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T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger tickles Xantcha.
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I liked c#
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: not a black hole, just magic, remember :P
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: copy/paste your dicv
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: div*
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I started on a MOO, or Mud Object Oriented
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can checkout ms's framework too
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: MFC? Ick.
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I save my miniwindow layout? I have it locked but at times they move when I close and reopen the client
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: save world automatically on close? although I'm not certain if plugins are connected to the world or the client
T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: they are saved in the state files but for some reason they don't always stick. The size stays the same but they move positions
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ugh, did they change keepvid.com?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: people still use keepvid?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: downloadhelper extension for firefox is the way to go
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that "iterate through all same-named rooms in an area" feature I've heard about is making S&D real tempting when I keep getting mobs in "A Dead End in the Labyrinth"
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: It is very nice for times like that. Never as fast as someone who knows the exact room instantly.. but nice to be able to go down the list loooking for your mobs.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wow the android client is awsome
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: you using blowtorch?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yep, the custom version for aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: though typeing is something i will have to get used too
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: Some options such as 'compact' can be toggled. Is is possible to forc
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: I can only toggle some options such as 'compact'. Is is possible to set their value (for scripting)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: what do you mean by set their value?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: I mean something like 'compact on' or 'compact yes'
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: in order to achieve?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ah, you want specifically to be able to turn it on or off without knowing which it is
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it order to toggle the option on or off, regardless of it's previous state. I don't think there is a way to do this
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: perhaps you could look for the lines "Compact mode set." and "Compact mode removed."
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: Indeed. Some triggers could work
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I see use for this even outside scripting. Suppose you need to toggle autoassist off - good thing to do in inferno. Now I have to spam 2x autoass, and maybe a third time if I see need to toggle it
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: anybody here use a autohunter crypt
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Huan, or keep track of its status in a variable
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: yes, but that means some scripting, maybe miniwindow to display it... which is a lot of work
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i have the autohunter plugin but i yhink its broken
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunja Tech: is there any basic tinyfugue script sets, what would provide movement, lites, fighting/surveillance helpers?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: geeze, why not just hire someone to play the game for you
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunja Tech: people don't use quick buttons around?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weisel Tech: how can i remove an area from the mapper?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: using mapper purgezone
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weisel Tech: thanx alot
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: type mapper help for the list of commands
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the mapper is awesome
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does anyone else have a problem using winkle's quest plugin (which shows quest and CP mobs in status bar) where by if you join a GQ and GQ check, the mobs dont appear (probably because its trying to put them in the status bar?) I dont know?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I use search and destroy and can't use it for quests or global quests on cp's because i can't togg
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ... only cp's because...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: S&D bugs out on me pc, so i just use Basts Hunt
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: but i have to type gq info for mob info on a GQ, and it doesnt cut it..
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: i need to be able to GQ check
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that is my complaint with it, I was wondering if there was a better plugin
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: in place of S&D?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: If you are not in WinkleWinkle's clan, you will not have the full version of S & D, so no GQs assist, and they have the advantage.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ah so it is a dumbed down version
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: So write your own!
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: that is not my problem though... my problem is that im using Winkles Quest Status plugin and its messing with my GQ check
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: well I like it for cps
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: robbo I lack the skill or motivation lol
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: me too
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Ah, well, that is a barrier.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I did write my own... but for CMUD.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does anyone else use winkles quest status plugin?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xzyth, try typing "showinfo 1"
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: hmm i turned debuggin on to
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: it was bcos my debugging was off Abe :P hehe
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: ah wait.. Abe you were right :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: how to change the font mush uses for the command bar....im typing in bold for some reason...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmmm, dont see an option for bold tho...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "change font"...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ahh, just had to uncheck override with default
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: thanks. that fixxed it. dunno why it was bold all of a suddon, good now. ty
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you could change it AT the default level...that's file -> global preferences, default tab
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And decoys?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: anyone know a good mac web site builder?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Google might.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: google *blech*
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: Learning to utilize google-fu is huge.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: duckduckgo, startpage.com
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If you refuse to use Google... You're going to have a bad time.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I was hoping someone had experience with one I know search engines quite well
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: Bob!
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: what's the number to call so I can connect my dstv?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: 867-5309
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: already wasted airtime on calling bunch of automated voice number lines,is this the proper one?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: which one korridel
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what's a dstv?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: its satellite tv or whatever you guys call it
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: we call it dstv here
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Guess we just call it a satellite dish. The TV is one thing, the source of the programs another.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how can I throw a slight wait into a mush trigger?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: see google suck no replies for aardwolf goal hotel orlando walkthrough
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zanbone )
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what's a better regex for (.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?) to match anything 11 chars/spaces long? .?{11} ?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: /S{11}
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: .{11} :p
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: oh, and spaces, yeah what Etz said
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needs to match "Level 2 : " or " "
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: .{11} is like .* but only 11 characters long. No more, no less.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: God, that .?.?.?.?.?.? bit was annoying.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thus my question Etzli :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you need a range, you can do .{1,11} or .{5,11}
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You're new to regexp, I take it, Oz? :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ooh... thanks for that trivia too :) can apply that in this same trigger :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sorta... i've only dabbled
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: been learning it by hitting "convert" in zmud
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods. Ranges like Etz showed are much more elegant than the .?...?, and faster.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i know how to match stuff in zscript, then i convert to look at zmuds interpritation
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud it was (???????????)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: equally as ugly :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli convulses as he shudders in disgust.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, thuse the convert AND question :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm sure there's a better way to do it in zscript too :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont think so... for 79 ~'s... i type 158 of em :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something like {Level %d%s:|}%s
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: was ~~{79} in perl regex
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that only matched 1 space
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: %s matches any number of spaces, or it should anyway
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well... it has a (*) after that
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and * was beeing too greedy
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but anyhow, regex does a MUCH better job for ths one overall :)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I updated MC to r1667 and my disarm trigger quit working. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so \s{1,29} for 1 to 29 spaces?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: whoot :P thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: or S(1,29} for 1 to 29 non-space characters.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: \S{1,29}*
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: matching "Soften 25" or "Ballistic attack 5" spaces in between
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i'm redoing a #SUB script, to see: "Level 44 : Trauma (mental) 60 1% 357"
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: adding a new colum to spells combat
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Level Spell name Damage Mana Learned Spell#
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: daikojun: still problem?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you lose other triggers?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: triggers are stored in your world file. Did you copy that over when upgrading?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no all my triggers were moved over and they work. My other triggers are only my AFK trigger and highlights though
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe this trigger accidentally got marked disabled?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I imported it
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: check the "Enabled" checkbox on the trigger configuration
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure it is set
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also, I know sometimes disarm triggers can be a bit complex with stored variables for weapon names and such. does it require any variable to be set like that?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it's enabled. The trigger is ^(.*?) DISARMS you$
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The ^ is redudant in this case.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: someone just made my dis arm trigge go off!
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: really?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You have poor triggers, then.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daikojun Tech: it's enabled. The trigger is ^(.*?) DISARMS you$ makes your trigger fire?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then your trigger is quite poor
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, if it's MUSH, then probably not.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: i have horrible triggers! but thats besides the point :)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you probably need to remove the $ at the end
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i assume there's punctuation at the end of that sentence, but don't know the message offhand
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the ^ in ^(.*) is indeed unnecessary, since .* would catch everything
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It amuses me, though, that people put a start anchor on something that matches everything. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, especially since that trigger text shouldn't even fire on a real disarm :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: shouldn't there be a '.' at the end before the '$'
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: this trigger worked fine on r1557
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe it got changed
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe it never worked and you had a different one that did work that didn't transfer
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that pattern that you posted would never work
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: abelinc this was your trigger. You posted it last week...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that I didn't...that ending $ makes it wrong
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so what should I use as rearm script?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: somebody DISARMS you and sends your NameOfWeapon flying! is the text...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so anything ending in "DISARMS you$" would have to fail
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pretty sure it's listed on the Aardwiki under "General -> MUD Messages"
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's folder includes a rearm trigger and weapon switcher plugin
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: couldn't get bast's to rearm me even after populating the weapons list
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: bast has a rearm script?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: *boggle*
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes cupcake, it's swalec's weaponswitcher
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ok, I'll check that out, thanks. :)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you add the weapons, you must choose the one you're using
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll check it out again
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hey people, i'm just now starting to use the mushclient, and it looks like the default windows sizes aren't filling up my screen
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is there any easy way to keep the current aspect ratio, but just make it bigger?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or is that something i have to do manually?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: also - does the display save?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no easy way to force it to keep aspect ratio, yes the display saves, and you can lock/unlock it if you like
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i turn on parsing? so that i can just hit enter and keep moving?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: figured it out, nvm
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Scars: that's not a parsing issue
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: still having problems with Winkle's quest status plugin and typing gq check
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: it doesnt show the gq mobs... any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: spose next time ill try disable the plugin, and see if it helps
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not just open the plugin in notepad and look at it?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: scrap it and program your own, "Xzyth's Functional Quest Status Plugin"
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: i wish :D
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Any Mac users know how I might use AppleScript (or other scripting tool) to send a command to an *existing* Terminal window?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: From what I've read, every time you send a command to terminal app, it opens a new window.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In Lua, is there a one liner to play a sound?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try PlaySound?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: check out the PlaySound function
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ok, thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: how can I transfer my maps to a new version of mush?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...read that page
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it explains how to move everything over
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: okies
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and if the plugin is complaining about your mush version, you can probably just change the line that says min version...I left it at the default, which is just the client I was running it under
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: line 17, change from requires="4.81" to requires="4.00"
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: hrm I seemed to have screwed it up
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea, refresh script was complaing of version
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: how do i stop aardmush from toggling statmon each time i switch to useing it?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: using even
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: disable the plugin that's doing it.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #1 dunno which, #2 I prolly dont wanna disable anything default to aard mush
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: pretty sure aardmush doesn't use statmon...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so far there has been a togle to toggle everything :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so it shouldnt even mess with it then
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Why do you want statmon up, if nothing uses it?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Received Telopts to turn OFF statmon.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cause i use zmud
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but i "mess" with aardmush
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then you should probably "mess" with the code that's sending the telopts...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: prolly would ifi knew which one
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: look at the plugin names, it's probably obvious :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's real easy to find out. Just open all the plugins in notepad, then do a find for statmon.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but really, a better way to do it would be to do the same thing in zmud
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: enable disable all tags atconnect if you use them or not
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: statmon ... You will now see tagged stats after each prompt.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: its a toggle, no on/off syntax
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there is with telopts
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #sendprompt
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ok, how or where do i read what to send :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: help telopts :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SENDP IAC,SB,102,1,2 .... Sorry Ozzy, I don't understand you.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: don't think zmud can do it
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need to send the actual characters, not literal strings
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm? heh
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: iirc iac is %char(255), sb is %char(252), se is %char(253)... but could be wrong :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/blog/2008/07/10/telnet-negotiation-control-mud-client-interaction/
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: look it up in an ascii table
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks Goatskill
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #sendp %char(255)%char(250)%char(102)%char(1)%char(2)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: .... Sorry Ozzy, I don't understand you.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you missed iac se at the end :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud parsed out the ending char(255)char(240) on channel
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, that's strange
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hang on, let me look up what i use :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even using the example copy/paste from that page.. error
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this is what i used, in zmud: #SENDPROMPT %char( 255)%char( 250)%char( 102)%char( 1)%char( 1)%char( 255)%char( 240)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: from command line... Sorry Ozzy, I don't understand you.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lemme add to an alias
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't see why that would make a difference
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: iacstats ... Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud not cmud right?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SENDP %char(108)%char(111)%char(111)%char(107) after hitting enter... that looks :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so can sendp stuff... just the IAC stuff is erroring
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier for now just to change TelnetOptionOff(TELOPT_STATMON) in the "GMCP Version of statmon" script :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still seems buggy for that plugin to mess with it, if ON, i could understand... but OFF? what does it care :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it prevents all the "what's all these {stats}123,456,123,365,6572,132,234?" questions
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bleh
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: didn't think they were on by default for new people
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they would've been on from any version of aardmush pre-gmcp
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should be a check, if on then off :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: on upgrade that is
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i think fiendish's suggestion of making tags only stay on for a single session was a good one
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i could live with that, onconnect(statmon)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't know what's an upgrade, though, ozzy...it only knows that it was started up and connected to aard
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would be easy enough for all clients to toggle on connect if needed/scripted
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: except it doesn't work for you for some reason :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if it were OFF on connect every time... i could issue statmon
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's true
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for now i am issuing on connect, saving the value and sending agin if off
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just thought there might be a command/toggle in the GMCP statmon plugin :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i think it's reasonable for it to assume that you always want statmon off
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was no need for a command/toggle though, as there's no reason to use statmon when you have gmcp ;-)
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it doesn't come with a trigger to parse statmon, so...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that just assumes everyone who trys mush will keep it
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it assumes if you're using statmon with a client, that that client knows how to turn it on
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i could use statmon in zmud 3... it don't have a clue what it is other then a line fom th mud
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'd be really impressed if zmud 3 still worked...
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but someone who is using statmon must have known how to turn it on...leaving/having it on is only dangerous/annoying for those who don't have that knowledge
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sec for screenshot on XP :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why wouldn't zmud 3 still work?
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: actually.. needa boot the windows 7 netbook
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 3.62a the A being important
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's 32 bit
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://conradshome.com/zmud/
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we still use a freeware program from '99 on a couple hundred XP and W7 machines at work
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is zmud 3.62a in Windows 7 :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's at least one company that uses CMud as their telnet client, bought and paid-for and all.
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://i.imgur.com/USXYV.png
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://conradshome.com/zmud_mirror updated to say it works on Windows 7 :P
T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still wish Zugg wouldn't have lost his source/copies of zmud 1.1 :P
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: reckon I could mod the mapper to include the wait() speedwalk function without having to upgrade?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you mean in cexits, there's already a wait command implemented.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: yeah but it's in a version newer than the one I have, and I've added my own features I don't want to lose. Going to see if I can upgrade individual functions
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you probably could, but it would probably be easier to readd your own stuff to the newer version, assuming you kept a log of your changes
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just because you add the function that adds waits to cexits, it might not necessarily work, it almost definitely has other dependencies
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: another function might have been changed to get it to work, variables can change, even the database structure changes on occasion
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: yes I figured that, this thing is zig-zagged across multiple functions and files. I'll have a look at it and decide whether it's worth the trouble
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You probably want to look into using the wait module that's included.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: end result of the speedwalk function is executing a string with a \n\r concatenated list of commands. I'm going to hijack that away from execute() and run it through a processor which will split and put the rest into a temporary timer whenever it encounters a wait(x). thoughts?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient's built-in speedwalk function already puts in the delay, using the SpeedWalkDelay variable
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what Madcatz's container sort plugin used to prevent too many items in a bag from disconnecting you
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that is true, but I need to set extra-long delays at specific arbitrary points in a speedwalk. mimicing the wait() function in newer versions of the mapper
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: where can i get a autohunter plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bast has one irrc
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol isent there one on a website?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: make one yourself, be adventurous
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: my keyboard broke yesterday im sooo nt making one with a onschreen keyboard
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: no site?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: buy a new keyboard instead, they're not expensive... (unless you want a good one, of course)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: its funny i never get help here its always google it bla blA
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: success
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ugh it took me two hours but my speedwalks can wait now
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just curious, when do you need a speedwalk to wait? Example?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: With my client, I could put in a delay if I needed to without bending myself over backwards, just haven't found any need.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: getting past the "hold on while I open the gate" part of kobaloi
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, now that I think of it, the reason I don't need a delay is that I wrote my mapper so that after a cexit, I need to press a hotkey to continue...
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that's also a good way of doing it
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: any key, or do you have a keypad button linked up to 'mapper resume'?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a specific hotkey. BTW, I'm not using mush, so it's all my own (ugly) code.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: impressive
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wrote it when the mush mapper came out. Didn't want mush, wanted mapper. It's for tt++, but if you want a mapper today, I would go for the Ixle stuff.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: my auto hunt script doesent move after hunt i type what it sais here but no luck ah citizen
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ah mobname it hunts but doesent move
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: when you say "my", do you mean you made it or it's your copy of it?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got tht pluin from a site
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: which one?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: winklewinkle-search and destroi is its name
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol cant remember
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I haven't used S&D but the code seems to indicate that moving works. you need to have the hunt skills practiced, could that be it?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ok that's deifnitely the case, you don't have the hunt skill so you cannot hunt even with auto-hunter
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i dont have the huntskil but jet it hunts
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: so it wil work if i get hunt
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hunt trick doesn't require hunt skill
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hunt trick and autohunt are totally different things
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i get this error xmapper move 32455 unknown omand
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: howcan i get it to move t try to but xmaper thing fails
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: okay I have no idea what xmapper is, someone else take over
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol the plugin hunts then tells xmapper to m0ve 3432 but itsais thats not a command'
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: did you install all the winkle's plugins in S&D and do you have the aardwolf mapper?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: s and d?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: search and destroy
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well i downloaded th sd scrypt on the site shoeld i install the others too
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: and you have the aardolf mush client with the mapper right?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: is there a middleman script that converts SD's "xmapper move 32455" into aardclient's "mapper goto 32455"?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well i think i have a mapper i have the normal map and anothr one with blocks that rt the room i click on
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok...then I don't know why it won't work
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: damn autohunter broke my mush
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is there a aardclient plug-in for auto-recasting of spellup spells to keep a spellup
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: finger bast, or winklewinkle
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: aliased spellup learned always did me well :)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: spellup learned on a hotkey is all I need
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yeah mine is aliased to ss
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have spellup and my clan skill aliased to =, but I still use an auto-upkeep plugin (Bast's) as it sends only the necessary spells even in between individual fights, and I don't have to remember it
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i've been conditioned over years of having a zmud/cmud script be a "running spellup" ... i'd rather not re-learn a new approach
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: heya who had the bag sort plugin and could somebody walk me quickly how to add it?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: madcatz
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: do you know where i could find it?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone know hpow to move a plugin window on mush if you put the bar off screen
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how far off the screen?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: its a gui for campaigns and targets 1 through 6 cannot be seen
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on the plugin
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably has some sort of reset command
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod, found it in the helps thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Nocturnus: hmm.. first google hit for 'madcatz container sort'
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: done i'm at a google doc for it now
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: still there fiendish?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i'm at a google doc for the madcatz container plugin, anybody know how i get that here? =)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "You'll need to save this file, and then rename to to a .xml file."
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: hrm how do i save it? yes i'm a script/plugin/etc noob
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: file . download as . plaintext
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: okie, sec
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: and then save as Container_Sort.xml instead of Container_Sort.txt?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: okie, sec
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: under Save as Type do I keep it at text document or go to all files?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: erm
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the other "File"
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: it's all files.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: right now i have file name Container_Sort.xml and under that is Save as Type
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: which gives me options of text document or all files
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: save as type "all files"
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you're being asked I think you're doing this wrong
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: That will make it save as whatever extension you put in the name field
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: no i'm not being asked
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: for some reason the container sort plugin isnt working for me, its not getting the items or sorting them, it says it is but nothing happens
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: alright after download do i select open, open folder, or close?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ...what?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I'm assuming he's talking about the browser prompt. I'd open folder.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: download complete
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: yeah browser prompt
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: alright i have the container sort in my documents
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: now how do i get it from my documents to here?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish wonders how you even manage to get online.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Nocturnus: move the file into MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i know nothing about mudding except how to actually play i fully admit this
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then in MUSHclient go to File->Plugins...
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: alright how do i move the file to mushclient/worlds/plugins/
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nocturnus ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i can take it from there! =p
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with your fingers
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nocturnus ruffles Ol' Dirty Fiendish's hair playfully.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: well thanks for trying, i hit madcatz up with a personal note to hopefully walk me through it lol, ugh i'm so terrible at this
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, i asked this yesterday, but i don't remember the answer ... the display setup i have i like, how do i "lock" it?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i can't seem to find that anywhere
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just type that?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wow, how about that
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_lock_my_layout_so_that_I_don%27t_accidentally_drag_m
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anywhere
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sweet - second question... is there a way to force an aspect ratio?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bummer
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: all miniwindows are resized individually
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nods, i wish i could "attach" them to each other
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so if i have the 2 mapper windows side by side, they always move together
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah, no way to do that at present
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no biggie, like i said, i'm happy with the layout now, so it doesn't matter to me :)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: while the topic is up, how come when I follow all the directions on the site for an upgrade, my mini window layout doesnt get moved over right?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your layout is stored in individual plugin state files. you have to copy the states over
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: each plugin only keeps track of its own position
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: (this is also why you can't lock windows together)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one of these days i'll figure out how to use the mapper :P
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: one of the reasons I go so long between upgrades is because each time I have to spend a lot of time putting al my windows where I want them, changing colors of heath bars, resetting all my fonts, etc
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: meh mapper isn't really useful
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish chuckles at Ontuct's joke.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I never did see the point of upgrading for the sake of upgrading. If it works, why bother?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: lol ... It is well worth the time figuring it out.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh dear, starling
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because I add new features and fix bugs.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling shrugs in response to Tigernuts's question.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: i do a copy all for the states folder then paste them into the states folder for the new one. doesnt do it
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you've just destroyed the software and hardware industry
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well done :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Cera: mushclient has to be closed while you do this
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: alright, so... another former cmud/zmud user question... i really liked how i could scroll up with a split screen.. do i have that option with the mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I get a major upgrade after a long time interval, that much is obvious
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there can be a time when your PC is on and Mushclient isn't active?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: nod, i know. I'm not doing it right now.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: (8heh ontuct)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Scars: sorry, no split screen. I kept intending to write that, but never did.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Scars: sorry, no split screen. I kept intending to write that, but never did.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I should add it to a list somewhere
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's okay, the "more" at the bottom is pretty helpful and quick way to get back to "real time" as it were
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: keep reminding me and one of these days...
