T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: ok, got a really weird problem here
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: I have a standar alias to use portals
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: and I use said alias when I mapped out all my portals with the gmcp mapper
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: now, all of a sudden, it doesn't seem to access the alias properly
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how do i turn on a backscroll in tinyfugue ?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper next was /not/ removed
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: remove it!
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and anything that happens "all of a sudden" I tend to think is probably something you did
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: did I miss half a conversation
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper next is quite useful, why would one to remove it?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm answering questions asked before I left earlier, Decrept
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and i'm making unhelpful comments
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hella Hotcakes Tech: Much appreciated btw. You always do that for my questions.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now you're up to speed
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doink lets off a real rip-roarer ... a greenish cloud envelops Doink!
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Ah, its hotcakes fault.  Makes sense.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: anyone know how to assign colour options in bast's plugins? it gives errors when i use black, white, orange, etc... do i have to use a numeric color code or something?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so who wants to reccommend a good online backup service?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.onlinebackupdeals.com/online-backup-comparison/
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have a search engine, i wanted to hear personal experience
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Good luck with that Tigernuts.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: are you saying nobody uses them?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope, most are still asleep or hung-over from last night
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: hahah I got 3 hours of sleep before 3/4 kids woke me up
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladyos Tech: what are your requirements tigernuts? encryption, space, etc?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Or like me, stayed up too late from last night and are stuck just sstaying awake until work in order to be sure they can get to work on time.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: three fourths of a kid?  shoulda woken up sooner, might have still been a whole kid.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think it was 3 to 4 kids.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: no 3 out of 4 kids lol
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I know 4 kids... and to think I wanted 10.... heh
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: not from utah, are ya? >.>
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: you should sell 3 of them on the internet, 4 is too expensive
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone heard/used mypcbackup.com?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: wow triple qp? that was freakin awesome
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: sounds scammerish
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: what about amazon? i hear their prices aren't too bad
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: depending on how much you need to backup
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Used carbonite for years to back up appraisals, price is decent
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nods, carbonite sounds like the thing to use
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: under what circumstances are l3 managed switches more appropriate than l2, and is there a difference between a "managed" switch and a "smart" switch?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: l3 are routing switches
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gathered that from the spec
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some manufacturers (like allied) make difference between smart and managed switches, you need to check whether "smart" is smart enough for you
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: L3 you may want to use for example to route between VLANs
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so the answer is...
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so the answer is if you don't know that you need L3 switch then choose L2 (and optionally add router)
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have multiple VLANs it may be more convenient to use L3 switch
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are choosing managed switch, then choose one which is supported by you software
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like observium (www.observium.org)
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, all depends on your needs (like security, reporting, speed)
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you can choose then prefer giga switches over simple 100
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, if you plan to connect some switches check whether you can "stack" them
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you plan to connect via fiber then check whether you can afford 10G uplink
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may also want to pick up switch with 2 PSU or with more SFPs
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: all depends on size and your needs
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using winklewinkle's spellup script?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I need to be on land to enter the sea at Masquerade Island, but Levitation spell keeps activating
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: forgetspell didn't work
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: use any spell that can remove spell effects on you
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it casts only if you fail
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it casts as soon as the previous spell wears off
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: levitation is pain, do this: c 'disrupt' levitation;sit
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could disable the plugin for a second
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's plugin, you just click disable and it is disabled.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it forgets levitation that way until you recast it yourself
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: will that work?  Though you had to enter the room for that mprog to fire?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: there is a command to dissable it, I can't remember it, though
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it works since ww's script only fires when you lose affect
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: noauto
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: is the command to disable a spell
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: i don't have the disrupt spell
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or you can just do DisableSpellup temporarily
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: oh, and ww help for all info on scripts
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: guys, anyone know how to make sure your swap partition is encrypted?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://xkcd.com/538/
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude waiting for it to load.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: can i create a custom exit in the mushclient mapper for a portal inside an area?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes stomp
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: but do I assign a direction to it?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cexits don't really use directions
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: or just mapper cexit enter portal?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: ah, i c... thanks... will try it
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: um, that page doesnt say anything about swap
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you do the mouseover
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're a mouseover!
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I moused over your mom last night :P
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Given that "goto" statements in Lua aren't available in 5.1 (they are in 5.2 beta, which I won't download for scripting until it's standard), does anyone know a way I can simulate it?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Cut yourself for wanting to use goto?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: call a function
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what specific use case do you have for wanting to use it?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Write a VM, then target a C compiler to it?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: LuaJIT FFI can probably do goto
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Well, in this case, I want to check if something exists.  If it doesn't exist, then create the item and then follow along with the rest of the code.  If it does exist, just execute the rest of the code.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: if/then perhaps? o.0
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish enthusiastically high-fives Vakieh!
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if not foo then foo = {} end
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the rest of the code is a function/module...if exists, call it...if doesn't exist, do this then call it
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Don't be silly.  If is just a crutch for people who can't hack jne.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The really funny part is you use if/then when you describe the problem :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: using goto just for that would be a hilariously overcomplicated misuse
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I am yet to see a use of goto justified - break and continue, sometimes, but never goto
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: goto works well for certain state machines
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Yeah, I woke up like an hour ago.  I probably shouldn't be coding anything within an hour or so of waking up.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it's never the only way
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eiasu Tech: it's actually been proven that goto isn't necessary
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Etzli nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: It's easy enough to prove that you always _can_ avoid using goto.  It's not too hard to demonstrate times that you'd be an idiot to do so though.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Break and continue are never necessary either, but they do skip over code faster - optimisation can be important
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing is necessary, but that doesn't preclude it from being a valid tool for the job...
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: I think my mind was thinking, "Hey, it's going to break the script without a goto in it!  What are you thinking!?! :p
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: c++ isn't necessary...could just write it in assembly.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatzy Madcatz nods quietly to himself.  What a wacko.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why spend 2 minutes debugging when 2 hours is more manly, right.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ten years later, Windows XP still dominates the Web. (money.cnn.com)
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And BSD is fighting Linux for control of the phone market.
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: is there a way to expand an alias in the command line?  like tab in zmud
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: this is in mush btw
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the desired outcome?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: type in an alias like qheal would quaf rum.  After hitting tab in zmud, "qheal" would expand to "quaf rum" in the command line
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i would like to see the send contents of the alias in the command line
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah. interesting. let me look into it
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: if someone posts a script online how do I save it to my computer as a script?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: save to a text file
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it a plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: save the contents to a file named something_something.xml
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then load it as a plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: right but what program saves as xml?  wordpad says they do but its docx
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: save as .txt and then change it if you have to
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: woop thanks fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: anyone have input on a new notebook?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: keyboard
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: monitor
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, that's output
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have five inputs on my new notebook
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: touchscreen monitor?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Bah, I'm too slow
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: pen, wife, 3 kids?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: hmm
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone have a level timer script or know where I can find one
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: client?
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: bast has one
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: for mush
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thankee
T3/r5/2012-01-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: np
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: does basts plugin pack include a timer for cps?  So ya know how long it took ya to complete afterwards
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I cant get the pack to work
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the statdb plugin keeps track of stuff like that
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: statdb keeps track of "milestone" events, and anything that happens between them
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Hmm.  Get errors when I load most of his plugins...  Unable to create the plugin save state file
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can anyone tell me why the MSI 580 cards go for ~$580, while the better performing Radeon 6950 is going for $270?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: imperfect information
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I was recommended to get an MSI 560 Twin Frozr II, going for $270, but it is scoring a 27 to the Radeon's 101
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And when you say imperfect information, is that on the part of the consumer paying too much for the 580, or the benchmarkers doing it wrong?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sigh...mushclient and your mem leaks :-( 5 days and 500meg
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone use basts broadcast plugins for aardmush?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: If I wanted to "parse" JSON using sed or awk, how could I do it?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I really just want to dump two fields out of a string...
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hang on, I'll throw everything into OpenOffice :S
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lallaon Tech: or you can use regexp + egrep
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, openoffice had a line limit.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Lallaon: how so?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: anyone using latest mushclient v4.80?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is what is being used for the Beta.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: Anyone know anything about adding a external harddrive to make a non-dvr reciever, dvr capable?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: nm, I found something
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If I have two monitors, would I be able to use DVI on one and HDMI on the other at the same time?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (computer)
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Sure, why not.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: speaking of two monitors, how does one set that up?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei thanks Horizontal HyPo heartily.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Depends on your operating system.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: windows
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: The setup, that is.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: It's easy, just rock it in the monitor settings.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: really, how do you hook them up to the computer?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: It gives you big numbered graphical representations and all that.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: You need two video outputs.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: ah, I suppose not having that would be a problem
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Or a splitter, if you were just looking to mirror it off one output.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Aye. Two seperate independantly working monitors requires two outputs.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Independent* :P
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: ok, so if you didn't do it that way when you maximized something it would take up both screens I suppose?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: It makes a big difference in productivity, better than having one giant monitor i think :)
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maximize depends on window manager
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: You can get ultramon to help manage them
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: I really only wanted two screens so I could mud and watch porn at the same time
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I use displayfusion to manage two monitors, it's free and awesome!
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually maximize works in area of single monitor, unless you use other manage program (liku ultramon, multimon)
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: ok, so with a splitter I could run two screens and have porn on one and aard on the other?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, you need dual output graphics card
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: splitter only mirrors image
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, consider choosing card with more than 2 outputs (if you plan to use it at work)
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: what do video cards like that usually run?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: You'd have a terrible time buying anything from the past few generations that didn't support multiple outs.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: so assuming mine does, I'd just have to install another output?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just check what outputs your video card have
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I musted mush in win7 volume mixer last night, so that my audio triggers wouldn't wake me up.  Today the program has dissapeared from the volume mixer, anyone have any suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anadorr Tech: anyone got adWords coupon they're willing to share? :)
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: anyone know of a trigger script and/or plugin I could get which would make my task bar icon flash when I receive a tell?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Hmm, loaded some of basts plugins, now the mapper is missing its cexits
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know how to emulate parted magic's desktop so that gkrellm appears built in?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: into the desktop i mean
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Reloaded mush, not sure what I missed in chat... got a bunch of "unable to create the plugin save state file:" errors, but the mapper seems to be working
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you running vista or windows 7?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: no, openbsd with kde 3.5 gnome 2 something and icewm
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, meant that for decrept
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unable to create state file errors usually means you put it in a folder you don't have full access to
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Bast if that was for me, i'm using 7.  Mush is saved to the desktop atm
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: move it to c:\games or something
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decrept nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: guys, i keep getting a periodic echo to my stdio 'You have new mail in /var/mail/vampyr 
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how do i disable that message?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Change it's STDERR to a log command.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: how do i find out which file to edit to alter that stderr?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Hmm, can we call mapper commands in an alias?  
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: send to execute instead of world
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as long as you either send to execute or send to script and use the Execute function
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Figured I was missing something, and that it was obvious and stupid 
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: have a few basics questions about that... I assume sending to world sends the command to the server, execute handles it as if I was typing it, handled by the various client scripts and aliases?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: execute is as if you were typing
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to script is to process through the current script engine
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you can arbitrarily Send() and Execute() things from inside the script
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: yeah, wasn't happy with the wording... Thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: I know you can turn on triggers and timers via alias, whats the syntax or where can I find out how to do that?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/doc.php
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: http://www.mushclient.com/scripts/function.php
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably "EnableTrigger"
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: Fiendish, my link is way much better than yours :P
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah it is
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude wonders whose pie is better.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mine is more general
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: both work, one gets me what I need, the other answers questions I may have otherwise asked a couple hours from now :P
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: anyone know a good primer on how to reduce large sparse file space 's space?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google how does compression work
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: it just gives me images of docking :(
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish can i compress an entire e-ntfs filesystem?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can in fact compress a file system
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: (including one using ntfs encoding? )
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and it may increase your overall performance if you have sufficient free ram/cpu
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: A la Squashfs?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i have lots of free ram. yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: hehe
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: trurien i dont think squashfs works on windows 7
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your cpu is probably fast enough to be idle most of the time, so compressing your file system actually seems like a good way to get faster throughput assuming your disk controller doesn't already do it
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my SSD firmware actually does compression automatically
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish i know it doesnt do it at a software level.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sata here =(
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's handled by a chip on the drive itself
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I hate your pretitle
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: tbh ssd made me feel a little paranoid since its harder to 'erase' things
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nothing to do with my computer
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: secure erase is very secure
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: arystul i was actually thinking of changing it.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish i thought the wafers used in flash memory were not overwritten in place the way magnetic storage media were
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm pretty sure that compression is a checkbox option on ntfs volumes in windows
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So how often is the FS compressed/decompressed?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: just don:) you are perfect :)
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kardon Tech: it is an option
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I recall doing Compressed Discs on Windows ME, and regretting it.  How times have changed.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish yes it offers' compress this filesystem to save space' but its still a large sparse filesystem
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: idk, but ill start reading more on compressions - EOC!
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you want to compact free space on the fly?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude tries valiantly to bring the conversation to an end.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: is there a better way to setup the mapper for doors than doing cexits to open every individual door?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Passdoor wish will help a lot.  You could probably make a trigger for doors, but haven't done it myself.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a trigger won't help
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Alias 'md *' to 'mapper cexit open %1;;%1' Then type 'md n' to make a north cexit
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Although if you're doing a goto, a trigger won't help
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what vakieh just said is what I do
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decrept nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: building the concept of "doors" into the mapper would require a significant change to the database, and the end result is already handled by cexits
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: every time I try to alias a mapper command, it doesn't work
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it sends the command, but the mud interperts it directly
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: send to execute
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be sure to 'send to execute' for plugin aliases
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Problem I'm having is that for the first mort I came back I didn't actually use the mapper.  It just mapped, and I walked places like I had years before.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You have to send it to execute or send to script and "Execute("command")
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: thanks :) just shaved a lot of time off my GQs ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Couldn't you just make a trigger that opens in all directions when it comes across a locked door and then does a mapper resume?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only if the run you were on before didn't bounce and take you away from the door
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm good to know.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Last mort I figured out how to actually use the mapper, and started to get it setup.  Had I been smart, i would have reset it... but now I have runs ending in funny locations because of a closed door.  Was hoping for a more effient way to clean up my mess, heh  
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have what?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: any cexit you make will override the equivalent movement exit
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so if you have something that goes "w" through a closed door, a cexit made later of "open west;west" will be used instead
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It won't fix incorrect cexits however
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Yeah, there's just a large amount of missing doors, and sometimes its annoying finding out where the door was missed
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't even know how you'd get incorrect cexits
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Those need to be 'mapper delete cexits'ed
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Moving when it tells you not too?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess so
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: and I've done incorrect cexits by making newbie mistakes, like moving too soon :P
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the mapper doesn't detect doors if you didn't realise
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I might actually modify mine to eat all input until it is finished
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mapper doesn't detect doors because the mud doesn't send door information
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish looks at Vakieh ponderingly.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but then you can't talk?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Good ponder, or 'you're an idjit' ponder (might make an exception for channel messages)
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just thinking about how it would have to work
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: gag order for a couple seconds would be worth not making invalid cexits, imo
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Granted I have avoided longer cexits so far... with those it may be annoying
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: best solution would be for exits to come through with gmcp room info.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: exits meaning door exits
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A lot of those are aq related, and thus hidden
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah those I think you should always have to do manually.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: again, this isn't 'that' much of an issue, if you start adding cexits for doors from the beginning.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It kindof is, because the door cexits need to be 2-way
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And if you start from the beginning, you'll have a lot of unneeded cexits once you get passdoor wish.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: No way to avoid that of course.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: True, but even then its generally more minor, coming into effect generally when you get a area reset in the middle of running through an area
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The xyl corridors are a pita for that sort of thing
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case, I've specifically avoided making doors special because cexits already solve the problem
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Decrept nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: So bast, with your plugin pack... do i need to add all of them to mush if I only want a few features, or just have all of them in the folder?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: leave them in the same places they come in, but only load the ones you want
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Thats what I assumed, wanted to make sure
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: So I'm trying to pinpoint the problem that started me asking about a quicker way to fix doors not being set as cexits...
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yeah?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: There's an area in descent to hell that the runto misses 2 runs south, but there's no cexit or anything funny I can see in the rooms where it bugs out
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: I'm in the icecreamery, exits are w,s,e.  If I click on the room blackened hall I run e, w, instead of e,s,s,w
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what does 'mapper cexits here' say?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: 15 exits, doors
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: open x
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Any of the affected rooms in the cexit?  I'd try clearing just the cexits in that room and recreating.  You might have accidently moved a few rooms?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Nope
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Actually, yes... was looking at the rooms through, not the one I was starting in.  Thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nice that fix it?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Yeah, removed the exit. yet another stupid mistake, heh
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Happens to the best of us!
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: t0 is decent?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Robar Tech: 'ello there. I was wondering if I can remove channel messages frmo the main text window, so that they only appear in teh communication log?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right-click on the communication log
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: right click the log window
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: Should i have the 'compress files to save disk space' box checked on my hard drive?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: or, is there a downside?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Compressed files take longer to load
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Compress long term storage, keep often-accessed stuff uncompressed
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Setwanted Snewb Tech: ok, cool, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Partitions work well here
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: compressed files may actually take less time to load if they compress well
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because your disk is much slower than your cpu
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: my hands are slower than my cpu too =(
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the compress files to save space option looks at how long it's been since the file was accessed...but disk space is so cheap I'd get another drive instead of using the option
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc, are you compressing a larse sparse filesystem?
T3/r5/2012-01-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I'm suggesting to not compress on a filesystem basis
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hi, i get this error message, is it normal/safe?   cp: Xxx/Downloads/XXX.rar: Argument list too long
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc oh. ok. i was just trying to 'backup' to an 'image file' but i dont need the sparseness
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: any Mac/Safari users here?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i'm a recovering safari user.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: sup?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: is there anyway to prevent force-reloading of pages
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: me
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: it gets annoying
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what do you mean?  and which browser?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: What do you mean force reloading?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Safari
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i use firefox, sorry.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I get the "webpages are not responding... force-reload blahblah" 
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: try googling it?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: Yeah, cant seem to find anything except for gripes :p
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: email macworld.. they like to solve those kinds of things.  :p
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: sounds like a good idea :p
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: for the record, I used to use Firefox, then switched to Chrome, but back on SAfari now
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: seems like its the faster of the 3 browsers
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i like firefox, it makes me feel like i dont have to use any security because it allows so many exploits
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sneak if you want fast... try lynx
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: you have to be mildly retarded to be exposed to exploits on a Mac
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sneak thats not true at all.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: someone has to be mildly retarded to want to exploit a mac.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 8 years, 0 issues
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sneak, i didnt even get miranda =(
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 0 kernel panics too.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to work for miranda
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what about video card failures.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 0 video card failures
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: although Apple did replace my video card as a precaution
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what about melted keyboard usb ports?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: last year.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: what the hell are you talking about?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: 0 issues/problems, from 4 Mac machines.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: what about singed hair in your keyboard?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: sneak, nice.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: you're above average.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i switched in oct 08, also zero issues.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: statistical outlier ....
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sneak beams with pride at Siren Cera.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Siren Cera.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I think it's quite incredible that my 4 year old MBP still has full battery life
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: thats not so interesting to me. most macbooks arent even flavored
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I want a macbook (pro or air) but I cant see spending a grand (or more) so I can aard from the couch.  :p
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: cera why not just wait a few years and get one used?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: much like hondas, you can find used macs
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i drive a honda...  hmm....
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I just got a new i7 MacBook Air during the New Year sale :)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just buy a decent HP or Samsung laptop, run windows, and keep the hair you would otherwise lose from using a mac?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: No thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: vakieh, me i would get a mac, then put an alternate operating system on =)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: I got one for my gf and I w/ the amazon kindle 20% coupon, but resold mine for its cash value!
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: windoze makes me pull out my hair, mac does not.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: macosx is less headache to me than win7
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: cera but then you could also aard from the toilet 
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: elchanan if she ordered chinese she could sit there forever
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yep we just killed the tech channel
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: elchanan don't feel bad, techs have to eat too
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: fiendish, by the way, you know much about swapfile / kernel vm paging encryption?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: hey if i want to use bzip2 to copy a file from one machine to another, but want the remote ssh host's cpu to do most of the work, what's an example syntax of what to type?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: if im logged in from the destination machine, ?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the remote host's cpu is doing the work, then it's not being transferred bzipped...
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: its not?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how would it know what to process?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: machine A has the file and sshd.  machine B has the disk space and my shell
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: and i connect to machine a via ssh
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so i'm now logged into a shell on machine a yes? and i want to bzip and send the file without using diskspace of machine a
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: think about it, step by step...
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: so it is bzipped using machine a's cpu, and sent bzipped, to machine b where i also am
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm confused how it's hard to do..
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude is right.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ssh name@host | zip foo bar
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: i basically think i should use bzip2 to stdio and pipe that to scp maybe?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I never use bzip, so I'm not sure of its sntax
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: uncompressed file over here...without compressing it here, how do I send it compressed to there?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: no i want to compress it here.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: he wants it to "stream" the compression to the other computer
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i think
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: riddim yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't compress it here when you're over there
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: zip foo bar && scp file name@host
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to use the remote machine's CPU for compression, you absolutely must be sending it uncompressed...
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh my god.  put it on a zip drive and walk it over.  :p
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ok, I'm so lost as to what he's trying to do then.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: the file is on a machine A  i want machine A's cpu to do the work
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera grins mischievously.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: then do what i just said
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: cera i cant, my zip drive isnt showing up in kernel
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: cheezburger k. && scp got it
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude will brb.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the file is on the machine you want to use the cpu, then it's not the remote machine :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: zip -19m file file.zip && scp file.zip name@host
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: abelinc its the machine that is physically extant from me
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: cheez i was hoping to do it without making an extra file, like riddim said, can i do it with  "   |    " ?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: then add a && rm -rf ./*.zip at the end
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If you're sending it compressed as a stream you cannot send it directly to the remote machine
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You can send the file and use scp's compression protocol, though
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, just do scp -C
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i use Bast's plugins for MUSH, and I recently upgraded my client and reinstalled all my plugins.... (not)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (cont)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i used to get a line with details like elasped time and other info after a quest, cp, qp, and level.  they arent there anymore, anyone know what I need to do to get htem back?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: hey are any of you hardwar techs as well?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sagacious Witblitz Tech: hardware heh
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syl Tech: anyone know how to make mushclient stop echoing every time I say something on a channel?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: chats echo off
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syl Tech: {chan ch=gtell}(Group) Syl: 'test'
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Syl Tech: it's still there
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: why are all the phone jailbreaking utilities for windows =( omg
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Friend) VampireDude guesses he can't brick his phone after all, sigh.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Friend) VampireDude Tech: meh, i guess there's no rush since there's no alternate operating system for the phone
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vamtrix Tech: having a problem each time i close MUSHclient
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vamtrix Tech: i don't know what i'm supposed to do, i only have one window, it reverts back to this every time i close the client, and i can't get it to go back the way it was
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Where have you unzipped the aardclient to?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vamtrix Tech: it's own folder
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: just to make sure, is it in a write protected location? have you tried running it as administrator?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vamtrix Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harthogg Tech: I have a blue bar that says "Paging:" and it often makes me have to type stuff twice. How do I get it off?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You can change your paging size in the options
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Help pagesize will give you your options
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lady Elyce Tech: is there a built in hotkey to disable triggers in mushclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: what's wrong with this syntax for the spellup plugin? bsp other fast someone
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Should be 'bsp other someone fast' I think
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: yeah that works. ty... help file doesn't help with syntax at all :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: I had the same problem, I've got it as an alias now
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: why am i getting personal messages from ivar about mafia games which I couldn't care less about?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well you should care
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Because you are subscribed to the board?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: no, i unsubscribed it earlier
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: nevermind :)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyone know how to use Bast's channel reporting features?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mitt romney, ron paul, and newt gingrich look the most sensible 3
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kratos Tech: Im looking for a compiler for windows xp, im am trying to learn C++. I downloaded visual studios but it really sucked imo. Anyone know of a up to date or a program they use that could help me?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: try the eclipse compiler
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: visual c++ is imo, as a professional c++ developer, the best IDE there is
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: dev-bloodshed isn't bad.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one thing you want to do, though, is install STLFilt
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to decrypt those obnoxiously hard to read STL error messages
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.bdsoft.com/tools/stlfilt.html
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You like C# Fiendish?  Never did Visual C++, but did C++ way back when.  If I wanted to brush up is one better?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i've never tried c#
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: C# is nice, but the edges are still a bit rough
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How so Vakieh?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I avoided C# for the longest time because of its windows dependancy, but since learning it for a class at school, I find it to be a very beautiful language.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is there a Visual Lua?  Yet I'm half joking.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Eclipse has a lua add-on
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Visual, no, but IDE yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Open source for it is still quite light, it is less well thought of for business applications, etc
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It will get there, though
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there was a neat Lua IDE called Brain Damage, once, that was pretty close to something you might call visual lua
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it died
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Funding?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lack of interest
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ahh
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Lua did have a pretty rough start, it's making a name for itself as of late though
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Eclipse always seems like overkill to me.  All I want is syntax highlighting and jumping to functions.  Notepad++ gives me half of that.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Eclipse is a hell of a lot more informative for errors than the standard error output for most languages.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: eclipse's support for c++ was always pretty crappy compared to how well it does java
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Never used eclipse for c++
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Eclipse is made in Jav right?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: a
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Always just used the dev-bloodshed. Free, semi-lightweight, all i needed
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Made in C iirc.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: visual c++ express is also free
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use dreamspark for Visual
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I got visual studio's complete package through my school.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Pretty sure Eclipse is coded in Java. Opened the source of Eclipse within Eclipse once... mind explosion :)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I wrote you a java app, to open java apps, so that you can java app inside your java app.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth boggles at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Javception
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger enthusiastically high-fives Vakieh!
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: used to freak me out - how I actually got interested in programmign was trying to answer that question.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How the heck do you program a program without a program?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Mudding is why i started programming.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: binary
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wires
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Punch cards
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, mechanical computers
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I figured it out eventually - just recall thinking about it in 5th grade and not starting to find the answer until like 3 or 4 grades later.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: There are only 10 types of people in this world. People who understand binary, and those that don't.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thats only 2
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You're the second type, havoks
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: haw haw haw
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: dont you use that joke like once a month?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: unit I'm studying atm (or at least *should* be studying :D) is on the makeup of a CPU/ALU...mind is swimming in transistors and pipelining :-(
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Enginerring major?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: engineering*
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: vakieh: don't worry. as soon as you leave that class everything you learned there will quickly become useless
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's all classes, Fiend
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not true
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: General IT undergrad - probably gonna specialise in HCI
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just hardware architecture courses
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: except math...hasn't changed much in the last 100 years
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Except the other day i needed to do a slope formula and i was sitting there going "I really wish i retained something from algebra"
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Needing to work out the difference between Hyperthreading, pipelining, multithreading and multitasking near sent me insane :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hyperthreading is just using both clock uptick/downtick to fake two cores
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aiui
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and it never actually worked out as well as intel hoped
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: better to just have another core :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My work uses it a LOT for photo rendering, to save costs on cores
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i remember the original hyperthreading implementation actually made everything much slower
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i am holding out for quantum computers 
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it'll happen in our lifetime joethered
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Joe: It's coming, but you'll still be ancient before it finds its way into home computing :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the way the i7 uses hyperthreading is exceptional - it needs a combined CPU/Northbridge to have any major effect
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Will it make my Aard Mush faster?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the P4 hyperthreading model was a huge fiasco
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: we keep getting closer and i think the pieces are almost all there
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The discovery of quantum entanglement was a huge leap in theoretical quantum computing.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The problem with such fast computers is the software is lagging SOOOooooo far behind
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Still not replecatably though
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The lag between multi-core hardware and multi-core software is embarrassing
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: When our grandchildren are enslaved to computers, they'll remember us so fondly as they curse loudly :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i worry that my students are not learning well enough so that when they are old enough to learn programming they will not have the foundation to be any good at it
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: l
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My brother (11) is at school now, they are using programming tools like Alice to teach the concepts as young as primary school - 'tis awesome
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I started teaching myself programming at age 10, because I went to a school with a graduating class of 35 students, not exactly the techiest place on earth.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Alice is a nice system. As is Scratch
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I wish I knew about alice at 11. I finally discovered it at like 16 or 17 when i started construction on my own chat bot.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That's good - in high scool I took AP C or whatever, taught by a math teacher who did not know C.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: THe LAN warcraft was sweet though!
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i don't see that desire with my area...more into sports than learning how to make computers sing...
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: LAN connection warcraft III ftw :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Glad they finally fixxed that
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: my programming teacher told me i wasnt allowed to use if statements until the 4th week of classes
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: (visual basic)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh, just use while statments then :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I got that same brother interested in computing playing LAN Warcraft III tower defense :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it's an if statement, but it isn't :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Or put in some assembly code
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i have had programming teachers that could make some stuff work but couldn't explain why it worked...not good for people like me
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i kind of gave up on the class because she taught out of the textbook too strictly, in the sense that she didn't understand the material properly herself so you couldn't do an equivalent, but still correct, solution
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, one of my college teachers teaching c# didn't know programming at all, so he basically read someone else's powerpoints to us.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Learning from people who know less than the textbook makes me very sad :-(
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's usually easier for me to learn from book and do side projects anyways.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Agreed
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Had to learn Requirements Gathering from someone who it seems read the textbook in an hour and decided to teach it...
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Give me some sample code and a compiler and I'll do fine, explain it to my word of mouth style, i'll learn nothing
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i mostly take classes now to have some pointers and teach myself if i want to learn.  with the internet it is easier to learn than when i was in college
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: KHAAAAAAAAN! :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: google + <language> tutorial + <ENTER> == learn
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.khanacademy.org/#computer-science
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Really the only concept i had a hard time picking up was pointers in c++. Until I actually had to use them, they made no sense to me.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Pointer arithmetic...ugh
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Discovering what the [ ] were for arrays was pretty cool though
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah Had to take assembly for my minor in COmp Sci - so really really understood the pointers then.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: that is awesome
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: They make perfect sense to me now, but when I started out I was SOOOO lost.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Heh...my minor is Econ :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: my major is CIS with a minor in EET
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i am math/chemistry and i teach high school and at a cc
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you leave off a L?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Electrical Engineering...Tarantula?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: No I think he meant LEET!
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Technician :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: menda: it's spelled 1337
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm no hacker!!! :P
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: h4x0R *
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger forthwith imparts the construct of his l33t 0wn3rsh!p of Mendaloth. 
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: is a 3g connection better than g?
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's 3 as many gs!
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: That's not technically true, if you're american.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: But yes it is faster.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: Well it depends on who is using the terminology.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: hmmm...
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: If your cell provider uses it, it's most likely incorrectly labelled.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thats interesting
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: But for all intents and purposes it is 3g.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: Technically all g stands for is generation. So 3g is accurate.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: But from data speeds our 4g is more like 3g.
T3/r5/2012-01-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: (If you're from the US)
T3/r5/2012-01-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: mapper knows that I am a tier and can use portals accordingly. that is effing sweet.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible to delete an exit in mapper? i want the mapper take longer route. the shorter has on locked door
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: delete permanently
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: atm it will add exit as soon as i reneter the room
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: easy way is to set a level lock
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the exit and give it a level lock of 202, if it'll allow that
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: make it 300
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh good, wasn't sure if it let you go over 201
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: thanx
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mhhhh, how to i add level lock? right click doesnt give this option
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: right click on room.. change exit level lock option
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: i have a variable in mush which i want to use to change aliases which represents different paths, can someone help me with that please?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: works nice on paths you want to avoid like the aggro bar in masq :p
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: that's the thing. i don't have this option
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Update mushclient then
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: maybe update your mush.. finger fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you gotta right-click on the FROM room, not on the TO room
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: anyone?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what's the latest build? 1126 ?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I am on 1335 and I am WAY behind
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: that's what i get from the aardmud.org
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: I watch every real housewives religiously.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: mt.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, aard's site only updates a couple times a year...fiendish does updates very often
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You comfort him.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, good to know. 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i noticed it while ago, thought noone isn't developing aardmush anymore
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it's HIGHLY active development
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: i have a variable in mush which i want to use to change aliases which represents different paths, can someone help me with that please?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what type of application you're looking for...since you're changing the variable, why not just change the alias instead?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for paths, the mapper already handles those, unless your aliases are doing mapper goto x
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: im trying to go to the next room using just 1 alias and a variable to change the paths
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: and the path is an alias again
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: somehow my custom lua script is not working in the new release
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "somehow"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: how do i assign a new value to a variable inside an alias?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: You can make an alias to send to a variable
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: Or you can manually change the variable..
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: but i have other commands in the alias
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: anyone have other ideas on how to change a variable inside an alias or a trigger?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: with a script
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: By default, all Lua script variables are global. So you can just assign something to a name and then use in another place.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adrym Tech: i want to assign a new value to a variable every time i hit an alias, i did that some time ago and now i cant remember how :(
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=SetVariable
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Adrym: SetVariable
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh, cizra said it already
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Masochist Tech: how do i make the main window big so i dont see any other open windows in MUSHclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it possible to delete a room from mapper by its id?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lallaon Tech: after a successfully gmcp negotiation I have to wait for be logged to send Core.Supports.Set command?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lallaon Tech: logged in*
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fadekiller Tech: how do i find out what version of mushclient i am using?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: type 'checkversion'
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fadekiller Tech: unknown comman
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In that case a REALLY old one :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fadekiller Tech: i just downloaded the one off of the aardwolf website, and this is what i got
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: finger fiendish for the latest
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dyro Tech: goto help>about
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: did you download it back in the 80s?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dyro Tech: but if you have the latest from aard, the checkversion should work
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fadekiller Tech: i downloaded it yesterday from the aardwolf website
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: help->about shows the main mush version, not the package version
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fadekiller Tech: ill just redo using fiendishs, ty
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dyro Tech: I bought cmud once... funny how I prefer mush now
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i did the same thing
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Does anyone know what's different with zMud compression protocol? I wrote a program that does MCCP v1 and v2. Works fine on mushclient but zMud said compression error. I can't test myself I don't have zMud, a friend tested and said.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Nevermind, I'm stupid. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Working on updating my MUSH, having a problem with transferring my DB for the mapper. I think im using the DB file, can anyone confirm?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Much closed when copying?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Mush*
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: wrong* Used the DB_backups
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is that the file im suppose to copy and paste or is it a different one?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need Aardwolf.db
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh just stumbled on it thanks. So should I delete that DB_backup file I copied into the new Aard?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: keep it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: k thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: those are backups, 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: better you never need them, but if Aardwolf.db gets damaged then you still restore previous version
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Seemed to work thanks again ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Trying to import my alias/macros/etc... so I go to file Import, import from... what file do I import it from? Obviously my old MUSH folder, but where inside the folder?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if your version is relatively new.. you can jsut copy the aardwolf.mcl file usually
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is that in a subfolder past the 1st MUSHClient folder?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in \worlds\
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, I see it. Thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Since I have your attention. Actually back to working on adding S&D, my S&D copy is probably from about 3 months ago or so, would you advise getting a more current one
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: anyone familiar with Basts Spellups, trying to load it into a new client. Got the plugin in and working, but wanted to not have to add all the spells individually and disabled list etc..
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: TYpe bsp sadd all.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bsp help
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: THat'll add all the spellups.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyway to copy it from my old client. Thanks though, that is my next option :p
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh and Doink - i do recommend getting latest version of S&D.. though i've not updated it in a while.. i need to make another update to close all teh database holes that sometimes causes locks the the GMCP mapper plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're on bast's page, click wiki, expand bast's plugins, and check out the wiki page on the bast_spellup plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Cool, will do
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: look for my updates on teh tech board.. i will alwyas post updates there
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Really hate changing my client once I get it working.. been idling alot though. figured it was a good time to do it. Always run into a million problems from being a client noob :p
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: MUSHClient, how do I disable the F1 help macro, or enable the F1-F9 macros. Done it before just cant remmeber the location of the toggle?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: File->Global Preferences->General->F1,F6 are macros
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Perfect, thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Does S&D quick area runtos work with Manor and Clan hall exits?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: if you are referring to winkle's plugins i believe it uses mapper, so yes
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks, was taking me to the wrong room through a hall exit. Not sure why.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah it does.. but you ahve to add them as portals.. you ahve to add "home" as a poral too
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Is there a help window I can pull up?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for my stuff? type "ww help"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks, were you referring to adding them as a portal as in through the mapper?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: why do you have to add portals lol
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: he was asking about clan hall/manor exits
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i use fiendish's mapper to store all teh map info and get you there the fastest way 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i just read from it in new ways
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: so as long as mapper knows the route, it should work
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, its amazing how much faster it does searchs now. Before it would take ages to search for rooms at times.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: without mapping "home" as a protal  mapper doens't know how to get you home to use your manor exits
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Was just using a clan hall exit, was taking me to a different hall exit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: i guess that depends on where you are. but i suppose yes you will have to add portal if you want to use them from everywhere
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd check your clan portal is pointing at the right room if it's working wrong
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Was actually standing in the room the portal puts me in, within the hall.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is the room mappable?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If not, it'lln't work.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: maybe ill have  purge my clan hall
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh nod, mapper is not so hot in the hall, very mazey. Thats probably it.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there was a flag that could be added to clan halls to make the GMCP room data show if you where a meember of that clan .. makes mapper playa  lot nicer in your own clan hall
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Added as in, when building the hall rooms?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Clan leaders can change this even after building.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh nice, anyone recall which flag it is?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah.. I had a noticed when i joined my clan that it wouldn't work and it resulted in fiendish changing the way his mapper works and lasher adding a clan builder's flag.. it's a nice flag.. 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: adn fiendish rocks
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it was added about 4 motnsh ago
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe 6
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nice, is it called a clan builder's flag?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: no.. i dont' know the name.. i'm a lowbie in my clan.. wasn't inviolved int eh implementation
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh nod, same :) Ill find out. Thanks for all the info.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: i tried aardmushclient for a awhile and went back to my zmud but now i have this {chan ch= etc etc on my zmund now
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags channels off
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: how about the map end map starts?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type tags and turn the ones off you don't need
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: mush client turned them on?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes, many of the plugins use them
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: i see thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Looking at the mappers help section, seems you can add notes to a room?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you sure cna baby.. it's incredibly useful
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just click on map
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh so simple, just edit the note for the room. Same way to read the note?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even easier, just move mouse over room with note
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you're using my stuff you can type "rn" or "rn a" for clickable links to those rooms
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: clickable runto to the note room?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yep
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Think thats why I never noticed the note thing, until adding S&D pack^^
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: So whats the difference between rn and rn a. Also where do I find all these nice commands? Been looking over ww help, and it doesnt seem to show that one.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: rn = this room.. rn a is all rooms in area
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: rn = this room note, rn a = all notes in area
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle enthusiastically high-fives Trachx!
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Feel bad... got another one. Is there a prefix or something for the command rn?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I use rn a <area name> if I need to check before going to the area :)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i forgot you could do that
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: So If I want to enter in, say the glamdursil portal. I stand in the room the portal takes me to. Mapper portal <alias to get and use portal>
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have a page in my wiki that talks about all that.. type extender help for the link
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks, think I need it :)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: last line
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Got another question, looking at the wiki mapper help page. The very end when it talks about making an alias for a portal. Can we just make the alias like normal, with alt+enter > alias?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: definitely
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: cool, thanks. Gonna work on it ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i think i posted a sample on there
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: So in glamdursils case, since the portal doesnt take you to the very 1st room of the area, in order for xrt to work, you need to set the 1st room as the portal room?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yes.. using "xset mark"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Very nice, thanks again.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: The portal bypasses the unflagged clan hall ^^ Any other tips to work around the clan hall problem, other then leaving the hall prior to hitting an xrt?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: set up cexits or fake portals to get you through each clan exit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is what i did prior to the flag
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thanks, think you could be a bit more descriptive. Cexit the directions out of the hall and into the hall exits, each movement?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make a cexit from a room with a UID that will chain teh directions to get you to the first room throu the clan exit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Starting to get it to work :)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: was a pain, becuse the hall portal room has no ID, had to change the alias to move me to an id room, then cexit from there
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Got a RUn-time error on a mapper portal, for darklight. Any idea, what went wrong?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so this winkle search and destroy is killing me
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: how so
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is ther esomething i need to do to activate mapper portals?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Will it move out of a no portal room for you?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: only add tehm properly with "mapper portal"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: using the xrt command
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: anyone have a problem with the S&D script disconecting you when you restart your client. as it starts to Indexing area levels? Think it has something to do with to much spam to fast?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've not encountered it yet... but there may be so many areas streaming, that your client disconnects
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i don't know where to change teh setting.. but you should be able to change the auto disconnect threshold in mush
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ya, I think thats what is going on. I had an alias that was to huge, that would do it as well. Thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm wondering why it's happening for you.. i've not seen it before
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Maybe because im special..... ed :p
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: My net is pretty craptastic, but it didnt disconect me from my net, only aard.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so if there is a webdirectory with no default file <index.###> so it shows up with the index/of/structure - what would be the best way to download that directory and subcontents?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: know a good app for it :)?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: wget
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: wget -rlU Mozilla http://www.foo.com/bar ./website/
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: so what is a fast way to dissable triggers if i have to go away for a little bit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: log out?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or botOff?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ctrl_shift_8, unckeck enable triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry im not helpful today
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: got it dont wanna have to log out to change a diaper
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you could potentially set up an alias to toggle the setting Cheezburger has indicated for you
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on while I find the relevant link
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just now getting into aliases
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i made one for my spellup, but have trigges set up for when the expire, and if i am away that would be cosidered not a good thing
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: I'm pretty much expert with Zmud, but Mush client is way dif.. trying to get used to it b/c I love the aard client
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=9146
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: spelling up is not against the botting rules.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kryket is agreeing with that Unavowed person again...
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: you can bot spellups to your hearts content
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it's an example of a type of bot that's legal on Aard.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: basically make an alias that sends to script and have it disable all triggers by doing SetOption("enable_triggers", 0)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I never turn off my spellup script
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: cant be in non quiet rooms afk with spellup bot
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but spellup scripts are specifically allowed to run continuously under 'help botting' rules
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: then dont mind afformentioned concern with botting then lol
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but in case you have a desire to disable other kinds of triggers, see what I said above
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nope atm i only have spellup triggers, i could not get the gammon spellup script to work
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: it messed up everything when i installed it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: sure i did something wrong though
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't use gammon's spellup script. it's very old.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Bast's is much newer
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I'm using Winkle's, and had fewer problems with it than Bast's plugins.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or that
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: so google basts stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use Bast's and have no problems with it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just finger him
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i heard that zmud is not cmud
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zmud and cmud are only barely compatible
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: many scripts from zmud don't work in cmud
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is it not cmud in the sense that the new Aardmush is not the old Aardmush.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but isnt c ziggs new one
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, zmud hasn't been updated in many years
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: including many bugs that never got fixed
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: only reason i ask is that when i used to mud many years ago thats what i used
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and was considering getting cmud 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: me too, until I switched to mushclient and ushered the world into a new utopian era
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i like mush cause its free lol
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and i like the interface so far
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a lot of people like that feature.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that is one of a lot of reasons why I like it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: I'm not an expert with the mush client but am in Zmud and it seems tht this arrdmush client is very nice and has the ability to pretty much do ANYTHING you could want in a mud client.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i love the spread of plugins...
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Nick Gammon is also very responsive and extremely helpful on the forums
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree friendish
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there is a huge dev base for mush
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: at least on THIS mud there is!
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have been back mudding just over a week and really likeing it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: wife doesnt see how this is considered a game though
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Fiendish's mapper is also teh bee knees
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ....no pictures i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't see how checkers is considered a game, but there you go
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is that the mapper it comes with
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: zmud and cmud do pictures.  The only real drawback is that Aard doesn't.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient can do pictures too, but yeah. aardwolf doesn't exactly have graphic sets
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: yeah, Lasher could make porn an extra donator perk
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: on the other hand, those two don't do drawing whereas I think Mush does (see: mapper)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well thanks for the info i gtg daughter is in need of assistance
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish waves goodbye to Lrynn.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ill have to check out that mapper and spellup script thankyou
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mapper is already included if you use the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just type 'mapper help'
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: who has the spellup script again
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: me and bast
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've aimed my for simplicity and bast's has every feature you could want
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Simplicity = spellup command. Options = spellup options. What do you want that isn't available mudside?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: partial spellups?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: For stats?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i see no use for partial spellups
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Just practice the ones you don't want to 74%, then alias a spellup to 75 100 so they don't hit, or something.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I do see a use.  Mostly one related to exploring areas below your combat range, like if you're doing a goal/AQ.  If all you need are the detect spells and utility spells like UB, Fly, and pass door, no sense in squandering mana on everything else.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lol squandering mana
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: yeah, better be careful since it's very difficult to regain mana
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I could see squandering time if you don't have the spellup wish
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, you can specify learned percentages on spellup.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There's definitely some point in blocking a few spells (say, antimagic shell or spells with long recoveries and short durations), even if you use them sometimes.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a 'spellup important' alias that does things like passdoor, champion's, wraith, etc
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: weird. did you know that pages come through gmcp as chan:tell?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think they show in tell history, too.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: doesn't help page say that it uses the tell system?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's strange
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I don't think it says that
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: either way, it's not so strange.  Not like there's any other way to remotely talk to someone else without every other eligible person seeing it.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: echoat?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: can someone send me the sharp tracker textfile? i can't seem to download it properly
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: for mushclient aardwolf version
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~taramai/
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: is there some type of command in mushclient such that I can have it repeat the last sent command
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: is there some type of command in mushclient such that I can have it repeat the last sent command
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: up + <enter>
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: as in setting up a trigger
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you just want to keep the last command on the input line?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: No I want to make a trigger that repeats the last command when I get a certain error message
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just send ! to the mud
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at Leinei.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: thx
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think there is a way in MUSH, though
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: that should work
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But that will probably work for what you're doing.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are several ways
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+R, for example, resends the last command
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you can script that
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because you can script menu options
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Send(GetInfo(87)) should also do it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does anyone here actually hear a beep when they get paged without setting up a trigger for it?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger shakes his head.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't in years, whenever I mention it others say it works :P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: what exactly does Send(GetInfo(87)) send? It seems to be trying to send recall even though that wasn't one of the recently typed commands
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: GetInfo(87) is your lcast command
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: last*
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Did you perhaps send / to the mud?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The mud expands / to recall.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it last sent or last input?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: oh I though that you needed // for a script
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: documentation is "last command sent to the mud"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you turn on echocommands, you can see exactly what it's sending
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see the documentation for GetInfo if that's not the right thing
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=GetInfo
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Anything after the / is ignored by the mud.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for a script?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: so if i send //foobardoobardoobiedoo, all the mud reads is 'recall'
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \\\ is the aardwolf mushclient package script prefix
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: // isn't the script prefix by default, though
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: That may be the most fun recall command... ever.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: // not \\
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So per the OP, try using \\\ instead of //
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: yeah no luck it's just sending it to the mud
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What are you sending verbatim?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: script prefixes only get used on the command line, btw
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or via alias/script if it's 'send to execute'
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah but that's a roundabout method. if this is inside a trigger or alias, you should be sending to script and then doing your scripty stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Agree, but people new to Mush aren't always aware of what the 'send to' actually implies.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So, OP: is this via command line, alias, trigger, what?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: it was via a trigger
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: don't use \\\ then
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just change the 'send to' dropdown to 'script'
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: send to script if you want to do script functions
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: I wanted a trigger such that if I was afk and typed a command, it would toggle off afk and then repeat the command
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Then to send something to the mud use Send() or Execute()
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger . o O ( or SendNoEcho() )
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: GetInfo(87) works for me
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Does MC have a OnUserInput event?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: lemme test
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cheezburger: only inside plugins, I think
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: But it does have that hook?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: If you're wanting to send something to execute, there's a command to do that, Zox.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes it does
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: SendSpecial, I believe, but that might be the wrong one
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That would be the best way to un-afk automatically, then.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Execute() sends to execute
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: Oh yeah.  that.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: hehe, i said that above MC :P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatzy Madcatz Tech: Sorry, doing 10 things at once :P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cheezburger: only if you keep track of your afk status
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Life of an imm :P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't really have to use the mudside afk system, just change a globalized variable and a reply trigger, IMO.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: ok so let's see
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: I set a trigger to the afk command error message
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or a trigger on You are now AFK: * and You are no longer AFK
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Sorry, "You are now in AFK mode." and "AFK mode removed. *"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: send to to script, and then in the trigger box I put Send(afk) and next line Send(GetInfo(87))
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: it just sends "nil" twice
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Send("afk")
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: unquoted afk is expanded to a variable, which is nil as nothing has been assigned to it.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: okay now it works except it sends afk twice, because afk was the last sent command
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What you showed SHOULD send afk twice
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: I agree
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: any suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: On what?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you might need to temporarily store GetInfo(87) into a local variable before sending afk
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then send the variable
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Where are you wanting to go from what you have now?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: that would work
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, ok
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: how would I store that to a temporary variable
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: tmp = GetInfo(87) Send("afk") Send(tmp)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: nice thx
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: k perfect
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone know if there is a quick way to disable some of the spam brought on by sharptracker script?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Opo's script?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: nod
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Man, haven't seen that in forever.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: it reports on skill gains etc, really don't want all that
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: heh im getting it for the first time :P
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I can't say for sure offhand, as it's been ages since I worked with him on that. IIRC, there was alot of Send() and SendNoEcho()'s throughout it, so the easiest way would be to comment (--) those out.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: how can I make a trigger work on a partial match like "You dream about *"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just like that?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Exactly as you just showed
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would do it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: * is the wildcard, which expands to %1-%99 respectively when called inside the body of the trigger.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can also use the more complicated but more expressive regular expressions
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: ah okay cool
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: regexp == more powerful, but uglier to look at without practice.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: didn't know if it was going to go searching for the asterisk
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Only if you did \* IIRC, would it look for a literal asterisk.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Plasti Dip ranks up there with duck tape
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: in case you guys didnt know
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plasti what?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Sealant/Adhesive type stuff?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is that like monkey dung?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: plasti dip = liquid rubber you can dip your tools into to add rubber handles etc
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: how heat resistant is it?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: not sure yet :)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how electrically resistive is it?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh, sounds like what i used to do in materials and processes class
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and is it just latex bodypaint for your tools?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes, pretty much, but people are using it in the spray form for rims/auto trim
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: saves on powder coating and appears to last a year with minimal wear
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If it meets those claims, not bad.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and people are coating the insides of RC cars and what not making them waterproof
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so it seals nicely
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: question on wireless...i have 2 lenovo laptops (different models), and both have excellent signal str but they both show different speeds (one states 1mbps and the other states 54mbps)...and both connect to a g router....I can't seem to find any major differences in settings, but the speed difference is notable...any suggestions how to fix?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do they both have g cards?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wifi performance is dependent on the quality of the signal being received
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: b tops out at about 10 Mbps, IIRC
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the G standard specifies that speed steps down in order to preserve connection if you get, for example, too far away
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Mbit/s, that is
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: also doesn't like cordless phones in the 2.4 Mhz range or blue tooth devices
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or hidden wireless cameras.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Found that out the hard way
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or microwaves
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or 2.4ghz wireless phones
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or tinfoil hats.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: both appear to be n
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey fiendish what was that spellup script you were talking about earlier
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you get an N router your signal will work much better because of multipath
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I use Bast's spellup. winklewinkle also has one
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but basts works better in your experience right?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast's works perfectly for me. I can't comment on better
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: signal is fine on one computer, both show that they have excellent signal str...hence my confusion and wondering about this new one i recently bought
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "signal strength" is not on its own a valid measurement
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you have a g router, a b reciever can actually slow down the speeds for all computers on the network.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But that doesn't sound like that's the issue, though
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Signal strength is really signal to noise ratio.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ...so we answer computer questions too...awesome lol
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tech is tech
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Putty: you might try forcing the slow computer to reconnect
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well if ya ever need tech help lemme know, i build pcs myself, kindoff a hobby of mine
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's why we have this channel
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nice
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: its 2nd night in a row, and i have tried connecting and reconnecting...both appear to be same adapter...*grumble*
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: dri
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: mischan
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well getting rdy to install that script, hope it works better than the last one
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: I installed bast's double mini window but it doesn't seem to be showing, I know that the plugin is enabled
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: is there a way I can figure out what is wrong with it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: wait until there is double to find out
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: it doesn't show until then
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: ah
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: what's it do?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: pops upa window with how much time is left on double
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: should see it now
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: got a screen full of orange text when i installed that plugin..
