T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... is there any way to get windows firewall to block outgoing connections and notify me when something tries to connect (and allow me to okay it)?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: it should be doing that by default >_>
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: if you have it on
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: by default it allows outgoing connections unless specifically blocked
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: a third party firewall would be better for that sort of thing
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or a real firewal
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: aw dang. Lousy windows firewall.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: (using windows 7) start -> type firewall -> goto advanced firewall settings -> click 'windows firewall properties' -> select approriate tab for which ruleset you want to modify and change the outgoing option there
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: back in undergrad they used to provide symantec firewall, which made that sort of thing easy. Now I have no idea what kind of spyware, keyloggers, or other funny stuff is sending my stuff to unknown places
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: setting the rules manually doesn't seem to work too well. Some programs seem to rely on other stuff, which I can't enable unless I know what it is...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i prefer to keep my win 7 pc spyware free
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I use spybot s&d, but I wonder if that is enough...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It is for scanning, but not on-going protection
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use mse
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: nothing ever seems to show up on scans, so either my antivirus is doing its job, or neither is doing its job...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: got paranoid after one of my email addresses was hacked
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that was most likely someone you knew :P
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I hope it's a brute force hack. I guess if nothing else got hacked it probably doesn't have anything to do with my computer though...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... not many people I know personally know of that email address though... most people I actually know use my school address
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well... unless you count aard people, but only the imms can see my address.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi cowers in a corner and whimpers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: here is how to proceed: reformat computer, install MSE, run with proper user privilages, change your e-mail password and move on
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I changed my email password... but reformatting my computer is a bit too much unless I know it has been compromised...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if I can figure out what connections are being made it would help me see if there's anything suspicious
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and when you're done installing win 7 disable the "remote" services
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I'm still using vista
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: had a friends pc get hacked that way disabled mse and some other stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and I disabled the remote services a long time back
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: if you even suspect that a system has been comprimised you need to format it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I got all the remote stuff off, I just use Unified remote on my Android to be lazy when I'm watching shows on my PC to my TV
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh remote services are so your computer can be controlled remotely... at the very least turn off remote registry
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Sonshi, there are a lot of programs that will do that: they're called packet analyzers. They generally have a very sharp learning curve. If there was an easy way to detect 'rogue' traffic it would be simple for a "compromised" system to be fixed, blahblahblah.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Wireshark is a popular one though, but there are plenty of other ones
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: aw. So no quick way to tell huh.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: No, but if you figure it out you'll be rich :P
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But seriously, just back up your files, change your passwords, and move on. If you're seriously worried, just reformat and keep on going with life.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I felt safer back when I could just block all connections except those that I wanted...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: You can still do that with just the default windows firewall.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, if I can't find a quick way, I'll just cross my fingers and forget about it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: software firewalls just give a false sense of security anyways
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, the problem is, I don't know what stuff to allow... I used to have a firewall that would prompt me to create a rule whenever a program tried to connect
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but at least it would reduce the chances of bad things happening, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hardly
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that's... depressing.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: all the rogue connection needs to do is piggyback an approved app
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like say ie
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Here is how to be safe: don't use old versions of IE, don't download weird crap. That will solve 99% of your problems.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ack, so it can just seize something else, like firefox or mushclient and go through? Oh well.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: All it needs to do is have an commonly opened port even
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Which is super easy to figure out
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so in plain english, I suppose that means that it's easy for malware to fit an existing rule?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I almost went to jail for messing with an old friend. I got a trojan installed on his PC, put gay porn up on his desktop and locked it out and did that for hours. His mom flipped out and the rest is history. But all it took was literally his IP address, the software on both ends and an open port. You honestly need less to do damage
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Not really, the malware would need it's own depending on the firewall.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Sonshi, serioulsy, if you're concerned you have been haxored, just reformat. Otherwise, move on and run MSE and don't download dodgy stuff.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: He's right
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rtek Tech: replay
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: If you ever think something is up, you got a virus or have been compromised.. Seriously compromised..
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or even better, install something that is more resistant to being hacked
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Format immediately.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah use another OS and you'll spend so much time getting it to work like you want you'll forget all about win 7 security :)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and then you'll get some windows app that doesn't run on wine... fun times
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just spent the last week upgrading an imac (3 times) so i could put win 7 on it... only to find out i can't with this imac...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Pre-intel?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I am clueless why anyone would want to spend all that money on a Mac and put Windows on it...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no it's intel something to do with a lack of a bios or something
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: to get the worst of two worlds?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: can't get it to booot from the win 7 install disc
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: gaming usually, Trurien
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or the occasional piece of propierity software
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Like, as much as it sucks, there is sometimes horrible software in the business world that absolutely needs legacy windows support to run.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Proprietary software is useful... but installing an OS just for one or two programs?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... given all the nondelivery spam the spammers who hacked my account caused, it started quite a long time after I had previously logged in. I think I'll just believe it was brute force and cross my fingers.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If it doesn't run under WINE, then yes, why not? Dual booting is painless enough nowadays.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nothing wrong with windows either
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: boss needed simply accounting... gonna have to tell him to buy a new laptop or something
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It is, of course.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm all for using Windows on a custom-built PC.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Or you can run a VM, but that hurts performance for gaming/other stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It's your choice.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But to buy a Mac and then put Windows on it is a little bit strange.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, i would spend all that money to buy a high-end t-series thinkpad
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i didn't buy the mac
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I didn't say you bought it.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah how much does VM software run?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Free
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Virtual box
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: oracle's vmware is free to use
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: he can probably just buy some crappy cheap laptop, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: vmware also has free versions
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: vm just tricks windows into thinking it's on a pc?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: would probably cost less than several days of your time too
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no, it sections off part of your computers resources to use as a different pc
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i've wasted enough time on this thing
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Kind of like an emulator
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: but not quite
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: vm simulates newcp
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: err m/c
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: by the way, it may sound like a dumb question, but I usually try not to have any other tabs open when I'm logged into something in my browser (firefox). Am I just being paranoid, or is this a good thing to be doing (or not doing)?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no effect whatsoever
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Tabs have nothing to do with your computers security.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: In some cases, they will effect performance, but it usually isn't an issue except in extreme cases.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm.. so if I'm logged into something, stuff in other tabs won't be able to do anything bad to whatever I'm logged into? So I'm just being an idiot, I guess?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: could have, if there was exploit for snooping across the tabs. Chances for that are not high
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, i don't get the people who close the browser or any other window every time they've stopped using it for that time. doesn't matter if they're launching it again in 10 minutes, they still do it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ah. Good to know!
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, if you have malware on your computer it doesn't really matter how many tabs you keep open
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: paranoia born from not knowing how these thing work...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you want to be safe (and very paranoid), run a virtual machine with a minimal linux install and a browser and launch that from a snapshot every time you want to be absolutely sure
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: This is overkill, unless you are in charge of a Fortune 500 company, work for the NSA/CIA/FBI, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim :p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... in future, when I have more money, I might get a separate laptop to deal with more important stuff, like bank accounts and such
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sigh... poor student syndrome
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Just use a secure password, dont' download dodgy software, don't run as admin/root all the time. It really shouldn't be an issue.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, which reminds me... when windows prompts you to run something as admin, does it really help? Couldn't malware sort of spoof you clicking on it or something?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: very unlikely
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: use an admin password
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i mean, you don't need to do something like that when you distribute malware
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I still use separate user account (and browser of course) for accessing bank... but my paranoia faded a bit over time, I access paypal from my normal enviroment
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: people are retarded and persistent enough to click the button for you
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then when logged in as reg user you'll be prompted for password
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I separate my bank accounts, so the risk is lower anyway. heh
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how bad is your bank security if you need to be that paranoid?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I just check my bank account from time to time. If I were to ever see a purchase my wife or I didn't make, I would call my bank and deal with it and get a new credit card. NBD.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I don't know, my computer hasn't been hacked before, and none of my bank accounts ever had any problem, but... I hear it happens to people, which makes me paranoid! heh
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i log in to most of my e-services with my smartcard. good luck with the 1024 bit rsa
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just use common sense, don't pirate software, use an av product (like MSE) and disable java in your browser
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I use symantec instead of mse...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i would also disable flash via noscript, but it's too much for newbies
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: rsa its eassy to broke dagnir :P
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir comforts Sonshi.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is it worse?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the worst
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's basically malware itself :P
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: universities seem to trust it, though...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I use no AV... can't find any for linux
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hogs resources, doesn't do anything and very hard to uninstall
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: clam av, huan ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sonshi... Those decisions are often made by bureaucrat not technicians
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir rapidly nods twice at Daloran, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: figures, doesn't it...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: ive been hacked on muds before....then i got hacked by the fbi...mudders arent scary anymore :)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: what did you ever do to the poor fbi?!
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, "hacked" like in the movie hackers, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said, Symantec does make some pretty decent enterprise level AV, from what I've seen..... But its not the stuff you go pick up at best buy =p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: With one of those clicky programs which have progress bars?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and MF, rsa is not easily broken. your spelling is broken but that's about it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: that's good maybe for filtering mail passing through the box, not that resident resource hog people usually know from windows
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dag.. which RSA level did they recently break with the ps3 farm? I forget
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: rsa is easily broken... once you have a quantum computer!
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 768bit, ala google
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: couple of mudders hacked my phone, flew in, used my camera and gps to find me...hanging out at the bar band
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Boy band bar?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, sure, you can crack one hash with an |bercluster if you have access to the physical chip
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but to actually steal my card and then crack it? my bank account isn't worth it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: there's a polynomial-time prime factoring algorithm on quantum computers...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: all the bands around here have one girl in em
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Prolly not Dag. And its maybe a misunderstanding on my part about what it is for RSA being cracked.. I assumed it was similar to having a rainbow table
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and a mitm attack while i auth with a 1024 bit key? lol no
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so if they manage to figure out how to build powerful quantum computers... I guess we'll need to find something better
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there is also quantum crypto ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Did you know you can fix Nvidia graphics cards by putting them in the oven and baking them?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And by 'fix' you mean...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: True story, it worked.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "fix" depends entirely on how they're broken. however using ovens to reflow weak solder joints is not an uncommon practice, and not limited to nvidia cards
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I've heard that to be the case. It melts down the solder and fixes connections
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Used to use a similar trick for fixing RROD xboxes
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Sounds interesting.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I was getting artifacts on screen, removed all of the components and baked the hell out of it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: at what temp ?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: 160ish
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i do that to myself alot
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it can help when done right. have about 50% success rate so far
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So it was just the solder that needed to be adjusted?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Apparently, because it worked.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It scared the hell out of my girlfriend at the time
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i guess i'll try that as a new last resort :p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: She thought I was crazy, and still am for it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: personally, I'd rather just warranty exchange my vid card instead of baking it...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Was out of warranty
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: 160 would be Fahrenheit... i.e. 71 Centigrade?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I dunno the conversion
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the thing is that you have to fix your cooling after a successful reflow
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if out of warranty, its probably out of date anyway =p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: otherwise your burn through it again
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It was, on an old box
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Was a BFG Geforce 8800 GTX
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: how long do u leave it in ?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I forget, I think it was for about 20 minutes though
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Then you gotta let it cool for an hour or so
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've never proper baked any boards. always used a heat gun
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Would a hairdryer work?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not hot enough
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Probably not
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: wouldnt be hot enough
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Thought not.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It needs to heat and cool slowly
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 1.5kW heat gun works fine tho
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Otherwise you'll end up doing more damage
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ah so  no preheating then?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: The way I did it, I hadn't preheated 
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It was more important that it cooled naturally and slowly though, else it may crack
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i've had the same success rate as people who have baked them with my heatgun technique
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: cooling is important tho
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and of course, you don't put the gun on the chip right away. you warm it a bit from afar first
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I had nothing to lose, it was an old box and either
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I would work, or it wouldn't..
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: did u raise the board off a baking sheet or put in a pyrex dish ?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Raised off baking sheet, also had to coat the sheet with tin foil
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Raised about a half inch
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Dont forget to put the other sheet in with the cookies on it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: cool i have a couple dozen cards i could try it with :p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Well duh
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: In therory.. It's a really basic concept.. The solder points have lost contact.. It's heating the material back up and resetting it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: wonder why  id idnt think of baking it :p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: because you're sane
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heat guns work better
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: could have made money for nothing :p even at a 50% rate :p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Google it though, should be complete detailed instructions online. I imagine people have done it before
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: are you baking cookies? no i'm baking my motherboard!
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: lol, that's why my girlfriend freaked
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: devak.. did she try and taste them before they were done?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: She isn't much of a nerd.. So she was like.. Uhhh
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: lmao
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: She even put something on FB about how she thought I had lost my mind
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Because I was already mad about the video card, it was my old beast PC that I got memories with
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: She was more concerned about her oven.. I laughed
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Nom nom, nothing like solder fresh off a video card.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's with backwards scroll wheel in OS X? is there a way to fix that?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Don't use anything Apple, your first mistake.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: put r in the oven! :p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: At least it's Unix-based... there's probably a setting somewhere.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But is there nothing in the System Preferences?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not that i could find
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah i found it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea how can i catch the players from where command?what should i write on match in trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: structured output requires a structured trigger
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: from "Players near you:" to the next blank line, get every line and split at 31 characters, then trim whitespace.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thx alot fiendish :)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: 'Say' from a particular person isn't showing up in my Communication Log but it does in the main window.  They are a clannie and not blocked or invis.  Any ideas?  Using aardmush
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it happen regardless of what they say?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes, it was general talk.  They were speaking and I missed it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And that's the only person who it's doing it on?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and you have tested it again? I mean if it's a one off, it could be anything?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes.  We spoke a few lines and my lines were in the comm log as were another person in the room.  But not this one individual
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You don't have a non-fallthrough, higher priority trigger on their name or message by any chance, do you?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no triggers.  They are a new clan member
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger . o O ( Now that I think about that, it's most likely not the solution since I assume you're using GMCP for chats? )
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the comm log is the standard one Fiendish wrote
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: want my advice -- turn off all trh triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: nods, that uses GMCP
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and then try it again -- also check client side blocks and everthing
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: tell your clannie to rename :)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: might have been a play on me.  Might have been create sound...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: forget I spoke.  Another layer of my newbness just fell off
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun and Logansen are exchanging secrets...... and they are pointing at YOU !!
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: I'd like to learn about making variables in Blowtorch, however, my internet connection times out whenever I load web pages. Can someone help me, please?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ancient Odysseus Tech: I know I asked this last week..but how do I turn off auto coors again
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: does zmud allow the option of running regexes that include ansii color codes?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ronus Tech: or is all htat stripped before going through the trigger
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: my do-it-my-way senses are clashing with the mush plugin setups.  How do I add a new plugin so I can get started on some?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does the mush mapper allow you to drag the map around to see what's not currently in the display area?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can scroll in and out to zoom in and out
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I use that occasionally in large areas.. like FT 2
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are doors in the mapper handled automatically or are those done via cexits?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: cexits
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wow, that's going to get really annoying fast
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: passdoor ftw
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Using Shadow race on my T0 alt.. just for that reason :p
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I have to reload the mapper to activate cexits?  I just made four for the doors in the aylor temple leading to the north exit, and they are there in the list but not working...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm guessing you didn't make them properly
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mapper cexit open north;north.  Is that wrong?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: remembering the double semicolon when you make them
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the semis were doubled, by the way.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: use 2x 
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: and they only work when speedwalking or moving around using the the clickable mapper - typing "north" or using keypad directions won't automatically run the custom exit
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah and it doesn't work with "runto" either
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: runto opens doors :P
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: runto opens doors that the speedwalk creator on the mud set it to open
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: right, which is all of them
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: unless you replace runto with your own mapper-based running function
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no speedwalks run you into a door
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: I just type, #killall, then go afk *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scurvy gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how does one see there dvd drive in osx?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't it on the side of the laptop?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that there dvd drive?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just wanna know this thing can burn or not
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: guess i need to put a dvd in it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if it's less than 7 years old, almost certainly yes
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: given the right software
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gah
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: i prefer hardware...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Yeah, that annoying software stuff eh?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm so close to getting win 7 on this thing, just need to burn an install disc
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you want to subject yourself to win7 by choice?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: gotta mess with software too much...not my cuppa tea
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: almost there
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: At least he's not subjecting himself to Vista, Tigernuts
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: still, modern Apple or Microsoft products, might as well just let them sit next to you record everything you do so they can sell it
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: Funny, thats what I thought Lasher was doing. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: he does
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah tigernuts... i'd love not to use winblows or osux... but for some reason developers like those os's
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not developers, users
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'd gladly switch if there was apps
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: yes, users.. do not curse us developers, we had no choice.. we had to feed our families!! please believe us.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah chicken and egg problem
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: egg came first
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: users don't go to os's with no apps, and people don't write apps for os's with no users
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah this thing has a superdrive... should be ok :)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the mapper portal functions are just for handhelds, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: as in handheld portals? yes, but other portals can be set as custom exits
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: you can make an alias to do anything.. and link it to MUSH with the mapper command though
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: anyone on who can help me with tt++?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Charter is so full of fucking shit, I'm surprised it doesn't leak out their TV
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Beliigrera Tech: woah watch your language
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It's crap.. I paid my balance in full 3 days ago, they still shut my service off this morning.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I find out, they put the money on another account thanks to the idiot rep I talked to.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: coming as someone who used to work for charter ... yes they suck
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I still do
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Retention
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: And all I got was a lousy $5 credit.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: And I've had 4 different DVR boxes because their equipment is crap
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is not a curse channel. take it somewhere else.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I swore once, haven't since. And I think talking about TV/Net is fairly tech to me.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: has anyone else tried adding a portal via mapper portal?  so far tried with version 4.84 w/plugins and no plugins and it says addding portal but doesn't add it to mapper portals list
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: last version I was able to make it work with is 4.81, 4.82 had the same problem as well
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it only seems to work with 1 portal...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: yeah I thought at first it was the plugins that was interfering so I redownloaded and ran it without plugins and no effect, but I tried it again with 4.81 and it works fine with that version
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: works for me.. oh but i have the 4.59 version that comes with the aard client
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i heard someone say you can use portals with aliases and cexit...?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Saerec: what are you typing?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: mapper portal
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 'mapper portal' on its own is not a valid command
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: I know that I mean this is what I get after I try to make a portal with all the commands
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: test - 44724 - 1
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let's try this again. Saerec, what are you typing that doesn't work?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: that's the message I tried with just creating a fake portal to see
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: mapper portal <name> commands, then level
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I think you are misunderstanding how the command works
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one more time
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Saerec, what are you typing that doesn't work?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: I've had it work with 32 other portals scurvy
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ok, apologies, I've never had to worry about putting portal names in
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's because portals don't have names
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: mapper portal wear can..enter
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what is ..?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: I deleted my old portal to recall, via the can and now it won't pop back up in my mapper portals list
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I cannot help you because you still have not told me what you are typing
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the only mapper sw I use is the one that takes me back to my manor... but I was wondering... why does it always send an empty run before trying to home when it is in a recallable place?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonshi: probably misconfigured
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: ok, let see I do the syntax:: mapper portal to enter a portal to recall lets say
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: Fiendish, he said "mapper portal weal can..enter"
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh well.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonshi: what version?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: 4.81
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Saerec: "mapper portal to enter a portal to recall lets say"?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonshi: type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: wear can
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: after I create the portal to recall this is the message I get fiendish wear can
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh. r1557
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Sonshi: also what you describe sounds like something I fixed in a recent update
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: wear can
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Saerec: please slow down. I'm asking a very simple question, and the answer to it is very important. I need to know exactly what you are typing.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: as I understand portals, you stand in the room where the portal leads to, type "mapper portal wear can;;enter" and then put in the level number in the following dialog box. Has it changed for newer versions?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: i think what saerec is saying is that he is creating a portal in the mapper, the mapper shows that the portal is created, but does not show up in the list of mapped portals
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't need to see "something something". I don't need to see "..". I don't need to see anything except the exact thing you are typing. Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: mapper portal <wear can;enter>
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you are typing < > ?
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: no just having problem with the two semicolons to show up
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use ;; to get a ;
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: and four ; in a row to get a ;;
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: ah ok exact command mapper portal wear can;;enter
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thank you. give me a second to verify
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: (as an asside, you should probably say the can's ID number so that other things with 'can' as a keyword don't ever mess it up)
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: eg, hold 442941946;enter
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: I do I already had it working before, I'm just bringing this up since after aquiring a couple more portals I can't seem to add anymore portals to my portals list
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Saerec: huh...
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: not sure if It's a bug or not, but to go around this problem I just do the command in version 4.81 and it works via that way and transfer the aard.db between the two
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I accidentally broke mapper portal command. Give me a second to fix it.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: lol ok so it wasn't just me lol
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish puts his finger in his mouth and says, "Oopsie! Did I do that?"
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you could also bypass it by using a sqlite editor to put them directly into the database
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: thanks fiendish for verifying, was going crazy trying to explain that I have done this before, and didn't experience the problem til 4.82 or 4.84 ... and scurvy that's ah beyond my technical saviness
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: luckily, i haven't updated mush in well over a year :D
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daresia snickers at his own evil thoughts.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not sure how I let that error through
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: lol I keep the old version that works for me which is 4.81 just in case of things like this until I know everything I normally use works
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, i wouldn't want to lose my mapper file
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: i am on 4.72
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that is very very old
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: indeed, well over a year
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll ask you why later. Right now I'm testing a fix.
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: anyone online that can help me with tintin++
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I spend an unreasonable time shouting "How did that even work??" when dealing with CSS or anything I programmed after 11pm
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if I think back over my life, my best programming has happened after 3am
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daresia Tech: l
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Saerec: there is a new download available now. snapshot r1700 should fix the bug
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hope
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: i love going to do some programming only to find that past-me has already done it late at night, but the guy never comments his code
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a really nice round number. too bad it won't last long
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: damn that was quick
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it was a very small change
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I got distracted by television
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: lol distracted by tv and it still took less then an hour 
T3/r7/2012-10-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scurvy scraps the idea of padding-top and puts in some blank lines instead
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: finally... got win 7 installing on this imac, go me! :P
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Anyone know why I would have a problem installing a browser on windows 7? I have like zero familiarity with this machine and though I'm the admin it's like i have to authorize myself for every little thing. Really annoying
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: And everytime I try to install, Opera, Mozilla or Chrome (which did work at some point), the compter tells me it cannot locate the profile
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: your windows 7 is hooped?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: No clue what hooped means
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: user profile?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: make a new user maybe?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: take a course if you are the admin
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: I mean I'm the admin of the computer I'm not a sysadmin
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Creating a new user might work, I'll try that
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyberkid Tech: where can i find directx 11 or higher? i need direct download
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: microsoft.com
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thats not a direct download riddim...but we are not google to :)
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyberkid Tech: google gives me no direct download
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: google give us everything..you just need to know how to search for it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I always thought recent DX versions are only bundled with windows, there is no separate package. But I could be wrong
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: There is an installer you can download, that will make sure you're up to date/etc.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Is there any other way to comment scripts in tintin than using #nop <comment>?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How it come it seems as if there are many more updates for Windows 7 for the laptop than for stationary computers? Or is that just because I have different versions of Windows 7 on my laptop than on my stationary computer?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's a new update for my laptop every single Tuesday (Wednesday?) but my stationary computer rarely ever needs to update.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mkej Tech: when quickly using several move commands at once, I am not shown the room name - is it a bug, or a feature?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: even when using run, you'll see the room names afaik. What is happening for you? 
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mkej Tech: I'm using Aardwolf version of BlowTorch, when I quickly tap "west" three times, only the name of the first room to the west is shown, but not the two after
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I'm sorry, I'm not sure, I don't use that client or have any way to test it. If nobody is able to assist you now (it's middle of the nigh tin the US), you should post a note about it and see what responses you get.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mkej Tech: well wait, there seems to be a newline missing - room name is shown, my mistake
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone have a script that keeps track of your pot count?  I hate grinding and running outta juice
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: pretty sure Bast's suite does, finger bast
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Bast has a regen plugin that might do it
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: its a seperete plugin from the regen one.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll check it out.  Thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: "PotionQuafferv2"
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have his plugin pack.  I'll read up on that one.  Thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I am switching to a mac over the weekend.  I am using mushclient and have some scripts.  Am I going to run into any problems getting aard to run exactly the way I have it running now? (i.e. will my databse transfer cleanly, mushclient and scripts run fine?)
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: can anybody help with a sed command I can't get to work?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what kind of problem?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: sed just a replace, has a bunch of special characters in it, and I am trying to \ them but it's not working
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: with mapper/extender how do i make mapper show a specified room ?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mapper showroom
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: then the number
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Have you tried looking at "mapper help"
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah i check mapper help ... must have not seen the showroom
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: oh my words you can't say on tech it did it again, mushclient keeps not quite saving all of my world file changes, so when it's force closed i lose some stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: For some reason I cannot see my prompt nor any echos in MUSHclient, when gmcp starts it indexes area levels but then messes with my pagination, anyway to fix this. (example if I type inv, i see nothing)
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: How do you call an aardmush variable from the command line or from an alias/trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: heya. CSS help? I need to say "inside li with class="whatever", there's an input with no class, apply this style". How do I do that?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: li.whatever { input { style goes here } } -- this doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: figured out. li.whatever input { ... }
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how do you save your layout in mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It automatically saves between sessions assuming it didn't crash. I think otherwise you would use save world details.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: layout saves itself when you save your client settings
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how do I get rid of wrapping in mush?  Something, I guess, turned on and it's breaking lines in the middle.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it's in the output part of the appearance section in world properties
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: when you have an alias that takes parameters and are sending it to script, how do you reference those parameters?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: %1-9
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: %1 and %2 etc
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hmm, is it different in a plugin?  I'm getting an error of unexpected symbol near %.  if %1 == "on" then...
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: try if "%1" == "on"
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, whoops, I think I see the problem.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: doesn't the function have to also have the parameter list?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I don't know enough about functions to properly understand your question
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: teaching myself plugin-stuff.  Currently am just trying to make one that hides and shows a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: aardmush isn't showing me there's an update.  How do I check if it's toggled off?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay.. Maybe it's just be... but email is generally considered insecure, correct? Due to being transmitted in plaintext and so forth?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: package update check
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daloran: no
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daloran: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Privacy_Guard
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: large networks of computers are generally considered insecure...
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes, I'm aware of the encryption options available. In general use though, most people don't use such things. And certainly in this case, they did not
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Email is no less secure than any other transmission.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh? How do you figure that?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause it's all monitored anyways?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It has exactly the same primary and secondary encryption mechanisms available as anything else on the internet.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: End of the day, it all ends up as bits travelling between isp's
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: And between the ISPs, the NSA!
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes, but theres a difference between plaintext in emails, and at least some sort of effort of encryption.. no?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Who said anything about plain text?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Email is plain text, Vakieh..
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I connect to my email server via TLS/SSL.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you want it to be, sure
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.. my issue isn't what I want - but rather what was done on the otherside.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I also have the option of encrypting the content of my messages with a private key.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So email an encrypted archive as an attachment
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: If you don't do that, that's a problem that has nothing to do with the technology.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: TLDR: I was emailed a copy of my own drivers license, and social security card by my employer on a form they want me to sign and email back. No concern for security was given, no sort of pgp, encrypted archive, or anything
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Then that is their issue, not email's
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.... Email is by default insecure, was my point =p
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your driver's license and social security number are pretty much public record anyway
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I get personal data from work, it is usually in the form of a password protected zip archive, and a pdf inside
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: while it might be public record, its still not the thing you want to photocopy and distribute
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Again, that is your employer being cavalier with privacy, not email - any good company should know how to protect email transmissions
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: think they would email their account numbers and passwords, prob not
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.. I never said it wasn't their problem. My issue is that they sent it without regard to privacy - by use of email without any sort of additional security.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you started by blaming email instead of blaming your employer
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No fiendish.. I said it was generally considered an insecure method of communication. Which barring any steps taken to the contrary, it is
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which can be considered true for any form of communication ever...
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you're that worried, don't tell them your email address
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tldr: email is insecure. email with pgp is less so.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It's not inherently less secure than any other transmission mechanism.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Except that it's transmitted in plaintext..
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can set up an ftp server with free access to all, is that system's insecurity my fault, or ftp's?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Only if you decide that it should be. Internet traffic is also transmitted in plaintext if you don't specifically configure servers otherwise.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yours ... you should have gone with transfer over ssh
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The default transport for all internet traffic is unencrypted.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Imalish And it is, Imalish. But I can't account for their end, or anything in between
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I believe Imalish was referring to my q :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah.. maybe so
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ssh and ssh2 protocols are by default encrypted with md5 or some other kind of security protocol
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And, really, I'd call the FTP a different situation entirely.. You had to set up the ftp account to be open. Where as in email, I was never given that option to secure or not
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: md5 is not an encryption mechanism
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You, no - but the company, yes
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: FTP is plain text.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: That's why SFTP exists.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but the expectation of privacy is not there
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Someone logging on to my unpassword protected ftp server wouldn't have had the option to secure it either
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.. they had the option not to log in
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: sorry i was thinking AES or 3DES
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You have the option not to read your email?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Even if I hadn't read my email - it was still transmitted from A to B 
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: so I guess that you have the option of not providing the information and seeing if your employer approves.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I make said ftp server, I put person x's details on it for person x to access. I don't put a password on it.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Same dif, same responsibility
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: FTP sends passwords in the clear, so you could put a password on it and be in the same boat.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak... And in that instance I would be pissed as well.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, but once again, it is ME (or the company) and nothing to do with the technology used
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay. But my point is still accurate.. unless you do anything to secure it, by default, it is an insecure method of sending that kind of information
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Just because it CAN be secured doesn't mean it was.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: and in most cases, isn't
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But that observation is useless, because it applies to ALL communication
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All communication can be secure or insecure
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: if it bothers you so much contact who you are supposed to send the from back to via email and see if you can ups a printed document.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: more secure or less secure?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (yes, Mendaloth :D )
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yes, but the default security of say, A letter in a sealed envelope, is a bit different then something that is transmitted across the internet in plain text
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: wat
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: steam
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I can open a letter just like I can open a text file.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mail is far less secure
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I know your address, I can lie in wait for the postman, too
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Your statement is irrelevant. Unless you do anything to secure it, by default, ALL internet traffic is unsecured.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Thats true Vak - but theres any number of opportunities for it to be intercepted over the internet, by multiple people,, there isnt a single sealed copy of it
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: How many people handle a letter once posted?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Many. But thats not really relevant.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably a dozen or so
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: only ones doing that is the government/isp and you can put all the "security" you want it on, it won't a make a difference
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It is just as relevant as assuming that your internet connection is compromised.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it is
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: assuming it's "secure" is just plain stupid
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The correct position is cautioun without paranoia
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: caution, even
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The correct position is caution with paranoia.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well yeah, if you see a foil hat you should probably cross the street...
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Okay.. but my point was more, I had no option of exhibiting anything it was sent without my request.. in a method not of my chosing. Ya'll seemed to have missed my point entirely - they method they chose to send it was insecure. As such I think I'm going to be speaking to someone in charge of policy, or as close to as I'm able
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: It looks like Gmail uses TLS on outgoing mail. So does Hushmail.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You should just ask your email providers to use STARTTLS outgoing.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I can't put the cat back in the bag, fiendish. This is something thats already happened =p
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Ohh but its so fun to put cat's back in the bag.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can always re-register for a new DL# and SSN
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: could, but again, this isn't about things I can do to fix the situation, its more, Did they stuff it up to the point that I should complain? And I think the answer is probably yes
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because either 1. Policy sucks. or 2. Policy was disregarded.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or 3) the person who made the decision to send via email doesn't understand tech
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm counting that as an option for #2, Vak
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The internet, the internet... that's the stuff with the tubes, right?  Can't put too much stuff on, or it'll get clogged!
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekto Tech: Anyone know the plugin to have your spelllist mini on your screen
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekto Tech: where you can scroll over a skill or spell click it and it will activate
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bast's spellup plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekto Tech: Its saying its loaded, but im not seeing it, should i remove and reload?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: try typing bsp help
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekto Tech: everytime i go into affected on bast spellup
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekto Tech: it says error on upbutton or downbutton in drawshuttle
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you probably have timers disabled
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Why do you have timers disabled?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekto Tech: how do un disable?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ctrl+Shift+0
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is a checkbox
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ekto Tech: box is checked for enable timers
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: what would cause bast's spellup miniwindow to go completely black ? i can interact with it but only as a blind man would
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Imalish: a very old bug, the cause of which I can only speculate
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ekto: then post me the whole error message on personal board
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: bummer ... nkc means no solution :(
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Fiendish: Thanks for the updater command
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did it work?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes it worked
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: What's the command to send text to the communication log from a trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't think there is a direct one.  You can do something tricksy like 'echo INFO: <text here>'
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there is a function for it
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i thought you can send it to "output"
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: instead of sending it to world
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah, but then it doesn't end up in the comm log, Lokathor.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that'll send it to the main window, not the comm log
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I know there is a specific CallPlugin function for the comm log, I'll look in the code and find it
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Send_your_own_custom_lines_to_the_log_window
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah that
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Ah, useful
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ekto never did send me that error message
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what am I doing wrong here?  I've got a basic plugin that currently has onPluginInstall() to create its window (top left corner, 100 pixels square, white background) and uses an alias to hide/show it.  The alias is also setting a variable according to its display state, and printing that variable is clearly changing the variable appropriately.  It's just the WindowShow(variable,value) that's apparently not doing anything.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you change the variable before or after windowshow?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's after, but I'm just assigning a text value (I tried the same sequence without the variable and couldn't tell if the alias was doing anything)
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just show your plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/90404904/Miniwin_template.xml
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: looks like my version of aard_channels_fiendish doesn't have storeFromOutside. Am I able to update that one plugin without affecting any others?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: r1126
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: good lord
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: welcome to the future. we're on r1700 now
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: r1700 is running mc beta?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I was reading nick's changes post.  I'll update when I have time.  Probably while I'm Hero sitting for Boot's birthday.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: in Lua 0 is not false.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: call windowshow with true and false instead of 1 and 0
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I originally tried it that way.  That's why I was asking what was going wrong.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what do you think should be happening?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: try      window_hidden = not window_hidden ; WindowShow(window_name, window_hidden)
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: at the moment, I'm just trying to replicate the WinCreate example in the miniwindow how-to page, so just a white square in the middle of the main window.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or even WindowShow(window_name, not WindowInfo(window_name, 5))
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: assuming windowinfo 5 returns a boolean
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, how would that be functionally any different than WindowShow(window_name, true/false)?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it would work
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and works in two or even one lines instead of ...7
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so...for an actually defined true/false value I can't actually use the true/false constants?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could, of course, but that's not what you showed me
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and my way is still more succinct
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: let me clarify then.  WindowShow(window_name,true) still doesn't actually show the window.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, I see
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You have misspelled every single callback function
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they should start with capital O
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you probably also want flag 2 and not 0
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I added in my own "print from outside" function PrintThis(text) with runs stampAndStore(ColoursToStyles(""..text..""))
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish begins to shake his head and tsk into nothingness.
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: any reason why traffic would stop traversing a open vpn connection?
T3/r7/2012-10-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it will work for 5-10 minutes and then nothing but will still show as active
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's the check function for?  Didn't see any mention of it.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Has anyone had an issue with the most recent windows 7 update breaking your computer sound?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i've got sounds
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: and i updated last night
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't know what to think.  My computer's sound randomly quits working.  Turning sound off and back on fixes it for a minute or two, then it goes off again.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It just started doing this today.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: laptop or desktop?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: have any other programs updated in the background maybe?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Lenovo x120e laptop
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't think so, no
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: How old?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bought it last December
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Could be poor connection internally. I had that happen 6 months after purchase on my laptop
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: have you checked drivers, something else might have been falsely detected and be conflicting.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: One of my built in speakers stopped working entirely
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If it were a poor internal connection, why would turning windows sound off and back on fix it?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: shrug
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Try using headphones
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: If same issue, hardware conflict or failure.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: or your system could have had a glitch... my system from feb lost its whole device tree recently. I hope you don't have something similar, that had an only fix of reinstall OS
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But that doesn't make sense.  Nothing has changed.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Check device manager, see if there are any !'s
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Device manager shows nothing untoward
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Uninstall, reboot, install newest drivers?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: tried a cold start aka shutdown and wait a min?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just started the machine up, but I'll go ahead and reboot
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm terrified of anything involving drivers, more often than not messing with them completely breaks whatever I'm trying to use.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I understand, windows can mess itself up in a myrid of ways
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: You may just want to check for newer drivers
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Most of them are easy to install and work with, or come with instructions
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: worst case if it won't fix is you have a cold solder issue that just reared its head on some point in your sound system, this is a send back to depot fix.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But again, why would turning the sound off and back on fix a hardware fault?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Devak shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: might on a bad solder, on my nuvi the bad solder would disrupt power on the slightest bump.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I would also just google the issue online
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Perhaps others with the same sound hardware are having the same issue after update
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Or perhaps you updated drivers with the updates, and it muffed something up in Windows.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Quite a few laptops (and mobos in general) have safety switches which disable certain components if they fail in potentially damaging ways.  I've never heard of it happening with sound output, but that would be my first guess
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: i have the pot quaffer v2 i can figure out how to get it to work i set the potion bag and the potion but stil not working
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I don't use it myself, but I can see the help command is "pquaff help"
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: oh you've already done that
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: nod i cant get it to quaff
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Anyone here who's given those new LED light bulbs a try?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: LED's are new??
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have them in my dining room chandelier.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: New relative to incandescent bulbs, nimrod.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling fluffles GraySong Gregor's fur mercilessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: little pricey but I like the lumens and color
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor puts his panties on his head and runs into the forest laughing, never to be seen again.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: What's your general experience with them?  Any premature diode failures, etc.?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I just bought them this year.  No issues yet.  Got them at Lowe's.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone using Bast's Double Exp miniwin plugin? Mine des not pop up when double is on.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone knows anything about laptop power supplies? need a new adapter and i'm offered a different model with more watts and amps. how sensitive are these things?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: higher is fine.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lower is not.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Make sure it isn't cheap
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: they will limit their output to match in most cases
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's cheap :P
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: My dog chewed up my charger on my old laptop the first week I owned it, I bought a cheap $5 one online and it ended up breaking my battery
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: My battery started charging less and less, to the point where it's max was like 20%
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i've bought adapters from this guy before. first time he doesn't have a matching one
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and it has ca +1A and +25W
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: it depends on what kind of board you have, some can regulate the power.  Cheaper ones like Asus boards cannot, and you will blow your battery on the LUCKY side.  Worse case you do bridge damage
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I still got my charger with 8 different plugs
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's a dell inspirion
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: you did say it was a laptop right?  It's best to match up power demands if possible
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Having a higher wattage supply won't hurt anything, so long as voltage and polarity is correct. Laptop will only draw the power it needs.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and hey, it's 40 euros cheaper than the branded one
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I agree with Daloran
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hmm. ok, i asked the seller just in case as well. i do trust him, but wanted to get a second opinion
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: FWIW, this Targus AC adapter I'm using has been trouble-free
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Just make sure the voltage on the output side is equal, polarity is same, and the charger has at least enough to power the demands of the laptop.. if its not enough it will cause issues, possible overheating of the power supply, possible not supplying proper voltage to laptop, causing a different set of problems..
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: When in doubt, get the part # from the old one, and replace like for like.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i could wait for a week or two for a matching one or get the higher amp one right now
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I just mean if there was some question about it, dag. I mean using an 85w instead of a 65w is not a problem. It's like... If someone gives you an 8oz glass of water instead of a 6oz. You can drink 6oz out of it. But if you get a 4oz glass, there won't be enough water there to meet your needs, and you'll be dehydrated? Maybe thats a bad analogy
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: naw that's kinda accurate
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got it
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And I guess uh... wrong voltage would be like, if they gave you pepsi instead of water.... but uh, metaphor overextended =p
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought it worked like this, but had an alternative theory about the adapter going "NOW DRINK THAT DAMN WATER, YOU FILTHY ****. YOU LIKE THAT, DON'T YOU?!"
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: rofl dag
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, lesson learned - it's the max output, not force-feeding output
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: Again I want to make sure you get the polarity right or you will fry everything
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: +/- on the plug, right/
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: should be the same on a single manufacturer
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: with a water analogy I like a foset, the device determines how wide open the flow is, the voltage could be seen as the "width" or area of water coming out, and the polarity is which direction (spraying on your dishes or in your face)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe. Though most electrical == water analogies treat voltage as water pressure, and current as flow. polarity would be more like suction vs water flow
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, i actually went to a polytechnic school and got lots of elecrotechnic classes and i can't remember anything any more :P
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Voltage == PSI, Current == Flow, Resistance == Pipe Diameter
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i remember that much :P
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, lunch time for this one. Glad to be of help, if I was any. o/ Good luck with the adapter
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I'll buy that.  Engineering degree never did help me with analogies, I was trying to work draw into the question, and I agree it did lead me off the convention 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: would be nice if we had car analogy standard here like on slashdot
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: engineering porn - http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070709/T61_14wRollcage_01_540x497.jpg
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone know of a tool (preferably free) that will extract Craigslist post titles and their associated links?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Trying to make work a bit easlier.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: easier, too, because my spelling sucks today.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I guess screen scraping is what I need.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: anyone on that can help me with tt++ I'm working on making a VI client for my needs
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: if not TT++, is there a way to adjust the size of the font used for the minimap?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, that problem I'm having with my laptop sound doesn't seem to happen with headphones at all.  Odd.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i've seen a few laptops like that, seems laptop oem's like to cheap out on the connectors
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Could it be an issue of the laptop thinking it has headphones plugged into it when it really doesn't?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: more likely bad connectuin somwehere from soundcard to speakers
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But again, turning the sound off and on fixes it for a bit
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Plugging in headphones and removing them also fixes it temporarily
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: my lappy sound loses high pitch when I plug in the headphone jack. Blowing into it helps! figure that out. Probably bad contact or shortcirtuiting
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: or my laptop just wants a blowjob each time
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It wouldn't surprise me if a dirty connecter were the culprit, I am constantly having to blow dust out of the cooling duct due to working in a dirty environment
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: my desktop sound becomes high pitched and hollow sounding when someone walks withing 3 feet of the tower
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like you need some emi shielding
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: tracked it to a bad connection between output and external soundcard if it got vibrated would cause a short
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: hey. how to create new buttonsets in android app?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: only way to solve before i resoldiered the board was to pick it up and set it back down if it was shaken entire comp would freeze thanks to drivers clashing
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: volos: Tintin++ and Aard don't actually deal in fonts. That's done by whatever program you're using to display them...xterm, putty, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: hey again. could you help me? how to create new buttonsets in android app?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Karla: to create a new button set, press MENU and select button sets...touch add new
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: eah I pumped it up in xterm sorry for not posting
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: ty .-. didnt think of accessing anything with non touchscreen buttons at all. :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: would using triggers to autokill be treated as botting? :/
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: meh. ok
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: You really wouldn't want to script combat anyways.  Far too many situations to break your script, leading to a moronic death (and since you'd be AFK, that might mean your corpse rots and you lose all kinds of items)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I've been toying around with connecting it to a email script
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you wouldn't want to do that because it's f'in illegal
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: but recall-runto quest-quest complete-runto bank-deposit all-enter-runto health-drink fou-recall-runto quest-quest time would be acceptable?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and would probably nuke to a moronic nuke
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: read help botting
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: woops still a newbie... as of two weeks ago I hadn't even heard of a mud... 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: might want to read help botting
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you REALLY want to read help botting
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: ty. ill read it
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: take a towel
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everyone should have a towel
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Twisting FatesDagger tosses a wet towel over tubbynutz
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: every frood has a towel
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: help botting, help is this botting, help policy# (# is the number dealing with scripting/afk/etc)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: good to know... that was something just kicking around the back of my head...though it would totally defeat my aims of working on my typing and reading :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: good that i asked before scripting then :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: just have a trigger to play a sound when your q timer reaches 0
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Karla: What you described, that's fine, really. You're not entering combat, you're just completing your quest, depositing your gold, healing up, then running back to questor. That's fine, but it's suitable for a button, really.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and then sproing you into a tree
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, you can set that up as an alias here, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only takes 15-60 seconds to do a quest
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: a really loud obnoxious sound like skinner laughing.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Something like: alias qc runto quest;quest complete;runto bank;deposit all;enter;runto health;gulp fountain;recall;runto quest
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or have a screenreader reading barter -h dexter
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: agnir y but about 3mins-max time on android
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I actually have an alias that takes me home and quest completes for me.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: dagnir*
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: basically, if it results in a kill, the exchange or awarding of stuff (items, gold, qp, tp), experience or experience-related changes (ie, remorting), or positioning-related advantages (not really applicable here, just included for completeness), then you can't do it.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: qc -> home;quest complete for me
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I also have qcc to enter a portal, home, quest complete.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: might want to add enter
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers intently at Twisting FatesDagger.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: apparently double semicolons are eaten by zmud, never tried them before. 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: dangit i want to light my smoke but phone screen is too interesting xD
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have to turn parsing off :(
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe there's a better way, but i don't think there's an escape symbol for the command line
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use ~~; instead.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, that
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, one tilde.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ;
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh well
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i use ^(qc|q c)$ if qc home;run 2n:quest complete else quest complete
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i haven't written any beep scripts for years :P
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: my qc alias goes to the aard hotel via the aardwolf mapper, to avoid noportal/recall rooms, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: wouldn't noportal still defeat it?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper will run to the nearest portable room
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor is still using v4.61 without the aardwolf package
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I still need to get that working in CMUD, running to the nearest portable/recallable room.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mapper records the noportal/recall data when it happens, so sometimes have to fire off qc a few times before i get out :p
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: the default mushclient mapper, that is
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah don't that in cyrnn's :P
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: got me killed once
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: use a level lock on the exit
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: if it's a room with a boss-style mob or whatever
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there a way to set a maximum level lock?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: 202?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: but it's tricky
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Like, "only enter this area if you are below a level?" or "don't ever enter this?"
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: first one
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wait, you want to enter an area if you're below a certain level? Way to lock yourself out of things.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i wanna block vidblain above level 85 so mapper uses my darklight portal
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Tis possible, but horribly inelegant.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Mapper will automatically use the portal if it's faster. How are you getting to vidblain with the mapper otherwise?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mapper script should automatically choose the shortest path.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: mapper will use the portal if it's faster, why do you want to block any route?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well mapper only takes into account the sw to vidblain when running to areas inside it
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: No it doesn't, it's a random exit.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: Hmm isn't vidblain rolling the dice? once you hit level for various portals in there they provide a fixed distance to rooms
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Okay, so get a level 1 trivia portal, and delete the crappy cexit.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I ran into a situation thanks to Daoine's recent change where the shortest path to gallows tried to run me through stuff of shadows and out via knossos and beyond.  He might want to limit going through such shortcuts.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But seriously, what's the use of setting the random cexit in the mapper? You'll just run around vidblain uselessly anyways
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well i tried adding daklight portal but i can't get it to work for the other areas in vidblain
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Hans, that's what you use the level lock for.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If the portal is set up correctly, it will work.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it just kept running to vidblain and then running from there
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Delete your cexit to vidblain.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It goes to a random room, anyways
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but i want it to work level 84 and below
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It will never work, it goes to a random room, but mapper doesn't know how to account for that.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it works for me
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the mapper has GMCP.  Put a pause on it, or some sort of stop, and then recalc the path from where you ended up.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so no easy way to set level limit?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah it does that hans
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you could make a special alias to get to vidblain, that does "mapper goto (room with the exit to vidblain);dream" or whatever the custom exit is
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: get an imm to confirm that might get it fixed.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Santher, I'm not sure how you set up mapper to pause and then go to it's desintation for Vidblain, but you may want to check your custom exit/portal you set up to do it. If you have a "portal" (as far as mapper is concerned) to get to a certain room in vidblain, afaik mapper won't count the walking in that alias when figuring out the shortest path. 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i think i got it...
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just need to type xset vidlain i think
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher grins evilly.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes. Someone would've told you that much earlier if you had mentioned you're using Winkle's scripts.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i was hoping for a better solution, oh well
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: got it working anyways
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you can surely set up a trigger to do xset mark when you hit 85
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i could but i'd rather just set a level limit to the vidblain sw
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If anyone's interested, I have a Lua function (meaning it'll work with MUSH!) to return how many trains it'll cost you to get from point A to point B in a stat. It includes the ability to add modifiers, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Here's a sample of the output
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Razor waits until it is wildly popular then builds it into the game.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It will take 295 trains to train your stat from 48 to 186 with a modifier of -1.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Razor.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, I'll post it to tech board. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Note's up there, 5967 on tech board. *shrug* Enjoy!
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: i made a trigger 'bank'. it gives me some error with '.trigger bank', but '..trigger bank' works. but at the same time i also gossip the trigger (cause of period symbol). Any tips to not spam the gossip while using triggers?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Sounds like an alias.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You should make it an alias, not a trigger.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: what should i replace there then?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: the period with a slash f.e?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: when i alias replace 'trigger' with 'trigger' and cmd is '.trigger bank' then nothing happens, tho i expected i will run '..trigger bank'. :?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: replace with '.trigger'*
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: anyone? :/
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: whats the name of the client you are using?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: You might get more help if someone knows what client you are using. :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: android
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: What client, though. Blowtorch?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i have no idea what you're trying to do
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: thats the platform not the client
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: how to check my client
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: what app do you open to connect?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds to me like you're sending .trigger? for w/e weird reason?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: Aardwolf RPG app
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So it's the Blowtorch app, then.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: instead of sending ".trigger food" just send the commands you want it to do
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Etzli: There is an app called "Aardwolf RPG." It looks very, very similar to Blowtorch.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That's because it *is* Blowtorch, just customized for Aard
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Oh, I see. Thank you. 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Little Johns hugs Pedwiddle.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: to open anything else, id have to close aardwolf :/ 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You don't have to close Aardwolf - we know what you're using now
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So what are you hoping sending ".trigger food" will send to the MUD?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: trigger has 3 actions (acks) - enter, runto health, drink fountain
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: i have academy portal
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so put that in your alias
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: think she made a trigger '.trigger food' and is trying to use as an alias
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: take what's in the trigger and move it to the alias
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: having an alias send a line to be triggered is a very sloppy way of going about it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: what symbols to enter between commands?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alias food wear portal;;enter;;rt health;;gulp
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: might need a down in there too
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not if you have runprefix set
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: ty it works now :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: finally can turn on gossip again :)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in SQL, in a view the fields specified in the select are the ones that will be shown in the view, such that you don't want to use *?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And I've just written the function to calculate number of trains for vitals. Whee. Posting it on tech in a few... :p
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: In a Blowtorch trigger, is it possible to exclude "the" from the captured field, such as "Mob the Aggro?"
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: why isn't mapper cexit buy ticket,,n not working? it just registering buy ticket
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You need two semicolons, not commas.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause it doesn't like commas?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: well yeah its semicolons, but i ddint put that
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its doing Custom Exit CONFIRMED: 29283 (buy ticket) -> 29284
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: isntead of buy ticket,n
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: use 2 semicolons
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: did you try north instead of just 'n'
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's working, it's recording you have moved rooms
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its recording only 1 command though, and yes i have tried north instead of n
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: I have been using 2 semicolons
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ooks like a classic single-semicolon issue
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Did you actually test it? Like, using mapper to move to the cexit room?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: ya
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: just doing 1 commadn
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: try two semicolons, not one?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: yes i've been using 2 semicolons
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Go to another room, then type mapper goto 29284
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: see what happens
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: it just buys the ticket but doesn't go north
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Okay, delete the cexit and do it again, making sure you do it correctly.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: not working
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The vagueness is palpable...
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: it is just doign 1 command, not 2
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: its buying the ticket, but not goign north
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: use ;
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ;; rather
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: i have been..i sued 2 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: type 'echocommands' and try again
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: and restart mushclient, just in case you have any bad scripts messing things up or something 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if it's not going north how is the exit being confirmed?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: let me try, maybe its cuz i use alias to record it
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Santher.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: echocommands will tell you what is being sent to the mud, at least
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: how do i make a note using mapper?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right click the room/edit note
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tymas Tech: it goes to a notepad?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: anyone use winkle winkle's extender?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: i have a small problem: when on campaigns the extender can pick up the 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: rooms but i can't exactly run to them
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: it shows 'no matching rooms found'
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: doesn't it rely on the existing mapper database? You have to have been at the room before
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: yep i've definitely been to the room before
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: its weird that for all cps it doesnt capture the room
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so xcp 1 works but not "go"
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what color is the text?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: xcp 1 runs me t the start of the area but after i hunt the mob it doesn't find the room
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: which text?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: when it says room not found
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: its light brown
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: weird
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: i've had another concurrent issue, that is, a black screen if i didn't disable aardwolf prompt fixer
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: but i've enabled it previously and it didnt work as well, so i just keep it disabled now
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... Youtube has live streams now?!
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In Excel, I have 5000 rows, and one of the columns contain the following format: $#.# million. Is there a way to convert that $#.# million to #,#00,000 easily?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: is there any way you can change the format?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is the column data just "x.x" then?
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The data in the column reads: $23.4 million
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: You could always use the left and right functions, to find the amounts.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: or use texts to columns, and use space as a delimiter.  Then use the right function to capture everything that's not the $ sign
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: add column with formula: =1000000*mid(<column reference>,2,find(" ",<column reference)-1)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: and reformat that column .. if you want to replace it with values, copy and then paste special => values -- that will get rid of the formulas
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Korridel rapidly nods twice at Mye, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks. :) I'll pass that along. I wasn't doing the task, but the person before me did 300 results by hand.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And I knew there was an easier way, even if they just did a "find and replace" :p
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: ahahahaha.
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: She's only getting paid $3.50 for that task, too. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: select all, copy, switch to text editor, paste, regex search/replace would do it as well, without needing to know excel formulas :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with you about your shared secret. 
T3/r7/2012-10-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, that was the easiest $3.50 I've ever made. Thanks again for the help.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: is there a way, in MUSHclient, to expand a variable inside your command line?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: I just discovered there's a way to install steam games to whatever hard drive you want, my SSD now weeps with joy
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: just install steam to that drive, and they'll get installed there; you could do that even before the new "install anywhere" feature
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: yeah I just wanted to have steam itself installed to the SSD and the games installed somewhere else, turns out there was a very easy way to do that before the install anywhere feature
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: They should've had that ability from day 1
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: well okay, but why would you want steam on the SSD? is my question
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: have most of my programs installed on the SSD, so its just a OCD thing
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: games are just too large to keep many of them on there
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i install as few as possible to the SSD, so when i format it i don't have to redo as much
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: I haven't reformatted other than installing a new version of windows in over 10 years
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: last time I did that I can remember was getting a nasty virus my freshman year of college
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lokathor boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: had a few viruses here and there since but never bad enough to reformat
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: you should reformat every few years just as a thing to do
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you should run an OS that doesn't have a bunch of security holes
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: why reformat every few years when I have built a new computer on average every 2 years or so
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it's not about hardware performance, it's about the integrity of your operating system
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: now granted I have reformatted the old computer at that time to hand off to a family member
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i haven't had to reformat windows since i ditched xp
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just restore
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: you get so much crufty stuff stuck in the edges
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: is there a command/script to after req quest, runto quest area, and if possible, to correct room?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that is directly against the rules
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: ...And lazy
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I don't think thats against the rules.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It's basically botting.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: as long as you don't add a kill mob to that trigger.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: running to the right place triggered off of your q info message is very close to just being a bot, so no
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: help runto
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: not against rules
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: but it's not botting.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: without the kill command
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: but you'd have to write your own karla
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i invite you to write it yourself if you want such a thing and you accept that it might be construed as a bot should you expand it at all
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: ok, ty
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: but could i use it in qguests too :)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: still perfectly legal
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: ty
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: as long as it doesn't run and kill the mob too
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ^
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if a imm found that you autorun to areas based on quest messages, even when afk, then that might be considered a bot... but you could put it on a hotkey, so it requires a human action to actually be done
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're autorunning to areas based on quest messages, it's not crossing the line. It's toeing the line, however, and is crossing the line if you decide to stack a kill <mob> on the end of that run.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: or if there are aggro mobs in the room!
