s to lay everything out before
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: where would the load order be handled?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Open the Aardwolf.mcl in a text editor, scroll to bottom, plugins section
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: dunno if that's the order Abe's referring to or not hough
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't seem to be
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the miniwindows are drawn by according to the id the plugin author gives them
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd have to look back into the mushclient forums to see exactly where gammon said
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is alphabetically
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so an aaa plugin is on top?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: so A-Za-z and 0-9 is somewhere in there
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: let me check, my miniwin_help plugin was designed to be on top of everything
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't seem to be, fiendish's group plugin starts with f17 and is on top of everything
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/mw_other.htm, image and window drawing order
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it doesn't seem to work that way though
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: name="Aardwolf_Group_Monitor", id="f178e68512c685b3be1e9b07" is over name="Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow", id="b555825a4a5700c35fa80780"
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: unless it's some other name?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you looking at plugin name/id or miniwindow name?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well they both use win = getpluginid() so i assume it's the same
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually the order is reversed [Z-A][z-a] and [9-0] is somewhere in there
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: god what a hack, having to use a table layout and stick the element inside a with a relative position +120px to force it outside the table to where it should go
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all because ie7 is pants
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: okay thanks :)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can always do the usual if ie7 then load this alternate css
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja get it, red?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yep
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wouldn't help
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: btw id's are hexadecimal, so 0-F, F being on top
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that shouldn't be, since windownames aren't hex...the fact that an id is generated as a hex is unrelated
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, a miniwindow id does not have to be hexadecimail, it is about reversed ASCII order
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: good point
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when bast mentioned cap difference, I figgured ascii num
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, should be, just that most of the plugins i'm using are using plugin id as window name, so no Z :p
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for my miniwin_help, i appended a lower case y to the beginning of it to make it appear above everything else
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod...that can be good for you...make something h or higher that you want to move
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: win = "z"..getpluginid works :p
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: v7 will have layers for my miniwindows, so layer 1 will be the highest layer, down to layer 10, but that is v7
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, hopefully he'll put in a z-index soon (gammon)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Venomangel waves a large bright yellow sign reading "It's coming in v7 !!"
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a div placed inside div. both divs have position: absolute, second div is positioned 30px from bottom, 30px from right using right: 30px
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: would be nice
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: any alternative way of achieving that without absolute positioning on the second div?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that last was about Abe's comment
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: Looking to set up a Terminal Server at work and was told Server 2000 does not charge for additional licensing whereas Server 2003 does...true?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it's possible
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but wtf?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: where on earth would you get server 2000 these days?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but why use something now 10 years old?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: $$$
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: AT WORK
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well, I wouldn't cite the 10 years old so much as the windows server 2000...XP is over 10 years old as well ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod Winkle
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not all companies have a lot of cash
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, and XP is bad too...
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I wouldn't set up work computers on XP either
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not without really good legacy reasons
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: XP is pretty much still the standard in the corporate world
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: of course, I would not set up windows at all.....
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: server 2000 is required for win logo certification testing, but its almost impossible to find unless youve got an MSDN subscription...
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you would if that's all you had licences for
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and no IT budget
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the navy is transitioning to windows 7. that's all I need.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod Winke again
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: linux is free
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: linux isn't windows
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't likely be saving money by going with server 2000
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the Navy... a plce that knows nothing of a small budget
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you had no budget, you'd have to use linux really
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: exactly
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: Linux have TS services?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: has something similar
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: WinkleWinkle: You clearly don't understand what it takes to shift military tech policy.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm sure the linux bods can tell you
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, just not windows TS services
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hehe. free software is not always free as beer, mind you
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh i understand.. i've written navy software.. i'm just saying they don't have a small budget
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: we charged them a heap!
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: better be the US navy, Winkle, else i'm demanding my money back
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paladinson, what are you planning to use the TS for? you don't just run TS, you have it running other stuff
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle laughs evilly
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, good luck with that, farky
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: Accounting software package for multiple users across a DSL
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, you're really looking to have unhappy users
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: our navy just orders stuff that it can't use, and costs more to cancel the contract than to see it through
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use a multi-user accounting package rather than TS
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I could tell some funny stories about not cancelling contracts, but I don't think I'm allowed to
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: they want to have more ppl being able to access the same old accounting software...again, low/no budget
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is the accounting software multi-user capable?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it handi-capable?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: looking for the IT guy to pull a rabbit outta hat again
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Don't worry, I'm sure Filemaker's locking will keep it perfectly safe.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: isn't filemaker mac only?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod - accouting package is multi-user
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more people being able to access it won't be helped by TS
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just set up a single box with vnc, that way only one user can use it at one time...
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: filemaker hasn't been Mac-only in at least 20 years
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess it could be that long since I used it
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's always been mostly Mac, just not Mac only
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: there's the rub, Ranrr...the single box...they want to know if a box can support multiple users...TS does but then the $$$ variable
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was Claris's, spun off to own company iirc
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the users will be sitting at a different box
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: My mom loved it. It was like the microsoft access database before microsoft ruined it.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I did like FMP back in the day
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adempiere
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: try that
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then again, I also liked Panorama
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod Abe, but at the diff sites, there's a slowdown issue...with TS back to head office, they keep near-equal speed of head office box
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it won't
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: no, it wont on which part?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't fix the speed issues, it's still sending a fair bit of info across the wire
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unless an application has been designed with WAN in mind, it will suffer hugely in the situation you're talking about
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most desktop and small network based accounting systems are going to involve frequent, small disk accesses
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but as i posted, there are some free accounting solution that run on webservers
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: including some that run on java web servers, which can run on linux server operating systems
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: missed that solution - will scroll back
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which, if you didn't mind going without any form of support, would be free
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: none of this is very wise, tbh
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, running term services on server 2000 is a whole lot more unsupported than opensource ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: running anything over dsl on terminal services will drive them nuts, tbh
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: as it is me, right this minute
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: may still have to try and show them the the option - Powers that Be will make the final decision :)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and to go to the initial premise, server 2000 still uses CALs for terminal services
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: but they're included up front, no?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: proper solution would be a managed offsite solution provided by a company that provides server-based accounting system, with support included
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no more so than any other windows server
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I run graphical applications using VNC over DSL and it works pretty well actually
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: -probably- cheaper than buying the hardware and software seperately
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: makes sense, Farkyss
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: make sure they consider hardware costs, running costs, maintenance costs, the whole thing
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, but hardware costs don't exist when you just throw everything onto the same server that everything else runs }:>
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: need to research that, Abe - heard that the TS CALs were extra in 2003 but no charge under 2000 Server
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes they do, abe
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know, farky...but mgmt pretends that they don't
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: costs of replacing the server when it dies prematurely :-) nogs
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i was astonished to find that keeping our server room cool costs nearly $40,000 a year
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and it's only got 4 racks in it ffs
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't have our UPS tell me when it goes on battery...the temp increase threshold page tells me soon enough
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oryn Tech: heh
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: thanx for the tips - will research the other options
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can pretty easily turn on remote desktop and connect from one of the other locations to see how the performance will be
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note, however, that if the primary location is also on DSL (not just the remote ones), that each connection will be sapping speed
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: that's what I have been doin so far...but now the remote site wants more users to connect to the main office at the same time
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and term services doesn't change your licensing with the accounting software
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 5 people using TS is still 5 seats for that
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod nod - accounting package has the licenses covered
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: issue mainly is remote desktop is one person = 2 machines
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say install it physically into a remote machine, then compare performance between TS into the one server, and just having a local install accessing the database remotely
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: done already - horrific difference
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: having seen a similar thing here with Sage accounting, i can safely say that even attempting to serverise it is a mistake
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when they say they're multi-user, they're meaning essentially multi-user at a single site
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod nod
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what's the rub with the installation, shared resource on a master pc?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all depends on how the accounting package deals with the data...if transactions are going across the wire, or if the database file itself essentially is
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if so, could vpn possibly be an alternative rather than ts?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: does vpn allow mutliple users to access the same box simultaneously tho?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be TS over VPN...VPN is security and IP addressing and not really adressing how to use the software
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: vpn just extends a network across multiple sites
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: clients would still to install the client version of the software on each pc they use
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod Abe, mgmt will need to upgrade their accounting package to be able to use TS - current version doesnt
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: sorry my mistake - existing network is WLAN
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, wireless really doesn't come into this, provided the master pc is connected to the router with a cable
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and do people already use it multi-user across the network?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: not yet no, atm it's a couple of remote users Remote Desktopping into main site...but mgmt wants to extend option to more users W/O adding more hardware of possible
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: if*
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does the existing software allow sharing across the exsting internal network?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: it does
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: have you tried it to see what the speed is like over wifi?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod, there is a dip in speed but so far within reason for mgmt
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't know, abe probably knows more about this, but you might want to look into a vpn server to extend the internal network to other sites, then they'd be treated as part of the existing network
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: wlan has done that already
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so other sites can access shared files at headoffice?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: direct remote desktop
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so what's stopping you installing the accounts package on their pcs?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: the local instance of the app on the remote site still needs to access the shared data back at main site...done that way the loss in speed in ridiculous...
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well if the loss in speed that way is too bad, then ts isn't going to be any better, i doubt
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: performance was better when using remote desktop than it was by using the program installed on the remote PC...not too surprising, many packages essentially just share out the database file and don't do it transactionally
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: but giving the remote user a dedicated pc at main site for them to Remote Desktop into, then the speed loss is minor
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that has a hardware cost though
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: that's the rub
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're wondering if they can just stuff more users onto existing hardware using server rather than client OS
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: exactly
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: back to the management mantra of "there is no hardware cost" for pounding harder on existing stuff
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: client os only allows one instance of TS...server allows more
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: except now server 2003 has the licensing issue cost attached
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: server 2003 licensing is the same as 2000
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i think you're only going to be able to achieve it with either windows 2008 ts, which has a cost
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or considering a completely different approach, such as that product i gave a link to earlier
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (or something like it)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which still has a cost, but probably less
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for both, you buy the server OS. For a given windows server purchase, it may bundle 5, 25, 100, etc CALs
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but then, abe, they need to buy the updated version of the accounts package too....
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and the server + maintenance
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: thanx again
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know it's hard, but you've got to hammer home the 'penny wise, pound foolish' message as often as you can
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: our 'above IT manager level' management only this week realised that buying servers with a 1yr service contract was a big mistake
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: our poor IT manager is pulling his hair out
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: because just see numbers
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know when I worked at the elementary school I jerry-rigged plenty of solutions just to get functionality
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ouch
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when the price of the second year was 3x the first the upper-management said "why is it so expensive?" and he just had to reply "because it's no longer in warranty,duh"
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not bad to forgo service contracts if you factor that in by buying redundancy...some of our equipment where we buy 150 access points, it's cheaper to get a bunch of spares than to keep service contracts on them
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they've decided from now on that any new server will get bought with it a 5yr service contract, and assume that after 5yrs the server will be replaced
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for the purposes of working out cost
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does make life simpler
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, we ran into that with our Barracuda spam filter...when I took over, it had the software upkeep for the database, but not the hardware replacement...I inquired and basically was told that we'd have to buy back the previous couple years of hardware maintenance to get it supported...I just bought another box
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: How do I fill an inner tube with a presta valve? I can't google atm since my connection keeps dying on me.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the same way as with a schrader valve, you just need a different head on your pump.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though first you unscrew the tip
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: That much I figured, but should the valve have one of those nobs to cover it, like regular valves?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what, a plastic cap?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: yeah
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't NEED it, but it protects the valve tip
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I just bought a new bike, and the only thing I can do to it tonight is fill the tubes, since I don't have any tools. So I'm gonna satisfy my GAS by filling them :P
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you got a new bike with no tools and didn't at least get something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Topeak-Hexus-16-Function-Bicycle-Tool/dp/B000FICB22
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: yep. Mail-order.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: With the MUSHclient, if one of the windows, mainly the play windows is way to big/mostly offscreen, how can you resize it, since you can't get to lower-right corner to resize?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: there's a filled in corner that you can drag
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: move whole mushclient way to the left, until you see the corner
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: like a little triangle in the corner
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I switched res'es from 1920x1200 to 1280x800 (pc to laptop) and I can't move it far enough to get to the corner
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Is it possible to move the placement of the input bar in MUSHclient?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't believe so
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: bummer, I'd like to have it aligned with my game window, which is not at left edge...
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What files contain the mapper info for MUSHclient, is it just Aardwolf.(db|db-shm|db-wal) and the bookmark file? I'd like to sync between 2 computer
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do not copy files while mushclient is open
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daak nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: -shm and -wal are signs that your database is still opened
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ah, ok.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: flip tape, rewind and press play
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: what is a good p2p client?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Define 'good'
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: works
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: They all work. What are you trying to do?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: download anime
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when you say "p2p" do you mean bittorrent?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Are you on Windows?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: yeah like kazaa, napster, bittorrent
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you do, then you probably won't be able to beat uTorrent for windows. Dunno about other platforms.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lol @ kazaa and napster.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Napster? is this 1996?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: well i'm old give me a break lol
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Try out uTorrent.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What is IRE Composer in my gmcp protocols field in cmud? I assume it's Iron Realms something-or-other; do I need it or can I remove it?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there a way to tell windows xp to always run a process at high priority, or do I have to manually set it in task manager?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if the application can start from a command line, you could
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or you could create a batch file and have the command %windir%\system32\cmd.exe /c "start /high C:\pathtoprog\prog.exe"
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or you could edit the shortcut to do that, too.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, thanks.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or you could give it a blunt
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, editting the shortcut to have that statement works
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i tend to find that tinkering with program priorities is a bad idea
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in word 2010, can i have some portrait pages and some landscape pages in the same document?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I doubt it
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: re: mix of landscape adn portrait.. you can do it
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you need to use section breaks
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Hey, setting up a router, anyone can give some info what the difference between WPA, WPA2, or anyWPA are?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use WPA2, read the wikipedia articles on them if you're feeling masochistic
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: yeah, was thinking i'd try WPA2, but thought I'd check. What's anyWPA?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don't know that one
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Probably some proprietary D-Link thing
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you'd want to use WPA2 or WPA
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Ah. Right. Well, will go with what I know and stick with WPA2 then. Cheers :)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: you should attempt to connect all devices you intend to connect as some will be tempermental with some kinds of security
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: now to think of a suitable PSK :P
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: for instance, the DS is picky and doesn't like to play nice with newer versions of those encryptions
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: older net cards may be picky as well
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: nah, only niggle might be a wireless printer, otherwise we've just got new-ish windows laptops.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Then you'll be fine with WPA2
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: well it'll be clear as your whatever will be unable to do stuff
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: and the router is 3 years old, so yeah, wpa2 it is.
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: so just use that
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: use WPA2
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Will do. What about this check-box "WPA2 pre-authentication" ?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Does anyone know how to scroll back on the new MUSHclient setup?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: mousewheel?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: page-up?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-|Cabal|- Hodor Tech: the bar on the righthand side?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: prayer to a deity?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: No bar, mousewheel doesn't work, but MAN!!! Page up rox0rs
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: (bet you didn't even try praying)
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-|Cabal|- Hodor Tech: with mousewheel, be sure to click inside the text field first, otherwise you could be scrolling in another window
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I had to sacrifice a schoolbus full of children to get mine to scroll. :(
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: worth it then...
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Spank, there IS a bar
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's all the way on the right
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and who doesn't have a mouse wheel?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: People on a phone? But they wouldn't be using MUSHclient either ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone else dislike the new lifehacker layout?
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and gizmodo
T3/r2/2011-02-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but i don't like them much anyway since they let everyones passwords out
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Is there a way to add clan skill buffs to MUSH spellup scripts?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: faboo
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: faboodaboo
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: baboo
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: innefficient, yes, but I am not logged into my computer, at the same desk as the other computer i'm logged in form. Should make mudding from work a tad easier :) no more switching computers, just have to switch screens. I'm an alt-tab away from "working", not a chair swivel away now :) faboo :)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is this how you got all those tp?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with side by side computers?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone here connecting with VNC across a LAN? Any tips for best efficiency and smoothness?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: be on a network that doesnt suck?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its no different than anything else over vnc
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: a vpn and having your client local would probably be smoother
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there are a few options on VNC that you can turn on and off
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yeah, it's just my home network, 100mbps so it's ok for speed. I've not used vnc in years though, a bit rusty on settings etc. I'm running from a quiet low powered machine to my noisy-fanned windows box in the other room.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: including ones that prevent it from polling the entire screen all the time -- those are the ones to look at
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what OS are you using at the ends?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Slackware linux on the small client pc (mini-atx with a small quiet fan) and windows at the other end when I'm using mushclient, slackware at other times. Just experimenting, see if it's a viable way to do things.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Using tightvnc
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: linux is client?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he didn't say linux was a client
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, linux client, windows or linux on the server depending what I'm doing
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: "linux is client?". Notice the ? mark. This denotes a question.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: actually denotes an interrogative statement
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's what happens when you miss out words in a sentence :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Breast Feeder coughs loudly.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: Is this a punctuation class? Note the interrogative sentence culminating in a question mark.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I think that there are a number of options then -- I use wine for mush (it works well)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Venomangel Tech: Lol Breast Feeder
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Breast Feeder snickers softly.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: Swalec are you using wine on a linux or mac for MUSH?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: for remove desktoping I use rdesktop from linux to windows, which performs better than VNC
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: linux and windows
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it would be hard to imagine any combinate working badly when it's on a 100mbit lan
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: remote desktop would be the last
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: combination*
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I had problems with wine, mushclient caused x to use 100% cpu with nvidia closed-source drivers installed.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the new mush is fairly compute intensive, I am afraid, esp under wine
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: vnc is not really an optimal solution, again id say use VPN to tunnel and keep everything on the local box
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sorry I should say, the new aard client
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud and remote desktop works fine, for instance
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: worked fine without the nvidia drivers on, tried on both ubuntu and slack
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: and other windows apps worked ok even with the drivers, just seems to be mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, I used wor and so on off an old laptop, to my main desktop linux at home over wireless no worries
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: worth switching the windows emulation model around a bit -- the old version used to crash for me unless I had wine pretend to be Win 95
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if the problems with mush only happen with linux + certain drivers, why not run windows and use rd?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Breast Feeder Tech: Anyone use Untangle?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: might be worth trying, I think it's set as xp, however the main reason I'm playing with vnc is to move my noisy main pc out of my living room. I can't afford a new case atm (out of work) so I'm trying an interrim solution.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and the case is whats noisy huh....
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it couldnt like be a fan or something its probably the box
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, just got a new supposedly good new fan, which didn't seem to shift enough air (cpu temperature is average of 15 degrees c higher, near crashing point) and is noisier than the old one.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what on earth cpu is in it?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol fael
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Just an athlon 2600, nice big roomy case, runs at 42 degrees normally, new fan made it run in the high 50s
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's not crashing point, that's fairly typical for the cpu type
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've had my machine crash when it gets much over about 50, just locks solid. Maybe there's some other problem there.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: celius is not permitted or allowed
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's designed to run up to 80odd degrees
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though clearly it'll least longer the cooler you keep it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I don't get the old farenheit stuff, sorry :) We stopped using that for most stuff about 20 years ago here.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: we're behind the times here
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you just double it and add 32
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're supposed to be intelligent types, come on, f=1.6c+32
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: right
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: c = (f-32)/1.6
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: 1.8, but yeah
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its 1.8 yea
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: see? :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i just double on the fly
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think I just need to buy a new pc, no cash at the moment though, trying to retrain myself so I can get work, I'm an ex-programmer, suffering with RSI, which rules a hell of a lot of things out.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: current economic climate? shelp stacking
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: or you can count cricket chirps for 15 seconds and add 37
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I can manage an hour or two at the computer a day but much more is painful
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: would you like a method of programming from lying flat on your back?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i would
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it would help me too
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've tried most remedies, medical or otherwise, tried using a trackball, expensive keyboard, switching mouse hands, doesn't really help. Accupuncture didn't work either.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what country are you based?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: UK
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: heh, me too
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and where does it get you? wrists?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: can i make an observation that helped me? it will cause soreness but use one of the squeezing grip things with springs.. it'll build strength back up in your arms over time.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my problems are with trapezoid muscles in the shoulders/neck
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: started with sore hands and a bit in the wrists, affects upper arms and shoulders a bit now.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: found swimming helps a bit
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: exercise
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ultimately looking for a different career
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you lumps
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: i do D:
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I can't swim :) Tried again a few years ago, but I have a massive fear of water
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: exercise doesn't pay the bills
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it does if you're a trainer
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: with all the rhubarbing coming from the unions and left wing, it's a good time to get the hell out of the country, imho, lyte
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i read that coming from the unicorns
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: close enough
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: We should probably end this here, I think unicorns is getting a bit off-topic for tech. Thanks for all the suggestions guys :)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: unfortunately the combined wisdom from drs for rsi is: do less of the stuff that gives you rsi, and do more stuff that generally exercise the affected areas
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, my doctors sent me to a specialist who said they could operate but it would be as likely to worsen the problem as fix it, so I opted for no operation. The Doctors don't seem even slightly interested in doing anything either.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: of course not, they have budgets
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: and your insurance isn't likely to cover RSI... if you have such...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is why, rather than offer me 2 or 3 chiropractor or sports massage apptmts a week, they instead put me on some crazy tricyclic antidepressants
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: just exercise helps.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no insurance here, tweakerbell, NHS - one health cover fits noboduy
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: dont take those pills
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: they will make you worse
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and get a new doctor for chrissake
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: or dont see one at all...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: just what we need, tech's answer to eeyore!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: where do you think we are? USA?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: earth?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: So, why is this on Tech?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm in the bedding in period with em, i.e all of the side-effects, none of the benefits
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: there are no benefits, you just get used to the side effects and lose your abbility to realize it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't know that
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I did suggest we should end it, 'cos it's gone somewhat off-topic :)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: I would consider RSI a technical problem, wouldn't you?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Don't generalise like that, them TCAs can have quite startling results on uncontrolled pain, especially neurogenic pain.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no but I've got a good reason to believe it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: though fair, you'd want to exhaust the other conventional theraies first though.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: therapies*
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well exactly
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what -are- the other conventional therapies?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: but TCA's also have huge side effects.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: of course the docs said screw that here are some pills
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any any of you doctors?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: diet, exercise, healthy sleep habbits
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: ex-pharmacist.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: and dad's a GP.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: So, not quite, but enough. :P
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: seriously it isnt difficult just get off your ass and stop eating deepfried bacon stuffed chocolate donuts for breakfast and second breakfast
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I recommend narcotics. *shrug*
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: but i like my breakfast of champions!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i know it was hard for me to give up the deepfried bacon donuts....
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, qcc
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only trouble with the other conventional therapies is that they aren't available, or aren't practical, or both
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its not available in my area not to be a lazy slob
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: we dont have gravity so exercise is out
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: O.o
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: I think it's obvious you live on a different planet, herodotus
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well duh
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we just hope it's one that's about to be dragged into the sun
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: where exercise and diet are looked to before pharmaceuticals
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh me too we havent had a holiday in ages!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Nah, not all probs like that can be treated by diet/exercise/etc. prevented, probably, but treatment mainly targets the pain and allows the body to heal.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're making a huge assumption that everyone doesn't exercise and everyone has a bad diet
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and in this case your assumption is wholly wrong
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: didnt you say docs wouldnt schedule massages they just gave pills
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i dont make it up, look around yuo
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well we're not talking about the general public, we're talking about specific cases
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not everyone doesn't exercise and not everyone has a bad diet; not everyone has terrible diseases
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: therefore not exercising and having a bad diet gives you terrible diseases
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Not everyone has a rubber duck either. But they should.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn beams with pride.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus fluffles Fluffled Salvanas's fur mercilessly.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: -i- have a rubber duck
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then you must be not everyone and have a terrible disease
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn comforts Tigernuts.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: See, you're doing something right already!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: <3 rubberducks!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and i have a penguin glove puppet
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at an older red dragon whelp.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Unlike us, turning Tech into Debate(Health). Prob should stop now :)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well thats probably the origin of your problem tigernuts
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus bows deeply.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my solution is, when the contract is up, to be dependant on the state - that way the muscles that are afflicted will stop hurting
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as is clearly obvious - repetetive strain? stop doing the repetition
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: democracy has failed - time to go back to a full monarchy
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nutrition Tech: who's gonna be the queen?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oooh me!!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ive always wanted to be queen
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: this might be a silly qestion but can i still seperate commands in mush client with a colon
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: by default its semicolon in mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you can change it in world settings
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go to Game->Configure-Commands and change your stacking char
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok thank you
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: in mush client can you view an area map without having to be in that area
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and there are more than 2 outside of clans
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i'm using the aard mushclient and when i use the command gq check i get the message "AardGQ 'Send To' Window () NOT Open!" in color and on the main window
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: any ideas?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've not seen that before
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Did you have a GQ plugin at one point?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that window will probably open if you join a gq
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bizarro Sephiroth Tech: open the GQ window? :-P
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and then it wouldn't give an error
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: not that i know of and i was in a gq, made it hard to see what i needed to kill
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I assume the window name is what's supposed to go in the ()
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have some leftover cruft from a gq plugin that doesn't exist anymore
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You're using stock MUSHclient from site? I don't think that has an GQ plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it doesn't
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you copy over your old world file instead of using the one provided by the package?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because you probably have some old gq aliases or triggers
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: yep, Aardwolf_GQuest_SeparateLUA plugin
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: so disable it?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: A quick fix is to close mush, open Aardwolf.mcl and comment out the plugin line for that plugin
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: get rid of that and find a new gq plugin
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that is actually a long fix
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: or just...click disable in the plugins window...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the quick fix is to remove it using the plugins window
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: disabled, should i delete it?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Disables aren't saved on reopen afaik
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's really no point in disabling plugins unless you plan to re-enable them
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: can't check gq check, but gq info looks like it should now
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: try 'gq ch', I have the campgin plugin and treast 'cp ch' different from 'cp check' which updates my window
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: and it treats*
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: both repond with the same info
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NdymionNokti Tech: Where is the cp plugin?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I got mine tech got mine at http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Seems to work, given it's age
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Aardwolf_Campaign_Noter_v2.xml
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast has one
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that is probably better
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you like following instructions
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I had to update that one to get colors working the way I wanted
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: what's a good public blogging platform these days? still wordpress ? i dont want to fool around setting it up on a server myself
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Use the IPhone? Lol
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nutrition Tech: facebook
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nutrition Tech: snicker
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: people still blog?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: get the Motorola Atrix, then you can play on a laptop
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: never heard of those, i'll check them out
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: anyone using a Dlink 655 router?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got a dlink 825?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: if the computer services department at my company is watching bandwich usage, will there be that great of a discrepancy between the bandwith I use playing Aardwolf and that of streaming internet radio?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: grats?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: radio uses more than aardwolf
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nice, thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: By alot :p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: esp with compression
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon perks up, something must have grabbed her attention.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what about Aard and viewing of webpages?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: alot of bandwidth!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Depends on the page
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a fat alot
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: mediaheavy pages like cnn.com
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon sniggers at Ol' Dirty Fiendish's actions. Maybe you should REPORT the idjit.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but if they told you that you're not allowed to play games over it, you're still in breech ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: use lynx to look at web pages, you're not going to use a lot of bandwidth then :)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: uless you use a VPN or remote desktop to another machine like i do
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if they are concerned about bandwidth, they are probably able to see exactly which sites you're going to.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: can't use other browsers than Internet Explorer
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loremaster Ramuthalus nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If you type 'mccp' you'll see how much you have used this session
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you don't understand technology, and you're concerned that playing aardwolf might be against your company rules, then DON'T DO IT
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nahhhhh
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and if they are going to that much trouble, there's probably a policy that includes "do it and you're fired." or something similar in it, if they haven't already completely shut it down so you can't.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: .. only if they can detect it...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they can
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nah, no one's been fired because of it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: your corporate IT policies (or HR policies) should explain proper use of company equipment and property
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: A lot of traffic to a single IP address everyday, all day, easy to spot
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: they all say don't play Aardwolf, we're all clear on that
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Just be carefull with it, would suck to lose a job over aard
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: regardless of whether anyone has, it's far better to get the okay first instead of ending up the first person they enact on.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Sure same thing on your radio, but they chekc the ip address and see it's not a radio station and you're busted
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I'm not gonna, just gonna blame it on Internet Radio
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: On the other hand, you'd then have plenty of time to spend on here.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: aard id everthing, jobs are just a way to be able to eat to play aard
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: time at last position: 2 months.... reason for leaving: aardwolf
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the general consensus is that if you're at work, you ought to be working
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Don't forget to donate!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: and when you've run out of work to be doing?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: go ask for some more, or go home
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: run...out of...work?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Ask your boss for me?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does not compute
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: work slower
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: apparently you don't work for the government
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: What kind of wierd job runs out of work to work on
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently -you- don't work for -our- government
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if I had employees playing aardwolf at the office, I'd fire them for it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: I don't really claim ownership to the Govt
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: or be incredibly good, so your boss has to conform to your wishes :)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you have successfully made the case for public sector job cuts, what next? :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: old if you could catch them :P
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: companies are taking it a step farther than that, Tiger. Some will fire employees for using company computers to access private-life stuff like email, buying flowers online for your wife (for Valentine's Day!), or even just generic online computer usage while on break/lunch.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: haha, yea that was my intention....
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: provided that's made clear, dokkar, that's perfectly fair
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: WinkleWinkle: short of an encrypted tunnel, it's not hard to catch.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it's all dependent on company policies
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's what i'm using :D
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and even that can be monitored
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: we have clients with skine tone monitors, keystroke loggers,...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: all of that extra stuff can be blamed on the Fantasy sports phenomenon that peaked a year or two ago.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Goto your boss and say I have no work, can I go home, see how irate he gets.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: But I've never heard of a company that limits bandwidth without watching the data
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: or just continue to play Aardwolf...not piss anyone off, and go home at a normal time
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Even Staples free wifi is monitored
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I wouldn't fire employees for playing games when there is no work.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: I would fire you as a boss for not making people work while on the clock :p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if there is no work, they should fire themselves for overstaffing
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm wayyy ahead of scedule and need downtime to think about problems
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I don't think they're limiting bandwith, there's just rumors around the department that the reason everything is running slower is because people use more and more bandwith and they were going to do something about it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Is it that you think there's no work? Or have you asked for work to do?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Now if there's deadlines to make and during that time someone spents a significant % of the time requesting 'fun' pages itd be different :p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Where do you work Tenlorn?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: for the County
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: IT work?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: But I assume it's a big company with strict rules :(
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Data entry?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: we're at our computers all day, lots of data processing and contract management
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: time to go through the "shake it" tray
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon used to go to Office Depot as a kid and reboot their test machines into BIOS and set startup and BIOS passwords...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scandalar laughs out loud.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Awesome..
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: I hate people like Oladon!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: But if your coding all day, I wouldn't mind employees taking breaks, up to a certain point they actually perform better.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they had Office Depots back then? :P
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Just be thankful you have a job AND you can play aardwolf, there are starving children with neither
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Just on policy
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle nod Aduin
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: and there are rich white dudes who make 10 times what I do while doing nothing
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that was just after they invented railways, dokkar
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oladon is an evil kid that likes to torment techs.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: The starving children are normal, I'd be more worried about the well fed children who eat human flesh :)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: It's okay, I got my dues... became a tech for a few years at a later time :P
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Loremaster Ramuthalus person again...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they aren't eating humans, they're eating recycled cow, pig, and chicken.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Someone asked me yesterday If I could make their black and white copy come out in color again
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: delicious human flesh
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Anyway, back to real job now.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: they were adamant that it was a black and white copy of a color picture
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kinjin falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: and I should put it thru the color machine to make it colored again
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: All the data's still stored on the page, right?!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lmfao
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: just hand it back to them and say "Done!"
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i love stupid people!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: My favorite is still 'I broke my computer's cup holder'.... (cd tray)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: "wheres the any key?"
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loremaster Ramuthalus bursts into tears.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if they complain, just say it's as black as you can get it on that machine.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Also, How often do you think people come in to make a fax, and dial 9 for outside line, and 11 for an international fax...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: that is epic
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I've only ever had people ask first, not just assume
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: My monitor's colours keep messing up each time I adjust my seat. How do I fix it?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Augh, stop being distracting, people... I've got work to do!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: guess you Office Depot folks have a lot more exposure to that kind of stupid than I do, though
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Same at staples
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, I wonder if Staples/Office Max/Office Depot all started from the same parent company losing disgruntled/motivated employees?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Heh, staples is like the place where all displaced retail managers end up after loosing a job
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: home despot, Office max, office despot, Best buy, Radio shack, circut city...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: heh, cupholders and computers... it always reminds me this strip: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030722&mode=classic
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Like 40% of local mangement is from circut city
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: quick question about firefox. My banks website used to be setup with extra security on my laptop, and recently its asking me again if I want to add extra security, but it does it every time now even if I select yes, like its not saving the cookie or something
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: So I have to enter all my extra answers like I'm using a public computer
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if your client prevents the writing or saving of cookies, that happens
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: That would explain it normally, but I've been using firefox for it for years, and it only recently started
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Got any new plugins, like noscript or anything?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: cookies can also be corrupted. When this happens, you just have to delete the cookie and try again.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: No, I reskinned, but no other plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: remember: anything that writes data to file (ie, your HDD), can do it wrong.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Let me try that
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If you login, tell it to save, logout, and go back to login, without closing the browser, so it skip the extra questions?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: so it = does it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: I don't want it to skip it, I want to enable it, Its my bank account Dood :p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Do you know where firefox stores it cookie files?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: %APPDATA%/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/ , but I think the newer version uses a sqllite database file
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sqlite is awesome
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Could be a cross-domain cookie that's being blocked, if that's the case you'd have to find out what exceptions to add
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Well, its on my trusted site list
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if it's redirecting you, the new site might not be on that list as well. Think that's what he's saying.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: many banks utilize multi sub-domains for their online banking, and sometimes a block can happen, somtimes you can solve it, sometimes it's something the bank programmer hve to fix.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: that would suck
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: do you have nofol on?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: mischan
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I'd suggest googling it, if it's a popular bank, or contacting their online banking support
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Have you tried the same thing in IE/Chrome to see if they work there?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: I've never used chrome, and I dislike IE, should I try it in another browser?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Chrome is fantastic
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: It might help narrow it down to browser-specific vs problem on their end
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: really fat.. and catchign up to FF with addons
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Thats the google browser?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe fat = fast
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't trust Chrome
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: too shiney
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Chrome is Google's browser yes
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: I'll try chrome and see what happens then
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Removing the cookie didn't seem to work
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: However I'm not sure if I got the right cookie
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If it works in Chrome, then you know the problem is in FF
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If it doesn't, it doesnt help you much ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: The site works at intended with chrome
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What version of FF?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: 3.6.13
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Up to date I think
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Yea it is... if you don't mind blowing alway all your cookies, you can try that... Tools -> Clear Recent Histroy, select Everything from dropdown, checkbox cookies only
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ramuth, check to see if the website is using something like www.bank.com for the main site, but have images on a separate server...even things like bank.com vs www.bank.com will be treated differently
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Ok, FF works fine now too, I guess it was a cookie problem after all
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Thanks for the help, Altho I kinda like chroms UI
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Chrome is pretty minimal, you can get FF looking the same though ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Is there a chrome skin?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you, google Chrome Skins
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattpan Tech: i met with the weirdest problem on my mushclient - i somehow managed to push my main mud screen into a corner and i can't seem to drag it anymore, b'cos the top is covered by the taskbar
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Chrome is quite good, and I'm hoping Chrome Frame plug-in for IE starts being manidatory ;p would make doing sites much easier ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a what?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the mush taskbar or the windows taskbar?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You can unlock and move the taskbar.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: my mini-window has double stuck at 2 minutes
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right click down at the bottom on the mushclient icon in the windows task bar and select "Move"
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: perpetual double stuck at 2 minutes? sounds like a good thing(tm)
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "my mini-window" doesn't tell us much
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Its basts Miniwin plugin for Double
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: the standard miniwin plugin
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is no "standard miniwin plugin"
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: wow, i really want to ask for help
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Matt, try typing resetaard
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattpan Tech: wow resetaard worked
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattpan Tech: thx
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: score one for team planahead
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattpan Tech: felt stupid for quite a while, stuck screen lol
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I had same thing when switching resolutions, dunno if there's a better fix
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: A beter fix would be to submit the error so that coders can recode the plugins :0
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what error?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: All teh errorz!
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: it's not really an error, if you make you a mini-window too big, there's no way to scrol to get to the corner to resize
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattpan Tech: yep thats exactly it
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You can move the window off screen and much as you can and try to get to the resizer, but not always possible
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the miniwindows in the client package have some protection against that, but not if you then go and change your display resolution
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daak nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Or copy the config from one computer to another with drastically different resolutions
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: There a way to create an alias/trigger via text input in MUSHclient, in zmud you could do #alias foo bar, anything similar?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can make aliases pretty easy in mush
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: True, but I'm lazy and like command-line commands to do easy stuff ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If it's easy enough, you could do a server-side alias
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daak nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: anyone have experience with the mutt mail client?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Never heard of it.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Only 12 years or so...
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Was that the end of the question?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How do I match a * in mushclient without using regex?
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Use regex :(
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha, I could this is true, guess I don't have any option.
T3/r2/2011-02-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: anyone into MIPS know why .extern ext1 0x4 is declaring ext1 0x10000000 while $gp is pointing to 0x10008000?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: can anyone reccomend a decent inventory plugin that will put inventory in a miniwindow? found a thread on the mushclient site listing one but its an old thread and looks like it was discontinued
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: what is the difference between cmud and cmud pro?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: probly a few extra features in pro. not sure. i use mush since i cant justify the cost of cmud
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: hahaha only differnce is ssh support and new mapper scripting thats not even implamented yet
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: to be honest the whole cmud thing is a bit of a rip off in my opinion. zmud was worth it. but 40 dollars is a LOT of cash in my currency and to pay for every upgrade is a joke. mush does pretty much everything cmud does, its free and it has a much larger communbity developer base from what i've seen.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: can get plugins for pretty much anything you want in mush but googling for any form of plugin / extension for cmud yields almost no results
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i tried cmud for a few days, returned it and changed to mush :/
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i cant stand mush i never could`
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: only thing cmud does better is the mapper but give fiendish a couple more weeks and even that will change
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: fiendish has made the mush mapper pretty damn good now
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: to each his own. to me i just find i can do more with mush than i ever could with zmud
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: better than an untweaked cmud mapper anyway
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and more customizable, i don't think you can even edit the code for cmud mapper
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: zmud is the norton antivirus of the mud world
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: only thing i am waiting anxiously for is that mapper opens doors but fiendish says thats coming so im happy. passdoor works ok for now
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone used trigger sequences in mush before?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ok givin mush a try any clue why when i try to maximize the screen it doesnt fully maximize??
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: morning i have a question about mush... anybody here be able to give me some advise?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ask fiendish or bast
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: thanx
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: depends on the question
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: well i am using ver 4.71... but thinking about trying the new aard ver.. is their i file that i need to copy over to keep all my aliasses and macro's and if so what file is it
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: or does it get saved by the world file
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: there is a file... trying to remember which one
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: it gets saved in aardwolf.mcl. open both in a text editor and copy the aliases/triggers sections across
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: thanx will be much appreciated :)
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: it is in the worlds folder
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: might also want to copy the macros/keypad sections if you use those
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: my world file is on my desktop
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepred Tech: im using mush client how do i set a triger
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Game->Configure->Triggers will get you to the right place
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: After that, it depends on exactly what you want to do.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepred Tech: i want to do it like this triger is dead skin cloak
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: select add, put is dead in the trigger and put skin cloak in the output
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepred Tech: i found the trigers field but not the output field
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepred Tech: any help i just got the client
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: go read the help file
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepred Tech: the triger isent working
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deepred Tech: in wich field should i type what i want the triger to do
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: when i search on google. my editbox(where i type the search) disappears, im running firefox without addons and it does this(once i log out of gmail the problem disappears.) what do?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: anyone know where a good site to find uptodated plugins for mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kneferilis Tech: How do I make a mini window resizable? I want to make the inventory plugin resizable
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you probably want someone like Fiendish or Bast to answer mush questions, and they don't appear to be about right now
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Short answer, you don't without some intimitate knowledge of how miniwindows work and how to change the code involving them.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list and http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/downloads/list
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my non-mush miniwindows resize automatically on dragging the corners
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Tigernuts.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mine as well
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which goes to show that client communism isn't always the best policy
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts: Which client do you have?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I was thinking of developing/mainting a tintin version for linux users like Fiend does for mush, but it sounds like work to me.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav wants to share his laziness. Will you help?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know why this match pattern won't remove all the gnome-terminal ASCII color codes from a text file for sed? --> s/^[[[0-9]
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: lacks escapes for [?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: rather --> s/\^\[\[[0-9];[0-9]*m//g
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: unless that got cutoff it isnt properly formed
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ah, also
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ^[ is a single escape character
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: use the command 'col' instead
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: 0x1B
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Col doesn't seem to be working either, it definitely doesn't show the color, but it still shows the color sequence
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: for the ^[ character, try pressing ctrl-v and then escape when you do the command. That should do it.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: any ideas as to what the mush gmcp mapper will work on the main port but when i open a second world runnin at the same time it will not load on test port there is a post on tech with the full error
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you trying to open the same map db twice?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: is there a way to have them both working at the same time?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd say no
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you make a copy of the db though, it would probably work
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: set up a audiable notification when i get a quest
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: mt
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol i just did that today
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: very useful while working
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: aye ive been over on the test port had one for cmud just switched to mush
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i feel all dirty
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Updating the client from the original version and the webssite says all my triggers and aliases are in the mcl file...but I can't find it where it says it was. Any ideas?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when it says triggers and aliases, it's only referring to ones which you made under game -> configure -> triggers/aliases, not ones which were associated with any plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mcl file will be in worlds, within the mushclient program's folder
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: right...those are the ones I want, like my alias for 'cs' is cure serious three times fast.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you had customized where that world .mcl file lives, you can see the location by going to file -> global preferences, world tab
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stock one from fiendish should be .\worlds\Aardwolf.mcl
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for relative URLs, it's starting from where mushclient itself lives (I believe)
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Hmm, says it's there. I guess I'll have to hunt them down or just forget about it
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you start up mushclient from an alias, like on the desktop or in the start menu?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: From the desktop until now. I managed to migrate them the old fashioned way, cut and paste between versions
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you right-click the desktop shortcut and go to properties, that will let you open file location to see where the old mushclient really lives
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tlaloc nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, mush nicely has that 'copy' button in the trig definition window that copies the whole xml definition
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Now I just need to uninstall the old one
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: and figure out why it is telling me coords every time I move
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: 'tag coords off'?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags coords off
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: all under 'tag'
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I wonder why I noticed it between version changes, though that worked
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: here here! 13 or 14 years and i still haven't tiered
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were looking for differences, or your old version had a plugin that used the coords and hid them from view
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: mis!
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Likely the second
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyone knows their way around LaTeX?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Kinky :P
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: who doesnt like to be dominated by a hottie from time to time
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: tip: don't push the straw all the way up their noses if you don't want to deal with blood.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I know the theory OF tex, but I don't actually use it. What do you need to know?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Are MUSHClient plugins loaded into memory or read from the file at each call? In other words can you edit and save the plugin file on the fly, or does it have to be reloaded somehow.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it has to be reloaded from the "plugins" menu
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Metria, I need a way to draw horizontal huffman trees without nodes
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Preferably easily (=
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorry, way out of my experience range
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: no problemo
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: any suggestions fro changing the colors in the communication log? I have the imm channel visible in the main window by changing red to coral colored, but it doesn't convert to the comm log
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which client?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which client?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mix
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Newest version of Mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know anything about running linux framebuffer apps?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Is there any way to see what triggers, etc. a plugin has created in MUSHClient other than reading the file?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, they're just in the file
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The only way I know of is to read the file
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps you could write a plugin that reads the file for you and reports the contents in a nice, easy-to-read format?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could select the triggers part of the file, hit copy, open up a clean mushclient, go to game -> configure -> triggers and paste, then look at the list
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don'tneed to open a clean mushclient, just open a blank world
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NdymionNokti Tech: Does anyone know what I might do to get the group box to show. It has never shown.
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is the group package enabled (group 1)?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is the plugin installed?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you in a group?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ndym, it didn't exist until this week...have you JUST downloaded a new client?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NdymionNokti Tech: I'm in a group, how do I enable the group package?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NdymionNokti Tech: ah, that's what is different we couldn't figure out why ours was different
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ours?
T3/r2/2011-02-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: we?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: who do I get to thank for this gorgeous new version of the aardwolf mud client?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can thank me if you want.. I had nothing to do with it, but you can still thank me.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: fiendish is the guilty party i believe
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Hmm, Fiendish, bast, dunno, check the project list
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nick Gammon for Mushclient, and Fiendish, Spartacus, Lasher, etc for the plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: Well thank you all, I'm still trying to take it all in. The aardwolf log in the background is bad***
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: logo*
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it's funny that that's the part you like best :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Who did the logo?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can only fix bugs after they get reported :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: sounds like it is then ^^
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I didn't say I liked that best, just that its badass. The dark/black color scheme matches the rest of my desktop perfectly :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Guess I should upgrade, mapper should speed up my quest im guessing ^^
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: fiendish can i make a suggestion? your stats mini window, can you change that slightly. i prefer basts one just because it lists trains/pracs as well and also gold in bank. just gives a little more info
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Ouch
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so use bast's?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: not a biggie im just saying. im a stats/info freak like having everything
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: erm
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: change the font
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't even use the stats window, personally.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it's a waste of screen space already :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: think i was misunderstood there. i meant i like the bast info better as there is more of it. can never have too much info. i did not mean there is anything wrong with fiendish's one
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I have a pretty small screen
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ya I tried one of the earlier bast versions with the gmcp, on a laptop, not enough room for all the windows
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Sheni: I'm not aware of any bugs in the latest development release at http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/files/MUSHclient.zip
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nice, sounds like its rdy for me to try ^^
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: 14070 if you really want to get technical.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: mis.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using the new mush? why is the info channel not being captured in the communications log?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: And how to make it so, please?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: right click on communications log and go to capture other and select info to add it
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: ah thanks =D
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Quick response. Know why the Bast autohunt plugin might not work for me? It sends one direction and then stops with no message.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does your prompt end with %c?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: not a clue. does the same on my side
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure your prompts end with %c
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Ah, no. Will try that, thanks.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: mine does
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: not sure why but the autohunt plugin doesnt send more than one direction. my prompt is right with %c at end and promptflags are off as well. been doing it for a while now. i just use the old original swalec one that i have updated
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks Fiendish, I meant to try the basic troubleshooting steps before asking. But stii, with %c at end of both prompts, promptflags off, and global tags on, autohunt still sends one direction and stops with no message. I am thinking some setting like command echo?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dunno then. I don't use autohunt.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ive never had autohunt work right, I just macro it, set the mob and spam it on and off
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks, I had a simplistic one, I'll reimplement it here.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: it works between 2-6 times or so for me then stops
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: with the mapper the way it works now, i just mapper area and then im there. no need to autohunt and way faster than autohunt as well
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: H4x !
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: drool...
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: fiendish gave me the hax so its ok
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Meh Ima need to stop leveling at some point and start downloading
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its a pain in the rear end to map out some areas but once in mapper its a doddle to get to anywhere
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: just need a script to change mob names into rooms
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: would be nice on gqs and cps
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have one
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that will not be put into the client
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Hehe damn ><
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: somebody a few months ago started work on an inventory plugin that im quite keen on, just cant remember for the life of me who it was
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's in the mushclient forums
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thats an old thread. last post in it was july last year stating it doesnt work. unless im looking at the wrong thread
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Does it use gmcp? The one I have at least is full of triggers that watch for get/drop etc. I thought with gmcp it should be easier and also wondered if anyone updated it.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: an event driven drag and drop inventory system would be awesome :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: inventory stuff doesn't have a gmcp part...but invmon works well for inventory plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: If im using pre-gmcp MUSH, and was updating can I save all the alias/macro/trigger/etc... and pop it right in the new one ?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read the section on upgrading
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: linked from main Aard page ?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it has details about that
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: k tks
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but use the zip archive from the link I posted earlier
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it has bugs fixed
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Last question..., Does the mapper only do runto's from recall or will it runto from any room? Such as if you were at the start of say Ddoom can you runto another room without going to recall, mapper ddoom sunset ?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will do that, though there's no provision yet for narrowing a search to a room in an area other than the one you're in
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i have used it to run from a room in onyx bazaar to a room in hatchling aerie
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: wow, nice
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but if you know the exact room name, you can go directly to it
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: was on a room cp and just ran from room to room. took about 20 mins for the cp
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: so for a CP, runto area, where mob, mapper area room
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: something like that
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yep and if you use the hunt trick plugin its even easier rt area, ht mob, mapper area room
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: omg lol
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Might actually have QPs to spend ^^
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: hunt trick plugin actually makes it a bit too easy
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hai. i'm using the mush that was posted on the website a while back.. i'm thinking about upgrading it but i really don't want to lose all my aliases. is there a way to move these?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: send fiendish or bast a note
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: if you mean from the 'new' aardmush to the upgrade with mapper features added, the note mentioned a link about that i think
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: no note needed. look on the aardwolf site. there are instructions for copying them accross. or just read the note in announce about the new version to get the url to go straight to the upgrade instructions page
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: board announce, note read last for the note
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i read the stuff on the website. i just want to make sure that my aliases will be included in the move
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: you need to copy your aliases from the old aardwolf.mcl file to the new one
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: what file should i copy?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: if you open aardwolf.mcl in a text editor you will find all your aliases/triggers etc listed there. you need to copy them to the new aardwolf.mcl file
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there's a section on upgrading client
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: do NOT copy the whole file as it will be for an older version of mush and i dont know how it will react
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just follow the instructions
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes, i've read it, it doesnt say anything about transferring aliases.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: what redryn said
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i copied the whole file, it worked for me
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i read it.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: whole file as in what?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ctrl-c, ctrl-v
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no - what is the file called, or an approximate name, or where it is found?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: aardwolf.mcl....
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it is stated on the website
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: aardwolf.mcl it is usally in the worlds subdirectory
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just make a backup of the directory and do as per the website says
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he's got the wholllle world, in his world's directory
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks kindly
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thanks for Adobe for breaking BBC iPlayer website
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh dear, has telnet_options.lua gone from the latest version of MUSHclient?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: th at'll learn ya
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in what sense?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I don't suppose there is a way to make the MUSHClient Configuration window nonmodal?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not without the source code there wouldn't be
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've ben annoyed my that myself about 20 times
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Today? :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can suggest it on the mushclient forums
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: swalec: uh, telnet_options.lua is still there. it's in the plugins folder instead of the lua folder.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and for everyone before, copying the whole Aardwolf.mcl file will work just fine
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it just won't have minor improvements like disabling autosay and automatically loading the group plugin
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no problem with using a slightly older world file
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the version number inside just gets updated
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there any easy way to make GUI wrapper that i could bundle certain windows together to open the same way running the same thing each time? IE, make 5 terminals all open up at the exact same time, in the same position, tailing or whatever i tell them to, and be able to maximize, minimize, etc it the same way, under linux?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you find a way to do that, please let me know. That'd be insanely useful.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: <-- windows guy
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy to make a set of them to open up placed where you want, doing what you want...they wouldn't minimize together, though
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well, i know i can use gnome-terminall --geometry to set the size/position, but i want them to minimize and such as one entity
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use virt screens
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: switching screens effectively minimizes that set
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: But you could put them in a separate workspcae, no?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I would if it weren't for the ugly white band across the screen from them
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Arnica.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, that's a possibility i suppose
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, then so to expand on that, is there any way to display a grid of sorts for my screen so i don't have to guess/check where it's going to spawn at?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you made a grid, you could set that to your wallpaper.. That's the low-tech way to do it though.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use xwininfo...make 1 xterm, size/move it how you want it, then xwininfo it
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there a gnome-terminal equivalent of xwininfo?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger likes gnome-terminal better than xterm.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an X command, not specific to xterm, I just used that as an example
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: thought it was an xterm command
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you type xwininfo, then click on the x win(dow) that you want the info on
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Cool, thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there a command line way to minimize? maybe i can have the script do a funciton to min them all too
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: minimizing is a function of the window manager
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez, http://www.oreillynet.com/sysadmin/blog/2004/12/wmctrl_shade_move_resize_windo.html and http://tomas.styblo.name/wmctrl/ describe a tool that sounds like it'll do just what you want
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Awesome! Thanks abe.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Will look here shortly when all the double is done with
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Anyone having luck with the CP miniwindow?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i downloaded one that works pretty good
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: it just lists the mobs in a box though, doesnt highlite them in your area...i wish i knew where one that did that was :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/Aardwolf/Aardwolf_Campaign_Noter_v2.xml works well, there's better
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast has a good one I hear
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: finger Bast for his site
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: is it worth upgrading to the new edition of aardmush btw? any experience to share on that one?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I did, but I was on v4.4 so it was way behind ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: im procrastinating on learning how to do it :P
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: If you don't have anything fancy, you can just save out your aliases/triggers to a file, and import them into the new version
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: is that save world details as?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: CTRL+SHIFT+9
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: CTRL+SHIFT+9
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Save
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: would that save rooms explored and that sort of thing too?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: CTRL+SHIFT+8 for triggers
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: That is the Aardwolf.db file in the world folder, I think, not 100%
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You need to close mush to back it up though
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: nods
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: appreciate the help, i see how u save that stuff
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You CAN use your existing Aardwolf.mcl instead, but you lose some new features, so said Fiendish
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i like new features
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mgrin
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if you save your alias/triggers out, and copy your Aardwolf.db, i think that's it, but don't kow for sure
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: why can i sometimes save chunks of script as xml and sometimes only as a firefox document?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if the file is .xml firefox will show it as an xml document, you can just press CTRL+U (view source)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: and copy from there
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd use Save
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and sve the xml docment
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: just like you would a web page
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if it's just to copy into another window, saving first is a waste of time
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: In MUSHClient, how do I get a handle on a piece of gmcp data to use in an alias (not a script alias)? Like echo gmcp.room.info.num, for example
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a pretty watered down script to check out would be my warfare gag script...it grabs your level from gmcp
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Does that just gag wars you can't combat in?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only looks at level, so wouldn't gag clan wars if you're nopk or unclanned, but cuts down on the spam (and lets you set a color for warfare messages)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks, I grepped some plugins and got the gmcpval thing.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so i have a gnome-terminal tailing my gmcp.group text file that's being logged for group status, i do #system {/dev/null > ~/tintin/group} to clear it, but the info still remains in the terminal, is there anyways to externally execute the bash "clear" inside the terminal without losing focuse in my current file?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: I need to get kubuntu off of a laptop and winXP on in it's place. any thoughts?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: tried a winxp install disc and it says there's no hdd...
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so put in a hdd
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: It needs a hard drive first :)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: sorry, it has a hdd. but for whatever reason it's not being seen by the xp cd
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just dump some empty lines into it when you want it to be blank
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: that's terribly hackish abe
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, that's what i'm doing now
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: did you wipe the drive or just delete everything?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You wonder why . o O ( ) Habasi slammed FootLong Cheezburger's head with a mallet.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Define buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Basically it's #system {/dev/null > ~/tintin/group}\;#line log {\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n} {~/tintin/log}
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: habs, technically using tail -f is hackish to begin with ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Do you still have linux kernel on the HD
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tail -f isn't meant to be "cleared"
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: I changed nothing. it's running kubuntu flawlessly.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, AFAIK i can't use COM communication on linux like zmud/cmud does, or i would
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: if there's a forum I can look around in I'll be happy to do that. just dunno where to start
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Your tring to make a Dual boot system or change the OS totally?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: single. trying to remove kubuntu and run xp solo
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Unless you scrubed the drive its still set up for Linux Kernel
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: correct
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: WinXP uses NTFS or FAT32
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: ntfs
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Scrub the drive and try again
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: should still be able to see the hdd regardless of the filestructure
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: how
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: DL a drive srubber
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: and I've had trouble reading HDD with different file structures before, dunno why
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: the sad part is I've setup dual boot machines before but that was fedora. ok I'll look around
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Linux will see an NTFS/FAT32 drive, but XP sucks
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: I agree but he wants xp and he's familiar with it
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loremaster Ramuthalus nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Just scrub and try again
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What does "scrubbing" a drive actually do?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its just slang for randomizing all the bits
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: linux is wonderful if you know how to use it, but...
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: which basically is erasing it
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Instead of erasing the data and keeping the file structure, it erases all data from head to head
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ohh. Why randomizing? It's way easier to zero it than to generate enough random numbers (=
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: the drives partition info is still stored on a formated drive, thats why its called "format" and not "erase"
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i dont really remember why... something i never bothered to really understand from computer engineering seminar xP
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Its like taking a file cabinet and dumping all the files on the ground, you can put them back however you want, instead of putting them back where they go
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well normally "erasing" something just deleted its table links... nothing is done to the data. scrubbing is randomizing it so not only is it truly erased but its also difficult to tell where it was and thereby infer its contents
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats about as well as i understand it now
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Partition info can be "fixed" by scrubbing/erasing the first 512 bytes of the drive, the MBR (=
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Loremaster Ramuthalus nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at Cizra.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Right, but I find it easier to scrub
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Loremaster Ramuthalus Tech: Also more secure if people care about that kinda thing
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: im personally a little paranoid and scrub
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: because im the kind of guy that likes to take forensic software to used drives i pick up on ebay xP
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: anyone know how to get the spellups plugin to work with the new aard MUSH client?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast has instructions on his website
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for using his spellup plugin
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tensaw Tech: when I copy over the plugin from my old world file it just doens't work basically
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure that your prompts both end in %c and that you don't have promptflags enabled
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: actually, didn't Lasher fix that already?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yep thats been fixed
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe promptflags has
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you still need to add %c
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, if you have a prompt ending in %c, then promptflags will be before it rather than breaking it by being after it and remaining unterminated
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: anyone know of a good spellup script for tintin? prefer one that uses gmcp.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Can't use GMCP for spellups
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: ahh didnt realize they hadnt added spells yet.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although a good spellup script should use GMCP to know when you're in a state where you can cast ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if position = 3 and have fair amount of mana and in a room that's not nomagic, then cast
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, #if { == 3} {nother if {nother if {cast this}}}
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, #if {$GMCP[CHAR][STATUS][position] == 3} {nother if {nother if {cast this}}}
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, you have to watch for certain transitions... you don't want to spellup when it goes from 12 to 3
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I certainly want to cast spellup spells when it goes from 12 to 3
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: my zmud has 2 windows. one main (maximised) and one smaller for channels (from fiendish) every thing i switched windows to another program and back, the active is always the small channel window. is there a way to set the default as my main window?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: window focus is based on the last operation done, which in ZMud consists of the #WINDOW command, #CAPTURE command, :windowname:stuff, and windowname:stuff.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if I remember right, :windowname:stuff is the only way to do stuff to windows without changing focus.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in closing, no, there's no way to set window focus to some specific window for ALT-TAB purposes.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: oh yes focus is the right word.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: actually on my netbook (win xp) alt tab and back it goes back to the last focused window
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: also, just because you are in a different program doesn't mean your scripts stop working. If your window focus ended up in a different window than it was in last time, it was probably because of a script.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: only on my laptop. (win 7) I am thinking it might be some of the issues with zmud on newer windows version
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i dont have any script except for the chan window to filter all chan out if thats even considered a script
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it is
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anything you see in the Settings Editor is considered a script.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: but oh well i can live with that. just that whenever i alt tab i need to click to focus main window before i can type anything
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Massacrer Macbeth nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: thanks (:
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's the only Redneck Sport
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, gmcp.group doesn't update the 'leader' field when you group promote.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Can anyone confirm this?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Neverming, scripting error on my part.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: anyone know how to set up a client side gag for mushclient?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: make trigger, check "omit from output" box
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: 0h 4
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: oops
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: and just put whatever i dont want to see in the trigger name box?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What trigger name box?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the default matching style is glob, unless you check the regular expression checkbox
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: oh ok. and what should i put in send to?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You're making this a lot more complicated than it has to be
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: lol im sorry.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Put the stuff to match in the "Trigger" box, and click "Omit from Output", then STOP
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, then click OK ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Right, what he said
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: i dont convert it?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never convert it
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either make a glob or make a regexp, never convert
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: ok idk wtf a glob is
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: glob is always anchored, and uses * for wildcard
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think you can use ? to match a single character in glob, too
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I could be wrong on that though
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you type "You are thirsty", it would have to match the ENTIRE line unless you used * at the beginning and the end
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, you'd just need * at the end.. It's anchored, remember?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whereas regular expressions can match partial lines and you have to work to anchor them
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: oh ok...so if i wanted it to block out something someone said i would have to use * and * ? so like *popcorn*
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That would gag any line with the word popcorn in it
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but ignore handles that already
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: no it doesnt
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: why are you just not using ignore?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: but thank you! thats what i want.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: i am using ignore. i dont want to his name on -h or on my ftalk from others.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It wouldn't use word boundaries though.. *popcorn* matches "popcorn" "popcorns" "123popcorn456"
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't just gag things that they say, it'll gag anywhere that the text exists, including someone else using their name, including them attacking you in a war, etc
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: damn lol, who is it ?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: thats fine. thats what i want.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: they dont need to exist ever again.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Remember the good old days years ago when someone let it slip they had someone gagged, and we could all talk about them on public channels just by including the name somewhere in what we said? Good times.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, much better that you do that than you grow up...
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: wow, not to let them exist anywhere
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: lol :P
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: sounds evil
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: what happens if you get PKd by someone you gagged... lol invisible death
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup sheni
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah, pretty much
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blanket gagging isn't smart
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: might make raids fun :P
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: good thing im nopk :D
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I know wrong channel, sry. Can a NOPK still be set wanted ?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've been in 20 wars so far...
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without them setting someone else wanted or getting revenge flag
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can TOTALLY understand wanting to blanket ignore someone
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: understand wanting to, yes...that doesn't affect it not being a smart thing to do...many of the things we as people want aren't smart
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've not noticed a popcorn yet.. i'll keep my eyes peeled
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You offer Winkle-2000 Idiocy Machine and Smurf Crusher some HOT, FRESH....POPCORN!
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: it says it contains an invalid path
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What says what contains an invalid path?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what contains an invalid path?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggers don't have paths, unless you told it to make a sound and it needs a path to a sound file
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: when i click ok, then click close..it says some weird { } stuff then says contains an invalid path
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: and it doesnt work
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you running Mushclient off a flash drive, and removed that drive without closing mushclient first?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: what is that "weird { } stuff"? Sounds important
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If it was important, they wouldn't have put those stupid {} marks around it, right?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: right lol
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: do you need to know what it said?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: C/P the {} stuff to pastebin, we need that stuff
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: the WHOLE error
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: it was the same string you gave me cheez on ftalk with the #sub and everything...but i didnt enter that anywhere.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your trigger pattern is just *Abelinc*, with the checkboxes being Enabled, Omit from Output and no others, the Send: blank, the Send To: as World, Sequence 100, Copy wildcard (none) and all others blank
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: its in a box :P hard tocnp. but i will. 1 min
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh, that was for tt++, it won't work for you
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: #sub isn't a MUSHclient thing
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ^{2}[etzliETZLI]+$ would be the regexp match
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not a good one
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't do what she's trying to do
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Never said it was 'good' just that it would work
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: how about checking "ignore case"?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it won't
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cheez you wouldn't want to match like that
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: #sub {{3}[popcornPOPCORN]*}}{} contains an invalid path.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Like i said, #sub won't work in tt++
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: with only omit from output checked
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Enough with the popcorn, just say who it is ! :p
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: won't work in mush
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Etzli
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: right but i didnt put that in. i just put *popcorn*
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez already said who :P
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: She wants remove every occurance of his name
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: don't mess with regex without proper testing, especially when doing things as global gag
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ahh lol
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: hes lying :P
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: im gagging out him! lol
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no he isn't
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: lol anyway
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you don't want to match characters blindly inside []
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: seeming I dont know either person, doesnt matter much. Just bored from the grind and this is all the entertainment atm
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: lol alright well
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Isn't [] for a range of characters? Not words
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yep
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: no, [a-z] is a range
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan is agreeing with that Birdbrain Metria person again...
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: the '-' notates a range
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's creating a character class
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you'd want to do an ignore case and jsut use popcorn
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: [asdf] is a range too, contains 4 characters => matches ONE character, if it is one of those four
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but making it an regexp, then anchoring it, will make it not work
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or failing that you'd want (popcorn|POPCORN|Popcorn)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Except, she wants every case of every letter, and she also wants to remove the 'short' form of the name, any/all if possible
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: ok all this talk is very confusing.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: i can just gag out pop and popcorn in 2 seperate triggers. thats fine.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So she'd want to remove 'pop' 'popc' 'popco' 'popcor' and 'popcorn'
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and your regexp wouldn't even block him talking on channels
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: i just want it to work
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, good point
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: We need Apple Regex
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: remove the beginning anchor for starters
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: ok
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and would not only remove popc, but also corp
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ahhh, true
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: i got the same invalid path error
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: need to remove all anchors
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Can brute force gag it with (pop|popc|popco|popcor|popcorn)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: and check 'ignore case'
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: oh
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: ya know what?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smack dhat Ashlynn Tech: forget that error message. it was from something else.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I know what... too much work for something so petty
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pety? This Popcorn is a menace to society!
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Have you ever had a handful of popcorn and you bite into an unpopped kernel?? That's a MENACE all right
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh no! i love those!
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: is it wrong to setup a trigger so every instance of escobar is replaced with escofoo
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actually recommended
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Escobooboo imo
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus smiles at you.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is there a way to make text in the output window of Mushclient into a clickable link/action?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: OK, how?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardwolf_helplist.xml plugin is a good example of how to make clickable link text
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'll take a look, thanks.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the gmcp mapper plugin has hyperlinks
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it different to do hyperlinked text than clickable regions, though?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm looking to tweak the mapper plugin so mapper area returns clickable room numbers. It's damn scary to run to Xyl's Mosaic at my level due to a typo :/
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Although, come to think of it, Xyl's Mosaic sucks at any level..
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: unless you're running straight to the rose ether, there's no real danger of aggro in Xyl that I've seen
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nod, now forgetting whether "heroes" is my alias to call to heroes or realm of evil heroes, that's not good ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Good to know.. but that's not the first time I've done that (typo'd a room number)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: eww, room numbers. Can you assign shortnames? Would seem to me that text would be a bit better if at any point you'd have/want to rebuild the map database.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Oh, jeez no, I don't want to give every room I might need to get to a name..
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the mapper already gives them a number and a name, so it's not really an either/or proposition
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What names are you talking about, Abelinc?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: every room has a name and number in the database
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: room names...when talking about rooms in the mapper, they have room names :P
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes, but the room names are not useful when using mapper goto
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they are when using mapper find
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: (facepalm) Yes... Which you then use... (wait for it) a ROOM NUMBER to get to
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you get the name first
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: questor doesn't send you to 16347
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: ... I already have the name. That's sort of how I know where I want to go.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the output of mapper find is already clickable links
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there ya go :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's very easy to typo a number and not notice
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish has already thought of everything
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well son of a beeyotch.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: since fiendish is here, i'll make a suggestion
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make your suggestions somewhere that I can actually keep track of them.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: are the results of the mapper find actually saved in a variable somewhere, or just displayed?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like on the website for making suggestions
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cause if they are, you could make an alias to run to the first room in that list
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and then the second, third, etc. when you execute it again
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and if they aren't, you can make it so they aren't..
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, btw, protip: "mapper resume" works if your run gets interrupted. it recalls the destination you last tried to run to.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a player could make a 'feeling lucky' alias if they wanted
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: erm... are...
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think that's undocumented
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: chuckle
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ohhhh good one, Fiendish
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus whispers softly to Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I take back all those things I said about you, Fiendish.
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose at some point I'll add it to the help command
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you guys get advanced knowledge for resting at the feet of greatness
T3/r2/2011-02-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or something like that
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know why paging no longer has a sound?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it doesn't?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: not on mush, no.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no sound
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did it ever?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, it used to in the old version before plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: it used to beep for me
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: maybe you need to set it?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no idea how to do it =P
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's actually a very good questoin
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mind sending me a page?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: ok, beep isn't working anymore
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: weird... it used to
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks. hold on.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: it didn't work once the plugins came out on Mush.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: check appearance -> output -> Enable beeps (and it must have some sound file selected)
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it works for me if I page myself, but I don't have the official client, only few plugins from it that I liked.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you get a bell character if you page yourself?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: setting the enable beeps file does not seem to work in linux
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I mean...it works
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the test button works, but paging doesn't trigger it
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: maybe the page doesn't send a beep anymore?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huan says it does
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I just tried with triggers and trigger sounds disabled, and it still works
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case you can set up a simple sound trigger
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe a regex pattern of "^\w+ pages you '.*'$" without the quotation marks, and then browse for a sound file to play
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think that should work
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK, I just boggled. Where is the best information on how to seriously program MUSHClient? How to access script variables, how to access gmcp table info, how to call a function from a trigger or alias, etc..
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks. I am going to chill and read. Appreciate it.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the best way to learn how to do things is to look at plugins that people have already made
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i'm using the newest version of mush that's on the website with the updates. i'm trying to create a new world for test port, and once i do that successfully, when i close mush i am not able to open the test port world - it simply isn't under 'worlds' (only aardwolf is. i named the world something different, so there should be two different worlds i'd imagine?) - how can i fix this/what am i doing wrong?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: new worlds are not placed to the quick links automatically. You have to use plain old "Open World..." and find the .mcl file
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nod. i do file -> open world -> the world file comes up -> the only thing that shows is the plugin directory and the aardwolf file
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: errr world folder
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: did you save the new world? I don't remember exactly... but "New World" should open new world window and lets you use it, but you have to "save as" to keep it for next time
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm let me see
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: woot! thanks so much!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I seem to have lost my spellup miniwindow -- tried looking under everything else. Anyone got any advice?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone use/own an AppleTV?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ok, upgraded to Aardwolf client instead of stock MUSHClient and there are timestamps on the left side of the window that I don't want. How can I remove?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: are you talking about the chat capture?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Which window, the comm window? right-click timestamp toggle it off
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the chat window
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hey, didn't know you could do that
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when in doubt in the new aard client, right click...tons of options that way
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec turns the timestamps on
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, actually I'm in the process of getting it to work so no plugins are loaded.. but still timestamp on left
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: So I assumed it was a MUSHClient setting
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is, but one which is best controlled by the plugin :P
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellHex Tech: is there someone available to hel
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellHex Tech: help*
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What do you need help with?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellHex Tech: my map on the client doesnt refresh is there a fix
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: dunno, I don't use MUSHclient
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you have map tags on?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellHex Tech: im not sure if it is on how do i check
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: type tags
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need the map one on, and also the global option (at the bottom) on
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-|Cabal|- Hodor Tech: Is there a mushclient plugin out there that contains speedwalks, and lets me substitute portals for those places where I have them?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellHex Tech: it says my global is on but by map it says "no" in red
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's the gmcp mapper, hodor
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: type 'tags map on'
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellHex Tech: thank you for the help all maps seem to be working
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul smiles happily.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: how does one play aard on iphone, help!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: get a client
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google for one
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: which one?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 10 bucks there's a client named iMud :P
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Know iphone, probably be shelling out $100 for an app ;p /stab
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Figured I'd give it a shot...:) Anyone have an extra LEGAL Windows 7 license key?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra rant rant Linux rant FreeBSD rant Haiku rant
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: haaha
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: inux + 1
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sure it's 7HI5-1SN0-7$R34L-K3Y!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra -D
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: is it sad I know how to read that?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: nope, else i'll be sad too
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's almost as if it's commenting about it's own validity...
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: self-validation, a sad sight to behold indeed.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol cryyyy nerds!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does anyone here use the aardwolf mushclient package on windows 7?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: perhaps even specifically windows 7 home basic?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone using Bast's latest plugins? Specifically the PotionQuaffer?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what issue are you having with it? It's not actually bast's, but was made by bottomfeeder and is getting pretty old
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well now that I've added into the latest Aardwolf client, anytime I buy any potions using the "buy # heal" command, I get 2 blank lines for each one I buy... very spammy. Didn't do that in my stock MUSH
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Not to mention the prompt after each blank
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try turning off invmon, unless you're using it for something else
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I don't believe I'm using it. It seems to be captured away... but none of these plugins do anything with that data as far as I can tell. I'll give it a shot, thanks.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: yep it was invmon spam
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: I just tried turning mine on and it helped
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another thing is to turn off statmon
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: err off to see if it spammed
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: On the mush mapper, can you make a customer exit for multiline command, like say foo;say bar;say enter portal, as an example?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Have that off. I guess it was invmon. Not sure what's capturing it... hmm...
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: custom*
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh.... broadcast_inventory... yeah, not using that.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you can't, try using an alias
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, say great ; sit car ; st...good example of where that'd be nice
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: or the middles in Dortmund ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: riddles too
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I just kill her
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Meh, I just say ring... *shrug*
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: room scripts are nice
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: doesn't feel right, gotta do the riddles! ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you try doing "mapper cexit one ; two" to see if that works?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I did before, just sends semi
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I could have it call a server side alias, haven't tried a mush alias
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, then probably needs manual massaging to get it to work (other than the aforementioned create alias method)
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: server side alias won't work
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDside aliases can only be a single command...there is no ; parsing
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there should be ;)
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Question: with the free version of Anti-Malware Bytes, is automated scanning included? (i.e. AMB will scans for malware without my interaction)
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: am able to connect to aard, and itunes can connect but firefox just shows a loading bar (green) at the bottom, and if i try to go anywhere other than start page it just gets 'stopped' any ideas?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dns?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what about other browsers? could be dns
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Proxy? SOCKS? Spyware?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: less hes connecting to ip directly dns would be working to connect eh
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: proxy is disabled like normal, no spy/malware
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: IE opens fine
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: just firefox messing up
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: if ie works and ff isnt sounds like proxy in ff settings
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If you're using Windows, if FF enabled in the windows firewall?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: windows firewall is disabled
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you CAN have multiple commands in custom mapper exits, you just have to double up the semicolons like say hello guvna!;;sleep bed;;wake;;open west
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient a double semicolon as one literal semicolon
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which then gets executed later on as a line break
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient treats
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: any Mac users here?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sometimes
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: has the quest plugin been removed from the new mushclient version? I didn't see it.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: One isn't included, you had to get that elsewhere
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I've looked on the website but its not listed under the extra plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Try the bast plugins, there's one in there
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is no official quest plugin. bast has one that you may enjoy
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: Nod I am referring to the one in the old version of aardclient, its strangely MIA in this new version.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you sure there was one in there officially?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and that you didn't just add it yourself?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: it was pre-included, yes.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well in any case, the new client package doesn't include any plugin that requires another world file, and Bast already had one available
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or something like that
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also stop botting your quests :)
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: eh?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: any Mac users/experts here?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: how do I make two commands in a trigger? I am wanting to cast a spell and hold something right after casting.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: What client?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Also, are you sure you mean trigger?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: mush
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kathie Lee Nibbly Tech: sounds like an alias?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: A trigger responds to incoming text.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: yes a trigger for my flame blade
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: put the seocnd command ont he second line int he large text box
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: so a seperater or nothing special is needed
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no separator, just hit enter
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why the action box is so big
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: Ok, thank you
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Actually, you probably do want a trigger, if flame blade outputs something upon success - that way, you cast it, it sends the output (when it succeeds), then you trigger off that and wield it.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Otherwise, if you fail casting it, you'll be trying to wield something that doesn't exist yet.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pedwiddle speak the truth
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: firefox will go to a favorite page, but when i try to go to a link on one of those it tells me its in offline mode (though its not), anyone know wtf is going on?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, your favorite page could very well just be a cached copy
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: its current, (facebook, hulu, ect)
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How do you know it is NOT in offline mode?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: file -> 'offline mode' is not checked.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: repair on wireless network returned 'could not clear netbt' what is that?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: OS?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: xp pro
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: any idea?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm not sure actually
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the "windows" repair is pretty useless
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: i concur
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you're better off rebooting
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tezaal agrees!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: How might I match a variable amount of spaces in a regexp?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: regex! my fave
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: \s+
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: awww!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can use s{#,#} to specify a range of spaces to match
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: \s that is
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: also-- + means 1 or more, * includes 0
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Nah, I don't know how many spaces there will be.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: + is better when you know there will be at least one space... prevents unwanted matches
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "*@mob *" used to match the "where @mob" message.. but isn't now... hmmm
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I tried "*@mob\s+*" but that doesn't work either
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: do you have "expand wildcards" option selected?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Expand variables? Yes
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: sorry, expand variables... also, what are those '*' doing there? * at the beginning of regex doesn't make sense. In the best case it tries to match it as literal, if it isn't giving syntax error.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The * in the beginning allows you to match "cow" "a cow" "a lazy, stupid cow" by entering just cow.... and the second one matches the room it's in
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: what's the interpreter this is going through?..
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: normally, pcre for match-anything would be .*
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUSH trigger
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: regex are not anchored. If you wanted to be explicit about it, you need to use .* to match "anything"
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: o.0 mushclient triggers are... awkward
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: but as long as you make it a regex match instead of a normal match, you should be good to go
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: see http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/funwithtriggers.htm
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: so if it's a regex trigger, you need the .* -- if it's a "normal" trigger, just *
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it it is normal trigger, the \s+ part won't work
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: if*
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: OH! Just kidding.. I made it work with just regular trigger... but now its not working because I don't believe the newest mapper strips beginning spaces from its "mapper find " command
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that is correct
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Essentially capture a "where " line from the MUD. Specifically capture the room it says it's in
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ah. I have that.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have an alias for where and a disabled trigger that gets enabled only until it catches the next line from the mud after calling where
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's what I have, but my previous trigger no longer works.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the trigger pattern is ^(.{29})(.+)$
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: %1 is then the room name
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: %1 is Sokic!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh. Just take out the mob selection completely
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well it's either the room name or "There is no blah blah"
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so I do if not string.find("%1","There is no") then
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Right, I have a check for that already.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not the most robust system, but it works usually the first time
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and if it messes up I just do it again
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Nice. It works perfectly. Thanks!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I want to make an alias so i can just type something like "k scroll" and it replaces K for put (wildcard) in bag. How might I go about doing this in MUSHclient?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: that was poorly worded, heh. I want K to be "Put * in bag" but just type game-side "k scroll"
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Although, I believe you said %1 would be the roomname, which I think should be %2?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Tezaal: make an alias with the match text "k *" and in the body, use "put %1 in bag"
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: DOH! I should have known that, must have a brain fart atm.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: And, of course, if you ever want to use k for kill, you'll have to use " k "
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod K was just an example as I was typing that stupid question lol. If you need me, I'll be in the corner with the bottle of cyanide and rusty razor.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: wow, why is there not a single pop up blocker add on for firefox? the built in one is less than adequate.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: noscript and adblocker are firefox plugins which help
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Err, adblocker plus
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yea ad-block plus blocks ads ON the page, I'm dealing with alot of websites that have pop-unders, and since I'm on a dual-monitor setup I get teh webpage in one monitor, the ad in the other!!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wow, what kind of crappy ass end of the internet are you browsing?
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm using fiber-optic internet.
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Try noscript
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: oh, what website? a few different ones, but atm its the local news website!!
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: must be the unfashionable part of the western spiral arm of the internet....
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: no, just a poorly-developed local news website. They must have hired an 8th grader to code it, I find typos in -every single article-
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: And yet you keep going back to it..
T3/r2/2011-02-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: unfortunately the only source of truly -local- news I've found.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: How do I multiply in LUA script in a MUSH trigger?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Multiplication. I want to multiply two numbers and send them as a command to the MUD
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: 1 ?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: [1*1] ?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, brackets.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or %eval(1*1)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: %eval would not be mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ah sorries didnt see that it was for mush
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, I also suspect that I'm attempting to interpret a string as a number and multiply it...
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just use tonumber(blahblah)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but in most instances lua should auto compute
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well 20 * %1 doesn't seem to work right.. ,)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is %1?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: %1 would be a number captured
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: #Note(12 * "10") => 120
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: print (20*tonumber(%1))
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: AHHH... I'm sorry. 20 * %1 was working just fine... I was using too many periods for concantenate
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, fiendish here?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, does anyone else happen to know why the gmcp mapper in mush doesn't seem to handle consecutive same custom exits properly?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: it runs the goto command before entering the custom exit
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: eg, for zangar amethyst sea, if you store the slither forward custom exits
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: i think
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it'll only send 1 slither forward rather than 2
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need to explain more
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean the same command twice?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let me finish my quest and I'll look into it
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: room 1 - slither forward -> room 2 - slither forward -> room 3
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you're either doing it wrong or the third room is nomap
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just did mapper cexit south;south;south;south and it worked
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try mapper cexit run s, a few times, head north a bunch, and goto the last room
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what did I just say I did?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh, you mean you stacked it in the same cexit?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you store them as separate cexits it won't work properly
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok hold on
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm going to find this zangar place
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it works the same with the south south thing, the problem only arises if you store multiple cexits
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I need to find this slither forward place
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the find command also works find if you run it from the first room where the cexit chain starts
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's just that if it's before that, it'll only send once
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just tested using south south south and it has the same effect
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well for now you can use mapper resume when it stops, I guess
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: varying the name slightly will also work if there are alternatives
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so it's just if the name repeats?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: should be easy to track down then. hold on
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: run s, ru s, run s, ru s as a chain will work for example
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it looks like it's only every other one, then
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: odd
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: couldn't figure it out, it's probably not a major issue since chaining is pretty rare
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: now that the search algorithm is much faster, i'm considering getting rid of the limit on search depth
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I don't know if there's actually anything 300 rooms away from anything else
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: heh, i don't know if it even makes a difference, i think you can get to almost any room in 300 rooms
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think so far my longest path was 78 rooms, and that returned instantly
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: longest i can think of would be running to wyrm with no amulet from recall?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: would be less than a hundred i think
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: correction, 121
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: problem solved
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: where was it?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: build_speedwalk in aardmapper.lua
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's the part that takes things like eeennnnsss and turns it into 3e3n3s
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: new_command?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I actually changed before that
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i see
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: from if speed [n].dir == dir.dir then to if expand_direction[dir.dir] ~= nil and tspeed [n].dir == dir.dir then
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because it should not join nonstandard exits
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because it thought it was a normal direction so it became 2slither forward?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: was looking at wrong part :p
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks!
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well it would have been "2slither through" except for the check on if #dir.dir == 1 then later on
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which explicitly prevents that
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know how to select the room name when you where a mob as a wildcard?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: we had a conversation about that earlier today
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: with me? this is the first time I'm asking =(
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not with you
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess it's not in tech -h anymore
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a reasonable trigger pattern to use is ^(.{29})(.+)$
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the rest is left as an exercise for you
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks =D
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: how do I set a trigger to run only once?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you want it to delete itself or disable?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: just disable
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: I'm using mush, and I'm using the normal trigger thingy available
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: name the trigger, then #t-
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: at the end of the trigger
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, how do you use name the trigger? use the label field?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: not sure about mush, but in zmud its the ID field
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes, the label fields.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: -s
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks!
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sometimes I wish well-meaning government agencies... wouldn't
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: which is why we end up with open source = lots of buges -> nobody to fix them
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and Google are equally to blame on this
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've read most of Linux kernel is written by paid programmers
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shame none of the mapping community seem to be
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're up to subversion 4 of google maps v3 and it's riddled with flaws. UK's Ordnance Survey are up to 1.2 of their openmaps, but can't get something as simple as correct placement of tiles after a zoom, or correct conversion of pixel position to map position correct
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: makes any kind of development on these systems nigh on impossible
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but the clincher is that, as these facilities are based on an open-source model, nobody take responsibility for the bugs, so nothing ever gets fixed in a reasonable amount of time
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: see: excuses
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Wellll
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'd say you can manage closed-source and open-source projects equally poorly
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: To me, the question is, who pays
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If nobody pays, nobody's obliged to fix bugs either
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in the former case, everybody, in the latter case, british tax payers
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're willing to pay, well, I guess then somebody pops up to fix the bugs.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: even payment is no guarantee
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If nobody pops up, this means the payers should contact the original developers with offer
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oh, but it is
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you can't get the original devs, find some random guy to work on it. Problem solved.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there are good grounds for just shutting google down completely
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, paying local developers is better for your economy than sending your money overseas
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you're not willing to pay, perhaps you're understanging "open-source" as "cool, free stuff!"
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Which is mostly correct, of course, but not the way to do business.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if a government agency removes one method of maptool and replaces it with another, you expect it to work
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I much prefer something that's basic bu reliable over something that's shiney but broken, I can't see why other think otherwise
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Interesting, think this i'll work mudding by playing purely on speech input/output
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Ie the mud is read to you, and then you say what you want to do :)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: So we can mud from bed with a migraine :p
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and fall foul of botting rules
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can hug a wireless keyboard while you talk
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Since when is using speech input considered botting?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think speech input is botting
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: speech input is a handicap
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I agree
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'd never use it
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I'm having a severe migraine now, what made me think of it , it's ebbing away now luckily
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: provided you don't have any kind of other assistave scripting there, fine
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: At the height, I am handicapped, there's no quick getting of anything, only subtle moves or PAIN! :)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wouldn't be very efficient
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, smart people don't talk about their scripts
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is that a common problem?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: True, but it'd be something to do while lying on my back :)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: if anything I could have it read out gossip or something for fun (wachting things that give off light is also PAIN! )
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: drop some acid, it helps
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I finally took a heavy pain killer yeah and a 30 min shower, it's now a normal headache
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Instead of talking about it, let's see if I could get it to read out tells or gossip :)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: drink water and sit in childs pose
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I did that last thing, but only because it seemed to be only tolerable position besides standing with my head in my neck staring at the ceiling
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah childs pose is magic. thing is it also slowly increases blood flow to head which doesnt exactly help
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: migraines are horrible
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Yeag I hate the nausea the most
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: The painkillers that are taken anally are awesome for that (they don't add to the nausea)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: supository
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Yeah that was the word I was looking for.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there a mush command to send something without parsing it first?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: How do I go about making a song start up on a trigger?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Is it #play?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: then "c:/xxx" etc?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: assuming you're using z/cmud
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i put the soundfiles in the folder. just #play whatever.wav works
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: so, #play "c;/music/example
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Which folder?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nack Tech: aardwould mashclient has a music player?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud folder
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Any directory in specific? Or just in the folder
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: we're talking zugg client, right?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: install dir
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Cool Thanks man :)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: where the exe/bin is
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Ok lmao, after its going, how do I stop it? :P #stop doesn't work
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone know how to terminate a trigger within the MUSHclient's own interface, without unchecking the enable box?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: use EnableTrigger
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: is it possible to merge two mapper databases?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: using zonecopy yes
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ah okay google time thanks!
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: is zonecopy useable for mush as well?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: think zonecopy is a zmud thing
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is possible to merge two mapper databases with a little bit of sqlite work
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: redryn your suggested fix for the color bug is not quite right
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use this instead "@[^@cmyrgbwCMYRGBWD]"
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh yea, good point. thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: otherwise you'll run into the black color code and stuff
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: actually don't need to include @, since that's already stripped one line above
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: doesn't hurt to have it there
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since there won't be any
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, wouldn't affect anything, but it saves one byte!!1
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using Bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shazar laughs out loud at Bastion.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: lol shazar =D
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: fail
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ask away
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Bast, the miniwin tabber isn't showing spellups even though its open.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, that version does not go into the tabbar because it isn't based on my miniwindow code, v6 will go in that tabbar
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, I see. Okay, another question, broadcast_runto doesn't want to load
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: paste the error to pastebin.com and tell me the url
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I'm not sure what broadcast_runto is used for, but would it make sense to also put an "if gmcp status = 12, running" into it?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that one actually starts runto when you see the "Running To" so it includes the runprefix, whereas the gmcp stuff doesn't include the runprefix
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, I see what it's looking for currently...my question is more, what is relying on it...what is the application
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is for my auto wear regen plugin, I didn't want to wear the regen in the aardhotel if I was just passing through
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, then yeah, no point seeing when you're running other than runtos
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: So I was added Bast's plugins manually, just wanted a few, cp/gq/quest/spellup, added the broadcast/miniwin plugins, I got the spellup miniwindow, but don't seem to have cp/gq/quest, theyy've not covered by other miniwindows either
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: you need to be on a cp/gq/gquest first
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I am
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: and since cp check is hidden from game window, it's going somewhere ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mcp CP toggle
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: even with the plugin I can see cp check normally
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: that shows me the help window, but not the mob list
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: try killing a mob on the cplist, mine showed up after that.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: nope, guess I'll copy all the files, guess i'm missing a support file
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you got the help popup you have all the support files
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type mcp help, then look at objects and then type mcp "object" toggle, where object is the exact case of what is in the window
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: got it, case sensitive
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone use the Sharp Tracker? Any idea why I get these errors? http://pastebin.com/P2QxmTSs
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like he's just not initializing the value of the variables
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on load, it should have an if variable doesn't exist, set variable 0
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay. Thanks =D
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you know if you use the original one or the modified one from the comli site?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kuro: it looks like, rather than doing sanity checking/initializing variables automatically, opo set it up to have you initialize the sharptracker by typing "#startup"
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, my mistake, forgot about it, thanks =D
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: when you told me it wasn't initialized I realised I forgot to start it =(
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: So what can I do to auto-toggle Bast's cp window when I request a campaign
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Or just keep it on all the time, regardless of if I'm on campaign or not
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I believe if you hit the X button, and just have it in the tabs it will auto-open when you get a cp
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Countess Cagliostro Tech: anyone familiar with prolog?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Bast's CP plugin for MUSH, I've tried a bunch of stuff.... I'd like the miniwindow to never close, barring that, I'd like it to show up when I take a campaign... not sure what I've done to mess it up, but I have to 'mcp CP toggle' everytime I take a campaign to get it to show
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Countess Cagliostro Tech: anybody here familiar with prolog?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: how do i set zmud to include colour when i copy from my log?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: can a if function in lua support a else and a or function in the same prog?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uh...of course
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Unless I'm totally misunderstanding.. What are you trying to do?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yeah, each program can have an unlimited number and instance of commands used
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/4.3.1.html
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: so after i write the if (this happens) do this (else) do this or this depending which if not(taskseen functuin meets true
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: please ask questions in englihs
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ugh
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in english
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: WTF? You mean if / else if / else?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: dunno if LUA has one, but he's looking for an IF THEN...ELSEIF...ELSE construct
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: its for a mobprog so i am trying to not just blurt out the whole thing ok lets try this
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: that sounds right dokkar
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just do it in pseudocode, you dont' have to give exact strings or whatever.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: at any rate, I'm fairly sure LUA is much more advanced than that, so also include in your search SELECT, SWITCH, or even CASE.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Hopefully a switch would include a case.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos goes, "Heh."
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: Can we put this in terms of widgets?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: since I'm not familiar with lua syntax and command offerings, I cannot guarantee the names of the commands, so I'm trying to offer suggestions based on my related experience in other languages.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why don't you ask for help with mob progs on the builder port?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: crap i just got my self confused
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is there really anyone ever there?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: cause everyones alseep there i think
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then post a note?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: http:/www.lua.org/pil/4.3.1.html ?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: thnks grasshacker
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: just what i needed
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's the same link I posted 2 minutes ago
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grasshacker Tech: google("lua if else")
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: sry didnt see it in between switchin screens
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tech -h 30
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grasshacker grins evilly.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you should know better, Fiendish. The best way to get someone to not take advice is to point them to a helpfile. :)
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's why I don't include help files with the client package
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish winks suggestively.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: from what I can see, Lua supports switch and not case, but switch is not what you would expect.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: switch/case are two words parts of doing the same thing
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KevinRoberts Tech: you know about looa I have looked at some code for mush client before at a script I had and some of that can get complex
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's probably more from possible unfamiliarity than actual complexity.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depends what he was looking at
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and from whom. Habit and obfuscation can ruin some otherwise great code.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anywho, which section of the manual does the lua switch reside in?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it' sprobably under a section entitled "Switch statements"
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: or something about logical operations
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lua doesn't have a switch statement
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ode Tech: it shouldn't, but i don't use it at all
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: here's a page that talks about making one yourself, which will not help you at all. http://lua-users.org/wiki/SwitchStatement
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: MUSHclient question, Bast CP tracker... I dunno what I did, but I can't get the CP window to show up when I take a cp, I have to do 'mcp CP toggle' each time. I'm familar with lua a bit, but can't see where the window even gets hidden, I'd prefer it stay up at all times, any have this problem?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: the quest and CP windows don't show for me in the new version either.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Quest window stay up (mquest Quest toggle), but it's not up at login, cp is stubborn
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: could someone help me to get my CP miniwindow plugin working?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I downloaded the package of basts' plugins from his google code page, i have the quest one working, but the CP one wont show up when I enable it.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I know it is loaded + working because it has gaged the cp check info from my output
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: does typing 'mcp CP toggle' work?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: indeed!
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you request the cp before you installed the plugin?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: thanks1
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yes I did myrkul, that mcp CP toggle worked
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, bet that's why it wasn't originally though
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You'll need to do it everytime you start a cp, I'm having that issue
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I think its because these plugins were for the old version of the custom client, and they released the new version.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I know on teh old client they worked like butter
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I know Bast mentioned he's working on v6
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i thought bast updated all his plugins...
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod hey, beggers can't be choosers
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: not sure myrkul, all the plugins in this new client have fiendish as the author in the plugin list...
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well yes, because fiendish made the new client
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but that doesn't mean bast's plugins won't work with it
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: Myrkul you on this chan?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: I would love to have wine on my mac... what download should I use?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: google it? :P
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: makes sense
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: makes sense :P
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Darwine's one option.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't use a mac/wine, but i'm sure it can't be too hard to find :P
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Pony up some cash and get Crossover, it rocks.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: in another mud I've played, one of the mushclient fanatics used a virtual machine with window son it just to run mush natively on his mac.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You can also get the standard wine through macports or probably fink.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: I did macports
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: but the client did strange things
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: like, background colors all messed up
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yeah, I tried running mushclient the other day in the macports wine and I got those results.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I haven't tried it with Darwine yet.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: I would love to have zMud on my intel macbook
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: But it might do a bit better. They didn't behave excactly the same way when I'd been trying both in the past on other apps.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I wonder why so many people go on and on about how good ZMud is, given that it's older than Windows 95 and is more full of bugs than a demo version of Windows living on Bill Gates's PC.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: zmud seems to run in macports wine just fine
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: most users probably don't use it in an advanced enough way to run into the bugs
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: People don't like change, and don't like to think they've made a bad purchase. Therefore, they will continue using zmud, and they will continue to delude themselves that it is the shiznit.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: I'm just using zMud because 10 years ago I bought it.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: people like what they like
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: 90% of the stupid arguments on the internet are over people being annoying that other people like things that they do not like :P
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: unless you are saying that most zmud users are using zmud as a (paid-for) version of straight telnet, they've run into a whole mountain of bugs.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: maybe I spoke too soon.. seems to be stuck on 'initializng'
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, from your statement one could infer that the bugs haven't been fixed, which is not the case.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: i've not remembered ever running into bugs using basic macros and triggers that used to be way way above telnet playing
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: the scrollback was miles ahead for one thing
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: and saving the ip of the mud...
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: these fancy clients arent that fancy.. just ansi color capable telnet clients with some regexp parsing of incoming and outgoing text.. big whoop
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: ah yes and ansi colour
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they're there. A whole section of them can even manifest just by opening and closing ZMud.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Saving the IP of the MUD is a bug, not a feature if you ask me..
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, then, other than straight telnet, all clients fall under the category of "fancy".
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: true, true
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: trying to see if winebottler will work for the aardwolf client
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Wow, yet another flavor of wine...
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: is it a merlot?
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I'm not a super-taster, so I wouldn't claim to be able to tell.
T3/r2/2011-02-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: No idea what the differences between all these distros for mac are.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: woot, wineskin wrapper works wonderfully with the official client, soo far :)
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: How to create an alias in mushclient ?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Anyone know ?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: erm Duckbat, just press alt enter
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: on the left, there should be Input, then click on alias
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I don't have mushclient I just want to know so I can write alias for others
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Is there some command to do it ?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, not too sure, sorry. I use the client GUI to do it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: read this: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=aliases
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krion Tech: If you are looking to add an alias programmatically (via a script or plugin), see http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=AddAlias
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: also the client's help alias has the documentation and some examples.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh..... JUST an alias? No. There is not a comand... but the technique is just the same as a trigger. What do you want to do?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I want to write aliases to run to areas for example in zMud one could just type #alias {something} {somethingelse}
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's not quite so easy in Mush... though you could write an alias to simplify writing aliases to the syntax you'd like.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Hmm okay I'll just make aliases for zMud users then :P
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, MUSH aliases behave the same way, essentially.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: anyone know why my mush would eat up more and more memory the longer its on? I run bast mush and when I turn it on its about 40,000 kb, right now its 300,000 kb
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: output buffer
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: I blame the internet
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it could be 200 to 500k lines, I have no idea what the default setting is
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: wouldn't that usually have a limit, huan?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: its downloading porn without your knowledge
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: my buffer is only 5k
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: surely a buffer of 5k isn't the problem? that seems pretty low
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I have no idea then, 5k should be small enough
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: script with memory leak somewhere?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: how would I figure that out?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: or, how would I find it?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: disable everything and see if it stops increasing i suppose
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think there was a problem in zmud like that too
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not really sure, sorry
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: thanks, I guess I'll leave it on tonight with everything off and see what happens
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I don't know of way to detect memory leaks, other than what redryn said. Kill all the plugins, see if it stops. If it does, enable half of them...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I ended up with that too did you check 1) under all windows 2) reset coords all windows maybe its off screen
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: 3) reintall the tabs plugin and then the cp window
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In Visual Studio, you can dereference a NULL pointer with impunity. MFC uses it a lot....
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: anyone have any idea why my cpmob tracker is missing the first mob? using the bast plugin
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Do you have a carriage return at the end of your prompt?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: what's that?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Carriage? See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Buberel_Coronation_coach_Catherine_the_Great.jpg
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: A %c. Without it, the output for the first campaign mob is probably going on the same line as your prompt.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: any idea why my auto spellups just stopped
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: was working fine just stopped doing spellups tho... spellup fast and spellup resume didnt restart it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, but lets play 20 questions to determine your client and other details
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is it bigger than a breadbox?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: i think you have some serious issues if your mud client is bigger than a breadbox
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i use mush. i just added some of the plugins that came with the newest aard version (some of the plugins aren't already loaded) - idle timer and calculator.. but there aren't any directions for use
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: try clicking help in the plugin list
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: anyone know how i would use either of these?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh hmmk
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: some dont come with instructions... you could read the script and read what the triggers/aliases are that are setup and figure it out that way
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: holy crap that is amazing!!
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks so much :)
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How do you sync your iPod Touch/iPhone so that apps that are on it will be downloaded to your computer? I had to reinstall and just copying my iTunes library into the new iTunes folder didn't work. My iTunes currently has no apps in it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I know that I've maanged to do it once, I just don't know how I did it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: in itunes on the left select device and then there should be options for syncing
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: one of them will be sync apps
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: none of it will work as expected...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The last time I synced apps like this, all apps on my iPod disappeared. I have save files for games I don't want to disappear.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I think by default when you try to sync apps, it will first check if there are any apps on the device that are not on your computer and will offer to copy them off first.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: That's what I remember it doing for me at least... unfortunately if it doesn't, I guess you'd lose that data.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Aaah, there it is. It's working, thanks.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I believe the behavior was different in older versions of iTunes, which may be why you lost stuff in the past.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, I figured out my memory leak problem, everytime I do a 'mapper find room' mush uses more memory
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: so, how do I fix that?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tell fiendish :p
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: do you know what the most recent version is?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "memory leak problem"
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: whenever I use the mapper find function mush's memory usage goes up and stays there
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I bet you that isn't strictly true
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you do the same query multiple times does that happen?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: give me a query to run
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: from recall do mapper find lane
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I get "Your search returned more than 50 results. Choose a more specific target."
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on. I'll remove that check
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I did whitewind from recall and it didn't have that affect, but if I sit in my manor and type mapper find manor its much worse
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: anyone know where to find a working potion tracker for mush, I can't seem to find one.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Bast has a PotionQuaffer
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although it doesn't work for me -- I need to send him the patch...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Jek, how much memory are you talking about here?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just because it starts out using less than it does later on, doesn't mean there's a leak
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, I just restarted mush, start at 50,000 kb, then do mapper find manor from my manor and I end up at 117,000 kb
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you start at 50? huh. I'm sitting here at 22.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: yeah, I know thats high already
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe a difference in how linux reports it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i start at 50ish too, but it doesn't go up beyond that i think
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: on xp
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, maybe not then, I'm using bast mush if it matters
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I'm at 121, windows xp :p
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the current mapper will use up to as much memory as it takes to load the entire rooms table into memory
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I can do the same query again and the memory won't go up as much, but it does seem tied to the mapper find function
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plus whatever additional information
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it only loads rooms as you access them
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why it grows
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I might be able to cut that practice down, since we do findpath in a different way now
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, its not that big of a deal since my computer has more than enough memory, but it is troubling to see mush use 300,000 kb at times
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hm.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just haven't seen that. I'll keep an eye out
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: now I can't say for sure its not other stuff contributing, but I see the biggest jumps with the gmcp mapper find function
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my mush (on wine) stays right at 115MB, never really moves from that the entire day
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well I took out the search result limit and did mapper find the
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which I believe probably pulls in almost the entire database
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and usage got up to like 130MB
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but then mushclient crashed on displaying the 8000 results :\
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: wow, so what does that mean?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it means that mapper memory usage shouldn't increase higher than around that
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though it does seem a little high, it's still significantly less than what firefox uses on my system
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, I wonder why mine goes so high, must be some sort of compounding problem
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'll look into reducing it if I can
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: might be an issue in the code
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: just a suggestion
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks for that not very helpful comment
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: ...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bizarro Sephiroth Tech: It's okay Tweak. We can't help it Fiendish doesn't like psychics like you that point the way to our future :-P
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: nother suggestion would be to just ditch mush and use something a little less antiquated..
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Oh really. Did you go to school for that level of expertise, ace?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: antiquated? What are you using that isn't as antiquated?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: zmud?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: lmao less antiquated? fail
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i use WoW to mud
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: god no
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: tech fight
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tweakerbell uses portal
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish coughs loudly.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: no.. i dont
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i got it, he uses MIXIT!!!
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I'm working on connecting to aard with esp
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No other client is more less-antiquated than mush, i hate mush, but i'm willing to admit it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Define is agreeing with that FootLong Cheezburger person again...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: more less antiquated, huh? haha
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I still can't admit that mush isn't antiquated, so that was my verbal workaround
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: well, it's beside the point how antiquated a client is when the issue is with a script not the client
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: derp
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tweakerbell: welcome to the future, where MUSHclient is the most heavily supported client around because it lets people like us (you know, the ones who actually do things instead of make useless comments like "oh hai there may be a problem in the code. derp") do the most things with the most freedom.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: oh? really?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ya rly
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Orogan sighs.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: is it open source?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes it is
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's actually free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: free software is not the same as open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why I corrected you
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tweakerbell Tech: it's barely supported, the api and codebase hasn't seen an update in years, the api documentation is disgustingly out of date and ill-supported, and honestly the people who use it as shown here are morons.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tweakerbell: wrong. wrong. wrong. wrong. Aannnnnd wrong.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Tweak, you are sadly misguided.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: your comments indicate your lack of coding insigh
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: ad hominem is definitely the way to go.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: if you cant hack it pack it baby
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Boy Named Sue is begging Ol' Dirty Fiendish to PLEASE be more careful with him. Trolls can be so delicate ...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tweakerbell's comments indicate a lack of more than just coding insight
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Uhm, 4.72 was released on the 4th of this month, how frequently do you want updates?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Define nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the more bug fixes are released, the better the software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn beams with pride.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and it is OPEN SOURCE, you can get the source through a git repository
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's more than just open source. it's free software.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Free as in liberty, not free as in beer
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I wish nick would use a standard license instead of making up his own
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't suppose anyone has any experience dealing with browser printing problems....
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: free software is less than open source, not more
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no Ranrr, it isn't
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes it is
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: free means I don't have to pay for it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: No, it doesn't.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Uhm, 4.72 was released on the 4th of this month, how frequently do you want updates?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Mis, sorry
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: free means you can edit and redistribute it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: open source means I can download the source and modify it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think it's less too.. if the dev stops developing.. and doesn't release the code.. the software can never improve
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Free software has a specific meaning that is independent of price.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've been burned by this many times
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ranrr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: beat me to it leinei
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: WinkleWinkle: there is no such thing as free software that is closed source.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: well the source is available. that was the original question, no? it is. you can go download it, screw with it, build it, inject malwar and redistribute it...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Free has more than one meaning.. and therefore there can be free software that isn't open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tech Here is the problem with so called free software:
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The authors or copyright holders of freeware may retain all rights to the software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it is not necessarily permissible to reverse engineer, modify, or redistribute freeware
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hence, free software is less than open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: possible != permissible
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ranrr: did you completely ignore the line right before that one?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Free software, which may or may not be distributed free of charge, is distinct from freeware which, by definition does not require payment for use.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: anyway, the point of this was the Tweakerbell was wrong, I won't to get back to that point
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: it's possible to reverse engineer, modify and redistribute ANY code
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: freeware and free software are NOT the same thing
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: won't=want
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I agree
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but I am still right
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, you're completely wrong
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually read what that wiki article says
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and try to understand it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I can not download the source for mushclient and modify it to my needs
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Uhh, yeah you can
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: open source software can still be proprietary and barred from redistribution under copyright
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But I can do that with e.g. tintin++
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: only if you have zero skills can you not
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ranrr: if you can't download the source for mushclient, then you have failed miserably
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I can only do that if it is open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: AARGHSGSDHG
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: guy... it is...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient/tree/v4.72
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then i was right
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: open source is more than free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: free software has the source publicly available, by definition
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: open source is less than free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: no its the opposite
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you may be given access to see the source of a program without being given permission to copy, modify, and redstribute that source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're still confusing freeware and free software, i think
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: yeah ranrr freeware != free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: free software is more freedom than open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "open source" means only that the source is available, not that you have permission to modify and redistribute it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: open source means you can get the source.... free software means you can modify it, redistribute, etc.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "free software" means that you have access to the source AND that you have the permission to modify and redistribute it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, is linux free software but not open source then?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: linux is a family of operating systems
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: it isn't a program
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's a kernel
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: yeah well... a family of kernels
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is no such thing as free software that is not also open source. if the source weren't available then by definition it could not be free.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: thats right
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and the GPL license applies to free sotware, not open source?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: the GPL license applies to software that the author places the GPL license on...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: it doesnt blanket apply to anything
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: of course not
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the GNU GPL is one example of a free software license
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are other less restrictive licenses
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it used to be an open source license...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, whatever, bsd, apache etc
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if you're right, I guess someone changed the terminology without telling me
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or you just never understood the meaning of the words you were using.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: no guy you just never learned the difference between freeware and free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: or software libre!
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have never heard the term free softare, only open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: everyone uses the term open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Folks have been arguing the terminology for ages.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bizarro Sephiroth Tech: FSF.org
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: then what do you mean that the meanings changed?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: e.g. from wikipedia on open source: One of the most successful open source products is the GNU/Linux153 operating system, an open source Unix-like154 operating system
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: and then?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because all free software is open source by definition
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but open source does not inherently mean that you are granted freedoms
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no, that's wheree the license comes in
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Free Software is a superset of Open Source. So, all Free Software is Open Source, but the inverse is not necessarily true.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Does anyone know how to change the colour of the text that displays the time in the Bast quest miniwindow?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: only BSD and similar give real freedom, not GPL
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: just go read the definitions
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but some would disagree on that
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: you aren't going to change them. you can choose to understand them or be wrong.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Kurojiryuu, click the M in the upper left on the mini window, goto Colours
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daesilme: free software is a more free subset of open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i think its kinda funny define talking about definitions
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not superset
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: give and example of something that is open source but not free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Yeah, sorry, got that bass ackwards.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient is free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh is it? i thought nick's license had some restrictions
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Lugaru HD
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: freeware != free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Herodotus: Nick's license is actually very permissive
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so mushclient is open source but not free software?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, mushclient is free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you not pay attention?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok, so give me an example on something that is open source but not free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Just about every website in the world is open source and not free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ranrr: Lugaru HD
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can view the source right in your browser, but you do not have permission to copy or modify it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just wish we could bin all browsers and just use Firefox
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: since none of the other work properly
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all of those fancy javascript websites? the source is right there. visible to everyone. But you do not have the legal right to take it and modify it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sorry, that does not fit this definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Definition
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: fails on clause 1
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What doesn't? My example or his?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: web pages
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you disagree that the source of a web page is open?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as opposed to closed?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no, web pages are not open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not according to the definition
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just because I can see the source does not make it open
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: technically, MUSHclient does not fit the definition of Free software at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software because Nick explicitly states you cannot resell it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a deassambled pice of software is not open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but I can get the source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if so, it is not even open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mushclient is freeware, not free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nick doesn't say you can't resell it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the license that comes with mushclient explictly says that you can resell it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=7733, not from that forum post
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I will continue to use the term open source, because that's what evetyone ese in my industry does. :)
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or maybe floss software if I feel like it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: use the term, but be ware that it doesn't mean what you think -- open source software is not about being able to access the source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so firefox and safari both do a reasonable job, ie is cruddocks but predictably cruddocks, and chrome and opera are just bugged to hell and gone
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: neither does free woftware, it seems
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish throws her hands up in disgust.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ahh, I was going on the forum post, so in the source, the you can resell
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that forum post is very old
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: lol, I just started it all up again, sorry!
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so, what in lugaru makes it open source but not free software?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read license.txt in the mushclient directory
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that depends -- if it is "free software" then yes, you can access the source. Open source software you can access the source. But the ability to access the source, does not make it open source
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The fact that you can't modify it and resell it -- a company just recently got in trouble for it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: swalec: that description isn't helping
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Actually, they didn't even modify it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But then it issn't open source. Fails clause 1.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: both terms are problematic, because they both have double meaning
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: most terms do have double meaning. It's the problem with representing complex ideas in single words
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I stil haven't seen open statement that makes a differnce between open source software and free software.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: free software definition = http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It doesn't fail clause 1
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec spent a two day meeting once where the main point of the discussion was the meaning of the word leaf
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There was no aggregate software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lugaru HD is free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all free software is open source, but not all open source software is free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they just didn't release the artwork
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tech but what is the difference?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read the damn link i pasted
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's a pretty clear definition of free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: there are a number of different, and more precise descriptions that define various entities and these are not all exactly the same. You are looking for a short answer to a question where all answers are detailed. You are not going to get a short answer.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sorry, but then I think someone needs to go back to the drawing board
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Lugaru HD isn't freeware, much less free software.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if the difference between two terms cannot be defined, then something is wrong
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: whole lotta derp on tech today
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: leinei: lugaru HD was released under the GPL. that makes it free software.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only the engine was
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ranrr: the difference is one of philosophically based terminology. "open source" as defined by the OSI is actually "free software". But calling something "open source" misses the entire point of explicitly declaring personal freedoms.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: it can and has been defined... refusing to understand it isn't helping anyone
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am not refusing
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did you check the gnu link?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it has a pretty clear definition
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have read the entire GPL license (and BSD, and many more).
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds like you're refusing to understand or even looking into it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm not asking you to read the license
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: calling something "open source" is wholely ambiguous about the nature of your freedoms. something can have source that is open but still be proprietary software that does not allow you to modify or redistribute it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read THIS - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but just stating that the answer is in the link does not make it so
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: especially if you don't read it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes. especially if you don't read it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: essentially the industry has operationalized the terms as being different in that "open source" does not imply full liberty but merely access to the source. yes the term is technically ambiguous and has in the past been differently defined by certain authorities. and there is GOOD reason it has its present definition: so we have a word to describe a DIFFERENT scenario
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its pretty simple really
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you may say "but the OSI has declared 'open source' to mean thus!" and that's because eric raymond doesn't care about freedom
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i never even knew "free software" existed
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and my view is that richard stallman does not care about freedom
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the more you know.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's a TERRIBLE name
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I honestly don't see GPL as a free license
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the osi has defined plenty of things that have developed much different definitions
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so use the WTFPL
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the WTFPL is recognized by the FSF as a valid free license
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i drafted my own licenses... one for free (except for military purposes), one for open source, one for closed source freeware, and one for commercial
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: they're all derivatives of MIT license
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok, I found the difference
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that wikileaks guy is an arsehole, by all accounts, as well
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Open source is a development methodology
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: fail.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: free software is a social movement.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ranrr: it can be, but need not be.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: different definition of same phrase
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that's from gnu.org
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i quit
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am a developer, not a social person
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean "open source" as defined by the OSI
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the OSI defines open source to be very similar in practice to free software, but without taking a moral stance on why it's good. not everyone agrees with OSI.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: to me it seems like gnu just wants everyone to use their version because it is better, not because there is a real difference
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: to me, what I can do with the source is the important thing
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: they think that it is better because it emphasis the social context more
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the legal framework is much the same
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: preserving freedom is morally important
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure, but I don't need another term to do that
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you absolutely do, because people need to be made aware of the concept of software freedom
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: free software predates open source by many years
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: words are powerful, and different words have different impact
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, so?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: so the question is whether we needed the words "open source"
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and so when you say "open source" you aren't necessarily communicating "free software". and language is about communicating ideas
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I come from the camp which thinks that it has just confused the issue
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and I disagree
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, I gather that
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not everyone agrees that Open Source is good? damn right there
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think it's a much better term, because free softwaresounds too much like freeware
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so call it FLOSS
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How about calling it free source :)
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: once upon a time we just had shareware and that was it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: because it is not the source that is free, it includes the use of the software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: when was that?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: free software predates taht also, I think
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: floss has been around since the 60's, at least
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: of it's time, shareware == free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: open source works better in swedish than free software
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and yet it means the wrong thing philosophically
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: software freedom is a philosophy
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I respect your opinion, but disagree with it :)
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: open source software is a problem these days because people use it as a means of doing things on the cheap
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Arrr, maytees, Software freedom has but one name - piracy! And it's a scurvy son of a sea dog that don't take wat's 'is for the takin'.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can only hope that one day you come to understand the importance of semiosis.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: whole argument only exists because people, as a general stereotype, are crooks
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then yes, there is going to be another release
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sorry mischan
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, helluva long thread on free vs oss vs freeware, but sorry fiendish and others, you're wrong. YOUR defined use of the term free software conforms to how you're determining it to be meant. That is *NOT* the definition of free software. There is NO agreed-upon definition for it. Had you read the wikipedia article which Leinei quoted, and which Fiendish said that he was just about to quote, it starts out saying that very thing. despite what Stallman would like you to believe, he didn't originate the term, and FSF is no authority on the term whatsoever
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 'so there'
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Feral Farkyss, in complete agreement.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the term free software means way the hell too many different things to different people, and stamping your feet and re-stating that your definition is right doesn't make it so
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you are right, as always
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: So you all agree to disagree?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: pretty much
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now FOSS is much less ambiguous, I've never really seen FLOSS used but that might be a language thing
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: FLOSS (weekly) is a podcast
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, anything can be a podcast
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the l is for libre, which disambiguates free
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cuz LOSS is a bad acronym :D
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, just haven't seen it in use
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://en.flossmanuals.net/
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didn't say it wasn't in use, said I haven't seen it in (known/widespread) use
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure sure, I gotcha. just showing an example
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: Any gq-cycle plugins for mush around?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is one, I'd have to look for where it's located though
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, sorry, I was thinking of a moons script...I'm not sure if there's a public GQ cycle script
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people keep wanting one though
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder why
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're handy
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: to know if you should stay on that extra 20 minutes you don't really need to :)
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast, plans to make one?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: don't really need it just wanted to see how it works
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: eventually, maybe, not really high on the priority list though
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seeing how it works is pretty easy...can check out ones for other clients
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: got one for zmud,didn't fully understand it...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's one for tf on my site
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not sure how much I've changed it from the posted one to the one I'm running, but it's functional and commented
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: I'll have a look at it.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ok i got the new mush loaded do i just copy my old database file over so that settings and rooms explored on map will transfer over
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes. follow the instructions
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh yeah, the instructions suggest copying over the world file, but there's a better way with less problems. Import from your old world file.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: what instruction i didnt see any in the folder
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: On the download page.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm <- there is a section on upgrading
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: stupid rpi needs to bring up my home directory so that I can get my files off their server :\
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I mean, I'm glad they have backups and all, but this uptime ratio is getting pathetic
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: xaxz, if there's a better way to transfer world file stuff, write a note about it to lasher
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, when did you move out to MA?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ok, will do.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: about 2.5 years ago
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, can't really fault them too much, given that your acct still exists
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: still, I can pay nearlyfreespeech.net a few dollars per year and not have this problem
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last MUD I admin'd on was on Alfred U's servers. the guy that went there when it was started had graduated a couple years ago when one of the servers died...that's when the MUD closed, since we no longer had anyone at the school to petition for it :P
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course this was like 14 years ago, it was a Sun3
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I ran it for a bit out of the house on a Mac running NetBSD, then got it mostly working on my alphastation, but the code needed lots of work to be happy on 64-bit
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast, what kind of keywords?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: any kind, like maybe sancdoor1, so I can go straight to the door and unlock it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in sanctity of course
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hm. seems clumsy.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: easier to remember keyword then the id, I can't remember if it is 32105 or 37463
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and that was made up, because it isn't either of those
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and then it could replace runto altogether, just set a keyword at the beginning of the area and mapper goto
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nod. can you use mapper bookmarks?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not that you can goto a bookmark
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but maybe
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: er, i guess they're called notes now
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper notes
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use mapper bookmarks, but the only way to see them is to run "mapper bookmarks" which does a pathfind to all the ones you have basically
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I could do a plugin that just overloads runto and keeps up with the keywords internally
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: seems simplest to have an alias with a table of keywords,uid pairs
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, but you know me, I want to overcomplicate it ;)
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: bast you around?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ok ive installed the new mush and plugins from bast's but one of them seems to be doing a whois on me everyone and awhile anyone know which one it is
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a virus! don't panic!
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: seems to happen every tick
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd guess it's broadcast_whois
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: no not that one
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doing a find on whois in the v5 folder, I see broadcast_whois and statDB
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: statdb
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: just got it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: hehe
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: thnks
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: can you sent any key to a macro in mush or are you limited by what is listed under the macro menu
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: err set that is
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read documentation on accelerators
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: believe there's an option in prefs somewhere to allow any key to be set as a macro
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i do not believe that that is the case
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: using mushclient 4.71 for aard, and now the autohunt feature doesnt work, any ideas?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: have alrady reloaded plugin and restarted client
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what exactly do you mean by "doesn't work"?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does your prompt end with %c?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also, the latest client package uses 4.72 not 4.71
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: it now says what direction to go but doesn't send the direction and i don't know
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type auto and read help prompt
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %qqt %Xtnl]
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type the following ...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: prompt [%h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %qqt %Xtnl]%c
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is your battle prompt?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: [Fighting: %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %Xtnl%b ]>
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: assuming it's all standard, i didn't change anything
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then also type the following...
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bprompt [Fighting: %h/%Hhp %m/%Mmn %v/%Vmv %Xtnl%b ]>%c
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: done
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: now try again
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: still says auto hunt on, and gives dirction but doesn't send it to the mud
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hm. I suppose there could be a bug in the plugin still
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ask bast about it
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or swalec
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: or i may need to go the current version
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: possible
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: been working for a couple of times then i would have to restart the hunt, mmm
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the latest snapshot of the official client package can be found here: http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/files/MUSHclient.zip
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: follow the instructions for upgrading in the middle of this page: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then get the latest version of Bast's plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: ya, only been using what came with the package
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: where do i find bast's plugins?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: finger bast
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: finger bast
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: whats the symbol used to use in mush to use a variable in a alias i know in zmud it was @
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i take it most people don't use the aardwofl_autohunter_lau?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I think autohunt is pretty lame, to be honest :/
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: me to, but i also think arthritus is pretty lame
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: getvariable raistlin
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: oh i seen that in the help file but how is it used when i go to write the alias like this c getvariable.mainspell
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Arthritis sucks. Scripting to reduce pain is legit as long as no rules are broken.
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: All aliases and triggers cause HITLER!
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: GetVariable("mainspell")
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: oh
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Send("c "..GetVariable("mainspell")) in lua
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: thnks think im on the right track now
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone have the nokia n900?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: Anyone here experienced with msfrpcd?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: in MUSH is it possible to add a delay/sleep to an alias via a scripting command of some kind?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: read help for DoAfterSpecial
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use the wait script
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: derp, didn't search for Wait, lol
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i need some help i have made a alias ^mm (.*?)$ to send mapper area (.*?) but when it runs it doesnt trigger the mapper search for the mush gmcp map any ideas
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: send to execute
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: is there a help file in the client that describes what each of thoes sento's do that seems to be my hang up
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sento?
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sendto
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: most of them should be obvious from the name
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: ahh that makes more sense
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: send to world is like typing to aardwolf
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not actually clear on the difference between send to script and send to execute, but I don't make many standalone triggers that aren't inside plugins
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: aye just dont understand why when set to sento worl i seen it send mapper area test which is a room in my manor and it said sorry i dont undertand you
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: world sends it verbatim, execute acts as if you typed it into command line, script will parse it as a lua prog
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: send to world is like typing to aardwolf *with aliases turned off*
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: output just makes it appear on screen
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: send to execute is typing with aliases turned on
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ok
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so you should do send to execute for that one, then
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: haven't really used the rest :p
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: send to script will execute the send to as a script
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: thnks for all the help and paitecnce yall
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: and putting up with my horrible typing/spelling
T3/r2/2011-02-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: hehe
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nivlem Tech: does anyone knows how to set short cut for spells ?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what kind of question is that?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: meaning?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nivlem Tech: I'm on a mac using crossover for MUSH client
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: sounds like you should start with help alias
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what kind of spells?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: have you tried using the keypad?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nivlem Tech: Magic Missle and these sorts lol...my client keeps force closing whenever I try to assign a spell to a key
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nivlem Tech: was wondering if any of you had experience the same problem
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: have not had that problem, sorry.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like a bug in crossover
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Can use mud aliases instead, help alias
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: try using the sn for the spell. I have keys assigned to some spells and I have no problems.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nivlem Tech: sorry but whats sn ?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: spell number
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sor magic missile it would be c 62
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nivlem Tech: Alright I'd do that. Thanks alot
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: though I would go the alias route, you won't be casting magic missile forever and you'll want to change the spell. Easier done in an alias
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: lasher is a genius. serial numbers are essential for inventory mgmt
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think he invented the idea of serial numbers.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nah, but never seen it in a mud before
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I have
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Maybe not, but if he gets it patented first, he can make a fortune!
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanaye Tech: Anyone know a free firewall bypass program? Instead of like for example PingFU UDP?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: just bought a 64GB Crucial SSD for 75 dollars :D
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ah, the same one my other pc is using, pricy isn't it
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: how do you add a carriage return in lua? \n doesn't seem to work.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: oi, lua, give me my carriage back?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu laffs.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no seriously, how do you add a to next line symbol in a string?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: \n is just new line \n\r would be new line + cr
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: one would assume
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: what was the command someone told me the other night to toggle my CP miniwindow?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: mcp CP toggle
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: are you having to do it everytime you start the client too?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I have to do it everytime I take a dang cp :(
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yea same, i just got a cp and i had to do it to toggle the miniwindow to show.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: alias your cp request to do cp r;mcp CP toggle
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: You gotta add a delay if you do that though, or use the alias twice
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are there any other miniwindows that may be blocking your cp miniwindow until toggling it raises it?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nope
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone know how to match a trigger to a variable? Do I just type match=variablename or do I encase it in quotes?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: What you trying to do exactly?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: and we talking MUSH here?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: teh variable name might need to be ariablename.. and maybe click expand variables.. jsut guesses
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Yes, MUSH, and scripting in lua
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: teh variable name might need to be @variablename.. and maybe click expand variables.. jsut guesses
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if you put checkbox in Expand Variables, you can use ariablename
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: @variablename
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe you did the same thing as me!
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: otherwise think you need to GetVariable("variablename")
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no, I'm scripting it in lua, not using the MUSH GUI
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: kuro: writing a plugin? follow examples in other plugins.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah trying, but the plugins I'm browsing through all match on a string, not on a variable.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: as in, the triggers match on a string, not a variable
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SelannaNokti Tech: anyone here willing to help me set up a trigger?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: in the trigger line "* Tech: *"
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: in the the space below "echo %1 says %2"
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Anyone using Bast's quest miniwindow?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes, Kuro
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: does your [TARGET] show up after the mob?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: crap =(
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: any idea how to make mine show again>
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: now you get how it works, Selanna?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Are you certain you're looking at the correct instance of that mob name?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that plugin does nothing to hide the [TARGET] in the output window, it doesn't even have a trigger to check for any mob
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SelannaNokti Tech: umm.. i just typed in what you said, lol.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, I killed it and it gave me the quest complete
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: and you see an echo for every tech?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: oh okay, damn.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SelannaNokti Tech: echo?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it gets all its info from gmcp
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the line being repeated
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SelannaNokti Tech: umm.. i don't think anything's changed
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: make sure the trigger is enabled and change the blank space to "gtell %1 says %2" and all without quotes
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just type something when you're done
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SelannaNokti Tech: type
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: worked?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SelannaNokti Tech: it's the same as before =/
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SelannaNokti Tech: i think?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: check again that the enable trigger box is checked in both the main page and after when you double click this trigger as well
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: is there a command line one can enter to input a simple trigger for mush? would want one for an example
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JackTheWolf Tech: does MUSHclient work well with aardmud?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: As well as comparable clients
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JackTheWolf Tech: what are "comparable clients"? just other ones of the same type?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myriel Tech: If you download the Aardwolf plugin version it works extremely well
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JackTheWolf Tech: ah ok. forgot my jumpdrive today ^^ thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: zmud/cmud
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you can type clients to see what others are using
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JackTheWolf Tech: ok i'm using the MUD client from the site. it is MUSH...love the UI =) thanks for the advice
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: On the Aardclient, how do i refresh the status bar with health, tnl, etc? It for some reason isn't working it says it will start once I "start playing"
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Are you awake and moving?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: If all else fails, just reinstall the plugin in the plugins menu.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: When I reinstall, the map one is blank so I typed "map" and it loaded up- this one is still gone
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: What would i have to name an alias that has two strings? like this is wrong but i thought it was 'socialdo * *' referring to the first asterisk as %1 (which worked) and the second asterisk as %2 (which didn't). how do I name this correctly?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: I figured it out, it was 'text '*' '*''
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that makes sense!
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Can I ask a ludite question?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Or is it luddite?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: How do I disable the chat from the normal client and just have room info and fighting on my main screen for aard client?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: How do I write an expression for a target in MUSHclient for a spell? In Zmud it used to be spellname %1. Doesn't seem to work with MUSH.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If I understand your question correctly, you're using aardwolf and don't want the chat that's redirected to the Comm Log to show in the main window?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: divinorum right click on the chat window for all kinds of options
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: select "turn echo off"
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: spank clarify the question, please
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: Xaxz, yes
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Div, Fiendish answered your question. Right-click the communication log for many options. Select "turn echo off"
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ok, I go into the "alias" dialog box. I want to write an expression for CAST 'ENCHANT WEAPON' *****. The ***** used to be %1 in Zmud, but that doesn't work in MUSH.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: Assuming your name is 'aliasname', make the name 'aliasname *' and the content '
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: 'c 'enchant weapon' %1'
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: To do two, simply make it 'aliasname '*' '*'' and add the %2 string, 'c 'enchant weapon' %1
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: and then the second with the %2
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: How do I freeze the location of my plugins on MUSHclient so when I log off they are in the same place?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: File->save
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ok this is what I have so far, I've named my alias ENWE for Enchant Weapon (clever, eh?), and I've entered c 'enchant weapon' %1 in the dialog box.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: Make sure the alias name is 'enwe *'
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: Without external quotes, obviously
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Now when I type enwe whip I get Sorry Spank, you can't do that.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Aliases enabled?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yeah, my other, simple aliases work fine (ones without targets).
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: did you put the * in the name?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: If your alias name is enwe * and your script for it is c 'enchant weapon' %1 , it should work. Are you sure it's like that?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I did not put an asterisk in the name.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: everyone said you have to
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: There's your problem.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why would you not?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Well I'll be damned.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Works fine guys! Thanks.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: Did it work?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Divinorum Tech: No problem :)
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Oh, BTW, you never had to put the asterisk in ZMUD, years ago.
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: different programs work differently
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: zmud != mush
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: can any one explain whats wrong with send("cast ".. getvariable("mainspell"))
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Isn't case important for commands?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: e.g., Send and GetVariable
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: im not sure truthfully still learnin lua myself
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: this is the error i get
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: [string "Alias: "]:1: attempt to call global 'getvariable' (a nil value)
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah, it doesn't recognize it as the function GetVariable
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ahh learned something new thnks
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riazin Tech: how do i define a macro say Ctrl-Z with mush-client? Anyone?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read documentation on accelerators
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riazin Tech: where do i find 'documentation on accelerators'? There is no in the mush-client help?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes there is
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riazin Tech: is there a commad that can be used to load accelerators at start-up?
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: dump them into a plugin somewhere
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riazin Tech: k
T3/r2/2011-02-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can also post a request on the mushclient forums for a proper interface for setting accelerators globally
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: so when I get a line on the same line as my prompt, my miniwindow wont capture it, like such:[278/282hp 322/322mn 636/636mv 0qt 391tnl] > *[NOEXP]* You still have to kill * the father (The Amusement Park) any way to prevent this?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Put a %c at the end of your prompt?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put %c at the end of your prompt
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Anybody on running MUSHClient under Wine on Ubuntu?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Wine 1.0
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ubuntu 10.10
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thinkpad x201i
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: any tweaks to improve performance?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually, wine 1.0.1
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that all depends
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what graphics chip do you have?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: app-emulation/wine-1.3.13
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Hmm, don't know off the top of my head. Checking.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: but not ubuntu (shouldn't depend on distribution anyway)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only reason I ask is because of an incompatibility between latest intel graphics drivers and newer versions of Wine
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I think I don't know how to tell. Adapter says Radeon HD 3200
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then you're probably fine
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess some people recommend installing winetricks
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uh...get the ms core fonts pack
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you should try the latest wine if you can, 1.3.13 got some fixes for clipboard that really help in mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It seems fine, a little slow on painting the screen. 1.3.13? I just grabbed it and I have 1.2.2.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: anyone tried porting mushclient to linux?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I've also heard that running from the command line with the /wine switch may improve performance
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ranrr: that will never happen
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: That is what I am doing.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: why?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient is not really portable
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's rather heavily tied into windows system specifics
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: source code is available, but heavily depends on windows-only UI libraries
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the best you'll get is running through wine
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan is agreeing with that Ol' Dirty Fiendish person again...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so it can be done, but probably not worth doing...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not really
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at the end you would not have a port. you would likely have a complete rewrite
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK, thanks. I was just wondering if there was some "common knowledge" about it that I hadn't heard of. I won't try to solve a non-existent problem. It's working well.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: slow screen draws is likely a driver issue
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It is a VirtualBox VM, so your are likely right, there.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wait, what?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: but then you don't use ATI driver, but the vbox one :)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're using virtualbox inside of what?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Inside Windows 7.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the reason you don't just run mushclient from windows is because...?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Because I can totally screw up my VM and go back to a snapshot in a minute. Screw up Windows and you are in for a battle.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: let me get this straight...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: ok, I was hoping it would be "I'm preparing for migration"... this seems bit silly
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I keep the host as pristine as possible, and play in the guests.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you boot your computer into windows 7, but because you think that windows is so fragile you do everything inside of a virtual machine running a different OS?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yep.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's why your performance sucks, not because of wine
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Of course windows are fragile! One good toss with a brick...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav ducks defensively.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you do realize that you could just back up your computer, right?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, the overhead of windows 7 + vbox + ubuntu + wine has got to be fairly huge...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and that mushclient is completely standalone and therefore doesn't touch the system at all?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah - run Bast's MUSH from a flash drive if you're worried.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: doesn't it store some trivial stuff in registry? Like what worlds to open at startup, global preferences...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf client package is completely standalone
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: preferences are stored in a preferences file in the mushclient directory
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and Pedwiddle: bast doesn't make that anymore
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he makes an addon pack for the official client package now
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah - cool, sorry. Haven't been keeping up since going back to tf.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: It is a thought. I have been using Linux compatible clients up until now. I might think about moving it up to the host.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imo, your current setup is ridiculous
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: windows 7 is not so fragile
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and if you really think it is fragile, why boot into it at all
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Where is the MUSHclient mapper data stored? Is it easily moved?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: NVM, I see it came across OK.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Does anyone know where I can get some zMUD scripts?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lots of places
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Lol, well, got one you would recommend?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh hey, my website is back up.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that means you can go to http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~kelmaa/Aardwolf/
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: until I transfer to the contents over to the new not-porn.com server
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Lol.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also alhena and atreidess have zmud scripts
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe others
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then I guess it's not back online fully yet
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the rpi cs department keeps having really bad server outages
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry. try again later
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gunshin nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: No worries.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh wait
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just replace not-porn.com with the www.cs.rpi.edu/~kelmaa part
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that should work
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like I said, I need to transfer the files and stuff over to the new not-porn.com server
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: Oooh. Lol.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunshin Tech: That works.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: now that I know it's back up, I'll move stuff later today
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: I see myself getting disconnected and reconned a lot when I open the Debugger in CMUD. I only see the message in the debugger and I see [ Connect time exceeded - Disconnecting ]. Does anyone else see this?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: is it supposed to be straightforward to install the spellup plugin from gammon.com onto the new mushclient? directories and plugins stated to be required by the thread at http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8780
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: aren't there
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't use that
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use that one
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use bast's
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a first-gen from years ago
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's started out with that one but has been improved over the years (including fixing glitches)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: is the link the one in his finger?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: I'm lazy, thanks!
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has streamlined the install process for his stuff...the download is a zipfile with all his stuff in one folder...just put that into your plugins folder...then do file -> plugins, add, choose whichever one(s) you want
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: Heafmo-proof, fantastic xD
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll enable prerequisites and you can choose a la carte
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: would anyone know why bast's spellup plugin isn't casting anything?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: add spells to it
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: tried spellup all, spellup resume, spellup fast
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and stand up
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fix your prompt
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your prompts need to end in %c
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i thought that had been fixed
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in MUD code, the change was to make sure that %c worked always, not to add %c to people's prompts
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's still left as an option to the player to have a stupid prompt that will break every plugin ever
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ohh ok sorry
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in fact, that's the default
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it used to be that things like the noexp flag would be on the next line after the %c
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the noexp flag would essentially be another unterminated prompt
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the change Lasher made was to look for a %c, if one exists, put the flags before it instead of after
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nods, get it now
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: shouldn't have any issues though should I alter my prompt?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: this spellup plugin you guys are talking about, it'll auto spellup after they wear off?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: because mine last no time at all at this level :(
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: which spellup plugin are you talking about?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: idk I dont have it :P
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish, does the new client still use a client-side afk mode thingie?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (technical term there, folks)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think so
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good, imo that was silly and defeated the best purpose of things like the spellup plugin :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I use it because it's nice to see a list of spellups thats autoupdated sorted by time, especially the sorted by time is neat
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I keep it in minimized mode, because I don't have that much screen space these days
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Which reminds me did someone make something similar for combat affects? I mean I cast ego whip and when succesful it gets added on a miniscreen.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: If not I could try making it.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how would you be able to monitor that?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to know one MOB from another while fighting, and tbh, don't bother using maladictions
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Just a simple aproach triggers for the lines like the monster is egowhipped (or whatever it says).
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that will never work properly
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it won't know that your current target is ego whipped when you're fighting that target's next-of-kin
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Could just clear it when it notices a kill
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c ego guard, 3 other guards jump in...ego whip is only one one of them
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: It'd work properly most of the time.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do mobs really last long enough to worry?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no tiger :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you really shouldn't be using ego whip
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: True, but just as a mush excercise :)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's much more efficient to just attack
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's an exercise, then by all means :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I've noticed that when it matters I just cast whatever does the most damage.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Thanks for the tip though :)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: could someone send me a tell to help me set up my client? I'm not sure which plugins to install
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I have all the ones that come with the new client, but I want some of basts' plugins too.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: one assumes therefore you're talking about mushclient
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: anyone?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf is now finally moved over to its new host.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with luck that means it won't go down anymore
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Can somebody help me with a wireless network issue?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Depends on the issue
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: let's here it.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: hear
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: I lost my password. My brother is trying to connect his laptop. Do you know how to recover the network password?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Windows i assume?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just factory reset the router and reconfigure it.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: if you reset your Modem
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You can just save it to a flash drive
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Yes, it's a linksys router.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: did you try admin admin
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: for User and pw?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: or admin, password
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: factory reset it. That's where you push a paperclip or pencil for about 30 seconds right?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: There's a button on the back that you can hold down to reset it if necessary.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: 10 seconds should do it
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: That's right
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: resets his router and he'll be kicked off-line most likely
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Or go to your router page
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Go to your router page, try admin, and admin/passord (one of them) to log in, and get the WEP encryption key
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: I typed in the ip address, but it wants a user name and password, which I can't recall.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: should be 192.168.1.1 by default I bleieve
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: try admin/ or /admin
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Maskull.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Unledd they're double nat'd
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's assuming it's WEP, hopefully it is not.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well, you can get any of the encryption, regardless.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: admin default, user default, admin (blank) etc.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Iirc mine was admin/admin
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Your router should have a sticker somewhere w/ the info
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: If it's a WRT54G, the default should be blank for username and "admin" for password.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ehh, that's linksys, right? Think it's the other way around Maskull
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Hopefully when he set all this up, the defaults were changed :/
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: I have a WRT54g and mine was admin admin case sensitive.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: just hit the reset button
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: That's what I thought too, but I just saw that on some webpage.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: resetting is rarely the answer. it's a last resort
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I got alot of errors when trying to load some of basts' plugins into the new aardwolf client (MUSHclient). Any advice or a list of what I can/can't use?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Resetting is the wrong way to fix things
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: not if he doesnt know the login credentials, not like hes got a bunch of custom port mapping and whatnot...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: he should be trying our suggestions for the defaults first
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: if you connect main PC to the router via ethernet cable, you may be able to just change password? I think I did it this way, had the same issue and didn't want to reset the router
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: agreed but if the defaults arent accepted..
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, we gave him the credentials without much ado
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Darsalla, any luck?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well, don't suggest a reset until the plausible is tried first :P
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I disagree - if the password is stale enough that you can't remember it, you're overdue for changing it anyway.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah it sort of looked like they were, to no avail
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: bad thing would be if he was on AT&T with PPPoE, resetting would kick him off until PPPoE was set back up again
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: bad thing would be if he was on AT&T with PPoE. (Fixed that for you)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: fixed my spelling of PPPoE?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Why did you correct it? The correct is PPPoE
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I was implying that PPPoE with AT&T sucks.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: heheh, well it was also just an example, tried to think of a common one. I happen to work for verizon *duck
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: run...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I just got my iphone with verizon :)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos . o O ( anything with AT&T sucks... )
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus is agreeing with that Undertaken Anaristos person again...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What was the website you could put a code snapshot on for others to view and change?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: pastebin?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That was it, thanks!
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Could someone familiar with Bast's broadcast_xxx plugins have a look at my levelup broadcast code? It was working fine before but now I'm not actually getting any info other than level gained. Trains/pracs and any other gains are showing up as zero.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: http://pastebin.com/hA2xMYqg
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: ok, i need some advice.. just started using mushclient last night and saved a bunch of aliases.. came on today and they are gone... took some notes on notepad and those are still there... any idea on what happened? dont want to redo 100 aliases if they are still lurking somewhere.. and need to make sure i can secure them in the future
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you didn't save your world file before quitting, they're gone. The aardclient comes with a plugin which saves the world file every once in a while.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Really? hmmm....
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: used to maybe.. hmmm.. or maybe I just picked one up off gammon's site a while back
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: ok, but pretty sure i did save it... at least i saved repeatedly when putting it in, and got a save request when i quit..
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: wondering if i saved to wrong file..
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gastro: don't know. maybe. open your world file with a text editor
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: fiendish could you go invisi so I can send you a tell ?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tezaal thanks fiendish
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: how do i do that fiend?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's the file called Aardwolf.mcl in the worlds folder
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see if you accidentally made a different world file somewhere
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: hmm. when i look in worlds i have a plugin folder, an aardwolf.mud file, and the notes i made to myself last night.... entitled Gas Notes
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardwolf.mud or aardwolf.mcl?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: aardwolf.mud.. which is how i opened it in first field with quck connect
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why did you do that?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is this an old world file that you imported into the package from before?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: its just a name i put into first field.. numbers go into next two fields.. ending with 4000..
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right, but the aardwolf client package has a world file already created for you
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and it loads automatically
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so you shouldn't need to use that dialog
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why I'm wondering what prompted you to do this
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when you load the aardwolf client for the very first time, you should see something that looks like this... http://www.aardwolf.com/images/mush-help.jpg
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: clicking on the x in the top right corner will dismiss the message and load a connection to aardwolf automatically
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: ok, now i just managed to disconnect myself from game.. by clicking on aardmud.org in world file.. opened up an empty world that i couldnt get out of, had to close everything
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: ok, just saw your comments on -hist fiend... i dont think i got those options when i loaded for first time..
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what operating system do you use?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: using windows seven on a mac because the mac systems i tried implement were unusable and only subsequently discovered needed windows to use mush...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well you can run it with wine
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use mushclient in wine on linux, but wine on the mac is harder to set up I think
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Nah, not if you get binaries. It's easier, even.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: yeah, i am trying to keep things simple.. i am sure for the technically oriented, wine is fine
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: just dont understand how all that saved info could just disappear.. is there any place it might be besides world? and what should i put into first field from now on?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it wasn't saved... thats your problem. save it before you quit
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: gastro, hold on. let me post you a note explaining my take
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: or get newest aard client which saves it periodically
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: ok, good idea fiendish.. cuz i have to quit soon anyway, so a note might be a good reference.. all i can say, hero, is that i did save it, again and again, although when i quit i got save message that might have indicated it was saving to another file.. didnt recognize the name on that one
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh its probably chillin somewhere on your system then
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: but just said fuck it and saved that too
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: thats what i am thinking.. and want to unchill it
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: language..
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: reported speech..
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: rude
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: hehe, i found it
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tezaal congratulates Gastro
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: got all the commands back...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: what i did was
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: just in case anyone asks you about this on tech chan again...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: mm, will explain after double... lasher obviously wants to celebrate this
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: is it just me, or is the miniwin_events missing from basts' package? (the one that is supposed to contain the quest, CP, and GQ windows) or is it just under a different name?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Called stats now
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh, thank you
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is in v6, not in v5
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: v6 has not been released yet
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: why hello bast :)
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I won't mention v6 I saw your title
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tezaal runs for his life
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hey bast whens v6 coming out
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, I finally got the slowness of the spellup miniwin to almost nothing, so we may get a release this weekend
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tezaal starts digging herodotus' grave
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Bast, do you have a brief moment to look at my code using your broadcast_level plugin? Suddenly I get no information other than level number. Everything else showing up as zero.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: http://pastebin.com/hA2xMYqg
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: pastebin?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: 2 steps ahead. It was working previously, but now nothing.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nothing at all?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I see "You gained level 144! 0hp, 0mn, 0mv."
