T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Anyone else getting mapper errors when they speedwalk through a room that has had its name changed?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click, delete that room, then go into it again
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll automatically handle areas which have been renamed/replaced, but individual rooms (I'm guessing you're in that atop the mountain one) aren't automatically handled
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: The problem started when I upgraded from 1126 to 1716, the 'delete room' is new to this one I think, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I was manually renaming the room in the database
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that'd work, but is a bit more hands-on
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: that way I don't lose extra columns
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i don't wanna upgrade till i have to :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never have to...just miss out on all fixes, improvements, new features
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well have to = some new feature i'm missing out on :)
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I did it for "mapper walk"
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: how do i make mushclient beep when i get a message from someone?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it takes you to a room without using any portals, handy for escaping no-portal no-recall areas like storm ships
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: or rather, just how do i make mushclient beep?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a trigger with a sound component
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: turn on chan tags, create a trigger to match them, add a sound to the trigger
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: chan tags will already be on from the channel capture window
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh i thought that's what all that noportal flag junk was about :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: oh, what about if you get a message
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: like if you get a notification that quest reset has taken place
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, tbh scurvy, it's better to try mapper goto 32418 from in lemdagor and let it see that each of the rooms is norecall/noportal
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: they only need to be flagged once :)
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ok, I didn't know aardmapper had room flagging now
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same answer, akrios, make a trigger for the event, and attach a sound
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's had it for a hella long time
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: Then you end up in evil Sh area and then give up and create a leavelem walk to alias :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or make cexits
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I last updated about a year ago
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so mapper does it automatically
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if mapper gets stuck somewhere you just need to teach it how to leave/enter...
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: though sometimes "recall" is easier :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that would be a nice featuer
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if mapper used recall
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper does use recall
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you can set recall as a portal
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that easy huh? awesome :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: same way as you'd set any portal
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: go to recall and type 'mapper portal recall'. Catch is, whenever it uses that portal, your moves halves
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i was afraid of that
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you could get a garbage can as your 'recall' portal, then maybe figure a way of it using the actual 'recall' when the garbage can triggers 'magic walls bounce you back'
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i was hoping it would only use it for rooms flagged noportal but not norecall...
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe in a few more updates :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it will use recall in rooms that are flagged prison but not norecall
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll try both in a room
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't want it trying to recall before portalling or even running to a nearby room to portal... guess i'll just leave it
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: how do i attach a sound? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what client
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: akrios: in the trigger definition, there's a whole section about choosing a sound
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: there's no sounds in the sounds folder :(
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: santher: it'll use a portal if it can, it'll use recall if it cannot...then if neither work, that room will be flagged both norecall and prison and neither will be tried in that room ever again...it'll then move 1 room, try the portal,try to recall, flag the room, lather rinse repeat until it knows exactly how to get from point A to point B the most efficiently
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and once the room is flagged noportal you don't get the bounce back message to recall off of
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then choose another folder with sound
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it flags prison separately from norecall
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akrios Tech: know which folder contains windows default sounds?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so it does try portalling first?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can set a bouncerecall to use word of recall
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: now you have me interested as well.  Mine does not try recall if portal fails... is something not turned on?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: once the rooms get flagged noportal mapper will jsut spit out on error, not keep bouncing you
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it tries shortest path first...so which is tried first would depend on the starting point and destination...if you try mapper goto <recall>, then if you don't have a garbage can set, the shortest path is to recall
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you haven't set the bouncerecall stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher buries her face in her hand and sighs, shaking her head.
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: true I have not.  What would the most common bouncerecall be set to?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it needs to know what you want it to do
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can make a "portal" to use "home" and one to use "recall" (and a level-locked one to use word of recall), and set each of those to "portalrecall"...
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah starting to sound like a lot of work for something that'll screw up as much as help
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then set whichever one you want to be tried as recall to be your bouncerecall room...then when it thinks fastest way to, say, knossos is to use the knossos portal and it notices that you're in a room that is prison/noportal, it'll try to bounce through your recall first
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it won't screw up anything
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm lost...
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lol me too
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: newbie channel is that way ---> 
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make a portal to recall that just types "recall"...set that portal to "portalrecall"...set that portal to "bouncerecall"...set any of your portals that lands in a recallable room to be "bounceportal"
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: omg bounceportal?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, this is all explained on the website
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: which would be?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whaddya mean which would be?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what website?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's only one website for all things aardmush
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh that unfriendly site, never had much luck with it
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah don't see much beyond a faq and a download link
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you got a page?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: at the start of this convo, I went into rather large detail on the exact sequence of clicks to get to the page...
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you have a wiki tab?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: half way down
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oops, it was actually on the q/a thread that sparked much of this thread...ans -h featured
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuag Tech: how does one launch a game via DosBox?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuag Tech: any tech guys on?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Depends on what you need. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: As a rule of thumb, don't ask to ask, just ask. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuag Tech: i asked something earlier but noone answered, how does one launch a game via DosBox?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Have you seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAWiUAGCphQ?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shuag Tech: thanx
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: np. Google does wonders btw.
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spher Tech: aardwolf's client work on linux?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: works good under wine
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Using Wine...finger fiendish to find out more..
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spher Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Spher Tech: ta
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's the command to get mushclient to reset?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite thanks Ayasinda heartily.
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: anybody know how to disable the energy saver for windows 7
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Manipulative Tech: Control Panel, Power
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: not there
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: anybody else know?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what you mean by 'not there'?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it doesn't show up under control panel
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Manipulative Tech: Click 'classic view', maybe?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: On a laptop or desktop?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If on a laptop, right-click the battery icon and choose Power settings.
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: on a laptop
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Easiest way to get there.
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: anybody have a script for lasertag built in to group? i want one to make a sound like ring doorbell, so i know when laser is on
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no script necessary, just a single trigger
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: How would i go about doing that? two tp involved :)
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on your client
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i have mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for MUSH, game -> configure -> triggers, click add
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type the text that tells you a game was announced in the top, then go to the play sound section and choose a sound
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: 2s of recall
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: want your 2 tps?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: albenic?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, nah, I didn't actually do anything :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: thanks anyways :)
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: easy advice is always free
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Can anyone recommend a good replacement battery for a Macbook 13-inch white that's cheaper than the $120 battery from Apple?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: finding lots of options and mixed reviews on each
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: whats the battery model number
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: Not sure. My wife has her comp w/ her at the moment, can't look
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: well look it up :P
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: believe it's A1185
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: http://www.pricegrabber.com/a1185/products.html/form_keyword=A1185
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: the trustworthy sites are all here
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tasty Tipro Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: no problem if u want legit always search pricegrabber i worked with a vendor and dealt with them, very strict standards and no bs policy
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: i tried install a plugin, didn't work.  now i see all my affects as they fall off.  {affoff}##
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: how do i remove that echo?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags spellups off
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: type TAGS SPELLS OFF
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: ty :)
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: how do i remove the chat from showing in main window, and back to chatlog only?
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: right-click comm log, explore the options.
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: i'm using MUSHClient btw, sry.
T3/r7/2012-12-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Applecorn Tech: ah, found.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there a way to access just one databse part of my database backups?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: say that again?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: for instance if i wanted to clear my tracked stats but don't want to clear my mapper
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: deleting my database would delete both correct?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper database has nothing to do with tracked stats
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: when i look at my database directory in mush i only see one thing though
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check other directories
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper database is not in a directory
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: or a bunch of things but all backups of the same thing or older versions of the same thing
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: ahh ok
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just called Aardwolf.db
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (or <worldname>.db if you changed the world name)
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it sits in the main mushclient directory
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the "db_backups" directory has backups of the mapper db
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they have names like Aardwolf.db.Backup_Automatic
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: ahh hmm so does aardwolf.db contain my stats backup
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: _probably_ no
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper database does not have anything about stats in it
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need to examine source code to obtain location of stats database
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still it is possibly that someone has used aardwolf.db to store stats there
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ...
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only if they're stupid
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: so what fiendish is saying, is its probably pretty likely
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Scurvy peers around himself intently.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: seems the newest mushclient (as least) doesn't allow pipe characters | inside hyperlink functions. What would you use to split apart variables in a trigger when each might have spaces?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: not trigger.. alias
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: underscore it is then
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: pipe inside hyperlink?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the vertical line character | cuts off whatever is after it when you use it in the 'action' part of the hyperlink() function
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Hyperlink("myfunction item one|item two", etc) creates a link just to "myfunction item one"
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: i have aliases in mushclient to change my eq at various levels - these are "eqchangexx" where xx is the level, now im trying to make a trigger to execute these aliases upon levelling up
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: anyone know how to put a variable into an Execute? ive tried Execute ("lvl" .. %1) and it doesnt seem to work
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: oops i mean "eqchange" .. %1
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Execute("lvl %1")
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: ahh thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: with variables that you create, go with what you did, but with variables coming in from the alias name just put them inside
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Eventually you will progress beyond separate aliases for each set of equipment
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: I'm having an issue sometimes when I'm using the MUSH client... It wont bring up anything on my main screen, but I still get global channels outputing to my communication log.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you install any extra plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's a plugin you're running that's trying to capture stuff and gag it from the screen...the plugin isn't noticing the "end of message" indicator
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure your prompt ends in %c by typing "p data"
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: It looks good.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: I do notice it happens when the plugin scans all the areas in the game. Is there a way to fix it other than having to reinstall the client?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define "the plugin"
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: Search and Destroy triple pack.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry, I don't support that
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: jameson's bot 3.0
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you don't need to reinstall the client, just disable the plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: What is the command to purge portals from your db?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: mapper help :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: THanks
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Hey Fiendish, just wanted to say that I'm very impressed at the improvements to aardclient over the last year, really well done
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that's big praise from the guy that has been fighting the very idea of upgrading ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (at least I think you're the one who was always "I've changed the plugins so much myself" whenever we said to upgrade)
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: yeah that was me
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I respect people who can make their own changes (as long as the changes work, of course). I just don't like when it stops them from taking the latest updates.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: I decided that tiering was a good milestone to scrap it all and start again with the newer version. I ported over the changes I actually used, like showing the area's level range in the room finding dialog
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose the best way to do that is to just svn checkout the repository and then merge updates incrementally. Or submit useful changes to me for future inclusion.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does the mapper expose any "hooks" for other plugins to attach to?  You wouldn't necessarily need to include new stuff personally, and those building the extensions wouldn't have to modify the stuff you're coding.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: One of my favourite updates is it waking you up to move, I appreciate that.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tons hanslanda
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: is there a aardwolf app?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: for blackberry?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not that I know of
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think people use like bbssh or something
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: with the Aard Mushclient, is it possible to add Macros that aren't already in the Macro List?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: accelerators
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish has a nice FAQ entry on that on his site
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: Okies. Thanks Abe
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that one :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mostly Moofie Tech: Thanks!
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: is there a way to get an mccp bonus while on a mobile device like an ipad or iphone?
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's up to the client, so I doubt it.
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: type MCCP, if it says MCCP is on, then you get the bonus
T3/r7/2012-12-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if not, check out HELP MCCP PROXY.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cyne Tech: does anyone know what does the completed data in GMCP comm.quest refer to?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: Anyone who has a few spare minutes to help me set up my new router to accept a connection from my Xbox 360? Google is being kinda unhelpful at the moment, giving me vague answers, some of which I've tried to no avail.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: (The rest I can't make heads and tails of)
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is there a way to manually add portals to the cmud mapper without going through edit>portals?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: one sec
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: http://www.holgerschurig.de/games/aardmapper.html
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: that mush not cmud :P
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the idea is the same I'm guessing. :p isn't it still fiendish's mapper
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud im trying to count the steps between two rooms using this code #forall reakeywordlist {#show %i = %pathfrom(31826,%db(reanum_DB,%i))---About %len(%replace(%pathexpand(%pathfrom(31826,%db(reanum_DB,%i))),"|","")) steps} ... but it counts portals as multiple steps .(enter rift) for example, it counts it as 13 additional steps, anyway to get past that?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: %numitems(%pathexpand(path))
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thanks *facepalm
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: on mush, how to I flip the command bar back again so I'm typing left to right insted of right to left?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: actually, my friend said it was a windows thing, not a mush thing
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asgan Tech: save state "y" doesnt work for aard mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asgan Tech: my plugin variables wont save between sessions... =/
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asgan Tech: and it still work in any other version of mush... but aard one...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: how do i import a script into cmud?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: is it an xml or a package?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: was told to just import xml
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: settings>file>import xml
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CMFP Limunious Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Anyone feel like helping me brainstorm some good features for a webbased invoicing app?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: asgan: seeing as how every other plugin manages to save state, obviously it does work. make sure you have the mushclient folder in a place it can safely write to
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asgan Tech: what would be a place it can safely write to?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asgan Tech: i mean, i'm not the only one who realized that, i sent this plugin to a few friends and all of them got the same issue...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asgan Tech: and when using the normal mush version, it doesnt happen...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Asgan Tech: the aard mush even realized the variable was changed, it asks if you wanna save it, you choose yes, and it doesnt save... weird...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mind sending me the plugin to test?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hey fiend is there a way to search the mapper for level locks?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: to search for level locks you added you mean?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i added one but can't remember where
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and it makes my sw's longer
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well it should show in red on the map
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so it should be kind of visibly obvious where it is, assuming you can see
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's one of the public halls
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but no, there's no listing function for that
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mapper walk with delay?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: delay where
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: up front or in the middle?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and run a bunch of sw's till i see it?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: delay in movement speed?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it sends run, so no
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher sighs.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's technically capable of sending individual walks, but I'm actually slowly removing that
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because I think it adds nothing and promotes botlike behavior
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing. ignore me.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: yep it is working
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no more mapper goto?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll always have goto
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: k
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do it without running
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like...uhh...hold on
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Omg snickers with The Jerk Fiendish about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: -> \\\require "wait";wait.make (function () for i=1,32000,100 do Execute("mapper showroom "..i);Repaint();wait.time(0.01) end end)
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or something like that
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that skips by 100 and doesn't wait very long. a real search would take much longer
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's gonna iterate showroom on all rooms?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no, on every 100th room
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's gonna only show every 100th room, or only pause every 100th?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess it doesn't need to go up to 32000
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for i=1,32000,100 means count from 1 to 32000 in steps of 100
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1, 101, 201, 301, 401
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if first, then I dunno the usefulness...if the room you're looking for isn't /100, then how's it help?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it only needs to be nearby
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't need to see every room, just every area
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm interesting
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can skip entire areas like that though...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well yes
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's just an example
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "a real search would take much longer"
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so mapper showroom 123 shows any room that has an exit level lock in the area?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper showroom 123 shows as if you were in room 123
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so with the proper zoom setting it shows all rooms and exits at the same Z
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: within the area
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahhhh, I'm following now!
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there a way to delete them all at once?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was thinking more of a main output info thing, wasn't remembering that it's a "mapper draw" thing
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: purge all level locks? hmmm
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: these are all good ideas to add after the new stable release
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: should have suggested them a month ago
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: (without deleting my mapper file) :P
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if comfortable with sql, I'm sure it's pretty trivial to do...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: santher: know how to use a sqlite editor?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: never tried...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well you can send me your db and i'll send you a list of locked exits
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: keep in mind that your db may be larger than will fit on an email attachment, so you might need to use some kind of file sharing service
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nah... it's ok... i can wait :)
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wait for what?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or not...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm guessing for a later version after you add the functionality
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah but who knows when that will be. I could die tomorrow
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: things not to say with martin's pretitle
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: man, right in the feels
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, quick...make a succession plan for the code repo
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: cute
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, lasher already has admin privileges
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now whatever you do, do *NOT* get on a plane with Lasher!
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah email won't work...
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's 13.8 MB
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc sings about the day the mudcode died
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: use gmail. I emailed mine thats 19 megs to myself for safe keeping last week
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah ok
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher uses gmail
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the day aardwolf's music died?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can send messages up to 25 mb with gmail
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should be able to squeeze a bit out by zipping it
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard's music dying would be dreamfyre and garl on a plane together, I think :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: aards radio still works
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I haven't heard an episode of JloR in ages
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could add in rezit, but he's just dj
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gonna take awhile to upload :P
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: what you uploading?
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: my mapper file to fiend
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: heh, try a ftp site, shouldn't take that long there
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so he can search it for my level locks... got one i can't remember where
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: next time i'll add a note
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then i can find them easy
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: makes sense
T3/r7/2012-12-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: notes work good for marking rooms :P
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: anyone out there using mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just ask the q :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not a single person.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A bright, shiny gold halo appears over Book of Etzli's head.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: lolz etzli
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: well i am attempting to learn alises
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: and i cant seem to get it
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you checked out Fiendish's site (he's the one that makes the aard mushclient package)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: i finally found enable stacking with the "
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his site's wiki page has some good info
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: crap.. the 
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stacking enabled with ; is on by default
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: ERMAGHERD
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: right ok
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: so if i type in get relief bag semi-colon quaf relief
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: it does that
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: but when i create an alias to do the same thing, it doesnt work
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're making an alias, I'd really suggest hitting "enter" to make it do 2 things
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: so have the next command on a seperate line?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: Quaf? Like when a female...or am I lost?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, that's why the send part is sooo huge
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in order for it to "listen" to the ;,you'd have to have the alias "send to execute"
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: so simply put the commands on seperate lines, without the semi-colon proceeding each line?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the "normal" way to use the GUI to make an alias
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: word, let me give it a go here
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: 1.21 GIGAWATTS!
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: ty, it worked
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: i might cry tears of joy
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: do you know how aggravating this crap can get when you're stoned? lol
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: YES
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: im glad im not the only 1
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: NO
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: Way to well my friend.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if getting stoned makes things aggravate you, you're doin' it wrong
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: emote is so stoned he can't complete his goal in the lab.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: try the :
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: Failed that last input also -_-
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: s'posed to mellow yourself, not get aggravated
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: thats emote
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Medieval Jameson is so sober
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: True.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: well when you're trying to make things easier for yourself, yet completing the task is hard... it tends to aggravate 
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: Non-smokers can't relate.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: but you feel oh so satisfied when you figure it out.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luzion Tech: Indeed.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: found it! I had level locked gaardian's exits 
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, did you find it on your own, or did it ever get to Fiendish?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: with help from fiend :)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: what's the command to check for updates for the aard mush client? 
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll check automatically when you open it, unless you've turned off the feature
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: now to figure how to delete them...
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click it
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper lockexit
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hmm neither seem to work
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: deleting what?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: delete room didn't even work
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i want to delete a lock locked exit
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you delete the room itself, you'd have to let it re-add the room again
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: if you are in room, mapper lockexit should bring up exits dialogue where you choose one with exit lvl lock. 
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: but what abe said, would be faster
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah mapper lockexit did nothing for me
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: try mapper help
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'll try deleting the exits
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll probably want to be down from where you are
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: at recall?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it should still pop up the exits dialog box
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Yesterday's News is the gaardian room with area exits
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah weird that other vnum came up...
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, the lock may be earlier rather than the exit room itself
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: definitely go with whatever one was in red or the one fiendish said
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you right-click on the room, what options do you have?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should have a menu option of "change exit level lock"
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah...
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: all the exits come up as 0
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you select that, it should pop up a new window
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah showing the exits...
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the exits listed...e --> UIDOfNextRoom
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: double-click one of the exits
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "0"
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: right
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's all there is to removing the lock...you can verify by doing the same thing, and noticing that when you double-click the exit, it has "0" highlighted already
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i'm gonna try and purge the entire public hall
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can just purge the two rooms :P
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and with no way to search... i'm back to where i started :(
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i guess i just hope it got deleted
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, when you delete the room, you should see the room disappear from the map
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same for the exit lines
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and exits get re-added automatically?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when the mapper sees them, yes
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: as in you're in the room (don't have to use said exit)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do need to use the exit for the mapper to add it two-ways
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll initially add it as a stub
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and once you let it re-add the room, you can verify that the lock itself is gone by going to the change exit level lock dialog and opening that exit to see the "0"
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: whats bandwith allocation?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: every once in a while at loadup aardmush doesn't echo to the main window. I get says tells bar tech etc to the communication log. Is there a command to try to try making it showup in the main window.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: with the mushclient mapper and portals, when it asks for the level of the portal, does it take into consideration your tier?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: awesome, so you should just put in the actual item level then?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes, the level of the portal
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: that's what it asks for :P
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: new nvidia driverssss!
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AlexRey Tech: Hey guys. I'm currently using MUSHclient which has some really nice features like real-time stats and moving maps, but is there a way to have inventory and equipment windows as well?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think Bast has a plugin for that
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: cool , can you download it?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AlexRey Tech: Hmmm bast. I found this online http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}AlexRey Tech: Will check it out further
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: where can you download plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: help www
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: usually from the players that made them
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: what was the command for not updating mapper untill you reach the room?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: you mean when you run?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: maprun
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: not that :P
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: i am speaking about gmcp mapper
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Michels Tech: lol oh. I don't know that you'll have to get someone else to answer
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i add a wait timer for cexit. so when speedwalking it gives time for the mob programing to get me to next room.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's in the help file of the plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Are you using MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mush client
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Though it's in the helpfile, it doesn't really state it flat out.  In the middle of your speedwalk, you'll wait to do "wait(x)", where X is the time.  Minus the quotations, of course.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh i think i see this now, the mapper cexit_wait
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm, mapper cexit_wait makes it wait when making the cexit, but doesnt wait that long when running the cexit...
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: dude
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mapper cexit <command>  
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in mapper help
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: yes, i see this..
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: see the help for the syntax too
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: to the right
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: did it make sense
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: Thank you for helping.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: np
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i missed what Lulz said about the "wait(x)"
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: happens to the best
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: even if you're manly and adorable at the same time as I am
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Is there a way to reset the chat echo in MUSHclient if it fails for whatever reason?  Like, through a command?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: (Say, if my chatwindow stops catching channels)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: chat echo on returns it to the previous state, if that works.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: hey. if you get a mini window in mush to big for your monitor, how do you shrink it back?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: like if you go from a 24 inch screen to a small lap top.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: resetaard do the trick?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: urm. is there a restore back from that ?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zuellier Tech: that did work. thanks. 
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I don't think so - I think I've heard talk of saving layouts as a planned feature, but I might be just making that up...
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: there's no way to undo a resetaard.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Could make the suggestion: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: is it a common problem, after having a hard drive cloned, to not be able to use several programs?
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: I would think the cloning process would be transparent.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: well I had sme issues with my computer, took it to a reputable computer place, and they cloned my hd, but now I can't access the internet through any browser besides microsoft exploiter, I keep getting an errror saying that they aren't configured for my firewall, but I've setup the exceptions for them and still have no luck
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: Hmmm, not sure about that one. Check proxy settings, etc? Wish I could help more./
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: yeah turned my auto detect proxy on and nada
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: tried playing diablo 3 and I keep getting a message saying I can't establish a streaming connection
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: just makes me wonder if it wouldn't be safer to wipe the hd and reinstall windows
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: Well, that's certainly one way to fix it... :)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: can't wait to get my apple... so much easier 
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: Bleah. ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: I've had 1/0 the problems with apple stuff compared to windows
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: I dunno. I've never really had much in the way of problems.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: meant to say 1/10
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: maybe it's just vista lol
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: Ahhh, yes, vista is crappy.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i find it the other way around...
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: MS seems to do things like Star Trek movies. Every other one sucks.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if need osx i can vm it
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: I have a theory on that
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: microsoft employs more hackers than korea
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cpu i'm using is actually out of an imac :)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrentSk Tech: I think MS just can't leave well enough alone, and keep breaking things on a quest to find The Perfect OS, which will destroy Apple and *nix, and make everyone love them forever, amen.
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: got e 7600 runnun at 3,34 ghz :)
T3/r7/2012-12-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: well had gates not stabbed jobs in the back it would probably be a lot nicer now, but, you know business. dog eat dog world
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: is there a way to search for rooms with specific notes in the mushclient mapper? say i want to list rooms with "abc" in the note
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm, no
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: other than them not paying any corporation tax, i guess 'being crap' is another good reason for not using Amazon
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i hope the NRA sues that NFL scumbag
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: woops mis
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raypower Tech: what should i do if pc says ''unable to create tcp/?p socket for aardwolf,code =10055(no buffer space avail)
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Raypower Tech: anyone
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: Is there a link to the most up to date Mush client?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I imagine if you finger Fiendish, that might get you to an updated client.