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course, if you're triggering quest requests anyway, that's definitely grounds for suspicion.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Etz.. knew someone who botted qfails =p not sure if they're still doing it
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: semo, but i heard he was banned
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh? was he?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: at least he seemed to think so
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Probably for unrelated hijinx, im guessing
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: but... qfails don't get you anything
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod lok.. i just meant the whole automated quest requests thing being suspicious
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, Semoene's not banned.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But he does have the most qfails that I know of.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well he said he was on fb shrug
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: meh, he can EAFD.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I never saw that FB post. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pardon my acronym. I guess that really has nothing to do with this channel. Sorry
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i did i'm his fb friend
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As am I. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: saw when i loaded up the aard page
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: seems line up with what finger says for how long he's been gone
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i'm gonna bot my qfails up to 10 million
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: that'll show 'em
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: someone...
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone using any of the E-cigarettes?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcantos Tech: Ok, dumb question..
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i've got a dumb answer ready
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol. Don't we all =p
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So do I.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcantos Tech: Any way to find out my old acc info if ive been away for too long and lost it?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i think if you had an email the imms can reset the pass and send that to the email
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Imm might be able to help with the login... but as for the password.. probably not
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Oh, or theres that too.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As long as you have your email address on the pfile, then you're good.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcantos Tech: I would know the pass, its the char names I canna remember :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: >_<
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then you're pretty much out of luck. If you haven't changed ISPs, you might ask him to go through the characters that logged from your IP...
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcantos Tech: ok, next dumb question... how to check for an Imm online?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: who imm
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But you can write a note to Imms, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcantos Tech: much obliged
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I am of the opinion that a proper MUD client should have more programmable features than clicky buttons. But I digress. Let's see if anyone on Tech picks up on this.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Bah, mis. But it works too.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Like what Trurien?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: you should elaborate on what you mean by "programmable features"
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I believe a proper mud client should have enough expandability to have both options, as the user sees fit.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anything which allows scripts to be made and used.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Most clients allow scripts :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I just don't like leaving the keyboard when text is clearly such an important part of the experience.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i do like me some buttons though
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Personally, I'd like to have mob names clickable and such for attacking.. but a bit hard without a lot of work
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: You can click on mobs to attack? With what client?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: it'd be nice if the mapper had a modal mode, so that you could keep your hands on the keys and pick what room to run to from a list with the arrow keys when you do a search or something
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nyine.. you'd have to script it, but it could be done in mush
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Or any other client :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But thats not what I said. "i'd like to be able to" 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I can only speak for zmud, and mush.. and know its possible in both
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: And a pony.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: you could script exits to be clickable to go that direction :D
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah just takes a ton of triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod.. that'd be easier then the mobs
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: something like invmon for mobs would be nice to that end.. but really it screams bot features
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: keypad to move and aoe
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: I think that using just n e s w u d and k <m> is easier than scripting all that stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I want to see some client that can take advantage of some of the newer input techniques such as multitouch, voice input, etc, but without losing the quick-access to a qwerty kb 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i move almost exclusively with keypad macros; and the non-directional keys on my keypad are info macros like score and scan and qinfo  and stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and macro for attacks
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And for the total package, be remote accessible
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: I like typing, when I started muds I just used a simple telnet client
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i used to use trigs for mobs but it got labour intensive to setup so i scrapped that idea
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: What language is aardwolf written on, btw?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Santher. thats the problem. if there was something like invmon for making a consistant output of mob short names/align/level, it'd make it a lot easier to format
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: plus it's a little too tempting to bot at that point
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i think that aard is in C
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ask Lasher/Xantcha?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: aard came from Diku and then replaced all diku code over time until it was 100% Lasher's code, but i think it'd still be in C at that point
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Nah, I was just curious, when I left playing muds years ago the most modern ones were based on Smaug, but Aard isn't
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Aard used to be based on Diku, but is its own code base now
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Iiirc, Smaug was an evolution of Diku... But I don't really know that for certain
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Yeah, I think you're right
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yeah, Smaug <- Merc <- Diku
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: or rather, Diku -> Merc -> Smaug, because the left to right bugged me
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: And where did Emlen fall into that?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: So tempting to get the source code of diku or merc just to play with it :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://mud.wikia.com/wiki/EmlenMUD looks like emlen was defunct offshoot
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Merc -> Diku -> NiMud -> Emlen
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Oh they mention ROP (Rites of Passage) which became the mud I went on to run, Everwar. Interesting.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Looks it mostly got axed, because he sold it, violating some of the licenseing agreements
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: But, i might be misunderstanding that
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Heh, and Fate, my first mud
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I was always more of a muse/mux/mush kind of guy
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's an interesting little story there, thanks for the link
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: np.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I played most of those muds at one point, and I still have the most recent code for Everwar laying around.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'm really surprised I haven't run into any ex-emlen mudders here.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shrug. might be some around. Still a few people playing on a MajorMUD server somewhere
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I tried to get some of the last Everwar players to follow me here. No luck yet :(
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: offer them candy.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: And drug them
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: heck with them. drug me
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Aardwolf is candy comparitively.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's why I stuck around.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oo piece of candy. oo piece of candy. oo piece of candy.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: how can i export my triggers and aliases from one platform to another_
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: define platform
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: from my Android to laptop
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: manually translating them, if i understand what you're asking.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Because i don't think you're running the same client in both places
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: from blowtorch to mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yeah... I don't think they use the same scripting language
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: yeah you'll have to covert them manually
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: ok, ty :/
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I was really disappointed with BT's triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Karla.. I will give you another option though... Use TF and write your triggers there.. then log in to that TF session from blowtorch/telnet/etc.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: However it would be cool if it had SSH support so I could use tt++'s scripting but BT's little buttons.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Good luck getting people to convert to Linux Daloran :)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: hmm, i'll try that
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can run it on windows, Ixle
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You're gonna have to telnet into your local machine though right? And set up tf to listen on that port?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I vaugely wonder if i could run it on my router, to be honest.. but i imagine theres not enough cpu power there
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ixle... ideally you'd want to use the screen command
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I ssh into my machine to get access to tt via android
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I thought this was a good bit harder, neigh impossible for most, in windows.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ixle... are you familiar with screen? 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I use tmux.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And I think you can do it in Cygwin, ixle
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: But yes I'm vaguely familiar with screen for linux, not windows though. I have very little experience playing around with Cygwin once upon a time.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tmux... screen.... close enough
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I use a little bit of screen. It's a fairly simple layout.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ixle will really push tmux though I haven't tried it.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: screen is now part of Cygwin.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you could prolly get an older version of tintin/curses to compile for a router... depends on the router.. Asus RT-N16?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I don't even know how to ssh/telnet into a windows box.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Linksys WRT54GL
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Mostly why I run Linux
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea, the linksys prolly aint got enough juice
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod... didn't figure. Not to mention storage space. Ah well, it does its job, not up for replacement yet
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: freeSSHd runds on windows
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: And you can enable telnet/ssh on windows boxes easily enough
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Apparently can run an SSH daemon directly from within cygwin to accept remote connections as well
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: who wants windows when you can compile your own app d00d!?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: .... Are you implying you can't compile your own application on windows?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh,, i was wondering if too :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: wait
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no, but in windows you don't have to
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sorry, sarcasm flag didn't register
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thought you were being serious there for a sec, santher
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: can also get a hosted shell somewhere on the internet... then you could aboid leaving your system on
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: avoid
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afox Tech: is there a way to change a portal level in the mapper?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, just set it again
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: either recreate it or change the database directly
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/builders/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=379&Itemid=298 <-- is that the current EQ generator to use?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Produce a Rumour Tech: there is only one eq generator
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carenyth Tech: If i install a plugin and enable it, where do I find the window it was supposed to make?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is mush haveing any logfile?not chat one..like when it crush :)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aventaar Tech: does anyone here use mudlet on a mac and find that the mini map and status don't work after installing the MAg package?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: have a problem with mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carenyth Tech: Whats up?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: was kicked out (it disconnneted) and when i try to reconnect it says unable to create tcp/ip socket for aardwold
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carenyth Tech: hmm...
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: code =10106
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carenyth Tech: check to see if your using 32 bit TCP/IP routines
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afox Tech: i'd start by restarting mush
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Carenyth Tech: haha, i am really sleepy not to do that first :D
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Afox: mapper portallevel <index> <level>
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afox Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it should be covered in mapper help
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afox Tech: so it is
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone do vba?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: me :)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: sounds like a drug to me
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh, Im looking for some help with excel sheet
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so VBA Excel then
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ask then :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: So I have a sheet with a list of data, another sheet with a list of data, then a third shit with my source data
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: love that typo
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol oops
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry, but yea I want to populate a 4th sheet that lists the rows which arent found in sheet 1,2
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if that makes sense
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you can do that with a eassy vlookup :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: google Mr. Spreadsheets.  He does stuff like that all the time
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I haven't written a vba excel macro in 3 years thank God
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I didnt think I could do that with vlookup, but ill check it out
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: if-wrapped vlookups
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: make it a while loop based on the number of rows you're querying
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: anyone have a plugin for a ToT window or a main tank hp watcher window?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'm having a giant WTF moment. I connected to a random public free WiFi hotspot and was given a freakin' PUBLIC IP address.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Wait, what?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Can we all ping you?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the nerve
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: share it, we will see if we can hack you
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah... even the ports are open. I can netcat in from outside.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: One can make variables with Blowtorch, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: does anyone know if the mush client will run in a tablet enviroment or is it a windows based program
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a windows program
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It can be run under Wine, though. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not that it'll help you much.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine is x86, though
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: so in theory would run on say a surface 8 tablet but not on an android tablet
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are also remote access tools that you could use, based on remote desktop, VNC, OnLive desktop, or even telnet/ssh
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: true just as look to purchase a tablet trying to find out what is going to work and not work
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thooven Tech: prefer the android enviroment but also prefer the mush client 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are IOS- and android-based MUD clients (and remote access tools)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no mobile MUD client can come close to the features of MUSH, though
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: so I'm trying to find a local phone price/comparison/thingy 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Did the mud crash?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frostpaw Tech: this would be my first phone, so I'm not really sure where to go.. trying to save money...
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Explains it i guess... I was in a different room then when i was disconnected
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this Excel formula? =IF(FIND("million",D4),1000000,1000000000)*MID(D4,2,FIND(" ",D4)-1) -- The purpose of the formula is to multiple 1.8 million by 1,000,000 and 2.4 billion by 1,000,000,000. It works for the 1.8 million, but returns a #VALUE error on billion.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: :\
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: is there anyone using a blackberry through bbssh that can help me out?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: people still use blackberries?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: I do
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Honestly don't know if I can help you until you ask the question.  What do you need help with?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: can I create a trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Not as far as I know. You can do macros for keys that's about it.  Only way is to create a SSH account on a computer (maybe an old computer) running a real text client.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Havvoc Tech: how do I create macros then?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: with aardmush.. those simple zmud conversion scipts it has...#ALIAS pool {heel;enter pool;order %1 sleep} <--- would that work as "simple" ?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it should. you might need to double the ;s
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you might also need to make it pool *
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so ;#ALIAS pool {heel;enter pool;order %1 sleep}
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not really sure without experimenting
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so ;#ALIAS {pool *} {heel;enter pool;order %1 sleep}
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try it?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cant.. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: :)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: trying to give someone an easy pool alias :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought your kid used mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: he does... his machine is off... easier to ask here :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sec. let me try
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Fiendish, I have a clannie that isn't tech-savvy.  Her aardmush client will not connect.  Complains about a TCP/IP error.  She downloaded the standard MUSHclient and it worked fine but no plugins of course.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you watching this channel Seiph?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: would help if you posted the error :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ozzy this works: #ALIAS {pool *} {heel;;enter pool;;order %1 sleep}
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thakns.. ill relay it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ;;;; -> ;; of course
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I put 4 in to show 2 on channel to get one when using it
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Seiph tells you 'i know how to the long way, using #alias just doesnt work- is there an option to enable that?'
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it absolutely works
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but they may not have the #alias alias 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see my wiki page about that
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: those #ALIAS on by default in aardmush?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: let me dig though my logs.  She posted it earlier today and isn't on now.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: I need to see the whole error
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Anyone seen this error: Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: whee,,, {tell}Seiph tells you 'aah, different but thanks' <--- worked
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks Fiendish :)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Seiph might not have been doubling the semis
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: think so
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that alias is a must for me way back... else i forgot every time :P
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thay should be in mush Scurvy
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trying to nut out best practice - for those who work with C++ in the actual industry, instead of my little uni bubble, are people on 03, or 11?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: AHAHAHAHA
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try 98
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Awwww. Damn.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok here's the error she posted:  unable to create tcp/ip socket for aardwolf.   code=10106
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: when does that happen? and did she try restarting her computer?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Is it such a painful upgrade, though? I thought it was all back compatible? Or is it VS costs or something holding them back?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh: there are upgrade costs for any Windows houses, because I'll be damned if I'm going to use Windows and NOT get to use Visual Studio
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I had her restart the client and her pc to no avail.  It happens when she launches and before she can log on as far as I can gather.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: beyond that, there are also government compliance/certificatoin issues
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right then, confirming most of what I am learning is unlikely to be useful later on :-) We're being taught 11...
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vakieh: don't sell it short. 11 has a lot of really nice features that should have been there in the beginning
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is there a plugin or setting on aardmush that would kick up this error?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: not that would cause /that/ error :\
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, I know - simple stuff like enum class and such, I love it - coming from pure C it's like Java only not so sluggish
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: she downloaded and installed *gulp* cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Daikojun: give me a sec to grep for that particular error code
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That error looks like MadCatz inv manager?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: its a standard winsock error from what I can find.  She was going to try a couple different versions of aardmush in different folders last I spoke to her.  Don't know the outcome on that.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: This is unfortunately beyond my reach.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what gets me is that the standard mushclient install worked fine.  odd
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's nothing really nonstandard about my release except for the version of Lua
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but that should not affect server connections
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: maybe an update check procedure call?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what OS version?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I disable all update checks? What file has those settings?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: never asked the OS  :/
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I assume XP or higher
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only system I know for sure won't work is 98 and below, but nobody should be using that anyway
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: she's a phone player who lost her phone and was trying it on a pc for the first time
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sucks to lose a user for reasons outside of my control :(
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: my old MAME arcade machine still runs 98  lol
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'l check with her tmrw
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Versa Tech: mame was awsome!
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: has anyone written a script to generate the resist scorebars using just the resist numbers?  I think I've got the ranges mapped out, but I don't have enough numbers to confirm how close.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Starling posted a screenshot of them mapped out via numbers.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, she didn't.  She posted http://imageshack.us/a/img849/8549/newscorebars.jpg, which goes in steps of 50 and the numbers don't directly correlate to the range boundaries.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's a link to the data I was able to tentatively hammer out (after 5 red bars, the numbers aren't verified) https://dl.dropbox.com/u/90404904/resists%20bars%20ranges.bmp
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: is there a way to teach the aard-mapper about doors the same way you can teach it about portals?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Use cexits.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: 'mapper cexit open n;;n' or whatnot.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: will it favor a cexit over a normal exit?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I want to make sure I'm well within the bounds of no-botings rules.  Is a good general rule that if it doesn't engage in combat it
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: it
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: sorry. that it's ok?
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: maybe
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have a trigger between your runto and your kill command, it's probably illegal.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: you might be benefiting in other ways, so specifics are important
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's not the only thing that isn't allowed, if it was, help botting would be shorter
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are many non-combat things which are botting...read help botting and help command stacking
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that said, if you want to bank on the idea that IMMs are generally busy enough that they are not likely to find or perhaps bother with one-timers...
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lokathor glares at Hanslanda.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I have read those.  I think obvious ones like every time I pass the fountain in the acadomy I drink from it seems fine...But I was actuallying thinking about working some for auto spell-up and that seemed more ify, and i really can't read the maps so I was thinking of making a bumbling walking fool script, but that seems like a good way to die
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: spellup bots are perfectly legal
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more specifically, self-spellup bots are legal...a bot to spell someone up when they poke you isn't :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: service bots of any kind are completely illegal, but that's pretty standard for any game that disallows bots.
T3/r7/2012-10-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I like the term service bots :) hadn't thought of it that way.  Yeah I don't think i will reall need it.  I'm logging the mini map and chars and I think I can make something better for my VI needs from that
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Using the mush mapper.. is there a way to search for a room both by room name and area? Rather... so it only finds rooms in a given area that match the description, but without actually being in the area
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: there is not.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mapper showroom <vnum>;mapper area <text>
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: only downside is you have to know some vnum in the area
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ok, showroom is newer than my version, what does it do?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: "Draw the map as if you were standing in a different room"
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmmm.... might be able to make that work..
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: neat. Ok well the room search function pulls in its area "full" names from a separate database after the search has been made, so to search both at once you would need to convert the area name to the area's codename, ie "A Prison Cell" in "childsplay", or rewrite the search results function to filter the area name afterwards
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: tack on an AND area IN (SELECT uid FROM areas WHERE name="Child's Play") into the room search
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Can you edit the plugins? I thought they were compiled some how
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: probably a neater way to do that
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: oh yeah i edit mine all the time, they are just xml files
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: you can edit them ... just gotta be careful ... knowing what you are doing helps
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahhh totally didn't know that
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair, Imalish.. also keeping backup of the original =p
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: if you clone and use the repository, you don't even need to keep backup
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ? not sure what you mean by that exactly, huan
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: basically he said if you use a fancy system of backing up your files then you dont need to back them up
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: hmm. Maybe better to not poke at it then, could do more harm than good. SVN keeps "backups" for you, but you have to know how to use it
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: make a backup and poke all you like, nothing to lose
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah, I'm familiar with SVN, at least vaugely
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: gotcha, understand what you meant now
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: does anyone know why aardwolf.db keeps a seperate table just for uid and names of rooms, when it needs to refer back to the original rooms table for area names anyway?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: maybe remains of legacy design? You'd have to ask Fiendish to be sure
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: gonna make myself a find_room_in_area function now
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That should really be standard.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli whines about quest bots.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: my brains a quest bot!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Please nuke Velian for admitting he's a bot. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian giggles.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: mapper area <roomname> ?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, Etzli, it's fine.  We'll forgive him as long as he removes his brain immediately.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's because he's donated! If it were me, I'd have been nuked right away!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav taps his foot impatiently. What can he be waiting for?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Velian's Supporters Pin makes his bot superior to Book of Etzli's.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ruh roh... he just went there!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh no I din't!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh wait, yes I did.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ugh. Times like this I really wish I still used Zmud.. mush scripting is new and different and I am afraid of change >.>
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Lokathor: that only works for the area you're in
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: so you want to search for a room in an area specified that you're not in?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod, lok
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Like map find finds rooms in all areas
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: mapper area finds rooms of the area you're in, but not a remote area. (without using the prebiously suggested mapper show.. which would seem to work)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I already have mine set up to tell me the level range of each area in search results
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That'd be a handy addition as well
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: or it will when I finish filling it in
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: well I did it, thanks for the idea Daloran
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Gonna publish it? TT++ does it by default but I sure bet others will love to have that.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I don't know if there's a standard way of publishing added-on functions to existing plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Does Fiendish take emails?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That should be a part of the mapper.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: catch is I'm using an old version of the mapper, it might not even take on the new ones
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I'll send him a note
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: also it works by "mapper find_in_area A Crystal Hallway|Death's Manor". I don't know a neater way of separating the two. Quotation marks?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I really like how the tt++ mapper works. It will let you search any combination of room name, exits, room description, area, room note, terrain type.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The format it uses is #map {list|find} {name} {exits} {desc} {area} {note} {terrain}
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: So to find all the shops I've mapped: #map list {} {} {} {} {} {shop}
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: mapper has a "mapper shops {here/area}" function which does that
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: wow there are a lot of shops
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: It will show you every shop anywhere?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if you don't specify a {here/area}, yes, a list of clickable shop names and areas
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: shops and banks
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That's cool then
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Funny it will find a shop in a remote area but not a room name pattern
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: well that's just an issue of dumping all the rooms with 'shop' in their details
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: anyway I am off to walk the dogs, ttfn
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Other problem with using mapper showroom, the speedwalk starts from the room you show..
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hmm.. how about this one... how can you use mapper showroom for a room without an ID#? (closed clanhall, etc)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: be there, mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mapper thisroom shows the id of the room you've previously used mapper showroom on though
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also, mapper thisroom doesn't report an idea
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ah, i guess the string it lists still works, even though its nto an id # per se
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't think nomap rooms have an id, because the mud doesn't report one, deliberately
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod Vak.. makes sense - i dont care about the ID - just needed the mapper to realize it wasn't in the room from showroom
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ah well. Guess I'll figure it out eventually. 
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: anyone use S&D?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes, other people use it. Ask your question to get an answer.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: why is it 'go' does not bring me to the desired room but instead the entry is goto_number: and subsequently the feedback is 'you are already in that room'?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afox Tech: use nx
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: xcp works only until the first room of the area
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: thanks afox nx did seem to sort out the error
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: you are type 'go 1'?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: typing
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: nope, 'go'
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: need to specify a number with go
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: oh, hmmm i see: thanks!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Afox Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes, other people use it. Ask your question to get an answer.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: any idea why i have to keep typing qw in S&D to get the result out?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i think i dont understand the question :)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: hmmm
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: why you need to keep typing qw?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: that is to say, when i type 'xcp 1' it brings me to the area, hunts the mob, finds the mob room, but it doesn't come up in the window ie i can't type 'go' to it
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: but when i type 'qw' it hunts the mob, captures the room in the window, and i can type go to it 
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: that because S&D is not a bot :P
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you still need to do it manualy
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you need a carriage return at the end of your prompt
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: that means
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: normally where you would type 'go' it would bring you to the room
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: but when i type go it says the room is not findable even though it had already hunted the correct mob in a previously explored room
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: make sure %c is on the end
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: hmm how do i check for %c
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no idea
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: auto
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: yep, %c is at the end :)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: who knows, old mapper?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: doubt so, its the latest on the site
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you keep getting that in all areas?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: i get it ocasionally
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: then probably you dont have the room explored?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: nope i definitely do
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: qw brings up the correct room
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: it bring the room anyway...dosent matter if you have it explored or not
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: and if the room is in a maze..or after a maze..you cannot go there
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: really? i thought you have to have explored the room previously to get it on the mapper
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: qw = hunt mob and where it..you can where any mob in the game and get the room where he is :)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ofc...there are mobs no-where to :)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nah mosi that ht
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Furrier Everybody Tech: hmm... okay! thanks for the help, i will try to get more info on the problem when it comes back again
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: qw just does the name ya tell it
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: use everybody use ht
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: if he dosent them explored is the same santher :P
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: true
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any advice on broken mapper? have some areas that aren't pathing correctly.. would it be better to start over? or try and track down the offending areas/exits
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Sometimes you just have to purge and area and start again
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if it's a continent, I don't know how to fix the wildwood issue
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just the area though? Just trying to decide if bandaging is better then blowing away and starting from scratch
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i mean, it seems the areas themselves wouldn't change.. but if its not letting me from one to the other
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: well, how much would you lose if you scrapped it all? some of us have dozens of cexits for example
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: a bit... a lot of portals, a few cexits. I mean, nothing I couldn't redo as i came across them again with minimal anguish. but if possible, i'd like to keep it
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi guys
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Hi Reina, what's up?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: why do we need a proxy server?can someone tell me?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Who said you did?  I don't use one...
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: in what circustandces we need a proxy server?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: can anyone tell me
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you don't
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Reina.. thats.... a very wide scope without some more details
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if you're at work, for example, and all their internet goes through a proxy server in the computer room
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Security... filtering content.... connecting through another system so traffic looks like its coming from it, instead of your actual location..
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: for a large amount of end users we need a proxy server to manage the bandwithch?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: am i right?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Reina.. why do you ask? that will give some more info on what you're looking for
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i am confuse why does a company need proxy server
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: what is the usage for it?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Reina.. That is such a vauge question, you need to be more specific if you want a meaningful answer.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: What is the context of this question?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: caching
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Are you just asking to satisfy your own curiousity?  If so, there's always google....
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Hav you been put in charge of the network?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Asking a question like that, I'm guessing not =o
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Hoping not, more like
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod ped.. i was trying to be somewhat tactful though
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah, sorry - too early in the morning for tact where I am...speaking of which, I should probably be getting to bed
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Night Ped!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: gotta love fifo redirects and multiple urxvt's.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Multiple urxvts? What for?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra uses the "-pe tabbed" option.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ========== Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh cries to the heavens in joy!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: build of what?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: House?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: what you read in the media and what the reality of the situation is are remarkably different
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: mischan, sorry
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Potion_Quaffer plugin isn't recognizing Angel's Breath and Devil's Brew.  I'm using keywords angels and tea.  running 'pots' command doesn't see them in my bag.  any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: or is there another plugin out there that will help me keep a count of my pots?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: related question, how many different potions do you use? I find I only ever use a healing potion
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Only hp and mana.  PRanger
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: same here very rarely use mana pots
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Quaffed 662Heal, 0Mana, 22Move, 684 potions this mort! (81726 Lifetime)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm more concerned in keeping a count on my hp pots.  I go through 50 pretty quick during back to back doubles
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you could make your own script to track pots if you only use one or two
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Of course. You get your power from the tainted source.. the rest of us need potions though
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I didn't want to reinvent the wheel if I didn't have to.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I use the Potion Quaffer -- but if I remember, I had to hack the regexps
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the regex for recognizing the pots?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: I also had problems with it crashing mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I tweak most of my scripts.  I'll check the regex.  Thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: the pots command used to bring down my client, so in the end, I just rewrote it. If I remeber also, the quaffer also quotes the bag name. Used to be good but means that you can use (129322) IDs now
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: basically, what I am saying is, I think that this plugin needs a rewrite:-)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'll simplify it or rewrite it.  I'd just rather spend time playing then writing plugins  lol
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the great thing about having the source is that you can rewrite things that don't work...
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: It's a forced lesson in Lua.  I'm a Java guy  :P
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Lua is a pretty horrible language.. But I can't decide if it's worse than Java or not.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor can't stand using Lua it makes no sense at times
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I tend to think it's slightly better than Java...
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: As heavy as Java is, it's running a lot of the world and I'm paying the bills with my mad programming skills.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Lua syntax hurts my head
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Daikojun, you might want to learn another 5 programming languages. That'll help you realize that syntax in a language is like boobs on a woman -- nice, but not really the stuff you want to marry for.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I've evolved in the last 15 years.  I program in C/C++, C#, Python, PHP, and now Java.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: even tried WFP
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, this sounds like a nice package. Why can't you stand Lua's syntax then?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What is WFP?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: WPF*  Windows Presentation Foundation
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I like most languages that follow the C layout.  I just haven't taken the time to look at Lua.  It's usually very late at night when I start thinking about changing lua code  lol
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Lua follows the C layout
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: most of my efforts lately have been the Android SDK
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so back to Java and XML.  Working on some Android-to-Arduino stuff for work
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone know where the StatDB/Stat Monitor DB file is?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I want to see if I can figure out how long it took me to go 1-200 3k tnl this mort.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I want to know if I can get another mort in 2 weeks
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's in the Logs folder I believe
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Logs it is, thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: couldn't see that from the code  ><
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone here using multiple gmail accounts? Any preference towards using multiple gmail logins.. or using one, and tying the others together with the imap/pop for outside accounts?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yeah, or sell for money and dump money into mastery or something like that.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: is there a command you can type into the actual zmud window to view and / or modify an existing variable?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: how do i turn mapper on?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: In zmud, if I have a variable named test, is there a way to display that variable in the actual command window?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: just posted a new version of my afk plug-in if anyone is interested check out http://pastebin.com/i1FhTuJt if you have the old one you'll need to remove it first
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: what does it do?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karla Tech: if no killing, then ok
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i removed the gag alias when active on the request of a couple people
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when someone sends you a tell, it responds that you're AFK
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: just an alternativve to the afk command with an autorespond
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that lets you not set aard's afk flag, which is beneficial in that you can keep spellups up and such
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i want a plugin that, if i've got AFK set, will preceed all channel messages with AFK to turn it off, and then immediately AFK it back on
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although it looks like it only works if you have catchtells on
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: but i don't want it enough to open notepad and write it myself, so it will only exist later in life once i do
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: lol forgot about that been using catchtells for years
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: thanks for the catch abe will have the new trigger added in a few minutes
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool...although remember that the text from the MUD will include {tell}
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What do people think about an argument to friendtalk that would basically do the reverse of what friendtalk does. IE sends your message to your friend and all of their friends, but not to your friends (unless of course they are mutual friends).
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: I like the chaos that ensues when you say something to one person and others only see half a conversation :)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That would still be available :)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: crud didn't login to pastebin before posting the other one can't just edit it
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: in mushclient, is there a way to make a trigger match on something, then wait an amount of time, and then execute something?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: send to script doafterspecial()
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gonf Tech: look up DoAfter and DoAfterSpecial
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: perfect :3c
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: think you can use wait() and sendto if you use Lua
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: but i never really use it so maybe wrong
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: it's just a trigger inside the trigger editor, so DoAfterSpecial seems fine. I just want to automatically perform a mapper search for my quest room when i get the quest info for the first time, but i want it to let the full quest info finish printing before it starts the search
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: also... world.DoAfterSpeedwalk for quests seems handy... for like scan
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: using wait is not that easy, according to http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794 (item 25), you need to create coroutines, which is something I never tried yet
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: not as hard as making mini windows display bars or buttons
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lokathor giggles at The Dragon RandAlthor's actions.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: apparently mush ships with a "wait.lua" ... http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/bbshowpost.php?bbsubject_id=4956
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: doesn't doafterspeedwalk just send to the SW queue which brings alot of other factors into play
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dunno, was just reading forums and seen that
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but wait.time (1) appears similar to zmud #WAIT 1000
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: you would have to use doafterdpeedwalk("(scan)") to actually scan
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: what does doafterdpeedwalk do? *grin*
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: sorry, sarcasm got the best of me.  I'll hush now. :)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: sends a string to the clients sw queue after a set time
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: not unless it's spelled right, it doesn't.  dpeedwalk isn't a command *laugh*
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: world.DoAfterSpeedWalk ... This routine adds an unlabelled, temporary, one-shot speedwalk timer, set to go off after the designated number of seconds. The first argument (seconds) must evaluate to a time between 0.1 second, and 23 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds (that is, 0.1 to 86,399). 
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: i was typing fast and running on like 20 mintues sleep since tuesday
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: says: The purpose of this is simplify the frequent case of simply wanting to do something in a few seconds, rather than using AddTimer.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost comforts The Intuitive one.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: so unwanted... that poor unlabelled, temporary, one-shot timer.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: unappreciated, unnamed, transitory
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: not even a lambda unto itself
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: that sounds like doafter not doafterspeedwalk
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=DoAfterSpeedWalk
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: singing a durge for the forgotton timers
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: all three are pretty much the same thing just send to different levels
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: actually.. the docs seem identical on the 2 :P
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: says: You can also use DoAfterSpeedWalk - this is the same as DoAfter, except the command is interpreted as a speedwalk sequence.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: doafter send to world doafterspeedwalk send to SW queue afterspecial is setable
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so, over my head :P
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lots of "doafter" things... You can also use DoAfterNote - this is the same as DoAfter, except the text is sent to the output window, not the MUD.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: doAfterXxx is clumsy, anything more than simple function call without parameters requires you to pay attention to escaping. But the require "wait" looks really good
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wait looked simple
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: seemed the same as zmud's #wait to me
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: little more hassle you either have to have require in your main script or in each trigger/alias that uses it
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794 ... #25 in FAQ: How do I pause a script, or delay an action?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the part that caught my attention was: You can also use the "wait" library to wait on text (eg. wait for some words to arrive from the MUD).
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Would it ruin anything to try cleaning the jack with electronic cleaning solvent or something?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: hmm... from help invmon: "The format is the same as in invdata, except (...), does not break down color codes...". Any idea why?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: how do you evaluate math in the middle of a Send("") or Execute("") in mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: Send("wrong: " .. (1 + 1) .. " = 3")
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: couldn't remember the concatenation keywork
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it could take couple of years
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Smart move! Huan tries to start some discussion about the weather, hoping no one noticed his last mischan.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: anyone know a mush plugin that uses timers offhand?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Do you need a timer for MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: spellup
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i need the xml framework
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli has a Lua timer.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: delayed command plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: which spellup, swalec?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: create the timer in your world, and copy it to clipboard
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, I would imagine, all of them
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm using cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: I have a quick question.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that wasn't a question.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: If I change the font and size of font, will that mess up the ACCI Keyboard art? 
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So long as you're using a fixed width font, it should be okay
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... depends on if the new font is monospace or not
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: How do i fix width of font?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you don't. you use a font that has a fixed width.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: most ascii art depends on all the letters being the same width
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Something like Terminal
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: Ok, how do i tell if a font is fixed or not? :p
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: each tile for every letter needs to be the same size.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sorry, character, nto letter
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: not sure there ... some will say if its fixed width .. what font are you wanting to use ?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: never figured that part out beyond "by experimenting with rows of I's and W's"
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: I want to use High Tower Text
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: I find the default text that comes with the client is hard on the eyes.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i gave up on fw font and just use verdana
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i switched mine to Consolas 10pt 
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: Ok I guess I'll go ith Consolas, thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is consolas fixed width?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: a font is probably fixed width if this:
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: iiiiiii
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: wwwwwww
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: is the same length for both strings
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: good example
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: iiiiiiii ... and 
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: WWWWWWWWW
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: those are not the same length
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: you didn't type the same number both times XD
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: exxtra w
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: trolllin on tech =p
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yeah an extra w :P anywho the capital W is the widest character in most fonts
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Clearly Imalish is a botter who has botted so long that he has forgotten how to type.  How much did you donate, cheater?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: $30 and you ?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: carefull starling, don't want to get nuked
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You oughtta be ashamed.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i've donated 30$ ever, but only 20$ this round of donations
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's what I thought, but a line of hyphens in consolas is not the same overall length as an equal number of alphanumeric characters so I thought I was missing something.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: but my bot just highlights the things that i want to make sure i see :(
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I manually highlight things and then my bot does the rest
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: --------
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: iiiiiiii
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: WWWWWWWW
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: we're like opposite twins!
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Dragon RandAlthor chuckles at The Jerk Fiendish's joke.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: its the same length for me
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elmin Tech: How do I make it that chats only show up in communication log?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right click on the log window for options
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also read https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Echo_Channels_In_Main_Window_%3E
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and/or just type 'chats echo off'
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: without a real computer to use as a backend/backup/backstop, phoning a mud tends to be pretty much the next step up from plain telnet.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well yes
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scryn slaps Huge Wang Dexx.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i wanna create a trigger in mush that toggles noexp when i level ... but all the level text is eaten up by a plugin ... now can i get the trigger to fire ?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: modify the plugin?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ... would rather be able to create a seperate trigger that i can disable when i want ... without having to deal with modifying plugins :/
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: if you're lucky the trigger in the plugin might be set to "keep evaluating", which would let you make a second trigger to catch the same text
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sounds like a bad plugin if it eats text you want to see.... I would disable the plugin.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: and how am i supposed to figure out which plugin it is thats eating the text ?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: so make a trigger to catch "You raise a level!*" and try it out
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: anyone know how to remove the first item of a lua table without knowing the key?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: How do you know it's the first, without knowing the key?
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: keys are numeric, so alphanumerically first
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keys aren't numeric
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: got it, I can use the next function
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keys can be whatever you want them to be...if you don't expressly make them something non-numeric there will be implicit numeric keys, though
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (unless you meant [my] keys are numeric)
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: mine are specifically numbers
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: sorry yes I was talking specifically about the keys used by me in this context, I know they can be otherwise.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Erm, if you're just removing the first entry, table.remove(tablename, 1) will do it, if your keys are numeric.
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: table[1] gets removed, and table[2] moves into the new spot at table[1].
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: The keys are not 1,2,3 - they are more like 1,4,6,12,23
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: in which case I'd hope remove(t, 1) does not renumber them
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, you didn't say they weren't in numerical order. *blink*
T3/r7/2012-10-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: for future reference, next(t) gets the first key in the table, set the value to nil to remove any given key when the table is not set up with automatic 1,2,3.. keys
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea how can i gag my prompt?using mush...i want to see it only once...down the page
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calthyr Tech: is there anything special about the level send?
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calthyr Tech: I am trying to attach a sound that triggers off of the level send and it won't work for some reason...
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalinixta Tech: err my small map screen is black...
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arcantos Tech: Type Bigmap Update
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Malkar Tech: bigmap update
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalinixta Tech: i dont think it is that map but the other one..the one without all the connecting blocks
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So is there any way to get your current TRAINED hp in GMCP?  It seems char.maxstats.maxhp takes into account worned equipment which gives you HP.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: was reading the tech board... do those mac laptops with the audio jack issue have a microphone input too?
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although I've never had that issue with any Mac I've had in the past 25 years
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i had an hp that the switch in the jack was messing up on... i made a loopback adapter, 2 90 degree jacks... then just unmuted the microphone in windows :)
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nice...some audio card control panels also let you have both headphone and speakers on at once...there was a Mac accessory program to disable the cutoff switch
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that was back mid-90s that I remember that coming out
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a youtube video with a guy showing how he set up his W7 realtek audio to let him use both
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i was quite proud of my rigging.. it only stuck out like 1/4 of an inch, and culd just trhow it in the bag when using headphones
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I used to keep just a 1/8-1/4" headphone adapter next to the computer as an insta-mute :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, nice
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i own several Frankenstein old laptops, go an acer netbook someone was chunking, has messed up usb ports, were shorting out... i was able to straighten the pins... plugged an octopus hub in and it worked... so i jb welded the ends under the netbook... they act as legs now
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solostaran Tech: is aardwolf available for ipad?
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardwolf is a telnet-based Internet game...it's available for anything that can use telnet
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I routinely play aard from an iPad
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solostaran Tech: what is telnet?
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, a tech that powers Aardwolf.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: telnet is the network protocol used to access aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solostaran Tech: how can i use it on ipad?
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: carefully
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: you need a client
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use an app such as iSSH, touchterm, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: diagonally
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Get an iOS telnet client.  There surely are some.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: there are, they all suck though.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: there are ways to access aard from an ipad, but its not simple or quick.  there is no aardwolf app.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a few IOS MUD clients, but I don't personally believe in using a mobile MUD client
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's quite simple and quick...as much so as for any other mobile device
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solostaran Tech: i guess i will try touchterm
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I really like iSSH, but it's not a free app...for me it's very worth it for how much stuff it crams into one app that I can use for accessing all sorts of other devices
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solostaran Tech: thank you all for the tips...
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'll thank you for all the tps that you're about to give me.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: Writing an iphone / ipad client to really make the best of gmcp would be fun
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solostaran Tech: except Vakieh and Lokathor 
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: file under "if only there was endless time"
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Remember November Tech: I just dont see it working, typing on an iPad is slow
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles at Razor's joke.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: there is endless time
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: BT keyboard.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Bluetooth keyboard, November.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I still wouldn't consider it worth using :P
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Razor Tech: not for me :)
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does mush have tabwords? like in zmud #tab {some_long_frequent_word} ... so<tab> would expand... shift-tab does buffer words expansion
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and #tab {some_long_frequent_wordA}, #tab {some_long_frequent_wordB} ...s<tab><tab> would get the 2nd, alphabetic order
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it turns out that shift+tab is autocomplete for MUSH scripting functions, although why you would put scripting functions directly into the command box I have no idea
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i do in zmud often... to script from command line... alter/copy and alias to a new one
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like #ALIAS 190 {180<tab>   .... would put what's in my 180 alias into command line so i can make a 190 weapon alias
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: does aardmapper have a "temporarily disable portals" function, for running around after your corpse, for example?
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Speaking of portals, I need to write up a new function for handling portals in CMUD. Hmm.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there an easy way of moving rooms to a different zone in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Select all the rooms, Edit->Move rooms to zone.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: how did i miss that =/ thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bypassing portals in the mapper, use "mapper walkto" instead of "mapper goto"
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "mapper help moving" mentions this, btw..."mapper help" gives you the different specific mapper help arguments
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: thanks Abelinc. My version of mapper does not have the walkto function. I am going to program in one of my own, and if the newer mapper did not already have the function, provide it as a suggestion to Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the function has been in the mapper for a year now
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: guess it went in just after I got it
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like a good reason to upgrade :)
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I can't upgrade, I'm in too deep. I've made too many changes
T3/r7/2012-10-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: easier to just make my own new features at this point
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: will be faster to use a txt db on mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sqlit is faster than txt in almost all cases
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: sqlite*
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: sqlite can be pretty slow if you use it wrong
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i know huan...thats why i asked :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm, I just had a flash of motivation - before I go off and make that whole condensing plugin, has anyone already done so?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: good question
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... good foresight :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: can see it now... Vakieh Tech: finally! done condensing!     ...   Other_Player Tech: you should have downloaded so and so's
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well yeah, there's been quite a few things I've made which were already implemented elsewhere, and a good 4 or 5 things where I've said 'yay, done' and they're in the next mapper snapshot :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think I could go all fancy on this one, show hits for blind on fire breath, 3/7 mobs blinded, etc...so many possibilities.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Of course, the issue is distinguishing between melee hits and casting/skilling
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just takes a trigger for every skill/spell :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you can do that with the help of damage type..no? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: on damage 1... melee begins with [x] ... do spells?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: well I put it on my to-do list but I'm sure yours will be far more in-depth
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They do not - can any confirm, for skills, etc, they all start with the word 'Your...', right?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thief does not on skills
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i am sure
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: thief skills checking in, yes
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: getting conflicting info here
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: which Deloran?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: they start with Your
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so same info... diff answer :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i allready have something using that vakieh...and its working perfect untill now
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: full answer, thief skills dont have [x] prefix
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using dtype, or 'your'?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: [x] for meelee and Your * for others
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Your marbu poison NUKES a stonemason! [406] ... Your spiralling force EXTERMINATES a stonemason! [286] .. nod all "Your"
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you will need to consider and Your stunned message
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i want a nostun wish.. that is so annoying :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Stunned doesn't end in [###] though, I believe
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it does not
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: hard to do it like that vakieh
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I will be matching and incrementing on the dmg value, so I can output it as needed
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: eassier to use the length of the sytanx
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Length of what now? I have to match on the [###], because I have to capture and increment a value based on it
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, it seems I am matching on "Your <spell/skill long desc> <damage verb> <mob name>! [###]" - I can capture all of that, yippee :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: if is try this. You need to be more disruptive. The adrenaline control is still there! Remember is zmud that you could have adrenline as %1. so the trigger will be c disrupt %1. is that possible is mush someway?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: replace 'adrenaline control' with * and it should work
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod i will try
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: now it just tries to disrupt a *
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: didnt work
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: then you did it wrong. =p
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the trigger needs * in place of the spell name. the response needs %1 as the spell name
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's what she said
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod i got * in instead of "adrenaline control". the trigger looks like this. "c disrupt *"
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no. Thats the response, alucard.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it should be c disrupt %1
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: response needs to have %1, as you had in your first version
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: nod thanks gyys.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: should be c disrupt '%1' just in case. dunno if * matches two words
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i use regex myself
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: nod dag. So long as the spaces/words on the opposite are correct * will match any number of characters
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it does, but I'm not sure if disrupt needs to quote the spell name. Shouldn't hurt anything if you do
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: it'd be a good idea.. if you get a multiword spell name it would try and disrupt firstword targetwhichisreallysecondwordofspell
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, disrupt accepts a target
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so better use single quotes
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurgenphalen Tech: hi tech guys, i just did a major ersion update to muchclient, and notice no bigmap in seperate window, is that not happening anymore in this version?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jurgenphalen Tech: and girls :X
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know if this is proper regex for php and roster 10....
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ^\w+\s+\d+\s+\d+\s+(?:n/a|\w+)\s+(?:n/a|\w+)\s+(?:n/a|\w+)\s+(?:n/a|\w+)\s+(?:n/a|\w+)\s+(?:n/a|\w+)\s+(?:n/a|\w+)\s+$
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: don't need to use any of it, just match those lines in roster 10
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it would be much easier to just try it and see what happens than to parse it in head
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There are a number of dynamic regex tester web applications, they work wonders for this sort of thing
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: first thing i noticed - you don't need the first passive group. could be just \w+
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: anyone know how to stop aardmush from disabling statmon?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: find: TelnetOptionOff(TELOPT_STATMON)   in aard_statmon_gmcp.xml ... comment it, or set to TelnetOptionOn(TELOPT_STATMON)
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod,,, hated that as i mess with mush, but use zmud :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh just disabled that plugin, been trying to get rid of that window anyways :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: when im on a continant my mappers realy slows down my client it shows all the rooms but how do i get it to just show the continant again?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: like the picture of the continant
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: anybody? i use mush
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you disabled the bigmap?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: uhm lol im not sure whats the command to activate it
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try typing 'bigmap on'
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: invalid bigmap command
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then you disabled the bigmap plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't do that
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll have to go and re-add the plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: it wil say bigmap plugin?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: something like that yes
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: OOOooOOooooo i got it thanks fiend your awsome
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone know where i can find some mini images to use with cmud mapper to show shops/other things?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure it's exactly legal, but try looking around for tile-based drawing programs.  A really old one I remember is named something like Dungeon Builder, and there's a city-based one as well.  Not sure those are free, but there may be some free classic RPG makers with similar stuff.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: beyond that, you will just have to put in the drawing time via zmapper
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: images.google.com can give you plenty of images to use
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you do a search on google images, you can specify size ranges, or even a very specific size
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: another place to look is even something as simple as Microsoft Office clip art
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take like a dollar sign or a shopping cart for a shop, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I would go look at http://opengameart.org/
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: how do you change the colors in the sharptracjer plugon on mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: sharptracker
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Topfox: you open it up in a text editor and change the color in 118 places :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: OMG!
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: ill rather just remove it lol
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you tried bast's statdb?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: no i got this one from a friend but the clors suck badly
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: i see it has costom color 17 in it how do i translate @R to a number?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: @R is a "sent to Aard" color, custom color 17 is a "display in MUSH" color
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: ok how do i know what display in mush colors are ? is there a help file?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ugh. plugins should never use client custom ansi settings
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd try taking my mouse to "game -> configuration" and see what catches my eye
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for help files, since it's MUSH stuff and not aard stuff, yes, the helps are in the help menu
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's the problem, topfox?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what sharptracker does. show me the code
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is the plugin online somewhere?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: ok 1 sec
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's a pretty standard tracker
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: reports levels, pups, quests, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://opochtli.freewebhost.co.nz/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=e3a526d3089e9c6f9f7ee5ef41833235
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I hate scripts that recolor text
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: As long as it has an option to change the colors - I love my easy to distinguish colors :)
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Or at least allow you to turn the "highlighting" off
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, what do you actually want to accomplish here, topfox?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: just change the colors
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what colors?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: ok like this
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: 4hrs58mins54secs [Kills:153] [Levels:15 539hps375man473mov 154pracs62train] [Exp:44389 291kill 149min] [Gold:434231 2839kill 1458min 62115clantax] [Quests:4 60qps1train] [Skins:66]
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Yikes.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: wow :P
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mendaloth takes one look and turns green as he starts to gag.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: i want to make it like @C and @G
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: its shockingly bad
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can't you just do a find and replace?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: not that i can figure
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what command makes that output?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: #sendtotal
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try typing..uhh.... 'st_colours   ' and then show what that does
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try typing..uhh.... 'st_colours @C @G @M' and then show what that does
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: yes it says this  Sorry Topfox, you can't do that
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: without the '
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well it looks to me like you're using a really old version of that plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Topfox Tech: yah like i said i got it from a friend
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go get a newer one from the link Myrkul posted
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: - h 20
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saerec Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dangit, it appears %countlist() in CMud doesn't work when ansi sequences are present...
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So... %stripansi?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: report the bug to...oh right
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not an option, it's a list of mixed-colored messaging I put together myself.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: $Temp="";#FORALL @coloredmessages {#ADDITEM $Temp %stripansi(i)};#SAY %countlist($Temp) won't work?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wanted to compress the list of mobs in the room so that duplicates were collapsed.  I can easily just remove the ansi and countlist that way, but that makes it all but impossible to retrieve the original colored message because the counted uncolored version no longer matches.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: does anyone know if there is a time setting on the htc one x. the app closes randomly while i play. but never actually disconnects me.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not that I'm aware of
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you using a custom rom?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: custom what?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: never mind
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is your phone doing anything else other than running the game client?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: im pretty clueless. i just downloaded blowtorch and started playing.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you get disconnected, Aard doesn't go through the logout process and you go linkdead.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: but i dont have to relog. i open the app and everything comes back up
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: one of two things is happening
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: without ever having to type in name and password (or having that automatically typed in for you)?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: either your phone is killing the UI thread (to reclaim memory? *shrug*) and not killing the network thread, or you're hitting the home button
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: noramallyni have to signin. except when blowtorch closes on its own. 
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or something similar that drops you accidentally to the home screen without cutting the connection
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: no its not the home button. lol. it fully closes. its not even in the status bar.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: anyone on good with tt++? I'm wanting to work on conditional action comands 
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: i have a local network which i connect to aard on...my wife is considering playing this game... if im on my laptop and she is on hers we would show the same ip.. would that be considered multiplaying or is that legal? if there is a solution could you enlighten me?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we do it all the time
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as long as you are always two separate people, and the IMMs may choose to do spot mplay checks, you're good
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can write a note to "imm" on personal just giving them a heads up
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: as long as lasher can talk to both people and feel comfortable you are ok
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: really? ok thats good news thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: he realizes there are spouses playing
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Lies!
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it's always nice to let him know
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There are no such things as married people MUDding!
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: that's why ingame marriage was created.. because nobody could get it outside of aard
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Mye.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's best to bring up questions to the imms, rather than the imms bringing them up to you.  When they ask questions, your answers could get you into trouble; when you ask questions, the worst they can do is say not to do it.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: i just didnt want to not beable for either of us not to beable to log on from being nuked
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's why there's no 'who female' option, because in this game, there are no females, and would it really matter anyway, since you're destined to spend forever alone?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Riagon.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I DO think its odd who male doesn't show a similar answer though =p
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, 'who female' used to say, "Don't expect that option to ever work." but now it doesn't.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or something to that effect, anyway.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: oh, i didn't realize they'd removed that response etz
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's been a while.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: etz.. i don't often type who female in the hopes that it suddenly was implemented =p
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ... busted. :(
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: everyone thinks IMM refers to IMMortal, but it really stands for Informational Moderation of Mortals
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: hans.. I thought it was short for their slogan.... "doing the IMMpossible for 16 years"
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Considering that they are anything but immortal, it makes sense.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and IMP isn't for IMPlementor.  It's for Ingestor of Mountain dew and Pizza
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, when Modern Warfare 3 came out, we could have called them Imps? :p
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or rather, the players.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: players?  No, players don't get any special acronyms of any import.
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Do they get export acronyms, then?
T3/r7/2012-10-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they get to join various clubs, like the National Organization of Offendable Brothers
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: has anyone come across this with SQL in general?  I've a field called Type with a datatype of TEXT and a default value of "type" (without quotes), but when I reference it in the script the value returns as 0.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as far as I can tell, I'm getting a proper result from the query, as I can reference other fields just fine.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: have you tried the query directly in the DB? So you can see if it's a DB or script problem.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bah, the word Type must've been put on the reserved list recently.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: hi guys
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hiya
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Hai
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: how does proxy server work?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Reina... pretty sure we had this conversation the other day =p
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: i know
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: but i am confuse
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: proxy servers bounce information from point a to point b
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: that mean?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: its like a Web flitering?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: user sends information to proxy server a ... information requests information from site b ... information is then sent from site b to proxy a and back to user
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: it acts as a middle man
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: there are webfilters that are proxies
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Proxies are generally used by like colleges or businesses to filter activity
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: for a large amount of End-users we need a Proxy server?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: you can play with a proxy at home if you are curious
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: or individuals in areas with restricted access .. such as china ... they can use proxy servers (probably illegally setup in the restricted domains) to get access to restricted sites outside the censored zone
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: for web requests, all that happens is that an http request is sent from point a to point b. a proxy server allows you to funnel or modify that request before you send it on
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: there are a number of free ones that you can play with
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: so, with proxy server it usually hv the cache version on it?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You use proxies primary to control your users, e.g. to limit what they are allowed to do.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: proxies can have caches, i don't know much about the operation of them though
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: for instance at my company, only the proxy server is allowed to make web requests out. you cannot browse the web except by pointing your browser at our proxy
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: yes some isp's such as aol used to use cached proxies 
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you can set cacheing proxies up locally to speed webbrowsing as well
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: something like www.squid-cache.org
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: you can also use them to debug web programming...to see the actual requests and responses that are going back and forth
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: so Proxy servers can also make your Internet access work more efficiently?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In theory, yes. In practice, it gets worse.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: caching can save internet bandwidth by saving frequently viewed and infrequently updated pages 
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i would say it makes the control of internet access more efficient. from a user's perspective it might not be a gain though
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: but from a firewall or security standpoint, it would
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Better to get a high speed access, and let the CDNs do the caching. They are better at it.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: i was speaking about the server in general, i hvae no knowledge of how to cache efficiently
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: websense (a corperate web filter) functions as a proxy and intranet domain server
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You don't get more security with a proxy. Firewalls can do deep inspection these days, without the need for a proxy.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: does a firewall can use same like proxy function?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: firewalls function by examining internet data packets .... proxies redirect
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Imho a proxy just adds complexity and opex costs. Internet access is so cheap these days that a web proxy won't save any money. Besides, the high BW items, like streamed video, cannot be cached anyways.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: if (the_var <= 0) then in Mushclient is throwing an error for me in a plugin.  Line   77: Element name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with "=" (Cannot load).  Can you really not do <= inside the send of a trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is the variable defined?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Try printing it out.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeap it's defined, and it lets me add and subtract on the previous line.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It should never be less than zero so I can just change it to ==, but still suprises me that you can't do it.  It think I am opening a XML tag.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmmm, this shouldn't matter, but you could try replacing < with &lt;
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That worked, well at least the error wasn't thrown.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is there an easy way to get string.format("  %02i", number) to round down? in mushclient.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: floor(number), I'd randomly guess?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: the key word for googling is floor, most probably
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Thank you!!! math.floor it is!
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Who knew you couldn't say seconds 60 in Mushclient's AddTimer, have to do minutes 1....
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: today and yesterday, whenever i'm using firefox there's a caret whenever i click on text, even when it's not editable text. is there a way to stop makding this happen?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Lightning crashes
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: good song
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: haha mis
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: looks like the Wii wins the Wii vs PC battle
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: according to what metric?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: quality of guitar hero guitar
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i.e, the pc one is shit and broke after less than a fortnight
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and has a fuckin horrible 2.4ghz remote on it
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Last I checked, this was a nocurse chan. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli comforts Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you'd be hard pushed to get any sort of tech problem without a degree of cursing
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Agreed, but I'm one to not push the limits on channels. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: swearing and kicking the machine usually works for me!
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well in this case i'll scream at the tech support people, who are inevitably going to tell me to contact the people i got it from, who are then going to say >14 days old, take it to the manufacturer and it's going to leave me wanting to break nerd heads
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: where upon i'll boot the designer in the head and say "OI!, USB cable, not crappy 2.4ghz wireless, and 3 heavy duty microswitches per side for dual redundancy, not a single crappy one that breaks in two weeks"
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: but then i forgot, the world is crap and nobody can make anything anymore without it falling apart in 2 weeks
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it's all in the interest of cost savings.. if they made quality products, they might need to charge more, which means less people would buy, which means less profits
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i can guarantee you that replacing it under warranty will cost many times more than building it a bit better in the first place
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: not if the failure rate is low enough
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: it doesn't have to be 0, it just has to be low enough is all
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not low enough
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: "i saw one black sheep, so all sheep are black", sure
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Let's see if I can get a relevant random quote for tech...