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I wonder if something else stopped working?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: But I don't know which of your addons speak to the other
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Sorry, "You gained level 144! 0 pracs, 0 train, 0hp, 0mn, 0mv"
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: any reason you aren't using statmonitor?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm having difficulty getting the moons plugin to work.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: be outside and see all 3 moons either rise/fall
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, I have your StatMonitor and the aardclient Aardwolf_Statmon. Would they conflict?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I think statdb crashed on loadup actually.... hmm
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, aardwolf_statmon catches the statmon line, doesn't do anything with stats really
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gastro Tech: ok, so i went to file and hit open world... a blank world came up and i tried to enter that.. got some kind of message, something about if i wanted to open aardmud.org.. hit ok and returned to game.. this time with the aliases i had recorded.. so they were there.. i just need to work on my seamless return to where i was...
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Something crashes on startup I think.. let me quit/relog.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, didn't crash that time.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, I guess I'll level and see what happens
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you type statdb comp, do you see any good info?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yep.
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, then you should be good to go, the first level, it may not give you the mob/xp count, but it should on the next level
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Cool, thanks!
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm, what's the case sensitive matching syntax for sqlite?
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think case sensitivity is a pragma toggle
T3/r2/2011-02-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos rapidly nods twice at Ol' Dirty Fiendish, in complete agreement.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so, is there a way I can make an alias that does echo, and sends that echo to a separate window too?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: zmud 7.21
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use the #WIN command
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: #say {this stuff};#win {win} {this_stuff}?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I'll try it. thanks :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's just a rough guess, i don't use zmud at all, so anyone that knows for sure feel free to correct me
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: hrrmm, zmud throws an infinite loop with : echo %1;#win {Echo} %1
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: there is a tilde before that echo
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, i said #say, i don't think it reparses
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: what's it triggering off?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: or even just non-mudside echo, clientside #echo.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: throws an infinite loop
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: with echo or #echo or #say
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, the MUD's 'echo' command will resend to the client.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: no trigger, I just want an alias
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so just add a special tag of your own creation to it so it's a different trigger and then #sub it to {}
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: since no one likes triggers on gtell, i'm trying to come up with a client side alternative to gtell -h
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: before i post an idea
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: this is not a trigger, it's an alias
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: #win {Echo} {%0};echo {~{echo~}%0};#sub {~{echo~}} {}
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so, zugg's making a client for the iphone/ipad :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: good luck with that
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm sure it will suck
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: infinite loop
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ok mr negativity.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: maybe just trigger off of the command echo instead of trying o make an alias...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: As someone who has an iphone, I can honestly say I would not MUD from it.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: an ipad tho... its not bad
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-|Cabal|- Hodor Tech: Nor would I from my android. Comparing my typing speeds.... ugh.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: wait
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm...apparently it's just a joke :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Blegh.... I rely on my typing speed... I suck terribly on my laptop compared to normal keyboard... I don't think I could stand ipod/pad typing
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: oops, had two aliases. forgot. hang on
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Well in theory you could use a bluetooth keyboard
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I would have to have 10x the aliases for something so crappy
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: speech-to-text :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: ok, so #say {this stuff}
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: ok, so #say {this stuff};#win {win} {this_stuff} worked :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: my fault. had two aliases, i forgot I didn't delete the first one :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryand Tech: bt support will be in next vers of ipad mud client
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: now if I can only get the new window to dock :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unlock your layout
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what kind of script are you doing, kal?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Tech -h, he already said
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i'm trying to add an alias so that i can capture things i send to the mud via echo so that I can keep a history of echoes.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, I see
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: right now most of that stuff goes to gtell so I can gtell -h. but that is undesirable
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah, makes sense
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so instead of rewriting every script i have to put stuff to a window, i can just knock it out with one little echo alias
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you could log to a file instead, or do you want to have it only stored temporarily and be on screen?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: we could use a tag for echos
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: or gmcp
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i want temporary.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that kind of defeats the purpose of echo a little bit, myrkul
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: OK, so that didn
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: OK, so that didn't quite work.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: what got sent to my capture windo included all the color codes and stuff.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is that bad?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: hrrmmm.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: maybe i'll just post my idea to let single people use spouse. that or get married to somebody just so i can spam spouse
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: There's easier ways to do it, I'm sure.... more so than spamming a seperate channel
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: write a small function to strip out color codes before echoing
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or convert to zmud colors
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: which is what I do :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: it entails essentially one line of code using subregex
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i would have expected two lines
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, the meat is in one line, but yes, it is actually 3 lines total :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I am using cmud, so the last line is a #RETURN
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: #RETURN (%subregex( $string, $pattern, "") + "")
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: colors
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: #RETURN (%subregex( $string, $pattern, "") + "")
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, I am trying to level so I will give this up atm :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know why the latest version of flash player would cause videos played with iplayer to be split in half and doubled up?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or any solution thereof
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seems this has to do with Adobe's fascination with releasing a new update every 3 and a half minutes. Their latest version of flash is buggy, solved with a downgrade
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dunno why tv websites couldn't just use standard media files instead of forcing us to use adobe crap anyway
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Hi
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: How do I work out (1-1/x) ^ 5 please?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: well, not 'work out', but simplify
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: its already simply? you mean expand?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Well I guess so.....
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I figured once I expanded it it might end up in a simpler form
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: But for a start yes, expand
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I'm sure its very simply, I just can't remember the applicable rule
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: simple*
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: besides trying to multiply out (1-1/x)(1-1/x)(1-1/x)(1-1/x)(1-1/x)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it doesn't really make it any simpler
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Ok, but theoretically, what is the fastest way to expand that?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: use the coefficients from pascal's triangle
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: the binomial coefficients
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-|Cabal|- Hodor Tech: How do I quickly see the roomid of the room i'm in?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Is that simple?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I'm not a maths guru.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: (1+1/n)^n=e when n->inf
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Oh, its to do with logarithms?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it'll be 1 - 5(1/x) + 10(1/x^2)-10(1/x^3)+5(1/x^4)-(1/x^5)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: e^(-i(pi)) = 1
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: no, people are throwing random stuff out now :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: misread what he wanted, sry :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Objlower
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav clears his throat loudly and looks around.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: i'm looking for a good web tutorial because formatting on channels sucks
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: speaking of which. what does the bracket with one number above and one number below mean in binomial expansion?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: http://www.themathpage.com/aprecalc/binomial-theorem.htm
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Uh, so do logarithms even come into it?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i mean within the brackets
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: no, logarithms do not come into it
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: cross products
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: brackets? or parentheses?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: what is the probability math will get you some?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: are you sure? It seems that question was asking for "simplify", I was expecting the solution to be a lot simpler than that.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: torunkes, exactly 1.0 if you're me
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it is already as simplified as it can be imo but if you paste the entire problem it would be easier to help.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: don't even have the whole question, wish I did
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, (1-1/x) doesn't really say whether that's 1 - 1/x, or 1-1 / x...the second is pretty easy to simplify ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: according to standard order of operations it's not (1-1)/x :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: maybe its the answer to the question..?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: actually yeah, thanks abelinc
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I think this guy has typed it out wrong
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not quite true, majic
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but (1-1)/x is 0/x
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: eh?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since we can't see the size of the /
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: when written across like this, division comes before subtraction.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: now I'm confused, guess it can't be 0/x
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: goodness knows why I have logs in my head
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: problem is that it likely wasn't written across like this
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I'd get the guy to post the whole question to me but I think he went AFK to take drugs
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: of course it wasn't, but if it were (1-1)/x, firstly it would be a stupid trick problem, secondly lenia would have entered it wrong
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: that is why I said 'according to standard order of operations'
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: someone could learn how to use parentheses
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both of which are quite highly probable
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I guess its definitely (1-1/x)^5
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: meaning, assuming lenia didn't enter it wrong
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: not ((1-1)/x) ^ 5
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: horrible assumption
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but you said (1-1/x) doesn't really say ... and it does. if lenia meant something else, she entered it wrong.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: and we've ascertained that she didn't.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: what exactly are you trying to do, expand it?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: apparently "simplify"
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: apparently
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats the simplest form...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: and I'm not expecting it to be remotely complicated
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: lenia, the only possible way i could think of to make it any simpler is to notice that (1-1/x) is (x-1)/x, and expand the numerator and denominator separately.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: simplify is a very poor word to apply, they probably meant 'expand', but if it's high school level it's possible that the teacher just uses 'simplify' when she means 'expand' :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: assuming this guy has moronically only pasted half the question
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: could Anadorr Tech: (1+1/n)^n=e when n->inf apply?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: they apply simplify in too a liberal context and without specific instructions..
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: no, it absolutely could not
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: why?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: he's taking a limit, what level math are you working on?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it doesnt apply
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I'm not working on any maths
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: but this is apparently A-level
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: what level math are you trying to help someone on then? :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: if 5 is the limit of "infinity" maybe. =D
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nad if x = 5...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}-|Cabal|- Hodor Tech: It's where one of my hands runs out... not yet infinity but a big number to be sure
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: that too
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: the reason we know it doesn't apply is that saying 'x is 5' does not mean 'x goes to infinity' -- it is probably just to give him practice with expanding things using the binomial coefficients
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: where are you taking your A levels lenia?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it's not lenia, it's someone else who pasted the question to her :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: oh
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: pfft, I'm not even gonna waste my time any more
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: but its gonna irk me now
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: yeah anyway about A levels, there's a big variance of difficulty from say the uk standard.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: he got back to me saying "oh, maybe it meant expand then, or something"
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change lenia to 'guy that posted the problem'...question still applies...what course is this from?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it's an A level, she said
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: like I said, A level maths
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an a level doesn't answer what course...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: there are different a level maths globally
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well there is no simplified form of that, here is the expansion... 1 - 5/x + 10/x^2 - 10/x^3 + 5/x^4 - 1/x^5
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Uh, A level maths UK?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: that's what I said a while back :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: who knows specifically which exam board....
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: expand (x - 1/x)^5, simplying the coefficients
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: but i'm guessing (1 - 1/x)^5 would require just basic binomial theorem
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: that's the full question, apparently
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: x-1/x is diferent than 1-1/x :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: here's another tutorial on pascal's triangle which is somewhat more basic, http://www.wtamu.edu/academic/anns/mps/math/mathlab/col_algebra/col_alg_tut54_bi_theor.htm
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: OMG
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: send him the link and tell him to do his own revision :D
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: just go to wolfram alpha
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: pass him a dictionary with the answer 1 - 5/x ...........
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: wolfram alpha won't help him on his exams :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: what a total idiot
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: whats to help its multiplication across... seriously its not even "math"
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: even I can work that one out
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: My son (18 months) brings me a cable, I say to him "What's this?" he doesn't answer, so I say "It's a 4-pin molex to SATA splitter" he looks at me, turns, and walks away. :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: he's just finished smoking a fat doobie that's why
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: rofl
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: he is not even doing A level maths
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: Leonassan that is awesome
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: didn't think that would be a level :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i'm guessing its Ordinary level?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: he just bought the books because he wants to sharpen up his mind after 5 years of constant weed smoking
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: O levels don't exist any more
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: hahahaha. he should probably start with a gcse revision for adults then, seriously
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: who are you talking about
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: if he's forgotten how to expand stuff like that i think an A level would be too difficult for him :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Lenia, tell him that the best way to sharpen up his mind after 5 years of smoking weed is to start smoking amphetamine.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: oh, he already has A level maths
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: but that was 5 years ago
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: Thanks Starling, I'll be sure to pass on your advice
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: start adderall... helps him study =X
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: i was serious though. basically about every year you take off without doing math will set you back about a half-year's worth of learning, on average, and smoking pot accelerates that :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: he should find something on 'gcse revision for busy adults' and whip through it quickly to remind himself, then start over :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I don't see how getting toked up before a maths session is really going to help him anyway
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats retarded. i went 3 years between multivariable and complex and smoked about 50 pounds of weed during that time and my grade improved between the two
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nope
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: i said 'on average' herodotus
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: maybe
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: wasnt my experiecne
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: experience either
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: although, wow, I bet binomial expansion on weed does have its up sides
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not train luck, just know that those 3 VERY often come as a set
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: weed helps with creativity... so maybe if he's a genius to start with and needs some help to creatively figure out some complex math formula...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: if binomial expansion is "complex" change to business major or drop out
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: Wow, huge burn out of nowhere on business majors :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lenia Tech: I seriously doubt this guy is gonna be innovating life-changing formulae anytime soon.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nothing wrong with business majors, they don't need higher math though
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: or medium math... or knee height math....
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can i display a list on the invdata format for a container?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leonassan falls down laughing.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr, invdata
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: It's funnier because in high school the "idiot math" wasn't life skills, it was business math
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: thanks. I tried that, must have mistyped...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I've seen all 3 moons and the moon plugin was working fine earlier, but after closing my client it doesn't show up. any ideas?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you saw all 3 moons before or after closing your client?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: before
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that doesn't help :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't know what happened while it was closed
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: moons scripts are only valid with info from after the client started
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it were closed for 20 secs vs closed for 2 hours, much different outcome on the moons
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: so everytime i close the client i'll have to wait for the 3 moons before it shows up again?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: theres no way for it to know how many ticks have passed while it was closed
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod of course
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, or some scripts let you get the current status from others
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: theres a broadcaster you can use to send it to another
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yea is there any sysinfo or something you can ping that'll show the current moons?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: If you keep track of the last tick you've seen it is possible to calculate how many ticks have passed since the last tick you saw (when you log back on) and calculate it from there
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see current moons, but not the timing of their next rise/fall
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: they dont follow a known order?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: They each have their own durations, it's cyclical
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but the order is dependent on knowing when they last rose/fell, not on looking up and seeing which are in the sky now
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: demonspawn, calculating ticks won't work for long periods...ticks are "around" 30 seconds, so drift will occur, and of course reboots/ice ages would interrupt it
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: True
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: But it works in a lot of situations
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: that drift is small, the average tick is 30.18 seconds
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: and they stick pretty close to that, it takes along time of being offline to break it
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: and normally an reboot happens before that happens
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: If a reboot happens though all the moons start at the same point everytime
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: I think they all start up?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: So you could calculate the current moon position from ticks since reboot
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm sure they start at the same point, have never typed weather tho, too busy with qreset ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ice Mage Demonspawn nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Just need a gmcp option for realtime info
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Then life would be easy :p
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Has it rebooted since last I was one? Yes/no, calculate.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my most-useful change to the moons script I use is to drop the -->TICK<-- trig and use option102 (now using gmcp)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ice Mage Demonspawn nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ok so my moons plugin showed up, how can I assure it'll keep working after closing? or should I just not close my client :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the second
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: heh, ok then :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc online since : Sat Feb 5 15:58:40 2011
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aardwolf last restarted on : 15:58:43 - Saturday 05 Feb, 2011
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Abelinc: online even before the MUD restarts. ;)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's talent, baby :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: hi all, I have the statmon plugin and it captures my stats and quests fine, but it doesn't seem to include my CP's, any ideas?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Have you done a CP while you've activated it?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: indeed i -just- finished one
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: the miniwin_stats one I think it is.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: you need to type 'mcp CP toggle' each time you take a CP
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_stats
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: daak that works fine for me now I dont' have to do that.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: it automatically shows/removes my CP window
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: oh, lucky you ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Hmms.. I wondered too, but after i did a CP and a GQ it popped up. How about the corresponding broadcasts?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I went through basts' plugins one by one and installed them until I got everything the way I want.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I had some weird error earlier about a broadcast
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: a runtime error...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I restart mush when I get runtime errors
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: http://pastebin.com/s9vkaa2U
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: there may be another way to restart the plguin, I dunno
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: file -> plugins -> select plugin -> push 'reinstall'
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod I just did
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: The miniwin_tabwin plugin helps with seeing which windows are showm/hidden, I had problems with quest/cp minwins disappearing before I used that
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I have that installed as well.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: miniwin_tabwin or miniwin_tabbar?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: in that miniwindow the stats and quests tabs are shown, none others, and I believe i have all the corresponding plugins install
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: tabwin
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, tabwin
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Ah, how about StatDB?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod that is installed as well
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I will restart my client after this quest, but I did pastebin my earlier runtime error.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Sonofa... Okay i'm running out of easy solutions lol.. my friend had a similar problem, but it was just his statDB he forgot. XD
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: well beggars can't be choosers, I love having so much info available to me :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Plugins are testy testy things. Think i've spent more time fiddling with settings then actually playing.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tezaal agrees wholeheartedly
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: the only other issue i'm having is for the Statmonitor plugin, when I type statmon rep I get the game-side command of (syntax: statmon on|off)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: right after my run-time error it showed the info once, but i hadn't typed that command so I'm not sure why.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: k my cp's works in the miniwin after restarting client :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: hehe, awesome. :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've installed statmon and statdb, and I'm getting the same error as tezaal, it seems to be failing to open the database, it fails an assert in chardb, calling into sqlitedb, function checkfortable, if that means anything to anyone
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: how do I export my mapper database to another machine.. :P?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: close mush, copy Aardwolf.db from the worlds folder
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: ahh, so the aardwolf.db folder? I just copy pasta with mush closed?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah and the one with bookmarks in the name aardwold_bookmarks.db or something like that.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: by folder, I mean file :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be a file
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: alright, thanks everyone =)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardmush page has a thing on how to upgrade, which includes moving settings & stuff
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: is that a standard sqlite db or is it all funky
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sqlite
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Standard SQlite.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: rock.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: on.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: off
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: about
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: not really upgrading.. just, switching machines :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ive seen mixed reviews on which tools work to directly access it though, but I'm not sure if people were trying to open it while mush is open
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: switching machines is identical to upgrading
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardmush is a self-contained folder
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haruon nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so a new aardmush is a separate folder
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: i.e. its portable
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: so I just download Aardmush, put the folder somewhere, copy certain files from old mush to new mush, and my settings/database will transfer over?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if the new machine doesn't have mush, then switching machines is as easy as copying the mushclient folder
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: haruon http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haruon nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: mushclient is awesome in that it is completely stand-alone portal
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you could just copy the whole mush folder, you dont need to download/install then copy certain files just copy the whole dir
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haruon nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: well, my current mush client is on my laptop, but its an old version, planning to download a new version on my desktop, just wanna transfer my mapper database and my settings over
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, i put mush in my dropbox so my settings are always synced :p
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: good idea!!!
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ah yeah then you should see upgrade page
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: ooh drop box is a good idea :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: except it could lag a bit
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's also runnable directly from flash drive...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it doesn't lag
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I dont like how it has to upload -every single time-
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats cool almost everything i run from dropbox lags
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I can imagine lag during a raid wouldn't turn out nice
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it only uploads modified files
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lag rarely turns out nice
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so stuff like the state files, which are only a few kb
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and it doesn't upload while in use?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, have there been any big groups since the gmcp group fix on the last OC run?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it depends on if/how its locked
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: might have something to do with my dropbox location, it always lags like crazy
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what version is your dropbox?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: 0.7.110
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's currently 1.0.2 :p
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hey look at that
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: watch it lag worse when i update... lol
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: doesnt seem like it should matter, but think having it on 8 hosts with same account makes a difference in the lag of a single particular host?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i dunno, i don't see how it should even cause any lag regardless
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: considering files appear to be downloaded locally rather than run from the web
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yes but for example, we used it for a flash project once and everytime someone edited a file it would lag on all of our dev machines while the update propegated
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: we dont do that anymore because it was a significant hinderance
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pretty sure it doesn't propagate while in use anymore
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ill have to check out the new version
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but it was that way since i started using it last year, shrug
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: weve been on this version since august lol
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've removed the miniwin_stats plugin (kept erroring) and my quest miniwin disappeared from miniwin_tabwin, so I removed and reinstalled tabwin and now I can't get the tabwin to show at all, tried 'mtab tabwin toggle' to no avail, tried 'mtab tabwin reset' too, any ideas?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: did you restart client?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I did, but not since reseting...I'll try again
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: do that every time
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, restarted client and it's still not showing
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats how mine was for a week, one day just magically worked....
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: but my install is seriously screwed up anyway
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mifu Tech: hi there guys i got an issue with my client i think its the latest one i got from the site R336 i think not sure but i would like to know how to zoom out of the tracker ?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you talking about the mapper window? Select it and move hte mouse wheel.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: try scrolling your mouse wheel down, if you're talking about the mapper.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: mouse over the window first, then move the mouse wheel.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mifu Tech: sigh so obvious didnt htink that the windows were that interactive ... damn you mouse wheel ... sorry for noob question
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no worries, I found out by accident.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: thats what she said
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I do it all the time by accident....been meaning to suggest turning that mouse wheel option off as an option.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lol
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, i make it a point to keep my mouse pointer in the main output now most of the time.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mifu Tech: i must of gotten over excited and somehow went fingered the wheel too much
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mifu Tech: ok that sounded wrong my bad
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod that one works for me
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: sorry mischan
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've just seen the screenshots for bast's v6 spellup plugin, looks very nice, anyone got any rough idea when v6 is likely to be released?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yesterday he said he -might- release it this weekend since progress is being made, but his title also says 'DO NOT ASK ME ABOUT V6' so I'd not bother him ;)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, I was expecting it to be a while yet, so that sounds excellent :) I won't mention it but I'll keep an eye out on the site
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ooh that does look cool!
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: is there anyway to send your remorted classes via gmcp?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, which classes you have (other than pclass/subclass) are not in any gmcp package
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: am i missing out on "significant" performance, both in everyday usage and also stuff like video editing, by only using 32bit XP with an Intel Core 2 Quad (Q6600) processor ?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How much RM?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Er, how much RAM
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: 4gb
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: the big thing is you can't go over 4gb of RAM (which I think shows in Windows 32-bit as like 3.4GB
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: h mmm yeah only 3.07 GB seems to be recognized
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Can't XP only actually use 3GB? Or at least only 3GB for a single app
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yeah...
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: its the 32 bit limitation
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Got onboard video? It'll use some "shared" RAM for that, too.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: depends on how much "other memory" you have in that machine... on video card for example
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: 512mb radion 3600
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: given that im not a big fan of linux, and have no windows 7 license...not erally missing TOO much with only 32bit ?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I'd think you might run into issues with editing large video files, but not much for every day usage, unless you're the type that likes to have tons of stuff open at once.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Unless your applications are available at 64 bit, you won't gain much by switching to a 64 bit OS over what you've already got
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: thanks :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: True, just for having lots of things going at a time
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just don't by more ram thinking you're upgrading ;p
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: buy*
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Given that I can still barely find an editor for AVCHD, can't do much editing anyway
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm wierd how lua doesn't throw an error when you divide by zero.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Dividing by zero isn't an error, it's just undefined
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Wondered why this black hole just appeared in my desk
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well I'm used to C and such that throw an error....it's actually handy though in this case.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: > =1/0 -> inf
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: 0/0 -> NaN
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is there a way to add a clan spellup to bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: anyone know how to turn off the tick timer in the new version of MUSH? its messing up with wine
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Hey, does anyone have or know of a script that calculates xp per minute?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which client?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: for MUSHclient
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Bast's statmon reporter will do that.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Finger bast for it.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I use that, how do I find that info?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Type statmn rep 1
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And setup a timer that runs that every minute.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: finally that works!!!!
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: the command on his codepage sys "statmon rep" so its the same statmon as the game command
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ty mendaloth!!!!
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lytebane dont know if you saw that
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yeah I sometimes find those are a little off, just poke around in the plugin and you can get the real name.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod indeed
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: h -20
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: any clues as to why my mush alias keep disapearing everytime i reload mush?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: are you forgetting to save the world? (CTRL-S)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: ... or they may be set to temporary
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: it asked to save on exit and i clicked save
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jinfun Tech: anyone know about adding the miniwindow for health bar?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: ok whats the story if you start a goal. in goals it is listed as open, but tasklist says you have no unfinished tasks?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: each goal must first be opened. Usually you will then get some tasks opened, but otherwise tasks must be separately triggered.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: some goals will have points where there are no open tasks, but as far as I remember those points are always later in the goal.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: well its the verume goal. i got the task to fetch the fur. go getthe fur. return to high priest. im supposed to give him the fur and i get the next task. give it to him he dont want it. tasklist says i have no incomplete and yet the fur one isnt done
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: is there a shortcut key to cycle between miniwins in mushlcient?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Don't think so.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone familiar with visual c# express 2010, and know how to get a class diagram view,.... I can't seem to find it
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: anyone knows how come i can't enable lua scripting in aard's mushclient?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is enabled automatically, what do you mean by enabled?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: i go into world properties>Scripts, and even tho the enable script checkbox is marked, theres a little bracket there which says (inactive)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, never seen that before
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: haha nvm i'm a retard, i solved it.. i'm trying to pick up lua, only have substantial java experience
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: How do you solve being a retard?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: its hard
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are area repops sent via GMCP, or do people just have a shi-..er.. a lot of triggers, one for each area?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes they are
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but they contain no info
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: tags repop on
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Ah.. Thank you.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: not gmcp, plain mud text
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burke Tech: In the char.base packet of GMCP, the format is: char.base { "name": Lasher, "class": Warrior, "subclass": Soldier... What happens for multi-class? And if that just shows pclass only - is there a way to determine the order of the other classes a player is?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: not from gmcp no
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burke Tech: kk, ty
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Send a finger command with a one-shot trigger to capture the classes?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: set up a trigger on "---------------- Player : %%gmcp.char.base.name (Online) --------------"
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Burke nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: then if the remort line is there, read it in (might do a trigger case : nextline 4)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burke Tech: Fair enough - I was hoping I could be lazy.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Be REALLY lazy - have the user set their classes manually
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burke Tech: haha
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burke Tech: And the only way to set them is with a command line argument when starting the client.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: No, they have to hex-edit the client binary
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Burke Tech: Even better.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Hack aardwolf and change teh GMCP definitons
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hrm, is there any way to 'trigger' on an event from a program on a linux system? IE, tt++ segmentation fault, execute tt++
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can write a script wrapper that runs an infinite loop and checks for the executable each time, and then executes it if the script can't find it
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tehe normal way to do this is to wrap tt++ in a script that restarts it if it crashes
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: too slow... :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Are you finding that tt+ segfaults often?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: anyone have a link, or pastebin or something that demonstrated that?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Only on 10.10, something with how it reacts with the buffer.c and the new version of glibc
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ubuntu 10.10, that is
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you build from source or use a binary?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Had to build from source since upgrading to 10.10, the binary won't work at all
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I wonder if it's a 64 bit issue
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Could be, i am on a 64 bit version
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I don't think my spouse has any issues with it, and he uses the same exact setup but i think he's on a 32 bit
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: cheez, sent you a note, but board ate the #!/bin/sh in the first line
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, just looked
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: Ok serious question, does anyone have JUST a cp capture window for the mush client? Without everything else?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you use tt++ or z/cmud, that's prolly what ate that line
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: probaby
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes six
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, tt++ style clients don't like shebang lines :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I do, Six.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more the # than the !/bin/sh ;-)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: \#! /path/to/foo ftw :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: can anyone give me proper areas/room names from a list of vnums?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: my mapper goofed on 25 rooms, and I'm not sure what their originals are
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: walk through them again?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: o.0 wait.. I can prob. just run 1 room before then, and be bordering them
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: heh, or that.. nm
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't think bordering them would add the room name
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, ran, i aliases tt++ to that script, to call the actual tt++ with my config settings, is there any way to make a segfault happen to check though? Just exiting the client doesn't make it restart.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try kill
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Kill doesn't make it restart either
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: kill -11
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Signal 11 should be segfault
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try pressing ctrl backspace
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or just pkill -9 tt++
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first I'd just do a full ps with it still running to make sure that the script is still running
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so maybe it did work
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Had to reload terminal to update .bashrc (forgot), but when i call the alias to the script, it can't find my other bash alias to load the program
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: scripts don't know aliasees
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need a script to use an alias...put what the alias resolvs to into the script
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Or make sure your script is sourcing .bashrc
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Birdbrain Metria.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aliases exist to make you typing stuff easier...you don't repeatedly type into the script, so they don't care about them by default
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: respawn wrapper scripts also don't usually deal well with a controlling terminal...they're made for daemons
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, got it working i think
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Had to change it from calling another alias to screen -s tt++ tt++ ~/tintin/cheezburger.tt
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not true abe, it works fine... except you need to be more bbrutal when you actually want to stop the program
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: and it does reload on kill now :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: thanks guys :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, didn't say they don't work, just not meant for it
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's just a while loop, meant to do many things.....
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It'll be a nice work around until scandum can get the crash issue fixxed :)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you work with tt++ devs to get the segfault fixed though :-)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, i've been working with scandum on it for a couple months now
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: No need to be brutal. Have the script check for a file (eg ~/.stoptt) in the loop.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Daesilme, in complete agreement.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Or just close the whole terminal running it
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much identical to the startup script the MUD codebases ship with
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme nods.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If you close the terminal running the program, then it doesn't restart it, only if the program itself dies
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what they meant, cheez
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to really quit w/o a respawn
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What would be in the stop script? might ass well add it, might need it later
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: within the while loop, have an if -e filename
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: while [ ! -e filename ]
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: while [ ! -e ~/.stoptt] for the while loop
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was this a sh, bash or csh?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: All together now? *grin*
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: bash
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I changed the /bin/sh in the original to point to bash (more comfortable with bash)
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Isn't /bin/sh on Linux typically a symlink to bash anyway?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yup
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It could be, i just usually put bash to be safe
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or hardlink
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, not sure it is
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You can put /bin/bash, but it means your scripts will not be portable. If you're just writing for you, who cares. If you're going to share or distribute, you probably want to use /bin/sh
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: type which sh, it' points to /bin/sh, so i type sh, and it changes prompt to my SH prompt instead of my BASH prompt
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ls -l /bin/sh
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: On Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, /bin/sh is a link to dash
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, it is a link --> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2010-12-25 21:50 /bin/sh -> dash
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and ls -l /bin/bash...check for symlink, and check for identical size
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: da, not ba?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: yeah, dash
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nod, da
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dead again sh?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lmfao
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anti bourne :P
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well bash was borne again, so?
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: dash is a descendant of BSD's ash
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Debian Almquist shell. A small POSIX-compliant shell that is faster than bash.
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what's in /usr/pkgsrc/shells/dash/DESCR
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Tries to be as small as possible while being POSIX-compliant
T3/r2/2011-02-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: according to man dash it basically uses POSIX regulations to try and make it work the same (antiquated commands etc) as bash
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: would anyone know about how much a decent video card for a labtop is, i was trying to find one on newegg to no avail
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: has anyone used v6 of basts plugins yet?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: hello, whenever i log in via mushclient i can send only 1 command then it freeze then have to recconect.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: One specific command, or any command?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: anything even a blank
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: do you stay connected when not sending anything?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: try turning off plugins. If the freeze goes away, perhaps something happened to one of them.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Is it only when you connect to aardwolf? Can you connect to other places ok?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or perhaps a couple of them are producing triggerable output for each other, resulting in an endless loop
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: its my 1st time using a mushclient
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: i havent tried other places except aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: why is it when i do multiples of something (buy 10 pot in a shop) or (put all.pot in bag) my prompt spams for that many items?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: thanks anyway, il try to disable the pluggings later.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you have invmon turned on.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: have you upgraded to v6, that should go away
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: oh didn't know v6 was out
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon doesn't give prompts
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I think one of the plugins required invmon thats why I had it on?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: btw bast nice spellup plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon being on is a good thing for plugins, yes
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, several of mine require it, but I forgot to take out the part where it also does an invdetails for every item you buy, get or put
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Orogan: Thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: capital! cant wait to check it out
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if not in database, then invdetails
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: bast, do we do the same steps to upgrade from v5 to v6 as on the website?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: right, but it has a sister tag called invdetails or something that gives you the item specifics. Some situations have a bunch of those tags followed by one invmon tag, while others do one invdetails tag followed immediately by an invmon tag. If you have a script on invmon that, say, sends an inventory or invdata command and hides the output it receives, you'd get multiple prompts (if your prompt was turned on, at least)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: see: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Installation
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that has a section for upgrading
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ty bast, you're awesome!
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right dokkar, invmon being on is not what causes the prompts...the plugin sending multiple commands to the MUD is
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: Bast, do you think you can make an inventory mini-win next?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is possible that one will be in v7, but it isn't a small task
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: i found an inventory miniwin, but its not that great
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: cant look in a container for example
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, I have to design a database and then design a miniwindow that isn't so complicated that no one can use it
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's wrong with the one mentioned on the gammon site?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i found one by Blainer that works but it crashed at random times and he also stopped working on it years ago.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I seem to remember one that had a popup miniwindow similar to the minimap legend that let you see in containers.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: is there a way to make bast's miniwins on top of everything else
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: the default stat plugin on the aardclient blocks it
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: actually, I already have the miniwindow part, but it seemed pointless unless I get the data into a database
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't change the order of the miniwindows yet, it is based on windowname and you can't change the windowname of my miniwindows
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: great, thanks for what's already done, its really really slick :)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: bast for president, here here!
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this isn't some crackpot south american republic
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: aw nuts
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ouch :(
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (though the similarities are stark)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: /political undertones
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it wasn't that hard on the CMud side, Bast. There were two major problems I ran into, though. Random symbolics were getting interpreted as special characters, and the invmon tag situation I mentioned that made large item grabs/drops super-spammy and lockupable.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the real problem is that with invmon, you can't get the coloured name of the item unless you do an invdetails, and that slows down everything, not to mention spams people with crs
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not true anymore
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Do I need Aardwolf_Spellups_mw_Bast.xml anymore if using the new v6 spellup stuff?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: i used to program for cmud and i ran into that exact problem with item coloring
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: quite frustrating, and i did do the invdetails thing, very unwieldy
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: oh bast, for your statmonitor plugin, you have the syntax on the website as 'statmon rep' but its actually 'statmn rep'
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: fixed
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I mentioned the wrong tag. Invdetails is for all the detailed info and gets really spammy. I was referring to the invitem tag. Invitem is the same as invdata, but for one item only.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Dokkar: how is that not true, invmon only shows the id, not the name
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which is still an extra command that needs to be run
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: wrong chan, but does anyone know when donations close?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I get no command for invitem
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: umm, invitem is not a command. It's part of invmon support.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the announcement board
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: o right, silly me, thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and you stl
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I still can't figure out a way to get the coloured itemname without running a second command, basically invdata since invdetails doesn't give the name either
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, it helps if you push some of the work to a pure clientside operation instead of always depending on capture work.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: how do I use a pure clientside op if I don't have the info to begin with, I have to get it from the mud somehow
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just make some colors up, I think that's what he means.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, if I save it to a db, I don't have to ask the mud again, but I have to get it from the mud at least once
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: which plugin am i updating to get rid of the prompt spam from items?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: or just all the v6 ones?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yes to what bast?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: yes, upgrade it all
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: k ty
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what are all the oneshot kill spells/skills? assassinate, slit, deathblow, disintegrate, immolate, anything else?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Terminate, sort of.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not immolate
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: banishment also, bast
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: thanks abe, that one didn't have a wiki page
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: under combat that is
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: my parents have DSL through their phone line, and every time they start their treadmill, it cuts their internet out... any thoughts?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: do they have a filter on the line?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: get lazier parents?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: why a treadmill would affect your internet idk, maybe interference somehow
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lol sue
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Put the DSL modem on a UPS
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: call your provider
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: but to actually help. does it stay off as long as the treadmill is on?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: from what they tell me, yes
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i dont know what you mean by filter, but they have a cable modem and router
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: UPS isnt a bad idea, could also try to move it to a different circuit.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: cable modem? or DSL?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: my apologies, but could you describe what UPS means?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: DSL uses filters on the phone line to filter the phone and internet signal seperately
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Uninterruptible Power Supply
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: DSL is not the same as cable.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does it go off, or do you just lose connection?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: does the modem still have power when the treadmill is on?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: it loses internet connection
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: but it still has power?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: some of their details on this problem were pretty vague though:P
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: the computer? yes it still has power
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: the modem, not the computer
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does the modem lose connection, or does the computer?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ahh i will have to ask them, what if the modem doesn't lose power / what if it does?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: if the modem loses power then that's your problem and the treadmill is pulling too much current from the circuit. I'd kinda expect a breaker to blow if that was happening though...
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if the modem keeps power, keeps connection, but pc loses connection, emi is at fault
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if the modem keeps power, but loses connection, probably dodgy house wiring
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: the only other thing I can think of is that the treadmill motor is going to spit out TONS of EMI, so if the treadmill is near a long run of phone cord that might be your problem.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Boy Named Sue wildly nods his head at Tigernuts... he seems to be in total awe.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: we had an issue without our DSL that we'd lose internet (modem-side) everytime there was a thunderstorm, verizon told us it was shoddy copper wiring
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: with* our dsl, and now we have FiOS :)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: fios is clutch
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you should be unplugging your modem from the phone point in a thunderstorm
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: pretty much verizon's answer to everything
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: well no it turns out when we had our house renovation done, the idiot workers did a crappy job reconnecting our phone box outside, so verizon fixed that
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i will investigate further, thanks!
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: my laptop smells like burning :(
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: that would be double plus ungood.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: what kind of smell? burning plastic or other? if other could be dust build up.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Burning balls
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: didnt even think of that.. maybe ill try blowing it out with air
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: on the plus side, the automatic shutdown is functioning just fine
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: any websites with cmud scripts?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Get the instant gq win one
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, there's also a package library you can access from inside CMud itself.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, you can if you paid for your copy of CMud...can't use it if you're still on trial.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anywho, I've got two or three packages of mine up there in the Library (Aardskies, Aardstats, AardQuests), and I'm busying myself with fixing up a fourth one, a gigantic monster called AardMap
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Nice, what kind of scripts are currently available?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in the library, aside from my own, there's some older statmon/tags/telopts stuff and some reporter things.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in the library, with the lead piping
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there is also lots of stuff created for other games and for nonspecific mudding in general
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vexthorne nods at Dokkar.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the libary was subject to a few longstanding bugs that were more recently fixed, so it gained a bit of a reputation of being unreliable. Other than that, it's full of dinosaurs and tentative learning attempts that we all want to delete but can't.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Kinda like the SourceForge :/
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What is good to read about MUSHclient plugin variable scope? I am having trouble getting my head around when I can just assign a variable value and when I have to use SetVariable.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you want it to be used in your plugin, you don't have to SetVariable. If you want it to be available to all of Mushclient and other scripts, use SetVariable
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I want a table to be available to multiple functions in the same plugin.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then just assign it, you don't need SetVariable for that, and you can't use tables in SetVariable anyway
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: is there somewhere i can download an older version of the aard client?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why do you want an older version?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: i put the new version on a new computer and im having issues, wasnt really going to submit as a bug cause im on linux/wine, want to see if maybe theres something in the new version causing this
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: *I* use linux and wine.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: report your problems
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you need an old snapshot, I can put one together for you, but I don't keep them around just because
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: hah, alright. well, any idea why every tick, its as if the alt key on my keyboard is getting pressed?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that won't be fixed by using an older version
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I have that problem occasionally when I alt-tab out to other programs
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try up or downgrading wine?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: i figured as much, but i was hoping so, my other computer is also linux/wine, but its having some heating issues at the moment
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use wine 1.0 on Ubuntu 10.10, fyi
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually I think it's 1.0.1
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it happens to me sometimes, but to be honest it also happened to me sometimes using real Windows XP
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just hit alt and shift and the windows key a bunch of times :)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: thats usually my solution
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: yeah.. i get to press alt every 30 seconds...
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it happens on every tick?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, sometimes it happens to me, too. w7 and zmud
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pretty annoying when you're suddenly using random damn menu bar buttons while typing
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suspect this is just a problem with windows, but if it's reliably happening on tick please report it
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or in this case Wine
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: give me as much detail as you can
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I don't have any problem with it happening randomly, it only seems to happen when I alt-tab back in from something else. gterminal, or firefox, for instance.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: same for me, metria
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: anybody know how to redirect tracert output to a log file on windows?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: like in linux you'd do traceroute host > output.log
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: tracert some.host.whatever > somefile
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: same thing
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: oh, so it is that simple
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: is anybody else having hangups on their trip to aardwolf?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Define hangups?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: None here, that i've noticed.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm not, and I'm on the crappy savvis network.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i've tried several other servers located from california to nova scotia, but my path to aardwolf has * time time , time * time, and the time's are sometimes 3x higher than the previous hop
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: of course, I'm probably still going to Chicago and back, like when going to the simutronics servers.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so maybe it's the particular route my packets go through
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sounds like it
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reinzeld Tech: Just installed the new version of MUSHclient for Aard, can someone tell me how to get a spellup plugin for it?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://bastmush.googlecode.com
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: finger bast
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: finger known mushclient users, download, install...profit!
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: how to reset the client windows to defaults?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: on mush? maybe open plugins and disable them
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Delete the state files
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: reset aardwolf, will do it maybe?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: deleting the state files will not actually set them to default
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: just cause ive been playing around with my layout and it is ugly now
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: My bad.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need the original state files
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Drakoth: just move them into the old positions.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: surely you can undo anything you did
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or come up with something better
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: doesn't 'reset aardwolf' set them back to defaults?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not exactly
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: resetaard only affects the main output
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it doesn't affect the other bits
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: where are the areas from teh GMCP mapper saved/stored in case someone has to reinstall mush but doesn't want to re-map everything?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's instructions on the aardmush site on upgrading/moving
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Aardwolf.db and Aardwolf_bookmark.db, do not copy with mush open
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh k, ty daak
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: is there any plugin to do the 'hunt' trick automatically/faster than typing it out?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The hunt trick being..?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: if there are 20 'guards' in an area, hunt 1.guard hunt 2.guard until you can't hunt that #.guard, then using 'where #.guard' to find it.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: metria, help hunt trick ;-)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: umm, you could google "mushclient hunt trick plugin" and pick the 3rd link?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ty always-wise bast :)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that site is also listed in help www :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: wow that is perfect
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armadeadn Tech: ok i just updated to newest mush. and the new mapper has reset all my explored rooms. anyway to fix this ?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Did you follow the upgrade instructions, or just copy stuff around willy-nilly?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: did you make a backup?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armadeadn Tech: yeah i made a backup. just incase. and no i didnt follow instructions lol.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You copied empty databases (the ones shipped with Mushclient) over your existing ones
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: close mushclient and copy the Aardwolf.db and Aardwolf_notes.db files you backed up in over the existing ones.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Since Mushclient doesn't need to be installed, you shouldn't copy upgrades over existing installs - just give it a whole new directory and copy your databases in.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armadeadn Tech: just glanced over the instructions on the site now. thanks.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Make sure you exit mushclient before you do aything with the databases! I can't stress just how important that is
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armadeadn Tech: yey my mapper is fixed thanks guys.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: can mushclient map text that is set to display to the output in a trigger?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: err match text*
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Trigger on a trigger, you mean?
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: no, I mean the GMCP mapper plugin sends the resulting text to the output, I want it to match that text and then execute an action
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: Is there anyway to have aard send me only the comm.channel gmcp message and not the actual channel text? Not a huge deal, I know I can just gag the channels, just curious.
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, there is no current way to do that...best way to gag it is to have tags channels on, and then trigger on {chan ch=foo}
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: cool thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the aardmushclient comes with a channel capture plugin that lets you easily choose whether to see it in main window or not
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: not my corpse, an NPC
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: anyone know what this is {chan ch=clantalk}
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags channels
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: ah, gotchya, thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags channels off will get rid of it...it's there to make things like channel capture scripts cake to make
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type just tags to see other categories of things like that
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: cool, thanks alot
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone know what the command is to use bast's planes mob plugin it doesnt seem to have info that i can find
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: AYE!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using the Potion Quaffer that's on Bast's website?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: is there any possible way to import your aliases from zmud to mush
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i doubt it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: man
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: shouldn't be hard
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: oh yeah?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there a bunch of pre-made plug-ins for mush for most purposes already out there
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ever used mush?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: way too complicated
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: I downloaded it yesterday
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for anything else, if you wrote them to start with, then you should be able to rewrite them for mush
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: maybe theres a way to import a notepad file of aliases
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: cause I can export them to notepad
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: from zmud
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9705
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: in an electrical circuit, the components; is the longer pin the positive part?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats not really something you can rely on
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: whats the component?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: mostly anything but for now a capacitor
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: for capacitors, if theres a stripe running down it then its polarized and there should be a - and + or a black and red dot
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: if not its not polarized and doesnt matter
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: btw when making an amplifier do I just use random capicitors lol?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: add as MANY as you can
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: There's definitely a non-zero chance that picking random components will yield a perfectly functioning circuit.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: all circuits are perfectly functioning, none of them alter the laws of physics
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: i guess i passed my n1 last year with luck lol.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: and theres a high chance itll distort like crazy or not work at all. if you are lucky you will let the magic smoke out of somethig
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: for an amplifier, any capacitor will amplify but you definitely need to terminate the circuit based on impedence
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So In mushclient/lua if I capture a line with a trigger, and want to print that line back out again with some added text...is there a way to do that preserving the coloring the mud sent along with it? I can only figure out how to do it by chaning the coloring?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: nonpolarised are superior to polarised (capacitors) ?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and if you don't pick the right resistors fires can occur
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol.. i call it the "magic smoke" too
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Um. No capacitor will ever amplify...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, woohoo, we've broken enthalpy
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: now lets work on Entropy
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: nah im going to make a small one that work with a 9v battery
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ack yeah capacitors dont amplify
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: sorry... transistors...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boy Named Sue Tech: polarized and nonpolarized caps are just different. depends on what your requirements are
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and then on Inertia
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: There's nothing "good" about polarized caps. It's just a somewhat unfortunate side effect of certain constructions.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: im obviously adding a variable resistor
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mendaloth, you'd basically tell the trigger to gag the line (omit from output), then you'd echo the line back, but with style points, looking at the style of the original
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mendaloth: capture the line, omit it from output. I remember that there was some way to query it for array of styles applied to it - and reapply them with ColourTell or something similar. Search gammon's forums, I think I saw plugin or code to simplify all that
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are polarised caps able to hold more electrons than nonpolarised (for the same cost)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: just avoid polarized...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the chat capture plugin is an example of echoing it back with the various original styles
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: thanks for the help and advice people.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: polarized capacitors have high leakage current
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so do old people
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: zing!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But they scream more when you solder 'em in.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: most of them...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: this one lady just giggled. i still have nightmares...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i guess it was more of a cackle...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: can anyone explain how i can manipulate the gmcp data i receive from the mud using mushclient? do i use the gmcphelper plugin?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: manipulate how? the data is just a table to MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hm how do i actually reference the table? I'm trying to extract my char's state for a script, but I have no idea how I can reference the table
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd have a function onpluginbroadcast, looking for the gmcp handler's ID, then do ifs on the state
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: oh great, thanks, is there an API where i can look up function names like onpluginbroadcast?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugins at the bottom of my script page are pretty simple to follow, check out the warfare gag one for an example of using a gmcp value
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (they're simple because I don't actually use MUSH, so I'm not qualified to write more complex stuff ;-)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Huh, anyknow know why the following doesn't work in lua?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: string.match("\(", "\(")
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Gives me an "unfinished capture" error
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Like it's not escaping the parentheses or something
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can do something like Note("\(hi\)") fine
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Same error if I don't try to escape them
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try double or triple backslashes
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because the first part of string.match is a string and the second part is a pattern
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Same errors
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need to either remove the first \ or escape the second, depending your motive
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, lemme look at the function description again, then
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess that could be wrong
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm just wanting to search for ( in a string that might contain a (
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so why are you using match?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as opposed to, say, find
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, that's an oversimplification
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Lemme look at how I'm using it again
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: print(string.match("(","%(")) -> "("
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just gotta figure out how to make that work
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since I'm doing:
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if string.match(string.lower(i), string.lower(wildcards[1])) then
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which worked fine until someone started using parentheses in their strings
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm sure there will be other ways to break it too
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/20.2.html
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, was reading the patterns tutorial on the users wiki now
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So in Mushclient and regex, what exactly does this mean? (.*?) I've used it and understand what it does, but trying to figure out if I can make it so it matches only a few different things, and put those into wildcards. FOr instance I want it to match Your, or any group of character followed by an apostrophe s.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: . is any character. * means any number of times. ? means may or may not be there.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, basically, it can match anything or nothing
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So what part of that puts it into a wildcard then?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The ()
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: RegEx can get quite complex, if you're into learning about them, good resources http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So in theory, (Your|.*/'s) should in theory do match Your, or any # of characters followed by 's and put it into a wildcard?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: How do I show the tick timer?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe that looks right
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Spank, autotick
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Thanks Daak!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, except your escape slash is backwards
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: \ not /
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Wait, I have that. I thought there was a command that would actually show the mud timer, second by second.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Need a plugin for that, Spank
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ah!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah just noticed that when I put in there.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can also do .+ instead of .* if you want there to be at least _something_ in front of the 's
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: + is one or more, while * is any number (including 0)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: OOOH that works swimmingly thanks for taking the time to explain!!!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: has anyone else had issues with the 'level' tab showing in the miniwin_stats plugin? everything else works (stats quests CP's) but the screenshot shows the levels tab, and I haven't seen it work yet. And yes i've gained a number of levels with the plugin on
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: WTF??? I loaded Bast's scripts into my plugin file. Then when I tried to add the plug-in "Statmon" I get this Run-time error
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tezaal, it's customary when asking about problems to guide those who would then try to help you with important information such as "I'm using Bast's plugin package"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Spank, did you follow directions?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh, apologies.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I thought I did.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm using bast's plugins v6
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: thats what she said!!!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Spank, do you have more information about the error?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Plugin: StatMonitor (called from world: Aardwolf) Immediate execution cannot open C:\Documents and Settings\BSE\Desktop\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\luapath.lua: No such file or directory stack traceback: [C]: in function 'dofile' [string "Plugin"]:154: in main chunk [WARNING] C:\Documents and settings\BSE\Desktop\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\StatMonitor.xml
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since bast is not online, you should write a note to him
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm no expert, but I'd try putting the 'luapath.lua' file into that directory.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: that works for me when i get similar errors
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any way to make an entire string literal in lua? i.e. escape the entire string, rather than escaping each individual special character?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I don't know, but I just made a function that accepts a string, and returns the string with all characters excaped.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That may work
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But how does it accept a string without escaped characters?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://pastebin.com/vFCxZuVW Here is is, I only escaped a few characters, and for some reason I had to add double escapes to get it to work with addxml. Not sure why, but it works for me. The % is for gsub's escape character, wierd how it changes.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But if I do Escape_Special_Characters("abc.((("), it's going to return an error, yes?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Kind of defeats the point (at least for me) if you have to escape the characters when you're providing the string, too.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is this for mushclient or something?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods. Basically, all I'm wanting to do is check to see if a string is a substring of another string.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Seems like it should be simpler than I'm making it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Doh, I figured it out. Setting the fourth agument of string.find to true does exactly what I'm wanting to do
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can anyone explain to me why you sometimes use % to escape a special character and sometimes use /. All the while using mushclient and LUA?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: \ is for strings, % is for patterns
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: They are all string to me!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then if you're only using strings, then you'll only need \ ;)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know of any iPhone dev tools that don't require mac os?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: I got a regex in mush, '^cmd ([0-9]+) (.*)$'.... why is %2 nil, if i do 'cmd 1 foo'?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Passing the alias to a script if that matters
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: send to: script, Send: Note("%1" + "%2") => 1foo => worksforme
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Yea, for some reason %2 is nul, got me preplexed
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: if I do send to: world %2 is set just fine
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: what does the function that receives it look like?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: Just doing Notes like you did
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: chaning to: ^cmd ([0-9]+) ([a-zA-z0-9]+)$ , seems to work
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im using an iframe and im trying to pass data from my url to the iframe, using php is this possible? i have tried $_GET without it working. or would making the iframe with an echo allow me to put in the variable?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: if you want to pass data to the page in an iframe you need to add the url query parameters to the iframe's src
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i tried that and it did not work it gave a blank rather then passing it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you're probably escaping something wrong... if you put in the url in your browser it will behave the same as if its the src on an iframe
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so test in your browser till it works
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i second that
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: do i feel stupid thanks =/ forgot to echo it out
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: any way to input jap characters to the aard?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: say for desc
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furia Tech: considering there are players who still use telnet... I don't think that would lead to anything good.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no.. the text is highly filtered
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anyone know if regular, non-regex wildcards are greedy in MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: click the 'convert to regexp' button and see
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: because everything is converted to regexp anyway
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Doesn't look like they are. Thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which is what I thought, anyways, based on what I was seeing
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: does windows have a udp ping tool like linux does?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: or is that udp tracert, i think it's tcp ping and udp ping though
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 'tool'?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: yeah, some servers don't respond to one but do to the other
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think so, at least, not as standard
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: icmp traceroute packets make it to 173.192.18.138 with 1 in 3 being dropped, but ping is ignored
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i want to see what the average amount of ignored traffic is
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: no point in going beyond that server
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dunno if wireshark might help
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cain has that feature
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: among other nifty things
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: is that a toll like nmap?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cain can do tcp, udp and icmp traceroute
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: windows password recovery tool comes up
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i see, got a link?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sure. google.com
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: someone was showing me unity today, makes me wonder why you'd bother with wine
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, if your antivirus says that there's a threat, don't believe it. they don't like hack tools
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i don't use tools that don't come with source code, or in the case of windows the signature of the author who's location is known
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably wise these days
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: nothing wrong with my network connection, something wrong with the route taken to aardwolf, at the specific server -> 173.192.18.138
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: tell me what path yours takes, if you have no hangups
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I hit networklayer in new york city...2 in NYC, 1 in chicago, then 3 in dallas
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: OR 173.192.18.145 . both owned by den01.networklayer.com and dal01.networklayer.com
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when in 173.192.18, I hit 177, 132, 136, 191
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like i'm going tyhrough networklayer.com tonight
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 173.192.18.153
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i hit 140 145 138 213 and 218
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: problems happen within these
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well what can we say
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: networklayer.com are a bit on the crappy side
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your problems over time will only get worse
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i have no problem connecting to a server in russia, britain, california or arizona, even new york, but they seem to be these bugged servers that end up in florida
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i've had problems with them before
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, well, that's where aard's hosted for now
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dallas, wasn't it?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: soemtimes there is no slowdown, then some days there's barely a pulse
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the server is in dallas, softlayer is the hosting provider, networklayer is the bandwidth provider
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: used to be theplanet
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: damn softlayer
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: The Planet was a lot cooler name to drive by everyday
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know how I fix an incorrect command in the new bast spellups? The default for 'pass without trace' is issuing the wrong command, keeps triggering a belching social, 'pass', instead of doing 'trace' :)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't correct it, it automatically picks the first word
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for skills
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Oh well, I'm used to doing it manually anyway, not a problem, I'll just disable it for now, thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can always post a
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, mischan
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: is it possible with ipv4 to manually write down your own route to a location? i read something about that briefly, or is this ipv6 only?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: manually write down?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: the routing table
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: yeah with a pencil and a electric chair
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i asked my provider to reroute me
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which they duly did
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: traceroute aardmud.org > aardroute.txt
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: that's the route selected for you
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: if you did research you could find one that is 10 times faster
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i get better routing through my vps in the uk
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ssh compression seems to help, too
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: uk might be responsive, but rarely good bandwidth :-) we're all heavily constrained by a telecom network that's 60 years out of date
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mudding doesn't take much bandwidth
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fortunately not
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but as traffic shaping becomes stricter and more widespread, that could have a knock-on effect to qos
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's the only thing i use ssh proxy for, unless i'm on a dodgy network away from home
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they have lines buried that don't even operate at 1/100,000'th of their potential at peak times, that they are attempting to now stress the deliverance of more money for these hard working lines, cause too much video's they say
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: whom?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: THEY
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: dare not pass the 1/100,000'th mark of fibre optic telecommunications, better grease them for all they're worth
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we don't -have- fiber
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 90% of our broadband network is copper
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 10% aluminium?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: translation: aluminum
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 10% paper cup + string
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: aluminium
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: does anyone know how come I don't see anything when i do sendgcmp request char, for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: most likely because, by design, you're not supposed to see GMCP
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type protocols gmcp sendchar
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: how might I capture the GMCP info with an alias? I just want the state of my char
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't catch it with an alias
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ohh hmm...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You should be able to catch it with an alias, just not automatically update it or triger based on changing in states.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to actually do?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you would need to use a gmcp trigger, but I dunno how mush handles that.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can do a CallPlugin in an alias, but you can't "catch" it when it happens with an alias
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the values are always being captured live, so there's nothing to do
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: oh that's fine, I just want the alias to check if I'm fighting at that point, then if I am, do nothing
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things like bast's spellup plugin already do that...do nothing when fighting, cast spells when standing with mana
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm yea, but thats a plugin as mentioned, so I was just wondering if I could do the same with an alias alone.. trying to do something really simple so hopefully I won't need to write a scrpt
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do something like thistech do this: http://pastebin.com/K6wL8mbb make sure you set the alias to sendto:script
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have no idea if that will work, but you can try it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a script is any conceptual effort that results in executable code. A trigger is a script. An alias is a script. A plugin, which is a collection of aliases, triggers, and so forth, is a script.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it works fine, I just tested it, so use that as your template
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we use the term mostly to refer to that conceptual effort, as a convenient shorthand.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm thanks a lot guys :) i'm trying to pick up this lua thingy
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: 0h 20
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: I'm am tring to install the new Aardwolf Mud CLient. The Aardwolf page says to get MushClient 4.7.2. When I go to download it Gammon only seems to have 4.61. What am I missing?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Go to here http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm and click Download Aard client. You don't want to download direct from Gammon's page.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Thank you
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: is it possible to store an array in a permanent variable in mush, so i can keep referencing it?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How permanent?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: just for this session, I want to maintain a list of things that I will pop when I don't need them anymore
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: (using v6 plugins) bast, the "levels" tab is not showing in the miniwin_stats plugin for me. I have statdb installed and I have gotten quite a few levels. Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: can MuchClient do multi line triggers or States like CMUD?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, but it's a bit tricky
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Can you point me in the right direction or to an excample?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: example
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: states in cmud are the different pieces (#CONDITIONs) of multiline triggers.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the map capture window, I guess
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in mushclient you kind of fake it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you looking to do? there are lots of plugins that deal with multi-line stuff
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I never thought the zmud/cmud state mechanism was a very good idea
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: states can be emulated in all clients using variables easily enough
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why? It guarantees the order in which triggers fire.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's too easy to get states wrong, and no it really doesn't guarantee anything
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can do that with sequences in Mushclient can't you?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient has priority numbers for all triggers
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and aliases
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Did not mean to start a fude.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a what?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no feud
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, it does. Just because you use the #STATE command wrong doesn't mean multistate triggers aren't better than multiple single-state triggers.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe I did it wrong. though I do have a lot of experience writing zmud scripts
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: without the #STATE command (and therefore the manual state), all multistate triggers fire in the order you create them. State 0 will ALWAYS fire first, then state 1, then state 2, etc
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that sounds like a design flaw
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: barring the manual type, all trigger types automatically disable and advance to the next state, so it does guarantee the order of the triggers firing.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: except that I experienced states getting skipped
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or not advancing
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: speaking of triggers, is there a way to trigger on gmcp updates from the mud? like on state changes
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: on mush
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes zorine
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zorine, yes
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see every plugin that uses gmcp ever
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: almost all current plugins do just that
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: when they don't advance it's because they don't match the line you expected them to match.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: specifically look at the onpluginbroadcast section of any of the current gmcp plugins
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: BTW Fiendish, thanks for the work on the client.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: oh thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat Dokkar on his head.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'd like to think that, dokkar
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nope, I know it for absolute truth.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sure sure
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look, I'm not a novice script writer
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, there are no bugs in zmud
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I smell a "but you seem to be" in that statement...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I was making advanced zmud scripts that could do things nobody else thought was possible yet. I know the difference between a client bug and a script bug.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I found quite a number of zmud bugs that, of course, never got fixed
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: I use to work for the man who is zugg... I love him but CMUD is so buggy I'm moving to MushClient.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you should upgrade. 2.37 is, to put it plainly, unusable crap.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how do you know what version daruma used?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: I'm closing the blinds in my house now.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't, but most users who complain about buggy CMud use 2.37. Just like how most people who point to Zmud as an example of Zuggsoft crappiness haven't touched CMud (or did so in the 1.x days).
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use mushclient now for a whole bunch of reasons. one of the major ones though is that Nick Gammon actually fixes client bugs when they get reported, even though he doesn't have to.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's kind of a running joke and ongoing lament on the zuggsoft.com forums, and has been since ancient zmud days.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i my self have had more problems with mush then cmud but the scripting work done for mush is awesome
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, when the first example of not-crap product for cmud that you mention is version 3, that's quite enough of a display of his coding style/abilities ;-)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: about like how we complain about mxit users here.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: raistlin, IME problems that users have with mushclient tend to have to do with trying to use scripts written by other people with slightly different setups. which is why we as developers rely on problem reports
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: writing zscript is like writing html for ie6 :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: actually its been more along the lines of getting every thing set up memory usage(probally my shitty laptop) and crashing problems
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I am aware of a memory usage concern that some have with the gmcp mapper on very limited hardware
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: but i wont give that mapper up now hehe
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm still looking into an appropriate way of dealing with the idea of not storing as much information in memory as possible
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so what's the highest mush has consumed for the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: about 130MB for the mapper I believe
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, that's peanuts
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: databases, the old sequential/random file stuff, and defrag.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's significantly less than what Firefox uses, but not every laptop has 4GB of ram in it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: an useable one should have at least a gig nowdays
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Dokkar: forcing players to defragment their rotating media is not a good development model
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: continuous writing to the disk is going to trash your drive really fast, the same as if you had too much stuff in memory (ie, forcing your computer to virtual memory)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have virtual memory disabled
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I personally don't have problems with disk IO rates because I use a very fast SSD, but not everyone has that luxury.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: did u get the i love my ssd sticker also
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I know, but until this new memory chip technology becomes commonplace (imagine your hard drive doubling as RAM memory) that's his alternative unless he just doesn't want the info at all.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it did come with a sticker. I forget what it said
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, loving my i7 with 8GB RAM...have it running an old l0phtcrack on the domain accounts :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm going to slam a 64 gig ssd into my laptop as soon as i get my fileserver/seedbox running
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: right now i use laptop hdd for storage, too. that sucks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have a 120GB vertex2
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and have an 8GB SD card for that flash cache thing with w7
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll admit that I only got it because I wanted to cut my boot times down to under 10 seconds :D
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: boot? i never turn off my computers :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: shutting down and starting back up is significantly faster than hibernating my laptop now, almost as fast as sleeping and waking, and fits perfectly into my use model
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and it saves battery better than sleeping
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, hibernating always seemed to take forever for me
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hibernating several gigs of ram sucks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: w
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: when I tried it, Windows always seemed to come back with something missing
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy way to view gmcp data in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Make a plugin that gets it's data from the GMCP handler, what data are you trying to view?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akuri, it's put into a table which plugins can easily access
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh i was just wondering if you could see the raw data was wanting to watch it stream
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can turn on gmcpdebug
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: gmcpdebug 1
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's very spammy :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: bast did you get my message earlier?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want more detail, then gmcpdebug 2 ;-)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Is there a place to find more info on the new Mapper in MushClient. I'm tring to figure out the portals. mainly if they are used in the speedwalking.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i found that if i include stuff like the aard amulet in custom exits from recall, it gets used in the runs
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: So it only works from one room?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i'm not sure... but seeing that recall works from anyway, it should be programmable?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: portals work from anywhere. custom exits work from the rooms where they get defined.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to set a portal you go to the destination first
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what about prison rooms?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: After some consideration of the matter, I will not be adding the understanding of norecall/noportal to the mapper. You may feel free to make your own personal modifications.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul nods.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mine already does that :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just don't fall into botting :p
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: So I if I go to a room and Mapper Portal AardAmulet It should use the Alias AardAmulet to get to that room from anywhere?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: how might one account for noportal rooms, is there a way to use gmcp to check?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: manually. and you'd have to modify the database.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's not exposed by GMCP, need Recon.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ah i see
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Is everyone having success with the portals? I seem to be doing something wrong.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they work fine for me
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: obv.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: of course they do
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: if the garbaeg can counts as a portal it works fine for me :)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: garbage, even*
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you doing?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: while we on the subject of portals, if you have a portal equipped and the destination is in mapper so say recall. would it use the portal if possible?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it uses the shortest path it finds
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Mapper Portal aap which is my alias for my graduation portal from that room.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: ahh legend. thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: I then move 6 rooms away and click on that room.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: it then runs me to that room
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: doh
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type "mapper portals" what do you see?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you could go to the effort of trying it out manually, but to get an accurate accounting of what the flags truly are you'd have to attempt several things with each room. From a can't-see-them standpoint, there's no single-action difference between the prison flag and the noportal flag
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: | 1 | academy | Outside the Aylorian | 35200 | aap | 0
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: " 1 academy | Outside the Aylorian | 35200 aap 0"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: mine works fine. the mapper just wont equip a portal, run sto wherever portal goes and then dual my offhand again
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it will if you make an alias that does that, ozu
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: "| 1 | academy | Outside the Aylorian | 35200 | aap | 0"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: sorry for the spam
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: true. but i have like 3 portals total and they to areas that are almost in aylor so no real point for me
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah, right, it seems that clicking on rooms will not use portals. only things like mapper goto will
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably fixable. hold on while I investigate.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats odd i wouldve figured clicking on the rooms executes mapper goto
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though it may be better this way
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one second
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Typing mapper goto 35200 uses the portal but clicking on a room does not.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: well it does on occation.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: really?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: occasion
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: really!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nuts to that
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: havent read this code yet lol
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't ever
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there should be no "on occasion" when clicking
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: it did once for me
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: ok my portal doesnt work due to me being an idiot
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Okay well at least I know how to use now.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm skeptical, but in any case, clicking does not use the advanced findpath method that I wrote
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Any reason in particular it does not?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: technical reasons only
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: is there a plugin to enable logging on connect?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: logging of what? everything?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: logging is built in to mush
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient has built in logging. so does the channel capture plugin.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: when setting the detination for the portal you need to type the full string to enter the portal. i set my one as just the name of the portal.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: metria, for one thing I didn't realize until just now that clicking doesn't use goto :). Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since goto exists in a plugin that only feeds information to the mapper module. and clicking happens in the mapper module itself.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so create a "delegation" alias to call goto from the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: (apologies if retarded i havent yet read all the code)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can do it a dozen different ways
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lag.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i would expect so, but you mentioned "technical reasons" lol
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Me too! But enough about that, let's get back to discussing the mapper.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: i like the mapper haha, much slicker than anything i've ever done in cmud, props to the coders
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Three cheers on the mapper btw.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: are there guidelines whether spoken/written or non that specify what sort of plugins might not be suitable for public sharing?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you mean in general, or do you mean in the official client?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: any plugin can be happily shared that doesn't involve giving away secrets or violating policy
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just don't distribute bots
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: beyond that, it's purely a player preference dependant on which subcommunities they'd like to remain a part of.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: im not talking about distributing bots, but what dokkar said is what im asking about more, what is considered "secret"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Is there a way to add a mapper commond to an alias rtq = mapper goto 32458 ?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: If you're thinking of making a plugin that solves area goals and then distributing that to your clan, think very carefully. Wouldn't be hard to construe that as botting.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as the maintainer of the official client, my primary reason for not adding in things like noportal/norecall is that I don't want to encourage people to blur the botting line.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yes Daruma just send alias to execute instead of world
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats not at all what i had in mind
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: thx Herodotus
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daruma: sure, but be careful about infinite loops.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daruma: I'm sorry, I misunderstood your question. The answer is yes.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: how about, for example, checking whether you have seen a mob in a given room or area and extending the GQ list plugin so that the mob name becomes a link if so
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: interesting to see if alot more player get nuked for botting since the ez of it with the new gmcp and mapper etc..
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daruma shows his approval by clapping his hands together.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: worked great
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: going to save me so much time
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: not that I'm going anywhere.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mobs move around, herodotus
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: feeling envious, Sheni?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and i can weight their
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Sheni: honestly, I hope they do
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: sorry, i can weight their "seen" locations
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ya lol, I need to get with the new times already... to lazy though
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i mean more about whether such a function crosses the line
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: for public release
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i know its not botting
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: because there are currently three advanced mappers out on the market (at least) and they can all do exactly the same things. Well, maybe not Mush's yet since Fiendish is still working on that, but still...we all know where he's going to end up.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm a little bit disgusted by the idea that something isn't botting just because a player clicks on a link, honestly
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: versus typing out one command to do many? Or just pressing a couple keys?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's kind of a slippery slope, really
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: meh, i remember 15 years ago when i didnt use or want to use aliases, let alone scripts or an ascii map or now a graphical hyperlinked map....
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a rule that says that something isn't botting just because a player manually initiated a sequence is naive. which is why we have the flexibility of "the spirit of the rules".
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and the question is just hypothetical, not something im working on, something i thought of as an example with respect to my original question
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm just not convinced that anyone gets nuked for violating the spirit of the rules. If they did, far more people would be nuked.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: to how does Yowza do it if he is not botting?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: to = so
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yea im pretty amazed how people can do gq's in < 5 minutes
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: playing way longer than anyone else in the game, experience, knowing the areas, knowing the mobs, pwning j00
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: thats easily done with knowing the areas and the mobs
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: especially the last one.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's never about just violation. There's attitude, history, and impact on the game (disruption, exploitation of a bug or unhandled bit of something-or-other, etc)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i have actually seen how fast some people are. they have their clients set up so well that they basically can door/gate/etc to the room next to the gq mob.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Think Yowza is just a hardcore player tbh, prolly has some nice scripts to help, but anytime ive bumped into him in an area, ended up chatting a bit, bots dont chat much ^^
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a ridiculous idea, sheni
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the notion that a player must be afk in order to bot is naive
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: to me botting isnt quite as bad as multiplaying though. thats my biggest issue. i started with nothing and just because you have another char with billions in the bank does not give you the right to start a new guy with everything
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: both are illegal here
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: that would be illegal.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no interaction between alts. period.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i know. but it does seem multiplaying, while illegal, isnt enforced as much as botting is
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: oh yes it is
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: used to have a roomate who played
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: examples?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Just because you haven't had an mplay test yet..
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: we got accused of multiplaying all the time
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: how so? seems to me like it is, someone just was asking for an imm because "their brother wanted to play"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: cause we had the same ip
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's much more a shame that people don't let the imms know more often because snitching isn't the right thing to do. If you're going to complain, don't pass up opportunities just so you can complain some more.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: If I didn't have the help of a bot, I'd never managed to get as much AFK'ing in. It's just too time-consuming doing it all manually.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: happened to me on muds back when i lived with my parents/sibling because my sister played
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nod, been debating getting a new PC, so my GF can play next to me... bit scared to get accused though.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lmao
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There are multiplaying tests
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sheni, go for it. You'll get an mplayer test, no big deal.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i can point to a specific character. lvl 11 with 5 hours old. who dropped 28 million gold in a single day on spellups etc. no flippen way did he earn that
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: they test and you tell them about it before you start
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Celesta and I are on the same IP, she's sitting in the chair next to me. It's not a big deal, really.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: celesta is very nice <3
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the test just involves them asking 50 questions drawn from Mesa, and you just have to score 90% of them
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: o.O
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: they just had us name as many colors as we could both at the same time
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you've heard of clans and flist, right? It's just sick how helpful some people are when they have preconceived notions of who you are either as that specific character or as the player behind it.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: The hardest part was the calculus..
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol, well she never took calc, only stats
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: mp tests vary widely but usually aren't that difficult if you're a real player
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: there's no calc on it, he's being silly :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The calc is pretty easy. I always get tripped up by the Famous Freckled People.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I cant remember anything from calc class anyways :p
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: prince harry!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the funniest part is that lots of such players then bitch because they're not paying/paid fair market value for stuff.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the hardest part on the mp test for me was typing with one hand
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: enough calculus talk, i dont have class tll tomorrow lol
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: you have a lot of practice with that anyawy, fiendy
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: calculus is easy peasy, bah
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: lol Fiendish XD
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually...let me think...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: anyway, i've been playing from a house with both my brothers and my boyfriend all on at the same time, no issues :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: fiendish never types with just one hand. He types with both, one on each keyboard.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Majic can do calculus, but can't cook rice.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so a hypotenuse and my sister walk into a bar...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think the last imm to question me about possibly breaking a rule was Belmont
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: how often do you have to get mp tested ?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sheni, I'm at one test so far.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: im sure its random, but an apx guess
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: it's pretty random. i haven't been tested in a while.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and afterward he let me hang out in his immhome for a few days
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Hard part... talking my GF into playing a text based MuD !
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's when I saw Joker try to request a restring of his aardbag to "your ass"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: This reminds me i do need to drop a note about me and my husband playing. XD Since after a week we really love this place. Is there a specific Imm i should note by chance?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's nothing automated. Imms/Lasher can't bot for beans compared to the players they catch.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Send it to "imm"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: sheni, introduce her to a few of your friends
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: if they have any interests in common with her, so much the better
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I think she would get into it, she gets mad when I laugh at the game and she is bored already ^^
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "Oh, you have a vagina? I am very interested in vaginas!"
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: surely that will entice her
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's a 66% chance it will, at least.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Is there a Mapper command to list the current room number?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can mouse over the room on the map
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: use mapper area and then it'll list the numbers
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: 'mapper area ' And then look for the one that is 0 rooms away
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: then mapper goto
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: <3 this mapper, idk who to grovel to
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu points excitedly at Ol' Dirty Fiendish!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the original mapper module was written by Nick Gammon, the creator of MUSHclient. Lasher added GMCP additions for Aardwolf. I've fixed a bunch of bugs and added new features with Spartacus's help.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Don't forget about what I did!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I can only grovel one at a time, my knees are sore! (thats what she said)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I didn't do SQUAT.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mush for aard is elite x 1000000
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Metria found some problems that I was then able to fix
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: derp
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Dice) Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus rolls 15 dice with 62 sides each - total dice roll is 381.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: everyone who contributed is a stone cold pimp
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually, all of this is mentioned at the top of mapper help
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: that is a horrible roll
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Got a simple pc newbie question.. sry in advance. If I wanted to download the new client, without upsetting my working client, should I just change the name of my MUSHclient folder on my desktop ?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: just put the new client in a different folder
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: make a new folder, and download straigh to it ?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: you download it as a zip, just extract it into a new folder
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: gotcha, tks.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: speaking of downloadin the client. I released a new development snapshot yesterday and it still has 0 downloads. I think this is the longest a snapshot has gone without being downloaded by anyone
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Then copy your databases over. (Make sure MUSHclient isn't running when you do that!)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Sorry Fiendish, the last stable release was pretty rox0r.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Maybe you could entice us with something that's in the snapshot..?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's ok for mush, but you have to be careful about such things. Sometimes different versions of the same app will use key datapoints to keep track of stuff that might cause interference between versions.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the last official release actually had a few bugs in it (sorry)
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though nothing huge
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a few pretty obscure things that clearly nobody has noticed
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though the development version does have a function for backing up your database
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which I find really handy
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: there is one where if you select the communications log the chats that appear in the main window have all their colour codes =S
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: kuro: what?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: sorry for the noob question, what command could I use to disable a plugin using an alias?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: fiendish, when you click on the communication log, the chats echoed in the main window have Copied @GTech@w: and so on...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That's not as simple. You'd need to know the plugin's ID, I think
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tezaal: do you mean something like this? http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=EnablePlugin
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Kurojiryuu: that's because clicking on lines in the chat log actually copy those lines into your clipboard so you can paste and edit them
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the yellow echo is just something telling you what line got copied
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: oh...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: Can you give a portal a Cost?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu blushes.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you click and hold down, you'll notice that the chat you click on gets highlighted
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, now I notice =P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: dear fiendish, i'm going to steal your brain when you're sleeping.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daruma you can give it a minimum level
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: advanced warning, be prepared
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you mean by cost
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: link cost?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and why do you want to assign a cost?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: level meaning my Charaters Level?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i'm still hoping that we'd be able to select only a portion of text from the log
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: thx
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you may not be able to wear a high level portal, for example, so you can specify the portal's level
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, portals do take longer to enter than walking a step
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: myrkul not enough that I'm going to worry about it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: for example, if you're at the aard hotel, you would want to walk down, not get your garbage can from your portal bag, remove your dual weapon, wear the portal, enter, rewear your weapon, and put the portal in the bag...
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the mapper will take into account your tiers when deciding whether or not it can use the portal
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daruma Tech: the Tiers thing is very cool
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: myrkul, again the time difference is not one I'm going to lose sleep over, but it's a reasonable enhancement request if you care to file it on the development website
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then I'll just make it not use a portal if you're only one room away
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shrug, i don't use mush, i don't really care what you do with it :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just throwing things out there
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my goal with the client is actually not to provide the most complete mapper solution I can.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because that would involve enabling too much automation
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: just do it like zmud/cmud, build the mapper as simply as possible and expose pretty much everything so that scripts can do whatever users can dream up.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'll get teh tar, someone else get the feathers for this blasphemer :P
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I... I have no feathers. Whoever told you that was lying.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: players can already do anything they want with their own client installations, but some new features require actually modifying the structure of the database
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then of course any changes you make, you'll have to merge in to whatever next version you download when I fix bugs and add features
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but that's not my problem
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: since everyone is in a helping mood, I'm using v6 of basts' plugins, and the 'level' tab doesn't show on my miniwin_stats. I have statdb enabled, running, adn working perfectly, and the stats/quests/cp's shows in that re good man
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: that window, althoguh everyime i load mush it gives me a runtime error
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: tezaal ih ave the same problem
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: - re good man*
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i wish i could use alt+q as a macro
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: i can pastebin the error in case anyone can help me debug
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can use anything as a macro by defining it as an accelerator
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Let's see it
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: k sec
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: thanks.. *goes to read*
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: like old faithful, same error everytime.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: http://pastebin.com/asddCtwv
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: It's fuxxored.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: going along with that error, it seems to not update my statwin unless i close/re-open the client.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: what is the word oh-wise-sages of the MUSH?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bird's the word!
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: dokkar = win
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Birdbrain Metria perks up, something must have grabbed her attention.
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Tezaal, you should probably post that error log to Bast, let him take a look
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod, ty
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: makkar are u still there?
T3/r3/2011-02-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: err I meant metria, damn M names lol
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: so whats the deal with triggers in mush im tryin to make a afk one for when people try to send me tells when im idle and i cant get any tells to trigger i know theres one out there but i wanna try to make one on my own any hints
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is the pattern you're trying to match?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ^(.*?) tells you
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so you're trying to use regex. do you have the regex checkbox checked?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ya
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and why are you using the pattern .*? ?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: instead of .+?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: cause its the only one i knew
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: what does the + represent
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 1 or more
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: * is 0 or more
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: setting a pattern of "^(.+) tells you" and then checking the regex box works for me
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though it's a really bad thing to do, honestly
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: catchtell doesn't work for you because...?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: becaues it will catch on any line that contains "tells you"
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you should be using tags tells, really
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: kool ill look into em
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: need some computer help..! :P
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: so my desktop is acting up... I push the power button and it turns on, but nothing comes up on the monitor... and holding the power button won't shut it down.. only way to turn off my computer is to unplug, or hit the power switch..
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: is the computer beeping?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: no beep
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: is the intent to turn it off or turn it on, somewhat confusing..
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: I also left the computer unplugged for around 1 month
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: if it isn't, the BIOS thinks its posted, and you either have a bad video card, its not seated correctly in the slot, or your monitor has the wrong input, cable is loose, etc
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: well, the intent is to turn it on, properly, when I turn it on, nothing comes up on the monitor
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: yes you're probably got the monitor on the wrong input, can you bring up the monitors menu?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: could even be a bad motherboard..
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: if it was a bad motherboard the chances it would beep because it failed to post are exceptionally high
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: hmm haven't touched the settings on the monitors at all, worked perfectly fine before I went away a month ago :P
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haruon nods.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: unless the mobo is like 10 years old :p
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: cougarboard
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: my mobo isn't that.. mature... :P
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: there are plenty of reasons the monitor settings could have reset in that time :p, monitor settings, then cable, then plugging it into the onboard video, etc. I'd try all those things first
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Nah, they asking if the monitor settings show when you hit the buttons to see if the monitor is actually working or not.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Caramel Milkshake nods at Xaxz.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Haruon nods.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: ok, the monitor buttons aren't working :P
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: tried switching the power cable too.. hmm still nothing =(
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haruon Tech: I guess it might be bad if I took out my RAM and still no beeps on my mobo :P?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: is there anyone here willing to do me a favor?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: depends
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no!
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: can you tell me if this website is available to you? http://agilewebsolutions.com/
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://agilewebsolutions.com/
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: they are the makers of 1password. i can't get to the site to confirm my liscence. thanks fiendish, I'll try that :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: hrhr
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: Ok, that site says it's just me, as I suspected. Any ideas why I can't reach the site? i
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The Chinese have hijacked the BGP again?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what's your isp?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: www.ItsJustMeHowCome.com
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: here's something really weird, another computer on the same network can get there wit no issues.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazy Shark Morinon Tech: Tried deleting cookies?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok, so it's not the isp then :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lazy Shark Morinon Tech: Also: tried a different browser?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: have tried a different borwser. first browser in safari on my mac. second browsser IE in the VM on my mac
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: a different browser too
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i can ping the server IP though... this is weird. affect firefox on the mac...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bad proxy server?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: there is an equivalent to the hosts file on windows in unix right? wonder if that might have something to do with it...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: no proxy
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: /etc/hosts
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: hostconfig?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Wait, did you ask about Windows or about Unix?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i'm asking about unix. There is a file etc/hosts. just didn't see it at first. actually, it's mac, but mac uses unix so...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: nothing untoward in the hosts file.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: this is odd. last time this happenned to me, it turned out to be my router blocking the url somehow. but that affected all computers on that network. this is proven local to this machine.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: and it doesn't matter what network this machine is on because it's happenning now at wok, and it happenned at home.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: iptables -L
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I wonder iftech command not found
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: iptables is linux only
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: I wonder if i take the VM to bridge mode out of nat if that would let the VM access it.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: brb
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oh, right, Mac
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: OK, so it's something in the mac definitely blocking the url. putting the VM into bridged mode (where it gets it;s own ip instead of Natted from the Mac) i can access the site.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: mac is essentially unix, not linux :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The distinction is hazy
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: true Cizra
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: and "Unix, not Linux" sound weird
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: especially since there is no one standard unix
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: nslookup gets me the ip addy for the site...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: whoah, for a second there i was thinking SPAM BOT!
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: it is not a cookie issue if IE can't get to it, firefox can't see it and safari can't see it. IE can see it when it's not sharing the mac's Ip address. so that means it's something to do with the mac's firewall? or something?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: found it. stupid ass peer guardian. was definitely a firewall. thanks guys for helping me out :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: yepo, that was it. the site got blacklisted by peerguardian.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but using mxit is optional...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Pohhui Tech: anyone know free prog to convert mp3 to wav?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I use Freemake Video Converter to convert EVERYTHING
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: music and video
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i use super
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUPER_(software)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Who is Pohhui Tech: ok ty
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: any tips on dragging/resizing the main output window in mush ? Scrolling in the main program window doesn't help...is there a reset / tile command?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: type, aardwolf reset
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: or try that rather
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: nope :-(
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daak Tech: might be able to close mush, and find the original state files in the original zip and copy them over, in worlds/plugins/states, not sure if that'll help or not
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using the new aard client?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Mmmmm why would my qtimer (captured) show -43m, was there any change recently done that would affect what mushclient captures (using bast scripts)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure what it uses , but were you disconnected when you got the "you're able to quest again" message?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: It was more like I just came back after lunch and it was broken
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: but its the first time the timer drops to 0 since reboot as well
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does it use gmcp? the gmcp handler was broken by a recent trivia answer
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Oh, maybe that is it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: So that's why my channel capture is down too?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just restart the gmcp handler plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: Dash broke it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the bug has already been reported
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i suspect it's server-side
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: I think that worked for channel capture
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: now my stats are gone
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: mmmm
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's normal
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just do something to update the stats
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: well, removed/re-wore everything and they didnt move
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: I will just log out/in
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: that did the charm
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: So, what was the prroblem with the answer anyway?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it ended in a dollar sign
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: so if I capture an answer that ends with a dollar sign my scripts will collapse?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: line, channel line
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: or was it a server problem?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: server problem, I believe
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 3$
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: not any channel, spouse is not affected
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that was Dash's answer. see? no problem here
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it's only on trivia, and it's only when someone else says it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: interesting
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I posted a bug note about it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: did anybody not using mushclient suffer from it?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suspect that most people not using mushclient don't have that much GMCP stuff active
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I'm sure that at least a few were affected
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though perhaps not in the same ay
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: way
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: I am not on MUSH, and I am using GMCP. none of my scripts were bothered by that (although I did see BUG!)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are two different philosophies for dealing with bugs like that. either completely ignore it and move on, in which case the bug may never get noticed and fixed, or fail and force the user to deal with the problem
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient's plugin handler tends toward the second
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as a developer I prefer it this way, though I understand that for users it can be disruptive at times
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: bast V6.... what site is that again?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: finger bast
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: generally speaking, player websites can be found by using the finger command on the player
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: grose im straight lol
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there any way to change which order windows appear in mushclient? For example, I want the events plugin window to show in front of the groups plugin window
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think, though not positive, that if they're windows from two different plugins, then the draw order is based on alphabetical order of the plugin ids.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, theoretically, I guess you could change the plugin IDs.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: draw order for miniwindows is tricky. I have thoughts on a system for manipulating them, but haven't gotten around to fleshing it out
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, I'll just live with it for now, thanks anyway
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, with the new aard client, in the main window I have timestamps on every line, how do I get rid of that?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: when i type spellup all it says This 'slist' command does not work on mxit. wtf im on my pc
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: are you tethered to your phone?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: its typing whois by itself lol
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Not the question i asked.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: one sec...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, set pagesize to 0, and it will stop
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: is that for me bast?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no, ghostsoul
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: have you seen that before bast, timestamps in main window?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for you are you talking about the communication log window or the output window?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: output
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: set pagesize to 150, since pagesize 0 may result in disconnects when 200 plus lines are received
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: why is it typing whois by inself??
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because it has to seed the stat database
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: To get info for one of the scripts, i'd presume.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: well its spamming
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: He told you the solution
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: also do nopretitle until you see "You will not longer see pretitles"
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with pagesize 0, go to forum ideas and type note list (the spam is may cause a disconnect)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, messed up script if it forces personal preferences like that.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't tell him to do that, it will disconnect him
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: done You will no longer see pretitles.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did the whois stop?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: yes...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, I have nopretitles turned off and I can't check every trigger for every config item on this mud
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Now as per your other question, are you tethered through your phone, ghost?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: that mxit thing was funny
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plus, I asuume you are using my v6 miniwin_spellup plugin? if so the command is "bsp all"
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plus, I asuume you are using my v6 miniwin_spellup plugin? if so the command is "bsp sa all"
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: @Bast: you can change the trigger that need nopre off to just grab the last word of a phrase before the trigger phrase.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez, not when the last word is your title
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: its fixed cheezburger.... im using my phone as a modem
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That would be why you can't use slist
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wouldn't
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even tethered through phone shouldn't cause that message...tethering would use the phone's IP...mxit comes from mxit's server's IP
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: sweet cant wait to try v6
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno if it caches a list of users server-side somewhere
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did someone help jek yet?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: he got it solved
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coup de Calamar Tech: He said he figured it out :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Bast, you still lurking?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: In your new spellup miniwin, what is the difference between a "client" spellup and the normal requested spellup?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: sorry, normal "mud" spellup
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: client spellup is one that is not a spellup mudside, but is toggled on the clientside to be a spellup, you can do this with stealth for instance
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: So for things like skills?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: skills or spells, but for it really to work, it needs to send a tag
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: when it is activated/removed
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, not sure I fully understand. How would I use it as opposed to just using mudside spellups?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: because you can't use stealth with the mudside spellup at all
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but you can toggle it to be a "spellup" on the clientside and then use it in the clientside spellup
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: nice... the quest info at the bottom when done...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you won't need it, just add the normal stuff
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Just had an error in mushclient from the miniwin_stats plugin, assertion failed in sqlitedb.lua function 'checkfortable' called from chardb.lua in 'open'. Any idea what's causing it? It's happened twice in 2 days, so it's not a big problem, doesn't seem to break anything.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: looks like you're missing a table
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: (to state the obvious)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is the error #?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: copy the error to pastebin.com and tell me the url
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Last line reads [string "Plugin"]:614: in function <[string "Plugin"]:597>, does that help? If not, where is the error number?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: http://pastebin.com/3Ae7qNtq
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: lytebane, type "plugins reload miniwin_stats", it said you couldn't open the database, so if you reload the plugin it should be fine
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, it reloaded fine, thanks, I'll report if I get it again. Had it once yesterday, and once today. Doesn't seem to actually cause any problems though
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: lol my stats window dissapeared or i removed it and cant find it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: whats that plugins name that gives me mt stats again?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it bet it has stats in the name
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: what would I have to do to make info, clan announcement, and auc have their own window?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: write a script
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which client?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I assume you mean miniwindow?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I have the aard mush, I assume I could copy the chat window plugin and edit it to make another window to capture that stuff?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, miniwindows aren't really windows so you'd have to handle all the drawing and stuff. If you aren't shy about lua scripting in general, you can pretty much get the idea by looking at pretty much any miniwindow plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you'd also need triggers and such to capture the proper lines
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: hmm any idea why im gettin disconnected when i tryin to view the list of notes on idea board
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredibly Flat Tech: buffer overflow. set your page size
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I'd also love it if when a mob says stuff it didn't end up in the chat window
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: its currently 34
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: what should i change it too
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: can i store an array in the variables i declare?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: in much
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes but you have to serialize them
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because data is stored as strings
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: how can I keep mob says from ending up in the chat capture window?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: how do i serialize?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: in the aard mush
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: jek: you don't
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mob says are tagged just like every other say
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: fiendish, do u mean storing an "array" like "warrior|cleric|mage"
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I was running a version of bast mush before where they didn't
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I wonder why...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you may be mistaken, jek
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if (gmcp.comm.chan.channel ~= mobsay) then
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and sayto?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: They all come across as mobsay now
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: as their 'channel'
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: One of the bugs i got fixxed
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I'm horrible with coding, would it be hard to change the chat plugin with that info?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Literally just ass that line in the trigger processing it and add 'end' at the end
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ass=add
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll add a toggle for not capturing mob speech in the next channel capture update
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that line won't work for two reasons
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one, there is no "gmcp" storage variable, and two, it would be .channel.chan not .chan.channel
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: so what would I have to add?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ahh.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also mobsay would have to be a string
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how long can you live without it, jek?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Haven't looked at your version at all, was just assuming you kept with the rest of the mud on the method of storage
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I'm going to add it to the official plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: o, if you're gonna fix it I won't bother XD
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the concept of "gmcp." as a storage variable is I believe a cmud thing
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: we use a slightly different name for mushclient
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, it originated as a cmud storage concept in %gmcp.blah.blah, and it just kinda took hold.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: personally i store mine in $GMCP[COMM][CHAT][channel]
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: s/CHAT/CHAN
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: how might i serialize an array in mush, could anyonet each me?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: for the GMCP mapper (bast plugins v6) would it be possible to add an in-line command to add notes to rooms, rather than clicking on the room? mapper notes lists current notes, maybe just mapper note would add the note to the room?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Use lua's pickle
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You'd have to write an alias inside the mapper plugin to add 'notes' as the mapper does.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the gmcp mapper is not part of bast's plugins
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: AFAIK he incorporated it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: oh, well it was suggested I mention what client/plugins i'm using if i ask for help so.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: just following protocol :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when relevant
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tezaal: add a new request at https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: k ty
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but bug reports for Bast's plugins should not go on that list. they should go to Bast. :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: but the GMCP mapper -is- on that list, right?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wait, yes
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: mkay, ty
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the gmcp mapper is part of the official client package
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast's plugins are not
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: fiendish what version is the official aardwolf client? not the r359 snapshot right?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: which r### I should say?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: r336, I believe
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it says what release you have in the changes text file
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: For those linux people out there - Does anyone know if a windows version of TestDrive exists?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is testdrive?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: it downloads the latest ubuntu ISO and configures the virtual machine
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: so you can try it out before committing to installing it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: https://launchpad.net/testdrive
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh cool. i suspect nothing like that exists for windows
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since windows isn't free
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: how do i set a world variable to a certain value in my script? I have tried SetVariable ("world.Classlist", ArrayExport ("classlist", ","))
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: boo. I was hoping to try this aardwolf client on wine since i've heard great reviews, but have had issues with MUSHclient in general in the past. Wine only seems to like one scripting language, and thats lua.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lua is the primary mushclient language anyway
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: every major released script is done in lua
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod but I mean for another mud I play, I have plugins that are in diff languages so wine freaks out.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try asking on the mushclient help forums, zorine. I'd help you out, but I'm logged in from my phone right now.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: okie thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fwiw, the aardwolf package is set up very specifically for aard anyway
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I use it entirely through wine
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'd guess wine would be ok with most stuff except vbscript, and maybe jscript
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for other muds, use a different copy of mushclient :)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod I know that, hence why I'm saying MUSHclient has given me issues in the past, and its mainly with vbscript. this client is brand new so obv i haven't tested it on ubuntu yet
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: well, not so obvious but i switched back to windows since i hardly used my ubuntu install and needed HDD space
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i use ubuntu 10.10 and wine 1.0.1 (for intel driver compatibility reasons)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm going to install ubuntu (through windows) now, and test it out
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: since all i do is MUD + browse the web, this might get me to switch!
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you use windows anyway, why not use it in windows?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I've been wanting to switch but like I said, previous issues with wine + mush prevented that.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think you can run ubuntu from the cd without installing, might be worth a try
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: Fiendish, my fonts are screwed up and the mapper seems to be drawing slowly since I upgraded to 10.10, should I downgrate wine to 1.0.1? also have intel
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's easy enough to shuffle versions with apt-get
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: never bothered to learn it, will do, thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use 1.0.1 because newer versions put black junk everywhere
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not because of performance
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's unfortunate that the intel driver team seems to suck so much
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: yeah, very unfortunate
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just do apt-get remove wine and then apt-get install wine1.0
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: might need to reboot
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: thank you, I somehow missed it
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so if i installed Ubuntu via wubi inside a windows machine/os, is it possible to remove the windows part completely without affecting the linux part?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: on the same partition?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: As far as i know
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm not sure how the 'inside windows' installer works tbh
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you should never have two oses on the same partition :P
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: cheezburger, I dont think you can do that.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Back up your home directory, blow everything away and install clean
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, metria was my 2nd choice
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: windows act as a "parent" to the wubi install, you can't delete it.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i have daily off-site backups so it's no big concern really
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Depending on how tinkery you got, you may want to back up portions of /etc/ also
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: i just did that earlier tho, aardclient runs like a charm with wine 1.0 but the font on the gmcp mapper is ugly, the lines don't line up at all.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: You need a monospace font
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Wait, the GMCP mapper??
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: aye
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: or the ascii map?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: err sorry, ascii
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: MAC address remains the same regardless of OS, right?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yeah use a monospace font
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: what would constitute a monospace font metria?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: MAC address is from the adapter firmware, but on lots of hardware can be overridden in the driver
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: I'm using Bitstream Vera Sans Mono
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well, i set up this comp as a reserved addy so that it wouldn't change local IP's randomly, didn't want to go through the trouble of doing that on a double NAT'd system again if i didn't have to.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: On Mushclient how do i keep what i type last ?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: Thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: auto-repeat command
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: also the 'keep command' tickbox
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: keep commands on prompt line
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, keep command isn't about the input line
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone ever done any windows form programming in C#?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: he asked how to keep what you typed last, that is the correct option to do so.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no it isn't...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: looking to try and set up a loop inside a form, to check things outside of the program, but in such a way it won't freeze up all other aspects of the form.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in that window, click the help button...read what it says about those 2 checkboxes...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any suggestions on that?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You might look up BackgroundWorker.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I think that addresses what you're asking for.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: anyone able to get psx emu's to work on windows 7?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I did milkshake
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: which did you use?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: in what respect?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: which emulator did you use on windows 7?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: PCSX
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: and PCSX2 for ps
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ps2*
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: its easy to install but just get have to find out which plugin works wth your hardware
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: When you num lock the num pad, and the arrow keys dont type numbers what do the buttons do? Ask because I want to set them to charge direction macros, I can toggle on and off with num lock, possible on MUSH ?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sure, in the preferences set the keys to do whatever you want.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: global preferences ?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: going on that same note, if you macro the 1 2 3 4 on teh numpad, will the ones on the keyboard have the same action?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: no, the keypad keys have a differnt opcode, so the client can tell the difference.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: excellent
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: dont think Im finding the preferences you were refering to, a bit more help possible, please ?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: sheni press alt + enter, look for keypad on the left side
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: perfect, tks alot.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: is there a way to set the num pad buttons when num lock isnt active?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: better yet, is there a way to lock Ctrl ?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: sheni, on that same keypad menu, you can press and hold ctrl to use diff functions of the keypad, no you can't lock that key.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ya very handy, almost perfect for what I want, just wish I wouldnt have to hold down control.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: guess I cant have my cake and eat it to ^^
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: indeed
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: should work well, ill be even more of a charing fool. Thanks for the help.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you might be able to remap your keys to ctrl+key...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I remember Amaru told me how he has this trick keyboard, could toggle it to 9 different settings or some crap.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I know there are plugins to do that sheni, I've used one for sailing on another mud
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, it's possible to remap keys in most oses
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeefKing Tech: question on the aardolf muschclient
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: whats up?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeefKing Tech: i can't see what i'm typing...
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: try dragging the bar at the bottom up
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shave Your Leges Tech: open eyes look fingers.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeefKing Tech: dragged it all the way i can, there's no bar where i'm typing...hence all the typos i can't see what i'm putting in here
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, try typing aardinit
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeefKing Tech: unknown command
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: damn, forgot that command to reset your aard windows.. hold on.
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeefKing Tech: that' doesn't work either
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: resetaard i think
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BeefKing Tech: anyone know how to capture tells?
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: use tell tags or gmcp
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: you need a trigger that will respond to the telltags (tags tells on)
T3/r3/2011-02-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i don't know mush so can't help specifics
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: ugh. i contacted my ISP once again in a very long quest to try to get a wonky connection behaving. a friend and I think we've narrowed the problem down to an internal server ISP. i told them about this. what do they email me back with? 'we'll be in contact with you to check your line.' MY LINE IS FINE. LOOK AT YOUR SERVERS 3 HOPS DOWN FROM ME ARGH
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: uhh, internal isp server, that is*
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: thats always what they say
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: i'm trying so hard to not be the 'problem customer' that complains and whines and doesn't know what they're doing but the lack of information the ISP is giving me makes that hard.
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: how do you open a pdb file?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you can open a .pdb file in MS Visual Studio
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: VS2010, that is
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: actually, I don't see why you just can't use Notepad++ or even just vainlla Notepad to open the file with.
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katios Tech: does anyone know how to make the chat show only in chat window? i am using the aarwolf client
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: katios, right-click the chat window
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katios Tech: the echo option?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Katios Tech: thanks:-)
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone familiar with cMUDs #COM functionality?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: trying to figure out what it means when it says "Invalid class string, ProgID... how do I figure out what the ProgID is?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: is the program that you're trying to communicate with via COM object running?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: hmm have you tried resetting the variable that holds the comcreate data?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: or does it even exit?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: you mean like, setting it as an empty string and then using the comcreate?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: exist*
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: something to the likes of #var dict %comcreate( "Scripting.Dictionary")
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nod I have, #VAR TP
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nod I have, #VAR TP %comcreate( "C:\Users\Mars\Desktop\AardPower\AardPower\bin\Release\AardPower.exe" )
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: though I think it has something to do with my app not being registered...
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: has that worked for you aver?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I don't see it in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\ =
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ever*
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: no... if it worked I ever, I'd probably know why it wasn't now because I'd have had to change something *snicker*
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: well the comcreate variable is not supposed to hold the path to the file
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I didn't think so, I tried it with just aardpower.exe that didn't work either
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: so I'm really thinking it has something to do with the app not being registered correctly
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: its supposed to hold something else... the com-thingy
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it's all new to me... and havne't found any useful tutorials yet... so trying to stumble through it
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: right click and register application?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: lemme see if i can find what goes in the comcreate thingy. i'm positive its not the path to the file
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: its like a com object path thing
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: method for a COM object goes there.. whatever that is
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: im lagging badly on zmud bnut not at all on telnet
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: any particular reason?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: does anyone know how a plugin in mush can change world variables? setvariable doesnt seem to work
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you cannot change world variables from a plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ohh ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is there a new version of aard mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i remember i heard something like that
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Altere Tech: on the aard site
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a way to script a trigger in Mushclient that will actually terminate Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: How do i update MushClient
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lift it up, insert some bricks, put down
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I use a jack instead of bricks
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: just like any other app. Download it and look for a crack.
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: How do you automatically edit things from the Mushclient screen so that you don't see somethign? For example, anything matching *[Helpdesk]*?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Anyone?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've not done it.. but it's to do with gag
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I can't seem to acces the helpfile that camew with it. Windows Vista sucks :)
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Vista and Win7 use a new help system, and do not install the old one anymore by default. If you want to view such files, just go to Windows Update and download it (or use your install disk if you have one).
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any good MUSH plugin out there which already parses partial area names / keywords / etc?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faustiano Tech: Does anyone know how to "have a good time" for the 1st Carnival Goal?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: wrong channel, Faustino :)
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faustiano Tech: sorry :)
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sighvdude Tech: can someone remind me of what to type to make tinyfugue compile with mccp enabled?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Just download Abelinc's package
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: i think it's like --with-mccp and you have to have zlib on your box
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sighvdude Tech: so ./ make --with-mccp ?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it defaults to compiling with it enabled
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: well, configure
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp only comes standard in tf5...tf4 needed patches for it
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you might want to use the sources from my site, though, for gmcp
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Toki Tech: just do ./configure --help for all available options
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sighvdude Tech: maybe i will just get the version 5 then yeah
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monquipupu Tech: colored bars keep popping up across my screen, blocking my view of the text from time to time. is there any way i can change my preferences to resolve the problem? thank you very much! :)
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do those colored bars look like?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (other than colored bars...are there labels, do they change length, etc)
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: probally a plugin error
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monquipupu Tech: abelinc they are blue and fit the width of the screen, ccovering about two lines of text at a time. they appear at random :(
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: sounds like an AOL popup..
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: You've Got Mail!
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monquipupu Tech: im using MUSH client - Aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it's new, is this a second character? Do they happen under both characters if so?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Monquipupu Tech: oh good question -- yes, its a new character my bf created for me, but his character/screen is fine.
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try re-downloading it to another folder...might have something funky from first download
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey is there any real difference between lynx, elinks, and links2 if one wants a console-available browser?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: haven't checked if lynx has changed much, but it would run scripts and some other things
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: wouldn't
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: lynx is great for scripts
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but not java-scripts, of course....
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: that's what I meant...they are used so frequently
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I always liked Lynx better. But, that is probably because I started with it.
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Just check out the features of each...google home their home sites.
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: circular logic...
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol, you get what you get
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a strange alias I cannot remove, is there any way to flush all aliases?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: clientside or mudside?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mudside
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: alias
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: can't just use unalias?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the alias is {||gmcp_prompt_statm, and I get the error 'No such alias' when I try to unalias
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: something probably went wrong when I added gmcp to my client
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: no idea, i don't know much about gmcp...
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: That's client side. What client?
T3/r3/2011-02-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but the alias is mudside, so the client doesn't matter
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: what are you typing?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: unalias {||gmcp_prompt_statm
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and there is such an alias in the list
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but I cannot remove it
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: no spaces, or anything after it?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: unalias {||gmcp_prompt_statmon}
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: i'm guessing it's actually longer than {||gmcp_prompt_statm, but you can't see the rest of it.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: yeah, like that.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: doesn't work?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeptech now it worked
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: heh, well done :) was just gonna suggest it was statmon :)
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the alias was cut off by the mud
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: seems you can make a longer alias than what can be displayed
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Yeah, buggy that. You wanna post the bug note, or shall I ?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: be my guest
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: i.e. go ahead and post the bug
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I post bugs for a living, so I try to avoid it for fun
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Heh, sure :P
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i apparently have maxxed out my memory, anyone know a quick snippet of txt to turne a touched file into a swapfile?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swapon -a
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you don't want just a touched file, as that's 0 for size...
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you need to create a file with a size
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to use dd to create a file of the size you want
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=1024
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or bs=1024k
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that make a 1G file
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and then mkswap ./swapfile
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and then swapon ./swapfile
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: would anyone happen to know how to supress the echo of triggers only in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: i want echo on, but not of trigger outputs
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shortbus Stutz Tech: i all of a sudden not seeing battle messages from my group mate...anyone know why?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: help spamreduce
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: groupspam
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shortbus Stutz Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: e-voting is awesome. http://valimised.ee/internet_eng.html
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if i recently installed linux, accidentally fried my mbr, and need to enable higher memory options, is that the kernel config tab right?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Best way to fix it is inserting a windows7 dvd
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i've got 2 gigs but linux only sees... 1 gig... and its not reserved by the video card
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: That doesn't make sense.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you need to enable high memory in... general options?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mushambo, that makes sense... fighting one virus with another, like in the movie ninja scroll.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: there are no linux viruses :O
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I mean if you are compiling your kernel. If not, you must find precompiled kernel that has it enabled.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: What distro are you trying to use?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tezaal ubuntu is real
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I know? You said fighting one virus with another, maybe I read it wrong but I thought you were refering to linux as a virus heh
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: mosch how long doe sit take -normal- people to hero? by normal I mean not yowza
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: If you have a 2 dimensional array, of 10w, by 8 high, and you want to take and make each slot contain a number 1-80... what is the formula you'd use to come up with the result.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: They are. They like to act like idiots.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: err, mischan
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: currently i have (y + 1) * (x + 1), where y = 0-9, and x = 0-7
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've given plenty of opportunities to linux distros , and frankly, they all seem to suck to me,
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: nothing works flat out :-( *angry tells will be filtered*
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grizzler im using gentoo, because i enjoy waiting 30 minutes between activities, like questing, but i've got the vanilla linux kernel from kernel.org
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: ok, not general setup, it's "Processor type and features"->"High memory support", select something other than off
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i prefer compiling the kernel, as it gives me something to do between quests, but i basically am trying to figure the right option to make linux see all two gigs of ram and not just 1 gig.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its gotta be in here ...
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it works, for 1-10, and 10-20-30-40-50-60-70-80, but the odd numbers in are off for some reason.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: You must be using a crappy machine.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mushambo yes maybe so, but windows has annoying export controls
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I wont ever bash *nix based OS'es, since they are the basis for most of the internet backbone, as well as mac OSX is *nix based.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: export controls? I dont travel to commielands
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: vampiredude, i've used a few diff distros on a comp with 4gb of ram adn linux detects it fine (ubuntu and fedora), maybe try another distro see if its the same issue?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: vampiredude> just told you where to look
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tezaal the gentoo livecd, and the knoppix livecd, and the slitaz live usb all see it fine
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its specific to my kernel config im sure of it
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but all these memory options im finding thus far look like they're for virtual memory
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan feels ignored.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I actually have 2 issues atm with my ubuntu install: 1) when i install my video driver (ATI restricted) I can't use my dual monitor setup correctly (more specificialy the driver incorrectly detects my laptop screen resolution and makes the image distorted) and 2) my sound is playing out of both my speakers and my headphone slot when headphones are pluggedi n
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I bet you $3M that isn't an issue with windows
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude types who ignore, and feels less ignored than Huan.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: compaq machine?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mushambo windows has annoying export controls
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: you're absolutely right, mushambo, but windows forces computer companies into submission by locking in their product, so the companies have no CHOICE but to make drivers. ubuntu offers freedom so the drivers are community developed. and myopic, it is an hp pavillion dv7-3060US laptop.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tezaal ubuntu is too frustrating for me use.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: linux has some fun games though , so i'm trying to get it to run for when i'm not in a better os
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: vampire: you seem to be much more linux-proficient than myself, since you can compile kernels and whatnot. I view ubuntu as a good foot-in-door entry into linux
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Free Software just may not be for you guy.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: as far as I know there is no cure for the headphone/ speaker hp did someting hardwired.. if you find out different let me know
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I know I've fixed it before just gotta find the notepad file somewhere....its odd that the live cd seems to work better than whan it is installed at times :(
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: your mistake was buying HP. ewww!
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: heh, hey its a -fantastic- computer and its an absolute powerhouse.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I also cannot upgrade the pulseaudio driver, it breaks
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: completely stock, I can play Unreal tournament 2004 and the WoW people are like 'zOMG HOW ARE UR GRAPHIX SO GUD I WANTS"
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: at highest settings*
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Yep but I don't have it here, it's the kids so Im not sure of the model
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tezaal can it support fly mode or otherwise pair graphics cards?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's older
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: don't know vampire, I dont game too much (obv, since i'm playing a MUD lol) but its a laptop...it won't have all that intricate hardware as a desktop. it uses shared video memory from my 4gb of ram so it performs well.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah i found it
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: apparently i already had memory enabled for the proper sum
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude notes that undocumented user errors are much hardre to find than documented ones
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I just don't feel well enough to go, I feel like I might puke at any moment.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tezaal i know that feeling!
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm thinking alcohol might help.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: gah, mischan again!
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I blame the alcohol from last night, but thats a discussion for a different channel lol
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: one of my first drinks was a 4 horseman, i get credit for that
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: shrug, that 's lame
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn, traktor makes beat mixing so easy
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: anyone thats messed with basts new spellup plugin, can you change the order of spells with it?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: how is that done?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: one moment
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: right click on the spell,add in position.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: from what window?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: spells tab in spellup window
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: spell must not be on your list yet
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: are you sure you're talking about bast v6?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: when I right click on a spell I don't get that option
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: is the spell allready on your spellup list?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: remove it then right click on it
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: thanks, I'm about to switch back to the old one, this one is way less intuitive
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: I like it,has some minor 'faults' but overall.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: there needs to be a simpler way to change spell order though
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: How would you want it then?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: drag and drop?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: on the old one you just typed spellup + spell:#
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: if I'm not mistaken you can do that too.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: how?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: you're right, must've typed something wrong at first
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: hmm I guess I was wrong
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: is anybody familiar with bast's plugins?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just ask your question
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: ok, when i enable the broadcast_skillspells plugin, a lot of errors pop up that say "Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: do you have all of the files in the zip extracted to the plugins directory?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try loading the plugin you want first, not the helper files, iirc, those will be loaded automatically
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i loaded bast_spellup and miniwin_spellup
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: broadcast_skillspells came with
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: and i started getting those errors
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: so i turned them off one by one and when i turned off the broadcast one it stopped
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hmm, must be a newer version, I don't have that one loaded and I have the miniwin spellup plugin loaded
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yeah, it was new as of last week sometime i think
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: If I want to enable a folder with a trigger, and it is nested in another folder, what is the syntax for enabling that folder?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: zMud
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #T+ {folder1|folder2|folder3}
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Thank you much
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: how do i stop the "line # popup when scrolling over screen in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armes Tech: how do i get this to go away? only tags i have on are map tags but this appears to be prompt information "{stats}223/145,87/65,87/65,270/165,109/95,112/80,82,100,98,187,280,You are Standing.,9999,3427/4146,2899/2899,3669/3724,1136266,1506,0,-2494,209,137,5"
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: statmon
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armes Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know how I use the bast spellup plugin to cast on others? It's probably something simple but I've tried all the combinations of commands I can think of
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: spellup other name
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: did you try that?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Tried that, nothing happens, I don't even see an error message
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: got me then
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Worked it out, you need to do 'bsp other fast' or add all the spells separately with 'oadd'
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: thanks whomever helped me yesterday, getting newer tf gives me mccp
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Trigger function "process_prompt" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: how can i remove that, it pops up after every command i enter
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: disable the plugin, something is trying to capture your prompt
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: is it correct for the gmcp.char.status.pos to not match gmcp.cahr.status.state one on one?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: how so?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: when I go to state 4, pos still says standing.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: .state is more specific
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: so there are multiple numbers for the same pos
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, state 4 is afk
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so you can be standing, while afk
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: so the only thing I can expect from pos is standing, resting, sleeping, and combat...
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and one more...can't think of atm though
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, maybe there's only 4...thought there were 5...
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, the other states are metadata...
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I understand that pos is for display purposes only, I was hoping that it kept pace with state :)
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you're thinking about with keeping pace...they keep pace with each other entirely, but they're two different things...it's not a numerical and descriptive value for the same thing
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: why not?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: what is the purpose of pos other than being a human readable expression of state?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I mean, really, we don't need pos at all.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: pos/state are slightly different
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: pos is your characters physical position
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than changing state to include more numbers, yes we do
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: state is your 'state of mind/actions'
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: afk/running/still/etc
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or even whether logged in
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: aye
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: you can have diff state/pos combos
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I understand all that.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: stand/afk, sit/afk
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good, so what's your question then? :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're fully "paced"...both of them are 100% accurate and in sync at all times
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: that a pos of standing/afk is meaningless, because afk enforces the relationship of the game with the player. You could be floating in outer space and it wouldn't make any difference. To me pos just shows what state is. Unless it is possible for it to have a value outside the state's domain.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if someone were to look at you while afk and sitting, they will see that you're both sitting and that you're afk...you need both values in gmcp to know that
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "to you" is the important thing there...
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're looking at how you wish to use the values, not at what the values actually mean
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, I can understand that others my see me sitting and afk, but from my pov that's irrelevant because I don't control their display.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it is your state and your position, which affects what you can do
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: with few exceptions, gmcp is ver "personal".
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: very*
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's telling things about you
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the data, as exposed, is ony relevant to me. GMCP doesn't tell me what you are doing, but only what I am doing.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: i'm having a problem with swalec's autohunter plugin, it is only advancing me one step. thoughts?
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: gmcp.group is the notable exception.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it's relevant to you, it is showing you your proper state and your proper position
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: ok, I see your point. Thanks for your patience :)
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a lot of overlap between the two, which the gmcp wiki page mentions, but the overlap is just when you're in the normal "playing" modes
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: right. My original thought was, the pos would change to AFK and then when I exited AFK mode it would update back to Standing. But I get your point, though at the moment I can't see how I would use it to any advantage.
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I suspect the gmcp values are just echoing specific values currently used on your char object... it would be much more complicated and unnecessary to try and parse what gmcp should be showing you rather than just grabbing values off your char
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, not everything is important to be triggered upon, I pretty much wondered the same thing when the values were in option102
T3/r3/2011-02-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in option102, there was value in knowing the position in addition to the state because that's where the enemy's name was...in gmcp we have another field for that
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: when on a quest if my quest mob moves to a new room does %gmcp.comm.quest.room autoupdate?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uhh. i'm going to say no, and stop botting.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: anyone with blackberry 9800 here?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: bb 9800.... whats the normal name for it? torch?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: oh. sorry =) using a bold2
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: just wondering which one to take where i can aard decently on
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: never owned a bb before
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A decoy of Friedpiggy Tech: mxiter!
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: bold2 is retty find to quest on it and stuff
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: worlds apart from mxit fp :P
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: was just looking at the contracts and the 5mp camera is sweet
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you are tech savvy enough to set up a tunnel to your pc, any phone will do
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: dont need for pc :) was looking at mud on the move
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: just need guidance as to which model to take
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: pretty sure the difference between a bold2 and torch for mudding is the screen size
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: this seems quite dumb. but how do i add aard to mxit?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: redryn good point
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh cool, dsa has random art images now?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helric Tech: Anyone have a link of up-to-date plugins? I'm looking for the spellup plugin.. the one I have seems to keep casting buffs I already have
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serrin Tech: anyone has any idea how to remove {something} stuff? I mean from the mud client window
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the java telnet client on the aard page is about as reliable as the Italians
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss lowers his head while drawing in a deep breath and lets out a resounding "GRRRUUUUUNT!!!"
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gracefull Bellagree Tech: anyone around to help ?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: depends what you need help with :P
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gracefull Bellagree Tech: omg I have been useing an old version of mush from 4 years ago and i just loaded new one on my new laptop and its so different how do i begine to set this up so i can play i have all these screens all over
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: information option overload
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gracefull Bellagree Tech: i am over loaded holy crap
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gracefull Bellagree Tech: this display is amazing
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gracefull Bellagree Tech: my health mana moves tnl used to be displayed in a bar at the bottom of the screen now there is a window to the right, a communication log windo at the top...oiy
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spitfire Tech: on the newest mushclient how do you get rid of those extra windows and just have the main one?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, disable the plugins associated with the miniwindow you want to get rid of
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spitfire Tech: hey, Thanks Abe
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey abelinc, do you know what to type to make /tmp/swapfile work with swapon ?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just type swapon /tmp/swapfile
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn. ah /tmp/swapfile is too small
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then swapctl -l will list your current swap usage
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Not an Imm Erikson contemplates swapon'ing a file in his /tmp, which is a swap-backed MFS...
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /logs/pagefile 102400 1112 101288 1% 1
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson that sounds circular
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: circular logic = bad unless you know the terminal digit of pi
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sweet, now if only linux would see the full 2 gigs of ram that knoppix and gentoo livecds and --stable see.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm on a 64-bit system with 64 MBs of RAM ;-)
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Presumably it would be OK, as long as I have more swap than swap.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you sure they are not seeing it as opposed to counting differently?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, stop being everything i want to be
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (that was 64 Megs, not Gigs)
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar 1018220k total seems like 1 gig, instead of 2 gigs
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc oh.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Are you sure you're using correct units? Perhaps the unit is blocksize or something?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 64 gigabytes would be so awesome, even windows couldn't fill that i bet
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra, apart from using top or /dev/mem how else may i check
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dmesg
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I would usually use 'free' command...
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: uh, if 'startx' returns that i am lacking a module i915, but i have not specified anything for that in my configs, is there any way to learn what part of the kernel config might contain it ?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: make menuconfig in kernel sources and then type "/i915" when it comes up
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the intel graphics card driver
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: free also lists the 1018220
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: do you have /proc/config?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: graphics/video section, ok!
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it appears that i do not. but i believe i added that in kernel config
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i probably will need to reboot.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you can use .config in your kernel sources too... what does grep 'HIGHMEM' say?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: waiting on a return for grep highmem, it appears that the i915 was already selected in kernel... odd
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you need to tell it which file to grep... full command is of course "grep 'HIGHMEM' /usr/src/linux/.config"
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: CONFIG HIGHMEM=4G CONFIG HIGHMEM=y
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wait no
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: that looks strange, I have no CONFIG_HIGHMEM... are you sure it's not CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm sure that its not.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: ok, looks like the simple way won't work here... you'll have to look through dmesg like abelinc said, and search for anything that looks wrong
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: PSE erratum detected, BIOS microcode update recommended.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Notice: (Execute Disable) protection missing in CPU or disabled in BIOS!
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Initializing HighMem for node 0 (000377fe:0003f500
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Memory: 1017729k/1037312k available (4843k kernel code, 18392k reserved, 2436k data, 428k init, 127328k highmem)
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: atkbd serio0: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying to access hardware directly.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Abelinc i don't see anything else weird looking?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: all those messages look harmless, or at least not related to memory problems
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: next-step?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: shrug... at this point, if I was standing before unknown machine with this problem, I'd make clean, compile it, remove all other kernels from /boot, install the new one, restart. And then hope it was caused by NOHIGHMEM=y kernel that was left there
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn... make clean or mproper?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: there are not many options in kernal that can reduce available memory... and it's not hardware problem since you said that livecd sees all memory
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: just clean
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yep both livecds do
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mrproper would remove your .config too
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argirios Tech: when i press eq for my equipment it says "something" in the item description instead of the actual item name
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argirios Tech: is there any problem with my client?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: It's probably invis.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just your vision
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a problem with your detects
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argirios Tech: oh ok, thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: is there a way to dedicate some HD space specifcly for Mush to have extra vmem
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to, wouldn't be any benefit
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: shoot
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're on an extremely-anemic system, mushclient shouldn't be having any memory issues
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ya this is a pretty crappy labtop
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bad scripts can eat up memory
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: only scripts i have are the ones that come with it and basts
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to make windows bootable again if you accidentally remove your mtldrr?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leonassan Tech: what version?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i don't remember
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it was a professional home edition
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: XP?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think so yeah
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it wasnt vista i know for sure
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: black loading screen with a blue bar that cycled as it loaded
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: except now i have accidentally removed my mtldrr
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and it lets me know this
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You mean ntldr?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i think it said mtldrr
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i can reboot and double check
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Guessing you don't have your install CD?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: netbook
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have neither the install cd, nor a cd drive to install it with
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Ermm... does your BIOS let you boot from another device that you can write to?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: usbs, sd cards, networks
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not sure if i can write to network, but yes
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Check out http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm and maybe you can use USB instead of a CD.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok i will try that once i get this xorg-server up and working
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Or there may be a better page you can find searching for ntldr instead of mtldrr. I'm no expert in this.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right ... i guess.. so
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: although if i can just copy all my files i probably won't miss windows all that much anyways
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone here own a kindel just ordered one for my wife
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yeah, probably a good idea to back up anything crucial before you try anything if you have the option.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: Raistlin, I have a kindle, I love the thing.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gracefull Bellagree Tech: how do you you catch tells only mine are displaying and catching since i changed back to my old laptop after installing a new mush on a new laptop this morning when i type catch tell it doesnt catch them anymore just displayes them i want it the other way around again
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gracefull Bellagree Tech: no idea? me either ..ugh
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(BANNED) Panzer Tech: anyone know where I'd find a parameter option list for C's system()||python's os.system() functions?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: did you try the helpfile?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: these days, they ship with the product as well as are offered online
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(BANNED) Panzer Tech: umm... not really? used google with little succes. I'll dig around VS's helpfiles but in my exp those are garbge
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(BANNED) Panzer Tech: in all honestly msdn has always been crap and the search layout of anything ms is as well. was just wondering if someone could point me at a resource of some sort
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I've found the python docs to be pretty good. You might find them easier to use.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh sweet, it turns out it wasnt that weird i915 error message, it was the lack of an xterm application that kept killing x, i have a desktop now ^_^
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if my audio speakers are not working in windows, linux, knoppix, openbsd, nor when spoken to, is there anything to do with them ?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds like it
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tried them with an ipod?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or similar
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude maybe should just get an ipod.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if they don't work, then chuck em and buy a new pair, i'm guesing
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sometimes a horse is just a horse
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: actually maybe i can turn my phone into an mp3 player.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: brb
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mack Daddy Honid Tech: anyone know of a good android mud client with alias's?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Speaking of which, recommendations for a good ssh client for iOS would be appreciated.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can reccommend Axe 1.0 for android, does wonders
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i believe there is something similar for iphone
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mack Daddy Honid Tech: for ssh on android i use connectbot
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how can i get my quest, gq, and cp miniwindows to appear above my score, status bar, etc miniwins?
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone know why im getting this error Trigger function "skillgain" not found or had a previous error. when im gaining from improving a skill during dounle only thing i have done is open up the test port in another world
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: reboot client may fix it, has for me before. No idea on the reason though.
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: kk brb
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: aye thnks sheni
T3/r3/2011-02-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: np^^
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in my anti-virus program i have an exclusion set up for a folder i have on my desktop, when i try to extract a file in there the anti-virus program still kills the exe is there another way around short of turning off my AV?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I hate to be the 99th person to ask, but what folders/files do I have to copy to a ne MUSHclient install on a different machine to preserve mapper history, plugins, etc.?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: new*
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The main download page for the aardclient has instructions for that.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK, TY
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Invite Tiana Tech: anyone know of a free dlna software that will do hulu?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dlna?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i get my hulu with opera =(
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: using the mush plugin with fiendish's/basts plugins there is a green hp bar outlined in grey that i cant move what do i disable to get rid of it
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: any clue?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: is there a way in excel to say "please sum everything in this column below/above this cell" without hard coding a range?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: use relative ranges in the Row Col syntax. not at work but shouldn't be difficult
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: I'll google relative ranges excel, thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: this works =R1C[-1]:RC[-1]
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: oh sweet :)
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yah...either you do that or you have to play with offsets or indirect :)
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you know that list of blocked websites that isps have to check your dns queries against, is there a way to block additional websites by setting up a similar list on a local lan ?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and if so , can i use bind for that, or um?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i believe it's possible to set up static routes to achieve a similar thing
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: static routes, eh?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'll lycos those next!
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: quite why you'd want to, though....
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, if you just want to block something on your computer only, you could just add a hosts file entry redirecting it to localhost.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: simplest is to just use your hosts file, if it's a single computer
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couldn't you just say to yourself "right, i'm not going to go there"
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts, rofl
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, but i want the computer to not go there also. regardless of who or what third party software might be running
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You'd think so, Tigernuts. But you can use it to block some things that are difficult to block otherwise, like the ads on Hulu.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hulwho?@w
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: my computer does not surf on itself, does yours?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jhav i recently found that hulu is blocked quite well if you have out of date adobe flash
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr yes, so does my cell phone
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i also get this annoying dumprep 0 -k thing
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyways, i installed linux, so now i have lots of other non dumprep 0 -k things to worry over.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: what's the syntax to accept any word in the middle of a sentence in a trigger in mush?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: or better, what's the symbol for this? is it (.*?)
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: .* accepts anything, including zero characters
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: so this should work to trigger on double xp?: ^(.*?)10 minutes of double exp started courtesy of .*
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: hehe, i guess so, since my trigger did go off :P
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: this will trigger even if someone says it
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I use "Double experience for 10 minutes courtesy of *."
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: no need to bring regexp into this
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: ah, ty... what about on the SH message, what do you use?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I haven't found reason to trigger sh message, so I don't use anything for that
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: the trigger you said works for the SH case, but it won't work for the 10 mins of xp from donations...
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: yes, and won't work for hour of double either... those are as separate triggers
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a simple way to make an xterm prompt or bash return math functions, or so on?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or some other utility i may likely have by default?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: for integer math you can use expr
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: for more advanced, use bc
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud when you do loop lines, if it does not match after like 1 line how do i get it to revert?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: from the help file: "The state will change when the specified number is reached, regardless of the number of times the trigger has matched in that time. "
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the problem is after like 2 lines it has not matched, and the next thing the trigger captures is beginning and it will not capture it
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the problem is after like 2 lines it has not matched, and the next thing the trigger captures is beginning and it will not capture it
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not sure what you're trying to do...perhaps a normal trigger with a pattern of *, test if it matches what you want in the body with %match, then update the #state accordingly?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i forgot about #state for a min
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cause it sounds like loop lines won't do what you want...
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: so far loop lines is the only one that has worked the way i need it to for this problem
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm can anyone tell me how come gmcpval("vitals.hp") at the command line doesn't work?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: mushclient
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: command line isn't parsed for script commands
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth nods at you in agreement.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's an execute now option, though
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm so this needs to be in a script?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try game -> immediate
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: gotcha thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: everytime I restar mush the wrap output at column number resets to 120, is there a way to keep that from happening?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: that option is at the bottom of the output config btw (alt+5)
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: Where is My SPellup Window from BAST Plugins i dnt see IT !!!!
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: how would i go about replacing what is dispalyed by the mud for another messager for instance
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i want the grey moon to read red moon
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: a trigger to capture it
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: trigger
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: and just output to world whatever new message you want
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: so trigger gag then send
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: how might i call an alias in another plugin within a plugin i'm writing?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You sending to script in the first alias? If so you can Execute("secondalias") Execute parses for commands and other aliases.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Send just sends right to the mud.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does anyone uses bast's v6 spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you use the miniwindow_spellup plugin too?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i love it
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I loaded the plugin, but it's not showing a miniwindow for me. did you have to do anything to make it show?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: try sba sa all
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i think thats the command to populate
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why would I want to add blockers? no, I already added spells.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: mspell spellup toggle
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks zorine
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Must have been a lot of mudders involved in the net. That recall button stayed up top and center until FF 4beta.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: ok, geek humor failure
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so technically, if my phone were botting, even if i was at keys, i would get in trouble for it, right?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Do you really need an answer to that. Seriously?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dugrant, if i do, i doubt you could give it
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Oh.. burn?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: general q/a goes on the questions channel, and all of the answers you're looking to are in "help bot"
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: The 'ask yourself this question' in the fourth paragraph covers just about everything in one sentence, really.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i asked myself just now
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you were too stupid to know the answer?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I bow to you fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: fiendish is stupidity illegal?
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i wish
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It should be
T3/r3/2011-02-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: should be
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: anyone know how to keep the wrap output at column number from reseting whenever I quit mush out?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there any easy way to save a movie you watch on hulu or adult websites to your computer?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in linux
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i wonder how hard it would be to program a keno game in lua?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wonder why anyone would bother
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: for building purposes as a object prog
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will it solve the world food shortage?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: maby its enuf mudders get so addict to playing keno that they forget to eat ergo more food for others
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure it would be like creating a scale model of the Eiffel Tower out of dried gravy
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: hmmmm
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: gravy
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: possibly personally rewarding, but ultimately pointless
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What is keno?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlorth Tech: keno means empty in Greek
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: is this whhat you mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keno
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: why do i get {/spellheaters} in my prompt randomly.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your spells are cold?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: you think it is a plugin?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like a mush-specific plugin error
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: yeah you are right.....
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'd go back to pen and paper and see if the problem persists
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snyder Tech: reloading the plugin worked
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned orthodox solutions
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snyder P
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchanting Flavia Tech: why do I keep seeing the message "tick in 5 seconds" is this something new or can I turn it off?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: type 'tick'
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: which client?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchanting Flavia Tech: zmud
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's mudside, tick toggles it
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it is?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: see actions/tick timer... has a tick reminder thing...
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tick toggles extra info next to the tick message
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the warning before tick occurs is clientside
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: kill it, or you'll be scratching for days
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: anyone here for a quick question on new mush
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: usually. But I always tell people, ask the question. You'll usually get an answer.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: --- new install of new mush --- downloaded bast package -- i unzip as advised to the plugins folder --- do the contents of the unzip need to be in the plugins folder
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: hence
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: plugins - then a v6 folder inside plugins
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: or should all of v6 contents be inside the plugins folder
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: doesn't matter
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can choose the path where your plugin file is
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: ok will try again i am not able to get the spellup plugin to work
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: what exactly does that mean
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it means you did something wrong
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: lol i got that part
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try reloading the plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: did a few times
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: --- bast spellup v6
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: bb too much spam on screen
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read help spamreduce
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: ok back any suggestions on how to fix that
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: Run-time error
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was thinking much the same thing
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: wish i would have just stayed with the older version at this point
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: 0h 20
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: once a portal is added to mapper does it consider it one room away from anywhere?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: seems to
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: derp i should just figure it out
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: easy to test, just try the room north of the academy portal
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: first i have to unlazy myself and upgrade mush and the plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: but its sunday and i dont wanna
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: After A Piece Of Herodotus's stupid remark, Define baps him upside the head; he DID deserve it.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ow :(
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: can anyone point me to a good disarm script for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a disarm script?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rearm
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: to automatically rearm
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the weapon switcher script has rearm trigger
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: bast v6
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'd like to create some lua code that will receive an area name (partials allowed) much like the mudside "runto" command and decide which area name it is then proceed with the rest of my code. Any tips?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out the speedwalk plugins ;-)
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can you direct me to one? I use MUSHClient
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out the comli site listed in help www, as well as bast's zipfile
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh, I have Bast's, didn't realize he had a sw plugin bundled?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he may, may not, look a bit...they're generally named pretty recognizably
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and since they're all in 1 folder, it's easy to scan
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahh, ok. Thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: how come lua doesnt have a math.round function
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there a way to open more than one world at a time in tf, or do i need to run multiple xterms of tf
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson, how do you make your /tmp into a swap space thing like you'd described?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know why the bast spellup plugin occasionally stalls? It's happened to me 3 times in 2 days now
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure your prompt ends in %c
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, definitely got that already
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: on both prompt and bprompt
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Doing bsp fast fixes it, just wondering if there's a particular underlying cause
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anybody make use of Bast's broadcast_xxx plugins?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I have few installed, if that's what you are asking
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Not installed, wondering if anyone makes use of them and is familiar with LUA enough to help me with his broadcast_area one.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I have poked around a bit, I made little scan-coloring plugin based on broadcasts from cp/gquest. It's the same as with GMCP, only the messages are different (and very well documented in the broadcast plugin)
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well most of his broadcast plugins have a show_info on them. I use broadcast_quest and cp, but I don't know how to actually get info from his broadcast_area plugin. I get an error from loadstring
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: if the error is only with one specific plugin, I don't think I can help, I don't even have broadcast_area installed
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It's not necessarily an error with the plugin, just a matter of understanding his code enough to know what to load from it. The plugin seems to follow the same format as the rest, but I'm not familiar with the loadstring and serialize functions in LUA
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: anyone know what linksys's router page address is? Like my netgear is routerlogin.net, what is it for linksys?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: go google portforward, they have a comprehensive list
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i usually just go by ip
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: you should just be able to go to the gateway ip and get the page
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: broadcast_area looks like it's not used anywhere in his other plugins, maybe it's just untested and broken. I started from code that I was sure is working -> looked how miniwin_gq is done
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, that's what i said but she's obstinate
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: I installed the Bast Spellup Plugin but i dnt see the spellup Window ...help
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Is there a way to create an alias client side in the aardclient which will do a Note() if the current gmcp roomid?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: of* the current
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But you can get look at that with the mapper why do you need an alias?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just mouse over the current room.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Because if ANYTHING happens when looking at the mapper it interrupts that process and I need to find a LOT of uids.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why take your hands off the keyboard
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: An alias would be quicker
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: res, pvar = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","room.info")
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Note(pvar)
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Will give you all the information on the room.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: 3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264 is the plugin ID for the GMCp handler.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: That returns 0 for me
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Metria are you using Mushclient? You have the GMCP handler installed? The mapper installed?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: Yes. Yes. Yes.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: And how might I extract JUST the num from that? Note(pvar.num)?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: check out http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP for the way the info is shared.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hint you'll have to change the room.info to something more narrow :)
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahh, k
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did it work for you though Xaxz?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Spitting out all the info?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahh, yes, all worked, and switching to room.info.num worked too. Thanks!!
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: could someone advise me how I can de-uglify my MUSHclient font in wine?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: in cmud what would be the command to force execute a trigger inside an alias script
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: anyone good with mush be able to write me a trigger than would use gmcp.char.status.hunger so I'd gulp whenever my hunger was less than 50?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yeah I'd say anyone who is good with Mushc should be able to write that :)
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why less than 50?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: honestly though do you quest every 30 minutes?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: as opposed to 70, which is where the combat penalty kicks in?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: or maybe a better question, does anyone know what plugins (aard client and bast) would be gagging the '## You start to feel thirsty.' messages?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I just added a drink to my finish quest alias and I never go hungry.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mendaloth that would be awesome...
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If the penalty kicks in at 70 then why are SH's set permanently to 50?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: well, I sit idle a lot, otherwise I'd do that
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'd also like to add 2 refresh casts to mine
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ... penalty?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no idea, but that was the explanation given for why the nohunger wish is set at 70
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, you dodge a tad less or possibly hit a bit less hard when you get hungry.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what about when bloated?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: helpfiles say it only affects healing
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'd like to think that Lasher is smarter than a helpfile. Almost sure he was the one responding to the point.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: that'd be something pretty important to leave out of a helpfile
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: helpfiles are out of date all the time
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and obviously nobody reads them anyways.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Define grins evilly at Dokkar.
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Is there a way to call a function in one plugin from another?
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: In MUSH
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=CallPlugin
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: zomg, help files
T3/r3/2011-02-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any grand list of room ids of the starting room of areas out there?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what's a good simple display manager login thing for x?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: xdm?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: kdm or gdm if you want all the desktop environment dependencies
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i was thinking a nice background wallpaper, a login + password box
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and maybe a box to specify which wm to use
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: xdm will work fine
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: but if you're already using kde or gnome there's no reason really not to use their login manager
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nah i'm using root weave right now
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: other question... how much noise is normal on wifi ?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like is -512 dBm a bit much?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: -512 dBm is unmeasurable.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maskull grins evilly.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is a signal-to-noise-ratio output by a program like wavemon, useless then if it lists noise as -512 dBm ?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yes, it's talking complete crap.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: I see.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson, how can i set up a /tmp memory thing like what you have?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: 50 bels is more orders of magnitude than almost anything you can encounter in the universe.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my signal level is -349 dBm ?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Varies wildly by OS (and even within sometimes)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Also crap. .00000000000000000000000000001 nanowatts? Please.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i see.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so i should trust the -92dBm listed under iwconfig instead?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or Do 'something' that does not require special tools like a saudering or soldering device?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers intently at Not an Imm Erikson.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 0 dBm is 1 milliwatt of power received. -90 dBm is one billionth of that, so no, it's wrong also :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, -92 is possible. Very very low though.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, i'd like to improve upon that.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: When it comes to RF, I'm way more used to thinking in dBmV though.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, but doesnt that require more near and far field complications
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'd rather focus just on what my computer can tell me... rather than have to think =s
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its just, erikson, for a Volt to be a Volt, there has to be 2 points and a distance between them right?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Er. No... they're interchangeable if you know the impedance of the antenna path.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: difference, not distance ^_^
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok. impendance i dont know
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: RF is AC, so you have two points; the size of the excursion.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: impdenance. meh cant type
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, so RF is ac, which is lots of tiny dc's. which still doesnt make my signal any better lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: should i get like a cantannae or something?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ir a smarter wifi card maybe ?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: one cantannA, many cantannae.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: When was AC a bunch of DC's?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: spank when did god make the universe
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, a lot of datacenters have air conditioning, so...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: salvanas ok. should i get some cantannae or something
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson yes datacenters sound nice
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so does wisconsin.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: is anyone besides me confused right now?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: oh, and it's cantEnnae.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Please explain to me how AC is DC?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas will shut up now...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: spank, would you like me to reference a book, a website, or to type lots of stuff on tech?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: all of the above
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: okay then, i will reference a book.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: a book that is also found in google books!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but that i have a hard copy of resting atop my radio as a fire hazard.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: So are you saying that each half wave constitutes a DC current?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: please review 'Electronics' By Armen H. Zemanian, Associate Professer of Electrical Engineering, New York University' , published by McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lcn - 60-16724
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: spank no, i'm trying to say that if you map out a wave on a cartesian grid that it will make more sense
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and i'm trying to suggest that having me describe it, will be less helpful than reading the book yourself ^^
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: "..ac, which is lots of tiny dc's..." what an interesting pov :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do you share that pov , anaristos?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: it's a biiiiig stretch
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: of course ac is dc until it comes back :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, since i don't care to argue about the laws of physics...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: electronics is all about simplifying and abstracting what's really going on, so I guess you can see it that way in some scenarios
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: let's shift to a better topic, like making wifi work better, =) or maybe hole mobility in semiconductors
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude blinks innocently.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, I am not sure that there is such a thing as native ac power, so that might satisfy your physics.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr i dunno, for me, electronics is about accessing radio and video via my computer
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure, and that's your abstraction
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no... it's my personal motivation for obtaining electronics
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: What about hole mobility in fullerene tube?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: spank i don't have any fullerene tubes =(
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: is fullerine an native entity?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I want some.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anaristos, native in the Q continuum sense?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I assume you have sniffed for which channels are free and are using those?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: native as in "it happens spontaniously in nature"
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no, i just was wishing my wifi was less laggy, and wonder if the noise is at fault
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: in my experience, the default channels are what everyone is using, so my switching channels you can get more umpf in your wifi
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: That spectrum is free for a reason. Lot's of noise out there.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yeah, cell phones, 18 wifi routers , and microwave ovens
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: all in my area .