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: what's the advantage of using that over putting it in your prompt?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: not having it in your prompt
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: seems like it would just take up room for nothing...
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: it also shows in the miniwin tabwin so if you are running that it takes up no extra room
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ok undistalled spellup script not gonna mess with it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If I plug two things into a router, can I FTP between the two even if the router itself doesn't have any incoming internet connection?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Cool, thanks.  I need to buy a third ethernet cable one of these days
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only if the router also acts as a switch
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: correct
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: which 99.99% of all home routers do
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Although, come to think of it...if I have a crossover cable, do I even need the router?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or can I just connect the two computers via crossover cable and FTP through that?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, but if you use the router you will get IP adresses from it, if you use a crossover cable you will have to assign IPs manually
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hrm, I'll give it a shot with the router.  Might need the added cable length, anyways.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any way to tell if my ethernet is 100Mbit or gigabit?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look at it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the cables?  category 5e patch cable, they say
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the devices
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: To get gig speed you need a gig switch and a gig etherner card in your puter. Most ethernet cards are gig nowadays, so if your switch/router has gig ports it should be gig speed.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Now...wonder if my PS3 is 100Mbit or gigabit...
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: ps3 = gigabit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yep, it is
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: newbie -h 10
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: er sorry :)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: is there a way to have command kill command attack the mob without typing the name? 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: nope.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nope, not without area attack skills/spells
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: ok its been 10 yrs since i worked on building a mud
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: i can do the coding and running but i cant remember how to open the codebase for the life of me
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: oh ok, just wondering. thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: well "oh ok, just wondering. thanks" doesnt help me you stupid shit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: goodbye!
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: woahoho
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: watch your language and your attitude
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: watch your language...he wasn't even talking to you...
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: welcome to the mud *smirk
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Huh. How come Babbbb isn't nuked yet?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Someone who can't open the code shouldn't be calling other people stupid, imo.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: good point
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: lol calm down just giving yall shit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Well, to get that Lucida was talking to him from that context, he's gotta be pretty stupid anyways.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: language
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: my bad
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cursing is not allowed on this channel. clean up your language.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: sorry guys lol just how i talk 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not our problem
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: ill watch it
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: not for long
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: When I quit mush, somtimes it asks if I want to save some settings as I am exiting. Is saving when it asks to save to that the same as CTRL+S?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: just curious though whats the deal with the language restrictions nobody under the age of fucking 25 plays this kind of shit
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: Seriously, stop cursing on this channel.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Except you. You're 13.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Please stop.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: lol fuck you
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Babbbb Tech: nuke me pussies
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Etzli Tech: It doesn't matter what the age is of the people playing this game.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: seee yaaaa
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan screams out, "Oh My God!"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Or, you could just conclude this probably isn't the mud for you and leave on your own.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Like, you know, a grown up.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Etzli nods at Fnord.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hotcakes: hope you saw your answer in the middle of that outburst
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: Yes I did thank you.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: How does mush decide when to ask to save?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: (When exiting)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm...not entirely sure
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ^_^
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably any time something in your world file would change
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and/or state files, maybe
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any reason my FTPing might be topping out at under 50Mbit/s when everything seems like it should be making a gigabit connection?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: tech -h 10
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Are you sure it's Mbit and not Mbyte?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's like under 6 MByte/s
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Leinei: first there is transfer overhead, then there is the maximum spead you can write to disk
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and maximum spead you can read from disk. and protocol synchronization
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But that's like a 96% cut.  Seems excessive for overhead
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your network is probably not the real bottleneck here
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, that's sorta my question.  What might be?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: disk speed
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the OS, CPU or HDD, or just a bad application
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: id guess bad app
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or as Ranrr said, a bad ftp app that doesn't do caching and streaming well
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Fiendish are there topics you dont know about?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Question. Obviously this would take software modifications, but using thunderbolt on an i7 mac, could you use thunderbolt for RAM expansion?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just seems to me like none of those would have a limit as low as the ~5MB/s I'm getting.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Holliday: I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: "what is love?"
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Droki: I don't think the latency involved would be very good for that
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: RAM access times are measured typically in nanoseconds
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Thunderbolt's benchmarks are kind of scary
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure what the access latency for thunderbolt communication claims to be
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it's probably a long time compared to ram on your motherboard
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: write it down... he doesnt know
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What do you mean by Ram expansion?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I could look it up though ;)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Thunderbolt is 10 gb/s
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: high throughput doesn't necessarily mean low latency, though
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I mean plugging ram into the thunderbolt port on your mac, Ranrr :p
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: how do you use mapper to search for a specific room in a specific area?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: without being in that area
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Aha. 
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mapper area <roomname>
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 'mapper help' will show all the commands.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can use mapper showroom to fake being in an area
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Could you use it for swap?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: If you are really short on existing memory, then it could be better than using the disk
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: mapper area will only work if you are in that area holliday
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: yeah that was what i was guessing too. thanks for confirming fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: Sort of like Vista's Readyboost idea
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I know that thunderbolt can substitute as pci express expansion and be used for like, external video cards
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mapper find will search all areas.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I've left out a "find in area" function on purpose
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: hmm cause i think winkle managed to produce a similar effect in his plugins based on mapper
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, misread the question, my bad
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: readyboost kind of blows in practice though. but if thunderbolt could be used effectively to expand your ram slots: ooh.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: i was wondering how he did that. i will try the fakeroom thing. thanks! =)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's one of the many features I wrote the code for and decided against including
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I just don't know if it's physically possible yet (hardware, disregarding software that would need to be changed)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: yup. i can understand where you are coming from. sort of haha.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Droki: it's certainly an interesting idea
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Just glancing at Wikipedia, DDR3 memory can go from ~6-16 GB/s with 10-15 ns latency.  So, probably not ideal for memory.  But possibly a tier between ram and disk.  Might be interesting as a RAM disk.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Ideal for main memory, that is.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: And Thunderbolt is 10 Gb/s, so to compare, that's actually 1.25 GB/s.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thunderbolt is currently 20/s and scheduled to ramp up to 100
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: There's no scheduled release yet for the fiber optic thunderbolt
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: we're stuck with chipped out braided copper thunderbolt now, which is why it's 10-20
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: Dunno, just glancing at Wikipedia.  Point being it's still way slower than main memory (as you originally thought)
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: and it's actually dual channel 10
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: Yeah. I didn't know enough about the requirements of RAM bus speeds to know if you could expand your ram via tb
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Would be fun if you could have periphials on fibre connections, so you could overcome all distance limitations (except speed of light).
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: That's actually the plan for thunderbolt already, Ranrr.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the most obvious peripheral is an audio receiver
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which already uses optical connections via spdif toslink
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I meant something a bit more generic and cross platform.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Digital optical cables are fiber already, no?
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I just noticed you said spdif, right-o.
T3/r5/2012-01-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can already get fiber interconnect cards for many things
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: What is the correct variable to represent a mob - I want to make an alias mm to cast magic missile on my target - for input i have mm * 
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "%1"
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: just use cast 'magic missile' without a target
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Really, it would be good to have both.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: if you don't specify a target, it'll target the mob you're currently fighting
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: I'm mainly using it to target things without being in combat.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hardcore Hotcakes Tech: in combat I can just press enter to repeat the last command.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Make both anyway. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway "%1" will contain the contents of your *
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: What is the best method of introducing a delay in a string of commands entered into mapper? (for instance, while waiting for a mob prog to trigger in a cexit)
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's covered in the help
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in mapper help, that is
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: mapper help, or the web page?  (didn't check the latter, though I should have)
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: And... apparently I just missed that entirely.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I need to read more carefully.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: how do you check which version of the aard client you have?
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: help->about
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: no, not the version of mush client, but the version of fiendishs aard client
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: checkversion, iirc
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: spanks
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Is it possible in text editor to replace k (anymob) with bs? Wihout replacing all the ks that are in words?
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Not sure if i worded that too confusin.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, as long as it's a decent text editor
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't reliably do it in notepad, for example...but any editors that use regex can
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the issue is that you want to make sure that the character before the "k" is not an alphabet letter, so it won't flag "hick loser" as "hic" "k loser"
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: the super-lame way to fix it is to just alias 'k' to bs :D
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: *Yay!*  Go Dispel Majic!!!  High-class Hotcakes cheers her on.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're doing what I think you are, I'd suggest abstracting it, so that you have a thing like "nuke foo", which you can change in one place to use the opening attack you want
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Dispel Majic.
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: honestly, on every character on every mud, I alias 'k' to my fight initiator
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I alias 'j' to my best attack skill/spell
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: and 'h' to my best heal
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: so I never have to think about that part of it, I just k mob, j, j, j, h, j, j, h
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: there are other muds?
T3/r5/2012-01-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Busted.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HannibaLec Tech: can someone help me find someone?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is fiendish around
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, whatcha need?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: still having problems with an error not allowing plugin save state
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: happens when i try to put in or instally pluggins
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you on vista or win7?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: 7
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you put mush into program files folder?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't do that :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nope its running from the desktop
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: with admin rights
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, double-check permissions on the folder
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and logged in as admin
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: I get the same error actually, whether i'm running mush off the desktop or c:/games or my documents
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: happens every time i open the game with basts spellup pluggin installed
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no matter where i put the folder
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: even tried running in xp compat but then nothing came up
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: heh, same
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the exact message given?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hold on ill tell ya
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: my bag sort plug threw of my window, now i'm getting now space lines between anything....
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: any ideas on how to fix it?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: unable to create save state file then the path to the file and a ton of numbers afterwards
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the path correct?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: making sure brb
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yep
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: how do i make it so there is a space after each action in my main window? something errored and now everything is stuck together
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dreckis, type compact
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: @C at the end of your prompt?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: wish i could paste the error 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the path to the plugin folder is correct
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lemme try reinstalling and see what it sais
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: so guess im at a loss on this one
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: pluggin seems to work not sure what the save state is for 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's spellup is the only one affected?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: says compact is removed and its still stuck....any other suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: does anyone use basts spellup plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: there you are
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yay, fiendish :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: still getting that error
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but the pluggin seeems to be working
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hi what's up
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what'd I miss?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Shenanigans. Always shenanigans.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an unable to save state issue
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the error about not being able to save state?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: that save state file, moved folder now get error again
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: run as administrator, disable UAC, put mushclient in a safe folder
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: running from desktop
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Only happens with basts plugins, least for me
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure about the safety parameters of the desktop. I guess it's probably safe.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: still try running as administrator
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yep
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: still get the error
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lrynn, possibly strange question, how are you *starting* mush/from where?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: where do you have bast's plugin folder? inside your world/plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well was starting from taskbar, then shortcut on desktop now straight from the folder itself
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: windows 7 rules...right?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: Mhmm
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: xp was so much friendlier
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triple-check that the shortcut is pointing to the mush folder you think it is
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im goin to linux lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: I"m sorry.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I find that mushclient actually works consistently better in linux than it does in windows ^_^
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may be trying to fix one folder while it's executing from an older one
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not running from a shortcut anymore
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im running it right now, got the pluggin open
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but dont really know how to test it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: is your Bast folder inside MUSHclient/worlds/plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yep
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's still a whole bast folder, not individual plugins, right?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: bsp help, is suppose to bring up the help file
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: rep
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i got that open right now
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: do you have to manually add the spells
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: I ran into the same problem here. Then again, Google seesm to be down too/
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I get occasional errors from the BSP, usually just a restart will clear it away. But generally it runs well.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: google is shutting down for a full 24 soon
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: yes, i think you can bsp add all, or bsp all, or bsp sadd <name>
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I never get any errors from bsp
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder what you're doing differently
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sadd all to add all your stuff in one shot
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: you running 7 fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm running Ubuntu
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I sometimes test in windows 7
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only if someone reports an error that I can't figure out, though
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: What tag does this: {sfail}541,0,8,-1
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I have an older version, so that probably is alot of it. I get an error if I disconect mid quest or cp, then restart client.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tlaloc: spellups probably
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: spells added
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah, lots of errors and other bugs get fixed in newer versions. it's important to stay relatively up to date
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also the new aardwolf client package requires a relatively recent version of bast's stuff because of an update to the Lua engine
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Nod, im sure it is user error, and my limited knowledge of scripting or ever noobing around the client :)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh off subject but about google they are shutting down along with amazon, ebay, and many others on or around the 23rd from what i hear
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh interesting, guess I should update. Think I can just run the bastmush updater?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lua 5.2, and subsequently Luajit 2.0b9, now errors on escape sequences that aren't explicitly used for something
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Lrynn.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not entirely sure why that decision was made
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: shutting down, huh?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yep cutting us all off in protest of SOPA
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: SOPA?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: stop online piracy act
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its a big deal righ now
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SOPA is the funniest thing to come out of the US since Bush's world tour - the fact it is being considered makes me feel SO very sorry for the sane people hiding amongst the loud nutjobs over there
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Think anyone will ever be able to stop it, or stop most of it?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SOPA will spell the end of US DNS dominance for EVER
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure that funny is the right word
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Haha-cringe funny, rather than haha-clink beer funny
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I know how to stop online piracy, it all very simple.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just offer a better service at a reasonable price
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Decrept Tech: light anyone on fire caught pirating on first offence?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so anyway, about this mushclient business...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its really a sad situation
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i got my spells
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too bad you can't offer a reasonable service at a better price...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the errors?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: it's still in committee isn't it?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: havent closed it yet to check
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It was 'delayed', then they 'undelayed' it quietly
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: it tried spelling me up twice, wasted my mans
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: mana
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because your country thinks you are too stupid to decide your own issues, and treats you like a piece of crap EVERY FRIGGIN DAY
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: I don't think it wil past current form.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I would gladly pay a decent chunk of money every month to have all the tv series and books I want at the click of a button, with high quality. And movies, of course.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: pass rather..
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Should just seize everyones money past 10mil, and distribute it equally so everyone can buy DvDs and Software ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: wow, vakieh follows his current events
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I can afford to buy DVDs, but it's just not convenient.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i stopped pirating when it became the thing to do
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: a few hundred k for free, will help with that ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no fun when everyone knows how to do it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can stream pirated content in around 10 seconds from my chair - if I want to PAY for it, however, being in Australia I have to go to the shops - FAIL, Mr Label Company
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: As it is now, I have to plan days ahead what I want to watch :(
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i stream as well
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No amount of money will allow me to see the latest episodes of my fav tv series.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but also pay for netflix, but they dont have the selection of the pirate places lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Every single DVD I have bought for the past 5 years is unopened, I buy the DVD days after I have streamed and saved the 1080p
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: "pirate places" lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And Netflix doesn't exist here
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hell, we can't even get Hulu without a VPN
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: letMewatch this...google
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: but we can buy alcohol at 18 :)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, TPB works just fine from here :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: we get it blocked on a regular basis, it moves constantly
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's probably illegal, Lrynn.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey back to basts, does it monitor your spellups and recast
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Have you tried the Spellup script off Winkles page, Fiendish?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no I havne't
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but winklewinkle can tell you all about it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is that another plugin i need to load or is it in the one i have
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Same, was wondering how it was.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: haven't had the need to try something else
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I'm using it.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I like it - it's simple, and it works.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't enjoy "shopping around"
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lrynn, it should all be in bast_spellup
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: alright so now i guess i can disable my trigger for respelling me
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: how do i disable my triggers without deleting them, i need some of them
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: disabling all your triggers is actually a bad idea
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Theres a disable triggers option on the trigger screen
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it'll make plugins fail
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah fiend...we found that out earlier
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: that was my first problem with your map remember
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess I need to make the mapper check for that
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but really, there's no legitimate reason to disable all your triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no i just wanna dissable certain ones
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I disagree, although I'd prolly just connect outside the client
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of valid reasons to want to see MUD behavior unmodified
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient can show you raw packet information if you want
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's how I filed bug note 11079
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: raw packet information is NOT seeing mud behavior unmodified
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's giving you a method to derive mud output
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: fire up telnet then, would be my answer
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I've used that to test stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hey, is academy the only goal that does that?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, every goal does that
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only when you use its proper shortname
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: goal acad doesn't, goal academy does
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh weird
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: doesn't show taskhints, though
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it should
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just learned about tasks <goalname> all pretty recently for open goals
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think I knew about it at some point when tasks where first invented, but had since long forgotten
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i am just learing everything lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as for being able to complete a goal w/o seeing all tasks, I'd think about goldrush or gilda where you can choose a path
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but so what? you can't redo goals
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: man i hope this thing works next time i use it i like it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're supposed to be able to ;-)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: suuure
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyway, it'd be trivial to add a flag for the few goals that have that problem
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a flag with builders to make a goal redoable on tier, etc...the backend just hasn't been coded yet
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I wasn't talking about that, I was just answering whether you can complete a goal w/o seeing all possible tasks, which you asked about in your note
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you should at least be able to see all the taskhints for each task you did see
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you just pointed out that you can still see all the completed tasks after finishing
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I use my logs when someone's asking a question and I wanna say it's in tasks here
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well found one problem when moving my folder.....
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's that, lrynn?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: g15 keyboard has to be redone lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: logitech gaming keyboard keys & outputs
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yep
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why redone
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ill just have to tell it where the game is i guess lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing the controlling software was looking in the one folder for something
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah its still looking for it in my other folder
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: fixed
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: man...long day lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: stinks that i have to work 12 hours tomorrow
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I forget, did the state save get resolved?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I work 12 hours every day, for 30+ days at a time.  Don't complain too much :P
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not really
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i havent closed the client again yet
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't work at all, suckers.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: wish i didnt
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you love your job, is it ever really work?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I loved my job, but my job moved 17 miles farther away.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you have to wear pants, it's work.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i would love to make a living building computers, but then it would be work so not sure if i would like it then
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh good, ranrr, I'm safe
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I didn't need to do it, so I stopped. Now I'm planning to go back though.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.therestartpage.com/#
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh god, I remember way too many of these for how young I relatively am
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ok gonna see if i get the saves error
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: probly will i havent really done anything
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yep still got it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: had to click ok only like 20 times that time
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and the plugin is not working now
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm not surprised
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you running as administrator?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yea
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: always do
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its working again
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lady Elyce Tech: Does Bast's spellup plugin use tags spellups?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ohh my
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Elyce: probably
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh well i might mess with it again later as long as i can get it to work i dont mind
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just did a google search for my problem...seems its kinda common actually
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: solution?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well on gammons site it sais there is some conflict with variables in the persons plugin...not sure about all that stuff though
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know it's a common problem when UAC gets in the way, but it shouldn't be getting in the way for you now
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, try deleting the state file, let the plugin create it from scratch
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i see a reistall in my future lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i just love messin with stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I see no reason why that would help
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, reinstall is pretty painless with this client package :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not saying it would help just saying ill mess it up so bad messing with it that itl need it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh possible
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: .....or i could just copy it as is and put it away for a catastophe
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: here's an idea...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you say the mapper works?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yea 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what happens if you type 'mapper backup'?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: worked fine
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then the problem is not general write access
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it seems to just be bast_spellup's state, none of the others
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's rather peculiar
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: exactly
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: only happens when i save basts
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wonder if perhaps your computer corrupted the state file
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in which case abelinc's suggestion to delete it should be followed
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: if i do delete the save will my map have to be filled again
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just delete the state file of bast's spellup, not the rest of them
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but really you should try to only delete the state file for the spellup plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if possible
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'll save yourself the work of setting everything up again
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ill look for it tomorrow, there are alot in there
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: gotta make sure i get the right one
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the files are world ID followed by plugin ID, I believe
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the one whose name ends in 9674
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you open the plugin in a text editor, the top of the file has id="aaaf0c555a44169e0f1d9674"...that's the pluginID, so you look for that in the stat file's name
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: I'm getting periodically disconnected from the MUD. It's not my internet connection's fault
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: Any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is anything happening?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you idle? are you getting HUGE output?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: are you lagging?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also how do you know it's not your connection's fault?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: neither, Abe
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: and I'm not lagging
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: i have another telnet session going
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: and the other one isn't kicking me out
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be transient issues anywhere along the path, though...it could be a path that your other telnet isn't traversing
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: Aha
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raol Tech: Is there anything I can do?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: getting same thing but its working
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its saying unable to write the file
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: now that i have made you all scratch your heads
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im going to bed lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: everything is working though i dont get it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: when i open i get more than one file error
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i know ill save the file as is then delete all of them
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well see tomorrow, take care all thanks for the conversation and help tonight
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: night lrynn
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: night
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: after first mort you are enough experienced to do CPs in 10-15 minutes using mapper and plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Interesting how S&D the xcp command will/can run you to an area differently then xrp command, or the xcp ignores the mark sets
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: sry XRT
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: does anyone know how to edit the mapper database directly?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use some sqlite editor
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: will look into that, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Changed to a more recent MUSH lately, my old MUSH only captured INFO: messages in chat window, this one seems to spam them through main window, any ez fixs?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: right click on communication log and pick what you want
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: look for a echo off option
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ahh i see, echo other info, thanks guys
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Very nice ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: cant triggers catch combat words?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mapper adds noportal flag to the mapped. how can check this flag from script?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and other than that. you need to find the database value for it. 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: open up mapper plugin, find how it does it and copy
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: if you have no clue about that part, then just forget it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: why? i can script a little bit. like read data with gmcp 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: like I said, read it from there. if you cant do it. then dont bother :)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: but since mapper already does it for you, why dont you try to script it to work with you....like in winklewinkles scripts
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i would like to check the room, before i try to portal out. 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in my portal alias/script
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: use mapper goto command that checks it for you.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: does the version of mush on aard's website include the most recent version of mush (4.73 or later?)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: now it does
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: 4.80
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: great, thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: mush, combat, is it possible to replace the round by new round combat text somehow. ? so it can spam the log with the full text but doesnt flood the game window?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what do you mean replace?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: instead of adding text, it replaces the old round text
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: so only current round is shown
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you can replace any instance of text with another or gag it away completely
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have seomthing that REDUCES the combat spam.. but not anything that keeps it on teh same lines
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: well. i meant something like the communication window has - about 10 lines for text. but would like that on main window when fighting
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i don't know of anythign like that
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: in mush. is it possible somehow to gag something from 10th line from bottom. so, up from that treshold the text is "forgotten"
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only if you make a 10-line trigger.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: multi line trigges can't gag
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, true
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: ok. but is there a plugin for sending combat messages to another window?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You could make one easily enough
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: im terribly dumb in coding:(
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hm ok i just isntalled the newest mush and i'm in the process of dealing with plugins. in the old one i had, the health/mana/moves/tnl thing wasn't in a bar but in a rectangle stacked vertically - is there a way to get it back to that shape?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hahaha yeah it'd be under the stack bars bit
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nevermind
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm ok im having some problems with font issues - i'm using bast's quest alert that comes with the tabs. i'm trying to change the font color, and i have - it shows the font color on the menu settings... but it doesn't reflect the color in the quest window
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Never used it, but I'd imagine the color is set in the plugin when the text is getting written.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Unless you mean you're trying to change the color "blue" to look like orange.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm.. ok, but there is a settings menu built into the part of the plugin that you can actually see - one set for font, the other for colors. the color has now been set to white, but it shows up as purple both on the tab bar (where everything else font-wise is yellow) and in the quest miniwindow alert thing
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ah, no idea, then.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: kk, thanks :)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: can i copy the aardwolf.db file from an extremely old version to the latest one?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: any issues at all, even minor ones?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think you can copy it over, but I would not quote me.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: tiny fugue question...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: can you use a trigger to break a while loop?  I've tried setting the trigger to a higher priority, but it still runs after the while is done... (scripting hunt trick)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladyos Tech: what are you using the while loop for? since scripts usually run all on the same thread, if it's busy inside the loop, it won't handle the trigger until it leaves as is expected
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gladyos Tech: you might try using the output, triggers and variables to "simulate" a while loop
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neopraxia Tech: How would you use a trigger to call an alias in mushclient?  Any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: send to execute
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neopraxia Tech: Thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: how do I remove a portal from winklewinkles script? 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: if anyone knows
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neopraxia Tech: off
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: dunno, ask winkle? he's online...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: I asked him earlier, don't want to be spamming the poor guy
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does winkle's script have portals, or is it just using fiendish's mapper commands?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I thought he just had aliases to make working with the mapper easier
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like goto area doing a lookup on "first room" and doing mapper goto that UID
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try using the mapper portal commands to remove the portal, see if that handles what you want
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Ah no, for some reason the script wants to use the portal to soulblade to get around, needless to say that it fails  
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but is it winkle's script that wants to do that or is it fiendish's? the script you're typing the commands for may not be the one that is doing the work
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: you said I would try removing the portal, but that's the problem - I dont know how Abe :(
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type mapper help
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: I've tried raising the level in the script, but it still tries to use it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Ah nod forgot about that helper, thanks, I'll try reading that
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you can type "mapper portals" to get a list of portals in the mapper, then "mapper delete portal <number>" to delete the portal with that index number
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: oh that's a sweet command, TY abe!
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HannibaLec Tech: no one on rp channel...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: How would I make bast's quest plugin play a sound when the quest time reaches 0?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: easier to just make a trigger off the muds output
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: then add a sound to the trigger
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know where to download the most recent update of Yashiro's spellup script?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the most recent update is years old by now
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I would say is 6 years and 3 months old.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works for me, but i've modded it pretty heavily. last version was hosted by fiendish iirc
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: yep, just found it on his site, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: danj wrote a tags-based spellup script for zmud as well
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know where i can get the color capture script? cant remember what clan had it posted
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: can you tell that im setting up zmud again from scratch? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: color capture script?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: nods, where you cut from zmud and when you paste its in color?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have the color prefix set, zmud should copy/paste colors without a script
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a zmud setting, not a script
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: sorry, thats what I meant
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the color settings, there should be a spot for you to tell it the color codes
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: nods, one of the clans had it posted on how to set it up quickly
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for other zmuddish stuff, finger danj, atreidess, alhena, claninfo crimson
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone know who was hosting Atreidess' scripts when his site went down?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think Etzli had them at one time.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is any way to catch my hp into a trigger?i want to make a sound allert when my hp is lower then a number
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best way to do it today is using GMCP...what client are you using?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: mush
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out the couple plugins at the bottom of my scripts page...there are two that would be trivial to convert into just playing a sound (one tries to recall, the other quaffs, when HPs fall below a settable threshold)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Quaff...you mean like an auto-quaff trigger that heals you when you get at low health?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes lulz
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: He just said that, lulz
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: auto-quaff is legal...auto-quaff afk in aggro room is not...the being afk in aggro is what is illegal...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help botting used to even use autoquaff expressly as an example non-bot trigger
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I didn't even realize that was allowed...It sounded like something that a bot would use, so I guess I just never considered it to be feasible for normal playing.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, lots of legit scripts can be used to enhance botting
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunt is perfectly legit as well
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: but it also mentioned if you autoquaffed while afk in an aggro room it is botting.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup mendaloth...as I said, it's the afk in aggro that makes it botting, not the autoquaff script's existence
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I knew about Winkle's autohunt script, although I still don't understand how it can hunt CP mobs, so I don't know where autohunt really becomes "more efficient". And I can see why AFK healing would be botting.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can't hunt cp mobs...it can do the hunt trick for you to find the cp mobs
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it doesn't hunt cp mobs, it finds cp mobs in conjuction with the gmcp mapper
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: never could use autoquaffer for that reason though do occasionally have to leave quickly
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: In conjunction with the mapper? I always was under the impression that by autohunt, it meant "find the mob and move towards it".  Just making the hunt trick faster doesn't seem very necessary.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autohunt scripts pretty much just let you be lazy when not campaigning...I'll often request quest, rt area, autohunt target, background aard...come back to aard and kill target
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: use the hunt trick, search the mapper for the room, goto the room
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not faster, less tedious
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and NEVER necessary
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the hunt trick is tedious...the script takes the tedium out and leaves it as just waiting the time
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than up arrow, left arrow to change the number, hit enter, up arrow, left arrow to change the number, hit enter, lather, rince, repeat
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just huntrick thismob, wait
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Ah...that clarifies things somewhat then.  Though I'm intrigued by Bast's comment - I didn't realize you could manually search the mapper for a room.  I've always just used, for example, Roominator to find rooms...is it really possible to do that in the client itself if you've explored the area?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper find
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes or mapper area if you are standing in the area
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or mapper showroom to fake being in an area
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Wow...I seriously need to learn about the mapper then.  I always just took it as a spiffy looking map.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: might wanna look at mapper help, fiendish's site's wiki page on the mapper, and the link at the bottom of that page which goes to someone else's page on mapper hints
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch's
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I've noticed mapper help before, but only in regards to portals, and not much in that regard...the sheer amount of options just made me think that there was a lot of cexit stuff you could do with it.  I had no clue that it could do things regarding areas themselves.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's the one (was too lazy to look }:>)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper's not that useful if it can't find rooms :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Sounds like it's research time, then. Thanks for the tips, as always, Abel. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: the health/mana/moves xp bar in aard mushclient disappeared, how do I get it back?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: found it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: anybody have a more up-to-date gainmonitor than 0.09 that won't bug out on q complete?  :P
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what client?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: mush
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a statdb and statmonitor that does what you are looking for, it keeps up with all kinds of things
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starting with aardmush and adding bast's folder (maybe throw in a winkle or two), there's not much reason to run any old plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: what are the good winkle plugs?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i don't want everything that bast has
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: all of them?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need evrything bast has
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but his stuff comes in a folder
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: whats winkles site?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just click "add" for the ones you want once the folder's in place
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: finger winkle
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: finger winklewinkle
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: ty
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: so i'll take that as a "no" then
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: to my original question
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you just want to use statmonitor, then just load statmonitor, but you need all the files because there are dependencies
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're looking for an updated version of some guy's plugin, you'll have to talk to some guy...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: unless one of you other people had it....
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: which is why i asked
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how do i create a second communications log window on mush client?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy the existing comm plugin, change its ID, windownames, etc
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy answer is "don't"
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: abe, new aardmush should allow to do that 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: hrm, bummer, i like having two com windows
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, he added multiple-miniwin recently?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Creating_multiple_log_windows
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, try downloading from fiendish's site
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: that redirected to http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: worked just fine for me
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that page is what I was describing, I'm not seeing an inbuilt multiple comm window mentioned in the changelog going back a bit
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: nm, got it
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm back
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Esai Tech: Welcome back :-) 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inti Tech: Anyone using cMUD?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: surely some people
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: clients shows 48
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: fiend is it possible to assign macros from command line in mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Inti Tech: Oh there is a command I didn't know existed :)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holliday, I told you how to assign macros from command line yesterday
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i musta missed it - disregard, ill go recheck
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: how can I make a trigger use an alias
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Holliday: yes via the Accelerator and AcceleratorTo script functions
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but they won't persist across sessions
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: One day I'd like to see the macro dialog get replaced with an Accelerator dialog
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually...I guess I could make that
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I'm using CMud
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Zox: make it send to execute. or send to script and use the Execute function
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're on fiendish's site, click wiki, click mushclient faq...click the first link on the macro page
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: wow winkles spellup is nice
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: hrm, do you have to move your mini windows around everytime you start up mush client?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I save my settings
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What's the alias to show your current aardMUSH version?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: checkversion
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei thanks Turie heartily.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay mush users, whats the best mush spellup plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I personally use Bast's. I believe WinkleWinkle has one as well.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i personally use the mudside one
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I use WW's and like it.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Anyone experienced with scripting with Lua on Mush?  Im trying to write a simple script but cant seem to find the info I need on variables on the website.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Variables
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: with Y being the alias and X being the variable if I set a trigger to script mode, and then I wanted to use the Y alias on the X variable would I type Execute("Y " + X) or what would I use?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vilhjalmur Tech: Ty!
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: look up GetVariable and SetVariable functions
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If X was a variable local to that script (i.e. not a MUSHclient variable), then that would work (assuming "Y " is the matching text on the alias, not the name of it)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh, except replace the + with a ..
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (two periods)
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: kk 
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: does mush automatically keep you connected or do you need a void trigger still?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it does not
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: on bast's potion quaffer, everything i type pots it doesnt detect and when i go to use hp after i type pots it says i have no potions left....
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: errr everytime
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I've never had any luck with using pots to detect how many pots I actually have.  I've always had to set them manually via healnum and mananum.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: i can manually set the numbers, but if i type pots it kills everything set
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have shortflags on?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't know if it matters
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: no its off
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Actually, if I remember the way it works, it shouldn't.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you set heatpot and healname already?
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: and desc
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yeah, healdesc, that's what I meant
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Been a while...
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's what it's checking for when you type pots.
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If that's correct, it should find them
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: it looks in the bag but doesnt do any detects
T3/r5/2012-01-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I just doublechecked my healdesc and manadesc, and used the pots command myself, and didn't use any detects either.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 0h
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i'm using aard with bast's plugins and i have two issues: the clock between levels seems to have stopped (consistently at 10hr) and a font issue in the tab bar
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: any suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: well maybe it just never started because i set this all up last night
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the clock between levels?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the what?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: Gained a level: 33hp 24mp 24mvs 3+1 = 4 trains 10 pracs 10h:35m:11s 12 mobs killed (245.50xp/mob)   <--- the time desn't update
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is bast's statdb plugin, if anyone still cares
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hey, i still care! is there a way to fix it?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Do you have the stat miniwin up? (not the native Aardmush one, the one with an M in the corner)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are there tabs on that one? Specifically, a Levels tab?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does the info in the Levels tab seem ok?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hm
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: in the Last 5 part, it stopped counting at level 30
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait. Oh dear. Just back from work, is there anything in the announce about a gmcp change? Because my bast quest tracker just threw a fit...
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: board announce note 1030 :/
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That isn't a gmcp change, that is just aardwolf.com updating to the latest Aardmush snapshot
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: oh..
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hrm
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My quest tracker from the same plugin seems to be indicating a change in the gmcp formatting o.0
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Visible Imms, have you been told of a pending gmcp change that mebbe slipped past the notes board?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it all seems to be the same...
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was no gmcp change
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and it's been 2 and a half weeks since the last reboot, i'm sure it would have been mentioned by now
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, this would have needed to be in the last 8 hrs :-P That said, I did fail my last quest, perhaps there was some misformed data in that *enters sqllite mode
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was it your first fail since installing the plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possibly since the last update, but not since the db file was made
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: k, I remember some early bast db versions which would give nil value messages for some stuff the first time they were experienced
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but doesn't seem like that's likely in your case
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes, it looks like failing this morning's quest rather than being late to work has left me with a bad entry - possibly because I hammered afk and bolted out the door :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker softly.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so back to the actual problem Phalae - are you getting any runtime errors, or is it just stopping?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no errors, which i guess is a good thing :)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Actually it isn't :-(
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohhhh :(
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No error messages means it is a lot harder to pinpoint the hidden error
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: will i completely break it if i take it out then put it back in?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's what she said
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: High-class Hotcakes enthusiastically high-fives Ol' Dirty Fiendish!
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: id certainly hope that wouldnt end up broken :p
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Keep the db file, reinstall the plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: almost did once
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have to be careful
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ack
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Broken member has been documented from reverse cowgirl o.0
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok i tried also removing miniwindow stats deal and i put it back in, but now its gone/not showing up
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It will load the db and reappear, hopefully - can take a minute
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm, didn't update/appear with level (or with whois or score)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: restarting mush...
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohhhhhhhhhh noes noes it lost all the plugins i had put in
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: next time save
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no idea that that was possible!
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish blinks innocently.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: well now i do :)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phalae, are you running on something other than windows?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: well... it is vista..
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient always asks me if I want to save when I quit
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohhhhhhhh
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohhh ok i closed mush when i was in the testport window and asked me to save in there but not the aardwolf one
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: h but wait wouldnt it have saved anyway, i have the automatic backup thing?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay, so i reinstalled all the plugins that i had before, including the miniwin stats, but now it doesn't appear at all even in the tab bar
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Go level once, then check back
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't until it has some info
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey all
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how goes it, lrynn :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not too bad...do i really need to have a tech problem to talk on this channel 
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: stat window still gone :(
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok, maybe this is it, i installed a non-bast plugin earlier
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i removed it though when this stuff started happening
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: well yeah Lrynn, that or help answer one... that's why we have different channels on Aard, they have different purposes.  However, it's fine for the tech problem to be related to Aard OR not related to Aard. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: told you it was basts program that caused issues
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: or i told someone....
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ok building a new pc, putting 3 ssds in raid 0 is that overkill
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not if you don't mind losing data
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nah ill put all there really imp stuff on my backup hd
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just have to get the wife in the habit of putting pictures on the picture hd and not my hd
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i know all bout losing data, her pictures cost me 1,000 dollars to recover
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ill never buy western digital again
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hmm
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: -:
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth peers around himself intently.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: for some reason, when i try to get an item by its ID number from a bag, it says: You don't see a 367096661 6.bag here.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: but when i try to get something by its name not ID number, it works
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i'm using bast's plugins including the eq one
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: This game is the devil's game, I tell you!
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I had some issues with his eqdb one, had to disable it.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: boo :( any way to fix it without doing that?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: not sure - could ask Bast??
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: hi, for mush i m looking after plugin with mini windows with spells affected-duration, pst if you have
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: anyone have a good plugin for viewing items in containers with different criteria, like say you want to see just the daggers in your bag, or everything of a certain level/range?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: is there a way to make a command repeat multiple times in mush like there is in zmud? ex - #4 c 'cure crit'(in zmud) how could i make that work within mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: by using a for loop i expect
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: ahh ok, thank you.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Yes, I do it all the time...there's info on the mushclient home page, basically you create a small script file and an alias
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i made an alias that matches ^\#(\d+) (.*)$ run that loop
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: this plugin has pretty much the same functionality as zmud/tintin's #repeat command... http://www.mushclient.com/plugins/Repeat_Command.xml
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tier unless you feel like sitting SH when 7x, yes
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mis
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: anyone know how to make the healthbar display? Mine went blank for some reason
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: muschclient
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Reload the plugin.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: did that
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: ok got it, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: anyone remember how to send commands to aard when using a for/do?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Send()
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: for 1 (1,2,1) do sned where elf
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: that's an example
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ma
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rascally Rampagne Tech: for i(%1,%2,1) do "an aard command"
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know how to get zmud to restart mccp after an error?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (pref without reloading)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly hafta disc/reconnect
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: need to close the session completely?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if the mccp command doesn't fix it, you probably need to restart
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cool, dirty reconnect works
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any idaes why those errors occur?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: randomness
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: old, no-longer-supported client, possibly being run on a too-modern OS.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: none of those are correct, dokkar
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lost bit somewhere in the transmission causing the zlib to error
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ZMud is definitely an old, unsupported client
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but not relevant to the question
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the age of zmud is wholly irrelevant
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mccp standard has not changed in that time
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, it's not.  Bugs in the system will remain unfixed.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're assuming it's a bug
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it is.  Not necessarily one directly related to MCCP implementation, though.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all known clients behave the same way when there's a deflate/reinflate error
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ZMud is so full of bugs in general that something that makes something weird happen in a trigger could affect the status of MCCP.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and the fact that all data in ZMud is stored as plain text (except for core stuff that uses ADO databases) means proprietary routines to handle such things could be buggy as well.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a load of crap
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can't comment on how it's written, us zmud users are well aware of how badly coded it is
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: however, it gave us a rich mud client with a mapper years before mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: data being stored in text vs binary has absolutely ZERO to do with whether routines can be buggy or not
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one storage method is not more prone to buggy routines than the other
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: only genuine issue i had with zmud was it's rather buggy scripting language/editor
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: only bug in zmud i found was zmud
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: No duh, Abe, but Zugg went entirely out of his way to accomodate everyone when Microsoft was making some very retarded mistakes in the stuff they were exposing to everyone else.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you cannot make a statement like 08 Jan 16:01:55, and then suddenly claim "no duh" when someone calls bullcrap on it :P
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: this meant that for 10+ years, all kinds of hacks and workarounds built up that weren't necessarily fully expunged in any later updates that might have fixed such issues.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you made a statement without a shred of validity to it
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: newspapers and governments do that all the time
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no, I did not.  I'm not responsible for any inferences you make.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no inference
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess you just don't understand the definition of the word "means"
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Does anyone have recommendations for a script for runto using portals and the aardportal?  I tried Swalec's srun and it's giving me some errors -  I don't mind trying to debug it, but I figured I'd see if there were alternatives.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: WinkleWinkle's mapper extender is the one I'm using.. pretty good (assuming you are using MUSHclient)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: if a set a script variable in mushclient such as 'x = "y"' will it save between sessions?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: a lua variable will not save
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: kk
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I installed WW's extender, but I'm getting errors with it too.  The FAQ on using it talks about setting cexits with the mapper plugin, but the commands there don't work.  Does anyone know if Fiendish's mapper plugin is built in to the aardclient now?  if so, what are the cexit commands anyways?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: And thanks everyone in advance.  :)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mapper cexit <command>
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned dns keeps going down
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like mapper cexit enter crack
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: then wait for confirmation
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned dns keeps going down
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: time to shoot the isp
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger, try setting your dns to google's rather than ISP's
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is there a way to tell mapper, if room has flagged no portal, then don't move to another room. just give message, that can't portal out?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: If I purge one area with aard mapper, I will be deleted completely?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: all rooms and other data
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't know that it will properly remove outside references to it, though, particularly if it's some alias call that isn't really identifiable as for that area.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well mapper doesn't hold any aliases
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: what information is backed up in the aardwolf backup file on the mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just the mapper
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hello
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyone know why jedhi wants to make the mapper work less well?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: No, but I noticed something weird about the mapper today when I was exploring rooms.  Is it naturally supposed to already show all of the rooms in the Academy, even if I haven't explored them all (and this is my only character)?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I was just noticing, because "mapper unmapped here" never brought anything up, and yet I was still about 40 rooms short.  I had to manually go through each room.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: All of the tiles were visible as well, not the usual red dotted lines for unexplored rooms.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: some areas come preloaded
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I figured that was the case, but I didn't know for sure.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some few areas are indeed prepopulated
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's actually been a bit of a problem ^_^. a few areas like goblin path later got replaced
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Do you know off the top of your head what other ones might be preloaded, bychance? Just so I have a heads up later.  Or perhaps a way to find out what places, other than running into them randomly?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's mostly a few newbie areas and the continents
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can tell you in just a second
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: looks ike 20 areas are populated, including continents
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Continents I'm not too worried about..I was mostly curious if there were any areas above, say, level 40 or 50.  Ones that might have a bunch of portals, etc.  If they're straightforward areas like Lidnesh or Academy or whatnot, then I'm not too worried.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Learning how to use the mapper this remort, so I figure I'll be doing some exploring. :p
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: land of legend? *shrug*
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That one just has the tiny maze, right?  In the water?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the 'mapper areas' command will show which areas have mapped rooms
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it was originally more than 20, but I've had to remove...I think...2 areas because they changed and adding areas to the download is actually much harder than removing them
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Ah, I see.  And mapper areas I don't think will help much, because seeing as this is my R4, I've already been to numerous areas - all it'll tell me is that I've been there, not that I've explored everything.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Unless there's a command to show which areas are fully mapped, anyways.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: mapper unmapped is very useful
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It doesn't show zeroes, though, I don't think
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I alerady have "mapper unmapped here" aliased. :p But for example, when I was in Academy, it was pulling up 0 rooms, even though I was still about 40 rooms short of exploring.  It had already come preloaded with all the rooms, which was the confusion I was asking about at the beginning of this.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And I don't think my continents came preloaded.  I have some continents with 900+ exits unmapped.  But maybe I screwed something up at some point.  Or just have an older version.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: continents have always been preloaded
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but the map database is keyed to the name of the world file
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so if you make another world file that is not Aardwolf.mcl then you broke it
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, that's probably what happened
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lulz: you can always purge zones if you want to re-map them yourself. the 'unmapped' command is not bullet proof, though. It can only tell you about unmapped rooms that it actually knows about
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I think there's a bit of an old issue with -1 uid (unmappable) rooms still showing up in the numbers
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: It's not a dealbreaker for me that I feel I have to fix, but it was something I thought very curious, and I didn't know if it was a bug or that perhaps I broke something.  Having it tell me the area's fully explored when it wasn't had me worried. :p
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: any hidden exits will not show as a potential unmapped room, for example
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: likewise custom exits
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Hidden exits, such as...? And by custom exits, you mean the cexits we make ourselves, correct?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: exits that show as "other" don't get sent via gmcp
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and hidden exits are ones that you don't see until after you open them
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I believe palace of song has a few hidden doors, for example
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Oh, gotcha.  Will I be able to map those later through a manual cexit if I choose to do so later?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Sweet.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and actually in the case of hidden exits, they do come through GMCP after the door is open
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think most of them are nopass, though, so you'll need a door opening cexit
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That won't be too much of an issue, I think. Hosch's guide can set me straight on that part. :D
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Any way to transfer a state file to a new world?  e.g. I have a plugin that I created with a bunch of tables and variables.  If I do "save world details as...", then all those tables don't exist in the new world.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah...mmm...you'll have to rename the file
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: following the naming pattern of world ID and plugin ID
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Is there a way for mush aliases to call other alias wildcards?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Don't seem to be able to make it work...
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: send to execute or send to script and use the Execute() function
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: OK, I have to turn them in to mini-scripts.  Cool.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it depends on what you're trying to do
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, are you wanting to call other aliases or are you wanting to find out what was passed to them?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "execute" is one of the Send To options
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I want to call them.  I have a wildcard portal alias, and I want shortcut aliases that use it with specific portals.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: But I'd like to just have to change one place if I change the off-hand weapon, for example.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Hey Fiendish, another question about the mapper...Hosch's guide states that once you know the room numbers, you can pretty much calculate speedwalks from anywhere...but is there any way to look up a particular room in another zone to find its ID #? (i.e. mapper area <room> doesn't seem to work cross-zones, but is there another command?)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can use showroom to fake being in another room
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: mapper find (name of room)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also find if you're cool with the area ambiguity
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "find inarea x" will never be added
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one of those things I wrote and then decided against including
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Oh, I see what send to execute means.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That's the command I needed, Hotcakes! :) I wanted to see just how indepth the mapper could go with, say, figuring out speedwalks from recall to CP targets in other zones if I get a room-name CP.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Fnord: "world" means directly to the server. "execute" means pretend you typed it (which does aliases)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Yeah, just got it.  :)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: when using mapper find how do we enter multiple words. for example, mapper find the castle kitchen?  should i use quotes or other symbols?
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can use double quotes if you want it to be an exact match, otherwise don't do anything
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 'mapper find the castle kitchen' will work just fine and will match anything containing the phrase
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Fiendish, your mapper is a godsend for GQs.  I was rattling off mobs left and right with the area search commands. <3
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sighs.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Haha. You sigh as if you don't like the compliment...:p
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle predict Fiendish removing that command now :D
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: just don't upgrade :P
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Just make sure you don't make the game less fun for yourself by abusing certain features.
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Psh.  The fact that I can get more than two mobs in a 1-9 GQ makes me giddy with joy. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: cool tidbit, the chat window in the mush client lets you see who invisible people are if they talk
T3/r5/2012-01-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: blame gmcp for that
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say there's some market house plugin??
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Those 4 bids all came in at the same time.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: automated bidding is not allowed last I heard
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: weird, just started and no errors on loading this time
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: have not changed a thing
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you probably restarted
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah had to install updates yesterday
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: windows permission error
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: strange, strange, strange
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: love windows
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Odd using S&D when I hit go, it always enters, enter bucket, run 2e, up, before it does the mapper runto.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: stop botting
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: lol, nod
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: even odder, if I manually press. go 1, it works fine, but if I click the Bot box go, it always do the enter bucket crap x.X
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so stop botting
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Its not my fault, the mapper made me do it!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: got a mush scripting question, anyone around who knows mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: High-class Hotcakes giggles at The Lord of Malbolge's actions.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, unlikely. Such an exotic client.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: fiendish knows nothing
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Especially Fiendish. He's our court jester, knowing only smart words!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: j'k
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: rofl, guru there. heh.  ok, just started trying it... and wildcard pattern capture seems funny.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: pattern:  \(*\) \(M\)\(H\) Jade Elixir \(60\)    send:  %1   ?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define funny
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is that a regular expression?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: (or supposed to be)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: results are blank, empty... yes
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: see told ya 
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: in la la land that fiend
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \(* is unlikely to do what you want as regex
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: well, trying to capture the # of elixirs I have and store to variable
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in regex, * is a modifier symbol
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only in the glob format is * a pattern, in which case you shouldn't use all those \s
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: ok, coming from zmud so I'm 'funny' :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: if . is a single digit match, how can I do a multi-digit match?  .. ?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in regex?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: . is not a digit, . is a character
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i need a kill all command
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tech .* is 0 or more characters. .+ is 1 or more
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: .- is 1 or more nongreedy
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish points at Lrynn and whispers 'he seems somewhat confused don't ya think?'
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: my mistake... so to capture let's say the value 60, ... I should use .+ ?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oldham Tech: my doctor says it is a phase
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you're using regex, yes
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though if you're using regex you should also anchor the pattern with a ^ at the beginning
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: kill all?  cast fire breath
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: dont have that yet
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: charge
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: yep, usually do that last.  ok thanks for the help... been in mush coding less than 2 hours and 10 websites :P
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afterthought Tech: thanks, will definately look that up!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: got errors again fiend, when i installed more pluggins
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient has * glob patterns and regular expressions, none of this inbetween garbage that zmud uses
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: what plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i installed the cp window, and the quest window
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: both work
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: you may need to run some sort of file integrity check on your harddrive
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just got errors when putting them in
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: permission errors like this shouldn't be happening if you have your folder in an unprotected location and are running as administrator
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure the state folder is marked writeable
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: it is i checked last nigth
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: imma try restaring again in a bit to see if it works itself out again
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: anyone else not able to connect to www.yahoo.com
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: I can connect
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: me too
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: tech http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: odd x.X
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Try that link instead (=
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Great link, Cizra
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: its posted pretty much daily, dont get why people havent caught on yet
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You're welcome. That'll be 1 trivia point token.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: I didn't ask the question... heh :P
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: odd, cant connect to that either
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: MUSH is running fine though
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Check proxy settings?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, if I just added three of Bast's miniwindow plugins why dont I see the miniwindows?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: working now, just odd 
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: restarted no errors
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: maybe related to updates or something
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: no one knows?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: what was that file integrity check you were talking about
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: how do i do that
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Westclox: what plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: cp, quest, and gquest mini windows
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: *shrug* I don't actually use windows 7. google for system file check or something?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: westclox: are you on a campaign, quest, or gquest?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: ahh thanks, they wont show up until the first time i get one?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: you using basts plugins west
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: yes, just started
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: same here, they are nice
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i think i bout got em worked out now thanks to some helpful ppl on here
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: hrm, you cant resize them?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast's plugins don't really resize
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i think you can but youll have to mess with the settings, i just moved stuff around to make it look good
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: bummer, are they set up to turn off once you complete the quest/cp/gquest?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: ahh, well that's nifty then
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I wonder if it's possible to turn off that turning off, so that they'd stay on.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Resizing Bast's plugins is best achieved by increasing/decreasing font size
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: i love that it will turn off, then I dont have to worry about resizing it, when it's up will it "stay on top" if I want it to be on top of the main screen?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The main output window has the lowest z-number afaik
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So it is always at the back
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I actually have kind of bad luck getting bast's plugins to maintain their z order settings between launches
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh yes, trying to set that to keep in order is a pain - thankfully I only overlap 2 miniwins
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I find that the campaign window always drops behind my health bars on launch
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, but if the main window has the lowest priority, then when I use those they should always popup over the main window, and disappear when done?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure why
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't have any problems with the events miniwn (though I do use a modified version of it) - my spellup miniwn drops to the back on every launch though
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: I'm having difficulty with my idle trigger. When I test it, it's not working. It seemed like it worked once earlier, but now no matter how many times I test it, it doesn't work. The rest of my triggers do work.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what is your trigger pattern?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: it is enabled 
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Have you tried using the echo command to test it?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: My solution was... buy a bigger screen so you can fit many windows, for better botting :p
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: No, I'm using the test trigger otpion through the drop down menu
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: bast's spellup plugin doubles as an idle trigger :P
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: How do I use the ech command?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: echo <blahblabhlah>
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Yes it does ( which is what I used previously), but I'd like to be able to leave an afk message.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Riddim: only if you don't run out of mana :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: hrm okay nvm using echo works properly.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: never a problem in hotel, don't know where other people idle at :p
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: I guess I was testing it incorrectly through the UI.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: pk rooms mostly
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a timered clandonate as my idle timer
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I prefer to bot in PK rooms, helps my PvP score.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Conveniently for my bank, clandonate doen't work if afk :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone here really good with Bast's spellup plugin? just installed it and it doesnt appear to be working
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You'll need to tell it about spells you know.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see his wiki
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: there is a command to add every spell, its helpful. Just got to go through em and disable 1 or 2 that dont work right or you wont want to work.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Been helping him out, got some runtime errors that don't seem to be quick-fixable
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: try restarting client?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: post the errors
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a way to read a line from bash into a few variables without using arrays?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Say, if I wanted {a b c} into $first $second $third.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What is wrong with arrays?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't need subscripts. But I've found it, thanks. 