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aarhem Tech: Thanks much
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: is there any reason I am getting this message everytime I carry something? ( {invmon}7,919289137,-1,-1 )
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes there is
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: look at help invmon
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: would you happen to know how to fix it?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: thanks:)
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you can turn it off by typing invmon
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoh Tech: I just saw that thank you:)
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: should Valve be boycotted until HL3 is brought out?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: Valve van't count up to 3
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: can't * 
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ahh, that would explain it
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: duke nukem forever?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: anyone know how to set mushclient to not auto clear input line?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> commands
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first checkbox on the right
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: much better
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: I could have saved 5 minutes asking rather than searching the wiki and help page
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can also use the arrow keys to cycle through commands, with or without that setting
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what wiki and help page did you search?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: I am used to the zmud client..but like the aardwolf client
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: http://www.gammon.com.au/mushclient/
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should try http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: if i update my client will i have to readd my plugins, and remapp areas?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hartin Tech: thanks Fiendish
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Acheos: from what version to what version?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: read the page on aardwolf's website where you can download the client...it explains how to do upgrades
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no you won't have to remap, and no you won't have to re-add your plugins. yes you will have to copy over any new plugins you've added to my setup
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if you have a sufficiently recent version you can also keep your old state folder
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sufficiently recent being anything in the past year
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: umm i believe im on 4.81
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when fiendish talks about version, he means what shows up when you type "checkversion"
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: indeed, I should have specified
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the version of his package, not of mushclient itself
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just copy your world file, the plugin "state" folder, and your map db file over to the new version and you should be fine
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: You are currently using Aardwolf MUSHclient Package version: r1557
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: sorry guys, im not goos with this stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and also any other plugins you have installed like Bast's stuff etc
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: good*
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll probably also want to get your map db_backup folder
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and maybe logs folder
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: last download from aard site should always be upgradable :P
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but that's up to you
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it is
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm still using r1557
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: r1557 is sufficiently new
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that you can keep your plugin state folder
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you don't have to configure plugins again
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: -
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: well thats good news thankyou, i just have to make sure im confident in doing so, i have a tendancy of stuffing up these things, simple as it may be, Acheos + Software is like House + Fire to put it bluntly
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fiendish's methods: So easy the Amish could do it.
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I do need to write up simpler instructions for if you're upgrading from the last version instead of from the first version
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you know there are actually Amish hackers, right?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if anyone wants to help me out by doing that for mefeel free
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: Step one, close out mushclient, create a zip file back up of the entire Mushclient folder?
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a nice way to do it...highlight your MUSHclient folder...ctrl-c to copy, ctrl-v to save...that'll give you a "Copy of MUSHclient" folder...move stuff from your original to the newly-downloaded-and-unzipped one
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people need to know exactly what files to move
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also with pictures
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: yes, especially me! pictures yes!! i need pictures!
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty sure the aard site has pictures
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: It's true, I am always amazed when I tell someone to open a file, and then go to micorsoft word and browse for the file that way...
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if only everyone could use svn, upgrading is a snap
T3/r7/2012-12-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: anyone familiar with bbssh on blackberry?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: how do I use the campaign tool on duckbat, I copy my campaign check but I just get invalid syntax ?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: can someone please tell me how the campaign tool works on duckbat.com, I've copied and past my campaign check but I just get 'invalid syntax' 
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I have Mac OS X Snow leopard 10.6.8. Do I have a good reason to upgrade?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: is there a way to lock an area so my mapper does not run me through it?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: You lock exits, not areas.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Takihisis Tech: yes, you can put a level lock on the exit into the starting room of the area.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: So for instance if you don't want to use the drageran portal, lock the exit south of the portal.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: K, so how do I lock the exit then?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: There are other ways, but right click on the room it brings up the menu.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: when you say right click the room, would that be in my big map or mini map
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: On the clickable map, not the mud mini-map.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: Cool, think it worked.  Thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: Someone using MAG and mudlet?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Takihisis Tech: do not put your MAG in a Mudlet.  Tis bad, mmkay? *grin*
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: Hah. Mean the MAG "extension" in the Mudlet mud-client
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What is MAG? What's it do?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: Just create dedicated map window 
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: and some other things like that
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: but for me, MAG = problems
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: *sad*
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: so use a better client?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: but i like the client.. What client to use in linux? 
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: aardmush :)
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: never heard of it, I'll check it out. Thx 
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: yeah it's a windows app, so you'll need wine
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Takihisis Tech: its on the aardwolf website
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: but it's the client made for aard
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: Not a big fan of wine, but it does what I try to do. Only better and less complicated
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: nods as long as you can run win 32 apps...
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Storsnik Tech: And this is what you guys are using ? 
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: type "client"
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: most players are using aard mush yeah :)
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is there a way to find out what the mud thinks im using?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've heard good about l
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: not really elk...
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sour 16 Santher Tech: and it's not a gimped client... it's a full version of mush with plugins made for aard
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: aardmush is the best imo if starting with nothing
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FoxMulder Tech: does anyone know how to fix the scrolling problem with my phone it wants to scroll up when I click on the screen?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FoxMulder Tech: does anyone know how to fix the scrolling problem with my phone it always wants to scroll up every time I touch the screen. I'm using an HTC onex 
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Any Mudlet users around?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're one of three Mudlet users currently online.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've wanted to get rid of MUSHclient for some time now... I'm trying to switch to Mudlet. Getting hang of alias creation already!
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Do N-band routers naturally have better range than G ones? I'm debating whether to just get a G extender/antenna or upgrade the router completely?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: N band has a better penetrating wavelength
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: But if most of my devices are G only, I'm probably better off just strengthening the G router signal .. ?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FoxMulder Tech: hey does anyone know how to fix the scrolling problem with my phone ever time I touch the screen it scrolls up and iy just makes it a little annoying to play.o
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: Use a computer. Easier.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FoxMulder Tech: so is that a no haha?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: run your touchscreen calibration?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FoxMulder Tech: is that in game or on my phone? cuz nothing else has problems on it. I was reading reviews on the game on android market and I sea at least one other person who had the same problem. 
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: need guidance, trying to diagnose computer with no post/monitor idle problem.  I think onboard speaker isnt working, no beeps with ram pulled, cpu fan unplugged etc.  I tested another video card and PSU and neither fixed problem.  Popped out battery, didnt fix.  Replaced mobo/cpu and still nothing.  Tested 2 other sticks of DD2 ram, both together and individually, and in both slots.   At a total loss here.
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you sure the monitor works?
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: yes, it didnt work at their office and now it doesnt work at my house either
T3/r7/2012-12-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tangel Tech: and they had 280W psu, i tested it with a known working 500w PSU
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you replaced the motherboard and your replacement motherboard also has a nonfunctional piezo?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namrof Tech: is there a way to autokey on a phone??
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what's autokey?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namrof Tech: assign a button to do something.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, just depends on the capabilities of the app you're using on your phone
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namrof Tech: how would I find that out?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: look at its docs
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Namrof Tech: awesome, thank you.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: Hi. If I download the latest Aardwolf MUSHclient package, will be my settings lost or kept?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: if you follow the instruction you keep everything (i think)
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: some will and some won't . There is an upgrade explanation on the aardwebside
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: tech ok, thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: afaik only the window layout might be lost
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: i kept my window layout...
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: anyone know how the campaign tool works on http://duckbat.com/index.php?page=campaign
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure what you mean...you paste in your output list
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: all I get is syntax error
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure you're using cp check and not cp info
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: the correct syntax is winkle
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're getting invalid syntax as only some of the lines, it's probably the lines like "You have 6 days to complete" and "one of more target names might be scrambled"
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ignore those and look at the lines that work
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: so a line like 'You still have to kill * Verblain and Me                                                                 lox (The Grand City of Aylor)' will work?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: got it, thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyone willing to help me with telnet options? Specifically the channel/option 102 stuff and tick timers.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What is sent in the "100" value? What's in "101"? I understand "101" is sent on every tick?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: OHh, help telopts helps with that...
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: Hi, I'm not sure if this is the best channel, but was wondering if there was anyone around who is vi and happens to use jaws with the mushclient?  I'm trying it for the first time, and it would be nice to chat with someone who's more familiar with all this.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Curi is online, I know she's VI--she might be willing to talk
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: Ok, thank you.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aravis Tech: Hello again, sorry to bother you... but could someone explain to me what miniwindows (as regarding mushclient are?) lol. Before trying this, I used a client called gmud, really old but extremely basic and worked really well with screenreaders. Mushclient seems a lot more beneficial for playing, but a lot more confusing lol.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Takihisis Tech: miniwindows in mush are the equivalent of capture windows in gmud
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Takihisis Tech: its just a place you can send text out of the main window so that you can read it at your leisure.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Lacrimosa Tech: Aravis, you may well wish to use a more stock mushclient than the miniwindowed one--from my understanding, screen readers tend to only read the main window anyway
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: is the r1720 snapshot worth it?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all snapshots tell you what has been changed :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Worth what? It's free.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: yeh but i dont understand
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's so that you can make up your own mind
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Acheos Tech: and you know my problem about the maps and files thing, im still not sure how to do it
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: www.aardwolf.com, click the screenshot, click download client...read that page carefully (but don't download from that page, since that's older)
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Jameson Tech: anyone familar with utorrent
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Jameson Tech: how do you find things to download. ex:alice in wonderland?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: The Pirate Bay
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: use google
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: TPB is where I go for everything from movies to programs.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Jameson Tech: awesome :) thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Piffaron Tech: anything to the new software (ICC or something) that logs all torrent downloads and IPs?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You're lucky, here is the entire text of the book: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/11
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's public domain.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: Its obviously piracy but you should know that.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you wanted something other than that, it's likely still covered by copyright, and this is NOT the place to ask.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: if I can't ping aardmud.org from my computer, it times out..but I can do everything else on the internet.. what should I check next
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: Its a mad world.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: Thx.....
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: utorrent is also the VERY VERY WORST BitTorrent client I've ever installed. It flooded my computer with crapware, ads, browser bars and whatnot.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: noob
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: Cizra user error.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: learn how freeware installers work :P
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, old versions are great. i use 2.0.2
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, so it's not an uTorrent problem?
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: uTorrent is fine.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: I get nothing but what I want to download.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Normally I use rtorrent on Linux, but somehow I wanted to have one on Windwoes.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: the designer made it to do exactly what he wanted it to do
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: deluge on my seedbox
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: uTorrent is small in size and works like a charm, fiddle with the settings and you get some nice download speeds.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: afaik the only client that has a decent thin interface
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: that's the problem with freeware
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, wait, i think 1.8.3 was the golden version of utorrent
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: some of it (most of it?) is crap ware
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: 1.6.1
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Erh, 99% of the freeware for Linux is nowhere near crapware.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, it just sucks
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( unless you're running a server )
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: ok, I have only dabbled with Linux
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'm using it on desktop -- and I usually find things I need annoyingly hard to install on Windwoes.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, when installing utorrent use an older version and look what you're clicking on
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Nowadays, I think, there's a sane-ish environment for LaTeX. Same for Emacs. Not sure about, say, Coq...
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because there's a whole damn screen that asks you if you want to install that crap
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I usually look where I'm clicking.. the installer must have played a hypnotic pattern OSLT.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only installs i ran on my base debian install was aptitude install deluged samba htop. cli ftw
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just put an OK box in a window and 90% of all people will click on it right away
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: [ OK ]
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sweet 16 Jameson raises his hand.
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmmm, I'd really like to know who are the other 2 Mudlet users right now online.. and pester them about my nice stuff :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: So I was rummaging through my stuff and found an old 3G iPod...
T3/r7/2012-12-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: But I don't know how to charge it any more. Do the new docks work?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone do the Project Euler problems?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: I used to do them
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Finally convinced myself to get back into maths, was recommended them as a sort of motivator :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: some of them are really fun!
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Done up to 35, sorted by # completed... never realised what an AWFUL programmer I was efficiency-wise until now
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pumpkin Tech: keep up the good work! :)
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: store last few comments Vaki - will ask u bouut em when sober 
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: with the aard mush mapper, anyone know if theres a way to search rooms based on notes? say i have ABC-1, ABC-2, ABC-3 as notes, can i search for ABC and get these 3 rooms listed?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: it could technically be done, I don't think there is a feature for it at the moment
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you can search for all rooms with notes in the given area
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It's all based in a SQL db, easy enough to whip up a script for it if you know Lua
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: easier still to use 'mapper notes here', but depends on what Thunderax really wants to achieve
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have a system where I can set a note to something, then 'runto <note>' - very easy aliasing to any room in the mud
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Yeah I could see that working, but only for a few small purposes - campaign, questor, hotel - otherwise I'd just forget the alias I'd set
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, that just relies on a decent system - I usually set the notes to match where I can get decent gameload eq to chant, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: can lua tables be global
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: as in seen from other plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ofcourse
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: how do I access it
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Save it to a file, access the file concurrently
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: I think you can put them into one of the lua scrips file and include that file in the plugins you need?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: they need to be separate plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: access plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Transactions are always locked in sqlite, so you don't have to worry about buggering things up so long as you don't assume things
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: there's no sqlite it's a lua table
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: actually bast explains it best in his documentation 
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: So save the lua table as an sqlite db... no need to reinvent the wheel, and Bast's pluginhelper setup is downright confusing... :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: where does he explain it
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: saving into table won't work, needs to be lua table
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: into sqlite
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: accessing other plugins are basic. tables in there are as simple
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: what if one plugin broadcasts it when it's updated and another has onbroadcast function
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: every broadcast plugin of his has explanation, you can use that information to everything else
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: he has a thousand plugins if you know which one he uses it in you should just say that
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well, if it starts with broadcast_ or x, it's a broadcaster...
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: any plugin that broudcasts things, has same info
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: I can do a broadcast myself you didn't say it needs to be broadcasted
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: they are named such, they dont broudcast anything
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: other plugins can just pick info from them
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: such as stats etc
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: what about gmcp, do I need to include onpluginbroadcast function in all plugins or is there better way
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can pick something with function and then use it on others through that. 
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no need to do same thing several times
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: so one plugin gets gmcpval("num") on plugin broadcast, sets it in a table
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: how do you access this table from another
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: or I just add onpluginbroadcast to the other and cap it again, I dunno
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can access the table everytime plugin proadcasts, or you can access it when you want. onpluginproadcast means you get information everytime plugin gets information
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: k look
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: you have 5 plugins that need the value of the room vnum for instance
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: do you add onpluginbroadcast to all to set to different variables
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: or add function to one, then rest can access its table with the vnum somehow
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: depends on situation. do you need it to know where you are, or where you run?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: it doesn't matter it's just an example
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: what it is in some moment of time
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: isn't it what the gmcp helper does tho
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: it just gets it and broadcasts it
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: if I make a pluging that gets the gmcp broadcast, then broadcast it again, it's a bit pointless
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: would make more sense for all the plugins that need the vnum to just have onpluginbroadcast for the gmcp plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so why not use broadcaster itself?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: do as your told!
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cody ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ullin Tech: if you only need to get info you can just do res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264","gmcpval",YourGMCPfield here)
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse slaps Ullin.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: well that's my question, do I use the broadcaster or is there a better way :P
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: too much information there ullin, let him learn!
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: learn what, I'm already using this
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: there is no need for broadcaster, you can access any information that you make global in any plugin you make. you just need to make that first plugin. there however are several that use information which you can access without creating the wheel again
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: so we're back to 10 mins ago, how do I make this lua table global :)
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and that, what ullin said
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://www.lua.org/pil/15.4.html
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: okay
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: how do you say in regex whatever is in brackets could be there could be not
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on how many times it may be there
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: once
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then [foo]?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: will try
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but that would mean that there could only be one f or one o...not actuatlly foo
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want a literal "something" (multiple letters) to be optional, then use () rather than []
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what're you trying to match
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: lemme check if it's actually %3 or no
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: try (whatever){0,1} 
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if ? won't work, neither will {0,1}...it's the pattern that's incorrect
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: right
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: iunno the pattern is wrong, the [] brackets cut off the pot name
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: when you recite there's " on yourself" at the end sometimes
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: brackets don't do anything except say "this character will be one of those letters"
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: I want it to work on quaff/recite
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathik Tech: easiest way to get help for regular expressions is to copy and paste your line and tell us which part of it you are trying to match/capture
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: I just exaplained it
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so you're trying to write a single regex that matches "You quaff xxxx.", "You recite a scroll of xxx."...and "You recite a scroll of xxx on yourself."
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: on whoever, technically
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: If you don't want to simply do the script to know whether it's a pot or a scroll, I'd leave it as "^You (quaff|recite) (.*?)( on)?"
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: it needs the dot in the end I can't get it to work
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: so it needs to have a wildcard for the target
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you have nopretitles set, you get into issues where you don't know how many words or characters (or even what special characters they may contain) are in either the pot/scrollname or the targetname...as 2 regexes, you can at least force the "on" as the separator, but other than getting involved with looks, it's not a simple regex
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: alright then
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: if no dot it doesn't know the name of the pot
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: has to be dot
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: why do I care what the target is, can't I just put 'whatever text to the dot'
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the text is "You recite a scroll of heal on yourself.", then "text to the dot" includes "a scroll of heal on yourself"
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: see how this works for you: ^You (quaff|recite) (.*?)( on (.*?))?[.]$
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that should give you a first capture of quaff or recite, a second capture of pot/scrollname, and a third capture of blank or "on target", and a fourth capture of just target
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 TrEz Tech: nod this works nicely :P thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: Abe is my tech/Answer channel hero.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Is there a way to include line breaks using output from the aard note formatter?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: rats. thanks.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the note formatter puts in line breaks, but not skipped lines, if that's what you mean
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: yeah, the skipped lines
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you click format, and then copy/past, you'll copy/paste the line breaks, too
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when I compose notes, I put @w on lines that I want to be blank lines before pasting
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: Great, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but I don't use the note formatter, I do that in my text editor...not sure what the formatter does with color codes
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cherylpantz Tech: @w worked perfectly. Thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh. youtube refuses to use flash on firefox. anyone have a similar problem?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not that bad, but full screen blows and screen dim kicks in
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: aren't you using some kind of blocker? adblock, script block, etc ?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: of course, but youtube is whitelisted
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but, come to think about it, youtube might have some new ad system that triggered adblock. checking it
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: nope. doesn't seem to be the case
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: vanilla does the same thing. chrome as well
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and youtube still says that html5 is opt-in trial
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: other than the instant spellup reward, are there other timed blessing rewards that have a timer that's not 18 hours long?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: wow, it's amazing how needy aard users have gotten
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: and how they still lack knowledge of what's relevant on a specific channel
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I figured it was more appropriate here than on question, since it's a scripting thing.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: how is that a scripting thing?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: tobe what does it matter, its for a script
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: informational script, and I'm looking for data.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: do you need to know what his script is?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: that wasn't stated
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's scripting because he's obviously trying to write a trigger/script for daily rewards
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: how is that obvious?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: because it was asked on the tech channel
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it was asked on tech channel.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: ...
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Was to everyone but you, apparently
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: idiots, i'm gonna ignore all of you
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its sad how stupid aard people have gotten lately
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'll take that as a win.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doc Holliday smirks.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Tobe is now ignoring you.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: three cheers for the burg!
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Logansen Tech: i feel left out:( maybe he ignore me too?!
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: you guys are pretty dumb
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and to answer the question, i dont think there is anything else bub
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Can't argue with troll logic. You win, broski.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: just because we feed trolls doesn't mean we're unaware of them.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Sometimes it's fun to watch them do tricks for the food.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Arystul Tech: anyone know why when using xrt andarin my client uses mapper move -1
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: -1 is an unmappable room. Either maze or chall.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Arystul Tech: okay thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: you are welcome
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Are there any numeric area IDs available for players?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: open halls are mappable, closed parts aren't.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What do you mean, Ciz?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: none to use in place of name/keyword
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Area IDs are textual. Like "bootcamp". I want to get a numeric one.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You have to build your own list
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: 'fraid so )= And then keep it up to date for ever and ever.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Owait, no, I can just assign the ID sequentially upon encountering a new area!
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I just added a where command and a custom save to an array after each runto. Added it in a runto alias with an mud echo at the end, that i triggered off of and issues a where to get area name, area short name from gmcp, along with the id, and placed them into an associative array.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra goes back to hacking, happy as a happy clam.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I guess my way would suffice to generate IDs. I just need them to persist.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: save the db to file
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Actually did the same thing to auto-map all my personal portals, in-room exits, and in-room portals. I'm too lazy to do it myself, so I let the mapper learn how I played.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Azrael Tech: hmm using winkles S and D and the cp list says a mob is in an area but detect invis and heighten and I cant find the mob
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Well, I use tt++ which isn't so playful with SQL. I have to have a separate session running to hold/run my sql executes, which becomes a pain to pass back and forth values.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Why tt++? For consoleity?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: established habit, likely
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Come from a strong headerless linux background, it's soothing to use CLI
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I used to use mushclient before tt++, even built several fairly used plugins out there, but eventually I ended up using tt++, and never looked back.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I used to use MUSHclient, but now I'm switching away...
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: just wondering, what cant you do with mush that you need to
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I do like the lua environment, lua is one of my primary languages and I love using it, but i find mudlet to be a little more versatile with its platforms.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: For instance, run it on Linux natively. Also, MUSHclient happily gobbles away at CPU time even when idle.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (might be a Wine issue, dunno)
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's not that there's anything I can't do in Mush, it's just that I find tt++'s GUI (or lackthereof) to be a preferable way to play a MUD.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What does the gmcp.room.wrongdir thingy signify?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tells the gmcp mapper scripts/feature not to move you.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you're familiar with ZMud/CMud, it's the same as #NODIR.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Not familiar. So it's a direction where it doesn't want me to go?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: When i get it, i tell my #path to delete the last move I made (newsud trigger for specific path mapping).
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it's either an invalid direction (ie, going west in a room with no west exit) or the game returned a result moreorless of "wait, you can't go there yet"
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: essentially you get that when you walk into a wall, or a door you can't pass, or essentially you try to move, but don't.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ohh, OK. That's cool. Thanks!
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: This stuff ought to be wikified.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I think there may be situations where it's not sent, but I don't remember (since CMud handles GMCP automagically)
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's not on the wiki already?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think not.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: explanation of the GMCP stuff is already on the wiki, so at least some of it is there.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I know, but not wrongdir
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: surprised Bambi never was.
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: whats the command to check for updates on mush and bast?
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: dont remember them off the top of my head
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: sudo rm -rf /
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: har har har
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: for mine, it is bup check
T3/r7/2012-12-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Electrobite Tech: lets say, if i copy ALL windows 8 pro files to another harddrive will it also be like win 8 win i boot it from that harddrive?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could use acronis to transfer system image
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: or usb key wintogo
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: boot on win 8 on usb key
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: I think apple os is the only one that allows you to create a bootable external hd, I might be mistaken though
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Electrobite Tech: well im hearing stuff about theres a trick to let your usb flash work as ram is it true?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why would one to do so? flash is much slower than ram
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: I think you are getting confused with hybrid hard drives that are a combination of an ssd and a hd
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You can possibly use it for a performance bootst but you can't use anything as RAM except RAM.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quickshadow Tech: you can load windows onto the ssd and then leave the rest of your hd for whatever else
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: very easy to do in linux - #dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: same on osx, i think
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: for the usb, try to turn on readyboost (I think that is what MS called it)
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Electrobite Tech: fing wario
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Electrobite Tech: oops
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Grareareargh. If anyone's on who's familiar with Bast's spellup plug-in thru MUSHclient, it refuses to acknowledge that 'mind over body' is cast and keeps casting it repeatedly.  Over and over.  And then putting it back in the "pending" queue even though it's been cast.  I'm not sure how to fix it.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Does it have something to do with the fact that 'mind over body' doesn't appear in the spellup list when you type affects?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: there are no tags sent for that spell, therefore it will not work as a spellup spell
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: Interesting though - why no tags?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Especially since sustenance has tags, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: They function under the same principle...
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do they, mind over body just seems to set your thirst and hunger, what does sustenance do?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: keeps it from going down too fast?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: sustenance halves your hunger/thirst timer, mind over body just sets your hunger/thirst
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: Oh mind over body is like eating/drinking that explains it...
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I suppose that's a good point.  Sustenance slows it.  Mind over body sets it to where it never moves?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Or what Mendaloth said...that's an interesting way of looking at it.  I never realized.  I assumed it was just the psi version of sustenance and went on my way.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: You can never "be affected by" mind over body.  So, any spellup script isn't going to know when to cast it.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Unless it specifically monitors your hunger
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: m-o-b seems equivalent to eating/drinking; it sets no affect
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I wonder if someone should propose changing it to reflect the same concept as sustenance...having a spell that eats and drinks for you seems somewhat useless given containers and the multitude of fountains in clans, doesn't it?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: One less item to carry around?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's not a spellup spell anyway, so why use it in a spellup script?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The original reason why I set it as one was because I was under the impression it was equivalent to sustenance (which it isn't).