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try using channel 1 or 11 instead of 6
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right now on ch 8
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I have to dial a special number to talk to my microwave oven.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: spank what number?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Isn't the channel selection just where you start? I thought the whole thing was based on frequency hopping.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you can ask the OEM for the code.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: there is channel overlap as well
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: rannr so basically, you understand electronics?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: pi to the 10^23
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wouldn't go that far, but I have some knowledge
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok. i'd love to ask you about the real world versions of capacitance someday.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: I'm sorry, the number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sorry erikson, fingers too fat, please mash keypad ( from the simpsons)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but i am a networking expert
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr so you understand nodes, routing tables, bind servers, and secondary routing tables?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I tried dialing imaginary numbers on my cell phone, but it reads i as 4 and it really screws me up.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that stuff always looks neat =) but i am too lazy to learn it.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure I do
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr cool =)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Capacitance isn't real, it's imaginary. Otherwise calculating impedances would be a lot simpler...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I always get the home office of NAMBLA when I do that.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if i set up a local dns cache it'd save me a bunch of time
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson but capacitance is really real
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if your isp sucks, then yes
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ranrr, it does.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: <--- ISP suks
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sheni , check out cox.com, it sucks more
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nah... you have no idea... 56k dial up killer ftl
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sheni i'd love to be on dialup, if they didnt require me to buy a landline phone
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: dont even conect at 56k, get on at 44
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: on Satelite ?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: satellite sounds fun
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Not if you care about latency.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson, so you're saying this book's concept of a constant of proportionality doesnt really exist outside of imagination?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson i don't care about latency unless it comes in the form of lag.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: latent talent is fine.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: on the other hand, if it was nascent talent, i'd have to get a dictionary
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, every word in that sentence is English, but they sure don't mean anything together.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ok I have a question for you. What do you get when you cross a mountain climber with a mosquito?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: malaria
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: NOTHING! They can't be crossed: A mosquito is a vector and a mountain climber is a scalar!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: erikson, let's try this way.... C Dn = K2 (DIn/dV )
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh wait, dI
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Don't drink and derive.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: if the mosquito is swatted by the mountain climber...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anaristos or if the tower of pizzas leans too far
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, if the mosquito is swatted by a mountain climber is such a way that the mosquito's vector is not changed, then you have mM :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anaristos but if the mosquito enters the field through which the climber is moving
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: at any rate the mosquito's vector magnitude will be increased by m.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: by a factor of m, that is.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone know any reason why the GMCP mapper in aardclient doesn't properly use the "enter pool" cexit from the amulet of planes area?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Or I should say, it works fine in my client, but not another persons?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zador Tech: In what programming language was Aardwolf made? C?C++?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: i would guess c/c++
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmmm, any way to save a table in a plugin SaveState and load it later?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUSTclient
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mushclient*
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You have to seralize it first.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: serialize even.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmmm, ok so if I'm using a loadstring to initialize a global variable.. if the GetVariable() doesn't exist, I get an error. How do I avoid this?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: loadstring (GetVariable ("room_list")) ()
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: bad argument #1 to 'loadstring' (string expected, got nil) is the error I get
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn laptop designers
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i had to disassemble everything except for the screen because i wanted to do a simple thing that is cleaning the damn heatsink
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how about a hatch over the vent and heatsink? too much to ask for?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: hmmm... vacuum cleaner?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: a vacuum cleaner won't pull the dust/lint carpet through the heatsink, i'm afraid
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and there's a grill over the heatsink and vent. sitting there, mocking me
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: how do you quit tintin from command line
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: #quit
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, we can't have a hatch there
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: #ERROR: #UNKNOWN TINTIN-COMMAND 'quit'.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you have to remove the bottom covers, then the keyboard, then the top cover, then all the mobo cables, then the motherboard and THEN you can clean your damn vent
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: well, it's not something thats meant to be cleaned all the time
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the worst part is, that you could remove the fan without removing the mobo, if the engineers hadn't put the screws on the other side
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i clean it quite often, actually
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: oh... now i see the problem
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my laptop isn't one of the ones that sit on a table all day. i move around with it and use it in different enviroments. some of them very dirty
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i'm cleaning it every month or two
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah, I wouldn't recommend mudding on the toilet
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't usually mud from the toilet, i read there
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but mudding from the toilet sounds pretty good
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if things get intense, there could be splashing
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the only problem is, that the speakers cable doesn't reach there
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ugh.. i seem to have a malfunctioning invmon plugin that, even though I disabled and removed it is still firing this stuff "{invmon}2,498310506,-1,26"
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try tags inv off
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and that's why i love tech chan
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: hmmm nope still seeing {invmon}2,518644327,-1,26 when i change equipment after turning inv tags off
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hmm, try just invmon
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: genius
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: now maybe you could tell me why the invmon miniwindow never appears on my screen when i install the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: dunno, I don't use it, might want to ask the plugin writer if you can't get any other help
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: meh as long as its not throwing tags all over the place anymore im not too worried about it
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is there a pool of mushclient scripts that provide plugins that monitor level gains / level times / average qgains over remort / tiers etc?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You are describing Bast's plugin....finger bast
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: and that are also easy to install in the aardmushclient version?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for mushclient plugins, 3 places to go, really...start with the latest aardmush, then add in bast stuff, then check out comli's page in help www
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's are now easy to install (didn't used to be)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's stuff unzips into a single folder...stick that folder into your plugins directory, then go file -> plugins, click add and select the one that you want to add...if it needs other bast stuff, it should automatically know about it and enable that as a prereq
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: I tried out Bast's version of mushclient
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: it has all desirable features
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: BUT
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: sadly it keeps hanging up or bugging around
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: on my laptop
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: either the gquest window crashes or whatever.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: also, I figured it very resource intensive and have somehow a laggy feeling when playing with that mush version
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: are you using it with the new client or what?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast hasn't had a version of mushclient in quite a while, so if you tried bast's mushclient, that's quite a few versions old
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i am still using the old aard client
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: but figured it would be smart to update
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the new aard client
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: since the new aard version is pretty sexy :p
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah no question, switch up!!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: but since I am looking for these statistic plugins for months already
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: it would be a nice opportunity to get them installed too
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it is necessary for some of bast's stuff (at least a gmcp client is)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it was a pain to switch, but worth it
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i am just not very well at these things
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: happy that i know how to do an alias with mushclient lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: that's my level :p
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although one of my (own) scripts is still broken, because Bast changed him miniwin API -- ah, upgrading is such sweet sorrow
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good thing about this client is that there's no "install"...it just unzips to a directory, so you can have the old one and the new one open next to each other
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I've have mine straight from version control -- always an easy update path, although tricky to get it working in the first place
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is there any way to toggle that chats only appear in the communication log and not both in the playing window and communication capture?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the chats window
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change the echo
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tons of right-click options in the new client
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is there a way of accessing room flags like prison on GMCP?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prison no, other flags yes
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bank, safe, graffiti, maze, pk, shop, terrain
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: underground?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: underground is a terrain, yes
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: thanks, that's a shame only wanted the prison and norecall ones
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta use recon for that
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: when trying to load Bast's consider plugin, I get the following error output: Line 1: Expected '<', got "P" (content not permitted here) (Cannot load)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone has a clue how to solve that?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Is their anyway to alias gear by serial numbers for quick swaps?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: how?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way you alias anything, really...depends on your client
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: mushclient
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Get (Serial number) bag
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Get (Serial number) bag, does not work for me
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: get 409587367 bag
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it does
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: hmm...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: replace Serial number with your actual serial number and bag with a keyword from your bag :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for aarditems, get/put (123456) bag works...for all items, the id: number works
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: get 302772 4.bag
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to call your level 90 aardaxe 90axe, then you can create an alias to unconditionally swap your typing of 90axr with (123456) or with its Id numer
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aztar Tech: ah... more than one bag... you can use the serial number on it too... get 304467 6355455
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if using the aard serial number, then you must include at least the opening (, since it's a keyword with the parens
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: thanks alot guys, much appreciated.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the Id number is strictly numerical, so don't need ()
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there any way to connect to aard via ssh instead of telnet?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: i don't think aard has an ssh port for the game
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: so if that's the case, no
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: on mushclient, does anyone know how to keep the 'wrap output at column number' (press alt+5, bottom of the page) from resetting every time I turn mush off?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jek, have you tried using file -> save world details before closing out?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to test for a permissions issue, try right-clicking, do run as administrator, changing it, saving world details, then quit & go back in
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I have my mushclient on my desktop and I'm using an adminstrator account
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the same
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, how do you do what you just said?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click, do run as administrator
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: what am I right clicking on?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wherever you start mushclient
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok, what do I do now?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now make it how you want it, do save world details, quit out and open it back up (doesn't have to be admin this time) to see if that took
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: no, so I guess a plugin is changing that on me?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could be, will probably have to wait for fiendish, as he knows the layout plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: does anyone use cmud and mush? how do the 2 compare in terms of ease of scripting?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: I use Atlantis
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which type of scripting you're used to
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: im used to cmud's but the mapper kinda sucked and i stopped playing for a bit
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: as a complete beginner, i found it easier to script simple stuff in cmud
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: now im using mush and the mapper seems awesome tho
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: but mush has that package going for it too
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the mapper is the BEST thing about mush
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cmud's mapper is still head and shoulders above mushclient's
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i find zmud is more friendlier to new people scripting
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elvendar noddles in total agreement at Arch-Mage Raistlin.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: orly? how so abelinc?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: but its so damned annoying to set up abelinc
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: i found it clunky, or maybe just coz i didn't set it up right
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: and to maintain
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paths have costs, can know recall rooms vs norecall rooms (and similar portal)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when fully set up, it truly is a shortest path from anywhere on the MUD to anywhere else on the MUD in 1 click
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: oic
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm, but i didn't like the cmud scripting language though, it wasn't really intuitive and i had to do workarounds even for basic stuff
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: like playing with arrays
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: now back to your question zorine mush on the other hand IMO a bit more picky on triggers and such but the gmcp mapper and other plugings are awesome
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: but if i could have the gmcp mapper on cmud i would choose cmud tho
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: my personal opinion tho
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hm
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud's mapper is fully compatible with gmcp...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and if you don't like the cmud scripting language, you don't have to use it
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i just could never get the thing workin right
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it has a few other languages built-in, including lua
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: oh i didn't know it had lua
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: maybe i should revisit it then
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: thanks myrkul
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm if cmud has lua, can i just import mush lua scripts into cmud?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is my math wrong to think that a 40 weight weapon is heavier than a 15 weight primary weapon?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: depends who you ask
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking back on tech -h, no zorine, you cannot import mush lua scripts into cmud
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ah ok
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua is an extensible language...the style would be the same, but all of the important bits are program-specific
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: i see
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: dang,
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: the mush spellup script by bast is really cool
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua isn't meant for a MUD client, so things like aliases/triggers/worlds/etc are invented in it
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: is there any equivalent in cmud
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can check out davos.aardcharn.com for some cmud scripts
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud also has an in-client script repository
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and vampiredude: for you, no, a 40 weight weapons is not heavier than a 15 weight primary weapon
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger vampiredude: Level 70 Male Vampire Soldier (Tier 0)....help soldier: Bonuses: Dual wield weapons regardless of weight.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you subclass change away from being soldier, then you will no longer be able to dual the 40 weight weapon while pri wielding the 15 weight
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so soldier isnt useless after all
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have 2 abilities, one for pvp
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Who ever said Soldier was useless?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: a marine i had for a roomate once in college
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bury your face in your hand and sigh.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he was from kansas, though... um thanks for explaining it abelinc
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: about how much should it cost to get a mainspring adjusted in a wristwatch / can i do it myself
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: buy a digital watch :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: $5, wal-mart ;-)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: for real?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i didnt know walmart repaired mainsprings
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Cain killd Abelinc Tech: buy a digital watch :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so in otherwords, abelinc doesnt know
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: no springs attached
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i see the problem here.. this clock is full of WHEELS! Three days slow, that's what it is.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Well, you could attempt to do it yourself, and then spend $5 for a new one after you totally futz the spring into oblivion...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc knows that it'd have to be a helluva special watch to make it worth the effort, to repair a 150 year old technology
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: salvanas i'd rather pay a profession smith of sorts to do it, just not sure what a fair price is
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc it cant be that old can it lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lots of watches are still mechanical.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: The technology is 150 years old, not your watch :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: japan makes them, switzerland makes them, albania makes them, even russia makes them
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it can (and is)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and china!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you'd be surprised, often watchmakers/repairmen can be pretty bored from disuse of their trade and will often do it for cheap or free just to be useful
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus yes, and some of them don't like you for not having emmigrated here, and will be really mean
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there aren't many truly mechanical watchmakers anymore
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: which begs the question... Why are you asking us idiots, and not just get a quote from a watchmaker? :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and it's helpful to know a fair price...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i emigrated outta the states lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most watches that you think are mechanical are electromechanical
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus you lucky sod
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: im in peru for now
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: next stop libya?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ecuador next
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: we've got some classic watches, and I've had to get them repaired.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: drc... or uzbek would be preferred
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: then colombia, panama, costa rica, etc
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gwa how much did that run you?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: gonna try to catch a sailboat in the bahamas and be a deckhand for a while
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: ah, so you're on a roll. You're running from the law.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fair price depends on the mechanism...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rolex oyster won't be the same as swatch
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: we went to a small jewelry store owner in our area, and he didn't charge.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: not much its cheap here and I'm actually drawing unemployment *shhhh*
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: been on the lam for 8 months now
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, i asked gwarai atlanta
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't it be hard to draw unemployment and be on the lam at the same time?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: they were good watches, and he was pleased to do the work - so he didn't charge.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not unless its federal
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Depends on how many different identities you've set up...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but states adminsiter the unemployment, and not all states match data
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you'd think so. apparently the surplus of unemployed due to the oil spill has made an audit of the louisiana unemployment dept. pretty impossible
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, you sound sort of dishonest
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: its really a lot easier than you think
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: can i turn you in, in exchange for a form letter from some official office somewhere?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Sort of? :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: good luck
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: my pot dealer has drawn unemployment for 4 years
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: salvanas well, my neighbor is on unemployment, and getting state rehab money, which he spends on assault rifles and marijuana.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and tells me how his buddy owns the place he was fired from, and can get his job back as soon as the unemployement runs out
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i fill out an online form and they direct deposit into my account. its pretty painless really
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: during the time which, he is taking federal student aid and pell grants to go to school
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: double dipping from pell, and the state rehab money.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and you're not supposed to use drugs while taking pell.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so by comparison, vagus is not quite as dishonest
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if he's dealing pot, he's not unemployed :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you have to earn unemployment money, by working at a legitimate job and get laid off for reasons other than your performance
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyway, people shouldn't deal pot, they should grow their own
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: all of which happened to me
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas suggests we take this to Gossip. Or just kill it. :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: kill -9
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and to be honest, my former company lied about how long i'd worked for them so they could pay me less in UE payments
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: times are hard...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they conveniently forgot to mention my time with their previous LLC when reporting my employment to the workforce office
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus the us department of defence makes mistakes like that often too
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think being laid of for bad reasons is bad, i think lying about how long you've worked there to pay you less is bad, but then, double-drawing on benefits is also bad
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: while every other employee kept their time from the previous LLC mine magically disappeared
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: two wrongs don't make a right!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: But three rights do make a left!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: But three wrongs do! ;)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude grins evilly at Not an Imm Erikson.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas likes mixing metaphors.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i worked there for 3 years and they only reported the last 6 months b\c they changed their name
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so instead of X amount i made X-80 per week
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so yea i said screw them and biggity bounced, like a boss
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, how much you get per month in unemployment
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: like. a boss.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and could you be re-hired at your last job?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: about 700
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and that's enough to travel on in south america?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: comfortably?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the company has dissolved since
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: been doin it 8 months now
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grin, i had an employer that dissolved once too.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but, comfortably?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that'd cover half my mortgage
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like you can eat steak and carne asadas?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and go to movies or alcoholic establishments?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: here in Peru its really cheap
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea all the time man
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Maybe I should move to peru.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how much does it cost to get a visa there?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: have you been even by a Grue in Peru?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i stay at hostels and work in exchange for my room and board
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is it like mexico where you just pay 15$ to the border cops?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eaten*
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it is dark. you are alone. the grue eats you
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, eaten, thanks sweetie
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: its free for americans, but residence can take a while to get because everything administrative here is retardedly slow
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: typing left handed :-/
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You give Tigernuts a long and passionate kiss, it seems to last forever...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so deportation... is slow?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol yea
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lol.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok ... well maybe i should move to peru .
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: if i wanted to i could go around and find a real job here easily
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as opposed to the blindingly-fast US government
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how much you think it costs to get down there?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc you're not a fan of the department of justices's executive office of immigration review?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: Peru actually has one of the fastest growing and most stable economies in SA
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: wierdly enough
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm pretty apathetic toward it, vampire :-)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i see.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: spiritair is your friend
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: spirit air, really? not cuba linda? k
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they fly to Lima
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah. lima. land of beans.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is it spanish or portuguese i need to learn?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: I'm in Miraflores right now, nice part of town
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: spanish
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: castellano really
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: castellano... is that like castillean spanish?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: spanish but that's what they call it here
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: like say, i was gonna go to borders, and pick up a book?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: what does any of this have to do with tech there are other channels more approiate then tech
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: just spanish, maybe some quechua wouldnt hurt but that would be easier to learn here
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do i ask the short, balding brown haired portly guy with glasses and a nametag for spanish?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, spanish.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: this is all very technical, raist
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: q/a or gossip is where this discussion should be takin place
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and although the portly guy with glasses, a nametag, and brown hair which is balding, at borders bookstore is pretty intelligent, i don't want to dig into minutiae of al anguage i havent learned yet in my inquiry of ' where' point' ugh' ugh'
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not q/a
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: wa wa wa waaaaaaa
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Rata, not sure who you mean, but is he your quest mob? If so, type 'quest info', that'll give you the area and roomname.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mushclient, if i want a trigger to capture a multiple word variable, how would i do that?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH's default matching style is glob, which works the same whether it's single or multiword wildcard...*...you can also use regular expressions if you tick the checkbox, in which case you can be more flexible or restrictive with your matching pattern
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so instead of %1 like i'd use in zmud it's *? then *=@Variablename?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the * is in the trigger pattern...it's still %1 in the action part
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: or rather, @variablename=*
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: oh ok
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: do i include ()'s?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, say, if you had a trigger on "You get disarmed and your * falls from your hand", then action on "get %1 wear %1", then if your weapon were called "A dagger of Aardwolf", it would trigger on "You get disarmed and your A dagger of Aardwolf falls from your hand", and would send "get A dagger of Aardwolf" and "wear A dagger of Aardwolf"...that would perform those steps, but wouldn't actually work on Aard because (1) that's not the right disarm text, and (2) while it sees "A dagger of Aardwolf", those aren't its keywords
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i see your point
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i just want something that keeps track of a keyword for items equipped to certain slots so that I can have aliases that are able to manipulate those slots regardless of the name of the item inside
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: similar to how the weapon switcher works i guess but for other slots
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, an easy way to do it is to copy/paste weaponswitcher...change variablenames & the plugin ID
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: using the new aardwolf mushclient, i still don't receive a tone when being paged.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is that bug not fixed? or do I have to toggle something?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't gotten a termbell from Aard in years...I set a trig for it
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mushclient's trigger window, send field, what's the correct syntaxt to for @var1=@var2?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: cuz it just sends a = to the mud lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have to change the drop-down for send to:
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to world means send to world...i.e. send to Aard
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute and send to script offer increased parsing
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: hrrm
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i loaded the bast miniwindow_stats
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: but i don't see it
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is tehre a command to update it? or to load it?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i had the same problem with all the miniwindows from bast
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: none would open on my screen
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: well, i got the window that shows qtime, etc
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: nvm
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: it just appeared.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: after 2 mins lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Vagus, did you have the miniwin_tabwin plugin loaded? That seemed to help me with a similar problem
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: probably not
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so, i thought i'd make an alias for wear that takes your entered keyword and stores it in a variable. Then a trigger detects which slot it's equipped to and stores copies the wear keyword to the slot's variable. make sense? probably over-complicated for what i wanna do lol, but im just trying to figure out the syntaxt for mushclient, really, and I can't make @var1=@var2 lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: wtf
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: getting spammed with that
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone has a clue what that is?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that happened to me too
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: doesn't stop
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: disable the plugin
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: yeah, but which?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i think its the broadcast spells
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: if you saw me setting up mushclient, you'd knew that aardwolf is mostly a game for computer freaks lol
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: it is, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i started playin aard in computer science class so yea
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea im feeling pretty inadequate lol. why is this so complicated? i cant even get a trigger to capture a damn variable
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is Mush, if you can't hack it as a coder you'll just have to wait with the rest of them.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: very helpful thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: say i want the client to capture the keyword i enter AFTER i type the word wear...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: can it do that?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so i have to go learn freakin lua to be able to write a mud trigger? that seems a bit much
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok, so in the trigger window, all i want to send is a command to the client for ar1=ar2. what do i have to have checked and whatnot? i know i need to change the send to dropdown, but to what? to script? it still just sends a = to the mud
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: shoulda read @var1=@var2
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and there was much rejoicing
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: any zmud wizards on?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ask your question :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: some of us are good at different parts
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: nice :P
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: I want a trigger that captures the nextline
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: nextline the mud puts out
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: so when I type where mob
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: the trigger captures the room name
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: doable? :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to do it on when you type where mob...you have no way of knowing that the next thing that the mud outputs is the result of that
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: when I type where gond, the very next line every time is Gondor, the Bishop's assista The Bell Tower
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: I want it to capture "the bell tower"
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your tests are flawed...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: youre probably right but I dont see your logic
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: what you wanna do is create an alias for 'where'
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD sends you plenty of output without you typing stuff
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can type where gond when I'm saying something on tech, for example
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: so that when you type 'where bob' it will turn on the trigger that captures 'where'
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can type where gond right as your spellup script is sending c armor
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at A Nimwit Velian.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that trigger should NOT be "capture the next line"...it should be "capture stuff that fits the output style of a where output"
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: then as soon as you see the "where" line it will capture and close out the trigger
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: what would the command be
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: you can use #T+ whereCapture
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: yeah I figured that
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: as long as you name your trigger 'whereCapture'
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: then #T- whereCapture (at the end of the capture)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: then where %1;#T-
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: but what would the 1st part be
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: basically #Alias where {#T+ whereCapture;#SEND where %1}
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: I got the alias part
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i'd recomend using regex to read in the trigger line
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: what about the trigger
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: the room name will always be 29 spaces in
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: hey abelinc, can you think of a good way to capture just the room part of 'where mob'
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: problem i come into is when the mob name is long
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I have a way
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Courtesy fiendish, but it can break easily. One sec
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: 'where maarg' in Stardock gives "Maarg, Ruler of the 5th Circ On a Balcony"
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ^(.{29})(.+)$
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i understand the name chops off, but how would you get a trigger to recognize that
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It can break very easily, but a second use usually works
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: cause it's a simple space after the cut off
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Where is aligned at the 29th space
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ok so for that trigger we'd need client side tags, not a #T+ in an alias
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I don't know how to implement it in anything but MUSH, I'm sorry, but yes, that trigger would be turned on, "where mob", then turned off. With a check in it to see if you get "There is no..."
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone know how to fix the problem with basts
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: stat plugin where it does whois every tick
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i set pagesize to 0 and i thought that was the fix but apprantly im missing a step
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm using cmud, i get random changes in color for the room name where im using #sub to remove the {rname} rag
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: anyone experienced it before?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: it's probably overwriting the ansi codes.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: just upgrade to gmcp and problem solved :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: if you're using cmud why use the room tags at all though? use gmcp
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: but no, never dealth with color bleeds.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: oh I just got back to using cmud and all my scripts are old school, using telopts and tags
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: will port the stuff to gmcp once exams are over, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: its so much better. truly.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: yup lol i have a messy trigger on statmon that i can just turn off and speed up my experience immensely with telopts
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: gmcp i mean
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: yep, using gmcp i've eliminated prompt/statmon entirely, it's quite nice
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: is there any documentation on gmcp triggers in cmud? i'm looking to trigger on state change, from sleeping to standing
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there probably is, but I know it only by use
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: cmud includes the documentation for it. but basically you make gmcp trigger and put char.status in the pattern line.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: then in your script you'll use the %gmcp variable to access the status
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I believe you cannot make a trigger on anything past the package.field depth, though
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a section in the Aard wiki on gmcp in Cmud, too
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: %gmcp.char.Status.state in this case
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: yea the cmud section of aardwiki triggers on char*
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: thats too general though, so i wonder if char.Status.state works
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it does not
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: no annoyingly it doesn't
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: but you can trigger off char.status and check for the state
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: just can't go deeper than 2 levels :/
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, char.status.state isn't ever sent on its own
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: even if only your state changes out of all the fields in char.status, the mud sends the whole thing (for now)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you tried watching Inception? You have to go deeper :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ahh i see triggering off char.status works
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ok thats good enough for me, thanks guys :)
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's what she said!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: thats what she said
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: time to rework the regen ring said
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: dammit
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: beat me to it you bastard :-p
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: doh, regen ring script
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hahaha
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, while you sulk, you can go buy us some sodas
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: anyone know how i can triggger off rooms in gmcp for cmud?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #trigger {room.info} {whatever you want to do} "" {gmcp}
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why do you wanna do that, though?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: for updating the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in that case, don't use the trigger, use an onRoomEnter event
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper will already grab info from gmcp
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: oooh
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it would be nice if cmud automatically did that
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: true, Abe, but if you need to change that info it won't automatically update it for you. You've got to issue a #look or use one of the %room functions
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: do i have to tellhe mapper specifically to use gmcp?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akuri, it does
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: or does it already do that, i just installed cmud 3.33
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I believe it should be set by default, or at least Aard's sending the request during negotiation.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you do the mapper wizard to set it up, and have gmcp turned on, it'll use gmcp
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ahh ok great thanks
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ah ok
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: in cmud say i have a variable with a key=123 and val=abc, how would i add another instance of key=123 where val=def?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: cause #ADDKEY replaces the val abc with def
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i'd like it to come up abc|def. i know how to do it in one command, but not adding on to an already created variable
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: #ADDITEM var.key val
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you want to nest keys, just reference the var.key you want to insert into. If you want to have two keys on the same level with two different values...well, you can't.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: anyone on that might be able to help me with a website issue?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude raises his hand.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: i am having an issue createing a website....
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are you using software?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: 1 i really don't know what i am doing... and 2 well... it doesn't look the same in IE as it does in FireFox... colors are differant
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: i got a book on "HTML" and am using "notepad" as it told me to
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah. is this for a class? if not use a free creation program
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: start with index.htm ,
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: set your BG color and your FG colors... get some nice A HREF's going on
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: load an xbm image, or a .jpeg if you care about bandwidth
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and then add some and and you're good to go
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: no, not for a class... i am 36... trying to create a site for myself... i bake cookies
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i eat cookies!
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in fact today i obtained my order of girl scout cookies finally
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: website is www.totallycookiesandcakes.com
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and well, they're mostly gone
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sirensong, your simplest, least headache ridden thing would be to take a program, get the site you want, and then later learn html and XTML and applets...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: by tinkering around, while looking at your book.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: work first, play later.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that being said, what's the specific problem ^_^ im bored
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: if you look at the site....
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: in IE the buttons are differant color than they are in FireFox...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: that is one issue
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: and its the same exact code... same bgcolor="#CCCCCC"
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: and same fgcolor=
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: fgcolor="#CCCCFF:
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you can specify settings per browser too
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: you mean it does not go accross the board as default? like the colors?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: the other issue is i have no clue how to make it exciting and make people want to go to the site and stuff... but that is WAY down the road i am sure
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: just put tags that the search engines will like
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: like the "keywords"?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: i have done that...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: and that is the other issue i am having...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: when i type in the search bar or what ever... and type "totally cookies and cakes" it takes me to the "whois" page... not my webpage
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirensSong Tech: but any ideas on how to fix the color thing? or make the site look better than just text?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: I have an Error ... Tmer function 'display_timer" not found or had a previous error ???
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: What is this RED ERROR Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StealthShade Tech: What is this RED ERROR Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Careless Whisper Tech: -board
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone here who can help me with the following error message?
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: Run-time error Plugin: StatMonitor (called from world: Aardwolf) Immediate execution database is locked stack traceback: [C]: in function 'nrows' ...USHclientr340\MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\lua\sqlitedb.lua:45: in function 'checkfortable' [string "Plugin"]:388: in function 'formatquest' [string "Timer: "]:1: in main chunk
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i get that when i complete a quest or when I do a level
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: I installed the bast plugins to the aard mushversion today
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: and first it worked fine
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, that'll teach you to level...
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Just restart Mush.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: then i went idling, linkdead, and when i relogged this happened
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: close the application and reopen it.
T3/r3/2011-02-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: will try
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: somehow my stat window keeps freezing
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: everyhting works fine now, but the stat window
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: tried to reinstall it, and then it updated.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: uping reinstalling, but not parallel to ingame progress.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: anyone help me with getting a bigmap window in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i think there's a bast plugin for it, isnt there/
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: bast plugin?? hmm
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: nvm, its missing some telnet_options.lua file
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: does anyone use mud client on ipad?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: same as iphone
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: yeah oops.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: its all good
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: im still learning etiquttee.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: and spelling
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone here who is familiar with bast's plugins?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: anyone here use tt++
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fat Ass Cartman raises his hand.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zador Tech: anyone here knows c++ or c
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts raises Fat Ass Cartman's hand.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: once knew c, since forgotten it, really
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zador Tech: aww... how sad
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: do you know if htere is a way to get a gui for TT++ at least for scripting purposes
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: happens with age, you know
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: tt++ is command line interface, there is no gui.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: for scripting if you want a nice interface, write in a text editor and then use #read or #class to bring the code into tt
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you could create yourself a gui, in theory
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not trivial though
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: there was someone working on it at on point, writting a gui in tk I think... was a link to it a while back on the tt++ forum... not sure if the tt++ part of it has been upgraded though
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i had started to adapt some earlier work i did with zmud to work on any telnet based client, but work got in the way
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and an attack of the i can't be arseds
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone has a clue why my stat window (Bast's version) doesn't update, but only when reinstalling it?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: everything else is working fine, like qreport upon completing, or level report when leveling
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyonar Tech: Hi I'm having a problem using the Aardwolf client, I cant seem to see my chat bar, so I cannot see what I'm typing, any suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you are probably running at a low screen resolution. i would try toggling maximizing the MUSH window a couple times first
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you may have accidentally dragged the top of the input bar down to minimize it
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyonar Tech: well I cant seem to maximize the client, well it's already maximized but I cant seem to minimize it now, and my resolution should be set at 1024 x w/e I thin
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyonar Tech: sorry for my sloppy typing I just cant see what i'm typing lol
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: i understand that it is probably already maximized, but i am suggesting you click the maximize button a couple of times.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyonar Tech: that's the problem, I dont have a maximize button anymore, nor a close button. the bar with file edit view etc is gone
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: rightclick it on taskbar
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyonar Tech: I do and nothing pops up, I get no options right clicking it on my task bar
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: you might want to consider upping your desktop resolution anyways. 1024x768 was a standard a bit over a decade ago ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyonar Tech: well my video card is over a decade old so I cant up the resolution any farther, I know I need a new one, but for a mud it shouldnt be a issue, regaradless I will just get rid of this client and use a different one, thanks anyways
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: I am really not sure what else to suggest, however, switching my resolution that low, i can recreate your issue and toggling maximize forces the bottom of the window back onto the screen
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: anybody experiencing MASSIVE lag/freezes when using mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no i don't
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: very smooth for me
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: when it starts yes, if it's loading lots of plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: ive never had problems on other client though... but the last three days with my recent lag... was unplayable. my client just freezes for about 2-3 minutes... and then spams everything that happened in the meantime. after that i have about 20 secs of normal latency. then it freezes again...
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: diesalot, try downloading a fresh version into another folder and using that one without adding any plugins beyond what it ships with
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: any version recommended for linux?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: ubuntu
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you still experience the lag spikes, then there's probably a network issue unrelated to client. If everything works smoothly, then you can go through turning on/off plugins to see which is causing the issue
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: yeh 10.04
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: run it in a vm
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: and its called flavor
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant just a fresh version of the aardmush, not a different client altogether
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: I'm trying to run a mySQL server, but once I try to execute my configured settings I get the following error: If a personal firewall is running on your machine, please make sure you have opened the TCP port 3306 for connections. Any idea how I do this?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on sunday the 20th, my connection to aard was doing the same thing, so I connected to one of my other shell accounts and ran my tf there without any problems
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not an error, just a message
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and how to do it would depend on what firewall you're using
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Well, it won't finish executing my settings, then. And I'm using windows firewall
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: windows 7..
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: add an exception in the windows firewall
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: To allow a program?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: or how do I do that, even?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: control panels, windows firewall
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: then Allowed Programs?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd click advanced settings, make a new port rule
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Makes sense. How do I do that?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click advanced, click inbount rules, click new rule
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of this should be available on mysql's site
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Hmm I'll go check it out. Thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: nop lag still persists on fresh version with no plugins :/
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's a network issue, dies
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: atleast my q timer counts down in threes and fours :P
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zador Tech: from where could I download LEGAL plugins?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zador, the aard mushclient ships with a ton, then finger bast and download his v6 folder
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are there any illegal ones?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that takes care of probably 95% of desired plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes farky
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: have they been arrested for speeding?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, just nuked
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Dies - try running 'mtr aardmud.org'
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, nuclear weaponry plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: beyond the bundled ones and bast's, check out the comli site listed in help www, and I have a couple tiny ones at the bottom of my tinyfugue script page
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: gah
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that a new TLA?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: grr no joy... anyone got a nice site where i can check my line speed and its consistency?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: like pingtest.net?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the problem is that line speed and consistency are only between your location and the site hosting the test
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can be perfectly fine to 99.9999% of the Internet, but have a flaky route to one site
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's why I suggested running mtr - it's a constant traceroute program for linux that can be helpful
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, traceroutes and pathpings are helpful for seeing which providers you're traversing and where the holdups are...since it's intermittant, it's probably that a link somewhere is "flapping", going up and down...when it goes down, it takes a bit for the other end to realize it, and once your side realizes it, it will reroute the packets through an alternate route...that's when you see the burst of traffic...then if it goes back up, it's likely a preferred route, so it'll reroute again to use it
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better providers are set up such that when they see flapping, they'll downgrade it from preferred route so that it'll just keep with the alternate route until someone can look into the flapping issue
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: 70% packet loss on 100 sent
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: How many hops from you?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: 21
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's where the losses are happening? Then yeah, you're pretty much SOL...
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If the hops were closer (say, in your local network) you could possibly track down the issue a bit better...
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: Hiya, at one point in time I had a plugin for mush that would let me get items in a specific level range out of a bag. I seem to have lost that when I updated clients for some reason. Anyone know where I could find another copy of it?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Legend of Venomangel peers around himself intently.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: Anyone know where I can find a copy of the plugin that allows you to grab a level range of items from a bag?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the address for Madcatz's container sort plugin, which includes a level-based get/put
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: Ahh, thanks much!
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tei Tech: does anyone know if there is a tick timer with the MUCHclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tei Tech: err, mush
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it comes included in aardmush, but turned off by default
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tei Tech: err, mush
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tei Tech: how do i turn it on?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And if you turn it on, you might want to change the timer from updating every two seconds to every one second, too.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually iirc fiendish changed it so that it is enabled by default, so you should already see the tick timer at the bottom of your screen
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's in the very bottom of the window
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tei Tech: LOL thanks, i r teh oblivious
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: any linux pros around?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yo
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: call me tuxodotus
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: how do i reinstall spesific driver in ubuntu 10.04
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: what kind of device and is the driver open or proprietary?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah thats very specific to the driver
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: if you can let us know the device and version ill take a look see
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: wanna reinstall lan drivers to see if it helps with packet loss... sorry client just started responding again... bad ass lag still
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: going to need to see what manufacturer/model the NIC is
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i.e. your network adapter
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: any command to see that in terminal? or should i just check motherboard? its onboard
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: if its onboard then go to the motherboard manufacturers web site and search for drivers
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dmesg will have info for that
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: however it is MUCH more likely that you have a faulty cable/switch/router than a bad driver
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and my money would be on the cable with 10-1 odds
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: or the plug, one of the pins might be bent in a bit not making contact as it should
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try lspci
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: tried 4 dif cables.. one of which i just made now. and all other pcs on network has no packet loss sending to the router.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: check the plug, worst troubleshooting nightmare of my life turned out to be the plug had a pin bent like i said
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the packet loss to your router, or going out to aard?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and let us know if you have luck finding drivers from the motherboard manufac.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: mtr router ip, mtr google.com mtr another pc on network mtr aardwolf... same crap
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at Diesalot.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: busy checking on sloooooow ass connection :/
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so its your host or between your host and the router
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you dont have same issues with other boxes through that router correct?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: no other problems
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its just unheard of for a nic driver to cause such a problem
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best buy, $5 nic
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: this always been a problem for the machine or did it just start happening
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it's not unusual for a nic to go bad, though
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at you in agreement.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Did you try switching what port you were plugging into on the router/switch end?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ports go bad, too
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, try a different switchport
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: yep that was the first thing i tried... tried all 8 ports
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: found the problem... it seems all i needed... was to remove the active flag from the non windows partition
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ugh, emerge -u world apparently also ate my tf 5 install
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude needs to stop logging in as root.
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone use code.google.com? I'd like to upload images for use in my wiki. Any idea how to do this?
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xaxz, to display images in a google code wiki page, you just put the URL to the image
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to the source tab, there's a "repository" drop-down...default is the project source code itself, but the other option there is "wiki"...just upload the graphics files into the wiki's repository
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 3d porn is finally available on tv - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/01/3d_tv_channel/
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: when I try to use the mapper goto function to goto the first room of wildwood (321) its going to where antharia used to be
T3/r3/2011-03-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: do I need to purge the continent map, or the antharia map?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ermmm.. im pfutzing with a few things in mush and i tried using the immediate run deal (ctrl-i) and pasting something from the mush website (it creats a blank miniwindow as an example) and now i cant get it to go away. i've tried closing and reopening the immediate run thing, deleting the information there, but the miniwindow still stays.. how can i get rid of this?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Is there a way to name a portion of a regexp in a trigger match and call it in the script in LUA for MUSHClient?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nevermind
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's the recommend mushclient version for Aard? The one downloadable from Aard website? I have heard something about Bast's version...
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I like bast's miniwin framework more, but unless you are going to mess with scripts, that won't make difference to you.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: OK. Second question, how do you organize speedwalks? Do you just stuff them all into aliases? Create some script?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I stuff them into aliases in a plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Does anyone use version 4.61 of MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or any other one more recent than the one offered on Aardwolf web page?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: 4.71
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Umm, I thought 4.61 is the latest one?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I have no idea, I just looked at about box
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/showrelnote.php?productid=0 - it goes up to 4.72
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one on aard's page is 4.72 already
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Actually, yeah, 4.72. Sorry for the confusion.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'm pretty new to MUSHclient myself.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If two different plugins are looking for MUD tags and one of them is set "omit from output," will the other still be able to trigger off it?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: In MUSHClient
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Awesome, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best to have one look at the tags and broadcast the info to the others, though
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: anyone know what would cause winlogon to consume an entire processor? task manager spikes CPU usage spiking, and seems to be preventing me from RDPing to the computer at all (connects, displays screen, hangs, disconnects).. i haven't really done anything lately that would point to a possible cause (no downloads, not even much internet usage besides aard) and this is new today
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How do I reference variables in MUSHclient aliases? What sigil do they need?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've seen and, I think, $.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: @variablename, and then check the box that says expand variables
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Neither seems to work when the aliases are defined in a script.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nope its and you need to check 'expand variables'
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: sorry its @
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ahhhh! It works.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: By the way, how do you people organize speedwalks? Let 'em clutter your aliases? Export them into a script?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Personally, I made a script that lets you edit them from the command line and just stores them in a table. But before that, yeah, just used an alias for each.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Table? Like.. the script XML?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well nods, but made a plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: so it has scripts + aliases all in one
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can give them all the same group name, so if you do decide to do something with them later, it'll be easier.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And why this is better than just aliases?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I can do, for example, "sw add Entrance to Hades, wear amulet;enter;run 4n3e", or whatever
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And then do 'myrun hades' later, and it'll take me there
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ah, so easy configuring.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nice, I think I will borrow that idea
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmm. Can you synchronize variables between script and the variable editor GUI?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the SetVariable() and GetVariable() functions will allow you to access MUSHclient variables from within a script
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In my script I just have the definitions. Do I stick Lua code into the alias?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You generally have a like that says something like: script="someFunction"
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And then later on, define someFunction
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Convoluted, but powerful, I guess.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or if it's just a simple alias, you can use: send="run 4n" and sendto=
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and it'll send it straight to Aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (this is all just off the top of my head, might want to actually check the helpfiles and such)
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Easiest way might just be to find a simple plugin from somewhere and take a look at it.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra nods at Leinei.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Will do.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Two more questions. Is there a way to quickly clear the input field, like Unix ctrl-u?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is there a better way to search through past commands than ctrl-h? Kinda like bash's ctrl-r
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I hit shift+home, then delete, but might be a quicker way
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ctrl-backspace (which usually clears such fields), does something altogether weird.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Game -> Configure -> Commands; Click Keyboard Preferences; Check "Escape clears typing"
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oooo! In the same place, also tick alt+arrow recalls
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Works superbly!
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme blushes as Cizra gives him hawt smoochins!
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme chuckles politely.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how would i get my quest/cp/gq miniwins on top of the status bar/score/etc miniwins? i can't read more than an inch on the right hand side of those miniwins...
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: also, the xBroadcast_SpellSkills plugin gives me the error "Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error." a LOT
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: was wondering if anyone could help me fix that so i can have a spellup plugin...
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It had a previous error. What the previous error was is the important part
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: lemme check real quick
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: ok, i have the error, what should i be looking for in it to help you?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is there a way to multiply a command in MUSHclient? Like #3 gulp fountain
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: #for (i=0;i < 3;i++) Send("gulp") - exact syntax depends on your scripting language
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've got a script which does it, I'll see if I can find out where I got it from
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it should be possible to make it into alias named #* (and change your scripting prefix to something else)
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The MUSHclient prompt won't eat #for
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: maybe the default script prefix isn't #? I don't remember. Look under the scritps configuration tab
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Think it's usually / but I might be wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But nods, should be a fairly simply alias to make
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've found something similar on the mushclient site, http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/showbug.php?bugid=233&productid=0&searchfor=
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude screams YAY SHA-256 you rock!
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone work with SQLite in MUSHClient?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: only with sqlite
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can you see any reason why this wouldn't work as far as the SQLite part? The DatabaseOpen and DatabaseExec functions are copied directly from MUSHClient documentation. http://pastebin.com/zTbEU8ib
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: On my main window on MUSH, whenever I move rooms, I get the minimap displayed there. How do I remove it?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: Just upgraded to 4.72 w/ GMCP
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: type automap?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pwince Escobar falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: tags map on
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: Thanks. I'm such a noob :)
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: automap did it. Thanks again <3
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Isshin Tech: its okay,we still love you
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that will make it so the automap window doesn't get updated
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well that turned it off completely. If you want the miniwin to capture it, you need the tags
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: your last column has an extra ,
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if that helps
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That could very well be the problem, thanks Winkle
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the "align TEXT, "
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tell me if it helps
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: Hi, sorry bug again, another question.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: After every runto/combat... I'm getting {spellheaders affected noprompt} showing up.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: Anyone know wtf this is/how to remove it?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pwince Escobar Tech: I'd ask Bast but he ain't been on in forever. :(
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: how would i get my quest/cp/gq miniwins on top of the status bar/score/etc miniwins? i can't read more than an inch on the right hand side of those miniwins...
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i have download some .iso but in in pieces. .iso.001, .iso.002 etc. how do i combine them together? using winrar and extract?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: downloaded*
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: .001 sound like spanned zip files?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but winrara should handle those too
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ok ty
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i try
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What's this mean? --> wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Mono is the open source implementation of the .NET framework
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: just google it and download it
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: K, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what is the actual ip for the mud?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "ping aardmud.org"
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or even "help ip"
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Abelinc, there is no route to host
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) you don't need a route to get the IP, (2) you're getting routed...
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm getting routed?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're sitting in the dallas datacenter, yes, you're getting routed here
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok. i don't think i'm in a dallas datacenter. is ... that where the mud is ?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telepathic tech channel isn't implemented yet
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i'd rather have a telepathic gsoc anyways
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi, how can I see in ubuntu my files in one partition?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ls -R /path/to/mount/point
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: in zmud mapper, is there any general reason why the map is not updating my position when i move?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not programmed properly to recognize the rname tag
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: generally it means either you changed your prompt and now ZMud cannot find/recognize it or your config is incorrect.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: zmud: can't I reference an item in a db (@rec.key) type variable by it's position somehow? I know for normal string lists it's @rec.##
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: stringlists are divided literally by the pipe symbol. Datarecords are divided by unprintable characters.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: have you tried it, by the way? Or tried using %item()
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: that returns nothing. I could go through the whole list with a forall but I need specific access without knowing what is actually there
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #loopdb has %key and %val.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: oh hmm I forgot about that. I'll read up on it again
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: ok so I didn't find a (direct/native) way to pull db items by their location but a simple loop and counter will serve the purpose
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: thank you for your help
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why do you need to look up a key's value by position, anyways?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: because I dynamically stored something and I want to get at it without actually knowing what it is
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: THen how do you know when you've got it?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude gives habasi a box with a cat inside that is both dead and alive.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O ( ) Habasi snickers with VampireDude about their shared secret.
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: I don't need to know what it is, just where it is. honestly I only need the last position. but if I sorted a db by something arbitrary it'd be nice to ask what is at/above/below a specific threshold
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what are you storing?
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: eq IDs and their score
T3/r3/2011-03-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: but if I write it properly the first time I can apply it to anything
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arista Tech: Anyone using Madcatz container sort plugin? I tried installing it, but when I use a command on it.. all it does is return the invdata of the inventory, but doesn't do anything else.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what is mobileme?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i tried to load some aard related website at homepage.mac.com/mikeride
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and it gives me an error message in english and german about mobileme
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mebbe i typed it wrongly
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah yep no tilde nevermind
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh thats lame... the scripts on that site have auto quaff for mush but not for tf
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Generally this channel is reserved for tech related questions / discussions
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can you have multiple WHERE expressions in a SELECT query? (SQLite)
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: you can use the AND operator to string together seperate expressions. select * from FOO_TABLE WHERE FOO1_COLUMN = 'bar' AND FOO2_COLUMN >= 50 AND... etc etc
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: that should do it unless i'm not understanding your issue
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes, that's what I wanted. I wasn't sure if AND could be used or not
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: how to enable/disable a set of triggers but not all of them in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: enabletriggergroup iirc
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I'll test that, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i'm having a bit of a problem with the gmcp mapper opening. this started after i tried to create a new world that was based on the aardwolf.mcl file. i deleted the new world, and now when i connect to the aardwolf.mcl world, the mapper gives an error. the error shows itself more usefully as the miniwindow that the mapper would usually show in, but it instead of having the mapper, it has the standard box without the map. it says that it's customized for aardwolf (the program itself im assuming) but the world file name is not the same as the .mcl file that i have open
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: any suggestions on how to fix this? :/
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hey
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: gah
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: any clue how to get either bast_spellup or Aardwolf_Spellups_mw_Bast working ?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: what MUSH plugin could gag output from main window ?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: err, my output*, I mean, commands
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You just don't want you commands to show up in the main window?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: configuration, input, uncheck "echo my input in"
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: opposite. I want and have the option ticked in mush prefs, but they don't appear there
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan goes, "Ohhh, that makes sense now!"
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: in that case, any of them. Try to disable them one by one
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is it doing it all the time or just sometimes?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: all the time
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: When you connect to the mud, do you know if it echoes your name when you enter it?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The mud sends a "echo off" command when it prompts you for your password. It's possible it might just be missing the "echo on" message after that.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it doesnt
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, then that's probably not it
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sure you don't just have your commands set to echo in black on black? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: sure :)
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: already tried changing custom colors
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: woot, found 10 plugins that can be responsible for it :) will narrow it down from here, thanks )
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ANSI_Log was the faulty one
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: That part of the Aardwolf MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I guess if I dig it there could be an option to not omit commands, but easier just to turn it off
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Eww, visual basic :P
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Little Alhena Tech: Just as general info, it's possible to run ZMud on windows 7 - Have to run it as administrator instead of standard user (ZMud 7.21 vs W7Pro), unlike what zuggsoft forums say
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: hi... bast? how do i make the plugins work again? had to reinstall aard... gane me a bunch of errors
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea i couldnt get half of them to work right
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: none of the miniwindow plugins works for me
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Might help if you tell *what* the errors were
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since they work for most people
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: there weren't errors, the miniwindows just never opened
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: lol it was pages full i didnt read it
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you know, since you didn't read the errors and you can't tell me what the problem really is, I can't help you. There is more than enough documentation on my website to get everything working and installed.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i meant what my prompts must be? i restarted everything... i couldnt even open aard because of the errors
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if they worked before, you have the correct prompt, I don't know why they didn't install, Why did you reinstall everything?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: it was a bunch of errors about cant load plugins or somethings
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i couldnt play or open aard
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: do i just need v6 or are there v5 plugins that arent in v6?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you just need v6
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: okay thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know a good ntp server?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: pool.ntp.org
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Or, preferably, your ISP's.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh, my isp doesnt know what theirs is
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ntp.isp.com?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah lemme try that
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: name or service not known
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: how do i get that invitem and invmon thing to stop showing?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rotsisnart Nocilis Tech: type invmon
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rotsisnart Nocilis Tech: did that get both of them?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: not sure ill check now
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: hitting an issue after upgrading mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: how do u setting up Stats Monitor
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: if a script sends a command the resultant output might appear on same line as my prompt
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: how do u setting up spells
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Put a %c at the end of your prompt, Vuron
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: thanks, I will try that
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: how do u setting up spells in mushclint
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you using a spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then what are you trying to set up? You can use the in-game 'spellup' command if you're not using a plugin for it.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: i need help with setting up spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which one are you using?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: thanks Leinei, that is a better workaround than turning off my prompt :)
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you haven't downloaded a spellup plugin to use with MUSHclient, then you don't have a spellup plugin. There are a few different ones you can use, or you can just use the in-game spellup command.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei tells Vuron he's very welcome.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: For future reference, if anyone is using my v6 spellup plugin and needs to add a %c at the end of their prompt, then they can do "plugins load fix" and then wait a couple of seconds and do "fix prompt" and it will automatically add a %c to both their regular prompt and battle prompt if they don't have one
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: where is spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "finger bast" for the website
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: where is spellup plugin in mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: where is spellup plugin in mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: type tech -h
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nickolas Tech: where is spellup plugin different in mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: how do i see what abilities i forgot?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forgetsk
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone familiar with creating batch files to register, and unregister a program that you've created? And when I say program, I'm not referring to one large in scale.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean register as a service?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ummm not sure, just so it shows up in the registry keys
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which registry keys?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone else has the problem with bast's ministatwindow that it lags the whole mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satine Tech: what can i do to avoid the help pop up when i push f1? i want to put a macro there :(
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what client?
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satine Tech: mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in CMud, you can uncheck the F1 opens Help option.
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satine Tech: i downloaded it from the aarworlf web
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Levlin Tech: hmm sry i havent used mushclient since cmud released, i can't even remember if that's possible :(
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satine Tech: thank you anyways :D
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: File -> Global Preferences; General Tab; check F1/F6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satine Tech: thank you!
T3/r3/2011-03-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Satine Tech: claire d
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: does anyone use the aardwolf inventory miniwindow deal found here: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?action=quote&bbpost_id=61236&page=3
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ideally, it is supposed to put your inventory in a tabbed miniwindow
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i have it installed and all the support files (afk detector, playing detector, telnet options lua file) and all went well but there is no miniwindow
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Bleh
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone know how to disconnect a #COM service in CMUD once it is active?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone know how to disconnect a COM connection in cMUD?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, using {roomchars} followed by a "consider all" to capture mob short/long names. The two tables must contain same number of entries to store it and players being in the room breaks this. Any ideas on a workaround?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: theres something I use, forgot what tho
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: difference between a player and a mob if I remember correctly
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: so It skips the player
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: h
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'd be grateful if you were able to check what you use to filter
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: lemme see if I still have the code that does it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, I wonder if " is here." is allowed for mob long_name?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Rats... could have been a workaround.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can use colorset to do players and mobs in different colors within {roomchars}
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Depending on if you client can only match on some colors, might be able to use that
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, well, my trigger is a MUSHClient plugin.. I wonder if I can modify that...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahh, I see. Thanks Leinei.. that's a good idea
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, what do I need to add to the end of [\w\s]* to match any set of words and spaces EXCEPT if it ends in "is here"
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you may want to use lookahead/look behind.. but i'm a little squiffy on how those work
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's been a while since i've used those
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: [\w\s]*[^(is here.)]
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Er, without the period
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, or with it escaped, if you're wanting it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, actually, I see what you're trying to do now. That won't work.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. i'd like to see a working example fo thsi too. To refresh in my mind how you do this.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, really? My Regex Tester confirmed [\w\s]*[^(is here\.)] will not match on "So and so is here."
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Huh, I would think it would.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: [^[\w\s]*is here\.]
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is what I would do.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Er, actually, no
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh, no.. I don't want to match if the line ends in "is here."
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: doesn't the [] mean any characters in this set?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it does
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which is why I'm wrong :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: [^([\w\s]*is here\.)]
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: maybe that
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the [()] solution seemed more like it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes, but putting () around the characters means any set of characters in this order
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ^(.*?)is here\.$
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as it might treat the group as a "character"
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think my last thing will work
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: but it will capture 'is here' too
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: mine wont :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Grr, you guys are confusing yourself. I want to match a line in {roomchars} that does NOT end in "is here."
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's what mine does
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: guess what? Some mob descs DO end in that phrase...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: helps not to get annoyed at the people who are trying to help you, xaxz.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it annoyed the crap out of me.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: xaxz is doing alrgiht
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Mine says: don't match (any combinations of words and spaces followed by "is here")
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I ended up just matching on the colors and using colorset to ensure that player lines and mob lines don't start with the same color.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm not annoyed, I want to avoid people answering a question I didn't ask. It's counter-productive for everyone. lol
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes. i think Leinei's first example is the best so far
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: by default, they do.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Er, my last one, not my first :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Leinei person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My first one will match any line, I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the last one would match character in any order that are in the [] wouldn't it? That could lead to false positives
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, Dokkar, I tried to compile using a match_style matching on yellow (after I colorset players to green) but when I loaded my script, it said it didn't use the trigger option
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's only one character in the []
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The thing inside the parentheses
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe i missed your last one :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Lemme see...I'll test it myself and see.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: My current match is: ^(\([\w\s]+\)\s*)*[\!\.\w\s\-\(\),']*$ which will match JUST about any mob/player (unless they just have a ton of crazy characters in their title)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: And it will allow for auras
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't use Mush, I use CMud. I only know that using regex or some other text-only matching option is going to fail because of those annoying rare situations where standing player (%w is here.) desc is identical to mob desc (%w blah blah blah is here.)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're just turning it on for {roomchars}, Xaxz, then .* will match every mob and player.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and then just turn it off at {/roomchars}
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: !!!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That will capture auras. Though I suppose I could simplify the part after that... hmmm
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So you're wanting to capture the long desc of mobs?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Right
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I just need to figure out if the match_style triggeroption will compile.. maybe I had the wrong hex...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he's more likely wanting to get a list of mob shorts, derived from the longs that appear automatically instead of having to issue scan or consider every move
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (.*\))\s+.*
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: .* in that line is the long desc of mobs
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: er, forgot one character
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (.*\))*\s+.*
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the second .*, I mean
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Might not want to make those all greedy.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: don't need that + there, either...not sure where that came from
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: As long as the mob doesn't have ) in its long desc, it should be fine
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: But some do.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Exactly
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then unless you specify every aura, how do you suppose you're going to differentiate between an aura and (blah blah) within the mob's desc?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you see: (Red Aura) (Diseased) (Undead) Monster is here.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's no way to tell if (Undead) is an aura or is part of the long desc.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I believe I simply defined the possible beginning and ending characters (or lack thereof) in the trigger pattern. If an alpha starts the line, there are no auras.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: (\([\w\s]+\)\s*)* will ignore auras
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: INCLUDING the nasty super-spaced (ANGRY) part
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: where does that occur? Because I don't see any extra spacing with that flag.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "OK".
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then just stick .* at the end of that to match the rest?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There used to be at one point. Don't remember if it was with shortflags on or off, or if it got corrected (I think it might of)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei frowns sadly, looks around and goes 'meh..'
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: might have*
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But yeah, if you're not wanting to match the "is here" stuff, then [^[\w\s]*is here\.] will do, I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it wont, Leinei
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oops, wrong one
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: [^([\w\s]*is here\.)]
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's the one I meant
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No.. that won't match anything..
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I guess nobody heard me when I said some mob descs end with "is here."?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I did :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I did Dokkar... I've already moved to a different solution. However, the proper regexp for my question would have been ^(\([\w\s]+\)\s*)*.*(?!is here)$
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: just checking, cause it seemed a lot of effort was going into something that was going to fail and need fixing anyways.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes, you were right. The discussion about the proper regex to not include something just continued after.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, mine didn't work because you can't use (most) metacharacters inside brackets.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh, for those curious, .* to capture the long_desc but use the negative lookbehind for "is here" won't work because it's too greedy. I used [\!\.\w\s\-\(\),']* instead
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your mom is too greedy
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: LOL
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xaxz could you specifically blacklist the glob of 'is here.'
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh, I don't want to anymore.. because some mobs have that in their long_desc
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Was more for educational purposes at this point
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't see how .* is any more greedy than [\!\.\w\s\-\(\),']*
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: . matches anything
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: .* matches anything, including nothing
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yes, but [\!\.\w\s\-\(\),']* will also match: The big, green monster is here.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: All of it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just like.* does
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: .*
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if it works, it works, but you shouldn't be using huge complex pattern matching if a simple one will do the job
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Correct... however .* will grab the "is here" while adding a negative lookbehind for "is here" at the end of the other will NOT match the line.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can't you match the is here wihtou a negative look behind?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: .*? is non-greedy version... You want to match "(monster name) is here."?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I thought you were using negative look-aheads...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: lol, no. And the conversation is starting over again with new players. I'm tapping out. Sorry.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: negative lookahead doesn't work :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Right
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which was my point :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: negative lookbehind does! :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But I never saw any negative lookbehind in this whole conversation yet :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ^(.*) is here.$ doesn't work?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Farkyss, that wasn't the idea.. it was to AVOID lines with "is here"
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Farkyss, we're trying to capture all except lines containing 'is here' :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Leinei, negative lookahead does work too btw, just need to add .* after lookahead
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If your first part of the regex matches "is here" and is greedy, then I don't see how that would help
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: wow the words look like english .....
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it doesn't matter if it's greedy or lazy
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ^(?!.*is here)(.*)$ works, we need to place capturing groups after lookahead
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: that way it works
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just for interest, what purpose does the capturing group after the lookahead serve?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: capture all the line
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That matches "It is here", does it not, Anadorr?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: it doesn't
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: negative lookahead finds a match and doesn't allow regex to match at this point
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I missed the .* in the lookahead
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there needs to be a regex channel :D
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But that wouldn't match, say, "It is here and is big", would it?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: no it wouldn't, need to add extra $ to a lookahead after 'here'
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Ah, nods
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: OK, I'm satisfied now :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is anyone around who knows how to disconnect from an active COM connection in cmud?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: set to nil, I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: i can try that.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's a good question, though, there doesn't appear to be any examples or mention of destroying them in the helpfile.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I know thats why I was asking
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Everytime i want to update my COM object i have to close cmud
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: did you try checking the website support pages? Some things didn't really change from how they worked in ZMud, except for obvious changes like using "cmud" in all places where "zmud" was used. Helpfiles for those would still be in the zmud sections (and might only be kept there).
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nah i'll do that.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: hackers believe that they build stuff, and they also believe that crackers break stuff and think its cool. True or false? (please warn me if the conversation im starting wether successfull or not is somehow illegal)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Approximately... In practice it turns out that the public calls crackers hackers.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes..and hackers are apparently irratated by this
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Well, the gp believes a lot of stupid junk.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hence the clarifying term "white hat"
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: aha see!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Yes, cracking is not unlike 'safe-cracking'.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: because a judge, in a courtroom, would say oh he's wearing a white hat, let's not hang him
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Endless flamewar...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he's wearing a white hat, he won't be in a courtroom
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, what if a crook steals his white hat, and wears it, pretending to be a white hat
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: lol, so they take on a rascist connotation? No wonder they're irritated.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar its tied to movies set in the american wild west...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cowboys in the movies that were the heros or protagonists would wear a white hat... and the evil guys would wear black hats
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think he's talking about the cracker, not the white hat, but not positive
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that way you could always tell who to cheer for
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even still, white head-coverings never boded well for someone in America.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar john f kennedy wore a white hat
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and look what happened to him!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that didtn happen to him in all of america though, just in texas
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: on the tv series dukes of hazard, a villain wore a white hat.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: whitehats in the south lead to lynchings. whitehats in the west lead to indian wars.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: coincidence? i think not...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: death to whitehats
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: But...but...what about the greyhats????
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're dirty
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in Toronto, some black street-corner preachers wear white head-coverings, peddling islam or jesus or some crap
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xyliz islam and jesus don't really get along too well .
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: hackers believe that a certain code or inclination of thinking...supposibly suggesting an idea communial proffessionalism out and away from the spot light of authority and publicity
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Yeah, it's not like he's a prophet according to Islam or anything.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: they were peddling crap, was not interested
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: islam thinks that jesus was a good prophet ant teacher
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: kinjin, nope.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: what the hell is a white and a black hat
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: VampireDude, please, make sure you know what you're talking about.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: morinon, i do know what I'm talking about.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: No, you just showed your ignorance.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampfox, good guy and bad guy
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: morinon, ' if morinon disagrees, youre wrong, and ignorant'
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dread Lord Morinon pats VampireDude on his head.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: morinon disagreeing isn't what made you wrong...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: VampireDude 'If I'm wrong, I'm not wrong, other people are opinionated'
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Jesus holds no special meaning in Islam
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar agreed.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but he gets a nice role later on in slaying infidels and an antichrist ^_^
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he's just another prophet in Judaism, but not the messiah like the Christies believe.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar but that's judaism, judaism is not islam.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: In islam, he's considered to be a prophet.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: morinon if you're so certain, which kind of prophet in islam.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: How is any of this tech-worthy? Religion should be in the debate channel, eh.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Of the same kind, but lesser importance, as Mohammed.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: being mentioned in the koran and being considered messenger of god to islam isn't exactly islam having a problem with jesus...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredibly Flat Tech: I agree with Mitsunari. off of tech plz
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: anyway does this way of thinking make hackers different from crackers among other things?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i never said there was a problem between jesus and islam, i said they don't get along very well lately
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Quiet Nuala cowers in a corner and whimpers softly.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampfox, like all terms, it depends on whose definition you're looking to use
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: hackers believe that they are to figure out problems in the computing world in areas of the world wide web and software. Now is it true that there is some sort of "suit" or idea of the hacker that helps him to excel in programming?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: o.O
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Randor peers around himself intently.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: and sell parts of their creative ideas to allow them to survive and yet still give away much of their ideas to the help of other hackers
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: The word hacker goes back much further than the www.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it has nothing to do with www and software...it's pretty much anything technology-related
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grizzler, like lizzie borden?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: hacker is really a slang term for computer programmer, someone who goes and hacks on a code
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i know something to do with "aarp" something something
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hacker is a term for anyone who can hack with anything, doesnt have to be computer
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: if you mean people who go and break into other computers, then your statement doesn't make much sense
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: aarp = american association of retired people
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: herodotus so macgyver, would be a hacker?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: vampfox Are you writing some kind of school report?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolutely
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah definitely
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hes like THE hacker lol
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so does it compare to a 'tinkerer' in a way?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i would even argue yogis are hackers because they metaprogram their bodies and minds
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, vampiredude
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Except that a hacker (on a computer) makes things work.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computer hackers (white hat "pure" definition) often talk about tinkering around in the code
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i think what's odd about the original question that it asks whether being a hacker implies excelling at programming, when it's more like the other way around
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: no i want to understand this thing about all you pc people...i study and study and try to program but never excel or get it fully right because ARRGH! Theres this secret with you people mark zuckerberg, bill gates...abellic! Dag! All you people!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: It takes a high degree of competence to be a hacker.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: sorry went emo there
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude comforts Vampfox.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: practice practice practice makes perfect
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't have to program a lick to be a computer hacker...just different ways to hack
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i wouldn't compare these people to hackers, more of a successful businessmen
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: and logical thinking too
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: never perfect
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: If they were perfect, then they're never be any need for hackers.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i suppose a truly amazing hacker could use a couple of magnets on sticks
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, the logical thinking is the important part
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Mark and Bill, definitely not hackers.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: the first two, that is, abelinc or dag, i don't know :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: bill gates is definitely a hacker, or at least was
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: if thats who you were referencing
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bill was a hacker...but he hired & worked with better hackers than himself
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: herodotus i'm not so sure, the film pirates of silicon valley showed him more as a harvard business man
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: He licensed away his first big tech, not hack it.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, the film showed it that way...carry on then :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh yeah? like the part where he stayed up all night writing machine code instead of partying??
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he hacked it a lot, actually
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so he didnt just buy dos and then repackage it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: not at all
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did he invent their highmem 386 thing?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he invented the blue screen of death
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: all of you do this thing where you just understand everything!? And i just program when you want and make stuff work!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: staying all night and writing machine code instead of partying makes someone a nerd; a hacker? not necessarily
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Funny how he started with a small subset of the functionality available in un*x systems.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: randor i find the easiest way to speed up that process, is to use the ' auto' command
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: funny how every breakthrough is a "rip off" of what came before it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh wait thats called technology
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: err, technology is applied science.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so is medicine
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: and i keep coming back to aardwolf searching for answers! Arrgh! Trying every different approach to get results but....i should do something what is it!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: did you try kicking it?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: good idea!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: I find taking computers swimming helps one to bond.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: you are asking serious questions (about life, etc) on a game dude. c'mon.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Perhaps a petition to ZOMGEMO channel should be made later..
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What would I need to change string.gsub(string, "%-", "%%-") to to properly escape a hyphen in a string for use in the string.find function? (MUSHClient)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: no no...these are not life questions... I want to learn how to program and make money from it and join the community of " pc people"
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah, learn SQL
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: learning SQL is a very good non-entirely essential programing skill
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: vampfox...sounds like school.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i think "wanting to make money" is a wrong approach, the successful people are usually good because they have a passion for it, money can give you only temporary drive
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: learning every single thing is a very good non-entirely essential programming skill ;-)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Randor.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus smiles at you.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: the point is, you are asking a fairly sophisticated group of GAME PLAYERS how do to something that is taught as both courses and majors in universities. This might not be your best avenue to get where you want to me mate.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't have to learn x language to program in y...gotta work out which direction you want to go in
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripting, working on Mac, PC, unix, phones/embedded, working on end-software, working on OS, database, business intelligence, utilities, drivers...you usually want to go in a particular direction
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Hello World
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: !
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: will i learn what i want to if i take computor science as my major?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: do you like math and science?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: solving complex problems?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yes...that is what programming entails
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Fortran is fun for that
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: would you describe yourself as a geek, and someone with a strong sense of critical thinking? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: describing yourself as a critical thinking frequently assures that you are not.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: not a geek...but yes i have problems with clear critical thinking
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: well, i dunno then, college can't teach you all that stuff you are totally in awe from, it can give you technical background and skills, but not really teach the thinking, more like help you find what you already had but didn't know, unless you, of course, didn't have any
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: Vdude, have you tried seraching google for "Master of the univers 101" ... some school MUST have a course in it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: \*understanding = &writecode;
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You can fill in your understanding with the process of writing code?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: It's called practice. If you don't do it, you won't get anywhere.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: yeah? Dont see that possible...wanna punch the crap outta the screen everytime i see error for the seventh time ive recorrected my code
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: that's not good attitude. Coding sometimes requires lots of patience
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: always
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dread Lord Morinon nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: It's amazing how often tough errors are some syntax error you keep glossing over. When you find it, smack!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only because syntax errors frequently manifest on a later line
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is especially true with languages that enforce line enders like the semicolon
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: not always... sometimes there are codemonkey tasks that are straightforward, they just need to be written down.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I love semicolons. The make great statements.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I love semicolons; they make great statements.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maskull... i prefer parse errors, because they are fun to parse
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: argh! It's not english.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i get pissed when i try to figure out the code of something already made such as black jack..here i am writing a list of 52 cards 7 times making my code bulking irreasonable large.. And here comes another programmer simplifying whole process by using
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: a completly different approach
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Anybody know of a good way to do memory debugging on Windows (i.e. valgrind equivalent)?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you mean like leaks and stuff?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: try programming Texas Holdem poker.. THAT is a nightmare
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yeah, detecting leaks and illegal read/writes
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You mean programming AIs for playing those games?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i meant even determining a winning hand
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Ah
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: About Windows memory debugging.. If you compile with Visual Studio, it has a bunch of checks. Not much, though.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yeah, I see how that could get complicated.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it turns out a bit matrix of values is the best way
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: In what plugin and by what variable name does the new mush off the aard site store it's gmcp info?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what's a good linux game to apt-get-install? i'd prefer a rts game like warcraft or a turn based game like phantasy star
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: phantasy star <3
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Wesnoth is pretty good turn-based.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Warzone2100
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maskull ah yeah i have wesnoth already
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: There's always freeciv too.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have that too, but the ai is smarter than me.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and there is never anyone else to play on the public servers
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Savage2 is a kindof RTS/FPS hybrid, though I think you have to do some work to be able to get to the RTS elements.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: sent that to wrong chan earlier...glest is a real time strat/builder
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: How do i set a default page on my apache server?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: IE, which one automatically loads when a user navigates to my URL/IP
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It's probably the index.html somewhere in /var/www
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ifyou symlink your page there, it should load.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Usually, you want an index.html file wherever your webserver will be looking...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What OS?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Didn't think it would be that simple
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm..
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, another question
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: When i naviagte to my URL from my home server, i get the router page (yes the port's forwarded etc), how do i get it to go to my site like http://localhost and http://127.0.0.1 do?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Tell your router to forward TCP port 80 to your box.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Already is
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: see above :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Then I didn't really understand your setup
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: add port to a url ?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is it simply because i'm on the router's server myself?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: IT might be that your porter forwards only incoming connections.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It's even very likely.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: try to host a webserver on a different port, 5190 for example, and then try to access it through http://ip:5190
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: with port forwarding, of course
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Maybe... you could try going to http://localhost:80
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Bleh, figured out the issue
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: nah, Maskull, his router shows its own control webpage
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Put my SSH server on port 80 so i could MUD from school :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Bleh, keep getting error that 'Package is in a very bad inconsistent stats - you should reinstall it before attemtping a removal' -- Then is says i should do it manually and it stops all further downloads, how do i fix this?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: s/stats/state
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Install the package?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Tried
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: dpkg -i blah.deb
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Only spits out this --> 'Errors were encountered while processing'
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: anyone have advice for getting triggers to work in the muschlient? I can't seem to get it to recognize things to react to
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What are you trying to trigger on, and what exactly are you putting in the trigger box?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: I'm trying to trigger another "circle" when the word "circle" is fedback
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You probably need '*' at the start and end of the match line
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: I tried that, that by itself didn't seem to solve it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: When you click on the trigger does it say it has any calls? Are you sending to the right thing i.e. world or script?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: to world, I'm not sure what you mean by calls
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you go to Ctrl+Shift+8 and look at the trigger...it'll say how many times it has been called.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: If the trigger is running an alias, you need it set to 'execute'. 'world' simply sends it to the mud without expanding alias calls
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'd also recommend narrowing the trigger text, hate to see it get triggered whenever someone says I went arround the traffic circle :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: oh that, yeah, 0 calls. No alias. It should be a simple trigger I think, the triggler is "* circle" and the command is "ci", but it's not executing
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: that's a really dumb trigger to make ... really.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: I thought about that, but since my trigger is ci it won't do anything unless I'm fighting already :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well that's the problem. There is no space.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: someone can mess with you pretty badly by sending you tells saying circle circle circle etc.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: we'll find out in a second :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: triggers are different from aliases. Do you want to do the circle spell anytie you type anything like ci?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: ci is already the command for circle, that's not an alias
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ok but do you want to do something everytime you enter that command?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think you'll probably need to match *circle* unless the word occurs at the end of the line
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: and you definitely want to match on something more specific, there's quite a few rooms with the word circle in their title or description which might get a bit annoying
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: it's okay though, it just says "circle whom?" if a random circle shows up, it's working now:) Needed *circle*. Now that it's at least working I might make it more specific if it turns out to have problems
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ok who here is a real math nut and wants to help me make a equation
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: I like da math!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravas Tech: what's the math question?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: new mush install -- downloaded basts plugin and unzipped the plugin (folder V6) to mush-world-plugins --- questions is are the files in folder v6 to be left in the folder v6 or remove from the folder and placed with the other plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: doesn't matter
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: i continue to get errors
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what kind of errors?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: just installed agian so i do not have them wrote down... scrolling errror with orange color text underneath and does not stop
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sorry, I mispoke
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there is a lua folder, make sure the contents of those files are copied to worlds/plugins/lua
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: in regards to gonf?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: install teh v6 folder to the lua folder?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: shake, the v6 folder as a folder inside called lua
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: make sure the files in v6/lua are copied to worlds/plugins/lua
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: ok and then put the plugin parts in the plugin folder?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: so inside v6 i have .svn - lua - and a bunch of plugins ---
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: copy the lua folder and put it insidet the existing lua folder from a fresh download of new mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: then put the plugins inside the plugins folder
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, copy the files inside the v6/lua folder, and put them in the new mush lua folder
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not the whole folder itself, just anything inside it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: What's the actual syntax with #SENDGMCP in cmud to do "request char" and similar commands?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: question, apart from chown -R how can i ensure a directory's owner has full permissions to a file they own?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey, is there an easy way to emulate a cd drive?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: windows?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well. linux right now, but i want to be able to access it from windows , qemu, or wine
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Slysoft clone CD is pretty good as long as you don't need to emulate burning.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if i do qemu i think i can just tell qemu thatits a cd drive
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but qemu doesnt seem to like windows for me
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I don't really know of one that's cross platform. You'll inevitably need a different program for each environment.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: have used daemon tools in the past in windows, but doesn't sound like a fast solution for linux if i doesn't have a linux version. emulating while emulating
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: anyone know why my sound installation disc says faild to install when i wanna install sound i got windows 7 pro 32 bit but c.d only got windows ME,2K,XP,VISTA,98 and 2k worked on my bros pc?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, as i said, if i can get qemu to boot windows then the cd issue is no issue
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: vamp i had the same problem 2day try geting into the boot setup or something
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: in linux, can't you mount an image with the mount command without third party software?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: depends on the distro and what packages you have installed.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: But yes, most up to date distros have built in compatibility for mounting images.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: and most older distos can probably be upgraded to it.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: anyone got a answer to my problem?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Torio: I'm assuming you attempted to load the vista drivers?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: tryed 2k just like my bro did on his it didnt work others install but still no sound
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: try the vista drivers. 2k would be horribly uncompatible with Win 7
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I'm surprised your brother got the 2k drivers to actually work, or he's feeding you a line.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: like i said vista doesnt work it installs but no sound. 2k does work on his i sat next to him when he installed it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: if that fails, figure out what your hardware is, and check online for win7 specific drivers.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: he running windows7 32bit like your box?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: same sound card, same mother board?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: thats the problem no internet ect. Ja he used my windows 7 c.d sound cards the same not sure about mother board
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: what is the sound card?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: no idea just know we both bought new sound cards today same guy same cards
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: That makes it way difficult to troubleshoot. How about this, do your speakers work? You've tested them with a proven source?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: speaker play 100% u know the pcs main volume bar its got an x next to when i try playing songs say canot direct sound ect
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Hmm. Well the only thing to do is figure out what sound card it is you bought. Find somebody who's got a computer hooked up to the internet and find windows 7 drivers (if they exist). Alternately, swap cards with your brother and see if your card works in his system. You could have a faulty card.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: the card could also be incompatible with your mother board.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: could be but i got 2 sound cards 1 in pc 1 not but both wont install
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: same sound card or different ones?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: different
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Using different drivers for each card, or trying to use the same drivers?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Also, I don't know if you tried Vista drivers, or not, but if you can't find a driver listed for Win7, try a Vista driver.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Yeah, vista drivers aren't working for him.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Okay :) Just got back and saw part of the conversation.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: try the same drivers same results
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: no worries, it was the first thing I said too =p
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Well if they aren't the same card, then those drivers aren't going to work with one of them.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: So that's part of your problem. You'll need to find specific drivers for that other card since it's not the same model. But that's ancilliary to the problem at hand. You need to take that card over to your brothers and swap it with his. That will establish whether the card you have actually works.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan nods at Shameful Dugrant.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: but 2k worked for my bro but not for me vista installs but no sound
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: You'll also need to figure out what model sound cards you have as well as what mother board you have. Not all hardware is universally compatible. It's quite possible that the card you have will not ever work in your computer.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: it working for your brother is irrelavent.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: if your card is broken, no driver in the world is gonna make it work.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: unless the hardware is identical
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Right, but he already said he didn't know if the hardware is the same.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Another option: Try booting from a Linux live-disc (eg. latest Ubuntu distro). See whether sound works.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: all that's known is that the new cards are the same.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Of course, that presumes that it will have some kind of compatible driver...may or may not be the case, but it's worth a shot.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: and I'm waivering on that fact.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Wouldn't be the first time Windows gave some random user the middle-finger.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: That's why I said to take the card over to the brother. The brother has a working solution with an identical card. Swapping the cards should resolve whether the suspect card in fact works.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: thats the thing the thing i dont know much about pcs my lan wont work,sound,grapichs card
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas nods at Shameful Dugrant.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Yeah, I figured that one out myself, torio.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Yes, but this is to specifically address whether the card will work in his system at all. If it works in his brother's machine, it would still be a valid check since you indicated concern over its compatibility with other hardware :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I'd spend more time working on getting your LAN up and running. The internet will give you LOADS of help getting more information.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: That is *also* very true! :D
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas thinks the whole push towards making computer peripherals "self-installable" and "plug and play" was merely a ploy to get more work to the tech support geeks.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Indeed. We need to first establish that the card actually works. To do that, we need a system with a proven configuration... ala, brother.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: hang on, so no LAN, no internet, but... Aardwolf? Hmm.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: To be fair salvanas, this was a card "purchased from a guy" I'm not sure how good we can consider those credentials.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Assume phone there salva
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Orly, Salvanas? I remember setting multitudes of jumper settings on motherboards and addin cards, etc...I generally approve of newer methods of configuration :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Ah. Right. Mxit. Gotcha :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: When I buy stuff "from a guy" it tends to be a swap fest purchase and I give about 2:1 odds against such a purchase ever working.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ok i posted my tech msg on newbi
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: but I pay $4 for a flatscreen... so if one in 3 actually can be refurbished, that's a good thing.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: So. Yeah, your best bet is to go swap your card out for our bros, and see if that works. That way you'll save us all a lot of head scratching if it turns out to be just faultyhardware :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: You'll sadly not find much help until you can figure out the two crucial pieces of info: Model of the Sound card and Model of the motherboard. Those are CRUCIAL for further troubleshooting beyond what we've suggested.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: and if you've got a computer geek friend, bribe him with beer.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: most of the time make and model will be written on the chipsets
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Geeks love beer.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ja buy stuff by a guy who works at a computer store repairs pc but gives me a faulty card?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: if it's a new card, no way he'll know if it's good or not until it's out of the box.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: and if it's a used part in a brand new system, there's no way to know if it'll be compatible.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Well, if he didn't test it out of the box, then it could've been faulty from the manufacturer, even.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that happened to me with a pcmcia network card e
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that happened to me with a pcmcia network card e
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shameful Dugrant nods at Akuri.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: DOAs happen. It's just the nature of the beast.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: things get damaged in shipping, or manufactured wrong, or programmed wrong.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: bought a new laptop came complete with a bad stick o ram haha
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: But yes. Your absolute best plan is to bribe a geek into helping you.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: if you don't have a geek, find a comic book store or a gaming shop and pick one up there.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: but doesnt it have something to do with my ram cause i have 2 gig ram but someone replaced the 1 1gig ram with a 256mb that couldnt fit in the pc thats why i could get my pc on
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: most can be bribed with a few hotpockets and some free bandwidth hahaha
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I highly doubt it. I've never had bad or misconfigured ram prevent a sound card from working.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Ram will either prevent your system from working, or cause it to crash/freeze a lot.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: irq error maybie
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: so wait. why did you swap out a 1gig stick fora 256mb stick?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: pretty sure IRQs haven't been around since windows 98
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: IRQs are really a dos thing.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: dos based windows anyway.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: easy way to bribe a geek is tell him u get him a girls number for him. I said someone replaced it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: geeks get girls, nerds don't.get it right
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shameful Dugrant enthusiastically high-fives Legendary Gruagach!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It's not nice to insult the geeks you're asking help from. We can walk you through how to really screw up your system while sounding perfectly beneign.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: u wanna bet in my town geeks dont get girls and if they do they ugly. Not insulting u you all diff geeks your awsome geeks our like weight 150 or more kg
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Welp, no more help for torio.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Have fun with your sound card. I'm sure it'll work out.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: If it doesn't... go PC speaker!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: cruel!
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: put it in file 13 for archiving
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: But it's probably a boot problem. Find a file called "boot.sys" and delete it. It'll rebuild on reboot and let you install the card correctly.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas misses the ole PC speaker game SFX...
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It'll probably be hidden pretty well on your computer. So make sure you can view hidden files.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: how do i know i can trust u now after what u said :?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Anyone wanna back me up?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: Absolutely, Dugrant. :)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: There you have it.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i feel bad for people that can't solve their issues with google these days..
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: I would but I'm like a 150kg geek who misses his ugly gf
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shameful Dugrant comforts Semper Baconist.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: we all miss our ugly GF. I'll just have to keep myself warm with this hot one.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Anyone familiar with cmud?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: I have an issue where, when my prompt is on, i get spammed with 407 then kicked off.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I hear etzli is }:>
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: That's nice.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: dude i was being honest about the 150 kg things you know im dating a geek and im emo so ja
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Honesty is not the same as tact.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: 407? no one know?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Sorry, no Cmud here.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you were dating a geek, you wouldn't need to be asking here ;-)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you mean your client is sending 407 to the mud?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: dunno what you mean by 407 :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: I love you Abe, can I have your baby?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, some trigger must be doing it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: it echos 407 to me.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you have a trigger on your prompt?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: idk....someone else installed everything for me.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: good thing you can search triggers then ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: i did do a search for 407 :P found some things in a spellup script and 1 listing for prompt (jackpot?) but couldnt find anything with 407 in it
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: could be sending a variable, or some value that's otherwise calculated
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't expect there to actually be a #echo 407 line in there :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mitsunari Tech: What of contacting the one who installed everything for you?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: they said they didnt know
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, you said you found a trigger on your prompt. disable it, turn your prompt on.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type autocast, see if it stops (your autospellup should pause)
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: does it still send 407?
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: lemme get back in...brb
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ok i insulted some of u im sorry about that was trying to make a joke but honstly i live around geeks my gf a geek my friends geek im a lil bit geek when it comes to xbox,ps3 ect true honstly people if i insult u all im mainly insulting the people i love u can forgive me or dont as long as u know im sorry
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: k i disabled the prompt thing and now when i log in, it freezes and crashes. sooooo im guessing i need the prompt thing enabled.
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: night
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Haha... my ISP has had an outage for 12+ hours. It just came back on but right now the speed is mega slow. I lagged when using runto :P
T3/r3/2011-03-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruthless Ross assumes they're still working.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know how i can view my webserver on my own wireless network without sshing into my server box, wget'ing the page, scp'ing it over to my local box, and then opening in a browser? Currently when i type my IP into the URL box of my browser it just takes me to my router's page.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dash Tech: contact miss cleo
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You sure you have the port forward rule set up correctly?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some routers have an option to differentiate between rebound traffic and directly pointing at the router itself
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I remember on my old router I had to check a special box to do what you want to do
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i added the rule to forward port to my box on all the possible fields
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: IE, WAN to LAN, LAN to LAN, LAN to WAN/Router, etc
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Are you connecting on that port?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: port forward rules won't help you if the router is screwing with your attempt to route outside and then back in
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, i found out how
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do tell
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Apparently instead of using my actual IP (76.7.17.175) i had to use my local private IP (192.168.2.2)
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like your router is doing exactly what I'm describing
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Does http://localhost/ work too?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: or you're on a different comp on the network?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Localhost works, but doesn't go to the right box
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it loops back into my box, instead of the remote one running the server
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maskull nods.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see if your router supports NAT loopback
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and if so enable it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It doesn't
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Got a question though, why isn't " printing anything at all?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: anyone here able to answer a question about a mushclient alias?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: okay
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I mean maybe
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: But not unless you actually ask it!
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: ok ... I'm trying to use a wildcard but when I use %%1 it doesn't display even though I entered something after my alias
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: err %1
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make your alias end in *
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: I did, it is zoom *
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and what are you trying to do with it?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: I figured it out. I accidently clicked on conver to regex and then fixed it but it was still trying to match a regular expression
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jspr Tech: this bunch of numbers keeping popping up for mush client whenenver i enter a new line, what is it?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jspr Tech: "{stats}54/30,30/20,37/13,47/25,32/25,60/30,100,100,99,136,190,You are Standing.,9999,535/535,365/365,874/875,960414,8535,2,2345,2960,1,5"
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Type statmon
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jspr Tech: lovely
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's tags used for plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jspr Tech: and what about this (chan ch=tech) thing?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: tags channel off
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help tags
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jspr Tech: Thanks alot mates.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone have a trigger for hour double ?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone else getting connection outtages downstream?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Semper Baconist Tech: not me Tigs
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: probably networklayer and their dodgy infrastructure
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i remember someone else having trouble with them earlier in the week
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: does anyone know of a good client for linux? specifically one that will seperate the chat from the main window?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mudlet
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mudlet, tinyfugue and tintin are all native, and you can run mushclient or zmud under wine
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: ok i will try those out thank you :)
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: In my experience, mushclient has some pretty distracting graphical glitches under wine though.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't care if you manage to put 10 stats on a lvl 1 skin :P
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: anyone know if there is a C function which will check if a float's decimal is .00 or greater?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: x > .00
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: if (fl - floor(fl) > 0) ...
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: (int)myfloat < myfloat
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: oh nvm i see what you want. cizra is correct
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: floor will remove the number before the decimal and check if there's anything leftover?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: floor will round the number down to the nearest integer
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: no, floor will remove anything after the decimal point
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: so will a cast to int
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no, floor truncates. full float minus integer = decimal component
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: i'm just trying to make an if statement at the moment that checks if a number which is being decremented by the decimal... if the number gets to 15.00 for example.... or 14.00...
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: grizzler if you cast to an int then subtract from a float then the compiler needs to cast it twice... not very effecient
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: so just trying to check if the deci is > .00 or not...
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: why do you need to subtract it?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: making a timer
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: so there's no simple bool or check?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MicahN Bah. As if a function call would be MORE efficient.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Also, MicahN, until you give a demonstrable test of the inefficiency, I'm not going to believe you (=
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: true but most of the function calls are very well optomized. casting has to remove then rewrite memory locations to change the type( a float is not stored the same as an int)
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Void n00b Lyna sighs.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MicahN, come up with a demonstration of this inefficiency, then I'll believe you.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: lol but really in this application id doesnt matter its all going to do it faster than a blink of an eye.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: ANY experienced C programmers out there who can answer this? -.-
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: but if you were working with millions of numbers then it may come into play
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I did, Lyna
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: which one of your responses checks if the deci on a float is > .00
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MicahN Tech: cizra's does
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: the one with if and floor, Lyna
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: okay, thanks. I'll give it a try
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: any idea where the floor function is located in the c lib?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: #include
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Void n00b Lyna Tech: thanks :) you pretty much rock my world atm.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Void n00b Lyna nods.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: before I buy my spellups wish, will it affect the amount of time it takes to casts my spellups through a plugin, or only game-side?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every which way
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most players use client-side scripts for it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although nowadays some of those scripts are little more than a wrapper around the in-game spellup
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I have the client-side script but I guess i'm just not used to the lag in this game....everything seems so slow, commands take forever when i have 8 spellups in que
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: yea muchhhhh better with the spellup wish
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the delay is from the game not your client script though
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, it makes a huge difference, with each of the spellup wishes cutting it down
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: cizra - I had to check. You method takes more than twice as long as mine :)
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: That's with 1,000,000,000 comparisons 24sec vs 51sec
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: spellup3 does not make much of a difference
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: So the implication is that calling floor is approx equivalent to 4 casts?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: at least on your machine
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Pretty common arch you know, 32 bit intel
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Oh, actually, that ignores the overhead of all the other computations, so it's more extreme than that.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: You don't have to believe me. Test yourself :)
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Not questioning your results, just trying to learn something w/o going to any effort myself. ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lmao
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: floating point math is hard. let's go shopping.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: ok why do i get this error when i turn on broadcast skills plugin --- Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if xinitrc is where to store my kde thing, where do i store it if xdm is firing up kde(intended to) instead?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I'm getting a really strange issue on the stock Android Facebook app, anyone maybe able to help?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its broken
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: After entering my login info, it shoots me to the Sync contacts screen as it should, but the nit asks for my password again...forever, no matter how many times I put my password in.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: They are trying to help you.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: And it's the right password. I went and changed it, etc, to make sure.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yep its busted. try updating it. might work. might have to wait a week or so till they update it.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: maybe you forgot your password? lol
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: You should have to pass a test before being allowed to do anything other than ask questions on tech channel.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: did you update the app
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I'm running CM7 RC1, I'm fairly certain it's an issue with that.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah it could be, but have you run the app before and this just became a problem or is this your first time running it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: facebook changes their crap all the time. their app breaks you have to update it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: It worked just fine before I flashed CM7 the other day, and worked just fine after flashing CM7 until I rebooted my phone, then it magically stopped working.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I don't actually care about Facebook itself at all, but I want it to sync :p
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hm try removing the app
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I've done all the normal stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Uninstalling/reinstalling, reverting to a previous backup, clearing data, etc
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh. well you have a 50/50 chance of you're screwed or facebook screwed up and will have a fix in the next week or so
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: gnome 3, the reason to switch to xfce
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: i can't understand how anyone thinks gnome-shell is good idea
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I hadn't been thinking about it much. Slashdot just posted about it though. Remove the min/max buttons? Make everything look like pictures? I'm gone.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol, if I wanted a Mac I'd buy one. I don't - at all.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: i was gone a while ago but i'm not using a desktop environment at all and what i do use is pretty weird and not for everybody.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: What do you use?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: i use a window manager called stumpwm
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: which doesn't even have windows per se. just frames i can set up.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: if you've ever used screen in the console it's like that but in X
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra uses xmonad
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: hifive mouseless buddy
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I type "list" in a shop I see only the items they sell (not the crap others have sold to them) but my friend sees the whole list. what setting so I have set that she doesnt?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone have experience with Bast's Miniwindow plugin? To make your own plugins? I've got the basics now trying to figure out how to change color/format. Can't make sense of the example.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: It looks interesting. I don't want to learn Lisp though.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xattr Tech: not for everybody :) check out xmonand. that's what the less weird people who like that style of WM use
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: My ISP is so crapped up right now from some failure that happened yesterday that the -tech support line- is down, rofl
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: rquest a free month for inconvinience
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Well, that did it. Gnome is gone with about 1G of disk space recovered too.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: is there a comments syntax in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zippity Zogbad Tech: hmmm try semiclon
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zippity Zogbad Tech: make that semicolon
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: tech excellent, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: thats a single line comment, is there a multi line version?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zippity Zogbad Tech: don't know about multiline - the only other one i know is // to comment end of line
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: ok techy's I'm having a problem
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: Using bast's plugin, on mush. When leveling, it reports my time, but doesn't report hp mn mvs etc. just says 0's
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: anyone know how to fix?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six Six Six starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Only thing I can think is do you have the statsdb plugin installed as well as statsmonitor
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Six Six Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so i have a secondary computer running a lamp server, is there any way i can use my external hard drive (attached to the computer) as an access point instead of /var/www. I set up a site and such and set the root drive as /media/CMHD, but when i navigate to it i get an error about 'permission denied, cannot access / on this server'. I tried adding a symbolic link to the drive in /var/www but still get's permission denied regardless of what permissions i set on the link.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: sorry, longer than i thought it was gonna be
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that sounds like linux talk
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 'tis
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can local users access it ok?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: chmod'd /media and /media/CMHD to 777 recursively
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I can access it fine, just not via the internet connection
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when you say by internet connect, do you mean file sharing or is it a website?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's also a shared drive, so i can access it via samba, but not when i go to my www.website/to/drive
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: see above :P
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i see
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: we never had this problem with tapes, you know
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: rofl
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Just every OTHER issue :P
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Could be related to apache config, is there a setting for whether it's allowed to follow symlinks? I've not had to configure apache for a few years so I can't be much more help than that though
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, i enabled FollowSymLinks
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: What's the drive formatted as? If it's some windows format it might not be handling permissions correctly
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i believe it's NTFS
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So yeah, windows-format
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That might be the source of the problem then, I'm not sure how it'll handle the linux permissions, I know from recent experience it's quite twitchy about special characters in filenames and such, doesn't like things like '?' and ':' in filenames so I just repartitioned my removable drive as ext3
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Trying to find the file to double check that permissions are set up as, but i can't recall where it's at, it's somewhere int /etc/init.d/ i think, but i can't remember which directory after that. Anyone know?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i accidentally got kerberos authentication working
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, i've been very careful about not putting special chars in anything
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Had a problem deleteing a file because it had a space at the end and neither windows nor linux would see it correctly to remove it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So since then i've been VERY careful about file/folder names
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is /etc/fstab what you're looking for, for setting permissions?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nah, just found it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it was /etc/init.d/apache2
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing he's looking for what credentials the daemon is using
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fstab is just the definition of filesystems/partitions to mount
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, thought he was looking for what the removable drive was getting set up as, my mistake :)
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Just checked permissions, followsymlinks, etc and i still get 403 when i try and navigate to it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: even when naviagting as root and/or webmaster to the site via URL line.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dented Domain Tech: does anyone recommend a hdtv with internet or does it not matter?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vizio.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dented Domain Tech: turie, my question was more do you recommend it with or without the internet capabilities
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Domain: I am using it right now for streaming movies via Netflix, playing console games, and watching tv/movies.
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: can you get everything you need for the new client from Basts page, or need to get he client from other and plugins from bast >?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: get the client from the aardwolf homepage and then add my plugins to it
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nice, thanks Bast. Planning on being around in the next few ?
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: can't promise anything, plus there is a whole lot of documentation at my website
T3/r3/2011-03-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Download mush, switch mcl file, add group monitor, done? Then add other plugins at will?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone direct me to the MCL file, MUSHClient > Worlds > ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's it
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Aardwolf.mcl?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ya dont see it, is is the entire worlds. Inside worlds I have Aardwold and Plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: someone help
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: spam
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: spam
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: someone?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: reinstall yout spellup plugin.... i had that same problem earlier
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Trying to install Basts V6 into the new MUSH. Where do I put the V6 folder ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks Abel
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: stupid spellup plugin... malfunctioned... weird... but thanks... whisper helped me... sweet T9
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: If I cant see what Im typoing on the new mush, ez fix ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: meh found it, sry
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: is there any way to format the typing box in mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: {affoff}434 syntax to fix this ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: so its black and text is white for example.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sheni, add the spellup plugin...file -> plugins, add, v6, aardwolf_spellups_mw_bast
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will gag the {affoff}/{affon}
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: New MUSH wont maximize to full screen, anyone have a fix ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unmax it and remax it
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: thanks again abel
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: When adding the V6 plugins, do I have to add them all seperately, or can I just add the whole V6 folder ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: puredeath, game -> configure -> commands...around halfway down is Command Window, Command Colours
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Is it normal, when I copy the MCL file, I have to add back all of the plugins ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: mcl is pretty much just everything you see under the Game->Configure menu
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Which, you will note, does not include plugins.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: everytime i level i get Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error. and Invalid spellheaders line: ,0,0,0,-1,2
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: can anyone help?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: on mod_rewrite... is there a way to redirect url but not rewrite it? such that http://a.b/c redirects to http://a.b/d/c but url stays at http://a.b/c?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: am I the only one needing to restart Aard MUSH about 10 times before it stops generating errors ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_Spellups_miniwin, Function/Sub: display_timer called by timer, full screen of errors each time I open it, after entering a world
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anadorr: I am not using that spellup. I am using Bast's plugins for spellups. It seems to be working fine for me.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: miniwin_spellup ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anadorr: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anadorr: Take a look and see what you think.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: y, I know
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: what command hides your prompt from appearing after pressing 'enter' ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: prompt
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Anadorr falls on his knees and worships Turie.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: yea you can always "schedule" it like that, thats basically what cron is doing
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It will be, i'm still working on the code to determine which line to grab, basically i just need integer random, which isn't hard. Almost all languages have it in some form or another.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah... random()
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is that PHP's?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no PHP's is rand()
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: rand(min, max)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hadn't checked if PHP had it or not, was gonna use perl for that too, but i guess i can use the PHP one.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: You can also clean out the colors in PHP if you don't already have a PERL script written.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So something like rand(0, strlen($file_lines))
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: you can do it all in either php or perl
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: PHP is like the C for server scripting.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: strlen($file_lines) - 1
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: yep, I would pick one to work with :)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Why -1?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: well its either from 1 to length or 0 to length minus 1
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: because you're starting at 0
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I see.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: please do not call php c
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lol hero
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus grins evilly.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's like c but without the speed }:>
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why not?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Reminds me a demotivational i saw the other day. "PHP, it's the training wheels without the bike.":
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Also, are you trying to get the number of lines?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: why not? have you used either of them?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, that's why I made the comparison.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol comparison fail
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: can i redefine addition in php?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: as in the operator
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: @ Griz: I haven't done it yet, but it can't be that hard :P Draw the file into a var, get the var's length, etc
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: not some nambly pambly function
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Define rolls on the floor laughing at a foreign hero's antics!
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus laughs derisively at Define and her inability to write a simple social!
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Use file - it will read them all into an array :)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger has called an Epic Fail on Define! FootLong Cheezburger = 1 Define = 0
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Will do, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so i have a question that's probably going incite some sort of a debate, but: is it better to use relative links on my personal webserver (ie, css/css.main) or static links like 'http:/my/site/css/css.main'. I had been using relative on the chance that i move stuff i only have to change a few lines of html code, but alot of the stuff i've been looking at online is using static links.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Relative links, I would say.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i concur
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: relative links unless you have a very specific reason to do otherwise
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you ever change the site address, or have to move things around in folders, it is a NIGHTMARE to change absolute links.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The only issue i forsaw with relative links, is that if someone really wanted to wget my entire site they'd be able to, but at this point in time i don't care who steals my site.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like if you have a virtual domain routing through a frameset, and you want the links to show up as the virtual address instead of the actual
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a silly concern
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i cant think of any reason why you would use static. maybe unless you will never ever change? impossible ?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: wget -rl -U Mozilla --robots=off '/path/to/site'
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm sure it will change
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: In fact almost guaranteed it will change.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So basically stick with my current pattern? Only use static links to redirect to other websites?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Nothing wrong with that :)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: not static, absolute :)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Good, didn't want to undo all the work i had done :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: When i dl'd my other website (made with an online builder) i had to change all the links because it automatically changed all my relative links to absolute
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Basically did wget /path/to/my/other/site then had to open it with nano and crawl throguh changing all the links (pain in the ass)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Is it -k that handles that?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, what am i missing here? Why does "$tmp=array(1=>2,2=>3,3=>4);echo strlen($tmp)" return 5 instead of 3?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: are the commas getting put into the string?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: you are operation on an array, not a string
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: strlen?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, is there an array alternative to find the array size?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grizzler wonders how many typos he can make in one sentence.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: count
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: K, will try that. Thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, that works. Thanks.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Another question, is it better to use PHP's own methods to do something, or is it just as 'OK' a method to use shell_exec() and use the linux processes i'm more familiar with? IE, instead of using fopen() i use wget > file.txt?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anything native is going to go faster than a scripting agent.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that said, it probably doesn't matter one way or the other for most things.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm not too concerned with speed as ease of use. I'm more familiar with linux's commands than having to look up how to do the same thing in PHP's methods.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: What are you actually trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: This is for a personal site, right? Then if you're comfortable using the shell exec, go ahead and do it.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: basically, wget a webpage's content, pass through a sub script to remove unwanted tags (HTML tags for example) and post it to my site inside my own tags
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, personal site
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: on the client you download from aardwolf website: Is there a way to setup clickable buttons? If so how.. I can't seem to find a way and I've used other clients that do
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you have to cheat at it a little bit. Mush doesn't do true graphical buttons, to my knowledge, so you'd have to do things like the miniwindows do.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: you have suggestion as to a good client then? would like buttons but retain the seperate windows for stats/maps/communication in this client
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: CMud and ZMud are the only ones I know of that actually do buttons.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and at this point, if you don't already own ZMud you may as well buy CMud because ZMud is developmentally dead. Anything new to it will come about only in the form of enterprising users willing to share their scripts and plugins with you.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi, how can add subtitles to one video?, which program can do it?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: beats me. If any app can add subtitles to one video it can do so to every video.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: did you try google or the search options at download sites like tucows or cnet?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/214768-How-to-add-permanent-subtitle-to-a-video-with-virtualdubmod
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: but you'd better just make srt file (subtitle file), most players will read and display it by default
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Define nods at Anadorr.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: indeed. some dvd players require the srt to be named the same as the avi file
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: did you try google or the search options at download sites like tucows or cnet?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mix
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'm trying to move mushclient over to linux and wine (my windows partition's playing up) and I'm getting a dialog requesting a missing font when I start mush. I've changed the font in world properties and all the visible miniwindows which hasn't fixed the problem. What have I missed?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Maybe it'd be easier to find and install the font?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: The docs I found on the web says wine only recognises ttf fonts, the one I had on windows is a .fon file, so I assume it won't work?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Define Tech: drag it to fonts and find out xP
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: You can probably find an app to conver tit.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Fontforge might be able to
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: how about rename any ttf font?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I'm skeptical that just changing the file extension would do it though.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it won't
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: not extension, the name part
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I didn't think of converting it, that might work, I'll have a look in google, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Oh, I see.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: might as well just choose a different font, then.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}How Cuddly Asgan Tech: i'm trying to put the chat window in my mushclient just like in the aard version one, someone knows how i can do that?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You need to have MUSHclient 4.72 to do it.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}How Cuddly Asgan Tech: i do
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Why not just download the snapshot from http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has everything setup to load from the beginning. Then you can add in all your other plugins.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}How Cuddly Asgan Tech: that's exctly what i dont wanna do...
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}How Cuddly Asgan Tech: ok, i'll try it otherways, thx... (closing channel)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Varelis Tech: is there a way, with the aard mushclient to hunt 1-5 of an enemy without all the manual typing?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You might need to make an alias say hunt ** and have hunt %1.%2?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: see help www for the aardhaven website, it should have a plugin for the hunt trick
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lady Varelis Tech: in zmud, I would just type #10 hunt %i.mobname
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: And PHP guru's around here able to help be debug why my PHP is script is removing my ' ' tags?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there a different function beside simple_xml_load in php to draw a rss feed into an array without stripping the s>
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: s?*
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: how can I make a trigger not care wether or not the variable is upper or lower case?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birdbrain Metria Tech: In which client?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: zmud
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: variables in zmud aren't case sensitive...are you talking about string comparison?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: no, they must be because only when I make the variable uppercase does the trigger go off
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they're not...
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: @VARIABLE is the same thing as @variable
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: tats = tats = TAtS...
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: fail.... i give up
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: Are you comparing the contents of said variable to something else?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: yes the contents
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i already said that velian :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: var is Holy
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: cause if your variable holds "String" as it's contents then you would just use %lower(ar)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and you said no, atom :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: only when it sees Holy uppercase does it fire
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: well you said string comparison or something :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes...
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: over my head sir
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're comparing two strings :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ominous Atom grins evilly.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: ok, we're on the same page :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but yeah, just %lower both or %upper both
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: in the trigger? #if (%1 = %upper(ranstype)
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: or something :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: use %upper on both
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #if (%upper(%1) = %upper(@variable))
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it converts them both to uppercase
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so the original case doesn't matter in the end
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: ah cool, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mushclient, say i want to capture a keyword after a specific command, like hunt. how would I capture that keyword?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: make an alias for hunt
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that's what i thought but i can't quite get it to work
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i have a variable to send it to but it wont send to it
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the send to is set to world and it sends a hunt %1 and in variable at the bottom there's untmob but that variable stays empty
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: @huntmob
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is there some box i need checked?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i have the alias capable of sending the keyword to the variable but how do i make that alias also then hunt the keyword?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i have to change the send to, to variable to get it to update the variable...
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: surely someone has come dealt with this
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: if only that mapper wasnt so sweet eh :P
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: if i change the send to to world, it peforms the hunt but doesn't send the keyword to the variable
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: thats pretty annoying lol
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: surely there's a way to do both of these things within one command
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: There very well may be, and don't call me Shirley.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: dont make me wistful for leslie neilson, this is not the time for nostalgia
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: why must you guys horde this information lol
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: My bad. But surely I couldn't pass up an opportunity to use that quote.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i was asking this same question the other day and no one will answer it
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It's possible that nobody knows the answer. I certainly don't.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Will Ansurit? Yeah, Will Ansurit was the nightwatchman. But he wasn't here then.
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalian Tech: How can you get vipmud to remember a character's mud, address, and port?
T3/r3/2011-03-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is there a way to call a plugin's alias from a client alias?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If it's an alias just type it
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Or do Execute("alias")
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: From inside another alias
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ugh i hate bast's plugin scripts
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they never frackin work and somehow just installing the pieces the script says it needs managed to break the ascii mapper
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My Firefox and Youtube are not getting along well. I can load one Youtube video, but if I open any more, they don't appear. The audio plays, but there is just white space where the video should be. What gives?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: any idea why when i install all of the parts for bast miniwin_cp the information is pulled from the cp check return but there's no miniwindow anywhere
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: How do the variables work O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: how can i find alarm/timer which is still working, but shouldnt.. (?) -> deleted one
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: zmud - #TS 30 {actions}
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: well sorry the {} part is wrong, but the timer set is right. you can right click the timer above the cmd bar and change it as you please once it's running
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: no uhm i mean.. i have one timer (or maybe it was alarm) working. i cannot find it
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: because i deleted it
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: %alarm(name) will display it if it exists. otherwise you hvae to make a new one.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: how can i list alarms?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i think just "#alarm" with no modifiers will display all alarms visible.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mushclient, let's say a wildcard returns a multiple word string. is there a way to break it up so that each word is fed into a separate variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in a script, alias, trigger?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw "mcp cp toggle" will show you the cp miniwindow
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Question. How to change aliases so that there is no need to change the dual wielded weapon manually each time it changes O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What client?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Mush :3
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: use remove duel, and set up a trigger to note the weapon removed?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: remove second*
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can do it in cmud, but alas not mush.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Gah. Everyone SAYS that starling. H8
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Eh, a trigger that works how?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the foolproof way is write a plugin and watch for invmon and then whenever something is removed from the dual slot, save it in a variable
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Whose whatse?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i don't have dual wield now, so i can't check, but you get a specific message with the weapon name when you remove second right?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ahh, yes you do, "
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: You stop wielding in your off-hand.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: then as Bast said, you just have to capture that name and save it as a variable
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: but then the problem is how do you find the keywords for that item, not all weapons have keywords in their short name
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ah! good point!
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Ah god, I thought this was going to be simple .-.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nothing is simple if you want to cover all the scenarios, believe me
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It is. Turn invmon on. Trigger off this line: "{invmon}1,2435020,-1,25"
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 2435020 is the id num of your dual weapon that got removed
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vagus: so you have been asking the same question for days, and when I offer to help (even after you say you hate my scripts) and I don't get a response?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: im trying it now
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and its still not working
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Pretend like you're a doctor and i'm a normal person and you just said some crazy doctor term and i'm all like - english please?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what does "mcp cp info" say?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: is it the cp window or the events window?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: miniwin_cp v6 CP Info
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Make a trigger (game->configure->triggers). In the top box, put "{invmon}1,*,-1,25" (without the quotes)
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In the bottom box, put %1
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: tech shown false, hidden false
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In the send_to drop-down menu, change it to "variable"
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: check the "keep evaluating" box
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Back when I started mudding, even aliases were considered cheating...:) *duck*
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: left 0 top 0 heigh 215 width 372
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: put the name of whatever variable you want to call it in the "variable" box (let's say "dualled")
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: so the window is in the top left corner of you mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: well i can tell you that its definitely not there
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And that will store the last weapon you had in your dual slot in the @dualled variable
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: when i cp check it comes up blank so its pulling the cp mobs
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: but it isnt opening the window
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you need to enable 'invmon' here for it to work right?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what does it say for shown and hidden from the info command?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yes, enable invmon if it's not on
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Okay okay. And will it dual the right weapon then?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then, let's say you want to be able to type "rewear dual" to rewear your dualled weapon. Make an alias. Put "rewear dual" in the top box.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: zomg it finally came up
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then in the bottom box, put "dual @dualled", and check the "expand variables" box
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And that should do it
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: Okay. O.o Ima try that. Thank you! <3
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you can even have the 'rewear dual' bit in the same trigger if you don't need to wait for it
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vagus: btw for your first question about splitting arguments, look at the script functon utils.split
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: thanks bast, its nice to finally get ahold of ya :)
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: for example, if it were to be used after a macro that remove second, wear portal, enter....
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and i didnt say i hate your scripts i said i hate that i couldnt get them to work and no one could answer any questions about it
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: but i can see how one could come across as the other
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: really: quoted from tech "[07 Mar 00:19:54] Vagus Tech: ugh i hate bast's plugin scripts" ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol dammit guilty
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: foot is in my mouth now
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: its fine, I am just kidding with you
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: believe me, I have been just as frustrated with my scripts as you have ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alluring Armenia Tech: YAY it works!
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: What was the original code base for Aardwolf?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: None.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's all lasher's code
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: It was diku/rom before 2007, though. It was rewritten then.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: rom 2.4 pre v3 I think
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: aardwolf is based on the code of the dragon
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I thought it was diku, but couldn't remember.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: help credits gives details
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Was just reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: am i mentioned in it?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: WTH is AardWolf doing with ImageMagick lib?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Drawing maps I think?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: making image magic?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: seemed so obvious..
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: why would cmud spam numbers at me when i turn my prompt on?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: what kind of numbers?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: it just spams 439 over and over, one per line...but its like echoing it to me
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: No idea I'm afraid...
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crixus bursts into tears.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: grar, bloody firefox
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rather helpful bitched and moaned that my version of flash player was out of date and might have security vulnerabilities until i updated in, and now it don't bloody work
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my flash player hasnt been updated yet...
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i read some hbgary thing on cryptome that made me feel even more paranoid
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude giggles at Tigernuts's actions.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: one wonders why they can't just make one version that works and is secure, and leave it alone, or at least leave it alone for at least a few months
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i guess i wouldn't have this problem if the tv stations here wouldn't insist on using Adobe Air as their delivery platform
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but then, the same flaw happens on youtube and other flash-based media players
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: does anyone know how the menu in aliases works? I created an alias and selected menu but when I left click I don't see my alias.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: geez, this ad-aware full scan has taken 2 hours so far... and i don't even have much data by today's standards
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: can't imagine how long it'd take on like a terabyte drive full of stuff :P
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: run it more often, should run faster
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Getting the Aard client to work under Ubuntu is a bit funky...
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Is anyone aware of a way to auto-adjust the gui windows in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autoadjust according to what criteria? and which version of mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Hi, Abe. Whatever version is the official Aardclient. I'm just looking to easily fit all this jazz on my little netbook screen.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: If I could find an "about" I would give you the correct version... Sheesh.
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: about is always in the help menu
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Found it. 4.72
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Anyone have experience with subregex in cmud 3.33?
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: If anyone knows, is there a way to match in subregex strting from either a newline or from the end of the last match, ^ does newline, but I can't find someway to say since the last match
T3/r3/2011-03-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I'm not sure I understand what you're asking, but you can chain expressions together, and it will only match the entire sequence.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just to check, there is no way to include something like 'open n' in the mapper run?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Yeah, I think you can make it a custom exit
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: hmmm.... i'll try again
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: do the custom exit buy stack it with the run then it will store the next room... understand? I dont explain very well
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: what did i miss?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i get it, i'll test if it works
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: ah, it works, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i tried using the add exit option before and it didn't, but i guess the custom exit was the key
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: If I want to physically test my phone line for DSL stability like the field techs do, what sort of equipment do I need? Will a basic phone line tester like this work? http://www.hobbytron.com/ETT400K.html Or do I need more specialized equipment? If so, what is it called?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ross, you mean... if you want to carry around a tone generator like the field techs carry, is that a tone generator, or what kind of tests do you hope to do?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Basically I've been having super horrible lag problems with my DSL and I want to see whether the lines inside the house are bad.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so... you basically are wanting to check the noise? the conductivity? the signal? what?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I... honestly don't know. Noise sounds like a good place to start.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well to be honest, the equipment will likely cost more than just switching to a different service ...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Bleh. Okay, thanks. I plan to have a field tech come out, but the wiring in this house is extremely old and it's hard to even tell what wires go to which jacks because it's so messy. If he finds that the signal on the outside of the house is fine, that says nothing about the inside
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in that case, getting new telephone wiring is cheaper than paying a tech to come out =)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: even with the cost of copper, telephone wire is pretty cheap... just don't use heater wire by mistake
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Fortunately, the initial check is free. If we end up having to have everything rewired, though, that's definitely going to be a job
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: hey...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: hello
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: so like, if my warranty for my gfx card is gonna expire. should i just send my card in and ask for a replacement? even if it works. just in case?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: if it were me, i wouldn't bother
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: If it works fine now, dont risk them sending a defective one :|
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: thanks for the input guys!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: and if i were them, i'll just give you your card back if it tested working
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: yea. i had that thought also armenia.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: and kirua also.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: both ways there are long term risks
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: T_T can never tell with hardware. laptop had a massive hdd failure, under 2weeks since it was bought. acer aspire.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: so massive they replaced the hdd.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: lol O.o wow
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: hdd?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: harddisk sorry.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: is there a way to make a trigger for my potions when life gets below certain lvl... like wimpy?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: been trying to setup glassfish to authenticate users via kerberos all morning. It's not been a pretty blue office
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if anyone has managed to get it working successfully, let me know
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (oracle's documentation on the subject is somewhere between lamentable and missing)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: [they should have used Mirosoft IIS and be done with it, bloody cheapskates]
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone use open office?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol... iPad spec sheet lists this environmental restriction: Maximum operating altitude: 10,000 feet (3000 m) lol
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: sitting in Cusco I was at 4300m. wonder if an ipad would just melt in place or what
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You can take it higher if you use imperial measurements? 10000 feet is 3048 meters. That's cool but how does it know?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i dont understand altitude being a limiting factor in its performance?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: does the lower pressure cause the parts to want to fly apart?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: slow the spinning speed of the hard drive?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Maybe related to some sensors or the touch screen, perhaps won't operate below a certain air pressure? I don't really know, to be honest.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nah ios device screens are heat sensitive
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Fans won't move as much air, less cooling power...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea i guess
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: technically they'll move the same amount of air it'll just be less oxygen rich, right?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, it'll be thinner, less dense, so technically less "air" per unit volume...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: but is it the saturation of air per volume that cools?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: or merely the volume in motion
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Not as many molecules to pass the energy on to, I'd think it'd lessen the ability to cool...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its contact between air particles and the device components
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: contact transfers kinetic energy
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i feel like i just stepped onto the set of Mr. Wizard
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: a fan would heat instead of cool if the air molecules are hot
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and thus the space heater was born
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: pretty much, any forced air heating same deal
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: note that a blow torch is not an ideal home heating solution
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: well, my original point was to talk about how the ipads are actually more expensive than the android tablet devices
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: that depends on how you get it
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: is there a way to make a trigger for my potions when life gets below certain lvl... like wimpy? on mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: abelinc was arguing with me the other day that no android tablet is cheaper than the ipad
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: im looking at tiger direct and a 10" android tablet is $399
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ipad2 is 499 starting
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ipad1 starts at 399
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah and tiger direct is hardly the cheapest source
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: tiger direct always has good prices
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: exactly
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: eh they used to...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: prolly cheap on newegg.com as well
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so if tiger direct isnt the lowest and they're selling android tabs for 400...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: there are very few channels to get ipads through. with android the OS isn't tied to the manufacturer you can get a very wide range of devices and put android on them
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: so how would I make that trigger for my potions?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: with style
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you should check out other potion scripts that exist and go from there
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: si
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: so how would I make that trigger for my potions?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: oops sry
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: how bad is to just tie the power wires (12V) instead of soldering them ?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Depends how often you want to retie them
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Could at least use wirenuts...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: once per 5 years :)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Pedwiddle.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: electrical tape?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so i want to make an alias for dual in mush, that will both dual wield the following keyword, and save that keyword into a variable. the problem i encounter trying to do this is i can do one or the other but not both. can someone tell me how the alias should be configured?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Soldering is the most secure, and my personal choice, but there's not real harm in anchoring it via other means
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ok, that's what I was after, thanks Cheezburger :)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: make the alias call two other aliases by sending its output to 'execute'
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at A Piece Of Herodotus.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: one of those other aliases sets the variable and one does your dual weild command
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: or Execute("") if you're sending to script
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'd say send it to script and do SetVariable("Dualed", "%1");Send("dual @Dualed")
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it is a lot simpler/cleaner in script in my opinion
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: make the alias send "SetVariable('dual', '%1'); Send('dual \'%1\'')" to Script... and replace ; with new line
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: huan's is a bit more secure with the ''s in it, go with that
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: wow lotsa help thanks guys :)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: the apostrophes and the semicolons are at war!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: (ow! right in the colon)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: and nod, ';' won't work, hit enter instead
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: any general interest out there in an eq manager plugin? the idea is it would allow you to set an id as your prefered eq for its slot and level, and would automatically handle changing when you level, etc.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: already have one i wrote for cmud ;) it's amazing!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nice! want to share? i'd like to see what you have versus what I'm thinking and what I can emulate or expand
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: what client you building it in?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: probably mush why
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: mine auto-equips on level, re-equips after death (via alias), has a "swap" function for dualing/shield/etc
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: nice
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: only thing i haven't incoorporated (cause it doesn't bother me) is if a "get" or "wear" fails, it just keeps going and doesn't know it failed
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: hmm getting a [string "Alias: "]:2: ')' expected near 'razor' error
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: let me see how "exportable" mine is... i don't generally build them to share hehe
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol yeah even if its not well formatted i'll be able to read it no worries, would be much appreciated!!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea I keep getting the [string "Alias: "]:2: ')' expected near 'razor' error
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: did you strip the outermost " characters?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: attempt to call global 'dual' a nil value
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: my bad, there is error on second line... it should read Send("dual '%1'").
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: without dot
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ahh double quotes there
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: beautiful ty
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: what's the syntax to call an alias from within another?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: execute("")?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if client based then depends on client... as far as aard built in alias... dont think u can
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i meant client side sorry
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: that should get sm1 to answer u fast then :p plenty of ppl use mush
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: nm i figured that part out
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so now im wondering about the utils.split function
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it's Execute("") not execute("")
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lua is case sensitive.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: say i want to split a wildcard off into x variables, then compare for the longest string
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: curious, why the requirement for longest?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: words=string.split(var, " "), if (len(words[1]) > len(words[2]) then print(words[1] .. " is longer") else print(words[2] .. " is longer") end
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: typically keywords are the longer ones in a string
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: typically, the longest words aren't keywords, it is mainly the non article short words that are keywords
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Just have it "id" the item when you use the alias and set the keywords from there
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: its actually for mob name when receiving a quest
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: im sure that opens a different can of worms
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: use invmon if you want to be sure that you get the correct item, the id is always unique
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ahh, there is not definate way to get a mobs keywords easily
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: understandable
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i can see how it might make botting a bit too easy
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: thanks cheez :)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: hey cheezburger can I add more arguments to the if (len(words[1]) > len(words[2]) like an "and (len(words[1]) > (len(words[3])" ?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: how can I log output that had been omitted from output window by triggers ? MUSH
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: maybe triggering it yourself and doing Note would work... why not modify the original trigger to not omit it?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: omit from log is a separate setting from omit from output
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so if you're logging, it'll still log omit from output triggers
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: oh, so in case of plugin triggers (spellup, cp info,help etc), that hide info in tags, I should modify original triggers ?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: disabling ANSI_log worked well :)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether to change the triggers depends on whether or not you want them to be logged
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I disabled ANSI_log and all info I wanted to capture appeared
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: seems that ANSI_log just replaced it with blank lines
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where was ANSI_log?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: in 'plugins' folder, it's bundled with Aard MUSH
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, nvm...but I'm surprised that the existence of the ansi log plugin wasn't deprecated with the log raw checkbox
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: as a result I got log with hundreds of blank lines instead of slist info
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm curious what the difference is between logging raw and the ansi log (just not quite curious enough to use MUSHclient long enough to test :P)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: trying the split function i get this message: attempt to call field 'split' (a nil value)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: try using utils.split
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: t = utils.split (test, ",") <- like that
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: right but "," isnt the delimiter it's " "
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I was just mentioning an example
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: q i
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: you should use 'utils.' before 'split'
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: v6.1 release, see the website for info
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://bastmush.googlecode.com
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ugh still getting a ')' expected, tho it is breaking the string up now
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: when it says error [string "trigger: "] :1... it means the problem is on line 1 right
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so using the split function in Mush, opening line is: words=utils.split(%1," "). im getting an error on line 1 saying it expects a ')' after and then it lists the second word from the wildcard that is split off
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so it's getting the string and the delimiter, but throwing an error after the second word and not parsing with the delimiter and moving on to the third word
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: whhyyyyyy
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: "%1"
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ahhhh
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol wow ty
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i knew it was something simple
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so can you extend the if, then, else condition for to include else if's?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: http://tinyurl.com/4f6n4dj
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: witty
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: learned a lot today, thanks guys :)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ugh now im getting attempt to call global 'len' (a nil value)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that line reads: if (len(words[2])) > (len(words[3]))
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: any idea what about that is causing it to not understand the len() function?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Should probably check the length of words. If words[2] or word[3] are nil (that is, there is no entry at index 2 or 3), that's causing your problem :)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: should probably be string.len()
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming that's what you're wanting
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're just checking arguments, you can do if wildcards [1] == false, then echo hey dummy, you didn't tell me what to do...elseif wildcards [1] == "foo" then echo Thanks, I now will do foo (although my echoes are wrong syntax)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the string.len got it, thanks Lei
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: using the utils.split function, is it possible to pass multiple delimiters?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: like " " and "-"
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: have you tried it? I am pretty sure the answer is no, the delimter can only be a length of 1
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: well the outcome of me trying hardly determines whether something is possible or not :-p
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it says one here http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.split
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: anyone know how string.sep handles the pieces it makes?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What is string.sep? Don't think that's in the lua string library.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: what's the symbol for not equal to?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: !=
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mush script
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In lua? ~=
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Depends on what language you're using
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: MUSH doesn't have its own scripting language.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the expression im using is if string.find(string,"-
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: dammit lol
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: string.find(string,"-") != 0
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: or ~=?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: depends on what language you're using...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Like I said, if it's lua, then it's ~=
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But it could be != or <>, depending on your language.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: how do i reference the pieces made from string.split()?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: same way as utils.splt?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: how do i reference the pieces made from string.split()?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: same way as utils.splt?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: word[#] ?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: sorry about the repeat
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: d/c'd
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone has an idea why an alias like get id (xxxxx); wear id; enter; remove id; put id (xxx) doesn't work on mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: xxx is the keynr of the bag, and id is the id number of the portal
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: when i call the alias then, it says No xxxx here.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: when i do it step by step, it works
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: works for me, must be some syntax or id # problem
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: maybe redo it, or go back over it, look for a simple mistake
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: there's no mistake :(
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: if i type for example get id (xxx) without the following part of the trigger, i actually get the portal out of the bag
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: it just doesn't work if i have a stack in the alias
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: like get portal bag, wear portal, enter, remove portal, put portal bag
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ya I got almost the same one for my clan portal
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: mine even removes my dagger and equips it back, since I dont have portal wish slot
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: don't really have to 'remove' anymore, as wearing a "hold" item will force hold it, just have to 'dual weapon' after
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: since lasher changed that a few months back.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: try simplifying it, have it do 1 step, get it to work. then add one more to it.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: nice, thanks for the info vel
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: one less little step in there ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: You don't see a 284108128; wear 485123309; enter
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: ops
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: You don't see a 284108128; wear 485123309; enter; remove 485123309; put 485123309 284108128; where here.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: this is waht i get
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: though the numbers are correct
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: muhahah! now i have your numbers!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: lane what client you using?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: It's not separating the commands, Lane...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: the aardversion
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ahh no help here.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: oh fuck
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: true
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: my dumb mistake lol
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: no ; in aliases :/
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: but new lines lol
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: nvm
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pedwiddle rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: hehe, simple mistake ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lois Lane just SMACKED herself in the forehead, what a dolt.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: 70 alises set up like that
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: we've all fallen for that one
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: hours of time wasted lol
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you can use ; in aliases, but you would have to send them to Execute
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: too complicated for me lol
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i am happy that i can set up a simple alias :P
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: hey on my grafix card cd it says install drivers what all does it install
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: drivers tell the host os how to correctly harness the resources of the hardware
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or in your language: It has the stuff what it is that makes it work proper
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Feral Farkyss has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: It also installs a bunch of crap.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ok so it wont install my sound only the graffix card and the drivers
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Grizzler person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: one would hope so
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all things being correct
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: so its a maybe on the sound?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is it a laptop you've got?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and the CD refers to a graphics card?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ja nvida gforce c.d
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then no, it won't
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are we to assume you have a problem with your sound?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: yeah says i must get a sound driver c.d and i got 1 but it wont install
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: is your pc a brand-name pc, or is a self build?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: intel e force
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: speaking of self-builds, did you hear that Asus is redesigning the cardboard boxes that their motherboards ship in so that they double as computer cases?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they look cool.. but much bigger than a std box? So unlikely you'll see one?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or do they fold out a lot?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they are targeted at "typical home users", so I would imagine the cardboard version would be roughly the same size as the metal-plastic kind.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sounds like a crock of crap to me
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec bought an 12 watt desktop today
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: uhm the sound card a 'sound blaster live 24-BIT'
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 12 w desktop would be a ultra low voltage cpu, onboard everything and compact flash or similar storage, hardly "a desktop"
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is that the CD you have that won't install?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are you running windows, and if so, which windows is it?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: no thats the card name . Windows 7 32-bit
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: first you need to check to see if there is anything currently installed on your pc to do with soundblaster or creative labs and uninstall it
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: do that from control panel in the normal way you'd uninstall a program or game
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: il check
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: then go here: http://support.creative.com/Products/product_list.aspx?catID=1&CatName=Sound+Blaster
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: choose the appropriate product from the list
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it actually doesn't matter if you choose the correct product or not, there is an option for "Use autoupdate" which will automatically detect and install appropriate software for you
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: mxiter no pc internet unfortunatly
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not even on the pc in question'/
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: heh?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if the pc in question has no internet connection, then you won't be able to use autoupdate, but you can note down the web address and borrow a mate's pc with internet access to download the file, stick it on a cd or memory stick and install from that
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or take your pc to a mate whom has internet acecss
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: Farkyss, well, it runs at 12w, runs a monitor at 1600x1200 and has a hard drive. That's 12w average(ish) rather than peak which is a bit higher
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a hard drive on it's own is 12W
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a monitor won't be much less than 20W
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: not if it's a 2.5 in hard drive
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 2.5" drives are around 2W
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and I agree, I wasn't including the display, although you can get them less than that, but yes
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec nods
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they are all getting better at efficiency, but typically the ultra low power stuff is still pretty crappy performance
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec shrugs
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, if I want performance, I'll use the 32 core cluster with more memory than I can count
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most people's graphics cards use more than 12W :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol tried to make an alias that's supposed to accept 3 words, compare their lengths, set a variable as the longest one and then "say" the variable. i give it aaa bb c as tests, it returns say cccc. o.O
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: so the download for my sound how much MB or what ever do you think it is round about?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: probably 50mb or so
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: okey
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: insane
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wouldn't try downloading on a 3g network
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: my 3g network fast with my moms sim card in it
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mush, is there a function to dump the contents of a variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what do you mean by dump?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: erase all the data stored there
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: pickle
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: but keep the variable
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: oh, var=nil
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: variables only have two features, assignment and reading.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so SetVariable('var',nil) ?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: no that threw an error lol, string exptected, got nil (cuz that's what i gave it muahaha ahem)
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Then do SetVariable(var, "")
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that's what i had before
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: SetVariable('var',"") does not seem to work
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mistress Khelda Tech: Can anyone answer a couple of *very simple questions about the MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mistress Khelda Tech: wonderful! ok, I installed it, and wanted to set up an alias... but when I clicked on help, then Index, I got the msg 'unable to open help file, move the file to a different drive and retry.'
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mistress Khelda Tech: I only use one drive on my machine... does that mean a different directory?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: do you use Windows Vista or 7?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mistress Khelda Tech: Win 7
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mistress Khelda Tech: you think it might be an admin issue?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: it is not uac, that type of help is deprecated
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: issue is known and the workarounds detailed on mush site
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you need to install the windows helpviewer, which you can get from your install disk or from Windows Update
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mistress Khelda Tech: ah, ok. thank you!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mistress Khelda Tech: I remember running up against this with another software... will do. Thanks again!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Quick question here, is it possible to check if crontab function already exists, if not add it, via a shell script, which is activated by a php script?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: For example, has this crontab already run today, if not run it, if it already exists, ignore it, by clicking this link on this website
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Trying to setup the newest mushclient Aard version here. Can anyone think why I would have "{coords}0,30,20" showing up after every room title with a default setup?
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: help tags
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Thanks.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I don't have a clue how that ended up enabled.
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Some plugins, when they are installed, will enable various tags
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I suppose that surely makes sense. Thanks again!
T3/r3/2011-03-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sure thing
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what's a good way to make sure that a user can mount a cd rom drive?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: a group? a privilege? what?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: put user,owner into the mount flags in fstab
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, ok.. added... not sure though as to why, but it didnt work
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn. since my end goal is just to listen to a cd.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe i should focus on getting cd paranoia to read the cd, instead of getting my user to
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: okay. i'm gonna get a headache, now root can't even mount the disc
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah.. isn't that nice.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my audio just cut out
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: time to go back to my livecd again ^_^ laters all
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't suppose anyone knows how to switch office 2007's dictionary to English?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Uh, think you can do it in options... uhm, under tools I think
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Like.. Under spelling there O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I'm just guessing :|
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: HEY CLERICS! I COULD USE A HEAL! Legend of Venomangel has begun to sing.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I think that only sets the language you work in tho... O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: tehre are no options any more
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Heh? Did you break it :|
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, ok, think I found it
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: let's hope it stays set
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Legend of Venomangel begins to yodel: HEY!! CLERICS!! I COULD USE A HEAL!!!
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Yay!
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why it can't pull the default language from system settings I don't know, it's not like Microsoft made both the Office and the OS... Oh, wait, they did
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I see a lot of that, program and website vendors automatically assuming americanese layout/structure for everything, even if the site/program is supposed to be tailored for another country
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Yeah. Typical O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: now if only zugg were to have released an English dictionary module for Zmud, we'd be getting somewhere
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: Anyone have experience with remote DOD wiping of machines on local network?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: I currently emulate floppy and initiate the wipe using gdisk - this works fine, but looking for a few other things
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: looking for a way to do this with a result echoed out to a network location
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: assuming thats a no
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sorry :(
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: its ok, my google-fu returned 0 results as well
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm trying to make some custom colors to highlight certain strings, but its changing all the colors for typed commands, etc. Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: for instance I want inverted red, i made the custom color, but when i enter my portal it changes THAT text to inverted red to...
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: how do i use basts' planesmob plugin? there is no help file for it.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plookup
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: well hello bast, thank you :)
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is there a way / command to call the definition of a mushclient alias into the window?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: if I have comm.quest as a gmcp trigger pattern for cmud, would would this work. #ADDKEY QuestDB.area %gmcp.comm.quest.area add a value to the key area?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ya it would work
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: -4
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: hmmmm wonder why my trig isn't working then...
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is your trigger set to gmcp?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nod...
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ah I see
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: gmcp doesn't send comm.quest when you request a quest.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: but it sent it when i failed the quest.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the trigger syxtax is off sorry -.- should be #addkey qp_goal_DB area %gmcp. data
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bugger. when did HP stop posting service manual pdfs of their laptops on their websites?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: when they started selling them
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they had them there up until at most 6 months ago
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so no
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was one of the major pluses of them/compaq
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that's a poor old do
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: another paperweight to go on the fire :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quado Tech: I can't remember how to set this certain type of tab browsing.. #2 key would tab right and #1 would tab left in web browsing, anybody know which browser this was and how to set it? (maybe opera?)
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gast Tech: Does anyone run the MushClient from a DropBox folder?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I tried to use unison for mine
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: nowadays I just sync part of it
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unison is jolly nice
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in the end, though, the key problem is that I want different set ups on different machines -- different plugins, different miniwindow locations and so on
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gast Tech: I'm looking to have the same setup on multiple machines 8^)
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can see vm's in my future when i'm forced to upgrade my os
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: do you have the same size screen on all your machines?
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gast Tech: No, but I want to keep everything sync
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gast Tech: No, but I want to keep everything sync'ed. Resizing windows isn't too big of a deal for me.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, I suspect you don't myself, but it's up to you:-)
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: but dropbox should work fine, unles you get a conflict in which case, well, all bets are off
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gast Tech: DropBox does seem to handle conflicts pretty good. I've been using it for years for normal documents without any issues.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: dropbox doesn't handle conflicts -- it just reports them -- in practice they don't occur too often, esp if all your machines autostart the daemon
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in MUSH, i need to check if a group is enabled. is there a function for this? help only lists Enable and Delete Group functions
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple players that have mush running from dropbox...I know redryn does
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: meh, can't figure out what i did to my sound config to make it stop sounding
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wy dsp won't let me dd towards unto it
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and the sound works fine from the livecd ^_^
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but... not from here
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and it worked on monday.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no new kernels, no new softwares.
T3/r3/2011-03-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: Any CMUD gurus around? Just beginning to map and setting up city-outerworld zones/portals, could use some general advice...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: more specifically; town gates' transitions to overworld map
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: Seastrike click on the help menu on your map and select zones, it gives a fairly good explanation of how zones can be linked.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: once you understand the general technique, you can start doing it manually, if you have to.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: So... my idea so far is that on the overworld map/zone any town entrance with say, 4 cardinal entrances, would be symbolized by a missing room surrounded by 4 portals that lead to the town's n, w, e, s entrances to the town zone. ...unless there is a simpler technique?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: that's one way, for visual ease I do have a room object at that location on a striking color, so looking at the continent map let's me see zone locations at a glance.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: but having a "hole" there is quite reasonable.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: one advantage of the dummy room is that you can hover over it and it will display it's title which I happen to set to the area name.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: yeah, I could see that working very well. Esp since you really only need one entrance for a town/area anyhow. The town exits can easily be ported to that colored dummy room. Thanks!!
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Anyone have any experience with jailbroken ipod touches?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ipod douches?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: not quite, Seastrike. The exits from the area are connected to the rooms around the dummy room. The dummy room is not connected at all. There is really nothing there.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: and while it is true that there might only be one way out of the area, there are, in most cases, an inbound connection from each room in the continenet surrounding the area, not always true, but in general.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the easiest way to set it up is one way exit out of the area, and one way exits from the continents.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlayerMark Tech: is there a reason to why i was able to hunt my quest mob?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: you can always hunt your quest mob, but not cp or gq targets
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlayerMark Tech: i failed quite a few of my quests cause i thought i couldnt hunt quest mobs.Lol
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Lol
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: "The Radeon 6990 that was first mentioned a few days back is now out in the open for all the PC gaming world to drool over. Its actually a bit beefier than anyone was expecting it to be, too, sporting 4GB of RAM (2GB per GPU) and a total of five video outputs. Unfortunately, it draws enough power to rival that of your refrigerator. Youll need 375w of juice at a bare minimum 450w if you really want to push the card to its limits. Its not a cheap piece of gear, either, at a staggering $699."
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: video card from hell.. to play text based mmporg !
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: All I can say is that it better make my movies project into my mind at that damn price.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: can get a decent PC for that much
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: err desktop
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is it possible to force cmud to show the gmcp outputs that are sent, whenever they are sent?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I mean, when the mud sends a gmcp message
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: #SHOW %line off the GMCP trigger. Can use * as the pattern to have it show every gmcp output.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: I knew what you meant. I've done it several times myself.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: If someone passes a null value in to a Set property for C#, how can you default that to 0, inside of the set part of the property
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: property/variable is of type double
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in a mushclient trigger, is it possible to enable and disable other triggers?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, there are script functions for that
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient uses trigger groups like zmud uses classes
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i think the function is EnableTriggerGroup()
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Lost Vagus, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's really nice. Do you know the command to do it off the top of your head or shall i google the .... you rock.. i'll try that
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: here is a list of functions for triggers: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?searchfor=trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: above and beyond.. thanks all 3 of you
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mushclient comes with help files, click on Help and Function List
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it damned well does!
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: EnableTrigger() can do invidual ones, EnableTriggerGroup() can do groups
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: one last question... what language are mush triggers in? LUA?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can choose
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatever language you choose, really
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: multi-
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it ships, lua is default
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in general settings, you choose default language...then plugins can choose on their own, so you can have a perl-based plugin, etc
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but triggers on their own (not in plugin) must use the default language
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i had been looking for that under individual triggers.. not in different menu section.. thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is there a way to test if a group is enabled or not? like with an if/then?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: GetTriggerInfo
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Will do it for individual ones, at least
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ahh ok so if GetTriggerInfo('trigger') == true
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: choose one trigger in the group as representative. It would need "maybe" reply if you wanted whole group :)
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No, Vagus. Check the helpfile. There are dozens of options
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: not exactly, read docs for GetTriggerInfo
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ook
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: did something happen about the aardwolf mushclient? I can see the tags and the map on the upper left of the screen now displays on the main window.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try exiting and restarting it
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: unfortunately I've done it a couple of times already. I'll try redownloading maybe
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do i pull a single key-value pair out of a db record in cmud, so i can use it in a json string?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filion Tech: can please one tell me how to make a basic alias like: cast 'magic missile' arget
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: try help alias?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: aardwolf has simple client side aliases that can be set by typing alias
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filion Tech: i need a variable and i do not know the syntax on mushclients
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ebullient Etzli Tech: Not client side, mudside.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli pats Lost Vagus on his head.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea meant mudside said client
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you have a mudside alias called mm that does: cast 'magic missile'
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then if you do mm fido, then it'll cast magic missile on fido
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ebullient Etzli nods at Leinei.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: exactly
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anything more complicated than that, you'd have to do in your client.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filion Tech: but if you wanna make a "mini script" on client side?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ctrl+shift+9 opens the alias editor window
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: then you go read the documentation for the client and come back with more specific questions after you make a useful attempt
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filion Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filion Tech: how do you clear mudsided aliases?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: unalias ...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030 could help you start
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: for the alias do ^cmm(.*?)$, and then for the send have c 'magic missile'%1
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't need to make a regex alias for something that simple...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just put "mm", and don't check the regex box
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, mm *
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: regex doesn't matter
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No, but it makes it a lot simpler to write if you don't use it when you don't need it
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you really don't need a client side alias for spell aliases
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i stick all of those mudside and save client side for complex stuuff
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: regex doesn't matter.. it doesn't add any complexity behind the scenes
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: if anything should get used to using it
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filion Tech: one last thing, when i use the mushclient, a lot of times the first time i give a command, the mud won't respond
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You have to get past the Message of the Day screen (help motd) before you can enter any commands.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lost Vagus is agreeing with that Leinei person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: anyone uses d2jsp here?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that just gave me a flashback to an old free compiler
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: any linux users online?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Nah, we were all banned.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: anyone know how i use gmcp in cmud for automapper at all?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: like this *#$)P#$_#(*$$
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: did that help?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: as well you should be! just kidding, I'm having a really weird issue. With kernel update 2.whatever-27 (i forget teh exact numbers), I'm having weird issues with some fonts. First, the number 9 in all instances (in my panel, in web browsers) was showing up as a black box...I booted into a diff kernel load, 2.whatever-25, and it works just fine.....I reboot back into the -27 version, and the 9's show up fine but some S letters in youtube comments are blocky.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in cmud, you just open up the mapper. Boom, done.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: boom. headshot.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks....does not appear to be working for me....
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you in safe mode?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I am not
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: slow mode doesn't work with gmcp due to bugs
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ok. i am in safe mode.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in the GMCP tab of Protocols preferences, do you have the various packages included? Room, comm, char, etc?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: yeah...but i originally started automapper in an older version which did not have GMCP
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: did you have any older maps from that version
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: shouldn't matter so long as GMCP is turned on.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: ?*
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: i did not. GMCP is on....hmmmm...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: need to change some of the settings to use mud vnum as well
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: sorry for my paragraph, anyone have any ideas what is causing my issue?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I forgot to mention I'm on ubuntu 10.10, running through Wubi (installed inside windows)
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: bid
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know why i can't connect via wired connection to my network on my ubuntu comp?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: When i installed Ubuntu on it last time i had to connect via wired, to download the correct utilities, but i can't even do that.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It doesn't detect the connection at all
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ifconfig
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What about it?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: cheezburger type ifconfig at console whats it tell you about your interface
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's not showing any
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: o.O
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: UP LOOPBACK RUNNING
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hm
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Not detecting your network card?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well, normally i have to compile the rtl8188ce driver, but i was able to use wired internet to at least get it and build_essentials last time
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: try something like this and see what it says ifconfig eth0 192.168.44.128 netmask 255.255.255.0
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: if it says make me a sandwich, you win
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and i assumed you tried restarting networking service?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: SIOCSCIFADDR: Permission denied
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: how rude
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: SIOCSCIFADDR: Permission denied;eht0: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device;SIOCSIFNETMASK: Permission denied
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Sorry, truncated
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: su !!
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: oh nevermind
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: unknown id: ifconfig
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah, it doesn't recognize your nic
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: get root
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its not root, its denied because theres no such hardware address
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well wtf, how can i get the driver for it without build_essential to compile it...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Last time i at least had wired internet...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Did it recognize it with the livecd?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you have any drives?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i have the rtl8188ce driver
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no usb or cd or anything?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: well, rtl8192ce, but it included 8188
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well... you could open the source for the build essentials and transcribe it manually
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have USB nod, but i don't have the capabilities with this comp i'm using to get all the dependancies for build_essential
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus chuckles politely.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: how cant you if you're on the internet?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: School's computer.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: proxpn
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: can't
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: balls ferguson key lime pie
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: did you try kicking it?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it sometimes works
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm...would the fact that i apparently used my 32 bit disc instead of my 64 bit change anything about wired networking?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Any ideas of how i can do this?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Tried copying all the .deb files over via usb, not working
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: q r
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: bah
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can post the content of /etc/network/interfaces
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: how many interfaces do you see when you do ifconfig -a?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 1
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lo only
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, so your wired device currently isn't loaded
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can post output of sudo lshw -C network
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: the whole thing? its alot
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I do see an unclaimed ethernet controller..
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: post it to pastebin
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i need the product and the driver in the line thats starts with configuration
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: pastebin blocked..
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there are a lot of pastebins lol
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: http://paste2.org/new-paste
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: http://codepad.org/t0gOzTkL
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Bah!
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I notice they all have 64 bit width..
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So it IS the 32 bit disc messing with it..
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Damnit, afk to search for that 64 bit disk
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No wonder i couldn't find it, i forgot to label the dick
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: disk i mean
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that tattoo would hurt
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Indeed
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yeah, having 64 bit tattoo would be a great conversation starter
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Check my tat bro -- wtf you unbuttoning your pants...
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So do we agree that the issue was 64 bit pointers on a 32 bit system?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: before i install a new system yet again :P
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what did you do with the 32 bit disk? its not supposed to be installed in the first place
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i mean it would say something like architecture error
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I used my 32 bit because i wanted 10.04 not 10.10, and had 64 10.10 and 32 10.04
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Would have left my system as-is, but the damn windows partition i installed it inside of (via wubi) was eating up too much space since i never used the windows part at all.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Running 64 bit live disk right now to see if it detects wired interface.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: God, live disks are slow though
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im confused... are you trying to install a 32bit OS to a 64-bit machine?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Screwed up
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Thought the 10.04 version was the 64 bit, and the 10.10 version was the 32 bit. It was the opposite
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Immediately recognizes wired interface, bah, so simple a solution
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: live cds are loaded with drivers :D
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: thanks for the help guys :)
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, what am i missing--> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'. Stop.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Got build-essentials, i didn't remember needing anything else.
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: huh is your worth
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: anyone tried charneus's id script for cmud before?
T3/r3/2011-03-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: 0h 29
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I just downloaded a plugin... how do I install it?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: file, plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: then go to the plugin you want
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cannot find a file for plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: oh, duh
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: why does my mush not have that top menu row?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: make sure the plugin you downloaded is in the right place O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: lol file stands on top by the menubar
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea I know... but for some reason I dont have that top row of menu things like file, view, edit etc...
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: try redownloading mush... i had the same problem a few months ago
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Sometimes when you turn on fullcreen mode, then disable it, it can do that.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: finger bast... he has most of the plugins one needs in one folder
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: turn fullscreen mode off, then close your client and re-open.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea it only does this in full mode
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: but it does it on all my comps
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: it's suppose to go away in fullscreen, but it's also suppose to come back when you return to normal
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea it comes back
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: but now instead of my file menu options, I see my desktop up there
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Huh?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cuz if I dont do full screen, I cant see the bottom rows of game
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Resize your minwindows?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its just all messed up
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Weird.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it does this on every computer I have it on, too
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: What OS?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: xp
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: anyone have experience with this pquaff plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: im trying to get it to automatically quaff if I get below 1000 hp
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Sorta
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Eh
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I use it, but not for auto quaffage.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: In fact, unless you have a dif version of pquaff than I do, it doesn't do anything like that.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: It tracks your pots and gives you alias setups for quaffing and purchasing.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: someone told me there's a plugin that auto quaffs if under set hp
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I dunnoz. I'm sure there is, somewhere.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I cant even get this pquaff to work right with healer's ballad
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it wont accept it as the variable
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: this is freakn retarded
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlayerMark Tech: who or whats retarded
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: this pquaffer plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I'm using "healpot = healer's ballad
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: then pots to set it
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and when I do healpot command... "no heal pots left"
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Try just 'ballad'
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Or whatever the keyword for the pot actually is.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: not at all
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: not even for my cheesy nachos
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: im just gonna remove that plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: any idea why im having to keep explore areas some areas Not all when i reinstall mush I am moving my db and world files over
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone got a clue as to why i have to reexplore some areas (not all) with the gmcp mapper for mush after i reinstall. I backup and transfer the db and bookmark db file and the world file
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: is there a way to have a alias open up a web browser?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: anyone know a way to auto quaff a potion when ur hp gets below a certain amt?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: not sure thats legal
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not think it is either.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its legal
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did you ask an imm?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no reason it would be ilegal...