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In any event, not knowing bast, try searching for an inbuilt or third party tokenizer, should do the trick
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bast = bash*
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: read $var1 $var2 worked.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Must have been doing something wrong yesterday.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: backspace is not worknng for me
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: What client?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: is your backspace key working?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: I'm using telnet inside of terminal on a mac
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: which mac?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: yeah my ek keyboard works fine.  just aardwak isn't recognizing it for some reason
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in terminal settings, there's an option for backspace sends delete or similar
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: for exampke, enter works, but i have ^M on my screen when i press enter
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: also
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: 2011 early mbp
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: get AardMUSH running via Wine
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, half the telnet servers want ^? and half want ^H, so clients are often screwed when guessing which to use ;-)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: i must be on a windows telnet server or something
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient bypasses the question entirely as it doesn't send anything to the mud as you type, so there's nothing to backspace ;-)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: left arrow writes ^[[D on my screen and does nothing else
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: is there a wa hostfo hostname for a telnet sere server that reg cr recognizes ^H
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: ?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: i prefer to do most things through terminal/text, which is why i began searching for a terminal video game.  want to avoid havingt to have more windows open in addition to terminal
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ofasho, go to your menubar, to Terminal -> Window settings...use teh drop-down to select "Keyboard"...change the setting of the checkbox for "Delete key sends backspace"
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then try deleting and see if that fixed it
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what mean when type 'compress'
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it gives numbers, then it means you get an extra 2 QPs per quest...help mccp for details on what it means
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: and if it gives letters, someone is leeching your qp's
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: abelinc ok, did that, no change. maybe I have ot open a new window for it to te take e affect?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: I'll leave and come back just now to see if it works
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: hmm.  it works now i htink.  it just doesn't update on my screen
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: I hit delete, ^H appears on my screen, and no text disappears, but its actually taken out of the buffer that aardwolf has. so when editing my text, i have to mentally keep track of what's deleted and what isn't
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: So, with my tax check I'm thinking about upgrading my computer.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd upgrade it with computer components instead
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Well I wanna upgrade my processor and graphics card.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Any motherboard.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: my suggestion, upgrade the slowest component, grab yourself a medium SSD
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I've decided on the ASUS 990FX and AMD FX-8150 (3.6GHz 8 cores)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: worth every bleedin penny
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Already running windows off an SSD.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: gotta love <20 sec boots :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Yeah, it's pretty sweet. My windows and BF3 is on there.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: the maps load in about 5-7 seconds.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: my boot is 10 sec
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I wanted to ask for a suggestion for video card.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: but who boots anyway
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: ATI for sure, but idk which.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: the 7000 series just launched, and I want a high level 6000 series, but they're all so expensive.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Right now I have a 5750, and it runs most things pretty well at 720p, but my framerate starts getting nasty at higher resolutions.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: No suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: anyone run a 6950?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I run ATI 6880
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: ati 6750 here. never actually used it for anything yet though
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: I'm gonna be playing Skyrim and BF3 more.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: After I upgrade.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Just wanna know I'm gonna be getting my money's worth.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I quite like my GFX card. It plays the games on Ultra High Qaulity rather well
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: what processor?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Gonna be getting the FX-8150
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: 3.6GHz, eight cores.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Right now I have 965, 3.4GHz four cores.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ofasho Tech: Noodlez, do you ever actually fully use the 965 you have?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: I was going to say. Do you do editing and stuff like that ?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: When I hosted a minecraft server that actually used quite a bit of processor power.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hey peeps. Has anyone tried to run MUSHclient in a VNC server?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (I'm using Linux and Wine, by the way)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (I'm using Linux and Wine, by the way)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: And I like to record gameplay while I play games, which is taxing on your CPU. (Having a dedicated HDD for that also helps...
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It crashes with a page fault trying to dereference an almost-null pointer. I wonder if it wants OpenGL or something.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furen Tech: will you be hosting lot's of servers still noodlez
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: No, but once I can run my games on max at good framerates I'll be recording a lot of gameplay.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noodlez Tech: Which means 1. I'll need the processing power to run the game well while recording. and 2. I'll need it to encode the many gigs of output video I get.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Furen nods at Noodlez.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It crashes with a page fault trying to dereference an almost-null pointer. I wonder if it wants OpenGL or something.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyway to adjust the volume of audio through MUSH?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: unlikely
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uh....what?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: trigger sounds playback you mena?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ill explain, ya trigger playback. My old MUSH was very quiet, had to put master volume to 50%, this new one is loud as hell even at 5%
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nothing in mushclient has changed to cause that
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you use the function to playsound, you can speciffy the playback volume
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/function.php?name=PlaySound
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Interesting, because I still have my old client set up. Just tested it, still quiet as hell.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: does your sound control panel have settings for each appliation perhaps?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Not that I am aware of, but that sounds like a good reason.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is one using beeps and the other using play sound? they're 2 different volume sliders in the advanced sound control panel
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: imported the triggers from my old client, both are using the same sound files.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Not really a huge deal, I just end up adjusted the volume more. Thought it might be an easy fix. Prolly is and im missing it.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a reasonable fix would be to use the PlaySound function, I guess, but that's a bit more work than just clicking the sound checkbox in the gui
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm sure I read somewhere that windows 7 has custom controls per app
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I am using Win 7
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I figured you must be
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: used XP for years, win 7 is a bit foreign for me still
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: guess what fiend
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: errors lol
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my pc needs an overhaul
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: installation is only like 3 mo old too
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.tothepc.com/archives/program-specific-volume-levels-in-windows7/
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: nice, thanks. Ill give it a read after double ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lrynn: nuts
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im not too worried about it
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just a glitch in the matrix i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: try this http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: trying to fix a purgezone problem, is it safe to assume. If an old name for an area is not in, Mapper areas, it was changed pre-mapper?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can 'help stock' to see replacements
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what area?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone know off hand the Basts spellup command to add all spells?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: bsp sadd all
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Any writers?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: writers of what?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: novels
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm married to one
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Yes, novels.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Hello! How can I make technical wording like {chan ch=tech} to look like normal like (Tech) in ZMud?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: I'm trying out MUSH client. Can I assign a variable value from a command prompt?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Would you be so kind to tell me how can I do it? I promise to install proper winhelp file for Win7 asap. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://mushclient.com/scripts/function.php
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: SetVariable
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and your script prefix
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Great, thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for more information you'll have to be more explicit about the question
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: In fact, I'm used to play via ZMud. There I had a var "tg" where I stored name of a mob. I had several attach spells assigned to f-keys, so that I can type e.g. "tg=wolf" and then hit f1 to kick it. Can I do similar thing in MUSH Client?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Is there any reference material where I can read about this specific way?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \\\SetVariable("varname","yourvalue") will assign the variable varname with the value yourvalue
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Okay, thanks. And is there any shorter version of this technical command? In ZMud I had only to type "tg=[value]"...
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: \\\ is a script prefix which means do scripty things from the command line
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: SetVariable sets a variable
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not super complicated
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Thanks. I am sorry if I ask something obvious, but I am a bit far from programming, even simple one. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not a problem
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Okay, one more question about ZMud, if possible.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: I see tags such as {chan ch=tech} in channel prompts in output window. Can I turn it off (normal) somehow?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: "help tags"
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: tags off
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Allrigh, read the help note, everything worked, thanks a lot!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Allrigh, read the help note, everything worked, thanks a lot!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Sorry for double hitting enter. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "tags off" is rarely the correct thing to do
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you're using zmud, you might consider trying my zmud channel capture window script
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Ok, thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Just googled up a page that looks like yours, Fiendish.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just finger me
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: In fact, I'm a lawyer irl. You have good license terms on the page. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Someone in the crowd yells, "BURN!" Seltsimees Dagnir seems to agree!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Which bast plugin - broadcasts quest points earned / time completion / etc?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: xbroadcast? not sure
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Okay, time to learn about the mapper! I've been trying to set up my portals, and after realizing that I wasn't setting them to recall, I'm trying to delete them to re-enter them at recall instead of the random locations I entered them previously.  But after using "mapper delete portal #x", none of them are actually deleted, they're still in the list.  Am I doing something wrong here?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: recall?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: set your mapper portals at the destination of the portal
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Oh, you set it at the destination? Wow. I must've read Hosch's guide way far off base.  So I'd enter the portal, get to the destination, and then set it up via the mapper portal command?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Alright, that explains that part.  Why can't I seem to purge the listings in my mapper portals menu, then?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: (my original question)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc there's a wholesale portal clear command
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Well, now I have these three portal listings that no longer are relevant, and I want to delete them, but "mapper portal delete #x" doesn't delete them from the list.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper delete portal
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not mapper portal delete
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Er, mapper delete portal, I meant.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: tech delete fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alixana's Gregor Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: It pops up saying "deleted mapper hand-held exit '#1', but nothing is actually deleted.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: pops up?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trashbat! Anipopo Tech: yes i am
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well I just tried it and it works for me
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: i.e. when I type in the "mapper delete portal #1" command, it then echoes back saying "[insert previous text here]"
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: has always worked for me
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you're confused about it not being deleted when it actually is being deleted?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: something else may be filling the slot
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Maybe, but when I type mapper portals all of them are still listed.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when I do 'mapper delete portal #3' the 4th portal moves up to slot #3
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is it possible that your computer is somehow blocking changes to the database?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh wait, that was lrynn
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Mm...if it was, I couldn't tell you. I've never ran into this problem before, though, so it doesn't seem likely.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Do I have to delete the portals at the destination as well?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the portals shouldn't exist in the db if that were the case
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's true only if this condition isn't transient
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like lrynn getting errors every other startup or so
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true dat, but permissions usually aren't, unless you're starting the program differently
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm never surprised by Windows doing stupid things regarding disk access
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Do you think perhaps I have to delete the portal entries from the same place I have them listed? (For example, I set one up inside the bard area, so the area is listed as "bard" in the mapper portals list.)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: has no relevance to it
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: From mapper help, it says that it's "mapper delete portal <command>", so the only other thing I can think of is that the <command> is something other than, say, #1 (at least for me, but I can't see as to why that would be the case).
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's <command> or #<index>
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: either will work, but sometimes commands get long
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I should probably remove the command option as it's unnecessary
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lulz I'm not suggesting that you're doing something wrong (well I am, but not important), but it might be expedient to use purge instead of delete?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or do you have lots of other portals you want to keep?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: None of them are worth keeping right now, because none of them work, so purging is perfectly fine here.  My main concern is if I for some reason need to delete an individual portal later (say, a typo) and I'll end up at the same position I'm in now.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe not
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe by then we'll have figured out what you're doing wrong :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I do everything wrong, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one :p
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case, just get it right the first time!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Indeed!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah one mistake and you'll ahve to erase your whole list! :D
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The thought of that makes me cringe.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: at the worst case you could use a database editor
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: but i think your magnetic personality is making your commands malfunction :D
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: No, my lack of technical guru skills is making my commands malfunction. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Okay, so to recap, to make sure I'm doing this right - go to portal destination, enter "mapper portal get....." command to set up the portal in mapper?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and enter the listed portal level limit.. dont' compensate for tier
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Right, level of the portal when the window pops up, too.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i am trying to use a trigger on portals to remove the portal, wield a dagger, and then put the portal in the bag.  when i use * i get the period at the end and then i can't put that in the bag because the item is not recognized with the period.  i have the trigger as firing on "You stop hold a *".  
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: at teh bottom of http://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-scriptalicious/wiki/MapperHelp I have an example alias that will do what you want
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use a trigger...add it to the alias that uses the portal in the first place
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: the alias is a runto the location, the portal is set in mapper.  for example, my losttime alias runto # and the mapper will hold the portal, enter and then a trigger will hit on the whoos to remove and wield
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your portal command in mapper should be "get portal, wear portal, enter, weardual, put portal bag"
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: then i will need to make a variable weardual since that will change?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, but it'll work for all portals in permanence...you can't trigger on the text you're trying to trigger on reliably because an object's name isn't its keywords
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I have a separate alias for the dual myself, that I change whenever I change my dual weapon.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd need a trigger for each portal, rather than a single portal-using abstract
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Lulz.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i will try that.  thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: one more question.  are there rooms that mapper find does not have in database?  sometimes when i search for a room it cannot find it but i can walk right to it
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper only knows where you've been
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i see. thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it ships with continents and newbie areas, that's it
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Once you explore the room manually, then mapper find will pick it up.  But if you haven't explored it, then it doesn't technically know the path to the room because it's never been there.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: anyone know if there is a way to register your clan skill in basts spellup plugin?  
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: there is.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I thought he mentions it in his wiki.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: bsp sadd (name of skill should work) I think.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: but also you can find out the # of the skill and then add it.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsp toggleclan <snofclanskill>
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then bsp sa <snofclanskill>
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: also works with racial abilities
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Speak of the Mephistopheles
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: when i do both commands i get "inspiration" is not a spellup
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the also do bsp togglespell <snofskill>
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "bsp togglespellup" overrides the mud for the spell being a spellup, "bsp toggleclan" overrides the fact of it not being learned/practiced
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: looks like that did it.  will have to wait for it to wear off to see if it recasts
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lentz Tech: anyoe aware of vipmud client?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I know it isn't free
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i am having problems making a dual alias.  i want to make a variable i think called duwield and an alias du *.  Thus, when i type du dag, the variable duwield becomes the dagger.  the problem is that when i type dual duwield that does not work.  any thoughts or websites that might offer guidance?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The first thing that comes to mind is whether or not you're sending via world or execute.  When you're using aliases inside aliases, they absolutely should be sending via execute.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: test
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SUCCESS
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: TY !
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ok how do I create a new key for a macro? the tilde key has always been my flee key but it is not on the macro list and I have tried edit function and it only edits the macro , not adds a key.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: with the spellup command is there an increased chance of loosing con as opposed to just casting the spell ? and do y'all just use lost con triggers to cover the spells that are not cast ?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is no increased chance, and most people will use some form of spellup script, which maintains your spells continually
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I recommend Bast's, finger bast for the link
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're using the spellup command, you don't need triggers to recast - just spam the command a few times
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Wait, losing con? Wut?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The manual spellup command makes you lose con?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: concentration, not constitution :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Oh...phew. About gave me a heartattack.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i have a mudside alias that does spellup learned;spellup learned;spellup learned;spellup learned
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: good to know Myrkul
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: LOL soz Lulz 
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Hey, I felt it necessary to find out whether or not my spellups were suddenly making me lose stats and I was unaware...:p
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Indeed!
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: can I edit this spellup list ? I don't use some of the spells listed
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which list? Basts, or spellup learned?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For spellup learned, either don't prac them, or use the forgetspell command
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: the one activated by typing spellup
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: use forget spellname
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: must be forgetS, otherwise it is the stat forgetting command
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: did someone eventually find out how to list spell effects ordered by time remaining?
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drafoo Tech: I'm using my cellphone, a galaxy s, to play and on the screen are two blue overlay boxes that say label, one has always been there and doesn't do much in the top right of my screen but the other is concentrated near where I read everything. doesn't do anything when I select it, any ideas what's,wrong, y
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think if you long-press, you can bring up a menu where you can do stuff with it
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure what it's supposed to do, though
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: You probably added it accidentally by holding your finger on the screen too long.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: If you long press on it, you can either add to it or delete it.
T3/r5/2012-01-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drafoo Tech: aaah, thanks! I was starting to think i'd screwed up the game! :) 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Help!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Who uses Gmail chat?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: have in the past
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra raises his hand.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I am using the new Mushclient 4.73. Why am I not getting the look and feel in 4.71?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: audio
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: the map window is not showing at all
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: are you missing a plugin ? 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: seems that I am missing all the plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: try File/plugins wizard ? 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: hold on I may have downdloaded the wrong file. Brb
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azirafel Tech: is there a way to bind cltr+direction to do something?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azirafel Tech: like, open door this direction?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azirafel Tech: couldn't find it in the docs of the mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: use the accelerator function
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: there was a warning to d/l somewhere apart from windows or programs folders with some OS
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you probably need to write a script
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I have o s
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I have o s/s on all my numberpad directions , it works ok 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just slow
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azirafel Tech: Redryn cheers, looks like the thing I need
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zinuu Tech: I downloaded the wrong file. It is all set now :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azirafel Tech: http://i.imgur.com/gijgJ.jpg that's me looking at the script docs
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azirafel Tech: Accelerator ("Ctrl+Numpad4 ", "open west") .. right, works like a charm :) thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: my saves -15 what mean
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: my tech is -
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: my save i -
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: my save is -13
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: my pc is making 3 beeping sounds and the monitor doesnt wanna come on only the box
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: you have a key stuck?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: come on only the box, hm
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hailz Tech: im trying to switch it on
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Does anyone here use a netgear router?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: ask your netgear router question
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I'm trying to find my router's pin number, but I don't see any 4 or 8 digit pins printed at the bottom of my router
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For the config page login?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: No, for setting up a wireless network on Windows 7.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: iirc the out of the box password is online soemwhere
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. I use a pair of Netgear/Cisco, and neither use a 4 or 8 pin :-(
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: admin password
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, there was a site with all of the default logins by model out there somewhere
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Well, the set-up network wizard asks me for a pin :/
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does it say anything about PSK or something?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: the wizard from the router or windows?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: HellSpawn Nasus Tech: admin password <<< is the password and login
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: From windows. The wireless setup through the software I got through my router gives me a bunch of errors which shouldn't be there.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thats pretty much weird...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The native windows setup is notoriously bad, use the Netgear one if at all possible
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Due to crappy software, I pretty much have to set up networks and conenctions manually
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: As it tells me the router is not responding
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: come to think of it, unless you're trying to connect to a router wirelessly, you shouldn't need a password on windows end?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I'm trying to set up a wireless network first
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ethernet or usb connections shouldn't require a password for anything but the config page
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Perhaps connect via cable first to setup, then try wireless?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: always set up any router wired
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: rule of thumb
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Well, I'm currently playing Aardwolf with this router. I want to set up a wireless network so that laptops ect. downstairs can access the internet
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In that case, Netgear usually connects via the ip address 192.168.0.1 - this will ask for a login, my default was admin/admin, sometimes it is different
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: using your current computer, you have access to your router's config?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: From there, there is a wireless settings tab where you can set up the wireless network
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I hope you don't mean I have to use its software again
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Web app only
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: not loaded onto your system
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: yes and no
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: what happens if you typed that address in IE?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you need to access the router interface via your browser
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: hmm
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Basically, all I need is my router's pin, nothing fancy.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Was just wanting to know where I could find it.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows thinks your router has a pin - I don't think it actually does, though
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you have to create one
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you make the pin
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: go to 192.16l
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: and to do that you need to go to your router's config first
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: yep
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: just go to your default gateway to access the router in your browser
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: usually 198.168.0.1
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: by default it's usually admin/password
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: usually
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: or admin/admin depending on how old
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or .* for regex
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: . is wildcard in regex
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: . is not THAT wild. .* is wilder.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: . is any char, * means 0 or more
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah. And .* in regex is the same as * in non-regex. Now stop arguing, you're wrong anyway :-D (joking)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, it's not
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: .
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: .+ is closer to * in non-regex. don't tell ME how regex works
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: actually, i think .+? is even closer. afaik zmud/mush * is non-greedy
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I don't know if I'm doing it wrong. routerlogin.com doesn't take me to a place where I can login or use a password
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i assume you want to access your home router?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Yes
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: open command prompt, "ipconfig /all", get the gateway ip address and use that
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: common ip's are 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.254
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I assume I enter those into my browser?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nod
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Yeah. Neither work. Loads forever
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i said they're common, not yours. check ipconfig
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My netgear is 192.169.0.1, not 1.1
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ach - 168, not 169
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sucky typing tonight
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: that is a big problem
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: but you are not without options
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i changed mine, but mine was 192.168.0.1 too
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: worst case scenario, is you can wipe the router's configs completely
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: start from scratch, because it sounds like somewhere you messed up very badly lol
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would hazard a guess if he didn't know about his config page, they are at default already
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: rather not do something that may touch an existing workable connection....
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: It appears none seem to work
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or, you know, he could check the routers ip from ipconfig
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: if his default gateways are a no-go, there are no other options
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: back to surfing the net to find the default ip for your brand and model of router?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't need to guess, you know
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: just run cmd and ipconfig it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can you see the router in your 'View Network Computers and Devices' page?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Meh screw it. Even the software says my router isn't responding
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: From Control Panel->Network
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have, or have you not checked ipconfig?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: do this
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: do this
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I have
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: doh run cmd window
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you rightclick that router, do you see 'view device webpage'?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Also loads forever
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: is your current computer connected directly through wire?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Well, I'm using the router to Aard right now
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: thus, you have bilateral communication
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: but wired connection right?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are you able to load any webpages at all? Could be a ports thing
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir hides his face in his palm after seeing what Vakieh did.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Yes, I'm connected to the internet and everything. Also, the device webpage is routerlogin.net, which redirects to http://support.netgear.com/app/home
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not device's webpage. it's an address that is supposed to use your routers dns
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: that redirection's not right....
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: these things don't work sometimes, for example when the router install software tries to write it in your hosts file
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, well in the 'properties->network device' from the router icon just used, find the 'Ip address' line
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a safer bet to use the ip
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: IP is unavailable -.-
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ouch...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, something with the dhcp server then. also, you need the GATEWAY ip, not your own, vakieh
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The router ip is the gateway ip from that tab...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vakieh, why do you keep insisting of giving bad advice on the side?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I'll just call tech support. Thanks for the help tho, guys :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you are making something very very simple, very difficult lol
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it was simple why isn't it fixed?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: because you are running the poor dude around in circles with the wrong solutions 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i actually gave the solution in the first reply. that didn't work, so the next thing to do is restart or reset the router. dunno why you're talking about finding out your own ip address from explorer menus
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Checking tech -h, I see one of you recommending a reset on an unconfigured router, and the other recommending ipconfig, which garners it's data from the same place as the GUI
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: listen to the dagnir fella, he's got her on the money
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I never recommend resetting unless all else is a bust
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: it is however an option for those who have messed up their configs so badly that the router is nothing but an unresponsive heap of plastic and metal
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i said ipconfig in the first reply to the problem
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Just on the side, I have reset my router to its factory settings and restarted it. The netgear software still tells me the router is unresponsive, yet all cables are properly connected
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, step two - go to network devices, go to properties of your net adapter, then ipv4 properties and see if all fields are empty
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's assuming your router uses dhcp
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Hmm... Nah, I don't want to screw around too much. 'tis OK tho, thanks for the help :) Learned something new.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not screwing around too much. it's basic networking :P
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oh fack, new version of aardmush does not capture my own chat in the comm log, any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MeisterP Tech: oh nvm, fixed it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: anyone convert zmud scripts to mush? 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: hold on Ringo I'll find the page 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Has anyone tried to run MUSHclient on VNC server? (Linux + Wine)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ive used it on linux+wine and mac+wine
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Cool! How did you manage to get MUSHclient to run in VNC server? It crashes there. It probably wants OpenGL or something.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: anyone know where I can find cheap sata 2.5" drives?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Heh...atm? Nowhere
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The local dump. What do you mean by "find" anyway?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: if you want the cheap ones, they're usually failed. :p
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: discarded laptops
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dollar for dollar the smart money is on SSD while the Thai rebuild
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: vakieh speaks teh truth
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: cheapest one I can find is about $80
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: for a 160gb
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: for a regular sata 2.5" drive
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: tax, title, and license extra.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you could buy a 60gb SSD for that easy
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: Check newegg.com and tigerdirect.com
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: heh, I can get a lot of papyrus scrolls for that price
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: anyone familiar with laptops
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: anyone on
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: perhaps be more specific?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the tech channel is dead.....
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: long live tech
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: It's not dead. Winkle asked for you to be more specific.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: And you gave 0 reply.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Your q was rather ridiculous, tbh
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: fighting might have missed it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Don't blame tech then. tech -h wills how you the channel history.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ill get with ya in just a few
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i can't wait....
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: killng soem stuff that chuckled at me fighting em so im killing them
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: show em whos boss round here
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i've got a feeling this question will be worth the wait
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: So you want us to wait at your beck and call while you kill mobs and ask vague questions?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my wifes laptop is dead lol
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: High-class Hotcakes tickles Lrynn.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: did it die or boredome waiting for you to get to the point?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but...i heard it breath life a few minutes ago
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Buy a defibrullator?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: brull = brill
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: overheated, get it some air and wait for it to cool down
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im gonna need a corpse retrival for me in a minute bring that defib
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Less tech, more flee?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i had to run
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: cause i was doing too much tech
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ok so wifes laptop, failed to start multiple times last night, no video output from monitor or external output
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Battery?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: so...i opened it up looked at connections
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: battery is good
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: checked ram, checast chill
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: that last was daughter casting chill i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Um. Wat?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why are there multiple people on your char?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my daughter kit the keyboard lol
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Your daughter typed 'cast chill'?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: with her foot?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: macro 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: one button g15 keyboard custom macros
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: worst moment in tech ever
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thanks glad i rate somewhere
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Failed to start multiple times mean it did eventually start?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: shes 3
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: back to laptop ram is tight hd is working, but no post 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No post meaning the bios isn't firing up?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: no post is bad
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: or at least i cant see if it is
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: fans turn on and i heard windows load while i was fighting
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: went over there jsut now and it was off again
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: could it be she changed the display mode to "projector"
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows loading means bios should be ok
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: FN keys on laptops often change the output mode
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Have you tried loading in safe mode? Or with a boot cd?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: there may just be a limit to your multi-tasking capabilities. just a thought
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sounds liek it's just outputting to VGA out rather than the laptop monitor
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: bad lcd?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: wont output vga either
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: tried that 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im thinking possible gpu failure somehow
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Well you don't know if it's actually going to bios?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Because then it's most likely ur gpu is dead.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah true i have it on right now and its not doing anything 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: hook it up toan external
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: er sorry that won't work not paying attention to this.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: already did the external check
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not sure how feasible on a lappy, but try connecting to the mobo gfx output
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: a lot of BIOS 's will beep if you do F1 or F8 to go to BIOS
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: tried that too
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its a phoenix bios
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: no beep no good
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i dont think its posting noting happens but like i said i heard windows load a while back but....nothing this time
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Possible it is the CMOS battery, not holding its juice, but having enough sometimes
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seen a lot of intermittents caused by that
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its about 5yrs old
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: got a ubuntu or other boot disk?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: imma try the boot disk
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: if you can't get BIOS to fire, boot disk don't matter 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: a way to detect whether the bios is firing sans display
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: cp_Ch 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: this happened sorta the other day but i got it to come on after a few tries
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ibuy power is bout to get a phone call i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: off topic but doing surgery on wife's laptop is very risky
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh man.....you have no idea
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My money is on CMOS battery - can you see if is a socketed one or soldered?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i had this custom built for here for a graduation present 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: pour water on it to make it go faster
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i like winkles suggestion
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i have heard alot of bad things about ibuy power lately
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Evryone knows water conducts electricty better!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not sure i havent seen it 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: one guy i know has gotten 2 doa systems from them in a row where the person who installed the video card have ripped out the pci-e slot
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: water isn't conductive actually
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Socketed: Sweet, buy a new one. Soldered: Kiss the lappy goodbye :-(
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Saline water is
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yea, but it's the cl and na ions doing the conducting! :p
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i was typing that
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i usually builf my own pcs, laptops different story
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im thinking this one is due for an upgrade anyway, but its got a nice paintjob lol
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the bios is not fireing im pretty sure of it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: get some fan noise, random disk sounds but not much else
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: looks like ill be taking out the hd today and backing it up on my computer.....i hate her using my computer
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: let tech service take it apart and make the DOA call (don't ask how I know)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wife...on the manputer - EGADS! She will find all the nudie bits!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle laughs out loud at Vakieh.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: private browsing does wonders
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: wow talkin to you guys and i almost didnt turn in my quest i almost died to complete
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: .....wonder where teh cmos bat is in this thing
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: prolly on the hard side to get to
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you have to snap the cpu in 2 to see the battery
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Check the model number of your mobo, and look up a diagram online
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: brb backing up hd now
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hd good its reading right now
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can u describe the noise it makes?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its quiet
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tell me when the hdd light flickers on.. i want to knwo each one
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no hd is now in this pc
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im backing up files
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: god i love permissions....not
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i want xp back
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: google search...not the only person with this problem with this mobo
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would say every mobo has a failure or 100 eventually o.0
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: true
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have had a few doa's in my life
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well im gonna say its prolly dead, not sure its worth fixing if its the mobo
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it is just the cmos battery it is a quick simple fix. If not well...yeah, buy a new lappy
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i cant find the schematic for it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: awe well that cost me leveling time for sure
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: are alienware laptops any good since dell started making them or have the went cheap
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noose Tech: if its dell it sucks hehehe
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: agreed
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Washburnt Tech: Hi, does anyone here who uses the JMC Client know's how to set it so that it remembers the last command typed?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think anyone uses JMC.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can use the mudside option of !
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I type it this happens - 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I type it this happens - 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Washburnt Tech: Thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ya know earlier you were talking about the hazards of doing major surgery on a wifes laptop, when a hd crashed once it cost me 1000 dollars to recover about 60, 0000 pictures
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: that was on my computer though
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and it was the backup drive that went down
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you spent $1000 to recover anything then it wasn't a backup drive.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hey Fiendish. Does MUSHclient use Direct3D or any other 3D features?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cizra: no
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well it was more like a catastrophe situation
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sure? Do you have any ideas why MUSHclient wouldn't run in a VNC server?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does it depend on the vnc server?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I have only tried with TightVNC. But I know for sure that SOME Windwoes programs run fine with it.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my computer got formated, and before i had a chance to transfer the files back the backup fried
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: AFAIK, VNC is just pushing jpegs down the wire, so even if it did use direct3d or opengl or whatever it wouldn't matter
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mmm.. not exactly. TightVNC creates an X server, you see. And it decides what features said X server supports.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: I guess at the moment you only had one copy it wasn't a backup anymore :\
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: have you opened mush locally on the machine running vnc server?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol this would be true
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Holliday Yeah, locally it works fine.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try a different server like realvnc?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh fiend, no errors when i started today yay
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: today :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Will do!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you might also try (if applicable) using windows remote desktop
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so backing up the photos to a DVD was too risky (xxx-rated?)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, I'm running it on Linux.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is a linux RDP client
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably more than one
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, but _server_
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure about server. I guess that would explain why it's making an x server
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: er why vnc is
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry I just assumed windows
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: hehe
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Does the Aardwolf Blowtorch offer much additional functionality over the standard version?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: convenient preset buttons for movement
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Is there a way to put a scroll bar on the main window in Mushclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is a scroll bar, it is to the far right
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is on the far right already
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Ah, I see :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Anyone use a widescreen monitor with Mushclient? I have a lot of deadspace and was wondering what to fill it with :P
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol...*free* space?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a 26 and want a 32 :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a pinup of me
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: my 3 chat windows
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yarr!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: hehe
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MUSHclient works almost fine with TigerVNC!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: almost
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And by almost fine I mean only imperceptible lag.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 2 maps, main output, command prompt, comms log, spellup, events, stats, group, hp/mn bars, controller tab
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Never used Mushclient before...was always a Zmudder. This is...different
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I really want a seperate tabbed comms log for tells with it's own prefixed command prompt, but I have no space :-(
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with its own what?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: What is the difference between the two maps?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they do different things
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: one map is ascii one is gmcp
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ascii map is useful with mazes
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: consider the ascii map to be a more detailed local view of the other
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: To be honest, I've not really been looking at the GMCP one
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: By prefixed command prompt I mean a comms log with a tab for each incomming or outgoing tell target, which prefixes the input with 'tell <target>'
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's the one you SHOULD look at mostly
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Oh really? Ok :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: vakieh: an interface nightmare :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, I know :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Interface programming is my degree specialization though, so the interest is there
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just need either a bigger monitor, or make the switch to multi-monitor mudding
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I started working on a tabbed version of the communication log by beginning to split out the window dressing from the scrolling displayed buffer, but then decided it wasn't really worth it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Couldn't copy-paste Bast's Stat miniwn solution, then?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Mush windows are a PITA
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: haha, copy and paste like 6 or seven files
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why do I always miss the 3rd i in miniwin? :-(
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, the tabbed interface isn't self-contained, then - fair enough
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nothing bast does is self contained
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and as long as he doesn't die or give up that's ok
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if I put all the files from let's say the stat window in one file, it would be well over a meg I bet
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah i avoided dependancy files, but i have dupe code in all my plugins.. double edged sword
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods at WinkleWinkle.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Bast, does statdb track qp per campaign?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How do I query it?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish laughs out loud.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: the cp tab
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Tab? What tab?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the latest # can be shown in the cp tab of miniwin_stats
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra looks it up.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You do have the miniwin as well as just the statdb, right Cizra?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Now I do.... The miniwin didn't pop up, though, after installing the plugin.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Is there a way to broadcast that auotmatically when it's finished?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: oo, now it appeared!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: use statmonitor
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: statmonitor does what the old gainmonitor plugin did
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: How do i query that?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you don't at the end of your quest/cp/gq/level it will summarize what happened
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: hrm okay. Maybe I have it disabled.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: look at the wiki at http://bastmush.googlecode.com
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Erh.. I was staring at the CPs tab when suddenly a window popped up, labelled "Info" and having my current cp in it. It doesn't react to any mousing!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you should be able to close it, you moused over the mobs
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That's the problem, it doesn't react to any clicks or dragging. It's overwritable, though.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I mean, I can just bring the comm log to front.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, it disappeared. Hmm.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Can't get enough love for your mapper, Fiendish...! <3
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Beh )= The keypad doesn't work right through VNC.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: I'm looking for a little CMUD advice
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Don't use it.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish runs away in utter terror!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Sorry Fiendish, I am just to used to zmud/cmud to use Mushclient. I know it makes sense to use your client, but I'd rather stick with the familiar.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish snickers softly.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish doesn't care what you use.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: But MUSHclient has his mapper...which is a gift to all mankind...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra does. Less gq competition this way.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: sure beats the days of telnet and graphing paper...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Haha for sure
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: When I first start mudding in...'94...I played for about 3 months before finding out you could turn Local Echo on in Telnet...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: It certainly did help improve my typing :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Echo?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Where it shows what you've typed in.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you knew you were a badass mudder back in the day when you had a 14.4 blazing fast connection, graph paper, and knew midgaard and the underdark like the back of your hand... them were the days, ayep
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, when I started I couldn't see what I was typing
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: All these horror stories make me glad I'm young and didn't have to go through such torture...:)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: back in the days where we had to mud in the cold with frankenstein computers built out of leftovers from the Mayflower
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: hehe Lulz :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: uphill both ways :p
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: The worst thing was that my mud addiction started before monthly subscription internet existed. Man, the phone bills I ran up...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Help.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok. there.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Superfriends, assemble...!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if peopel talked like that on Q&A they would be lynched
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I lit the bat signal
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what do you need help with "help" person
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: perhaps it's too late
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It's too late! Go on without me!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The league of evil's already got to him! We must call the Justice League!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: I needed help creating a timetable for my writing career.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: he's already been overrun
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: this week:write book: next week: publish
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: week after: acquire yoghurt
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i nearly forgot that step!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: CHOBANI ALL UP IN HERE.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yoghurt? The Haskell MUD client library?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I think I got that one right, didn't I, Fiendish? :p
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Hey, Fiendish, now that you're on, I just remembered - last night I had that same problem with deleting mapper portals.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Still don't know what I'm doing wrong. :<
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish makes an innocent face and says: 'Listen baby - WASNTME!'.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know. It works for everyone else. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I ended up purging them and re-writing them, but I'm still mildly frustrated at why it's not working. "Mapper delete portal #x". Not that hard of a command. Yet it refuses to work for me...!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no capital m
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I don't use capitals with commands, that was accidental when typing the quotes.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: It's also bugging out on me when it tries to use my academy portal to jump from one area to the next in a speedwalk.  It never goes down to get back to recall first.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Horizontal HyPo smells some PEBKAC brewing.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: It just uses the portal and then tries implementing the speedwalk in the academy.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you did it wrong maybe
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can email me your database and i'll take a look later
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Pebkac? Nobody? What kind of dorks are you guys, anyway?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or dropbox or whatev
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: What file is the database in particular you need?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: So, yeah, my need for the familiar of CMUD was quickly outweighed by the fact that I can't be bothered to set anything up. Back to MUSHclient I go :P
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yay!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: the aard mushclient grows on ya
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like a fungus
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: I wondered what the smell was
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I cant imagine going back to z(c)mud after this
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What is there to set up?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: In cMUD? The ascii map in another window, the automapper
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, I don't use either of those
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to get functional parity with the shipping aard client package, there's quite a bit to set up...whether it's hard to set up, or whether you use those features is a personal thing
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: if I purgezone from the mapper to redo it, will it remove the zone forever, or will it automatically readd it the next time I show up?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish looks at Jaenelle ponderingly.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: YOU GET ONE CHANCE ONLY! haha jk
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it'll readd when you go back :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Thinking about removing one of the zones that came preloaded and redoing it myself to find my missing rooms. :P But it'd be bad if I never get aylor back ;)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I wouldn't purge aylor though
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: ok. :P good to know.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Why, Fiendish?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there are some rooms you won't be able to map
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: gussing I shouldn't purse a continent either? ;)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Like what?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: purging a continent would just be painful, but you can do it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cizra: uh...class towers?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: helper room, I think
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You _can_ map those. I already tried (=
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well I don't know
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Helper room, never heard of that (=
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: keep your backups around I guess
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You'll have to retier.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: nothing stops you from restoring a backup
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mmm, I know my underdark had clan exits marked on it that I can't see that I had to manually remove so that I didn't have 'but there's an unmapped exit!' thing showing :) But they were easier to remove one by one.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my plugin has a purge room command
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: undocumented
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think mine only has one undocumented command
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper killthephonies
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: jk
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mine has a hidden command to drop all of Kojiros eq and sac it and destroy it ;)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I found that command, and then it sac'd me.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: In Mushclient, I'd like to make an alias that will sometimes take a target, but sometimes just be used with no target. It seems if I use a wildcard, when I give the alias no target, it doesn't work.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You need to use regex and do an optional argument.  Thing on the Mushclient FAQ there is a how to do it.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ^attack( (.*))?$
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paloma, just use an aard alias instead of a mush one
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Either that or make 2 aliases, one with a wildcard and one without
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: is there a way to mark an exit as one that you not only do not want listed, but don't want to ever be readded again either? (such as the locked doors in open clan halls)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's much simpler to use aard aliases for those (attacks)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Thanks for your solutions
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Is it possible to make a macros which includes variable (like "kill arget" bound to ctrl-f1 or like) in MUSH Client?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: I meant "kill [at]target".
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: riathen, yes
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: gt
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in the macro definition window, click help...it suggests how to do more-complex tasks :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Ok, thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: the simplest way is to call an alias with your macro
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: You can make an alias that uses a variable, then assign it to a macro key
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: at that point anything is possible
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (which is exactly what the helps say :P)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: Cool. At such moments I see which differs a "humanities" mind (me) from clever guys. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: -what differs. 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riathen Tech: I'm a MUSH Client fan now. Thanks everyone who replied for help and good night! :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone here use SPSS?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no what?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: in powerpoint, has anyone ever encountered a problem with importing pictures where it fails to preview a picture and asks you to convert file: after you try to insert it?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: change the picture to a different format?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: it works on another computer, just fails on the other...same picture,same version of powerpoint
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: any tinyfugue beautiful minds out there?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: still trying to code my hunt trick, but hit another snag... fix this and it's good to go, i think
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: I'm using a {mobnum} var to represent the number that you're hunting...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm sure you'll get your bot working in no time
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Starling loves bots for breakfast in the morning!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: but the problem is that when I add one the var takes the string instead of doing the arithmentic...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: lol, thanks starling
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: so i end up on the second hunt, hunting for "1+1.grov" or whatever it is, instead of "2.grov" ...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: I'm thinking of demanding the MUD do the arithmetic for me...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: but that'd be more work in the end, i think, than solving this problem with a little hint from you good coders...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: try parentheses or look for a casting function (cmud and zmud use 0 as an example).
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bah, %number(), not 0.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: i did try parentheses, and i've been reading the help files but haven't seen anything about casting...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: well, '/set mobnum()=1+1' says 'illegal variable name: mobnum()'
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the parentheses would likely be in the wrong place, if parentheses were what fixes the issue.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: try putting them around the math
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: well, i already did that, but thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: here's the result:
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: (1
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: sorry
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: (1+1)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: i.e., the string, including the parentheses is captured in the variable...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is there anything in the helpfile about math or evaluation or similar stuff?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: khanacadamey.org!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: it all seems to hint that this should just work...
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: khanacademy.org for my tinyfugue situation or just in general??
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Is there a way to map a cexit for the mobprog that triggers upon entering the Labyrinth?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: from the preceding room
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Alright, just wanted to make sure.  Guess I must've typed it wrong the first time.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Uhm, so in powerpoint how do I make the bullet points appear one by one rather than all at the same time?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: set the animations
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: make sure you use comic sans, btw
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And multiple colours
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: thanks guys
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i was serious
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: can't believe I've gone through my entire life without using powerpoint
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you've been a lucky man
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: what is the command to reset your mush windows?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nebmaatre Tech: RESETAARD?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: that seems  to be it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i can't find my chat window
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: even after resetaard though...it is enabled
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you unloaded the plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: its loaded
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i just unloaded it and loaded it again to see if that helped
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe it's behind something else
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i've moved all my windows around searching for it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: post a screenshot of ctrl+shift+p?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i just got things to randomly pop up by just double clicking all over my screen
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: when it came up though it only then started capture
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: so it was acting like it hadn't been loaded before...but i did nothing but soubleclick wildly around my screen
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: nothing but double click widly....try not doing that :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: thats how i fixed it
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FnAqBroke Virigoth Tech: No fault found.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That's weird...there's an exit in Mudwog's Swamp that doesn't exist, and it's really screwing with my mapper goto's...is there a way to manually block an exit from ever showing up on the mapper? The only way I can think of it myself is to make a cexit with a level lock of 300.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FnAqBroke Virigoth Tech: Delete the exit
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you purge the area since it was river of despair?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: No, I haven't purged the area at all - I didn't realize it was redone.  So just purge it and remap it, then?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's probably the best option
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: you probably need to purge despair and mudwo
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: then try again
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: "mapper purgezone area", right?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Frustrating, since I just went through all of mudwog to set the cexits.  Heh.
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lulz puts on his exploring boots. Onward!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if i make a change to a plugin, will just using the resintall button in the plugins list work or will that corrupt the database the plugin might be using?
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes it will work
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless the plugin is written poorly
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: since its your plugin, i doubt that :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't know!
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mapper should handle restarting just fine tho
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which is what i'm going to modify
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza )
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza :)
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how repeat command under mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i can d #3 under zmud
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: press up
T3/r5/2012-01-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is a plugin for that on the mushclient forums
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I don't suppose the prompt/battleprompt adjustment keeps a copy of your actual prompt anywhere after it adjusts it?  It just wiped out all of the colors in my prompt
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: (the new plugin)
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: What's the command to unlock or lock the aard windows in the 'aardclient'?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Thank you! :)
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is there some reason I can't connect to Aardwolf on my usual IP address?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The game simply doesn't respond, cannot traceroute to it either.  I can get on from a different IP.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did Starling get an ip ban?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't see why
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I haven't done anything lately
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Tried all ports and resetting router, can't seem to fix the issue.  It just started happening the other day.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Anyone use Bast's potion quaffer? It's telling me no heal pots left, but I have set the healpot and corrct bag.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Healpot and healdesc needs to be set.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Also, you need to set the number of healpots with healnum.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: i.e. healnum = x
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Ah okay it was the healnum I was missing. Thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: (Note that the same will also apply to mana potions if and when you set them - manapot, manadesc, and mananum follow the same process.)
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: i couldnt et the auto detect to work on that quaffer. everytime you buy you have to reset the potion umbers manually
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Seems like it's working fine for me.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Wait you're defnitely right. Autodetecting resets it for me also.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yeah, my autodetect's never worked.  I always set them manually.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: guys anybody use winkle plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: I do.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: you use extender gui
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: ?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: nah.. I use the extender and S&D, but not the GUI.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i wonder about gui
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I like them all
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: What is your question about it, Covenant?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: once your get all your cexits/portals in and everything mapped... cps are so ez
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Calandril nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i wonder how do i turn on tha window
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: don't see gui window, but the plugin is installed
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: hmm.. its always shown up for me as soon as I install it.. you don't have the bar for it showing up at all? Could it be behind another window?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: hmm prolly it could
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: but still i cant find that
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: It's probably worth moving around your windows for a sec to double check.. I don't really know too much about it.. you could try sending WinkleWinkle a tell or note on personal.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking after a plugin Mushclient for mini windows with pot in inventory
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: so i installed the mushclient with the aardpack yesterday
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: this seems to have added some weird statuslines when accessing thpugh blostorch
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: is there an easy way to remove this without screwing it up ag home?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: statmon
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: awesome
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: it really clogged the screen on the phone
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: thanks mate
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: just upgraded my MUSHclient -- am getting failure from addxml.lua -- anyone got any ideas why?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hmm -- the ImportXML function seems to have changed with my MUSHclient update
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it is returning 0 where it used to return 1
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it is returning 0 where it used to return 1
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oops sorry
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oops sorry
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: hells bells, same mistake again!
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have just upgraded to MUSHclient 4.81
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: how do I get all the windows (map, chat, etc.)?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: use the aardwolf package, not mushclient itself
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: from aardwolf.com or fiendish's google site
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have gone back to my previous client (3.75)
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is the aardwolf website's MUSHclient still 3.75?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: go to aardwolf.com and get the newest version three, or fiendish's website
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or pay attention more
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use Pueblo instead
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: version r1557
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: a
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Does anyone know any C# teaching books?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hah yea everyone likes shrek
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I recommend Thomson Course Technology
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: pricey tho
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you will drop 100-200 bucks on each level
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: No ways. That's heavy learning and stress. Isn't there any other book?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: in short, no
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Just read tutorials and try stuff yourself.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: aye, only other way to achieve instant gratification is online tuts
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: as far as books go, thomsons are the cat's ass
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: I want to build a text-based game, the same as Aardwolf. Any tips?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: it's hard
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: give up now - invest your time into something more renumerative
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: would have to agree upon that
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: It's not that difficult if you have enough time on your hands.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: it's one of those things that takes many years, and dedication vs a nonchalant thing
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: But if you never programmed anything before then it might take a long time before you reach anywhere.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: even back in the old rom days it was tough
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: I still won't give up:|. Never! Forget you all!
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bilith, download a codebase, look at its textfiles
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make little tweaks, see how it behaves
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you won't make something "like aard" in the next couple decades
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you can have a playground
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you gotta remember something like this was not a singular effort, but amalgamation of many
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember, aard took decades to get where it is now, and it's done by a professionally-trained programmer
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: somebody with a eidectic-memory, extensive visual-imagination, high-iq, great-health, and a decent computer-degree (that taught how to cvde/use a compiler-compiler and lexical translators), and decent set of business ethics, maybe may succeed at coding a new successful mud -- but why bother -- with those skills, there are far more lucrative avenues
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Thanks for the tips. Here goes hard work and a reward of R325 000 a month if I land it! 
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: off-topic: why do everything i hear something about building game worlds first thing comes into my mind is Tron XD
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: tron... that was random
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: cr
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: oops
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: mapper question. is possible to disable moving incase trying to portal out from the noportal flagged room?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why would you want to?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the mapper will mark the room noportal and not attempt to sue a portal in that room again
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: will what if it runs to room ful of agros or pk
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sue=use
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: when it's flaged, it moves nearest room he thinks it can portal out
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can't change that behavior
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: ok, will talk to fiendish about that. it shouldn't be like that
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i belive lot of people will agree me
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Any idea where I can find the settings to configure the NetworkManager notification on Debian 6? I want the font etc to be smaller, but I don't know if the right settings are in some theme, in Network-Manager, or somewhere else...
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: hrmm I was thinking about how beastie a dual monitor setup would be with a monitor devoted to the mapper... /random
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: would be pretty boss, provided your client didn't have any issues with how multi-monitor support was implemented.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That'd be pretty saucy...you could have separate miniwindows set up with roomids and portal lists to cross-reference whenever you wanted to jump between locations...*ponder*
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: has anyone done that with aardmush?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: No, but now I wonder if it's possible, because I have dual monitor capabilities. :D
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: lol ima try it tomorrow, will let ya know
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: <- Is currently using a 32"-22" tandem but haven't tried the mapper
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: about all I have room for on me desk is a 20ish
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you have any spare wall space?  Could probably mount them side-by-side on the wall.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: unless your monitors are still the CRT types.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well i get to perform major life altering surgery on wifes laptop in the near future
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what are you doing to it?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its gonna be sooo much fun
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: my desk is open facing unfortunately at me office
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: replacing gpu
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it has an offboard gpu?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yea
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: must be a hulk
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: just enough room for a dual 20ish setup tho
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you can alter your life much faster if you just take a hammer to the whole thing and buy a new one.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hulk as in bulky or hulk as in a pwr house
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: Hulk is Mad!
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no paid to much money for the custom paint job
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: ugh notebooks are one of the reasons I chose to be accountant instead of a tech lol
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: complete with broken english and horrid grammar :p
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i was looking more into just reusing the case before scrapping it, then found out that the gpu is replaceable, only have to dissable the entire thing to get to it
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: i m looking after plugin for mush with spells affected and duration in mini windows, a idea?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: finger bast.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: not running correctly
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: for some reason, mush isn't saving upon exit (nor does it ask me to)
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: so i keep losing all the stupid plugins i install - is there a way to fix/do this?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Manually save
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok, oh there it is
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thank you :p hardest question of the day i hope :D
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: OK, I'm having a stupid noob issue where the main window on my aardclient has stopped showing any output.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I see my commands.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Disable AreaDB plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: And stuff's showing up in the communication log.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: OK, turns out it was automaze.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is it possible to get a daily blessing of just one qp, or does that one have a >1 minimum?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: goo dmorning amazing problem fixers!
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ok i'm using the latest version of mush with very recent bast plugins.. when i enter some commands, like 'sl' it puts me to sleep, but also seems to enter it a second time
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey is fiendish on
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh well, was gonna tell him i fixed my error problem
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: no finger, whois or anything to see if he is
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, the bast spellup savestat one?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what was it?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: when i close mush sometimes it askes if i want to save changes to files
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: if i click yes the next time i open i get the errors
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: if i close without saving i get no errors next time i run the program
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: also if i restart before opening i get no errors
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, but then you don't save :P
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: what actually goes into that final save anyway, i havent noticed much
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and why am i so excited that my wifes laptop is fried and i get to work on it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone familiar with dotsterhost for webpage hosting?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well mud or disasemble a laptop.....
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey fiend hows it going
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: watching the gilmore girls
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh my...im sorry
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why? it's a great show. i've seen it like 3 times
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I have a laptop that does nothing but beep loudly when I attempt to turn it on, trying to decide if it is worth the time to figure out what's wrong with it
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how much does it cost to replace?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Running on battery power only or plugged in?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: ... and nothing on the screen at all when you turn it on?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: plugged in
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: bios flashes briefly?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: let me double check
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Well, if the bios comes up, but it doesn't load to windows, may just mean a faulty install - which requires a new install
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: yeah, lemme know
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a bit presumptuous
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: yeah, maybe...
