T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that was worth runny the proxy for alone... $gmcp.comm.repop.zone amazon T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still wish it woulda been in {repop=amazon} :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ... $gmcp.room.info.exits.s 22007... wtf... is that a mud vnum? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Might wanna check out the wiki page on GMCP stuff T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... and they wanted to stop automation? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Who they? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if Lasher is the only coder... then they=Lasher T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That's just plain incorrect T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's technically a UID, not a VNUM T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: it's not a mud vnum T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: vnums take ALL the work out of mazes T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: That's incorrect too T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a direct map to VNUMs, so there's really very little reason to be called something else, though :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i just asked... someone said yes :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: rooms can be flagged to not give the uid T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't get the exits in a maze T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mazes have their exits randomized on each repop T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so essentially vnums? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: so mazes do have that flag T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Yes, they have a 1-to-1 correlation, but GMCP won't give you UIDs in maze rooms T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do get the current room's UID though, which is why etz and I said we no longer drop stuff to map mazes T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: (some) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP does give you UID in maze rooms, just not exits T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't in nomap rooms or CLAN mazes T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no matter.. if i know EXACTLY which room i am in T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, it makes mapping mazes very trivial T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ... then what? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You still have no idea where to go. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nomap... that should be used more :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i dislike how nomap disables the ingame ascii map though T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 6 choices normally... mapper can map on the fly T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: anyway mazes are slowly getting removed T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cizra: sez you :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: good! i loathe mazes :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: the random ones anyway T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint the fastest thinker nor do i have a good memory :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afaik lasher is designing something that works like lasertag T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, when we had ATCP before GMCP, it DID give the exit UIDs...could walk straight through mazes with no wrong turns :-) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, i rember that briefly in cmud 2 T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with you about your shared secret. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah... someone had to open their mouth and get Lasher to notice that. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Made exploring areas a bit easier at the time. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: made raiding broken too T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Very true. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: mapping has been a bit of a hobby of late... well, the mapping interface anyway :) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: You never really appreciate the complexity of the Mush mapper until you've written it from scratch in Javascript for fun :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Someone has sadistical tendencies ;) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Not so much sadism... it taught me a lot... learned several technologies I was interested in T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, duckbat's proxy has a mush mapper file to duckbat proxy converter T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sir Mandy Mandorallen nods. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: html5 canvas, for one T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I haven't used the proxy T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Guess I better get going on the Gaardian Map Archives 2.0 before we become obsolete. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You already are. *blink* T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli hugs Sir Mandy Mandorallen. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Lasher and I have plans for Aard Client v7... when you're exploring you'll be hand-guided through mazes by a cute asian avatar with blue hair T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Get working on it, faster! :p T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smack Xantcha out of his boots with a sign reading "It's coming in v7 !!" T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: That sounds cool - people will pay to change the avatar's hair colour, you know that. :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: Microtransactions man, that's where it's at. Microtransactions. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: yeah, I'm putting in backdoor code to siphon a percentage of that fee T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, make the avatar look like the ship's avatar in andromeda T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Obyron Tech: A haiku: Microtransactions. / You know that's where it's at, man. / Microtransactions. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: actually, Abelinc, v8 will include a visit by Lexa Doig T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ok... think i got all the gmcp lines grouped and gag'd :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: jeese that was spammy :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the proxy makes you "see" gmcp messages? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: toggle T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's the point...can't act on them without seeing them... T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wanted to see em for zmud thugh T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lots of fun new trigger patterns :) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: ahh, so it's a proxy for clients that don't support the GMCP subchannel protocol? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like mcclient, but for mccp and gmcp T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: hrmph... I just wrote my own... wasn't very hard T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, so did duckbat...but he released it to help others :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like programming illiterate people such as myself :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... char, comm, room... thought i seen another in the proxy config T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Group? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, group is sweet...gets to be a whole lot of data in big groups though T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: must be something else... dont see any new tags for "group" command T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: group ships turned off in the duckbat file I gave you T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: core 1, char 1, comm 1, group 0, room 1 T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change to 1 if you want it...then create a group for yourself to see what it looks like T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can check with protocol gmcp the available packets for gmcp. Don't know if the proxy supports all of them. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for my gmcp trigs, they're a cascade of matches, with a final echoed "I saw GMCP but it didn't match my stuff, look into that", so anything newly added should pop up for me T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod $gmcp.* T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: there we go... $gmcp.group.leader Ozzy T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: jeese... that could get spammy :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pets don't show? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, imagine an epic group of 30+ players :-) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea... might turn that back off, that's a lot of traffic :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but very useful for monitoring health T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $gmcp.group.members.info.hp 11759 and the rest... don't seem to have a ryme or reason to when they show? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nm... only on change T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when something changes, but not more than once per second T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.. and timed T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: now it has rhyme and reason :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all this info is on the wiki's gmcp page :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, being lazy :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the section on group starts: Group GMCP messages are only sent once per second, and are only sent then if the group itself has changed or the vitals/stats of a group member have changed. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bookmarked in on the tablet... good throne room material :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know what proxymud calls itself for the "clients" info? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: ProxyMud 7, assuming you're asking about what you're using. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: type clients... for that T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: guessing ansi or vt100? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Oh, that's listed by Ttype, not by client. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unknown clients T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Which is (null) for what you're using. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont see an unknown row T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: One of the last two rows T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bottom 2 rows, ozzy T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh.. duh.. didnt see the red rows :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unidentified doesn't say what it is, unknown isn't one of the predefined ones Lasher put up top T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: was below the scroll bar :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the top ones are a hand-made list, not necessarily specifically what the client says...like looking at webhost logs for agent vs looking at a report for browsers T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i can barely understand this ccnet stuff.. and i googled apprently some people have two ccie's lol T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: smarter then me... i'd have to google what's a ccie :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: its like less than 3k people in the world have it. its the top cisco cert T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh... jeese T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: there are 3 fields you can specialize in T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you going for one of the spots? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: lolno T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i'm just taking an online class for the lols.. figure out how these tubes bring porn to me T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rofl T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's cool... got some mush functionality in zmud with proxymud... the lastlines commmand shows received lines with @ color codes... i subbed @'s to show as ~@... so now i can copy paste colors without toggling color syntax in zmud T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if that didnt mke sense... http://i.imgur.com/lAys8.png :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: is there a autos roll stop command? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: I'm trying to stop it jumping to any new text as I'm still tryin to read what was reviouy typed? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: Ctrl+space bar in mush T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: I'm using an iphone T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flanny Tech: any idea? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: what client should i use on a blackberry? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I use midpssh T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much else T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can at least macro your login info so that you don't have to type it out every time T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: i cant seem to download it on my bb.. what version? 2 or 1? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: what other functions does midpssh?? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: have* T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have version 1.6.0 T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: As far as mud-related functions, you can macro stuff. It's not a mud client though, I guess you could SSH to a computer that is running an actual mud client, but I don't know much about that. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: Thanks Starling... MidP 2.0 or 1.0? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have version 1.6.0 T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: yeah but theres another thing called midp.. :/ T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I know nothing about that T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: All I know is that midpssh 1.6.0 is sufficient to log into the mud and do things T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The project website is www.xk72.com/midpssh, or you could post on the tech board and someone more knowledgeable than myself can likely advise you. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Puzzled... (cmud) Trying to make a new Macro for KEY2 (numlock) but when i click on the Key box and click the 2 it just puts in a '2' not 'KEY2' like it used to. Any ideas why? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: nm, figured it out. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there any way to make it so the mush database update doesn't alt tab you into mush? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does anyone else use BBSSH on a blackberry?? how di scroll up and down? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Those interested... T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Microsoft's MSDN blog has released a boatload of free ebooks on a range of technologies and programs, including a power users guide for Windows 7, programming Windows 8 apps and Windows Phone 7, SQL Server tutorials, and much more." T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Has anybody ever ripped a DVD then converted it to a .avi or MP4? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy -o dvd.avi -dvd-device /dev/cdrom dvd://1 ... also, you are probably breaking a law by even thinking about doing this, if you live in US T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Well, they're my DVDs that I've bought, I just want them on my external hard drive so I won't have to take a DVD player to school, where it'll probably get stolen. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: is there anyway to turn off the short descriptions of room titles when you're running? I can't seem to find it in config. I set up a trigger for pk rooms and it keeps activating when I'm running through lots of rooms which happen to be pk. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: When you are a run you shouldn't see room descriptions, but you do see titles, is that what you are triggers on? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Also you know you can add PK flag to your prompt right? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: sorry, yes, I meant titles T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: that's interesting no I didn't know that. I actually turned off my prompt because I don't really need it T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I assume there's no way to turn off the titles T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I don't know of any way to turn the titles off, but might be a way to have your trigger check if you are a run and not fire. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: if you are on a ... T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Maybe check GMCP state? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ah, that's interesting okay, I will have a look at that or try and sort out the prompt Thanks for your help :) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do roomnames tags get sent on room you're running through? If not, could just use that when matching the trigger T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, nvm, they do T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Although, you can use that to turn off your notification, if you get to a room that's not PK T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: I'm not sure if I understood you correctly. The problem I'm getting is if I run to a particular room the PK trigger might trigger several times and it gets confusing to know if I've actually landed in a PK or not by the sound T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, you have a sound notification. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Thought it was just something that displayed on your screen or something T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh - other option is does GMCP have a PK room flag - could "trigger" of that. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ah sorry I wasn't being very specific with this I've only just started doing triggers on mush tonight :) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You still get room gmcp info for rooms you run through, though, right? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think the best option would be the earlier suggestion, to keep track of character status, and just check it to see if you're running. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Of course, then you have to figure out how to use GMCP. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh yeah probably - not sure never look at it myself. But yeah sound slike checking gmcp state in the trigger is what you want to do. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that or modify the PK trigger not to fire if the roomname also contains the speedwalk (moves) suffix T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: yes, I will have to read up on that. The other option is to just have a prompt with just PK in it, I guess? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh yeah, I think just checking the moves thing works T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah could do that - I still use a very minimal prompt T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha never knew what that number in parenthsis was. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah there you go problem solved. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming you can come up with a regex that doesn't match on stuff that ends in (###) :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: thanks I will read up on this properly tomorrow when I'm fresh I don't know how to suppress triggers etc T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Using regex, you can just make one trigger that only matches on lines that start with the rname tag, contain the PK text, and doesn't end with (1234). T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferne Tech: ah, I was just looking a regular expressions. I'm not even familiar with that yet but I found the page now and think I understand what you're saying. Many thanks for all your help everyone :) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: What plugin colors QP/CP mobs on scan? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: bast T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: which bast? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes...I had to reload everything but doesn't seem to have come back T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: scan_highlight T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: tho im not sure if it would work w/o his quest plugins T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There are more Zuckerburgs working for Google than Facebook now. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: Hmm, wonder which has more users. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: any chance the forum moduel tracks notes i've read so i don't have to page through a bazzilion to get to the one thats new to me (flagging it w/ my login info maybe)? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it does, yes T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ok, so my SVN local copy has become seriously screwed up. If I want to delete it completely and then get all my changes back in without the "Did not expect * to be a local root", "* already exists", so on and so forth errors, the best way is? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: on the same note, i've managed to get a directory called "PHR" that i can't 'svn del" it just sticks around no matter what I do and now I consistently get the "Directory 'PHR' is missing." error and can't really do anything T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: surely the mapper is recording client side and not server side.. therefore.. people can use other people's mappers to have all the rooms? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes, technically, but you have to find people willing to share their gq advantage T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes, you could use another person's maps. I wouldn't recommend it - at least look at the areas once. Come on :P T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: lol.. just pointing it out :) T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It appears dyndns free accounts expire after 30 days now. Bleh. T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mana T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mischan T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: heal T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: with regards to the mapper and doors, is there a way i can make it open the doors without stopping the goto? T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: add a custom exit T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: many thanks:D T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: how do i set it so the minimap updates T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: the location of other players and what not T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: it only updates when i move currently T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it only updates when the MUD sends you the map... T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: ah T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can manually tell the MUD to send a map by typing "m" T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: i see thanks! T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no MUD setting to automatically send you a new map when someone else in some other room moves T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What in the holy Hell... Amazon's recommendations for me based on "Customers Who Bought Items in Your Recent History Also Bought" consist of 100% gay sex novels and Golden Girls DVDs... T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Kinjin rolls on the floor laughing at Summoner Yuna's antics! T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: so i wanna learn to make scripts, where would one start on reading up on that kinda stuff. mostly wanna be able to highlight text and rightclick options for that text T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.mushclient.com, you want to look at miniwindow tutorials T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: cool cool. thanks T3/r7/2012-08-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i know i can tech myself, i did it with zmud years ago. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: My norton is expired and I do not have the funds for another renew or other program. Any suggestions for a good free program? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i use avast T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: also avast T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Microsoft has free antivirus that is very good T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows Security Essentials is all you need T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: thank you, I will look into those. This is a home pc that is used by all and some sites visited are not reputable T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: lolporn T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gnistar nods. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnistar Tech: and cheesy matchmaking T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: looks a lot easier to see routes and paths... go for it fiendish :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: nodnod, it looks awesome, Fiendish :) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: granted not so much on world map >_> T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: right now Underdark just looks like a bunch of squares. This makes it look a LOT better T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's a musherror attempt to index global 't' (a nil value) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when trying to access something in this lua table T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why would that be T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: when you get a plugin, and it has .lua's should i be putting those into my LUA folder? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i would guess because t is nil T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not nil T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh it's defined in variables, not in script T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: mush thinks differently. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Has anyone had issues with openeing a SVN controlled project in eclipse and without you doing it, somehow losing the .svn directory randomly? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: Hello, anyone knows MushClient well to help me with a problem? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: helps to state the problem T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Have you tried turning it off and on again? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: I installed all the plugins from Bast, as I was recommended. But now my main window refuses to echo any text. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: everything's working fine, except the echo T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You mean chat specifically, or really ANY text? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: in my main window any text. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: Do you have any clue what this might be caused by? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: Anyone has a clue? Or experienced the same after installing Bast's plugins? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: exit mushclient and start it again, everything will be back to normal...there's a command to fix it as well, but I'm too lazy to look it up T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: Abelinc, I restarted it twice now, but it happens again and again T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it often happens when you turn on bast's plugins wholesale rather than choosing plugins T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: Ok. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's plugins are not meant to be enabled as a group...they overlap each other a lot...he has multiple plugins that do the same thing, so you can choose which way of doing that function you want T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when people say "bast's plugins are good", they mean "go look at which ones you want" T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pattex Tech: Abelinc? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can a lua table element be used in a trigger T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: works with a variable, but not with a table T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: how do you mix lua and trigger? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: instead of a variable in the pattern, it has a table element t["name"] T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just use plugin? and place trigger in plugin T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the trigger's in the plugin, the trigger's pattern has a variable, which I want change to a table T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and what are you trying achieve? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: trigger pattern: (table["name"]) Tech: () T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when the text shown is Trachx Tech: and what are you trying achieve? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want it to trigger only if table.name = Trachx T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cept the second () in the pattern are wrong, but you get the idea T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: makes sense ? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems to me that you rather should do something like trigger pattern Tech * and then call function which takes "*" and do what you want T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I could use an if check in the trigger for the name T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or I could write the pattern as (layername) Tech : * T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: point is, it needs to trigger if the name matches the name in the table T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is the * after tech is irrelevent T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: my best guess is that you could check sharptracker plugin source (though I am not sure whether it can help you) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems to me that it is possible to use various functions in trigger action, so also checking for table element should be possible T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well if it's a variable it checks it T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll leave it as a variable, it's a long-ass plugin I don't even know what I'm looking for T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I put variable in trigger pattern it works, but when I change the variable it stops working T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is that T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I change it with asdasd = t.asd T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: too few details T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you mean mush variable, or are you trying to assemble match pattern from lua variables? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: either T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: easiest is to assemble pattern from lua table T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you have to choose, they have too different properties :) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I tried pulling the table element to a variable, then using it in the trigger pattern T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have two variables, when I print them they look the same, however the trigger works on one and not the other T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so I guess it's not set properly, even tho I still see it T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but if pattern can have lua table element T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'd avoid 1 step T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: so... you are saying that Note(variable) displays what you expect, but when you do Note('^' .. variable .. '$'), it doesn't work? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I use print, does it make a different ? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: difference* T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: no idea, I'm not too familiar with lua utilities. Note is mushclient function T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay lemme paste you T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got this first None T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got a lua table, t= {["name"]=Huan} T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it'd be easier if you just pastebin the whole thing, instead of copy/pasteing excerps T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I do name2=t.name T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but is there going to be a (significant) lag cpu overhead when that trigger pattern is refetched each pass from a table (or from a variable) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and name2 is declared the same way as name T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I do print(name), print(name2) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I agree with Cheezburger T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: .. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and if you are going to use that technique in a plugin ... yowzers -- lag city for those with slow cpus T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it sounds like you are confusing world variables (accessed via GetVariable("name")) and lua tables T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: otherwise I have no idea what that xml bit was for T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it makes no difference to me what I'd use, if I can use lua table in the pattern it's better T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Agreed. If you're trying to set a global variable accessable from other aliases/trigger you need to do SetVariable("name2", t["name"]) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: and if you want to use it in trigger pattern, do ^ame2$ and check the "expand variables" checkbox (or do equivalent when modifying the trigger from lua) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: @@ to print @ on aard :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I know, I know... I just forget when pasting code bits T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't work T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will try with setvariable T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Seriously, go to your trigger screen, select the trigger, click the 'copy' button and paste it on pastebin. This whole bits-and-pieces thing is getting us nowhere. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's easiest way to create string list T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like a variable with lot of lines T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: t = { string1 = "myString1", string2 = "myString2"... } T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's kinda a table T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I need to be able to insert stuff in it T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Can't a table just be {"string1", "string2", "string3"}? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: OR t = {} for i=1, 100 do t[i] = line(i) end T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: then use table.insert? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: everything is pain in the ass about this mush T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then don't use it :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So use something else ;) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Scripting is annoying, yes, but very powerful. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: write your own client, it's not that hard! :) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If mush gets too complicated, I use Grae's paper one. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can this be done without tables T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Everything can be done without tables. They just tend to make it easier, when you use them correctly T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: fine so if it's t = {"1", "2", "3"} how do I add 4 T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: mushclient is (almost) free, and supported by uberscriptwriters with uberscripts (so "free") -- other clients may cost rl cash and not come with uberscripts T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: t.insert(4, t.len+1) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does the position matter T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on insert, no T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on removal, yes T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No, it defaults to adding, old habits die hard T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: lua insert used to require a position T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also should 4 have quotes of it's a string or doesn't matter T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Doesn't matter T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If you want it as an integer its easier to supply it as an integer though T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lua technically doesn't have typed variables, typing is done on usage T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: But once you do math or anything on it, lua transforms it to a number T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of Lua, any of you guys tried Corona or Kony for developing mobile applications with Lua? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: what's the function to split a string into words in lua? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if a variable is asd1|asd2|asd3, how do I add ad4 with setvariable T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: SetVariable(GetVariable("name") .. "|ad4") T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are each of those between the | accessible in some way T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: There must be some kind of split function that I asked about just nwo T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I wanna add crap to it and highlight it T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why don't the keypad aliases use Execute anymore? It now uses Send T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I have a clientside alias that enters my portal (say, port), and now putting 'port' in my keypad thingy doesn't work. It just sends 'port' to the mud T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: it just stopped working randomly T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: numlock key on? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: it is on T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: keep the crap in lua table, and do SetVariable("crap", table.concat(crap_table, '|')) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It just seems like the Execute function broke T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luthanos Tech: Hello there! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I would but the damn trigger won't highlight it :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luthanos Tech: one question, if allowed? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: .. and all my triggers seemed to turn off... wut is going on T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: did you paste that trigger already to pastebin? I stopped paying attention when nothing was happening T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a different one T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: Luthanos> don't wait for permission, just ask your question T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luthanos Tech: Okay Huan! Is there another Font , except Dina, that can be used in the main window over Point 12 to keep the tables alive? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ok.. I found out the problem.. all my triggers and aliases are now gone T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Anyone know why? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you back them up somewhere? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If mush doesn't do that automatically, no. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: any fixed font will do. I'm not on windows so I can't provide a list... I remember using fixedsys for a while T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Did you install any plugin recently? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: autosave active with an accidental clear triggers/aliases from a kbd typo-mistake, perhaps T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luthanos Tech: where do i see if a font is fixed? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No plugins recently, but I think I accidentally opened the plugin wizard and pressed ok :/ T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That might have put all of them into a plugin which is gone now T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: trial/error I guess T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luthanos Tech: Okay, thanks Huan, will try! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Is there a way to change the access port on the Blowtorch Aardwolf? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the helpful wizards dsigned to bring divine wind to the scene T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I'm currently using liberation mono, you can try and find this for windows T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Does anyone of a way I could play aardwolf through my smart phone? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: What kind of phone are you looking to use? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If it's an android phone, use blowtorch or similar. If blackberry, midpssh works. I warn you, playing via phone is somewhat painful. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S3, It's running Android icecream sandwich, forget the exact version T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If iphone, get rid of your crappy Apple product. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: You can also get the aardwolf app in the android market, or you can use imud from the iphone. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Steelburg - search the market for aardwolf T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Steelburg: The new ones has 4.0.3 in them. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: so search for aardwolf and use that program, but expect a lot of pain, got it. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Steelburg: Go to Google Play and type in Aardwolf. It will pull up. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: TYVM T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am still trying to figure out how to connect my bluetooth keyboard to my Nexus. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: That program works beautifully :) thank you guys T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turie: this help? http://support.google.com/android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1650159 T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Did not work sadly. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you used that keyboard with other devices? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and corrolary, have you used your nexus with other bluetooths) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Keyboard has been connected to my tablet. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The tablet's bluetooth is off though. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Nexus is connected to my tablet. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Nexus is connects to my tablet. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The Nexus connects to my tablet.* T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting...any error messages? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Just does not see the keyboard. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I wonder if I have to unpair the keyboard on the tablet and see what happens. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does the keyboard have a button and blinky light to say that it's in discoverable mode? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nope. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, without a button for discoverable mode, it is probably only discoverable for like 20-30 seconds after power on T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is a Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android 3.1+ and the Tablet is 4.0.3 and the Nexus is 4.1. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is a red light popping up when I tried to connect the keyboard this time. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the keyboard is only findable when the bluetooth icon is blinking green...there should be a button labelled "Connect" T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am not getting it. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the connect button is on the bottom of the keyboard T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it says rear...stupid close-up picture doesn't make it clear WHERE teh freaking button is, and it's not on any of the labelled drawings T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is the connect button. I did not know it was there. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There we go. The keyboard is connected. Thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, finally found the video...the video shows that it is on the bottom, a couple inches to the left of the battery cover when it's turned over, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15jYEc2QKg#! :-) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I need to get a bluetooth mouse. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, by then, might as well use a whole laptop :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i got tired of wireless keyboards.... batteries lasted long enough, but always seemed to run out with the worst timing possible :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: when browsing porn? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnodnod!! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: has anyone ever tried those bluetooth mice that fold into the smart slot? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like the HP GK872AA T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: jeese... is tht like type 1 thin? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 1/4" T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i dunno if my big hands could handle that T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my usual tech supplier has it for $10...seems neat, but dunno how much "getting used to" it would take T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for 10 i would buy it just to replace the dust cover :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Cool. Codeacademy is now teaching Python. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: btw Abe.. your supplier is making too much... can get retail for $9.76 :P http://www.bigestock.com/hp-gk872aapb.html T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I round T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 8.67 T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: $9.76 is still $10 T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im gtting one just cause of the cat toy in it T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: has a laser pointer :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: good, you're my guinnea pig...in a month I'll ask you how you like it T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: how do I round a number (say, 4.434343) to the nearest hundredth? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: in lua T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try add .005, then truncate to 2 decimal places T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a usual programmy method of rounding without there being a rounding function...dunno if lua has one T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's what I'm looking for T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: return tonumber(string.format("%." .. (idp or 0) .. "f", num)) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I guess I could do it with math.floor() T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: never mind, just thought of this: math.floor(4.43434343*100)/100 T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commas.lua, included with aardmush, includes rounding, duration and commas functions (i.e. minutes, seconds days, and 1,000) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: works for truncation, not rounding T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why I said to add the half first...add half and then truncate equals rounding T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so include commas.lua, then just round() T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ok, thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: round: mod(number,1) < 0.5 and floor(number) or ceil(number) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: actually, that's probably not true for negatives T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: DrawSomething is crash loving! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zynga really sucks in app making. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... my wife plays their crappy stuff T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: how do i make it so words i double click are sent to the chat bar/command bar? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: mush T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunno if there's a double-click action, as opposed to a hover, a click and a right-click action T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: how do i do that? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for double-click, you may need to use a click action with a "have I clicked within a second before?" T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: for main output? none of the above. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: only miniwindows have mouse callbacks, to my knowledge T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmmm, k T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you are double clicking a word, though, it will get highlighted. just copy/paste. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: "You can double-click a word in the output window to select it. You can optionally have it automatically pasted into the command window." T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh...that. yeah! do that! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: how tho? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: surely it says! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: do you know how? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sorry. I'm on my phone at the moment so I can't check T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ahh thank anyways. mush site says u can do it...just doesnt say how T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hold on. let me buy a computer to find out with... T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: BUY?! a computer to check something? what are you, rich? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bulle: game -> configure -> commands T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click "Keyboard preferences" T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a section there on "Double click" T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: sweeet thanks T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: didnt think it would be in keyboard pref section. thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: darn. now I have to sell this computer T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: -6 T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sell a computer... blasphemy! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i think my only computer i still dont own was my 1st and only store bought pc.. a packard hell 486SX25 :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Is there a way to gag someone's name (say its actually a popular word, like...okay, Razor) and not gag that if someone actually says "I need to buy a razor?" T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: is that to get back at me for gagging you last week? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: granola: gmcp has a "player" field for channel communications T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the gag on the gmcp player wouldn't be fooled by the player's name happening to be in the communication T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: Well, couldn't she gag anything with the channel entry? Like, for example, (Friend) Razor: Razor Tech: T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: Or have those omitted from the screen? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor sulks in the corner. Baby!! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you want to write 35 triggers instead of one conditional? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you could, but then you'd need a separate trigger for each channel T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: Which is just fine, I would presume. Depends if that's okay with Granola. Would it be possible to make a command to do that for you? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the most difficult thing, really, is the fact that all channel communications are fully gagged already...what you see is an echo of them... T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Abe, what player are you talking about? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Long Johns goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: And yes it is, you dirty gagger :( T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah, have to hack the comms log to do much of anything T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why don't you just use ignore T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the gmcp message is: comm.channel { "chan": "tech", "msg": "Redryn Tech: why don't you just use ignore", "player": "Redryn" } T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: It'd still show up in channel history. I believe the desired effect is to not see those lines entirely. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Ignore just doesnt cut it anymore, Red T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that "player": "Redryn" is never fooled by the contents of the communication T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: and how do i use that to gag someone? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: a gag on gmcp won't delete lines from history either i believe T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why wouldn't you want to be able to check up on your ignorees with -h? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: correct, -h isn't sent via gmcp, there are no tags, etc, and even the timestamp format is different for different channels T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: because it sickens me. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but really, it's immature to be trying to go to these lengths T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: lol on my part? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but are you at all surprised, abe? :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Excuse the both of you, honestly T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Thanks for your help, but you seriously dont understand this at all. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, we do T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've never actually ignored anyone on aard, and never will...I've had plenty of people try to get to me T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some people are going to annoy you...if they came into your workplace, you'd be expected to acknowledge their existence, take care of them professionally, etc... T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have people ignored for spam reasons mostly...Druzil/Xyliz and alts T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anything they "say" is just text on a screen T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tbh, knowledge is power, including knowledge about what the other pricks are saying T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: guard it well... T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noli Tech: And power corrupts! T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: knowing is half the battle T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: I have the powerrr! :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: so knowlegde corrupts T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go joe T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: Abe: GI Jose? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe in another 10 years ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Long Johns Tech: Oooh, you. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: what's the best way to get bast's eqdb to start over completely? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably delete the database file, if it doesn't reuse aardwolf.db T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: don't think it does. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: looks like there's an eq.db. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: okay, so turf that, instead of running some sort of command? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you could prolly make an alias to delete all easily enough T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try the helpfile for it to see if there's a command, but I would doubt there is T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, I'm not seeing anything likely. T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: though, I may as well try them all. :P T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: DELETE * FROM table_name T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from the page on the plugin: eqdb refresh then eqbd clean or delete the eqdb.db file in the logs directory and reload the plugin T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a reason these people make wiki pages to tell you all this shit T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: gaardian's site down? T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup rith T3/r7/2012-08-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy DjVoltron Tech: weird, when i'm playing an app in facebook, zuma blitz, its supposed to switch ball colors when i right click, recently instead it brings up the flash player menu thing. in chrome. any ideas on a fix? already restarted browser and pc. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: how do i use an alias in my macros? wanna make an alias for my potions because the names of the potions i use change, it would be nice to edit just one alias, than all my restock/quaff macros. i use mush T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: whats the use of 'mapper bounceportal' function, why do i need to set a specific portal to be used to get out of portal-friendly no-recall room if i have the bouncerecall portal set for getting out of no-portal rooms T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: shouldnt the mapper just pick the portal that will get me to my next destination with the shortest route on its own? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: these features kinda confuse me. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If the shortest path through a portal, and you're in a no-portal (but recallable) room, you can tell it how to get out of the no-portal room, basically. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Of vice-versa T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or* T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not all "portals" in the mapper are actually portals. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: eg. the recall command can be a portal T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: other than the recall option....is there any other portals that arnt portals? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: word of recall. c door 'mob'. homecoming T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i set my recall command to the mapper bouncerecall T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ahhh T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: none of thos work with norecall rooms, i see. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: makes perfect sense then. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i love this mapper. so smart. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or say you're in the underdark, and you want to go to the room south of recall, but don't have a garbage can. The shortest path is going to be: enter a portal (doesn't matter which), then recall, then go south T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can tell it which portal you want it to use T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: awesome, thank you. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Anyone know how to get a window back using MUSHclient? Im missing the window that tells me my lvl and my stats T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can try reloading the plugin that controls it T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: yeah just click reinstall in plugin list T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Which I think is Aardowlf_Statmon T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for that T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CheeZy Bot HiSaZuL Tech: newtons T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: how do i remove a cexit on the mapper for mush. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: without rightclicking the room and clicking remove T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "mapper help" says to go to the room and type mapper delete cexits T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i made a cexit in mesolar to enter the hole, i forgot it was a random exit, so i want to break the path T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: oh wow, iunno how i missed that. thanks T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: just remorted and now mapper wants to use portals that are too high for me...any ideas? (Ive logged off btw) T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You'll have to add level checks to your bo--- er, mapper T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I.e. if below the portal's level, use speedwalk, if at or above, use portal T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that feature is built into the mapper...type "mapper help portals" to see the commands for dealing with your portals T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: strange...the normal mud list now shows twice when I kill a cp mob (was suppressed in mushclient before) T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: how do I turn clantalk off in main window (in aardmush) ? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: all channels actually T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: right-click on the communication log window and use the Echo Channels In Main Window submenu T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmpunk Tech: how do i let stat monitor show on gtalk? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmpunk Tech: bast script T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "statmn set" and change the various *chan variables to gtalk T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I highly recommend going to bast's site, click on "wiki", and looking at the info on the plugins there...it gives commands like that T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cmpunk Tech: thanks bast T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he puts the info there so that you can help yourself without everyone needing to keep seeing the same questions asked by different people T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I wanna get the id of an item, would the pattern be like T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: match="^\| Id \: *" T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it's a regex, you'll want (\d+) instead of * T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sweet it works this way T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, that * means "zero or more spaces" T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I saw those listed somewhere I think, I should check them T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I insert stuff into a table, it adds them indexes, like 1 843888664 2 843888664 T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I can't seem to access them with table.1 T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: table[1]? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: just guessing T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tried I think but will try it again T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh works this way... not sure wtf it didn't work before T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mebbe I thought about trying it then I didn't T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what if I wanna clear a table T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: table = nil T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: or table = {} for an empty table T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I restart mush the table will be cleared, right ? it starts as empty then I populate it T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if it's in a plugin, yes T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: where else can I put it so it saves T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and if I put it there, will the plugin be able to access it T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can save it and load on start T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: serializze T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: non-plugin always saves, for plugin, use the save/load routines T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I read here that I can put save_state="y" in the plugin tags T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: where should the serialize stuff be put T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: SetVariable T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye but where should it be T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: SetVariable("yourvar", serialized_data) T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in an OnPluginSaveState event T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like SetVariable("tb8",serialize.save ("tb8")) T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat nods at T-Rex. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but if I'm creating the tb8 in the script tags and it's empty T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: won't it overwrite it ? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it'd be empty again T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: you could test if it exists I think T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just checking before I go find how the f to create the event T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: function OnPluginSaveState() do whatever end T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: iirc T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is the setvar all I have to include in there T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no errors, but it's not saving it when I restart T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or maybe the table being empty is the issue T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme try that T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quit is an autosave action... T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis :P T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, why would it save an empty table...empty table is lua's signal for it to be OK to delete the table on garbage collection T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no no it's not empty T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just mean I create it in the script tags T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so if it reloads the stuff in it, then the tb8 = {} might jsut delete it I dunno T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but no, seems there's an error with the pluginsavestate stuff T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: attempt to index global 'serialize' (a nil value) T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but.... this error is prolly cause it's empty now :( T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you require it? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: fml T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no :P T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: added require "serialize, but says nil value again" T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which is prolly cause the table is indeed empty :P T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye that's the issue, no error now, but it's not saving it at all T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I saw an assert somewhere, should I add that T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: assert (loadstring (GetVariable ("tb8") or "")) () T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what if I add an if check on the pluginsavecrap T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if table's not there to create it T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and then I don't create it in the script T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I want to front pad a number (say, 43) to take up 7 spaces like: " 43". Is there a Lua function to do that? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: sorry, the example takes up 6 spaces, but you get the point T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: string.format, can't remember the exact code though T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: or Trurien T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does mush have a speedtest like c/z mud T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eledar Tech: anyone know how to load hp bar for portal client? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: The new mapper display Fiendish is making in aardclient is nifty T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: it's out T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ooh I should update T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's out? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: no no, not out T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: dammit quit teasing T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox grins mischievously. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: I just snagged the files myself from the page T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You scared me there, man. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nice, 5 points for leading TrEz astray, anyways T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh.. then it's out. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: There is enough there to see it in action. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll wait for the actual release, though. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: Oh, okay then yes, it is out. Just not in a pre-built release .zip T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: it looks a bit odd at first, but once you understand what you're looking at, awesome T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: Does Fiendish have a page about what 'further plans' are for the display stuff? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: what do u guys think about a refurbished HP all-in-one touchscreen with pentium i3 3.3ghz 4gb ram (can upgrade to 8) with windows 7 for $600 even no taxes? T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: oh its 23 inch T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: depending on what you are doing, might be worth the 650 just for the 23" touch T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: can get windows 8 for $15 with special offer included T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: i just a lil concerned bout the 'refurbished' part but im sure it works...3 month warranty T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: best buy warehouse via bestbuy.com T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: how i view refurbished is you have a product know to break that has had the part that breaks fixed already. T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it does suck though that the warranty on them is usually shorter T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: yea i think im gonna click the "BUY" button now...i've been thinking about it for a few hours and gonna go for it T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: 23" awesome touchscreen desktop here i come T3/r7/2012-08-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: I gotta ask once more before I buy this all-in-one pc 23" touchscreen 4gb ram, 1tb harddrive, with i3 3.3ghz processor for $600 (its refurbished) ....yay or nay? $600 even, no taxes T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it's MSI, don't touch it T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: MSI? its from HP T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: HP is fine - most all-in-one's you see are from MSI, and are total POS machines T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just be sure to wipe all of the HP software off it once you get it T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: from the bustbuy warehouse via online so its got 3 month warranty (its refurbished) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bloatware central T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: werd T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Consider what you'll be using it for, and confirm that an i3 will be enough CPU for you, too T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: yea i only use that for normal stuff like porn and burning cds...playing movies i've illegally downloaded etc *grin T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: lol not really on the porn...i guess my girlfriend is to thank T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh - in which case, will 1TB be enough? :-P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: i got a 750gb external hd and a 250 as well but i was still considering getting a 1tb external now that they are pretty cheap T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have...issues...with external drives T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: In that I now have 10 TB worth :-S T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's not issues, that's an addiction...get help. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But no, they just KEEP releasing new tv series, the bastards T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you CAN delete them when you have watched them and the series wasnt that worthwhile T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: it's not as if dvds are obsolete T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: DVDs are a pita, I just stream them over NAS T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But what if I want to watch the half part of Caprica they made again? How could I live with myself if I deleted it? :-P\ T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: sickbeard/sabnz stream :) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Anyone tried using Ruby with MUSHclient scripting? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lua is far easier, and better supported T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But I'm a Ruby fanatic. It's easier for me. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And I just need simple functions. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But when I change it from the dropdown menu (Game->Configure->Scripting), it always gives an error. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'd check out Gammon's forums, though even there most people have moved to Lua T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I've looked there, nothing much about Ruby. I don't really care that much, I know Lua too. Just wanted to see if anyone knew. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is there a way to use string formats (like %2f) in a trigger so the %2 doesn't sub for the trigger info? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: trigger wildcards* T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: never mind, I fixed it with "%".."7s" instead of "%7s" T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: %% T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ok, thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In windows command prompt, is there a way to list drives/volume labels? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nvm, I managed to guess the right letter T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use a program call USBDLM... it comes with a small cl utility T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm running solely from a command line at the moment (different computer). Got the Sirefaf virus :\ T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is what it shows on command line T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://pastebin.com/NCVd4EwF T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lists all other dirves too T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ListUsbDrives.exe -a > %temp%\ListDrives.txt ... handy to keep on a thumb drive T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yay, I think the virus is mostly gone. Nasty little bugger. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Eating into my poker time... T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: seems easy enough... couple reg entries and some executables in appdata T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you should install unlocker if you aint already... find, select all, unlock/delete T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then just kill the processes or reboot T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Main problem was that it restarts your computer automatically 60 seconds after it boots T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: plenty of time to find/unlock/delete :P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: unlocker is a contxt menu app T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: those that write Windows viruses are definitely getting assistance from microsoft (employees) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: couple that with process explorer and you jump rigt to it T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh Zade :P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they do make it easy T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Load another OS via USB, delete like a BAU5 T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: grub ftw! T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's always step 2 of a windows install... install linux :P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 75% of the removal instructions that I found online, the first step was "perform a clean install of windows" :P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Considering it writes itself into the system files, yeah, that's a good idea T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only writes some exe & dlls to appdata T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: VBA scripts in MS Access! Who loves em? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MS support contracts? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I don't believe I just spent 12 hours figuring this access database out.. now I can rest in peace T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for status = DatabaseOpen (db, others.s3db, 1) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm getting an error attempt to index global 'others' (a nil value) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why would that be T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then the others variable isn't initialised T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's a database T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If it is a nil value it has not been initialised, or it has been set to nil explicitly T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it does seem to imply that you're not setting up "others" properly T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyone know if cmud can be run from a flash drive? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why not? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just had an out of memory error on Mush... T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It recovered, but then I checked processes - 2.8 gig RAM T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush memleak, you so crazy T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I'd check into any custom or customized plugins you may have, as with the stock ones installed and a bunch of bast's stuff, I'm only running at 100k mem in use. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My Mush starts at around 50k, then goes insane T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This 2.8 gig is after 7 days straight T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I suspect it has something to do with a bug in either the mapper or bast's statdb T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I think I restarted a few days ago. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I've been runnung for a week now and still ~100k T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Because all your aliases and scripts were gone, remember? :P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... well mapper might take lots of memory if the room db remains in active memory T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I never restarted :P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Silly thing is, my whole mapper is only 16 meg - so even accounting for sqlite compression, it could all be in memory fine T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What I suspect is happening is it is being copied into new allocation and the old one isn't being collected, over and over T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm trying to reseed an sql table but it's not working T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no error output either T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I keep getting a random string expected, got userdata) error T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on dbprepare and T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: db close T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: reseed? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I didn't manage to put it :) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I install plugin twice, second time has no error T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but then if I delete the table there's one T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the dbprepare is DatabasePrepare(db, db_code), db is at the start of the script tag T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and the prepare is in a function if it matters T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Agent Phillip Tech: Is there a way to darken the text of a PDF file? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Darken your monitor. Editting the PDF itself will be more headache than it's worth unless you need to be doing it often. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: my script got some random error, can anyone help fix it T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you expect someone to provide a random answer? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I expect someone to show interest before I write 50 lines T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can pay some trivs if someone shows me what's wrong with it T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's some mush sql script, kinda simple one T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: error is [string "Plugin"]:216: bad argument #1 to 'DatabaseClose' (string expected, got userdata) T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and on the dbprepare function too, sometimes T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I can look at it, if you pastebin the relevant code. I'm not strong with lua though T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright hold on T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh it has sqlite db, can you create it yourself ? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sqlite 3.5.1 T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I don't intend to take it that far. If it complains about data type you are throwing at it, it should be easy to spot T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no it's something else T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nothing in it would work without some sample db so it's pointless T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just pastebin the code, please :P T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on cmud can you color with #psub? when i tried to #psub {%1} %x1 it did not parse, just wondering if you can color it that way T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I always used PCOL for that T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, what woule be the likely cause of having your googlecode wiki pages disappear? I did make some git commits to the source. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does anyone elses broadcast plugin screw up their cp check and gq check command? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does anyone elses broadcast plugin screw up their cp check and gq check command? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: oops soz T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Having an issue where bast's plugin isn't filling the window when the gq starts, then when I kill a mob, it still isn't doing a gq check, not counting kills or wins...anyone know what will fix this has happend over multiple sessions? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: dunno, had similar on mine, just kept doing gq check manually T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that part isn't too bad I can keep track in my head - but also when it is done it says I killed 0 zero mobs and got 0 qp...going to see if I can delete a state file and fix it. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I deleted the statefile w/ aaa77f81c5408278ccda7100 after closing mushclient. Now all i need to to do is have another gquest get called. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone there really familiar with mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: many - better to ask the question T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: so, i just started again today, friend convinced me. i played fine all afternoon. went to dinner came back now my main window isn't updating T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: it shows the commands i enter, and i can see my map windows, andthe communication log T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: but the main window isn't populating anything besdies what i type T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What other plugins have you installed? It seems something is capturing all your input and hasn't stopped. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vurion Tech: press page down? double click on the MORE button on the bottom right? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i was recommended SND and spellup from winkle. that's it T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: pagedown doesn't do anything T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: so the more button never shows up T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i lied, tried page up, up and down are working, don't see a more button T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: have you tried restarting mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: twice T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vurion Tech: more button appears with a black highlight when you aren't scrolled all the way down, so probably not it T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Which plugins have you installed? You are getting stuff in your comm log right? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: yes, communication log is how i'm talking to you. your chat doens't show up in main window. i've installed winkle SND and winkle spellup T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: i have the same problem T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: my main window now has absolutely no output T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: i can only see things in my comm window T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Restinall them - like I said one of them is capturing all your main window and gagging it. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It supposed to add a carriage return to the end of your prompt, but can't hurt to make sure you have one. T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: what if i have no scripts running ie no winkle snd or spellup T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: disabled them, restarted mush, when it loaded they were already enabled, but output is back. thanks T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rezzil Tech: Anyone know of a Mac-enabled client that you can customize with windows like Mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: mudlet is a very nice mac/linux client T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushcient works quite well on mac/linux T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: any audiophiles here with heaps of experience with low-mid range IEMs..? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: ok lemme try another way.. anyone owns either a Hifiman RE0, VSonic GR06 or a Brainwavz M2..? T3/r7/2012-08-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sorry, I had to google IEM to even know what you were talking about...:-P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: anyone here not to busy to try to help me?? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: to do? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: ok Im running the MushClient ok...And there is a Map with Little Squares on it showing the rooms..Know what Map im talkin about?? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: is there anyway I can get those rooms to stay on when I log out and Back in again?? Cause as of now...They dissapear when I go to an area Ive already explored T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: so they only show rooms you haven't been to? that's unusual T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: No...Ok...You know how the map shows as you explore an area you havent been to?? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it should show regardless as to whether you've been there or not T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: or are you talking about the unexplored dotted line border rooms T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: No..When i go to an area i havent been to..Like right now Im in the zoo...And most of the Squares are outlined in red like I havent been to that square yet...So i go and explore the map to where there is no red Squares...When I log out and Back in...The map is like it was before i explored the area T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: yea the dotted line rooms T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ok. The explored rooms are stored in a database file called Aardwolf.db, maybe check to make sure you don't have permission problems making changes to that file. Something could be forcing it to revert to a backup, or some manner of file protection is reversing changes? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there is a command to make the mapper forget an area, but I doubt you're doing that accidentally. if you think it's a bug in the client, Fiendish is your man T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: ok...I might have to live with it..Cause I have no idea how to do that...LOL T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: the funny thing is...The Aylor City and the Acadeny Maps always show its just other areas that dont T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if \s matches whitespace, how can I set it to match any number of white spaces T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: \s+ or \s*, normally T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use + or *, depending on whether you want to match 1 or more, or 0 or more T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which one is 0 ore more T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: * T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: * T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: can someone point me in the right direction for using DBs in mushclient? (lua) T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with cmud there is a ... can you do the same thing with underline? underline in a mush trigger? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: Send("") T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: gotcha thank you T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: do you have a trigger for PMs? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok my "stay logged in" trigger isn't working. It's set to trigger when the game says "Your eye gazr over" and send the 'look' command. Didn't work T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: how do i use the mapper T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: gazr? Are you sure that is correct? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mapper hepl T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: type mapper help T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that typo is only in this chat, sry T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: ok thanks T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what exactly needs to be in the Send box? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: to send the look command? look T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I had look and it didn't work. What do I need to hit ? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: enter Send("") ? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod, and send it to script T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so the send box should have 'Send("")" ? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: enter Send("") ... then press enter T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: look shouldn't be the problem. Either wrong trigger text, or you are triggering actual disconnect message. Triggers can't send anything if you are already linkdead. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: said he was triggering: Your eye gazr over T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: typos don't work well in triggers T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: gaze typo maybe? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: how do i set my client up that when i enter like 7 it will use a specific potion? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the trigger is Your eyes glaze over.. It was a typo T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I have no idea what that message is, I just let client send p every 10 minutes or so T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: soleus are you using muchclient? if so, go to the Keypad setting T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the pattern is: ^Your eyes glaze over\.$ T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if mush uses same regex as zmud T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: glaze not gaze T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it does if you check the regular expression box T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: yes mush where is the keypad settings? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Game -> Configure -> Keypad... T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm told that "Your eyes glaze over" is the afk warning msg T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Daikojun: http://i.imgur.com/vcn5W.png T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I think my trigger phrase is the issue. I changed it to ^Your eyes glaze over\.$ T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you do that, make sure you have the regular expression box checked T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and check the reg expression box like in tht img T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, that's what I just did. Thanks T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ozzy: you missed send to script T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: doh T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im a newbie mush user :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still using zmud T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mush would be so much easier if you could just tell people to enter: #TRIG {^Your eyes glaze over.$} {#CR} :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i dunno about #CR, but you can tell them enter #TRIGGER {Your eyes glaze over.} {look} or something T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #CR is carraige return... so what would be the equiv? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what you have there :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in your screenshot T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint command line :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use the command line a lot in zmud... easier for some things T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i don't think you can do anything fancy with that in mush T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: aardmush comes with a simple #TRIGGER alias that makes a trigger, but you can't set anything other than the pattern and code afaik T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you cant i was told.. only simple alias/trigs T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so it should be set to Send to Script and not World? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, done. now to glaze over lol T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe Fiendish has a plugin that lets you create triggers and aliases from the command line like you can in Zmud. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: send to world sends it directly to the mud, send to script sends it to the scripting engine, lua by default T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh nods, didn't realize it was included in Aardmush. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i need stuff like {#IF (%roomvnum = 12761) {#CALL %maplocked(0);#CALL %roomlink(12761, %1, 12762);#CALL %maplocked(1)}} T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that one re-writes a maze room link on the fly T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hehe, i have that too T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: awesome for like ?nenukan?... rokugan T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But why do you need to be able to do it from the command line? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that one isn't T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: when im figuring the maze out i write em as i go T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier to copy/paste roomnames while in the same window T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah I read that V3 is no longer Diku-based but all custom now T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: 8nodnod T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's like a clone, totally custom codebase but keeping the overall feel :) T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 0% Diku codebase T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: bet that was a feat in itself T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: did a friggin awesome job T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I worked on a dikumud that never took off ages ago. The code is clean T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: in fact I made a test mud via tinymux of our house as a project in college lol T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: I worked on one for tech in HS about 14 years ago T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: mine started in HS about 14 years ago :) T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: now I need an IRC plugin for catching tells lol. I have everything pointing to IRC these days. Even my MineCraft server chat. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i know someone wrote an irc interface for cmud... haven't heard of one for mush T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that server/client merge ruined mc for me Daikojun... maybe 1.4 :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I see why they did it tbh. It makes LAN games easier. I have an actual bukkit server running T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I know my kids love the new local server option. They hae been sharing their worlds with each other all week lol T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my boy loved the open to lan feature... he's always bugging me to play on a server T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but he's only 7 and i dont do smp, so i aint turning him loose :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I keep a tight Internet leash on my kids too. I'm an IT manager so I know what's out there T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my 13yo has an aard account though :) T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... he's got a user here T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: too old. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if that's too old... im ancient :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mudding for like 20 years... started around 24 :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: get off my lawn! T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm 34. I played T2T in my teens and a couple others into my 20s T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone here playing MushClient via wine on linux here? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan raises his hand. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: linux is for hackers T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud in wine count? :P T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: any lag issues? It's just C++ so it should be flawless right? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you say it like being hacker was bad thing :) T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I was till I went back to my trusty tinyfugue T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: "It's just C++ so it should be flawless right?" T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Lolololol T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I play tt++ on my Ubu netbook but I'm really getting attached to MC T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I have a few versions back in Bast's and having issues with my CP window. It's just a little white dot, reloading doesn't seem to help any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i dont get it. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: flawless as in wine compatible T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: can you debug plugins in mc? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: programming language doesn't impact wine in any way. I bet most of the games that are incompatible with wine are c++ too T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can turn on plugin trace with ctrl+alt+T, but it'll probably get very spammy, depending on what plugins you're using. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Alternatively, you can just edit the plugin, and add whatever debugging you want. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: likely most of them break in a different version of windows too, likely doing direct jumps rather than accessing the calls via windows proper methods T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what mc plugins are you guys using? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: bast's and the stock ones that come with Fiendish's Mushclient install. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun looking up bast T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: wow, that's a lot of plugins. do I just Add them all? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you want them all T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You can - or just one by one. T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: isn't there a bash mush client you can just download that has em all preloaded? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do just the ones you want, some offer the same functionality T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and no, there is no preloaded T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll play with them. These will keep me on mush lol T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: k T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I change the color of the time in Bast's Quest miniwindow plugin? I don't see it as a menu option. Is it hard coded? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: right click the M and go to Colours, look for Time colour T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sorry, left click T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I don't see time color T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: wait, Quest window, or Events window? T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: quest window T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: minwin_quest.xml T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: miniwin_quest doesn't have that options, miniwin_event is more current T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok thank you T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: gonna need a bigger play window now lol T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha - yeah wish I had two monitors myself :) T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i love my 2nd monitor. endless netflix while playing :0 T3/r7/2012-08-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that's the funniest MUD statment I've ever heard lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Under an hour to go :-) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: exciting! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can't look away from mohawk man in the control room...looks so out of place T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: Vak are you watching it right now? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: or listening T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: Did you hear that guy just say, "dont mess around" T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I did T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why do you yanks feel the need to dramatize everything...this "OMGZ 7 minutes of terror BIG ORCHESTRAL SCORE"...bs T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: cause it makes it more uhhhh T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: I want to know whop the hell was messing around!! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: Skycrane!! awesome!~ T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: everything looks great!!! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: one day they will be doing this with Astronauts T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: We'll all be dead, for sure T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: you really think it will be that distant in the future? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sucks to be the guy with a peanut allergy T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I was just thinking the same thing... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: omg I just got a craving for peanuts T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: I think we will do it within 40 years T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The US is on a steady economic descent, it'll never happen T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nah, we'll be too busy arguing over whether we should teach ID in schools to do any real research. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: you have a point T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: I'm trying to be optamistic T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: pessimism is better, then if the real world exceeds your expectations you're pleasantly surprised. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: 5 mins to entry T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: I havent been this excited since the last solar eclipse, lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: I just pee'd a little T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So we're just seeing what was reported 14 minutes ago, right? So it's already landed/crashed, and we're just finding out? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: yep T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: what landed a crashed? UFO? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: i knew they'd come back for me! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: Curiosity the Rover T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That explains a lot.... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: dirk http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: nah, u could just tell me T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: lol k T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Funny how they put what's probably the only hot chick in the room in the seat closest to the camera. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: the guy pacing the room thinks he's steven baldwin T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: touchdown confrimed T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: I'm I the only one tearing up right now? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: ahha no i saw another woman in the room crying T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: i also saw so many missed highfives T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: woooooooooooooooooooo! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: nerds T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: wait thats a pic of my moms vag! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: how did the mars rover send that?>! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: Is she on mars!?!?! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hey look, they traveled a hundred million miles to take a picture of its own wheel. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: lol no...i see a guy crying now T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: hahaha they cheered for that shitty pic T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, they cheered for the last rover to just turn on... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: would love to be at the same bar all those nerds go to to celebrate T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as it's the third one, dunno why you're crying, it's not like it's historic :P T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler Tech: hahah T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: William Shatner should be there with them T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mr. Dirty Dirkdiggler nods. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: because this rover is so much more then the last two T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: meh T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: with the mapper plugin is there a way i can use current roomid in script ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that would come from the gmcphelper, not the mapper T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: reall ? how so ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcphelper is where the MAPPER gets the data T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: kk so how can i find the right info from gmchelper ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: this was so important for the US T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trikk Tech: amazing! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Imalish: I'd start here: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: in the "using gmcp data" T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... checked the page and lots of data available about character and target but didnt see the data item indicating current room ... did i miss it somewhere ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at the top of the page T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: room.info T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now look at the right-hand side T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that right-hand side has a table of contents...try clicking on the one that would seem to indicate it has info about rooms T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mushclient how can i call an alias from another alias ... trying to make alias shortcut to run and get a new cp T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: send it to execute T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set it to execute T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sweet :) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: so anyone wanna skype? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran ... finger gamgee... "nope, male." ... =p I kid. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know a good website that explains the difference between MSDP/ACTP/other mud standards? i use to use mudstandards.org but looks like whoever was maining it let it go T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you mean the specifications? don't really need a site to explain the differences, cause they're all more or less completely different... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there a way to set commands to keypad + shift ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: In MUSH? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah ... ive got open commands set to the ctr+ modifier T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You'd need to make an accelerator. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: where in options is that ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's not. Have to use the function T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: eg. if /// is your script prefix, then you can do: ///Accelerator("SHIFT+Numpad1", "quaff potion") T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beer Cooler Tech: Is someone using FastReport .Net? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it bad if there are lot of small plugins T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or they have to be united in one big one T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's better to be more small ones T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: more small ones mean it's loading much slower on wine T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it just the loading time tho, as in once per client start T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan nods. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: not a big deal then, I could even put it on the ssd T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sammael, that is the wonderful effects of the yank's MPAA restrictions on playing formats T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: FYI, most of the 'yanks' hate the MPAA, don't blame us for their antics. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not blaming, but MY country didn't spawn them :-P T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: I still hate it. Since fewer series and movies are being encoded in AVI and switched to MP4, I can't watch anything in my living room T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is more or less the reason, Sammael T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The new scene rules mean MP4 will not be supported by any major manufacturer for a LONG time T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: MP4 has better quality and takes less space, would be my guess T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It absolutely does - easier to detect and fix bad packets, also T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: I hate it when parents decide to become 'hip with the times' :) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: The only reason we have the damn thing. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just get a bluray drive for a PC or lappy, and stream T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I picked up a decent internal bluray (sata II) for AU$100 T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Nah. The problem is the bluray player itself not being able to do much other than play movies no-one buys. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: So now I gotta sit here in my room watching my shows >.> T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, well your PC will be able to T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: i have a ps3 best investment i ever made myself T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And streaming over wifi means you can watch the mp4s that way T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Right. I wish I had a real life winrar. Then I'd fit the family in here too :D T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You mean...a PAID winrar? Does it even exist? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Could always use the real life delete key on them T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Starling: My response would have been 'The recycle bin isn't big enough', but then I'd be lying. We're not fat. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: lol wait so bluray wont play a standard dvd in them anymore at all am i understNDING THAT RIGHT? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: sorry didnt mean caps T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are not T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Gamgee: they will still play DVD's, the problem is that they cannot play MP4 files T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Means the MP4 format...pirate format, iow T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Neither will a PS3, for that matter T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Valkyrie Sammael grins sheepisly at Vakieh. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: o so if its via corner bootlegger youre one scewed person T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But seriously, $100 bluray internal, streamed over wifi - works for everything T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: What's your internets line speed, Vakieh? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Corner bootlegger will actually play ok, seeings it's in ordinary BD-ROM format T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right now, I'm running around 1 bit/second T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: a ps3 raely ever play a burned dies T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: disc** T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: At home, I 'pay' for 20meg optical, but get closer to 4 T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rtek screams 'Oh my god they killed Kenny!! You Bastards!!' T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: South Africa's leading ISP has become insane. We pay approxamitely $100 for a 1mbit/s line, uncapped. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My home line is capped, but at 1 TB, so I never reach it T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: and they shape you if you have uncapped T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Luckily my ISP doesn't shape my internets. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: my isp is decent T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I want google fiber please T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: this is random but mass effect 3 SUCKS T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mass Effect sucks where # > 1 T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: im making myself play the 2nd one and i just cant do it T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: its a ?%?$ dissapointment T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: is it possible to use duckbat to find all items from a zone? i am trying to find all items from DES, using this syntax and it is finding nothing: +item &area=stronghold T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: figured it, need to use the number for the zone, not keyword T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I haven't used duckbat. Haven't taken the time to figure it out tbh T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What's to figure out? Have need, type need, hit enter T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: scroll up, but i figured it outt vakieh T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, "figure it out" is pretty much a matter of clicking "about & help"...for the last question, that help page says + In front of keyword means you want this included and - means you want it skipped. & sign means it's a numeric variable and you can use... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: shrug, i didn't find it that straightforward. it doesn't tell you how to find the numeric variable, for instance T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: cool tool, not good doc T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What numeric variable? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: the zone id T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's mostly cuz it's not meant for the use you were trying to put it to... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Like &int>10 or something? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: it returned the results i wanted. not sure why it wouldn't be used that way T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Do the zones even have #s anymore? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course it returned the results you wanted, that doesn't mean that's the use case it was designed for... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a difference between searching for something and searching for anything... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it was designed primarily to help with room name campaigns, afaik T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: there is an id within duckbat for it vakieh. if you search for dark elf stronghold, there is a number associated with it in there T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And a little to take up the slack iwuv left T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: the searchh ended up being +item &area=127 T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, that is just a Duckbat thing, not an aard thing T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup vak T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: yeah it's nifty. i needed help on syntax. not sure why abe feels the need to flog me over that T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: syntax always just needs to be figured out, not a big deal T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody flogged you over it, but feel free to whine :P T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun passes out the cheese T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Martini & Tyebald cuts the cheese. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: today we are twelve. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc types gamestat 12 and looks for the number decrement T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: woo! I'm growing up! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera laughs at Martini & Tyebald mercilessly. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how come i cant open NeoRagex 5.0? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: so anyone wanna join my vent server T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: got a hot voice ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you're gay T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: of couse i goto a hot voice lol T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (the hot voice, not the join :P) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: good that you calrified, cause it sounded so wrong T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popsicle Tech: How do you turn off screen reading in mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone reccommend a good online backup service? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looking for 1pc, unlimited storage, no obnoxious software T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: My boss uses carbonite, seems to like it T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i tried that, no use T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: did he find Hn in it? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: err "Han" T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: carbonite prevents you from backing up filetypes not on their list, unless you explicitly select them T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i just want to back up the whole damn drive T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: annoying T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why not backup to an external drive? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: needs to be an off-site backup T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've heard good things about crashplan T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: But haven't tried it T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Crashplan has an online service, the free one is onsite T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, can't get crashplan here T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: can you just use rsync? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and connect it to what? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: a remote server...or something running an rsync deamon T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: rsync looks extremely expensive T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and is sponsored by some extremely dodgy institutions T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: it's free and i believe open source T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the storage isn't T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: the 'storage' is whatever hard drives you stick on remotely T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think you're quite with it :-) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if we had the external server, we'd be using rsync or synctoy and it would cost nothing T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thus looking for the service provider all in one T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Druzx Tech: true...but, if you're only backing up one computer... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how can i disable a trigger from code? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: EnableTrigger(" T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: EnableTrigger("triggername", false) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ok..so if i make an alias turnof which sends to script EnableTrigger("trigger", false) should work? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: and to turn a plugin off? :) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Probably a way to disable a plugin using it's plugin id, but I don't know it off hand - just google it :) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's function enableplugin T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: got tired of seeing default error messages on bad commands to mud... http://i.imgur.com/h4HyQ.png T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you cybering Caralah is what I wanna know T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: did i miss any good ones... http://pastebin.com/bVtf0ziW ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: hmm, is there a command for mush mapper, that if I give it a room id, it would show me what the map looks like from that room without actually going there? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: my mapper will speedwalk to said room if able to really helpful for cps T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, he understands that it'll take you there... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Chimeishio: yes there is T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh well T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: got a mapper question. to do with mazes - or maybe i just need a resource. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that wasn't a question... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: is this? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yes, Fiendish. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: how does one navagate the maze generally so that the path is always known on the other other side ? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how many other sides are there? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that depends on the maze T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You cannot navigate mazes with mapper usually. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: now i'm not saying, go through the maze but stop and maybe manually navigate and then continue T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: example - gold rush maze. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Mapper completely fails in mazes due to the lack of GMCP info returned by the MUD. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean you want the mapper to route beyond a maze and say "there is a maze here but you have to do stuff to get past it" T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so that it doesn't fail to find rooms T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: am I correct? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: what i did is put a cexit on the portal at the start of the maze and made a route... this fails when the maze changes. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Naturally. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: generally yes. i expect it to fail on the maze but i still want it to find a path T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh, so you want to pause the SW until you pass the maze T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: use "mapper resume" for that. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, a maze like gold rush has all exits randomized (some mazes do not have all exits randomized, but until you take the time to walk them all out there's no indication of this). For these sorts of mazes, you need to manually step once and then figure out which of the choices you landed in. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'd need to create a custom cexit, which I don't think I ever got around to adding T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: basically you want a cexit that does nothing T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a cexit that does nothing from the start room to the end room of the maze would say "maze here!" but still show that something is on the other side. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: actually...you probably want to throw in something like wait(99999) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so that it doesn't try to do the part after the amze T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: right and still have a path there so the mapper resume would work. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I actually have code for this already. I haven't added it yet though, sorry. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because it was written by someone else and I never got around to examining it for faults T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: blame me for laziness T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: so what it would do is pause at the maze start so you can go ahead and navigate it then continue on the other side. i'm okay with having to actually issue a command at the other side of course. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wouldn't that fall more under your anti-bottiness thing? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that might have been the reason I never added it T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but it doesn't find the way through the maze for you T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: no, i expect i'd have to do that myself. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i'm not looking to automate this but rather, have the path still known past the maze. so that from the start of an area, it will still be able to find the walk to the start of the maze for mobs that are after the maze. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: basically.. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i'm still kind of new to the whole mapper thing. it's a very cool tool. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: or am i going into bot territory? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: not really what i was intending... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Why don't you just have the mapper stop at the beginning of the maze with the cexit Fiendish suggested, and then re-issue the same type command to finish the speedwalk as you used to start it? This will require that the speedwalk alias is dynamic. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there isn't currently a way to define a cexit that doesn't actually take you to the end T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: hang. reading back to see if i understand what he was suggesting right. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the botting comment was just a reference to Fiendish's penchant for not giving us particular features on the basis of coming too close to botting (while still being fairly legal under the current rules) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Let the cexit take you to the end of the path, navigate the maze, then re-issue the command to find the vnum you're looking for after the maze. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Take you to the end of the path in the mappers mind. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it would be pretty tricky to set that cexit up T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: right now, if the path through the maze is unknown (no cexit to do so) everything after is unknown .. yes? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not unknown, just not known to be a path T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: actually building a maze-navigation script wouldn't be against the rules anymore than a fancy runto-from-anywhere script would be. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Doesn't the map come with runto-from-anywhere? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: huh.so what i'm doing presently is a working solution. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what are you doing currently? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i map A path through the maze that works and cexit that. it'll fail there when the maze changes. but i can continue after i get through the maze. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: the path has to work at least once though. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, nice with the showroom, fiendish! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh. of course. and the mapper will try to run through the maze, which may get you into danger. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: which is why I think to be safe you'd have to either define a new type of cexit or have a custom one that uses a very long wait instead of actual movement T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc declares for the world that this day, the 6th of August, year of Our Lord 2012, that he was wrong :-) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: may yes. i'd like a better solution. but seems to be one of those unknown things right now. which is cool. i could write a speedwalk that goes to that first room . navigate the maze and go from there when knowing the area too. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not my lord T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Bob, abelinc didn't know about mapper showroom. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Showroom? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Wuts dat? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I beleive you are allowed to not know a few functions on a client you don't reguarly use :P T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: a command that...shows....the room. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chimeishio asked earlier if there was a way to have the mapper give a mockup of what the mapper would look like if you ran to a room...but without actually going there T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I didn't know that either! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat gives you a BIG high five! Way to go!! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I said there was none, so I was wrong T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth waves a 'CITATION NEEDED' sign at you. What, your word isn't good enough??? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: thanks friends . appreciate the insights. T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: let it not be said that I never admit when I'm wrong }:> T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: amen T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only reason you [almost] never see me admit it, is that it almost never happens }:> T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: say T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You don't say T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: what version of zlib are y'all using? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The mushclient version :-P T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I generally use Windows T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what is zlib? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: doh the Mud's version T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zlib is the library providing mccp v2 T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: OSX has 1.2.7 T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh then Muschlients! T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: and it's not inflating all of the text T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at your client, not your OS... T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: so I figured I would start at version compatability T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: hehe I am working on my client T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it allow a choice between mccp v1 and v2? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: zlib? or you asking about the client? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I doubt your issue is with the zlib library T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I am building it now but inflating the stream isn't inflating correctly so I was wondering what zlib library they use T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I like to eliminate the easy solutions first T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been using unix-based clients for years, and have never had a zlib-version incompatibility issue with mccp T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: already compiled? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I compile T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: cool, may I ask what is the zlib version from your package manager? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've used dozens of versions T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: well it's back to the grind then I appriciate your time T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: *bow* T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client are you trying to use? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and have you restarted the client since having the zlib issue? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I am coding it and wanted to add this feature T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: <- is a coder T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, have you looked at mccp docs to know what you're supposed to be doing with the stream? T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's where your issue almost surely lies, not anything whatsoever to do with zlib version T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: yeah and looked at the RFC it may very well be. Compression coding is new to me ^_^ T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although, tbh, other than doing it as an exercise for yourself, it's not worth writing your own client T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of extremely mature options available T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: it is ^_^ I am having a blast T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, "having a blast" falls under the "doing it as an exercise for yourself" exemption :-) T3/r7/2012-08-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: so where are bookmarks in the mapper? am i misunderstanding something? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: notes T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: same idea? can i get a path to a note? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're in the aardwolf.db file...not sure what you're looking for T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can do 'mapper notes' T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything for the mapper is in that file (except things like the size/position of the window, which should be in the state file) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: just wondering if you can get a path to a note rather than say a room id. or maybe i have to fetch it. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's an easy mod, but idk if it's done natively T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i see. not a built in thing. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: notes are meant to be just... well, notes :P not something you run to T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not the point of notes, so it wouldn't be built-in T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Things like that are better done as aliases for 'goto ###' T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: like "keymob is a city guard!" T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But I modified mine to runto/clicklist notes T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i just saw something about bookmarks but no bookmarks . so i was confused. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: says something about being able to run to bookmarks. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The notes table is indeed called bookmarks, a throwback to a previous version I assume T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which is rather odd, tbh, as the rooms table has a 'notes' field, unused T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: huh. okay. i see if i add a note to an area, i can click on it for a path. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: but again, simply getting the UID of the room, and aliasing a mapper goto is 99% simpler T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: yeah. true. but then i have to remember it or note it i suppose. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Simply use alias groups in the mush gui T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: mmm. what is that exactly? i ask as i've always had speedwalks i know about in my head mostly. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: enter a specific name in the 'group' field, and tree view will group all similar aliases together T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Helps for grouping related aliases T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay, different question. i see that there are some upgrades to the mapper available but i'm using the one downloaded from the aardwolf site. how easy is it to upgrade just the mapper bits rather than the whole thing? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't, ever. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'd just upgrade the whole thing, no telling where interdependencies are T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client package is made as a package, download a new one wholesale to do the upgrading T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: that is what i figured. so basically i need to use the latest muchclient install and up that to my current setup. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can keep the aardwolf.db, and aardwolf.mcl files if you want to keep as much as possible the same T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an unzip, no need to install anything...the upgrade process is documented where you downloaded the client from aard's site T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: abe, maybe to simplify the problem of upgrading aardmush when adding custom plugins, would it be possible to add an example of config file for plugins that allow to have all of them neatly in one folder? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: urm. will read the client upgrade mentioned there also. thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: like "custom plugins" T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they should already be neatly in one folder T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: basts are in one folder for example. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All the plugins should be in World->Plugins T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: can just add from there. keeps them seperate from the others in the main script folder. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yes but that makes it messy to identify what's from package and whats custom... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: what are alias on blowtorch client T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's in the folder called "bast", it's not from package :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The same thing an alias is anywhere. A shortcut/term referring to other actions defined. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mush doesn't care where they start, make your own folder 'mycustomplugins' and stick em in there T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's up to the plugin writer where he wants the plugin to reside T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: so just creating a custom folder in the plugins session T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just be sure they start in World->Plugins as root T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thanks...that works even if I need to call a function in one of the package plugins, without messing up with the path? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't put paths if you can avoid it T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: yep so, if my plugin is in worlds/myplugin, and need to call something in worlds/plugins , do I need to worry about the path? (sorry for the basic question) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, yours should be in worlds\plugins\myplugins T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok, then in that case I don't need to worry? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try it T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, it depends on how the plugin is written...they can be written to care, or to not care T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok I will cleanup my setup and try updating mush T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i do love how it's in it's own little package now without an install and all that jazz like before. very nice T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend always getting mush from fiendish's site rather than aard's...only majorish updates get posted to aard's site T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: thanks abe T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: Under what folder is my maps? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darlanthus Tech: can anyone answer a question I had about the Mushclient?? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Unlikely unless you actually ask it. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there a plugin that can remove the identify info from screen and put it into another window ? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: is there a way to reverse the way note list is set up? like how the current date is at the bottom. can i change it to make the 1st page current info? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't think so T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: most people just do note list 20 or something like that T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: oh i didnt even think of limiting it. :) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: turn off paging and the newest info will be on the first page T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: what do you mean turn it off? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: pagesize 0 T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: im on a cell it disconnected me. lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: you be spamflood disconnected on a pc also if several hundred lines listed (the Vakieh pagesize=0 was an indirect troll) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: yeah i just tried note list. but ill limit it from now on. got to find your limit 1st. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: but thank you very much :) have a wonderful day T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i use pagesize=160 here -- long enough for most spams, yet not too long to be disconnected T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i use pagesize=0 ... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that some use pagesize=160 is not an invitation to go write a 200 line forum note T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there mush function like ismember on cmud T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Wait, are you asking if there is that kind of function in mush, or in cmud? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mush, similar to cmud's T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, I wouldn't know, sorry T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Another person bails on cmud, thanks for nothing zugg. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud's easier to script on T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: simple stuff I mean T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: in lua you have to cycle through the table and check if it matches T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's prolly what %ismember does on cmud too, it's just internal function T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so tech guys, whats the best client i can use that I can use directly from a Flash Drive? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: anyon? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wintin maybe? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ill try that, sucks cmud cant be run from flash drive T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: or aard client even T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or zmud 3.16 32bit :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm 3.62a T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/zmud/ T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: actually i wonder if the aard client can be run directly from flashdrive T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: there was something i read about databases T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it said not to T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: actually... mush... This means that you can also run it from a flash drive and move between multiple computers. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: maybe it was just a plugin i was reading about T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mush works from flash drive T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ok T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is the most recent version of our client mush and is it the one i can just get off aardwolf website? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they're all mush T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Oooh, hangout got ported to Google Chat. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popsicle Tech: how can i turn off the screen reading in mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Popsicle Tech: nvm, finally got it, it was the sapi_speaker plugin T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I change mc's default global font? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: duckbat site isnt working very well T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How is it not? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what is the automatic database backup? One of the plugins? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: yeah, the mapper backs itself up in case it gets corrupted by a crash T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you can turn it off but it's HIGHLY discouraged T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: and i crashes alot lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: it** T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ahh the mapper. forgot about him T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: never really read the help on that one T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: damnit, I've been coding in C too long... I read that as it T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: any of us that still code in C has been coding too long lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Aard is written in C T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it gets even more fun when you code in C and other languages at the same time.. semicolons tend to screw me up T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I started in C. Now it's all Java and PL/SQL with a touch of Python and PHP when needed T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: eww... Java... don't get it on me! :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye giggles at Xantcha's actions. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I dabble in a bunch of languages T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Any Haskellites here? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: my former company used some java.. it sucked T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I've started delving into Haskell a bit... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye gasps as he realizes what Pedwiddle did. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: haskell is fun[ctional]! T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra is a devout Haskeller. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: C, C++, C#, Java if I /have/ to... Javascript (clientside and Node.js), PHP, a lot of T-SQL... among others T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: python! T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I've done a bit of Lua, haven't done python yet, but haven't had a need for it either T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: no MUMPS? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Any dynamic system proponents here? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Dynamic type systems, I meant. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: hey pedwiddle cn you friend me please need to talk to you T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I use Java for Android work and my MineCraft stuff. I live in the Oracle world these days. All scripting and data mining T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Fortran or bust... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I only did one Fortran project ages ago and no more T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i was pretty partial to TeraData for SQL.. lots of fun little idiosyncrasies and the architecture made more sense.. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Never heard of TeraData - love it when I learn about companies that power so many things but you just don't hear about often T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Like akamai T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien rapidly nods twice at Mendaloth, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: teradata is the opposite of oracle .. "shared nothing architecture" .. carves up a processor into virtual processors that each have access to their own specific part of the disk and communicate via bynet .. all proprietary hardware, though, so a system is easily in the millions T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: we use an ERP suite called IQMS. I code the modules and customizations. Eats up all my aard time :) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: So yeah I sit in my office and code between quest runs lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Playing on the MUD while you're at work? How immoral! T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I would _never_ do such a thing. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: everyone does right? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ratikin Tech: right T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: which dbms is the back end of iqms? or is it their own little dbms? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope. I'm working while playing mud T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: best kinda game to play at work. With screens full of PuTTY sessions, Notepad++ windows, and IRC chats, no one notices aard lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: IQMS runs on Oracle T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye nods. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Anybody do Hitachi VSP arrays on here? I need somebody to cover a graveyard shift I'm supposed to work next weekend :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my Oracle box is one of the last physical servers I have. Everything else is in my VM blade farm T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: We're even starting to move those into VMs where I'm at... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what about performance? is VM overhead noticeable ? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll get there now that Red Hat and Oracle finally supports their stuff in VMs. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: starting to see some of our dbs virtualized where i am, too.. this from a company that was totally anti-vm a few years ago T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Not extensively, but we throw a lot of money at the hardware. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm running 38 servers on 3 physical servers. Actually on only 2 as the 3rd is rollover/backup CPU T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I see no lag T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: my former employee was a great example of bad VM management.. had horrible performance problems.. i could run an operation on one VM and directly affect others T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: We're aiming for 10-15k VMs on 320 Physical blades. :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my oracle test server is running in a VM as well and it gives me no fits T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: wow robbo T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that's sick Robbo lol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Heh. Big company. That's only one chunk of a datacenter, they're calling it a 'pod' T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye giggles. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my VM farm so far is 3 servers. Total capacity is 36 cores, 144 GB RAM and a 24TB SAN T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Whats SAN? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: one of the customers i supported had data centers in different parts of the country... had a production box on the east coast that had a live backup being mirrored on the west coast.. usually not huge latency issues either T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Storage Attached Network appliance T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'v heard Network attached Storage, but not Storage attached Network... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, what do I know. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: It's an iSCSI-connected storage T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: NAS is Ethernet T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: NAS are slower T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: SAN is either iSCSI or Fiber Channel (drools) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: NAS is usually an appliance (smallish in size, generally, can speak IP or sometimes fiberchannel) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: SAN can refer to the fiber network backbone, or can refer to a larger disk array, which can be anywhere up to 3PB or so. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Thanks for the comprehensive answers T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I'm in the business of knowing things about storage ;) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: make sure you RAID everything, too :) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my SAN is modest. 24TB. 2 RAIDs. RAID10 and RAID50. RAID10 for the database (test only atm) and high-demand VMs and RAID50 for file storage and secondary VMs. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Our disk arrays are so large that 7+1 RAID arrays were too prone to multi-disk failures (in a huge array, the odds are too high). Had to go 6+2 sets. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Of course, those arrays are between 1.5 and 3 PB. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: smart move. Large RAIDs lose in the failure/success ratios T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RUM-FILLED Robbo rapidly nods twice at Daikojun, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: simple 2TB SAS drives here T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I like cheap. I finally sold the CFO on getting it for under $60k T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the whole VM project that is T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Nice ;) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: saving about $13k a year in power alone T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: It's been a while since I've had to work in a smaller company.. in some cases I definitely miss it. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I went from a Honda plant to a SMB. I like this better but I'm in too high of demand :/ T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i wasn't so fond of my smaller company experience.. good to hear they're not all bad T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: oh snap, quest time :) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: and it's to a new place for me T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: My experiences were pretty good when my company was 1200 people. Then we were bought and merged into a company about 8k employees... then we were bought and merged with a company many times bigger than that. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I've had to be much less diverse with my skillset. Used to do all the servers, some of the LAN/WAN, storage, backups... Now purely in storage. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: We're only about 500ish people. I'm the only IT guy and I maintain about 200 accounts. The rest are labor T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm back to the "everything" guy here T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: PC's is better meter for company size than just how many people T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: working to outsource some of my mundane server admin T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I maintain about 120 user PCs T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: With my company, 95% of the people have PCs. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: plus BYOD stuff T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and who likes backup exec? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RUM-FILLED Robbo :( T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Barracuda here :) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Tivoli Storage Manager here. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i took over for a guy who basically just half assed everything here. left me with no documentation whatsoever and hidden server parts through out 5 buildings and the random unsecured overhead rack T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is awesome T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Hehe, sounds like a place I used to work. They had switches hidden in the drop ceiling.... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: everyone knows you hide switches under the floorboards. :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: documentation takes time T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: oh I've found hidden network equipment. Using netmappers I found a few malicious devices left in closed offices T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: You always hear the tales of the walled-in Novell 3.11 server somewhere :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: rofl T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: lol we found one in a computer lab at a school once T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: still running and serving too T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Same place with the switches in the ceiling did have an old Novell server sitting in a forgotten closet. Booted off 5 & 1/4 floppy and was the only thing connected to a forgotten Arcnet segment :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Turned out it was a production print server :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: lol nice T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I'm pretty sure in my current environment you could forget a medium sized datacenter existed for 10 years and nobody would notice. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: can't see the forest from the domains. :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Hehe, true dat. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: As I understand it, most of Microsoft's typical domain management tools fall over and can't be used in our domain. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Have to use third party stuff or only load chunks of the domain via more specific LDAP queries to return less entries. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Honda's Enterprise Domain controlled over 21k systems and it was Microsoft 2003 Server T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: each plant was either it's own domain or forest/sub-forest depending on the size T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Ours is a lot bigger than that. The 2008 domain controllers do okay, it's just things like AD Users & Computers that fall over. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: biggest Ive ever seen tbh T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: We have performance problems here and there, particularly with domain controllers serving exchange and citrix. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I dropped Citrix for 2X here T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: lovin my mc plugins T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which plugin shows the char stats T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: statmon T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: back T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: does anyone know why youtube would all of a sudden be fullscreening to my primary monitor when my web browser is in my secodary window? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Firefox? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: fullscreen would be a flash issue T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yay, my threading library actually works :-) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra wrote a simple worker thread pool thingy on top of pthreads T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what is the default font for mc? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: depends, I suppose T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I have mine set to Courier T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I dled Dina for my miniwins. I like it T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: but its too small for the main window T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it would be T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Dina is a small size font T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: perfect for miniwondiws T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: and miniwindows :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: btw you shouldn't have to download Dina if you use the aardwolf mushclient package. it is included in the directory T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: how do i send a mapper command to aard via script? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: instead of send you want "Execute("")" if you are in a script or you can just do sendto execute T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: urm. my script has xxxxx - do i do different? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: so like xxxx T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nah just try Execute("mapper find Grand City") T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: in the send part i gather T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Inside the T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Can someone remind me the purge area command for mapper? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mapper reset here? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: nope T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: mapper purgezone T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: ty Harperon T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so if you delete or purge an area does it recreate when you enter it again? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uh, of course T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: whois augen T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oops T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just checking :) T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think new versions of the mapper shouldn't need to manually purge zones except for personal reasons T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and by new I mean probably not that new T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just for kicks, how can you see the room number? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: room number of what T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: like the number of the room you are in T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper thisroom T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ahh, thank you T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: never really took the time to read the mapper help. This is good stuff man T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: take the time T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is ther a plugin that shows game time of day? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: There's a command ingame for it...? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: You can't just type "time"? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Or do you mean like it's 10pm in game, for things like mansion ball? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: It refreshes every tick, I'd say it's a silly thing to do implement a plugin for T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: maybe, but I'm hunting mobs that only appear during the day for example. it would remind me to come back to this area when it's time T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why do you think it silly? Anything that can give you information without having to cause spam via the in-game informational command is actually rather useful in my opinion. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I might look at adding it to the Events mini bast did. Make the time the tab header or something T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: will take up no space T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: Huh, I retract my opinion on that T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's set individually by area, though that could also be accounted for T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purple Hazeknight Tech: I forgot how simple it would be to just have it check locally what time it is, and once there's a fix every tick, you can have it run by itself client-side T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yep. ofc it'll be daytime before I write it so I'll do it later :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud, I've got the entire Aard timing system laid out. I only use TIME for calibration at aardmidnight and when I connect. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Feihulong Tech: how to creat a scrip in mushclint T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what a question T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there any way to build a keyboard without labels into a laptop? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Maybe I should just use the keys until all the paint on them wears off :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you could scrub the lettering off.. but ive never seen such a thing T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: the keyboard i have now is like that, icon less T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yeah it occurred to me, my first idea would have been to replace the keycaps. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: hacker keyboards. we made em years ago T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: dor a laptop though, dai T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: http://www.daskeyboard.com/images/products/mechanical_keyboard.jpg T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: you can take it out and paint it carefully T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hacker keyboards, yes, but not really for laptops right. I don't want to buy a USB keyboard just for that, that would be overkill. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: See I would argue taking away the labels is overkill! T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think your best bet would be to remove the keyboard, and try and scrub the lettering off.. or buy a spare, and do it then swap them T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What I would need is stickers for the Russian layout... too bad the real world doesn't come with easily swappable layouts. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trurien.. You sure you can't pick up a laptop with the properl ayout? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But then I guess I could also learn the Russian layout by experience... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Daloran: no, this problem came up when I setxkbmap to US for this session. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm still in Germany atm. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahh didnt realize there was a problem, thought you just wanted blank keycaps T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then I looked at the keyboard for some of the stuff I wanted to type, and managed to replace a * social with } on newbie :D T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Then I got to thinking that one of those hacker keyboards would be useful... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But it couldn't be integrated into my laptop. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Which is why I asked the question the way I did. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But then, I suppose, the best way would be to remove the paint on all the keys. I wonder if scrubbing with alcohol works. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The next best solution would be to replace the keycaps with blank ones... or to paste black stickers on them. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could also mix them up so that you know you can't read them, I'd guess you'd need something strong than alchohol T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: No, the problem is when I subconsciously glance down at the keyboard, like now at 5 in the morning... T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Mend: yeah, stronger than alcohol would be a good idea too... but I'm not sure what kind of effect it might have if I accidentally dripped a little between keys :P T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Trurien.. i'd pull the KB off. And I've heard course sugar works extremely well for removing decals T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Good idea, sugar or salt T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: salt would probably be ideal since less sticky.. but ive always seen sugar used T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Sugar, huh... why does that work? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mild abrasive T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I never knew that. And salt would be for the same reason? T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nod T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yes, but it's less sticky, you're right. T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And you'd be less tempted to lick it away IMHO T3/r7/2012-08-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien bonks Mendaloth on the head for being such an UTTER moron. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i may have missed if someone answered this earlier: does anyone know why flash based videos would all of a sudden qr T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: qr? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: sorry got caught up in another window...basically flash videos when i full screen them are full screening to my primary monitor regardless of which monitor my web browser is in. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: it started yesterday for no apparent reason and I haven't been able to fix it with a reboot T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: this includes youtube, twitch and own3d T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahh i think its something to do with the new version of flash... not sure. Ive seen a lot of complaints about it last week or so though T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: also thedailyshow T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: dang hrm ok :( T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: id imagine setting your primary monitor to the one you want the video to display on would wor kthough T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: unfortunately full screen games automatically run on my primary T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, as they should T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: so i can't watch a full screen video while gaming anymore T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: barring aard T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: could game in windowed mode, depending on the game T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or if im right and its flash version - could roll back a few versions see if it fixes it T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: Hurm, i had that problem with flash a few months back, and just updated it and it fixed it T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: on an unrelated note - whats your setup for monitors? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: just a standard monitor for my primary and a smaller hdtv for my secondary coming in through an hdmi cable T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhhh gotcha T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: been wanting to do a new setup.. but can't decide how many or what configuration i want to go with T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: torn between 2+1 3, 3+1.. seems like 3 monitors is too wide T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: hmm might just be a chrome problem as it works normally on firefox T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: 2 monitors has seemed to be enough for me...but all i want is one for gaming, one for video T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can't comfortably span a lot of games across 2 monitors though.. crosshair shows up between them T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: same goes for 2+2 setups T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea how to delete all controls in a asp.net webpage? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: open in notepad, press ctrl-a, press delete? :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: lol =)) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i need to delete all of them in a procedure *doh* and ofc to reload them T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4667087/clear-all-controls-in-a-asp-net-page-with-a-master-page ??? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ozzy not to clear them..to delete them :) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: the problem is that i want to reload them..and when i do that i double each control i have..so i need to delete previsious one T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: wow does this aardwolf mush automap your rooms now and stuff? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yes, and stuff T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: man this has come a long way T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only thing you'll have to add are the in room portals T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Use cexits for those. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and doors T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'd just buy the passdoor wish, a lot less doors to deal with! T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: so any must have plugins? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: hrm sfail showing up, does that mean there is an autorecast? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if {sfail} is showing up, then it means that you've got tags spellups on but a spellup script is not currently active to interpret and gag them T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spellup scripts would use the sfail code to determine whether or not they should recast T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: Any idea why i get screen tearing on 2nd moniter while aard is active/updating lines in mushclient ? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: can u make mush client keep your last input on the line T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: command/autorepeat checkbox T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that is game -> configure -> commands...auto-repeat command checkbox T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: on bast plugin package, at the end it sais to use file -> plugins to add the plugins u want. Is that actually in the mushclient program? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: says T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mush's task bar went too far up T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean input bar? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no the top bar T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: minimize, close, file, game, etc stuff up there T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not a task bar but I don't have a better word right now T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: XP or w7? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: w7 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, darn...XP you could right-click it in the taskbar and select "move", then use arrow keys T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the menu bar? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, title and menu, sounds like T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: alt-space still works in 7 to move/resize windows T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the window menu is still there too.. just no icon :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alt-space then what T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, there we go T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not for your issue trez thuogh T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alt-space, then hit "m", then arrow keys T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: he aint missing the title bar...he's missing under that the menu bar T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: file edit ... ... help T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm missing all T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he said it went too far up T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh... then alt-space and arrow down to move T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the space doesn't work T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then use directional keys to go down.. thne hit enter when you can see it again T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can click on the gray crap tho T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and if I click on fullscreen it maximises it properlyu T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then restore moves it up? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no it looks fine now T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the directions don't work however T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyways I can see everything now T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wierd... not the numpad directions... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: restore to not fullscreen...hold down alt and press spacebar...let go of both...hit "m"...your arrow should be a + T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye the arrows T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't work :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: checked in 7 Abe? just booting one now to look... mighta changed.. doubt it though :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm doing it in 7 now, don't touch the mouse at all T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod.. just checked... non maximized window... alt-spc, M, arrow down... enter T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like how they tried to hide the app icon on the left side of title bar :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the cursor disappears, however the arrows don't work that way T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the area when clicked still brings up the window menu :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still the same in 8 too... should work for you, dunno why it dont T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: make sure your arrow keys aren't "special" on your keyboard (laptop keyboard with multi-function keys, etc) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it types an m in the input bar T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got external keyboard on the laptop T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: after alt+spc(same time, let go) ? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try using the laptop's keyboard T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course, for a 1-off problem, I'd just alt-f4 and reopen mush, quicker solution if you don't care about the hows/whys ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my netbook as 7 and using external through kvm switch T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: still doesn't work :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I know it should do, I've used that before T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wierd T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: got a sweet mech keyboard T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: unrelated T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might be nice to use in the future though... i'd wanna know why :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got a always on top app, might be interfering with it T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: prolly T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, try closing that for a sec to test T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first thing I do on a puter is turn off the task manager's always on top setting T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't work still, it should bring up the menu with maximize/etc crap on it, then it'd work fine T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 1st thing i do is install process explorer and lost task manager :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lose* T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should show this: http://i.imgur.com/eCdup.png T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you change screen resolutions, or move it to a different monitor in a multi-monitor setup? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it does on other apps btw T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like i said.. wierd it aint T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh no I was doing some q T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I'm not sure how it got moved :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't even use the mouse for q T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Why would you even use the mouse? :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, I think I have it... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I mean it does work* on other apps T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-alt-g, go to general tab, "ALT key does not activate menu bar"...UNcheck that T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno I heard bosses use winkledinkle T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh ye it's checked T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I kinda want it on tho, on cmud when I'm chatting to someone I always used to shortcut the file menu T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NOW alt-space should work T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't care...uncheck it for a second to fix the position :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I fixed ittt :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I mentioned it but you prolly didn't see T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right click on the grey crap, then fullscreen T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that on by default Abelinc? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, earlier I thought you were just talking about when it was fullscreen T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when it turned off the full screen it resized T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope ozzy T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I switched to fullscreen while trying the alt-space :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: by mistake T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: not even sure what the fullscreen macro is T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ctrl-alt-f T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, nod.. alt-enter opens config :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tho how the f did I manage to hit that combination while trying to hit alt-space is beyond me T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm kinda surprised Windows allows alt-space to be overridden T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe mush is too boss for windows T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it will allow alt-F4 to be overwritten even T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I ovverride the windows key too T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i DISABLE the windows key T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it sucks for games T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: my prev keyword was steelseries, the win key was gone at all T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my last non-windows keyboard finally broke :( T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the windows key like the apple key? }:> T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it is T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod.. pretty much T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some shortcuts and opens the start menu T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and cockblocks you from frags when you're playing games T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, forgot the T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Your first SH should be the same as the old system, going forward it is much better T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oops mis! T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: figured the devilish grin woulda given away the wryness of my question :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but it's Windows. They didn't get the mimicry quite right. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i mis my old ibm model m... i only need 101 keys :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ooh those model m T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also mech T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnodnod T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nice boards T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tho visually ugly T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got a das keyboard from the US T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: aren't those the ones that break concrete when you dropped them? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apparently they don't make them here T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod Hans T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye solid T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: very solid T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I wonder if we will see more never even trying for t9 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth sighs. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: my current one is 2.5 kg T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Sorry - that's what I get for talking on one channel and listening on anotther T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, mend, it'll delay people making their T9 runs, but shouldn't prevent anyone from making it that wasn't already set on not going T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thinking bout bying another.. but they are like $80 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it will seem strange at first, but I find changing the default colors so that no channel matches any of the others helps cut down on channel crossover. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the i/m/p shouldn't have had such a big-ass impact T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: we'd have more t9 shs, more active ones, more pvp... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah I wish I had done that at first Hans - but at this point I'm too set with these oclors T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: now everyone busy pupping, pvp is gone T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and why wouldn't they, it's such a big difference T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: whats pupping? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help pup T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got issues with my bluetooth mouse T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I add it as a connection, it works fine but T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I turn it off, or restart the laptop, and turn it on again T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's choppy and delayed T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: kinda hard to describe for google T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: i didnt know that. so increasing your potential and pupping you can max out later. ive been worried about my secondary stats. thanks guys T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: botontop, none of this has anything to do with your secondary stats...pretty much ignore all this for a long time :-) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't pup, don't potential, don't do any of that T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need to quest more, that'll make the most difference for you as a newer player T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: umm ok. im not gonna tier. but still dont worry bout any of it T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: thanks for the advice. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll get more benefit from having better gear and training smarter than from anything else T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a good part of better gear is aardgear T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yo dawgses. Does the architecture influence the hash you get out of crypt? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hash in a crypt probably absorbs the musty smell of the rotting dead. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for old unix crypt, no T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but crypt() is no longer what it used to be, and can use different hashing schemes T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanget Tech: if a trig line can have "a" "an" or neither how do I make that a regex? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can just not include it at all T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: (a|an) would work too I think T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: (?:an|a) ? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not quite T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (a|an)? would T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: isn't ^ used for exclusion in such lists? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: not in those lists, but in [] lists T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanget Tech: kk, thanks T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: but Abelinc is right, (a|an)? would be viable, keeping in mind it'll count as a capture group T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (|a|an) or (a|an)? would both work T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I'd probably just use less anchoring...next comes "The", etc T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there even a need for a capture group, or can you simply not do it without making one? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I think (?:a|an)? would be without capture... if the syntax engine allows it... but probably not necessary if you're not using capture T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you can't do it without one. The syntax (?:...) tells capture group it's not really capture group T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: damn triggers arent working T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just had a monitor crash my pc, that's a new one on me T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how'd it do that? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: assuming you could tell a difference between the monitor and the graphics device it was connected to... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly display driver crash at sense T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was a total system lockup T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I've had that issue with certain resolutions and generic drivers T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was testing a monitor, it was detected as 4 monitors but wouldn't work T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: think the cable might be borked T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it was common on my 3 display system when I first got Win7 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would a cable say resolutions of up to 1920x1200 when the screen goes higher? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wrong cable, maybe. like firewire versus usb or component versus the red/white/yellow AV cables, where they fit the same slots but do different things (and might mess stuff up when stuck in the wrong ones). T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well the crash cable was the original T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: trying to track down a replacement T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BonJovi Tech: unrelated, T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: res restictions are usually the driver T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BonJovi Tech: ftalk we were saving for my manor! T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BonJovi Tech: haha. a seroius tech question though. 8pin mobo power connector, 4 pin mobo. Will the store likely have a 8 female to 4 male? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i just don't get it. backup exec is dead set on spanning drives when it could write the same backup to the drive 3 times and still have space T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: any ideas? other than backup exec sucks T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: BonJovi: yes T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: living on a prayer that backup exec works T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BonJovi Tech: grats T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any thoughts on network storage for a home network? worth looking in to a seperate device/pc? or just use one of the computers on the network thats on anyway.. probably something running windows/ubuntu for a pc T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not much help if your place burns down/floods T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod, Not worried about any sort of backup on it.. media server, not anything i'm concerned with T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I have extra PC that does firewall/samba/distcc/whatever server T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i've got one now that runs the phones and such, that i've been using.. want to clean it up though. so either clean it up and back to how it is, or add a seperate device T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kind of want to set up VMWare sphere on it, but that'd kill its benefits as a media center unfortunately T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: h 3 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i 4 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ... you sunk my battleship T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Curi Tech: hrmm anyone know how to get a command prompt in emacs T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Step one, grow six more fingers... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is there a way to get MC to mask your password while you're entering it? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: put it into the connections properties page T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone know? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9816 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok thanks T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just curious bc zMud and KildClient do so it can't be too hard. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: kind of T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you mean mask the input bar or mask the output echo? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: What is a good source to learn enough Lua to make plugins? It T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: What is a good source to learn enough Lua to make plugins? It's one language I just haven't ever used T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the lua manual T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably too technical (ie, like the sqlite manual), so perhaps take a look at w3schools or similar tutorial sites. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: w3schools is awsome T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: well I survived Python and PHP manuals and I live in PL/SQL Oracle all day lol T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I just have some ideas for time, calendar, and weather miniwindows T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: simple enough, the big thing is getting the data all lined up so you know what to calculate for. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: looking to ad some stuff to bast's events miniwin T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: spamming TIME and WEATHER each tick is going to be rather intensive (and did I say spammy?), and you'll probably feel it unacceptable to delay updates until when the user uses those commands. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: really only looking to use it in certain areas. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: loke fighting day/night mobs T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Could someone help me with Lua for a sec? I was using jscript for accelerators, and I'm having a bit of trouble with Lua. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what trouble? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: I had a hotkey for trying to open any doors, and it used consecutive commands. I can't figure out the syntax. Let me paste the jscript in at least. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: AcceleratorTo ("Ctrl+o", "open north T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Ok, I'm having trouble pasting it in. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'll want to double those semicolons to past them T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Still not working. Right now its AcceleratorTo ("Ctrl+o", "open north T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Ok, I can't paste the entire thing. It keeps executing half the script. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the input bar eats single semicolons T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you need to use ;; T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: AcceleratorTo ("Ctrl+o", "open north;open south;open west;open east", sendto.world) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: So thats kinda half jscript, half Lua. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that is neither javascript nor lua T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's just a mushclient api call T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I created an alias and bound it to Keypad 7. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Obviously I'm not much of a programmer. :p T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ' T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but you want sendto.execute T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sendto.world won't parse those semicolons for you T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: alias openall open north T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: ;; to paste ; T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok well I can't show semicolons in chat T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: oh lol T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Sweet, its working. Thanks Fiendish! T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I created an alias and bound it to Keypad 7. ;alias openall open north;open south;open east;open west;open up;open down T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I use Ctrl+numpad directions T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I try to setup what I can in aard since I play on my phone and my Ubu netbook at times (tintin++) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Can you bind keys in aard? I thought that was a client-only type of thing. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it is T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Nod - I was talking in mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the keybind is in mc but the alias 'openall' is in aard T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Ah. That makes so much sense! I play a bit on my phone as well, and I'll have to try that trick. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have my tintin++ install working about the same way. I do miss the mapper in mc so I play in mc most of the time T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so why use tintin++ at all? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my netbook doesn't show mc the way I want in wine due to the size of the display T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ah, hmm. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tiny screen could be problematic T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what resolution? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: like 1024x800 I believe T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: this laptop I'm on right now is 1600x900 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I take it back, the netbook is 1024x600 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish nods. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it's my 'lil coder' :) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my x201 is 1280x800 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: this is an ASUS Eee PC 10". 13 hours of battery T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: everything is in my dropbox so I can pickup and put down anywhere T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I can get about 11 hours, but only with the 9 cell battery and certainly not while using Wine T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah with runescape or minecraft running it's dead in like 2 lol T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: but it's strong enough for me to run win7 in a VirtualBox T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how are cexits supposed to work? I have them set but how do you trigger them or know they are there? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: They are just used if the path can pass through them. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're used automatically in pathfinding T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: quit trying. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ahh ok. I'm also setting room notes so I know what to do to proceed T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Huh, how did I miss the discovery of the Higgs Boson last month? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: You were waiting for verification that it was a single particle? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you got taken by a slick real estate and only now got out from under that rock? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: It wasn't confirmed to be the higgs boson? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it's confirmed to be an unknown Boson. At this point, being the Higgs would be the *least* astounding. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And almost everything they saw of it was consistent with the Higgs. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Enough so that Stephen Hawkings paid off his $100 bet that they wouldn't find it T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: and if stephan hawkings says it's so T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: has to be replicated now, a sort of scientific version of "logs or it didn't happen" T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: they have logs. Two of them, in fact T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Nice way of putting it across Hanslanda :P T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And they agree T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just like those superluminal neutrinos they got all abuzz over earlier. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: well, there has never been a failure to find a particle that they were looking for, this is according to the what the Dance of the Wu Li Masters book :) T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: not in an accelerator, anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thalcot Tech: That superluminal neutrinos thing was great, if only because it generated the best research paper abstract ever. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: better than cold fusion? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thalcot Tech: http://boingboing.net/2011/11/22/best-research-paper-abstract.html T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the general theory of relativity does not rule out superluminar particles. I just don't know how they could detect one, though. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: the general theory of relativity does not rule out superluminar particles. I just don't know how they could detect one, though. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: sorry T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: how do you use mapper to goto a room id? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how do you find out that you can do it but not find out how? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: fail missed it in mapper help....and its been a while since i played T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone know a good program that'll automatically save screenshots as you take them? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: freeware printkey 2000 still works great even in W7 T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or get a mac T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: boooo T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: dont get a mac T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we use it at work to have print screen automatically go straight to printer at the customer service desk T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Mac OS has had this feature since I think the 1980s? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: before it was even called Mac OS T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: still......A modern mac T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Abelinc: wait...so you...you literally print...the screen? T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still...a modern Mac gives you Mac stuff, full BSD unix capabilities, and easy full-speed Windows stuff... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, for when customers want a printout of some stuff in their account, yes T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Just use BSD... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BSD only gives you 1/3rd of that... T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Mac OS is better than any other BSD T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I do use BSD on many of my systems T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm connected from a NetBSD machine right now T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Nice T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: IK mac gives you more features but soo expensive T3/r7/2012-08-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MacOS doesn't run on an AlphaStation or a Sunfire... T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: if my armor is invis that im wearing does it not affect my stats if i cant see it? or does it work the same after putting it on . even if i cant see its T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it works fine, you just couldn't re-wear it T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: ok thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: On mush client all of my keys on the numpad that are set to commands have stopped working, reinstalled mush, tried external keyboard, nothing works....any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: numlock on? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: note, they work in other programs as typing the numbers T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: numlock? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: keypad keys enabled? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, game -> configure -> keypad...enabled checkbox T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yep T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be one of those 2 things T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: put the mush folder on desktop, works fine T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: how can i check what the cooldown of a skill is? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: aff T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: thats the only way? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In a tech related way? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type recover T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mush shorter than aff T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err much T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, we're up to 52 types of recovery timers (many more than that number of spells/skills, as most recovery timers are shared between abilities) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: where do i switch all my automatic updates off at once? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you have a X on the top right corner...use it :) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: control panel->windows update probably T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming that's what you mean T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: hmm lemme check T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: yeah thanks, that was it T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: anyone in the swedish tech industry on here? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: bork bork computers T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: computers pay the bills T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: haha. online banking. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: riiight. i work in consulting in the US, and thought maybe someone could give me feedback in sweden. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: but i suspect this isn't the palce. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there'll be IRC channels more suited I suspect T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: perhaps T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: i used to geek out on other muds, but nm. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: might try reddit T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: yeah, i'm there T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: something about MUDs and UNIX people... they tend to work together T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are there any pup timers for mush T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: found one, will check how it's written T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do I convert 2.0020023 to 2, tonumber() says nil value T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: math.floor T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'd use string.format T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no actually tonumber does nothing, tointeger says nil T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Or what Cheez said. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nods, math.floor T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye this works T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or use the round() function that is in commas.lua T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or do math.modf, and it'll return both the integer part and the fractional part. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's silly to do manually when there's a round function though :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (which can be different than math.floor for negative numbers) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: depends on if he's actually wanting to round or just get the integer part. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commas.lua includes functions to add commas to numbers (1,000,000), to round, and to show duration in things like "4 d" or "4 h" T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: converting 125 secs to 2 mins and 5 secs is all T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got if check if secs < 60 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'd use the % operator for that, actually :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's that T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 125%60 will give you the number of seconds T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and math.floor(125/60) will give you the number of minutes T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: % basically gives you the remainder of the division T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: nods. math.floor(seconds/60) == minutes, seconds%60 == seconds after minute T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would those output error if seconds are less than 60 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No, it'll return 0 seconds T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 0 minutes, you mean ;) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 120%60 == 0 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they do, then just put in an if T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he means if it's 53 seconds T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright I'll rewrite tit T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Oh, I misread T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he'd get math.floor(53/60), 535 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so he'd get math.floor(53/60), 53%60 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should just give 0 minutes 53 seconds T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: if minutes >= 60 then minutes = math.floor(seconds/60) secondsLeft = minutes%60 else seconds = seconds end T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: else secondsLeft = seconds* T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You don't need to do any of that T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I love a good dhm function :-) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can't concat those table values in a single print, can I ? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: needs to be another string T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first one .. second one T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (not lua...just pseudocode) time = x seconds...days = floor time/24*60*60...hours = mod (time / (60 * 60) , 24)...mins = mod ((time/60),60), secs = mod (time/60)...if days > 0, let formattedtime = %days + "d"...if hours > 0, let formattedtime = %formattedtime + %hours + "h", etc T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're trying to concatenate a number and a string, you might have to use tostring() on the number T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it tries to figure it out when it can, but you often need to convert it T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: basically a print ("Time " .. tostring(p.mins) .. ":" .. tostring(p.secs)) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at TrEz. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well it doesn't work so I was wondering if it's possible this way T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will try string.format T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What doesn't work about it? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: [string "Plugin"]:168: attempt to call a string value T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and if I lose the tostring(), error is [string "Plugin"]:168: attempt to call field 'pupmins' (a number value) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll try stringformat T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what is p? is that a table? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: looks like a pup tracker T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: it sounds like it might be complaining about the fact that you're doing p.min and p.secs T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh, actually, if you're using the print function T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so a floor funtion aint working to round it? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: use commas instead of .. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: floor works T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: string.format also works btw T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Actually, you may or may not need to use commas. I don't ever use the print function. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what do you use T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Note() or Tell() T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (assuming this is for MUSHclient) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a difference between colournote and note T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: colournote lets you specify colors, basically T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I should get my help files for mush going, this googling is killing me :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that's sweet then T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod it's mush T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: think the format is (text, foreground color, background color, text, foreground, background...) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: fore/back might be backwards, not sure T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay :) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and you can just put nil (or a blank string, don't remember which) for background, and it'll use whatever your regular background is T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all helpfiles for mush are in web format on the mush website, btw T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I change chat colors in mc com log window? Seeing too much yellow T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help colorset T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: oh, I thought it was mc specific. Thanks T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, it listens to the MUD's colors T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how much should cost to pay someone to make me a resizeable movable miniwindow with scroll that saves position that I can include in a plugin T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Fiendish has this but it's soooo much code it gives me a headache T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will be that much code... T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what I mean is it'd take me days to figure out what all the code does T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cmud window -> #win, mush window -> 20 pages code T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's taking time from the important stuff T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the reason cmud window -> #win is that cmud windows using that CANNOT do a royal ton of things that miniwindows can... T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with extra flexibility comes extra complexity T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you could leave the complexity intact if you added a simple function with a few parameters to create a generic window T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that exists T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what we used before miniwindows T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does exist but the stock is retarded T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well then, you want the more powerful stuff, so you go into expert mode :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it needs some borders, a background, and be movable/resizeable, no need for scroll either T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno it feels like a chore sometimes T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start with the automap window then T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's put where another miniwin is, which one goes on top? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i turn off this dumb invinmon? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type invmon T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or load a plugin that uses/gags it T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the new one goes on top T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on zorder...it wasn't a question, just pointing out that there's no simplicity in what you think is a simple thing... T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start with a copy of aard_ascii_mapper, generate a new plugin ID, change the header info so it matches what you want, delete all the triggers...delete the mouseover that gives you the symbol key...it's a lot shorter now to look through T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one thing is that fiendish does a good job of commenting his code so you can usually tell pretty quickly if it's a "this plugin specific" thing or a "here's how I drew a window and made handles to pull on" thing T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: is it possible to change the font size in the main window of mush not just the communication window? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_main_output_font? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i get my last entered command to stay on mush T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: up arrow T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: or have I misunderstood the question? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: i want the last to remain there instead of dissapearing T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_make_commands_stay_on_the_input_line_after_I_hit_enter? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah. Just out of curiosity, why would you want that? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: judging from the url... that's the answer :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: I use the letter m to cast my spells T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: now i have to type m enter m enter, as opposed to just typing enter enter enter T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: make it a keybind... even easier T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: ah -- okay -- there is a repeat command plugin which I use T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like 7,9, / * or another numpad key T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: if this is mushclient you want to select "auto repeat command" in the input prefs T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: FYI, ! will repeat the last command sent to the mud. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I just use up, enter. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even better... macro ! :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: yeah i don't do what he's talking about "using m to cast", but i do use "auto repeat command" so i can type "bs sold" or something and just move around without typing bs sold again after combat T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i would bind his spells to an fkey macro intead of m T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, don't put macros on letters, then you can't type them :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i bound numpad to whatever is my current skill/spell based on level, and only if position is fighting T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: numpad * that is T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: that's a good idear, i don't think i use * for anything. i tend to use f7 for that T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if position = standing, it sends kt (kill target) based on another script i run T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if standing and no target.. does glance T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and just added a ninja bs check since i got back and can now bs in combat T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if anyone is interested, * macro and kt alias for zmud... http://pastebin.com/PbE2fr3P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: maybe it has ideas T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: I am trying to match the string where 53 is a variable in an if statement. Should I use (tempstring == "") or (tempstring == "") or something else? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: hold on, let me re-read that a couple times T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asoth nods, it's for c# T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: tempstring == string.Format("",INSERTYOURVARIABLEHERE) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: but that's for a very exact match... a regex might work better T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: I mean I don't know in advance what the 53 will be, i just want to check if the statement is in that format (Then after I want to pull out that variable and call it tempf) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crioni Tech: is this XML data? Why not use XPath? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: ok, so you don't know what the "53" will be, you're just looking for the stuff around it, and then you want to assign the "53" to a variable? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Right, Xantha T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'd agree with Crioni, if you're in an XDocument or XmlDocument, XPath is probably the easiest way T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: but if you're just reading a string that you can't trust to be proper XML, regex T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: And I'm pulling this stuff from another source, namely a webpage T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: ok, so definitely regex.... one sec T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crioni Tech: I've used the HTMLAgilityPack library for HTML parsing before. Might be an option. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: var rgx = new Regex("") T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: var rgx = new Regex("");var matches = rgx.Matches(teststring); ... now foreach over the matches and get the Groups[1].Value for the "53" part T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Xantcha d match negative temps? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you need negative, add a -? before the \d T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sometimes below zero temps sometimes not i'd assume T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: I should assume a [possibility of negative temps T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm doing this from memory, so you may need to Google a bit, but regex you want to use... get the match, get the capture T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: for negative: Regex("") T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: never hurts to plan ahead :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you may also want the potential for decimals: Regex("") T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if it gets more complex than that (they start adding degrees-C or something) then you'll need ot modify it again T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: but since the tag is temp_f I assume that won't happen T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: of course i only assumed temp_f = Temperature in F T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asoth thinks and plays with it T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Good call, Ozzy. Joys of having well named variables T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my vars are all VERY descriptive :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: well, xml on websites is typically optimized for smaller filesize... compiled code has the luxury of unlimited variable name length T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: else i forget wth i meant 6 months later T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: So if I want to check individually if it matches, if (tempstring == rgx) ?? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm not sure I follow? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: matches will return a collection of portions of the tempstring that match the regular expression (in case there are several temp_f elements) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you can iterate over each match (or just use rgx.Match() if you know you'll only get one)... and then check the Match's .Groups or .Captures collections for the strings T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: rgx=new Regex(""), right? So if (rgx.Match(tempstring)) then I have a match? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: rgx.Match(tempstring) returns an object, not a bool T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: What will it return? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: var match = rgx.Match(tempstring) if (match.Success) ///NOW you know you matched, check match.Captures or match.Groups for your "53" value T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asoth will have 4 captures. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: (or someone changed the damn website on me) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the regex you referenced has 1 capture T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: does anyone know about xsplit? or dazzle some kind of free streaming method T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: there's only one parenthetical T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Asoth plays with it, brb T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you want to get really fancy, and you know the schema for the XML won't change, define a XSD transform... you can generate C# code to automatically convert an XML (that matches the XSD) to a C# object with the properties you want T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: or if you can trust the XML, just parse it to XDocument and use XPath or Linq T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gamgee Tech: does anyone know about xsplit? or dazzle some kind of free streaming method T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: What library is regex in? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: System.Text ? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: or, more specifically, System.Text.RegularExpressions\ T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Only one problem. Visual studio is bitching about the word Regex in var tempfrgx = new Regex("") T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: The type or namespace "regex" is not defined T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you have a using for it? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: using System.Text.RegularExpressions; new Regex( ... ) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: I was told it was in "using System.Text T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I said it was in the text library, more specifically System.Text.RegularExpressions T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: wierd, I figured using System.Text would catch using System.Text.RegularExpressions T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: how can i match an ansi code in regex? i thought \e was escape, but it doesn't seem to be matching... T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Nope, if you're going into namespaces, you have to fully-declare the using or use the namespace in the constructor... new RegularExpressions.Regex( T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: one sec, Myrk, I have this in my source T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: \x1B\[([01]);(\d+)m T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, i'm an idiot T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that's a "standard" ANSI color code you'd see in Aard T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: \e works fine, i didn't have a capture so i was matching on an empty string :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: xterm looks like \x1B\[38 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: xterm looks like \x1B\[38;5;(\d+)m T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cool, thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: may I ask why? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: trying to pull out total stats from swho 12, but i need the whole line with colors to echo it back later T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so far it's looking like it's more trouble that it's worth, i think i'm better off sending swho 12 twice, once to capture the stats, once to capture the whole line with color :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: interesting... but why do you need the explicit colorcode capture? why not just make the trigger not consume the line, and manually color whatever additional output you want? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: cause i'm writing the lines back in a different order later :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so i can't just use a sub T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Ok, got it to recognice regex, whee. var match = tempfrgx.Match(tempString). All good. match.Success works. match.Groups gives me Cannot convert 'System.Text.Match.RegularExpressions.Group' to 'String' (Captures does the same) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: and you need them to be in the same colors as the original? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, it would look nicer :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Asoth... Groups[1].Value T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm writing "swho 14", sorting by total potential T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: does mush a function to enter a command multiple times without typing it out T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: That seems to work. Thanks T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: like train convert 40 times T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you could likely make an alias for that Limunious T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: ahh ok like on cmud u would do POUND40 train convert T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: but AFAIK it doesn't have a built in #number operator like zmud... but that's a simple loop alias T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: just make # an alias, make the first argument a number for loop, then do a lua loop sending the rest of the srguments as a command to the mud T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: converts to new Regex("") T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Right? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: looks about right T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: And my last challenge translates to regex("" T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I wouldn't do that one that way T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Why not, other than \I missed a \? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'd change (\w+) to Wind: (N|NE|E|SE|S|SW|W|NW) at (\d+) mph T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: I need the entire phrase. will the /w+ catch a "? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: or generalize the directions to a ([NWSE]+) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm not sure the \w will capture the whole phrase, I don't think it'll match your spaces T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Ah T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: better to do data=\"([^\"]+)\" T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that should be "match any number of non-quote characters here, followed by a quote" T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Using bast's spellup, do I have to add every spell I want it to cast or does it pull from your default list? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: translates to regex("" you mean? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: daikojun, try bsp sadd all T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: but you typically need to remove first T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: looks right, Asoth T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ahh, thank you T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Thanks T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: can you add clan skills/spells to bsp? it says I haven't learned it yet and thus won't cast it T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do you add clan skills to bsp? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone know how to add clan skills to bast's spellup plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Ok...I am stupid, I have to be. I am coding in c#. Default.aspx. I want to print on the main page "The date is" today's date. So I am trying to use a label. On the main page, I have In the cs, on page load, I tried Label1.Text="The date is " + date T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Ok...I am stupid, I have to be. I am coding in c#. Default.aspx. I want to print on the main page "The date is" today's date. So I am trying to use a label. On the main page, I have In the cs, on page load, I tried Label1.Text="The date is " + date; The error reads "The name 'Label1' does not exist in the current context" What stupid thing am I doing wrong? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: nm, stupid error. I forgot the = between runat and "server T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone have a board/note notifier plugin for MC? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}P-Whisped Habit Tech: Have any of you ever repeatedly received "unable to save state file" errors from mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: don't run it from a protected folder T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}P-Whisped Habit Tech: it isn't T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}P-Whisped Habit Tech: it isn't running there, but it is apparently trying to save there T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: weird T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: any log files full? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}P-Whisped Habit Tech: I'm not logging anything... I don't think T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: have you tried turning it off and on again T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: every now & then I'll see that message...I chalk it up to fluke & continue on...but I only mostly open & close MUSHclient to look for where some setting is for someone else, so I don't care about my state files, etc T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, some version of the software changed whether it says "zip" or "zipcode", and stuff entered in one version won't match the other version...or that's also the danger when you add/modify stuff using sql like the vendor was doing a couple weeks ago, since it's not going through the GUI which should have the checks in there for the exact value names they want T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Anyone know how to use xpath with an XML file? I'm -> <- close to finishing this stupid problem T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Anyone? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: w3schools is usually a great resource, and they have xpath as one of the things they cover T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.w3schools.com/xpath T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: i can call up ytube videos and get the box, but nothing plays, any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Trying to get to a value at /forcast_information/urent_date_time in the file xdoc.Load(C:\temp\data.xml") T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Trying to get to a value at /forcast_information/@curent_date_time in the file xdoc.Load(C:\temp\data.xml") T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: What I am trying to use is date=xdoc.SelectSingleNode("/forcast_information/urent_date_time").Value T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: Anypone know what I am doing wrong? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Anyone recommend a simple way (windows 7) to take two seperate image files and combine them into one image file (so the pictures are side by side) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: well mspaint can do that, but if you want more control, download gimp, its free T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: okie thanks :0 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: you still aren't going to avoid having to learn some concepts, changing the image size, copy pasting, etc T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ohh i know the basics of image editing, just didn't know that it was that easy to add stuff in T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: just tried it with mspaint and it was very easy. thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: sweet. picture combination turned out pretty good looking :) tnx Milkshake! T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know a mud @ color code to html converter online anywhere? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: eg, paste in a colored string and get html out T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Am I the only one who has issues with the black not taking up the entire background of Mushclient in the mainwindow? The grey background comes through. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: How do I get bast's spellup plugin to use clan skills? Even after toggling it says I haven't learned it and the timer isn't there. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: I would suggest winklewinkle's spellup, Had a much better experience, finger winklewinkle T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ty T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ha! I had that project starred already T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: not because of technology, it is the fault of the educational system. I think I am entitled to use a gps system because if my battery runs out, I just look at a paper map, for instance. I was taught how to read maps in school. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Undertaken Anaristos Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mendaloth: screenshot T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Undertaken Anaristos grins evilly at Mendaloth. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ozzy: dunno about an @ converter, but mushclient has a "Copy as HTML" option T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: found that, fired it up todo what i needed :P thanks though T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i made a quick one in php that dos... $text = str_replace("", "", $text); for all the mud colors T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all of them? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you know the mud supports xterm 256 colors now T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ... $text = str_replace("@r", "", $text); ... one line for each color T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think zmud doesn't, though. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud does not, cmud does though T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Isn't that a little messy though? All the font tags not getting closed? T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose as long as you close them all at the end it should work out ok T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: one last line closes all open tags.. messy but works T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I bet it's hell on the parser, though T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You could make @w do , but something like @Rhello @Yhi @Gbye@w would be a little messy. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's a web page... i dont care :P T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just make any new color code start with an end tag T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah, that may work. T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is a trivial problem to solve T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I have the latest version, clean install, unzipped it into a new folder, haven't touched anything it opens fine: imgur.com/a/91BwI But when I try to make it bigger bigger the black sometimes stops getting bigger: http://imgur.com/a/pPg39 T3/r7/2012-08-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's what it does... replaces You would stomp into the ground. becomes --> -20 and below output "You would stomp * %1" T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: eh not quite that but you get what I'm saying T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: You would stomp %2 %1 T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: might be easier to just keep the whole line and append the number after. (G) You would stomp foo mob into the ground (-20) T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: except that the first * would match on the "Troll tells you, '" part of the spoof. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that should make it easier then maybe .. '(\(.*?)\)|)blah blah blah (.*?) blah blah blah T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: the whole line is too spammy when using the consider command to check names of mobs in room T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the pattern fail wouldn't occur until you reached the trailing ', and would actually match if the troll figured out how to suppress it (there was or perhaps still is a way to do that.) T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: unless someone is trying to defeat a specific regexp trigger it shouldnt be that much of an issue right ? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: is "(I)(T)(G)(W)" really all that spammy in front of a line? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: not so much but rest of line is T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's really not hard to just memorize the consider messages and to know whether you can take a given mob or not. *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think mush comes with a consider colorer. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: For example: This is what I get: (G) A vacationing worker would crush you like a bug! (+21 to +30) T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah done that but then i have to take time to scan through each line checking to see if my mob target is there T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i dont get that bob T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that's a plugin you can get T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It comes with Mush. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: bast has the consider plugin T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh it's bast T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bah ... need mobs to test on T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You mean you don't know if your target is in the room before you walk into it? You don't use scan output? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I missed the part where Imalish wants to strip out all of the "you would stomp" "into the ground" part and just have the mob name T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i do use scan sometimes but its also very spammy T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Just scan for what you're looking for... T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can scan in the current room only but I prefer consider too :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: scan creates 10+ lines scrolling off top of screen in crowded areas T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can 'scan ' to cut down on it T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: starling: useful if im going to type out full command instead of using macro'ed keypad for scanning :/ T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Meh, I alias 'v' to scan, 'vn' to 'scan north', vs to 'scan south', etc. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can scan here T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i use sc (?P.*?) as alias T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: (White Aura) A Barbarian Trebuchet snickers nervously. is not triggering T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: with that 'sc' just scans but 'sc north' or 'sc bob' scans north or scans bob T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's a shame MUSH is such a bastard to learn to script on. Cmud is much easier. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: trigger is ^(.*?) snickers nervously$ T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's much more extensive imho T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It's notoriously hard for beginners, I agree. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: mushclient is best client T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: forgot the . at the ned T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: end T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, Mush is not superior in features than CMud. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think it was that hard for me to pick up after years of using zMUD T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: and yeah it is you just have to learn/know an actual language T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: it is if you consider the ability to draw directly to the screen canvas a feature T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's an even bigger shame that Cmud could be the leading client, but isn't due to Zugg either not caring, not being willing to bother to fix things, or whatever his reasons are for more or less abandoning it. *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he didn't abandon it. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: he did T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: More than a year without an update? I'd call that abandoning it. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, he definitely did not. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: version 2 went a full 3 years (2 of which were for the v3 beta). T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: zugg's last posting was about getting a job and moving to...DC? and that he wouldn't be making updates because of that T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and about how mudding is a dying field and that he'll never make enough money doing it to be worth his effort T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: this is all in his blog T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you need to reread it. You missed a few key details. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: '(White Aura) A Barbarian Trebuchet snickers nervously.' now triggers '^(\((.*?)\)|)(.*?) snickers nervously.$' and makes 'White Aura --> +2 to +4 (White Aura)' any suggestions ? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you are using %1 where you should use %2 with the mobname T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: trigger reply is '%2 --> +2 to +4 %1' T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: heya, somehow i'm not getting any spacing between lines, everything is running together, anybody know how to fix it? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you type compact? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: no, compact is not set T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you install a script that eats blank lines? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: no, not to my knowledge T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well you did one of those two things T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because there aren't other options T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: this happened to me before and abelinc helped me and now i forgot T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: your regex only allows for one flag T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... i need a mob to check on that has more than 1 tag T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: use the echo channel and make one up T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ctrl+shift+f12 T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have detect good/evil, make a quick run through call of heroes. Lots of mobs have sanc plus good/evil. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: also doesn't allow for space between flags and mob name T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hmm echo '(Invis)(White Aura) A Barbarian Trebuchet snickers nervously.' now outputs 'A Barbarian Trebuchet --> +2 to +4 (Invis)(White Aura) ' T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: score T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: trigger is now '^(\((.*?)\) |)(.*?) snickers nervously.$' T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I guess the .* is catching those middle brackets T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Use (.*?). it's much cleaner I think T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: im ok with that T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bob: for catching the spelleffects ? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'm not exactly sure what you're doing, but (.*?) is usually more effective if you've got text after the wildcard to catch. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there is text after wildcard T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Then use (.*?) instead of (.*). T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mushclient: trying to change color of output text T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: \text isnt working T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: err @Wtext isnt working T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: change color of output text in what? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: look to the menu system, or did you mean via script? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ColourNote? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: I just tried making a script that changed the color of the line, and I'm getting a very persistant message that I need to restart the mushclient. I tried this with little success. Anyone know a fix? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What exactly is the message? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you restart mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: It looks like you changed your ANSI color settings. Please restart MUSHclient for these changes to take full effect. 4x per line that is colored. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: I assumed so. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what do you assume? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: That closing and opening counts as a restart? Perhaps not? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you restarted mushclient and the message persists then you're doing something you probably shouldn't be T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: can you send me the script you wrote? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe I can help you rewrite it in a way that will work T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: It's pretty much just *CLAN* than the colors changed. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that doesn't help me T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I need to see what your script is doing, not "pretty much just" T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: There isn't anything in the actual box, thats really kinda it for the trigger. If it senses clan, it turns it another color. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Is there a way to copy/paste the entire box? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=4776 T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes, read this T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Is there a way to paste in a block? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: write a note T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: of course T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: interesting T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: I think I just posted it on a personal note for you fiendish. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm...this may present an issue for my color translation routines T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but why don't you just tell the mud to send clan in a different color? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use colorset T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Because Im an idiot. That's why. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Thanks fiendish T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Going to go try that now. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you've presented me with an interesting problem, though. I'll see if I can fix this in the client setup T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, colorset T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: An interesting note though, I had a near identical trigger for a *doubled experience* line. It worked flawlessly. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I'm not surprised. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eagleton Tech: Ok, just thought I'd let you know. Colorset seems to be working. Thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think it should only happen on channels. I understand the exact cause. I just need to think of a way around it. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: sorry, just started watching, what's the issue? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: curious? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you'll find the offending function stylesToANSI() in aardwolf_colors.lua T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: at least two ways around the problem are obvious to me. I'm just not sure I want to use them. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone wrote an expratio plugin for mush? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like ... 77.0 exp per second for 2 seconds. (154exp) T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: per fight or over a period of time? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: per fight T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What if the combat were instantaneous? Divide by 0? :-P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My spouse did, but I don't have a copy of it. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: lemme check T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: your spouse divided by zero?! T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mine would give XXX for 0 seconds T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: how do you alias in mush where you want to cast multiple spells at a target. like you just input 1 , then it is aliased that you will cast weaken, cast poison, cast rune of ix on the target? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: assuming something like a backstab vorpal T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Well, technically, each combat skill costs 3 seconds, so... T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Cast the first one at the target, then cast the others without a target T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 2 seconds here... from [1] Your backstab to You receive 149+15 T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nah, don't have a copy of it, sorry T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: really handy script for teaching people what they should be killing :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just let it divide by 0 for those vorpal kills or whatever T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: they're anomalies anyway, so i don't really care about the exp/time T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think your gmcp state ever actually changes if you kill a mob on the first hit. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: might be wrong, though. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You're right T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I think it used to, but no longer does T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: not enough time for the mud to pulse with a one-hitter T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So if that's how your doing it, your script wouldn't pick it up anyways. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can trigger on the your blah does blah to blah T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Good point - time difference between gmcp states would work. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or the exp line T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: that's such a hack though, red T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Though it might not get you a per-mob time, if you're attacking whole rooms at once T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud without gmcp here... just using %time( ss) on fight start and end T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: We triggered on the exp line to end it, not the state changing back. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, same T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I consider one-hits to be non-combat time anyways, it's instant xp. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Pretty sure Duckbat wrote a proxy client that allows non-GMCP clients to access GMCP T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well unless you're lv 1 :p T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but yea it doesn't really matter T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh.. i use that.. just this script is older then the proxy :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: it's a very good script for figuring out areas to level T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Then again, if you're too the point that level speed matters anyways, you don't really pay attention to the script :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod... when to leave an area, when your too early for an area... T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i still pay attention to it when i was redoing... T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Once you know the game/usual speed, you mentailly make those associations :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: All it takes is one kill to go "yeah, too early" or "hmmm, too late" T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: based on what, fight length? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: vs how much xp i got, yeah. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that's precisely what the script does for you :p T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I know if I'm killing where I should, xp should average between 73 and 102 T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think it's that simple to judge whether a fight that I got 240 exp for took more or less than 3 times as long as one I got 80 exp for. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so i use a calculator... big deal :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: except i don't need to pay as much attention T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Your mind can do it faster :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'd do more than one kill. It's conceivable that you might pick a hard-for-you mob in a crowd of less-hard-for-you mobs you might stick around for. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or just one that hasn't been killed in a long time. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i prefer seeing the number to confirm :p T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm too lazy to do anything but AoE level, so I don't go places with 'hard-for-me' mobs :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ozzy nods at Redryn. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i aoe level so it's usually 5 or so mobs T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i gotta ask... aoe? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Area Of Effect T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: age of empires T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: attacking the whole room at once (via earthquake, fire breath, etc.) T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: age of empires was my guess to Scurvy :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: letters of alphabet T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mostly vowels T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure about that e though T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Entirely vowels, even... T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there an enforced line/character limit to the note editor? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: length T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think there is a maximum note length T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there is, i don't know what it is though T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably 1 kilobyte T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 1000 characters? no, definitely more than that :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's ideas notes longer than that on a fairly regular basis T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wish it were lower... supid 10 pages notes :P T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's a note, not a novel T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: load a map and hit F5 10 times... 10 views T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Showing rows 0 - 1 ( 2 total, Query took 0.0063 sec) T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it slows you down? T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dangit... mis T3/r7/2012-08-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i have'nt looked T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: trying to replace text output from mud with different colored text formatted in the way i have specified . sending it as output doesnt allow me to change the color and sending it to world and execute cause it to output a statline in between each output T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tried send to script? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sending to script gives errors T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: look into the ColourTell function T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, what are you sending? :P T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 'echo %3 --> +21 to +30 %1' is what is in my output box right now T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 'echo @r%3 --> +21 to +30 %1@w' is what is in my output box right now T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: in order for "send to script" to work, the output box needs to be an actual programmed script T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i figured that T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, if you use the mud's echo command, you're gonna get a prompt... you need to use client-side echoes T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and to use those with color changinge codes ? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ColourTell("red", "black", "%3) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: wait T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ColourTell("red", "black", "%3") T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if you want the whole line as one colour, use ColourNote which puts a newline at the end T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: probably want ColourNote instead of... yeah, what he said T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ColourNote("red", "black", "%3 --> +21 to +30 %1") T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: where can i locate the help file for colournote ? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=ColourNote T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceto Tech: Hello all; does anyone use the Mudlet client with the MAG package by chance? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: MUSHclient is the most popular client around here. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: People use all kinds of weird stuff, though. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: type "clients" to see. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceto Tech: I was trying to Wine the MUSH client for my Mac with no luck :( T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Seeing that there is only 3 Mudlet users, the answer to your question seems to be "no" T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I wonder how the mud knows which client it is T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceto Tech: Haha I guess I'll just continue working on getting Mush to work then :) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: no idea. Some Telnet negotiation thingy probably T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, it works fine on Linux with Wine. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ceto Tech: Guess I'll keep working at getting it going. Thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Distortion Tech: My tick timer hasnt worked on the standard aard client yet. Anyone know the fix? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why isn't it working? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that's another way of phrasing the quetsion, yes T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can't really suggest 'the fix' when we don't know 'the problem' T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it might need autotick on T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: HA I Got the zlib working! MCCP T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Writing your own client? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KinPYtterP Moolb Tech: botter alert T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: does ssh client support mccp? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: It's already in the app store :) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: yeppers T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What's it going to be like? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: botter? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: oh bot T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: look for Mudder in the app store for os x T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: some screen shots on mudder.javajman.com T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I am soooo happy I can do mccp negotiation after banging my head on the desk T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I was gonna tell the other guy he was on the spot it wasn't the libz library T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: it has blind support, triggers, macros and the new update on the way has most of the MSP and macros/variables combo, speed walking, chinese language support T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: and soon MCCP WOOT T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: ok thanks for letting me toot the hornn ^_^ T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the horn of gondor T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: fwiw, isn't mudlet ported to mac? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I got a for loop for mush, used to work last night T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: now it tells me '=' expected near 'for' T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: wtf :) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: any clues ?:) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: post the whole line with the error? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for i =1, 7 do T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: spaces ? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well no :P and I didn't add those myself anyways T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: missing a bit T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what bit T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: for var = start, finish, step do T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that's the whole line T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: oh I guess the step is optional T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try to add space before 1 (for i = 1) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: your for loop opening works for me with or without space, I would suspect the lines above the loop not being finished properly T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: before that is an alias only T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the error is on line 2 tho, on this for T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which used to work before I went to bed for sure T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: gonna try resarting mud in 10 mins T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: does it have an if without a then? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: no forget that.. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: this alias you mentioned, that is sent using Exec() and not just there as a word, if you switched the thing from output to script? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: output is to script T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and the alias is as a word T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there's your problem then. put the alias inside Exec("aliashere") T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: looks like that should be execute() not exec() my mistake T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Execute("") T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Execute(politicans) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: killall -HUP lawyers T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: do hoh political humour T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye the alias is the issue I'll try exec in a min T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay I'm back T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: exec won't work, it's an alias T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh wait I'm mixing stuff up T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it doesn't need to be alias at all T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apprently I changed it from alias to mud command and thought it'd work but it's a script, so ye T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will add exec and gon be fine T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why do Samsung make it impossible to get hold of their repairs team be email? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: anybody know how i can see the tick timer on aardmush? could see it on mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I belive that's a plugin Aardwolf_Tick_timer T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean autotick ? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: well autotick just informs me when a tick happened, on my mushclient you can see it counting down by twos T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you need that mud count down for you time to tick? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i think it is only client side T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: no i just like seeing how much time left to tick T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: winkle winkle's ticktimer allows youto see it updating every second T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: goto File>Plugin see if Aardwold_Tick_timer is active T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but he want to use it without client - possible on pure telnet T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: ok myopic will do T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: huh yeah it says it's enabled T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: hit reinstall T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: k T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if you have anything else that uses the status bar, one will have to go T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it's at the absolute bottom of window, make sure you can see that T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: which window? the main window like mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: yep main T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for anyone using zmud/cmud and the mapper... cool find&teleport,,, just need a diff trigger for "glance" info T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://necro.wikidot.com/advanced-mapper-find T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: heya new to aardmush, how do i get rid of certain windows? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: new regex for trigger(assumes brief 1): ^(.*)\n^.*\n^\[ Exits: (.*) \] T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Which window? Stock install I assume? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: File > Plugins > Select the ones that resemble the windows you don't want, and disbale them. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: ok T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: while we are on to aardmush.. anyone using winklewinkles Search and Destroy? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I can't get it to work T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hockey Sticks no! T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it works ok, but if you are on a cp and then take a gq it has a hissy fit T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but I'm guessing with the comment you made turie you can't help me make it pick between the two. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it never finds my mobs T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mine does... i think it is very dependednt to the number of rooms you have in mapper T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you have explored 21% of mud - just do areas 1 80 unexplored and explore up to 100% T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do I use < > with if check ? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't seem to work T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I get winkle's spellup to ignore Totem Guidance and use Totem Force? I have NoAuto set but it doesn't pickup Totem Force. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: check help forgetskill T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so I have to forget it from the game? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: winkle's spellup utilizes spellup list from the game T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I try to compare table element with a number I get Line 31: Element name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with " " (Cannot load) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why is that T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not empty also I use tonumber() T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How are you accessing the table element. With t.foo or t["foo"]? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: both didn't work T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it.s t.foo right now T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what is line 31? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if toint(char.al) < 50 then T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh it's toint in this case, I guess I changed it T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but tonumber has same error T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: needs to be number anyways, not int T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if it's == instead of < there's no error btw T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does lua have cardinal gt/lt for non-numerical data? Could be that's the issue, idk enough about lua to say for sure though T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Especially if toint needs camel case or some such and is in fact returning nil T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: < I believe T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not for that reason, though, but that might fix it T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: lua has problems even with sorting 0 before 1 when you put it to table... it's very hostile language T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It sounds like it's interpreting what you're writing as xml T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But replacing < with < will probably fix it T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme try then T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Line 36: No closing " T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: err T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Line 36: No closing ";" in XML entity argument "<" (Cannot load) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Is this in the script section of a plugin, or an alias/trigger, or just a script file? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alias section of plugin T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: tho it's alias cause I'm testing it is all T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, if you have it call a function, you won't have to worry about all that, I believe. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll try T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's my guess, at least. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Think it might be because the script part is usually inside CDATA T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: doesn't work but I have no cdata T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, yeah it's an exercise in futility to code withing parsed xml...nightmare. Put it in cdata :-P T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: within* T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (I think) without CDATA, everything you're writing is going to be parsed in xml T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So every < and > will expect to be the beginning and end of tag thingies. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ampersands...double quotes...you'll probably have trouble with both of those, too T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh sweet it's nice now T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I wonder how much more crap has gone wrong cause the lack of cdata T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: do you remember the syntax to comment inside the cdata T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: -- T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: besides -- which I think works T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what if I wanna comment a paragraph T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: --[[ to start T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ]] to end T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sweet, thank you T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Comments are identical inside cdata as out...except outside cdata you have both lua comments AND xml comments T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use -- only inside cdata T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As the [[ will break the cdata block T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think I've had trouble with using --[[ inside cdata T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My bad, cdata end is ]]>, not ]]. nvm T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: New iPhone seems 99% sure to have USB 3.0 support...finally T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Is there any way for me to import my aliases from zmud into mush? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They use totally different languages, so probably not T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Nod that's what I figured. Thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: thec T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: is there a who option for those not using compression, like who !compress ? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: does anybody know a reason the command bar would go away in aardmush? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i'm typing blind T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Try dragging the bar back up? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: don't see it, it's a dark gray background T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I don't know the titles to click to get there anymore. But if you hit alt+enter you'll be taken to your settings. Find the colors page and look what your input bar color is set as. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: ok T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so how does winkle's disarm script work? I set a "w1" but it didn't wield it. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: which plugin can i use to "say" my stats T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Just use the command 'report stats' T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: just type report stats T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: oh doh! thanks T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: how would you configure the Aardwolf MUSHclient to "scroll up" on your output window when you hit the Up arrow (or Shift + Up Arrow)? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: is that possible? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whee! Google is changing their search algorithms to lower the ranks of any site that frequently gets copyright infringement warnings. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Does that mean Youtube will get dropped out of the first 100 pages? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: youtube belongs to google T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That was the whole point of my statement. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume that's a bad thing because of how easy it is to level allegations of that sort and not exactly because they really were violating copyrights? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, it's only going to take one or two mistakes where someone IS wrongfully dropped in ranks for it to create problems for Google. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: so im setting up a controller and i have an adapter plugged in for the PC. Im trying to play Oblivion with it. The controller works perfectly well for games played with an emulator, but it wont work right with oblivion. I can change my controls and all of that works fine. I can even move with the analog. But the 'look' function wont work at all. I have to use my mouse in order to turn the camera. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: Any ideas on how I can make this damn thing work right? There is nothing in the options in the oblivion menu that i can find. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: whenever i type cast psychic healing, it tells me they are not here. that is the syntax the helpfile gives T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: cast 'psychic healing' T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Forgetting the quotes? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: ok the quotes should go. but thanks ! T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, the quotes should not go. :p T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's how the mud knows that the spell name is > 1 word T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: FWIW, if you're doing it a lot, easier to use the spell number (cast 132) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The syntax in the help files will be exactly what you need to type. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: when im laying in a hospital room having to speak what it types. the quotes make it hard T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olympian Rumour Tech: then use the spell number :) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then do as Pedwiddle says and use the spell number. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: i am now. much easier. thank you. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Sure thing T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Otherwise, the MUD wouldn't know the difference between 'c detect good' and 'c detect evil' T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And other things like that. T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dinkers Tech: mush guru on now? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Fiendish was last on 10 hours ago, but always better to ask your question, might not need a guru :) T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dinkers Tech: lost my events window. Tried to disable, enable, reload, still gone. Any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: reinstall the plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try "mev events toggle" T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dinkers Tech: yes, tried that T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: otherwise, try "mev events reset" then "mev events show" T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dinkers Tech: thank you best T3/r7/2012-08-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: your welcome T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: in mushclient i am getting no spaces between lines in the main window, and it's not compression or space-eating scripts, any clues? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: a spell on you? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do you have compact on? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Type 'compact' :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: no it's not compact T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: type whoismom T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: sodoesthatmeanIdon'thavetousespaces? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i meant 'compact' not 'compression' in my original question T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, wait, we're all supposed to laugh at Zanbone's trolling attempts. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zanbone P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You sure you don't have any scripts that eat blank lines? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Prompt, perhaps? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: yep positive and that's the same thing fiendish said, hrm T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: is there a font command? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There'd be no other reason for you to lose space. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Fonts are handled clientside. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Do you have a prompt trigger that might be eating it? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: yeah that's what he said as well but this happened one other time and i think it was abelinc that helped with it and it was something different, but i lost my notes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try hitting enter a few times. Does it send any spaces then? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: nope pedwiddle T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, do you have a statmon trigger, does your prompt end in a %c newline, Omit_Blank_Lines.xml isn't active? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: actually etzli i'm on aardmush right now, but i prefer the other mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They're pretty much one in the same. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardmush is just mushclient... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aardmush just comes with prepackaged scripts. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fiendish downloads the latest from mushclient.com, runs it, installs some plugins, and zips it up T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you download a new aard mushclient and log in using that (withOUT adding/removing any plugins, just download and run), does the problem follow you? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: game prompt does end in %c T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: problem is in mushclient 4.73 but not in aardmush, strange T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it's plugin-based (wow, 4.73 is old :P) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do you have any plugins running in your other setup? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: was running 4.72 forever T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: brb gonna log on 4.73 mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't know why you're not using the latest MUSH anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: do y'all still use mod connect? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: mud connect even T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Auto hunt scripts illegal? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: tks T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not unless they kill at the end. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as they don't attack T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thought so, double checking. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks all T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what if the mob is aggro?! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: ok checked this out and the omit blank lines plugin was enabled, disabled it and voila worked, thanks everyone T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: lol Red :p T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should upgrade to 4.81 or whatever the latest version is. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: What if I auto hunt into a PK room and run into an Agro Redryn! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i'm pretty sure that's what you told me last time abelinc T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: ok etzli T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then you get nuked, Doink. Sorry. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is it pk botting if you afk in pk rooms and kill doinks that attack you? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: thank you Etzli, Pedwiddle, Abelinc and Redryn for your time, I appreciate it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, my first PK was an afk-kill T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks at your saying. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Lol.. I might quit if I cant kill you while your afk T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DoHbie didn't have novorpal and attacked me when I was afk in the first room of dark elf T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: afk in aggro room. reported T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: damn bot T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: came back to keyboard just in time to see the vorp proc :-) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: thanks again Abelinc T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: reported! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Abelinc admits to botting Please nuke. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: afk botting + vorpal exploit T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Redryn. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: instant killing players is obviously a bug T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh yeah, and luring people into pk. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Obviously a newbie. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: dohbie, he admitted it was T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, I'm diabolical T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: anyone know why xrt fayke takes me to White dragon clan (muchclient) ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not set properly? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: you have to first rt fayke, before you can xrt. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: Ive redone xset T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: very strange T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: what's xrt? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: part of Winklewinkle plugin T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: it's winkle's extended runto T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: plugins plugins everywhere T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Can be buggy.. I have xsets reset from time to time... tinker with it. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: I love plugins T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: usee mapper purgezone or w/e T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Too many people rely on plugins. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: purge dragon and or purge fayke T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's like you can't play without plugins, and it's sad. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Would be hard to play without the mapper.... so use to it now. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: ahhh thanks T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's your problem, Doink. :D T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Wouldnt wanna loose auto hunter script either. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why? Because it's too hard to type 'hunt ' repeatedly? :p T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nothing wrong with things that make the game more enjoyable, while not doing so at the expense of others/rule violations T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: I played for years & years with just ZMud & telnet...Ill take the plugins T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I actually went for months without updating to the mapper.. liked my client how it was. When I finally did.. zoom. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: zMUD had scripts, and you could do a lot of what MUSH does today. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Not hard, but the less keys I type the better. I game alot.. at this rate I will surely get carpal tunnel.. or however you spell it. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: telnet didnt...and all I had for first couple of years T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod etz T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So? You can still play relatively well with telnet. :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: yes...but I find the plugings more enjoyable T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but winning gq just with telnet could be really hard T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though admittedly, I write my own scripts, but most of them are eye-candy. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I used SimpleMU, no idea if it supported plugins T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: People do it all the time, Trachx. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: lol...purged dragon...and it staill takes me there T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Purge fayke? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Doink, sorry, you have to feed info to a plugin. Otherwise, he doesn't get it. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli runs away in utter terror! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Could try restarting client to.. beyond that.. is beyond me though. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: purged fayke and no go...Ill restart and fiddle some T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i have had similar issues with other places ... not sure it has anything to do with the mapper/extender's information. think its the stored path to the location T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Works well.. but has minor bugs for sure. I get bugs in basts scripts also. Run them both.. and you dont know who to blame! :) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: resrated and still the same T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: solution rt fayne...not xrt fayke T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: think you missed what i said earlier mottle T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: I restarted so think I did yes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: could you repaet pls T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i have had similar issues with other places ... not sure it has anything to do with the mapper/extender's information. think its the stored path to the location T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: not sure what you mean by storted path ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: hey all :) A mate needs to do sound monotoring at a few diff sites - atm they have to sit there for an hour and every minute press a button on the decemeter and enter the reading on paper and then go back and enter the paper into an excel spreadsheet .... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: my idea - get a timer and a few servos and use a camera. The camera is activated every minute to record the image of the decimeter by the timer via a servo and then the decimeter is reset using another timer/servo bank and the camera timer activated by the secomd timer ... ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: cheaper solution, hire a few interns to do exactly what is being done ;) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: build a box with this in it and just dump it - pick it up when it's done - any feedback ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: why take away jobs for intern's T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Get a smartphone and write a decimeter app, set it up to remotely report the data. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: no is government - they can't hire plebs - min wage etc T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: then why take away a good paying job T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: needs to be a calibrated decimeter - yeah first suggestion I made T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cause the worker stuck doing this could be recycling non ferrous metals instead T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: also needs to be a portable uint - vandalism therer is a concern T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cant be hard - decimeter a couple of actuators to press the buttons (ok old schol but they dont want their eq rewired ) a timer and a power source T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What in the world does a decimeter do? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: and a cheap camera - it is the gov ... spend all u want on inefficiency just don't make it an asset T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: does this mean you're back in the real world Tzad? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I need a timing circutboard - I'm all over servos/actuators anyone ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I'm in a halfway house T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: a decimetre is ten centimetres T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: decibel smartass then T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: currently reprogramminnnng my housemates :D thats going well :D T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you try to create mechanical bot? just to simulate player behaviour - pressing keys? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: is Dosimeter what you're after? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Avoid those stupid metric units, they are just too hard. I mean, having everything divisible by 10, that's just craazee :D T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: undetected us an old plotter for key pressing - just mix up times - they can't pick that up if ur smart with timing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol my mate works at the dump - it's a sound meter to him .. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: base 16 is the go :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: it's free wood .. the hydrocarbon kind ! payback is intellectual :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Scurv dosimeter seems to be a blanket term btw - got radiation sound all sorts T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: noise dosimeter T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i thought for sound they were called bellmeters T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cause they measure bells ? another imperial term perhaps ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: decibel T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a decibel is 0.1 of a bel T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bels are noisy T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol dude is better to get one of these noise dosimeters on the phone n sell him an out of the box sol'n lol why do I keep trying to reinvent the wheel fer ppl ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a bel is a 10 times relative difference T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Isn't a dosimeter for radiation or something? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: 20log10 (gain) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tzadkiel D Love this place :D learned something ! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: where do I find over the counter vit B shots ? is there such a thing ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: why not take the oral tablets? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: what's wrong with tablets? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: not enough T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh, tablets T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not sure what that has to do with tech =p T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: why do you think it's not enough? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: is chem tech - keep up :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I know the boost they gave me when I went in was amazing - nearly better than coke n more functional and lasted days T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost looks at Tzadkiel and goes "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I have heard good things about B shots T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Hmm ? unpack ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: in the UK, we use Pabrinex as IV vitamin supplement T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but certainly not over-the-counter T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never heard of it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: usually given to alcoholics T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: yeah researched - is useful for depression but have to be careful with ppl like me T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anything has to be better than SSRi's T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I can get anything - just need to know what to ask for - and pay .. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: only people with bad diets need them... so the solution is to improve your diet... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then you're not in the UK :-) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'll have to run the guantlet of the NHS health nazi's T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for B17 it is just easier to eat apple seeds T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: was not perhaps refering to over the counter ... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: B17? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, Amygdalin or Laetrile T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: misnomer T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: that's not a vitamin T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCiY1y3uJ3o oh lawd. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er, mischan T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And uh, probably not safe for life T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's wrong T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: well what they shot me up with when I was first commited was magic just I couldn't direct it positevly LOL they had thier hads full - but know I think I can take it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: someone tell me what it is T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: scurvy: "Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen (Chatroulette Version)" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: .. ah. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: a nurse said it was IV vit B T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, clearly nurses don't know what they're talking about /s T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: always someone who lowers the tone T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just don't wanna get the wrong stuff and end up back there T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: probably was IV vitamin B T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: however, I approve of the mockery of modern pop culture T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Pabrinex T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: thats what she (nurse) said T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol tiger.. i thought it was pretty hilarious. someone linked it to me earlier s'all T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I do drink like a fish but it's the only way I sleep T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: get yourself some BTT, Tzad T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: BTT? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: beyond tangy tangerine T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: chem name ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: https://youngevityshopping.com/1942701 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I won't trust "youngevityshopping" until I know how old the person who runs it is T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 70odd T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: huh, okay then T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wouldn't get too excited, just naturally derived nutritional supplements T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: ok that's way cool T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not exactly brain surgery T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I coded MCCP and I got 2 extra QP for using it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: just viewed - nahh I want what I had T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: 420g for the low low price of $48.50 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: was like my mind ticked over just right - I could rev it hard and it just performed T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's called "reassuringly expensive" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i believe apple uses a similar pricing structure T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I almost feel embarassed speaeking after it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: dammit sp? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol also adict me searching ofr the next high - I realise that but seriously if this stuff is around ! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone ever messed with setting up XBMC to use a single database for multiple front ends? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Tiger smartest comment all night T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: banana? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: we can culture jam from here T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: something this MUD needs more - counter culture imo T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: anyone know if cDc is still active ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's cDc? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Dad used to bang on bout em T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: elaborate T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: alanta T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Centers for Disease Control? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: cutl of the dead cow T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... thats what i read ... maybe cuz it was just mentioned in show im watching T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: someone in curse uttered an expletive ?! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't the cdc the federal government nazi institute for spreading infection diseases then taking away all your rights and property when an infection occurs? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: tzad ... really ? isnt that why it exists T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I've not listened to metal for a while now- going thru changes ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: tigernuts: I think that's doctors without borders. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, i'm sure it can't be as bad as the SPLC T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: an unaccountable NGO that the liberals set up to create and provoke neo-nazi behaviour T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: the woes od demorcacy - LCD lowest common denominator ... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: when I grow up I'm going to vote with each dollar I spend cause that is democracy now T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when you grow up? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't you vote with your dollars right now? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: arested development .. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: sure - right now but I'm not a normal adult .. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why not? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Olympian Rumour Tech: Why is this conversation here? Please move it to an appropriate channel, thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lost my firearms ticket for one T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ja nw T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: debate? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: returning to curse channn as of now please T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why is it so hard to find what I need tonight? Apparently, I'm looking for nmake for Windows 7. I've googled it, went to sites that claimed to have it, absolutely nothing I can even begin to determine if I need it or not. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you dont know if you need it why are you looking for it =o T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli slaps Daloran. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: well, what are you hoping to do with nmake that you can't do with something more universal? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Compile files, since apparently that's the only way that I can find to get what I need. :D T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: etzli: what are you looking for ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: nmake? just download visual c++ express T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Apparently nmake. My ultimate goal is LuaCrypto, since one of my projects is requiring oauth, which is requiring crypto. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: yeah, I have that, Trachx. Apparently didn't come with it. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://superuser.com/questions/146577/where-do-i-find-nmake-for-windows-7 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you require sdk T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So I guess there's a bit of difference between Visual Studio C# and Visual Studio C++. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Can Mushclient handle JSON? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: looks like it can T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not? There's JSON4Lua anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Even if it didn't/couldn't. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there is not much documentation on how to use it in the client, so far my attempts at json:decode yield "attempt to index global 'json' (a nil value)" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: json = require "json" ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you attempt that? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: and we thank you T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scurvy turns beet red, and hides his face in his palm. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: etzli> not quite.... require('json') (without assigning it to anything), then json.decode('') T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: yes decode json T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: data.name T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Huan: In my experience, I've had to set it as json = requre 'json' *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the require part works with or without brackets T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I guess I should of asked Java, javascript.. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I had the displeasure of trying to cook a plugin in lua, and this part is what I already have working T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I have the json decoding working now, all I need to do is learn how to use lua tables T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know of a good offsite backup service? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: which country T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: UK T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: If you liked gal civ or MoO, the new game Endless Space is pretty awesome... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: endless space is interesting but i would rather get a full version game the space stage of spore T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: you mean a more...complex one? i did like the terraforming one T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah i liked the terraforming and eco-management aspect of spore (space stage) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know how to show a count of just active triggers in zmud? ones not in disabled classes or directly disabled by id? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can show all.. but count is for ALL T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Triggers: 2158 Aliases: 444 Variables: 843 Paths: 0 Macros: 56 Class Folders: 494 Mapped Zones: 288 with 31478 rooms. Menus: 6 Tabwords: 80 Status Windows: 6 Directions: 10 Buttons: 28 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 2158.. with like 1900 disabled... wanna show exact # enabled T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Skill/Spell name Sn Prac Bonus Level <-- what is the format of "Bonus"? # or #% or ? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: from learned command T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mine are all blank, no clue what that is T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ditto... future planning here :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, helpfile seems to imply modifiers from eq T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so X withut % if that's it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Dagger 202 91% (+2) 1 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahhh... ()'d T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what helpfile were you looking at Myrkul? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: help learned T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bleh.. i needa find some skill modifying eq :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aylork dirk will do :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's what i used LO T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: there... now i can test :P Dagger 202 100% (+2) 1 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nifty, is that from 'learned'? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hadn't noticed it displayed like that, nice T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no one really wears eq with skill modifiers though :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: doing a recast on fail queue script T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hos on my dick cos ima ninja turtle T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: haha sorry T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so if you're just trying to capture a list of spells, you might want to look at the slist command, ozzy T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: looks ugly.. but seems to work... ^(.*)\s+ (\d+) \s+ (\d+)\% \s+(?:\(|)([+-]?[0-9,]+|)(?:\)|)\s+ (\d+)$ T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: anyone know how to prevent macros from showing up in the command line history? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: opps, in MUSH T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: macro's always will, accelerators on the other hand will not. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: I dont know what an accelerator is T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's a macro defined at the script level. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make an alias, put the macro as the alias, check omit from command history T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: \\\Accelerator('-','aliasIWantHyphenToFire') T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or that. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: oh. cool. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: accelerator is just a macro that isn't limited to the fkeys and alt-letters T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: is the check to omit in the marco GUI, or the alias GUI? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: alias T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: macro is just how you're calling the alias T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ok, thanks alot. (gonna make me one happy girl!) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: technically macros are never in command history T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: F4+shift doesn't show in command history, what it types does T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: no, just the commands they call. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The macro isn't, but the content of the macro is (except in the case you said) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: which I dont need in history, since I can just hit the macro again. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: where in MC do I map key combinations? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which key combinations... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's keypad for the keypad, there's macros for the fkeys and alt-letters T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for anything else, you must do accelerators T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm looking at winkle's spellup script. Says to add "AcceleratorTo("Ctrl+Delete", "DisableSpellup", sendto.execute)". Just curious where T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i have to say mudlet had an advantage here.. when defining a macro, you fist had to enter the ket (or combo) you wanted to define, allowed all keys (and combos) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd really suggest that everyone finger fiendish and go to his site T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That macro calls the alias "DisableSpellup" by having you hit "Crl+delete" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he answers most questions in the wiki on his aard mushclient package site T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i have that bookmarked, thanks for the reminder abe T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: never messed with accellerators before T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: me either daikojun, but i might start. :p T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daikojun: that's a script command...you can either use game -> immediate, or you can use the script prefix (defaults to either \\\ or ///, I forget which) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: /// iirc T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: \\\ T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Guess not T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: according to the spellup help this accelerator isn't mapped but I have to do it. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What you just showed should be enabled. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and I thought I was getting pretty fancy when I put a link too mushclient on my windows toolbar T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and using accelerators (and an easy solution to them) is linked on the Macros FAQ page on Fiendish's wiki T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It calls the alias DisableSpellup T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll check out the wiki. I have his project page favorited T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an amazing resource, including essentially translating a fair bit of "I used to do it in xxx client using yyy" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I might have to take on Lua I guess. Just another language to tuck under my belt T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's actually a very elegant language. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I don't like the syntax personally.. ":" confuses me. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You can use . in place of : in most places. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's how complex my scripting is...I don't think I've ever used : T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Well, I don't think "string".blahblah will work instead of "string":blahblah T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think I once tried that when I was new to it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: "this is a string".stringFunctionfoo works just fine T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat goes, "Hmmmm." T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just tried str:sub(1) and str.sub(1) and only the first one worked T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Other one gave a weird error: [string "Command line"]:1: bad argument #2 to 'sub' (number expected, got no value) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You didn't pass 2 arguments with the ., : passes an object argument T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: "This is a string".sub(1, 4) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But why did it work with one argument with ":"? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It passes the initial string location when you use : instead of . T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: So str:foo(args) is the same thing as string.foo(str, args)? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yup T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: That's what confused me then. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Has anyone gotten Ruby scripting to work in mush? I know it's a bit "out there", but I really love ruby. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ruby scales like trash, though T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I see an option in Game->Configure->Scripting to set the scripting language as Ruby, but it gives a lot of errors if I do that. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, but it can be on rails, man! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bob, don't do that T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: can't stand RoR T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use ruby in plugins T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't set its default to ruby T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ok T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins can use any language without it being the client's default T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ok T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course make sure you have the ruby dll for mush to use T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, won't get very far without the dll :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But why is Ruby not scaling a problem here? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just in general. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't be an issue T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just think Ruby is an extremely elegant language, but if I were to make a huge web application, I'd probably not use it. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: biggest issue is just that you'll have no help from anyone whatsoever :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Abe's got a good point T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I'll cross that bridge when I reach it! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7857 and http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=9629 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i would highly recommend reconsidering T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: reconsidering what? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: bahh had chat scrolled up, was talking about abes point about having no support T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats why i end up going with php on so many projects instead of django(python) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Lately I've completely forgone SSS, and just stick with Javascript/Jquery T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yeah that seems to be a very common pattern emerging T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: js has its limitations though T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: With HTML5/JQ, SSS has pretty much fallen to the wayside T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Very few, as of late, X T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: agreed, you setup web services and write app in js T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What's SSS? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you want to have a system that uses a centralized DB T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: server side scripting T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Server Side Script T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: server side scripting T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: Like php? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so? you just write your services and expose what you need through an api T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: That's still SSS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, X for centralized you're still pretty much stuck with SSS unless you're using a cloud interface. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: not for presentation though T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its not your application T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its a common service bus T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i do all my dev in html5/js and wrap it up with phonegap to make hybrid applications for mobile devices, in that case we can use the Apple cloud for centralized. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: for my work, we're a .NET shop... we use jQuery/HTML5 for frontend, but all the business logic is server-side. It has to be, for security reasons... can't have client-side script exposing anything T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well yeah thats confusing bll with application T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: you cant just expose raw data at application level T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Oh believe me, I know. I make mobile healthcare apps, and we're liable by the FDA if we incorrectly store patient data. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that's still part of your application... a large portion... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no, thats part of your enerprise business layer T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thats not application T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: conceptually your application includes it in its stack T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: but it isn't specific to your application T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Correct, hero T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: abstraction is my friend T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: semantics... the initial argument was that SSS is falling by the wayside... the point is that in order for most applications that rely on a central DB to have any functional value, they require some significant measure of server side scripting T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it really isnt semantics so much as logical organization T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if your application is using a business logic layer, whether it's abstracted or not, it's still a critical portion of your application T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yes but your application isnt part of it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and it should be conceptually independent T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: simple case in point, if i use AWS for an app my app is not part of AWS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does your website work without it? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: aws could be considered part of my app T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yes, yes it does. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: You're considering application as just the UI... that's not an accurate representation... teh view or display layer, perhaps... but the application is the entire suite... from display layer/UI to business logic to data layer T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it doesn't T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no im not considering app as just UI T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your page doesn't work without information T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: im considering app is well architected independent of the business-critical considerations that I would NEVER include in an application T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: then you're making zero sense... if your application requires teh BLL, and the BLL utilizes SSS, you can't say your applciation ahs no need for SSS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: All the data is stored locally in encrypted from in the local storage, it doesn't need anything centralized to run, just to sync T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i dont need someone delinking client-side code and reverse engineering my business logic T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hehe T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a page, cheez T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: that's the app, which is what we're discussing :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't forget to send unecrypted user names and passwords with every call to the server T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, we're discussing web apps T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: im discussing any app T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you branched that off to talk about IOS/droid apps T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus hugs Tigernuts. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the discussion was regarding ABANDONING SSS, and for that, for a very large portion of use cases, it is 100% impossible T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Should I go ahead and unsanitize it too, Tiger? :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xantcha seems to think you have the right idea. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what is SSS, anyway? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: server side scripting T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in any manner which would be considered anything other than irresponsible, at any rate T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's wrong with it? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: what if i use web api, its all compiled... not scripting, expose services, have my app entirely html/js... thats zero SSS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hybrid works great, dumping everything to the client is often a very bad idea if not illegal T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pbbt T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why bother? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: and thats what MS is pushing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well duh T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: lol, no it's not... if you're exposing and consuming services, those are SSS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do you think these companies make money if they don't completely change the way that you do stuff every 10 years? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: not if they are compiled T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the discussion was completely getting rid of SSS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has little to do with actualy improvements T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compiling doesn't change where the data comes from T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: they are loaded linked libraries in memory and a process running on the open port ("web server") will consume requests and return resources. no scripting is happening T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: what does compiling have to do with it? it's still executing on the server side... you don't have javascript adding data to your DB T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I agree with X here, Hero. You still have to get the data, even if it's compiled. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: whether data comes from a db or not, it isn't scripting it's not SSS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, now you're trying to claim that server apps are not scripting because they're compiled? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no, I'm just saying that I don't have to script my server-side processing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: but yeah basically if I write pure C code and compile it, where's the script? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your server-side processing is SSS, regardles of whether you consider it to be scripting or not T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no interpreted code T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You pat A Piece Of Herodotus on his head. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: lol, that's rich... if it's executing code on the server, it's still SSS... the discussion was about completely client-side applications... where the ONLY server contribution is the HTTP requests for html/js/css/images T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its not runtime T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nice try T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: abe you should know what im saying T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I know what you're saying...and I know that you're wrong T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's a seriously dodgy aspersion, herodotus T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: how so? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well like he said, whether it is compiled or not is irrelevent T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's on the server, being run by the server, it's SSS T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: regardless of the state of compilation T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no it isnt, its not scripting if its not interpreted T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods. SSS means some processing of any kind done on the server, whether it's interpreted or compiled. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're trying to loophole your way in, and plenty of scripting languages compile T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I write .NET pages that execute code on HTTP posts from the client, I compile this application to a site on my server with .dll files... so when my page posts, you're telling me no SSS is taking place? that's just dense T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no its just operationalizing the term SSS or scripting differently T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so we really agree T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: except for the definition of "script" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compiling scripting is done all the time for optimization T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't magically make it not scripting T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: wow do you really know what compiling is? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: im talking about native code T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes herod, I do T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's minifying, Abe T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: versus interpreted T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apparently you do not T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus pats Abelard on his head. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hahaha fail T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus pats himself on the head. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can take the same code, in the same language, well-recognized as a scripting language, and compile it with no change to the script T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: give me an example abe T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it didn't suddenly change from being a script T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yes it did T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it didn't...you just pretended that it did T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: its no longer going to be interpreted line by line procedurally T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: it is now native code T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: that is not even close to the same thing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh really? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: yes, really. otherwise, you aren't talking about compilation T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: smile T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: we're all learning here T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so computers are unable to do procedural stuff...interesting to know T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i dont know how you're going to stretch that T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you're obviously just trolling now... if the server is executing code on a request to affect the response, it's SSS... the term SSS does not in itself imply non-compiled code... even baseline "server side script" is still compiled before it's executed... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: im saying you arent going line by line T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: wow go read about compilation, linking, interpreted code, runtime versus compile time, and come back to me T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess I've been scripting in C for years T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lets just write some web services and benchmark them against each other ;) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I know a lot about compilation, linking and interpreted code... i do this for a living... I've written code in plenty of different languages and servers T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well lol thats not encouraging T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: is this contest open for betting? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It seems like most of us actually caring about the conversation do that, X. We just all have different conotations to the terms :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i'll take any money anyone wants to throw lol T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compiled vs interpreted is a general classification for languages, it is not the final determination for whether something is or is not a script...you can compile lua, you can interpret C T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you know anything about how a web server works, you'd know that even in something like Visual Basic, which is a very obvious script language, is compiled into instruction code when it's first executed, and that compiled binary doesn't change until its source file is modified... no half-decent server reads every script file line-for-line on every request T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You can compile javascript too :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: no abe, compiled code is not in "a language" it's native code T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Chaz Bono Cheezburger. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all code is in a language T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that's not true either T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: ok its in machine language T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: not C T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: not whatever it came from T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Hell, technically what I do is compiling the HTML and JS into native iOS and Android code. Therefore the javascript becomes a compiled language :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: compiled binaries are still in a language... machine code or MSIL depending on the implementation T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: right well you're beligerently missing the point T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: which aint going to affect my web services T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so feel free :) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, so we go from attempting to be so precise in definitions of scripts, to not even caring to call a language a language T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Welcome to tech debates :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you had no valid point to miss, herod T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: "I'm right", "No i'm right", "we're both right", "I don't want to play anymore" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: welcome to most debates, tech or otherwise. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Beliigrera laughs out loud at Chaz Bono Cheezburger. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: no, you're going on some evangelist rant about how compiled code isn't a script, when the original discussion was whether any server-side code was necessary for a web application, vs completely HTML/javascript applications that utilize no server resources T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: i think you're the only person here who has some delusional idea that the term "server side script" is suddenly not applicable if you compile the code on the server... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I stand corrected about the wayside comment in regards to centralized data. In the case of non-centralized there isn't much JS can't do that you'd need a SSS for T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: compiled or not, it's the same code T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: JIT compilers are suddenly magic, brah T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Can we agree that that's a more accurate statement? :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: JIT compilers apparently make my web applications script-less! :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: aardwolf mushclient plugins aren't code then either T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because I package LuaJIT instead of Lua T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: or tt++ or tf. All mud clients run on magic :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'll have to tell my boss, I've magically made an application that uses no server-side script resources! He'll be amazed... usually our servers use processor cycles to execute scripts... without the scripts we'll save money on server resources T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you're just lucky you have a boss that would understand that conversation at all, let alone be amazed. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Amen. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: well, my boss is the CTO... he'd understand... HIS boss wouldn't T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: My boss would be like "And in my words, that means...?" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: my CEO would be boggled T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i dont disagree with you technically, i just dislike your use of certain words T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I am the CTO, my boss is the CEO :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you can do that, then why would they need an IT guy? You could save the company money by taking on more work. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i have more than enough work lol T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm going to change my resume to say Server Side Magician T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i got them to put lead ninja on my doorplate and cards :) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Trisha hands Cheezburger the magic wand. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: i think the tech team and rest of the company diverge in certain... cultural aspects T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: "Fluent in the alchemic art of converting HTTP requests to responses" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: transmogrifying T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye giggles at Xantcha's actions. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I prefer the title of Programmable Interface Management Personnel T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: gcc is a philosopher's stone! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: We can't use that, X. It's made of people! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: gcc is not people! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It was a fullmetal alchemist reference :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: We cant use GNU its made of users! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: GNU IS NOT USERS! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Piece Of Herodotus apologizes profusely. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: T:0 Trpl: 1.34 QT:14 ..... T:0 Dbl: 0.29 QT:13 <--- the decimal is daily bonus in prompt :) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: when using capture from CMUD, is there a way to delete out certain content from the line? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: #gag? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or replace T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #sub if you wish to show the results. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or that. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's also #PSUB to work with just the captured part of the pattern. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I have a trigger to line "1 2 3 4" and a #SUB that takes out "1 2 " It takes it out of main window, but not the capture window T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: #sub before you log it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: #sub returns a part of it, doesn't modify the actual variable T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: so you just log the #sub to the window, instead of logging the actual variable T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Is #window still a valid command in cmud? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Could do something with that, too T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: very much so T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's also a more powerful version called #MAKEWINDOW T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: hmm. in the trigger i have #SUB then #CAP and it still displays the whole line... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Syntax: #WIN name string - Display text in another window named name. If the window doesn't exist, it is created. If a text string is specified, it is displayed in the window. <-- Is there a better way to do it then this? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: could i do #win name %replace(text,string) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think so vel.. thats what i was thinking T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Makewindow looks nice, but doesn't seem applicible if im reading the helpfile correctly T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #MAKEWINDOW does everything that #WINDOW does plus all the extra stuff. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: hrmm.... #WINDOW loses the color from the original mud, there #cap didn't... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hans: #makewindow doesn't seem to take an argument of a string to pass to the new window T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so i think you'd have to use makewindow to create the window, then #window to send text to it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #makew is to make, #win it to write to an already made window T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: they both will create windows T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or you can use win:commands or shows T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or :win:command/shows T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: huh, so it does. can also use the #MXP with the DEST tag. If you need to also create or modify the window, can couple that with the FRAME tag. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: frame tag.. must be talking cmud? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's MXP, but yes. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nah, it was available in zMUD, too, I think. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud doesnt have it afaik T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still using zmud here :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it does, Ozzy. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Using windows 3.1 telnet. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Using DOS. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it does? hrm... never used it,,, didn't know it was thre :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can see what's implemented for MXP tags by either sifting through the nonsense on the System tab of MXP properties, or go to the Zmud support page and clicking on the MXP specification article there. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wow, neat.. used to using makewindow though T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod.. was just looking at http://www.zuggsoft.com/zmud/mxp.htm#Frames T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: frame looks the same as makewindow,,, prolly why i never bothered :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It is, more or less. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use makewindow for my help window, though. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: any advantage to frame? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in ZMud, perhaps it's far less buggy than #MAKEWINDOW was. Dunno. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #MAKEWINDOW was never really fixed until CMud version 2 or 3. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use makewin on all,,, #MAKEWINDOW Global open "floating=yes|align=top|persistant" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and unless im just used to the bugs, i dont notice any T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i bought cmud 2, and my timer is almost out on 3 with a lot of errors on import still... so i wait for cmud 4 :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the big benefit of using DEST is that you don't get the explicit cr at the end of what you send via #WINDOW, even if you use #WINDOW. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i dont use #WIN at all T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: either windowname: or :windowname: T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: multiple .mud files? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i do a lot of subbing or mxp in each window T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my biggest headache in converting to cmud is my theme script... cmud dont like me doing #show {~@@them_color1_mud~text} ... it wants %char(64)@theme_color1_mud T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i use that in every script that outputs to a channel T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't @{them_color1_mud}text work? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: works in both using %char(64) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so slowly converting to that everwhere in hopes of getting all else working in cmud :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's just one of my "issues" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I meant in CMud. In ZMud, I think you would have done something like @{@varname}rest_of_varname T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the game breaker this time was double quotes in perl and vbscript T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ~@@var works in zmud, where var = mud color letter T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what did you try, other than tilde-" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud? nothing it works, in cmud changing the 1st ~@ to %char(64) workes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just gotta change it on like 1000 places :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the game breaker this time is when i got to converting all my perl and vbscript stuff.. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://forums.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37830 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mainly for stuff i cannot do in zscript... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to aardwolf.org Min: 62 Avg: 62 Max: 63 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that was... ping aardwolf.org tech T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you tried """ instead of ~" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: triple? that would not pass the %1 would it? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lemme reconnect.. ill try... brb T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 19 days left.. whoo hoo :P changing now T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it worked? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dunno.. editing now T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope... vbscript doesnt error... but does nothing at all T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even added triple around... ss.ProcessCommand("""ping_results %1 echo""") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: returns: ping_results echo .... Sorry Ozzy, you can't do that. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: returns: ping_results %1 echo .... Sorry Ozzy, you can't do that. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and ping_results is a valid alias T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ss.ProcessCommand("#VAR ping_result " & Result & " ") in zmud it = 4 ... is 0 on success T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ultimately, you need to end up at ss.ProcessCommand("ping_results stuff echo"), right? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 4 = unknown site given to DSPing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: stuff is channel... if %1 is empty... it goes to echo T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: my guess is that the ~" is being preparsed down to just " and then when it's all sent to the script the " is getting stripped out too. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i added echo cause i cant get %1 to pass :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: note.. if i change Result = Ping. DoPing("%1") to Result = Ping. DoPing("www.google.com") the script works to fill cmud vars T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if Result = Ping. DoPing('') vbscript parser pukes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if Result = Ping. DoPing('%1') vbscript parser pukes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needs double T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's something to try, I'm coloring it for clarity: """"ping_results "%1""" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in the other... #MSS {MinDiff = DateDiff("n",~"@t1~",~"@t2~")} i was able to fix with: #CALL %vartype(t1,3) & #CALL %vartype(t2,3) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i gotta fix Result = Ping. DoPing("%1") 1st, or i have no script :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: have to pass %1 to the vbscript T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the is not in quotes in my example. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the %1 is not in quotes in my example. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://i.imgur.com/uFsRL.png T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same for no or single quote T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the red and yellow quotes make sure the " is sent literally, the green ones are for literalizing the ping_results command and space between it and %1, and %1 should be getting expanded normally. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you "fixed" a line at the end of script... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i need Result = Ping.DoPing("%1") working 1st at the beginning :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone have a working rearm-after-disarm script? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: same idea. """%1""" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: """%1""" in Result = Ping.DoPing("""%1""") does nothing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no error, no vars filled, just nothing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hmm, guess I'll play some more. I assume I'll have to go get dsping.dll or something? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just after DSPing.dll does it's stuff... ss.ProcessCommand("#VAR ping_minimum " & Ping.Minimum & " ") is filled if Result = Ping.DoPing("www.google.com") is used T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pinmg.doping NEEDs the double quotes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this ping script is just my easiest example T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i have piles that i need to pas vars from/to T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even tried myVar = ss.GetVar("var", "class") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same for myVar.Value = "%1" ... pukes with single or no quotes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and nada with triple T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: and if you assign it a var and call the variable instead of the wildcard reference? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hmm, erroring out on the very first line of your script...does the vbscript stuff come with Win7 or do I have to download that separately now? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if i assign google.com to myVar... i can reference myVar in the script... if that's what your asking?? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: if you have office you can use their vba compiler T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dunno... on XP still :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: no, ping the address from a variable Ping(@variableName) instead of Ping("%!") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in cmud it is STILL... Set cc = CreateObject("Zmud.Application") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont change to cmud :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: awe liaaa <3 it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mis. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Can you not use %comcreate in CMUD? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lemme make a google var and see.... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Instead of using vbscript? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any interesting ideas of stuff to do with an Xbox 360 other then game/netflixstuff? I know the original you could run xbmc/linux/etc.. but i don't think theres much of that stuff for the 360 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zefoj Heafmo Tech: there's a way T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope.. ping_average/min/max still set as 0(manually set earlier) with Result = Ping.DoPing("@google") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pukes with no or single quotes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I must not have the vbscript runtime or something. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Headmo: you reing me? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: er, heafmo T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Dal.. is yours an older one? pre epoxy on chip? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: uhhhhh Not sure. It was one of the first batches that came with the HDMI on board T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in XP vbscipt just works, i had to install perlscript though Hans T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: actually Daloran, just looked (been a long time).. there are alternate pinouts found for the SST chip... so modding is still possible T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not to the extent of the good ol original T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i still use originals as mythtv frontends :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahh if i was going to track down xboxs for that i'd just use atom systems, or some of the new android stuff..raspberrypi or something T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i've just had this 360 sitting here for .. i dunno. maybe 2 years now since i've played it. and its boxed up... just trying to see if theres anything interesting to do with it since i know i wont get much trying to sell/trade it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: apparently with kernel 4532 you can linux your 360 after flasing the drive T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Something's not right...I have vbscript.dll but with just the set command for the zmud.application object I'm getting a vbscript compile error. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: try this in an alias... #MSS {MinDiff = DateDiff("n",~"@t1~",~"@t2~")};min_uptime = T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: t1 and t2 need to be.... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I guess modding it isn't much benefit.. short of piracy won't do anything a slim pc or similar wouldn't do T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 8/01/2012 12:10:53 and like 8/12/2012 21:26:22 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud, I can select vbscript as the script type. Do I also need to surround the vbscript code in #MSS? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #MSS is zscript T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might need to add #CALL literal;#CALL literal T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might need to add #CALL %vartype(t1,3);#CALL %vartype(t2,3) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: to the beginning of previous alias T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: dang ... so much tech T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should fill min_uptime T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'm doing a simple test function of vbscript type, with the following line in it: Set cc = CreateObject("Zmud.Application") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that just gives me an error box that helpfully says Syntax Error (Microsoft VBscript compilation error) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: add a 2nd line... Set ss = cc.CurrentSession T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not getting past the first. The second line's not going to do a thing. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: vbscript is there if getting a compile error T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the error is the script doesnt compile T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: try adding the 2nd line T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the runtime compiler aint getting finished compiling.. so it pukes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needs at min the 2nd liine T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: might even need somethig like: myVar = "test" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or Set myVar = "test" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wierd.. doesn't puke with just Set cc = CreateObject("Zmud.Application") for me... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and if VBScript wasnt there, cmud wouldnt list it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: made a testit alias... http://i.imgur.com/bOpN2.png, esult contains "test" after running T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm @Result = test T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bleh ... @ping_result = test T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's the most simple script i can use to see VBScript affect cmud T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: make it work with Result = "%1" and im golden :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: testit blah T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: testit blah;#show @ping_result ---> %null T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, the simplest thing to do would be to create an alias called testvb, have it echo %1, then create another alias of vbtest with Set cc = CreateObject("Cmud.Application");Set ss = cc.CurrentSession;ss.ProcessCommand("testvb %1") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's what I'm doing, anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Set cc = CreateObject("Cmud.Application") is incorerect in cmud... Set cc = CreateObject("Zmud.Application") is needed T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: proof Cmud is still Zmud :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you're wrong because it works as CMUD. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because I've been doing that this entire time. :D T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: kust going my Zugg's own documentation :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just* T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Zmud works, I suppose, but you can use Cmud.Application. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i could do lot's of "undocumented" stuff in zmud... and now a lot is broke because of it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so i try to follow his docs now :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I didn't check earlier for the answer, but does anyone have a disarm/rearm script that works? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: maybe as simple as a trigger? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for? cmud/zmud i do, but it uses all my serial numbers :( T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: mc here T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That would be a good excercise for learning how to create a trigger. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I hae some text trigger so far T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just highlighting really T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: would a simple trigger do it? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just looks for * DISARMS you T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... ^(.*) DISARMS you and sends your (.*) flying!$ --> wield weapon_name T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but you'd have to set weapon name each time you switch weapons T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: 'hold all' would probably suffice as it would be the first weapon in your inventory. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: understandable T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that too T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: its an aard weapon so it won't drop T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if I make a vbscript alias, I get a different error. Object doesn't support this property/method: cmud. It's a runtime error, though, so I'm not sure where it's at. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so... ^(.*) DISARMS you --> wield weapon_name T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or ... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so... ^(.*) DISARMS you --> hold all T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: always ancho triggers T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anchor even T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: disarming doesn't take the dual item does it? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so Ozzy DISARMS you wont trigger it :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont remember, always have bracers on T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ooh, very interesting. It appears my test alias simply isn't even being executed now. Just the word "test" sent directly to the screen. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm Hans T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's the proper way to retrieve a variable in COM scripting from CMUD? I thought it was GetVar, but that doesn't seem to work. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the compile tab's not going to show anything in a non-zscript setting, correct? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: simplest script thus far... Set cc = CreateObject("Zmud.Application") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ss.ProcessCommand("echo %1") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: make it echo %1 :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only thing i can echo is %null T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think my vbscript's broke or something. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cmud 3? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cause 2 was even more screwy :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: luckally Zugg finally just gave me a license :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: so your purpose is to make scripts for it and come up with workabouts for all his new bugs? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just like you have to work around Fiendish and Nick. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: apparently that was his plan... i just went back to using zmud :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you have to what? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mush mapper has grown leaps and bounds... but zugg still has it beat in that area T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even simple stuff like moving a room to display on a different z axis T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: they serve different purposes T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I determined that what you just said does not in fact help 99% of players T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i just like seeing a whole area on one level T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but really, a lot of the problem is that zmud users were impatient enough to figure out amazingly fancy workarounds for stuff ZMud wasn't even designed to handle (zmud wasn't designed for multiple levels of nested properties, like var.key.key, for example, but you could still manage it) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for click to run T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: is it possible to make an iframe that scrolls with the main page in a website T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Mars: yes with javascript anything is possible T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use var.key.key ALL the time :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and because of all that work, ZMud users tended to think they knew how stuff was done and didn't really bother learning the proper way to do stuff. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I thought so fiendish, but wasn't sure. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the proper way, eh T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in ZMud? No you didn't, because ZMud wouldn't even process that. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: now I just have to figure out how to do it. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yes it will T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: var = ((1|2|3)|4) ... and access parts with var.key.key T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's a stringlist. Stringlists don't have keys. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: var.key is a reference to datarecords. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: var.1.2 T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try it with a datarecord. Like clan.boot.leader. :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wouldnt need to for that, a stirnglist would work T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyhoo... if cmud can't do ss.ProcessCommand("echo %1") it's worthless to me :P T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: reconnecting with zmud :) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ozzy, you said to anchor a trigger. What does that mean? Where should I Send the "Send"? World? Script? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if you use regex... put a ^ at the beginning of the trigger T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it "anchors" it to match only at the beginning of a line T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: oh ok, I did that. Where should the Send go? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so Ozzy DISARMS you wont match it... as Ozzy aint at the beginning here... Ozzy Tech: is T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: to world i think... i dont know much about mush T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: world means to the mud directly without processing T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: to script means to the script processing engine T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so to world then Daikojun :) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: execute means as if you had typed in on the command line T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: as it is just a mud command.. hold all T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: (so aliases get done) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmmm... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.. so if hold were a mush alias.. execute? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: So Fiendish, is a trigger the simplest way to rearm yourself? Send it to Execute? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: world if your sending "hold all" T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imo, anything you would send to world could probably also be sent to execute safely T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, I'll test it. Thanks guys T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Unless you intentionally had an alias that overwrote a mud command, and then needed the mud command :) T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: to world sounds like the safer choice so some script(alias) you write later doesnt interfre T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ooo, it worked! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks guys T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud youd just send ~hold all ... that'd bypass any "hold" alias T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Ozzy, looks like vbscript might be broked in CMud (possibly just me). Got any basic scripts that don't require dlls I don't got? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that one i posted ealier.... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ss.ProcessCommand("echo %1") T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easy as it gets T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so don't use vbscript? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, was gonna see what I could help him with translating to see how far I could get. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: show me a funtion to do mindiff in zscript? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: use lua T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint learning a new scripting language just to use cmud :p T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all my stuff is either PerlScript or VBScript T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ew T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, apparently CMud.Application doesn't work as Etz referred to earlier. Gave me some sort of error about class strings. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: <3 lua T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod.. i can only get mileage from zmud.application T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: so my macbook electrocutes me when i touch it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so don't touch it T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Lick it and sue. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Electroshock therapy to cure porn addiction? T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: well i dont think ive watched porn on it... so prolly not T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't cure porn addiction, cures depression. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: thanks fiendish! T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Porn curse depression T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: really? I should probably keep up with that thend T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they don't really know if there are any bad side effects, but it really helps with depression enough they're giving the green light to the treatment. T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: hehe...just remembered the electroshock episode of the Simpsons.... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ping to google.com : Min: 24ms Avg: 38ms Max: 56ms T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just saying... T3/r7/2012-08-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there a way to write out multiple lines of vbscript syntax all on one line? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: how do u add room number to winkle's search & destroy for CP? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: afaik winkle's s&d uses mapper database ... so what you gotta do is map it out manually first T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ie run through the room T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: i got to the room, but i just wanna save it on the database... ... maybe i gotta check out the help file again T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: did s&d provide multiple hit on room name that mob may bein ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: nope. just wanna add T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: so is there a command to add the room? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Go to it - map the room, and it should be added T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: unless the room is in or beyond a maze s&d should be able to take you there via the mapper T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Natively, it's actually not that good - need to program in keys, doors, floor portals, cexits T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah there is that ... doors and cexits have to be built in T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: this one needs a manual portal after killing mob. but i can get it it on second phase T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: you know how to enter cexits into mapper ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: hmm.. i guess i'll read up on TO CREATE A CEXIT thingy T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: what zone are you dealing with T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: type mapper help ... mapper cexit (custom exit text) to enter cexit T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: strange, i can't use "mapper unexplored here" T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: where at ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: try mapper unmapped T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: i'm at the meat locker in mountains of desolation. just trying to add a path T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: i hope i'm doing this correctly T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: paths are calculated automatically by rooms and exits that the mapper knows about. all you need to do is manually add non-standard exits, or ones that involve opening doors T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: just trying to add a normal room, but i still can't, maybe i'm using wrong syntax T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: if it is required to kill a mob along the path (such as a mob that activates room portal) s&d wont be able to use the mapper to go there T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: do i have to kill the mob first? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the mapper calculates the entire set of movements it takes to get anywhere and sends them all at once. there is no "kill this mob, wait until you win and get the key, then continue" command, so if an exit is complex and requires steps like that to progress, the mapper cannot be taught to do it T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Sure it can. mapper cexit kill mob;wait(5);open east;east T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or however long you want it to wait. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: mind blown, I didn't know there was a wait command T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: still, automatic movers and mob killers are no-nos T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah ... however if a path to target is available that otherwise has obstacles in it (including mobs that aggro along the way) all you need to do is type mapper resume to continue the run to target T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not that you should be having something else kill for you. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: are speedwalkers not considered automatic movers ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: automatic movers are ok. Killers not. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i get that :/ ... also i think trying to automate killing (especially with wait command) isnt suggested T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: how do i add a room to the list of "mapper unmapped here"? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: mapper unmapped just shows the exits that the mapper knows about, but you haven't walked through. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: i.e. basically you've been one room away from that room T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah ... indicating unmapped exits not custom exits T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: grr .. i got trouble understanding the text i suppose >_< T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I think you misunderstand the purpose of unmapper. The mapper does not know about every room in the area, it only knows about the ones you have visited, and can see the exits leading from them. Mapper unmapper lists all of the obvious exits that you haven't followed T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: When you walk into the room, the mud sends you (via gmcp) info about that room. The mapper gets this info and updates the database. You don't have to do anything as far as that is concerned. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: sorry I kept typing unmapper, I mean unmapped T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: i just want to add a room to a possible list of the area T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You don't have to "add" rooms. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: hmmm T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: when you know about an exit that the mapper hasn't detected, use mapper cexit to create a custom one. It will follow your command to discover the new room and add that automatically if it works T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you walk into a room that has 6 exits, the mud sends this info to you. The mapper updates the database with that room, and records that it has 6 exits. If you've only ever walked through one of them, then 5 of the exits will be "unmapped". Typing 'mapper unmapped' simply displays a list of these exits that you haven't walked through. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you walk through it, it'll no longer be unmapped. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: hmm.. i wanted to create an 'alias' to click on to go directlyto the room T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They already exist. Type 'mapper help' for the list. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: eg. if I type 'mapper find wizard', it lists all the rooms that you've mapped so far that contain the word "wizard". I can click on one to go to it. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: for real? hmm T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there anyway to mark multiple entrances to a zone ? such as 1 entrance from a portal and another for runto ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud i set the entrance shortname to area keyword, and then set portal and alias to the same... but your prolly asking about mush :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I use mapper for the portals T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: anyone play Endless Space? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i have a windows 7 laptop that doesn't automatically reconnect to my network when it wakes up from sleep mode... any ideas what would cause that? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: wireless network ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is the 'connect automatically' selected ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: except it seems that it only connects automatically when you boot it, not wake it up from sleep mode T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hmm ... mine takes a couple secs to connect but it does it even when waking up T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is your wireless adapter set to poweroff to save power ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: where would you set that? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sec T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: device manager -> your network adapter -> power management tab -> box labeled 'allow the computer to turn off device to save power' T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nope, unchecked T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: can i add levitation to my spellup list? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: how? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: bsp help T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what script are you using? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Same way you add other spells, I imagine. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botontop Tech: im on my phone. android. blow torch i think T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're just using the in-aard spellup command, then as long as levitation is practiced and not in your forgetskills list, it should work T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: select col1 & col2 from blah... howto select 2 colums only? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mysql T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: select colA,colB from tablename ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nm.. `col1` AND `col2` worked.. ill try comma next time, thakns T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that's odd, Id's think AND would do a boolean op T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: erm, I'd think T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nm.. no data.. comma worked .. thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: whats a good page to get the latest MUSH? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: finger fiendish T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Anyone familiar with the Bast script packages. Wondering if I should leave them in the Bast folder in plugins, and pull out the ones I want, or unload them all? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: leave all of them in the bast folder, add/enable them from there, don't move them T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Thanks. I added Bast spellups, but the window didnt pop up. Am I missing something or is there a command to pop it up? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the window is a separate plugin from the spellup module itself T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: it just respells T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: see if you have spellup in properly, try "bsp help" T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: he says drop the entire folder in there then load the ones you want, but dont delete anything T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: bast's stuff annoys me when it comes to setting it all up, install the ones you want, then close then reopen the client. that should get htem all showing. :p T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Thanks, the help menu popped up. Ill keep at it. Making a new client is a pita :) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://screen.yahoo.com/drive-thru-emergency-30260618.html?pb_list=f98d7405-694c-44f4-99c7-e6d7f1032375 T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Another Bast Package question, which is the plugin I should add to get the Mini window with quest timer, etc.. in it? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: either the individual quest wwindow, or the general Events window T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Events window, will do them all with 1 plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what's the command for locking miniwindows? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Anyone else experienced problems with the Aardwolf version of Blowtorch on Android ICS? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what on the mud sends 80 equal signs? possibly something todo with ident/eq T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: old trigger, disables a class... forgot what triggered it :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: notes used to use equals before they used tildes, iirc... T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanali Celanil. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.. that explains why that wasn't getting disabled then... thanks T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli still lobbies for {note}{/note} tags. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat noddles his head in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... what's the regex to match that in zmud/cmud ... ~ is an escape char :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: double ~ T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so escape the tilde :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ~~, or just ~ in regex, that's not a special character T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so 160 ~'s? heh? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in ZMud, I believe you can do [~] rather than 160 (alternatively just set the trigger to verbatim and use 80 of them.) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or [~~] T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That way, it'll catch all. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bah, forgot the anti parser character. I was suggesting what Etz did. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanslanda. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: there's a way to specify length, iirc, like ~{80} in regex T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanali Celanil. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: don't remember what it is though, never used it a zscript pattern T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's what it is. :p T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so with regex.. ^~{80}$ ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so with regex.. ^~~{80}$ ? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: [~~]? don't you need to put 80 in there somewhere? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: With regex, just ^~{80}$ T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: no, just one tilde in regex T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in zscript pattern, you can specify length or you can specify type-of-character but not both. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thus im asking regex :) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [~~] just says to match all tildes. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ah T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Rather, any number of tildes. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like anchoring both ends when possible to an exact # T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, there's only 79. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ^~{79}$ aint firing on show T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.. needed ^~~{79} T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: are you showing the right number of tildes? :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod... copied.. pasted in a show twice T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: hmm, you shouldn't in regex T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Were you in regex or still using zscript? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you were in regex, you only needed one tilde. zscript needed 2. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud, checked regex box T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: ~~{79} in regex should match 80 tildes, i bet your show had the wrong number T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: double tildes matched T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ^~~{79}$ worked, thanks all T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: unless zmud is pre-processing it somehow T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's more likely that ZMud is full of bugs of this sort. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Zugg products? Bugs? Surely you jest. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh well if bug.. easy workaround T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: main part is it works T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: 3.34 CMud is stable comparable to the latest build of Mush. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's funny is in CMUD, in order to do that regex properly, I have to use the GUI, otherwise the command line thinks I'm trying to escape the { in {79}. Then I end up with a regex pattern of ^~~{79}$, which doesn't work. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: vbscript issues here in cmud 3 T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: stable, sure, but i'd say it's buggier T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ping to google.com Min: 37ms Avg: 54ms Max: 81ms T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm able to make that work in CMUD, so I'm happy. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: could probably piece it together as string and execute it, etzli T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Only because it opened up more ideas for me. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i dont care to learn lua Etzli :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: most of the "bugginess" users see comes from the fact that they don't believe they're working with bad data and because of this belief they tend not to try fixing it. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ozzy: What's funny is the Lua program I used only has... 6 lines of input. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, lua code. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok Etzli, take that idea, apply it to linux command line and you've got tintin++ T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Wanna send an sms from mud command prompt? Sure :) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Already do. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and your point? i KNOW vbscript and perl... aint learning Lua for a mud client only :P T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Ixle on his head. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle snickers with Book of Etzli about their shared secret. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Ozzy about their shared secret. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like both mush and tintin, with the exception of their mappers T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I already save all notes via email, Ixle. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Yeah I remember you telling me that now :) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli throws back his head and cackles with insane glee! T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I also got CMUD to be able to tweet statuses now. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ozzy, can't deny the tintin++ mapper doesn't impress visually. It sure does get me places fast though. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: note2email was fairly easy for me in Perl T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: email, rss feeds, tweets, basically anything on the Internet that doesn't depend on fancy graphics can be routed through CMud. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanslanda. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Score: DAL: 3 OAK: 0 (07:53 3rd quarter) OAK has possession of the ball. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Like that, for instance. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i love the bit on mush you can click a room in an area to goto... but take someplace like dread tower, in zmud all rooms are on z:0 in my zmud map T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can even get gadget-stuff like weather. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: Schenectady, NY: Scattered Clouds Temp: 74 F (23.3 C) Humidity: 70%. Wind: WSW at 3mph. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Like that? ;) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, yes, I sometimes forget you legally changed your name. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli has been datamining through CMUD for a couple years now, it seems. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: at least 3 if you count what Charneus did, I think. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've lost track of time. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, we gave it to Fiendish for testing purposes. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: who gave what? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The only thing I wish I could do in CMUD that I may not ever be able to do is create miniwindows using Lua code. There's LuaInterface, but the dll needs to be registered with the application, I think. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone done this in mush or cmud? http://i.imgur.com/QF1ro.png T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: cmud is stable compared to mushclient? that's a peculiar notion. Perhaps that is computer dependent, but I've never had mushclient crash on me. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ozzy: I can't imagine wanting to. blackjack is a money hole. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Not bad, though, not bad. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: everything in that script is doable in CMud, but I dunno if anyone took the time to CMudify such. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint been for me... http://i.imgur.com/3JUqY.png T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Lifetime: 1283000 T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Ozzy: I wrote tetris for mushclient with soundtrack if you want to play a game T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i saw that.. cool stuff T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can also do that in CMud, just have to work around the graphics is all. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Damn it, now I'm itching to write that code. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: fiendish how hard would it be to get a plugin that captures auc output and has display of items that go up in real time T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hard for whom? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not hard at all T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Trigger function "spellheaders_redirect" not found or had a previous error. Anyone have a clue what might be causing this. Its spamming full speed. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: my standard answer for "how hard would it be" is "if you're asking me how hard something is then it would be easy for me and hard for you." T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sounds like your spellup bot. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Ol' Dirty Fiendish about their shared secret. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: probably :) ... not that familiar with the coding inside mush T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Using Bast Spellups. Its odd, works fine on my main character. When I use it on this alt.. same client copied.. I get this error. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: absomax: reload the plugin, I guess. *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: spammy as hell, though, if you want the item details (no particular guarantee an item is stock or not, so you couldn't really fake it by using a database) T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Thanks, gonna give it a go. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Nod, its the Xbroadcast Skill/Spells. Stopped when I disabled, began again when I enabled. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Anyone recomend a different spellup script, other than basts? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: bast's works great for me T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I hear winklewinkle has one T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: never tried winkles. Basts works fine when I use it on my mains client.. for some reason it bugs on this one though. Tried disable, enable, restarting the client multiple times.. keep getting the error. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you need to bsp refresh T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it probably thinks you have spells from another character T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Ahh Ill try it, thanks again Fiendish. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Didnt do the trick, tried using the bsp debug also. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Like it misses all the spell tags. Is there a tags toggle maybe I dont have on my alt? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: tags spells on? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: does it use tags? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or whatever it is. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: spellups. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: i assume it turns them on when you connect T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Type tags for the options. *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: The one that is bugging, says the purpose is to broadcast spell tags. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Spellup tags are on T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: winkle's spellup : how can i manually add subclass spell / T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Edit the spellup.lua file;. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh wait, that's what I converted it to. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why does cmud sometimes fail to recognize that it has been disconnected? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's hard to know that sort of thing T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you try to call someone on the phone and they don't answer you, do you assume the person is dead? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Hmm.. I'm not understanding how Aard can possibly be single-threaded but multiple players can perform actions at the same time. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ... the hell? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not exactly the same time T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: they don't perform actions at the same time T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Does it loop through all the requests in a stack or something like that? T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: they perform actions microseconds apart T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Bob, they don't happen at the same time T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: it's an enormous loop T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Starling: I'm just trying to show why it might not know the connection is severed T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: It probably has layers of retrying to keep links active through bad lag T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: the mud continuously loops... every N cycles it checks for any player input to handle... other cycles are used for intermediate events T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: shrug, all I know is I was lagged out for 50 minutes, cmud failed to reconnect or even recognize that it was disconnected. Just wondered why, no need to give stupid answers. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think it was a stupid answer. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It was. T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: we disagree T3/r7/2012-08-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Luckily I'm not terribly troubled by that. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: My Mush does it sometimes, I think it's a symptom of the network connection and how it terminates, not the program T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Here Comes Trouble Tech: lol u said trouble and here I am T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Could anyone help me with a real simple Disarm trigger? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's not difficult to create... I believe the Aardwolf Wiki has the trigger message for it under "General" and "Mud Messages" T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I checked and it has a guy that wrote a script to make it run and it looked like this guy overcomplicated it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Could I do something real simple like trigger = DISAMRS and send is just Wear Dirk T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: would that work? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sure, but you'd get false positives T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Thats how mine worked, on trigger it would wield axe, wield dag. I only use axes and daggers.. so 1 would work always. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: for example, when i say DISARMS here, your trigger would fire T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: and it doesnt T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Thats no good that it didnt fire, haha T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: how often do you get disarmed.. i cant remeber my last time T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're using mush, you'd need to use *DISARMS* T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I've lost probably about 7-8 weapons in the last day T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: gruagach, you probably wear aard bracers :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: heh o T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon! put a * before it. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: TY Doink I'll make that my trigger T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: its gets complicated if you use alot of random weapons.. over my head at least. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: and do a get %1 or something if it isn't aard eq T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why not just use the one by the guy that overcomplicated it? :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there is also a message that happens when they disarm you and send your weapon flying T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what you see as overcomplicating it is probably just improving it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh thats a good point, I only used aard weapons when I made that trigger.. so I never dropped the weapon. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: ehhhh I really feel like he didn't accomplish much more in his script T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: aardweaps can be knocked away as well T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: there are like 8 variables for a disarm script, that can't be right T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Didnt know that.. its been a while though. U sure? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: To be honest, im ok with my script firing on just the word DISARMS T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: a while back i made a script that stored weap1 and weap2 as variables and when disarm message was popped would automatically get weap and/or re-equip T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Imalish, the script would search your EQ and store your weapons? or you had to put it in your script? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: doesn't the disarm message contain the weapon name T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: alias 'wield $1 -> wields weapon and stores variable T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: same with offhand $1 T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Ahh, that's pretty baller Imalish T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: since a disarm message gives the long desc of a weapon its hard to use that message for re-arm trigger T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I think I'll just mess around with triggers for a bit till I get this working, thanks for all the input guys :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: the best thing you can do is to have an alias which send value to variable and when you always wield a weapon to send weapon name to variable...that way you have it stored and you can eassy use it in trigger :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: at the moment, im just testing a simple script where the trigger is disarm, and i just want it to send 'say hi how are you' and I can't even get that working yet xD T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I feel like it's gonna be a long night T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: wait, how about just 'get all', 'wear all' T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's possible to get the id of your weapon when you get disarmed with invmon, i think T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you really want to make it perfect T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: will be eassier for a beginer to use a variable :D T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it would be easier for a beginner to just use one of the many plugins that do this already :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I will not become a sheep! T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Going to figure this out T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thats true :D maybe he wants to learn..so he starts step by step :D T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I need to blast a friend at laser tag. I want to be able to macro my keypad to shoot in the cardinal directions. Although I need to be able to set the name of the target as a variable. How simple would this be? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: anyone know of a 3 moon monitor plugin for mush client other than bast's? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 3 moons don't affect enchanting; the data on Twinlobe's site doesn't support it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: specifically, the success rate and rate of high enchants isn't appreciably different when no moons are up, and when all three are up T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, I wouldn't worry about it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: is this data reflected on a per succesful enchant basis, or per enchant basis? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: i've always been under the impression that if you're in the corresponding alignment of the moon, your rate of successful eenchants are higher T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: and out of my 1000 or so sample size I would say im pretty certain at least one moon w/ correct alignment afffects the succesful enchants T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Warlen Tech: whether or not 3 moons amplifies the single alignment would be my concern i suppose T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: how does one read history messages in your personal forum? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: forum personal, note read T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: nope no history T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what do you mean by history notes? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: someone left me a note, I read it and forgot what it was and wanted to read it again T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just what i said T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: might want to read help note T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: note list will give you a list.. also note from will help narrow it down a bit T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: how does one get there Mac client app listed on the aardwolf website? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: someone recently told me that wait(5) is a way to make a speedwalk pause. As 'wait' is not a mud command, and the mapper works by outputting every item directly, is there a wait() plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ok new question. Can someone please confirm or deny that "wait(x)" doesn't work in cexits T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ah it's in a newer version. terrific. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is there a command for bringing miniwindows to the front? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: bmf? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: just kidding T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: would be nice lol T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: any clue if there is a way to exclude mapper from using a portal as a shortcut ? specifically wanting to avoid using the flying citadel portal T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: delete the portal? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: setportal level :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yep, set the portal/door level to like 300 T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i want to be able to use the portal when i want to go to flying citadel T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: exiting north from the top of the tower requires i kill the gargoyles ... too much of a pain to kill them everytime mapper passes me through there T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: make the goal then :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I updated my MC to r1667 and copied over my aardwolf.db file but I don't think my mapper is current. Did I miss a file? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: okay, somebdoy help :P "netsh int ip set address name="Wireless Network Connection" source=dhcp" returns "DHCP is already enabled on this interface." and doesn't change the IP from the static one I've set. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: I see nothing wrong w/that line T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i do, it's obviously not written for unix :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is the IP address within the DHCP range? have you tried an ipconfig /renew? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: I'm setting a static IP address for an ad-hoc network back to DHCP so the wireless can get an IP from an access point :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: not technically changing to an IP since it's supposed to be DHCP T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: none of that changes my questions :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: the IP address i'm changing from static to dhcp? It's not w/in any dhcp range, no.. becaus eit's an adhoc T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: your question didn't make sense T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: also, ipconfig /renew doesn't work because its "media is disconnected" (not connected to the ad-hoc) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: does it have to have a valid IP before it changes back to DHCP? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: being ad hoc doesn't mean anything other than not having an access point, it says nothing about what IP address it has or whether or not it's within any given range... T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: why would I have an adhoc in the same range as the rest of my network -_- T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why not? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: are you going to answer the question or be annoying? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both, duh T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you associated with the AP? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it doens't need to be attached or associated with any AP to be set to DHCP T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not being associated is normally the only reason to get the "media is disconnected" message T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does to get an IP from a DHCP SERVER... T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: that's because it's part of an ad-hoc network that doesn't exist T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but it needs to be set to dhcp first T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you think it's talking to the DHCP server? pixie dust? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: how do you think it knows it needs to send a dhcp request? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: becaus eit's set to dhcp! T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: not talking about getting an actual ip from dhcp, abelinc T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: i'm talking about setting it to DHCP so it can if it wants to T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: setting the actual interface T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've done that T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: no, i didn't T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: it's retaining the static ip T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it should T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: but it's saying that dhcp is already set on the interface T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: okay, if it's set to a static ip, and I tell the interface to set source=dhcp, it should remove the static ip and set it to "obtain automatically" T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: correct? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where are you determining that it's retaining the IP address? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: ipv4 properties.... T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: or ipconfig, take your pick T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there any sort of command like "bs last" or something to attack the last mob? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nope T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there a text command that will make it execute your last command typed in? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Using the ! will repeat the last command. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: make a targeting script.. then use kt ... kill target T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: perhaps pot a vertical-file-13 ideas-note suggesting bs -1.mobname T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: (potshot or post) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: abelinc, would you kindly put me on ignore so the next time I ask a question, you don't make some halfassed attempt at answering it? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: thx T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: has anyone used a super8-->digital transfer service? any recommendations? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i got a copy of a baby movie from 1970 i wanna have transferred T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone have a MC plugin that monitors the boards? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I want to know when I have Personals and stuff T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so type board? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: c 'dispel mag T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I saw a ss of one for zMud that had a miniwindow showing the board names and the number of new messages in each. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just curious if anyone had anything similar for mc T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc tells Wyverex to go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8 T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun: there are 2 ways to accomplish that...(1) have a script type "board" periodically, gag the output and trigger off it...(2) trigger on INFO: New post #123 in forum Forumname from Player Subj: to increment a number...you'd then need to either trigger on the note header or otherwise update to decrement when you read the posts T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INFO and note alias seems easiest, with a backup that does board on connect T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: info would unsync if notes get removed... a combination of both might be best T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: definitely not easiest...board is much easier if you just want counts :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with note alias, it needs to know what board you're on, it can't just "take one off the top" T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: board wouldn't be fully up to date though, unless you're sending it every second T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I basically want to know when I have a Personal. Like in a miniwindow or even in my prompt T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my statement was strictly on ease of implementation...once a minute/every 5 mins is plenty to know when you've got notes waiting T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for note alias would need a trigger for "^Current forum changed to (\w)." T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I doubt anyone here is getting notes THAT often T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trust me - you will get used to hammering 'note' over and over at various times - log in, just before log out, 30 seconds till the area repops, etc T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not an enormous need for a plugin for that considering the effort needed T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I type board a lot more than note...but I also trig on the INFO message and auto-peek notes as they come in T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Type board? You don't just let the autoswitcher take you on a mystical journey from announce to jokes? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I type board and change according to how much time I have, what topics are going on in a particular board at the time, etc T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, nod.. jokes/general is usually for boredom :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I've got enough time to just go through them all, then I'll let it autoswitch...lately, I board first, and then spam "note" :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You have no unread notes in any subscribed forum. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: right now I have an alias. 'alias email board personal;note unread' T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I run a trigger after all the login scrollby? what should I trigger against? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: your prompt is a good option T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: isn't there a welcome to aardwolf line? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why bother trying to trigger something after that? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: may your adventures be mystical and challenging, or something like that? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just trigger on the text you want to trigger on...is that text actually likely to be in the MOTD? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have a few scripts running that are eating my Personal note notice T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want something to definitely not fire when you're not "ready" then use GMCP status T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: status 1: at login screen, status 2: at MOTD, status 3, fully active and able to receive MUD commands T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: full list of statuses are on the wiki's GMCP page T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there is no status 1, really T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's supposedly at login screen, but no gmcp is sent until you log in, so you never see it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks, reading it now T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, option102 still sends status 1 T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I make an alias for multiple words instead of one * T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: one or more T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In MUSH? add a * for each word. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: with your client. not in aard T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But if it needs to be 1 or more... T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can add more stars but most use one word T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There'll be a bit more coding involved, I believe. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: needs to be something like %-1 on cmud T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh that's not nice T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: one if it's not an alias but a function T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The regex part would be simple enough. It's how you want to process it afterwards. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well whatever is after the alias to be treated as one word T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there will be one %1 only anyways T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: I've had to make several, one for no argument, one for one word argument, one for two word arg.. and so on. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then that's easy enough. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: At least, I think. The regex would be ([\w ]+), if I'm not mistaken. Since I don't regularly script for MUSH, someone else will have to verify if that works or not. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: do aliases use regex T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I can make it like a trigger T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: pattern T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like *+ or something T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: what're you trying to do? like an alias that will use multiple words as a param? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, it can use regex. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for most items one keyword works T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but if I want two words for keywords, it doesn't seem to work T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: trez, try %0 instead of %1 ? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oo, didn't know about that. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod that works nice :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does mush have %-1 %-2 etc? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: %0 is the variable for "give me all of the things" T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: read that trez http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11268 T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: it exaplins how do use regex + multiple keywords :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But does not explain how to spell explain! *blink* T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli runs away in utter terror! T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: works good now T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: At the very top of a MUSH client. it says. MUSHclient - [Aardwolf]. Is it possible to change the [Aardwolf] part.. say to a players name.. so you knew which client you were on? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: World properities world name? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Thanks Menda ^^ T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Alot better :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a moons script besides basts's for mush T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: White|OFF 46 - Grey|OFF 21 - Black|ON 4 - All 3 up in 51 ticks for 3 ticks. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint seen one T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I found one but the math function is a bit off T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Fix the math? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno how to T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bast's Moonbot seems ok to me. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: OSX Users, what's the best terminal emulator for being able to split off the screen into multiple sessions? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Buy a PC T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: He has one. It just happens to be an apple branded PC. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: First of all, I'm on a pc otherwise I wouldn't have to ask, second of all, crawl back under your bridge please. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's not that simple. Our package runs on all operating systems, but some users don't have the cool windows we made :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for terminal, use gnu screen or tmux, the same as you do on the other computers T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I haven't been able to get tmux to play well on OSX, Abe T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I haven't had any issues with it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: back when Ixle was first starting to set up the public tt++ server with tmux, I had used one of my OSX boxes to connect to it fine...I even just compiled libevent and tmux directly on the OSX box and successfully ran tmux locally, split into vertical and horizontal panes...what issue are you having? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that I'm running 10.4.11, as I have both G4 and Intel Macs T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh god someone told absomax to change the world name T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli comforts Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i'd 1st wonder why... then i'd wonder why it would matter? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper db is keyed to world name T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I just answered his question, on how to change it with a theory :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... zmud lets you change names no prob... that why i wondered T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you can do whatever you want T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, if you had a file in zmud called session-name-log.txt, and you changed the session name... your log file name would change T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: exactly T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so while you can change names no prob in zmud, it can have effects on your scripts if you're using that name anywhere T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.. i use my own names-times for logs T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: oh man T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: so i've been poking around changing the way the mush mapper displays right...and for the past few days I've been trying to figure out why the hell room notes no longer show up T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you comment it out? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: well I just found a comment I left a week or so ago that says "-- THIS MAKES NOTES NOT SHOW UP ON THE MAP. FINISH IMPLEMENTING." T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: Man, you should track down whatever idiot wrote that command and smack the crap out of 'em. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why comments are good :-) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: note... the balloon that pops up on hover? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not that T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i love that feature T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though I do actually need to get a windows VC++ environment set up so I can fix the clear bug in those little bubbles T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: one of the few bugs in mushclient that I know about. I know what causes it too, I just don't have a machine that can compile mushclient to test the fix for it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: maybe someday mush will do flat movable-room maps... i got hope :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: feel free to write that into the plugin T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient has nothing to do with it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mushclient just gives me a canvas to draw on T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wanna be able to alter the draing :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: drawing* T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: feel free to submit code that doesn't suck and I'll review it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: over my head T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't think it would be difficult. It might require an update to the db schema to store custom placements, but it wouldn't be hard to do. I just don't think it's important T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just some zones i cant live without it... http://i.imgur.com/b1RHC.png T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that doesn't look like MOD to me T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's umari :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why is it labeled mod? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it exitd to mod T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not, there's an exit to mod north from the top room T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ohhhh T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lemme repost whole map window... T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is whole zmud window... http://i.imgur.com/6gOwJ.png T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should see clearly zone 340 umari T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the part of mush i like is click to run to new room... i can click to slow walk to new room... but in mush i cant see all rooms T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would take like 4 or 5 clicks to get to "Teetering Tumultuously on Top of the Tall Tower" in Umari from start T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's slow walking in zmud.. but one click T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or no clicks if you type T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can type go umariend T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but clicking is easier :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that and i know i need to click a few rooms before it cause of aggros T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: In Mushclient in the Alias section. What does checking keep evaluating do/ T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clicking the "help" button in the bottom of the window can teach you tons :-) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: allows 1 command to trigger multiple alias if the patterns fit T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: wow...never noticed that T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hmm help function in mush isnt as good as it used to be T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish raises an eyebrow. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: You just saved me 100 questions T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: as it used to be? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, describing every checkbox and field of the interface isn't good enough? :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: when upgrading to the latest mc ss, is the aardwolf.db the only file that affects the mapper? I followed all the instructions on the client update page and I feel I'm remapping certain areas. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it depends how old your last version was. and I hope you closed the client before upgrading. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Hi Fiendish. I moved from r1557 to r1667 and yes I closed it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then yes, just that file T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: though don't forget your world file T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I even tried a backup. Must be my imagination. All my cexits appear to be there though so ... T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what makes it seem like you're remapping? are you trying to use thigns like xrt? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no it just redrew the bigmap over Abend and I remapped Masq T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: you will have to recache the bigmap images, of course T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that's not mapping T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ehh.. all of my stored portals are missing like they got purged... odd. Any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure about masquerade T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you purged them? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: just logged on. lol T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you changed the name of your world file? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no biggie really, I just wanted to make sure I did it right. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Whats the stock name. i can double check. I did make a 2nd client recently. I have been playing on. Its in a different folder though. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper portal list shows empty, doink? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ya empty. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I did change my world name recently. Would that do it? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes. don't do that. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you must be absomax :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: This one wasn't me Fiendish!!! T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: lol, I am.. so are they gone? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not gone. just switch back to Aardwolf T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or rename your .db file T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: nice thanks.. ill switch back :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is there a way to keep your miniwindow layouts between upgrades? That takes me the longest T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the mapper db is keyed to the world name T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, it looks for the mapper in the file .db T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: plugins/state folder T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ahh I see, so changing the .db would be just as easy as changing back? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: but what about plugin updates? Does keeping the state files affect that? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the upgrade info is on aard's website where you download the client, btw T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it describes moving the mapper file, what the state files do, etc T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: from your last version, it should be safe to keep your old states T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: read it, that's why I'm asking T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: All back. Thanks guys :) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: it's only really unsafe from certain very old versions that unfortunately some people still use T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: was pretty bummed.. was alot of work to put them all in. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, I'll hang on to my state files T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: one more question, occasionally I get an error pop up stating that it couldn't save a state file. Is that an issue? What's it trying to save? Variable changes? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: sounds like your computer might have filesystem problems T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or you have mushclient in a bad location that it can't write to T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: well I keep my MC folder on Dropbox. I'll turn off sync while I'm playing. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how tough would it be to add char status to the stat miniwin? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: tough for whom? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: point taken. lol It just calls from the GCMP right? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and which status? in note mode, afk, etc? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: like standing, resting, sleeping, etc T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, anything that you'd add yourself would need to be re-done whenever there's a new version... T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: indeed T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I have a "stand when at 100%" trigger, so I pretty much just presume that I'm standing :-) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Lua isn't a language I've been thrilled to tackle yet. Might just have to T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ahh, good idea T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: looking at the stat_mon xml now. How can I format the Gold to include commas? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: require "commas" and then use it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: see the lua/commas.lua file T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: simple enough. Might be a good visual update. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: hmm...could be. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Have you looked at making a Board miniwindow that shows number of new msg per board? I saw an SS for one on cMud and I liked it. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for the status, try going to something like line 197 (it's the "blank line" in the status), and using the format of the other table.insert entries to add one for "status.pos" T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that line is only if you don't collapse the display, but since you're looking for more info, I'm guessing you don't T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, I'll try it T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than changing the miniwin's size, the only other place that looks like it'd have room is the line for when you're fighting someone, but I dunno which way that would move if you put it there, as you go from fighting to not fighting T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I need to pour a cup of coffee and re-read the miniwindow section. I could use them for a lot. T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so far, I've only copied the com log to another one for clantalk and tells T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's pretty good :-) T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: tbh, I'd rather play aardwolf than write scripts and plugins lol T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what we have Fiendish, Bast and Winkle for :P T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I started aard on my CMUD client. When I saw a download for a modified Mushclient, I tried it. Honestly, I was completely blown away by the GUI you guys have created here. Still amazes me T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: all four of me T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: I'm using Duckbat's website and "+item hold" is showing 6 items.. that sound right to you? T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try +hold T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "using Duckbat's website" sounds wrong T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cupcake goes, "Heh." T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: +item hold shows all items with hold in the name, i believe T3/r7/2012-08-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: there we go, thanks T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmm. I seem to have lost my chat window in the aard mush client... any suggestions on resetting it? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I think I got the last mccp bug worked out wooooot! T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone alive ? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: barely T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you know stuff about mush mapper ? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Statistically, theres bound to be at least SOMEONE alive T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this channel is special T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: not if vaccines get ya T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright, so T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's a portal to area that's not at start room T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but apparently it's shorter to go to start using this portal T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: however I don't wanna use it, how do I go about it T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I could set a static route but it's gay T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: good good, even in Thomas it's alway's the buffers T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: all you coders out there are just a chuckeling T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: all right no disconnects in a long time T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is any other way to see when you move from a room beside north-south etc...?:) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you turn tags on Rname, will show a new name when you move T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how can i get roomid with gmcp in a plugin?i tried getplugininfo() and then print(gmcpval("room.info.exits")) but didnt work T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: kinda more complicated than that, you should check how they do it in some random plugin T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: IIRC, there's some info on plugins there T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: they dont explain how to do it there chosig :) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: the first code snippet does T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: err... second when it's from a plugin T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: Did you remember to require "gmcphelper" ? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the path Chosig told you is where you can find info on how to use gmcp data T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: oh..that was :) thx chosig T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP is where you can see gmcp roominfo data T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: do mushclient have stacks? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: when your triggers are activated, how do you not have it sent to "world", do u use world immediate? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: what are you trying to do ? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: oh ... sometimes i want mushclient to see the trigger but not have it spit out the command in the screen. i just want it to do something without echoing on screen. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is the 'omit from output' option checked ? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: yes, but then, that triggered line is removed as well T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hmm im not sure ... possibly create an alias that is omitted from output and call that alias from the trigger :/ make sure trigger is sent to execute T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the trigger, have it send to script...in the action, use SendNoEcho("whatever") T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the omit from output is referring to the triggered text, that's how you gag stuff T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: i don't wanna gag the triggered text, just the output to the world T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, what I described will do that T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hmm yeah that should work T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: lemme try that T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: send world (immediate) doesn't do the same thing right? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd echo to the output window T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as you have normal input/commands echoed to output window, at any rate T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: hmm... so in the box, i write e.g. SendNoEcho("hammer") and mca T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: hmm.. ignore that for now T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: on bbssh can you use scryps and trigers at all T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: looked like just macros to me, but it really sucks on a torch so I don't even bother using it. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: whats macros T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: keypresses T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: suck is there a better client i could use on my blackberry? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best thing to do on mobile devices, IMO, is to use telnet/ssh clients to connect to full computers running real MUD clients T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I never recommend using the mobile MUD clients...they don't have anywhere near the capabilities of mature clients T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Has anyone ever had an issue where their control key gets 'stuck' on, even though it's not being pressed? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i dont have net one net on my pc T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and even if they did, if you use both computer and mobile, you'd end up having to replicate your environment on both separately T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you cleaned the keyboard recently? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Starling, yes, it's called "Sticky Keys" and it's generally available as an ease of use option for disabled people. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: someone tell starling that it's probably the handicapped access sticky keys T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: No, I've never cleaned the keyboard (it happened on my laptop) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I thought I disabled sticky keys, hmm T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: will check again though T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you check the sticky keys setting under accessibility options? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: whate is the best blackberry clint if you have no other way T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have other ways, even without net on your PC T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I use midpssh on blackberry, not sure if any actual mud clients exist for it T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: midpssh is bbssh T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are freely available shell accounts, and ixle runs a host that lets you connect to a pretty slick command line client T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't even see accessibility options under control panel, I looked for it already T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: what other options do i have T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's probably called "ease of access" T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and bbssh is going down in favor of the bb tablet OS T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It might be a word that is a synomym for "accessibility" depending on your OS. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: whats a shell acount T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But considering "Sticky Keys" have been a feature since at least Mac 7.0 and Windows 3.1, I'm assuming you'll find it if you show enough gumption. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an account with shell access to a unix or linux computer T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'll look into it. Thanks all. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: and how does that help me? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, I guess they renamed it 'ease of access center'. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling pats herself on the head. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: abe could you $aby go vis please lol T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm at work, so my responses are spotty...best to keep teh questions on tech for now :-) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wish I had a work load like yours. When I go to work, I'm nonstop busy for all 8 hours. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok so i have no idea what shell acounts are but as a blackberry is my only internet conection what is my best option? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_account T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Reading up is your best option, imo T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, send Ixle a tell asking if he still offers tintin++ client access T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and hans, it's all about workload management and multitasking ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, I work in a bakery. No phones allowed on the work floor. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But previously you said the problem was being busy, not workforce regulations. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: And yet you just said the problem is workforce regulations, not time management. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I AM busy. 8 full hours of doing stuff that would preclude me stopping to check a phone and fiddle with texting as often as Abe does. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you do IT, you're always at the computer, and usually have some putty windows open :-) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not on a phone or texting...I'm only connected to aard using mobile devices when NOT at work :P T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What do you do, Hans? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: my official position is ingredients scaler but I can also run the production lines and mix the doughs (50 to 250-lb affairs), too T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you've ever eaten bread from a restaurant or grocery store, I probably had a hand in making it. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, in the STL metro area T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we also do business deep into illinois (ie, belleville) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: Um 50-250lb doughs aren't that big. not big enough to say if you've eaten bread you've touched it...just sayin. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: AHH the disclaimer. sorry didn't see you said in the stl area T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we're not the only game in town, but everyone's pretty evenly spread around here. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: 1 mixer? or multiple going T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok if i get a shell acount can i run scrypts? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, Wonder & Strohman (now owned by Beembo) own the bread world T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol i feel so dumb but how do i get a shell acount? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: to what? your own mud? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if we ever had all of them working all at once we could have 5 mixers (one that handles up to like 300 lb mixes, 2 that handle 50-200lbs, a rotary mixer with rolling bowls that can handle 250lbs, and 2 small fixed-bowl rotary mixers for anything 50lbs or lower) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sharp, he's just looking to have scripting functionality while on his blackberry, with no regular access to an Internet-connected computer T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they own it, yes, but they lean heavily on local bakeries for volume. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: so like a verticle hobart 80 quart and a few hobart horizontal slow mixers eh? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wickedly Sharp nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think the bakery at the grocery store I used to work at had a 100lb mixer of their own T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: sorry came in mid convo I guess. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pair of 'em, actually T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: how do i get a shell acount i only have a blackberry and i use bis ill pay for help T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably, but they probably didn't do the volume. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: my retail store has a 300lb hobart horizontal and 2 vertical mixers (80/120quart) for bagels. we make a crap ton of bagels T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: yummy, 250 lb loaf of bread T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: both my retail shops have that where my wholesale has 5 horizontal mixers and pumps out sooo many bagels. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'd think a 250# loaf would be raw in the center T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i use bbssh T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that depends.... in the 250lb loaf 250ft long? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we do about 60 doughs a day just on one shift. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I only think it was 100lb cuz I can't imagine the bakery chix lifting from bigger mixer...the bowl was a couple feet in diameter T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: really? how big 1 or 2lb loafs? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: do they boil the bagels or are they only NY 'style'? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: heh ontuct, they are boiled. which IS the ny style T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: both, Sharp. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: uhm i have 1mil ill pay for help with shell accounts please T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: then not trying to be rude why so few loafs? thats at most 120lbs of dough. or do you mean 60 batches T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: nvm i reread what you said. yea thats a lot of dough T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: My retail store does about 2000lbs of dough each store each day. the retail probably 6-8x that amount T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So that's why store bought bread tastes funny! T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i realy have no idea on how to get a shell acount T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling frowns at what Hanslanda did. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wickedly Sharp licks Starling. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Google "how do I get a shell account" ? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh, basically. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: and don't ask star for help. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Starling can be quite helpful sometimes. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, google knows everything, except for why my damn control key got stuck on, I checked :( T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all the urban legends about fast-food/food-prep, none of the hordes of customers cognizant of what you're doing. Tyler Durden would have a field day here. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: idk, all i've gotten was a few heated arguements T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wickedly Sharp snickers with Starling about their shared secret. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: tyler made the best soap T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, she can be a pita, but she does help when she's in the mood. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Wickedly Sharp is agreeing with that Ontuct person again... T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: AHHAHAHAHAHA a pita...i'm gonna just go with what i think you mean. love it. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Tyler wasn't too shabby with the bisque, either. :) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but shooting oneself takes a brass set T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wickedly Sharp Tech: or no set. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I try not to be too mean to people. It doesn't help with the violence in the world. :) T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i googled it but nothing i stil cant find out how to get a shell acount T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really, Topbilling? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just give up T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: realy T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You mean the first two links on getting shell accounts doesn't help you? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, the ones that say, "How to get a *Good* Shell Account" and "Free Shell Accounts"? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or the YouTube video a few links down saying, "How to make a free Shell Account"? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: interestingly enough not everyone gets the same 2 links as a top billing T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or did you just google them and not see the answers in the brief description for each link and immediately give up? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: if i google how to get a shell acount for aardwolf wil it work? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: cant watch videos T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: it's a conspiracy... google searches and stuck control keys T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Xantcha. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I googled for "how do I get a shell account" and got lots of results T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: topbilling: first send a tell to ixle asking if he still offers his service T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: google has never once failed to return results for my searches. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol no its just i dont know what im looking for T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: got the link T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: where will you get the scripts you want to run from? I don't suppose you can write them yourself? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ooo i think i get it i can conect to a shel acount using bbssh T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, top, that's the point T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok question it sais i should input tellnet as the port but i can only input numbers in port field T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Input 23. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's telling you to enter the telnet port #. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: either leave blank or put 23...unless the shell service allows ssh, in which case you'd put that as connection type and use port 22 T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: and i dont T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: under terminal type i should input vt100 i dint have a terminal type field T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I usually put vt220, but vt100 is fine T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: there is no terminal type field T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you wouldn't put anything :P T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: only term valu and its linux T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i input gmail.com as the hostname T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to my knowledge, gmail.com doesn't run shell accounts T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: then im scruwed lol T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why are you screwed? i thought you looked up a free shell account service? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i looked up how to get one so far lol and as abe said gmail doesent do shell so i need to make a new acount so back to google T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: people suggested googling how to get a shell account, not getting a shell account at google :P T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol the site said to input last 2 parts of my email acount as hostname this gmail.com T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you sent ixle a tell yet? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: yes only get a auto response sleep/work T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last I heard, he was offering free access to a shell account that's pre-setup with a MUD client and scripts, with no config necessary on your part... T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd wait for his response before bothering with any other T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: that would rock! T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i wil do so thanks T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i thought that was just so people could test out his client setup before getting their own host, not a permanent thing? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it may have changed, but it was mostly pitched to me the other way around...that the client setup was a byproduct of the service T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: how does one find all duplicate rows in a column in excel... and not just duplicate to a specific one specific cell. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which was why he was asking all sorts of info on trying to make a shell accessible and changeable by different people T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: Title the headers, and go Data -> Remove duplicates, and select every entry in your headers. It will only remove all rows that are identical. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: dont wat to remove just mark them T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: Then write a macro to check to see if each entry matches previous entries. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: or if you're lazy and only have 1 dataset to look at, filter, sort one column by A to Z, and look for duplicates to highlight. T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: this tintin thing uhm on the site it asks if i want to download it...is this needed lol T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no... ixle already has tintin running on his server, you'd just need to log into it T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how does one use the area keyword in duckbat's search? Is it &area=keyword? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: & only accepts numbers T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's &areanumber T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do a search on the area, and that'll tell you his index number for the area T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: from the help page: + In front of keyword means you want this included and - means you want it skipped. & sign means it's a numeric variable and you can use ('>', '<', '>=', '<=', '=', '!=') T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: now mccp is working much better wooooootttt T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: is there a condnesed aardwolf for the blind? T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: read 'help vi' T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: or listen T3/r7/2012-08-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: whatever T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: zMUD won't let me export my database (aliases/triggers/keys/etc.). If I try to "Save As", nothing happens. If I go into the folder where the .MUD file zMUD is allegedly drawing from for Aardwolf, the newest file present was lat modified more than a month ago. I can't find any other .MUD files through Windows 7 Search. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (zMUD ver. 7.21, BTW) T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently my Aardwolf settings file is being drawn from C:\Users\Profile\AppData\Local\Virtual Stores\Program Files (x86)\zMUD. Why? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: why not? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: game profile settings are often saved in the profile instead of in the program location due to UAC T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how to I purge one room from mapper? I read help, which tells me how to purge an area, or the cexits from a room, but i need mapper to re-do one room. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you right-click on the room? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i got the mubmenu.. I used delete exit to get rid of the down exit that doesnt exist here. thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone savvy with mush mapper T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: besides Fiendish T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ask your question T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it tries to navigate mazes when exits are -1 T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I don't know why it tries to do that, or how to make it less dumb, sry. The best thing I can figure to do is make custom exits that walk through -1 rooms if possible. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no, the issue is T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't want it to walk, since it's a maze, it's pointless T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll check with Fiendish it's prolly too specific behaviour T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: curious tho, why it'd pick to go north then recall, if exits are -1 T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it may have current room marked as norecall, so it tries to find recallable one first T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 9/10, weird movement through exits it shouldn't take are the result of malformed cexits or portal strings T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: is there a blackberry mud client? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: bbssh T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use telnet/ssh client T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: rove T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: check app world T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: also bbssh.org T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those aren't mud clients, they're telnet/ssh apps that will let you connect T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't have muddish features like triggers, variables, etc T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but my opinion is that it's best to not use MUD clients on mobile devices T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: better to use a telnet/ssh app to connect to something that can run a full-featured client T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that gives you more functionality than any mobile MUD client has, plus lets you have one config on all your devices, PC or mobile T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: I agree... I was asking for a nb since I don't know much about connecting through BB or other mobiles T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: tell -h T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: HI all, I was hoping one of you might be able to helpo me. I'm getting a ^? when I stry to backspace, but my stty is set for erase=^?, that should work right? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: I'm seeing a ^M when I hit return too, is the terminal echonng too much or something? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try stty erase ^H T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: nuts, that didn T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: Still getting ^? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you do the stty...type "stty erase " and then actually hit your backspace key T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: may need to hit ctrl-v before backspace T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: although prob not in this case :> T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: huh, when i hit the key it just backspacxes over the space T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then do what ranrr said T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "stty erase ", hit ctrl-v, hit backspace T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: ah, okaty T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: well, that didn't work either T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: maybe in T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: maybe i'm emulating wierd or something T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: Thanks for the help though T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are all the steps/programs that you're going through to get here? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: I appreciate it. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: telnet aardwolfd.org T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: without the d T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it only after connected to aard that you're getting the ^? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and backspace is working in the unix/linux shell? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: yeah my normal terminal is fine, and telent elsewhere worlks okay T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: EWell, telnet to our internal telnet stuff T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hit ctrl-] to go into telnet settings...then type "toggle crlf" T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok i need a shell acount could i please get an exact website on where to get one please T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: I got a "Will send carruage returns as telnet M T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: without the M typo that is T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did that help? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: nope T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If that doesn't work, try "set erase ctrl-v backspace" T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: abel please send me a tell T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: damn, erase workd fine in the telnet itseldf T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: I tried ewhat yiou said. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: still no luck? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: please abe T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: That's cool you can get to the telnet like that. no, no luck T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, it's a set command, not a toggle command...when you ctrl-], do "set erase " ctrl-v hit backspace T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: try export TERM=vt200 before telnet, maybe aard gets terminal string and sequences T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hmmm... next step, I would probably suggest trying a mud client like tf or tt++ T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: topbilling, I cannot help you right now T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just telnetted into testport, escaped to telnet, did "set erase ctrl-h", and that got my backspace to output ^?...I then went back to telnet shell, did "set erase " ctrl v, backspace key and it went back to erasing properly T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heading out to another location, so my help is gone for an hour or so (which is why I can't help you right now, Top) T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: So odd, the login screen with the ascii wolf lets me backspace for name entry T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jahnz Tech: Odd T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: js canvas html5. i need to put a bunch of little pics on canvas, and on top of these there should be some lines. but when using drawimage, it puts always the pic's on top. i cant find a proper tutorial for this. any advice? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: help mush give the download site, but thats for the one from last december. where do I get the lastest and greatest? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you mean the mushclient, from fiendish site T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/ T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: this is the home of the latest snapshots T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: every time I close my client it messes it up my miniwindows. Any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what do you mean by "messes up"? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: -g 10 T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: they are not where I leave them. The sizes are the same but I have realign them every time T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: windows gone wild T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I even tried 'aard layout lock' T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you save the layout? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do you save it? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the plugins settings are in the state files right? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: Quick question about importing scripts and the like into Mushclient. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: shoot T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: someone sent me the script they're using for level tracking, and it's in XML. How do I go about importing it? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: just imprort that file by pressing add on the screen that shows up when you press CTRL+SHIFT+P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: how can you include hide and sneak in winkle's spellup plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is there a defined length limit for an areas keyword? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'd guess --------------- T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: keywords are max 10 chars T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not true for areas name... so thought i ask about keyword :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks Myrkul, is that info anywhere readable? like builder rules or sumptin? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: probably not T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just something that's easy to find out with area keyword :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint asking for current ones, writing regex for future T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i assume it won't be extended T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no reason for it to be, really T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Well the current display has 15 spaces. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: had: ^ (.?.?.?) (.?.?.?) (.?.?.?) (\a+)(\s+)(.*)(?:\s+|)$ T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ft1 messed it up :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only keyword with a # in it :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that should be fine :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you're trying to be more precise by limiting it to 10 chars, i'd use something like ^\s([\s\d]{2}\d)\s\s([\s\d]{2}\d) ([\s\d]{3}) T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oops, cut that off :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: (\a+.?) solved that T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, you get the point, the beginning could be more specific :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i am trimming the captured results T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hate when i hit enter instead of \ :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint using the from to lock other then to put it back into a #SUB T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here was my prob... http://i.imgur.com/G29ku.png T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: getting ft1 now :) T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: could just use [\w\d]+ instead :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: \d will match when it has no # in it? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: sure, that's one or more letters or digits T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, actually, \w matches on digits too, doesn't it? so you could just use \w+ T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, \w is [0-9A-Za-z_] T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so what do the links do? run you there? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: keyword="sw area" name="go area" sw=alias to show zmud path, go=alias to run WITH zmud map vnums/shornames T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: after clicking some of them... http://i.imgur.com/Jv8B5.png T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all the (goto xxx) are portal aliases T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still need to change some of them,,, {.(goto pnv);.(open door;w)} ... pnv=portal new vertigo for instance :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hehe T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is potion quaffer v2 an allowed plugin? how do you put in multiple buff potions if you quaff 7 buff potions? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: anybody here uses PotionQuafferV2? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Don't spam every channel with the same question. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ok sorry. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not like you have much reason to be quaffing potions right now anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Writing a note will get you a response, without bugging everyone! T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Or waiting more than a couple minutes. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Even if you did, it's still just easier to either write your own, or assign the quaff command to a macro T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ah, ok. thanks. i'll just alias it then. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no settings in potionquafferv2 for multiple buff potions T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: thanks, Abelinc. I'll just alias it. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: part of what potionquaffer does is keep track of how many of each potion you have in stock...it has values for "heal", "mana", and "buff"...if you had 3 of one buff pot but only one of another, it wouldn't know what number to show T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for your initial question, it's entirely allowed T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i also found an Autoheal.xml, is that for aard? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Hard to say with only having a title like that. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins/AutoHealer.xml T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wrote an autoheal plugin, but it's so old that it uses statmon instead of GMCP... T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that one is not for aard T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Could be though, considering it just uses prompt :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you read it and it says "The plugin takes a different approach to managing elixir and moss balance T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we don't have moss balance T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's looking for balance time elapsing T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Ahh, I just looked at the prompt trigger. Didn't look too in-depth T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's a plugin for an IRE game, I think. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llanos Tech: anyone know when i type an i it adds an extra capital I inbetween the i and the next letter i type anyone know how to fiIx iIt gets annoyiIng fiIxiIng iIt every tiIme. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Blowtorch client? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llanos Tech: on my phone so iI dont know T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It could be a phone hardware issue. Does it happen outside the application? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably something to do with autocorrect. *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you should know what client you're using on your phone. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't know what icon you pressed on your phone? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llanos Tech: hmm dont happen outsiIde the game must be autocorrect T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Android Tech: hellos, looking for maze solver or something to make mazes easy. Tips and help highly appreciated T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's sort of dependant on the maze T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: depends on the maze... maps, practice... T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mazes are generally simple to solve. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hunt is your friend. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Android Tech: mazes really cramps my style. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: People tend to make them far worse than they really are. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: hunt, drop coins in rooms... T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Android Tech: for cps and such T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: good, they're working T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A maze solver isn't really going to help you, anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: android: if your client uses GMCP, use the room's UID to help you map the maze T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll do more running in circles (and taking up more time) than you would if you were to manually solve it. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Android nods. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper thisroom in MUSHclient, for example T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: With that said, I think Swalec had something to that effect. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: swalec's just ran around randomly, i think T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle falls down laughing. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Apparently it's no better than what Android's doing now. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: brute force solving mazes with gmcp is illegal, btw, i asked when it was first added :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or no worse. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Myrkul: I think that had more to do with the fact that maze rooms showed gmcp exits at the time. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Instead of the -1. T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: walking rooms cannot be illegal T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they never did, afaik T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it wouldn't need to be brute forced if they did :P T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ATCP gave all exits T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah, nod T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def maze-walk = /set atcp_maze_walk=1 %; /eval /eval /set atcp_maze_path=%%{%{1}_maze} T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: once mapped, exits don't matter. Your map already has the uids, and most mazes only have a limited number of worthwhile places to go. It's just a matter of following the uid path, which for best results means pets (ie, scan/hunt shortcuts.) T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Basts Spellup Script, work with berserk? or only spells? T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: spells and skills T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: skills and spells as well T3/r7/2012-08-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: nice, thanks Abe. I may have an outdated version.. waiting for berserk to fade to see. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: anybody here use midppsh? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: anybody here ever use a shell acount from bbssh? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: hi anyone here use midpph? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: please its urgent ill pasy for info T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: pay* T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Constantly asking isn't going to help you here. Writing a note on Tech board can. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: you cannot post notes in this forum T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. Probably level locked at 5. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: yes and im trying to be a snewb so i cant level just to post T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone recomend a script that times your pups? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Many scripts out there. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine could be converted to MUSH, most likely. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Dont need anything fancy just a simpler timer, with a gt maybe. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe sharptracker T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: got a URL for it, or where I can find it? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really, it's simple. Learn about os.time and look up 'lua time difference'. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~taramai/ T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not sure whether it is what you are looking for, yet can be good base to start with T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks, both. I may look into it.. ive thuought about it. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, it's quite easy. :p T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: seems simple, trigger on pup msg.. timer... trigger on pup msg, report time, set timer again or some sort. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Here's what mine looks like (though it's on level, not pup) T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This level} Time: 1d 22:27:37 Exp: 2,240 (1,166 bonus) Kills: 35 Gold: 68,387 T/P: 0 (0 bonus)/3 Quests: 24 (550 qps) Trivia: 0 T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Fancy :) T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I like the colors to ^^ T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I love them too. :P All my reports have the same scheme. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im using mush and my mapper isent working how can i get it to wirk? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: work T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: A little vague, need to be more specific. Can always try restarting client. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i found it lol it whas hiden behind another window T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol sooo new to mush could somebody please give a scryp icould test T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: how can i walk with the direction keys on mush? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: num lock, use keypad T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: alt + enter > numpad, to change the keys T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: The mapper window and all other windows you see in mush are scripts. So you are testing scripts already. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: thanks could imaby get a triger lol T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ehm ... a trigger for what? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well no idea lol any triger i just ant to tet T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: test T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why dont you make you're own. It's pretty easy to make one. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol thats why i want an example so i can see how to do it T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/triggers.htm T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: mush is slow lol T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MUSH is far from slow... T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: its slow for me but id think its my signal T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Not sure which script it is, but one of winkles puts it on high speed... way less client lag. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and maybe there are just too many plugins running and it's the computer that is slow. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: my pc is slow but i love mush T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yep it's nice T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: howmutch data does aard take/ howlong wil 3gig hold me? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a few months T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, only 3G? You'll be able to do maybe 10 quests, or about 5 hours. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well that sucks T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm kidding. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I only have 5gig and I manage easily T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll be able to do about 15 quests. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: nooooooooooooo oooo oo o o oo o oo ooooo T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol 3gig cost me a fortune it better hold me over for 2 monthes T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol where do i input trigers lol im soooo new T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I just gave you an url about that T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: sorry dident se it T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: game -> configure -> triggers T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: are there gq scrypts? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sure but I dont think ppl will share them T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol ill pay rofl T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: mccp bonus is soo welcome T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: what do you call that art like the wolf when you log into aard T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ASCII art T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: OMG!! mapper is awwwwsum T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and it will get even better once you get to know it. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: anything els i should know about mush? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i still like this art better for login... http://i.imgur.com/RHMST.png T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this script's math function for 3 moons is kinda messed up, anyone can fix that ? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's by uhm T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Rathik it says T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you know how it's messed up? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: script says all moons are shining, which they are T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox drops his pants and gives you the vertical smile! T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but 3 moons says next is in X ticks for Y ticks T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also the Y ticks are sometimes 3, sometimes 4... if it's mathed correctly should be static T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the raise/fall part of it is fine, looks like T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or maybe the raise/fall part is wrong, but when it sees a moon it sets it properly, but for example duration is set wrong, I Dunno T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe I should just get another script T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like right now T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: The next conjunction of all three moons will be in 135 ticks and will last 1 ticks. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't be 1 tick T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asoth Tech: assuming a stable orbit and stable math, you're right T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's static my cmud one works properly T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I could use bast's but I heard it needs some other plugins of his T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would that matter? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I want 1 plugin only T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've got a dozen plugins T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well I'm sorry it doesn't make sense to you T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many of which are interdependent T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that's fine T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it doesn't makes sense..."to me" isn't part of it T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: makes sense to me, so it's part of it T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you download one thing, and you enable only one plugin T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and bast's won't be messed up by being in note mode, etc T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: heard it needs other stuff enabled, haven't tried myself T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: will try if it works as standalone T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which it doesn't seem to right now T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no window no nothing, no command to see 3 moons... T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh it says here you need to see all moons before it appears T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright then T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 3 moons don't affect enchants, anyway T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: got proof ? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and is it intended or not T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye moons seems to be standalone plugin T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so that works T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i just downloaded the potcounter scrypt fro alhenas site how do i use it on my mush T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: where can i download mush scrypts? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: microsoft office 2013 will not bee compatible with windows xp or windows vista T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: guess that's one product I won't be using, then T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aard mush... how do i stop "Received Telopts to turn OFF statmon." when i switch between zmud and aard mush? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymouz Tech: just T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymouz Tech: just to let eveyone know. group anonymous has taken a special interest in this game. dreamfyre brought forth this. unless its corrected , sadly , everyone will pay his due T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: lovely T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: give us a tune T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ummm...who is that, and how does that affect me? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymouz Tech: do not mistake yourself. we are legion. we are recruiting. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: recruiting for what? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Oh, so 'nobody', and 'not at all'. Got it. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beliigrera Tech: annonymous.. to quote Tigernuts 'lovely" T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yotee Tech: WTF would they care about a MUD T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymouz Tech: use google . check out hacker group anonymous. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymouz Tech: because we were personally attacked T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oh you mean those script kiddies? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymouz Tech: we do not care about your mud T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beliigrera Tech: i dont fully believe you're from Anonymous.. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anonymouz Tech: we want dreamfyre T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: how about I give your IP address to anonymouz along with your claims of being a member? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lasher knows more hackers than you do. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lasher Tech: now shoo. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Avalerion Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yotee Tech: Me neither, sounds like a kid who wants attention T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parallel Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and if you are I hope they shoot you. If I could I'd do it myself T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yotee Tech: WITH MAGIC! T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't anonymous now essentially an NSA asset? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yotee Tech: oh no my buffers are being overflowwwed T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who are using it to attack the likes of wikileaks and Iranian research stations? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yotee Tech: Also I highly doubt a real Anonymous hacker would come in and talk all cryptically T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well obviously, but was a side question. I could never sympathise with a hacking gruop without ethics and an agenda that I could agree with T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: he's just the alt of botontop T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, just reading back on gossip now T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: looking for someone to write/convert a script in mush T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is what it does.. http://pastebin.com/BKStULqN T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I used to have something like that, but before you could use rankings on a clan, so it only used rosters, and was really ugly. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in mush? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, actually, no I didn't. I just copy/pasted the whole roster into excel, and excel did all the work. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i'm still on zmud, so currently using zscript/perlscript T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but others wanna use it and they have mush :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the ftp upload is optional really, i gan make a page to receive the txt file T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so mainly need to wind up with a text file that has 1 line for each clannie... Ozzy|Master|123|123|789|456|99.99|999|456|789|0 T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wish you used your actual numbers rather than 123 crap :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i will for tells :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since the named fields you give for variable ozzy are in a different order than your output file, every number field is meaningless in your example...all but gold/qp are public T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You think someone would do that? Just go on to tech and tell LIES? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: coulda just left those 2 out T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ozzy|Master|7492|972|232|10496|99.60|999qp|5693|99999999gold|0nil_placeholder T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: there :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: you have a lot of gold. that's probably breaking things. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a php script reads fomr the file to show on a "ranks" page on our members site T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't be all that bad to do, you could see what client Light uses for their rankings as it's got most of the same info T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then it'd just be a matter of adding the donation info T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well, i mush, and opensource script... i could work with that T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im pretty decent at learning from looking at other code T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if mush* T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just figured someone who knew mush could code one out pretty quick for some tp or gold :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does it always end in a 0? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... don't remember why i did that, but the php expects it in my code T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: think it was the way i wrote the txt file, ended with a | and easiest todo was write a 0 at end :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it'd take me about 10 mins to write it in tf start to finish T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i'd have to look at the php again to figure out why... scipt is like 8 years old now T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, same for me in zmud/cmud T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, might as well leave that part...really all you need the client itself to do is write the file and continue on as always from there T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea, don't care about the auto ftp upload T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I'm bored on Sunday I'll look at doing it for MUSH...mostly busy before then T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can just make a form on admin page to upload T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: did "CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT:" used to be just "CLAN:" ? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You could possibly search Abelinc's logs... T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i would assume that clan announcement is current clan only and not in public logs T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just wondering if it is new in the past 2 years T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Thought you were talking about the public messages where clan x change their tax rate, etc. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is not new within the past 2 years T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wierd... never had that captured to info win then, thanks Abelinc T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tax rate is a CLANINFO: message, btw T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... got that one T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: T1/r2/2008-11-24.txt.gz:CLAN ANNOUNCEMENT: Magik has donated 100,000 gold to the clan. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was the day I clanned T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: anyone else have a problem with GQ check with Winkles Quest plugin T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what kind of problem? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: im forced to use gq info which really doesnt help T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: it doesnt show... because its trying to put it in the status bar T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Anyone know a command or trick to get the Bast Spellup mini window to reappear... not sure why it happened to have disapeared on me? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I quit using it. I'm using winkle's sp script now T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: you like it better? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: for bast's stuff, load the miniwin_tabbar. should let you redisplay windows relatively easily. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: also serves as a head's up display, for things like noexp, quest status, etc. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Have it loaded, when I click the spellup box, i get nothing. Tried looking behind other windows and clicking also. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: really odd. My 2nd client it is still there. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: so buggy T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: if you were to advise someone who has a pretty novice background in programming (like, can handle functions, variables, loops, the super basics) where to start to get comfortable with object-oriented languages, where would you tell them to start? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: At the beginning. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: No crap, Etzli :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try milk of magnesia. I hear it's a good laxative, Bob. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: You might want to start by looking at an OOP tutorial for beginners. Either refer him to that or tell him what it says. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: it's for me T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But seriously, at the beginning. What langauge are you looking at, Nixed? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nixed: if you can handle functions, you already have an understanding of OOP. Think of Objects as functions with mutliple values. (instead of returning one value, it works like an array housing multiple the functions, methods, and such) T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just pick a language and go T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Visual Basic or whatever the .NET version is called now will probably be good enough to get them familiar with it without scaring them away with intimidating syntax. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: we studied some, differences aren't that big T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Honestly the best OOP language, IMO, to start with is Java, just because there's a huge user base with TONS of tutorials. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: VB.NET? T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat runs away in utter terror! T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: C# is pretty easy T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Don't start with VB.NET T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ruby is nice. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: ideally i think i'd like to eventually work my way up to being comfortable with developing web-based applications T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You'll develop your own preferences for languages, but just pick one and stick with it to get started. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I do Java daily. Most of what I do was written in Java so I continue in Java T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you're going to web app, PHP or C# T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the biggest hurdle for that kind of novice user will be to unlearn anything they might have picked up or retained from their non-OOP work. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Java and Python cover about all I need T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: and i could sort of mess around in PHP and i had a bunch of half-finished projects, but I never *really* learned how to properly implement things T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: web-based applications is a very broad genre, as they can be created using almost any language or scripting engine, T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crioni Tech: learn some Javascript too. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger . o O ( and html ) T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: i think the final straw for me was trying to work with AJAX and just failing miserably T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: just make sure you never compile your Server-Side Scripting, or you'll create a black hole T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Unless your using JScript, or whatever it is T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nixed Tech: staring at my code for 3 straight days wondering why a
element wasn't appearing right T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger tickles Xantcha. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I liked c# T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: not a black hole, just magic, remember :P T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: copy/paste your dicv T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: div* T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I started on a MOO, or Mud Object Oriented T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can checkout ms's framework too T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: MFC? Ick. T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I save my miniwindow layout? I have it locked but at times they move when I close and reopen the client T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: save world automatically on close? although I'm not certain if plugins are connected to the world or the client T3/r7/2012-08-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: they are saved in the state files but for some reason they don't always stick. The size stays the same but they move positions T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ugh, did they change keepvid.com? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: people still use keepvid? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: downloadhelper extension for firefox is the way to go T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that "iterate through all same-named rooms in an area" feature I've heard about is making S&D real tempting when I keep getting mobs in "A Dead End in the Labyrinth" T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: It is very nice for times like that. Never as fast as someone who knows the exact room instantly.. but nice to be able to go down the list loooking for your mobs. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: wow the android client is awsome T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: you using blowtorch? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: yep, the custom version for aardwolf T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GreenAcid Tech: though typeing is something i will have to get used too T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: Some options such as 'compact' can be toggled. Is is possible to forc T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: I can only toggle some options such as 'compact'. Is is possible to set their value (for scripting) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: what do you mean by set their value? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: I mean something like 'compact on' or 'compact yes' T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: in order to achieve? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ah, you want specifically to be able to turn it on or off without knowing which it is T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it order to toggle the option on or off, regardless of it's previous state. I don't think there is a way to do this T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: perhaps you could look for the lines "Compact mode set." and "Compact mode removed." T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eratho Tech: Indeed. Some triggers could work T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I see use for this even outside scripting. Suppose you need to toggle autoassist off - good thing to do in inferno. Now I have to spam 2x autoass, and maybe a third time if I see need to toggle it T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: anybody here use a autohunter crypt T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Huan, or keep track of its status in a variable T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: yes, but that means some scripting, maybe miniwindow to display it... which is a lot of work T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i have the autohunter plugin but i yhink its broken T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunja Tech: is there any basic tinyfugue script sets, what would provide movement, lites, fighting/surveillance helpers? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: geeze, why not just hire someone to play the game for you T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wunja Tech: people don't use quick buttons around? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weisel Tech: how can i remove an area from the mapper? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: using mapper purgezone T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Weisel Tech: thanx alot T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: type mapper help for the list of commands T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the mapper is awesome T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does anyone else have a problem using winkle's quest plugin (which shows quest and CP mobs in status bar) where by if you join a GQ and GQ check, the mobs dont appear (probably because its trying to put them in the status bar?) I dont know? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I use search and destroy and can't use it for quests or global quests on cp's because i can't togg T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ... only cp's because... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: S&D bugs out on me pc, so i just use Basts Hunt T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: but i have to type gq info for mob info on a GQ, and it doesnt cut it.. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: i need to be able to GQ check T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: that is my complaint with it, I was wondering if there was a better plugin T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: in place of S&D? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: If you are not in WinkleWinkle's clan, you will not have the full version of S & D, so no GQs assist, and they have the advantage. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ah so it is a dumbed down version T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: So write your own! T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: that is not my problem though... my problem is that im using Winkles Quest Status plugin and its messing with my GQ check T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: well I like it for cps T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Yep T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: robbo I lack the skill or motivation lol T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: me too T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Ah, well, that is a barrier. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: I did write my own... but for CMUD. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does anyone else use winkles quest status plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xzyth, try typing "showinfo 1" T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: hmm i turned debuggin on to T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: it was bcos my debugging was off Abe :P hehe T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: ah wait.. Abe you were right :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: how to change the font mush uses for the command bar....im typing in bold for some reason... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hmmm, dont see an option for bold tho... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "change font"... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: ahh, just had to uncheck override with default T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: thanks. that fixxed it. dunno why it was bold all of a suddon, good now. ty T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you could change it AT the default level...that's file -> global preferences, default tab T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: And decoys? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: anyone know a good mac web site builder? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Google might. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: google *blech* T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: Learning to utilize google-fu is huge. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: duckduckgo, startpage.com T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If you refuse to use Google... You're going to have a bad time. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I was hoping someone had experience with one I know search engines quite well T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: Bob! T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: what's the number to call so I can connect my dstv? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: 867-5309 T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: already wasted airtime on calling bunch of automated voice number lines,is this the proper one? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: which one korridel T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: what's a dstv? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: its satellite tv or whatever you guys call it T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalijin Tech: we call it dstv here T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Guess we just call it a satellite dish. The TV is one thing, the source of the programs another. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how can I throw a slight wait into a mush trigger? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: see google suck no replies for aardwolf goal hotel orlando walkthrough T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zanbone ) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what's a better regex for (.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?.?) to match anything 11 chars/spaces long? .?{11} ? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: /S{11} T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: .{11} :p T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: oh, and spaces, yeah what Etz said T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: needs to match "Level 2 : " or " " T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: .{11} is like .* but only 11 characters long. No more, no less. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: God, that .?.?.?.?.?.? bit was annoying. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thus my question Etzli :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you need a range, you can do .{1,11} or .{5,11} T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You're new to regexp, I take it, Oz? :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ooh... thanks for that trivia too :) can apply that in this same trigger :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sorta... i've only dabbled T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: been learning it by hitting "convert" in zmud T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods. Ranges like Etz showed are much more elegant than the .?...?, and faster. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i know how to match stuff in zscript, then i convert to look at zmuds interpritation T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud it was (???????????) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: equally as ugly :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli convulses as he shudders in disgust. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, thuse the convert AND question :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm sure there's a better way to do it in zscript too :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont think so... for 79 ~'s... i type 158 of em :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something like {Level %d%s:|}%s T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: was ~~{79} in perl regex T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that only matched 1 space T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: %s matches any number of spaces, or it should anyway T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well... it has a (*) after that T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and * was beeing too greedy T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but anyhow, regex does a MUCH better job for ths one overall :) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I updated MC to r1667 and my disarm trigger quit working. Any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so \s{1,29} for 1 to 29 spaces? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yup T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: whoot :P thanks T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: or S(1,29} for 1 to 29 non-space characters. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: \S{1,29}* T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: matching "Soften 25" or "Ballistic attack 5" spaces in between T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i'm redoing a #SUB script, to see: "Level 44 : Trauma (mental) 60 1% 357" T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: adding a new colum to spells combat T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Level Spell name Damage Mana Learned Spell# T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: daikojun: still problem? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: did you lose other triggers? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: triggers are stored in your world file. Did you copy that over when upgrading? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no all my triggers were moved over and they work. My other triggers are only my AFK trigger and highlights though T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe this trigger accidentally got marked disabled? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I imported it T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: check the "Enabled" checkbox on the trigger configuration T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: make sure it is set T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also, I know sometimes disarm triggers can be a bit complex with stored variables for weapon names and such. does it require any variable to be set like that? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it's enabled. The trigger is ^(.*?) DISARMS you$ T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The ^ is redudant in this case. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: someone just made my dis arm trigge go off! T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: really? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You have poor triggers, then. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Daikojun Tech: it's enabled. The trigger is ^(.*?) DISARMS you$ makes your trigger fire? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then your trigger is quite poor T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, if it's MUSH, then probably not. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: i have horrible triggers! but thats besides the point :) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you probably need to remove the $ at the end T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i assume there's punctuation at the end of that sentence, but don't know the message offhand T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the ^ in ^(.*) is indeed unnecessary, since .* would catch everything T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It amuses me, though, that people put a start anchor on something that matches everything. :p T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, especially since that trigger text shouldn't even fire on a real disarm :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ol' Dirty Fiendish. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: shouldn't there be a '.' at the end before the '$' T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: this trigger worked fine on r1557 T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe it got changed T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe it never worked and you had a different one that did work that didn't transfer T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that pattern that you posted would never work T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: abelinc this was your trigger. You posted it last week... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that I didn't...that ending $ makes it wrong T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so what should I use as rearm script? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: somebody DISARMS you and sends your NameOfWeapon flying! is the text... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so anything ending in "DISARMS you$" would have to fail T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pretty sure it's listed on the Aardwiki under "General -> MUD Messages" T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Book of Etzli. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's folder includes a rearm trigger and weapon switcher plugin T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: couldn't get bast's to rearm me even after populating the weapons list T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: bast has a rearm script? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: *boggle* T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes cupcake, it's swalec's weaponswitcher T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ok, I'll check that out, thanks. :) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: after you add the weapons, you must choose the one you're using T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll check it out again T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: hey people, i'm just now starting to use the mushclient, and it looks like the default windows sizes aren't filling up my screen T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is there any easy way to keep the current aspect ratio, but just make it bigger? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: or is that something i have to do manually? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: also - does the display save? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no easy way to force it to keep aspect ratio, yes the display saves, and you can lock/unlock it if you like T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i turn on parsing? so that i can just hit enter and keep moving? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: figured it out, nvm T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Scars: that's not a parsing issue T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: still having problems with Winkle's quest status plugin and typing gq check T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: it doesnt show the gq mobs... any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: spose next time ill try disable the plugin, and see if it helps T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not just open the plugin in notepad and look at it? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: scrap it and program your own, "Xzyth's Functional Quest Status Plugin" T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: i wish :D T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: Any Mac users know how I might use AppleScript (or other scripting tool) to send a command to an *existing* Terminal window? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sir Mandy Mandorallen Tech: From what I've read, every time you send a command to terminal app, it opens a new window. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In Lua, is there a one liner to play a sound? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In MUSHclient. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: didja try PlaySound? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: check out the PlaySound function T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ok, thanks T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: how can I transfer my maps to a new version of mush? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...read that page T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it explains how to move everything over T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: okies T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and if the plugin is complaining about your mush version, you can probably just change the line that says min version...I left it at the default, which is just the client I was running it under T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: line 17, change from requires="4.81" to requires="4.00" T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Adele Tech: hrm I seemed to have screwed it up T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea, refresh script was complaing of version T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: how do i stop aardmush from toggling statmon each time i switch to useing it? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: using even T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: disable the plugin that's doing it. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #1 dunno which, #2 I prolly dont wanna disable anything default to aard mush T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: pretty sure aardmush doesn't use statmon... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so far there has been a togle to toggle everything :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so it shouldnt even mess with it then T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Why do you want statmon up, if nothing uses it? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Received Telopts to turn OFF statmon. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cause i use zmud T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but i "mess" with aardmush T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Then you should probably "mess" with the code that's sending the telopts... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: prolly would ifi knew which one T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: look at the plugin names, it's probably obvious :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's real easy to find out. Just open all the plugins in notepad, then do a find for statmon. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: but really, a better way to do it would be to do the same thing in zmud T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: enable disable all tags atconnect if you use them or not T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: statmon ... You will now see tagged stats after each prompt. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: its a toggle, no on/off syntax T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there is with telopts T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: #sendprompt T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ok, how or where do i read what to send :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: help telopts :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SENDP IAC,SB,102,1,2 .... Sorry Ozzy, I don't understand you. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: don't think zmud can do it T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you need to send the actual characters, not literal strings T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: erm? heh T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: iirc iac is %char(255), sb is %char(252), se is %char(253)... but could be wrong :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/blog/2008/07/10/telnet-negotiation-control-mud-client-interaction/ T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: look it up in an ascii table T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks Goatskill T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #sendp %char(255)%char(250)%char(102)%char(1)%char(2) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: .... Sorry Ozzy, I don't understand you. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you missed iac se at the end :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud parsed out the ending char(255)char(240) on channel T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm, that's strange T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hang on, let me look up what i use :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even using the example copy/paste from that page.. error T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: this is what i used, in zmud: #SENDPROMPT %char( 255)%char( 250)%char( 102)%char( 1)%char( 1)%char( 255)%char( 240) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: from command line... Sorry Ozzy, I don't understand you. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lemme add to an alias T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Reaper Myrkul sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't see why that would make a difference T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: iacstats ... Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud not cmud right? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SENDP %char(108)%char(111)%char(111)%char(107) after hitting enter... that looks :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so can sendp stuff... just the IAC stuff is erroring T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier for now just to change TelnetOptionOff(TELOPT_STATMON) in the "GMCP Version of statmon" script :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still seems buggy for that plugin to mess with it, if ON, i could understand... but OFF? what does it care :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it prevents all the "what's all these {stats}123,456,123,365,6572,132,234?" questions T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bleh T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: didn't think they were on by default for new people T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they would've been on from any version of aardmush pre-gmcp T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should be a check, if on then off :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: on upgrade that is T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i think fiendish's suggestion of making tags only stay on for a single session was a good one T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i could live with that, onconnect(statmon) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't know what's an upgrade, though, ozzy...it only knows that it was started up and connected to aard T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would be easy enough for all clients to toggle on connect if needed/scripted T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: except it doesn't work for you for some reason :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if it were OFF on connect every time... i could issue statmon T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's true T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for now i am issuing on connect, saving the value and sending agin if off T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just thought there might be a command/toggle in the GMCP statmon plugin :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, i think it's reasonable for it to assume that you always want statmon off T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there was no need for a command/toggle though, as there's no reason to use statmon when you have gmcp ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it doesn't come with a trigger to parse statmon, so... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that just assumes everyone who trys mush will keep it T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it assumes if you're using statmon with a client, that that client knows how to turn it on T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i could use statmon in zmud 3... it don't have a clue what it is other then a line fom th mud T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'd be really impressed if zmud 3 still worked... T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but someone who is using statmon must have known how to turn it on...leaving/having it on is only dangerous/annoying for those who don't have that knowledge T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sec for screenshot on XP :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why wouldn't zmud 3 still work? T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: actually.. needa boot the windows 7 netbook T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 3.62a the A being important T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's 32 bit T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://conradshome.com/zmud/ T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, we still use a freeware program from '99 on a couple hundred XP and W7 machines at work T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is zmud 3.62a in Windows 7 :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's at least one company that uses CMud as their telnet client, bought and paid-for and all. T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://i.imgur.com/USXYV.png T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://conradshome.com/zmud_mirror updated to say it works on Windows 7 :P T3/r7/2012-08-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still wish Zugg wouldn't have lost his source/copies of zmud 1.1 :P T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: reckon I could mod the mapper to include the wait() speedwalk function without having to upgrade? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you mean in cexits, there's already a wait command implemented. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: yeah but it's in a version newer than the one I have, and I've added my own features I don't want to lose. Going to see if I can upgrade individual functions T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you probably could, but it would probably be easier to readd your own stuff to the newer version, assuming you kept a log of your changes T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just because you add the function that adds waits to cexits, it might not necessarily work, it almost definitely has other dependencies T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: another function might have been changed to get it to work, variables can change, even the database structure changes on occasion T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: yes I figured that, this thing is zig-zagged across multiple functions and files. I'll have a look at it and decide whether it's worth the trouble T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You probably want to look into using the wait module that's included. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: end result of the speedwalk function is executing a string with a \n\r concatenated list of commands. I'm going to hijack that away from execute() and run it through a processor which will split and put the rest into a temporary timer whenever it encounters a wait(x). thoughts? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient's built-in speedwalk function already puts in the delay, using the SpeedWalkDelay variable T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what Madcatz's container sort plugin used to prevent too many items in a bag from disconnecting you T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that is true, but I need to set extra-long delays at specific arbitrary points in a speedwalk. mimicing the wait() function in newer versions of the mapper T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: where can i get a autohunter plugin for mush? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bast has one irrc T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol isent there one on a website? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: make one yourself, be adventurous T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: my keyboard broke yesterday im sooo nt making one with a onschreen keyboard T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: no site? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: buy a new keyboard instead, they're not expensive... (unless you want a good one, of course) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: its funny i never get help here its always google it bla blA T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: success T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ugh it took me two hours but my speedwalks can wait now T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Just curious, when do you need a speedwalk to wait? Example? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: With my client, I could put in a delay if I needed to without bending myself over backwards, just haven't found any need. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: getting past the "hold on while I open the gate" part of kobaloi T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, now that I think of it, the reason I don't need a delay is that I wrote my mapper so that after a cexit, I need to press a hotkey to continue... T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that's also a good way of doing it T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: any key, or do you have a keypad button linked up to 'mapper resume'? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I have a specific hotkey. BTW, I'm not using mush, so it's all my own (ugly) code. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: impressive T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I wrote it when the mush mapper came out. Didn't want mush, wanted mapper. It's for tt++, but if you want a mapper today, I would go for the Ixle stuff. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: my auto hunt script doesent move after hunt i type what it sais here but no luck ah citizen T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ah mobname it hunts but doesent move T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: when you say "my", do you mean you made it or it's your copy of it? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got tht pluin from a site T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: which one? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: winklewinkle-search and destroi is its name T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol cant remember T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I haven't used S&D but the code seems to indicate that moving works. you need to have the hunt skills practiced, could that be it? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ok that's deifnitely the case, you don't have the hunt skill so you cannot hunt even with auto-hunter T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i dont have the huntskil but jet it hunts T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: so it wil work if i get hunt T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: hunt trick doesn't require hunt skill T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hunt trick and autohunt are totally different things T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i get this error xmapper move 32455 unknown omand T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: howcan i get it to move t try to but xmaper thing fails T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: okay I have no idea what xmapper is, someone else take over T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol the plugin hunts then tells xmapper to m0ve 3432 but itsais thats not a command' T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: did you install all the winkle's plugins in S&D and do you have the aardwolf mapper? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: s and d? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: search and destroy T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well i downloaded th sd scrypt on the site shoeld i install the others too T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: and you have the aardolf mush client with the mapper right? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: is there a middleman script that converts SD's "xmapper move 32455" into aardclient's "mapper goto 32455"? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well i think i have a mapper i have the normal map and anothr one with blocks that rt the room i click on T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: ok...then I don't know why it won't work T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: damn autohunter broke my mush T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is there a aardclient plug-in for auto-recasting of spellup spells to keep a spellup T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: finger bast, or winklewinkle T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: aliased spellup learned always did me well :) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: spellup learned on a hotkey is all I need T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: yeah mine is aliased to ss T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have spellup and my clan skill aliased to =, but I still use an auto-upkeep plugin (Bast's) as it sends only the necessary spells even in between individual fights, and I don't have to remember it T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i've been conditioned over years of having a zmud/cmud script be a "running spellup" ... i'd rather not re-learn a new approach T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: heya who had the bag sort plugin and could somebody walk me quickly how to add it? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: madcatz T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: do you know where i could find it? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone know hpow to move a plugin window on mush if you put the bar off screen T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: how far off the screen? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: its a gui for campaigns and targets 1 through 6 cannot be seen T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on the plugin T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably has some sort of reset command T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod, found it in the helps thanks T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Nocturnus: hmm.. first google hit for 'madcatz container sort' T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: done i'm at a google doc for it now T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: still there fiendish? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i'm at a google doc for the madcatz container plugin, anybody know how i get that here? =) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: "You'll need to save this file, and then rename to to a .xml file." T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: hrm how do i save it? yes i'm a script/plugin/etc noob T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: file . download as . plaintext T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: okie, sec T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: and then save as Container_Sort.xml instead of Container_Sort.txt? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: exactly T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: okie, sec T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: under Save as Type do I keep it at text document or go to all files? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: erm T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the other "File" T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: it's all files. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: right now i have file name Container_Sort.xml and under that is Save as Type T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: which gives me options of text document or all files T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: save as type "all files" T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you're being asked I think you're doing this wrong T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: That will make it save as whatever extension you put in the name field T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: no i'm not being asked T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: for some reason the container sort plugin isnt working for me, its not getting the items or sorting them, it says it is but nothing happens T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: alright after download do i select open, open folder, or close? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: ...what? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I'm assuming he's talking about the browser prompt. I'd open folder. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: download complete T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: yeah browser prompt T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: alright i have the container sort in my documents T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: now how do i get it from my documents to here? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish wonders how you even manage to get online. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: Nocturnus: move the file into MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/ T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i know nothing about mudding except how to actually play i fully admit this T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then in MUSHclient go to File->Plugins... T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: alright how do i move the file to mushclient/worlds/plugins/ T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nocturnus ducks defensively. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: i can take it from there! =p T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: with your fingers T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nocturnus ruffles Ol' Dirty Fiendish's hair playfully. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocturnus Tech: well thanks for trying, i hit madcatz up with a personal note to hopefully walk me through it lol, ugh i'm so terrible at this T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, i asked this yesterday, but i don't remember the answer ... the display setup i have i like, how do i "lock" it? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i can't seem to find that anywhere T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: aard layout lock T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i just type that? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: wow, how about that T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_lock_my_layout_so_that_I_don%27t_accidentally_drag_m T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: anywhere T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sweet - second question... is there a way to force an aspect ratio? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: bummer T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: all miniwindows are resized individually T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: nods, i wish i could "attach" them to each other T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so if i have the 2 mapper windows side by side, they always move together T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: yeah, no way to do that at present T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: no biggie, like i said, i'm happy with the layout now, so it doesn't matter to me :) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: while the topic is up, how come when I follow all the directions on the site for an upgrade, my mini window layout doesnt get moved over right? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: your layout is stored in individual plugin state files. you have to copy the states over T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: each plugin only keeps track of its own position T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: (this is also why you can't lock windows together) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: one of these days i'll figure out how to use the mapper :P T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: one of the reasons I go so long between upgrades is because each time I have to spend a lot of time putting al my windows where I want them, changing colors of heath bars, resetting all my fonts, etc T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mapper help T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: meh mapper isn't really useful T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish chuckles at Ontuct's joke. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I never did see the point of upgrading for the sake of upgrading. If it works, why bother? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: lol ... It is well worth the time figuring it out. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: oh dear, starling T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: because I add new features and fix bugs. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling shrugs in response to Tigernuts's question. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: i do a copy all for the states folder then paste them into the states folder for the new one. doesnt do it T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you've just destroyed the software and hardware industry T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well done :-) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Cera: mushclient has to be closed while you do this T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: alright, so... another former cmud/zmud user question... i really liked how i could scroll up with a split screen.. do i have that option with the mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I get a major upgrade after a long time interval, that much is obvious T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there can be a time when your PC is on and Mushclient isn't active? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: nod, i know. I'm not doing it right now. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: (8heh ontuct) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Scars: sorry, no split screen. I kept intending to write that, but never did. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Scars: sorry, no split screen. I kept intending to write that, but never did. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I should add it to a list somewhere T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's okay, the "more" at the bottom is pretty helpful and quick way to get back to "real time" as it were T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: keep reminding me and one of these days... T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shout-out "thank you" to zugg for failing to fix the cmud zugg bugs and drive yet more users to mush :( T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: ctrl+End gets you all the way down T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'm not convinced that failing to fix cmud and zmud bugs is actually what gets people to switch T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well, two things did it for me... both have equal weight... #1 Lost all of my settings due to my own screw up. #2 I don't code my own scripts anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: for me it was the advantage to stop having to run bootcamp.. I switched to mudlet. then I found out I could run mush on my mac without bootcamp, so I switched it this T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: i went with mushclient because it was there. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: oh, i didn't realize that this was mac compatible - that's encouraging since we'll be buying a macbook in the near future (around xmas time) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: and I LOVE all the miniwindows. the layout is awesome T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tigernuts gasps as he realizes what Scars did. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: blood traitor T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: its not perfect scars, but it works. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: nothing is perfect T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: it helps if you have new versions of Wine though instead of the quite old precompiled binary I have on the download page T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: eh, having used zmud or cmud for the last 13 years, it's going to take me a long, long time to get used to this T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: speak for yourself Fiendish. (*smirk*) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I'd been using zmud for many years before switching to mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: oh Fiendish.. when I upgraded to Mountain Lion, my mush broke. I had to upgade my X11. was weird. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: that makes sense to me T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: at least it told me so was a faily easy fix. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but only because the Wine on mac situation is kind of...strange T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: is it a gmcp limitation that prevents me from being able to see every mob i'm fighting in the "status" ? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: mostly the wine development team doesn't have anyone who uses a Mac who wants to be their package maintainer T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: Scars: currently yes T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thought so, thanks again T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I think there were plans for an enemygroup at some point T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: but it may have been sidelined T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: it's a "nice to have thing" that should take a backseat (like, in the trunk) in comparison to things like subclass development T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fiendish Tech: I have to run. I'll probably be back in an hour or so. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks for your help fiendish T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: so, you mapper users out there... if i go through the trouble of matching up portals to rooms and such, will the mapper automatically take me the shortest route, including portal dropoffs? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: <-- has never really used mapper T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: As far as I can remmeber from what xan told me, Scars, Yes. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Noro Tech: As far as I can remmeber from what xan told me, Scars, Yes. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, so the natural followup question is when i want to run to an area (lets just say first room), i'd need to use the mapper to do that, right? and tell it to take me to room # or something? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: what i used to do on zmud/cmud was have an alias i typed, liek fens, and it'd grab my portal and drop me off, but i manually wrote that alias T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you still need to write an alias to use portals T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, that just makes sense though T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, that combined with mapper help and i should be able to stumble my way through this T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I used a lot of advice from here ... http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you use Winkle's mapper extender you can mark other room as as first room T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i.e. that one that portal leads to T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: shouldn't i be able to tell the mapper to take me to whatever room i want? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: scars try the link I just posted T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there is difference if you want to get to specific room and if you want to get to first room in area T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: i.e. mapper goto room 12200 will use portal regardless of what first room for that area is T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: okay, so i wanted to use a trigger to call an alias, in zmud/cmud i would just type the alias in the "send this" part of the trigger... no such luck with mush... halp!? :) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if you want to get to area then you use xrt fens instead runto fens - then first room is important T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: set to execute T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: thanks thanks! T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Hulu = Evil. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: now do i turn on the 256 colors? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: for the extended colors T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: on mush T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: sorry :P that could have all been one line T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sammael Tech: tried xterm? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: blah, thanks, somewhere along the line i turned it off T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sammael Tech: :) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: okay, if i want to make a "wink"-face with mush, how do i get that to happen... when i just tried, it acted like i wanted to send a multi-line command T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: use ;; instead of ; T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type ";tech here is a wink face ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: tech here is a wink face ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: wow, okay, that'll take some getting used to T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: thanks :D T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starting a line with ; makes that line ignore all other ;s T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as huan says, you can double a ; to make that ; be sent normally as well T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: abe, could you shoot me a tell real fast-like T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why can't you shoot him a tell real fastlike? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: he's invis and i am nublet without detect invis T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Aard helms ftw. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chogall Tech: mine's level 3, ftl T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 1k qp gets it to level 1. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why bother for the two lowest levels in the entire game? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: almost nobody remembers them actually being there, they go so fast. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you were gonna do that, you'd just q sell for 700 and buy new for 1100 T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: end up with the same helm for 400 more instead of 1k more T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: js issue..Math.floor((Math.random()*2)) should work quite well but too often it produces an army of 0s or 1s. the record was 19 0s in a row. the array lenght is 21 so something is messed up here. any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Math.random() generates a number between 0 and 0.99999 right? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seperate out your Math.random()*2 to a previous line and check on it T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: also try Math.random()*2.0 T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Yep... check the number before you floor it. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: ok. thanks T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Run-time error \\ Plugin: ClanStats (called from world: Aardwolf) \\ Immediate execution \\ [string "Trigger: Rank6Trig"]:1: attempt to index field 'Ani' (a nil value) \\ stack traceback: \\ [string "Trigger: Rank6Trig"]:1: in main chunk T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: from the script at the bottom of: http://mikeride.chaosnet.org/abelinc/scripts/ T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anything obvious why someone else is getting those errors? ran fine for me T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Gah, can't seem to ssh anywhere on my box. Not really sure which device to configure to let this through :/ T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Interesting, never thought of using nc to look at SSH traffic before. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: when I right click on a room in mush that has a cexit, I cant see it.. how can I delete a messed up cexit? T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HellSpawn Nasus Tech: Mapper help. T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: "mapper delete cexits" T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Has apple remove youtube from the iphone yet? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: my autohunter doesent work it sends the comand xmapper move 25938 then the mud returns that is not a command please help T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "my autohunter" is.. not very specific. its one you wrote yourself? using someone elses? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Have you installed all of Winkle's scripts? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: to one winkle scrypt the s$d one thhe top one doesent want to work on my mush brings up error message T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: maybe it's a sign. just play without it for a while. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: could you theoretically make a planes-escaper that takes random exits until it finds the room ID you arrived in? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: or would that be entering into botting territory T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I guess it's not really different to an autohunter T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't see that being much different from a autohunt script, but I would check with a imm, it is kind of borderline imho T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I think I will not go ahead with that one T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: the problem with that is that the planes mobs can aggro you... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: so you are using to automatically walk between aggro's (albeit that was not the original intent) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: bah - using a script - you know what I meant :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I see your point T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Any script would have to abort if aggroed, that applies to autohunt as well. Haven't seen any autohunt scripts, but I assume they abort when you get aggroed. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Considering that you're stopped, most of the time, they do since the trigger line doesn't fire next. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stylish Styliann Tech: besides there are easy ways to navigate the planes :) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic nods at Book of Etzli. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: You get the message about not being able to hunt while fighting. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Dispel Majic. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you know the order of the planes by layer, you can navigate it a bit more easily. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: can i buy somebody elses database or is it ilegan . like rooms explored T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ilegal T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: define 'buy' T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: Spyinfo : Lasher takes out his nuker and marks Topbilling's head. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: like for gold on aard i ask coz i dont want to get nuked T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if somoene wants to sell it to you, then it's fine. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Besides, it can't be monitored, regardless. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: o ok coz i got a offer for a database with 98% explored for verry cheap T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I didn't know 98% explored was even possible T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then that would make 100% impossible, which is just ridiculous. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: manors don't count as explorable rooms? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: rank 15. :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Rooms can be marked noexplore. Manor areas are all noexplore. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i take it a full database will help alot with a autohnter? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really, Topbilling. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Autohunters don't rely on databases. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: auto-hunt-tricker perhaps T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: but it will have the rooms i dont now coz when i try autohunt in an area i havent explored i cant find the room as oposed to one i have 1005 on T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: people dont give databases away do they? lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if your autohunt won't work in an area you have'n explored you have a bad autohunt T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im using a s&d T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: so yeah, i also installed S&D a month ago when i started playing.. and had the same xmapper problems.. anyway.. re enabled it now ( the tripple pack) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: .... what a joke :P lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i also had the same prob but somehow i googled winklewinkle aardwolf plugins and the s&d there works 100% T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: Type 'go ' or click link, to go to that room T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: miss T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: top billing did you figure it out? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: almost thing is i have a s$d but sometimes when i try to find a mob it sais that room not found can it be because i dont have it explored? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: thats exactly why yeah T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: si if i buy a database with 98% explored it wont do it anymore? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: it will only find rooms you have explored, so the more you explore, the better T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: ROFL, umm.... i suppose not no :/ T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: why? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: when you buy a database won't you get a problem with portals? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: no idea T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: portals would be a problem im sure.. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tought so too T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: how do you meen? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: unless u had the portals in your inv.. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the database will most likely use portals to get to the destination. If you don't have them it'll fail T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: thanks for telling me T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tsloth's Tsarikos Tech: solution? don't be lazy and build up your own mapper database. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: well i dont think it would fail completely, it may look for the the quickest run route, or you may have to runto dungeon first T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... another solution ... get more portals :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: probably easier to change a few portals than map 98% of the mud T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: buying a mapper should be considered cheating :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: lol now im lost lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there a way to assign a room a nickname ? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: like room 30525 where you can get potions in bard clan hall ... assigning a nickname bardpots to make it easier to remember T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: make an alias T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that will make an awful clutter of aliases :/ T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how many Lua coders are here atm? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I dabble T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm looking to add commas to my Gold amount in the aard_statmon_gcmp.xml file. I'm curious how to add the commas() function from commas.lua to the following line: {text=string.format("%s",gmcpval("worth.gold")), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]}, T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm not sure of the Lua syntax. I haven't spent any real time studying it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: require "commas" and commas(gmcpval("worth.gold")) ? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: i would try just wrapping gmcpval("worth.gold") with commas() and if that fails, then put require "commas" somewhere T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so after the "%s," section? commas.lua is required in that xml already T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: {text=string.format("%s",commas(gmcpval("worth.gold"))), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]}, T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: string.format works like ("%s", "exact text to replace %s with") T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I'll try that. Thanks for the insight T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: no probs, gnight T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: hmmm, no commas in gold amount. Any other Lua coders in here atm? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you want? :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm trying to utilize commas.lua in aard_statmon_gcmp.xml to format the gold amount to include commas. I'm not sure of where to put the commas() function in the string. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do you have a commas function to even use? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it's in the default lua folder and it is required in the xml file T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: Daik, i just copied the line scurvy typed and replaced the exisiting with it - worked fine. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Using your default script prefix (usually \\\, I think, in MUSH), try printing commas(12345) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, try commas(tonumber(gmcpval("worth.gold"))) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It could be that gmcpval reports a string and not as a numeric type. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Although looking at the commas.lua file, it shouldn't matter. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm not getting any commas. Should I move the commas.lua file into the plugins directory? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It shouldn't matter. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The Lua path will check the Lua subfolder for matches. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: here's my line. Is my syntax right? {text=string.format("%s",commas(gmcpval("worth.gold"))), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]}, T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know if that syntax is right for whatever you're trying to do in MUSH, but if the commas(12345) didn't spit anything out, then it's not recognizing the commas function. Have you tried: print(commas) to see if it returns a function type? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: running to a quick meeting. Let me know if it looks right and what else to check. Thanks guys T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, I'm going to sleep. But if print(type(commas)) does not return 'function' then there's an issue there. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: Daik, for when you get back - yes, you're line is identical to mine. Issue must be elsewhere, as Etzli says. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jalarai Tech: meh. your* (before the nazis commnet :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: say i bought a database how would i install it? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ask the person you bought it from T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: as luck woulod have it he is linkdead lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: back T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how can I make rbid stuff show up in the communication log pane? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how/where do I do a "print(type(commas))" test? do I write a script with just this in it? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click comm window T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: capture other info, rauction T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: print(type(commas))? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Hi Abel. I'm working on adding commas to the gold amount in aard_statmon_gcmp.xml. My syntax is correct but I get no commas. I want to test if commas.lua is being called. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: commas() is a function, and you must include the commas.lua file T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: abe i have gotten a mush mapper database how would i go about installing it? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: topbilling: You walk the areas to explore :-) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: commas.lua is included in Fiendish's script. Others have verified that the syntax is correct in {text=string.format("%s",commas(gmcpval("worth.gold"))), textcolour=data_colors["Gold"]}, T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: yah but i have the database now how do i install it? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as far as I'm concerned, topbilling, you don't T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: figured it out. I was only adding commas to the stacked=1 section, not both orientations T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: can somebody please help me i bought this database and i tried installing it but i think im doing it wrong can somebody please help me i payed all my gold?tps for it please T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: its a mapper database T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: please guys its 1 file aardwolf.db i dont know how to get it to work T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I would assume you copy it like you would in the client update notes on the website T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got it via email and i deleted all files in the mush folder and downloadede the file ito that folder but i only have my normal explored and the mapper is thesame the new file is like 18mb T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but it does not increase explored number, just mapper have more rooms T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i get that but mapper also doesent have more rooms T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Why do you want your mapper to have more rooms T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: can you enable/disable a trigger in MC from the commandline? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: and how do you know it has no more rooms than your original mapper? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: to make the pluggin work better T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you want more rooms for campaigns and gquests T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: Which plugin T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daiko: \\\EnableTrigger("Triggername", 0) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that will disable the trigger with the name (label) of Triggername T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: moral of the story: don't buy mapper databases...you want a mapper database, get off your ass and explore :-) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: awesome thank you. I was thinking of making a trigger to QUIT when my quest timer has hit 0 T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: buying a mapper database? that sounds like it'd be on the wrong side of policies T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (or at least get off your ass enough to read how to migrate mapper databases, directions for which are right on aard's main website) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: then again an you enable/disable timers the same way? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: well said =D T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: typ, there's EnableTrigger, EnableTimer, EnableTriggerGroup, etc T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: where can I get info on commandline options like these for MC. Without getting off my ass of course... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that should've started "Yup"* T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: help->function list T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helps are very good in mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They're just regular functions. You can call any of them from the command line T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "\\\" at the start of a line means "treat this as a script to run" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's defined (and can be changed by you) as your "script prefix" in settings T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: says the help file isn't available T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm runnig r1667 snapshot T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you running Vista/W7? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't install helpviewer by default T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: win7 64. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607 for details, including links to the downloads T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that the one from mickeysoft's site? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: beat me to it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of the helps are also available as html files in a zip, and are viewable as html directly on mushclient's site T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that helpview was already installed. I thought I did for another app once. I'll go to MC's site for them T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if that's installed, then you have everything you need... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking on the helpfile in the mushclient folder and going to properties...see if there's an "unblock" button T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the same setting that can cause Windows to ask if you really want to open MUSHclient itself every time you click on it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: when using potionquafferv2 how do i make sure it is able to see the pots in my bag ? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use aard-side page scroll, make sure that the potion names & descs are set...type "pquaff help" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: do a lot of people use an amulet of aard for quicker routes? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if by "a lot of people" you mean pretty much everyone that's not a nub, yes :-) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: lol :) Abe i wuv u T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: YOU GOT A! Wittle giggles. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you want good speedwalks, yes. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other advantages to it are the ability to get to a healer for a dissolve, and 12 stats in a level 1 item isn't too shabby T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: true true :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: potionquaffer plugin how do i make the plugin see my potions ? it isnt finding them T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tech -h 15" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ive done the part of setting the potion names T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming it's the one I used like 5 years ago: did you set the bag, and then type pots? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And what happens when you type pots? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i even get the messages ...(Group) Imalish: 'I have 0 Heal Pots Total! (Potion_Quaffer Plugin)' T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you set both the name and the desc for the pots? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "noobjl" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pattern does not look like the level is optional T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: no good T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: PotionQuaffer: Heal Potion = melody PotionQuaffer: Heal Description = (Magic) (Hum) Soothing Melody (40) PotionQuaffer: Heals Remaining = 0 T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it's still the same version of the one I used, I think the format of the level, or something about how items are shown had changed since the plugin was written. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, don't put the magic, hum, etc into the desc T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Pretty sure you don't need to do the flags T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just Soothing Melody T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have your potions in a bag? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: When you type pots, does it show your regular inventory or the contents of the bag? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: removed all tags ... magic/hum and level same deal T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: shows contents of bag T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: got 40 heal and 35 mana pots in bag T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: here is what is is for the elixir, mine is set to: PotionQuaffer: Heal Description = Jade Elixir T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think the format for the number of items might have changed. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I remember something changed a few years ago T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you don't need flags, you don't need level, where did you get the plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... :P i got it from your site when i asked about them T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, I don't think that's the one that I used to use, then T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: where does that potion come from?, I can't find it on potsearch T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: potsearch cure crit T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bard's level 40 heal pot T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "healdesc Soothing Melody" works for me, can you try it with shortflags toggled? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: they show up with short flags T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and it shows the inventory of the bag when you type "pots"? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: lots of portals in my bag so a touch spammy T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you put any spaces at the end of "Soothing Melody"? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nope T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: please type this one more time and then try again "healdesc Soothing Melody" (without the quotes) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: kk so those show up T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: what about touchstone's mana pot ? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: same setup as the one I just told you, you just need the potion name T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "ident "...copy the part just after Name :, paste it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: (>Touchstone<) Green Garnet Gem Extract T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make sure you don't include any spaces at the beginning or the end of the potion though T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: why doesent my aarwolf.db file want to work T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... top you may have gotten screwed :/ ... easiest just to build mapper's room db yourself T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well the file is larger like 15mb but it doesent work T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: now im worce off my mapper is stock!! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just because the file is larger doesn't mean there's more rooms in it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think I know why it's not working, but I don't see why you should benefit from it :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: copy one of the backup files over the corrupted one T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Bast, he can't he just bought the mapper file T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the one that "doesn't work" is one that he bought from another player... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, he has backups from his previous one, i assume T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: unless he deleted the backups T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and he deleted everything rather than just moving them T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: hahahaha, awesome, missed that part of the convo T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, that was stupid :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: err. ouch. sorry bout no backups.. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i dont have backup fieles and abe please i payed all the gold i had for it please T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's whatcha get for trying to take the easy way out/shortcuts :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: can reinstall and get that db though. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he can't get his old one back, if he really deleted it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: just unzip and put it somewhere and pull out the db file. empty but... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: go get a new mush install. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he said the one he has now is stock T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: you guys are seposed to help not be nasty i payed 17mil all i had T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: ah. k. well, i'm coming in late. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a new mush install is where he should've put the bought db, leaving his existing install intact ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: probably yup. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: well, 17 million is no big deal. go earn it back. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: and lesson learned. not sure there's much we can do about the lost db. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: To be short Topbilling, I think you're screwd and lost the mapper T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: did you lose the one you got? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im new at this this is why am asking for help T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're new at cheating? :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, 17 mil isn't much, a good mapper db would sell for hundreds of millions T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: how is it cheating? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: My mapper DB rocks ass. If you use it with SnD, everything is instant. And I'm not selling it for a single penneh. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im not here for your shitty coments you are seposed to help and afry one of you have made a mistake and you dident get craped out! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: i couldnt even get Cera's mapper to work for cupcake, and I am both, so I did all the work. :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm supposed to help? Oh REALLLLY now T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: watch the language, too T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: ... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: they don't have to help you and being a jerk doesn't help your case, topbilling T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Topbilling: It is quite easy to build a DB by yourself :) Just map out every area you get to. It takes about 5 minutes. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: who on earth did he buy it from? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: Plus, by doing it you'll learn each area fairly well, and not worry about having everything in your mapper db. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: we are not SUPPOSED to help T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: using the mapper doesn't mean you don't need to know the area i've found . T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: it takes far from 5 minutes in the later zones T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: run here, get this, wear that, sit down, stand up, fondle a duck, climb a rope, put a feather in your hat, poof now the door is open T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Darkwing Duckbat fondly fondles Tangel. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: hehe :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: frakking ducks! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: NO U DON'T UNDERSTAND I DESERVER ALL UR DATABASE T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't be elitist, send me ur mapz! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: besides, mappers will be nerfed soon. You will only need to explore 70% of the rooms in an area to get the complete map if you are T0,T1 or T2. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok is there maby a website i can download a ok db not awsum but better than stock pst i have 1mil left ill pay for help T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: lol, a whole million? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Sorry Topbilling, Only dbase is the stock one. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i lost my other gold T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: topbilling: the mapper tells you what rooms you still have to explore...use that to explore areas to get further than the stock T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok so I don't think I'm getting this weapon switcher script setup right. I'm using Bast's aardwolfweaponswitch. I have set my w1=axe and w2=dagger and using w1. It still doesn't rearm when disarmed. What am I missing? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: its really not the end of the world to make your own DB, im making my own and it works well combined with the CP/Quest add-on thing I fly through campaigns and quests T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: sure I have a lot of errors from passing through doors i should have made exits for, but still works better/faster than just running around with nothing T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you type "w list" it says that your current is axe? how/where are you getting disarmed? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hey bast when after i got your plugins something odd started popping up ... every time i kill a cp mob it shows the cp check twice :/ any clue why it does this and how i can disable it ? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably have two plugins that do the same thing loaded T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe a bast and a winkle, or two of bast's that do the same thing T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Current Weapon = 'axe'. Last time I got disarmed was this morning and I forget the mob T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is disarming different per mob? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you loaded every plugin from the folder, I don't remember which ones overlap at this point. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I remember when I had to type "Wield " after being disarmed... those were the days... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's different if it's a special disarm and not a real disarm...some MOBs program their disarms T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i tried disabling each of the ones that mention cps and still did it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have a 'wa' alias set for wield axe lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: and I don't have my gloves yet :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have any other plugins installed beside mine and the standard ones? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I had a DISARMS you trigger set but it quit working at some point as well. Must be mob related T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: copy color output, container sort, 3moons, the default ones, winkles,and yours T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's and bast's are probably both doing it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: winkle also has a campaign plugin, so his overlaps with mine T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: by the way Abel, I figured out what I was doing wrong with my commas issue. I have only changed the 'stacked=1' section, not both. It's working fine T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I saw you mention that, glad it's good to go :-) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks for the help T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: nah i had winkles before basts ... a few days/weeks ... and it only showed the modified snd cp list on cptarg kill T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm using bast's events miniwin and winkle's S&D T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm using Trurien's 10-finger CP assistant. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: hunting in mapped areas is a breeze T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Some people call it a keyboard. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Looks like Sit like a Trurien is lying again. Time to let everyone know! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah that took me a sec lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien shrugs in response to your question. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I think 30 minutes for an SH CP is fast, you think I'm lying? :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, Trurien sold topbilling the database, I knew it! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I would have given him money to take my solution :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: note to the techs: do not keep MC on dropbox. It messes up state files. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: unless you pause syncing while the client is running T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: where would i add an alias that has been already made? but its in code? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: do you mean edit? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can have more than one alias with the same name if they're in different plugins... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: can you Reinstall a plugin from the commandline? The bast events miniwin blacks out at times. Reinstalling fixes it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: usually restarting mush fixes it too T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: so.. randomly today this screen started poppigng up to register my computer which i've had for a few years, any idea how to make it stop showing up? it doesn't respond to clicking any of the links T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: sounds like a scam T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: malware bytes?> T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: and run it in safe mode T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What kind of 'screen' ? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: it looks like a legit dell restration screen T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: run the MB chameleon on it. Best in the business. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: level T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: just did a print screen not sure where I can post it for everyone to see T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: imgur.com works T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: any free image hosting site will work T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: take a look at this Arystul http://en.community.dell.com/dell-groups/new-to-community/f/3511/t/19272174.aspx T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: I just upgraded MUSH (finialy) and I bought 50 jades, and I got 50 lines, all like this "{invitem}853197149,MH,Jade Elixir,60,8,1,-1,-1" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: how do I not see that? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I capture info to put in a miniwindow? I want to make a board mssage count monitor. I need a good resource for this type of script/plugin. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Cupcake, I'm looking it up, but I imagine it's one of the tags bits... but normally one of the addons catches/consumes that line T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cupcake, it's "invmon"... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: thanks abe.. but what do I do? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to not see it, either type invmon to turn it off, or load in an inventory plugin that uses it (bast's eqdb, for example) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: type invmon T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ah, ok. tthanks T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plugins that use tags, also hide them so you don't see them T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: should I check out bast's eq plugin? I dont currently use any eq plusin T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd check out all his stuff by reading the pages on each plugin on the wiki tab of his site, to decide if you want to try 'em T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ok T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daikojun: we've discussed the multiple ways to go about this already, including pros and cons of each...you can either try to increment/decrement counters as you read notes/new ones come in, or you can have it periodically type "board" to cap that output, or a combination of the two, such that it sending board re-sync's... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for just straight capturing to miniwin, I'd copy the ascii map plugin and change its pluginID... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: My loss is how to capture the output of the boards. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is it normal for companies to prevent (non-administrative) users from /reading/ anything from the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry tree? it seems a bit irregular to me, and, although i can work around it in my own code, i'm a bit hesitant to hack an external API my program calls because of it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not beyond the realms of possibility T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: prevents people installing software T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Restricting programs from reading the registry defeats a lot of the purpose the registry... most programs that require installation in the OS store some values in the registry T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun: that's why I suggest copying the ASCII map plugin...that's what it does...everything between START and END gets captured T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: well, write access would prevent installs.. read access seems excessive (in my case, i call an HP function that stores path information there) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah, I'm seeing that now. Thanks for the help, Abel T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: your welcome T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye nods at Xantcha. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye: if your thing is an installed thing, have the installer set perms on its portion of the HKLM/software/foo T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why it seems weird to me T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hmm.. suppose that is possible, but not necessarily maintainable since i'm referencing another program's entries as well (they could change things) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: will try that abelinc.. thanks T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: how would one map something like necro guild? where you have to be taken down by a zombie first? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: just wait it out then type mapper resume I guess T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Check out the goal.. might make that part ezier faster T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Only thin I have found that truly stops the mapper... is a good random exit maze.. or random exits with portals T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: everything else can cexitd or use a goal to help with. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I see the issue with bast's disarm script and me. It doesn't know that I'm holding an Aard axe. How do I tell it that? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shouldn't need to know that ahead of time, it has a separate trigger for regular weapon disarm and aardweapon disarm T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I dont think that is the issue. An aardweap give a different disarm message. The plugin also triggers on that T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: on disarm, it sends 'wear all' T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: instead of wield T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: wear all also wields weapons T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wear is fine T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: well it didn't wear my axe :/ T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it does if I type it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: because its looking for you to be disarmed by a mob as far as i know.. not yourself T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it'll only use "wear all" or "wield all" if it doesn't have a "weapon1" value T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Actually I think I have the same problem so I know what you mean. I'll look into it next time I get disarmed. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no what I'm saying, when the script sends 'wear all' it didn't wear my axe T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: i remember mine didnt wield either Daiko... :/ T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you have a weapon1 value, then it specifically types wield weaponname T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you actually being disarmed for these tests, or are you trying to test it on your own in some way? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Weapon 1 = 'axe' Weapon 2 = 'dagger' Current Weapon = 'axe' T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I was being disarmed by Stone Gladiators T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you received the message "A Stone Giant Gladiator DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon!" ? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: idk, the script code looks simple enough. I just don't see why it's not working. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll have to go test it again to see exactly the words T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and did the plugin echo this to your screen?: DISARMED - Attempting to ReArm! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scroll up, or look in logs... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes it did say that. followed by 'wear all' T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: wow u just set off all my triggers abe :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only place that "wear all" is in the script is in the branch where (1) it was NOT an aard disarm, and (2) there is no cweap T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok totally noobin' out here. My log only shows chat. Is my main window being logged anywhere by default? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at game -> configure -> logging T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there any way of not saving changes i have just made? lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there anyway to change an existing mapped portals keyword name? instead of redoing everything? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: mapper help portals T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes, you can change the alias and then change the portal name that mapper calls? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: get sqlite.exe and you can mess with anything... mapper interface only allows you to delete a portal and record it again, as far as I know T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: can anyone help me with an alias quickly? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: can anyone explain to me why you would have to put the level of a portal into the mapper? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: because you can't hold it before then, obviously T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: so it knows not to use it when you're not high enough level T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: I'd guess so that it knows when it can start using it to find shortest paths. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: so it doenst try to use it whne you're too low level T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: haha doh :P obviously T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: heh T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: have a brain fart there? :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: either that or.... :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is there an auto-afk plugin for mush? one that keeps spells up as well T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: probably T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there was one a long time ago. I'm sure you can find it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How can you tell whether or not your iPhone 4S is CDMA or GSM? I don't really know that CDMA is, but I'm having my screen replaced and apparently the CDMA and GSM models have different screen sizes. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're mistaken, Apple products do not fail T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Googling my model number gets me conflicting statements on what kind of phone it is. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if they have different screen sizes, you could probably measure it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can't you take it apart and get a part number? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: Which country are you in? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Sweden. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: Do you have a SIM card? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: A Prince Runner-like site seems to imply that it's CDMA, but I still don't know what the heck CDMA is. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes. I have one of those mini (micro?) sim cards. It has the little tray that slides out if you poke a thin needle-like thing into a hole. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: if you have a SIM card then it is GSM. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doews tha mean it's GSM? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: It's a crappy version of W-CDMA. Think of it as a 3G standard. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: CDMA do not have SIM cards. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: Fiendish is right., T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what do they use instead? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is hard wired in the cellphone. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I guess there's no real reason cdma couldn't use a sim card, though T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So my iPhone 4S is a GSM phone using W-CDMA? But for the purposes of differentiating between CDMA and GSM, it's to be classified as GSM? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: why do you say it's "using W-CDMA"? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because that's what some sites are telling me. Also ElFeneri. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: CDMA does not exist in Sweden. So what good would it be to have CDMA-modems in phones sold there? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently, there is no 64 gB version of the CDMA model of iPhone 4S? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: i've never heard of a cdma phone with a sim card anyway T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Not to mention, why own an iPhone anyway? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: There's no need for sim-card in CDMA-networks T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I don't agree that there's no need. You may want contact portability without cloud storage. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh well, that clinches it. I just wanted to make sure so I didn't buy a useless conversion/replacement kit. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Well, let's put it this way. It's not needed to have a sim-card in those networks. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently, there are CDMA phones with sim cards, mainly used in China. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Those would be TD-SCDMA? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yuna: That is not CDMA. They are R-UIM. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: in China they have yet another version of the 3G networks. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is equivalent, but not the same. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So many region specific variations of pretty much anything related to electronics. Why not just have a world standard? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The reason I would guess CDMA is used by Verizon and Sprint is to keep people from flipping between cellphones and locking them into that phone through the contract. In addition, individuals have to buy their CDMA cellphones. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Standard is good. Everyone should have their own. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: for the same reason europe use metric while the US doesn't :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Because the U.S. is stupid like that. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I heard that they are converting to metric system in UK. Inch by inch. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The Imperial System is one of the most arbitrary and stupid systems of measurement ever. It has no rhyme or reason. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: very droll, ElFeneri T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: No, Verizon was smart like that and uses it to their advantage. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: metric is good for science, and for lazy and arithmetically inept people T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "A kind once decreed that there should be a measurement equal to the length of his foot and, thus, the foot was born". T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I think the U.K. uses both Metric and Imperial? Don't they have "bi-lingual" road signs or something? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: imperial and similar units existed because they were useful measures of the time for the purposes they were used for T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, road signs are in miles and mph T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Yes, but they are severely outdated now and outclasses by the Metric System. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that statement is a fallacy T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Metric is more exact then US Customary anyway. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: but the real answer to your question probably is that it'd be too expensive to make a country change their whole infra structure just to make all phones have the same type of network :) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outdated would imply that their usefulness ended T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: outclassed implies metric is better for the purposes they are used for T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Ashiya, sure is, but when a new generation is born - why keep up the diversity? :) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: neither statement is true T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: because you build on what you already have T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Ashiya, that's why it's called a new generation. It's not built on previous standard. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I suppose then it's not convenient to have the same standard in every country T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Good Idea: Metric! Bad Idea: US Customary! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: differing standards in different countries enables there to be control over what is sold where T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Of course it's convenient. But some companies want to develop their own version of the standard. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why you have 5 dvd regions T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: sure, it also enables you to crash probes into mars T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Why they still teach the US standard system.. is a good question x.X T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: different TV standards T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am going to get a All region DVD player. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: imperial is hardly the "US" standard system T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i'd imagine they teach US Standard in US because it's used there T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: learning non-standard measurements is an excellent way to teach young kids arithmetic T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: I think it helps the upper class to keep an economic division. If someone cant calculate there crazy messed up measuring system.. they can only do grunt work. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: and according to Bush it's very good, they have the best educated americans in the world :) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I find US Customary to used so we are not Great Britian. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: quite honestly it's not at all difficult to calculate in whichever system you're raised using. just like the russian alphabet is weird if you're used to a latin alphabet but totally normal if you're, say, russian. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you want convoluted, check out UK currency prior to 1970 T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1 pound = 20 shillings T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: 12 pence in a shilling, twenty shillings in a pound, what's not to love? it provided fodder for torturing generations of primary school children with sums :D T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1 shilling = 12p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Majic, the Metric system is more effective than the Imperial system. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The US has a 1/2 cent. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there existed 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/12, and 1/24 of a pennies T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there also existed 2p, 3p, and 6p coins T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: For example, ask someone to convert 12 kilometers to meters and it'll take only a split second. Ask them to convert 12 miles to feet and it'll take them much longer. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There exists $2 bill US. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as well as 1 shilling coin (bob) 2 shilling (florin) 2s 6p (half crown) 5s (crown) and many others T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: If we go a step further (12 kilometers to centimeters vs. 12 miles to inches), the time difference will be much higher. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: There's a coin named after me? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: BobTheGreat beams with pride. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Also, I meant to say efficient, not effective, obviously. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bob, you were a planet, but they renamed it. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: people still use "bob" as a slang for the british pound, bob T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The name was too good, right? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Bobbies is for police....does that mean they were many pounds? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: nods, but for all practical purposes where instant calculations are needed, you can approximate it by 5000 feet, etc. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and the old money, pence were abbreviated as "d" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: d for denarii T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: from the Roman denari T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nogs T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: How many grams in a pound.. we estimate 448.. but its not exact.. its some odd number 448.xx wtf is that :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But, Majic, sometimes a 280ft/mile can be too much. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Doesn't change the fact that there's no logical reason to use the Imperial System over the Metric System, Majic. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: 280ft/mile error, that is T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: No, other than that everyone's used to it and no pressing reason to change for the US. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's not true, yuna T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no reason for all telecoms not to use fibre optic T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: And what, pray tell, would be the logical reason to stubborn stick to Imperial over Metric besides laziness (and the cost of converting road signs)? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: there's no reason for all pc's not to be 64 bit T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: none, really. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cost, familiarity T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Yeah, Tiger, there is no reason. The same way there is no reason we are still using the Imperial system. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they are not illogical reasons T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Why not everyone convert to US Customary instead! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The United Kingdom has already begun their journey to Metric. It's pretty much only road signs and certain containers of drinks left, apparently. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the road to metric in the UK ended some years ago T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: pretty much. although nothing's been added recently T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: actually, it ended in a bunch of lawsuits T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Nobody's asking you to do it overnight. But you're stubbornly refusing to even consider it. Because... it would be un-American? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I heard someone once say in UK, "we use Imperial in summer for temperature, and Metric in winter, it makes it easier to complain." T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: metric makes the most sense. base 10. why have arbitrary numbers for different measurements. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: road signs/speeds will remain in miles. Food can be sold in imperial provided it is also labelled in metric T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: If the standard system hindered global corporations profit, it would be changed fast. Since it doesnt... nobody who has power gives a damn. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: I have absolutely no input into whether it's used or not. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It took how long to get to the Base 10 number system for the world? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I think everyone should switch to base 7.5, T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: nah, everyone needs to switch to binary T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The largest cultures used different systems. Babylonians used a base 60 system. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: but it's not something for me to get worked up over either, frankly I don't care because there are other things to worry about politically. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i certainly wouldn't advocate forcing everyone to change just because some commie said so T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Why not an irrational number base, suck as e or pi? Then it would be much more interesting converting between imperial or metric systems. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: there's an old IT joke, there are 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who don't T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How about base i? O_o T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Imaginary bases FTW! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: can you make change for pi? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Piece Of Herodotus Tech: like base i? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: more like make change for pie amiorite T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Every number has an infinite number of representations in base i :) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: all your base are belong to us. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think complex numbers base would be more interesting than just imaginary. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Complex Number for the win. They include real and imaginary numbers! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: But we use a combination of what has been said here, -10e^(pi*i) as base. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dispel Majic sniggers at ElFeneri's actions. Maybe you should REPORT the idjit. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ElFeneri, that's not a complex number :P T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: yes it is, a complex number with imaginary part 0 T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Nope, that's the base most use in their everyday life T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But I only care about complex numbers with an imaginary part != 0 >:( T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: just because you don't care about them doesn't maen that they don't exist! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and it contains two irrational numbers an imaginary number and a minus. Yet it becomes 10. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: quit beautiful T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Y + U*pi*ed + me T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: quite T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I think a+bi is simple enough. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone had issues with the wireless card in their asus netbook? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You know, I need to not just glance at things sometimes... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: haha T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Otherwise, words that are otherwise innocent become... not so innocent. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sounds like a fun game. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Always. :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: i am setting up a new phone plan & will recieve a new #. will that effeect my aard game in anyway (login, level, anything)? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: i will be switching phone too. does that impact anything? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Again, no. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: thank you! T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Your player profile is on a server that only Aardwolf can access. Nothing you do (switch phones, computers, ISPs, houses, continents, worlds, universes) will affect your player her. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'll be switching doctors. Will that affect my aard experience? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, yeah. Switching doctors is the only thing that can. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: If it's a psychiatrist. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: depends on what medicines you are prescribed. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks for reminding me, Daloran. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .. My girlfriend just left me, how will this affect my total trained stats? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli just saved 15% on his levels by switching to Geico. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Daloren: your wisdom just went up, but you constitution went down T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nice T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I replace a portal when using xrt? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Huh? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It will automically use a portal if you've added it to mapper T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: you can try runto (dungeon name) and go from there.. sometimes its close enoigh to skip the portal T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I replaced a portal that led to labyrinth and when I use one to an area close by it tries to use the old portal num T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: update your alias or whatever T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: mapper portals see if its still there T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ahh i see, it didnt replace the old one just added a new one T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I make an alias refer to a mapper command, tried a direct link with a variable and its saying unknown command T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: send to execute T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thanks again T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone use madcatz container sort plugin for mush? mine isnt working T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: How are you using it? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: lget container min level max level T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: sort isnt working either T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What's the errror T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: it shows that it works but doesnt get the items out or sort them T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Reinstalling might help T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I presume it needs the invmon tags active, though I have no idea if it's testing for that and enabling as needed. Are yours on? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It doesn't, Hanslanda. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does your prompt end in %c? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it uses invdata, not invmon T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have prompts off? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes it ends in %c and I have them on T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Only problem I've seen with it not working is for people with prompts off. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Which I was too lazy to fix T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: when I use it, it says item num the name of item with color code for each item and lget done T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Are you sorting items in your inventory, or in a bag? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: in a bag T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: satchel in this case T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: The watchmen/crusader/whatever one? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod crusader one T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: tried it with testament and aardbag too T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see the id of the bag when you use the sort command? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: the identify output, I mean T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes, first line says invdata bag id T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: it acts like its working perfectly, just doesnt do anything T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I mean the entire output, like when you type 'identify bag'. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see that when you try to sort? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no, just that line then the item numbers of every item in the bag along with color codes T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Nods, that's invdata...but that should all be gagged. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I may have downloaded an ancient version T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see "sorting done" immediately when you use the command, or does it take a while? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: There's only one version T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Should've been some more, but I never got around to them T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oh, it says sorting done right after all the rest of the stuffs T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does the plugin handle the rawcolors change? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: what rawcolors change? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: invdata always showed rawcolors. invdata ansi was new, but don't think it changed invdata T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: And I've gotten tells from people in the last week or two that haven't had problems with it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: did they do a direct download from a link or copy/paste to notepad? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Try turning prompts off and back on and try it again? Other than that, I don't know what the problem might be T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I usually tell people to copy/paste to notepad T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: because you get some extra/different characters than intended sometimes if you don't T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok, thats what I did, and when I type prompt it said sorting, turned them back on and it says sorting done T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the < and > get messed up if you just d/l the gdocs, but it wouldn't let it install if those were still messed up T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Sounds like it's stuck somewhere it shouldn't be. I'd make sure I had prompts on, then reinstall it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Modkit Madcatz nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what are you using the prompts for? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not, he's trying to not show them during the sort T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I turn them off so you don't get 200 prompts while it's sorting T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: And then I rely on the messages from the mud when turning them on/off to know when to start and when it's done T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: not the smartest thing, in retrospect T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok reinstalled, same prob, I also noticed right before it says sorting done I see the line you will no longer see prompts, even though they stay on then sorting done T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should see the "no longer see prompts" line as the very first thing... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Nah, that should be gagged T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the last thing should be "You will now see prompts" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Do you see "Sorting..."? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, didn't look for gag, just meant the order of processing should end with them being turned back on, not being turned off T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: I gag the "You will now see promtps" line and replace it with "sorting done", and replace the prompts off message with "sorting..." T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: So that first trigger isn't firing T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: well, the first chronologically, the second in that line T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But they're both in the same group and get turned on/off at the same time, so don't know why one would be firing and the other not T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: on a side note anyone know why my line spacing keeps changing? it was every line and through tinkering with the plugin, i.e. reinstalling it and such it is now double spaced T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is mush executionally-sequential or does everything run simultaneously like in ZMud? One of the issues prior to multi-state triggers in ZMud was that trigger speed could cause things to occur out of order, sometimes causing stuff to fire when it shouldn't or not fire when it should. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what plugin did you tinker with for line spacing? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: it's sequential within a plugin (you can specify sequence), but sequence between plugins isn't guaranteed T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no, I was tinkering with the container sort, by reinstalling it and trying it, I just tried sort again and back to single spaced T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: One of the triggers in my plugin gags blank lines T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But should only be on when it's sorting T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But since some triggers aren't firing when they should, it's getting stuck in states where it's not supposed to be in while not sorting T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: But that's why T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: so maybe delete it and try a complete reinstall from scratch? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: don't think that'd be any different than just reinstalling it. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nod, same response :p T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Probably a stupid question, but you have triggers enabled in game->configure->triggers, right? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the plugin wouldn't be firing if that weren't the case, right? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: probably not. Not 100% sure what happens when a plugin turns a trigger on with triggers disabled, though T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Which might have explained why some triggers were working and not others T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok I got the identify response when I disabled triggers but still not doing anything T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: didnt get the sorting or sorting done messages though, just as if I identified my bag T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: When you try using lget and lput, you see the invdata stuff, too? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: (the list of the contents with the color codes and such) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oh, I mean I did, turned triggers off and I get the identify response T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Nods, you should turn them back on T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: Only other thing I can think of is another plugin interefering with it T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: well boo, thats disappointing, seemed like it would be a handy plugin T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Modkit Madcatz Tech: sounds like the trigger that is failing is the one that matches on "{invdata *}" T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what is a good moons plugin? Bast's isn't popping up a miniwin. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ulrich, you aren't using bast's eqdb plugin, are you? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abernacky Tech: basts will pop up once you've "seen" all 3 moons T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: dunno, I'll check T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ahh ok thanks T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'll only see the moons if you have noweather set to see the weather, and if you're in an outdoors-flagged room T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I dont see it, seems like I was using it at one time, but it should show up in the plugin menu, anyway to test for it though? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb plugin uses the invdata stuff, so that could interfere...no reason to have both enabled, though, as bast's gives you lget/lput/sort/etc T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is thre a "unexplored report" plugin for mush? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: shows: 7 areas unexplored, Rooms: 118 of 30025 My rank is 37 T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or if fits on channel... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 7 areas unexplored: Gladiator's Arena [3] Council of the Wyrm [1] Crynn's Church [30] Umari's Castle [3] Journey to the Inferno [29] Oradrin's Chosen [26] Nyne Woods [26] Rooms: [118 of 30025] My rank is 37 T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok tried uninstalling madcatz version to check for basts eqdb plugin and it didnt understand commands, so Im assuming no eqdb T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, it should show up if installed...look for miniwin_eq and xBroadcast_Inventory could interfere as well T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no none of those T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there anyway to get the saving of databases in mush to NOT take focus out of other windows? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: very annoying when mush alt tabs me out of other windows T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: huh? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: when it saves my databases mush pulls focus T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose you could try disabling compression T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: not sure what makes it pull focus though T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: on windows? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: if so you probably have your machine set to move to front the window with most recent activity... T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: will it break anything if I use your z_order_monitor stuff (and resetaard) in a non-packaged plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sweet :-) T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ZOrderMonitor#How_do_I_make_my_own_miniwindow_plugins_make_use_of_your_Z-order T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: very descriptive wiki link lol T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I think everyone's miniwindow plugins should respect at minimum the resetaard command. especially if they don't put sane location restrictions on dragging T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is there an easy way to convert "\u003cb" (and similar) in Lua? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: convert into what? T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Into readable format, I suppose. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaUnicode T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks. I'll look through that. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Admittedly, I had forgotten what the term was (unicode). T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also https://github.com/LuaDist/slnunicode T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just pulled that up. T3/r7/2012-08-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: mudder.javajman.com if yer on a mac ^_^ T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: no i don't have that setting takhsis...mush is the only program that does this T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i don't see where to disable compression T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: mapper help T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: mapper help T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: am i using an old version? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i see nothing about compression in mapper help T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why would you want to disable compression? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: type checkversion T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: backups are faster without compression T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: doesn't understand me T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: then yes you are using an old version T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: very old T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/detail?name=MUSHclient.zip T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: is there instructions for integrating some aardwolf features into my client? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: your client's helpfile, or the language-manual website. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: I suppose it depends on your client T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and which features T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: specs I believe is the word I am looking for T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: my client I am building I am working on some help files and just got the MCCP working per specs T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a text game. What features does it possibly have that a client can't handle? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mccp isn't an aard thing, it's a general MUD thing... T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: some clients don't support GMCP T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: such as the map it sends an character to donate the begin and end of a map segment T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gmcp specs are available on the wiki under client protocols T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I know it's not an aardwolf spec T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help tags T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: tags helps thanks T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are just text...nothing client-specific, you just trigger on text T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: ok I was wondering if there were any extra commands like the negotiations on login T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what client are we talking about here? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: Mudder T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a custom-written one T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's writing it, fiend T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: It's in the app store T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: interesting T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: http://mudder.javajman.com T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for telnet negotiations, aard supports 2...option102 and gmcp T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: info on gmcp is on the wiki, info on opt102 is at http://www.aardwolf.com/blog/category/technical/ T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything else is just text and not done in negotiation strings T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: that is very helpful thank you. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: I was looking into automapping after I do MXP T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for that, the gmcp page on the wiki has everything you'd need T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: cool T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: this is the itunes link http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ocarina/id492597950?mt=8 T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: no itunes T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: but I'm sure it will be great T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: thanks T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: is there any plugin or command to get all certain level items from a bag? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Mush? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: madcatz's bagsort can T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's pretty easy to just seperate gear by bag. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's eqdb can as well T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: where can i get madcatz from? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zethien Tech: walmart ! T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQcSJ7QDH5gyZGMzdDRkanZfMGduajRoczNr&hl=en&pli=1 T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: madcatz bag sorter rocks my world T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: is 3500 dpi with a option to switch dpi good enough for first person shooters, for a mouse? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: only kind of games i like to play lately T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: this old one i had wasn't very good T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: what is required to make a script match very specific? for example. i want to shorten mapper resume to mr but not have that get ran if i type mrank. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the alias has to be in your client, not in aard T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: yes. it is. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so you'd go to game -> configure -> aliases...put "mr" in the top box, put "mapper resume" in the bottom box, and change "send to" to execute T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: sure. still will catch mr and run it with mrank. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it won't trigger on anything except "mr"...not " mr", not "mr ", not "mrteeth" T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH uses glob matching unless you override that on a per-trigger/alias basis...glob matching is a fully-anchored match T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: okay. i see. trying it out. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: i had regexp = y which was changing how that alias worked. Thanks Abe. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never check checkboxes unless you know what they do :P T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Abelinc's Guide to MushClient and Nuclear Warfare (tm) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (also, absolutely NEVER click the "make regular expression" button...ever :P) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: abe do you know of a way to change the background of a string of text ? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want something to be a regex, then you should write it as one T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: more of a left over from a previous attempt. i tend to write these without clicky clicky most of the time. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: always lick make regular expression and tell everyone your triggers T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: id like to keep colors of text while just setting background T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean like highlighting it and going to display, make highlight trigger? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah a highlight but but like i said keep text color T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: specifically want to change background of lines that have (R) to make background of entire line color #300000 T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: id like to keep colors of other things like [TARGET] and [CP] T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the trigger that is made by the highlight...when you're looking at the trigger, there's a drop-down for whether you're trying to change foreground, background or both T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it never hurts to actually open stuff up and look... T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: with cmud/zmud, i could do something like #5 (thing) and it would send (thing) five times - what's the mush equivalent? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some sort of loop T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like for i=1, 11 do end T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, but if i just wanted to type in something real quick, like #5 hammer or whatever, there's no quick and dirty way to do that? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I couldn't find a way T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I wrote a function that passes the number of loops and the commands as parameters T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: could make an alias to do it T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: make a macro that builds the basics and pass it to command line? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or alias like doit x cmds T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: can't say that that approach thrills me T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: but thanks, that answers my question :) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is mushclient too scaredy to copy that zmud option -- been over 14 years since zmud came out with that -- patent expired T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it wasn't invented by ZMud, fyi. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well alias that does 'lp 5 sob' is easy to make T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: 5 and sob being random T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but I kinda like cmud's simplicity too T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The only thing wrong with cmud is Zugg. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if zugg is stuck with using Delphi, that may be part of the difficulties zugg encounters with coding cmud T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: His only 'difficulty' is that he won't bother. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can you really blame him tho, not a lot of muds left out there T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Shrug, Nick Gammon bothers T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and mush with the built-in aard stuff is hard to beat T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod, I like his voice too T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the Delphi thing is mostly that he's got so much custom stuff that makes CMud great. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if Muds are becoming extinct, blame the avoidance of cookie-cutter characters T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's great about cmud T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: besides the simplicity of some thing T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: s T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it'd be like Fiendish having to totally rewrite Mush again. Unless there's a huge, HUGE amount of benefit potential, Fiendish is definitely going to just laugh in your face for suggesting it. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: lol, right, because there's something unique about THAT on a mud versus any other game T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Eh, I tried mush, didn't like it. Have to know lua or be stuck using someone else's plugin, which you have control over modifying. No simple #sub function. Ridiculous spammy colourtell() nonsense to color a freakin word. No thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: very fast text scrolling. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some people just like cookie cutters, those usually aren't in the top competitive bracket in most games tho T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: geh, which you have no control over modifying, is what I meant to say. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like the mapper in zmud/cmud better, i like being able to see all of an area in 1 layer T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I like cookie cutters. Makes it easy to make cookies in interesting shapes T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: awesome, i changed my font from 9 to 10 and now it doesn't wrap properly T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: halp! T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Trez: You know from experience? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye I do T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: have seen it plenty on aard too T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod I miss some cmud stuff :( so much easier to do T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like key/pairs... mush you gotta write it yourself in script, cmud it's all visual and neat T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: some Muds are dying because some (deluded nerds) insist that characters must be different to maintain the illusioo of challenge -- those muds that are #1 are temporarily "immune", but those down in the TMC lists are dying from too much diversification T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i like the idea that mush will allow me to make the bestest most undetectablest bot ever, but i have no knowledge with any scriping language that would be helpful in that process... so i use mush because it has all those plugins T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: orrrr.... just look at Fiendish's comm log plugin, it's a thousand and something lines T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: ...that and i lost all my cmud settings, but that's a different issue T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on cmud it's like 1 line that you write T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I bet it's more from the fact that MUDs are typically years-long affairs to get anywhere. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: down in the TMC lists are just dying because MUDs were a fringe market 10 years ago, and they're even less relevant today T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod cmud corrupted my settings too :p T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: it's only 1k lines because his is doing tons more than that one cmud line T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also it did manage to corrupt my backups, which it made itself T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that happens with any datafile usage. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the original "comm log" in mushclient was extremely short T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: probably Abelinc, but he's creating the whole windo whimself T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: games with universal longlasting appeal are based on skill and everybody starts equal T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, because he wants more power than cmud gave T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: adding scroll slider, making it able to move T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he doesn't have to do that to get the scroll and such T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's prolly same amount of code in cmud, but it's backstage, the user doesn't need to do anything about it T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you create a window on mush, it's just static, can't move, no scroll T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't resize T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's not more than what CMud can do. CMud and Mush are pretty much even on everything involved with fancified text display. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes it can, trez T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you can if it's just a stock window, you gotta add more code to make it happen T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get move, resize, scroll, etc with a nice easy call T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not like #win asd T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't get a MINIWINDOW that easily...you get a WINDOW that easily T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it doesn't beat #win asd T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for easy T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: talking about miniwindow T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: zscript is buggy though. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not really. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes really T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: No, it's not. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the bugs are just very well known, and people code around them well T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's just a shame that zugg gave up and let mush win. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he has a known bug list T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when asked about it, he doesn't say if/when it will ever be fixed T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: which is a bit disappointing T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: They'll be fixed just in time for the first MUD's to start up on the first permanent colonies on Ganymede. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Zugg has not done much in programming due to the cracking of zMUD and lack of support from people buying his program. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do you compete with free? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he created cmud :P T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has no cracked versions T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also he made people pay for both cmud v2 and v3 T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: so... he couldn't do the same for zmud? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: he's the stellar business man that decided to go with a lifetime liscense for the thing T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, which version did he finally stop calling it public beta? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wasn't it one of the later 2.somethings T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: with popular fps video games, everybody start equal, and there is no prerequisite of years of improving the character, merely a great fast computer, fast connection, superb controls-layout, fast typing abilities, and mental skills, (and a list of cheat codes - scratch that) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: version 1. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Xyliz you haven't played lot of games, have you :) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Makes you wonder why he did not fix the bugs before adding more stuff. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Lineage 2 progression was about ... 3-5 years for max level T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: muds are fun because of the people, the content just needs to be tolerable T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: d2 was maybe 2 years and more T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: when you have irritatingly elitist people, the game is less fun T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye I come to chat, it's nice T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'd like pvp to be back tho T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: LoL has progression too, takes 2-3 months for max level T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: Land of Losers? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: kinda :P T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: aka league of legends T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: part of that is just how Zugg is. He hates doing nothing but bugfixes, because it's real boring and almost nobody ever actually goes to the effort of tracking down bugs so he can get them fixed quickly (that and apparently most coders are just dumbasses with lots of buggy shit all on their own for other programmers to not reinvent the wheel with). T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but, most games have a reduced grinding requirement now T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Xyliz is over a decade behind in video games -- not getting hooked in money-sinks like WoW and other mmrpgs T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: grinding is annoying and serves little purpose T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: up to recently, there was really only 6 people actively beta testing CMud. 6 people, in a crowd of like 75,000 users! T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't really care that it took me this long to get to t6, if they new generation of mudders can get here in 1/100th the time, and that makes them stay and play.. all the better T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Xyliz you should quit living under a rock :) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: spend some money on entertainment T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: why would i test software when i want to play a damn game? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i don't come here to do work, i come here to play a game T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: testing software, not fun T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it feels like work sometimes, having to script plugins for simple crap :( T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: i know, i need to set up my speedwalks to areas and stuff T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right now, i have nearly every portal in the game plus some trivias... but what do i use? runto. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I don't even use the program and I've written 8 plugins :P T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most were decent, the last one was a quick hack job :-) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if runto wasn't here, i would probably be using emerald or something T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I agree, just explaining why bugfixing is so slow at Zuggsoft. 90% of the bugs fixed in both ZMud and CMud are because someone briefly mentioned a problem and Zugg did all the work in figuring out what broke how. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Scars Make mapper goto aliases for each area using the room number where the portal or beginning of the area is. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: all you need to do, is set some portals on themapper T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: using your actual portals T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then amulet, recall, clanexits T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: right, right... but first i have to learn how to use the mapper T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and can type xrt ft1, it'd run you there T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and then i have to actually, you now, do it T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: well ye T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: and that's going to take me far, far longer than runto area, go to mob, kill mob, q complete T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xrt is winkle's mapper extender T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which is 99% of what i do anymore T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye might be, I don't use xrt much T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has you set a "first room" marker in the areas T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: if someone else would do all this work, that'd be great :) i pay nothing and offer no benefits and will likely be ungrateful T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: which one of you self-loathing techies wants this T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle does...that's why he wrote mapper extender already ;-) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you need to set the portals T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even without setting the portals, it'll be worlds more efficient just using the mapper rather than aard's runto T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just find the time to set the portals, then can use winkle and do fast q T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I wonder when people will start triggering this stuff T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: triggering which stuff? for quests, you already get the info via gmcp T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the go+kill T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: right now it's manual aliases to move and kill T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you trigger those so they aren't called manually, then it'd be a q bot T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, they've been triggering on that stuff for a decade T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how sweet of them :) T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'm way beyond triggers. Currently working on an in-client in-window formatted note editor. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have been a fair number of qbots nuked over the years T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Turie points at you. How rude! T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if I weren't Lasher's alt, I woulda been nuked years ago T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sorry, Turie, Abelinc's not a qbot. Perhaps he's half-qubit, but definitely not qbot. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Abelinc: If Lasher were you, he would more than likely drink himself into a stooper. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stupor T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: he'd be so drunk he won't be able to spell it right T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at her. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Abelinc's the only official bot allowed on live port. Lasher gave Ryan the honors on testport. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, one of these days I may even bot enough to actually use some sort of mapper T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Nintendo is making like no money and needs to close out stuff that is draining the company. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, INFO: All please welcome Testtestyes, Aardwolf's newest Dwarf Barbarian! T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is that your multiplay alt? I already reported T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The name OneTesticle is available for use. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't worry, it's OK, I'm using a different IP T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: Graveyard GQs are a pain for the nonscript users, even with rip -- is "alias kgyg rip;kill gh" legal, "kgyg" to be manually typed or mouse-buttoned upon arriving at a possible ghast/ghost/ghoul location T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you asking someone to explain how to script a gq bot to work with graveyard T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and if you can't see their twig, it's wrong T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mis :p T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: kiiling the ghast/ghost/ghoul is difficult if the "rip" is not "stacked" before the "kill" command -- slow typers wont be able to kill the mob until night T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Korridel I think Xbox is about the only one that is really making any money overall on their consoles. T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: does mushclient allow you to seperate with ~ aswell as ; ? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: in mush using two(;) is the separator T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not 2 ;, just 1...but you can make it whatever you want T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I make a trigger only fire when I enable it, i.e. an afk tell responder T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: using mush btw T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You will need to use a script, which enables you to set a trigger to 'enabled' or not T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: blah I will have to pass for now then I guess, thanks T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: only at the moment you enable it, or only after you enabled it? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I want to be able to enable it to run after Im gone and turn off when I return T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a #T+ and #T- type thing T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is a case of using 'afk' or 'afk *' as an alias, which toggles the 'enabled' flag of the trigger T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would you just name the trigger and what command to toggle? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for tell autoresponders, you'll also want to program more logic into it, such as only responding to the same person once T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or resonding with a timestamp, that would save someone making you spam T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: that reminds me: is there a stock plugin for mush, or a bast one, that handles afk stuff like that? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnableTrigger("triggername", 0)...1 for enable, 0 for disable...to do "trigger class" like z/cmud, use EnableTriggerGroup() T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a tell autoresponder, though, I personally don't use a "type this to enable/disable", I prefer using the idle timer in the client T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: when i usta do it, i liked reading notes when "away" and didnt want to respond :P T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone have any sense about what the most common pagesize setting is? T3/r7/2012-08-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: default is 40 I believe T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in cmud, can one make a macro on the caps lock key? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not even sure why the caps lock key even exists, tbh T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can't. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Easy way to check is to use the GUI, do 'New Macro', then hit the key you want to macro. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: there ARE times when you want to have a bunch of stuff in caps. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did that, was just covering bases in case there was something I didn't know about. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The caps lock key exists, so you can map it to control and avoid hurting your pinky finger by the stupid standard layout T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: s/control/escape/ T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: that's another option T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting... I tried "#KEY CAPSLOCK {#PRINT {Test}}" in CMUD, and... my zero key now fires... T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: how can i connect to aard through another mobile mud client? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: What are you using now? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: the android app o: T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Blowtorch? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i hate playing in landscapw T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: no its made by the same devolpers thougg T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina giggles. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: or is this blowtorch also :( T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I use blowtorch, and it's ok. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Ah, that's more likely. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: im new. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I see :D T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i already got laughed at T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: lemme check blowtorch, how would i connect with it? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Somewhere there is a blowtorch client that will automatically connect to aard. I'll see what I can come up with. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i have that one T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: "http://www.aardwolf.com/play/android-mud.htm" T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Hmm. It should automatically flip when you move your phone. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: it only plays in landscape T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina twirls a black silk blindfold on a finger with a wicked grin. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: not portrait T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seductress Reina giggles. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Shoo, you. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: hi reina T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: nope doesnt rotate T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Carce: I'm afraid I'm not aware of any other mobile clients. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I can ssh into my home server to play, but that's fairly round about, and takes some significant set up. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: well do you know this host and port number? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: aardmud.org:23 T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: brb ill try a diff client T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Other ports are 4000, 4010,4444, 7777 T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Good luck! T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: this one is 23 T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: correct T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Yes, but I believe you can get here on any of those. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: yay i got it working T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i think T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Good deal. What did you end up using? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: the blowtorch client made by the same devolpers as the aardwolf rpg app T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: this client allows me to go portrait though. easier typing T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I wonder why the aard specific one won't. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i have a droid razr maxx...its kinda big so landscape typing is a pain T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: no idea T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: is there a faster way than typing tech? and how can i turn tech channel off? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: i guess thats a question for nd... T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: There's no faster way, and simply type "tech" to turn it off. This goes for other channels as well. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: thank you. add me murphisto T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carce Tech: ? :) T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: if i want my prompt to show if there is graffiti in a room, how do i do that? it only shows room name with %r T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: if i want my prompt to show if there is graffiti in a room, how do i do that? it only shows room name with %r T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: is it possible to show if a room has graffiti n my prompt? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: clientside, with a mapper, yes. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: don't really need a mapper for that T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the answer is no :P T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's prompt cannot show the existence of graffiti T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's unanimous! 3 out of 4 bots agree it can be done. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: thankyou T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont even need a mapper, an rname trigger, and a prompt substitution T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: can anyone tell me what would cause a php script to work on one page, and not another, when nothing with the php part of the script was changed? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: include or global var? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: also: are they on the same server? do they have the same environment vars? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: same server, same directory, the only difference is in the html code. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: have you tried changing the error codes and testing the page to see what it catches? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Anyone know a good site where I can get an LCD TV cheaply and I would be able to hook it up as a comp monitor or TV? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: TVs generally don't make great monitors T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: would it be naive to recommend watching newegg for deals? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Most any TV will be usable, though, through HDMI. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Nod just looking for something I can setup my xbox on and act as a dual monitor if I need it too. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have the Sony PS3 monitor. Works pretty well. No TV card, though, so you'd need a cable box or something else with a TV card in it. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: anyone know where i can get an AFK script/plugin similar to Abelinc's? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can write one. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: besides writing one :) T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Abelinc's is for his client, which I believe is tinyfugue. If you're looking for MUSH, you might ask on tech board. *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: what is the command to change the number of lines before you have to press enter to continue scrolling T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: scroll # T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: or scroll 0 turn off scrolling T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: thanks! T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: my client window has lots of empty space. what's a pretty and/or informative way to fill it? any favorite plugins? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what client? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or are you just looking for ideas for scripting? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: the Aard version of MUSHclient. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast, go to his site, click the wiki tab and read the info on his plugins...download the whole zipped folder, but only click "add" for individual ones you're interested in T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: thanks! the screenshots look like science, which is pretty much what I was hoping for. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: like...science? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: that's right. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: you know, like every computer screen in a sci-fi movie. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bast's stuff looks like a bunch of random blinking lights? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But neither of them are online. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mis. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: maybe not that old-school. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: i mean it as a compliment, incidentally. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: LCARS online T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: that is a fine example. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi! any software can convert Photo image to Cartoon? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Photoshop. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: other than this T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://cartoon.pho.to/ T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: photoshop can with some effort. google 'lichtenstein photoshop tutorial' T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: adobe photoshop. it has filters that can make your photoes look like they were drawn in pastel or water color T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: anyelse software beside photoshop? T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that website ozzy posted is kinda funny T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: gimp is freeware - equivalent to photoshop T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just tried it,,, works pretty good :P T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: on android, there are programs that can do that too. forgot what's it's name. T3/r7/2012-08-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://storage13.pho.to/images/3/a2/E2CB8255-AA69-4AD3-B037-A59281A3266B.jpg T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Woah...just picked up a 480GB Sata III SSD for $380 T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You paid too much. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, I paid the I-Live-In-Australia tax T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You cannot say that without knowing the brand. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sandisk Extreme, btw T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure I can. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Prices for SDDs vary a lot depending on quality. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I bought an HDMI cable for about $900, it's pretty high tech T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ebay wants $1100 for the Intel T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: That tax is quite annoying, and I say this living in Australia. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soris Tech: That tax is quite annoying, and I say this living in Australia. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: HDMI cables... for $900... you're out of your friggin' mind. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Now, that was a bad buy, I can say without knowing the brand. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Our dollar buys $1.05 US, but they still add 10% to any tech parts T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+2%27+High-Speed+HDMI+Cable+-+Dark+Gray/Black/2383258.p?id=1218324434805&skuId=2383258&st=diamond%203%20foot%20hdmi&cp=1&lp=6#BVRRWidgetID T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you pay more than $8 for an HDMI cable, you're out of your mind. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It's made of DIAMONDS T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can see the $40 we sell at work being reasonable due to the braided cabling it has...bc I hate untangling plastic T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would buy it from bestbuy try it to see if it is better than return it after buying a $2 one from ebay T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol read the reviews on that cable T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: makes a 27" look like a 65" T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'll buy that HDMI for $900. Maybe it'll fix my lag time on COD! ;) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: same person also complains that it is too long T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: hdmi cords are way to expensive... need a 20 footer >< T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hahahahahahaha... Probably a man thinking that his small hand makes 1" look like 15". ;) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'll buy a 65" tv when they make films in 10,800p. Until then I'll use my 27" monitor and sit closer T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Doink, just look on Amazon T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I got a 6' HDMI cable for $9.99. :p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so far i have not had any problems with the super cheap hdmi's i got from ebay T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: There's a 25' HDMI cable on Amazon for $6 T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The whole point of digital transfer is that you don't need expensive cabling. Just saying. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well. That derailed quickly. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: Does anyone know, using mushclient, if you can do the mapper goto command and have it open doors? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just have to set custom exits, I believe. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: hmmm kk T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got the autohealer plugin from that mush website how do i set the potion and hp amount? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for any webexperts out there. I'm trying to figure out how to condense the code of my pages, so repeating menus that I have, I don't have to type on each and every page. I know it's possible with the include function of php. But my question is this, how do I keep the css formatting, if I move a menu out of one page, and into a menu.php file that I plan to include? does something different have to be done to handle the css code? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: div's and classes T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i am having problems with the mush client autohealer pluggin how do i set what potion to use? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There is no default autoquaffer, what plugin is it? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think Bast and Winkle both maintain one however T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: i got it off a website mushclient pluggins its name is just autohealer T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: then you should probably ask at the place you found it...nobody here will know what you are using by magic T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: im going to get the site brb T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: my potion plugin is not an autoheal plugin, just a way to manage potions T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ah - I don't use either, so was guessing - sorry T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Love your miniwn work though, tis awesomesauce :-) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: got it here www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/plugins T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hey bast ... the spellup miniwin/plugin is a bit buggy :? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is there an autoheal plugin for aard mush? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: in what way? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: any ideas its helpfile only shows me how to set max ho\p and max manna not how to set witch potion T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: hp* T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NOGasKet Domain Tech: for autohealing, i suggest you read help botting T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: and that plugin is for achea - http://achaea.mc0wnage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72 T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: havent tried to sift through the code but i appears when i try to run my spellup some of the spells seem to be trying to target a different target T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well i take it its on the mush client website its legal isent it T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Probably the blackscreen bug...I still can't shake mine, though now I have Mush on an SSD I can have Mush quit and rebooted in 0.5 seconds :-P T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Not safe to assume that. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Vakieh, you should just be able to reinstall the plugin now, I fixed the bug where reloading the plugin would still result in a blacked out miniwindow T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: Well, per the help botting, it appears to be legal, as long as you're not leaving yourself sitting in an aggro room and letting mobs repop and beat on you. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: If it is on the mush client website it is not necesarily legal in aard. You can use mushclient on many muds T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: So don't leave your keyboard, just a general rule. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Imalish: probably using skills that are more than one word T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, really? Cool - now I just have to find what I've modified/added so I can upgrade...but that's a problem for Future Vakieh T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RUM-FILLED Robbo Tech: At least that's my interpretation. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i ticked through the spell lists to ensure the spells i want to have active are selected (while bypassing ones that are otherwise duplicates) ... yeah thats what i was thinking too T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: soo no sugjestions? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: afking with aggro mobs in the room is illegal in any case T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: but i didnt enter any items manually :/ T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RUM-FILLED Robbo nods at Ranrr. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Topbilling, that plugin wasn't designed for Aardwolf, so it may not work at all anyway T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: plus, its vbscript, gah T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: maybe that plugin isn't even for aard Topbilling T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ooo ok sorry where can i find a autohealer for aardwolf? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://aardhaven.comli.com/mush.html T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and as far as "it's on the xxx website it should be legal"...legality is different on different MUDs, and legality of a particular script/plugin is even situation-dependent on a single MUD... T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an autoquaff script is legal on Aard while you're there starting fights yourself...it's illegal on Aard if you're afk in an aggro room T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is why reading "help botting", "help stacked commands" and "help is this botting" is good T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: What does the last parahraph in "help is this botting" really mean? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: the second sentence T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Some people said 'I do daily blessing auto, but don't use it so it isn't botting' T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Except they were farming chaos portals, etc (hearsay) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: that site you guys just gave me i save the plugins as i normaly do but it isent going as the plugin file its saving with an opera mini icon T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it means a DB reward of "kill 10 MOBs for 2x exp" doesn't help you if you bot it...a DB reward of "10 QP"s benefits you whether you "want it" to or not T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (if you botted the DB request but didn't ever kill MOBs, that is) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: So logging in for your daily blessing and logging out is not legal? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: why bother, it isn't in the spirit of the game. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's legal T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ok T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If YOU do it, it's fine. Different if Daily_Blessing_Bot.xml does it T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a trigger to "daily prayer" when you get the notification that you can request one is illegal T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'm guessing a script to do it for you is illegal T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: right T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I get it. It's just written in a funny way T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there a way to make the spellup list give priority to certain spells (specifically wisdom modifying spells T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: spellup wisdom T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: spellup wis T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: oops m/c T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in order to include an external file using php, all I would have to do in the file to display is and, then in the file_to_include.php it's just plain html code? or is it surrounded by the ? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: what would u~o n~n do ? is that a mush command? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: shrug, im reading a plugins script and it has U~O N~N T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still need more info... T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: yah i saw it on a site somewhere i think its a mapper cexit output T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: hunt trick wont work unless you're wolfen right? or will it? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It works regardless of what class you are. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works with every class. don't need hunt T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xzyth Tech: interesting :) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, race. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: I updated to the lastest mush and bast... and I keep seeing {invitem}. I type invmon to make it go away, but later it will start showing again. any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: who was it that was asking recently about the weaponswitcher plugin nor rearming after being disarmed. I just got disarmed and the auto rearm indeed didn't work T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Get the disarm message from wiki.aardwolf.com under General -> MUD messages T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Build your trigger around that. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the trigger fired. It was the weaponswitcher plugin from Bast's site. It always worked until an week or so ago T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: also note that there are some fights that have specialized disarm messages ... such as the dark elf king in dark elf strong hold ... where he throws a rock and paralyzes yoru shoulder causing you to drop your weapon T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: after the disarm the trigger fired with a Wield all. Then came this msg: You can only use single item syntax with a wear location. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Those are mprogs, not disarms. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The issue being that wield is location specific. 'wear all' would be a better solution. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: indeed may be mobprog but the result is the same ... disarmed :P T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: guess so. I'l see if I can rewrite the trigger. It never should have doen a wield all in the first place. I had a cweap set so it should have tried to wield that. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: rewrite the plugin I mean T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the disarmed function does "wear all" if cweap == nil...the disarmed_aard function does "wield all" if cweap == nil T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I was talking about the disarmed_aard function and cweap was not nuil T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ok, here's something weird. I use my macro, which calls an alias, which works btw.. but it also pulls up a dialog box which says "The variable hitpot is not defined". well, it IS defined, but that macro doesnt call that varable. several of my macros and plugins are acting weird, I tried a reboot of mush just not, same issue. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: anyway the wield all ini itself also didn't work. I'll make something nice of it T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what does \\\GetVariable("weapon1") give you? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol nothing. Need to set the \\\. just a sec T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm strange it seems it does returm nil for some reason T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but all my weapons return nil T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: any clue how to make potionquaffer v2 able to consume heal/mana items that are pills ? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: change it to eat instead of quaff T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: how ? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open it up in Notepad, do "find" on "quaff"... T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bah so i would have to modify the script itself :/ T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you are code-savvy, you can create a dictionary table populated with the appropriate action for each item, such as: quaffers["Jade Elixir"]="quaff", quaffers["Nachos"]="eat" ;) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but other than introducing a new variable IsPill or something, you'd need to change it back when you return to using pots T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and it would make it near impossible to have it work with pots and pills at same time :/ T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't bother with a dictionary table, just when you set healpot, also set IsPill, etc T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Imalish: It wouldn't make it near impossible to have it work with pots and pills at the same time. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just use the potion versions, it's not like you're limiting availability T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: but i would have to essentially create 2 new variables inside the script 1 for healtype to set as pill,pot,or what ever... same with mana T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You could even use keywords, such as quaffers["jade"]="quaff", quaffers["nachos"]="eat", then set your alias to pull the correct intake value, like send(quaffers["%1"].." %1") T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and there used to be a limitation that you couldn't use pills if you were too full T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah but was trying to upgrade to lvl 130 mana popcorn T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use level 125 mana extract T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But as Abelinc says, you can use an IsPill toggle instead, then run: if IsPill then send("eat %1") else send("quaff %1") end T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mana pots/pills pretty much all give 1/2 their cost back in mana...there's not a significant difference between 120 and 130, much less 125 and 130 T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that the script has separate spots for heal and mana actions...you could change Send("quaff '" .. GetVariable("manapot") .. "'") without changing Send("quaff '" .. GetVariable("healpot") .. "'") T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why would an ftp server come up with the error: Response:530 Sorry, the maximum number of clients (4) for this user are already connected. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i'm not connected T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other than "it was set up by retards" T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because something is connected as you T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: It's retarded was going to be my answer. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: self evident, growly :-) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly a browser T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: explain T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: what ftp client are you using? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: theres already 4 open connections with your login and password. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you were previously connected, your client didn't tell the server it's OK to disconnect T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: filezilla T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: It means you ftp password sucks and at least 4 other people easily guessed it? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try edit, settings, file transfer settings, use multiple connections to transfer files T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: Hung session T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i have no such setting, but i have tried setting max to 4 to see if that helps, and it appears to be T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or edit settings, transfers on the sidebar, concurrent transfers, maximum simultaneous transfers T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ta T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What is botting incompletes? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: brew incomplete potions T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: automatically T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it's automating something repetetive, boring, and useful T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Thank God. I was afraid it meant "incomplete bot that can't run more than a handful of mud commands without human attention". T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: for my view, single incompletes should be available somewhere.. but that's just me T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe Kraken, but that doesn't excuse the botting =p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: indeed. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: not gonna defend that. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aterius Tech: anyone have an opinion on sager notebooks? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just so i can go on record as actually buying something from bestbuy that i don't intend to return: i purchased a $20 wiring harness, and used a $10 gift card i received from them for recycling a CRT T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so they still gouged me $2 T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Gouged.. you keep using that word... I don't think it means what you think it means T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: please review your logs, that was the first and only time i have used that word T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe you don't know what 'keep' means? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Indeed I do. Point remains. =p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes :) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: not a fan of Best Buy? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: expensive T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i love best buy T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just keep getting told i am being unethical for using their 30day no questions asked return policy to trouble shoot hardware problems T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Uh.. it is a bit unethical. Also, learn to troubleshoot. =p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, when BestBuy is selling HDMI cables for $935... I'm sure you have plenty of reasons to continue abusing them. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am sure they are fully aware that people use their 30day return policy the way i do T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which still doesn't make it right =p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: they seem ok with it T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Daloran: Does selling a $935 2' HDMI cable "right"? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Which HDMI cable, Etz? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: tell us the truth Daloran, you are a large share holder in Bestbuy and secretly die a little everytime i mention this T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No, I'm a former retail wage slave who had to put up with people pulling this kind of schenanigan =p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh well you should have reported it T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sheesh seems unethical to not report it T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You're implying I didn't. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: however, when policy is clearly spelled out, isn't much you can really do. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bah. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well if you did, they obviously don't care, so why would it then be unethical T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+2'+High-Speed+HDMI+Cable+-+Dark+Gray/Black/2383258.p?id=1218324434805&skuId=2383258&st=diamond%203%20foot%20hdmi&cp=1&lp=6#BVRRWidgetID T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That one. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but it remains on the record i did buy from best buy and do not intend to return it T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Etz... Bestbuy actually has the cheap price on that cable. Amazon selling it for almost 1500. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is it from Amazon itself, or from sellers on Amazon? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: vendors on amazon. But still, other B&M stores locally carry it for more as well T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Locally. BestBuy is national. :p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: okay, so give me another large national electronics specialty store that is going to have that cable to compare it to T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Either way, no matter who is selling it, it's completely ridiculous at that price. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe. But I think its unfair to look at a high end hdmi cable they sell, that other vendors sell for more, and call them out for gouging.. they also have <$20 hdmi cables as well T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: BestBuy DOES price gouge, though. :p T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Compared to whom T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: who, rather T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no name dealers on ebay T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: eBay, Amazon, almost everything online is cheaper. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nationally? I suppose they're the monopoly in all things tech. But 90% of the stuff I can buy at BestBuy, I can get for much cheaper at Target or Walmart. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bob: Yes, online. Less overhead. No sales associates or many locations to pay for T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I just go to Best Buy to check out the gadget, then go home and buy it on Amazon. T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: menards T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone use bast's eqdb plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: not me, sorry T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I thought there was a way to sort items in a container with it, and Im not seeing it in the help file T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: anyone here have experience with cachi server pages (and csp rules in particular)? T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: test T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: you should test your bots with echo not a channel (grin) T3/r7/2012-08-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zanbone Tech: nice T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Using MUSH, is it possible or fairly easy to macro the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down buttons? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: so you may accidentally push them and act like a robot chicken ?! T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: take this to gossip or something T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: are there plug ins, add ons, or mods for the mobile client? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "the mobile client" ... is not exactly very helpful. probably not T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: well i downloaded this app from the android market T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: blowtorch? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: blowtorch? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: miss T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ros.. which app though. its meaningless =p T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: just wondering thats all, because i started downloading the mush client that had some cool features on it so i figured maybe something lie that for the app T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: one sec T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: again.... which app. without specifying even asking is pointless =p T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: the ardwolf rpg ver 1.1.3 T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: looks like its from whoever did blowtorch T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: k thanks ill dig around T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wonder if Lasher knows about that app or not T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Uh, yes, he helped facilitate it... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: He does T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh? fair enough then. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: help www, at the bottom. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Looking at some of the info people are taking it to be a stand alone phone game... but then again, people are stupid T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair enough. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's because of the mxit crowd - that's how it's been marketed to them, in South Africa, from what I understand T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair, ped. Was just worried name was being misused. But if imms are up on it, no worries T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Definitely T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: i realize its not just for mobile thats just how ive been playing it mostly on the go or at work. all i was wondering was if the the programop that is being used ( blowtorch, i believe) had any additional add ons to enhace mobile game play T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: probably not premade addons. but it seems to support macros/triggers and such T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: hmm is there a help for the macros T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Romasanta Tech: i think there labels that you set up macros inu T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: is a s7d considerd botting if i sit here and recall and rt the hole time? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: s&d T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: s&d is legal, though there is very thin line between S&D and bot T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: well as my mapper sucks i doubt its bottinf\g and im tyoing the hole time lol T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mapper has nothing to do with botting - the more you explore the better you maper become T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: sorry for spelling and typos need to clean this board T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've heard there is also auto-explore plugin T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mapper and botting is linked, but not inherent T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: oooos osund yummy lol T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, main difference is human attendance T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be careful with that 'human attendance' aspect - it is entirely possible to bot while never leaving the keyboard or even the client window T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: with scripting level provided by mush, it is quite easy to make cp bot or level bot T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: according to Lasher's reply, mobwalking (S&D) is legal. Mapwalking (auto-exploring) is not. I understand that auto-potting is also considered botting. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: that explore plugin would rock as i have 16% explored T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: was a clever trick, provide a custom client then nuke the bots that use it T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just become SH then go to low level areas and explore T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The map walking referenced was automatically moving your character through a series of rooms designed to streamline (afk) pupping T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Autoexplore plugins while at keyboard are legal afaik, so long as they aren't killing key mobs, etc T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Dangerous, though...easy to run you into overlevelled parts of the mud T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: but okay if you went to a continent and canvassed areas like "run 20en20wn20en" I hope T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ok as i understand it the autoexplorer is on the edge of botting so do i go look for it or forget it T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You could run the whole continent system in a single alias if you wanted - I know I did T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: forget it is safe T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I walked the continents manually. Doesn't take that much time. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: except something went wrong for me and now my mapper can't figure out how to get to wildwood T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: ill trie that after q T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: same happened to me with Wildwood T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: interesting. perhaps the continents aren't aligned up perfectly in that area or something T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I wonder what it is that changed T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I haven't just walked a continent yet T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: any other plugins that border on boting that i should know about? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i have ... its a pain :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: even then i may have missed a few rooms ... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: is there sutch a thing as a lasertag plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: If you mean a plugin to automate lasertag I'm sure someone has one somewhere T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: if its legal i want it lol T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't know if it is T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: then i dont lol T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: wouldn't be very smart to be nuked for cheating in lasertag T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: why don't you ditch the game and watch a movie instead if you want something that plays itself T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I doubt that would be legal T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: nah im cool with my s&d thanks T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for lasertag it would be hard to detect bot T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some players are just incredibly fast T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some players cheap like buggery T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cheat, even T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I joined one lasertag once simply to explore the area. I think laserzone and warzone should be noexplore T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: on the other hand it allows (or require) new players to play some lasertag games and take part in wars T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: not that many are concerned with exploration T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sooner or later people start checking myrank T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: perhaps T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i still only went back to lazer to explore T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you were forced to familiarize with laser, so you could call it kind of advertising (for those who want to improve myrank 15) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...I can get Windows 8 free via Dreamspark...should I try it out? I've already had a go of Metro, instant dislike T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Is there a console command for mush similar to #trigger for zmud? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, but you can write one. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: I just didn't know if there was ways to make simple aliases/triggers through the console in mush. Thanks T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sorry, actually there is, in the default installation! T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So actually there seems to be! T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Do you know what the string is? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: #trigger {blo} {ble} T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Oh nice same thing T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metzli Tech: Nope no dice :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Check your aliases. If it's not there, just add it yourself. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: http://pastebin.com/ZTs1ApYP -- that's the alias text T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: I have a mobile phone with no signal. Is there a way to access the playlists I downloaded from Spotify without needing an internet connection? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: It's a Droid, if that helps at all. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: huan if you were able to create a miniwin that had stack of commands in queu then you might be able to click the window to destroy items in the queue (ie interrupting the queued commands) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: perhaps utilizing tick triggers along with prompt triggers that can help plugin identify wait status T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: canceling the queue is not a problem, as long as it is in client. Only I would assign it to @ instead of miniwin, already saw one mud to it this way (show queue, @ cancel queue) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: hmm, meant @ and @@ T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mouse is clumsy if you need speed T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: fair enough ... what do youmean assign it to @ instead of miniwin ? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: a mud i played years ago allowed you to cancel queued commands using inputted command '--' T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: yes, something like this, syntax is not that important yet T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there was a wait penalty based on number of commands it had to cancel but it was less that 2 combat rounds T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You can cancel a command stack on aard, just disconnect and reconnect. You can alias it to take less than a second. Plan ahead better, imo. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I know, but dc is dirty, and I belive it's frowned on by imms if done a lot T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: commands that i frequently have to spam are dispel magic and my attack spells T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: upwards of 5-10 tries to knock sanc off of mobs T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: aliasing d/c is poor taste T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: MUSHclient has a queue that you can use. You just have to decide what commands go into it and how often it picks a command off it. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: do tell T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Since there's not really any way for MUSH to know when a command has been executed by the MUD T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sounds like a bot to me. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: leinei means speedwalk queue T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I believe the command is Queue() T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And then there is a DiscardQueue() command T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it's for muds that don't have speedwalk command implemented, and mushclient empties it at fixed rate T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, but you can specify the rate. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: where is the line btwn combat assisting and botting :/ its blurry and most of the time comes down to how the player uses it T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Why would this be close to botting? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: because it has potential to become recursive and thus could be abused to be roomwalking T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I avoid any triggers or timers that send text to mud, that should be safe enough. My longest alias stacks 12 commands, but I still have to launch it manually. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: pfft ive got the knossos palace commands in an alias T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: duh :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 14 commands that take about 5-7 secs to complete T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... im thinking that using an alias such as "~command" to add command to queue and having another alias to disrupt queue ... any commands entered while queue is processing would be treated as immediate and interrupt/pause queued commands T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: why not just avoid stacking so manay commands? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: that could work T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's a lot easier to not spam attack spells/skill and use trigs off of bprompt and cast success to cast/use skills for you... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: using any triggers to cast for you off bprompt would put you on the short list for botting T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan is agreeing with that Xantcha person again... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm, so it's illegal now? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: never was legal T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it was when i used valkur years ago T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: potion quaff has exception, combat spells don't T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah using triggers and this queue concept would make crossing the line a real problem T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Having ANY trigger EVER cast a combat spell is illegal T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no it's not T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i doubht that blinded triggers -> cure blind would be considered botting/illegal T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: disarm->re-eq triggers are allowed yes ? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: believe that is illegal. but want to hear if that's true. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: blind/cure blind trigger. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if using a script to save a ton of spam is illegal and can't see how auto cure blind is legal... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: cure blind is probably borderline, a standing imm would need to comment on that, I believe re-arm is legal... but having something that casts "immolate" for instance? you've crossed the line T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: thought that was illegal in pk for instance. blind/cure blind. or say .. web/dissolve. etc.. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: to re-iterate i am NOT trying to create a bot T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: no - this is a side comment. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: was curious about it. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Nods, I can see where the queue idea could be useful for things other than botting, I was responding to the comment about bprompt triggers T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: stacking is not a problem for mud, the data arrives whether you send them one line at a time, or in one packet. Saving spam gets mud nothing. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You can use a trigger to cast spells all you want. Just be at the keyboard. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Zuellier nods. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: And don't automatically start combat, etc. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I disagree, personally T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: policies7 is pretty straight forward. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I really don't care about if you agree or not, I'm just reading the help file. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like another case for the "spirit of the rules" police... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: play nice ? opinion is allowed. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Read through policies 7, and tell me how having a trigger that automatically casts immolate after you initate battle is "illegal" T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's not a discussion of opinoin, it's a discussion of what's allowed. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: the only thing i would consider using bprompt triggers for is identifing when to push item from queue to mud T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: "Any method which provides your character with meaningful gains, without any direct interaction from you, is illegal. This is true even if you're at the keyboard" ... "if you need ot go afk and the room loads an aggressive mob" ... these are the cases where a bprompt cast trigger can get you nuked T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am going to laugh when triggers are removed completely and i am the only person who still knows how to play this game by typing T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: a bprompt trigger is grey area at best... but if you suddenly have to get up and you end up in a room where combat will be automatic (aggro is a good example), you will be guilty of botting T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I'm going to laugh when the world goes under and I'm the only one who knows how to live without bathing! T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bah literal interpretation of policies7 indicates that my concept would be considered botting and thus a bannable offence ... but same is true for s&d or any auto re-cast spellup plugin T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: thank you, your admission of guilt has been recorded, and someone will be with you shortly. Have a nice day! T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: There's a specific exception case for spellups listed T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah the furnaces we put out have absestos liners in them, usually broken... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: india much ? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone know how to output data from plugin StatMonitor on demand ? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: man i need a newer pc... getting sick of this thing freezing up on webpages... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: anyone have advice on allowing permissions to "Read phone id (IMEI, etc.)" on android apps? I have LBE privacy guard so can block it app by app T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Probably need to root it and give the app su permissions. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Rooted already, I mean, what sort of apps "legitimately" need it? or should i not worry about it T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: In CMud, I have two modules. One has a variable. The other has a trigger. What do I need to do to enable the trigger to be able to access the data inside the variable, which is in the other module? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Some sort of syntax, or a global flag, or something? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: are they in the same package? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: ugh, i hate cmud T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: yes i think so :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's three visibility settings for modules, local, external and global T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: local is visible within the same package, external is visible in other packages, global is visible everywhere T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm surprised people still use cmud... if it's anything like zmud, it's a piece of crap... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: it's adequate. but, mushclient does everything you're likely to need, and is free T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Oh, thanks for your answer, I get it now! T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at A Giant Kraken. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: mushclient used to be a lot worse T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not really anything like zmud anymore, santher T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's based on zmud, but with an extra 7 years of development T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is it still a buggy piece of crap coded by a 12 year old? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it has bugs, but so does mushclient T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if zmud/cmud was coded by a 12 yr old then nascar drivers are 6 yrs old :) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: zmud was garbage... was more af a hack than a win32 app T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: given that it started as a win16 app... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah and slow as a dog T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: in keep of the kobaloi, it keeps messing my runto to zangar, the one going into the ponds, i have already done kobaloi goal, but it seems the pause where you are "lowered into the ponds" is messing up the runto. is there a way around this? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how are you doing the runto? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i use winkle's extended runto "xrt zangar" it stops at "Kobaloi Subterranean Fish Ponds", because there is a pause when you are being lowered into the ponds when you go "down" T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: block the exit that is a shorter path.. or better yet find the open clan exit to zangers, that will fix it. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And this is why you shouldn't rely on Winkle's mapper bots. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Should at least grasp as to how it works, why it does that :) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you can do that same thing without winkle's plugins... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: any plugins to track how much gold you get over a time period from killing mobs? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: nod, its actually a MUSH Mapper command, mapper goto T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the likely reason is that instead of sending each direction separately (ie, lots of spam), it sends all or part of the path via the RUN command. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: statmonitor tracks gold T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: his just streamline the mapper T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Well, Winkle's bot or Mush's built in mapper bot, shouldn't rely on it T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: okay cool thanks =D T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: rignt now im averaging 3100 gold per kill T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all you have to do is adjust where it goes, have a script activate that sends you through and then waits for the trigger line, and then have that trigger issue the rest of the walk. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: delays can be added in with cexit... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Find the zangers clan exit.. problem solved. Otherwise you can level lock the path through the ponds so mapper reroutes you. Id go with the open clan exit to zangers though :) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i have all the public clab exits mapped :) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: clan T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: me too, but I also have a point-to-point runto so I don't have to go through recall. Handling the weird exits to account for delays and fails and can't-go-there's is better than going the sometimes-longer way around. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: What a joke...The Apple vs Samsung case was in Apple's backyard (6 miles from Apple headquarters). This was such a joke of a trial. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why was it a joke? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i take it apple won? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple won some...1.05 billion T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, a decision was made. Time for the appeals process to drag things out some. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that'll help buy some more suicide nets at their factories T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah reminds me of the apple vs ms crap T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple does not have much going for them outside of the iPhone and iPad markets. iPods have dwindled in sells. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: only in this case they both stole the idea from ms and now apple acting like they invented it.. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The funny part is if Samsung drops Apple as a client. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that was expected, given how phones have borged all the mobile-device markets. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Apple stole the idea of Icons from Xerox. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: reminds of how ford copied dodge trucks years ago and tried to sue dodge... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's one thing to offer a phone that does everything but that the "everything" is much crappier than dedicated devices. When the "everything" gets to be as good or in some cases better, then most people don't need all those dedicated devices. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah most new phones don't even get "making phone calls" that easy... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: read "most users are too dumb to handle a smartphone" T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what, you require a college degree to handle a smartphone T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: no, basic 4th grade logic. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the touchscreen is one of the dumber features they came out with, since it debuted on a screen far too small for the average thumb size. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: they should lose some weight T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: even the larger phablet screens aren't much better. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: sorry, cant hear you over the awesomeness of my note T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I hate the touchscreen on my blackberry. It results in a lot of pocket dials. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Purrrrific Growltiger is agreeing with that Legendary Gruagach person again... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Even when I lock the damn thing, it still pocket dials. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: bb.....3rd world lol T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Meh, it's what my company gives its employess. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you don't mind the nag screen, there's some free slide lock apps to prevent that. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Employees, rather T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: my friend works for verizon and they said he can choose any phone, and he got a stupid bb.. some people love those things T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like bb T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like the blackberry well enough. The only issue I have is that no mud clients exist for it, due to their stupid proprietary OS. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: blackberry is the best mistake I've made in my life. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no useable ones, at least. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: there is a ssh client T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I like my bb torch, but I love my note T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well to be fair, mud clients on a phone is kinda rediculous anyways T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: depends if your clan has an app developr for the scripts T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: how much do those smartphones cost to run a month T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: if your clan can port the scripts from mush to mobile device its win win T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I like the physical keyboard on the BB, I wouldn't want a touchscreen keyboard. Just too weird. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: depends on carrier but i have 3 smartphones and i pay $215 with verizon T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher rapidly nods twice at Starling, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you go contract-less, I think you can go as far down as $50/month. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why do you need 3 phones? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i travel a lot.. i dont want to dick around with podunk prepaid T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: plan rates tend to be at least 1.5-2x that, though. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i like to have new phones T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Dope dealer, obviously. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: plus i run businesses T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: and drugs duh T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: "businesses", definitely a dope dealer :) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Do you have a "ho phone" too ? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: See... business's plural.... keep asking.. and well get more vague answers ") T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i have a lot of investments lol..they just run stuff past me T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: could also be a streetwalker. Would need a way to check in with the pimp. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: i do have a ho phone.. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: and that number changes every 6 weeks T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Should use burners, youll last longer. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: send me one T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: all my shit is legit i dont have to worry about throw aways T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for someone with a lot of money, wouldn't it make more money sense to set up email accounts? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: wat T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: How does logging work in cmud? I don't want to log all mud output, I just want to log whenever somebody ignores/unignores me, and attach a timestamp to it as well. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use #WRITELOG T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or the old-fashioned #FILE/#WRITE. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Hanslanda. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Hm, I will try those, thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: LOGGING IS EEEEEVVVVVIIIILLLLLLLL T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: #WRITELOG requres the log to be logging. #FILE 1 log.txt;#WRITE %time("hh:nn:ss")"text";#CLOSE 1 would work. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if we got rid of logging, though, you'd pop out of existence like a quantum particle. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and we'd have to refer to you as LanceArms forever after. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not evil, just creepy T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is that like descartes being asked something and starting to answer "I don't think"... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: With the new ignore notifications, I want to see who is ignoring me and when :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: there ya go starling T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I haven't looked at tonight's notes yet, but someone's gotta post a note about another bot being nuked, referring to lance T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling thanks Kinjin heartily. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: did he bot? :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there a way to gag the sfail messages when you typo? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way you gag anything else T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or can turn off spelltags in general if you're not using/gagging them T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well when i don't typo, it's gagged... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: fix your script to work on all sfails :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ugh T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i didn't write it :/ T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: prolly just need to change the trig to allow for a negative first argument T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Abelinc doesn't know what he's talking about. Just delete the trigger and all your problems go away. *srun* T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah... been trying to avoid making my own... but it looks like i'll need to T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or at least figure this one out T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just {sfail}-1,0,8,-1...may need to escape the { and } T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing is variable in a nonexistent spell sfail T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i dodn't even know why it shows up... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it shows up because the first argument is spellnumber T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a spellup script should never be casting anything with a negative spellnumber T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like i said... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: why is it even there at all? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz it's still good to know that you didn't successfully cast what you were trying to cast T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i guess the "You do not know a 'blah' spell. isn't clear enough... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I just said how to gag it... T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a gag is just any trigger, with "omit from output" checked T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm that was easier than i thought... no escaping needed :) T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: now i try and cast wro all i want :P T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err can T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: in the create table method for mysql, what is the purpose of the l T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: primary key? T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: The two major functions are: The primary key on a table designates which column(s) is(are) guaranteed to uniquely identify a row. The PK is also indexed by default, so lookups on that are usually faster than using other (unindexed) criteria. T3/r7/2012-08-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: on stupidly massive tables usually faster can often be seconds faster... though too many keys and efficiency is diminished T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bleh T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how can you get mp3's playing on your website without having some invasive controls muddying the page? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You shouldn't. Music on webpages is stupid. Same goes for autoplaying video. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there's a flash app that expands the controls after you press play T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice at Ranrr, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how about answering the question that I asked, not the one you wanted to answer? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: tochy Tiggy ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: decided I wasn't in the mood T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you are number 6 T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: who whut ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm guessing Tigernuts ignored his 6th person. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: here it is.. the yahoo webplayer is just a tiny play/pause button T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Scurv to the rescue ! I love that u r Oz ! T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love people who use full words and not idiotic syntax that displays laziness. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll have a play with the yahoo one, though i'm not convinced it'll do what i need it to T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Maybe you're better off writing your own embedded player. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: convey meaning - - do it efficently - ? prob ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It doesn't convey meaning efficiently (or in most cases, at all) when you butcher words. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: but what is your take on those that use those idiotic syntax that displays laziness, etzli? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hah. Let's not go there. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: aww cmon - don't B shy .. :P T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: k. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh wait, hold on. 'ha lts n0t g0 der' T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: since when is a zero more efficient than o T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're on a phone, tons. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: yeah that numpad is mudddy water ! T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yahoo player is dependant on Apple Quicktime T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, if you're on one of those obsolete phones that require you to hit 6,6,6 to get o. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: frag that quicktime shite tiggy ! T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: grumble T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Tigernuts: http://dribbble.com/shots/592096-Minimalist-Web-Player ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: anyone got a hidden talent ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, but you'll never see it. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: because it's invisibility ... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: will just skip it T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: or irrelavence ... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: opps soz T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: soz take that back T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there is a wordpress plugin called powerpress which is the one I was thinking of, example here: http://www.poetry4kids.com/blog/podcast/i-taught-my-cat-to-clean-my-room/ T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: my appologies T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, here: http://tinyurl.com/2dhzc5l T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Top 20 audio webplayers, with images. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: now to complain about browsers that refuse to check for presence of page changes when you hit refresh T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: *glare firefox* T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: aha http://www.macloo.com/examples/audio_player/ T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that is the best one T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: html5 was a big failure with audio T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I like the streaming mp3 player with dropdown playlist, though. Hmm. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: anyone familiar with the term pissing contest ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: familiar, yes T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: can you be my uncle Tiggy ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: When did tech become the babysitter channel? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: twice removed - once by the fuzz ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: awwww pleassssssssse ! T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: did we get a babysitting chann ? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ergo .. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Error 404 Request not found T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wow windows update sure is screwy... had like 29, installed 4 and it says there's like 5... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I hate windows updates, when I flip down the lid on my laptop it decides to install them. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah you can disable that T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm starting to se why some people just disable the updates altogether T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: time for a restore again *sigh* T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: restoring is a pain as well. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: more windows update weirdness... 35 updates... end up as "Not needed" recheck and now it's installing them... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Neil Armstrong died. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Great place to discuss that :) T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: NASA's going to be releasing the live feed of him stepping off Jacob's ladder. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's pretty distasteful T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda smirks at Tigernuts and asks, "too soon?" T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The US Patent Office has really caused so much crap to be allowed in the Apple vs Samsung trial. They should have never allowed several of the patents to be allowed. Apple copied Palms from the 90s. Where is Palm suing Apple? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: the USa Patent Office is run/guided by corrupt career seekers and corrupt insiders and corrupt politicians -- they are seeking/receiving favour fom those that benefit from the corruption T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: politics in the USa is guided by crass greed --especially the Republicans, even the Democrats are affected T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Please go to debate or something for politics. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or discussing the intricate mess that is copyright/patent law T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: using winkles spellup plugin... how do i spellup someone else... spellup (target) ain't working, so it's keeping me from getting to the mud commands T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there an easy way using a CSS to have a class indicated for a table element apply specific formatting to not just the table but also the child th/td elements, or is there no way around having to indicate separate class attributes for each of the children? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it doesn't have that function... just make a spellup other alias. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: are you f'ing kidding me? the stupid plugin prevents me from using the mudside spellup commands? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: huh? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: never used the plugin but have you tried spellu target so the alias doesn't gag the command to the mud T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think you can stack tag defs, Mye. like, table,td {stuff}, if I remember correctly. May want to go bask in the awesomeness of w3schools.com, though. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mudside spellup doesn't spellup others either... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: didn't think to abbreviate, thanks T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: that worked T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: yes, it very much does T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: read help spellup, thanks T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mudside spellup doesn't spellup others either... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: yeah it does T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: never had problems with wink's affecting others T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: spellup : Spellup another person. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i want to apply different formatting to the th and td elements.. stacking would apply the same things to all of them, right? T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: guess it was changed T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: using spellu instead of spellup worked, what a ridiculous limitation T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep, but it'd work for the common properties, so that you only need to specify the specific stuff in your other defs. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not bad, should have it's own forgetskill list though... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: quickly testing, stacking applies to both.. i want to say "this is a type of table whose heading/data rows have this type of formatting" but not interfere with non- tables... not sure i can do that without specifying classes for each element (i'm looking for the equivalent of a scope-resolution operator or specifying a xpath expression, which there might not be one in CSS) T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: ah, found it.. space instead of comma.. yay! T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: question for anyone familiar with mysql and displaying data... is it possible to break down the data in a single table column, if it's got a large amount of data? to format it I mean. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: new to this, trying to find info about it online, but I'm not very good with search engines. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: they hate me :( lol T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you could select a single column easily enough T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how are you looking to format? you can do transforms within the select statement T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: I dunno, ATM the info is just being plugged into that cell as one big list... but it will need to be formatted when it comes out. T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: just not sure how to go about it... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: it'll prob be inputed as an ordered list T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: best is to make it not just one list, but can do it as one list with different transforms... T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: not sure what transforms are I'll have to google that to see what it is, I'm VERY new to db stuff T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it wouldn't be called transforms, that's a generic name for, well, transforming how something's looking T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: without telling us real info, I can't get more detailed than that T3/r7/2012-08-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have a db that is syslog output...our wireless controllers dump syslog data to it...I use a custom select statement to output logintime, loginname, buildinglocation...where the loginname and IP are all part of a rather large syslog field, and I use cases to change IP to building name T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kleine Bot Krypteria Tech: anyone know bbssh client? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kleine Bot Krypteria Tech: guess not T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: Hello is anyone useing the Mush client. If so my question is this : Is it possible to run to the name of a room if you've already explored it? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the aard client allows for this T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: it is T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: really, how do I go about that? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: I new I had to be wasting time staring at a map over and over. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: the mapper if im not mistaken T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if you are using the aard-recommended verison of the client, with maps and fancy coloured boxes, type "mapper help" T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: No I have the mapper running. I was just wondering if there was a way to search for then run to. Because places like the underdark there is a lot of little boxes to scroll your mouse over before you find the rite place. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: "mapper area roomname" T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: says that is not a command T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: type 'mapper help' for the list of commands T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Derpindave Tech: ahhh thanks T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: how do i toggle gui for winkle's? it somehow disappeared T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle has a few different plugins...have you tried typing "ww help" or looking at the part of his website for the plugin you're using? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: does anyone know if using the php function include() is capable of handling web addresses, or is it only directory paths? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: probably just paths, web addresses wouldn't really be include-able in php T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: So is HTML easy ? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Easier than any programming language. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topbilling Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pizza cake T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: HTML5, now that's another story. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It seems to be an umbrella term for HTML+JavaScript :P T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or maybe it's like othello :-) T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: anyone know why my Winkle search and destroy isn't visible? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Suon Tech: heh :) nm.. got it T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Orruk Tech: updated to newest version of aardwolf mushclient and need help getting my map to show in the main world window, map tags are off and i disable the ascii mapper as a personal preference. how do i get the normal map to show within the main world window? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: okay this annoying... useing MUSH on a mac. normally I can ctrl+c something in mush, then goto an mac pragram and comand+p and it will paste. but that seems to have stopped working. any sugustions? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: still works the other way, from mac to mush T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: highlight, right-click, copy? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check your wine settings for clipboard sharing T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: that wasn T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: that wasnot working either.. but it is now. and so is crtl+c. started after I went from mac to mush. hmmmm T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: good idea abe.. if I had any idea how to do that. LOL T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cupcake Tech: ooo, found the prefs abe.. cool T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: where do I Send a trigger that I want to play a sound when a phrase pops up? World? Output? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, thanks Abe T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need anything in the action part if you use the section on playing a sound T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or you can send to script and use PlaySound() T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ok, I only set the trigger and a sound ans have it send to world. We'll see what happens. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mush plugin/script interaction question: how can i pull variables create and used by plugin to be able to use then in script of alias ? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/function.php?name=GetPluginVariable T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone on that uses potionquafferv2 ? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: http://www.cyberguys.com/product-details/?productid=18458 T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: an ingenious hardware solution to a software problem T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Unless it's mechanically reaching out and moving your mouse, it still seems like a software solution to me :P T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, it's acting as a USB mouse. I get it. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: rather than fix your screen saver settings, just wiggle the mouse! T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone know why potionquafferv2 stops allowing you to set the healdesc/manadesc string ? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: never heard of it T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: its a plugin bundled with bast's :/ T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: essentially assigns heal/mana/buff pot string for keyword (used to get/drink item),description(used to identify items in bag) and provides alias to get T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and quaff T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: setting the healdesc allows it to figure out how many you're carrying T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: or when you buy one, etc. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah ... but any time i try to set the desc it doesnt work T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: it ends up as an empty/null value :/ T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what are you typing to set it? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 'healdesc Tri-Lunar Elixer' T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: think you need an equal sign, iirc T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: healdesc = blah T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but it's been a while since I've used it, and I've only used Onitsu's version (or however you spell his name) T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: same deal ... spits out -> Healpot Description (What You See Item As) is: T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: this one says it is onoitsu2's work wiht some bugfixes by bottomfeeder T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: wow. that sounds old T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: do you have a newer/better one ? one that allows use of item types other than potions ? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ol' Dirty Fiendish shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i was trying to modify the one i have to allow use of pills (like Cheesy Nachos from bard clan) T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that part of the modification worked fine up until the point i tried to change the potions i wanted to use :/ T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i had this problem last mort and someone suggested i do something ... that worked fine until i remorted :/ T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while it wouldn't work to count, would this let you set the desc: healdesc T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while it wouldn't work to count, would this let you set the desc: healdesc Tri Lunar Elixer T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd let you know if it's the hyphen screwing it up T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: doesnt work :( T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i even tried adding junk 'asdf' to healdesc just to see if it was working at all ... and its not ... as far as i can tell either the regex isnt firing on the string or the assignation isnt working right :/ no clu which it would be T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: regex for healpot alias is -> "^(hp|healpot|(healpot\s?\=?\s?(.*?))|(healdesc\s?\=?\s?(.*?))|(healtype\s?\=?\s?(.*?))|(healnum\s?\=?\s?(\d+)))$" T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if it's showing you a message, then it's matching on the alias T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, that regexp looks fine. Something else isn't firing properly T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: isn't there a current status or some alias like that in there? T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (been like 5+ years since I've used it...) T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there is a 'pquaff list' command that dumps name,desc,type,num to output for each type of item T3/r7/2012-08-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and that displays things as it should except that the description string is shown as empty T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: guys any pros in gaming hardware? have some questions T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I just built a gaming rig, but my priority was cheapness over raw power. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: So I don't know how much help I can be T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: i wonder what processor of I7 line is good and is not really expensive? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I'm afraid I went amd, I didn't do any research at all on the i7 series. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra got an AMD 6-core processor... I have to keep 2 of the cores turned off or it'll overheat :-S T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: i'm looking for I7 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I got an AMD phenom 2 quad. My only complaint is that the fan it shipped with sounds like a jet engine. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so change it T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, I changed mine to Vortex Plus by CoolerMaster. It's not powerful enough or something -- 6 cores overheat the CPU with mprime. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: my "gaming rig" is i5 sandybridge notebook, without dedicated graphics card. It works okay for most titles I'm interested in, if I turn details to minimum T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I know, I'm just lazy, and the annoyance hasn't overcome that yet. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Covenant: I would just look on amazon, and balance the Ghz against the price until I come to a nice medium. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: processor usually doesn't matter these days, gfx does T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mmmm... Turned off 2 cores, ran mprime with 4 threads... Temperature is 56.5 and slowly rising. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Murphisto is agreeing with that Huan person again... T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Depends! Huan, have you ever tried playing Dwarf Fortress? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It needs CPU very much. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Well now, building a rig for DF is a totally different matter :P T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: yeah, DF is something of an exception in this arena. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Murphisto, how would you go about that? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: your facebook rig. only needs a net connection, a hard disk for viruses to buffer up stolen data, and a microphone and camera for the NSA to spy on you T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and a lobotomy tool to make you even more stupid than you are now T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: because last time I played it my AMD 995 wouldn't handle the raw number of cats, clothes, and temperature calculations. I never even get to the population limit. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my wife does a lot of those crap Zygna games on FB... actually needs some horsepower for all that flash crap to be playable :P T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, you've got the important stuff covered T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So, what kind of computer would be best for DF? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Cizra: I'd skip the graphics card, and nice motherboard, and dump all my money into cpu T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Big single core, big cache, fast ram. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Murphisto is agreeing with that Tharnin person again... T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no idea what df is T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Well, not single core, but fastest clock speed, regardless of core count. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Cache size? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How 'bout the fact that most time gets spent on memory latency/bw nowadays? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I think tharnin's fast ram suggestion is supposed to help with that. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: timings over spd T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: unless your overclocking bigtime T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I haven't seen any fast ram suggestions? What did I miss? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: "Big single core, big cache, fast ram." T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ahhhhh how did I miss it? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yesyes T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not a game, i take it T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: Tiger: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I seriously doubt that the person asking the original question is trying to build a computer expressly for DF anyways though. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Nod, this is a pretty serious digression. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: No, but I might want to do it, so I changed the topic :-) T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Cizra, 1st thing would be what's your budget and do you need just the box or a complete setup(key/mouse/speakers/monitor) T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Let's assume the budget is more or less unlimited, for now :-) And just the box as the rest is not very relevant. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so go for the fastest clock cpu you can afford, and memory with very good timings... looks like memory is the biggest hog for DF T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like a souped-up version of Lords of Midnight without the graphics T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the wiki states that latency is indeed more important then speed T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Which wiki? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:System_requirements T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: it also has an obscenely difficult interface. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: That's good to know. I thought my cpu was holding me back, but now I can just get some better ram :D T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: most games show a marginal diff between ram speed... 1333 or 1600 is within a few % of 1866 on benchmarks... timings for DF are important though T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if you overclocking the cpu you can get better timings out of faster ram normally though T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Speaking of RAM, last week I ran a program that used 19.3 gigabytes of it :-D T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: holy cow T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Note to self: Don't leave mprime running with no supervision if your CPU is known to overheat. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: just got the aard client on a work pc, how do I enable local echo? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: just got the aard client on a work pc, how do I enable local echo? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: alt+0 check echo my commands T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: AWESOME thanks T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: might be echo my input depending on version os mush T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: that took me to the correct options menu T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: enabled within T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: np T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so what is the benefit of the aard mushclient over the standard? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: it is made for this game T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: no need to have a ton of scripts T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: custom designed mapper, stat window, communications log (separates channel output) T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ocho Tech: it has built in maps and hp,man,xp bars T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: so does the standard you just have to edit them alittle T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: well minus the xp bar T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shakes his head at The Dragon RandAlthor. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone got a clue how to append a semi-colon to the end of every line in a document T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: depends what editor you're using I suppose... but doing a regex replace of "\n" for " T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: depends what editor you're using I suppose... but doing a regex replace of "\n" for ";\n" might work, if you have the option T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Copy the text to an editor like NotePad++, do a regex for find $, and replace it with ;? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: damn client ate my ; T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: manually? semi doen end semi down end semi down end T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or \n, yeah. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it depends, does the semi need to be after every carriage return, or every line? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: at the end of every line, which doesn't appear to be after every carriage return T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I adjusted the margin in the text document T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'd do this manually but there are hundreds of lines T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm downloading notepad++ now T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: and if you change something in the middle, it will skew everything off and you will have semis every where T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: really I just want to put a really long text document into an aardwolf note T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need semicolons for that T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: can you recommend the best method plz T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just paste it in as the multi-line document T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the problem is the line length is too long T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: semicolon doesn't help that T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: use the aardwolf note formatter? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I need to reduce the length of the lines somehow though T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: where is the note formatter? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/note.php T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but semicolon at the end of what the line already is, doesn't reduce the length... T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the semicolon would be AFTER the too-long line T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Abe, it's weird, but I copy and paste the reduced lines, and when they are pasted they revert to the original length T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn off line wrapping in your editor T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: reducing the margin of the document evidently doesn't change the location of the /ns T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, nor should it T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those searches/replaces for semicolons wouldn't change the location either T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: wait? you're trying to insert semicolons at the line-wrapped endings of lines? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: margins and wrapping are lying to you about where your lines actually end T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, but mush would parse it as a new command T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no gregor, it wouldn't T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not where you need it to T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Abe, you might be misunderstanding what I mean, because I usually use this semi colon method with shorter notes, and it works T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I'm not misunderstanding you in the least...trust me T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: so you're looking for something that will take a full-paragraph note and break it into 80-column lines? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Abe, you may be misundersanding because I'm not explaning correctly T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no gregor, I understand...you're misunderstanding when I say semicolons won't work T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I normally use semicolons abelinc T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: and it works, no problem. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, but you use them correctly...this WILL NOT use them correctly T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's why they won't work...not because the semicolons themselves won't T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: truly...trust me...I know EXACTLY what you're saying, why you're saying it, and why it won't work T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no clue what you are saying, but I'm just going to turn off line-wrap like you said, because I know that will solve the problem T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the other problem is that there is so much text I just insta crash when I try and paste it into a note T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will show you the problem, it won't quite solve it, but it'll let you see the problem to solve it T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: line-wrap doesn't give you real newlines, so you can't use a regex to do a replacement T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: copy 50 lines, paste 50 lines, copy next 50 lines, past next 50 lines T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, but with line wrap turned off hopefully I wouldn't need semi-colons T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: you'd need some sort of complex look-behind with a space locator... *ponder* T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never need semicolons, you just need to know where newlines are/need to go T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes agreed, I just have to work around things that I don't instantly understand T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: brute force I believe it is called T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, when composing in text editors, make the editor longer than 80 lines, and then manually hit enter before you reach it T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you don't have manual linebreaks already (other than new paragraphs, etc.), the note formatter is likely going to be the easiest method. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you make the editor itself shorter than 80 and it linewraps, it's lying to you T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I'm going to try somethign..... T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I love text editors with a "insert hard break at wraps" function :-) T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is that an apple thing? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Doubt it. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: textwrangler/bbedit on Mac have it (best text editor on the planet), I know EditPadPro has it on Windows...dunno if there's a 1-touch button for it on notepad++ (I use EPP) T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: hrm... odd that it won't work in Notepad++ for some reason, but regexr shows this as working: replace (.{1,80})( +|$\n?)|(.{1,80}) with $1$3\n T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that breaks every line, at 80 or less, on a space T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: I wonder what about that regex makes it incompatible with NP++ ... it looks fairly standard T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Speaking of apple... I see that in Cecil B Demille's the Ten commandments, that his TABLETS were rectangular with rounded corners... this predates Apple's iPad. Can Cecil sue for $1 billion? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: if you want to see it working, http://regexr.com?31v5h T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can sue for anything these days T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk at his saying. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: What other shape might a tablet take on? I know there was more then that involved but that was one of the biggies. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no it wasn't T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: triangle of course! http://allthingsd.com/files/2011/12/triangle_tablet.png T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks for help all, aard note formatter was the easiest way for me T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: is there a special entity in vbscript for '=' like & for '&' or < for '<' T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Speaking of apple... w T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: hi all. just signed up to be a tester but when i go on the testing port it recognixes my profile but says my password is wrong. Any ideas on how to correct this? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use your last password T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: i did T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go back even further T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: i logged off the main port and logged back in with the same password T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: i can't i've only had 1 password T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pfiles are only created there occasionally, although there's now a command over there to update your pfile T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Archeron Tech: ok cool. any idea what the command is? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, you'd have to be logged in there first, and it'd be in help testcommands T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone using winkle's spellup script? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of people do T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never ask if someone knows something, uses something, can help with something T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask your actual question T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: actual question: Do you have your clan skills loaded in it so that it keeps them up? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a special command just for that T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i switched from ww spellup to bast'ts ... because i couldnt figure out hwo to add specific spells to winkle's ... such as pcleric/oracle -> focused vision T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Boiling BloodBath Tech: haha T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: read the help, it says exactly what to do T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I've had my clan skill set but it doesn't keep it up. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Set it using the command, it works fine. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I use it with no problem, all I did was follow the instructions in the winkle helpfile T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note: it'll only work with your v2 clanskill, NOT your v1 clanskill T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: does it toggle them on or off if you repeat the setclansn command? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your spellup clanskill napalm works, AWOL is a utility skill, not a spellup skill T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I don't know, but you shouldn't have much problem testing that. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I'll play with it T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks as always T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so SetClanSn 606 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: was there a way to set pclass specific spells ? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like what? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I've had no problem with getting the plugin to recognize pclass skills/spells that are included in the normal spellup command T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing special about pclass-only abilities, any more than any other T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: focused vision :/ i could get it to cast the spell but couldnt figure out how to make ww notice that it fell off T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that's what I entered, but I also entered '52' for awol. But since awol isn't a skill then it might have cancelled it out T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: focused vision is just another spell with recovery, it should work fine as long as it's not set as noauto T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there is no recovery on focused visiou T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Is focused vision even a buff? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: Spell : Focused vision (03:08) T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I'd personally not want it on most of the time T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: why not ? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because I'd want it on when it's useful, rather than being stuck with a recovery when I'm looking for a target T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: again ... there is no recovery ... i keep it on all the time T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is definitely a recovery, its duration may just not be a problem T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: where are the recoveries listed ? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i just cast f-vis and You do not have any recovery times. T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's listed as recovery #38, the "focus" recovery T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there anyway to set 2 different entrances to a zone ... 1 for portal 1 for non-portal T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: alias something to mapper walkto T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: within winkle's xrt, no T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er, how is my solution bad? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyother way youknow of ? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper itself doesn't care about entrances to zones T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't even need mapper walkto for what I believe is the main reason for the question...mapper goto is fine T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: well if i try to xrt to citadel ,it tells me it cannot go there because entrance is set to portal location :/ T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and im not quite high enough to use the portal T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: So change the entrance T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You can set portal level with mapper, as well T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: and change the portal level T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yea T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: realized that's a better solution T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: setting portal level wouldn't fix the issue T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i can 'xset mark' a room to flag it as entrance to zone but then ill have to change it back when i get high enough to use portal T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his issue is that he's trying to run to room 14997 rather than room 14960 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: alias citwalk mapper goto 14960 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: tier a couple of times :p T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: riddim: working on it ... abe: good idea T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using mapper walkto would disallow ANY portals to be used, while mapper goto 14960 would still use eligible portals T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: if i just created a new portal/alias to the bottom entrance .. think tha tmight work ? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what would that portal do? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: pausing cit issue for gq T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no cit issue for gq or otherwise T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're trying to tell the mapper to goto a room for which there is no path...the only "solution" to that is not to do that T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: instead, tell the mapper to goto a room for which there are paths...no jimmying of portals to the start will help...the mapper already knows how to get to the start...just LET IT T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: anyone else play around with Nightly? I find it funny a test build of a browser is more stable than IE9 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: our payroll software company told us to use IE9 to access their system. Ridiculous... T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as opposed to what? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: as opposed to IE7 or IE8 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can imagine why, neither 7 nor 8 are standards compliant, 7 especially so T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, ADP's admin interface didn't work in IE9 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: IE9 doesn't run on XP. Only Vista/7/8 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what about it? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: use firefox T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: we use IE7 for access certain customer web portals. IE8 will not even in Compat mode T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: evil jspx sites T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Wow, I walked into a Office Depot. They have their items at a 5% mark-up over what I found at Staples. lol T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: anyone have a free second to help me with the mapper on MUSHclient? T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what kind of help T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: my knowledge is limited T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: I think it's simple. If there is a door in my way, my mapper goto won't work, it'll run into the door. And if I do mapper cexit open east T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: or whatever. it'll acknowledge the command, but then when i do mapper goto xxxxx, it'll just do open door and wait there T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: use two semicoloans T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: use ; T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: use ;; T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: nod 2 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: gotta use the cexit (custom exit) but gotta tell it what to do AFTER it opens the door T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: just one ; will seperate the commands incorrectly T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: example mapper cexit open e;e T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: ? I'm slightly confused T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: with 2 semi's T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: ok no longer confused, tyty T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: my second one didn't type T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mapper cexit open east;;east T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: mapper cexit open e;e T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: oO won't type two T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Steelburg Tech: KK, got it. Thanks a bunch guys T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Gnar, you need to use more semicolons :P T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: e; T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: more definately not the answer =P it cleared everything behind the semi's when i used 3 T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: create alias opr -> open ; T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mapper cexit opr e T3/r7/2012-08-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So, the Mars rover found a pocket of gas with heavier-than-expected methane gas on Mars...until they realized that it still had gas from earth in its test chamber. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just realised I haven't put a pdf viewer on this new box yet - I usually use pdfxc, but lately it's become a bit bloaty - what do you guys use? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chosig Tech: xpdf T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: google chrome T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use chrome...not a fan of the native viewer :-( Was actually what led me to realise I hadn't installed anything yet :-P T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: When modelling databases (with SQL Power Architect, but that shouldn't matter), how do I do the foreign keys, which way do they go? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for anyone famliar with php, and mysql... I'm still learning, and I'm confused on how to convert this, echo ''.$row['posted_by'] T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for anyone famliar with php, and mysql... I'm still learning, and I'm confused on how to convert this, echo ''.$row['posted_by'](semicolon here) echo '' T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: for anyone famliar with php, and mysql... I'm still learning, and I'm confused on how to convert this, echo ''.$row['posted_by'](semicolon here) echo ''(semicolon here) to the same exact thing, but making .row['posted_by'] appear as a link sorry about the repeating messages.. forgot to pull out the semicolons. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: use a double semicolon to display one in the mud T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: oh ok. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or start with a semicolon (disables semicolon parsing for that one command) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if mush T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: echo ''.$row['posted_by']; echo ''; T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: heheh much better, I'll remember that for next time. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: echo '',$row['posted_by'],''; T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A cute Yulian Tech: ; that is so cool ; bah T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and Mars, if you wanna be able to read the "view source" output in browser... add \n to the end of echos.... echo "text\n"; T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i found that much easier to see when i had something screwy :P T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: why won't extended runto work with diatz? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: what's extended runto? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle's mapper extender's xrt T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: got it to work. xset mark. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: starting to get real sick of winklewinkle T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, that's how you set every area, so dunno why you wouldn't have done that to diatz :P T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's actually the one of winkle's I like T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: did not have to set it with the other areas. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sounds like an intersting script... can you set runtos for rooms within areas? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ozzy appreciate your response thank you :) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy: all it does is use the normal mapper goto for pathfinding, you just set a room to be considered the 'first' room of the area, so when you xrt it knows where to go...the mapper itself doesn't let you goto an area, just a room UID T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i dunno why i learned it the way i did, but all my echos use double quotes and () .... T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: echo(" td align='center'f_nt color='magenta'" . $log[0] . "
-br" . $log[1] . "/td\n"); T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i cant send font tags in zmud :P T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone have issues with non-delivery of hotmail messages today? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: anyone know the rove client? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone know why PartitionMagic sees my second HD as "Bad" , yet windows xp sees and works with it just fine? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: an old copy of PM ? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope, version 8... :-( T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: if PM is in Dos-based mode, Windows may be hiding the drive from PM (per some MsConfig option) ? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm...it sees that there IS a drive there, but doesn't think it has a drive letter and just marks the whole space as literally "Bad" T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: what type of drive does XP say the drive is (Fat32 or ..) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: NTFS, as is my primary HD (C:) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: and what type of physical drive T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: does PM handle NTFS T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xyliz Tech: is the drive encrypted or compressed or something fancy T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Nope and not partitioned either...that's why I'm even messing with it so I can plays with Win8 Release T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: I mean doesn't have multiple logical partitions T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gah, steam forums are ghastly T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hl2 keeps crashing while playing a 3rd party mod, think i can find any help for it? can i balls T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i give up, they've fucked source up so that it won't run reliably on xp anymore T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even crashes when you switch task out of the window T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahhh for simpler times when things worked properly T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: can canonical name records be used to set up subdomains? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ok here's my issue with winkle's spellup. I "SetClanSn 606" and I get "You do not know a 'napalm' spell." when it tries to cast it. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: any suggestions for good free hosting sites, with php, mysql, and no ads? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: you're asking too much lol T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I would normally say the same but I have a feeling there are options out there... T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: My Mushclient ascii map seems to have stopped working. I see the map when I type map and all the plugin shows is "Map will appear here once you start playing" All tags that should be on are on. Anyone know whats wrong? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload the plugin, double-check the very last line of "tags" T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: try mud command "automap" T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: or I probably misunderstood the question T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Reloaded the plugin, still doesnt work. Bottom line says Yes. I also disabled triggers to see which tags are showing, I can see the {chan} ones but no {MAPSTART} or {MAPEND} yet its on. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bottom line never says YES T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Did you toggle 'maptags' ? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: I mean it says On, sorry T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Yeah, its also on. Still no tags when using the map command. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the map plugin, select 'echo map in main output' T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the message stays even when moving rooms? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: on the theme of maps, it is possible to get the map room# in the status bar? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's entirely possible, yes T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: easily? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd just have to set it up T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: I dont see an option like that when its right clicked, and it keeps saying the message even when moving. Aard seems to have stopped sending the map tags to me. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not hard, just need to make a plugin (or edit an existing statusbar plugin) to accept the OnPluginBroadcast from the gmcp handler T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: are you using the standard ascii map included in the aard package? It should say "echo map in main output" Maybe you are using another ascii map? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Im going to try disabling all plugins. Its the same one in the main package, yet a slightly older version. Im using an older version of the mushclient package. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: all plugins disabled, I see every other tag exept the map tags. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: that might be ok, the plugin could turn on/off the maptags itself T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: try typing maptags manually T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Its on but I still see nothing, with and without the plugin. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: The plugins window shows its version 2 of the ASCII mapper. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest downloading the latest aardmush...connect to Aard with it before moving any of your stuff over, ensure that it's working properly...then move your stuff over T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: Alright, gonna try that. Hope it works :D T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Commwolf Tech: New version works :D Thanks everyone T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: if I wanna connect to aard on my iphone, what app do I need? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: First toss the iPhone away. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because, you know, that was completely helpful of Trisha. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anything that connects to telnet on an iPhone, you'll be good to go. Alternatively, you can use teamviewer and access your home computer and use the computer client. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Thank you Etzli, Apple products are truely junk and the lastest case against Samsung just proved that. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I love my ipad T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Doesn't mean you have to be a prick about it. It's okay to not like things, you know, but if someone's asking a question, the proper response is almost never, "Your is junk, toss it." T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Well this belongs on debate channel and not tech. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Etzli I am not putting Apple down, just there business stratgies, I think they have some good products myself, but there business practices is what I question. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Ashiya, there are a few mud clients for the iphone now. There is a new one called TMC that is free. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: trisha: We all, just now, saw you type both "Apple products are truely junk" and "I think they have some good products myself" T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: as door stops yes. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: sorry to put that in my former statement. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Forgot T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you're just backpeddling all over the place today T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no u T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Nah, Apple products are overpriced and just pure junk, but make nice door stops. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: The sad thing is I once owned an iPhone, worst phone I ever had. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: so I know what I am talking about. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fiendish once posted a link to YouTube. Plain and simple, "It's okay to not like things, it's okay, but don't be a dick about it. It's okay to not like things... Don't be a dick about the things you don't like." T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should take it to heart. ;) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dashiell Tech: I'd never own an apple, but that's personal preference. Some people like it. Some people also like eating raw haggis. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dashiell stares at the sky. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: I had Macs, I had the windows computers, I prefer the windows systems, but now I moved to the Linux systems. Why, because free enterprise, Apple is trying to lock down a market. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the neckbeard is strong in this one T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Like I said before, toss the iPhoneie in the trash and get a real phone. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: meh the real issue isn't the phone it is how much you pay for service T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: and if you want to know I am on the ATT network. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure whats your number? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If your only answer is to toss the phone, then why answer at all? Ashiya didn't ask "What phone should I get to play Aardwolf through?" She asked "What program should I use for my iPhone?" *shrug* Oh well. Some people. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh well if that is what this is about, mudding while driving is dangerous AND illegal T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trisha Tech: Etzli didn't I say this should of been taken to debate awhile ago? Let those that want tech answers have on tech. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...everyone disabled Java 1.7, right? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: no why T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Whats wrong with it? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Another exploit I presume.. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Full on 0-day exploit, all browsers, all O/S, 100% available payload T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: welp, excuse me while I go uninstall it haha. What about 1.6? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 1.6 is not affected T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: all version of java 7? or just the most recent 7.0.6 T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: using webdevelopertoolbar I disable java all the time by default T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And it only affects in browser, not desktop apps T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yeah, all versions of 1.7 T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Patch apparently not expected until Oct 16 because Oracle are retarded T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Wow, why let a 0-day sit unpatched for that long? -_- dumb... T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Almost as bad as HP >.> T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because 'that is their patch schedule and it is as perfect as Jesus' I believe is the reason T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Excuse me while I go grab this 0-day and make my own 'sploit. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A couple of white hat groups have made unofficial patches, but they are only giving them out to businesses who request them (as the patches completely reveal what the exploit is and how to use it) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: But you can find the whole exploit anyway. Not like it's a secret anymore. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ok here's my issue with winkle's spellup. I "SetClanSn 606" and I get "You do not know a 'napalm' spell." Why is it trying to cast it? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Are you trying to cast napalm? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Napalm is spell 606 T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Or rather, is the plugin trying to cast it via the 'cast' command ? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: type "slist" and then look for the spell you want to cast T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: this is in Winkle's spellup script. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't use any of Winkle's bots T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Dude, it works right, just follow the instructions. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the plugin is trying to cast it even though I have it set using SetClanSn T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: who is this mysterious winkle person anyway T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it won't work right...there's a glitch on aard affecting it right now T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: he's the 3rd person I was told to check out for legal scripts T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you look at slist, napalm's entry is 606,napalm,0,0,0,-1,1 T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that last character needs to be a 2 T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I see T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'll post to bugs board T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, it is legal to use a trigger to recast it? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I had to look up what the last digit was in that output. :) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help slist, it's what tells the script if it's a spell (cast it) or a skill (use as a command) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's expressly telling the spellup script to use cast, and then rejecting that syntax T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: an impressive script. Simple and effective T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks abe T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, there's a dozen of the same available T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: well, I'm a Lua newbie so I like it :P T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: don't cry, but I spend more time in Python, Java and PL/SQL these days. Hard to change gears. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks for posting the bug too, Abe T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is there a way to enable/disable groups in MUSH? Such as EnableGroup("groupname",true)? T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define "groups" T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can put triggers/aliases in groups. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mean like classes in zc/zmud, then yes T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EnableTriggerGroup, EnableAliasGroup, etc T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: EnableTriggerGroup("group", true/false) T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: EnableAliasGroup, EnableTimerGroup, EnableTriggerGroup T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, thank you. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Makes my job easlier. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: each type of "thing" is a separate group T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how are you guys accessing the test port? Are you running a separate MC install or are you running another world in MC beside the live? If the latter, then how do I get my plugins to work on a second world? Thanks T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use a different client T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I think that would be easier T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend a separate MC T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: sounds good, thanks T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: uhh T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: just create a second world file T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: and then load your plugins in that world too T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yeah...copy of the mcl, and the mapper file as well - works no problems T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: there's no need for two mushclient instances T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you c&p you don't even need to reinstall the plugins T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you do need to make sure your mapper db filename matches your world name T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, yes, whatever you copy does need to match itself :-P T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's two different things, so it wouldn't be matching itself... T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I rarely recommend leaving the name " Copy" that Windows assigns T3/r7/2012-08-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my pw isn't working on the test port. What should I do? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: free ipad mud client T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: i may never sleep again T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: what can be done to remove the horizontal line that suddenly appeared on my lcd screen? i tried rebooting, but nothing happened. it's still there. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Replace the screen? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: is there no remedy for it? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It is a line of dead pixels...you can try massaging the screen, but 99% of them time she's dead, bro T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: them = the T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There are supposedly some software that can "fix" dead pixels. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lol Etzli :-) It' T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's a physical fault most of the time, and if it's software issues the massaging and turn off/turn on will do it too T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Vakieh. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: ok, thanks Vakieh and Etzli :) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea... if the lcd is just old and been off for a while, the pixel software can help, i hav a bunch of p150 thinkpads it worked wonders on, not completely, but a lot came back... http://www.majorgeeks.com/Dans_Dead_Pixel_Fixer_d5571.html T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shlic Tech: ok, thanks, ozzy will try that :) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: should be more simple. You get +18 to all from tier pin alone, more eq choices... T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone know how to set up a subdomain with dns records? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: if I have a directory that has a file that is using the require_once function of php, and it's requiring a fild in a different directory that is below the current directory, how do I list that. currently I just have a second copy in the folder, but that seems a waste of space, but I can't seem to get it right T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: php is the medium btw T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: require("sub/file.inc"); ? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or require("../file.inc"); for the other direction T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: ah 2 periods, I used 1 maybe that was the issue :) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks :) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easier to set an includ dir in php settings and put everything in that dir T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sweet, Pandora is back in Australia - now I can use it without the VPN, which slowed it considerably T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ini_set('include_path', '/home/account/public_html/include'); T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Anyone else having problems reaching TPB with Google DNS or is it just me? -_- T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Is it considered botting if you create a mapper cexit that buys a key or kills aguard for a key? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you didn't build that T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dispel Majic Tech: killing, definitely T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no I didn't. Just asking T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, yeah killing, duh. What if it just buys a key/pass? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not botting if you have boobies T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: or if Obama tells you it isn't T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: then I'm not qualified lol T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm just making mapper notes that tell me what to do. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: any tips for getting to Vidblain locations easily? I want to get to Sendhia faster. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Is there a way to force restart one of the old iPods? It's stuck on this screen. The screen was there, and I paid no attention to it when I put it on the charger... But taking it off this morning, I see it's still at the screen. Moving the options doesn't help, just makes a noise. Holding the play button does nothing, either. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pay Steve Jobs's estate some money T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: No. D: T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone vaguely familiar with dokuwiki tell me why it bombs when it tries to process css.php? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocashforu Tech: has anyone found a working inventory plugin for MUSH 4.81 client? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: seems like mushclient turns off after 15 minutes when i close my laptop. is there anyway to make that time 30 mins? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I don't think it's mushclients fault, it doesn't care about your laptop lid T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: More than likely, you have hibernation or sleep set on your laptop. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Usually, when that happens, your laptop, in an effort to conserve power, will shut off your network connections. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll want to mess around with your power options. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: but i still seem to get off 15 minutes off my quest timer everytime i close my laptop. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Your power options can be modified to shut off at 15 minutes, 30 minutes, hour, etc. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So your laptop, not getting usage after 15 minutes, says, "Okay, time to shut everything off to conserve power!" T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I tend to keep mine "Always on" even when on battery. *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mine did it with wireless connection. Turned it off as soon as I closed the lid. That means that it cannot get any packet to mud, not even the RST packet - so the mud thinks for the next 15 minutes that you are still connected. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Huan. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocashforu Tech: im trying to load bast's quest miniwindow but it's not showing up, i've tried reinstalling the plugin already. can anyone help me? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: useful plugin but glitchy a bit T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nocashforu Tech: no way to fix it? any other plugins that has that same option? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: do you also have the tabwin plugin installed? It doesn't always show the window, until you are on a quest T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: wtf is the verb for when you limit bandwidth? I forgot T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: throttle T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: or cap? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: no thank you, I'm not into S&M T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: actually it was throttle, tyvm :) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's capping when it's limiting data T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: throttling is slowing the connection T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But the way some ISPs handle is you have a "cap" of 5gb (or whatever) and everything after that is throttled. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: time for me to boast that i have unlimited 100/20 mbit fibre that isn't capped or throttled. 24 euros a month T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: grats :) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: (also includes tv and phone) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: nice! not sure if 24 euros is a lot or not, but still nice T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: about 30 usd, maybe? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: wow that is nice! T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: I'm getting a new comp, so I have a question about programs. If I coppied the whole Mushclient_rave folder into the folder where all of my programs are and hit MUSHCLIENT.exe would it work? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Entire folder yes T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: And that would work fine for all programs that are in a folder with all of their info? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in general, modern applications will NOT install like that so you shouldn't do that. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Mushclient works like that, but yeah won't work with other programs most likely. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: I was just asking because I don't actually see an install file for Mush or the other client I run. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Most clients are fully portable, they don't need registry info or the like T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anything that has to write to the registry, install dlls, or store files in %PROGRAMDATA% or %APPDATA% will potentially not work is copied directly T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can only speak to Mushclient personally. Straight copy of the entire Mushclient folder is all you need for all settings and plugins etc. As long as you didn't install any plugins manually from another folder. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: agreed T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I zip up my MC folder and move it to my other systems when I make changes to plugins, aard layouts, etc T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I am almost exclusively MC now. I was using tintin++ on my Ubu netbook but I've just put too much time into my mapper and stuff to live without it :) T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Somebody help me shut up Google Chrome's auto-close command. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I routinely accidentaly hit it, the command to close down the Chrome window, while writing long posts on forums and have to rewrite them. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to remove it from Chrome? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What's the command? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I don't even know. It's some weird hidden command Chrome's support site doesn't even list. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I think it involves Shift or CTRL. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: maybe you should stop chording keys while writing forum notes T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I've never heard of one like that.. The only command to close Chrome I know of is Alt-F4 and that's pretty hard to accidentally hit, T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have fat fingers. I'm lucky to MISS F4 when I hit Alt. :( T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: that only happens when I type with my penis T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarkthos Tech: there's also ctrl+shift+w T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: True story. I type with five mini-chopsticks on each hand. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Gotta be CTRl+Shift W. I think it's when I accidentally hit Shift or CTRL while hitting W for some reason. T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know a good spellup plugin and a good quest plugin? T3/r7/2012-08-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: finger winklewinkle and bast T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: i need to get a printer and i'm looking for one that has cheaper ink (printing cost over multiple pages) would that be laser ot inkjet? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: or* T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: Laser costs less for high volume printing T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: and the print is more permanent T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so... i guess if you don't have the default text size in windows, resetaard is useless... T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kanmuru Kirua Tech: thanks Bezaleel T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: np (o: T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Any Symfony users around? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anyone know if mush is multi thread ? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is not multithreaded T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: any idea why not ? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: making some scripting engines to cooperate with threads is pain in the behind T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why should it be? :P T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Because it's a telnet program, would be my guess. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 1 thread to handle actual client server interaction ... another thread to process plugins ... heck multiple threads to handle plugins possible T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I think that's the real reason. Why would MUSH need multiple threads? It's not doing anything intensive. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ^ T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that way if plugins cause bottle necking in processing it wont actually effect the client server interaction T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: for all the 3D graphics, duh T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: They shouldn't, you're parsing small amounts of text. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Does that actually happen (bottlenecking)? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush does more CPU intensive activities than most high end games - they tend to go GPU T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: some plugins on some computers boggs them down hella T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Like, if your script is causing a bottleneck on a modern processer, your script is doing something weird. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The DB's I run take more processing power than Skyrim on Ultra, Crysis 2 on Ultra, etc T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: It seems like it would be way less development work to write the plugins better. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Bast's StatDB can be very intensive, a fully loaded gmcp mapper as well T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: My guess is the DB plugins you are using could be written much more efficiently :) T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's mainly because of disk writes, it has nothing to do with processing power T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: only bottleneck I see is when starting the client, and it's bound by disk IO (I suspect it's because all the sqlite open/query/close, repeated many times) T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so why not give plugins a different thread and have them capable of running on seperate processor from main exe T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Because that's a huge amount of work? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Because sychronisation is tricky at the best of times T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: synch* T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and because when he wrote it some 10 years ago, threads weren't half as reliable as they are now T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Writing multithreaded code is a huge pain, and it makes everything else you do with it later on much more difficult. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: synchronization doesn't even make sense. The text arrives sequentially, and trigger must fire one after another T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Schnapps, I beg to differ. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: modularizing makes it harder to maintain ? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: To me, it's much easier to launch a task and know that the function returns without blocking. And the work gets done eventually by someone else. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I however, agree with both Huan and Schnapps, the question is not "why not do it?" the question is "why do it?" and their are no positives that outweight the negatives with "why do it?" T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: <- is a proponent of well-designed thready systems T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: he would have to rewrite the entire client, it wouldn't even be MUSHclient at that point and we see how well the went when Zugg went with CMUD T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Cizra: if you start from the ground up with that in mind, that's true for many cases. In this case, since you're trying to sync up with the user/buffer, it's more complicated. Also we're talking about an existing piece of software, so to do it "right" would be a full rewrite. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: a full rewrite which would offer little performance gain except in a very small minority of users T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: who are somehow writing CPU intensive scripts that parse short txt files T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ive coded multi-threaded server applicatiosn that deligate different varieties of information to the specific threads setup to handle the informaiton ... allows for synchornous processing of data T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: I don't see the Mud as being hugely resource dependent. But if it utilizes only 1 core, couldn't it slow down othere apps that are running? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exactly the opposite, really T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Imalish, then develop a new MUD client :) T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Imalish / i suck arse at windows development :( T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heck, AARD is not multithreaded, and it seems to handle all of us just fine T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: So don't develop in windows. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Imalish :P thats something i wanted to ask lasher about T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Aard runs on a server grade CPU, however... T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and bezaleel, no T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: There are plenty of libraries allowing easy portability. Qt, GTK2, whatnot. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSH not being multithreaded wouldn't impact other programs T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: "server grade CPU" often means _less_ per-thread performance, rarely more :p T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because your OS is multithreaded T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}*Christian Bezaleel Tech: ok T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: There is little reason to "upgrade" to a multithreaded server/client is there are no performance issues. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so while MUSH is only on one core, that leaves all the other cores available...and while it's only on one core, it doesn't even get to hog that core T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: how do you think it would work if the processing load of the plugins were handled by a seperate thread than the communication ? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why bother? I can't imagine telnet takes up any real amount of CPU. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Only if you telnet to the chargen port... T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Curious, why do you want to suggest to Lasher that he rewrites Aard to use a multithreaded environment? Are there server side performance issues that aren't related to disc i/o or bandwidth? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, one reason to multithread is so you can do (slow) i/o in a thread without affecting the rest of the application, so it could improve aard performance. If that was necessary. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: multi-threading server can allow commands and channels to run parrell :/ T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Back on my old pc I would have said it was needed...running Mush on an overclocked i7 and SSD I no longer notice it :-P T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Imalish, consider that "running" channels doesn't take much time, and synchronizing the threads and schelduling and whatnot also takes time! T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The mud is pulse based - any multithreading would probably screw with that no end T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: actually not. It can be done just fine, for limited tasks. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: the combat is pulse based ... processing of commands in queue from user based on the pulses could be handled seperately from non-combat functions T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No, combat is round based, pulse includes all functionality afaik T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: My mushclient is taking 110000 kb of my memory work. is it anyway to make it go smother? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Have it store less lines in the output window. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: how do i change the lines? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: mine is taking half a gig in memory T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: That's probably what is taking up most of the memory, because most mush clients aren't very resource heavy. And If you are using MUSHCLient its under Game>Configure>Output T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush has some pretty serious mem leaks, especially in the GMCP mapper, I've found T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right now after 4 hours my Mush is at 227meg. Biggest I've seen was after 9 days, 1.4 gig T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Mines not even at 30k yet T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i just shutdown and restarted mush ... went from 580mb to 82mb T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: memory leaks? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: my input => server reaction is like 3-5 seconds at time T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That would be 99% network latency, if not 99.99999% T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Sounds like a bad connection.. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: That has nothing to do with multi-thrading, or CPU, or whatever T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Try opening a command prompt on your computer and pinging google T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: then try pinging aardwolf.com T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: See how many ms it takes to ping the server T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to google.com Min: 15 Avg: 20 Max: 31 T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, what country are you in... T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: if google has significantly less ping then aardwolf try a tracert, see which hop is casing the lag. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: With that latency, the moon? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm in AU and manage a 300ms ping to aard, give or take T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Ping to aardmud.org Min: 62 Avg: 62 Max: 63 T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: in the us ... Minimum = 54ms, Maximum = 59ms, Average = 57ms T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oregon US here T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: mines about 54ms ping. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: -> google 20-30 ms T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Try pinging when you have the problem... I am not sure it's network latency, could be client problems too. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. same as me Imalish :P T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Can't imagine mushclient is doing that though, unless you built a horrible plug in. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you may have too many plugins. I know that at least eqdb analyzes everything you send to the mud to do some replacement, and if the analysis includes sqlite queries, it could cause a lag... I just commented it out T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so either its al T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i know why i get my lag T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Triggers: 2010 Aliases: 494 Variables: 801 Paths: 0 Macros: 58 Class Folders: 523 Mapped Zones: 290 with 31747 rooms. Menus: 8 Tabwords: 80 Status Windows: 6 Directions: 10 Buttons: 30 T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i put lines to minimum 200, and still it' T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: i put lines to minimum 200, and still it's at 75000 kb. is there anyway to make it go even smother? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 75000 kb of memory is perfectly fine... T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's pretty decnt for a client with scripts T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The memory used isn't going to make it run faster or slower, RAM isn't CPU isn't HDD/SDD writing T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's nothing compared to a browser :P T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/sshot.png T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Well the memory actually could make it slower if it starts paging. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right now I have Mush at 227, Chrome at like 1gb total, VS at 1gb, and Photoshop being a beast at 5gb :-P T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: But only when it starts paging. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: skype is using 142MB. dunno the hell it's doing with that T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Apps today tend to be memory hogs. Lots of programmers today don't learn proper memory management. Memory is too cheap. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: It probably takes a fair amount of memory to log everything for the NSA. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why bother with coding for memory management if it's not needed? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: irssi is taking 63MB on my vps :\ T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So you can run more than 1 app at a time. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Because it's bad practice, plus it makes apps slower. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, wait, 39M. 63MB paged. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: so ive had a constant ping running ... for the most part it stays around 60ms ... spiking occasionally to 1k-timeout ... that just killed me in fact T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "help wimp". 1-second pings shouldn't kill you. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: 5 second lag in battle can kill tho T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: unless wimp takes you to even worse room T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: real men use wimp 0 T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my mapper without any support scripts does absolutly nothing T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is mush opensource ? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the client, yes T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Mushclient? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I think that it is freeware, but not public domain or open source T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it is open source, what's the URL to download the code? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: umm, google it T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I did, seems to be freeware, not open source. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: source code is available on github, if it's enough open for you :) T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Found it. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Technically MUSHclient is Open Source, however you can only access the source code through a subversioning engine, making it require a bit more skill to compile from source, than fetching a tarball and building." T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you need MFC to make any use of the source T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there is no technically to it, it is open source, open source has nothing to do with how hard it is to build T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: that answers my question .... should i get the source i am free to attempt my own modifications and to allow others to use my modified version so long as i provide original license information T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It depends on what license the project uses. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If it's on github, can't I use git to get it? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bast: I was pulling a direct quote, which said "technically". *shrug* T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ah, I read subversion instead of subversioning... T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: from gammon.au ... src -> http://www.gammon.com.au/files/mushclient/src/ T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: k, and there is a git link at the top of https://github.com/nickgammon/mushclient to use git T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: source is bundled in gzip compressed tarball T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: starred on github :) T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know of a free flac to mp3 converter? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Audacity? SoX? http://lame.sourceforge.net/links.php T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra uses mplayer + lame T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: dbPowerAmp is absolutely fantastic for large-scale FLAC -> MP3 stuff, worth the money is it's something you do commonly T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ummm. Whats' so fantastic about it? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Does it copy the metadata tags or something? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's easy to use, handles large batches well, and yes, it copies the metadata tags. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Can set up new folders based on tags, blahblahblah. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I mean obivously if you have a solution that works, stick with it, just saying it's fairly cheap and I've had a lot of success with it. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Bloody Bladedge Tech: the screen on my LCD tv got damaged, are there places that will buy it for the parts inside T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: Is there a way to turn off line wrap or make the output wider? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: what client? In mush, it's in output configuration, bottom of the screen, "[ ] wrap column at number X" T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: The Aardwolf-Mushclient. I dont have that checkbox ticked in World configuration, but it is still wrapping. I have turned off Wrap in the right click context menu as well. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: The Aardwolf-Mushclient. I dont have that checkbox ticked in World configuration, but it is still wrapping. I have turned off Wrap in the right click context menu as well. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: hmm... looks like the checkbox is broken and doesn't affect anything. You can click "adjust width to size" to fix it T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Meeshka Tech: Ahh, good idea. Thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can make the output wider by just resizing the window. Wrapping won't change for previously received text, but it'll wrap at the wider boundary for future stuff received. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: the checkbox is not broken. you just don't know what it does do. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Huan shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: end effect is the same T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: also manually wrapping or unwrapping the aardwolf mushclient package is a really silly thing to do, for the reason given by leinei T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, if you don't want folks using it why keep it around? T3/r7/2012-08-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ol' Dirty Fiendish Tech: what? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Numenor Tech: can you play aard on iphone? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duncanyoyo Tech: Go to Wikipedia, click random article, click the first link not inside [] () "" or {}, repeat. Eventually every page comes back to Philosophy. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just to verify, "^$" matches a blank line in MUSH, right? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: yes T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: also check out: global prefs -> general -> regexp can match on empty string T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm not a regular user of MUSH, just converting a script over for a friend, and wanted to double check. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: if i gag lets say a mob say in mushclient. Omit from output. ignore case. on the word i want to be ignored. the word dissapears, but still shows up in the communication log window. is there anyway to ignore it from the communication log window too? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The comms log uses gmcp, if you know Lua you can get in and hack in a check T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Pretty sure you can just toggle it off in the COmm log too, no need to hack. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can toggle the whole channel off, you cannot toggle the word off T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Oh a word T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's trying to gag something...if you didn't want a whole channel, you'd just type the name of it :P T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod. Like a Mob that says something everytime you walk passed it. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Turn off mobsays capture T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can yeah T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: spams the communication log windows pretty good. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah only way to prevent that, with one word, is editing Fiendish's plugin. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Why not make a suggestion to change the offending mob in game though, if it annoys you :) T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Mendaloth, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: there are several offending mobs. but yes, that would be a good idea. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they should at least stop the spamming once you've opened or closed their tasks T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap ABel T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I can live with little ones like the lemdagor guy that reminds me that I can buy another knot T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: one example is the mobs down in wyrm. they still spams even when you completed both wyrm1 and 2. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'd just not capture mobsays...the comms plugin is not the most readable of files, being what looks to be a Frankensteinesque collection of several people's work T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It could be done, but then you'd have to repeat your work everytime Fiendish changes the file. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My sneaky edits have stopped me updating for a good 9 months now :D T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I'd just rebase it on top of his changes *loves git* T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or suggest to him that he adds a gag wordlist feature :-) T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at Huan, in complete agreement. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah that or suggesting the offending speech gets removed is the best option T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you could add your current trigger plus add to that list in order to handle cases like this T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Some really annoy me, the really long ones that take up my entire comm log, but I just don't care enough to do anything. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I s'pose I should do the wyrm goals before I tier :-) T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can you just gag the offending text? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, starling just missed the entire context of the discussion :P T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, you make it ignore that T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mis T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has anyone ever managed to record a video file of an ingame source-engine product? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I am looking for some zmud help if anyone is still using it T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's going on? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I use cmud, also maintain my old 5.55 scripts T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I have some broken scripts that I really liked using and I really didn't like mush tried it a few times now just don't like the feel of it T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What zmud version, and what are the scripts supposed to do? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: 7.21 mostly spellup and capture windows T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Spellup scripts tend to break due to message changes. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Capture windows, are you using tags? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: yes this is what I figured happened T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: no not using tags T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably best that you do use tags for the capture windows. That's what channel tags were designed for, at any rate. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: most of the capture windows work just a cp gq one that lists the mobs in a cap window that isn't working T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, that's due to recent changes, too, I believe. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: something that changed while I was away last year before the recent changes actually T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They've changed the "Kill blah mobs" T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: they were sort of lumped together triggers, I am not very good at this hehe and I did it a long time ago T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll need to find the individual GQ/CP triggers that contain the line "You still have to kill" T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: any new spellup scripts around? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: for zmud T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I was using yashiros which works sort of still T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I used to have one, but now I've converted it completely to Lua, so it's only usable on CMUD. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: ok T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: With spellups, you'll probably want to find one that utilizes spelltags. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: that was the one thing I did like about mush client :P the spellup T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's probably a couple out there, but I'm not sure yet. You can just use the in-game spellup command, though. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I mostly do that actually T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I liked the respelling auto thing T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, that's the only downside to the MUD commands - no autorespell. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: exactly T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: I have played this way so long it isn't a huge deal but the cap window thing really irritates me T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I wonder if Lasher will ever add that in. :p T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: One or two simple triggers with the builtin spellup command and you have autorespell. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But it's never that simple. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Works for me. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Smoochable Kharpern Tech: exactly T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Need to check for combat, etc. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I do that, but it's still pretty simple. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I've been programming since the mid 80s, that might be why I consider it "simple" T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav shrugs helplessly. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Spellup x second after the tick works pretty well as a very simple autospellup that anybody can do with minimal effort. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: One thing I would like to know is how to use a number's bits as flags in cmud. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tank Tech: I am using winkle's search and destroy.. I accidently moved the window to far up and now I can't get it to move at all...just stuck? any ideas? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doink patiently twiddles his thumbs. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kinjin Tech: xset reset gui T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, second edition of regular expression cookbook just came out T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: other than just pressing the up arrow, is there a way to see a list of all typed commands on much for that session? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: got it T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ctrl-h for home viewers T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: anyone know how to make a gmcp repop trig? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Trying to fiz your bot, Arystul? :P T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alain Johns Tech: Fix, even? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: precisely T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Those bees were asking for it. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I'd be surprised if GMCP provides that information, that's just asking for trouble T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: like that person who asked for GMCP to provide a list of campaign mobs and locations T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: It does. comm.repop. What trouble is it asking for more than the zone's human-readable repop message? T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Anyone that intent on getting their trigger to work could just add zone repops as trigger matches, without gmcp. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thats how I do it, 1 zone at a time T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sen amor Arystul Tech: its got to be a very simple trigger to use gmcp which would work for all zones, I just don't know the gmcp message T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Let's see if this works: comm.repop { "zone": "aylor" } T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: According to aardwiki, that's how it looks. I assume you only get the message for your current zone. T3/r7/2012-08-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: For any help more specific, I'll duck out. If it's not tintin, I don't know it.