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: How dumb is it to use --no-whole-file with rsync when backing stuff up to a USB hard disk?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so im having technical difficulities with gparted, anyone able to assist me for a few
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: I'm listening. No guarantees of help.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so i have a drive, 105GB partition | 6GB swap | 1.2T unallocated
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: why cant i extend the 105 using the TB thats unallocated
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: I guess the partitions are not contiguous?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: You might have to shift the swap along to the side before you can extend the 105.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it wont allow me to move/edit the swap partition
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is it in use?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: booted to a live cd
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: Well... it's swap, if it's not in use (thanks Abelinc) delete it and create a new one.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lemme make sure its not mounted lol
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: in use = no
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just get more ram and get rid of swap
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have 0 swap and it's never been a problem
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have 8GB ram right now
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: then you don't need swap
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I shouldn't say that outright. If you do things like statistical analysis on extremely large data sets then you could, but otherwise you don't
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: Hmm. My swap is free at the moment.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: swap is a quaint idea from before RAM was mega cheap
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: Hibernate still goes to swap, right?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: removed swap, it's allowing me to extend partition now
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: hibernate goes to a hibernate file
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hibernate never went to swap
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hibernate does not go to swap. that'd be nuts
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: Ah, right. My bad.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be an infinite loop if hibernate went to swap
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: swap is still relevent
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz hibernate is a snapshot of RAM, and swap is a RAM extension
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: I thought it needed swap for hibernate.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OSes used to run better (mem management) with swap turned on
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: swap is just an extension of the ram heirarchy
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hierarchy
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but dunno that that's been true in years
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's still true now
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it isn't
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: you think you can run windows on a 1gb machine without a swap file?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tech the ideal running of a system is that you never use swap ever.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: Ideal.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you should have at least 4GB in any computer
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: ideal, yes, not reality though
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: The problem is running Windows...
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the reality is that RAM is sickeningly cheap
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but back in the day, even if you never touched swap your system would manage memory more efficiently with it turned on
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: even with lots of ram there are occasions where swap will be used
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: just that those occasions are fewer and farther between
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I remember back before swap even existed for programs on Macs and there were third party software addons like RamDoubler you could get to simulate it
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: swap existed before ramdoubler
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ramdoubler compressed and shifted the swap
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it wasn't really usable for applications
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: swap files have probably been around as long as there have been direct access media
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you had to manually designate memory quantities for programs to use, and if you hit the wall you hit the wall
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and it wasn't an addressing limit
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, ramdoubler basically abstracted that and lied to the systems
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway back to the original subject, if you're non-accidentally using swap space then you don't have as much ram as you need
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: removing the swap allowed me to do what i wanted, thanks guys
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on modern filesystems, there's not even much need for partitioning anymore
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't even use initrd anymore
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i had cloned a smaller SSD that was acting like it was failing, so it kept original partition size and didnt allocate the remaining
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you used to partition to protect the OS from a full drive...yours is over terabyte already :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: When did it become possible to make more than 4 primary partitions?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not sure how something acts like it's failing unless it's failing
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: retries, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: Then it is failing, just not badly :P
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only thing I can think of is that some SSD firmwares don't report SMART status uniformly, so monitor software may report errors that don't exist
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Trurien Tech: But what we have here is a failure of the principle of charity.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well every reboot it would be corrupt and i could repair it
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: then it woulid be good for 2-3 days, then it would act flaky and i would reboot - boom corrupt
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would be corrupt or "dirty"?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well now i dont remember, :)
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: big secret of data corruption. you can't actually repair it. 
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dirty basically just means that, by the time power was turned off, the OS had not yet changed a file
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: systems just pretend like the corrupt sections probably weren't that important and block them off
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not necessarily true
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the type of corruption and the capabilities of the underlying system...blocking off the sections is part of the solution, but recovering the data and putting it elsewhere is repairing the corruption of data
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have suggestions on newsgroup indexers?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: what is the preferred unix mud client nowadays?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: A lot of poeple use wine/mushclient.  tintin and tinyfugue seem popular command line choices.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: or your can just type 'clients' and see how many people use each
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: how useful.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Mendaloth Tech: Hmmm don't think I've seen Kildclient on clients before.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It's on there sometimes, most I've ever seen is 2 users though
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: I like kild :P
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nothing fancy though, I guess
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gathaldrium Tech: I wish TinyFugue was still maintained.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I have yet to come across something I cannot perform with tf...it supports more-modern things than zmud, like GMCP :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: winkle?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: only cause you patched it :P
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what about winkle? I could totally do that in tinyfugue
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I recreated winkle for tt++, it wouldn't be any harder for tf
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: haven't looked at that clients command in forever :P it makes me feel unique and special to be the only kildclient :P
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: winkle doesn't really do much of anything on its own
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the complexity of it is the mapper...winkle is an enabler bolton
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The mapper's findpath.lua is a thing of beauty, imo. That's where the magic happens
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I find that the #path logic to be equally as beautiful.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just need to know ASCII C to modify it, versus Lua.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't actively use a pathfinding function in tinyfugue, but I do send the GMCP data to a database, so I'm building the mapper db as I go, just using it for basic lookups currently
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ASCII C?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ANSI
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yeah, damn muscle memory
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Meh. Anyone programming Lua without learning C first is criplling themselves.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: crippling*
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why so?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, try talking to aarhem without typing aardhelm :P
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: that's what I say about people that try to learn c++ before c :s
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I agree, but there are also enough standalone compilers that you don't /need/ to know C
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: I had a school that thought c++ in the first semester, with no c :(
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Becomes a 'push the magic button, ooh colours' kinda deal otherwise. Anyhoo, time for work, cya!
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I learned just about everything before C, and I'm not really having a hard itme.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: i actually learned Lua as my first language, and then went backwards to learn c/c++
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But yes, fair point there. It just requires quite a bit more thinking to write a simple piece of code in C than it would in a more modern scripting language.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: difference between "having a hard time" and "understanding basic concepts of programming elegantly"...
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Lower level management, that's where all the extra writing exists.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In that case, everyone should learn to hex code before anything else :P
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (1) hex isn't code, (2) it doesn't help teach the hows/whys
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Coming from Lua to C/C++ I was completely ignorant of what the hell the purpose of a pointer was. Which is a concept that is pretty damn important to know.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: perhaps you meant assembler
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What does assembler compile into then? Non-code?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: binary opcodes, Bob
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It doesn't compile, it assembles.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: not "hex" although I've heard it referred to as that
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: hex editors are definitely useful for reading the opcodes
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, bob, you definitely showed that you have NFC what you're talking about wrt programming/languages
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What does near field communications have to do with bob
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly at him.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger looks at Daloran and goes "Heh."
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran runs away in utter terror!
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think I will make that a thing at work. When my boss starts mouthing off, I shall say he has near field communications problems.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: PEBCAC problems
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: dat chair
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: PEBKAC.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, it's my day for typos. Deal with it.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also ID Ten T errors.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not as effective spelling out 10 :P
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: More subtle though. If you see Id10t in type, its pretty obvious what you meant. verbally its not so bad
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it only works in spoken...in writing you either make it look silly or you get in trouble...
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nods
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I went with the former. =o
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's no good, Rain of Blood by Slayer has me beaten
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: I'm unable to set up a second world in mushclient, It hangs on "can you tust your plugins?" Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: You probably are running into an anti-multiplay feature.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: I don't understand. I'm only trying to load one  at a time.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: I've had the same problem with a second character here, and with a totally different mud
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have no problem running 5 worlds at once
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd suggest just copying your entire MUSHclient folder
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does it happen if you connect to a different game/server?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: yeah, I understand it should work that way. Just wondering if anyone knows wwhat I'm doing wrong.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you trying to name it the same thing as the first?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: I tried that. I'll try again and be sure to not copy the world file.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: when you first open mush, does it happen if you try to connect to your second session prior to loading your main session?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: different names
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: good question. I've closed mushclient and tried. I could try a reboot and see what happens.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: Couple of good thoughts, thanks. If it doesn't come around I'll see what I can find at Gammon
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Where is your MUSHclient.exe file located?  Somewhere that you have access priviliges to?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: yes I'm admin on xp pro
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: ok, I'm out to work on it. Thanks for the help
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: does the 10 minutes of double from blessing have a timer on it, or does it work like free sh (sets a value on the pfile) or activate immediately?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it has an 18 hour timer to use it
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "daily"...look at it in the list
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I haven't got it yet
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's always obvious and doesn't need to be wondered...
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so, obviously, free sh has a timer on it too (since I didn't get that either)
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, you must get 199 levels in 18 hours...better hire a T9 redo dragger
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: a simple way to get duration between last trigger is os.time()?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: Say want to get last level duration
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are plugins that already tell you that, though
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: ahh sweet. Been searching on gammon site
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: any good recommendation for the most basic one?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, bast's statdb will keep track of damn near anything for you
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Massacrer Macbeth Tech: Sure thing, thanks man
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his statmonitor would be the "lite" version of statdb
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: can't remember my password because I've got it to where the Portal program automatically logs me in. i'm wondering who i would talk to get help with a password recovery so that I can download Mushclient....
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: see help password :)
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Is there a mapper command tutorial online?  cexits, portals etc?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/GMCPmapper
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Strazor Tech: Thank you bast.
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: your welcome
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the site for everything about the aard client package and all its included plugins :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: absolute buttload of info there
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: is buttload a metric or imperial measurement?
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: metricwould be arseload
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: metric is not british....
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: metric is french
T3/r7/2012-12-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Psycronic Tech: derrierload then?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: anyone still here that was around when i was asking about not being able to make more than one world work in mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: me, but I don't use mush so my help will be generic in nature
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: did you see any results by rebooting, et al?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: thanks, but I found a few answers, on the right track, but my questions are specific to muchclient
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: Didn't go there yet, but I learned that apparently on the second world there's a disconnect during login. I can click on connection>connect and it will run
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that should only happen if you're trying to log on the same character, I think.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: but I have a loss of plugins. At this point I need to know how many plugins are running on your custom Aardwolf mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a fresh install should show that.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: If tou go to global proerties > plugin tabs there's a number there
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: file > global properties > plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: could you please take a quick look and tell me the number on your plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: none, I don't use mush.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: ah, ok. sorry. I lost track of that. Thanks anyway. I'll get it
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Keelo, open up the plugins list, and check to see who created the plugin.  Look for the ones by Fiendish or Nick Gammon, those should be more or less the base plugins.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Unless I'm completely misunderstanding what you are looking for
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Keelo, that's not the only place plugins are loaded
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: When I check that, I get 0, and I'm using plugins.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: keelo: the number in global prefs -> plugins is 0
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: if you are using mushclient ou want to go File>plugins and you should see all of the plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: ok thanks Fluffhead. I'll keep that in mind if this doesn't work./ Maybe a remove and reinstall is in order
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard mushclient will pretty much always have 0 for that number, unless you do stuff the wrong way to it
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: assuming the spell can be cast on yourself, yes
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: right. And I do in my first world that worls. They are not there in the second world which doesn't, so I am putting them in. I just wnated to verify I have the right nimber
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to add them there
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: If I dragged a GUI in a way that the top is hidden at the top of mushclient (so I cant drag it back down), how can I fix this?  I tried removeing/adding it
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ampersand: depends on whose plugin it is
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: I made no changes in the first worlld that is working and it shows 17 plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: is the winkie one, for search and destroy
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "resetaard" for the stock ones...winkle has another command for his
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: mpersand try aardreset (I think)
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: tech
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: yeah the othe rone
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: Ill try it out, thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: its xset gui or soemthing like that there is a help file in that plug
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always go to the website of the authors and the helps inside the plugin for info on how to use plugins, including layout stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: doing that now, solid advice, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: was xset reset gui, thanks for the advice everyone
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Electrobite Tech: i thought the new mush came out with autohunt
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, aardmush will likely never include autohunt
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Electrobite Tech: oh then it had to be basts triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast does have an autohunt, yes
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he used to include swalec's autohunt which was years old, then he revamped it (or rewrote it, never bothered comparing)
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: hey
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: anyone on?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: i'm able to type and see chat in the chat window but only my echo's are showing in the main window
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "When you see me, tell me I'm not around", Jhav goes, and leaps behind the sofa to hide from himself.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: so when I look, i see look echod but nothing is happening in my main window
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: right click > echo channels in main window
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Try right-clicking on the chat window, Echo Channels in Main Window -> Echo All
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: hrm?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: okay that's not helped my main window, currently i can't look move or do anything!
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: turn it off and on again
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: okay that's not true, i can move and my mapper window moves but my main window doesn't display anything!
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that's odd, try restarting the program?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: darnit, why does it have to work after a reset that someone ELSE thought of
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that is not first time I see this problem. just cant find the fix....
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: oh right, restart program!
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: would like to see what causes it though.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: restarting/rebooting seldom occurs to me too, until someone else suggests it!
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that's not first time that main window not showing anything occurs. it would be nice to know what causes it...
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Must be on Topfox Tech: is there a plugin out there to sort and wear eq?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: argh, does anyone know how to disable autocorrect in open office (spreadsheet)? Google doesn't seem to know.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First google result: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=44961
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Thy Google Fu is weak, old man. *laser sching noise, heavy helmet breathing*
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: And shame on you for saying google doesn't know.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: we need "shame on you" social :P
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: tsk?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... it says autocomplete though... not sure if that works, was searching for autocorrect
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: there's plenty of results look harder
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: huh, it was called autocomplete. I thought it was called autocorrect, no wonder I couldn't find it. Thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: tech http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12630
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it was changing my Xs to xs for no good reason, drove me nuts.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, that was the topic I saw initially, but there was no such option
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the autocomplete worked though
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: good to know when I run into that problem myself. 
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Just remember, being open source open contribute, open office is FAR less likely to have any 'well wtf don't they have this convenient popular feature' than proprietary software. Someone has ALWAYS, always, always asked the question before :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe that autocorrect thing is for the document program, while autocomplete is for the spreadsheet one. oh well
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I saw a lot of people asking, and not getting right answers. Probably had the same problem I did
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Could be the format designated for the cell you're working in too.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that is, asuuming autocorrect was doing it when it was really autocomplete, so couldn't find solution, etc.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The nice guy thing to do now is go through all of the forum posts you arrived at, and drop a 'correct answer here' link.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only thing worse than a forum post asking a question ages ago with no response? One where the second comment is 'oh nvm I fixed it lol'... and NO GODDAMN EXPLANATION OF HOW :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: is there a way to tell the mapper that a room has aggro mobs and to avoid it at all costs? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In Mushclient you can set level locks on the exits.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: ahh awesome, so i can set (for example a lvl 300 level lock) to always avoid a room?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Exactly
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Although if there are other exits it might try to.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 300 may be excessive :p
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If you really want to avoid it pathing THROUGH the room, lock all exits leading out of it
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: the hotel california effect... you can get in but never leave
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eutychus claps at Ontuct's performance.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: Heya guys. I've a quick question. I'm new here and using jaws screen reader with mush client. Whenever I engage in battle, I constantly hear my hp, mana, etc spoken. Is there a way to turn this information off? I can't follow the fight otherwise because all this extra stuff is in the way.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask Cera, I think she uses something similar.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: You can toggle battle prompts off with the bprompt command, you probably won't want to do that though cause you'll want to know when you're dying
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: Glancing through the VI helpfiles, I don't see anything about how other visually impaired players deal with that...
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how will you track your health status if it isn't reported?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: Hmmmm... I'll play around with a few things I suppose. Thanks, guys. Maybe I'll come into contact with something. It's just, by the time jaws stops speaking that information, the fight is basically over. lol
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: It's difficult to follow that way anyway.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: you can always configure your battle prompt however you want
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: so you can have it only report your current hp, that would shorten it up
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: there aren't any punctuations between the different stats, so all I'm hearing is a jumble I can't really make sense of anyway.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: really? sorry, a few messages behind
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: I think I will do that. Configure battle prompt. I'll check the helpfiles on how to do that.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah just use hp percent so you have say something like HP 50%
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: so would the sintax just be hp% or something like config battle prompts hp% ?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hp %%p%%
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: hp %p%%
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or maybe you don't need the extra %%'s... i think that's enemy percent...
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah... this is my bprompt
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Your battle prompt is: T-%B%% HP-%p MP-%P MV-%N (%e) %K%L Q:%q A:%a T:%X%d%c
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: Sigh. I can't seem to configure this, even with your example.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: bprompt HP %p
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: small p not capital
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: capital p is for mana
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: Thanks. let me try. smile
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there an options like du that lists files not just directories?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ls -lS will sort by file size for a single directory, I don't know of one that will do a subtree like du will
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have a rogue file filling up my HDD trying to determine what it is
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: does anyone have a good link to learn how to create basic triggers?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: like one that is a lttle easier to understand than the reference provided by mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Holliday: use "du --max-depth=1" to tell you which directory is the largest and then go down until you find out where the file is
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: http://pastebin.com/RMqTrP25
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it just doesnt add up
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and /home/rwhite2747/ is empty other than folders
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: looks like most of the space is in "/home/rwhite2747" not in any of the subdirectories, is there not a large file just in "/home/rwhite2747"?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: oops, missed that last part
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what does "df" say for that mount point? does it say there is that much used?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "du -sh *" to enumerate both files and directories, btw
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: thanks Abelinc, didn't know that
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: it shows that much is used
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so yea when i do it it shows like 40MB of data, but it also shows 1.3T used
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: this is why im lost
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: and there isn't a dotfile that is hidden in /home/rwrite2747?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: there i added some stuff to that link
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so you can see what im seeing :)
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: no hidden files that i can see
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: can you add a "ls -al"?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so there is a .file in there :)
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks, its .xsession-errors
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: glad I could be of service
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: now to figure out where that came from
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's from X11...everything wine uses X11
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is written by the X server, i am guessing it is mostly the same error from the same piece of software
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: probably a bunch of "can't find font file" lines, where it's just falling back on a different font
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so i rm -rf .xsession-errors
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: unless you're actively having an issue with wine, yeah, just delete it
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: and ive cleard ~/.Trash/* and /root/.Trash/*
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but still shows 100% usage
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well it does on df
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: does du show the same?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: showd 1.2T now, but i think that includes my 1.2T raid drive because i have it mounted as /raid/
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: what raid array are you using?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: using software raid
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: now that the files and things are clear, going to reboot and see what happens
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks for the help Base/Abe
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Bast
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Like a virtual raid?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes, created through webmin
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Oh nice. I recreate those sometimes with Rstudio for recoveries.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: rebooted - all data is accurate now, thanks a million guys
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayliana Tech: Hey guys. I was trying to configure something and I typed "config prompt" to see what would happen. Well, now every time someonne posts something, every time I cast a spell or something, the work config is always spoken before whatever I'm doing. Any ideas how to turn this off?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: type prompt all
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: for those who were following my misadventures with mushclient, my problem was in the plugins loading. I deleted them, installed into another folder, and copied the plugins over. That fixed it.
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Must be on Topfox Tech: anybody here play WOW?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nope we live on aard
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Must be on Topfox Tech: yah me too lol :P
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone know off hand if bitchx supports dcc?
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry I only use irssi
T3/r7/2012-12-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: sorry that's beyond my pay grade
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: so i cant ping aardmud.org when i am connected to my att uverse account. on a computer or an ipad. it all times out. when i connected to  verizon mobile data i can connect on the same computer and ipad. I've reset the router and i've restarted a few times..is there any chance aard blocked my ip or what else could i be missing
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: heh maybe
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: are there any scripts around to help you practice stuff after remorting?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i just write an alias that spams every useful skill i can think of
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: ahh cool, might make one of those then :P
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not the best but easy and only is done once a mort anyway
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: is the mccp proxy available for other operating systems, or as source perhaps?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Darkwing Duckbat Tech: http://www.mudbytes.net/index.php?a=articles&s=mccp
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: thx
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: umm, no permission for that site??
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Must be on Topfox Tech: is there a plugins somewhere to sort and/or wear eq?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I have a plugin called eqDB, as well as in the next release I will have an eqSet plugin to help with eq
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could define aliases - like level41 - and do all actions required for that lev
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: facebook suggestions?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher sighs.
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know where the settings in Outlook 10 where the browser setting is? Ie, when I click a link in email, it always opens firefox even though chrome is my default browser.
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Should be system internet settings
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: default browser, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: nvm, misread
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Hehe
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: odd, I don't recall doing anything speecial to my Outlook but it's opening in my default
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Me either
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: But on this PC it always opens FF, and I just verified, Chrome is set as default.
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: interesting. I uninstalled FF, and it opens chrome now, and when I reinstalled FF, it still uses chrome. Not sure what the issue was.
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: would be a setting in outlook 10
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Threeshot Tech: there is an applications tab somewhere in there. It assigns apps to prgram types
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah usually best to leave those settings as default :P
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Threeshot Tech: I'd almost bet that html is set ro FF
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Threeshot Tech: almost, but not quite
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: anyone knows whats the problem when the lcd screen of my laptop has many lines on it?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Artifacts?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try pinching the hinges in different spots
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: means banging the side of the screen didn't fix the problem.
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the bottom bezel
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: sounds like a connector problem. better that than drivers. Same problem on different prgrams?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some laptops had an issue where the connector of the ribbon cable came loose
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i got a big vertical line on my monitor after someone tossed some beer on it
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can pinch/squeeze where that connector is to put itback in place
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I had to go into my compaq numerous times and full reconnect the ribbon. Stupid HP.
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keelo Tech: that'd be a dirty connector hopefully
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: fully*
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: more likely broken
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: I just got it like a few days back...just switch on it and found it like that
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just got it as in it's a new laptop, or just got it from someone else or from a repair shop for a different issue?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: a new laptop
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: take it back
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: probably just a loose connection then, I'd check the ribbon
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: take it to the store, let them worry about it
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parmendies Tech: ok how do i check the ribbon...im a IT idiot
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's new, I wouldn't take it apart to touch the ribbon...it definitely shouldn't be coming loose that easily
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: tehn just take it back :P
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You kept the reciept, i hope?
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and next time buy samsung :P
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: iBuyPower ftw
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't if i can take a laptop brand sersiouly that has paladin and mage models :P
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm running a paladin :P
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh not even...
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can build desktops for cheaper and most likely last longer
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Mine is a Desktop, i got it a year ago for like 940, it wasn't too bad really.
T3/r7/2012-12-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh yay... got to add a level lock somewhere in my mapper...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Anyone know how to keep the command field from clearing in mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Game-Configure-Commands, click "keep commands on prompt line"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: anyone know what changed with the new verion of the aardmuchclient? i cant find the notes on it....
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you read announce at all?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Latest note from Lasher, Cody.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: its on board 1
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: in-game? no i didnt. thankyou.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: seen on facebook wasall. thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i see what version i have? isnt there something i can type into command prompt that shows me?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: anyone using a trigger that colors their hp
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Kind of..