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: until he tries again and says what happens from start to finish
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: didn't even finish getting a log of symptoms
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: windows = faulty install by definition :o)
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: i'm a bit impatient
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OMG It's Aleks nods at Joethered.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it shows the acer loading screen for about a second, bar fills and beeeeeep
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: no other warning messages?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: nothing
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: does the bios screen stay there, or go black and beep?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i finally figured out that mine was loading but no display
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: black screen
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: fingerprint login even works
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: hmmm
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: How long since it last worked?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: mine or his
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Averan
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i know what my problem is
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: a couple months, not my laptop
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: sorry Lrynn :)  glad you got it fixed
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: parents, they were going to chuck it, figured I would take a look
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no its not fixed, i still have to fix it
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have to replacet he gpu
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: gonna be fun
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: am i weird that i am excited about the project
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Averan - well, crap... i mean, could be a number of things.....  If you can, try and get to the BIOS setup and see about resetting to default... just for shits and giggles..
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Lrynn, no :D
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Averan - Could also be bad memory... or something with the motherboard or a battery inside
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: it's worth taking a few steps to eff around with it before just tossing it out
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: tried to explain it to my wife with pictures and everything, her face was like...well blank
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Lrynn - yeah, most wives do that.. It's okay to be excited, just be worried if you dream about it :P
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: sounds like it is the processor, continual beeping in acer is apparently aprocessor problem
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Averan - could be
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: going to grab some thermal paste tomorrow, take it off and dust it and put it together again
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: if it works it works if not oh well
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: I've never been a fan of acer but that's just my opinion
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: exactly
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OMG It's Aleks Tech: Good luck
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: only be worried if it means project > sex
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OMG It's Aleks rapidly nods twice at Dokkar, in complete agreement.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: while doing research on my laptop i found out an interesting thing about compal computers
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not to be confused with compaq
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: they are often rebranded by botique shops, ie, ibuy power, and others 
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, yeah.  They can't all be successful brands, and the unsuccessfulness isn't always going to be technical in nature.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: i like asus best myself...used their parts a lot before buying my first one.  been happy with it so far.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: question, im trying to create a mushclient alias for the aardmuds rt command so that whenever i type in a rt <area> itll send is a mapper goto <id>, but it seems i cant get it to work? anyone can point me to what im doing wrong?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What doesn't work about it?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you sending to script and using execute?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or sending to execute
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can just send to execute
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Or that too.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: use winklewinkle's xrunto?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: i see was sending it to world
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: execute did it, thank you
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: World sends it directly to MUD without seeing if it matches any aliases.  Execute matches aliases.
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: got it mendaloth
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: thank you all
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: {invmon}3,725589879,-1,-1
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: What tags are those?
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: invmon
T3/r5/2012-01-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see help invmon
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chisato Tech: could someone help me with a spellup script problem. Im using the spellup.xml by nick gammon and it has loaded all my spells but doesn't cast them when i type spellup fast
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Perhaps your fast list is empty?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't use that one, but as I understand it it maintains different lists for normal spellup and fast spellup
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest using either bast's or winklewinkle's...they're much more moders (bast originally modified gammon's, but may have been rewritten totally since)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chisato Tech: the plugin says that my spells are all active despite only have 10 on?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: my buddy is having a problem the nick Gammon spellup plugin,  He has all his spells in the qeue but when he attempts to cast them it tells him he is already affecte by them, even though he is not
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: any clues as to the cause?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: some spells duplicate effects haste and accelerate for example.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: hmmm, i thought the problem was becaus his world file wasnt in the right location..
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: anyone know where my mapper db can be found?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: granola, it's directly in your mushclient folder
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is also a folder called db_backups with backups of your mapper database
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: I want a sex slave!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bilith winks suggestively.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Lol. The only thing I enjoy about this game is the stupid goals.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: in mush.. can you trig off a screen echo?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: i closed bast spellup window and cant seem to find it. how do i get it back
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: is there a command line option?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: it's bsp <something>
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: I'm not too sure what it is Bast doesn't really release his controls for his plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: nod
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: if i have a table in sql..like on column1 values 1 2 3 4 and column2 values a a a a and i want to get something like column1 a column2 1 clumn3 2 column4 3 column5 4 how can i do?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: What is the name of the plugin that creates the map window in mush?  Not the bigmap but the standard aardmap
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lukesmart Tech: I typed F10 on my P.C before startup recovory aND REBOOT, NOW i LOST EVERYTHING, ANYway to get my programms back?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: How do I tell mapper I can only recall from a specific room? I'm confused by mapper help.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: It should do it automatically if you try and recall-- it will flag the room as norecall
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Is there a site with Aard Mushclient plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: finger bast .. finger winklewinkle
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Quite a few, what are you looking for?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: STTNG has almost every room norecall - isn't there a way to set a specific room as the one to get to to recall/enter a portal?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: also the aard wiki has links
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Well, I'm not sure what is available, but specifically I'd like something that tracks my spell affects
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: where are my tf savants?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I used to use tf ages and ages ago
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: this may actually be a more general question, but syntax is always important too
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: i've currently got a vlad runto that includes autoloot, but since autoloot is a server-side toggle...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: i've found that i need to actually check the result...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: suppose i use a pipe?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: just thinking out loud here
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: other idea was can an embedded trigger work... oh sure, i suppose that's what i'll do
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heh talking to yourself?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: boy, any mention of tf really kills this channel
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: What is tf?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: tinyfugue
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: i'm too lazy to switch
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: abelinc is your TF guy
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: yeah, i only seem to see him when i'm not thinking about tf... heh!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: weill i got the laptop completely apart
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: fun times, fun times indeed
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: ouch
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: welp once the keyboard is free, it's easy sailing
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: only took about an hour
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: now have to wait a month for my new part to get here from hong kong
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Took you an hour to take apart a laptop?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i was tired
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and i had a 3yr old trying to help
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: some models are a total bitch to get apart
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I could do it 5 seconds with a sledgehammer!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Watch the language, beard
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the one i have is kinda known to be hard
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: lowkey :P
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its a compal fl90
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: some toshibas are really tough
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i think they use compals too
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: many major brands rebrand them from what i read
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: very difficult to get the framework around the keyboard freed up without breaking it, poorly designed they are
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well this is my first laptop venture
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, the hardest part about taking apart any laptop is finding all the screws, then getting the chasis to split.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: build pcs alot
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: my favorite are hidden screws under rubber feet
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah this one was actually pretty straight foreward really not hard like all the stuff said, but i was being extra carefull too
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ....its the wifes
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger flicks his whip across Lrynn's bare back. 
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: she has a thing about her custom paint job on it
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: the good side about lappies is that hdd's are beyond fast to swap =)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i was thinking of getting an ssd while i had it apart honestly
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: worth it, love mine
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: As a primary with the hdd as a slave?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: single drive ssd system's aren't worth it, IMO
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: only have room for one in the laptop
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: there is a nice 80gb for 150 bucks on newegg rigt now
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but, when i build my new pc im thinking of raiding 3 and using my 2tb as a slave
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is any way to make a trigget announce me if gq runns for a given lvl?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's not too bad, but it can't quite accomodate my 2 Tbs of internal storage :P
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you dont use a ssd for your archiving
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not a 2+ setup with an ssd primary isn't bad at all.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you only use it for the high demand applications
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: not=nod*
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i wanna see if i can rip and burn a movie in under a minute lol
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I know the philosophy behind it, but i'm on a very limited space machine, can't just add another drive to it, it's pick and choose time
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: roger, gotcha
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: like..if i am lvl 104 but i want to be announced when gq for lvl 105 - 112 runs?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: too expensive for the big guns right now, so a flat out swap would be foolish
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Mosi, yes it's possible, no i don't have the trigger phrase available offhand.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: the sensible use for SSD right now is for the big games and boot
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: precisely :P
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: buy an external enclosure and put drives in it for backup. I'd say go with USB external but the drives slapped in them are lowend and not extremely reliable so build your own with premium drives.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: win7 pro, 23 seconds is sweet :0
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: when I get to the office here, this one feels so slow :p
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods, i have 1 tb external and 2tb internal
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: I have an 80gb SSD primary and use it for that - boot and big games
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thats what i have now
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Arch linux 17s no hdd is just as sweet :P
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: bf3 about 30 seconds now
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: no ssd*
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I was well over 90 seconds before
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i need to try linux
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: well in all masteries yea maybe
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Linux is a lifestyle, not a hobby :P
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my daughter just came up to me and told me she hid my ipad, go find it and laughed
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: a little learning curve too lrynn, takes a few months to familiarize with commands, especially if you are familiar with dos
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Horizontal HyPo chuckles at Lrynn's joke.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I think that actually makes linux trickier imho
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: nods, the learning curve is pretty evil for just starting out linux, but if you spent much time in ms/dos you'll catch on pretty quick.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: SSD drives are okay for static unchanging fast information retrieval - but how long is a SSD going to last with high volume r/w activity
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ms/dos is very loosely based on the same principles as unix/linux CLI environment.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: h linux is fun... windows almost killed my interest in computers
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SSD has better rewrite capability than a magnetic drive Xyliz
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ive had an refurb'd ssd for 2 years  now - and its running great
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: what scares me is some say they dont last long
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: sure does, and no physical platters or bearings
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: had one fail, win 7 :P couldn't even post the system until I pulled the SSD.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Silent, don't overheat, no moving parts -- what exactly wouldn't last?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no fragmenting is what i like
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: The 'wouldn't last
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you can still break them into fragments im sure
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: same premise as ram, sometimes you just get bad stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: The 'wouldn't last' part is concerning a finite amount of write/rewrite.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not sure just seen some bad reviews, but then again i used to use nothing but western digital but had 4 fail in a row so now i dont use them so all things can get a bad review
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The comment about no fragmenting, that I find hard to believe. Fragmentation is a operating system failure, not a hardware failure.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Linux/Unix, for example, doesn't fragment. Windows: does.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: nfc about Mac
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: nothing lasts, come on how many people are still using a HD from 10 years ago. the capacity and speed isn't worth wasting case space on. SSD on the other hand even something insanely slow will be blazing fast until the next windows bloat OS comes along to deal with them.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no they say that they dont fragment as badly no need to defrag
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on the fs in linux, but most don't fragment
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Cheez, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: doh!  I could just turn off autosac!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: That discusses the finite qualities of solid state drives.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: blac wikilietoya
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: the new btrfs fragments pretty easily if you have a large rate of change and use snapshots
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: blah rather, never cite a wiki anything for factual argument
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: unless it's the aardwiki... different animal altogether :p
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Unless the information contained in the wiki is factual and cited. In which case, what's the difference between that information and any other studied, cited information.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Haters gonna hate.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: well, you can use specific history pages from the wiki that you've verified...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: misanthropic, no. fact, yes
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In any case, fragmentation in a non-spinning drive is a far less cumbersome issue
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: But still not non-existant.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: wikipedia's quality tends to be pretty good actually, i believe there was a favorable comparison study to encyclopedia britannica
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, that's why you schedule a defrag daily
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: but there are pockets of oddities as well... pays to read carefullyy
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: really how can you even test that... you would have to intentionally set up a situation to intentionall fragment both an ssd and a hdd simultaneously...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: and then do that several times with similar models for a control
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: rapid r/w over time, that's all it needs
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Simple logic, in a rotating platter you need to wait for the data to move into place, SSD you don't - rotational discs benefit FAR greater from contiguous memory
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it isn't that hard, write a bunch of files of different sizes, delete some of them randomly, write some more files, delete again, etc.., until you are satisified
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: that would be one heck of a fun experiment
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: /dorkmode 
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: i tried to install some plugin that I didnt get to work.. now i got a {affoff}/{affon} line after every spell that is enabled or removed - anyone know how to remedy this?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: tags
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: ouch just checked on the good intel X-## series for 160gb ssd... 450 smackers
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: now just imagine if you wanted to raid 0 3 of those... ouch wallet... 
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah they still aint cheap
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I couldnt justify even one of those
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: that's a lot of beer!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well...i only build myself one pc every 5 or 6 years
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i usually go all out when i do
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but i might wait for the next cpus to come out this time
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you could set a nice comperable 10k hdd array for less
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: raptors?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ya know i didnt think about that, but man 10k is some fast spinning lol
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: you can snag 300gb 10k's for 150 now
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would wait 6 months before I bought ANY hdd...Thailand is still rooted
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: vakieh you must be australian
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How'd you guess :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: noone but us uses "rooted"
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: rooted?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^uses it the way you used it
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Up the proverbial creek without a paddle, totally Fed, essentially
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ken oath!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol well...now i guess i have a new word
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like buggered
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: just dont give a thumbs up lol
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: define rooted?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I never did get my dual monitor setup for a mapper monitor going today, feeling lazy
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: he kinda did
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I even pulled the monitor out of storage and it's sitting in the box still next to me desk :p
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have a design i would love to do but cant justify it
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: 6 monitors all in a semi-circlular pattern in an enclosure that is soundproof
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: that is totally day trader
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol not a day trader, i build tires for a living
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh well alll my pc dreams are dreams atm
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the one i have was built about 6 yrs ago and i keep fixing it rather than rebuilding when something goes wrong
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i built it when the nvidia 8800s where the thing to have
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: recently upgraded that when it dies
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: 1tp for someone to alter bast's statmonitor.xml (format levl) function: Would prefer output of Level # Time:###### Trains:Gained#(Total#) | ###xp/mob
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dam i wish i could do that.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i can do it, just not able to get the total avail trains var
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't think that's in GMCP? You'd probably have to grab it from train command output?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: nm it's in gmcp
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: gmcp/char/worth/trains
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: What is the command to set the number of pots in my inventory for qbast quaff plugin? Autochecking my bags resets the number.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: pots
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: whenever I type pots it says I have no valid potions
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: pquaff help to see all the options
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: then you haven't set the desc correctly
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: ah okay.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I just did pquaff help, then pquaff list.. and at the bottom of the list there is Group Alert = off.... whats that?  its not inthe help file..
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh weit, found it.  nm
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no way to change which channel is there?  I'd rather it went to spouse then grouptalk...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: nope, no way to change it
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be easy to change, there's just not an interface for it
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cera, open the PotionQuafferv2.xml file, pretty much do a search/replace of "gtell" to "spouse"
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then reload the plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: If I'm looking to write a room description (for my manor) in a word processing program, is there any way to format it to the correct character length (79 chars or less) so I can just paste it into the note editor here? Using Word now, but I'm willing to use something else if it will work better.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I type ruler and copy paste that into notepad, but there has to be a better way
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try http://www.aardwolf.com/note.php
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Use the note editor on Aardwolf's main page.  They have a note formatter for that.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a note formatter on the aard website, although I use my text editor (I use editpad...others like notepad++)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I love how I can copy (and paste) from the communication log with color codes.  wish I could do that from the main window.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday is agreeing with that Siren Cera person again...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: pretty sure Word or any other proper word processing application has an adjustable ruler.  You will have to calibrate it (they typically go by inches rather than character count), but once that's done you should have automatic wrapping.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: ctrl d to copy from main window
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: with color code?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: really? asking if any word program can do limited lines...I think that was introduced in 80's
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: Awesome, didn't know about that note formatter.. thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: Yeah, I figured it was something I could do in any editor.. just didn't know how to get it to accept character count rather than inches, etc.. the formatter on the website works fine for me, though.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you wanted to formt a note on the fly, i have a plugin that wraps long lines of text for notes
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: christ how I hate mush, every once in a while - out of nowhere, it starts spamming when I move
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: spamming minimap
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Are you on a recent snapshot?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: snapshot?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: What version of the client are you using?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: 4.77
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Are you using fiendish's client?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: im using the one you can donwload from aardwolf's webpage, let me check a second :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Go update that badboy.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: that can't be the reason?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: but it might be a good idea I guess
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I bet it fixes your issues, just sayin.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Crnogorac is religious, believes that christ listens to the tech channel
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Jesus also wears a Rolex on his television show
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: nod hypo, but I'd like to keep my scripts/aliases etc :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Back them up with the 'save' button before you update and then 'load' them into the new version.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: save what, world details, or?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Open your alias page and click the save button.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: ctrl+shift+9
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: will this save winkles S&D script? and mapper ec?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: etc *
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: You'll have to reload your plugins.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: The database is stored as Aarwolf.db
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: just copy the db file over.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: There's an upgrade faq page somewhere here...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there is a web pag on teh aard wiki detailing how to upgrade
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Aye, instructions: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: thanks hypo, Ill try it out :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: You got it, Dude.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: bast.. have you gotten reprots on the error in level reporting for stat monitor whenusing level up form daily?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Looks like he logged off....I've found he is super responsive when you submit an issue on the code.google site.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: for some reason my mush isn't showing colors after updating, it's showing @ instead
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is it all in black and white?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: nodnod
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Try rawcolors?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: ah that helped, thanks mend
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im learning all kinds of stuff today
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: NP - no reason why that would turn on though with a new client install.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Holliday - rawcolors is great for grabbing clan colors really fast :)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea i wish i woulda known that before screwing up restrings
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth comforts Doc Holliday.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: amy clue as to why simple triggers wont work in my Mushclient?  I want to simply make a trigger so that when my frouping partners i will sit down just in case im afk and follow them on a quest
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: when your what?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: frouping!
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What are you trigger off of?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: The line You are slapped by 
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you are slapped by what?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: but even a simple one like that I can't get it to work, i don
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers#I_tried_making_a_trigger_but_it_isn%27t_firing._The_pattern_i
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: do you have triggers turned on?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: it only is for thmy partners name
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: nice try hah
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its a simple question
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: Im not sure, i dont see a global option for spellups of or off
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Keyer: read that link
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure your pattern is actually going to work
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: thanks Fiendish ill check it out
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Is there a way to use a semi colon in Mushclient without it being parsed as a separator? Want to put one in my title..
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ;
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Yes, just like that
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: double 
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Paloma Tech: Many thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayudeme Dangladesh Tech: Can I store variables on the droid app?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What's the best droid app for MUSHing?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh crap, err Aarding
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar D glanced at the word MUSHclient when i was looking to spell aardwolf lol
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: blowtorch is most common i believe
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Laird Lornaco Tech: I use Blowtorch, its not too bad but haven't spent a lot of time using it.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Good enough for questing on the go?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Any regex experts know the regex error in this: match = "^(.*?)tester\.$" Mush is giving me the invalid escape sequence near '"^(.*?)tester' in the new Mushclient.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it might not like the ?, depending what version of regex it's using...
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and in that case it doesn't change anything anyway, i don't think?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not even sure what that means - I'm more of a trial and error regexer :)
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: why would shen someone doors to me, it looks like i typed 'map' every time :P
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: eh?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: is there a way to observe any script or plugin that outputs "map" command? seriously annoying whenever someone doors the ACSII map shows up
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that would be the map capture plugin, i assume
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I don't have the minimap plugin even installed
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I don't like it
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I ahve gmcp maper, but not the ancsii  mapper for room map
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: in mush, what's the command to echo a text phrase to the game window? I tried echo("x") and it didn't work.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone really good with mushclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: to what extent?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm probably not, just wondering what you need.
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: finding a way to see what is outputting a command
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: something is triggering a certain command and its an annoyance
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah that would suck
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: my experience is that it's best to just throw out your question
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: tech -h would show my question, i asked it once already
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: whenever someone doors to me the ACSII map automatically is displayed, as if someone dooring trigs the 'map' command
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chisato Tech: could anyone help me with a mushclient issue i've lost most of my stat boxes and the group box from my display and can't figure out how to get them back'
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: 'reset_aard' or something?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: or was it resetaard?
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chisato Tech: it was restarted
T3/r5/2012-01-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: so it worked after you did that command?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish yawns.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: Is there a way to have an alias capture several words easily?  I want to alias the "mapper area ... " command
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Is there a way to tell mapper to avoid a certain room? Currently on Masq Island it's routing me through the bar which has the aggro durnk.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Delete the exit manually, or add a level lock
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: deleting the exit doesnt work.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: next time around, the mapper adds it again
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: So, level lock or cexits that move around it.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: How do you level lock a room? I don't see it in mapper help.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: right click it on the minimap, you'll see an option to level lock in a direction
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: ah okay thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefertiti Tech: when logging a window in zmud to a specific text file, how do I stop the echo that starts with "Appending to log:..."? each time a line is logged?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefertiti Tech: anyone?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The rest of the world uses MUSHclient, sorry.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nefertiti Tech: heh thanks, very helpful.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Hmmm... there is a way, I know I used to be able to log without those messages except at the first time after starting zmud...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dammit. My MUSHclient broke down. The configuration window won't open.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, got fixed. Yay!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: does anyone know how to use the lock thingie in the most recent version of aard mush to lock the windows where they are? i cant remember and cant find it :(
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try lock layout or layout lock
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no go :(
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, "aard layout lock"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hm
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that it'll only be locking the included miniwindows, not things like bast's
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yay, thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when in doubt, the root of your mushfolder has a file "AardwolfPackageChanges.txt" which is easy to search for things like this :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ooooooooooh
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohhh and while we're at it ok having extremely weird mush issue.. im using most recent aardmush + bast's plugins. whenever i use a clientside alias, it enters the alias correctly but then it also sends the alias through to the mud. so say i have mm for quaff mana it also sends mm to the mud :( any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: halp! mush is talking to me and acting like a screenreader!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Lucky you *foreveralone*
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: how do i fix it??
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: can you describe a little more what is happening?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it's talking!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is anything else talking?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no, its reading descriptions
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i use the latest version of aard, anyone?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i closed everything and its most definitely mush
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: cool
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: didn't know mush could do that
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: me neither but i need it to stop :(
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Me neither. I need to find out how to do that
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: oh, that's easy
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: turn the speakers off
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: im trying to make a phone call/skype
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa rolls on the floor laughing at Swalec's antics!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: why do i always break things!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: IDK... Did you check your proccesses if any screen-reader type program is running?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What v of windows?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: vista
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: skill? brilliance?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does vista have the mixer when you click the volume icon like 7 does?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can see which processes are accessing the sound codecs with that mixer
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It it MUSHclient doing it?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ah! i can mute mush
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: a temporary fix, ok, fabulous :) ill harass more about this later rest assured
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just came in, but mush can do that?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would say a VI plugin somewhere...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any VI users on?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Who wants an email/chat buddie?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: Why on earth is Lasher asking for donations. How much does this guy get paid?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoragen Tech: one of my maps will not refresh
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoragen Tech: its stuck on the continent of mesolar
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bilith: from Aard, Lasher doesn't get paid. He works a full-time job to support a family, the donations are to reimburse costs associated with running a large MUD (machine upkeep, colo costs, network redundancy, etc)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: you can pay me though if you like =D
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thoragen, which type of map are you referring to, and what client are you using?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoragen Tech: i fixed it, my brother unpluggled the flash drive MUSHclient was on
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thoragen Tech: sorry for the inconvenience
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: But like. This is big. He should get paid!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd be nice
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if that's the motivation you had for your C# to make a MUD request the other day, don't hold your breath...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUDs are hobbyist endeavors, for the most part
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bilith Tech: I have no comment.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: heh.. so Kingsholm now uses the keyword 'next' to proceed. That's fine, but it messes with WinkleWinkle's mapper extender plugin, which uses the word next in walking to specific rooms. Is there a way to specify that I want to send the word 'next' to the mud without it being interpreted by the plugin, without disabling it?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: modify the Winkle plugin to interpret "next" as going to the next room (or change "next" to something more appropriate in the plugin, say "nx" 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: Yeah, it does use 'nx' as well.. I haven't modified plugins before, but I should just remove the use of the word 'next' if possible.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what does "next" do in the Winkle plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: There should be a way to specify sending to the mud instead of through a plugin/script
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: you might want to wait it out, he will likely put out an update soon
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: just add a space before next
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: Yeah, putting a space before it works, actually. Thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: yeah, just ran into that problem myself :P
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: what exactly does "next" in that plugin do?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: take you to your next cp target but require you to blink to kill so it's technically not "automatic" ?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: runs to the next possible room match, as far as I can tell
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: takes you to the next room if the plugin gave you a list of similar rooms
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Calandril nods at Chimeishio.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: it goes to room, not mob
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: you could turn winkles plugin into a bot with about 4 or 5 triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish stretches luxuriously.  Kinda makes you want to doesn't it? 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: change plugin "next" to "ntr"  next target room  -- less movement of fingers to type "ntr"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: any pressing questions about mushclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nope not at this time 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not on my end at least
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: ok. so my muchclient seems to be on the fritz - where can I find and backup the maps?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there should be a backups folder inside of your mushclient folder
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: called db_backups
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your current map database should be the Aardwolf.db file
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then older backups will be inside the db_backups folder
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: Thanks. I just wanted to back it up as I try to figure this out
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: on basts spellup somehow haste has been disabled on my slist, when i try to enable it, i get a message saying that haste is not a spell....
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: any thoughts..pointers
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bsp senable haste works for me
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: why does help say oenable then
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oenable is for spelling up others
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: it has two ways to enable....or is o for groups?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: senable is for self
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well looky there the man himself
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thanks for the plugins btw
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: np
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: had a bunch of trouble with errors when i started using them but i think it was my stuff acting up
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: still get the random save state error when i start up sometimes
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Why do CAPTCHAs have to be so complicated? Are there programs actually that good at reading them if they're not totally obscured?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, I find Captcha's difficult to read, and I'm not even visually impaired
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: hate em meself
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle says 'Botting is like a drunk weasel.  It's only fun until someone gets caught'
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: could be worse, could use Chinese characters :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Or a bar graph.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Seen that one. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I prefer the basic math question captchas
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so do captcha bots
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: sadly no matter what we do, someone of dubious character is always going to find a workaround
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: talking about catching bots?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: more like the consequences the honest user suffers because of those who do bot
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i saw a proof of concept for breaking colored, fuzzy, captchas with 6 lines of python
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so readable basic math problems are very, very easy to break
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: meh agreed
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: What does the color have to do with it?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the worst captcha ever was used on rapidshare. you know, the one with cats
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think i failed 2 out of 3 times with these
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: example: http://blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cat.jpg
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good luck
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that is horrible
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: lol where did you hear about that python thing?  That is hardcore coding obscure :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: the coolest programming lang that ppl have never heard of :p
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh, i can't find the 6 line one, but there's a bit more advanced 26 line one out there. just google it
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I am trying to set a trigger to play a sound when someone has completed a global quest.  So I set the trigger to look for "Global Quest:" but for some reason it doesn't pick it up.  Any ideas?  I am using MUSHclient.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try this http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers#I_tried_making_a_trigger_but_it_isn%27t_firing._The_pattern_i
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that would match a line that was exactly Global Quest: - you want Global Quest:*
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: great thanks guys!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that'll fire on every line with that message though, including when someone wins a gq
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could use the more exact message Global Quest: See 'Help Global Quests', or, type 'Gquest Join' to take part.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: then it would only fire when a gq was called in your range
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: so without the asterisk if it does not match the whole line it will not pick it up?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: correct
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: gotcha thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you think its possible to quest on blowtorch?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: of course
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: if you can quest on telnet you could do it on bt
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}^~SireN~^ Oceania Tech: ellllllllllla
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: meh i guess you can quest on bt if you know the areas lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i got a place where hunt didint wwork
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: hunts for newbs
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and im what? :D
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: who hunts for newbs?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how is hunting for noobs fun? lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: IMO blowtorch isn't the best way to MUD from an android device
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, sometimes they drop stuff they didn't mean to or didn't know the worth of.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to use a telnet/ssh app on the droid to connect to a computer running a real MUD client
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: blowtorch connecting to computer running mud client is awesome
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you full client/scripting functionality, an ensures that you're not trying to duplicate all efforts on two dissimilar systems
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: snap! so how do i do that??
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is it a long process?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what client you use on the computer
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: atm, im using MUSH downloaded from the aardsite
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for GUI clients like MUSHclient & z/cmud, it's a longer process than it is when you use CLI clients like tintin++ and tinyfugue
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats very changeable lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Isn't also inherently slower?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Er, "Isn't it"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use duckbat's GMCP proxy to "mux" MUSHclient and the phone, which would then allow you to use things like mapper goto...but there's a fair bit of setup for that to work
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is what inherently slower?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Connecting to a GUI client.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really, since you're still not using the GUI
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well it sounds like its worth it tbh....
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: extra latency from your connection to the host computer
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's slower to use things like RDP or VNC
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wasn't sure how the duckbat proxy compared to ssh as for speed, I assumed somewhat slower.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just a telnet relay
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's basically an expanded version of mcclient
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: headed home ill be back. anyone help me get the basics setup? lol i really want the ability to quest every 30 minutes
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're quite able to quest even without any of these setups, blowtorch on its own can do it...aard has runto already to get you most of the way there
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i quest on blowtorch every night
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the blowtorch touch circle thingie is a good thing to get used to using
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have a crappy android phone tho so it doesnt work as well as it should
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i use alot of buttons, pluss my phone has a keypad so...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: samsung replenish 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: htc merge
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woah an htc, those are good right?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i like mine
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well this phone cost me ten bucks lol and aard is an amazing game to be able to run here lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any savvy linux sysadmins? I'm wondering if I can use a single shell account to setup a tintin server.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ok, so is there a guide online for mixing MUSH and my phone?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or do i have to ask someone
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes - although I wouldn't think it's called a server?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: endaloth, probably not, not really
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: @mendaloth, probably not, not really
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yes, you can
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I was thinking of just using ssl or some other encryption method with a password argument for allowing multiple people (using the same user info) to keep their settings private.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: in Mushclient is there a limit on paer lengths for mapper goto?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I am getting a message saying "could not find a path to withun 4 rooms -- which doesn't seem like it's a long search
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Click the little star on the top left corner of the map, adjust the depth.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i could help, but i have no idea what you're trying to do
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's currently on 300
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you have a vps account or something? root/non-root user? what do you want to use it for?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Anyone explain to a noob what mapper is for?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mapping?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: mapping, running to areas/rooms.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whats its practical use?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: mapping, running to areas/rooms.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: with a few more scripts it's used for botting cps and gqs
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: working out where things are, and getting places
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oh i see, so i can look in my map and figure out where a room is?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the path to get there from where you are
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep that's the idea
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Dagnir, I have a non-root account. Something I used in the past to host another mud. I'd like to convert it to a tintin host where for people without access to a linux machine to use for phone-mudding.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That's generally what a map does, yes, Vadar. :p
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh wow thats awesome, how do i set it up on my MUSHclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: It's...already set up? It's the map...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's already set up in the aard client package
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i have all the map in here?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or do i have to update it
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "mapper help"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Vadar, comes standard.  did you download directly from mushclient?  You need to install the version from the Aardwolf.com website.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aaah i see
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Well, you have to explore the map to uncover areas, but yes, in theory the map is technically there...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd just give everyone their own account and that's it. dunno how to do it as non-root user tho
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ooh ok, so i can't go to places that i haven't been before
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knows about all the continents and everywhere you've been since using the client
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Once you've been there, you'll always know where "there" is.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: gotcha
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i have to explore everywhere first
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you can install stuff with --prefix flag on ./configure tho
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is that under help bot dagnir?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: some low level areas are premapped
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: With a couple exceptions, yes, Vadar, it helps to explore to get the most use.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well that's the issue, I don't want to use my linux machine, and I don't have permission to add users on the other. You have to pay for extra users.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, people couldn't (1) use teh same user and (2) keep their info private...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not to say that they couldn't simply not store autologin info
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: They could with password encryption
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Enlighten me?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. since you're on the same account, they know what you know
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What kind of Password encryption would you use? i dont see how it would work
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: enlighten us on how you see this workflow...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Maybe your awesomer than us lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: favourite workflow involves sleeping while someone else does it
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I thought only the person who encrypted the file with the given password would be able to open it back up
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can be done, but it isn't really workable...not convenient enough
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: In theory that works, but how would you do it?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I would create a script that deencrypts the file starts tintin++ with the file, then encrypt the file again.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd want them to manually unencrypt the file when they log in (and remember, it's now unencrypted for others logged in simultaneously), and re-encrypt it after they're done making changes...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: that would take forever if its a good encryption wouldn't it?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, wouldn't take long
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that would be only an illusion of security
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because, like i said, if you share the user the others will know what you know
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But I wouldn't know the encryption password, only the person who encrypted it first. That would be done by the "user"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm failing to see why the file would need to be encrypted in the first place?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, and what if someone else logs on when it's unlocked?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It is only unlocked long enough for it to be loaded into tintin
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the plan is still retarded
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: HEY! Special!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Perhaps I can explain better. I would give out the user login/pass to Dagnir. I would create a Dagnir folder under /home/user. Inside that folder would be all the stock tintin settings I've got. Dagnir would edit/create his own custom tintin file to load that would customize the setup for them and allow them to add/remove settings in the future. Dagnir would run a script with a password argument that would handle the encryption.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just get a vps with root access and give people their own accounts
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stickyicky Weed Tech: That word hurts my delicate nature.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think mine costs like 10# a month. sharing it with a few friends
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm not sure if I could afford it, I'll look into it though. Thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way to import maps into mappper?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm running around exploring places :D
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: be careful vad dont run into somewhere you might regret
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: things out there can kill ya
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i should'nt do that?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can copy someone else's map database, but it'll likely include all their portals and stuff too that you don't have
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just stay in areas that are your lvl range 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Then they can type mapper portal delete or something.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So it's definitely possible?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: Possible, but what is the fun in that? Much better to explore the mud yourself.. even a well set up mapper can't replace mud knowledge.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods at Calandril.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I try to get people to realize that.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i want your map fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it certainly makes things a lot more efficient
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sell your map fiendish!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: And this is from someone who loves the mapper. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: If you just copy the data from someone else you're just missing out part of the fun of exploring the game.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not to mention, everyone has the custom exits setup differently.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you only deprive yourself by doing it
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Calandril nods at Turie.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh i explore, i die, i go back explore some more...still fun
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: and you won't know where its dangerous to run through :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol now THATS the fun
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i use online maps in a pinch you would just save me thr trouble lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: An example would be someone who has the passdoor wish and someone who does not. You would have issues with doors.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well isnt having mapper like having all the online maps in one shot?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: because i find myself using the map a LOT to figure out my CP's
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: online maps anyways
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't have passdoor wish, but I do have permanent passdoor after level 166
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you can always just quaff a potion with passdoor lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Why 166, Fiendish?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because i'm t3
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I have an item that is level 196
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: Vadar, that's true, but some level ranges you won't be able to use those.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: A lot more level ranges than 166+. :p
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I know! I figured that out the hard way. I focused on leveling for too long, got to level 156 and now its hard to quest
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and i need 300 lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: to Remort
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i want passdoor, tired of opening doors
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: buy the wish
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: you should be questing every time your timer is up, always
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or carry around skeleton key rags
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Go wnw of recall and buy 10 key
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yup, what Fiendish said lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i don't see it in the help area, is there a way to delete a normal exit out of the mapper database?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Right click on the room in the mapper and edit exits.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you have to add the hidden exits yourself?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: not necesarily
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: cexits yesy
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yes*
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Depends on the situation. It is a yes and no answer.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: gotcha
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: in this case there is an exit that you can't ever get through even though its a standard door in the room
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: so the mapper is trying to treat it as such
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aah i see
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: can a campaign require you to wait for a place to repop to finish it?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: for example i have to kill 3 senior bonded students.. and they're all the same it seems.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so it can be the exact same mob i have to kill 3 times?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: they aren't the same mob
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ok thanks, cause i'm running around killing all of them
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: they may have the same name, but be based on different vnums
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: use the hunt trick,  hunt 1.mobname,2.mobname,etc until you find one you can't hunt, then where x.mobname to get the room it is in
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the mob could be dead already, forcing you to wait for a repop.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh nice
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: forgot about that
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks that got it :D
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if the mobs are dead already, no command other than cp check/cp info will reveal any information about the number of mobs in an area using the same keywords
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: what's the extended mapper command to resume a speedwalk?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: mapper resume
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Bast's spellup is saying I don't have levit practiced, anyone know how I get it to recognize I actually do?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: practice more
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's at 85%
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Try exporting you spell list, removing them all and reinputing the information.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Thanks I'll try that.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does anyone have experience with ajaxterm?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: in the stock mapper, does a cexit trump normal exit?  ie, if it thinks it can use a normal exit or a cexit to do the same move, will it preferentially use one?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: awesome.  thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: so with that built in mapper on mush is it possible to type a command to runto a specific room within area
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read 'mapper help'
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: why does it say {chan ch=tech} on zmud before tech posts
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because you had tags enabled by something
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: mush client
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there you go
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: mack on zmud
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: probably mush...type tags off to turn them off
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no way for mushclient to disable tags when you log off
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: how do i disable and will they go back on if/when i use mush again
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read help tags, and yes
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: they'll go back on when you use mush
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: cool cool
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay.. my mush is (still) acting like a screen reader and i cant find any plugins that might remotely be the reason
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define acting like a screen reader
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: exactly!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: its reading the screen at me!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: descriptions you name it, its weird!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you didn't do this?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nope
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not...anything remotely like default behavior
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lmao
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: windows narration?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i know :( i dont know how this stuff keeps happening
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey does anyone know which ipad apps are out or in development
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: yes but its only mush
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you have a roommate?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or a child who hates you?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae giggles.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nope
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well I don't actually know how screen reading works, so can't help there
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza shrugs helplessly.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just a thought
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: post a note on the tech board?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think there is a plugin that comes in default install that does screen reading isn't tehre?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: have you tried downloading a new copy of mush just to see if it does the same thing?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no idea
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: this is a new copy of mush, i just re=did it
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i remember it having an optional text to speech plugin but it isnt installed
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Press CTRL+SHIFT+P is Sapi_speaker in the list?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i have a lua_sapi..
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Or try  sapi off
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: BRILLIANCE
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae looks at Mendaloth and swoons in ecstasy.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohh you are brilliant <3 thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think I did that once somehow - it was funny until it got old!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i dont think i could ever play by screenreader
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well I think they speed it up a lot and use sapi skip a lot too
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i liked the asterickasterickasterickasterick bit
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i think they strip out alot of channels/tags/etc
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: but its awesome that theres another version that works beter
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anyone know when the last CMUD update was?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I think you can check the sticky post for the last edit date.  I think it was Mayish, though.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: May's a long time
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just wondering if he's still alive
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: two cross-country moves over the summer capped off by a web-programmer job at a high-profile company that thinks MUDding is a plus on one's resume will do that.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i await the day where mudding becomes something you can be proud you say you did
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I may have actually just gotten a job based on it
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: to say*
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh really Fiend?  that's awesome!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well that and my work in robotics and vision
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but i'm sure it helped!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you tell them you wrote bots?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you know I never made that connection
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the good news is that Zuggsoft.com's not going to go under for financial reasons, the not-so-good news is that while the happiness factor behind Zugg's work and life in general has shot up by a factor of a billion because of the job, he's left with practically no time for zuggsoft.com work until 1)he gets settled in with his new employer and 2)he hires an assistant
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I list my stuff on my resume obliquely... something like "assisting VI users with programming needs to access internet services"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: bot detectors?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Can list me as a reference, Ill explain how you built the mapper that allows me to bot CPs :p
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a lot of ppl forget my plugins were initially aimed to make mudlife easier for VI users
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i forget that sometimes too
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: they are all still VI friendly
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Well, as long as you don't try to assist emacs users.  Those people are insane.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish ruffles WinkleWinkle's hair playfully.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: <3 your spellup script :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I know a few people who have used Lua experience from here on their resume to help land a programming job.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: what makes the spellup script better than the aard spellup
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: <--- even with scripts.... to lazy to CP :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Zox: automation!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: 'mobprog' wouldn't cut it, but lua is a real language.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zox Tech: ah
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ANY scripting knowledge counts.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: even given a couple of them references (although they were imms)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: LUA is very java-like, so should help land any Java job.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: there are CMud users who landed jobs solely on zscript (far as I know, none of them played Aard, though)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think in my case they were actually just looking for someone with experience in autonomous vehicles and computer vision. they just thought the mud client stuff was interesting
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: I saw LUA listed on a resume and trashed it. Just don't.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you put "LUA" on a resume I'd throw it away too
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: High-class Hotcakes falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because it's not an acronym
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: It would be better than zero experience.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i threw out a resume once that listed a scren capture tool as a skill
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's a pretty important skill
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: was that his typo or yours? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Mad PrtScn skillz.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Listed my pups per hour speed... not much luck though ><
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Thats not really a skill, its a button on a keyboard, heh
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: seen my title?  mine.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: 10 years with Alt-Ctrl-Del under my belt
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hired!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I don't do titles, interferes with my PI bot.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Follow My Rhuli goes ooOOooOOoo.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: alt-f4 :P mortal :P
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Now try out ALT-F4 :D
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Follow My Rhuli gasps in astonishment.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i may be one of the worst typists in teh mud
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Skills: Botted to T9 without getting caught!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: do you use mxit?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: Well, I don't think you'd like what Alt-4 is mapped to...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Notes?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you have a pr0n button?!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: that's on an extended joystick
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: wait, i misspoke
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: You know what I like about the tech channel. Even when it gets slightly off topic, you dont have some channel nazi screaming at everyone :p
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: wireless, huh?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: It's not off topic, we're being technical-like.. sorta.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doink was caught! Run! Channel police monitor Jhav is after you next!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: with the rumblepack, too, I bet.  Bzzzz! Bzzzz!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Tech channel is srs bsns
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hmm. You could swear Doink has been here just a second ago. You wonder where he went ...
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Follow My Rhuli nods at Ixle.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I have to admit screen capture software usage ... That's less useful than knowledge of honeywell mainframe OSes.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: more useful, imo
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the thing with his resume was.. that screen capture is a useful skill, but if you're listing it.. you must be pretty threadbare of skills
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: dunno its amazing how many engineers and cobolites still hold on to those d@mn multix old iron... I think a modern GPU computes them into the dust.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey fiend i got a wierd thing goin on with my pc, it dont wanna turn on after its turned off..have to wait a few min then it usually fires up
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably related to your other problems
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: wierd though cause my install is not that old
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i think my mobo is going to be honest
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this would have nothing to do with software
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i know
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: if mushclient is on that computer then it is your responsibility to fix it.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agreed
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i will do just hat
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he plays aardwolf. that makes it your responsibility
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ironfist Razor nudges Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i make it my personal duty 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the computer looked at the internet once. call Al Gore
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey, i am fixing the wifes laptop so shell stay off this computer
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: He wouldn't like my fix for "he plays aardwolf therefore it is my responsibility"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "Heh."
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im not stopping playing....razor
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Horizontal HyPo chuckles politely.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im just glad i have the ability to do it myself
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im just waiting till it just wont work anymore
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the gpu i ordered for my wifes laptop wont be here till the middle of next month
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: closest one i could find was in the UK or Hong Kong
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just buy a new laptop
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well no
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: gpu 130.00, new laptop similar to the one she has over 2k
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah but totally worth it for that new car smell
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my laptop has a leather interior and woodgrain finish
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah ya know she asked me if i scratched it while disassembling it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i think she is too attached i should put it out in the snow...tell her its good for "cold
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: solder joints
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: moisture is bad for computers, it makes them rust.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: rust...hmmmm
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: maybe salt would help
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: plus, the cold will leech the battery life.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: TONS of salt.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nah, nobody knows where salt is anymore.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Why don't you just build her a cooking oil computer?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i so wanna do that 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: teh mineral oil cooling 
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: I've been talking about doing with a couple buddies of mine for years :P
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: blue backlight
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: cooking oil computer, I can see it now, chuft coming online swearing majic burned the computer yet again.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or disassemble the stove and integrate the laptop into it.  Put new meaning into the phrase "surf and turf".
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i designed a plexiglass enclosure to put behind the monitor and fill teh back of the desk
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: That would rock!
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah and put like a bubble curtain in it to circulate the oil...awesome
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i would be broke all the time if i built everything i dreamed
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: perhaps you should stop dreaming of junk and focus on the quality stuff?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i only buy quality stuff lol
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like 14 year old malaysian girls
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: that's usually the issue :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just when i do i keep it forever and it becomes junk
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: take my pc i am on right now
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also like 14 year old malaysian girls
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: have probably not worth 500 now
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: again
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: when i built it it cost me approx 3,
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: cant afford malaysian girls fiend
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: plus my wife might take issue with it
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: get her a little african boy.  Feed and water it well, he'll grow up and fulfill the archetype.
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ohh my....
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Who wants to earn a tp for quick script :)
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: what client?
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: mush
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well i hope its quikc
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: im better with zmud than mush
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like a reminder script so remind 50 buy this  --- would then when i hit level 50 would alert me to do whatever
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: offering tp for script that will win gqs for me
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but would need to save the reminders through multiple sessions
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define "save"
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that would be pretty simple to do
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: what did lasher do..i missed something
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: spellup
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Spellup
T3/r5/2012-01-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well aint that nice 
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: anyone a co
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a what
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: anyone a computer guru and can help me fix my computer? lol
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: everyone is
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: lol ok heres my story... dad put a netnanny thing on my computer for somereason. blocks certain things. i got mad at it. went and disabled it but it was still goofing off my browser so i went to my drive started deleting the whole netnany program folder. now i can see that i connect to mu router but when i open like internet explorer everything comes up with the fail web page.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for some reason
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: check your hosts file
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: hahaha ya he puts it on as if im on porn 24/7 
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you probably are
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: i do so love it when people "uninstall" stuff by just deleting folders
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: lol nah i seriously dont do porn anymore. u prolly dont believe me but its an uptight christian home.... 
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: you used to do porn?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: omg no not like that 'watch' whatever.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: no joke dude i actually get laid every night by my gf 
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: Palmala Handerson?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: so i dont care for porn
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lies
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: but on a more serious note. if i got my computer to update itself would it sort of mend some of the damage i did?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably not
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you check the hosts file?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: what r those? where r they?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: google for it!
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably something like system32/etc/hosts
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: drivers
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: google for it? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: ok ok i did go to command and ran this command. sfc /scannow    but it didnt find anything wrong
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: you might be able to re-install netnanny then uninstall it the proper way to get rid of it. note the use of the word might.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: duely noted
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: DIABLO 3 BETA INVITE GET! woooooooo
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Badass
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Can anyone think of a reason why the 'wear itemx rfinger' command would be ignoring the wear location?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: clientside scripts
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Guys I need some help, I wrote a new mapper but I need some people to test it. It's version 0.0001 so it can have a lot of bugs / crashes. :P Should work with any mud client. It's at www.duckbat.com/proxytest.zip  works like a proxy that you connect through (check config.server.txt file). If you have further questions please send me a tell.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Maybe I should post a note instead.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it is pretty late for the bulk of the population
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ok. I'll post a note instead. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lucida Tech: is there reason why i cant mapper goto to Stonekeeps entrance?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: where can I get triggers for MUShclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You make them.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: How?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: thanks :)
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how many ppl cp from blowtorch?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just wonderin
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra is from sucktorch
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: We nose you rs.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: Which is the best client to use?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MUSH
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: mush is pretty nice
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ppl still use zmud?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: I like zMud
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sadly, zMUD is a dead program.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: cMUD is on life support or something.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: really? it was big say.. 2years ago
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: zMUD is dead because cMUD replaced it.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: "clients" begs to differ
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: for android stuff, blowtorch is awesome
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: im still working on how to use it though
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i wish they had a good one for apple
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way to setup blowtorch to sent you a notification whenever its time to quest?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nvm just found the setting button lol. timers
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyone blowtorch savvy? or know where i can read a blowtorch guide? need help making a cool timer/trigger for my phone.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: getting spammed my minimap everytime I move, what to do? Using newest mush
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: automap
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: still happening though, should I reboot mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: needs to be a good iphone mud app, i have issh which is nice but doesnt allow for aliases or triggers or anything:(
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: yea blowtorch android only
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: haha can't move for 5-8 seconds after running to any area because im getting spammed
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maprun?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: that I tried and didnt help either, so weird
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You may have something triggering off room names - anf at the end of a run it spits the whole lot into the mud
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: anf = and
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: have no triggers though, only winkles
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Winkle's s&d ? That triggers off room names...
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: To populate it's db, afaik
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Winkle's S&D doesn't USE a database
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (AFAIK)
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So I don't know why it should be triggering off room names.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Doesn't it populate a db with the probable mob contents of rooms?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: just have no idea as to how to fix it
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: not to my knowledge
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Anyone know how I would let program save on closing in .NET console application? I tried the event handler in kernel32 but that doesn't work for Mono users and AppDomain.CurrentDomain.ProcessExit event never fires for some reason.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you mean by the user just clicking the cross to close the window ?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: User closes not the program itself.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: hmmm.  if you set the console app to fire in a new thread, then do what you want it, is there some sort of event for the dispose of the thread ?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Possibly but does pressing the X end the thread properly?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i woulda thought it'd send a close request of some sort, but without playing with it, i don't know
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I'll try it thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ive got a few mins.. did anyone need help?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking after plugin mush with spells affected and duration.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Bast's miniwindow spellup shows that information
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast plugin!
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: where CAN i GET Bast's miniwindow?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: finger bast
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: his website info is there
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can anyone think of a reason why OnPluginInstall isn't being called in a plugin when I install it or reinstall it?  The default values are being set, and I am not seeing the Note I put in the function.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluebelll Tech: hi everyone
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hello
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluebelll Tech: whats up
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Does anyone know how to keep mapper from going into a specific room? Specifically in Masquerade there is a shorcut through the bar, but the angry drunks in it are aggro.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: So I'd like to route it around that room.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: We went over this yesterday. What happened to your level locks?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: I looked at the mapper help and coudln't figure out how to level lok the room.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click the room in the window and look at the options
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Rick click on the room in the mapper.  Provided you have an updated version.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Pretty easy stuff.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: right...
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Okay cool thanks a bunch!
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mendaloth: figure out onplugininstall?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Naw not yet.  Moved on to another plugin, but if you have some ideas :)
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: honestly, OnPluginInstall is kind of redundant, since any code not in a function gets run on install
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I can't say why yours isn't working without seeing what it looks like
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm thanks - just moving it outside of onplugininstall worked
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i just want to thank everyone who introduced me to BlowTorch lol. im questing every thirty minutes for the win!
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: your welcome, thanks for the laptop advice
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im on blowtorch now lol
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i personally gave you laptop advice? lol
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: same lol i just neeed to figure out how to setup a quest time with a notification
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not sure you might have been in on a conversation once or twice lol
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol, ill take it. so your welcome haha
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: there is a timer goto menu
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, but i want the timer to start for 30 minutes the moment i finish a quest.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: dont have mine set up yet either but my screen is full of buttons
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what phone?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: you can also set up a button to switch button sets
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well it sounds like its worth it tbh....
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well it sounds like its worth it tbh....
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well it sounds like its worth it tbh....
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woops
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: messed up a trigger sorry
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: can you set a button to start a timer?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: does anyone ever get the chatlog error that prevents logging of the communication log in which a restart of the mushclient resolves it?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i had one yesterday opening a link but not ever what you described
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: tack traceback:
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: hmm..nm
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: anybody know how to make alias in gmud?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: i want to type one thing and it replaces with a bunch of commands
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and you want to use gmud?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Imp Druzil Tech: not really, but i don't want to use tinyfugue or run mushclient through wine
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Heros: you wouldn't by any chance have a log of the error would you?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: quick question, do you guys have a recommendation for a free sqlite3 browser 
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's a firefox plugin, but I use sqlitebrowser
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thnks will try. Unfortunately the firefox plugin seems to be incompatible with latest firefox update...
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that sucks
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: Can anyone point me to a good plugin/set of aliases for Aard amulet speedwalks?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what client?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: Aardmushclient 4.81
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't want to use the mapper for that?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: not sure what you mean to be honest.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ahhh
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one sec i'll give you a link
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try reading   http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper   and   http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can tell the gmcp mapper about any portals you have and it will use them to calculate shorter runs
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: hmm it says the page isnt there
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which page isn't there?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I gave two links :)
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: i had programs running that were blocking http a bit so i got it to work hah
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Anyone extremely savvy on BlowTorch? I want to create a trigger that starts when i get the completed quest message. The trigger will start a timer that gives me a notification 30 minutes from the completed quest message that says "TIME TO QUEST"
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is this possible? if so, how do i do it?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why create a timer instead of just triggering on the you can quest message?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Was gonna say the same thing Abel
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only reason for a timer is to have it NOT be half an hour...have it be 18 mins saying "get ready to quest soon"
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err 28 mins
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oooh, you see this is why i ask smarter people with common sense
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Thanks abe
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: smart != common sense
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yes, it is possible to do timers in blowtorch
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but wait, what if it times me out?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: common sense takes a type of intelligence, actually :P
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: should i do the timer in case it times me out?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: my brother in law is genious level IQ, but he is dumber than a box of rocks as far as common sense is concerned
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it times you out, the message wouldn't be useful anyway
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or will Blowtorch run the trigger even if i have it running in the background?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the trigger wouldn't have text to trigger on
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the blowtorch docs have an example of a tick timer (with seeing-tick-message time correct) which would be good to use for this
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=timers
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Alrighty abe, i put a trigger to go off on "QUEST: You may now quest again."
