do what abelinc says T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is helpful, it's just not the answer you want T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: I am on android thus why I am makeing a trigger... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: abelinc INVENTED android T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: If I was on mush I would just use a regular qreporter script... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc is Al Gore T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Abe's real name was Steve Jobs before he sold it for a hefty profit. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: abe's good, but he's no techno-visionary T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: biggest mistake he ever made. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, I have no vision T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm an implementor T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc is a bat. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Iron Duck Chuft darts forward and *pokes* you in the eyes! OW! You are Blinded! T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want Quest completed for $1 QPs and $2 gold. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: so no actual answers... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: abe would like to tell the story all about how his life got flipped turned upside down T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: wow, soreal is stressy T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't like looking at the docs of his client, either :P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: ...no I am just annoyed by trolls. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: I'm trying to enjoy my coffee but Soreal is stressing me out T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try a fire-based weapon T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: probably acid I think T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aw greg, it's not worth stressing out, leave that to Starling :-) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alixana's Gregor throws back his head and cackles with insane glee! T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and +1 T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: i use this for my quest completed trigger "QUEST: You have almost completed your QUEST!" T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: some impressive triggernometry there T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: it works T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sindain, was there a question in there? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: nah, thinly veiled "my bot 0wns" brag T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: nope, soreal asked a question, guess i missunderstoood. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: By the way, I can answer all your tech-based questions because I used to be in a clan T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sireal was looking for the syntax to use to display the quest rewards captured in the q complete message, not the quest kill message T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err soreal T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (wouldn't the solution have been to wait for a quest?) T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alixana's Gregor eats sireal for breakfast. T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: waiting for a quest doesn't tell you about capture group replacement like http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=triggers does T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gah T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: i don't click any links with goat in them T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll go blind if you point me at links to mobile apps T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't gain information on blowtorch MUD client for android :P T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned satanist T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: men who stare at goat, best movie title ever T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sindain is agreeing with that Exorcist Jerome person again... T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: does anyone know how to turn off the touchpad mouse on an hp pavilion laptop? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: use a hammer? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: There isn't a button to shut it off somewhere on the laptop? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: not this model T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Otherwise go into 'mice' or whatever in windows and see if there is an option there T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: in control panel T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: disable it from device manager, if hp doesn't have an utility for that T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: maybe fn+f7? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or maybe search "yourhpmodel turn off touchpad" T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got a ton of results, but i don't know the model you have. anyway, google is your friend T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, you might want to consult this flowchart: http://xkcd.com/627/ T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: wow - I never realized just how indepth Bast's statdb is T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, if I have an old wireless card, is the problem I'm having with my company's wireless due it probably not supporting WPA and/or WPA2? T3/r5/2011-11-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: This card is from the WEP days before that standard was deprecated. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharingan Tech: i got mushclient... how do i make stuff display? like the map and the HP/MP bar? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: type look/map T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: how do i fix/prevent this using Bast's plugins, without restrating mushclient? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: scroll back and find the error T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://pastebin.com/xehZbEg2 T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you have the latest version of his plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case, reloading the plugin should fix it temporarily T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: yea, newest version T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: anybody figure out a way to highlight text going into Aard MUSH Comm Log? like I would like to highlight lines where my clanmates level, etc. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I imagine you'd have to edit the comm plugin T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: what i thought, too. intimidating. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: any1 knows any OSR that works with aard? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia peers around herself intently. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alixana's Gregor tosses Leg and an Armenia up in the air, she loves it! T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: No Privi Leges peers around himself intently. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alixana's Gregor tosses No Privi Leges up in the air, he loves it! T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Is anyone giving classes on writing your own plugins O.o T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: send a tell to abelinc T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Is there any way I can force the font to be smaller in mush >.> like... 6 or 7 T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Settings -> Output T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (under Appearance) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia slams her head on her desk in frustration. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: it stays at size 8... I want it even smaller T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: ust type in a lower number T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: yeah, even if I type 6 in there, it stays the same size T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feiros Tech: strange..worked for me T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I even tried 1 O.o T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: if your font isn't getting smaller, get a font with more sizes on it. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: is there any way to flag non-passable doors in aardmapper? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: just use cexits for those T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: like, cexit od;d ? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: like mapper cexit op e;e T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: 2 semi colon's are needed not 1, T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: like mapper cexit op e; T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: sry for double..you need 2 ; T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: o p; T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: thank you T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: o e;;e T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: oe;;;e!!! T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veladros Tech: what midssh version will work for blackberry T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Alright, having connection issues. Windows 7. I can connect to my school's network, but I can't actually browse the web. It loads the title of the pages and the little icon in the url bar, but the rest times out. Connects fine at home, and others can connect fine here. Anyone have any ideas? Tried flushing dns. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Got Root? PhraeaXes Tech: Daft question perhaps, but does anyone know how I could transfer an album I've copied onto my Xbox, onto my PC, since my PC refuses to acknowledge the CD whenever I stick it in? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hdd transfer cable T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: now that my mxit is cut off, how can I access aard? (no pc) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: cold turkey! T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: I'm currently playing through the HTTP-to-telnet gateway at mosha.net T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Has anybody been in my plight before? Trying to access Aard from university? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: try telnet client T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, I use SSH forwarding for that. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: There are no open ports which allow telnet T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: OK trurien, but what port on localhost do you forward through? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what ports are open on your network? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: An 'unblockable' port... something they won't bother to check, like 3917, maybe. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That's if they have a list of ports they block, rather than a whitelist of allowed ports. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: The problem is that there are no open ports. netcat returns none T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you're not using netcat correctly T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Exactly. It's a whitelist, and only 3128 is whitelisted T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you can browse the web then there are open ports T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: And that's an HTTP proxy T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 443 and 80 should be open. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Like I said, 3128 is open. It's an HTTP proxy which only accepts HTTP requests T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: OK, so I can forward through 443 or 80? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how do you get email? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: I'm sorry, I'm just learning this stuff right now T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: I don't know, I think everything's done through the proxy T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: There should be open ports, but I don't know if there are already services using them. Not too familiar with forwarding, I know what works for me and that's about it.. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Allright, well thanks anyways. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: installed Bast's campaign miniwindow plugin but it doesnt show up. also tabbar. nothing. is there some trick to it? I watched some Ytube videos and seems i did all correctly T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: move your chat window T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: comm. log? nothing beneath T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you on a cp? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: yep T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you load miniwin_events or miniwin_cp? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: type "cp check" T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: cp T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mcp cpwin show then mcp cpwin front T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, looks like Wexley isn't back. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: cp check shows only the as line, so the plugin works but window isnt here T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: what do you mean mcp cpin whos? umm. im slow.. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: a question what type of phones will work with aard T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: There's a thread on general about it T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: what type T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: board general, note read 19685 T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: i thanks T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: whats the site to download a mud client for ur phone? via java system base system T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I used to use midpSSH, I think that does telnet as well. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: where do i get this midpssh client? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: whats the site again? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: tech -h T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: in mush>is there a plugin that sends commands to miniwindow instead output? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uh, no T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm working on something like that, though T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he's also working on making it directx11 compatible T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: wow.. pixels and shaders and motion blurs and voxels T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's right T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Nick actually did start a project to get OpenGL into mushclient. I told him I thought it was silly. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What for+ T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why not? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: heh. in future the mud looks like wow :) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: egh, I prefer text :P T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you wouldn't want that T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I hope not. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: no. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at the most, i'd want some nice animated background pictures one for each area T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for atmos T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Keeps the user base, at some level, literate :P T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some text displays may be more visually informative with openGL (non-VI) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how? Text is text. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mud was a darn good for my english. teacher asked for words that describes damage.. hahaaa T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no it's not T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some text displays are harder to read than others -- with openGL, some techniques may be used to assist the text to be read faster T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: hm. there was this artist that made all the fonts and traffic signs. James May iterviewed her. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: makes sense to experiment with fonts. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mush-advice please. i want to set a trigger to log the mud. "trigger 1" starts the logging "trigger 2" stops. how can it be done? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Make a "trigger 3" that matches on every line, and sends to log T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: have trigger 1 turn it on, trigger 2 turn it off T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: it sounds simple :) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: is (.n) used to express a number in mush regexp? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \d is a digit T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: k, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingdang Tech: hi everyone 8) Q> How do i clean up the existing map of one particular area? (i.e. i wanted to remap the area as i walk around in that particular area again) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming you're using mush, check out mapper help :) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingdang Tech: i referred ot it and im worried about about the purge zone options T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, how else do you plan on doing it? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingdang Tech: that is why i seek everyones advice T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the purgezone command does exactly what you asked for... T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingdang Tech: i see.. *hee* T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dingdang Tech: thanx all for the advicec ... cheers 8) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: anyone know how to calculate internet data costs? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: minutes spent times cost per minute = internet data costs. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: not really T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: so how long can 1.2gb last? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: matters what you do T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: depends on what you do with it T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: just aarding. . . T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: very long indeed T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: more then 2 months? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: justwa T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: probably over 2 years :P T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: 2 years! ! T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, i'm currently using about 40 bytes per second, just idling mind you... T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: do the math if you want, i don't feel like it :P T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: 144000kb per hour? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: yeah, at that rate it would take just under a year to hit 1.2gb T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: 3.5 mb a day T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: who wants to idle for just under a year, though? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: not the point :P T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: but i bet it's much higher if you're killing mobs T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it'll still take months to hit 1.2 gb T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: bye mxit. . And hello pc:) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go The last Kayda!!! Ixle cheers him on. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: wich reminds me. . .i should realy get off my lazy butt and go buy the pc. . . No more sneakers though:) T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you were paying more than $40 for sneakers, you were paying far too much. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and unlike Nelly, scuffing them up won't ruin your night. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The last Kayda Tech: hehe. . i know i get 1.2gb every 2 months so it will last. . .right? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The last Kayda nods quietly to himself. What a wacko. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: how should one go about mastery? T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: carefully. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: augh, mischan T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: methodically, persistently, and patiently. Practice makes perfect, after all. T3/r5/2011-11-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: on the other hand, practice makes haste and haste makes waste. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Pohhui Tech: anyone knows how can i stop mapper jumping to random zones when it finds room name that already exists in different zone when mapping with zmud mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: switch to aardmush? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Has anyone tried the Aard MUSHclient under Wine? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: yes, it works T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Mileage varies, as always with Linux and Wine, but there have been favourable reports. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Okay, thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I prefer tintin++. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Haven't been able to find the configuration for GNOME notification popups in Debian Squeeze. Any idea where they might be? The balloons are too big. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Should triggers work normally in the Aard MUSHclient? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: They work like mushclient triggers. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: I'm vi and had to scan a take home test, and all of the pages came out as JPG's. Anybody know how to get them into a type of word or text format? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: google for a free ocr program - fair warning, the free ones suck T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Or you could send me a copy and I'll translate it for you :) T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how long is the test? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: 7 pages. About 60 questions I believe. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think Evernote has pretty good free OCR detection T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how can I display statistics in bast plugin? like average qp per quest, qp per campaign ? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: load the miniwin_stats plugin, it will have tabs for the different info T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dunno.. but ask again outside of double hour T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: already answered.. ignore me T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks, it seems stats windows sometimes lose tabs - i mean there is only stats tab, no levels, quests, cps, kills tabs - but all has reappeared after restarting mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: when tintin had # for client commands, whats Mush's? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There's no accepted standard T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: there are no commandline client commands in mushclient, but you can set a custom prefix to prefix script test, which can contain commands T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: im very newbie.. say, i want a macro to do "scan" target. what to put in the send window? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: scan %1 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (where %1 stands for a * in your trigger match) T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i have variable "target" set T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Lua variable? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or MUSHclient variable? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mush T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Then it should be.. hmm, lemme check T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mush it is..heh T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: arget T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: shouldn't it be "@target" T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: Execute("scan"..GetVariable("target")) sould work T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: @target T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: haha. i tried it T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: scan @target would be easier (= T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: also, i think the expand variables box should be checked T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mhmh. ok. i wanted to do it with macro. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: must .. read.. manuals... T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: avoid mush's macro's and use aliases T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: put it in an alias and put the aliasname in the macro T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: yep. thanks. i'll do that then :) T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: in mush. how can i set up a trigger that contains a variable - mush variable target="weasel" T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: how do you plan on setting that variable? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: the variable is nicely working. t * makes sends the * to variable - target T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: help didnt help as usual :) T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so what do you want this trigger to do with the variable.. or do you mean an alais isntead? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: oh. half of the sentence went to gossip for some reason.. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: my question that is T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: in mush. how can i set up a trigger that contains a variable - mush variable target="weasel".mud line is> "that darn weasel is here". so the trigger line could be smthing like that> * target * . T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what was the full question? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: look in help - functions list for AddTrigger T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to make a dynamic trigger T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or make a generic trigger and then use code to evaluate the text T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: ok, i trie T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: try T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doober Tech: What's the easiest way to time the execution of a C program? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: where do i get mud client for aard? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: the blackberry one T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/index.htm T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Midpssh.org for that one, I dunno the bbssh site though T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: oh, sorry T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Probably bbssh.org =P T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/android-mud.htm T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: He asked for a blackberry o_O T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: riddim is trying to annoy me T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: For the blackberry, midpssh and bbssh are both popular ones. I use midpssh T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: You can just go to midpssh.org on your phone and download it directly to the phone T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Only thing that I didn't quite catch at first with midpssh, you have to go into the options and choose the "input" option to type correctly. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: i dont have to move files and rubbish? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: you know aardwolf is meant to be played on a computer, right? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I didn't have to, just download straight to the phone, type in the connection info and you're good to go T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: ok im om midpssh now where to go? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: The download section? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ...click download? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: which version now? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: the one you want T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is this blackberry? you can get bbssh, a port of midp specifically for the blackberry if you want. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: No clue, probably the latest one T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: You can read the differences T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: whish is best that my phone can support? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: yes blackberry T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I would just choose "Latest Stable Release" with the full build T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: so its bbssh.org T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: No clue what any of the others do T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: bbssh and midpssh are both difference programs T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: which is better? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Like I said, I've only used midpssh. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Why not try them both and decide? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: You'd probably have to try both and decide which you like better T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: il try midpssh T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: MIDP. 2.0? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: and which one under midp. 2.0 theres two full versions T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: downloading BBSSH:D T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: notice: java.nio.channelsunresolvedAdrresexception. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: hmm T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: help please? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: You should've just downloaded midpssh instead of bbssh =P T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: yeah but you didnt want to help me T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I was helping you. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: [22 Nov 22:43:02] Inicus Tech: I would just choose "Latest Stable Release" with the full build T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Then you decided to go download bbssh T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: we only help people who at least try to put in a minimal effort at helping themselves T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: im trying;!!! T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: i believe the prob ismy host and connection name T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: what did you put in? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: but i dont know what to fill in there T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: my only experience is bbssh on a torch 9800. I've never run into that error, though. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: my name T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanali Celanil buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: what must i put there? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: aardwolf's ip :P T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: "Help ip" or "help connect" will show you the information. It's aardmud.org:23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i assume bbssh has a help system? you might want to go read that... T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: How will reading the help system for bbssh help him find the ip/port for Aardwolf? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it'll tell him that he needs to put the ip/port for aardwolf there, not his name T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: uhm what do i put in host T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: aardmud.org T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: aardmud.org T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: thank you so much guys T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: When it asks for the port, you have to put in 23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: whats apn? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I use aarwolf.org and port 4000, which should work as well. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: bis-b as connection when i connect says notice:could not connect to aarmud.org T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it's aardmud.org.... T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: with a .:22 at the end T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: this is exactly what i meant about not trying to help yourself... T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: and that's because you don't connect on port 22, you connect on port 23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: i mean aardmud T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: inicus said that twice T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: omg it put port 22 itself! T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so change it T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: same thing as just now excep .:23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any tintin users online and good with the tintin mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: holy shit! T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: lame T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Solarpower Inicus raises an eyebrow at Tinybolt's weird actions. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: im getting eritated T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: i tried clicking reconnect T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It needs to be aardmud.org:23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Not aardmud.org.:23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: it is T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: Tinybolt, try 66.228.127.34 as host, port 23, connection type telnet T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: doesent work:e T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: whoever helps me to get this working gets a qreset and a tp T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: it worked with my cell T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: it keeps bringin up he port no. at the end.:23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Is your port number .:23 or :23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: except this time its not .:23 its .23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tinybolt 23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that's the problem...it needs to be :, not . T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: whats my host and connection name ment to be again?the telnet one doesent work T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: My info for midpssh is Host: 66.228.127.34:23 T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: are you sure you don't want to just try midpssh? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Typer: Telnet T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Connection type: Default T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: bbssh looks really bad... T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: If you see any of those similar things, just do that T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: telnet does work, aard doestnt support ssh connection type T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: bbssh is not the problem. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: judging by the quality of their website, anyway T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gunsnroses nods. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you can try aardwolf.org with port 4000. that works fine for me. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: and whats your host tyebald? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: for the host, type exactly this, without the quotes: "aardmud.org:23" T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: when I use my phone (a torch 9800, to recap), I enter 'aardwolf.org' for the host and '4000' for the port. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: for the most part, mudding from a phone drives me nuts, so I don't use it often. but I just tried it a moment ago, and it still works. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: disconnected.. in:0 bytes out: 0 bytes total: 34bytes... heh T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's the new mobile math T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: screw it then i dont give anymore T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Sorry, it's a little difficult to help you without actually being with you to help input it into the phone. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that's the spirit. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: We can't tell if it's an issue with your phone, the program, or if you're just inputting something incorrectly T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Best advice: Get a computer T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: wel ive tried what everyone has suggested thats 4 different things none worked T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Getting a computer will work. Trust me, try it. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Have you tried downloading midpssh instead of bbssh? =P T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: and when i set host name aardmud.org:23 and save and go back in to edit its now aardmud.or T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i might be able to help more if bbssh had any documentation T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: as i said earlier, judging by the quality of their website, bbssh doesn't look like a very good program... T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: myrk, there's nothing wrong with bbssh. it works great. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: probably, if you know how to use it T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: in fact, it had the single best explanation I've seen of any app, for which permissions it needed to have and why. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you don't, there's not much you can do about it T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it's ridiculously simple to use. I've never needed to reference any documentation. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but how am i supposed to help him debug when their documentation page on the website just says: "(This section being reconstructed after our recent data/site loss)" ? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and then look at their blog, and find out that that data loss was 10 months ago? T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'll admit the web site leaves a lot to be desired. the app, on the other hand, seems pretty rock-solid. T3/r5/2011-11-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: put in a valid host and port, and you're done. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Anybody know a quick way to size down the chat miniwindow if it's currently wider than the screen? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: ohk i downloaded midpssh but it requires me to set an alias.. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: dont know what to fill in there T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I'll be hopping a plane with inflight wifi in a couple hours... is there any easy way to import my aard map/cexit DB to a fresh aardmush installation? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Copy the whole damn folder T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: help please people T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: copy aardwolf.db T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Hmm, alright. It isn't path dependent? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I tried that earlier and it screwed up and wouldn't load plugins and whatnot T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nope - glory of aardMUSH (sound files are hard copy though, so you will need to update any sound triggers T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Alright, i'll have plenty of time to tinker with it :P T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: hello? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VanHelsing ? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See "upgrading the client". Can basically follow the same instructions as there T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: and hopefully I will be reporting back from 37k in the air :P T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The info you need to connect is in 'help ip', Tinybolt. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: thank you Leinei T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have a pc with windows 7 installation. I want to install freeBSD on a separate HD and dualboot between them. Where can I find some info about this. I have found info for installing win7 with bsd already installed but I want it the other way around T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Just go ahead and install FreeBSD (= The only tricky point is when T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: As far as I know from Grub, it's usually better to install Windows first and then the other on it. Not sure if BSD uses the same bootloader though. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: you're choosing where to install boot loader T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No matter which bootloader you use, it's always better to install Windwoes first! T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Why don't you just install BSD? I'm sure that the process will include a step to detect other OSes. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You'll have to install the bootloader somewhere where your BIOS thinks of looking. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Cizra: not if you use a windows bootloader :P T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: OK tnx I'll just start installing bsd then. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hey Ayasinda T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: wait T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're OK with either having to choose which drive to boot from at each boot, or T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: OK Cizra T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ... if you're OK with installing the bootloader manually afterwards, T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'd suggest you first install FreeBSD and the bootloader on the SECOND drive only, T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: thus avoid hosing your Windwoes. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'm ok having to choose which drive to boot from each boot T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Once it runs (you'll have to tell BIOS to boot there!), T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: mushclient question after adding miniwin plugins, how do i turn that window on? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A large blue sweatdrop appears on Mendaloth's forehead. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: you'll just install the bootloader on the main drive and be happy. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: make sure hte mini win tab win plugin is installed. You can toggle the windows with that. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: the* T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: confused now. U suggest installing bsd first and then Win 7? or just install bsd on second drive and boot leader on main? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: loader T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why are you bothering with BSD at all if this is so confusiung? I don't meant this in a mean way, but why not just try a live CD or something before bothering with boot loaders? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Just install BSD, Ayasinda. During the install process, Windows should be detected. Let me try the install process myself.. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Riddim. Want to learn more about bsd and only have 1 pc. Didn't know a live cd existed. Maybe that will be a better solution to experiment with indeed. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and i dont think was mean. I just want to learn that cant be bad T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: To learn is always good, especially when dealing with cool things like FreeBSD. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how use trigger then commmand in mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how use trigger ,i use mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'd start here http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/triggers.htm be sure to click on the "FUn with Triggers Link." Start with simple test triggers and then work your way up. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are Mushclient Hyperlinks VI friendly at all? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: JunkInThe Torunkes sneaks around unnoticed vetoing random people! Run, you may be next! T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they are mostly VI friendly T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but avoid foreground text that is opposite to background text exactly T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: eg never use white on black.. as some reasders are configered to identify this as highlighted text.. adn will read it endlessly as it scrolls T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: apart from that i've had no complaints about them T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So using them in a plugin as the only easy way to interact with the plugin is not going to make it so VI players can't use the plugin T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i usually make my hyperlinks call a commadn tat can be manually entered T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if your input is click only, then that's not VI friendly T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that is what I am going to do, but wasn't going to put that in the helpfile since it will make the helpfile much longer - oh well looks like I have no choice. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have found, as annoying as it is.. documenting every keyboard command will stop people askign you questions about if they can do this or that.. saves time in the end T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you don't want to use an external library set for doco .. you could look to see how my spellup plugin does documention.. i think it works quite well T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I usually just go the manual help file route. Where I type it out T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: jsut remmber use snow on black.. not white on black for links T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not going to color the links - just use whatever default Mushclient has set. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: out of interest.. what are you writing? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Testing testing >.> T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: roger that Huston T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Okay. So... I'm looking for a plugin that will report when I get a quest, what I get on the quest and all that jazz... taking into account the daily blessing stuff too... or... maybe someone can edit the one i'm currently using.. I'm not qualified to make adjustments :( T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have a couple that work out of the box T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: mush client? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Oh, yeah, mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sindain Tech: finger bast and goto the link T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mine are more about what your quest is and getting there..rather than stats and reporting T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Is that one that reports it to gtell? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Like.. the one I have now sends to gtell that I leveled and I got this and that trains and whatnot.. and my quest points and what bonus stuff i got and how long it took for me to do it.. i think it works off the bast plugin and sends it to gtel T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone know how I might decode and ? I assume these are some kind of control character in Unicode... T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bullet Tech: someone here working with Moodle? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bullet Tech: (or LeMill for that matter) T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: anyone on tech? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: im creating a similar mud that is currently in its infancy and we are about to start implementing a scripting language T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: like aardwolf it was once a rom codebase that has since been highly coustomized (tho the areas have not yet) T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good luck :) T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: we have added many features and many more to come but im very interested in the lua implementation T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: is aardwolf open source? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Doubt it. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nope T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: No. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not believe so. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: well it still has diku credits T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: my mud is a heavily modified rom to T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient is. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: aardwolf is rom based and that code is GNU what license is aardwolf if not gnu? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Also, advertising other muds is illegal, see 'help rules' item 11. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Aardwolf is not ROM based. And ROM isn't GNU. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: wrong aardwolf was rom based in v2 T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Indeed. Welcome to v3. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: i didnt see anybody advertising T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Aardwolf isn't "highly customized." It was completely re-written from the ground up. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, I did. Get new glasses. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: i see that now T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: rewrite in 2007 T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: and verified as such by at least one party from the original rom code base. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: what is the current license, i dont want to steal your code, just want to see how your hooks are implimented T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current license is not licensed T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: oh poooh well you have alot of info on the site and i must say that im impressed with the scripting T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, it's lisenced as "only for lasher" T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: -r 7 T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: where starling? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: i did not mean to sound like a grump before but im trying to get away from the "school/academy" style of newbie introduction T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, it works for quite a few. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: looking to create a fluid quest style intro where players are taught commands and features as they play T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically the verification was a member of the diku code team...rom is mostly russ taylor T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: How would you propose an introduction then, maybe with context-based whispers? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, yeah. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: like zelda T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So you get dumped into the world, with the text just streaming by, and find out stuff only as you need it? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The problem with that is that if it can be skipped, people will skip it (and complain later when they lack the knowledge it contains). And if it can't be skipped, people will get sick of following a script and leave. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: no you get placed gently into a private world that gets less private as your newb quest continues T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sounds like a good idea. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: you mother teaches you then small class elem school then on to the big show of high school T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: thats the idea it will help i think with clan creation and internal relationships as well T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: i would never want to impose, but once im up and running i would love for some experienced people to come give a look or help out T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ah, there is the advertising. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: no not at all. i advertise in topmudsites no need to her e T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: get your mud onto topmudsites and themudconnector... T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kardon snickers softly. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: im more interested in your scripting T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There are better place to recruit help than other people's games. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: lpc has good scripting T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien nods. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: .h 20 T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: lpc, have not looked into that, my coder was thinking of using python or lua T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: bleh.. python T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: python is quite useful as scripting language T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: i like lua myself it seems more flexible T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: but my irc/mud connect bot is python T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lpc is a mud codebase which is script-oriented... T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but I find lpc was quite easy to learn, very similar to c T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: oh well im kinda set on giving Diku a soul T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: any sugestions as i move forward, you guys seem to have your S together here T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also Diku comparing to lpc muds is rather very limited T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: keeper come to my mud and help build/code lol T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: c is c its easy to change :) T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: kardon and what mud is that T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c is c, but the core of how a mud operates isn't easy to change... T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: by the time we are done, alot will be different and iyt will not be recognizable T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Good luck then. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't be recognizable as a diku, but you're dead set that it needs to be ;-) T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, it seems to me that you should not implement levelling style mud like Aardwolf T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: thanks, i will be returning often, and as far as diku goes, kinda yes T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: agreed.. not a fan of it T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to a mud codebase which has essentially the MUD itself alredy written as the scripting language T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: In the history of MUD how do emlen and diku relate? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: Hallway in the Academy needs extra description added for 'paintings' T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's not really a tech channel topic T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: where does that go? : T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: write a note on ideas perhaps? or on question channel T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keeperx Tech: ty T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Anyone know of a program that can convert video files? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Any video converter :D T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: handbrake T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Okay, I'll reword that. Anyone recommend a particular video converter? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: handbrake T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How do you guys handle the possiblity of nil arrays for nested arrays such as filter_settings['displaysettings'][value]. Do you check for nil anytime you access it? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: IN mushclient/lua. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: What does Handbrake cost? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's all just a google search away T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but if you insist, it's free T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm trying to understand some jQuery code... I see var A=A||new Object, doesn't that do exactly the same as var A=new Object? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: creates a new object only if A doesn't exist T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or isn't defined T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: That was what I was wondering about... so you can use var X if X is already defined? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can do all kinds of grotty things with javascript, yes T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, seen it. 'A' happens to have been passed in as an argument, several lines up T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Explains some things. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: is there a way I can get the alias editor in Mushclient to open with regex already and/or the send to script selected? Making a ton of grouped aliases.... T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean grouped aliases? Is it possible you can do it all through one alias? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: you mean set defaults? Probably not (= Except that MUSHclient is open-source, so you can modify it. At least I believe it's open-source. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make the aliases in a text editor, or make one in MUSH, save it, click "copy" in the alias list, paste it into text editor, change the stuff to the next alias, copy, paste it into the MUSHclient aliases window T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're all just XML T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: Ah, there we go. Thanks Abe! :) T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know how to change the font on a specific window in cmud, i thought it would be under pref>styles but thats only for the main output T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nevermind i was under the wrong module T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you can also make a user #STYLE if you wanted to do something specific instead of everything in the window. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in SQL, can you do a select query where you compare two fields against each other? I'm specifically looking to limit the results to rows that have two different fields (ObjID and RefNum) with an identical value of unknown value. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm getting an error in Bast Spellups plugin after my computer unexpectedly restarted. When I try to reload miniwin_spellup it says "[string "Plugin"]:811: attempt to index local 'v' (a nil value) the line it says is the error "if not v.noprac and not v.nolearn then" T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Any ideas on what I can do? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Reinstall bast_spellup plugin worked :) T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i recently had some "fun" with target triggers. the simplest thing and 5 hours wasted. turned out the solution was even simpler than imagined.. i was so angry. and the computer doesn't care when you yell at it. that's the worst thing of them all. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yelling might not work, but kicking??? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: laptop has this bendy screen. it takes hits well. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does Duckbat still have his key db available, or is there another one somewhere? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Duckbat's key db is no long. It is just inside his db instead. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there another !passdoor keys only db online anywhere? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rolst Tech: anyone know about modding a xbox 360 i am thinking of getting mine done T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. Jilted Tech: so anyone know much about video cards and drivers? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phelanwolf Tech: you take the driver and smash the video card with it? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phelanwolf Tech: I used to know a half-decent amount but I stopped paying attention about 5 years ago T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they are like mini mobos now. When you wanna upgrade, you just pop in a new chip instead of a whole new card. T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. Jilted Tech: that's a no I take it, then T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: might wanna just ask the real question T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. Jilted Tech: figured i'd seif anyone was around who knew anything about it. don't usually have this channel on T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. Jilted Tech: anyway, will updating the driver for my ATI radeon x700 video card resolve the error I get when trying to start skyrim which reads "Failed to initialize renderer. ShaderModel3 required but not supported by your video card." T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. Jilted Tech: ? T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: no, you need a new card T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phelanwolf Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. Jilted Tech: as a side question, why is this driver installer taking so long? progress bar hasn't moved in like 10 mins T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: tried checking the map from the wiki? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: miss T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does anyone have a !passdoor key database/spreadsheet they would share? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Has anyone tried ninja ide with python? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: i don't know if this is possible.. but can someone explaine the mapper funtion to me? mapper help just got me all messed up T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: any one in particular or all of them? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A macabre Sonet Tech: all of them :/ T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: no, i don't think i'll be doing that T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: read mapper help again T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia mutters something quietly to herself. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: What am I doing wrong if a trigger isn't sending to a variable? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: be more specific T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check your spelling T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try: SetVariable ("variable_name", "desired_value") T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: change the "send to" field to script and the sequence to 12 for that to work T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No reason to change the sequence, that's just the priority setting. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Yay! Thats better T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: ah, i see. didn't know that. someone told me to do it, so i've been doing it T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I'm so underqualified for this stuff >.> T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: When viewing a plugin in XML format, you'll see that send_to=12, which is the same as doing send to script in the gui version T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: IIRC default sequence number is 100, so doing sequence 12 you'll actually prioritize your triggers over other plugins that use which may have fall-through settings. So i actually wouldn't recommend it unless you give them fall-through settings. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Ag god.. if I knew that I wouldn't have been wasting all morning trying to figure this out >.> T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: How do I calculate the hit % of solidify when I'm using enchanter's focus, for the sake of this exercise let's say normal hit % is 50. But this changes with enchanter's focus because 80% of misses will be redeemed. Anyone knows the answer? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fractions of 10 make it look a lot simpler - 5/10 are hits - 8/10 of the rest are cancelled - thus 5/10 hit, then 4/10 cancel - 1/10 is a doozy T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yes but it doesn't work like that because when the miss is redeemed you have to take the hit chance again. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think 50% is overly optimistic, however, stats allowing T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: So it becomes infinite. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You then end up with an approach-to-constant formulae, which my tired brain is rebelling against atm T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: formula* T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I'd really like to know, I'm writing something about the results of my enchants, would be interesting to find out the actual chances then I can write calculations on what is the % of getting max enchanted item etc. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: And 50% isn't optimistic. :) T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mebbe for 600/600/600 :- T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Assuming 50% then, it works out to ~80% good hits T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is long hand, though, haven't broken it down to a formula T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: max enchanted items where all three solidify, resonate and illuminate fall, is more like 2 percent with 600/600/600 luck wis int then like 50percent T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Hmm I'd like the formula because I want to post it where I'm writing. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, to long hand it you break the 100% into three parts -> good hit, bad hit, and redo T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: so it goes 50/10/40 - you then take the 40 and do it again T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: well the formula is not open, so you have to keep track of about 50,000 trials and see, I think. the moons figure in it too T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i'd like to know the effects of the moons really T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: And again and again? Ok I got it. If I do this about a million times I get a pretty accurate result right? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the 40 then becomes 20/4/16 - and you add these good/bad to the first set, and get 70/14/16 T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: more than accurate T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Oh. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not just count fails and 1-6 hits separately and then calculate percentages? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Exorcist Jerome Tech: I did enchant thousands of items with 600/600/600 luck wis int, but as pclass cleric though. I think maybe 1 in 5 items gets the 6 damroll. maybe 1 in 4 4wis or 4 luck T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: doesn't enchanters focus abort the spell rather than recast it automatically? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I don't check effects of moons I just cast enchants many times and see those results. It would take too long to get the ffects of moons because moons is up so seldom. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the next step breaks down the 16, and you get 8/1.6/6.4, which into the main good/bad becomes 78/15.6/6.4, which you will see still adds up to the original 100% T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Keep breaking the 3rd value into the 1st and second, and you end up with approx 80/20 split between the two (little under 80) T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ok I'll do this a million times to get an accurate result. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I am quite sure there is a formula to simplify this, but it is a good 5 years since I took maths...kinda bad for an it major, I've been delaying it :-P T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: So.. I let my triggers send everything to aliases.. now how do I make those aliases report back on gtell >.> T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: No, you have been a great help this is exactly what I wanted to know. :) Thanks. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: programmer me would probably write a quick script to do this for me :-P Recursion for the wi-stack overflow error T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: change the trigger portion to reflect on gtells directly too? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah I'll write a script to calculate it. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In the 'send' portion, add another line 'gtell ' T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: I want it to take all the imformation from the aliases and send it in one line on gtell >.> T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are you using the gui aliases, or scripting? Only way to do what you're asking is to overload all your aliases with send to vars, and then have an alias to send the contents of those vars to gtell T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (unless you're scripting, which is a whole different ballpark) T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yes but if I do these calculations 100,000 times the miss chance becomes like 0.000000x% ? :o that's not right. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: no, think of it the other way, the times of it failing goes up as well T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah but how do I calculate it then? :P T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: firstly i have to ask, does enchanters focus abort the spell or autocasts it? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Abort. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Basically you are back where you started. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: then all you need to do is to come with the percentages of a bad enchant, and of abort T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I already have those. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: without it T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: there's a proper formula for it give me a sec to search T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I have % of hitting, % of missing completely, and % of going back to beginning, but now if I want to calculate the % of spell hitting AFTER failing as well what do I do. :( T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: hi, can someone tell me how to use variables in command prompt for mush? like if i want to set a portal as tempvar and i want to equip it T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: like cmud was wear @tempvar T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: How do I make something add up in mush.. like for a quest reward, I want to send to gtell that I got 8 + 2 + 10 = (20) qp >.> T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You'll need to use the Script target for that T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: the what T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's a grey area T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mis T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia boggles at the concept. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is there any way to have a trigger turn off keep_evaluating based on an if statement within the trigger? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: if you are using lua, check out EnableTrigger... example- EnableTrigger("triggername", true) you can use false to disable it too T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: what do i set midpssh alias to? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What alias do you mean? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tinybolt: You will need to use the in-game aliases. There are 40 avaliable. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tinybolt: You might be able to use Macros, but I have not tested that part before moving to BBpssh T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: does anyone know what im doing wrong i went on midpssh.org and then i downloaded the second one v 1.7.3 the jar file for my fone and then it sais complete and then it sais open i say yess and it goes into master tiper the gam i got with the fone and i look for it and its nowhere on my fone? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: perhap yor speling misteiks ar cachin up 2 u? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: plzz just help me for once and stop judging me ok yess my spelling is bad i cnt help it:( T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: then why do you assume that you're typing what you're told to type? perhaps the error you're having is the improper spelling of commands T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: whats midpssh alias? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: im trying to download it but it sais complete and i cnt find the file how does that have anything to do with my spelling? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: plzz just tell me what im doing wrong... T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: u on bb magna? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: no? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: samsung wifi T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: what you need help with T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: what do i type for alias in midpssh? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: i download the midpssh file and then it sais complete then i say open and it goes into my tipe master a game i got with the fone and when i look for the file i cn find it its nowhere to be seen? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: look under downloads file thats where it is for blackberry when downloaded.. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: i dnt have a downloaded folder and i dnt have a bb ? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: wich one should work on a samsung? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: which version? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: look under games or apps T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: i did its not there... T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: when the download is complete and i say open it goes into a game i got with the fone tipemaster... T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what is tipemaster T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: look in your memory card files T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinybolt Tech: what is alias? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: i lost my memory card a week ago so i dnt have one in my fone... T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: and tipemaster is a game i got with the fone T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: whats the site for the midpssh client? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: midpssh.org for the full site, or xk72.com/wap for download page T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tsk, a mudclient that sounds like a cuss word T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: what should i do by my import? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: guys i need some help here T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there a big difference in amd radeon graphics cards vs nvidia gtx's? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: like a 6850 vs a gtx 560 or so T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google benchmarks T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: and an i7 is way overkill for a gaming pc ? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i5 is the way to go? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i5 is pretty average i think T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but i haven't done gaming for a while so not sure T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: most 'gaming laptops' at least use i7 T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Lim, are you building a pc? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i was but cybergaming is having a custome built sales this weekend with whatever u want, its 200 more than byuilding myself +3 year warranty T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: take a look here: http://s1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/?action=view¤t=Guide.png T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: pretty good guide on latest hardware and can help you decide on specs and such T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: thanks man T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: np :) T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: whats the set up for the session aardwolf in midpssh T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: does somebody know how to recover a damaged hdd? dropped it and now its got a lot of errors reading the files T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: found a few recovery tools, but i really donnt feel like copying each file on its own T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: recuva is decent T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: hm downloading it now, but if i remember right i cannt change the saving location in there T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: how do i setup my midpssh client? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: so what do i do to download the midpssh file for a samsung ?:) T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: because my time is almost over?so i have to act quick? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: can anyone help me i wana know how to download midpssh for samsung? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: midpssh.org T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: yess i know but i did it and i completed the download i chose the second one from the top the jar file .... And it completed and asked if i wana open it i said yess and it opened a game i got with the fone called tipe master T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: take the jar one T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: and i looked for the file couldnt find it anywhere... T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: i did the second one from top T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: so what am i doing wrong? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: try another one try to take the jar one :) ive got midpssh on nokia so it should work on a samsung T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: ????you know? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how do you close mushclient miniwindows? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: where would I go about playing aard on my phone? p.s I got a Nokia X2. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: anyone? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midpssh.org T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at tech -h, swalec, you close MUSHclient miniwindows by either disabling/removing the controlling plugin, or by using a show/hide command in said plugin T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has lots of show/hide options, and the mapper has a show/hide as well T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmmm --how do you know command? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugin's help system should say T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or the wiki of the author T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ok -- ta T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If you have the minitab visible, you can click on the mini-window names to hide them. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: dont have room 4 minitab on netbook T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec typing one hand T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien why? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: other hand busy T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone know anything about these x79 mobos now versus the z68. I thought z68 was kinda top of the line T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: is there any easy way to limit a trigger so i can go off only every ~5secs or does it have to with a timer? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: any way i can tell the mapper in mushclient not to take certain exits? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: right click on the room.. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: then what? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: well if u r using fiendish4s mushclient then u can change a lot there T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: i may need to upgrade. T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyres Tech: can somebody plz help me with a strings in lua? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is 768mb of ram suitable for a basic installation of the newest Ubuntu version (11.10)? T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes#System_Requirements T3/r5/2011-11-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is for 11.04 I think. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: debating on getting a tablet, but don't feel like shelling out 500-600 bucks...any you'd recommend or recommend against? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Putty: Do you need one this year? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: not specifically, no T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: can motherboards take more than 1 kind of memory stick, or is there only ever 1 specific type for each motherboard? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: when setting portal level in mush.. how does that work? i set it at 50 and it still tried to use it T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You're tier 9, maybe that matters? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: oh!! i didnt know it too tier into account T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thanks man :P T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That'll be 3.50 T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What was the command to enable GMCP debugging? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Check the wiki. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can I spoof GMCP messages to test my plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oh. I see. thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Where in Aardwolf is JSON used? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: GMCP? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh, that's JSON? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yes. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien buries his head in helpfiles. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Er.. So... Every time I open Mush, I have to reinstall Basts' tabwin plugin because it appears as a black square... Anyone who can tell me the reason for this? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: haha all month preparing and i fell asleep through the stinking cyberpower sale and all the comps sold out! lol T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leg and an Armenia Tech: Oops... T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leg and an Armenia pats Limunious on his head. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How do you use the "script" target of triggers? I see that it just executes a script function, but where does it take the arguments? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: is there a scipt to capture gq mobs for mush? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, Bast's gq miniwindow T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: real quick anyone know if there is a notable difference between a setup with x59 and tri channel ddr3 for gaming vs a z68 with dual? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thank you :) T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: x58 even T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how switch off map T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: maprun is one T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type maprun T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: For the Mapper, type mapper hide T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i already type maprun,but no T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: maprun ,automap T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is it a bigmap? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: no T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: room map T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am using the GMCP plugin, trying to load co-ords, but am getting failures because there appears to be no data there -- anyone help? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What is the code you are using to load em? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: is 768mb of ram sufficient to run the latest ubuntu version? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depends on what you want to run on it T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: it would be a linux machine for the sake of being a linux machine.. nothing special in mind T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then it is more than sufficient T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: thank you T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kalsch: You might want to google it or search engine it first. It was an easy fine. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: find* T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need a lot of RAM if you want to use KDE/Gnome T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: a lot = ? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Desktop edition 1GiB, Server 128 MiB T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the main difference betwen those editions is Gui / Cli T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, if you prefer simple X Window manager like icewm, you will be fine with 768 MB T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, web browsers can consume a lot of memory T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: k, i've had an old computer in storage for a couple years and was thinking of making it into a linux machine for the hell of it. Its getting junked if it can't handle basic ubuntu:) T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It might be able to handle the netbook edition. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it will work, sometimes swap may be used if you don't have enough RAM T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know the best way to capture and use the information in cmud from %gmcp.group.members? i tried to manipulate it as a string list but that did not work the way i intended =/ T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you have to parse it up because of all the extra doublequotes. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: does %format have a maximum number of arguments it can handle? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: i have the midpssh client now how do i put aardwolf on it like wher do i go and whats the alias name and the host and all that stuff? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: sumone? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: You don't put Aardwolf on it. You connect. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: ok is there a connect option but i have the obsuficatiom oe sumthing version the one at the bottom T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: ???? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: ...I didn't understand your question. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: ok alias - that is a session name, so can be anything you like T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: host is aardmud.org:4000 (although the 4000 can be changed to 4010 or 23) T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: and make sure you change the connection type to telnet T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: if it lists host and port seperately, host is aardmud.org and port is 4000 T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to get 0 to not count all the escape codes that go through it? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: %len T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: OK IF I WANA CREATE MY THING ON THE MIDPSSH what tipe in wher alias stand and host ? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: lrn2spel T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: what do i tipe by the alias and host titels? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: try again T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: TYPE T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: type? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: Magnabam I already answered that, alias is whatever you like, host is aardmud.org:4000, connection type is telnet T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how can I make a script to automatically colour each letter of my channel messages to randomly selected colours? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone ever have problems with blegh going beyond the end tag? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: beyond the end tag? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: did you check further up in the code? possible an unclosed font tag.. font tags are old school though :) T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: first time i used font T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: paste your code here and send me the link.. ill take a look T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: http://pastie.org/ T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: make sure you pick html from the dropdown on the top right T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know why Bast's latest spellup plugin doesn't think I have accelerate practiced? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i have bast's campaign list plugin. anyone else having one mob left out of that list? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: no, but I get the opposite sometimes-- one mob left on the list after finishing the cp T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: hm. any other similar plugins out there? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: winklewinkle has something similar, also with a miniwindow, but i prefer bast's anyway T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: allright T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: does anyone know how to use % with triggers? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In mushclient you escape it with another % I think. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you get * gold. say i got %1 gold T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: ^ T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: so it's get %1 container, get %2 container, use %1... etc? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: %1 is the first variable in the field, %2 the second, etc T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i see, thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: it's not working still T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: wildcard, not variable :P T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: what are you trying to do kaof? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: right, wildcard. my bad T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i'm trying to get a %1 portal from my container, use it, and put it back T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: just get aarmush T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: in response to the message 'you cant recall from this room'? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: not as a response, i'm triggering it myself T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: that would be an alias T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: a trigger is made to fire in response to something T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: it doesn't work in alias or trigger T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it does T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: well i'm doing something wrong T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: here's what i have T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: p %1 T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: so go to aliases, click new, put in say '//' and under that you type, get portalname bag, hit enter, wear portalname,hit enter, enter, hit enter, remove portalname, hit enter, put portalname bagname,hit enter wear holditemname. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: alias: p * T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: oh you got me at the first line T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: first line is what executes the alias. i like // for portal recalling because / is regular recall T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: whats the portal name, and bag name. and what is your hold item? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: it's working now, it was just that first line :P T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk grins evilly. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: oh, well great! T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what's //? is it the same as portal recall? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's something different T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: and remember, you can do aliases on mudside for simple things like that. and that way if mush ever becomes corrupted or you have to reformat its all saved on your pfile T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: Or you could just backup your aliases online. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: or do like me and backup your file on a second hd and if you're really paranoid, email it to yourself T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i only really have 1 alias and 2 triggers T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Setwanted Snewb just runs mush from a thumb drive :P T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what else is good? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: before i got aardgloves, i had a trig to rewear my weaps T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: disarm trigger? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk nods. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: yeah that's one of the 3 i have T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what about custom SWs? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i just use the mapper for that T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: aliases. though mapper on fiendmush or runto covers that T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i have triggers to change my gear when i level. those are handy T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: that's hardcore, gorsk T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I actually created a script for that. :) T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i should, but i didn't know enough to do that when i made it and it's already done so... T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i'm on mushclient, is fiendmush a plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it's a couple of plugins T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: very nice ones, too T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: It's the Aardwolf version of Mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Mapper is very nice-- probably the best thing about the new version since I came back, I've been playing with it a lot T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: wait, what? i have that! T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: the one with the exp bars and stuff T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk nods. T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: and the mapper :) T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i setup custom SWs on it? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Type mapper help T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: It has all the different things you can do with it T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: There's a lot, the command that replaces the hundreds of speedwalks you build yourself is mapper goto though T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i did mapper shops, and there are number codes attached to every shop T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: but runto # doesnt work T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: mapper goto # T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: mapper goto you mean? T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Runto is the version built into the mud T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: very nice, it's working T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i added a new portal with mapper portal recall, how do i use it T3/r5/2011-11-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: does mudlet have a command line mode? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud is there a function that will tell you a number of a zone if you put in a room key? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: anyone know if it's possible to use an alias inside an alias? I keep getting 'unknown command' T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: assuming you're using mush, make it send to execute T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't nest aard aliases, but can nest client aliases T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: ah, nice, thanks Myrkul T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: thanks Abe T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: What is the list of options in protocols GMCP for? I can't seem to toggle them. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: For jQuery, the $.method() just means method is in the base namespace, right? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I believe so. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Like jQuery.method() T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So $.post() is the same as jQuery.post(). T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: It is. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Heh, weird that Tech and question are the same colour for me. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Really hehe T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 'Would it be wise to buy aard eqs at level 100? It is. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is there an alternative to divx player that isn't poo? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: VLC? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: VLC? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: vlc or mplayer T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: oopz T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: I always use VLC. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: GOM player? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will vlc play mkv files without immediate crashing? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: no, if the mkv is corrupt it could crash T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well unless everyone single one of these mkv files is corrupt (which seems unlikely) T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, vlc plays em fine. rock on T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, now need to find 12gb of hdd space so i can rip it to dvd T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know how to remove an exit, not a cexit, from a continent in Fiendish's Mapper? There is a random up exits in vidblain that does not exist and it is messing up my mapper. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: NVM figured it out. I had to unmerge bigmap, edit it, then I could remerge it T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Anyone know how the planesmobs plugin works in Mush? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: plookup T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Ah nice.. Thank you! T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Ok, everytime I level I get the message "milestone 1292 already exists!" What plugin is causing this? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not mine fortunately :) T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie blames it all on WinkleWinkle!! What a LOOOSER!! T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scandalar snickers softly. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: can anyone on this chan answer a question about the winkle plugins? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Winklewinkle is sneaking around. Ask him. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: winkle is not accepting tells T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then ask question, maybe someone will know answer by chance T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: i just downloaded the search and destroy plugin, on this character it always does the auto hunt and gives me a list of rooms to go to, i tried it on a new alt and it wont give me a list of rooms unless i type qw *mobname* T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it depends on character then it is mud side T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: something like tags, config, etc T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just compare those settings, or maybe try reinstall plugin when playing new character T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chillycat Tech: i will do that, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: looking for advice on new laptop - I play aard, music/itunes, webcam, surf net, my son watches lots of youtube things, photos. but thats about it, not too much. no graphic games or anything. Please send any advice. I bought this asus piece of crap about a year ago and its slowly just falling apart. had an asus before this one that was awesome but a friend destroyed it (on accident). Any advice is appreciated. Thanks T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: look at tigerdirect.com or newegg.com. you can get a pre-leased or refurbished laptop for a fraction of the price and some come with a warranty (generally a year or so), you can find one that fits what you need. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: pay at least $1500, anything below that is junk T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I'm using Winkle's spellup script, and it's great, except that when nimble cunning wears off, it sends the command nimble cunning, which of course tries to apply nimble to a guy named cunning... Anyone know how I might edit the plugin to fix it? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: have look on dell's laptops, dell has really good warranty (if you pay for it) like 5 years NBD (next business day) T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is old aard ipc archive in the wayback machine? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: anyone remember the old url? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am running CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval", section) --periodically I get back empty strings -- is this expected? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: section in this case is room.info -- I am trying to get coords of the last room T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: anyone know how i can make my arrow keys on my laptop macros of a direction? like <- = west T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: don't think you can T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: balls. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: just get a keyboard T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's quite simple with my client... T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No Privi Leges Tech: can just get a numpad T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: using mush here, and a laptop, not a usb keyboard T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: im seeing if i can do it without a numpad T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The problem is usually that the arrows keys are more important for other things such as scrolling through command history or moving to a certain character on the input line T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i'm using a laptop, i just plugged a keyboard into it T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: not for me Ixle T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: i dont use arrow keys at all right now with how i type and my window setup T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Snewb, I don't use Mush but try this: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=2628 T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: snewb, you can do alt-arrow keys, using Accelerator("Alt+Up", "n") T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Since Capabelinc(tm) is here I will leave you in his hands. (afk) T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magnabam Tech: whats the host name for midpssh is it aardmud.org 4000 T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That would work, yes. See 'help ip' T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: anyone good with scp? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: secure copy? I use it in some automated scripts, wasn't much of anything to my setup tho T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: i am trying to do a recursive copy T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: i did it but it got inturrupted at the last minute T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: if i start it again, will it overwrite everything copied already? xfered 2G, only have 150 meg to go T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it will overwrite everything copied already T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not a sync tool T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: gotcha... so i could use rsync to finish it off? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rsync is good for that...generally, file copy stuff, even ftp in restartable mode, will copy everything again...restartable mode just impacts that one file that was partial T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: so if i use rsync now, never used before, but i am good at reading documentation (have to be when a *nix) user T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: it will finish it off forf me? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: or must have i started it with rsync T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try using it with -n (--dry-run) first, to see if it's going to try everything T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses mod time, so as long as the scp was done preserving those, it should be OK T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: cool so it will recopy the one that was interrupted T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: it checks the filesizes? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use --size-only to tell it to ignore timestamps and just compare size, which should be best for you now T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: thanks for the help...that should work T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: doh! it overwrote....ohh well :) T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: not really much of a windows user hardly ever enter it but my question is, what is the best MUD client for it? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: MUSHclient & Z/CMud both have their adherents T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: cool cool. i will try them both out and see which I like better T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: MUSH is free, and is the client that the "Aard" client is built on. ZMud has been "replaced" by CMud, and is a pay client, but there is a free trial if memory serves. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Any ideas on what one would do to get an external hard drive working on a windows 7 computer? Has worked fine forever, then suddenly stopped working, but is able to be seen by other computers, but not mine. I go to the properties page in device manager and try and enable it, but it says it cannot be enabled. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midgarsormr Tech: Is it USB? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: tis T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Happened to me before. Fixed itself, dunno how. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midgarsormr Tech: I have issues with USB cables and hooking up my phones to win 7. I just switch the cable every few months and all is well T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i've tried everything ranging from micorosft's fix-it to seagate's driver robot, to manually finding the driver, uninstalling, and reinstalling T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bamboo Tech: Try installing through Disk Management. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Disk manager doesn't see it T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tried different usb port? T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yup T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And as soon as i plug it in to my room mate's computer, it shows up, but not on mine. T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no clue, i assume you've tested your comp for possible hardware problems T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: the Wierd thing is that the hard drive has two 'drives'. A cd drive for security and locking the hd basically, and a storage drive, teh CD drive shows up but isn't accessible, but the storage just doesn't exist as far as the computer is concerned T3/r5/2011-11-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Well, it's accessible but i get the 'encountered an unexpected error and is shutting down' error. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: is there a way to use the #QUERY command with gmcp information? trying to run a query on a mob database for my quest mob T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: #QUERY "((&Mob Name=%gmcp.comm.quest.targ) && (&Area=%gmcp.comm.quest.area))" All ...any idea why this isn't working in cMUD? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: who do i use bast's planesmobs plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: how* T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: plookup find T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I aliased that to 'pfind *' - makes for a quick planes trip T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thank you :) T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: looking for someone who can give me a hand with the database in cMUD...10 mil gold for your time, pst T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what's the problem? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: can't seem to get and find or query commands to work correctly...tried multiple ways of doing it, but none are returning anything at all T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and have you considered switching to an external sqlite database? that'll probably solve all your probems... T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And increase portability too. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: I have not considered switching, but the issue comes down to am I able to EASILY program in and query and then execute a command in one of the columns T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: I'm honestly only using it and updating it here, while I play, so having the portability is not something that I can see myself benefitting from T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Yeah, and SQL is at least a standard. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Plus SQLite databases are files, so you can back them up without messy commands. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so are the cmud databases :P T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: 1 out of 2 ain't bad :P T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so yeah, i recommend you switch to an sqlite database, but if you really want to stick with the cmud ones, we'll need more than 'the find and query commands aren't working' to be able to help you fix it... T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: #QUERY "((&MobName=$quest_mob) && (&Area=$quest_area))",All....returns nothing T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: tried it with gmcp information rather than using the variables, still nothing....tried a #SHOW %query with no luck T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why ,All? the command should be a space, i believe? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: tried that too T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and your quest_mob and $quest_area variables aren't being expanded T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you put them in the quotes, they're treated as a literal string... try %concat("((&MobName=",$quest_mob,") && (&Area=",$quest_area,"))") instead T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: so that's expanding them, but still not returning anything T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try #dbreset first T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and the comma before all should be a space T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: #KILLALL T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror! T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't do that btw T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lol T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's considered botting T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: running to a mob and auto killing it is, yes. being at the keyboard and typing an alias that will run you to a mob is not T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: while(questAvail){doFunction(autoquest)} T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: while(jokeFunny){laugh()} T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: while(oldjoke){rolleyes()} T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Error 1293: Argument 'jokeFunny' on line 31 will never equate to true [97 other errors] T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sadly, that's true. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you could write a program that could realize that, you'd be a millionaire. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Sadly, that's true. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acidbburn Tech: how do I use the planes mobs plugin? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone knows what this idiom in Javascript means? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: var a=b || {}; T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a = either b if it's defined, or an empty array if it's not defined T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Could someone who does explain it please? Ah, thanks, Tigernuts. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: tigernut's head is the empty set T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not array, object T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: So either way, a is assigned something. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Precedence is a bit iffy here. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone reccommend a good free program to get divx content onto dvd that actually works? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: had been using dvd flick, but doesn't seem to work properly for mkv files T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have you jfgi? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have i what? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jfgi T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: googling it doesn't do anything for personal reccomendation T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, i don't have personal recommendation, but i know it's a pita T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't know why they keep insisting on new codecs to break your older software T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Pitas are good to eat. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mkv is a container T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it's superior to avi in every way. only "problem" is that it's not proprietary T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the content is usually h264 T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently it is T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dvd flick took an hour to encode the video, and just never finishes the audio, so god knows why T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use handbreak for encoding T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i use mkv almost exclusively T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i want an mkv onto dvd properly in as few a clicks as possible T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, i'll do some research for you. private trackers usually have excellent guides T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, some people use something called ConvertXtoDVD with imgburn T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: Couple of tips on CX2D, use the Lanczos filter. Always use the 'Short Projects' setting on the 'Encoding' tab, don't let it auto select. The only time to not use the 'short' setting is when you have a film longer than 2.5 hours, and even then 'short' will sometimes produce a better looking output with a better bitrate. Yes, I've read the stuff on the VSO forums about this, they're wrong. Set it to custom size of 4570 on 'encoding' tab for DVD5, you'll have to play with DVD9 a bit but basically set it higher until it tends to output an ISO with more sectors than ImgBurn will have listed for the disc, then back it off of that 10 megs at a time until it's just under the sectors limit. Put a check in 'Do not fix audio discontinuities' on the 'Audio' tab, this will save you many headaches. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not free T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: too bad. it's the only recommendation i found for pc T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess you have to pirate that film in some other format T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not a film T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, porn T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. the software has a free trial or whatnot version T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll try converting it with handbrake to a different audio codec and see if that'll unblock dvd flick T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the audio is usually ac3 anyway T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: according to handbrake was some unknown aac T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimafuguro Tech: anyone from ubuntu or mint?? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, i'm from the prudential T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shimafuguro Tech: prudendial? Suse? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is it possible to open a door using the mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 'a' mapper? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I think he's referring the the gmcp mapper T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the mushclient mapper T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mushclient mapper T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people these days seem to be under the misapprehension that mushclient is the only client that exists T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: answer is: yes, i've seen people talk about it before T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can i help? no, don't use it T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no it isn't but it is the default, or "the" client T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, it isn't T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: create a cexit with two semicolons separating the commands swalec T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec shrugs T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: migash I've tried this -- the semi's still get interpreted T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and how do I stop it using the non cexit? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: cexit should have priority T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Migash Tech: but I guess you need someone who knows more bout it than me then :/ Works fine for me T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmm, yes, you are right T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: was sure that I had tried that -- sorry for being dim T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: thanks Migash T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should be more sensitive. plenty of people around who still use zmud/cmud T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we're not sensitive, just want to ensure people are ejumecated T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that was for people who talk about 'the client' T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that and it's difficult to give out the correct answer if you're not specific about the question T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Anyone know how come (after updating yesterday) the Bast spellup gives weird behaviour? I practiced 'warmth', but when I bsp sadd it, it states that I haven't practiced it.. :/ T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reinstall the plugin(spellup and broadcastskillspells) T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Tried it, gives the same.. Weird though , when I remove another spell and re-add it, that works.. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Ok, so every new skill/spell I learn yields the "you have not practiced ..." message when trying to add it to bsp.. :/ T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Ok, rolled back to previous version, all OK now.. Am able to add warmth and grey aura now :) T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look in the options. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper question: if old area was replaced by new one then mapper creates bad map, how can I check whether there are duplicated entries in my database? I mean if I have room number 4747 then how can I check that it belongs only to Tournament Camps and not to any other area ? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather, that all mapped exits come from new area and not old one T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: Hi everyone T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: How can I take an avi file and make the size smaller to be able to put on youtube or facebook etc? Only by compressing to rar right? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: downgrade quality T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: I doubt it can really go much lower. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Split it up into multiple files. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rar should not compress avi T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: And post them individually T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: it is in multiple files already T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: and each file is around 3 -6 gig T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and you cannot do lower quality? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: That would be about 3 hours of video at decent quality, you should be able to drop that a bit T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: No because I am using a game recorder. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: not even 3 hours its like 10-15 min T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you can reconvert avi using other settings T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: Right now I am compressing 1 file and importing the rest to movie maker to try and merge them then recrompress the whole lot. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well movie maker doesn't have any form of compression/recoding tools T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try handbrake T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: merge together save as avi, compress with winrar tiger... T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a nonsense method, merge together/save as avi, then use handbrake to recode it smaller T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: Basically I am just looking for a way to make the files smaller without haveing to conpress them all. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try handbrake T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: How fast is it? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not particularly T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: I am mainly looking fot speed since winrar is quite slow. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You're talking about re-encoding the file-- look up the software tigernuts is recommending. Re-encoding is slow, but it will do what you want T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: performance depends on the settings you choose and your pc T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You really don't have any other options-- I don't think you're going to get much savings from winrar T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if file is compressable by rar, then you used wrong codec settings, AVI,mpeg, x264 are compressed formats so rar shouldn't compress them T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: If its going to be slower then winrar I will just stick with it. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rar is an inappropriate tool for the job T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: You would be surprised what you can do with files. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: I have compressed with rar a 6 gig files to 100meg elan so it does work. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: its just really slow T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the recipient has to uncompress it, so it's not very user-friendly T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: I am not planning on emailing it... T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: I want to upload it T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: hence why I want it smaller. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: recode it with handbrake T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you can compress them, then they are probably in raw form, something like just ripped wav files from cd T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: I already said if its slower then winrar then its not going to help me... T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's a 15 minute file, probably take about 5 minutes T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: avi codec should do the same for video what mp3 do for wav files T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: Its recorded files from using fraps recorder T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try to recode it as x264 T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and pinch the audio down to stereo 128kb T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mebbe reduce video resolution down to standard hd T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll end up 150mb T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: Recode? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Dream SoReal Tech: Using that program I assume right T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yup T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you now have uncompressed (or low compressed) avi files so you need to change them into compressed avi files T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i use super for my video conversions, simple and works T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: but if the speed of compression is a concern..... T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use handbrake for encoding T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's like not having a drink when you're dehydrated because it takes too long to pour T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: what other things can I do on midpssh, other then aard? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Why would you want to do anything other than Aard? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: lol, im just curious T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: variety. Even if we had a thousand Lashers typing away on a thousand computers, there's only so much he can do and plenty he's already decided not to. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could connect to a shell account where you could run a decent cli mudclient T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: i did not understand a word of that T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: and its on my phone T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Of course it is. Why would I install midpssh on my pc? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a shell account is another computer that can call out and connect to wherever you wanted to go. This shell account can have more powerful clients on it (like Mush or CMud), letting you have much of the benefits of that client on your phone. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I've found my phone client is good for not but chatting. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: naught* T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: are you being sarcastic, or... T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Thanks, Oladon. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, mush and cmud don't run on *nix cli. tf and tt++ do tho T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: same concept applies, though. Features of a client not on a phone get exposed to the client on the phone. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sort of. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acaxochitl Tech: Does anyone know what my problem might be with this? My laptop said it needed to be plugged in, so I did. It says plugged in not charging. I've checked the outlet, the connection on the cord to that little box, it's never done this? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: Charger might be bad. Either the power brick or the cable. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: Do you have another laptop you could test it on? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acaxochitl Tech: Nope, only one. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acaxochitl Tech: but it says 0% now and still plugged in, not charging, so I'm guessing it's running off the electricity instead of battery T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: Interesting. Implies that the charging cable is working (good news) T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: What OS are you running? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acaxochitl Tech: windows 7 T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: I haven't ever tried these steps as I've never encountered this problem, but this might help: http://jeffreypalermo.com/blog/plugged-in-not-charging-windows-7-solution/ T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: I have no idea though. I've never tested it. T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acaxochitl Tech: thank you so much. I didn't even think about that! T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: I hope it works! T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: has anyone here bought a kindle fire? T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: drg mi! T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: my grandmother was but I talked her into a htc tablet T3/r5/2011-11-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaxx Tech: A friend of mine bought one. He likes it but said it was difficult to set up in places. Easy for a techie but less simple otherwise. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: anyone active that knows mushclient? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i've heard of it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Somewhat? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that's that thing you type into, right? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you want to use such an obscure client? Go with CMud. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I'm wondering if it'd be possible to input or port in my tintin or wintin script file? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nope, but perhaps the zmud plugin might be able to read it just as well. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: assuming it still even works, that is. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: how do i extract the data from only the first line in campaign check? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: if mush's ticktimer seems to be frozen on 30 what can i try before restarting it? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ticktimer based on gmcp? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: dunno, what ever mushclient uses T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: autotick on? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it's a one off problem restarting is your fastest bet T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Naivirt Tech: Try 'protocols gmcp restart' T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: no change, still stays on 30 T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: gunna try restarting T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: so far so good T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: heh, solved my problem the dumb way, new have 8 triggers to do the job of one T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: now* have T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn boggles at the concept. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: at least it works T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, how does that plugin work T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, found an obnoxious bug on ebay T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is that the one where you go there for some pants and end up buying a new pc? I got that one before... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how delet just as The adrenaline rush wears off.{affoff}97Your awareness fades.{affoff}501 T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: tags spellups? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: {affoff} T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i mean delete {affoff} T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: have you tried tags spellups? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i add plugin bsp T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: now i delete T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: oh,i see T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: tags spellups off T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: now it is ok T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: glad to know it works T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: yeah T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Anyone available to look at the cats example on jQuery API? http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.getJSON/ I'm trying to do something similar for another site, but it doesn't seem to work. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: will blackberry torch work with aardwolf T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: in what context? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: with midpssh it will T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, but it'll only raise light levels by one instead of two T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I've never gotten midpssh to work T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: works on my torch T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: so midpsph is the best to go where can i download it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: thinking of getting blackberry torch T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: it's not bad T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: thanks growltiger T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Need some advice on simple jQuery scripting.. haven't been able to get $.get() to work the way I want it. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: is anyone here using the MUSHClient? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: A great deal of us T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: see 'clients' T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: i am trying to create a recall alias and cannot seem to figure out how it is done.. i want it to hold can enter it then wield my weapon T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can do that with a mudside alias as well T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: can you give me the syntax? everytime i use the semicolon, it enters it then T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Go to the alias screen and enter each command on a new line T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: If you want to do it mudside, use a double semicolan T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: ah hah thats what i was doing wrong T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: ok it is still not working...i brought up the aliases screen, choose the name, then entered each command on a separate lined T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phaded Tech: that did not work...so i did the double semicolons with an alias in the MUD and it also did not wrok T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Is it expanding out the double semicolan? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i make a new macro in mush? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: alt+enter, click macros T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: pick a button, enter commands T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: trying to make it text, like 'north', can it be done? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: trying to make a text macro, like 'examine', 'who', how do i do it? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you want what to do what? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that won't work T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: at least, not easily T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's called an alias T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: if you look under macros they have text macros, fiendish :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: yes, but you want to introduce a wildcard into a macro T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: hmm, dont know if aliases would work with what i'm trying. lemme test it :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it'll do who but not who gorsk T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you'll do examine, but not examine object T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: so if all you want is plain old "who" or "examine", then yes that'll work T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: whoever made mapper is a GOD T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i remember a time when custom SWs were so much pain :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think mapper is too botlike T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: it's just travelling, autopotion/autohunter would be botlike :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not "just travelling" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: what else does it do? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It completely automates a point from any point A to point B, which would otherwise have to be entered manually T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That is not "just moving around", it should be considered botting. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: MUSH basically ruined GQ. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there are mappers that aren't in mush T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Also, it likely just made it readily available to all-- gquesters have been using custom speedwalks that go directly to mobs since I joined. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the majority didn't T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: now the majority have to T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: i closed the bast miniwin_spellup, there a cmd to toggle it back? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: are the aard hotel exits programmed into mapper as well? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: If you program the portal in they'll be used. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: is there a way to trigger spellup only once on multiple 'You lose your concentration..."? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: anyone know how to get the bast miniwin_spellup window back on? reinstalling/closing and reloaded didn't work. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have (\d+)\s+(\w+)),\s+(\w+),\s+([A-Z]{2}),\s+(\d{5})/ this regex i use to capture an address, if i wanted to count in for directions i would use (?:[A-Z]{1,4}) or would it be better to make a small list of n,e,s,w,North,East,South,West? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ambassador Townsend Tech: on the laptop i use my numpad to walk around going north west east south T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: How come my alias isn't working? I put "att *" as the alias and "c 12 &1" as send. I'm using the MUSHclient btw T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Oh sorry, "%1" as send, not "&1" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: your line doesn't start with "att" does it? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Actually it's "atk" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: "atk *" as alias T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: "c 12 %1" as send T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what happens when you type it? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: But what happens is that it just sends "c 12" no matter what I type in T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: It totally ignores the argument T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: expand varibles? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: variables* T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: will try it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: hold on... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I have something similar for backstab and it works just fine. Not sure why it wouldn't be working for you. There must be a flag or option or something you're not setting. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: expand variables didn't fix it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and send to execute? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: And actually, mine doesn't have any special options on it either. Just enabled. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How do you know it is not sending it? Have you tried echocommand to ensure? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Send to execute? WIll try echo command, see what happens T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: dont send it to world, send it to execute and it should work T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: echo command just showed me what I typed, and send to execute made no difference T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: make sure that your alias does not have space in front of it. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: 'echocommand' with no space shows what the client is sending to the mud. IT is a mudside command. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: ah T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: it says "You entered:: c 12" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Here go the alias, press the copy button, then copy and paste that entire thing on http://pastebin.com/ and put the link here. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: http://pastebin.com/8KeBJT2r T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh and before you do that, check your entire list of aliases, make sure you don't have another old version or something that could be matching it. Maybe try changing the priority to 1 to test that. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: It's my only alias, but alright T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you tried send to world? Never seen sent to "re-parse as command" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: World was default T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Guys, I solved it! You have to uncheck the "Regular expression" box. It was checked by default. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: it isn't T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: mine was T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you checked it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: In that case I must've done it by mistake. Just trolled myself T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It checks it by itself if you happen to hit the "convert to regular expression" box at some point. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: button, rather T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Oooohhhh.. That I did do T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Hurr durr :D T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Well, anyways, thanks guys!! T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk smiles happily. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Now my aliases stopped working again.. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Just like that T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Siiiiight T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Siiigh* T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: did you click regexp again? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: nope T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: wha'd you do? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: I did (or rather tried to) add another alias, and now none works T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h seach T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: delete the new one T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias you tried to add trumped all the others :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: and make sure you didn't turn all of them off T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: there's a box T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Yeayea I checked all the things that fucked it up before T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: But here's that catch T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Now they don't work, like, at all T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: you changed it to a regular expression again? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Tho I did compare them to another alias that one of you guys sent me via PM, and that one worked fine! T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: No, I did not, everything perfectly matches the one that works T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: delete it and make it anew. and don't check anything this time T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: I do learn from my mistakes T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Yea, I'll try that T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in game -> configure -> aliases...is the "Enable Aliases" checkbox checked?' T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yeah, what abe said :) T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Yup. Tried unchecking it and checking it again even T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it should be checked T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Alright, deleted and tried again and now it works T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you checked more check-boxes than "Enabled" (like One time) T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Nah the problem was I added the "^" sign before the alias T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: I thought that meant that it would check for the line start... But apparently it didn't T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: that's for regexp T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only when regex is on. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Oh.. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It will automatically add that btw when you type 'convert to regex' T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and for alias you dont need it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Well can I get a similar effect when using arguments? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Without regex, stuff is anchored by default in Mush T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: in regexp, wildcard is (.*) instead of the normal * T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Oh, it is T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: though, that's better left to triggers T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: So really, I could just use regex if I wanted to, and just use (.*) instead of *? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: i suppose... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could, then you'd need the ^ T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Ah T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: alias is short and simple, it may do lots of things which are scripted and stuff, but the command itself should be simple and easy. no need for regexp etc T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: I feel like I'm learning stuff... It feels weird T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: are you sure he'll need it? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: default matching type in mushclient is "glob" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Well, I will not use any complex commands T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he doesn't want it matching "tech I meant to not do that" for my "not" read notes alias, yes T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mush alias would never hit that abelinc, just trigger :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: but wait T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you check the regular expression checkbox (NEVER use the "convert to regular expression button), then all regex rules apply T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: true. as he did push the regexp button... :D T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: I feel like I'm getting idiotified here... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no regexp in alias. quite simple rule :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Lesson learned T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: the button takes a "best guess" at what you meant to write but often times gets it very wrong T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: I'm one step closer to becoming the sith lord T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you know enough to know that you want a regex, then you write the regex yourself rather than it converting T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: only when you kill abelinc T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: Yeayea, main thing is that I got aliases working T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: So thanks again guys T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seach Tech: For helping a lonely comfused lamb find it's pack T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: So anyone care to help me out with a recurring issue? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you bleed every 4 weeks? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sure I'll help you with a recurring issue on tech sure I'll help you... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: nice Kojiro... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: trying to reinstall Win7Pro on an Acer Ferrari One 200 Netbook T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: using an external DVD drive since there isn't one built in, boots to the Win7 Install menu, repartitions hard drive just fine T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: I get to the step of "Install Now" and Setup gets through copying files but hangs on "Expanding Windows files" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you sure it hangs? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: sits and DVD spins for a couple minutes then errors out T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: possible it's a bad dvd? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: Xyrico I thought so too, reusing a DVD that I _JUST_ used to reimage a computer earlier today T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: ahh, ok. if it's a burned dvd your drive may have compatibility issues with that particular brand T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: I get to the same point with Win7 Home Premium and Ultimate Edition DVDs using 3 different external DVD drives T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: oh. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: same external DVD reader I used earlier with a Panasonic Toughbook, worked perfectly T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: very very annoying when I can't use shiney new toy (Solid State Disk) in my netbook T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: does mudlet have a cli mode? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: can a mother with o neg blood and a father with ab neg create a positive children? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: cli? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: command line interface T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: anyone know of any legally free video encoders to convert media center files to avi or mp4 T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm looking for a linux client that i can use remotely via ssh and that supports lua scripting T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know mudlet has points one and three... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too bad, you cannot use MUSHclient. I know it runs under WINE and can use Duckbat's adapter to do something like what you are saying. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: hmm.. Myrkul, check out tintin. I never tried any lua with it though, but came across this - http://tintin.sourceforge.net/scripts/lua.php T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Talk to Abelinc about that one. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can i use mush in wine with ssh though, turie? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (was iaw, sorry) T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is the problem I do not know. Have you tried? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, i have no clue how :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: You could try. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: micodemus: that page seems to be connecting to a lua shell, and not to a mud... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i need both :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: ahh.. kk. To be honest, I never used any lua stuff with tintin =)... But! to answer your other question, yes, you can use wine with mush and portforward via ssh T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: anyone? Netbook refusing to finish expanding Windows files on Win7 Installation DVD's (multiple dvd burners, multiple different versions of DVD tried, all worked with other computers) T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I do it everyday at work... it is just a matter of doing from a terminal "ssh -D 9999 userATservername" and then set Mush to use a socks 5 proxy as "localhost" with port 9999 T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: I also tunnel my web traffic along with my mud traffic... I have an offsite linux that I am tunneling though T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i just want to connect to the mud on one computer, and be able to connect from another computer through that first one :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: nods, it sounds like tunneling might fit the bill for you if both are linux boxes with internet connectivity T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: port tunneling is also great for ... ahem... circumventing company firewalls, blocks, and monitoring... whistles innocently T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, the one running mush will be linux, i'm using windows T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: hmm.. let me test something... brb T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: Myrkul, I just tested it to make sure it'll work. I am on a Windows 7 box and have linux box in Atlanta that I can ssh into. I have Cygwin installed on my Windows 7 box, opened it, and did "ssh -D 9999 userATservername" and connected. I then went into Mush on my Windows 7 client, World Prop, Connection, changed it to Socks 5, localhost, port 9999 and am now connected T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Micodemus Tech: with this way, you'll run Mush from your Windows client, and only pipe the network traffic to the linux box T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: man I am gonna be PISSED if the solution is as simple as the one I just found - "Take out one stick of RAM, Your computer will now install Windows 7" - Herpaderp we're microsoft and we only ever tested installing Win7 on computers with a single stick of RAM =oP~ T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I have 4 and it installs just fine. Me thinks the problem might be a touch more complicated then that. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: check out error code x80070017 - 90% of people with this issue, removing a stick of RAM fixes it instantly T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cecil: MS has RAM. It likes BULLYING! T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: hates* T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I don't doubt that that is the solution, I'm just saying that it's probably more involved then it just being that you have more then one DIMM installed. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DarkKnight Cecil nogs. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: So if you're gonna go around herping some derps, start with your hardware OEM. :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: Garren there's nothing wrong with Acer, been using their products (no, not the aspire/travelmate crap line) for years T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: Ive had way more issues with HP, Dell, Compaq, Gateway, Panasonic, etc... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Microsoft can't help it if some disgruntled slave wager is doing something nasty to your third rate hardware before it goes out the door. :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The question is "When will another software OS will take on MS?" T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: lol Garren Acer is the only OEM that is their own ODM, they dont purchase slave wage crap like everyone else, they make their own =oP T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: All of those companies you mentioned use third rate hardware in their off the shelf systems. You can only be sure of quality by buying the parts yourself. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: nogs just a pain in the ass to buy laptop parts like motherboard, case, screen, etc... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: buy the same laptop off ebay, parts are insanely expensive :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: Ive been saying for years I want to get a Sager, but they've priced themselves out of my market segment. Even barebones, I'd be paying 3-4x what I would for same hardware spec from Acer T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ultrabooks are the next thing to happen. It will be nice to have a SSD. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: nod Turie thats actually the upgrade I'm TRYING to do to this netbook T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cecil: Win7 is not written for SSD. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Win8 is written for it from what I read. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: it is moreso than XP or *shudder* vista T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would rather downgrade to XP instead of using Vista. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: nod Turie but the Dev Alpha of 8 is crap, and there's just a hair more than ZERO compatible software T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: How do you write an OS for an SSD? An SSD is just a flash drive connected to a SATA interface. Windows doesn't care if it's made of bananas as long as it's got a SATA port and understand the standard IO commands. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: wrong Win7 is written for rotating writes to preseve the drive life :P XP is not. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I doubt Vista is but it is such a peice of crap I never asked tech friends. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: nod FD it also (finally) doesn't create a pagefile.sys by default (space is crazy expensive, and with 4GB of RAM, default PF is 6GB in XP - that's oh $50 worth of HDD space on this Enterprise Class 64GB SSD) T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i have this problem with mapper T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: There was 1 match which I could not find a path to within 300 rooms: T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: However, Win7 has issues when creating partions on SSD. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i have passdoor on, and can get to the room (25847) without defining cexits, what's wrong? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: Kaof, customexit in the way? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: is it through a maze by any chance? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you open the shelf? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: there's a shelf? i just passdoor'd it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I had no issues. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What room are you in when you're trying it? Does it work from the room next to it? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: the problem is from room 25845 to 25847 T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: do i have to define a cexit here? passdoor works perfectly fine though T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: oh, I think I know that part. you need to manually open the door since it's a hidden exit, I think. otherwise the mapper doesn't know there's a room next to it T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what are rotating writes, and what writes did Win98se use T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: manually open the door, walk through it, and it should make the link. then it'll work T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: Xyliz rotating writes puts data on different parts of a Solid State Disk since there's a known issue with NAND Flash having a limited number of write cycles. By rotating, you average out your writes across all parts of the disk, prolonging its life T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: xyrico got it :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: didnt have to define a cexit, think mapper requires you to manually open hidden exits to establish a link T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyrico Tech: in my experience, yeah T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: thanks T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DarkKnight Cecil Tech: so in case anyone was wondering what my solution to the Win7 Install issue was, I pulled down the Win7 USB DVD tool and created a bootable USB Drive out of an old 4GB flash drive I had laying around... T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i override the path calculated by mapper? it's going through an aggro room but there's an alternative route T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kaof: 2 ways: create a cexit or make the level for the exit higher than your level T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do you create a cexit to avoid a path? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you find the alternate path and you create a cexit from the room before the aggro room with the alternate path T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I assume you are talking about the angry drunks in masquerade? if so, just right click the room before the angry drunks in the mapper and make the level lock for the east exit higher than your level T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: seems you've encountered the problem too :P T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: i find the level lock method to be more elegant, too many cexits to manage as it is T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Is there a shortcut to computing an unweighted bipartite matching over a weighted bipartite matching? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: i.e., I shouldn't have to calculate max flow if my bipartite graph is unweighted, correct? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: homer needs that dumbed down a little bit, Rathik. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, unweighted you're basially going for the maximum number of edges, yes? It's the same as running with edge weights of 1 T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rathik nods at Jhav. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: True, but I am wondering if there are any shortcuts I might take. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not that I'm aware of, sorry :) T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: To be honest, I am having trouble wrapping my head around max flow (specifically augmenting paths) T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Hmm, so if I'm trying to find an unweighted bipartite matching, and as part of my algorithm, I'm trying to find the max flow from a source to sink by augmenting paths, then isn't that equivalent to finding as many paths as possible from source to sink that are not shared by any other path? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds correct if the thing flowing from one path does not affect another T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you put two streams of water close to each other and they do weird things because of air resistance, gravity and like T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i make mapper buy something, give it to a mob, then go to a certain room? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with php can you set a variable with a variable? eg $foo=$bar T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes. T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: fubar? T3/r5/2011-11-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: hrmm i must be doing somethin wrong then thanks T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how get valgards might T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: lasher spellup or imm pill T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shellfishie Tech: when an imm spells you up. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feihulong explains to the tufts of seedgrass how to bot. Settings -> click on triggers -> autopilot on. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Is there an in game way, or a plugin, to track tempory weapon flags? Like envenom? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Hmm. Bast's invmon plugin has suddenly decided to stop supressing the invmon tags... I can't find the setting to turn that back on, did I brake it? Everything else appears to be working fine... T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Supersaiyan Tech: how much those aard use in gb's T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: any idea why bast's cp miniwindow might start acting up and displaying weirdly? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the bottom half of it is cut off with a black box, reinstalling the miniwin plugin doesn't help though restarting mush does T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is the imfamous black-plugin box - only happens to Bast that I've seen, but all of them do it from time to time T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Infamous* T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Though it has supposedly been fixed in the update sitting on my todo list T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what a odd bug T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I hear it is corruption in the stream the Bast miniwins use to display text T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn boggles at the concept. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But I haven't been able to replicate it on cue, it just happens T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe i should get around to writing my own cp window some time T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: problem is his stuff is really complicated so i can't really debug it or anything T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, great plugins, but the design seems...a little off T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: hwo can i get rid of time stamps in msh commincation window? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: right click T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: there's a timestamp off option T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: lol that easy :/ thanks!! :) T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stretcher Tech: does anyone know how to change your dns to an open dns on a westell 7500 router? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: in mushclient i tried to set a sound to play when gq announced, and match text is 'global quest' and cant get it to play. am i missing something? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: you have to put the sound file in the right place T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: and * T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: matches on global quest does it? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: *global quest* T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: the path is showing in mush trigger correctly T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tried testing it by using an echo or soemthing other than playing a sound? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: ahh that was it, *global quest* T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: I just found I had to put sound trigs in the sound file in the mush folder T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: lol you'd want a more specific patter T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: i know was just testing it T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or when people talk about global quests on public channels T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: your global quest trigger will fire.. repeatedly T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: i want the text for announcing it T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn runs away in utter terror! T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: was just testing T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: Global Quest: The quest will start in * ticks and will last for * ticks. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: thats what you have? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: yup T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: runto gregor, kill gregor T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: ok thanks, hopefully it works - otherwise may miss one T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zelog chuckles politely. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Alixana's Gregor peers intently at Kanmuru Kirua. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone real familiar with cmud? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what do you need? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i just installed cmud on a new computer and registered it with my registration info from zuggsoft, so everything is working fine regarding that. Now i went into my old cmud, and copied all the files under the mygames/cmud/aardwolf/ location and installed them on here. Now the interface is the same, I have my maps and channel captures in the right place, and my text part of the game in the right place, however none of the packages have loaded. So none of my like channel capture scripts are working or anything T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you add the packages when you created the session? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: no how do i do that? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: like the package are in the file now, and i restarted cmud. So all the packages I used to have on other computer are in the exact same places as they are on this one. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: they just arent registering or something T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: edit the session, go to the packages tab, click add T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud doesn't automatically know what packages you want to use, just because you put them in a certain folder T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok do i do this while im still connected? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can, but it won't load them till you close and reopen the session T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok thanks lemme go try it! T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok hrm T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: now everything is coming over as double! T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any idea why its pulling over like double channels? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you have two capture triggers, i would assume :P T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: hrm T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: kk T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is it possible to set a pc with windows 7 back to original factory specs real easily? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: wow windows runs sooo nice on a mac T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any way I can run Unix commands on files which begin with - ? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just use \ T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: use '' T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Both didn't work. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: lol try "" T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: file \-moo tries file oo. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Same with both " and ' T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try file ./-moo T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ah, thanks. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Is there a way to autoresize windows on the aard mush client? so everything scales appropriately? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not really. Window code it really laborious to write.. almsot nothing is done for you T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: suggest it on Fiendish's site maybe... T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: i used to be able to use #dis to disconnect and #con to reconnect if i had queued up too many commands and was going to die T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: in zmud T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: wondered if there was an equivalent function for the mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: instead of just sitting here being disappointed, why don't you go look throught the helpfile? You're not allergic to reading, are you? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: i use connect(1) to reconnect, i'm sure there's a disconnect one T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: silvia, take your mouse to the "Connection" menu up top... T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click on that, it will show you the keyboard shortcuts for disc & connect T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: thanks all T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silvia Tech: not sure why i wasnt thinking like that. so simple. thanks again. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: I'm getting disconnected from the MUD every few seconds. Reconnecting works. Help! T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What are you doing when you're getting disconnected? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is soemthing spamming your client? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: He's linkdead :P T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gorsk grins evilly. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: help! i can only send messages.. and cannot read them.. waht should i do? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle :P T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: I'm not doing anything to get disconnected T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: It just happens periodically T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: What do you mean, spamming my client? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you get too much text.. liek type "note list" your client will diconnect you T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Winklewinkle needs a rock. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you on a wireless connection? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Yes, I'm on a wireless T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I need a rock to wind a piece of string around... T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Something might be on the same bandwidth as your router -- cordless phone, hidden cameras, etc. The intereference can be enough to kick you off. I'd try a wired connection, and see if it still happens. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: are you losing internet or just aard connection? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Alright, thanks T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: But problem is that internet's fine T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: But problem is that internet's fine T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It might only be happening for fractions of a second. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorsk Tech: what client? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i randomly lost connection to aard but not test port twice today if that helps T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might not be able to tell just when you're browsing T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: OK, i'll try wired then, thanks! T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Seems it's a client issue. I tried a different client and it worked T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Aardclient doesn't T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Using the same port that you were before? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (AardMUSH uses 4010 by default) T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Ah no, this one uses 23 T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might be a firewall issue or something, then T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Hm, weird. I have no firewall T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You could try 23 on AardMUSH, and see if it works T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wexley Tech: Yes, i'll try that T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: is there a way to make stuff not appear on the same line as your prompt? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: end prompt in %c T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: thanks =) T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know why when I tried to download aardwolf mushclient it opens it in a zip folder that doesn't allow me to install it? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Why do you need to install it anyway? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wrong zip format T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Just run it! T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: had the same issue with a version of CMud T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, not CMud, one of the utilities T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I mean, unzip it into some folder and that's it, no install needed. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you able to unzip it? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I don't see how to open it T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: and just gave me an error message when I clicked mushclient.exe T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you should just be able to double-click on it. Somewhere in the resulting window should be something about extracting all files. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I don't understand why it doesn't install in start menu etc. like a normal program. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: although I do have the 'standard' version of mushclient already would that impact it? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: because it's a shoddy attempt at making things easier for the user. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Because this makes it portable. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can for example unzip it onto a flash drive and take with you. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyway, unzip it all into some folder, Arystul T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why couldn't you do the same with a real installer? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: because it'd pollute the registry T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: whereas MUSHclient does not do that. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know how to "Insert Copies Cells" in Excel 2007? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: right click the column or row T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm trying that, but it is not giving me that option when I try to copy/paste from one spreadsheet to another....if I try within the same spreadsheet I get an Insert Copied Cells option T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you closing the first spreadsheet before pasting into the second? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope still open. there is a straight insert option, but that doesn't do the trick T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Should it matter the one I'm trying to paste into is in Compatibility Mode? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh well just manually inserted lines until I had enough space. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Can aardmush be put on a flash drive? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yup T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yes T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Nice. I'm going to play in class and flunk my classes. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only thing you will have issues with is sound triggers, which are stored in absolute paths, instead of relative T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why even waste the time going in the first place? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: it has to be on a flash drive for you to play in class? :P T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i thought you could put sound files in the folder T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: They have locked computers for the most part. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Some classes are useless to my education as well as my graduation. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: despite being required for my degree. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can put them in the folder, but MUSH looks for them via an absolute path T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i run mushclient from dropbox, with vastly different absolute paths, and have no problems with sound triggers T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: How do you run it off dropbox? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: seems to me that if you flunk them it'll affect your chances of getting said degree. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i put it in dropbo T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Are you using the dropbox client? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aang Tech: Ah okay makes sense. And @ Dokkar it was a joke. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: idk how dropbox handles paths, but the issue with flash drives is the changing drive letters T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my dropbox is installed on different drives T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Do you use the GUI sound triggers or in a script T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: both T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: PlaySound (0, "ding.wav") T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: without a path mush looks at the sound folder first T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: PlaySound will work, but what do you have the paths listed as in the GUI triggers? T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh, i only use playsound T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i send to script T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently. T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, that's it - when you use the GUI triggers sound functions it only allows absolute paths T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scripting is usually the better option, though many people shy away from it T3/r5/2011-11-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: meh, it's easier to type that one line than navigate all the folders :p T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: anyone heard of a bounty hunter addon/script? Friend of mine told me about it but I can't find any site for it :< T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that does what? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Not entirely sure, but it helps with campaigns.. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: My friend is being kindof vague T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, winklewinkle's search and destroy? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: No idea T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: I'm looking for some sort of local DB i can populate for mobs, similar to maps.. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: rather than relying on duckbat.com (which is down) T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: odd, might want to let duckbat know T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dek Tech: Wow, this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks :) T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: can anyone help with the issue im having where pressing delete on my macbook pro in this mud shows a ^? instead of actually backspacing, aklthouh it appears to work after the fact in chat (not ocommands though) T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: in terminal or other muds it backspaces normally T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: sounds like a bug in your client T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: im not using a client, just telnetting with terminal T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check your terminal settings T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example in putty you can choose whether backspace is Control-H or Control-? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: any web devs on? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "im not using a client, just telnetting with terminal" - why? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: eh why not T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is that a serious question? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: telnet uses less resources for example T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: terminal is a client, and you can set its backspace behavior... T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: i mean obviously i am T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also in work you may not have access to mud client T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: telnet uses less of the resources that don't matter and more of the resource that does T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: im okay w/ terminal guys T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: think its probably the crtl h thing ism seeing T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gaardian.com/page.php?issueid=26&articleid=210 http://www.gaardian.com/page.php?issueid=27&articleid=216 http://www.gaardian.com/page.php?issueid=39&articleid=312 T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in response to "why not" T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: okay i will open those...in lynx T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: this is making me want to run it in dosbox out of spite T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=try-hard T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Paulhump, no need to be a tryhard T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computers have disagreed on backspace pretty much as long as keyboards have had backspace/delete keys, this isn't a new problem, which is why you'll often see old geeks making jokes by typing something mean^h^h^h^hfunny T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: ah that is p good T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: starting to get pretty fond of it anyway T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: carry on! T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in terminal's preferences, have you tried changing the checkbox for delete key sends backspace? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: yup its not doing anything besides switching bewteen /? and /H T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paulhump Tech: its okaay though T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i made a logging trigger from "trigger1" to "trigger2" (world.SetLogOutput). it works and logs but the file has also gagged stuff and bunch of other stuff. how can i make it log only what i see in the mud window? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mushclient T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in your gags, you'd need "omit from log file" checked T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: thanks. there is also such info in the file> [0 T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: oh.. > [0 T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that looks a bit like ansi T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: yes.. and? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: oh. maybe thats the "raw" check box's thing.. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does anyone have the gq info from when Duckbat broke the gq info? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Eh? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Before your time Jhav. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: is there a way i can edit a plugin? the spellup plugin sends nimble cunning instead of nimble and it doesn't fire on that... T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plugins are just text files T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: k thanks T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: K apparently I can't fix it. oh well. don't think i'll be stickin with mush heh. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because of that? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: That's just another straw on the back. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: It magically uninstalled the plugin I installed last night, it changes settings on my character without warning or command. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unlikely T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: unlikely? it happened.. the hell you mean unlikely. fact is not unlikely its fact. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you find a bug report it, otherwise "unlikely". T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: lol, hackers can make your printer catch fire. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I read that the other day and was amused. I wonder if they cover it under warrenty... And if so, can someone hack into my printer and light it on fire plz? :P T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incense Tech: gimme a minute isolating your ip address now T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: I feel violated! T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: note T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oops T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aan'allein Garren Tech: Noted! T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: etoN T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: what are the keywords can i use with 'mapper delete portal'? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper delete portal T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: so i need the full alias i previously typed? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: or you can use the number T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the number didn't work for me T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: the first column of mapper portals? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: yeah T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: cause my subtraction is off T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: sorry, was a miss T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: how do i gag things in mush? like if i want 1% gagged so they don't display when i do spells spellup for example? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: no idea how to, but if the end result is what you want, 'spells spellup learned' T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just make a trigger, and check the box that says "omit line from output" T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: doesn't make sense leinei, i thought of something though thanks anyways T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Doesn't make sense how? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you check the box that says "omit from output", it'll omit it from output. Isn't that what you mean by "gag"? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: but omit 1%, then if i'm at 1% mana it wojn't show? nm, like i said, i thought of something. i don't want to gag all 1%'s just the ones in spellup lists and such T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then you'd need a more intelligent trigger than just matching on 1% T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: a more intelligent client would be nice but alas my tintin script is broken atm. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's not the client that needs more intelligence T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: ouch T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RedRain grins evilly. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: nothing ouch about it. if noone saw that coming get glasses. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What he said. It's extremely easy to write a trigger that matches only on lines from spells spellup that include 1% T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: luckily the opinion of someone that can't tier in 3 years means little to me. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Mush is on par with CMud, so if you're having trouble figuring something out it's not because the client cannot do it. You just don't know how. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: I don't care about mush, or cmud, I like wintin/tintin. If you have nothing constructive to add, and trust me you don't, just stfu. Thanks. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Heck, if you really wanted to, you could even only have the trigger enabled when the output of spells spellup was appearing T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you don't care about mush, why are you scripting in it? T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: if you paid attention to conversations instead of trolling you'd know. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: as he said, he broke is code in tintin too :) T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: it's cool, tech channel was as much help as it normally is, so it's going back off now. T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so...instead of coding in tintin, he starts over in a client he doesn't plan on really using... T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: scrollback is hilarious T3/r5/2011-11-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That's what it's there for.