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and there are a few plugins... I just cant get the stupid things to work
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but theoretically there are a few ways to do it. the easiest is to set up an "if" trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: u can make an "if" TRIGGER?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: #if @hpleft<1000 {quaff pot}
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: like "if %gmcp.char.vitals.hp < 1000 then world.send "quaff heal"?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: something like that
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: is that how u make an if statement in triggers? with the #?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but you also need to disable it right after fire until you get "you feel better" phrase
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: else you'll go into a loop
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: thats the notation for zmud. from the looks of it you're using mush
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but read policies7 before making such a trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: and the trigger pattern would be your prompt
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: * Heal when HP drops to given percent/value and let aggressive mobs attack.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: so as long as you dont let aggroes attack, you *may* be fine. but its a borderline script
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: however this line If you are unsure of whether or not triggers you have made would be
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: however this line If you are unsure of whether or not triggers you have made would be
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: considered botting, ask yourself, "If I suddenly had to leave the screen ;tech in an emergency, would the macros/triggers that I have running leave me ;tech gaining something and unable to respond?" If the answer to that question
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: is yes, you should turn them off.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: sorry for spam 0.o
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but technically that statement makes it seem like such script would be illegal. if you had to leave your pc in an emergency after charging a room, the script would keep you alive and fighting for as long as there are mobs
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I dont think an auto heal script while fighting would be that
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cuz if u leave... ur not fighting and it wont evem trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: nod you'd need a very specific set of circumstances for it to happen
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: madcatz seems to be on, time to consult the imms =)
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I dont think if tatements can even be triggers
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: no if statement cant be a trigger, but you can have a trigger with if statement
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone know if there is a way to make a alias bring up a web browser
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: that didnt make any sense
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i believe so rai
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: i mean, i dont think triggers can be if statements
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: make an alias with #URL http://www.zuggsoft.com/ in it
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: sry i mean in mush forgot to mention that *stupid me*
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: mmm sorries zmud here... it might work in mush though
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i wish i could have gotten the mapper to work in cmud
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: damacius, make a trigger with pattern for your prompt and battleprompt. inside that trigger you can place an "if" statement.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: it will trigger every time, but will do something only when the if condition is met (or not, depending on how you set it up)
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: u mean like in the little boxes under the fight?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: like [1600/2609hp etc.... area?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: this is sooo frustrating me...
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: nods that would be the pattern
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but i'd look something like [%d/%dhp etc...
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: erm ~[%d~/%dhp etc...
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: to capture the variables
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: what is % to u? wildcard?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: %d, wildcard for numbers
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: for mush too?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: with the gmcp mapper is there a way to sent it to like Enter opening and such comands i know it can do c exits but what about thoes
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: well sweet thing how would that be
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Mapper cexit open and then stack that with the direction :P
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Its how I do it :|
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: im talking about like a portal thats in the room
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: not like a door
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: a portal in a room?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: then its like mapper cexit enter portal/whateveryouwanttoenter
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: for example umm in wobbly woes you have to enter crack
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akhenaton Tech: anyone using zmud-color syntax ?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: anyone know how to use this autohealer thing? or the autosipper?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: anyone know a working auto-quaff so I dont have to worry bout watching my health bar when in battle?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: is there a trigger or something to remind me to quest
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: No prompt?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i dont always see that little message
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: In your prompt you have #qt.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I believe bast has a quest popup type plugin.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: you could always trigger off the quest message
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: yes i dont alwats see that message...
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: to send a message to gtell or something else
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: how i dont know how to make triggers lol
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: You could even make it play a sound when it triggers off the message.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: It's pretty easy to make a basic trigger, read the help file.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: consult your client's helpfile
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i read help trigger i dont know how... im on mush
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Don't read the mud's help file, read the mush help file.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: it says failed to launch help
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: try the mush website then, the helps are there too
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i cant go intto anything listed in help
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: must do 2 things for the helps to work on vista or windows 7...(1) install the windows help viewer, since neither ships with it, and (2) do a get info and take off the restrictions on a downloaded file
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 has the help viewer
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click mushclient.hlp, do properties, then click on "unblock" at the bottom
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: all of a sudden i cant go into windows explorer... lol
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's also how to get it to stop saying "are you sure you want to run xxx" when you double-click on mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: if i have an alias... like run ... watch game (custum exit to chessboard) in mushclient, why doesn't aardwolf recognize "watch game", but returns "There is no game within Aardwolf."?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: remove the trailing space
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: have it working now
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: didn't know mushclient is so space sensitive :P
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient isn't, aardwolf is
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: what trigger do people use these days to not idle out?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i was wondering that myself
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Every half an hour, send a blank line. Problem solved.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I just trigger on the eyes glaze over message and send SCORE.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: your eyes glaze over trigger fire skills dodge
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: ACTION {Your eyes glaze over.}={#cr}
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: 30min = #wa
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: eyes still gaze over?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: I can't get mana values to display in my prompt... all other values work fine. Ideas?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: your client is interpreting the prompt placeholder for mana as something special
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: CMUD
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: simply use ` as the first character on the command line when issuing your prompt command.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: ok I will try that first. ....should I just switch to GMCP?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the ` equates to the use of double-quotes
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: gmcp has nothing to do with this issue.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: ' is showing up as literal
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you used the wrong character
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: look above the tab key
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you want the backwards quote that's on the tilde key.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: thanks works!
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: ...I wonder why tho, lol
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: everytime i try to run any kind of .exe im getting a 'open with' prompt, any idea wtf is going on?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: something hijacked your association? Should stop looking at those kinds of videos.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: barring that, part of your security package saved you from an attack and in so doing messed up that part of your OS.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or, if not your security, something on the drive is going bad and just randomly failed in this manner. Might not be anything more serious than a reinstall/obscure and painstaking fix, or it could be real hardware-wearing-out stuff.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: so what am i reinstalling (please dont say the entire os) and is there anything i can point .exe files to 'open with' that will just allow them to run?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seastrike Tech: as a guess, if running win, you could investigate using a restore point. It may fix your registry/file associations.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: when I ran into such problems, I just did a reinstall since there were already other issues that needed fixing or I didn't know how to fix the specific problem.
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know the name of the ebuild in gentoo's portage which allows one to pull in most of the kde files all at once?
T3/r3/2011-03-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: snewb yes....
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yay, found the service manual, Google ftw (for once)
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hissing coming from the inverter, then screen goes blank altogether. what do you reckon, faulty inverter, or faulty ccfl?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: powerline adaptors and plug and play. yeaaah right
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what have I learnt today? Powerline adaptors = heap of crap
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: using bast 4.51 and i was writing a note and my map kind of stalled so i closed out and restarted and now all my little windows are deaded anyone know how to restore?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: got it back.. =I
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Apple announce a new mp3 player and step counter for joggers - called iPedo
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: so downloading a song can be an ipedo file?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: wish the aardmud client had buttons :(
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine does
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Buttons for what?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: wish the aardmud client had buttons :(
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: wish the aardmud client had buttons :(
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: wish the aardmud client had buttons :(
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: wish the aardmud client had buttons :(
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: STOP SPAMMIGN!!!!!!
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: I said sorry dude
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: was an accident
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nobody panic!
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: okay its making me lag
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: I was spamming up to my last command and got moving to fast and scrolled twice..sorry about that
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: its okay
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: What buttons were you asking about?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: on my android device I use blowtorch and it has the ability to add a screen button to add commands to.. the aardwolf client does not
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient can, just not super easy I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I believe there are plugins for buttons. Bast's, perhaps?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: I'll look into that
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush can create buttons, not very easy is all :p
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: I find the buttons helpful for complex stuff I don't like retyping like some equipment search filters and such
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: does anyone know the command to toggle bast's spellup miniwindow?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I had to install minwintabbar to make it show up, Vagus.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is there a way to set up an alias for the "mapper find " command in the aardmushclient version?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: like mf for mapper find?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: you can change the alias in the plugin xml file
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: As a normal alias, but send to execute.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: if i do it in the common way, it doesn't work. i guess it's because a client side command?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or that.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Someone tell her to make an alias and have it send to execute
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav points at himself, obviously very confused.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: probably "cleaner" to do what Jhav mentioned then editting the mapper plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at Jhav.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so you won't lose your alias if you upgrade the mapper plugin to a newer version
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elvendar noddles in total agreement at Gonf.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: i gave up trying :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, it would be cleaner to edit the plugin so you don't have an alias that just calls another alias :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's less concise though
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Since it's not as permanent
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: it breaks a plugin is in constant development from Fiendish, I'd rather have a wrapper
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: a wrapper makes it not clean though :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd rather have that too, as you said it won't get overwritten when you update, but it's certainly not cleaner :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there any way to use mouse keys if your keyboard does not have a num lock key?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you want to use your mouse as a numpad?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, he wants to use his keyboard as a mouse
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: So basically assign key2 holddown as numlock key?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sort of, i know that microsoft has keyboard mouse, but you have to have a numlock on your keyboard to use it which i do not have
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: How come you don't have a numlock key?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: playing on a laptop?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a laptop, but it may have a "soft" numlock key using the function key
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffled Salvanas seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: its not a full keyboard, its on mylabtop which my touchpad went out, and i have not gone through my storage to find my real mouse i thought it would be easier to do it this way
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: usually fn
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: if you have a fn-numlock, that works... left alt left + shift + fn + "numlock" ?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont have fn numlock sadly =/
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: use ctrl-esc and tab, and just turn it on from the control panel then?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: got it thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: ... btw, i'm assuming that being on a laptop, you have a separate numpad, yes? otherwise, mousekeys might be a little pointless...
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: nope its all fn keys, i just do not want to go to my storage and pull my mouse out
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: ouch. well, good luck with it then.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: Help! I tried out a client (didn't like it), and it borked up my aard settings. How to I turn off what I think is 'tag spam'? it looks like {stats}82/47,60/40 (bunch more numbers) You are standing (more numbers)
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: statmon
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mmm, statmon, yummy
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: thanks. :) now to see if my "pagesize will work again".
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: Ok. Next problem it made. The game is ignoring my 'pagesize' and will dc me if do say.. 'note list'. :(
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: What's your current pagesize?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: what happens is that it scrolls and scrolls, and I'm assuming aard drops me due to flooding.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the game can't ignore your pagesize...
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: it says 25 under the 'auto' setting
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you sure it's not set to 0?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do "note list", do "note list 15" to list the last 15
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: note list should still page correctly though, abe.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: checked again, used 'auto', at the bottom it says "pagesize 25"
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: hmm, 25 should be fine for most connections...
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: when I do 'note list' on ideas, it dies on 11492. not
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Very few clients can handle note list on ideas
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: very few can't handle it with pagesize 25 though...
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Cheez, her paging is set to 25 though, it should page it.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: This is true
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: my atlantis does on my mac here
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: What Client, btw?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Really lum? Nice.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: I went back to black and white telnet. was trying out mudlet.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: atlantis is nasty
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have to manually configure my client before i update and compile to make it handle it :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: mac only though
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: ah. for some reason changing my pagesize and setting it back to 25 turned it back on.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: heh, no one at that level? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Well, that ended well anyway. :)
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: now to get rid of the leftover tags.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Still no idea why that pagesize was misreporting/not-working though
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags off
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: I blame the client. using the default 'play aard' it didn't even let me log on!
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: thanks everyone. it seems to be back to normal now.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: using zmud. I'd like to have VLC sit partially on top of it to watch a movie. that(always on top option) doesn't seem to work. would it be possible to make a transparent/empty zmud window, so I could basically put VLC behind zmud but still see it?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what about a video card that handles two independent monitors
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: . o O ( ) Habasi looks at Xyliz, jaw hanging around his knees.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: that's not an option
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i tried out muchclient from aard and now am using the old mushclient again, there seems to be extra spaces between the room name map and exits lines, is this something to do with how the other client set things up here?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: http://pastebin.com/V71X2d12
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: 3 above 7 below
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: that looks alot different than what it was before i experimented with aards mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i turned tags off, which setting dictates how much whitespace there is?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Precia Tech: 'compact' perhaps?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: compact didn't affect the whitespace for hte map
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: that's only for the prompt
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: maybe it didn't change and i'm just imagining things, it looks different though
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i'm guessing some internal game variables were changed for the mapper and would like to reset those to non-mapper settings
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: for parsing
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: anyone able to help with the mapper in the aardclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: cant seem to get the old ultima zone purged so the new sendhia can map properly
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Anyone familiar with Cmud know why an #exect is just echoing commands and not sending them?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what is #exact? it's not in the documentation...
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: err, sorry i mean exec
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What command(s) are you trying to send?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: it is a walk path, so like sttng;;run es
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: It use to work properly, now it just echos onto the screen, and i have to copy/paste it, i think i might of moved it around and something is fucked up
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You're using this in a trigger, or an alias, or...?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: In a macro
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what exactly is echoing?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is it the command itself or is it the entire #exec and all?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: the command itself, not the #exec commandstuff
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: So if the macro should do #exec run 2s, it will echo 2s
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it echoes 2s, or run 2s?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: have you tried %alias() instead? I think #exec might be disallowed in macros or something.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it just echoes 2s, sounds like you have an alias on run that's interfering
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: it exchos what it should be sending to the mud
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: ugh, stupid tyo, it echos what it should send to the mud
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No, #exec works in macros, I just tested it.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try #send instead perhaps?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ^what I was thinking
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: hmm, good idea
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone ever used the Newtonsoft.json.dll file in a program to read in json strings?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there some other code in your macro? It works fine for me. What version are you using?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: I'm using 3.33a pro, and yeh, there is kind of a lot of code that could be fucking it up otuside of what i'm telling you :)
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Probably a conflict with it somewhere. Cmud can be really stupid sometimes, and I have no idea why.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Ahh yeh, send does work, but it sends the commands to the mud, and doesn't parse out client side aliases
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well it's probably an issue with the alias then, not the #exec...and your reluctance to tell us what the other code outside of what you're telling us is makes it sound like you're doing something illegal, btw :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Put you alias and run commands on separate lines? That's what I'd do, I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the reason why typically ends up being that the user is attempting something they aren't really supposed to be doing in the first place.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: It isn't that i'm reluclent, it is just a basic room name look up and run to that room when a macro is pressed, but some of the code has been passed to me and I don't think i could do a good job explain some of the code that goes over my head
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: But you guys did give me some good ideas to what to look into, thank you
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: does anyone have a problem with the aardwolf mushclient? Mine's crashing after 200k lines are in the buffer
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's best not to use code you don't understand. That's like listening to someone like Escobar when he suggests you COMB HAIR.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you want to copy/paste the code into a note (if the lines aren't too long) I can look at it. Or send it to my email address.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: So I'm assuming you've got your own client that you coded yourself, right, Dokkar?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: today's word must be facetious.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: I'm pretty sure it's pretentious
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: On the subject of cmud, does anyone know of some simple lua scripts for cmud? I want to learn lua, but I seem unable do it from a guide or manual. I need something to dissect and work off of.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's no real reason to use LUA at all. It's not like it's going to port over to any other client without a major rework, anyways.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Mmm. I actually use Javascript myself for Mush, rather than Lua. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and since there's no real reason to use it, there's no pressure on learning how to do things from the ground up with very simple examples like in the helpfiles.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I thought lua was more efficient than zscript?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: at storing tables, yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: LUA's builders took to data storage like Java took to OOP.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (which is funny, because Java's primitives AREN'T objects...)
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they can be ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some may not know whether Java took to OOP
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Dokkar, how do you name your area speedwalk aliases?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I.e. what convention or scheme do you use?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I use one alias named runto, which is deliberately designed to supercede the mud command of the same name
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmm, ok.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that alias figures out the possible list of areas specified (demanding a choice made by me when necessary), then looks up in a db-module database the details of the area and determines if I can walk to the entrance or not (using the #WALK command if I can).
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you use #walk? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: of course, much of all that is modularized across different events, functions, etc so the actual runto alias is relatively small.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #walk sends the directions one at a time...better to parse it into the mud run command imo
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #walk sends the directions based on the speedwalking mode. In fast and safe mode, all directions are sent first.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know, but it sends them individually
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're going 2nw, it will send n, n, w, in every speedwalking mode
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i take the .2nw from the %walk command and parse it into run 2nw, and send that
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't see that as needful, though.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's faster :P
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: my point exactly
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: based on what I might possibly need speedwalking for, on my end, Aardwolf is already many days too slow for me to bother eeking out another several seconds.
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: EEK
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: ok this is annoying. i have used mapper purgezone on both ultima and sendhia and i still get a merged ultima/sendhia map in the area using mushclient 4.72 and 336 rev of the aardclient. anyone have a clue?
T3/r3/2011-03-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: ok found the problem. prior to 371 of aardclient you need to close and re-open mush to get purgezone to do its thing
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Gritznakka Tech: has anyone done a version of ninja/atreidess's fight evaluator script that works with the current group output?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Overdrive Tech: Wich websites can i find good plugins for Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: hmmm...i cant seem to get mushclient to play a sound on a trigger....
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: is the script line: sound (example\dir\file.wav) correct?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It should. At times, it does not like sounds for some reason.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: heh...got it to work with the playsound command...
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: where do i go to roll back to a restore point?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: heh, this laptop has so far taken 9 hours to defrag, and no sign of it finishing yet
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: anyone able to help with the aardclient mapper and purgezone command?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bast, fiendish might
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: afraid not :(
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayo Tech: Sup all
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hey
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GhostSoul goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayo Tech: Any linuc users ever tried KildClient?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thayo Tech: linux, even
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can i do IF..ELSE... statements in Lua scripting?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool... i'll see what i can do with it. thnks
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mush, I'm using the utils.split() function and need to check if the word[3] has a value or is nil. what function would achieve this?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thanks! now I have a ST:TNG alias that will use different portals according to a switch
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use if wildcards [3] == false then
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to ensure that the 3rd argument exists
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: thanks abe
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know how to write the wildcard stuff. So, I have a crude alias setup. lol
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is that the equiv of an args[3] ?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in other languages
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well thanks again.. that's going to be useful
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't use mushclient, but have written a couple pretty tiny plugins for it for friends...since they're small & simple, they're pretty easy to read to see how to use arguments and get gmcp data
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. it's got a nice learning curve.. especially if you can find examples.. which are plentiful
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what do you use instead?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm an old-school geek, so I use tinyfugue :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i cna't find a screen shot of it to save my life :D
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a screen shot of what?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Screenshot of what?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: google images!
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: of what tinyfugue even looks like
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue is a command-line client...there's no screen to shoot ;-)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at you in agreement.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i guessed as much, i just wanted to see how command line :)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: completely
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for me, it looks like a putty window when on Windows, like a terminal.app window on MacOS, and like a touchterm screen on my ipad
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Looks like a gnome-terminal on mine :P
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a command I type into a NetBSD box
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.igormud.org/g_client.htm
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: if words[3] == true then isn't firing
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: neither is [2] for that matter
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try words[3] == "text to match"
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i dont know what the text to match will be, it's coming from wildcards
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for my plugins, I use wildcards[#] to test for arguments...if wildcards[1] == false then colornote You didn't tell me what to do...if wildcards[1] == "Option one" then do foo, etc
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: im basically just trying to get the longest of the received wildcards
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so i initially set the variable as the words[1] then compare string.len()'s of each following, IF it exists
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I'd prolly do something like (pseudo-code without looking up syntax) strlen(wildcard[1]) > strlen(wildcard[2]), etc
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that's about what i've got
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd just use the wildcards directly, not split them into words
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: well that won't really work for my purposes
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is this plugin trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: take the longest of the entries from a utils.split() and set it to a variable.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that is all
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's how you're trying to do it, not what it's trying to do
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think it's an anti-disarm script
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: from following vagus's questions over the days
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that would be an interesting way to go about it
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lognest word usually being an actual keyword, right V?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: exactly
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: see? we listen :D
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, yeah, you're so going the wrong direction there
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: well i've been going from you guys' advice so ... lol
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no :P
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why you should describe what you're doing rather than 'how do I split', 'how do I check length', etc
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: longest word has no bearing on keywords...two options will work well...one requires a bit of setup, the other will always be flawless
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Personally, i'd use invmon and related tags to get the ID num of the weapon being disarmed, instead of a trigger to get 'long' words
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can either use a variable to hold the keyword of desired weapon (setup), or you can use invmon which will give you the itemID which will always work
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok i get that im going about THAT thing the wrong way, but i still want to understand how to do what i was trying to do
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: how to compare lengths of entries in a table and keep the longest entry
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and nothing about what you were trying to do required you to split and words rather than just using wildcards...dunno why you thought to tell me that it wouldn't work for what you were doing
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmm.. i didn't know of invmon
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon is great...any time you get/put/wear/remove an item, you get its serial number
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I just tried that out..nice
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: could someone please clarify this a little for me. when you pull a wildcard in from a pattern, is it stored to a default temporary variable that can be called up and argued with?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for triggers, if you leave it as default glob matching, first * is %1, second * is %2, etc...regexp can use named variables as well, which makes it nice
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that for quest target, you already have the full name in a variable from GMCP
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you don't need to use any triggers on questor's output
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i don't know anything about gmcp lol
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to, that part's handled for you
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: can i see the variables received from gmcp somewhere?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki has a great page telling you everything that gmcp sends to you, including its hierarchy in the variable table
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my warfare gag plugin will show a pretty simple example of comparing against a gmcp value (if war's level is greater than, less than, or equal to my gmcp level)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I need my mushclient to send an electric zap into my chair whenever someone is doign a remort auction. ideas?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Probably easier to make it play loud sounds
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: wow
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Download a police siren or something, write script, turn speakers to max, ????, profit.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe.. i may ignore a sound.. i really don't want to miss an RAuction :D
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: a chair that zaps you?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: just record ur wifes voice...
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I've gotta say it always pays to have a thou or two QPs sitting in your account for Rauctions... i've saved thousands of QP
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Wife's voice.. i love it..
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cya techies
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we always do
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: anyone knows that problem that the even-miniwindow from bast doesn't update after killing a gquest mob for example?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: my screen was just super with an inverted red error message, it says "Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error." Restarting fixed it, anyone know why I got that message?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: super spammed*
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why does cmud sometimes 'lose' my settings? I.e. not display them in package editor? Exiting client and reopening fixes the problem, but what a hassle.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: cmud 3.33a btw.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: don't know the "why", but I have a work-around: close out the settings window, minimize the whole application, and then restore. next time you open settings, they should all be there.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: anyone know of a plugin for the aard client that would add clickable buttons?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: and yes, I wish it didn't do that too.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, imagine that. Thanks for the info :)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: glad to help.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: any of the more advanced miniwindows already have clickable buttons for window control (rollup/rolldown, etc)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't think anyone has as yet done a plugin focused on the generic-use button, though
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: I want to be able to add things like "inventory filter unkept" on a button.. or commands of my choice
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: my cell phone client does it but my computer doesn't..seems backwards
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: your computer isn't backwards, you just insist on using Mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: is there another free client to use that does support it...
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Zmud ftw - every Zmud button is a "generic" button
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: you have to pay for zmud though right?
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: not old versions
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ZMud is not free, though, and he's going to get REALLY frustrated at the lack of support for a client that's as old as if not older than Windows 3.1
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Zmud v4.62 32bit is older than Windows 3.11
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Zmud v4.62 32bit is more recent than Windows 3.11
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Zmud v4.62 32bit is unsupported "shareware" -- though doubt if registering v4.62 gets a registration key that operates v4.62 (?)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's no way to get a registration for it. Kinda why it's free.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not exactly "free" - must be "refreshed" every month if not registered
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's like a legal crack that doesn't have any of the new security stuff (not to mention many of the newer features or bugfixes)
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I doubt there's even more than a handful of people who even use it, much less remember anything from when they used to use it.
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wilbon Tech: i used to use zmud
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: what is the charater to use infront of a varaible to let mush know its a variable i know it zmud it was @ as in @portalcon what would i use for get 505267459 portalcon
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's @ as well, but check the "expand variables" checkbox
T3/r3/2011-03-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: oh ok thnks
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: anyone know how muchclient campaign window can reappear?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing cp check
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't suppose by any miracle of chance, someone on here is familiar with kerberos authentication with glassfish?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: The what with the who where?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: an understandable reaction
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Okay okay. What is a glassfish?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: glassfish is a java based application server
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Oh. Sorry, I dont speak java :(
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what do you speak?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: Bs:P
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: Jawaa!
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: GOTOWORK >.<
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ohh yeah...
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can you use words of more than one syllable, and use full sentances?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Whats a syllable?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's a male cow with behavioural problems
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i know a few
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how do you use them though?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Male cow O.o ...
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: put them in a field with randy female cows and watch
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Felt would know
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: he's into cattle
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Kinky :|
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh, i see, i have not tried that in the past, so i think i do not know how to use more than one of them
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i'm using the new spiffy mush and balaam's gain monitor with it
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it isn'
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it isnt registering/reporting my hp/mana/gains etc because the line that it reports is not after that information is given
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Phalae: I am guessing it used statmon
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: like the line saying You raise a level, then the info noice, *then* gain monitor, then the You gain X
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: meanwhile it is supposed to go after the You gain X
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: the new mush doesnt have statmon?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: and, how can i get the line to report correctly?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: will i break mush if i put statmon in?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you use any of my plugins?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i do bast! :(
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: and my gquest window doesn't update after killing a mob
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a statmonitor plugin similar to Balaam's
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: prompt has a %c after it?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i can never get your plugins to cooperate :(
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: it has
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: doesn't have an extra space after the cr? I have had several people who put an extra space by accident
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you are using v6, then "plugins load fix" then "fix prompt"
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: will set it up again with special attention to that extra space, and see how it works then.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no, but it does have a space between the end of the prompt and the %c - i'll see how that goes
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if not, i'll try your plugins - i hear they are really awesome
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: they are phalae
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: You hear right
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae squirms uncontrollably, suddenly looking very uncomfortable.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: fix prompt showed me: Youre regular prompt is fine
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: same for bprompt
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: lane, the next time you do a gquest, type "bqu debug" and see if the mobs are being sent correctly
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: will do
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make that "bgq debug"
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: whenever i kill a gquest mob i get this message: GQ: could not find mob
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if should automatically do a gquest check if it can't find the mob
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: it does
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: gq check is sent right after that message
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: but the list doesn't update
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: if the gquest starts i get the list of mobs to kill, but mobs do not drop of that list when killed
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, odd, let's check the broadcast, and if it is broadcasting correctly, I will look over the code
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i have bqu debug on now
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: is that the broadcast check?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: i get at least a message suggesting so
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: cool, you should see a broadcast with a list of mobs after each qq kill, if there is a broadcast, see if the mob is being removed from the list
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, it will do debug printing which includes printing out broadcasts
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using miniwin_events or miniwin_gq?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: both
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and they both act the same?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: the cp window works fine though
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I wana use statdb but it slows my mush down too much :
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: definately thinking something is up with the broadcast then
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: v6 statdb should be super fast, I optimized the sql inserts
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lois Lane Tech: with the next gquest I'll monitor it again and then will tell you what happened.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: k, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Oh, I was afraid to try it again. I'll give it a go
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: anyone know of a xprate monitor for tt++ ?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: do i have to download the whole client for the plugins to be spiffy?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: whole client? aren't you already using the aardwolf mushclient? you have to download the bastmush zip file and extract it to a folder in worlds/plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes i am i just thought that yours was a special one, ive heard its portable?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the portable is old, v5 and above were designed to drop into the new Aardwolf MUSHclient.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I have to download v6 again to get invmon O.o I deleted it because it was messing up my sorting plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok cool
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok. i put it into the folder where all of my other plugins are. in that folder, it made a subfolder called v6.1. should i leave it as is, or should i take the contents of the subfolder out and put it where the rest of my plugins are?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: Gah, maps and rooms on gaardian down and mobs on iwuvaard, and all that during a room cp.. Speaking of freakin' Murphy and his law..
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Oh, wow
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: leave it like it is, just load the plugins from that directorey
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Armenia: wow?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: lol, loading a bunch of new plugins took forever, but you're right the v6 Statdb didn't slow down my mush at all
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is a good setup.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ugh, how can I get rid of these stupid disconnects? I can't use mccp at the moment, and I can't even pull up bigmap without getting kicked.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap, so I included a helper file to add the lua directory in my plugins to the lua search path
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Heh?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well that IS good news
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia pets Bast.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if anyone want to create miniwindow plugins based on bastmush, you can see http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/CreatingPluginsBasedOnBastmush
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: your page name is very ambiguous
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I know, it took a lot of thought to make it ambiguous, but I can't get people to read the documentation for my plugins anyway ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: who reads the manual, right? noone. :)
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I do!
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I do!
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and I appreciate it!
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: is the previous command sent stored in any way in mush so that it can be used in a trigger for example when you arnt at aylor recall and use the runto you get the you need to be at recall blah blah... want to have it trigger off that to enter;d;runto (command that brought up the trigger event)
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you could just set a runto alias and use a wildcard to pull the area keyword. make a trigger for the you are not at recall message to execute the runto alias again
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and recall first of course
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i'd write your speedwalk script so that it tracks where you are (in recall/aard hotel/manor etc) and acts accordingly
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: so for examaple say runto (.*?) ?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: right, then SetVariable('rundest',%1) and Send("runto %1")
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: kool thnks
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and in your trigger pattern, you'd Send("recall(or w/e)") /n Execute("runto undest") and click the Expand Variable box
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: Execute("runto @rundest")
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: not in the pattern in the Send, sorry for any confusion.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: your pattern would be the not at recall message
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: na its kool i got it workin thnks
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: does anyone know the formula for the scaling of hp gain from "heal" with your wisdom?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any idea why this won't update the num/room/terrain/name/zone ~#LOOP ~%numitems( ~%gmcp.room.info) {#ADDKEY @RoomDB ~%gmcp.room.info.~%i} gmcp trig pattern is room.info
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in CMud, variables that use % are read-only
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it updates the coords, and exit parts :(
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: just not the items i listed for some reason
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you quoting every character yourself or just to get the code onto the tech channel?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: quoting? you mean using the tilde?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I put that just to get it on tech channel, so the actual code is everything minus the tilde's
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: next time, use ` (the symbol under the tilde) at the beginning of the line. It tells CMud to not parse anything else on the line.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ah gotcha
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or click the computer icon
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that interferes with scripts, though, Abe.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ctrl + r
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: anywho, your problem is that you don't provide enough parameters to the #ADDKEY command
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone know why i cant get this alias to store a variable in mush i have the alias as rt (.*?) then having the alias SetVariable("rundest","%1") Send("runto %1") ..... More comming .....
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: now i have my trigger set to trigger on the you cant runto cause your at recall and its sending home;enter;run d and then is spoused to Execute("runto undest") i have everything excuting as a script and expand variables is checked
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: Execute("runto @rundest")
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: when i look at the variable i am not seeing any info stored
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looks like you're mixing variable types...
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SetVariable() goes with GetVariable()
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: variablename = foo goes with @foo
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: so either do it local or with the get variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, stick with one type or the other
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: after the ice age, my screen keeps being flooded with "Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins reload bsst"
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: me to, i had to restart mush
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was that s'posed to be bast?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it reloads the plugin that broadcasts the spelltags
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: that fixed it, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bsst or bast?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsst is the cmd for that particular plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: hey bast, im noticing that in the chat caputre im getting this now:
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: The executioner says, "$CWonder when the next batch of 'Papists' will be coming out."
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wasn't sure if you typoed, and had a generic bast one for your stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: fiendish already posted a note about that
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a bug mudside
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: littleman, that's an issue in the MUD, not the client
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: board bugs
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: board bugs;note read 9269
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: posted by 2 separate people on bugs board plus one on typos so far ;-)
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littleman Tech: sweet, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't know why anyone does mob speech to the chat window though, it is way too spammy for me
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: luckily there's a config option for that
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: hi, converting over to mush and starting to write aliases that I had lost. how do you use an alias within an alias on mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: nifty
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: is there a master faq?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: is there a master faq?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: your looking for a master what? lol
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of good info in mushclient's helps, as well as www.mushclient.com
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: the help doesn't work on 7 :/
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: faq = f$%ing akward questions....like, Dr, what is this rash??
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does so :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just have to put in winhlp32.exe
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: eh
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: download the file from the microsoft site.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: nifty
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then right-click the help file, properties, click unblock
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since the zipfile came from teh intarwebs, MS doesn't trust it :P
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: such a tiny file, taking forever to install
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it's not the size of the file, it's the motion in the O/S.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: that was bad
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I take it you're new here? that's as good as I do.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: as well, too.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: wow the coding in mush seems to be much more complex than the simple zmud language
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: dun dun dun
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: neither is more powerful than the other, though they've taken different paths.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mostly just what you're used to
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yeah lots of stuff in zmud I was used to, IE #alias and #tr functions
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: from the command line
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i see where there are ways to make an alias to replace those
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can have those in mush as well
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: is there a way to have an alias or trigger send commands to script and also to the world (ie through the script)?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ok too much thinking going on for me, going to go melt my brain with video games, thanks for the hel
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You give Ruiner the cold shoulder as he abandons Aardwolf for that graphic junk!
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: CoD actually
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same diff :P
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cackle gleefully.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: your face is the same difference
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ruiner best retort, ever
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you want to play a game that simulates Aard's warzone?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: because fights don't last 5 minutes and i still lose either way?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is it normal for, after uninstalling Mushclient, for there to be extra files under Program Files>Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the current aardmush doesn't need to be installed or uninstalled :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is it safe to simply delete the files in question?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't feel that you want them for future reference, yes
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, thank you, and on the topic of the new mushclient, is the latest version on Aards website, or elsewhere?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: using aardwolf.org:4000 on blowtorch. connects and lets me enter username and password but then disconnects tho i enter correct creds...thoughts???
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Not a clue, why aardwolf.org 4000 though? Is there something special about it when using mobile connections direct to mud?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use aardmud.org
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: tried aardmud and wouldnt even connect
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: no thats just the info given to connect
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: aardmud.org 23 is what I use to connect :P
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf.org is a different IP than aardmud.org
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: really wierd- it authenicates and even says i have no missed tells, but then just disconnects....
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: hmmm....wait- i have the client open on laptop and think its set to auto-connect- taking it down for testing
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: yep- that was it. sry to waste your time askar.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: no worries
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: if i was switching over from old mush client to new, where can i copy over my aliases?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: import, navigate to your old .mcl or whatever mushclient file and then it's done
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm has instructions - scroll down to the section about upgrading
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: my spellup plugin (basts') isn't showing in the screen
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: the echo of when i type bsp pause/resume, sorry.
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-03-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: hah my timers were turned off, I got it.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: got a RL question
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we only have fake answers
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: i can mud but i cant access any websites anyone know the name of a virus that can do that?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: there are plenty of viruses and spyware that do that...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: get yourself mcafee, spybot, adaware, hijackthis and run complete pc scans in safe mode
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: know the name of a couple so i could search my comp and delete?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: maybe its not a "virus" at all?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: proxy settings? fixed ip?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: what about DNS problems...can you connect here on the site name, or IP number?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: i can connect to all my muds and i can ping, but i cannot bring up any websites on excite
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: if you put this address in your web browser, what comes up: 74.125.237.83
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: nothing
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ok hmmm....
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: what browser are you using?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: internet explorer
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: try this....(and cross fingers). Open IE
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: go to Tools tab > Internet Options > restore Adanced Settings and Reset Internet Explorer settings
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: then restart IE
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: where restore?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: there are several settings i dont see any under advanced
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: nvm fouind
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: go to options
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ahh...ok...sorry..i just pasted what was on the net sorry.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: check proxy settings, like Dfury said
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: sweet ok its connecting thx
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: cool, glad your nightmare is over.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: thx shapechanger
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: just what i found on google for you.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: heh yah thats how i normally solve probs on my comp is roam chat sites.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Corbite Tech: but i couldnt load any sites heh thx
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: bahh!!! Why did no one ever tell me!!! I only just figured out that Lua scripts are case sensitive!!! No wonder i had so many problems!!
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Rare is the programming language that is case-insensitive.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: only one I can think of is basic
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: oh well....at least i know now.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: possibly pascal
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: is there a way that i can move all my aliases, triggers etc in mushclient into one script or plugin? (an easy way??)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: plugin wizard
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shortbus Stutz Tech: looking for some help in writing a wildcard search string to locate a few specific entries out of a database file I have. The entries all look like 'SCORE REPORT (xxx,xxx,4,xxx)' where the xxx are variable numbers (not necessarily 3 digits long...could be 1 - 6). The number in the 3rd position is variable too, but I am only trying to find the entries with a 4 in the 3rd spot. Don't know much about this kind of stuff but I have tried a search for 'SCORE REPORT (.*,.*,4,.*)' but that seems to catch everything and not just the ones with the 4 in the third spot. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for the channel spam.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try .+ not .*
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Stutz by default, regular expressions are greedy (it can depend on the specific implementation); you might try replacing the '.' (anything) with '\d' (0-9 and decimal point) 'SCORE REPORT (\d*,\d*,4,\d*)'. You may need to adjust that if there are spaces before/after parantheses or commas.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: lol that was supposed to be part of a tell
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shortbus Stutz Tech: thanks Redryn & Lashan!
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: regular expressions are not regular at all, everybody has their own definition of them
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i learned that from awk gawk ksh bash and other things
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: there is a basic set of regexp that is the same, then there are addons that may or may not be supported by a specific regex engine
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you can do almost anything with the common regexp stuff, but in some scenarios you may need extended functionality
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Indeed. The added functionality can simplify the patterns in some cases :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I do wish that lazy regexps were available in more implementations though, they are very useful.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: there's standardized regular expression syntax, like there's standard shells and all that, but then somebody goes and deviates from those standards and you gotta get all confused for nothing
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they are confusing though, fore sure, like c can be confusing if written properly or anything else to do with computers
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: while it might make sense to the author, to the crowd it's not really making much senes
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: regexps are generally hard to read, even for the author, but noone has come up with anything better to replace them afaik
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: there is no law tht says software constructs have to be easy to read...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: well, computers're mainly invented to be code breakers and obfuscators, along with fancy calculators and inventory machines, weren't they?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so i guess so, make a good business out of having people reliant on your arcane non-standard code with patents of thoughts included, obfuscatedly confusing and all that
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i couldn't care less if it's obfuscated, as long as it works properly
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: it is only arcane if you don't bother to learn it, I find aeronautical engineering arcane, that doesn't stop it from getting the job done.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: ... did you just say "computers're" ?!
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i think it's good to be able to know what's going on, windows doesn't come with a source code manual /* read me */ and things like that
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: the first unix distributions did though
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: if you are able to be a mechanic why should that ability be taken away from you
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Gnome reminds me of Windows 3.1 that's about all
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the reason windows doesn't come with an internals manual (something IBM practically gave away with their mainframes) is because they would be publicly embarrassed at the shitty philosophy behind their software.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i was amazed by the comprehensive collection of manual pages and well commented source code that came along with open and free bsd
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: it's like a standard requirement that any officially released operating system component is well documented
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: windows came with perfectly good manuals up until windows 9x
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (and including)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and we all know microsoft only released one good os after 98
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: microsoft released a good os???
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (and it took them the best part of 8 years to get that right, too)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they didn't try to obscure how does bzip function or what is a tar archive, and make a winrar reliant group of proprietary software out of the unix users, the algorithms available along with the source code, and it's free
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the philosophy behind windows is to make it easy to code for their programmers, that way they don't have to pay them that much.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well duh, it's a commercial concern
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: manual pages describe each section of a tar file, how its organized, and all that, same with the rest of the compression and archiving methods
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you might as well try and compare apples and golf balls
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the most glaring example of this is the (in)famous message pump. Where events are serialized. Missing the point of events.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i hate windows 7, caused me numerous problems yesterday, and all of them were down to free software
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the problem with windows is that it comes with virtually nothing, and there is no collection of free software packets that you know will work
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: wait until the next release comes out :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i've -seen- the free software, and it's god awful
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes, for windows it is
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for any
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: see netbeans for details
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: eh, netbeans?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: one example of bad software means all free software is bad?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, tortoiseCVS, VMPlayer
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, IBM used to give most of their software away. They had world class programmers but they were in the business of selling machines so they used their software as the carrot. Microsoft doesn't have that luxury. They will pump software down the pipe and make you pay for it and pay a lot.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: Glassfish
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: sql developer
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: of course not, gnu c compiler is used on probably all unix distributions
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: it's pretty free isn't it
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: Glassfish is the size of a small galaxy.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: gas is a great assembler too
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I can make a longer list of bad free or nonfree software, that doesn't prove anything
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I grew partial to the Apacher servers but at the end they were too much work. Glassfish is even more so.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok, so give an example of a great nonfree application server?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I still use Apache on my localhost web.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: Apache is good, but it is a lot of work.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, takes a minute to get started....
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: stay way from the Oracle servers, they give one away, it takes about 2.5Gb to install. So if you are tight on disk space go elsewhere.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: since when is 2.5G a lot of diskspace?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: since about 1980-1990
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, obviously you haven't been around a lot :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: around what?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: around = breathing
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you say that as if there were something wrong with that period of time, they didn't have pretty pictures on their screens then but the work got done. Now all everyone wants is a pretty picture and ignore what's behind it. 2.5Gb is an obscene amount of space.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: was an obscene amount of space you mean
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure, 10 years ago.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: if it were really necessary to be that big, I wouldn't mind. But 70% of all that space goes to code generated by the compiler that is unnecessary.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, if you think program sizes should increase without bounds, you should be happy to know that they are working on quatum computers already. They will have an infinite amount of memory.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: depends on what you call unnecessary
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you are a software developer, you know that you don't always have time to make everything perfect before release. Sometimes that means the footprint is larger than it could be.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: take a look at those great device drivers that are written in C++, look at the actual code. The code looks something like this... blah, blah, blah, JMP +128 then 128 bytes of NOOPS
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: and that's how most of the code looks this day, so 2.5Gb is obscene because half of it is full of NOOPs
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and you don't know why? You need to learn to code.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, I know why, the compiler generates it to align to a page boundry.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: device drivers are very specialized, normal rules don't apply
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and that matters because?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: but if the device driver were written by a human, that would need to be done.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: because the compiler can't afford to guess where the stuff is, so it aligns it. If a programmer does it by hand that is not required.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is a reason for that, take a course in compiler design and computer architechture.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: most hardware manufacturers have deals that they'll only release their spec sheets to microsoft, of mainstream stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i imagine OpenGL could do just as much as direct x if given all them sheets
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sorry to burst your bubble, but compilers are better at write machine code than humans.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: and creative labs
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gnu hardware
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so what card drivers that come openly with linux distro's are guess worked/hit and miss figured out and stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: spoken by someone that has never understood assembly language.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: or they release the code and make it under hteir liscence
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: it's so good to see some extreme expertise once in a while, i should come here more often
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think it's the other way around, but who cares.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: like nvidia drivers for linux, you download the binary versions and debian for instance will warn that it'll taint the system
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: oh, right, if I don't code ic C++ I can't program worth crap, right.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: taint the system? what kind of crap is that?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: nvidia has deals that they won't release how to control their hardware through software/api with anybody but windows or one of those systems
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you can't program in C and assember, you can't write device drivers, yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: why do you have to know how to program in C, why would I want to write system software in a high level language?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: i didnt think that was true anymore
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Because you cannot afford to write everything in assembler.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: why not?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: imo, if you buy a car, how that engine runs shouldn't be a trade secret, if you have the time and patience you should be able to fix it yourself, so you have manuals that mechanics refer to while fixing your car
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Because it costs more. And customers want to pay less.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: video cards and other hardware components should be the same, from top to bottom
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: uh, anaristos, so you actually cannot code in C/C++?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I certainly couldn't write windows in assembler all by myself, but all the programmers MS has in employed knew how to priogram in assembly, they would have a better product.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, it would be way worse
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Bugs is related to number of lines of code, no matter which language is used
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: video cards are a bit trickier than an engine. dont tighten a bolt and you could maybe get away with it. solder the wrong cap in the wrong place and you stuffed.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so are computer chips on vehicles
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yes, I can, C,C++,C#,F#, you name it. I use all those crappy languages. Add Lisp, Prolog, Fortran, Cobol and PL/1 to the mix.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: those are kind of hidden from mechanics aren't they?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: compiler optimizations being considerably more efficient than writing things in assembly is a point that has already been proven ages ago, not to mention the obvious advantage of, i don't know, manageable code
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: also, if windows was written in assembler, noone could afford to buy it
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I won't argue that for many user applications, high level languages are the way to go. But there is no excuse for operating system to be written in anything but assembler.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And who would afford to do that?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: having the knowledge of how those things operate that are used by people in the hands of only a few, because they get paid so little to have this knowledge, puts the many who use it at a big intersection of exploitability
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: that is crap. Windows was written in assembly up to 3.0, at 3.1 they wrote it in C with an assembly interface, after that they dropped the interface altogether.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, but that was before it was a real OS.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: it's faster precisely because of stuff similar to what you mentioned, byte alignment, internal knowledge of the CPU in question, knowing how to hint the internal jump predictions, essentially, knowledge that a computer can consistently maintain, while an extremely good programmer has to spend ages optimizing the code to achieve at least as much result
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: windows is not a real OS now
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: if that knowledge was available, like the windows programmers aren't the ones releasing the windows viruses, then people who are known as 'white hat hackers' would poick away at it in the best interest of their neighbour, and the community wouldn't be so ignorant
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: go check out openbsd's production schedule, they're busting things in their system that nobody else discovered constantly, in particular hardware setups and patching them up before they're even discovered
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: that's all done voluntarily and also for money cause it's one of the most secure systems in the world
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: seriously, get a clue before you make a claim, if you learned all the languages you mentioned up there, and all that knowledge has given you the idea that assembly is the way, you have done a very crappy job learning
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you know, I don't like Intel, I think they got lucky and so they got big. But one thing I will say, their 808x chips can be programmed is such a way that you won't be able to hack the system. The i86 chips, which include the current version are even more secure. So the question is, why is Windows so hackable?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you said windows was an OS, but they don't use any of the features of the chipset that a real OS would use. For isntance, why is windows using threads when there is hardware task switching?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: maybe it's the whole overhead of complete task switch thing?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: threads share the same address space, eliminating the need for a full context switch, which tends to be quite bulky
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: how can hardware switching be slower that thread management? How can hardware be slower than software in the same machine?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: wait, so you think that processes are actually implemented on a hardware level?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: read up on how windows manages threads, it's an epic effort :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: who cares how windows manages threads, read up on how operating systems in general manage threads, you might be surprised to actually find that processes are threads with a designated virtual address space, and are therefore managed by the very same mechanism
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: no, I say that windows does not do it at the hardware level. Threads was the all way of doing things. Threads are from the early '70s, when tasks ran on a limited number of acces keys. So in order to have many users on the same key they came up with the idea of the commutator which is another name for a thread manager.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: they would either time slice the threads or use priority queues.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: and according to you, what is the better way?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I/O bound threads had the highest priority, cpu-bound threads had the lowest.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: but intel put all that into hardware, so there is no need to do any thread management, all you need is a switching scheme based on frequency of access, again I/O bound high, CPU-bound low and the world is good.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: that is kind of alien speak to me, you guys are in it deep hey? i guess the i/o threads would have higher priority cause of the wait time on ram and hard disks, while the cpu's own loaded functions took a small fraction of that time
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did AMD also do that
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: Itel also has hardware segmentation, but unfortunately they put in a bit that says if it is on, there is only one segment in the machine... Guess which mode Windows uses :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i kinda wonder which drugs are you doing
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: In Cide sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: ive been listening to this for some time now...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: you should read itel technical manuals, they are fascinating.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}In Cide Tech: and come to a conclusion
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the point behind hardware segmentation is that a segment can't see anything outside it, there is no way for it to execute outside its box, so that makes segment super secure. The reason Windows can be hacked is because once you get in, you can access any part of the software.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: yeah, something like 4 modes on them iirc, linux uses kernel and user iirc
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: windows runs the entire system on one segment
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i might be thinking of something else though
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone familiar with the syntax for appending kernel options from a bootloader such as grub or syslinux ? most hopefully the Single user variety ? ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: right, there are only 4 keys on an Intel chip, 0 to 3, Necro.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: doubt that intel chips were designed for ease of reentrant code ?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: any specific question in mind vampiredude?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: randor yes... how do i append my kernel options so that i can boot into a single user mode and reset my lost root password
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: which bootloader?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grub, or syslinux
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: in grub, you select the option, press e to go into edit mode, choose the particular line for kernel, press e again, type single at the end, enter, and then press b to boot the modified option
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i just tried that.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it booted me normally
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are you sure that the word ' single ' is the correct syntax?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: keep in mind that single user mode is a userspace mechanism
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: that means your distro has to support it
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: which brings us to the next question: which distro?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gentoo =(
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the control blocks to handle segements are stored in privileged memory at task switch time, That is how re-entrant code is managed. When there is a task switch the hardware dumps the machine state at a dedicated memory location, and loads the next task's state from another location. Re-entrant protocols are implemented at the software level, not the hardware.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: single should work on gentoo, though if you enabled interactive boot, you don't really need it
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: randor, really?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have interactive boot enabled.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: er, did you say recover root password?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: ok, maybe not, but anyway, single should just work, did you type it right? did you make space between the last argument and single?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i don't use any specialized init script or real_root type options
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/TIP_Booting_into_single_user_mode#.27single.27_doesn.27t_work
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: randor, X.X
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: from the title, may i discern that single won't work?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or should i load the page?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: it worked for me, though i suspect it may depend on the version of baselayout
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, one second, let me go check the version
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: yes, it has hints for you
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 1.12.14-r1
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: let me go start x
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: anaristos, what you described is called virtual memory management, segmentation is a very different mechanism, and no, there is no hardware support for concurrency, except for the atomic increment instruction, i have to ask which tech spec were you reading
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: randor, couldn't 'raid' count as a concurrency?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: raid? concurrency? uhhhh?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: randor ah, i see... on gentoo they like ' 1 ' instead of ' single'
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: thank you! i was mistakenly relying on the regular gentoo site instead of a wiki .info site
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude thanks Randor heartily.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i'm going to go try rebooting!
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: this info may be outdated, i don't use single user mode, ever, but i believe i had to use it once and single just worked
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Uh, how to clear the stats on basts plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: why's my utorrent acting weird? it doesn't let me choose separate files inside a torrent anymore, it just goes and starts dling the whole torrent
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i reinstalles spellup and nothing
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: plugins reload bsst
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type plugins reload bsst
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: not working
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: k juust reinstalled everything maanually... if the problem carries on then im going to stop using bast plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: O.o I dont think the problem is the plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: oh ja? and then what is it... sending errors... stop thinking you know everything
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hi in cmud when it says syntax error : illegal token what's that mean ?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hi, i am looking for some help to convert my script from zmud to cmud and some. can someone send tell please. i can pay some trivs. :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://kathack.com/
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: why dont i see double exp messages anymore?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you turn off info? (why on tech anyway?:P)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: hi, anyone have the Ljqbrx.sys file?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: basts spellskill plugin is screwed loose... it keeps disconnecting
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I paid him to add that feature in for you.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: anyone here use bast's plugins? (Specifically, the planes mobs one?)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around himself intently.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, sorry, was doing some mapping, what can I do for you?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how do i use the planes mobs plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plookup
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: aha!
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: muchly appreciated
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: bast that skillsgain plugin keeps disconnecting every 30min or so...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: omg that is *HAWT*
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae looks at Bast and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Ghostsoul: are you on a bad connection?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Anyone able to help with tt++ triggers? I'm having trouble getting ( and ) to match :(
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: no my connection is good...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what do you mean by disconnects?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: gives spam messages in red
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what was the first error?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that implies there was an error that happened before
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and spam messages are messages that mean nothing, errors are not spam
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error. then Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: they both say previous error, so the first time there should have been a nice long error message
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you can find it please pastebin.com it and tell me the url
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: k one sec
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can get rid of the spam by doing "plugins reload bsst"
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: Invalid spellheaders line: 414,party sanc Invalid spellheaders line: tuary,0,0,0,-1,1 Invalid spellheaders line: wave,1,0,0,-1,1 those are the 5 errors i get
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and for the display_timer one, "plugins reload miniwin_spellup"
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: and theres a few more about lines
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I need the ones that look like a script error, can you pastebin.com the entire error please
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: everytime i reload broadcast spellskill then the errors stop
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: will a system restore erase my programs and stuff?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i cant find that huge error now... but ill send it the next time it does that
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just pastebin.com it and send me a note with the url
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: okay will do
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: one more questin... why dont i see double exp msgs anymore??
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: don't know, my plugins do nothing with those messages
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are they going to your chat window?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i answered that before, you probably turned off info chan :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: well then this client is tired and wants me to replace it
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i dont see it at all
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: i missed a few
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "info" -> Other? I would guess would need to be on to see double messages
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: all info is on excepy levels
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: the last time i saw a double exp msg was 3 days ago :(
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: okay for some reason my client crash turned info off... thanks starling
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Damn I'm good.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GhostSoul Tech: thanks bast
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm using zmud 5.55 at the moment since cmud isn't portable. Is it faster to have each area repop message as its own trigger, or would it be more efficient to put them all into a list variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: It's more efficient to make one repop trigger using the repop tag :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav is agreeing with that The Reaper Myrkul person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, I'll be god-damned.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, even a t9 can learn new tricks ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: btw, there's been talk of a portable version of cmud called cmudlite
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Zugg talks a lot
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, well apparently it's done :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i just forget why he didn't release it yet...
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What does the 'lite' version lack?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because he's Zugg
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I shouldn't rip on the man, but he does do some silly things.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there any way to make the mushclient mapper forget an area, for when it's been replaced?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper help....mapper purgearea ?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mapper purgezone , check mapper help
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks, obvious really, not sure how I missed it
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It did it but the mapper is still doing odd things, showing rooms where there aren't any, etc. It's wildwood, used to be antharia apparently. Do I need to purge wildwood too? I've hardly mapped any of it yet
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you started mapping before you removed antharia, i'd restart, yes
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That's fixed it, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's the pattern for repop tagged messages? Is it just {repop}... ?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Been waiting for a repop, taking too long.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maramec Tech: I'm looking for any available plugins for Gnome-Mud. Any help would be appreciated.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mnmchilo Tech: what do i google if i want to download androit to my phone?and does a nokia n97 support it?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You mean Android?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: copy/paste what you asked on tech into google
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: randor, that still didnt work
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Any linux experts around?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask if there's an expert, just ask your question
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: Im good at figuring how to set car clocks after daylight savings
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I've suddenly begun experiencing segmentation faults. I can reproduce them with certain triggers on tintin++. The scary bit is it's also happened with sendEmail, so I'm particularlly worried it's a systemwide thing, however, I can't reproduce the segfault in other tools.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: had the issue, upgrade to 2.00.6, it should be fixxed
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If you're using my scripts, remove the SEND OUTPUT event in the GMCP script and that'll remove it completely
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, lemme guess...glibc version change?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: In combination with tt++ not escaping {} properly
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I'm attempting to make my own script that parses 'bid' and sends me an sms :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: When recieved in gmcp
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What version of the client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I'm not sure, is there an easy way to find out?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: #help greet
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Ah, probably the version issue, 2.00.1
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, there's no #ver?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, upgrade to 2.00.6 beta
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You're using ubuntu i assume?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Yep.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: and I'm guessing 2.00.6 isn't in the repositories. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Sec
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I just answered this question on the forum with an easy shell script, lemme find it
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Thanks, you are awesome :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: http://tintin.sourceforge.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=1416
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 3rd or so post down, i'm still called chicomecoatl on that forum :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Haha, wow, I was using your scripts on the net to help me figure out tintin's scripting then :) Still have (seemingly) old webpages out there.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Which pages? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: http://aardwolf.chicomecoatl.angelfire.com/blog/
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Wow, WAY old :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: try looking on colbymeier.dyndns.org for some more up-t--date scripts :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Will do :) Don't think anyone's built a lot of stuff for sending SMS alerts to a cellphone yet though :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Not too hard, but no.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Yeah, I've got most of it working, it's just the segfault on semi-complicated triggers holding me up.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I built one for my clan's website for raiding purposes, but never for my client to interact with me.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm willing to be the trigger is segfaulting on a '}' somewhere.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: be=bet
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: An upgrade from 2.00.1 to 2.00.6 should fix it.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If you get the beta of 2.00.6 you won't get anoying unreadable char's being printed to the screen from gmcp, but if you don't use gmcp, there shouldn't be any concern.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Actually, yeah, it's sefgaulting on {Hit roll|Damage roll|list of other stats}
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Are you using statmon?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I found statmon, but, I'm wanting item stats from auctions/market, not my personal stats.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: brb
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I thought about converting one of the auction bot scripts for mush or zmud over, but i had no use for it :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: There, now to see if I still asplode :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Glorous boom still :) but, I'm semi-confident it'sa different issue then the original.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I can help you debug it, if you like.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Okay, one sec, gotta redo the trigger... I really should save it before testing. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: When you're done, throw it on pastebin, i'll take a look see :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: http://pastebin.com/p6Nhf7wD
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I derp'd on the explanation. The %0 I was hoping it would show me all the matches so I could know for sure whether %3 wasn't matching correct.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lemme try something a bit more, umm, flexible.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I -originally- tried %1%s:%s%2%s%3:%s%4%s but, that was causing a segfault in 2.00.1 as well.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: and -extreme- slow down on matching. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nah, that's a little too unsage
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: My end goal is to send a concise version of the stats ripped from the 'bid' command as an SMS (I've got my sendEmail script working already)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Try this: http://pastebin.com/i990gW1G
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I hadn't tested it, so it was just a rough outline.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The item's stats should be stored in item[Wisdom] item[Strength], etc
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Sorta works, it populates item, but, the matching's a bit off :) I'll fiddle with it and see what I can get :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: least it gave ya a start :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Thanks bunches! :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Np :)
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is there an exp rate, time tnl plugin for mush that works over GMCP?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any C# experts around who wouldn't mind helping me track down an error in my code.
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any C# experts around who can help me figure out an error in my code, http://pastebin.com/dj17FSHj
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogstar Tech: Why do the action words in the paging bar not work? for example q does not = quit, t does not take you to the top of the page?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What do they do instead?
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: q always worked fine for me..
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogstar Tech: q thinks you are asking for quest helps and directs you to look for a quest giver
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then it looks like something is exiting out of the prompt before that
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you don't have strictpager on, then anything except those letters will exit the paging prompt
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogstar Tech: just curious
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If q is doing quest stuff, then your client is sending some command before q
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Anyone who uses Facebook know how to disable the new "quick-reply on Enter" feature? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: click on the red X in the upper right corner. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Gee, thanks :P
T3/r3/2011-03-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got to <3 buffalo whr-g54s models
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: smallest and hassle-free router that can be flashed with any custom firmware :>
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: anyone know how to use diskpart.exe in win 7 to change a partition ID from 7 to 12?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: if it's interactive it'll probably be easy to figure out
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its command line
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i never liked that aobut windows, it should come with manual pages built in at least
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: have you tried searching their website?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300415
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: basically my father in law bought a new laptop. trying to create factory restore disks. they are created from a hidden partition. use the one key recovery software and the first dvd had a fault for some reason and verification failed. unfortunately for some unknown reason lenovo decided that while recovery disks are going through the partition should be made a visible normal partitiorecovery software dies.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: unfortunately it leaves the partition as visible and thus recovery wont go through again as it cant find the hidden partition
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: Diskpart differs from many command-line utilities because it does not operate in a single-line mode. Instead, after you start the utility, the commands are read from standard input/output (I/O). You can direct these commands to any disk, partition, or volume. that's what i figured, there's similar applications in *nix
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: oh that, yeah, i managed to eradicate my dell recovery partition/utility partition
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i usually wipe the whole disk on new laptops. remove the hidden partition, the oem crap etc, then clean install
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: you could probably boot into a parted live cd or something, then remove that partition for free space and then use it in windows
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they're not really neccessary , except i guess the support people might give you some key combination to boot into that partition which no longer exists and restore the system to factory settings
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: unfortunately he wants the recovery discs. so now thanks to some flippen brainiac at lenovo i am having a bad day
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: but if you record what you change it's not neccessary, and the utilities are usually on a cd that comes with your computer
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i know they not nescessary but he is adamant. also no cds shipped with the laptop. everything is on the factory partition
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: so anyone got a clue on how to change its id back to hidden system?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: tried visiting their website and entering your laptop id, ? you could probably burn whatevers' on the drive onto a cd and run diagnostics from booting into it
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wipe the disk, download /oem/ version of your windows, burn it, install it, use the key on your oem sticker
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bam! valid, legal windows without extra hassle
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: restore discs are worthless
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and if you want to use restore option, create an extra partition and store a disk image there
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i'd guess you'd be using the assign command with the in focus numerical drive's letter, and somehow swapping them
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: but i don't see a reassign command, to rearrange their numbers, i just skimmed over it though
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: and it doesn't mention hidden flags that i see
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thanks for the help necro. managed to get it working. no way i would ever buy a lenovo after this
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: cool, glad i could offer some assistance
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you didn't buy a laptop brand based on peoples bad experience, you wouldn't buy one period
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: (to be fair)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: (just bought a lenovo laptop, I may have to read what just happened)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wouldn't worry
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: it has to do with the one key recovery software you use to create your recovery discs blode
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just keep your receipts, know your warranty entitlements, make those recovery disks, and back up regularly
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: not a biggie at all just annoying
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: I haven't made the recovery disks yet haha
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: get on and do it
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i would reccomend you do and do NOT interupt it for any reason
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thats where my issue came from
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if i were buying a laptop now, i wouldn't touch anything without at least a 3 year warranty included
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: Thanks, I'll go make one later, I did keep all receipts and everything that it went with
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yep. also im leaning towards dell for my next machine. they seem to last a bit longer than the others i have had.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: coincidence
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: Last week I just added the office key and used it right away
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: dell has excellent tech support if you pay for it
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they even upgraded my motherboard for free
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss peers intently at A Necrosapien.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: -if- you can get past the first tier of indian idiots
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: lat 3 hp laptops i had the backlighting on the screen failed so im not going there again lol
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hp don't make the screens, so hardly worth blaming them
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: actually alot of the indian's i talked to on the phone were pretty helpful, it was some white folks in ontario who posed the biggest problem
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's the tierage of the support + language barrier that does us up like a kipper her
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: here
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: cause my questions were related to getting some hardware to operate through linux or something similar to that, oh no.. it was me noticing that there was a faulty line of ram on a video card, because the characters on my TTY terminal would change, say from n to m
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: hinting that the video card was missing voltage and was fucked up
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they wanted to remotely access my machine cause they're trained in windows, and there is probably no way they could observe the phenomenon remotely
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well a tier one technician would take you through correct connection and recovery disk
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and would then tell you it didn't ship with linux so they can't help
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: because it wasn't a problem in ram that then is buffered into video card ram, the ram would be sent to their remote viewing terminals, not the video ram
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so in the end i bought a new video card
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: was it under warranty?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i could have let them remotely view my linux sessions, but as problem was in the video card memory and not the computer memory that wouldn't prove a thing to them
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so you paid for a fix that should have been free :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: true, but they also replaced my PSU and motherboard and paid the technicians to install and do both jobs
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: should hope so
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: which would be nearing a thousand bucks
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so the video card was my only grievance and their inadequacy at comprehending the problem that i clearly stated to them
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: still not a glowing report
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: with their business support, i'd be expecting a three strikes rule
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: on the other hand, a indian guy who works in edmonton was very helpful at fixing some setup errors and shit in my computer, so i got no problem with that part of it
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: this is XPS support though, so they have higher quality people helping out
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: part of these companies problems are to do with being able to skip the bullshit when you know what your issue is
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can understand -why- they do it, but it doesn't make for a happy user experience
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i remember having massive problems trying to get Asus to replace a broken socket in a laptop
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blodeuwedd Tech: maybe companies should make tech support for advanced users
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: an obligatory 5 year warranty would drive up quality and reduce the need for support
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and increase prices by quite a lot
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, people might have to start paying what hardware costs :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but then, you'd not have to replace it every 12 months like you do now
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you _can_ buy stuff with mucher higher quality
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not really, outside of industrial circles
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mucher higher... lol
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: true, you need to know how to do it
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: as much of it is about design choices than expense
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: still, if you buy a laptop for e.g. 2500 euro, it will last longer than one for 400 euro
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: like having power sockets on a fly cable that plug onto the board accessible through a panel. Would allow handy users to replace them themselves rather than going back to factory or costing $400 to repair
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: atm there's no guarantee of that at all, Ranrr
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: alot of things are built to break after so long, otherwise the company has no constant income, if it's not that it's sloppily written code that is suddenly in demand and requires a hardware replacement
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no, but generally, from the same manufacturer
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i've seen a fully functional GUI operating system with an assembler and several components fit on a single floppy disk
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm not terribly interested in the income of the companies
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: make em charge for software support or have other revenue streams instead
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i'd call it the 110 year new york firestation lightbulb phenomenon, how come mine burns out in 2 months?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: blame the malwarts of the world, not the manufacturers
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: also make them responsible for correct recycling in-country of their products
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: blaming the world is just admonishing guilt, everyone plays their part
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for instance, my headphones are now beginning to die after 9 years - it's a fair life, but somewhat disappointing
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: especially given that the headphone parts are fine, it's the understrength cable thats the problm
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: yeah, i've noticed that with a new set of 50 dollar headphones, over a period of maybe 2 months the once straight cable will be twisted into loops beyond recognition
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i'm no electrician and don't understand how that all works, but the cables probably play a part in the short lifespan of them
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: and it's difficult to fix fibre optic wires, if that's what they use in them
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: fibre optic wires in headphones?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: its 9 years old, you really think it uses fibre optics? :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: some kind of non-simple metal material anyway
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: otherwise touching the severed parts would result in sound
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: like copper? non-simple enough? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: maybe it's just insulated many wires
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're more than welcome to follow my antics on tech, though :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: aardwolf needs twitter feeds
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what for?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: "just got pwned lol"
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: why would anyone normally need fatuous technology?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: do schools need standardized radioactive ipods and shit to learn from?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they don't use radioactive ipods, they use the special kids version of the ipod, the iTouch
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: save a tree, use an ereader
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: save oil, shoot the kid
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they did studies that proved that the signals given off by their radio frequencies actually disrupt and affect the cognitive functions of some people, along with the navigational abilities of wildlife
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: and they spread them like a virus everywhere
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: there's some uses for them, but they want all uses for them
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so is there going to be a tech-free school division for the adherently minded naturalists, and a technological isopad for the uninformed?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they'll integrate it into everything, like a cell phone isn't used for phone calls anymore, and comes with software that is easily hacked remotely through its network capabilities
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't really care, i just would like for kids to come out of school being able to speak, read, write, and do some maths without a calculator
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: violation of privacy that the government is on top of, along with whoever is informed
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: technology makes many people stupid
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i doubt there's much we can do about that now
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i'm fairly sure that whoever is hacking your phone, the government is the least competent of all
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: pretty hard to pollinate a crop with no bees or hummingbirds or butterflies
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: but the biologists that aren't frauds get ignored
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they ain't hacking -my- phone
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: worth
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: a guy from new york published a book entitled something like this is the dumbest generation in the history of humanity
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so you got a point there
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: rare that i don't make a point, just not common for people to agree
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Canadians are smarter than USamericans
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so is yeast
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: necroshine, i have read your statements on here, and i have to admit, you're a manifestation of pansophism, you truly know everything about everything
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i only know what i remember reading and my own opinion on things
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: my favourite was some or the other us news channel during the last soccer world cup with a image of south america and at the bottom a label stating south africa heh
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I don't know everything about everything, but what I do know, I probably don't like
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: that and full of shit, but entertaining nonetheless
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: the amazon rainforest is where hummingbirds and monarch butterflies go in the winter months, those both pollinate crops and orchards in north america - that rainforest is being cut down daily and oil rigs and minerals excavated cause that's where the money is
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: there's several endangered species of hummingbird today, and their habitat is disappearing constantly, that would be one less link in the food chain
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: necroshine is speaking truth, unfortunately
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: some they can't even confirm exist anymore
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there's a more immediate problem with honeybees
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: hawaii beaches are gone, the earquake sunk the island a lil further
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: man's use of chemicals is killing them all off. If they all go, a whole bunch of your crops will get pollinated
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: will -not- get pollinated
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: the chemical treadmill, there's alot of documentaries on that
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i've seen fatalist predictions all over, but i have yet to see one that got fullfilled
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: also records of older practices that worked for since when man first may have cultivated the land, in more advanced forms, which could be slowly reintroduced into the agriculture industry
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: i think we are capable of pollinating
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i think nature existed longer than humans, and its way is the way things are proven to work
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nanobots!
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sure, why let nature do what we could obviously do better. I mean, where does nature get off?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: NANOBOTS!
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: watch out
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well here's a fatalist prediction for you from 1971 - building nuclear power plants on the coast near a huge faultline probably isn't a great idea
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: man's arrogance should have diminished somewhat after that little demonstration in the Sea of Japan, but I doubt it.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: how is that fatalist?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's not, unfortunately
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll phone God up and tell him to shake harder next time
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: on that big Wii controller of his
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: yeah, also tell him to fire Nature, we'll take over the job :)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought only the pope had a direct line :\
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: while you're at it: Ask him 'Duck-billed platypus, what -were- you smoking?'
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: it's a transition test animal :)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i find it astonishing how firmly scientists believe that they know the temperature of the core of the sun, and the core of the earth is still a mystery to them, but based upon their theories of how the levels it believes it has mastered intercoagulate to form the end product we live on, they make their rational
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i'd like to see somebody on earth invent a probe that can sink to the core of the sun and a signal that can reach to earth reporting its heat
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: didn't they claim that they sent a probe to jupiter that burned up before even coming close to its surface?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: as I said, that little shake-n-bake over the Pacific should have brought them down a peg, but no dice.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'd like those reactors to go up, just so we can go "look, the world didn't end, now shut up"
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, the universe, and the Earth by extension, is bit sturdier than a bunch of hairy beasts :)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm not a great supporter of nuclear power because of the cost, but all the crap in the media about safety is kinda sad
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this isn't 1980's Russia, we don't make nuclear reactors out of cardboard anymore
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, when the rockies turn into an island chain well be ready to take over the world :)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: radioactive materials change things, and there is no documented theory of what part they played in the ecosystems where they were excavated from, like a ripple effect on their evolution theory, they don't know how to dispose of the spent fuel rods, maybe shoot them into space yeah, burying them under a mountain or two and on the bottom of the sea have both proven ineffective
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: and anything is possible here, where i'm sitting can become a bottomless chasm in a flash
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: fatalist predictions are bullshit, there's always going to be someone claiming havoc and anarchy stemming from something that mankind is bringing upon himself, oil peaks (several of them), amazonas deforestation, ice caps melting, always a crowd of people who will experience an epic fail in critical thinking and spread the religion
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: most people accept the fact that man will destroy himself
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: who is this most people?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: some that i know
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i just hope he hurries up
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: so most people of the people you know do?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i don't know very many people, but most of them agree on things like that
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: that's not very surprising, since people like you prefer to surround themselves with .... people like you
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i haven't ever met anybody like me actually
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there are lots of different types of people in the world
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unfortunately, the ones in charge are the noisiest and greediest, and rarely the best suited to the job
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all the rest of us can do is 'manage'
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: best of luck :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: oil is a limited resource, and there's bible verses 'separated the waters which were below the firmamant from the waters which were above the firmament, land and seas, oil as waters? soil as a firmament here in context?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: it's a mystery isn't it, what was its meaning?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: someone got high and wrote poetry
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: they invented an electric car in 1885, and that got discontinued with the changed ownership of the rover corporation
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: and a surprisingly good poetry, because it's easy to see a lot of possible explanations in it and everyone's successfully seeing their own truth, apparently
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: now, knowing oil is limited, and seeing how cleanly they dealt with the spill in the gulf of mexico with no media coverage at all now, - do you believe it's wise to drill under 10 metres of ice in the arctic sea?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: man will destroy himself, or rather, his ignorant leaders will lead them to their graves?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: if that theory has no weight to it, then gravity must not exist after all
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: that is a curious implication, proof please?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: proof is in the pudding washing ashore on the east coast of the usa
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: along with some suntanning fish carcasses
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: reading a little into the intricate marine biology and government preserved coastal marine ecosystems is interesting enough to wonder, what kind of those were destroyed here
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: despite popular belif, oil is a natural resource, and oil spills, while often times caused by man, actually happen on their own as well, poor fish will die, but why mourn these fish and not for example those that end up to be fish fillets?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: does the term food chain say nothing to you? because that involves a lot of death and suffering
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: oh yeah, like cow farts account for the majority of global warming and critical mass destruction of the world, and those smokestacks are only a minor component with the hundred and fifty million vehicles troddling along the highway
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: what the earth erupts naturally and what man constantly taps
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: amen
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a cow is not adding to the carbon footprint -- burning oil from deep in the ground is adding to the carbon footprint
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for the most part it's overegging, but the truths are that there are too many people on the planet for the resources it can currently offer
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: the resources they're taught to be dependent upon
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Food chain? Like Costco?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: there's plenty and plenty of alternatives and balances that could be used to demolish and sustain human society, the possibilities are endless, but the dictators are few
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the implication is therefore that resources will become more expensive, possibly resource wars will break out, but either way, if the population doesn't come down, the quality of life in the west will diminish as a results
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i thought you were worried about existence of mankind, rather than quality of life
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: necro might be, I couldn't care less
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I won't be around to see it, why worry?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: you can have high quality of life using less destructive and more abundant natural resources, and giving generations of people tools that don't lead to their death that they can build on
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yes, you could
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: morality and shit like that is dictated alot by media, there's other social programs to consider as well
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: but they won't, and no amount of talking will chance that
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the earth is geared to handling the methane production from cows, but that extra nudge from oil-burning humans is causing catastrophic (to humans) climate change
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: well, why don't you?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so you might as well save effort
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: overpopulation and low morality, how do they intercoagulate? we're just pieces of meat after all, lets slap some sud, there's another proud bastard
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: having something constructive that a machine took the place of, human displacement - the luddites
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: the luddites seen all of this coming in the 1800's
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: life in some form is likely to continue if the humans exterminate humans on this current planet
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm all for utopianism, but it's something you have to follow on your own these days
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: in a community where there's nothing to do, why is that?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: how do they get their food and shit like that?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: import/export and machine labour
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: slave labour in other countries too i guess, like a nike
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ah, harken back to the 1300's. Europe was over-populated, with the populace suffering multiple famines as well as a general downward trend in life span. Then some black rats aboard some ships from god knows where brought fleas infected with Black Plague. Europe suffered a die-off of 30 - 60%. The result was that the remaining population became wealthy simply due to the lack of competing people for the same resources. It is theorized that the plague of 1300's gave rise to the Rennaisance.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: where do they get their money to buy the nikes
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they get their money to buy nikes out of MY tax money, the parasitic bastards
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: why is it that people destroy themselves and have no respect for one another, could it be partly because there is nothing constructive for the majority of them to do in their life?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: whoops, I typed that out aloud
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: building somebody elses fortress while they're left not even able to afford a new pair of shoes?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: best paying jobs are those that destroy the environment in some way
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: So I'm looking at a die-off of at least 50% of the world's population in the next pandemic. Three and a half billion people got to go.
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the temperaure of a human being is 310 kelvin -- a slight increase of 1% in body temperature is a fever -- but "hey" the idiot exclaims, "that 3 degree increase is only 1%"
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you're impoverished and dependant on others, then you cut your cloth according to your means and you buy cheaper trainers, not expensive brand names
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that also applies for not having a new iphone every year and smoking 60 fags a day
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: xyliz, are you referring to global warming?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: yeah, then there's the indian tribe on a western B.C island, where some european explorers dropped off their enplagued passengers, and exploited the good-natured indians compassion towards humanity then plagued their entire people
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: only a few survivors survived that plague
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: and people are wondering why people go on murdering sprees
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: or nations
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so there were more survivors that the ones who survived?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: than*
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: most of their people got wiped out by smallpox
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: but there were a few survivors
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so what - there is no relevant moral to the story stated yet
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: no relevant moral, the moral of human compassion is irrelevant, and exploitation thereof is just a natural nonsensical thing
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: so there's your rats on board europe
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't think i'd want a world without human morality or compassion
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: only the evil prosper, is that really true?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Necroshine stated: "the moral of human compassion is irrelevant, and exploitation thereof is just a natural nonsensical thing" - end of discussion
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/viral-spread-of-bullying-video-may-encourage-more-acts-says-expert-20110315-1bvx1.html
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogstar Tech: how come when I type whois Someone, I get message that noone by that name is playing?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: i found pretitles can cause problems
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: so if it's a mult word name you need the right bit
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: or if they have logged out it won't work
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogstar Tech: maybe someone is an invisible character
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: Someone Semoene im guessing?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogstar Tech: when I scan I can never detect this Someone. but just standing in the room I always see the prompts: Someone does this or Someone does that or Someone enters the garbage can portal or Someone prays and dissappears
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legend of Venomangel Tech: thats a character thats invisible to you
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dogstar Tech: thought so!
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: is there a way to file a complaint on microsoft's site? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they definitely make it hard to find...
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tokaden Tech: anyone know when why when im streaming anime i get split screen?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchanterman Tech: hey im windering how to install scripts on mush client this is what i wanna install http://frostblade.net/aardwolf/plugins/threemoons.html
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it says, right-click the link and select 'save as'...then in mushclient, go to file -> plugins, click "add"...navigate to it
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enchanterman Tech: ahh didn't see the file -> plugins part
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone here use chrome and experience memory leak?
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: all the time, my docters are working on it
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: my Chrome suffers massive memory leak all the time.. its ridiculous
T3/r3/2011-03-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: YES
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Does the spellup plugin made by Gammon work with the latest Aardwolf client?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no. don't use it.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Really? =(
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's old and janky anyway. use Bast's spellup plugin instead.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: probably will still work, but not with the custom preloads?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: gagh, laggy :P
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it won't work on its own without a bunch of extra files, because the new client doesn't do new world creation, since new worlds were a horrible hack
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Does Bast's auto-cast like Gammon's did?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I believe the previous version of bast's spellup was a miniwindowified version that I made of his remake of it, and then the latest version is completely new
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: What do you mean won't do new world creation?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: technical mumbo jumbo. don't worry about it.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: inicus: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Right. No idea what the plugin did anyway, never used it. Wrote my own clunky non regex alias.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Alright, thanks Fiendish =)
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: So I installed the spellup plugin and got disconnected when I tried to add it
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Gave me an error about decompressing text from the mud: -5
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try again
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: I did
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It just disconnects me whenever I get to the login screen
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: It's disconnecting me for receiving too many lines too quickly
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure you follow bast's instructions
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stick it Inicus Tech: Oh, there's my problem =X
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: topologically speaking, trees are wheels :)
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: hello techy types, i have come with a question in regards to the aardwolf mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Actually, just go to your Commands menu, and check the auto-repeat option
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: Nice dude. Well done!
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: hah
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I didn't see a question
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: hes that good
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Sorry F, he asked on Newbie first :)
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: they asked on newbie first ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaden Tech: shouldve played it off like you were psychic
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: anyone here use a macbook pro or OSX?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Hey, anyone know about the timestamp feature ni the aardclient comm log window?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click and look in the menu list.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: I know, I just did. But initially it was just timestamping tells, and leaving channels unstamped.... now I changed it, and it's timestamping everything.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: was wondering if there's a way of setting it back to how it was?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think it is all or nothing. You might want to go to http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/ and post a suggestion for it to timestamp each individual channel.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: betreyal, just ask your real question
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: im tryin to setup a enw macbook pro, but damned if i can get the mouse to left click...
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: i realize ctr+click = rick
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: err rclick
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: Um, no it was not, I'mscrolling up now, and it used to be eg., 17 Mar 06:24 - XXX tells you 'can i please get a CR?' and (Group) The group has been disbanded by Salvanas. etc...
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: i just want to left lick:)
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess steve doesn't want you to right click
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: now I'm getting [17 Mar 23:06:11] Tech: was wondering if there's a way of setting it back to how it was? ... and even the timestamp's changed from how it was, even though i selected the same option it was originally.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but honestly, i have no idea. last time i tried to configure magic mouse to scroll. never saw it happen
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: im just using the scroll pad on the laptop..not even an external mouse
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: ... well, nvm then. I'm guessing the original config must be a custom setting, which i overwrote by choosing a default setting.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Want Some Betrayal Tech: okies..may just redo this and try again
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how does one turn off basts tabwin debug
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demoniacal Agramon Tech: in cmud...i got a message saying.. errortrigger fired but did not compile, how do i correct this?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: the syntax in the trigger is wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: go into the settings editor, find the trigger, edit it, in there, go up to, I think tools, and click check syntax
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: It should give you a clue of what's wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demoniacal Agramon Tech: okay, thank you
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: my hdd SMART is fine, benching tools show excellent results, fragmentation level is 0, but yet download speeds reach 1.5 MB/s max and 'Disk overloaded' message appears. What is the problem ?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I've been able to download at 10 MB/s several months earlier, now 1.5 at max
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: there must be something wrong with your HDD
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: even a low end HDD can do 40-60 MB/s
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: in perf monitor, utorrent is the only process with high disk usage and still at 1.5 MB/s disk queue is 5
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: buffer setting? anti-virus/fragmentation program running in the background?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: av almost doesn't use disk at all (about 200 kb/s reads), defrag is on schedule, buffer is 512 MB RAM
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thats a big buffer...my cache is set at 32 mb and thats a lot already
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: strange, but disabling write cache solved the problem
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ah, it didn't, now UT grabs 2 gigs of RAM
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: are there any good resources other than Bast for good plugins for mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: Aard custom ones that is
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: standard vga monitor cable has 15 pins right?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: any user of AC3D?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: is there a vorpal counter for the mushclient for aard?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: you could write one
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i doubt that
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: they aren't terribly complicated
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: is there a vorpal counter for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not yet.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast is working on it.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: cool, any eta?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He is adding assassinate, deathblow, and other similar attacks to the stats mini-window.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: cool, only way i know how many deathblows i get is if my percentage keeps going up
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: actually there is a per session one available. google sharptracker
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: As for an estimate time of arrival, it depends on his work. On a side note, vorpals are being counted right now as a total he mentioned to me.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: it is a bit older so will need to change the trigger text for vorpal and skill increases but that isnt too hard.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: being counted, but just not shown yet?
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Kinjin: Correct.
T3/r3/2011-03-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: wow, i'm impressed
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: what is spellheaders affected noprompt mean i get a big spam on it
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: mushclient 4.72
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: you have bast installed?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: add a %c at the end of both your prompts
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: does this look right for a trigger for gq's Global Quest: Global quest # * has been declared for levels * to *.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, if you see the text it is in your range, so you don't need to trigger on the whole line.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: aye but if i want to trigger a sound for when ther eis a gq
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: thats why i just put wild cards in was just wanting to make sure it was right
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, even to humans faced with the same problem, the actions would be the same, a very low percentage of the human population would react in time to avoid being run over.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: it should work
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the fight of flight reflex is more like is nearly always preceded by a freeze.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sorry, mis again.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malarian Tech: I'm having trouble using triggers on Mushclient on WinXP. I can get the response I need when the trigger happens but it relies on me hitting the enter key before the action takes place which kind of defeats the purpose. Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: do you have it set to "Send to: command"?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malarian Tech: send to world. I'll try command instead. thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: no, world is correct, I was just trying to guess where the error may be
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malarian Tech: Ohh
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: what are you trying to trigger?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malarian Tech: Starting simple with responses to hunger and thirst
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Does anyone have any article recommendations for someone who is wanting to get started making video games? I'm mostly looking for things like how to design the transition between the menu screen and the actual game levels, simple things like that. The basic structure of how the game loads stuff and handles resources.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you know how to program?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: folk go to computer schools to learn that ?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I've dabbled in programming here and there, but haven't really latched onto anything big yet. I'm just putting out my feelers for good articles to start off with.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: articles - as in journalism?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I don't intend to make the next Oblivion or anything. XD Perhaps the next Minecraft.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: As in howto things. Tutorials. Whatever gives some good info. I'm lookin on google but just wondered if anyone has read anything that stuck out to them as something to recommend.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: do you know about basic data structures, memory management and stuff like that?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: learning how to program would be the first step to programming anything.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: games programming is a fairly complicated topic
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless there is a (likely commercial) software package with extensive tutorials for dummies with rudimentary progrmming skills: "Yes, you too may design and create a video game"
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: before going into that, you need to know about data structures, algorithms, memory management ... and of course, basic programming.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: i echo data structures lol, CS undergrad at ivy league here haha
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: this hypothetical software package for dummies is supposed to take care of all that overhead
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: if there were such a thing then games based on that package would be worth nearly nothing by competitive forces
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Eh, you guys are right. I'm probably reaching kinda high. I've just never been able to get into serious programming on tuts alone. I need something that holds my interest to latch onto, I'm hoping that designing a game might be the thing. But, it is a lofty goal.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: well u need to be great at graph theory and algo for sure
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's a good goal. The reason I started programming when I was 14 was that the computer by dad brought home from work didn't have any games on it.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Hahaha, awesome.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I've always wanted to make a MUD from the ground up too. That might be a better first big project than making a video game.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: yea its not a bad thing to be inquisitive
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I'm just really frustrated that nobody can seem to make a decent animal sim and I want to make an animal sim of my own. XD
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ref: simant
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Yeah, that was a good one. But the other ones I've played are bleh.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Animal Planet made a game and I thought it'd be amazing. It turned out to just be a multiplayer deathmatch with animals :/
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Doesn't reward you for actually knowing how animals work.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: turok
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: my minwin is stuck at 9 mins of double and my qtimer is off, how can I reset those specific variables?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins reload bdbl" and "plugins reload bqu"
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: thanks bast :)
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it hasn't updated though
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then reload the quest and double plugins in the plugin window
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: both the miniwin and broadcast
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, will do. thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there a way to expand variables in the command line of mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Working with the gmcp mapper in the Aard mush... Is there a way to link an alias to the mapper's portal list. It only seems to work with 'enter' as the keyword.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: mapper portal ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I tried that, but it's tossing back errors.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: such as?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Gimnmie a sec, I keep purging the thing.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: 'You don't see a bag
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Whoops, I killed it with the semicolons.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: does the alias work?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: double ;; it
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: It looks like it's trying to look or examine the alias.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Haha, it doesn't. I'm stupid.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: And bingo. Thanks for the advice, as easy as it was.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I find for stuff like that its easier to just make an alias in mush and have the mapper use that alias
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'm seeing a couple of what seem to be false exits in the mushclient mapper at underdark, up and down from room 27103, I've checked it with the gaardian map, and tried going up/down in the room but they don't exist, any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when areas change entrance locations you may have to manually remove exits from rooms
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just right-click on the room with the bad exits and edit them
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Didn't know that I could do that, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the more you know. SWOOSH!
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient r375 snapshot download is now up
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any way to change the auto-indenting on notepad++ so that it indents If..then..end clauses properly? My "end" phrases are currently a pain to indent
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: nm... old habits of indenting with 2 spaces instead of tab...
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Most people use 4 or 8 spaces..
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 8 spaces is ginormous
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: indeed
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: tab indenting is evil, unless you use ts=8
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Right.. 2 spaces is much more managable if you're not using a proper coding program
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I prefer 4 spaces, but I kind of gave up trying to regulate tab width in my lua stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I prefer 4 as well
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: too many different tools on too many different platforms don't indent properly
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or more importantly unindent properly
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: weird. have a laptop with sempron 3300+ processor. it's running on 798MHz for some reason. should be 2GHz
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same thing in xp and live linux enviroment
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no bios settings that can be modded
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Meaning the BIOS doesn't have the settings or that the values already appear to correspond to a 2GHz setting?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't have the settings
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Could it be overheating and getting throttled back?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i figured that, too. the temp is at 50C right now and i've cleaned the fans and applied fresh thermal paste
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Hmm...
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: slax is actually snappy and working ok on it. can't say the same for xp
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I would guess a less-obvious BIOS setting might not be on the right value (e.g. voltage), but I know very little about overclocking, etc.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the bios has almost no settings. stupid entry level amilo junk
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you can set the time, enable/disable the touchpad, change boot order and that's about it
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and load optimized defaults, what ever that does
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone around who knows how to build an installer for a c# program?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I can't imagine why building an installer for a c# program would be in any way different than building an installer for any other program
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it probably isn't but I have no experience with either, so rather than trying to figure out the differences between two different languages, was hoping to find someone with experience with the language I'm using :)
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: installer creation tools typically don't care what language your program was written in
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: check out NSIS
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: k, will do
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is the regular expression to match R0 to R31?
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: in mushclient is tehre a way to disable a trigger without deleting it
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Click on the enable check in the trigger you created on the top right side.
T3/r3/2011-03-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: tried that, its still firing
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone running mush on mac?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Tried, but the graphics looked really distractingly distorted under wine
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i'm using crossover. it works but has some lag to it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: where the regular mush runs like a champ
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: can anyone help me with making a trigger to send exits and room name to a channel when I move to a new room? tried using the aardwolf exits detector but have no clue what I'm doing
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: how do i move a window in mush if the top is off the mush window?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: update to a mushclient with miniwindows
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: or go to window, and click cascade, tile, etc
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: yup forgot about cascade. thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dr Jek Tech: I do suggest updating to the new aard mush with winiwindows, sooooo much nicer
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody crazy that in this day and age you can't contact the uk equivalent of the IRS by email
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ours is 100% online
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: you can call, they are quite nice and efficient
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you can -apply- for stuff online, but ammend it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i could
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody phones
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: I'm not sure what I changed, but is there a way to set your color scheme back to its original defaults in Windows 7?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't see why people insist on them, i can give all the pertinent information via email, in detail, without mistake, at my own pace, and not be reliant on their unhelpful opening times
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: win key -> type "theme"
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok then don't call, and send the question to a different IRS...:)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Technologically I'm handicapped. Win key like a key or something on the computer? :/
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: click start then
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: I think it's more likely they don't accept emails because emails are too difficult for public servants to understand, after all, they only recently mastered walking on two legs
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: no, email is bad because the mother of the fools is always pregnant (number of useless emails to reply to)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i suppose i could claim that i tried to contact them, but they didn't have email
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: that would not go a long way if you owe them money :)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't, yet
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: but seriously, via phone is very swift
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it almost certainly isn't
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but also inevitable
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: they even have an expat service, that deals with difficult situations
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was never called Pat, so that's no use to me
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just need to inform them of change of basis on which tax credits were offered, as it's based on the last complete year of earnings
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so actually i'll probably end up with them giving me less, the bastards
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: most likely, they tell you which form you need to file and send
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is another waste of effort, should just be able to give them a figure and they should be able to sort it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so move to singapore...tax is a matter of 5-10minutes x year
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: and it's about half of the UK :)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wrong direction
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: too many people and too built up
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: well, with frank dodd and all, singapore likely to become hub for derivatives clearing and dealing in the world. + all the SEA offshore wealth...I thought myself is a bubble...but changed my mind
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Hmm... Well, it's really only one thing I want to change back. Usually when I move a window to the edge of my screen it gave this glassy effect to show where it enlarges to. Now it only makes a nevative color border.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sure it's probably nice if you like crowded places full of people
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Got any idea what I'm talking about?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: less crowded than HK and NY for sure
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wouldn't move their, either
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no idea, sammael
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Crownless Sammael mutters something quietly to himself.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though not knowing what program you're talking about doesn't help
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: I said earlier, Windows 7
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't that normal behaviour for windows 7?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: notable because the clever window manager doesn't work properly with dual monitor setup, either
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: golfclap microsoft
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not sure if you can turn it off
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-7/disable-the-mouse-drag-window-arranging-feature-in-windows-7/
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: It's not something I turned on or off... I think. But it used to give this smooth glassy appearance
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried switching to one of the built in themes?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: (Apologies for the delay. Was on the phone)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Yeah I tried going from oen theme to another but gave same result
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's probably a display feature that's been turned -off-
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i made mine look like windows 2000 at work because i was new to it, but it caused all kinds of weirdness so they had to set it back to w7
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i personally rate W7 as an piece of crap, but I guess they needed something a bit more stable after the horror of vista
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but, modern users want a gaudy slick OS that runs software at the speed of molasses, whom am I to complain?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w7 is awesome
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaylo Tech: I'm awesome!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: using w2k theme, btw. no issues with that
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it so isn't
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i spend a measurable portion of my work day waiting for w7 to unclog itself
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Vista was a bit of a screwup yes
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: name a better desktop os then
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the same software runs on xp at mroe than double the speed
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Windows 8 coming out next year, luckily.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: xp, clearly
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp doesn't even support new hardware properly
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, microsoft doesn't support xp, which is why the new hardware doesn't support xp
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i would never downgrade to xp if my computer can run w7
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dx10 and dx11 not running on xp was a marketing choice, not a technical one
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: same with ie9
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: I agree with Dagnir. I'd never want to use XP after seeing what W7 can do
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no difference. the fact is that xp doesn't do lot of neat stuff 7 does
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Windows 7 is prettier, too.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i have less problems with customers after swapping xp for 7
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i'm going to put an extra category in my pms at work called "waiting for w7 not to be shit" and add time to it, and see what the bosses think
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: consumer laptops. even total morons can handle 7 better than xp
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: way harder to break, easier to secure
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh, it is that
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's pretty-rock like, the OS itself rarely if ever crashes
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and yes, it's pretty
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but it's still molasses
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't like aero, personally
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: too much screen estate under gloss
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i installed the beta of netbeans 7 for fun on friday. I couldn't use it because it was forever reporting slowness and sending error reports
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Though yes, windows 7 IS slow as crap
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: I was surprised at how slowly things are copied from flash drives
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it wasn't just unusable, it was -physically- unusable
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no idea what you're trying to do, but my w7 install is SNAPPY
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Though right about now I'm going to format my computer and install Win7 Ultimate. This home basic crap sucks due to no aero
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: comes out of sleep in 2 seconds, boots super fast
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at work, predominantly working with web and j2ee stuff on netbeans
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: The install is fast, it's just the copying over of files
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, yeah, forgot to mention that i can only vouch for ultimate
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so in reality buying a mac and pay the hardware premium gives you the advantage of not dealing with bad microsoft software?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Home Basic is basically shit
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well at home i'm going to be sticking with xp
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Compared to what I have seen, that is.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: I've also experienced a lot of lag when trying to write Delphi programs on Win7
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i think microsoft put in extra waitstates on anything programming-related that isn't done in visual studio
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: attempt to make it feel like c# is faster
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: I sure hope they didn't. School projects take me FOREVER to write
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nah, they can jump, i'm sticking with xp at home. for good
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll outlive me
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Every 2 mins I have to run my program to test it, and then I wait a few generations before it starts up.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Hmm.. Windows XP was fun for file management, I'll give ya that
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never cared about frills, just wanted something that worked quickly
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crownless Sammael Tech: Nod. But file management isn't as much a thrill and more a neccesity
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I put a tab space on zmud
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: \t?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: haven't tried
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well not working it's not straight c or basic
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroarda Kyroda Tech: can i mass message on windows live messanger a particular group of contacts? or can i send a message to more than 1 person at once (same message)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Is there a reasonable way to copy stored GMCP map data between two clients?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if they write to similar style, ie xml
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't store GMCP data, it's transient
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may make a database of the room info for future reference, but everything else is sent as changing data...invalid after that moment in time
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Perhaps I'm confused then, where is the graphical map database stored in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the database you had your client make is not gmcp data anymore
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Gotcha.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a sqlite database file
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Okie dokie.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can access it from anything which can use sqlite calls
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi, wanna ask
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Don't ask to ask, just ask
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: do they have any software which allow you to ping to get the respone
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I'm really just trying to update the database from one muschlient to another, just looking for the file.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: from the server,and if the server down will auto send
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reina, fiendish already answered you on tech board
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You got an answer to your note
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: the alert respone to your mobile phone?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: oh..let me check
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: is it freeware?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Should have been the first place you checked
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hypo, there's helps for that in the upgrade page
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Look it up and see
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Thanks, Abe.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: is it freeware?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: no, it's GPL-2
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Horizontal HyPo thanks you heartily.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only use -e on grep when I want to use multiple patterns in a single search...
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :P
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods :P
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neocypher Tech: is there anyone here that uses ubuntu as an os?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neocypher Tech: i need advice on a mudclient for linux
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger raises his hand.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Use Wine!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: use mudlet
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mushclient through wine
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: tintin++
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin++, tinyfugue and mudlet all run natively...
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient (like aard's tricked out one) and zmud run under wine
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neocypher Tech: thanks guys
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Mushclient runs perfectly for me under wine.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin++ and tinyfugue are command-line-only clients, no buttons & such...mudlet is a multiplatform GUI client
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: zmud runs under older versions of wine. It has teen-angst sorts of issues with newer ones for whatever reason.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: cmud, though, it runs just fine under the latest wine.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: can anyone tell me how i could play aard on my iphone, other than the mud apps, none work for me
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've gotten lots of use out of Touchterm Pro, but just bought iSSH and have liked it so far
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: wich would you recommend, if say, i were a friend asking?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on whether you plan to use it just for MUDding, or if you're a unix geek ;-)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: just mudding lol i leave the unix to my buddies
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm using on an iPad, so iSSH has the advantage of being a dual app, while touchterm pro is an iphone app...that wouldn't matter if you're just on iphone...iSSH can also do multiple connections, but that again may not matter to you
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iSSH also has an Xserver to show unix X11 apps, but again, won't matter to you :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: abelinc is the ipad anygood? is it like a huge iphone?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: lmao it looks like a huge iphone
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it pretty much is, yup
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: ok so for just aardwolf enjoyment, which would be best to use
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: how's the internet connection work on it?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: like say you're in the middle of the arctic
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either one will get the job done, really...I recommend using one of them to connect to a computer which is running a real MUD client, like tintin++ or tinyfugue
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has wifi as well as a 3g connection...in the middle of the arctic, I don't think there's many cell towers
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: i use MUSHclient, and i'll have to do some reading to learn to connect to my pc with my phone lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: if its an iphone you could just use logmein...
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so unless your arctic outpost has wifi, you wouldn't be online with it there :P
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't recommend using a phone to remote desktop/logmein/etc to a GUI client
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: sattelite network possibly
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: i just got my iphone a week ago, so im still in shock and awe over all the random stuff it can do
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: satellite networks aren't compatible with cell cards
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that will fade trihex
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's an Apple product, it sucks.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: something new will come out next week
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: don't destroy my dreams, nooooo
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i tend to agree with ya there star
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: naw i got the original iphone from a friend of mine lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: the 2g
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I still need to jailbreak/whatever my ipod touch, sigh.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Whatever it takes to be able to drag-and-drop songs onto it.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i'm so tired of dealing with the ipod's incredibly weak firmware
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: one little file header gets corrupted and boom "No Music"
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and the sad part is that it was an UPDATE from iTunes that caused it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: if I connect my ipod to itunes it kills it now. so I only use winamp to manage it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have winamp 2.91. Would I need to 'upgrade' to the later, bloated versions?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: probably yea for the drivers
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: sigh
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: does it work for you?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: if you download the free version and uncheck the mp3 bundle it isnt too bloated
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea it works great for my ipod classic 120
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you might have to get additional drivers for touch or phone
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea you do but they do have them
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i <3 my Winamp. I can put songs on, copy songs off other people's ipods, manage vids, etc.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neocypher Tech: linux wine windows emulator
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: It's not an emulator.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: wine i snot an emulator
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: is* not*
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it is :P
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I know :p
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Nope!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's it's name though :P
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not its name, either
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neocypher Tech: does all basts plugins work with new mushclint? and where can i get them pls
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Wine doesn't do any CPU emulation, that's the arguement for 'Wine is not an emulator'.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Moot point, but there it is
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but "emulator" is not "cpu emulator"
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is a syscall emulator
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Kinda, sorta. http://wiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Heh, it's a much debated topic.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not all that much debated by those who know what they're talking about...fanbois like to debate it :P
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the name itself, often referred to as "Wine Is Not an Emulator" actually didn't mean that...it's a backronym, an acronym definition created after the name was already in use...its name truly mean WINdows Emulator when the project was started...
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: He speaks the truth.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Backronym, I like that. heh
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the old-school Mac people, it's much like the difference between Insignia's "SoftPC" and Connectix's "VirtualPC" (later bought by Microsoft and became the core of their server virtualization)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SoftPC pretended to be Windows, while VirtualPC pretended to be Intel hardware
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Ya, that's a good analogy.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: When most people think of emulators, they think of pc virtualization.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Console emulators ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I suppose that's the only reason they push the issue.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i think of my 1000+ snes games that I can take with me anywhere on my psp :)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: emulators ftw
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Exactly, Vagus. I've got every NES and SNES game ever made on my netbook. Comes in handy.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Hope you have the cartridge boxs for all those
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: invaluably so
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: hey hypo how big are the games add together?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: jk^^
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Course I do!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Oh geez, lemme check for ya.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: my entire SNES library takes up 2.5gb on my psp stick
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have all SNeS, NES, n64, and Sega games on my external drive
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i reckon anything more than 100m?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the NES and sega games are even smaller
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: wow..
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: i mean mb. but anyway wow incredible
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nice being able to save at any point all the to hard Nes games from childhood and go back and beat them finally ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: no the largest SNES game is like 32mb
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if you zip them up you can compress them down alot
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: agreed
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea most emulators will decompress zipped roms
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why would you need the cartridge boxes? The copyright twatwaffles aren't going to come knocking.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: 3 GBs total for both systems.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: nice
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: not for nes, snes, sega titles
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I could never beat Solomans Key for Nes as a kid, couple key saves and bam, beatable !
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ah, Solomon's Key. I have the actual game in my closet. Hard as hell.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: mmm twatwaffles... now im hungry
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: anyone ever play shadowgate?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: actually the hardest NES game i own is Abadox
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: marble madness ftw!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i've mastered marble madness
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I've now beat FF7 on my ps1, ps3 and emulator. There's something wrong with that.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i'm insane at it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: yeah i did too eventually, was so fun ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian shrugs in response to Horizontal HyPo's question.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i've been all final fantasys from 1-9 at least 3 times each ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the bad part was i was almost beating the ultimate one without even using the speed boost lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i didnt even know there was a speed boost til a few years ago lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i didnt really like 8
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: 8's one of my favorite
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Horizontal HyPo beams a smile at A Nimwit Velian.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: but it seems to be big hit or miss
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: people hated or loved it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i loved 9 tho so *shrug*
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the card game was great
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: 9 was fantastic
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: 10 was meh, 10-2... yeah let's not go there.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea dont get me started on that crap lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: 9 was pretty strange
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i liked the card game in 8 a lot
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: tidus! come play water soccer! we neeeed you!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Blitzball sucks.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian flails his head up and down... you can see the blonde roots.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: nothing beats changing outfits to get different powers though...
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: Today i think i'll were my gardening skirt so i can charm the might elephants!!! wth...
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Lol, right.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: watch they don't spray your pretty pink socks of fluffiness
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: honestly in ff10, i wanted the bad guy to win
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: FF1 was the best one ever imo^^
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i kind of need to play it again now just so I can get the story. i don't remember it at all.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i liked ff6 (ff3 on snes)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: 2 and 3 were my alltime favorites
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: Terra/Locke/Sabin/Edgar ftw
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: 3=6, 2=5
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: agreed Velian
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: 4 was never released in the usa until recently
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: 2 != 5
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: 5 is different
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: it has dragons
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: 2 == 4
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ahh sorry switched em
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: thats right
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i knows my FF lore heh
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: in the usa 1,2(4),3(6)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i do too ;) but you slipped up too hehe
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ohh wait you were saying 2&3, 4&6, gotcha
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ever try Terranigma?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: can't say i did
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i enjoyed it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: spinnoff of 6?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: kinda easy once you get going but kind of an early precursor to Secret of Mana
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: action-rpg
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ahhh
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: Secret of Mana was awesome too
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and of course, the always awesome Chrono Trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: one of my favorites
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: much better then legend of mana, but yah Chrono Trigger!!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the music from Chrono Trigger will be burned into my soul forever
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian nods.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i still play it again every year just to immerse myself the soundtrack
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: Chrono Trigger was one of those games that will live forever.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: wasn't it sighted to be Final Fantasy 7, but they decided it was too different from the FF series so they went for a new title?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: it was one of the few SNES games to retain its full retail value well after the n64 was released
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: heh and it's worth more then that now
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: idk i'd never heard that but it wouldn't surprise me
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yep and I still got my cartridge copy :-D
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: last i saw the cartridge version is worth like 40-150 depending on condition, etc.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: hell yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i stll have the box and all that
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: sitting next to my golden copy of Ocarina of Time hehe
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i have all my old cartridge games ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i have all the golden zeldas ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: will up to majora's mask
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i stopped buying console for a long time, cause i didn't care anymore.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Not sure my Nes would work anymore... havent used it in years... last time I did took alot of finagling to get the games to load up.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: blow in it!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: buy a new card reader online, and replace it ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: i bought a 5 dollar broken nes from a shop and bought a 10 dollar brand new card reader, replaced and works great ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: lol, would blow in it, leave the game slightly hanging out, press the game all the way in, back and forth, up and down !
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you gotta blow in the cartridge, jiggle it inside the console
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: nothing beats paper clipping it to the perfect "fit"
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: stick another game in on top of it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: or using another cartridge to hold it down *grin*
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ah memories
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: here's some crazy nes music: FF2 (or 4), Surface of the Moon
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that and the fight music against Zeromus is awesome too
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: on flash. im trying to use actionscript navigateToURL. i works for link to .html but not php. anyone knows why?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamin Tech: I have a quick cmud question and am a newbie - is this the right place?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: It certainly is!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamin Tech: NICE! Is there a way to make the line length longer in CMUD? I have a wide display, but can't seem to figure out how to make it show the text wider...
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: like it's wrapping before the end of the line?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamin Tech: it shows what I type quite wide, but as I'm reading all these help scrolls and such, they are very limited in line length.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: or the end of the screen i mean
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ahh no
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: that's a mudside wrap
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it wraps mudside, you can't do anything about that
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: as you can see chat's will not, but that's a mudside design.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamin Tech: bummer. so - it just is what it is?
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian noddles his head in agreement.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamin Tech: - correct! it does show other stuff longer.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kamin Tech: OK - well thanks anyway - I appreciate the quick help!
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: gladly.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: is there a function in mush that tells the alias to wait so many seconds before continueing with the rest of the commands. making a alias the will rt sendhia using the gmcp mapper commands for mush
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: stop botting
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: omg
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: really thats your answer
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: sad
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, that was two answers
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "yes" and "stop botting"
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish beams with pride.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arch-Mage Raistlin freaks out, screaming "Oh My Bot!"
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: actually 'yes' was the answer, stop botting was a command, had nothing to do with his question
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: na just being a ass as far as i see it
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: well not directly that is.
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=DoAfter
T3/r3/2011-03-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for one possible way
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I know i asked this a while back, but i seem to have lost the original, what would be the sed match to remove all the color codes a terminal outputs?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ie, green tech shows up as "^[[33mtech"
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I remember that ^[ is a special char, i just can't remember the key combo i used to achieve it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Looks like the backspace
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Aha
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ctrl+v+esc
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Any idea why this isn't working? --> sed 's/^[[[0-9]+;[0-9]+m//g' ~/tintin/log.txt >> ~/tintin/logs/log.txt
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: speak of the devil
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Huh?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i was just talking about how you pk'd me
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bastard
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Heh
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hey now, you jumped me :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: yea the armchair avenger reminded me
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: but i have no idea of the nerdy question you had
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: er techy, same diff
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: im too dumb so
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: therefore.. cheezburgers are the devil
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: but momma said... girls are the devil!
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: and chilifries..
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ok, new problem, how do i insert the esc sequence in nano text editor? Copying and pasteing doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ctrl-v and then press escape
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Tried
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: cheese!
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ctrl+v is nano next page
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok, switch to a better editor then :)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I tried that too
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: vi throws a fit when i hit esc
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: in works in vi at least and emacs as well
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you have to go to insert mode first
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Correcty
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i love going into insert mode
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: vi update_log.sh, i, down down (puts A for down though)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: wrong channel :)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you cannot navigate in insert mode
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Sec
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you can navigate by feel in insert mode
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: thats hot
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, can't backspace in edit mode either?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hey, it's not late night everywhere...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: oh, god..
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tech I can backspace in insert mode
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: self... restraint....slipping....
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it's del not backspace
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not for me, but it depends on your keyboard settings
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, and also still can't ctrl-v esc
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I hit ctl-v that works, i hit esc it does nothing
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hmm.. strange
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you don't get a ^[ ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hmm, but i could c/p it now
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lets see if it works
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Typ, works now :)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: yup*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: thanks ran
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr does the happydance with everyone !
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: All that trouble just because i don't want to look at that ugliness when i grep :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: in the logfile?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: get your priorities in order, hippie!
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: how dare you! I'm the hippy round these parts, mister
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: #help log
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: any able to help me firgure out whats wrong with Doafter (5, "Execute("mapper goto 33321")")
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: isn't it DoAfter()?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ya i caught that but thats not whats wrong i get this compile error and dont understand why it says i need a )
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: [string "Alias: "]:2: ')' expected near 'mapper'
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you must escape quotes within quotes
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: of
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: the quotes
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: change 1 set to ''s or to \"
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ok and so i know what is the function of ' and \ in lua?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: sry noob coding here
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \ is the escape character for a string
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: To tell it to not think it's the end of the string
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: so DoAfter(5, "Execute('mapper goto foo')") should work
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient r378 snapshot download is now available
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: [string "Alias: "]:2: attempt to call global 'Doafter' (a nil value) stack traceback [string "Alias: "]:2: in main chunk
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: DoAfter
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: oh capatlazation
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: thnks for the help all
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: hey guys i need some crazy help lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lol crazy lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: my comps got a virus thats blockin my internet explorers internet
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but i can stil lget on this internet for some reason
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: like on this games internet
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so stop using internet explorer
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: cant
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Get Mozilla
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it blocks firefox too :(
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: or chrome
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i have all 3 :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: go fix your hosts file
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: when i try
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's in windows/system32/etc/hosts or something like that
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it says cant connect
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hackercon gave chrome a ranking of 500, mozilla a 150 and IE a 15
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe drivers/etc/hosts
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: chrome is harder to infect
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your mom is harder to infect
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Good for her
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah but when i open crome
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Fiendish, Predict double !
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: [Hour Double] [Rate: 116/min] [Mobs left: 31285] [Time: 4H:29M:]
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it just says connection not workin
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I was going to say 5 hours
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: liek the internet cable is unhooked or some crap
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I keep falling behind by a few minutes each time :(
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I made that script for mush too
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: few hours the east coasters start popping up and kills pick up
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: and Euros ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's friggin 3am here, i ain't staying up for it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elvendar yawns.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: so how is the internet on here getti nthrough but not on the explorers?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I need to trigger it to a loud as alarm lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: different port
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: also not using an infected client
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: weird as hell
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I sleep through noise. I'd want to rig it to an automotive ignition coil, and then connect that to my arm or something.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: rofl
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: well who needs fbook when you got aardwolf huh? lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: anyone have the hour double trigger line ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Facebook is lame
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: sec
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't have a facebook account.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling nods at Sheni.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: its a good way to keep up with the fight promoters and the fam tho lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ^{Mob Deathss+:s+[0-9,]+s+ddd,([0-9,]+)}$
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ^{Mob Deaths\s+:\s+[0-9,]+\s+\d\d\d,([0-9,]+)}$
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't have any fight promoters I want to keep up with
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Thanks Cheez
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i bet if i run it in safemode itll work...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: brb
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Or just do {chan ch=(%w)}(%2)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight im back
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i havnt used a vista in sooo long
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: with f key do i push to bring up the option of runnin in safemode ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: what f key*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: F8 F10?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: f8
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: thanks man
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: brb
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: hey guys im back
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i ran a full virus scan
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: and removed em
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but i still cant acess the IE8 browser :/
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: reinstall
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: how? cant access the internet :/
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why do you need to access the internet to reinstall teh OS? :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you don't know what you're doing, restore disk is always the quickest and most effective route
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i gotta a lot of files i cant get rid of like that
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: back them up
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: a lot of files...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: any way i could just download IE8 again without using IE8 or download firefox or somethin through this port?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you have important files, it's important you make provision to back them up
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: uninstall it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll revert to ie7
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight brb
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: typically you need an external storage solution of a similar size to your pc's drivespace
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: shit it aint the web browser
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i brought up chrome and it said
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: this webpage is not available
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it actualyl gives me a reason tho
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: Error 102 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED): Unknown error.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: any idea what that means?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: virus probably fiddled with your dns settings
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: can you open http://74.125.232.49/ for example?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: not that
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but i know what your talkin bout
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i have a lynksis router
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you mean linksys right.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah sorry lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: its like a 192.1. at the end
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: go to the site gramdel said
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but i dont know it all and i i cant look it up
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: wouldnt open
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: just game me the error unable to connect like my internet is down or sumthin
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: which it obviously isnt lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: gave*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: windows xp, vista, or 7?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: windows vista :(
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: with IE8 or 7 i dont remember
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but if u google lynksys router number ip thing
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it should give u the one somewhere that works for me
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't remember how to do it, but you want a command prompt elevated to admin level, and use netsh int ip reset resetlog.txt
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: to edit my router settigns i mean
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: no clue tiger lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but anyone know what im talkin bout to access my router?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone tell him how to get an elevated prompt?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a virus wouldn't have affected your router
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: hmmm
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: man on my realplayer internet browser it dosnt even work :/
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: says navigation to the webpage was canceled
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this a laptop with a recovery cd, or do you have a proper vista install disk?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: realplayer? people still use that?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i do for safer video downloads lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: realplayer doesn't have a browser, it embeds internet explorer
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ahh well
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: lol the realguide comes up like that tho
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i never use it unless i want a vid off of youtube real fast
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but thats besides the point
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i wanna know whats blockin my internet explorer access and why i can access this game
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: not applicable
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: warpigs whats that mean?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: internet explorer has nothing to do with this game
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: already made the best suggestion
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just means losing his porn, is all
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah but neither does chrome internet browser or firefox and they all dont work either
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: hey man not cool
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: this aint even my comp lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: accurate, though
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: its my granparents and hes a real estate sales man
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and doesn't have a backup mechanism?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ban him from using a computer
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i cant just go aorund deletin all his shit and we do have a lotta fmaily photos and shit too
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and shoot the person who advised him
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: a company computer?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: no our home comp
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: most people have no backup
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i live with em lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get him to buy a backup drive
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then back it up
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then run the recovery disk
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ranrr is right, hell they wont even change over to chrome or firefox cause they so used to IE lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing wrong with that
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: check proxy settings anyway
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: check for 3rd party proxy or internet filter software
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: check for proxy settings on the router
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: how?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it ain't going to be any of those
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i need that proxy number
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for..
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for..
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops mis
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: the one everyone with lynksys uses
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: the 192.1 one
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: to check the proxy?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has the owner changed it?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: pig suggested it and i guess thats what hes talki nbout
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if switching off the router, waiting 20 minutes, and turning it back on again didn't help, fiddling with router settings won't, either
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: command prompt - ipconfig - see default gfateway
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'll probably have the opposite effect
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah ive tried that unpluggin it thing only i left it unplugged for like an hour cause i was busy lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight command prompt. i know how to use that enuff
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: from linux experiance
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: only problem is.. how u do bring it up on a windows vista?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: start menu - run - cmd
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: windows+r, cmd
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: had to use the task manager thingy from pressing ctrl alt delete to find the run
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: and then i ran program command
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: got it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it says the tunnel adapters are disconnected
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they should be
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: ignore that
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight what am i looking for?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: default gateway
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: default gateway is ::
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: for tunnel adapter 6 which is not disconnected
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: default gateway for the connected adapter
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: default gateway for the connected adapter is what you want
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: well its :: right now. is that what i want?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight what and how should i change it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: what should i change it to i mean
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: ignore the settings for the tunnel adapters
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: maybe scroll up?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ethernet adapter?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: likely
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight its 192.168.1.1
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: that mean anything?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: that's the router IP
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: that what i use on the explorer to go to the settings for the router?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: cause it says invalid address
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: http://192.168.1.1
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i get the internet explorer cannot display the webpage :(
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: have another computer? do they all fail to connect to http://192.168.1.1 ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: dunno this is the only thing in the house that connects to internet
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: anything that would be suspicious in my task manager or command prompt?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: all kinds of things could be
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but you are, essentially, wasting your time :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: whys that?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: have any antimalware or firewall s/w? disable it?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couldv'e driven down to your local pc retailer, bought an external hdd, backed it up, and restored it by now
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: its 7am on a sunday lmao
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then wait 3 hours til it opens :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but damn warpig...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: someone downloaded an antimalware shit program
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: prob my gramma got duped into thinkin she needed an update or sumthin
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but i deleted the program file and the shortcut icon
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it was in my program data file
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: and i emptied the recycle bin of it and everything
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: support for vista ended on april 13 2010, oddly
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (if you have no service packs installed)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: have year heard the price of tea in China, lately?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: ???
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: going up, hopefully
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in your command prompt, try this
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: thats not gonna do anythin crazy right?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it says i need to be elevated
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: shoudl i restart the comp push F8 and enter the admin mode?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: nah
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: should*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since you have 3 hours to burn, might as well
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: then how do i become an admin in the cmb prompt?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: task manager - processes - see processes from all user - then run cmd
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: nice warpig
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: aight
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: it said resetting echo request failed
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: access denied
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: but everything said OK!
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: everythign else did i mean*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: test browser again
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: reboot first, jim
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: always reboot after a netsh
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: man you guys the biggest help ive ever had
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: if i dont come back it didnt work lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: anyways ill brb hopefully lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Travectan /
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: didnt work
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: its gotta be somethin blockin all the internet browsers somehow
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i just dunno what it could be
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: i used microsoft securit essentials to remove what it found
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: and it still aint workin
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: if u guys think of anythin else just let me know. im gonna mess around on here for a while
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone know why this http://pastebin.com/vyr6Gqy4 is giving Line 60: Elements terminated out of sequence, expected , got (Cannot load)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: cause /triggers in at 41
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: all the lua wizards go to bed?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: that is not lua problem, that is XML problem... and all I can think of is that you are trying to load different version, this one looks correct
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i just wrote it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: trying to convert alias to a script but failing
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: have beening looking at other scripts and copy pasteing and changing to suit
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: so the basic format would be correct
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looks like you have an extra end at line 59...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: hmm that may be it let me try
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: well i got a new error so thats a good sign hehe
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: next question i guess would be do all plugins need a id number if they are not going to be referenced any anyother plugin and if they do will the filed be automaticly providied or do i provided it and if i provided it how do i make sure it is 24 hex charaters ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: the id i copy and pasted from another plugin and the changed the last letter
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Raist, just go in MUSH. Edit->Generate Unique ID...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: HA! awesome
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: thnks alot btw all got it workin
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha never realized that names of groupies are red if they are evil and yellow if they are good in Fiendish's group monitor mini-window :)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: In MUSH, is there a way to correct parse a wildcard in an alias so that double ; still sends double ;?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you leave it as send to world, it won't do anything with the ;s
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's the problem, I need it to execute for a plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It will send double ; to a plugin command
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: you'd have to quadruple the ;s to reexecute with 2 ;s
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at FootLong Cheezburger.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: the first pass will parse ;;;; to ;;
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: then the second pass will parse ;; to ;
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Obnoxious, but I can work with that. four of them is a lot faster than typing a full command. lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Np
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You could do a search and replace inside the alias
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Maybe I'll do that.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Ie, if (string.match(string, ";")) string.gsub(string, ";", ";;")
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That will probably save me a lot of trouble, yeah..
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unforgivable Tech: I gotta say, the Aardwolf client is pretty incredible. I had been using cmud.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unforgivable Tech: Any idea how to configure mushclient to keep your last command like z/cmud does?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alt-0 Look on the right side.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not alt-f4?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ctrl_alt+del :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alt-0 and click the 6 box.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unforgivable Tech: Thanks Turie.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mushclient ought to have it's own channel
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts: If that is the case, zMUD, cMUD, TF, TT++, and so on should too.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: There are more mush related questions than all the other clients combined.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: and my client. though, that'd be a channel of one. but still.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs, was aimed at taking the traffic onto a dedicated channel
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: kinda reminds me of the mxit community sometimes
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: There are some nice legitimate questions often times though. Usually scripting.. heh
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm guilty of plenty
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: apparently i ask incomplete questions on tech
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was never particularly happen with the breech of tradition regarding clients
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know of an easy way to examine email headers that will allow point-and-click simplicity in seeing where an email passed through?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what breech?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Scripting questions aren't bad, but simple things that take almost no effort to look and find, and in fact take more effort to answer than if they person had actually looked, are another.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Haha, I agree
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: client neutrality
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the click-and-point is easy. Getting the email info is much more advanced and probably never easy.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Okay.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that's problematic then.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Meh, i think the breech was best for the aardwolf community. It allowed new players to actually have something stimulating for them to want to stay
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I think it would be best, though, if ports of the mush version were available for/by the player base for other client.s
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have an almost identicaly setup for tintin as the mush setup, somewhere on my comp, that i could offer.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they are
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's only really missing sendhia, crynn, and wildwood tho
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops mis
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's just a matter of offering.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger snickers with Tigernuts about their shared secret.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm a tradionalist, and tradition always was that writing scripts was a players' job, and part of the skillset you needed to mud
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a shame to see it gone
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: things change, don't get me wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's only an opinion
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm with Tigernuts on this one. Now any joe idiot can download a gqbot and become a winner.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's not gone, Tiger. Nothing about the new mushclient is actually hardcoded into the client.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what, like baal in it's entirety?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nick made a lot of changes to mush to support this, dokkar
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: well, yes and no. make a minor change to something, and those same people lack the skills to modify their scripts, get their bots caught, and get nuked.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so, it kind of self-regulates.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it's less important now because of the change in emphasis of the competition
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now we're in grindfest territory
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: different game
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: different requirements
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AT&T to buy T-Mobile USA for $39 billion in blockbuster deal
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: like all people of 'a certain age', I hanker after the past :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie nice to know the economy is recovering.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: won't that cause a monopoly though?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There goes T-Mobile. AT&T will screw it up.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie t-mobile's customer service already sucks
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Great, now T-mobile's service will suck too.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have AT&T, it's awful. No coverage anywhere outside of town.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling, can i take over your at&t contract ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i never had any problems with t-mob cservice
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wish my mobile had less coverage, then people would phone me less
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: T-Mobile Customer Service was the best among all the cell phone providers.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: they broke up some overlarge Telephone company before -- and At&T is getting bigger again
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts, i hardly ever get rung up.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: nod turie
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie verizon's is best
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Then again, maybe I will have more than 0 bars of signal in my bedroom. I'm upstairs and have THREE cell towers in plain line of sight, and apparently not one of them is AT&T.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are you not helpful in anyway?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: um no they aren't. i used to sell phones VD. Verizon is terrible
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling, can you fry an egg with those and a parabolic aluminum mirror?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Verizon Customer Service sucks horrible.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus verizon is terrible, but their customer service staff speak good english, and are cheerful and polite
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yes but not very capable
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no not capable. but polite and cheerful, and they speak english
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Verizon is too expensive for its coverage.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you have to get to tier 2 or 3 before you can really get things done
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus yep.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i have also worked in tech support call centers and know what their job entails. it's not hard.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't think i've ever called customer service for mobile company
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts i have.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are the customer staff speaking from India - tell by the phone lag -- the speed of light is so slow when long distance is ivolved
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xyliz, most of my calls go to either manila, phillipines, panama, or kerala.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: (heavy indian accent) Hello and thank you for calling NCR, my name is Steve, how can i help you?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Hello steve, how might I spell that?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: your name's not Steve dude
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: l
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: Sahteeve
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm glad it's not just us in the UK who think that
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ah, nice to meet you Sativa.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm sitting here following your conversation with a stopwatch waiting for someone to play the race card
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts, i didnt get one in the mail yet
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Bell Canada sucks, instead of giving jobs to Canadians, the unpatriotic greedy Bell gave the customer support jobs to overseas Indis
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: race card*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you bitch at them enough, they move them back
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xyliz maybe those overseas indies will stay in india rather than emmigrate to canada? maybe they think it will cut back on immigration
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as some of the UK insurance companies are finding
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling plays the race card: "All arguments directed at the person playing this card are immediately null and void, and the player may define any conclusion they wish to be true regardless of facts."
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: but you can always ask for a native english speaker with tech support
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Tigernuts i find it's more satisfying to just switch companies to the nearest big competitor
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats what happened here
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus yep, and they say, sorry, they are not available at this hour, please call back. click
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, that's jp morgan chase. for that call btw
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they can't click on you, they have to ask if you're satisfied with the call
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Harper Government wants to increase security and be tougher on crime by preventing those illegals entering Canada
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus not at jp morgan chase they don't
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: chase is my bank im familiar with them too
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i was nearly an illegal entering through Canada
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't bank with Chase either.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: For all of the T-Mobile "Flex-Pay" accounts, you can kiss your arss goodbye, because Flex-Pay will be a thing of the past with AT&T.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling i am considering switching, but it is such a hassle
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: y not
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: they're on back of the food card :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie at&t has 0 year contract service
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so wait... AT&T didn't buy Tmob did they?!
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that would be tragi
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus they're acquiring it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't you guys have pay-as-you-go contracts?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i.e contractless
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: pay as you go is a bigger ripoff than a contract
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They do not have flex pay VampireDude and suck because they are as greedy as Verizon.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts i tried it once, the customer service sucks if you're not on contract
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: agreed vag
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: really? i spend about $30 a year on my mobile
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie shrug, verizon's offshore banking is gonna bite it in the gonads one of these days
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: at a push
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I spend 15$ a month
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: point proved, then :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i spend around 60 a month, but i am considering not paying it for a month .
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: my last job was reimbursing me for my contract so it was free :-D
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Unlimited mobile to mobile, texting, 25meg on internet/month, 1k anytime minutes, unlimited nights&weekends
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, by relocating outside the coverage area, you could've got off contract for free too
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: such as if you move to costa rica
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers intently at Lost Vagus.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i did relocate outta the area. im in Peru now lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: let's see em send me a bill
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, so you would'nt have had that fee.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Peru, that's where the jumpers come from
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seen any Yaks yet?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: with sprint, you have to actually sign a physical contract in order to be liable for early term fees.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: I was a follower of Minter in the earlier days, so Yaks and Camels featured heavily in my childhood
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, i am trying out cricket right now
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i had sprint when i worked at radioshack, and got an employee plan that didn't require signing a contract
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think I might look at US Cellular.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my calls ring straight to voicemail many times... but i can dial out ok
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, us cellular has junk phones...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: better than altel had
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: sprint was awesome when there was a signal. pcs is signal or not.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: better than junk is not, 'not junk'
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Altel became part of Verizon or who was that....
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh i get signal. lots of signal.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Didn't say it wasn't still junk, just less junky junk
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Altel got bought out by verizon, nods
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but the thing of it is, if you're gonna spend 200 bucks on a phone, and pay activation fees and all that junk
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it seems silly to have to get a different phone for each carrier.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I flat out refused to update my contract, so i'm still on altel's contract and they quit trying to make me update
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol nice
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cheez, lol i did that with a bank credit card once
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: SOOOO much cheaper
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I can still update my phones when i want, but i stick with the same contract year after year
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: my contract expired a montha after i left the states anyways so t-mob doesn't even send me bills anymore. they just gave up heh
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, you could've renewed, gotten a new phone, and then left, and gotten off contract
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i got a new phone just beforehand
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if you go outside the service area for permanent residence, they don't charge the contract termination fee
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and now i can use it to call people with only a wifi signal :)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I had Verizon for year, but they were overpriced for my useage.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or rather, they wave it once you show them a lease/utility stub
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, how can i set a phone to do that =)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, yeah verizon here wants like 80$ a month for what i would use
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: pretty sure iphones can do it with skype
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: my android can do it through gmail
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, i dont have an android or an iphone at present
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i looooove gmail. free calls to US and Canada through google voice
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and i am not specifically sure how to make skype skype ^_^
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i downloaded it... but thats as far as i got
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I hope that AT&T will keep T-Mobile phone style where you can use a sim card between phones.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: create an account, add friends by searching for their emails, chat like AIM
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie at&t phones do that too
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, try calling me on google voice?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: my phone isn't on me its down in my locker
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh. what's the combination?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: 5 17 30
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I hope AT&T will keep T-Mobile's business model in Customer Service and contracts.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they'll keep it for a while at least during the transition
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, i dunno, t mobile's customer service really sucks in my humble opinion
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: or they'd lose too many clients
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: t-mob had the best customer service of all the providers, one of the main reasons i went with them
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my local t mobile corporate stores all got bought out by a local investor.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so now that the merger is taking place i bet that guy is rolling in it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vagus: I think they will lose 1/2 of T-Mobiles customers once their contracts ends.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, can't they break contract if their company dissolves anyways?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: probably something like 1/4-1/3
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: people use cells more than landlines nowadays
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, yep.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i haven't had a landline in like 5+ years
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus and its funny too, cause cell phones arent exactly ' secure' heh.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: no they're convenient
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus i dont have landline because at&t charges more for a landline with no cable /internet than they do for a cell phone
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: VampireDude: If they do, they will lose more than half of their customers.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: set up fees, installation and so on else. what a headache.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the wires are already active for lines one and 2... but they want me to pay a hookup cost to have a tech come out and say that for themself.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that's why you say you'll install it yourself and wave the onsite tech
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: gee thanks ma bell.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, they wont let me.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they want me to give them 2 contact numbers to set up residential land line service.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: bit ironic
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes, i expressed that to the phone rep.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wished T-Mobile took over AT&T.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: no chance in that unless AT&T went under first
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, i wish that congress didnt let verizon and at&t avoid tax liabilities the way they do
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: at&t's been around since Bell was broken down into pieces
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: one of those "too big to fail" companies...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: *cough* titanic *cough*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, they also do a lot of nice government obs
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jobs*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my local at&t does the defence departments fiber lines, and im sure that pays well.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they have government plans for state and fed. workers
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they're not going anywhere
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Verizon gives 19% discount for state workers.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie nice... here att gives discount on home service, but not mobile
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder when US Cellular and Sprint/Nextel will be bought by Verizon.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, i'm waiting for boost mobile to get bought by verizon, while re-licensing their iden technology to the us military
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: AT&T will pay roughly $39 billion to Deutsche Telekom for T-Mobile USA. Deutsche Telekom will also get a roughly 8 percent ownership stake in AT&T as a result of the deal. And a Deutsche Telekom executive will join AT&Ts Board.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: boost mobile lol. started by rappers, bought by military.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, t-mobile.de is a better company.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: maybe the t-mob exec will assist with making AT&T suck a little less
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: we should all be so lucky
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, i've heard some of those german management techniques can be quite effective.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: just ask Hitler!
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I hope that the Government does not allow the merger of T-Mobile and AT&T.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, his girlfriend was ugly.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i doubt they're gonna stop it turie
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie i think it could pose certain concerns given the government contracts at&t gets, and t-mobile's foreign ownership
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: government hasn't been very good at regulating anything about business
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i doubt the government is in the mood for an anti-trust/monopoly suit
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: especially since there's no monopoly as long as verizon exists
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: when they buy verizon too, then we're in trouble
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus are you sure.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: at&t could stop letting verizon use their towers.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: true enough but they wouldn't get a piece of verizon's pie then
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: as it stands verizon pays for the use
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right now they have equipment attached, and all they have to do is say, we're now requiring ' these certifications for equipment, your old equipment doesnt match, it can't be used'
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what would the world do now if the whole mobile infrastructure went down
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: use voice chat
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts, we'd experience an upsurge in home answering machines
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: google voice would become immensely popular
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: since it has voicemail
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus, teach me how to set up google voice on ma phone?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: your phone capable of apps?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobile phone use should be prohibited in public places, just like smoking and drinking alcahol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus maybe? how do i check
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is it a smartphone?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts the cell towers still beam right at ya, even if you arent carrying
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: vagus yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i think so
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it's smarter than i am?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so there should be a market link or something equivalent. go there and search for google voice aoo
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: app*
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah no i dont have my WAP settings configured
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the guy i talked to in kerala said he couldnt give them to me over the air
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to be fair, ban use of mobile phones in public -enclosed- spaces
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: or just install cones of silence in all public facilities
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: tigernuts i just want the fcc to revise its harmful interference rules and let people do cell phone jammers in private buildings =
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was thinking as much about the nuisance of them as the health impacts
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i always wondered, since the part 15 rules say that a device must accept harmful interference, does that mean you're not supposed to shield it against harmful interference? ^_^
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but there's as much argument on both grounds for banning them as fags
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Would never happen. The hipsters would throw a fit if they weren't able to post on their blogs indoors.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: they wouldn't be hipsters if they cared that much Starling
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok. maybe i should get a blog too?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: when they actually worked on xfiles
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: mt
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: cant mxit use a trigger that prevents from exiting the game while idling?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does mxit do triggers?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: don't believe so
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gohaan sulks in the corner. Baby!!
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mxit isn't a mud client :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: mxit got tons of muds on it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that doesn't make it a mud client
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renn Tech: if att buys tmobile then it won't honor tmobiles contracts
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: renn , that's good news for t mobile customers, they can get out of contract?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what annoys me though is t mobile does interest on their deposits, i doubt att will
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renn Tech: then the two major companies will again be att and verizon
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: renn, yep.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and verizon doesnt have much for phones you can go global with, so att is going to have an edge
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Renn Tech: and pay as you go straight talk i believe is verizon
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: wamp wamp
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I don't use the 'show prompts in the input window' feature of tinyfugue, nor do I want it to even try. I've tried setting lp=off and prompt_wait to 0 and it keeps spilling parts of random lines into the input window. Is there anyway to tell it to not even bother trying to parse prompts at all?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: does anyone know if bast's minimap plugin removes tags from roomnames and exits?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: how come i can't see the roomname tag even when it's turned on?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags aren't meant to be seen
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: oh hmm..i see them on an older version of mush though?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because the older version of mush doesn't know what to do with it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ah okay
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tags exist for scripts to use, not to be seen by humans...if you're seeing tags, it's because you don't have things configured correctly
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What does people think about the Motorola ATRIX 4G that has an AT&T Laptop Dock?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm... any incompatibilities with string width formatting in LUA for MUSHClient? I.E. string.format("|%.30s|", msg)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I can't seem to get any spacing to occur
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Or is there another function I'm looking for to add additional spaces as opposed to only truncating?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: was ftp ever finished in cmud pro?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: dunno I don't have cmud pro... :)
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is it worth it to go with pro vs the other?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: they are almost the same iirc pro just has ftp and a couple moe perks iirc
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ah ok
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: pro also you can use remote databases and will can also use sql light but that is about it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: sorry for the bad sentence lol
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it's all good
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ftp works in cmud pro afaik
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and pro has quite a few perks actually
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: for some reason i always get the problem stating it cant find the file im trying to upload
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ssh support alone is worth it imo
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yep unfortunatly aard doesn't have ssh set up i don't think
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, but i use it for other things :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh didn't think about that
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats why i was not sure if ftp was fully working
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: do i have to have the file im trying to upload in the cmud directory or can it be anywhere?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: should work from anywhere if you specify a direct path
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i open up the ftp dialog box and manually click the files and still nothing
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: might need to drag and drop
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i havn't used ftp with cmud usually use other programs
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: easier said then done, i dont have a mouse :P ... and even using the ftp command does not work with it
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can you do anything with it? open a connection?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I seriously considered cmud, but, after the bit with zmud, I can't ever bring myself to get it :(
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: zmud can't even compare with cmud
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i like cmud once i got pased the quirks
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: people forget that zmud hasn't been updated in 6 years now...
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Of course it can, they're both by zuggsoft. I purchased ZMud and then 4 months later here comes CMud. So, bad timing on my part, I agree, but, the problem was, I purchased from a company and got crapped on :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Doesn't make me a loyal customer
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: even if they're both by zuggsoft, they're different :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: as i said, zmud hasn't been updated in 6 years, so yeah, it's not very good anymore
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: CGI games always do that to players, buy this version, then few months later look more features! but cmud is going to stay for awhile
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: I can't disagree that they're different, just I can't see myself purchasing another product from the company :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: aye its not much dammage but it engages the whole room
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Who knows, cmud may become DMud when Windows 8 comes out :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: mt
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, you said this: Pirouette Tech: I seriously considered cmud, but, after the bit with zmud, I can't ever bring myself to get it :(
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so that sounds like you're not getting cmud because you didn't like zmud :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Myrkul, yes, after the bit where I bought zmud, and then they changed software almost immediately afterwards.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I had purchased Zmud back in the early 2000's. Somewhere along the line my puter crashed, and when I went to restore my ZMud, they had changed their log-in and had no record of my transaction.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Has nothing to do with quality of software. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rau Tech: he doesn't need to do dmud, now you just have to pay for upgrades because he changed the licensing
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Has to do with me being stiiiiingy :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, yes and no
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he makes his living by selling zmud and cmud
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i don't really like it either however im getting my moneys worth out of the software so it is kinda 6 and one half dozen of the other
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: muds are dying nowadays, he wasn't getting many new customers
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: that and there were a ton of cracked versions of zmud around, so cmud was released so it was not as easy and to help him live
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Yeah, I do wonder when muds are going to be completely barren. One of the muds I expected to be popular forever barely has 14-15 people on it now xD.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: But, I'm also lead to believe their spat with dikumud devs is what killed them. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: whats the command to see how many online atm ?
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: count
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: it is like most things that have had their day now it is just a niche
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Aard seems to be pretty steady atm
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Aard's numbers are still impressive.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: this is starting to get off topic, please take it to another channel :P
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Aard's great, but, except for a very few circumstances it feels like an MMO. 100s of people doing their own thing and ignoring everyone else.
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Right-o
T3/r3/2011-03-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: play bandit, then you can interact with people every 30mins to an hour :p
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: any mush lua scripters out there? I have a quick question
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: probably a fairly basic one too
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: if i can help
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: im pretty basic tho hehe
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: I basically just need to know how to send an alias in a trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: execute
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: execute(
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ok instead of send
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: execute("alias")
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: got it
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: the forums on there are great but hard to find answers sometimes
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: the forums on there are great but hard to find answers sometimes
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ya
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: for the easy questions at least
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: another question, how do you send an alias in a macro
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: nevermind, im dumb
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: was overthinking it
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I hate having to call my project XXXng, anyone got a good other name for ng ??
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ng?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: next generation
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i have no idea what you're on about
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: tech project often use ng as a suffix, e.g. IPng that became IPv6
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's up to you what you call it
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I know, looking for inspiration
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can you make a witty acronym out of it?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ff4 release tomorrow :)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: freedom fighters 4, final fantasy 4, foo fighters 4, expletive deleted 4 ?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: expletive deleted your mom.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: zmud: how do I 0 pad a number? I expected %format("&2.0n", %d) to place up to 2 0s in front if required, but it's adding blank spaces
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I don't know about in zmud, but in standard printf formatting, you'd want "%02d" to zero-pad. Maybe you want "&02n".
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: yeah it follows normal printf conventions, it's just adding spaces rather than 0s. which blows
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: I'll continue to play with it. thanks for the help
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Well "%2d" normally means to pad with (up to 2) spaces, whereas "%02d" means to instead pad with 0s.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is there a way to make mush keep the last input selected after entry?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands, auto-repeat command
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Could someone point me to a good lua scripting tutorial for Mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: i think there's one on youtube
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: ok, i opened up mushclient and i cant see enough of the main window to move or resize it.. what can i do?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ctrl-shift-p, highlight all plugins, and reinstall could do it.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: well, i can resize the window now, but i still cant see the top of it or move it
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reintall Aardwolf_Main_Layout. That is the plugin for the main window.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: did that, doesnt move it or anything
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Does string.gsub() in MUSHClient use some sort of regexp?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lua doesn't use regex, it has its own pattern matching system
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: browsed through the files, aard_layout.xml had a little command called aardreset i could use :)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try it
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Forgot about that command.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Is anyone aware of a command in Mush to break an alias or script in progress. Like crtl-c in bash, or whatnot.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: That was a question, and deserved a ?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Check the MUSHclient forums.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm I've never seen one...doesn't mean that it don't exist...Turie is right lots of good people there :)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I have been, thanks for the tip?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does not exist
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: can I upgrade mushclient to 4.73 without losing my mapper data?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: check out the updating page on the aardwolf site
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since when is there a 4.73?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: anyone up for some math?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i am... if you will teach me rpn
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: i like math!!!
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers intently at A Nimwit Parzifal.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: m = (y2-y1)/(x2-x1) or y2 - y1 = m(x2-x1)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: for a function from q into n, set f(x)=(3^a)(5^b). show that f is injective.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher lives in fear.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lol, lasher ^_^
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is Discrete Mathematics!
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lasher loves math in all its forms!
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: where x= a/b b not equal to 0
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Thargar: Is a and b integers?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Are*
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: doesn't entirely matter
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: it's injective either way
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: but makes it easier with integers
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: x is rational in reduced form a/b
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: basically you just need to show that a/b = c/d implies that a=c and b=d
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I'm really glad I got through my math, then I went to sleep and lost it all
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: because if for every x, a/b is unique then you have a unique number 3^a and 5^b multiplied together (ergo a prime facotrization of 3's and 5's where 5 never divides 3 and 3 never divides 5.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i know it is one-to-one , i need to prove it :)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: i just gave you the how ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: i assume it's for class I don't want to give youa step by step, but the basics of what you need to show to get there.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: yes its for class, due tomorrow :)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: personally i'd ignore x
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: and worry about f(a/b)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks i'll work on it
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: ....
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: so now that i'm looking at it, it's not injective
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: f(6) where a=12 b=2 or a=6, b=1
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: and 3^12*5^2 != 3^6*5
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: or so that's how the problem looks from my end.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: its just part of the problem. f(x) = (3^a)(5^b) if x > 0, f(x)=2(3^a)(5^b) if x < 0 and f(x)=0 if x = 0
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: then what was that x = a/b?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: x is a rational number expressed in reduced form as a/b, b not equeal 0, no common factores
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: ok reduced form, then yes it is injective.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: f of x is ?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: good luck w that I hated those ones
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: what's that for again, to find slope and all that shtuff?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i'm not loving it :)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: u just start a pre-calc?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: intro to proofs class
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: in my precalc we did f(x) equations but it always had to do with slope and such, and needed a good calculator
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I HATE those equations
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: there was some other stupid equations I dont remember...
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: dont take vicodin in mass amounts if you plan on getting a good grade ,,,, oops
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: damacius what about benzodiazepene instead?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: even worse.... as I snort a 1mili line lol
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you're taking mass amounts of vicodin, you're a long way past caring about good grades
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar how much is a mass amount, i never really found vicodin to help much
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: good point, but im working on it
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its about as weak as hydrocodon =(
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: like rush limbaugh
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: modi, oh thats right, i took you off ignore
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea but get the strong vicodins, or perki's
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: dunno how much is considered a mass amount, but using the term generally means "a lot"
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and about ...20 a day of the 1000's...
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ya I'd take about 20 of the strong ones... equiv to 40 or the weak ones most ppl see...