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I have it moved to a different prompt with my own color scheme.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: this stuff is so hard to grasp when you're stoned... it's like doing math 
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: and i consider myself intelligent lol
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I do most of my best programming stoned tyvm.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: it's just because im unfamiliar with it
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: but not a conversation we should have on a public channel.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: word lol
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how do i turn automatic updates off on win 8 pro?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+turn+automatic+updates+off+on+win+8+pro%3F
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elxi chuckles at Mokg's joke.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: what does 32 operating system and 64 based processor mean?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: pretty much nothing else than you cant take full capability to use. Do not worry, most of the programs are still 32. in fact, some were just announced to be kept at that due the fact that they cannot take full usage of 64 to use. so it's still work in progress..... (firefox)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Er, what
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'd be hard pressed to find even a single 32-bit program on my box. Some older games, maybe. NOT firefox.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: (not that it matters :-D)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ofcourse you dont know about it because firefox quietly disbanded it
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The difference is mostly in the extra registers you can use on x86_64. It has twice as many, leading to less pressure on the register allocation mechanism in compilers, and faster code.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I don't know about what?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Do you doubt that my Firefox is 64-bit? :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: firefox
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ofcourse note, because it's only 2 weeks old news. you just said that you have old games and stuff :)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: note:not
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sorry to disappoint you, buddy, but right now, I have a 64-bit Firefox open.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I just said, they stopped developing it. and only 32 is coming
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: So what is 2 weeks old news? That Mozilla Corporation is abandoning my 64-bit firefox and reverting back to 32-bit? Hmmmm! That's very interesting. Care to point to a source? Article?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: google it
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Oh, Googling helped.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: dont' bother
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: right
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just need to make tabs there each 32 bit process i would assume...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: too much problems, I wish I could get 64 but guess some things never will happen :)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's really not much need for true 64 bit apps unless you deal with large files...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can deal with large files on 32-bit OS, actually.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: true
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: 32-bit OSes have supported 64-bit integer arithmetics for ages now.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Also, I'm glad to see that my OS didn't get cut out of the progress :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well then scratch what i just said :P
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i use firefox
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: there really isn't much difference , for now, between those systems.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: As I already pointed out (only too happy to recap on this important point), 64-bit has twice the registers. And registers is THE fastest form of memory a computer can have.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's just faster at rendering than IE
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: notcing a big diff on my old slow comp
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: On the other hand, pointer-happy code gets larger, which leads to more cache pressure )=
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I guess it comes out more or less even, on average...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Firefox is hopelessly slow compared to chrome, tho
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: Really?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: until they figure how to use the programs for speed...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: I prefer Fox over everything.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i don't like chrome, something about google irks me
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: and internet explorer 10?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The problem with Google Chrome is that it's run by Google... and I trust Google way too much already.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: chrome runs way better for me 
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Num Tech: To each his own.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I use chrome, and on sites that gets f'd I use explorer...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: Firefox is a memory hole laggy piece of shift
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra is waiting for someone to plug Opera...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: opera sux
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I have opera cizra...still using chrome :)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: first thing i did on the last imac i used was put firefox on it
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I find Firefox's tab groups amazing. Does any other browser have that?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: ya chrome does 
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmmm! It turns out that there is no Win64 Chrome?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: memory hog? not much of a worry if you're running ddr3
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: The 32-bit build runs fine
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: yup. same as firefox
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Why would ddr3 make memory leaks less of a problem?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: or are you talking about nightly builds and old school stuff :D
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause the shite be so cheap! :P
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: no more nightly 64-bit builds either
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: that's like saying hey one gr is a cheating witch and the other isn't but that's only a problem if u don't watch them every waking minute lol
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well if it maxxes out my 8gb's, i'll let ya know
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Heh, 8gb
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I've had a program eat 19.4 gigabytes of RAM.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i hope that was on purpose :P
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: so why do people use Firefox?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause it's not ms or google
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Tab groups, smartcard auth support, nice plugins (Flashblock, Adblock, Stylish, etc)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: + what Santher said :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: so only because its not google since cbrome has all those things lol
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or apple :P
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher rapidly nods twice at Hellion, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: All which things? Webpage stylesheet override, for example?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I'm using Firefox because I don't know of alternatives. If you can tell me, I'm all ears. How do you do smartcard auth with Chrome?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: chrome I could google it but I can tell u anything Firefox does I'm sure chrome does 
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Yes. The smartcard one is the only one it might not have, if that's hardware vendor spplied. I have no idea. It's quickly getting popular though, and more likely to see that kind of thing. 
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Riddim 2 cents
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Hmpf. "I can tell u" sounds like "I have no clue, but it's my favorite, therefore it must be good"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: well ill bet u gold lol
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I use firefox and chrome, because some plugins I use on FF are not available on chrome.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: its like bettin on Jordan and against the other guy ... simply because its Jordan
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But it's been a while since I checed, they probably are now.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: but in the end we r all guilty of choosing preference over specs or whatever the pro and con comparisson can say
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: I am so saddened. The town my one aunt lives in has people constantly selling their PC's for a shitton of money, saying 'A GT 240 can run most games released today!' or something related...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Saw someone try to sell a PC which would be considered standard in 2005 with a CRT monitor for about *6 its price
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Which is entirely true, taking "today" to mean "up to today". There's a gazillion DOS games, for instance, that should run just fine :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Am I a bad person for wanting to PM these people and lecture them about the fact that they are practically stealing?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i was looking at the GT 650 myself...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: About 4 days ago I got myself the GTX 660 Ti
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and was wondering if that was good enough
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: GT 560 Ti > GT 650
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i could do sli though
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sammael, some people (not me) say that stupid people deserve to be relieved of their money.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i don't have an i7... don't need the best card...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Cizra: Maybe not stupid, just so technologically handicapped that they shouldn't touch a PC. Ever.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: i5 is all you will need for the next few years tbh
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Technological handicap in any world post 1975 is stupidity.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: Good point
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well my cpu rates the same on wei as a 2,5 ghz i5 :P
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Excuse me, sirs and madams. Have you ever seen a processor that can run Dwarf Fortress at full speed?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: I feel sad for those people though. 'New PC! Let's go buy AC3!' *gets home, pc refuses to run the game* This must be the store that sold me the game's fault!
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I had the good fortune to buy an i5 which was apparently a binned i7, overclocked it to 5ghz, using a Noctua aftermarket cooler and it hits 37C at full load.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, you really gotta know your vid cards when buying one (or in a pc)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Sounds cool (pun intended)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Anyway, is there a "best" CPU for Dwarf Fortress?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Valkyrie Sammael Tech: When I just read 'overclocked it to 5ghz' I was like 'OH GOD NO' but then you mentioned the cooler and I was like 'Sweet'
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Their Wiki page says that memory BW is the bottleneck, not CPU, but ....
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so easy to get burned on a bunk card with lots of memory on it
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Downside of course is the Noctua cooler takes up the majority of my case :-P 1.2 kg of heatsinky goodness
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: usually games will "run" but will be unplayable
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone interested in a new pc should take a squiz at www.reddit.com/r/buildapc - even if you do pay someone else to build it, you can at least get an idea of what is good and what isn't. Be prepared for a lot of reading, however, and never accept 'this part is good' without a justification.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i spend hours reading about parts before i buy anything these days
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you learn after spending thousands on computer parts that end up in the trash
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: How fast does a computer have to be to make up an hour of reading time on reduced calculation time?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Theres alsooootech theres also http://tinyurl.com/falconguide which is worth a look.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or spoending 150 on a pentium 4...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: a sempron is just as good
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You don't read up to get the .001% speed increase, you read up to avoid program x incompatibility, or size in the case mishaps, or the ever hilarious "oshit I bought the wrong mobo socket"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods, i just want stuff to work for as cheap as i can, overclocking is not my goal
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: though i managed to oc this e7600 i have to 3.33
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and it runs at like 32
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i didn't buy the cpu, it came out of a smashed up imac :)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the i3 is cheaper and better than an E series cpu
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: er, wait, not
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: can i make buttons to press instead of typing commonly used words
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: is there a web site or somthing that can help me
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: the mushclient forms
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: forums*
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: do you have the adress
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Cavelord, would F2 and other keyboard buttons be good enough?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: They're very very easy to do with MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: take a look at the macro function in your config, or google the acclerator function
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: how do i search mapper by room id number?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You can't
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If you have Winklebot's S&D, then you can do "runsql select * from room where uid = 100"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: or was that "rooms"?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless you jack into the sql
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: You can also just type "mapper goto 111"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: What do you mean by "Search" anyway?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or mapper find for roomname
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Clarification time: Cody, what exactly do you want to achieve?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: 'mapper goto 111" works, i was kinda wanting to just be able to "xrt 111" insted of "mapper goto 111"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just aliases for mapper goto
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: you can make your own 'short' alias in mushclient easily enough
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err i jsut make
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahh, ya thats what ill have to do then i suppose...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you shouldn't need to remember that many numbers
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: im tryn to make my mush work better with a database of mobs and thier room ids
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mapper shoulr really come premade with mf, ma, mg, mce, etc cexits
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: .r cexits aliases
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I would avoid doing that using mapper or snd - it VERY quickly outgrows them
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: how so?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i would probably go by roomname
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Scope creep :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's a lot of uid's :P
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: yes, i could use the roomnames associated with the mobs names, but for accuracy, i wanted to use room number, mapper thinks alot less then, but meh, ill figure it out im sure.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well some mobs wander too
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: etc etc
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: hahaha
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: About the author of Pascal programming language:
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: "Whereas Europeans generally pronounce his name the right way ('Nick-louse Veert'), Americans invariably mangle it into 'Nickel's Worth.' This is to say that Europeans call him by name, but Americans call him by value." â Introduction by Adriaan van Wijngaarden at the IFIP Congress (1965).
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: ("call by name" and "call by value" are programming language theory terms)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Any Russians on?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I need some data on Computer Science in Siberia. I've heard there is much, and top quality, but can't quite find a respectable source for that.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: In Soviet Russia, Computer Science does YOU! (Sorry, I had to do it!)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: question, why wouldn't my aliases, triggers, and timers be importing from my last version of mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: file->import did you use that?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: yerp
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Argetlam Tech: got it, was trying to import from the wrong version
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: and you import the aardfile from ..nvm
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: So I want to import my zmud alias' into mush. Is there a way to do that without using/making an xml file for it?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: I updated my MUSHclient and now the formatting to the righthand side of everything is screwed up - anything that should be lining up in a column on a list doesn't line up anymore, like if you identify an item, look at whois, or look at a list of spells.  Anyone know how to fix this?  It's not a big deal, just ugly is all.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you somehow had your font changed to a variable-width fonttype.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: okay!  thank you Hans
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Does anyone know what to do about Got a bad item, rerequesting inventory data for Inventory, maybe relating to bast's plugins, although I tried disabling those.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: it is mine, it just means invdata was interrupted, it fixes itself, just an info message
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: But I can't browse my inventory anymore now :)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what do you mean browse?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happens when you type "i"?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I mean every line that normally shows an inventory line, now shows that line.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: "plugins reload eqdb"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I tried that, the process worked, but it didn't resolve the problem. I'll try it with all plugins back on too.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Hmm, didn't seem to work, I'm running latest download, and latest bast, but I'm quite nooby at installing :)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: It worked yesterday btw, suddenly stopped working without touching any plugin.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: what if you restart the client?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I'll try
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Nope, still multiple lines of got a bad item.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, in his inventory, nothing has strange characters, although some have xterm colors...equipped, there's bear goggles, amazon earrings & vine of nightshade, nothing uncommon enough that it wouldn't have been noticed before now
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: thought maybe some symbol might've been un-escaped
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: aduin where are you so I can check your inventory?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I'm 1 up from amulet
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Yes I did at first, that's when I had the problem first time, disabled it, problem went away, now it seems to be stuck
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "plugins unload miniwin_eq" and then "plugins unload eqdb"
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Hmm.  I just updated to the new client and followed all the updating procedures, but none of my mapping info came over..  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: new Mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the map database file must be named the same as your world
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: will double check.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it ships with world "Aardwolf" and database "Aardwolf.db" (dunno if case matters)
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'd guess no, file names in windows generally aren't
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's at the OS level, the application layer isn't guaranteed to follow that principle.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mea Culpable Tech: Got it.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was it the name?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinji Ikari Tech: is there some reason why my aardwolf_bookmarks.db file keeps getting erased?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: it's not used anymore, i don't think
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shinji Ikari Tech: hrmm, I recently updated and it said to copy over the old db if I wanted, but it keeps zeroing out the data in it.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: anyone had this problem before?  I've a working network, in that all elements can access the internet and see all other elements in said network, but the router page for the gateway doesn't load.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: How are you trying to access the gateway page?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: via the IP address.  192.168.1.1.  IE says webpage can't load, Chrome says no data sent.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is like SkyNet's cutting me out.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And you're sure your router is at 192.168.1.1 and not 192.168.0.1?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: would Windows still report 1.1 if it wasn't?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Shouldn't.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: are you using https instead of http?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: interesting, it changed...
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That can happen if you reset the gateway.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: well, all's good now
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: turned out my router needed a restart.  Weird.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: overflow your dhcp pool?
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no idea, but everything else was working.
T3/r7/2012-12-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: routers are computers too...a good reboot comes in handy every now & then :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: just turned on
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nanak: if you're using the aard mushclient package, I suggest going to Fiendish's site, clicking the wiki, included plugins, featured plugins, to the tips section where there's a link to Hosch's mapper tips page
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he covers doing a really good portal function in it
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: ok tyvm abe
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nanak Tech: i did it! thanks abe!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You cheer Nanak on and wish him good luck!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: is there a command to check for updates to the client/plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: (in mushclient)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It automatically does so every time you restart the client
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: package update check
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: guess i need to upgrade for that command, heh :P
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: sadly i dont think they have fixed the but i'm seeing occasionally
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: bug*
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: package update check was added in r1335
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what bug?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you report the bug?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: the one where pretty rarely, you will not see anything in the main window except command echos
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i use r1557 and it does nuthin for me
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: morill: that's not a bug in the aard client
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: oh wait, no, that's something else...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: i was under the impression it was a bug in one of the plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not in an included plugin, no
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's an issue with another plugin you've added
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's common with winkle's S&D
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Another reason people shouldn't bot. ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: help botting
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rolls his eyes, disgusted.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it also happens if you try to add "all of bast" at once
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: weird.  i dont have many plugins beyond the core ones.  
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't take "many"...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "many" is other than the preincluded ones.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of them is gagging output because it hasn't seen the "end of what I'm looking for" signal
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the frequency of that happening also goes up if your prompt doesn't end in %c
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: let me see.  bast_hunt, miniwin_gq,cp,quest
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "p data" to double-check
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: my regular prompt ends in %c, yes
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and battle?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Does your battle prompt?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: yeah battle does too
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: you mentioned winkle. does that include winklewinklespellup?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: thats the only remaining non-stock plugin i have
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: like i said its pretty rare its just annoying and i was hoping it was fixed in a patch
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd have to be a patch in the offending plugin, not aardmush
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Only thing you can really do is enable extra plugins one at a time until you get the "bug" you speak of. It'd actually be better only one each time, in fact.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Once you find the offending plugin, petition the author to correct it.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: or correct it yourself.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: lots of plugins have been known to do it
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: i might do that once i level up enough to get back to the one room where i was able to reproduce it pretty reliably
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what room is that?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: the room with the 4 aggro fish in that the mine.  i forget the area name but its next to the gathering horde
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Living Mines of Dak'tai?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, don't recall any fish in livingmine
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Neither can I. Are you referring to the start of the area, Morill?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: i'm in the room with them now :P
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No fish there, but several aggro mobs.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: the one where you dive into the water
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: (RW) (Angry) A cave snapper is trying to KILL YOU!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli looks at The Reaper Myrkul ponderingly.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: a cave snapper is a fish :p
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: amphibian, actually :P
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: something about the descriptoin of that room or something makes it go berserk and its probably the spellup plugin now that i think about it because i think i used to not have the problem before i installed it
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird, nothing seems unusual about the room, recon is clean, no special characters in the room, no EQ from the snappers
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and spellups work fine, it's not nomagic or anything...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h 12
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you do anything to make it start gagging everything?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, oops
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: i suspect the message you get when you enter the room 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: it wasnt anything i did i just typed 'swim up' or whatever the exit is and it would happen every time
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's a line of dashes...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Like a note ending?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shorter
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Hmm
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: 60 chars
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: and notes are tildes
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ------------------------------------------------------------, then The currents sweep you away., then another line
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Meant help file
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: maybe it confuses that with a spell wearing off message or something weird
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It could affect if, it it's a regex that doesn't specify 79 chars.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I think there's a 'note' plugin circulating, that's why i ask.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still less than that, but a help capture would have been a thought (although helps have tags, so it'd be weird to use the lines)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's no trigger in winkle's spellup that matches on a line of dashes though
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: the spells/skills commands use lines of dashes...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: a variable number of them too, depending on the length of your longest spell name, so you couldn't make an exact pattern for it...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: why only that room, then?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: well, it might happen in other places with random lines of dashes :P
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: ive seen it other places, but not consistently
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: it happened earlier today but i couldnt identify why or reproduce it
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: what plugins did you have loaded, besides the core aardmush ones?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: just miniwin_gq/miniwin_quest/miniwin_cp and bast_hunt
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That has to be it, then. It's getting a dashed line and looking for 1+2n to know when the 'spells' command has finished.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: and winklespellup
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: why does aardwolf keep turning itself back on after I have closed and disconnected the app itself..?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: keyboard stuck?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can quit, but you can never, ever leave... unless Lasher nukes you.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: some funky virus?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: im guessing.. mobile app =p
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh yeah those suck
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: no I close the app and 3 minutes later it is open and running in my taskbar again. it drains my baterry in 2 hours flat 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: what os?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: task scheduler?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if it's xp the os has probably gone haywire :P
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: Android 4.0 the first ever Android incredible.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: xp is mobile app compatible now Santher?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh... i was guessing
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: so aardwolf is not just an app?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: No, you're only using the mobile application for android to connect.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: android should have something better?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: The app itself isn't actually Aardwolf, just a way to connect to a primarily pc-based text game. The app is Blowtorch, and should behave similarly
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: well its awful! like wats better? in ur opinion
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: aardmush is far superior...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: This is nothing to do with Aardwolf, it's either a blowtorch issue or an android issue
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: lol santher u are speaking gibberish..
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: And I'm leaning towards android issue. Have you noticed any other applications starting on their own?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: He really is, don't worry.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Er she
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no... www.aardwolf.org... but that's not what you want for a phone
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's for the primarily pc crowd
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: lol true true. however no it is not the phone, tis b the app it auto starts itself, via unchangeable setting, might just hav to go on pc huh?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Blowtorch seems to have a 4.0 issue, requiring force close - try updating the os itself?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (from a quick google)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: "no it is not the phone" .. uh. how are you so sure of this? discounting such things is rather narrow minded
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: haha yea... not tht simple. long story short I've had my phone for 4 years and it has not updated once even when I check for ones. it has been dropped in a pool. a shower. thrown etc. its got problems. getting a new phone soon hopefully. how about droid razor m?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mannec Tech: off
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're looking android, I'd strongly suggest checking out the Nexus 4
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I'd recommend anything with a real keyboard, preferably 5 row
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: I'm looking cheap Christmas discount! razor it is lol
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: dvorak ftw!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug. Nexus 4 is only $299 off contract.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: they make those for phone?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: D: woah man! that's a boat load of mooolah of hav to cough up
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depending on your area of residence, $299 off contract, $30/mo unlimited data/text (throttled after 5gb to lower speed, but 5gb is still a bit to even be toooo worried about that) and 100minutes..
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Shrug $299 for a top tier phone is not a terrible price even on contract.... and when you dont have to sign one, its actually pretty good
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: Verizon has me under a life stealing contract, i swear I might hav signed away my first born child in that contract o.O 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: for that much you can get a pc...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Flytr..... Are you under the grandfathered unlimited data?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: I'm ver happy with my droid3 and the droid4 look nice too. Again, 5 row physical keyboard is the way to go for mobile mudding.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: And wow I can't type tonight.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and for texting, touch screen blows for texting
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: yesssssssss it suckssssss but impossible to fix... yea well elxi I just got into this haha ima  noob 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Matter of opinion, Santher
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: swype is great for texting
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well at least texting on an iphone...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyhoo Flaytr.. if you're with VZW, in a grandfathered unlimited data plan - if you sign a new contract to get a subsidized phone, you'll lose your unlimited plan.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: santher u just gotta get better at it! I can text while walking with my eyes closed and there is a huge gaping crack down the top.half of the screen.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't even have a cell phone...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Budgates Tech: i dont have one eaither
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: if i didnt need to get ahold of "mary" so much i wouldnt have one either
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: yea its tough today... what? santher. how? lol 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i'm old school and don't like em much
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher warbles happy "trololo" while look for someone to CANE!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: fyi, 2gb a month is plenty for my mobile mudding needs. I even tether a good bit to my netbook.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: no.offense but how old are you guys/gals
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just turned 35
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: 25
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: mobile mudding is terrible
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: even with blowtorch
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: It's not that bad, when you get used to it.  Just like old telnet days
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: keyboard is the worst part
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: beww
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: ahh I'm a junior in high school lol.... 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: thats what mudding is, is the keyboard, it's no fun if that's the worst part
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I still have all my desktop scripts when I mobile MUD ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: bc it is the "part"
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: I do hav a question for yall though... >.>
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Sorry Quelz, you just don't know what you're talking about. Blowtorch is merely a bandaid. Tether your phone to a computer and you can use any client you want. Ssh from your phone to your pc and you can use any console client you want. Mobile mudding is fine, and most likely the future.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: there are people here from 11-60, that I know of. Probably even younger and older.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i started aard on a 386 dos machine
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not even copy/paste :P
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: must be some little tots on then
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, my mobile client does copypasta
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: i dont get what youre saying Elxi
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Agree to disagree.  My only problem is having to switch from letters to numbers and special characters, finding that annoying.  A few mud-side aliases takes care of the rest
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: nah I was just wondering if this is like a job or just sparing your time to help out, or wat for u guys? 0.0
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: why 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah we had printouts for sw's to level... then i found out about wolfens :)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: are you guys talking about mud clients on phones?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: ys and no
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: to.me? lol
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: runto is so much easier for new players
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: "sigh" yes and no krispin
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my mobile client also gives me letters, numbers and symbols all at once, no switching :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: ohh haha was gonna say you guys probaly are not fans of apple but i got a sweet client on my iphone
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: issh rules on idevices
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Flytr ( u should answer my question guys 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: i use mud master and have no problems at all
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well i will say that ios > osx
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mm2k?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: mudmaster on my iphone
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, OSX gives the best of everything
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: really? sooooooo I guess I'm being ignored lol... ps3 time I guess
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NetBSD core for unix power, OSX simplicity and elegance, and Windows if you feel like it/need the dark side
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: whats the problem flytr
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask a real question to not be ignored
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i find win 7 easier to use
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody is paid to be on aard
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: I use pocket mud pro on iphone.  It works pretty well, as in it lets me connect, lets me play with few issues once I got used to the keyboard issues
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: i honestly love windows 7
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: how?! lol
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: windows 7 makes me want to vomit lol
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: best thing since xp
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: hardly
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no confusing finder bar for 1...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: buuut im a windows guy
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: W7 is bad for network people
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: yes that is true
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: one of the main reason i still use the droid line of phones....real keyboard
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: I was legitimately confused about tht! so um yea ima jam on ps3 anyone gonna join me?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: why is that abe?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elxi enthusiastically high-fives Dreckis!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: that is why companys still use xp in my province
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: so iphone users you can now safely upgrade to ios 6 - google maps app for iphone is now available :)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: what u playing on ps3?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i don't like xp anymore :P
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: main reason is that it tries to identify the network before giving access to anything network related
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but yeah it still works with enough backup security
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: eh black ops cuz I'm bored u got a psn name?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 7 just seems to work... like timex
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: trix57  im not on much  and no i do not have black ops sorry bud
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: except when it doesn't
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i haven't had an issue since i got it a month after it's release
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: me either
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when it only works if it feels like it, you don't know if the network isn't responding or if it's just not happy with that network
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: >.> "bud" ugh... dragons dogma? 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plug into a few hundred networks
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: on 5 diff pcs
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I'm not talking about hotspots
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: i heard dragons dogma is good kinda like monster hunter add me maybe ill get it
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: major companies use windows 7 just fine
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: ok guys i just got back into this game i must continue haha
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, for normal home/workstations it's quite fine
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: yea tht game is actually one of the best RPGs I've played, even skyrim could take some pointers... aight I'm out to guys!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just not good for network engineers
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: peace out 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: pce
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: We use a mix of xp and 7, for the city, and I wouldn't say we use it just fine...Tons of wireless issues in the ambulances, but that's as much a fault of the modem as anything else
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: riot gaming uses win 7 on their computers and its a billion dollar gaming company
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc they even fixed that idiodic way it handles pinning to take up half your taskbar (I'd already hacked around that issue with a folder)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flytr Tech: I'm assuming u guys are on here often lol "I shall be back!"
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how much money a company makes has zero bearing on the types of uses for computers
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: they have over a hundred computers networked
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: For any type of networking or programming or what I consider "real" work, linux or unix is way more productive
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, a hundred
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think at one point I might've had 100 in my house..
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's almost 1/5th as many as my local library
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead smirks at your saying. 
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: okay, thats an exaggeration, but, still =p
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: wouldnt know exactly how many so I'm not saying an exact number
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if you're too stupid to use windows 7 you shouldn't be in the tech field
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and again, how many/how big doesn't have anything to do with the way they're used
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I am smart enough to now use windows.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: not*
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mokg: it has nothing to do with knowledge of using W7...W7 has some features which are fully broken for certain computer usages
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which "just work" when using "dumber" OSes
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: much like Excel pisses me the hell off when I want to make a chart of port numbers 1/10, 1/11, 1/12 and it decides that I mean Jan 10, Jan 11, Jan 12 :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: wish I could be as hipster as you guys
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: You think *nix is hipster?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: brb going to starbucks on my laptop with linux installed making sure to sit in a position where everyone can see
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, you do that
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: jk starbucks too mainstream
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Starbucks is too main stream for hipsters
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: doh. Darn buffer lag =p
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: panera bread was the original hotspot
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Another huge advantage of using linux instead of windows at work. When your neighbor/relative etc asks you to help with your computer, you can tell them that you don't work with windows. They'll get confused, because they don't understand how you can work with computers and not use windows, but you might get away without doing PC support for them...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: lol anrr
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of course I deployed W7 to a couple hundred machines a few months ago, after we came up with an image that worked with our time and print management software...the hardware-agnostic prepping of images is a nice feature (which other OSes had enjoyed for decades)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there are also issues with W7 and group policy
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Ranrr: that's not an advantage. That's being too weak willed to charge, or tell them no.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: damn daloran with the burns
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher charges.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: for sexy time...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher is looking at Quelz and panting lustily... What the hell does she see in a 400lb, 50-year old trucker from Duluth, named Bubba, that's all that sexy?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: JIMBOB!