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and that will send me a notification to quest
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool beans :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: do you know how long i can leave BT running in the background idel?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: can i leave it more than 30mins?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a good use of a timer for you would be sending something to keep you from timing out ;-)
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz Aard will kick you off for inactivity
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So what should i do then, a timer for how long?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: every 5 minutes gulp a fountain at nwn recall? lol
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yes, or just a trigger on the "Your eyes glaze over." message
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every 10 or 20 mins is enough...I just send a blank line
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timers are better than triggers, though
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: How long for the Your eyes glaze over message?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: roughly 10 min
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i'll do 9 minutes then?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: you can jsut trig off of the eyes glaze message
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, but then it's liable to break like it did a couple years ago...timer never breaks and is less work for your client
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah i'm doing a timer
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i did 480 seconds = 8 minutes
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: fair enough, Abe
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just switched to BT thank you abe!!
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: british telecom?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What determines whether the mapstart tag display before or after the room name?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapnames
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the roomname within the maptags is different than the roomname itself
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapnames technically doesn't adjust the placement of the tag. It adjusts whether or not the map sends an additional copy of the room name.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah I understand
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that's what my second statement was about
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluebelll Tech: anyone
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: would inserting records into a mysql db be faster using lua and the mysql library or ssh to the database server with a mysql shell? would there be a difference at all?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i'd imagine lua should be faster
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: that being said, the performance wasn't great last time i tried
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: but Zugg has made considerable improvements to the DB functionality of cMud since then
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: unless you're talking Mush
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: would using cmud's sql commands be faster than lua?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i never did figure out how to use them right...
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: I think so, if you can get them working
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: they can be a bit sensitive to versions
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'll experiment a bit, i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: faster?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the limiter on sqlite speed won't be the parser
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's mysql, not sqlite
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh sorry
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and actually, i thought of another possibility... i'd imagine just generating insert statements in a text file then running it with phpmyadmin would be the best? that way it's not being sent over the network
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: not sure, i never tried that
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<sarcasm> Forestseer Tech: i was always looking for a solution that would let me share one central DB
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: gt those guys are gay :P
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: mis :P
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kaof has called an Epic Fail on Arystul! Kaof = 1 Arystul = 0
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: how do i remove an accidentally created button on my android app for aardwolf
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: click and hold on it
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: thanks I did that nothing happened but I didnt hold it longenough now its gone
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Whats Paging? Pagesize 0, what does that command do on MUSH?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Follow My Rhuli Tech: Have you read help pagesize?
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: havent thanks, Didnt think it was in game.
T3/r5/2012-01-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Follow My Rhuli nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bluebelll Tech: hi everyo.e
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: so, anyone know a way I can get a room in mush to flag itself 'norecall'?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try recalling in it
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using the mapper? If you recall in it it does it itself
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Arystul nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (you might need to update)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: can you Id rooms or something ? 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper showroom or something like that
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: mapper thisroom shows it as noportal, but not norecall.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's in mapper help to see details on current room
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: or hover over the room in the gfx miniwin
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I can see that it is missing the flag.  I need it to get the flag.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you type recall?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I get the message telling me that I can't.  but the flag doesn't get set, like it usually does.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: where are you
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: queendom
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it the usual message, or does that room have a custom block message?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: usual.  <deity> has forsaken you.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's curse
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: that is curse, not norecall
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: norecall message is You cannot recall from this room.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: type 'saf bad' to check...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first, make sure you're not cursed
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: oh.  lovely.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, I'm cursed.  my bad.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're not cursed, then you can force it on the room by typing "echo You cannot recall from this room."
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just typed runto 18th and ended up somewhere strange - a command I don't know about ?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 18th dynasty?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't have runto anywhere
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: yeah thats where I was headed
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ok I'll try again 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would guess a plugin is interfering, native runto does nothing on rt 18th
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just did the same thing , from quest typed runto 18th and it puts me on the path to the arena in Aylor , leftover speedwalk or something ? 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: no big deal just curious 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's one of the plugins you're running...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd guess something from swalec or winkle
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're the two people I know offhand who have done runto replacement type stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: I don't think it is Winkle's stuff.. I'm running that one and it doesn't seem to do anything when I type that.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ok cool it is from the mapper plugin then I think 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not the mapper plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper plugin doesn't intercept runto
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ok , it's all just stock stuff , I've not d/l anything except the MUSH client and the bells n whistles that it comes with out of the box 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: How do you unlock your plugins in Mush so you can move them around again?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you've made an alias of your own at some point
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: , lol wow sleepscripting , thats a first :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: Thank you Abe
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: how do you change output colors of a plugin on mush
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alter the plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: yeah, but the colors are like clr1 clr2 etc.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless the particular plugin offers an interface to change its colors
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did I miss a nerd funny?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And incidentally, it is spelt Vader...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hannibalec nows a good time to shh lol
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dam i typed tech instead of tell lol
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Follow My Rhuli falls down laughing.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: howdy all
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Whatup Lrynnn, bring me a tech problem
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well sure which one you want
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: The one that i can fix, and will make me sound very smart.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: that i need new everthing would be my guess
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: got one
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: 780i mobo, q6600proc, 4gigs ocz ram
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: turn it off and it wont turn back on
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: pro tip for sounding smart: don't ask for help on the mapper when you're cursed.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not the switch
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: pwr button on mobo doesnt do the trick eitehr
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yebald I've never doen that.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @Tyebald
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: of course not, vadar.  no one in their right mind would.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: so vadar?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is this the same laptop as last time Lrynn? Have you changes the CMOS battery yet?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: changed*
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nope this is the computer im on right now
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, I would check the CMOS battery on this one too...how did you get it started up this time then?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im thinking pwr supply
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: what's the issue again?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it is the one you are on now, how did you start it up this time???
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: 780i mobo, q6600proc, 4gigs ocz ram
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: turn it off and it wont turn back on
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i just had a power outage lol
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: pwr button on mobo doesnt do the trick eitehr
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm running too many heaters sorry about that
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i use my computer for heat
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: mine runs too cool
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: sounds like a jet taking off
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Seriously though, is there to be no answer to my q Lrynn?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh i just saw the question
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: ah..is it a Dell?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You said if you turn it off it won't turn back on again - how did you learn this and yet still be able to type on it
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nope not a dell
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i hit the switch on the pwr supply till the little blue light came on 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my question is vakiehs question
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: then it still wasnt so i hit it again till a little orange light came on with the blue light and vola
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So you hammered the power button until it worked?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: is your laptop plugged in or you drawing power off the battery?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you played around with it until it really came on...sounds like either bad switch or bad entire psu
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: pretty much
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Swap out the PSU - either have it checked, or swap it, depending on price
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah tech on the net sais that blinking blue light has something to do with a 5v standby rail
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dodgy PSUs aren't worth the risk - they link to far pricies components
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ach - pricier*
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its a toughpwer gold edition
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Under warranty?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah about 6 yrs ago lol
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: which form what i read the psu could be the root of alot of my problems i have had
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh laptop update....video card is in hong kong wont be here for at least 2 weeks
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i can make a car and call it The legend of Zelda?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Again - not nomenclature - The Legend of Zelda is a title, not a name
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, mischan
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Goggles named Google, though? All good
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ach, another mis
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically it's both a title and a name...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how do i copy something with the colors in MUSH?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ctrl + d
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Enlibar Tech: hmm is there a way to make the mush client so i can see all the text instead of just some of it?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: anyone is "expert" with aardwolf client triggers?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: i'm trying to capture something multilne but seem dont work
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: it doesn't help alot
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: can find any that cover multiline triggers....and few samples i got dont work
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreatWizard Tech: I get this messages whenever somehting happens like {affoff}72 when a spellup spell wares off. Is it possible to stop this?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: try 'tags spellups off'
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: check out the tags options.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas is agreeing with that Witch-king Sammael person again...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=10010
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreatWizard Tech: Ah thanks Sammael !
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: Turie maybe u can help me with this...i want to match 2nd line output from "scan" command to make send cons %1 where "%1" is the mob name
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: how should i write the trigger for that?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I do not know.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: ^^
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blackreaver Tech: anyone is practice with multiline triggres?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes me
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: I downloaded the MUSHclient from aardwolf, how do I adjust the colours, some of them are almost too dark to read.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> ansi colors
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/AardwolfColors
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It might help you too.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: thanks, thats a big improvement.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Hmmm... is there a good already-made plugin for creating my own eq database? I don't want to just store items I have, but like any and all items I run into while out exploring.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I know there's at least one per client in operation, but I haven't heard of any of them being shared.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Mmm. There is bast's eq plugin, but it seems to be designed primarily for your own gear.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy had a nice one public for zmud, that would store your stuff, look up stuff in iwuvaard, and add stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's tough to do one in general, though, because of stock vs enchanted, randomized stats, etc
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: That I can understand.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I just kinda like randomly collecting useless data. ;)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: work for the government then
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: are there any "rules" that let us identify an item as unmodified?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can look for i/r/s, but can't look for the other enhancements
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: a/s/l?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: too old/more please/in your dreams
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what about the unique flag?  Wouldn't that show up for the other enchants?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some items come with the flag anyway
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the only way you could do it for sure is if the id command gave you vnums for the items
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which i doubt it ever will
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: anyone confident in their skills with regular expressions?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: not me, i dont even know what those are
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ask away
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: post it on here and ask away
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to just ask the question
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: having trouble capturing a multi-line trigger, mushclient isn't recognizing the newline char. \n or \r?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try capturing both
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: stack them?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: in either order
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nods, because technically new line should be \n\r
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll try :)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (or \r\n)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you check the "multi-line match" checkbox?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yeah, multi-line's checked Abe
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: I had a similar issue but outputting to a text file, mush didnt recognise \n\r until I doubled up the \ for both
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you trying to match?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, if it's java/javascript syntax, you have to escape every \
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: got it working now. error wasn't \n but I fat-fingered an extra slash in the digit capture :) Thanks for all the advice!
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: in mushclient, is there a command to toggle enable/disable a group of triggers?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnableTriggerGroup
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: thank you!
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11368
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bilith pouts. 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prostula Tech: oh i got my comp fixed btw
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: how would you capture a word of unknown length with reg exp?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: (\w+)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: assuming the word only had letters and numbers in it
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: w only matches letters
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: there might be a few other characters that \w gets depending on the language
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: alternatively
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ([a-zA-Z0-9]+) would work too in many implimentations
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite thanks None the Wyza heartily.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd work in all implementations
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: eh, not all regex are created equally
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but [] is, the \w is the variable
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: tech i thought i had seen ones where a-z wouldn't work, where you had to spell out each possible character class
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is there a \x?  Not sure if %x is a zscript-only convention that gets translated into the longer regex equivalent.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's variable (and often controllable) whether you must specify capitals separately, but a range in a character class will always exist
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: \x## is for character codes in hex, in pcre
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: when using invdetails on an object that has skill mods, shouldn't tell you what those skillmods are or at least how much of a mod it is?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it probably should, yes
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: Can anyone help me find the help file for mush i just DLed it i have win 7
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9842&page=999
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sorry, wrong site.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: thanks bro.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: er Ok
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10127
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: This one should work.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I prefer to download http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=166421...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The link I posted shows you that and how to deal with it.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that helps with many programs, not just MUSHclient, and lets the helps work right from within mush
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you follow a few links and manually type addresses it does...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in other words, not really :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Magna: It gives you the link you need to download the helpfile zip too.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turie: if you follow more links, scroll past lots of stuff and then manually type an address that you see
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: He needs http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/MUSHclient_4.73.zip
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no he doesn't
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wrong file.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Oh brother.......
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the microsoft download, you don't need anything other than what fiendish packages, it just all works
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: And the who helpfile is in the thing?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I was told that it was pulled. After 4.50.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: MUSHclient help
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: How do you deal with a trigger when ** appears in a line of information?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: \*\*
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: regex does not seem to work.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: \*\*
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: regex works, [*][*] or again \*\*
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: http://www.regular-expressions.info/
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: great site...I use the text editor written by the guy that makes that site :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It needs to be ^\*\* to work not just \*\*
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the particular thing you're trying to match
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ^ has nothing to do with the *s, it's just anchoring the pattern...but you don't use the ^ if you're not using the regex
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: \*{2} would work, too
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You don't have to type anything to enable gmcp, it's just supposed to be enabled if your client supports it right?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: correct
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, it's negotiated
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if your mapper is working then gmcp is working :)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your client would need to be set for which gmcp modules it wants to accept
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, someone just connected with tintin++ 2.00.8 which I know supports gmcp, but it's not enabled for some reason
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "prot" to see whether gmcp is on, and "prot gmcp" to see which modules are on
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone here have a kindle fire?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah, gmcp isn't turned on under 'protocols'
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they'd need to load the gmcp tt file
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It should've been loaded, let me investigate that
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tt doesn't "really" support gmcp, it supports arbitrary things
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ooh, more color options
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i didn't know aard got more colors, cool
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it supports xterm-256
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: has there been much use of it in items/areas/etc? 
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not much...imo there shouldn't be
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: is there much overhead in doing the "closest color" conversion?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not likely
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people see new features and puke them all over the place, and that's a horrible thing to do (custom exits, anyone?)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lol, true that.  I've been guilty of that once or twice in my years of programming myself
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: magna has an aversion to progress
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in the least...I have a real problem with gratuitous use of features which is the opposite of progress
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, nor that it's now the only thing which should be used
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: using 256 colors vs 16 colors doesn't strike me as gratuitous so much as flexible
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using it yes...overusing it, no
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: big difference between the two terms
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't know what overusing it would mean.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure ya do
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: probably something like, oooh i can do more colors now, so instead of just having this item be like 3 or 4 colors i'm going to do 50 colors in its name
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: good?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: just responding to the thing said 8 minutes ago
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ^really long lag^
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't see what's ever wrong with having the option of a larger color palette
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unless you think that every painting ever is just gratuitous unless it sticks to primaries
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody's saying anything is wrong with the option of a larger palette
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's all x256 gets you
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody spoke against x256
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you were saying it shouldn't be used
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: overused, actually
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by the game, not by people
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which is the example i gave basically
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you haven't said what overused even means
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can't use more colors than there are letters in the object name
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you have an object with 50 letters, how is it "overuse" to also have as many colors?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the meaning of item is based on its extended color, then the builder failed
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think you're wrong
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if we all agreed all the time this place would be boring :)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're entitled, but that's why people get so frustrated with the game
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no it isn't
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it is
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I know a lot of the reasons why people get frustrated with the game. Nobody ever complains, except for you, about colorful objects.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: builders see toys and think that every item/room is somehow now required to use it in its entirety
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually the complaint didn't come from me
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: instead of seeing use of things like color and custom exits as gratuitous, you should instead view previous modes of conveying information as arbitrarily limited
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use is not gratuitous...overuse and misuse is...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if a builder decides they want the magical rainbow pony object to have magical rainbow colors, it's not overuse
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: define misuse
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if someone using a non-compliant client gets different information than someone using a compatible one, then the builder failed. no ifs ands or butts
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I disagree
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, but you're wrong :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the non-compliant client user should join the rest of us in the 20th century
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: talk about arbitrarily limited
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: is this a lesson in chop logic?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so now you're dictating what clients are allowed to be used...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: you're logged in from the 20th centtury??? :)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: malkar: it was a joke
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm dictating that the creativity of the game development should not be limited to not using colors because some clients can't display colors. Sorry for any blind users, but that sort of approach just holds back progress for everyone else.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said anything about limited to not using colors?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the difference?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you're arguing the case of using a client that can't display 256, why not go all the way?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i don't think he was ever arguing that case
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he just said Magna Tech: if someone using a non-compliant client gets different information
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when did I say no colors, or even no 256 colors?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gets different information is pretty specific and clear
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: color is information
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, so you're now pretending to be obtuse
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I reject your notion of "failed"
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the whole reason I work on graphical enhancements for mushclient is because it makes the game experience better for the people who can see it.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, you're entitled, but your rejection is still wrong :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better experience through more colors is wonderful, I agree
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the contrapositive is not good, however
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and I'm saying that within the realm of what builders can and are themselves willing to do, more use of colors is also better
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: client-side use of all the spectrum is a good ambition
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Too bad there is not a "gag player" plugin for mushclient that works. lol
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there is, you just have to write an "omit output" trigger
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gag player or gag character? ;-)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: #gag abealts wouldn't work :D
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The mud always sends the same number of lines for the ascii map right?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it'd be really funny if aard had that feature though
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ixle, depends on your settings
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a setting to not send blank lines for it
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Gag a Magma....
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Besides tags mapnames/roomexits, what changes it?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unrelated to this, since I don't gag or ignore anyone, I wonder if lasher could be convinced to add ignore <ip_address>
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I know some people do actually hate in a way that I can never fully comprehend
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie smiles triumphantly as he subdues you and forces a gag into your mouth.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shortmap is the one
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: shortmap is a horrible abomination of a setting
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's it thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it exists, and impacts what he's asking
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it only makes the map experience worse, regardless of whether you capture the map or not
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I agree, it's a silly setting :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i'm obviously not disagreeing that it exist
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I didn't have it on, but someone I was tyring ot help did
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it should be removed though :\
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh. iwas in the middle of writing a note. woops
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I could see it being used on smaller screen, but imo it'd be better to allow you to set the size of your map grid rather than dynamic
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: added a bit at the last minute? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: we need a +1 system for notes *nodself*
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You groan loudly.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza grins evilly.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie pumps a round into his shotgun and looks at None the Wyza. "Yes?"
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and a -1.  :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is why there is a "vote" system in place.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: does anyone actually use the vote system?  not prodding, actually curious
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vote systems are just as broken, for general opinions
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I haven't seen it used ever
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're used for in-clan stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finite membership there, so it's not gamed
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are tweaks such as only above xx level or yy hours, but alts nowadays are getting enough hours to still meet them
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the vote system is mostly broken by lack of open access to the general populace and lack of participatory interest
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: kind of the same as voting in real life
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd see the brokenness here as the opposite issue from the rl vote system, in the form of alt farming votes
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_SOPA_Blackout_Design_(derivative_A).png
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yup
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its coming
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how do i add newly trained spells to my spellup using Bash's plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are they already in your self list?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: i did the add all thingy when I originally downloaded the plugin, but I have acquired more spells since then, and the add all thing isnt working now to add the new ones
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: bsp sadd <sn>
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: tyvm
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: does anyone here have a kindle fire?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I have a gas fireplace.. no real need to kindle anything
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, one more question for now on Bast's spellup plugin, how do i add my clan skill?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsp toggleclan <clanskill>;bsp togglespellup <clanskill>
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: bsp toggleclan <clanskill>;bsp togglespellup <clanskill>;bsp sa <clanskill>
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: tyvm :)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does anyone know how to open the settings menu in connectbot on a samsung galaxy tablet?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is there a command to turn off the incoming tell text when using catchtell, for example, when someone sends me a tell it just tells me that they send me a tell, and does not actually show me what they said before i use replay?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you using mushclient's comm log?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is that the only way for it to capture tells?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you turn off echoing of tells?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: nope lol
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh you can...I thought you did it by accident, but yeah you can turn it off.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: do you know the command?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: right click on the comm log window, go to echo channels in main window submenu, and select custom echo list.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are tells selected there?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks so much
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: that was really annoying
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you change that setting?  I had a friend who had the same problem, wonder if it is the new default.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: yes, i just turned off tells from echoing in the main window
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh well - I think I keep getting confused about what setting you had, and which you want, but you are all set now anyways :)
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: it WAS echoing to the main screen, i DIDNT want it to, now because of you're help it is NOT echoing to the main screen lol
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha - well glad I could help even if I was trying to get you to do the opposite!
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Anyone got a sec to help me with a MUSH client issue?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: I'm attempting to install a few of Bast's plugins and when I do it gives me an error that claims it cannot create the state file.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: why dont they just create an entirly new chan for mush issues :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because this chan is for technical issues?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Yea, seems the most logical place to address client errors.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: who wants to talk about how botty mush is
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: You can bot any client.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i can't bot telnet :(
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: cept telnet
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: hardcore.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only reason it's so botty is because of people like Fiendish, Bast, or WinkleWinkle.  They share like Facebook users.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Well, you can
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's a simple matter of event hooks in a bash script.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no, i only blame winklewinkle
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger . o O ( Simple used very freely here )
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't think bast or fiendish make particularly botty scripts
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: So no help on the error?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: what is it mapper walkto and mapper goto ?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: so when you make a alias  cb = c 'cure blind' , if i type cb <char> , it should c 'cure blind' char
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: clientside, yes.  Gameside, no (gameside aliases ignore arguments sent).
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: how to make the alias work client side...
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: create it according to the instructions in your client's helpfile.
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: well how is it dont in mush cant figure it out
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Ever notice how if you supply a helpfile nobody ever reads it, but if you don't it's always the first thing the users are looking for?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: any way in CMud to restore a child window from minimized state?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: press the restore button?
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I meant scriptomatically. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r5/2012-01-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #WINDOW doesn't seem to care about anything more than if the window is open, so I'm drawing a blank.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: can you use an alias inside an alias in mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: yes, set the 'sent to' portion to execute
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: ty
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: anyone ever tried a dell xps?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around himself intently.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: anyone knowing how to replace all NULL cells in a table from one commands? in microsoft sql
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i dont want to use case collumn because i have a lot of collumns with null values
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Is it possible to export alias from mush to zmud?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Or conver them somehow?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who in their right mind goes from MUSH to Zmud?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Someone told me Zmud is faster.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Heh.  zmud is ancient.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush is as fast as the plugins you use
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I stuck mine on an SSD so I can run my bloat dbs :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: How to lag your own computer excessively... update a very large svn that you haven't taken care of in awhile. :P It even makes spotify stop playing. ugh.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: how do i gag battlespam to a separate window?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Is there a way to detach the little line I enter things into from being attached to the bottom of the window in mushclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't look like it
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: drats :P
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and kaof, you'd need to make a script to do that...it's not that easy to do, as there are no tags for battlespam, and the text patterns for it will yield false positives in other text
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a couple hours late
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kaof Tech: lol yeah, thanks for the reply though
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: SetVariable
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: althoughI never do that in scripts -- I just use lua variables
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: sorry, mischan
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: where can download bast plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Finger bast.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, sopa is dead
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: dead or reduced?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dead
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: so you think
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pipa is still out there tho
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: pipa it down :
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Who said it's dead?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the internet
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://www.examiner.com/computers-in-denver/house-kills-sopa
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could also jfgi
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: obama is not signing it
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: but who believes him
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah just like he ain't signing NDAA
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's more than that, but don't bother to read actual information on the case
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm goign to see what slashdot have to say about sopa
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: dagnir, I've read about it. but that's major part that lost all the credibility of it coming out as is...
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my link was tfa from slashdot :P
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yah, but i actually liek reading the comments more than the story.. the only place on the web where teh commetns are informative
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i sort of agree. altho it's not the only place like that
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and very few people there rtfa before they comment
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i have 5 digit uuid :P
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: list
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: whoops
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Is there a good method for keeping myself logged in using mushclient? :)
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Timer that sends a blank line every so many minutes is the usual method.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Mmmm. I know I used to have some trigger in zmud to do something when my eyes glazed over.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That works too, sure.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Next question... how the heck do I do that in mush? ;) I've barely figured out aliases.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: thanks :) As long as this is easier to understand than the confusing scripting site I got sent to last time, I'm happy :)
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Jaenelle:if you use a spellup script, you will stay logged on
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Bast: I don't. :) perhaps I should, but I don't.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and if I'm afk, it'll try to cast spells once when they wear off right? But then it won't try again? Or do I not understand something?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: correct, it will cast them once they wear off, but as a psi/cleric you have plenty of spells so they will wear off at random times
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jae, for a keep-connected timer, you can go to game -> configure -> timers, click add, set it to recurring 10 mins, then put Send ("") in the big box, and use the Send To drop-down to select script
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the spellup script to work, the definition of "afk" does NOT involve setting the in-aard afk flag :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Those were some great instructions, though I just trigger a social on: Your eyes glaze over.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, except that's not the right text to trigger on, and that text changes periodically...
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Well, it's what keeps me anti-idle. Hasn't failed me so far :D
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: low tech is teh best mostly
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd work if you don't anchor the trig, but not as a default trig...
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually I'm confusing 2 messages, although the eyes glaze over message did change a couple years ago, breaking the triggers of everyone who used triggers rather than timers...
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: timers are also less work for your client
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was thinking of the hungry/thirsty messages which now have prepended ##s and didn't used to
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Witch-king Sammael nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: I just like the trigger more because it doesn't send a blank line when I'm doing something :)
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I found the message and now have a working trigger anyways :) Thank you guys!
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and what do you imagine is the bad part about that?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Nothing. It's just one of those things I'm too conscious of.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Hmm, did I mange to disable the bigmap somehow? I'm using MUSHclient and the bigmap_graphical plugin only works when I'm on a continent now. Not in an area. Anyone has an idea?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i thought it only worked on contients
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Type bigmap on/off
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bigmap is Contient only anyway.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: the bigmap only works there but the bigmap_graphical plugin for MUSH works everywhere.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what do you mean, the bigmap only works there?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: On the continents
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: how do you figure?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: what?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: seems to work fine for me on non-continents...
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Not the bigmap command
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: is Light clan aware their hsoting has expired?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyone use the tt++ Aard customization?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is there a way to call script functions from MUSHclient command line without making aliases?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or set variables
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: using \\\ you can do scripting in-prompt
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: try \\\Note("WinkleWinkle rulz")
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: He does
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: anyone tried the UX31 Asus laptop?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope, but you can read here about it. http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/21/asus-zenbook-ux31-review/
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: Ah thanks Turie, I read it - but I was just wondering if someone had tried it here :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Has putting tags around gq ranges output been suggested?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Don't think so.  It's a very new feature.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That being said.  It's easy enough to make your own tags with echo, I do it all the time
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you need a tag anyways?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Agreed, it would more be a formality to keep the same design consistency.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: To capture the data easier? The same reason most tags exist?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: my point is that the output is a set number of lines with a very specific and unique pattern.  Capturing the data isn't really an issue.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I mean, can you think of other output lines that consist of whitespacenumberwhitespacenumberwhitespaceword?
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and that's assuming your client doesn't have some sort of looping pattern mechanism.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's not a problem to do it client side, I won't argue that.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: why would you?  The entire discussion is fully in the clientside arena.  Aard's not going to be making triggers for us so the client doesn't have to, after all. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Noone said anything about triggers. Obviously Aard IS going to create tags to make things a no-brainer. That is the root of the thought about adding them to keep consistency.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Doesn't bother me either way, was just curious if it'd been suggested yet.
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elchanan says 'Botting is like a drunk weasel.  It's only fun until someone gets caught'
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: but a drunk weasel is fun even after it's caught
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://i.imgur.com/pr2db.png
T3/r5/2012-01-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i got a new pwr supply yaay
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: good?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i have a strage problem. when i type command, like look or where i must hit enter twice, in order to make the command work
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: same with this tech channel
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Are you using mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: someone had this problem a couple months ago, he eventually downloaded the newest version and didn't have the problem anymore
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: It seems that others have also had the problem.... but not seeing what it is.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle nods at Mokg.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: think it has something to do with winklewinkle extender plugin area indexing feature
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: problem went away after uninstalling it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Well, there you go?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: had some problems with it yeaterday and winklewinkle tried to fix it.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: if anyone has the same problem with winklewinkle extender plugin, i recommend to remove area indexing feature from it manually. works like a charm :)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: If I want to create a project in google code where I can upload some code what license should I choose, does it matter?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it matters, but may not matter to you...the license determines what other people are allowed to do with your code
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Hmm I'll just put some random one.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whether they're allowed to make a separate product and sell it for money without giving out their own code, etc
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, had you looked into IMTS/LMTS before making your proxy? they're proxies made for the IRE MUDs which do much of the same things
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: No.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is there a plugin for note writing? Something that'd turn triggers, timers and aliases off automatically
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: The source of my proxy thing is now available in http://code.google.com/p/proxymud/  if anyone wants.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hi there tech - the MUSH forums say no, but does anyone know if miniwins can use text input that *isn't* the Command Bar? As in, place a text entry box inside a miniwn?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You thank Enazareht heartily.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (clarification - the forums are silent, rather than saying no outright)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Biker would thank Duckbat, but can never seem to find him
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: not really, which is what makes creating a notepad plugin interesting
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I would really like to do is be able to seperate a channel from the main mud - complete with input and output together somewhere else
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use a prefix alias to send it elsewhere...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can type 'gossip', too
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I think mushclient 4.70 can do that with the tags 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I want to be able to have the user type something like 'startchat gametalk', or 'startchat tell Biker', and spawn a miniwin with command entry devoted to that channel or person
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could do that
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could either use an always-on alias with a variable that startchat toggles, or have startchat create an alias to intercept everything
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have the miniwin spawning and output down, but the whole purpose is to eliminate mistells, which remains a problem unless I split off a second command entry
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have endchat disable the alias or unset the redirect_all variable
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I thought about that, which remains a plan B if no splitting is possible - problem is it limits multitasking terribly
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i just finished reading mapper help... is there a way to avoid a specific room when using mapper find?  (the security guard in front of demon school of horror)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in mapper find, but you can set the level on the room to not go through it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: find doesn't go anywhere, so it wouldn't limit results (other than limiting by area, etc)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok find, mapper goto then
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, if you set the level of the room higher than you, mapper goto won't enter it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how do I set the level on a room?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's not a level lock on a room, but an exit.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as with most things mapper, right-click
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for tons of info on the mapper (and all plugins for aardmush), finger fiendish, go to his site on the aard client, click wiki...there's a general mushclient guide, and info on each of the included plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper is "GMCP driven world mapper" in the list of featured plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: we'll sell if that stops me from getting attacked so often.  seems a lot of mapper walks go through that room.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: we'll see*
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Does anyone have a mapper.db file I could see? I want to write a script to convert it to my mapper format.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you might wanna set the portal for school of horror...that'd be a much shorter speedwalk for any that would otherwise go through that room
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think you can download the stock Aardwolf.db from Fiendish's google page
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: duckbat, just download aardmush, it comes with a db file
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ok thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I've set all portals I own.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you own the demon school handbook? it's just sitting in an unlocked locker on the second floor...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Having the Demon School Handbook actually makes it *more* likely you will run into the Security Guard - when the speedwalk is to another, nearby area
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the only areas I would see going past him are ones you get to from within SoH, as there wouldn't be a reason to make that north otherwise
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: idk, I ran into him a couple times last mort - portalled into SoH then tried to run out
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I downloaded the Mushclient from Fiendish's page, but where is the mapper.db file I don't have it.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well that's a much different scenario
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it is aardwolf.db
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: hang on
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ah okay, thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: http://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/MUSHclient/Aardwolf.db
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or more correctly <worldname>.db
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Yeah I see it now thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm, writing a note-writing plugin isn't entirely trivial. Would there be market for one if I took the trouble to do it right?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a market? definitely not...a use? sure
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: slist affected noprompt
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wonder why writing a note in 80col format would require a plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger, it's not about the 80col
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's about clicking the gun and computer icons
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although the 80col might as well be thrown in
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have no idea what you just said meant
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: though if you mention facebook, twitter feeds, or forums, in the same context as notes, i may be forced to defenestrate you
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tiger, in zmud/cmud, what does the computer icon and gun icon do?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you've used them for years, I figured you had at least basic grasp of them
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what version is that?!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i believed you were talking about mush
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I translated it for you
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry I dumbed it down beyond your grasp :P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: dumbing down is for americans
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yet you had zero clue
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's why i asked
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what would this plug-in actually do, then/
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: the gun icon is to toggle triggers on and off, can't remember off the top of my head what the computer icon does
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: parsing, norton
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. thats it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i guess if you were suggesting a window with a form layout for people to enter the note in a wysiwyg fashion, pre-validates it for length and them submits it properly without accidental parsing/triggering, then yes, people will probably see that as a positive addition
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: especially if you can copy/paste into it from the clipboard
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Fixed update checker and dark yellow color code in my proxy if anyone is interested, update can be download here: http://code.google.com/p/proxymud/downloads/list
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lemontree, what does the right-hand column say? after your name
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Haha love a nice error message to pinpoint the problem!  MISSING 1 '}' BETWEEN LINE 1 AND 173.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So in windows 7, when I plug in my flash drive, it starts automatically searching for all the pictures on the flash drive to see what I want to do with them. How can I disable that?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: disable autorun
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: get a mac?  (sorry, couldnt resist)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a mac will spew files unasked onto said flash drive...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: will it ever!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that will disable autorun for ALL disks... can't you set it to not look for pictures, just see if htere is an autorun file otherwise leave it alone?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey peeps hows it going
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Looks like there's autoplay options for different types of files in control panel.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there is one thing having to do with flash drives and macs that I'm not crazy about.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I delete a file off a flash drive, it doesnt actaully remove the fine unless I also go in and empty the trash.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can disable recycle bin on drives - idk if it will stick on a removable drive though
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm....
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i can try that though
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, people at work wanted to advertise a new service by getting flash drives that'd automatically open up the website of the service when you stuck the drive into computers...I "strongly suggested" that they just put a shortcut as the only thing on the drive instead
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is when you wipe the drives in the entire company, plant a bomb, and leave a sign saying "I just saved a million people hours of annoyance" and walk off into the sunset
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: If my browser pops up everytime I stick a flash drive in my pc, I'd 1) Hate the company and 2) Destroy the flash drive.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: when I close mush I get like 10-15 unable to save state plugin file something like that any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you running W7 or Vista?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and did you put mush into program files folder?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: win 7
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if all of those are true, then it's best to move mush out of program files folder...windows security doesn't allow programs to write stuff into the program files folder hierarchy by default
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: Apparently it does it when its trying to save world details... but what u think could cause this
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: its on my desktop
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's on your desktop, then make sure that your user has permissions to write into the state folder...mushclient\worlds\plugins\state
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: someone else having save state problems?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod lrynn, I don't remember what your final fix was (if there has been one yet)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im still having issues as well, but everything is working.Its not as bad as it was thought
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: mine only started wheni did the bast plugin for spellups also if i restart it seems to fix the problem for a bit
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://slacktory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/xkcd-face.jpg
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: cute fiend
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i got a new pwr supply yesterday for my pc..guess what it turns on now
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: always a good sign
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: dont have to mess with nuthing...it just turns on
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err. that's how it's supposed to work
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what psu, btw?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: no fire, explosions, death, or kittens?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i got a coolermaster 700w
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no dag i like messing with things to get them to turn on, my computer became like my wife i had to warm it up b4 it would let me play
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: series?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh yeah, you had to play around with the button to get it on
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: extreme power plus
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: EXTREEEEEME
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hear the "plus" means better.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: didnt have much to choose from my local pc shop has one brand lol
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh. it boasts that it has 70%+ efficiency :P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: LIVE AT THE ASTRODOOOOME, COME SEE CRUSHER, AND KILLER, AND AAAAALLLL YOUR OTHER FAVORITE MOOONSTER TRUCKS AT THE _MONSTER_ _TRUCK_ _RALLY_ _SMASH_
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess the company is called "cooler master" for a reason
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: KIDS ONLY FIVE BUCKS
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my last one was a toughpower it was a good one lasted about 7 years
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: such a silly name
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plus extreme toughpower!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i liked the cable management, only plug in what you use
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: not as much clutter in the case
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: modular, then?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wanted to get that as well, but the non-modular was ca 20 euros cheaper
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You guys will like this - we has a tech come and install a receipt printer on one of our phot kiosks - I could do it myself, but warranty says they have to. So he plugs it in WHILE THE POWER IS ON
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: photo*
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I just get it right the first time and then cut off the cables I don't need to use 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is that a problem, vakieh?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i like modular but was in a pinch so to speak
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Blue flash like nothing else, circuit stays on (worryingly) and they guy leaps back, swearing in Japanese...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Did I mention this was into a live PSU?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey fiendish i saw a pic of you on some site btw
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: are you sure it was me?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe it was another fiendish
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Haha no - I thought it was just a computer.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish rolls a drum beat and crashes a cymbal at Mendaloth's comment.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: it was on the aard pic site
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then it was me
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: from a few years ago
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: you look like my nephew lol
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: 2007 I think
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: AM I YOUR NEPHEW!?!?!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah that was the date on the pic
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is a hot girl on the Aardwolf pic site - I see someone has been c&p-ing from google img search
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lrynn: maybe we are related
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: no, dont think so
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: your in australia, right?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I am not.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: The photo was taken in Hawaii
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: where are you from
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm from Houston, TX originally
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the pic does have an outback look to it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: doubt we are related but i did alot of growing up in Arizona, 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I was hitchhiking
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i get some ppl confused on here sometimes
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have cousins in Arizona
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: right now i live in illinois
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you hitchhiked to hawaii?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: STOWAWAY
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hitchhiked around hawaii. Getting there was only slightly more organized.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: must be nice
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it was fantastic
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suggest people go in pairs, one guy one girl
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: been stuck in southern illinois since i was 18
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it fixes the psychology in your favor for getting picked up
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah that picture is in the back of a pickup truck
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is a bit more recent http://wiki.mako.cc/upload/thumb/7/7a/FiendishProfile.jpg/200px-FiendishProfile.jpg
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: you odnt look like my nephew in that one
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I assume your nephew isn't in black and white
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: true
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: nice to put a face to a name.... i'd send mine but wouldnt' be able to resist linking to goatse
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Please, tubgirl is the in thing now
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only if you're 12
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: waht a coincidence! that is an actual photo of me!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err. tubgirl was the thing a decade ago
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think everyone should have recentish photos on the picture archive
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you should move on to more modern stuff. like giantcheesetaco
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think my pic on the aard gallery is 3+ years old
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's not so recent.. iv'e cleared up now thanks to antibiotics
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://jezebel.com/5876751/referring-to-women-as-bitches-is-offensive-now-jay+z-has-a-kid
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll never have a pic on the archive...ya wanna see what I look like, google image search for "Jesus" :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=665331173
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Abelinc: I already have lots of friends who look like jesus
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: unfortunately that search would just produce an identity collision
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "This content is currently unavailable"
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: from facebook
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: like jesus from big lebowski?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's "The Jesus"
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i was just there wonder why its unavailable
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't have a facebook account
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It may be temporarily unavailable...or you may not have permission to view this page. 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'll assume the latter
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well shoot hold on
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, gotta be logged in to see it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a fb account, but only have about 4 people friended who aren't blood or marriage relatives
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or both
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: oh well i find a place to upload 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i only have a few friends too dont feel bad
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pictures.aardwolf.com
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ill send one that might take a minute to get put up, have to email it in
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: everyone has to email it in
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and it'll take more than a minute
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah...minute was just a figure of speech in that one
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: anyone else experiencing a slow connection tonight?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wow, it's daytime here. That's a really slow connection...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: lol :)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: No though, mediocre as usual
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my connection is great atm
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: awesome 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i am thinking of trashing cable tv and just upping my service to 50mg
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my last mud did that permdeath stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Your apartments don't come with 100Mbit connections? *confused* :P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: my apartments......
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: huh
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Jaenelle will always be a student
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even when she isn't
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm supposed to have 10Mbps and i'm running about 100kbps. And i pay for UVERSE!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Fiendish: hehe :P This is a ummm... I guses the closest word in English is a condo? I buy it, but it is an apartment and I have to pay 'monthly fees' instad of rent :P But yeah, 100Mbit is included. and 4 tv channels :P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: condos tend to have monthly fees
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I never understood that
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah especially association fee's
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: you're paying for the condo services
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "services"
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i consider it a very expensive gym membership
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my gym membership is very expensive :|
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: lawn mowing, maintenance, cleaning etc.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I understand the fees. they fix all windows, painting, we got a new balcony recently, they remove snow, they replaced the garage doors with automatic ones, garbage service, etc.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It's just another way for them to make money.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I guess this isn't very techy. :P Oh well.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Meh, who cares at this point lol
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jaenelle wanders over to gossip. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: until just a couple years ago i was a maintenance supervisor at a college apartment 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: had over 250 units i was in charge of
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar directs everyone to follow Jaenelle.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: my barracks has about 280 or so rooms, with about 500 guys living here :P poor bmas XD
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: hmm why is it I can connect to aard fine and certain applications that require the internet work fine, but I can't browse the internet or play other online games
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried more than one browser?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: yeap firefox and chrome
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried connecting to a website via ip rather than name?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: go back to IE try it.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: how do i connect to ip? and will do vadar
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teroch Tech: if you know th ip of the sit type it in
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: try goign to http://66.228.127.34/
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: can't through IE either
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: nope ip doesn't work either
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Check your internet setup...possible a virus went and set up a proxy or something silly like that...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats wierdbid
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: it is indeed weird..since it was working fine just 15 minutes ago
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tried rebooting your router and pc?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: yeap a few times lol
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can you access your router control panel through the browser?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: yeap
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: i'm using a wired connection too..
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: might just be my ISP since my iphone can't access it either
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's likely
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shazar Tech: guess i'll just have to wait then..
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae peers around himself intently.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: any ideas about note 5711 on tech board?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: board
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: ohhh and im paying 5tps for a head-scratching-hmmmmm attempt at this and 18tps for fixing
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i was having this issue for a while
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: do your aliases have the "continue processing checked?  if so.. clear that text box
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: sec brb
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make that "keep evaluating"
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and ^check box.. not text box
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: where is the 'continue processing'? cant find it...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is keep evaluating
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: wasn't checked :/
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: good riddance jerry yang, you were the worst
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Been having this problem in MUSH forever: Bunch of Bast's plugins give errors like 'Unable to save state file C:\...\stats\<bunchofhex>.xml'. Winkle's are all fine, and a few of Bast's work without the error message, but I end up having to disable most of them. Any insight would be appreciated!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have a plugin for calculating when hour of double will be?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: for mush
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: tell hadar alice, hour
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have a question about running MUSHclient on a USB drive!!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Shoot!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: How do i make my windows fit if i'm running it on a computer with a lower screen resolution than the one at home?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: manually probably, but i've been known to be wrong
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there an easy command for this? or do i have to manually go and re-size them all?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats horrible!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modi Tech: or change the resolution maybe 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: isnt there a way to reset to default? maybe thatll help?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'd wager that the "default" is just the settings the client was distributed with, not a "real" default
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: this is horrible!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: IE fiendish probably set his res to 1280x1024 and set them all, then saved the distro
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I have a HUGE resolution at home, and i have a tiny resolution here at my aunts house.. I can't even begin to fit the things i did at home
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what about Firefox Fiendish? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how about changing the font smaller?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how do i get rid of (temporarily) the plugins that i dont absolutely need?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: disable them
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like the graphic mapper, and the group info
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: file->plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and my status page.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: anyone use mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mapper hide will hide it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I use mush
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but leave the mapping part working
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats what i'm asking about lol
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: nope bloodbath, no one uses it. fiendish developed it for the site just for himself :P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: Well to better ask my question you know how on zmud itmakes a line when u scroll on the main page is there a way to do that with mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: i know my frist question was stupid lol
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: No idea what your talking about since i've never used Zmud. Sorry bud :(
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: lol i know someone knows what im talking about :D
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he's referring to the splitscreen scrollback buffer.  It has a dragbar for adjusting how much of the window it takes up.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: ahhh yes that is there a way to do that with mush Dokkar?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: no clue.  I'm sticking with ZMud/CMud.  Mush gets poor marks in key areas, in my opinion.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i used zmud for years liked 
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Splitscreen Scrollback Buffer eh?? That sounds amazing, yet i still have no idea what it is.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: that was a long time ago though
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: splitscreen just means you can look at what the game already sent you without having it jump around as the "live" game appears.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ooh so basically you have the top showing what was the past, and the bottom showing whats current?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: Yuppers
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and it only splits when you scroll up?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: So im guessing there is no plugin for that yet hey?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: haha i should try to make one. Ill have to u guys in about 50 years :(
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: well, there are other shortcuts like CTRL-Z, but yeah.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, not that i know of. but i dont think that would be too hard to do. just copy the big screen...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: put it on top
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: hmmm when making a simple trigger where do i want it to go? The option to send it to the world..Command..Output etc...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: world
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: command puts it in the typing area
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: output is a simple echo to you i believe
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: hmmm when it did that all i send was a echo of it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: execute sends it to the client as if you had typed it, so its interpreted first (to trigger an alias for example)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone know if there is an easy way to remove duplicate files in itunes?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Go through them one-by-one?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: i'd prefer something more bulk :)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Delete them all and start again?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tianshi Tech: there's a button to display duplicates
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: yeah, but i have 50+ to delete and can't find a way to delete the duplicates, just sort them
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: one at a time.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yeah buddy, just have some patience and run through it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: think of it as cleaning your car. It's just something you can't easily automate.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: click, hit delete, or chose delete on the right click menu
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: maybe CTRL + Click the duplicates to delete
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2905
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or, be an animal like turie and find the help file online.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Putty, use that website. It shows you how.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is called stu pyd google-fu
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tianshi Tech: ctrl-click works nice
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ctrl click lets you skip some, shift click grabs a range.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: File>Display Duplicates
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: just got a message from MUSH i think... "Milestone 7581 already exists!"   any idea?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: you're a haxor!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: omg that means you about to die!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: permadeath
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: quick! the only way to fix it is to give me all your stuffz
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: heh, funny.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teroch Tech: ...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cera: Are you using Bast's plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lols, nah seriously i have no idea what it is sorry.. :S
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, not going to worry about it.  :)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes Turie
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Can you copy the exact thing echoed on your screen including color?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: highlight, ctrl +d
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Spanks Wyza.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hi there tech - I'm trying to nail down how the Mushclient Lua scripting handles wildcards in aliases - I have a match "^testme *"
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But the only wildcard I get is [0], which is 'testme' - it leaves the * part out entirely
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is this intended behaviour, or am I doing something wrong?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Lua uses a 1 based index.. start at 1
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. I started with [1], but that is left nil - [0] is 'testme'
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 0 is the whole captured line.. you issue is you're mixing regex with non-regex.. change the * to .+
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and end it with a $
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Says wildcards[1] is nil when I do that
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you doing this in a plugin or a straight alias
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But [0] now includes the second part
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In a plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Think with regex, you might have to put parentheses around wildcards that you want captured, but not sure.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I either don't use regex, or I name my wildcards, myself.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: parens get captured in regex
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: parentheses did the trick - thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite bows deeply.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That was what I was after, really - all of my regex experience has been straight matching, then parsing the characters in C manually
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite sticks his tongue out and says "Bleh!"
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So (...) matches a numbered wildcard, and I think I remember seeing <name> to name them
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I always have to look up the syntax, but yeah, can name them and use wildcards["namehere"] to reference them, if you want
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe i forgot the parens.. silly billy me
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So something like (<word>.+) would leave me with wildcards["word"], or wildcards.word, right?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: (?<word>.+)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i never got that to work outside of plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yeah, had trouble capturing the first word...
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so that captures however many words I enter - now to look into tokenizing by space chars :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can use character classes instead of periods to match only certain types of characters
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Will that break the match at the first space char? (Again I have only ever worked with y/n regex)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's hard to come up with something that regex CAN'T match on.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I mean is, will that break the match and not call the script, or will it match partially, and discard the data after the space chart
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So yeah, you should be able to match and capture pretty much anything you'd like.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: char*
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not sure exactly what you're asking. If you use, for example: ^\w+\s+\w+$
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then it'll match any two words separated by a space.  It won't match only one word, and it won't match 3 words.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (any number of spaces, that is)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Say I enter 'testme hello world' - I want to match on 'testme *', but only keep the first word after 'testme' - so ignore 'world' completely
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^testme \b(.+)\b.+$
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: might work
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what's \b?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would use .+?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if you can use regex for the asterisk, it would be (\w+).  I assume \b means word boundary, but that would be unnecessary
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: $testme (\w+)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: would work, assuming you don't mind it not being anchored at the end.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: er, ^
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not $
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: note that \w will only match letters, so if you plan on using numbers and symbolics you'll need a range.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, for those who might still care - "^testme (?<word>\w+).*?$" did the trick
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: .*?$ is kinda redundant...you could remove it and it would do the same thing
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: don't think you need the last ? in there
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: He needs the .* if he's anchoring it with $
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, you said that
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Without the last ? it requires a second word - I could leave off the .*?$, but I was hoping to keep it anchored
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nah, * means 0 or more.  If it was +, then it means 1 or more
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anchoring it makes no difference if right before the anchor you have a match anything
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: agree
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the ? just means match as small as you can to fit the match
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: i.e. not greedy
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ending in .*?$ is *NOT* anchored
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're "anchoring" it by forcing it to end in absolutely anything it wants
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I get it will match on anything - I was just fiddling to see what I could do with the end of it - the match itself is 100% useless :-P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should never start with ^.* or end with .*$
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then you can just do testme (?<word>\w+)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: er, it ate something of mine
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then you can just do:  ^testme (?<word>\w+)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, if you don't care a whit about the contents of the .*, then leave it off
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (note I haven't -h'd the whole thread)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bit of a holdover from when I would be dealing with the potential for rogue line breaks - I assume this isn't an issue with mush aliases?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush won't match multiline unless you check the box and tell it how many lines to look at
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in triggers, that is...alias can't ever be multiline
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Excellent - my experience with regex was being taught always to force it to single line unless you wanted multi - hence the .*?$
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, do you all think SOPA is going to pass?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: looking forward to the wiki blackout
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sopa got shelved - Pipa is the bigger threat now
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think wikipedia was in cahoots with Jeopardy to have it down while the online test was going on.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What is the Wikipedia outage supposed to prove?  "This is what SOPA/PIPA are going to do to Wikipedia?"
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If so, I hope it works, because that outage is going to be a pain in the ass.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't understand why it is a worldwide blackout - why does Australia need to give a shit that you guys do with your intertubes
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delpol Tech: i hope google blacks out too
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: becasue Oz does wahtever the US does
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Because the intertubes are all connected, Vakieh?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: ever buy stuff online from US businesses?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: its only hte english parts of wikipedia so learrn to speak german
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if the US screws the net, it'll mess things up globally
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Oz has secret trade agreements with teh US to support all their copyright laws
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, but if Sopa and/or Pipa passes, the US can kiss its DNS leadership goodbye
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and enforce them
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or convince wikipedia to have an australian-language wikipedia
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: like a senator cares about that?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yup, and we all start using foreign DNS servers
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: congressmen only care about whose got the fattest briefcase.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ^
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and by briefcase you mean..
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: >:D
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: hence why our country is swirling the drain
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: intern
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the lobbists (in this case RIAA and other people who are affected by piracy) are the ones who care about the contents of particular legislation.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: one problem
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it won't even slow piracy down
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it'll just make the pirates work *a little* harder
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: it'll do absolutely nothing to piracy
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: nope!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I hope I can still use keepvid to download music from Youtube
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What are you guys talking about? so i can google it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: youtube can easily be shut down via sopa and pipa
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not via pipa
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9oeJgrVrq0
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: perfect 5 minute explination
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe PIPA won't pass.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i hope so
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i don't want to kill tech innovation in america, that pretty much seals the fate of our country
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: supposedly pipa only affects sites with "no significant use other than" copyright infringement.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: i thought they both gave teh government to steal the domanin name and hosting due to multiple infractions
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I heard one or the other was only for foreign hosted sites?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: doesn't matter
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: soon as you give the government a ban hammer
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if it was locally hosted they would have jurisdiction to just sue the site owner
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: sopa is supposedly forign only but it has parts in it that will effect everything in america
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: the definition of "foreign" site was extremely loose in SOPA, and was based entirely on the domain name to determine whether a site was foreign or not
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it'll start using it and no one can stop them
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if our govt had a history of using the power we gave them well, i'd trust them, they definitely just have a history of abusing power to line their wallets
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: if you pass sopa, you'll become China on the internet :0
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The differences between China and the US have been rapidly shrinking for decades
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess I'd better get to downloading all those songs off Youtube I've been putting off
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Problem is China seems to be better at it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So i have a question, does it look like its actually going to pass?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Cause that will suck!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: its not unlikely that it will pass
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}No pants Travis Tech: not if google has its way
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: That's a HORRIBLE law though. It's basically crippling the internet for everyone who doesnt use it for piracy.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/01/15/2138231/white-house-opposes-key-sopa-provisions
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Google should punish the federal government by blocking all their sites if this thing passes.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hell yeah
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: nice link Wyza
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: cool on the white house they actually have a petition form you can sign to be against it
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and they promise to have an intern look at it!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: before or after she is done putting the cigars away?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: your joke dates you old man! :P
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: anyone have a quick way to edit what channels post to the communication log in the new mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: right click on the window, click on customize channels
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: thanks a bunch!