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: per day
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thank god I made it out of Vegas alive... lol
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: why not inject heroine?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so about 2 or 3 per hour?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: im scared of needles
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not me
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and I didnt like the taste of black tar
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea about 3 or 5 to start the day
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: oh yea, thats after your script runs out
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: personally, i prefer being afraid of ultra-large bodies of stellar gas igniting and beaming me with their rays in an anti-vampire way
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and 3-4 every hour or so
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: im glad im not dependant on opiates right now...
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I recommend tanning lotion, VD. Don't do the booths, as those can put out up to 15 times the sunlight as a real sun.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude cringes in terror!
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: goes back to lining up his xanax
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how hard would it be to find out if a series of emails were all sent from the same place?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: where's a tech when you need one...
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you mean definitively, or just looking up the header info that can be spoofed?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i suppose, the header info first
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some of the header info is easier to spoof than others
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: basically, i got a series of odd emails from a guy in north carolina, who said she was sending them from 2 different cities in russia, and i was wondering if that was maybe reflected by a change in the headers, between at least 2 of those cities
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ie, if i sent 2 emails from a computer at a school, and a computer at a library... and didnt make any effort... their headers would be different yes?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so, if somebody in north carolina sent me an email from london, and an email from york, for example, then there would be a change in the headers, ?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: at least... maybe
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right. maybe! so... what's the easy way to peek at this?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your email client should have a way to view full headers
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that are normally hidden from view
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: (OK). for example, if i am using a webmail service such as yahoo?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i will try to find an option in the options menu.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: general, signature,spam,filters,accounts,pop&forwarding,vacation response, contacts, calendar, notepad, and account information don't seem to have any option for headers
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in yahoo, open the message, click the actions dropdown menu and click view full header
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: took about 3 seconds to google that btw, if you make an effort ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: actions... dropdown ... looking
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i do not ... have an actions drop down menu
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i can right click for a view page source?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it works fine for me...
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn, let me try using the beta mail instead of classic
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's right at the top, there's delete, reply, forward, spam, move and actions
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: myrkul its trying to load the new all new yahoo mail beta , maybe that will give me the buttons you use
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah cool. yes i have an action button now. and an outlook like preview pane
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah cool it displays
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: thank you myrkul
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shrug, all i did was google it :P
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it is greek to me though ^_^ mayhaps i need to learn more about mtp, mta, and spf's
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: So, I'm having this strange issue with Zmud where after a few minutes of normal mudding activity, the window just sort of stops updating.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: But my commands are still going through to Aard...just not updating on my screen. Any idea?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: stop using #WAIT. #WAIT in zmud is moreorless an all-app pause feature.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: Hmm, I've only got one alias/trigger/etc that uses #wait, and it's one that I don't use regularly at all.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}System of Accora Tech: I'll disable it and see if it keeps happening, though.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: in cmud how would i have the build in divid/multiply functions give decimal approximations instead of whole number rounding?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stokes Tech: multiple by 10, do your math, divide by 10 for the whole number, and take the remainder for the decimal
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Parzifal Tech: gotta be a less round about way
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: note
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffled Salvanas Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there any way to for aptitude to use an updated version? IE, firefox 4 instead of 3.6.4?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: for=force
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is a PPA for firefox 4
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: have it offhand?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what do you mean by offhand? sorry english is not my primary language
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Do you happen to have it that you can c/p it? I don't have browser capabilities atm, SSH'd into my computer.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Much appreciated
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sudo apt-get update
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sudo apt-get install firefox-4.0
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but you can't use it in ssh... :D
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I know
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: But i can install it so i can use it when i get home and don't forget :P
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: java
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: what about it? :p
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats my primary language....
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i asked him what language was his primary... (he said not english)
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX falls down laughing.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok, last call for people that know how to tell where an e-mail came from before i send my address and contact information to a random stranger that may be a scammer from boone north carolina.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: How do i disable this --> RSA host key for 10.0.0.2 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I can SSH in if i do sudo ssh colby@10.0.0.2, but not if i just do ssh colby@10.0.02
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 10.0.0.2*
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just remove the offending key in .ssh/known_hosts
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you have resinstalled the OS, I assume?
T3/r3/2011-03-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: reinstalled
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have 3 different keys in there, not sure which to remove
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: remove all
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Will that stop me if i try and ssh in from my other computers then?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ssh will tell you the line for the key
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: theyll be repopulated when you reconnect
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ssh in the error message
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, /dev/null > know_hosts worked
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: double
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Torunkes waves his hands about in grand gestures as he casts, "SUMMON DOUBLE!"
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to find out if my phone is a smart phone, or just an above average intelligence phone?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try talking to it
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: redryn i did... i dont think it speaks my language
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then it's dumb by definition
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude mumbles something about a vegemite sandwich.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i guess i'll never know
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: will using a redirect destroy a session variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: such that $_SESSION['name']="test"
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: header("location:member_account.php")
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so if i have a print $_SESSION['id'] in member_account.php it should print "test" right?... what could be the reasons it won't print at all?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: hmm... does it print without the redirect?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: do you have session_start at the member page?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh do i have to always invoke session start at every page?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh i see thanks gramdel
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or move it to the tech channel
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: as soon as i log in with my other character i get disconnected.Why does this happen?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: ... help multiplay
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: cant play two chars at same time... against rules to begin with
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: well... same ip technicaly
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: hahaha
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Could someone with experience in LUA and/or MUSH scripts have a look at this: http://pastebin.com/C44W8DDq Assume cptargets is successfully capturing a table of mobnames in lowercase.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm not getting any recoloring of scans...
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: i am not doing anything against the rules that i know of.It is impossible for me to have multiple characters on at the same time
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: how do i log off my other player
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Megamark's weird actions.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: quit
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with the quit command
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: quit megamark, reconnect as him, quit him, then log back in as megamark.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: i dont understand how my other character is online i am a mxit user.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: quit megamark, reconnect as him, quit him, then log back in as megamark.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: quitting is different from disconnecting
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dionaea Tech: if you don't actually "quit", the mud assumes you lost your link.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what they said
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: how do i quit if i get disconnected each time
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You type 'quit'
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elvendar Tech: type 'quit'
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: it did not work
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: did you type quit?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: yes.Then i logged on as eldunari but before i had time to type quit i got disconnected
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does someone else have your password?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: i have not told anyone
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: corrupted save mayhaps?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ask an imm or a friend to try loggin
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: ill try that
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: if a friend logs his character in it is character sharing and nuke possibly
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eh...
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: whats Nuke
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: heh well thats true
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: u get deleted
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: meh just ask imm i guess >_>
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: ask an imm
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: so then how do i solve my problem
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: how do i ask an imm
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: did you leave megamark quit (with the quit command) while you were trying to reconnect your other guy?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: who imm, send madcatz a tell
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: madcatz is on... but hes afk... just drop him a tell i guess
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: magic if he went dc his finger would kept his old loged on... i looked and it was reset
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Megamark Tech: so the only solution is speaking to an imm?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: possibly
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or figure out what you're doing wrong yourself
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: prolly somethin simple
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Flat looks like he's around
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: 3. get drunk and watch porn
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheezFries is agreeing with that CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah flat is definetly around ask him lol
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Any tech-heads on here know anything about HDMI/DVI stuff for PC's? Got a few questions.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ask your questions
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a little...
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: I know what the port looks like!
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you don't get an answer within an hour of asking, ask your questions in a note to the tech board
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: So. I got an Nvidia GTX460 SE video card, which, as far as I've been able to figure out, IS HD capable. My monitor has a 1600 x 900 resolution and is HD Ready, and I've got a DVI-D (dual port) cable. From what I understand this means I'm good up to 720p.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: What I'm wondering then is why do 1080p videos on Youtube seem to still give me a quality boost over 720p.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: And secondly, is there a way to improve the quality outside of specifically 720p+ programs. The quality of my picture seems the same as when it was hooked up via. VGA.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: get a 1080p monitor, that video card kicks but i used to have one
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Well, the monitor came with the PC, and after buying a new PSU to power the new GPU, and the DVI cable, I don't have the money to get a 1080p monitor right now. So I wanna make sure I'm using this one to its full extent.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: make sure you plug the dvi into the middle
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: cause that is the physx port
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Yeah?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: o ya
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Good to know.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you notice a quality difference because you're good up to higher than 720p.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Ok, cool. But I'm assuming it's not full 1080p?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though if you see the same image from DVI as you do with VGA then you're probably doing something wrong with either the cabling or your eyes
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Probably my eyes, hard to mess up cabling.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very few LCDs give good pictures these days from a VGA cable because of the extra AtoD step involved
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: try the physx port and then go into nvidia control panel
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: make sure its on
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: i think menu is right click option on desktop
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: while everyone is on the topic of vid cards, anyone get HDMI to work on hackintosh?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saint Cuthbert Tech: Alright, awesome. I'll definitely give that a shot.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: or in control panel
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: on mac?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: on hackintosh so kinda
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: ok guess its something i dono about O_O
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: its a PC with OSx installed on it
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: mac os on a pc?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: wow
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: y on earth would you do such a thing
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: guess im going to have to get a dual DVI card - but I dont want to have to pull it all out of the oil unless I know it will work
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: because I like OSx, and need it for Final Cut Pro
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: ah
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: same reason is submurged in oil - so i can overclock the hell out of it lol
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah as much as i hate macs... most editing software is way metter on macs >_<
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: fishtank full of oil does make cooling problems go away
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: you submurged your comp in oil?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheezFries is agreeing with that CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: too bad changing hardware means a rather disgusting chore
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: best cooling around
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: well one of the best
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: OMG strange, and that dont fry it?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: isnt oil conductive?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: no... oil sint conductive
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: wow
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: learn somethin new every day
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Mineral oil, not petroleum oil.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hence why it cools it all down so nicely
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: ah
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: not motor oil
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Same stuff used to cool large transformers.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: awsome interesting stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Messier than Flourinert, but a lot cheaper.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: another good way to cool ur pc is just hang ur mobo in air duct lol
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone know a source for a good quest/cp mob scan highlighter?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Client?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: if its for mush then id just go look at forums i would imagine they have that
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: https://picasaweb.google.com/112305333161448183494/Mar222011#5587007275029776050
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: there is the PC if you wanted to see it J
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: hackintosh? i already found some build urself tutorial for it lol
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: -_-
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bah miss
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Sorry, it's for MUSH Cheezburger.. but I could modify any.. I just can't seem to get mine to work.... I suspect I'm having a problem comparing a string to table values
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any clever way to remove leading and trailing spaces from a string in LUA?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: probably some kind of trim function
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: heh.. yeah... trim() Thanks. -)
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: =) too
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone know where i can find the tprint.lua plugin its required for another plugin but cant find it
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/files/smaug/lua/tprint.lua
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: what plugin btw? can't see a good reason to include it only for debugin maybe.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: blainer's inv miniwindo
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: How might I reference a wildcard in a MUSHClient trigger being sent to "script?" %1 doesn't seem to work
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mommy Takihisis Tech: Anyone using CMud that might be able to advise as to why it won't import my zmud settings?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What version of zmud?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mommy Takihisis Tech: 7.21
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: any one here have time to help me figure out this problem with a script seems im the onlyone having a problem with it dont know why details are at http://pastebin.com/L8zAxg3H
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I started looking at it, and it looks like it's if low blow, then blah blah...that's just funny :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ha
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: is there a mushclient script/alias etc command to be able to enable/disable a certain plugin without having to go into the plugin list all the time?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnablePlugin ("1234567890", true) to enable plugin ID 1234567890...EnablePlugin ("1234567890", false) to disable it
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: THANKS! :)
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: what do you guys think about using olive oil to lubricate a cpu fan bearing?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: no idea
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arch-Mage Raistlin bonks Drakoth on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: uh ...
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Better than no lube, but not quite as lubricative as other things
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina gives FootLong Cheezburger a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if the fan is whining the bearings are likely shot and replacing the fan is the wisest option. Do you want to have it fail while you are not there?
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I've heard of people using sexual lube for it, and it actually worked 'ok' but it wasn't excellent
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: The big problem with using olive oil would be it gathering dust.
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, that too
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: i was going to say, its either that or passion cherry durex... :P
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: then it'll turn into a glue-like substance
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: worst prob with sex lube, water based which is corrosive
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: give it a shot of axle grease heheh jk
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: I guess ill just get to the store tomorrow and pick up the right stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Probably a better optio
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'd personally just say replace the whole fan
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: just don't get the heating lube
T3/r3/2011-03-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lol, yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: i have no willpower :(, but the olive oil is going well so far! :)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: spinach and brutus?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: maybe i came back at a bad time?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: im thinking the same..
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: can anyone give me some tips on setting triggers, i have tried (mushclient) but i never send anything
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: i am using exact copies of the text strings but still my triggers dont activate
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: are you copying the whole line of text?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: for example im copying "You are very hungry
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: and trying to send "gulp gob"
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: but nothing happens
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: you need to also copy the ## and any full stops etc....failing that, convert your trigger to a regular expression and remove the ^ and $
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: worked for me when I did tech -h lol
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyony know how much data mudding from your phone eats up? :P
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: it worked!!!
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: no probs
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: now is there a way to do it to enter your password?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is there a way to send @'s for color coding in a script that you're expanding variables in? is there a way to call variables within a Send() without the @?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: i have no idea hmmm...
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: im working on a trigger that takes can't runto messages and runs to the suggested continent then repeats the coordinates and location hint, as well as getting current coords. it all works except i just wanted to color the outputs but the script reads the @'s as variable declarations..
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: im working on one that sends your password when prompted on connection.. so far im completely unsucessful
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: checked my logs for data amount: about 200 kB/hour
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: Puredeath, I used a line prior to the login prompt to get that to work....
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: your mileage may vary
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: awesome it worked, shapechanger do you have it where it types in your user name?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: i used the one trigger to type my name and the immediately type my password...if that helps
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: or can you tell me how insert a speedwalk delay?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: Vagus the help file states apparently if you send a double (ie @) when variables are expanded, it will send a single @w
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ty sir
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: heh...just read what i typed...i have to put a triple @ to get @@w
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}PureDeath Tech: shapechanger: thanks for all your help i have it all working now
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: good to hear...i had nightmares trying to sort out triggers in mushclient when I first tried to get them working.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: but it took me even longer to realise that i could change the colors in mushclient so i could read text!
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: oh man it's perfect thanks buddy :)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mush, i want @x - @y = @total. what's the easiest way to do this
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the @x and @y are basically strings captured from a trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: but they're #'s and i want to do matht with them heh
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: what's the proper syntax for math with varibles
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: nvm
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone wanna take a crack at this one Function/Sub: gmcpval called by Plugin GMCP_handler Reason: Executing plugin GMCP_handler sub gmcpval \MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:18: nil parent passed to get_gmcp stack traceback: [C]: in function 'assert' C:\MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:18: in function 'get_gmcp' C:\MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:76: in function
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you don't have the relevant gmcp values updated
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: are all biologists retards, or is it just the ones I have to work with/
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Just those you work with :)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: shake, all of em :P
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I think Chuft is more likely right
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: never met a bright one
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or one that could follow simple instructions that a 7yr old could manage
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Iron Duck Chuft Tech: if they were bright they'd do a real science like physics ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so if you work with biologists, then you also are a biologist .. or the janitor
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: 'web software developer'
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: in addition to the not being able to follow simple instructions, completely changed the spec at the 11th hour and complain that it needs to be done by the end of the month
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm trying to find a reason not to tear off their head and defecate down the stump of their neck
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: biologist repartee: are all (insert less-educated occupation here) retards, or only those that say they work with biologists
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: far far more study and learning to become a (genuine) biologist than a web software developer (not sure about the welfare recipient that skims a book on biology and says "i am a master biologist")
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's totally irrelevent
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: unless you are suggesting that this extra study somehow renders them incapable of taking a crap
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: metamucil (psyllium husks) works wonders for taking a crap
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: after the retired Captain James T Kirk advertised on tv that eating cereal with fibre lowers cholesteral by up to 10%, he became an outspoken dad on some sitcom "Crap! my day said" (sic)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: anyone here care to help me i want to have a seprate aard db for ion the test port do i just rename the db file or wha?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss THWAPS Arch-Mage Raistlin for being a moron.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: cause changes i am making on the test port is effecitng main port db
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: specify client when you're asking that sort of question
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: oh sry mush
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: everytime I use the pquaff plugin on MUSH, the whole thing crashes...
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's because potions are evil
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: it is one possibility, amoung a range of possibilities -- anyone else having the same issue?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: suggest a note on tech board, or asking fiendish or bast, since there are no mush techs on atm
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just create a new world for the test port
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Note to Swalec. I think he wrote it.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know why regex tester would match a pattern, but java wouldn't?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: is there any reason why the aardwolf mushclient wouldn't be ok for other muds?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lots of them
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gmcp would work i expect
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: wouldn't*
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: both the gmcp and tags used are aardwolf specific
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and lots of triggers etc are designed for aard's output
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the gmcp mapper in particular is heavily customized around the way aardwolf works
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: so if - cowering before expected barrage - i wanted to - albeit just in the interests of more fully appreciating the wonder that is aardwolf - look at another mud - what would you recommend for the client?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient. just not aardwolf's package.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: can anyone suggest a batch image resizer that isn't shit?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a command line one would be fine, but just one that doesn't die half way through a batch
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: imagemagic?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: convert
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: try photoscape...could work
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: imagemagick i mean, i think convert is part of that package :)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: will try that, tried imagebatch and fotoresizer, both die part way into the batch
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: by die, i mean crash irrecoverably
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: imagemagik
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: will give it a go (as the actress said to the bishop)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: thanks for the input
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: have you guys used this before?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i have no idea what this is doing whatsoever
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no output telling me what's going on, nothing in the specified output directory, just sitting there flipping from 0 to 46% cpu usage
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: okay what's the sata connector called where the key is like 3 pins over instead of all the way over?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it's used for SSD drives
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: annnd go!
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no idea
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: ... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sata+connector+where+pins+are+three+over+instead+of+all+the+way
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, another suggestion for batch image resizer that isn't poo and isn't ImageMagick?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: perhaps photoscape?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: try feh
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: what is the difference between capped and uncapped adsl?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: capped is limited at a cerain metric
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: certain
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: photoscape appears not to help
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: sorry..hmm..gimp?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i would check, but photoscape has currently got the pc locked up
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: photoscape just now started to work, we'll see if it can make it through the batch without crashing
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what are the names of the plug-ins that pop up after you level and pup? I need to reset them because they're not working
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: how are we suppose to know what plugins you have installed.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: the standand Bast plugins for mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it says like Gained a pup: X trains X mobs killed (X xp/mob)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: all of my numbers are wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: xbroadcast_level maybe?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: miniwin_stats?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do I reset it?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: also the average on my quset points is wrong, too
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: hit ctrl+shift+p, select the plugin, click reinstall
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you also use my spellup script?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I do not, bast
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload all the broadcast plugins, StatMonitor, and StatDB
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, will do
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then after that, do "whois", and the reload miniwin_stats
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you always use mushclient to mud?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I do
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I got a run-time error
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: copy/paste it to pastebin.com and tell me the url
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: on xBroadcast_Level
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: http://pastebin.com/MPmutbw2
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload the broadcast_level plugin one more time, I think that is because broadcast_state was reloaded
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, it's all been reinstalled. I'll let you know next level if it works
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: nah, didn't work. It always says 86 mobs killed (60.38xp/mob)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it gets the trains and bonuses right, though
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have autoloot on?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what version are you running?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: anyone know where to find a script to report after quest?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripts are different for every client
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: ommmmmmm... my crystal ball is vague, can't find out what client you're using
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: Zmud :)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: grandel, chrestomancy is the art of divination that uses crystal balls
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: I know they are out there, used to have one
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: Bast has one for mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for zmud scripts, check out crimson's website, as well as finger danj, atreidess and fiendish
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: thanks abel
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: anyone know the shell command to make something fullscreen and i dont mean alt + delete
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: i meant alt+ enter
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: how can I get rauction and other stuff from scrolling on the main screen and scroll it on the com. log like gossip is?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a question I'm interested in hearing the answer to as well
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: here is a possible answer
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: edit your plugin "Aardwolf_Chat_Capture_Miniwindow"
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there is a trigger called name="remort_auction"
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and enabled = "n"
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: try changing that to a "y" and reloading the plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i just tried it.. in time i'll see if it works
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you may also need to create a varaible called remort_auction_on and set the value to 1
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sorry, have you tried right clicking the top of the chat window and looking at the "Capture Other Info" section?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol...
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrazySk8er DaRicoDude Tech: commenting in cmd?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: anyone here use the VICE C64 emulator on linux?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, only use the real thing
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: I'm having a heck of a time trying to get joystick emulation to work, not sure if it's maybe the window manager I'm using or what
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: hahaha, awesome
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in cmud what pattern variable is used other than * to catch more than one word?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: (.*)?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Or (%w|%d|%s) or (%S|%s) or (%W|%w) lol
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bit of an odd question
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the context?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Trying to capture cp info
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: but if i just do (*), it'll lump the area/room in with the mob name
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: and don't want them listed the same
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Oh, you need a mroe strict regex then
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Can you c/p the cp info message for me? I'll get you a regex
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ~ is the cmud escape sequence, right?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: You still have to kill * a posse member (Gold Rush)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: yes,
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: about the tilde
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You still have to kill ~* (.+) ~((.*)~)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: %1 will be mob, and %2 will be area name
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Problems arise when the mobs (or room) have parens in them./
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, nods.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: How can you round a variable value in Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: math.floor(var), math.ceil(var)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Floor will drop everything after the decimal, ciel will round up regardless of it.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: neither of those are really a "round" however
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Add .5
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: It's close enough, I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: if ((var - math.floor(var)) > .5) then (math.veil(var)) else (math.floor(var)) end
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: veil=ceil*
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm rather fond of Maskull's answer
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: math.floor(var+.5)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, is the correct syntax to use it in: Math.floor(GetVariable ("xyz")+.5)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: lowercase math
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know if there is such a thing as a split keyboard (i.e completely detatched left and right sides)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hacksaw :P
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i prefer a skill saw myself
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yes one existed at one point...try google :)
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yes, i know, i just can't find it on sale anywhere
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How much you willing to pay: http://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Freestyle-Solo-Ergonomic-Keyboard/dp/B0016A0RLA
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: spot the deliberate design flaw
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The wire?
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not suitable, but close
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sides must be splittable to an extent taht they can be used on opposite sides of the body
T3/r3/2011-03-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can't get some font settings to stick in cmud. Every time I start the client up, it resets them to something other than what I set in preferences. What's wrong?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: anybody know what a png image is?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just an image file ext
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: a common one at that
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: how would one use it?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you mean by what it is...it's an image file...like bmp, jpg, gif
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: no diff than jpg or gif, I mean I dont know the exact specifications of it but yeah
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Open the image using any image viewer ecer.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open it up in your browser
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: kk, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ever*
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Most image viewers should be able to open it.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of websites use png...there was a huge push for it when the compuserve gif copyright thing was going on
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: .png is good, nice a portable
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do i add opening doors to mappers?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depends on the mapper, I'm sure
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the mapper included in your custom aardwolf client
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: currently i would change it in the db itself
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: but if it can be done with cexit or something, it would be great
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it probably can't be done reliably without adding something to the database
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i see. thanks seems like i have to add my custom command then :D
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure to not make your database incompatible with future updates to the mapper
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that would be sad
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually, here's what you can do without changing the mapper
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not as clean, but it would probably work
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im listening :D
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a custom exit of open w ; w?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's not clear to me that the custom exit would necessarily be used preferentially to another exit of the same distance
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: abelinc: something like that
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I suppose I could add a check for that if I haven't already
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I was actually thinking of detecting when you bump into a door and then trigger 'mapper resume'. but that would actually require that speedwalks terminate after 1 failure instead of 3 (hey, petition for that plz)
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: only the exit from a room to another room
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: somewhat like an exit override
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can probably make the mapper preferentially check for custom exits to rooms that are also exits
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for all I know it already just works
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try it
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: before you ask me to make changes
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is there any way to make the new mushclient skip a line after a prompt appears?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: put a line break after your prompt
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure your prompt ends in %c
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ah, ok, thank you :)
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i just upgraded to the latest mushclient and now there is a box to the side that looks like it should be the mapper box, but it's almost off of the screen and I cant access it
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: any idea how to move it?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the same way you would move it before?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i never moved it, it showed up when i installed mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it moves the same way any of the miniwindows move. dragging the part across the top where the mouse cursor changes to a hand
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: it's showing about 1/2 inch of screen and there is a button on the top left hand that toggles between black screen and white typing
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: thanks, got it
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: FF4 nearing 15 million downloads
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: whats ff4 she asks cautiously
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Final Fantasy IV?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia slaps herself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Firefox 4
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i agree
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think it's easier to code with partial name than without
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: what the flying heck is wrong with laptop screens these days?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i physically can't buy one and have it here within 30 days, and despite people claiming they're brand new, they are citing warranties that will tend to run out before it even arrives
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: wtf
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: typically it is cheaper to get a new laptop than to replace the screen on one
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not on a $1800 laptop it isn't
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if it is worth $1800 it should be under warrenty
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a. not my laptop, b. 18 months old, so out of warranty
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if it is 18 months old it isn't worth even half that :P
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if you were to replace the laptop, it would cost $1800, and the screens are less than $200, I just can't -get- one
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how crap does a screen have to be when it ships with only a 4 month warranty?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I would say pretty crappy. Was warranty on computer itself longer though?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: originally a year
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: this kind of crap is why i'd never buy a laptop
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well the warranty being differnt on the screen should have at least raised some red flags?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no, the warranty on -replacement- screens is different
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: what brand of laptop, so that I can avoid?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: is it still within the year total?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all of them
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: hell no, mendaloth, 18-24 monthsish
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i just don't understand why suddenly 90 day warranties are standard on parts
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ok, emailed a couple of places, it's about the best I can do right now
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'm so glad I don't own one of the hateful pieces of crap
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: with RIM's playbook out in mid apr anyone reckon it be as good as ipad 2g?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: RIM aka blackberry maker
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reinzeld Tech: I have been unable to get a spellup plugin to work without causing me grief. I just downloaded the lastest version of MUSHclient again from aardwolf.com to start fresh, can someone tell me how to go about downloading and installing a spellup plugin that won't give me constant errors?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reinzeld: Have you downloaded Bast's plugins?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: finger bast / go to his site/ dl his plugins/ unzip/ copy to plugin folder
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reinzeld Tech: I believe that is what I tried the last time. It worked okay when I played that day, but when I tried to login again, it gave me some spellup_header errors and I couldn't do anything...it just spammed that error constantly.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: you had 2 worlds open at the same time didnt you
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: i usually get that when i load the test port and main
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reinzeld Tech: Dunno, I doubt it. I only ever play the one.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reinzeld Tech: Do I want to download bastmush-v6.1-rev1276.zip?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: does anyone know how to create a variable in a class folder for cmud?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: well you can always just make it then drag and drop into the class folder
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: click on the class, click new, click variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: or did you mean from in a script?
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you have two basic options
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: from a script
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: class/varname = blah
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: you can create a new class and call it variables
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: doh ok i'm dumb thanks for that
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: first is the old way via #VARIABLE. #Var varname current-value default-value {class}
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: then click on it then click new variable and it will create the variable in that class
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's manually, not from within a script akuri :P
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: thanks guys, got it :)
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul smiles happily.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the second is via explicit pathing. All the same rules for variable names and suchlike apply, but you just add the list of classes you travel through to get to the variable. for example, //aardskies/time/aardtime.ampm = "pm"
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: thanks dokkar :)
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you use the newer explicit-pathing scheme, there may or may not be a few situations where you cannot use the varname.key syntax.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: hmm okie
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you ever run into such a situation, you can instead use the function to get the same info
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, the %db() function that is.
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I know it looks atrocious, but I prefer the explicit-pathing as it prevents CMud from ever making duplicate variables in random places (at least until something goes horribly, horribly wrong).
T3/r3/2011-03-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zorine Tech: ya i hate having random copies of the same var all over and screwing up my scripts
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i love how to non-mud players, i apparently always look like i'm hacking
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the constant scroll of text scares most people away within a few seconds lol
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: what's the "completed": 98 part in gmcp comm.quest complete
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: the java telnet client on aard's site is great for overcoming firewall issues, but it's ssoooo buggy *groan*
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: Here in Aus I know of a couple of websites that do price comparisons on pc hardware (i.e., they search all the online shops, and compile a list with prices and links), do any of you know of an american equivilent? With the Aussie dollar so strong, it makes a lot of sense to import pc hardware from the states.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: That new Nvidia gtx 590 is 700ish over there, and over 1300 over here.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: you'll probably end up spending more in shipping, though
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: More than $600?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: the cheapest price over here for that card is 1200. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: from some dodgy looking online shop I have never heard of before. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Anyone highly recommend a particular brand of printer? HP, Canon, Lexmark etc.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: brother laserjets are awesome
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: how so?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: mine for almost 8 years and it was a workhorse
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: just solid and inexpensive
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruthless Ross Tech: Nice, I'll check it out.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Urughak )
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: main thing to research is ink cost...ink is the real cost..not the printer
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i wouldn't buy ink unless i wanted to print photos
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: yep- thats why im voting for a $200 brother laserjet- the toner isnt expensive and it prints a ton more than ink cartrtidges for the money
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: I switched to ubuntu from debian and now i'm getting unidentified characters appearing on my screen, using tt++ with screen on urxvt. Wondering what could be causing it
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of them, always the same char, unrecognizable?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: they look like question marks in dimaonds
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: 'o?='
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: encoding issues
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: 'o?='
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: try $locale and see what it says
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: don't have a locale variable
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: $ <- bash prompt
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: it's set to en_GB.utf8
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. i'm using en_US.utf8
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so british English
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and tt++ works fine
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no he has en_US.utf US= american english
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (debian)
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You are slapped by VampireDude.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I meant gnid, vampiredude
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: he wasn't replying to me. chill out
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: yeah it's british english, might have been different before i guess
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: pat on the back to anyone who can find a UK supplier at a reasonable price for a Samsung LTN160HT03 panel with a 1yr warranty or better
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lmgtfy....
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: found out what the problem was from before, turned out to be a tt++ bug, now using the beta version :)
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: got to focused on the OS side forgot to check the tt++ forums
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SASF ElementPyros Tech: Anyone know of a good working quest reporter plugin for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: anyone familiar with the newtonsoft json dll?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Never heard of it.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it's a link library you can add to C# apps, perhaps other languages too not sure, that allows you to parse json strings
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: must not be any good if it didn't come with some sort of helpfile.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty normal
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: there are helpfiles for it, but my ISP won't let the site load up.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's probably not the ISP so much as your network admin.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Well i can tell you if I go to mc donalds and use their wifi i can load up any site i can't at home.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: so it has to be my isp for some unknown reason.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: unless you're in China or some other country where access to the internet can be randomly censored for little reason
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: i'm in the US
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: and wildblue sux so don't ever get it, lol.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Askar Tech: you on a wireless router?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: we have a wireless router yes, but even if i hook directly to the modem, same result
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I assumed you tried other computers (ie, not something specific to just yours)?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: both my wifes, and my pc, same result.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: did you check in your network config page for anything being blocked?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nah, not sure how to do that.
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: though what would that have anything to do with it, if i am not connected to the router
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what're some things i can do as root to lessen the amount of lag i get when viewing websites i visit often?
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: installing some sort of dns caching service might help a bit, putting the ip addresses of fave sites in hosts file
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: maybe toying with qos settings in router would prob be beneficial as well
T3/r3/2011-03-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: web cache
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone know how to get MUSH to stop recording logs ?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Anyone know how to get MUSH to stop saving all the logs ?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i don't know but there is a logging tab in File -> global preferences-> Logging
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: cool tks, ill look in to it.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: is it possible to use htaccess to redirect from a domain to its subdomain?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'd think given Google being a global business with such software as Google Maps and Google Earth, they'd be able to at least manage, when prompted, to correctly "only display pages from the UK"
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: remind me someone how you exclude something from a match in regex
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: if it's a character list - [^]
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: a word, not a char list
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: negative and positive lookahead/behind
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: abc(?!word) <- will match only if 'word' isn't after 'abc'
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that should do it, ta
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos loves lookarounds :)
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: now if only Zmud worked, i'd be getting somewhere
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there we go, finally
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: anyone know how to send a command to a zmud window without changing focus?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: dear zugg, please can you make your standard trigger and alias handling deal with spaces and semicolons, yours sincerely
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or i'd settle for being able to send two : commands in one, but you can't do that either
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: at some point perhaps someone could explain why :: works while #al {send:} {::%1} does not
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can anyone reccommend a good tv/tft swivelling arm wall mount
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can only find dross online
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: can anyone help with mudlet? I need to do an "if this AND this then" type statement. I can only to one condition
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: try andif?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okie
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: "andif" didnt get blue like if, then, elseif, else, do, so i'm guessing somethings wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nest the 'if' statements?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so try and if
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is there an & or && operator, or an AND command?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: added the space and they turned blue. cool.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: nodnod
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: 21 minutes until quest and I can test the changes. LOL
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is it possible, in cmud, to have a trigger echo a line of text *above* the line that triggers it?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude stares dreamily at Starling.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not in the strictest sense of the phrase, but you could simply #GAGSPACE and #PRINT a replacement that has both lines.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps even #SUBSTITUTE would work
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shame statmon appears after prompt, not before.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you're using CMud, though, there's no need to use statmon
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: am trying to set up an alias/macro in Mush and need some expert advice - is it possible to type 'hunt dragon' and have the client interpret that command to execute multiple commands on the dragon variable: hunt 1.dragon, hunt 2.dragon, hunt 3.dragon etc?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to do the subsequent commands until you've gotten the results of the first...
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: otherwise, triggering on a successful you cannot hunt that target wouldn't be able to know which of those multiple numbers it's seeing the results for
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are already available auto-hunt-trick plugins available, though
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: aha - now that's something - bast's plugins?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i read the question as not an autohunt question, but maybe a cp mob finder?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: then again, I could be wrong. :p
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: nod cera
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cera, that's why I said auto-hunt-trick plugin, not auto-hunt plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not included with bast's, but listed on the comli site
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: comli?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc if i download the plugins from your website, is there an easy way to learn how they work?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help www
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paladinson Tech: got it - thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: nod abelinc
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampiredude, when in the file -> plugins, click "show info"
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc ok i 'll try that once my gui is well, better
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I wish one of two things were true... more people used mudlet OR mush worked on a mac. :(
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cera can't you use mushclient with fink on a mac?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush works on a Mac using wine/crossover/parallels/fusion/bootcamp
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats fink?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fink is a download/install tool
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I've tried various ways to get PC programs on my mac and I don't really like any of them. I MUCH prefer programs written for a mac. I get much better performance
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: how about buying a pc?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I'll look in to fink, never heard of it
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true, best performance for native stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: blech! why would I want to do THAT?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: be forewarned, it gets addictive
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well that's all you have right now, an overpriced pc running a mac os
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: <-- mac girl
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vampiredude, mush isn't a unix opensource program, so fink wouldn't really help
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: when it comes down to it, it's just a snobby brand name
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apple should have died at the end of the 90's
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shame that it didn't
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera sighs.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cera, mac girls are cute, especially if they have blueberry flavored macs
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while mushclient is opensource, it relies on microsoft libraries and as such won't compile on other OSes
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I don't mind them. It's just ironic the change they've gone through in the days since they were fighting against Big Brother Microsoft.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: flavored? or colored? :p
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cera. flavored.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ironic in that they're pretty much the same
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: flower power one was better :P
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is it true that hosting a game server for a game like counterstrike will make the machine that hosts it less secure from malicious internet types?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes and no...
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: loosely
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't run the CS service with privs, turn off all non-necessary services, firewall off all unnecessary ports
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and preferably run behind NAT, with specific NAT rules
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and just run it on a POS box
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: technically, the only box i have fits that description
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: if someone sends a pic on PS3 via a message how do you open the attachment?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: is there a way to block other peoples emails from coming in? I have AOL and this other person does not
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: blacklist them on your end
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: how do you do that?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on your service
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: or pending on your client create a rule to trash things from that sender
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, can do that as well
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: usually you'd blacklist them somewhere around the same place that you whitelist people
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I am a pc dummy, just know the basics. I don't know how to create rules.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: you just right click the message and should give an option to create a rule
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: any tech savvy here?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: any tech savvy here?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: I keep getting this error from the bast spellup plugin, anyone have any ideas on what I can do? Timer function "spell_display_timer" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: Anyone that uses cmud know how to remove channel tags for a capture window without losing the color coding?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: #sub (~{chan ch=(w+)~}) {}
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I think
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: I'll try it.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i recommend using gmcp for channel captures though ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian rapidly nods twice at The Reaper Myrkul, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Might have to do #tr {~{chan ch=(w+)~}} {#sub {%0} {}}
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ^-- agreed
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: You know the gmcp triger code off the top of your head for that?
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: pattern's comm.channel
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then do #window [1;32m(Friend)[0;37m: Mandorallen has entered Aardwolf.[0;37m
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: erm
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then do #window %gmcp.comm.channel.msg
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: stupid parsing :P
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: That worked perfect, you guys rock :)
T3/r3/2011-03-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: anyone know how to fix this issue in the bast spellup plugin? Timer function "spell_display_timer" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroarda Kyroda Tech: anyone know a free prog i can edit mp4s with? basic stuff, trim, add audio etc
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: audacity
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vincentfoo Tech: virtualdub for video
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroarda Kyroda Tech: nah
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroarda Kyroda Tech: virtual dub wont let me do mpegs
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroarda Kyroda Tech: anything thatd do mp4 ts m2ts formats would work
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cheezeburger audacity do videos now?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroarda Kyroda Tech: from my google search it just says audio
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nah, don't think so, i misread the question
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: convert it to avi first :p
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: avi isn't an encoding, it's a container
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vincentfoo Tech: yeah.. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: avi can be mp4
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vincentfoo Tech: convert into xvid or something compatible
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok, convert it to a standard encoding
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn blinks innocently.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: On MUSH, any way to stop F1 from opening help files, and use it as a macro ?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Can't.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: dskjlkjlfh
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: tired of hitting F7 for earthquake, making my arm sore
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you can
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> global prefs
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: pref, general, f1-f6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: general tab, check the box for f1,f6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Nice, thanks guys.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: F1.. so much better mhm..... tks again
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: can anyone help
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: what was the question
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: or was it that :P
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: how to make the chats only appear on communication log?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: chats echo off
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: might work ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: testing
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: nope did not
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: on MUSH ?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: yep i am on MUSH
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: hmm odd, did you type it exactly, chats echo off
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: they wrote that echoing chats in main window is disabled, but the chats still appear
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: very odd, past my realm of MUSH. Sry
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: well nm than
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: ask every little while, someone with more know how will come along im sure.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samuru Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: on zmud, is there a way allow copy and paste color?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: orly?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: how do u do that? when i c and p its always white
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: rly
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: there is a spot where you can define all the colors (like bright and regular) and you put them as the corresponding @s, then it will copy color codes, i havent used zmud four a few years, could not tell you exactly where its at though =\
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snewb Tech: ask turie, he seems to c/p colors alot
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: preferences -> colors -> color syntax
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Samura: Right click on the Communication Long and go through the menu options
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Macbeth: You need the Copy_Colour_Output plugin to copy and paste colors from the text by using ctrl+D.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is there a function that simply adds a given amount to an existing variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: how can i truncate a numeric variable to a set number of decimals?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: With format, depends on what client/language.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: look up string.format
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: well in trying to use that string.format function, i'm trying to set the floating point to 1 decimal, so the entry looks like string.format("%4.1f", @v) but all it does is set the variable to .1f
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea that strin.format doesn't seem to want to set a floating point using the syntax given in the helpfile on it..
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: it gives me a malformed number error
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What does it say if you hard code a number in there?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ive got a compute with no internet(G)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: you are connected on the intranet with the aard server?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You must have like zero lag?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: i use a phone(G)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: becareful what you say here. people here like to sterotype those who mud using phone
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: even if u just occasionally log on using phone for fun but mud on pc most of the other time
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: not me, just haven't seen a question I can answer from him.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: do you see images or words
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: With the (G)?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: (G) == grin, methinks
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: just saying some people here. some group of people who came together with a common interest
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah the (G) is a client side thing. It's just letters to me.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, to us (G) shows up as a G inside parenthesis
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so i passed Note(string.format("%4.1f", 34.123123)) through script and it only prints .1f
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: the function doesn't seem to actually do anything
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i'm going right out of the help file with the syntax and nothing
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea no matter how i call it, string.format doesn't seem to do what it says it's supposed to do
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: paste the whole line here
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: string.format("%4.1f", 12.3123123) SHOULD truncate 12.3123123 to 12.3
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: but it seems to get hung up on the %4
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: looks for a wildcard to put there and doesn't find one so it just outputs the .1f
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: turn off expand variables?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Works for me just now though in my immediate window
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: not on
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: did you see the new audi rs7?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: another pointless impractical aspirational model, no doubt
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps % is the wrong character to use?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that's what it says to use in the helpfile
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: im just trying to limit a variable to one decimal place it shouldn't be this complicated
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is that the whole line though? You sure your error isn't somewhere else? Are you noting it? Asisnging to a variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yes i note it to get an output
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how do i install a game?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You need to be more specific, install a game on what?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the help file says to only use %? In CMud, you get a choice between % and &.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: in an alias?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i have truncate aliased to Note(string.format(:%4.1f", 12.3123123) and it just prints .1f
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: uhm p.c?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What's the colon in there a typo?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: "%4.1f"
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: whats recovery for?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: recovery is for getting back your data when something goes wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm does it for me too, try two % :)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and p.c. stands for personal computer.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you have to do data recovery, your backup procedures were inadequate
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that did it thanks menda
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Maybe note does some sort of pre-run through looking for special characters with %, could post of mushclient forums if you are really curious.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: recovery is in the shape of a pink hardrive
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it looks like %# is what mush uses for pattern variables
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I don't use that except for when expanding variables didn't realize it did it other times.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: now how can I pass a variable to that function without Expand Variables turned on?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: nvm expand variables doesn't seem to affect the function. it just doesn't seem to want to process a variable
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: expand variables just allowes you do do @var
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Soo you don't need it when doing %1 for wildcard one, etc?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so I want to string.format("%%4.1f", @var) but when I send that it just returns the .1f again
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: add another %, it worked the last time.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Try another %??????
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: did. same result
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Don't expand variables then? just access the variable with it?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: this is the whole line: string.format("%%4.1f",inpercent)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: this is the whole line: string.format("%%4.1f",@winpercent)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: though I still say an alternative character is supplied for this sort of situation
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: look at the help file for string.format dokkar
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you got an external-to-mush link?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: basically, i get a percentage by dividing one variable from another, then multiply it by 100 to get a whole number so it reads as a percent, but I want to limit the decimals to 1 place
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: everything works except the truncation
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, I know how a format function works. Every last one of them seems to faithfully reproduce one designed from MS-DOS days or something, with practically NO variance.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you dry it without the variable?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: try*
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: it doesn't really do me any good without the variable
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can access the variable by just using the name of the variable can't you?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: does it have an alternative numbers-only format? ie, format(value,length)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: instead of specifying the format-string, you just put the variable in that spot and use the number of decimal places you want as the second argument.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: [string "Alias: "]:2: bad argument #1 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: switched the arguments around to string.format('winpercent',"%4.1f")
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: switched the arguments around to string.format('winpercent',"%4.1f")
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and go that last error
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: yea switching the arguments around doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you realize that wasn't what I said, right?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: instead of specifying the format-string, you just put the variable in that spot and use the number of decimal places you want as the second argument.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: that's what you said
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: right, that's not what you did for the second argument.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what I asked was if format had this type of alternative: format(123.45678,2)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: not from what it says in the helpfile
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: finally got it working thanks for your time guys
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: in the new mush, is it possible to make aliases that uses the gmcp mapper to get a shortest path? simple stuff like if i set up a portal at imperial nation, i map entire vidblain, and then i want to set up aliases that will bring me to places like ultima, using the mapper and not hardcoding the directions to every area from landing room in imperial nation
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Send the alias to 'execute'
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, there's already mapper functions to find a particular room
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so setting the alias to send to execute like cheez mentions will have the alias execute the mapper function rather than echoing it
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: ahh thanks! is there documentations on these where i can read up on how to do it, perhaps on even more advance stuff?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja type mapper help?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or iirc there's a "?" in the mapper window
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: yup, it shows the search commands and some basic stuff, but i'm clueless on how to put code into an alias
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not really putting code into the alias, you just want the alias to type those basic stuff from that
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i think i get what you mean, let me test them out
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could make an alias for "viddoom" which does "mapper goto 10, I wouldn't worry about efficiency
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's a common thing, then you'll want to create a view of the join, then you can just do a select * from viewname where objectid = foo
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not many at all, so two SQL statements ain't going to make a differenec?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, the only difference it'll make is that you'll have to look in 2 outputs
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: SELECT * FROM equipment INNER JOIN
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: your join is fine... but you can use a view just like abelinc said... to filter the information you want instead of getting all of the eq data and stat data from a specific object id
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well the most I'll be using it, is on the rare occasions I am printing all 120 or so pieces of equipment.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: is a view overkill for that?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: nope...its never an overkill
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So with a view would I be able to return just the name, level, etc for the equipment, and then one row for each stat/resist that only contains the stat info? You know of any good resources to learn what the heck a view is? I could only find this for SQlLite http://www.sqlite.org/lang_createview.html doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: views are more convenience than anything else, they cannot break rules of SQL. Think of it as excel sheet - join takes two sheets and pairs them into one, by some 'id' column. Which is impossible without duplicating the equipment lines
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: What you'd do in code is to read through each record, and if the equipment id field changes it's a new item of equipment, otherwise it's another stat/resist for the current equipment item
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan is agreeing with that Lytebane person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: or just do two queries
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Thanks all for the help, think I'm almost there :)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheez, you don't have a space after the : in the first set of resist/value pairs, and you didn't make the second set of resist/value pairs optional
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it's a command-based pattern, efficiency isn't quite as important, so I broke it down into individual components, with a trig for each...unanchored, so it'll match the left or the right sets, depending on what resists/vulns are on a particular MOB: /def -F -mregexp -t'bash : +(-?[0-9]+)' abe_inter_bash_trig = /set abe_inter_bash=%P1
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then a trig on '^----------------------------------------------------------------$' so that the second one turns it back off
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have that trig form the line to populate the db from the set of variables just created, and purge all the trigs/variables
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: how do you refresh spellup window in mush
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know can you have comcast high speed internet and satellite TV? Or do they have to rip out ALL of the cable to install satellite.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: the dish is connect's to your current coaxial wiring
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the satellite-technicians are lazy or nasty, they may attempt to canabalize the cabling used by the cable-tv/internet to prevent you using cable -- but that is not going to viewed kindly by those with cable-internet
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: they shouldnt have to rip anything out, but youll need two seperate wires and if your using unshielded cable you might get interference
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: satellite-internet sucks
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah Xyliz, that's why I would never do it unless I can keep my comcast internet.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: anyone seen a 13" sandy bridge laptop?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: available now? who makes it?
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: satellie-tv is not that great in winter when slushy-wet snow coats the satellite dish and the satellite-feed is lost until the satellite-dish is cleaned of snow (fetch 20ft ladder, climb up to roof, carefully approach dish, clean off snow, spray dish with oil/lubricant, climb back down, return ladder, etc)
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Looking to see if there's any public news about it before I go running my mouth.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well I am in an apt building woudl end up having to put it on my balcony.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Unless your dish isn't positioned on the roof
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm just angry at Comcast for switching to all digital.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: satellie-tv is not that great in heavy-rains weather when dark black clouds reduce and stop the satellite-feed
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It's TV. It's never that great anyway.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: .. right when watching a favorite tv-program
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm actually on the international space station so clouds aren't that big of an issue.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pirouette Tech: Okays, few, almost had to beat myself for mentioning it too quickly, and I'm slightly off. It's a 14 inch HP Elitebook that's shipping with Sandy Bridge. It should be available. HP Elitebook 8460 is a 14inch sandybridge pc :P
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an apartment balcony may be okay if the balcony is unobstructed in the direction of the satellite
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I'm facing the right direction.
T3/r3/2011-03-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: satellite music is digital and thus sucks unless you like tinny-noise with most of the fine detail missing -- cable may yet broadcast some programs in analog, unless they converted the analog versions into digital versions
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey abelinc.... does the sort of certificate described at www.comodo.com/Comodo-Fraud-Incident-2011-03-23.html , affect people like me that just look for a little lockbox icon when they log in?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: anyways to disable logs, for everytime you play ?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: on MUSH
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah nevermind, i think it's talking about domains ... my email should be ok X.X *clueless aura*
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: is there a way to add doorways too the cexits on the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phole Tech: is there a way to tell what version i'm using. R336 vs R226?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Help - About
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phole Tech: tried that before. just says 4.72
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolfpackagechanges.txt in the folder
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: On MUSH, is there a way to stop the logs from being put in a file ?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're normally not put into a file, you have to expressly tell it to log
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Interesting, I have a logs folder, and everytime I log on it puts all my logs in a file in the folder.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phole Tech: searched computer, nothing with that name. where would i find it?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> logging
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: then just unclick 3 the boxs, that say What to log ?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: tks abe
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phole Tech: was that to him, or me?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phole, it's in the mushclient folder
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not in there, then you're either not using the aardmush client, or you're using a very old version of it
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phole Tech: checking again. it has the grey wolf in circle watermark in the chat box.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phole Tech: Listr336?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phole Tech: is it run on like that because a lot of this text file doesn't seem spaced or formatted right?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: What does "Variable 'held' is not defined" mean ?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: you need to create a variable named held for it to be used in the alias/trigger that is giving the error
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Okay okay.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I wanted to make something similar to the dualled trigger thingy i have
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: for other stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: anyone feel like answering a few questions i have about triggers/timers?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe if you actually asked them
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: i understand the basics about triggers but is there a way i make a timer for my self cast buff spells that would give me a msg when they fell off?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: do you use a script for spelling up?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: no?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a spellup script and the spellup command under a macro
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what client?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: use mine
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could always create a macro with 'spellup 200 201 75 100'
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or that ^
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: restart to load it or is there a command?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there any way to fix the (very rare) stalls in the spellup script, bast? Mainly seems to happen if you sleep at the the same time as the script tries to cast a spell
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: how do i load the spell up script now that its installed?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scandalar Tech: If Mushclient, and you used File > Plugins > Install, then it should be loaded..
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: File menu, plugins, then select 'add' and look for miniwin_spellup
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: amazing exactly what i needed thanks a ton!
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: Anyone here good at Flash CS5?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i'm trying to put a group of similar aliases into a plugin xml file in an attempt to be more organised - if my alias created in mushclient matches a regular expression, and needs a variable expanded before sending to world, i should do regexp="y", and what's the toggle for allowing expanding of variables?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: expand_variables="y"
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's a plugin wizard that'll do all that for you, you know.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: oh nice, that'll help alot :)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: When does that happen exactly O.o
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: The future.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: near or far ?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Do you want to submit a patch?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia shakes her head.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I meant when the update is arriving :|
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: In the future.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia laughs out loud.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Like, say, after I write it and test it and then package it up and upload it.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: riding my junk like this only makes it take longer
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i thought you were abandoning that project fiendish :)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what would make you think that?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: thats always my response when people ask for updates on something ive worked on to be nice
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't like that approach.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: is there a script to click cast spells?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: In mushclient, can you make an alias that enables/disables a timer?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yes, read the help for EnableTimer
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: k thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shihan Tech: anyone use Blowtorch?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sometimes
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only when forced to connect from my phone
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shihan Tech: i am trying to figure out a way to change button sets by trigger on button push
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shihan Tech: any ideas
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't use that stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shihan Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: only thing i don't like about aard mush client: i still can't do my winkie face
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: is there a solution to this problem
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: semi colon equaling carriage return or whategver
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: double up your semicolons
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use ;;) to get ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: ahh, thanks :) ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error....how can i stop this?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: even an uninstall did not do it
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: reload bast's spellup plugin
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: type plugins reload bsst
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: wow thanks so much
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: Any Flash guru's on?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: CS5, to be precise.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You'll find better success on tech channel to just ask your question and see if you get a response.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: I'll take that advice. I have a couple of 10 second Flash Animations. They're Banner ads I'm doing for a class. In Flash, everything is perfect, but when I publish, the text does not show at all. I have Text layers that I have motion tweened, that fade in and out using the alpha channel. I'm not using some weird font, either.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: It's a windows font, Stencil something.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: flash banner ads are pure evil
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: The layers are all visible when I publish.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: Tell that to my lecturer. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: You can rest assured that they'd never appear on any website. :P
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: why do a class about them, then?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: have you tried it with other browsers?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: in fact whole flash is pretty much evil
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: Actually, no. I've just been playing the .swfs outright.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that is usually a problem related to flash plugins
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: Yeah, it doesn't show in IE or Chrome either.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}+Minion+ Nalixor Tech: I've made sure to embed the entirety of the font, too. It's driving me nuts.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: updated plugins? have you tried chromes --enable-internal-flash?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: For MUSHClient, if you level, can I look for a gmcp broadcast of just char.status.level?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: can someone help me figure out why my mushclient triggers won't work please?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sure what are you trying to trigger off of?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: falls to its knees blinded
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: and that just triggered my trigger
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mine too :)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What do you have in the match part right now?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: but not when in combat
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If that's the case, your triggers are badly written
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: thanks that's really helpful
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Won't argue, it was one of my first triggers Starling, never change it. Only changes the color though.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Moving on, what are you matching on Ginny :)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: what I said with an asterisk which I couldn't type here...
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: at the beginning
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: so '* falls to its knees blinded' Do you have any punctuations, do you have regex matching on?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: tried with and without a . and nope on the regex
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: what happens when you type 'echo silly mob falls to its knees blinded
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: nothin
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: it only seems to work in channels
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Copy and paste exactly what you have as match. The * should come across.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Maybe the better question is, what are you doing on the trigger? How do you know it isnt working?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I often find it helpful to add a text echo to triggers if I suspect they're not firing
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: '* falls to its knees blinded
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: but without hte ' at hte beginning
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: I try to play a sound, I added a sneeze social to make sure it wasn't just hte sound
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: and I can't spell the
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sounds can be tricky, are you sending to world or script? Try deleting everything in the trigger box and just putting a Note("It worked")
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FairyKitty Ginny Tech: world, and like I said it all works when said in a channel, just not in combat
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: is mudlet used by a lot of players here? if not, whats the most common/best/most popular client for linux?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use the aardwolf mushclient package in Ubuntu 10.10
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: U-Bun-tu
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: type clients to know which client has a huge user base
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: ahh, i used to use it under winxp, didnt know they had a linux versio
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you have to use it under wine
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: They don't, but you can use it under Wine.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: yeah, 10.10 is nice
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: ahh, wine, ok
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i personally would not use anything labeled dumb =)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i was thinking of loading fedora core on my other box don't know if i will pull the trigger or not
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: lol, i just noticed that too
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i am thinking of going back to the 10.04 LT version of ubuntu
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: lts version
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: there are some library stability issues with some packages in 10.10
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did Ubuntu degenerate
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: non gui linux os ftw gui kills linux
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: no, just some issues with some software, most folks have no issues
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i have had two issues where it was one program or the other but NOT both due to library issues
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: not a showstopper, just annoying
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the only problem I have is that I have to use Wine 1.0.1 instead of a later version, because later versions of Wine are not compatible with the intel graphics driver for new intel graphics
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least last I checked
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: yeah, thats the linux curse. I am running two kernel updates behind because of the stupid nvidia drivers incompatibility
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i can run the newest kernel, just no dual monitors lol and i cannot live without dual or triple monitors
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: has the whole mud been rewritten in lua or just extended with it?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just extended with it
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the internal mud code is not lua
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: ahh, thats cool, i would hate to rewrite aard in lua
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: would have to be a sadist lol
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: anyone know how to convince wine to run a program on the other monitor? lol, it just insists on running in fullscreen on one display, checked winehq and wine config program and no dice
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: how can I backup aliases in mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Copy your .mcl file.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: game->configure->aliases->save
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh, that's fancy.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zomfg Zoranth bonks himself and grimaces in pain.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zomfg Zoranth Tech: probably should have asked that before reformatting
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: if you have an mcl file... you can extract the aliases as well
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: lol, dont feel like the Lone Ranger, we've all been there at some point
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zomfg Zoranth :)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: this aardwolf customized mushclient package is pretty sweet
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: no, thank you :)
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Only thing it is missing is... Predict Rapture script :p
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I don't think the rapture is going to affect our online numbers too much.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: one question tho, most chat is going to my comm log window and the regular window
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher winks suggestively.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: chats echo off, should toggle it out of main window. I believe.
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: just right click on the comm window now
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: perfect
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: man, this gets sweeter and sweeter
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: where the hell was THIS client at 15 years ago lol
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: this is what zmud should have been
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: imho
T3/r3/2011-03-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I need to upgade already, got T0 R1's using the mapper and beating me on GQs :p
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper go 14220
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Found 1 targets.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: Walking to: Base of Mount duNoir
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: No point doing this while you are speedwalking
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what does that mean?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what does what mean
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no point in doing this while you are speed walking?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that looks like a message from the game.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i cant do mg 14220 from recall
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on. let me check the plugin...
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it means you tried to use the mapper to find a path while you were in the middle of a speedwalk
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how can that be?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: easy. you first tell me what you are doing.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper goto 14220
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: manually typing that in?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no i have an alias mg * = mapper goto %1
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper goto 14220
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did this just start happening?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh i have a custom portal in there... sorry
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what custom portal?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: a speedwalk from mayhem..
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I need more details.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have a custom speedwalk from mayhem to dunoir... lets say maprun dunoir, so i did a mapper portal maprun dunoir at the entrance... then i changed "maprun dunoir" to do mapper goto 14220
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: since its a portal it tries to do it "maprun dunoir" which calls "mapper goto 14220"
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh hoh, tricksy
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can only suggest not doing that :)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im trying to convert all my speedwalks to the mapper now, some of which has custom portals from wayback
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: true...
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have a special routine which I have not put into the client package that basically replaces runto with a maprun to the nearest room in the area I want to go to
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: hehe same
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't like the idea of making runto obsolete by default, though.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's kind of ironic, actually...
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats basically what i have... but then i put it as a custom portal to the mapper....then now i replace the content of those routines... which breaks the mapper
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Have you used the script that high lights CP mobs ?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: runto was built into the mud to replace the functionality of one of my old zmud scripts that everyone was using
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which kind of (but not exactly) made my script obsolete for most people
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: where can i get the script that highlights cp mobs?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: now I have something that would make mud runto obsolete
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: or gq mobs for that matter
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: payback is a bit*h? eh
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Sheni: I wrote a script to highlight CP mobs for zmud once ages ago.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Ahh nice, heard a rumor there is a MUSH version floating around.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: link?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: scanlighter iirc
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I know that Bast has a campaign monitor plugin. I wouldn't be surprised if he accepts a request to add in scan highlighting to it.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have used one before... i ditch it cause i was relying on it for gqs...not a good idea
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not everyone is using mush though, fiendish
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it basically slows me down
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ranrr: what is that a response to?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: now I have something that would make mud runto obsolete
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't see why that statement is less true just because some people choose to not use a superior client.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i believe the algorithm is still the same no matter which client you are using
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: well, it's not supported on all platforms....
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient works on all platforms
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all platforms that are either windows or support running Wine, anyway.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so it works on Linux and Mac OS X
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: perhaps i'll try it again one day
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use it in Linux. I know a lot of other people do too. And I've also used it on a Mac.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I actually tried it for about 1 hour when I started playing, but I couldn't agree with it. But, I'll give it a new try some day.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: You'll probably find that a lot has changed since December 2009.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I guess so :)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I used it on Linux. Worked fine. (Until Fiendish convinced me I was stupid not to run it on my Windows host).
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: TY, BTW
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm probably not your average player in that regard, I don't even have a windows machine available anymore.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't either.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: Finally! I'm done making that stupid promo video...
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Read that wrong too :-P
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: 3D Dodgeball... What a pain in the butt
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tarnis Tech: oops miss
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: anyone here uses Atlantis client on a mac to play?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use mushclient on mac.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: zMud on Mac
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: are those better than atlantis? :)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: silly me... just too tired...using imm instead of tech all the time
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: mushclient is a pc software
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it runs in Wine
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maoi Tech: how do u use zmud on mac?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: im a newbie in technology, dont really know what to do on computers
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: parallels desktop, vmware fusion, bootcamp, WINE
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: so i need to download WINE too?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just use this. http://www.playonmac.com/en/
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maoi Tech: i am using mudlet. i think its pretty decent. u should try it too
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: technophobe buys a mac, why doesn't that surprise me?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I install playonmac and then I run mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: i see... let me try athat after i level
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i mud on a complex series of NAND gates, lights and switches
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bladesinger Tech: i am sick of making aliases for everything would love to use variables
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do i reload basts script?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do i reload basts plugins?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: are mush's aliases capable of matching multiple lines through regex?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: zmud's are, so i would assume so
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and if they're not, i'm sure you could emulate it with a bit of scripting
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud multiline regex doesn't work, btw
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: zmud most things don't work, btw
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or don't work as documented, or aren't documented
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or are incorrectly documented
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, that's pretty much it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: or any combination of the above
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: there is multiline checkbox on mushclient triggers. But I never tried it yet
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why would you want a multiline alias?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but their multiline regex for triggers does work, yes
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: \n should be usable in mush
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: assuming gammon implemented regex properly. zugg almost got it, so it shouldn't be that difficult
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: just a shame zugg only almost got run over
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh well, i've been using zmud for 10+ years, i think
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cursed be the day when i got used to the wretched thing and never bothered to rewrite all my scripts for a decent client
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there any way of stopping mapper commands executing immediately in an alias in mushclient, for example an alias which does 'runto area' then 'mapper goto room' executes the mapper goto before the runto completes
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: speedwalk delay?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not sure what you mean by that, can you explain a bit more?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, I've figured it out partly, 'speedwalk delay' works but won't execute the 'mapper goto', I guess I need to somehow make it do both 'speedwalk delay' and 'execute'. Would echoing something unique then triggering the mapper goto command do the trick?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: should yea
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, thanks, I'll give it a try
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks again, that worked perfectly, now I never have to worry about vidblain coords again :)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: nice i have a similar one
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: everytime i start mush i get spammed by "Timer function "display_timer" not found or had a previous error." what can i do to solve this?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: Is there a way to configure doors (and door opening) in the mapper for the aard mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: wishfor passdoor :)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Konax Tech: Ss that a no or a don't know?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: does anyone know how to reset the bast spellup plugin when the recoveries get screwed up
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: hmm... does something in angle brackets not show up in gmcp for the rest of ya'll?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: eh?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: things in gcmp aren't supposed to 'show up'
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: if i put something in brackets "<" and ">" can you see it?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: did you see "test" at the end of that sentence?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i can see that yes, but i don't run gcmp
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Shows up for me in the chat capture window, which I believe is GMCP based.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: well then you aren't helping me ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that would mean that Lasher made a typo somewhere involving a missing double quote.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: something some in band in angle brackets shouldn't be being interpreted as out-of-band at the other end, surely?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: maybe dunno
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: in my %gmcp file, i can see it, but not in my capture window, so maybe cmud is messing it up
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: if zugg had a hand in it, be glad it works at all
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Nimwit Velian boggles at the concept.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, cmud is not messing it up. You simply decided to use a shortcut and ran into an issue.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav is agreeing with that Feral Farkyss person again...
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: he'll probably fix it when he releases dmud, which he'll charge you for
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's the equivalent of using abbreviations with playernames here in aard and having whatever you were going to do get sent to a different player.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even Mush regularly falls victim to such things
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i don't believe you!
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: for most of us oldies, though, zmud is like that beaten up old car on which pretty much everything is broken or held together with tape, but its.... comfy
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Feral Farkyss.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: zmud is not cmud, though, however easily zmud scripts will port over. Enough bugs have been fixed (just considering existing-from-ZMud ones) to make it seem like Nick Gammon took a long vacation from Mush.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, but you neglect principles
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: MUSHclient doesn't have any known bugs afaik.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's open source, of course it's got bugs, and it'll probably have a bugtracker too
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: eh? mushclient isn't open source :\
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it doesn't have any known/reported bugs. And yes it is.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (iirc)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: call it a feature tracker then
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: SOURCE
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, never saw a mention on the mush site
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho i noticed there's a link to something that stallman wrote, so i guess it's open source
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX :)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and faq claims it's freeware
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can you trust your computers?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that requires context
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: zmud is also freeware.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some versions of it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: e.g. the old horribly broken ones that only run on w95/98
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: only three versions of ZMud operate at this time, 4.62, 7.21, and any illegal cracks floating around still.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the faq claims that it's freeware because it was written before the source was available, and it seems that Nick hasn't been educated on the problems of using that word
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: ahh, 4.62 a vintage year
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it just seems the faq has not been updated or parts of it....
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some versions of zmud are freeware as in no money, but not free software. mushclient is free/open source software by the definitions of the OSI and FSF
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: though zmud is also freeware...but mushclient is still being constantly developed even to this day
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not terribly interested in the intracacies, it's either free or it isn't afaic
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hehe, no, 7.21 is not freeware.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: zmud just has an evaluation period. it's not freeware
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: bought mine around 5.something
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least 7.21 isn't
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is free and then there is free for us to modify, retristribute our modifications, read the source code, and learn from it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i wouldn't be surprised if he put extra bugs in 7.21 to try and get people to buy cmud
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Nimwit Velian Tech: heh wonder what version i started with (96)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which is all the funnier since enough people still want to buy it that Zugg feels he needs to keep the link up even though he's clearly announced that it's a dead project.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, all the supposed extra bugs are because he stopped bending over backwards to do stuff that both gives the users what they want and gets around the crap MS pulled over the intervening years.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the whole reason for designers is so that the disarray of thought that comes with a community of ideas can be filtered out. In other words, to edit out the stupid.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I've heard it all now, blaming MS for things like windowing problems, or text imports breaking, or logic on parsing scripts being incorrect
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mushclient itself is free as in opensource, but it depends on some library/toolkit (MFC?) which is not free. You needed to buy license from microsoft last time I looked into this
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or bizarre regex implementation
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, I'm talking real wm_message bugs. MS was literally not sending the correct ones or was sending them in the wrong order.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm having hard time believing it uses pcre, since i don't have to hack my expressions under other software i use
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'll have to inform us what those are and what they affect
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the kind of bugs that lead to autoupdate patches.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mmnm i love autoupdate patches, theyre the main reason i use a firewall program
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so some of MS deliberately permits crap to be in Windows software so that only those with deep pockets are able to develop commercial software - tsk
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: pfffttt...as a netadmin that has to support servers too, it utterly pisses me off that MS logs post error id's with a link to MS event support sites that cant even find the id in reference. seriously?!!?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: MS sucks. Can't believe they've become the huge market dominance they have
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, ms error id's are as helpful as google support
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Linux ftw
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: lol. yup.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: I wish
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Even Mac is better than windows, and that says alot.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what's "better"?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: nah. mac sucks too. i dont want them telling us what we have to do...
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is no "universal" good for anything os
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: theyre no better
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: More stable, less errors, *slightly* less restrictive for users.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: great for servers, not that great for a desktop
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I prefer linux where if something is outside of where i put my own user for security reasons i just do "sudo !!" and the problem is solved.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ms has had *nix like security since vista
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uac = gksudo
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: agreed. but then the end user headaches override the benefit of admin responsibilities
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: uad = suxgudo
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Nods, but i don't want 10 zillion windows asking me if i'm sure i'm sure that this is really what i want to do, and that if i'm sure that i'm sure about being sure.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: uac == sudo - no way....
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ... /etc/sudoers?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: uac == !sudo
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: for the end-user
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when Vista was replaced by Win7, those humorous Mac interacting with PC ads soon disappeard
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w7 is awesome
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's because Apple's still learning how to hack into it.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: win 7 sucks too- im loving xp more all the time- they should have left it alone and just improved the security
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar, maybe i should learn how to hack as well
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers intently at Dokkar.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You have chosen to run a program you explicitly clicked on for a reason? Would you like to run it? -- yes -- Please confirm that you're sure -- yes -- You still want to run this? -- yes -- Ok, we'll run it and ask 1/2 through the process for confirmation yet again
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. i never want to go back to xp since i tried out 7
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't get that, cheez
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: maybe ill feel diff about 7 in 3 years like we did about xp
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 7 is 'prettier' that's about it, i can make glass buttons on *NIX too :P
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cheezeburger maybe they want to make sure that you didnt change your mind
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use windows classic theme :P
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cheezeburger can you make glass icons on console though? =(
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: There's the other thing. You want to do this? Here, let us practically madate that you use this program that costs you money, and completely ignore the fact that you have installed the open source equivalent.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: can you make a wireless key stick through unchecking that you dont want it to autoconnect?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, i use linux and windows. trying to get the right tool for the job, you know
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: If you're on console you have no reason for buttons regardless of OS.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the right tool is always the one you write yourself.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: can you get gpo's to work with the fancy new item level stuff? only half my OUs printers apply at any given time...
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: linux doesn't support my soundcard and linux sound servers suck
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm sure there's a linux build, you just need to find/compile it.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least that was the situation a year ago when i tried out a desktop distro (ubuntu)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: What laptop you running?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: love the idea, but implementation stinks
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: toshiba satellite
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I had issues with my Toshiba Satelite l655
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have an external soundcard
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that one
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: it works now
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The wifi won't out-of-the-box, but if you have ethernet there's a ppa for it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the sound sucked when i tried it on a lenovo
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: never used lenovo besides the school's computers, so hard to say on that one.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just a standard soundcard with a realtek chip
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: gah...i came to play and forget this stuff
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the sound worked, but it sounded bad
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: have fun guys
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Realtek itself offers linux drivers for their hardware
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, had these
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think it's pulseaudio
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Know which build offhand?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I had to change some configs in alsa mixer, but other than that sound is great on 10.10
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ubuntu lynx, iirc
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still, it doesn't support my external sound card nor can i run traktor on it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't have foobar, zmud, notepad++
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 11.04 is coming out soon anyways, and afaik they're including the rtl8192ce chipset driver in the official build, which works for the 8188ce which satelite uses
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i know there's an open-source alternative and i've tried them all. they just suck.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I've had no issues at all short of compiling/installing, except when i booboo'd and put a 32bit OS on my 64 bit box
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: instead, i could use w7 which a nice, fast, secure and stable operating system
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: desktop operating system*
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: have to manually install the drivers for a fresh win7 install too :P
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: w7 actually gets me the manufacturer drivers via windows update
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I ran dual boot win7 and 10.10 on this box for ever, the 7 partition never got used and ate up my HDD, so i said eff it and backed up my /home and /etc folders and wiped the drive.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmn
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe i should back up my /etc
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i have small server running debian. it's a seedbox and a fileserver
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: only back up /etc if you're a tweaker and change alot of crap
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and i love it. it's great
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I have 3 boxes atm, 1 runs 10.04, another 10.10 and another arch
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: i do a wipe ever 3 monts atm
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The 10.04 is my webserver, the 10.10 is my personal machine, and the arch is just for on-the-go use
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but sorry, linux, you suck as a desktop
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you should backup /etc even if you are not a tweaker
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I couldn't get windows running on the machine I'm using for my desktop (just a thin client to my other pc via vnc) so I use linux although to be fair that's as much by preference since I do like linux, and I can't afford to buy windows vista, windows 7 or a good enough pc to run them well on
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I hear 11.04 isn't even using gnome as their desktop environment :P
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Their using the one that comes on 10.10 netbook remix
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: with better 3d support
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: according to distrowatch that is
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yay, better 3d support for games i can't play
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Not true
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I play games all the time on my linux machine
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: besides aard that is
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, sure, crossover
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: aard runs on everything with internet :P
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all i'm saying that you don't have to choose sides. be reasonable and get the best of both worlds
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Albeit, it's via virtualization, but still playes without fail.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: meh, i have a virtual machine of doze if i /really/ need it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gravis UltraSound Max was a great sound card - 16 separate independant sound crystals, analog mixed, and a professional set of *.PATch files (to play midi music) - vastly superior to "SB value" crap -- (i miss hearing DukeNuken3D music played on Gravis)
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: haven't had cause to start it up yet though, i ran it long enough to install and register and shut it down
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: my system is powerful enough to run Duke Nukem Forever.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Gravis UltraSound Max with 16 separate independant sound crystals analog mixed was actually repeatable analog in the final output
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the real question is if it can run dorf fortress
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh no...unity on 11.04... i had to ditch my unity in favor of gnome for its stability issues on my netbook :(
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: dagnir is that another game not yet released?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's old already
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey, it can use up all cpu and want more on any machine
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, perhaps I'll just upgrade to Heroes' Journey. I hear it's going to change the face of the graphical MMO community.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you like dwarf fortress, you should play Goblin Camp instead.
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heard about it, haven't got around to it
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what makes it better?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was playing boxed CD set (cost $63 on boxing discount day in the late 1990s) of Rolling Stones music from the 1960s - sounds like partial crap compared to the analog versions - too much missing fine detail
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: residing in the rural country, there is not much noise - hearing is excellent
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Any *NIX users having issues with firefox 4 and adobe flash plugins?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep, couldn't get flash running at all, so I reverted to firefox 3
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I don't use flash that much, but youtube seems to work for me. ff4.0, x86_64
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone use bast's spellup miniwin? After remorting, how do I make "bsp sadd all" work only on the spells I have right now again?
T3/r3/2011-03-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Try spellup none, then spellup all??
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: my friend was wondering how much bandwidth it would take to play aardwolf because his internet connection is a smaller data plan
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very little
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: not much
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: I use to run 4 clients at once with dial up.. not on aard since its illegal... but a diff mud ^^
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: especially with MCCP, since the text compresses very well
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Eh... How do I reset the bast miniwin thingy again :| Its off screen
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: well at least i've got an official excuse for having low productivity at work: Windows 7 64bit and Java don't get on - officially from Oracle
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: I could have told them that 10 years ago...
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: does anyone, by an miracle of chance, have any experience of using the program "ArcGIS"?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia boggles at Feral Farkyss.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not personally. I had to sit in the geography computer lab a few times, though.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (that probably counts for something, but it won't help you)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia THWAPS Jhav for being a moron.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nogs, need some instruction on how to get a .shp file uploading to an oracle database in locator format
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: all the people in the organisation I work for who 'use' ArcGIS don't know how
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Maybe google a user's manual
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: google is very good at trying to sell you stuff, but pretty rubbish at everything else
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Ok. Try yahoo then
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Wiki!
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: i'll just set an SEP field around it for now
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: is there anyone who is good at excel programming in vb ?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dext Tech: ick
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: does anyone use the bast spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tons of people do
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: I seem to be having a problem, after I used flay it spit out an error and now none of the countdown timers are working. They get to 0 and then just go negative
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: I have used it with that skill before with no issues
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to file -> plugins, click it and click reload
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: has anyone else had the plugin freeze up?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xitium Tech: I don't see reload, I see reinstall is that the one?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: as far as i'm concerned linux power users are terminal lovers
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ouch... :(
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that one, sorry :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: they're tree-huggers
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: since they do things with root
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: or pervs... mount...zip...touch...finger.. *rolls eyes* oh yeah and root too
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: un-mount, un-zip, un-finger? *boggle*
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: hahah
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is the reward for realms of the sacred flame?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps mis can
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: opps mis chan
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh...
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's the syntax in regex for negative look behind?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Morning all. Can someone explain memory paging to me better? For example, if I say I have a 32 bit logical address, and a 4kb page size, with 512 mb of physical memory, does that mean I would have 512*1024/8 (8 bits in a byte) bytes, divided by 4 for the page size, number of references in a single level page table?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that sounds like homework
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: It is homework. Homework with a professed solution, which I just realized is wrong
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: The /8 should be removed, for one.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: The question is, am I looking at it right?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how do i overwrite the copywrite thingy?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Lukesmart's weird actions.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: 4 kilobit page size is sn odd rxpression -- is 512 bytes
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the term is copyright, not copywrite.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Overwrite the copyright on what, specifically?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: uhm dvd
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Why is a 4KB page size an odd expression?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: We cannot give advice on violating US law here.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: you're on the internet.. trust me you can figure that one out on your own Lukesmart
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol do the police play this game?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stick em up
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Go play with web pages if you want to do things like that
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: 5.0 5.0 wuh i wonder if i hit the police already?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: guilty conscience?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: hello policemen!
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: do the u.s.a police have mastaches?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not a law policeman, i'm a traditions and ideals policeman
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: 512 MB (MB = 1024*1024 bytes when speaking off ram) divide by 4 KB pagesize (KB = 1024 bytes) is 64K entries (maybe a few less since intel and ibm were slightly incompetent when designing DMA-type-chip access)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: who wants a mustache ride!
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: super troopers ftw!
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's all well and good, but take it to gossip
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dented Domain Tech: keep this channel open for tech questions and discussions, thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: fingerprants?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Okay, so I did understand it right, thank you.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: night! Happy law enforcing!
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: hope you dont die or get shot
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: though humans are able to conceptualise a 64K entries table, the software accessing hardware may be incompetent and or the hardware fickle, and may insist on something less (not sure, merely conjecturing here)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: In understanding inverted page tables, how can I figure out what the size of a page is (not the hwk question, just trying to understand the hwk)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Silly question, but is POST or GET the method that can be done via the url?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: both can
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No, one has hidden values and the other can be done by http:/site/?this=that
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Aha, get is done via URL, post is hidden.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Finally i got the right google wording :P
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: How do i connect to a mysql db on my local network but not on my local machine? IE, how do i make it login as rootother machine's local IP> instead of localhost?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: root@*
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: bah....i hit something on my laptop and now my prompt is off the screen in mushclient...
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: anyone know how to quickly fix this?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: type prompt to bring it back
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps if you explained the issue a bit more clearly we could help better
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: my prompt is there...it is just off screen....ie the window has resized
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hit the maximize button then
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: nevermind....just changed the view to full screen mode and it is back
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: do you have daul screens?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: dual- ive had issues with win7 and dual screens with apps bumping off the the 2nd screen when its not there (ala laptop)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: yeah- task mgr > max the app fixes
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how can you have dual screens on a laptop?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: there is just a grey bar between my command line and the 'time to tick' message...it resized my windows.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: external monitor
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: i have that too shape
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: time connected? not sure
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: figured it out...i must have hit something that added a toolbar...moved the top of my screen down and pushed the prompt off the bottom.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: ha! good
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ok, quick and quirky question. Is it possible to convert width/height in pixels into width/height in characters?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What context?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes if you know your font metrics
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: divide by Pi
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: from within a script, specifically a CMud one. I can get the pixels, but I'm not sure if I can get access to font specifics.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what about the font would I need to go looking for?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: dokkar, you looking for outputfontname and outputfontsize? (%pref options)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: apparently they aren't doing anything...hmm
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a gmcp tag for max health
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja take a look at the gmcp wiki page?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yea must have over looked it
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh hehe duh it wasn't clicking
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: char.maxstats is what you're looking for
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have my gmcp parser create a hp & mana percent value when I receive char.vitals, just easier to go off that than calculate it in each script I use that cares :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anybody use wicket in here?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: wicket = a web framework for java
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shathrin Tech: how do i use my arrowkeys as directional cues? my laptop has no keypad.
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what client?
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shathrin Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-03-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: mushclient? goto "Game" the "Configure" the "Macros"
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: how can I log the output from my chat monitor plugin (using the aardclient)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Right click on the window, Logging to File
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I have that option enabled, but I don't know where it saves/what the file name is?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: fuckin sigh...
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: havin that same stupid problem with the internet again
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travectan Tech: cant use any internet explorers but i can use aardwolf :/
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dracquile Tech: hello
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Feral Farkyss peers around himself intently.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Greetings.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dracquile Tech: does anyone know any good-free iPhone apps for mudding?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: yep, a pc
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there are no good phone clients for mudding because phones are not good for mudding
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dracquile Tech: sad but true
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: not sad :-)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: an ipad app is adequate if it is your only option
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: there was once talk of a mud client for paper cups with string between joining them
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: does anyone have chrome canary build (yellow) installed ?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arch-Mage Raistlin Tech: is there a way to change the mush theme?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: I HATE SYSTEM REPAIR! IS A WASTE OF TIME!
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: heh?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: saved my ass a few times
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: what u think when your pc encounter this! coz of major problem on the hardware..
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: plz spam abit
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: sorry to bother, which article should be used in a phrase 'I live on ___ sixth floor of a tall building' ?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: What for?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: another one please if someone can - 'By this time next year, I (will sell / will have sold / have sold ) my house. 2nd is correct, right ?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Would have sold?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: will have sold
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: disclaimer: english is my second language
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neocypher Tech: i would have said ' have sold'
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: meh 2
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Termi Nehtor Tech: Hmm, I'd have said both the first and second would work...
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: I would have made up my own
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: bast running into a problem when installing miniwin_stats.xml (http://pastebin.com/3e8xjErf) if you have time ofcourse.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: in java, arithmetic int n = 4/5*6 ans is 4. why isnt it 0?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: doesnt it evaluate n from left to right?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: 4/5 = 0, 0*6 = 0
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'd guess it uses floating point for the maths then converts to an int when you assign it to an int
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: that make sense.. round up or down or depends ?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: seems like its down all the down
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Well, if it's doing that it must be rounding down from 4.8 to get 4
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: nod. i just tried int n = 1*2/3 and i get 0. so im assuming 0.666.. rounded down.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: man when im revisiting java kinda interesting to see it reacting this way
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Looks likely, I haven't done any java for a long while so I'm only guessing
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: not rounded down, it just strips off anything after the decimal, it doesn't say hmm 4.8 rounds down to 4, it just says, drop the .8
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That's have the same overall effect though wouldn't it?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: same overall affect, but much less efficient for rounding down than just stripping the .8
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: same overall effect, but calling it 'rounding' implies there might be a way to get it to round normally, there isn't.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: just toss the calculation in brackets and add 0.5 to get 'rounding'
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for some definition of rounding
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: stripping the decimals is a bitwise operation, rounding is a math operation -> bitwise faster
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it wouldn't follow, for example, the banker's rounding algorithm
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: in java int value = floor(math expression)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bah, I hate java
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I want a bank algorithm, I want the government to collect money from taxpayers and give it to me so that I can loan it back to the taxpayers for 5% interest.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Would you also like to be too big to fail?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: It's a great deal for the taxpayers, if they pay enough interest they get to not pay tax on it!
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: pfft, i just want yer spellup
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I used to quite like Java but then Oracle went and aquired it and it seems a whole lot less open and friendly so I've gone off it a lot
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Java just became some big bloated mess with hundreds of confusing and competing APIs
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: use a sewer company and throw em off
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: I actually got sun certified on Java when Java 2 came out, but it sucks now.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: thanks bast.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: lasher knows best this game is all about arithmetic. can i get all my stats to be doubled? just shifting of the binary digits right
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: the first version of v3 was in java, some people probably even remember helping test it.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: 0001 = 1 to say 0100 = 4. 4 times!
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Haven't you been listening? It would be more efficient for me to truncate your stats than increase them.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Macbeth: unless you're at your limit.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I remember the announcement about it, i think that is when I left the mud for a couple of years ;)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ah damn.. lol
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'd agree on the bloat, it used to be a lot better, although an ide like netbeans or eclipse makes it a lot clearer. I've always liked perl, c and c++ a lot more than java anyway :)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: when beginning of v3 i was away as well
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: VIM+Cscope is still the best IDE ever ... once you get past the first 8 years or so of confusing key sequences :)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: anyway, back to work..
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Work, work.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: lasher work = reboot coming soon
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: But on the plus side it probably means new shiny things to play with :)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: yeah i love reboots
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: new announce notes, qreset...
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spongy Eadric Tech: does Windows 7 support Zmud 721?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I remember java v3 wasn't fast enough
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spongy Eadric Tech: guess i'll find out when my new comp is ready :D
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: or you can copy/paste your question to google
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: anyone on that might be interested in helping me create a website? have no clue what i am doing
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: I've run into something strange. When logging into aardwolf, inserting your password (on MUSH) causes your input to be blank so whoever else can't read it. But suddenly when I insert my password, it goes in as normal but nothing happens. I had to stack my name and password to log in. Anyone got ideas?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagas Tech: there is no one on that can build a website?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: check for login triggers?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: I also disconnect frequently..
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Haven't made a change to my client at all
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: My browser also won't connect to any websites
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch King Sammael Tech: Keeps timing out
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: fiendish: /print(GetAlphaOption('command_stack_character'))
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i use the client i got from aardwolf site. when i download new version all my fonts look horrible in wine? why?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have the font it's trying to use
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is set for Dina I think.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: ok i'll install some fonts. thanks !
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would download droid fonts and use them. I like them.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: droid fonts righto :)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: anyone make netflix work under linux?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620640
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thargar thanks Turie heartily.
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: How do i lock the mini windows from moving around?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't drag their handles
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: Ah okay .. and who knows the Bast plugins best? my Pc crashed (cpu and motherboard) a while back and i forgot which ones to use to automatically start up 3moons .. i know the one is tick something
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast knows the bast plugins best
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: Bast is currently offline
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Maybe the aardwolf tick timer? That's part of the main distribution
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you enabled the miniwin_moons plugin?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: haven't added any plugins yet as my Pc was just brought to life today
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's stuff is designed to automatically enable prerequisite plugins when you try to enable one of them
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: ah found it, miniwin_moons broadcast_tick Broadcast_state .. Thanks A lot :D
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: has anyone got a working cp/gq mob highlight script for scan miniwindow (mush)
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What scan miniwindow for mush?
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: idk one of those would be nice too
T3/r3/2011-03-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lost Vagus -p
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone familar with yashiro's spellup?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh god
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: people still use that?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: or can you point me onto a better one? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: hey its on your site! :P
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: spellup :)
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its pretty good...
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's on my site for purely historical reasons
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: must be accurate documenters of historyt
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just switch to mushclient :)
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: haha fair enough, so get rid of it? stupid thing keeps casting my already casted spells lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: someone told me it just got a revamp?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "it"
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: well was the client recently upgraded?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "the client"
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: has it been changed in the last say 6 months? mushclient that is
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hahah yes
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see the other half of my site
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: is that screen shot the client with a bunch of plugins or do those come with?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: click on downloads
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: hmm wierd. using basts v6 stats miniwindow script and it seems to stop updating. no longer reflects my current qp and preciously did the same when i leveld. had to disable/enable it to get it to update
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does your prompt end in %c?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i don't use a prompt..
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: what's the %c do?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Carriage return
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: is the carriage return supposed to be there or no?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but if you don't use a prompt, then it won't matter
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: still not updating
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ask bast. *shrug*
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: when i do a whois i get "Trigger function "whois_end" not found or had a previous error." message now
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: where can i find font changes in the mushclient fiendish?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ouptput settings
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: press Alt+5
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: got it thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: when i hit F1, which i made a macro for it prompts with "failed to laung help" can i disable this?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's an option you have to enable for setting fkeys as macros, I believe
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: well the macro works, it just prompts with the unable to launch help as well :S
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's in global preferences under the file menu
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "F1, F6 are macros"
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a checkbox
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably stops that from happening
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: thanks man!
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: sorry one more question.. cant remember what the these are "{coords}0,30,20" to turn them off
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like you were using bigmap?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type tags coords off
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you want, Bast has a bigmap plugin that is part of his v6 script package that drops on top of my mushclient release
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ok time to idle and leave you alone. Thanks for the help!
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi!
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Ellu :3
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone expert in using Vyatta?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone got an app to spit a terminal into panes?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: linux... i had one before i forgot its name
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its terminator :D
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone else using atlantis?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia shakes her head.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: I heard it fell into the sea
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Democratic Armenia looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: my AV software auto scans anything I put in a USB slot. Is there something I could put on a USB drive that would scan any computer I plug it into? or any idea of how to facilitate this behavior?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: could look for something on portableapps.com
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: thanks. I'll dig through there and see what I find
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urughak Tech: looks like clamwin and spybot, but think youd have the manually start em up
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: so i mentioned this last night and no one had any clues. I'm using Bast's minwin_stats plugin for MUSH and it doesn't seem to update with changes to the stats once the window opens. It shows all the stats I had at connection but, for instance, it doesn't reflect a loss of HP or gain of QP...
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: and i dont use a prompt so it's not the %c that someone mentioned yesterday
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i just downloaded the newest version of mush and it has a stat window that works fine? maybe you need the new version?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vagus, it uses gmcp data just like the one included in aardwolf, do you use any other windows that use gmcp data?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lost Vagus Tech: i think the problem i'm having is stemming from the error I get when i do a whois: "Trigger function "whois_end" not found or had a previous error."
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then there was a previous error. The content of that error is what you need to tell us.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: reload the broadcast_whois plugin, type "whois" and paste the error to pastebin.com
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/uslocations/mountain-view/autocompleter/index.html
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: april fools! :P
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yea, they always have a descent one
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/motion.html
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Good typing skills (at least 32,000 WPM).
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a way to tell if cmud mapper is using gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep, open up Preferences and check the Protocols section.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i have room 1
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if the GMCP tab's GMCP Emulation has a checkmark next to it, then the mapper is using GMCP.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's the problem, or were you just curious?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yea do i need to set it up any configurations to read the rooms right
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, you won't capture any descriptions without a trigger, but it should work ok without them.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you will also want to turn on the Real VNum stuff that uses the GMCP room num sent by aard
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: the wizard isn't properly detecting exits and all that good stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I think that's a bit of a bug. You won't really need to configure anything, since the GMCP code ignores all that anyways.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the real vnum stuff is found in Map Config in the speedwalking section (use vnum to match rooms)
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ahh ok i have that checked
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and, finally, slow walking is broke with regards to GMCP. Safe mode is currently the best mode for it.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ok i use that mostly anyways
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is it hard to script a trigger to cap room desc
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not really, but it's a tad more involved than handling the name/exits taglines.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nah, just use the old-fashioned tags
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what I use for the roomdesc trigger is this:
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: state 0 is #trigger {^~{rdesc~}$} {#gagspace;rdesc = ""}
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: what do you mean by state 0
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: state 1 is #condition {^(*)$} {#if (%1 = "{/rdesc}") {#state tRoomDesc 0;#if (%maplocked() = 0) {#call %roomdesc(,%expandlist(desc,%cr))}} {rdesc = %additem(%1,rdesc)}} {manual}
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: state 1 is #condition {^(*)$} {#if (%1 = "{/rdesc}") {#state tRoomDesc 0;#if (%maplocked() = 0) {#call %roomdesc(,%expandlist(@Rdesc,%cr))}} {rdesc = %additem(%1,rdesc)}} {manual}
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol i don't know very much when it comes to this scripting stuff lol
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what cast bast spellup 'bsp' to halt?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what causes bast spellup 'bsp' to halt?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask him. I do not know. I just click on the spell name on the brief mini-window.
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: there is a miniwindow in bsp?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: if I feed python a path is there something built in that says "tell me what folder you're in" or would I have to lstrip, or something similar, up to the last \ ?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}. o O ( ) Habasi Tech: I found what I need
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: uhm i just downloaded the aard client for windows 7 but its just showing extract files ?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it comes as a .zip, no?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ja but dont know what to do should i extract
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well...you probably can't run it if you don't...
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: got a folder,box with books. And i think books all name aardwolf mud client what now?
T3/r3/2011-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torio Tech: ok im on my pc now lol
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: man, ubuntu support for my ipod touch 3g 32g blows, i cannot find anything that will actually cop music to it successfully.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apple products are all garbage
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: amarok, gtkpod, hipopod
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: apple products only work with apple products
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They couldn't be arsed to just allow drag-and-drop on the damn thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: the ipods rock man, i love mine and i have been an apple hater since aIIe
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have an ipod touch and it's essentially unusable, I can't do anything with it.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Read the manual.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: but i hate the itunes connection they rty to force us into
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a fine product. it's just that Apple is not a freedom-loving company
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i have been off windows cold turkey for about six weeks now and this ipod thing has me considering going back to winxp *ugh*
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Itunes is the worst thing about it, it's the worst program ever written. They were stupid to not allow drag-and-drop and/or for it to be mountable as a network drive, if nothing else.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i agree, sjobs is a cock holster for that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a real shame, because I would love to get some use out of it, but alas, it's just not possible.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Sjobs is glad millions of other people don't agree with you both :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Steve Jobs should be shot dead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: ubuntu is finally becoming comfortable to me (except for my losing sony vegas/adobe premiere)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I hate apple, but i love their ability to sell stupid trash, and that's why i'm making money on their stocks.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak enthusiastically high-fives FootLong Cheezburger!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i can use tge ipod without a computer, but jailbreaking makes life so much easier
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I feel bad for my poor ipod touch even, I wish I could just copy my music to it without hassle :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: mne too, alwthough once jb it is cool having a touchscreen linux machine (pretty much anyway)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: We shouldn't have to 'jailbreak' it in the first place. What is their problem with letting us do what we want with what we purchased?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: control, power, jobs is drunk with it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you know, you guys could choose to just buy another non-Apple product
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It was a Christmas gift, Sneak
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if you haven't seen the futurama 'eye phone' episode, see it!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If I'd have known about it in advance I'd have told my mom to return it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: season 6 episode 2
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i already dropped nearly a 1k on three ipods. lol, i love em and aint gonna take any lesser knockoff
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I don't own a single apple item, i just buy their stocks for the silly goons who do :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you love them because they're easy to use?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: hmm, you'd have to use one for a while to see
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: No, people who buy apple product buy them because their 'shiny'
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they are in fact good products that just happen to be locked into a walled garden
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i still have some apple stock i bought in 91. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: And because jobs is a markey genius
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think they're particularly great
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: market*
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: creative made better players imo
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: still, if I had to choose between mac and windows, i would choose mac
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: fortunately, I can choose linux instead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I wish i could sell stuff for 5x their actual value and have a large customer base still
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it takes serious skill to do that :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i respect jobs for that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: indeed
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Don't like his company, but you can't argue he's done better than he should have with it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its jobs' mantra to only sell things at 2x profit.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My ipod touch is a couple of years old now, 8gb. Can I still upgrade the software or whatever?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: yes you can.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: the new nanos are addictive as hell :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: got one of those a couple weeks ago, grin
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's just a shame that it doesn't do drag-and-drop, because if it did I would use it all the time.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its fun!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: how the heck do you get addicted to a music player?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: man, i just realized that apl is selling at 340+ a share. I bought in around 17. lol, and several splits later...hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I thank you for making my stocks rise :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you're welcome Cheez :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: well, after I bought it, I had to get a mount for my car, just because it fit so well
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: snrrk
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and then, I had to get a motorola s10-hd headset for working out with it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: time to diversify that investment soon. lol, hate to have a bad keynote set me back lol
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: so when all was said and done, I use it a lot more than I intended to or than I had with previous apple products like my old ipod touch
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: size is exactly what I want in a music player :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Another of Job's awesome tactics, buy this -- and this for this -- and this to help that do this -- and this to make it do this -- oh and this because it looks cool when you use the other things
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: anyways
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Again, Steve Jobs should be shot dead.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Along with anyone with a color in their name.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I keep saying this, we need a rant channel :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox snuggles up to Redryn.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: cos you're too stupid or lazy to use a product properly?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: You may not like him, but you can't help but respect him nonetheless
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hating sociopaths should be shot dead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: I use immtalk, myself
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because of poor product design. It should have drag-and-drop access, and should not require Itunes to update. It's bad design, 100%.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think it's brilliant product design, it means it's hella hard to switch out from apple products
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And of course, idiot hipsters buy right into it.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: and you say this because?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: if millions of people can do it, I don't see why you can't...
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because it's bloody frustrating to use, that's why.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: And this is different from windoze users how?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: they work fine, as long as you use them exactly as intended. I never use products as intended, that's why I dislike them.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Exactly, I want to do what I want with my own property. I fail to see the problem with this. It's not as if I'm violating any laws.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I like to, erm, *coughstresstestcough* what i buy.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: cheez, lets compare investments in aapl, mine is up 8007.1% lol, i havent looked at it in years
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm up 8.7% :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Alot less :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: woot!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: over 150 shares
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: ive prob had mine longer
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: since 1991
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 150 shares or 150 lots?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nods, mines only about 4 or so years old.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 150 shares, 150 lots would be HUGE money
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: heh, for a moment i thought i should start sucking up :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: initially 1200 shares here
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I bought it through my parents when i got my first job
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: lot is 100 or 1000 shares in US?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: 100
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: to be fair, there are a lot of companies that you could have invested in in 1991 that would be insanely good investments
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: mmm I prefer my Google shares
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Bah, you all distracted me and i forgot i could quest.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I wanted some google shares, but $640/share was out of my money range, especially with 2% commission
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: grin, when they first opened, they were at $75 ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what amaru said :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: yeah, but i have 4800 shares now are 340+ each. thats a pretty nice return for fire and forget
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: might be enough for that condo ive been looking at
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: actually, it was $85 at start, Amaru
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: google scared me too much to get in early, but the UPS ipo i got a nice block of shares
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: a friend who managed to get goog at the ipo, sold immediately at 120, thinking he made a bargain. he is still leaving to regret, with me calling him finance genius....:)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I still have them from the $85 initial offering
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: hang on to them :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i would ghave loved a piece fo that action for sure
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: definitely, it's up by almost 1 percent again.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: about $592 now.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: should open an aard invetnment club then :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: lol :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: damn, aapl lost 1.13% today and i lost $18k
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: with new channel ...tech is somewhat unappropriate!
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: on paper anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: technical analysis
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: tech channel
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: oh, I see....
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: what did you expect, it is friday
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I like how SBUX is going atm.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it's saturday, not friday
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: fri selloff can suck sometimes
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: wouldnt surprise me if this pulls back to 3teens before te next push back up after summer
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: if this libya crap keeps pushing oil we could get a summer long rally
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Who the hell leaves the federal distribution warning on a pirated movie?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ignore that, it's not channel appropriate
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Straxxus dials the FBI.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: "Yes. Is it ok if I leave the FBI warning on my pirated videos?"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: lol, i do it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: how do i get mush tick counter back
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: check in the plugins directory
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you find it?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hi fiendish is it possible to flag room as norecall/noportal
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not right now
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe not ever
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless you make your own mods
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i see, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not willing to make the mapper as complete as I am able for mostly political reasons relating to encouraging botting
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: to a certain extent, the present one already allows for it :p
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: be careful making your own modifications, though. don't make it too difficult for yourself to merge in future updates.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is the default command completion combinations
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: can i completely re-map an area with the mapper plugin? like remove the old map i have and start over? the purgezone command isn't what I'm looking for.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I disagree. Best I can understand from your question, purgezone is exactly what you're looking for? It simply removes all the rooms from a specific area allowing you to remap them.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: well I did that command but on the visual map, all the rooms are still there.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the ascii map? that's generated game side..
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Are you referring to the minimap? That doesn't change.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: no on the mapper plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I think you need to restart? rooms are stored locally once loaded Ithink
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It will remove if you've used the correct keyword. What area?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh gotcha. brb after restart then :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I'm re-mapping land of the beer goblins
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mapper purgezone beer
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: that worked, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: does it use the same keywords as the runto command, then?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: the restart or the new purge command?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: the purge command with the keyword xaxz provided
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ohhh
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: I had used the full name.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The purge command worked. It uses whatever the area is named in the gmcp info. I haven't tested to see if they're one in the same
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm fairly certain it's always the same keyword listed in "areas keyword "
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: learn something new everyday, thanks xaxz :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: anyone familiar with triggers in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: easier if you just ask the question
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: how do i get triggers to work in mushclient? they arnt working properly
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: what is going wrong exactly?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: they just arnt going off at all when they should be, like it wont trigger off "Your cleave" like it would in zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the pattern
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: are they enabled (checkbox at bottom of triggers tab)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: well it was just "Your cleave" but someone told me to convert to regular function
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: and they are active
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it's regex, make sure the anchors aren't placed wrongly
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: $ signifies end of line
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: what does your trigger look like?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: ah it says "^Your pierce$"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: remove $?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: hmm nope
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is the tick for regex enabled?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's the problem... it's only looking for "Your pierce" The line you're triggering on is "Your pierce MUTILATES blah blah.." You can try "Your pierce *" and remove regular expressions
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: is anyone good at SQL queries?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm decent. What do you want to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zcrim Tech: nice thanks Xaxz :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: lol, doing a school project actually. kinda hard to explain though, but I'll contact you later if need be =P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fantomex Tech: Lets assume that I want to video chat with someone and whenever I say something, they don't really hear me... what do I do?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: turn your mic up
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: you could always visit them in person
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: or scream louder
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and make sure that your input device is set to whichever mic you're using
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: You could move your mouth and just type what you want to say
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: but typically - those porn sites they really cant hear ya
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Also make sure your mic is not muted, either by hardware or software.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone have trouble getting custom exits to perform correctly in the Kingsholm seals area? (Aardclient GMCP Mapper)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: also valid would be recording the sound earlier, then moving your mouth and re-playing the sound recording. out of phase, if possible.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone have trouble getting custom exits to perform correctly in the Kingsholm seals area? (Aardclient GMCP Mapper)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: nope.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I can get it to work nicely.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's custom exits there?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: Hmm, it's a tough call whether spamming is faster than triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ice Mage Demonspawn Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there's one room to open altar to open a door to the west
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not sure if thats what he's talking about
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No, I mean setting up custom exits in each room to "open e;e" etc
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you have all the keys already, that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, that's a whole different animal, xaxz
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: open east;;;;run e
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to update your mush
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh? What is happening that I don't know about?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper cexit open east;;;;run e That should do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the custom exit of "op e;e" is 1 room away...so is just moving e
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: Anyone using MushClient on OS X?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so unless you're using the latest dev version, there's no guarantee that the custom exit will be the one chosen
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: filst, plenty of people are (gammon was for a while iirc)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I see.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xaxz, there's a whole thread on this on the tech board
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish just updated the aardmapper.lua and Mapper itself too.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahhhh... ok. I don't subscribe, I'll have a look. Thanks Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: filst, mushclient works under wine, parallels, boot camp, fusion and crossover :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'd use mushclient if it had wasd bindings :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: yeah i'm using it right now, with x11, launched with playonmac, but i'm not doing it quite right
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entopee, it does :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: tech was hoping maybe someone had a similar setup and knew how to gethings set up initiailly right
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Abelinc, tell me more - Only thing that came up for me for WASD was accelerator stuff, and I didn't know how to implement that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, accelerator is just what wine calls "using any key as a macro without needing to hit enter"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Wine? Looks like accelerator's a mush thing
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, note that the big disadvantage to binding wasd to movement is that, y'know, you won't be able to type "tech what's up", since you'd be typing "tech nhwt's up"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'm using as a mask
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How the mudlet does
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, much better ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I also have F9-F12 vim bindings but unfortunately it's not home row, and on the same side as the enter key
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the accelerator helpfile shows examples such as "Accelerator ("Ctrl+K", "kill")
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: is there any way to copy a line from the mud and paste it with colour in cmud? I know zmud had this feature but cant get it to work on cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: set up color syntax in prefs, same way as in zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's at prefs -> ansi color -> color syntax
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: WASD and the preconfigured Mudlet tags controls are the only thing preventing me from moving to Mush, along with the fact that Wine doesn't play well with xmonad
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: unfortunately its not working ):
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: oh well
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd do "Accelerator ("ctrl+a","west")"...but you'd put that into the box that comes up after game -> immediate, since you're executing a script command instead of typing into the command prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Let me bring that up right now, as a matter of fact
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Must MUSHclient be run from terminal? Running it from Nautilus gives me an invalid path error
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: might be able to make a link to it so you can click via gui
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't need to be run from terminal, but it'll need its path to be known to it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not a big deal, I can just create a 1-line bash
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But back to where we were
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: in the mushclient can i have my typing echoed to the main window?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just a min while I change clients :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: filst, yes
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Okay, I'm in Mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands...top checkbox
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo my input in
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: oh, clarification, can it echo as i type?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: echo as you type? What do you mean.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does echo as you type...in the input area
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: yeah, i'm just not used to looking there, i've played on telnet style clients in the past
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: i'll adjust
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't be echoed to the main window because it's not sent yet
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a line-based client, not a character-based client
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better telnet-based clients operate the same way, btw ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: its pretty cool to have maps and stats and such on a hud
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue and tintin++ both have a visual mode that keeps input and output separated
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger nods at you in agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Whew, going to take a lot to make this like the preconfigured Mudlet :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we implemented an in-MUD visual mode in a MUD I played, wow, 10-16 years ago now :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, back
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so ya got mushclient all configured? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No, not all configured - still have to do aliases, triggers, everything - but I have to figure out this accelerator stuff before I delve into that
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you paste in what I typed?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Didn't know where to paste it *shameface*
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And it's lost in mudclient :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h game"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not lost in mudclient when Aard has channel histories ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: OOH IT WORKED PRETTY
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: repeat for the other directions & you're good to go :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: next step, finger bast, download his plugin folder...between the stuff that ships with aardmush and what bast has available, you'll probably find that you don't have too many triggers to make
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: MWAHAHA Thanks Abelinc, this is pretty cool - as for bast, I've tried using his stuff but doesn't a lot of it overlap?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Not much overlap at all, actually
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's modular
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he's got a foo_broadcast to grab the raw info, then foo_miniwin to display it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So if I just put it all in and do "import" and select all, I should be fine?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the info on the plugins, just add the ones you're interested in
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you add them by going to file -> plugins, click add
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you've unzipped the folder called "v6.1" into the mushclient/worlds/plugins folder
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, great - was just worried about dependencies but I guess they'll reveal themselves when I try to add them
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, for the most part, it'll auto-add dependencies
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one that it doesn't auto-add that I'd recommend is the miniwin_tabbar...it's kind of a master control for his miniwin stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'll make sure to add that first
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (note that my knowledge of mushclient and bast's stuff is based on paying attention to tech channel...I don't actually use mushclient myself)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: What do you use?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm an oldschool geek, I use tinyfugue
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't recommend it to most people
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I tried Tinyfugue
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Woulda gone with it because I'm a fan of minimalism, but I've found minimalism doesn't work (for me) for this game
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just turned 21...I've been using it for about 20 years ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a number of scripts for it that make it a bit less minimalist...channel capture to other windows, same for automap, hp/mana graphs for your group, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: That's dedication to a client I can't afford :(
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, no more dedication than to other clients...download script, import it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like that with tinyfugue, if I can get somewhere with a telnet prompt, I can have 100% of my script functionality...ipad, public computers, etc, even if run from thumb drives is disabled :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Now that's a thought
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midpssh on cell phone, ssh to computer running tf, screen -r & I'm logged in right where I left off
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Sorry if I'm seeming unresponsive - having fun adding these plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, it's always fun configuring kewl new stuff :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I think I'm set, just need to add aliases now
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: For emulating Windows
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Thanks for all the help
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone using firefox 4 on ubuntu having issues with the adobe flash plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I always have problems with Linux and flash
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's just a question of "which problem"
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'd talk with you more, but I have to eat now, sorry (double had to come right now :( )
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: hadn't had an issue insofar, just when i used 4.0. The flash videos and such have random black boxes and patches in it, but not on firefox 3.6.4
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i been having adobe plugin crashes pretty regular lately
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: thought about installing the gnu flash plugin instead
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: More headache
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: there's a third alternative altho the name eludes me atm
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Abstinence from youtube
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: my adobe seems to crash more when i have say 7-10 tabs versus just 1-3 or so
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think flash and firefox 4 are generally flaky on linux, the plugin dies consistently here on slackware, I've gone back to using 3.6.16
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: maybe jnothing to it
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Actually, no issues with youtube, just umm, a specific other site atm.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: stay away from the youporn man
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: redtube :P
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think I know the kind of site...I've seen similar problems...not on my pc though, honest :)
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Apparently it's a wide known issue because the instant i said that my flist asked if that's the site i was talking about.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: i know mine has crashed a lot on youtube and imdb
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: will sudo tar cvpzf /pathTohomebackup /home backup the entire profile?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: my tar-fu is not so strong
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what do you mean "entire profile"? you referring to .profile?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: more like my entire home directory
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Should
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: tar cvf myfile.tar $HOME should work
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: about to do a full install of ubuntu, been running on a wubi install with windows deleted for a while now lol
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: sweet, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: then sudo tar xvpfz /myfile.tar -C /home should restore it to the new install
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straxxus Tech: if i read the man file right
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filst Tech: anyone have exp using playonmac?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Is there any reason why a cexit that looks like "open ;" is not used by the new Mushclient when going to a room?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "new" mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you have the latest version?
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: V4.72 from Aard's website.
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: latest as in, not from aard's website
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decimator Tech: Ah
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's not new enough...the priority was changed in a development release
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, your cexit of "op e ; e" is 1 room away, but just going "e" is also 1 room away
T3/r3/2011-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so finger fiendish, go to his site, click mushclient, click downloads & use that r397 snapshot :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Is there any way to forget spells on the mushclient spellup plugin? (I already know about forgetskill, which this plugin bypasses)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type spellup help
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Exactly what I was looking for, thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hezek Tech: My ZMud paths, aliases, etc. aren't working. Is there an easy way to reset them or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient r414 snapshot is available on the dev site
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do i change the command stack character for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: alt-0
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: hmm, how do i store a custom exit of open north and then walk north? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: mushclient mapper that is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: is there a way to specify a strict case match - no more/no less than what i entered into mapper area/find? e.g. mapper find cell -> currently returning rooms like 'dank cell' 'dark cell' 'cell' etc, where i only want rooms which are strictly just called 'cell'
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud's mapper does that automatically
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: referring to mush mapper* :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: simple question,how would you open mushclient after its downloaded?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Double click MUSHclient.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: uhm,it gets saved as a zip file,how do i go from there?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unzip it? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Oh, yeah - right click it and you should see the item "Extract Here"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gaotu Tech: extract all files to a directory of your choosing.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: hmm,takes a hour to download
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you must have a terrible internet connection then...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: yeah,downloads at 2.3kb/sec
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Sounds like dial-up
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: wireless actualy
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Maybe you're somewhere where your carrier has to "outsource" the service :(
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: anyone know where to get metabot rom for gameboy advanced?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: in default mush, is there a command to force reloading the stats window?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type protocols gmcp sendchar
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: great, ty
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not client-specific, is a MUD command telling the MUD to send all character info via GMCP, which is where the stats miniwindow gets the info
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mardus Tech: any good vba knowers here?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: whats a .ogg file?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vorbis sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: lossless sound file
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: a file extension for music files, ogg vorbis
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: Ooooo lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.vorbis.com/faq/#what
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's not lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It's not?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: someone said it, not me
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Are you looking at Linux file extenions?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I figured anything digital is lossful
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc starts being unhelpful and citing helpfiles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Damacius: also not true
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Don't worry Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: helpfiels outside the mud are always fun
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, opposite of true, really...analog is always lossy, digigal can be lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: to within, say, fundamental limits
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I thnk u may be mistaken
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog is true lossless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so such a file wouldnt be needed to run whatever i was running if i didnt mind not hearing it?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You shake your head.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you saying analog is trash, digital is it, I find Analog is supieor to digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cant get any more lossless than a old vinyl record
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, analog has no technology for accurate reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: therefore, lossful
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: ur exactly right, you cant reproduce analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: not in digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Throw that record, hard, into a wall -- look, it lost quality
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the problem is more that you can't reproduce analog in analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I rather have analog then digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take the vinyl, copy it to another and you lost fidelity and gained errors...take a CD, copy it to another and you have an identical copy with no loss
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no true
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abel Tech: lossful and lossless are based on data transfer quality, not audio preference
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes true
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can you morph it, and unmorph it, without a change
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I would say get better gear to transfer.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you would say, but you'd be wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better gear can minimize the loss
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i like being wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cannot eliminate it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the whole reason that dolby made so much money...analog media's limitations
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No, you need to research better Abestupid
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish coughs loudly.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: man that made me laugh out loud
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to not attack, and research can only show what exists...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: There is no player with that name.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: analog in theory is more accurate...analog in today's technology is not
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Now You know why I call you ABESTUPID.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Saatai: you're wrong. that's ok. personal attacks are not.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and pretty much any advancements in technology will benefit both analog and digital storage and reproduction, so digital will likely be more advanced for the forseeable future
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: maybe if i ask a different question it will start a different argument
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gofer it, cide :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i find it entertaining
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: when i think of one ill try it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: It's not an attack Fiendish, just my personal opinion of the idiot.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would be the third attack...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: calling someone an idiot is a personal attack...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: referring to someone as stupid IS a personal attack.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's too bad that you're wrong, then, Saatai.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: Stop now!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how many times have you been told this, saatai?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: and abelinc is obnoxious, but he's not an idiot :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic ducks defensively.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i like obnoxious people :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that sounds very familiar...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic grins evilly at Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well thats your opinion.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: My opinion is mine.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stating said opinion is still illegal...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsogswrH6ck
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: it's also the opinion of the people who run the place, of course, if you wish to continue until forcibly silenced that's your prerogative
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont like being forcibly silenced
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: am I stopping him from rambling on?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: no, but calling names is against the rules
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Calling him names, when he done proved?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Do you just not understand the concept of a personal attack? It's a verbal (typed, whatever) attack upon one's person...like calling them stupid.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: whether or not it's true, calling him names is STILL against the rules.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well I apologize to Abelinc then, tell him to shut up and research better.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how can I research better than knowing the current state of the technology?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Is your time machine still broken? I sent you those parts last week...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Abelinc you don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: erikson, you should say 'next week' :D
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: that's easy. just add "Neo" to the front of everything, abe.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: No, next week I send them two weeks ago :p
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Will send. Will have sent. Willen of-senden.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so, next week, they'll be a week late....
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am sorry he makes himself look this way, not an attack, but technology changes so fast.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: Drop it now please.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I've gotta stop making myself look correct and knowledgeable :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a hard habit to break, though
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and about analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No you make yourself think you know all, when your way behind.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog has waves that dont stagger
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its a "true" sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: They do if you get 'em really drunk.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: digital is only one fraction of that wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, the discussion was not about analog. it was about analog reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: however, digital sound reproduction is a true sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: one little milisecond of a true sound wave... one digit at a time
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not Abelinc, it's not a wave.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Say what you will, I've sliced my finger open, and it won't stop bleeding
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog to digital would be an infinite amount of data
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: If your digital sampling is at 1kHz, you've got a pretty sad ADC ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it is, saatai...it just does not cover all possible sine waves
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: OoooOOooo...you could star in the new workplace safety video: "Blood on the keyboard"...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not, it's bits and pieces where analog covers it all.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: exactly... you can copy it to whatever refresh rate, or hertz... but youll never get every nanosecond of sound into that digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Not really. Since the universe is fundamentally digital, analog representation is at best an analogy to what's really happening anyway...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: It is a sine and possible cosine waves. That is a true statement.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: universe isnt digital, it's analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, nor will you in analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Max Planck might disagree with you.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the universe is quantized. that means it isn't analog.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yes u will because analog is true form of sound, or light
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it's a true wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, too bad you added light
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yeah, it's pretty disgusting. I've got blood coagulating on my F,G,T,R and B keys. Oh, and V too.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the discussion was not on theory, it was on applied...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: (not that you need to get near the planck scale to hit the limits of what can be said to be 'analog' about sound waves... just get to angstroms and you're already at the wall)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: See, if you used Dvorak you wouldn't have that problem :p
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: when the analog revolution comes you'll all be up against the wall
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ok, let me ask this question, digital is 1 or 0, where as analog can be -0.1 to + -.1,
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ....'cause the dvorak keyboard repels blood?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saatai, nope
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Saatai: no, that's stupid
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog is not digits at all
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Some of them. But it wouldn't be on the same keys at least.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Apparently, Tye...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thats why its infinite
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: It's not the blood on the keyboard that's so bad, it's the blood in the cole slaw.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cause even .1 is digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: It's not the blood on the keyboard that's so bad. It's the crotch the blood came from.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am say maybe I am stupid so educate me.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Syntax?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I know analog is supieror to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it just cannot be reproduced accurately
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you believe, erroneously, that analog is superior to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: sound is composed of tiny particles called soundicles.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak claps at Fiendish's performance.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it is... period...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in an ideal world, if we could record and reproduce without error, THEN analog would be superior to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its not up for debate, it's a fact
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Thargar: I think I got a pair of those for my dog after I got him fixed.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and look at this link to learn why http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sjmxrHygBno/Rx0HCwlnTPI/AAAAAAAAAfA/IJGpQhzlueQ/s400/analog%2Bdigital.gif&imgrefurl=http://shoelessandbibleblack.blogspot.com/2007/10/analog-vs-digital-circuitry-which-is.html&usg=__ww_nshaTTy4J6WwhLcAlH1kWuJc=&h=395&w=358&sz=6&hl=en&start=2&sig2=OehDTFvM8F1vZuQjiLUDTw&zoom=1&tbnid=Y_epNe48Tytq1M:&tbnh=124&tbnw=112&ei=zRmZTZu4HK-10QG9uJH1Cw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcompare%2Banalog%2Bto%2Bdigital%2Bsound%2Bwave%2Bpic%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D632%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius: the only analog that is superior to original is being there as it is happening.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nice link
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: omg tinyurl
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Also, no.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, a blogspot post to refute
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: there are different soundicles for every note in the chromatic scale.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: the only thing analog is better is for guitar amps
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no, like old film type photography is always going to be better than digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morinon nods at Jek.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: in an ideal world we'd remember everything the first time and never need a second take
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Analog is only better right as something is happening, and not to record, but to amplify.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: amps would be in analog anyways
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Abelinc: I take issue with that. In a perfect world, with perfect mechanism and perfect playback, analog would perhaps be more compact, but not better
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: analog is pure form
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: read that as "second cake" and thought "who doesn't want second cake?"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes Fiendish I think analog is best for musical repo
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: there are digital amps....
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: hmm this conversation is still going on :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Saatai: but you're wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: i wouldnt want a digital amp
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, don't let philosophy get in the way of empirical evidence.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, analog reproduced is not the pure form
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: they make digital amps that sound exactly like analog amps :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no it's a computer sciences degree from purdue, not philosophy
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether you think that it sounds better is a different statement than it being more accurate
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I said is my opinion yes
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Jek: I kind of doubt that
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I personally like Vinyl over CDs for music. To me, it is better quality.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Any amp is digital anyway, since you can't pass a fraction of an electron.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: take a computer science course and ask your professor
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, what you are arguing is from a philosophical point of view, which, while I agree in principle, I disagree when the facts are against it.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: tube amps are special not because they produce sound accurately but because they produce sound wildly inaccurately
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: I promise you fiendish, there are digital amps that reproduce the sound of authentic analog amps ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Raistlin is agreeing with that Fiendish person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: i love my tube amp
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Jek: maybe at a dollar level that I don't have access to
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: ive tried digital amps but they seem too dry for me
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it's a fact, not an opinion... im just trying to enlighten, you dont have to take it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: digital amps lack 'response' but they do sound the same
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: oh they dont
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: No, Damacius, calling your opinion a fact does not make it so.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the magical appeal of tube amps is not that they make more correct sound, but that they make horrible bad sound in very interesting ways
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Let me ask this question, when was the last time you went to your favorite band and listened to there show.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you dont notice the minor difference in sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: currently, in recording video and and audio at a consumer level, analog is far superior than digital (especially in music, since analog loses far less detail than digital)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: o yes, the best I've found is the axe fx, which is a 1500 dollar preamp
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: if it's high enough sampling, you wont notice a dif really
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Yeah, that's why every studio masters in analog for the last 10 years.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: but it's not the same
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, this has become debate channel.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so has gossip!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's all following Cide! Get him!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: fiendish: I love tube amps, wouldn't ever buy a digital, but there are digital amps that sound the same (although don't respond the same) as tube amps
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: but jek there is no way to duplicate the warm sound that a nice set of elj tubes in combo with a axe with some good passive pickups
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Turie love any channel can become a debate.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Could we move this to debate about the comparison of Digital and Analog?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: currently, CD music sounds like harsh noise compared to vinyl/cassette analog AAA music
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the issue, raistlin..."warm sound" is a distortion
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: There are a huge number of current albums that sound way better on vinyl than on CD, but that's not because the vinyl has better reproduction, it's because the vinyl is so bad they can't get away with compressing the life out of it in mastering.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: like a dimarzio x2n bridge paf joe neck comba
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a pleasing distortion, but a distortion nonetheless
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hezek Tech: I turned off gossip because of this, now I have to turn off tech too. But before I go, how do you all think Obama is doing? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: seriously, until you've heard an axe fx through a nice power amp you can't argue this :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thats why when u rip a cd, if you make the sampling rate, or hertz low, it sounds real blahh
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Hezek: arab terrorist nigerian?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or was it kenyan?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: kenyan
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: guess im just a bit of a purist in what i play through
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: If you rip a CD at anything other than 44.1/16, you deserve whatever idiocy you wind up with.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: raistlin, you're the opposite of a purist :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: digital has gaps that let soundicles fall through. because an analog wave is continuous the soundicles are trapped.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: haha hows that abe
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because you're preferring more distortion :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: It's greener that way though. You can recycle the soundicles that wind up in the equipment; once they get out the speaker they're lost forever.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: exactly tharger
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: look at this picture http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sjmxrHygBno/Rx0HCwlnTPI/AAAAAAAAAfA/IJGpQhzlueQ/s1600-h/analog+digital.gif
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: that is EXACTLY why analog is much more superior than digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too bad the picture is a lie :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: Abelinc!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I like how you demonstrate it using a digital image, too.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I hate to turn tech off, but this is getting ridiculous.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not referring to sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yea, right
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: even that line on the top image is not a true curved line...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: BECAUSE, it's digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at least know what picture you're posting before using it to make a point about a totally different piece of technology
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Because one piece of digital tech cannot reproduce a perfect circle does not mean another cannot.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its exactly what were talkin about
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope damacius
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: that's the point
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it cnanot
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I dropped out this debate and will just listen.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Hell, a perfect circle is easy to reproduce.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that picture is not analog vs digital sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: properly recorded analog music on analog tape transferred nondigitally to analog vinyl transferred nondigitally to analog tape/cassette provides far more fine detail and a superior sound compared to digitised reproductions (at a consumer level)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what picture?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: monster cables are made with a special flavor that soundicles can't resist.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yes it is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Analog vinyl is a _terrible_ reproduction device.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Xyliz: I disagree
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it isn't
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: 1/4" tape is _much_ better.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless somehow sound is measured in volts
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: analog tape to analyg to tape will give you a shit result
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: how is that not a picture of a analog sound wave vs a digital?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so all this came from me asking what a .ogg file is? ;P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: thats exactly what it is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: s/analyg/vinyl
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Yeah, Cide, sorry.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Saatai: It is a simile.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope damacius, it isn't
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Sorry Cide, you started all this.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you've failed the basic comprehension of understanding your own picture
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I think i did by calling .ogg 'lossless', actually.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or would you care to 'shop the picture and repost?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: No, Cide, you just gave certain zealots reason to spread their mistaken views.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no need to shop... anyone with any intelligence understands, im sure
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Fiendish, even if (as you say) "Analog vinyl is a _terrible_ reproduction device", nevertheless, analog_vinyl is *vastly superior* to a CD version on that original music
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: there is no help ogg?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I'm a zealot?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im a zealot
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yup, analog has ALL the sound
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Xyliz, my CD can keep its data a lot longer than your vinyl.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: damacius, there is no sound represented in that picture
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: cd only has digits of sound every 100th of a second
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyone with intelligence would recognize that :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: do you know what a sound wave is?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, and that isn't one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: I dont think you do
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, I am very familiar with waves, being a physicist.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: well how can you debate whem someone says no 2+2 isnt 4?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and that leaves you out then.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has the same waveform as one, but that picture is not of one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: Bazinga!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: I am also very familiar with limits of reproduction.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: it actually is
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: 2+2=fish
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't, it just looks like one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if any human is unable to discern that analog music is superior to digital music, then they are defective in hearing and or music appreciation and or logic
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: I do not doubt that there are some very high-fidelity analog reproductions of sound.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: tech the picture's caption is "Look at an analog soundwave compared to a digital soundwave."
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and just by looking at it, you should know
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I like the sound of idiots
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I dunno why you guys are bothering to argue at this point. It's on blogspot, it MUST be true.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius, are you familiar with infinite limits?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: if its on the internet, it must be true!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not the picture you posted, no...and by looking at it, you should know that there are no VOLTS in sound waves
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: The intarwebz has the inability to lie!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: no I learned it in CS101... it's like elementary of computer science
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: That's just saying the difference between an AC and a DAC attempting to reproduce AC.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: There is if Alessandro Volta is playing piano.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: they teach it in day one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: purdue has gone WAAAAY downhill then
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you're pretty clueless about it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what do you know of Purdue?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the difference between the analog soundwaves and the digital soundwaves of the originl music is actually "noise"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: you guys make me feel dumb, thanks for ruining my mud experience
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Digital.signal.svg
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Xyliz: and how much noise is produce by an analog recording?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: produced, that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Wikipedia is never a valid 'source' for a statement.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: .01 percent
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody here is debating that the act of converting a given sound into digital is a lossy process
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That doesn't count. It's GOOD noise, 'cuz it's "warm". Way better.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: I guarantee you there is more noise produced in taking one analog to another analog than one digital to another digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Damacius, which side are you debating here: pro-analog or pro-noisy-digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what is being debated is, (1) once that conversion is done, no more loss ever needs to transpire, regardless of generations, and (2) FAR more loss (and distortion gains) take place by not translating to digital
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Damacius is arguing from a limit of perfect reproduceability.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Which we do not have.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I'll debate on the side of whichever side is arguing against Xyliz, considering they usually aren't correct, and throw in useless information that has no relation to the subject (Read: talking to read themselves speak)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic rolls on the floor laughing at Cheezburger's antics!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: lol oot
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez, then you'd be arguing against xyliz, saatai and damacius :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Perfect reproduceability would be awesome though. I want Elizabeth Taylor back :(
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I am saying is Analog is far more better then digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: good lord why :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm..
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I figure sooner or later it'll be my turn to marry her.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Apparently i had a substitute going on i didn't notice
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: Mmmmm, analog......
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Egrene Tech: you mean there's no 'read help digital vs analog'?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the intelligent human mind with decent ears is able to process out noise and reproduce (most of) the original music from repeated listenings of AAA analog music
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: far more better, maybe...more accurate when reproduced, NOPE
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: yes xyliz
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: superb argumentation technique, just claim that anyone who disagrees must be unintelligent
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: The intelligent human mind is also able to reproduce the original music from reading the score. Which takes even less storage space.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: majic: http://static.technorati.com/11/03/24/29985/Elizabeth-Taylor-402355.jpg
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you wont notice the diffrence really
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think I started a war on analog and digital.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: erikson: in fact the intelligent human mind takes up more space than an mp3
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: its minor minor, but dof
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: my mind is an mp3
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so now we went from "there is no difference" to "you won't notice the difference really"...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two very different statements
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the intelligent human mind with decent ears is unable to reproduce much of the original music from repeated listenings of digital music
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Sure, but there's only, what, maybe a half dozen in the world? So it averages out...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: you wont notice the diference, but it's different
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: good songs, you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and continues to be "more different" with every reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: we have a winner!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: well you can reproduce 24kz to 24kz without loss
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: There's only one good song. It just has a lot of verses.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you can
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: because the data was lost in the first place
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: when it went from the mic into a computer
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: what if no computer was involved
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i have a cassette recorder
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: then it's analog
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Then it's not analog to digital :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: and is "true" sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: oh i thought Abe already won that debate,
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: he did.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Sure it is. I have a team of 2^16 elves, each of which is progressively more deaf than the prior one. When each hears a sound, he carves a little tiny hole in a CD...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: They won't stop arguing it
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just not an ACCURATE reproduced sound wave
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: damnit, that sounds like pratchett's iconography :D
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Damacius Tech: right, it's not a FULL reproduction
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: I vote Abe works for Homeland Security or DOJ or some shit
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: he knows too much not to be on our side
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That's your side?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I think he's a soviet spy
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, good question, erik!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: that was my side before Obama :)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: now lets debate that one
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: My side sure as hell doesn't involve the federal gov't :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I were a soviet spy, I'd be a lot more snuggly with saatai baby :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: bah, it's an act to make us believe you're not
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: My, erm, *coughcollectioncough*, isn't on the FBI's "Cool stuff, guy" list.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nobody said you were a 'good' spy, or even loyal ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: shesh "help spy"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: soooo between .png and .tif?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald chuckles politely.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiff if you care about metadata, png to throw up on a website or something
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: erm i mean between SLR and dSLR
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: PPM!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: emacs!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bloated OS if ever I saw one :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: OK, now that's just going too far. We can't use that kind of language on public channels.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Mmm, emacs.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: vim!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pico ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Erikson gacks, and looks your way, dismayed.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those UW guys are geniuses
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: vim is great if you want a good program for making your computer beep
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Abelinc, being a UW guy, I agre.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: haha
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm just going to say that I do all coding for the aardwolf mushclient package in gedit.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ew...a gui editor?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i do mine in payments :) I win!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a gui editor seems appropriate for a gui client
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: I make a payment, the script appears
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Morinon nods at Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nowadays I do most text editing in Editpad Pro, but that's just cuz I'm not usually sitting at a computer that can run BBEdit :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I wish people would make payments to me
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: do some tt++ and I will
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: linus Fiendish?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I tried asking crixus for 10 tps or $50 to make some silly change for her, but she tried to bargain me down to 2 tp. I wouldn't have any of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: I know payments would be great but thank you for what you do
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I have managed to get everyting but the status area working in mudlet so far. Am I missing a config option to get it working?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: let me restate that. I have managed to get everyting but the status area working in mudlet with the provided MAG scripts so far. Am I missing a config option to get it working?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: while I appreciate client competition, I really don't understand why anyone without a particular interest in a CLI uses anything other than mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's the I for in CLI?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: interface
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: as opposed to GUI
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: well, I use zmud because I'm too lazy to run setup and too used to the settings I have now
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but why mudlet?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, there's no setup to run for mushclient }:>
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I understand people who use zmud because they have an investment in it already
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's fine
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: because I want to play the game not the client?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't understand using mudlet or atlantis or anything like that
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient doesn't change that...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient just already works for the stuff that you're struggling to get working in mudlet ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Because I like my client, and i don't like mush? Seems like a good reason for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mushclient is full of enablers who want to farm leeches. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheez, read again what fiendish wrote...you don't qualify
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish laughs out loud at Dokkar.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oh.. i misread
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So basically anyone not on tt++ and tf should use mush? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless they have a years-long vested interest, I agree
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: TBH, i'd have to agree too
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it "just works" out of the box, it's actively supported, and you'll be able to get tons of help with it readily
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: the last time I looked at mush client. some time ago I admit. it was very user unfriendly. has that changed?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Although, some other clients interface with the OS (not even talking on CLI here) better than mush
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Nadir: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/screenshots.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mushclient is superbly suited for quickstart-edness, from the perspective of the knows-nothing newb.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: for actual working-environment, it still lags behind compared to CMud even though on average both systems have the same capabilities.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: cmud doesn't have the same capabilities as far as i can tell
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: as mush? Very much so. Obvious differences relative to each side's implementation, but otherwise they could be written by the same person.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud's still got the advantage in maturity of mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: until there's path costs in mush, anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a fleeting difference, and honestly not all that big of one.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: cmud technically only has the advantage that I'm not willing to add certain things to the mapper for political reasons :\
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: such as?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but free and prepackaged with scripts are pretty nice plusses
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and in fact I would say that on balance the base clients follow the opposite pattern of what you suggest. cmud is easier to get started with than raw mushclient, but lags in potential
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which is where the aardwolf client package comes in
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it skips the step of "getting started"
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the only things in the mapper are name, description, number, a couple notes fields, and stuff geared more towards drawing-customizations
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: people frequently ask me to add things to the mushclient mapper that I am hesitant to add because it pushes the line further into botting territory
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's a whole suite of interface functions to work with all that stuff, and just from watching conversations on tech and the forums it's pretty obvious that the mush mapper can match all of that.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but that says absolutely nothing of the client itself
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this is a plugin, extensible and changable in a way that cmud never will be
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: (and fixable)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: does gmcp in cmud even work properly yet? last I heard the answer was no
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, the last thing that was thought to be a cmud issue was really an aard issue
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in that the aard code was truncating the output of large groups
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: gmcp's always worked fine for me...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: GMCP works wonderfully in CMud. The problems that exist have to do with matching that functionality to everything else so that features don't interfere with each other.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: case in point: slow walking. Something about how CMud detects GMCP interferes with slow mode such that speedwalks end early instead of getting hung up waiting for something that's never coming.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: slow mode is a cmud mode thing?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's it used for?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the intended use of slow mode is for automated short-range movement that things like bots and room scripts might do.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hurray for bots
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: for long, crossworld walks, fast mode (send all directions first, who cares if you actually get there) and safe mode (send all directions first, check to make sure each move is successful) are the recommended modes.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: basically, slow mode is for one-step-at-a-time, verified movement
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: hmm this mushclient actually looks like it could do the trick. Thanks for the suggestion. though changing anything in the client itself still seems hard to work with as before.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing anything in the client, such as?
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish wants his mud client to show everything in hot pink!
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: learning how to tweek it so that the main window isn't so busy for starters. I love the way it's all set up so far. But I actually like to read the info in the rooms and such.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the reason that this slow mode/GMCP thing is such an issue is because slow mode happens to also be the mode that one can control speedwalking--such as pausing it to deal with aggros or to change the path in the middle of a walk.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reading info on the rooms would be your "brief" setting on the MUD
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean botting
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now now, fiendish, yours has a "resume" function as well :P
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: no sir. I don't bot.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: with all the info comoing into the main window, nothing the text move too fast.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: dokkar, with gmcp that really isn't a problem in other modes
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not talking to you, nadir
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Nadir: i didn't mean you
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just trigger on the run interrupted line when you get aggroed to look, and gmcp updates your position
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nadir: you can limit what text goes to the main window. you can, for example, remove all channel stuff and have it only go to the channel capture window
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you right-click on the channel capture, you'll see an option to not echo it to main
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: GMCP doesn't do anything with the directions, though, so you helplessly watch as the rest of the path after that interruption happens (it's already been sent to the game, so the only way to stop it is to disco)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, i only send one run to the mud...
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcp doesn't need to do anything with the directions...them being sent to the game doesn't need to matter
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: that is fabulous! Someone has put alot of effort into this.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you told it that you wanted to go to room xyz...when you do a look, you see that you're in room abc
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i have a function that converts the cmud paths to a mud run command
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the directions themselves don't matter either. My speedwalking logic lets cmud figure out how to get to the destination, so all I have to do is pick where I want to go.
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: nod, mine too
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: except instead of using #walk, i use unformat(%walk)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: except instead of using #walk, i use @runformat(%walk)
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: so instead of cmud sending n, n, n, n all as separate commands, i send run 4n
T3/r3/2011-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: then if i get aggroed on the way, no extra commands are being send while you're in combat
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: if im missing my drag bar in the lower right hand corner of my mush client's screen is there anyway to get it back? i think i was in a higher reso screen and stretched it too far
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I got mine back by changing my resolution and finding it and dragging it back O.o and then chagning the resolution again
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: if im missing my drag bar in the lower right hand corner of my mush client's screen is there anyway to get it back? i think i was in a higher reso screen and stretched it too far
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: ah ok
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I did that because no one was awake to help me :| Silly americans
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yeah i am already in my max reso
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Then I suppose you'll have to wait for someone who knows what they are talking about :|
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: guess i could move this over to my desktop and resize it, so much work
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: {stats}140/87,129/87,150/87,123/82,123/87,150/87,100,46,63,406,513,You are Standing.,9999,2599/2599,888/1908,1146/1818,3697492,888,16,2500,5835,58,5
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: anyone know what tag that is?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: just finished god of war in 1 day
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what is that?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: an xbox game
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ok, try the gametalk channel
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: how to block someone in facebook
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: Anyone able to answer a hopefully easy Aardwolf Client issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: maybe
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: easier if you ask your question
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: in the older version, when using the help command, it would pop up a new window...now it goes to my main play window...is there an easy way to change this?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: sorry, cant help you there....i never used the older version....i imagine you could catch the help text into another window from a trigger...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a miniwin_help plugin that will work like that
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: but you may be just able to download a script for it.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: there you go, get one from Bast.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: O.o You rock fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: thanks Bast, I found, downloaded and am using your miniwin_help successfully.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Okay O.o So. I need some technical help here. With: rewearing the object in my off-hand that was there before using the alias for a portal.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I had one that was for the dualled weapons, but I want to change that to everything
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: I just reinstalled mush client and tried adding a custom exit in the mapper. unfortunately it doesnt work because of the colons that separate the commands in the speedwalk. How can I fix this?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: I've had the same problem Jerome. The only workaround I could figure out was creating an alias to do the same thing, and mapping the custom exit to that
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: use ;;;;
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: (no, i'm not joking)
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Just two is fine ;
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: it is in the aardwolf GMCP mapper, I cannot find the part where the colon is inserted.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no armenia, you need four to add a semi-colon to a mapper custom exit
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: ah. so in the mapper custom exit when I create it, i type ;;;bucket for instance (tinker guild, 4s of recall)?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: instead of bucket, that is?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, if the command is just bucket you don't need semi-colons at all...that's just for stacking commands
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: but the problem is that when i want to run to a part behind the custom exit, the mud responds with that there are incorrect directions; the colon is not replaced with a new command line
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: You broke it!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did "mapper cexit bucket" went up from there after cexit was added, then ran someplace and did "mapper goto 32620" and went there
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: mapper find tinker (I am 5s of recall, then click on one: mud response: run n;bucket
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: and then: Invalid directions in command.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: so for me, the colon is not interpreted
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: hmm, looks like it's not expanding the semi-colons...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do you have command stacking off? try just n;s on your command line
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: doesnt work either, but how can I turn that on?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Game->Configure->Commands
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make sure command stack using ; shows there
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and is checked
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: ah! indeed, there was no mark before command stack using! didnt notice, thanks a lot!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Bast is so smart :|
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: thanks all! it works now!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: command stacking is on by default
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in my version
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think like...pre-2001, it wasn't. But, yeah.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: also, r414 and later are able to use other command stack chars than the semicolon
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: (and also include bigmap finally)
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: Having a problem installing to mush gmcp mapper (http://pastebin.com/ybS06GSJ) any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're didn't update aardmapper.lua
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: I downloaded the mush from the aardwolf wiki pages, that worked fine.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: updating piecemeal is bound to give problems. plugins frequently rely on other files that you forget about. it's best to follow the instructions for updating from the Aardwolf.com download page
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: that worked, thanks fiendish.And your right about piecemeal bit but hey some ppl just want to be idiots =)
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: especially since I sometimes make changes that are not specifically in a plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: also, just a head's up...if you're taking the gmcp mapper from a new snapshot I hope you're also taking the graphical bigmap plugin too
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Hmm, is there a plugin for mushclient that searches all items in a container and spits out their stats/enchants into a file?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: uhh...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not that I know of
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: ah, ok!
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: just checking before I do it manually
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: ugh what is the name of that mud client where *everything* is written in a scripted language, isn't mush...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of 'em :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: err I think its all in Lua (sorry, I know zmud qualifies, smartass) :p
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you thinking of Cmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mudlet may primarily use lua
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: mudlet, thats it, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmud allows lua, it isn't primarily lua
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: how do i see the vnum for items i am carrying if i don't know their keywords?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invdata
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see help invdata
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks...could not remember the command
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is technically the serial number, not the vnum
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vnum is identical for 10 instances of a potion, but serial is individual to each
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there anything special I need to copy across when upgrading mushclient to get basts spellups plugin to work? I got an error, and now all my spellup data is gone
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chekhu Tech: Do any of you folks use vipmud, and if so, can you tell me how I can use mccp?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if a client doesn't support mccp natively, then you can run a mccp proxy...but really, there are plenty of available, free MUD clients which have active users prepackaging scripts for Aard
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starphoenix Tech: man...i can't remember how to get MUSHclient to load with my world settings from a shortcut again... meh
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try setting the start location in the shortcut?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: anyone know if its worth it to ttry to repair a ac adapter myself?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: do you like house fires?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Depends, can you do it successfully? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: dunno never tried :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: considering the price of most of those things....no
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i was just trying to save $50 :P
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: last one i bought off of ebay fried
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: within a week...
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ebay, there's you problem
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: 50 dollar ac adapter?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thats the price for the one i needed is
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jek Tech: what is it for?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: how do i set tt++ to read a session file by default on ubuntu
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: got everything working, but id like it to #read my file by default
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: Cheezse i ned your help
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: what the different between Iphone and SmartPhone?
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lashan Tech: An iPhone is a particular brand/model of smartphone
T3/r3/2011-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lashan Tech: so
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: are the instinct commands live now?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: 'instinct' 'Sorry Jhav, I don't understand you.'
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm going to say no.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: any idea when?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Riiiiiiiiiiiight....NOW!
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav gasps in astonishment.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: yaaa, fiendish is always right to
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: wish i had an instinct
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: just so you all know its a horrible idea to try to fix a charger for a laptop if you dont know what you are doing...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: duh
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: to answer my question from a few hours ago
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: duh
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: if you think it's finished, you might be able to sell the silver wire for scrap! :D
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: pennies
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: notz
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and probably illegal in many places as well
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: selling silver?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: selling wire is perfectly legal here
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: buncha techies i guess :P
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: 4090mbs translates into about 4gb?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: about
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thought so thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: 4096 Mb = 4G :)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: guys of tech! im on winxp and i have a 6btn mouse. there's a totally useless button that adjusts the sensitivity of the mouse. i want to remap it to something else. xmouse only does 5buttons! i need something else. suggestions? inb4 google
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: anyone know what I should do if I want to say map ctrl-up to north using muschclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you need to read this: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?function=Accelerator
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: so where exactly do I enter that in:P
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: im a total programming newb
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: stick it at the bottom of a plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: got a wierd problem that ive had both on cmud and mush wonder if anyone else has too it seems that after some runs my numlock gets turned off anyone else have this happen
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alhena Tech: can anyone explain a very basic gmcp trig please ? Stuck on pattern / Using CMud
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a gmcp trigger, it looks like you say new trigger, use trigger type gmcp, and put the pattern as the first 2 "parts" of the GMCP...such as room.info, comm.quest, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then in the action part, you can access any of the variables that are within that section of gmcp, such as %comm.quest.targ and %comm.quest.room
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see the hierarchy of gmcp variables on the gmcp page of the wiki
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, I was wrong on the variable syntax...it would be %gmcp.comm.quest.targ and %gmcp.comm.quest.room
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: is there a inv mini window pluggin?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: name? or where i can find it?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two separate ones are http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8936 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9522
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: places to look for mushclient plugins: (1) start with the latest aardmush package, (2) check out bast's plugins folder, (3) help www, look at the comli site, and (4) http://www.mushclient.com/search.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: nice, finally set up my file server/seedbox
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: headless dell gx280, passive cooling. running samba, apache, sshd and deluged+deluge-web for torrents
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: dyndns + forwarded ports and i can access it from anywhere :>
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: I've just got one of these -- http://www.aleutia.com/products/t1
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: next up -- http://trimslice.com -- linux on an arm box, dual head capable, running at 3W power consumption
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: nice
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: don't have the buck to buy a micro-pc atm
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: so the dell will have to do for now
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swire Tech: well, the t1 was 250 quid -- cheap and small
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: Pquaffer plugin crashes and exits mush when running the 'pots' command in r421. Hmm, back to the think tank.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so no error message?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: Sorry, I'm at work and didn't catch the replys. No error message, but I'll dive into it further when I get free from work.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: is there no decent freeware irc client for windows?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: why not use shareware - mIRC
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: can i remove chats from my nain window
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: try chats echo off
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apocolyte, right-click the chats capture
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: im going to be here often,just got the client
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: where do you get the script for calculating time till hour double?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: type gamestat 5. there are a few thousand mobs killed per hour
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you wait for some poor sap to paste it on a channel and you send him tells
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: don't really need a script, just take a "average amount killed per hour" and apply. pretty easy math to do, or an easy script to write oneself!