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: PrintKey2000 from 1999 still works fine on 64bit W7, too :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Anyone good with hardware able to tell me if the Acer C7 is as good of a deal as it seems at $199? (I'd be installing ubuntu so igonre the chromeos part)
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: in a mushclient alias sent to world, can you still use \\\ to execute script commands?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i do it the other way around and use the send function...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: cool thanks, was just wondering though - since this alias has loads of send to lines, and just 1 script line to set a variable
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well you can include a script...
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like winkle does
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: I am running AUTOMATIC MAPPER by Fiendish ver 2.0. is there an undocumented way to force the mapper to recalculate a path. the command mapper goto (room #) appears to use the wrong portal.?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Fix your portal. The paths are calculated the moment you enter the command mapper goto.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: They are not pre-calculated in any way.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: mapper goto 510   --- returns "port2 727650867 (killing fields)(semicolin) run u8es4e" which is an error in the choice of partals?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: mapper appears to choose the wrong portal
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sweet 16 Domain Tech: check your portal names and aliases
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: that is why i use invdata (727650867), that is the killing fields portal
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: And which portal would you like it to use instead?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Maybe there's a level-locked exit somewhere in between your desired one and the target?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: do you have the level set correctly on the portal?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type 'mapper portals' and check to make sure
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: it does not appear to be a level lock I can use the portal, it's just not the right portal mapper selects
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: anyone got a minute to help with mapper portals?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: The mapper help has a nice helpfile.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: There is the wiki too.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i used it, and that's what i can't figure out
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: just ask the question. If anyone has time and knows the answer he's answer
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i did mapper portal <alias> like it states in mapper help portals
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: then to check it i did mapper portals
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: there are no portals listed, and if i xrt <area> it still runs there instead of using the portal
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: xrt is from the winkle winkle plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: too old mapper? or no double semicolons
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: not from the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: but shoudln't it still be listed in mapper portals after i mapper portal <alias>
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: did you try mapper goto roomid
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gnarcyon looks at Zubol and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what was the entire mapper portals commadn you used?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check your version of mushclient, it works in 1667
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zubol Tech: they just released a new version of mushclient, the releasenotes stae thet a bug in mapper plugin related to portals is fixed in it
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gnarcyon looks at Zubol and goes "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: k i'll try updating
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: way to get the chat stuff to only show up in the communication log, not in me main window. i'm using MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: rightclick comm window. Look for echo
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: sweet! thank you. I get distracted easy lol.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the portal mapper bug was only in from september 24 to october 1, so to be affected by that one you would've had to download from fiendish r1692-r1698, btw
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I really thought I had done a quest in dortmund already, added: 'mapper cexit enter latrine', is there some way to check if that exit is now in the db twice?
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Abandonhope Tech: mapper cexits here
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Ah thanks, and sorry it's actually in the help file.
T3/r7/2012-12-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know of a mud client I can run as a web ui daemon on ubuntu w/o gui?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone used kmuddy before?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. Kmuddy seems to have died, but Mudlet is similar - anyone active on that client?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh: by web ui, are you referring to a particular product or just to a web-accessible GUI served by a headless box?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: so, i have a wireless modem that sends internet to all my devices, i would love to figure out how to dedicate a percentage of the bandwith to each device, so that the devices in the living room lag less than the rest ofthe house...
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: You need a wireless router that has QOS settings
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: so check for QOS settings and report back. k
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: yes, there is QOS settins upstream and downstream
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: so what you need to do is know the max bandwidth you have, then work out how much to limit the up / downstream, prolly do it for IP data
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: but also add in additional rules so lan -> lan data is limited. Just bare in mind that this will always limit these devices so if only 1 pc wants to get access, it won't get full bandwidth.
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: sorry Lan -> Wan data is limited but Lan -> Lan data isn't
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oh i see, i never looked at this part of my modems settings...
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: but depends on what you mean by 'Lag'
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Bandwidth limiting may not help there...
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: my connection can only handle so much, i have low bandwith, only 1.5meg up/down
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: What, specifically do you mean by lag
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i want to figure out how much of that is needed for streaming on netflix, and set the netflix device to get that much. i dont care if any of the other computers dont run fast enough.
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: when 2 or more computers stream video, but have to pause and buffer alot...
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i want to reduce the pausing and buffering of th video.
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Right, kewl. That's not technically lag, that's speed problems but Meh, so long as you have it fixed.
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: this will help with that right? the QOS settings?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Well yes, it will dedicate bandwidth / speed to the netflix device.
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: awesome, im gunna mess with differant amounts and see what works best. thanks for showing me the QOS settings part.
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: <-- did nothing more than give you the term you were looking for (-8
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: good luck
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: how do you ensure that a line of text you are trying to capture, MUST be on a new line, in mush? 
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: regex ^$
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: wasn't sure if it was the same as it is in cmud/zmud or not... :) 
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: hrmm since downloading new mushclient and installing new bastmush im gettin nothing on my output except scan, havnt tried combat yet but look isnt showing cp info isnt showing any bid commands are not showing any suggestions ?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you load every plugin in the bastmush directory?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: i moved entire folder over 
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: i did not add every plugin though 
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, that's a start, don't add every plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: first type "plugins reload Broadcast all"
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: has anyone heard of the DNS server virus?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it blocks my internet browser so i can't find stuff half the time, and it replaced a system file and made it a virus
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: thats done everything showed in one color cept spellskills which i remember not loading I think 
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did it fix your output window?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: nope everything still not working
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: ok, type "plugins" and then paste the output to pastebin.com and tell me the url
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: http://pastebin.com/V6ky4Yv9
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: karkaroth: did you get my tell?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karkaroth Tech: ok im going to redo my client from scratch and just add and check each plugin till i figure it out 
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: i jut took a quest the game reset then it cancelled my quest nnow i havt wait 20min ?
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: since quest reset time expired already, yes
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: log back in QUICK after a crash, we get 3 minutes of quest reset/
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: i never got to finish the original quest with i took 5 min ago
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cera Tech: i got 3 quests.. the really quick people can get 4.
T3/r7/2012-12-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: when we have a crash like this, everything goes back to the last savestate, which happens automatically in like 15-minute intervals.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: What are some common SOFTWARE issues that can cause a BSOD?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: is there a simple "set this room as noportal" command, without having to do it the long way?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: also, old drivers
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: with mush, theres an option.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You get pretty much free access to the sql db with mapper, can just alias an update statement?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: of course, but if there's already a function, might as well use that
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ah, "echo Magic walls bounce you back." does it
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: yay for trigger :D
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Has anyone figured out why my inventory using bast's eqDB plugin generated 'Got a bad item' for every inventory item?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: Becuase it's buggy.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Perhaps I could just empty the table for equipment from aardwolf.db , only I have no idea how to do that :)
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Aduin, the best sqlite program I have found is a firefox addon called SQLite Manager
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Thanks I'll check it out.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Strange, still have the error with a fresh eq table, so it must be some sort of parsing error. Anyone got a suggestion what it might be? (bast's eqdb plugin)
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: ditch the plugin and make your own
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I suppose I could try capturing all mxp output and putting it in a db, I could use iwuvaard's table layout they prolly thought of most stuff to record.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: But there's a problem. I'm so lazy :)
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Would anyone like the trigger information to fix up Timetweaker's username in gossip using mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: assuming chanflags, trigger is {chan ch=gossip}* gossips '*'
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Scurv - you are a Knight ! 
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: fixedname = string.gsub(string.lower("%1"), "^%l", string.upper)
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Parham Tech: Hi. I have read a message on a forum that there are efforts to make the Aardwolf adaptation of MushClient accessible to screen readers through appropriate plugins and some small changes in default settings. Is there a way to follow up with the progress?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: is there graphics drivers for intel celeron 346 cpu 3.06ghz socket 77lga?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: er 775 LGA
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: IIRC old Celerond don't have GPU built in
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can check on ark.intel.com specific model to be sure
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scars Tech: how do i unlock the layout of mush again?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i'm making aliases in MUSH and I'm using item IDs which are really long numbers.  is there a way to leave a comment just after that with something that I can understand when looking at the code?  something that wont be sent to the mud?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: like the lines says..  get 9837492874278 aardbag 'lev 100 axe
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Use a variable, call it with ariablename
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well, duh.  thank you.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And make the variable self-commenting with a descriptive name
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: @variablename, whoops
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yeah, i use variables.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: just wasnt thinking i guess.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: but at the same time, is there a way to leave a comment?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not that I have found
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: ok, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could use send to script and comment that
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Unless you send to script, of course
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Giant Kraken Tech: any idea why the stat monitor's not working since i updated my mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i gave up on using @variable
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: well the variable would work for weapons, but kinda impratical for geneal EQ switches.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: abe, whats the syntax for the comment?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really...100head, 100eyes, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: --
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use "..(GetVariable("variable"))" instead
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thats a shit ton of vaiables...
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use variables for EVERYTHING, so whenever I upgrade it's just a case of adjusting variables, aliases get left alone
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, or wait a week and use bast's new eqset plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: need to figure how to script it in a text file, then copy and paste the hell out of it  heh
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You must have said something interesting, Siren Cera just perked up.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: do what?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cera: that's what plugins are
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i know.. but I've only made very simple ones.  I'm no coder.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to be a coder
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make one variable...in the variable list, select it & hit copy
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open text editor, paste
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: paste that a bunch of times, change eq slot name for each, change itemnum for each
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh cool.
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone have a good resource for testing the speed of a wireless lan?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FoxMulder Tech: just ping your router or another computer
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: speed or latency?
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess never mind. 
T3/r7/2012-12-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: should a new PC buyer get win 7 or win8
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i always had 7
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 7
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: thanks.  how much memory:  4mb or 8mb?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 8 if you can afford it
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: SCSI HD or IDE?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: SATA III :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: firewire
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, sata in today's world
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: scsi and ide lmfao wtf. is this 1990?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: usb 3.0 > firewire > usb 2.0
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if you want speed get a SSD for your programs/OS. keep your music/porn/tv on a separate drive
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what's the trade off for SSD speed?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Cost
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: small size
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: like, how small?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: none
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wait, OCZ actually has real technology?  I thought they were a fraud.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: depends on how much you pay... I bought a 128 gig one for 60 dollars
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the trade is $/size
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not about small - can get 2TB ssd if you really want. But instead of xx cents per gb, think mebbe 10x that
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but imo it's very much worth it if you don't want more than a few hundred GB
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but what does HD really bottleneck anyway?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ever open a program? That.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: opening programs, any load screens
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Also, boot times
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: wait, that's not RAM?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: opening programs. loading files. booting. installing.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: RAM has to be filled - RAM is filled by grabbing from drives
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RAM runs the program...gotta read it off drive first
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: installing would usually be faster on HD than SSD, other things would be faster
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: windows boots in about ~7 seconds for me, compared to a minute or two on the computers at work
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what about outlook syncing across 3 imap and 3 POP accounts each with a ~4GB .pst file?  I'm noticing a slowdown lately.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Best speed is if you separate OS from ALL other things - I would even consider a 10ish gb sata 3 for OS and only OS, a more chunky one for programs if your budget allows, then your big chunky 7600 HDD 2-4TB storage drives
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i want one!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Processing pst files over 2gb generates exponential slowdown due to processor load - read a bit on www.reddit.com/r/programming on that the other day
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I just want raw speed, have very little use for storage, unlikely to ever hit 100 GB on a local machine
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd recommend separating your pst archives by year to make them a more manageable size
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: get an SSD, an i5 or i7, 8 gigs of ram and you'll be golden
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so vak u think my issues ir more processor oriented?  (and .pst size)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: If you absolutely MUST have ginormous pst sizes, you want an i7 for hyperthreading, get an unlocked one and a bigass cooler.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: But far cheaper to just archive
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: whats pst?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Outlook mail repository
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: "Please Send Tell"
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: outlook personal mail
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: tech channel
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: sorry, wrong context :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: so your talking about server type stuff?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: What about his talking about server type stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's talking about his email
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: No. PST files are used by Outlook for local folder.  Personal STorage, I believe. could be wrong.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he uses microsoft office outlook to read email...office's outlook program stores the mail in a database file called a PST
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: intresting
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: who makes the best SSD drives
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: IBM, from what I can tell. Friggin expensive, though
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are they hard to install?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs Re, SSDs 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Avoid OCZ, and check your throughputs and benchmark reviews before buying
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why avoid ocz
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can't tell the difference between an SSD and a hard drive, as far as install goes
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: corsair, ocz, samsung, ibm all good. and ocz is fine
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lowball tech with higher fail rates on tested equipment
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you need to install a bracket in your 3.5 inch slot for it
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: which requires screwing in four screws....
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A lot of newer cases will have 2.5" slots inbuilt
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: are SSD drives loud?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so does installing a hard drive on many units
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no sound
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: SSD silent
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no moving parts
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SSD has nothing mechanical, no fans, no spinning stuff...nothing to make noise
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: when are SSCPUs slated to beta test?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Think usb flash drive, but optimised for internal installation/use
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no sound no heat no vibration
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://www.newegg.com/Internal-SSD/SubCategory/ID-636?Order=RATING
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, they can get hot :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, everything has heat
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if they heat up the case, won't they make the cpu and gpu fans spin harder?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all CPUs are SSCPUs
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: When I say they can get hot, compared to cpu/gpu, totally irrelevant
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SSD should make less heat than non-SSD, so not in a comparitive sense, no
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ah, makes sense
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so yes they make heat...but they're cooler than the alternative, so they'd make it easier on the other fans
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I really want a super quiet rig even under stress, but dont' want to gamble buying HW, because never really know if it's quiet until it's put together
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: you can basically gtee performance but not sound
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: theres quiet power supplies you can buy as well
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: so if anyone wants to make a killing, invent that market!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I've heard a bunch of stuff advertised as quiet which isn't really that quiet
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if I want 1.  speed, 2.  quiet on a box with 2 GPU's running 6 screens, any recommendations on where to buy instead of build?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I'd just lock the hardware in a sound proof closet or something, but I've got no space
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: not sure how quiet you can get with 2 graphics cards
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: generally the loudest part of a computer if they have any sort of power
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I've done that for clients...high quality shielded long-ass cables where the tower was in the next room
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the high pitched frequency of the noise is the worst
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: Trying out windows 8, aka, windows 7 for tablets. Meh.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: my school's going to put it on all of the student computers for some reason
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone want to help me for installing bast pluins?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone???
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What's to help? Go to the site, read, read, read, install what you want, fin?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only reason you would need someone to help is if you wanted to skip steps 2 through 4
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: sigh
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i dont understand what bast said btw
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: 100 mb is enough to play aard for a month?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: imo yes
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: ahh thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: my logs playing for the whole day are about 5mb...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: compression saves 90%
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 1 mb a day should be plenty
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: Saving   : 85.56%.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: I was a custom machinist in past for honeywell worked with steel though.  Im curious if I got aluminium anglewire  in 1/8th thichness and if i made a folding vise to fold 1/4 inch down the length would the metal crack with the bend ?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how do i let my last hour status apper on my channel?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: wut?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on what plugin you're using
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: bast
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: no need to rudeness
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his site's wiki will say
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MosiFoca Tech: try statmn help eb
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: rude?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: thanks abe mosi
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ooh, he's got a new combat tracker as well as the new eqsets
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: If a room in MUSHclient is marked noportal, but the mapper still tries to use portals in it, is there a simple way to fix this?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, change those portals in your mapper to not be recallportals
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: ah okay, thank you Abe
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: how can I check to see which version of bast's plugin I'm using?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that flag on a portal says "this isn't really a portal, it's really a recall-type command"
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A Tempting Guinness Tech: I understand now, thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try bup check
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that worked thanks.   now.. how do you see what he's working on?  (like the eqsets?)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: his wiki, of course
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pretty much every question asked about aardmush or bast's stuff are answered on the wiki pages of their respective sites
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes, and when I go there and can't find it, I ask you.  :p
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you don't look very hard...click "bast's plugins". that's it.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you see one listed called "eqsets" that you've never heard of, then you know that he's working on one of those and can read its helpfile & stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: is bup check supposed to not give any output/
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: took several clicks before I even found the page with "bast's plugins" link on it.  There is nothing easy about getting information about bast's stuff.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the version check command, I clicked on "update_checker", where it says The command for this plugin is "bup", and where it says check           : check for an update for the Bastmush script package
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: morill: bup by itself, no
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: bup by itself gives teh standard help output but bup check gives nothing
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cera: I said the *WIKI* of his site...there's no clicks necessary to get to it other than clicking on WIKI
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you're up to date...it's supposed to CHECK for an update, like the help says
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: yes, I eventually got there.  :(
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no eventually needed...just wiki
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now for fiendish, because he's still got old zmud stuff totally separate from his aardmush stuff, there are many more clicks needed if starting from his finger site
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so for him, you'd go to not-porn, click mushclient, click wiki, click "included plugins", then click "featured plugins"
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the client guide/FAQ just above included plugins should also be read
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how come if i drag my mouse to the empty space that XXXX was on it still show his mana hp etc?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: i actually just redid all of my portals - it's not any of them 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what cexit is bad for you?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: it's set to enter a portal that I no longer have 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why would have a cexit that enters a portal?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you shouldnt use cexits for that
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: yes i realize this now. when i first got it someone gave me some bad advice. trying to fix it but like i siad, can't locate the portal
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: or rather the cexit
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok, what path do you try following that shows the problem?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: i noted you the commands
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stand 2s from recall and try mapper where <destination room number>...if it immediately tries to use the portal, then it's in as a portal...if it tries to run for a bit befor using the portal, then it's in as a cexit
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: she redid all her portals :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: yep, all my portals are good. 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: keep up abe :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "redid" hasn't been defined for me to accept that response
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've watched people "redo" stuff repeatedly without actually accomplishing the normal redo which would correct the issue
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: i purged all my portals and then put them back in ? 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: i have 8 in right now - amuse call fayk laby leg petstore reme wizards 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: step one, determine whether the mapper believes it's in as a cexit or a portal...before you go half-cocked "redoing" stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and how did you put them in?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: okay
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: 2 south of recall. xrt kingsh --- same thing 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: STOP
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: same script rather i sent fiendsih 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody said xrt
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't use that to test the mapper
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use the exact command that I gave
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you lost your wooden yoke?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: xrt is not a mapper command
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: maybe it's not cexits or portals, maybe you just put in again the portal you dont have?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: no i have my wooden yoke
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and the command I gave will be quick and short giving you the answer without running all over the world
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: k one second i'm trying to locate the room id for the room 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hence "I redid" isn't sufficient to rule them out as still being the problem...keep up nuanse ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: with 8 portals, and xrt with wooden yoke, you would run through laby into kingsholm
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: get 911216577 911230555
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: that is what i got....er well it cut off
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: double your semicolons
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: use ;; instead of 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is 911216577 a real portal and 911230555 a real bag?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ;
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: path to 27522 is : get *number* *number* hold *number*;remove; etc etc 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: not for me it's not a real portal or bag 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you have wrong portal, or alias for portal
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose alternatively you could try standing at recall and typing 'mapper thisroom'
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: okay ill keek looking at it, thanks 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Styliann Tech: of course that assumes that the real alias has an enter command, unlike the version posted here Nuanse
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just in case you set up a portal as cexit from recall
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type ";tech " on a line first, then you can paste in what it says
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, she sent it to me in a note
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry shae I didn't see that
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: xrt adds to mapper some function it's missing, it doesnt have it's own life :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I defy your definition of "missing"
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: it's alright
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne go to recall and type 'mapper thisroom'
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: running from one place to another with one simple command :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: okay
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: aaaaand tell me what it says
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: do you currently have a portal to The Labyrinth?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's not set up right.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: okay i'll recreate it
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I wish MUSHclient would be scriptable in OCaml.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no you don't
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: shouldn't be no you shouldn't?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: shouldn't that be*
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I am calling Cizra a liar.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cizra sulks in the corner.  Baby!!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ouch
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's Ocaml?  Sounds like an ode to Clyde.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: objective caml
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: does it have 1 hump or 2?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher smirks.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ODromedary
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Care to justify your rather aggressive point of view, Fiendish?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I learned Lua just so that I could write bots for MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: If MUSHclietn would be scriptable in OCaml, it'd give me a good excuse to get some practice in it :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Or do you know something about OCaml that I don't?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: In the words of the great racist Rudyard Kipling, 'Caml, OCaml, come and plough like the rest of us. "HUMPH" said OCaml.'