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: "The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." (Adolf Hitler)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: it works.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, it's about to cost them their margin on about 50 of things
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: as long as i get a timely replacement, i'll give them the benefit of the doubt this time
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if the replacement fares no better....
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bloody things aren't built in a way that they can be fixed, either
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i'm sure their margins are a little bigger than 1/50th of the base cost
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (naturally)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not once you've paid the shipping
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll never get through Slayer at this rate :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: could be worse, it could be made by Apple in factories where they have to have suicide nets
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: where they have mass brawls in the canteen involving hundreds of staff
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's cute that you think it's not made in the same factory, or one across the street
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: undoubtedly, that's why it's so shit
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hint: those aren't apple factories
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's part of a communist chinese plot to supply the west with second rate defective goods
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: I remember when computer stuff was made in West Germany
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Foxconn pays their employees over 4 times the minimum wage, and much better than most of the other factories
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Additionally, the suicide rate there is lower than the average college campus in the US
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oddly enough, foxconn is one of the ones people bitch at apple for
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they also have mandatory health checks for the women to make sure they're not pregnant, and forced abortions
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: chinese being the wonderful society they are
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: foxconn's factory is the one that everyone cites as apple's deplorable conditions
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just because they're not alone in abuse doesn't make it any better
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no tiger, it's that it's not them
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: As far as Chinese factories go, though, they're actually fairly good
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they should manufacture it closer to home
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't manufacture it at all
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: fabricate it in the US
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, they don't fabricate it.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did I read somewhere it would cost $30 or $70 to manufacture it in the US?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: who's 'they'?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: apple, which is who you keep pointing to
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no, foxconn make the parts, could be made in the US
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no different to any contracted-to-the-lowest-bidder commodity item
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're right, it's no different...which is why none are here
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mendy: if you read that, they lied :)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're not there because of $$
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: face it, instead of a cold war, you had a trade war, and you lost
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, sure they're not...whether you call it regulatory control or $$, it's all $$
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, "you"...that's funny coming from someone who never even got into the "war"
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the US willingly "lost"...we don't want to manufacture
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well interestingly, US is set to ban two chinese mobile phone manufacturers products from sale because of concerns about back doors
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: balloney
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: US population don't want to be electronic assemblers (which is what my dad was for 40 years)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sure, they'd rather be unemployed
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we wanna be a white collar population
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "the world will always need ditch-diggers" isn't what we wanna hear as kids
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this might have something to do why western economies are collapsing right now....
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in that respect, we willingly chose to lose the trade war...we wanna be consumers, we don't wanna be producers
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well if that's true, you're collectively idiots
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: because you're going to be bankrupt
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of companies, and even societies, have thrived without being manufacturing-based
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: none of them were the US
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Microsoft
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: hey no cursing on this channel
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you're going to war to take people's minds off the failure
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meanwhile, other trading blocks are moving around you, isolating you from the game
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Here is where I read it, it's wages only.  Of course quite a few things in Iphone we can't even make.  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all  "It is hard to estimate how much more it would cost to build iPhones in the United States. However, various academics and manufacturing analysts estimate that because labor is such a small part of technology manufacturing, paying American wages would add up to $65 to each iPhones expense. "
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: saluting the flag, freedom and liberty, mom's apple pie - it's all gone folks
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, they said labor is such a small part of the manufacturing...what they didn't say was that factory conditions, safety regulations, environmental controls, etc would make that figure more like $250 more per
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wages aren't the primary cost difference, but they add to the other differences
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so what emerges is the true cost of the phone
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody's willing to pay the true cost of anything technology-related
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, nobody knows the value of anything
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it will be their undoing
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and of course, apple pays a fraction of the taxes it should
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but we didn't make that money in the US!
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you didn't build that!
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wonder if the obamaphones are iphones....
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: my phone is made in finland. highly taxed rich socialist country. it was quite affordable
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't know where mine was made, it's about 12 years odl
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much the only cheap phones are subsidized
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why are they subsidizing phones anyway?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: the phone becomes cheap, but they lock you into a 2 year plan and then they get money
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: for votes
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on which subsidizers...cell companies subsidize phones to make money on the service...
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: makes perfect business sense
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thank Schick for that
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: PAYG is cheap
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, if you can build good and affordable electronics in finland, you can do it anywhere
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dagnir: you haven't convinced me that they did build good and affordable electronics in finland
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nokia e52, also n9 and some other high-end nokia phones
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "you didn't pay much" is not the same as "it was build for cheap"
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did they build the 3310 in Finland?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and yes, i have paid the full retail price for mine
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my motorola was free.... think i've put like $30 credit on it in the last year
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have an app machine that occasionally makes noise and shakes and I wonder wtf it is doing...
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: here's a video how n9 is made. in finland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqxYiXtzKd0&feature=youtu.be
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meh - Nokia and RIM are both on their way out.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: not because of the manufacturing location tho. bad deals and business decisions
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: say goodbye to your finnish nokia manufacturing
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I sell phones, among other things, and our sales tend to sit around Apple, Samsung, Huawei, HTC, and Alcatel.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: Huawei is one of the brands US is going to ban sales of
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the hell. alcatel still exists?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Alcatel is beating out Nokia in the cheapshit brick phone niche
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, does huawei have another name? I've never heard of it in the US
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: the problem of nokia is that they bet on a single horse only, one that didn't necessarily reciprocate
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nokia bet on qwerty sliders, dumbest decision I've ever seen
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: C5 and such
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh, nokia's been betting on pretty much everything. they've done the most r&d in the phone business
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19867399
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: they just got stuck with symbian and too many products and that what's killing them
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They do the RnD, sure - then don't friggin produce it for sale...
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, like the most RnD ever compared to any phone manufacturer
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They sat on the technology for the X series for a decade, and released outdated smart phones because Apple and Samsung were willing to take a gamble where Nokia wasn't
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: symbian sucked, but instead adding android side-by-side, they made a deal with the devil
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i read a report/article once that the phone carriers wouldn't carry phones that had too many features, or not the right features, so the phone builders were beholden to them
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nokia has a very good patent portfolio tho. they have the most real, practical patents when it comes to radios and such
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the things that actually make phones work. not just rectangles and rounded corners
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are beginning to sound like a fanboi here... praise where praise is deserved, and nokia deserves little...
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: we'd all be better off without mobile phones
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: not sure how long patents will last in the long run
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'm giving credit where credit is due
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Randor Tech: i'm sure technologically some of these new phones probably will be superior to anything else on the market, but you have to bet on Windows 8 at the same time
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, about the patents - other companies are quite lucky that nokia isn't a patent troll
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: how on earth would we be better off without mobile phones?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they wouldn't be rotting people's brains? people wouldn't be texting and tweeting, playing dumbarse facebook games
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The boss wouldn't be able to pester you on your time off
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: nor would people be able to call for help or stay in touch with each other so easily
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nuts reminds me of druzil (or what ever his name is nowdays) more and more every day
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i'll gladly take one for the other
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: never had trouble doing that before, lokathor
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just throw a CB in yer car!
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho there is some truth in nutsies rambling. mobes brought us the mxit menace
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: what? are you high? or perhaps do you live in a city so huge you can't see the actaual skyline?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hate cities
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mobile phones are banned in my house
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: boy, your mom really lays down the law
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: but the internet is better?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: shame, i was planning to live there until i heard that
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: his wife
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. it's so the government can't listen in on his thoughts
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I have my trusty tinfoil for that.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: remind me to invest in aluminium
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: right, tinfoil futures must be doing so well these days with all the paranoia
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't do it, jhav. tinfoil hats amplify frequencies reserved for the government
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: when i move, i'll be banning wifi, too
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Your house sounds like Iran and North Korea.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my country is Iran and North Korea
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I don't think you go far enough, Tigernuts.  I'd ban electricity in your house.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yes yes ban electromagnetic radiation
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: there's this song a friend of mine loves, "how do i live without you", except for you it's "how would someone live with you"
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if you ban wifi you better ban tv and radio too
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: oh and light
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, nuts, and please-please ban all internet and mud access from your house :)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't have a tv, can get it via the internet what little is worth watchign
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't trust them radiations. can't tell if wave or particle :\
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: look it is a particle
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vorpal Vorpes giggles.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: btw, research on the tinfoil hats - http://berkeley.intel-research.net/arahimi/helmet/
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: serious TECH question: Is there a way to make the mapper run a search but only search for exact matches?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: live your life with your nose in a mobile phone if you like, just don't walk into the road
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am sure that is what roads are for
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: they just evolved into pathways for motor vehicles
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: where we're going *sunglasses* we don't need roads *flies away*
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lokathor: with the built-in mapper commands, you can limit to just the area you're in, but not limit to anchored search
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: poop
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So add a function.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, the mapper broadcast's its finds & stuff to other plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i'd rather not fork it and then have to deal with new versions. I can probably just ask Fiendy-boy some time
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: or submit a patch or whatever
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you do it that way, it's not forked & upgrades won't normally break it :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, always throw a request at him first :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: but if i switch to a new version i'll have to copy it from one file into another. that's two whole key chords. SO HARD
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you use the BAT keyboard?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: no, just a normal 103-key keyboard
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, don't normally see people talking about key chords when not using a chorded keyboard :P
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: well it's not exactly a keypress, and so i've adopted the emacs term for it
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: you a vi guy tiger?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: so I may be looking for a new digital camera - I'm not a frequent photo person, I really only use it while traveling, but my current camera dates from 2003 and really doesn't produce good pics, particularly at night or outside - anyone have any thoughts, a particular model that they like?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: Anyone around ot help me? - I'm currently using a Mac and trying to find a client to run with MCCP. Any suggestions?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I use the mush client by aardwolf, but I use winebottler to use on my pc
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's like windows 7 but with a UI for touchscreens
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you've already asked that twice on newbie channel... why are you ignoring the answers there?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I have a macbook air
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: i thought i'd be able to get a more direct answer from here. 
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a very direct answer is that MUSHclient runs very well on Macs
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: im on a mac and use the mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: Wario I'm having trouble. I've downloaded the mushclient but i can't seem to run it.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's even an FAQ question on the aardwolf mushclient package site
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: Do i need other files?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: download winebottler
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Mush is native only to Windows, you need to install an emulator in order to run it?
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: and then follow the instructions for installing it
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: aaaah, so i need something called winebottler. Thanks!
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bah, errant punctuation especially peeves me.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you need some sort of emulator, winebottler is one option
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: seems to be someone did mention that on newbie channel too... ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I'm an old guy and did it mystelf from the helps
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: i'm in no way a techie
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: but I follow the instructions it was easy
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aardwolf mushclient package site's FAQ entry has a plain wine download on it in .dmg form as another option
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: I understand that now, ty.
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: there is a youtube video that walks youthrough it
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: Myrkul - i'm trying ot seek for more options so i came to the tech channel
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: youtub has the answer
T3/r7/2012-10-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: Ty Wario, i appreciatey our help
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well this is odd, if ya type \\\anything in mush it gives a compile error...
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's because it does Lua scripting, and if it's not valid Lua scripting, well...
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: anyway to disable that?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why would you want to? You can, under Configuration. I think it's under Scripting, though not sure. But you can untick a box near the top of the proper option.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: input valid scripts when you start a line with \\\
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah was just a typo, guess i'll ignore it
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalinixta Tech: hi. i typed in alias flame cast 142
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: okay
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: what's up
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalinixta Tech: and then 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalinixta Tech: the semicolan weild blade but the alias is only cast 142..semicolan seems to always end up to another line
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: you need to use two semicolons when writing it
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: in your case, it would be alias flame cast 142;;wield blade
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I think that will work for you
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalinixta Tech: thanks riddim hugs
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim gallantly tips his hat.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Swalec has just got a delivery from RS Components -- black, sleek and with a raspberry embossed on the front
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: hi, i'm trying to set a trigger in my Mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: there's a character iwthin my phrase like - Hooded woman
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: how to i replace that in the sentence so no matter whatcomes up, it will just move accordance to the direct?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: assuming I'm a complete idiot with rather much copy and pasted code... how do I get an xml file from my res/xml folder in android to a string so that my copy and pasted code can handle it properly? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: get a better OS?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: getString
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Celanil: isn't that mostly for pulling a string out of the strings.xml resource?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: well, that's where your strings should be :P
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: But I want to convert an xml file into a string. Not a string resource.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Not an Android resource. Like some data that I parse. I can get it to work if I copy the xml into a String in the code, but that's a really silly way to do it. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: oooo! It kinda works! Thanks Celanil!
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to regulate the volume at which zMud plays wavs? Or do I have to manually modify my wavs to make them quieter?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'm sick and tired of being deafened each time one of my sound-based triggers is triggered.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I found a command (vol), but it appears to have the side effect of turning all of my wavs into mono for some weird reason. But it's the only option, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: anyone know how to write a trigger to match a pk room in mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's quite simple.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: With or without GMCP?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: for some reason mine is not firing.. and I feel like mushclient is eating something
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Have you escaped the [[ and *?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: \[ and \*
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: or double them up?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you convert it to regex?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: trying to avoid regex if I can
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: cause I always manage to get something wrong :)
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Tick the 'Regex' box, and see if it fires then.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: k
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Note I said to tick the box, not click 'Convert to regexp'
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: still didn't fire
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What exactly do you have for the pattern?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there a plugin or script that can help compare sets of gear ?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: That's weird. I just received an obvious scam spam email from "Hotmail". If I try to reply to it, the reply will go to "Hotmail" instead of a specific email. How did they do this?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Reply-to addresses.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: you can basically make an email appear to be from any address and reply to any address. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I see.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: i can't seem to register"C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\IEPROXY.DLL" via run and regsvr32...anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: was the vidblain map changed recently? or is my mapped messed up... it used to show something completely different than what it is now
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the last change to Vidblain was to replace Dune with The Witches of Omen Tor, which didn't change a thing on the map itself.  The last change to Vidblain that moved around areas was, I believe, the removal of Doom and Gloom.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was D&G before or after sttng was changed?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: well yesterday my map showed a black space with the locations on it along with the coordinates when you run... now it shows a bunch of blue squares thats all connected 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try mapper bigmap on or mapper bigmap off
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, good catch.  D&G I'm pretty sure was prior to the loss of Trek Nation.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: its saying that is not a command 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry, try just bigmap on/off
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper lets you choose whether to show the old-style bigmap or stick with the boxes-style mapper when on continents
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: i use the windowed bigmap every other location is fine except vidblain its just completely different... very odd 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: try bigmap update
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (while in vidblain)
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: invalid bigmap option given
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my god, how is it Activision's support site can be so utterly devoid of use whatsoever?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'll rephrase: they're totally shite
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: did they go bankrupt or something?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Here's the thing - they have your money - they want nothing else from you.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're physically impossible to contact in this country, it seems
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Being contactable means opening themselves up to legal liabilities they may not want to get into - I know that's why Valve has no Au offices
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how do you return a faulty product to them, exactly?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: riff the CEO's head off and shit down his neck, maybe
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If Valve had Au offices, I could go to an arbitrator and have him sort it out under the cut n dried Au law - instead, I had to go to Valve, hat in hand, and beg for my money back for Legends of Pegasus.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: gone via Amazon instead
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: this is why online shopping is shit
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: if i purge the vidblain zone on my mapper when i go back to it will it rebuild the zone?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: it should, yes
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: the way this map is acting it driving me nuts i cant think of anything else to do 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone have any idea how many items we have in Aard?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: what would cause my gmcp_mapper to freeze up when mushclient loads? had to remove the file just so the client could load past that point and open up
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Corrupted data.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Are you able to load the latest backup?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: not sure on that 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try loading the latest backup and go from there.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: where do i find the backup file of it?
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In the same folder? Not sure.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I could be wrong about there being a backup at all, to be honest. I just seem to recall there is one.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: in the db_backups folder
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There you go.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: ok i see my most recent backup file for the database 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: should be 5 backup files in there.
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: there are 3 files 
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: exit aardmush.  rename your existing database file, copy/extract a backup file into your main folder and launch aardmush again.  see if that helps
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riagon Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: s
T3/r7/2012-10-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: anyone able to help with setting up trigger in mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: ty Santher
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: im trying to make an autohunt
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: how do i replace the mob name in the sentence?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: so irregardless of the mob, it'll still hunt
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just use winklewinkle's autohunt...
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: the search and destroy?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's already scripts out there that do that.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah (mob)
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you can improve on it, no sense in re-inventing the wheel.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: other than winky, any other out there?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Making an autohunt script is a great way to learn to write scripts
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So is dissecting a pre-made script.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sometimes, it's even easier because you know specifically what it's supposed to do.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What you need to learn is the * and %# option in the Mush GUI (or regex pattern matching and Lua if you want to go that far).  You can trigger off something like "You are sure * went *, etc" and then work with %1 and %2, being the mob name and then the dir.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: ty!
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Be careful, though, because if you allow too much, people can spoof your triggers - some very funny versions like that around.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: hahaha, i bet so.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: before all the runto, and scripts available, 5 years ago this mud wasp retty much manual and like it that way
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keredt Tech: just came back recently to play, am impressed with the changes
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You are certain that a blue hornet is gossip If I say this I might need to redesign my triggers... from here.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone try win8 yet?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Metro is satan.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so it is awesome?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: it's terrible
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: unless you have a touchscreen or a kinect or something
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: then it's probably ok
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a mouse and keyboard, and do not need to blink at my icons to click them.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is agreeing with that Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: hmmm well i need to reinstall 7 so i will try 8 in the process i guess
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: well no harm in trying it I guess but navigating it is pretty clunky with a keyboard and mouse
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lame
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Windows rule of thumb: skip a release.  Anyone who goes with 8 brought it all on themselves.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is agreeing with that Vakieh person again...
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: although microsoft are trying to tempt people with low Apple-style upgrade prices
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: upgrading from XP to 8 is actually really really cheap
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: like 30 bucks or something
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: here for a small fee you can lose functionality but be trendy
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: low price and apple in the same sentence...
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: apple's hardware is expensive but their OS is cheap
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: here for a large price you can have equal functionality and be trendy
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is windows 8 trying to imitate Apple?  Because if so, that's stupid.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: windows 8 is trying to get in on the tablet market
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the OS could be free, does not matter if it only runs on apple hw
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: which seems like a major DUH for them
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the fact that the price imitates apple's OS prices is probably mostly coincidental
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They are pushing the new Metro tablets as not just laptop replacements, but desktop replacements
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: the problem is they made the touchscreen interface mandatory
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: you can't turn it off
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: stick with 7 for now
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: if they would've just had a mode where you can turn it off, windows 8 would be pwning right now
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: nthing will replace desktops
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tech Bloke Danj is agreeing with that Santher person again...
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: you can't use a tablet for real work
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: anyway I gotta get ready for work now, laters
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Danj, it can be done, but it requires going a little deeper into the registry than most are comfortable with
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i just got home from work
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ranrr, that is the attitude they are trying to change - actual Office work, on a tablet.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: bs imo, but w/e
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: the honda dealership near me uses all tablets with BT keyboards
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: thats dumb
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i asked them how they like it and the front desk girl said they are awesome and the honda tech said they are ok
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, you can't do real work on windows anyways, so... :D
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: my bbssh won't work, it downloads but when I click on it it keeps saying error, what do I do?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: only honda wd do such a dumb thing
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i doubt it was a honda protocol 
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: your what ?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: bbssh, the blackberry client
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: then again tablets arent far from laptops
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: BB client for Aard ?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luna Cat Eleksis noddles her head in agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Delete Re download ?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: I did that
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: it still won't work
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: try downloading from another site
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Kill all background apps before you run it
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luna Cat Eleksis Tech: background apps?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Download A task killer.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Luna Cat Eleksis gets a blank look on her face.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Win95, Win98 ?, Win98e upgrade bad, Win98e oem ok, WinME bad!, WinXp ok, WinVista bad!, Win7 ok, Win8 likely bad 
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: I need ta go
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: not sure where Win 2000 and WinNT fits in to that sequence
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: You used Win95. Dude you must be old
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I used windows 3.1
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the Windows good.bad sequence shows that microsoft are crooks
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Now I now why you're always grumpy
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I used 3.1
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: you arent getting any hahahahah
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He wore your mom out already and tossed her out with the rest of the trash
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hey, be fair to his mum, I kept her around for cleaning.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Stop being Grumpy I'm sure you can DIY
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Starling What's your email address  ?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: MsDos 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6.1 ok, MsDos 7 crippled with Win 3, Win3.1  
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: MsDos 7 lacked disk-error recovery present with MsDos 6.1
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Looking for some good books in the networking genre, anyone got any recommendations. Advanced level stuff, not a newbie.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: Just got a message.. echoing chats in main window disabled
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: and I don't know what I typed to make it happen.. and suggestions?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right click comm log
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scryn Tech: thank ya
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacellum Tech: i uninstalled a spellup plugin, but now when i 'spellup' i get "{sfail}333,0,1-1" and i don't know how to rid it.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: train underwater breathing?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacellum Tech: well that would help me stop failing it, but i mean, how do i stop it from showing at all?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Goatskill Tech: tags spellups off
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: write a trigger to capture it and recast the number, then check the box on the right that says omit from output
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sacellum Tech: ty Goatskill :) exactly.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone used a Logitech G600 mouse?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: my roommate does
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The buttons look as though I'd be clicking them with my ordinary grip - is there a better thumbrest spot?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: just under the buttons, if you don't want to be clicking them, but it does take a bit of pressure to click them too
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: I actually prefer the Performance Mouse MX, it's similar, a couple less buttons, but it's not QUITE as programmable
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: on the other hand, the fact that it only has 3 buttons on the side keeps me from saying something in one set of comms that should go in the other
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i don't get the point of having apps that my screen resolution doesn't support
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: those apps are to coerce you to upgrade to new screen hardware
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Next they'll send armed troops to your house to force you to upgrade.  Welcome to Iran and North Korea.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yes i will attach a larger screen to the netbook
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i fall in to the 2 categories that only support desktop mode
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: can't even try the apps to see if i hate them
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if an app is able to trick users into buying the app sight unseen, a profit is obtained from cheap programming
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: if a bear poops in the woods the next person through the woods will step in it
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: why do banking institutions insist on Active-X to be able to access their banking sites -- what does Active-X do in regard to security
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If your bank requires ActiveX, find another bank.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: activeX is a way of interacting with the database, but it's also really susceptible to hacking if not done perfectly
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: and yeah, find a different bank, they shouldn't be using something that insecure
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ActiveX went out with shockwave - the only 2 web development technologies I'd trust for internet banking are J2EE and .NET
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hdmnaren Halth Tech: anyone using winklewinkle search and destroy plugin?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: no no surely not!
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hdmnaren Halth Tech: I'm using the plugin, but the autohunt doesnt seem to work for me.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i use aardclient with 3moons and that's it
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hdmnaren Halth Tech: anyone has a hunt message of
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hdmnaren Halth Tech: the trail of a small dark viper is confusing, but you're reasonably sure it headed north
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: practice hunt more?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hdmnaren Halth Tech: mine's maximum now
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: What is the setting called in microsoft word when you type and it erases whatever is infront of what you typing
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: overstrike or something like that
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: because my mom put it on by accident and its annoying me right now because everytime i type it deletes whats infront
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: press insert?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: overwrite. Press Insert on keyboard.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: insert
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: and you need to set your anti-parental controls:)
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: guessing she misclicked delete or something
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, so question. I was out on a business trip, and returned to find out my 3 year old had broken my PS3 and my Wii.  Do I beat him, or see if I can get him a job as a QA tester? :)
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Child labor?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Is that ethical?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: it is if it's a family business:)
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: It looks like he has potential
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: actually helps me work on my tech skills, because now I need to troubleshoot and try and figure out what he did..
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: oh, and he changed my 360 to all Japanese:) that was a little easier to fix
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: I like your kid
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: And your hardware, can you adopt me?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: sure, extra tax break never hurts:)
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sougo Tech: I just downloaded the MUSHclient, I was wondering how to use the mushclient 
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sougo Tech: to play on this.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Did you download the version from help mushclient.  Made for Aardwolf?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: If you check around, in Aardwolf's web there is a mushclient already configured for Aardwolf, scripts included
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sougo Tech: Yes, I downloaded it directly from this site
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: I'd use that
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: so what you having trouble with? you already using it
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sougo Tech: I plan to but all it gives is a bunch of files, I am curious how to ignitiate the program.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sougo Tech: I am using the java client currently
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: unzip it, then click on the .exe
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just run the MUSHclient.exe file
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sougo Tech: alright, thank you.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sougo Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: In bash, how do I list all files not beginning with K?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I tried ls ^k* and ~k* but those don't work.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: random answer, but.... !k*?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That gave me !k*: event not found
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: OK, ls [^k]* works, thanks Nyine.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Yw, sorry for not being helpful :P
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: [!k]
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ls | grep '^[Kk]'
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: you can also normally range it depending on the shel ie [!k-y]
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Dagnir: I would have grepped, but I was really looking for a glob that I could put in a gitignore. :)
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Volos: I'll try that, hang on.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho my grep always does perl regex. not sure if the pattern works with regular settings
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Dagnir: your grep is probably aliased to call some arguments, or is compiled differently then.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Volos, your option seems to work too, now I have two ways to do it. Go CLI :P
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think the only main difference is that you can use \x flags with regular grep patterns
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. grep '^[Kk]' works
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: without using perl regex
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I think you can use both syntax in Grep
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: can't do \w+ and other nifty things with regular pattern matching tho. that's why i have regex on by default
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: very true [!] being the basic wildcard exclusion back to early unix
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: not to date myself....
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: anyone on know of some good optimization algorithms\programs for VBA?
T3/r7/2012-10-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Cool. Codeacademy now has Ruby to teach.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlotox Tech: Can anyone tell me, Using MUSHCilent is there is a way to filter chats out of the primary keep it in the Communication log window? 
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlotox Tech: primary window
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: right click on the comm window title bar and look at the echo options?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlotox Tech: i tried echo on/off but that didn't seem to help, are you refuring to the same?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: hmm, try typing chat echo off?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlotox Tech: i tried echo off but still got channel chats in the primary window
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: think you need level 2 tech support then :P
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so right clock
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: click
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: so i turned on some info channels but am not noticing any output in comparison to 'info -h 10'. is there something else i need to turn on?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use a custom echo list
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: what's that?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right click the comm window
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's quite a few options
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: oh sorry, i'm on a cell phone. should have clarified that.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah no idea then :)
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: cool beans. thx for responding. happy hunting!
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What info channels are you trying to see?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: noinfo?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: ha! that was it!
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher beams with pride.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jirvax smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It tells you at the bottom of 'info' whether it's on or not. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlotox Tech: the newbie channel can get chatty so i wanted to only see that in the Communication log window and not in the primary window
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah edit the channels that go to comm log so it's only that channel then
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: i made the assumtion it was talking about the various info options, not the main channel...modual...whatever.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jirvax throws his hands up in disgust at his lousy typing skills! 
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlotox Tech: i will try that, thaks!
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tlotox Tech: Ok it was in the Custom Echo window  thaks!
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So question, how would you get non-gmcp information to display/update in a mini-window? Something like number of friends online, etc.?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You'd need to have a way to initialize it (who friend, etc.), then have triggers to adjust it when needed, at its most basic.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: another info question: what does 'info other' report?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli thanks Pedwiddle heartily.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sorry, was in another windo. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can't type tonight.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: barely makin it myself in that arena
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, but you're on a phone.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm on a laptop.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: well, there is that...
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jirvax pours a steaming hot cup of coffee and gives it to Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mmmm coffee... Mana of the sysadmins? or something
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: lol! ya, or somethin
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: so what is the 'info other' about on the info channel?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I forget. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Everying not listed in info channels? :p
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: lol! np, just trying to clean up the feed. no biggy. i guess if i miss something important, my clannies will holler about it.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jirvax Tech: have a good night. thx!
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seductress Reina Tech: How can we track data usage in samsung galaxy y
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sigh...bleeping sigh.  Just implemented a whole file reading system with Regex, only to discover <regex> isn't supported by the uni marking machine. FML. FML hard.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A cute Yulian Tech: fml ?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Something my life.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Fudge my lines.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: fold my linen
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: dosent lua have something like...if value in list then? :)
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: or do i need to use if value == element1 or value == element2 ... then
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: if list is a table? Need to iterate, unless the value is keyed
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i want to do something easy like...if 1 in (1,2,3) then say 1 else say 2
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Where do you have the (1, 2, 3) stored?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i input them
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: manualy
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so if i want to add an element to list i just go in the function and add them
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right, but once they're inputted, where do they go? Will there always be 3, or might you want 1, or 5, or 100?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, hard coded - in that case probably easier just to use the if(i == 1 OR i == 2...)
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ic...yep its hard coded
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you want a variable number of possible things, then a table (like a vector, if you have done other languages) and an iterator (for loop is the easiest) is what you need.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i can use excel and add them manualy..np :) i just thought lua have something like if value in (my given listn) :)
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It does, but you have to spell it out a bit more :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there some plugin to show total stats of an item id
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I know I've asked before and it has passed me again.  How do I see what SW is being used by the 'xrt' command?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Assuming XRT uses mapper routing, go to the end room, get the room number, and do a mapper where <room number>
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: well once you are no longer in that room.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: mapper where.  thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: is there anything that might stop bast's miniwin moon plugin from working propperly? I always wait for the rise and fall of all 3 moons but the miniwin never seems to appear
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Are you outside?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: only very rarely
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: sry that was unclear yes im outside, ver rarely works
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No clue.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: his miniwin plugins are based on his broadcast plugins.  I can never get the double exp miniwin to pop up on its own though
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you use miniwin_tabbar, you will see when the moons rise, the problem is you hid the window at one time and it remembers whether it was hidden or not.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "mb print" and if none of them are nil then type "mb moons show"
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: thanks bast, i quit and re-entered and i noticed the message about noweather and autotick, i had autotick off, so hopefully now that i turned it on it should solve the issue
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: hmnn maybe that was 'moonscript' plugin *shrug* i will try what you said bast then ask again if id doesnt work
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: any other emacs users?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: vi is better
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: vim is acceptable
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: org-mode makes emacs rock
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it has an org mode?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: org-mode is a hierarchical outline mode with support for folding, project management, time management, and publishing
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: is there anyone that can help me with triggers? i'm really strugling and can't seem to understand them
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: Information that's important to know.  Now - what are you trying to do with them that you don't understand?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: you give it a string of info, and a value.  The value is the action that you want to trigger off of the string value.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: so, if my string is "recall" and my trigger is "XYZ attacks me" - then when I see the msg "XYZ attacks me" the trigger will fire and automatically send "recall" to the client.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: i wanto create a spellup trigger but can't seem to figure it out. It needs to check if i'm maxed self spelled up and if not to spellup. if that's not possible then to spellup every set amount of time.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Are you familiar with the spellup command?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Because all you need is a timer that sends that command I think.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: why do you need a trigger to do that?  Just type "spellup"...
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: lovin tt++
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: you mean the basic spellup command? Yeah but it would be awesome if i didn't have to type spellup every 3min. How do i set a time trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that wouldn't be a trigger, that would be a timer
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Timer wouldn't work as well as you think, anyway
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: the world would be a better place if people would learn to use the helpfiles packaged in their client... *smh*
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: this game just get's more and more advanced by the seccond
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: E.g. it would try to fire during combat, or at other times when you are unable to cast
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: help files doen't work, my windows isn't compatible with the help file
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RikiTiki Takihisis Tech: there's a helpfile for that on the aardwolf webpage, matter of fact.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: is there a way i can set that it checks if i'm in a fight or not and if i'm in a fight then not to trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I do that via my prompt
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: ok i've set my custom bprompt how can i set the timer to not activate when he picks up "Enemy:%b|"?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My god, what a horrible name.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I agree.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No offense, but that hurt my eyes, trying to read your name.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: why what is my name set as? I haven't changed it or anything
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ... xxxsoleusxxx?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It hurt just typing it.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: you guys are mean, how do i shorten it then?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You created it you should know.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not being mean, being honest.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can do a rename, but that'll cost you 2 tp.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: you mean i have to spend a TP to change it?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Regarding your question though, I don't know what you mean by not making the timer pick up on your bprompt.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not a TP, but 2 tps.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: ok i'll name change now, i mean so that when it picks up that line, it musn't activate the spellup commmand
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: He wants to make a timer to spell up, but wants it to check combat status so as to not fire during battle.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: if your using cmud you can make a gmcp trigger
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: exactly
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're using MUSH, there's several scripts out there for that reason.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And there's a few CMUD scripts that do that same thing.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just put a 0 at a certain place in my normal prompt, and a 1 at the same place in my battle prompt.  Then have a trigger for my prompt that, among other things, uses that number to tell if I'm in combat or not.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: ok, i'm using mush and there don't seems to be anywhere i can put so it'll check
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. My prompt and bprompt, respectively, are: Prompt: <stuff>> and Bprompt: <stuff>>
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why make it harder for yourself instead of downloading Bast or Winkle's plugins?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Or just send the spellup command on certain patterns instead of using a timer.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: a timer could get annoying
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: do you have a sit for me for the plugins please?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xxxsoleusxxx Tech: do you have a site* for me for the plugins please?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Finger Winklewinkle, finger Bast.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there an equivilant to zmuds #wait  in mush ?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can write a function for it.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But you may need coroutine to run, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: function delay_s(delay) delay = delay or 1 local time_to = os.time() + delay while os.time() < time_to do end end
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: dont mapper have a fucntion already ?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, there's a wait.lua file that handles it
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wasn't aware of that. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So there you have it. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's an example of how to use it at the top
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In the market for a new router?
T3/r7/2012-10-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The Linksys Smart Wi-Fi N600 Router (refurbished) for $43 is our big catch for today (normally $120 - use coupon code: HSDISH5). The device also comes with free shipping courtesy of Cisco. The N600 router has four Gigabit Ethernet ports, extended range with its MIMO antenna array, and delivers speeds up to 300Mb/s.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: jeez my samsung galaxy s3 battery is already 10% down i just charged it full and unplugged it from 99% not 25-30 minutes ago, i think i need to figure out how to close applications, that seems like a quick drain to me. or is that normal?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Using wifi?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: having wifi open will suck it's battery lift
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: life**
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: yeah, does that suck more or less battery than 4g?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: More
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Way more
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Korridel rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: so they charge you to save battery life basically?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: cuz that's kinda demented lol
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: welcome to the world of smartphones.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wifi uses less battery than 4G
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Does it? o.O
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: ok its 2 to 1 less
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: and i thought it used less cuz its slower right?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: im my experience, wifi drains less than 3g, but try the app carat for finding the reasons for battery drain
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Most of them have a way to check battery usage
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: In Settings somewhere
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: yeah i think i found it, but not how to close things that i'm not using per say, i'm new to android, let along galaxy3gs whatever it is hehe
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Check in applications in settings
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Or get Android Assistant
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just saying, carat seems way better than any other app i've tried for battery usage problems...
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: is android assistance a different app for doing what carat does then? as in i only need one?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: guess my question didn't make sense lol never saw a response, oh well, thanks for the suggestions anyways.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: what was the question again
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: hmm, ok more android stuff...?  is android assistant/carat different from rooting/unlocking?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Your Daddy Doodles Tech: heh again thanks for the responses lol
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Why does windows sometimes (randomly) mark folders read only?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And how do I stop it from doing this?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It is making it very hard to do my job here.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: visits to some websites may be doing that ?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It is saying this file is read only, it was not read only earlier in the evening, I did not change it.  Running program as admin accomplishes nothing.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: eat s--- and die bill gates, your software is complete crap.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Bill Gates is laughing at microsoft customers as he travels to the bank
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saffron n Lemon Tech: is v86 a good mccp version?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's what mush uses
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: do the moons still effect enchantment ? 
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: ssd: kingston or corsair?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's the regex for 2 or more spaces
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: blank ones
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: \s\s+    ?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno, will try
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: work Trez?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if the item has ()
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it kind of breaks it
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what's an example of what your matcihng?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: (asdasd) asdasdasd
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just an eq name
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's only one space?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the issue isn't space but
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the brackets mess it up
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the spaces were to indicate the item name's over, and then remaining of the line starts
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does it make sense
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: \s\s+ doesnt match anything in (asdasd) asdasdasd
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I said it's to cut off the rest of the line
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: | Name       : (LEgeNdary) Sceptre of Zhurk                       |
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: an you want the trimmed name?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: match="^\| Name       \: (.*?)\s\s+"
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I want to put the name
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in a table
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but it outputs error and I think it's cause of the () brackets in the name
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the error isss... lemme dig it
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: [string "Trigger: trig0"]:2: '=' expected near 'of'
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's no of in the trig, it's from the name
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ^\| Name       \: (.*) \s+\|$      < doesn't that work?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: an explicit space then \s+
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: my trig works fine
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: [string "Trigger: trig0"]:2: ')' expected near 'Sceptre'
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the brackets fuck it up, I'm pretty sure if it has no brackets it'd work
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: lemme try
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no :P
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I guess not the brackets
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if id a moon wine
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's  ')' expected near 'Wine'
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud... i use the one i said... cept in zmud i dont need \ before :
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: problem was I needed to use quotes
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if my trig is (string1|string2|string3)
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it matches it
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is there a way to tell which ofthe 3 matched
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: and you do if else blocks?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: could but if too many gonna be pain in the ass
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Not unless you do a subsequent pattern match - they'll all be stored in the same variable
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: actually can't do if checks either
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's doable in zmud, so should be able to in mush....
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does mush have some form of ismember() ... you can put your match in a var... bar=item1|item2|item3 , trigger off the var... #TRIG {@bar} , then ismember(foo,@bar) returns 1,2, or 3
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I'll just skip those for now, it's for illu/reso/soli
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and invdetails shows it all in one line
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's not creating a table, but outputs no error, what could the error be
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sql one
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: databaseexec returns 1
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there any GMCP data that can query whether char is AFK or not ?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: gmcp.char? status
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: status I think
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: char.status.state
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks! that is what I am looking for :)
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: this sql won't accept a string, going into a text field
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why would that be
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: does the numbers okay
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: do you have it delimited?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't think I do
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: why would it need to be delimited makes no sense
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: or check the length of the field
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: length is fine
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: utf-16 characters in utf-8 datatype?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just compress! :D
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Micro SD cards, what's the largest size? 32 GB?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: 64GB I believe.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: On a micro SD card? Very nice!
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Is there a Minecraft for Android?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in mush how do you find out the current room number?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's under mapper help somewhere, don't know offhand.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: if you have mapper than 'mapper thisroom'
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: mapper thisroom
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. AMD warned investors its third-quarter revenue will probably drop 10% due to sluggish demands and consumer preference to tablets, and AMD's stock took a beating, dropping below $3, the lowest it's been in 3 years. Now it's hovering around $2.86 per share.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Barcode C128 labels in Crystal Reports.  And people wonder why I drink...
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's the syntax for colournote and xterm colours
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: anyone good with python willing to give me some help?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i'm okay with python, what's the problem?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Well, it keeps eating my cat...
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: a script that worked fine yesterday before a power outage now save command not valid when called from python.exe
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: says*
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: what exactly is the error? is windows not calling python to execute the script? or is the script starting and then throwing an exception of some sort?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: checked the .py and everything seems fine but the script doesn't function and spits command not recognized error
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i think you should make a pastebin of the exact terminal output
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: it would take a few its on a different rig
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: well the main problem is that i can't imagine why it wouldn't run now if it ran yesterday unless a file somewhere has changed
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: so if the script itself didn't change, then some sort of system config file probably changed or didn't get saved and reverted after the crash or something
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can you reinstall the plugin?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: os.path.abspath now says c:\user\owner.owner-pc 
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: (and this is why I don't like the idea of downloading plugins, you are at the programmer's mercy)
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: did it not say that path before?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: its not a plugin for mush was using it to decopress files
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: no now do i have to rewrite all the filepaths? or is there a way to change that dir?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: well, how are you finding that directory? os.path.abspath has an argument, what are you sending it?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: import os then printing from there
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: printing what? like, what's the exact line that uses os.path.abspath?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: was worried optparse got corrupted if its a path issue should be alot easier to fix.. just got no real clue python is completely new to me
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: was checking i can't find the line i used kind wrote it on the fly
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Dragon RandAlthor Tech: this as close as i can get to what i used to print  'import sys, os'  'print 'sys.argv[0] =', sys.argv[0]'  'pathname = os.path.dirname(sys.argv[0])'  'print 'path =', pathname'  'print 'full path =', os.path.abspath(pathname)'
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Is there a "best" time of year to buy a laptop? I.e. during the Thanksgiving-Christmas shopping season, back to school? or are prices pretty constant?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: January
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I'm sure there'll be some day-after-thanksgiving sales
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Damn, $500 off a laptop...
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 17.3" Toshiba Satellite P870-BT2G22 2.3GHz Core i7 Laptop with 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 630M, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 1TB hard drive for $863 with free shipping at Toshiba Direct (normally $1,360).
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: lol GT 630M, might be worth it if it was a GTX 680.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: 680M*
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I just copied it, so don't blame me. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: No blame, just 863 is probably about what it should be priced.. Its a "sale".
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at Pepe Le Pieu.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no way i'd pay 1300 for a laptop without a ssd in it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you're wrong, anyway. The link at Toshiba Direct shows: NVIDIA. GeForce. GT 630M 2GB with Optimus
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://bit.ly/OtEP5W
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if i want to restart a service on ubuntu whats the command for that?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: besides restart?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is that all it is restart <servicename>
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: I think ubuntu dumbed down things forcing reboots aka windoze style :P
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ahh.. same thing on osx?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: service <servicename> restart
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: GT 630M is for multimedia mostly, i wouldnt game on it.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: No PhysX
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: This is the 800MHZ core clock version with DDR3 memory type but it seems a version with a 64 bits bus will also be available which will affect the Memory Bandwidth and therefore perform worse. Very Demanding games will run at low or medium settings and less demanding games at high settings. ..."
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: DDR3 is crap for gaming
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Gaming on a laptop is like buying a cavalier and putting an aftermarket body kit on it. You just dont do it.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: i thought alienware made some decent gaming laptops
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: alienware is nice, but overpriced
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Theyre overpriced anymore for what you could get out of an ASUS.. Either way for how much a "gaming laptop" would cost you could get twice as powerful a desktop for half the cost.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the "gaming laptop" niche is an odd one
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: but the advantage is that it's portable, unlike a desktop...
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah much easier to steal
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: I like to game at home, naked... not at an airport.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you really need to play bleeding edge games on the road?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: friend of mine when I went to cornell, had a alienware laptop that he gamed with, but he also took to class for notes, writing papers, et cetera
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: if you've only got one computer, it seems to make sense
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Components in laptops crap out faster too, especially high performance ones.. Heat.. in a confined space. I dont care how good the ventilation is.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Alienware is pretty reliable
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: nod, he had a cooling plate under it in his room, for when he gamed on it
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: owned by Dell
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: shrug
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Alienware is a nightmare to work on. hardware wise.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: but you still understand what i'm saying, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: pay 40% premium for the name :P
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Id rather have a kick ass tower, and a $350 asus or equivalent laptop for school.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Boba Felt Tech: okay, that's not what I asked, but thanks for playing, folks.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: dunno I think an acer can still pump the fps out on aard *ducks*
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: a cheap laptop to carry about in case it gets broken or worse, stolen
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pepe Le Pieu laughs at Twisting FatesDagger mercilessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Felt what was your question
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: people see you carrying an Alienware around, you become a target
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: much like carrying a macbook around
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: its like wearing an idiot sticker on your forehead... I have more money than braincells.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: macbooks are a whole 'nother dispute.. rofl
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: still fates comment still applies :P
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Plus idk if you've ever held a gaming laptop... its like 20 lbs lol
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: I'd rock an acer for school =D
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: my brother has an Asus laptop and he can run recent games on it. when you buy a laptop, you must really study its specs and check if upgrading it's memory is an option. but when you game on a laptop, it usually just lasts 1h+.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: How many cells does the battery have?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: depends on battery
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: most people i kno with laptops rarely if ever carry then around
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just leave them plugged in at home
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: an 8 cell battery should last like 2 hours if you game on it.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it's because laptops are less cluttered than desktops :) though i only buy desktops because of the sound economics of it and desktops usually trump laptops.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that and desktops seems to last a lot longer
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm currently on a 7 year old pc
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: if you buy a laptop for gaming, you should be ready to sacrifice some of the framerate. if not you will end up buying a really big laptop.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: How do I get to the corridors in xyl's again? Through rock garden to rose ether...
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: hunt rubber
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How is this a tech question?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You realize we have a question/answer channel, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pepe Le Pieu Tech: Cuz hes playing on a computer.
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pepe Le Pieu throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: woops sorry that was a mist
T3/r7/2012-10-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: is there a way for a trigger made in the MushClient trigger editor to access a variable stored by a plugin? I want a trigger that can do X or Y based on some GMCP data, specificly player status (combat / standing / sleeping / etc)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: for duckbat .. if i want to get a list of items from a specific area how do i enter that ?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Hrm, the antitrust case against Google is getting serious?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: is there a plugin that just gags all spellup statements? casts, spells wearing off, etc?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: would only take one trig...
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or maybe 3
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: would take rather a number of triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not if use spell tags
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: well, rather a number of patterns all in one trigger maybe, but that'd be silly
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: ah-haaaaa, i forgot about those
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: prolly talking about: Your globe of invulnerability shimmers and fades.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: those finally get tagged?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh they're not? lame
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wtf is the point of spell tags then?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: it makes a tagged line for affects wearing off, but doesn't tag the line where the game tells you a spell wore off
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and the {affoff}123 is after the human message iirc
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that made no sense
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: can spells wear of and the game doesn't tell you?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's before.... {affoff}102   Your biofeedback is no longer effective.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so still easy to gag with like 3 triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: off, up, fail
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or one with right pattern
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ok then, silly oz getting me confused :P
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud #TRIGGER {^~{(%w)~}*$^*$} {#IF (%begins(%1,"aff") OR (%1 = "sfail")) {#GAG -1}} or similar
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should be fairly easy to do a mush one with omit from output
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i'll look into it when it isn't 4am
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: could even do (affoff|affon|sfail) in the trigger and forget the if statement
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: anyone know how to move this cp window. it seems stuck in one place and not fully shown
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: winkles?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: sorry yeah its winks
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: all my other mini windows move/resize just fine
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Sigh...that moment when the uni work I've been coding in VS ports, recompiles, and performs EXACTLY the same on the uni's Solaris box...almost sex.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Probably the closest thing to sex you'll ever get, huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Nah, my hand and I have a date with your mum later.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Have fun with that.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Server-Dump.aspx
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: do we dare? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. and eww
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: anyone have had a problem with winkle winkle mapper, that if i try to add additonal portal with command mapper portal portalwearalias, it doens't apper to the list "mapper portals"?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper portals is a mapper command not a winkle command....
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like you're confusing the 2
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: either way, aint working as it should :P
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: ok, mapper then
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: try adding portals the mapper way
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: the mapper way?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: i used the wrong expression i added it the mapper way
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no idea then
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use mapper portal myself
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: hmmmm... I generally type "mapper portals p_apple" for instance. With p_apple being my portal alias. While I am in the room it leads to.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: 'mapper portal' even *tired*
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, that's what was done
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: the same for me, i have 34 different mapper portals listed, somehow the command doesn't add any other now
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh i heard about that
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you upgraded recently that function got broke
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: doh
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jeejee goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: actually yes i did
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Suddenly my desire to upgrade is way low. :P I have windows open and I've been meaning to do it forever. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: either downgrade or upgrade again
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even newer version fixes?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well fiendish was aware of the problem like a week ago...
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jeejee Tech: ok, i can try upgrade then, let's see how it works
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: is any way i can get mobdeath table? :)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to "get" it, type the command :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i want to store it on my sql table :)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so do so
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yeah...but you get only top 100 kills
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so if you want to catch all the table you need to do it around 60 times :)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you get the top 100 kills that meet the criteria you specified...
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i want all of them...thats the problem :)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's no problem
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: from lvl 1 to max...
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: so call the command 220 times, and append?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: are there mobs >220? idk
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: level alone isn't always enough to drop it below 100 entries :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Seems 235 is the max
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: especially after a long uptime
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: hrm.  level*align(3)*area...gonna need a LOT of calls :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yeah...thats my problem :) i thought i can acces it in a way
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so script it to happen when you're asleep nightly/weekly...there is no problem :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "I can do it but I have to do this" is not the definition of a problem, it's the definition of a solution
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And must be level 200+, to be able to enter all areas to do so
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to do it by area, but yeah, that's another way to handle it
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, Abelinc, there are problems of feasability, having a single inadequate solution can still be a problem.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Doesn't apply to this case, however
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no problem of feasability here
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caramel Milkshake Tech: in gnome classic or gnome 2 is there a way to get a command line launcher in the title bar?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i know it's possible, it should be a builtin widget-thing you can add
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: though i haven't used Gnome in like 2 years so i can't recall the exact steps
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So.. I want to build a machine to play with some windows networking stuff... Something that can host a few VMs for like.. AD server, file server, maybe exchange and such. Just for home use, maybe up to like 5 PCs on the network. Any suggestions on what kind of  power I'd need? And any other machines I should be looking to run in a similar direction?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how do i send to command from lua? :)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Send ('')
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: send is sending the command...i want to do the same like for triggers...
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i want to do the same with send to command (triggers)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: in a trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: nope...in code :)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher sighs.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: like function() Command("say hello") end
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so you don't like send?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: send it sending the command...i want only to write it...then i can press enter to send it
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no idea i'd set a variable and use a alias/macro
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: hmm.  just upgraded to r1700 in mush.  getting an initial error and then "Alias funcion "mag_goto" not found or had a previous error." with the mapper.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Perhaps it should be map_goto and not mag_goto?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, yeah, typo in reproducing the error.  Alias function "map_goto"
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, well then, no clue.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: works after I first log in.  at some later point, it stops working.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: won't work again until I shut down and restart.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't have anything disabling it, do you?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: can't imagine why.  worked just fine on 1658.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I've changed nothing, other than upgrading to r1700.  so, same scripts, etc.  only use stock + bast.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: the command "mapper goto #" just doesn't work anymore.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: tyeb try to disable/enable plugin ... or re-install plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He already quit out, going back to 1658l
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: yeah, sorry, back to 1658 at this point.  I just want to relax tonight, not interested in debugging.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Biske Tech: Anyone know of a good antivirus program I can DL for free?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: avast
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mse
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: windows 7 security 2013
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: avast
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: avast
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: yarr landlubbers, abandon ship
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: clan
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: clam
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Microsoft Security Essentials. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: which os i suppose should be asked
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I run clam on my qmail server too
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: and squid box
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: and avast on my win7 box
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol apparently windows security 2013 is a virus :P
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: still a fn of xp
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ransome-ware
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ransom-ware*
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can barely stand xp anymore, but that's just cause win 7 has spoiled me
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: spoiled ?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: eh an win os is an win os
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I love XP but I had to move with the times.  I don't run RH9 anymore either
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: everything is just easier in win 7
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: unfortunately I can't Wine Crystal Reports XI so my main OS is Win7
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: could be worse, you could be stuck with OSX *duck*
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: and it runs like crap via RDP
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: OSX has proven to be more resource hungry than win7
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: but I still support it bc my CxO staff are Macheads
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I used to walk around with 5 or so os flashes in my pocket at any given time
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I wish Evernote worked on Linux.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I carry Portable Apps now
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: evernote doesn't? I thought it was webbased
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I just stopped walking 
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I use the app for Win, IOS, and Android
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: most of my Aardwolf notes are in Evernote now
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: while I'm thinking about bad old os, is anyone on good at vba'
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: "good" at vba?  that possible?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: probably need to indicate which "a" 
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: vba excel here mostly but it's been a while
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yeah I don't really like it and tried to get the client to use R
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I spent most of my time in Java these days.  Following the app craze
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I've all but got an M$ help to admit to it, but I don't think call, select, or range fuctions can handle any enternal parsing
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I mean the syntax is horrbile
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: so Select.Range(x, y+1) I don't think can work, unless anyone can tell me otherwise
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I've written around it so I'm modding vars first
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: but I'm trying to cut lines for speed
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: couldn't tell ya
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: eh it was worth a shot
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I divide most of my time in pearl, java, c#, and python but I dabble in a lot
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Python and PHP are my other priorities
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yeah I can't get away from php no matter how hard I try.  Is it against the rules to be logging and building maps on my local machine?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: what are you trying to do volos? looking at some of my old code, it's Range( <range params> ).Select .. not Select.Range( <range params> ).. then you play with Selection object
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yeah you're righ on the order I have it set right in the code now that I'm looking right at it.  Something like  ActiveCell.Offset(-j, -i).Range(x, y+2).Select
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I'm still rehabing my R-hand so my typing still isn't great, should have just started with a copy :p
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i always preferred absolute references instead of relative ones (actually affected performance repeatedly updating the active cell due to redraws).. so you're goal is to select a small range of cells relative to the current one?  originally mentioned cutting lines (which i interpret as cutting rows), so just want to make sure i'm reading correctly
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I said something about cutting?  I didnt mean to.  I'm transforming matrixes of 10x12 cells that are mostly int but some text strings, sets of roughly 126 matrixes (cat-ed together), and about 2,300 sets, I'm preforming 82 different calculations (readout) per matrix, and re-arranging the data
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I don't think I have any cuts
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay, misread then.. so goal is to select one of the matrices?
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: it would be to select the next row to repeat certain caluclations
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: well cells within the matrix of that row but yes
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: how about this?  if i want to take my current cell and select the "row" that is one above, and cells that are one to the left and end two to the right:
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: StartCell = ActiveCell.Offset(-1, -1).Address
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: EndCell = ActiveCell.Offset(-1, 2).Address
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: Range(StartCell, EndCell).Select
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: just use appropriate offsets in there but should work
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: oh, well first as I meantioned it can be done by adding extra vars, in your case StartCell and EndCell
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: seems a little cleaner than trying to compress into a single statement
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: of course, you could replace the references in the final command, too
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: agreed, but not nessaraly faster give the scope of the work.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: and it's not just 5 to the left 6 to the right, the reaching of var x or y is a bit tricky as It's going from references gleened in previous matrix anyalsis.  I will just leave it with the additional vars in place, and try to streamline else where.  I might also remind the client VBA is slow.
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: the offset method lets you put in arbitrary parameters, so you would need extra variables for there -- just hardcoded for sake of example
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: I personally would charge them extra due to it being in VBA. 
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: definitely agree vba is slow
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: don't worry I am :)
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: a "Pain and suffering" line on the invoice
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I cut them some slack b/c they are willing to work with me out of the clinic, but yeah i made it clear that it was going to take much longer to do it in VBA
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rollindie Tech: i jsut downloaded the aard MUSHclient, and i have a few questions. first off, where is my text for when i type? lol
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: shows up at the very bottom in a white bar
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rollindie Tech: oh snap,that is small, didn't see it
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: make it bigger
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: make it biggerwa
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oops
T3/r7/2012-10-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rollindie Tech: i draged it to make it larger, but when ever i type anyhting it jsut shrinks again. is there another way? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: anyone able to tell me why the NSEW etc....buttons are unresonsive to touch for me?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: num lock turned off?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you hit numkey by accident?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: numlock, *nod*
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: He's on the blowtorch app
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then no clue.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: no numlock on my tablet
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Out of curiousity, know what flavor of android you're running?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Think I might have heard that someone else had some problems when they moved to Jelly Bean.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: ummm android 4.0.4 i think that is jelly bean
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 4.0.x is ice cream sandwich.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Should work fine on that, as far as I know
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: hrrmm well is there a help file cuz when i touch one all it does is scroll my screen 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: ill try on my phone and see if it has the same issue
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: only button on phone that works is score the rest are unresponsive...on tablet all are unresponsive
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: double check the mapping.  do you have aliases in game that override the letters n,s,e,w,u,d?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: im brand new and havent changed anything 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I use the blowtorch aard app on 2.3.5 and it works fine.  Check the buttons.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: how do i check them  when i touch them nothing happens
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: My button on my phone app don't work right either, I use a droid 4 with ICS
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: been like that for a while
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: ok then   guess im old schooling it and typing it all out lol
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: thats whats I do when I use m phone lol
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just FYI, you can also (and most people do) play from a PC with a full-fledged mudding client.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I don't know how to change button sets on blowtorch, sorry
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: pcs are so old school
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: must be a droid thing cuz both phone and tab dont work....