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shout-out "thank you" to zugg for failing to fix the cmud zugg bugs and drive yet more users to mush :(
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ctrl+End gets you all the way down
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not convinced that failing to fix cmud and zmud bugs is actually what gets people to switch
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, two things did it for me... both have equal weight... #1 Lost all of my settings due to my own screw up. #2 I don't code my own scripts anyway.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: for me it was the advantage to stop having to run bootcamp.. I switched to mudlet. then I found out I could run mush on my mac without bootcamp, so I switched it this
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i went with mushclient because it was there.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, i didn't realize that this was mac compatible - that's encouraging since we'll be buying a macbook in the near future (around xmas time)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: and I LOVE all the miniwindows. the layout is awesome
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts gasps as he realizes what Scars did.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: blood traitor
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: its not perfect scars, but it works.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nothing is perfect
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it helps if you have new versions of Wine though instead of the quite old precompiled binary I have on the download page
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, having used zmud or cmud for the last 13 years, it's going to take me a long, long time to get used to this
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: speak for yourself Fiendish. (*smirk*)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'd been using zmud for many years before switching to mushclient
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: oh Fiendish.. when I upgraded to Mountain Lion, my mush broke. I had to upgade my X11. was weird.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that makes sense to me
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: at least it told me so was a faily easy fix.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but only because the Wine on mac situation is kind of...strange
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is it a gmcp limitation that prevents me from being able to see every mob i'm fighting in the "status" ?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mostly the wine development team doesn't have anyone who uses a Mac who wants to be their package maintainer
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Scars: currently yes
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thought so, thanks again
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think there were plans for an enemygroup at some point
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but it may have been sidelined
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's a "nice to have thing" that should take a backseat (like, in the trunk) in comparison to things like subclass development
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I have to run. I'll probably be back in an hour or so.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks for your help fiendish
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, you mapper users out there... if i go through the trouble of matching up portals to rooms and such, will the mapper automatically take me the shortest route, including portal dropoffs?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: <-- has never really used mapper
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: As far as I can remmeber from what xan told me, Scars, Yes.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: As far as I can remmeber from what xan told me, Scars, Yes.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, so the natural followup question is when i want to run to an area (lets just say first room), i'd need to use the mapper to do that, right? and tell it to take me to room # or something?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i used to do on zmud/cmud was have an alias i typed, liek fens, and it'd grab my portal and drop me off, but i manually wrote that alias
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you still need to write an alias to use portals
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, that just makes sense though
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, that combined with mapper help and i should be able to stumble my way through this
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I used a lot of advice from here ... http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use Winkle's mapper extender you can mark other room as as first room
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i.e. that one that portal leads to
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: shouldn't i be able to tell the mapper to take me to whatever room i want?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: scars try the link I just posted
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is difference if you want to get to specific room and if you want to get to first room in area
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i.e. mapper goto room 12200 will use portal regardless of what first room for that area is
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, so i wanted to use a trigger to call an alias, in zmud/cmud i would just type the alias in the "send this" part of the trigger... no such luck with mush... halp!? :)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if you want to get to area then you use xrt fens instead runto fens - then first room is important
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set to execute
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks thanks!
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hulu = Evil.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: now do i turn on the 256 colors?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for the extended colors
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: on mush
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sorry :P that could have all been one line
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sammael Tech: tried xterm?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: blah, thanks, somewhere along the line i turned it off
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sammael Tech: :)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: okay, if i want to make a "wink"-face with mush, how do i get that to happen... when i just tried, it acted like i wanted to send a multi-line command
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: use ;; instead of ;
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ";tech here is a wink face ;-)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: tech here is a wink face ;-)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: wow, okay, that'll take some getting used to
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: thanks :D
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starting a line with ; makes that line ignore all other ;s
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as huan says, you can double a ; to make that ; be sent normally as well
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: abe, could you shoot me a tell real fast-like
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why can't you shoot him a tell real fastlike?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: he's invis and i am nublet without detect invis
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aard helms ftw.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: mine's level 3, ftl
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 1k qp gets it to level 1. ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why bother for the two lowest levels in the entire game?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: almost nobody remembers them actually being there, they go so fast.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you were gonna do that, you'd just q sell for 700 and buy new for 1100
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: end up with the same helm for 400 more instead of 1k more
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: js issue..Math.floor((Math.random()*2)) should work quite well but too often it produces an army of 0s or 1s. the record was 19 0s in a row. the array lenght is 21 so something is messed up here. any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Math.random() generates a number between 0 and 0.99999 right?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seperate out your Math.random()*2 to a previous line and check on it
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: also try Math.random()*2.0
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yep... check the number before you floor it.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: ok. thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Run-time error \\ Plugin: ClanStats (called from world: Aardwolf) \\ Immediate execution \\ [string "Trigger: Rank6Trig"]:1: attempt to index field 'Ani' (a nil value) \\ stack traceback: \\ [string "Trigger: Rank6Trig"]:1: in main chunk
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: from the script at the bottom of: http://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/scripts/
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anything obvious why someone else is getting those errors? ran fine for me
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Gah, can't seem to ssh anywhere on my box. Not really sure which device to configure to let this through :/
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Interesting, never thought of using nc to look at SSH traffic before.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: when I right click on a room in mush that has a cexit, I cant see it.. how can I delete a messed up cexit?
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Mapper help.
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: "mapper delete cexits"
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Has apple remove youtube from the iphone yet?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: my autohunter doesent work it sends the comand xmapper move 25938 then the mud returns that is not a command please help
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "my autohunter" is.. not very specific. its one you wrote yourself? using someone elses?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Have you installed all of Winkle's scripts?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: to one winkle scrypt the s$d one thhe top one doesent want to work on my mush brings up error message
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: maybe it's a sign. just play without it for a while.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: could you theoretically make a planes-escaper that takes random exits until it finds the room ID you arrived in?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: or would that be entering into botting territory
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I guess it's not really different to an autohunter
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't see that being much different from a autohunt script, but I would check with a imm, it is kind of borderline imho
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I think I will not go ahead with that one
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: the problem with that is that the planes mobs can aggro you...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: so you are using to automatically walk between aggro's (albeit that was not the original intent)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: bah - using a script - you know what I meant :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I see your point
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any script would have to abort if aggroed, that applies to autohunt as well. Haven't seen any autohunt scripts, but I assume they abort when you get aggroed.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Considering that you're stopped, most of the time, they do since the trigger line doesn't fire next.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: besides there are easy ways to navigate the planes :)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic nods at Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: You get the message about not being able to hunt while fighting.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Dispel Majic.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you know the order of the planes by layer, you can navigate it a bit more easily.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: can i buy somebody elses database or is it ilegan . like rooms explored
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ilegal
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: define 'buy'
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: Spyinfo : Lasher takes out his nuker and marks Topbilling's head.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: like for gold on aard i ask coz i dont want to get nuked
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if somoene wants to sell it to you, then it's fine.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Besides, it can't be monitored, regardless.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: o ok coz i got a offer for a database with 98% explored for verry cheap
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I didn't know 98% explored was even possible
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then that would make 100% impossible, which is just ridiculous.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: manors don't count as explorable rooms?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: rank 15. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Rooms can be marked noexplore. Manor areas are all noexplore.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i take it a full database will help alot with a autohnter?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really, Topbilling.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Autohunters don't rely on databases.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: auto-hunt-tricker perhaps
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: but it will have the rooms i dont now coz when i try autohunt in an area i havent explored i cant find the room as oposed to one i have 1005 on
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: people dont give databases away do they? lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if your autohunt won't work in an area you have'n explored you have a bad autohunt
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im using a s&d
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: so yeah, i also installed S&D a month ago when i started playing.. and had the same xmapper problems.. anyway.. re enabled it now ( the tripple pack)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: .... what a joke :P lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i also had the same prob but somehow i googled winklewinkle aardwolf plugins and the s&d there works 100%
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: Type 'go
' or click link, to go to that room
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: miss
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: top billing did you figure it out?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: almost thing is i have a s$d but sometimes when i try to find a mob it sais that room not found can it be because i dont have it explored?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: thats exactly why yeah
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: si if i buy a database with 98% explored it wont do it anymore?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: it will only find rooms you have explored, so the more you explore, the better
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: ROFL, umm.... i suppose not no :/
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: why?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: when you buy a database won't you get a problem with portals?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: portals would be a problem im sure..
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tought so too
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: how do you meen?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: unless u had the portals in your inv..
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the database will most likely use portals to get to the destination. If you don't have them it'll fail
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: thanks for telling me
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: solution? don't be lazy and build up your own mapper database.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: well i dont think it would fail completely, it may look for the the quickest run route, or you may have to runto dungeon first
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... another solution ... get more portals :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: probably easier to change a few portals than map 98% of the mud
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: buying a mapper should be considered cheating :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol now im lost lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there a way to assign a room a nickname ?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: like room 30525 where you can get potions in bard clan hall ... assigning a nickname bardpots to make it easier to remember
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: make an alias
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that will make an awful clutter of aliases :/
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how many Lua coders are here atm?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I dabble
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm looking to add commas to my Gold amount in the aard_statmon_gcmp.xml file. I'm curious how to add the commas() function from commas.lua to the following line: {text=string.format("%s",gmcpval("worth.gold")), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]},
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm not sure of the Lua syntax. I haven't spent any real time studying it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: require "commas" and commas(gmcpval("worth.gold")) ?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: i would try just wrapping gmcpval("worth.gold") with commas() and if that fails, then put require "commas" somewhere
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so after the "%s," section? commas.lua is required in that xml already
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: {text=string.format("%s",commas(gmcpval("worth.gold"))), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]},
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: string.format works like ("%s", "exact text to replace %s with")
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I'll try that. Thanks for the insight
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: no probs, gnight
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: hmmm, no commas in gold amount. Any other Lua coders in here atm?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you want? :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm trying to utilize commas.lua in aard_statmon_gcmp.xml to format the gold amount to include commas. I'm not sure of where to put the commas() function in the string.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do you have a commas function to even use?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it's in the default lua folder and it is required in the xml file
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: Daik, i just copied the line scurvy typed and replaced the exisiting with it - worked fine.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Using your default script prefix (usually \\\, I think, in MUSH), try printing commas(12345)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, try commas(tonumber(gmcpval("worth.gold")))
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It could be that gmcpval reports a string and not as a numeric type.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Although looking at the commas.lua file, it shouldn't matter.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm not getting any commas. Should I move the commas.lua file into the plugins directory?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It shouldn't matter.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The Lua path will check the Lua subfolder for matches.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: here's my line. Is my syntax right? {text=string.format("%s",commas(gmcpval("worth.gold"))), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]},
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know if that syntax is right for whatever you're trying to do in MUSH, but if the commas(12345) didn't spit anything out, then it's not recognizing the commas function. Have you tried: print(commas) to see if it returns a function type?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: running to a quick meeting. Let me know if it looks right and what else to check. Thanks guys
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, I'm going to sleep. But if print(type(commas)) does not return 'function' then there's an issue there.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: Daik, for when you get back - yes, you're line is identical to mine. Issue must be elsewhere, as Etzli says.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: meh. your* (before the nazis commnet :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: say i bought a database how would i install it?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ask the person you bought it from
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: as luck woulod have it he is linkdead lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: back
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how can I make rbid stuff show up in the communication log pane?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how/where do I do a "print(type(commas))" test? do I write a script with just this in it?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click comm window
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: capture other info, rauction
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: print(type(commas))?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Hi Abel. I'm working on adding commas to the gold amount in aard_statmon_gcmp.xml. My syntax is correct but I get no commas. I want to test if commas.lua is being called.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commas() is a function, and you must include the commas.lua file
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: abe i have gotten a mush mapper database how would i go about installing it?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: topbilling: You walk the areas to explore :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: commas.lua is included in Fiendish's script. Others have verified that the syntax is correct in {text=string.format("%s",commas(gmcpval("worth.gold"))), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]},
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: yah but i have the database now how do i install it?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as far as I'm concerned, topbilling, you don't
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: figured it out. I was only adding commas to the stacked=1 section, not both orientations
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: can somebody please help me i bought this database and i tried installing it but i think im doing it wrong can somebody please help me i payed all my gold?tps for it please
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: its a mapper database
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: please guys its 1 file aardwolf.db i dont know how to get it to work
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I would assume you copy it like you would in the client update notes on the website
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got it via email and i deleted all files in the mush folder and downloadede the file ito that folder but i only have my normal explored and the mapper is thesame the new file is like 18mb
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but it does not increase explored number, just mapper have more rooms
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i get that but mapper also doesent have more rooms
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Why do you want your mapper to have more rooms
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: can you enable/disable a trigger in MC from the commandline?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and how do you know it has no more rooms than your original mapper?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: to make the pluggin work better
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you want more rooms for campaigns and gquests
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Which plugin
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daiko: \\\EnableTrigger("Triggername", 0)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will disable the trigger with the name (label) of Triggername
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: moral of the story: don't buy mapper databases...you want a mapper database, get off your ass and explore :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: awesome thank you. I was thinking of making a trigger to QUIT when my quest timer has hit 0
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: buying a mapper database? that sounds like it'd be on the wrong side of policies
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (or at least get off your ass enough to read how to migrate mapper databases, directions for which are right on aard's main website)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: then again an you enable/disable timers the same way?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: well said =D
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typ, there's EnableTrigger, EnableTimer, EnableTriggerGroup, etc
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: where can I get info on commandline options like these for MC. Without getting off my ass of course...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that should've started "Yup"*
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: help->function list
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helps are very good in mushclient
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're just regular functions. You can call any of them from the command line
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "\\\" at the start of a line means "treat this as a script to run"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's defined (and can be changed by you) as your "script prefix" in settings
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: says the help file isn't available
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm runnig r1667 snapshot
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you running Vista/W7?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't install helpviewer by default
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: win7 64.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 for details, including links to the downloads
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that the one from mickeysoft's site?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: beat me to it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the helps are also available as html files in a zip, and are viewable as html directly on mushclient's site
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that helpview was already installed. I thought I did for another app once. I'll go to MC's site for them
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that's installed, then you have everything you need...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking on the helpfile in the mushclient folder and going to properties...see if there's an "unblock" button
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the same setting that can cause Windows to ask if you really want to open MUSHclient itself every time you click on it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: when using potionquafferv2 how do i make sure it is able to see the pots in my bag ?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use aard-side page scroll, make sure that the potion names & descs are set...type "pquaff help"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: do a lot of people use an amulet of aard for quicker routes?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if by "a lot of people" you mean pretty much everyone that's not a nub, yes :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: lol :) Abe i wuv u
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: YOU GOT A! Wittle giggles.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you want good speedwalks, yes.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other advantages to it are the ability to get to a healer for a dissolve, and 12 stats in a level 1 item isn't too shabby
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: true true :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: potionquaffer plugin how do i make the plugin see my potions ? it isnt finding them
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h 15"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ive done the part of setting the potion names
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming it's the one I used like 5 years ago: did you set the bag, and then type pots?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And what happens when you type pots?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i even get the messages ...(Group) Imalish: 'I have 0 Heal Pots Total! (Potion_Quaffer Plugin)'
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you set both the name and the desc for the pots?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "noobjl"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pattern does not look like the level is optional
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: no good
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: PotionQuaffer: Heal Potion = melody PotionQuaffer: Heal Description = (Magic) (Hum) Soothing Melody (40) PotionQuaffer: Heals Remaining = 0
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's still the same version of the one I used, I think the format of the level, or something about how items are shown had changed since the plugin was written.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, don't put the magic, hum, etc into the desc
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Pretty sure you don't need to do the flags
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just Soothing Melody
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have your potions in a bag?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: When you type pots, does it show your regular inventory or the contents of the bag?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: removed all tags ... magic/hum and level same deal
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: shows contents of bag
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: got 40 heal and 35 mana pots in bag
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: here is what is is for the elixir, mine is set to: PotionQuaffer: Heal Description = Jade Elixir
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think the format for the number of items might have changed.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I remember something changed a few years ago
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you don't need flags, you don't need level, where did you get the plugin?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... :P i got it from your site when i asked about them
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I don't think that's the one that I used to use, then
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: where does that potion come from?, I can't find it on potsearch
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: potsearch cure crit
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bard's level 40 heal pot
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "healdesc Soothing Melody" works for me, can you try it with shortflags toggled?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: they show up with short flags
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and it shows the inventory of the bag when you type "pots"?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: lots of portals in my bag so a touch spammy
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you put any spaces at the end of "Soothing Melody"?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: please type this one more time and then try again "healdesc Soothing Melody" (without the quotes)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: kk so those show up
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: what about touchstone's mana pot ?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: same setup as the one I just told you, you just need the potion name
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "ident "...copy the part just after Name :, paste it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: (>Touchstone<) Green Garnet Gem Extract
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make sure you don't include any spaces at the beginning or the end of the potion though
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: why doesent my aarwolf.db file want to work
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... top you may have gotten screwed :/ ... easiest just to build mapper's room db yourself
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well the file is larger like 15mb but it doesent work
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: now im worce off my mapper is stock!!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just because the file is larger doesn't mean there's more rooms in it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think I know why it's not working, but I don't see why you should benefit from it :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: copy one of the backup files over the corrupted one
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Bast, he can't he just bought the mapper file
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one that "doesn't work" is one that he bought from another player...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, he has backups from his previous one, i assume
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless he deleted the backups
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and he deleted everything rather than just moving them
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hahahaha, awesome, missed that part of the convo
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that was stupid :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: err. ouch. sorry bout no backups..
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i dont have backup fieles and abe please i payed all the gold i had for it please
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's whatcha get for trying to take the easy way out/shortcuts :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: can reinstall and get that db though.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he can't get his old one back, if he really deleted it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: just unzip and put it somewhere and pull out the db file. empty but...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: go get a new mush install.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he said the one he has now is stock
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: you guys are seposed to help not be nasty i payed 17mil all i had
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ah. k. well, i'm coming in late.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a new mush install is where he should've put the bought db, leaving his existing install intact ;-)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: probably yup.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: well, 17 million is no big deal. go earn it back.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: and lesson learned. not sure there's much we can do about the lost db.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: To be short Topbilling, I think you're screwd and lost the mapper
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: did you lose the one you got?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im new at this this is why am asking for help
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're new at cheating? :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, 17 mil isn't much, a good mapper db would sell for hundreds of millions
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: how is it cheating?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: My mapper DB rocks ass. If you use it with SnD, everything is instant. And I'm not selling it for a single penneh.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im not here for your shitty coments you are seposed to help and afry one of you have made a mistake and you dident get craped out!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i couldnt even get Cera's mapper to work for cupcake, and I am both, so I did all the work. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm supposed to help? Oh REALLLLY now
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: watch the language, too
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: ...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: they don't have to help you and being a jerk doesn't help your case, topbilling
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Topbilling: It is quite easy to build a DB by yourself :) Just map out every area you get to. It takes about 5 minutes.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: who on earth did he buy it from?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: Plus, by doing it you'll learn each area fairly well, and not worry about having everything in your mapper db.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: we are not SUPPOSED to help
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: using the mapper doesn't mean you don't need to know the area i've found .