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Legendary Gruagach Tech: woah dude
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no good escuse to get practice in it...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no excuse for misspelling excuse. *halo*
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's it used for?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Like, programming.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Erh, sleepy-time.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: etz: escuse is like you've got some esplaining to do ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I'm swapping from my desktop (where everything is set up and working...yay) to my laptop client. I dropped the "aardwolf.db" file in my dropbox and then replaced the file on my laptop.Restarted the mush client. It's not showing my updated portals 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will want to do any file transfers while mushclient is closed
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in any case, why not put the whole mushclient directory in dropbox?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: i did that once.....it didn't go well. 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: both of my clients just kept freaking out 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: well yeah if you run it at the same time
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: i thought in the begining to drop th whole aard file in the dropbox and just open the client from there 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: but it didn't work nice
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ahhh, yeah. I guess file paths would get screwed up
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's no reason it shouldn't.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, file paths?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient clobbers relative plugin file paths when they get loaded
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: yeah it did not play nice at all. i though the syncing would be nice. but it was a no go 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: okay i'm going to fully close down the client and try it again.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: hrm. still no good. 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you should be closing both sides
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i put my whole client in dropbox
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: works fine 99% of the time
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, a few people routinely run MUSHclient from dropbox OK
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but as styx and fiendish said, only have one open at a time, give it some sync-up time before opening it on the other one
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you're running the same client on two computers?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I had a problem with that with CMUD. Since I had CMUD running at home, when I tried to access it at work, it had to open a "conflicted" file to avoid conflict. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: completely closed from all sides and still not working 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: copy paste your entire original folder
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think it's safe to have your world file in dropbox unless you have the same MUSHclient folder path on both computers
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: er, I mean the same dropbox folder path
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: okay. i'll try the whole folder.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: should i go ahead and delete the folder I have on my laopt, then drop in the whole folder onto my desktop? 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you may have to load all your plugins again
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what fiendish means is in the computer's dropbox settings, have the dropbox folder be in the same spot on both computer, like c:\dropbox on both computers, rather than one having it in c:\Documents and Settings\Johnny\Dropbox and another having it as c:\Documents and Settings\Mary\Dropbox
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, it CAN be Mary, Abelinc.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: os.getenv("UserProfile") will solve that.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: oh okay. okay i'm going ot keep working on this. need to eat lunch first. then ill give it a go. thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no etz, since that's not what MUSHclient stores plugin addresses using
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I could be wrong about this. hold on...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Ah, I'm partially wrong
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think that's a good thing in this case?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: There are two instances of paths that get saved non-relatively: plugins outside of the plugin folder, and the path to your world file that gets used by the recent connections list
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: except that the recent connections list doesn't overwrite the old relative path, it just adds a new absolute one
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you could, if you understand what is going on, keep using the old relative path
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and if you don't have plugins outside of the plugin folder then you're pretty much ok
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think I'll see if anyone has suggested not adding an absolute path to the connections list if a relative one already exists
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool, and the "one character/one world" case shouldn't care about recent connections list
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll still obviously have synchronization problems if you try to add new aliases or triggers or load new plugins on one side and then save on the other side
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: because you'll be overwriting your changes
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but then you just shouldn't be having both open at the same time
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: Fiendish I have to say great job on the client plugins.  Was this all done in lua?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: almost all of it
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: fiendish is a jerk!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the backup related stuff in the mapper actually makes Win32 calls through LuaJIT FFI
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's also obviously the necessary components in the MUSHclient API for drawing and hotspots
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: okay so if I drop my aard folder under " /Users/gagliardi/Documents/Dropbox"   - and open it from the same spot on both computers it should work? 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Shaelynne: "should work barring the statements I made above"
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: Do you have a lot of lua programmers working on the mud?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: Are you looking for more?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the MUD, there are different forms of work, in different languages, which would be delegated to different people...the core code of the MUD is C and not Lua, and is coded by one person and one person only
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: ME!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bupy giggles.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher surreptitiously affixes an 'Imm' badge to Bupy's chest, hoping that nobody notices it's written in crayon.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think the answer "no" is not that completely accurate
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that C core has lots of parts which are now accessible in Lua, allowing them to be changed by him or others...and then there's areas, which can be written (thematically) and coded (room/mobprog/goal) by players or IMMs
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that "no" was the first part of the accurate statement I was making ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: indeed
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Also *I* don't have lots of anyone working on anything.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher giggles at The Jerk Fiendish's actions.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: Do you find that the interfacing between the languages is smooth or a bit rough?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I wish I did, but few enough people contribute new code for the client.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which languages?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: C and lua
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Doge: as a newer player, your best bet would be to try to team up with someone else who is actually familiar with the MUD who is writing the thematic parts to an area, where you could help them with the program/implementation stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Doge of venice... Hey, is your name Stefan?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah you can do a lot with lua within an "area"...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say we want players more than programmers, and that you should be the former ahead of the latter
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: I can understand that, especially having no experience with lua myself
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: I would not mind at all working some someone on an area, I certainly wouldn't mind slowly learning another language
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think that writing area progs is not a good way to learn Lua
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Writing plugins, on the other hand, is, I think, a great way.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: Did you have plans for more plugins? It seems you have quite a few already for mush
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't have to be Fiendish's plans...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone can create plugins for MUSH.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: anyone can write plugins, there are tons available "aftermarket"
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In fact, many others have.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't even use MUSHclient, and I've got a few plugins available for people to use ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i've made 2 myself
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: simple level+pup timer with all info in it without any requirements from other plugins and reports to any given channel with every tier. that would be good lua project :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't know how many I have total, but there is something for everyone
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lua us pretty easy once ya get the hang of it
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: If you write a plugin that conforms to my style and desires for the future of the default client package, then I'm happy to take a look.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse: or you just use Bast's statmonitor and/or statdb
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: But most things fail to satisfy one of those two requirements.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that's why my stuff isn't in the default package :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: doesnt work abe for me. it requires too many plugins to work :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: what about a plugin that has this gui window where you click it a bunch of times and your cp is done?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: requires too many huh?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's not much left to add fiend...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doge Tech: What standards do you go by fiendish?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: just one plugin that does the reporting, basts has broadcasters etc that are required. 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and yes, I am using his plugins too :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nuanse: that's proper programming...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's a lot left to add. If you, for example, took the scrolling/selectable text box from my communication log plugin and generalized that to be addable arbitrarily to any other plugin, I'd be very grateful for saving me effort that I haven't yet been able to get myself to do
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I don't get why people think that is bad. I have several plugins that need that data and why would I want every plugin to have the same triggers and code?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it allows you to reuse code for multiple things, without every plugin that wants to know when xxx happened to have a full-on trigger of its own
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's the step I need to do before I can make the communication log window have channel tabs
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's not bad bast, it's just your way of doing it. more windows for things that could be just prompted on main window :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I think the comm log used like 3 plugin files last I looked
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, that's unfortunate
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not more windows, nuanse
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I never wanted it to be that way
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Unfortunately I had to spin out the main output gagging section in order to make it possible to have multiple log windows
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I think you're confusing terms or plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose I could take a look at that again and see if I can do it while keeping the two together
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: basically I'd have a "window" plugin, and then a channel plugin that just constructs windows
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: similar to what Bast does, but with fewer layers
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: technically, all my plugins include a help miniwindow, but it isn't a window that is active until you ask for the help for a plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: same way as you have quest window and gquest window and cp window, and yet, events does that all
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: too many windows :D
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeah, my miniwindows got way out of hand, I want to refactor it at some point because I didn't start with a solid design and just added things as I went. But refactoring would take a lot of time and effort
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nuanse: you're not supposed to use the separate once if you want the events
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I like it that way
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not supposed to load all of bast's stuff...you're supposed to choose the features that interest YOU
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Bast: me to
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: too
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: abe, I dont, I'm happy with events
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need any windows
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: funny, people got upset with me when I took out those 3 plugins when I created the events window, I added them back
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can have reporting to channels without ANY windows
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Too many windows is why I disliked a lot of the earlier communication triggers from zMUD/CMUD. A window for EACH channel was ridiculous.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Unfortunately I started everything with a chat capture plugin that evolved to have scrollbars and selection and url highlighting, instead of first designing a scrollable text area
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Etzli: my zmud channel capture had instructions for making tabs
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bupy things tech is magic and is constantly perplexed by Shazammm.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bupy wishes he could spell thinks instead of things...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I know. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I wouldnt mind tabs on channels window. as long as there is the current "all" tab that is default
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course it would keep "all" as the default
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: that would be really nice actually.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: then it would just add to current one without anything taken away :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: dropped aard folder in dropbox, and then dropped it back onto my laptop and it's all synched. didn't leave it in dropbox though. 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Anyone know of a good website that can help you choose a color theme for a website (perceptual color theory, etc) based on an initial color selection?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish gives Miss Tell Shaelynne a nod, saying, "OK".
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You shake your head.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: try a paint store, they help you match colors :p
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: could try just browsing themes on stuff like blogging sites to see if there's a theme based on a similar color
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah, i found a list of "25 Awesome Tools for Choosing a Website Color Scheme"
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: just googled it for you Fiendish http://colorschemedesigner.com
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not that those would usually be based on perceptual color theory rather than Jimmy liked this color
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: that the sorta thing you're after?! Select a thingy at the top, pick a color and it'll spew out matching appropriate colours?!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, step one: if the color scheme designer site comes up looking butt ugly when you first load it, go somewhere else
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: btw, just released a new version of bastmush, includes an plugin that does eq sets!, which was a very popular request
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: hate to be sexist, but as a guy, I have no concept of colors... there is purple red blue green yellow orange white and black.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is combattracker in the release as well, bast?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: what about mauve?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it ain't in roy g biv, it ain't a color
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: cyan, magenta, green on black ontuct. those are colours we learned from :P
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: yeap
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, that's a weird way to learn...should either be RBG or CMYK if you're gonna go that route
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: err RGB
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/vrc/2010/04/05/test-your-color-acuity/ - try this to see how good you can see differences in the color spectrum
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's colours we used on telnet to mud :P
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: just make your site beige
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: time before all these colours
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I remember the old orange/black green/black monitors.... usually with a few lines of text burned right in.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, when I started MUDding, it was on green, not on black
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i remember using a tv
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: a black and white tv at that
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse gasps as he realizes what Tigernuts did.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: color tv's were expensive, you couldn't justify one for your computer
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: our apple ii+ had an rf convertor
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: converter
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: this test takes too long. 
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well i remember imagination
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I also remember it is a nice day get out of the house!
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher shakes her head.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's cold and windy outside
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it's cold and dark here
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I think my mom would have sent me out in thunderstorms if it would have shut me up
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: back to tech stuff :P
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: I have a pretty simple question, how can I set up an alias that functions with mapper as well
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: for example
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: yes, set the evaluation type to execute
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twyst Tech: tyvm :)
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods send to execute or Execute ('amsdbah')
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: hey what does the trace option of MushClient do?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: echo's commands you enter, iirc
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: allows Lasher to trace you back trough your connection to your exact location for a REAL nuke.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Lasher has all our IP's, he can trace us anyways :P
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hehe
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: is there a way to find what you just traced?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 'trace', if i recall correctly is simply an option that shows what you types as an echo, on the client side, before it sends it to the mud. So if you type "tech hello" you'll see "tech hello echo'd" then you'll see "{chan ch=tech}Tech: hello". That's all it does. There's nothing to find, other than scroll up and look for what you typed.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: The trace option of MUSHclient does more than just echo what you type. It shows every time a script function fires anywhere, which is going to be extremely spammy because of the repaint buffer plugin that fires many times per second
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is there a way to make your mapper not try to use a portal alias if you have the portal equipped already and just enter it instead?
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not really, but such "spam" is tolerated
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you'd need a script to track all your portals and change what mapper does each time you wear a portal...
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: alright, this channel is now on
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: great
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: close mushclient and then look inside MUSHclient/worlds/Aardwolf.mcl down at the very end of the file where the plugins get loaded. copy that and then come back and tell me what it says
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: I'ma  new player, but I'm well versed with wine, crossover, bash, terminal, etc..., so hopefully we can resolve this quickly.
T3/r7/2012-12-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: kk
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: <!-- plugins -->
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: </muclient>
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: before that there are alot of plugins loaded
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do they have full paths or just the plugin name?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: just the name - example: <include name="aard_chat_echo.xml" plugin="y" />
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for all of them, even including the prompt fixer plugin?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: yes, <include name="aard_prompt_fixer.xml" plugin="y" />
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hm
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you save right now (ctrl+s) and then close and restart mushclient does the error message still occur or is it gone?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: brb, restarting it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: yes, i received the same error stating that the paths in the .mcl file were malformed
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I see. Go to File->Global Preferences... then in the Plugins tab click the "Plugins Directory..." button and make sure it is pointing at your current plugins directory
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: ah, there are no pointers there. Should I put it to all of the xml files in plugins in the plugins option in global prefs?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just point the directory
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't add to the global plugins list
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: on my setup it says ".\world\plugins" but selecting it again should give it an absolute path just to be safe
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: ok, done - it's pointing to Z:/path/to/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok now save your settings and restart again
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (I hope he didn't die)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: still have the error - screenshot here: http://grab.by/ilNM
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: damn
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: sorry, just reconnected int he last 10 secs by accident, so if you said anything after the screenshot comment, I may have missed it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tech -h goes past your login btw :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: ah great, thanks for that history command
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you email me a copy of your aardwolf.mcl file? Make sure it doesn't have any password stored in it first
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm kind of stumped at the moment
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: no problem - will send it right through. What's your email address?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: got it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: sent it to your public email address just now
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: uh
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where is the plugin loading section?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that way --->
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: at the very bottom
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Not in the file you sent me
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think maybe you accidentally deleted the lines from it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: hmm, let me double check that attachment
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: odd - that may have changed after I resaved and restarted
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: im going to reinstalll it again
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: brb
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: fiendish - I fixed it finally. Thanks for your help. 
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what was the fix?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what did ya do? upgrade? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: hah, no no. I did what you told me to do on a fresh install, and then instead of restarting, I created a new session which threw a save-state error. Fixed that issue, and now everything works
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so wut?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: fresh install = download and run?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: fresh isntall, download, execute, fix global preferences, re-run session while in mushclient instead of a full shutdown, and fix a storage persistance error
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I'm glad it works now, though I'm still not sure what the problem was
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: the problem was that the worlds and plugins director were pointing to the wrong director for some reason
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: instead of Z:/Applications/MUSHClient/worlds
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that don't sound fresh :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: it was pointing to Z:/MUSHclient/worlds for some odd reason
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well yes, but I don't know why
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: ah, ya, neither do I. 
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: if it happens next time, I'll know why. Another question - I have crossover, but that allows me to install executables. If I were to install mushclient from the official website and copy over the worlds/ folder and it's contents, would that be equivalent to downloading the aardwolf-flavored mushclient zip file?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you copied everything in the mushclient folder, then yes
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: got it, thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there are customizations in more than just the plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some of the plugins, for example, rely on featues from LuaJIT that I compile myself for the package
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so the Lua dll is different
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah between mush, the plugins and aard you'll go batty trying to remember them in no time :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: hah, im having a hard enough time trying to remember all of the commands for my guy. This is tons harder than playing your traditional MMO, which is what I'm used to. I'm just glad I have the client up and running now
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that helps a ton
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i've never had an issue, yet :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but i never upgrade either...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: ah, I'm an early adopter when it comes to software
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i should get the newer one from the site, but i can't think of a good enough reason yet
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: couple minor bug fixes...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bug fixes and new features?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe lash didn't do the new features justice?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i can't seem to remember anything...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I sent him two versions of the upgrade note and he posted the brief one
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: he links to the development change list anyway on the website
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: fiendish can I ask/state a feature request, from a new player's perspective, i.e. mine? 
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: file feature requests here https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: how's that level lock search thing coming? *inno*
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: in the big map (the non-ascii one), it'd be awesome if the box colors had a legend. blue for wtaer, green for fields, and the other colors for whatever they stand for
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: ah, just saw that - will file it there
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you ever file a feature request for it?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh. click the asterisk in the corner
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that has ones that are not based on terrain
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: man that site again...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i get nowhere on that site
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: click New Issue, then delete everything and type what you want
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: so i just got a kindle fire...how to mud from a kindle?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Blowtorch android app
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually there's one branded for aardwolf. just search for aardwolf in google play
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: thanks. not gunna fool with it then.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ampersand Tech: Wish windows rt has a mudclient
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: oooh...ill look into it ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: is it worth-while...compared to pc/mush.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not really
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compared to those, absolutely not
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: fiendish is there a branded iOS client? The only wrothwhile client I saw in the app store was Pocket Mud Pro
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: on its own, without those to be compared to, definitely
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: windows rt... pfft way confuse consumers...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mobile will always royally suck compared to computer...it has no choice...less processor, generally less network, less screen real estate and more cumbersome user input abilities...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: shoulda called it microsoft shaft
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so compared to computer, not worth it...however, when your computer is sitting at home and you're on a bus to work, mobile is worth it and doesn't suck compared to nothing
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: wasnt sure how good the kindle was, i was hoping to be able to treat it as a pc and install mush, lol. i could only dream right
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you want pc apps, get a pc...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or let abe teach ya
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i feel sorry for people using windows rt windows 8... ms has finally gone full shill it seems...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: get a mac? get a mac.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: or run linux
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or use windows 7
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can access MUSHclient from mobile using things like remote desktop, VNC, etc...but really, mobile doesn't have the screen real estate for the GUI bells & whistles, so you're either zoomed out and can't read, or zoomed in and only seeing parts
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i guess if i get linux i only need a cheap vid card...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my recommendation for mobile is to go command-line...use a telnet/ssh app, and use that to connect to anotherh computer running a real MU
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lovemaker Tech: I think the 7-9 inch devices have enough real estate for a couple screens
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my recommendation for mobile is to go command-line...use a telnet/ssh app, and use that to connect to anotherh computer running a real MUD client
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Depends on what kind of device you're looking at.. Nexus 10 or ipad retina resolution probably beats a lot of peoples desktop res
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nod need for a good gpu when you can't run games...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not when it comes to readability
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: go back to that other evil empire "sony" and get a ps3?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the GUI tools will also have more latency than a telnet/ssh method
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now for me, my client has no native GUI so it's a no brainer...for those using MUSHclient, it can still be accomplished using something like duckbat's proxy, but the setup is involved
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for those using zmud (pre-cmud), duckbat's proxy has the added bonus of giving zmud GMCP capability
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but use of the proxy to allow you to connect mobile to your computer client involves telling computer client to connect to 127.0.0.1 rather than to aardmud.org, telling your router to route ssh from external into the proxy, and setting up a trigger on a "command prefix" that you designate to be added to what you type from mobile, which executes the rest of the command
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds easy enough, heh :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way, when you connect to home from mobile, you'd type in something like mapper goto 12345, and it'll send something like "MOBILE>mapper goto 12345", which your MUSHclient alias would execute "mapper goto 12345"...you couldn't use the mapper thisroom stuff, since that just sends output to the screen and not across the wire
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if start mudding from a phone when i leave the house, please shoot me
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a great way to keep your DB requests regular, or to grab a quick quest :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Or as a glorified chat client
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'll quest on the phone, but I don't usually chat on it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quest takes less typing :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Fair.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just read notes
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I tend to IM/SMS a lot anyway, so one more chat isn't much of a problem
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, notes have too much text for my liking on phone
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my phone has a slideout keyboard and quite high resolution
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah nobody likes constipated DB requests...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I use bluetooth keyboard :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I regularly use IRC on my phone with three split channels visible in irssi at a time
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: gawd i haven't touched IRC with a tenfoot pole in over a decade...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Khair Tech: yeah, I haven't been on IRC since I started MUDs, so... probably '97, no later than '99.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's funny
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: You know there are all kinds of modern instant messaging and chatting programs out there. AIM, and MSN, and Skype, and everything else. And the people who /make/ all that software all use IRC to talk to each other.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i barely use email anymore either...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I love all the pundit comments of "will social media replace email, blah blah"...as of yet, you still can't even have a social media account without email ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: social media is for... being social, email is for work
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: none of the established ones, anyway, I'm sure there's some underground social outlet somewhere that doesn't require email verification
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: needing email and using email are 2 different things
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh yeah if you ever see me tweeting about what i had for breakfast... shoot me
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if you ever see me use twitter or facbook, shoot me
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i got on facebook and regret it now
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why? you can always unsubscribe
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the underground social outlet that requires no email is called IRC
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause it's the only way i stay in contact with most of my friends
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: esp of the opposite sex variety :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: By "stay in contact" you mean stalk?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you never talk to old friends? are you 12?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Heh, was just poking fun.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well stalking isn't really fun
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: one of those "friends
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nm wrong channel...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how fast is HSPDA?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how fast is WCDMA?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Fast enough for a 15 second youtube video, painful for a 30 minute pornogr- I mean educational video.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why don't you google it? 
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: whats the syntax to use bast hunt?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: ha I think and ht?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: nope
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nao Tech: ht is winkle:P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Is it installed?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It can be both!
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: btw winkles one keep on messing up like  xmapper move 20164 
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: then it says wrong commang
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: then it says wrong command
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone know how to fix it?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: mine is ht for hunt trick and ha for autohunt
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so is training HP always equal to 10 hp
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lets reword that to make better sense, does hp go up 10 each time you train it?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: you will probably get a better answer on the question channel
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: sorry was asking here since it was in relation to a script
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gades Tech: in mushclient i want to set up a macro to run a few commands, what do i use as a seperator?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ;
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gades Tech: do I have to put like 2 of them in a row or something, cause I tried that
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: put each command on its own line
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Try putting one on each line.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can just put them on seperate lines, you don't need a ;
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gades Tech: gotcha, the seperate lines did the job :) thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i wish they'd put an "disconnect" option in the context menu for usb hard drives on windows xp
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: when I'm trying to defrag my disks I can't find my main drive, any idea why?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone ever had a problem with dfs detecting files that aren't really there?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's dfs?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: distributed file system
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kiss my Arystul Tech: so I just somehow made my mushclient screen oversized for full screen any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: isnt there a command to reset the windows?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: for the aard mush client anyways
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: anyone know if the health bar plugin get any bug fixes from r1557 to the new one?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: santher: run the update check command, it'll enumerate the changes
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i just wanna know if the resizing issue was fixed... :)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or go to the source part of the website and click that plugin, it'll show the last few changes
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resizing where it crawls like hell?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that was fixed hella long ago
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the one where it gets stuck "too long"
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i had to stop using it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ary: can you see any of the 4 corners?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right-click the MUSH in the taskbar, select "move"...then use the arrow keys without clicking your mouse anywhere
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can move MUSH around to where you can grab a corner, shrink it and move it how you want
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: santher: I can't seem to make my healthbars too long even intentionally, but on right-click, there's an option called "(in case of emergency)", of "reduce size"
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: weird...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: seems to be ok now :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or not...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: reduce size just screws it up
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: screws it up?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: now instead of a horizontal list, it's vertical
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not screws it up, that's merely different layout option
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah unstack bars fixed that
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah it toggles stacked bars too i guess
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: at least i can grab the resize corner again :)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as it's labelled for emergency, I'd say it's meant to take it to a known state...prolly "reset" rather than shrink would be better term
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: either i was missing it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: grr now reduce size isn't working...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how often do you play around with the stupid thing? put it along the bottom and leave it alone :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so what is reduce size doing?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that's what she said.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: anyone know how to make facebook functional when all im getting on laptop is a white page with all the buttons as words on the left side of the page, no pics and none of it actually DOES anything? 
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: do you have javascript disabled?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Adblockers and script blockers will do that, Caressa.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: not sure...its a house comp
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll need to allow ads on Facebook and allow Facebook to bypass javascript stuff.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is there a bar on the bottom of your browser that talks about scripts being enabled?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: im checking
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you'll need to allow facebook.com and fbcdn.net
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: lol youre magic! soon as i opened the page to fix it it was working
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: are you single?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: are you hot?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: <<<<milf
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No response, *blink*
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And hey, he wasn't the only one to respond! :p
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: pix or i dont believe you
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're a lightie. No one believes you.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli comforts Eutychus.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Eutychus sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Caressa Tech: that was a chuckle! >_< not a chocobo
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli wonders how many people sent tells to Caressa begging for pics after her milf comment. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: You did i bet! =p
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's a negative.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Caressa runs around the room very fast, stopping occasionally to exclaim "Wark!"
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I only looked her up online and called her phone.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you almost never want "milf" after "are you single"...
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nah, etzli doesn't beg, they just come to him =p
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher is looking at Caressa and panting lustily... What the hell does she see in a 400lb, 50-year old trucker from Duluth, named Bubba, that's all that sexy?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Hey ain't nothing wrong with a Milf. Thats Macbook I'd Like for Free, right?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Duluth is a nice town though
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that explains it :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing wrong with a milf, but they come with baggage by definition
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I knew an old lady who came from duluth. Oddly enough, she was bit by a dog, with a rabid tooth.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah they work harder to keep you :P
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so good for casual, not for something which leads from "are you single?" ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Well the follow up to "are you single?" "yes." "Fancy a shag?"
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you single? as long as you don't ask my wife.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Nice.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Someone has to pay for her babys diapers.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the health bars plugin will be fixed in the next development snapshot
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rechy Arxe Tech: oh os x lion, you're as graceful as an ice skater on sand paper
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's mean to sandpaper skaters.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rechy Arxe chuckles at Chaz Bono Cheezburger's joke.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: But i'm of the opinion anymore that virutally anything from Apple is 'shiny' vomit.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rechy Arxe Tech: X11 won't stop friggin' opening crashing and reopening, interrupting aard every second
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Running GIMP?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Nothing seemed to happen, but error on upbutton or downbutton in drawshuttle? :p
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Oh it's inventory related again.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: whatcha talking about?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I sold a bunch of items (20 or so) and got that error. Just tracked it to inventory related plugins (bast)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh no
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess the note mode plugin blocks scrolling in the chat window :\
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: And now the error also appears whenever I type 'i', strange, didn't happen yesterday :p
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "the error" is not a useful report
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I'm not surprised it happens every time now
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you need to reload the plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: Which one?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the one that errored
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I imagine there's an error log file then somewhere, I'll look for it
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: seriously? not 2 minutes ago you said yourself which plugin caused the error
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aduin Tech: I know it's inventory related only :)
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm, I don't quite get how traceroute works, though. It's returning lower return times for some servers further up the chain than earlier ones.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: That in itself is a measure of network fluctuation, right?
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: times are transient, they fluctuate
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: of network latency fluctuation, not necessarily of network instability
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I figured as much. The fluctuations have got to be useful for some kind of information as well.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you're looking more for "which link is delaying me" rather than "where does it all go wrong", try pathping instead of traceroute
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: h 30
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish mutters something quietly to himself.
T3/r7/2012-12-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NUB! said the Mokg to the The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: using the mapper and cexit for mush, if i have 7 custom exits in one room, how do i delete just one?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try right-clicking the room
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the right-click menu select delete exit, highlight the cexit in the list that comes up & click OK
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: dont see those options when i right-click but i figured it out, just purged it, now the next thing, how do i get it to stop trying to use my clan portal for the clan area exits?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you don't see "Delete exit" as an option when you right-click on a room in the mapper, you should probably consider updating, cuz you're using a pretty ancient version missing tons of features
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: remove the clan portal from your portals list
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "mapper help portals" will list various commands related to portals
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: hi guys anyone using the muchclient
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: majority are
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: ok soo i wanna figure out where to locate the trigger option mainly for audio triggers. have any idea where to look?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: hardcore !
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that site has a royal ton of good info on the aard mushclient package
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: you just made my day
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't feed into his ego. It's big enough as it is. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Abe you n sliced bread , still making my mind up !
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: well for now he deserves it hahaha
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc always deserves it
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: See what I mean? ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You rapidly nod twice at Book of Etzli, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's only conceited if it isn't true
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: note the lack of comeback ? 
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: Abe you rock !
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: hmm i slosed a mini window how do i open it again?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: closed
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on the miniwin
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: a showevent mini window
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: some plugins have a hide/show command
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try mev show
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: cant see it tho
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: try rebooting?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what happened when you typed that command? did it give you any output, command not found, etc?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: gq sec
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: note that for the events miniwin, it'll only show itself when there's a qualifying event...it'll stay unshown until then
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i noticed since my last gq thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you type "mev windows", yours will probably say "Shown  : false" and "Hidden  : false"...the false for hidden means that it WANTS to show itself, but the false for shown means that it's just not shown at this moment
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: is there sound triggers in bast mush triggers?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how does aardwolf regen plugin work?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: from where do i copy my explored mapper to replace the new one
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the instructions on Aardwolf.com tell you exactly what files to copy
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pervius Tech: anyone know where i can find help files on programming triggers for the games android script?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone hre?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: here. but prolly won't be any help. 