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: anyway to make my computer make a sound when a gq/quest isavailable?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Using what client?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Only through your client of choice...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: Mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Tech channel could probably give a step-by-step in 1/2 a sec lol
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: How do you turn on mccp compression on zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: In 7.21 it should turn itself on automatically
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Hrm, mine isn't on.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: Sometimes it can glitch though, so you might try closing and reopening zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: unless Aardwolf is improperly negotiating telnet options (or if something interferes during the process, such as losing connection), you just log in.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Reconnected, its still not on.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: if not there is something in options I think, but I can't remember for certain. It's been awhile
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Yeah, I remember there was a compression option. I can't find it atm.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Found it, its under Emulation in General tab.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is it possible to turn off battle prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just type "bprompt"
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: cool thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: if I have a trigger in mush to recast a disrupt which fails, and it works the first time, but disrupt fails again the trigger isn't kicking in, how come
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that was ambiguous, requires rereading several times to remove the ambiguities - bleh
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: life is ambiguous
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: illiteracy is ambiguous and as a result incoherent
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I don't think this is helping me?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i would guess that your trigger is broken, or you have some form of state attached to it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: well I just made it, so I am not sure what is broken about it... it just has one wildcard and recasts disrupt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: what is the pattern?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: You need to be more disruptive. The * is still there!
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: cast 'disrupt' '%1'
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: that is all I did
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that looks pretty bad
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: if by bad you mean simple.... what is bad about it?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: that works on a successful failed cast, but not if the spell itself fails.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the spell fails, is there a different message
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: what I put is the spell failing, not losing concentration
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it seems to work if it's on a blank line... if it gets sent after my hp/mana/mv prompt it doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put a %c at the end of both your prompt and bprompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: add a new line to your prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: so I guess I just need to ignore the new line
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Ralyn: do you use any of my plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use %c
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I use the Aard mush version
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: use %c at the end of the prompt, with compact on (in config)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to toggle compact, type Compact
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with Compact (= Yes), a lot more fits on the screen at once, and the prompt/bprompt ending with %c avoids a lot of trigger difficulties (at least in zmud)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: putting %c at the end of my trigger doesn't seem to do anything
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the %c goes on the end of your PROMPT command
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I got it, I just set up another trigger with a wildcard before
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: %c permits all zmud triggers to start with ~^ and that permits faster trigger processing
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it'd just be ^. Using ~^ would tell ZMud to look for the carat character instead of looking at the beginning of the line.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: %c is a mud-side addition to the prompt not to the trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: mapper takes you to the room you clicked,how do the up exits work with this?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not sure whether Aardmush plugins permits changes to the standard prompt bprompt
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: which mapper, Apo?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Xyliz, you need to learn to read before you respond, because your inane chatter, incoherent at time, is really obnoxious. You're not reading what people are saying, but you're correcting them on things that 1) you're wrong about and 2) they're right about.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: if only it were on analogue tape
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, actually, Xyliz was only wrong about the tilde.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Apocolyte Tech: the one in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: he's also talking about zmud for some reason :P
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie hands Cheezburger some Philly Steak to make him into a PhillySteak Cheezburger.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: the person asking the question is using mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Exactly
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Darn it. Mis.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if an Aardmush plugins wants to see a specific prompt bprompt output coming from the mud, then ... so ool
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Who the hell said that? You're just being rediculous
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not really, you just have a lot of hard-to-read notepad to look through to change it.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's not like the plugin code is encrypted or anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tildes are required so that zmud does not attempt to process and remove some special characters in chat lines
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You could obfuscate it, if you really wanted to.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ^ ~^
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: again xyliz, you're the only person talking about zmud...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but you're wrong about the ^
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: there should be no tilde
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hence the hard-to-read part
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: % was preceded by a tilde
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ~^ was also preceded by a tilde
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if you put the tilde in your trigger pattern, the trigger will actually look for a ^ in the mud output
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Wtf are you talking about, just be quiet already.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so some tildes are removed and others slip through when speaking on tech
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ~ is the zmud escape character so ~^ means the trigger starts with a LITERAL carat, now shush
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: do not precede a ^ with a tilde in a zmud trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Myrkul buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger goes, "Omfg".
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: ^omg^, a flying spaghetti monster
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Is there anything addition i need to install alongside LAMP (besides perl obviously) to use Perl for CGI purposes? I tried including , but it's not showing up on the page
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know how to get just the first row of a Select statement's result in Mushclient/SQL? I've only used db:nrows in a for loop, doesn't seem to work outside of one.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Using the SQLLite Wrapper that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so use the first result
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well I enter a for loop and just break out after the first result, just seems like there should be an easier wya.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: well I could....
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why worry about it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you now know a way to do it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you only waste your time looking for a second way
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not sure about sqlite, but in Oracle, you can use rownum = 1
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: add a "limit 1" to the end of your select statement?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ooh good call on the limit 1, but I still don't how to access a result outside of a for loop.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: just use the for loop, if you have one item, then it won't loop
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: The answer to your question Fiendish, is you are right I could just do it the way I know how...but if I always do that, I never learn the BEST way to do something...and the readability of my own code is hurt by looking back and thinking why the heck did I do it this way.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is no best way in programming
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there are ways that work and ways that don't work
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there are occasionally trades made for performance, but only bother where it actually matters
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: There are often ways that work better, and ways that work ... less so.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav glances at bubble sort.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But I like the code to look elegant :)
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hi reina
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: anyone familier in using vyatta?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what's that?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: Vyatta's open, software-based approach to networking has created a complete network OS that can connect and secure physical networks as well as virtual.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: never heard of it
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm when I try to load up mushclient it says ./worlds/Aardwolf.mcl contains an invalid path. When I check it out, it seems the plugins point to something in c:\windows32\worlds\...
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: any idea which file I can edit to stop this?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what did you do?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: um I wrote a plugin and then I closed the world.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: when I tried to reopen this happened..
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: why is it in windows32?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: its not..its in program files
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: but somehow something is poitning to windows32
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what did you do before now? did you do something before?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: same question. If you don't have write access to program files, you won't run.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what version of windows are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: I'm using windows 7
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: but I think I'm on an adminstrator account
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: I believe so
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: even admins will bomb unless they take ownership if program files.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: of*
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm and how do I do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't do that.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: well, for now, just go into the control panel and disable UAC, that's probably the easiest way. Taking ownership of a folder takes a bit of practice.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: Im pretty sure UAC is disabled..I've never got annoying popups and what not
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: here: Control Panel\User Accounts and Family Safety\User Accounts
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: click on change User Account Controls settings and disable UAC.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: can't disable in win7, just turn all the way down
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: same thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: ok brb
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you don't have to have it disabled to avoid pop-ups, just not at max level.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: no luck
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: same issue
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: anyone know how I can completely remove mushclient? theres no uninstall bundled with this
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: No install, either.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HyPo Tech: Just delete the files.
T3/r3/2011-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: does gmcp only display quest time as part of the group package or am i missing it somewhere else?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: it displays quest time in the quest package but it doesn't update it.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: quest package? that isn't even listed in protocols gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: comm.quest
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: technically a sub-package :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: ah
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: the wiki page has the info on it.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: hmmm i see that now. thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: is there a way of "turning of" the regular channel message that get displayed so I can just capture what gets sent via GMCP? DO I jut need to do client side triggers to gag everything? Is there a downside to doin this?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you need turn on channel tags and then use client side triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so is there a way to make windows vista not be so horrible?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: by that i mean
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no, there isn't
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: is there a way to make it quit running processes that dont need to be running
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: ditch it and install windows xp
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia is agreeing with that Farkyss person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you can streamline it a bit with msconfig, that's about it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: The only good think about vista is that cake game
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: peebles place or whatever its called?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: with the memory matching games and whatnots
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Such a fun game.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they weren't even a standard part of vista
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: only certain editions
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: fun times
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nods, fun that 10 years on and xp is still the OS to use
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i have heard that even microsoft complains about vista
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it'll happen less, it drops off their support schedule before too much longer
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: vista without sp1 already went
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: neat
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Xp ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont wanna pay for xp though
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you wouldn't be able to, it's not been available to buy in 5 years
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im sure i can find it somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: unless you can track down a retail box on ebay
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: that soudns like work
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: then clearly you don't hate vista sufficiently enough
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia is agreeing with that Farkyss person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: if you have vista, the first thing you should do is buy windows 7 and do a clean install
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: actually throw it away and buy a mac.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: if you can't afford xp, you sure as hell aren't going to afford w7
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: no, macs are poor value for money
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: and XP costs more than win7 these days, I think
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: besides which, if you hate vista, chances are you'll hate w7
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: deliberately, because MS doesn't want people buying it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: uh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i can see a dozen windows xp's on ebay for under $20 right nwo
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: oh, ebay, well that's cheating
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I just got a mapper error... Run-time error
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: anyway, I gotta go, got a Microsoft seminar at cambridge regional college today
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: has windows 7 been getting good reviews? i dread the day my current pc with xp needs replacing ... i speak as one with experience of windows me!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: not really, thinkon
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: for w7, think vista with less bugs but all the bloat
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Reason: processing alias "" ...er\Desktop\MUSHclient\lua\aardmapper.lua:1305: attempt to index a nil value stack traceback: ...er\Desktop\MUSHclient\lua\aardmapper.lua:1305: in function 'find' [string "Plugin"]:1975: in function <[string "Plugin"]:1962>
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: O.o Who speaks that language?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: post me a note with the entire error message
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: when that happened were you trying to run a command?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Yeah, i wanted to run to sendhia O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what command did you do?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: fiend i got that error too and i think i kind of figured it out -> when you set auto walk to true in map_area/map_find etc, find function in lua attempts to walk even though if the destination is unreachable
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I probably know how to fix it, but I need to know what armenia did
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I'm kind of stuck now, because its kind of a clan thing :|
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: What?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: what do you mean armenia a clan thing?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: you can try this: i got that error when i set auto walk to true in map_area's mapper.find, head to nenukon and try mapper area campsite
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you changed something in the script?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: just toggling auto walk
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: only that
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm going to take that toggle out :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not responsible for you breaking things by changing the script
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: now what did you do, Armenia?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: its not something that can be talked about outside the clan fiendish sry
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the script likewly broke while doing something inside hte clan defense area
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: We didn't change the mapper script O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I just wanted to go to sendhia *sob*
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well then YOU figure out the bug if you're not going to tell me what you did
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: should never have given the masses a mapper script :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: seriously. bunch of ingrates
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: no reason to be a prick fiendish she is using a script created by a clan member that doesnt want any info about the script spread
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: then why is it up to Fiendish to fix it?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: it isnt and thats what i stated
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your clan member being a dick means you won't properly report a bug in the package that half the mud uses?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raistlin Tech: its a clan issuse so drop it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Man, DoH was different when I was leader.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I'm pretty sure you can trust Fiendish to just fix the bug and not spread it, if it was sensitive.... he already gave us the mapper o.0
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: had people, and everything?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: had sonrokito too. I was sad to see him go.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: on the plus side, you are written in C
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish says, "Did you know that I'm written in C?"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and an earthbound misfit?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone uses's Bast plugins? Any idea where to find your stats db to transfer it to the new client?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the bug in aardmapper.lua will be fixed in the next update, no thanks to the members of doh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I don't use mush, but appreciate your hardwork, Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss licks Bel, The Lord of Avernus.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: We love you too, Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: This might be a stupid question...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I have a bad feeling about this...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well all of the sudden my cpu usage on my computer doesnt go below 80% and all im running is gmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you're never 'just' running gmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so should i be worried about malware if i havent been searching or downloading anything?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: try closing gmud
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well thats all I opened behind the seens thers 47 other things running that it lets me see
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Could just be a virus scan.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i turned off my anti malware protection to see if that was causing it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but still stays high
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: what does task manager say
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: other than "I'm tired and want to go home"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: idle systems 99% cpu usage and moves a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: physical memory 32%
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's processing idle tasks, which are numerous
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I wouldn't worry
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well its causing me to not be able to do anything else but what its doing :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: vista?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: causing programs that i want to run to crash and stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yeah...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: I think we've found the source of your trouble
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yeah...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: liek explorer thats kind of important and it keeps crashing and i figured that was the problem :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: pretty sure there isnt any malware on it cause i ran a sacn yesterday and havent done anything that i know of
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: Fed up with slow browsing!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im fed up with windows in general :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cide: Windows is a good OS for the average user. It is all relative to what kind of user you are.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you need an inflatable arm-flailing tube man!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i'd leave it alone to get on with what it's doing
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i cant get on with what i was doing is the problem :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well guess i could just play aard all day
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: seems to liek to run this but nothing else
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: an aard virus?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cide: Use Chrome or Foxfire.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i use foxfire
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: yes, because changing web browser will solve it. *rolls eyes*
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: nothign to change shrug :P
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: however a hammer...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: that will solve the problem im sure
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you change any audio video settings to a higher resolution
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: use a dolphin, more environmentally friendly
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: actually changed them lower
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: or a child
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: children scare me so i might try the dolphin
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Farkyss: No, do this. http://www.geekologie.com/2008/08/father_nails_xbox_to_tree_to_s.php
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well that has xbox in the title, so is a fail before it starts
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Farkyss: That was the point. XBox = Microsoft = Windows.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: translation: "hurr, durr, i have/planning to get a ps3"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i had a ps3 once
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: xbox is one of the few things ms got right
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: xbox wasnt too bad
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: 360, not the one that has a small planet for a controller
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: they just break way to easy
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not since jasper
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i see
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that sucked, yes
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: quickshot pro and cheetah mk2 were the definers, the rest of them can clear off
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: So, all you physics people: Explain to me why my winshield was frozen over when it never got below freezing last night.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: was there wind?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Madcatz shrugs in response to Shapechanger's question.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: so i installed a mini inv window plugin, it installed correctly but i dont see the window, how could i pull it up? mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: have you tried calling to it in the style of a chicken?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: umm
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: no?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sacrificed virgins?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: i did try that but i guess she was unpure
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well that's the limit of my mush client - you're better off asking Abe, Fiendish, or Bast
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have invmon and tags inv on?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I'm using MUSHclient and I want to see my map on the main world window. How can I do this? It randomly happens sometimes when the map window freezes.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Remove the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: lemme try.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah disable the plugin should stop the gag
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: what is the pluggin's name? Don't want to delete the wrong thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ascii map
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zerstorer smiles happily.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Thanks, guys!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in the furture if you want both, you could find the line in that plugin that gag's the map from your main window and comment it out with a --
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Ok!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then reinstall it
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: When I were a lad, we used to draw the maps with pencil on graph paper
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is agreeing with that Farkyss person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: once the next generation lose these skills, they'll be gone forever
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: already they don't know the sound of a modem
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: when i were a lad we used to draw maps on clay tablets with reeds
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Lol. Or dial-up
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that is because modern kids are essentially stupid
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: What is "Dial-up" ?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I loved that heavenly sound of computer phlegm early in the morning!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: me too... it felt like you were really connecting to something :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: "Mommy, why is the computer making a phone call?"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: anyone seen punch cards? Those were the days. If you have, you know why it's called a batch job.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: those things are sharp
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: (drops punch cards) "Oh, Dear God!"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i am glad to not know that pain :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I think of that as B.C.F
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Before Computers (were) Fun
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Lol Burlington Coat Factory? xD
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: computers were always fun
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they're actually considerably -less- fun than they were once
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think it's different fun
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Old text-based adventure games on terminals!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Noone plays text based games anymore!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: killing someone with a sword on my phone while on the toilet is pretty fun
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Dang, I was eaten by a grue!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: anyone?? lol
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: serves you right!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiyazi Tech: MUDs taught me how to type when I was 12. Now I play them on my smartphone. Just sayin'
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 12, not 6 like a smart kid
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: perhaps computers were common when you were 6, but some of use are a bit older....
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: for a lot of people, laptops, mobile phones, and the internet have always been there
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: when I was 6, the Internet wasn't invented yet...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you should be retiring soon then?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not quite that old.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The Internet came about in 1983
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Pshhh, when I was 6, I was playing halo ce.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: err... origins of the internet were 1958
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Or 1969 if you count the arpanet
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what happened in 1958 that you count as the Internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: 1969 is traditionally considered the launch
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: 1958 was when the concept was invented
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would consider 1983 as the start of the Internet, but 1969 as the start of the internet concept
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: i.e. switched packet networks
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: when was Al Gore born? Didnt he invent the internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: ron jeremy did <3
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I was 2 seconds from saying that!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: In 1983 I was -6 years old.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: the Al Gore thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: Ron Jeremy didn't invent the internet, he just layed the pipeline
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: "pipeline"
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: in 1983 I was drunk for the first time. Won't get more specific than that.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: While you're at it. Tell me how to do a math in mushclient O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: OMG dad?!?!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox winks suggestively.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Trololololo,lololo,lololo
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia screams "trololololololololololololololololololo" at Zerstorer.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Best meme evar!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I would really really like to add a simple math formula in a trigger but I dont know how O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: I wish to purchase tutoring services!
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ok I am getting this error for a script I just installed: %% Perl exception: Campaign.pm did not return a true value at (eval 327) line 2.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: this is the 2nd line of the script i entered: if ($line =~ /^You still have to kill \* (.+) \(/) {
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: got more than one mob left for your CP?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i didnt have any but i will have more than 1
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i check it on another character that I just took a campaign on so he had 15 targets
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and it failed for that char?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: it did
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i just took one on this char and have 12 targets to kill
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: any seasoned perl coders out there, im getting an error on a script im trying to use and i cant figure it out
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallendbor Tech: does aard only work over telnet? can it work over ssh in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: telnet only
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kallendbor Tech: meh
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: an ssh option would be nice, to be honest
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: pretty sure zmud doesn't have an ssh proxy anyways, so it wouldn't work that way either.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: although in another sense, I don't really care
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ssh comes with it's own proxy...
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: at any rate, aard isn't an ssh game so it wouldn't matter how you connected so long as aard thought you were using telnet.
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: i HAVEN'T upgraded MUSH Client recenty,but it has recently added a grey blank status bar i think it is, between Ready and my text entry box - how can i remove it please?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Sounds like you're missing the old hp/mana/move bars
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: it's the space for those but i need it gone
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: it wasn't there a few days ago and i haven't knowingly made any changes but it's just appeared, and it cuts into the space for my text entry box so i'd really like to remove it please
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: View->Status Bar
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: btw, why not upgrade?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: coz i know what i have works and then i don't have to set it up again :) i might look into what the changes are later to evaluate the importance to me of any changes
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: i'm on the 2nd most recent version
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: tyvm fiendish, that worked :)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i haven't updated zmud in years
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: if the changes aren't big for me it may be better to wait a few versions and then upgrade
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: that's because zugg hasn't coded any for it for what 5 plus years?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: something like that
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: yup, means i don't have to pee about with updates
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: maybe, except upgrading takes 2 seconds and doesn't have to disrupt anything
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but anyway, was just curious
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: well, it takes me longer a bit longer to save and move the relevant files, luckily there's a guide on the aard mud site, but i still don't like to do it frequently - and i know i like it how it is... hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: in a way it's a compliment to the creator/upgrader of the version i'm currently using - it doesn't have any glaring problems for me ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which version are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: do you have an AardwolfPackageChanges.txt file?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: i get lost looking through this all because my switch isn't even from my car brand let alone for my car, but i was told it'd work if i could get to the bottom of what the poles are used for, most switches have at least 5 poles on the web that i've found, some with only 4
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: man car wiring is weird
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: anyone know why my DoAfter script commands have suddenly stopped working in Mushclient???
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: oh...change that question...anyone know why my timers are not being enabled when i start up mushclient???
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Shift-Ctrl-0, and make sure the Enable Timers button is checked?
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: yeah. don't know why it turns them off at startup...enabling them manually fixes the problem...thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it doesn't turn them off at startup if you save your settings after changing it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: who wants to answer some dumb questions about drives?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: how dumb?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: who wants to answer some dumb questions about drives?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: would anyone know what a blank partition would be that if u delete volume it shows as unallocated (not free space) and does not allow u to move into another partition?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: "unallocated" is not a blank partition
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: if you want to make a blank partition, right click on the unallocated and then click New Volume I think it is
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: or, if you want to expand an existing partition into unallocated space, you do that by right clicking the partition you want to expand I think
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: and then selecting Extend Volume
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: nod. i have done that. i have 11.72gb of unallocated space. but when i click my 2 volumes there is not an option to expand them as i did this when i shrunk my d space
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: the unallocated space does have to be right next to your existing volumes to be able to extend into it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suggest completely wiping out the D partition instead of just shrinking it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: oh, yeah, if you've got a C then a D then the unallocated apce, and you want to extend the C, that's not gonna work
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there's no reason for having multiple partitions on a single device without wanting to install multiple operating systems
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: you'll have to back up and remove the D in order to extend the C in that scenario
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: let me send u tells because that is not the issue either
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: well I am actually off to work in a minute
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: maybe fiendish can help
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: he was already trying :P
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't like giving specific advice on windows 7, sine I haven't really used it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I can't suggest what to click on
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Danj Tech: well, I'll be back in about... 11 hours' time
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: how do you edit variables in a plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: i have a rather interesting problem... for some reason my Media Player Classic suddenly refuses to play any sound. Changing the name of the exe file solves the issue, but it comes back after a reboot. Anyone knows what is doing this?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: How do I get rid of color codes in GMCP comm.channel messages?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm storing them for reading with a screen reader. The color codes are spammy.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: an interesting issue
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: surely it's a bug that turning off color doesn't also turn off colors in gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you should post that as a bug note
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what client do you use?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I can agree that color codes come through in the comm window
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm not sure. The stuff I get from GMCP looks like what I get when I type rawcolors. So I'm wondering if I have some unwanted flag somewhere? The GMCP in mushclient page does not help me, unfortunately. Using mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: especially channel titles and in auctions
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: how good are you with scripting lua stuff?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because I can tell you how to do it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i know there is "Tell" and "ColorTell"
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: WinkleWinkle: shhh
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Good enough. Should I just use a regexp to strip out all at signs followed by a single letter? That looks like it will kill all of them, as far as I can tell.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hold on. there is actually a strip_colour_codes function hidden away that you can use
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you look inside of worlds/plugins/aardwolf_colors.lua
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: at the bottom of the file is a function called strip_colours
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Okay, thanks! I'm not using the mushclient aardwolf, but I'll grab it. None of that stuff looked useful to me, as it is all graphical windows and things.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you make a plugin and then include the line dofile(GetPluginInfo (GetPluginID(), 20).."aardwolf_colors.lua")
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah, it is all graphical stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though I do want to also make something for people who use screen readers
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I may be asking soon for help with that, since I don't use one myself
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hold off on it. I'm about a quarter done with that. I have the design document, and the output reading, and am nearly free of telopts at this point.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anyway, if you grab that file you can either just copy that strip_colours function or just ues the line I pasted above and then call the function directly from the file
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: use
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'll grab the file. I want to stay as close to your distribution as possible. I think I should also be able to use the mapper backend? Just comment out the line that does mapper.show on load and then use the mapper aliases.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: absolutely. I'd be very happy to help with that
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I've been working on making an ascii non-graphical version of the GMCP mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Already got it working, I think. Mapper areas is showing things, anyway.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: just let me know if you need any changes made to the official distribution for this
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: WinkleWinkle: How far have you got? Would be happy to combine efforts.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I just hope that you're working from the aardwolf mushclient package version of the mapper, because that has a lot of extra features and bug fixes over the old one from the forums
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not very far unfortunately, but i'd be happy to contribute if possible
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i wanted to make ascii everything.. ascii health bars.. asciss gmcp map
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Neither have I. All I did was make sure the mapper window is always hidden. The aliases still work fine. Still trying to decide what else is needed.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ascii as in ascii artwork? or ascii as in letters and numbers?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was doign a hack-and-slash job of it as it was only for myself (up to now perhaps)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Fiendish: strip_colours is working perfectly. Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wonderful!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: like the ascii mapper, but for the gmcp mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish whistles appreciatively.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i thought the old big map was ansii?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the old bigmap is like that, yes, though the new bigmap plugin is actually graphical
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Not sure how useful that would be to screen readers. ASCII art really isn't a good thing. What I want is to make some sort of tree view with known areas and known rooms. Expand the area branch, find the room, hit enter, and go. Problem beeing, I don't think you can make windows controls from mushclient lua scripts.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: theorectically makign an ascii display of the GMCP mapper wouldn't be too bad as the hard part (mostly) is the back-end
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: fastfinge, you can make a dropdown list
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: at least in a miniwindow you can
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I think the best I can do is make mapper find present a menu of found rooms and allow one to be selected and used in mapper goto.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Really? Didn't know that. A listbox of all known rooms could get...large, tough.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: though.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: actually the hard part of the mapper is mostly the front end, tbh
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the back end isn't simple, but I wouldn't want to reproduce the map display in ascii art
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that would be tough
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, I wrote my own version of the mapper "engine" with 25 lines of code....
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can also make list boxes and stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i'll find you the right doc page
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i must admit i'm making a lot of assumptions in what I'm saying.. but I've gotten up to my elbows in a fair bit of the existing plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?lua=utils.listbox
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Thanks Fiendish!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So are GMCP channel messages still sent when I'm in quiet mode?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so would a window with a listbox with a "type to limit options" dropdown list be what you're after FastFringe?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would be it exactly, WinkleWinkle
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: gmcp channel messages are only sent for channels that you see in quiet mode, like gtell
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah, okay. So is there any way to turn off channel messages, but still get the out of band GMCP messages?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you have the channel tags on and then gag the line
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the channel capture window plugin in the aardwolf mushclient package has that ability
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hmmm. Was hoping to avoid use of tags. My trigger free screen reader scripts look so nice and clean! :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: not a big deal, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ideally this would merge into the aard mushclient package and then a person could type in something like "blindusermode" to just switch
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which means you could make use of the functions already in the available plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: blindusermode == botmode?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I hope not
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would be harder than it looks. First, it would need to be something like screenreader type.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Currently I have support for Jaws for Windows, Window Eyes, and Non Visual Desktop Access.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It would then need to hide all the graphical windows, and open a new notepad window. Then load several new scripts.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well you let me know when you're done with it, and I'll do the work to merge it into the official package
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Will do.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hiding windows is easy
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: I dont use them since I moved to tintin, but your work is appreciated Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish gallantly tips her hat.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't like not having anything for non-visual players in the official client. I just don't know how to properly set everything up for screen readers, so I haven't done it yet myself.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm a little confused about the internals of gmcpval. Do I have to get a table of values every time I call it? For example, I want shift f4 to announce current hit points. Can I just call gmcpval in the alias without doing all that onplugin broadcast stuff? I want the current value, I don't care when it changes.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in theory aard_GMCP_handler.xml populates gmcpdata with persistent information
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: keep in mind that those onpluginbroadcast sections aren't actually receiving data. they're just receiving a message that data has arrived
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the data is all kept somewhere more global
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which is why you need that res, gmcparg = CallPlugin mumbo jumbo
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: ah, right. That handler scares me at first blush; it doesn't work the way I would expect. It works the right way, instead. LOL
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: hi guys, please read note 5382 and tell me if that's enough info for you to assist me, or if more is required
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can't help sorry :(
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: why not? Not enough info?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I've had trouble with midpssh. I just tried various versions/options from http://www.xk72.com/midpssh/download.php and something worked, good luck!
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no exp with your problem
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: that's where i downloaded this, but thanks:)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: oh okay@winklewinkle it's cool
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: I have a problem
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: is it that you need more cowbell?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Isn't it always?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: my old internet broke down for 3 days, so I started using my neighbor's internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: during this time, I started playing Aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: now my old internet is fixed, but when I try to played Aardwolf, it can't connect.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Now you're addicted, and your neighbor doesn't want you using their internet anymore?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah..
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and yet here you are
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: So I can only play Aardwolf on my neigbor's crappy internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: turn off your router's firewall
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: or allow an exception :P
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: I tried that.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: wait....
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I guess the first question is, when you're connected through your internet connection, can you reach websites, etc.?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: so I allowed an exception for Mushclient, which should work for all my connections right?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: yes, on my home connection which just got fixed, I can go on websites.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: also, the same thing happens when my brother tried to connect to his goldeneye 007 multiplayer option.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then yeah, it's your firewall. What are the specifics of the exceptions you've opened up?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: basically, when I try to log on with my fixed connection, There's nothing for like 25 seconds then connection timed out appears.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: let me check.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: I'm going to turn off my firewall and try to log in with my good connection to see if it's actualy the firewall.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: it's not my firewall
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: maybe I need to open port... which port number was this game?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 4010
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: should I open it?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: shouldn't matter
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: it's not my firewall that's not lettingme connect, then what is?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Minwu Tech: this is what I get when I try to log in with my fiexed connection: Unable to connect to "Aardwolf", code = 10060 (Connection timed out)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: i installed an inv mini window but i cant get the actual window to pop up, is there a command to make it do so? inventory_Display is the name of it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: blainer's ? if so try invdata
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: probably tags inv on
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and invmon
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if i have a .json file on my server, how can i 'read' it in javascript?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: my ipod keeps surging usb ports...any ideas why?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how old is the USB port? And what do you mean by surging?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your ipod is the slave device, it isn't surging anything
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: when i plug the ipod in to charge it on the computer, i get the message that it surged the port or overloaded the port or something
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the power in the port is provided by the computer/host, not by the ipod
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that means it wants to suck more power than the computer is ready to give it
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: happened on two computers
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: but didnt happen before which made me think it was a ipod problem
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: sysboard replacement ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: Line 321: Error parsing script (Cannot load)! help
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: OK Dirrty, sure we can try to help, but need a lot more info than that.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where'd you get the file you're trying to load?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Start with the client, and what you are trying to do, is this on startup or are you trying to make your own something?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: its mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: Inventory_Window_2.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: i followed the direction on the web and removed 6dbbeddda02ed2390b58ccd9-state.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: ahh that inv miniwin, that one is a pain to get working. the most stable one i have found is at blainer's google code page.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, blainer's google code page is the one with Inventory_Window_2.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That plugin is not good either.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i use test_inv
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: it's more stable then his other one
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirrty Tech: any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: is there an easy way for me to reset window sizes?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: in what?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: sorry...in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: any particular window?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you know you can just manually resize any of them with the dragger tab in the corner
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think Fiendish would know.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: all of them basically
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I fail to see why you'd need to
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ie if i copy my mushclient directory onto my laptop, the screen size differs...and the resize tabs are off the screen...
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so drag the window over to the left
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: can't you just drag them about to get what you want?
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and then resize
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the only window that might be a problem is the main output. you can reset that by typing "resetaard"
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: all other ones can be dragged sufficiently to hte left that you can then resize them
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: thanks, that is the one i needed...the others i can drag...
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so why didn't you just ask about that one? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Too easy, no fun :p
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: i thought there might have been one command to do the whole lot
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: got to have fun yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no because it's not needed
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: how do i set up a alarm for quest time
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: MUSH ?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: make a trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: use the You can quest message as the trigger line
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: has to be exact, cut and paste it from game
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Also make sure you have a sound file
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: yea i got it picked out
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: but dont know how to play it so my options
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: many
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: then there is a Box that says sound, you can click test or w/e after you pick the file. If the trigger line is correct it will make the sound for your quest ready ^^
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: awesome thnks alot
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: pretty ez, once you get the hang nice to make double alarms as well ^^
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tantlus Tech: double what for gq as well
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eldunari Tech: how well does the java client work?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fantomex Tech: So, technically, itsn't it Friday, Friday and we gotta get down on Friday?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's friday. Not tecnhnicaly, it's just friday.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: aka misspeling day :)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: how to bind F1-F12 to alias?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: do it client side
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: like make f1 get jade bag;drink jade
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: in game>config>alias ? or in the same game
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: would be yer client, i use a mac so no mush for me:(
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: yer gonna need a mush user to tell ya how to set up aliases in mush
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: yes i ve mush, i am going to try thx
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midway, the fkeys are game -> configure -> macros
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: could i desactivate f1 for mushclient in order to use this key?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: is a window help :/
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: there's a tickbox in the settings iirc
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i wish i could use mush without having to go out and buy parallels
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: yes, go through the options, there is a setting somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: you could use virtualbox with xp on it, limunious
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: wine should work as well
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: oh lemme google those two things
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: fiendish uses mush on wine afaik
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is he on a mac too?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: any car expert here?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there aren't such things these days
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: is there any way to keep the colors on, but change them all to like the duller versions? in the regular game ansi
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: so wine seems to be the best option to be able to use mush on a mac?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: free option that is
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I think you might have been looking for 'colorset normal' earlier Limunious.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ph 5
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: ack thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: And yes, people have reported success with Mush under wine.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: ...on macs
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: thanks:)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: how do i put these spellheaders off?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what spellheaders?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: when i get online then it shows this with alot of spells not casted {/spellheaders}
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using a spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: trying to fix it... laptop crashed so just reinstalled mush and the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: as far as I know that's not an aardwolf feature, so it's probably something in the script doing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: spellup plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ooh, now lasher just needs to make is so we can use xterm colours in channels and stuff ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Does anyone know the default font and size for MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: the size depends on your screen size, that I know
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I'll mess with that one. What about the font itself?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: Lucida Console, 9pt
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Ahhh thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Littbarski Tech: this is on the new Aardwolf Client, ver 4.72
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I havent updated at my dad's house yet. I will soon.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Ok the wolf doesn't look deformed anymore lol
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm on aard mud client v7.21
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: are usb ports that come with a computer "powered hubs"?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sortof
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they have 500mA of power supplied each
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: what is a proper powered hub, does it plug into the wall and then just have a usb port or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: basically yeah.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: why do you ask?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: okay thanks a lot tiger and sue
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: plugs into your pc and into the mains to provide 500mA of power to each usb socket
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: my ipod (my only means of communication cuz its got the free texting application) keeps surging my computer...so i read online that i should get a powered hub and it would be okay to charge that way
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: might help
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does it surge any other pc's when you try it?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: only tried two....but surged two
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: might want to try a replacement cable
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what do you mean by surging?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: then it may be that the cable is faulty
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or the ipod
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: message says something like Power surge on hub port device exceeded...
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Mine don't do that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: you might get away with a powered hub, but id agree that a replacement cable would be a good thing to try
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think his cable is bad.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: okay cool, just the cable that connects the ipod to the comp?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep, if that doesn't work, send it off for repair
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: cool thanks a lot for your tips
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mlungu Tech: that's the one, either the cable, or one of the strips in the usb plug on the cable
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You very welcome Raijon.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: What is the name of the big map plugin for the new MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: get rid of the rich person entitlement and achieve a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: some people who aren't doing anything want to be working but dont have the option
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: lol fail
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well Micky D's is having there big hiring thing on the 19th.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Atlantic Monthly had a very interesting article on AI, conversation bots, and the Turing test: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/03/mind-vs-machine/8386/
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: How can I disable echo on my android phone?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the mud doesn't echo commands. your client does that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: oh. ok thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, kinda. We have echocommands now.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: its just a minor inconvinience, thats all.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: echocommands is not a standard thing
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and probably not what he's talking about
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: stop playing on your cell phone and play properly on a computer.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: Whoa no call for that sir.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, I love playing on my cell.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: I would if i could, I promise you that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: I don't
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: what client are you using zerstorer?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: telnet?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: did I every say about you playing with yourself down there yet, A good many play on phones.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: you should try blowtorch
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: dont know how to input the name and port
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: andromud ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I don't know they like blowtorch on there thingies.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Maybe some would like that.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: try blowtorch and andromud.. I prefer andromud
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: i use andromud
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: host name, port number etc. i dont know what to put
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: i can help you get blowtorch setup. the custom buttons are really nice.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: if you put aardwolf.org in host name
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: go on
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: aardmud.org port 4000
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: is ther mccp on the android mud clients?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: port 23 works for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: idts
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: blowtorch has mccp
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: 4000 worked.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: ill b on there soon
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wabisuke Tech: lol I don't think I could compete s
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: i can send you a button layout for aard
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: is there a good mud client for the iphone?
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: now about these custom buttons.
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: There's a free one called Portable Mud i think...
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: press and hold to make a button
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: not the best way to play, but it works
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ah okay thanks will check it out :)
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zerstorer Tech: press and hold what
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: just press and hold on the text window
T3/r3/2011-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: label is what shows up on the button, cmd is what is sent to the mud.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ok this is a Linux question, I use Ubuntu and looking for a new printer AiO. What do those in the linux communtity suggest.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: just about any printer will work :p
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure why it has to be exclusively Linux question
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Kodak don't work
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I have a Brother MFC something or other
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Yeah - CUPS isn't nearly as limited on drivers as it used to be...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I've got an HP
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it must be supported by gimp-print/cups
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Bad grammar, sorry - but manufacturers are pretty good at providing drivers nowadays
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of crappy printers that don't work left
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I have a kodak 3250 that don't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Try HP or Brother
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as she's looking at an AIO, she probably wants more functionality than just printing
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: generally, to get a good printer, it should be heavy and expensive
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes Abelinc I am looking for more support as to card reading and such. I seen that Hp is more linux developed.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just looked at the AiO google scene and you're right, it's pretty empty
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might want to research Dell printers as currently they're the only big manufacturers (I think?) offering Linux OOB
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: on their computers
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Linux is an OS, not a manufacturer.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: linux is a kernel
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure how that was relevant to my statement...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: entopee's saying they offer linux as an option preloaded on their computers...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dell was the manufacturer mentioned
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: as for driver support on linux, it's been years since I've had any such problems. Most printers nowadays just work out of the box.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but google before buying, just to be sure
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes dell does offer Laptops with Linux, I am looking at full AiO printer support and asking all those that use Linux on what they use.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the only problem I've had with my brother is that my particular model can't send faxes with VoIP
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so the fax line has to be a standard line
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and that is Fiendish?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use a MX-2700 and a MX-1800 at work, and they are great, but might be a bit too expensive. At home I have a 15 year old HP that weighs a ton, but always work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think MFC-8840D. I forget.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are any of those AIOs, ranrr?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's HPs site on their stuff: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the sharp MX-xxxx are multifunction stuff, but more for office usage
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: AiO == All-in-One
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am not asking for cheap, I just want one that will work. Deskjet, Laser, it don't matter.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: hp would be your best bet for an aio that works out of the box
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: i've had 2 in the last 3 years that worked out of the box
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I will say that my HP photosmart AiO worked OOB, too...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: A major difference between cheap and expensive printers is toner cost, check that before buying
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it can easily be a factor of 20-30 difference
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Ranrr I am not the one providing the cost.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: where are you going to use the printer?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: in a business enviroment.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Then I recommend the sharp MX-1800 or 2700, those are great.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: for 1k to 2k units?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what do you mean by 1k units?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: 1000 plus
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: are we talking price here?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No I don't give a poo about price right now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: all I want is an AiO printer that will work in linux.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You want to buy 1k-2k individual units?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes Entopee
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ah
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: so one printer per computer I assume?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You might be better off talking to professional printer consultants who specialize in Linux
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Kodak can't deliver.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: just buy 3 printers...think of all the money you would save!!!! (Come on, it is a great idea.......????)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No I found specialist in the gameing world.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if one component of an AiO breaks down ..
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just buy a few different and test them. If you're going to buy thousands of units, you should have the budget for that.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Rannrr we don't have the time to buy and test few units.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an AiO saves office space over three separate components
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: We are moving to Ubuntu 10.10, So to clearify things, we need AiO's that will work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then go to HP, and tell them you will buy 1k printers from them if they guarantee linux support.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: been there, they don't know about AiO support.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try again, and ask to talk to the sales manager
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no Kodack don't support Linux at all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "clarify" - to convert things into soup (fractured dictionary)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: have you checked out hplip? they have a list of AIO's that they recommend
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kylac Tech: hplip package to be exact
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I gave the URL to it earlier
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes I looked at Hplip, and no it don't support the AiO we want, will tha
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just curious, why put one printer on each computer instead of central shared printers?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but "the aio we want", from the perspective of how you came into the thread here is the one that works...so the one it supports is the one you want :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Rannrr It's not the individual computers.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so you have 1k office locations, or...?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: more then 1k.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and how many people at each office?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: truthfully 7 to 9, but not quote me on that.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, then I think the sharp MX-1800N would be a good choice actually.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's a real office printer, networked and all. Just works.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: an it can take the pressure of printing a 1k pages a day.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure, but if you want that volume, you may want to go for MX-2700 or even higher.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 2700 means 27 pages per minute, 1800 means 1800 pages per minute etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, with that volume and that quantity, I'd be leasing
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: they have even faster ones as well
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no the volume is not that high but it can get there.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: leasing an office copier takes care of toner and maintenance costs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yeah, I agree, leasing is probably a good choice, then you just pay a cost per page and everything is taken care of for you
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: We went that route Abelinc,
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: It's not cost effective.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, then you didn't have a good contract
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: actually, your offices may be a bit too small for leasing to be cost effective
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: let me explain, Our printing don't cost us much as do to corporate.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: so those that responded Thank you, Ubuntu 10.10.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not a network printer problem.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: wha is the cost of a cheap Msbox as an intermediary between the Linux computer and a Win-AiO-printer
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: As in, the MSBox acting as a print server?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: since the available AiO-printers depend on Win-software, yep
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: something like that would be a pain to support
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, it depends on load, but you can pick up the box that someone left on my sidewalk 10 mins ago and it should work fine
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's more of a matter of the intercompatability
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: like I told my bosses, Linux support is not ready for mainstream.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hardware support is pretty awful
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Everything "works," but Linux is treated as a second-class citizen
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You're wrong. You're looking at cheap home junk, not real hardware.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no not everything works
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Wait, so "cheap home junk" is not mainstream?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: an no I am not looking at cheap home junk.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Depends on what you mean with mainstream.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, hardware support of that level doesn't matter for business machines...you don't have to support whatever walks in the door, you choose the hardware based on business need
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I agree with that - maybe I wasn't looking at the business aspect of mainstream
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if Linux is not ready for homes then it darn poo is not ready for business.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and supporting hardware-based directx video shading doesn't matter for the overwhelming majority of business applications ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really true, saatai, depends on the business
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a business computer doesn't need to do everything. it needs to do its job
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: generally, business needs are much simpler to support than home needs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well ours don't need to do gameing graphics
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I found my asnwer this night, if linux can't support printers then well we will stay with Windows
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and since it can support printers, you can go with linux :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: printers is much different than aio...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's not Linux that can't support printers
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it supports printing to many aio units, but supports the scanning features of a smaller subset
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if Linux wants to be mainstream it has to live in mainsteam.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: business isn't mainstream
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: if it wants to be mainstream, hardware has got to transition to open specs :p
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it cannot dictate to hardware without already being mainstream ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if your requirement for an OS is that it has to support any HW you throw at it, then windows is your only choice
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: no, my requirement is that it supports SOME acceleration hardware well
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, I could even run windows on my alpha ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Milkshake Tech: but it can't really do even that because of those jackasses not opening up their platform specs :p
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That was a long, long, long time ago, Abe
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: acutally I like Linux, it supports my home crap very well, but I am tasked to do the office crap so Now I am the bad gir.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what I still MUD from, ranrr :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Cool :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: is reason I asked all of you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course I don't have the ARC firmware loaded, since I'd never put NT on it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, teh Sharp MX series work fine in any OS. And there are plenty of other options as well.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And there are plenty of stuff that won't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Make a choice.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Will it run ... in EMACS?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Ranrr I will bring up your suggestion later this day.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and I am not taking credit for any it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: as I already said I will go out and find those that know.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hi boss? yeah, I talked to some guy on a MUD, he suggested the sharp mx1800n
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr laughs out loud.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let's order 1k of 'em
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yea now Abe wants to get dumb again.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Abelinc I just really truely have to ask this question of you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask away :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: No, you don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nobody is holding a gun to you forcing you to say it ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: is there a way to make the mushclient health/mana/moves bar into numerical values instead of the bar value?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: How stupid are you?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Have you enabled the StatMon?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: about half as much as the one who asked :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: no fair answering a question with a question...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Okami: the whole point is the bars. If you just want numerical values, set up your prompt.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not as stupid as you'remaking yourself look, Saatai.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: i understand the prompt but i dont like how it appears after every line
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Cheez you fit right in there.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: and would like it to be in a bar underneeth
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: If you say so.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am not the one that got my ass in trouble and then had to remake.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Heh, the relevance here is?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You still here.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: At the rate you're going, you probably won't be :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: botting can catch up to you yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Okami: sorry. that's just not the purpose of that particular plugin right now, but it's not an unreasonable idea. Please submit your suggestion to https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Wow, this "discussion" went south when I looked awat for a few mins.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Ranrr, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: seems to happen from time to time
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once she didn't need anything, true colors came out
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Welcome to tech chan, Ranrr :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, once Saatai gets what she needs, she proceeds to flame anything that moves. Don't let it phase ya :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, not south, North, I asked a simple linux Aio question, and look what the dog dragges in.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: was i called an idiot for asking to make it numerical?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: i have no idea what ia happening anymore -___-
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no okami
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Okami: no.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: She wasn't directing that at you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: ok im going back to levling -____-
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Okami: do 'tech -h fiendish'
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Apparently, Abe, cheez and possibly me are the idiots right now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no Ranrr
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and neither are they.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, good.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger boggles at the concept.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr does the happydance with Saatai !
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Either someone got reprimanded, or you're multiplaying :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I am not multiplaying I value your input wether you think so or not.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and yes do I not like both of them, well I be lying is I say I loved them.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm just going to interject in this delightful conversation to point and laugh for a bit at -> (Debate) Xyliz: 'Pleaidas, were you born after 1985 (when CD digital replaced vinyl/cassette -- you likely are digitally-damaged from listening the digital music - missing mental-circuitry that never developped from lack of genuine analog recorded AAA music'
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Love's over-rated anyways.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but what I am looking at we are moving to Ubuntu 10.10, so I am tasked with the task of AiO printer.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes Cheeze it is
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and I do thank all those that answered so far.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am looking at Hp and Sharp, So far Hp has given me a reponse.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: look I just asked a legimate question, they want to take my head off, so be it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your head was taken off because of your personal attacks, not the question...we attempted to help with your question
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and yes you did Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: not taking my head off but answering my question.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i've seen it all, now - this HP laptop screen is attached to the plastic chassis with..... glue
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: i cant mete run campaign plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: can somone upload it for me please=?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: go to all the expense and annoyance of replacing the tft panel then the fepping screen cable falls apart
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: cue another 6 week search for a part
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: poxy pointless bloody laptops
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: ban them
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: i have problems with campaig plugin it doesnt work
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: can someone upload for me ? and said me www??
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: how to disable f1 in musclient in order to macro?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10712
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: global prefs -> general
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Midway Tech: somebody use campaign plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I use one, but there are many
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: would be sweet if dtrack could be customized to track incoming damage!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is it me, or is maxstats.maxstr/maxint/maxwis/maxcon/maxdex/maxstr/maxluck mislabeled? From what I can see, those all seem to be base stats, and your eq adds to them in chr.stats.str/etc. I would expect the char.maxstats values for those to be what the maximum I can train to is?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: maxstats is what your help maxstats total is
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no it's not, dokkar
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Doesn't seem to be.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: No it isn't, it's your pre-modified total
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: they're your base stat, and the value in char.stats is with spells/eq
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: IE, trained value
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: currently my stats.str is larger than what gmcp says my maxstats.str is. That's...an interesting way to do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Max == max trained, stats = trained + eq + spells
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So GMCP can't get me the numbers from maxstats, then. I guess I can calculate them if I care enough.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It depends on my mood tbh
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a nice mis, though. Works equally well for pretty much anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I believe the question was mac or pc?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cartman Tech: the question was how to you script, cli or gui :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Never either, always linux :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What with mushclient supporting, like, 7 scripting languages, I'm surprised we've avoided a VB script erses Java Script flamewar.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: erses rather
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nah everyone knows LUA is where it's at
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I learned lua so I could play WoW from within Aard.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the lag's horrible, though
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: LUA? Seriously? It combines all fo the bad things about C and JavaScript with all of the bad things about VB. I use it, but I don't think it's anywhere near where it is at. Or if it is there, I don't want it. Whatever it is.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I would preferer javascript over lua, if mushclient supported current version of it. As it is now, it's really poor.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: anyone know how to move your camera to a new section of land in dwarf fortress, i moved my vision away from the large square my fortress is in and i cnat seem to get back
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fastfinge, the advantage of lua, from an aard player perspective, is that you can use a single language for anything you're involved in on aard
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Where anything is defined as scripting mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no fastfinge
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Darn poo it's strange I have to agree with Abelinc on something.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the advantages of lua from a programming perspective are in that it was designed from the start to be embeddable
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fastfinge, aard itself has lua embedded into it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Agreed. So learning it means you can script a bunch of apps. That's why I use it over JS or VB or whatever.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so mprogs are written in lua, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most people on aard aren't people that program out of aard
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah, didn't know that. Assumed Aard was LPC/mushcode/whatever the mud code flavour of the week is.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they're going to be learning from scratch, from the perspective of using it on aard
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard is written in c
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not any codebase, it's Lasher's creation
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I thought was C++
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Used to be diku, no?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: used to be isn't is :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah okay. It looks kind of like a DIKU from a player POV, so I assumed it was.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's is an own codebase now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it had been a diku/merc/rom...it was writted from scratch as a workalike
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would explain where the credit banner went. :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: C is a first try at C++. C++ is a bugfix to get rid of embarassing/unaccounted for errors.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so when it transitioned to custom, players were still familiar
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lol, omfg
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, many would call c++ an abomination of c
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Actually I can't see why they would?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: The problem is always trying to compare c to c++.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Not an argument or so called, but I find C++ is pretty nice.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: feel free to move this religious discussion to debate....or any other channel that I don't really monitor.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fluffle Tyebald mercilessly, making his fur a terrible mess.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Sure. You monitoring newbie? JK
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: no, I'm not. can move it there if you want.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: it is the tech channel Tyebald so move your bottome to any channel you so desire.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anywho, back to catching up on 100 notes that seemed to appear out of nowhere :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I like the "thought model" of c++, but c gets to the point :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I downright straight to the point.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: nothing wrong with C at all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: C didn't do crap to protect the user. Beyond that, it's great.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Has anyone documented best practices for making a mushclient distro? I have some alpha quality code for screen readers, but my Aardwolf world is full of my password and mapper DB and so on. Wouldn't want to forget to kill something private, and I'm not sure I know what, and where, eerything is kept.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: c isn't for the user
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grizzler nod ableinc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fastfinge, put everything into plugin form
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Dokkar C wasn't designed to protect the user, that is the programmers responsiblity.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: user = programmer when talking programming languages.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you only have to distribute the plugin file
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: I love C
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Then I am sorry You not know how to use a complier.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Problem is, aliases and macros defined by plugins don't show up in the GUI. And I was hoping to avoid documentation.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never hope to avoid documentation
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put the documentation into the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they type something like vi-help and it gives them the help
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no need for documentation. All the aliases etc that plugins use are kept in the .xml file already
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You can't avoid the documentation.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that is true with any language.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I have over eighty aliases and a good 20 or 30 hotkeys. We're looking at more of a manual than a help listing at this point.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then how do you think you would've avoided documentation?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: may I ask for what?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Any language, document your code if you want someone else to readily understand what you are doing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saatai, mushclient for the blind
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Thank you Abelinc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: All of the aliases are labeled according to function. So pull up the GUI and it's self documenting.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can still make it just as self-documenting
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there are screen readers and experimental implants. What more do they wish for?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: screen readers that work with the program you're using
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you haven't used mush with a channel capture with a screenreader, keep your comment about the necessity to yourself :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: okies it's for the blind, why they need a GUI?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Because I can't stand remembering commands.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: they can't see the screen.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the gui exists whether they need it or not...they need to be able to work within its confines
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: because the programmer didn't see the point in maintaining a VI-compatible version.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: only asking Dokkar
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hmmm, although it looks like I can put these aliases in menus. I didn't know that. The wonders of reading manuals! I think I'll be okay.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or creating one to begin with, for that matter.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when he's saying bring it up in the gui, he means ctrl-shift-9 to list the aliases, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that they're using the gui itself in gui form
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ok I am stupid are you supporting all text readers?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are only a few main ones to worry about, really
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that would be silly, there's too many to be all-inclusive
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Jaws for Windows, Window Eyes, and any Nonvisual Desktop Access release after 2011.1 is what I've got support for right now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MS, jaws & I always forget the third, but ofcourse jaws really rules the market
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I know abelinc, but he can have there support staff to support what he is doing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Jaws is probably number 1
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and even then the tech will invariably improve faster than you're likely to keep up.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by far, in usage
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: especially if the company/developer works anything like MS and just changes stuff randomly every few versions.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: freedom scientific's got a pretty big stronghold on the marketplace, with jaws, openbook, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Okay, back in quiet mode while I stumble through this. Done lots of scripting for personal use in mushclient, never wanted to release any of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I am pretty happy to someone is taking the time to develope stuff for the biind.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Being blind, it's work I'm doing anyway.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know curi had worked on it for a bit before giving up on mush & going back to tf :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: What about coding with a config option to pipe things to espeak?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Never thought of that. Wouldn't using SAPI be better, though?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: cross platform - no one digging for "special" dollars
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: espeak works with sapi, and cross-platform is wholly-irrelevant when talking about scripting a windows program
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Well, if you are *only* talking about windows like linux, bsd, etc. and mac do not exist.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient compiles for windows only...running it under the others using emulation works, but the access to OS-level things like piping won't be the same
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Not going to argue about that :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: isn't mush windows client?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client, tinyfugue, compiles under unix/linux, windows, OSX, OS/2, etc...but you can't do external calls in the windows version (not sure about the os/2 version)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: If I were blind, windoze would be my last choice for an OS.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably not
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much easier to say that when you've got options available to you
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well if you was blind, You would find a lot is not available to you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It is. I'd rather OS X. But I need to know Windows if I want to work in nearly any office in the world. They all want Microsoft Outlook, or Lotus Notes. Both Windows only.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Yes, it is sad.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I have to ask this question, If you was blind, How would you know what is best for you as you would not have any idea what is available.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he peeked.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd go with what you have support available for
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I, in fact, do know what is available. I have access to a windows PC, a Linux machine, and an OS X macbook.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: which is windows
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Well, you can read about other operating systems versus windows where you need to look at pictures.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also a lot depends on when blindness set in
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can read?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then of course there's getting a reader to work in bios ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You used to be able to get them to send output to a printer, and then hook up a braille printer. But not so much anymore.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, my alpha uses a serial console :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I would really like to see windoze be usefull booting to a command line.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: who makes a braille printer anymore, I don't know of any?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Oh wait, that's coming after they finsih ripping off un*x.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Seeral companies make them.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: seattle public library's got a sweet ADA center with the braille pads below the keyboards, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Try no X with a reader. What could be better? Oh, media centers providing text output...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: No offense meant here, but the internet currently operates like a wheelchair ramp with cinder blocks in front of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I don't find it that bad, honestly. CAPTCHAs are a huge issue, but other than that, I can mostly get everything I want working to work.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most captchas have at least added a speak me
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, and it's so garbled you can't tell if it said 16 G 42 or my pants are on fire help.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Can you really read cnn, etc.?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I can't read I failed 1st grade.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: though I go for AP articles hosted on news.google.ca when I can, because the layout is so nice and clean. And full text RSS is a good thing, when I can get it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: But I can deal with CNN, if I must.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I have disabled their styling and have found most sites to be terrible.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I failed Kindergarden due to spelling issues when Abelinc slapped the back on my head too many times for aggrivating him.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, but a reader does more than disable styling.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You gasp as you realize what he did.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Very naughty Turie
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It can report on style information, disable some parts of style and not others, ignore iframes on some pages, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we found section508 compliance to be not that much of a change from our existing site
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mostly just being better about the descs we put into the alt tags
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Yeah, 508 compliance... Who would know what they can't see?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: biggest thing we had to do was create a page with descriptions of the entries in the slideshow on our front page
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Amusingly enough, slashdot is much harder to read than CNN. The site for tech people managed to do it almost all wrong, while the mainstream media site got it right.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: CNN probably gets more ADA lawsuit threats
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, but slashdot is supposed to be full of geeks and programmers. So one would think they'd just get it right, by default.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hahahahahahahaha
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, those who make more money have more to lose by noncompliance
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: right, because engineers always get interfaces right the first time
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: your on slashdot? I have to laugh now.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: geeks & programmers want to trick things out, not work on limiting things
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Well, no. But they usually get it wrong in an accessible way. You'd think seperation of style and content would be a no brainer for the people at slashdot, and hard for the managers at CNN to grasp. But apparently it's the other way round.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah. Mostly because the trolls amuse me.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, i'm cnn's managers don't maintain their website :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cnn's managers don't make their site...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'm sure, rather
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: left out a word
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if you want to abuse you self, I can send you a bat.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but the geeks on slashdot do make theirs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No, but it's usually the managers who drive inaccessible things like pop-under advertising and AJAX scrolling comment systems etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you hire out your site to a truly-professional company, it'll be accessible
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The geeks, other than the ones in charge of slashdot, usually aren't quite as interested in being flashy and stupid.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: lotta faith
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (but not all professional web design shops are really professional...bargain shopping isn't advised)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Doesn't slashdot offer a built in read ability?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: is he on dope?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I want some of that poo crap.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: eww, saatai wants poo :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: He recycles, extremely.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Slashdot offers CAPTCHAs, and dynamic scrolling threaded comments of strangeness that mean unless I sign up for an account, getting someone to help with the signup captcha, and go and change to classic comment system, I can't read slashdot comments at all, ever.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that makes me believe you not able to read at all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Not surprising, slashdot has gone the way of the toilet for a while.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you do know you can change the language
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Slashdot gave up being a geek for looking like a geek a long time ago.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, it has. But I haven't found a better place to discuss putting things down Natalie Portman's pants...I mean...tech news.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: LOL, LMAO
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Okay, I don't want to argue with anyone anymore. I'm tired. What would be nice is if we could come up with an open, cross-platform, way to do things that could be built in to any software. Oh, so dreamy, but so practical.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: who is argueing?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You're scaring me. I'm having Java flashbacks!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you asked your question, we did the best to answer said question.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: You're right Saatai. We aren't arguing. I think the screen reader packages are a bad way to go though. Why not have built in options to an espeak like system? Why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: built into what?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes I would have the options.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Agreed. I'll stick in SAPI.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sapi is already a built-in option to espeak like systems
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Only with MS.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: But many of us would rather use our screenreader, than have a different TTS system in mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: and mushclient only works in MS. So we're good.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I hope you support a linux system also.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mushclient works in linux just fine
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: And being only MS mean I quit this mud. Good bye all.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish, not for low system calls
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Mush works in wine.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in wine isn't running on the OS
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you want to write TTS support for Linux, be my guest. I don't mud on linux, so I can't and therefor won't.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in, not on
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I won't be installing TF on the company webserver to play with it, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if a mac program runs through Rosetta, it isn't not running in Mac OS
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you say so, fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I will say I've never tried using a screen reader though, so I don't know if that works
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that's a Mac, how many actually use a mac to do anything?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I use Mac to do a lot of things. Actually one of those things is to run MUSHclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: saatai, more than use linux
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: probably so Abelinc, but would not be an Os I would chose.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: another one of those things is to stream netflix movies
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because moonlight sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody asked you to choose it, though :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're requesting him to support linux, though
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no they didn't
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I guess technically microsot sucks for not supporting a more open drm
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, I am just asking, what he does is him.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: By the way Fiendish, do you have an out of game email address or something? Need a good way to get you these files some time next week.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: finger me
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fiendish has a site
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, I always lol when I read that email :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh. I just assumed that email was a fake MYOB style thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: people always ask for my email address because they think it's fake. it's not fake. it's bloody real.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it's not fake
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, fiendish is a big fan of addresses that always make you hesitate before going there ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I mean, are you gonna trust a site that says notporn?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: notporn is owned by a german squatter who wants $1000. bastards.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ouch, you totally lost it?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no, I've always had the hyphenated form
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, gotcha
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I feel sorry for you fiendish. Do your emails get filed in the spam folders of everyone else on earth? LOL. I mean, nothing with the word porn gets through company firewalls these days.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I feel bad for any company with an IT department so incompetent as to filter based on a word in the address field
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't think he's using that domain for business communications
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: also it's just a redirect for one of my gmail accounts
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: My university did that! All the time! To staff and students! And then blocked external IMAP and POP serers! I didn't feel sorry for them. Hatred was more the word I'd pick.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fiendish is using that for business, I not think so.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And then they gave us access to local NNTP servers that had all the alt.binaries groups. Go figure.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.lesbian.turtles
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not-porn.com isn't in any of the 100 blacklists at http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not-porn doesn't send any email
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it could :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: maybe it should!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no it don't Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It wouldn't be. Content filters just blacklist on the word porn. It wouldn't get in a DNSBL.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yourmom@not-porn.com has a certain ring to it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I find it hard to believe that any content filter that isn't completely broken would just block something from not-porn.com because it has the word porn in it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: trust me, Fiendish sites are very safe.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not about being broken, it's about being configured by someone paranoid
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: or a lawyer.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the content filter just does what it's told
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: about the only thing unsafe about my site is the wording of the WTFPL
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What bout notot-porn.com. The double negative means you can send porn, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fiendish I love your site
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm particularly fond of my front page
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, yeah, that took me by surprise when you changed it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: WebSense is nearly always configured to be that broken.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we use websense, but don't do anything word-based
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: When I was in catholic high school, a site hosting the King James Bible got blocked for having the word ass.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: he changed it?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the site used to have a slightly different structure before I moved to a new host
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I can't delete.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: so
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though the page at http://www.not-porn.com/ has always been the same
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that won't help you delete
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: thats what she said
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Talleron raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: might help with nochan, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on it hasn't, fiendish...it used to go to just RPI's cs
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: fuck
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: not my tpye grizzler
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Grizzler is having a stroke?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, nvm, I think I'm confusing the root with non-cap aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think you're thinking of the broken link page
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh speaking of which. I need a custom 404 page.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, now they got rid of the RPI custom 404
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: never quite understood why people had to "delete". just don't log in again. it's not like the name you burn was so hyper popular that the rest of the world will cry themselves to sleep over not being able to use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you're not hosted there anymore, that'd explain it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah. I moved to nearlyfreespeech.net
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I got tired of the RPI CS servers always going down. I know I can't complain about really fast, free hosting, but it was getting ridiculous.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't blame ya...aside from not going there anymore, they'd had problems a lot at the end
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: weeks of downtime toward the end got me to switch. the hosting size and traffic is low enough that NFS is like a dollar or two per year. I can spare a cup of coffee every year.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I've deleted from muds before, but mostly when I had a serious problem with the administration. And that was only so the loyal players would see I had made a statement when they tried to look me up in the ranking list and I was gone.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: god damn you can't just delete your shit here?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: read 'help delete'
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: poo?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just freeze you can't come back :)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: help delete
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: er....what fiendish said.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Wait. Is Grizzler seriously deleting because I don't want to add linux support to my TTS package? And he isn't even blind? ROFL!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I dunno man. I can't imagine that that's why.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hope not. But that's what we were talking about when he had his delete stroke.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Nope. I already destroyed my char. It's because this mud thinks MS is the way to go when MS is a pile of shit.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish boggles at the concept.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Uh,, Grizzler? I am not "this mud". I'm me.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Can you hurry up and delete Gizzler. The whining is making my eyes hurt.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You mean the people who are playing right now, and talking on the tech channel....I doubt this mud has any official position on the matter.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: What? This mud runs on any client, and mushclient runs in wine on linux
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Seriously? The game runs on a linux machine and MUSHclient works just fine in Linux, dude.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: wine wine wine...fucking wine
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not to mention the great mudlet package that's detailed on the wiki
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: and this channel isn't official tech support, it's just a geek chat forum in the mud
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: it's also not an x-rated channel.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this is not a curse channel. please stop.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: It's like the bastard shit for people that don't give a shit...wine...you use wine? You suck.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: OOOOKAY, Richard.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Right. But because I don't want to add Linux support to a TTS package for Aardwolf Mushclient that I'm writing, obviously all of you are Microsoft lovers and the entire mud hates Linux and kills free software programmers for fun. Go away.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Again, try telnet or mudlet
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Gizzler, you're kind of a let down. All this big talk about deleting and no follow through. You're becomming mainstream brah.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wine is so good with a Linux Steak.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: I can't delete.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so just leave
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: we don't care what happens to your character
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: but you can freeze. though, apparently, you can't read.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Type quit... and never come back. Same basic principal.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Nah, I'll wait until someone fucking bans my IP.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: hey Grizzler, can you take TomCruise with you when you go? THANKS!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: way to be an adult
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: "freeze self over 9000" will be the equivalent of a delete
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dugrant enthusiastically high-fives Fiendish!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: God, I want to suck Balmer's dick.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: so....you can't delete. and because one command isn't available to you, you've decided that everyone must suffer. on the plus side, one command this mud DOES have is 'ignore'.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian nods at Tyebald.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: did that one awhile ago ;)(
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Grizzler You should prefix all the messages to god with the pray command. They'll help you, I'm sure.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: LOL
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: If there's one thing that I've always said about Grizzler, it's that he enriches our lives... with the lack of his presence.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You could tell Lasher you are a bot. He might nuke you.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go Tyebald!!! Kinjin cheers him on.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "recreate" permits the name to be reused by the password-owner of the character (atteched to the name)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I'd vote for ghosting.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'd honestly rather see him NOT get nuked. Clearly it causes him more distress that way.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald nods at Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: Ehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: No distress, sorry guys.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: i'm just curious why he only uses the tech channel trying to get banned lol
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't nuke him. and change his desc and finger info to "I love Windows"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Good one.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tyebald laughs at Fiendish mercilessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, I wuv windors is better.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Or better, "Windoze is for idiots."
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Wow, I guess I can't be bad enough to get banned. I don't have it in me.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're just not that important
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: dude use gossip or something if you want that sort of attention
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Swearing on channels isn't going to get you banned, more likely gagged.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Grope Fiendish. he might help you if you are that willing.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie runs away from Fiendish in utter terror and horror!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hell, tech -h windows
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grizzler Tech: Ah well, I'll quit fucking around. A lot of good people here :) I just can't deal with the tech side of where this op is going. Peace out guys and have FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Linux is the wtg if only Linux was not run by arrogant nerds that believed that all nonpaying LInux users were suppoosed to be tech-savy-geeks that read reams of manuals and screeds of source-code to get answers ... xchan
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've just had an error from the mushclient mapper, aardmapper.lua line 1305 attempt to index a nil value, when I try to go to a specific room, seems ok otherwise, anyone got any idea what might be causing it?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: More on the previous error, it seems to happen whenever I try to go to a room which shows as 'could not find a path to' in the mapper find results
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that has already been fixed in the latest development version
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: "so nerr"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can either download the latest snapshot from the google code site, or wait for an official update announcement from lasher next month
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, no problem, now I know it's nothing serious like a broken database, I think I'll just live with it, thanks for the reply
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz ponders he there reason(s) that "Yell" is not listed on Channels
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: not really a channel, is it
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yell isn't a channel. it has no history
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: neither do dtell, ptell, but they're channels.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hm. fair enough. yell still isn't a channel.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: tell that to other muds without a history option: "you got no channels since there is no history"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oh, neither does racetalk
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's dtell and ptell?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: defender and raider channels
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Yell is a channel restricted to an area
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not any more than say is a channel
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: technically, "Say" is a channel restricted to a room
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Also say has tags, is technically a channel, and uses history the same as yell
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "echo" is a channel restricted to a single player
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: say doesn't use history
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it says '-h' just like yell does
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: saying '-h' is not the same as using history. it is in fact as different as you can get from using history
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: But i'm saying it does the same thing as yell, but say has tags to be captured.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a history option on echo may be convenient :) "but beware, big brother may be watching"
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: suggest (not use -h) to activate the echo history, use echoh ##|filter
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz suggests that instead of "channel -h", "channelh" to activate the history options - discuss the merits of being lazy and discarding this astute suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know a good IR transmitter that works off USB?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Arduino
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon blinks innocently.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hehe, that seems like overkill for changing the channel of a cable box.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone here experienced with LIRC? Am I going to be screwed using one USB IR reciever to recieve remote control signals, and one serial transmitter to transmit IR signals?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anybody here use dvorak keyboard layout?
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, but iot will take them 5 minutes to answer
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagnir's been using dvorak for a few years
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But seriously, was wondering what people's thoughts were on dvorak layout
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone forward my statement to her :P
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dugrant Tech: I tried it a few times... never found the time to master it though.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Look at Colemak
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: hmm...on windows 7 i can't scroll the main mush window with my mouse wheel
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: it's most likely your mouse drivers, i'm on xp and it's the same for me too.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sakon Tech: i have a cheapy GE mouse that has it's own driver i installed to run the extra stuff for the extra buttons it has, if i close that program i can scroll the main window then
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: interesting...i need to fix this once I get my real final laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, definitely something funky on your end...I just plugged a $3 generic mouse into my laptop and the main window in mush scrolled fine (on W7)
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's as Sakon said above - when a mouse installs non-generic drivers that problems crop up
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: how do I hide invmon tags that show up whenever my eq changes? I'm not sure which plugin added it in.
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type invmon
T3/r3/2011-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or reload an inventory plugin if you have one
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: hey guys
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hey tzar :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: USB PornStick is a self-executable program within a USB drive that will detect explicit images on almost any type of media.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that sounds, umm, useful
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: so im talking with a friend, and i said, if i use a my own usb stick with portable apps on it. it'd totally defeat the pornstick
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: that make sense?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, usb pornstick isn't all it's cracked up to be
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: portable apps wouldn't really make a difference, though...it's not looking for apps, it's looking for image files with fleshy tones in them
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: nodnod. then again the disccusion with my friend is rendered moot... its not safe to use the work computer to surf porn or personal stuff, due to keylogging or whatever else they might have.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: your work uses keyloggers?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so does yours, as far as you know }:>
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Heh, since i work at a bowling alley and manager/run the computer systems, they don't :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, as far as you know...
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy running the computer system isn't necessarily the one installing the keylogger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: This is true, but since i use my own home computer (except for the score board system) i'm 100% positive they don't ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: you ever leave your computer alone at work o.O
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hell no
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as the discussion is regarding the work computer, you're still not 100% positive they don't
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I got some, umm, contraversial stuff on it, i wouldn't do it :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're only positive that you're not impacted, not that they don't
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: They probably drugged you, then put a keylogged on your pc so they could steal your Aard scripts imo
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it's easier to do that than it is to go to his website for them ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: 0h 10
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: oh the joy they will have to sort thru a btard's computer.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeilhuitl Tech: the amount of scat and gore they will have to face. i think they might quit their job instead.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, "Blur" Option Protects You From Seeing Unwanted Images
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hi anyone uses mush here pls and have zmud knowledge?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: can someone help me make a trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Client?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: triggers are bad :-(
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: Aardwolf's mushcilent
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What kind of trigger?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: i ust want to hold my portal, enter it then hold my other item and again
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that would be an alias
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: help alias
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: ahh
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: of course it is
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol don't be
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: You can do that with a mudside alias, like Farkyss mentioned, but if you want to make one alias that will take an argument and wear that portal, then you'd need to make one client side since the mud can't handle arguments in multicommand aliases yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: got it, sorry about that sunday's. i put aca then, the holds portal, enters then hold my other item again
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: An alias in MUSHclient, look at this website please. http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9616 It is for a targetting alias, but covers the setup for making an alias.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Welcome.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: is there a way to make a trigger with selected text, not multiline, with MUSHclient like the way you can create a multiline trigger?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't understand the question, what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I want to make my computer beep at me when cetain things happen. I can do this manually for the most part but if I select text and right-click there is an option on the context menu to create a multi-line trigger based on that selected text.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I just wondered if I was missing something that would allow me to do the same only not in multi line.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: for the mapper plugin on the aardwolf client, when using the custom exit feature, can I have custom exits that are like "shop buy 1;open up", for areas such as the first ascent? I mean, will it accept multiple commands?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: copy the line, go to Game->Configure->Triggers, make a trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't do it from the popup menu, just copy the text and then create a new trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: okay thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Tezaal: yes, put ;; between the commands
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Bast: is there a way to add multiple spells to your spellup list?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: got it, thanks bast
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: using your V6 spellup plugin, previously, you could do spellup + blah,blah2,etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast bsp sadd
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: put single quotes around spells with multiple words
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Bast, bsp fast does not seem to do anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, you are correct, when did that break? let me look
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: has anyone else noticed the plugin freezes after fighting a bunch of mobs?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic shakes his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, just type bsp refresh to get it going again.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tezaal Tech: ahh awesome,t hanks
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no problems with freezing here, if you see a waiting spell on the miniwindow, you can also click on that and it will refresh
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kurojiryuu: when are you using bsp fast? It will only cast spells that aren't already on
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Yeah, I tried it when it had spells queued.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: It's alright though, I just use refresh now instead.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ahh, then it was probably stuck, it uses the same checks to cast as the rest of the plugin, so if things are queued and aren't being cast, then fast won't work
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Ah I see.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: How often does it get stuck?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: not too sure, now and then it occurs.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there a command I can use to reload a plugin after it errors?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mushclient, that is, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using my plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Nope, it's for the mapper plugin, there's a small bug in there that's fixed in the latest development ver but I don't want to risk it while things are running well here :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Press control+shift+p, select the plugin you want to reload, then press alt+i.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Thanks, I'm doing that already but that's quicker than using the mouse :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lytebane: Did you type mapper find while in the middle of a runto?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Nope, mapper find on a room with no found paths...fiendish confirmed it's a known bug and fixed in the latest development release
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: In fact, mapper goto, sorry :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am not talking about that. I mean if you type mapper goto blah and then type mapper goto blah which running. It will cause it to error.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not had that, but might be the same bug, since mid-runto it'd probably not be able to find a path to it
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't use goto in the middle of a goto run, because it has no baseline to calculate the path from
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not exactly a bug
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know Fiendish. I did it by accident one day.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: No, not really a bug, I just wondered if there's a quick command I can use to reload the plugin without having to go into dialogs and click stuff :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: to reload the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yep
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think there is, actually. hold on
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: type "reload aardmapper"
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh. wrong map
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "reload mapper" that's it
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: reload aardmapper does the ascii map
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What is IRE.Composer in my cmud protocols list?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not related to aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Iron Realms something-or-other? Can I remove it?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: IRE stands for Iron Realms Entertainment. sure
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: That is the Ascii Map.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "reload mapper" should do the gmcp mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see the file aard_helper_aliase.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see the file aard_helper_aliases.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anyway I gotta run
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: I just did it and it was Ascii Map.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I just did it and it's the gmcp map :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper or aardmapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: other questions -> personal board. later.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: reload mapper is reloading the GMCP mapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what fiendish said :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: He said reload aardmapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read again, and read further
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Then he corrected himself and said just 'mapper'
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I missed that statement. It happens.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: While I'm asking stuff, has anyone had very rare stalls on the bast spellup plugin? Any ideas what might cause them? I've not had one since remorting so might be related to certain spells
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Mainly seems to happen if I sleep at the same moment as it's trying to cast, but I've had it at other times too
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I fixed the sleep bug in the next release
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Great, thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why is cmud causing xterm colors to appear washed out when I use them on a channel?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Works fine on echo
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: test
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They are not on main yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmmm, it appears to be related to whether or not I have the channel set to a bright or not-bright color...
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i mean, aard shouldn't be bandwith-hungry
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: we're already at zlib 9
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: is there some way to diable a triger group from another trigger without have to access some scriptfile? I wan't to disable a group or groups of truggers when I go to sleep.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have those triggers pay attention to your gmcp position
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or have a plugin that disables and reenables the group as your position changes
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I don't even now what gmcp is. thanks anyway. I guess I will just have to live with the noise.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: help gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nadir, what client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcp is the absolute best way to know whether you're sleeping or not...
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or pinch your arm
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I am using the Aardwolf client.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: MUSHclient that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use a trigger for it, but it's redundant when the client already knows your position
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ah, alas, I use cmud, and know nothing about MUSH
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i tried to get into mush and no go lol
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to look at MUSHclient's help on "EnableTriggerGroup"
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: alas I unce new Zmud intimately. RL intervened and when I came back Cmud was the rage. I got it but to be honest I don't want to "learn" another client, I just want to play.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll down to the Lua example, copy/paste that
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know coding, but I find MUSH to be nice for using basic aliases and triggers.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you knew zmud, then cmud will be no problem for you
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change "groupname" to the name you gave to the group of each of those triggers you wanted to enable/disable
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There are some differences in the scripting engine, but it's just as easy as zmud was.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: I have already been to the help site and copied/pasted and it sent it to the mud.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: cmud is actually an improvement of zmud allowing a bit more control
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to send it to the MUD, these are client things
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want to send it to script
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Now if only Zugg would do a major bug cleanup
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That would be a worthwhile endeavor.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Change the 'send to' to 'script'
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta cram in more features instead, starling
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: yea:P if he did I'd go back to using zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there will never be a bug cleanup of zmud, miasmatic :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess 3.34 is supposedly a bug fix update, but IMHO he needs to do more than that and clean it up extensively from top to bottom.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i know the mapper could use some work
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: close that's what I was looking for. Thanks Cheezburger
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient with Fiendish and Spartacus's extensive modification has created a nice mapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh sure, nevermind that I said it 10 seconds earlier :P
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You sulk.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic comforts you.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nadir Tech: Thanks to ALL that provided that answer.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc is having a moment to himself.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, just playing around :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for those who want to see what all the new colors look like and have the Aardwolf MUSHclient, see http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/256Xterm
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: using the xterm colors requires a version of the aardwolf mushclient from March 30 or later
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Is there a way in MUSHClient plugins to call a function in a different plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look in Bast's plugins.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ross Tech: Anyone know how to put a carriage return into an echo in tf? I briefly poked around the help files but I'm not sure what precisely I'm looking for to find it
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the echo is terminated by a CR
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each line you want will be a new /echo
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ross Tech: ah, okay, so I'll just do another echo then. Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /echo line one %; /echo line two
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a better spellup script for cmud than davo's
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it's call MUSHclient and then use mine ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aside from davos's stuff, browse the script repository in cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i have looked there and didnt see any thing
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I have to redo mine (accidentally overwrote the backup with an empty file post-reformat) and haven't bothered to yet
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: been busy hammering out a map/speedwalk package and distracting myself with a notes/channels/info package.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My god, why don't they make the space cadet keyboard anymore? That thing is cool.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: is there a way to do settings where my arrow keys could me mapped to movement? I dont have a number pad
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: mmushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just a min
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: I looked at macros but it doesnt list arrows as a posibility
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Arrow keys do command history, as God intended.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: I would set comm history to shift-arrow
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: use the num pad for dir
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he doesn't have a numpad, Akuri
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: read, laptop, no easily accessed numpad.
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=Accelerator
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: thanks Ill check that out
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Read Anadorr's link, but if you want to test it out, put Accelerator("up","north") into Game->Immediate
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: well it works for left and right, but not up and down. The webpage said it would overwrite all other macros assigned to the keys in the mushclient. However it is not overriding the text up and down history setting
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Instead of overriding those macros, use ctrl+wasd
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: \its good info though, I can map it somewhere else :)
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: now another question.... is there a macro I can make to k any mob in room
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: illegal
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leopardfist Tech: oh ok
T3/r3/2011-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you'd have to use an AOE or scrape the info off aard using a couple of triggers (at least, will probably be a few more)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using Bast's spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do you add a clanskill to the list?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't yet without modifying the script
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay. thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I can add it but it tells me its not learnt =(
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's the code you have to change
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah I see.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: basically add a special case to the check
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: anyone know why a #PSUB in cmud would be almost consistently returning the wrong first five characters of the line? it's your standard channel tags capture trigger, with #PSUB {} %x1
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I say "almost consistently" because very occasionally, it'll do the right thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: psub was always janky in zmud. maybe zugg never learned.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: seems to work for others, so I was hoping someone might have an idea of some "magic" setting/flag I was missing.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Fiendish, have you noticed the bug where the spellup plugin gets stuck if you interupt it while it is casting?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i don't tend to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah but even if you kill one mob, then while it is firing you target another, it gets stuck
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I have not noticed anything like that
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh okay
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: apparently, it's having "ANSI Trigger" set.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ....which I had previously needed, in order to be able to copy text using #WIN inside the trigger. switched to using #CAPTURE, to get the new color codes (#WIN would only do the ANSI equivalents). apparently the ANSI codes throw off the "count", I guess.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: just FYI, for anyone else running into this.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: sheesh, I get distracted by implausible Syfy movies for a few hours and completely miss entire conversations...
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: In MUSHClient, 'Save World Details' is what saves the mapper data?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: actually, no
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: What does, please.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though it's not a terrible idea to make that flush everything
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure I understand the reason for the question
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Unexpected loss of power, etc. caused disconnects that lost mapper data. I want to know how to manually save the mapper data.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is a backup mechanism
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Mapper help?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see 'mapper help'. there are both manual and automatic backups
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Armenia nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: OK, I must be daft, or the mapper help is truncating. I see nothing about backups, manual or automatic. A sepcific command for manual backup would be?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Scroll up
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And the command is what you would assume - mapper backup
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suggest also using "mapper backups on"
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Nope. 'That is not a command'. How do I tell what version of the mapper plugin I have?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: clearly too old of a version
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list has the latest development snapshot. or go to aardwolf.com and get the official April 2011 release
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: How about putting version info in the plugin info someday.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: how about you read AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not going to update every plugin version number every time I make a change
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that got old before I finished thinking about it
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Does anyone know anything about Xterm 256 color support? I can't find any information on how/whether-or-not the MUD uses this support.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: it's not working yet, I think
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: experimental
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's working with new version of mush
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: try 'xterm'
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Well it DOES display in orange, so I think it works, but I gather that the mud simply doesn't utilize it at all? So no point in turning it on?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not at the moment afaik
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Okay. Thanks for your reflections. I appreciate the input.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: test port boards might hold some info
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: I'm not advanced enough to even know what that means. lol I just started yesterday.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: But I hope that they implement some cool colors using Xterm support in the near future. It would be awesome for differentiating different things on my prompt and such.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: nothing wrong with the current colors
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: you can differentiate the hell out of your prompt already
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Oh no, didn't mean to imply that. Just...enhancement is alwasys nice.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: always
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i'll stick with classic colors, thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starfinder Tech: Sure, of course. To each thier own.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I'm changing all my output to black.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: SRrr . zom
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: iw'y yhid nryyrt?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone uses the potion quaffer plugin on Bast's site?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Is there a way to set rooms as noportal in the Aardclient mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: can anyone help me with my hunt trigger on mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What do you want to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: after i type what creature i want to hunt, i want it to move and then hunt the creature again
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: like say i had to hunt a bug, i would type hunt bug, and then the trigger will move, and then rehunt that bug
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: why don't you download one of the hunt plugins that already exist for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Okami Tech: there are hunt plugins?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: search www.mushclient.com forums, see the links on help www
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That would be a much better idea because implementing what you want requires a few different triggers and can be quite complicated
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: wow after my client crashed my Bast plugins are giving me a ton of errors
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: any idea how to fix it? I tried restarting the client a few times already.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: try reinstalling just the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: alright thanks =D
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: also make sure that there is a mark before the colon as default command separator, that did it for me once
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: this command separator is below game, configure, commands menu
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Anyone know how the automated database backup works in the latest mushclient? I've been getting a folder created occasionally called 'Program', and I think it might be the automated backup that's doing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I believe so.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: In the MUSH client is there a way to route the newbie channel so it only appears in the communication log?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope not automatically or part of the configuration options anyways....of course it is probably doable, just not without getting into the code itself.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: ok thanks much
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can make it so all channels only appear in that log though by turning echo off.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: how do I do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Right click on the communcation log to bring up the menu and then click turn echo off.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Knotts Tech: thanks so much!
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish: I don't think so, I don't write anything to files with the spellup plugins, but maybe saving the state can do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wrong channel, but I doubt it
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: just tried to install aardmushclient: Unable to connect to "Aardwolf", code = 10060 (Connection timed out)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: make sure your computer is plugged into the internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: i LOVE that suggestion with tech support.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: Error occurred during phase: Connecting to world: 208.43.193.234, port 4010
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. I'm playing Aardwolf now.. so, I think my computer is in fact connected to the internet
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is it possible you have a firewall that is blocking Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. perhaps.. I'm currently playing via an ssh connection to an account on another machine :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: lessee if this gannon.au site has a hint for me
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Audreyiv: Press the enter button when on that page and see what happens.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: The connection to Aardwolf is not open? Attempt to reconnect? I said yes
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: same results
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Audreyiv: You are not connected to the internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the crappy external mccp won't stay loaded unless an active internat connection is present -- the (expletive-deleted) that coded that is accorded only begrudging grattitude (and a perhaps a slow horrible death)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz: Be Quiet with that garbage.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. I have a browser running just fine... where's that coming from? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And the browser is running on the machine you are SSHing into?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz peers at Turie, and ponders "is Turie guilty of that that defective mccp implementation"
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: running the browser directly on the laptop here, where I'm trying to run the mushclient.. the SSH connection is only running mcclient to aard
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm... tracert goes as far as my dslrouter, and then dies ... though the browser is still really happy
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm... lots of different sites: Domain Name server is happy, but the timeout occurs at the dslrouter... I wonder why the browser is still so happyl... different port?
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package tries to connect to aardwolf on port 4010
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Exciting... Microsoft Outlook is filtering Microsoft emails to junk email... They designed their junk filter quite well!
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: edit the config to use port 23 instead, maybe
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: cool, they finally did something right
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Open up Aardwolf.mcl in Notepad and find the line port="4010" . Change the 4010 to 23 and see what happens.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or just press Alt+1 to bring up the connection config window
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Forgot about that.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I feel tiny.
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: okay.. did the Alt+1 and set to 23... tried to reconnect.. says it connected.. and that's as far as it got.. no connection closed, no request for character name :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: that's a little better.. I am now running the mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: now I have to figure out how to arrange my screen :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: anyone using CMUD know how to trigger the request quest command to resend comm.quest info via GMCP?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I can only tell you for mushclient, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SuperCow Tech: how do you do it in MUSH? maybe that will give me a clue to what I need to enter in my command in CMUD
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 'sendgmcp request quest'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How do I add notes to [?] rooms in the GMCP mapper? They just disapper when I enter them
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: mapper notes?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Right click a room?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The room does not exist any more on the mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Then you can't make a note, probably
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: For example, Aylor is gone from my world map
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aylor isn't a room
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: True, but is there any way to add something to the blank space?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no, that's ridiculous
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a blank space is not a room
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why do you want to add notes to area entrances anyway?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I just don't like the blank space where an area entrance is supposed to be
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But if it's not doable, I'm completely ok with that too
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so download the latest development snapshot and turn on the bigmap view
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I like the new bigmap view for continents anyway. not only is it prettier than drawing the connected rooms, but it's actually faster too.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suppose I wouldn't have added it if I didn't like it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How do I turn on bigmap?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: when was the last time you downloaded a new version of the aardwolf mushclient package?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Maybe 3 days ago
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that should be new enough. do you see something when you type 'bigmap help'?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The bigmap shows up
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh. sorry. go here: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and download that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's a newer version than what is on aardwolf.com
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: That's what I downloaded - I would even go svn if I could get off my lazy butt
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then you must have not used the new world file, is that right? did you keep your old world file?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Perhaps - I overwrote everything on accident, but that could have stayed
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you do ctrl+shift+p do you see Aardwolf_Bigmap_Graphical by authors Fiendish and Nick Gammon?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Nope - that would be my problem, I guess
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well I tell you what. go ahead and download the newest download from the link I posted
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because it does fix a few minor bugs with xterm color handling
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I just added the plugin - I did 'bigmap
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what do you see with bigmap help?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I did 'bigmap' and it told me bigmap enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But bigmap help is giving me no joy - still just the bigmap
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that means you're using the wrong plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this one is not the one released by bast
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if it doesn't have my name in the author field, then it's not the right one
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How do I upgrade MUSH without losing everything?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: define "losing everything"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: aliases, triggers, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: follow the instructions on the aardwolf.com download page for upgrading. just don't get the download from there.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Gotcha
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Lemme go do this real quick, will be right back
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, I'm on with a vanilla version, and bigmap help shows something
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: good
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: now type 'bigmap on'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Did that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: now walk into a continent
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: is it in a different window or same as gmcp mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Wow, looks nice!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Do you keep it merged or do you unmerge it?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I keep it merged
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, thanks a lot for walking me through that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh. also you should type "mapper backups on" if you don't already have automatic backups enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'll remember to do that once I copy my files over
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Although I think vanilla already enables backups
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't remember if I set backups to be on by default
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, I'll do it to be safe - thanks again!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can type "mapper backups" to check, I think
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Enabled by default
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Every day
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's actually a graduated schedule. one from yesterday. one from a week ago, one from a month ago, one from 3 months ago. approximately
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: assuming you leave mushclient running all the time or run it once a day
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you install bast's plugins. just make sure you don't overwrite my bigmap file
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and please report any problems
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, I seem to have lost my old spellup plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: probably from Bast's package
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Added Bast's but spellup help doesn't show anything anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it probably requires something else to be loaded too?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Will try things out
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure what could be the problem because I'm not using the miniwin version
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: really? I like the miniwin version
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't like not seeing my spell count
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Adding it bugs MUSH out like crazy, and doesn't configuring it take helluva long time?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: not that long, and I haven't had many problems
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup, runtime errors on enable
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you should submit those errors to bast
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: are the errors just things like such and such file isn't loaded yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Looks like the two spellups plugins were conflicting - removed the nonworking nonminiwin version and now it works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ah cool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Thanks for all your help
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: what is the download address for aard mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I do not recommend just downloading the mapper on its own
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: anyone still have their prodigy account?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: how do I nest an alias within an alias for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try Execute("aliasname")
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: "Send to: execute" in the alias detail screen
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm should I send it to world?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: I guess not
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Why do you need to nest aliases?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: send the inner alias wherever you like, but the outer (all of them if you nest more) must be sent to execute
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: because I'm trying to figure out how I can have area sws linked to the automapper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: but I dont know any scripting language
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Can't help you there, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: entopee: one good reason is alias for containers... I have my bags named 1.clam, 7570337, ... (legacy from another mud), and then I have alias to get potion from bag and quaff it. That must be sent to execute to resolve the container name
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan blushes.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: hmm nothing is working:P Execute ("aliasname") or GetAlias ("aliasname") and so on seem to go straight to the mud without being evaluated even though I'm sending to execute
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: which suggestion are you using? Execute or Send to execute? you shouldn't do both
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you want to use Execute("alias"), you should send to script
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: if you Send to Execute, follow Huan's suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: ok thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: also, read this, its actually a very good tutorial: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=6030
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: What was that thing for the battle report?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: nevermind, dtrack. I remember
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I am still not sure what are you trying to do... "link area sws to automapper" is too vague. Both suggestions are for normal aliases... make alias match on STTNG and send portal commands, and then make alias ULTIMA that first sends STTNG and then runs through vidblain (I know ultima was replaced, can't remember better example)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: well basically it would be awesome if I could get a script that identifies the start of every area (could be manual when I'm in the room) and then writes the speedwalk to an array with the area name as the key, so I can just alias something to call the key and run to the area. rt doesn't exactly find the shortest distance between two points
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: so... you are trying to do something similar to runto command, but with automapper? And without scripting knowledge?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: yes (: which is why I just decided to alias an area name to the room id so I can alias something for mapper goto "id". i.e. an alias within an alias.:P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you want a custom runto commands that uses your shorter speedwalk if available or fallback to the game speedwalk if nothing has been configured, is that correct?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: try alias: "STTNG", Send: "mapper goto 1966", Send To: Execute
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: ranrr yea that's something I would be considering as well
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: thanks Huan. I suppose that will do as well
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's actually how I implemented it myself (in tt++), so I can fill up with custom speedwalks as I find them.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Miasmatic nods at Ranrr.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it can be be done in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I've setup a script that will test for known speedwalks adn if it doesn't
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it will pass the handled destination to aards runto command
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: runto only works from aylor, using mapper can be much shorter if it has good database and can consider tricks like port yourself to aard hotel
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm rarely in that level of hurry that i don't need to recall first to get where i'm going.. but that being said i never win global quests either :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm... when my mouse cursor hangs out over my main mushclient window, it occasionally brings up a little thing that says "A Misty Path" (like appears on the mapper window) even though I haven't been in FT2 for over an hour...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If I have a string of words and spaces, what's an easy way to loop through the words in lua?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (I should know this)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nvm, got it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spoke Tech: Is there any MUSH plugin to manage eq-dbase for leveling purposes out there?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: are these 'memory metal' eyeglass frames with the twistable titanium wire inside really that much more durable than regular ones?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: durable is not the right word
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I prefer flimsy and prone to getting out of alignment
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its the word the 37 year old overly well dressed fat guy at lenscrafters at the mall used
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I've seen lots of them break.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I've BROKEN 2 pairs of my own
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: breaking would be bad. hmnn
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't want my glasses to flex and bend
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i guess i'll stick with regular frames then.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he was probably getting a comission on the higher cost frame.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The frames themselves are not so bad, but the temptation to twist and bend them overcomes any flexibility they might have had
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spoke Tech: Does anybody know if there is a public plugin for eq-database / leveling eq sorting, for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is not one yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: can anyone tell me what in windows vista would cause my explorer to freeze up or how i can check?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vista = Horrible OS.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i know but its all i have to work with :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: legaly :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: i dont know, the only way i can help is to get the move to a real os comment out of the way
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it wasn't all bad, once you turned all the trashy attempts at 'security' off.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: damn. . . too late
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i did turn all the "security" off ;P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are you using Aero?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: dont think so
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: aero is what drives all the "cool new effects" in Vista/7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: perhaps not then i turned off a lot of things it thinks that arnt important and toned down the graphics
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: or so "they" tell me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I used to do that too until I found out that some of that 'unnecessary' stuff was just making sure everything ran smoothly in the background
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: some of it does yes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but stuff i have put on there that runs
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: for programs that i dont use at all anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The thing is that a problem with an OS has many factors
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Did you install anything recently?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no but i uninstalled a bunch of stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: A badly installed program might have taken some vitals with it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: any errors, or does it just freeze?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: freezes and restarts the process
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: just to time out and do it again
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: When's the last time you rebooted?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: a few mins ago
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sue Tech: there is probably a logfile somewhere that would give you the phrase you need to google, but ive no clue where that might live
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: tried a restart to see if that would help
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: might still keep logs...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: lets see
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ever heard of hijackthis?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: a site?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps it's a locked dll issue? From what I understand, there's a bug that causes a DLL to not always be freed up in memory so that other apps can use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: hijackthis lists ALL running processes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Google it - there's lots of info about that out there
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: and more
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: only ike 20 processes running now that show up on the task m anager
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hijackthis is the nerdiest, and from my experience, most effective malware/virus/debugging tool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Task manager doesn't show everything
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i see
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: perhaps i shoudl look into it then
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Cheezburger is correct, Hijackthis can be your friend.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: There's also ComboFix, but it's a bad idea to run that without lots of knowledge of what you're doing
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: or your enemy if you mess it up
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not always your friend - just a very good tool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Cheeze don't tell them that.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hijackthis is powerful, but at the cost of ease-of-use.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well it will at least tell me whats running
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: If it lists a false positive, and you go after it, you're pretty much screwed
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so not something for me to use :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes it can be an enemy.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: You can use it, just be careful
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: You may need to google the process to see what it does.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You can use it to give your computer an enema
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i normally google things before i stop them
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: because some things are useful like you said before to make things run smoother but do nothing so to speak
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Think of it as scrub brushing your computer's colon :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: im on a laptop also if that makes a differnce :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so it gets hot very often
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: That actually could affect it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Very easily, in fact.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i had it shut off for two days
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: then started it up and problems start
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Laptops aren't the most durable computers. Heat is their enemy
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what problem you having Cide?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide is agreeing with that Cheezburger person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Many time a laptop is freezing/unresponsive/ shuts off, it's due to overheating. Should look into that issue LONG before you start playing with processes you're unsure of
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: says explorer keeps freezing up on windows vista
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee is agreeing with that Xaxz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: it sits on a cooling pad and like i said hasnt been running for longer than a few mins the fan works and stuff :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: on startup or something else?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Heh, have you tried just killing explorer.exe and then clicking "file -> new" and typing "explorer.exe"?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's probably a software issue - get a virus check
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no i havent
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: load linux
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Is that an HP laptop?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: it killed itself and restarts :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: its a toshiba
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you can get ahold of a version of EVEREST (ahem, by paying for it), it's one very good way to see current internal temps of your computer. If they are too hot, that's your issue.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Vista has a decent desktop gadget for CPU monitoring
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's that or a virus
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: is the leftside of keyboard very hot?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: As well as temperatures
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: malware*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: its pretty cool compaired to how it is
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: normally i mean
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Your problem could also be that you have vista installed. Fix that issue.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide is agreeing with that Xaxz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Stupid question, did you vac out the vents?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: no...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Try just killing it manually and starting it as a new process, if it's crashing it might be dumping the fragged data, if you do it manually it won't dump it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "downgrade" to xp or buy 7. Either is a huge improvement
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but it blows out hot air though
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: fan runs and all that goodness
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I would highly suggest vacumn out the vents.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: "Fan running" != "fan working properly"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: thats true
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: my sisters toshiba had a huge problem with keeping cool
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Dust can get anywhere.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: and it would just shut itself down because it got so hot
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I doubt it's a heat problem - only thing he said is that "laptop gets hot sometimes" - truth is, all laptops do
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not mine :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It's getting hot somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: <-- mineral oil laptop :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Never mind
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: laptops from my understanding arnt supposed to be ran 24/7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hehe :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Unless you make a mineral oil laptop :P I've never had problems with heat.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: and it looks awesome :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Mine run 24/7, just keep the vents clean and suck the dust out.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it can still be getting hot/overheating, Saatai
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if dust collects inside a compiter, especially the pwrsupply near the fan, and if during humid weather the dust becomes slightly conductive, slight current leakage may cause symptoms: reboot is common usually on vibration, modem renegotion may happen from sound vibration from a #beep, (freeze computer is unusual, may be unrelated)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: moisture in the air alone can cause the fan to slow down and gain heat.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: true
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: dust blocks air-flow slightly and may act as an insulator, dust slows fown and wears out fans resulting in noisy fans, dust plus humidity may cause slight current leakages that add up
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: folk with pet birds flying around usually require to run a dust collector air-purifier in the room where the computer is used
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if the compuer screen is regularly coated with dust, then dust is collecting inside the computer
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in dusty locations, the preferable computers are those that are sealed and do not require fans to move air around for cooling -- no air movement == no dust collection from the filthy air
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: was shocked to find the most common brand of laptop of people at the Java conference I just returned from was.......
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: HP
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ByteSpeed?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: who?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: alienware
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i only saw one alienware there
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dell?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: the most common by a clear mile (was >50% of people) was Apple
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Damnit, what's this world coming to. Apple sucks. (Least my stocks went up :P)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: were they company-issued or personal?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: by the looks, mostly personal
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and i can understand the logic
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: bah, some rich folk prefer "less hassle with apple"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Where was that Java conf at?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: London
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Silly Limey's :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: Limeys?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: WTH?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: large-screened, high spec laptops that ship with linux
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is the fact that most are untechie.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there were a fair cross-section
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Lol, that's what my family always calls our family up in England.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you had the modern, iffeminate mac users highly preened and probably bent
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you had the rich self-made folks who can now write books or retire
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: the young geeks who look gawky and weird despite being in the late 20s
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and the scruffy fat rockers who just like tech
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss coughs loudly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Oh, ok. I thought you meant Apple comp's with iOS. Apple products are great, their software is trash (IMO)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there were a lot of Adobe and Ipad folks floating around because of Flex
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i don't see me even wanting to try and write for iCock until the lawsuits sort themselves out and they release a free version of flex
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz conjectures: in England, there pricing between apple and extra-priced pc may not be so great a difference - also getting pc spare parts may be more trouble and expensive due to lack of competition
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: don't suppose anyone remembers an old game from the 80s called "Spindizzy"?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: your conjecture is incorrect, xyliz
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: what's nearer the mark is that most delegates there have a lot of money
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "less hassle with apple" - an advertising slogan
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it might even be true
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nothing ever "just works" in the computing industry, unless you're referring to tech support.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well, when i report back what i've learnt tomorrow at work, i can say "unsecured wifi isn't as popular as it used to be"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps you heard something on the unsecured wifi grapeline
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i might have to install linux in a vm soon and start learning it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: baby steps: Cygwin
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ubuntu!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Slackware :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i think ubuntu is overrated lol imho
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: probably debian
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It has a Windows/Apple friendly setup.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: centos (redhat) if you want to get a feel for a commercial distribution
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: first need to find some hard drive space from somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: in the end though, doesn't really matter which distro you learn with
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: use centos at work. it's not very pretty
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nogs, but redhat provides support, so lots of business use it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i use fedora mostly but its kinda buggy
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, not for centos, but you know what I mean
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nogs, i have centos somewhere also
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: CentOS isn't bad
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Not my distro of choice, but not bad
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it'll be for learning cycleclips rather than nix tho
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Nothing like Ubuntu... *twitch*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I've heard good things about Linux Mint - it's got ports of Ubuntu and Debian
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: which is a good reason for avoiding it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: gui is overrated with linux it runs best with nongui installs and applications
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nogs, and much as i like pretty stuff, what i really need something that is utterly bulletproof, because i won't know how to fix it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i learned off an old box so if i had to rebuild not a big deal
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: hence the vm
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: this being the future, and all
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Though I understand why the purists like to sling mud at it, Ubuntu does have a lot of support for helping newbies get started.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's better than they didn't
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pedwiddle is agreeing with that Maskull person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: being snobbist about whom you want using something isn't a bad thing
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: look how dumbed down pc games have become with the advent of consoels
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: consoles*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: ...unless you want more people to use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: It's a different set of priorities. You should go with the option that fits best with your own. That doesn't mean the other option may not be a good fit for someone else though.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i'm kinda hoping that reprobates all move to ipad and similar and leave proper pc's to us again
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sneaky suspicion that might be wishful thinking though
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i think that pc's really arent for gaming to begin with sure you can play them on a pc but a pc is really much more than a silly console
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that's horribly untrue, akuri
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's just proper pc games stopped being developed after 2006ish
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what happened in 2007 in pc games that they were no longer "proper pc games"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: they became console ports?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: wasn't something that happened overnight, but games started being developed "cross platform"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: nogs
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: transformers war for cybertron?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: which meant the only titles we got were asinine console ports
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Probably also killed by the same thing which killed the amiga gaming scene, too much copying
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Farkyss: That is true. Duke Nukem is cross platform?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just the same cycle that has been going on for years.. we'll get good titles for PC again after the ps3/xbox craze dies a little
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: well, i'm hoping the indy market that is developing from the removal of the development houses tier will bring gaming back to pc's
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sorta turning things on it's head and taking us back to the early 80s
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: that and it gets tireing and expensive having to upgrade every time a new game comes out
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: My local games shop doesn't even do pc stuff anymore, last title I wanted I had to buy online
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: joe bloggs in his room coding a game and releasing it on steam/whatever
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when somebody says "indie" or "indy", that is ambiguous, even if the indie or indy is located in india (or indianapolis)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: context is all important
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: YTV in Canada features a comedy-tvshow "the trouble with being indie"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: must be nice for them
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the Indy-500 is race cars
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Inde" is like more appropriate for "independent"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps incompetent "independent" immigrants may be called "inDP" (evil grin at joke from the middle last century before the pc folk ruined humor)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i was amused to discover the origins of the phrase "to be sussed out"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: not sure what that slang "sussed" indicates
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sus_law, http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/sus%20laws
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "suscitate" (verb) to rouse, to excite
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: lovely
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: brits travelling to america should be told to avoid using the phrase "i'm stepping outside to smoke a fag"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: yanks travelling to the uk should be told to avoid using the word 'fanny'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: brits should just avoid coming to america period
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: (actually, yanks travelling to the uk should be advised not to)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: damn
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did you mean ' shold' ?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Hooray for universal dislike... *eyeroll*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: so does that mean that smoking a fag is queer?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: no, fag means cigarette
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss nods at Veck.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no cigarette means cigarette, fag means a pile of sticks, or sometimes an effeminate man like elton john
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: boot = trunk lori=tech lift=elevator
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: lori=taxi
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: fag also is slang for cigarette
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: especially if you're common and from the south-east
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what do you call the split level buses?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: buses?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: not sure, im in florida
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: or double-deckers
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how far down to do you have to dig to get swampwater?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: faggot is a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "fag" comes from "faggot", and the Brits used to throw "fags" on the burning faggots, and the "fag" 'd soon be "smoking" before the "fags" were burned to a crisp -- historical british humor that
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i do like the term wanker tho and bollucks
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xyliz, did you know jack ketch victims were often burned with the gallows after they were hung, like a scaffold burial?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: not appropriate terminology for this channel, veck
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and "spotted dick"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: oh ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: didnt think it was that bad
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lets move on. This is for tech information or help.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: considered swear words to all intents and purposes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes, let's move on.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Is there a quick fix I can do to sort out the automated mapper backup in mushclient, or a way to disable the backup that persists across sessions? It keeps creating a folder called 'Programs' which confuses windows
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lytebane: tyep mapper backups off
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't be creating any programs folder.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I did that yesterday, but it just did a backup again, so I assume it doesn't pwersist across sessions
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: now look what you've done, you've roused old man Fiendish from his slumber
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper backups off SHOULD persist across sessions. hold on.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is Old Woman Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think it might be the line which does 'zip', might need to put some escaped quotes round the folder name?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: turie, i heard old fishwives smell of tuna.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: don't be silly, he can code
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's possible, Lytebane. let me look into it. if you have suggestions for code changes that will help in my testing please submit them to me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: women coders might explain how MS operates, come to think of it...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar i heard that sarah palin was born a woman
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that could be construed as genderist
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Fiendish is actually old man fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Construed? No need to construe anything. It's pretty blatant.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I did find a Files folder in the MUSHclient main folder that has the folders Fiendish and MUD in it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have deleted those for two days in a row now.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's bizarre
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: since when?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, I'll do that in future, thanks :) I actually assumed it would have been spotted already and fixed in the next version, so just thought I could hack in some quotes to fix that line until then
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sighs.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: please never assume that a problem has been reported by someone else
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if it's not on this list: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then it hasn't been reported
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, I didn't know about that one, I'll add that too my bookmarks, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: lytebane, what windows are you using?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: real wood or pvc?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Win XP
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I just looked in my mushclient folder and there's a 'Files' folder in there, like Turie reported, looks like it's splitting 'Program Files' due to a lack of quotes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's interesting. please tell me what version you're using. check AardwolfPackageChanges.txt
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: 397
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Actually, looking at the script I think it's more likely line 2214, the one which creates the db_backups folder
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 2225 for me, but ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm going through and inserting quotation marks where I think appropriate
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i wish people like fiendish edited wikipedia
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude drops everything and trots drooling after Fiendish.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: If it would help, I can try commenting that line out and see if the folder reappears over the next few days
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a lot of my friends do edit wikipedia. actually one of my good friends is on the board of the wikimedia foundation
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i'm editing both os.execute lines
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if that doesn't work, Fiendish, perhaps Progra~1 will.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: i'm not willing to hard code a particular folder name
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Anyone use the PotionQuaffer plugin from Bast's site?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: bots?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: well, try checking an online map for more clues!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I guess quite a few people don't put mush under program files, which might explain why I'm the first to notice it, and maybe later versions of windows don't scream about having a folder called 'Program'. I get a warning from windows at boot telling me the folder's there again which is why I noticed it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the truth is I don't actually run windows
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: most of my testing is just in WINE, and it works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I rely on user reports for problems a lot of the time
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: wine won't run dos programs for me
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: this isn't a dos program
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it says it wants 1 mb of memory
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I only use windows due to problems with wine and old nvidia cards on recent linux kernels...everything I do other than mush is on linux...plus I've got an ancient pc and that extra layer of using wine makes it a bit too slow
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well my next development snapshot will have this bug fixed
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thanks for the heads up. your suggestion about the cause was right.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Ok, glad to be of help, my apologies for not following the right procedure, I'll know better in future :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: How do you take a screenshot on your laptop?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ryu, that just... sounded wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: depends on the type of laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: fn+home?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: HP
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: "fn" ?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: function
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: by the way, the other day , someone told me there was a way to find a square root using arithmaetic, instead of a calculator
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know if thats true?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: There are a number of ways.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's true if you're willing to receive an approximate result
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Certainly is, can't remember it off-hand though, I'd have to check my maths books, I think it involves calculus
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah no i'd probably want at least 6 decimal places
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Oladon . o O ( Or willing to continue infinitely... )
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: hmm... if you can break it down to it's prime factorization it's quite simple
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: lytebane hmn, i should learn calculus instead
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dokkar . o O ( this is the math that never ends... )
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian i can do factor trees, but how does this help?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: let Ai = the set of your factors. if a1=a2 you have part of your answer, 2*2 you can pull out a 2, and coampare a1 to all other entries
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian, speak english?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.codemaestro.com/reviews/9
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it's math...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Okay. translate to english?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or google "Quake 3 inverse square root"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: let's say you want the sqrt of 56, 2*2*2*7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: let a1=2, a2=2, a3=2, a4=7
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Ok. i want the square root of 56 then.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 2 sqrt 14
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if a1=a2 then delete a1 and a2 from the array
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: set sqrt = a1
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: um?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then compare the other entries and multiply out...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: array?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: I think Newton's method can be used.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: are you programming this or is this for math work on paper/pen?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: paper and pen?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: oh i assumed you were coding this
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or pencil with eraser preferrably
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: nooo
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude cringes in terror!
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ok so take an arbitrary number. it's Prime Factorization.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is this for homework?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_method#Square_root_of_a_number
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling no, but i'm glad you're here, do a curse -h vampire
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: say it's 2^4 3^3 4^2. ALL PAIRS can be pulled out, outside the radical
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so your sqrt of that would be 2^2*3^2*4*sqrt(3)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian but for that, i'd still need to know the sqrt of 3?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: a pair in the radical is a single outside the radical
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: radical?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: sqrt symbol = radical
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so what you're saying is... that if i have a radical with a 1 inside the box
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I don't know how to 'decimal approximate' using mathematics for sqrt's without calculus, which i assume you don't know...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 56 = (2^2)*14
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok. let's safely assume that.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so. basically i need to either be reliant on calculators, or take a calculus course?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: will calc 1 teach me all i'd need to understand you?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i'm sure there are other ways.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or do i need like a dif eq?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the way i know it you need series approximations which would be calc 2 or 3
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: series... approximations. ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ask the teacher who told you that you could do it with arithmetic.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it wasn't a teacher.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i don't doubt there is a way, just not privy to it.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then ask yer teachers, some of them might know.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i don't have a calc teacher.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyways. thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: all math teachers highschool up go through some high level mathematics. ask any of them if they know a non-calculus way... or google it
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: The key phrases which I recall are taylor polynomials and series...calculus basically...I hated calculus so I'm switching my degree studies, probably to science
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: what degree were you
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Started doing a maths degree, completed the first couple of courses (correspondance courses with Open University in the UK) but the 2nd course exam was such a struggle I think I've reached the limit of what I can do with maths, and the main aim is to become employable again so science makes more sense
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: after calculus, it's a TOTALLY different thing
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the actual "math" portion is simpler, it's the logical analysis that becomes hellish
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: or fun... if you're like me.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ahem, as Maskull suggested, if you're really good at long division, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_method#Square_root_of_a_number will work very well btw..
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: After Calculus, it is all mathematical theory.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: well in the schooling, it's not so much theory and more understanding the reason behind the math.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: Yeah, that requires a little big of calculus, but it's pretty straightforward and will do decimal approximation.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xaxz what about the weird f symbol on that page
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: "little bit" even
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maskull little big sounds simpler
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You need calculus to develop that equation... the equation is right there.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i wrote programs on my ti calculator to solve most stuff for math up to trig
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: easy way to pass a test
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I really enjoyed most of it, just the second calculus part that made my brain melt. I particularly enjoyed finding out all the workings behind things they just teach you in school without explaining properly, made a lot of things more meaningful
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you was allowed a calculator in school?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i will never forget my senior math instructor. He said if he saw a calculator he would destroy it... he wasn't joking
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: forced me to learn to analyze math problems without a "crutch" which has been super helpful for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: calculators are mandatory now
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: not if you teacher says they aren't
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian they're mandantory even if the teachers says they're not
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: teachers aren't mandated to allow calculators, only to teach the material
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ... you wanna take my mathematics education courses for me?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian, no, =) do you wanna say if you are in the same country as me?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cause my college professors say otherwise. at least US policy ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian well, here a board of regents dictates policy, not a professer
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: A^2 = (X+y)^2 = X^2 + 2Xy + y^2 , y = (A^2 - X^2 - y^2)/2X , discard y^2/2X when small and use y = (A^2 - X^2)/2X to obtain an approximate y and a new (X+y) approximation to A
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: meh, if you structure any course too much you don't leave room for varied learning/teaching styles.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: velian i don't think anyone desires varied styles. they let the teachers come up with their own syllabus
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh that is familiar xyliz.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok so A = the square root?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Calculators were allowed in school here the year after I left (about 25 years ago)...not sure if I was lucky or unlucky :)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: that's silly, create your own syllabus but students are required a handicap in your course? *shrug*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: well, if they werent required, financial aid couldnt be used to buy them at the bookstore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then i'd set up my syllabus in a way that a calculator wouldn't be helpful! (well most calculators)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so maybe its more related to finances than to learning
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: A is the theoeetical Answer, X is the approximate answer near A
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: its a pain not to use one, remebering all the different formulas is just to much
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: in real life if your doing anything in the math field your not going to be required not use a computer or calculator
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: veck, i'm not saying you actually would use it in the course, just that they're a requirement
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its like if your english teacher required you to obtain a thesaurus, but never had you use it in class... it'd be a requirement
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: most math professors laugh at the use of a calculator.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: college professors (for higher level math at least)
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Velian, my geometry teacher had us use them 1 day out of the entire year.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: 'today we're going to learn how to use a calculator, and then tomorrow we're going to watch a pool movie with richard dreyfus that shows applied geometry, and then next week is summer vacation'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: A is the theoretical Answer, X is the approximate answer near A, y is the improvement to the approximate answer, each X+y (obtained recalculating y) becomes the new X approximation, and so on
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: calculators are faster these days than pencil and paper
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: xyliz, and they save trees
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: IMO, you should be able to figure out how to do something without a calculator so that you can generalize the concepts, but that doesn't mean you need to spend the time to do everything out long-hand when you don't need to.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oladon, can i have it when you're done?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vagus Tech: can anyone tell me why mapper goto never returns a match, even when I know I've been to the room I enter?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean mapper find?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper goto goes to a specific number.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: mapper goto goes to a specific room number.*
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vagus Tech: oh is it a room number
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It does say that in mapper help
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vagus Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: I have a question about alias's... I would like to creat an alias where I can enter an item after it, for instance... alias ide cast identify .... and when I use it I would ide mace or whatever I wanna identify and it would run it. Is there a variable ability to do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: No variable needed - in fact, you could do it mud-side
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: alias ide c identify
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Whatever comes after ide will be put after c identify
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How would you deal with worn items?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you can't, help identify, only the command works on worn items.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Whio n
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: yeah you cant do the worn thing with the spell
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: thanks for the help :), are there variable we can use though? another good alias Ive used in past would need on..... like alias bag put satchel
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: depends on the client you are using.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: oh ok, so it would be a client alias rather than a mud alias... I see, Ill look into it on mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mud aliases can have text after it, client aliases for MUSH cannot
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: I mis hit some combination of keys in zmud and now my numpad macros aren't working. the num lock isn't the problem, and its just the numbers 1-9. and hitting 4 and 6 move the cursor left and right instead of firing my macros or typing the numbers... suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: restart your client?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: check your system folder settings
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: tried restarting
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: which version
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: toggle numpad back on?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: am i looking for a specific setting?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep, macros in the Keypad and KeypadDiag subclasses. If you don't have any, and restarting the session doesn't fix, your mishitting the keys probably deleted them and the inherited stuff probably isn't getting reloaded.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Kurojiryuu, what do you mean when you said "mud aliases can have text after it, client aliases for MUSH cannot?"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: also check to make sure they're not disabled, too.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mud alias - ide as c 'identify' can be used ide - , but a mud alias cannot have any text after ide, or the alias will not fire.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: erm, of course it can...
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: aliases would be useless if they couldn't :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: really? on Mush it doesn't work that way
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well whats weird is my "0" macro works, but not 1-9
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Sure they can, if you mean MUSH aliases cannot... you just have to put in a wildcard into the match text
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Simple MUSH wildcard is just *
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: infact all numpad macros work except 1-9
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah, yeah, you need to add a wildcard, I meant that if you do the exact same alias
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: like both are just ide as c 'identify'
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, it's just a different code so different syntax
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUD-side simply has the wildcard coded silently
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: ok, I created an alias in my mushclient, named bag, and the command to enter was: put %1 satchel. It doesnt work. I tried bag cap and it said that is not a command. I also tried put * satchel.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The match text ("name") is what you type in... what do you want to happen?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What should the alias do, that is?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: I wanna type bag
- and what ever the item I type is it puts it in my satchel.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: For the alias "name" put bag * In the body put: put %1 satchel
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dartanean Tech: that worked :) thanks guys and gals
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: is there a way to compress a program more than zipping it?
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: 7z
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: gunzip
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the differenc will not be significant
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not for an executable, no
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: On old systems, you could fool it by zipping a folder, putting that in a folder and zipping that folder, but i don't think that works anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: so to solve my problem i should just get a bigger flash drive? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont think that works now
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Or use something like dropbox or ssh to move it to the other computer
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well i want to eventually put it back on the same computer flash drive seemed the easist way
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Dropbox sync's across multiple computers
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ssh "get" is just as simple as "put"
T3/r3/2011-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: scp via ssh just makes a copy on the remote machine too
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: any advice on fixing a dead key on my laptop keyboard?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cardio pulmonary ressucitation?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 'r' key is just about shot, registers less than half the time unless I hit it hard
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: standard run of the mill keyboard?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: try cleaning under the key?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Dell laptop keyboard, 8 years old or so
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Already cleaned out all the junk
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: invert it upside down on a flat surface and slam it a few times
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: might want to put a small piece of folded paper on the small little part in the middle that registers a keypress
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: if that doesn't work, it might pay to take it apart and clean it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The same way you slam your mom?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling, no personal attacks please
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling was caught! Run! Channel police monitor VampireDude is after you next!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Honestly, I just need to replace the keyboard, but I'm broke and will be for a while :(
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they're about $20
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling i have a spare keyboard
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: if you don't mind coming to pick it up, you can have it.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Like I said, I'm broke. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: maybe find some ridesharing or craigslisting types passing through the area
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and headed to yours
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no smoking cigs or drinking for you!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and it'll all work out
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you could maybe let them couch surf for a night, rather than pay them cash
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas, Farkyss.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: you do... own a couch righ?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude pushes the Crusty yellow couch towards Starling.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: alas what?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Alas, no drinking.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh. i have him on ignore still oops
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: might be so, but i've been an economy kick for 10 months ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: which is why I find people struggling in the current economic climate somewhat amusing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: 0h 10
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Job is lined up, just taking forever to start.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh that reminds me. i was going to check out jobkabob.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: Walmart are making you wait?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nah. Well-logging company.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they log wells?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: do they get to use scintillating crystals?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Gas and oil wells, yep.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: there's one. there's another one. there's another one
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: at least oil/gas is a safe industry for a couple hundred years
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They run instruments down the well bore to determine the rock lithology and gas/oil content, if any
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's about the only industry that -is- going to be safe, except maybe food in the long term
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It will be safe as long as the environmental activists don't kill it off with their lies and propaganda.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: they won't
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling... what if you end up poisoning the land with salt or sulfur runoffs
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: oh. environmental activists.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: vd, just make sure it's in a big population concentration and you kill two birds with one stone
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Possibly many more
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: how come when i try to make qemu load my own hard disk, it doesnt do anything? no error no nothing?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sighs.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i guess i should get vmware instead
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah i found it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know if it's possible to edit a windows registry from inside of linux?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: there is no magic to the registry, if you know how the data is setup and you have permissions you can edit from anywhere.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anaristos. um i dont know how the data is set up. i have hardware access and linux root
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: so i think i have the permissions i'd need
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hmm, I ended up pulling the 'r' key off again and using a pencil eraser to clean the contact. Seems to have helped.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: starling awesome! pencils are not obsolete!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go Starling!!! VampireDude cheers her on.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Mechanical pencils, at any rate.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Pulling it off was probably a bad idea O.o
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: armenia, can i quote you on that in my finger notes?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nah, Armenia. It's easy to remove and reinstall the keys on this thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Laptop?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Nod
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Oh, those keys wear out fast
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: These have lasted 8 years
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Got the computer in 2003, still runs great
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Maybe I just buy shit laptops
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when both the "r" and the "g" go, Starling may be typing the name as "Stalin" -- coincidence, or an indication of leanings
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: OH my
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is agreeing with that Xyliz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Perhaps your friend enjoys imagining 65 year old men in underwear on the other side of his conversations
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Mis
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Why doesn't my skill/spell show up in the dtrack thingy? I made it track backstab. Could it be the skill?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: any idea how somebody from yemen/pakistan or arabia as they say, was able to ring my chordless telephone disconnected from my ethernet, who's phone line is disconnected from my wireless internet connection, using a wired router, at the same time as they rang my pc speaker's telephone signal?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: my wireless usb cable here has a range of about 4-6 feet, so i sort of ruled that out
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: go figure hey :, nothing's up
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that sounds like you're off your meds
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: sound it how you want, invader, how it is is how it is
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: let me get this straight - someone called you on the phone that's disconnected from the network?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: somebody rang my pc phone at the same time as a phone connected to a phone line rang
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: and both stopped ringing when i hung up the pc phone prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: they shouldn't have any connection to eachother
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: this is proof we live in the matrix
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: they're still connected to the same phoneline, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: nope, my internet connection's independent and wireless
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i hear this happens if people are tapping your phone line, and your pc internet connection is linked to phone line
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: my router has no antena on it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: well, unless i'm missing something it's either: a) magic b) off the meds
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: the phone shouldn't have rang but did
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Necroshine was "dreaming" and "imagined" the phonecall
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: magic or something similar to that defcon video, and the phone lines in israel/palestine
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: sure, use your superior dna reasoning abilities to debunk the observations of the human carnival experiment
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: classic retort to shabby design backup materials
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: agent ashkelon and argyle publishing inc. i think this game's onto something
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: dreams that are supervivid are possible and initially indistinguishable from rl - retrospection may reveal hint(s), that the dream was a dream and not rl, when "impossible events" in the dream are noticed
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Maskull tries to remember if Xyliz is quoting Inception.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: until then, "i did see a ufo with green men, i did, i did"
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i have the ability to lucid dream at will, dream while not sleeping, be fully aware out of any trance, mix awareness and dream, consider superstition, religious materials, fiction and fact, reality and news, history and assumption on a scale of 1 to 1, and remain sane at the same time as being crazy
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: then i have the ability to remember what i imagined, what i dreamed, what i thought, what i think i thought, what i remember, what i should remember, what is and isn't, and what filters are in place and should be in place and shouldn't be in place, all at the same tiem
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: and that what i mentione was a real occurrence in this real world
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: coincidences are able to "throw some into a loop"
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: so if you have no conclusive answers or assumptions you should probably shut the fellatio up or else invent some logical device based upon a creative anomaly
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: and enjoy that camera in your ex box and stuff like that, food for thought or the absence thereof
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "Twilight Zone", the "Outer Limits", the "Gallery", "Night Stalker", ...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: searching for answers to what made them happen and eliminating ignorance is one way to deal with the unknown
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: i.e., back to the channel topic
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf What if....Necroshine and Xyliz would ever have an offspring.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if Necroshine were 100% coherent on channels, and not in turmoil mentally, and did not use sexpervert cussing in conversation, then perhaps Xyliz may attempt to analyse a "portant" coincidence - but Necroshine is yet a few decades from reaching maturity
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: of course, you better come eugenics me cause you're so perfect
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: sexpervert cussing , you mean like the humour they display on my television and the crowd laughs?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: maybe what i need is a button that makes the sound of a laughing audience
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Necroshine, that "eugenics me" was not a mature comment
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: historically applicable though, i have a morbid sense of humour remember, if i have a sense of humour at all, which i probably don't
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: using a sexpervert cuss word that some leering chessplayers use to describe the "Fegatello" or "Fried Liver Attack", tsk tsk
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: switch to Debate
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demonspawn Tech: How do I turn off all triggers in tintin++?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: thats a good question actuall
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling peers around herself intently.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle glows with a strange light as he forms a jump point and leaps in!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: someone using mush help me test something?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: testing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: testing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Testing
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: Testing Failed!
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Testing colours =D
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yea i figured as much
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn . o O ( someone should write a mush plugin with a color picker that'll autogenerate the code and append it to end of command line )
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: what mud client is very similar to zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: cmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnidlohnad Tech: is it possible to get xterm colors in tt++ on urxvt?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: I just updated to the newest mushclient. How do I get my helpfiles to not show up in a window again?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not a very well formed question
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what helpfiles? what window?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off the help plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: ahh, that was it. Thanks Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the help plugin is not included in the aardwolf mushclient package. are you using just basic mush?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I don't see that in my list of plugins loaded in the r342 snapshot (old now)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's never been included
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but basic mush wouldn't have it either, since it's an aard-specific plugin, so must be some hybrid
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: just wondering how he "updated"
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: client package snapshot r449 is now online
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper db backups might actually work for people other than me now. :\
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I was enjoying the extra folders in my mush dir that started showing up a few days ago :p
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: get the latest snapshot and let me know if that's fixed, Gonf.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: cool, I'll check it out tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I just learned about that issue yesterday, and the timing was rather inconvenient as I've been on airplanes all day
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: luckily (groan) my connection from Reno has been delayed
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: hey the reassuring message from the backup sufficed for me :)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: well, on the very small plus side, if your path doesn't have any spaces in it then it would have worked before too :)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but I suspect most other people actually have spaces in some folder, like, oh, Program Files
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you want your programs to be in program files folder? }:>
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I dunno, man. My path is /home/avi/Documents/aardwolfclientpackage/MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: at first I thought it was a windows problem, until I realized that my path has no spaces
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, not /Users/avi?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: guessing he's on Ubuntu
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: bash: cd: /Users: No such file or directory
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /home isn't really a ubuntu original :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods, but ubuntu gives you silly folders like Downloads, Documents, etc under your home
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah but the screenshot on https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/ makes it clear
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so does OSX ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and Debian
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish, the backups worked great for me and I love the extensions: olderer is my favorite
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I was going to go with olderest, but I figured there were enough manual backup slots already
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: they worked great before because I also don't have any spaces in my path
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not cdddr?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: fixed age suffixes made it easier to do backup rotation
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: so if I update the aardpackage, do i lose the settings?If not where can I find the correct way to update?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: board 1, note read 982
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard page for the download has a whole section on updating
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm has a section on upgrading
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: oke thanks looked over it.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: one thing to note is that if you were using Bast's copy of the bigmap plugin, you should remove that because the package now includes one that is better
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: How do you adjust the font display in mushclient? Simple question, but I never found out :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: i.e. how do you change the font?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> output
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: press ALT-something-or-other, then it should be obvious.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that is for the active window
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: must appreciated abe
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's only one window in current MUSHclient setups...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so that would tend to be the active one
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I figured that out , day late again
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is there anything i can do to make my neighbor's internet run faster?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pay for it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc i did.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pay for a faster version of it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn. i dont have that kind of cash
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trihex Tech: or a more powerful wireless router
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ah a better router i might be able to do
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i thought routers couldnt be powerful because of the fcc
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are multiple ways to achieve power in the wireless world
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're limited in wattage output, not in effective radiation
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free solution would be better placement of the access point...move it to the corner of the house closest to your place...cheap solution would be directional antennas, DIY such as the cantenna
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: so main screen is the right font, but chat log and all the other windows are different. how do i just those fonts? global preferences?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: adjust those fonts*
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: alt+enter, choose output, change font there iirc
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: for the other windows other than the main window right click gives a menu to change the font.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: heh. soo, i am not quite using a pc.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: but a mac emulating win xp running mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: those key commands do not work. where are they in the prefs?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know if there is an easy way to connect a 75 ohm coaxial cable line's signal wirelessly to a tv?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm... your mouse has no right click?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: its not that it does not have right click
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: its more that nothing happens when i try. an issue with the emulator no doubt.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: any not your instructions
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you could try editing the code of the plugins, to change their default text I guess
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cewyn Tech: Should be able to highlight the window and then go to world properties in MUSH. Output will let you choose the font or just use the default if you prefer.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asterax Tech: Hmm.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: anyone know how to send blank lines from within a script to the mud?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: what client?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Send("")
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: heh, too damned simple, i tried Send ("\")
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I think the problem with that was that you're escaping the closing quote
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone have a link to a good wireless Usb to mini usb adapter? I'm getting fed up with bumping this wire and the device detaching
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: monoprice.com
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I thought you were replying to yourself and my head exploded
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: lmao
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Anyone here (is Fiendish around?) know if any of the Aard client updates recently has disabled mousewheel scrolling of the main window? And how to re-enable it, if possible?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Slavanas: It has not.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Check if your mouse drivers were updated/installed on the other hand
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I am here. And no it hasn't. That would be ridiculous.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Hmm, so, any ideas how to enable it? Used to be able to, but had to reformat, so just downloaded the prog from the Aard website again last week, and now can't scroll...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: can you scroll on other programs?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Mouse drivers were just reinstalled, since reformat. Scrolling works fine on other webpages, and in the comm log.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Slavanas: Do you have your mouse over the mini-window part?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ah. it does scroll in the comm log?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: That's perhaps the issue if your manufacturer decided that scrolling must be handled by its own software
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: mouse is over the window, yes. even tried clicking on the scroll bar to get focus, doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: clicking the scrollbar is a little silly
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: and yes, hovering over comm log allows scrolling of that miniwindow.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: used to be that I had to click in the main miniwindow, then could scroll... now that doesn't do anything either.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Odd, mine works.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Well, nvm. Troubleshooting it myself. seems must be the mouse drivers.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's a peculiar issue that I know nothing about. certainly nothing that I've done should cause it
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Just pulled out the USB dongle. Scrolling form the laptop trackpad works. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish goes, "OK".
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Odd, since it used to work before... Hmm...
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: try plugging the mouse back in again
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: nope. No luck.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Did you reboot after install?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: rebooted, yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: I am running this copy off a USB stick though, where before reformat it was on the HDD itself... that shouldn't make any difference though, should it?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: USB was badly designed implemented by hardware manufacturers, microsoft, softeware programmers -- 2011 and YET there are usb difficulties, tsk
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Probably not, no
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: There's probably some conflict in your drivers
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: USB 3.0 came out.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Odd. Might try an uninstall/reinstall the mouse sometime.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz does not use USB here, no problems at all -- with USB, lots of anomalies
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: USB is convenient though. And anyway, not much other connectivity options with a laptop, I'm afraid.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: There's Bluetooth - but your problem is not with USB
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Salvanas Tech: Nope, it's not. Just repying to Turie.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Heh, whoever created the mob " A good place to sit on the rock is unoccupied." in sennarre is seriously confusing my regexp
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: that shopkeeper does not sell anything
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: MushClient - any simple tips on gagging INFO and other data that has been shunted to the Comm Log window?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the comm window
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: echo off
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Thanks Abelinc.
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: where can i start learning the basics of mushclient? are there tutorials somewhere?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient.com is a good place :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do they actually have a tutorials page somewhere?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: or were you talking about the faqs/forums?
T3/r3/2011-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: forums have walkthroughs for pretty much all of it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i just downloaded malwarebytes would that slow down my computer any if it wasnt set right?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ladanday Tech: Shouldn't.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: Is there an easy way to display stats in the stats plugin in one row instead of two rows? I'd prefer this window to be bigger in height than in width.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: which stats window? Mine or the one that comes with the new Aardwolf MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can hack the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's one of the simplest plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: one in the mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click->Flip Orientation
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i edited mine and tookout the stats i don't care about
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: no flip orientation, there's just 'reset defaults' and 'change font' options. okay, gonna try and hack it.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you aren't running the latest version
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: hm, downloaded it day or two ago from the aard's site.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Fiendish has updated it several times, I don't know if Lasher put the latest on the website: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: thanks, i'll try it too.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: where can i find help on tranferring my mushclient map database to the new verion?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: on the aardwolf website
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: merci
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm has instructions for that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the download from aardwolf.com is never (except on release day) the very latest version
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I update usually several times per week, sometime several times per day, and we don't want that many announce notes
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hooray.. got my map database. thanks Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: what is the current version of aard mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: snapshot r449 is the latest development download
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i have ver. 4.33 should i upgrade?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: woaaaaahhh that's...wicked old
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the new aard mushclient package uses mushclient v4.72
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: you should upgrade, did the aard mush client with 4.33 even have the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no it didn't
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: so yes? also, is there any way to give a numeric argument to commands? also, you are the author? awesome program.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: say i wanted to disable the terrain colour in the gmcp mapper.. which function would i look in? I've tried commenting out a few sections, but I'm not hitting the right spot.. i'd just like the background to be plain black
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm the developer of the aardwolf package, but not of MUSHclient itself
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no problems.. i'll poke around some more then
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean the background texture, winklewinkle?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i found it once before..
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Winkle, the mapper has a toggle for that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. i use this at work in down time.. and I'd like it to be as plain as possilbe
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Click on the * at the top left of the mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Winkle, click on the asterisk in the top left corner and go down to the bottom where it says "Area Textures" and click "On" it will turn to "Off"
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then click on the "x" in the top left
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i thought of that as a lengend rather than being interactive..
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it is an interactive configuration popup
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool. isee that now .. thanks guys!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: so is there a way to ,for example, get 10 heal bag?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: just all or 1
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: ok thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package is a bunch of plugins and configuration on top of MUSHclient. MUSHclient changes versions every once in a while and is currently up to 4.72. I keep the package up to date with the latest versions of MUSHclient. the package also changes versions every time I add features or bug fixes to the plugins.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and the package version is current r449 on the development site
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks i'll upgrade tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can find the development site in my finger info, or go to aardwolf.com if you want r397
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks fiendish!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of a resource on how to make numpad keys (with numlock off) send different characters than what they normally send (ie, instead of 8 sending up, i want it to send it's char sequence) in gnome-terminal?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: it'd prob affect dir buttons too, ive wondered about that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: before i hack it.. it there a way to make stats monitor monochrome?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: man keymaps?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no winkle
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thx
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use Accelerator to map the keys instead?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Kuojiryuu he isn't talking about mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, i'm wondering if there's a way for ubuntu 10.10 to do it without changing what the arrow keys do
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I generally suggest not modifying the plugins in the aardwolf client if you don't have to, because it's just going to make upgrading later more difficult
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i know.. and i totally agree.. but I've gotta have it "jsut so" for some windows... so hacking is the only way after a certian point
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: I'm unfamiliar with mush, but is it feasible to dupe a plugin, disable the original, and install the copy?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: colors stand out like a sore thumb in this screen.. if they are msotly white and bwhite then it just looks like a terminal window
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Tyebald: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Tyebald: you have to either totally uninstall the original or change the plugin id in the dupe
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: winkle: set your display to black and white
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: well, if a plugin is essentially just a single file that can be installed/uninstalled, couldn't it also be copied?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes Tyebald
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: plugins all have UIDs though and two plugins can't have the same UID at the same time
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: the reason I'm asking is, one could then theoretically edit the copy to get the desired functionality, but not necessarily totally screw up the ability to upgrade.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can always upgrade over an edited copy. the problem is transferring your edits over to the new one
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's just a hassle sometimes
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: actually I feel the level of newbies has went down
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mis!
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: has "gone" down
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: right, but if there's a copy (and it's not a binary file), should be relatively straightforward to see the changes and merge.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: at least, easier than not working with a copy.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: tyebald: merging changes isn't always straightforward
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it depends on how significant the differences between the old and new versions are
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: understood. but starting from a copy should at least help with the merges that aren't so complex.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: whereas if a person submits feature/enhancement requests to https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list then *I* make sure that everything gets included in new versions
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: assuming I accept the request, which I usually do
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ah. well, that would be easier for the user. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I have the newest MushClient, and have xterm on. What am I doing wrong here ->> colorset players ... it acts as if it doesn't recognize the arguments.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: ugh ...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: it didn't print the color code ... which was @x050
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: colorset players @x050
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: colorset players 050
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: don't include the @x
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read what it responds... can also be 000-255 for xterm colors.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: don't use the @x?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: oh wow! Thanks all! Greatly appreciated! :o)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knows you want a color...you're not "inlining" the color
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: good point
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like you could always type colorset tech bcyan
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Interesting! This is going to be a lot of fun to play with :o)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: any Idea's on why in bast miniwin_stats plugin in will only show stats and not quest,...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Orogan: is it showing any of the other tabs, Levels, CPs, or GQs?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: but didn't completed any of them yet
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you type "statdb comp" do you get a table of stuff?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: hmm seems I didn't inst the statdb.xml, tought i did
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: install*
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: I'll get back to you when I did a q,cp or so, thanks bast
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: I need to remember when installing aardpackage updates it overwrites yyou'r plugins directorie
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: your
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it shouldn't, all my stuff should be in a different directory
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and the data is all in the logs directory
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what it overwrites is the listing of plugins you have installed
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes it does, because it replace the world file, good point
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: its in in sub under plugins dir, and gets removed when I copy the world directory.Or so I noticed.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't get removed unless you're overwriting your mushclient..."installing" a new mushclient should involve you making a new directory, not overwriting the original
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: you got a point there... :/
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change "mushclient" to "oldmushclient" or something, then take your time copying stuff over
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: luckly I don't really care about the statistics that much.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: hey anyome willimg to help me out with a scripting prob
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: just ask the question
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: i downloaded a spell up script and i dont know how to add my classes and level to get it working
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, what script was it? Who wrote it? What client?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: you might want to also specify your client
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: i use much
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: it was writen by huan
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one's likely quite ancient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varkie Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Bast has a great miniwindow spellup plugin. "finger bash" and go to his website.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: download bast's plugin folder and add his spellup plugin. lots more people will be familiar with it t ohelp
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: sorry "finger bast"
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I was going to say that bast's also here active a lot...but wow, huan's online now too ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, huan's spellup script is from before 2 pretty big changes...(1) before it was legal to fully automate keeping spellups on yourself, and (2) spelltags, which greatly simplify the code needed for spellup scripts to keep yourself spelled up
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Any idea why on my Ubuntu 10.10 every time i reboot my time (clock) drops back 2 hours? I've verified that the location is set for my location, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is your bios set for your timezone?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Don't believe so
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some bioses were wonky in how they presented the time/timezone to the OS
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Will look next time i have to reboot
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Unless there's a way to check from inside the OS?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ie, in your scenario, you have 20 trained str, and get 5 from eq/spells.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i do? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ok, so i just downloaded the aardwolf mushclient...is there a getting started guide i can read? (beyond the very simple window that popped up when i opened it)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ...why does the tick timer count by two?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it's binary
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: You can change that in the Tick Timer from 2 to 1 if you wish.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that tells me nothing, turie
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: my tick timer counts seconds
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: and has done since 1996
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The reason it counts down by two is because Lasher wrote it that way I believe.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: and how can i get rid of this tooltip with the line number and timestamp whenever i move the mouse on the main window?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: Lasher is written in binary
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: one sec
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: That is something I do not know.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: Game->Configure->Output... uncheck show line information
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: I don't think there's a significant reason for the counting by two, other than that 2 second resolution ought to be sufficient
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, it probably is, it's just gonna take some getting used to
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: though this is different enough from cmud that i'm not convinced i'm sticking with it yet anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I changed it to 1 second count down.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: how is the mapper database designed? could i port my cmud mapper to this format?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you could, it'd be a big job
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: probably not
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i can write sql
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just need to know the differences
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10621
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: could you really be bothered though/
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yes i could, farkyss
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: feh, i couldn't
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'd rather not have to remap 20k rooms :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: then why change at all
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: cause zugg pisses me off
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: is there a way i can make mush auto-copy text to the clipboard when i highlight it?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10621 This is a zMUD mapper conversion to MUSHclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that isn't news :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i wouldn't change now on principle
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: oh, i'm not sure i'm sticking with it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but i'm trying it out at least
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if i can't auto-copy text to the clipboard by highlighting it, that's a real negative... :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: ctrl-d or ctrl-c.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that's not automatic, turie
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'm familiar with windows shortcuts, thank you :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: whoa, who changed my tech color from purple :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: Then write a plugin for it to do auto-copy.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no clue where to start on that
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i've never written mush plugins before
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss chuckles politely.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is has 8 scripting languages.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: is one of them zscript?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: (or you could stick with the old client that did it alread)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope. That is Zugg only.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: then it could have 100 scripting languages, and i'd still be clueless
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: give in to the power of the dark side of the force...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: it is... your destiny
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I would hate auto-copying on selection
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish: It would be annoying.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i've gotten used to it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah...looks like you did a great job on this fiendish, i really wish i could have fancy graphics like this in cmud :P
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but i don't have the time atm to learn how to use it, so i'm sticking with cmud for now
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Myrkul: I hope to at some point put together a walkthrough guide
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't know when, though
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: what would you guys suggest for jailbreaking an ipod firmware 4.2.1?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: butter.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Hey techies, quick Cmud question. I just converted my mudfile from Zmud to Cmud, and most of my various trackers (quest, level, hourly, etc) work just fine with the exception of spacing. I.e., it's showing up as "gtInfo" as opposed to "gt Info" This is kind of silly...but how can I add that space in?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: add " around the strings to keep spacing
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: try delimiting with quotation marks.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: eg "gt info" apposed to gt info
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: That's not really working.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if your cmud is still crunching down spaces in double-quote-surrounded strings, you have a really broken cmud and either need to take steps to fix it or need to upgrade to version 3.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: It's probably super broken :p
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I literally just opened it for like the first time today, and had it convert all the Zmud stuff to Cmud basically just to see how much would work and how much wouldn't
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: are they atreidess' tracker scripts cuz if so thats your problem, iirc there are some trackers in the library
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Trying to decide if I think this is worth the effort or not.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Nods, I saw Charneus posted Cmud versions.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zugg software is broken.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: hehe, I assume you're looking at the Compatibility Wizard? You're going to have a thousand different little things to fix from your ZMud code.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'm probably not going to stick with it :p
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: its best not to use his code for cmud alot of it is full of errors
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'mma probably stick with Zmud and just live in the past forever.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you are using version 3.something, you will kick yourself in your happy place(s) for not investing time to learn how to use CMud instead of staying with ZMud.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'm not sure what that even means.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Or trading to MushClient, which is better than either Z or Cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I can't use Mushclient on my laptop, everything is too small for me to see (visual issues)
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: Too compacted with all the windows.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no thanks, zmud v4 and windows 95 for me
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Moofie blinks innocently at Gonf.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: im using telnet from a bootable cd copy of linux
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, there's more readily shared scripts in Mush. At best, it's functionally equivalent to CMud.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I've used all three of those clients
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Z and Cmud for more than a decade
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I've been using Zmud since 2000.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Mushclient blows them out of the water
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Zmud/Cmud = Pro botter, MUSH is for noobie bots :p joking^^ sort of
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: bah. use tintin. I've been using it since 1992.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: funny, but still not even close to accurate, Sheni.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: What is really going to be the deciding factor for me is if I can get my speedwalk system working in another client.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: If so, I'll go to another client. If not, I'm Zmud forever.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I tried TinTin years ago ... didn't stick with it
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: your speedwalk system use zmud maps or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I'm using a customized version of Fiendish's Zmud speedwalk updater, added a layer of #paths to it for convenience.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: my speedwalk system uses my 10 fingers, and a mind like a steel sieve.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: If I understand correctly, Cmud doesn't allow for out-of-client text files to be used.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: hmm, nods
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: my speedwalk uses my cmud map
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I don't really like maps :/
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: I use runto now ... and have gotten rid of all but a few of my speedwalks
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Accora Tech: I find them more cumbersome than useful.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: moving your code from ZMud to CMud will be a lot simpler (albeit just as tedious given the compatibility edits) than rewriting it in Mush/TinTin/TinyFugue/etc or tinkering with someone else's hard work.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: well, the aard mush package doesn't need to be "installed", just unzip and run
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: so if you want to give it another go sometime, plenty of folks here can help you out with any issues
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's still an installation, you know.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: what did do in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: %session ...