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: it takes far from 5 minutes in the later zones
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: run here, get this, wear that, sit down, stand up, fondle a duck, climb a rope, put a feather in your hat, poof now the door is open
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat fondly fondles Tangel.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: hehe :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: frakking ducks!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: NO U DON'T UNDERSTAND I DESERVER ALL UR DATABASE
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't be elitist, send me ur mapz!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: besides, mappers will be nerfed soon. You will only need to explore 70% of the rooms in an area to get the complete map if you are T0,T1 or T2.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok is there maby a website i can download a ok db not awsum but better than stock pst i have 1mil left ill pay for help
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: lol, a whole million?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Sorry Topbilling, Only dbase is the stock one.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i lost my other gold
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: topbilling: the mapper tells you what rooms you still have to explore...use that to explore areas to get further than the stock
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok so I don't think I'm getting this weapon switcher script setup right. I'm using Bast's aardwolfweaponswitch. I have set my w1=axe and w2=dagger and using w1. It still doesn't rearm when disarmed. What am I missing?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: its really not the end of the world to make your own DB, im making my own and it works well combined with the CP/Quest add-on thing I fly through campaigns and quests
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: sure I have a lot of errors from passing through doors i should have made exits for, but still works better/faster than just running around with nothing
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type "w list" it says that your current is axe? how/where are you getting disarmed?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hey bast when after i got your plugins something odd started popping up ... every time i kill a cp mob it shows the cp check twice :/ any clue why it does this and how i can disable it ?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably have two plugins that do the same thing loaded
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe a bast and a winkle, or two of bast's that do the same thing
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Current Weapon = 'axe'. Last time I got disarmed was this morning and I forget the mob
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is disarming different per mob?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you loaded every plugin from the folder, I don't remember which ones overlap at this point.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I remember when I had to type "Wield " after being disarmed... those were the days...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's different if it's a special disarm and not a real disarm...some MOBs program their disarms
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i tried disabling each of the ones that mention cps and still did it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have a 'wa' alias set for wield axe lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: and I don't have my gloves yet :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have any other plugins installed beside mine and the standard ones?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I had a DISARMS you trigger set but it quit working at some point as well. Must be mob related
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: copy color output, container sort, 3moons, the default ones, winkles,and yours
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's and bast's are probably both doing it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: winkle also has a campaign plugin, so his overlaps with mine
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: by the way Abel, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my commas issue. I have only changed the 'stacked=1' section, not both. It's working fine
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I saw you mention that, glad it's good to go :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nah i had winkles before basts ... a few days/weeks ... and it only showed the modified snd cp list on cptarg kill
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm using bast's events miniwin and winkle's S&D
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using Trurien's 10-finger CP assistant.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: hunting in mapped areas is a breeze
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Some people call it a keyboard.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Looks like Sit like a Trurien is lying again. Time to let everyone know!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah that took me a sec lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien shrugs in response to your question.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think 30 minutes for an SH CP is fast, you think I'm lying? :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, Trurien sold topbilling the database, I knew it!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I would have given him money to take my solution :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: note to the techs: do not keep MC on dropbox. It messes up state files.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: unless you pause syncing while the client is running
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: where would i add an alias that has been already made? but its in code?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you mean edit?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can have more than one alias with the same name if they're in different plugins...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: can you Reinstall a plugin from the commandline? The bast events miniwin blacks out at times. Reinstalling fixes it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: usually restarting mush fixes it too
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: so.. randomly today this screen started poppigng up to register my computer which i've had for a few years, any idea how to make it stop showing up? it doesn't respond to clicking any of the links
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: sounds like a scam
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: malware bytes?>
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: and run it in safe mode
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What kind of 'screen' ?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: it looks like a legit dell restration screen
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: run the MB chameleon on it. Best in the business.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: level
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: just did a print screen not sure where I can post it for everyone to see
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: imgur.com works
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: any free image hosting site will work
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: take a look at this Arystul http://en.community.dell.com/dell-groups/new-to-community/f/3511/t/19272174.aspx
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: I just upgraded MUSH (finialy) and I bought 50 jades, and I got 50 lines, all like this "{invitem}853197149,MH,Jade Elixir,60,8,1,-1,-1"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how do I not see that?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I capture info to put in a miniwindow? I want to make a board mssage count monitor. I need a good resource for this type of script/plugin.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Cupcake, I'm looking it up, but I imagine it's one of the tags bits... but normally one of the addons catches/consumes that line
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cupcake, it's "invmon"...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: thanks abe.. but what do I do?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to not see it, either type invmon to turn it off, or load in an inventory plugin that uses it (bast's eqdb, for example)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: type invmon
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ah, ok. tthanks
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins that use tags, also hide them so you don't see them
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: should I check out bast's eq plugin? I dont currently use any eq plusin
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd check out all his stuff by reading the pages on each plugin on the wiki tab of his site, to decide if you want to try 'em
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daikojun: we've discussed the multiple ways to go about this already, including pros and cons of each...you can either try to increment/decrement counters as you read notes/new ones come in, or you can have it periodically type "board" to cap that output, or a combination of the two, such that it sending board re-sync's...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for just straight capturing to miniwin, I'd copy the ascii map plugin and change its pluginID...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: My loss is how to capture the output of the boards.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is it normal for companies to prevent (non-administrative) users from /reading/ anything from the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry tree? it seems a bit irregular to me, and, although i can work around it in my own code, i'm a bit hesitant to hack an external API my program calls because of it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not beyond the realms of possibility
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prevents people installing software
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Restricting programs from reading the registry defeats a lot of the purpose the registry... most programs that require installation in the OS store some values in the registry
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun: that's why I suggest copying the ASCII map plugin...that's what it does...everything between START and END gets captured
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: well, write access would prevent installs.. read access seems excessive (in my case, i call an HP function that stores path information there)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah, I'm seeing that now. Thanks for the help, Abel
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye nods at Xantcha.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye: if your thing is an installed thing, have the installer set perms on its portion of the HKLM/software/foo
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why it seems weird to me
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hmm.. suppose that is possible, but not necessarily maintainable since i'm referencing another program's entries as well (they could change things)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: will try that abelinc.. thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: how would one map something like necro guild? where you have to be taken down by a zombie first?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: just wait it out then type mapper resume I guess
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Check out the goal.. might make that part ezier faster
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Only thin I have found that truly stops the mapper... is a good random exit maze.. or random exits with portals
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: everything else can cexitd or use a goal to help with.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I see the issue with bast's disarm script and me. It doesn't know that I'm holding an Aard axe. How do I tell it that?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't need to know that ahead of time, it has a separate trigger for regular weapon disarm and aardweapon disarm
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I dont think that is the issue. An aardweap give a different disarm message. The plugin also triggers on that
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: on disarm, it sends 'wear all'
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: instead of wield
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: wear all also wields weapons
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wear is fine
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: well it didn't wear my axe :/
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it does if I type it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: because its looking for you to be disarmed by a mob as far as i know.. not yourself
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'll only use "wear all" or "wield all" if it doesn't have a "weapon1" value
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Actually I think I have the same problem so I know what you mean. I'll look into it next time I get disarmed.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no what I'm saying, when the script sends 'wear all' it didn't wear my axe
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: i remember mine didnt wield either Daiko... :/
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have a weapon1 value, then it specifically types wield weaponname
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you actually being disarmed for these tests, or are you trying to test it on your own in some way?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Weapon 1 = 'axe' Weapon 2 = 'dagger' Current Weapon = 'axe'
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I was being disarmed by Stone Gladiators
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you received the message "A Stone Giant Gladiator DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!" ?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: idk, the script code looks simple enough. I just don't see why it's not working.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll have to go test it again to see exactly the words
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and did the plugin echo this to your screen?: DISARMED - Attempting to ReArm!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll up, or look in logs...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes it did say that. followed by 'wear all'
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: wow u just set off all my triggers abe :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only place that "wear all" is in the script is in the branch where (1) it was NOT an aard disarm, and (2) there is no cweap
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok totally noobin' out here. My log only shows chat. Is my main window being logged anywhere by default?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at game -> configure -> logging
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there any way of not saving changes i have just made? lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there anyway to change an existing mapped portals keyword name? instead of redoing everything?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: mapper help portals
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes, you can change the alias and then change the portal name that mapper calls?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: get sqlite.exe and you can mess with anything... mapper interface only allows you to delete a portal and record it again, as far as I know
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: can anyone help me with an alias quickly?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: can anyone explain to me why you would have to put the level of a portal into the mapper?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because you can't hold it before then, obviously
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so it knows not to use it when you're not high enough level
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I'd guess so that it knows when it can start using it to find shortest paths.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: so it doenst try to use it whne you're too low level
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: haha doh :P obviously
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: have a brain fart there? :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: either that or.... :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is there an auto-afk plugin for mush? one that keeps spells up as well
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there was one a long time ago. I'm sure you can find it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How can you tell whether or not your iPhone 4S is CDMA or GSM? I don't really know that CDMA is, but I'm having my screen replaced and apparently the CDMA and GSM models have different screen sizes.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're mistaken, Apple products do not fail
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Googling my model number gets me conflicting statements on what kind of phone it is.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if they have different screen sizes, you could probably measure it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you take it apart and get a part number?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: Which country are you in?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sweden.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: Do you have a SIM card?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: A Prince Runner-like site seems to imply that it's CDMA, but I still don't know what the heck CDMA is.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. I have one of those mini (micro?) sim cards. It has the little tray that slides out if you poke a thin needle-like thing into a hole.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you have a SIM card then it is GSM.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doews tha mean it's GSM?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It's a crappy version of W-CDMA. Think of it as a 3G standard.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: CDMA do not have SIM cards.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: Fiendish is right.,
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what do they use instead?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is hard wired in the cellphone.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess there's no real reason cdma couldn't use a sim card, though
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So my iPhone 4S is a GSM phone using W-CDMA? But for the purposes of differentiating between CDMA and GSM, it's to be classified as GSM?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why do you say it's "using W-CDMA"?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because that's what some sites are telling me. Also ElFeneri.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: CDMA does not exist in Sweden. So what good would it be to have CDMA-modems in phones sold there?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently, there is no 64 gB version of the CDMA model of iPhone 4S?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i've never heard of a cdma phone with a sim card anyway
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not to mention, why own an iPhone anyway?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: There's no need for sim-card in CDMA-networks
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't agree that there's no need. You may want contact portability without cloud storage.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh well, that clinches it. I just wanted to make sure so I didn't buy a useless conversion/replacement kit.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Well, let's put it this way. It's not needed to have a sim-card in those networks.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently, there are CDMA phones with sim cards, mainly used in China.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Those would be TD-SCDMA?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: That is not CDMA. They are R-UIM.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: in China they have yet another version of the 3G networks.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is equivalent, but not the same.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So many region specific variations of pretty much anything related to electronics. Why not just have a world standard?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The reason I would guess CDMA is used by Verizon and Sprint is to keep people from flipping between cellphones and locking them into that phone through the contract. In addition, individuals have to buy their CDMA cellphones.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Standard is good. Everyone should have their own.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: for the same reason europe use metric while the US doesn't :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because the U.S. is stupid like that.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I heard that they are converting to metric system in UK. Inch by inch.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The Imperial System is one of the most arbitrary and stupid systems of measurement ever. It has no rhyme or reason.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: very droll, ElFeneri
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, Verizon was smart like that and uses it to their advantage.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: metric is good for science, and for lazy and arithmetically inept people
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "A kind once decreed that there should be a measurement equal to the length of his foot and, thus, the foot was born".
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I think the U.K. uses both Metric and Imperial? Don't they have "bi-lingual" road signs or something?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: imperial and similar units existed because they were useful measures of the time for the purposes they were used for
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, road signs are in miles and mph
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, but they are severely outdated now and outclasses by the Metric System.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that statement is a fallacy
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Metric is more exact then US Customary anyway.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: but the real answer to your question probably is that it'd be too expensive to make a country change their whole infra structure just to make all phones have the same type of network :)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outdated would imply that their usefulness ended
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outclassed implies metric is better for the purposes they are used for
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Ashiya, sure is, but when a new generation is born - why keep up the diversity? :)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: neither statement is true
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: because you build on what you already have
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Ashiya, that's why it's called a new generation. It's not built on previous standard.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I suppose then it's not convenient to have the same standard in every country
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Good Idea: Metric! Bad Idea: US Customary!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: differing standards in different countries enables there to be control over what is sold where
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Of course it's convenient. But some companies want to develop their own version of the standard.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why you have 5 dvd regions
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: sure, it also enables you to crash probes into mars
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Why they still teach the US standard system.. is a good question x.X
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: different TV standards
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am going to get a All region DVD player.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imperial is hardly the "US" standard system
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i'd imagine they teach US Standard in US because it's used there
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: learning non-standard measurements is an excellent way to teach young kids arithmetic
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: I think it helps the upper class to keep an economic division. If someone cant calculate there crazy messed up measuring system.. they can only do grunt work.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: and according to Bush it's very good, they have the best educated americans in the world :)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I find US Customary to used so we are not Great Britian.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: quite honestly it's not at all difficult to calculate in whichever system you're raised using. just like the russian alphabet is weird if you're used to a latin alphabet but totally normal if you're, say, russian.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you want convoluted, check out UK currency prior to 1970
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1 pound = 20 shillings
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: 12 pence in a shilling, twenty shillings in a pound, what's not to love? it provided fodder for torturing generations of primary school children with sums :D
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1 shilling = 12p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Majic, the Metric system is more effective than the Imperial system.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The US has a 1/2 cent.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there existed 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/12, and 1/24 of a pennies
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there also existed 2p, 3p, and 6p coins
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: For example, ask someone to convert 12 kilometers to meters and it'll take only a split second. Ask them to convert 12 miles to feet and it'll take them much longer.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There exists $2 bill US.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as well as 1 shilling coin (bob) 2 shilling (florin) 2s 6p (half crown) 5s (crown) and many others
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If we go a step further (12 kilometers to centimeters vs. 12 miles to inches), the time difference will be much higher.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: There's a coin named after me?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat beams with pride.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, I meant to say efficient, not effective, obviously.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bob, you were a planet, but they renamed it.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people still use "bob" as a slang for the british pound, bob
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The name was too good, right?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bobbies is for police....does that mean they were many pounds?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nods, but for all practical purposes where instant calculations are needed, you can approximate it by 5000 feet, etc.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the old money, pence were abbreviated as "d"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: d for denarii
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: from the Roman denari
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: How many grams in a pound.. we estimate 448.. but its not exact.. its some odd number 448.xx wtf is that :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But, Majic, sometimes a 280ft/mile can be too much.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't change the fact that there's no logical reason to use the Imperial System over the Metric System, Majic.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: 280ft/mile error, that is
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: No, other than that everyone's used to it and no pressing reason to change for the US.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not true, yuna
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no reason for all telecoms not to use fibre optic
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And what, pray tell, would be the logical reason to stubborn stick to Imperial over Metric besides laziness (and the cost of converting road signs)?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no reason for all pc's not to be 64 bit
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: none, really.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cost, familiarity
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah, Tiger, there is no reason. The same way there is no reason we are still using the Imperial system.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they are not illogical reasons
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Why not everyone convert to US Customary instead!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The United Kingdom has already begun their journey to Metric. It's pretty much only road signs and certain containers of drinks left, apparently.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the road to metric in the UK ended some years ago
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: pretty much. although nothing's been added recently
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, it ended in a bunch of lawsuits
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nobody's asking you to do it overnight. But you're stubbornly refusing to even consider it. Because... it would be un-American?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I heard someone once say in UK, "we use Imperial in summer for temperature, and Metric in winter, it makes it easier to complain."
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: metric makes the most sense. base 10. why have arbitrary numbers for different measurements.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: road signs/speeds will remain in miles. Food can be sold in imperial provided it is also labelled in metric
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: If the standard system hindered global corporations profit, it would be changed fast. Since it doesnt... nobody who has power gives a damn.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I have absolutely no input into whether it's used or not.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It took how long to get to the Base 10 number system for the world?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think everyone should switch to base 7.5,
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: nah, everyone needs to switch to binary
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The largest cultures used different systems. Babylonians used a base 60 system.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but it's not something for me to get worked up over either, frankly I don't care because there are other things to worry about politically.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i certainly wouldn't advocate forcing everyone to change just because some commie said so
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Why not an irrational number base, suck as e or pi? Then it would be much more interesting converting between imperial or metric systems.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: there's an old IT joke, there are 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How about base i? O_o
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Imaginary bases FTW!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: can you make change for pi?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: like base i?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: more like make change for pie amiorite
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Every number has an infinite number of representations in base i :)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: all your base are belong to us.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think complex numbers base would be more interesting than just imaginary.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Complex Number for the win. They include real and imaginary numbers!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: But we use a combination of what has been said here, -10e^(pi*i) as base.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic sniggers at ElFeneri's actions. Maybe you should REPORT the idjit.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ElFeneri, that's not a complex number :P
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: yes it is, a complex number with imaginary part 0
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Nope, that's the base most use in their everyday life
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But I only care about complex numbers with an imaginary part != 0 >:(
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: just because you don't care about them doesn't maen that they don't exist!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and it contains two irrational numbers an imaginary number and a minus. Yet it becomes 10.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: quit beautiful
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Y + U*pi*ed + me
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: quite
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think a+bi is simple enough.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone had issues with the wireless card in their asus netbook?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, I need to not just glance at things sometimes...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: haha
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Otherwise, words that are otherwise innocent become... not so innocent.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sounds like a fun game.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Always. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: i am setting up a new phone plan & will recieve a new #. will that effeect my aard game in anyway (login, level, anything)?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: i will be switching phone too. does that impact anything?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Again, no.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: thank you!
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Your player profile is on a server that only Aardwolf can access. Nothing you do (switch phones, computers, ISPs, houses, continents, worlds, universes) will affect your player her.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'll be switching doctors. Will that affect my aard experience?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, yeah. Switching doctors is the only thing that can.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If it's a psychiatrist.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on what medicines you are prescribed.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks for reminding me, Daloran.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. My girlfriend just left me, how will this affect my total trained stats?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli just saved 15% on his levels by switching to Geico.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daloren: your wisdom just went up, but you constitution went down
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nice
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I replace a portal when using xrt?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Huh?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It will automically use a portal if you've added it to mapper
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: you can try runto (dungeon name) and go from there.. sometimes its close enoigh to skip the portal
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I replaced a portal that led to labyrinth and when I use one to an area close by it tries to use the old portal num
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: update your alias or whatever
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: mapper portals see if its still there
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ahh i see, it didnt replace the old one just added a new one
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I make an alias refer to a mapper command, tried a direct link with a variable and its saying unknown command
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thanks again
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone use madcatz container sort plugin for mush? mine isnt working
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How are you using it?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: lget container min level max level
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: sort isnt working either
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What's the errror
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: it shows that it works but doesnt get the items out or sort them
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Reinstalling might help
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I presume it needs the invmon tags active, though I have no idea if it's testing for that and enabling as needed. Are yours on?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It doesn't, Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does your prompt end in %c?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses invdata, not invmon
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have prompts off?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes it ends in %c and I have them on
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Only problem I've seen with it not working is for people with prompts off.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Which I was too lazy to fix
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: when I use it, it says item num the name of item with color code for each item and lget done
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Are you sorting items in your inventory, or in a bag?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: in a bag
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: satchel in this case
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: The watchmen/crusader/whatever one?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod crusader one
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: tried it with testament and aardbag too
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see the id of the bag when you use the sort command?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: the identify output, I mean
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes, first line says invdata bag id
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: it acts like its working perfectly, just doesnt do anything
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I mean the entire output, like when you type 'identify bag'.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see that when you try to sort?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no, just that line then the item numbers of every item in the bag along with color codes
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Nods, that's invdata...but that should all be gagged.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I may have downloaded an ancient version
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see "sorting done" immediately when you use the command, or does it take a while?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: There's only one version
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Should've been some more, but I never got around to them
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oh, it says sorting done right after all the rest of the stuffs
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does the plugin handle the rawcolors change?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: what rawcolors change?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: invdata always showed rawcolors. invdata ansi was new, but don't think it changed invdata
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: And I've gotten tells from people in the last week or two that haven't had problems with it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: did they do a direct download from a link or copy/paste to notepad?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Try turning prompts off and back on and try it again? Other than that, I don't know what the problem might be
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I usually tell people to copy/paste to notepad
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: because you get some extra/different characters than intended sometimes if you don't
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok, thats what I did, and when I type prompt it said sorting, turned them back on and it says sorting done
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the < and > get messed up if you just d/l the gdocs, but it wouldn't let it install if those were still messed up
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Sounds like it's stuck somewhere it shouldn't be. I'd make sure I had prompts on, then reinstall it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Modkit Madcatz nods at you in agreement.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what are you using the prompts for?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not, he's trying to not show them during the sort
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I turn them off so you don't get 200 prompts while it's sorting
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: And then I rely on the messages from the mud when turning them on/off to know when to start and when it's done
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: not the smartest thing, in retrospect
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok reinstalled, same prob, I also noticed right before it says sorting done I see the line you will no longer see prompts, even though they stay on then sorting done
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should see the "no longer see prompts" line as the very first thing...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Nah, that should be gagged
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last thing should be "You will now see prompts"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see "Sorting..."?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, didn't look for gag, just meant the order of processing should end with them being turned back on, not being turned off
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I gag the "You will now see promtps" line and replace it with "sorting done", and replace the prompts off message with "sorting..."
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: So that first trigger isn't firing
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: well, the first chronologically, the second in that line
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But they're both in the same group and get turned on/off at the same time, so don't know why one would be firing and the other not
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: on a side note anyone know why my line spacing keeps changing? it was every line and through tinkering with the plugin, i.e. reinstalling it and such it is now double spaced
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is mush executionally-sequential or does everything run simultaneously like in ZMud? One of the issues prior to multi-state triggers in ZMud was that trigger speed could cause things to occur out of order, sometimes causing stuff to fire when it shouldn't or not fire when it should.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what plugin did you tinker with for line spacing?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: it's sequential within a plugin (you can specify sequence), but sequence between plugins isn't guaranteed
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no, I was tinkering with the container sort, by reinstalling it and trying it, I just tried sort again and back to single spaced
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: One of the triggers in my plugin gags blank lines
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But should only be on when it's sorting
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But since some triggers aren't firing when they should, it's getting stuck in states where it's not supposed to be in while not sorting
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But that's why
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: so maybe delete it and try a complete reinstall from scratch?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: don't think that'd be any different than just reinstalling it.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod, same response :p
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Probably a stupid question, but you have triggers enabled in game->configure->triggers, right?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the plugin wouldn't be firing if that weren't the case, right?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: probably not. Not 100% sure what happens when a plugin turns a trigger on with triggers disabled, though
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Which might have explained why some triggers were working and not others
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok I got the identify response when I disabled triggers but still not doing anything
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: didnt get the sorting or sorting done messages though, just as if I identified my bag
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: When you try using lget and lput, you see the invdata stuff, too?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: (the list of the contents with the color codes and such)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oh, I mean I did, turned triggers off and I get the identify response
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Nods, you should turn them back on
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Only other thing I can think of is another plugin interefering with it
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: well boo, thats disappointing, seemed like it would be a handy plugin
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: sounds like the trigger that is failing is the one that matches on "{invdata *}"
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what is a good moons plugin? Bast's isn't popping up a miniwin.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ulrich, you aren't using bast's eqdb plugin, are you?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: basts will pop up once you've "seen" all 3 moons
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: dunno, I'll check
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ahh ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'll only see the moons if you have noweather set to see the weather, and if you're in an outdoors-flagged room
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I dont see it, seems like I was using it at one time, but it should show up in the plugin menu, anyway to test for it though?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb plugin uses the invdata stuff, so that could interfere...no reason to have both enabled, though, as bast's gives you lget/lput/sort/etc
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is thre a "unexplored report" plugin for mush?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: shows: 7 areas unexplored, Rooms: 118 of 30025 My rank is 37
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or if fits on channel...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 7 areas unexplored: Gladiator's Arena [3] Council of the Wyrm [1] Crynn's Church [30] Umari's Castle [3] Journey to the Inferno [29] Oradrin's Chosen [26] Nyne Woods [26] Rooms: [118 of 30025] My rank is 37
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok tried uninstalling madcatz version to check for basts eqdb plugin and it didnt understand commands, so Im assuming no eqdb
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it should show up if installed...look for miniwin_eq and xBroadcast_Inventory could interfere as well
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no none of those
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there anyway to get the saving of databases in mush to NOT take focus out of other windows?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: very annoying when mush alt tabs me out of other windows
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: when it saves my databases mush pulls focus
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose you could try disabling compression
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure what makes it pull focus though
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: on windows?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: if so you probably have your machine set to move to front the window with most recent activity...