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Wouldn't you know it.  The Wikipedia blackout just HAD to be on my off day and NOT on the day I work on a rig with no internet.  Screw you, Wikipedia.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: any1 knows any plug ins for musch that predict hour double?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gunsnroses Tech: mush*.. ?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: Hi, I currently have an alias set for - htd, but when I type it it also triggers hunt trick (d) is there anyway to make it only register ht(space)(mob) vs ht(without space)
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: is the hunt trick an alias, too, or is it in a plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: It's a plugin.
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: maybe try lowering the sequence number of yur alias?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't think you can disable whether other plugins match on something
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: How do I change the sequence number?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: AFAIK, sequence numbers only guarantee order within a single plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 100 in one plugin might fire before 10 in another
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: anyone know how likely it is ill have to reinstall win 7 upgrading an AMD cpu/motherboard to intel?
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mobo change will be a re-validate at the very least
T3/r5/2012-01-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}High-class Hotcakes Tech: --h
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ha, so much for the Wikipedia blackout
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you're using firefox, just spam the stop button upon loading any wikipedia page.  You can read it just fine.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: heh, is reddit going to do it too?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Wikipedia blackout FAIL.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: you can still view the pages yes, but it's done on purpose
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: check the last few paragraphs of their blackout article for the explaination
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Then what's the point of a blackout, if it can be circumvented (with one keystroke, even)?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: nuh uh, u looking at wikipedia/en ?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Yes. Hit Esc before the page finishes loading, and it won't start the redirect process.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: just a plea to inform others of whats going on
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so everyone who visits their page will know about the issue without being overly inconvenienced
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: I think most people who use the internet knows what's going on, but if they're not affected/inconvenienced by it, they're not going to care. 
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: ... which is why I think it fails in that regard.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i doubt that most know what's going on
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Lots of people don't realize what's going on, or how important the issue is.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Merlis is agreeing with that Horizontal HyPo person again...
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The full text of the page is also viewable in the page source.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: even after redirection
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merlis Tech: i would say that the vast majority of people don't care, but for most of them it's mainly due to not understanding the repercussions.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: So for the same of PR and 'not inconveniencing people in an emergency', the community decided to not fully blackout? 
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: I would've thought the best way to strike home would be to actually show people the reercussions. Full blackout.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: ... and I don't get that reasoning, what sort of "emergency" would require the use or Wikipedia?!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: paper due next day
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merlis Tech: well, so people can learn about SOA and PIPA, they didn't black out the page on them :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more   
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Oh crap, I forgot to research my paper (shouldn't use wikipedia anyway!)... well then, now you know how hard it will actually be if you can't EVER research your paper, not ust for a day.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Merlis Tech: I do agree with Salvanas on that one point... a full blackout would be more effective than one with workarounds (including getting google to blackout the site's cache)... (except for the SOPA/PIPA info page)
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: ... for that matter, why just the English versions? Surely SOPA / PIPA aren't just concerned with piracy on English speaking websites...
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no reason to inconvenience people who don't have a say in US politics...english version of the site was the poor-man's way to get close to that demographic
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Fair enough.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: hah google kicks in
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think the point was to "show people the reprocussions".  I think the point was simply to raise awareness.  And I think they'll succeed in that.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YnysMon Tech: i am gagging tech in solidarity
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: anyone know the old ibm thinkpad?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: somewhat
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: hallo anyone out there?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Disdain Tech: Negative, sir.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: I know a little about the thinkpad
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: i got one as a gif and putit on it started the windows 96 setup now its asking for a authentication code any ideas on what code?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: gift*
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: you mean windows 98?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: it has one box to typr code then oem then 2 more boxes
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: no i actualy meen 95
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: oh...the old OEM code...I think you can bypass it by type 9s or 1s all the way through
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: it is old i admit it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: i just trid 9s9s9s9s9s9s9s9s ans 1s1s1s1s1s1s1 doesent work any ather ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: tried*
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ...
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Not multiple '9s's, multiple '9's
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: rofl
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: like 9s9s9s oem 9s9s9s9s 9s9s9s9s?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: lol ok my bad
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh gods.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure if troll..
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: ok tried all 9 and all 1 but stil nothing any more ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Heros Tech: just do a google search for the oem key...or is there a sticker on the machine that has the OEM key?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Blastois Tech: no sticker
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: I tried enabling CP window in MushClient and it errored out, I disabled... and now I can't cp check
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Does someone know how to fix that?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: Who's plugins are you using?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Disable the plugin, restart MUSHclient
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Did both of those
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: -- should work with _any_ plugin.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Bast's
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Nevermind, it was the broadcasting plugins that went along with it
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninnuam Tech: Thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: is there any way to have mapper re-equip my offhand after it uses a portal?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: put it in the portal alias
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: How do I use a variable in a command?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: if I have a variable ffhand set to dirk, and I type dual ffhand, should it not work?  What am I missing?!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: not something like dual $ffhand?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: ?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: depending on the client, you need to tell it you're referencing a variable with a special character like $$ or @
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: yeah, I'm using @offhand, but still nothing
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: if you are on MUSH, make sure you have expand variables checkbox marked in the alias.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: Is it not possible to have it work in typed commands or mapper aliases?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: hmm.. I'm not sure.. I use an alias for my mapper portals.. one that just rewields a secondary weapon stored as a variable
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Sometimes my connection hangs and my MUD client doesn't notice that I'm not connected, is there some safe telnet opcode I could send to MUD every 10 minutes so my MUD client knows if the connection hanged (when trying to send it)?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: any good way to play this on an ipad???
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyone playing aard on an ipad??
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i need to figure out a way like BT on ipad!!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I need to format my computer soon.  I use MUSHclient.  I don't want to lose the map data/notes, any clue which files I should store on a backup?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: why not just backup the mush folder?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: its not that big
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: aardwolf.db
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can also use the mapper backup function
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Okay cool, all useful answers thank you!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: aardwolf.db won't backup all the plugins you might have downloaded too.  
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you'd still need to go redownload those too
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Or should I just save my plugin folder as well?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza shrugs helplessly.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: And where is that backup feature for the mapper found?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mapper help
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Okay, thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: still easier just to copy the mush folder and be done with it
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I think your right, I will just copy the folder.  
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: morning ppl
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is there a way to monitor a certain thing in my inventory in my prompt or an addon that does it 
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: like how many of a potion i have left
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how do you get bast plugin to cast if it doesnt recognize that your spells have wore off?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: bsp fast will cast everything, if that's what you mean
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: for some reason it thinks i have all my spells cast already, is there a way to get it to update my Good list?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Not sure, you could use 'bsp sremove all' then 'bsp sadd all' to clear the list then readd everything, I don't know if that will fix it. Just to check, you're sure you've got enough mana, and you've not paused the spellups?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: yep, gotta go though, ill figure it out later, thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Anyone have a good way to play Aard on an iPad?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: ssh
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: remote descktop to your mush machine!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Ssh.. should i google what that is?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i do that.. amazing..
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how do i setup the SSH? (just googled it)
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misfit Hotcakes Tech: Much simpler solution. There's an app that you can use to mud on ios devices. 
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @hotcakes: I've used it, Sucks and i hate it lol.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Yes? And that app is?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Only one free app for Mudding which is horrible.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: the rest cost 2 and 3 dollars, and are almost as equally horrible.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misfit Hotcakes Tech: You never specified free.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: onlive have a windows7 app.. that you can remote to.. run your client from that
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misfit Hotcakes Tech: Mud Client is decent.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: which is free
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: naw i bought it.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: avoid all the mudding apps
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: In case anyone doesn't know, the Firefox addon NoScript will prevent Wikipedia pages from blacking out.  Have a nice day.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Using google cache also works.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: scab!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe strike breaker!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i bet it was you who killed Jimmy Hoffa
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: google cache? is that like disney bucks?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's like it, but less paedo
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth is not answering any tech related questions in honor of SOPA?!?!?!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: me too
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Unless one comes across the screen and I know the answer and answer without thinking those dont' count.  Or if you offer me a TP to answe.r
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i'm going to be opening and closing mush a lot - is there a way to make it so it does not automatically connect upon opening the client? think i'd be kicked from connecting upon the 20th restart...
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> connecting
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: it already says no autoconnect :(
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, yeah, file -> global prefs
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: general tab, top 2 checkboxes
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: cool, thansk!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: boo :( still connected me
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: any other suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: put in the wrong password
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: on teh connecting tab.. change the drop down to "no auto-connect"
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i don't have it automatic like that :/ what im looking for is something to prevent any connection upon opening mush
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: did that :(
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh i see
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: i guess i'll pass to the weird-nonstop-20sec-connections hurdle when it comes
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh i see
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phalae, when you open mushclient, do you get a "Getting Started" window in the middle?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone with an ipad and an ssh app got a minute?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: use rdp or onlives windows service if you're using mush
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Huh? Was that directed at me?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ixle, sure
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite app for remote connections on the iPad is iSSH
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: I've got a 4s with iSSH on it right here, if that counts
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iSSH rules, can do telnet, ssh, raw tcp, VNC, RDP, Xwindows, all in 1 app :-)
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that sounds good
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i agree - iSSH makes the ipad worth while
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and having the overlay keyboard is very nice too
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viscount Droki Tech: the ipad makes itself worthwhile :p
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It's a shame there's no good free ssh app (from what I read).
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: no but issh is worth every bit of 9.99
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: touchterm is fine for a free one, issh is just better
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use Mocha rdp.. but it's got issues at times
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: anyone know how to fix this plugin error? http://pastebin.com/QWGZhnaa
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Granola: Are you using the updated released verison of Bast's plugins or the beta stuff?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: Bast's plugins, but this particular plugin is someone elses
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Spartacus' plugin or someone modified Bast's?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: Spartacus'
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did this happen just after installing the new Aardwolf MUSHclient ?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Spartacus is not around. You might get lucky and ask someone like Fiendish or Bast to help, but I do not know.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: Abelinc says the new mush has different rules for endings or something
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: gsub doesn't use PURE regular expression.. i think the ecape char is % instead of \ in gsub
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: i could just email spartacus if i were to do that..i was hoping to get this fixed now thouh
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: the pattern appears to be wrong.. i think the gsub library msut've been updated
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: form what version did you upgrade from?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: im not sure....i havent updated in about a year
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well it will cause errors down teh road.. but you could try commetning out the line with -- for now.. see if that helps
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: should i use the replace too for \ to replace it with %? this plugin worked fine a few months ago
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'd talk to sparticus first if you can
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: alright. ill just do that. thanks :)
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: What does it do?  Maybe there is another plugin that does the same thing that someone here could recommend.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: im pretty sure there isnt. Bast has something similar, and so does winkle...its a clickable miniwindow for all events. even gqs. takes me right to the mob, then i hold control and click and it kills.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: its a pretty sweet plugin.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: if someone can fix it, ill give it to you
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: then have it in your inv and give 3rd area mallic 100k gold
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sounds a lot liek what i have for CPs
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: it is :) which i love, btw
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle bows deeply.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I was actually thinking of modifying Bast's plugin to do something like that. :)  Might have to check out WinkleWinkle's
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: like i said...i can send it to you.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll ahve a look at it Granola
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: can you send me a tell with your email? youre invis. and i have to go in 30 secondss
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: I would try as well-- but I'm a dabbler more than an actual programmer. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: sent 
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i THINKi've fixed that line
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: try key = string.gsub(key, "[%*%%%!%?%(%)%&%.%,%;%:%'\"%^%#%*", "")
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: % is the new escape BUT you have to escape teh " differently as the string is enclosed by "
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: make sense?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in CMud, has anyone been able to get an sql db connection object to work from another window?  I can't seem to access the connection across window contexts, and creating a new connection is generating an invalid SQLite database error.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, for some reason my Bast spellup plugin thinks I have all my spells cast on me but they are all listed as getting ready to wear off soon, so, it is not recasting them, anyway to get it to cast all the spells?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are they actually worn off, or just nearly worn off?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: all of them have wore off
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: bsp help
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: bsp fast
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: bsp fast wont cast them because it thinks they are all still active
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: that resets mine when it glitches
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hmm, try relogging i have done that before too
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: duh, sec, lol
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So bsp thinks they are still on? Ok, haven't seen that before - perhaps try reinstalling xBroadcast_SpellsSkills, there may be a broadcaster issue
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: sigh, fricken noob, first rule of computers, if its broke, restart
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks, good to go
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: awesome 
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: believe me i have had my fair share of problems too
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So I installed Mythbuntu 11.10 - having all sorts of problems getting it to even start.  Anyone know if it's possible to install 11.04 on top of it or something without uninstall databases and files?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: are aliases saved to the client? what iI want to confirm is that the aliases iI set on my android wont transfer to mush client on my pc
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it depends
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: there are client side aliases
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: if you typed "alias something something", that's a mud-side client
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and mud side aliases
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: err, mud side alias
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arelix, in-aard aliases save with your character, no matter the client
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: ty
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: its pertty difficult to play on the phone w/o aliases
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yup, use BlowTorch if your on android.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: you can use Alias's and Triggers.
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: hm, iI just downloaded aardwolf rpg from the android market, blowtorch is a better option?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf rpg is blowtorch
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Just click settings from the main screen
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: ok :) its pretty cool that this is an option
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: from there you can Setup your Alias's and Trigger's just like a good client
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: even timers and whatnot
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i use a 30 second timer, thanks to abe, to keep me in game. Also, a trigger set on the quest message to remind me when its quest time
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then its set to trigger a notification that says "QUEST TIME" so its like i got a text, except from aardwolf lol
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: err not 30 second, actually 7 minutes lol
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: you may need aard rehab bro, the first step is admittomg yoy have aproblem
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: can someone give me the IP address for www.amazon.com?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: 72.21.214.128
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I was away from the internet for most of the day, did Google blackout or anything for the SOPA protests?
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arelix Tech: demonoid did
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: Google didn't blackout... they had the  logo blacked out
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I thought that's what they would do
T3/r5/2012-01-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: wired.com had everything blacked out, unless you hovered over it
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any apache wiz's able to debug a vhost site file for me?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: (it's short)
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: Post a link to a gist and you are likely to get a better response.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: http://pastebin.com/UBf8Qcgs
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: Your DirectoryIndex directive doesn't have an argument. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah yeah I removed index.html
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I just want it to show the contents
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: So remove the whole directive.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: Your error log should have more information.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: After removing the directive though it looks ok? The directory should be displayed?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: anyone know why i'd get an error from this line? 632*:   if #areas < 1 then
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what is areas?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: what do you mean?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: should i put the whole error in pastebin?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it would give an error if it's nil or something
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, what's the error?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: http://pastebin.com/5qTLp51S
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: as i said, areas is nil
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't use the # operator on nil
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: should i just remove the line?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, that would probably cause other problems :P
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd report the error to whoever wrote the plugin :P
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: damn. ok, thanks :)
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i'm thinking putting "if !areas then" might work.. if areas is nil, then it'll execute, if not then it won't
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: ill try that. thanks :) ill let you know if it worked when i get a chance to try! lol
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: oh that didnt work
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: gave me an error right away
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: oh well.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: thanks anyway :)
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't understand - is The Daily Wtf promoting SOPA, or ironically opposing it o.0 ?????
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: eac has hit version 1.0. unbelievable
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how do i zoom out of the graphic mapper from MUSH?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Click on the miniwindow and use your mouse scroll wheel
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: on a laptop without a mouse :S
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mapper help will tell you
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try "mapper zoom in" 
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: or rather zoom out
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: love you winklewinkle and Trachx
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: please check "mapper help" before asking
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i didint know the MUSHclient mapper plugin and aardwolf mapper were linked.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what what?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what's the aardwolf mapper?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, check one another useful mapper feature: mapper portal
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: I think there is a chan to address the Gossip issue.... might be atleast..
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: looking for recommendations for a PCI video card, budget is about 150-200
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: pci or pci-e?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: pci
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: wow, do they even make those anymore?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: updating an older system
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you might find something in the 50$ range
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: might be easier to update mobo with onboard graphics and memory than get a vid card.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i doubt you'll find anything at 150$ for pci
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I'd say don't upgrade a system without PCI-e :)
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah why are you putting 200$ into a system that doesn't even ahve pci-e?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ^^ i agree with Wyza, thats dumb.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: that's my budget, didn't say I was spending that much
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but its pointless
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: your wasting money spending anything more than 50
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: id say even 50 was a waste
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's pci-e?  Is that post-agp?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: no, you're wasting your money, period
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yes dokkar
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that's what came out about 5 years ago
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or 6 i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the fact that the board doesn't even have agp indicates it was made something like a decade ago
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is that the latest, or is there something even better than that?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Oof. Even AGP cards is still so dang expensive, it's a major rip-off.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i think its up to pci-e 3.0 now
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: ok, then how about pci-e then, recommendations for same budget?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: GTX 480s are going cheap.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: buy a mobo that just has on board video
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: if you are just looking for simple most on board cards now days are pretty decent
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you can get an asus for like 150$ that has a 4800 series ati chip in it
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: clearly you don't care about performance so an onboard is more than enough
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Well I heard the new wave of muds will have super 3D text!
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: well performance is the issue lol this clunker has a radeon X1300 in it
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the better question is, what do you want it to be able to play?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: The model I mentioned was completely wrong. I was thinking of GT 240's. Around 40 bucks or so.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: EVE would be a good load test
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: it'll play it, but it's a bit choppy in busy systems, looking to clean it up some for 2 boxing
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: well, the classic argument is nvidia or ati, i'm an ati man myself, given that most of the 6000 series cards are well priced
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: you can get a 6850 for between 130 and 150
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but if you are upgrading from a system that is still pci, that means you are going to get a *much* better cpu, even if you buy bottom of the barrel
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: which is going to be a big increase by itself
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: two different boxes, I had hopes for the older one, but looks like it's getting recycled
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: at the point you are going from a netbook might have more cpu power.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ^
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: the second box is 3.2 ghz processor, with 2g ram, and a pci-e slot
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: the first one, was just a shot in the dark with pci
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: double the ram and buy either a 6800 series ATI or one of the similarly priced Nvidias and you'll be wayyy better off
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: memory is dirt cheap
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Actually I think dirt cost more at this point then memory
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vasrysn snickers softly.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: probably depends on where you are buying the dirt at
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: memory isn't an issue, I got several sticks laying around
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not all dirt is the same, and there are even premium grades of dirt.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: but thanks, time to go shopping
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: then why isn't it in your pc?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: like I said, the boxes I'm talking about have been sitting in a closet, I'm looking to multibox some games, EVE was an example
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: as long as you don't multibox here :)
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: IP would give me away I should think heh
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: anyone have any suggestions in order to trace remote access to computers?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not sure what you are asking - but made me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: my friends work comp, acts like it doesnt know her...won't let her log in....and her workmates comp, opened for her, but is full of files that aren't hers, like it's someone elses comp
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: how do you watch a movie from the net, through the tv, and also use the computer for other pages?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: in a SQL statement/lua/mushclient if a text field is within quotes do you have to do any special escaping for commas?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm commas weren't the issue, the issue was my update statement didn't have a table name.
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that'll do it
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeight Tech: whats the blackberry app again?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: "Angry Birds"
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: midpssh
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeight Tech: no. . For blackberry. . .
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Blackberry messenger?
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zeight Tech: nevermind,got it
T3/r5/2012-01-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What was it?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: when trying to install the new gmcp mapper to the new mush, i get this error You have not specified a script file name:The alias subroutine named "mapper.gotoNextResult" could not be found.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: any suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: anyone have a problem with Firefox after the lastest automatic update?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: the page layout is screwed up
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: just get google chrome instead :)
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: yea i ended up doing that on my desktop already after the same issue
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: now my problem is that I can't even use IE to download Chrome since i already uninstalled FF and for some reason IE stopped working a few mins ago?  already did all virus scans, malware, etc yesterday so it should be fine....no porn today :P
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: try a restore
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: just long enough to get chrome
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Also, you may have an addon problem.. Try disabling them.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: im actually on my works network and it finally timed out and said check network connection....but im still able to play this mud.......
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: lol odd!
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: nvm i just closed it and reopened it now it works?  geez
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: me love teknologie
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: Should google "Ali G techmology"
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dirkdiggler Tech: lol Ali G is the man
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: anyone have a fix to my error earlier?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: You have not specified a script file name:The alias subroutine named "mapper.gotoNextResult" could not be found.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: anybody know why after installing the new MushClient i no longer see details in the main window?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What do you mean by "details"
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: as in i only see what i type, no room name, room description, nothing
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you install Basts by any chance?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: possibly, have a bunch of old addons, do i need to start over with addons?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I recall an issue like that with basts
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Never heard of it with the stock Fiendish mushclient, but yeah I'd honestly start over.  Start with a clean install or upgrade of Fiendish's mushclient.  He has directions on how to do that on his website.  Then add other plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: was trying to avoid that, takes a while but c'est la vie, we do what we must to move forward
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: ty for info
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I know it sucks having to start over, but honestly that's pretty much the new install procedure with upgrading Fiendish's Mushclient.  HE has detailed upgrade directions on his website, but it starts with a clean install
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's linked on his website, but actually on Aardwolf's.  http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm  Down on the bottom are the upgrade instructions.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: now it says "Trigger function "chats" not found or had a previous error." any idea what that error means
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: and it keeps saying it
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Falcon how did you install it?  Did you follow directions on code wiki?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: no just on the main aardwolf site
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm then not sure why you are seing that error.  Have you tried closing out and reopening Mushclient?  That'll reload that plugin and possibly avoid the error.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: ok reload got rid of that error now time to try to figure out plugins, *crosses fingers* :)
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: guess its a good time to minimize my plugins :)
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: did anybody ever make a good container sort plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do containers need sorting?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: when you are as OCD as me, sadly yes
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: I have a thing container_sort dont remember from who
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: madcatz
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: Madcatz
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: People need their containers sorted? :o
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: madcatz has a container sort that works?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: only OCD people
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: it works nicely. you may have to turn off the prompt
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: sorts it, and you can get/put all items in a level range in/out containers
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: have to have prompt on actually
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: COuld you just make your prompt %c if you wanted?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Or  maybe.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: @w
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well I think you need the carraige return for quite a few plugins on mush.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: when i tried to load Madcatz plugin i got "Line    1: Value for PUBLIC not supplied (Cannot load)"
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: hmmm. didnt get that error
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: check the fricking permissions in your directories
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: do you have a link to the xml? what i found was a link to a google doc that you had to save as an xml
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Falconfury Tech: full admin privlages to folder of plugin and mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuli Tech: how do I turn command echo on in MUSHClient?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: when trying to install the new gmcp mapper to the new mush, i get this error You have not specified a script file name:The alias subroutine named "mapper.gotoNextResult" could not be found. any suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why are you installing a new mapper to a new mush? the new mush includes the gmcp mapper
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: well when i started it up i had that error
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: it was working..i restarted and now it doesnt work.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check your mushclient\lua folder...the proper file ships there, as that's where it belongs
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: what file do i need there?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a set of 5 "require" lines in the aard_gmcp_mapper.xml file, which it's trying to load
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: you fixed it...thanks a lot
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: How do I save all the stuff that MUSH mapped out with the automapper thing?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: i beleive it auto saves
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: mine saves automatically I think.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: It auto-saves, yes, but if I were to transfer it to a fresh copy of MUSH
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: ahh i do not know
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: if you follow the directions for upgrading mush, it'll tell you what things to move, and the maps are included in that.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, thanks =D
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I just lost all my maps again, and this time I want to backup somehow
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you what and what?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey fiend
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yah know new pwr supplys make a big differenct in system performance
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts peers intently at Lrynn.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course it does
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: difference in system reliability yes
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's like the difference of having power and not having poewr
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bit of a subjective statement
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bit like saying case design affects system performance
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it has blue LEDs! They scream!
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: speed holes
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which cretin thought leds and holes were a good idea?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kotty Piip Dashiell raises an eyebrow.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: someone who didn't pay the electricity bill, clearly
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I remember one time I was buying a case fan, and it was cheaper to get a clear one that had three color leds in it
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheap isn't always best
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it was a pretty good fan
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://users.silenceisdefeat.net/~fiendishx1/livejournal/casefaninside.jpg
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: the electric bill for the LEDs in computer cases is only slightly higher than the electric bill for an unplugged toaster.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this was also many years ago
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: annoys me that they don't do deeper fans with a bigger airflow at lower rpm
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "they" do
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're much much rarer
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you just need to look at 120mm and other specialty sizes
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the big problem is clearance and appropriate cutouts
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: plenty of fans are designed with low noise in mind. and low noise means lower rpm
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no issues for me, one 120mm fan is bolted to the upright cpu cooler, the other mounted at the front of the case with about an inch extra clearance
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i would have liked to have fitted heatpipes to my gfx because the passive cooler on it is wank
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ideally a heat pipe that flipped over the card, twisted 90 degrees laterally so could sit behind the upright cpu cooler and therefore be cooled by the same fan
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but i guess it's traditional for consumer PC stuff to be grossly underengineered, else nobody would ever need to replace stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I remember seeing a case once that was designed around the idea of having no fans at all, so it had fittings for heat pipes that would run out to the case walls
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and the case itself was made of copper or something
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: sounds dangerous.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nods, i saw that, was a very large case though, and about $1000 just for the case as I recall
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not dangerous
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't remember the old original Apple cubes?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's a shame for the PC industry at all that Apple consistently come up with better (physically) engineered products
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i know.. can't anyone do as well? it seems not
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they don't even appear to try
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the apple toaster was an incredibly cute design that was unfortunately too soon
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: http://www.idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=32&idproduct=514
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: 100 bucks
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: lol nano itx
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: anything in a nano-itx factor isn't generating any heat anyway
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Horizontal HyPo Tech: Heh, well you can't get everything, can you?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: over the past 10 years, dell's designs have moved steadily toward serviceability...techs can replace anything (or everything) inside them with no tools in about 5 mins...apple's never had serviceability as a goal...
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not entirely true
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the G3 and G4 tower designs were fantastic
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i get the impression apple designed to not break down to start with
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they were better, not fantastic when measured to the same yardstick
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Apple's swinging door cases were genius
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the Mac cube had no fans at all, but they created a custom return carton to ship it back to apple
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: especially when compared against everything else at the time
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: android 3 will finish apple off in 5 years. 
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: broken gfx card, power supply, etc...ship the entire computer back to apple
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course now Apple doesn't care about computers anymore
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Jerome: unlikely
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im thinking of getting the new cosmsos case from coolermaster, i have the original now and really like it
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, jerome...people have said that about <xxx> for the past 20 years with apple
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: "finish off apple" lol.. in bizarro universe maybe
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: iOS is really slick, and even Windows Phone 7 works smoother than Android
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: apple wants to sell everything via itunes. it doesnt have flashplayer. I know lots of people regretting their ipad and switching right now
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my 8 month only can work iOS .. sorta
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: dont know i have an ipad brother has a kindle, appl pretty much owns that mrkt imo
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i love my ipad
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah my 3yr old daughter loves mine
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my dad got an ipad recently as a gift. he wanted to be able to put files on it from his computer. it turns out that that particular maneuver is incredibly unstraightforward
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thank st:tng for ipad
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have to take it form here lol
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if his computer is a modern apple, fiendish, it can be set up to sync automatically
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: they dont like ripped movies too much picky about format
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they want you to be using apple formats downloaded from itunes, lrynn
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: provided apple users stick to apple products and services, it all works pretty flawlessly
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's why certain industries and groups of peoples live by them
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and why people who like to tinker... don't
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jerome, did you know that adobe discontinued flash player?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i know they do but i like to legally download stuff...cough...cough and watch it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unavowed Tech: My iphone is loaded with all kinds of legally downloaded stuff... works perfectly.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i use Freemake Video Converter to make things apple format.. works really well
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: been using handbrake and its working nicely
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just had problems at first with itunes not wanting to take it
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, I've ripped most of our DVDs to throw into itunes
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah same
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keeps the kiddies from destroying the DVDs
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah i have a ipad full of strawberry shortcake and barbie movies
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and netflix is awsome for kids lol
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you ahve a home server.."air Video" works flawlessly
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't i read somewhere someone offering a $10m reward for a working design of a StarTrek tricorder?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for streamign movies to your iphone over wifi or 2g
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod tiger
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: 3 g
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's about as close to awesome as it gets, really
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: shame really, you won't get the big pushed in technology now that a certain american president we won't name nerfed NASA
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: When compiling .NET applications with mono is there some kind of define made that I could use in code like #if MONO
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: why do TV manufacturers advertise 1USB port on the tvs when they are only used for firmware updates and not by the standard user
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: [MUSH] if I want to send an alias in a trigger, i don't send it to world right?  where do I send it?  script?  excute?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Misfit Hotcakes Tech: execute
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: execute
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: execute
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks.  (no wonder they were working..  heh)
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: either script or execute will work. if script then you need to use the Execute() function
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: weren't*
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone on here use kindle books?  and might be able to anwser a question?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i do 
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I want to reread a books.. how to I reset it so when I switch devices it keeps my synced accoring to this read, not send me to the last page from my last read?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: good question ....I have a similar problem with cookbooks ....you skip to a recipe but then it shows that as where you left off
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i dont know the answer.....i just search with cookbooks again
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm.. I found a site for kindle questions, but they expect you to pay for the anwser.  its honor system, but still.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: maybe I'll ask on amazon
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i hated the kindle, i love my nook though
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: I acutally use the kindle app on my ipad.  I have apps for kindle, nook, kobo, overdrive, ibooks, and a few others.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: i love my kindle...use it every day
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: the e ink is so much better than reading on my backlit phone or tablet
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ucla Tech: there is an amazon forum I cant imagine that question hasn't been answered if we both have that problem everyone must have come across it
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: the way I use my ipad when i read, the eink wouldn't work.  99% of them time I'm reading in a completely dark room.  :p
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i dont know if i'm late, but the iBooks updated app has a dark version
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: helps a lot, it basically darkens the page and puts white words instead.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: i i
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: o o
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: hah sorry
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hehe
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: so I installed a plugin, and right under my prompt is everyone of my stats -dam roll hit roll str etc... it wont go away by disabling the plugin, any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type statmon
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what plugin did you install?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: that did it!.... it was a plugin to see how much xp i received over a certain amount of time
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: google sketchup is pretty cool
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i love it
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i created my whole house in it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: recreated anyways
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: One of the best little known google projects
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Google is a monopoly!
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: had my architect build my blueprint for the one i'm building and make it compatible with sketchup so i can show people on my computer :D
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: How do you level-restrict an exit in the mapper, anyone?  I used to know but I can't remember.
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: right click ont eh room.. pick the menu option
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: That's it, thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: How do you reference a column name with a space in sql?
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: `column name`
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: "column name"
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea those
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's the key left of one
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah `those`!
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mssql also lets you do [column]
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: well woot thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: In the future i just won't name a column 'company name' heh
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is there something tricky about the mysql alter tables change name clause? I'm following syntax right from the manual.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Trying to change the `company name` to company_name, heh
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh nm I got it. I wasn't including the size of the varchar.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: has anyone had problems getting bast's miniwin for CPs working?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i've tried mcp CP show, but it doesn't show up
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mcp CP info says shown = true
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I had problems previously, but once I upgraded mush it seemd to work better.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: hmm, i'll try logging and see if that fixes it
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: huh, well that fixed it*boggle*
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: hehehe :)
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast updated the plugins where Fiendish changed to Lua 5.2 I think.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: know what the command is to see what version i have  of bast's?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: should show up in the help for any of his plugins that you have installed.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: bsp help, for instance.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: ah, so it is
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: ....if you're using the spellup plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yup i'm up to date.  I've been putting off going to the most recent release of aardmush cause i have to merge in my locals to the mapper :)
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: your locals?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yes i added more functionality to it :)
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I guess move his mapper database.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: heh.  yeah, depending on what you did, just copying the database may not be enough.  I go the route of requesting changes through fiendish instead.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: ie, Wyza tweeked it to be more bot like.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: well, folks rarely tweak things to make them more difficult....
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza :P
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: "I added three new aliases so that if I type them in sequence correctly, the first mob in the room will be engaged in battle."
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i didn't see a point in not being able to search an area for a room without having to be in said area.  and i didn't see a point in searchign the entire db (which will eventually have 30k entries ) when the area only have 50 rooms in it
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: so now i can search for a room in an area without being in the area.  much faster searching and much more appropriate results
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: mapper find and mapper area are your friends.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mapper find is all rooms
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: oh, alternate area from current, I get it.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yup
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but fiendish purposely left it out of the public version, even though he wrote something similar, so i just wrote it myself :)
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wyza: Where did you get the information that he did?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: he said as much here
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: said he considered putting it in, but decided against it
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to have mush send an email?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: As an attachment.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: my S&D plugin lets you search other areas for rooms
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: nice, the first room in any area int he fastest possible way was something i was going to do myself this afternoon, lol,  no reinventing the wheel i guess
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: do it anyways.  Invention always seems to find a new path branching off the most well-travelled roads, you know.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: can you make a specific field in you prompt a different color?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You hate black on white?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: hate!
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: haha
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: just want the amount of time left in double exp, to be in red
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Alt+0
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Great, thank you!
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: the version of the client i'm used to showed help to a new black on white window. is this gone in newer versions or is something wrong with my setup?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: when the exit is killing a monster, how do i set the cexit?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: that would probably be considered botting
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Hmm, is there a way to remind myself that its killing a certain mob?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if one uses the MOBDEATHS HERE command, will it always show all the mob keys of that area?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if i had to guess, the normal restrictions apply
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: My who list is not broken up into pages, it all comes scrolling down in one shot.  Is there something to toggle for this?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: help paging
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: thank you!
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: is there a convenient way to tell one mobkey from another from a player standpoint?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i rely on my memory
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works for me
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I do do, but the nifty mob database script I'm building probably shouldn't.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: Dokkar ifyou c command mob it will tell you if you should (better off) kill it
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Speaking of drunk.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, and slit works great as well
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not looking to kill it, just looking for a way to reliably tell oyster-1 from oyster-15 when both might or might not be the same on several other datapoints (level, hp, etc).
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: kinda trying not to build a 250k-record DB by hand, yanno?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Just add the oyster as one entry.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Even though it's not.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: bleh, just noticed that mobdeaths doesn't have a large enough name field and several are getting cut off.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Same in lastkills, very annoying.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: easier ways to tell if it's your CP oytser
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: assuming oyser is only in one area?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the area is being limited to just the current zone thanks to the HERE keyword.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: crap, where's not long enough either.  Guess I have to do it by hand... :(
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: so how many different grovs are there?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 10!
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: runto zangar and type MOBDEATHS HERE.  Unless there are more than 100 mobkeys in the area, you can just count them all.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that beats 10 factorial (!)
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: There is a way you don't have to make by hand is if you capture the enemy name from gmcp when fighting.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fine! 4 Reality.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: he
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Duckbat: That is how you made you mob database?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: No.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: I take from lastkills and change when name is trimmed.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: name is not enough data to warrant putting it in the database, unless you are sure the mobkey is unique for the area (ie, not like gro* in zangar's or oysters in maelstrom).
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Why do you need separate entry for each key?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: there are also other ways to capture mob names
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: who made gaur roominator?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: because the less-accessible info like hp, level, etc may be different across mobkeys
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: What does knowing mob hp give you? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: iirc, mob hp isn't identical every pop anyway
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: And mob resists / stats can easily change when it casts spellups on itself so that's not concrete either.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: does that affect what interrogate shows?  I thought interrogate only showed the mobkey stuff, rather than realtime info?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Interrogate shows realtime afaik.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: interrogate a mob, spell it up, and interrogate it again
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: err, I'd need help with that I think.  Don't think my alt has applicable spellups to check for himself (level 12 paladin).
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: why am i getting coords all the time when using runto - is it a new feature of have i inadvertently changed something?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: type tags and turn off what you dont need
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thinkon Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: confirming absinthe for windows 0.2 jailbreaks an iPad2
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: YES!
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is the PS3 adaptor HDMI to USB or is it just a PS3 to HDMI/USB connector?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is it just me or is Cydia glitchy after jailbreaking the 4S using Absinthe?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No Changes are listed, I cannot seem to Refresh (it takes ages and then nothing happens) and it can't find anything through search (looking through packages reveals that a whopping 30-something apps are currently available to me).
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Magically, after a 2nd refresh that lasted 5 minutes, it now seemingly works.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: anyone have any clue why mushclient would lag as im about to die every time? lol
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it knows
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: conspiracy man....
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is there a command to make the Bast spellup window show up if i accidentally closed it?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: bsp help
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: bsp show
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: hi
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i know that command "alias" can remmember on mud sever,what else command can do so
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sorry - what are you trying to do?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: i want to know some command can remember on mub sever,
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: remember what?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: such alias
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, i cant get bast's spellup window to come back, anyone know the command?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: remmeber on this server
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: just like email
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I"m not understanding - what are you trying to remember?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything you type into the mud is kept on the mud...all your settings here are stored
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "command" for a list of commands
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: command
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: just like graffiti
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: you must spent some trivia
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: everything that costs trivia is listed in help tp
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: just like command alias
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what does it do?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: just like alias that i can save some command
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and why can't you use alias?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what else command like alias
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: runprefix?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias is the command like alias
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would there be another command like it?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: those are the only commands that save commands
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: nod
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how runprefix
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: are QUERY and FIND arguments case sensitive?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: in cMUD
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't believe they are.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only takes 2 tries to find out
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I might be wrong, but then again it's sort of a dead feature given the sql support.
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: okay, has anyone who uses Bast's spellup plugin ever accidentally closed it down?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone use Bast's spellup plugin, because now I really screwed it up
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not possible
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can always delete the state file and start over
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sure it is.. I did it.  but bast helped me.  :)
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: remove, reinstall and restart?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: I screw my stuff up daily :p
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: which one do i reinstall to get it to be like new?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: has anyone tried to send email via mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it's doable, you'd be using COM.  It was already done via CMud, and I think Abe does it via TF.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its not done via com  in mush i dont believe. there is a script on gammon's site, i just get access denied errors
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wanted to know if my server or me
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you aren't using COM, then you're doing it via some API dll.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea i get that, im just wandering if anyone has tested it, so i know if its my smtp server, or my script
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't need any dll or com. you can send email via telnet using luasocket
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no, haven't tried
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ha that was my next question
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks for reading though :)
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what forum thread are you looking at?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try telnetting to your server, it may require smtp auth or tls
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=10027
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what error message are you seeing?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Error: 550 Access denied - Invalid HELO name (See RFC2821 4.1.1.1)
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, that's useful, it says what your server didn't like
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: which leads me to think its smtp server, but i wasnt 100% certain
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the first part of communications in smtp is generally a HELO or an EHLO line, where you say what your <host> name is
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soltair Tech: I am getting no return on FIND or QUERY in cMUD.  I WAS getting a No records found. for a while, but now I am getting nothing.  Any ideas why?  I have tried to once again DBLOAD and still nothing.  I have preceding them with DBRESET, so that's not the issue
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tried #DBFIRST?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno what luasocket does for that, if anything, but I don't see it in the forum post
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess you could disable HELO checking
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if it's YOUR (owned) server
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: shared hosting smtp server :(
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no real smtp server should have it disabled
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: try opening MUSHclient/socket/smtp.lua and find/replacing EHLO with HELO
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I guess this doesn't address your issue
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: holliday, by where it has the server = and port =, put a domain = foo line
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what it'll use for the EHLO line
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ok ill try that now
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically the server should accept absolutely anything for that, but it should be present
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if not defined it does have default values in smtp.lua
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if i change smtp.lua should i reload mush for it to take effect?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess so
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: changing smtp.lua is probably not a great idea, though :\
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this should be done in the script which you're calling, which started from a pasted version of the forum post
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: damn
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i was sending test tells to myself and now i have lost tell access :(
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, next time change up the tells a bit...access will be automatically restored, you can type recover to see when
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: oh its only like 10 minutes, im ok with that lol
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: good to know though
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: works, thanks guys
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice, was it just the domain line, or something else needed?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: once i got in the smtp.lua the smtp server/domain/port etc were constants - altered those and voila
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: shouldn't have been constants. the constants are only used as backups
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you should be able to set those values externally
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: then it was the "domain" line
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I appreciate it
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: If I'm standing in a noportal room, is mapper smart enough to move me to a portalable room before it attempts to use my garbage can?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: I remember there being a way inside of Nick Gammon's Spellup plugin to add a spell at the /front/ of the list opposed to the end, can anyone tell me the context to use? its not in the help.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I am viewing another world window in MUSH, any output from the first window gets cut at about 25 characters - anyone know how/if I can prevent this?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Aah, google code wiki is really bugged. Can't edit anything, can't create new pages. Have to open each page 3 times to avoid the "500 error".
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's probably in beta ;)
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Pff. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: boo :( I'm having trouble with what i think is an inventory or eq plugin (i'm using the most recent version of aard mush). I get this error when picking something up: Trigger function "invitem" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, put the kettle on
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: close and open the client again
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: hm
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: okay
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the first time the trigger fails it'll tell you which plugin, after that it's just a red line
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: if you can, scroll up and find the cause
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: heh i was lazy when i saw it and thought eh. brb.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nothing complained!
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we can soon change that
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Quick question: How do i setup the alias to grab a variable by the input, and output that same variable?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i know it has something to do with the * and 1%
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i just forgot how exactly to use it.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, MUSH sorry about that.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: if you insist. okay,
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Phalae rubs his hands together in greedy anticipation.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you need a "trigger", loot to highlight as a pattern
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: you need a "trigger", look to highlight as a pattern
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Well let me explain why i want to use it.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: theoretically i hear that you can see in your bags using the eq miniwindow. but right now, the eq miniwindow (bast) only thinks i have 1 bag, but i have 7
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: can that be fixed somehow?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i want to be able to type qs (blah) and have it output Question (blah)
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: that way i dont have to type out the whole word for example.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that is a macro
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: alias - qs *, output question %1
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats it Saelle, thanks.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: I thought you wanted to change a persistent variable, but if it's just a one-off thing =)
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dunno why mine was messed up
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: oh i had 1% lol
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phalae Tech: nevermind! you people work magic. thanks :)
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imouto Saelle Tech: Hehe those things
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wal-Mart launches "American Idol"-like contest
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: ok guys, I need a lighthearted movie to watch, anyone got any suggestions?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: tenacious d and the pick of destiny
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Lighthearted as in something blows up?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: is there a way to get a continent map to regenerate in mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: or delete out a bad exit, which is all I really need?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bigmap off, delete exit
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click on the mapper window, then hide the continent bigmap, then you can right click on the room to edit exits
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: sweet, thank you very much
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: on mush is there an easy way to separate channels in the communication log?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: separate box for group, separate for clan, separate for tells, etc?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: quick stupid questoin,is the expression for on or more words the same? as in Seek * out somewhere in the vicinity where %1=a crocodile?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what client and what context?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: mushclient,working on leasrning reg exp by doing my own triggers,now im on qreport
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well for regexp you'd want .* and yes that would also capture multiple words
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: ok,forgot im working with plain,not regexp
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: know why my greet trigger works on echo but not on a actual person entering?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you're not echoing the right thing
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: hmmm i kinda looked but not to hard, how do u update the bast plugins when a new one comes out?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: go download again from his website
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: i echoed a copied message of a guy entering,it worked but when he done it,nothing happens
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: ahh nvm i got it
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you echoing?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Apocolyte: does your prompt end in %c?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: Hmmm anyone know here a mush plugin is for the mobs in the same room as u like a mini win
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What do you mean? A plugin that lists the mobs in the same room?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably like a consider miniwin
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is the consider miniwin.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Question: do you have to actually type "consider" for it to populate the list? Or does it auto-populate?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: because thats a pretty hot miniwin.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: is there one that is already in a file without having to C/P and where would i find it?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The miniwin is nice, but does lack.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, apparently its not really nice BloodBath. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Make your own!!
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: haha yea i would but i wouldnt even know how to start coding something like that lol.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Neither do I, thats why i'm asking you :D
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you usually start with the first character
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: okay i missed this step,in a trigger,how are you going to trigger 3 lines of info into one message?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: use the ; key
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: in mush anyways
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: no,i mean 3 trigger phrases with 3 diffrent pieces of info to grab'
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: in this case,mob,room,area and put it in one line
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can either make a multiline trigger, or make separate triggers that turn each other off and on.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: im going multiline then,so it fires if only the set triggers are present together?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just make three triggers, one for each line you want to capture from?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: then how do you get the info into one line?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What info are you wanting to capture?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: make a trigger to report quest info
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: so mob,room and area
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm pretty sure the 'quest info' command does that, if you're on a quest.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: but to report it to a channel
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But if I wanted to capture it via a trigger, I would make three triggers, one for each line that contains the info I want.  Have them save the info into an appropriate variable.  Then, the last trigger to fire would also do whatever processing you need/want done on the stored info.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: lost me
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: multiline triggers are tricky. I tend to just make multiple single line triggers that activate and deactivate each other
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that also allows ommitting intermediate lines, which multiline triggers don't allow
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling is agreeing with that Ol' Dirty Fiendish person again...
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Any tintin users around?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm a basic user - Ixle, what's your question on tintin?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh, filesonic got shut down, too
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: after megaupload a day or two ago
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: They are shutting down several places it seems.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I had heard rumours that megaupload was in cahoots with people uploading illegal content in order to drive premium subscriptions, which is why they were shut down, but don't know how solid those rumours are.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: You never know. No matter what source, even online, they're so biased. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the guy who owned it certainly had a sizeable chunk of wealth
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yay, filejungle still works
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is subclass a settable field on mobs, or is that just picked randomly based on guild?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's settable
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... how is it possible for an UK citizen to be extradited to the U.S. to face charges in a U.S. court when he hasn't committed a single crime on U.S. soil?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Extradition is completely up to the country where he's at
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Some idiot U.K. judge has ruled that Richard O'Dwyer, a British student, can be extradited to the U.S. to face charges of copyright infringement despite the fact that his website did not use any servers on U.S. soil.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So how the heck does the U.S. have jurisdiction over him?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: probably because he's infringing on us companies.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I bet the work he infringed on was from an author/creator who are based there.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If I launch a missile from the US and blow up China, China is going to be mad at me, even though I wasn't on Chinese soil when I did it.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: But that doesn't give the U.S. jurisdiction.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And that missile analogy is entirely different from this case.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: There are specific treaties concerning copyrights
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, there really aren't.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: go look up TRiP
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that's what it's called
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So yes.  There are.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: You expect me to read 20 pages of text?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: pretend it's a text game. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If you claim the TRIPs agreement applies in this case, please find the text that supports that and point it out to me.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have no idea what case you're talking about, to be honest.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So why did you even bring TRIPs up?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Because you mentioned extradition and copyright infringements
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And TRIPs apply to all member states
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which the UK and the US are both
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Where in the TRIPs agreement does it speak of jurisdiction and extradition?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: TRIPs is simply a coalition of countries which share the same copyright laws.
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: anyone have a "last hour" tracker (tracking xp for example) for mushclient they'd like to share or direct me to?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: finger bast
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thank you
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Axl Tech: I haven't played here in about 10 years, how should I go about re-learning it?
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: fastest way to learn is playing the game :)
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: I'd give the academy a run through
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: go up from recall, do the academy.  Teaches you the basics, and you get a nice pin with a unique wear location
T3/r5/2012-01-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: just recall and rt basic :)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Any easy way to take the mob chat out of the chat window in MUSH?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: rightclick the chat window, customize channels, remove mobsay
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: nice thanks, last question. In customize channels everything is high lighted. Best way to just remove mobsay without unclicking the rest?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: ctrl+click
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks again
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: These friggin wyrm mobs chat way to much :p
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: nod.. never noticed till mush :p
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone using S&D have a problem using xrt astral, cant get it to runto astral travels.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There's a mazy room, I think
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can use a cexit, I believe.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Hmm odd, where do you think the maze is at
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: its weird because the normal speedwalk is very basic
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ive ran it over and over tried changing the xset mark... shrug
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: its a custom exit.. first room ports you to second automatically
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't know, actually. It just ran there fine.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: To fix it change the beginning room
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: of Astral.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: type speedwalk astral.. then manually run 1 room short of it.. then use cexit to go next room
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: nice, that did it. thanks again
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Are variables plugin-local by default, in LUA?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: if a trigger starts with a variable,must it be regexp or can it stay standard?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it can stay standard
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: any ideas why my triggers that send tells,do doubles?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are the tells coming in double?  Or are you sending two tells out?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who are you sending the tells to?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: double tells for next 10 minutes :P
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: sending two
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're sending to yourself, then you'll see it twice...once as the sender, once as the recipient
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: True story!
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Why not use gt or echo?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: uhm,lol so far it just gives info of my char to others,so far just stats
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: so it's twice as good when you do it yourself , sounds familiar
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: my trigger leads into a trigger wich seems to fire double
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: did you trigger it to the word "tell"?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: to be exact * tells you 'dino,report'
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: and even that just fired it
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: try sticking a "^" in front of that
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: without quotation marks
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that wouldn't accomplish anything :P
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: "^*" is same as "*", no? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) it's not regex, (2) anchor before wildcard is meaningless
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best to trigger on gmcp tell message...cannot be spoofed
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dfury shrugs helplessly.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: and you do that,how?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if not using gmcp, then best to be using telltags which can be reliably anchored without knowing the one telling you
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: mccp
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: i think,well its mushclient...
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp is compression, gmcp is a way for the MUD to send you info specially
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: ok,so?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient uses gmcp lots, pretty much all the modern plugins are full of gmcp hooks
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd want to make a plugin that does onpluginbroadcast for the gmcp helper plugin (it's easiest to start by looking at a plugin that already does this)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: anyone ever use webroot?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's that?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: would love to hear some opinions on it
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: can google it?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So basically you're asking if we're using a software company?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What's better for cooling CPU: No side panel on the case or a poorly fitting one ?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone had floydssh?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trubeast Tech: message says another player on from my site but i play from phone
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how search damage type weapon
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: just as shadow type
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: feihulong, on duckbat's site, click help
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it gives the syntax for how to search for specific stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as I mentioned on q/a, there's really nothing special about the shadow damtype...any MOB which is immune all magic will still be immune shadow
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: triggering on tags in mushclient is tricky because you don't see the tags even though they are there
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have to set up any trigger on tell/channel tags with the knowledge that something else also wants to trigger on the same line and will be removing the tags
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and/or hiding the output entirely depending on settings
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess that's just or, not and/or
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: I think one of my plugins is gagging the output for 'list'...either that or every shop is broken, which i doubt
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably not the shop
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: how u clear screen on capture window on lashers stock mud?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: can help tell me the web about goals
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: please restate your question, didin't understand you.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: the web of help goals 
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: you ment clan goals?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: clan site goals*
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: if so talk to your leader
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: feihulong: perhaps you should ask your clannies. :) I think they have some goals on their website.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: for CPU cooling, is it better to have an no/open side panel (with regular dust spraying) or a poorly fitting one?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: a good fan....i keep my case closed 
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well not changing out the cooling system, just using what i have
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is it getting hot?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: are you not supposed to keep the side open?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: as long as the case is well ventilated i dont feel the side open willhelp
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i keep mine open all the time
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i dont, just dont like it got kids
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ahh ok, yeah i lost a computer recently though
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its freezing up randomly, so i dont use it anymore
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: one missed glass of coolaid and its gone
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol true
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there any way i can figure out why my computer is freezing? or i'm pretty much screwed.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: vadar, have you tried reformatting and stuff, checking drivers....
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: meh, i have bootleg windows 7 tho :S
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but its worked fine for like a year n a half
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so no, i havent reformated.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: coult be the problem there
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: most my freezing problems are usually driver related thought
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, i assumed as much. I'll probably reformat it back with my original XP
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: drivers? like which ones?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: opening the case actually screws up the air flow
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @Mikejs thanks for that, i didint know that was the case.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: No pun intended, but achieved.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: if my case is open my gpu doesnt get air hardly at all
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: just the way its designed
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Lrynn, How would i check the drivers? (newbie with computer diagnostics lol)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what would i be looking for?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: So a poorly fitting side case panel is better than open...should I actually duct tape it to be completely airtight? or just put it on as best i can
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: if you have a crappy generic case with no fans, it won't matter either way
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: What Mikejs said.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: alot of times the gpu is the culprit for me
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i had a crappy generic case, one of those just grey metal behemoths, no fans at all
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: and my card was running like, 70-80 C idle sometimes
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: it was horrible
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: find out what kind it is, goto the manufacture website and check for an update
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: they update drivers all the time 
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Think it's a decent one, was like $95 at Frys three years ago, looksl ike it actually has two fans
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: coolermaster makes good cases....i got a cosmos 6 fans...