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: the problem with most tablets is that the default location for the buttons is also the defaule screen location to cause a scroll
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: and the OS overrides the app, and causes the scroll
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haagenti Tech: lol if pcs are old then im friggen dust lol
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: How could I revert a string back to normal in c# I tried using myString.Normalize()
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: What do you mean by 'normal'?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: To just revert it to what it was originally declared
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: I guess without having to redeclare it
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: String are immutable.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: By definition they cannot be changed.  If you put a new value in the variable, just put that value back again :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: So I just have to redeclare it then? Theres no method huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, there is no method to roll back assigning a new value to a variable.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Other than storing and reassigning the old value.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Without a time machine.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: by typing it all out again huh
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Well it sounded like it was a thing in my head, but I guess there is no such thing ;_
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I have the lurking suspicion that whatever you are doing, you should be doing it with two variables rather than one.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: It's just printing out something silly like "Cats Rule" using substring to butcher it, then I wanted to revert it back to normal and use ToUpper and reprint it again
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: It's a lesson on strings and this is purely out of curiousity, this isn't homework XD
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: well you could just print the substring without assigning it...
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: That did it.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Well a lesson was learned, thank you.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could move even further: create sting-like datatype, that will remember all previous values
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: That might be beyond me right now, I'm just learning at the moment with beginner videos
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: videos teach very very little usually (compared to textbooks)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Well I'm moving from video to book
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: I started with a book but it was beyond me even though it was suppose to be a beginners book
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: There is a really good video tutorial up on c# for the absolute beginner 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, if you never worked before with any IDE, videos can be good start
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tbh, I would consider C# to be a poor learner's language, but perhaps it's just me
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Pascal was invented with being educational in mind
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Mmmm.  I might even recommend you try something much simpler, just to get the concepts of programming down.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for programming concepts, Logo could be great
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: E.g. Logo or Scratch or whatever they
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: 're using these days.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: There's this program called Alice - I'd been programming for a few years before I was shown it, but I'm told it is exceptional for learning to program
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: I've worked with visual studio and C# before but I'm not a pro.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: But I'll take any advice given, why would C# be poor to learn?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: C# is simple in that it's memory managed (no need to handle creation or destruction of memory), but it is aimed at the CLI, which is rather specialised insofar as programming goes
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is low-level oriented language
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: CLI is specialized? since when?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so it is good to profit on it, but not good to start with programming
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Well I was hoping to learn from it and branch on to C/C++
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: there are many places that teach Java as an initial programming language, but even that can be kind of complicated
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: C/C++ are even lower than C#
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: c would actually be easier than c#
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: as for what I learned on, there is an awesome thing called 'BlueJ', allows visual and immediate interaction with Java
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Much, much lower :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://www.bluej.org/
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: java is a bad first language because you can't ruin your program hard enough while using it and you can't get enough abstraction while using it
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: so either way you're not really accomplishing as much as you should be doing with you time
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lokathor, not being able to ruin a program hard enough is a good thing, for a newbie... learn control flow, variables, OOP, then move on to handling mallocs and what have you
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: not in my opinion. If you're going to play with swords then you should start with swords from the start.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Java suffers from being aimed at the JVM just as much as C# suffers from being aimed at the CLI, but at least it's portable.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: what do you mean suffers? Suffers how? specifically.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: What about the people who don't want to play with swords, but just want a dagger for small tasks? ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Perl. *duck*
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: they can use scheme like a proper gentleman in a proper gentleman's duel
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Suffers in that learning how the CLI or JVM responds to things is not ideal when wanting to learn how 'generic machine here' responds to things.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use Python instead of ugly Perl
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Minor, but the sort of thing which teaches awful habits early on.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: but there is no "generic machine here" to begin with
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would say direct to OS is better than going through a runtime environment.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav buries Lokathor in an avalanche of parens.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Especially as he wants to get into C/C++
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: (I do actually like Scheme though)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: no, not all programs should be done in c/++, very very few of them in fact should be done in c/++
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well, the question is, why Mopop wants to learn c/c++
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Uhm game development
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Basically
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: but for learning, you should either learn the theory of computer science (scheme) or how to play with swords and not end up bleeding (C)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for game development better go java (Android market)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh now.  If C is a sword, Java is a padded sword.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: Java: The boffer of programming languages
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Java is a great one for early learning game dev, as you can get into Swing/AWT and canvas style 2d or even dodgy dodgy 3d game development REALLY early in the learning process
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: yeah, i've got a roguelike i setup in java, it's alright
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: haven't worked on it in forever... you can win... but you can't lose :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Well besides games, I just think it's fun/cool to mess with computers too.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You in school still?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: me?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: and of course what programming set is complete without talking about the great mysteries of Haskell
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Nah, I'm a college drop out :)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lokathor enthusiastically high-fives Mopop!
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Try getting into a TAFE (or whatever they call that where you live) course - usually pretty cheap, money and timewise
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Oh yeah? Whats that all about?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: Anyone know if its possible to link a pc gaming controller to work with mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: me too
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They might call it vocational school? or basically tertiary education, but not uni - possibly community college?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: I saw it on youtube where that guy linked is xbox controller to work with zmud I think it was.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mopop Tech: Oh yeah community college. Yeah, It's uhm kind of cheap haha
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can setup a controller to send keyboard input, and from there it's as easy as a macro.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I'd use the wiimote
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: ah oky I will see what I can do.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fitness AND pups :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: so it can be set like the keyboard numpad setting right?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that was me :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: for aoe you make a big z? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can use accelerators for other keys besides numpad
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zquxG_wP54Y
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: yes i have seen that vid
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: and thats what i want to do xD
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: why you reinventing the wheel?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: d00d 24 views!
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: get joy2key
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: make macros in client
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: but instead of using an xbox remote I want to use a pc controller
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same thing
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: and it should work in mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: xbox is a usb controller with windows drivers
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: does mush have keyboard macros? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: also using a usb controller
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: xbox is usb
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: just not my xbox controller
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: joy2key.exe... google
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: wait so I can just take my xbox controller with the usb part and it will work the same?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ANY windows controller to keyboard commands
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: same as my pc controller i mean
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: download the driver...
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: driver is ther if ya use xp sp3 or anything newer
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Google suggests a (paid) program called 'xpadder'
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i do
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Allows you to convert any gamepad or joystick device to keyboard or mouse input
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/2/I/JoyToKey/JoyToKey.htm
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im using the free one
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: plug in your windows recognized controller.. run joy2key
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: tell it what keys to send to windows apps
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's the easy part
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you need a script to set targets and and alias to kt"kill target"
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or just aoe :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: New way to bot - turbo controller and an elastic band :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i dont like aoe... i dont train wis/con too well
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ozzy, that's what pots are for.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods oz, but it's hella easier to setup :)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Hello, anyone on using Mudlet? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hello, anyone? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no one is here
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but if you just ask something, your likely to get an answer
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: how do I apply command stacking to the mapper cexits use double semi-colon?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Like this (if this is what you mean) mapper open n;;n
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: forgot cexit there sorry
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thats what I thought, just double the semi colon?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: thankee
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hello? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: yes baby?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can I be your guide in the cold and dark world
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: haha. have experience with Mudlet by chance? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: sure, if you can help me with my client 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I use mushclient :(
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: aw no fun 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mushclient > all
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you should be cooler than mudclient, and install mush
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i'm a Mac girl
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: most clients don't like mac
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you Asian by any chance
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds like a trendy
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: mush works fine on linux/wine, I see no reason why it shouldn't work on mac/wine too
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: mac/wine ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: how can i create an alias which execute only for letters? like...test %a say %1 ..i want to say %1 only if %a are letters
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't you use regex in alias name definitions, or is it just *?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can on mush
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i can use..but i dont know exactly how it should be...^test %a$ ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: http://mushclient.com/mushclient/regexp.htm
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: range of characters like sql
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure if %a is the equivalent to an unlimited length (ie, {1} or {1,}), like in zscript.  If not, you'll have to specify the range somehow.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: could also use /a+, I think.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there anythin in mush that works like #say in zmud ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: what does #say in zmud do
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: echos to me pretty much
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: note() in mush
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #SAY prints to the window, allowing other triggers to trigger on the output.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: can mix variables and strings too like note("HP:", hpvar)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: ah note doesn't do that, note is purely an echo
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: wanna  through up info  without sending to world 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i'll try note
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it also prints color, via ansi or mxp tags.  You'd need ColourNote() in mush for that.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: cant use note(saythisstring) from cmd line
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't you need to use the script prefix from the command line?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes you do
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also you need to capitalize it
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: \\\Note("Cute as a button")
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: for example i have a list of patroxis mobs/room nbr wanna echo that to main window
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cept in a script without \\\
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea why SetCommand dosent work correct?so goes for PrintCommand...
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: LUA is such a pain as a case-sensitive language
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: thx all
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so any ideea why SetCommand-PrintCommand dosent work correct?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably are giving it bad data to work with, or are expecting it to do something it doesn't do.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: While navigating via the mapper, can you go up and down via mouse?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: can you use a phone as a sever ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: as a server?  Probably not.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Why not ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what type of server?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: data usage.  Too much and they'd probably throttle you.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Website Sever
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it can be.  It's a computer
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: not sure it is practical
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: seems there is an app for the iphone
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are lots of apps for the iphone. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: seems there is an app for the iphone... to act as a webserver
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what's an 'iphone'?  :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think people like it for the rounded corners
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: I've got android.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: Does anyone have a plugin to show auctioned items in separate win - for mushclient ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it already comes with one.  Comm Log.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: I mean to show details about auctioned items
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: ...nothing to do with AArd.. but has anyone scanned 35mm slides?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ages ago.  I had a template to hold them and a 1200dpi photo scanner
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: you pulling from negative slides or projector slides?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: mainly projector
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: most photo labs can do it
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: but I so have some negs I want to do to.... nah... 1000's of them we want archived
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: if you have that many then you might want to invest in a photo scanner or rent one
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I was thinking of finding one on ebay sub $300 but not sub $30 then hoping to sell it back, but don't want to buy a junker.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone know why Youtube is down?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Your mom sat on it
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's not down.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: It's not down
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it isn't
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: It's not down
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Let me rephrase that: Why Youtube is being a dick.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because you haven't show it some love lately?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Clicking any video gives an error message. For a split second, just going to Youtube gave the same error message. Now it seems to be working, but I don't expect it to last.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I'd never seen that error message before. It was essentially a Google 404.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it works perfectly here
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The snag seems to have passed.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: All that bitching for nothing.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: maybe the servers are not serving the country where Yuna is located 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh look, the error is back.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: "502. That's an error."
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: no its not
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: 502 here now too
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: First time I've ever seen this error.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: so they're having trouble with their server... we're supposed to know the details of the problem?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: bottleneck from too many users accessing Youtube ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: No, originally, I thought it was a common new error that might've occurred before, so people might know what's going on. Also, it was impossible for me to know how long the error had been occurring.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Final day of Austin City Limits Music Festival. Maybe that has something to do with it. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 502 is a bad gateway
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: probably its going to be closed by FBI for all that pirating
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seems like a number of people are reporting the error. Google "youtube 502 error" and limit the search to past 24 hours" :p
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: crappy digital renditions are not worth pirating unless the pirates like crap -- but then legitimate users also get that crap at a price -- a lot of suckers and marks out there
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh just shut up about stuff that isn't even relevant.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wait... that Felix guy is gonna jump again?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: already did
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Apparently, one theory is that it's because people are trying to watch the stream.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the guy jumped and landed
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: did they video the splat in gory highdefinition color
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on his feet like a total boss
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the vultures are disappointed 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: So did he actually break the sound barrier or not?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Felix broke the highest manned-balloon jump, but failed to break the longest freefall.  I think he may have gotten the sound-barrier record, too, but dunno about that yet.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh, I'm so done.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: iunno, world record tho
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: How did he fail to break the record for longest freefall?!
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: quite simple, really.  He pulled the chute too early.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I assumed that. My question is: Why? Brainfart?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Miscalculation?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nyine Tech: Fear
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: his visor was getting foggy
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Any number of factors, really.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: that ballon must've been high for Felix to reach 700 mph in a freefall
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: someone said on ct
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: *nod trez*
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he pulled chute at 4:22, record was 4:36
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: and if you are falling quickly, it might take a bit longer to slow down? Not sure on the details.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I have decided I need to drink more redbull though
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the capsule was up to 128k feet, or 24.5 miles high.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he was probably scared a bit when he slammed into atmosphere and started tumbling.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: slammed ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: he did bring it under control rather quickly
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he got through that alright, though, but was probably scared a little more when his visor fogged out.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: It kinda feels like watching spaceships launch into space or land. :)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Wikipedia is strangely mum on what records he actually broke.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, slammed.  His jump started moreorless in vacuum so there was no resistance at all.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: height of jump, yuna
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: previous record was 31,332m, this was 36,500m
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: give it a few minutes. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: WHat's the speed for Mach 1 in feet/sec again?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: near vacuum -- how was he breathing in a near vaccum
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: oxygen tubes?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he had a spacesuit on
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: 1125ft/sec
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: speed of sound depends on the air temperature
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: almost surprised they didn't try modeling the capsule on one of NASA's modules.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: According to Wiki, he MIGHT have broken the sound barrier. But it's iffy because they only talk about what Mach 1 is at sea level.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: speed of sound is not affected by air pressure ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the suit instrumentation was calculating it differently.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I doubt he broke it, the transsonic barrier would impart a lot of drag, aircraft are hard-pressed to go through it with engines, let alone gravity by itself
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: speed of sound is defined at ground level, dry air and 20C
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: According to a Mach calculator I found, apparently, it's regulated by altitude and temperature.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: he had like 7 minutes of oyxgen on him when he jumped.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: affected by altitude --> affected by pressure (and temperature at that altitude)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Hello? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mikejs Tech: hi
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Goodbye?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know why I say goodbye, you say hello.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne P 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: printf("Hello World!");
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Man Rhuli Tech: I don't think so, Battlepride, without scripting anyways.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers intently at The Man Rhuli.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: just doing my regular poke to find out if anyone is on using Mudlet :-) 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: just ask your question. People can't help without knowing what your question is.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay. why isn't the mudlet package working 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's quite vague. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hence my request for mudlet people :P 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: installed it just as the say. it brought up some windows, but they're not filled in like they should be
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: it's probably missing something it needs to work.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: no conversations being filtered to the tabbed chat, no maps, nada 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is there a reason you're using MUDlet though, instead of MUSH or anything else?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Mac 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MUSH runs on Mac with Wine.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or whatever. Check the downloads.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hmmmm k
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think Fiendish has Wine download on the AardMUSH wiki.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah i'll just talk to someone on mudlet. i really don't have any desire to learn a new client and a new mud at the same time. 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: thanks though
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, AardMUSH comes preconfigured with just about everything most players need, including conversation windows, a mapper, stats window, etc.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And a lot of other players have created plugins that are easy to install to take care of other things, like spellups, tracking your exp, etc.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i think it's a windows only client 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: good luck adding onto it, though.  Learning lua and doing anything useful with it blows
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As I said, it works with Wine. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I want a plugin that will do my dishes
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A number of people use it on Mac, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that coded the client, and the guy that writes that aard package, BOTh use Macs
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it runs natively only in windows.  You install an emulator to have it work on a mac.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: let me go get a box.....red or white? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that being said, type "tags"...make sure the last line says "On", and some of the other ones say YES
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but Mudlet is mostly a dead non-starter client that never caught on
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're the ONLY one using it online right now
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: oh my god you're an angel
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: see that wasn't hard :P 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nothing exists after zmud 4.62
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my client is over 20 years old and has 10 more people using it ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: everything else is mere speculation
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I used tintin++ over mudlet
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: just what we need: abe thinking he's an angel.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: grin
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Shaelynne, you can type 'clients' to see how many people are using what clients.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: this is fascinating 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cool, i'm a client ethnic minority
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i come from a mud with 10 people. veryone uses Zmud except the mac users...meaning me 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: With that said, you'd have more luck with MUSH questions than anything else, considering 193 players are using Aard's MUSH client.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: must be a slow day
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and lots of us who don't use MUSH have a really good grasp of its intricacies because MUSH stuff comes up a lot given its popularity
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: look at me...one mudlet user, go me!
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Blowtorch-Aard, here.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Blowtorch - via android right? 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Cmud represent!
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: with proxymud how can i get the mapper to display one speedwalk? i dont want it on permanent, just for one
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by "proxymud", are you referring to duckbat's? and which version?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I still prefer cmud over mush.  I'll even go so far as to say if Win8 breaks CMud I'm leaving mudding for good rather than use mush.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: yes duckbats
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: how do i get version?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: time to go do IRL stuff, unfortunately....
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Why, Hans?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's dedication for you, but why for the love of Jehovah and all of his witnesses would you ever go to WIn8?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne wave
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Shaelynne waves happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: wait till Win9
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: there we go, emotes in convo, that's different 
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: isn't that the OS equivalent of wantonly sticking your head in a blender?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: okay thanks everyone, bye
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: proxymud mapper version 15, core version 7
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why?  Try putting together a miniwindow.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've put some together, and I don't even use mushclient :P
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: emacs!
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hey I see there are currently 4 other players with Mudlet....can one of you please help me out
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: anyone familiar with Lzo and python?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: just downloaded Lzo-2.06 and can't get python to recognize lzo as a module, i'm a complete python noob any help is greatly appreciated, 1tp if you can help me get it running
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: check you paths.  Python has to know where it is
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: how? all i can find is the command 'python setup.py install' while in the dir
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Environment variables. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: i used mingw to build it and the msgs seemed to be successful and lzotest runs but python says no lzo module when i call it from a script
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: are you compiling in Linux?  Most distros have packages for python-lzo
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: no windows used MinGW32-gcc to compile it
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: then check the READMEs.  You will most likely have to add something to your environment variables or path
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: let me look for my logs will post on pastebin but already added c:\python27\bin c:\python27\tools\scripts and c:\mingw\bin to PATH
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: https://bitbucket.org/james_taylor/python-lzo-static/src/63987d89fd1b/lzo-2.03/B/00README.TXT
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: can't find the log i made and that link is the readme that comes with the module and what i used to build Lzo
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nissassa Ssadab Tech: ok found my log file I apparently moved it so i could find it easier http://pastebin.com/BKwn57K5
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: any other independent consultants out there?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: what string would i search for at duckbat's site to get a list of all items from masquerade island ?
T3/r7/2012-10-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to look up the number for the masq area, then you do +item &area=number, if I recall.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagion Tech: I'm trying to make a vshoot alias like in the 'help volley' file but it ends up making an alias of 'volley' then executing the shoots
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: help alias?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagion Tech: No helpful info there sadly. I tried.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're using MUSH, you'd do: alias vshoot volley;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot;;shoot
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Note the double semi-colons.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagion Tech: maybe it is the app on my iphone I am using. let me try it on my computer's terminal.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dagion Tech: okay, it was the app. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know how many weather messages there are? I want to GAG all but the moons
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Just gag them as they come up.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: have been... still growing :P
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: was looking for patterns on: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Main/MudMessages
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i have this somewhere, one sec
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can definately lower the list i have with regex... just aint looking like an end in sight :P
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good thing you can put it into a stringlist and trigger off that rather than having 1000 triggers.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do the same thing for my mob subs. They're all in database variable format, so I only have one trigger for each area.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Etzli is a pro botter
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm slowly converting them over to Lua to get rid of the 250+ variables in CMUD.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Triggers: 492 Aliases: 453 Variables: 457 Paths: 0 Macros: 42 Class Folders: 576 Mapped Zones:  282 with 30199 rooms.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 250? wow i have 5
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im still looking for less of resource hog to mob subs
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ozzy: One trigger per area works.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: areas like empy i'm noticing a definate lag between {roomchars}
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod... i have all in one now... just bigger areas im noticing it
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah, yeah.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ozzy would be t9 if he didn't fart around with scripts so much :P
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, he and I both. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i'd prlly be at 1mil qp too... can't count the number of times i forget to quest casue scrpting :P
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ozzy.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Too busy writing your bot to do quests?  That's sad.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i even wrote a quest nag script :P haha
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my "bot" is 100% legal, Lasher can VNC in himself if he ever questions it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, the day Lasher takes you up on that, "Hrm, for some reason, I'm having trouble allowing connections. Hold on, let me fix that."
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope... it's up all the time
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Etzli has his contingency plans perfected, that shifty cheater.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Starling.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Never make a deal with the devil you can't win.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's listed
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there any point in getting multi-channel music if you're just gonna downsample them to stereo, anyway?  Like, if you can choose between a 5.1 mix and a redbook, is there any point in getting the 5.1 mix if you're just gonna downsample it to stereo for your Mp3-player?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Or will the downsampling lose pretty much any "perks" that the 5.1 version would have?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: No point in using 5.1 in that case
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is there a command for mapper(mush) to show you a list of rooms in an area?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, that's not a function of finding your way to a room ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper area (room)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: santher, can you leave off (room)?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what he's looking for..."list all rooms in area", not "limit my search to area"
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy enough query to do, but while it requires the mapper's database, it is not within the scope of what the mapper is trying to accomplish
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never hurts to post it as a suggestion on fiendish's aardmush site tho :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it isn't a terribly necessary function, but if you wish to mapper goto within an area and can't remember the names
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: What algorithm does the mapper use to search for a room?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: A-star?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: custom
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for anyone who would understand the response to that question, the best answer is "Use the Source, Luke"
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Ontuct, until then use sqlite for instance: sqlite3 _Aardwolf.db "select name from rooms where area like '<area>'"
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: fulltext substring search
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: that will list the names in the area you write.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: roomnames
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: unless you meant "to search for A PATH to a room"
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: I don't mean roomnames sorry, I meant the paths.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I'll look into SQlite... and maybe make a copy of the db file rather then have to rexplore it all out lol
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you need to reexplore?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if I do something stupid and corrupt the file. lol
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: a query like that will not alter the db
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: if you're worried make a copy and use the copy :)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: which is what I said :p
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: I don't know how Lua works and I can't find the source for the t.findpath function. Help, anyone?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything is textfiles...easy enough to search :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: Got it, thanks!
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: it's not in the .xml file itself, most of the mapper is in aardmapper.lua
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Do you have to register an IP for it to work ?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for what to work?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Web Server
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And the winner for most vague question goes to... Justa.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never have to register an IP
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but if you want people to actually FIND you, then they'll need a way to do so
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun rushes in with a late entry:  So tell me again what that thing does?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: i'm trying The public IP Adresss nothings happening.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for you, I'd suggest just using google sites or something
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I suggest Geocities.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're behind a NAT router, the router would need to be set to send web traffic to the server
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: let me guess - you're trying to run one on your home computer?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Didn't Geocities close?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Jhav.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My point exactly, Jhav. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: SMArtPhone
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: hahaohwow.jpg
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're running a website from your phone...
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: you are running a web server out of your phone?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: oh good times
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: yes.. I'm trying to do thay
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: step away from the Intarwebs slowly...
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I wonder how much Rand it would take to even upkeep a server on your phone. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or even try, rather.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Haha I can't I'm A Future Network  Engineer
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure you are
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just go to www.webs.com or google.com/sites, really
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're a future something, alright... just won't go into detail what.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: about 500 rand a month max
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: $58 a month, heh.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: If you say so
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heck, you can sign up for amazon services free for a year and run full virtual servers and websites from there
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He can't, Abelinc. He's a future network engineer, haven't you heard?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: network engineers do not run web servers
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we don't?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the server is not the network
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Lol I'm trying to revolutionise. IF it comes to using Amazon Or Another Host I'll have to do that. By the Time I'm done coding I think I'll know for sure what wwill work.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I guess I'll tell all my friends
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: well, I guess they can, but not if they are at an ISP
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr: bull :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: network engineers run networks
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: among other things
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure, at small companies
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I've never had such a simple title
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and at fortune 500 companies
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: anyone want to help me do my business taxes
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: I think I'm going to Code For the rest of my life screw builing networks
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not if they are ISPs, abe
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.quicken.com, you're welcome :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr...again, BULL.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: is there an accountiant on
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of network engineers, even at large companies and ISPs, also run web servers as part of their job
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Is there a good salary at coding Sites ?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: web dev is just another part of my job here
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do all? heck no. Does the title preclude it from happening? hell no.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: yea aws ec2 micro instance = good small server
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Fisban.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe so, Abe, but it's not common. 
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: free for a year
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: more common than you believe, ranrr
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: photon vps
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I don't have to believe, I know.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: knowing incorrect data isn't really knowing
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right back at you.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: if you don't believe then faeries will die
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Anyways Back to coding
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a very large majority of network engineers at ISPs will have some form of mrtg/nagios/cacti/etc setup which they maintain, which involves...you guessed it, implementing a webserver :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: <sarcasm> today is Crystal Reports and SQL day, YAY! </sarcasm>
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Today is SQL today, tomorrow is the sequel? ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am re-iterating, small.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're still reiterating incorrectly :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it looks like I may be getting into Lua afterall.  My brother is an indie game developer and wants to implement it
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Large ISPs don't run those types of systems and also have dedicated NOC personell for them.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is lua.org the best source for lua training or should I look elsewhere?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: By "them", I mean network management systems.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, I guess I should tell my tier 1 ISPs to stop giving me access to their graphs since they don't run those types of systems
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I know some tier 9 ISPs... what now!
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, for ISPs, lower number is bigger ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think that was the joke, abe
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I think we should define "web servers" for the sake of this chan.  Are we talking full commercial websites or any port 80 Apache box publishing pages?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daiku: lua.org is good for general lua stuff, but look at mushclient.com and existing plugins for info on mush-specific lua
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I mean commercial web server. Those are not run by network engineers. Sure, network engineers may have some web based tools, but that's a different thing.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the discussion of web server started with some guy trying to run a port 80 listener on his phone...
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, your tier-1 ISP has dedicated personell to run their reporting tools to customers, even if they are based on open source tools like rrdtool.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so your entire statements were based on your own very-closed definition of the word rather than real life
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, it was based on practical real life experience.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was based on more blustery bull, as usual
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The end.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you think it is, that's up to you. Enough said.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: light on experience, long on commentary
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And, my point was, that if you want to be a network engineer, learn to build networks instead of web servers.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you want to be a network engineer and think that you won't touch webservers, get your head out of your backside...you'll need knowledge of both technologies :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir raises an eyebrow at you.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think you're confusing network engineers and sysadmins
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope dag
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: one could be both, of course, but still
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: in my position, I have to do it all.  
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Abe, you are being rude and insulting. Since you are not a network engineer, don't assume you know how and ISP works.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm not? hmm, interesting.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not at an ISP, at least.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess I'll turn in my Cisco certs then
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, you should.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm definitely not at an ISP, no argument there
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've worked very closely with said ISPs, however
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ISP networks are very different from other corporate networks.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yep, they are
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the redundancy is rediculous
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And nowadays, many ISPs don't even have network engineers, they are provided by the manufacturers of equipment.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Which in turn run the network to guarantee 99.999% uptime.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I agree.  AT&T doesn't fix anything.  They always call someone else  lol
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wonder how you can tell that you're getting 5 9s uptime
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I get paid for downtime
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: corporately.  at home, they could care less
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, it comes down to definition of availability, for which there are standards both in ITU-T and 
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and metro ethernet
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: alliance
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And there are tools to monitor this
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: really? how would I access said tools?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is not ping enough for you?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc is learning so much
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You wouldn't, typically, although some ISPs have availability measurement data available for their customers.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But the technology for that is too new for that to be a typical case.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wait, what? you can't measure downtime any more?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I wouldn't? hmm, I guess I've been doing it wrong
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I said typically. You may have such tools, but most people don't, even network engineers.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trachx: ping is good for instantaneous checking, but you'd need a tool that is tracking ping over time to look for outages, such as those which would send text messages to the network guys when something goes down
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow. just wow.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ping is useless, since it's not real data traffic and sometimes ICMP is throttled.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're ever buying a commercial service in which you don't, you went with the wrong provider
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Look at things like TWAMP or Y.1731 instead.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I always test my Internet connectivity by pinging www.microsoft.com
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Microsoft blackholes all pings because they were always DDoS'd)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: speaking of isps and such, is there a quick, easy way to tell (or at least guess) if my losing connection is due to my isp or my router, without having to physically plug the cable into my computer?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: (I'm lazy, see...)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: Buy a new router and see if it stop dumping.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: stops*
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... any method that doesn't involve me standing up?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use traceroute, mtr, wireshark
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: is tracert usable to see during a lost connection to see if the problem is at the ISP or the site or the router?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: closest thing would be testing whether you can still get to the router's internal IP to see if the entire router shut down
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: Or have your ISP come out and do it all for you. Though you may have to pay for that service.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most residential routers don't give you enough information to get more specific than that
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, yeah, I can always connect to my router
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but sometimes it just stops sending me anywhere for a couple of minutes.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does rebooting the router bring it back up?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or does it come back on its own?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: rebooting the router usually "fixes" it. Except that the time it takes to reboot is longer than the typical time I lose connection for.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could also check whether there are mtu problems with ping
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it usually comes back on its own in 1-2min at most
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: possible packet table overflow
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: pretty weird
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try pinging your router's gateway when it's down
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... packet table, router gateway... bunch of terms I need to google. heh
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: can someone please answer my question about the tracert?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dunte: if you're tracerouting to an IP, then it will attempt to get as far as it can
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it will be rather called NAT table, but it means if you start to many connection in short time, router will start dropping some of them
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're tracerouting to a name, it would need to be able to resolve the name first
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then packect expires, and router is "alive" again
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: so it oughta show where the connection stops and so i can figure out where the connection problem is?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, torrents can bring down cheap routers easily like that
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ranrr was correct in his mention of the limitations of ping/traceroute imcp...they're only as good as your baseline knowledge of what they should say...you'll want to traceroute all the way to an endpoint when the network is looking good
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not unusual for a traceroute to have some dead spots where responses are turned off on some devices
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: so best thing to do is tracert google with a good connection, print screan. and later when i have trouble to tracert google again and see where the connection now fades/ends?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: no, routing can choose other route than previously
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll want to get multiple baselines to cover trachx's caveat, but that's the basics of it...other than load balancing, stable routing shouldn't normally change very much
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: usually your connection is "guaranteed" to the first router of your ISP or sometimes to the last router in your ISP network
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: when using the mapper can you move down and up using the mouse?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try clicking on the arrow to see
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, if you cannot reach some website then: if you cannot ping your router then problem is with router, if you cannot ping gateway then problem is either with gateway or router, if you cannot ping website then problem is either with website or one of routers between you and website (there can be many of them) 
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if clicking on the corner arrows doesn't work, then it's likely no
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: hmm, thank you.......
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: using tracert can help diagnose some problems - at least you have chance to see when traceroute ends and sometimes you can observe loops between routers
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nod, aard's ISP has had some loops within their dallas datacenter a few times
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sometimes you can use wireshark to diagnose some problems - just send packets and observe whether they come back - sometimes you can see ICMP administratively prohibited, and sometimes you will see that SYN ACK sequence works, if so then probably problem is with final (web)server
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: ok thanks. Also can anyone tell me a bit about kerberos in windows server 2008?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: single sign on stuff, hard to setup right
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: that's the one that works with the ticket right?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, though with windows sever you would rather want to use domains not kerberos (unless mixed env unix/win)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: mixed
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you can use both at the same time, but as I said - kerberos is hard to get right
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: ok just checking thanks. Just wanted to get your oppinions on it, setting it up tonight (i'm a qualified systems administrator)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: anyone using mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: i am
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lots of people are, but they can't help you if you don't ask your question...
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm.. so tracert (when my connection is up) gives me my router's address, then something else, then something that looks like the sort of ip address I usually get assigned (so I guess it's my isp). I guess I'll just wait for my connection to go down again. Semes to happen more often at night, for some reason... could be imagining it though.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: Thank you - i'm wondering if i can increase the width of my play screen
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: it's currently kinda small..
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: just click on the bottom right corner and drag
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: with all the side windows. and even if i enlarge the screen, t's still giving lines that are of a certain length only
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: but the length doesnt increase and it's till the same. the output is the same length
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, well, the mud generally wraps lines around 80 characters
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hamnaren Halth nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's not a client thing, not much you can do about it
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: another quick question - how do i copy and paste?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: sorry, i just came back after 5 years and was previously using zmud
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the same way as in any other program :P
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: double click and drag
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: highlight and ctrl+c, or right click -> copy
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: i cant seem to copy and paste?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: i cant, it doesnt paste
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: another question about scripting - I'm trying to replace something within a line for a trigger - what's the symbol i use? (%1) ?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: \1 with regex
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dunte Tech: is there a input for mush that has the same function as ctrl+c in cmd?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: Im having an issue with my mushclient. I've no idea what happened - I'm currently viewing my entire INV list but not in breaks
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: anything i did or could check to make it back to its old state?
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you mean what i think you do, help paging
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: awesome, tyvm!
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: is there a way to make winkle's spellup forget a spell? i added it to aard forgetspell list, but it's not listening to me and keeps casting it
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: noauto <s#> works afaik
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to his site and click on the spellup plugin, it tells you commands to use in it
T3/r7/2012-10-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are all items that reset on mobs or in a room subject to random levels or is that a separate setting?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: I've accidentally full screen my mushclient and i cant undo it, anyone knows any hot keyes?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Ctrl-Alt-F
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there a way to find/purge exit level locks for the mapper?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ok, am now running cmud as my main client... using sqlite for databses.. got a rudimentary "find" set up... anyone know of some find & put scripts i could look at to learn from?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: i use tintin
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: so no idea 
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like tt, but couldn't handle it's mapper
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: tt has a mapper?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: i had no idea
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: not on its own
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: but players have been addons
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: yeah, i'm ok with that
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: @ozzy: why not use aard mushclient? :p
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: i've got my multiple windows, that's all i ask
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause he's stuck in zscript land :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: linux here =]
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: 4 x urxvt and tt++, emacs for notes
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Demosthenex Mushclient runs beautifully in WINE, that is how Fiendish (the main developer of the Aard version) runs it :p
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: bah, i won't use wine.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: all my apps are text only
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: excepting firefox
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: email, mp3, irc, IM...
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But if you are wanting to use TT, I think Cheezburger and Ixle both have links in their profile to get you started.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Your loss :)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Riddim reminds me of one of the Mac fanboys. "Oh, you're using THAT client? Pfft, you should use MUSH."
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not his loss if he's comfortable with that client.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: http://demosthenes.org/tmp/screenshot.png
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ozzy's comfortable with z/CMUD. Just like I am. Some people are comfortable with tt+. :D
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher forces a gag into Book of Etzli's mouth.  Ahhh, blessed quiet.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: now if i could just get an administrative assistant to do my expense reports
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli is a virtual assistant and does things like that all the time.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: yeah?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm just having to force myself to stay awake for another 45 minutes, though. :(
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have to call Party Shop in Peterborough, UK to ask them the price for one of their costume hires.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But they don't open until 9am.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli works for Fancy Hands. :D
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: i'll fly over the uk this weekend on my way to sweden
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nice.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I should just pay someone a couple tps to call and get the information I need for me. *yawn*
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: not sure if i need a virtual assist or a real local one
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yesterday, I generated an expense report for someone. Quite a daunting task as they had 42 pages in a pdf file to go through.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: my issue is i have to bill my clients for expenses
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: aaaand lesse, i'm sitting on about $18k of them atm that need to be billed
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fun stuff.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: its the weekly reports, tying in receipts, and re-entering them into other systems that sucks
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sounds like you need a local one, for sure. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nice... #CALL %pref(ColorSyntax,0) ... wanted that foreven in zmud :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: forever even
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here that knows sql ?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Probably lots of people :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: not more than anyone else, but I know some :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: do you know it
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: alright
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i know his mum
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have statement, that lists some columns
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then one is SUM(col1 + col2 + col3) AS TOTALS
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: that's the proper way to sum it right ?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: basically it's extra column, that has the sum of a few columns on the same row
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you would need to group by all the other columns for that to work.. SUM does an aggregation, not just an addition
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what's a good way to do it
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you can just do col1+col2+col3 if you want them added up (assuming they're all numbers :) )
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wait, so you want 1 single value as the summation of all 3 columns?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye it's eq stats
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: just want the sum for each
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Or you want 1 row, with the values of cols 1|2|3 ?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: each row is one piece
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So 3 values total?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: each row has several columns for stats
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I want another added, called Totals
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno does it make sense? I think Mye got it
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: the sum function will operate on multiple rows, trez
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: sounds like you want the sum for a single row, so just use +
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so it'd be just str+dex as totals
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: correct
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh and before I forget
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if the select statement adds a 14th column
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then  DatabaseColumnValue(db, 14) will show its value
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: for each loop right ?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: that i don't know.. i know sql but not the lua/mush interface
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: presumably yes.. if the second argument is the ordinal position of the selected value
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: other platforms i've used work that way
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: still doesn't work but I dunno if the column doesn't get mathed correctly
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or just my lua table gets filled with null
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try 13 instead of 14? not sure if it starts at 0 or 1
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: rest work fine, 13 is last
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe easier way to do it
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: would be to just add manually one extra column
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and it sums the rest
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: are the columns you're summing 0 or is one (or more) null?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some are 0
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: are any null? might need to turn nulls into 0
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: says 0 on my viewer
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: but on edit, default value is just blank
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm gonna set to 0
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hmm.. can you try coalesce(str,0)+coalesce(dex,0) as totals
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: okay
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it has to have brackets right ?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: (coalesce(str,0)+coalesce(dex,0))
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: sure (shouldn't matter but better safe than sorry)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: some platforms propagate nulls, so null + anything = null
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: still nul, maybe I just use existing field as totals and check
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: apparently it changed all my 0 values to 1 :)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is wierd, in cmud(latest)... i type: gt %char(123)%char(125)%char(123)  and see: (Group) Ozzy: '{{'  expecting to see: (Group) Ozzy: '{}{'
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone have a clue what might be off?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and:  gt %char(125)   does: Turning OFF the gtell channel.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Try turning on echocommands
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it is
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So what is being sent to the mud?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Question: is cmud running on ASCII, or MXP?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i dont see a } when using %char(125)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I do.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.... lemme chack
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yep. works fine for me.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: term type is cmud, boxes unckecked on emulation page are: MrTerm, Pueblo, ATCP, Strict telnet, and Display control codes
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: char 125 is the only one giving issues.. wierd
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Looks like MXP supports UTF-8? wouldn't have the foggiest as to how cmud implements it, but there could be a conflict.  Or, more likely you just have a rogue trigger.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. good luck finding  trigger for } :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Turn all triggers off, test output
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all off... Turning OFF the gtell channel.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: on gt %char(125)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: gt %char(123) sends { to gt
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Now - was the %char(#) a specific trigger you now need to turn back on?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: alias, rather
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use %char() for lots of things... like @ or ~ or }
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for most shows/channel output scripts
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I mean # as a number, not the # symbol
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it is a trigger... but it does a #SHOW...
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: {goto pa;run d to Entrance to a Forest in Battlefields of Adaldar from Ozzy's Manor in Aardwolf Estates 2000
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should be } at the end
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: to match the { at start
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so is there a bug in the trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if i change to say.. 123...
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: {goto pa;run d to Entrance to a Forest in Battlefields of Adaldar from Ozzy's Manor in Aardwolf Estates 2000{
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's there... but ewrong %char :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I'm not talking about where you call %char, I mean the code for %char itself - is it something you have loaded, or inbuilt to cmud without access?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint following
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: %char() is built-in
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all reasonable clients have a form of ascii translation function
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: This problem a new development? If it's inbuilt and others have no issue I'd probably go for reinstall
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SHOW %ascii(}) shows 125 .... #SHOW %char(125) shows }
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ALL problems are new... 3rd day trying cmud again
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Triggers: 1959 Aliases: 443 Variables: 654 Paths: 0 Macros: 50 Class Folders: 936 Mapped Zones: 291 with 31982 rooms. Menus: 4 Tabwords: 102 Status Windows: 7 Directions: 10 Buttons: 15
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: uhh.. no on the re-install :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can't export/import?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that was a nightmare
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: almost ALL roomscripts got screwed up
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all perl/vb got "formatted"
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So how confident are you you haven't broken the %char function along the way? :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher wonders when oxxy will finally ditch cmud and start making scripts for mush :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err ozzy
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in a few years when i learn Lua from cmud :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: took me year to start using perl/vb in zmud
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: years*
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just say no to zscripts! :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or when the kid does it :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: FOr what it's worth, if you know one language Lua shouldn't take too long.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea.. that's more likely Abe :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you know 1 scripting language, Lua is a weekender
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "knowing" lua is a weekender...recreating 15 years of zscripts in it is not
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im a VERY slow learner Vakieh
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: not true vakieh..its eassier but not that easy :)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Who would love the oppourtunity to redo scripts with all they've learned along the way ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea... it was hard enough fixing everything from zmud to cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: I'm inclinded to think it's a pretty fast learn.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and they are VERY similar
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I did that not to long back Mendal :)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, fast learn, not fast reimplement
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: redoing scripts isn't as fun as it sounds... bad enough recreating lua scripts :P
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well of course not
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hard part about scripts is the matches - logic should be a cinch
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if only
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: add to it i aint even sure how i wrote some of my very old stuff :P would have to read code for hours to remeber how they work
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hard part about scripts is the tedium
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I tend to be a little biased there as my every waking minute is spent in one form of code or another, however :\
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Ugh.. always bad to go back to code you haven't touched for a while.  Especially if you have bad writing etiquette
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Finally getting into OpenGL/Direct3D atm, so now I get to look at pretty pictures while I do it :D
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i cant even #SHOW %char(125) with all trigs off via #IG
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can do it with: gt~}
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can do it with: gt ~}
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is there an easy way to tell what spawned a specific system process?  this is windows XP.. issue is i have three winlogon processes.. the third of which keeps dieing and respawning (different pid every few seconds) -- i was able to suspend it to stop the respawn but want to know what the offending service is so i can address the source (there should be at most 2 winlogons -- one for interactive and one for my RDP session).. process explorer only puts it under the system\smss.exe tree, which isn't very helpful (unless it really is WinXP and not an app)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: run hijack and see what's running.  I'm a firm believer in MalwareBytes
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: will do .. think i have malwarebytes already but will run a scan in case
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: Anyone know anything about TrueCrypt, or cloning a drive that is encrypted with it.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: cloning?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: yes, with  Ghost/Acronis
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: if those tools do byte copy, the result will work
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: I cloned an encrypted drive, then using the clients restore disk, I restored the bootloader for TrueCrypt and it's not detecting any windows partitions, but If I use the BootCD to boot around the truecrypt Bootloader, it works.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: I tried decrypting the drive and it's still not doing anything.. Though it's letting me decrypt it again. So i'm not sure if it ever finished decrypting.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: I booted to a Windows disk to try and repair the MBR/BCD and it wouldn't even detect a windows Installation.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: does TrueCrypt use the hdrive serial number as part of the encrypt key -- that 'd ensure no cloning
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: but that also screws the legitimate client if the hdrive breaks down, unless there is an override to use the old hdrive serial number instead of the cloned hdrive number (if part of the encryption/decryption process)
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cmud 3.34, any reason why this code example from the help locks up cmud? http://pastebin.com/y5gzbxZz
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: How many GHZ in an ASUS Transformer Tablet, anyone know?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: probably 1.5
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: It's 1.0
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rhavage Tech: Hoping somebody can help me with a microsoft word issue that is making me insane.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pieu Tech: What is it
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: if i play aard (mush client)from a portable harddrive (not sure i can even do this ><). Am i going to have any issues when I switch from WinXP to Win 7 please?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, it'll work fine
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I dont. It works fime
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: thanks guys 
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Speaking of Miscrosoft Word, in Word 2003, does anyone know off the top of their head to made Paste default to "paste unformatted text?"
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Anyone know if a MUSH timer will still work properly if the "minutes" attribute is set over 59 instead of setting the "hours" attribute as well?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why wouldn't it?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Because the hours attribute exists and might be hardcoded to disallow minutes higher than 59.  I.E.  Need to put hours=1 minutes=30 instead of just minutes=90
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: would seem rather silly to allow you to create a timer with more than 59 minutes only to disallow it from executing.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ..I'm not sure you're getting the point.  Instead of not executing, it could just simply throw an error if scripted to over 59 minutes.  I'm trying to save myself some debugging here.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: then just use the hours attribute and sidestep the entire issue.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: You didn't answer my question at all.  Thank you for the reply anyways.  Anyone else?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Llavara Tech: does anyone have a good button set for blowtorch that I might get a copy of?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: is there a mush client for android?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: yup, Blowtorch
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: He said "mush client"
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: that's the closest you'll get to a "mush" client.
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ah ok, thanks :) is there an emulator so that i can run mush in android?
T3/r7/2012-10-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: googled "how to run windows application in android" it seems nobody has yet made an emulator. somebody installed windows xp on his android tablet though, it's slow and a battery killer apparently. just thought some of you would want to know... :)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone know usualy keyboard shortcut for removing that overtype mode where it writes over stuff in text programs
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: like insert?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ooooh, nice, thanks!
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I keep toggling it by accident and have to close and reopen document
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: yeah, that confused and angered me once.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I'm not sure what the original use is, but I don't really see one for it.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nods, saves you deleting a bunch of text maybe
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: works with vim
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: any public cmud script for aardwolf out there?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: scripts*
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: somehow turned off the gui for search&destroy... how do i get that window back
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: spybot?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: ya i have that, does it kill it?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: It's the same thing im fairly sure.. Though its a bit of a resource hog.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: erm searchanddestroy the winkleplugin
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pthyro chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: is what i meant, i lost the window/gui for the winkle plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: My apologies, thought you meant Spybot.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: so... anyone know how to make the snd gui show back up?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Or if your question was meant to be intuitionistic, ie. requiring evidence to prove the existential quantifier:
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I know.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Mmm.. you're supposed to ask the question "How to make the snd gui show back up", aren't you?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: In any case, the answer to the second, unasked question is "xset reset gui"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: thank you so very much =)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's the better way to run mush on a mac wine or win 7 vm?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: should run pretty well under wine
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, wine is much more lightweight than an entire windows OS
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i already have a vm setup just wondering if i should get wine :)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're running the VM normally anyway, then go ahead and run MUSH under it
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's "better" in terms of compatibility to run under a full Windows VM, it's just not better for performance with the VM overhead
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: if not, wine is the better choice as far as memory overhead and disk space
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Laughing Lacrimosa nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: Do I get dc''ed fIf my user generates a lot of output from the MUD?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: if*
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can.  Particularly if you try to look at the entire WHO LIST or the entire list of posts in a really busy forum like General or Ideas.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yakov rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: It was the WHO list for me
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you may also be dc'd if you had a runaway script spamming the game.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: using a client that supports mccp will let you see larger lists
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: Paging also solves this, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: Alright, thanks!
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not entirely sure what other anti-spam functionality is built into Aard to deal with player-driven spam rather than output-driven spam.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: gag ?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: ignore
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's not so much anti-spam functionality as buffers getting filled
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yakov snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: right, some games do limit repeatability, though, so like after 10 of the same commands the game goes "Spam! Byebye, dude!" and deliberately cuts the connection.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard coded that out...it existed in v1/v2
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now it just exists for channels
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: would make note reading a problem
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I still throw an "ac" in between every 18 command or so
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: many clients built in similar functionality to pre-empt the disconnection.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, mush has a setting for it
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands, the spam prevention box of settings
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how do I edit the keypad mappings in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you just create macros.  You can create as many macros for each key as you like, so some organizational management may be needed to ensure the right macros are enabled at the right times.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there are a couple macro-related options in Preferences, but beyond that there are certain keys you cannot macro on at all.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: one can probably set up said macros, but those won't ever do anything.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, because I noticed that the keypad directions are already setup be default in cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, if you have something better you can just remove the English Keypad package (or just leave it and use #T- on the classes in that package).
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh, anyone who got the 16GB Nexus 7 tablet pretty much got ripped off.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Staples has the 32GB Nexus 7 tablet for less than the 16GB tablet.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they just realese a better one?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: haha
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Specifically, Staples has the 32GB Nexus 7 (NEXUS7ASUS1B32) listed at $248.37, the 16GB Nexus 7 (NEXUS7ASUS1B16) at $251.49, and the 8GB Nexus 7 (NEXUS7ASUS1B08) at $200.99. What that likely indicates is that Google is positioning the 32GB model to replace the 16GB version, as previously rumored.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone using a mob db in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I am, but "use" is way too strong a term.  Almost nothing in it at the moment.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... which are you using? built-in, sqlite, db var?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sqlite.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i cant get sqlite to do anything but lock up cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: built-in is just buggy as all hell and obsolete, and dbvars are just far too inadequate for items or mobs.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sqlite hangs at: #WHILE (!@row.Eof())
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for now i just imported main info of mobs into a db var
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: is it bad that when I see dbVar I think "Database of genomic structural variation"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #CALL ow.next at the end of your while loop.  Basically it's not autoincrementing so you're always stuck at the first record.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #CALL @row.next at the end of your while loop.  Basically it's not autoincrementing so you're always stuck at the first record.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: has #CALL @row.Next
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: using an examle Zugg gave
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have data in your database?  Perhaps it's an issue that only crops up when results (@row) are null.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... using: http://pastebin.com/eDpZgzNG
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I use the while example all the time, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it uses sessions.db
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and that hsould have 2 sessions in it
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: wait you're getting an end of line error right?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i get nothing... 25% cpu usage and frozen
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I thought he was just hanging?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: have to kill cmud and restart if i run that example as a test alias
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what version are you on?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 3.34 pro
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: perhaps remove the () from eof?  I don't see how that would matter, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lemme try
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: interesting, it hangs for me too... i'm sure it worked in the past though...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: put that from pastebin into "testdb" alias... ran it with removed () ... screen scrolls away(blank), cmud hangs
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try exploring the sessions.db file.  also explore the row variable, to make sure the proper information is there.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: another thing to try is go to multiline format, rather than using the same-line format.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: row var? it shows: <COMObject>
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to call the item() property to see the data.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you can pinpoint where the data's getting "lost", you'll know where to look for your error.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SHOW @row.Item("Title") = nada
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: using sqlite manager plugin for firefox.. sessions.db does have 2 sessions
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: "is go to multiline format" <--- hrm?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sameline format = command;command, multiline format is where different commands are on different lines (with indentation for stuff inside loops and conditional blocks)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh :P yea
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SQLDB aardmob.db;row = %sql(aardmob, "SELECT * FROM mob");#LOOP 10 {#SHOW  @row.Item("mob_name");#CALL @row.Next};#SQLCLOSE sessions
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that shows 1st 10 mob names
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: changing from LOOP 10 to WHILE (!@row.Eof) = hang
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it doesn't hang for me in my own while, though...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hope this aint some wierd XP bug :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nah, i'm using win 7 and it doesn't work for me either
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are we all using the same sqlite version?  Not sure how to check, but far as I know it's whatever version installs with cmud 3.34 pro.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm... i have an sqlite.dll and an sqlite3.dll in my cmud folder
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sqlite3.dll Size: 528 KB (541,683 bytes) Size on Disk: 532 KB (544,768 bytes)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, isn't SQlite 1-based rather than 0-based?  #loop 10 starts from 0.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, same size as mine
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dunno.. #LOOP works.. EOF does not
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sqlite.dll Size: 208 KB (213,504 bytes)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nother unrelated wierd thing i noticed is: #SHOW %ascii(~}) | %char(125) |   --->  125 |  |
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: interesting, I guess it doesn't matter but your size on disk values are slightly different than mine.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if i add a command line to ANY child window... works as expected
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in the child window
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: different drives
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: block sizes and such
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i really don't wanna hassle with re-installing to fix not being able to send %char(125) :P }}
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: perhaps it's a corruption issue.  Corruption can cause whole commands to work differently than expected or even as described.  For example, at one point (early in a beta period) I fully lost #IF.  It just always evaluated to false even though the condition clearly evaluated true.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: why are you sending %char(125) anyway? why not just use "}" ?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is a "fresh" install... only imported and fixed the hundreds of zmud script errors
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, is this cmud we're talking about?  Yeah, it's prone to stupid corruption issues (how????? I have no idea) when it crashes.  Once it's screwed the only thing to do is export your scripts and reinstall.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that situation went all the way to a zuggsoft.come bug report on the forums and other users verified it happening, but then Zugg responded with something along the lines that it wasn't even coded to work that way.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in some places... i was doing stuff like ~@@theme_color1 ... cmud didnt like that... so i swithced to using %char for all
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Also, don't ever "upgrade", if a new version comes out just uninstall and then install the new version as a fresh installation.  Upgrading seems to mess stuff up more often than not.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you want literals, just put them in quotes
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, wait.  Cmud.  There won't be any new versions.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you import from ZMud?  If your zmud stuff was corrupted, that would've been imported as well.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: escaping with tildes is more of a zmud thing
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the %char thing works well for aliases creating triggers...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you know that creation/deletion is slower in CMud, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just that %char(125) will not show... "gt %char(125)"  will turn off gtalk
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and it's only 125?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only.. nod
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: strange :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that might be a parsing issue.  Does it still not show if you change the quote character to something else?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #LOOP 255 {#SHOW {|%char(%i}|} shows all printble but that one
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it works is ran in like my chat capture window
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if*
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: add command line, run that.. is shows
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: save var and show var?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: special character preferences are specific to the window, not global.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://i.imgur.com/dHqif.png
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i ran #SHOW %char(125) in both many times... top "All" window and main
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hmm, maybe check your style preferences?  Perhaps the message option that controls #SHOW happens to be set to black on black, and the code just happens to actually be working just fine?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can #SHOW %char(123) ---> {
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone good at "finding stuff"?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I found my car keys this morning
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Can I use #VAR in Blowtorch?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Or is there another way to set (and get) variables?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: when you add a portal using the mapper, it asks for a portal level, does this take into account your tier?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't account for it yourself
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so I should just put the portal level?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Ok cool, thanks =)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: EXITS, on the other hand, do not account for tier, as those are a "this is dangerous" thing, and not a "can I wear this" thing
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually I lied...both portals and exit level locks account for tier
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli tsks at you!!  What did you do wrong?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: anyone know why cmud is suddenly not recognizing }} and my triggers are giving me errors until i fix it to } }. client crashed and now it's wanting spaces.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: is there some feature somewhere that got "flipped" off?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what kind of errors?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: triggers won't compile
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: giving me a syntax error
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that means you're missing one in your code
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you don't get syntax errors any other way, Velian.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: the trigger worked 100% fine before with "}}" now it requires a space between them "} }"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i put space it works.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the syntax error doesn't have to be related to } or the space. ;P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ok even more annoying... seems if i put space, save, delete space, save, it works... heh
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: then explain why i add the space and it works.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i'm not saying the triggers aren't working. they work when i add the space.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: so obviously it was related to the } and space...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you use #SWITCH's multiple-line syntax?  That one's pretty picky about formatting.  I'd have to see the code to point out other things, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but my point was that other things than what you're looking at could be the cause, even to the point that adding spaces and other stuff could change the compile behavior.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: over 100 triggers broke on that crash. well triggers/alias/macros/etc
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: and adding space in each one fixes it.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: yeah i use those, but it broke all sorts of ones. if's, switches, loops
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: is there anyway to scan all settings in cmud to see which ones have 'errors' in them?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's no filter that will limit to that metric, no.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you mean syntax errors, that is.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: syntax/compiler errors, yep
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wheee... #CALL @sql.First
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no more freezing
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: was that what fixed it?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: interesting, I've never had to do that.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: have you been making changes to the db structure?  When I do, I get an sql error and then it works again, but sometimes values don't keep.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if i don't... the screen scrolls endlessly... figured out cmud aint froze... if i rightclick the tackbar icon... it briefly scrolls whatever was waiting
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope... same test db, no changes to it at all
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SQLDB ... aardmob -> aardmob.db [sqlite-3]
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how are you handling sql commands that don't return results?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: "#IF (ql.RecordCount() = 0) {#ECHO No matches.}"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #IF (@sql.RecordCount() = 0) {#ECHO No matches.}
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint there a way to tell cmud.. dont parse this command line?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, that's returning a result.  I mean insert, delete, or update?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint done those yet
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just trying to get select working :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: use ` at the front of the line.  It won't work for @, as Aard eats singles.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: @@@@
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nice
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #ONINPUT {^tech} {`tech} ... wonder if that would work :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, well you might want to change to %sqldb().  Far as I know, you can't use the .execute() method with the raw db connection name like what #SQLDB returns.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint that for remote connections?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it would, but you would also need a #NOINPUT to squish your original command you were typing on the command line.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: howto open the sqlite.db with %slqdb() ?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the docs suck so far :(
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and though the documentation isn't as clear on it, you get the same options in #SQLDB as %sqldb(), the function just stores the object in a variable so you can get to the properties and methods.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so just db=%sqldb(aardmob.db) ?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: %sqldb(db connection name,db file path,other stuff for remote connection and db format)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so none of the remote stuff applies,,, so just db=%sqldb(aardmob.db) ?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: asking cause im tired f killing cmud each time i experiment :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, none of the remote stuff is necessary.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well... *corsses fingers*
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, you have to do your sql work in the same context as your connection was defined in.  Try to do it from another window when your connection was defined in the main window crashes CMud.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: same sort of situation as with the mapper, except there's no errorhandling.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: to save me a walk through the help, is there a shortcut key in mush client to switch between worlds?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still use #SQLCLOSE?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: ctrl-1/ ctrl-2?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: sweet, thanks.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you want.  So long as you pay attention to context to avoid that hassle, you can just open up your connections on connection and close them on disconnect or something.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i get an invald operation only changing #SQLDB line to %sqldb
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: query still go through and finds mobs
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think CMud isn't properly removing the connection history, though, so even though you've closed the connection it's still "there" waiting to be opened again (using #SQLDB will list them all, making this clearer).