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: will it break anything if I use your z_order_monitor stuff (and resetaard) in a non-packaged plugin?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sweet :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ZOrderMonitor#How_do_I_make_my_own_miniwindow_plugins_make_use_of_your_Z-order
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: very descriptive wiki link lol
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think everyone's miniwindow plugins should respect at minimum the resetaard command. especially if they don't put sane location restrictions on dragging
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is there an easy way to convert "\u003cb" (and similar) in Lua?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: convert into what?
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Into readable format, I suppose.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaUnicode
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks. I'll look through that.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Admittedly, I had forgotten what the term was (unicode).
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also https://github.com/LuaDist/slnunicode
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just pulled that up.
T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: mudder.javajman.com if yer on a mac ^_^
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: no i don't have that setting takhsis...mush is the only program that does this
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i don't see where to disable compression
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: am i using an old version?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i see nothing about compression in mapper help
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why would you want to disable compression?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type checkversion
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: backups are faster without compression
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: doesn't understand me
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then yes you are using an old version
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very old
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/detail?name=MUSHclient.zip
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: is there instructions for integrating some aardwolf features into my client?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: your client's helpfile, or the language-manual website.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on your client
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and which features
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: specs I believe is the word I am looking for
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: my client I am building I am working on some help files and just got the MCCP working per specs
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a text game. What features does it possibly have that a client can't handle?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp isn't an aard thing, it's a general MUD thing...
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some clients don't support GMCP
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: such as the map it sends an character to donate the begin and end of a map segment
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcp specs are available on the wiki under client protocols
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I know it's not an aardwolf spec
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help tags
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: tags helps thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are just text...nothing client-specific, you just trigger on text
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: ok I was wondering if there were any extra commands like the negotiations on login
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what client are we talking about here?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: Mudder
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a custom-written one
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's writing it, fiend
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: It's in the app store
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: http://mudder.javajman.com
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for telnet negotiations, aard supports 2...option102 and gmcp
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: info on gmcp is on the wiki, info on opt102 is at http://www.aardwolf.com/blog/category/technical/
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything else is just text and not done in negotiation strings
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: that is very helpful thank you.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I was looking into automapping after I do MXP
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that, the gmcp page on the wiki has everything you'd need
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: cool
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: this is the itunes link http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ocarina/id492597950?mt=8
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no itunes
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I'm sure it will be great
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there any plugin or command to get all certain level items from a bag?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Mush?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: madcatz's bagsort can
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's pretty easy to just seperate gear by bag.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb can as well
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: where can i get madcatz from?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zethien Tech: walmart !
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr&hl=en&pli=1
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: madcatz bag sorter rocks my world
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: is 3500 dpi with a option to switch dpi good enough for first person shooters, for a mouse?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: only kind of games i like to play lately
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: this old one i had wasn't very good
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: what is required to make a script match very specific? for example. i want to shorten mapper resume to mr but not have that get ran if i type mrank.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias has to be in your client, not in aard
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: yes. it is.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd go to game -> configure -> aliases...put "mr" in the top box, put "mapper resume" in the bottom box, and change "send to" to execute
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: sure. still will catch mr and run it with mrank.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it won't trigger on anything except "mr"...not " mr", not "mr ", not "mrteeth"
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH uses glob matching unless you override that on a per-trigger/alias basis...glob matching is a fully-anchored match
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay. i see. trying it out.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i had regexp = y which was changing how that alias worked. Thanks Abe.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never check checkboxes unless you know what they do :P
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Abelinc's Guide to MushClient and Nuclear Warfare (tm)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (also, absolutely NEVER click the "make regular expression" button...ever :P)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: abe do you know of a way to change the background of a string of text ?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want something to be a regex, then you should write it as one
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: more of a left over from a previous attempt. i tend to write these without clicky clicky most of the time.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: always lick make regular expression and tell everyone your triggers
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: id like to keep colors of text while just setting background
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean like highlighting it and going to display, make highlight trigger?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah a highlight but but like i said keep text color
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: specifically want to change background of lines that have (R) to make background of entire line color #300000
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: id like to keep colors of other things like [TARGET] and [CP]
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the trigger that is made by the highlight...when you're looking at the trigger, there's a drop-down for whether you're trying to change foreground, background or both
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it never hurts to actually open stuff up and look...
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: with cmud/zmud, i could do something like #5 (thing) and it would send (thing) five times - what's the mush equivalent?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some sort of loop
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like for i=1, 11 do end
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, but if i just wanted to type in something real quick, like #5 hammer or whatever, there's no quick and dirty way to do that?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I couldn't find a way
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I wrote a function that passes the number of loops and the commands as parameters
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: could make an alias to do it
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: make a macro that builds the basics and pass it to command line?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or alias like doit x cmds
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can't say that that approach thrills me
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but thanks, that answers my question :)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is mushclient too scaredy to copy that zmud option -- been over 14 years since zmud came out with that -- patent expired
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it wasn't invented by ZMud, fyi.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well alias that does 'lp 5 sob' is easy to make
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 5 and sob being random
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I kinda like cmud's simplicity too
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The only thing wrong with cmud is Zugg.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if zugg is stuck with using Delphi, that may be part of the difficulties zugg encounters with coding cmud
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: His only 'difficulty' is that he won't bother.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can you really blame him tho, not a lot of muds left out there
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, Nick Gammon bothers
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and mush with the built-in aard stuff is hard to beat
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod, I like his voice too
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the Delphi thing is mostly that he's got so much custom stuff that makes CMud great.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if Muds are becoming extinct, blame the avoidance of cookie-cutter characters
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's great about cmud
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: besides the simplicity of some thing
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: s
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it'd be like Fiendish having to totally rewrite Mush again. Unless there's a huge, HUGE amount of benefit potential, Fiendish is definitely going to just laugh in your face for suggesting it.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lol, right, because there's something unique about THAT on a mud versus any other game
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Eh, I tried mush, didn't like it. Have to know lua or be stuck using someone else's plugin, which you have control over modifying. No simple #sub function. Ridiculous spammy colourtell() nonsense to color a freakin word. No thanks.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: very fast text scrolling.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some people just like cookie cutters, those usually aren't in the top competitive bracket in most games tho
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: geh, which you have no control over modifying, is what I meant to say.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like the mapper in zmud/cmud better, i like being able to see all of an area in 1 layer
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I like cookie cutters. Makes it easy to make cookies in interesting shapes
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: awesome, i changed my font from 9 to 10 and now it doesn't wrap properly
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: halp!
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Trez: You know from experience?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye I do
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: have seen it plenty on aard too
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod I miss some cmud stuff :( so much easier to do
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like key/pairs... mush you gotta write it yourself in script, cmud it's all visual and neat
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some Muds are dying because some (deluded nerds) insist that characters must be different to maintain the illusioo of challenge -- those muds that are #1 are temporarily "immune", but those down in the TMC lists are dying from too much diversification
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i like the idea that mush will allow me to make the bestest most undetectablest bot ever, but i have no knowledge with any scriping language that would be helpful in that process... so i use mush because it has all those plugins
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: orrrr.... just look at Fiendish's comm log plugin, it's a thousand and something lines
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...that and i lost all my cmud settings, but that's a different issue
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on cmud it's like 1 line that you write
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I bet it's more from the fact that MUDs are typically years-long affairs to get anywhere.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: down in the TMC lists are just dying because MUDs were a fringe market 10 years ago, and they're even less relevant today
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod cmud corrupted my settings too :p
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: it's only 1k lines because his is doing tons more than that one cmud line
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also it did manage to corrupt my backups, which it made itself
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that happens with any datafile usage.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the original "comm log" in mushclient was extremely short
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: probably Abelinc, but he's creating the whole windo whimself
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: games with universal longlasting appeal are based on skill and everybody starts equal
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, because he wants more power than cmud gave
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: adding scroll slider, making it able to move
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he doesn't have to do that to get the scroll and such
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's prolly same amount of code in cmud, but it's backstage, the user doesn't need to do anything about it
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you create a window on mush, it's just static, can't move, no scroll
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't resize
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's not more than what CMud can do. CMud and Mush are pretty much even on everything involved with fancified text display.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it can, trez
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you can if it's just a stock window, you gotta add more code to make it happen
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get move, resize, scroll, etc with a nice easy call
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not like #win asd
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't get a MINIWINDOW that easily...you get a WINDOW that easily
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it doesn't beat #win asd
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for easy
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: talking about miniwindow
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: zscript is buggy though.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not really.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes really
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: No, it's not.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bugs are just very well known, and people code around them well
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's just a shame that zugg gave up and let mush win.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he has a known bug list
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when asked about it, he doesn't say if/when it will ever be fixed
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which is a bit disappointing
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They'll be fixed just in time for the first MUD's to start up on the first permanent colonies on Ganymede.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zugg has not done much in programming due to the cracking of zMUD and lack of support from people buying his program.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do you compete with free?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he created cmud :P
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has no cracked versions
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also he made people pay for both cmud v2 and v3
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: so... he couldn't do the same for zmud?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: he's the stellar business man that decided to go with a lifetime liscense for the thing
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, which version did he finally stop calling it public beta?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wasn't it one of the later 2.somethings
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with popular fps video games, everybody start equal, and there is no prerequisite of years of improving the character, merely a great fast computer, fast connection, superb controls-layout, fast typing abilities, and mental skills, (and a list of cheat codes - scratch that)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: version 1.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Xyliz you haven't played lot of games, have you :)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Makes you wonder why he did not fix the bugs before adding more stuff.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Lineage 2 progression was about ... 3-5 years for max level
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: muds are fun because of the people, the content just needs to be tolerable
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: d2 was maybe 2 years and more
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when you have irritatingly elitist people, the game is less fun
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye I come to chat, it's nice
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'd like pvp to be back tho
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: LoL has progression too, takes 2-3 months for max level
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Land of Losers?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: kinda :P
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: aka league of legends
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: part of that is just how Zugg is. He hates doing nothing but bugfixes, because it's real boring and almost nobody ever actually goes to the effort of tracking down bugs so he can get them fixed quickly (that and apparently most coders are just dumbasses with lots of buggy shit all on their own for other programmers to not reinvent the wheel with).
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but, most games have a reduced grinding requirement now
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is over a decade behind in video games -- not getting hooked in money-sinks like WoW and other mmrpgs
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: grinding is annoying and serves little purpose
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: up to recently, there was really only 6 people actively beta testing CMud. 6 people, in a crowd of like 75,000 users!
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't really care that it took me this long to get to t6, if they new generation of mudders can get here in 1/100th the time, and that makes them stay and play.. all the better
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Xyliz you should quit living under a rock :)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: spend some money on entertainment
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why would i test software when i want to play a damn game?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't come here to do work, i come here to play a game
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: testing software, not fun
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it feels like work sometimes, having to script plugins for simple crap :(
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i know, i need to set up my speedwalks to areas and stuff
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right now, i have nearly every portal in the game plus some trivias... but what do i use? runto.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't even use the program and I've written 8 plugins :P
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most were decent, the last one was a quick hack job :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if runto wasn't here, i would probably be using emerald or something
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I agree, just explaining why bugfixing is so slow at Zuggsoft. 90% of the bugs fixed in both ZMud and CMud are because someone briefly mentioned a problem and Zugg did all the work in figuring out what broke how.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Scars Make mapper goto aliases for each area using the room number where the portal or beginning of the area is.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: all you need to do, is set some portals on themapper
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: using your actual portals
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then amulet, recall, clanexits
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, right... but first i have to learn how to use the mapper
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and can type xrt ft1, it'd run you there
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and then i have to actually, you now, do it
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well ye
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and that's going to take me far, far longer than runto area, go to mob, kill mob, q complete
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xrt is winkle's mapper extender
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which is 99% of what i do anymore
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye might be, I don't use xrt much
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has you set a "first room" marker in the areas
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if someone else would do all this work, that'd be great :) i pay nothing and offer no benefits and will likely be ungrateful
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which one of you self-loathing techies wants this
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle does...that's why he wrote mapper extender already ;-)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you need to set the portals
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even without setting the portals, it'll be worlds more efficient just using the mapper rather than aard's runto
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just find the time to set the portals, then can use winkle and do fast q
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I wonder when people will start triggering this stuff
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggering which stuff? for quests, you already get the info via gmcp
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the go+kill
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right now it's manual aliases to move and kill
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you trigger those so they aren't called manually, then it'd be a q bot
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, they've been triggering on that stuff for a decade
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how sweet of them :)
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'm way beyond triggers. Currently working on an in-client in-window formatted note editor.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have been a fair number of qbots nuked over the years
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie points at you. How rude!
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I weren't Lasher's alt, I woulda been nuked years ago
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sorry, Turie, Abelinc's not a qbot. Perhaps he's half-qubit, but definitely not qbot.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: If Lasher were you, he would more than likely drink himself into a stooper.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stupor
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he'd be so drunk he won't be able to spell it right
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at her.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Abelinc's the only official bot allowed on live port. Lasher gave Ryan the honors on testport.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, one of these days I may even bot enough to actually use some sort of mapper
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nintendo is making like no money and needs to close out stuff that is draining the company.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, INFO: All please welcome Testtestyes, Aardwolf's newest Dwarf Barbarian!
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is that your multiplay alt? I already reported
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The name OneTesticle is available for use.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't worry, it's OK, I'm using a different IP
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Graveyard GQs are a pain for the nonscript users, even with rip -- is "alias kgyg rip;kill gh" legal, "kgyg" to be manually typed or mouse-buttoned upon arriving at a possible ghast/ghost/ghoul location
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you asking someone to explain how to script a gq bot to work with graveyard
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and if you can't see their twig, it's wrong
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mis :p
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: kiiling the ghast/ghost/ghoul is difficult if the "rip" is not "stacked" before the "kill" command -- slow typers wont be able to kill the mob until night
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Korridel I think Xbox is about the only one that is really making any money overall on their consoles.
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does mushclient allow you to seperate with ~ aswell as ; ?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: in mush using two(;) is the separator
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not 2 ;, just 1...but you can make it whatever you want
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I make a trigger only fire when I enable it, i.e. an afk tell responder
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: using mush btw
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You will need to use a script, which enables you to set a trigger to 'enabled' or not
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: blah I will have to pass for now then I guess, thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: only at the moment you enable it, or only after you enabled it?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I want to be able to enable it to run after Im gone and turn off when I return
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a #T+ and #T- type thing
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is a case of using 'afk' or 'afk *' as an alias, which toggles the 'enabled' flag of the trigger
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would you just name the trigger and what command to toggle?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for tell autoresponders, you'll also want to program more logic into it, such as only responding to the same person once
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or resonding with a timestamp, that would save someone making you spam
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that reminds me: is there a stock plugin for mush, or a bast one, that handles afk stuff like that?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnableTrigger("triggername", 0)...1 for enable, 0 for disable...to do "trigger class" like z/cmud, use EnableTriggerGroup()
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a tell autoresponder, though, I personally don't use a "type this to enable/disable", I prefer using the idle timer in the client
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: when i usta do it, i liked reading notes when "away" and didnt want to respond :P
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone have any sense about what the most common pagesize setting is?
T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: default is 40 I believe
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in cmud, can one make a macro on the caps lock key?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not even sure why the caps lock key even exists, tbh
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can't.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Easy way to check is to use the GUI, do 'New Macro', then hit the key you want to macro.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: there ARE times when you want to have a bunch of stuff in caps.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did that, was just covering bases in case there was something I didn't know about.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The caps lock key exists, so you can map it to control and avoid hurting your pinky finger by the stupid standard layout
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: s/control/escape/
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that's another option
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting... I tried "#KEY CAPSLOCK {#PRINT {Test}}" in CMUD, and... my zero key now fires...
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: how can i connect to aard through another mobile mud client?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: What are you using now?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: the android app o:
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Blowtorch?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i hate playing in landscapw
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: no its made by the same devolpers thougg
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina giggles.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: or is this blowtorch also :(
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I use blowtorch, and it's ok.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Ah, that's more likely.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: im new.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I see :D
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i already got laughed at
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: lemme check blowtorch, how would i connect with it?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Somewhere there is a blowtorch client that will automatically connect to aard. I'll see what I can come up with.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i have that one
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: "http://www.aardwolf.com/play/android-mud.htm"
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Hmm. It should automatically flip when you move your phone.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: it only plays in landscape
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina twirls a black silk blindfold on a finger with a wicked grin.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: not portrait
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina giggles.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Shoo, you.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: hi reina
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: nope doesnt rotate
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Carce: I'm afraid I'm not aware of any other mobile clients.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I can ssh into my home server to play, but that's fairly round about, and takes some significant set up.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: well do you know this host and port number?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: aardmud.org:23
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: brb ill try a diff client
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Other ports are 4000, 4010,4444, 7777
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Good luck!
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: this one is 23
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: correct
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Yes, but I believe you can get here on any of those.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: yay i got it working
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i think
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Good deal. What did you end up using?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: the blowtorch client made by the same devolpers as the aardwolf rpg app
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: this client allows me to go portrait though. easier typing
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I wonder why the aard specific one won't.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i have a droid razr maxx...its kinda big so landscape typing is a pain
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: is there a faster way than typing tech? and how can i turn tech channel off?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i guess thats a question for nd...
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: There's no faster way, and simply type "tech" to turn it off. This goes for other channels as well.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: thank you. add me murphisto
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: ? :)
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: if i want my prompt to show if there is graffiti in a room, how do i do that? it only shows room name with %r
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: if i want my prompt to show if there is graffiti in a room, how do i do that? it only shows room name with %r
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: is it possible to show if a room has graffiti n my prompt?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: clientside, with a mapper, yes.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't really need a mapper for that
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the answer is no :P
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's prompt cannot show the existence of graffiti
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's unanimous! 3 out of 4 bots agree it can be done.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: thankyou
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont even need a mapper, an rname trigger, and a prompt substitution
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: can anyone tell me what would cause a php script to work on one page, and not another, when nothing with the php part of the script was changed?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: include or global var?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: also: are they on the same server? do they have the same environment vars?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: same server, same directory, the only difference is in the html code.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: have you tried changing the error codes and testing the page to see what it catches?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone know a good site where I can get an LCD TV cheaply and I would be able to hook it up as a comp monitor or TV?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: TVs generally don't make great monitors
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: would it be naive to recommend watching newegg for deals?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Most any TV will be usable, though, through HDMI.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Nod just looking for something I can setup my xbox on and act as a dual monitor if I need it too.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have the Sony PS3 monitor. Works pretty well. No TV card, though, so you'd need a cable box or something else with a TV card in it.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: anyone know where i can get an AFK script/plugin similar to Abelinc's?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can write one.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: besides writing one :)
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Abelinc's is for his client, which I believe is tinyfugue. If you're looking for MUSH, you might ask on tech board. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: what is the command to change the number of lines before you have to press enter to continue scrolling
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: scroll #
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: or scroll 0 turn off scrolling
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: my client window has lots of empty space. what's a pretty and/or informative way to fill it? any favorite plugins?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or are you just looking for ideas for scripting?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: the Aard version of MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, go to his site, click the wiki tab and read the info on his plugins...download the whole zipped folder, but only click "add" for individual ones you're interested in
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: thanks! the screenshots look like science, which is pretty much what I was hoping for.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like...science?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: that's right.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: you know, like every computer screen in a sci-fi movie.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bast's stuff looks like a bunch of random blinking lights?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But neither of them are online.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: maybe not that old-school.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: i mean it as a compliment, incidentally.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: LCARS online
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: that is a fine example.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi! any software can convert Photo image to Cartoon?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Photoshop.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: other than this
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://cartoon.pho.to/
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: photoshop can with some effort. google 'lichtenstein photoshop tutorial'
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: adobe photoshop. it has filters that can make your photoes look like they were drawn in pastel or water color
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyelse software beside photoshop?
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that website ozzy posted is kinda funny
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: gimp is freeware - equivalent to photoshop
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just tried it,,, works pretty good :P
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: on android, there are programs that can do that too. forgot what's it's name.