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: Vadar, is your comp freezing when you run certain applications/games? or just randomly even when you're not doing anything
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: just randomly.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: when i play League of legends, and when i browse the web
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: when you're browsing, do you have anything running in the background that uses the cpu?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope, i kill everything thats starts up on startup when i turn on the computer
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and itll last a good couple of minutes
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: why do you kill everything
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: well, the crap my brothers and family download
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: they have dropbox, and stuff like that running
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i dont like it running in the background, so i take it out.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: everything but avast.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: when it freezes, are there any beeps or sounds?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: OH yeah, sometimes it does this wierd RRRRRRRRRR sound
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ....
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: like if there was a sound, i dont know how to explain it with text lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: does it sound like it's from a fan? or from the CD drive?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it plays over the last milisecond of sound over and over i guess would be the only way to explain it.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: or the harddrive?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: no, the speaker i mean.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: oh.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: hmmm
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: not the computer, the computer is fine actually, soudns like its running normally
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: how can it be running normally if it's freezing? :P
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: SOUNDS.. lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: My usual diagnosis for that is there's too much porn...or not enough
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: sounds coming from teh desktop = nothing. Sounds from the speakers = Loud
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Mushambo, your ganna have to prescribe my computer some then lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its in a pretty open place to discourage that lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: have you recently updated your drivers at all?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: To be honest i wouldnt know, my brother had been using it often without me checking it.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i was usually the one who would do all the updates and stuff, but i had gotten my ipad so i started using that.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: what kind of card do you have
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: video card
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: want me to go check?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: BRB!
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: go mike on the gpu drivers. thats usually my first place to look
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: yeah it's a good idea, Lrynn
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: wonder where he went, though :P
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: he went to see what kinda gpu he has
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hes not using the computer
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ahh, i thought he was on the pc in question
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i told him to do that earlier
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: if i haver frezzing problems, my checklist is driver, os, then just format, lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ...
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: if all else fails, get a bigger hammer
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: OMG
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: It freezes faster than before :(
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i have like 2-4 minutes on the computer before it freezes
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and i can't figure out what gpu it is
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: anyway to tell from the hardware on the computer?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: if its not an addin card then its integrated into your motherboard
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its an add-in
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i know that for shizzle.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: open the case and look at the model number and stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i mean, i know which card it is and everything. but i cant see a sticker.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: (looking again)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: flashlights help at times lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either cooling problem, damaged HW (capacitors) or simple trojan / virus
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: k, so i pulled teh whole ish out lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its a Radeon 9600XT 128M
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: woot lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nice old card i think i got one of those in the closet lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: SHH its an old card, but it works!
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: its a really old Mobo
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: old computer actually
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: like i said i kept mine, i still use it when mine goes out
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its been bulletproof
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I love it :D
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: q i
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So.. whats your diagnostic? :D
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: reformat?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: does your computer hangs while in BIOS ?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: no idea.. i guess i should try it out, do i have to F8?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need first to check whether it is hardware related or software
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so whats your advice then.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what do i do to check it
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure, you can format, install win and run 3dmark to check whether it was software related
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: you could put the video card in another PC to see if the card is what's wrong
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if after install everything works then it was software related
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: switching hardware is not good idea
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: no, it's not very simple
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: but it can be done
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: switching hardware i know how to do.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I've heard it's very difficult/not worth it to 'future-proof' computers, just buy something mid-range more often, is that true? What about smartphones?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: but i prefer not to.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if gpu is damaged it can damage second computer (very rare but possible)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: as long as you have the latest drivers its no big deal, i do it alll the time
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: yeah, nvm then.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: but thats a possibitlity too trach
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so.. i should go download windows 7 again?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i would agree, mushambo.  why pay premium for something that'll be mid-grade soon enough
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: easiest thing do diagnose hardware is just to replace every element, start with PSU, RAM, GPU, CPU, Mobo
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: a lot of the time you can find nice sales on decent gear, just because it's not cutting edge
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i love decent gear :D
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: hey i found out just the other day that the nvida 8800 i have that is dead has a lifetime warranty from xfx..
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: that will probly be my new spare lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: snap! send it in, and bring it to me lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i have an 8800 gt as my main card right now :P i got it like, almost 4 years ago and it still runs everything beautifully
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well if you were just across town
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: yeah mine was probly 6 or so, it just died recently
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: very good card
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: my graphics card is kinda laggy on the big old resolution i have when i play LoL
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: now i have a 560ti
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i guess its getting to the end of its usefulness.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: i wish the numbering systems made more sense :P bloody numbers going down as the cards get better
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: hello guys im talking from ipad2 :D
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: grats :P
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: used ipad2 as ssh server
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: nice
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: you using tmc
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: via putty -> ssh ipad2 -> telnet here
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: tmc ?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: but but i don't have an ipad2 :(
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: only mud client
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: its te ipad mud client
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: free one anyway
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: no i use telnet from ipad2 jailbreak
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: im scared of jailbreaking lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: apt-get install any software
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: where is no problem - ipad2 jailbrreak is 
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is it easy?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: easy yes
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: 2 click
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: really....
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: and own jailbreaked ipad2
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: there is freebsd inside
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: on ipad2
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: you can send me commands ill test it on ipad
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: by any software what do ya mean like all aps
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: on a ssh
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: im not downloaded pirated apps just root my device
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: Ipad-MARK:~ root# uname -a
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: Darwin Ipad-MARK 11.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.0.0: Tue Nov  1 20:34:16 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1878.4.46~1/RELEASE_ARM_S5L8940X iPad2,1 arm K93AP Darwin
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: just installed top, wget, apt-get, gcc
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: right now i can compile c/c++ aps on ipad
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: guys are you know any useful CLI programs on freebsd ?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's a rather open ended question
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: reading about jailbreaking now lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i dunno, is the windows xp installation program considered a CLI program?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I find https://github.com/busyloop/lolcat to be pretty useful. It'd probably work on freebsd
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: so whos on the jailbroke ipad
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: was it mavook
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: dumb question,can a omited line fire a trigger?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: ok,so how would you stop that from happening?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but firing order/priority and fallthrough are important
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you could make yours the highest priority, and disable fallthrough to prevent other triggers from firing on particular texts...however note that the text you see isn't necessarily the text that is sent (read fiendish's earlier comments), and not all text that is triggered on is sent normally (gmcp text is grabbed from gmcp & not from normal MUD output, so wouldn't be affected by a trigger on the text you see)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (before setting priority, click "help" in the trigger definition window to see if you really want high or low number...I forget)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: why when i send that command nothing show: sendgmcp room.info
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because that's not supposed to show anything...you're sending "room.info", which isn't a gmcp command
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you attempting to do?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you may be looking for "sendgmcp request room"
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: using mush, my gq miniwin didnt openand typin gq c returned an empty echo, any idea what is goin on?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: welcome to the era when people don't know what their scripts do any more
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think for MUDs, that era started around feb 1990
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Where in windows 7 are the sounds? like the beeps and stuff? i want to use a trigger with one of those sounds.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: GAH, add support for MP3 sounds to be triggered pl0x lol
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: match="^(.+) tells you 'msg (.+)'$"
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nevemrind im retarded
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ok - was going to say did I miss something...
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Aardclient bot mode is accessible by pressing alt+f4.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well i was wanting the trigger - to save tells but it also triggers when i hit replay
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Uh-oh. Mendaloth is pointing at Turie, screaming, "LIES!" once again.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the regex that would only include chars/spaces not [time] etc
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: anyone here a builder? I had a question about mobs
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lots of people are/were builders, or perhaps even just asked similar questions.  Best to just ask your question unless there's an obvious gag order you're facing.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: how do i give mobs special attacks kinda like the waitress in masq picking up soup and throwing it at you?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'd post a note on the builder port
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: k thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but in short you can make the mob emote any action and then do arbitrary damage to the player
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you don't even need the mob to emote, since you can send any string you want to the player
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: sounds like I need to get with my coder then heh
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vasrysn Tech: thanks :)
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats regex for alphanum and spaces?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if regex doesn't do \a for alphanumerics, use \d and \w.  \s is for whitespace, and you'd be putting them in a character class.
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so [a-zA-Z0-9\s] ? would do alpha numeric or space
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: err, yes but that's rather cumbersome
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: even simpler, use \w instead of a-zA-z
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: (\d\w\s) is shorter
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: er [\d\w\s]
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well i was looking for multiple words pretitle and name
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's what the + is for.  If I recall, + is 1 or more, so it'd be [...]+
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: [\d\w\s]+  . ill give that a try
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can also use, umm, * if you have situations where it might not be there, and you can also specify a fixed-length to look for ([...]{2,6})
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks guys, got it
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kleptonia Tech: anyone here?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: trying to create a trigger that will donate half of my mob gold to the clan I am in, any simple way to do this?
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: l
T3/r5/2012-01-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: i'd assume you could trigger on died and gold....
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: well clannie advised on this, You get 
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: well clannie advised on this, You get 
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: well clannie advised on this, You get (*) gold coins from * <--- trigger pattern ----> clando (%1/2)--> clando (%1/2)
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: having a donation every time you get money from a mob will become quite spammy, you might just want to save all your money on hand for the day and at the end of the day donate half and deposit half
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: spam I do not care about, in fact I eat it with peanut butter
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: and a nice chianti?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: in that case im happy im not in your clan
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: very funny
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: nm
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'm always very funny.  just ask anyone who is not in my clan or on my flist.  or on public channels.  or the internet.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: why not just do this. every time a clannie levels up, add their level number to a variable and set up an on exit trigger to donate cumulative lvl x 10 gold to clan
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raidyn Tech: thanks...... i see yer point
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obfuscated Ozu Tech: or even donate as they level. still be doing donating but be far less spammy as it will coincide with all the other auto grats triggers in the clan
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: i like that idea ozu
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or just save your gold and forget donating, shrug.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: but then they wont get promoted
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: meh :P
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: i keep getting te message Alias function "map_area" not found or had a previous error. from i believe WinkleWinkle's search and destroy plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: how do i go about re-enabling the sw to room function it provides
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: What type of wireless network encryption has a password with 8 characters?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: WEP?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: is that a guess? or it's WEP?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: it will be defined as a guess...
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: a guess based on anything in particular
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: ?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Just curious what the standard type of protection most wireless networks come with
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: normally there is an 8 digit key on the router
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: but I seem to have a very old wireless pickup that is not prompting for the 8 digit password
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: that has likely nothing to do with a wireless password, but the password for the router
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: No, it's definitely the wireless password
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: because I've connected every other computer in the house to it
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: normally they prompt for it though, this software wi-fi pickup is not prompting for the password
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: WEP doesn't appear to be an option for the "authentication method"
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: there is like, shared key, open access, WPA, WPA-PSK, and 802.1
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wep sucks and should never be used
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i'm lost there if you can't choose wep
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: is there really no "default" authentication method that most routers come with?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: my router only comes with wep, no wpa. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I remember the days when people would have unsecured wireless networks, but these days it seems they come secured by default
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kotty Piip Dashiell Tech: it's that old.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: and usually when you try and connect to a network it prompts you for an 8 didig password
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: digit*
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err, the wifi manager should show you the encryption method
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, why don't you set your own passphrase?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: wifi manager is very old and screwed
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why's that?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: it doesn't prompt for a password like every other wireless manager
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uninstall it then
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: but I've just seen on this laptop, that maybe it is WPA - with AES encryption
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: use windows default, should work fine
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: not sure what uninstalling will achieve, seeing as a), the hardware then won't work, and b) the OS doesn't prompt for a pw either
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how do you end up with a problem like that? normal people set their wifi ssid, set wpa2-psk, then set your own passphrase and finally just connect to it
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds like you're using bad (or bad default) settings on the router
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: Ok, but I didn't know to set wpa-psk
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I've literally just figured that out
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I'm sure the settings are screwed, it's not my computer
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: it connects to the network just fine
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: some routers have bizarre "user friendly" options with pins and such
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: just not the internet, because it acts like it doesn't need a pw
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: the weird thing is, if I install the wifi-manager (belkin), to use the windows wireless config thing, the hardware stops working
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I mean, if it uninstall the wifi-manager
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: it seems like the windows wireless config and the belkin wireless config are conflicting with each other somehow, but if I install the belkin software the hardware dies
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: crap uninstall
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir acks!
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: belkin sucks
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: I typed that all out again because I missed the U off install
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: then I typoed in the same spot
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: it's just a temporary measure, until I can claim on insurance for the last wi-fi which was stolen
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: wow, it's going
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: just need to know wpa-psk and AES
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: if my initial question had been answered correctly it would have been solved
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: anyway, thanks for the help
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maskew Tech: can I download wi-fi to a phone that doesn't have it? 
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dont' think it works that way
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: can I download the internet to my phone over a modem line?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: can you WHAT?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's like asking if you can copy a cdrom drive via floppy disk
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Averan giggles.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: can i download ink into this pencil?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: perhaps, "how are you going to connect to download the wifi?"
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: how do I get my toaster to download iToast off the internets?  and is that legal?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: why i got time to vote on my prompt
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: help ivoted
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: help ivoted
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: in tt++, is there any way to get it to automatically read in a file at start?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: is there any kind of program out there I can use to lock my computer but keep mush and such running?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: are you running windows?  just hit the windows key + L
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: beautiful :D
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone using a recent chromium nightly for debian? I can't find the site where I downloaded the precompiled executable, and the install script complains I'm not using Ubuntu -_-
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Any ideas why I see {invitem}732967736,,a pair of blue pants,51,7,0,-1,-1 
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Usually when I level up, but also randomly when I pick up items.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: turn tags off
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: the invitem config?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Which tags specifically? My inv tags are off.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops sorry misread your question
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: why would some one choose a start from scratch idle programming language over a component based language like delphi?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: because Delphi is mostly dead
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Sometimes language beats components and sometimes the reverse. Depends on what you wanna do.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: delphi is dead? What has taken over its place
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: The future.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm not trying to trolling here.. i jsut know that the delphi jobs have dried up.. a lot fewer of them than there was around 2000
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: I remember Delphi fondly for the ease of composing windows apps but it's pretty much useless for anything lese.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: else*
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I'm an ex-Delphi dev
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: I loved Delphi a lot. It was excellent for what it does.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delphi was mostly a stopgap hack to access stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: c# was designed by the same guy..e verything you liekd about Delphi.. plus everything you hated.. fixed
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: To be honest, Delphi was only really good because of the good visual form designer.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: As Winkle said, C# is probably your best choice. I have to deal with it every day, it's not that bad.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: i have never seen a visual builder before. I use python. But i cant wrap my head around   people's preferances between languages if they can all do the same thing
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Well Delphi isn't really a language
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they can't all do the same thing as well as each other...
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: The language is Pascal, Delphi suggests a toolkit
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: frameworks are different than languages
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: And an IDE
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: ah.... So delphi is just a kit pascal is the language.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tools for a job...ball peen and claw hammers can both "do the same thing"...sometimes it's better to use one, sometimes it's better to use the other
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: As far as I know, Delphi is the IDE for (OO) Pascal
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to choose proper tool for your needs, for example for databases you can use Progress Openedge (for its features) or Oracle (because of popularity)
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and delphi was not designed to be a "production" language, but a "teaching" language
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or so i was told
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, if you've got the money for an oracle license
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Well pascal was designed as an teaching language I guess but Delphi was designed as a work horse IDE
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: oracle express is free
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx, read the terms...
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: At the time it had to compete with Visual Basic 6.0 and it was way better for that
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it sure was!
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with limitation - doesn't matter for small developer
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it rocked in comparison
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Yeah, of course my code always sucked but you could get some good stuff up fairly quickly
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: can you construct different parts of a programme with different languges them join them?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Sure but there are a miriad of ways of doing that
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in .net you can.. kinda  as long as they are all diff .net languages or you link to the dlls
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can, but what for? unless some low-level routines there is no point to use 2 (or more) languages
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Sometimes (in .NET) it might be convienent to write parts of logic in F# for instance and the UI/shell stuff in C#
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many programs are made up of both C and assembly...the intensive things done in assy for speed, the rest done in C for easy of programming/debugging
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: But you can always link stuff up with services if you wan't to get really creative
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depending on what the end-product is, you may construct the "program" as mseparate programs which talk to each other to accomplish the task
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: like you said oracle's good with databases. So what does that mean, you get to choose which part of your programme is going to be crappy depending on the languge/ide you choose?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oracle is a database, it's not good with databases
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i LOATHE oracle
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You snicker with him about your shared secret.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: You're thinking the wrong way Vamp, don't think crappy, think "better suited to the task"
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: which is your favourite language abe?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, our primary vertical database that we use could be done in MS SQL (couldn't scale to the size we need), oracle (double the price for license), or informix embedded
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: here's a nice quote: "Bad programming is easy.  Idiots can learn it in 21 days, even if they are dummies."
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is money in bad programming, so it is business wise (for seller) to make crap
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: oh wow thanks sotoura...
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with informix, you could do vendor API calls, but couldn't query the db directly
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's only money in bad programming if you can sustain sales
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol microsoft did bad programming for years ans look how big they got
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, still if you create perfect program - there will be no money for support or upgrades
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for every microsoft, there's a thousand quality software devs that went belly up
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: I'm not saying anything about you Vampfox, I just thought it was a funny quote!
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and another 2 thousand crappy ones that similarly went belly up
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Every programmer who says he or she is only writing quality stuff is lying or being too anal.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Sometimes some crappy code is all it needs.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone made a sort of anti-21 days learning site
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it never needs crappy code, but nobody thinks of everything, the first time every time
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: mandatory xkcd http://xkcd.com/844/
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Didn't Peter Norvig already cover that?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: It always can use better code but sometimes good is good enough even if good is crappy in a programmers view
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: yeah, that's where i saw it: http://norvig.com/21-days.html
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well I for one can't wait for the video game that Ashlynn develops to come out
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you develop software then you have pick 2 things of 3: good, fast (time to develop), cheap
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: how long does it take to master a programming language (one of the more complicated ones)
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: infinite
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ilushya seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm still at it 14 years later
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just consider it to be Go
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can learr a language pretty quick but to master it .....
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: You never master it, you either get cocky or keep learning
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vamp...seriously, go read the site that sotura posted
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i got "good" at Lua in 6 months.. but only because i was good at other languages before that
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Once you get comfortable writing in one language you can learn other similar ones easily.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i already knew how to write anonymous functions at that point
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vampfox Tech: im having an enjoyable conversation abe.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: Just don't mix up language and shiny bits (components) that are delivered with it. Those two are often different things.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: But you wanna learn programming then Vamp?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Any ideas why I see {invitem}733086394,,a war scroll,1,13,0,-1,-1 ? My inv tags are off. 
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, and there's a big difference between programming using straight g++, vs using CodeWarrior (metrowerks still around?), Apple's XCode, VisualC++, etc
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type invmon
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: llok tags
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: invmon
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: thanks! I think someone might have told me that earlier, but I thought they typod.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Okay so in re: the part on http://norvig.com/21-days.html that says, "a language that doesnt affect the way you think about programming not worth knowing..." what are some examples of the characteristics?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I see a bullet point that says "supports class/functional/syntactic/declarative abstractions, coroutines and parallelism..?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: I think the easiest way to tell if you have found that language is when you really have to think about how to decompose your problem space.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: For instance, I can (reasonably easy) decompose problems in an imperative fashion so it's not worth for me to learn more of those languages. However, a functional language like Haskell really forces me to look at the problem from a different angle.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushambo, the context of that quote is quite clear why the quote was included (and it's not his statement)
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: quite honestly i've found programming certain timing aspect of aard plugins amongst some of the most challenging code i've written..  timing issues abound!
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Right Abe, I was asking for feedback as regarding "ways you think about programming" ... I know a tiny bit of Python and that's it, hence I don't know what goes into "thinking"..
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: The first time you deal significantly with pointers.  The first time with recursion.  With first-class and higher-order functions.  With late binding.  With event-driven architecture.  With logic and declarative programming.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: And of course OO, but only if you're an insane masochist   :p
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't think in any context I could make the statement that I don't know what goes into thinking...
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: MUD client scripting is a nice obvious pertinent case of event driven programming, actually.  That's part of what makes it annoying...
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ilushya Tech: The thing I hate about scripting is that my code is all over the place, forced by the "ide" (client)
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: this looks like an interesting site to practice programming projects: projecteuler.net
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't like to practice programming. I always feel like it's a waste of time.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah the best way to learn programming is to try adn program something.. anything real
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: a DVD library tracker / a web page / a card game/ a plugin
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I used to on the TI-82 when I was like 12, but that's about it.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: well, i still think it's an interesting site
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: yeah, i like projecteuler... did a problem and then read the comments and saw how people answered it in haskell, assembly, lisp, python, ruby, c++, etc. This seems like a great resource for a beginning programmer... sorry to those who don't agree.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: why am i getting this error: Could not load eqdb(nil) because the file was not found
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: just updated bast's plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: other than trainers, healers, and shopkeepers, are there other ways to make a mob noncombatable (beyond the quite-obvious nokill flag)?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Acquire a pet?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I guess that might just be the nokill flag tho
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: anyone knows why i get this: {invitem}394680212,HKG,a Bag of Aardwolf,37,11,1,-1,-1 ?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Type 'invmon'
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: probably an inventory script, so i can i remove that option?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: thanks. will turning that off affect anything else?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Quite possibly.  However, if it isn't being gagged the plugin in question probably isn't working correctly.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: a lot of people have been complaining about that today...maybe a bast plugin broke?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I wish it was illegal for a website to automatically start streaming audio.
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Put that in your SOPA
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: yeah it sucks when it blares on and people are like wth..
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You'd think they'd notice the time spent on the page is directly related to when the ad starts playing
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: in an alias running to Execute, can you make it so that the first line is executed before the second line is sent?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Lady Elyce Tech: Is there a way to tell the mapper to not use a specific room or route for a specific goto command?
T3/r5/2012-01-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: with the aardwolf version of mushclient, is there a command to reset the size of the communication log?  
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: resetaard should do it
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry so late
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: anybody uses winklewinkle extender gui?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calandril Tech: I do
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i wonder if something is possible, click to attack
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm sure the gq bots would love that.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Probably been done.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: It's already been done
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: well i would like to do it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there a plugin or macro or something i can run on MUSH that will autofit my Chat,Input, Stats, and map plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what button to reset the plugins on MUSHCLIENT?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: to the defualt?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Resetsomething?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: resetaard?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thats the one :D
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thx
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Winkle, you dont have a script to fit all the plugins into one screen?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i could really use a script for that since i play aard on 3 different computers from dropbox.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: So i'm constantly having to manually resize all my plugins to fit my screen.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: set them up for the smallest screen
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: But then i have space when i play it on my bigger screen :(
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Mmm, I end up resizing and moving everything at least twice a day as I move from home to school. :)
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: There has to be a better way lol
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: is there a way to save the preferences for each setup?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: so i can just click and move everything in one shot?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: test
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, networklayer is screwing up tonight
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Any ideas why bast_spellup plugin says - You have not practiced 'cell potential', but it will be added anyway, it will not be cast until practiced
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: But I have cell potential at 85%
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: usually it's because it's trying to add the wrong one. use ' ' 
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: doublecheck if it didn't say it was adding anyway a DIFF spell
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: But I used the spell number not the word.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: oh, no idea then
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: try with the spell name ? 
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Doesn't make a difference. It's not recognizing that I have it practiced.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elan Tech: Have any alts you use the plugin for as well?  I ran into problems with that.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Odd, BSP is not recognizing any of my skills being practiced.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: anyone know why i keep having to turn invmon and bast's plugins keep turning it on?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i have to turn it off every lvl
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: invmon is needed for eq plugins
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cause bast's plugin is broken
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: but i have the eq plugin turned off
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: All of them?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: apparently not! :P
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Well there's one specifically for eq and then there are a few others that either rely on it or do something, but if you look carefully at their desc they also have the word eq in it.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I had to turn off 3 to get Madcatz sorter plugin to work properly.
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i c
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Any ideas on why bast's spellup plugin isn't registering my spells as being practiced?
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: It shows them as NP when I have them at 85%
T3/r5/2012-01-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: try to restart your client
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Alrigh,t need some help, flash drive is acting up. If I try to access a specifc file, explorer freezes. If I try to create a folder explorer also freezes. Now when I try to go to propertier and check for error, the error check goes away before doing anything. Any have any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Just format it.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Sounds like it got corrupted.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: So no way to get the file off it?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: What happens if you open it and just try to drag things off of it?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: It just freezes?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Works fine for every other file, then explorer just freezes when it tries to move the one file.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Well then that file is pretty much effed.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Opened fine when I first saved it, then I tried to make a folder, which caused explorer to freeze, and now trying to access the file causes it to freeze.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Most likely that file got corrupted - probably getting withdrawn while trying to be read.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: Not sure how that file being corrupted causes folder-creation to not work, and prevent me from running error check.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Well it's most likely your flash drive itself has bad sectors.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}My Name Is Shiruyumi Tech: That's what I was thinking.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: how do I get the address bar to open up on my browser?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Which browser are you using?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budfudder Tech: cmud
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: firefox
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: go to views
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: views/toolbar/
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: ysy got it
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: -=yay...
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: anybody use bast plugins?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Nope. Absolutely none of us.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicken & Waffles smirks.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: ok
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: was just a joke.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Lots of people use it. What do you need?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: Run-time error Plugin: miniwin_gq (called from world: Aardwolf) Immediate execution
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Bast's GQ plugin is stuck and won't show my mobs properly and it still now think I'm attempting to join a gq.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: restart mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Anyone ever done much with webgl?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: I think I may have played a game or two that used it...
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'm not quite sure that's the same thing ;) But thanks anyways :)
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: You're always welcome. ;)
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'm entirely too proud of my ability to draw lines atm. :P Which took me way longer than it should have.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: oddly enough I think playing with opengl in c++ was easier than trying to get webgl working with javascript. :P
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. an estonian minister was deleting questions and discussions from his public facebook wall. he later claimed that the posts disappeared because it "ran out of space"
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the questions were about ACTA, btw
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ACTA is a great big shaft up the EU's collective backside
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Also possible he has an overly helpful intern :P
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: dagnir, who was that?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vakieh, we (the eu) are the last ones who haven't signed it
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it was our minister of defence
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno why they asked him, but the can of worms is already opened
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: always funny when they try to manipulate and fail instantly:)
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, it started with local internet communities who posted questions which were removed. it got real when they deleted questions from actual journalists
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they haven't deleted anything now. even tho the main content now is mocking posts and image macros
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how do to use mapper portals
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how to use mapper portals
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper help
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: this i know,but i cant understand the meaning
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: mapper portal <command>
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: exactly
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: if you want to use dozens of portals you make alias for each one of them for wearing, entering, and removing the very thing. ie mapper portal Thisportalisforrecall which does get can bag, wear can, enter, wear item you were wearing, put can bag.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: which is mapper portal takemetorecall
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: u mean first make the alias,then to use
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Feihulong take a look at this site. It might help a bit http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: nod
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It seems you can only handle music and videos on your iOS 5 device from a single device at a time?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As in even if I select "Manually sync music and videos", I have to sync with the computer in question ANYWAY in order to do so.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because every time I connect my iPhone to a new device, the option "Manually sync music and videos" is unchecked and I can't do anything to the music and videos on my iPhone, nor can I transfer any new music or videos to it.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So... is there any way to make it possible to transfer music and videos to your iOS 5 device from multiple computers? 
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: yes jailbreak it
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: jailbreak 5.0.1 is ready
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: It is jailbroken.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I meant through iTunes itself. Using other programs is cumbersome.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So there's no way to do this without using third-party software?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: you need download to iphone or upload from iphone ?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Transfer TO the iPhone. I already know how to transfer things from the iPhone.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mavook Tech: use ssh and wget
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How cumbersome.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: i got this popup window when i tried opening mushclient, it says: "Cannot connect. World name not specified"
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lytebane Tech: Only thing I can think of is check in Global Preferences/Worlds, make sure there's a world specified, and check World Properties, make sure that there's a name specified in the IP address page
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: ok,i got a trigger that matches war info,can i get help with a script that will say if im in range?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you'll want to grab your leel from gmcp char data
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: level
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: OR grab it when you level fromt he text and save it in a variable
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: i know nothing about coding,got any ideas on where to start learning?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: google
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and looking at some of the scripts made by others
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: avoid gmcp for now then.. try and write a trigger that'll capture your level when hen you level
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: okay,then can i get help with capturing extra flags,like WARFARE: This war is not available to tiers!
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: im on mush
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: The aardwolf mush client, or just mush?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: aarwolf one
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I am looking for something that will record the amount of experience I receive from a mob and divide it by the time spent killing the mob, to give me how much experience I received per minute or second.  Is this do-able?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Dresory: yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: i saw a plugin like that
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: something out there already?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ask Vaki when next you see him, he has something like that 
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I know that there are reporting plugins, dunno how granular they get.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: yes,as a time to level...
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Okay cool thanks for the info!
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: try http://gammon.com.au/forum/?id=8777
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Ah, perfect =D thank you.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: just read there,its the second post,didnt check it myself yet
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: It looks along the lines of what I needed, so if anything, I can just play around with it.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Thanks again
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: at least you know whats going on
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: now how do multiline triggers work
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: got my level up trigger
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: can anyone help me with a small piece of code
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lang apocolyte?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: any lang,want to try and capture 3 messages by Q_mob Q_area Q_room and kick it out as one to the channel of my choice
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Dunno, could javascript do that? Just set 3 variables, and use triggers to set em
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: then output to the channel of your choice.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: if i'm understanding correctly what it is you want..
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: how?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oh.. you want me to write the code?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: show a example?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm kidna busy lol
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Your probably better off asking one of the Lua programmers here anyways. My knowledge is very limited :S
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I know how I would approach it, but i've never done it.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: if you're using mushclient finger bast, he has a bunch of plugins, one of which is a quest mini window that does what you are looking for
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: if you're not using mush client still finger bast and find the quest miniwindow plugin and you should be able to look at the code there
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: thats to a window,want it to a channel
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Either or, Poor Bast is getting fingered.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: You want it to output to Gtell. For example?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: yep
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm, can a trigger set off an alias?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: set as execute
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Yup, just need 3 variables then buddy. Do a multi-line trigger. Have it output the 3 variables.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: okay,mind stating what to trigger on?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Use the Quest message itself.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: or whenever you want it to show.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I don't know if its the way you work, but just slap it together and then figure out what its going to trigger on later :D
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I waste a lot of effort doing it my way tho :P
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: back
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: how would i trigger it?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: You want it to show the quest stuff?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: trigger it when you request the quest.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: any line from his quest.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: He'll tell you all the info in one small paragraph, grab it all then. Trigger it all on that same paragraph.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: but what must it look like after regexp and variables
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: no idea buddy.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: thats the problem,cant get that piece right
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: without that,its useless
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm pretty sure gammon has a quest text scraping plugin example on his site
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have an example on that uses gmcp on mine
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Winklewinkle is one of the guys that is amazing at this stuff. I'm a newbie.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: I use Madcatz container_sort plugin but it hangs up. I cannot lput, lget or sort all my stuff in a bag without it running in an endless loop. I saw some instances where put or get gets 3 indices, the itemnumber, and the container twice. Is there anyone here who had a similar experience?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Yes. It is conflicting w/ bast's plugin.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: make sure prompt are off
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: YOu need to disable 3 of bast's eq plugins to get it to work nicely. If not madcatz plugin will hang and invariably crash.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: the difference since before is just some BAST plugins that I installed afterwards. can that screw up an other plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: ah
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i wonder if the triggers that capture data on basts were flagged as "continue processing" whether it would crash
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: but can I then still run basts gainmonitor?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: You can run all of bast's plugins except the ones that say eq next to it through the plugin manger. (Which is what I was told by someone else and also worked for me). The two other plugins rely on that one so that can cause hang ups too (something like that).
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Initially I was only disabling 1 and it was still crashing for me.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OneManArmy Jerome Tech: thanks that bast eq thingy was the cause indeed
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chicken & Waffles beams with pride.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: they press power, power light comes on, CD light comes on, fan comes on, no monitor response, and when they plug into USB with a mouse no lights on there. They have done the press power with battery out reset, tried with and without battery in, and have reseated RAM
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: anyone? Next thing I am going to try is the CMOS battery, but after that is it safe to assume system board damage?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: Hey, anyone on here know the android app/blowtorch for newbie help?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: hi all
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Sup.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: im back with no plugins, triggers and aliases.  can someone point me to the best spellup plugin for mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Spellup learned.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: bast, finger bast
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: (chuckle)
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or mine
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budfudder Tech: how do you get rid of windows in Muschclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Poor Bast, always getting fingered.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @Budfudder: File>>Plugins>>Disable the one you want gone.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budfudder Tech: thanks Vadar
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: @Budfudder: Or Delete it even if your that passionate about not using it lol
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budfudder Tech: in Mushclient, what's "TNL"? It's one of the displays at the bottom, with Health and Mana and Moves
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlaloc Tech: 'til next level
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budfudder Tech: ah, thanks Tlaloc
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: TNL is described in 'help tnl'
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: lol, an hour and a half later
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can't help when people ask questions
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I like your logic, Fiendish.  It's their fault for asking at the wrong time.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: resetaard
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: check the help files
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: restart mush
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'm answering the questions before they are asked
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: LOL
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Touche!
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Type checkversion, what does it say?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beakerboy Tech: I'm sad.  there is no help resetaard.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: when did the mushclient get a new update?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thought i just did that lol
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: r1582 came out 3 days ago
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thats why i got the notice then 
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: it told me 1583 is available now...
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: whats the update about?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have no clue
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: is there a way to make the nuber pad open doors while using it, say like hit shift+6 would open e
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: help alias
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes.  I put  mine under ctrl+numpad.  Assuming we are talking Mushclient just click the box "Ctrl"
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thanks
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Shift+ctrl+1 to bring up the keypad box, there is the ctrl checkbox on that screen.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you're using the mapper, I suppose you could look up the exit data to see if a door is there.  If so, have it automatically send the open command.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: anyone here uses the Seagate NAS?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: any windows gurus here to enlighten the masses?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I say ask away - maybe you don't need a guru, just a good googler!?!?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: no I'm curious why when a task spawns a daughter window why I am no longer able to move the original window besides bill gates said this would never be allowed :P
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bill gates said modal windows aren't allowed anymore?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I don't understand the logic behind why they're not able to be moved. I was hoping someone might be able to say why this was the case beyond God said it.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: which window are we talking about again?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Anyways - pretty sure that is a program specific thing, a desicion made by the person who made the program.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: when a process spawns a new window, be it windows explorer or another task that inital window becomes non modify for location or size. I was hoping that there was a reason :P
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's because that spawned window has the modal flag set.  This means the user has to do something to get rid of that window before control resumes elsewhere.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Exactly - it's certainly possible to spawn a new window and not have it be modal.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It something the designer of the program does.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But I'm with you - used too much by programmers.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: It is *stupid* for the default by the os to be that it can't be moved.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not set at the os level.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's not the default.  It's set by the programmer.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: thanks for at least telling my what's going on and that its a lazy programmer.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But yeah I hate it that Outlook does it when i use Send in word to try to attach a document.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not really lazy, just making stupid design decisions.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what kind of window is it, by the way?  Some windows are actually designed to be that way for good reason.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Like settings windows or dialog boxes that need a response.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I don't see why blocking windows explorer in a semi trivial task of copying files would require it.
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: CMUD question :  I haven't changed any of my scripts/coding for awhile and am suddenly experiencing random crashes.  The program will simply freeze up, happens once or twice a day.  Any easy way to narrow down the problem?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lautomne Tech: hey yall, i am using zmud 7.21 and recently instead of showing the channel it shows a tag as well, i.e. {chan ch=newbie}[Newbie] as opposed to [Newbie], any ideas?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: tinyfuguers?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: watch your language
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: lol i was thinking the same thing
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: how to put two commands inside a repeat?
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: i guess i got it... define the two command macro separately and just repeat that
T3/r5/2012-01-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: thanks for the moment of silence... it helped me a lot
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: when I walk into a roomfull of agro mobs, and try to ca flamestrike or whatever, it won't even register until there's a space in the spam....how to fix this?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: space in the spam?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Telnet?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: cmud
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: like when the IMM is in recall and everyone is fighting her, I cant even leave tghe room until they're done :OP
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You might want to read help spamreduce
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'd suggest turning off battlespam for one.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: damage 1 also wouldn't hurt.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You're probably causing your buffer to overload with all that information
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: turn off battlespam
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: I'm not causing anything...I just think cmud is buggy
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's still 'reading' the spam when you're trying to input something else and it has to 'catch up' of sorts.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: I won't be able to do the nix goal til I hero I guess
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Zugg software, buggy? no! </sarvcasm>
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwynyfar licks Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: <3 cheeseburgers :P
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: you get the idea, despite my inability to spell sarcasm
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: yup :)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: smile cheezeburger
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Mushclient has become pretty popular on aard, i'd suggest giving that a try. Very user friendly
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: you just made me hungry :P
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: I <3 zmud...not so much cmud
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budfudder Tech: anyone know why sounds might not work in my MUSHclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budfudder Tech: anyone know much about Mushclient?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how make a new macro in mushclient
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: ([:{: ]#~ (=|.&.>)) <:"0 /:~(0:-.~[:,>:/**/)~(i.100)-.~i.1000
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: guys anyone experienced a problem with mush when a bar with hp mana etc and it just turned black
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i can drag it , but it's just black cant see my hps or whatever
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and restarting mush didn't fix it?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: i try now
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Covenant Tech: it worked :)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I have that problem often. Restarting always helped.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwynyfar Tech: any webpage master builders on here?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: quick question...friggin main screen went semi-full screen..there an easy way to get that back to a small square
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Betrayal Tech: in mush
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is there anyway to get the mapper to list all the known rooms in the current area?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: mapper area but it works only if you have changed the amount it reports up from 50
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Why would you want to show all the rooms?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: correct command would be then "mapper area " (notice the space after area)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, now that I hadn't thought of -- I've been doing mapper area e
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: thank you very much
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Is there any way to escape an alias in MUSHclient at the command line?  (I'm trying to use the kingsholm "next" command for the maze and it's triggering an alias.)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: in my plugin?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Yes.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: for now use a space before next..
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i'll see if i can put a fix out today.. a new plugin.. check the tech board for updates
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Thanks!
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: anyone here write mush scripts??
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: willing to pay tps...
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: what do you want to know
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I just want something wrote...
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: if you are interested I'm paying 5 tps for it
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: maybe more
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: written
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ringo if you are talking about that BS pluging.. i'll do it this weekend for that price
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: what joystick do you suggest to play aard?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: quickshot pro
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: The red one
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Joystick?!
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: madcatz joystick
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: My thoughts exactly.. how would you play with a joystick?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and why?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, I only have the one...
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: surely the keypad would be easier ?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i agree..
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i play just a fingle foot pedal
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Use the one from Steel Battalion.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ^single
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: heh. i cant get rid of the joystick thought:)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: might as well play on a calculator.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I think if you can find a joystick with a full keyboard I'd use that!
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i guess it could work, for lasertag type stuff
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: dunno about much else though
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: How though?  You still need a keyboard to target?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Absent a bot.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: voice com :)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: rofl, send shoot a-z
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: voice can go wrong
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar D
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: They could move before you got to E
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thurgood Tech: Can't wait to say 'cast blast zombie' 500x times in a row.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tzadkiel screams East ! East ! Bash Orc! at her puter
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: BUT... to be hardcore enough for voicecom, you need a patented WoW empty 2 liter for bios
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: actually I think EQ patented that :p
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: i dream of aardmud projected to my ceiling and i have only one little controller.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: it also would be cool to do speedwalking with a force feedback wheel:)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Speedwalking on a treadmill with buttons
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: or on of those floorpads they use for dancing games =P
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: if someone would do that kind of video, im sure it attracts tens of viewers!
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: , show a hint of boob and suddenlt X that by 1000 ... 
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: yeah, a lot of potentially good vids are just missing a boob
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol, imagine going 10S,10w,10e on something like that?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: would be like tapdancing , 10 n . . .
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: A lot of bouncing lol
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: why stop there.. connect the aardmud commands to a hardcore gym..um machines 
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: OMG I"D BE RIPPED
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: if you die in the mud... you die in the gym...
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: just remember, this is what they were talking about at the wii offices
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ROFL! every point of damage is a pound you have to lift!
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: if sitting on lvl 1 or 201 too much you'll die because of dehydration
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm, thats a good idea. Ima do a pushup for every qp i get as i quest
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I was msing a few days ago about hooking up farmville players to real hydro gardens , accessed remotely .. could feed a few ppl like that I think .. 
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Or just set in some timers?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hook up farmville to a guy who comes out of your monitor, punches you, and screams "NO! You will NOT play Farmville!"
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: snap i'm about to start :D
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I would hope your common sense would do that first , but if you are a moron you may as well grow real carrots ... 
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah good thing we play a game that has such tanglible results.. those stupid farmville suckers!
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: hwe kill things , That makes us men !
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: or girls .. 
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ok I'm confused now 
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: at least we're all working towards that $1000 you get when you reach T9
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that's something
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I have to do 16 pushups!! whoo
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: wut?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: pushups?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: puchups are very tech talk
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: tapdancing =P
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bull & Jam Arystul Tech: who was it that had a almost complete map of aardwolf for mush? I just had to restore my computer so lost all of it :(
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I know first world problems and all, but anyone know why sometimes when AardMushclient starts up the toolbars at the top are stacked 3 rows instead of next to each other on one row?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 10 tps to whoever can write me a quest bot so that I can do these quests while sleeping on the job and whatnot
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 15 if you can make it talk to Lasher and convince him that I'm legit.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just don't make it too polite or he won't be fooled.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Sec, let me cut and paste :P
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: lol
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Cheezburger, given your track record you are NOT hired
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: http://www.getalifeimfullofit.com
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: some people will do it for less than 10 tps just to see you nuked when its discovered :)
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger wonders if that site really exists.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Firefox can't find the server at www.getalifeimfullofit.com.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza grins evilly.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: really just need S&D, and a trigger that quest request, xcp 1, ak, home, quest com, on quest ready
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hell, I'm sure somebody would do it for free if it meant getting rid of me for good
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'd prefer the tps
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: be original and ad a tick or 2 of waiting
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The nukage would just be bonus fodder :P
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Will Win8 be a hit?
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: probly not inmo
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: every other OS that MS brings out usually bombs
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think it will take about 2 or 3 upgrades to work out the bugs for Win8.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the only feature it hink ill like is the touchscreen interface
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It will be interesting since Win8 will be competing against Apple and Driod.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i think that ppl will like it cause of all the touchy stuff we have now
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: yeah win8 might be decent on the tablet
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but as a desktop os...
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: i have a touch monitor, my kids will love it
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: ill just get sick of cleaning it
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I see Win 8 only as an Os for smart phones, as for computers, it's not going to do very well.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: number 2, I don't like the layout of Win 8 either.
T3/r5/2012-01-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: and before you ask, yes I did some beta testing of it.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lefer Tech: who knows what the details are for aardwolf to go on BB SSH Client via blackberry?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: host:aardmud.org port:4000 conn type:telnet user/pass blank key:none
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: thats my current settings. it works
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lefer Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: connection type bis-b
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lefer Tech: if i go on with that connection do i have to use my old player or can i make a new playe?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: up to you
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lefer Tech: cool thanks
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Is there a way to delete all my cexits from a zone? 
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Mapper help only specifies for room or all.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: gmcp
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: what is the full name gmcp
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: estos use 24h clock times
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Estonians? East Scandinavian Turtle Operatives? The suspense is killing me!
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: good. that's how we roll
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't GCMP really ATCP2?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Generic Mud Communication Protocol, though yeah, it is - a simple help gmcp gives you the link, however :-P
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wonder why electric bikes are so insanely expensive
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the batteries, probably
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: might have to try making one :-)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've been looking into chinese manufacturers. they're not that expensive if you buy 10+
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: couple of lead-acid motorcycle batteries shoudl do
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: till you crash
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lithium polymer batteries, bleh
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would i crash?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: everybody  crashes
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The joys of crashing into women by "accident".
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: biggest problem is the short range, it seems
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: 20 miles on a bike is a bit of a range.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: biggest problem is weight -- never saw the point myself
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 20 miles wouldn't get me to work
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts, 20 miles is a good range for the size of the battery on the bike.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hence why they need a bigger battery :-)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: why not get a light roadie bike -- 20 miles is not that far? how far is work.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the better range bikes have 36V 14A li-poly
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://optibike.com/r-series-optibike
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're pricing and legislating motor vehicles off the road here
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is one with a 85 mi range.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts: To be honest, that is going to be happening all over the world in time.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well that bike isn't legal here, and is too much money in the first place
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lovely bit of kit by the looks
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Tigernuts: Which country?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: UK
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: how far is the commute?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 28 miles each way
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and the road conditions?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ok
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mostly flat
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: traffic is the key issue on a bike
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's always traffic, it's the UK
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes, I know, but central London comute, Manchester comute, Edinburgh commute are all diffn things
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Where I live, they do not have laws about "electric bikes" since it does not have a transmission or have a cylinder engine.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so really the battery tech still hasn't caught up
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: restricted to 15mph here
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is a stupidly low limit, peddle bikes go faster than that
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: that's for an electric bike -- you can use an electric moped -- these go further, faster although you need your license and CBT
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i may have to hand in my license next year if the police get their way
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: then my advice -- buy a road bike and a trainer
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i take a variety of pain meds that they're planning on making illegal to drive with
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah, that my contrindicate long pedalling sessions then
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yeah, well everything in the UK is geared towards inspiring people to tell the government to fuck off and live off the state instead
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: do we have a state left?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't go there
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The world has been overrun by progressives and socialism. lol
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anytime MUSH closes incorrectly (like a the power goes out) I lose any changes I made to aliases, triggers, etc.  Is there a way to force a save while the program is open?  or can this only happend when the program is shut down correctly?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: save world
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: ctrl+s
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: just type that in the command line?  or through a menu?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where does every program put its "save" command? ;-)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: okoie dokie.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: or go to File>Save World Details
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that work for all my plugins too?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's the same place on both Mac and Winderz, so even that's not an excuse to not try looking there }:>
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: it will save everything you've done on Mush since the last time you saved
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i knoe Abe, I just wouldn't have said it that way so I was momentaily confused.  :)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i live mush open for days and days.. and it bit me in the ass yesterady.  came home from school/work and my computer had rebooted itself (power flicker) and I lost a LOT of changes.  including plugin stuff.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: live = leave
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: yeah, i know what you mean, anytime i change anything i hit CTRL+S really quick
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I save my scripts if I change even a single character
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: Is there anyone online who is good with creating aliases for mushclient?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: erm. "good at"
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: you may want to elaborate for a response
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: Im trying to make a portal alias that automatically re-equips my offhand
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: so far I've just been chaning the name of the weapon
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: but im trying to get one that does that by itself
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: I had one a long time ago in zmud but I cant for the life of me figure out how i did it
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: variables were simpler in zmud
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: i can probably do one in zmud
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: could try a trigger...
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: alias what you usually do to dual weap to also set a variable at the same time
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: make a trigger to set the variable and then using that in the alias?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: it would work but it feels more like a workaround
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deathruler Apocolyte Tech: okay,didnt think of that:P
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: how do you unlock your windows so you can adjust them in mush?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout unlock
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah...I never found a good way to make that more discoverable
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right click option on the main game window?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: main window alt menu is kind of hard to get into
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: fiendish we need more window based plugins
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably not true
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe more non-window-based plugins
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i just go a new thunderbolt monitor and now i have alot of realestate to use, and nothing to fill it with
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: can you modify the main mushclient menu?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm going to add Cizra's note mode thing
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in a modified form
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: myrkul: I don't think so
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least not from a plugin
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can add modifier-key menus. ctrl+left_click for example does copy with colors
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so I know there are a few Lion/IOS users on here
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know of a way to push notifications to lion from iphone?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: in theory would like to text from computer - but id be happy with notifications for now
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3193837?start=0&tstart=0
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I want to go the other way from phone to mac
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have prowl for mac to phone
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: does anyone have recommendations or opinions on SDKs for modifying PDFs? (primarily concerned with security and metadata; any language though C languages preferred)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Has anyone updated iwuvaard.org in the last year?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: getting an error in winkles script, Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: anyone had that?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone using cmud have problems with alarms firing a minute early, then again when they're supposed to fire?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: why does my mapper give me errors on 50% of the rooms i try to find if it finds a match?  Run-time error function/sub: map_find called by alias reason: processing alias "" near "Hiding": etc
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: oh well :(
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: were you using standard mapper find, or some mapper helping command?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (lua) is there a way to display really small numbers normally, instead of in scientific notation?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if anyone cares, you can do it with string.format :)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: getting an error msg in mush with winkles triple pack, "Trigger function "xcp_index_line" not found or had a previous error" amyone heard of it?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload mapper_extender_2
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: didnt help :-/
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: such a weird problem
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, reloading it should have re-enabled the function, which should have given a better error on first crap-out
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: does restarting mush solve it?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: no winkle, ive tried that :S
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was probably a campaign mob with funky characters in its name
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: problem started after updated mush, but I followed the guide perfectly
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: and it worked fine the first 10 mins or so
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: type "cp i" and send me a link to a pastebin.com link of it
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: also.. when before you  do
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: error happens when i type xp
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: xcp 
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: also enable debugging type "sd debug" and "ext debug"
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it'll help me work out what is killing it
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ahhh ok.. this is a craqsh caused by an obsolete line of code in an older version i think .. edit the file WinkleWinkle_Mapper_Extender_2_6 in a text editor (not word) and delete the line "local diff = lastRoomId - row.room"
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: should I remove it from mush, edit, and install it again?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: tech and then reload it.. you should neer see it again..
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: I am putting out a new public version as soon as i can..
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: thanks winkle, ill try it :D
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: that'll fix this and kingsholm's "next" problem.. adn add [PK] flags to room searches
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: ok.. gotta go pick up dinner :)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crnogorac Tech: oh that helped, I love you winkle
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: anyone here use  telnet on mobile to connect
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: I use Andromud
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: for mobile zarra?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: For android phones yes
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: there's another one for iphone
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: imo it's better to use a telnet/ssh app to connect to a computer running a full client rather than use phone-based mud clients
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: any for blackberry?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 benefits to it: (1) only making your settings once, (2) there aren't ANY phone-based MUD clients which even approach being full-featured
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, there's a few for bb...bbssh is one
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: except bbssh and midpssh
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: some people don't have that luxury...I didn't have a computer when I discovered Aard :)
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everyone has the luxury...I didn't say connect to your home computer...
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: anything else except bbssh?