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably exposed info regarding your connection.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ie, Character Properties.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: figured it out ... it can show info like where the file is ... cmud still has it i was just syntaxing it wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you can pass the ! object to an external routine so that it can manipulate zmud/cmud.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: you can pass the %session object that is.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: it's the client's equivalent to this.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leges Tech: anyone know why a router would periodically stop working for about 2-5 miniutes about 5 times aday? weird thing about this is aardwolf continues working so i guess something is still working. Web pages won't load on any of three wireless laptops. and i believe a hardwired xbox also stops working.
T3/r3/2011-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if aard is still working, the router is not the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: it could be a dns problem
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leges Tech: hmm well i connected directly to modem and worked fine. then back to router and issue continued.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok. So it could be that the router has problem resolving DNS. If you use it for DNS, try using your ISPs DNS servers directly instead.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leges Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What, you don't know Swedish?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What's a good way to report current time from a MUSHClient plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Hello? My dtracker isn't picking up the spell i'm tracking, whats up with that?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orielle Tech: is there anyone here who can help a rank beginner set a target ?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orielle Tech: Mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: How do you make mushclient stop showing the timestamp at the side
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You mean for the commlog?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: no, in the output window
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Right-click in the comm-log->timestamp->No Timestamps
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, I have no timestamps so can't help you there
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Dang it...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Armenia Tech: Oh, ok, figured it out
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: With the new Aardmush, is there a way to not have outputs shown at the end of my prompt? On the old client it would show everything on a new line, now it adds it after my prompt when it can. Like when I use a skill in combat and such. If that makes sense.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: put %c at the end of the prompt and bprompt
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: to see the current prompt bprompt, type config
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ikari Tech: ooh, that worked. Thanks Xyliz.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: any cmud mapper/gmcp experts around?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: Trying to update my cmud maps with gmcp, to add the vnum. I have a room in shiela's cat sanctuary, "Inside an escape route", that has a vnum of -1, so the mapper won't update that room, any idea how to get around this?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: is there any secret to getting the cmud mapper to not catch things like spells failing or a channel talking as the room name?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: im mushclient mapper..can i setup a custom command batch for an exit eg "mapper cexits open w;w"
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, use four semi-colons
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the ol' double escape!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mucho thankso
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmmm i think i'm not quite understanding it.. or its not working right...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I was having difficulty with the chained commands so i made an aard alias called openw
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do you have the most recent version?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yep... r449
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: alias openw = open w;w
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so then i did "mapper cexit openw".. and it moved right.. and setup a custom exit with the right room uids
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh wait.. forget it.. new mapper needs a really specific name.. sorry to bother you
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in mapper is there a way to purge the exits for 1 room only? My mapper has it in it's head that i can walk througha door... i've setup a custom exit, but it's not using it.. rather.. it's walking me into the door
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as i had walked that way before i setup the cexit
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: anyone have any ideas as to how i can install windows 95 when it won't recognize my usb keyboard?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i mean winxp
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: windows 95 was before usb
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: machine telepathy
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I was going to say - even if we're playing a mud, you don't need to simulate the environment...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: lol, i meant xp
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i would ahve thought your bios would have been responsible for detecting your keyboard at some level.. does it work in the bios settings screen?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if there is a ps2 kbd female-plug on the computer, insert a ps2 kbd
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: if i could get simcity 4 to run in wine i would never run windows again
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: no ps2 port :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thargar ( i don't know how to internet
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: i tried to internet once and it was too much for me, i couldn't handle it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft products are deliberately designed to suck on older equipment
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And by sucking on older equipment you mean...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: whatever pays the rent, mirite
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You mean Microsoft has a case of the ol' Hugh Hefner?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft wants customers to upgrade to the latest hardware and software
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thargar laughs out loud at Entopee.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: yes it works in bios screen but my xp install disk won't recognize the keyboard
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: its one of those system restore disks from another computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might have to borrow a friend's keyboard
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so if the hardware is too old, or missing a component, or too modern, for a microsoft software product, and difficulties are encountered, ool or upgrade or learn to enjoy suffering
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: this mobo only has usb ports, i'm going to upgrade it someday ..
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ool?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: out of luck?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. i also recommend finding a friends generic keyboard.. borrow a dell keyboard form school or work
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps use an install disk from another computer with a usb keyboard - but maybe those difficulties were inserted by microsoft to prevent software piracy
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: does the motherboard have a ps2 port
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks winklewinkle but i only have usb on my motherboard. no other kbd connector.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: windows setup wont dtdetect it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless by "install disks", those were the "vanilla originals"
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: no its a dell xp restore disk
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: download a copy of the windows xp pro iso from the piratebay
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: bittorrent and thepiratebay.org you can find pretty much anything..
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or just get a better os
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: hmm i might give that a try
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i havent had to buy software or music in about 15 years
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: so an os from bittorent isn't going to be filled with virii and such?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes it will
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: digital music sounds like noise -- at least you did not pay for that noise
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: no depends, really just read the comments below
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: get ubuntu instead, I am 99.9998% sure that keyboard will work fine
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i find that site doesnt allow a bunch of crap
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: btjunkie.org has a very good community for rating good/bad torrents
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: and if it is bad people always post that the torrent is crap
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but ANY executable from a torrent is a risk
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: sort it by how many people are seeding... is the best way i find
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: keyboard works great in linux. my only reason for want xp is to play simcity 4
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: install wine
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: not sure if it will run under it tho
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: it almost runs :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i've had good luck with the piratebay myself.. reading the comments is the best way and downloading the iso your not at risk you still have to burn it to a cd
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i think i might just learn to build simcities in blender instead
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Download an OEM copy and verify that it has correct MD5's by going to a Microsoft website with said hashes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bingo! that is GOOD advice
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: thanks that was my next question
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as ISOs are just glorified zip files.. they can be opened , infected and re-packed
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ya i know however its not going to start infecting your computer as soon as you download it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: iso files are not zip files, but they could both be called archive files
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: its just a copy of a cd, hard drive, dvd whatever
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: one big image file
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no, it's a bit more than that actually
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: go ask wikipedia :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i understand them dont need to been using them for years
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes i think you're going for a level of correctness we don't need to explore
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sorry, sometimes im like that :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: this _is_ the tech channel, after all
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: =)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i would just go buy a retail xp if i could but effing msoft hasn't left that option
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ya i know, which always made me wonder why microsoft gets po'd about you downloading something that they dont sell anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: greed?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i 100% agree
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd actually buy Win xp if they'd sell it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they don't.. so i am FORCED to priate it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: they want you to upgrade your system and OS its all about the money
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm sure their lawyers don't see it that way though... :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The thing with XP though is that activation and verification are so easy, there's almost no benefit to buying it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd even pay $50 for a legit copy of xp
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft is greedy and wants to sell their crappy bloated more recent products, so they want to restrict the older products that work
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Whereas with the newer versions of office (07 and up), dubious software must be installed to bypass the checks
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: if they sell it i guess they would be liable to support it which i wouldnt to support either
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Hey guys anyway to config mush so I can see what I type in the command line
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baconist Tech: get tech on the other hand... 80% of costs to every software business is maintenance of legacy products. MS legitimately has to make money to stay in business, legacy products COST them rather than generate revenue. The arguments here are a little on the silly side. If you don't like MS of the way businesses must conduct business, there are plenty of free alternatives (linux, for example).
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Baconist Tech: typo at the beginning of that... its Bill Gates fault.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft does not adequately "maintain" current products -- that 80% cost figure is bogus
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Does anyone use the msuhclient to run aardwolf>
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: er mush
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: type client
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You technically don't "run" aardwolf in your client
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But about 1/3 of Aard players are using mush, yes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: a lot of people do, ask your question please
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Do you know ho configure it so you can see your text when you type commands?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: I am one of 2 using atlantis!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: I can only see my text after I hit enter
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your input box must be off your screen
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you have hidden the command line, at the bottom of the main window move your mouse until you see an up-down arrow and drag it up some
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Hah, wow...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oozaru Tech: Thanks must have adjusted it and not noticed. Thanks guys.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: fiendish have you thought of switching from mushclient to emacs?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't ask stupid questions
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: because that would be awesome!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mushclient needs a morsecode pluging.. so all commands can be entered with the space bar :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: i'll take that as a no then.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc has morse code commands in his client
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: there are no stupid questions, only stupid questioners.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Thargar, you apparently did not read the posts by Necroshine
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: reading tech board now :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Necroshine is usually okay on forums, but on Debate or Gossip, the posts are deliberately screwed
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anybody know of a good apache web server monitoring tool
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: for what? statistics etc or something else?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: features include parsing of access.log and ssl_access.log for 404s 500s 300s 200s and the likes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: webalizer, analog, awstat for example
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ill look into it... thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: anyone know with ansi how to "turn off" blink at later parts of the string?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: blink?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yeah, blinking text
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: where do you have blinking text?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: %ansi(hi, green, blink)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: only problem is it doesn't turn off until carriage return so the entire last half of a string blinks
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: nm i think i figured it out
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: if you call another ansi tag does it stop?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: but I added a %ansi(reset)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: where I wanted the blink to end
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: anyone know any slick dj software?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: final scratch?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anipopo Tech: buzz :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pooven Tech: does it have alot of features?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So if I get a bluetooth GPS receiver, can I pair it with my iPod touch 4 to improve location services?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: does the ipod touch have a mechanism for interpreting NMEA strings?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: probably not
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't know what kind of hooks apple provides, but it might be possible to write software that would do it by receiving the NMEA $GPGGA sentence from your receiver
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are gps apps that can talk to bluetooth gps receivers
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electronics-XGPS150-Universal-Smartphones/dp/B004M3BICU for an example GPS receiver compatible with Apple IOS devices
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: is there a way to clear the zmud map? the mapper help overflows my screen in the client, and I see no scrollback...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: (the lasertag map is incorrect the next time I play)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just don't map the lasertag zone then? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "the zmud map" is a little bit vague
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: the mushclient tries to map everything...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ...are you using mushclient or zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: mushclient, actually.. zmud was a mistake to say
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: scroll up.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: use your mouse wheel, page up, or the scroll bar on the right side of your screen. all will let you scroll up.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: but I do see that the mouse wheel works
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: oh, I see.. way over there... heh
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: silly me thought it would be attached to the window it scrolled
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're probably looking for the mapper purgezone function
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, that confused me too :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 'mapper purgezone lasertwo' should clear the laser zone map
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hey, what's laserone?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: yep.. purgezone sounds right
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: laserone was a fixed map area
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: lasertwo appears to have fixed exits instead of random
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: all the exits are fixed
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's really just a 15x15 square, but there's some walls in it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Exits aren't random, the map is randomized at run-time
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: and the walls change from game to game
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh, I didn't realize. Yeah I remember lasher showing me something about that
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: yes.. that's what I meant.. the mapper doesn't imagine that could happen
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just make a trigger on the lasertag game ended message to purge the zone then
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: heh 'mapper quest' doesn't show the Philosophes guy, even though that's the one I use most often :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Add him in notes?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: don't really see the point.. I just run the 4 steps to him
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's actually a game-side issue. there's nothing mudside indicating that the room has a questor in it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: client-side, you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: is there in other rooms?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no I don't
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I mean game-side
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Game-side does several parts of the GMCP Mapper.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: oh something like a room-flag that says it has a questor?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i don't recall there being a questor flag in gmcp, could be wrong though
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oh, you mean on the map?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there isn't, but I believe there's supposed to be
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there are questor flags on preloaded rooms in the map database distributed with the client, but for some reason they aren't being sent by the mud
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: so if you go back to those rooms the mud information overwrites the previous information (because it's different) and the flag gets erased
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I suggest writing a note on the bugs board about it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I guess I have a different project, looking at all my results for 'mapper unmapped' :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'm trying to configure the potion quaffer for mushclient, but when I try to get it to detect the potions in the bag, it just says 'You don't see that here.'. Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes there is a bug that a single potion will not be detected
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you need at least 2 in the bag
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I've got 20 of each. Just thought, does the 'pots' command handle id numbers as well as names? I've defined the bag using it's number.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes it can
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: did you write the healpot desc exactly?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if it says you don't see that here, sounds like it's not even finding the bag...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I think so, set my heal to 'Healer's Ballad' and mana to 'Lotus Bud'
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It finds it ok when buying them, just not when doing 'pots'
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so when you buy them they go into the bag, but when you do pots the bag is not found?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Exactly
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: o.0 try redefining the bag, if you're using an aardbag might be better to use its (idnumber) like that
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Does it matter that I've not defined a buff potion?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: no it does not matter
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I'm using the id number already
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: would mccp help my client not close when i use runto?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: probably
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: do you have maprun on?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: maprun off might help too
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mccp helps everything.. including your qp reserves
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yes i have maprun on but i like it better
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but i was trying to find a way to keep maprun and not have it close on me
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: that might be why you disconnect as well
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: try turning mccp on
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I can't think of a single reason not to use MCCP.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well i was trying to avoid downloading something to make mccp work
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: because your client doesn't support it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: putty does not support it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: o.O You're using putty for aard?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: yes i am
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Why?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: mainly because i dont want to download a bunch of stuff on someone elses computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i wrote my one telnet program in dos 5.0 using qbasic beat that
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide cowers in a corner and whimpers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Obtain <$20, buy a very small flash drive, get aardclient. Be happy.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i have a 1gb flashdrive the school gave me :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: "use for school papers" aard is school related
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide agrees with the voices in his head again.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: And what's stopping you from running MUSH on it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: its not here and i didnt htink about it until you said something
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Done and done. All problems gone.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide is agreeing with that Xaxz person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: winrar is free right?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ya
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: the trial is
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: just use 7zip
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: 7zip is good
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Also free
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: get old school and use pkzip
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: and can do anything winrar can
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger . o O ( and then some )
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The UI is uglier than a horse's, butt though
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: or gzip and tar
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Meh, who needs a UI, just right click, 7zip, add to archive, choose format, done
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: See the ui for all of 10s
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: or use windows built in archives
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I don't use UI's at all - I'm on xmonad on linux
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Just saying
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, zip -19qm ftw
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's not possible to not use a ui :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: 10s or 2s?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, I mean I don't use much besides CLI
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: 10s if you don't know where you're clicking ahead of time (read: first time user)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: and cli isn't a ui?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: the "ugly as butt" implies GUI, so yes you can :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Something not visual can't be 'ugly' :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I forgot the G, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oh, thought you were referring to the 10 kinds of people joke.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams at Entopee and generously forgives them.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: There are only 10 kinds of people on this words. People who understand binary, and people who don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: words=world
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hey i've seen that t-shirt
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Cheezburger: ever configured sendmail? Or coded pearl? Things can be ugly, even if nonvisual.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i'm sure the joke didn't originate on a t-shirt :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: have you seen the nintendo dress?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: try your hand at lisp see if you dont get a headache
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not 'ugly' in the sense of how he used it, was gonna clarify but didn't expect someone to nitpick :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Or try debugging someone's buggy ass script without comments and references and var names that make no logical sense. That's 'ugly' :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Nothing wrong with lisp. It's lambda calculus with a bunch of syntactic sugar on top. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: don't forget no indentation, cheez ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: or new lines :)
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: lol, even worse :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a long time ago, someone created this dress that used some sort of optic-fiber fabric (ie, the dress itself was the screen). You could plug in your controller and play video games on your hot date.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Someone tried writing a Lua script, then asked for help. All one line. I wanted to scream at them
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Don't wear that dress to the airport....warning!
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Indentation and line feeds doesn't matter. A pretty printer can fix those things. Variables named data1, data3, value5, and value6 cannot be fixed by anyone. They should just be shot.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: how hot is she really if you need to play video games on her? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: geek is the new cool, so there's a great chance for hotness even if she were socially awkward.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nah, worse than that. if ($var > $varone - $vartwo ^ ($varone - $vartwo)) {$varthree=&runscript($varone, $vartwo);}
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hey! How'd you get hold of my script?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge falls down laughing.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It's pretty bad when you have to comment out 90% of a script just to decide wtf a variable is coming from.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: the mccp did help btw if anyone was wondering
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Awesome.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: also helped run smoother internet connection
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i dont lag out and stuff now
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: haha and you get 2 extra qp
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: ^ Most significant part of MCCP, equivalent to 2 tiers
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: Yeah that extra 2qps helps a lot in the long run
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Although I guess not being able to play because of lag is a detrimental problem
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: its not really that it helps, but it doesn't really affect anything on your end by enabling it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: or if you're playing on a mobile platform
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: seems like it does
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: could be because everyone else is off this connection
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: does mush support mccp?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeap
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: cause i found mush on this computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: and gmcp whatever that is
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: neat
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: i dont know what either mean nm
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: scripts and all that goodness too?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: guess that would be what the scripting button is for :P
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: gmcp is an updated version of telnet suboptions. Both are ways to send data to the client without spamming the user
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: would anyone know why teamviewer wont connect to a computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: can ping to the computer?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i dono if i can ping have not tried but i can send a message through TV to the computer ... in all honesty im sitting 1 foot from the other computer
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i just downloaded eset to try it could that be messing with it?
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: definitely could
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: make sure your firewall isn't blocking it
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: firewall, check your if teamviewer is whitelisted
T3/r3/2011-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: the other computer can connect to this one just when i switch sides i dont get the box to control the other one
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know a linux way to macro specific keys? ie, KP_8 to do something. AutoKey comes close, but it just substitutes it instead of sends it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that would be dependant on your window manager
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: looks like awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: The default ubuntu 10.10
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, so gnome then.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, comes close but i can't send to a window
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You mean you want to make one key do a lot of things? Or you want one key to do something completely different?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ie, AutoKey i can define that if the window has then send instead of key
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure you can, just call a script that enters keypresses
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: You have an example of what that script would look like?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: xdotool key alt+Tab
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: with the usual hasbang at first line of course
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Can't do KP_8, it reads keypad as normal button
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ie, KP_8 sends as just 8
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, but you can use xmodmap to map that physical key to something else that can be used. Use something you don't normally use.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: e.g. an umlaut or something
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: anyone know howto make tag settings stable (permanent even after quitting), at least the channels tags seem to be turned ON for some reason when logging on
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: are you using the aard mush client?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coss Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: it has a init script that turns them on for channel capture etc. but i know nothing about mush so no idea how to remove/modify it
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: anyone know how to disable facebook chat on the site? i'm already using it over jabber, i don't want the windows popping up on the site either and half of the lines going to messages because it thinks i'm offline for some reason
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Awq brushes the dust of mickies.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ick Tech: newb I wanna be able to click sub-descriptional texts//singular words in the display-window and have another window react back to the mudserver with specifics requests
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: any car expertise here?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: press the brake to make it stop
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: shift gear into reverse while going at 60km
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox grins mischievously.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Reina goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: mean little kuro
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: lol I saw it on some comic, about this dog asking what did the reverse gear do.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: what do you guys figure about this article? http://cryptome.org/0003/fbi-backdoors.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: talking about openbsd, tax evasion and ipsec
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i just stumbled upon the site while searching for random chaotic topics through google, it has some interesting idea's on it
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: meh is why i use windows. at least then you know its about as secure as a sieve and behave accordingly
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: hahaha, that's why i use it too
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: gotta be a master of electricity and a master of coding it in order to make sure your kernel's clean, and that requires alot of time
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its when you use allegedly secure os's that things go wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: coughapplecough
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it stems from a VERY disgruntled and imbalanced guy looking to make some money, rather than stemming from anything accurate
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: greg, the guy claiming the issues has seriously misstated quite a few facts, down to the level of who he was actually working for at the time
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but this is all pretty old news, been hashed to death for months
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: have now tried 3 times to get the latest aardclient from the google code page. every time it gets to 19.4% and hangs. anyone else have that issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, downloaded in a couple seconds for me
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Same here.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: for me it worked fine, from the link from the aardwolf page. I run it in a windows emulator, but not in the programs directory. install it somewhere else, because of write permissions
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just downloaded it. It took 30 seconds.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: meh must be my internets then. they fell on their bum again methinks. thats what you get using a 3g connection when its rainining
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: or is there a newer version than mush 4.72?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient has not released a new version since Feburary.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: wish they would. needs to have support for mp3 sounds. wav sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: then i have the latest. worked fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Post a note on MUSHclient's forums about it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jerome, he's talking about the packaged portable release complete with a buttload of useful aard scripts, not just mushclient itself
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: yup I downloaded the aardversion with the GMCP mapper, the group plugin etc
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yep. find i cant mud without my mapper anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the way fiendish is actively maintaining the aard releases, you really shouldn't need to download from gammon's site anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: is there any way to add a custom exit manually for the mapper? the mob prog takes longer than the 2seconds to activate so it doesnt capture it on mapper with cexit
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not that I know of.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: darn:P
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: okay.. what would cause my browser to stop working, my VPN connection to stop working, but mushclient to go on as if nothing's wrong?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: dns problem?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I called up tracert ... it was able to get numbers from a dns -- seems like it got stuck on a dslrouter... but I wonder why mushclient doesn't suffer from that
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: in fact, tracrt aardmud.org also gets stuck at that same dslrouter
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: malfunctioning nat probably
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: strange that she's still connected to the mud though, ranrr...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, it's an open connection
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: existing connection might work fine, but not new
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: my open VPN connection shut down...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that's probably udp so it might be different
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: eh? telnet uses tcp
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for non-connectionless communications, the standard behavior is to not do packet-based routing, i.e. once a route is created, that route is always used
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gonf, vpn is not telnet
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: oh, sorry, wasn't paying attention :/
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: no abe, youre wrong, each packet is independant of others. Now, there may be route caching, but that's only ok as the per packet behaviour is conserved
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: This is IP, not SONET
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: tracert would only use packets, I'd think... and those aren't getting through
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr, that's not true, it depends on the router's configuration
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, you're wrong.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an open connection on a router, with most standard configurations, will not reroute
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes it will.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Except perhaps on a NAT device, but that's not routing.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then perhaps you should tell cisco that they don't know how their own equipment operates
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: They do, you don't.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just because a route lookup is cached, doesn't mean there won't be a reroute if the network changes.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they do, you're correct, which is why they teach it properly
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how the network changes
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frozone Tech: is there a plugin to fully have a map explored , instead of going and exploring all the rooms to have all the rooms on your map explored ??
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: frozone, no
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: The heck? Are you actually suggesting that flow-based routing has any meaningful existence except at the very edge?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No. You have to do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that sounds a lot like a bot...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: Whats a bot?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Flow based routing is not used, except sometimes for qos.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That's absurd. No core router has the memory or the time to maintain a state table like that.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But very rarely.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Exactly. Which is why each pcket is independant of other packets.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No router (except a NAT device, which is not a router) maintains states except for caching and statistics.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Well, any stateful firewall has to maintain state. I s'pose strictly speaking that isn't _exactly_ a router, though a non-routing firewall is... well, pretty effective, to be sure ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Still, that's unlikely to bear on the routing decision in any but very edge (so to speak) cases.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: True. There are other reasons to keep state as well, like IDS.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: With a lot of work, I could probably dream up a situation where you'd want that sort of information outside of your own AS. But it would take some doing.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Inter-as DDOS protection maybe.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: on this subject i have a pretty basic question :P
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: I'd lay money there's been no case of that happening end to end across the public IP network since it stopped being a research project, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: 17. That's your answer.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: Thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: but What i was going to ask was i havent decided if i wanted to get a CCNA or MCSA anyone know what one would be more useful?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Erikson blinks innocently.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Do you want to work with cisco equipment or microsoft servers?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: That's like asking whether you should buy a car or a teacup..
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: depends on whats more in the area
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Choose whatever you like best. You'll probably find jobs with both of those under the belt.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: well ive been told it depends on wher ei live and all that goodness
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd choose CCNA, but that's because I like networking and hate ms. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Yeah. If you're in San Francisco, get a CCNA. If you're in Redmond, get the MCSA.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Anyone here used an Arduino with the PS2Keyboard library?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: How can I capture the " character in regexp?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: \"
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That isn't working inside a LUA trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I should say, I'm capturing it in a set [\"] doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: (\")(.*)(\")
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuala Tech: Kirby!
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: erm..." isn't a special character in regex anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Attribute name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with ")" (Cannot load)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuala does the Kirby <('')> ^('')^ <<('') ^('')^ ('')>> <('')> Dance!
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you can just use "
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: <(o_o<)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm still getting the same error...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It's ending the match="" section
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that error doesn't sound like it has anything to do with a "...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Turn off regexp and try to glob match it?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: LUA trigger match="blahblah ["]* " will end the match="" section and try to start a new trigger attribute
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: MUSHClient trigger, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: aaah
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: match='blahblahblah\"'
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: lol, I should mention, the idea is to capture mob long_names. There are ' as well as " in some mob names.. so switching will still break one or the other
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: use roomchars tags for that
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I am.. I capture everything just fine.. until I try to add quotes to the captures
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just match on anything, .+
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can't... it'll capture auras
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Must use regexp for this.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ok, so (\(.+\))*(.+)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so do (\(G\)|\(R\)|etc)? .* ([TARGET])?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: hmm, that won't work if there's parentheses in the mob's name though
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Sure it will
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: .* is too greedy, it'll capture too much. lol There's no workaround.. I just need to find an alternate means for the double quotes character..
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if escaping it doesn't work, your lua parser sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Write a trigger in mush with a " and a ' in it, and export it, see how it changes the xml version to accomodate.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I didn't write the code, lol... it's MUSHClient. Ummm isn't " the same as something like "
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I didn't write the code, lol... it's MUSHClient. Ummm isn't " the same as something like " or something like that?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's a good idea, Cheez
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods, " and &dquot iirc
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, that would probably get it past the parser actually, but i dunno if it'll match it after
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if not, it's a worthy bug to write to gammon about
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ahh, that's it... have to use " inside the match attributes. Thanks for the suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Np
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: will it match it now though?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm testing
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yep. Works just fine.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: cool, will remember that
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Can use single quotes without a problem, but MUSH version of double quotes must be "
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Could be
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: is there a way to bypass this "download entity too large" error for my blackberry? i'm trying to download v6 but i dont have the usb to my computer
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: V6?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: os 6.0
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: or the new version of the blackberry
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: are you downloading from the website,desktop manager or your phone
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: yeah v6.0.2
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: easiest way is download blackberry desktop manager
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: trying to download from my phone
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i know gruagach :( but i dont have the usb... lol
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: ooo
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: lol.. umm
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: i'm unintentionally making my life hard for myself
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: go buy one for $3 at any pc supply store
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: I don't think you can ota that update to be honest
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: oh. well figured i'd try since i had 1 gb free internet usage a month.. might as well i thought
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: anyone know if there
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I know if. It's easy.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: if there is way to reset a cmud maps dimensions back to the original length/width
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But do you know if there?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: sorry had to jump into another window to calculate postage forgot to finish sentance
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee :P
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there is no way to arbitrarily set map dimensions in CMud.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mars sniffs sadly.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: well poo
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you CAN, however, choose the Zone|Refresh menu option to force a recalculation, which will set the boundaries to just beyond the farthest rooms to the left, top, right, and bottom.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: well what i'm trying to do is set the map back rooms back to even length apart all in straight lines without having to do 3000+ rooms manually per continent
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: when I mapped a few of the continents i pulled/pushed individual rooms around to make the names match up for areas that have multiple entrances.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: now with areas being removed, or redone, it's gonna be a pain shifting the map rooms around, considering i can't get it all to fit in one screen
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mars Tech: so it's in good order again
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: hey their.. something happend and my input font changed. how do i change it back.. and sorry using mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witblitz Tech: nvm i just reloaded defaults
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: is it just me or is microsoft excell completely worthless?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: It's just you.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: just you
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Few programs are completely useless.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Magish Tech: It's FANTASTIC once you manage to learn it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: excel is actually pretty powerful
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: the business world loves it.. you can do charts graphs all the stuff that gives managers a boner
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: is there a freeware open source program thats actually recognizes friggen numbers?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: One of the few products Microsoft was right on
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: because when i try to multiply two values, it doesn't execute
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you have to create formula in one cell that combines to other cells
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Sounds like a user error to me, not a problem with Excel.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: did that, sum(bleh*bleh)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: You don't have to create a formula which combines cells, but you do have to do your multiplication properly.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: sum isn't multiplication.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: ok, so in e2 i have 862.11 and in e3 i have .0135333, and f2 i have =e2*e3. and I get #VALUE
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: what am I doing wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: besides everything
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are both the other cells set to number?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: fourier transformation?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Did you click on the warning message and see what the error is?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: you know what, for some reason my computer is set to european style numbers, so my 862.11 wasn't real, it needed to be 862,11
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i'm stupid
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: and this might have been my problem with the other things i've been trying to do for the last hour
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: sorry guys i won't bother unless i have a real problem now
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: any ideas on a good non laggy remote access program so I can play mud away from home? lol
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there aren't any. The very nature of remote access means you are adding lag on purpose.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Now why would you do that instead of connecting directly?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: hmm eg playing from iphone etc
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: and so I can keep the client settings I normally use i suppose..
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: copy the client directory to a flash drive?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Techno Tech: on nvm, missed the iphone part
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: anyone know a ballpark % degredation in speed from a PC-WiFi Router-Cable modem ethernet connection vs. just directly from the modem-pc ? 25%
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your question is not meaningful
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: well, is there an average on how much slower a hardwirted connection becomes with an additional layer ?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: where do you live? how fast is your cable modem?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what kind of wifi?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: florida 24Mbs
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Veck, are you answering for Mushambo?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i just wanted to brag about my awesome connection
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Texas, 25mbps stated
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you can get a full length movie in less then 20 minutes
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish yawns at Veck.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what kind of wifi router?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Which means I get about 13 with a direct connection...goes all the way down to 3-4 if I plug in via the wifi router...just curious if that's typical...seems high
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: shall I ask a third time?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Linksys wrt54g
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if your 802.11g wap so significantly reduces your performance, then you've likely got wicked signal interference
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: anyone tried out goosh.org?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Is there a way to have the mapper open doors when using any of the mapper speedwalk commands? (Aard Mush client)
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use a cexit to open doors?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: actions responding to the doors?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But will the cexit work? Because I'm not technically going anywhere
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Do I do mapper cexit open n
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use a cexit like open n;n
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you can stack commands
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ah, ok - thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: how do you pop out a semi-colon in texts here?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Have to change your delimiter in-client
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: same way you get use two of them.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: kk
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: same way you get @, use two of them.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: [:@w
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: just use two of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: [:r
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: [:r;
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is there any type of colour code you can use in a string that will be parsed in the print function for lua in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or is the only option to use colourtell
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can use ColourNote
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mm, same, but i want something that can be manipulated again with the various string functions
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah...I wasn't ever able to find anything like that, sorry.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ansinote?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn shakes his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm looking for something where i could create s string, with various colour codes, manipulate it with string functions, then finally print it
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i don't think there is anything like that in mush...
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok :/
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: that reminds me of something I would love to do with a client, but now I forget again
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shiruyumi Tech: Anyone able to help quick with some java programming?
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you could redefine it as a shadow variable
T3/r3/2011-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mis, but you got it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i have a sql DB with a field that has a a value that repeats but i only want to show the value once not multiple times, is there a way to do this with php?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: distinct
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you don't have to do it in php
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: try adding DISTINCT keyword to your query?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: the website i want to use it for is coded in php thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yes but you can modify your SQL such that you don't have to do anything in your php code anymore
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah use distinct for your query, and it will only come out once
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: do a select distinct in your SQL
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: with select distinct can you use multiple fields?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, you can select distinct(var), var, var
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: thanks i was trying && insted of ,
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: np =P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Does cmud have a command to display text in colors other than ANSI?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can't find anything suggesting that it does.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: doest cmud support the new xterm colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: no sir
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: damn
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, what I thought too :(
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: how do you mean? I can see them.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: so my colorsets got reset for no reason
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: can see them, but like, not properly or whatever...or at least it doesn't display correctly in mine when I turn them on...and someone said it didn't work on boards
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: haven't researched it, sounded like it was a known issue by zugg
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: they seem to only display the 16 basic colors + gray
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: huh. well, 'color 256-2' shows a whole host of colors for me in cmud.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nods, seems like about what I saw, and things were flashing that shouldn't have been
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: did you type xterm first?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yup
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: whoops silly me cheez
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: and the text that is shown when it's turned on isn't shown in orange, just blinking white
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: mine was orange
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: mine works!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: but yeah, haven't messed with it, I could be wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: sorry bout that
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: my cmud xterm color works properly
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: good, glad to hear I was mislead by notes then, will take a look at why mine won't work, grin
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: 256 colors is kickass :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: now this will work anywhere i can put a color code right
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: hmm....well, now that you mention it, it doesn't seem to be completely working. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Travis Tech: sexmobile!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Tag is @x### where ### is anything from 000-256
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: and it can do ugly stuff like this.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: color 178 for instance (orange?) works with 'echo', but not gtell.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: works for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I'ma just go mush after I get to SH, no sense fighting much longer with cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: too much nifty work being done there and such
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: ftalk works, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: lol i tried 178 it with xterm off and it was this color was weird
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: test
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: hmm....ok, tech works for me too. ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i also use the 256 colors in some of my scripts using >
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: those have always worked for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killianna Tech: can someone help me? i was wondering how can i load the VI map attatchment for the map of Kerofk from my computer
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Killianna Tech: it gives me programs to open it up with but im not sure which to choose
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: sorry, dunno
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Redryn goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox smacks Redryn out of his boots with a sign reading "NO !!"
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: we don't know
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Please just go
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone use mush/styles table for triggers?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: for some reason my styles table is giving me really weird values
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: "backcolour"=29314800 "text"="You get " "length"=8 "style"=4 "textcolour"=442745336
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I doubt it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what's wrong with that?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is that a valid colour?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: lua colors are integers
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wait
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's a lot of digits
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea..
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i used rgbcolourtoname, it does give a colour, but it's wrong
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that function is worthless anyway
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah.. i copied that script from your chat window thing :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in any case, this is the pattern it's suppose to match, not sure if it affects it: ^(?!(.* receive(?:s|) d* experience point(?:s|).|(.*) receive (.*) bonus experience points(?:.*)))
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: rgbcolortoname is only meaningful if the color has a name
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what is this for?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: match anything that appears after gaining exp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: trying to gag exp gained in groups and consolidate to 1 line
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: why do you need colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so i can print the exp gained above this line matched
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: then recreate the line that was matched underneath
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: just printing consolidated line will appear one line down, which looks weird to me!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: first of all your pattern is garbage
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss goes, 'Redryn just got PWNED!'
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that shouldn't change how the styles table gets outputted right? :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: give me a proper pattern that works and I'll test it for you
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean by 'works'? it fires properly for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I don't believe you. your pattern explodes every time my prompt comes up
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's supposed to. it should match /anything/ that is not 'you receive blah exp points'
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's disgusting
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss giggles at himself -- he must be nervous or something.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: of course i only enable it after seeing the receive blah exp points :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which specific line matches that has bad colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: You get 5,131 gold coins from the unholy corpse of a sly fox.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: wtf
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox sticks Redryn in a garbage can and rolls him away!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: mmm, garbage
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what, only a sly fox?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: how rude!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well, that's the last mob i killed
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox looks at Redryn and mutters something nasty under his breath.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but so far all the money lines have given me errors
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i didn't have a problem with quest complete line
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sec, lemme scroll up
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Congratulations hero. You have increased your powers! gave me a "textcolour"=12632256
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: 1: "backcolour"=0 "text"="You get " "length"=8 "style"=0 "textcolour"=12632256
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 12632256 is correct? :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's white
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: granted I just triggered on You get .* coins from...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, the problem seems to be with this trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because i've used the styles table in other ones without much problem
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: without any problem even
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: with this trigger though, that getting gold line shows as orange on bright pink background ):
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: should be arrested for crimes against colour
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: match="^(?!.* receive(?:s|) \d* experience point(?:s|)\.)"
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: can try that trigger, though it would trigger on practically everything too :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: does it also exhibit this behavior?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: echo @wYou get @Y6,178@w gold coins from the unholy corpse of a bandit.@w ?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you're doing something wrong other than the capture
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm starting to think so too
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the weird behaviour occurs if the line starts with you get
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I blame something you're doing
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have a feeling another script is messing with it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ugh. bedtime
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: somehow
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ok. there was another script that triggered on the same line that was screwing it up somehow. I don't know why.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just have the gq bot script trigger on something else!?!?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox snuggles up to Redryn.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: sweeeeeet. now i have deluge connected to my home seedbox as a thin client :')
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: honest to god: wtf is wrong with my macbook? It's been working like a dream for about a year now, and just yesterday it suddenly started lagging
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: and widgets manager keeps freezing
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's an apple product, don't expect too much.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I downloaded two new widgets but I deleted them (they weren't good) and now it's running like crap
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Kurojiryuu, I'd take an apple anyday over a PC
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: might still be in the plist
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: plist?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux. It's what works. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: property list.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: a reboot usually helps?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so you'd be willing to pay twice the amount for the same hardware? I see =D
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: how do I access the property list?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Linux: either it works or not. Rarely inbetween. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: repair permissions and check the disk and all that mumbo jumbo
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Kurojiryuu, have you tried to use a mac for a longer (preferrably over 1 day) at a time?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what gramdel said works too
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I worked on one.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i still think linux is evil. lulls you into a false sense of security thinking it wont crash so you caught off guard when it does. i prefer windows. i know its gonna crash so am always prepared for it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Well I think OSX10 is the best system I've ever used, coming from having using all the windows systems from 3.1 to vista
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Linux never crashes! It's always a problem caused by lack of experience.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: And I love how I've never had a problem with this computer. Now it's acting like crap. I'm treating it wrong. :/
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Evidently its not as stable as XP then. I agree Vista was bad, but win7 is okay.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: XP's a joke
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: no ME was the joke
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: oH god yes :D
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: wasn't very funny tho
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Windows RG
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: ReallyGood edition
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i've heard good things about windows mojave
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Mojave is almost like mohawk, and indians kick ass
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thing i dont understand is why the **** does an operating system need over a gb of ram???
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've actually used windows 1.0, back in -86 or so. Completely unusable.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: why not, ozu?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Windows 1.0 sounds hardcore
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: when computers come with 3-4 gigs of it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: might as well make use of it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: seriously win xp idle sat at about 200mb on my system. change os. nothing else and it idles at 1gb?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: believe it or now, high ram usage actually makes the os faster
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Ozu, you seem like the kind of person who builds up a computer from scratch? wink
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft likely believes in sloppy programming
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: an OS that doesn't use all your ram is bad
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and apple doesn't?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: There isn't even a GUI for mouse acceleration on a mac.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't have an issue with ff taking up 1 gig of ram since i still have plenty of it available
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that's why i have the ram sticks installed - so that the software could use it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: if implemented properly yes it can create massive speed advantages but when last did ms do anything properly. i have an issue with it just using ram for the sake of using ram and then falling over as there isnt enough ram for an app to use. would rather go back to the old dos days when the os was small and used almost no ram and let the flippen apps sort themselves out
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: well, you can strip down the standard install
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: microsoft. the official home of bloatware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a big problem is that programmers today only learn languages with implicit memory management like java
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: they don't even know how much memory their programs use
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: lol, java eats all the ram it can find
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: 16 gigs? no problem, java will take care of it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there a way to set/restrict Java's memory quota?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: i would switch to linux as i honestly do believe it to be better than anything ms has released since ms-dos 3.0 but i just couldnt be arsed learning what basically seems like a new programming language just to get a flippen modem to work
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no os is ideal
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: if linux gets its driver and hardware installation issues sorted then ms is doomed is my prediction
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: modem? What's this, 1995? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: there is no universal "good" os
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it all depends on your goals
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Ozu: a lot of devices work fine without issues on Linux.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trurien is agreeing with that Dagnir person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: altho bashing microsoft is really popular
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: still
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: It always is.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: they get the flac even when they put out great products
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: flak*
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Though I do a lot less of it now. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: MS actually do make some good products.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: sadly i use a 3g device from huaweii. have tried on 3-4 different versions of ubuntu and no flippen dice. the seriously funny part is that when asking for advice i get told to get the drivers from the internet. ummm getting on the internet is the problem heh.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How does windows 7 pro compare to win Xp pro?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: All of them are HW though. Like mice, keyboards and some gaming stuff.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: their latest desktop software is great. w7, mse, windows firewall
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: dagnir you said all that with a straight face
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: 7 is better than xp in some ways. worse in others
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: worse in what way?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: rumor by nonwindows users is that Win7 is bloated compared to WinXP
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's usually the people who don't upgrade their hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What I really dislike with MS is the lack of stuff coming with the OS. How am I supposed to use an OS that comes without a compiler?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: for some reason my copy has issues with office 2007. and im not the only one. theres a kb article on it. it randomly sets the ms word exe to run as admin. you can then open a doc from inside word but not by double clicking the doc
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i haven't used ms office for half a decade, i think
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: so if someone mails me a .doc, i gotta save it, open word and then go file open to view it until i go remove the run as admin option
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: the computers at school have that problem, it's really annoying
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use a later version of office?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but w7 = bloat talk is bull. cmon, the os came 11(!) years after the xp. i don't understand why people expect it to use the same amount of resources
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: office2010 has no issue with that
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: w7 is a great os if you run it on modern hardware like a sane person would
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: myrkul in the office directory, go to properties of the ms word exe and check for the run as admin checkbox. 90% chance thats the issue
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: yeah, that works great once, then as soon as you reboot it resets :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is another issue. How is the OS going to be secure if you need to run half your programs as admin?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i can't fix their computers cause of the deep freeze, and the techs can't be bothered to fix a small problem like that on a few hundred computers
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: of course, you wouldn't want to use anything below ultimate tho
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: well, at least its not as bad as excel on mac, where you can't copy datetime formatted text without the values changing.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: you don't myrkul
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's not ms's fault - it's the people who write the software
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: hmm?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: assuming their soft can write anywhere they damn please
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: w7 and it's *nix-like security is great
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i don't what?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i have no idea about corporate environments tho
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thinking it may be time to just bite the bullet and move over to *nix
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: if you like the software available to you, why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: many of my customers are just now moving to W7
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i, for one, don't like linux desktop. i run linux on my servers and it's great
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: mainly because they're moving to newer hardware too
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: xp hardware support sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: The choice is yours, as always. Just read the backlog about your huawei stick, sorry about that. :P I don't have much experience there either.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Didn't have problems getting a surf stick to work on my Ubuntu, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't remember the make of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: what does "Erase free space" do?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the amount of microsoft bloat is outpacing the amount of hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: divide by zero?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: also, linux audio support is crap. it doesn't support my external soundcard, the onboard sound output is terrible. i can't use my favourite soft like foobar2k, notepad++ etc
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: give us an example, xyliz. i don't see the bloat
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: erase free space = make free space unrecoverable
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: so that the deleted files are proper-deleted
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how many more CDs to hold Win7 than WinXP
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: ...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: we're not talking about disk space...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Xyliz, does a game of this age fit on a floppy?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: windows 7 only takes up a tiny % of a modern hard drive
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but only because modern harddrives are 100x to 1000x bigger these days
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: yay for idiots who expect a new os fit their old hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu rapidly nods twice at Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: xp takes more resource than w95. boo-hoo
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: seriously, get with the times.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and oh sweet jesus - w95 is full of bloat compared to w3.1
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: interestingly enough, I find it more of a hassle running really old games on win xp/7 :p
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: damn you, microsoft, damn you!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: dosbox performance seems to vary quite a bit between games
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: actually i disagree with that. why should upgrading an os require upgrading hardware. going from ubuntu 9 to ubuntu 10 doesnt require more resources as the os is written to take into account people who cant just buy new pc equipment when they feel like it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir hides his face in his palm after seeing what Ozu did.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: because the new os has more features, and better graphics?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its perfectly reasonable to exp[ect the high end features of an os to only kick in if the hardware support for them is there
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: w7 came out a DECADE after xp. get a clue
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: in a business/commercial setting, one of the main drivers is security updates/patches
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz used to look at the compare speeds of MsDos COMP.EXE from version to version -- later versions doubled the size and halved the speed
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yes because it is reasonable of ms to assume that everyone on the planet has a 2gb top of the range video card and they upgrade them every 2-3 months??
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: my intel gma runs aero just fine
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not that i have it turned on
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: no it isn't if you don't have reasonable hardware stick to older versions
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but seriously - how can you whine over modern operating system requiring modern hardware?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: my 3 yr old laptop runs win7 just fine.. wish I had 2gb gpu though!
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yes dagnir it did come out a decade after. however i bought a laptop 2 weeks before 7 came out. it came with xp. but under what you saying i should buy a new one because this one runs xp fine and its wrtong to assume it will run 7 fine?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: my punch card machine won't run win7 :(
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: you can, because the hardware still works, but you can't use old software due to security reasons
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Ozu it should run win7. did you even try?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zarquil complains about lack of paperterminal support these days
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: umm im using 7 pro atm
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: so you bought an xp laptop and got upset because it's not good enough to run 7? great job
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a lot of that extra bloat may be from lazy programmers using inefficient C++ instead of C
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav twitches nervously.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: that is if the laptop has up to date hardware at the time it was bought.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: hell, w7 works fine even on a prescott with ht if you put some extra ram in it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: core2duo with 4gb ram it runs 7 perfectly fine thank you. i just disagree with the concept that unless you bought the top of the range hardware after the os was released then forget about using it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't want neutered os just because you can't afford an entry-level laptop
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft programers likely do not understand what is going on at the assembler level, so they likely choose inefficient program designs
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: you don't even need top of the range hardware, just a normal modern laptop will do.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: normal, cheap, entry-level laptop even
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's not like you need an i7 for it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: ahh cheap in which country?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: cheapest laptop here is a celeron which is about the cost of 2 months salary for the average person
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: wow where are you
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: boo-hoo
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and where is here?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: cry me a river
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and you expect software development to be aimed at the lowest denominator?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: hell, you can buy a desktop that's capable of running w7 for less than 100 euros here
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: south africa. you looking at 4000 rand odd for a semi decent celeron laptop. latest figures indicate an average monthly salary in the country of 3000 rand.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: ok, and you think you have RIGHT to run the latest os on your crap hardware?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and so you expect people to create new innovative cutting edge software for someone who is earning average pay?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh btw 800 of that 4000 is for the os
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: run a lightweight linux then. or xp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no-one forces you to upgrade to w7
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: microsoft deliberately chose bloated inefficien software design to (1) discourage reverse engineering (2) discourage copying (3) provide an excuse for upgrading (4) force captive users to upgrade hardware
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: great. lets petition microsoft into making w8 compatible with 1GHz celerons then
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: no great stuff. run xp then. then the rest of the world must stop complaining if viruses and botnets coming from third world countries suddenly tripple as the company releasing the os no longer provides patches for holes in their software
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: not that microsoft is providing a great, free antivirus for xp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so you don't pay, and expect service? This world isn't free.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz suspects that microsoft employees are secretly providing the how-to-write-viruses manuals to the hackers
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu suspects Xyliz is a brain dead zombie.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i think you should consult necroshine, xyliz
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz knows because he is one of the MS employees doing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i think this conspiracy theory is as old as w95
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: all it does is makes you sound like an idiot
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Kuro: a lot of good things are for free. Twitter, Facebook...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Aardwolf...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: those are based on freemium business models
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: and microsoft is obviously not employing that business model
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: fb isn't really free. the thing is that /you/ are the product ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Nah, as long as I am not paying, it's fine. :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Twitter intends to go commercial eventually if not already
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Well, as long as I don't have to pay, I don't care.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Dagnir: with regards to FB, well, there is that problem. But if you're paranoid enough, you can think of many other ways your information can get sold, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a comedy channel newstalk show interviewed the founder of Twitter -- perhaps anticipate twitter with commercials coming soon
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i guess
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i just think it's a good idea not to have illusions
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Open heart surgery was once thought to be illusion.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't get your point
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: they run test projects in the background on facebook all the time, so it's not the end program you're seeing, only a front - what they're testing is probably often mysterious, and to delete your account doesn't remove your information from their database, plus you have to hunt through google links in order to find a delete account button
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Until something comes to pass, it is more or less an illusion.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: you basically sign away all of your personal information upon using it, unless you think them beyond subpoena's by people with money
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: same thing with google - we're the product
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and i'm fine with it, since i get great services
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Surely it is easier than that to delete your FB account, Necroshine.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: those surgeries are expensive and those that require those surgeries are either defective genetically and or were enjoying bad dietary lifestyles
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: the google android ai systems they got running are interesting, drawing a holistic diagram of everybody who uses it and pattern matching through supercomputers to individualize a surfing experience upon most internet applications
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: they can really mess with your mind through it, cause you expect a non-personalized experience not mirroring your thoughts, but your words in stead
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Oh wait, did you mean *delete* delete or just deactivate?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i seen plenty of instances where things pop up that i never typed in a application, and have no reason to be there beyond somebody messin with my mind or else artificial intelligence programmed to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: And what is wrong with AI giving you suggestions on what you might need?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: this is great reading, if you're paranoid about your privacy: http://xkcd.com/792/
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: deactivate is what i meant by implication of them storing all data you gave them through their site, even if your account is then disabled it still exists for their dissemination
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: All xkcd is great reading.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: true
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but that link fits the topic ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: what's the problem with suggestion's that you don't want to have? they charge you for them at accounting offices, is it charity coming from google?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: They can profit from my account as long as I don't come to harm. It's the Internet. All the stuff you put there should be expected to be public.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: If you want privacy, keep it off the Internet.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: so can i request that every piece of information about me is disconnected from all subvert, obvious and government networks which have outlets to the internet?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You can found a new country with no links to the Internet. There's plenty of small islands in the pacific you can buy.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: cos not, why even bother saying keep it off the internet, when they require basically every business or personal transaction of today to be filtered through it?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: You'd probably have to find it with Google Maps though.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: watch some tv, see their most relationships started over the internet statistics commercialized and things like that, got a ledged record of human interactions to refer to when studying someboyd's life
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm referring to things like FB comments, tweets, and blogs.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Frankly, I'm surprised and disappointed you and Xyliz are both online at the same time. I'd have thought there was only one such person around on Aard and you were alts.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is someone here savvy with mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: me and xyliz have about as much in common as a rattlesnake and a dream of a rattlesnake
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Trurien, if they were alts, how do you explain that Xyliz is usually coherent, and Necroshine is usually incoherent
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: neither of you makes sense half of the time :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so speaking about yourself in third person shows coherence?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: LOL
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Wait... so you dream of being Xyliz?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I'm not sure I can understand that analogy without resorting to heavy hallucinogens.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: But, all kidding aside, I just wanted to say that it's pretty weird trying to understand what you both say at times.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: sounds like a conspiracy started by the catholics to take over the world to cover up the fact that elvis is still alive hanging out with tupac chicken is bad for you if you don't cook it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams with pride.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: there we go, I think that was a winner...everyone just went silent :(
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Don't gloat just yet, I was in another window anyway... and there wasn't much of a conversation to kill :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I was trying to be their third alt :/
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: I was almost going to call you that, but if you can even attempt to call yourself that, then you're automatically disqualified :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone using Bast's plugins? Recently it keeps crashing everytime I request a quest, any idea why?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what is crashing? does mushclient close, or do you get errors in the main window?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mushclient closes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Do you log, and if so, are there anything in them?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: no, I don't keep logs, but all I do is request a quest, and then mushclient closes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There should be an error message showing up too.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: well, without an error message, it is hard to troubleshoot, the first thing I would do, is disable plugins until you figure out which one it is
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: not if the client itself crashes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: waiting for qtime to go down
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what happens if qrequest early
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, nothing?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tried the test trigger function?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what happens if you echo what a qrequest supplies
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Kuro: use Game->Test Trigger and copy/paste your last quest request in there, then you can keep trying it until you figure out the problem plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah I just did, and it didn't crash
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: sounds like either an alias problem, or gmcp related
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: qtrl
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm guessing gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: my alias just does home;q request
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hmm, if that didn't crash it then I would disable broadcast_quest and miniwin_quest/miniwin_events the next time you request a quest and see if either of those are the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods at Bast.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: bast, fixed it, reinstalled miniwin_quest and broadcastQuest before requesting one
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Good, glad it was something that easy :)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: thanks for the shiny plugins =D
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I wonder what happened with Redryn's color style issue
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: he fixed it somehow
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: i messed something up.. the map is output in the main window instead of the map window.. how do i correct that?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: tags map on?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: it seems irrelevant, tags map on or off
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: It's not
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: That's what catches the map
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: on
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: my global tags option was off.. thank
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: bast, you still here?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the crashing seems to be related with the miniwinquest and broadcast quest, I disabled them and there isn't a crash
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: after that reinstall that one time it worked, it crashed again
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: could it be the database that keeps track of quests
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it could be, disable statdb, reenable the other two and see if it still crashes
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: bast i got this error after I reinstalled and enabled broadcast quest and miniwin quest
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: http://pastebin.com/vqY7wKX3
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I define a variable in lua?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I tried just PotsQuaffed = 1, but it didn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How do I NOTE a variable in LUA?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Note PotsQuaffed doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: how to toggle {chan ch=barter} ?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: tags channels off
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: ty
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: okay.. somehow both the top and bottom boundaries of my mushclient have expanded beyond the edge of the screen... how do I resize it back so I can see them?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "aardinit"?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: unknown command...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: hmm... one sec, I'll find it
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i think it's aardreset...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: nope.. not that either :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Try initaard?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I think there must've been some accidental hotkey or sometihng that expanded this thing
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: nope. not that either, it seems
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: aardinit, initaard, etc.. all got set thru the client to aard, by the way
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it was on that little popup the first time you open the client... :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: that's not much help i guess
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: heh.
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: let me step into my little time machine here...
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: I suppose I could get the task manager to lower the boom, and see if the next incarnation is back down to size... :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You're using the aard_layout.xml plugin? It's "resetaard"
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ah, i was close :P
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: hm.. rseetaard only shrunk the main output window.. had no effect on anything else
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ohhh.. the whole window is resized.. I see
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: with the window in focus: Alt->SpaceBar, then select maximize
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: heh.. and that main output window is partly behind the others and doesn't want to be dragged.. fortunately, I can still see the communication log window
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just gotta find the hotspot on the bottom-right of the main screen
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: alt spacebar has no effect on the overall display or the main output window
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: time for the task manager hammer
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't understand, is the entire mushclient window resized, or is the output window resized?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Audreyiv Tech: big hammer worked.. I can even see the stop-maximizing button on the top of the frame
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Anyone know what line I need to look for in changing the number of bars in the Health Bars on Aardwolf MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Anyone here use the Bast spellup plugin? Are any spells that are practiced/learned showing up as not so in the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Never had a problem here..
T3/r3/2011-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm... Sense anger and inertial barrier are both showing as Prac % 1, and Absorb and Timeshifting are both turning up as Not learned
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, try quitting and reopening MUSH to let it reload everything
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Restarting seems to have worked, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: how do i turn off bigmap update for mush mapper?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: bigmap update is a command. you don't turn it off.
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i walked onto a continent and typed bigmap update
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: can i not have it show though?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean you don't like the bigmap view? type bigmap help for options.
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you probably want bigmap off if you don't like that view
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though I can't imagine why
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it's far more useful than seeing mapper tiles on the continents
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: okay i think i got it, thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Siko, are you around?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: guess not
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, bast statmon is showing me as having 7280 pups - I wish...
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: is there a way to retrieve what error caused your client to crash?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: is there a fix for the communication log to show xterm colors and not numbers?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if you're using the aardwolf mushclient, get a newer version
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: in mushclient 4.72
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what version is your chat capture? (see the plugin list)
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: my works fine with the xterm colors, I have the latest version
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: I'm using the set of mudlet enhancements I found on the wiki...how do I get rid of the prompt displaying every tick?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: type autotick
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: eh wait, do you want the --> TICK <-- to be gone too?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: or just the info after it
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: just the info
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there zmud function to find last char in a string
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: there is right in cmud, not sure if it exits in zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: %right that is
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: I am trying to play on a netbook but the view is awful... and suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: talk to turie
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: dont play on a netbook.
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: turie is not on
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: anyone else?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: how to I creply really?? you have the full client loaded though, I bet
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: my stat info at the bottom of the screen is too muc... using java client... how do i reduce it to just the basics... hp... movement...
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: it seems to be listing my strstats too,,,
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: when i play on my netbook, i just remote connect to my other computer
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: so i can get the effect of a really big resolution on a really small screen
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: font's tiny, but all the windows fit
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: i have no
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: i have no maps
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: how do i stop seeing stats on command bar?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You want your prompt to disappear?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: just type 'prompt'
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: nooo.... using javaclienbt
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: seeing stats plus hp and mana and movement
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Can't help you there, I can't even open the java client
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namaste Tech: only want to see hp.. movement... and mana
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: hrm....any reason all my plugins for mush stopped loading? mapper and all?
T3/r3/2011-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: sorry i got dc'd if anyone answered
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: how do i turn this off? {invmon}7,549533994,-1,-1
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: i see it when i use inventory items, i turned the inv tag off and still see it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: invmon
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: see 'tags'
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: awesome thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: my mush client went haywire and had to reinstall so lost all my settings, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: is there a way to turn off the map so you dont see it everytime you move?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: automap
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: thanks ent
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: can you gag on mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'm gagging right now
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: Y U NOT FUNNY!?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No, but seriously, yes, you can
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: how
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have no idea, except I'm gagging
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I wasn't kidding around
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six Tech: man, morons.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The chat plugin is gagging the main output and showing it only in the commlog
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not sure why you're calling me a moron when I just said I was serious
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Lemme take a look at the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech:
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yeah - I'm sorry if you misunderstood me, because I misunderstood you
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: any web developers out there? got an issue with a frameset thats driving me dilly.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: does not compute. Frames are not a part of HTML4. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: frames are dead
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: can you explain the problem?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: frames are -almost- dead
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: designing a very static page for someone. got an iframe that is used to center the page regardless of resolution used. frameset loads a background image. then just used a frame to designate the banner and left / toc frames so the entire thing doesn't always reload. in FF the image shows through the frames as wanted but not in chrome/opera/ie. any clues on how to make a frame within an iframe transparent?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: you shouldn't require frames to do what you've just suggested
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: just drop the frames and use divs and css
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you're probably running into problems because you are mixing html versions and not following the standards
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: dagnir is right, a div with opacity set in the css would work
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: was worried that would be the case. been a long time since i did this so used frames since it was easiest and im not getting paid for it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh well. time to start over i guess
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thankee for the help
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: divs aren't so bad once you get used to them
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: divs are great once you get used to them*
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: though browser differences can annoy the crap out of you
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: easier to tweak css than frames
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: thats the issue im running in to now. site is working perfectly except that the bg image is missing in banner and toc. might just drop a solid colour in them as a bg and be done with it. dont have the energy for this
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: disgraceful :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: want to show us the site?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: this is why i am NOT a web developer.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i hate pages too
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: this holiday i need to learn jsf :-(
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: its not on the net yet dagnir. just doing it on local and then dropping it omn to the guys server for him.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's all about the css if you have a solid cms
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: heh, that kind of rhymed
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh did i mention its a plain html site with maybe 2-3 php scripts. like i said ... static. the site its replacing was last updated 3 years ago
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: oh well back to the grindstone. thanks again folks
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: just rewrite the thing and use divs
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and css for the layout. it's easier than messing with frames
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: divs is the way to go
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why do i have designing webpages... rofl
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: a spin-off from designing women?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can you split a word in letters on zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone know how to capture the error that causes Mushclient to crash?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: look for a core dump and analyze it with a debugger
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do I look for a core dump?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: you'd know if you knew how to use a debugger
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are you running DrWatson or something
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: nope, just that my Mushclient crashes on a quest request now when it used to be okay before.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: mushclient should not crash normally, disable scripting and all plugins and check if it's ok then
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did not Bast suggest how to fix that
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: might want to disable triggers, too
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm, its not his plugins, apparently
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I've been slowly disabling some at a time
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: but I was wondering if there was a way to capture what caused the crash
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: better disable everything and work from a non crashing setup
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: it might be issuing instructions to a defunk help system too, as the non-aard version does resulting in a in-program error which is resolved , but maybe windows 7 crashes at it, if that's what you're using
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I'll see how that goes, but waiting every half an hour to test for a crash is kinda hard =(
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: on mush if i entered a room number wrong how do i reset the alias function "map_goto"
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: since it wont lemme use the mapper function now
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: close and open mush again
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: somebody encountered the same difficulty recently
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: Kurojiryuu grab quest request output from some other client (telnet) and then do testing within mushclient with menu: game -> test trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah I did, it works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's not a trigger, it's something gmcp side which I have no clue about
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: yeah, so it must be gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: my triggers aren't causing the crash
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Bast suggesting reloading the minWindowsomething and a Windowbroadcastsomething module in mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: xyliz, mush crashed even without his plugins enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc keeps logs of Tech
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: well at least you know that the plugins are causing the problem
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, slowly working my way through them
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: every 30 min =(
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: when did the difficulties appear -- likely something you did
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, I'm not too sure, that's the problem =(.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: did you add triggers, change a prompt, change something
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: all I know is that without editing any of my plugins it started crashing one day.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: type alias
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah? there isn't an alias for quest or anything
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps added a mudside alias
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah well, got to go now, thanks for the suggestions!
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: adding a client-side macro/alias/trigger with mismatched something
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps changing to 256 colors
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: accidentally typing something that Aardwolf mistakes as a parameter change to something
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the new mudside change to aliases that interprets semicolons differently
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: heh, that's a long list, but colours might actually be it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: he still needs to track the plugin anyway :)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flat Tech: anyone mudding with an iPad? I'm looking for the best app.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: anyone know of a good droid mud app?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: torchlight
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: never used it, but it pops up every time someone asks that question
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Also the answer to "Anyone know of a good Diablo clone?"
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nethack ?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: borderlands, too
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir slaps Ranrr.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, and I think Dagnir means Blowtorch
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Isn't nethack a diablo clone?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: yeah, that. blowtorch
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats what im on
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: just checked, there are 2 mud clients available for droid
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: ranrr, google nethack
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: there's also andromud
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I _was_ joking.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: sure you were
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ill have to.check.the others out to compare
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think Blowtorch is the general consensus. What's wrong with it?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: it's a phone client?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: correct
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: anyway, it seems that blowtorch has some fancy features like buttons
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: nothing wrong at all actually
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: also mccp support
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And 256 colors ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: the buttons rock.and.the extra 2 qp is nice
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: in my day we didn't have no fancy 'smart phones.' we had stupid phones and we liked it!
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yep carry your brick phone into the disco to be cool
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so far.the only thing ive noticed is that when you type and need to backspace its not responsive
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thargar Tech: suitcase phones
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: so.sometimes.my.input.is.like.this.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: mozilla has been shut down for like 5 minutes, but the music from the window i had open is still playing
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: hell of a buffer
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i'm kind of frightened
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: just close it in tskmgr
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: is the plug in container still running?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: yeah windows sent an error report on that
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: mozilla had dissappeared in task manager by that point. btw how do i know which SVC hosts/other general processes are evil?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: then end process on plugin-container.exe in task manager
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flat Tech: anyone using an iPad app to mud with and have a recommendation for me?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yea one sec
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: lemme think of what its called
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flat hums the Jeopardy theme song
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: iSSH
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: thats what I use
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flat Tech: tks cheez
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: whats an ipad
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RagingFury ducks defensively.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: its pretty good sometimes can get annoying - but it overlays a partial transparent keyboard over the screen so you can see the mud and the keyboard at the same time
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/issh-ssh-vnc-console/id287765826?mt=8
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: aging sort of, just make you dont have a scvhost running :p
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: oops, forgot about color trigs
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i count 8 svchost.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: thats normal
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: and I think last time i tried shutting them down, there was a cascade failure
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: RagingFury just restart the damn computer :)
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: yeah, its used for running tnings on your pc
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: if it starts playing on bootup - then you should shoot it
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: oh the music stopped now, heh
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: or if it keeps playing after you shut it down - then its the radio
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RagingFury is nodding his head so wildly you wonder if it will fall off. No, you hope it will.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i just wonder sometimes what malicious software is running in the background whenever i look at the task manager on my parents comp
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: my parents have a pc at their place tgat turns itself on,I told them unplug it from the wall, if it turns on then...beat the living crap out of itm
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: i see all the maps line starting with - on my main window as well, with mushclient, the last version.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: is there a sound trigger to alert you theres a gquest in your level range?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use the theme from star wars.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: haha epic
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nashville Tech: hello i need help
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: nashville, just close the java and re open it and then login.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: its a color code syntax error in the scripting clashing with the client
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nashville Tech: i know that fixes it, but why does it happen everytime i log on
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nashville Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps you have xterm on?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: if he did that i dont think the game would show up at all, the clients on the site dont support xterm
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: also nash, type 'protocol' and make sure that ansi is checked as on and nothing else for the web client. and type colorset normal.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: how u make ut always buttonvac?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: has anyone bought the PlayBook yet
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: that the BB tablet?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I heard it was not nearly as good as a Ipad.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Turie, I have an iPad 1 and an iPad 2, and I will drop both in a heartbeat for a PlayBook
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sneak: That is rather interesting. How about the Xoom?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Turie, you like the Xoom?
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The specs I saw were better than the IPad hands down.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would love to get my hands on one to see if it is for real.
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: don't really like Android though
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: still would rather get a PlayBook :p
T3/r3/2011-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Does anyone else notice that some barter messages are missed in the commlog? Completely gagged, but there's no notice (AardMUSH)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: is it possible to remove an area from the mapper database and map it all over again?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper purgezone is your friend
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Entopee: what version of aardwolf mushclient? https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Versions
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks fiend
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: New enough so that bigmap is enabled
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Siko: purgezone works on keywords, so make sure you get hte area keyword right
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what barter message?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: gotcha
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper areas will show keywords for mapped areas. or areas keywords will show similar information.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: For example, I missed everything after Claddagh Ring in auction -h
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what do you mean everything after?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what exactly did you miss?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: could it be level thing? auction sethigh etc
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have no messages in my commlog about the Amulet of Anubis, Steel Mace, or Crown of Swords
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: help auction
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: are you sure you didn't accidentally scroll up in the comm log window?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: make sure you have the capture window scrolled all the way down
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have no sethigh's for auction sethigh
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I have it scrolled all the way down, it's moving as we speak
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I see
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: did you see a worn canvas satcheL?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Nope
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I just saw the rabbit's bite though
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Ah. Yeah, it's your auction levels.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: then you have some weird auction level stuff set
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But auction sethigh says
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You do not currently have an upper limit set for auction levels.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And I didn't see the satchel, but I saw the Claddagh Ring
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: type "auction set"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Which are the same levels
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try 'auction sethigh 291'
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: See if that fixes you up.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ok, I put auction sethigh 291
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Saw that
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: good. problem solved. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: thanks Jhav.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I'll come back later if there are any more missed messages, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might be a bug with auction sethigh serverside because I was bidding on the Tir na n0g portal which is L100,
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And there wasn't supposed to be a comma at the end of that
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: commas happen
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Every so often
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: wrapped
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: buttonset designs....
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I agree.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: log
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: so aard'
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: so aard's mushclient has mapping stuff now?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Not for foxes
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Quiet, pee.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Only for non-foxes
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir can't remember any good furry jokes.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: From now on, I'm spelling your name with a lowercase letter first, just to be rude. Just so you know.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: yup, for some time already
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Drugs do that!
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dagnir gasps in astonishment.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I was gone :/ Gonna make the switch today, but figured I'd see what you guys thought of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: that... makes sense
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Don't do it, it gives foxes cancer
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Except for pee, anyways.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, on that note...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You should use it?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: the current map has the possibility to add custom exits as well, so you can run to a room through portals if you like
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Yeah, just seems like a lotta neat stuff has been added there.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: mapper portal [portal] is also really cool
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: But as I said - only for non-furry animals
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: My only concern then is that certain horrible level 42 vampire mages also appear to be using it.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So obviously you should stay away from it
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And not take advantage of features like shortest point through portals and clanportals
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I have most of that in CMud already, grin ;) Though courtesy other's work there.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Entopee goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Sounds like I can replicate it and set it up myself though, which is kinda what I was going for here.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: can't move to mush before my gqbot is ported
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Makes for a fun little techie project and all.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Mapping everything again will be a pain though, as you probably already guessed
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Entopee told me I could use his gq bot script anytime, if I wanted.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox rapidly nods twice at Entopee, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i don't need a fancy mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: btw, does mush have something similar to ctrl+s in zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Of course, right after I mod it so that it triggers gquests with "gquest join;gquest leave"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Just makes things easier, in my case gonna be sitting quite long term with the new additions...so would like to get all SH stuff set up.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Yes, you can type "bk entop" to activate that feature.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Just type it into the mud.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox beams with pride.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: not sure what ctrl+s even did, grin
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: ahh, speedwalk list thing
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just set up aliases or buttons or a dropdown list or something clever
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You could kick me in the box, although it won't hurt as much as if I kicked you in the box
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Like you could reach that high.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I don't have to reach, foxes are the lowest of the low
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: And the shortest of the short
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: psh, I'd kick your stupid little mage derriere!
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: anyways yeah, pee got me upset...thanks for the input, guys (and pee <3)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: As if tiers mattered ;P
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: anyone have any idea on how to block/limit torrenting using a router?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: block ports
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I upgraded to the new version on the website and a lot of my plugins won't work now. I'm also getting a timestamp on every single line in my main window. i removed the timestamp plugin, but it's still doint it
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: this fuckin time stamp shit
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: mis sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: itsok pisses me off too
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Right click Commlog->Timestamp->No Timestamps ?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I can't get rid of the timestamps in the main winow now that I upgraded to the lastest Aard package
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: timestamps are informative
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: also I'm getting a miniwin_stats run-time error when I start it up
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: are you able to quest without crashing
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it never crashes, it's just extremely difficult to use
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: go-go zmud ftw ?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: how do I remove the time-stamps on mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: timestamps in the Communications Log?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: in the main window
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: no clue, I don't even know how you have timestamps in the main window
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: I upgraded to the new package
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: this is so annoying
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: could you paste to tech what you see in the mainwindow? an example of the timestamps
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: the timestamps are not selectable
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: lines with channel information on them are in blue, lines with triggers are in red
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it's white text in front of a darker grey background "11:18:19 >"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: lines with text have an ! instead of the >
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: for a trigger or alias, what is the sequence integer for?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Triggers with a lower sequence will be checked first. So if you have two triggers that could match on the same string, the one with the lower sequence will fire first.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It also might be the only trigger that fires, unless you have "keep evaluating" enabled for the lower-sequenced one.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you're making plugins, don't count on that. A trigger in the world will still fire, even if a plugin has already matched against it, as far as I can tell.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i have timestamps on every line in my main window and now there are blank lines between items in my inventory when I type inv.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i would like to fix both issues, if possible
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Any linguists worked with CQP before? Or the tagged British National Corpus?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Guess not :D
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in mushclient.. how cna i execute an alias from a trigger?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: Execute("aliasblahblah")
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well that's easy! thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: is it hard to transfer your alises and mcros and area stuff to newest version of aardmushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: not if you follow the instructions, if you don't it can be...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: do u just copy and paste what you want, delete the rest, reload, then transfer what you copied and pasted?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i guess i mean i have like 4 macros and maybe 2 alises i want to transfer, is it easier to just overwrite it and then recreate then to transfer?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: probably best you read the help on it and choose what yoou wanna do,I'm trying to find the link...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: rock on
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i think i have the link somewhere...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: migration was pretty easy for me
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: just went file, import, aardwolf.mcl
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: did your map transfer?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ahh you just gotta copy the two map files over
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which are...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: .. yeah jsut read that link
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: cheers
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: that helps out a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: if you follow that all is kept map,aliases,macros,stats...
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: nice
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks again
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: how do you set mush so you keep the last command entered in the prompt?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: on Mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Shouldn't be too hard, I remember I was trying to find how to turn that option off way back when I used Mush.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trurien Tech: Scrolled through all the options yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: for Mush, its Game->Configure->Command Autorepeat
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: nice, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: configuring mushclient: how to stop f1 from pulling up the helpfile and instead run the macro assigned?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dunno?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: file-world properties-input-macros
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: not the answer you're looking for, but not putting a macro on f1 will solve the problem ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: from there I really don't know
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mgrin :) thanks orogan and myrkul
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: so do i need to change the property of the f1 macro to replace instead of send now or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: hmm looking in to it
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: As far as I know, you can only override system hotkeys with LUA, not in the GUI.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i did it somehow last version, but i updated to the new and just forget how
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Board personal me if you figure it out? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: ill do my best to remember
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if i had to guess, it's probably not an individual macro setting, more likely a global option in config somewhere that allows all macros to override the built-in keyboard shortcuts
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: yeah somewhere on the alt enter spot i think
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: raijon F1 and F6 are special you need to go to global pref - general
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: then check the F1 and F6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: ok nice
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: file->global preferences->general, check "F1, F6 are macros"
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Oh, 'twas already said
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: thanks Madcatz
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: networklayer.com screwed for anyone else?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sided with another question of: is it possible to connect to aard avoiding them?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piccolo Tech: anyone know decent sites to get refurb at&t blackberries other than ebay
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: it's the monkeys
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are there fat americans sitting on the routers or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: all my ip traffic is being filtered through 4 government router's now before taking the ordinary route
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i must be pissing off the right people
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine is all going through NewYork1.Level3.net which is a bad sign
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll add some spice to it.. Bomb goverment buildings
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 16 hops in all, and iextremely slow
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: now you've been red-flagged.. you're welcome
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: to get to kissmyass.com it took a turn through toronto2.level3.net then chicago1 and 2 then dallas1 4.69 and 3
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: then the planet
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You think you got problems Tigernuts? I got average round trip time of 987 MS.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: all your databytes r belong unto us n stuffz for incriminatory purpoiises, while we fund the ballet that conducts the counter-arguements
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i think it'll be fun to go to court or whatever they're trying to do to me
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: "865 ms 883 ms 929 ms peer1.bdr01.tor.packetflow.ca" Yay!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i'll die for this land, somewhere overseas, if god could plate my freedom it's not for me
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: this intarwebs was invented by the military, by vulgarity we can include the x/y axis of politics and direct all contents towards their influence
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: i guess the internet is a socialist tool with tools of fascism included in it, and stuff (the facade of corporations)
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: what do you think?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i guess that's pretty accurate
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I think i've remembered the answer to this.. but there is no mob info in GMCP is there?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: to prevent bots
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You can get the percent of the mob you're fighting, and shops are marked in the mapper. But that's about it.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well that makes sense! thanks fastfinge.. you certainly seem to know your clients and aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zengo Tech: can anybody help me on this, my zmud is totally screwed up
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: Is there a way to erase some of these windows I have up?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardwolf-MUSHclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: Mush
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Which windows do you want to remove?
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: The group info channel
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: mmm taffy
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: I know right.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ctrl+shift+p will bring up the plugins screen. Click Group Monitor to highlight, click disable, highlight Group Monitor again, and click remove.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: Thank you very Much.
T3/r3/2011-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Welcome.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do I use a mushclient stored variable in the alias?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Check Expand Variables and use the (at) symbol in front of the variable name like @this
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah okay, thanks, was trying $ and % heh
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: anyone able to help me set up a trigger for when I get disarmed? I'm using MUSHClient, and have no clue what text to use as the trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm * DISARMS you
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Why don't you just use the bast plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: or soemthing like that
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ^DISARMS you and sends your * flying.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: blast plug in? let me see if I have that one
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ^DISARMS you and sends your (.*?) flying.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: BAST, not blast - I think you can finger bast for the info
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the text is * DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: that is for an aardweapon
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: the text is -DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ah I see,
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: just DISARMS you * will work...and set up an alias for wield * so that you set a variable as your primary weapon....
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: or you could just trigger on that and wear all
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or just shell out for bracers of iron grip and not worry about that ridiculous hassle.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They have better hr/dr than anything else you can find, anyway.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok my disarm trigger didnt work, on my trigger, when I have it say get primary and wield primary, do I send that to world or script?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: probably send to world
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I assume it's just sending a "wield" command?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: though I actually like using send to execute, because that means I see a local echo
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: well actually one guy helped me set it up.... he had me set trigger with some kind of variable thing like (.?*) or something
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: then he had me set it at "Get Primary" and "Wield Primary"
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: He also had me set an Alias to SetVariable("Primary", "%1") and another command I forget... sending that to script
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: would it just work if I set the trigger to DISARMS you, and the commands to "Get all" "Wield all"?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: change to send to execute instead of send to world
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or you can use send to script and use Send() around anything you want to send to the world
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: "Get Primary" will not work
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: if you're using SetVariable to assign primary, you need to use GetVariable("Primary")
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: inside the commands in the trigger? Do the getvariable("Primary") prior to the Get Primary?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: and is DISARMS you * ok enough for the trigger or do I need the (?.*) thingy in? cause I changed it and cant remember exactly how it was
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It depends on whether you make it regex or not - the first is non-regex, the latter is
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: hey fiendish do you have a link to a forum or good wiki for using variables and such and making triggers like that? I have experience programming but not with this type stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: is regex that is
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see if this is helpful. https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I have reinstalled a new MUSHclient, and still it crashes on a quest request =(
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: have you tried disabling each plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kurojiryuu nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I messed around with my bigmap, now it doesn't display in the mapper anymore, how do i reenable it?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: bigmap reset
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: didn't help either =(
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: destroy it utterly in a fit of rage
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: nice =D
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (usually works for me)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ReInstall?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: reinstalled both the mapper and the bigmap o.0
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ReInstall Mapper and Bigmap at the same time.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yes, doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Look for a state file with b6eae87ccedd84f510b74714 in its title and 60840c9013c7cc57777ae0ac in its title. Delete both of those state files.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then ReInstall both Mapper and Bigmap.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: nope didn't work either
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why do ISP's employ retards for their tech support?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that age old question reasked
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: thats racist man, you shouldnt talk about mexicans that way
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't be silly, they don't employ Mexicans
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: for one, they're based in Sheffield UK, and for two, Mexicans don't work
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GuardianZack Tech: oh yeah thats right, theyre free
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: is it normal for the new mush version to do a big group of invmon when u log in?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you use some of my plugins, then yes
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: in zMUD and cMUD, #loop repeats an action the specified amount of times. Is there a similar command in MushClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not that i know of, but you can write a simple alias to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: well, although I've been writing aliases, I still don't know how to make something repeat a given amount of times
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: while num>i do blahblah i+1 end
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Thanks Redryn!
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how do i install this game
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: type "copy internet" , then "install game"
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: (joke)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: you mean the MushClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: lol come on
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: Lukesmart, do you mean the MushClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: no i have the client but im nt conected
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You're already in the game. What's the problem?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: if you weren't connected, we wouldn't see you talking on Tech
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You need to enter the information that's in 'help ip' into your client for it to connect.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you're using the aard mush package, just run the executable
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: As you can tell, we don't know exactly what you're trying to do :P
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: uhm no this is on a phone and i dnt knw where on in this files to find da game
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Moofie Tech: you're on here using your phone?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And you're trying to get it to work on your computer?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you downloaded the MUSHclient package from the Aard website, just run MUSHclient.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And that's all you have to do
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: ok first file is db backups then docs then fonts then locale then lua then mime then names then scrits then socket then sounds then spell then worlds then aardwolf then aardwolf bookmarks then arrdwnlfpackagechanges and so on...
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: where do i go coz im lost
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in that same spot as all those folders, there is also a file called MUSHclient.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: help please
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just double-click on that
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: i found a MUSHclient.gdi and a mushclient.cnt nd just MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: run the mushclient
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: You are set not to see the exe extension, run the just MUSHClient file
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Or are you on a Mac?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: wth is a mac?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: extract?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: how do i write?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: whenever i log off or disconnect, my tags settings for skillgains and spellups - those tags only - are reset
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: nevermind
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: does anyone know what i can do to make them stay put?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: probably have a plugin that's changing the settings
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Disable whatever plugin is changing them
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh... ok i'll just deal as in ive no idea which one that would be :) Thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I would guess one that deals with spells and skills.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: probably :)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: 'skillgain' is in bast_spellup, Aardwolf_Spellups_mw, and broadcast_spellsskills on my install
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: has anyone got any mushclient experience with multiline triggers?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have 100s of triggers and have yet to need a multiline trigger. what is the use case?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: wheres the sound?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the ascii map capture uses a multiline trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Could someone come up with an idea why this: http://pastebin.com/NyazX04d is printing "nil" for new_mobid? (SQLite question)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: having a look
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Assume fixsql() is properly adding single quotes around strings.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it looks like we're both working on a similar side project
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I've had this working before... but had a harddrive crash...
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Suddly SQL isn't working the same.. lol
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do the quoting in my client routine rather than in a sql function
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Either way, this cannot be my problem because it works in every other application of SQL strings... for some reason this simple query is returning nothing... but looking at the database, it should return 1 (as this is the first and only mob so far)
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and this sql works if you run the sql maunally
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and this sql works if you run the sql manually?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, I should check that...
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmmm.... seems my problem isn't with SQL at all... my GMCP calls don't seem to be functioning all the time
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Anyone know if mushclient's LUA functions include a good way to query an HTTP server and parse an XML response?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: iirc, you can http=open("http://whatever.com")
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Awq Tech: hot
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://69.5.26.215/forum/?id=10820
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is a link to a plugin that deals with it.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: not really
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: That just opens a url and adds a hyperlink to it
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: From what i understand he wants to locally download the page and parse it for specific information
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Actually, I want to access the trueknowledge API. But yeah, anything that can download via HTTP would be a good start.
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: http://www.wellho.net/resources/ex.php4?item=u116/webclient
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That's a start. Looks like this might turn into more work than I want it to be. :-(
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: If you don't mind me asking, why would you want to do the parsing in the client?
T3/r3/2011-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I build on another alpha mud, and their OLC sucks in a number of ways that result in me needing to do all sorts of unit conversions and calculations by hand. Thought I might be able to save time by outsourcing these things to a web service. But it's looking like I'd spend more time writing those functions than just putting up with things as they are.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: If I wanna have a table on mush and I put it in the .lua file
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it's biggish
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would that be an issue
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: not really...what's biggish?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: According to Gammon, no
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yeah, what's biggish?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say the gmcp table is pretty biggish
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 400ish key pairs
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: You'll be fine
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is that the proper way to add tables tho
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would become a big file
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: shrug, if it works for you, wouldn't worry too much about what's proper
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sqlite db would be another way to go about it
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so the way to go is write the table there in the file, then how you operate with it goes to another function or alias
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: write a plugin with functions to read/write the variables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are the 'variables' those tables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or other variables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the tables can be those variables
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I guess I can't have a graphical table
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like the variables in the settings
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: don't think so
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oooo those plugins are sexy
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: removes all the crap from the script file
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if (db.dbb.dbb) =20 then note yes end <-- this is outputting error [string "Immediate"]:1: 'then' expected near '='
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if (db.dbb.dbb == 20) then
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: = is assignment, == is a check
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well if I switch it to > I'm getting error [string "Immediate"]:1: '=' expected near 'yes'
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So you were trying to assign something where it expected a conditional following the 'if'
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Note("yes")
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming it's lua
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: better to write as: if ((db.dbb.dbb) == 20) then
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it was -- before, was same error
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will try that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh nice it works now
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the note was the issue :p
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger bows deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: p
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: paren's in lua aren't like those in perl, they aren't optional for functions :P
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and a good thing too!
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ma i alone in hating optional paren
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: i like optional paren's
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I can't find the option to leave last command in the command line
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ma i alone in hating optionawhere bald
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: i can't remember what tab it's under
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: game->configure->input->commands
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: There it is
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: tick "keep commands on prompt line"
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GettingStarted
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: answers that question, btw
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will check that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: in fact... https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GettingStarted#How_do_I_make_it_so_that_commands_stay_on_the_input_line_after_I
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: if you mapper goto an unknown roomid, it causes an error and prevents mapper goto from working again...is that expected?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: doens't sound like it
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you might want to try updating to a newer version of the package, Daresia
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because that doesn't happen for me in the latest version. https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: print (GetTriggerInfo("trig1",8)) shows true
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but when I put if statement it doesn't work :(
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should it be like if (GetTriggerInfo("trig1",8)) = true then
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ==
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then it outputs [string "Immediate"]:3: attempt to call global 'note' (a nil value)
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I put note ("asd")
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: also is it returning true or "true"
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just true in blue
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but the if isn't working
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if (GetTriggerInfo("trig1",8)) == true then note("Asd") end
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: Note("asd") not note
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: :(
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: NOTE LSD
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: case sensitive is gai
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf smirks.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the help file refers to true as TRUE.. is it case sensitive that way?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no the Note was case sensitive :P
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: my mushclient (tried r397 and r564) main window's maximize function seems to be broken on Win XP - it doesn't set the max height, leaving about 30px of space at the bottom. is anyone else having the same issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: corrupted file, have to delete it and let mush create a new one.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: it happenes just right after (re)installation, what file is corrupt?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: dunno, I don't use mush.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: well, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if there's a trig ^\<.*\%hps .*\%mn
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can you display %1 in that
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tried with Note(%1)
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it outputs unexpected symbol near '>'
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but if I just put Note() in the Send box it works okay
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: add capture values to ()
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: cause this way it just captures the whole string
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ^\<(.*)\%hps (.*)\%mn <- %1 hp, %2 mn
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: ah, and add quotes around %1 %2
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Note("%1")
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right the issue was with the () :p
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they should put this stuff in the docs
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: quotes are an issue too (or will be someday), believe me :)
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: capturing groups are a regex part, you can use stars* when you're using MUSH capture syntax, but when you turn regex on it's all strict
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there are lot of little things like that that are a pain :(
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html <- might help, regex is always useful
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's actually like zmud and I put () the first time
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but didn't work and I tried removing and adding a dot
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it worked and then I didn't think about adding () again
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: Zmud doesn't use regex, does it ?
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it can
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the pattern crap is the same
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's rather outdated though
T3/r3/2011-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: is anyone willing to share their 'use portal-hold last item' automation for the mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Mushclient is SO annoying.. it will only play .wavs .. and VERY VERY specific types of .wavs
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can you call upon an external player? That's how I do it in tt++
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i _think_ there is some sort of mp3 add in i can use.. but i think that's for another day..
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can't find enough wavs that meet the requirements for each damned event
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Reina Tech: how i want to speed up my uttorrent ...??? a month ago my utorrent speed it about 100kb/s ..and now 0.5 kb/s ??????wth of this speed .it might be take a years to complete my movie ...
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: anyone know how to redefine F1 key in the mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: use the Accelerator method
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: can't find anything about accelerators in the help, can you provide more details please?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Accelerators will not override the F1 key being used for help
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: Accelerator("Key", "command") I guess
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, didn't know that.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: _h 10
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: global pref-general- check "use F1 and F6 as macro" box
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use Accelerator for ctrl+F1 and so on.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: thanks, Orogan - it works!
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Let's, for this discussion, assume your bittorrent usage is legal. Then, providing more upload speed and a reasonable number of upload slots (8 or so) will probably help.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spoke Tech: is there a legal way to stream ABC or TNT online?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuala seems mighty jumpy. Perhaps you should go talk to them...
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: short of using the indoors/outdoors/noweather flag, can a sector/terrain type's indoor/outdoor status change from the default? Am looking to smarten up how my script updates time/weather info so I'm not always sending commands in situations where I can't get the data.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: anyone else seeing memory issues with Firefox 4?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hell yes
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: So that would be yes, then? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: just a min, lsaer
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Sorry, was in laser - yes, I am seeing major memory issues with FF4
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Same here, a bit leaky, just have to restart it every few hours though
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Oh I see they have about a zillion comments to that effect. Should have googled first asked later.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Should the mushclient potion quaffer plugin (from the bast plugins) update the totals when you use it to buy potions? Mine doesn't seem to
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Mine doesn't either - I just "pots" after I buy
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yeah, but I'd like to automate it, and 'pots' shows the whole contents of the bag, any way I can suppress that in an alias?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: What's teh mysql command to show the table layout? IE, see which order the rows are in.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: s/teh/the
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nvm, got it :)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know how i find my local IP in the 196.*.*.* format? I did it once to set up a static route on my wireless router to one computer, but i can't remember how i did it to do it for another?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What operating system in windows you can go to command line and do ipconfig
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: linux, ubuntu 10.10
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: try ifconfig -a
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: i tried ifconfig, but it's not there
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: will teh with a switch
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: try*
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/10/find-ip-dns-addresses-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Still only seeing in the 10.0.0.* format on ifconfig
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ahh, nice mend
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: that's also only the 10.0.0.* format
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Which my router table on the modem's site doesn't seem to like.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you connected directly to your cable/dls modem or something?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Well, i have the SSH server on one computer, trying to move it over to this computer.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: turn off the ssh service on your current comp, install on other comp? :p
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I remember i had a hell of a time doing it the first time on a double NAT'd system, but i thought it'd be easier to switch computers than it was to setup initially
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: man im so glad mud clients don't autocorrect your typing like cell phone texting :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: random thought of the day for your pleasure :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i bet there's an app for that
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you've made me tempted to write one :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: have you ever tried writing an app in poetry verse?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i think u'd get the super badass award if u could code in rhyme and meter haha
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so how do i make a sql table require 3 fields to be unique, only if ALL of them are unique. Ie, name=dog, area=field, level=10 is NOT the same as name=dog, level=10, area=pasture, but would be if area was field.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: mysql* table
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: try adding an unique key which includes all these fields
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I did
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: If any of them are the same, it throws an error
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: isn't it what you want?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: No, i want it to throw an error only if all three of the unique fields are the same as another entry, but 1 or 2 of them could be the same as another entry
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could you just do it manually, not by making them all unique?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: you did something wrong then, check if any other unique keys present.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Well, it's an interrogate script passing to a mysql table, and i want to use 'area' 'name' and 'level' as the unique key together.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could you just make a third field combing them all together?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: or you can do it manually, say in a stored procedure, which will check the values and then insert/update them.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: CB, what are you using to manipulate the db?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: perl
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Try taking Mendaloth's step one idea further and make some sort of hash combining the three, then you only have to compare hashes
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I thought for sure sql would be able to hand such a think itself.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oooh smarter idea there Entopee :)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: can't just make a composite primary key in mysql?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: thing*
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Chime: how?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Don't think that's exactly what CB is looking for
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't look like it from my googleing
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: he wants to do some logic when inserting a record, that should be a trigger on the table :p
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gonf flicks his whip across Cheezburger's bare back.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Basically, if (field1!=any other field1 entry && field2!=any other field2 entry && field3 != any other field3 entry)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: yep, just add a on insert or update in front of you that and you practically have a table trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: CB, that logic will be flawed - for example, if you have STTNG twice, then that statement will call false
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: exactly
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So basically what you want are completely unique cells across each column
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I want it to be able to do several mobs in same area, even if they have the same level, or several mobs with same name in different area but if and ONLY if all three of those evaluate to true, add to table
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: if you manage to add an unique key for all 3 fields then you can rely on mysql with INSERT and ON DUPLICATE modifier, otherwise you'll have to handle this logic manually in a trigger/stored proc i think.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: err, no, i explained that wrong.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: If 3 of the 3 unique fields already have that entry, do nothing. If less than 3, do something.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: So you only want unique rows
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, what if you have 2 different mobs with the same name/level/area?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if 2 mobs with same name/level/area, do nothing
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: If you want unique rows, I think hashing will be the easiest
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if 2 mobs have same area/level but different name, add it
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but what if they're different mobs? different vnums?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: there could be a good one, a neutral one and an evil one, all identical but their align
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: or they could just be identical :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Since i can't access vnums, this is my atempt to find unique mobs by comparing those three fields.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: How about adding everything, then using Mysql DISTINCT to remove dups?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Then you can define for yourself what constitutes uniquity
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: how can i remove a unique from a column? I have 3 columns defined as 'unique' and i want to remove that so i can add dups.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: alter table
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: heh, knew that much
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: will i have to redefine all my columns?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: you should be able to alter just one colum n
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: shake, alter table blah change column blah, etc etc
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: you could unload the table, change the definition and reload it
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: use sqldump
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rejbear Tech: if you start dumping tables, one could always start using sqlite, it runs faster
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm loving sqllite :)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Anyone know if there's a way to make the Mushclient GMCP mapper ignore an area?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: why, you can purge old areas if that's what you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No, not purge - I mean stop mapping an area completely
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nope not that I know of....why would you want to do that though? Could always hard code it in the function that adds a new room.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I feel like it slows down lasertag a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh, don't play much
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Could always add an option to do something like if (count(mapper.area) == explorable.area) then return end
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So it's more universal than just ltag area.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Might just end up doing that - I was just wondering if there was a hidden function I was not aware of
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could also post an issue on the google code website, with the suggestion.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Explaining why you want it might help...is it slow even after you have mapped the whole area
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: The thing is, the lasertag area is randomized after each game - not sure if the mapper keeps adding data or what, but each time I join, there's considerable slowdown
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: nods, the psuedo-code i posted would essentially speed the client back up after you've finished mapping an area.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup, thanks for that - will implement that and possibly put up a suggestion
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Nods, that's why i went by rooms mapped compared to total explorable.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: since ltag changes and you can't compare total exits.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: granted, there is a possible bug with that too
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Some area's have rooms marked no-explore.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So there's more rooms than 'explored' says there is.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Well, I could always just limit it to ltag for now
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Since that's the only place I'm having possible problems with
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: if gmcp.room.info.zone = laserone then return end
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: lasertwo but yeah, thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ==, and lasertwo, nods
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: In perl will this statement evaluate to undef if none match all three? --> my $query=$dbh->prepare("SELECT name, area, level from Interrogate WHERE name=$name, area=$area, level=$level;");
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that'll match all 3...Not sure what it returns in perl though if there are no results
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: should get a true false return.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Good enough
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: it's only a prepare method, shouldn't return undef i believe
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: or 0 1, not sure how it handles it in perl
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So i can do if (!$query) {$dbh->do(INSERT blahblah);}, right?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: should be able to, like ai said Im not fluent in perl, so not sure on syntax
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: tasks
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I guess there's one way to test, interrogate the same mob again :P
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: doesn't look like it's working.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Didn't add anything to the db with or without the mob already existing
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: have you tried to execute the prepared statement?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not yet, i added a "print $query;" to the file to see what it returns
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: DBI::st=HASH(0x2513b10)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Do i need to dereference that first?
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: add the use Dumper
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: DBI::st=HASH(0x2513b10)
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: add the use Dumper; to the beggining of your script and then print Dumper($query) to see what hash contains.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: use Data::Dumper
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Returns empty hash looks like
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: read the 'perldoc DBI', there are some examples there.
T3/r3/2011-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: So, anyone else watch the AVC today?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Has anyone else noticed that they aren't getting a GMCP char.status line after each time the enemy is damaged?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: nope, i get one every combat round
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Weird...
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Figured it out - I had another char.status trigger that was blocking....whoops.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone use IE here?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i was told not to
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I don't and won't :P Just wanted someone to test out something someone on my flist was having issues with.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Astridome Tech: does mxit suport MCCP?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no afaik
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: i moved my aardwolf client from one monitor to another with a very different resolution, now my main window in the client is really high up and i can't get my cursor to the spot where you click and drag to move the window...
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: move it back, move it down, then transfer it again?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: that's what im saying, i can't move it.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: what delimiter do I use for multi-line aliases in mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: transfer it back to your original monitor, move it down, then move it back over the the other monitor?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: transferring back to the original monitor doesnt do anything, either
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: mieko, ;
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: mmm, that's what I'm using
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: for whatever reason, when i switch back to the original monitor, the windows stay in the same position instead of moving again
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: did you try resizing the window Dolo?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: you mean the client window or the window im trying to move inside the client? i dont know if i'm explaining myself clearly enough... im talking about the window where all the data comes through. like the communications log or the mapper... are those referred to as plugins? heh
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: so the subwindows in the client are out of place?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: yeah, and i dont have a probalem moving most of them since you can click and drag ust about anywhere
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: but the sub window that spits out room directions and all of that... that one has been pushed up beyond the top edge of the main window
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: ugh, room DESCRIPTIONS. sorry, i just woke up about 15 minutes ago hehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm just reinstall a new client?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: i was really hoping you wouldn't say that
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: hehehehe
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dolo Tech: i guess if that's all i can do, then that's it. thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: not sure if there is a command to reset the positions of the windows to default, but there probably is
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: just reinstall the plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: anyone here use bast spellup?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: using? yes.. be helpful.. i doubt
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: just wondering if theres a way to make the refresh continue even when a spell fails
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It should recast when a spell fails
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: it does.. sometimes... for some reason it gets stuck and I have to manually restart it
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I used to get that a lot, there's a couple of things I've found usually cause it, either sleeping mid-cast or using it for skills like sneak and hide
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Bast said the sleep one is fixed for the next release, and I've made him aware of the skills problem
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sleep mode?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: had it with sneak and hide on
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: turning them off... seeing what happens
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Sleeping stalling spellups problem, turie
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nah.. sleeping isn't the issue.. nor is combat
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It has something to do with sleeping or idling too long in a non-magic room.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: sad
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Griffi spaem gclans wisth her drusnkin ram,bilindss,
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I used to only get it occasionally on sleeping, if a spellup triggered exactly at the same time as I went to sleep
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: added it to refresh everytime I go idle.. and when I kill a mob
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: goal is to just stay spelled so I don't have a long spellup ever
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: on the mush client how do i make it so it doesnt delete the text in the input bar after i hit enter?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: input - commands - autorepeat
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: commands -> auto repeat commands
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vespar Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Does anyone know a firefox extension that can detect the language of a newly loaded page, and automaticly translate the contents into English? I want this to happen without even having to click a translate button, so the google toolbar isn't quite it.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Do not install foxlingo. Ever. It tries to install lots and lots of adware. And then it doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Poll for the masses: what is your MUD output wrap column set at?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: mine is not set!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 80.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 80 because notes, room descriptions, and so on are set to 80 characters.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does that include ansi colors?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: does it include the blinking cursor?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Blinking cursor? Are you using raw telnet?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: autowrap uses the width of the available screen
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no i installed telnet-bsd
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Well, notes and room descriptions are set at 80 displayed characters.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: think its possible to jb weld a chunk of my intake plenum where the bolt hole for the throttle body connects? good enough to tighten the throttle body?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i just broke mine -_-
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: will glycerine or sulfur based amine lotions penetrate the skin faster?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: With an obvious need for caution, is it possible to put an OnPluginBroadcast() into a .lua helpfile and each plugin that "requires" it will process said broadcasts? (MUSHClient)
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you want to put code in a helpfile?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: For function reuse, mainly.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Instead of using CallPlugin() in each, I can just put the functions in a .lua file and require them
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what was that physics unit that meant a 'unit of work ' ?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: w
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what system?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not sure?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: the one that has joules and horsepower and so on?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude misses flash.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: anyone know a good place to buy phones from?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the ATT store
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: cell phones that is
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: phone stores
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cide sighs.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you'll have to be a lot more specific, since many vendors are going exclusive
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: whats up?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i was looking for an at&t phone and somewhere better than ebay to look and the ATT store :P
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there are auction-compare sites, if all you're looking for are deals.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: whats a good c/c++ compilier?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: for windows
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: is there a gq cycle script for mush?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: did you try gcc?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: not yet
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gohaan Tech: aard mush client
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cide Tech: i tried borland
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: erm what does UNLINKED - Previously Grandmarket Boulevard (The Grand City of Aylor) (32470) this mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: wut
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's an output from the mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morinon Tech: Hmm.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: yeah, weird =P
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it probably means you have a stub/broken link, and/or an extra room that's not supposed to be there.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: hmm, how do I fix it?
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: assuming it's not completely borked, you could try just remapping the area in question to see if something got missed
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i hate forgetting to put thule on maps =(
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: some way to get at further information about the room so you can know exactly which room in the mapper it's referring to would probably help.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I mean, if the mapper is referring to Room X but you mistakenly believe it is Room Y, you're likely not going to find any problems to fix with Room Y.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: so i need to remap aylor? =(
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably just the one section of it.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: overkill is never a bad option, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: alright, thanks =D
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I tried out Bast's campaign tracking miniwindow.. It's very convenient, but it always omits the first mob. Any easy way to fix that?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Install fix.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Temporary workaround is to do a manual cp check after each mobkill
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There I go :-D Big thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: No problem
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Also, for future reference, if you add a return-carriage character to the end of your prompt, you should get the same effect without fix.xml - the problem is that sometimes the mobnames get appended to whatever was there last, so the regex is not picking that up
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: All out of sudden, the minimap window in MUSHclient stopped working. What did I break?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what do you mean by 'stopped working'?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: stopped updating and the map started going into the main window. Restarting MUSHclient fixed the issue so never mind.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: can some one help me with something? Not sure if this is easy to do or not, but I am trying to write a trigger that will take the output from my spouse channel: "(Spouse): set mana moonlight" and assign the value of "moonlight" to a variable manapot. I'm using mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to use a knoppix cd to bootstrap to a bsd partition that has its own bootloader and kernel installed?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That would be creating a remote control script, and would be against aardwolf rules. See help botting.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. you'll get booted for behaviour like that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: stick with just controlling yourself in combat and casting
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hmmn actually i dont think that would be botting, unless that 'value' they assigned was then used by a script to quaff/buy/store/adjust said manapot?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they're allowing their spouse, to interact with their client, not the mud?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: nod. ok. had not thought of the botting implications. Am just looking for a way to reset my manapot variable withouth having to open up the variable window....
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I think Stutz is just using the spouse channel to echo to himself
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: stutz, you can do that by ' Shortbus Stuz tells the group my new manapot is moonlight ' and globbing moonlight from it?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: avoid using it to control your spouse.. look in the help for SetVariable
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to use a channel to set a variable for yourself
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: they just are saying that you need to be the one in control, not your spouse... even if she's got cute leather outfits and boots and a whip
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And if you do need that, you can use echo.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just set your own variable...make an alias "setmana"...then type "setmana moonlight"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agreed.. setup an alias
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: perfect. thanks abe. (I = suxor when it comes to this kinda stuff).
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need for it to ever cross your screen, unless you want an echo to verify that it did something
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Even then, you can use world.note.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias would be "setmana *", and the action can be "setvariable (manapotion, %1)" or close to that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Abelinc, any idea how to use a knoppix livecd to get a bootstrappage of a bsd partition that has its own bootloader and so on, that if in grub, i could just have chainloader +1 'd?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not offhand, dunno what bootloader knoppix uses
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you might need double quotes around that %1
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you finger me and go to the very bottom of my script page, there's a couple pretty simple mushclient plugins that can show you how you can use aliases to set variables up plugin-style...on other sites, there are also potion tracker scripts that already handle this for you :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Bast's potion quaffer plugin is pretty nice - can set heals, mana, and buff pots
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stutz Tech: thanks. will take a look.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anybody need a script for runto in vidblain?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (sorry, couldn't resist bragging)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No. The mapper works fine there.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: from Aardhotel "invis;~run dsw2news8e5s;~enter hole" is almost a script to vidblain -- is there a shorter path
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not to, in
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: besides using the dark crystal
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a speedwalk to the areas in vidblain would be nice to have, but I can live without it...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Can't really speedwalk there, I guess (bar portals), but the coordinate system can be abused to make a script that lands you in the right area.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: run sw2news8e5s;enter hole is a shorter way?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if I was a frequent traveller there, I might consider doing something like that, but I try to stay away from vidblain... at least until ST:TNG is redone. Sillyness factor too high for my taste. :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kirua Tech: your speedwalk from aardhotel is 21 steps and run sw2news8e5s from recall is 20
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the speedwalk to Ultima or Sendhia uses a script that calculates the run string -- but care is required to not run east into ST:tNG (do the NS first then the EW)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "the" speedwalk?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so an inner Vidblain speedwalk script is possible
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: is that an analogue speedwalk, or a digital one?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: currently the old Ultima script tells Xyliz what to type to run to Sendhia -- when Xyliz remorts, may automate that to do the run auomatically instead of waiting for the monkey at the keyboard to type in the suggested run
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: remort? Doesn't that requiree you to level? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: you want me to start leveling again -- supply a few hints on the Gladiator Arena goal task2 (information on nasty surprises) and optionally task3 (where are the two missing diamonds)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: like what immunities are likely to be on the mobs in the hard run, what is the "test of strength", what is the "test of speed"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is used to cheating, cheating is honorable: going to school and college are forms of honorable cheating.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: i'm having a problem loading any of bast's plugins, wondered if anyone might be able to help
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: i've got the latest mushclient, and dl'ed the plugins from the google docs page, followed the install instructions, and when trying to load the plugins it's giving me a bunch of errors for missing files
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: e.g. "no file '.\socket\core.lua'"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is no google docs page
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: that is to say, fiendish, that i got them from http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/Intro
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which is not a google docs page
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antistes Tech: fair enough, i misremembered and found the actual address
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but sorry. I don't know about installing bast's plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Is there any way to use gmcp info directly in triggers and aliases?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, which client?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: MUSH
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Take a look at this: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Entopee, sort of, but only if you are willing to make the assumption that the data has already come through.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I've read that, but that uses plugins and not in-client functionality
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: what are you trying to do Entopee?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: only a plugin can have the OnPluginBroadcast function. there's no way to alert a standalone trigger of incoming gmcp data. You should be able to use the callplugin stuff from in a trigger, though.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, so for example, how would I do get gmcpval("room.info")?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Ah, ok - will look into doing that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle is suddenly very interested in this question
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you'll just have to do it on the assumption that the data you want has already been received.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: res, pvar = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","room.info")
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Yup
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: which may or may not be a safe assumption to make
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: About MUSHclient, the GetCommandList function doesn't return the commands sent by keypad navigation. Is there any way to get those?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: I don't want to - I would much rather request as needed
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Entopee: requesting data like room.info is actually not a great idea
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Why not?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the turnaround time of sending the command and then waiting for receipt of the data means you'll have to insert arbitrarily long delays
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: besides, room.info gets sent every time you change rooms
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Hmm, just want to write a simple repop trigger is all, with area name
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't do a gmcp-based repop trigger without putting it into a plugin, because you need an OnPluginBroadcast function
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Fiendish speaks the truth on that :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and honestly, making plugins is pretty easy
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Once I tried using the pluin approach I moved everything to one. Just easier.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: hey abelinc you still there?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Figured area repop messages out, thanks all
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i found a way to get it to boot the bsd, but, i think i need someone to hold my hand and walk me through what is wrong with my hostname.ath config .. i can give you goodberries, and pot pies?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: right now it shows dhcp rtsol nwid belkin wpa wpa-psk xrealllylongfriggingstringofstuff
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and that looks like it should from the example
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: except in the man page, it shows mynet instead of belkin, so i had to change that
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i was supposed to use the output of wpa-psk belkin mypassword ?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers at you intently.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: sigh, if only this mud had 2 extremely tech savvy types... instead of just abelinc and an afk erikson
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude points excitedly at Erikson!
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: About MUSHclient, the GetCommandList function doesn't return the commands sent by keypad navigation. Is there any way to get those?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could re-map the kepad keys to aliases
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude glares around him.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: abelinc, will you give tech supportage in return for tps?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i need a front wiring harness for my car
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i have a wiring harness, but it may not be the right kind
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: which file should i find and click on to open with my aardwolf.mcl file?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: its asking me to choose, yet i dont know which one to pick
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: An .mcl is just an xml file. If you want to edit it by hand, use your favorite text editor.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: then why would my saved world file be saved as a .mcl?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest getting Notepad++ for editing. It does .xml, .mcl, .mct, .mca, and several other text based files.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: is erikson, or another bsd user on?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: any mechanics online?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse you mean electricians
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: bike mechanic?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: nodnod
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: how u know
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we're in a MUD, there are mechanics all over the place here.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse i'm not an electrician, but farkyss knows how to wire a motor
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what kind of issue are you having? distributor cap? points? spark plug wires ? fusible wires? what?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: cars have distributors these days?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: my ignition module that the coils sit on i think is shorted
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: does it have to be grounded?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and do you plan on... removing the module, and taking it in to be tested?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse, i dont know. i dont have the same car as you
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: what details can you tell us about it?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: like, i unbolted it cause gm bolted it directly under the manifold(bad design) so they heat up and stop workin
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: that does sound bad.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jesse slaps himself on the head and yells, "DOH!"
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: don't they have Haynes manuals in the US?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: o they do
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: my car has insulated purple shells around the wires that touch the manifold.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: hehe, i need one of them
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i had an easier time finding a chiltons for mine
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: we got super thin plastic
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and you can find wiring diagrams online
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: heat from the engine might not cause a short could be an electrical issue
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: akuri nod, like having too many accessories and a stereo on at once?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but since he's sure the problem is a short... it seems like he can either check each piece of wire for continuity
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: meh, ima just trial an error it, once it cools down ima bolt the icm back on
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: or he can replace each piece of wire until it works
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: jesse, does the icm function properly when separated from the car?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: get a multimeter and narrow down the issue could just be a bad part too
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: dunno
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: akuri multimeters are expensive, wouldnt a simple probe and a battery be enough?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i can test it off the car
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: here in the usa its hard to find a multimeter for less than 16 dollars after buying batteries and taxes
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jesse goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i got one acctually
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: that's not exactly expensive....
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: multimeters have alot of uses
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: and are handy to have
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: akuri nod, they can be used as a toy for star trek fans as tricorders too
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: well thanks for the help, i'ma go look up resistance and check it :)
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jesse Tech: i'll let ya know what i find
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: in the meantime, i will keep waiting for erikson, abelinc, or a bsd savvy person to show up
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude peers intently at Erikson.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: would help to get the part tested too
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: is anyone familiar with aardwolf client? I ilke the communication window...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'd like a window per channel, is that possible?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's possible, but not with the plugin that comes with the client
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: okay, so I'd really need to learn mushclient...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: and I need to learn how to filter air
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: or get someone else to write it for you
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: with an air filter, maybe?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: don't know anyone here well enough, is there a good location to learn mushclient scripting?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: mushclient's site :P
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Once you've learned LUA, the scripting language inside mushclient, the website has a complete list of functions.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: mush doesn't just use lua, though
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it supports a whole bunch of languages
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No, but people get really mad at you if you don't use LUA. And if you don't know any other scripting, LUA is the one to learn.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: well, that's not very nice of people :P
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge is agreeing with that Myrkul person again...
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lua is a pain
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes, it is. It combines all the bad things about C, JS, and VB6.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: looks like I can edit the plugin to do what I want, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: I'm looking at the donate page, how does it link to your aardwolf account?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you type in your name in the message box
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: not really a tech question, btw :P
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Why can I not bsp sa huntmaster? Is this a bug or is it intended?
T3/r3/2011-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: when calculating alcohol content by weight, such as 3.2% , does that include the carbonation in the liquid?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: wouldn't a whole window per channel take up a lot of space?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can emulate a tab for it to conserve space
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why do cmud macros get executed twice
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: doesn't for me
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's like the settings got copied twice
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but when searching there's only one instance of the macro
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: for all of them or just some?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I create new one it works nice
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but the zmud ones are twice or three times
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: are the old ones brought from zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yah
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: hmmhmm
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: do you have multiple packages?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I have one only right now but not sure where those are shown
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: near the top in the package editor
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: up there in settings there's some combo box
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye shows 1 package and then some generic ones
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the rest don't have f1 macro tho
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i had same bug when i switched from zmud to cmud, ended up just recreating all the macros
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: if you delete one of the repeating macros, and hit the assigned macro key after that what happens?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: probably nothing :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme check
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: but if something does, it'd indicate you have extra packages somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye nothing happens :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: strangeness
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: can't help you :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll do what he says, recreate them
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: was just worried settings got duplicated somewhere
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: i did have huge problems importing my zmud settings to cmud though and ended up recreating basically everything
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: omg :( when I recreate the alias it still presses it like 3 times
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I created a new session and copy-pasted the aliases from the other one and it's nice now
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in this example #PRINT GMCP.room: info="num=21172|name=TrEz's Manor|zone=manor3|terrain=city|details=bank,graffiti|exits=""n=1254|e=30599|s=21171|w=26641|d=32418""|coord=""id=0|x=54|y=16|cont=0"""
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it parsed it or something
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: #PRINT GMCP.room: gmcp.room
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so where's the list of those gmcp % parameters
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what should be the pattern for a gmcp trig
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: comm.channel doesn't work :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh it works actually...
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: channel any application rather then mxit ,that can access me to aardwolf?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the official mush client, perhaps?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: download from aardwolfs homepage.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know if there's the opposite of the getkeyword function in the aardmapper? looking for something that will get area name from keyword
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: and for mobile?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google for mud clients
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ask abelinc when he's around, he had some suggestions, but I don't remember which
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can you mark random blank spaces in a trig on cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: %s
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well does it mark one space or many
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: use regex, trez
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: \s*
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inferno Tech: any number of spaces (one or more than one)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: \s* for 0 or more and \s
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: and \s+ for 1 or more
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: drop zscript pattern matching faster than an ugly baby ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can't find the regex box tho, is it auto
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: all macros have Send to server unchecked now :(
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud strips () brackets for some reason, is there a way to stop that ?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: (1432324) is aard serial
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I try to wear (1432324), it wears 1432324
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can put ~ but it's pain in the ass
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: if you want it to be interpreted as a string, put it in quotes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: occurs too many times
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: parentheses will evaluate anything in them
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why does he have to make all those tiny crappy changes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that take hours to fix
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and bring no benefit whatsoever
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you mean why did he make it work the way it always should have, but zmud was buggy as hell? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you could use the brackets on zmud just fine
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: perhaps, but you had to use %eval to do math :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you fix this 'bug' now I have 3k lines to waste my time on
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: even basic addition
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: 3k lines? you're a bit script-heavy ain't yer?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Not particularly. I'm about the same in mushclient.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sounds excessive to me
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's an exaggeration
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: now that sounds more reasonable, i'm good at exagerations
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: but 3k lines for changing aard eq? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but since it's aard serial it's a bitch to change
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: just use the id number
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have to rewrite it all
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Well, I'm doing a bunch of output wangling for my screen reader, and sound triggers and management and etc. If I didn't have that to do, the stuff I wrote to actually perform commands on the mud is probably less than a quarter of that.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: was asking for a simpler solution
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: you could write a script to rewrite it all for you
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Any help on getting the package.loadlib() function to work in MUSHClient?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: not tried it yet
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Have you checked your LUA sandbox to make sure that function is allowed?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: game -> configure -> scripting
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, there's nothing in the sandbox.. how do I allow that function?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is there at least a comment in the sandbox? Because if it's empty, mushclient will just replace it with the default contents.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: There's a comment in it
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So what happens when you try to use it?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: because that function should work, in that case.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmmm.. actually, upon looking further.. it might actually be working
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, good. :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just the function inside the library is failing... hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what extern lib are you calling?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: mysql.dll
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Have you read the posts on the mushclient forum about using mysql? I haven't, but I do remember them. So those might help.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm working on a VI version of mushclient, but the sound support in mush is pretty weak
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Use comaudio to replace the playsound functions.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was wondering if there was something i could call that would handle sound better?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: google comaudio mushclient and it should pop up.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: will do! thanks guys
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yes, that's where I'm getting my information from.. might have an incompatible library
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: FastFinge you use mushclient and have knowledge of VI. Do you know of an existing VI mush project?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: http://www.allinaccess.com/mc/
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That has the base plugins. Then you need to create packages for whatever mud.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Like in Aardwolf, using GMCP to read out stats with hotkeys, as prompts aren't useful. In other muds, you need to parse the prompt
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Or in godwars2, you need to...I don't even want to talk about what you need to do there. :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm planning on keeping it fairly low-tech at first.. replying on my beta-user's own screan reader to start with.. but putting in alter triggers and allowing use of mapper
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^alert triggers
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Mapper works as is. All you need to do is mapper.hide when the plugin is first run, and it tends to stay that way. The mapper find, mapper goto, and mapper cexit aliases all work with the screen reader plugins.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i do that mapper hide already
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: A nice extra would be to do a mapper runto that just runs to the first result it gets from mapper find.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: As for alert triggers, the only ones I use are for quests. I have f2 report percent of hp, control f2 report max hp, and shift f2 report current hp. I do the same thing with f3 for mana, f4 for moves, f5 for str, etc, etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Then i have spellups and autohunt and all that jaz, but that has nothing to do with VI access. It just has to do with the fact I want to type less.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Strip all the miniwindow stuff from bastmush, and it can be used as is.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, and I also use Capture Mud Output to redirect mud output to a notepad window. You can just write that yourself it's so simple, but if you don't want to, you can find one at http://randylaptop.com/software/mushclient/all/1/
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Note that if you're capturing to notepad for a long time, you'll want a timer to clear the notepad window every hour or so. If you don't, mushclient will run out of memory and crash every few hours as Aardwolf really does send a lot of text.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Uh, sorry everyone else who isn't WinkleWinkle. That kind of turned into something that should have been a personal note. I'll shut up, now.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: hmph .. notepads overflowing and crashing -- that is bad programing by either mushclient and or microsoft Windows -- no true professionalism these days, only pretenders
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: anyone feel like helping me make hostname.ath0 work rightly with the output of wpa-psk nwid password ?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sounds like BSD?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes...
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude cringes in terror!
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone with experience with MySQL here?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i have little experience
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, uh, hm. Well, I'ven't used it much, but I seem to recall the Atheros driver working perfectly
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's the issue?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it won't associate to a wifi access point with the specified output of wpa-psk and the way i configured the hostname.ath file
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Does it work with unencrypted WiFi?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: not as far as i can tell
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ok, well, I'm trying to connect to a MySQL database (which I can connect to in a browser using phpMyAdmin) but it's giving me Access denied for user through MUSHClient..
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but i think the fault is not in the stars, but in the config
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Using a version of LuaSQL for MUSH
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: instead of of phpmyadmin, have you tried stragiht from command line?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I haven't. How do I do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry i havent tried mysql with lua
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there any reason you're not using SQLite? It's awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i second that Winkle
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm using SQLite. I'm trying to also integrate MySQL for sharing across players.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: one database multiple machines different location
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that sounds very cool!
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: So how do I connect to mysql using command line?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra, right now it is set up as ' dhcp rtsol nwid belkin wpa wpa-psk xrealllylongstring
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: but it doesnt seem to be the right way
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sorry, I don't know, but I'd start out with trying unencrypted WiFi, then asking on #freebsd channel in FreeNode.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: cizra i dunno, the guys in that channel seem almost as rude as redhat users
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: axz have you read http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=5983 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9682
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: axz have you read http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=5983 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?id=9682recall
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: GentooX, I have. That's where I'm starting from... I have it all installed, I just cannot connect to a MySQL server yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: check the second thread second page
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: does room uid 19450 have a 'd' exit to wildwood?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper goto 321 gets stuck in room 19450
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: It doesn't anymore. Rightclick that room, delete the exit to wildwood... then use the normal runto command to get to wildwood again.. fixed
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a good idea to purgezone replacement areas
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there! I just wrote a mapper purgeroom function
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: let us know how the beta-testing goes. Would be a cryin' shame if you just
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guala Tech: in zmud is there a command i can use to close/clear a window i used for capture?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guala Tech: for example i use #capture group, i want to close the group window
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: #CLR to erase all the text in the window, #CLOSE to close the window entirely.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Guala Tech: thnx:)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Hmm... Google's Chrome notebook is not only going to be fully purchasable, but you can elect to "subscribe" to use it on a monthly basis for like $20 a month.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: $240 per annum -- for the rest of your natural born soulless life in servitude to the rent collecting google man (?)
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: no thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the price of notebooks may come down, and if they do, renters may be wanting to break their contracts
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a rent-to-own computer costs at least 2.5 times as an outright purchase.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: dokkar, when businesses shut down you can usually get a computer for 20-30 bucks
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it seems silly to pay more than a hundred
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: No.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: anyone have any experince with Com Audio to play sounds
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've installed it.. but I'm not sure how to invoke it
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: Does anyone know where the file that saves my triggers is located in the Mush folders?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is it in the aardwolf.mcl?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it is
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: are you sure?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: he sounded sure
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: you can also save your triggers elsewhere via the save button
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: i wish he was that good with hostname.ath0's
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: right...but i didnt know if it did that automatically somewhere else
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude looks at Erikson ponderingly.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude looks at you ponderingly.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: BSD?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VampireDude sobs quietly to himself because GentooX was a jerk!
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: /me don't know how BSD works
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: it just works. except when it doesnt
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: its like prayer. in a way
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: yeah pester abe though he'll point you at tf and pat your head and push you away
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zarquil no, i have collected goodberries, and will attempt to bribe him for tech supportage ?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crixus Tech: vampiredude i saw a super funny quote about you on the daoine quote site. I think you should go read it and stop talking.
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: zarquil in fact, i've been camped out on abe's doorstep for a while now, if he ever answers the door i can try to give him the goodberries
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: weight per volume and percentage weight per total weight are different
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: ok... but how to find either when it comes to a bottle of alcohol?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: state exactly what the bottle specifies
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 746.5 mg/ml is common
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: Contains not more than 3.2% alcohol by weight cont. 12 fl oz. serve at 40-45 F
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 746.5 mg/ml is common with rubbing ethanol
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: 3.2% by weight is approx at least 4.1% by volume
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: may even be higher percentage by volume with a heavy syrup
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}VampireDude Tech: boiled cabbage turning blue is an indicator of high alkalinity or high acidity?
T3/r3/2011-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskull Tech: http://chemistry.about.com/od/acidsbase1/a/red-cabbage-ph-indicator.htm -- Looks like slightly alkaline
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: with php if i wanted to do multiple lines in an email im sending can i use
or is there another way to do it?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just put a newline in there.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I assume that was a BR tag?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: ya sorry i have xml off so it was not parsed for me
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: PHP is essentially a markup language generator, so your results will reflect the rules of that language. I dunno if it's universal to all languages, but for HTML that means it ignores whitespace. BR or some equivalent (slash-n?) will be necessary.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not in an email
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a new line in an mail will be interpreted literally
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I thought he was wanting to generate an email in PHP?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes. Still true.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: now that im trying to add "/n" it just gives me a syntax error in dreamweaver
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just add a newline, nothing else. Just press the enter key where you want the newline.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: hello?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: well?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: can any1 tell me if aardwolf uses a lot of data when playing on my comp?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: no, it doesnt :-) not no we cannot tell
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: how much would u saz'
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: well you can type mccp if you have a client. mine shows 5Mb data in, compressed to 600k, in 2 hours
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: reduction 88 percent
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: so roughly how long would a gig last when playing aardwolf?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: couple of years?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: probably more
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: aard takes minimum bandwidth
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: especially if you have mccp on
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: r u joking or wwhat?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: thanks. Just 1 more thing. Is there an aardwolf wap site and apps to play it on my mobile
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: use any mobile ssh/telnet client
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: no wap site tho
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MasterT Tech: got any client name and where to dl
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: actually, i think it would last way more than couple of years
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: my biggest irc log is 270MB, 2 years idling on a channel with 700+ users
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: also, i use ssh compression via a vps, so i guess a gig would last pretty much forever
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how does the tick gmcp work
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: anyone know the armor off line.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: for trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Evra Tech: and can someone get a job and playstaion and sort it out
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if ffdshow icons aren't in tray, are they still working ?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I tried runnign ComAudio in Mushclient yesterday, but I'm getting an error playign the sound
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Did you install the SDK?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it executes the "onPlaySound" event and receives the file, but throws a -214578645843 type number
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: that page had a plugin, and an SDK you need to install.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i DID install the sdk
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Hmmm. Are you on windows XP, or 7, or what?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but it was on Win 7.. i wonder if it's compatible with that
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Good question...
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my other questions is .. do i pass the full file path or does it knwo to look in \muschclient\sounds
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: neither worked for me
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i couldn't find any documentation on comaudio
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I always pass it the full path. I'm not sure if it's required, but that's what I do.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: and it works on win7. Just checked. What format are you using? My sounds are all ogg.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was trying to play a .wav
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe that wasn't very smart
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what formats does it play? mp3? ogg?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: liek i said i couldnt' find any documenation.. but i now realise i didn't look int he SDK install directory
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol.. i just foudn the readme.txt
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Got it up WinkleWinkle?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Sorry, I was on the phone. Friend is in hospital.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh i'm sorry!
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you're looking for examples of a VI client package, Alter Aeon has a really good one called mushz. It's at: http://www.oriolg.es/mush.php
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thanks FastF.. i knew you'd be able to help me. My friend wants to try mushclient and the excellent mapepr that goes with it...
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I test it out for another 8 hours or so.. but I think i'll have success tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I CAN'T test it out for another 8 hours or so.. but I think i'll have success tonight
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!* Go WinkleWinkle!!! Fastfinge cheers him on.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I've been trying to package my own blind distribution for two weeks, now. The problem is, as a blind player, I have so many hundreds of little tweeks that make no sense to anyone but me, no docs, and no easy way to clean up the code. My sound stuff is all in a file called gmcpleveler.lua for reasons known only to me, etc. I'm about to just give up.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well it sounds like we're working on something similar... if you can share your file, I'd love to have a look
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm really hoping that when you guys figure out this blind distro thing that you'll let me know, so I can work the changes into the official client package
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or at least clean it up and make a separate VI release
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does gmcp trig take less resources than a normal trig ?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: pattern matching in a text stream
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: same process, different streams
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so it'd actually be slower since it has a pattern with less characters than a full one
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: eh?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: But you're better to use only one or only the other, if you can. If you've got the libraries required by GMCP loaded, already, best to get as much use out of them as you can. Or if you don't need GMCP, stick to triggers and don't load those extra includes.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: i doubt you'd see any performance difference either way
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: since you're not using zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Uh, true. Thought we were talking about mushclient. The GMCP client in mushclient isn't built in, so using it can use a lot of extra resources. Is support built in to zmud?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud, but not sure
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: no, no built in support in zmud, only reason i mentioned it is that zmud is coded so badly that pretty much anything can have a noticable performance hit, even on a fast pc
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: little reason to assume zugg has suddenly got better at coding in cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the gmcp handler in mushclient is unlikely to have any noticeable impact on performance
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the MUD only updates eight times per second
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: True. I assumed the discussion was theoretical.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: don't fearmonger about performance issues that don't exist :)
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I was thinking a trigger that has a simple pattern would slow it down
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: a single trigger won't. thousands of them probably will to some degree.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I wasn't attempting to do so. All I was saying is that if you aren't using GMCP for anything, don't load GMCP. Or if you can use all triggers or all GMCP, do that instead of mixingthem.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: comm.channel vs a pattern is longer than 12 chars
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does cmud have a setting for refresh amount like zmud
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: couldn't find it
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I was thinking the tick gmcp thingie showed when the mud ticks, and was gonna add a trig so it syncs my timer
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it doesn't work for some reason anyways :p
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I saw a timer on mush that prolly uses gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: because it refreshed every 3 secs or something
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There are timers that count down every second for MUSH. Or do you mean it resyncs every 3 seconds?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: TrEz, that comment makes no sense
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the tick timer updates every 2 seconds, but that has nothing to do with gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it doesn't even use gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: and it could easily be made to update every second if I thought it mattered
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could fix that.. by disabling the trigger once it executes.. and then once you quaff, re-enabling the quaff trigger
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: quaff triggers, eh? :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno how it works just saw it goes down in value every 2-3 secs, not every sec
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I thought it syncs with gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's the tick in gmcp then
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it only synchronizes on a tick. it's just arbitrarily set to update the time every 2 seconds
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it doesn't use gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it uses something that predates gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's this gmcp tick tho, in gmcp.comm
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a 1 time gmcp message that fires when mud ticks
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: there is a gmcp tick message. but the mushclient tick timer doesn't use it.
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the tick timer uses a tick telopt
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see 'help telopts'
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what would be the trig pattern for the gmcp message then, comm.tick doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that's not how gmcp works
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see http://forums.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=158455#158455
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I've read that before, reread it and it still makes no sense for tick
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it comm.tick
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: should it provide a message that is received, or do I need to send it
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: looked at http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/CmudGMCP ?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has no example for tick and I tried stuff, waiting 30 seconds to test diff. patterns is giving me pain
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not so important anyways, could go without tick
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: maybe you should switch to mushclient then
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why should I switch to mushclient I was just curious how tick works
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i think you just need to set trigger type to gmcp
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme check I forgot to do that
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well there we go, it's a simple message
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and I forgot to set it to gmcp so wasn't working
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: cant get network to function on my comp. just reformatted and it was fine as i was dl'ing updates and such. however now it wont even connect to lan, and if i rightclick to attempt troubleshoot problems/etc it doesnt respond :p any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm assuming it's windows?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: version?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: vista ultima 32bit
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: are the LEDs on teh network card lighiting up with network activity?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: they are
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and you have the net card drivers installed?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: yeah, hence i was functioning online just yesterday
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hmmm
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: your problem is vista :p
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh but not helpful :D
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: tried booting from 7dvd but it wont work
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: so cant even install that
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: perhaps need drivers for the network card? *shrug*...
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: my guess is drivers
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what did you install since then? A firewall? Virus scanner?
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: i cant even open chrome or firefox
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "was dl'ing updates" and then the difficulties --
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: the thinks and they never even pop up o.o
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: possible that when you updated other thing since the initiall driver install you need an even newer card driver
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "was dl'ing updates" from where
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: windows update
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: and i backup/restore center won't load up either... so much for reverting updates
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: was the Windows OS from microsoft retail or from an OEM
T3/r3/2011-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroda Tech: oem
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: anyone use Awesome?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: anyone using bast's spellup?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I am
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: I get a Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: when i just started the client
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: it always happens any idea why?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type plugins reload bsst
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What happens when you do that?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: fixed it =P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: so do i have to do that everytime?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know. I just know that fixes it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: thanks turie, appreciate it tons
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Welcome.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: also, if it fails a spell is there a way to get it to recast without having to click?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You mean it removes it from the spellup list? I just go in know the spell's number and scroll down to it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: no, it just waits in the pending category where it says waiting
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: It should recast on failure, but on rare occasions it doesn't...I find doing 'bsp fast' tends to kick it into life
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: just type bsp fast?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: That's what I do, I think there's other ways to prod it back to life. 'bsp fast' just causes it to catch up all spellups in one go
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: ah nod, thanks so much guys, just started playing with it today
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gawyn: Do you have Active or Paused?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: its active right now
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I know Bast will be putting out a new version in the next few weeks if he gets the time to work on it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: awesome get to relearn another one then =P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Anyone available for some suggestions, Cmud related
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: probably
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: I am unable to completely install Cmud 3.32 and 3.34. However Cmud 2.37 installs and runs.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Installation fails when its trying to load Cmud.exe/regserver
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: can't really help you with that. what os? you could try asking on the cmud forum
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Win7
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gramdel Tech: zugg is pretty active there
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: installing with admin priveledges?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: sacrificed a virgin?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: next step.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nasus Tech: Zugg forums suggests its DEP. I was unsuccessful in installing Cmud after playing with the DEP settings.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to change the default map file for cmud
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it keeps loading me own one
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there option to change cmud refresh amount ?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so ffdshow won't start with wmp, is there any way to make it load ?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: ||_||~|?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: Lua w/ VI?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: usefulness in a radial of 1-90?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: nm
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratoi Tech: missed the slower boat through schools knocks & cjecks tp bum wreckage.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does cmud have refresh rate option
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Anyone here used the Hive conv() function?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: how do i define a variable in a mushclient script? local VarName doesn't work.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so i've noticed in gammon's docs he says to access a sqlite database a certain way, but the gmcp_mapper seems to use some sort of helper class
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which helper class is it using?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what does he say to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: last
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Bah. Ignore me.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: first
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Yeah yeah, codebase confusion.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: DatabasePrepare ("db", "SELECT * from weapons ORDER BY name")
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in gmcpmapper it's more like
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: where does he say that?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for row in db:nrows(string.format("SELECT uid FROM areas WHERE name LIKE %s
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: DatabasePrepare is for precompiled statements
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: the mapper doesn't use them
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9262
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: now i'm happy with either method.. i just would liek to know what the one using db:nrows is.. so i cna find out the API
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: see here: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_sqlite3
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: GREATLY appreciated
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: np
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: this is exactly what i was looking for.. thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: anyone using cmud 3.34?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there a mushclient LuaSQLite command that will do an ExecuteScalar? All i want is a number from the database... not to have to process rows
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: what number?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: like a count?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless it's an aggregate number, you're always processing rows in some fashion
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: don't know luasqlite.. but all databases have some sort of select count(*) from table.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: sqlite supports the count() function in your queries
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes... like a count.. a count to tell if soemthing exists
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i only want to insert a row if it doens't exist already.. but INSERT or REPLACE doesn't seem to be working
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: perhaps because i have an identity column as well
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: better to put a constraint on the database then to do that check
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't insert a value for the identity column
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: let the database do the work.. not sure if sqlite supports that
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: but if it does.. thats the way you want to do it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm leaving the id field not included.. but maybe the id column breaks teh or REPLACE part of the sql
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: WinkleWinkle there are probably places in the gmcp mapper that already deal with this problem. try looking for them
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. i'm using that as my reference .. you use INSERT or REPLACE it seems.. i'll try dropping the useless auto id column and trying again
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: look for other spots
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: auto id might be being used as a primary key.. may not want to drop that.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's my own table, so i'll be safe hacking around Scryn.. but thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: REPLACE only works if there is a uniqueness constraint in place
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: look for the comment "-- don't add multiple times, maintaining backwards database compatibility (there's no uniqueness constraint on rooms_lookup.uid)"
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: merci!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: hm. there should probably be a break in that exists loop
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: oh never mind. it only ever returns one thing
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll be able to adapt it.. :) thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i got "insert or replace" working.. thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you're a blind player using NVDA, you should update to the latest nightly build. It includes changes to how punctuation is handled, resulting in Aardwolf messages getting read as "your damage implodes your target" rather than "your damage less less less asterisk asterisk asterisk less less implodes less less less asterisk less less your target". This saves time.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: good to know, thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: NVDA?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Nonvisual Desktop Access. An open source screen reader from http://www.nvda-project.org/
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And sorry about spamming everyone else. I hae long felt that Aardwolf should have a channel for VI players for this kind of thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: meh, if it's on tech people can let their VI friends know as well :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: I recommend dam 2 in that case. a bit boring, pimpslap, but less info
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: or people who aren't vi can help people who are :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Jerome: What is dam 2? It sounds like it may be useful?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: type damage without an argument and it'll give the options
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: you can set damage messages. if you type dam 2, all messages are pimpslap
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Wow! You learn something new every day! I was considering doing this in LUA; didn't know Aardwolf could already do it for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: type damage for the options
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Just did. This should reduce verbosity hugely. That is always a good thing.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: mxt is n xmpl whr its nt a gd thng
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm easily confused. What's the difference between dam 2 and dam 3, exactly?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: 2 is experimental (ie, may not work correctly)?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: damage 2 is just "pimpslaps"
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerome Tech: not much. 3 gives the verb, 2 pimpslap. both give the total in a number as well. but all is better than 0, where you get all lines for each attack
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah, but they both seem to be one line per round. So how are they different?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I use damage 0
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: fastfinge, they are different in that damage 2 is more predictable because the damage verb doesn't change
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: one gives the correct line for the damage output, the other gives pimpslaps for everything
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So what about dam 1? I assumed dam 1 would do what you're saying dam 3 does.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: total damage vs average damage
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Quick thought - try 'em out?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: 1 is the total damage, 3 is the average damage
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: so if you hit it 3 times and do 750 damage each, 1 will display 750 damage, 3 will display 250 damage
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: majic just failed at math
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Ah, okay.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: erm, i meant 250 damage each, total of 750 :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majic :D
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: i spent too long correcting quizzes and now i'm starting to make their errors :(
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: how do you know your corrections were correct and not subject to said errors?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (at least you aren't making "they're" errors)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majic Tech: because I'm a lot more careful when I'm marking someone else's work? :P
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: In adding a bio section to my table, whenever I use the character - it creates a warning and excludes the dash. Adding a \ in front of it has no effect, any suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: in SQL.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Hmm, fixed it I guess, anyone know how to delete all entries with name='Anne'? 9-)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: remove from table where ...
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Found it, delete from table where...
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: or that
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: whats the command to pause and resume spellups with the latest BAST minwin_spellup ?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: anyone using bast's minwin version of spellup able to tell me how to macro the "waiting" so i dont have to click it with the mouse i would greatly appreciate it.
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: is there some way to disable the f1 as being the program help macro?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you can't ask that question without specifying what you mean by "the program"
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: good point, aardwolf mush client
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: sorry about that
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: File->Global Preferences...->General and check F1,F6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: done, thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: is there any way to transfer or use the aardwolf mushclient mapper to make maps?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: ...isn't that what it does automatically?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well of course the data is stored in a standard SQL Lite database....of course I think you'd have to do the work yourself on the conversion to some sort of external mapping system :)
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: haha let me rephrase, I meant to make maps out of the database, in some other format which is viewable?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ah okay, are there programs out there that can help with the conversion?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you could probably easily make that happen by hooking into the part that draws the map in the miniwindow
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that would be in aardmapper.lua
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: okay, maybe I'm trying to do something way out of my expertise here :(
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: hey fiendish are you familiar with bast's minwin_spellup plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I bet Bast is, though
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gawyn Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dobee Tech: is there any way to speed up your spellup aside from wish's???
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: no...
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Practice the skills higher?
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Type faster!
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dobee Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FatesDagger Tech: oby wins
T3/r3/2011-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in terms of the lag you incur by using the cast command, no. In terms of strategizing and eliminating unnecessary idle time so that you're not stuck in a huge pile of what are essentially stacked commands, yes (use the CAST command, most usually via a plugin).
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: in php if i have an else statement can i put other if statements in there?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: if (xxx) if(xxx) if(xxx){{{}}}
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anaristos Tech: rather, if (xxx) {if (yyy) {if (zzz) {}}}
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i was trying an else {some stuff IF(blagh) {whatever}} ... it was not workin so i changed the else to elseif and just added some !isset and it worked
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: if i plugged an ipod charget into a droid wall charger converter thing.. what could happen
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: it could charge it ...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: thats what i'm thinking..
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: it would work fine charging i believe
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gruagach Tech: good enough for me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: Hey anyone know how to make links in a word document universal? Meaning, I want to put a link in a word document to a file, so when the link is clicked on the file will open.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: But, the file needs to be able to be opened from other computers not just my own.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gravy Tech: i think you cant do that..
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: What if you put those files in a folder with that document?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: currently the mapper for the mushclient has recorded a particular room to the exit -1, so anytime I'm running to a room with -1 it goes to that room by default. How do I change this?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: or even prevent a -1 room id from being recorded
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Cygwin takes ages to install
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: why use cygwin in the first place?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Linux doesn't take ages to install (=
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Messing with compiling a few things, I know right? I could of dual-booted a Linux partition by now..