T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://storage13.pho.to/images/3/a2/E2CB8255-AA69-4AD3-B037-A59281A3266B.jpg
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Woah...just picked up a 480GB Sata III SSD for $380
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You paid too much.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, I paid the I-Live-In-Australia tax
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You cannot say that without knowing the brand.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sandisk Extreme, btw
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure I can.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Prices for SDDs vary a lot depending on quality.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I bought an HDMI cable for about $900, it's pretty high tech
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ebay wants $1100 for the Intel
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: That tax is quite annoying, and I say this living in Australia.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: That tax is quite annoying, and I say this living in Australia.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: HDMI cables... for $900... you're out of your friggin' mind.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Now, that was a bad buy, I can say without knowing the brand.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Our dollar buys $1.05 US, but they still add 10% to any tech parts
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+2%27+High-Speed+HDMI+Cable+-+Dark+Gray/Black/2383258.p?id=1218324434805&skuId=2383258&st=diamond%203%20foot%20hdmi&cp=1&lp=6#BVRRWidgetID
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you pay more than $8 for an HDMI cable, you're out of your mind.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It's made of DIAMONDS
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can see the $40 we sell at work being reasonable due to the braided cabling it has...bc I hate untangling plastic
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would buy it from bestbuy try it to see if it is better than return it after buying a $2 one from ebay
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol read the reviews on that cable
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: makes a 27" look like a 65"
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'll buy that HDMI for $900. Maybe it'll fix my lag time on COD! ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: same person also complains that it is too long
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: hdmi cords are way to expensive... need a 20 footer ><
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hahahahahahaha... Probably a man thinking that his small hand makes 1" look like 15". ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'll buy a 65" tv when they make films in 10,800p. Until then I'll use my 27" monitor and sit closer
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Doink, just look on Amazon
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I got a 6' HDMI cable for $9.99. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so far i have not had any problems with the super cheap hdmi's i got from ebay
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: There's a 25' HDMI cable on Amazon for $6
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The whole point of digital transfer is that you don't need expensive cabling. Just saying.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well. That derailed quickly.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Does anyone know, using mushclient, if you can do the mapper goto command and have it open doors?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just have to set custom exits, I believe.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: hmmm kk
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got the autohealer plugin from that mush website how do i set the potion and hp amount?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for any webexperts out there. I'm trying to figure out how to condense the code of my pages, so repeating menus that I have, I don't have to type on each and every page. I know it's possible with the include function of php. But my question is this, how do I keep the css formatting, if I move a menu out of one page, and into a menu.php file that I plan to include? does something different have to be done to handle the css code?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: div's and classes
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i am having problems with the mush client autohealer pluggin how do i set what potion to use?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is no default autoquaffer, what plugin is it?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think Bast and Winkle both maintain one however
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got it off a website mushclient pluggins its name is just autohealer
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: then you should probably ask at the place you found it...nobody here will know what you are using by magic
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im going to get the site brb
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my potion plugin is not an autoheal plugin, just a way to manage potions
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ah - I don't use either, so was guessing - sorry
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Love your miniwn work though, tis awesomesauce :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: got it here www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hey bast ... the spellup miniwin/plugin is a bit buggy :?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is there an autoheal plugin for aard mush?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in what way?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: any ideas its helpfile only shows me how to set max ho\p and max manna not how to set witch potion
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: hp*
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NOGasKet Domain Tech: for autohealing, i suggest you read help botting
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: and that plugin is for achea - http://achaea.mc0wnage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: havent tried to sift through the code but i appears when i try to run my spellup some of the spells seem to be trying to target a different target
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well i take it its on the mush client website its legal isent it
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Probably the blackscreen bug...I still can't shake mine, though now I have Mush on an SSD I can have Mush quit and rebooted in 0.5 seconds :-P
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Not safe to assume that.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vakieh, you should just be able to reinstall the plugin now, I fixed the bug where reloading the plugin would still result in a blacked out miniwindow
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Well, per the help botting, it appears to be legal, as long as you're not leaving yourself sitting in an aggro room and letting mobs repop and beat on you.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: If it is on the mush client website it is not necesarily legal in aard. You can use mushclient on many muds
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: So don't leave your keyboard, just a general rule.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Imalish: probably using skills that are more than one word
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, really? Cool - now I just have to find what I've modified/added so I can upgrade...but that's a problem for Future Vakieh
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: At least that's my interpretation.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i ticked through the spell lists to ensure the spells i want to have active are selected (while bypassing ones that are otherwise duplicates) ... yeah thats what i was thinking too
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: soo no sugjestions?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: afking with aggro mobs in the room is illegal in any case
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: but i didnt enter any items manually :/
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RUM-FILLED Robbo nods at Ranrr.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Topbilling, that plugin wasn't designed for Aardwolf, so it may not work at all anyway
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plus, its vbscript, gah
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe that plugin isn't even for aard Topbilling
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ooo ok sorry where can i find a autohealer for aardwolf?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://aardhaven.comli.com/mush.html
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as far as "it's on the xxx website it should be legal"...legality is different on different MUDs, and legality of a particular script/plugin is even situation-dependent on a single MUD...
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an autoquaff script is legal on Aard while you're there starting fights yourself...it's illegal on Aard if you're afk in an aggro room
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why reading "help botting", "help stacked commands" and "help is this botting" is good
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: What does the last parahraph in "help is this botting" really mean?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: the second sentence
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Some people said 'I do daily blessing auto, but don't use it so it isn't botting'
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Except they were farming chaos portals, etc (hearsay)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: that site you guys just gave me i save the plugins as i normaly do but it isent going as the plugin file its saving with an opera mini icon
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it means a DB reward of "kill 10 MOBs for 2x exp" doesn't help you if you bot it...a DB reward of "10 QP"s benefits you whether you "want it" to or not
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (if you botted the DB request but didn't ever kill MOBs, that is)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: So logging in for your daily blessing and logging out is not legal?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: why bother, it isn't in the spirit of the game.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's legal
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If YOU do it, it's fine. Different if Daily_Blessing_Bot.xml does it
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger to "daily prayer" when you get the notification that you can request one is illegal
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'm guessing a script to do it for you is illegal
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: right
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I get it. It's just written in a funny way
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there a way to make the spellup list give priority to certain spells (specifically wisdom modifying spells
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: spellup wisdom
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: spellup wis
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: oops m/c
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in order to include an external file using php, all I would have to do in the file to display is and, then in the file_to_include.php it's just plain html code? or is it surrounded by the ?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: what would u~o n~n do ? is that a mush command?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: shrug, im reading a plugins script and it has U~O N~N
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still need more info...
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: yah i saw it on a site somewhere i think its a mapper cexit output
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: hunt trick wont work unless you're wolfen right? or will it?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It works regardless of what class you are.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works with every class. don't need hunt
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: interesting :)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, race.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: I updated to the lastest mush and bast... and I keep seeing {invitem}. I type invmon to make it go away, but later it will start showing again. any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: who was it that was asking recently about the weaponswitcher plugin nor rearming after being disarmed. I just got disarmed and the auto rearm indeed didn't work
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Get the disarm message from wiki.aardwolf.com under General -> MUD messages
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Build your trigger around that.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the trigger fired. It was the weaponswitcher plugin from Bast's site. It always worked until an week or so ago
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: also note that there are some fights that have specialized disarm messages ... such as the dark elf king in dark elf strong hold ... where he throws a rock and paralyzes yoru shoulder causing you to drop your weapon
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: after the disarm the trigger fired with a Wield all. Then came this msg: You can only use single item syntax with a wear location.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Those are mprogs, not disarms.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The issue being that wield is location specific. 'wear all' would be a better solution.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: indeed may be mobprog but the result is the same ... disarmed :P
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: guess so. I'l see if I can rewrite the trigger. It never should have doen a wield all in the first place. I had a cweap set so it should have tried to wield that.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: rewrite the plugin I mean
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the disarmed function does "wear all" if cweap == nil...the disarmed_aard function does "wield all" if cweap == nil
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I was talking about the disarmed_aard function and cweap was not nuil
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ok, here's something weird. I use my macro, which calls an alias, which works btw.. but it also pulls up a dialog box which says "The variable hitpot is not defined". well, it IS defined, but that macro doesnt call that varable. several of my macros and plugins are acting weird, I tried a reboot of mush just not, same issue.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyway the wield all ini itself also didn't work. I'll make something nice of it
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does \\\GetVariable("weapon1") give you?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol nothing. Need to set the \\\. just a sec
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm strange it seems it does returm nil for some reason
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but all my weapons return nil
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: any clue how to make potionquaffer v2 able to consume heal/mana items that are pills ?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change it to eat instead of quaff
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: how ?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open it up in Notepad, do "find" on "quaff"...
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bah so i would have to modify the script itself :/
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you are code-savvy, you can create a dictionary table populated with the appropriate action for each item, such as: quaffers["Jade Elixir"]="quaff", quaffers["Nachos"]="eat" ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but other than introducing a new variable IsPill or something, you'd need to change it back when you return to using pots
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and it would make it near impossible to have it work with pots and pills at same time :/
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't bother with a dictionary table, just when you set healpot, also set IsPill, etc
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Imalish: It wouldn't make it near impossible to have it work with pots and pills at the same time.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just use the potion versions, it's not like you're limiting availability
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: but i would have to essentially create 2 new variables inside the script 1 for healtype to set as pill,pot,or what ever... same with mana
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You could even use keywords, such as quaffers["jade"]="quaff", quaffers["nachos"]="eat", then set your alias to pull the correct intake value, like send(quaffers["%1"].." %1")
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there used to be a limitation that you couldn't use pills if you were too full
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah but was trying to upgrade to lvl 130 mana popcorn
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use level 125 mana extract
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But as Abelinc says, you can use an IsPill toggle instead, then run: if IsPill then send("eat %1") else send("quaff %1") end
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mana pots/pills pretty much all give 1/2 their cost back in mana...there's not a significant difference between 120 and 130, much less 125 and 130
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the script has separate spots for heal and mana actions...you could change Send("quaff '" .. GetVariable("manapot") .. "'") without changing Send("quaff '" .. GetVariable("healpot") .. "'")
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would an ftp server come up with the error: Response:530 Sorry, the maximum number of clients (4) for this user are already connected.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i'm not connected
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other than "it was set up by retards"
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because something is connected as you
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: It's retarded was going to be my answer.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: self evident, growly :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly a browser
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: explain
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: what ftp client are you using?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres already 4 open connections with your login and password.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were previously connected, your client didn't tell the server it's OK to disconnect
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: filezilla
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It means you ftp password sucks and at least 4 other people easily guessed it?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try edit, settings, file transfer settings, use multiple connections to transfer files
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Hung session
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have no such setting, but i have tried setting max to 4 to see if that helps, and it appears to be
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or edit settings, transfers on the sidebar, concurrent transfers, maximum simultaneous transfers
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ta
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What is botting incompletes?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: brew incomplete potions
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: automatically
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it's automating something repetetive, boring, and useful
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Thank God. I was afraid it meant "incomplete bot that can't run more than a handful of mud commands without human attention".
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: for my view, single incompletes should be available somewhere.. but that's just me
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe Kraken, but that doesn't excuse the botting =p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: indeed.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: not gonna defend that.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: anyone have an opinion on sager notebooks?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just so i can go on record as actually buying something from bestbuy that i don't intend to return: i purchased a $20 wiring harness, and used a $10 gift card i received from them for recycling a CRT
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so they still gouged me $2
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gouged.. you keep using that word... I don't think it means what you think it means
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: please review your logs, that was the first and only time i have used that word
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe you don't know what 'keep' means?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Indeed I do. Point remains. =p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes :)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: not a fan of Best Buy?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: expensive
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i love best buy
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just keep getting told i am being unethical for using their 30day no questions asked return policy to trouble shoot hardware problems
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Uh.. it is a bit unethical. Also, learn to troubleshoot. =p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, when BestBuy is selling HDMI cables for $935... I'm sure you have plenty of reasons to continue abusing them.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am sure they are fully aware that people use their 30day return policy the way i do
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which still doesn't make it right =p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: they seem ok with it
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Daloran: Does selling a $935 2' HDMI cable "right"?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which HDMI cable, Etz?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: tell us the truth Daloran, you are a large share holder in Bestbuy and secretly die a little everytime i mention this
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, I'm a former retail wage slave who had to put up with people pulling this kind of schenanigan =p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh well you should have reported it
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sheesh seems unethical to not report it
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You're implying I didn't.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: however, when policy is clearly spelled out, isn't much you can really do.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bah.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well if you did, they obviously don't care, so why would it then be unethical
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+2'+High-Speed+HDMI+Cable+-+Dark+Gray/Black/2383258.p?id=1218324434805&skuId=2383258&st=diamond%203%20foot%20hdmi&cp=1&lp=6#BVRRWidgetID
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That one.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but it remains on the record i did buy from best buy and do not intend to return it
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Etz... Bestbuy actually has the cheap price on that cable. Amazon selling it for almost 1500.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is it from Amazon itself, or from sellers on Amazon?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: vendors on amazon. But still, other B&M stores locally carry it for more as well
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Locally. BestBuy is national. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: okay, so give me another large national electronics specialty store that is going to have that cable to compare it to
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Either way, no matter who is selling it, it's completely ridiculous at that price.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe. But I think its unfair to look at a high end hdmi cable they sell, that other vendors sell for more, and call them out for gouging.. they also have <$20 hdmi cables as well
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: BestBuy DOES price gouge, though. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Compared to whom
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: who, rather
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no name dealers on ebay
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: eBay, Amazon, almost everything online is cheaper.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nationally? I suppose they're the monopoly in all things tech. But 90% of the stuff I can buy at BestBuy, I can get for much cheaper at Target or Walmart.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bob: Yes, online. Less overhead. No sales associates or many locations to pay for
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just go to Best Buy to check out the gadget, then go home and buy it on Amazon.
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: menards
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone use bast's eqdb plugin?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: not me, sorry
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I thought there was a way to sort items in a container with it, and Im not seeing it in the help file
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: anyone here have experience with cachi server pages (and csp rules in particular)?
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: test
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you should test your bots with echo not a channel (grin)
T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: nice
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Using MUSH, is it possible or fairly easy to macro the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down buttons?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so you may accidentally push them and act like a robot chicken ?!
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: take this to gossip or something
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: are there plug ins, add ons, or mods for the mobile client?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "the mobile client" ... is not exactly very helpful. probably not
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: well i downloaded this app from the android market
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: blowtorch?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: blowtorch?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: miss
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ros.. which app though. its meaningless =p
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: just wondering thats all, because i started downloading the mush client that had some cool features on it so i figured maybe something lie that for the app
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: again.... which app. without specifying even asking is pointless =p
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: the ardwolf rpg ver 1.1.3
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: looks like its from whoever did blowtorch
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: k thanks ill dig around
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wonder if Lasher knows about that app or not
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Uh, yes, he helped facilitate it...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: He does
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh? fair enough then.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: help www, at the bottom. ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Looking at some of the info people are taking it to be a stand alone phone game... but then again, people are stupid
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair enough.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's because of the mxit crowd - that's how it's been marketed to them, in South Africa, from what I understand
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair, ped. Was just worried name was being misused. But if imms are up on it, no worries
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Definitely
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: i realize its not just for mobile thats just how ive been playing it mostly on the go or at work. all i was wondering was if the the programop that is being used ( blowtorch, i believe) had any additional add ons to enhace mobile game play
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: probably not premade addons. but it seems to support macros/triggers and such
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: hmm is there a help for the macros
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: i think there labels that you set up macros inu
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: is a s7d considerd botting if i sit here and recall and rt the hole time?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: s&d
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: s&d is legal, though there is very thin line between S&D and bot
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well as my mapper sucks i doubt its bottinf\g and im tyoing the hole time lol
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper has nothing to do with botting - the more you explore the better you maper become
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: sorry for spelling and typos need to clean this board
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've heard there is also auto-explore plugin
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mapper and botting is linked, but not inherent
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: oooos osund yummy lol
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, main difference is human attendance
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be careful with that 'human attendance' aspect - it is entirely possible to bot while never leaving the keyboard or even the client window
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with scripting level provided by mush, it is quite easy to make cp bot or level bot
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: according to Lasher's reply, mobwalking (S&D) is legal. Mapwalking (auto-exploring) is not. I understand that auto-potting is also considered botting.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: that explore plugin would rock as i have 16% explored
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was a clever trick, provide a custom client then nuke the bots that use it
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just become SH then go to low level areas and explore
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The map walking referenced was automatically moving your character through a series of rooms designed to streamline (afk) pupping
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Autoexplore plugins while at keyboard are legal afaik, so long as they aren't killing key mobs, etc
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dangerous, though...easy to run you into overlevelled parts of the mud
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: but okay if you went to a continent and canvassed areas like "run 20en20wn20en" I hope
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok as i understand it the autoexplorer is on the edge of botting so do i go look for it or forget it
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You could run the whole continent system in a single alias if you wanted - I know I did
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: forget it is safe
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I walked the continents manually. Doesn't take that much time.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: except something went wrong for me and now my mapper can't figure out how to get to wildwood
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ill trie that after q
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: same happened to me with Wildwood
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: interesting. perhaps the continents aren't aligned up perfectly in that area or something
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I wonder what it is that changed
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I haven't just walked a continent yet
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: any other plugins that border on boting that i should know about?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i have ... its a pain :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: even then i may have missed a few rooms ...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: is there sutch a thing as a lasertag plugin?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: If you mean a plugin to automate lasertag I'm sure someone has one somewhere
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: if its legal i want it lol
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't know if it is
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: then i dont lol
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: wouldn't be very smart to be nuked for cheating in lasertag
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: why don't you ditch the game and watch a movie instead if you want something that plays itself
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I doubt that would be legal
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: nah im cool with my s&d thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for lasertag it would be hard to detect bot
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some players are just incredibly fast
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some players cheap like buggery
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheat, even
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I joined one lasertag once simply to explore the area. I think laserzone and warzone should be noexplore
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: on the other hand it allows (or require) new players to play some lasertag games and take part in wars
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: not that many are concerned with exploration
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sooner or later people start checking myrank
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: perhaps
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i still only went back to lazer to explore
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you were forced to familiarize with laser, so you could call it kind of advertising (for those who want to improve myrank 15)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...I can get Windows 8 free via Dreamspark...should I try it out? I've already had a go of Metro, instant dislike
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Is there a console command for mush similar to #trigger for zmud?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, but you can write one.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I just didn't know if there was ways to make simple aliases/triggers through the console in mush. Thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sorry, actually there is, in the default installation!
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So actually there seems to be!
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Do you know what the string is?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: #trigger {blo} {ble}
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Oh nice same thing
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Nope no dice :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Check your aliases. If it's not there, just add it yourself.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: http://pastebin.com/ZTs1ApYP -- that's the alias text
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: I have a mobile phone with no signal. Is there a way to access the playlists I downloaded from Spotify without needing an internet connection?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: It's a Droid, if that helps at all.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: huan if you were able to create a miniwin that had stack of commands in queu then you might be able to click the window to destroy items in the queue (ie interrupting the queued commands)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: perhaps utilizing tick triggers along with prompt triggers that can help plugin identify wait status
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: canceling the queue is not a problem, as long as it is in client. Only I would assign it to @ instead of miniwin, already saw one mud to it this way (show queue, @ cancel queue)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: hmm, meant @ and @@
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mouse is clumsy if you need speed
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: fair enough ... what do youmean assign it to @ instead of miniwin ?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: a mud i played years ago allowed you to cancel queued commands using inputted command '--'
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: yes, something like this, syntax is not that important yet
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there was a wait penalty based on number of commands it had to cancel but it was less that 2 combat rounds
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can cancel a command stack on aard, just disconnect and reconnect. You can alias it to take less than a second. Plan ahead better, imo.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I know, but dc is dirty, and I belive it's frowned on by imms if done a lot
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: commands that i frequently have to spam are dispel magic and my attack spells
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: upwards of 5-10 tries to knock sanc off of mobs
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: aliasing d/c is poor taste
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: MUSHclient has a queue that you can use. You just have to decide what commands go into it and how often it picks a command off it.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: do tell
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since there's not really any way for MUSH to know when a command has been executed by the MUD
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sounds like a bot to me.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: leinei means speedwalk queue
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe the command is Queue()
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And then there is a DiscardQueue() command
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it's for muds that don't have speedwalk command implemented, and mushclient empties it at fixed rate
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, but you can specify the rate.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: where is the line btwn combat assisting and botting :/ its blurry and most of the time comes down to how the player uses it
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Why would this be close to botting?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: because it has potential to become recursive and thus could be abused to be roomwalking
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I avoid any triggers or timers that send text to mud, that should be safe enough. My longest alias stacks 12 commands, but I still have to launch it manually.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: pfft ive got the knossos palace commands in an alias
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: duh :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 14 commands that take about 5-7 secs to complete
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... im thinking that using an alias such as "~command" to add command to queue and having another alias to disrupt queue ... any commands entered while queue is processing would be treated as immediate and interrupt/pause queued commands
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: why not just avoid stacking so manay commands?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: that could work
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's a lot easier to not spam attack spells/skill and use trigs off of bprompt and cast success to cast/use skills for you...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: using any triggers to cast for you off bprompt would put you on the short list for botting
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan is agreeing with that Xantcha person again...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm, so it's illegal now?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: never was legal
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it was when i used valkur years ago
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: potion quaff has exception, combat spells don't
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah using triggers and this queue concept would make crossing the line a real problem
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Having ANY trigger EVER cast a combat spell is illegal
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no it's not
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i doubht that blinded triggers -> cure blind would be considered botting/illegal
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: disarm->re-eq triggers are allowed yes ?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: believe that is illegal. but want to hear if that's true.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: blind/cure blind trigger.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if using a script to save a ton of spam is illegal and can't see how auto cure blind is legal...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: cure blind is probably borderline, a standing imm would need to comment on that, I believe re-arm is legal... but having something that casts "immolate" for instance? you've crossed the line
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: thought that was illegal in pk for instance. blind/cure blind. or say .. web/dissolve. etc..
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: to re-iterate i am NOT trying to create a bot
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: no - this is a side comment.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: was curious about it.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Nods, I can see where the queue idea could be useful for things other than botting, I was responding to the comment about bprompt triggers
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: stacking is not a problem for mud, the data arrives whether you send them one line at a time, or in one packet. Saving spam gets mud nothing.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You can use a trigger to cast spells all you want. Just be at the keyboard.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zuellier nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: And don't automatically start combat, etc.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I disagree, personally
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: policies7 is pretty straight forward.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I really don't care about if you agree or not, I'm just reading the help file.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like another case for the "spirit of the rules" police...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: play nice ? opinion is allowed.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Read through policies 7, and tell me how having a trigger that automatically casts immolate after you initate battle is "illegal"
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's not a discussion of opinoin, it's a discussion of what's allowed.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: the only thing i would consider using bprompt triggers for is identifing when to push item from queue to mud
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: "Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without any direct interaction from you, is illegal. This is true even if you're at the keyboard" ... "if you need ot go afk and the room loads an aggressive mob" ... these are the cases where a bprompt cast trigger can get you nuked
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am going to laugh when triggers are removed completely and i am the only person who still knows how to play this game by typing
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: a bprompt trigger is grey area at best... but if you suddenly have to get up and you end up in a room where combat will be automatic (aggro is a good example), you will be guilty of botting
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'm going to laugh when the world goes under and I'm the only one who knows how to live without bathing!
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bah literal interpretation of policies7 indicates that my concept would be considered botting and thus a bannable offence ... but same is true for s&d or any auto re-cast spellup plugin
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thank you, your admission of guilt has been recorded, and someone will be with you shortly. Have a nice day!