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: anyone here good with regexp? I'm trying to capture the first line in finger info and it's causing me problems
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: I came up with this line... "^Level (?<Level>.*) (?<Sex>.*) (?<Race>.*) (?<Class>.*) (Tier (?<Tier>.*)).$"
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://regexpal.com/
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: use [^ ]*
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: however it also triggers when someone is advisor or helper and the Level becomes both level and sex
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: Level (?<Level>[0-9]+) (?<Sex>\w+) (?<Race>\w+) (?<Class>\w+) (\[[^\]]+\] )?\((Tier (?<Tier>.+)\)\.$
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: what does the [0-9] part mean?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: just means you want to extract a number as opposed to characters
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: ahh makes sense :)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Hrm. That other didn't work for me, not sure why. this did though: ^Level (?<Level>[0-9]+) (?<Sex>[a-zA-Z]+) (?<Race>[a-zA-Z]+) (?<Class>[a-zA-Z]+) [a-zA-Z\[\]]* \(Tier (?<Tier>[0-9])\)\.$
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: will that capture both advisors and non advisors?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Worked for Portia
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And for me
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: alright thanks a lot :)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: a sword or a tablet?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: is there a way to get mush to remember your layout on reopen?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: somehow plugin windows end up in the same position (not ideal) on each reopen
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vindictive Thunderax Tech: rather than where i last put them
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how can I make windows stop trying to update the evaluation copy of office everytime I boot?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Multiple choice, short answer?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you make alias to open in all directions with the mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: help alias?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah you could do ingame :P
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush gui is pretty simple though for making aliases/trigs...
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alt+enter to open that up
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: got it thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone who uses mushclient on osx available for a quick question
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to prevent the command key from highlighting the "wine" or menu at the top?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh that top menu is what keeps me from liking osx :P
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: darn thing annoying
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: The newer Ubuntus do that too, don't they?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so its not just me
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ubuntu does that too?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ugh
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to disable that?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: guess i stick with windows 7 then
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not that i've seen
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: get vmware and run win 7? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: you can configure anything in ubuntu, including using different desktop managers
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have vmware i just dont like to sit and have to open that up
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: seems like more overhead than needed
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: since everything else with mush works fine
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: install win 7 via bootcamp?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: still defeating the purpose
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so win 7 can be loaded up without osx?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: learn to like osx then i guess
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Has anyone who uses MUSHclient's mapper successfully written a cexit to get into the royal section? The command line to get through all the stores and whatnot is too long to do a normal cexit entry.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: can't you put the command line in an alias and call the alias in the cexit?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Royal section of what? also mapper cexit_wait 20
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Also, you can
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Knossos? I have one.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think knossos
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flip Tech: anyone get "unable to create savestate file" error messages using basts plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yeah, in Knossos - like to get to the Senators and stuff.  I didn't think an alias would work because the mapper still would calculate the cexit as being "completed" midway through.  I'd need a pause like was suggested, or something else.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I had assumed a pause would stop the character's movement, but if it just stops the calculations, then I guess that'd work fine.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can use wait(10) in a cexit
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Right.  I suppose it's just a matter of figuring out the right amount of time for the pause, then, isn't it?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I use wait(5) in mine and it works fine
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: That didn't work for me, though I'm unsure if I put the pause in the right part.  The pause just made me wait 5 seconds before starting the speedwalk, and then it still calculated halfway through.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: use the pause at the end of the entire thing, I have an alias that does all of it
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Oh, at the end.  That makes more sense.  Duh. *facepalm
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Is there any real benefit to using an alias over a command string?  If the mapper's calculating it either way...
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i have an alias that does all the buying and crap
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: not sure why you need to put a wait
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: saves typing, and is reusable
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: redryn: because the default wait is 2 seconds and is not enough time to buy, give, get everything
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: why make a wait at all?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you mean there's an issue saving the cexit
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: hmm i dunno how i got mine saved
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Correct.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i probably editted the plugin to wait 10 secs and then changed it back after making it
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Seems like more work than dropping a wait in the alias :P
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Now I can't figure out why it's not recognizing my alias...I swear I've done this before.  It just reports back "Invalid directions in command."
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well that makes your mapper save a wait which will slow you down
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: is your alias send or execute
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: are you perhaps sending to world instead of execute inside your alias?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Execute.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: turn on echocomman
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: make it send to world, since you don't need mushclient to parse it
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Still reporting back "invalid directions in command".  Is it not possible to use an alias when creating a cexit? I could've sworn I've done this before...
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did you turn on echocommands?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yes; it just reports "You entered: blah blah blah"
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: what's the blah blah blah
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The speedwalk itself; i.e. "run <direction>;buy steak;etc. etc."
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: that means you're not parsing the ;'s correctly
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it's parsing the ;s
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't double up ; in your alias
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Hm..That very well could be the problem.  I have them doubled in the alias like an idiot, since the mapper cexits require them.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Will the mapper still process the cexit if the semicolons aren't doubled, then?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you don't wont to have to worry about the semicolons, make it send to world and put each command on a seperate line
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Alright, I'll try that - when I deleted them down to single semicolons, it still reported back as "invalid directions in command" again.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well use echocommands to see what you're screwing up
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: and fix that
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Putting the commands on separate lines fixed the problem;the alias and speedwalk work now.  I think the 5 seconds might be a hair too long, as it pauses at the end;perhaps 4 might be better.  Other than that, thanks everyone. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how can i put sound triggers to show i must quest?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flip Tech: in mush, just adding a sound to the trigger, trigger being QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech Bloke Danj Tech: don't forget to anchor it to the start of the line though :) so people can't prank trigger it
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: where can i get sounds btw?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: google
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: auto anchors unless you tell it otherwise :P
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flip Tech: porn.com
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err mush
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: mine is "flight of the Valkaries" :D
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: icant get on google
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try yahoo or any other search engine
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: wav files 
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: make one 
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah get a mic and make your own sounds :P
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: or use audacity and generate a 7000hz tone
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that will get your attention
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone got insight how to watch twitch.tv videos on jelly bean fullscreen
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In Fiendish's Aardwolf package, is there a plugin running that has the GMCP variables I can just require and use in my own scripts?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: GCMP_Handler i do believe
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: GMCP*
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Yeah you get the variables from that.  The wiki page has examples, but you have to use a function to get them from that plugin, no easy way as far as I know to just access them directly.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a gmcp variable to get maximum trainable stat
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maximum trainable?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you can calulate that based on your level
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like now i can do 400 at t9
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: see help maxstats
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i know, i was just curious if the data was already there
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if not ill calc it
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: oh man is everyone a t9 nowadays
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: everyone but me
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i had the impression you were t3 or something
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i don't believe so, but you can figure that out based on level and tier and help maxstats... but potential the comes into that which isn't provided either
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Club went down hill since they allowed me in.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: and me three :)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: omg mendaloth is also a t9?!
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And he joined a real clan.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well im doing a generic plugin to calc trains needed to max each stat
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i'm so out of touch
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: Jhav left DoH!?!
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox runs away from Jhav in utter terror and horror!
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: omg jhav joined rhabdo?!
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Wait, I did?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Must be some sort of bug.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav tickles Redryn.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there no gmcp var for tiers
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There is.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: gmcp.char.base.tier
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i didnt see it on the list thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ahh it was on the main wiki not the mush section
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: appreciate it
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to return a var from function in lua (mush)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: none of the functions im looking at have a return (xxx)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you mean?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're not talking about GetVariable("variablename"), right?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like i want to have a math function :: call a function sending parameters, and have it return a value
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: return [value]
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: so it is just return varname
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: or value*
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends if it's a mush variable or a lua variable.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: lua var
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In a function, it's just return var, then.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: function foo(bar) do return bar*2 end
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Send ("k "..(GetVariable("target")))
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Santher about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Anyone happen to know how to import alias' from zmud to the mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can only do it for very simple aliases
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Well these are all speedwalks, so pretty simple
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/CommandLineAliasesAndTriggers
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read that
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bloood Tech: not really sure if this is the right place to ask but i figure its the BEST place to ask.. when upgrading manor with shopkeeper 2 questions.. 1.how do i find my manor id, 2.are the items the shopkeeper will sell free to add to the shopkeepers sales inventory? I figured the part about name sex short long desc and story, just need to know about adding shopkeeper and items to their sales inventory and prices for it etc
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'd say it's a q/a thing, but check out help mu-.  You can use rstat in your manor.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NanoFaze Tech: A little help with triggers. Whats the command prompt for a typed command sent to world to be used as trigger?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: that's an alias, not a trigger.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: can you have or conditions in a lua while loop
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish raises an eyebrow at Doc Holliday's weird actions.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: a trigger is a value that gets sent when the mud sends something to your client that "triggers" it.
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NanoFaze Tech: say I want to type an alias but desire it to be multiple lined. IE - when I am thirsty and hungry, I want to recall
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: while (a or b) do ... end
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can put multiple commands in mudside aliases, or you can do it in your client
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: But not when you are only hungry or thirsty?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Holliday: of...course?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: assumed so, but new to lua so just confirming :)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anything that evaluates to true or false can be used
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NanoFaze Tech: I tried aliasing recall
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you tried doing what?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NanoFaze Tech: I tried aliasing recall- run u3n- drink fountain and it only ran recall
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ah
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're using mushclient you will need to double all of your semicolons
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NanoFaze Tech: aha
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NanoFaze Tech: TY so much. I am new to mush
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_send_a_literal_semicolon?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Step 1: Open Word  Step 2: Type a ;  Step 3: Print the page  Step 4: Mail the page to Lasher... you have now sent a literal semicolon
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}NanoFaze Tech: ty again
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Step 1: Buy snorkel gear. Step 2: Put it on. Step 3: Run down the beach with your laptop into the ocean. Step 4: Press ;. you have now sent a littoral semicolon
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: if (level <= '70' ) then
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: Line  178: Element name must start with letter or underscore, but starts with "=" (Cannot load)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't use < in the xml section of a plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you have to use &lt;
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: well damn
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: < is an invalid character in xml
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's why I try not to do much in the xml sections
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's fine to do down in the script block
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: one last scripting question
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: for the night
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i have a script grabbing gmcp vars and calculating them
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but i will get an error unless i do an action before the script works
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like if i load plugin and kick it off, it fails.. but if i go attack something or spellup then kick it off, it works fine
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I use xterm to mud - was wondering if there is a way to diable the status line that appears periodically? [6784/7534hp 1744/6823mn 3908/3908mv 1qt 803tnl] >
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why do you use xterm?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (also prompt)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I use tinyfugue - dont want that status bar appearing
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: what can I do?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I just told you
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is there a way to initialize gmcp vars on plugin load feindish?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define initialize
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: like if i load plugin and kick it off, it fails.. but if i go attack something or spellup then kick it off, it works fine
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define kick it off
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: tech -h 10
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: is there a supported way to get bast's quest plugin to show all the time? (even when waiting for the next quest)?
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: previously i just slightly modified the source so it always stayed open but i lost that when i upgraded
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: its kind of like a basic stat reporter that grabs the vars and displays them
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but it doesnt work until i attack a mob or spellup or something of the sort
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define it doesn't work
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: C:\Program Files\MUSHclient\lua\gmcphelper.lua:18: nil parent passed to get_gmcp
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: looks like you're trying to access a value that hasn't been set yet
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: i can just make the same change again i just figure if theres a way to do it thats upgradeproof id rather do that
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: was just using things like gmcpval("status.level")
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no idea morill
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: assumed it would already be set
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: send a patch to bast to include in the next version
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: well i assume some people like it how it is
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: gmcpval assumes you've already populated gmcpdata
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: sure, make it configurable somehow
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: as it says on the aardwolf wiki
T3/r7/2012-12-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: apparently i didnt read the "note" above the code - sorry for bothering ya, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I am trying to reduce unnecessary battle output lines.  I managed to do damage 2 and nospam - that reduces lots of battle lines.  Can I reduce the numer of spell damage lines too? I dont seem to have control over that
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Can anyone recommend any tech podcasts worth listening to?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: well i got it to work based off a plugin variable
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: you think bast would take that as a patch?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinder Tech: help
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: be more specific
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinder Tech: Sorry, I was making sure I just turned this on... I want to add the Bash plugin... last time I tried it jacked up the entire main screen so that I couldnt read anythinig... including 'look'
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try adding them one at a time
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinder Tech: Do I need to log off the world to add plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinder Tech: Okie dokey... here goes one by one.  I add each file from bash
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think you mean Bast
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd just add the ones you actually want
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinder Tech: And yes... Bast
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tinder Tech: I just wanted to get the spell componenets
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: why does winklewinkle's script say xmapper goto? because its mapper goto...
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how do i make a gquest allert trigger?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: look for '*Global Quest * has been declared for *' then have it play a sound. Mine has trumpets.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: ahh thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: can someone give me a site to help me kae triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: make*
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: scurvy lik this?Global Quest: Global quest # * has been declared for levels * to *.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: should do it
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: ehy does mush do nothing after a tick? it only does something if i type something
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: why should it react to a tick unless you have programmed it to?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i mean it does noyhing it doesnt even show the tick unless i do something
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: what do i type to make a trigger when it says "You raise a level! You are now level 53." but without the 53
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: *
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krispin Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: who uses Winkle plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Amarufox points excitedly!
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: everyone with more than 1k cps done?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: why does it say xmapper move??? xmapper aint a command
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: hah!
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: where does it say that?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: when i autohunt
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: and your autohunt isn't working or what?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: well its suppose to move but it isnt
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: sure you have hunt praced?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: uhm yes
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: xmapper is an extension of the mapper you have to download from Winkle's scripts.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Defending his clannies, Amarufox explains Book of Etzli that maze navigators are not illegal!
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: oh so thats why, thanks etzli
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: nogs, good to know as much as folks ask about that one
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I need help on gmcp.  what is the variable for qt?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: any techies on?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: This information is on the wiki.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think it was comm.quest or something.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: how do I store and use a variable in mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: no tech gurus around I think :(
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Ashiya, do you mean Lua variables or MUSHclient world variables?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Any SCSI guru's out there?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: SCSI ? is it still alive ?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'm not bad with ASCII
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: That was going to be my next question Trach
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: bus/peripheral work, screw that.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Its still alive... Dell Poweredge 2600
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: are you sure SCSI, not SAS ?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Getting a Medium Error after a normal shutdown on one of the 5 drives.. I do not want to just refill a new drive I need to fix this one.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: special air service?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Its a RAID5
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: any time you get an error on a drive in a raid set, you replace it with a new
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: FIX? How? fault drive should be replaces as cannot be trusted anymore
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: you need to replace it
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I want to fix the error because im cloning them with DD in linux
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: fdisk -l isnt even showing the drive.. the adaptect scsi adapter is giving me a medium error in the scsi utilites menu
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I have 3 of the 5 drives imaged, I need to image this one to set up a virtual raid to retrieve data.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So you want to ghost a faulted HD in a raid setup?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you have 3 of 5 drives, then it should be enough for RAID 5
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Thought it could only take 1 hit not 2.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: this a just a curiousity question but can you cheatomatic the game
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: read help bot
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, RAID 6 has 2, RAID 5 has 1 
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: 2 of the 5 drives have medium errors =p
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could try to upgrade firmware of raid controller
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I could.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: look at http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/servers/f/906/p/17728019/17851005.aspx#17851005
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: I should also mention, the machine im using to clone them with DD, is not the server they are housed in.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, that 6 beeps may indicate problems with connectors
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: hmm... anyone by chance familiar with immaterial rights here? :)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: i can pay you handsomely for just some small amount of general information! :P
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: (feel free to send a tell/note too)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean soul ?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: in this sceneraio "learning material banks" and immaterial rights
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you mean intellectual property?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, you need to be a bit more specific about that rights (also whether you are violator or violated :) )
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: yep redryn
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: trachx: well, maybe both ... as i'm just trying to find information in general - to tell and explain about it
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you need to have a more specific question, otherwise wiki is probably a better source...
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: if someone comes up with a nice summarization... i can give 25m gold to best one
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: http://www.nixtu.info/2011/12/brief-primer-to-immaterial-rights.html
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: 25m plz
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: (provided with links, just not only wikipedia) :)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: redryn, dunno if thats an actual summarization.... :)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: but if thats best people will give me... perhaps that 25m is yours. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dexter Tech: ...i'll see to it
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I have probably the most elementary question in the history of WLAN
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: what is wlan?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: up till now you haven't even had a question
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Wireless local area network, probably.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I have a wireless network adapter built in to my laptop. What exactly do I need to buy to be able to build a WLAN? I mean, I get free ADSL from my apartment
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: so that wasnt't most elementary question..
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: But I have no "station" or whatever it is. The box that has an antenna on it.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: wlan modem/router
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you have it all already
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: The prob is that I have to connect via this cable
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: get a router and plug the cable into that
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse strongly suggests you all rtfm.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods at Redryn.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Nuanse, what are you on? I have no router, so I have no access point
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I can't make an access point out of the cable itself
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Buy. A. Router.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: So on to the router: Does it matter what kind it is?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And Plug it into the cable, there's your access.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not really
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: though some are better than others
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Unless you're here in KCK/KCMO and need a gigabit switch
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: do some googling and read reviews
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: what do you need? here is answer "Tech: wlan modem/router"
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Man, I love it when some answers regardincomputer hardware are actually simple. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuveas Tech: you said that your complex provides adsl...and that you have a coaxil cable for the provided adsl...you plug a wireless router into that and you can set up a network for your laptop to connect to
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you may also consider buying router that can be modded, I mean that supports custom software
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: you can always log into other peoples wlan and ignore your own :D
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger be all up in your windoze, stealing your internetz.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: most are encrypted or password protected
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: And for some people, that's only a mild irritation.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: Yeah, I wouldnt trust open ones, even in starbucks :P
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: can you still rebuild a raid 5 array even if you continue using the array in degraded form after losing a harddrive
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depend on controller / software
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but usually you can rebuild in background, though performance is degraded till rebuild finishes
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some controllers also allow to prioritize rebuild
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: damn printer cables' packed up
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh. trying to migrate to my new laptop and i can't figure out a way for exporting all my wifi profiles and importing them on the new machine
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: there's a way of doing it one by one, but i need to migrate ca 30 of them
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: anyone know what causes a blackberry browser to just keep 'loading' but nothing happens?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: poorly written pages?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: no, I can't view any pages, it has done it before then I just do a battery pull
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: anyone know macs?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just ask your question.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kyroarda Kyroda Tech: any decent apps on iphone for mudn?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Really R. Bigman Tech: they're against my rilijin!
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i normally play on my phone, but i was given an old 04 powerbook g4. i am trying in install wine so i can get mush. but i am so cunfused on what to actually install. its a rather large list and i dont understand any of it.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: so my question is, what package would work for me?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Is that hardware power PC or x86?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i dont know. is there some where i can find that info?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: wikipedia says it is ppc
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Wine Is Not an Emulator. No WINE on PPC for you.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: so what client should i use
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i found that info. says powerpc g4
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: (1.1)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: G4 Macs can't do MUSHclient (at least not without 10-year-old software that you won't be able to find)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I have one question with gmcp - how does one figure which gmcp variable holds the qt?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: tags spellups off
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: what client can i use?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: com.quest.time i think
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If you want x86 s/w in PPC, your only hope is an actual emulator (which will be slow.) Maybe Bochs or QEMU (not sure).
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or just save up for a raspberri pi and a tv :P
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: theres a good list of clients here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mac+mud+clients
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: thanks.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Should he ditch Mac OS and install MintPPC?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: to get mushclient on a G4 mac you'd have to find a copy of VirtualPC
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or softpc
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lol softpc. I remember running that on my Powermac 601
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Or go Linux...
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 6100?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: Macs still make me want to cry
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Linux on PPC won't help him run mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I have read the help files on spamreduce - but I am not able to reduce the pormpts from spells - anybody know how to do that please?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Linux won't have emulators?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: emulators aren't emulators...
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: linux will have virtual machines. that is not the same.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine emulates windows calls, not intel hardware...
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: I have used mushclient using wine on a linux distro
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine doesn't work to change processor architectures
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: welcome to the brave new world where nobody knows about 68k and PPC :\
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Flach Tech: The only Mac I've ever owned is sitting in my garage and begging to become a fish tank
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: QEMU will emulate x86 on PPC, theoretically.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, so you could try running an OS that runs qemu as a program, with an OS running inside that qemu and wine running on that OS to run mushclient...
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: who says qemu will emulate x86 on a G4?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also wine in the client OS would be silly if the client OS is windows
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: that will be like a window to a window ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: What's the syntax for targets in an alias for mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I... don't get it?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: What are you trying to target?
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You create the alias name, then add a * for each parameter afterwards.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: It shouldn't matter
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then, when you execute the alias, you use %# for each parameter.
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: * is a glob, or you can use regex if you want
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So for instance, alias k *, then: Send("backstab %1")
T3/r7/2012-12-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Wonderful, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: who usues winkles scripts pst
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: who usues winkles scripts pst
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: anyone??
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: WHO USUS winkle plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elxi points excitedly at WinkleWinkle!
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: hes not here
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Yet his title is.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Just saying, if you're not getting a response. Perhaps write him a note and wait a while.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: can i load the backup/
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how can i load a backup?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Seriously, Electrobite, shouting out for answers isn't going to help you out.  Your best bet is to write a note on tech board if you're having an issue.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Haha, Apple refuses to work on computers exposed to secondhand smoke. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: They're going to have to stop making them in China then.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In fact, they say that secondhand smoke voids the warranties with Apple computers. Apparently, the secondhand smokes leaves ash after it evaporates. Heh.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: How can something that evaporates leave ash?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: can i ask how do i change font size of the text?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: cos its realli small right now
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Krolm Tech: are you using "mushclient" Wuchen?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: yes i am usng mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: maranus has helped me.. the output is now bigger, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: since i m not using aardwolf customized mushclient.. if i download the customized.. n install it.. will it overwrite my older mushclient n erase everything on it>
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard mushclient is not installed, it's just a zipfile
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Just install into a new folder
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: not if you keep the appropriate files - make a backup
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since it's a zipfile and not an installer, it also won't touch shortcuts in the start menu/programs, so that'll still point to the old
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: i c.. so i should unzip n install onto a separate folder.. not the mushclient that i already haf.. so that i can retain the settings in my older mushclient, is that correct?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: aahh.. i c.. is is advisable not to install over the older mushclient.. for the aardwolf mushclient that it.. sori.. im new to mudding n aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wuchen Tech: =h
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I would advise against copying the aardwolf mushclient package over a non-aardwolf mushclient setup. You are likely to decide (wrongly) that you think a file isn't important when it is.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: anyone familiar with web site building and perhaps joomla?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: what causes my pc to use so many internet data, its moving like crazy
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Too much pornography...or not enough
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ashiya Tech: virus or malware probably
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: ahh, nevermind, google update
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Hmm, so apparently there is no OnPluginLoad hook in mushclient, what's the equivalent that is actually callex?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: called*
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: OnPluginInstall?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: OnPluginEnable?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Either will work in this case, ty
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: pull up bast's miniwin example plugin, it probably has stub code for the various hooks.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: or you could go here: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=plugin_callbacks
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Interesting, all I have is function OnPluginEnable(msg, id, name text) Send("echo OnPluginEnable") end and it's not firing when I enable/reinstall the plugin.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: Cheezburger: try using print() instead of sending something to the mud
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: also, that callback may not be called when you install the plugin, what if you disable/reenable it?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In MC is there a way to spawn a variable from a plugin that the user can edit in their variable dialog? Ie, SetVariable() in a global script will do it, but SetVariable in a plugin will not.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I've never seen that done, I always just see them edit it using an alias within the plugin.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: This might be helpful: http://www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=1642
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: you can also create your own dialog from one of the functions here: http://www.gammon.com.au/scripts/doc.php?general=lua_utils
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: I'd go that route, or the aliases within the plugin route really.  I'd like to think of the variables in the the variable box of mushclient as the ones I use.  I'd expect a plugin to use their own and edit it through the plugin itself.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: uh, my stats aren't showing up for some reason, i'm using MUSHclient
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: WHat do you mean stats?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Stat window?  Health/TNL/ALign bars?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: statmonitor?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: in the MUSHclient that I have, there is a bigmap window, the small map window, stats window, communication log
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: statmonitor yes
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: So the stats window isn't showing up?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: weird, it just popped up
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grumpy Old Oladon Tech: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc748
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: In MC, i have an alias that takes two arguments the first is a channel, the second is a value. Only a certain set of channels are allowed, so the trigger looks like"^tchan (gt|ft|ct) (\.*?)$", besides the fact that i'm ending with a wildcard-anchor, what else is wrong because %1 is returning nil, and %2 is returning the correct value.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: and i know the trigger works because tchan gt foobar will work, and tchan st foobar will not.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What do you m ean gt foobar will work, and tchan st foobar will not?  Do you want tchan st foobar to work?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if this is in a plugin: if you tprint(wildcards) what does it look like? (you have to require "tprint" in your plugin)
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No, i want to know why %1 is 'nil' instead of 'gt' on the alias that does fire.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: it's embedded in the <send></send>, not being used as a callback
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So i don't have reference to 'wildcards'.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Wierd that is giving nil and not the value in %2
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Does "^tchan (?:(gt|ft|ct)) (.*?)$"
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: work
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: wait the is the opposite of what you want the (?: say you don't want the capture...