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Gotta love those zugg bugs that will never be fixed :)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you have to assign the result to a variable.  mobsdb = %sqldb(...)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea... using %sqldb ... #SQLCLOSE aardmob gives an error
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: did
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: worked, just tossed error on #SQLCLOSE aardmob
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, don't use #SQLCLOSE.  change that to #call @var.close
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: // that and it works
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but no close
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SQLCLOSE aardmob --> Invalid Pointer
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure #SQLCLOSE works on  created connections.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not sure #SQLCLOSE works on %sqldb() created connections.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: howto close created connection?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #CALL @connectionvar.close
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nice... all working now
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thatks a pile Hanslanda :)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I believe the %sqldb() helpfile has a list of properties and methods to use. .Open to open the connection (can do this right before you do your selects, to avoid any situations where your db might have been closed)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod, just reading it now
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and Starling... bugs aint a problem.. if there are workarounds... then bug=unwanted "features" :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i was good at bugs in zmud :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I'll gladly take those if it means a really clean and easy to use system.  My opinion of Mush was already very low just because of the GUI stuff, but after having a go at the scripting side I can safely say Mush is never going to be an option for me, period.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea.. i cant handle it's interface
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: if you know progamming languages, the mush is not good, but if you know nothing it's awesome
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if you know another client... mush isn't good... if i was JUST starting out.. maybe
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: too much to re-learn and adjust too
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i started on mush and it doesn't bother me at all oO how is it not good
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it was the same with me when I went from cmud to the mush, but now I like it
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud-->cmud felt like XP to 7... same feel... lots of crap, lots of pluses :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's mostly that you as the scripter have to handle every last little detail.  That's what makes it so frustrating.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: only if you can script, I can't
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, you can script.  You would pick up zscript in no time, really.  Most of the details are containerized in concise commands.  You want a new window in zscript, you just type #WINDOW.  In Mush, you have to script what #window does for you.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I could never put that together, I'm no techi
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I'm a user, I use what other people create
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you want to draw a building, or a mechanical system, I'm your guy.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, yeah, you'd have no trouble with ZMud/CMud.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: i mean there's plenty of coding that's quite easy and has good guides
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: looks like japanese to me
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I looked at some of the lines written by Bash in his code, couldn't figure out any of it
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the one thing i am jealous of mush on is that it works with "run" so well... and now that im on cmud, i will slowly remap to use gmcp vnums... and that will solve that
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: f*e.g>)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: exactly what i'm saying Volos
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: aw unicode fail
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: Greek to me
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: fc
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: eh?  The mapper in CMud is still rather superior to Mush's (Fiendish's) attempt.  Not so much overall, but it's been around long enough that some of the specific lacks really shouldn't be there anymore.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: describe specific "lacks" and I'll point out why you are wrong
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i wub the mush mapper...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: I think his "attempt" was pretty good.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for example, the macro system in Mush doesn't seem to account for cexits, so while cexits are pretty nifty for double-click/alias speedwalking, you're pretty high and dry just walking around.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i LOVE linking cardinals to cexits :)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: what does that mean
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "the macro system in Mush" and "account for" and "high and dry"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also "seem to"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: w-->enter hole
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So you want to link the numpad movement to an alias which looks at the cardinal directions and uses cexits?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no alias needed in zcmud
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, there's an alias in there at some point by definition
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the zmud mapper gives you nothing special other than a database and a sadly clumsy way of populating that database
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: FLAT maps too
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and rearragable maps
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the keypad macros.  You type KEY4 (for those who don't know, that's the 4 key on the keypad) and Mush sends the WEST command.  It totally ignores that you had a cexit to handle the door on that west exit.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ozzy: true, but I consider the utility of those to be marginal
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda doesn't know about MUSHclient accelerators.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://i.imgur.com/zdEiG.png
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in cmud, the macro still sends WEST, but the mapper functionality intercepts it and replaces it with the associated cexit.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: it sounds like your problem is that you don't know how MUSHclient defines "macro" and how what you really want is "accelerator"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: marginal... i dont think so
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The 'west' can be modified...admittedly idk if it sends to world or execute
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luckily for you I have a wiki page describing the difference
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, it sends to execute - so easy done
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, I can give you that.  That's still two points of "work" whereas in CMud it's just one.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: assuming, of course, it's not possible to define both at the same time via the mapper command.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: zoom right over his head
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: One issue could be that Aardmush doesn't arbitrarily assign cardinal directions to cexits
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: neither does CMud. ;P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: neither does cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So how does it associate west to enter hole?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why not east?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure where this conversation is trying to go
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you do so via command line or gui
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: i did not have sexual relations with that cexit. wait that depends on what you mean by sex, cexits, and weather or not someone seriously munged the mapper
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: >e>enter hole
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think his point is that there's no "go to the room west of here" command in the AardMUSH mapper that you can call every time you type "west".
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's called typing west
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: At least I think that's his point...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: typing west goes to the room west of you
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think he's wanting it to open doors, as well
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Leinei, that is easy enough - the problem (not for me, but for people who want this cexit thing) is that there is no associated direction applied to cexits
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, I see. I guess that's fallout from a decision I made to not make doors a special case of custom exit
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because cexits handled doors rather well
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A cexit goes from UID to UID, it doesn't care about NESWUD because the distinction is meaningless
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and because locked doors are nontrivial
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: What happened to the good ole days where we manually opened doors and walked from room to room?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they died Rithlin :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin rests contentedly in The Jerk Fiendish's loving arms.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can you attach scripts to exits in Mush (aliases, actual script code, etc)?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nobody wanks anymore, i barely use hunt anymore...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush uses Lua - you can do whatever you want, however you want
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Hanslanda: you're saying words but not attaching meaning to those words
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "attach scripts to exits"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: {goto home;goto plol;vis;e;bu texas;w;n;say boardin;op east;e;op east;e;op east;e;giv tex con to A dusty train station on the edge of the Texas desert in Land of Legend from Gates to Mosaic in Xyl's Mosaic}
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err walks :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you don't use hunt, what do you use?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: quick where :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I sript an auto attempt to open all directions that are reported in ()
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that script is just exits
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: what's that?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: a command ya get when you have winkle's extender plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: qucik where and run to min
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mob
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: where dho ---> Dhogma                         A Room of Sapphires ---> [46462] Room: A Room of Sapphires Area: Z: Xyl's Mosaic SW: 46462 go "go" is clickable
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, specific example.  In Knossos, you need two pieces of paper to get into the castle.  In CMud, I can actually use a short conditional segment to check my inventory variable for the necessary stuff.  If I have it, then I send the direction and proceed to move.  If I didn't have it, I could stop the move and/or do the go-getting or just remind the user he needs to go get it.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I just use my knossosrun alias - the mapper calls knossosrun, and whatever I have in there (simple output, script, w/e) executes
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: do you get the items each time?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if ya make a long cexit wait you can put it in a cexit *inno*
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: good to know that isn't against the rules
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: My script checks whether I have them first (the script which is called via the alias 'knossorun')
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Well.. you need the items each time.  I guess it'd be quicker if you already had them ready for gq
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: i've been trying to figure out where the botting line is
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And yes, it is done by changing the cexit_wait and using 'knossosrun' as the cexit
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i stockpile... then the mapscripts know if i have em
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no autoattacking mobs volos
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: autokill
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: By abstracting the alias from the cexit, I have a single point of maintenance - it used to be getting the items each time
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: wait so as long as it doesn't attach anything (or spam) it's kosher?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: read help botting
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I have
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Volos: If it puts you in an area with aggros, its not =p
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: then you know the answer to that
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Volos, read (actually READ, not skim) help rules, help botting, help stack.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: when in doubt, don't do it.  As a corollary, if it occurs to you to do something and you are unsure if you're allowed, talk it out on channels/forums.  With the wide range of users visible to it, Lasher or the IMMs probably already did or said something that could clear up the situation for you (or, if not, they're bound to say something about it).
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: if you are not at your keyboard and your computer is killing for you, it's a bot
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If the rules for botting could be summed up by "so as long as it doesn't attach anything (or spam) it's kosher" there would only be 1 line in 1 help file
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even if your AT the keyboard and your computer is "gaining" for you.. your a bot :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you idle all night in an aggro room casting spells and quaffing it's a bot...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: actually, that's not true, Wario.  There's no legal scenario that exists that lets a trigger or other script kill for you.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yeah I get that, but I
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or brew for you :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yeah I get that, but I've been working on a local map to run scripts, but i figured getting items to go through area specific places would be a no go
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's exactly what he said, Hanslanda
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and "at the keyboard" is a rather inaccurate term, to boot.  The latest bot catch proved that.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: He didn't say that was the only way to bot...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you can walk away and your chr is still "working" then it's a bot whether afk or not...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Watching TV.. is pretty close to AFK.. borderline could go either way. Some people are afk while they do that.. others are not. Ive had TV watching groupies that take 2 mins to hit a cexit.. ><
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a followbot dont even need a script... just a glaze over trigger :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah the groupie thing is another kettle of fish
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this is all really old territory for me, having come from Dragonrealms.  We really should adopt the terms of "responsive" and "unresponsive".
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: the truth is it's really up to Lasher
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: if he determines your a bot, nothing can save you
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: we had dedicated mudders doing hours of homework on the computer while playing, and they got so engrossed in it that they just stopped paying attention to the game.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Except donations.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and a lot of people actually complain about that Wario :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: it's his world
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish bonks Xaxz on the head for being such an UTTER moron.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: haha
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The rules are pretty clear - you have to push pretty damn hard before you're at risk of being nuked.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Of course, some just like to whine
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: some of them were even arranged in a side-by-side display, just to avoid the alt-tabbing.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Just dont use triggers to exp.. quaff trigger... auto cast trigger.... to borderline.. and just lazy imo.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Autocast trigger is legal, but risky
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same for autoquaff
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Risky if you idle out in an aggro room.. haha
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i was told years ago, don't combine autocast and autoquaff and you're safer
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: If you dont have those and go afk... your character will just idle.. or die.. and wont get nuked :p
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: by the great valkur
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my autoquaff only fires if i issued the kill command
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yeah I'm trying to stay within in the relm of complex trigers and scripts but have no desire to have the character do something when I'm not there, but scripting the buying or obtaining something in a runto script would be ok?  [Following your advice and asking when it's not clear :]
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so i use autocast... die pretty fast if i way away in an aggro room
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: k alias --> targeted_kill = yes ---> mob dies, i need heal --> quaff
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aggro attacks me, targeted_kill = no... mob dies, i need heal... no quaff
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: also, do not discuss what you have running.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I can't safely say yes now, Volos, but I very VERY dimly recall it being said that was okay.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: what do you have running starling? we all want to know!
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: If its that minimal borderline, I would assume you will get a warning or a convo about it. The last bots that got nuked.. were blatantly botting and knew it imo.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: we also want to know what you are wearing, but thats another discussion
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: All anyone needs to know is that it is in compliance with the rules and/or local decency laws.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Alright, the thing about the Knossos area that was mentioned: the path to get each of the 2-3 items contains no aggro mobs, no automatic kill, they are shops, essentially.  And after using/giving them to appropriate people, you land in a room with no aggro.  Nothing is gained.  Just passage through mappable rooms.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: damn, i wanted something hot
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: any reason why a keyoard would work fine with notead but not MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Although, yes, it's SERIOUSLY borderline, as far as I've seen/heard, it's acceptable
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: there are aggros in the path to castle
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: notepad*
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they don't see invis, if I recall, Ozzy.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Is it not legal to speedwalk through rooms with aggro mobs?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There is nothing illegal about making an alias to do the ridiculous and stupid Knossos rigmarole.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Starling.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: What I'm saying is, the acquisition of the items aren't involved with killing anything.  If you speedwalk through a room with aggies, no problem.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: sweet
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you probably don't want to, since there's usually no viable way to predict the aggro load.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: make an alias can cexit it in mapper...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Unless you're just boss.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err acan = and
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There are a few aggros on that route, so what?  Kill them.  If it screws up the route, redo it.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Assuming it's an alias, yes.  If you have a trigger that gets an item every repop, then no.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Don't need a trigger for it, Leinei.  A simple alias does it all.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they are still items you got while "botting".  Similarly acquired items (ie, practice bots) are explicitly noted as having to be gotten rid of.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, wasn't talking about knossos in general.  Just the whole "getting items for you" part.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah no trigs for items
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: But it's not a trigger...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: aliases/macros are fine
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: umm, Bloood, have you tried a restart of Mush to see if it resets whatever got broke?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Unplug it and then plug it back in
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: every key blood or just some of them?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: "I'm not botting - I'm implementing my own fixes to problems that YOU should have fixed first!"
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: most of them, have to type very slow
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: if not all
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I seem to recall a random issue in CMud where the cut/copy/paste shortcuts just stop working, restart fixes it for me.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it works in Notepad, it's probably not a port or hardware issue.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i leave mush running for weeks...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: sometimes i get an issue like that, but closing mush and opening fixes it always
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint had cmud long enough... but the only time my zmud went down was when the UPS couldn't last a power outage
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I seldom have trouble with cmud corruption these days, I leave it running for weeks on end without issue
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: But I also don't do anything intensive, script-wise
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Triggers: 2325 Aliases: 445 Variables: 657 Paths: 0 Macros: 50 Class Folders: 956 Mapped Zones: 292 with 31982 rooms. Menus: 4 Tabwords: 101 Status Windows: 7 Directions: 10 Buttons: 16
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: we will see :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i ALWAYS have problems with CMUD :/
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Doesn't mean I don't have a lot scripts running, they just aren't very intensive
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: i really like it, but it would seem tt++ isn't popular...I have a hard time thinking it would easly be corrupted :)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: and windows also works for weeks without crashing ?? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I rather doubt that, Ozzy.  First, you have the basic Windows issue (something always goes wrong with Windows, or there's some new update to install, forcing a restart), but on top of that, ZMud was just AMAZINGLY buggy.  Way worse than CMud version 2.37, and that was superbad.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: Luckily I cant write a script if I tried :)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use xp... aint updated in forever :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Starling eyes Absomax suspiciously.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: me thinks ozzy is just setting a honey pot
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: isnt tt++ designed for mac/linux?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: is there something wrong with using linux?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Sounds like something a bot would say, Absomax.  You already have a dishonest name.  I'm denouncing you to the authorities, you can explain yourself in Yodok labor camp.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: im using xp pro sp3
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: \\BEDROOM has been up for: 16 day(s), 19 hour(s), 25 minute(s), 2 second(s)  (power outage up here in the mountains... lasted all night)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: oooh, thats the best labor camp!
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bloood growls.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: lol :) If I could write scripts I prolly would have slipped into bot land already... was a pooint when I tried to learn from webpages.. lasted about 20 minutes though ^^
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: sorry blood wasn't making a specific suggestion...what was the problem in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Bloood's problem was in Mush, not CMud.  Pay attention Volosbot! :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: lol, the problem was his keyboard works in windows, but not in MUSH.. nothing ot do with z/cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: the problem is with just about anything i use my *NEW* keyoard for, straight from the shelof a c superstore
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: pc*
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Turn off numlock?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: hmm well I will try that, thank you 
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: Bloood, have you tried upgrading to a direct neural uplink interface?  Keyboards are sooo out of style these days
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: give those of us trying to follow this conversation with a screen reader a break... what kind of keyboard?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: numlock should only be affecting the keypad, possibly the meta type of keys that aren't letters or numbers.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: if there was a neural interface, I'd be plugged in
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: does it count as botting if I'm bionic?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: theres your problem wario, its wireless :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you have another device to test on, Bloood?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: turned num lock off, same problem
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that would quickly reveal if it was the keyboard or not.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: install the bluetooth tomorrow
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: an no its NOT wireless, its Universal Serial Bus
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: seconded and did you just right out USB
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You have issues with a keyboard you just bought? Reinstall drivers, change computers and see if it's the same, return to the shop
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are the appropriate USB drivers installed?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: thats a heck of a cable
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: drivers? keyboard? i dont like keyboards that need drivers :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: All keyboards need drivers...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: use some voltage monitering software, make sure you're sending
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: we don't need no stinking drivers
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I suppose that's no longer an issue these days, but the last USB keyboard I owned was for a computer that didn't even have the USB drivers installed.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Smack it a few times and see if it then works
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: by drivers i mean ones supplied with the keyboard... if the OS can't do it alone... then meh :P
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: drivers what drivers, i only have I/O problem ...
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nods Aizma
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: no drver inclded no propper documentation listing plug and play capability, not even on box
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: hehehe seriously though get a free usb voltage moniter 
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: P&P is a relative term
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: this piece of junk is on it's way back for a upgrade
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: okay, now that Bloood's support ticket is closed, where were we?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Hmm, GMCP folks: anyone know if comm.quest will keep sending action:ready more than once after you've reach 0 quest time?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wanna be rich enough to buy an Optimus Maximus Keyboard.... 
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: Optimus Maximus Keyboard???
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod.. it's only $1500.00
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: but it has sex with your fingers
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Absomax Tech: wtf does it do for 1500..?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Maximus_keyboard
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oled displays under each key
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: transforms into a pet robot from outerspace.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: fascinating 
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF1qNayc_9g
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't think it will, but you can create a test trigger on that package and just print or record the arguments.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #SHOW %gmcp.comm.quest ---> action=status|wait=7    action=status?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all the arguments should be detailed on the wiki page.  Keep in mind that CMud doesn't clear the gmcp from prior tags
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: doesn't clear the gmcp from prior tags <-- eh?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: right, if the waiting version of comm.quest has the arguments of status and wait but the request version only sends the area/room/mob info and stores the time in duration, then after the request version comes in, the recorded info for comm.quest via the %gmcp variable will be status/wait/area/room/mob/duration.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: most of the time it really doesn't matter, but you might have misfire situations because of that.  All depends on what you're doing.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: canasta
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: when making an alias to swap out gear, is there a way to call out a piece of eq based on location it's worn? or only keywords in the name of the item?
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can 'remove eyes', for exampple, if that's what you're asking
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: help wearable
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: that would work for removing, what about putting it into a bag after removing it
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the wearable keywords won't work for that.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: k
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: each item has an item number you can discover via the invdata/eqdata commands.  Using that you can always refer to the specific item you wish to work with.
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: oooo didn't know that
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can also turn on the invmon tags so you can get the numbers and similar info whenever you do an action on an item (get, drop, wear, remove, etc)
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: how do i interpret those numbers in invmon... i see the ID of the item, what are the ohter 4 numbers
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: help invmon
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: help invmon
T3/r7/2012-10-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: gotcha, thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: In Cmud if i have a db variable with key values like "A b c" how would i refer to them in a script?  @var.a b c wouldn't work would it because of the spaces?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: use the %db() function
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: if it helps the a b c will be coming from a trigger so it'll actually be %1
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: what hans said.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ahh forgot about that tnx
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: anyone on want to talk about aws and technology for networking in reguards to cloud layout general and and specifics?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: hey its the tech channel
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: want to... not really, but i can if you want to
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: knock knock
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: allright aws micro seems plesent for webserving servicing front ends to apps on well everywher like google apps for instance or any fetchable like {curl} secure web application
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: who's there?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kenzi Tech: Meee!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: long pause......
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: java!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kenzi Tech: .......... Sory :(
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: aws clusters like the newer I//O tiers they are more for well visual enabled web servicing applications ~~java is one
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: sorry anyone who wants to talk aws like it's an ad makes me want to tell java jokes
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: fine fine
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: allright knock knock 
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kenzi Tech: Wrong channel :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: allright whos there bannana
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yeah I shouldn't have started.  but i had a feeling only those here would get a java knock knock
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: That makes my wonder how many people get java knock 
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: the python users may never know...
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: (not that I hate on python)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: I like python java however just works
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Then either you've been programming in java too long, or you haven't been programming long.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: oh? it was meant as a joke
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fisban Tech: not long enough it hard i understand
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: msg = %subregex(@msg, "(.)", "@function(\1)") ... anyone knowhow to get that to work in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: removing the double quotes gives illegal character for the \ ... with quotes, untion doesnt parse
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: @function
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try moving the double quotes to just around the \1
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So... @function("\1"))
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: with "\1"  \1 from regex isnt sent to function
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wait, are you trying to just capture... one character?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because that's all your subregex will do.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the function is an addcolor thing... send it "a" it returns "@Ra"
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and @R is random
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So basically... You're trying to emulate this.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: trying to fix my colortalk script from zmud
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yes! :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 932x402x052x361x480x381x50x481x961x002x040x350x212x510x750x011x221x260x641x190x081x880x230x761x660x970x191x890x@w
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whoops.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I nac osla od ti .sdrawkcab
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ive gotten close with %copy, but spaces seem to "miss" randomly
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'll show you mine, then.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Eh, backwards is so readable.  rot13 man!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: !tnereffid tub ,sdrakcab osla si sihT
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rot13 & leet are on my list to convert as well
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://pastebin.com/wGfbWRx1
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like that last one Etzli
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That one is for rainbow text.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It also allows the addition of () and whatnot.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Since apparently () didn't work without substitution.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. just had a derp moment... yours showed me what i was doing wrong i think... needa get the function out of the regex
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It can take two parameters. The first is the text to be colored, the second is the maximum random amount (defaults to 256)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Ozzy.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like mine... can pick color themes
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I may add that in the future, who knows? :p
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ill paste to you what i come up with
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'll then convert it to Lua so I don't have to deal with modifications of special characters. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: (Hopefully, that is)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... Lua is way back on my back burner
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's pretty simple, to be quite honest.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In fact, with just a couple changes, you can turn a few of your scripts into Lua code.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is what you pasted meant to be an alias?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, it's a function.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh... :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I type @rainbow("Text to be colorized") and it colorizes it.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: Any Html programmers around ?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wierd.... testing 1 2 3 256
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: html is a markup language, no need to be a programmer to do it
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's weird?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You don't really program html.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nm....
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Watch out, folks, we got a Network Engineer here!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: im html copyist
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: any html coders
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no such thing as a coder for html.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It puts the js in the html or it gets the hose again. or... <BLINK>
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: There's plenty, Justa.  Better to just ask your question.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: All the blink tags!  All of them.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: according to you what's the correct term
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: <strike>Three strikes, you're out!</strike>
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It shall make my site the most gorgeous of them all.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Web Designer
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Vakieh.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: how do you get the forward form button to work ?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: your site is shit if you don't have customer cursors 
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: custom*
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, but custom cursers aren't allowed on this channel. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: like the little grey dog running!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A pun worthy of Majic.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli thanks Vakieh heartily.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: soloution ?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: thee button is showing but how do I get it to work 
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Link it to wherever you want it to go?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: copy another example for the button:p
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: it's not supposed to be a hypelink
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I didn't say it had to be a hyperlink.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: supposed to be like 'continue to next page
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But if you want it to go somewhere instead of sitting there looking like a pile of dog crap, you need to link it to something.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then it needs to be linked to a hyperlink.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can't sit there and tell it to continue to the next page if you don't link it to the next page.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anything can be wrapped in an <a href...></a> - images, buttons, you name it.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Of course, doing so would be using technology from the 80s...better to just learn some Web 2.0 from scratch, imo
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: ggrr
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're missing bb
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: and you got it in the wrong order. It's rgb, not grb. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}/2.M.F.L Justa Tech: roadblock need to take a break. I need pizza !!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: any recommended free paint like programs that don't destroy transparency on save? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I just want to resize pngs and save them again so that they are smaller. But the default paint program in windows goes 'nom nom nom' and destroys the transparency
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks again Etzli :)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i only wanted it back for "moo" :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Now you should incorporate xterm. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that would get complicated from a pick list :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like the simplicity currently...
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: However...
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the ctalk alias can be copied to like xmastalk ... original_colors = color_list, color_list = {R|r|G|g} ... do it... color_list = original_colors
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You could use the current picklist, but add the shades of xterm for each color.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ohhh.. nodnod
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wanna do a "fadE" script too
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Easy enough to do comparing color 256.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oo, that'd be cool.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that'd be decently easy todo with a loop
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dangit.. im never gonna level now :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I know the feeling.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: 142 is the number of staircases at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, in the Harry Potter universe.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is it sad that i have just as much fun scripting as i do mudding? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Melvin's the reason I don't level much. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really. I have a lot of fun scripting, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i figure the bot can mud while i script
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Pondering Penthesilea peers around herself intently.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pondering Penthesilea Tech: my mud beeped!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I figure the bot can script while I mud!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Go back to your Imm cave, Penthy! Bots are talking here!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i needa make a questbot... http://www.conradshome.com/sshot.png
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that nag gets annoying :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pondering Penthesilea Tech: for all I care your bot is free to do anything other than mud while you mud :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if you truly believe i have a bot... tell Lasher.. he can vnc in anytime :)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pondering Penthesilea Tech: how do you know he isn't alredy?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, that nag would annoy the hell out of me, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because unless Lasher can hide his IP address and knows Ozzy's server...
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if he can guess the hash i have for a password... then he deserves to already be in
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pondering Penthesilea Tech: who said he needs to guess? :)
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: any idea whay this dont work in cmud? #SHOW %replace(%leftback(%comget(%comcreate("Scriptlet.TypeLib"),"Guid"),2),"-")
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in zmud it shows like: 348193AB41E349548A9076360B09B2EC
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: without the replaces... {F806F42D-9B3B-451D-94B9-793316BC8560}
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... Zugg Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:13 pm Looks like a bug in the %comget routine. Doing this works: #5 {$a=%comcreate("Scriptlet.TypeLib");#show %replace(%leftback($a.guid,2),%char(45),"")}
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damned Internet. I want to rip heads off every time I do a search for doing something in JavaScript and the post is labelled Javascript, but is in JQuery
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: JQuery is not JavaScript, damnit
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: sounds really terrible
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it'd be like going to a food store, asking for a bag of flour and being given a loaf of bread
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then when you say "this isn't a bag of flour" them saying "well, it's made with flour, what's the problem?"
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so the internet clearly needs to fire some of it's staff?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 255254253252251250249248247246245244243242241240239238237236235234233232
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What exactly are you looking for, Tigernuts?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 124 chars is all that fits on a channel using 3 digit xterm colors... anymore and it hits the 1019 char limit of a channel
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: last line was 122 chars :P
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so need to put a check into the fade
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Dexx wouldn't be able to "wang" with a fade
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I wrote an alias in MUSH to add portals to mapper, but I get the message it isn't recognizing the command.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: output is right though, I get the impression it's just not being parsed by the mapper somehow
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: any way to query room # outside of the mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: with sqlite for instance
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, use GMCP
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er...?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: gmcp... i'm in tintin
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Sure.  It's a sqlite database, open it up with whatever interface you like.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh.  Sure, GMCP reveals room number etc to any client
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Demosthenex, Tintin supports GMCP.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: guess i've got some reading to do then
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Does typeing /#var GMCP[ROOM] do anything?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: without the /
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: check out https://code.google.com/p/aardwolf-tintin/
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Demosthenex Tech: yeah, says no such variable
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah just download the aardwolf tintin someone just linked.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: Question to Mushclient users - I will like to set up my own alias with a target in mind - Web SOMEONE - C Web SOMEONE | C Web SOMEONE
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: how do i replace the SOMEONE using an abbreviation? %1 ?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Use "web *" in the alias box and "c web %%1" twice in the text box.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er, one %
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: will that be the same as for trigs?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: For e.g. someone super heroes - and i rplace the name and i can send tell to that person saying grats?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Yes, but don't do that.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah.. what Aizma said
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Korridel is agreeing with that Aizma person again...
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: I wouldn't do that as a trigger.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: Nods, im just saying as an example, tyvm guys (:
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: any idea what would cause ie9 to ignore css2 and render in quirks mode?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I assume 'it being internet explorer ever' isn't the answer you want.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: while that's the correct answer, it's not the most helpful one
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: It's an MS product?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i refer the honourable lady to the answer I gave some moments ago
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Do you have the right document type at the top?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: the evils of stacking
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the two browsers deserving of being beaten to death with a rusty club are IE, and the Mac version of Safari
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they're a web programmers worst nightmare
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bah, even <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=9" /> won't force it
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i guess i'll never know
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: i need a zmud expert please
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ask your question, Bridge Keeper.  I'm not afraid!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: ok i have hit a key or something accidently and now my main window shows no output only the command line
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: i have closed reopen tried ressizing unlocking the layout
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Go to prefs and ensure that "mud output" is checked
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: only the main widow is screwed up
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: thanks!!!!!!!!
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: In aardmush, can I set container IDs as variables and call them from aliases?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is this feasible?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I do something like that.  not with variables, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm looking for faster/smarter ways to access my containers without restringing them yet
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: I have an alias to pattern-match and substitute in the bag I'd, then pass on the command.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no reason to restring for that with the ids
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: er, id.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: until I figure out how to manage all my sets.  I have 4 backpacks
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Daiko.. just make a list of the item ids of the gear in each set. then make an alias to get them out, and equip them
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, I'll get started on that.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Somehow I feel like you're being sarcastic =p
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You have until 5:00 pm mud time to get it figured out, or else you will have to give me all your eq and tps.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: lol no.  That's what I was thinking I would have to do
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah, um, Starling, I'll get started on that.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: lol. Thats pretty much it. I'd suggest using invsort to make it a bit easier on yourself - maybe invsort, pull the gear for a reange, then put it in a different bag when you're done with it to make it easier
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: sounds like a good project to do while I'm qsitting lvl 1
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: shrug. Won't take you that long to do i think.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: do you guys have all your eq in one container or a container per set?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're feeling fancy you could probably store the ID #s in a variable, and use a for loop to equip them all.. but thats over complicating things I think, unless you have another reason to do it that way
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 2 containers - but i dont' bother. ive been using invsort and just pulling the items out by name and equipping them. i'll automate later
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is there a tag that shows items IDs?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: invdata.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can use invmon, too.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you're wearing it, you can use 'eqdata'
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: i am playing this game on the portal client, i'm wondering if there is a way to get a map window (like in mushclient for aardwolf), without actually having to download mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: eqdata and invdata aren't yielding any results.  Is there a plugin in aardmush that is capturing this information?  How can I check?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you can enable trigger tracing, but repaing buffer plugin spams it a lot, do it only for a short time
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Where do I set that, Huan?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: Ctrl-Alt-T, or Game->Trace
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Repaint buffer is dominating that output.  I'll load a non-plugin mc and see
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i have an alias, that has worked for weeks, and it's all of a sudden not accepting that input after i changed one of the words in the alias... how didi break it
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: By changing one of the words in the alias.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: by changing one of the words?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: but it's saying my alias is an invalid command... whereas before it called the alias
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i've made this change several times before =/
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone able to write an applescript for me - TP for payment?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im assuming it can be done via applescript
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: what is the maximum size for an item name ?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: 80 chars including colour codes, I believe
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you want shortname or roomname?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: oke tnx that is a full line :(
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: no the name of equipment
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes, items have 2 names.  The shortname is what you see in inventory or when doing a command on the item.  The roomname (also called long name) is what you see when it's on the ground.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The short desc is limited to 50 chars including color codes, which in other words is ridiculously short.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: See 'help strings' for more disheartening info.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: ahh in that case i was looking for the shortname
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: anyone got the new Android OS?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: apple here
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Crap, I don't even got an Android anymore.. My phone stopped working and booting.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: anyone on using tt++?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: So, I just got a new laptop charger, and when it's plugged in, the TV screen gains some static.. What would that indicate?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: crappy ground on charger maybe
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: electromagnetic interference.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: probably just a crappy charger
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Hmm.. Any fix?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i bet it gets hot really fast too
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it works well enough, it's probably easiest just to move the charger to a plug farther away.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ohh lol you meant an actual tv lol the people that ask me questions normally call a monitor a tv
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Lol, no actual TV.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya might be a bad ground on the outlet too
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Definitely not outlet, so must be charger.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: perhaps take it in to be looked at, just to make sure it's not some sort of hazard or defect (which I suppose might yield a replacement if you just bought it).
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is this manufacturer replacement charger or internet bargin?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have one internet bargin charger that if you leave it plugged in the with wrong side down long enough it will start to melt its plastic casing
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I bought one of those for like 5 bucks
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Ended up burning my laptop battery out
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: To the point that it only charged to like 20% max
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: So then I had to buy a new battery and I went out and bought a 30 dollar universal charger that actually worked
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, always check the documentation for the charger specs.  You buy the wrong one and you could burn out the battery/risk fire.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Well, at least I can use it to recharge my battery and return it. :P Getting a new laptop soon anyways.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Question about the Aardwolf app for Droid - Anyone know how to backup the data for the program and transfer it to a new phone?
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: I can't transfer the app to the sd card and can't access the core memory via my pc.
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bt.happygoatstudios.com
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: tnx
T3/r7/2012-10-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: figures... I wouldn't check the application options for a "export data" option... Hah
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: anyone use blowtorch on galaxy S3 yet? I am having a lot of issues with it.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any reason "\+-{65}\+" wouldn't match the frame on a lore or id?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, I have a 13.8 volt DC power supply that got rained on a few days (a week?) ago.  Opened it up and everything looks dry inside, could be some moisture inside the transformer but not sure.  Overload fuse is intact, so I don't think it shorted out at all.  What are the chances of things going badly if I try to power it up?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Was it powered when it got wet?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Throw it in a ziploc bag of white rice for a day.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: anybody knows the command line to reset the position of S&D Gui?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: winkle posted that but the note already expired
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try xset reset gui
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: there must be not a command , but a line of commands
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: wow but it worked
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: tyvm
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezerith Tech: prod?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ezerith Tech: how do I get sounds to work?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: does anyone know of a competent mud front end for ios?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have pocketmud installed on my ipad.  It's not bad from what I can see but I haven't really driven it too hard
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I recommend not running MUD clients directly on mobile platforms, but using telnet/ssh clients to access full computer MUD clients...saves you from having to duplicate efforts on desktop/mobile, and there are no full-fledged MUD clients on any platform
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daikojun nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: im running Blowtorch on my android phone and its great. very stable, customizable. 
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it's funny how muds have evolved.  One cannot simply telnet into Mordor anymore.  XD
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: using iMud on my ipad and its just terrible. hah! telnet into mordor
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pass the Zhalt Tech: iSSH and a bluetooth keyboard + a linuxserver with TF and you got yourself a good mudding platform in an ipad :)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I played The Two Towers for years.  Our phrase was always "One does not simply telnet in Mordor!"  Geek humor though.  No one got it but the Tolkien mudders  lol
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iSSH isn't free, but it's a helluvan access tool
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pass the Zhalt Tech: Worth every penny!
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I bought iSSH.  I love it for my server admin
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: iSS?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a telnet/ssh app, which is also a VNC client, RDP client, Xserver, and can tunnel all of the above through SSH for security
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I run 38 servers.  5 Windows servers and the rest Linux
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: im not trying to get crazy with it. just wanna be able to log onto muds on my ipad without crashing lol
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: not gonna argue with the power of Active Directory and Exchange  ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: PocketMUD is pretty stable imo.  check it out.  Worse case, you have to uninstall it  
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are other free telnet/ssh apps...if you really want a MUD client, then aside from the ones mentioned already, themudconnector website has one as well
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: cool. thanks guys!
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: I have the aardwolf app from android market but its weird that it doesn't have mccp option 
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hellion: it supports mccp
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: how do I turn it on? I didn't see mccp in encoding
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no options for mccp, it's just negotiated on
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: I don't think I got the mccp qp bonus then :/
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: yeah thats Blowtorch. im using that for my phone as well
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "compress"
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hellion        72064        12391
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that says you're using mccp
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: well I was horribly wrong I an compressing
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I can credit over 2k qps to the MCCP bonus so far
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 60k here :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: nice
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: who maintains the aard blowtorch app?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that writes blowtorch
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: he play aardwolf?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: very cool
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: so how is trigger used on this aardwoof app, ideally and legally 
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: well I read someone got banned for using triggers a certain way 
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for "legally", help botting...although the app isn't mature enough for much in the way of advanced scripting
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: I wanna avoid that but at the same time get some shortcuts to make phone playing easier
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: ok just bought pocket us
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: already seems smoother
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not having variables is a pretty significant limitation
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: pocketmud
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are workarounds, such as defining aliases to approximate variables, though, but you'd have to work to make a bot in a current mobile client
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read through the botting helpfile, it'll give a good idea of what's allowed
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: off
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type channel names to toggle :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: gg me
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: are MXP substitution triggers available in mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: substitution in MUSH is "gag and separately re-echo it how you want it"
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and then echo stuff with send tags?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like mapper output... ^(.*) \((.*)\) \((\d+)\) \-  \[shop\]$  ---> gag & echo \1 (\2) (<send 'mapper goto \3>\3</send>) -  [Shop]   <---- something like that?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what is the calculation to determine then 1million mobs will be killed?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: when*
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud on the pattern matching page i get range out of order in charachter class (241) what does that mean?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: i'm wondering if someone could tell me why everytime i type bigmap, it only loads about half the map and then it disconnects
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: you are getting a buffer overflow (to much data is being sent to your client) if you get a client that is mccp enabled (almost anything but telnet/phone) it can handle it
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: hmm. okay, are there any suggestions? i am using portal client
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Just as a sidenote, that would probably be a heap overflow, not a buffer overflow.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: have you tried the aardmush (on the website)?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: are you talking about mushclient(?) i've haven't tried that yet i will. thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the one from aard's site includes a bunch of things for aard, including a mapper :)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: there is a special one made just for aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: My life is now complete.    http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ecea/?cpg=47958816
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jerrik Tech: hello, is there a client for windows 98?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botnet Tech: gasp!
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: telnet should work
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: I... I think Mushclient would run on Win98...?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fat Ass Cartman Tech: probably old version of zmud or mushclient
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Zmud
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: zmud/mush/gmud would probably all run
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah try mush
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: but I wouldn't put a win98 box on the internet for anything
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 98 is the mosty hacked OS to date
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Botnet Tech: he could use it as a honeypot ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: MS FTP servers make good hpots  lol
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last time 98 on the internet it was hacked/infested within hours...
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err last time i used 98
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: 26 min was our record
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and that was like 5 years ago
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: even XP is risky on the internet with a zillion security apps
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i've got one up, no issues... Asus RT-N16 with Tomato Firmware as a firewall
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err without
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe for a dedicated server... windows 98 didn't get the nickname "reinstall weekly" for nothing :P
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err dedicated task
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only people who had to re-install were people who didn't know a lot about computers
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'd probably go linux if i had an old pc that couldn't handle 7
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 98SE was quite staable
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ixle nods at Santher.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use Debian net install on my only P150 Thinkpad 760XL's :P
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only=old*
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: does anyone use fiendish's floating map on zmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for continents?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: no the little map
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i have a miniwindow with the mud map in it... pretty much the same as his
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just imported to cmud without issue... need the code for it?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: i have been using it since he made it but i had to reload it and the little window creates but the map displays in the main window
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: this is what i am using http://www.not-porn.com/Aardwolf/zMUD%20Scripts/AutoMapCapture.html
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: find the trigger... it has "#C+ Map"  <-- make sure "Map" is the same as the windowname you want it to goto
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #TRIGGER {^~<MAPSTART~>$} {#PRIORITY {#GAG;#GAGON;#C+ MAP;#CLR MAP}} "" {notrig}   <-- that part
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: do you have a mini window open?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: from what i tell its called map
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: yes its called map
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: well MAP actually
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then it should be capturing to the "MAP" window
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: i know but its not
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what is the name of your main window?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: open your settings editor... search for C+ MAP
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: make sure it's only in one trigger
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: there is 2 should i delete both and reload it?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: or just delete one
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: one is in class Automap...
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: and one has no class
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's the right one
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: ok so i deleted the one with no class and restarted zmud but its still the same
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: ....
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know a way to check a trigger in a mini-window using #SHOW 1 from the main window in cmud/zmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyone know a way to check a trigger in a mini-window using #SHOW %trigger() from the main window in cmud/zmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that shows -1 for a nonexistant trigger in main window... but i wanna chack if a trigger exists in a mini window
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eclaboussure (
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: ozzy is the bested ever!
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: bestest!
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... took me long enough :P
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eclaboussure Tech: i appreciate it
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: with php im trying to do 2 different querys depending on what the password is, here is an example http://pastebin.com/ZMM4AtVc it seems that if i enter passwrd into the password field and a name into the username box it still runs the second query only, and i cant seem to figure out why
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what displays when you just print the variables you're testing?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was coding to much zscript recently i forgot my else in my function
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Anyone familiar with the ASUS Transformer Tablet
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Was playing Aard on it, when all of a sudden, there was a black lit up screen, I forced a reboot, and the first 5 seconds when the screen is usually black with the ASUS logo, it was blue with the ASUS logo, and then shortly after, it was black, but lit up. Forced another reboot on it, and the blue screen got shorter. Now when it loads, it is just black and lit up, and it doesn't show the screen at all. I hear noises, so i know its working. Its just that the display is messed up. Is there any way to fix this?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Maybe you shouldn't have been botting.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: to much porn
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: No such thing.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: could be the graphics card connection
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Bang the tablet on something
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A Little Johns grins evilly at Starling.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: high humidity or moisture or spilt liquids/food
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: And tell Granola not to use it to film camshows, that kind of thing will ruin it.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: "Must be a moisture issue," she says. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: dust, smoke, fumes
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've heard of mirrors breaking, cameras breaking, and even webcams breaking, but a whole tablet breaking? That's a whole new kind of... well, you get the point. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: insects, mites. fleas
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: But really, anyone? Graphics card connection?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: try reseating the card?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably just a loose cable.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Not that experienced, Santher.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Reseating a graphics card is simple. You just pull it out, and plug it back in.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just means to take it out and stick it back in
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: location, like too near other equipment
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Basically, you're just checking to make sure all the contacts are indeed, contacting.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Ah. Well, we also need to know how to open it, then. :x
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Yeah, it's extremely easy if you've opened a computer before. It's a terrifying process if you don't know what you're doing.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: The tablet, that is.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But this is a tablet we're talking about.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not a PC.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: Youtube can teach you anything.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah tablet, you're screwed :P
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And therefore, it's most likely a ribbon cable loose.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: Can't view web pages, connection times out. :(
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you may void your warranty if you try
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And you will have to open it up to reseat the ribbon cable.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: while the tablet is off
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaxz Tech: If you have a warranty that will cover this problem, then send the sucker back in...
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's really no different than opening up your smartphone and reseating the screen's ribbon cable. But if you're unsure, time to take it in to someone who might know what they're doing (i.e. a computer professional)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Did you press the little reset button?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: is the battery depleted
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: the battery is dead now. yes. and yes i resetr
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: it a few times
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: not sure how to open the damn thing though
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: no screws or anything
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: recharge the battery
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably a tab slot a la electronic keyfobs.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: it just shows a black lit up screen
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: recharge it to full anyway?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can you use an HDMI cable to connect it to a monitor?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: i could if i had one...but i dont
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: the tablet has that capability
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Might be worth a try
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It might be a "sleep of death" issue that I'm seeing when googling for this issue
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: General consensus seems to be try connecting it to a monitor to see if the video is working, if it does then it's either a hardware issue with the display, or possibly a firmware issue.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: At least, that is what I'm seeing.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: black lit up screen is the sleep of death? that sounds pretty terminal
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: ill see what i can do. thanks a lot star
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Did you install any apps lately?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Seems some apps can be troublesome and can cause this.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: nope not in a few months
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: i was playing aard at the time. most recent app is n64oid
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Is the tablet in power saving mode?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: currently its dead
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Did you cold-reboot it?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: cold reboot?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: like was the tablet cold when i rebooted it?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Apparently there is a similar issue that cold rebooting it can fix, not sure if it's the same thing you're having though.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Cold reboot, aka hard reboot, etc.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: in other words, turn the system 100% off, then back on
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: oh i see. ive done that and it doesnt fix it
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: thanks for the help. i guess i can just try and wait and see if it goes away since my warranty has expired
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Little Johns Tech: appreciate it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: is there a config option somewhere to get mush to autosave (or more often if it's already doing so)?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I keep losing changes whenever my laptop hangs...
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: In aardmush, how do I call a variable that I created in an alias?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you create it with SetVariable?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I want to call a MC variable in a MC alias
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: no, I was adding it to the variables section
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah, you added it manually?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yes.  I'm making a series of equipment aliases and figured making the containers a variable would make it easier to update in the future
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: use GetVariable to access then
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?function=GetVariable
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thank you.  now another aardmush question:  is there a plugin that is capturing eqdata/invdata?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: to what end?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: when I type eqdata I get no output
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: on regular mc it works
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you may have installed a plugin on your own that interferes
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: i get the output, and i have the stock download of the aardclient
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: none of my plugins do anything with that
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: then it must be something of bast's.  Thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: or did you turn off the tags, daiko?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zylias Tech: in-game
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I have the tags on
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: eqdata is bast's.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: I've got a plugin question: is there a plugin that already exists to suppress all spellup casting messages?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: to what end?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yours or others?  If the latter I think there is a config option.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I think it's StatDB that capturing
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: err eqdb
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: my own. I have a trigger that sends "spellup" every tick so that all my spells stay up, but i'd like to not actually see all the spells being recast all the time
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Never seen that requested or done.  It can certainly be accomplished, but they don't all follow the same pattern so you'd probably needa  list of them all.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: it's not a huge deal, it'd just be nice is all
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: so I have to write an alias in Lua if I want to call a variable?
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just use ariable i believe
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err @variablename
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or not heh :P
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but in lua it would be...
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Var = GetVariable('varname')
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Send (Var)
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how can I display a variable in a Note command?  \\\Note("ariableName") doesn't work.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how can I display a variable in a Note command?  \\\Note("@variableName") doesn't work.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try \\\Note(GetVariable("variableName"))
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: gotcha, thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "@" variable calling syntax only works as a preprocessor within the client context and is not a general script thing. It's safer to always use GetVariable unless you really need to do otherwise for very specific cases
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I know what I meant, and even I have a hard time understanding what I just said.
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: lol I got it
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I'm not getting this.  I can call a variable from the command line but I can't in an alias.  What is the syntax for calling a variable in an alias?  
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: like a client variable.  not in a script
T3/r7/2012-10-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I want to say 'get <item> from <bagvariable> in a MC alias
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Does anyone know how to create an alias to invite certain people into a group while afk?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sounds kind of iffy.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, I'm about ready to declare Mushclient's implementation of sqlite bugged...any way to check how much memory each plugin is using at any given point?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Vakieh, S&D was leaking file descriptors OSLT, I think.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: OSLT?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or something like that
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra grins evilly.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tizar Tech: LOL BFF and FML
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tizar Tech: too many acronyms these days.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cmud, #MXP send, any way to not underline on a selective basis?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: to Mush users - i get disconnected after getting idle ofr a long time. Is it the mus client problem or it's the im disapearing into the void?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well.. i got work todo... turned off underline MXP... just gotta add <u> tags where i DO want em
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is there an easy way to run to an area using the mapper?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: winklewinkle scripts give a command (xrt) which xrt area name (or string in area name) runs there via mappers shortest path (including portals)
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: providing u explored the areas
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: true
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nice, that works, cheers
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: though with a new area, you can recall, rt area, then once there winkle will find path
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, I just wanted to runto areas but use any available portals I had
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nice... apparently CMUD doesn't get along with #'d aliases... 100 -> wield 100weapon ... so i redid it, but am still used to typing 100 or 100d, 140 etc... #ONINPUT solved it, deleted the aliases... kept the syntax :) http://pastebin.com/MmPrqTy3
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: hey is that other mudlet client user on the tech channel? 
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: anyone know what {chan ch=clantalk} appearing before anything on clantalk or similar for ftalk etc is about... never seen this happen before. see nothing in my settings under a find... only turned on my client and now i see that.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: those are the tags that TAGS CHANNELS ON enables.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: bet, thank u that helped.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they were there to make triggering on channel messaging easier and more accurate, but they've since been replaced with the more modern GMCP system.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: if u use mush client does it automatically turn those on or something. i played with it for first time ever earlier today wondering if that did it
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mush plugins tend to enforce the config settings said plugins deem important to their purposes.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: ok cool, thanks hans
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they usually aren't smart about it, however, so they don't don't turn them off or otherwise revert them to their original values.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: yea, i played with it... like my cmud more...
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: hey, so my cat lays on my keyboard when im sleeping, and he made it so when i toggle capslock it beeps, i need that beep gone. lol
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prattler Tech: you could plug the keyboard off
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i use a lap top.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: my cat lays on my keyboard when im sleeping, and he made it so when i toggle capslock it beeps, i need that beep gone. any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's probably a windows sound option.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: since it's a cat, tough, it's quite possible he's deliberately trying to mess with your mind.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: im not sure. i know my house gets chilly, computers warm, but ya, cats will fuck with ya.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: watch the language, tech's not a curse venue.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: sorry, i forgot cant use a casuak curse word on public channel
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: is there somewhere that tells u what all mushclient adjusts... it screwed up my settings.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: type TAGS
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you then find the option in the list you want to change and then either type TAG option ON or TAG option OFF, as needed.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: other than statmon and invmon, I believe that's the only way {tagstuff} is toggled.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: yeah but i feel like that is corrected and im still having issues
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Neravar Tech: cant find the triggers window in the aardmush, anyone know where its at
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well this is bull and whoever created mush, sucks, thanks for screwing up all of my settings up and putting me to the point that i am just done
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...what settings did it screw up?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mush doesn't mess with cmud scripts.  All it affects is aardwolf game features.  TAGS, for instance.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cel.. what is the problem you're even having
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: worked fine this morning... used mush
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: switched back to cmud and none of my stuff works
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: what stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...so if it's "your stuff", you know what it depends on, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: my mapper any scripts i have, everything
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: yeah and i can't see what is diff at this point
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cel.. so it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about =p
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: What isn't working, specifically?  Is the mapper a GMCP mapper?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well maybe im a moron but think if they are going to change things then they should be responsible for telling u what they are changing first.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cel... did you write the cmud triggers? Or are you using a package someone else distributed
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: it is majority of my stuff. i know there are few small things of others, but this is my own stuff mainly
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So cel.. What are you triggering off of? specifically the stuff thats not working
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: my spellup script doesn't work anymore
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So when you send in your GMCP telopts, are you sending that you want the room stuff?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Cel... what isn't working? its nto casting? It's not recocnizing when spells fall off?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: it pulls in all spells i want, checks what is currently already casted and should cast, it does 1 or 2 and then gets stuck
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: is it using saff to see whats already cast?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: "stuck" how?  You fail to cast something, then it doesn't recast?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't need to do that Ped.  GMCP is negotiated automatically when you connect, and the room info is automatically parsed from the sent gmcp info.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: and when i do figure out how to fix something... if i close and come back in, its messed up again and not nece same way
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Not if the MUD thinks you don't *want* the room info
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: this is assuming Cel is using GMCP anyway
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: not that it won't cast a recast, it should do all of the spells in list but it hangs up and doesn't do em all, just stops
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i am using gmcp
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in ALL instances of actual movement, GMCP info is sent without asking for it.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Can you determine a precipitating event?  Something that causes it to stop casting?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: nope, i can't
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: cel.. you're going to have a hard time getting help like that, I think
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: more curious on why my map thing is doing nothing
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: well thats fine, im just frustrated and ticked off that i ever tested out the mushclient now
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what are your map preferences set to?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: let me check
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Cel - type 'protocols gmcp' to see what GMCP data the mud is sending you
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: char, comm, core, room
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: group is also a package, you may want to add it at some point.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So you're going to be receiving room GMCP info...now we need to get into specifics of *how* it's not working.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: i have my mapper window, it moves as i move.... its not moving anywhere
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: how are your maptags in config all?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So look for the triggers that you're using to place yourself in the appropriate rooms
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone here develop(ed) android apps ? Is there a third-party service (similar to GameSalad) that helps create simple, text-driven apps?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Define 'text-driven'?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there shouldn't be any triggers to place you in rooms.  GMCP makes mapping all but error-free in CMud.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Celestria Tech: where are u lookin cheez
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Menu selection brings up a page of text, back button to return to menu...With the text either coded into the app or dynamically pulled from a website...?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Not familiar with anything that would do that out of the box, but I'm only starting on android development
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm, how do you unhide columns in Excel 2010?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: select the columns before and after, right click, unhide
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, unhide is grayed out. I selected columns I and L so I can unhide J and K. :\
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: etz.. did you use shift to multi select? or ctrl
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hmm.. was it a click and drag?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Was click and drag, yes.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ctrl+click didn't help, either.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: i was goign to suggest using shift if you used control =p
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is it actually hidden? could just have very small width?  try the column width when you have j through l selected?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's actually hidden. I hid the columns, thinking I was done with them, but came to find out one of the formulas has an error in it I need to access to fix.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: on a slightly outdated version myself, but can you go to one of the cells by typing it K1 (or whatever) into the "name box" (the thing at the upper-left corner that has the cell reference in it), then format > column > unhide
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm a dolt, I think. It might help to unlock the cells first, maybe?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye giggles.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But, there's probably a better way to do this formula.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right now, J is: IF(F2>A2,true,false) and K is IF(F2<B2,true,false) JUST so I can get this formula: IF(J2+K2=2,use this,use that)
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I previously had it as: IF(F2>A2 AND F2<B2,use this, use that), but... it came back with a NAME error.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though now I think I about it... hmm.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: IF(AND(F2>A2,F2<B2),use this,use that)
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah. I just realized the usage of AND was incorrect, *sigh*
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: suddenly my minimap on the android app is pre/post-ceded by <MAPSTART> and <MAPEND> everytime it loads. I did install Winkle's quest and campaign tracker on laptop mushclient earlier, could that be causing this? and can i fix it?
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tags maptags off
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Nod, type tags and take the ones off that you don't need.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: perfect. thanks so much
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can also toggle the universal tag setting via TAGS OFF, which overrides any tag setting currently in the on position.