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Been going..oooh, an hour, 39% the way there.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: virtual machines work, too. install debian base with devel tools
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is there a way to teach the MUSHclient automapper about doors?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: mapper cexit.... you can stack commands
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: GentooX, how do I stack commands with mapper cexit?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do you stack commands normally
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: With a semicolon. However, if I type mapper cexit open s s, then I'll get two separate commands and the mapper gets "mapper cexit open s" only.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: how do you type a semicolon on a channel? use two of them
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If I turn off command stacking, however, then mapper cexit fails because I don't move.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i tried fixing that by making an alias called opens
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: using a semicolon stacks it -_-
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that had open s;;s
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: ; <---
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hooray! Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but even then i don't feel mush mapper has the idea of where doors are.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on chan would be ~
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what can I do with Bast's container sort plug-in when it won't load and returns "Line 1: Expected '<', got "{" (content not permitted here) (Cannot load)"
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Sure that's his, or is that mine?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it's called Container_Sort.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tenlorn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Think that might be mine. It'll show the author, if you go to file->plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: it won't load it in and doesn't show up in the list of plugins
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: can I get a link to yours?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Should show the author 5 or 6 lines down if you edit the .xml file
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr&hl=en
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea, that's yours
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Running on windows or unix?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: an interesting plugin
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you open the xml file in notepad/wordpad, do you see extra characters there that don't show up in the link?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If I had to guess, somewhere in the process of getting it from that website to your xml file, something used the wrong encoding
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what's the best way to download and import it?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Are you on windows or unix?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: windows
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: open notepad, copy/paste everything in that google docs into notepad, and save it as Container_Sort.xml
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, doing that now
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so this plugin takes everything out of a container and then adds it all back in in order, does it?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Pretty much
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or does it sort the "look in" response?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Nope
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: It's pretty inefficient -- I never bothered to clean it up
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: But it works
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: very interesting.. especially the use of Queue... haven't seen that used yet
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: It works very well, and makes life a lot easier, thanks Madcatz
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: You can also get all items in a certain range out of a bag
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: ok, that worked. thanks Madcatz
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: The speedwalk queue is just so you don't get disconnected for sending 500 commands in a second
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i still get "Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles." before it starts working
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: After typing "sort bag"?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: yea
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Entopee Tech: Have you reinstalled the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Type echocommands and try it again?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: Should be able to see what it's sending
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: i just did
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, echocommands rules
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: now it says That is not a command. Type Commands for a complete list
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Madcatz Tech: If you turn echocommands on, it'll tell you what command you're trying to do
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Haven't you watched the Matrix?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: wow you could save one million players objects with a gig of hardrive
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Diesalot Tech: anybody on mush client using the plugin for sorting items in bags according to lev etc?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: is the mud connector at www.mudconnect.com down for anyone else?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't load it
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it works for me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: works fine for me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: you gotta type www.mudconnect.com
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: mudconnect.com isnt working for me but www.mudconnect.com works fine
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I did.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: neiterh work for me.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye he did
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: neither, rather
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it's not loading
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Mine's the opposite mudconnect.com works, but www.mudconnect.com doesn't
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's because they run from Amazon s# services vis Sony's PSN
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: (i meant) it's because they run from Amazon s3 services via Sony's PSN
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think you mean Amazon's EC2 services ;) s3 hasn't been down for a couple of years :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: s3 ec2.. yadda yadda yadda
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Hi
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: What could be the possible reasons for not being able to login on a specific web pages site, everytime I log in and try click on another tab it logs me out and I have to log in again.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: service provider
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: or the webpage host
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: or the web page server
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: I have now tried on the following browsers : Windows Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, Safari 5 and Google Chrome.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: or the web page owner
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: try netscape navigator
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Mkay
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Netscape work well?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: <---sarcastic
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: It's way slower than Mosaic.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: make sure you are not going to like www.page.com and when you click on a tab it redirects to page.com/tab ... that could kick you out
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: hadar thats what it is doing
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: so login at page.com not www.page.com .... =/
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sounds like a cookie problem
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Well apparently I am connecting through page.com not www.page.com
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: http://eternal-wow.com/forum/ucp.php?mode=login (when i log in) when i try click on a tab http://eternal-wow.com/server/vote/ (then i am logged out)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sounds like a cookie problem
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: I have used ccleaner to clear my cache, cookies etc.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: they might be setting the cookie wrong on there site
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Well what can I do then?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: So no ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: i just tested it and it did not kick me out on chrome
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: let me try again on chrome.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: did you create an account on the site?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: yup lol
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: you didnt have a problem agreeing to the terms?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Strange when I click on agree to the terms I the page auto refreshes
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: did not kick me out on FF
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: anyone work with command line php?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: did you try click on vote or item shop?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: not for awhile.. whats your question cheez?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hadar Tech: vote link
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: by that i mean using php.exe rather than using web browser to execute code
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: well i have webpages that work great - but when i try to run them from command line they bomb out
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: once you clicked on vote tab, did you try click on one of the possibly sites you can vote on?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: doesnt recognise OCI_connect as function and such
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: possible*
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: are you running them on the server that they're hosted on?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: there are libraries that are loaded through httpd.conf (or similar depending on how you have them hosted)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: that probably arent loaded when you just run them using php.exe
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: using wamp but yea lemme check env variabels
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: didnt think about that
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: apache leaves stuff on ram and some stuff doesnt work sometimes in orignal ways
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: definitely sounds like something isn't getting imported during runtime...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it could be your service provider
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: you want me to give you an alternate file on mudconnect.com and try that url?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: goodle mudconnect.com and try thoughs urls
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: no urls on mudconnect work. Not voting, not anything.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: figured it out
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: can you goole mudconnect?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: what was the problem cheez?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: wasnt thinking that the php.exe doesnt use the same ini that the webserver uses
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes. I can even look at google's cash.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: try this url http://www.mudconnect.com/cgi-bin/member/login_front.cgi
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It doesn't work. It wouldn't, seeing as I cannot ping it, because I cannot resolve the hostname.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What file I try for really doesn't matter in that situation.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: and you can browse other webpages.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The DNS servers at mudconnect are screwed up, I think.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I thought they were hosted at wolfpaw, though? They're resolving, still.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Anyone know how to change cookie settings for google chrome?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: it's in options, under the under the hood part IIRC
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElementPyros Tech: Ok seriously, what can I do to get this website to stop auto logging me out everytime I click on a tab?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What website, ElementPyros?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Anyone else find the new Unity interface on ubuntu 11.11 disgusting?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: On the same note, is there a way to get the sidebar panel on the bottom and smaller?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greenwing Tech: anyone know of a better mobile mud client than pocket pity
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greenwing Tech: putty8
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: Did you know ISP service providers block port 80
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: did you know most routers respond with closed with default stealth settings to probes to port 113?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: for the obsolete irc network
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If they did that, you couldn't access any websites at all. I doubt any ISP does. Well, some probably do block port 80 outgoing, but you shouldn't be running a web server on a home connection anyway. Pay for a VPS or something.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I run a webserver on a home connection.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You shouldn't. It's against your AUP and/or TOS, probably. AAnd a VPS is inexpensive and fast. Nobody on a home connection should be running mail or web servers for any reason at all. It would kill 99% of phishing and spam if they were all disabled.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: can c programming detect computer that is using there network program
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, uninstalled unity on the new ubuntu 11.04, how do i make gnome-panels load on login instead of having to select 'ubuntu classic' as the login mode? The workaround i found now was to do "screen gnome-panels" in a terminal and then close it so that the panels don't end when i close the terminal. Any ideas?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: s/panels/panel/g
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: for those using a cmud speedwalk script using %walk(), do you preparse the result beyond removal of the speedwalk character (period by default) or just send it raw via the run command?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: i parse the cmud paths into mud run commands
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: In regards to my ealier question, a simple workaround that i found was to add a script to /etc/init.d/ called 'start_panel' and it contained 'gnome-panel' as the command. Works for now, but if anyone has a better solution i'm all ears.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do you find unity?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: with a shovel
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I removed unity, pissed me off.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ohhh cool
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I don't want a linux window manager to tell me how my stuff must look, that's a very windows thing to do.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: heh. well said
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how about 11.04 in general? any comments?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: you mean with gnome or kde instead?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: For some reason my wifi seems laggier, and unity is a piece, but other than that it's just 10.10
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Does it have anything worthwhile other than unity? I have no plans to upgrade my server because it's not LTS, but should I?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im not a desktop fan... i love my fluxbox
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Not worth it tbh, fast
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: there's virtually no change other than unity as the winman
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge thanks Cheezburger heartily.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I'm not sure what the dev team's reasoning behind unity was, but it was a bad call.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: That's what I thought, but thought I might have missed something.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: From what I've read, they want to compete with OS X.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it was the easy switch from windows
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Too easy, if you ask me
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and mac
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Linux needs to stick to what linux is, and stop trying to be windows.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: IMHO, Linux needs to stick to servers, and stop trying to get on my desktop, because it never will. The right tool for the job. And Linux is the right tool for a server.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: well the ones the know their "thing" can always customize :D
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I run 1 machine with doze on it, and it's simply to upgrade my malwarebytes i carry on a flash drive that i use to fix people's comps.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If we could get Windows and Mac to agree to stop making servers, that would be good, too.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Unity doesn't allow customization unless you change the source and recompile.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: agreed
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Helped set up a PHP server at school, and they run a doze 2k server, effing retarded.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, boy! WAMP!
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger nods.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: (chuckles) well that means more opportunity for us *grins
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: OS X is better as a server, but not by much.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I disagree
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: it's better by alot, but the bar isn't set very high
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Better than windows, while still managing to be terrible. Ever tried to turn off the GUI in OS X? And the docs for OS X server are *awful*. One of the few times Linux docs win hands down.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Even checking the logs for a serverside error on windows servers becomes an ordeal, whereas on *NIX, i simply type rgrep "" -- Holy **** there's your error, Windows "We can't find the error, but there is an error, and the error is causing some issue we can't identify
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Accept that OS X does not use standard linux tools, because they're unix pretending to be Linux that's sort of BSD accept not really.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You fall to the floor laughing at Fastfinge's remark.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're unix...not pretending to be linux, since linux is pretending to be unix
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: lmfao
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Linux isn't trying to be unix, linux is trying to build on unix ;)
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a tad backwards on who's trying to be whom, and who's pretending to be whom
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: So sayeth Linus :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so sayeth linux years afterward when he's trying to change people's opinions...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linus*
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I'm not gonna lie, when he started, his goal was very ill concieved, but it /eventually/ served it's purpose.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: changing your story doesn't change your actual objective
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What I mean is that Apple likes to pretend that the fact that they're Unix makes them just like Linux, and try and sell servers. Unless they're talking about security, when they say they're just like BSD. I realize the difference between Linux and Unix, and so does Apple, accept when they're marketing servers.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't say it was ill conceived, it was just a school project
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Valid point.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unix is for servers, linux is for hobbyists
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Also true, but linux does it's part in server's as well.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not pretending to be just like linux...they're already better
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Define better. Better, to me, means well supported and a place where things just work. In todays server environment, that means Linux.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: ... or unix.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's what all the support forums say
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Never say that to the face of a VMS guy...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we wouldn't have IT guys if things "just worked".
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, erikson gonna break out the "xxx measures uptimes in yyy" quotes?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But who would deal with the problems Between Keyboard And Chair if not for IT people?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: same people who invented the iD10T spec
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you forgot the "exists" :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Half of the support questions I see are from people attempting to run Linux desktops. My VPS does, in fact, just work. Never had any problems with my LAMP stack...or, well, anything else I've wanted to run (mail, news, penmush, etc). From what I see, everyone elses seems to do the same.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unix vps just works as well
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's vps stand for?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but vps is lowest common denominator wrt hardware shown to the OS
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: virtual private server
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically hosting-provider level VMs
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Does it have apt-get or yum or something? If not, it doesn't just work in the way I define just work.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes fastfinge
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can even use my BSD-based package system on linux, solaris, etc
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The only "unix" I've had to deal with in person is what Apple calls Unix underpinnings of OS X, and it does not. Well, it does have macports and other third party package managers, but they're all some of the worst things in the history of computing.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Wow, THERE'S a short-term perspective...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there we get to the root of your opinions...ignorance :P
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fastfinge shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I don't care about history. I have work to do today. My only concerns are the best way to do it now.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: A couple hours on SCO would quickly disabuse you of that notion...
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is SCO not dead yet?
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: COBOL isn't even dead yet.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: This is computing. Nothing ever died. I'll lay good odds there are System/360's churning away.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm 22, and I feel like I've been glancing over long and complicated legal articles about SCO that I really don't care about since I started reading technical articles at about age 11.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: True Erikson. But if you want to do something now, they aren't the right solution any longer.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: They are if they're what's running. Green fields are endangered species.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: With computing becoming a more or less on demand resource thanks to the likes of racspace and Amazon, what's running is, for the most part, whatever the heck I want to be running.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Erikson Tech: Funny how you can put 'on demand' and 'Amazon' together this week.
T3/r3/2011-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Amazon wasn't down everywhere. The only people who went down were the people who didn't have themselves set up to quickly move to another Amazon zone.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: Anyone know what the new/upcoming file system is?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: I've heard it just can
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: er Ive heard it just can't remember the name...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: is there a way to set the number of lines to wrap output using a plugin?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miasmatic Tech: for mushclient:P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nist Tech: ..
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farkyss Tech: /
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nist Tech: just testing
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: hi guys
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: in the aardwolf client, how does one set an alias to parse suffixed variables?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Farkyss shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: for instance. alias ccal = cast 'cause light' .. my argument would be 'ccal bunny' - however the client will not accept the alias unless it's typed in by itself
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can make it a regex, and capture the argument...or you could make it a server-side alias, if it's that simple...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: going over it with tllamacazqui, trying some options
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: let you know what i find
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know why my output decided to double line-space? Using MUSHclient
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All good, I apparently made a \n trigger...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 2 different session of cmud with same packages have different speedtest times, why would that be
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: how would i make a mush plugin install any other plugins that are needed for it to work properly?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: basically i have a set of plugins that are clan specific. trying to package them together so there is a single plugin that needs to be added and it will add the other plugins automatically. not sure if thats doable, but i noticed basts v6 ones do something like that
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: basically something like on install check if the others are installed and if not, add them to the plugin list
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around himself intently.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how do i make it so my computer beeps when paged or when manor bell is rung?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: PlaySound()
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: where would i put that? also i use mush
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: I know what you use :P It's a mush function.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: where would it go though?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: erm...that's supposed to happen automatically...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it doesnt :( well let me see if it works for the manor bell, but what i really want is a page sound
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok the manor bell makes a noise
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how about a page?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myrkul Tech: it's supposed to
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nod, but it isnt :( i'd like it to
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I actually sends a beep code I think.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: what does?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It...the manor bell ring.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. well if the paging is supposed to make a noise, then i'd like to fix it so it does
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if the paging is not supposed to make a noise, id like to find a way to do it
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Game -> Configure -> Triggers, select the page message in the match, go down to where you can pick a sound, click browse, go to C:/WINDOWS/Media
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: my hero!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae looks at CheezFries and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae looks at Cheezburger and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok.. one last. so for a page you get this: Mendaloth pages you 'Oooh'
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: making a trigger that is * pages you doesn't work.. what is the syntax?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: * pages you *
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: otherwise it things it ends with you
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger nods at Scryn.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Otherwise it has to end at exactly 'you'
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: things = thinks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: lessee
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: anyone feel like paging me? :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: zomg!!!!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thank you!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cheezburger bows deeply.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes time to spam me with pages :D feel free - im happy it works
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn )
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you asked for it :-p
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh one more test
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: page me in two seconds
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes! it works when the window is down
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae bounces around.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: brilliance :) Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, how's firefox 4?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Crap with supported addons, and flash videos on porn sites blow.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: more information than I needed
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: You have been watching porn again. You are going to go blind from the amount you watch on a hourly basis. lol
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Likely true
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: v4 is fine. faster than 3
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: i didn't like the new ui, so i changed some setting to get back to 'classic look'
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: Faster coldboot, more aethetically appealling, but alot of addons aren't yet supported for it
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: the only thing i was missing until recently was vertical tabs
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: finally found a decent addon for it and i'm all good. must-have addons are all there, too. noscript, adblock, greasemonkey
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: my 4chan addon isn't supported :P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: yeah, that sucks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagnir Tech: but there's a greasemonkey script that does the same thing
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: analog VHS heterosexual porn (approved by god) was classier than digital analperverted porn (condemned by god)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz starts to hear the faint sounds of a cricket chirping.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: if porn was voluntary work with job opportunities elsewhere and they did it for the sleuth or perversion granted them, it would be less illegal than in the other context that is currently employed
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Xyliz: You are god?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: it may be considered military service in some country's
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Turies - shhhh, don't tell anybody, they won't believe you
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Necroshine Tech: panz heil government reich
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: in those timetracks were Adolf wins the war, that may be Saint Adolf
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: How do you change mush so that it keeps ur last typed command in the input box?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: alt+space, choose "keep command on imput line"
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cheezburger Tech: input*
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GabeLogan Tech: thanks man
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: most players do not want that, prefering to use up arrow instead
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: I wasn't connect to the mud and I got this output
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: "integrity_check"="ok"
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: and like 5 or siix other lines or maybe I was lemme check
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: nope i was disconnected
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it might have happened because of the client
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: I have an older 50inch tv (the fat kind) and the volume is getting screwey. The voices are way too soft and the base shakes the room. In the menu options, lowering or raising the base doesn't change a thing. The only thing that affects it is a menu item called "SBS", when it is off I get 0 volume, and raising it will raise the volume but it still keeps the voices quiet and base ridiculously loud... suggestions?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: so im new to gmcp - anyone mess with it in tintin?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your spouse :P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah Cheezburger has :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: he's afk
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, with 3 tt users on, you and he are 2 of them :P
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cartman would be the third
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: whats the command to see which clients are being used
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: nevermind
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: dumb question
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: carts used to do a fair bit of scripting, but I think he's been coasting for a few years now ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you poke around in Cheezburger's gmcp script he uses it extensively in there, might figure out what you need to do.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: people seriously have 120 friends on here - leaves no room for enemies
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Abelinc types "count"
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: who active might give a trueer picture of possibly enemies...
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i didnt mean literally no room, just sayin thats a lot for here - thats like friending the whole light clan
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chuft Tech: would you get the works of shakespheare?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, just because they're not active at the moment doesn't mean that can't be enemies
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: actually we need a nemesis list - so you can pk anywhere when you have mutually added each other to the list
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth perks up and stares intently at CheezFries.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: nemisis
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chuft Tech: feel free to add me
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we have it on a clan-by-clan basis ;-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: damnit had it right the first time
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chuft Tech: feel free to take abelinc outside and drop him in the recycling bin
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i mean anywhere like the raider/defender flags allow
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup cheez...clans can decide to be nemesis to other clans, on mututal agreement
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: atwar status
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: doh* rarely see that, I forgot
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: which client works good for a blackberry?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: midpssh to connect to a computer running a real MUD client :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox . o O ( unlike tf! )
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: may you please give me the link to the mobile client
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a blackberry-specific build of midpssh has a page at http://bbssh.org/
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: please give me the link to download the blackberry mud clien
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Blackberry Client....There is a telnet client called bbssh at bbssh.org
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: i have downloaded bbssh client ,i have no clue how it works
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: it is awesome
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: go into menu you can set like hotkeys and stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: and auto log ins
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: im in the deine new connection page ? Still confussed
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to do the following. Make a new connection, Connection Name: Aardwolf, Host: aardmud.org, Port: 23, Connection Type: SSH, and Save. This should get you a telnet connection to Aardwolf.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i havent used my blackberry in over a year..sorry i cant remember..it seemed pretty step by step though
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type telnet
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: From there, you will need to just setup any macros you wish to make.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: its connecting ,let me wait
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest Font: Legacy Font 4x6. This will allow the font to fit the screen size.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: why is it taking so long to connect?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: and for the networking connection type: ?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have Telnet
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Connection Type: Telnet. I was mistake with SSH.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: does anyone know how to get all of my windows in zmud to lock in place right now?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Try out MUSHclient. It does a nice job of doing it for you.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: thanks, but that's not really a solution for zmud lol
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: im in ", thank you
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc there's a lock layout option in zmud, check the menus
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: yeah, that locks them all in but it doesnt dock the windows
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there's no way to prevent floating windows from being moved around, if that's what you're after
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StevenSegal Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: lock layout just means docking is not allowed to happen.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and by extension, undocking.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: floating windows...y'know, float, that's kinda their thing :-)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: uhm how do i select/accept?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: ive entered my character name but cant accept to proceed and enter my pin
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, been a while since I made a new char, but either "y" or "accept" and then enter
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: what be thy name, adventurer ? "I wrote " cmar . But dont know how to proceed? Which buttons enter?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is like a normal telnet connection. In addition, I would setup an in-game alias that will reduce all the spam you can. It helps.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: so i'm pretty computer illiterate and am using mushclient 4.72 and want the aardclient instead....windows xp.....what is the best way to go about installing it?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would suggest downloading it and installing it.
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: yea hes right
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: do i open it or save it?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: after downloading it
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: save it on desktop or somewhere ez to find imo
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: read the webpage, which tells you exactly what to do: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok, just got my first Aard Weapon that I can use.... and before I go hunting, I wanna make ABSOLUTELY sure my trigger for disarm is good to go
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Good news Pyro
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: the trigger works, been using it... but my commands are
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: When you are disarmed with Aard it goes in your inventory :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: if it is disarmed, it will go to your inventory, since it is an aard weapon
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: get all wield dagger dual Flute
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Pryo, it won't be on the ground :) don't need the get all :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: oh shit, that is good to know hehe. cause even with my trigger I lose weapons every no wand then, guess moving to fast... who knows hehe
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: thanks for the info guys :)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: advanced security feature :D
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well that only applies to Aard equipment (well could apply to owned, never tested)
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: how do you change code that is running?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: you dont.... well you can change the code but it will not reflect in the application until you save it and restart with the new code
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: you can change data, but not the coding
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: can gdb change lines of code?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: I was thinking maybe there was a way to change function pointers that gcc creates live
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: not sure on that, dont know what gdb is
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: but i cant imagine how you could present the function pointer using printf
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: gdb is a linux debugger
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I dont use Linux for my OS, sorry
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: well that said
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: i wonder do they use individual code for each zone or do they use global mob codes for some stuff
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: is there an mud client for nokia?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: whats nokia?
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: its a phone brand
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: hah
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: it would be nice to use phone directions and enter buttons to attack
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: and a flee button
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: heres a nokia add http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/articles/s60_touch_games.html
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inhibiter Tech: well a add about nokiea
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: nokia is just like blackberry
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: its a brand of mobile cells
T3/r3/2011-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: one down, three more to go. I wish writing all this informational stuff wasn't so tedious.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: i accidentally resized all my mush windows to default to full screen, how do i undo that?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: figured it out, heh
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RagingFury Tech: just below the regular window resize button, there is one for the app, how convenient!
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: is there anyone here who can help a complete newbie set a 'variable target' on MUSH?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: in what context?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: what i would like is that when I type Tar in the command bar I can then define it as a particular mob a
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: for an alias?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: and then link it to spells, so cast xxx mob
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: oh is that an alias,
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: so green have no idea, but seemed good that you could set a target easily and then set up a series of spells with 'at target' and it would hit them
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok.... you need an alias... in MUSH go to alises.... for the name you will use..... Tar *.... then in the command section you put CAST %1
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: what spells do you intend to cast this way? most (all) combat spells do not have to be targeted
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: stuff like Angel Breath and a couple more, most of them are automatic
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: thank you very much going to set it up now and then cast at a mob
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: what's MUSH's escape character?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: is there a mud client for a blachberrx
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: hello
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Liraela Tech: i dont know
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: does any one know if its better to play aardwolf on a blackberry or on mxit?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: afaik, blackberry is hw, mxit is sw
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: hw? Sw?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: whats hw and sw?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: hardware software
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: sorry dude im not up to date. Whats the diffrence then?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: hardware is the physical device, software is the program that runs on it
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: i pay x amount every month for me blackberry service. Would i play aardwolf for free or would it use my data bundle?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: since aard is telnet based, it would use data
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: would it use a lot?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: not compared to streaming or music downloads
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: especially if you use mccp
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: if u would guess lets say how much data per hour...?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: mccp
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: why don't you just try and see?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: mccp?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greenwing Tech: I'd say no more than an MB at most.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: mccp
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: wats mccp
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I've been playing for about 8 hours and used 2.8 mb with mccp
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheShepard Tech: whats mccp?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: read the help file
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Type mccp to see if you have it on
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: anyone have any recommendations as far as automotive gps's go?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: tomtom
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the most part, one's as good as the next
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: esp for like remote areas like south dakota? :P
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: like I see a lot of cool features like lane switch warnings and whatnot, but wonder if they'd even have info for around here
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: main feature differences would be how to get updates to it, and whether it speaks street names or just "turn left"
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I chose a garmin GPS, because then I can get maps from openstreetmap
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, was looking at garmin because they seem to be the most feature-laden
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd stick to the 3 bigger mfgs, garmin, tomtom & magellan
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: just like, not sure that jumping a few hundred dollars for features would net me much
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: garmin & magellan have been making GPS units for outdoorsy & boating for ages
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I went with bottom-of-the-line
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: traffic updates are worthless to me in south dakota, none of that
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, tempted to do that
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some of them talk to...yeah that
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: or like the one with voice recognition, so I could say "arbys" and it would supposedly give me dirs to the nearest one?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: that's a pretty cool feature, if it works
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a garmin legend etrex hcx, and use it for everything from cycling, car, boating and walking
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every few years I try voice recognition & get annoyed at the current state ;-)
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: that was kinda tempting too :P wasn't thinking about that atm, too
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah, figures
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Good generic one, and waterproof. It's kind of old, but the newer ones from garmin are probably also good.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: voice recognition works great on my android phone :). easy 80+% success rate
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: thanks guys, did bring a couple more things to mind for me
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Urashima Keitaro Tech: l
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Greenwing Tech: 2?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: anyone know the script function in mush for opening a window where you can enter text?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: world.ActivateNotepad
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: I think
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orogan Tech: found it utils.inputbox it is
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: usually regexp
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone tried chrome OS yet?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I use it
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: How does it handle?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: does okies
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Does it live up to the hype about it google likes to spew, in other words?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I not have a problem with it yet
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm DL'ing it atm to install on a virtual machine just to give it a gander, still don't think i want to switch OS's just yet.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am running on vb myself, no problems
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: visual basic has an OS now?!
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, virtual box
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I normally run on Ubuntu.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but now ubuntu is up to 11.04, and I am lazy to setup wine.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Don't upgrade
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Unity is complete shi-...trash.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I was answering Cheezburgers question.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I don't like the 11.04 upgrade.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: No one does.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Me neither. I just removed unity via apt-get remove unity, then added a file with 'gnome-panel' in /etc/init.d/
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: why didn't they just keep it simple?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I just don't like an OS trying to tell me how my stuff has to look
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I not need eyecandy.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I agree Cheez.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: meh, some eyecandy is nice.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I don't mind cairo-dock
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I do
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: And at least it lets me pick how and where my stuff can go, unlike unity. Which pissed me off.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I have to ask this question, how many use Linux in any shape form or fashion.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I know me and cheez does
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Quite a few on aard.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Well, Unix, Linux, or BSD.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I am running on windows right now as I am lazy to set up zmud in wine.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but all else I am on linux
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: let me ask this other question, How many like Unix, Linux, BSD?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger raises his hand.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn raises his hand.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use linux at home and and at work
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I like linux and unix (and I know the difference :)
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: First thing i do on any computer i own is remove windows in favor of one of numerous linux flavors :P
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I like the control I have.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I've used *nix for 20+ years, can anyone beat that?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I'm not even 20+ years old, so no :P
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I don't think I can do that.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I been linux for 5 years now
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I found anything in windows I can do better in Linux.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: what about play portal?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And my first experience with windows was windows 1.0 sometimes in the late 80s. Not a nice experience....
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: or play diablo II
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Online games? Psh only game I play is here, I not like the shooters.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: all you can do in windows you can do better in linux? that's bull
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have one word for you: sound
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: My headphones don't work in linux, i got them working in 10.10, but the fix doesn't work in 11.04 :P
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if unix is better, the commercial world would have recognized that and organized the market to reflect this.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nah, it's just that the things I want to do I can do in linux. Like work.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Sound? Linux has beatend windows in sound, let's see WindLoss support 5.1 surround sound.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, the best technology always wins. That's why betamax won over vhs.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I prefer linux for coding/programming, it's alot easier to do alot of those kinds of things via CLI instead of the madnated (mostly) GUI of windows/mac.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like notepad++ for writing code
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Dokkar: Windows just have a tech support to back up its products for people that have no clue how to code.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Brunhilde is agreeing with that Seltsimees Dagnir person again...
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I have no problems with my 5.1 surround sound
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I like VI and nano.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: go back under the bridge, saatai
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MindTorque Tech: Neither do I, been using it on my XP for ages
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, you better update your shit.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: doesn't Creative have 7.1 now anyways? Who really depends on builtin/OS drivers anyways?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I agree, sound under linux is terrible. Always have been.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have a new external sound card. doesn't work under linux
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: well I like the price of ubuntu and open office for my six laptops
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, built-in sound sounds like crap with pulsaudio
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what did you get?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: My sound is awesoume
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Still, I'll use linux any day over windows. And I've used both plenty.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Agreed, ranrr
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ni usb4dj
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I not know what your using, but your phone is linux, and everything else is probably also.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm just found fanbois annoying. i use the best tool for the job, so i run w7 on my laptop and debian on the fileserver
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: micofuckup can not complete.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, it's hard to take you seriously after you said 'winlose'
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and that, too
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm not a fanboy, I'm a professional.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well you lose then.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: same as I am Rannrr
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: this isn't a curse channel, keep it as such.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: he wants to use windows garbage then that is he choice.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. i win because i can make decisions based on my needs
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: then you can
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: not saying you can't
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use windows when it is better at the job. About 2 times a year that happens.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: rare yes
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but you, sir, are an idiot. just for claiming that windows lacks 5.1 support
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Dagnir not saying your wrong at all.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well I'm not a Sir, ask my husband
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, that makes sense
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and yes windows sucks at 5.1 support
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how come? it's working great for me
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: then your lucky.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you're*
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you have the right equipment.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: most of the network and website interface is on ubuntu imho, but then i have to check the website look on ie
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just remember that your os isn't your church. you don't have to justify your choice by talking crap about the others
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i agree - linux is great
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but saying that it's the better than anything else just makes you sound retarded
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am not preaching about os, I just think you have to use what is best for you.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you like windows, fine, I like Linux, fine
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like both, btw
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: as long as no one likes OSX
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well Sir that is your choice
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i have 3 linux machines and 1 with windows
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but you're just plain ignorant
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: grub rules
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: think as you wisy
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: 1876
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: let him decipher that word
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hell, it's ok to use, love and tell people about linux
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: encouraged, even
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: nobody is putting you down Dagnir
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but keep the talk about what's good about linux, not how windowze, winloose, m$ or whatnot is so terrible
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because this is the point where a sane person can't take you seriously
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Look Sir you use whatever you want to use.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Windoze by mediocresloth
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if you want to beat your meat with a rubber glove, more power to you.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Brunhilde chuckles politely.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: 1999
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I am not shy to tell them.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I asked a simple question who favories Linux over windows
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's fine
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I am not attacking personal?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brunhilde Tech: I think that Dagnir's point was that Window's is a better choice for some tasks, and Linux for others, so he meant to say that the question was "moot" so to speak
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i just stated that you're troll and a fanboi
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am finding out who uses linux
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises his hand.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you make other linux users look bad
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or morons
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well Dagnir, they are great.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: she makes humans look bad o.0
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone using vyatta?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: blatant flaming doesn't make you win the argument
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and yes, the whole topic is moot
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You wacking don't make you look great also.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes I can deal with your types.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and this is Tech, so those using Linux I want to know what you using.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean people who don't take their choice of os religiously?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: debian 6
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: Saatai, l2english
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Dagnir, Powder room is that way <....
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: debian, ubuntu, arch, fedora core
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: do I have to spell it out for you?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, please
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: in proper english too =D
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes I'm russian so forgive me, Dagnir is not that smart but Ranrr spelled it out.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and openbsd of course, but that's not linux
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: orly? i'm half-russian ;)
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ranrr: debian is available in bsd flavor now ;)
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: remind me to never ask a simple question again.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nerd arguments always work out like this
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: da, komrade o.0
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: you're all wrong, get laid <3
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, my native tounge has less to do with english than yours ;)
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: 1234
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: where did you native language get involved?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I choose debian when I want something that just works, like on a server. Combining it with BSD probably won't make it better.....
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I use debian
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: personally, I prefer windows 95 because it's much more secure
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox taps his foot impatiently. What can he be waiting for?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you used your nationality to excuse your lousy linguistic skills
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: for me to jump into your bottome again Foxxy.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what does my nation has to do with how I think?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: yeah yeah, that's like the third time today some chick threatened that
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: [01 May 15:25:54] Saatai Tech: Yes I'm russian so forgive me, Dagnir is not that smart but Ranrr spelled it out.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: did I ever say english is my language?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: anyways, this is turning into a lousy tech conversation for all involved, especially me
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: we could call each other names in tells instead!
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that would be fun
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: wait I'm not t9
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I not special
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: too bad i suck at writing russian. maybe you'd understand me better :\
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you can always learn.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: true
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: right now it's about as bad as your english
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably worse tho
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think worse
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I loves you Dagnir.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: embarrassing, really
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but if you give me 4-5 beers, i'll speak it fluently
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: up to 10-11 or so
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Sir I think will take a bit longer
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: maybe 12 pack
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah, i spoke way better when i was a kid, but long time with no practice makes you forget
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i even went to a russian kindergarten
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no wonder I loves you, you speak mind.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes my german sucks now
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: does anyone actually run debian with bsd kernel? i haven't really wrapped my head around it
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlackDeath Tech: is there an alternative command to print in mush lua that still makes a trigger trigger?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: What are you trying to do? Why not make your trigger an alias and call it with execute?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: is there any client for a simple phone
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: midpssh?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: please give me the link
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: http://www.xk72.com/midpssh/
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: is there any other client?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Depends on the phone.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: give me any link of another 1
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Read what i just said, it depends on your phone
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Wouldn't kill you to ask nicely either.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: When did aardwolf change its name to Cmar's personal google?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Drakoth THWAPS Cmar for being a moron.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: There was a note about it yesterday, I think...
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Well, at least it solves the subclass problems...
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: nothing solves the subclass problems
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: there's a subclass problem?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we have subclasses, that's a problem.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yeah. The problem with subclasses is that people insist on posting about them constantly on ideas.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that couldn't possibly have had anything to do with Lasher asking for ideas...
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, I forgot about that. Seeing as it was at least a week, and probably over nine million flames, ago.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: and whos falut is that?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: it's the wrong problem to tackle right now imho, but there
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I don't see the point of subclasses that you can switch every week. Just roll everything into primary class and make everyone happy. Subclasses that are that easy to change are kind of pointless, as far as I can tell.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It was like that to start with
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: every pclass wants to be not inferior to any other pclass - and subclassers want to be different to other subclasses even if imbalance and inferiority results
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: They have thier purposes though
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: their*
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'll take your word for it. Maybe by t3 or t4 I'll have found one.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Subclasses have their purposes for different thing, i prefer them split
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps we should change what subclasses mean so that they aren't all "how can I kill things differently?"
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Why? You can change them so easily a split seems pointless.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Trust me, when you're using them for specific things, that 7 days is plenty long
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: purpose of subclasses is so that newbies are more likely to choose an inferior subclass and become roadkill to those that chose the uber pvp subclass
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Get a few more remorts/tiers/etc, you'll see soon enough
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Couldn't you just change subclasses at will?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Once you join a PK clan, subclasses have very specific uses.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: way too OP, nov
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: only flaw in that statement being he'll never join a pk clan
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: most new players never will
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a pkclan caste system, eh
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i disagree with that statement Fark
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I have no plans to join any clan. Other than the morg, I see no point to them, either.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you're entitled to, doesn't make it less true
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: They also have thier purposes.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: their*, damn typos?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: They do good things, like maps and databases, but I don't see why we need in-game clans for that. A group of people could just band together and do stuff without clanning.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: pk is a complete waste of time. Everywhere I see it implemented, it's full of players who want to jump into EVERY fight going on just because they can and it always ends up in a 1 vs many battle where the instigators generally get forgotten in the wider melee.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: But some people enjoy the social aspects, so good for them. I don't. And I don't have time to fill monthly quotas. I've got full time work, and squeeze aard in around my life.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I'm going to join Clan Armchair Avenger when I grow up! :)
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Somewhere along the line, this conversation became not-very-tech-related...
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: blame it on subclasses. :P
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: True. But seeing as nobody on the entire mud accept for me ever seemed to care about channel topics, I just gave up in order to keep my blood pressure down. I spent most of last week doing nothing about complaining about it.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: nothing but, rather
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: anyone know how to download a video in silverlight (using moonlight) for offline viewing?
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: I'd like to know, too.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Via silverlight, no.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zaryna Tech: Sad.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: if it streams, can something like download helper for firefox catch the stream and offer to save it? Never tried with silverlight, but I know it can for flash streams.
T3/r3/2011-05-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: i need to find out whos idea it was to record class lectures for later viewing via silverlight and tar and feather them
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Probably a question to search help for, but anyone know of a setting you can toggle on Mush to make it not autoclear the text field after you put in a command? Just like zMud does by default.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: no, sorr
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: good question thoug
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: id like to find that out
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: I prefer mush over zMud, but the autoclear of the command field in Mush sucks..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you know you can change that right?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: I would love to know how!
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: that was thequestion
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: if you find out how could you tell me?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: I searched in the preferences and options, didn't find a thing
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: ctrl-shift 9
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: select output
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I think you need to uncheck carriage return clears line
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nope.. not it
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Hmm, okay let me attempt that
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Oh
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: got it
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: commands
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: keep commands on prompt line
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: or something
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I have it so it doesn't erase them :)
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Ahhh sweet, I wonder how I missed that..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Thank you kind sir
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: what now?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: does something work?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: if thats not it I can look at other settings I have
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Ah its actually "auto-repeat command"
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: knew it was in that menu somewhere though
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Sweet, not I can drop zMud
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: jefftrex howd you fic the problem?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Ctrl+0
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Or go to Game-Configure-Output
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: err
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Not output, commands
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Game-Configure-Commands and put a check in "auto-repeat command"
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: thankyou jefftrex
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Don't thank me! Thank Scryn for pushing us in the right direction
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: scryn
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: it frustrated me for awhile too
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: I highly dislike zMud, the only neat "feature" is the built in MUD listing for quick switching without having to look for world.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: And the automapper I suppose
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: mushclient has a good automapper
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: good... not great...
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: its great when you have the passdoor wish.. as.. it doesn't handle doors.. at all
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jefftrex Tech: Ha
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: from t4 onwards you pretty much get passdor at start so the wish isnt needed. also with the resume command added it isnt a biggie that it doesnt do doors
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: get to a door, open manually and just resume to continue from where you are
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods.. it's not that big of an inconvenience... but it is a feature one might expect on a mapper
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: bear in mind the zmud mapper has been around for years. the mush one is not even a year old yet. give it time.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn nods at Ozu.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hey guys
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: hey hun, I'll answer if noone else will
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: is there a way to get current weight and number of carried items through gmcp?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: anyone know how to make a mush client alias for example "cast harden" that will cast harden to a target if a target is specified and if not just "cast 'harden body'"
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: kind of like the aliases here accept you cant have more then fofrty
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why don't you just cast harden directly? doesn't seem to need an alias to me..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: well cant you cast it on other people?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i got more spells that i could cast on other people that i need to know how to make that kind of alises for anyways
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: like shield
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: c shield blah?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: cast shield blah or just cast shield
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but anyway alias c whatever*, c whatever%1
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: that doesnt cast shield with no target if you dont send it a variable
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it does
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: so i would have to type cast shield self every time i wans to use cast shield without a variable
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: mush aliases will take an argument i.e. "en2 *" will "illuminate %1","solidify %1"
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: yes but if you dont enter an argument it wont just cast harden body
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: do you know how to make an aliases that will accept an argument and will be happy if there isnt an argument
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: i would use a script if i needed that
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: how do you make an aliases script?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i mean i can find that documentation but i mean how do you tell the program to use that script?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it will majehsto, did you even bother to try?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the alias passes it's arguments to a script
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: I want to try
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: but i dont know how to make a script that the program will use?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: like what file do i edit
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a) you don't need any script to do what you're asking, b) you don't need to write a plugin to script, set send to to script
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: you already lost me
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: so how do I make that alises i need
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: tech -h redry
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/mushclient.htm
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: ok make an alis "shield *" "cast shield %1" and then try just typing shield
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no space between shield and *
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: oh thanx!!!
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: is there an app to play on on an ipad?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: off hand what lua script adds an alias to mushclient
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: addalias
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in mush goto Help -> Functions List
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmar Tech: does midpssh charge?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: on mush how do i scroll in the main window?:P seems no scroll bar on the side
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's on the far right, not attached to the window
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: ahh.... mush noob:P just switched not used to it:P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: so how do you clear the mush client screen?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bah, stupid uverse. They install the uverse network thing but don't mess with the router they plug into. Now I have to fix the internet.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all of it?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, telnet's fine. I just can't always access websites.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know how i can lock layout in much? so i don't accidently move windows around?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: anyone have a useful plugin idea?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: define useful in the context of your current list?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: im a programmer by trade just need an idea ,, iwas think a automatic potion quaffer that montiors your hp mana and such
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I know, but what ideas have you already found solutions for/written?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a useful plugin idea is an automapper, but obviously that's already taken care of.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: tons but not mud plugin in related.. i wrote and design application to rate call data records and rate all calls deliver automatica sql reports along with troubleshooting drop calls etc..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Telemarketing?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: no wireless maritime services.. installing celluar service on cruise ships
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Don't you mean, Satelite services?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: satellite was handle by mtn, he used voip over that connection
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: hey daeleon any plugins you might need
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Okies I want to see a wireless tower in the middle of the ocean for wireless.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ya thats how it worked.. your pure genusis
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well the farthest you can push a wireless signal is less then 50 miles with direct line of site, so you explain it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: check out celluaratsea.com you'd get the idea
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i desing that website to
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I did, they upload to satelite.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: really? wow didnt know that please tell me more you seem to know so much
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Dude. It's easy. Just remort as a mage and cast range increase. If your int is high enough, you can increase the range up to ten thousand miles.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I know you fibbing as line of sight of earth is 33.683 miles no tower less then 100 feet.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: in short, we installed antennas around the ship using power of ethernet they go to sub hubs then transfered over fiber to main hubs then its converted int to digital format. routers then compress the hell out of it, we linked it to the mtn satellite on the boat using voip we can route the calls thru it
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you you go six miles out the system turns on
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: so you just stated you are using satelite then.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i give up you got me, i can hang with your intellect..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I might be a stupid bitch but I am not that poo stupid.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i keep forgeting everyone on this mud apparently think they are smarter then everyone else... i hate the internet
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And then everyone making cell calls gets charged like $2.75 per minute. Been there. These systems do exist. They are pure evil. Nobody notifies you of any extra charges until the bill comes.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: for transfer the date ya its satellite but technically not a satellite phone totally defferent
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: point of information
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I don't think I'm smarter than everyone else Veck. Ergo, your logic is flawed as I am someone who is not in the set of everyone.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't just *think* I'm smarter than you.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: It's still 28k miles up, with takes 258 miliseconds.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and the same down.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and for a games is unacceptable.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Your point? I've scene the systems Veck is talking about. They're satellite powered cell towers. The lag sucks. And the bill sucks even harder. And you can play aardwolf with a lag up and over 1.5 seconds, if you really want.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that is very True Fast, but He stated it was pure wireless, that's impossible.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Well, from the point of view of your cell phone, it's just a regular cell tower. And the cell tower isn't exactly connected to the satellite with a wire, you know. So it does qualify as pure wireless, sort of.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I just use a satelite phone, much cheaper.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I just spank Saatai's round bottom.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Maybe. Never used one of those. Anything has to be cheaper than $2.75CAD per minute.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: 85 cents a minute.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And a monthly rate on top of that, I assume?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: none
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Nice. That might wind up cheaper than my current cell phone. LOL.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: now you know why I say he was fibbing yes, as he has to satelite it up and down.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: so cut out the middle and your cheaper, just buy a sate phone.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: NNo, I still don't. If he satelites it up and down, it's still pure wireless. satelite is wireless, you know.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I may do that. Though I doubt they are as cheap or feature packed as an iphone, and I doubt they work in buildings.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: technicqui yes, not so though as you have to direct beam to the satelite.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is that beam a wire? No? Then it's pure wireless. I really don't get your complaint at all.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and think of a rolling ship, hard to keep that thing within 3 degrees of the satelite.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Not really.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Computer control is your friend, there.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: that will teach you to come on here and talk about your job Veck :)
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: trust I been on ships, I seen them loose signal all the time in hard seas.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: So have I. I haven't. One of us obviously doesn't know what he or she is talking about. As I'm me, I'm going to assume it's you.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're both wrong
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Naturally, they have to both be wrong, because I'm always right.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I mean, they turn stuff off when things get really rough, for safety and other reasons, but not because they can't keep the signal.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Oh I do know what I am talking about as I use the poo that Vech is talking about.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No they don't, just they can't keep up with the movers of the dish.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I have a sattelite on my Mobile home that I can watch riding down the road, bought it for 300 bucks.... somehow I imagine the owners of the cruise lines paid a little more for theirs, and I would assume it is as reliable, especially considering the lack of mountains and trees in the ocean to interfeer with it
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Also, sometimes extremely heavy clouds can cause problems, depending on what you're doing, but it isn't the waves that are the problem. It's the clouds. And IIRC the particular system we're talking about isn't that affected by cloud cover.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Pyronoia: My XM Radio that I spent about $45 on can keep the sattelite while driving, too.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: If you talking about direct tv and dish network, yes, well your going down the road, I hard suspect you bouncing 30 degrees this way and that.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: really? no potholes whre you live?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: There are potholes no matter where you live.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and it's probably buffering 30 seconds of tv to start with.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The arguments for this debate sound a whole lot like a bunch of people speculating on ideas they don't actually have expert knowledge in. I recommend wikipedia. Hours of it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Saatai: Dude. They have the dish mounted on a platform on the ship. A computerized system turns and angles the dish as needed to keep signal. A car doesn't do that, because it doesn't need to. A ship does need to, and so it can.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I am a licensed Ham opperator, and I have used these systems. I know whereof I speak.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the ship doesn't need to
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Fiendish: depends on the system and the ship. But yes, it sometimes does.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Some call me a ham operator, others call me pig farmer. Go figure.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: satellite network phones and modems don't need to use dishes
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: How many sattelites do you have? Where in the sky are they located? These things do matter.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a large iridium antenna head is about the size of a football
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: My satelite phone don't use a dish.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: except kinda cone shaped
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: The world is running out of iridium
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish spanks Spank playfully.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Your satelite phone can only make one call at a time. It needs much, much less bandwidth, and can thus make do with a signal that isn't as strong. A system on a ship can place 50 to 100 calls at once. Thus requiring more throughput.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well my aurgument was you can't have a really true wireless on the ocean without beaming signal to a fixed point in the sky, ie Satelite.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't see how, Spank. Every inch of the world is covered in the stuff.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Saatai: it's actually a network of lots of satellites
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I know Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: He thinks I a idiot, hell poo I know I am an idiot, I admit to it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: wanna bet Saati?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I don't wanna take your rubles.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Yes, exactly. There's a 50 lbs of gold in a cubic mile of seawater. Think about that. How much seawater is in a cubic mile, for chrissakes. And how much of the planets surface would you have to process to get the minute amount of iridium that's "everywhere".
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Im not rich, but I bet 500k that your wrong... and I will let Fiendish decide the truth
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Saatai, you are too nubile to be an idiot.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Thank you Spank
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: A network of satellites is not a fixed point in the sky.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Techniquilly one is.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: dumb blondes are considered nubile. I would not say too much nubility can exempt you from idiocy.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you have to beam to one, to access the others.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I am saying it is possible to have a network of communication on ship, without ANY sattelites.... period
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: too much nobility, on the other hand...
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: AND communicate with land
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: And when it is, a ship can beam the signal just fine, to withn a few degrees of accuracy, thanks to computer control. It's not like some guy has to go out and repoint the thing with every wave, you know.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: he stated from ship to shore though.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yes he does. Union rules.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yes ship to shore or vice versa, not a trick
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: without the use of sattelite
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: on ship yes you can have a wireless network, only on the ship, you can't reach out and touch anything else without satelites.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: 500k says you can
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: would bet more but its all I got :)
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Sure you can. How do you think CW works? How do you think anyone found out the titanic was in trouble?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you want to up that to 100 million?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz doubts that neither Spank nor Saatai know what "nubile" actually means
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: They watched the movie. Duh.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Oh, and SSB, too.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: How did ANYONE on a ship communicate with shore before sattelites? OMG, no communication... we are helpless....
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: oh sidebanding now, Cb legacay
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ah, Xyliz, there you're wrong. Nubile means capable of reproduction.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: a pause while they look up "nubile" in the dictionary
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that is called bouncing
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: no its called radio signals, no satttelites
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The hams invented it before the CB used it, dude. And no, it isn't called bouncing. SSB is a transmit mode, like AM or FM. bouncing is something else entirely.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ham works around the world... without sattelites help
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: it's called bouncing signals, talk to any trucker.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and it works the same way yes.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Yeah, I remember back when Michael Faraday was talking about it with Bubba...
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I AM a trucker and I know what it is.,... it bounces off the atmosphere not sattelites
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Bouncing yes
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: what do you guys need to know... the celluar antennas on the bout operate at 2.4gz... its is just an signal that is compressed and sent over the satellite
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: with alot of other thing in between..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Wow. Why don't you keep getting your knowledge from truckers, instead of someone who took three years of courses in this stuff? 'cuz I'm sure the trucker knows better. Yeah.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: there we have the answer, sent over satelite.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: satellites dont have wires
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: nah Veck, were arguing semantics now, he said there was no way to do it, and there is, all be it an inefficient one
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: oh ok i had to step out and buy some oxycodone for the even
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: There we have an answer: Nubile.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: its actually a cool system...
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am a university grad myself, your couse you took in lego's don't count.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: new grad students are the worst employees they know nothing about what they are supposed to be doing..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: "mobile" is not spelt "nubile"
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: As am I. Though not in radio, I am a licensed ham.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i have worked with grads in comp sci all of them were terrible
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's because they're only there to get certified.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well he's seems to be one of them and I graduated at age 16, I am now 24.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: best way to learn anything is yourself
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: there we go :), the ever efficient criticisms :)... yes Saati, I went to college... and wow is me, I actually fraduated too. Although there were several course I had wished were in legos
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Your english degree doesn't cut it, Saati
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: I don't give a damn if it's mobile or not. I'm interested in nubile.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: fraduation is so awesome
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I didn't know english
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Technically, I think it's 'English'
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: the differnce is i started my career at 18 i had a decade professional experince at 28..and no student loans and i still made more then college grads
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: binging on booze and books = degree.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: at the time, I had little use for english, you should of seen me 5 years ago, darn poo that was the fun.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: bingeing
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Your lucky I have learn some english now.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No, we're really, really not. Sorry Saatai; you left that one wide open.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am not fucking american or british.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: sorry to hear that
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Take it to curse Saatai
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: This is not the channel for that language.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What's wrong with being American? We're awesome. We killed Bin Laden..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Ouyay aray uckylay atthay Iay avehay earnedlay omesay igpay atinlay.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: L33tM4st3r Lashan sighs.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: nothing wrong with being american.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Heh, I hear where you're coming from Xaxz.. It's a bit too E2T2 isn't it?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Just remember you talk to people worldwide now, thanks to internet, not just English speaking countries.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Americans, Canadians, and British also know how to communicate ship to shore without using satellites, something the place you're from apparently has yet to master Saatai.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I think they have, Fastfinge.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they still use semaphore?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Morse code comes to mind, do you know morse?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: best part of american is we attract the most brillant minds from all over the world. hell nasa was started my the nazi v2 designer
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes I do, Saatai. It's a requirement for a ham license.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: who said they was a ham operator?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and technically, morse isn't wireless.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: ham radios are pretty damn cool
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: your license?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: VA3SEP
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and call sign
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, you can use American morse over wires. But that's just flat unAmerican.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You should be able to look me up. Or send mail to va3sepac.ca
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: technically, it's not wired either.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: va3sep\ac.ca
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: dididi didididi didi dah
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Why is it killing the at sign?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fast use @@w
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: try doing it twice :)
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the at sign is what aard uses for color codes
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: va3sep@rac.ca
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: thank you
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and trust I will look you up.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I am a member
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Feel free
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I have a license, but never used it
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you invited me do so yes.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: People still using ham radios?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I know a lot that still use them Mendaloth.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Time was, anybody on a MUD could be presumed nerdy enough to have one :p
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: For emergency communication, mostly. I do that, and that's mostly it. I used to use it more, but with VOIP I hardly bother these days.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: whoop! whoop! crazy diaper-wearer on approach! whoop! whoop!
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I never had to learn morse code, think it would be fun to though.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think those that still use them are pretty wonderful.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Fun is something I would not call it. Learning the electronics, protocols, physics, etc is fun. Memorizing morse is just a grind.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well you don't need morse for class 3 anymore.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: You did when I took it. At least in Canada. I understand things are different these days, though.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Not saying I am wrong, but the way I understood it, you don't need it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. More people on the bands are needed. More stupid people are not. Learning morse showed you had a certain amount of brain power and determination to slog through it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: are you saying I am stupid?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Things have changed in the last few years Saatai. I think you don't need it for some classes, and do for others. When I got my license, everyone needed it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: No. Just commenting in general. Ham does not need CBers.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I had mine since I was 15 or so, but hell I not remember what it is now.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: ITU dropped the requirement for HF in... what. 2003? The various member countries then did (or will do) their own thing whenever.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I showed you mine. If you can't show me yours, I decline to believe it exists.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Militarygt hehe
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I got my callsign in...1999 or 2000, or so. So before the requirements were changed, yeah.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Write your whine note Fastfinge, I will just send in my log to them.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Seems I know more then you just coming out of college.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and if you don't already know this, college is already 3 years behind, so welcome to the real world.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: talking to yourself again?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and not a personal attack.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: not technical either, perhaps tell is a better chanel
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No, just waking up someone, he put me on ignore as he knows he lost the war.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Can I get some help with a trigger? I tried #TRIGGER You feel almost blind at the loss of your magical sight. wake c true but it didn't work.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: First, which client are you using?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: zmud?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Can I get some help with a trigger? I tried #TRIGGER You feel almost blind at the loss of your magical sight. wake c true but it didn't work.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darsalla Tech: Sorry, vipmud
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darsalla just SMACKED himself in the forehead, what a dolt.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well Escobar I was not married at the time of your trip, Maybe you have fun night.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that was a miss yes
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know a good site where they have a good and simple mush/lua scripting tutorial?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: seems aardmush helpfiles broken:P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think there are several youtube tutorials, check the mushclient website for the links I think.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: thnx i'll check it out
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That combined with looking at other simple plugins is how I started.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: couldn't find any "simple" plugins lol:P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: that's how i started with zmud..
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know how to turn off auto recast on bast script?:P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: mush spellup script
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Do windows os cd's only allow to have 1 installation on a computer at a time? If I have a windows 7 cd / key that was on a computer that fried, will i be able to install it on another without bill gates coming for me?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Its one key per machine, not CD
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: unless you get a volume license
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yet again, Dashiell Tech: One key per license sticker, if your sticker is on a computer case, just keep the case and nobody is the wiser
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Yes, Yerviz, but that's not really what Kalsch wants to do, is it ;)
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: or if you do have to do a phone activation, tell them you had to replace your motherboard and they will activate it for you.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well the question still stands.. if my original computer got fried, will i physically be able to enter my cd key on a new computer and have it be valid?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: actually you get 5 tries at it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: should be able to
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: Kalsch I have done it before.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: a number of times.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Yes, definately. I dont think you only get 5 tries and then it locks up Saatai
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: yes, 5 times, then you have to call them on the phone and they will do it for you anyhow.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: whats to stop someone from putting a single key on like 3-4 machines then?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Evil bastards! :P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: it detects different hardware.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: "it"?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: It's the B0RG, Resistance is Futile.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: windows activation
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I mean look at how pretty Windows 7 is, how could you resist its Mac-OS-five-years-prior desktop skillz?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i had some weird idea that it was time based and if a certain amount of time went by between isntallations you would be fine
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: nope.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: go ahead and give it a try, if the activation fails, call MS and explain you had to replace some components because they failed
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: as Gonf says.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: they should give you some key to enter to continue with the activation
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Nod, this has happened so many times, it's probably in the top-5 frequent reasons list.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Linux activation is cheaper, but the requirement to be as savy as a nerd is a high price
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: so some cheapo can call them claiming their hardware failed and get it activated then even if it didn't?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: I was inmpressed with the newest knoppix
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Well you have to have a valid key. If you lose the key, you're in trouble.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: but you still only have 1 cd key
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: I suppose yes, but the main goal is to keep you from using a single machine license on more than one active machine
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: grab yourself server and then you can reset the activation three times, till you figure out your other key problems...
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Ok completely different question now. I have a dreamhost server and Im looking to run this nifty script for my wedding rsvp system. In the config file it asks for my absolute and relative path to my database. I created a database just now, but how do i actually tell what these paths are?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I would say something but I already in deep poo.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: i can see the databases in phpyadmin but not sure what the paths are rather
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Do you have the absolute path of it? Relative is easy from there.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Like /var/mysql/bin
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: absolute path is the entire path of the DB on your system.... relative path is the path of the DB in relation to the script
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why would it need both? :P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well the database isn't on my phsyical machine, i use external dreamhost servers
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Will it accept a URI as the path?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and i got as far as creating a databsase from the phpmyadmin gui, but no idea what the actual path is
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: for instance, if your script is in the path C:Programs/Script and the DB is in the DB Folder in that Scripts folder.... the relative path is /DB
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I.E. someprotocl://somedb:someport
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: that is a simplistic path btw, not a server path
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: anyone have their pmp from pmi?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: if i don't physically host my server, then it wouldn't be a local path like that right? From what I gather, my server address is mysql.mydomain.com. this takes me to the phpmyadmin page
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: would absolute path just be /mydatabase from there?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Perhaps they want the path of the files on the remote host
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's relative path
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: in the config file for this, the comment simply says //Absolute path to database directory
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: So like for instance, Apache Derby via JDBC is like: jdbc:derby://somehost:someport/some/path/to/files/here
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: absolute path would be like http://code.google.com/mysite vs /mysite
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Yeah, put in the full URI
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: mysql:// as your protocol
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: if your in myphpadmin and you open your DB, it should show your path on that page... the full path.... now if your script is not in the same path relativity will not matter
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: well the script isnt anywhere yet, im just reading through it first before blindly throwing php on my site:P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: aww come on, you know you want to throw php blindly on your site
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: is the DB populated yet?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: no, alls i did was create it
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: and the config file wants all the info so it can populate it, i do believe
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: in my opinion, and experience with the myphpadmin BS.... if I were you I would junk that DB and install your DB yourself, in the path you choose
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: like it said, it's as easy as having your script folder with script in it... and a DB folder in there with the DB....helps keep everything in one place incase you need to move it later
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: if you dont wanna do that, you could go into your file tree to find your DB, and put your script there... up to you, but I really dont like server installed scripts and databases.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: viterra grain (stock market shit) leased out all of its inventory and cataloguing jobs to india
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Apparently they found Osama's Hard Drive in the raid. I hope it isn't on Wikileaks tomorrow :/
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I wonder what kind of computer he had.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I hope it is. Wikileaks keeps governments honest.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: duuur
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ok after some playing around the start of my absolute path is /home/myUserName/myDomain If I created a new database via phpmyadmin, does anyone know what would be added to end of that path to point towards said database?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: why dont you try google its your friend
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Oh you back again?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: never left... people need to learn to read if your going to be in the tech field
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If it's a mysql database, it doesn't really have an absolute path. It has a hostname, username, password, and database name.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: use a named pipe
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I guess you and Fast don't qualify on reading part.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: been googling all night, peeps. We aren't all database / server savvy:P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I assumed this is PHP on dreamhost, Veck. They run mysql on a different server from the web server. So a pipe won't work, AFAIK.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I suggest you both get out textbooks and look at what you should be learning.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ok maybe a simplified question.. is there a general spot i can navigate to on my ftp server to see the database file?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: or is every server different
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you are on dreamhost, you can't look at your database file accept through mysql.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: why don't you two give up and go to school, a proper school.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: no im quite successful at my job.. im accomplished more in my life in my first 5 years then you have in your entire life
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Unless you are on dreamhost ps, I guess, and then you could get root and set up simlinks.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I hardly think so Veck
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Thank you for the insult, Veck. Please feel free to drop dead.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: yes im sure your super db guru
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: so Far both of you proved to me, neither of you know anything of the real world.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: sorry it annoyings me to watch people so dumb
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: im just gonna turn this channal off and save myself the headache
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: please do:P
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I'm sorry I can't help your stupid.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purity Tech: i agree veck, so why dont you leave now and do us all a favor
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: The ignore command is your friend, Kalsch
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It's his stupid, let him keep it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I've had enough, congrats Saatai, your my third person on ignore...
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Thank you
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I don't need stupidity.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purity Tech: nope, you have enough already.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tyebald Tech: any chance we can use this channel for tech stuff?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos scratches his head and says, "Ugggggh, I should know this."
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am hoping so.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Probably not. Too much geek rage goin' on here.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: geeks have hormones?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: anyone know how i can excute a function of a plugin as result of using alias in mush?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: now I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: guala
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Put it in the script box
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: did they change gnome up?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: write the alias as normal
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: and under the send to dropdown meny
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: click execute
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: k thnx
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: is it gnome 3 now?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: worked:0
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: as I am completely lost where the stuff is now.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and bye bye idiots
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purity Tech: yes bye saatai
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: college my bottome, grade school children know better.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: im gonna add you to my friends list saatai your so smart i could learn so much from you
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I not think so.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Coot lil Guala Tech: heh
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: the learning part? :)
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I done learn your below grade school, and that is not a personal attack, if you can't learn anything and the teachers just pass you onwards, that's a failure in education.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you done learn damn... thats brillant
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: you remind of bloggers with nothing to say but just want to talk anyways to feed your ego
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: 02 May 22:15 - Veck tells you 'come on lets be friend i like douches
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: haha
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: 02 May 22:16 - Veck tells you 'you make my snatch so much fresher'
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: Saatai tells you 'ok sure lets cyber you in to that?'
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: take this off tech please
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you don't think I have a problem reporting you two?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: oh no i might have to find something else to do
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: you both sadly not responsible for your own actions as children
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no I am not.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: let them learn a lesson.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica stands up and says 'No personal attacks, please. Read help harassment.'
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am not attacking either idiot.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: they are doing it to themselves.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arnica flashes his Channel Police badge and says "ACPD! Freeze!"
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: just so you know both put me on ignore.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: we don't care, please stop spamming
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Well turn off tech then. They are not getting the better of me.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: neither one is able to add 1+1 together.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purity Tech: is it worth getting banned over?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I will be banned over proving idiots?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purity Tech: if you were any smarter you would silence yourself. no, youre bothering other players and using the tech channel for the wrong reasons.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I hardly think so.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No, I am using the channel to difuse wrong info.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: They bring it, I difuse it.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: so I am using the channel to it's content.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they haven't brought anything in over 10 minutes now, so you can stop spamming please
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nothing more for you to diffuse for now
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I notice yes.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: so the channel is free again, as soon as they start again I will be on both.
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purity Tech: my hero
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: anyone know the file the automapper db is stored in
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: mush?
T3/r3/2011-05-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: or zmud or cmud?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to bring up the cmud login/pass wizard again
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it suddenly popped in and I put some crap in it and hit enter, and it closed
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: if you enter the wrong password, the server closes the connection.
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: in aardwolf client how do i turn off f1 as a help key. can't remember how
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: did you figure out how to turn F1 help off yet?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: Yerviz? did you figure it out?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: not yet
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: you using MUSHClient?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: click file, then global Preferences....
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: general tab
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: click the box for F1,F6 are macros
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: that should do it
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: there it is, thanks!
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: welcome
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Anyone know where I can get a GQ/Cp capture that also highlights the mobs on scan?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: which client?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: zmud 7.21
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i had one for it but can't remember where i got it from :)
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: .=(
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Anyone have a Zmud 7.21 GQ / CP capture script that highlights target mobs?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Does anyone know if it is possible to configure MUSH to repeat last command simply by hitting enter? And clearing input by hitting escape?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The latter, yes. There's an option under Input.
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: have you tried world properties -> input -> commands -> auto-repeat command?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: On
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Ok that
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Ok that worked
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: the escape doesn't work though, but it can be done by typing anything or hitting down
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: nod, trying to make a switch from ZMUD to MUSH, two things that have been bothering me
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Can I important specific aliases/triggers from zmud 7.21 to mush?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: probably not, they are done very differently
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: anyone here
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: hello channel
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have a question, just go ahead and ask it :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: na, just sayinghi
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: anyone running xen or a VM
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You try to defend Fisban's rights. Are you in the same cell?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I run a few
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: cool, Im just sitting pretty till I recompile the kernel
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: had a crash memory swap related, what you running in the VMs if you dont mind the asking
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: little of everything...have vmware ESXi hypervisor on a few boxes, with gues OSes of Win2k, Win2003, Win2008, NetBSD, have Xen-hosted NetBSD
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: nice, I was thinking that my one xen server now would host a feew diffrent application for telecom and for graphics
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless the applications have overlapping ports, it's less overhead to consolidate than it is to virtualize
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: graphic wise I wanted a use of a VNC with VirtualGL
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: well, the telicom is bluebox, and it seems more of a hastle to install it on hte dom0
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: I suppose its posable, to do that, but really its just a switch anyway, it needent be used unless a cal is made or coming in,
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: though for testing vm linux domU is great if I want to go to embeded later
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: I dont really know where to start with the real meat the video server, or rather the DRAFTING AND DESIGN SERVER
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: I was wanting tthe drafting software I buy in one to 4 domUs
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Escapade Tech: how come my screen in mushclient is an inmmovable window on my main screen+
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: how to keep all as a defined log-purposeful
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: grrrrrrr
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: mmm theres this website i ussually go to and now when i enter its web address it redirects me to a different address that has nothing to do with the one i entered...its like the new one has two addresses or something. Why?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps somebody bought out or sold the site
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: redirect, xss attack, who knows?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: mmm do you think it will blow off?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: perhaps the site lapsed, no longer exists, and the website search is supplying a plausible alternative -- is the name similar or different
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: well the content they offer is similiar but whats weird is that theyre from different countries..let alone continents
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what is amusing is that some upstart company or companies decided to become an official domainname registrar(s) and charge monies for the service(s)
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Vampfox, are you located in China or some country where the government interferes with internet traffic, or is the attempted target in those interfering countries
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Vampfox was last on: Fri Mar 4 18:20:58 2011: 59 days, 19 hours and 55 minutes ago. <-- takes while for the finger to catchup
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Does anyone have the plugin to convert Mush Syntax to zMUD syntax?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nope :(
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Why? You should be going the other way :)
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Huh, I meant a plugin for Mush to convert zmud syntax sorry =)
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Anyone have a GQ / CP Capture script that also highlights the mob in scan for ZMUD 7.21 that they can share?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: how do you get the mapper back on, after a runtime error?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: without restarting, is it possible?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: reinstall it
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: tried reloading the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: plugins -> reinstall
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what runtime error?
T3/r3/2011-05-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griffi Tech: my birth was a runtime error
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: I'm new to CMUD is there anyone out there willing to spend a few mins helping me with a script
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: I'm new to CMUD is there anyone out there willing to spend a few mins helping me with a script
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: in ZMUD there used to be a wildcard for a start of a new line for a trigger, I can't find on in CMUD's help files, any help would be hot
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ^
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: zmud/cmud uses a syntax similar to regex though not as rigid. If you have cmud look under Expressions same as zmud.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: this also should help you for your trigger syntax: http://forums.zuggsoft.com/modules/mx_kb/kb.php?mode=doc&page=3&refpage=3&a=cmud_pattern_match
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: how do you add in mush a custom exit that is more than one command?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with the separator char ;, but you have to double it up like ;;
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: thanks very much..
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: btw, the mapper is awesome!
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish gallantly tips her hat.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Anyone able to assist me in making a trigger to announce in group when/who superhero louds?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: which client Warlen?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: mush
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just a sec....
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: which part are you having difficulties with?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Nvm got it
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: oh, okay
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyone know if there's a mushclient function to append some text to the end of your command input?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "getcommand" to get the current command, then add what you want to it and then "pastecommand" it back
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: I'm trying to have cmud beep on a trigger and it's not working any advise? It's reading it as a regular mud command
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the command is #BEEP
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: as for further help, what have you attempted so far?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: using that command and I get the response, Sorry Shinigami, I don't understand you...it is part of an %if statement
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: an %if() function is not a trigger...
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: triggers on the quest message, argument is if(quit=0,quit,#BEEP)
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: sorry, the first is a variable, didn't come accross right
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ah, then you are simply using a function at the beginning of the line.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you cannot do that anymore in CMud.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: check out the #IF command
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: sorry for all the questions, but I'm trying to get back into the swing of this
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: it's not compiling now
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: what are you trying to compile?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: `#IF (@qquit=1) {quit} {#BEEP)}
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: uh. what client?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: cmud
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: o. I'm useless to you then--sorry. use something cool like tintin. :p
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: 3.34 if it matters
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: it might also be worth noting that your parens are balanced, and you might need == instead of =. not sure though.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: aren't, rather. you have a ) at the end. try removing the ) after beep. I don't see an opening paren that would make that something you need. also, if #beep is supposed to execute after quit, you might need a semi there unless that's your else clause.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: that is my else, the variable is to keep me online until I can quest and then quit out, otherwise it beeps when I can quest....removed the extraneous parenthases and it's still not compiling
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I'm shooting in the dark here, since I don't know cmud. #if (quit==1) {quit} #else{#beep}? I don't know if it uses = in if or ==, etc.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no #else. Just #if (condition) {true code} {false code}
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: ah. ok. I thought that could be an issue. figured I'd try to help.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: = and == are also identical in CMud
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: zany, can see you to reply, but thanks for the offer, just fixed it
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: finally installed w7 sp1
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so far so good
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Linux (Ubuntu 11.04): how do i check how much memory my graphics board has?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: anyone know where the mapper.find function is stored for the mushclient mapper?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in the mapper plugin, i would assume...
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you would think, but it seems to be external somew3here
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: it imports something called "aardmapper" and I can't find it anywhere
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: then references it with mapper.find
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: look in the lua folder for aardmapper.lua
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: that was it
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so, what would the advantage of storing that externally be?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: probably a common function used for db calls
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: they're generic mapper functions
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn nods at Ozu.
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but why couldn't you just put it in the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: probably future proofing in case a different plugin needs to use the db at a later stage
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: since a file is merely a number, would it be possible to compress any file size into a series of minimalistic algorithmic functions?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: only fiendish or gammon could answer that with 100% certainty though
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: how fast your computer may perform arithmetic how fast your file may appear
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: any derivatives of my general idea are patented by my unspecified documentation
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: no answer huh, if i built such a thing i wouldn't get nothing from it
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: it seems most compression algorithms around seek patterns and offsets, just saying
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: python for instance can transcend 128 bit word sizes and calculate infinite numbers given enough computing space, one tool of many that can be used
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: offset the prime, calculate the divisible
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: is that rubbish or computer science?
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: .Faust Necroshine reads his tar header
T3/r3/2011-05-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Any mush client techies available to help me with writing a script?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siegfoult Tech: anyone know if there is a way to use bigmap on putty?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siegfoult Tech: always crashes when i try
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you probably need MCCP
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: probably have to adjust your column/character widths and extend the amount of output displayable at once
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: since mccp isn't required for bigmap
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siegfoult Tech: unfortunatly i am stuck with putty or telnet... playing from work lol
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why would you use putty, anyway?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: yeah, i have to telnet from work too, through terminal on a mac :/
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bigmap is kind of a lot of data. it probably overflows a simple buffer in basic telnet
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can anyone point me towards a plugin/script www?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TaffyKing Tech: finger bast he's got a link on there
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: can we set mapper to open closed doors?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: is that just considered a custom exit?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: cexit
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: do I have to do the "mapper cexit open door" and ten move to next room after the command is given? or do I need to include the direction to move into the cexit command somehow?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you have to move
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sorry, I was busy, so my answer was curt. Yes, a custom exit that opens the door and then goes through it should work nicely.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (you have to include the movement in the cexit command that is)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: can you give me an example of having two commands in the cexit command? will it let me use a semicolon without parsing it?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes, I use a semicolon
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: The result it comes back with has alwayys been a bit obscure to me, though.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: hehe, are you saying it doesn't work well?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Oh no, it works superbly.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: you mean the 2 second thing?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone using vyatta here?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: If I was I hope I wouldn't still be seeing Aardwolf telnet traffic on my network :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i need some help
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: how do i,hook up with port fowarding in Modem router model TP link wireless
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: reina what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: http://portforward.com/ has guides for many routers
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: check if it has your model
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i wanna do port forwarding in my router,but i dunno how to
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yeah check that site... it is dependant on your router
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i dun see any guideline
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: With Bast's plugins, do I need the LUA folder in the plugins folder, or merged with the main LUA folder?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Does anyone have a gain reporter plugin for mush they can have?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: bast's suite has one :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: what is it called ? I downloaded his plugin pack
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: didn't se it
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm, try typing statmn rep 60 anything happen?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: I didn't install statmon, is that the plugin that reports minutes/lvl and exp/hour?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I have so many so not sure exactly what it is called, but on my version that is how you view that.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: the statmon I have is a window with health,mana etc bars
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: I dont need another healthbar since aardmush client comes with it
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: no, Bast's has a StatDM StatMonitor thing
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: that is what mendaloth is talking about
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah, although I am not sure if you need to install the window for it to work. I have the window installed just now shown by default. Poke around on his website, his wiki page will show the plugin, and any dependencies.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: Is there a better way to save my AardDB than closing / reopening the client. I've noticed even if I hit save in MUSH and then the client crashes I lose some DB data.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you talking about the mapper db?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: Yes
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it has a backup function in newer versions of the client
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but NEVER try to manipulate the file outside of mush if you have mush open, it's a good way to corrupt it
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: Time to upgrade!
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: thanks Myrkul
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Is there a way to make the background.. NOT black?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: sure
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: how do I reset my gmcp mapper? its annoying trying to explore an area with old information in my mapper, Sendhia in my case
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: mapper help =D
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: i manually deleted the old exits etc.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Henriken Tech: ah good point
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Androg Tech: so my mush got reset without saving and now my main window is no longer movable/resizeable/etc. Anyone have an ideas on how to fix that?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what's the best client for android?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: anyone use an android-based phone to mud?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm trying to get jaws to work in mushclient... any help on what needs to be done?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: hmmm ideas channel
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: s
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: t
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: sorry, how do I do a speedwalk with an open door command in it? I did one, and it opened the door, but I tried to run through it immediately, before it actually opened, and it messed up the speedwalk.... is there a way to enter a small pause??
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm not having much luck with msuh mapper and doors
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: either
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: They work perfectly for me
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mine keeps walking me into doors
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mine too, so I need to teach it about doors.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: But after that it just works.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i find if i jsut open the door and walk it.. without teaching.. that's when i'm stuck.. it doesn't want to know about the door if it already has a direction
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: ok Cizra, so how do I actually teach mapper how to use doors? I tried "mapper cexit open nn" and when I run it it opens the door, but it does not use that extra north to go thru it, so it is one north short of the correct speedwalk
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc you double the semicolon
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which should be mentioned in the mapper help
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: woot thathelped
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle, if it's trying to just go the direction without opening the door after you've given it a custom exit like that, you probably are running an older version of mushclient before cexits were given priority (or rather, newer exits are given priority)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: can someone help me please? I want to make a variable called target, so I can send different attacks by just typing fb target, but not sure how to do it
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to use a target for attacks, just do the attack itself without a target
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: where i set the target and then when I attack using different spells all I have to do is type fb, or cc
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: just make an alias for fb
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: so if I want ot cast a fireball at a donkey just type fb *?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: thats all
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: much easier than cmud then :)thanks a lot
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: once you're in combat, just type fb...it'll do it to whomever you're fighting
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for spell aliases, I find the in-game alias to be most convenient
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: If you are initiating the combat though, you will have to specify the target.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: thanks so much, but once i have initiated the fight any subsequent different spell attacks will all be aimed at the one I am fighting with, that is great
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but if you're initiating, you won't have the variable yet
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: if you set the alias up in mushclient you can make it fb *
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you just type "alias fb c fireball", in-aard aliases will take care of both typing "fb" and typing "fb donkey"
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: then the command would be cast 'fireball' %1
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you set up the alias in mushclient as "fb *", then "fb" won't do anything
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because "fb" doesn't match the pattern "fb *"
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: sorry I meant just to intiate combat... I macro all my attacks to my F keys... sorry
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Indira Tech: thanks Abelinc I understand, going to Oz to try out some things :)thank you
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: is there a command in cmud to force the window to close after quitting?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tehre is in mush :(
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: anyone know the function i would use in a trigger to split %1 into array of strings
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: in what language? :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: or can point to to mushclient scripting language
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: i need to use it inside a trigger or maybe a regular express that can match say 3 words and then split them into seprate variables or a array of strings or something
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: Okay seems Q&A was a bust .. when i tried to make an Alias to Group Create it gave me this: "Mismatched quotes in alias. Cannot process." .. Why? Have can i fix/bypass this?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: how*
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you don't have even quotes
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirRaven Tech: what does that mean?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tech if you are capturing text make sure there are no quotes in teh text.. if there is.. escape it
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: all quotes must be in pairs
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belladrix Tech: Was wondering if anyone could help me with some of the colorset options for MUSH. I was hoping to change the color of a couple things.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belladrix Tech: I was wanting to change the color of notifications when someone enters or exits a room you are in, and I wanted to change the color of npc emotes.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belladrix Tech: But I don't know which of the lines in the colorset pertain to those two things.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: FYI, colorset is a mud command/config, not Mushclient
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: colorset mobsay will change the color of what mob's say.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belladrix Tech: Interesting, 'mobsay' isn't listed on colorset status.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in mush how do i override keys liek Control + 1
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: AddAccelerator()
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thanks!
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belladrix Tech: Is there a more specific list for colorset available as the one in the game doesn't list all? I've been looking around.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: does anyone know what the sector bitmap is for the aylorcity sector (ie, recall)?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: very new to mush... so excuse the very newbie-ish question. but when I make a multiple command alias, separated by semicolons, it's trying to treat it as one command. why is that?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: check world properties/commands and see if command stacking is enabled
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yerviz Tech: under file menu
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: it says stack using semicolon and the checkbox is checked
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Do you mean, in the "Send" box, you're using semicolons?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: when I manually stack commands it works but not in my alias.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: yes
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: do it per line in the alias
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: oooh
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Use enter between cmds...
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme nods at GentooX.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: sorry guys, am really new to mush so.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: No problem, common confusion there, actually
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: weve been there at one point :) its part of the learning process
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: that works. thanks again. :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Belladrix Tech: is there a full list of things I can change with colorset somewhere? apparently not everything is listed under colorset status
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why, in windoes 7, does nothing run worth a damn when run in compatibility mode?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: define "worth a damn". If you mean it runs rather slowly, it's because of how Windows handles screenwriting now.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How does it handle screenwriting?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Poorly, I'd guess.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: older-than-Vista versions would write directly to the screen. Vista and beyond maintain a buffer so that the new Aero stuff (all the cool new effects seen in WinVista/Win7) can be made to happen.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: essentially, it's writing the screen twice--once to make the change and once to show the final result to the user.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no, actually 3 times, it's buffering twice, but due to graphics cards, it's a bit difference each system.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and windows 7 dma sucks poo.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if microsoft changed how Windows does screenwriting, an extra few write to a ram buffer is not supposed to cause lag (unless wait-states were added)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Give Xyliz the prize bear.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: umm, using more memory means it still takes longer to process.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless windows is writing to the ports-array buffer in the graphics card
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I can't see where they need to do 3 times?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: likely intentional by microsoft to force users to upgrade to faster hardware
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: me neither. I was told two times, myself. Perhaps it's maintaining a version that's un-Aero-fied?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think you are correct Dokkar.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: double buffering is common in C, but maybe the third is for non aero stuff.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I never really looked into that aspect no.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so the C program is double-buffering, then the Windows OS is double-buffering, and maybe the graphics drivers are double-buffering ?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that is possible yes.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can I disable the 'cool effects' in windows 7?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes Starling.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Cool
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm hopefully getting a new laptop soonish, I always disable useless visual effects
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and you will notice a speed increase, just don't ask me where to do such.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: control panel -> programs and features -> turn windows features on or off
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I mostly don't ever use windows anymore.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is amazed that zmud 5.55 still runs on windows 7.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am amazed it does.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why wouldn't it? :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm more amazed that anyone's even bothering to use it.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: At work, and cmud isn't portable, and I'm not allowed to install it on this machine
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: 5.55 was in windows 95 version, broke in xp.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hopefully zugg'll release cmud lite sometime soon...
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 5.55 ran just fine in xp for me, shrug
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how do i turn off the windows98se keeping records of program activity in c:\Windows\APPLOG -- as the files recording mudclient activity become larger, the mudclient slows down (until the APPLOG is erased, when the mudclient is back to fast)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He won't
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no plans for cmud lite anymore
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Zugg is an idiot and doesn't give a rat's ass about his product
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Honestly, I would switch to MUSH tonight if I knew how to script/code for it. But I don't.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I gave up on Cmud.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: dokkar, cmud lite is done :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, you wouldn't. You just like bitching too much.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's all coded, he just won't release it
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sure I would, Dokkar. From what I hear, MUSH is a great client.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I mean, if you were seriously going to leave, you would either take the time to learn how to code in its major language or you'd just leave and do it like the luddite noncoders do.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Now that Mush has a mapper, Zugg really don't have any competition anymore so I can see a lot going to move over.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't even know what its major language is, shrug.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: There's no particular need to learn Lua if you prefer one of the other supported languages.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that...didn't make any sense, Saatai.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud's mapper is still way more advanced
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: and more complicated :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Zmud and Cmud was the only two with build in mappers, now that Mush has one, yes I can see others going to it.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, those kinda go hand in hand, scryn :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: not always
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, they're basically equal right now. Mush's is just pretty much all CLI-driven while CMud's is more like a drawing program.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: saatai, so can i if the person only wants to use the mapper as a map
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mush's mapper just displays maps, cmud's is fully scriptable
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am no expert on that.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: mush's is very scriptable as well
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Saatai, how does "Now that Mush has a mapper, Zugg really don't have any competition anymore" remove competion from Zugg -- seems that a Mushclient mapper IS serious competition
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: everyone THINKS the cmud mapper is complicated, but it's actually really simplistic.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: You knew what I meant Xy.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: If it takes more than 15 minutes to start building a map.. it's not clear enough when it's purpose is to build maps
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: mush's was very easy to get going... cmud.. not so much
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: with gmcp now, it took me under 30 seconds to start mapping
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but that's because mush's mapper is written specifically for aardwolf
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: even without GMCP it doesn't take more than 2 minutes.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: that's because this game supports Gmcp.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you install that plugin and try to use it on any other mud, it probably won't work
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Myrkul: That is sort of true.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud's will work on most muds, and that's why it requires more configuration
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I got the config set up .. and it still screwed up on a bunch of rooms
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient's Mapper is design with help from the MUD itself. z/cMUD is done by the client.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: then it wasn't clear how to access the information.. the learning curve was just significantly higher
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if i export my mapper's configuration settings, send them to someone else, and they import it, they can start mapping on cmud just as fast as they could on mush
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: probably true myrk...
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ...you just hit a button and it's all there in a window ready for you to look at, Scryn.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: since this is the only mud I play... and mushclient is free.. and it works... no reason to use another :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: My point of view, Lasher supported Mush by adding in code to help it, so Mush is probably the best to play this game on, I can use Zmud and Cmud to play the game, but I am lazy, So I am not inclined to set anything up.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but lasher didn't include anything that can only be used by mush
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: just so you know.. I used to write software for a living.. I could have figured it out... there was just a more supported, simpler, and therefore in my mind better choice.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: if you play here.. I don't know why you wouldn't use Mush.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: all the tags, telopts, gmcp, etc. are available to all clients
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: ok answer me me this, show me another game to support gmcp?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: the mushclient mapper needs some work.. it's not perfect
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: scryn, because i'm lazy and don't want to learn how to code in mush :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I can think of one game company that offers 4 separate games that support it.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lots of muds do, saatai
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: this game company was actually the spearhead for the protocol that eventually became GMCP.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I know the answer to the question.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if mushclient were to add a syntax-option that permitted players to use Zmud syntax, mushclient scripts be simpler to program (y/n)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: not simpler.. just different
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Xy I don't do scripts so I don't know.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thats like saying if Java supported C syntax.. C programmers would like it.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: it's simple to modulate code interpretators into a client with a native language existing
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: well.. of course they would.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd say no, xyliz
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: mushclient syntax seems oververbose
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I can script in zscript just fine.... can't do jack in lua or anything else. I don't relish the idea of rewriting everything I've done in a completely different language.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I might be able to do it, but I don't relish the thought.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: you can preoptimize it with perl mechanics to absence the system calls
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i can code in lua and other languages, i'm not not switching cause i only know zscript
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just the whole plugin thing confuses me :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I can do lots in C, Zmud script, Cmud script I screwed.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: but is the game programming or playing the program with others
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: the plugin thing is awesome when you get the hang of it :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you ever messed with the zmud version, it's vaguely like that.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am running zmud.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: zmud and cmud seem extremely similar to me
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: cmud is zmud
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: later version
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cmud uses zscript, zmud's scripting language, it just works the way it's supposed to in cmud :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well you men work it out, I am just here to chat mostly.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it sounds funny, but it never worked properly in zmud :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: they are. CMud is essentially ZMud with an obscenely-long list of version-history fixes that unkludge pretty much anything ZMud was doing.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I think Zugg fucked up bring in Cmud with Zmud running, he should of just continued upgrading Zmud.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: all the stuff he could have done with zmud but maintaining wasn't making him money :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: If he did that, there would not BE a CMud.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: My opinion, Cmud is a piece of crap.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we'd still be waiting for stuff to get fixed because somehow it broke or he was still bogged down in a major feature rewrite project.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's just as solid as Mush is.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Hrmn, don't that sound familiar with raiding board?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and when will all the classes be done, yes you can wear out a lone programmer.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it will be done when Mush gets done.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I praise Lasher, he's done wonderful.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: 'done' means something different to a programmer. It simply defines a point wherein Feature X can be deferred for another period of Time Y so one can switch to something else.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Dokkar A program is never done, have you not learned that yet?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: so sayeth the witty quip I just made...
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: sorry, it just came up.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: it can be perfect, but there's always the nagging question, what if.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, the question is "what else?"
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: true yes
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if implies the notion that there's possibly nothing more to add.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: there is always more.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: just depends on how define it.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the agilist vs the traditional programmer
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: well I think I am the traditional type yes.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: how much does the mush group monitor plugin lag in large groups?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: large being 30+?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I can't answer that question.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: probably relative, since you're dealing with quite simply more information.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just wondering if it's even worth using on raids, epic area runs, etc
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Myrkul I not know.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: when you think you are done because there is no more to add think again... there is so many things to do even without adding functionality to your program, like refactoring/optimization.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes Gentoox you can do a lot to cut cycles out.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and figuring out new/better ways to do things that didn't come up before.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: And comments are nice.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: errr comments... i don't want to comment on that. *grins
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Sometimes the thought processs of commenting, triggers ideas for better or more efficient code.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: has in mine Arnica
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and somethings an indication that your idea is bad and code is inefficient. :D
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: okies afk for little bit. Love you all and love this dicussion.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: How do you print out multiple variables in the one line with note() in MushClient? Example, I want to print out "Tracker Count 1 of 2" where 1 and 2 are two different variables
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: You can look at string.format, which is similar to printf in C, or use concatenation, ie Note("String " .. var1 .. " String " .. var2)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nausicaa Tech: Cheers Daesilme! Thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so, if you were making a health gauge script, what colors do you think would be appropriate for the gauge to turn as hp gets lower?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: fade to red
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: or black
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, i'm thinking bright green at 100%, red at 0%...
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's the between colors that are trickier :P
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarquil Tech: yellow catches the eye better.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Presumably you'd do green at 100%, yellow at 50%, and red at 0%
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That's the standard-ish thing to do.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: there's sequences of bright to dark out there to us
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: at zero percent there is no bar.... yellow atl
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I mean that it would fade towards red as you go towards 0%, Pyro
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: yellow at 50, red at 30
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyronoia Tech: I see what ya mean Jhav
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Where does ubunut 11.04, gnome, store it's default icons? Ie, gedit icon?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gnistar scrunches up his face cuz he is totally baffled!
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: s/ubunut/ubuntu
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: gentoo? meh. BSD is the way to be!
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: s/gentoo/ubuntu... gentoo is the way to be too.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Meh, i prefer arch for ground-up builds
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: yeah, arch is nice too.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: /usr/share/pixmaps, btw
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: jesus. t6...
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: ?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: I don't think I'm going to hold out to a remort and there are people that are teering.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Lol, there's alot of people with alot more levels than myself.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the gentoo developers are in turmoil atm...
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: About?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lots of things.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: management issue
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: and its affecting its development
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: uh. I doubt that. I know a couple of gentoo devs and they're still rolling out the patches.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which one are you doubting? the turmoil or the development?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TheCreator Tech: the termoil you speak of.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its been that way since the chief architect and creator of gentoo left.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: development maybe strong... and gentoo is not dying... im just saying. its not what it used to be
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: hi
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: hi
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: People tend not to answer "hi", Grexo, but they're listening.
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Just go ahead and ask your question :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: whos on the tech channel? operators? :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: I am :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: Everyone
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: That is, whichever players want to be
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: so anyone know about routers?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: looking at the new Linksys routers
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: internet, doh
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: Any of you familiar with dd-wrt?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: dunno so much aboutthe linksys ones. prefer d-link for home use myself
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: See I keep waiting for Verizon FIOS
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: so whos the teck wiz here?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i like the new linksys better than the new dlinks
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: cisco is nice :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: indeed, although if you can afford a cisco for home use then you can probably afford to get a pro to come set it up for you heh
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: no i mean linksys made by cisco
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: says cisco on the new linksys routers
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: setting up a router isnt too hard especially with the internet these days
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: cisco was a big thing back in the days
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yawn
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: whos in college mudding in the evening? :)
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does mudding in the everything count?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: everything?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: timewise
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: and failing school? :O
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Online study ftw!
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Actual human interaction ftw
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: Anyone use comodo firewall?
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: got updated to the new version, working great now on this machine
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: yessir i do
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: on my other machine it had a SD card bug
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: although the latest free version no longer seems to include a firewall
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: pop in sd card into the media reader, it BSOD's
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: reported the bug, i dont think it was fixed in the new release but i didnt test it yet
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yes it does
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: the CIS package has a firewall free, and i just got updated to the latest version
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i just ran the firewall software, its still there
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: was using irc before this
T3/r3/2011-05-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: got sick of the crowd :)
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: can anyone recommend some good sites with articles on PC hardware, with a server/embedded/industrial focus, not gaming?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Start with cnet?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I'll check that out, thanks.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Does anyone use Mush and know how I can make an alias with my current level as a variable?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Im trying to make an alias to check +-15 levels of me for people to group
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You'll need to capture your level somehow
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: From "score" or levelling messages or something.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: The aardstatmon on mush client plugin has my level there
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Is tehre a way to pull that level for my current level?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah.. Read the code of the script
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I mean, it's certainly possible somehow, possibly by modifying the script or something. Dunno how exactly, though.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: trying to capture gmcp comm.repop { "zone": "xxxx" } so I can trigger an echo Repop!, any hints?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what is meant by post #12 in board tech?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: there is no post 12?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you mean 5408?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: sorry where did i even get that 12... yes i meant 5408 sir dagnir
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: COMRADE dagnir
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX curtseys gracefully to Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: so what is meant by post 5408?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe aard website
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it has .com and .org domains afaik
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so i guess someone finds that suspicious
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh. i see. thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Is there any way to convince aardwolf that it wants to send telnetga at the end of prompts?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: anyone familiar with Drupal or PHPTemplate engine ?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes. What do you need?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: how to comment out the lines in tpl.php files? :)))
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I mean, fully comment from appearing in html
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: With PHP comments.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: outside a php block ? or inside ?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: /* */ outputs it straightforward
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I need to comment htmlcode so that engine won't parce it :(
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: open php, comment it all out, and close php.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: eh, ok, thanks :(
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well while we are on the subject - any know a good CMS that is very very basic. Basicaly want to have a template, and give the end user a simple way to edit things within the main body of the page....
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Most of the drupal type things I've seen seem like overkill
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've heard that of drupal myself
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yup. If you're not in the publishing business, drupal is overkill. I should know, I'm a drupal freelancer.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could go wordpress
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: I guess you're looking for a wordpress, but i'd suggest drupal
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: joomla
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I'd suggest dokuwiki, honestly. No database, all flatfiles, anyone can edit. I mean, what exactly are you looking for? Small means how small?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've tried wordpress - but seems designed mainly for blogs.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what's that one that you just publish it modularly via git
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: joomla can be made simple
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: dokuwiki even lets you edit the flatfiles directly, with whatever tool you want.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: If you're under 5 people, working on a personal or hobby website, like a clansite or something, dokuwiki is enough.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah would only be one person editing really.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Then go for a dokuwiki, turn off knew accounts, and you're set. Edit via the dokuwiki interface, or edit the text files with whatever ftp/editor/tool you want.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smiling, Fastfinge greets Eyesofsorrow warmly.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: mischan
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Does anyone else wish aardwolf could update twitter when you level or completed a goal?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: yes, absolutely!!!
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: not really
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: cmud probably can.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: definitely not
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: you'd have to be somewhat mental to want that
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Than I'm somewhat mental. I do want that.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient can
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but why?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: No I do not, and I am sure it can.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: How Fiendish? I think you need oAuth to update twitter these days, and I don't think lua can do ssl.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can add luasec http://www.inf.puc-rio.br/~brunoos/luasec/
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if i'm after the gmcp quest data.. how should i refer to the data to test i've got it right
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm calling :
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval","comm.quest")
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and then an assert and then gmcpval("action")
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: would i pull down "comm" and then gmcpval("quest.action")
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or do i pull down "comm.quest" and then gmcpval("action")
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Does anybody know how to capture the < and > characters in a lua script for mush?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: ie. if I want to make a trigger that would capture numbers or < >, what do I write between the square brakets?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: [0-9<>] doesn't work, [0-9\>
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: [0-9<>] doesn't work, [0-9\>\<] doesn't work, [0-9\<\>] doesn't work
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: regex?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe use passive groups?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: care to explain?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (?:?-9?) or something like that
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (?:[0-9]>?) or something like that
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably wont work, but you get the idea
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: are you sure that [0-9<>] and [0-9\<\>] doesn't work? looks like it should be okay.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: looks like it, yes
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i never used groups like that. i'm not even sure if you have to escape <>
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your problem is likely NOT with that [0-9<>] group but somewhere else
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: give an example string
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: there's no need to escape <> cause they are not special chars in regexps.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: <\__Something Does Not Work__/>
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thought so
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I thought you said you want numbers
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Mmmm true, <1321312>
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daddy Spoke P
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: damn, you made me find the error anyway
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: <\d+>
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Fiendish r smArrrt
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, [<]\d+[>]
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: <\d+> should capture it
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Aye, I got it now
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like to use literal matches. zmud hacks :P
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i never understood the difference between 0 and \w
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: aaargh
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have to KEEP parsing off
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: <[0-9]+> works just fine for me
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i never understood the difference between [a-zA-Z] and \w
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nor [0-9] and \d
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: All the world is not 7-bit ASCII.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teapie Tech: \w includes more than a-zA-Z i think
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Dagnir, a-zA-Z will not always work
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Fiendish, how can I find all the special characters (the ones that I have to escape) in those type of sequences?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: viktor.juhe.ee/regex.pdf
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php?general=regexp
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. that cheat sheet of mine lists <> as metachars :\
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: Nowadays items may have any symbol on their name, correct?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: or are we still restricted to regular ascii chars?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: we are restricted to the regular ascii characters, extended ascii is dependant on the font used so you might not see what was intended.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: so all item names are still on the 1-128 ascii range
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yep
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, probably not the unprintables like tab or carriage return, but you probably are already accounting for that.
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daddy Spoke Tech: yeah 32-128
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dented Domain Tech: any thoughts on this laptop Lenovo - IdeaPad Laptop / AMD Phenom II Processor / 15.6" Display / 3GB Memory / 320GB Hard Drive - Black for 399
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: Thinkpad Edge FWIW
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: ont do the ideapad, bad support
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: go with the Edge
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i gotta get a new laptop too, but im waiting for ivy bridge
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: ideapad is lenovo china, thinkpad is former ibm support
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: 2 different networks for repair and support, thinkpad models are superior
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: do what you wish :)
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: its $399 for a reason
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: on that note i need a notebook (eventually) and a linksys cisco router
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dented Domain Tech: not like i'm using it for high end stuff, just for personal use, word, excel, surfing, mudding
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dented Domain Tech: i'll keep looking though, thanks for your opinion :)
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: http://www.notebookreview.com
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: enjoy
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyone know about vyatta?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: No, what is it?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: Vyatta manufactures an open source router/firewall/VPN product for Internet Protocol networks,The system is a specialized Debian-based Linux distribution
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: k
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: any expert for it?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: for what?
T3/r3/2011-05-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: anyone got a good book/resource/syllabus for teaching agile software development in a classroom environment?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: anyone know a command I can use in a script to completely close cmud?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: alt-f4
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinigami Tech: yeah I can do that, but one I can use in a script
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: How do I fully clear a mapper area in mushclient? I've done 'purgezone' for the old area name but the map's still there. Tried it for the new name but it doesn't find it.
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: how do I send a request for "char.vitals" specifically through gmcp? (from mushclient)
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Should be able to just get it from the GMCP handler.
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: request char i think
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: request char gives you the whole set, just want char.vitals
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: What's wrong with getting whole set ?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: pointless spam?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat goes, "Heh."
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: are you actually printing out gmcp stuff?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: is there a way to just refresh a plugin from the client?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: char.vitals should be sent every time there's a change anyway
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: nah, but there is a minute if unperceptible lag as well as a minor feeling of guilt
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: I am running something else through the "char" channel, so I am looking to refresh char using the least spam possible
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you need to refresh it?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: least spam = not requesting char at all
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: updates a counter
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: if you have an easy way to request a plugin redraw from the client, that would be best :)
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: get your script to trigger off the gmcphandler broadcast?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: I'm not needing a broadcast, I'm making a broadcast to fresh the plugin window
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: That makes no sense
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: probably doesn't this is my second day with gmcp
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: gmcp is sent every time there's a change
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: your plugin should detect this and automatically refresh
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no need to send another request
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: I am making a change to a world variable, those don't force gmcp broadcasts unless you sendgmcp
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: after I change the world variable, I want the plugin window to update
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: this is achieved through sendgmcp request char, but I don't need all of the lines, any of them will do
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set whatever changes your world variable to broadcast, and get your plugin window to update on the broadcast?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you don't need any server side information in that case at all
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: is there a way to broadcast to the plugin directly? asking for a redraw or modifying a variable?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=BroadcastPlugin
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: get your other plugin, when receiving that message, to run the redraw function or whatever
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: I may be back rather soon, but thanks for now :)
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: how do you destroy a detached screen from command line?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the double field in gmcp.comm.quests is the amount of qps gained from double qp, right? Or is it simply a boolean value?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: anyone here familiar with google sketchup
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: hmm guess not
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: thanks anyways
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: anyone know how to change the dilimeter in excel export?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think this is no curse channel.
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But yeah, isn't it an option when you go to seperated data.
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Tex to Columns is what it is called.
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: text*
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I set a cmud session to be default
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thingle Tech: for the new mushclient is there any way to make f1 stop bringing up the help window?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: yes, file -> global -> general -> f1
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thingle Tech: wicked, thx :)
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: anyone work with tintin?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Very basics.
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: btw got it working Men
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nice, without having to do anything?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: standard export didnt wrap in " , also didnt escape the quotes I had
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: so I had to change dilimeter
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: then it worked
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha, well excel must not follow the CSV standard :P
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: yea thats how we were on different pages earlier
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: but im just trying to see if i can pass a string with vars in it to call
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: looks like i need to do a function for it, shouldnt be tough though
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: how can i resize my main output window on mushclient
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: im on a smaller monitor so i don't have the resize arrows on lower right hand corner
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the upper-left corner
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Grab it by the very top line of the window and drag it up and left until you can see the resize toool at the bottom right.
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i do not have anything on top left
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any corner works
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need a drag thing
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: tech top line
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when your mouse is on an outer edge or corner, it'll change to a resize double-arrow
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yeah not getting any double arrows
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: anywhere
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: talking about the whole of mushclient, not a miniwindow
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: yes. i am too
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: my main output window is too big and I cannot resize it
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not main output window...that's not all of mushclient
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: i can resize all of mushclient no problem
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: but the mainout window is still too big inside of mushclient's main window
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Has it always been too big, or did you copy the client to another screen?
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: another screen
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: and i do not have access to another screen right now
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: you can possibly edit the height/width variables and reinstall the plugin
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Search your state folder for a file with c293f9e7f04dde889f65cb90 in the name and delete it, restart MUSH, done
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typin resetaard
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: reset aard did it
T3/r3/2011-05-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ruiner Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: why can't i add as mapper goto as a portal?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not even a question
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient 4.73 obsoletes some code I wrote last week. now I have to rejigger a bunch of plugins. :\
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: last week? maybe 3 weeks ago.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: ack! sorry english is not my primary language... hmmm anyway to rephrase and hope you'll understand me this time... why is it not possible to use mapper portal mapper goto 16224, then issue mapper goto 16224?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Exactly what is that supposed to do?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is that a serious question?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: in land of legend i want to go to say virginia... after using the portal i want it to buy tickets first before boarding the train
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can do mapper goto 16224 just fine. I don't understand the first part of your question, though. Why would you type "mapper portal mapper goto 16224"?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What you're describing is a custom exit.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: not really because its four of a kind
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "mapper cexit buy ticket;run wn;board;run 3e;give ticket conducter" or something of that sort
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is in fact possible to set up a cexit from the ticket shop that buys a ticket, then quickly boards and runs to the right car as xaxz suggests
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though you'll want to double up those semicolons
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: true
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: "mapper cexit buy ticket;;run wn;;board;;run 3e;;give ticket conducter" or something of that sort
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thats good fiendish. but the shortest path to the 'board' would be n, not e buy ticket
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Though without passdoor, you'll want to throw in some "open e" in there
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the shortest path to virginia requires buying a ticket, though :P
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hence i want it part of my mapper portal command. :D
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: The mapper will still default to using the custom exit first
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Trust me, do the custom exit as I described and it will work... you misunderstand how the "mapper portal" command works entirely.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i know the mapper cexit works.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: its what im doing atm.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so what do you want to do with portal?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i dont know how to say explai this... *laughs
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Are you suggesting standing in the room you arrive in and doing "mapper portal mapper goto ###;buy ticket;run wn;board" etc, etc?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well that's how the portal command works... it tells the mapper how to get to the room you are currently standing in.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: like... going to mississippi with an alias
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why do you need to use mapper portal for that
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: alias the starting room of mississipi?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper portal is used at the /destination/ of a portal
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: then with the cexit, it will automatically go there?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is there a www or something where I can load pre-made cexits and such? I could do them myself, but I don't know that I can be bothered doing one for every single room I want to get to.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i need a 'mapper cexit' to mississipi from 'mapper portal legend'
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so add cexits
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh i get it now. cexits from the portal room?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd probably add the cexits from the ticket room
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: the suggestion on the land of legend cexit works perfectly
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: just added them from the ticket room
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: all work
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well, technically you can cexit from any room.. start of the area, w of the ticket room, from in front of the train... as long as it starts with a speedwalk to the ticket vendor.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: However, it's best to be smart about it. Need to consider that (without a modification of the plugin code) you only have 2 seconds to reach your destination before it records the destination room.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I could have made the cexit duration completely arbitrary, but decided against it
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I forget why
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably to impact botting slightly
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you wrote the mapper?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a lot of it, yes
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I had to update it slightly for one area...
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you now
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in what way?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: just added to the timer so a cexit would work
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish smirks.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: the lag in fantasy fields on the lamp
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: is more than 2 seconds.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how about adding custom exits to the right click context menu? so if 2 seconds is too little, we can have an option of editing it manually
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: you say I wish to see the genie.. and the cexit was failing.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: also made it so if it only finds one room on a search it autowalks there.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: scryn: it can be made client side
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn shrugs helplessly.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like botting to me
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm hearing a no on the cexit www, so I guess it's a DIY job - is there any more in-depth resource for creating them than the mapper help?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: how is that botting?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I bet you autorun after requesting a quest
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: no... I have to type out mapper area (ma now) room name...
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: if it finds multiple rooms that match I click... if it only finds *1* match.. no reason to click..
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless you accidentally did the wrong search
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: then I go to the wrong room and it's my fault :)
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that'll be your choice
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: which is not good at all. clicking is fine in my opinion. *grins
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: if it's botting I'll stop... but pretty sure since I still have to type out the search it's within the rules...
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: GentooX, post a suggestion for right-click or arbitrary length cexits on https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list and I'll consider it
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I don't promise to do it
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: still thanks for considering it :D
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My bast cp plugin misses the first entry when it auto-updates - is this a common problem someone can give me a fix for?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Add a carriage return (a %c) at the end of your prompt
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Looks like that worked a treat - thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: is there a sort plugin other than madcatz, his does not work for me?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lits Tech: TESTING?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: rgr
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lits complains about the double roaches.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lits lights them up.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: What was your question?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lits Tech: looking for someone with some mathmatica/wolfram experience?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Desmonda goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: is there a way to figure out how much of a particular area the GMCP mapper has mapped?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: not really
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lits Tech: ok...
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: you can always to explored resetarea, and then redo it
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type explored and you might be able to figure if you used it from the beginning.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: When your explored for the area reaches 100%, the mapper has too
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: thanks. i just started using the mushclient, so I guess explored resetarea is the way to go.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "s there a way to figure out how much of a particular area the GMCP mapper has mapped?" ---> yes there is
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nebmaatre perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type 'mapper area ' (notice the space on the end) or 'mapper area %'
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: and the number of targets found = number of rooms mapped...got it. Thanks!
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: please put together a list of questions you have about the mapper and other plugins and send them to me. even questions that you had before but now have answers to, like that one. I want to get a good list of questions to answer in the online guide
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: aka faq
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: they don't, it's fiction
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: that's the only one I've had so far, but I've only been using it for a day. I'll be sure to send any more your way.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: is there a way to increase my automapper database size?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: by mapping new rooms
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that question doesn't even make sense
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Sure. Explore, and it will naturally increase.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: i seem to lose maps...or parts of them
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that can happen if your computer crashes
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: under normal conditions you won't lose maps
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can always force the database to save by doing File->Save World Details
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or by running a mapper backup in a version where backup isn't broken :\
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shapechanger Tech: ok, but my computer has not crashed....appears to have happened a few times...though i am running from different pcs
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... does that really have an effect? Save World Details on the database, I mean. My mush crashes ALL the time, and though it loses things like aliases, triggers, etc if I don't have them out before a crash, the database has never had trouble.
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, if you map one area on one pc, then play on the other pc, the new area won't miraculously be there unless you copied over the database...
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well the mapper plugin closes and re-opens the database when OnPluginSaveState is called. and I'm pretty sure that saving world details also calls that
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least it does in the latest development snapshots
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can't guarantee behavior in old versions
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there will be a new official release in the coming weeks
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: having a catv problem
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: my analog catv is poor, but the cablemodem is 100% fine
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: if i got a digital tuner will it fix this?
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: most likely
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: then you could get digital channels :)
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: waiting for FIOS though
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: its still not out yet here :(
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Denarius Tech: FIOS is freaking sweet
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: but you can still get digital tuner till then
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yeah its planned
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: you should be happy with what you have, I cant even get cable internet at my house
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: dont wanna pay for crap tv, last time i had to complain 5 times till time warner got a truck roll to fix the broken signal in the building, tv was bad as well as bit errors on my cablemodem, they fixed trthe biterrors but now the tv picture quality went bad again :(
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: stuck on DSL with 150K down max
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i just thought to run a diagnostic of the biterrors on my cablemodem but its all fine now
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: 100%, last time it showed biterrors
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: bit error rate is fine, the connection levels are perfect and no issues connecting except for this mud client in jacva, it times out for some reason and puts me into a lagging state where i cant recover from
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: the last time it lagged i was able to recover tho
T3/r3/2011-05-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: I somehow lost the dragbar on top of the main window in the client...is there a way to set the window back to its original position/dimensions?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: so glad Apple's court case over Amazon launching an Android application store called "Appstore" was throne out
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: do anyone know when the playstation network will be running again
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: don't think even Sony know....
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: I get the impression that not even Sony knows that.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: heh ok thanx
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: once sony fixes the security flaws to keep hackers out
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: when all the court cases against them are settled? 100 years?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: It's times like this I'm glad to be a blind gamer. I didn't spend any money on a PSN, and Aardwolf doesn't have my CC. :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: but somebody or some organisation supplied those flaws - blame microsoft? or apple? or ..
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: i blame that babbage fella
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: They didn't even have a firewall
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They stored pwords and cc as plain text...
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: that's not actually true
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: idjits! this Sony flaw is serious to some, and blaming Babbage or Hollerith or the USa census bureau is in poor taste, as bad as making chest jokes about chess
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as bad as attempting to pin it on Apple
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: so do they think it was criminals hacking for profit or hackers just for the hell of it / to pee off de man?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: almost certainly for profit
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was both
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the for-profit hackers struck while sony was busy with the hell of it/political hackers
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: and if afaik, nobody is at personal risk of loss unless their credit card vendor are frauds
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Abelinc, that was multiple choice - you are/were pinning the sabotage on Apple by excluding the other choices (belated repartee)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: last I checked, Apple and Microsoft didn't make ecommerce solutions...out of that multiple choice, none of them are an option
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so failed repartee, as usual
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: any easy way to add a 10 point left margin to a random mushclient plugin?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: window or miniwindow? (window is easier :P)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: miniwindow, unfortunately
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, it looks like miniwindows draw the text line by line...outputting one line, moving the cursor down and to the left, then outputting the next line...
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd need to basically have that "move x back to beginning" part be "move x back to beginning + margin"
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: ah, that doesn't sound nearly as bad as I had imagined
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Watlok Tech: I'll give it a try, thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: i'm using a version of the aard mushclient from about a year ago (433) ... is it fairly straightforward to switch to the new one without having to redo aliases etc?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: Anyone using comodo firewall?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I never heard of it.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nope
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i just got an update but it turns out its the same version and im worried someone tried to give me a fake version
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: #1 rule.. don't pirate security software :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i read on their forums that they said an update was issued today to fix a bug in it tho but why not a new revision #
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: its free
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: nothing to pirate
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: freeware
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then get it from the source, nto a 3rd party
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i did
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then you should be fine :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: they gave me an UPDATE notice
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: but the version # stayed the same
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Let me ask this question Linux?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: after i updated it
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: so im not sure if its an official version or not
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: what OS are you running?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: windows xp
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: ill email comodo
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I never heard of that firewall at all.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: its #1 rated
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: #1 rated free firewall :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i think they just issued an alert cause it was a new update to fix some bug in the last update
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: If I am a pirate, a virus writer, yes most my stuff I would make #1 also.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Is it a trusted source?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: popped in my toolbar saying updates are available
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you're probably worrying over nothing
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: unless Comodo replies "Updates? there were no updates!"
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: ok i got the support forums, turns out they updated it and kept the revision the same
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grexo )
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i had to go to the forums to find this
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: they fixed a bug in the release
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: that is lame, if you are gonna do updates, do new revision for each one
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: even if its a minor fix
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: but it was how they decided to do it, go figure :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: someone else pointed this out
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: go figure
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: ok its all good
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Daddy Milquetoast Tech: I need some help with this. in mushclient the map stopped updating, any ideas? someone told me to reload a copy of bigmap but I can't find it
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: milq, bigmap isn't likely the map you need to reload...bigmap is just the pictures of the continents, not the automap sent from the MUD as you morve or the kewl newish mapper
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you probably need to reload the gmcp helper or the gmcp mapper...sometimes easiest just to quit & relaunch, as that'll reload 'em all for you
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: can a microwave disrupt a wireless network?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: sure
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: yeah they're at similar frequencies
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: is it 2.4 ghz?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: wait thats phone
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: hmm ... so hot chocolate or aardwolf ... hmm
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: get a cisco router
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: dual band
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: Yeah 802.11 b/g is around 2.4 GHz .. 802.11a is around 5 GHz
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: should be easy to test eh? turn microwave on while doing ping test and then do test w/o
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feral Farkyss Tech: microwaves always screw my router
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: yeah that's a decent test, watch your round-trip times to see if they increase or if pings are dropped.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: 2.4ghz = microwave
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: you need a 5ghz then
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: dual band then
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yeah i need router too
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: i think it is that ... lost my connection just now as i was using microwave then as soon as mw stopped the laptop reacquired nrtwork
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: 2.4ghz is microwave, thats normal
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: 2.4ghz is phones or local devices and microwave
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: just didn't know if it was in theory possible
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yeah its been known for years
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: nerds developed it years ago (the wireless 2.4ghz) bands are unlicensed frequencies
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: so if I wrap my cell and a hot dog together...
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: you get what you pay for :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Messy Jesse Tech: i use cables on my network, screw wireless ;)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: its unlicensed therefore can get disconnected from stuff
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: well the router was free and the micowave is 20 years old! :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i need a router
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: but 2.4ghz band
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: but 2.4ghz band
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: sorry
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: damn input bar is lame
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: happens to be the frequency that excites molecules in food .. probably water?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: not sure .. it works on pizza rolls and hot dogs, I know that much
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: whatever
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: doesnt matter
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of a 'container' to wrap terminals in for linux (ubuntu)? Basically, i want it to remember where i position stuff inside it, what each terminal is running, and to be able to control them as a unit (minize, maximize, close). Any ideas? My google-fu is a fail.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: minimize*
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: nobody have an idea then?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: i told you yesterday
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheezFries Tech: ndis wrapper
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griflet Tech: Hi is anyone using the mushclient download from aardwolf site?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: It's better to just ask what you have a question about.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griflet Tech: Okie doke. Easy question: I was messing around with my fonts, and now it doesn't format correctly. Can you tell me what the default font was?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griflet Tech: Ok, I guess it wasn't an easy question.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: I believe it's FixedSys
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griflet Tech: ok thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: been a while since i was on mush though, so if i'm wrong someone feel free to correct me
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griflet Tech: Nope I don't think that's it. I'll just reinstall. Yay.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I don't use the default font, you could try the font at http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Jibz/Dina/index.html as recommended in help on bast's spellup plugin, it's quite nice
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griflet Tech: Ok, in case anyone wants to know, if's Lucida Console
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Griflet Tech: -it's
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an #elseif equivalent in cmud
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nested an if in an else
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: how come its a security risk to not idle people connected to a mud that someone is running?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: why do you think that people made that a norm?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: does bullhead city have broadband ? :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: florida does
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: whos the telco for bullhead (arizona)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are valid reasons to kick people off, but for example, Aard allows you to set yourself up to stay connected 24/7 whether you're there or not
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i gotta google :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: err bing, lycos whatever
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: oh man!!!!!!1
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: how?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: how?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: how?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: oh set up a time to sleep/stand sleep stand sleep stand every 5 minutes
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just have your client send something (even just hitting enter) every 10 mins or so
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: if bullhead city has broadband ill be set
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no need to sleep/stand
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just hit enter
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Veck Tech: just an example
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: thanx!!!!!!
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can just trigger of "Your eyes glaze over" Be warned if you die it'll still keep you connected though.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, sometimes it's good to be logged off, like the note Lasher posted recently about aarditems he found on the ground
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I stay connected just to make my logs more complete ;-)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dread Lord Morinon Tech: Yeah, if you die, you don't want your corpse to rot.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: so how do i set up a mush client timer?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: lets you tube it
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: ok still cool
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> timers
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: man you tube hooked me up with this bad arsinal of variable slammers
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: im talking wam
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i got this alias pt opponent p oppone petrifies there aresnals
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: also poi does tha same
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: so i can poison and petrify an opponent that i target
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i could point all my pk spells to one poerson or two i bet
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i still need to learn the script language
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you say add timer, put 10 mins into the recurring time, put Send ("") into the giant box, and use the dropdown just below the giant box to select "script"
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's it, you now won't get bumped off for inactivity
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to get an item from your bag when you have your item as a variable in cmud.. the way it is done in zmud does not work with cmud. Exmaple: Get @variable (xxxxx)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have parsing turned on?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: hmmm if it is off by default then no
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: who invented lua script?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not off by default, but that doesn't mean nit's not off
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the people in rio
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lua is designed, implemented, and maintained by a team at PUC-Rio, the Pontifical Catholic University of Rio de Janeiro in Brazil.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lua was born and raised in Tecgraf, the Computer Graphics Technology Group of PUC-Rio, and is now housed at Lablua. Both Tecgraf and Lablua are laboratories of the Department of Computer Science of PUC-Rio.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: cool ness
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, that was taken from http://lua.org, click "about"
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, because they're in brazil, they had some export restrictions on the usual tools, so they made one up
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: does mushclient use 100% lua code?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, lua is just one of the many options that you can choose
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua is just for scripting, mushclient isn't written in lua
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i mean can is use 100% of the lua code?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua itself is more of a framework...that framework allows the programs to invent their own functions...
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why, even though you can write scripts for mushclient and for cmud in lua, you cannot just take one and drop it into the other
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: portability wasn't a goal, extensibility was
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: well it says to use lua code so i was just wondering if i could like take everything lua teaches about there code and use it with a lua script that mushclient uses
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: but for all i know lua might have newer stuff that mushclient never new existed
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use everything you learn, yes
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: oh cool
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you can't write the script just by what you learn from lua.org...you'll need to know the mushclient stuff
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is heavily-documented
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: ctrl+shift+alt+l
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: abe do you know what would cause my FTP to keep messing up then if i go online to edit the file it still will not work
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: hi, how do i copy text from mud, and paste into a note, and preserving color?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: in zmud :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc as long as you have the color codes defined in zmud, it remembers the colors on copy/paste
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod abe...you'll want to set up your color syntax like this: http://217.64.242.120/pm-docs/ColorSyntax.jpg
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thanks Myrkul :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: thanks. i set it to ansi or v100?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: under color scheme option. :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i think you're on the wrong page of prefs :P
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: oh so i dun touch that one. tks! :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: are you looking at the screenshot?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: yeah!
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: check 'syntax enabled' enter the and
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: F
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: bah :) @F, @w
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right, just make your prefs look exactly like that :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bonjour Tech: ty. i give it a shot :)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could add D for grey too, second box on the top row
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that pic's a bit old
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misae Tech: Oh. Huh.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sajion Tech: does anyone know how to make my word bigger on cmud?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misae Tech: Ah... That sounds like a personal problem. Did you try porn?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sajion Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: prefs -> styles -> default session
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in php how do i check if a var starts with something?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: starts with something?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm sure it's in the helpfile. Look through the function reference (php.com, php.org, or something?) for things that seem related to your task.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compare if substr of it is equal
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i want to check if $foo begins with the letter T
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he probably wants a begins() function or something like it.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i think var[0] should equall that number.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: or sorry character maybe like var[0] == 'E'
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: nods.. right.. php is not typesafe
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i could be wrong
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: can probably do what majehsto said...
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: if(var[0] == 'E') etc...
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: or T... whatever you wanted to to be
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: tell me if it worked
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i can almost make a forum without encrypting passwords with php
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: but i dont want to just put there passowrds in a file.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not going to test it atm ... im trying to wrap up something else ima test it later tonight
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: does anyone know if there is a script in zmud that performs just as well as the mush group display?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud does not support GMCP natively
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: doesn't matter, really. Just means you spam GROUP a lot more.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the big advantage to GMCP is that it reduces spam, not that it's revealing a whole lot of extra info that wasn't there before.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you have a link handy to a zmud script for that, then }:>
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's providing it more timely too....i.e. groupies health.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: that's a function of spam, Mendaloth. And, just because I can recognize the possibility of a script doesn't mean there is one or that I know where to find it.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exactly, dokkar...so stfu :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he didn't ask if it was possible to make one. he asked if there WAS one
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I do know of a script to do it in zmud, but it was never made public
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: heh, he's using the wrong client if he doesn't want to write scripts. He should move to mush.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's lots of public zmud scripts
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: for years it was pretty much the only client with public scripts, actually
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm fully aware of ZMud's availability and capability.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: problem I have with mush, is im using to creating aliases with zmud syntac
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client existed years before zmud, and has always had public scripts available
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: i find it annoying that I have to go into the interface everytime I want to update an alias
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: warlen, you can :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: how can I do that?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardmush ships with a zmud alias syntax plugin
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i liked zmud
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: but i didnt know mushclient would let you keep commands on the command prompt i got used to it cause zmud was in my search client
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i even paid for zmud
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: just to use it on windows 2000 i think
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, game -> configure -> commands, auto-repeat command
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: oh man mushclient is unbeatable now
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: but i still like to support thoughs who don't wanna use mush client prefered to zmud
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: what is the plugin called that uses zmud syntax?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: for mush
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: just beacause they might have stuff stored there
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: youd have to remake all your aliases
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ZMud is old and full of bugs. It's like sticking with the previous aardmush client and raving about how great it is, or worse, going to all the trouble to emulate new aardmush feature approximations just so you don't have to upgrade.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: mush is great, there are just old features on zmud most people like
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actually in the aard layout plugin, warlen
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: and the hassle of re-doing everything
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: zmud and cmud are cool, if you've ever really used telnet, anything will work
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: and there was a time, when telnet was it
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud may be full of bugs, but they're well-known bugs with established workarounds...
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i prefer cmud unless your willing to learn lua there isn't much in the way of clients
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my client is old enough to drink }:>
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ehnsomnyak Tech: lol 8c)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: your client's older than the WWW.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need to learn lua for clients
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I bet if you looked you might even find references to usenet or gopher. :P
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: used archie from time to time
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wais ftw
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: how do you make a comment in a lua file for mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: --
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but use plugins instead of lua files
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (same comments tho)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: just came back after a 1.5 year hiatus and downloaded the new mush and tried to install bash's scripts but the spellup script for whatever reason isn't correctly detecting what spells i already have on me
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: so for instance it keeps trying to cast prot good
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i never used it, but i thought there's a command to forget spells on that
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and then when it "breaks" on that it just stops casting
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah i can remove prot good from the list
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: what do yo umean plugins?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: but then it breaks on say absorb
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and i would prefer to keep all the spellups in the list to refresh automatically
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: majehsto, plugins are self-contained script files for mushclient
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: containing the script stuff, the aliases, triggers, etc
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll probably want to read through a few existing plugin files before reinventing the wheel on everything yourself
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah i'm not trying to write anything just trying to get bast's stuff to work
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: talking to majehsto on that part :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Majehsto smiles happily.
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: where are the exisiting plugin files?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vale, type "tags", make sure SKILLGAINS and SPELLUPS are both YES, and that Global tags option is On
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: majehsto, in worlds, plugins
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and then "spellups refresh" to have it double-check with Aard what spells are on you
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: xmls are plugins?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the prot spells, you'll want to set up a "spellup block + 68 121" to say that inertial barrier will block protection good (it's a 1-way block, so inert will still cast)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins are xmls ;-)
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: odd those tags were already on and it still seems to just be locked up
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one other change you'll def want to make is to ensure that your prompt ends in %c
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i also noticed some thing, i'm seeing some of the tags as they come throguh and the spellup plugin used to filter those out
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: so xmls make windows?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: for instance i saw the affon tag for inertial barrier
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xmls can do absolutely anything
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: and the plugin seemed to not pick that up at all
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: making miniwindows included
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, vale, that's likely because your prompt doesn't end in %c
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "config" to see your Aard config, including (at the bottom) your current prompt code for prompt and bprompt
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy each of those and paste 'em back in with the %c at the end
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prompt [%h/%Hhp blah blah, etc%c...then bprompt [%h/%Hhp blah blah, etc%c
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: yeah got it lets see how that goes
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: one last thing when trying to set up the spellup block i'm getting a nil value passed to find_spellsn error
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: is there a way to configure plugins with mushclient?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: Does anyone know of and have an identify stat script that summarizes the stats on an ID for mush?
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: anyone know why i would get this error when trying to set up spellup block? A nil value was passed to find_spellsn
T3/r3/2011-05-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there any easy way to import my aliases from my old mush to this one? i'm not sure which file they would be embedded in and i'm afraid for screwing everything up royally
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: in the new mush is there a way to detach the main window so that it has the text entry place with it and the tick timer with it?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: does anyone get a weird bug where a line of the map displays in the main output window?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: it is just one line
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: mine does it in aylor showing - - - - <*> - - - -
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I make a cmud seesion default
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: how does one substitute a word in the output to another word?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranran Tech: #sub in tintin++
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: oh, doing this in MUSH
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: advances linux programming
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: anyone know anything about malloc falty code?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: or is malloc a good function?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i was looking on how to program memory locations with c programming but mallocs what i got from the search
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... 'program memory location'
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That stuff you're writing? When you run the compiler, that turns into a program.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: yea like i wanted to make a black 100px buy 100px square with a cprogram using linux with a c program
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh, you want GRAPHICS? Look up QT or something.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i hate qt i want to do it with linux libraries
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: is it possable?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: QT is cross-platform, including Linux.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Lol program a black square with malloc :p
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: iknow but its a library i want to use just c programming ro do i have to use asm for stuff like that?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: no i couldn't with malloc thats all they show me when i want to program memory locations
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You don't want to do graphics from the ground up. In any language.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: wlel thats all the web points out
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: doesn't matter
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: so c doesnt have a manual way to video program.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: not a standard library for graphics, no
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: but lots of libraries are available to help you, such as QT
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranran Tech: How about SDL?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: sdl i think i might have tried it but i dont know how to install libraries to linux wither
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: either
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Majehsto Tech: i don't update openSUSE 10.1
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In MUSHclient, when I click on the mapper miniwindow, it doesn't take door-opening cexits into account. Is this known? Is this fixed/fixable?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: yeah, add them as cexits
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Like
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I did, and mapper goto blah works well
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: mapper cexit open e;e
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Iunno
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: but clicking on rooms in the miniwindow doesn't do the right thing.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Where do I send enhancements to MUSHclient scripts?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know if there is a way to access muds via iPad?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there are some mud clients.. but nothing amazing
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nalimetta Tech: I think you can use the ipod touch mud clien t
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nalimetta Tech: Don't know if they have any ipad specific ones though
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranran Tech: how about tintin++?I am not sure on ipad.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Microsoft is buying Skype for $8.5bn! http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2011/may11/05-10corpnewspr.mspx
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spank Tech: Taking on Google phone, are they?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Touch apps usually transfer, guess I'll trawl through the app store
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well they can't really make any more shitty a product than skype are doiung.. their client is terrible
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I heard it was to tackle facetime
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: bring on free talk\video conferencing!
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hello, this is M$ you're talking about :-P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. but ms makes things free/cheap when they want to destroy the competition...
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they have a long history of it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bit hard to outcompete when the comp. is already free
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but conferencing is not free! $9 a month
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: so bring it on!
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: what does the mudinfo mean?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The mudinfo board?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Which note?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the last note by lumina
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: the last note by lumina
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Means that she's made a minor change to the mprogs to hint at the main reward, and increased the chance of obtaining the reward after finishing the goal?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: oh
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks a log
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lot*
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That was pretty much just a direct quote from the note :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tenlorn Tech: what can I do so I don't have to manually load the Container_Sort plug-in everytime I start up the mushclient? It's in the plugins folder and the other plugins seem to load properly.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In Win7, you can adjust volume for each application. Can you do the same in XP?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: alternatively, can you mute all sounds in firefox?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: probably some third party apps for that i'd guess?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grammy Gramdel Tech: i don't use windows so no idea really
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei frowns.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexxi Tech: what's a good client for mac?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: atlantis isnt bad
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Limunious Tech: i use atlanits
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i used it for a bit
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use mushclient with WINE
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lexxi Tech: thank ou
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: I recently changed computers and now i don't have all the media from my itunes purchased file that was on my other comp is there a way to retrieve files purchased to this comp from apple?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you jsut need to authorize itunes with your account
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreadlord Talleron Tech: ah so it is possible to redownload things i've already bought?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: is there a replacement for madcatz' sort plugin?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: What's wrong with it?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yikes, the man, It didn't work for me out of the box, I might need other plugins?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Nah, nothing else needed. Just have to have certain tags/options on, IIRC.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Actually, on second thought, I don't think there's any that you have to have on
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: What's not working about it?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it worked 6 months ago on another vers, i upgraded copy and pasted and can see the plugin
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Can't see the plugin?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i do have one suggestion madcatz.. unless i'm runnign an old version, if you have the prompt off when you run it you get prompt spammed
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: i get the plugin loaded, see the intial notes, "sort 3.bag" lists items, "sorting done" message, but noe sorting is done
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Nods, it was meant so that people that had it on *didn't* get spammed.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Should be fixable with just deleting a line or two
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: I just never got around to it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i figured.. i didn't know if there was a way to detect if it was on or off accurately..
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's no biggie.. we were just talking about it y'day so i thought i'd raise it when it came up in topic :) it's a nice plugin
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: I'm actually surprised it works at all if you have prompts off
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: On that note, do you have prompts on or off, Myopic?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Many of my scripts that don't handle prompts very well use an option setting that will temporarily turn off (though yours sounds like it would need the opposite) prompts if this setting is true.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Just an idea.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that did it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm currenlty wrestling with the fact my plugin wont save state
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Nods, mine actually uses the messages you get from toggling prompts to know when it's started/finished
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Oh, I see.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is there somehting i'm missing i wonder? I have the function OnPluginSaveState()
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: thanks exalted tech dude
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: It was really just something I wrote for myself and a friend, and figured I might as well throw a few instructions and such together and release it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Stuff I write for myself is generally very ugly and unrefined :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Winkle, is this a plugin you wrote?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: like Lasher ... :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Heh, I feel you, Madcatz... same. Usually very ugly on my side...
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. a GMCP quest status plugin
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: WinkleWinkle: In the plugin info section, you need a line that says: save_state="y"
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Or something to that effect
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Not sure the exact syntax
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: understood, that concept works for me, thanks for doing it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: That's it.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh damn me! I was sure i had that set to y
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: its set to n
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: I've spent hours trying to figure out why one of my plugins wasn't saving it's state, just to figure out I had to add that line
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: its*
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fuzzy Madcatz stares at the sky.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the worst part is i included that line.. but i copied the n value as well :(
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm actaulyl going to release my plugin.. is there anywhere central for that.. or jsut start my own wordpress site for it?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: as i've kinda got the ahng of it now
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: There's a forum on the MUSHclient website for you to post plugins in.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Other than that, not really.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm going to be writing a lot of them
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Maybe should start a page in the wiki for plugins for different client, with links to them.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm making a Vi flavour of mush and I'm going to have a soundpack plugin
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyriantha Tech: so far his VI modifications to mush are awesome. :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: If you want to use my sort plugin with prompts off, you can probably make the following two changes:
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: replace SendNoEcho("prompt") with SendNoEcho("echo You will no longer see prompts.")
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: and
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Queue("prompt", false) with Queue("echo You will now see prompts.")
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Queue("prompt", false) with Queue("echo You will now see prompts.", false)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: rather
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Haven't actually tested that, so try at your own risk, but think that should work.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll take it from there :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thanks :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle, make sure Fiendish knows about your VI-friendly changes, and also let the guy that runs the comli site know about your plugins
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Thanks Abe. Fiend has already volunteered to be in the loop on my stuff.. adn who si the 2nd person?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nebulous runs the aardhaven.comli.com...basically, there's a page on that site with links to a bunch of MUSHclient plugins that he knows about
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool. I think i'm going to spin up a wordpress site for my plugins.. they are all starting to grow..
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could go the google code route like bast & fiendish, that lets you do version control easier
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: will it let me group lots of scripts together?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: cool.. that sounds a better route
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, at work we stopped making a public PC with JAWS, openbook, etc on it since for years nobody ever used them as ADA stations...they just asked us to put one together for 2 of our locations again...we threw jaws onto a vanilla box & it idled at like 40% cpu usage
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's a lotta cpu
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, with the cpu cost and the price cost (gotta love freedom scientific :P), I think I'm gonna look harder at some of the newer options
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Virigoth Tech: just FYI: 'Int serial1/1:0' is not a valid skill or spell.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Virigoth buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i had my firewall on, turns out some firm which uses the ntp servers is
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: sending requests to peoples machines for alleged research purposes, im glad i had my firewall on, to block it, ntp is a bad loophole which can alter time and stuff on yer machine
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: could have been dangerous :(
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: cant live without a firewall :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: someone tried to get into my machine on port 121
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: computers which use ntp for their time don't just accept anybody's word for the time
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: same f
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: firewall or no, they couldn't change your time
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: same IP as the nntp server
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: err ntp
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: not news, i mean time (ntp)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, usenet :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yeah i know
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: typo
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: my firewall alerted me that the ip of the ntp (same ip) tried to initiate a request to get in on port 121
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Got a problem, probably a bug. On certain sites (ehow, best example, where I have a lot of articles written), the page will only stay up for 5-10 seconds before automatically going to a Yahoo (or fake) search site. Anybody familiar with this?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: port 121 is ntp related, the connection could have been used for nefarious purposes,
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: ntp receive requests work fine
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: with it blocked
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: so what were they actually trying to do? ntp gives out way too much info to them
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it couldn't have been used for nefarious purposes
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: they can get a lot of info i dont want released
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: yes it could
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it couldn't
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: syncing your computer via ntp doesn't turn on an ntp daemon
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: it was a serious privacy issue, and my firewall alerted me, had i been using the stock windows firewall it would have connected!!!
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing on your computer would be listening on that port. no info
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You bury your face in your hand and sigh.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i think u miss the point :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: No takers, eh?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, because your firewall told you it was a serious privacy issue, I'm sure it is
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, actually I get the point, but I understand the technology
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: my firewall understood it was a seperate request but windows firewall would have allowed it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: shit
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL hunches his shoulders, wrinkles his face, and squints at you.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: the point is i had a firewall which did what it needed to do :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, which amounted to doing nothing
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: people are rediculous for using stock windows firewall
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: like abe said tho... blocking connection on port that is redundant and useless is just as useful
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: no, it gave me notice someone tried to port scan or attemt to connect on my ntp port which I was successfully able to block
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: teh difference between what your firewall did, and having zero firewall whatsoever (even MS's turned off) is the exact same privacy risk for that particular connection
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Come on, tech people... nobody has this problem or has seen it?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: the point is i blocked it and they cant get my personal info about time information
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they couldn't have gotten that info even without it being blocked
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: -_- that port does nothing tho so what info would they get?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i read what the ntp port is capable of and it is fine to sync automatically with time and that isnt blocked but a seperate incoming connecting from the same IP is
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they wouldn't have gotten a single packet in response without a firewall
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: Prolly trying to hack you steal your level 35 Thief :p
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: it gives a lot more info about you then u thin
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sheni Tech: to*
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: lol
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: think
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredibly Flat Tech: for years there's been ShieldsUP! at https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 to help you identify your port vulnerabilities... lots of others out there too
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredibly Flat Tech: but Gibson Research (shieldsUp!) is reliable
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ealdwulf Tech: my firewall is a large russian with a bat and a clipboard that has all the packets that are 'on the list'
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: the websitesi found said that others concurred with me, it was a blacklisted ip
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grexo, it doesn't give a single shred of info when there's no daemon running
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: thats about infinetly more useful then ms firewall >_>
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bat or no bat
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rhavage, try ipconfig /flushdns, opening a blank browser, delete all cache/etc stuff, then trying the site again
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's likely a dns hijack which is then pointing to its own webserver which is serving up nefariousness before an http meta refresh to the initially-requested domain
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err to their other site
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: anyways its all good
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Incredibly Flat tells Abelinc, "You said NEFARIOUSNESS", Abelinc says, "So?"
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anywho, time to clock out, take off my network engineer's hat and go home ;-)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better shut down ntp first tho
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredibly Flat Tech: ntpd
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and for the record, ntp is port 123...erpc is 121 ;-)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: what is erpc?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredibly Flat Tech: something like.... ps-ef|grep ntpd|kill -9 yada
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: i think u missed the point
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Encore Expedited Remote Pro.Call
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I assure you I didn't
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: it was not an outgoing connection (established from my pc)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: it was an incoming request
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was an incoming request...I got it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: ntp only needs outgoing to function fine
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an incoming request which the OS would not respond to
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: incoming means its sending back data
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Incredibly Flat wishes someone would just google "ntp hack", have a good read, and relax :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: well nothing was on that port but it could potentially be a security loophole so its smart to block it out which is what the firewall did, i didnt have a packet sniffer to see what was attempted to be transferred
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a packet sniffer wouldn't have helped
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was an attempt to open a connection, not an attempt to send something to you
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: study up on syn/ack
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: it
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: as far as im concerned i did the right thing
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes you did
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: and i would have blocked it again :) outgoing is enabled fine
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were never told otherwise
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ealdwulf Tech: I bet Abel was the one trying to hack Grexo and he's just tryin' to cover it up
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: question tho, how do i reenable ips in my firewall if i blocked something out accidentally which i needed
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you did the right thing, but that's like looking both ways before crossing an empty street...it's the right thing to do, but in this particular instance, it didn't actually do anything to "save" you
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would depend on your particular firewall
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: comodo
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: familiar with it?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: they issued 3 updates lately and had some sort of issues which they worked out
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: they finally released a new version with a .1 added :)
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: but yeah its good
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's fine, check in the manual for how to unblock an IP
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: no results in the manual :(
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ealdwulf Tech: By 'manual', Abel meant 'google' ^_^
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://forums.comodo.com/help-for-v3/how-to-unblock-an-ip-t31275.0.html
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: hmmm so if i block something on comodo i think its just temporary
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: unless i permanently block it?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: doesnt seem to be a way to reenable it so im assuming so
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: in other words reboot if i cant get into something :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what else does comodo make? I read an article today about the PSN hackjob that mentioned that comodo was also hacked.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: comodo came out with an update to the firewall
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: wasnt hacked
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: one needs to make sure to get latest patches and updates
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: a hardware firewall would be better
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grexo Tech: oops
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Is there a way, on GNU Screen, to set a certain number of splits and their sizes via command line initiation? Or will i have to continue to do ctrl+a+S, ctrl+a+:, resize , etc?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Cheezburger, I don't know the specifics, but I believe that's possible with a .screenrc. I know you can with tmux.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: lot*
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone here good with messing with .screenrc to tell me what i'm doing wrong with mine? Basically, i'm trying to get it to start tt++ in the main portion with a width of 85, then a map/group window adjacent to that with a width of 33, and a chat window with whatever is left over.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The screenrc is located here: http://pastebin.com/ex7P0f8g
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: What are you using Gnome/Kde/Xwindows?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: gnome
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am probably just as lost as you are Cheez right now on that.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I am still trying to figure out Ubuntu 11.04 yet myself.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grealsey Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to look at the tables in the dbm file for the mapper in cmud?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mieko Tech: finguring out lua is a pain
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: in Mushclient\Lua\SQLLite I am using stmt:bind_names with something like: "INSERT INTO tablename (object, level, weight) VALUES (:object, :level, :weight)". If I have a LUA Array that has all the same names as the column names in the SQL Lite Databse is there some way to skip the part where I repeat "VALUES (:object, :level, :weight)"
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you may need pro, but otherwise you just open up a database connection just like you were connecting to an external database
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you want to look that closely to a cmud mapper file, though?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: i am having trouble converting it from zmud
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: when trying to do a create index on one of the portal tables it halts
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: on one of the portal tables
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why not use the MapConvert utility?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: where is it in cmud?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's standalone, you can download it from the CMud section at Zuggsoft.com, I believe. It was written as a bandaid for zmapper compatibility until cmapper stuff can be written.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: here's the link to the download page for it http://forums.zuggsoft.com/index.php?page=4&action=file&file_id=87&sid=4f379a0969d05f7eba70f62217ca5ee6
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: got it thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: because with cmud note
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Linoge Tech: mis
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Anyone else pissed off at these hotmail/facebook viruses people keep getting and spamming my inbox with?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos . o O ( I would only get pissed off if they spammed MY mailbox... )
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: The only issue is that i can't block the accounts, because they are legitimate accounts, just been effd over.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: FootLong Cheezburger . o O ( It amazed me that people still get viruses, period. )
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: block the subject?
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: no subject on them
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: stay off the pron haha
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: block anything without a subject then. *grins
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: Hah, i watch tons of pr0n, and I never get viri :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: i would, but that's not a very effective method, gent :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: white list your friends and blacklist the rest but then again i practice safe internet usage i use a modem
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: that would encourage your acquaintances to provide subject in their emails
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FootLong Cheezburger Tech: That's the problem, it IS my friends sending it :P
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: everyone uses a modem.
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i use a computer... *rolls eyes*
T3/r3/2011-05-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Torunkes Tech: bite my shiny metal ass.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: yay, it's my birthday~
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: Anyone use cmud?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: I'm trying to disable the auto-relogging option because when I go idle and walk away from the machine it continuously tries to log me back in.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: Xinthral, click on the Prefs button, then go to Network -> Connection Tab and turn off auto-reconnect.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: In SQL, if only one value is selected in a for row in db2:nrows("SELECT field FROM table") will row be a table or a value?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: You need to include the row perameter
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: So it'll be a table, but with only one field?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: Is it the primary key?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Not the primary key
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what language is this?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: LUA
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: then I don't think so, one sec let me check mai book o SQL
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Wondering if I would use row.field as my value, or just row
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: row.field
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: check the book on lua instead, depends on the API to SQL
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ok, so regardless of how many fields are selected, nrows() will always return a table?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I haven't actually tested it, but it would be very odd for it to act any other way.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ok, awesome, thanks
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: Select * from *, *, *, * where * = *
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: the where parameter will give you the region, and then the pull for that directs them back to the primary key
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra should write a blog or something about basic PC game cracking, but can't write essays to save his own life.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I wonder if there would be any interest in it?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: PC game cracking ?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: there'd be some interest in it, mostly based on the popularity of the games you cracked
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Making a game easier to win by inspecting and modifying the machine code
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: That takes away the entertainment factor
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ah yea I've done that, I would probably read it
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: I'd rather just play the game.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: lots of people like shortcuts
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Xinthral, I got LOTS and LOTS of entertainment out of this cracking (it was my first) :-)
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: I'm not saying it's not usefull
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah the cracking part is quite fun on it's own too
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: I'm just saying why buy a game you're not interested in playing?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Well maybe I am interested in playing it after the cracking ?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: i think the only people who crack games are people who work for competing companies and want to make them undesireable to draw the flock towards their alternate engines
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Actually it was a freely downloadable game which is VERY VERY difficult to complete.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: sort of like my theory on crappy programs that compromise security and antivirus software being its own industry, the antivirus authors probably write the viruses themselves and pay themselves for the pos programs and the programs that protect them
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Or maybe he just wanted to cheat in the game? :P
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.Faust Necroshine Tech: what kind of human has the time to read 100,000 lines of machine codes and find a pattern to exploit or a identical des ? security key combination of altered code to operate their hacks through?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: Necro there are many tools to facilitate such activities.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vvarm Tech: well the guys that know what they're doing making finding the right lines easier
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: also...where there's MONEY to be made, people will do it.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: where the is a challenge to be defeated, people will do it.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}L33tM4st3r Lashan Tech: *where there
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: I'm running ubuntu and CentOS on my server
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: I work at a webhost, and am playing here now lol
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xinthral Tech: anyone a web developer here?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how can you tell if a wireless adapter is going out? I can connect to a network on my ps3/xbox but my computer sees the network about 50% of the time.. i've tried to repair, uninstall etc..
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: can you do macros on mush?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: Yes. game/config/macros
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetsukaze Kurojiryuu Tech: how does one substitute words in MUSH?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ominous Atom Tech: fast, dont see a new button
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fastfinge Tech: game/config/aliases. and Atom: You can't create new macro keys that way. You need to use LUA if a shortcut you want is not listed.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone know of a free adobe acrobat clone?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Democratic Armenia Tech: Google it :D
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: there is one, don't recall the full name off the top of my head, Fox-something
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: google pdf exchange viewer
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sorry 'xchange'
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranran Tech: foixt
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: thanks, i'll look at those :)
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnot Tech: If I set up a variable in mush for my portal bag, how do I call up the variable in an alias @portalbag doesn't work like zmud, is there another simple way?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnot Tech: I'm hunting it down on the forums/help files, but I was hoping it was a really easy question.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: click "expand variables" checkbox
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: @var works fine for me in my portal alias, what is your sendto?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: listen to winkle, ignore me :)
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnot Tech: Ahhh, ok, it's working - thanks!!
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've found an interesting but understandable quirk with expanded variables.. they don't update if the script calls SetVariable.. it's makes sense
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnot Tech: I have a ton to learn, but just that alone is a huge start
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: keep at it.. it gets easier
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: i am not sure it gets easier, because as you learn, you want to do more complex stuff ;)
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agnot Tech: I bet
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh i did lose 2 horus of my life earlier to gmcp
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: too much like hieroglyphics?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: jsut trying to get the value out of the plugin
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I got your joke. Just FYI. :)
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle now feels dumb.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh man!
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: good joke
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: don't feel bad ... having such a tangetially twisted mind is something of a curse at times
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what i'd give to have access to the aard wiki... fix the links to some of the maps that are out of date
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a problem with the aard wiki. account management is broken. you should post a bug note about that
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: posted to "imm"
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in bugs board
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cool
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I reported it once, but I think maybe it got forgotten
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: very cool
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i jsut reported that you have to login to create an account
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: And I just responded to your note that you don't :P
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i read that.. i'm going to post one more reply.. but i'm in
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: thanks catz
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in what way do you not?
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fuzzy Madcatz Tech: Read 'help wiki' under 'creating an account'
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i left the bug as put a "read 'help wiki'" onthe login screen
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Member already exists. Please try again:
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and there's no way to reset the password
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: Glad to know member exists.
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually the inability to reset lost passwords is what I asked justme about back in april
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and the map updates now begin
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least one of us can log in now :)
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't forget your password
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh that's weird. apparently I can edit the main page without being logged in
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I NEED A PASSWORD RESET - Fiendish
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: haha
T3/r3/2011-05-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i forget to put a |