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mentioned midpssh already...also rove ssh
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Tech: thnx if ya know any else dont hesitate to send me a tell:p
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: padersyncssh is yet another, one called telnet ssh
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats command to change broadcast channel for bast
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Holliday: "statmn set" and then set the variables for the various events to the channel you want
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: anyone using mushclient here? how do i launch and open the second mapper window on my mush? i accidentally closed it
T3/r6/2012-01-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You mean the GMCP mapper?  Try 'mapper show'
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: any advice on good notebook brans? was looking at sager, msi and asus. any others to be considering?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: don't buy asus. ever. under any conditions
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: why is that
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Love my Asus.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: and if find a really really good asus product, at a really good deal, read my previous message
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: my asus m50sv was pretty good
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: asus has the worst customer support in the world. if the equipment is ok, it's good. if it's not, poor you
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: they completely ignore customer care
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i've had about 20 laptops in my life, will never get a asus again
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i buy laptops all the time for people working under me
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: hmm i had quite opposite experience with them. i needed customer support once they paid to have me ship it to them around 6pm on a thursday and i ggot it back on 7pm the next day fixed and all
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: *shrug*
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Hmm, best laptop I've ever bought is this one, Asus UL80vt.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: 14
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: so what happ with u stomp and if not asus what brand do u suggest?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i've had problems with 2 of their machines. one was a asus lamborghini, it's a 3k $ machine
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: dell
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: toshiba
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: yea i know the one
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: several are good
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: ugh really.. i would never buy a dell. toshibas are pretty cheap too
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: my asus is OK, but the lenovo beats the pants off of it
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hp beats all.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Don't know about high end, I shop at medium to low, student (but not absolute budget) range.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: a top of the brand toshiba runs you 2.4k$
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: depends which grade you buy laptops on... i buy the most expensive machine available each time
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well just mean the craft of them are cheap imo
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: so don't hear my opinion if you're getting a cheap machine
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Dunno how that compares, I'm shopping in AUD here, and locally, so probably a bit of markup compared to you guys.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: toshiba's not too bad, but they made getting a replacement part a pita
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: not the top models
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I run a ASUS K53S and no problems , yet , was a gift though 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: nah im looking to spend upto 2k i think
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Toshiba has been awesome to me
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Toshibas were my oher choice, but out of my range.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: maybe more if its worth it otherwise ill do customizations further on my own
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: for similar specs, that is.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: 6 months after i got my laptop the harddrive crashed and i sent it in got it back in 3 days flat
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: toshiba r7 model, the 13.3 ultralight with ssd, is fantastic
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: bought one for wife recently
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: the cheaper toshibas have horrible build quality
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i will want a bigger screen then 13.3
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: at a minimum 15.6 but i like my 17.3 that i haave
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: next step is 15.6".. nothing decent in between 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: 14" asus ul80vt, also ultralight with ULV processor (gives me literally hours of battery - about 3 hours solid, 8 hours standby, iirc), switchable discreet graphics.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: think thats what i got my mom, but don't think its enough for what i want to be ddoing with my pc
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: What's the primary use?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i want the mobility of a notebook, but i may need to go with a desktop cause i want banging quality
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well gaming and internet
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Ah, gaming rig. That's outta my knowledge. A friend swears on Alienware, but I suspect he's bitten by the hype more than anything.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: was also looking at doing a killer
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: alienware is way overpriced for what you get
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: That's what I thought.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Prices are incredible now - if you can build your own computer.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it is quality but you spend 500 dollars on the name
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: i5 /i7 are SUPER cheap and way more than enough.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: And a shiny shell.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian nods.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: just get an i5 and make sure it doesnt have intel graphics
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: yea... alienware is a rip i could get something else and upgrade on my own to get to the same thing for way less or just buy a diff brand
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: never underestimate the power of the "shiny"...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: no idea what the prices are like there, if comparable, i doubt you're gonna get a gaming quality rig at sb 2k though, nothing too portable anyway. 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I used of those "have us build a custom system for you" sites to ebdure everything i wanted was compatible, then bought and built i
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: t myself
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: well if you're going to game def get a vid card for the price now you can get amazing graphics compared to 2 - 3 years ago.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: sorry, on the phone.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: to be honest - i have known many people to be very impressed with the Microsoft Signature Laptops at the Microsoft store
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Sorry Salv that's incredibly wrong.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I built an incredible gaming rig for 1.5k 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: not very customizable, but decent prices and good preset builds
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: like i said, don't know how prices compare there.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I'd say for the average gamer they would be more than happy w/ 700 machine.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: no way you're gonna get a laptop powerful enough sub2k here.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Laptops for gaming are kind of pointless at the price point. 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: at about the 2k mark, you probably just getting into the tolerable range.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: If you need a laptop then get one. 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: unless you travel a lot
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: ... the questoin WAS about laptops :P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i'm out of town 2-4 weeks at a time, a gaming laptop was the only option :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: gaming on laptops is fine, this isn't 10 years ago
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I'm talking about the price points.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: starcraft and aardwolf, what else do you need?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well send me notes with any suggestions. my boys just got back from their adult film convention going to see how it went
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Diablo 3
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: a laptop isn't much more expensive than a desktop these days
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian rapidly nods twice at Doc Holliday, in complete agreement.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: we will have it next month
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: im playing SWTOR
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: That's only if you buy them premade Mokg.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Adult film convention... right,
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: well, it is much more expensive, but worth it
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I think realistically you have to figure out exactly what you want to do and then it's much easier to narrow it down.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Agreed. And what features are important to you.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: There are alot of things - do you care about battery life...do you care about size - do you care about looks.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and don't forget about durability.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: I went with battery life and portability, hence the asus, at 14", and with the ULV chip, nothing on the market at that time came near it, not at the 1-1.2k price point anyway.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I know people poopoo alienware, but they had a good deal on their 13" gaming laptop last month.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: and still gives me decent enough oomph to play most games up to 2009ish, and newer games at reduced quality.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas likes end of season clearances...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a cptracker script
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: id like to track time and total rewards
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: finger bast
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: which one is it, i have his scripts installed just not all active
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: cp tracker 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: stats
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i like the campaignxp option - but does it auto do it each level or just the level you type it
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SirOmega Tech: So, trying to turn off the chats in the main window, and after using chats echo off, the newbie channel still echos in the main window.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right-click on the log window for options
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: look under the "Echo Channels..." submenu
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodrange Tech: hello,I've lost my appworld account and I can't use my appworld anymore it says I need to update it any help?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodrange Tech: hello?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Probably best to contac them by email?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodrange Tech: most of my bbm contact have the same problem and when it asks me to update it I click on option yes then it says contacting blackberry server 8003 and it fails
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodrange Tech: what a useless channel
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Have you ever heard of google?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloodrange Tech: yeah and I've tried typing in how to fix appworld
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: How about emailing them like I offered you? You just ignored it.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Did you try to insert the error message?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: what must i search on wikipedia for the map?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/area/area#K
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thordan Tech: thanks
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: how do you runto a room on your mapper if you know the room number?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: in mush
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: mapper goto #
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: thanks bud
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: als (mapper help)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: also*
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: is there a command to remove all cexits from the current area?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though you can list all the cexits in the current area (and subsequently travel to them to delete them) or purge the whole area
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: I have been unclear on that. Which mapper command clears the cexits from an area?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can only delete cexits from a single room or delete all cexits from everywhere, but not all from a whole area
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: both available removal commands are listed in 'mapper help' under "===== CUSTOM EXIT ACTIONS =======>"
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Right. I have hestitated to use mapper purge cexits, because the scope is unclear in the help. It affects the current area only?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it affects ALL CEXITS just as it says
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: from the whole database
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Righty-o, got it.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: what's the command to not display room description for rooms which are explored?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: help brief
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siko Tech: thanks :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does anyone know why mush would be freezing up the second i connect?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i used to get errors from spellups miniwin when i started but could fix it by just reloading the plugin but now i can't even open mush
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: edit your Aardwolf.mcl file and remove all plugins except ones that came with the client.  after that load other plugins one by one and restart mushclient until you find tue culprit
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: k
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: can just edit with notepad? or do i need something more esoteric
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: notepad works or notepad+ is nice.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: do you know how long it freezes for? 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cordelia Tech: so i got my kid an android tablet for christmas. he wants to print a page, and we can't figure out how. anyone know anything about these things? :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is not android kind of linux? so you need probably cups
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cordelia Tech: what's cups?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: they're things that you put drinks in, duh
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can also download and install PrinterShare from Android marketplace (found on google)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cups stands for Common Unix Printing System
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: 2 servers 1 CUPS
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cordelia Tech: thanks printershare worked
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: "Old" media companies spent huge sums of money in support of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA). Those opposed -- Internet and "new media" companies -- lobbied hard and spent gobs too, though far less than their more organized rivals. (CNN MONEY)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Turie Sopa was stopped, the people have spoken.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: for now....wait for the next one :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: another act to stop is ACTA.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: reading an article on cnn money about online anything is like reading a book written by a giant purple dinosaur covering quantum physics
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: they are as dumb as a box of rocks
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: ooh, where do you get that book?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: companies are just gonna keep pushing for other acts like that, and it's just a matter of time
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: doesn't matter really
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the internet as a whole is smarter than a few pinheads in government
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Rusk we are expecting the next one, dumber then these one.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: very soon you will likely not see any more sites like megaupload or rapidshare
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: any law or enforcement that they can come up, can be gotten around
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: and it will do absolutely nothing to stop piracy
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: it will do a lot to decrease it. not to stop it
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I'm skeptical that it will even cause a reasonable reduction
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it'll decrease the piracy that doesn't matter, the stuff where folks pirate to test the product before buying.  other than that
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: most people nowadays don't know how to use torrents or directconnect, and are purely used to those sites
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: companies have interest in piracy - first promote their software (easy to be pirated) then force users to buy
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: it will decrease porn sharing, i guess :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: stomp, only for a couple years tops
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: lets see :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: the net is highly resilient
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: to stop the piracy?  Don't have 30 dollar tickets or 25 euro tickets to see a darn poo bad movie in a very cold theather, I have actually taken a sleeping bag or blanket into theathers.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: nobody is talking about the net ending. But piracy in its current form is damaging
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Sadly, most of the "Music/Film" Industry has made millions already on their product, but do not want to lose those residuals.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: stomp, there are studies that show that really isn't the case most of the time
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i agree saatai. the major problem are stupid prices on company profits
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: tell me one, wyza
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: There are several showing a correlation between increased piracy and increased sales
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: regardless, creating laws purely to protect corporate interests and then forcing them on the entire world, is insane
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i don't particularly like it, but you have to try to look at the other side... I know personally authors of books and music and heard their side versus my own. And big names haven't gotten hurt, nor have too small initiatives that wouldn't have been even known without massive sharing, but mid-range PI has suffered a lot
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: tech http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111201/03191216939/yet-another-study-shows-that-hollywoods-own-bad-decisions-are-increasing-amount-infringement.shtml
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: well, that's what PI laws are for, and they have been around for decades
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: people are just realizing they are hard to enforce online
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: then Averan you need to look into the Acta act right now, Sopa was just a child to it.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I'm not American
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: acta is a global law
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: ACTA's a global trade agreement.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: neither am I.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: PI laws are worldwide. you need to read up more
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: acta is rediculously dangerous
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: acta was signed already by EU
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: it makes things like SOPA look like a popgun in comparison
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: what people don't realize is that the danger aren't the laws against piracy, but the ones that allow gov to track you, read your email, etc, which some of these acts have hidden within
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: if you're not breaking any laws you should have no problem with the government being able to examine your hard drive and read your email.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: yes it does Wyza
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: all this anti-controls sentiment just encourages terrorism imho.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: I do, razor, a lot
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gregor Tech: They will find all my LARP porn =(
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: opensource aard!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: i dont...as long as they pay me for the privalege at $100/hour for the use of my resources
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You run away in terror and horror!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: So Razor your saying I can view your hard drive anytime I like?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i'd rather not be able to download any illegal content off the web if the gov wasn't able to snoop on me
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: razor: not sure if serious
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: razor you assume that the government can be trusted to not misuse the information they gather on you
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Also, the EU parliament still needs to vote to ratify it, which will happen in June.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: So, Europeans, contact your MEPs and educate them.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Help satire
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and most governments have a REALLY bad track record in that area
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fnord grin mendaloth
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I want the contents of your hard drive right now.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: tech help Poe's Law
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: the gov can never be trusted. it is worse by many orders of magnitude than any individual, no matter how evil that individual is
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: history for thousands of years have shown there is nothing as corrupt as most govs
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: and we only know the bare surface of it
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I mean what's the worst that can happen? Just because super top secret government communication finds its way onto wiki leaks, they'll do a far better job of protecting *your* private info.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: except for industry?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: y'all just need to have a little faith.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: gov corruption trumps industry any day of the week
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: rofl
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: faith in govt?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i bet razor is american
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: sorry, i meant another brainwashed american :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Um...Razor please explain said statement?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: american's are pretty good satirists
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: i'm american, i'm just not dumb enough to believe the govt is anything but 100% corrupt
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp claps at None the Wyza's performance.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's born & raised Brit...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: do they brainwash brits too?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc was born and raised PA Dutch.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turie can't read fingers correctly :P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yeah scrapple
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: yes wyza...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: This is pretty far off of Tech 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: brainwashing is based upon jesuit concepts. starts at 5 or younger
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: My orginal mother was Brit, My orginal father Russian, what does that have to do with the price of tea in china, when we are being stepped upon?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: I declare Stomp american under the "wouldn't recognize sarcasm even when beaten over the head with it" category.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jesuits invented brainwashing?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: should we move to another channel?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp beams a smile at Ironfist Razor.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: None the Wyza nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: apparently
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: nah. but they had a saying that if they had them before 5, they had them for life
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: that can be said of most religious groups rusk
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: or nazi
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they got that from Unleashed :P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I want to hear your answers.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: So, does that mean the Republicans are Nazis and the Democrats are Communist?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: nope, they are all just greedy rich bastards
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: pretty sure if they could find a way to sell us all into 3rd world slavery they would
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: if you not think governments are not corrupt, I have lots of land and bridges to sell you.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: be safer distinction to call republicans blinkered and democrats morons
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342258/quotes?qt=qt0271939
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wyza: You sure they have not yet?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: no, we are 1st world slaves
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: we are faaaaarrrr too comfy to be 3rd world
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp grins evilly at None the Wyza.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: there's only one world anyway
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc sings "We are the world, We are the children"
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, we're not
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rechy Arxe Tech: were, the world and were the children, for some cases
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc is Michael Jackson Jr.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Blanket Jackson
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: by definition, the Democrats are largely embracing a socialist agenda, with the only real difference in degree being that good/moderate democrats don't yet support something as extreme as Nazism and the bad/crazy democrats do.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stevie wonder
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: We're way off tech, but I have to say that anyone who thinks US democrats are socialists doesn't know much about socialism.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Says a proud non-American socialist.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you realise that you cannot do any comparison with Nazism in a debate without it immediately being ended
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: Trufax.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Averan is agreeing with that Fnord person again...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: definitely, and since this was not the debate channel I found it particularly apropos.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: No, the Democrats you speak of know full well of socialism.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: this should be on debate, not tech
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: normally its on imm
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should be moved to imm, really
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: but apparently we felt we needed a different color today
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: no?  Keep it on a channel that just about everyone can see.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I'm so glad I don't sit at SH =P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't need to be SH to see immchannel
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: anyone know the command for Bast's eq manager to flush and reset the db?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I hardly know anyone that is on debate channel.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: maybe Winkle (Fiendish is far too busy) could whip up a plugin that scans channels for keywords and then flips colorset settings.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish is far too busy.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: but I am open for a different channel myself that everyone seels.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gofer it, dokkar
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so go to debate then
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can see debate perfectly fine, saatai
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish wonders what he's far too busy doing.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: let's use the mxit channel.  Show them what real spam looks like.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish is currently far too busy watching The Gilmore Girls.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Same as what is phalea is on the announce channel, imm alt or what?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: Ghost Whisperer here.  On 'mute'.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: "Caffine Girls " - they all talk to fast about nothing , meth heads !
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Saatai: why does it matter?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lasher sometimes takes notes that he thinks are important and puts them on announce.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: phalae is not an imm alt. the note was posted on a public channel and lasher reposted it to announce
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: matters to me, and matters to a lot of others.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing sekret going on there
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Atom Tech: phalae is an imm alt :P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: saatai: exactly what about it matters to you? and why do you think anyone else cares?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: people may be curious, but it doesn't matter to anyone
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Lasher has reposted my notes to announce/mudinfo before. Maybe I'm an imm alt. Do you think I'm an imm alt? Does it matter to you?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the game wasn't hacked. Lasher saw a very well-written note, on a subject that he cares about (and is sick of writing notes on himself) :P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I suppose if they can scan for known private characters they could avoid trying to bother that imm since it's obvious they are either AFK or not in IMM mode.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I believe the original post was on General.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Fiendish I don't care if you was an imm alt, the statement did not belong on announce, should of been a imm makeing such statement.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: on a scale of 1 to 10 of things to be upset aobut....
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The statement did belong on announce. Lasher sed so.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: jesus, get over yourself
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: it was... lasher made that statement, he just quoted a lot from someone else!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: in hindsight, some sort of blurb about it being moderated could've helped.  Like those handled lines on Typos and Bugs.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: we'll be sure to run all future announcements of any kind past your necessary filters, saatai.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: but yah, definitely on the 'who gives a crap' side
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Reason I know your not all there Abelinc.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if i were you, i'd be more worried about the world economic collapse, exploding world population, and how we are all going to feed, water, and heat ourselves in 20 years hence
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know of some people who had never been on testport who have created chars there after the note, and I logged into it after a long absence myself and am poking around the "ready to test" areas. the announcement did its job
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Easy Tiger - a moon base!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: bunker time ! tincans n shotguns folks !
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: agreed Abelinc
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why the sudden resurgence of moon base?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: the same could of been done on general
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was done on general
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not everyone reads general
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: except some folks don't read general
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: all your moon base is belong to us
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cause the USA can't get there anymore =P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you were around to read it, you would've seen that
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: i'm glad i don't read general
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: alot of time its just useless junk
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what purpose would a moonbase solve?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: the Chinese are about to have their Sputnik moment and we're REALLY not ready to race them anymore.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: Yes Wyza is mostly useless.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Saatai: how important do you think you are that you feel like /you/ get to decide what Lasher should put on the announce board? 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Onto a more interesting topic... : How many pronounce it Abe-linc and how many pronounce it Abel-inc... Discuss
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher saw it on general and decided "this would make a good announcement"...I think he's the one qualified to make that decision.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: how Important you think you are?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Aardwolf was a better place when nobody saw Saatai on channels.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: I don't use Mush.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: haha
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: ohh snap
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: and there's a lot of certain raw materials there that whomever gets there first gets to claim them (at least until it's decided that moon = unclaimable territory
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: slam
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: And I hope you enjoy your decision.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is enough everyone.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: Sorry Turie.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher sulks in the corner.  Baby!!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I still contend that the sudden resurgence of a moon base is directly related to the likyhood of a lack of americans =P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saatai Tech: So how important you think you are, most use other clients, not saying your client is not good, but...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: a very enjoyable deversion this afternoon
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should this be on debate?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't care what people use. A quick look at 'clients' shows that you're not correct, though.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Nazi's !
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: AND socialists!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: National Socialists !
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's a national socialist?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: how abouts some SnuggleBunny Brand (tm) Motion Lotion  to get things started!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Hitler's Germans
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: It's what the initials that made up NAZI actually stood for.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Nazi is short for National Socialism
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damnit, you've ended that one too
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rusk laughs out loud at Tigernuts.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fnord Tech: I bet Hitler used mushclient-aard
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: is bad that its going there so fast though....
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is going where dast?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err fast
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: any chance we can get this back to a channel worth monitoring?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lets try this " What was so bad about the Nazi's ? "
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Joethered Tech: did hitler have problems writing aliases?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: to nazi comparisons..and debate over :P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hitler had people to do that for him
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, he did.  He was far too proud to take on different names.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: inability to get zmud to talk to gcmp was what caused Hitler to invade Poland
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: hitler wrote Helegear!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: were the numbers on prisoners part od a punchcard sstem made by IBM?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Fiendish Himmler, leader of the mushclient schutzstaffel
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: nope, that was all Fruit of the Loom, there.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Tigernuts: I just can't get these trees...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: having punchcards would've made it too easy for prisoners to escape.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: was just an urban myth I heard 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie burps loudly.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was there a particular variety of arborea you were having trouble with?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: he probably found the declicker bush.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: or removed the wood that obscured the trees ... 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: got to be careful of unclean bushes, they often have dangerous bugs
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Unclean! Unclean!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: or radical burning ones !
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is unclean.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as long as the bush doesn't start talking
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I can see Fiendish with cloven hooves =P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: or burning.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: be careful. see me chewing my cud and i'll be kosher
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ironfist Razor Tech: someone explain that to Stomp please.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all of it?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That Fiendish a hooved goat chewing on cud?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not just hooved...depends on whether cloven
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Fiendish Is de debil!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is Santa.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: worse !!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I spelled that wrong.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish isn't fictional.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Santa = Satan
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Looks like Ol' Dirty Fiendish is lying again. Time to let everyone know!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: Fiendish is fictional.  I've yet to bump into him on the street.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Feindish's greatest trick would be to have you believe that he does not exist =P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: You wander the wrong streets.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure it's not the right ones?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Fiendish is on the corner most of the time?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: yes, I'm sure I do.  They were dirty and dangerous and people were quite rude.  It was all very inconvenient.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: kinda like here, but all wrong.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: af
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish revs his engines at the corner of a rival gang's turf, looking to start a fight.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stomp Tech: afraid the discussion has died after the nazi comments :P
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: 9
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: isn't that what's supposed to happen, godwin & all that?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Stomp nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: that was tiggernuts theory 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the godwin rule is rather unfortunate. comparison to hitler's rise to power are frequently rather apt
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: godwin rule ? 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: google it, you nazi.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Witch-king Sammael Tech: Gettho voice: "Oh no you di'int!"
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the problem is that mike godwin never suggested that invoking hitler or nazis would automatically end/lose an argument. he only postulated that it was inevitable
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just googled , Hail Wiki!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: anyone seen scripthelper.exe after they loaded winkles s and d script?????
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: somereason it keeps requesting access everytime I open IE
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's s&d consists of 3 xml files, there is no .exe
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: well I never saw it before I loaded it.. now for some reason its requesting access EVERYTIME I open IE
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have AVG 2012?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: why yes I do... 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scripthelper.exe is part of AVG's toolbar
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: How come I never seen it before I loaded S&D? I been running AVG for 3+ years
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: lets see if it comes up when I close mush
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't think it was part of AVG before 2012
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you weren't running 2012 for 3 years ;-)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I've had avg 2012 since it came out and I been aardin since 1997 you think I would have seen it by now...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: brb 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: Just ditch AVG ifyou have windows7. Use MSE. It's free for people w/ legit copies of win7
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: must be something to do with that script... doenst load when my mush is closed...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: think I should allow it to run or no?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all it does is provide shortcut links in browser to google search, facebook, weather, and calculator/notepad/windows explorer...pretty redundant
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: here's an AVG support forum on the issue, with link to article on how to disable the toolbar: http://getsatisfaction.com/avg/topics/scripthelper_exe
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: does anyone know of a decent mob db plugin? (sans data)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: any hints on creating a trigger on the output given by "where *" ? since the whitespace between the mob name and room name changes
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it will be at least one space, so \s+ should do.  It's probably easier to just use a fixed-width pattern to match anything that can appear in a mob name, though.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, easy enough to regex it...can also check out what winklewinkle used in his scripts (I haven't looked at his pattern)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ie, ^[\w\s-,]{1,25}.  Of course, I don't recall how long the column actually is.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havoks Tech: thanks. i used ^(.*)\t(.*)$ before realizing it wasn't a tab
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you go with the fixed width, you will want to trim the extra whitespace off of what you captured.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: have a techie question and would like some responses in tells, because I'll be in another window if you guys don't mind. Looking for a few good websites to put together a good gaming pc...not to buy parts to put it together myself just a place that has reasonable prices, where I can choose what i want and have someone else build it.... if you are free :) thanks 
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If you want reasonable prices for a gaming PC, you pretty much have to build it yourself.  Look at alienware, for example.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: define gaming
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: you can get a BARGAIN PC to mud :)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: I get mine from cyberpowerpc.com
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I like newegg
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pedwiddle is agreeing with that Mcmartin person again...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: i've found cyberpowerpc is cheaper than building same from newegg parts
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: cyberpower is garbage
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: every person i've known to get one usually gets it doa
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: at least once, sometimes twice
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: not me so i'
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: oh never mind DELLs are the best!!!  or even better, get a COMPAQ.  You will LOVE it.  They make the best Gaming PCs evar!!!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: My Compaq fell apart SOOO fast.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I like Tandy computers
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: honestly macs are built the best, of course their price shows it too
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: and no, i'm not a mac fanboi
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meh, they are built well, but you overpay for the name, not the quality.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: You might be able to play this game on a Tandy...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If you were to custom build your own using equivalent or better parts and didn't use apple parts, you could still get a better/more powerful/sturdier computer, for less.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I'm on my 386 with a 2400 baud modem and I'm kicking mob butts
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: and the ansi color graphics are blazin'
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: 300 baud!
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: on my c-64
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I'm on my TI-85 calculator
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I'm on a dumb terminal
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: I connect via abacus
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I knock two rocks together.  the sparks form bits, which are carried on the wind.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: i'm pressing cuneiform stylus in a mud tablet right now
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mcmartin Tech: I play via smoke signal
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'm the reason the pony express is still running.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you're the pony?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, I'm the mail.
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: furries...
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: I knew I would find them here
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do you force the copy command in windows to copy all files, and subdirectories, and files inside the subdirectories also inside a folder?
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: btw thanks for the info about the pc earlier
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: on windows OS sorry
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: del c:\*.* /f /s /q
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: just kidding
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: use xcopy instead of copy, check of /e and /s switches
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: check out*
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: robocopy ftw
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or use terracopy (which usually handles problems better)
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: or robocopy
T3/r6/2012-01-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neckbeard Tech: use xcopy
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: got probably a stupid question about basts spellup 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: why is it adding my attack spells when i sadd all
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: thought it was just supposed to add spellups, least thats what it did last time
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mohan Tech: hi can someone tell me why I can't run this correctly: http://pastebin.com/RwYn0Dmi
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: has anyone tried to put variable aerodynamic control surfaces on motercycles ? for racing and such ? 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: like tiny elevators on the front wheel to keep it on the road during acceleration ?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whimsical Willmek Tech: Maybe, it was done before in the 80s
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whimsical Willmek Tech: Nobody uses it anymore.  Kawasaki used elevators in the mid 90s
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the cowls themselves perform that function
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cool ty ! was a passing idea
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Whimsical Willmek Tech: Yeah, the tail section smooths out the slipstream
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remember that pretty much all vehicles go through pretty extensive wind tunnel optimization (both real and computer-modeled), to increase traction as well as minimize drag
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: is what gave me the idea, just watched something on merc design and thought at diff points , ie aceleration , turning etc you would need diff aerodynamic effects 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: would be even better on a bike like hanging your knee out for drag 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really different aero effects, just different directions...the goal is always to push down onto the ground, hence spoilers
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hanging your knee out isn't for drag
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol myth busted!
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hanging your knee out is to know how much clearance you have before the metal parts are dragging
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ahh  cool , nice to know 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: man, I gotta get my bike out to tail of the dragon this year :P
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I can ride dads dirtbike but no road rego , still fun though 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just heavy :(
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my current bike is 700lbs
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: thats around .3ton ! what is it ? 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: '84 goldwing
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: that those big honda things with reverse gears ?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: LOL ferring must weigh as much as the bike ! looks huge !
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: comfy though ?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's much before they put in reverse...mine's a 1200 4cyl...later they upped it to a 1500 6cyl, and are now 1800 6cyl...the reverse came with the 1500
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my dad's got the 1800 with reverse...he hooks a trailer to it for longer trips
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reverse on those is actually just the starter motor pushing the bike
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: stuck in my head cause its the only bike Ive seen with reverse 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: mine is XR250 , not sure what year but it's old, Honda too 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bikes have been steadily getting bigger/heavier...now 305 v8 engines aren't all that uncommon
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: not really mine .. I can hardly lift in with a full tank 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas 's bike has a 27yo, 67kg engine that wheezes when it goes uphill...
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I've seen a triumph with a V6 or 8 not sure which but it was huge 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, mine's 28yo this year
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it has no probs going uphill still :-)
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seriously, Salvanas looks around and whistles innocently.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc hasn't pedalled in a while tho
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: wtf ? some weird "BRO" cult? 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: soz mis chan
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: anyone know why mush would be "unable to create plugin save state file"?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no write permissions
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i installed a new AV yesterday and lots of stuff is going wrong on my computer since then
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: too big
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: something is locking that file.. i get that because i run mush in dropbox
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or you have just installed new AV software
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: or windows was indexing the file
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: or you are using windows 7 and it's installed in the program files folder
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I don't think windows should lock the file in that instance -- indexing for search usually ducks lower in the OS to avoid that
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: if you do a double save.. it can detect the change.. try and index it.. blocking the 2nd save
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Anyone be able to help me figure out why Gaardian's webpage is not working for me, when it's working for seemingly everyone else? I'm obviously still connected to the internet, so it can't be that, but otherwise I'm at a total loss here.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You're not connected
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What you're seeing now is being transmitted by an alien spaceship directly into your brain
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Oooo weeee ooooo...!
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But the spaceship doesn't transmit the gaardian website, and that's why it's not working
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Well, that just makes perfect sense then.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Someone should get on that. Seems pretty important.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what do you mean by "not working for me" ?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: and why you can see Starling , shes an alien =P
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Haha. Indeed.  And as for "not working", when I type in the URL it just brings up the whole "Internet cannot display this webpage", yada yada...yet I can browse any other site fine.  Just anything related to gaardian, I can't view, as if the internet just refuses to connect to it.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: dirst check your dns: nslookup <web page address> 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: nslookup? I'm pretty stupid with computers - where would I type this? The URL bar?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: command prompt
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if it doesn't work then either it is problem with your dns - then try to switch to other dns, else the problem is on gaardian part - then just wait several hours
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: a simple ping will determine if you have connectivity.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I typed it through the command port, and the request kept timing out - I assume this means it's on my end, since other people can connect to gaardian fine. So should I wait, or is there a dns fix for this?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that depends, check whether you can nslookup other sites, like www.google.com
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Google works fine.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: try connected by ip, lol
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: scripts enabled for the site?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sobeit Tech: do a format c: /u/q  just kidding!
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: ahh yes, start with the simple solutions first.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I've used gaardian's webpage I don't know how many times between when I started and now, and it's worked fine up until now. so I presume scripts are enabled.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Connected by IP?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: suppoed to be connecting by ip, lol
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still it can be problem with gaardian dns - if server is down then your dns could not cache dns entries from gaardian
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can try telnet <gaardian.ip> 80
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Well, I know from when I asked on question that other people could connect to gaardian fine - but I don't know if this is exclusive to me, or say an internet company thing.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Would I type that in on the command prompt as well, Trachx?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you can connect, then gaardian web serves accepts connections
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, command prompt
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you need to know gaardian ip
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: And substitute Gaardian's IP in the space?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: http://rooms.gaardian.com/index.php is down for me on east coast usa, so is twitter, smell a dns attack
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: telnet 69.163.150.92 80
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though without working DNS it can be hard to connect - because virtual hosts require working DNS
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Got 'telnet' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program, or batch file.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: without telnet and due to lack of your technical knowledge further diagnose is impossible
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: I also cannot connect to the roominator
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Well, thank you for trying to help, Trachx :D I really appreciate it.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: even though having telnet you could only diagnose, that you can connect to server hosting gaaridan's webpage
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yet, not working DNS is problem - you could probably resolve it by switching to other DNS
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I just didn't understand why their site specifically wasn't working for me...most other generic sites I use (google, aardwiki, emails, etc) work just fine.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but as gaardian's www worked for you earlier, it is wise to just wait
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: the roominator now works for me, lol
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Aha. Everything's up and running again. Weird. Wonder what could've happened.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i sometimes have cache issues using chrome.. use another browser?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I use IE9.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: EWWWW!
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there can be many reasons - DNS is one of them, server down (diagnose via telnet), firewalls, broken routes
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: rooms was down
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Though honestly, I opened Chrome and tried using that and got the same problem.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: where are you located geographically lulz?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sotura Tech: now its up
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Um..USA, Midwest-ish I think. In Michigan.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: works for me again too.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just came back , idk if it is relavent but I can't get into gaardian either atm 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: I'm in Arizona, was thinking maybe it was a local router
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: eq.gaardian was down too.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'm routed through texas, I believe.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I'm in the middle of Australia ... 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check this with tracert / traceroute or ping with trace recording
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err route recording not trace
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lywryn Tech: I route through Los Angeles.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: my laptop died when mush was saving/quitting. now the save file is ruined. what files can be copied to new install if any?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: mapper database
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: all my bots are lost?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: your what?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: triggers and aliases
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what triggers and aliases?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deuter Tech: check mcl file whether is readable or not
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: those that are in global preferences
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you email me your mcl file i'll take a look at it. just make sure it doesn't have your password in it
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: ok.. thanks a lot!
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rabidrabbit Tech: cooking now.. i'll take a while
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Hmmm can anyone tell me why I try to set up a trigger for the donation xp and it does nothing  if I put the first line in but add the [ symbol it makes every single line page me but if I leave it out it doesn't work...what am I doing wrong?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: I have zmud...
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: we don't know how to help if you don't show what you tried
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: Well I enter in this 10 minutes of double exp started courtesy of donations being open and it makes every new line page me(which is the trigger) but if I leave out the [ then donation double doesn't page me at all like the other double triggers I have set up do
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: 10 minutes of double exp started courtesy of donations being open 
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: hmmm okay well the [ symbols don't show up so i'm being stupid again :P
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try ~[
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: sorry for the little spam there I hit enter key too soon...
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course you're about to be able to turn off that trig for the next 5 months }:>
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone good at finding drivers? we have an old scanner we're looking to get rid of, and wanted to make sure it still works (vidar truscan 800)...xp can't seem to find a driver for it so need to manually add it..
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=487743
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chances are you won't get it to work
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wasn't supported past windows 2000
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: also drivers here but as TN said support stops after winXP or 2000. http://www.contex.com/Default.aspx?ID=11421
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd be best off with fatesdagger's link, it's manufacturer direct
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: how do i flag a room as noportal in aardmushclient?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ATAR Jek Tech: try to use a portal in it
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks you
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: jek, does it work in aardwolf plaza hotel?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works everywhere...it's a trigger on the magic walls message to mark current room as noportal
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i don't think its flagging mine. it still tries to use my fayke portal
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your fayke portal may be set up to be usable in norecall rooms
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err noportal rooms
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: it does so by default?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i just got back.  i have no idea on how these mapper works.  just trying them out. it seems like it takes some time getting used to it
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to fiendish's page, click wiki, click what's included in the package, featured plugins, gmcp driven world mapper
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}None the Wyza Tech: also, mapper help
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GentooX kisses Drunk'ing Abel.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hosch has a nice guide on his page
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I linked to it
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: yza im reading mapper help
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: thanks fiendish
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then click "configuring the norecall/noportal assistance, and yeah, hosch's is just under that
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are few questions which aren't answered on the aard client package wiki
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is there a way to not have the mapper calculate run distance when i'm using the mapper find *blah*
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: because if i try to mapper find a room thats in like 20 different areas, it tries to calculate the difference for everysingle room in every single area and it laggs me for a while.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read 'mapper help
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: I think what you want is mapper quicklist off
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: er on rather
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Aaah i get it
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: YES thats it! Thank you
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bertilak wildly high fives the air, looking very foolish -- very foolish indeed.
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Averan Tech: What's the command to see the command list for Winkle's Extended Mapper?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Is there some way to get a window to always be on top in windows 7?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: deskpins
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: awesome program
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: makes any window "always on top"
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Alright, so no way to do it without downloading a program?
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's a ridiculously tiny program
T3/r6/2012-01-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Yeah, I'm just not on my computer at the moment.  Thanks though =)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Isn't Uverse supposed to be the best internet available? Well i have it, and it still sucks!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: my uverse is just fine
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and i pay the most expensive plan available in my area
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 18 mb?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: not sure, something like that.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i think its 12mb in my area.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: 18mb is pretty bad since you almost never get what they quote.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: when did you get it vadar?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I've had it probably 6 months now
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chicken & Waffles Tech: I think it's probably by area, but I've never heard anyone having a good experience w/ ATT dsl.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parzifal Tech: ahh. :(
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Honestly, i've never had a problem until now, but they've had to come and change EVERYTHING, wires included twice.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: it just randomly drops to barely any internet
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: right now i have like 900ms ping on aardwolf
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: wireless or wired in?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Only time mine does that is when me and my roommates are, umm, downloading :P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm wired directly into the thing on this comp!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CrakPuppet Kongol Tech: into the modem or a tv box?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i'm the first computer connected! and all the others are completely shut-off
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: no torrents either
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: i have the same problem with the company i use, i think its a connection issue on their end
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: somethings wrong when your jailbroken android phone can tether faster than you pay 200bucks a month of internet for.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: wifi on modem off?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nah, its broadcasting it.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: If i understood your question correctly :D
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Has aardwolf ever considered posting some of the info messages (like 1 hour doubles) to a twitter or rss feed?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Abelinc's done it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Is it still functional and public?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Follow @aardmud on twitter
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Of course, now that I say that, I think the doubles are on a different feed...
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: how do i set up an alias so that i type "Debuff <mob>" and it proceeds to cast all my debufs that i want to use
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: debuff * --- c blahblah %1;c derpderp %1
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: in muschlient
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: but in general, debuffing mobs isn't worth it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: oh yes, in mushclient. Sorry
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Unless you're doing the Gauntlet goal.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: uhh... seems to be worth it for me
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I mean, the Gladiator Arena gauntlet.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: if i use raw rune and soften i do an average of 50 - 70 extra damage per hit
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: but thats not the question I was asking :)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: but you give up two rounds of damage to do that and combat shouldn't take that long, in terms of XPing
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i answered your question :p
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: The purpose is irrelevant i just was wondering if someone would help me set it up, not for advice on xping
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...and he *answered the question*...
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: 'tech -h 20'
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: dismissing the question is not answering it, but thanks anyway
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: i honestly did answer your question
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: scroll up further
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: ahh, thanks you couldn't see the legitimate answer through all the others
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: i did just that but it keeps saying that its not a command, i know i have aliases enabled... hmm ill poke around more i guess
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ctrl-shift-9 -> add... -> alias: debuff * -> send c balhblah %1/c derperp
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the laptop works again...i actually did it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: major open board surgery lol
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: and now one is on to share in my moment of glory lol
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: wow this is odd
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: any mac users online?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: an oxymoron ? =P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: am not!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: So I just bought this USB 3.0/2.0 external drive
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: think abelinc is a good resource for that, prolly in bed though
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: formatted to mac using my old Mac Book Pro, ---- But it doesnt show up on my new mac mini... what kinda shit is that - legacy devices support it but new devices dont?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just find it odd
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: in Mushclient how do I do multiple grabs for an alias, would i just use 2 *'s and thne %1 %2?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thats how i do it, but there are better ways
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: Is there a way to make it so i can either have an argument or not at the end of an alias?  for example im making aliases for all my assorted aardweapons to simplify grabbing them from my bag and stuff.  What I have is "* level whatever item *" for the alias and " %1 <item number> %2"  So that I can type "Get level 70 axe bag" and it will get the correct weapon, but if I type Wield 173266285 the alias doesnt input the item number leading the game to tell me i dont have the item
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: Is there a way to make it so i can either have an argument or not at the end of an alias?  for example im making aliases for all my assorted aardweapons to simplify grabbing them from my bag and stuff.  What I have is "* level whatever item *" for the alias and " %1 <item number> %2"  So that I can type "Get level 70 axe bag" and it will get the correct weapon, but if I type Wield level 80 axe the alias doesnt input the item number leading the game to tell me i dont have the item
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: sorry for the winded question, just trying to be thorough
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in those situations I have had to make two aliases, one for with both, and one for just one.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: Ahh, okay I don't know why I didn't think of that.  Thank you
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keyer Tech: Another question lol, but what is the command i type into Mushclient to set a variable to something
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: I have to announce my sendhia mapper is complete!!! :D
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Wewt!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: grats !!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: well done!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: This was an annoying area at first lol
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My mush shipped with one of those :-)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er.. What's there to map in Sendhia?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Tons of Cexits
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: err whats a mapper.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Tons? Like.. 5?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Read help troll
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Cizra!!! Let me have my noob moment!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: help troll says about a race. :\
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: have never used one, and I dont see the need to.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yay Vadar! Go! Go! Go!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mine sings songs and gets me to call for it to come out of my backpack.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you can't see the need?   
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien is agreeing with that Sneak person again...
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, you mean you mapped it?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Love you Cizra!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Grats, of course.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what for, it takes away the fun.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and speaks in spanish
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i have never used my legs and i can't see the need to!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Nobody *needs* to win GQs.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I thought you wrote a plugin for automatically mapping Sendhia or something.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: well I've won a few of my own w/o a mapper
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Oh no, i finished exploring it and creating the proper cexits for it.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Hah, Winkle. :D
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper isn't necessary to win GQ
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Same here.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper can help to win GQs...it can also hinder in them
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i agree abelinc
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mappers are a tool - it can be used well, or it can run you into Christmas Vacation.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depending on how much you put into its setup
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: level lock was a nice addition to the mapper
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: its like buying a supercar, but hiring a robot driver to drive it for you
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: level lock?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: where's teh fun in that.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not really - it's like autopilot, but leaving you in control of the guns
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And I always liked the guns.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol :D
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my speedwalk to realm of evil heroes (now infamy) echoes this if I'm lowbie level, rather than running there: Umm, /heroes goes to Realm of Evil Heroes. You want /call at this level
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why not have it run you to call?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Faster that way
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's like a bowl of cereal right?  and then you add milk.,.. and then it gets soggy.. but you kinda like it soggy.. adn then the bowl has autopilot
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Regnator Josh Tech: That's nice...could have used that when I ran to partroxis at low levels sometimes since it used to be death's gate :P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: anyone else have "problem areas" for MUSH's mapper?  areas where the rooms don't load properly?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I thought this was metaphor day...what's with all the similes?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: STOP SMILING AT ME SIMILE!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Cera: no.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think they're analogies
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you do, it's likely a replacement area and the mapper in the newest package updates *should* handle that, but will warn you to purge the old zone anyway
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: nope , just "ironic" ... 
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but aard is digital, how can they be analogies?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: kobaloi is the current issue.  it is a replacement
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: At least they aren't analorgies.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Digital? Then why do I have this giant crank for my gqbo-I mean Legitimate Purpose Script?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: river of dispair's replacement was also giving me issues.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper purgezone ...uhh...dwarven?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: WinkleWinkle laughs out loud at Vakieh.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: heheh mapper purgezone aylor :P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: WHY
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i would die
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: don't purge aylor
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you purge aylor you won't be able to get all of it back
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: hehe no don't tdo that
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: lol how come?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: delete aardwolf.db, it's useless bloat :-P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: guild towers lock you out
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But seriously, don't do that :-P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kurojiryuu Tech: not for me~~ =P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Those goddamn towers. 42 unexplored rooms staring at me, laughing o.0
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's actually another reason
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Why would you want the guild towers back if you can't go there anyway?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: since there's no way currently to assign new background images to areas, you'll probably lose the background texture
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I should really fix that
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I purged my Aylor - have the stone background atm
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yeah? cool
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That was WAAAaaaaayyyy back though - before checkversion
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. I guess it's covered by the texture field in room.area
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: never mind. I guess you can purge safely :p
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I was standing in Aylor when I did it, though - that may have perpetuated some stuff
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: why would you purge aylor?!?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because 'mapper unmapped here' doesn't work when the map comes preloaded
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Had to do it for all the preload areas, Beer, Underdark, etc
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: we need a command that will check mappers areas against aardwolf's aera and purge the excess.  for useing after relpacements go live.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you probably could do that.. be kinda dangerous
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why would you have areas mapped before they go live?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or did you mean comparing the replacements with the original areas...
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: methinks she means the opposite...auto-purging the old area
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: no, purge the old area.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't happen so often that automating it would be worth the effort imo
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I see.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: what would probably be better is if when you entered a roomid you already had mapped.. but the area name was different.. that mapper prompted you to purge the old area
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it DOES do that
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think it does now
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: oh nice
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it does?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i've never seen it do that
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: must be relatively new add on
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: maybe i missed the message?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it should do it for every room that gets remapped
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't see how you'd miss it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: whats the newest replacement area?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it in the on-aard's-page version, or just the google code version?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i'll see if i get any messages
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the one on aard's website is new enough
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in any case, I don't disagree in principle that the mapper shouldn't have a way to compare db area keywords against the mud list, but if it doesn't automatically purge a zone now then I probably had a reason for doing it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: even if I can't remember the reason
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because it /does/ detect when a room has changed areas
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i don't really see the need for it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using mapper to goto oldareaname is handy that first time, at least
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: and could potentially purge a whole area.. which would be bad
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, someone posts a note with a subset of areas with keyword, BOOM! half your db nuked!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hah
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't that have sucked before the db backups
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I sometimes make brittle triggers. I think for this I wouldn't be so careless
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: yeah notes are where all my plugs mess up!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: could be done with a user command to prevent that.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: fiendish (or anyone else).. I run MUSH on a mac with wine and X11 .. can I use this same thing to run other window only programs?  I tried one, but it needed .NET framework to work.. is there a way to get that to work on my mac?  (without using bootcamp)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: you may be able to get mono to work on your mac?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: mono?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: sounds like a diesease...  :p
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: it's like .net framework for linux
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, I'll google it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: Wine -> windows, like mono -> .net framework
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Wine doesn't have .net framework?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i dont' think so?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: Ok, I was just asking, I don't know if it does or not. :P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: when I tried to run the install program, it started then yelled at me for not have NET installed.  so I guess not.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat nods.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GentooX Tech: i don't know mac but i use winetricks to install .net to wine on linux
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lrynn Tech: the wifes laptop lives
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone using an ssh client to log into testport?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Electrobite peers around himself intently.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: Hmm. How do you call functions from macros in MC?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: By their name. :D
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: No, Send( " " ) ina macro doesn't work.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darth Vadar S sorry, it was worth a shot to try.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: S'all good.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: s'snakes?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: isnt there a command to reset the aard mush screens
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: aardreset or resetaard
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: i forget which
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: resetaard thanks
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: resetaard iirc
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: Is there a reason I can get a trigger to work for my quest message but not for the double exp messages?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Something's already triggering on it?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: Hmm. when I think about it - I guess the q-message-trigger is the full string
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: while the other ones are just parts of them
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, if you're going to trigger on parts you need to use wildcards
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: why? 
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ^BELOW THE FLARE YOU HEAR * SCREAM "*"$
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: you can always use "double" as trigger and even if it's not useful, it works
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Because in Mush it auto-anchors the triggers.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: no, you'd have to trigger on *double*
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll have a double cheezburger...
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: And how would I make it a wildcard?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: As I just showed you, with an asterisk
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Asterisk = 0 or more of any character.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: ah. tried to ask that but it wouldnt let me write "*"
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: ^^
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Wouldn't let you write it? I've never known mush to parse out asterisks.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: asterisk, %1-9, and anchoring part of it with $ and ^
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: %1-99, technically
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: said tech is not social
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, aard parsed that out
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: Anyway. I just assume its working the same way as old search in windows/DOS then?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: @ * = * to start a message on a channel on aard.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: ic.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Uses regexp, if you click the 'convert to regexp' button, you'll see exactly what it's looking for, and it'll show where the anchors are.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slodhian Tech: if you want to really know how it works, just read about regexp
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: SWEET! It worked ^^
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: grats
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WireDon Iluvatar Tech: Thanks mate 
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: np
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: cool, IBM can store one bit of data on just 12 atoms now (the typical range is about a million atoms).
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Woohoo!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: I downloaded the new mush about a week ago and ever since, there is SOMETHING gagging certain outputs. like 'list' in stores...nothing shows up. ever. and mafia list shows nothing, as well. any ideas?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Stock Mushclient from Fiendish's google code website, or you adding other plugins, like Bast's?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anyone have experience unlocking international smart phones for US use?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Isn't the US a part of 'international'?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: heh, no. ubernational
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Ultranational?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raijon Tech: i assume he means "non-usa" by international
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: I added Bast's plugins
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: thats not what he asked
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: and winkle's
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I fried my bberry bold in the rain so gotta buy a new smartphone
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Want an Android LTE device
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Hmm Granola - I wasn't able to get the two to co-exist myself a few versions ago so ended up not installing Winkles when I upgraded not sure if others have the issue.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but from what I read, the US offerings are lacking
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: check out online reviews and once you know what phone you want, try to find the relevant hacks
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The 2 spellup offerings HATE each other
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: xda forums is good for android stuff
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I ended getting like 50 lines every cp check
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i know jack about phones
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Granola Tech: thanks menda
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For ease of use, buy an iPhone and jailbreak it.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can i just buy one of the new samsung phones in  europe and it will work with ATT's network?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, i hate apple
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hence the jailbreaking.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Haha glad to help to the extent that I did.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: not out of the box, koji. unless you buy it unlocked
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Here in Aus we sell a whole bunch of unlocked phones, sold a lot to US visitors
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are they sold from the vendor unlocked or do i need to hack it?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They will be listed as unlocked - basically if they come sans sim card, they are unlocked
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: some companies sell them unlocked, but generally they will be more expensive
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i want a nexus with android 4.0
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: not available in the US, but avail internationally
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: if you find someone thats selling them, they will most likely be able to tell you if the phone comes unlocked
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone ever experience this before, or know the problem?  Only on one channel (Fox, if it makes a difference) does my TV suddenly "lock up" and "reboot" itself every once in a while.  It never does it on a TV show, just commercials.  The screen will sort of "melt" and the audio will get stuck on repeat.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Obviously an Obama campaign scheme.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: fox sucks :)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: lol
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: I had this happen exactly once.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: it wasn't on fox, though
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine's quite often, sadly.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: you on cable or dish?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Digital TV.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: he means what is the medium used to deliver that digital tv
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: plain network only?  With one of them rebate set-top boxes?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I should have elaborated.  Digital TV through antenna, no cable, no dish.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's an HDTV, so no box needed.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Etzli Who's your tv company?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: HD  doesn't mean digital...
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: IE who do you pay your bill to
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at Seriously, Salvanas.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: he just said he uses antenai
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: you cant get analog signal anymore in us
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: its all digital
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Antennae doesn't mean analog
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: well free to air antenna in us is all digital no analog anymore
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Johnny Ringo.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: free'd up some frequencies doing that lol
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But yeah, any other channel, at all.  It's so weird.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: not all stations are created equal.  Science channel, for example, seems to have lots of audio problems.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Dokkar.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just don't understand why it causes the TV to reboot itself (it actually shuts off for about 5-10 seconds, then turns itself back on).
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: have you searched online for the same issue? seems odd to me
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have, yes.  All I seem to have gotten so far is "Analog is going digital!"
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What's the make/model of the TV? (sorry if I missed it earlier)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I have a sneaking suspicion it has nothing to do with the signal, just a tv quirk
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Emerson TV.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But just on that one channel, no other one, Ixle?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And ONLY during commercials?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: but he said it will only happen during the commercials lol coincidence perhaps
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: if it's just one one channel, it's a signal issue.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just a good place to start, even if I'm wrong.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elena Tech: Is it a specific commercial? (if you can tell)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not that I've noticed.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dokkar Tech: what's the line-of-sight like for your area?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The antenna is located on the roof, and line-of-sight is pratically clear.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: Not an antenna thing, if the TV itself (instead of just the signal) is cutting out... 
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seriously, Salvanas Tech: I suspect a quirk with the circuitry, possibly relating to that particular frequency.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: is it possible to even broadcast a signal that would cause the tv to turn off and on?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Damn, no what's the frequecy kenneth social!
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, cool tune (and funny story)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Circuitry overload... *smirk*
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I used to have ir headphones - every so often the particular frequency would make my tv do weird things
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Best part was certain songs would make it do things predictably :-P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archangel Trihex Tech: hahha nice
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: makes sense, remote is just pulsing ir
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Trihex - not really possible except from inside your home.  As Salvanas said, it's a problem inside your TV most likely.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, fun fun.  I suppose I'll live with it. :P
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: how do i make an alias that can set off mapper resume?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: send it to execute
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: still doesnt work
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Should.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're doing something else wrong then
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: hmm, sec
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: nope, not working
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: what could i be doing wrong?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: i set the alias to be "mr"
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: and it sends "Mapper resume"
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: to execute..
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Get rid of the capital..
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: small m
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: aaah
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: lol so picky
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: thanks :D
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i wouldn't call case sensitivity picky :P most programming languages are
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Very few languages aren't case sensitive.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: Is this really a programming language though?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's what i just said...
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: ! :O so i'm writing a language? what language lol
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: You're using functions written in Lu
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SchoolGirl Nykaedryn Tech: Lua*
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's not a full language
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just a Lua backend
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You CAN write it fully in lua, though
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: But what you're doing via the GUI isn't 'programming' in the full sense.
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darth Vadar Tech: k gotcha
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: anyone here use Winkle's search and destroy plugin? for some reason i am having a hard time downloading it
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: someone else mentioned winkles earlier, they had to remove it because it was going head to head with their other programs
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: the last one i used was adaware and i had no trouble with that
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: they removed it from their computer? or Winkle removed it from his site for download?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bogstar Tech: they had to remove it from their comp
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: is there a built in function in mush to run directly to a room using the room number?
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: type mapper help for commands
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (you want mapper goto)
T3/r6/2012-01-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: thanks a lot :)