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: There's a specific exception case for spellups listed
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah the furnaces we put out have absestos liners in them, usually broken...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: india much ?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone know how to output data from plugin StatMonitor on demand ?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: man i need a newer pc... getting sick of this thing freezing up on webpages...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: anyone have advice on allowing permissions to "Read phone id (IMEI, etc.)" on android apps? I have LBE privacy guard so can block it app by app
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Probably need to root it and give the app su permissions.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Rooted already, I mean, what sort of apps "legitimately" need it? or should i not worry about it
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: In CMud, I have two modules. One has a variable. The other has a trigger. What do I need to do to enable the trigger to be able to access the data inside the variable, which is in the other module?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Some sort of syntax, or a global flag, or something?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: are they in the same package?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ugh, i hate cmud
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yes i think so :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's three visibility settings for modules, local, external and global
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: local is visible within the same package, external is visible in other packages, global is visible everywhere
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm surprised people still use cmud... if it's anything like zmud, it's a piece of crap...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it's adequate. but, mushclient does everything you're likely to need, and is free
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Oh, thanks for your answer, I get it now!
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at A Giant Kraken.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: mushclient used to be a lot worse
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not really anything like zmud anymore, santher
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's based on zmud, but with an extra 7 years of development
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is it still a buggy piece of crap coded by a 12 year old?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it has bugs, but so does mushclient
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if zmud/cmud was coded by a 12 yr old then nascar drivers are 6 yrs old :)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: zmud was garbage... was more af a hack than a win32 app
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: given that it started as a win16 app...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah and slow as a dog
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: in keep of the kobaloi, it keeps messing my runto to zangar, the one going into the ponds, i have already done kobaloi goal, but it seems the pause where you are "lowered into the ponds" is messing up the runto. is there a way around this?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how are you doing the runto?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i use winkle's extended runto "xrt zangar" it stops at "Kobaloi Subterranean Fish Ponds", because there is a pause when you are being lowered into the ponds when you go "down"
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: block the exit that is a shorter path.. or better yet find the open clan exit to zangers, that will fix it.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And this is why you shouldn't rely on Winkle's mapper bots.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Should at least grasp as to how it works, why it does that :)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you can do that same thing without winkle's plugins...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: any plugins to track how much gold you get over a time period from killing mobs?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: nod, its actually a MUSH Mapper command, mapper goto
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the likely reason is that instead of sending each direction separately (ie, lots of spam), it sends all or part of the path via the RUN command.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: statmonitor tracks gold
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: his just streamline the mapper
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, Winkle's bot or Mush's built in mapper bot, shouldn't rely on it
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: okay cool thanks =D
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: rignt now im averaging 3100 gold per kill
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all you have to do is adjust where it goes, have a script activate that sends you through and then waits for the trigger line, and then have that trigger issue the rest of the walk.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: delays can be added in with cexit...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Find the zangers clan exit.. problem solved. Otherwise you can level lock the path through the ponds so mapper reroutes you. Id go with the open clan exit to zangers though :)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i have all the public clab exits mapped :)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: clan
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: me too, but I also have a point-to-point runto so I don't have to go through recall. Handling the weird exits to account for delays and fails and can't-go-there's is better than going the sometimes-longer way around.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What a joke...The Apple vs Samsung case was in Apple's backyard (6 miles from Apple headquarters). This was such a joke of a trial.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why was it a joke?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i take it apple won?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple won some...1.05 billion
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, a decision was made. Time for the appeals process to drag things out some.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that'll help buy some more suicide nets at their factories
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah reminds me of the apple vs ms crap
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple does not have much going for them outside of the iPhone and iPad markets. iPods have dwindled in sells.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: only in this case they both stole the idea from ms and now apple acting like they invented it..
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The funny part is if Samsung drops Apple as a client.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that was expected, given how phones have borged all the mobile-device markets.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple stole the idea of Icons from Xerox.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: reminds of how ford copied dodge trucks years ago and tried to sue dodge...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's one thing to offer a phone that does everything but that the "everything" is much crappier than dedicated devices. When the "everything" gets to be as good or in some cases better, then most people don't need all those dedicated devices.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah most new phones don't even get "making phone calls" that easy...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: read "most users are too dumb to handle a smartphone"
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what, you require a college degree to handle a smartphone
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: no, basic 4th grade logic.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the touchscreen is one of the dumber features they came out with, since it debuted on a screen far too small for the average thumb size.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they should lose some weight
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: even the larger phablet screens aren't much better.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: sorry, cant hear you over the awesomeness of my note
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I hate the touchscreen on my blackberry. It results in a lot of pocket dials.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger is agreeing with that Legendary Gruagach person again...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Even when I lock the damn thing, it still pocket dials.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: bb.....3rd world lol
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Meh, it's what my company gives its employess.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you don't mind the nag screen, there's some free slide lock apps to prevent that.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Employees, rather
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: my friend works for verizon and they said he can choose any phone, and he got a stupid bb.. some people love those things
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like bb
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like the blackberry well enough. The only issue I have is that no mud clients exist for it, due to their stupid proprietary OS.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: blackberry is the best mistake I've made in my life.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no useable ones, at least.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: there is a ssh client
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I like my bb torch, but I love my note
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well to be fair, mud clients on a phone is kinda rediculous anyways
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: depends if your clan has an app developr for the scripts
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how much do those smartphones cost to run a month
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: if your clan can port the scripts from mush to mobile device its win win
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like the physical keyboard on the BB, I wouldn't want a touchscreen keyboard. Just too weird.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: depends on carrier but i have 3 smartphones and i pay $215 with verizon
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher rapidly nods twice at Starling, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you go contract-less, I think you can go as far down as $50/month.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why do you need 3 phones?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i travel a lot.. i dont want to dick around with podunk prepaid
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: plan rates tend to be at least 1.5-2x that, though.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i like to have new phones
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Dope dealer, obviously.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: plus i run businesses
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: and drugs duh
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: "businesses", definitely a dope dealer :)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Do you have a "ho phone" too ?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: See... business's plural.... keep asking.. and well get more vague answers ")
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i have a lot of investments lol..they just run stuff past me
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: could also be a streetwalker. Would need a way to check in with the pimp.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i do have a ho phone..
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: and that number changes every 6 weeks
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Should use burners, youll last longer.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: send me one
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: all my shit is legit i dont have to worry about throw aways
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for someone with a lot of money, wouldn't it make more money sense to set up email accounts?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wat
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How does logging work in cmud? I don't want to log all mud output, I just want to log whenever somebody ignores/unignores me, and attach a timestamp to it as well.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use #WRITELOG
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or the old-fashioned #FILE/#WRITE.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, I will try those, thanks.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LOGGING IS EEEEEVVVVVIIIILLLLLLLL
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: #WRITELOG requres the log to be logging. #FILE 1 log.txt;#WRITE %time("hh:nn:ss")"text";#CLOSE 1 would work.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if we got rid of logging, though, you'd pop out of existence like a quantum particle.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and we'd have to refer to you as LanceArms forever after.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not evil, just creepy
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that like descartes being asked something and starting to answer "I don't think"...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: With the new ignore notifications, I want to see who is ignoring me and when :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: there ya go starling
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I haven't looked at tonight's notes yet, but someone's gotta post a note about another bot being nuked, referring to lance
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling thanks Kinjin heartily.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: did he bot? :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there a way to gag the sfail messages when you typo?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way you gag anything else
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or can turn off spelltags in general if you're not using/gagging them
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well when i don't typo, it's gagged...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fix your script to work on all sfails :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i didn't write it :/
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly just need to change the trig to allow for a negative first argument
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Abelinc doesn't know what he's talking about. Just delete the trigger and all your problems go away. *srun*
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah... been trying to avoid making my own... but it looks like i'll need to
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or at least figure this one out
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just {sfail}-1,0,8,-1...may need to escape the { and }
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing is variable in a nonexistent spell sfail
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i dodn't even know why it shows up...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shows up because the first argument is spellnumber
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a spellup script should never be casting anything with a negative spellnumber
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like i said...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: why is it even there at all?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz it's still good to know that you didn't successfully cast what you were trying to cast
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i guess the "You do not know a 'blah' spell. isn't clear enough...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just said how to gag it...
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a gag is just any trigger, with "omit from output" checked
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm that was easier than i thought... no escaping needed :)
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: now i try and cast wro all i want :P
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err can
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in the create table method for mysql, what is the purpose of the l
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: primary key?
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: The two major functions are: The primary key on a table designates which column(s) is(are) guaranteed to uniquely identify a row. The PK is also indexed by default, so lookups on that are usually faster than using other (unindexed) criteria.
T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: on stupidly massive tables usually faster can often be seconds faster... though too many keys and efficiency is diminished
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how can you get mp3's playing on your website without having some invasive controls muddying the page?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You shouldn't. Music on webpages is stupid. Same goes for autoplaying video.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there's a flash app that expands the controls after you press play
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice at Ranrr, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about answering the question that I asked, not the one you wanted to answer?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: tochy Tiggy ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: decided I wasn't in the mood
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you are number 6
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: who whut ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm guessing Tigernuts ignored his 6th person.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: here it is.. the yahoo webplayer is just a tiny play/pause button
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Scurv to the rescue ! I love that u r Oz !
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love people who use full words and not idiotic syntax that displays laziness.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll have a play with the yahoo one, though i'm not convinced it'll do what i need it to
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Maybe you're better off writing your own embedded player.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: convey meaning - - do it efficently - ? prob ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It doesn't convey meaning efficiently (or in most cases, at all) when you butcher words. ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: but what is your take on those that use those idiotic syntax that displays laziness, etzli?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hah. Let's not go there.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: aww cmon - don't B shy .. :P
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: k.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh wait, hold on. 'ha lts n0t g0 der'
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: since when is a zero more efficient than o
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're on a phone, tons.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: yeah that numpad is mudddy water !
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yahoo player is dependant on Apple Quicktime
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, if you're on one of those obsolete phones that require you to hit 6,6,6 to get o.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: frag that quicktime shite tiggy !
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: grumble
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Tigernuts: http://dribbble.com/shots/592096-Minimalist-Web-Player ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: anyone got a hidden talent ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, but you'll never see it.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: because it's invisibility ...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will just skip it
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: or irrelavence ...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: opps soz
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: soz take that back
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there is a wordpress plugin called powerpress which is the one I was thinking of, example here: http://www.poetry4kids.com/blog/podcast/i-taught-my-cat-to-clean-my-room/
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: my appologies
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, here: http://tinyurl.com/2dhzc5l
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Top 20 audio webplayers, with images.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now to complain about browsers that refuse to check for presence of page changes when you hit refresh
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: *glare firefox*
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: aha http://www.macloo.com/examples/audio_player/
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that is the best one
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: html5 was a big failure with audio
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I like the streaming mp3 player with dropdown playlist, though. Hmm.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: anyone familiar with the term pissing contest ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: familiar, yes
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: can you be my uncle Tiggy ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: When did tech become the babysitter channel?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: twice removed - once by the fuzz ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: awwww pleassssssssse !
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: did we get a babysitting chann ?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ergo ..
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Error 404 Request not found
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wow windows update sure is screwy... had like 29, installed 4 and it says there's like 5...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I hate windows updates, when I flip down the lid on my laptop it decides to install them.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah you can disable that
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm starting to se why some people just disable the updates altogether
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: time for a restore again *sigh*
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: restoring is a pain as well.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: more windows update weirdness... 35 updates... end up as "Not needed" recheck and now it's installing them...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Neil Armstrong died.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Great place to discuss that :)
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: NASA's going to be releasing the live feed of him stepping off Jacob's ladder.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's pretty distasteful
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda smirks at Tigernuts and asks, "too soon?"
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The US Patent Office has really caused so much crap to be allowed in the Apple vs Samsung trial. They should have never allowed several of the patents to be allowed. Apple copied Palms from the 90s. Where is Palm suing Apple?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the USa Patent Office is run/guided by corrupt career seekers and corrupt insiders and corrupt politicians -- they are seeking/receiving favour fom those that benefit from the corruption
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: politics in the USa is guided by crass greed --especially the Republicans, even the Democrats are affected
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Please go to debate or something for politics.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or discussing the intricate mess that is copyright/patent law
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: using winkles spellup plugin... how do i spellup someone else... spellup (target) ain't working, so it's keeping me from getting to the mud commands
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there an easy way using a CSS to have a class indicated for a table element apply specific formatting to not just the table but also the child th/td elements, or is there no way around having to indicate separate class attributes for each of the children?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it doesn't have that function... just make a spellup other alias.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you f'ing kidding me? the stupid plugin prevents me from using the mudside spellup commands?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: never used the plugin but have you tried spellu target so the alias doesn't gag the command to the mud
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think you can stack tag defs, Mye. like, table,td {stuff}, if I remember correctly. May want to go bask in the awesomeness of w3schools.com, though.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mudside spellup doesn't spellup others either...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: didn't think to abbreviate, thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that worked
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yes, it very much does
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: read help spellup, thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mudside spellup doesn't spellup others either...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: yeah it does
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: never had problems with wink's affecting others
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: spellup : Spellup another person.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i want to apply different formatting to the th and td elements.. stacking would apply the same things to all of them, right?
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: guess it was changed
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: using spellu instead of spellup worked, what a ridiculous limitation
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep, but it'd work for the common properties, so that you only need to specify the specific stuff in your other defs.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not bad, should have it's own forgetskill list though...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: quickly testing, stacking applies to both.. i want to say "this is a type of table whose heading/data rows have this type of formatting" but not interfere with non- tables... not sure i can do that without specifying classes for each element (i'm looking for the equivalent of a scope-resolution operator or specifying a xpath expression, which there might not be one in CSS)
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: ah, found it.. space instead of comma.. yay!
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: question for anyone familiar with mysql and displaying data... is it possible to break down the data in a single table column, if it's got a large amount of data? to format it I mean.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: new to this, trying to find info about it online, but I'm not very good with search engines.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: they hate me :( lol
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you could select a single column easily enough
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how are you looking to format? you can do transforms within the select statement
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I dunno, ATM the info is just being plugged into that cell as one big list... but it will need to be formatted when it comes out.
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: just not sure how to go about it...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it'll prob be inputed as an ordered list
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best is to make it not just one list, but can do it as one list with different transforms...
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: not sure what transforms are I'll have to google that to see what it is, I'm VERY new to db stuff
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it wouldn't be called transforms, that's a generic name for, well, transforming how something's looking
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without telling us real info, I can't get more detailed than that
T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a db that is syslog output...our wireless controllers dump syslog data to it...I use a custom select statement to output logintime, loginname, buildinglocation...where the loginname and IP are all part of a rather large syslog field, and I use cases to change IP to building name
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kleine Bot Krypteria Tech: anyone know bbssh client?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kleine Bot Krypteria Tech: guess not
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: Hello is anyone useing the Mush client. If so my question is this : Is it possible to run to the name of a room if you've already explored it?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the aard client allows for this
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: it is
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: really, how do I go about that?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: I new I had to be wasting time staring at a map over and over.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: the mapper if im not mistaken
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if you are using the aard-recommended verison of the client, with maps and fancy coloured boxes, type "mapper help"
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: No I have the mapper running. I was just wondering if there was a way to search for then run to. Because places like the underdark there is a lot of little boxes to scroll your mouse over before you find the rite place.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: "mapper area roomname"
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: says that is not a command
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: type 'mapper help' for the list of commands
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: ahhh thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: how do i toggle gui for winkle's? it somehow disappeared
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle has a few different plugins...have you tried typing "ww help" or looking at the part of his website for the plugin you're using?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: does anyone know if using the php function include() is capable of handling web addresses, or is it only directory paths?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: probably just paths, web addresses wouldn't really be include-able in php
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: So is HTML easy ?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Easier than any programming language.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pizza cake
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: HTML5, now that's another story.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It seems to be an umbrella term for HTML+JavaScript :P
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or maybe it's like othello :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: anyone know why my Winkle search and destroy isn't visible?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: heh :) nm.. got it
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: updated to newest version of aardwolf mushclient and need help getting my map to show in the main world window, map tags are off and i disable the ascii mapper as a personal preference. how do i get the normal map to show within the main world window?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: okay this annoying... useing MUSH on a mac. normally I can ctrl+c something in mush, then goto an mac pragram and comand+p and it will paste. but that seems to have stopped working. any sugustions?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: still works the other way, from mac to mush
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: highlight, right-click, copy?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check your wine settings for clipboard sharing
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: that wasn
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: that wasnot working either.. but it is now. and so is crtl+c. started after I went from mac to mush. hmmmm
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: good idea abe.. if I had any idea how to do that. LOL
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ooo, found the prefs abe.. cool
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: where do I Send a trigger that I want to play a sound when a phrase pops up? World? Output?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, thanks Abe
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need anything in the action part if you use the section on playing a sound
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you can send to script and use PlaySound()
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ok, I only set the trigger and a sound ans have it send to world. We'll see what happens.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mush plugin/script interaction question: how can i pull variables create and used by plugin to be able to use then in script of alias ?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetPluginVariable
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone on that uses potionquafferv2 ?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.cyberguys.com/product-details/?productid=18458
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: an ingenious hardware solution to a software problem
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Unless it's mechanically reaching out and moving your mouse, it still seems like a software solution to me :P
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, it's acting as a USB mouse. I get it.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: rather than fix your screen saver settings, just wiggle the mouse!
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone know why potionquafferv2 stops allowing you to set the healdesc/manadesc string ?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: never heard of it
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: its a plugin bundled with bast's :/
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: essentially assigns heal/mana/buff pot string for keyword (used to get/drink item),description(used to identify items in bag) and provides alias to get -
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and quaff
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T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: setting the healdesc allows it to figure out how many you're carrying
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or when you buy one, etc.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah ... but any time i try to set the desc it doesnt work
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: it ends up as an empty/null value :/
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what are you typing to set it?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 'healdesc Tri-Lunar Elixer'
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: think you need an equal sign, iirc
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: healdesc = blah
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but it's been a while since I've used it, and I've only used Onitsu's version (or however you spell his name)
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: same deal ... spits out -> Healpot Description (What You See Item As) is:
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: this one says it is onoitsu2's work wiht some bugfixes by bottomfeeder
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wow. that sounds old
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: do you have a newer/better one ? one that allows use of item types other than potions ?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i was trying to modify the one i have to allow use of pills (like Cheesy Nachos from bard clan)
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that part of the modification worked fine up until the point i tried to change the potions i wanted to use :/
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i had this problem last mort and someone suggested i do something ... that worked fine until i remorted :/
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while it wouldn't work to count, would this let you set the desc: healdesc
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while it wouldn't work to count, would this let you set the desc: healdesc Tri Lunar Elixer
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd let you know if it's the hyphen screwing it up
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: doesnt work :(
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i even tried adding junk 'asdf' to healdesc just to see if it was working at all ... and its not ... as far as i can tell either the regex isnt firing on the string or the assignation isnt working right :/ no clu which it would be
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: regex for healpot alias is -> "^(hp|healpot|(healpot\s?\=?\s?(.*?))|(healdesc\s?\=?\s?(.*?))|(healtype\s?\=?\s?(.*?))|(healnum\s?\=?\s?(\d+)))$"
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if it's showing you a message, then it's matching on the alias
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that regexp looks fine. Something else isn't firing properly
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: isn't there a current status or some alias like that in there?
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (been like 5+ years since I've used it...)
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there is a 'pquaff list' command that dumps name,desc,type,num to output for each type of item
T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and that displays things as it should except that the description string is shown as empty
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: guys any pros in gaming hardware? have some questions
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I just built a gaming rig, but my priority was cheapness over raw power.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: So I don't know how much help I can be
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: i wonder what processor of I7 line is good and is not really expensive?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I'm afraid I went amd, I didn't do any research at all on the i7 series.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra got an AMD 6-core processor... I have to keep 2 of the cores turned off or it'll overheat :-S
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: i'm looking for I7
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I got an AMD phenom 2 quad. My only complaint is that the fan it shipped with sounds like a jet engine.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so change it
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, I changed mine to Vortex Plus by CoolerMaster. It's not powerful enough or something -- 6 cores overheat the CPU with mprime.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: my "gaming rig" is i5 sandybridge notebook, without dedicated graphics card. It works okay for most titles I'm interested in, if I turn details to minimum
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I know, I'm just lazy, and the annoyance hasn't overcome that yet.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Covenant: I would just look on amazon, and balance the Ghz against the price until I come to a nice medium.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: processor usually doesn't matter these days, gfx does
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mmmm... Turned off 2 cores, ran mprime with 4 threads... Temperature is 56.5 and slowly rising.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Murphisto is agreeing with that Huan person again...
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Depends! Huan, have you ever tried playing Dwarf Fortress?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It needs CPU very much.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Well now, building a rig for DF is a totally different matter :P
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: yeah, DF is something of an exception in this arena.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Murphisto, how would you go about that?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your facebook rig. only needs a net connection, a hard disk for viruses to buffer up stolen data, and a microphone and camera for the NSA to spy on you
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and a lobotomy tool to make you even more stupid than you are now
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: because last time I played it my AMD 995 wouldn't handle the raw number of cats, clothes, and temperature calculations. I never even get to the population limit.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my wife does a lot of those crap Zygna games on FB... actually needs some horsepower for all that flash crap to be playable :P
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, you've got the important stuff covered
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, what kind of computer would be best for DF?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Cizra: I'd skip the graphics card, and nice motherboard, and dump all my money into cpu
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Big single core, big cache, fast ram.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Murphisto is agreeing with that Tharnin person again...
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no idea what df is
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Well, not single core, but fastest clock speed, regardless of core count.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Cache size?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How 'bout the fact that most time gets spent on memory latency/bw nowadays?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I think tharnin's fast ram suggestion is supposed to help with that.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: timings over spd
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: unless your overclocking bigtime
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I haven't seen any fast ram suggestions? What did I miss?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: "Big single core, big cache, fast ram."