T3/r7/2012-10-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is there anyway in mush to check latency ?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: so i'm looking at download the aard client - i'm a mac use though. i'd need wine right/ 
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shaelynne.. assumedly yes. It doesn't run natively on mac os.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: right, i know that mudlet has a package and that's what i'm using right now, but i can't get all the features to work 
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Wine is probably your best bet.. or paralells or something. I'm not too well versed on macs unfortunately
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rollindie Tech: something you could do, though it costs money, is get VM ware fusion for your mac and run a windows OS in it
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rollindie Tech: that si what i am doing
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rollindie Tech: it is nice incase you ever have programs that won't work on mac
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shaelynne: on fiendish's site (the official site for the aard mushclient package), there's a great wiki with FAQ stuff...one of the main ones covers running it on Macs and Linux using wine...it even includes a download to a wine .dmg
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i ripped apart a busted up imac today... got a 3.06 core 2 duo out of it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: ive got sixth attack but im only attacking 2 times and now and then 3 times
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: increasing your dex helps, also look at dtrack hits
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: and make sure you have it practiced :D
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: having sixth attack skill does not guarantee six attacks
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: uhmm ive only used first attck ,second and fith and does it have anything 2 do with dual
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I believe it also has to do with the stats of the mob you're attacking.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: each attack skill is independant of each other... just make sure you have them practiced, and increasing dex will improve the chance of firing the nth attack
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: oky the are practised but i dont really practise dex
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: they*
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You should, it's the second most important stat for a warrior imho
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: ooo i always tra str and con
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: I did my first mort too, but you don't need much con, since you can just quaff tons.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I cap con at 131, but go up to 201 with str and dex
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: oky 
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: my str is 174 my dex is 92 my con is 176
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Murphisto Tech: with higher dex, not only will you hit more, you will get hit less, so pumping dex instead of con won't impact your surviability as much as you would think either.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cjwally Tech: oky i will tra dex from now on :) thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Anyone know if getting started with android development is easy or hard? Assuming you know how to code, of course.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: easy
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Pondering if I should give it a go...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ranrr... No first had experience - but I hear its pretty easy.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: go for it Rann!
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: especially when you know java
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nod. Theres also a package that allows you to compile C# code for android/iphone
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Only done a little java though, but how hard can it be :D
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm from the C generation, not the java
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well, keep in mind, theres a whole new API to learn for android as well.. so its not JUST java
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Where should I go to get started? developer.android.com or somewhere else?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I hear googles own documentation is pretty good.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so probably a good place to start
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok, I'll give it a go.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://programming-motherfucker.com/become.html#Java some free java references as well.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I started to mess with android about month ago. Basic is easy, but threads can get messy after a while
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Threads in java are messy, I've had some experience with them. Extra messy when you don't really have much experience with the language...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I had some small java experience, but nothing major, and many years out of date - last I did something it was in java 1.3
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: don't worry, it's all backwards compatible... forever :<
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: threads don't have to be messy, but the whole "must post to UI thread" in android takes some time to get used to
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birlan Tech: my keyboard layout suddenly changed - how can i change it back? Im using the client on linux with wine
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Where else did your layout change? Try opening a terminal, etc.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birlan Tech: its only ingame, everywhere else its normal
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birlan Tech: still cant find a way to change it but whatever. Is there a way to set up a macro so that ctrl+up results in walking north?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birlan Tech: and all of a sudden it works again :)
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone here using windows 8 transformation pack?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Odd. Have you found the cause of the problem? If it was only in WINE, check your settings there..
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: which problem? the one that shows nothing on desktop?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Birlan Tech: the changed keyboard layout. 'did you try turning it off and on again?' always works, to quote a qutie funny series
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: so nobody uses windows 8 transformation pack? or can anyone help?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: all windoz users are probably still on XP
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: 7
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: arr! anyone know where can i get .net framework 4?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=.net+framework+4
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Heck, I'd even press "I'm feeling lucky"
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: befoqe i get there, how much mb is it?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Electrobite looks at Jhav and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: ...man im heavy behind, where do i get a WIC file? i need it to continue installation 
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone know how can i improve my visual or set it on my pc? my pc is a bit blurish
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: try changing resolutions
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: tried that
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: laptop or desktop?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: desktop
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: do you have another display to try?  It might be going out
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: did you try hitting the AUTO button on your display to let ie auto adjust itself?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: do you have a radio or something like that next to your monitor?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ViolentJ Tech: on setting color syntax on cmud, you put in the letters for each color and in the boxes to the right I put @f in one of them, which one and what do I put in others?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sec... ill screenshot
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ViolentJ Tech: ty
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://i.imgur.com/3eM1s.png same for zmud & cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ViolentJ Tech: ty
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #ALIAS colorcopy {#IF (%1 = "on") {#CALL %pref(ColorSyntax,1)} {#CALL %pref(ColorSyntax,0)}} "System"
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: colorcopy <on|off>
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ViolentJ Tech: what does that do exactly? I got it to work with the screen shot :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that turns it on and off
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ViolentJ Tech: oh neat
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ViolentJ Tech: ty again
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wanted that in zmud forever :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #HELP    <--- TONS of crap is settable with it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #HELP %pref   <--- TONS of crap is settable with it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i shuold write a color syntax enable script :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all are settable from a cript now :) colstxFore0  colstxFore1  colstxFore2  colstxFore3  colstxFore4  colstxFore5  colstxFore6  colstxFore7  colstxFore8  colstxFore9  colstxFore10 etc
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: any mush scripts that capture notes and/or room descs?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: keep in mind that %pref() is an old (in terms of CMud) feature that wasn't really updated as new stuff went in.  Some of it's options are holdovers from ZMud or otherwise don't work/got changed/were never implemented.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #ALIAS setcolorsyntax {#SHOW {Color Syntax set and enabled!};#CALL %pref(colstxFore1,b);#CALL %pref(colstxFore2,g);#CALL %pref(colstxFore3,c);#CALL %pref(colstxFore4,r);#CALL %pref(colstxFore5,m);#CALL %pref(colstxFore6,y);#CALL %pref(colstxFore7,w);#CALL %pref(colstxFore8,D);#CALL %pref(colstxFore9,B);#CALL %pref(colstxFore10,G);#CALL %pref(colstxFore11,C);#CALL %pref(colstxFore12,R);#CALL %pref(colstxFore13,M);#CALL %pref(colstxFore14,Y);#CALL %pref(colstxFore15,W);#CALL %pref(colsyxFore,~@D);#UNALIAS setcolorsyntax;#CALL %pref(ColorSyntax,1)}
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor freaks out, screaming "Oh My Bot!"
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The heck?!
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: whoah i thought my bot broke :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: alias sets and enables color syntax in cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: your bot?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: scripts...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why are you using #UNALIAS?  The #UN commands are really slow.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's one alias.. cant be THAT slow :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikkio Tech: i want Aardwolf plugins for mushcclient
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: on run it shows: Color Syntax set and enabled! Alias setcolorsyntax removed.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: install mush, then
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mush comes prepackaged with all kinds of aardwolf plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: yeah mushclient has all plugings for aardwolf you need
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mush or aardmush?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well aardmush does
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: both :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: the mapper is a must have
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at Zubol.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: and the winkle winkle scripts also
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: albeit the regular mush probably comes with the old set.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at Zubol.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: if you need anything else you can easily build it by borrowing code from the mapper scripts
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush is easy to transfer too
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikkio Tech: where is it plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just swapped hd's reinstalled win 7, copied mush dor over and everything works fine
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i'm busy coding a equipment script for my char. i can add my eq in a database and the script will automatically wear all equip i want to use at a lvl when i lvl
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: dor = fir
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: dir*
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikkio Tech: where is it plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: why not just run it off the thumb drive?  Won't ever have to move mush again, except to plug/unplug the thumb drive.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what kind of  plugins?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: makes my live easier and i don't have to remember in what bag an item is and when i want to use it
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: yeah i have mush on a usb stick. can take it to nay computer
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nikkio Tech: where is Aardwolf plugins for mushcclient
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: they are packaged already if you download mush from the aardwolf website
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: again .. what kind of plugins are you looking for?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just go to aard's site and download mush from there
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hey Hanslanda... school me.. what to use besides #UNALIAS?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #T+ and #T-.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: creation/destruction causes a filewrite, as settings (like rooms in the mapper) are written to file immediately.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: enable/disable just changes stuff in the in-memory database, so naturally it's much faster.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: grrr managed to get my S&D window stuck off the screen again, anyone know the command to reset windows in aard client?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: i was referred to this channel to ask about help getting an mccp client working
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What client are you using?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: Gmud
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Did they give you a ticket number?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: i've got an external mccp client that i got from aard's site but i think the port number is outdated
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: lol, no.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Phazer - if you are new here, have you tried out Mushclient, the one downloadable from the Aardwolf website....
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: You'll have to submit a ticket through the web interface, Phazer
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: you dont need a ticket phazer, there is no web interface
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: no. is it freeware?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Have you tried the directions in 'help mccp proxy'?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: nod, i couldn't connect that way
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: hmm, let me try it again
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I recall hearing the proxy didn't work anymore, but really don't use it so don't know for sure.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: no idea if it still works or not
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: well it's still set up for aardmud.org but it's for port 4010
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: 4010 should be fine
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: sure, i'll try it out...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: You have compression (mccp v86) on.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Hey, quick question, i'm trying to copy and paste an item detail into M$ word but of course the font screws up the spacing, anyone know of an even space font i could try so as to tidy up the spacing issue
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Courier New
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm partial to mudding with wingdings myself
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: thanks (sorry for the delay but slow spellup time (-8)
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: imma try that :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ouch :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: webdings is more fun :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Saffron n Lemon Tech: anyone know how you make the keypad onva droid phone bigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I have windows 7, and am trying to format a word document so that I can place a picture in the document and have the text mold around it, justifying itself as it goes. Like a newspaper. I'm not looking to just insert the picture in between two lines, but to actually have text running down the left side of the page while the picture is on the right
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Can anyone help?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: What version of word?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: I have windows 7
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: so that version I guess
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: 2010
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-wrap-text-around-a-graphic-in-word-2010.html
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: That was the first link Google returned for "text wrap around an image in word 2010"
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Shhh - don't people tech support secrets!!
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also dont leave words
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: out
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You're too kind. I would have given him the lmgtfy link.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: don't leave words?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: It worked, Riddim. Thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tip.. [21 Oct 16:55:45] Mendaloth Tech: Shhh - don't people tech support secrets!!
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: Mush, is there a way to send a trigger message, like 'quest time', to my comm window without using an aard channel? Someday my spouse might come back :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/ChannelCapture#Send_your_own_custom_lines_to_the_log_window
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: was is the command to get bast spellup plugin to show again if it's not visible?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: err what is...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Have you tried turning Mushclient on and off again?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: heh, thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you forgot to ask if mush was open and connected first.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: i know there's a command though without restarting, just couldnt remember it
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's probably even a help command.  You know, to help you remember this sort of stuff.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: there's also probably a way to turn off channels if you dont like people using them for what they are intended
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I don't use Bast's spell up plugin anymore, but i remember if oyu type in an invalid command it'll show you all the available commands.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If you have his miniwindow controller window set up, you can click on spell-up there, as well.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so far I've definitively seen items that are set to a single level and items that can range from +2 to -3 of what their actual level is (as specified on the builder website).  Can items be given a smaller range, and is that typically done?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Is there a file I can manualy edit for my mapper portals list?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's all in a database, which you can explore, but I'd advise doing it very lightly and only when Mush is closed.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RightOn Rithlin nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is there a reason you want to do this manually in the database?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: For some reason I can't add new portals.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you trying?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Trying to add a new portal.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, but what are you typing?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: mapper portal (name)
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Then I enter the lvl and it doesn't appear in the list.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: This is what it shows: talsa - 26917 - 62
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ohhh that
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type checkversion please
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: r1693
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, there was a bug in 1693, I accidentally left in some debug lines that broke mapper portal
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1700 has that fixed
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: how to search for substrings of mob names on duckbat?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: hehe ok :P
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Guess I'll update, thanks...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, sorry again
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably just don't use quotes, Red.  If you use quotes, it looks for exact matches; no quotes means it uses wildcarding on either side of what you typed.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: huh, sac value is equal to the total levels of all the items of a given item instance (ie, 2 * a stone hammer) divided by 2, rounded down, so long as the item has a worth greater than 0?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: think it's rounded up, and capped at worth of item
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: huh, okay, rounded down
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and autioned items have a sac value of 3, I think
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: auctioned
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is that individual worth, or combined worth?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: like, if an item has a worth of 2 and the level spread for 2 items is 13, does that mean I'd get 2 for both, or would it be 4 (cap of 2 times 2 items)?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I think it's calculated individually
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you can test this...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't think I've come across any items yet that would hit the cap, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so only got as far as level / 2 rounded down.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I did when I was a newbie and curious. Then I realised the amount of gold is so small as to be more or less irrelevant.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but I'm almost bored enough to devour my toes.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, there are some items with low worth and high level...
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: go level!
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: cp level or something. You can buy level 1 aard from people like me anyway.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nah, it's bot-building time.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Sonshis are like Questors?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I have stock level 1 aard I can sell. Lots of people do
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you just have to ask people who are about to remort.
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: hey, how do i change my background on the main window in the aard client?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: which aard client?
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: the mush one
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_remove_or_change_the_Aardwolf_logo_background_image_in
T3/r7/2012-10-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: bingo, thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: So... having a problem trying to reinstall windows.  The keyboard only works in safemode, so I can't hit enter when I boot from cd to start windows setup.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Have a spare keyboard anywhere?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: try a ps2 keyboard
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Yeah, I've tried multiple
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: There's no ps/2 port on the computer =/
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: pop hard drive into another computer?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: That sounds like so much effort
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: kick it?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bios setting maybe?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: There's an error that says uh
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: True - can you go into the BIOS settings, or is that screwy, too?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you'd think if they ditch the ps2 port they'd add support for usb keyboard in the bios
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: "Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware because a previous instance of the device driver is still in memory"
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: shutdown and remove memory?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I have no idea what you're talking about
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: although you wouldn't think that would persist
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ram
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I'm pretty stupid when it comes to computers, so any solution that doesn't involve opening it up is preferred
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ram requires opening
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is it a laptop or a desktop?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: desktop
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i spose what with the keyboard and all
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Solarpower Inicus snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So can you go into the BIOS settings when the computer boots up, and navigate through the menus?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It's just when windows actually loads, it stops working
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Is the CDROM the first boot device?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Just a sec, let me get to it
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: legacy usb support on?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I've already been able to boot from cd if that's what you're getting at Pedwiddle
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It just gets to a point where the keyboard stops working, and it requires me to hit enter to continue with troubleshooting
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no mouse either?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: The mouse works fine
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It's just any keyboard I've used has issues
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Although they work fine in my other computer
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: issues?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: The issues of not working =p
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just installing?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or not working at all
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It doesn't work at all unless I'm in safemode
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: can you uninstall drivers for keyboard from safemode?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It works up until it loads windows so I can access the boot menu, but after it loads everything and starts the windows reinstallation it stops working
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: So you boot from CD, but can't actually get to the point of reinstalling windows?  Or is the error happening during the reinstallation process?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I already uninstalled the driver in safemode
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Pedwiddle, it gets to the point where it requires me to hit enter to install, but the keyboard stops working at that point
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: what version of windows are you installing?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tech left click?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: xp
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: there's no mouse at that screen
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah no mouse either fun
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is it a burnt cd you are using to install with?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and if ya have a ps/2 mouse it will work at that screen :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I mean, the mouse works fine.  Just no mouse at that part... still looks like the boot menu screen
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Vorpes, no
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or serial, heh
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not sure. best bet would be popping the hard drive into another computer. good luck though
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is there a way to search an sqlite text field for any number? dunno the number i would be looking for, but would want to see the rows where the field has a number
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: select * from blo where field LIKE '%0%' or where field LIKE '%1%', assuming you're using binary numbers :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not binary
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: need like \d+
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Well, then extend to contain other digits
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: just add the remaining 8 cases.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can also do select * from db where field REGEX 'foo'
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, that's possible? Is it sqlite or standard SQL?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err table not db, but yeah,regexp is a function
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so where blah like '%\d+%' ?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sqlite has regexp func
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sqlite
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.sqlite.org/lang_expr.html :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wierd... been getting connection reset on sqlite.org
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm.. no such function: REGEXP
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: SELECT * FROM mob WHERE note REGEXP '.*\d+.*' ORDER BY id ASC
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: REGEXP calls a user defined function which must first be defined and loaded into the the database.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that went over my head :(
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.villageinstruments.com/tiki-index.php?page=ViDock anyone familiar with these at all? Adapter to connect pci-ex video cards up to a laptop
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sorry ozzy, a quick google showed the existence of the REGEXP syntax in sqlite, but as you noticed, it's kind of a shell in the stock distro...you can add the functionality, probably with a .dll on windows, or can install sqlite3-pcre on linux (and then .load /path/to/sqlite3/pcre.so...I use mysql and MS SQL, and only browse the included MUSHclient db file in sqlite occasionally...both of those DBs do support regex calls natively
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: is there a way to auto-align the miniwins in aardmushclient?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: is there an issue with using bast's plugins on fiendish's aard client? my miniwin plugins dont load up properly and i have to reinstall for them to appear.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone know how to configure the visual for rugby 08 on pc?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Electrobite goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is there a client for Windows 98?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: zmud
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: thanks, I'll try that
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: to use the v7.x zmud, you require to download and install a few updates
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: damn, it costs $34.95!
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: hrm, cheap
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: version 3.62 is free
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: if you are poor or cheap and or like (buggy) shareware that is no longer maintained, use the 32bit v4.62 zmud
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I'll try that first
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the v4.62 32-bit (avoid the 16-bit 4.62) is superior to the v3.62
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: okay, thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: and the v7.x zmud is far superior to the v4.62
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: turn off autosave and autobackup with v4.62 -- manual saves only, or you be sorry when something goes wrong clears ewverything and autosaves
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: autosave is not your friend after a bad change that wrecks or clears erases settings and scripts (especially the "setting new" in the menu) 
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: also don't swap the ram in your system without a proper shutdown... i did and it forced windows to restore and i lost a weeks worth of scripting/mapping :(
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using zmud 3.62 ?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to my knowledge, only as a translation system for map files ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I just tried it and it doesn't work
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, "I just tried 15 year old abandoned software and it doesn't work on my new system"
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: my system is not new
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: why do you think I play a text-based game?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: which system and OS
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's new compared to a 1996 software release
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: windows xp
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but I want to try out a windows 98 PC
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you download the 16 or 32 bit version?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: 16
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I need 32 bit  version?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: verify that you dowloaded te 32-bit v4.62 -- some websites advertise the 32-bit but supply the 16-bit v4.62 zmud 
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, are you using 3.62 or 3.62a?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 16 bit is for windiws 3.1 :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mmm, windows 3.1
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: good old days
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: 3.62
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ozzy's got lots of old Zmuds available at http://www.conradshome.com/zmud/
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: from this website http://forums.zuggsoft.com/index.php?page=4&action=file&file_id=18
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: wait, I think I understand now
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even the latest version of MUSHclient works back to Win95
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: they assumed that the 16-bit v4.62 runs on a 32-bit system such as Win98e, and mislabelled the 16-bit version as 32-bit
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I tried MUSHclient 4.75...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it didn't work
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost shrugs in response to Trachx's question.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: the 32-bit v4.62 rarely crashes, the 16-bit v4.62 is crash-happy (on a Win 98e system) 
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is 4.62 free?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: on the website, only 3.62 seems to be free
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: almost free -- once a month you restart the evaluation
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyway, I'm certainly not gonna buy software when I'm not even sure that it will work
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I shall try 3.62 and see how it goes
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 3.62a...use a
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'd be more inclined to getting mush working
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have just ordered some more RAM so that may help
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, "getting mush working" involves merely downloading and unzipping it :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: didn't work though
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: doubt that anubody is able to pay to get the v4.62 registration-key -- likely must buy the 7.x registration and use the applicable v7.x version
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mushclient 4.81 works under Windows XP (at least in XP mode)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient 4.84 works on windows 95
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is there a minimum RAM requirement?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I only have 128 MB
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: win xp on 128 mb ?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: disable things like the mapper plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no, Windows 98
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have enough swap there should be no problem with running mush (though, you cannot use more demanging plugins)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have just ordered another 256 MB RAM
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: will that help?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Won't hurt, just make sure your motherboard supports it
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: does mushclient require the extra software that zmud requires to run properly on Win 98e
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and of course I used a computer with 64MB RAM for years to have both me and my wife on aard 24/7 with buttloads of trigs, no issues with performance...but my OS was NetBSD and my client is tinyfugue :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was using that as my primary MUD computer until earlier this year
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you finally upgraded?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NIC finally died in it, and I dunno where the PCI/ISA riser card is...haven't run it with the PCMCIA reader or vid card in like a decade
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so now it's serial console only, and I'm using a virtual colo
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: zmud v7.x requires MDAC (from microsoft fom a non-microsoft site since microsoft no longer supports Win 98)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: MDAC permits multiple timers so that multiple zmud/cmud triggers may run concurrently
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and that was the upgraded version...I originally used an AlphaStation 200 4/166MHz...5 years ago I upgraded to a 200 4/233MHz...I could bring that one up from the basement to get the other one working again ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: why do you keep em?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: to get a reliable MDAC system seems to be installing MDAC 2.8 first, followed by installing the Jet 4.0 OLEDB files
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, I was still using the primary one until this year...the other one was thrown in the basement when I got the "new" one as a parts machine
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So ... I made myself a 'detached HEAD' in git. How do I fix that?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds painful
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Poor git with a detached head is crying now.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i was going to order more ram for an old machine, then realised that the older machine may not handle the extra ram -- and maybe a new machine with more ram is cheaper
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am using Zmud 3.62 on Windows 98
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is it possible to bring up separate chat & map windows?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If by "bring up", you mean "write a script that does it", then probably.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: is there an old version of MUSH client that works on Windows 98?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I would try current version first
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Why windows 98?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Windows 3.11 for Workgroups is where it's at!!!!
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: On the aard blowtorch client, im trying to set up triggers..i have 3 options for types of triggers. "notification" "toast message" "ack with" what are the differences, 
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: ack sends to the mud, I believe.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: notification sends a droid notification, I think
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not sure about the other one
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I thought they had one for a popup
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: ok thanks :) ill just experiment
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that might be the other one
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: how can i put a blank article on blowtorch? thought it was * but i guess not :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Use regex to capture stuff inside parentheses, and then use $1, $2, etc. to referenced the captured stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So (.*) would be equivalent to * in mush
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: ahhhh ok thank you :) and then dollar signs instead of parenthesis.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Djcndo Tech: my mush client is very much slow tonight what's wrong plaese  help
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: try closing and restarting ?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Djcndo Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Djcndo Tech: it is still slow 
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Djcndo Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravyn Tech: ok so I use MUSHclient once and then return to tintin and now all my channel sendings are prefixxed and my room changes have a coordinate report.  how can I undo those
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravyn Tech: anyone know what is making these <mapend> statements in tintin
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: maptags
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravyn Tech: excellent what about channel tags
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ravyn Tech: help for the win.  I am good, thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 'tags' displays a list of what tags you have on and off, should be able to just 'tags channels off' to turn them off
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: see help tags
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: anyone know anything about rooting android?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yakov Tech: yes, I know something
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: i have an lg optimus s i think does it matter which gui install i use
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: also how can i tell which lg optimus i have
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: anyone on can help me with a goo installer for rooting my phone?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: hahahaha i have succeded in rooting my phone
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: grats
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Smasung?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: no lg optimus 
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: it sucks
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: now i have mada use out of it lol
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: wow downloading through hotspot and 3g is slow....
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone ever have any luck at all with a windows upgrade of any kind?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: anyone out there know of a good app that gives your phone hotspot capabilities for free
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: anyone use a nostromo profile for this? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: anyone have any ideas why trigger sounds work then all of a sudden stop working in the same session, only thing i can think of to fix is reboot (which works) .. not running any other apps or anything
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: this is in MUSH btw
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cheapo sound card?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: ermm
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: sound card should make no difference, never had this problem before
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: WMP still plays fine
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: so does stuff in audacity
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah could be the way mush plays sounds...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you have the latest mush build?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: causing some sort of overrun maybe
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: not sure, what's latest?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no idea it should check each time you log in though i think
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: i'm using 4.81
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: which would be more likely on a cheap sound card...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: hmmmm
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: playing wav files?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: in mp yeah sure
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: wmp even
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: they work after reboot in MUSH too
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: for about 5 minutes
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah makes me think it's some sort of buffer problem... try updating sound driver?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: log off windows doesn't fix it? need full reboot?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: not sure.. let me try that
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: logging off and on seems to work, hope i dont get this issue again as it's highly irritating
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: That probably means some process running is causing the issue.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If you have a process related to your sound driver running, try killing and restarting just that next time.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: any regex guru can match: "bash             :     7    pierce           :     7 " OR "disease          :  -160    " and put pairs in variables?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: You can't match that in zscript then covert?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dunno how to match both in one trig
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: use |
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: one sec Ill match it
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: numbers all that change Ozzy? or words too?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: words too
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: lol, so you need every damtype verb in your trigger? want us to do your laundry and wash your dishes too? :)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: heh yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Its not really that easy, I mean it is, but to make it 'right' it takes a lot of testing and whatifs
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont need words IN the match... regex can easily handle with \w+
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: not to mention you'll need to enable/disable to keep it from triggering off shit you don't need.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher :likes sammich's
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumpy Old Oladon Tech: Language...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: add take to that word and it's ok :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i got the enable/disable handled
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumpy Old Oladon Tech: Except that this isn't the cooking channel.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: shishkabob?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh sorry, Ill use poo next time so noone gets their feelings hurt.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ^(?:(\w+)\s+:\s+(\S+)\s+(\w+)\s+:\s+(\S+)\s+|(\w+)\s+:\s+(\S+)\s+)?$   ... dunno if the best way, but it works
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you can match both in one trigger in CMud.  Can also just match one and have it applied to all occurrances on the line.  Regex isn't even needed.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: when i turn off mobsay in comm log (aardmush) i still get spammed with mob's saying junk?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yes.  GMCP does not in any way mess with the visible text.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's mobsay for then?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: What mob, for example?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: smiling receptionist in bonds
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in the case of channels, tells, and player says, you have a handy {tag} in front that makes matching those lines exceptionally easy, allowing for scripts like the comm log to also gag them.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hanslanda: there's a configure option in AardMUSH to change what gets captured in the comm log
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: he's wondering why certain stuff is still being captured after he toggles one of those config options
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wheee.... Resist   : bash:160|pierce:-20|cold:32|fire:-160|light:160
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher is sick to death of spammy goal mobs
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Works fine for me.  If I turn off mobsays, the stuff from the bonds receptionist doesn't show up in the comm log anymore.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You right-clicking in the comm window, and going to customize channels?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tried that
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and it's not comm log i don't want it in
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: (it's currently not there...)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: so, wait...you don't want it in either spot?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't want it echo'd in the main window
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you need to trigger on the mobsay line format.  There's no tag in front of those lines like there is for a player say.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how does mush capture them then?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: GMCP.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm wonder why the option is there if it don't work :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Doesn't look like you can turn it off in both.  He probably didn't think anyone would actually want to.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hanslanda: mobsay covers both regular mob says, and mprog says
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It just doesn't allow you to turn it off in both places at the same time, it seems.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I know, but he's wanting to gag the non-GMCP version.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah you can with all the other channels...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No you can't
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: channels that you can turn off anyways, heh
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have q/a turned off in both spots right now.  Still shows up in main window
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If it turn it back on in the comm log, it doesn't show it in the main window anymore
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i was missing some stuff for awhile, had to turn echo'ing in main
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the only way to do so is to write a trigger on the SAY line format that accounts for player says as well.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hanslanda: the fact that it's mob says has nothing to do with anything
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's the same for every single channel
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it's not.  {channel chan=word}, {tell}, {say}, (mobsays don't have this type of tag).
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well they should :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And yet, if I turn off capturing into the comm window, it doesn't show up there anymore
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And when I turn it back on, it comes back on
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: same with channels
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i know, weird
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's not weird
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i meant about mobsay
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's nothing special about the config option for mobsay.  It acts exactly the same as every other config
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can have it show up in the main window, or in the comm window, or in both
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Not in neither
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher sighs.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'll just ask fiend when he's around
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: thanks for the time wasting, Leinei.  Since you didn't pick up on it, he was asking about the neither option.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And I'm answering it
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It doesn't exist
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for channels, for mobsays, for anything
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: sorry if answering his exact question is wasting his time
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: turn off answer in comm capture.  then turn it off in the main window.  It's still going to show up in the main window
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: whis is exactly what he says is happening with mobsays
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: apparently i can block tech from appearing in either window
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: as i can't see this
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: test
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My bad, you're right.  I didn't realize question and answer had different tags
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: And that you could capture one in the comm window without capturing the other
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: how much of a resist is worth tracking? 5? 50? 100? 150?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: slash:8|acid:6|air:-2 ... does that low even make a difference?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: where would you cap it +/-?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what kind of tracking?  Like for item identification?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'd say go at least jumps of 10... maybe 25?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or just general resist info, wherever it appears?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mob resists
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sorry.. long but water looks like the only thing of interest here: 
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: bash:7|pierce:8|slash:8|acid:6|air:-2|cold:6|disease:6|earth:6|energy:6|fire:6|electric:6|magic:6|mental:-2|negative:6|poison:6|shadow:6|sonic:6|water:22
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and even that isn't worth changing a weapon for...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... 100?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i'd 100...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err say, even that's a bit iffy
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: dunno how dam stacks against it, but I already took the time to map out the ascii resist bar ranges further than the much-more-public image from Lasher.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: most ive noticed are like bash:160|pierce:160|slash:160 or more anyways
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: do mobs not have a base of 100 like players do?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: players don't have a base of 100.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher pats Hanslanda on his head.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yeah they do.  Type resists.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: that's the Perm resists
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Bash                0      100      188     288
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: base is race
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: effective base is race + that first 100
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: IIRC, it was originally 0, but then he pretty much just bumped everything up by 100, so that 100 was the new 0, basically
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, been a long time since I looked at that.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a PILE of mobs have 0 +/- to any
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but if mobs have it it's completely hidden from players.  No way to tell, since such a non-zero base would already likely be factored into the damage rolls.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i doubt they do...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ones that have +/- in a lot, generally only have numbers over 100 in a few
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not completely Hans :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: help research... among others
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: heh, I forgot all about the resist bars command
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah apparently -100 is defenseless
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nope, defenseless starts at +9 and includes anything below that.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Don't think I've ever had anything below 0...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Mental    : -105 (Defenseless       ) [------------------------------------]
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: resists bar command?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh.. heh
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, gives you something like [###########----------------------]
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Heh, -105 resist is a 15% increase in damage taken over base.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Electric  :   40 (Slightly Armored  ) [####--------------------------------]
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: -105 total, or -105 from the 100 base?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: total
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: -105
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Also, 100 resist is the baseline, not 0
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so that's really -205?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: 100 is where you start out from.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it then has the race mods applied, followed by gear and spellups.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you graph the resistance vs. damage modifier curve, there is a discontinuity at 100
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no there isn't.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well kinda it lists race vulns first but w/e
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: 100 is 1.0 multiplier, 99 is 1.02 multiplier
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Technically, since resistance values are discrete, there's an incontinuity at every point.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That is irrelevant
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The function is such that modifiers can be calculated for fractional resistance values, but even in doing this, there is a discontinuity at 100.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out the exact function, I just have a graph from -600 to 1000
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess the math is a state secret, this being Iran and North Korea and all
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I went all the way to 2500
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: red-1 to red-5 covers 10 points per unit.  red-6 to yellow-5 covers 20 points each.  As best I can tell, between the actual resists I can get to and the newresistbars.png, each color section covers a range (per unit) equal to 2x the previous color.  red = 10, yellow = 20, gray = 40, etc.  The sixth unit of each color (including green-6, at the very end of the graph) equates to the range of the next color in the bar, so red-6 covers the same number of points as yellow-1.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, are you using that resist bar thing I linked you?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: partially.  That one didn't work for my initial intention (the script was to provide a compressed version of the resist bars so that the graph was just 6 characters long instead of 36), so based on spellups and swapping out gear I was able to get enough actual data mapped out to see a pattern.  Lacking any other data than that png you linked, I was still able to form an agreeable estimate to fill in the spots Lasher didn't include by only showing resist bars in steps of 50.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I suppose it would've been a tad easier if I'd done it a few levels higher, but I think leveling affects the baseline.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: having the baseline move really messes up any ability to swap gear around to focus down on specific resist numbers.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm pretty sure it doesn't
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I tested it at different levels, the damage modifier seems consistent all around
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I don't think it does, either
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It would be nice if this kind of thing were just made public info, I don't see why it has to be a state secret.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's so that we can maintain a reasonable balance of "close enough".
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if everyone could game the system, why have the system at all and the necessary junk/near/junk/not-so-junk stuff to fill it up?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no idea, I phone from a blackberry.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Is there a way to have a trigger not trigger a command but a hotkey?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume you mean in Mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: As in trigger a key on my numpad. (in zMUD)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: make an alias and have both the trigger and hotkey run that
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't directly emulate a keypress in ZMud or CMud.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I think what he wants is a trigger that primes a command for a hotkey to run.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Damn. So... anyone know of any good alias/trigger packages for automatic hunting for zMUD which are anchored? Because my package has to be rewritten from scratch.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out rimso or atreidess sites
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yuna, just go into your triggers, find your hunt triggers, and put a ^ character at the start of the line.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: A bunch of people on gossip told you exactly what you need to do to fix your hunt trigger.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: My triggers were written in a way where that's not possible.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can't just do that for all of them, as the new texts cannot all be anchored that way
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: If you're using zmud, it should be possible
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: starling: using ^ is possible in zmud...for that to actually be a valid trigger is not
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: I didn't say it's impossible in zMUD. I said my current triggers do not work in a way where that's possible. Which is why I'm deleting them and rewriting (or C+P:ing) them from scratch.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess I don't understand the issue here.  If he wants to anchor his hunt triggers to a newline, he should just put ^ at the beginning of the trigger pattern.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he wants to make them unabusable...but a ^ doesn't help when the pattern STARTS with a wildcard, which some of the hunt messages do
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone have a link to Rimso or Artreidess sites? Because I cannot find Rimso on finger and Artreidess' link (in his finger) is dead.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you don't have to write trigger patterns that match text from the start of the line.  While that itself is easily fixed, it's a tad problematic if you don't know the messaging offhand or where to get it.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the quickest/easiest way to make them not abusable is to replace the direction wildcard with (north|south|east|west|up|down)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Which hunt patterns begin with a wildcard?  I don't have any hunt triggers, so I wouldn't know.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Exactly. My triggers start with a wildcard.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rimso = crimson clan
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Thanks.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's no hunt-package on Crimson's site, unless it's NOT under Scripts, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yuna, which patterns begin with wildcards?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I used zmud and currently use cmud, so if you tell me what your patterns are, I should be able to do something
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: The trigger starts with a wildcard because it starts with "<mobname>".
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can you paste the exact pattern?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Adding a ~^ won't stop the wildcard from still allowing the trigger to be abused.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: none of them start with wildcards.  Don't all the hunt messages begin with the word "You" and then vary from that point?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no hans
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: one starts with The trail of...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Starts with: * is %1 from here
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, if you have hunt triggers that start with a wildcard, I think they must be really old triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many of them start with the hunted party's name, which is most-easily handled with a wildcard
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (or just non-anchor)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yeah, none of the triggers in my autohunt script start with a wildcard...
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Abelinc, do something useful and tell me what those patterns are?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: best not to ever use *, then.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Oh yeah. They're, like, 8 years old.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not at the start hans :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: under 26% is the only one that starts with You
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Those are old triggers, then, those hunt messages were changed in v3.  Delete those trigs.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 26-50% starts with There are
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's not true abe
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Wrong, Abe, per usual.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 100% definitely starts with You
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rollindie Tech: everytime i get invited to a group, at least the first time sense i started the mushclient, i get an error. I believe it is an error with the group monitor plugin. i don't really know, well, anyhting about these things, so i was wondering if someone could help me solve it?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and a couple others too
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I have 95% hunt, the message starts "You are confident"
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: There's no way to abuse it if my trigger is: ^You * is %1 of here, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: not ever.  * is safer in ZMud than it is in CMud (in CMud, * = %*, and %* is totally unsafe if you plan on capturing it in ZMud).  But even with jerk players botwrecking you aside, it still leaves you open to imm emoting easily outing you in a botcheck.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Or just a note by anybody.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: ^You are confident that * passed through here, heading {north|south|east|west|up|down}.$
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: the ^ tags to start of line, the $ tags to end of line.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yuna: make it so that the only commands that your trigger can send is n/s/e/w/u/d...either change that %1 to be the n/s/e/w/u/d that I've posted multiple times, or put in conditional of if %1 is north, send north, etc rather than just send %1
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: even in ZMud there are easy ways not including #T-/#T+ to avoid having triggers fire on note text.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the echo command rocks for note reading
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how's that, ozzy?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: My package is supposed to do that. Sometimes it doesn't for some reason. Dunno why. For this instance, the package was active despite me not having activate it.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can also experiment with the wildcard of %t, which is the wildcard for directions.  I never really used it, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i use it to trigger syuff back on after reading notes
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: echo command is great for testing your own triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, you redirect all your triggers to echo when you read notes?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oohhh, I see what you mean...you're tagging notes
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think we've talked about that
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: "From    : %w:" turns off LOTS of classes
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: hopefully lasher'll add prefixes to notes eventually :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: please and thank you on that one!
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, but safe note capture is already easy enough to script.  The only exception is if you go promptless, since there's no unique text you can trust.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: use echo
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: at least in ZMud/CMud, it is.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you don't even need to turn anything off like Ozzy does.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: note ---> ~note;echo unique string
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no prompt needed
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ah, there you go, then.  Only reason to turn anything off would be for performance reasons, then, as there'd be no chance of real messaging to occur.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like leaving some things on... like portal subs... there was a forsale note just recently i neded that for
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: portal subs?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I get a kick of of people's notes where their aliases are subbed at start of lines
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: (KMGH) (170) - pea - autumn - Map of the Woods
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pea?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably an informational thing incorporating db info previously gathered.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: portal eternal autumn
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my alias
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you know there's a leads to line when you identify portals, right? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that requires you to identify it, lots more lines than just the line where you saw it
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: why would i wanna ident em all evry time?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's a horde of capable scripters that Lasher's forever yelling "hey, wait up, guys!"
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, if it's in a forsale note i assume they posted the full id
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: when i "see" a portal.. i know where it goes
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if they posted that, then he prolly wouldn't have said that the sub came in handy
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: topfox posted the paste from "exa bag"
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be handy for seeing auction notices, etc as well...no need to bid # to know whether or not you care
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: forsale... 40112
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i suppose... i just know them by heart :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pick the 3 that aint portals :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in the note?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: diamond belt, bracelet, broom
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: they just stand out to me as they aint subbed
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: chakram, broom, bracelet
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: missed a Diamond Belt of Dre2761ms
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh, diamond belt too... i didn't get up that high :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. stupid parsing
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you said there were 3 so i stopped there :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: anyhow.. i like seeing em subbed with my aliases
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... Vuln     : bash:-160|pierce:-160|slash:-160|water:-160  ... if im only adding data if "val < -100" ... don't really need to include the # huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: could just add Vuln: bash|pierce|slash|water... bad thinking?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you probably want a rating system, since there's no guarantee each resist is going to be vuln at the same level.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im storing resists seperate from vulns
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: this is a per mob thing too
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they are categorically the same, only difference is whether there's a - or not.
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no clue what your talking about :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but say months later you had to look up this mob and all you got back was the word list.  Could you pick out the 200 versus the 104?  Unless that doesn't matter to you, you'd probably normally want to use the weapon that does the most damage, right?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ill leave em... will mainly be searching for LIKE % anyways
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like %word%
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: to see if an area is generally vuln to blah
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher is more concerned with player vulns... was thinking of making a war/who script
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mobs die fast enough as is :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yea... aint thinking of just myself here :P
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: should write it in lua then *inno*
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: write the db in lua? heh... i could care less what people use to access it
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so the other entity is not human?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the other entity?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the thing you're thinking about?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: others... db... i dont care what script they choose to access it with
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: has anyone got the inventory miniwindow nick made working?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you checked out bast's inventory miniwindow and his eqdb?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: no i havent, where can i find them?
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: thank you abelinc. heh he lives kinda near me too lol
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the wiki tab on his site has lots of info on his plugins as well :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: nice, looking for a inv and a campaign mini if i can find them
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast has both of those :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: haha nice. im dling his bashmush.zip and look around the site more.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ok got one bast to work. many are getting errors that i see
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: i had to restart my mush to get errors to stop, after install
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: right now all i have tis the mw event working. put in the fix.xml. the updater isnt working for me either
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bast's stuff, leave the entire "Bast" folder inside your MUSHclient\worlds\plugins folder, and only add them to your MUSHclient one at a time, not en masse
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he has overlapping plugins, ones which do the same thing as others, so adding them all at once would cause conflicts
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ive have only been adding one at a time. just wanted the cp and inventory one to work.but the inv hasnt. stats and settings work
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're starting off with the aardwolf mushclient package, right? (downloaded either directly from aard's website or from http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage)
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: yeah thats what i have
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ok i think i just loaded the wrong xml i think before
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: maybe not. got the mini eq to load..but its not seeing what i have
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ok.. got the things i wanted to work. well see how this goes.. i need a bigger screen now lol
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: sigh, apparently now my sound cuts out silently, I keep missing quests because my quest beeper isn't working.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Piece of crap computers
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Can I just rip the headphone jack out?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher recommends a sledge hammer
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: oh this is pissing me off.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's the freakin headphone jack, it is screwed up.  Do I really have to mail this thing back to the factory for such a stupid fix???
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, depends on if you're willing to take it apart yourself to fix it, potentially voiding the warranty
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyone familiar with SEO. i'm currently modding a page i didn't create and it only uses h2 headings. are h1 better or it'll just "fall back" to h2 when there are no h1 tags used? not sure about that one
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: aardmush: if I use GetVariable in an alias to I have to Send to Script?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Any function call is part of a script, and thus requires a script call
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: aardmush:  why doesn't this work? lvl1bag = GetVariable("lvl1bag")   lvl1light = GetVariable("lvl1light")   Send("take vl1light vl1bag
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: CORRECTED:  aardmush:  why doesn't this work? lvl1bag = GetVariable("lvl1bag")   lvl1light = GetVariable("lvl1light")   Send("take vl1light vl1bag;wear vl1light")  I have set IDs to the variables.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Am I going about this all wrong?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Send("take " .. lvl1bag .. ";" .. lvl1light)
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anything inside quotes is not interpreted as a variable
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Ahh, thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Send("take " .. lvl1bag .. ";wear " .. lvl1light) rather
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ohh... Lua... i reconize that now at least from "playing" with it in cmud :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Of course, the faster way to do that is: take @lvl1light @lvl1bag;wear @lvl1light - send to world, check the expand variables box
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i like that way :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Getvar and setvar are only really necessary if you are performing decisional logic on the alias
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Decisional? I may have meant conditional...
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If I finish this 6 pack today, I am justified in buying a new sort tomorrow - silly drunk logic :D
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Thanks guys, now I have something to get me started
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: For any sort of programming, any level of experience, no matter the language or purpose, I recommend starting here: http://www.khanacademy.org/cs/tutorials/programming-basics
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It will help you over the bigger speed bumps, as well as gear you up for self learning
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm an ol'skool C guy learning Java.  I'm slowly deciding to break down and learn Lua
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok so any idea why take 847043068 884002085
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok so any idea why take 847043068 884002085;wear 847043068 doesn't work but take 847043068 from 884002085;wear 847043068 does?  
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I don't have to use "from" when using keywords
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I think the syntaxes are take x from y, or get x y. Could be wrong though, I only ever use get
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: yeah get works without from
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just looking to make aliases for swapping gear that I can change pieces of gear out later and not have to re-write.  
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm sure I'm not the first  :)
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i only use: get 12345 67890
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Using variables is a good way to do that - for a more advanced system you will want to get into Lua tables, but the simple var setup will work
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Lua tables as in arrays?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Yes and no - Lua arrays are a strange beast - think the Java Collections, but all in 1
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. would be good if i knew what a java collection was :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can use them like an array (but no need to malloc/calloc/free like in C) but you can also use them like a set, map, or list.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They also support native iteration, so you don't need to know what's in them before you can 'do this for all things in the table'
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wouldnt like an sqlite db be good for that as well? that's what i was thinking of doing eventually
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The sqlite db is a good idea as well (getting even more advanced with that) - the result of a select statement on the db will be a table, however :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: true :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would say the natural progression would be variables->serialised table->sqlite db
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: how can i toggle the {stats} tag?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tags stats off
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i was gonna skip the middle step :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: statmon
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: statmon --> You will no longer see tagged stats after each prompt.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: ahh.. statmon worked. thanks.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: i was going through the list of tags and nothing looked like it works for stats. thanks.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ah yes, stats isn't in the ordinary tags list
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aardmush annoyed me doing that automatically :P (my zmud & cmud still use {stats} for now)
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vakieh wonders if a Lua for aardmush public guide for the wiki would be worth it...or would you all start botting *glares
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: another question. i just realised i had a very old version of mush and upgraded. now i have stock mush + bast's plugins. i seem to have some issues saving the miniwins.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: some miniwin (like the map, quest) doesnt load up properly on start
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: is there something im missing out?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: "doesn't load up properly" is rather vague...
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: well, the quest miniwin doesn't seem to load until i go to plugins and reinstall the plugin a few times.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: same goes for events and a few others. i keep having to reinstall all the plugins everytime i load up mush.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: is there a reason 'get vl1light vl1bag;wear vl1light' complains that the container ID isn't here?  if I remove the ';' and make the get and wear 2 different commands, it works.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it chopped off the @
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it says "You don't see a 12345 67890
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: it says "You don't see a 12345 67890;wear here"
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Are you sending to world, or execute?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: world with expand variables on
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ;s are only parsed on execute
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: that was it.  good to know.  thanks again
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Adobe Acrobat 11 shipping? What do we say to Acrobat? Not today.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: is there a command in mush, to refresh all mini-windows? some of my have outdated information showing
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO dbname (a,b,c,d) VALUES (`1`,`2`,`3`,`4`)  <-- is ascii 96 ok to quote values with?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: yes, sometimes, depends on database you are using
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sqlite3 and cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: try it, it's the fastest way :)
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... might as well huh? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: looks like in sqlite you can only quote column names this way
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: seems like every time i try something sql dont like in cmud it crashes though :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: for basic experiments, you don't have to use cmud, use sqlite3.exe
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: basics work in ff plugin... but cmud is wierd with double quotes, commas, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i gotta construct some ugly looking %concat sctring
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: can't help you with cmud itself, only with the sqlite part: SELECT 'asdf' as `column name with spaces` works, SELECT `asdf` does not
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh.. i dont need to quote db or fields..
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO mob (name,level,area,align,roomid,roomname,note,immune,resist,vuln,keywords,areaid) VALUES ("this is, a test of test's","400","Fake Zone","evil","0","Not a room","none","none","pierce:160","fire:100|water:120","test","0");
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that works in an external app
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just trying to get aound the double quotes in the values part :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I realized that, that was just complicated way of saying that ` won't help you here
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: commas and single quotes in the data work with doubles surrounding... but the cmud concat function also uses double quotes... so it gets ugly
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and if i use single quotes around values, i have to make sure i double them inside values :( ... so ugly double quotes it is i guess :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wish \ was an escape :P cmud dont treat it as special
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: jeese that's ugly :P http://pastebin.com/gDRsXa8g
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oops.. mistt te closing )
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... "A doll" ,,, "Dangerous Neighborhood" ... time to clean the db?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Wow, a doll.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: pitbull, gang leader, bruiser... all sill there :P
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: does anyone use the bast map plugin? 
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: He has one?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: yeah. its not the big map. its the ascii map. its not tracking my movement sometimes
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: When you are on runs?  You have maprun on?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: yeah its on
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: it will work sometimes for a bit then it just stops tacking. 
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that comes with the aard MUSHclient, it's not bast's...and the only time it shouldn't track you when you have automap, maprun and tags map on, is if you're in a nomap room
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i turned the aardwolf minimap off.. bast had one in his zip that im using now
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why'd you do that?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: it looks prettier xD
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that'd impossible ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err that's
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i just did a runto baazar.. it tracked me the whole way here.. moved w.. didnt track me once i got here. though the big map does still
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the output of both would be identical, given the same font, but the included one has more functionality and is actually maintained
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol well yeah the map still looks the same. the style and display on basts i like better. there is a Legend button and shows Flags
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's only existed because it's older than the aardwolf mushclient package, so it was filling a need at the time...there's no reason to ever use it currently
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ahh.. yeah im just goign to use the aard one then
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the "?" in the corner of aard's is a popup legend...
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol i know. not like you need a legend after you get used to it all
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i cant seem to turn off the channel/chat echo either. and tags keep turning itsself on
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you want tags on
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: most of your plugins rely on tags being on (including the mini map)
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: well something just broke too lol
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want channel stuff to only be in the captured window and NOT also in the main output, then right-click on the capture window and change options there
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i did do that..its not working lol
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll find that all of the included plugins have right-click options
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's not working, then you've got two plugins doing the same thing,and you're only altering settings of one
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but tags being off would also make it not work
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ok..something really broke. im gettting one error message in my output lol
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: Trigger function "invdata_redirect" not found or had a previous error.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the tags are how it recognizes the channel text in order to stop it from being displayed in the main output
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reload broadcast_invmon
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: that is bast's eqdb plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is used for the disarm plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: nope didnt work
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: im going to kill aard. brb
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: try plugins reload eqdb
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, looks like he's in the middle of splitting plugins...broadcast_invmon is only used for the disarm plugin, while eqdb duplicates everything in it, including using the same function names
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so the invdata_redirect message could be either of those 2 plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: okay thats better
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: aardmush:  how can I find which plugin has a trigger reported in TRACE?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: is there a benefit to opting in the automatic beta updates?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: updates are not automatic
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just get notified when they get released
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: i see, do you have that site please?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WinkleWinkle Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops, mis
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: is it physically possible to order something off Amazon and not have it turn up in a broken or non-working state?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on what and how it was shipped.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: well, some people win in lotto..
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: lottery
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well i've had two faulty guitar hero guitars in a row, and it's getting me seriously pissed
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've never had an issue with something showing up broken from amazon.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: never, EVER buy expensive electronics of any kind if you're going to have it shipped via UPS or Fedex or the USPS.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: especially UPS.  I got to talking with a driver there in the STL area and apparently UPS is a crappy company to work for.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you don't get to choose with UPS
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: err Amaozn
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bollocks, Amazon
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't think i'll bother anymore
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just not worth it
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: hi
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: bother me
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's the chinese at fault
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i used to work at UPS and yes people kick boxes
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda wets his fingers and then sensuously starts pressing Kwerbias's buttons.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: occassionally an entire wall of boxes will fall down too when in a truck. doubt you can specify what type of package you have but if you can specify it as irregular then those get put on last and not stacked in a wall
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: fiendish, how much work would it take to convert your mapper for a diff mud?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: maybe i'll make it my goal to run delivery vans off the road at every opportunity as punishment
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wasn't it Fedex that had that security-cam video of a driver just tossing over a gate like a large-format Sony TV or somesuch?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well it really isn't any one persons fault
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then multiple people will get the blame and my ire
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have heard good things about amazon customer service though have tried them or was it a person you bought it from?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: bought through amazon not from amazon, amazon sell bugger all themselves in this country
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well if you were in MN i would give you my fiances guitar
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i hate that game
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: subcontracting is a legal way to scam people.  You get them to contract through a reputable brand, then you toss the work to retards who completely mess it up.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well it just reinforces what i already know, which is that the world is gone to shit because it's full of incompetent arses who can't do their job properly
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: turning the world into an uninhabitable glassy plain would be too good for them
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: would make it harder to get your fake guitars shipped to your door in an unbroken/operational state
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wouldn't care at that point
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I meant later, after you calmed down or found something new you wanted shipped to your door.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i could play guitar by gutting one of the drivers and tuning his gizzards
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there is your problem
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you have birds driving vehicles
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: and it'll be another 2 weeks trying to get it sorted out, no doubt
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: has Guitar Hero finally gone unpopular enough that nobody stocks it anymore?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They went out of business
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm not paying for it again
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: cost 8 weeks money to buy it in the first place, and another 2 weeks money to send the original faulty one back, they can poxy well replace it on their time and money this time
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: there a way to make a variable assigned to a specific value? and then call on that variable for use in an alias or trigger?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which client?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: mushclient for aard
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yes.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: of course
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: where might i find documentation on that?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: shift+ctrl+alt+f
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: So.. I just got a laptop with switchable graphics.. And as far as I can see, nothing's detecting the GPU.. Anyone experienced in this?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher has experience using google.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: how can I make a command run shortly after logging into aardmush?  where can I put it?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what command?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: just looking to show the boards and create a group after logging in
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: simplest is probably to trigger on the welcome message
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: There's a login message you recieve, just trigger on that
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "Welcome to Aardwolf. May your adventures be mystical, challenging and rewarding." is probably a good pattern
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: why thank you Fiendish
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just be sure to anchor it
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anchor/
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: with the extender and spellup plugins I have, there is a lot of scrolling when I first login.  I was looking to run after that.  Maybe a 5sec timer?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well if you use regex for the pattern then you want to start it with ^
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're just sending commands, why does scrolling matter?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh boards
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure, you can add a timer
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: where can I get some good info on Lua Tables?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://programming-motherfucker.com/become.html#Lua
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Daughter bumped something.. moved my toolbar MUSH to the side of the window.. how do I move it back to the top?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: fiendish do you know anything of basts eqdb for his plugins?
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The line on the lhs of the toolbar, drag it back with that
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: View->Reset Toolbar Locations
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: thanks Fiend
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, but I bet bast does
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol i would msg bast but hes been off 10 days now
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: well nevermind. i looked him up i guess this morning and he was 10days offline.. now shows 6hrs ago
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm...is the Casual Game bubble bursting? Zynga fires over 100 employees, shuts down 2 dev city locations, Bigpoint fires 120 and CEO resigns.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: zynga suffers from making the same old crappy idea... farmbucks, horseshoe's w/e all there games had the same idea...
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: While 5% or so is a big drop is a workplace, it's hardly the death of a company. Casual gaming is a huge market, as much as "real gamers" like to raise their nose at is.
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods ceo's resigning isn't that big a deal, bunch of shifty bums...
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The concern is not what the reaction from gamers is going to be, but rather the investors
T3/r7/2012-10-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Zynga dropped a hefty portion of their liquidity on Draw Something, they can't have much held in reserve
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: is thre a cmd for the bigmap to show img insead of room to room on continents
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: who maintains duckbat.com?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ...duckbat :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Lokathor takes one look at himself and gasps in astonishment!