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ahhhhh how did I miss it?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yesyes
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not a game, i take it
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Tiger: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I seriously doubt that the person asking the original question is trying to build a computer expressly for DF anyways though.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Nod, this is a pretty serious digression.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, but I might want to do it, so I changed the topic :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Cizra, 1st thing would be what's your budget and do you need just the box or a complete setup(key/mouse/speakers/monitor)
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Let's assume the budget is more or less unlimited, for now :-) And just the box as the rest is not very relevant.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so go for the fastest clock cpu you can afford, and memory with very good timings... looks like memory is the biggest hog for DF
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like a souped-up version of Lords of Midnight without the graphics
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the wiki states that latency is indeed more important then speed
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Which wiki?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:System_requirements
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: it also has an obscenely difficult interface.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: That's good to know. I thought my cpu was holding me back, but now I can just get some better ram :D
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: most games show a marginal diff between ram speed... 1333 or 1600 is within a few % of 1866 on benchmarks... timings for DF are important though
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if you overclocking the cpu you can get better timings out of faster ram normally though
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Speaking of RAM, last week I ran a program that used 19.3 gigabytes of it :-D
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: holy cow
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Note to self: Don't leave mprime running with no supervision if your CPU is known to overheat.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: just got the aard client on a work pc, how do I enable local echo?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: just got the aard client on a work pc, how do I enable local echo?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: alt+0 check echo my commands
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: AWESOME thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: might be echo my input depending on version os mush
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: that took me to the correct options menu
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: enabled within
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: np
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so what is the benefit of the aard mushclient over the standard?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: it is made for this game
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: no need to have a ton of scripts
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: custom designed mapper, stat window, communications log (separates channel output)
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: it has built in maps and hp,man,xp bars
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so does the standard you just have to edit them alittle
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: well minus the xp bar
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shakes his head at The Dragon RandAlthor.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone got a clue how to append a semi-colon to the end of every line in a document
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: depends what editor you're using I suppose... but doing a regex replace of "\n" for "
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: depends what editor you're using I suppose... but doing a regex replace of "\n" for ";\n" might work, if you have the option
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Copy the text to an editor like NotePad++, do a regex for find $, and replace it with ;?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: damn client ate my ;
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: manually? semi doen end semi down end semi down end
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or \n, yeah.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it depends, does the semi need to be after every carriage return, or every line?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: at the end of every line, which doesn't appear to be after every carriage return
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I adjusted the margin in the text document
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'd do this manually but there are hundreds of lines
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm downloading notepad++ now
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and if you change something in the middle, it will skew everything off and you will have semis every where
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: really I just want to put a really long text document into an aardwolf note
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need semicolons for that
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: can you recommend the best method plz
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just paste it in as the multi-line document
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the problem is the line length is too long
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: semicolon doesn't help that
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: use the aardwolf note formatter?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I need to reduce the length of the lines somehow though
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: where is the note formatter?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/note.php
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but semicolon at the end of what the line already is, doesn't reduce the length...
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the semicolon would be AFTER the too-long line
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Abe, it's weird, but I copy and paste the reduced lines, and when they are pasted they revert to the original length
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off line wrapping in your editor
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: reducing the margin of the document evidently doesn't change the location of the /ns
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, nor should it
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those searches/replaces for semicolons wouldn't change the location either
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: wait? you're trying to insert semicolons at the line-wrapped endings of lines?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: margins and wrapping are lying to you about where your lines actually end
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, but mush would parse it as a new command
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no gregor, it wouldn't
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not where you need it to
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Abe, you might be misunderstanding what I mean, because I usually use this semi colon method with shorter notes, and it works
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I'm not misunderstanding you in the least...trust me
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: so you're looking for something that will take a full-paragraph note and break it into 80-column lines?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Abe, you may be misundersanding because I'm not explaning correctly
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no gregor, I understand...you're misunderstanding when I say semicolons won't work
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I normally use semicolons abelinc
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and it works, no problem.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but you use them correctly...this WILL NOT use them correctly
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why they won't work...not because the semicolons themselves won't
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truly...trust me...I know EXACTLY what you're saying, why you're saying it, and why it won't work
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no clue what you are saying, but I'm just going to turn off line-wrap like you said, because I know that will solve the problem
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the other problem is that there is so much text I just insta crash when I try and paste it into a note
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will show you the problem, it won't quite solve it, but it'll let you see the problem to solve it
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: line-wrap doesn't give you real newlines, so you can't use a regex to do a replacement
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy 50 lines, paste 50 lines, copy next 50 lines, past next 50 lines
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, but with line wrap turned off hopefully I wouldn't need semi-colons
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you'd need some sort of complex look-behind with a space locator... *ponder*
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never need semicolons, you just need to know where newlines are/need to go
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes agreed, I just have to work around things that I don't instantly understand
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: brute force I believe it is called
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, when composing in text editors, make the editor longer than 80 lines, and then manually hit enter before you reach it
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you don't have manual linebreaks already (other than new paragraphs, etc.), the note formatter is likely going to be the easiest method.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you make the editor itself shorter than 80 and it linewraps, it's lying to you
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm going to try somethign.....
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I love text editors with a "insert hard break at wraps" function :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is that an apple thing?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Doubt it.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: textwrangler/bbedit on Mac have it (best text editor on the planet), I know EditPadPro has it on Windows...dunno if there's a 1-touch button for it on notepad++ (I use EPP)
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: hrm... odd that it won't work in Notepad++ for some reason, but regexr shows this as working: replace (.{1,80})( +|$\n?)|(.{1,80}) with $1$3\n
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that breaks every line, at 80 or less, on a space
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I wonder what about that regex makes it incompatible with NP++ ... it looks fairly standard
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Speaking of apple... I see that in Cecil B Demille's the Ten commandments, that his TABLETS were rectangular with rounded corners... this predates Apple's iPad. Can Cecil sue for $1 billion?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you want to see it working, http://regexr.com?31v5h
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can sue for anything these days
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: What other shape might a tablet take on? I know there was more then that involved but that was one of the biggies.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wasn't
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: triangle of course! http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/triangle_tablet.png
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks for help all, aard note formatter was the easiest way for me
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: is there a special entity in vbscript for '=' like & for '&' or < for '<'
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Speaking of apple... w
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: hi all. just signed up to be a tester but when i go on the testing port it recognixes my profile but says my password is wrong. Any ideas on how to correct this?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use your last password
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: i did
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go back even further
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: i logged off the main port and logged back in with the same password
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: i can't i've only had 1 password
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pfiles are only created there occasionally, although there's now a command over there to update your pfile
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: ok cool. any idea what the command is?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you'd have to be logged in there first, and it'd be in help testcommands
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone using winkle's spellup script?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people do
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask if someone knows something, uses something, can help with something
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask your actual question
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: actual question: Do you have your clan skills loaded in it so that it keeps them up?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a special command just for that
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i switched from ww spellup to bast'ts ... because i couldnt figure out hwo to add specific spells to winkle's ... such as pcleric/oracle -> focused vision
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: haha
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: read the help, it says exactly what to do
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I've had my clan skill set but it doesn't keep it up.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Set it using the command, it works fine.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I use it with no problem, all I did was follow the instructions in the winkle helpfile
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note: it'll only work with your v2 clanskill, NOT your v1 clanskill
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: does it toggle them on or off if you repeat the setclansn command?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your spellup clanskill napalm works, AWOL is a utility skill, not a spellup skill
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I don't know, but you shouldn't have much problem testing that.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I'll play with it
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks as always
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so SetClanSn 606
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: was there a way to set pclass specific spells ?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like what?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I've had no problem with getting the plugin to recognize pclass skills/spells that are included in the normal spellup command
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing special about pclass-only abilities, any more than any other
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: focused vision :/ i could get it to cast the spell but couldnt figure out how to make ww notice that it fell off
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that's what I entered, but I also entered '52' for awol. But since awol isn't a skill then it might have cancelled it out
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: focused vision is just another spell with recovery, it should work fine as long as it's not set as noauto
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there is no recovery on focused visiou
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Is focused vision even a buff?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: Spell : Focused vision (03:08)
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I'd personally not want it on most of the time
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: why not ?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because I'd want it on when it's useful, rather than being stuck with a recovery when I'm looking for a target
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: again ... there is no recovery ... i keep it on all the time
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is definitely a recovery, its duration may just not be a problem
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: where are the recoveries listed ?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i just cast f-vis and You do not have any recovery times.
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's listed as recovery #38, the "focus" recovery
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there anyway to set 2 different entrances to a zone ... 1 for portal 1 for non-portal
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: alias something to mapper walkto
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: within winkle's xrt, no
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er, how is my solution bad?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyother way youknow of ?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper itself doesn't care about entrances to zones
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't even need mapper walkto for what I believe is the main reason for the question...mapper goto is fine
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: well if i try to xrt to citadel ,it tells me it cannot go there because entrance is set to portal location :/
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and im not quite high enough to use the portal
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: So change the entrance
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You can set portal level with mapper, as well
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: and change the portal level
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yea
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: realized that's a better solution
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: setting portal level wouldn't fix the issue
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i can 'xset mark' a room to flag it as entrance to zone but then ill have to change it back when i get high enough to use portal
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his issue is that he's trying to run to room 14997 rather than room 14960
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias citwalk mapper goto 14960
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: tier a couple of times :p
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: riddim: working on it ... abe: good idea
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using mapper walkto would disallow ANY portals to be used, while mapper goto 14960 would still use eligible portals
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: if i just created a new portal/alias to the bottom entrance .. think tha tmight work ?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what would that portal do?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: pausing cit issue for gq
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no cit issue for gq or otherwise
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're trying to tell the mapper to goto a room for which there is no path...the only "solution" to that is not to do that
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead, tell the mapper to goto a room for which there are paths...no jimmying of portals to the start will help...the mapper already knows how to get to the start...just LET IT
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: anyone else play around with Nightly? I find it funny a test build of a browser is more stable than IE9
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: our payroll software company told us to use IE9 to access their system. Ridiculous...
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as opposed to what?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: as opposed to IE7 or IE8
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can imagine why, neither 7 nor 8 are standards compliant, 7 especially so
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, ADP's admin interface didn't work in IE9
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: IE9 doesn't run on XP. Only Vista/7/8
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what about it?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use firefox
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: we use IE7 for access certain customer web portals. IE8 will not even in Compat mode
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: evil jspx sites
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, I walked into a Office Depot. They have their items at a 5% mark-up over what I found at Staples. lol
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: anyone have a free second to help me with the mapper on MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what kind of help
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: my knowledge is limited
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I think it's simple. If there is a door in my way, my mapper goto won't work, it'll run into the door. And if I do mapper cexit open east
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: or whatever. it'll acknowledge the command, but then when i do mapper goto xxxxx, it'll just do open door and wait there
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: use two semicoloans
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: use ;
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: use ;;
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: nod 2
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: gotta use the cexit (custom exit) but gotta tell it what to do AFTER it opens the door
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: just one ; will seperate the commands incorrectly
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: example mapper cexit open e;e
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: ? I'm slightly confused
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: with 2 semi's
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: ok no longer confused, tyty
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: my second one didn't type
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: mapper cexit open e;e
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: oO won't type two
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: KK, got it. Thanks a bunch guys
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Gnar, you need to use more semicolons :P
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: e;
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: more definately not the answer =P it cleared everything behind the semi's when i used 3
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: create alias opr -> open ;
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mapper cexit opr e
T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, the Mars rover found a pocket of gas with heavier-than-expected methane gas on Mars...until they realized that it still had gas from earth in its test chamber.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just realised I haven't put a pdf viewer on this new box yet - I usually use pdfxc, but lately it's become a bit bloaty - what do you guys use?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: xpdf
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: google chrome
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use chrome...not a fan of the native viewer :-( Was actually what led me to realise I hadn't installed anything yet :-P
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: When modelling databases (with SQL Power Architect, but that shouldn't matter), how do I do the foreign keys, which way do they go?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for anyone famliar with php, and mysql... I'm still learning, and I'm confused on how to convert this, echo '
'.$row['posted_by']
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for anyone famliar with php, and mysql... I'm still learning, and I'm confused on how to convert this, echo ' |
'.$row['posted_by'](semicolon here) echo ' | '
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for anyone famliar with php, and mysql... I'm still learning, and I'm confused on how to convert this, echo '
'.$row['posted_by'](semicolon here) echo ' | '(semicolon here) to the same exact thing, but making .row['posted_by'] appear as a link sorry about the repeating messages.. forgot to pull out the semicolons.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: use a double semicolon to display one in the mud
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: oh ok.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or start with a semicolon (disables semicolon parsing for that one command)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if mush
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: echo '
'.$row['posted_by']; echo ' | ';
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: heheh much better, I'll remember that for next time.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: echo '
',$row['posted_by'],' |
';
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A cute Yulian Tech: ; that is so cool ; bah
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and Mars, if you wanna be able to read the "view source" output in browser... add \n to the end of echos.... echo "text\n";
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i found that much easier to see when i had something screwy :P
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: why won't extended runto work with diatz?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: what's extended runto?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's mapper extender's xrt
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: got it to work. xset mark.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: starting to get real sick of winklewinkle
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that's how you set every area, so dunno why you wouldn't have done that to diatz :P
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's actually the one of winkle's I like
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: did not have to set it with the other areas.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sounds like an intersting script... can you set runtos for rooms within areas?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ozzy appreciate your response thank you :)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy: all it does is use the normal mapper goto for pathfinding, you just set a room to be considered the 'first' room of the area, so when you xrt it knows where to go...the mapper itself doesn't let you goto an area, just a room UID
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i dunno why i learned it the way i did, but all my echos use double quotes and () ....
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: echo(" td align='center'f_nt color='magenta'" . $log[0] . "
-br" . $log[1] . "/td\n");
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i cant send font tags in zmud :P
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone have issues with non-delivery of hotmail messages today?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: anyone know the rove client?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know why PartitionMagic sees my second HD as "Bad" , yet windows xp sees and works with it just fine?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an old copy of PM ?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope, version 8... :-(
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if PM is in Dos-based mode, Windows may be hiding the drive from PM (per some MsConfig option) ?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm...it sees that there IS a drive there, but doesn't think it has a drive letter and just marks the whole space as literally "Bad"
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what type of drive does XP say the drive is (Fat32 or ..)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: NTFS, as is my primary HD (C:)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and what type of physical drive
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does PM handle NTFS
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the drive encrypted or compressed or something fancy
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope and not partitioned either...that's why I'm even messing with it so I can plays with Win8 Release
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I mean doesn't have multiple logical partitions
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gah, steam forums are ghastly
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hl2 keeps crashing while playing a 3rd party mod, think i can find any help for it? can i balls
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i give up, they've fucked source up so that it won't run reliably on xp anymore
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even crashes when you switch task out of the window
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahhh for simpler times when things worked properly
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can canonical name records be used to set up subdomains?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ok here's my issue with winkle's spellup. I "SetClanSn 606" and I get "You do not know a 'napalm' spell." when it tries to cast it.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any suggestions for good free hosting sites, with php, mysql, and no ads?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: you're asking too much lol
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I would normally say the same but I have a feeling there are options out there...
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: My Mushclient ascii map seems to have stopped working. I see the map when I type map and all the plugin shows is "Map will appear here once you start playing" All tags that should be on are on. Anyone know whats wrong?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload the plugin, double-check the very last line of "tags"
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: try mud command "automap"
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: or I probably misunderstood the question
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Reloaded the plugin, still doesnt work. Bottom line says Yes. I also disabled triggers to see which tags are showing, I can see the {chan} ones but no {MAPSTART} or {MAPEND} yet its on.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bottom line never says YES
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Did you toggle 'maptags' ?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: I mean it says On, sorry
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Yeah, its also on. Still no tags when using the map command.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the map plugin, select 'echo map in main output'
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the message stays even when moving rooms?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: on the theme of maps, it is possible to get the map room# in the status bar?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's entirely possible, yes
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: easily?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd just have to set it up
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: I dont see an option like that when its right clicked, and it keeps saying the message even when moving. Aard seems to have stopped sending the map tags to me.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not hard, just need to make a plugin (or edit an existing statusbar plugin) to accept the OnPluginBroadcast from the gmcp handler
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: are you using the standard ascii map included in the aard package? It should say "echo map in main output" Maybe you are using another ascii map?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Im going to try disabling all plugins. Its the same one in the main package, yet a slightly older version. Im using an older version of the mushclient package.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: all plugins disabled, I see every other tag exept the map tags.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: that might be ok, the plugin could turn on/off the maptags itself
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: try typing maptags manually
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Its on but I still see nothing, with and without the plugin.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: The plugins window shows its version 2 of the ASCII mapper.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest downloading the latest aardmush...connect to Aard with it before moving any of your stuff over, ensure that it's working properly...then move your stuff over
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Alright, gonna try that. Hope it works :D
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: New version works :D Thanks everyone
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: if I wanna connect to aard on my iphone, what app do I need?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: First toss the iPhone away.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because, you know, that was completely helpful of Trisha.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anything that connects to telnet on an iPhone, you'll be good to go. Alternatively, you can use teamviewer and access your home computer and use the computer client. ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Thank you Etzli, Apple products are truely junk and the lastest case against Samsung just proved that.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I love my ipad
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Doesn't mean you have to be a prick about it. It's okay to not like things, you know, but if someone's asking a question, the proper response is almost never, "Your - is junk, toss it."
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Well this belongs on debate channel and not tech.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Etzli I am not putting Apple down, just there business stratgies, I think they have some good products myself, but there business practices is what I question.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Ashiya, there are a few mud clients for the iphone now. There is a new one called TMC that is free.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: trisha: We all, just now, saw you type both "Apple products are truely junk" and "I think they have some good products myself"
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: as door stops yes.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: sorry to put that in my former statement.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Forgot
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you're just backpeddling all over the place today
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no u
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Nah, Apple products are overpriced and just pure junk, but make nice door stops.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: The sad thing is I once owned an iPhone, worst phone I ever had.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: so I know what I am talking about.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fiendish once posted a link to YouTube. Plain and simple, "It's okay to not like things, it's okay, but don't be a dick about it. It's okay to not like things... Don't be a dick about the things you don't like."
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should take it to heart. ;)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dashiell Tech: I'd never own an apple, but that's personal preference. Some people like it. Some people also like eating raw haggis.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dashiell stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I had Macs, I had the windows computers, I prefer the windows systems, but now I moved to the Linux systems. Why, because free enterprise, Apple is trying to lock down a market.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the neckbeard is strong in this one
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Like I said before, toss the iPhoneie in the trash and get a real phone.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh the real issue isn't the phone it is how much you pay for service
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: and if you want to know I am on the ATT network.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure whats your number?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If your only answer is to toss the phone, then why answer at all? Ashiya didn't ask "What phone should I get to play Aardwolf through?" She asked "What program should I use for my iPhone?" *shrug* Oh well. Some people.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh well if that is what this is about, mudding while driving is dangerous AND illegal
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Etzli didn't I say this should of been taken to debate awhile ago? Let those that want tech answers have on tech.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...everyone disabled Java 1.7, right?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: no why
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Whats wrong with it?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Another exploit I presume..
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Full on 0-day exploit, all browsers, all O/S, 100% available payload
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: welp, excuse me while I go uninstall it haha. What about 1.6?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1.6 is not affected
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: all version of java 7? or just the most recent 7.0.6
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: using webdevelopertoolbar I disable java all the time by default
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it only affects in browser, not desktop apps
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yeah, all versions of 1.7
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Patch apparently not expected until Oct 16 because Oracle are retarded
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Wow, why let a 0-day sit unpatched for that long? -_- dumb...
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Almost as bad as HP >.>
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because 'that is their patch schedule and it is as perfect as Jesus' I believe is the reason
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Excuse me while I go grab this 0-day and make my own 'sploit.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A couple of white hat groups have made unofficial patches, but they are only giving them out to businesses who request them (as the patches completely reveal what the exploit is and how to use it)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: But you can find the whole exploit anyway. Not like it's a secret anymore.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ok here's my issue with winkle's spellup. I "SetClanSn 606" and I get "You do not know a 'napalm' spell." Why is it trying to cast it?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Are you trying to cast napalm?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Napalm is spell 606
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or rather, is the plugin trying to cast it via the 'cast' command ?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: type "slist" and then look for the spell you want to cast
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: this is in Winkle's spellup script.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't use any of Winkle's bots
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Dude, it works right, just follow the instructions.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the plugin is trying to cast it even though I have it set using SetClanSn
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: who is this mysterious winkle person anyway
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it won't work right...there's a glitch on aard affecting it right now
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: he's the 3rd person I was told to check out for legal scripts
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you look at slist, napalm's entry is 606,napalm,0,0,0,-1,1
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that last character needs to be a 2
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I see
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll post to bugs board
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, it is legal to use a trigger to recast it?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I had to look up what the last digit was in that output. :)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help slist, it's what tells the script if it's a spell (cast it) or a skill (use as a command)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's expressly telling the spellup script to use cast, and then rejecting that syntax
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: an impressive script. Simple and effective
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks abe
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, there's a dozen of the same available
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: well, I'm a Lua newbie so I like it :P
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: don't cry, but I spend more time in Python, Java and PL/SQL these days. Hard to change gears.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks for posting the bug too, Abe
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is there a way to enable/disable groups in MUSH? Such as EnableGroup("groupname",true)?
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "groups"
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can put triggers/aliases in groups.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean like classes in zc/zmud, then yes
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnableTriggerGroup, EnableAliasGroup, etc
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: EnableTriggerGroup("group", true/false)
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: EnableAliasGroup, EnableTimerGroup, EnableTriggerGroup
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, thank you.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Makes my job easlier.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each type of "thing" is a separate group
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how are you guys accessing the test port? Are you running a separate MC install or are you running another world in MC beside the live? If the latter, then how do I get my plugins to work on a second world? Thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use a different client
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I think that would be easier
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend a separate MC
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: sounds good, thanks
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uhh
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just create a second world file
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then load your plugins in that world too
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah...copy of the mcl, and the mapper file as well - works no problems
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no need for two mushclient instances
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you c&p you don't even need to reinstall the plugins
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you do need to make sure your mapper db filename matches your world name
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, yes, whatever you copy does need to match itself :-P
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's two different things, so it wouldn't be matching itself...
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I rarely recommend leaving the name " Copy" that Windows assigns
T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my pw isn't working on the test port. What should I do?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: free ipad mud client
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: i may never sleep again
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: what can be done to remove the horizontal line that suddenly appeared on my lcd screen? i tried rebooting, but nothing happened. it's still there.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Replace the screen?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: is there no remedy for it?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is a line of dead pixels...you can try massaging the screen, but 99% of them time she's dead, bro
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: them = the
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There are supposedly some software that can "fix" dead pixels.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol Etzli :-) It'
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's a physical fault most of the time, and if it's software issues the massaging and turn off/turn on will do it too
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: ok, thanks Vakieh and Etzli :)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea... if the lcd is just old and been off for a while, the pixel software can help, i hav a bunch of p150 thinkpads it worked wonders on, not completely, but a lot came back... http://www.majorgeeks.com/Dans_Dead_Pixel_Fixer_d5571.html
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: ok, thanks, ozzy will try that :)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: should be more simple. You get +18 to all from tier pin alone, more eq choices...
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know how to set up a subdomain with dns records?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: if I have a directory that has a file that is using the require_once function of php, and it's requiring a fild in a different directory that is below the current directory, how do I list that. currently I just have a second copy in the folder, but that seems a waste of space, but I can't seem to get it right
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: php is the medium btw
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: require("sub/file.inc"); ?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or require("../file.inc"); for the other direction
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ah 2 periods, I used 1 maybe that was the issue :)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier to set an includ dir in php settings and put everything in that dir
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sweet, Pandora is back in Australia - now I can use it without the VPN, which slowed it considerably
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ini_set('include_path', '/home/account/public_html/include');
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Anyone else having problems reaching TPB with Google DNS or is it just me? -_-
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Is it considered botting if you create a mapper cexit that buys a key or kills aguard for a key?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you didn't build that
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: killing, definitely
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no I didn't. Just asking
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, yeah killing, duh. What if it just buys a key/pass?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not botting if you have boobies
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or if Obama tells you it isn't
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: then I'm not qualified lol
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm just making mapper notes that tell me what to do.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: any tips for getting to Vidblain locations easily? I want to get to Sendhia faster.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Is there a way to force restart one of the old iPods? It's stuck on this screen. The screen was there, and I paid no attention to it when I put it on the charger... But taking it off this morning, I see it's still at the screen. Moving the options doesn't help, just makes a noise. Holding the play button does nothing, either.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pay Steve Jobs's estate some money
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: No. D:
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone vaguely familiar with dokuwiki tell me why it bombs when it tries to process css.php?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocashforu Tech: has anyone found a working inventory plugin for MUSH 4.81 client?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: seems like mushclient turns off after 15 minutes when i close my laptop. is there anyway to make that time 30 mins?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I don't think it's mushclients fault, it doesn't care about your laptop lid
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: More than likely, you have hibernation or sleep set on your laptop.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Usually, when that happens, your laptop, in an effort to conserve power, will shut off your network connections.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll want to mess around with your power options.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: but i still seem to get off 15 minutes off my quest timer everytime i close my laptop.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Your power options can be modified to shut off at 15 minutes, 30 minutes, hour, etc.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So your laptop, not getting usage after 15 minutes, says, "Okay, time to shut everything off to conserve power!"
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I tend to keep mine "Always on" even when on battery. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mine did it with wireless connection. Turned it off as soon as I closed the lid. That means that it cannot get any packet to mud, not even the RST packet - so the mud thinks for the next 15 minutes that you are still connected.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Huan.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocashforu Tech: im trying to load bast's quest miniwindow but it's not showing up, i've tried reinstalling the plugin already. can anyone help me?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: useful plugin but glitchy a bit
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocashforu Tech: no way to fix it? any other plugins that has that same option?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: do you also have the tabwin plugin installed? It doesn't always show the window, until you are on a quest
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: wtf is the verb for when you limit bandwidth? I forgot
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: throttle
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: or cap?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: no thank you, I'm not into S&M
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: actually it was throttle, tyvm :)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's capping when it's limiting data
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: throttling is slowing the connection
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But the way some ISPs handle is you have a "cap" of 5gb (or whatever) and everything after that is throttled.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: time for me to boast that i have unlimited 100/20 mbit fibre that isn't capped or throttled. 24 euros a month
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: grats :)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (also includes tv and phone)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nice! not sure if 24 euros is a lot or not, but still nice
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: about 30 usd, maybe?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: wow that is nice!
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: I'm getting a new comp, so I have a question about programs. If I coppied the whole Mushclient_rave folder into the folder where all of my programs are and hit MUSHCLIENT.exe would it work?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Entire folder yes
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: And that would work fine for all programs that are in a folder with all of their info?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in general, modern applications will NOT install like that so you shouldn't do that.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient works like that, but yeah won't work with other programs most likely.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: I was just asking because I don't actually see an install file for Mush or the other client I run.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Most clients are fully portable, they don't need registry info or the like
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anything that has to write to the registry, install dlls, or store files in %PROGRAMDATA% or %APPDATA% will potentially not work is copied directly
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can only speak to Mushclient personally. Straight copy of the entire Mushclient folder is all you need for all settings and plugins etc. As long as you didn't install any plugins manually from another folder.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I zip up my MC folder and move it to my other systems when I make changes to plugins, aard layouts, etc
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I am almost exclusively MC now. I was using tintin++ on my Ubu netbook but I've just put too much time into my mapper and stuff to live without it :)
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Somebody help me shut up Google Chrome's auto-close command.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I routinely accidentaly hit it, the command to close down the Chrome window, while writing long posts on forums and have to rewrite them.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to remove it from Chrome?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What's the command?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't even know. It's some weird hidden command Chrome's support site doesn't even list.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I think it involves Shift or CTRL.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you should stop chording keys while writing forum notes
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I've never heard of one like that.. The only command to close Chrome I know of is Alt-F4 and that's pretty hard to accidentally hit,
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have fat fingers. I'm lucky to MISS F4 when I hit Alt. :(
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that only happens when I type with my penis
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarkthos Tech: there's also ctrl+shift+w
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: True story. I type with five mini-chopsticks on each hand.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Gotta be CTRl+Shift W. I think it's when I accidentally hit Shift or CTRL while hitting W for some reason.
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know a good spellup plugin and a good quest plugin?
T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: finger winklewinkle and bast
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i need to get a printer and i'm looking for one that has cheaper ink (printing cost over multiple pages) would that be laser ot inkjet?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: or*
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Laser costs less for high volume printing
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: and the print is more permanent
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so... i guess if you don't have the default text size in windows, resetaard is useless...
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thanks Bezaleel
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: np (o:
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Any Symfony users around?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone know if mush is multi thread ?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is not multithreaded
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: any idea why not ?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: making some scripting engines to cooperate with threads is pain in the behind
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why should it be? :P
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Because it's a telnet program, would be my guess.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 1 thread to handle actual client server interaction ... another thread to process plugins ... heck multiple threads to handle plugins possible
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I think that's the real reason. Why would MUSH need multiple threads? It's not doing anything intensive.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ^
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that way if plugins cause bottle necking in processing it wont actually effect the client server interaction
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: for all the 3D graphics, duh
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: They shouldn't, you're parsing small amounts of text.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Does that actually happen (bottlenecking)?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush does more CPU intensive activities than most high end games - they tend to go GPU
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: some plugins on some computers boggs them down hella
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Like, if your script is causing a bottleneck on a modern processer, your script is doing something weird.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The DB's I run take more processing power than Skyrim on Ultra, Crysis 2 on Ultra, etc
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: It seems like it would be way less development work to write the plugins better.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bast's StatDB can be very intensive, a fully loaded gmcp mapper as well
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: My guess is the DB plugins you are using could be written much more efficiently :)
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's mainly because of disk writes, it has nothing to do with processing power
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: only bottleneck I see is when starting the client, and it's bound by disk IO (I suspect it's because all the sqlite open/query/close, repeated many times)
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so why not give plugins a different thread and have them capable of running on seperate processor from main exe
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Because that's a huge amount of work?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because sychronisation is tricky at the best of times
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: synch*
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and because when he wrote it some 10 years ago, threads weren't half as reliable as they are now
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Writing multithreaded code is a huge pain, and it makes everything else you do with it later on much more difficult.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: synchronization doesn't even make sense. The text arrives sequentially, and trigger must fire one after another
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Schnapps, I beg to differ.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: modularizing makes it harder to maintain ?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: To me, it's much easier to launch a task and know that the function returns without blocking. And the work gets done eventually by someone else.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I however, agree with both Huan and Schnapps, the question is not "why not do it?" the question is "why do it?" and their are no positives that outweight the negatives with "why do it?"
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: <- is a proponent of well-designed thready systems
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he would have to rewrite the entire client, it wouldn't even be MUSHclient at that point and we see how well the went when Zugg went with CMUD
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Cizra: if you start from the ground up with that in mind, that's true for many cases. In this case, since you're trying to sync up with the user/buffer, it's more complicated. Also we're talking about an existing piece of software, so to do it "right" would be a full rewrite.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: a full rewrite which would offer little performance gain except in a very small minority of users
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: who are somehow writing CPU intensive scripts that parse short txt files
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ive coded multi-threaded server applicatiosn that deligate different varieties of information to the specific threads setup to handle the informaiton ... allows for synchornous processing of data
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: I don't see the Mud as being hugely resource dependent. But if it utilizes only 1 core, couldn't it slow down othere apps that are running?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exactly the opposite, really
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Imalish, then develop a new MUD client :)
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Imalish / i suck arse at windows development :(
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heck, AARD is not multithreaded, and it seems to handle all of us just fine
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: So don't develop in windows.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Imalish :P thats something i wanted to ask lasher about
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aard runs on a server grade CPU, however...
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and bezaleel, no
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There are plenty of libraries allowing easy portability. Qt, GTK2, whatnot.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH not being multithreaded wouldn't impact other programs
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: "server grade CPU" often means _less_ per-thread performance, rarely more :p
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because your OS is multithreaded
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: There is little reason to "upgrade" to a multithreaded server/client is there are no performance issues.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so while MUSH is only on one core, that leaves all the other cores available...and while it's only on one core, it doesn't even get to hog that core
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: how do you think it would work if the processing load of the plugins were handled by a seperate thread than the communication ?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why bother? I can't imagine telnet takes up any real amount of CPU.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Only if you telnet to the chargen port...
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Curious, why do you want to suggest to Lasher that he rewrites Aard to use a multithreaded environment? Are there server side performance issues that aren't related to disc i/o or bandwidth?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, one reason to multithread is so you can do (slow) i/o in a thread without affecting the rest of the application, so it could improve aard performance. If that was necessary.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: multi-threading server can allow commands and channels to run parrell :/
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Back on my old pc I would have said it was needed...running Mush on an overclocked i7 and SSD I no longer notice it :-P
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Imalish, consider that "running" channels doesn't take much time, and synchronizing the threads and schelduling and whatnot also takes time!
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The mud is pulse based - any multithreading would probably screw with that no end
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: actually not. It can be done just fine, for limited tasks.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: the combat is pulse based ... processing of commands in queue from user based on the pulses could be handled seperately from non-combat functions
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, combat is round based, pulse includes all functionality afaik
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: My mushclient is taking 110000 kb of my memory work. is it anyway to make it go smother?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Have it store less lines in the output window.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: how do i change the lines?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mine is taking half a gig in memory
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: That's probably what is taking up most of the memory, because most mush clients aren't very resource heavy. And If you are using MUSHCLient its under Game>Configure>Output
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush has some pretty serious mem leaks, especially in the GMCP mapper, I've found
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right now after 4 hours my Mush is at 227meg. Biggest I've seen was after 9 days, 1.4 gig
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Mines not even at 30k yet
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i just shutdown and restarted mush ... went from 580mb to 82mb
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: memory leaks?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: my input => server reaction is like 3-5 seconds at time
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That would be 99% network latency, if not 99.99999%
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Sounds like a bad connection..
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: That has nothing to do with multi-thrading, or CPU, or whatever
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Try opening a command prompt on your computer and pinging google
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: then try pinging aardwolf.com
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: See how many ms it takes to ping the server
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to google.com Min: 15 Avg: 20 Max: 31
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, what country are you in...
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: if google has significantly less ping then aardwolf try a tracert, see which hop is casing the lag.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: With that latency, the moon?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm in AU and manage a 300ms ping to aard, give or take
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to aardmud.org Min: 62 Avg: 62 Max: 63
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: in the us ... Minimum = 54ms, Maximum = 59ms, Average = 57ms
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oregon US here
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: mines about 54ms ping.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: -> google 20-30 ms
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try pinging when you have the problem... I am not sure it's network latency, could be client problems too.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. same as me Imalish :P
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Can't imagine mushclient is doing that though, unless you built a horrible plug in.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you may have too many plugins. I know that at least eqdb analyzes everything you send to the mud to do some replacement, and if the analysis includes sqlite queries, it could cause a lag... I just commented it out
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so either its al
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i know why i get my lag
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Triggers: 2010 Aliases: 494 Variables: 801 Paths: 0 Macros: 58 Class Folders: 523 Mapped Zones: 290 with 31747 rooms. Menus: 8 Tabwords: 80 Status Windows: 6 Directions: 10 Buttons: 30
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i put lines to minimum 200, and still it'
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i put lines to minimum 200, and still it's at 75000 kb. is there anyway to make it go even smother?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 75000 kb of memory is perfectly fine...
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's pretty decnt for a client with scripts
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The memory used isn't going to make it run faster or slower, RAM isn't CPU isn't HDD/SDD writing
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's nothing compared to a browser :P
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/sshot.png
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Well the memory actually could make it slower if it starts paging.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right now I have Mush at 227, Chrome at like 1gb total, VS at 1gb, and Photoshop being a beast at 5gb :-P
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: But only when it starts paging.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: skype is using 142MB. dunno the hell it's doing with that
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Apps today tend to be memory hogs. Lots of programmers today don't learn proper memory management. Memory is too cheap.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: It probably takes a fair amount of memory to log everything for the NSA.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why bother with coding for memory management if it's not needed?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: irssi is taking 63MB on my vps :\
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So you can run more than 1 app at a time.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Because it's bad practice, plus it makes apps slower.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, wait, 39M. 63MB paged.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so ive had a constant ping running ... for the most part it stays around 60ms ... spiking occasionally to 1k-timeout ... that just killed me in fact
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "help wimp". 1-second pings shouldn't kill you.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 5 second lag in battle can kill tho
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: unless wimp takes you to even worse room
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: real men use wimp 0
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my mapper without any support scripts does absolutly nothing
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is mush opensource ?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the client, yes
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I think that it is freeware, but not public domain or open source
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it is open source, what's the URL to download the code?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: umm, google it
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I did, seems to be freeware, not open source.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: source code is available on github, if it's enough open for you :)
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Found it.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Technically MUSHclient is Open Source, however you can only access the source code through a subversioning engine, making it require a bit more skill to compile from source, than fetching a tarball and building."
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you need MFC to make any use of the source
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is no technically to it, it is open source, open source has nothing to do with how hard it is to build
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that answers my question .... should i get the source i am free to attempt my own modifications and to allow others to use my modified version so long as i provide original license information
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It depends on what license the project uses.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it's on github, can't I use git to get it?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bast: I was pulling a direct quote, which said "technically". *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, I read subversion instead of subversioning...
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: from gammon.au ... src -> http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/src/
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: k, and there is a git link at the top of https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient to use git
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: source is bundled in gzip compressed tarball
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: starred on github :)
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a free flac to mp3 converter?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Audacity? SoX? http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra uses mplayer + lame
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: dbPowerAmp is absolutely fantastic for large-scale FLAC -> MP3 stuff, worth the money is it's something you do commonly
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ummm. Whats' so fantastic about it?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Does it copy the metadata tags or something?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's easy to use, handles large batches well, and yes, it copies the metadata tags.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Can set up new folders based on tags, blahblahblah.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I mean obivously if you have a solution that works, stick with it, just saying it's fairly cheap and I've had a lot of success with it.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Bloody Bladedge Tech: the screen on my LCD tv got damaged, are there places that will buy it for the parts inside
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: Is there a way to turn off line wrap or make the output wider?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: what client? In mush, it's in output configuration, bottom of the screen, "[ ] wrap column at number X"
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: The Aardwolf-Mushclient. I dont have that checkbox ticked in World configuration, but it is still wrapping. I have turned off Wrap in the right click context menu as well.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: The Aardwolf-Mushclient. I dont have that checkbox ticked in World configuration, but it is still wrapping. I have turned off Wrap in the right click context menu as well.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: hmm... looks like the checkbox is broken and doesn't affect anything. You can click "adjust width to size" to fix it
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: Ahh, good idea. Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can make the output wider by just resizing the window. Wrapping won't change for previously received text, but it'll wrap at the wider boundary for future stuff received.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the checkbox is not broken. you just don't know what it does do.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: end effect is the same
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also manually wrapping or unwrapping the aardwolf mushclient package is a really silly thing to do, for the reason given by leinei
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, if you don't want folks using it why keep it around?
T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Numenor Tech: can you play aard on iphone?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Go to Wikipedia, click random article, click the first link not inside [] () "" or {}, repeat. Eventually every page comes back to Philosophy.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just to verify, "^$" matches a blank line in MUSH, right?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: also check out: global prefs -> general -> regexp can match on empty string
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm not a regular user of MUSH, just converting a script over for a friend, and wanted to double check.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: if i gag lets say a mob say in mushclient. Omit from output. ignore case. on the word i want to be ignored. the word dissapears, but still shows up in the communication log window. is there anyway to ignore it from the communication log window too?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The comms log uses gmcp, if you know Lua you can get in and hack in a check
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Pretty sure you can just toggle it off in the COmm log too, no need to hack.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can toggle the whole channel off, you cannot toggle the word off
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh a word
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's trying to gag something...if you didn't want a whole channel, you'd just type the name of it :P
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod. Like a Mob that says something everytime you walk passed it.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Turn off mobsays capture
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can yeah
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: spams the communication log windows pretty good.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah only way to prevent that, with one word, is editing Fiendish's plugin.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Why not make a suggestion to change the offending mob in game though, if it annoys you :)
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Mendaloth, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: there are several offending mobs. but yes, that would be a good idea.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they should at least stop the spamming once you've opened or closed their tasks
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap ABel
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can live with little ones like the lemdagor guy that reminds me that I can buy another knot
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: one example is the mobs down in wyrm. they still spams even when you completed both wyrm1 and 2.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'd just not capture mobsays...the comms plugin is not the most readable of files, being what looks to be a Frankensteinesque collection of several people's work
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It could be done, but then you'd have to repeat your work everytime Fiendish changes the file.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My sneaky edits have stopped me updating for a good 9 months now :D
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I'd just rebase it on top of his changes *loves git*
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or suggest to him that he adds a gag wordlist feature :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Huan, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that or suggesting the offending speech gets removed is the best option
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you could add your current trigger plus add to that list in order to handle cases like this
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Some really annoy me, the really long ones that take up my entire comm log, but I just don't care enough to do anything.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I s'pose I should do the wyrm goals before I tier :-)
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can you just gag the offending text?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, starling just missed the entire context of the discussion :P
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, you make it ignore that
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has anyone ever managed to record a video file of an ingame source-engine product?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I am looking for some zmud help if anyone is still using it
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's going on?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I use cmud, also maintain my old 5.55 scripts
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I have some broken scripts that I really liked using and I really didn't like mush tried it a few times now just don't like the feel of it
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What zmud version, and what are the scripts supposed to do?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: 7.21 mostly spellup and capture windows
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Spellup scripts tend to break due to message changes.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Capture windows, are you using tags?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: yes this is what I figured happened
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: no not using tags
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably best that you do use tags for the capture windows. That's what channel tags were designed for, at any rate.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: most of the capture windows work just a cp gq one that lists the mobs in a cap window that isn't working
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, that's due to recent changes, too, I believe.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: something that changed while I was away last year before the recent changes actually
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They've changed the "Kill blah mobs"
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: they were sort of lumped together triggers, I am not very good at this hehe and I did it a long time ago
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll need to find the individual GQ/CP triggers that contain the line "You still have to kill"
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: any new spellup scripts around?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: for zmud
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I was using yashiros which works sort of still
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I used to have one, but now I've converted it completely to Lua, so it's only usable on CMUD.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: With spellups, you'll probably want to find one that utilizes spelltags.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: that was the one thing I did like about mush client :P the spellup
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's probably a couple out there, but I'm not sure yet. You can just use the in-game spellup command, though.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I mostly do that actually
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I liked the respelling auto thing
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, that's the only downside to the MUD commands - no autorespell.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I have played this way so long it isn't a huge deal but the cap window thing really irritates me
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I wonder if Lasher will ever add that in. :p
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: One or two simple triggers with the builtin spellup command and you have autorespell.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it's never that simple.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Works for me.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Need to check for combat, etc.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I do that, but it's still pretty simple.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I've been programming since the mid 80s, that might be why I consider it "simple"
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Spellup x second after the tick works pretty well as a very simple autospellup that anybody can do with minimal effort.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: One thing I would like to know is how to use a number's bits as flags in cmud.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I am using winkle's search and destroy.. I accidently moved the window to far up and now I can't get it to move at all...just stuck? any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doink patiently twiddles his thumbs.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: xset reset gui
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, second edition of regular expression cookbook just came out
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: other than just pressing the up arrow, is there a way to see a list of all typed commands on much for that session?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: got it
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-h for home viewers
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: anyone know how to make a gmcp repop trig?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Trying to fiz your bot, Arystul? :P
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Fix, even?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: precisely
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Those bees were asking for it.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I'd be surprised if GMCP provides that information, that's just asking for trouble
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: like that person who asked for GMCP to provide a list of campaign mobs and locations
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: It does. comm.repop. What trouble is it asking for more than the zone's human-readable repop message?
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Anyone that intent on getting their trigger to work could just add zone repops as trigger matches, without gmcp.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thats how I do it, 1 zone at a time
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: its got to be a very simple trigger to use gmcp which would work for all zones, I just don't know the gmcp message
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Let's see if this works: comm.repop { "zone": "aylor" }
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: According to aardwiki, that's how it looks. I assume you only get the message for your current zone.
T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: For any help more specific, I'll duck out. If it's not tintin, I don't know it.