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: it's just that some of the item entries are no longer valid
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: They need not be valid for obtainable items - the db is for historic items also
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So old open gear, closed gear, items which have had their areas removed, etc - will all still be there.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: Anyone know if MIT Scheme has a ported version for 64 bit os
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: win
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turkot Tech: ugh lag. this client is slow on my ipad
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: So, what non-Apple mp3 players do you all prefer?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i had a sansa something or other i liked but it was mostly because it had a great digital recorder built in
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: sansa fuse maybe?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i doubt it was that nice, i think i found it on the ground at school or something
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i 'like' my G5 160gb ipod but i really really don't like itunes
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ill take my cheapo dealextreme player,,, micro sd slot and runs off a single AAA all day... $15
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: not having to deal with itunes makes almost any mp3 that isn't isuck related a good idea, the only real issue with those is storage capacity. i actually use almost my entire 160gb
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: guh, a lot of computers are shipping with windows 8 now?  That sucks.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: is it even out yet
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't know, I'm looking at new laptops and it says they all ship with windows 8
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I haven't heard anything good about it at all, would like to avoid
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: it's released in like 2 days
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: are you  buy a powerhouse laptop for gaming
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: and full hd pr0n of course
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: no, I just want a damn netbook with a headphone jack that doesn't suck dick.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm pissed off that my computer lasted a whole 10 months, when my old one lasted 10 years and still works fine.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: 10 mo and it's not covered by warranty?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: what kind of computer?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: that's your own fault... mine is 6 years old and find
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: fine
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yeah, I can send it off for a warranty fix, will take months.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, it's my own fault my Lenovo, which shoudl be solid, isn't working right.  Drop dead.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: what isn't "working right"
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: the jack, for one
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: who needs sound, to play aard?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The freaking headphone jack completely broke.  It's screwing up the sound.  It isn't fixable, unless I send it off to the factory, which will take forever.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Headphones don't even work anymore, the sound cuts out after 3 or so seconds.  I can't watch anything, can't listen to anything.  It's ridiculous.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so instead you would just buy another computer instead of have something fixed for free?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I could blame apple for my iphone headphone jack breaking... but it probably had something to do with the fact that I spilled water on it
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I don't have the patience to wait months for it to be fixed.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: buy a usb sounds card?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sound*
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: buy bluetooth headphones, use the built in computer speakers...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I just can't believe that such a solid computer builder would go cheap on something as important as the headphone jack.  It's really frustrating and lame.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: yeah i'd say the water was probably the cause
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: That's the whole problem, Ralyn.  The sound cuts out.  Completely.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: so it is the sound card? not the jack?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: I bet it is something you could fix
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: open it up and remove the headphone jack
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's the jack, it's not the sound card, it's not the damn drivers.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: usb headphonesl
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oops
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: sounds like what happened to my iphone... spilled water that got in the jack and all the sound stopped working
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess I can try that, not much left to do
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I didn't spill anything in it though.  It just broke.  Cheap crap.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: my mom had usb headphones that didn't need a sound card...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: So get it fixed and quit yer bitchin.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's not fixable, I've called around.  Unless I want to send if off for months.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and you know it will take months?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Because that's how long it takes companies to do anything.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ralyn Tech: should have gone for the in home service... like Dell does
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landion Tech: Jack sockets are inherently crap
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: huh well then you better just wait until the warranty expires then become upset enough to get it fixed and pay to have it fixed so you have something more to complain about
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: As I said, drop dead.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serinal Tech: Hey, could someone help me with some plugin code?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serinal Tech: I need to have coded a neural plugin, so that when I recognize a mob in cp ch and I know exactly where it is in an area, my client automatically runs there without me having to do anything but think about it.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Serinal Tech: Work on that, tech nerds.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: when i type k <target> is there a way for the typed target to be captured somewhere to then be used in an alias that has c <spell> <captured variable>
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: well, any combat spell will automatically target the mob you're fighting...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: if you don't specify a target.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: right, but in a case where i'm in a room with 4 of the same mob types (non agressive) i can simply hit my keypad macro button
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: and it will c <spell> <target> without me having to re type 'k frog' again
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: to start the combat
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: you could just type c spell target to start the combat
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: don't hvae to start combat with k
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: precisely .. however my command set to my keypad + button is simply c <spell> -- so it assumes i'm in combat already
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: But yes, it is possible client side.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: hence why I want to make it c <spell> <captured target variable>
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: where could i find info on that jaenelle - i'm no means a programmer/ scripter -- rather new to this
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: I've not found a website that explains that type of stuff in an easy to understand way. Most scripting or even simple variable handling assumes you have some programming knowledge.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: i've constructed similar function in zmud after looking at examples others had done - I'm sure I could figure it out if I knew where to look for aard client
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: look for mushclient, because that is what it is in the base.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: the 'aard client' is just an expanded version of mush
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kwerbias Tech: alright, i can start there, thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: help mushclient points you to some websites
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihilanth Tech: hey
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Best to just ask your question in as much detail as possible :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihilanth Tech: hi guys, can i make mouse clickable macros in mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't think that's actually possible on any computer.  Macros are keypresses.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you mean how to use your mouse buttons as macros?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihilanth Tech: no what i meant is, you know this aardwolf mapper. can i make a plugin like that which contains my spells, and casts them when i click them?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihilanth Tech: it should be simpler than the map which tracks coords and speedwalks me whenever i click somewhere
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I know there are plugins that do similar effects, but dunno how they're doing it.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nihilanth Tech: where can i find such a plugin?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if it's MXP, then they are using the mxp send tag.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I believe Winkle's Search and Destroy Bot does it.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using Windows 98?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: in the world? ...no
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not in the past 7 years or so
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hopefully someone will write an open source xp/7 "shell" for it
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 8 already has win 7 shell
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: for win98?  Why bother?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: musta added it.. i only have the preview
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah in the preview you can't shut off the metro ui... but most apps still use the older ui, apps need to be rewriten/compiled for metro
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so you end up with both
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... desktop sans start button is a winkey away
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so... Resist Mods: Acid         : +100... should i bother addding those to a db? Saw something about them getting phased uot
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you turn on aero is win 8 still faster than 7?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: where did you see that being mentioned?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i cannot turn on aero... Via C7 board.. built in S3 graphic
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: over all most programs seem to run faster
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: probably a better superfetch system
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: i want to know how personally...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Hanslanda... gossip or somewhere.. just the other day... maybe it was saves?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably saves.  Far as I know, resists aren't being changed any.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and saves haven't been touched in a long time
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so has anyone made the 4.30 cfw?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: for?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ps3
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: since they released the lv0 keys yesterday
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i'm trying to catch playername, level and tier info. i am using score now because it has {score} tags. whois would be better but that info doesn't have tags. any other ideas how to catch this info ?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: gmcp
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: hmm that is an option
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: It's really the very very best option.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: i agree, but i need to make my plugin depended on some other plugins but in the end that is not so bad
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Using GMCP doesn't preclude you from having plugins interact with each other.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: holy wow... 50 fields for jusr ident info in a db... http://pastebin.com/5bUCmTXy
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's probably more than that, different item types get different fields
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 23 triggers, 8 trigger states
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i went through all types i could think of
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: looks like you don't have any damage stuff here
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: weapons?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dang.. added trigs.. didnt add to notes :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wtype: dagger avg: 78 inflicts: stab dtype: Pierce special: Sharp
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that'd be all of em i think
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 55 fields :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what ya running? an i7? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mud clients don't take much processor power...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods but plugins can
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: im running this on a celeron 466mhz
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shrug, it's just an eq database
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: shouldn't be any more resource intensive than the mapper
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: winkle's xrt can freeze me up for a few seconds due to cpu usage
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: what OS Lycan?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: xp pro 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and i'm using a 2gz
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: xrt is just sending a command of "mapper goto 1325125" or whatever
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: it doesn't do anything special that mapper doesn't
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah it's the searching part
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: amd x4 on xp here
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i should be runing 98 or a linux dixtro really
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using windows 98?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: has a 6gb hdd
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it can search up to 300 paths
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I have a VM that runs Windows 98, what's up :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you play Aard on it?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i still have my windows 3.1 floppies xD
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: don't ya need 3.11 for networking? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you can install a tcp/ip stack on 3.1
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in dos
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and 32 bit cache baby! :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: No, why would I?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: http://www.conradshome.com/sshot.png
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Just ask your questino though, maybe someone can help.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol ozzy that link name made me laugh
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I am looking for an Aardwolf client that works in Windows 98
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Mushclient doesn't work, even though it should
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: who says it should? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: what about an old version?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Gammon
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: did ya get the 2.1 unoffical update?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: and you must run win98?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here are some that work on 3.1 :P http://www.conradshome.com/zmud/
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i used to use zmud. odd little client
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe you should upgrade. what's wrong with you anyway? what kind of a sick bastard would make oneself use w98?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Have you tried ALC? Very simple client, supports basic triggers and aliases.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: But yea, why Windows 98?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods win 98 is like surfing the internet with a leaky barge
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: w98 was awesome
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: is a hipster thing?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Much less horrible than zMud, in terms of crashing/etc
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: because I have inherited an old system that runs Windows 98
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Anyone here know/learning how to develop android apps?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: zmud never really crashed on me
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: You can throw it out and run linux. Then you can use tintin for instance.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: vost why dont you put linux on it?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods but when zmud does crash, it's epic
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: although wintin might work on it. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Do you live in the US? You can get a much nicer computer for pretty much nothing if you look for used ones locally.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: how so Santher?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it is actually fully functional
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tends to hose your scripts
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that it never did to me
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Vost, have you tried Wintin?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Because it sucks at backing up its own databases.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: happened to me a couple of times
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no, I haven't
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you recommend it?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: besides, i back up my own scripts
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: should anyways :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I've run tintin for a while and it's good. Wintin is the same thing I guess. But graphical.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: or so I assume
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: windows can hose scripts too i found out
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if it deceides you need a restore
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: how old you think this trigger is: #TRIGGER {^Armor class is (%d).$} {#ADDKEY newrecord AC %1}
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thinking back on w98 makes me shudder
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's from my zmud 5.55 backup :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like you're win 98 is messed up... not that unusual with win 98 :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: your*
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Don't Bore Xyndor Tech: actually found a windows 98 CD the other day in one of my cabinets :p
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I left a note about it on the Mushclient forum
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 98 used to have the nickname "reinstall weekly"
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: windows 98 works fine
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the problem is that modern software isn't designed to be compatible
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and yet yours ins't
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods nobody is gonna code for an old garbage OS
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: beat winME
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yet I can do almost everything I wanna do on it
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it has an enormous CRT monitor
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how much ram ya got?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: 128 MB
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but I have ordered another 256 MB 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: man facebook will eat that up...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: plenty for a debian net install
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: from Amazon, cost #10
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?!
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: facebook uses like 400k
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I don't use facebook
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i think this laptop has 184mb ram
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err mb
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i run debian on my thinkpad p150's with 104mb ram
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: to each there own i guess... tomorrow i'll be picking up 8gb's of ram a new mb and a 54gb ssd :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i like mint
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err 64
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I'm running tintin++ on my Raspberry Pi. It's an ARM11 running at 800MHz and with 256MB ram. It works great.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then i can aard in style, lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol i cant wait to get a new pc. this celeron is driving me nuts
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i hear ya, this old sempron just aint cutting the mustard anymore
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: got an e7600 out of a smashed up imac :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cmud only gets upto like 7% on the 4th core when im stressing it
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol this laptop is falling apart. screen doesnt stay up cause left side hinge is broke so it just falls backward/forward
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: does the headphone jack work?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: the hdd is messed up and corrupts random sys files once in a while
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: nope no sound
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's gonna be Santher's new thing.. must have a bulletproof audio jack :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol kevlar casing 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you mean starling :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hint: don't buy a netbook
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: those things are garbage
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol not much of a hint..should be a law
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: pretty much everything is garbage next to a t-series thinkpad
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: next month or so im building a dual xeon cpu pc for a friend
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: xeon isn't that a bit of a waste?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: shrug, my laptop is an x series thinkpad.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: like a 10k system
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: x is basically smaller version of t. build quality is the same
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: waste of what? its going to be hosting servers
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I.e. it's not "garbage" as Santher called it.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not a netbook
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, why would you call a server a pc?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: It's in the same size class, anyway
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: hes going to be using it for both
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the size is the only thing it has in common with netbooks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: the evga sr-x mobo
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I'm going to just bite the bullet and send it in for warranty repair, shrug.  It's frustrating, but there is nothing else to be done about it.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: must have more money than brains :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: their warranty services are damn fast
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods at Santher.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I ordered an x230 though, screw it.  It's what I originally wanted anyway, and it will be nice to have a second machine.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: oke got player name lvl and tier from gmcp now. works pretty easy and straight forward. I catch these after login. I have a trigger that checks for the welcome to aardwolf line. is this the best way to detect a login ?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: There are certain benefits to having money and no kids, Santher ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not you starling
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what client, Zubol?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the dude buying the 10k pc for personal use and as a server
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Oh, yeah, I don't have THAT much money, check back in 10 years
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but yeah, building a server and hosting vps's on it and using it as your pc sounds pretty retarded
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: unless you live in a datacenter
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's the best way for a full login, but you need to trigger on a different line for a disco reconnect.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Seltsimees Dagnir.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods you can do the same for about 3k or so as 2 machines
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Whoever has that insane cmud setup, how'd you do it?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I assume you're referring to mine?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or ozzy :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: ahh of course i will look for a second line after reconnect to check on. 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: kinda hard to narrow down based on "that insane setup".
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The one that was linked at http://www.conradshome.com/sshot.png
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: yeah i know. but he wants an overkill machine so. ill build it.. not my money lol. id build one for 2-3k just fine
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: can I have his old one?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I think the x230 will run graphical games, not sure.  Core i5 with 8 gigs of ram.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably going to play solitaire on it or something
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ssd?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and running windows 7 home premium
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol his old one is like a first get core2duo, evga 8600 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Yep, ssd, 128 gigs
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cool
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: he's using the Midievia font.  They have two, but I forget which is the one you want.  That's how he "drew" the lines around stuff in his status window.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My current laptop is the last HDD I ever own, it's SSD from here on out
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: probably not, starling. it uses i5 built-in gpu afaik
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not much point going i5 if you're just gonna choke it with a HD :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the large TIME TO QUEST notifier was done with the mxp font tag, with mxp IMAGE tags on either side.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no discreet gpu on the x series
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: they use amd's?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the apu line is good enough for games
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: By "graphical games" I mean on par with WoW or maybe SW:ToR
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: intel's on-die gpu doesn't come close to amd's apu's
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. and amd cpu's suck
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: oh!
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: here's a cmud forum post about what an Achaea player's doing with just buttons. http://forums.zuggsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37853
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: amd apu's only advantage is its price. you only find them in cheaper consumer laptops
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: they run hot?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no higher end manufacturer user their chips
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uses*
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: same old same old for amd...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: decent gpu's tho
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: My x120e has an AMD E-350, seems solid, never has heat issues
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: if heat is an issue they can just underclock the chips a bit
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: orly? they use amd chips in x? :O
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i thought they had intels b-whatever series
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: b?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: This model uses the AMD e-350 or the intel atom, iirc
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: the x130 is the newer version and uses the core i3
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i3 i like....
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: throw in a vid card and you're off to the races
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: have a p8600. comes pretty close to i3 in benchmarks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i'll be getting an e7600 goinf tomorrow :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gonna oc the fsb bus a bit to i3 speed
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: I guess it's good that I didn't buy the 4000-dollar gaming laptop, if the headphone jack on that went bad I'd probably go shoot up a shopping mall or something.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: haven't thought about upgrading my desktop either. e8400 overclocked to 3.6GHz is capable of running dwarf fortress with 15 in-game years, 220 dwarves and like 1000 units. get around 35 fps average :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods higher end core 3 duo's are still good
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err 2
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: i ordered g620.. it still hasn't arrived. its a slow computer. it travels like 100km/month
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah. and dwarf fortress can make any cpu cough blood in no time
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: the new i3's are so cheap and quite adequate for most tasks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: plus there's always the option to upgrade to i5 or i7
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods schnapps i'd go i3, but salvaged a core 2 duo out of an imac :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i still want an i7, the new 2011 socekt i think it is
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i7 is pointless for most people. i5 is optimal
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's the deal with that? quad channel ram?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: even the i5 is overkill for most people
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: in my last build I put an i3 in with the intention of upgrading later if needed. never happened.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hwuaijijal Tech: i7 is like a pixar studio in a home
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: basically nothing I do is CPU-bound
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: extra 100+ bucks gets you HT and well, you probably won't be running anything that benefits from that
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: i3 has the virtual cores as wel
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: on my old machine i Folded on both cpu and my 2 gpus
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i3 is dual core with ht. i5 is quad. i7 is quad with ht
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: oh I see, you were talking about i5 vs. i7, sorry
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i5 is for suckers that think they need quad core
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i5 is for gamers
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe if you're running sli
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: most games still dont even take full use of quad cores
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: The x230 has this: http://ark.intel.com/products/64896/Intel-Core-i5-3320M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: only way i'd go quad core is if i was running 2 os's all the time
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or if it was free :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: if the cache isn't assigned to specific cores that's actually where you're going to get a performance boost
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: since the i5 has twice the L3 that the i3 has (same per core)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: my old e7200 c2d i had oc from 2.53 to 3.6ghz and sli 9800gtx+. 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh yeah. cache matters
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: that's why celerons suck
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: cache is the major thing that matters, yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you'll be hard pressed to notice the difference unless you have 2 high end cards running in sli mode
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: Cash is king
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: most people overlook it. just go for the GHz
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: and it's really expensive, which is why cheap processors perform badly. they're cheap since they skimp on cache (celeron)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the new celeron does quite well with it 1mb cache actually
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: while a decent E series C2D has 6 or 8
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I was thinking the old celerons, since I haven't looked at the new ones. didn't even realize they were still making them
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and does very little for performance :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: celerons are still popular in lower end brand-pc's for offices
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i think my E series had 6
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: it just really matters what you're using your computer for, in pretty much all cases :p
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are some real monsters in the extreme sections of C2D line
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: still cost more than regular i5's
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: yeah my e7200 was an OC beast lol.. i could get it from 2.53 to 4ghz 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: C2D had a great run
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: just try whohasthefastestcomputer.com
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh i'm hoping to upgrade to c2d tomorrow :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sempron had a great run... i've been using these damn things for years
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: wolfdale chips are very nice
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and oh god, semprons suck
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's amd's celeron line
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I thought my dual 3.2 was good apparently its not very good on whohasthefastestcomputer.com
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol ringo i had my dual at 4ghz 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can't seem to get rid of them... i've had 3 computers in the last 5 years all fricken semprons... i sell one and get another... lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: no overclock on stupid dell
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: custom build only xD
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah custom ftw
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i still want to find that "dude i got a dell" kid and punch him in the face
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: my wifes has overclock but its burning out power supplies every couple weeks allready
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: err. it doesn't work that way
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I fed it like 15 of them in the last 3 months enough I could have just bought another computer
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: altho you need a good psu for overclocking. stability matters
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think there are problems with the power grid, not the overclock
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: or something else. maybe a fork inserted somewhere
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: the right rail amps
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: overclocking is kinda stupid anyways... the extra cost for parts to handle it, you could just get a better cpu to start with
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I think its a transistor not gating right
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ]
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nah. overclocking is fun
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: seems to happen more when its turned off but still plugged in
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the most expensive thing i got was a high-end seasonic psu
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey, a good psu will last you forever
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i do like building computers that can oc, that way in a few years you can OC them and run themn till they die
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I got 800watt it died in like 3 weeks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i had a corsair 850w mod psu
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you shouldnt buy cheap power supplies
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: wattage doesn't matter for how long they'll last, brand will matter
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I paid $120 for the 800watt
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: cheap as in how it's made, not the cost
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's dirt cheap for 800
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ineeded the wattage lol. oc cpu.. sli 9800 gtx+. and a 8800 for physx
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: mines a thermaltake, has lasted me years
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I been feeding it 300 watt since then
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thermaltake is the cheapest i'll go
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and that's if i can put up with loud
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i think ive only had corsair psu. 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last thermaltake psu, the fan died in like a year... but at least it took a replacement fan ok
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: corsair is good, antec, rosewill etc
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I've tried Corsair to kentek
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there are only two quality psu makers - corsair and seasonic
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: pretty sure its just her motherboard with a transistor not gating its like its shorting it out cause when it goes it pops like a firecracker
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: antec has a decent line
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i liked the 500 wat ocz i bought... 7 years and running
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: blowing stuff off the psu board and what not
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: the mobo or the psu is popping?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, decent. not the best
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what about silverstone psu's?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I have a Zalman PSU because I wanted a quiet one
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i like zalman's cpu coolers
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: the psu I got a stack of like 15 in a box by the door
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: most of those psu from off brand names are made by the same company..just diff brand sells them
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: one died after over 2 years, didn't take anything else with it, and their support got it replaced under warranty basically immediately
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: so I'm partial to them because of how good their support was if nothing else
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: pretty sure she needs a new mobo
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: dell has some awesome support
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: they replaced my keyboard out 3x 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: didnt cost me a dime next day shipping and my harddrive once
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: I've only ever had home builds
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: home builds and apple's :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah oem's always seem to gimp at least 1 part
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: hers is homebuild mine is dell
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: I don't have any hate for Dell, my current "media pc" was through their outlet: cheaper than the same thing home built, parts and labor considered.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: yeah I always want a beefy video card, but I don't want to pay for all the other trappings to get that video card from a builder
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I got a 1GB geforce 210... and it keeps bugging out on D3
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: buy a decent one off newegg thats refurbished? 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: trying to get a high-end video card in a machine from Dell is always too expensive
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: like the pic spilts and then it freezes and blue screens me
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: Dell or anyone else
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim nods at Schnapps.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods those stupid slim cases they use
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: do you have the latest drivers?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: yeah I tried to install new and old... removed everything half a dozen times
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: you could always take off all the plasitc casing on the cards lol. they really arent that big
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: psu issue?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: one would hope that Dell wouldn't put an underpowered PSU in
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oem's like to use undersized psu's
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: nah mine came with 300watt I got 800 in it now
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: surely cant be underpowered
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: check the voltages?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol way overpowered now
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: try downloading 3dmark or a similar benchmark program that will stress out the card
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I am.  And don't call be Shirley.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: that will tell you if it's a D3-specific issue or just an issue where it's failing under heavy load
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just cause it's 800 doesn't mean everything is getting full/proper power either
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Schnapps Tech: yeah, it depends on how the rails are configured
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I got it allready tried it seemed to run fine...it started with d3 then started doing it just reg surfing seemed to be effected by use of java more then anything
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: no fan on it I had a suspicion that it overheated... they tell me its in operating range
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: wait. what has no fan on it.. the psu?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you're trying to play d3 on a card with no fan?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: lol yeah didnt come with one...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: look it up geforce 210 1GB
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: or the 210 has no fan? just a heatsink i bet lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: just a heatsink
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah yeah that's a piece of crap oem's buy
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I bought it it was cheap and I just wanted to try D3 out lol my wife got it for me for fathers day
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: was only like 30 bucks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: good for watchin movies, but not for games :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: thing it only has like 16cores
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I cant seem to do anything with it without it blue screening me now
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah it's meant for oem's so it burns out fast
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: could always try flashing it with a new bios
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i would flah it in the garbage can :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: unless it really is burned out lol then meh 30bucks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: flash* :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: hmmm hadnt considered that
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol i flashed my 9800s to the 250 bios
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what cpu ringo?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: yeah I played it for 2 weeks solid with no freezes no blue screen
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: dell inspiron 560
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah the onboard graphics will probablt perform about the same
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: of you're gonna bother with a vid card go ddr5 or don't bother :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 128 bit ddr3 is the same speed as system ram
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: System ram? You mean cache?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I cant use the onboard it wont run it
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: I got 4GB ram 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no i mean ddr3 adram
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sdram
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: should have got the 7900
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: bout same price 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe your fsb is running slow
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: from what it seemed like to me like it wasnt flushing it back out after it used the memory and it was running out
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's the biggest affect on onboard gpu's
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nah that's corrupted memory
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: aka cheap ass vid card
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: hahah prolly I figured it was something on the card... 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: tech support kept telling me it was my system 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: yet it works fine without the card lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: so now I got d3 subscription and cant play it lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: tech support is for people that can't fix crap
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err the support guys that is
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: lol its under warranty for 1 year figued it was thier baby
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah well the guys on the phone make minimum wage and only need to know how to read
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so even if they know better, they sure as heck aint telling you
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wait, you gotta subscribe to play diablo 3?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: you gotta have a disk
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: you gotta sign up for account on blizzard site
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: a disk and internet from what i know
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: its all online
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: dont even need disk
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, only reason i buy games is for single player action, so i'll skip d3
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: when i have internet i play aard
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Johnny Ringo Tech: hmmm yeah you dont need disk accept to install
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hey fiend... is there a reason why turning off echoing mobsay's in main window doesn't work?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define doesn't work
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: as is i still see them
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: they're probably not tagged
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please type checkversion
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: r1557
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and what are you doing to turn it off?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right clicking the comm window and changing the custom list for echo'ing on main
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which mob are you testing against?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the receptionist in bonds
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ew
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm...that's unfortunate...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mobsay doesn't get tagged
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i figured as much, just wanted to confirm with ya
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'll see if I can fix that by changing the plugin around, but I think the real problem here is that there are no tags showing for mobsays
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: either that or goal mobs shouldn't spam you to begin with :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: whats the newest verion?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: mine shows r1700
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: r1700 is
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: cause i was just wondering if mobsay could be blocked from the chat window lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, that part is easy
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i have no idea how to read forum stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what are you trying to read?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: what you just posted lol
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: help note
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: ok sometimes my mainscreen randomly goes blank then everything comes back
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how long?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: just a few seconds
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's a long time
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you screenshot it?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: my computer starting making these loud random beeps the other day... i hope my psu is ok
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: umm idk if i can friend
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: the beeps have a meaning
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: everything else stay up.. just the main clears then comes back
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: listen to the sequence and look up what it means through your motherboard
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any extra plugins installed?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they're patterned by long/short beeps
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mokg it's not a startup thing mokg
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it just happens at random times
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: random beeping probably means your CPU is overheating
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: yes but but i think it started before i added them aswell
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should check to see if the heatsink is still attached
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I once had the heatsink mounting bracket snap and my computer starting beeping madly
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well i'm swppin the mb tomorrow...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luckily intel cpus throttle themselves down instead of melting
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol thats never advise you wanna hear.. make sure the heatsink is still attached.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it is "{
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: with the beeping you probably notice it getting slower
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's amd...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: beeping can also be ram/gfx not seated properly
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I don't know if amd cpus do it too these days. I can only hope 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Gnarcyon wasn't paying attention when you said it's not a boot issue
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well i'm taking it out tomorrow and putting in a 775 board with an e7600...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lycanthroat: does it happen when you manually resize the main output?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: was just hoping it wasn't my psu :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wouldn't want to cook a new motherboard
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: it happens randomly.. not resizing anything
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: though i do have a question of safe plugins to remove from the aard that it auto loads. like the new connection one
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i've disabled the gmcp statmon one because i wanted to use statmon...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause it kept disabling statmon
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean why use statmon
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: why not?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your choice of course
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i dont even see the gmcp stat one.. but i use bast statmon and a few of his plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: the evets and equip windows
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well that and i'd have to figure out how to ungag gmcp to work with it?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, biggest reason why not is that gmcp is sent asynchronously and without regard to character status...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while statmon is only sent as prompt
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcp is never gagged
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just not visible in the main data stream
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how do you see it then?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's an out of band signal
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can see it if you do 'gmcpdebug 1'
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because the gmcp plugin makes that possible
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you're not supposed to see it :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well then i'll stick to statmon :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's designed to run behind the scenes
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i have noticed that if i do use the inv command when i have basts eq/inv miniwindow.. shit breaks hard and i have to rinsintall the eqdb 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: all main window output is an error..but everything else reads fine
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't believe any inventory plugin was ever finished
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: this bast one seems pretty finished for me
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: bast's isn't finished?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you just said it breaks hard
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: there are still some bugs with it i have noticed
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what "bast's" does
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i see whta ya mean abe
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm assuming it's a slightly polished version of the one that was prototyped on the forum a long time ago
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gmcp won't work for what i need
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: im not sure if its the inv plugin or an error in the db that breaks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcp works for what everyone needs
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: bast's eqdb is quite usable
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except for things that aren't sent via gmcp
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he has 2 related plugins for it, one's more like gammon's proof of concept, the other does a sqlite database with inventory, bag contents, etc
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: fiend do you know a site that pastes prntscrn and saves img 
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i dont have paint...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try imgur.com
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so to work off gmcp i leave debug on and gag it?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: umm, no
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you grab the data from the gmcp helper
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/MushclientGMCP
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's the helper?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: can i disable that?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's the plugin that triggers on the gmcp messages and broadcasts it to other plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: you can disable it, but it's not wise thing to try, most plugins you have will stop working
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: is note mode needed or can that be removed?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't disable it, actually :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you try it reenables itself
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: sure you can, it only needs little hacking of the script text :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher sighs.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thanks... i'll just stick with statmon, much easier :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: note mode plugin does not reenable itself
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: no, the gmcp helper
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: imgur doesnt let you paste from clipboard
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: it does so
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right from the main imgur page, try to paste.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: still looking for a site to paste prntscrn to and save the img
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "or Ctrl + V to paste from your clipboard" right there on imgur.com
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: straight on the main page? dont click anything ?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose that depends on whether you can read
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i try not too that often
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes: [24 Oct 21:18:52] Abelinc Tech: right from the main imgur page, try to paste.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: i compt missed that..
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: fiendish http://i.imgur.com/MUcIp.png
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: why on the mud connector under the information for aardwolf does it say "email: wolf (at) aardmud (dot) org" why not just use the symbols since they give a slot for email...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: spam skimmers
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: i made a trigger that triggers on *You feel the loss of your champion strength* in mush and this is what it will do, "get teacher bag (next line)quaff teacher", why wont it work. it was send to world.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why does that start and end with *?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #1 i wouldnt trigger with * at beginning and end
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: should start with ^ and end in $ ... although that aint why it aint working
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if designated regex
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: so i should remove * at the beggining?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: unless * doesn't match null in mush
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: remove both, add ^ and $ tick the regex box
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: ok :)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: $ is unnecessary and probably wrong
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: since he's missing punctuation
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: would need to add the period
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: if hes using regex now.. dont forget to escape the .
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh yea
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this is all completely unnecessary though
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just type the following...
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: #trigger {You feel the loss of your champion strength.} {get teacher bag;;quaff teacher}
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. no anchors?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient automatically anchors
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not stupid like zmud ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that aint mush.. thats a script in mush.. the #trigger thing
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: someone else type #trigger {tick} {tell seanjac You feel the loss of yoru champion strength.}  :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes. a script that is included in my package
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it just creates a simple trigger for you
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: on second thought...that ;; might not work
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess I should fix that
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought it sent to execute instead of to world
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and mush does automatically anchor? cause your script just does: match = "%1"
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: how do you match partial lines then?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: mush uses glob matching by default, which is automatically anchored
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers#I_tried_making_a_trigger_but_it_isn%27t_firing._What_did_I_do
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: by putting a * in front, or using regex
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh. it looks like #alias sends to execute but #trigger doesn't. oops.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess I'll have to fix that
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: stupid mush :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh yeah, and cmud is just a breeze for you to get right hey oz? :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just stupid my triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: so if i just change send to world, to execute, it will work?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: it did work.
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the only issue i had with cmud was converting stuff from zmud... double quotes and such
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: execute is mainly for using aliases within other alieases/triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: execute is needed for converting the ; into line breaks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: necessary if you want to use the #trigger trigger to send multiple commands
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ox tech *nod
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: er #trigger alias
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oops :P
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: someone wana glance over this and see if i missed anything glaring? http://pastebin.com/hCMLxqPm
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: item db?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: material... guess i should use that... what with iron and all
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: lemme go grab my defs and compare
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you might want to add an ID field just to have a unique number (there's a default field called Row or something similar you can use, but it might be easier to make your own)
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... it's in there.. just not that list... id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Uh, I'm not seeing any output in my main window on MUSHclient... wth?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you probably installed some plugin that is doing bad things?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I just logged on and it suddenly stopped showing stuff in the window
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Maybe I hit some button?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i got: CREATE TABLE eq (id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, THAT LIST);
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just because you just logged on doesn't mean you didn't install some other plugin that is doing bad things
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it probably tries to do something bad at startup
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: winkle's plugin(s?) like to do that
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I didn't install anything, less it updated itself
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: umm, containers and furniture have special flags of their own.  Are you planning on bundling those in with the normal item flags like V3 and the enchant flags?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I literally logged on, typed daily prayer and it stopped working
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: is there something on furniture past: healrate INTEGER, manarate INTEGER,  ?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: press Ctrl+Shift+p and show me what plugins you have installed
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i would literally try restarting mush
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's the itemsinside column?  Or is this for inventory and not just general item info?
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I restarted already
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: And there's no new plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure I accept your definition of "new" unless I can see what you have installed
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's for containers... some come with stuff already inside
T3/r7/2012-10-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: hmm, okay, didn't know they came with stuff inside like that.  Just thought it was for when players put stuff in themselves.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I disabled everything and it's working now..
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I hatechooooo
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: disabling "everything" is not the right answer
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It's one of the plugins..
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now show me what you have installed so I can tell you which one it is
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Umari.. Name       : a cast iron frying pan ... Items Inside :    1 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Uh
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: food can be poisoned, and liquids can be thirst only or both hunger and thirst, with alcohol content on top of that.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I have just the standard ones that come with the aardwolf client download, I haven't added anything else.. Ever
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting. what client version?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh... ok, off to find some poison food and bad drink then :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type 'checkversion'
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: r1557
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mmm. I should get lasher to update that link again. one sec while I investigate r1557
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use r1557 with no problems
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I did too, until I just logged on
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: And bam, messed up
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: devak did you change your prompt recently?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: grab your mapper file and redownload :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, that's silly
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Devak, try removing the prompt fixer plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and restart
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Worked
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Devak sighs.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only ever see that conflict with some other plugins not written by me
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but that's interesting
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: It's enabled again, after restart
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I said remove, not disable
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: But output is showing back on the main window.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: either way
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as long as output is back
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Eh, it's working
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: If it happens again, I'll just remove or do this again.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it shouldn't happen again
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, give me a minute to investigate something
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Devak: if you upgrade to r1700 you will be much much less likely to ever encounter this issue
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/downloads/list
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Mkay, will do.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: Thanks for the help btw, you're awesome.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: apparently I changed the way the prompt fixer works in 1594
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which would be obviously after 1557
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i have prompt fixer disabled
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the old prompt fixer messes up something that winklewinkle tried to do
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: basically trying to use the same command at the same time, more or les
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the new one avoids that
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: how many people are using mac to interface with mush client?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: like. maybe 7 or 8?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: about 7.6?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: in other words, you are a pc user
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Mac users are pc users too =p
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: lol im an ancient tech user
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm, the new Bolt is pretty interesting. GEFORCE GTX680, supports up to 4.86GHz overclock speeds, 14 inches tall, 3.6 inches wide, bottomless storage (so it claims, no idea)... for $999, it's the smallest gaming PC out there.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, 4.6GHz, not 4.86.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: I want a Razer Blade...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Devak rapidly nods twice to himself, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Gillete makes pretty good ones.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So weird... VLC player ran up 1.5 GB of RAM...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Anyone know if Microsoft Word has a hot key to highlight selected text?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: highlight in which way?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: i select text then click the "highlight" button up top to highlight the entire word/area in yellow
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: just curious if there is a built in ctrl+key to  highlight instead of having to use mouse each time
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: http://www.techtalkz.com/microsoft-office/66029-there-keyboard-shortcut-highlighting.html
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.techtalkz.com/microsoft-office/66029-there-keyboard-shortcut-highlighting.html 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Riddim beat me to it, lol
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: tldr: No, but you can assign one
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: just didn't want to do that... hehe. was hoping for a built in command. Oh well
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: thanks guys!
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: np
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Hey how do I toggle a sharptracker option? I can't find help on it
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: any1 use sharp tracker?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: I do
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: how do I get it to toggle quest info ON
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: togquest
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: Do you mean showing the mob and room or number of quests completed?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: also it looks at the room after each mob death is there a way i can turn it off?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: toglook
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: I was meaning it hitting a GT message about what quest and where and when q completes into gt
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: thanks arg
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: welcome
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: it's a saweet pluggin. Really enjoying it.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: installed it today!
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Argetlam rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: Oh that's nice.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: I was meaning it hitting a GT message about what quest and where and when q completes into gt
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: sorry fail
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: im getting a runtime error with a bast plugin xBroadcast_Whois
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: run-time error [string "Plugin"]:182: attempt to index field 'base' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: anyone got this issue?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: works fine for me
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: is there a command to reinstall a plugin?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyrni Tech: I used to think Access 2.0 was the worst development experience ever, then I tried Objective C
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone have a faster method of getting a hold of duckbat rather than in-game note? Getting malware warnings for duckbat.com from chrome.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare security_update() (previously declared in /home/duckbatc/public_html/index.php:1) in /home/duckbatc/public_html/main.php on line 1
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i have a tab delimited file with lines like- name1: name<tab>name2: name<tab>value: 3<tab>value2: value   ,,, is there a way i can INSERT INTO table name1='name', name2='name', value=3, value2='value' ?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: easy enough to do a serch and replace on the file to make it an sql type file... just dont know howto format it
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: sql files are binary files as i recall. you'd probably be best served making a SQL-capable script that can read each line and then input it into SQL using a DB connection like you'd make a table normally
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, you can do that, don't know the syntax off the top of my head, but it depends on your database. Just lookup the syntax for inserts for your specific database.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why not just change the tabs to commas, then do INSERT INTO table VALUES (@comma_delimited_variable)?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: nods.. or use find+replace to convert each line into an insert statement with a semicolon at the end and just paste into whatever querying tool you have for your db
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the .sql export i made looks like: INSERT INTO "test" VALUES(1,blah,blah,blah);
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: prob is.. some fields are unused in the csv tab file
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: insert into "test" (col1,col2,...,colN) values (val1,val2,...valN);
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: right, that's the one :D
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's it.. i cannot use values as the pairs wouldnt be matched
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: In that case, you need to specify the fields you're inserting values for: INSERT INTO <table> (<field1>, <field2>, etc.) VALUES ('<value1>','<value2', etc.)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: likes are like: value1,value2,value3... value1,value3... value1,value2,value3
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: insert into "test" (your_id_col) values (your_id_value); update "test" set <col1> = <val1>, ... <colN> = <valN> where <your_id_col> = <your_id_value>?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahhh... i could add a field at the begining of the csv with id...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it's not the prettiest, but avoids the need to know all columns at once and can map line for line
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that i can do, it has no line numbers atm
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: where id = id.... hrm... there is no data in the db atm
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: guess i could add those 1st
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hmm... another possibility..
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just add id 1 to XXXX
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: create a temp table with the same structure as your target table but with an "ID" column on it...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then i would have something to "update"
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: table is empty atm... so no need temp
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: then you query the count of rows from your temp table and add one to get your new ID in the temp table
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thanks Mye... this will work :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... table eq has 69 columns but 1 values were supplied... INSERT INTO "eq" VALUES(1);
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: need: INSERT INTO "eq" VALUES(1,,,,,,,,,,,,etc i guess);
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: and the column names after "eq" (that correspond to the values)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: oh, or 68 nulls will work, too
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: if your db uses sql then you should be able to do key=value pairs seperated by commas ...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: naa... just add all but "id" as null to get a start
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: anything not indicated by key=value pair should default to 0 (or the appropriate null value for that data type)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: that syntax might be platform-specific? thought that was the first thing ozzy tried
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: define the columns as having defaut value of null...then insert into eq (column1) VALUES (valueofcolumn1)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahhh... INSERT INTO "eq" VALUES(1,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL,NULL.....
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: either that or INSERT INTO "eq" (columnname) VALUES (1)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: there... now i have a db with 7000+ lines and only "id" aint null :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: now i can do the update x=1 where id=x :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: why what?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: yup.. where the first x is a column name and the second x is your id value
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod Mye :) thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why populate the table with just an identity column and then update each record
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather than just populate the table with the values
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: tech -h... cause it works :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: So start again?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: he's importing a CSV where each line doesn't necessarily have a key value
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h contained nothing that would prompt me to do it that way...while it works, so does just adding rows :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't need to
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is a line from the csv...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Name: V3 Order Of The Sixth TierType: ArmorKeyword: tier order sixth medal pinFlags: glow, hum, magic, held, nopurge, keepflag, V3, precious, noshareworn: medalwt: 0worth: 0lvl: 1str: 12int: 12wis: 12dex: 12con: 12luck: 12hr: 60dr: 60allmagic: 10allphysical: 10area: A Bad Tripmob: immrowid: 7816
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: tabs missing here...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I suppose they don't all have immrowids?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but con: 12 might not be in all lines
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't need to be, ozzy
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it does now...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i just added <tab>rowid: unigque_num
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Ah, misread the last field.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, last word of previous value was tacked onto fieldname, because it didn't paste his tabs
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so doing search and replace on it con: 12    to con="12",
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (and pet peeve, that's a tsv...there's no such thing as a "tab csv" :P)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: like how everyone calls cmos bios
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You'll probably need to use single quotes, not double - double is usually reserved for other stuff.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, cmos is what holds bios...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: but most peop refer to the cmos as bios or is it another thing i am trying to think of
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sit like a Trurien nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: sorry coffee is not with me
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: modem.  one of the my favorite abused terms.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cmos is the flash-type technology that stores the bios :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: well, one of them
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the tsv(:P) will look like: INSERT INTO "eq" name="V3 Order Of The Sixth Tier", type="Armor", keyword="tier order sixth medal pin" ...etc.. WHERE rowid="7816";
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: ok what is the menu that people call the bios but it isn't really
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: That would fail, Ozzy
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: would be an update in that case
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: UPDATE eq SET field='<value>'
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so: UPTADE "eq" name="V3 Order Of The Sixth Tier", type="Armor", keyword="tier order sixth medal pin" ...etc.. WHERE rowid="7816";
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, now that you've prepopulated the rowids, there are no more inserts until you have new data
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...with single quotes
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ...you need the SET keyword, too.  SQL is very unforgiving that way
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: my top list for annoyingmisuse is when they call the whole computer the "CPU"
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: and the SET per pedwiddle's syntax above
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: none of the lines has double.. they will work...if i use singles ii will need to find all ' and replace with ''
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Most (if not all - I'm not aware of any that don't) databases won't accept double quotes around values.  They're reserved for other things.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for numerical values, you don't need any quotes
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: sqlite here... they been working
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If that's the case with yours, you'll need to find out how to escape the single quotes, then do your subs
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: to escape singles if i use singles to delimit... just double em
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not needed when i use doubles
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so... assuming doubles will continue to wrk...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: UPDATE eq SET x="1", y="2" where id='1';  ???
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: K - if it works, and you know it does, then that's fine.  As Abelinc said, however, you don't need quotes around numeric values.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try one :-)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont need = cant have?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can, just for future reference, and to save typing, you don't need them.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: when doing the search&replace on tsv.. i dont know which are which... text,int
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: most dbs will implicitly convert it.. going from numbers to strings is where problems are more likely to occur, though
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i aint typeing except once to s&r
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: typing*
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, recon does this for me: update room set RoomIsPrison = %recon_base_flag_prison, RoomIsSilent = %recon_base_flag_silent, RoomIsNorecall = %recon_base_flag_norecall, RoomIsNosummon = %recon_base_flag_nosummon, RoomIsNowhere = %recon_base_flag_nowhere, RoomIsOutdoors = %recon_base_flag_outdoors, RoomIsClanmaze = %recon_base_flag_clanmaze, RoomIsClanroom = %recon_base_flag_clanroom, RoomIsIndoors = %recon_base_flag_indoors, RoomIsNomob = %recon_base_flag_nomob, RoomIsNobeacon = %recon_base_flag_nobeacon, RoomIsNodrop = %recon_base_flag_nodrop, RoomIsNoexplore = %recon_base_flag_noexplore, RoomIsNohunger = %recon_base_flag_nohunger, RoomIsNomagic = %recon_base_flag_nomagic, RoomIsNoport = %recon_base_flag_noport, RoomHPHealRate = %recon_heal_rate, RoomManaHealRate = %recon_mana_rate where UID = %gmcp_room_info_num;
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Now tech -h Abelinc does it for me too *groan*
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: rofl
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Heh
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: in MUSHclient, how does one remove text from within a line of text without affecting the rest of the line? Specifically, I'd like to remove all the (M) flags from showing up on my items
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a #sub of sorts?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: well, probably. I guess i'll look it up when i get home from work
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Sorry, don't use MUSH.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's truly more trouble than it's worth...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: subbing in all clients (behind the scenes) is pretty much always "gag line, echo parts you care about back to output"...but unlike most others, with MUSHclient you actually have to perform those steps manually...and when you're dealing with possibly-colored text, it gets really cumbersome...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wheee... UPDATE eq SET name="V3 Order Of The Sixth Tier", type="Armor", keys="tier order sixth medal pin", flags="glow, hum, magic, held, nopurge, keepflag, V3, precious, noshare", worn="medal", weight="0", worth="0", lvl="1", str="12", int="12", wis="12", dex="12", con="12", luck="12", hr="60", dr="60", allmagic="10", allphysical="10", area="A Bad Trip", 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: had a few errors... no such field keywords, no such field wt.... but easy fixes
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: now to do the whole thing :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: with a switch statement is there a way at the end of it to do a "else" statement?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: think it's default
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: On Not sure in CMUD how it works though.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: #SWITCH ("case 1") {do this} ("case two") {do this} {else do this}
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ohh yah just thought of that. makes sense.  tnx Etz
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Only thing I miss in LUA is switch - I know many ways to do the same thing
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just don't look as neat
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if this then that elseif this then that elseif this then that end :p
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: and could add an else at the end there
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Mendaloth.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjakid Tech: anyone know of a good mud client for blackberry 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha... if var = true then doThings() else if var = false then doOtherThings() else MsgBox("omfg haxor alert") End --terminate program end if
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: get it right, if boolean = true then blahblahblah elseif boolean = false blah blah blah elseif LOLHAX
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Someone had that as actual code.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: .... really?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Huan Tech: I found tristate boolean with five possible values and three of them unsupported a bit better :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: I have a subroutine I commonly use called AggregatorSMASH
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: did "lightning" resist change to something else? no such column "lightning"
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: electric maybe?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: UPDATE "eq" SET name="a Crystal Earring", type="Armor", keys="crystal earring sprite", flags="glow hum magic", worn="take ears", weight="5", worth="5000", lvl="201", int="1", wis="1", dr="15", magic="2", light="2", lightning="2", energy="4", poison="-6", disease="-6", area="Sanctity of Eternal Damnation", mob="The Sprite Queen" WHERE rowid='6818';
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i got a message saying duckbat is an attack site - i looked at the html and see a reference to www.iws-leipzig.de - is this site hsting malware?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: O snap, I'm getting that too now...wtf happened?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare security_update() (previously declared in /home/duckbatc/public_html/index.php:1) in /home/duckbatc/public_html/main.php on line 1
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Site still works.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As far as the site itself hosting malware, probably not.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: i wonder how long till they get card readers for wireless ac
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amadeth Tech: i just got a message that duckbat.com contains malware and ill get virus' anyone know this to be true?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: quick, turn your computer off!
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Zero day exploit!
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GraySong Gregor is agreeing with that Starling person again...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: actually i have heard of a virus that when you turn off you computer does something to the controller to you hard drive
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. now it's reported in ff too...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: i wanna know how that works
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but ignoring shows normal with a line at the bottom...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare security_update() (previously declared in /home/duckbatc/public_html/index.php:1) in /home/duckbatc/public_html/main.php on line 1
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. So many people rely on Duckbat. Maybe you should learn to not rely on it so much. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: what is duckbat
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't get hooked.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And Duckbat is a person. *blink*
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: really thought what is it
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really though, Duckbat is a person.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli points to "finger Duckbat"
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: It's a duckbat.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: wow that duck bat person is almost tiered 10 times
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Duckbat T9R7L201 (8 Redos) Levels - 180.00% (25,326/14,070) | Experience - 141.67% (135,320,000/95,520,000) | SHs Complete - 180.00% (126/70)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. You don't tier past 9.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And many people have retiered quite a lot.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Finger Yowza. ;)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: wait what so why did they dot tthat
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Usually the oppourtunity to do lower level CPs and gquests, but sometimes just for the fun of it :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Many reasons. Fun. Dragging friends. Doing goals they've missed.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: what is the befit of teiring after tier 9 or what ever
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Think of t9 redos as "New Game+" on some RPGs. Why do you play through the game a second time? Or a third time, etc? :p
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: so teir after teir 7 other than another 20 levels of armor what is the benefit
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: and i amjust talking benefits not fun stuff or anything
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: what is the command to see who is connected from where?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: domains?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: networks?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: How do I change the fountsize in MUSH output?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: do any of you know how to add just the double to my prompt 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Traziun Tech: i don't wnat to add or los anything
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: type HELP PROMPT, Traziun, it explains what all the options are for.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you will absolutely need to rebuild your prompt, because Aardwolf doesn't currently have the option to just tack on more stuff while leaving the old stuff alone.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO tableName [(column-list)] VALUES(value-list)  <--- does "column-list" have to include every one with NULL in the missing values?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Korridel Tech: nope, you just need the values you're entering, as long as the remainder are null-accessible.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i prolly didn't set them NULL when i created em
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm.. sqlite manager in ff... value for each is "not null" 0
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Korridel rapidly nods twice at Hanslanda, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's ff?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: do i need to put NULL in the defauly value of each?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: firefox... using the sqlite manager plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: https://code.google.com/p/sqlite-manager/
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I went the free database manager software route.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: where is my error in this...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,type,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ('daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME','Daily Blessing Area Reset Token','Treasure','1','0','hold','paper','unique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3','The Wolf Administration','This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type ''reset area''.)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: missing final single quote or is that typo?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: doh... i just saw that period at the end..
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nope...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,type,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ('daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME','Daily Blessing Area Reset Token','Treasure','1','0','hold','paper','unique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3','The Wolf Administration','This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type ''reset area''.')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: depending on platform, type is a reserved keyword and would need to be enclosed in something (double quotes for sqlite??)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i will chane in script and db to eqtype
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: are you getting a descriptive error message?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ' and " are interchangeable in sqlite as far as I can tell.  But I would avoid depending on ' for string-quoting since items are allowed to use it in their name.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im doubleing when i see em
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: doubling even
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in cmud... bad logic
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Find and replace?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: SQL Error: SQL logic or missing database.  ... i can lookup items so it aint missing
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: same insert into firefox db manager...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: SQLiteManager: Likely SQL syntax error:  (the query) Exception Name: NS_ERROR_FAILURE Exception Message: Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [mozIStorageConnection.createStatement]
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you're missing a field --
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: level/worth/weight are all numeric but you have '1','0'
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's wierd... i did: #LOOPDB @item_ident {#ADDITEM $columns %key;#ADDITEM $data %val}
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: showdb shows: level: 1  worth: 0  weight: 1
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: does additem try to remove duplicates?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wonder wht the ADDITEM aint adding it
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahhhhhh
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: need ... thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: #ADDITEM doesn't add duplicates.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: need %additem... thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: hrm... no go
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ('daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME','Daily Blessing Area Reset Token','Treasure','1','0','1','hold','paper','unique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3','The Wolf Administration','This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type ''reset area''.')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: remove the ' around columns that are defined as numeric.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: thats gonna be difficult
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how so?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, I think I know what you're doing.  You're replacing | with ','?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: editinf that insert manually to see if that's it
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just have to add a %subregex afterwards that looks for '(\d+)' and replaces it with just the numeric part.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: removed and put into sqlite manager.. still errors
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in ff sqlite manager... INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ('daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME','Daily Blessing Area Reset Token','Treasure',1,0,1,'hold','paper','unique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3','The Wolf Administration','This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type ''reset area''.')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still errors
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: do you have to escape your comma in the "To use this token" blurb?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and confirmed that those 3 in that statement are the only 3 numeric
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont have to escape on mobdb
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: nvmrd its in quotes
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: try undoubling the single quotes in the values and switching to " for your string-quoting.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the double singles and single surrounding work in the mobdb
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: only diff is i add all fields to the mobdb
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: sqlite doc says to use double singles (checked for myself on that)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: how long are your fields? is the notes field long enough to hold all 106 chars?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and double them to escape them?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: err, 104
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: it's "TEXT" ?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't need to double them if your surrounder quotes aren't of that same type.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: do you have any other columns in this table that are defined to be not null?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: none
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES (", $data, ")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i hate dealing with doubles in zmud/cmud :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: do you already have a row in this table that would conflict with this one (based on the primary key field(s))?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ("daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAMEDaily Blessing Area Reset TokenTreasure101holdpaperunique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3The Wolf AdministrationThis token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type 'reset area'.")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: huh Mye? i aint specifying "id" and "id" is set to auto incement
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: "literal text"~""more literal text"~"
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $query = %concat( "INSERT INTO eq (", $columns, ") VALUES ("~", $data, "~")")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $query = %concat( "INSERT INTO eq (", $columns, ") VALUES ("", $data, "")")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: neither works
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no need for %concat().  Can safely do it implicitly.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try qualifying the database name .. should be optional but worth a shot (so <database>.eq instead of eq)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont need to in mobdb Mye
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: could you paste (or tell me) the current statement again?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so Hans...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $query = "INSERT INTO eq ("$columns") VALUES ("~"$data"~")"  <--?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: meant the sql version without the tokens
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: current is all screwed atm Mye :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay.. will go off last one :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: without %concat.. i cant get any double quotes around values...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think you have the last tilde on the wrong ", but yeah.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $query = {"INSERT INTO eq ("$columns") VALUES (~"$data~")}
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $data has the "'s before, but not after $query =
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, what?  Not sure I understood your last.  Are you saying $data ends with " but doesn't begin with one?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: unless i use concat,,, (VALUES) has no " in it just assigning $query
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Ozzy, email me your cmud setup/bot
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's your replace string?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: $data = %replace( $data, """, "~"~"");$data = %replace( $data, "|", "~",~"")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i been foobaring those too....
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: stupid double quotes
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: since you are assigning to $data and then using $data to build something assigned to $query, you probably have an extra step of parsing in there not being accounted for and so the parsing at that point automatically removes the outer quotes.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does ~ work?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... blew something up... ERROR: Syntax error in Alias: addeq : argument expected
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: bah, doubled tildes, I mean.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, I wouldn't put " inside more ".  Doing it like JSON is just going to make it confusing and hard to read.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i will use %char(34) in some places... gonna play with it a while
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: closer... VALUES ('daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME","Daily Blessing Area Reset Token","Treasure","1","0","1","hold","paper","unique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3","The Wolf Administration","This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type 'reset area'.')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ok...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: error: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ("daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME","Daily Blessing Area Reset Token","Treasure","1","0","1","hold","paper","unique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3","The Wolf Administration","This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type 'reset area'.")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep, just have to change your outer quotes to doubles, and replace the numeric values with quoteless versions.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: quoteless #'s in ff sqlite manager erros as well
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i think you should be using single quotes -- http://www.sqlite.org/lang_keywords.html -- if you happen to have a keyword in double quotes, it will interpret it as an identifier instead of a literal
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: can you start with something extremely basic in the UI (not cmud or whatever)?  insert into eq (keys) values ('this is a test')?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: best not to use a keyword, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but he's just taking the mud data
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: can't assume it doesn't contain a keyword.. if only flag is 'unique' that's a keyword
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ok, have tried 4 ways: 'text',0  ....   'text,'0' .....  "text","0"  .... "text",0  ... all 4 error
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: can you try just inserting one field with nothing special about it? build up to the current statement until it fails?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: will do: INSERT INTO eq (name) VALUES ("test");
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that worked
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try the fields from your original statement before the first number
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO eq (name,lvl) VALUES ('test','100');   <-- works
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay, and lvl is a numeric field right? (so it will implicitly convert and we can assume that's not the problem)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: lvl is INTERGER
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so  singles around all is not an issue
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: try this one? INSERT INTO eq (keys,name) values ('daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME','Daily Blessing Area Reset Token')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no error
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay.. let's check that the notes field didn't cause a problem: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,notes) values ('daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME','Daily Blessing Area Reset Token','This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type ''reset area''.')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no error
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: also doubles around all is no error
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: does original statement still error out?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: origjinal??
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: also no error on this: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,notes) values ('daily, blessin''g reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME','Daily Blessing Area Reset Token','This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type ''reset area''.')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: notice daily, blessin''g
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: how did that get like that?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i edited it
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: errors: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ("daily blessing DB-PLAYERNAME","Daily Blessing Token","Treasure","1","0","1","hold","paper","unique magic noreown V3","The Wolf Administration","This token.")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: shortest i can get it...
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: errors: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,level,worth,weight,wearable,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ('daily','Daily','Treasure','1','0','1','hold','paper','unique','Wolf','token')
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: just going to take a little trial and error for you to figure out which column in the statement is problematic
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod... gonna remove one by one
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: let's just start removing one field at a time until it doesn't error.. that will tell us which one
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye rapidly nods twice at Ozzy, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: did you design the table? are there any foreign key relationships or autonumber values? were any "extra" columns populated in the rows that you inserted with only one or two columns?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just ran the insert many time... removing one field/value pair each time... error on all
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: that doesn't seem right.. it ran successfully with only 1-3 of the columns before?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: here is the create line: http://pastebin.com/BhxfFy7Q
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nodnod
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im at a loss :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the error is in both ff and cmud?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh... lemme change another column name in cmud... think i was just being stupid..
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: INSERT INTO eq (keys,name,eqtype,lvl,worth,weight,worn,material,flags,area,notes) VALUES ("daily blessing reset token repop area DB-PLAYERNAME","Daily Blessing Area Reset Token","Treasure","1","0","1","hold","paper","unique magic held nopurge burn-proof nolocate solidified resonated illuminated nosteal noreown V3","The Wolf Administration","This token grants a single reset of any regular area. To use this token, hold it then type 'reset area'.")
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: there was no column named "wearable" ... worn
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye giggles.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep, that'd do it.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but it wasnt telling me till i only tried that by itself
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: now lemme go delete 50 "tests" :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you might want to also enclose your column names in "s -- not sure if it will complain about avg as a column name without them
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: (or call it avgdam instead or similar)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i will ident a weapon in a sec
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dubthach Tech: that is a crazy amount of columns
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: `eqfind %Daily Blessing Area Reset Token% --> [X] Id: 7843  (  1) Daily Blessing Area Reset Token  - The Wolf Administ  
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I've got 50ish for mine, but that covers all item types.  I use the value of the itemtype column to determine which of those columns I show to the user.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i have a similar database but it's object-based and i have child tables for things like resists
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: child tables... WHOOOSH.. over my head :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so can't see all the columns in a single table.. would need to join items to armor, for example
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: You people sure do put a lot of effort into your bots.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: it's a "post-relational" platform, so it just projects onto SQL tables -- the actual structure is much more flexible
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i just use aliases to call up what im looking for... throw enough AND's into the WHERE and i find it :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you know what linked lists are in programming, Ozzy?  Kinda the same thing.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh hush Starling.. how is a local alias akin to iwuvaard a bot :P
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i do not
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i know howto script.. past that.. not much
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: wow... i got cleanup todo... [X] Id: 7834  ( 16) a drink called a "Flaming Homer"  - The Town of Solac 
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in sql, you can set up different tables that use columns with the same name.  In your main table, you just put in the unique identifier in the shared column (do the same in your child table).  In your child table, you would then fill in the appropriate columns with the data you originally are putting in the separate columns in your main.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a lot like an alias, now that I think about it.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: so a db within a db kinda thing?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: well.. i gotta jet. THANKS ALL... i wouldn't have looked at the right things without all the input :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: more like a table within a table :)
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: how DO you use those, by the way?  I got how to design them, but I just never got to the point of referencing them.
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have madcatz lput script link?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: how do i get sharptracker to gt report stats?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: when dealing with relational tables, how do you refer to them?  Are they just automatically included based on the linked columns or do you have to specifically join them?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Roofles Tech: is there a way to ahve my spell list always open on the MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2012-10-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: In C++, if I have an object of a child class, how do I access it's inherited functions from it's parent class? I'm being told it's inaccessible.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone who is...rather intimately familiar with the aardmush gmcp mapper - if I was to add a few fields to the Areas table in the mapper db, would that break anything - i.e. does the mapper reference whole lines and expect a certain ending to them?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ninjakid Tech: so anyone know of a good mud client for blackberry 
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is it normal for 2.5 HD enclosures to not need a power cable?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: No
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You try pulling power like that through a USB cable you better hope it's not a hub port you plug it in to
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: apparently this one is powered by USB unless I'm missing something
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For a USB drive, yes, that's pretty common.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it has two USB jacks on the wire that's attached to it
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I mean, it's not working but I'm assuming maybe that's because the hard-drive inside needs formatting or something
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: my 3.5 enclosure has a separate power cable though
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: does anyone knows a linux version which works on stick and dosent need to be installed on comp?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: most of them
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: a name? :) and how to do it?copy-paste on stick?or need to make it bootable?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: bootable,
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: debian
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: if you google usb boot linux you'll get alot
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thx alot
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jjo Tech: you'll need to download an image
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: help update
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Oops sorry.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Anybody use Mush and Wink's plugins?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I use the spellup plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Can you update Mush and still keep plugins?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I guess you you have to reload them
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yes -- I install via subersion which is harder to start with but makes this straightforward
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: how do I reduce the filesize of an image without turning it black/white, cropping it or reducing image size
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: got photoshop?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I need a 600x600 photo, and it's 60kbs too big
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Yep
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: That's what I've been working on
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: open the photo, press ctr + alt  + shift + s
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You can sometimes reduce the bits per pixel, iirc
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: then you can switch to a smaller file size
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Lecithin, what does that do? I'm on a mac and it doesn't do anything
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: you can make it a different file type and specific what kind of image quality you want, and it tells you how big the file size will be before actually changing it
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: oh just go to file save for web
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: I dont know the mac command version, but its just the shortcut for "save for web"
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: ohhh got it
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: thanks a bunch!
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: np
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: in cmud, is there someway i can update %roomnum to gmcp via a trigger? tried doing #call maplocked(0), roomnum = %gmcp.room.info.num, #call maplocked(1)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: mapper should detect and use the vnum
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: use #call 0
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: on new rooms it does
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: meh
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: use #call %roommode(0)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: Note: Return value and SetvNum are vNum's irregardless of %roommode.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %roomnum(vNum,SetvNum)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: oh, yes just trigger off the gmcp
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: pita tho to update the whole mud heh
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's what i tried
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: gmcp trigger on room.info
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Mapper probably has to be in map mode.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: for it to update
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and i DID #CALL %maplocked(0)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: and its not updating?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod...
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: did you make sure your gmcp trigger fired?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but a rnum alias that does the same thing works if i use #LOOK in it
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: yes with a #show
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: GMCP: manor [10661](10661)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: that's after manually setting
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: right
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i can leave mapper in edit.. go into a room, nothing... #LOOk... updates it
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: if the trigger is firing and your using the right syntax then not sure.  It works for me entering fromt he command line
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: well #LOOK reloads the room so of course that works
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: what are you using to set the rnum in the gmcp trig?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: from command line: GMCP: manor [10645](30zmud)... ... #CALL %maplocked(0);#CALL %roomnum(10645);#CALL %maplocked(1)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no change... GMCP: manor [10645](30zmud)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: from command line #CALL %maplocked(0);#LOOK;#WAIT 1000;#CALL %maplocked(1) ... works
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: using #LOOK sucks... have to have the WAIT between maplocks off/on
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even if i click the map exit mode icon in mapper... #CALL %roomnum(10645) doesn't set from the command line
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: edit mode*
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: your right its not setting vnum, hmm
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: dont wanna mess with roomvnums... only roomnum
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: you mean you dont want to mess with roomkey
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just vnum
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: all my mobdb,eqdb are using the old roomvnums
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: theres a key, and theres a vnum
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: roommode 0 uses vnum vs key
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im in roommode 1 always....
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: untill i have gmcp info for all rooms
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: #show %roomnum %roomvnum %gmcp.room.info.num  --> 31 11582 10646
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i need to alter %roomnum ,,, dont wanna mess with %roomvnum's
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: for me, its all the same
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I get same number for each #show
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: just opened and checked zmud.... maplocked 0, roomnum(999) maplocked 1 works
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: cause you use roommode 0
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and mapped since gmcp
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: %roomnum=0 to %numrooms for that area ... %roomvnum=global vnum on mine
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ahh... needed a comma in call roomnum.... #CALL %maplocked(0);#CALL %roomnum(,%gmcp.room.info.num);#CALL %maplocked(1)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: anyone know how to display the date time from Oracle in PHP?  echo date("m/j/y h:i a", strtotime($dwn_st_time))  gives the date but the time is 12 midnight.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: You need to be storing a timestamp, not a date, most likely.  It's probably a data issue.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: the date is DATE datatype in the format: "10/26/2012 11:22 AM"
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I can't change the format of the data going into the database.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: if you are able to manipulate string formatting then i cannot see any reason why not
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Check for valid values to strtotime, then
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: what I mean is, I do not control the data going into the database.  I can only query this DB.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: If it's saying midnight, that means that the time portion isn't being picked up
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm searching.  I don't strtotime is what I'm supposed to use here
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: edwiddle that's what I'm afraid of
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: @Pedwiddle that's what I'm afraid of
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: ok I figured it out.  I wasn't getting the time from the Oracle query.  I had to use TO_CHAR() to grab it.  
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nvidia gt640, gt650 or amd hd7700?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well, i ordered an nvidia 650ti in preference to a 640silent
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: boggle, a cd that ImgBurn will not make an iso of. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: nero?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't have it, but will try cdburnerxppro
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nope, that won't work either
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Has anybody that uses the Aardwolf MUSHClient ever seen a small window that says Aardwolf MUSHClient Package: Getting Started at the top?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: must have some kind of crazy copy protection
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: np, will find a nocd crack
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: pirate copy of Windows 8?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Ok ... there's this new focus on botting. There's also this spellup script that automatically recasts buffs as they fall. Sometimes after a fight you can end up stuck there for 10-15 seconds while everything recasts. Is that something that would get you in trouble?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I'm not talking about using it as a cover for anything... just running that one script. Is that cool? Or should it be turned off before I go hunting?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Respell scripts are allowed.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: Ok cool. I've just been reading a lot about it on announce and mudinfo and such, and I wanted to make sure. Thank you for the info.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it was ok even before it was officially allowed
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: help botting, help is this botting, help stacked commands, etc. will be good things to read as well as the boards :) gives some specific examples in those too
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I'd seen the other ones, but 'help is this botting' is new to me, I'll definitely read that one.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I don't do the type-ahead thing, where I try to clear one area with a series of stacked commands. And I don't use autorun/autokill scripts. I just wanted to be sure that the beneficial aspects of a spellup script were considered a problem.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I type fast enough that I don't need much automation.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: yeah, i just have the "spellup" command sent as a response to every tick message, and it works out fine
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}An Oath Tech: I appreciate the information. Thanks much, guys.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Anyone know what Darsalla was asking about earlier?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: looks like either a firstrun window or some sort of plugin window.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: both. I just don't know what the question was about it
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I guess she was curious about what it was.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it explains what it is
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: does anyone have experience with computer vision?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is that when everything starts looking pixelated?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Devak Tech: No, I think it's when things start looking like Tron
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: or when you computer looks at you and "sees" tron
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: was that all you wanted to know, then?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I'm working on a program to define the outline's of lung airways
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: but I thought I would tell you something, but it got an error.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: fiendish i'm working on integrating 
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: these are not complete thoughts
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I know, I'm doing ot/pt on my typing.  When I try to tell you something, I'm getting the no one tell error
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just use tech channel
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the what error?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and don't type like an mxit person, more people will be able to understand you and possibly even offer helpful thoughts.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I thought you had a question about computer vision
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I will sorry, I was thinking it would be bad to flood the channel.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I'm working on distilling it to a clear question
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you already have, and it's not helping. :P
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you are temporarily visto now
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can send tells if you want
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: an thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: sorry if I'm not making sense.  I am still in recovery.  But in general, I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate geometry after selecting everything in a color mask.  I have mouse lungs that were stained (various types, PAS for example) so that the cells aren't clear but colored.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what does that have to do with lung airways?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nevermind. I don't know what you mean by "after selecting everything". Is this in some kind of computer program?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also "incorporate geometry" is pretty vague
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's your end goal?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: Well I'm working on a java script in Fiji (version of imagej).  Final goal is to define the outline of the airways in the slice of lung.
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what kind of image? 
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mouse lungs are pretty small. is this a photograph of a dyed tissue slice?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: no it is a mosaic of images taken at 400x
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: roughly 2gb in size
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sure. a large photograph
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: has it been stitched, or is that what you're trying to do?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: I've already got the stiching working, that was step one 
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and step 2 is to segment the airways, which I assume are visually distinct in some way?
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: yes, but the in some way is where I'm getting a little stuck.  I can illiminate about 70% of background via color with good staining, now I'm working on noting how else to define the airways
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll have to excuse my ignorance on the subject of mouse lung slidework. I realize that a lot of CV deals with medical images, but that I'm not a biologist
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it might help if I knew kind of what it looks like
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: i mean there might not even be a good metaheuristic solution so i might be up a creek (I have hundreds of lungs to anotate and about a hundred airways per lung slice)
T3/r7/2012-10-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: sorry mistell
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have a subscription to one of the online tech-book places like Safari?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: ok soz - not the field  for this but desparate - IM vit B injections - anyone across this ? 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'm sure google has.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: no info on legality over the counter .. and no contact carries it 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: most of thats going to be highly dependent on location
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: dammit I can buy anything from the current Oz sniper rifle to heroin - just can't but IM vit  B
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: language, Tzad
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: TY for the heads up Del .
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Language?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: What did he say?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: borerline swearing 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: dammit?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: and She 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Because damn has a helpfile :)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well, I'll be damned
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: anyone had experience with IM vit B shots ? 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: hmm...isnt this a bug when you add a portal to mapper i see it changes the portal index...
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so if i have a plugin which change my portals level when i add a new portal the plugin is fk up...
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so..any ideea how can i change portals level without them beeing fkup on adding portals?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: a say what?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Why on earth are you changing a portal's level?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: mapper portallevel #index level is the command to change a portal level
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: because i need it..ofc:)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just do it with sqlite direct
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i am opening aardwolf.db but cannot find portal table
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: mapper portallevel <ind> <lvl>
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thx seanjac...you helped me alot :))
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SeanJac Tech: welcome :)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That's a good point...wonder where they're stored...hrm
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: any ideea where are them stored vak?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i was thinking on cexits...
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yep..they are stored in exits table
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: select * from exits where fromuid like '*' and you see all of them
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: local q = "select area, name, fromuid, touid, dir,level from exits, rooms where exits.touid=rooms.uid and exits.fromuid in ('*','**') order by area,touid"
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That is the selection statement you want, you can then update the records you receive.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: heh...i know how to do it since i found the table..my problem is that portallevel is bugged imo :)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can I just say, in case any of the original designers are listening...wtf is with that design decision? :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: anyway its eassier to modify the mode how the portal are stored vak then made it like that :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what is the easiest way to program an app to smartphones? and to make it also work on browsers.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i know js a bit.. and not much more
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: could someone who knows zmud/cmud map look at this and see if my thinking is correct that it shows all rooms in current area that possibly still use old num for %roomnum instead of gmcp vnum? http://pastebin.com/v7qvEien
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Greetings... I'm playing Aardwolf on mxit. And I wanted to know, how do you add group reports and quest alerts on groups?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: As far as I know mxit doesn't have plugins.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: On mxit? I dont think you can
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i dont think mxit has triggers?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: That sucks... And what about on a pc?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: plenty of ways.. many clients
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Okay, how would it be done?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: too many answers
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: the easiest way preferably...
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: diff for each client
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: depends on the client
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Java client?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In Lua if I have a local array, call it lclarray, and I have another array, array2 will array2[1] = lclarray do a deep copy or just put a pointer to the local that gets destroyed when we leave the function?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In mushclient plugin if that matters.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: wait... A friend of mine is using the mush client. And I need to know how to put the reports on through it.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what kind of reports. I think there are several Mush plugins that deal with groups. Not sure though
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: There are, but there is really no way for you to send information to their plugin in mushclient.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol is that what he wanted. Totally misread the question then
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: like, how many mobs killed in the last minute.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: and quest alerts.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Do you want how many mobs YOU killed to be tracked in the OTHER person's mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: well, he's in my group so he can access it. How many mobs we killed in the last minute.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Technically he probably can access, as long as he is the same room, but there are no public plugins that track that right now.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: And private?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: and what about Quest alerts?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's the same.  I don't know of anything that's out there publicly, and well if someone made one themselves they haven't posted it widely.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: I see. Okay then, thanks for the help
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what kind of quest alerts are you talking about?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: to alert us when our quest timer reaches 0.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: like this prolly.... (Group) Ozzy: 'Quest Time! (automatic)'
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: yes!!
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you need a standalone client
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: His friend has mush so his friend should be able to install that plugin and get the info
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Eh, okay then.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: how does he install it?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: tell him to ask here when running mush with the plugin downloaded
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sl
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: he'll be here now. Name's Nerokaze.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: He's seriously shy!
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: So, what exactly could I tell him to do?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nothing. Have him ask here after he downloaded the plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: which plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: thank you!!
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Now that I do not know. I think Ozzy can answer that
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: And found the answer to my question from earlier - if you assign a local array to row of a global array - it doesn't go poof when the local array does.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no clue... some mush user would have to say which plugin
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Music man Darsalla Tech: Okay I upgraded Mush. Someone told me to save my alias. Where do I put the file that was saved in the new MUSHClient folder?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm   See the part under "Upgrading the client"
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using AL client?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: type clients
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ah, one other person...
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using Puppy Linux or Lubuntu?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i wish you could: put {897234496 897175950 897175949 896457784 895773122} 891208180 and have it be one command like put all.blah is
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: mana
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: i dont know whats happening buy when i type an item i get this underneath it {invmon}7,897344586,-1,-1,what does this mean?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: type invmon to turn it off
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: thank you :) how did this toggle on though, because i did not type invom before
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: might have by accident? not sure
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: maybe your client did it if your on MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: oh and the same for my spellups {affoff}133??
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: did you switch clients?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: or are you on a different client than norm?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: no i upgraded
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: upgraded what?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: which client?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: the MUSHclient
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: the vers you were using before was gagging those tags
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: the scripts were
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: now they arent because they arent there
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats why your seeing them now
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: oh how can i remove them? 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you follow the instructions for upgrading the client on the aardwolf website?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: if you did it properly, you wouldn't have this problem
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Ill let someone more familiar with MUSH help you cause I use cmud
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: yes i did
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: did you reimstall all the plugins you used before you upgraded?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I mean after the upgrade did you also install all the plugins you used previously
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: no i havent addded any additional plugins
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Anyone know what would cause my microphone to stop working?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It works fine on my laptop
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It registers as being connected to my desktop, but there's just no input
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you have any other mics on the descktop?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I've tried rebooting already too
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: none built into monitor or something?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Under recording devices I have "Microphone" which is on the headset that is plugged in, and a "Line in" which says it isn't plugged in
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: check whether the microphone is muted
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It's not muted
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no headsets or phones or any other kind of input?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: That's just recording devices
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Playback devices has a bunch
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: hdmi output, monitor output, speakers, realtek digital output
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: verify whther the microphone input volume is sufficient
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I did
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It doesn't read ANYTHING I say
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not asking what windows shows, asking whats physically connected... driver installe dor not
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I have a headset with a mic on it
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: tried another mice on the same port?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It's the only thing plugged in
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mike I mean
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I don't have another mic, but there's a rear mic input that I tried and had the same issue
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It's not a usb headset, it's got a seperate input for speakers and mic
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: unplug headset(and usb dongle if one), close all apps that your trying to use the mic on, replug the mic, then open the sound recorder and try it
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: with Windoze, there may be two volume programs active -- the Windows volume, and the Soundcard volume  (seen that happen)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: assumint win7 here btw?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: had a friend have issues with the mic and a headset
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: tried closing everything and replugging, still nothing
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: with the headset unplugged?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and usb adapter too if it uses one
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Unplugged everything, then closed everything, plugged it back in
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I was using a voice chat program
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: past that, check what Zade said.. make sure the headset didnt install some other sound manager
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Friend can hear the music I'm listening to, but not me talking
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: you need to close all apps using the headset, and any you want to use the mic on
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: 7 is wierd on releasing sound ports
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Wouldn't rebooting have fixed that issue though?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: Re: your original question, I can only surmise it's the same thing that caused my speakers to quit working.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: was the headset unplugged on reboot?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: No
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then leave headset unplugged(and adapter), reboot, try mic
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Still nothing =(
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: When plugged in, the Realtek HD Audio Manager pops up, but it's always done that
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and you used the realtek manager to set the volumes?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: It was working fine yesterday =/
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im out of ideas... assuming the jack is ok as realtek manager sees it
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: what changed since yesterday?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Nothing
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: That's why I'm so stumped
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: im out of ideas :(
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I shut down last night, opened today and nothing
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I thought it was the mic itself forever, until I tried it on the laptop and it worked fine =/
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: last thing to try is a mic from a friend. Maybe it is the hardware of the computer
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: also download/burn/reboot into a linux live CD... see if the mic works there
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: to check the jack
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: wat
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yeah might wanna try the linux live
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: even this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: Just tried a usb mic that I found and it works
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Solarpower Inicus bursts into tears.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: possible bad jack
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: test in linux
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I tried both the front and rear ports =/
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: break in the wire
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: still best to check in another OS
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: at least you can exclude windows as the problem then
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: not totally...
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mic:check, sound hardware:unknown, windows:unknown (usb mic doesn't test the sound card)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: teachme
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: boot into linux, mic works... hardware:ok, windows:problem
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: that's what I meant.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh.. missed the then:P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: No I just said it a bit bad
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: re-reading i got it :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but yea Inicus... your still down to one of TWO possible problems in my mental flowchart
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the realtek sound shuold have no issues in linux... so boot to that and try it
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if it works... you got windows issues
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: So in the event that it does work with linux, what would I do to fix it?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nfc then :P i hate 7 :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: lol, damn
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: my friend was doing WoW, teamspeak, and had a skype phone... all 3 would NOT play nice together in 7... downgraded to XP.. all was good
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: when the mic works, the mic was moved, maybe the possible break in the wires was reconnected - recheck the mic works elsewhere 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: I'm just running wow and mumble
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Solarpower Inicus Tech: The mic works elsewhere, I already check
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: win7 has some issues with microphones
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: more then some imo :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I too had to downgrade one on my computers
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i worked for hours on hers... then put XP on another drive i had for her... zero issues with all 3 apps
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: microphones may add subliminal data to music increasing the difficulty of detecting pirated music
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i will likely use XP till i cannot find drivers anymore or some critical sw wont run on it
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I'll just keep runnig xp on the computer where I need the mics on
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: or until WINE works with EVERYTHING i run :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i got 7 on a netbook... the only reason i boot it is to look at some setting when helping someone with an issue
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: oh and one crak for Skrim sans Steam that wouldn't run on XP
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: webpapes aren't what they used to be... browsing can gobble up ram in a hurry... even with 8 gb's of ram i had to restart IE a few times
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: uh mis :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: eww... IE :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: then i use triggers to format it and add MXP links :)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: but yea, another script... http://i.imgur.com/YoGbH.png  ... i should mud some day :P
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Greetings... Which plugins can I use for Mush client to activate Group reports and quest alerts?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: type "group" to see a report of your group
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: winkle's has it i believe
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: he wants more...
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no, winkle doesn't. bast has plugins that have that kind of output, you just have to change it from echo to gt
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: I mean to show, for example, how many mobs killed in the last minute.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: aint seen that one... but bast has an hour reporter
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I Bast also has a plugin that tells you when to quest
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: I'm mainly looking for the quest alert plugin..
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: So far this hour: EXP:35 DoubleEXP:35 GOLD:$11486 (1 kills with avg 35 exp.)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. i should go kill
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: bast has one
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: Okay, i'll ask him when he's online, as such. Thanks for the aid.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: type "finger bast"  ... has links
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: finger bast. You can download "winiwin quest" and "broadcast quest" from the site
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you need both
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anarchist Kingdagon Tech: I see. I shall see it done.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone using Puppy Linux  or Lubuntu?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I used puppy for a while
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: have you played Aardwolf on Puppy?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: currently using WattOS, just slightly stripped down version of ubuntu
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, wouldn't "labuntu" go better with "puppy linux"? }:>
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: actually, puppy has really poor facility for cofiguring certain wireless adapters and I never got the internet going
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: abe, bad pun. penalty box, 10 minutes
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i prefer a debian net install, then JWM for old machines
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc goes to spend 10 minutes with Majic
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: puppy had an excellent boot time though, the OS is also designed to work without a hard-drive
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have an old system with Windows 98
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it connects to the internet fine
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but modern MUSHclient won't run
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: windows 8 is better than iPad ! 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: 3.84 MUSHclient works
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: will MUSHclient work with Puppy Linux?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: check if wine runs on it, if so mushclient should work
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I think maybe puppy is very similar to slackware
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yes, it is
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i remember Slakware... 1st distro i ever ran way back in the floppy days
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anyone tried Lubuntu?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: its alright
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: have you tried playing Aardwolf on Lubuntu?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: i use mudlet which runs natively on linux
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: muschlient wont work right for me on anything ive tried it on
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: besides windows
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: pretty sure lubuntu will run wine, which runs MUSH no problem
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: does that have the miniwindows like MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaelynne Tech: i like mudlet 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I run MUSHclient through WINE, has all the functionality of running it on windows OS
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: there is an aardwolf package you can install in mudlet but its not as good as the mushclient setup
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it has miniwindows, but has very little in the way of peer support, unfortunately
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: thanks guys
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I have a few options to try :-) 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Vost, if you're not developing your own plugins, you should probably run Mushclient. ALso, seriously, you can buy a used computer from the last decade for like 20 dollars on craigslist or whatever, and then reformat it and hvae a computer capable of running XP or whatever
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: or set up a windows virtual box in the linux system if mushclient wont run through wine
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Like, assuming you're in the US, the amount of time you've spent working on this greatly outweighs the cost of a new computer, even figuring minimum wage.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: these days, most toasters are capable of running aardowlf.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Mushclient runs through WINE just fine.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: i have linux mushclient crashes all over the place for me
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I live in the UK
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zane Tech: but i think its graphics issues because ati has bad drivers
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the PC would run XP
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Okay, you're still in a first world country and you can get a used computer for next ot nothing.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, both Gammon and Fiendish run MUSHclient through wine all the time
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but I would need to get a disk & install it
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Zane, yea, that's all on you, nothing to do with WINE. 
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim points excitedly at Drunk'ing Abel!
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Drunk'ing Abel on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim sighs.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: but it works fine
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: im running everything through wine (OSX)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It doesn't work fine if you spend an hour a day on tech trying to get it to work.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: That's like saying "my car runs fine" when you have to push it down a hill to get the engine to catch, or drive it backwards for a block before the lights turn on or whatever :p
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no, it does everything else that I need it to do
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, the good old days of crap $100 cars!
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: maybe the car you bought was a lemon, but others who bought the same model car had no problem with it
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i remember "decent" cars for $100 in high school
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who needs floorboards, anyway?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: and the "If you can get it to run, it's yours" cars from farmers pastures
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's usually not even if you can get it to run...it's if you can get it the hell off my property ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh, nod.. i owned a ot of those
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: just for coding purposes, are there any 4 digit spell numbers?
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: help slist, fwiw
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: They currently only go up to 610, but presumably in the future there could be four digit skills/spells.
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: in the far far future
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav smacks Doc Holliday out of his boots with a sign reading "It's coming in v7 !!"
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Volos Tech: slist is fun thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: you guys know, did an aardwolf player/imp write the blowtorch software for android
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phazer Tech: or is aard just using blowtorch
T3/r7/2012-10-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Augen Tech: Anyone know of an auto-practicer/trainer for mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: test
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how do i improve my speed of my ps2 emulato btw i dont use graphics card
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: if you don't use a graphics card, you wouldn't be able to hook up a monitor =p
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: it could be  via kvm or remote :p
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Remote.. fair enough. But youd need one on the remote system =p and kvm still requires a graphics adapter
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Electrobite peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ye true :p
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: oh yeah and dont think hm trolling, how do i make an image file to play it on my pcsx2?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Electro.. do you own the games you're trying to play?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: So you've already got the discs for the ps2 then =)
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: thought  he wanted to emulte the  system on pc ?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: [27 Oct 22:01:42] Electrobite Tech: oh yeah and dont think hm trolling, how do i make an image file to play it on my pcsx2? <-- less i misunderstood, he wanted to burn it to play on his ps2. maybe i dont understand his language well
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BullE Tech: whats a pcsx2,thats the real question, lols
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: pcsx2 is a ps2 emulator
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i  just read that as  wanting ps3 os image  to run on a pc :p
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}THe HuLk Topfox Tech: so im trying to make and alias to do mapper cexit open w:w when i type www but for some reason it isent working keeps saying that isent a command any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It has to do with the ;
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Which is not : btw
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Mmm.  Do "mapper cexit open w;;w"
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}THe HuLk Topfox Tech: i know but i cant type it here or
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}THe HuLk Topfox Tech: ok let mt try
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: send to execute?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And yes, TWO semicolons.
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: since "mapper" is a mush alias
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I personally use the 1 alias, md *, which sends mapper cexit open %1;;%1
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}THe HuLk Topfox Tech: IT WORKS! thanks :))
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: does "alerts or beeps" work in mushclient through wine
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: they do
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: no vost xp but should be on 98 prolly
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: if i put a laptop in a microwav and turned it on..which would die first?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: laptop
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: duh!
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: okay good lol. i cant wait to microwave this thing
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if u gonna kill one might as well kill the other :p
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: hehe the microwave isnt to bad really i was just hoping they didnt like..take eachother out after 10sec or so xD
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: is lua that heard to learn?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no but I think it differs from person to person
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: just from looking it reminds me of a few lang i know already
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lycanthroat Tech: mainly want to just fixup some of these scripts bast has that dont work or have some things missing capture info
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Does anyone else sometimes feel as if the success of your life is directly correlated to amount of consecutive operating systems you have running in one room?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: someone tell gregor tell pls =)
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thx
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thanks all
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soradin Tech: Soradin hello, I was wondering if anyone could give me some assistance on my client. I'm running iOS pocket mud.
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: I got the bastmush spellup plugin its only doing half my spells then stops what am I missing it worked fine for months.
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: try spellup refresh;spellup all?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: ill give that a go 
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: is it stopping on a specific spell ?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: last thing i see is "I belch and pass out" whatever that is
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: try spellup refresh;spellup all?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tater Tot Vinatia Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: i think it was the pass without trace i removed it seems to be working now thanks guys 
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. you dont have a profile pic... so im left with a mental image... http://www.technomaly.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/fat_dude.jpg
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: heh.. MIS
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endian Tech: wow.
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: has anyone encountered a problem with pci-wireless card? the computer hangs if the antenna is screwed in,, I have never seen a network adapter to make the computer freeze..
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably drivers problem
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: i have seen one make it shutdown... but it would up being a bad psu
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: a normal NIC, any time a network cable was plugged... computer would shut off
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it only freezes when the antenna is in
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that means there was grounding problem
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: replaces the power supply... issue gone
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: no ground problem
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: either way ground or damagesd PSU - you can observe that when you are electrocuted by your computer or when it restarts / turn off after connecting network cable or other external cable device
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: ground was fine... just a weak psu
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: the nic waking up put it over what current it could hndle
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: if you unplugged something else... like the hard disk... the nic would post fine and boot via network
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: ah got it, just too low power
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozzy Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A State Of Euforia Tech: Anyone know a free client for iphone that you can connect to aard with?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drakoth Tech: is blowtorch android only or do they have an iphone version?
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lecithin Tech: android only
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A State Of Euforia Tech: Can't find it on iphone for some reason, so I figure its android only
T3/r7/2012-10-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: I tried to open mush yesterday and it bugged out.  Restarted my computer and it won't load my client set up and lost my alias.  I now try to open mush and it attempts to open my miniwindow and they all fail.  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: sense microsoft stopped hosting gadgets anyone know a good site to download some?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: looking for best app on iphone. anyone? already try imud - pocket mud
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: anyone have a clue why xrt + mapper cannot find aylor?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I'm sure it never used to do this. Once in Aylor it can find other rooms in Aylor, it just won't get to Aylor from outside it.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BrokenBot Covenant Tech: how to fix damn cannot open the clipboard message?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vannel Tech: damn you Sandy! for delaying my Nexus 7 3g launch and Android 4.2...!!
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: does the Aardwolf android client's sent/received data count towards your monthly data total?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarfen Tech: any help with the proper syntax of a spellup trigger. im using an android based client
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarfen Tech: self spellup only for def
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarfen Tech: anybody home
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalados Tech: anyone know if the data the android client uses counts towards your monthly cellphone data limit?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would assume it would
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is still data
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarfen Tech: any help with def trigger syntax. already verified not botting
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no idea. i type stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sc
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Skarfen Tech: k thx neway will figure it out
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: after installing aardmush 1700 i keep getting this message: 
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i disabled all plugins that i have installed my self
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: what message?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: Nobody found with that name.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: are they jumbled cps
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: how can i fix this?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: you cant, the point of scrambled mobs is to fool triggers.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: actually i think i'm trying to door to someone. just got message You lost your concentration while trying to cast doorway.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: have detects up?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: detects?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: detect hidden/invis
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: awareness/true sight/aardhelm
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: what is triggering this doorway spell?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: no idea.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: go look in your triggers.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well it triggers this without anything new on the screen
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is there somekind of a log to see?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: you should be able to scroll up and see what happened just prior to the trigger firing.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: well nothing
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: can you check all the scripts in client for keywords such as 'doorway'
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: check this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60672885/Untitled.jpg
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: check this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60672885/Untitled.jpg and this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60672885/Untitled-1.jpg
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i reinstall this without any triggers
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: i'm using mushclient. I'm trying to make an alias with multiple commands. i tried using two semicolons to separate these commands but it won't work. tried with single as well, what could i be doing wrong?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landion Tech: try putting each command on a new line, no 
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landion Tech: no 
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Landion Tech: no semicolon, and send to execute
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: still won't work
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweetchickx Tech: nvm, worked. thank you
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you're welcome
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: still back with my problem. unpacked aardmush 1700 and logged in. it is still trying to cast doorway
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: i'm out of mana, so it says You don't have enough mana to cast 'doorway'.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: is it a bug or something
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: i already told you. go into 'triggers' find the one that is casting door and delete it.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: triggers are empty
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: and why would clean install have a trigger
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: You sure you didn't create a mudside alias?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Type "alias" to see them.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: in mud aliases i have on alias p = cast door vesiahv
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jedhi Tech: it is an alias, not a trigger
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: just delete that alias?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: Does anyone know if the ASUS Transformer TF300TG model is available in the US yet?  http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_TF300TG/
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: I'm looking for a good Android 3G tablet
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there a way to make a note in a trigger or alias in a non lua mush trigger or alias
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hea
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what do you mean "make a note"?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: in lua you can use a -- but i'm using basic code in mush
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Send to output
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: he is askinf if he can comment something on alias trigger
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yes that would be a better way of puting it lol commenting out a line in mush
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i doubt that you can
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you should can if you Send to Script...i think :) and then using -- like in lua
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah of course you can in lua :P
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's not what he was asking
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: no santher...i was saying that he can create an alias/trigger and Send to Script
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: that in Mush
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that works?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: should work..never tried thought
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can use echo if you want - it will still send the line to the mud, but it won't do anything but repeat it
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i didn't wanna have to re code the alias but i guess i will
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: pretty sure send to script has to be in a scripting language :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can also convert the alias to lua - wrap all lines in 'world.Send()' or 'world.Execute()' and then use --
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yep...but you do it from mush :P
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But you cannot comment in a send to world or execute
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: its like vak said
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i never bothered with world. just Send() Execute() etc
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yep...same shit :) i like SendNoEcho() function :P
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is that the same as using the diplay my input option?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: SetOption ("display_my_input", 0)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: guess so
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah cool useful for 1 line i guess :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: easier to use setoption for spammier chunks :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: and you can make comments on aliases to
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: still here akuri?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you can insert a comment...but it ulgy way :))
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: the comment you create need to be another alias
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: yea i just moved it over to lua script knew how to do it that way 
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: like..alias here is my comment Send Blank...alias myalias Execute here is my comment \n your command
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: though it seems a little silly that you can't just comment out a line without having to do a work around so to speak
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: thank you for the replies now i know
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: thing that alias use Send function...so everything you write in that alias box is like Send(what you wrote in box)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so you try to comment something in a function :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher never uses comments :P
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: /// this is a comment to remind me of something
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: i use them mostly to remind me or sometimes when i try new things so i can remember what i did or if it doesn't work i can just uncomment or erase the new code if it doesn't work
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i need help with math. i have two line segments in 2d space and one of the lines will move some amount, i need to find out at which point do the lines start intersecting and push back the moving line enough that it will not be currently intersecting, the lines may be parallel, anyone have any advice?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: offering 5 tp if anyone can help me get it to work
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: lol.. can you give some more details on the setup? (what are you given about the segments -- start/end points, or parameterized equation.. how is the segment moving? -- would assume it's in the direction it's "pointing" but which end point dictates that)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes segment is made of two points, and it can move in any direction for example in one update it can move +5 on X and -10.3 on Y
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: how are we describing the line segment? (or which field of math perhaps) .. e.g. if we have two points (or vectors) A, B that are end points, we can describe it as A*(1-t)+B*t ... but we could also say we have y=mx+b but only defining for a given segment x in (x0,x1) or similar..
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: A is a point and B is a point, for example A (0, 5) B(5, 5) is a line parallel to X plane and length of 5
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i'm writing a computer program, this is how i have the line in code
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay.. soudned like collision detection for a bit there :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doku Tech: -10
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes it is exactly that
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you're using a linear algebra package?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: or matrix algebra package (e.g. opengl)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know what that means
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: probably not then :) .. want to know if you're using vector objects for these points and can, for example, just call a dot product or cross product function
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i can implement those functions so yes
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: testing parallel is easy -- cross product is 0 so can short circuit there .. now time for me to remember my linear algebra (actualyl did this in past.. will try to walk you through it)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: cross product = 0 isnt perpendicular?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: yes but if they are parallel they can still collide if one of the lines moves through the other
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: if the slopes of them are equal then they are paralel
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: dot product gives you projection mosi, so dot =0 would be perpendicular
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: then you find out the new slop when you move it
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: so when you move a line you find out the slop of it
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: then you compare it with your second line
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: if the slops are equal then the lines are paralel
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: else they are intersecting
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: they're segments, not full lines
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: if they are segments then the position of both lines counts
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: right, but "parallel" for the sake of testing for intersection can consider them both to be full lines
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: if you consider them full lines then slop works perfect :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: sort of simple way is: calculate point of intersection, test that that point is on the stationary segment, then computer what time the moving segment gets to that point
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: otherwise they intersect if only y1 = y2 or x1 = x2 (end of segments coincide)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't understand anything i watched dr house in my math class instead of learning :(
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher laffs.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: pretend they are full lines.. they will intersect unless they are parallel
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i wrote dotproduct function now
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: What do you need the dot product for?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i don't know, mye said something about it
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: was saying the cross product to test for parallel
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Well, you need the cross product
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so, if they're parallel, moving either in the direction of their slope will never lead to an intersection (i.e. you can quit out of the test/function)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: not really...if they are segments is a bit harder
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: they can have diff sloaps and still not intersecting and not beeing paralel to
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: re-read what i said.. if they're parallel
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i'm taking care of the case where the lines on which the segments reside are parallel -- these segments can never intersect
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: ok i wrote crossproduct function too
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: so assuming the lines aren't parallel, then they must intersect once.. you can figure out that point of intersection
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: in order for the segments to intersect, you have two conditions that must be met -> the point of intersection must be on the stationary segment and it must be in "front" of the moving segment
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: ok...my solution its like that
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: you need to find out the equation of thoose segments
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: then you need to find out the intersection point
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: P(x,y) if x not between x1 and x2 and y not between y1 and y2 then they are paralel
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye peers intently at Darkwing Duckbat.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: me and mosi making sense? :)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: for example segment1 have a1x+b1y+c1=0 equation and segment2 have a2x+b2y+c2=0 ...you can eassy find out P(x,y)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: wait i will draw a picture
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: http://duckbat.com/linestuff.png
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: to find out if they're parallel, just look at both vectors and check if they have the same ratio.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: is the stuff we were talking about making sense though? it's a matter of calculating when it intersects and adjusting (or testing if it did intersect and then adjusting)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: oh.. it's not moving in the direction of its slope?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: no it can move in any direction
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: okay.. are we talking just line segments or something more difficult?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if they aren't parallel, if your lines are AB and CD, solve for the equation AC+cCD=dAB, where AB, CD, AB are vectors
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if c and d are between 0 and 1, they intersect. Otherwise not.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: and what if line moves through other line and they aren't intersecting, but they did during the movement?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: i mean segment
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... you can test whether the moving line crosses from one side to the other by a similar method. Just draw a picture, look at the vectors, and get the constants stright.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if it passes through, one of the 4 points must cross past the other line
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Anyone can recommend best place for free web hosting?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: godaddy seems pretty cheap and the dns propagation was fairly quick the other day
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: their website for managing stuff is horrid though
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it had ad cancer
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: has ad cancer
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: your isp probably offers some sort of hosting also.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, about a year ago I had some nice free hosting with t35 and it was ad-free
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: seems to be gone now, adverts do annoy me
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: your actual site at godaddy is ad free but their website to manage things is horrid
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Oh I see, any idea how much space you get?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: just a sec
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: 1and1 is pretty good
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: looks like we have 150gb. you would have to check though what comes with the $10 .com site though
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: cool, thanks guys
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no thank you. now i can see if we are being charged extra for the 150gb since we are only using 14mb
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: savings savings savings
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yeah, I'm not gonna pay for anything anyway, I have a buddy who's gonna give me some space on his server, I just want some free space elsewhere
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: If my desktop is randomly powering down, espewcially when I play Deus Ex, the issue is probably overheatting?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: it's not that black and white
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: dunno, is your computer hot?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: could be a lack of power, vid card might need re-seating...
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is there any strange sounds coming from it?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that might be a fan bearing going out
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah vid card fans tend to be cheap
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Motherboard temp is 35C, cpu 85C, GPU 66C (according to everest ultimate)
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cpu is hot...
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mine runs at 33
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: no strange sounds and the exhaust doesnt feel hot at all
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what cpu you runnin?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya mine is like 28C
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: core 2 quad - q6600 
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that shouldn't get much higher than 40
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: is your heatsink clear of dust bunnies?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: check you're you cpu fan and make sure it's on properly
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 85 is way too hot, did you just install it recently?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: might need new thermal paste
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if its an intel motherboard make sure you push the pins from the fan down all the way
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods and don't turn the black things
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: okay I will try all these things :) thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's for removing
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you should hear a clicking/popping noise when they go in all the way
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: maybe I shouldnt run boinc in the background?
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: no program is going to make your cpu run that hot. its a heatsink/fan issue
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: well the good news is that I cleared whole bunch of dust from my PC...the bad news is I mustve dislodged my video card or something
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if so, just reseat it.  If that's not the problem, you must've did something way worse like cracked a board or something.
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: doesnt feel loose at all...computer itself is running fine (i.e. its powered on with fans, etc.)  just dont see any video output
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: all it takes is one bad connection on one of the connector pins
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: pull it out and stick it back in, you'd be surprised how often that works
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riversong Tech: that what she... oh, wait
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: so reseated everything and still not working...:-(
T3/r7/2012-10-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: How do people like to buy desktops? Ebay? Craigslist? Tigerdirect/NewEgg ? Straight from Vendor?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: so windows darklight isnt a lisenced windows?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Broker Tech: Hey guys, on the toggleable map on mushclient, what are those weird triangle things that point NSEW from the room?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how come my avast cant repair? every time i wana repair then it says error
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there an easy way to track your direction in mush?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: Anyone knows of any plugins for Muschlient?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hamnaren Halth Tech: Looking for one that keep tracks of per level/Pup
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Bast has a collection of plugins, one of which does that.. finger bast
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: so... turning off prompts saves a lot of bandwidth... what about autotick... is it very bandwidth intensive?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: whos bandwidth you worried about, aardwolf, or your account?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: aard
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: autotick uses squat for bandwidth
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: kk =) i like having it, i like prompt too, but if turning it off helps, i'll turn it off. glad to hear autotick doesn't use much
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turning off prompts won't realy help aard
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: oh? help prompt made it sound like it would
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: shortening a long prompt will help some maybe, but the biggest help is just using MCCP
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: oh cool good to know
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the top of help newprompt is a lot older than it makes out to be, and is from when aard was on a single T1 (or maybe even before that)
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: id bet that gmcp gives prompts a good run for the bandwidth money currently (and royally blows it away during OC/inferno runs)
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: but GMCP only sends altered data, and ignores data that hasn't yet changed, so there's *so much* savings! :P
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: GMCP only *automatically* sends altered data - plugins can and do request the whole caboodle
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nno, it sends entire classes of data
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn on debug, join a group of 15 people and watch the screen without touching the keyboard ;-)
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The bandwidth issues explode when you consider 15 * packet per combat round.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So...I was doing some AV setup today, dealing with a hub sending composite AV signal and AC power to 30 or so TVs
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The hubs cost a good $1k, and they get used in parallel piggybacking off each other on a big rail
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I go in to look at the first link in the chain...main power socket has been broken. Rather than make use of the free servicing, the genius local people have simply rested the live metal components on top of each other.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: inhouse IT- beautiful ppl  trying to bamboozel eachother with a fixit sol'n
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Um. This isn't IT. This is basic 'how big a fire hazard can I create given x:xx time and unlimited stupidity'
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: I use IT as losely as I use english .. 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A cute Yulian Tech: I weep for the English Language then
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: a girl i know was talking about her Theater stuff the other day. I guess they have lightbulbs that run so hot that if you touch them while they're off the residual fingerprints oils will make them explode once they heat up as they're used
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: that was really cool to me
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: halogen bulbs will do that
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: fluorescent tubes will do that - this is why they are housed in those bigger plastic casings - it isn't about the heat, it is that the oils act as insulation, keeping more heat in glass, causing boom
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so I said it isn't about the heat, then explained how it was all about the heat. idk, sue me :-P
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: got a few salutes from that flagpole mate , grats 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: n yeah the En lang is ded :P
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: soz I'm sober 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: well relatively so .. 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: still love the IT dept that is the most computer literate person in the room soln to probs .. Go OZ !
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you touch a stalactite or stalagmite it'll stop growing and turn brown/black
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if the topic is still touching stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: isn't oz the one that put the fire extinguisher that was on fire next to the rest of the fire and then hoped that it'd all just go away?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: sounds like Oz=Australian fiscal policy .. 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: random question, but why is the us postal service usps.com instead of usps.gov?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Private owned?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: isn't the postal service part of the government, though?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: contracted out ? 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lokathor Tech: or, founded before people started splitting off .gov and .com as throughly
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: equally plausible 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: it sells stuff so I imagine it would want to be found easy everyone knows .com
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: >>Patrick R. Donahoe, Postmaster General/Chief Executive Officer 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: CEO suggest gov owned, but not gov dept
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Boom!
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: can you buy stock in the post office?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: how would i go about filtering lbid for ore on market ? there is no "raw materal" type in help eq-types
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: can anyone suggest a language/platform that i can use to rough out some ideas and be able to draw crude geometric shapes to screen (with motion possibly) without having to write my own rendering engine ?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: what languages do you know?  you can download visual c# for free.. it encapsulates a lot of that (graphics object iirc), but really most of the modern "visual" IDEs will do the same (i learned in borland c++builder, and it the Canvas object was the corollary).  if you want to get more complicated (i.e. 3d), you'll probably need to look into external libraries (OpenGL etc), but you can do simple stuff with a timer and paintbox
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: My first thought was flash
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: but haven't played with that in a long while.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i usually choose language based on upon the purpose.. never did anything in flash though
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i can code c/c++, java,vb ... i used to have borland c++ 5.02 with the graphics.lib that made 2d drawing to screen easy
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: what i want to be able to do is define multiple class types, define relationships btwn the classes through code, create objects from those classes (which indicates position) render the objects relative to each other .... simulate time progression using motion and color shifting
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: i could do the class definitions and coding in vc++ but making that renderable is a royal pain in the arse
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: because that involves opening the whole direct3d implimentation just to draw simple shapes
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: you can use opengl for the rendering .. sort of overkill, but encapsulates most of it
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if a windows form is okay, you could create a simple form, slap a paintbox on it, and use that.. still has the overhead of being a form and all that, but simpler interface
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: grrr ... for me this is one of the most frustrating aspects of trying to code out an idea 
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: how hard would it be to setup dual surface flipping for that ?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: oh.. that would depend on the IDE
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: or would i be just drawing straight to the object ?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if you need double buffering, would stick with opengl or direct3d or other engine
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: i have seen a setting in visual c# that implies double buffering but haven't used it myself -- when i've embedded in c++ i used the engine to do that
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Imalish Tech: only reason i would want double buffering is so that i can have motion without tearing the screen when i update data :/ ... programming used to be so much easier back in the day when you could draw straigh to the graphic screen buffer
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: nods.. i failed the times i tried to do double buffering manually -- would always see parts of the redraw -- but been a while (years) since i've considered other possibilities there
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: exFat is compatible on mac and windows OS's if I'm not mistaken?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I've thought exFat is some kind of standard of file system
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: It is.. But I'm formatting an external drive that i'm putting a client's data on to. And I just wanted to make sure newer Mac OS's and Windows PC's could both read the format.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kashnar Tech: It is compatible with both
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: Thank you Kashnar
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kashnar Tech: exfat is available on XP with a patch, everything after should be ok
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pthyro Tech: Nod, client uses OSx10.6 and W7 so should be fine.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nerokaze Tech: how can i remove this {affoff} that appears nest to my spellups
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: check out the tags
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: help tags and stuff
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: help stuff is something else..
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: well just check out help pink pony then
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: im well versed in that one.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: I'm just glad they Valet.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: is there a way in cmud to prevent the settings window from being pulled behind the main window when the main window refreshes (i.e. - character moves/etc)
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanali Celanil Tech: right click -> stay on top
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: well thats fancy... haha thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone do powershell scripting?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: regex match for "text1|text2|text3" works
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: regex match for "text1|text$2|text3" doesnt work exactly - any idea on how to fix that
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it will result text$88 if it exists
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ive tried \$ and `$
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: so everytime i try to run somewhere it says error #2002 any suggestions?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: ello?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[**NOPK**] Vegan Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: try runto instead?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: hm. i'll try it and let ya know what happens...
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: also you may want to include relevant information about your problem. what client you are using for instance
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: nope i still just keep getting the error 2002 message
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: relevant information? why? that's just waste of time :P "Error #2002 - The server is not responding (or local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)"
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tell siriuswolfe seriously, you need to tell what client, what system, and what command :)
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: im using fmud and it says error 2002 anytime i type run/runto
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: same with rt+
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: rt command
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: time to get better client perhaps?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: flash is not best there is anymore
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: well what do you suggest i use? i tried java a while back and that didnt work but i can try it again..
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you need to use it in webbrowser in closed network or something?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: The mushclient build available through Aardwolf.com is great
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if totally necessary, you could try to create alias that does not interfere with client like ppppp for runto (alias ppppp rt) that way you can get around the client side problems with runto
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: thanks guys. i'll write back when i figure this out...
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: well i figured it out, i think.. but im having to use java....
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siriuswolfe Tech: meh...
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itsybitsy Tech: I have made some accidental change to my screen, I typed sort urn, because I hoped it would sort the things inside by level, instead of that I got a message saying a full appraisal will reveal further information on this item and then a load of invdata. After that I have lost all spacing between events, so that if I got to a room there is no space between the rooms, who is in the room and my prompt - I am nearly computer illiterate, can anyone tell me what I have done and how to undo it please?
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Huh.  Sounds like your container sort plugin seriously bugged out.  
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try typing 'compact'
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: See if it puts the blank lines back in.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Failing that, disable whatever container sort plugin you are using.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Have you tried turning it on and off again.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: ?*
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Reinstall Windows.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itsybitsy Tech: ok, compact does nothing, have logged out and back in, but that did not work, will try and disable plug in
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you able to boot into a DOS prompt?  Do that then type "win"
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Completely restart mushclient, not just logging in and out.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itsybitsy Tech: thank you,disabled the plug and it is fine now
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim cheers and sings... he is just BURSTING with joy!
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Itsybitsy Tech: thanks a lot, hope I won't have to ask you often, don't know enough about computers for these things :P
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: I have an issue with tags.  I have read help tag.  don't see the selection I need.  It says stats...... everytime I hit enter.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: that is statmon
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah probs, just type "statmon" to toggle it.
T3/r7/2012-10-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dassadec Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dark Ryder Lupercus Tech: Anyone else experience graphical issues with MushClient?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: i know i do but there all bast related
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: i just reload
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: is there any way to remove pages from a pdf document (and save as a new pdf) w/out buying full adobe software or downloading other programs to do it?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: in CMUD can you nest %if within each other?  %if(cond,%if(cond,true,false),false)
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Starling Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: or would the syntax look different?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Yep.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: ok tnx
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That being said, you might look in to other ways of doing it. it'd be good to familiarize yourself with switch statements
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: normally i would use switch but it's a bit awkward for switch.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: fair enough
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're familiar with switch statements, you probably know best
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: basically if have an if statement and in each true/false it needs to check another if condition... guess i could reorganize it into multi OR AND switch options...
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: Cmud : is there a way on a Button to have it do different things based on left/right click? I know I can set each button individually to respond to a specific one, but not sure if i could do 2 diff commands on one button.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittieCorpse Tech: Does anybody perhaps have a link for a script that calculates when all three moons will be out and that shows it in a different window?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: http://code.google.com/p/bastmush
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittieCorpse Tech: Thanks Vorpes
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittieCorpse Tech: Ive downloaded the bast addons and ive added the moonbot addon but no window has appeared
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittieCorpse Tech: "Reinstalled plugin miniwin_moonbot (eee9913955ee86427355ad5e)"
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittieCorpse Tech: am i missing something? perhaps another plugin that must also be enabled? Any help would be appreciated 
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittieCorpse Tech: Nvm it seems i had to wait for a few moon ticks before it activated
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: huzzah
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}KittieCorpse Tech: Sieg Heil o/
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a statreporting script for mush
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: preferably one that shows how far from max stats you are as well
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: finger bast.  he has a nice one
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it doesn't do maxstats though, I think Mendaloth has a plugin for that
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: well, you would know  :P
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: which bast script is it, i use the bundle
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Well hi bast!
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: statdb is the script
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it keeps up with levels, cps, quests, gqs, kills
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daikojun Tech: mendaloth's script confirms my epic newbness  lol
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: ok, let's say I buy Star Wars from disney, and decide to make a movie about C3PO, called brokedroid mountain...how humanlike can I make the droid dong without making it NC-17?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: you should watch "Zack and Miri make a porno"
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Velian Tech: you could not attempt to get people interested in this on this channel. thanks
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dr manhattan's dong was pretty out in the open in watchmen
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: there is a series of spoof movies...
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: SQL = "SELECT realtor_id, login, password FROM [Realtors]" set rs = Conn.Execute(SQL) Do While Not RS.EOF If Request("Password") = "star" Then Session("Logged") = "ON" Response.Redirect "realtor_home.asp" End If RS.MoveNext Loop
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Love that code. :D
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: hmm.. why storing actual passwords in the database?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's just from the Daily WTF. :p
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: Question about zmud databases: Is there a command which returns only one specific field of an entry? I.e. something like #query, but which only returns one of the fields instead of the whole entry?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yes, there is
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I'd have to look it up to be sure of what it is tho
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all queries return record references (ie, 23eq), not the actual record data itself.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: Is there an easy way of separating them out?
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Lemme find it
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: And Styx, if you could help me find that command, I'd really appreciate that.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: @recordnum.field
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: Doh! That's it? XD
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: %db(rec, key)
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that's it, if you can use that syntax in whatever you are doing.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Returns the value of the key property of the given record variable. A shortcut for this function is ec.key which also returns the key value in the record variable rec.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Returns the value of the key property of the given record variable. A shortcut for this function is @rec.key which also returns the key value in the record variable rec.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: That's perfect - thanks you two!
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: It was amazing, I opened up help and typed db into search
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't remember if %db() actually works directly on the database, though.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: It does. Hans.
T3/r7/2012-10-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: not sure what i did im running mush with bast, my main window (combat, prompt...) just reduced to half size I can horizontally adjust it but no vertical ability can any one help please