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I want it to ONLY work on ct, gt, and ft
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: huh
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: but I also want the %1 to hold ct so i know which argument it was sent to.
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: your trigger is ^tchan (gt|ft|ct) (.*?)$ in regex?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: your trigger is ^tchan (gt|ft|ct) (\.*?)$ in regex?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, but without the \, that was a typo
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: ah nod
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: well i just wrote the one with \ in mush and it works fine
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: maybe you have some other trigger messing with it
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: can't imagine why, but i'll look
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: without*
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: did you mean to put the \ before the .? If i create the alias "^tchan (gt|ft|ct) (.*?)$" and push it to a function wildcards is fine
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you are using %1 and %2 in quotes right?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I have them inside a tostring() and tonumber() respectively, i still need quotes then?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: try it
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: i don't use %1 because it's messy
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: but it might be looking for a variable called %1
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or something
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: or extract to a local var first
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: got it working
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: needed local ch = tostring("%1") instead of local ch = tostring(%1)
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: anyone familiar with SMF?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Are there any level or quest tracker plugins for mush around?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: finger bast
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Finger bast
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: that tickles
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tzadkiel Tech: was thinking ud be a lil tender about now :P
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: Gonna d/l and run Bast's plugins...anyone know if they conflict with anything from winkle's stuff?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: I haven't had any problems
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: ty for the info. will give it a go. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: can anyone help me figure put how to add scripts on mudlet
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I can't wait for Blackberry 10!!!!!
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: how do i change the echo of my chat? how do i turn that off?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: chats echo off
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: am i typing it wrong it doesnt seem to be working
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: dunno. afaik it works for mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: at least it used to. dunno, don't use it myself
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i use mudlet. but i thought i saw a thing about it somewhere just dont know where can cant find it
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Summoner Yuna Tech: What is MVO and DVO and why do so many Russian rips of movies feature them as characteristics?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Is there an option for bast's level tracker to have a channel output?
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: That I'm not seeing
T3/r7/2012-12-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/351787-What-is-MVO-and-DVO
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: installed bast's spellup plugin and i get error whenever i try to do an add with the miniwindow or anything with spells/skills at all. any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: reinstall it
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: have tried that but i will give it another go.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: ty, must have installed them in the wrong order somehow, had to reinstall the broadcast file, not the miniwindow.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: hello!
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: looking for linux client recommendations
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: looking for linux client recommendations
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lo
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: using mudlet right now
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: arch user
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: tinyfugue baby :)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want a GUI, the only answer is MUSHclient (but I use tinyfugue)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: gmud with some modifications would be best, if you know how to program it
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: i use tinyfugue, command line junkie
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rofl, gmud
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: can you get the mini map and player stat displays using tinyfugue?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: teach me obi wan
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but nowhere near as easily or slick as the aard mushclient package
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chemosh Tech: mushclient comes with things like internet protocols that have nothing to do with interpreting the game in it, so they could have trojan horse and other access in it
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ummmm
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Straeldryn Tech: disregard that statement =D
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: anyone have a link to linux aard mushclient package?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all competent MUD clients have other protocols, and mushclient (as well as tinyfugue, tintin++ and mudlet) are opensource
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the aard mushclient package's home is http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I suggest clicking the "wiki" tab
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: so looks like you have to run mushclient in wine
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: what distro are you playing from
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xorek Tech: ?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: doesn't matter, works fine from all
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: works also on raspian :)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: Dear Abelinc, silly tf question - but how does one gag a coloured line?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the attribute -ag gags
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: could you give a simple example please?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /def -mregexp -ag -t'^This is something I don't ever want to see on a line by itself$' gag-weird-text =
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: can I do something similar with /gag?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually for that line I would've have bothered to make it regex, since glob is slightlymore efficient...even when you don't have any real macro stuff, still always include a "name-for-macro =", just to make the macro named...that way you can redefine it easily...otherwise, if you noticed you left out a word, and re-did /def -mregexp -ag -t'blah blah again', it would leave both copies
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gag is basically a shortcut...it's really just doing the "/def -ag -t"
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /gag doesn't let you use other pattern matching types, or other advanced stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: thanks so much :) - will try and reduce the spell line spams :)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this weekend I'll try to get the nimstats.tf file cleaned up and posted...it combines combat spells into a single line
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: -t
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Is there something special needed to be done to use an alias in another alias for mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: the Execute() function
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: processes the text as if you typed it, in contrast to Send() or Queue() which send directly
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lizza Tech: Anyone know how to put comments into Mushclient Alias scripts?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What does it mean when aardmush starts spitting out SQl error saying the DB is locked? A full quit/re-open seems to have solved the issue, but for future reference?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: bast's mneq windows wont pop up unless i reload the plugins all the time. any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Alright! I've got my router up and running. Now a q on security: Is it easy to override the normal 68bit(if I recall correctly) WEP?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: as in can someone hack into my router and be stealing my interwebz
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: obviously yes, but is it likely?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: WEP is easily crackable.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: do your neighbors seem shady?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: a bunch of asians..
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Yeah, well, it just takes a couple of hours (best case) or a couple of seconds (worst case) to get it open... AND the information is easy to find.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol i doubt people that look shady are the ones that are likely to crack your security
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: What should I do? What do you guys do to keep a router "clean?"
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: wpa2
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: do any of your neighbors look overly geeky?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: As I said: A bunch of asians.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is a much better profile
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: do you see them carrying laptop bags alot?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: As I said: A bunch of asians.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so ninjas?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Nah, just asians.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: whew
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: So WPA2 it is.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is about as good as it gets
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you can turn off ssid broadcast also
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: make sure your routers default ip and password are changed too
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: not admin/admin?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is netgear right?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I thought dlink
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: Yeah, that I did the minute I got the thing running (offline of course)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I got TP-link
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: really if someone wants to get your wifi they will but it will take them a while
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: stands for Teen Pirates I think
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: though my dlink needs to be physically reset everytime i need to log into it, which I might say is a pain in the bottomside.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: make your wpa2 password really long and they will eventually give up on cracking it
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: really not a fan of dlink
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: we have like 12 dlink dir 330 vpn routers for work and they suck
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it was cheap and unless someone is willing to sit in my driveway i'm not concerned, then I guess they can use my internet and perhaps view family photos.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: how long can a WPA2 password be?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Arbitrarily long, I think. 
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's just hashed anyways - excessive length won't do anything special.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya long enough that you probalby don't have to worry about it
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Make SURE you disable the WPS (Wifi Protected Setup). It makes WPA2 crackable too.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: at work ours is like 20 characters or more
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: SSID broadcast trick is weak defense
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: does it matter what encryption I use for wpa2?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: The length of MD5 is what, 32 characters? this means 32 is about the maximum sane length for a WPA2 password :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: TKIP vs AES?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: I think AES was better...
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Not sure by how much, though. I'd stick with AES.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: and what's the Radius server? or should I go with WPA-PSK
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: WPA2-PSK I mean
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: PSK, definitely
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: PSK means "password" :-) The other option is for enterprise certificate thingamajigs.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: Make sure you disable WPS!
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: PSK stands for pre-shared key actually :P
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: what the world needs is more acronyms
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: not sure how you get password from psk...
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cizra Tech: By applying a method named Common Sense, Myrkul.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: there's no k in password :P how is that common sense?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: I updated my aardmush...... and it reset my maps..
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: omg
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: did you follow the upgrade instructions on the aardwolf site?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: there were instructions?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: yes :P
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: I just did it like I do bast's :*(
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: http://www.aardwolf.com/play/downloadmc.htm
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hakuna Sakata Tech: that doesn't help me now :(
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Squillo Tech: anyone know of a good site to download mobile movies ? mp4 format?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not any legal sites, anyway, and we don't talk about illegal sites on here.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: is there a way to set the width of a line
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: anyone know why c and p would take spacing out of notes?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Help notes.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That doesn't really answer his question. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Help Etzli.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He's talking about copy/pasting.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: not an answer, turie :P
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can't paste tab characters into notes, for one
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you need to hit enter for a blank line
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Mokg.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just send  instead of a line break
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just send @w instead of a line break
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's what I do. I don't copy/paste my notes though. I write them up in an editor using a "format" function that'll automatically format to 79 characters based on word. Then I hit 'send' and it'll send all lines there. But I have to put @w for line breaks.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: there is also aardwolf.com/note.php
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Still have to do @w for line breaks.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I'm on my phone is why I'm even asking.  so just putting the @w will be enough?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Still need a line break workaround, Xaer
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But I use my function as it's a bit more accessible than having to go a webpage. ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: @w evaluates to a non-character, so it's an empty line.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Wreck-It Roninleader.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thanks guys. ill try that out
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I send email from phone, it sends it to me too
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can't remember wtf the fix for that was
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: stop ccing yourself?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm not ccing myself
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Some email programs auto cc the sender, though
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I added a cc so I know there was only one name, wasn't mine either
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: How do you increase the buffer limit on Mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I found where it shows what the limit is, but nowhere to increase it.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: is there a auto drink poiton, like 20% hp drink tripple mending ?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: you can script that, but be careful, thats one more step towards botville.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: how to get rid of [Fighting: 2317/4177hp 2493/2493mn 2481/2481mv 947tnl Enemy: 1% ]> this line
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: prompt
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Is there a way to see what wireless channel all my idiot neighbours are using?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Or is it not that important to choose a unique channel?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: if theres tons of networks on the same channel youre all going to lose effective bandwidth
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: its basically like you and all your neighbors are sharing the same wire
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: If your router has a site survey or something then you may be able to see the channel of other networks.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Does it make sense to anyone that changing my wireless channel from 6 (crowded nearby) to 9 (no others) would increase the speed but also result in intermittent loss of connection?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: who makes your router?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: chinese children
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: also the channels are somewhat misleading.  theres really only a few channels its recommended to use i think
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: 1 6 11 and 14.  t
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: try 11 instead of 9
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can use nnsider to find out what channels your neighbors are using.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: 9 is actually going to overlap with 6 so youre not getting any benefit
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: did we lose him? :p
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my aard client somehow doesnt the map anymore.  how to fix?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which map? the one with the boxes or with the text symbols?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: somehow doesn't the map!
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try "mapper show" if the one with the boxes (and presuming it's doesn't show the map)
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: the one where I can like click room names or something
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: has anyone gotten the auto-prac function from bast's update to work? I can't get it turned on 
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Amarufox Tech: try taking it out for dinner
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone know of a photo greeting card custom creation place that lets you make/send one offs instead of buying sets of 20?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: like this? http://www.zazzle.com/single+photocards
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: never used it before and i wouldn't be surprised if that was just the price per card when you buy a bunch
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they're liars
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i guess that happens on the internet. things that sound good end up being chained to crap
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sorry. i had heard from someone that they used them once
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone own a samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1" ?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Not the 10, but i have the 7
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you like it?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: love it
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Goes good with my gs3
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: does it have 3g?
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: wifi only
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: kk. don't really care about 3g anyway stupid contracts
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I have a 4g data cap on my phone, but I'm always around wifi so much that I'm lucky to top 0.2GB by the end of the month, so i figured wifi only would be enough for me. So far it has been.
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya i am not too worried about 3g since i am in a city. 
T3/r7/2012-12-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: can i turn this off [3393/4336hp 2616/2616mn 781/2739mv 29qt 210tnl] ?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can, sure.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Type prompt
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And bprompt for battle prompt.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cavelord Tech: thanks Etzli
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anmorata Tech: Can anyone help me....I switched clients and now things are showing up strangely for me
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're seeing tags.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You have two options, really.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Tags off (or tags quiet) will turn off all tags. If you have triggers dependent on some of them, you may want to do 'tags <tagname> off' instead.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Typing 'tags' will show you what tags you have on.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anmorata Tech: ahhh okay, thank you!
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm guessing you switched from MUSH to something else. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anmorata Tech: Exactly lol
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Common issue. ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Anmorata Tech: all fixed now, thanks again :)
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smiles happily.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: MushClient - Lua - PANIC: Not enough memory available for operation.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Total RAM used by MushClient? 8gb :D
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: wtf
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: A new record!
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: reboot
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: that's ridonk
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: seem like memory leak or some plugin allocate to much memory
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Oh, Mush is RIDDLES with memory leaks, though I think it is more the plugins, specifically their dodgy use of sqlite
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: riddled, even
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: 401k here and I've had mine open for months
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: botting too many chars?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I do know Bast's statdb opens multiple connections to the sqlite db, as I've seen 10-15 open connections after leaving on for a few days
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I only use stock+S&D
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: And I believe the backup system might just be leaving connections open to the backups as well
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Aren't plugins written in lua. And doesn't lua have gc? (Not using mush myself)
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Lua has garbage collection for itself, but it relies on things going out of scope - the sqlite functionality is a C library, and db connections (which seem to just rip the whole DB into RAM) never go out of scope, they require a call to close, or the engine closing
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: oic.. that's a nasty design
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It also appears I have a chat log going back 2 years or so :-P wonder whether they use an efficient append on that one o.0
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I renamed the old one and started a new one after it got to 100 megs
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Being a programmer I should probably know how to do this, but I wonder if it would be possible to hack apart a program's RAM usage, and see if there were repeated patterns, perhaps get lucky with some plaintext
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably you could use some debugger like softice
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: dbmalloc
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Does that require the application to be compiles with debug info included, though?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: compiled*
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: most types of these tool require hooks when compliling, not just debug info
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for dbmalloc I suppose yes, for softice no - though will get asm in such case
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Right - see I wouldn't be fussed with execution, just to take a snapshot of the current allocated RAM, and analyse it for repeated blocks, and see if anything which was repeated was reconizable, ie chat data, mapper, stats, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You can't really make any valid analysis of leaks without having the source code and being able to compile it anyeays.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: With that, I could then narrow it down to a single plugin. Once I do that I can optimize it myself, assuming it's a plugin and not the application or lua/sqlite implementation itself
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: much easier would be just start with 0 plugins (or stock ones) and observe memory while adding new plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. And then just check the code once you find a way to reproduce the memory leak.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Reading code is probably the most common way to find memory leaks, (once you narrow it down).
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I've tried that, but unfortunately it blows out after a few days, not in any convenient timeframe
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Welcome to the world of testing.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Looking here, it seems a workflow of FTK Imager, Audit Viewer, and Memoryze will get me the raw data, but if I want to trawl it for patterns I'll have to whip something up myself
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Testing I can do in spades :-P This seems more along the lines of a core dump, which I don't touch with a 100 ft pole!
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: http://herouxapps.com/wordpress/archives/7374
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: anyway, problem may be not in plugin itself, there are some memory leaks in previous versions in mushclient itself
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: like: Fixed a major memory leak in Lua scripting. In previous versions, all calls to "world" functions which returned a string (eg. world.GetVariable) would leak memory.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anybody know what can cause program to say it is not a valid win32 appilication
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: lack of vc redist libraries
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not being a valid win32 application?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Your best bet is probably to find a minimum way to reproduce it, and then make a bug report about it.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Muddude Tech: anyone with experience with keyboard (especially numpad) mappings?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so try installing Microsoft Visual C++ 2010/2008/2005 Redistributable Package
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: ahk - autohotkey. Solves all problems, even things you didn't know were problems
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Either that, or mushclient ctrl+shift+1 or help accelerators
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but there is mushclient source on github so you probably could compile it with memory tracing libraries
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mushclient is open source? Hrm, that might do it...
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: what's the command to check my aardmush version?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: checkversion
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ok is there an easy to get r1723 resized so i don't see blank spaces?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: eay way...
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or is it just manually resize the windows...
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Introduction?tm=6
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Read through the wiki.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: manual it is then :P
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: fyi, there's nothing i can see about resizing windows on that site :P\
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/AboutMiniwindows
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: It is the image with green on it.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: fyi
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how to do you make a trigger to qutoequip a weapon if you are disarmed
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you make a trigger
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: noone responds on tech
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: What are you trying to trigger?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: to requip my weapon if i am disarmed
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Have you read this? http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Go to bast, download his plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: im trying to set up a trigger sound but its not workin any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: im trying to set up a trigger sound but its not workin any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: so...is there any way to make a vodacom 3g modem work with a cell c simcard? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i dont think so
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: bummer
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Periphery Tech: can anyone help with a mushclient trigger?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: when I send mail from phone, outlook on laptop receives it
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone know how to fix that
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: tried to make a autorequip on disarm trigger but it is not working help plz
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, that's too little information to even try helping you.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: First, what client are you on?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Second, what did you try to use as a trigger?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you have been disarmed
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is that the actual trigger message?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: DISARMS you that is the trigger i used and i copied it from the actual happening
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: For 1, there's 2 possible disarm messages
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you only used "DISARMS you", then it's going to fail, as MUSH is looking for that message alone, IIRC.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ^(.*?) DISARMS you and sends your weapon flying.$ and ^(.*?) DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon$
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: with a period on the end of the second one
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Doesn't reeeeally matter, but you should use \. instead of .
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: When your weapon is sent flying, you'll want to get the weapon before wielding it, unless it's an Aardweapon.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks hopefully it will work :)
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What are you sending when you recieve that message?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: wear bow
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: MUSH has a test trigger function if you hit shift+ctrl+f12
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Test it with "Cheezburger DISARMS you struggle not to drop your weapon"
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: The first trigger I gave you was wrong. It's ^(.*?) DISARMS you and sends your (.*?) flying.$
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: nope still not working
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: can you creat macros in MUSHclient if things like ALT+C aren't already on the macro list?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/Macros
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Look up accelerators.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: With them you can do keys even mush doesn't allow by default
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fiendish has answered all MUSHclient questions pre-emptively on the aard mushclient site :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kajitin Tech: okay thank you guys so much. i was going through and wondered. thanks for the link!
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish yawns.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anyone know how to find a historic stream of bbc radio?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: is 3mbps good for bluetooth dongle?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: is the newest version of Mush 1723?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone else having trouble with it?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I am not.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I cant seem to see anything in my main window, other than what Im inputting and occasionally my prompt, although all the other windows are working
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm I have tried several different approaches and nothing seems to be working
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: for some reason when I uninstalled my older version of mushclient and installed the new version from the site I cant see anything in the main window except what Im inputting and occasionally my prompt, well except for the intro screen
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: have you quit and restarted mushclient since this started?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: yes several times
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: all the mini windows are working perfectly just the main window acting up
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it is the miniwindows acting up, it just manifests itself as main window ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: well thats not confusing at all :p
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: miniwindows get their info by reading the main window and hiding what they see from you...
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ahh I see, thats where GMCP comes in right?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the miniwindow plugins is hiding the info from the main window because it hasn't seen the "end of the stuff I'mlooking for" message
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nah, gmcp actually bypasses this limitation as it's not text that would ever be displayed
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oic, sadly what I see is that Im clueless :p
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the usual culprit for that behavior is people adding all of bast's stuff at once
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I think I removed most of what I had downloaded in the last client although I think it still gave the invmon list when I opened I think
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try "bimon reload"
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nothing :(
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ok, try "plugins reload all"
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no change
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: reinstall Aardwolf_Main_Layout I think that is the plugin for it.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: my main window shows nothing sometimes if I don't have pagesize 0 set when my plugins load
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: reinstalling didnt change it, how do I set pagesize?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "pagesize 0"
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: nope still nothing
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with pagesize still at zero, I'd quit and restart mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: ok brb
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: hmm still nothing
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I get output until it displays the prompt for the first time then nothing, I get the intro screen, all the invmon stuffs then the clan intro msg, room name all the way to first prompt then it stops
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: I have lost my communications window, and even though I reinstalled it, it remains gone how do I get it back
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I believe theres a command if your using MUSH, aardreset or something like that.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: try resetaard
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats it.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or just "chats show"
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: anyone have a link to a previous version of aardmush
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just download the current one
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I tried that twice, I dont think the new one likes my computer
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't jump to adding plugins to it or copying over your world file...just the database file
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not aardmush that's doing this, ulrich, it's the plugins you're ADDING to it
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: Im not adding any plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you are, in one way or another
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've already talked about the inventory plugin...that can't get there by itself
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: I deleted all the old stuff I had and did a direct download from the website, unless there is an old plugin hidden somewhere
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: deleting stuff is about as stupid as it gets...
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: well insulting me isnt helping
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no other way to state it...aard's mushclient doesn't "install", it creates a folder
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: then you probably shouldnt ask Abe for help...
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: just sayin
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: deleting one before another is working is utterly stupid
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He didn't insult you. He just said deleting stuff is just as stupid as you can get. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's like selling your car on the way to the dealership
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you'd deleted your previous mushclient, that also means that all your exploring and mapper setup would go poof
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or did you expect the new one to somehow clairvoyantly know your setup
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: no I saved my mapper file in a seperate directory as well as all the aliases I had previously set, but if you are going to be a jerk and constantly talk to me condescendingly you can stop trying to "help"
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you also copied plugins and reinstalled them...
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've already stated that you did
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if you can't learn and listen without pouting and throwing hissy fits, you're right, I can stop trying to help
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but in the time you've been here whining, you could've opened up a fresh untainted MUSHclient to see that I'm fully correct
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: there is a way to help in a respectful way understanding that not everyone may spend their free time programming, and that some people may not have the vast knowledge that you obviously have
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or read directions
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Its not worth it Ulrich.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or ever listen, or give straight answers without trying to interpreting...when they don't have the knowledge to interpret correctly
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: so you are saying that without installing any of the files that I saved in other directories when I installed 1723 it read my entire computer and installed what it thought I wanted in there
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm saying you didn't allow it to do the former
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: well since I never overwrote the mapper file it comes installed with or re input any of the aliases I copied into a notepad file, then I fail to see how it is using a plugin that may or may not be installed in another directory somewhere, when I did nothing but a fresh install of the client from the site like a new user and I was going to manually overwrite the mapper and manually input the aliases later, I never touched 1723 I put it into a completely different directory than any previous versions were in and started it
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: for all those that offered helpful, non degrading advice I have been able to get my client up and running again thanks for trying to help me through kit, everyone else can stop being such a self righteous jerk and use a little tact next time or just stay out of it
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: doesn't sound terribly christmassy to me
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oh and merry christmas :)
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: maybe santa has some skin toughner for you this year.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: oh my skin is tough enough thanks, I will not be pushed around 
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You tell Ulrich to "Kwitcherbitchin"! 
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type tech -h, please point out where anyone attempted to push you around
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ulrich Tech: Im not going to get into a full blown argument with you, in your own little way Im sure you meant well, and genuinely were trying to help, so I will just say thanks and merry christmas and move on
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if i've already explored a room area, what's the command to automatically go there in the mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: like if i have the room name
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper find <roomname>, then mapper goto <roomnumber>
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: also, how do i turn on the little ascii map that i used to have on mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: ah that's it, thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the ascii mapper, is the window there at all?
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: but it used toobe
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: file -> plugins, see if Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper is in the list, and that the last thing in its line is "Yes"
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: true
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, make sure it's not just behind some other miniwindow
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: oh, it was
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: that happened to me, it was behind another window
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: somehow the mbig map window was "hidden" behind my tiny stats window
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it was the nargles
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: shoddy design.
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not to be confused with the yarbles
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: thanks abelinc
T3/r7/2012-12-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, shoddy design to allow you full control over how you want your own to look
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the default miniwindows in the aardwolf client package have customizable Z-order
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nezeltep Tech: Hey, if I pin the Aardowlf client to my taskbar, will it always load up when I click it again?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: How do I remove a portal to an area for mush's mapper?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: oh cool thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also, finger fiendish and go to his site on aard mushclient package (it's also linked on the page on aard's website where you download the client...he's the one that makes it)
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone use LAN over AC power?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: less efficient than AC power due to the lower voltage
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: i think. but iunno
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Not using it to transfer power, but rather transmit LAN over power lines
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: google will have tons of info on it.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As my router -> usb wifi receiver -> computer solution's usb 2.0 speed cap is causing me to die of old age before I can copy things to and from my storage server :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Well yes, too much in fact, and I haven't found the correct spiel of search terms for what I'm after just yet
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Wanting to find out if the signal will propogate across separately fused circuits
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ya, i tried googeling it, and it seemed like there was a ton of info
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: As the part of the house the router is in is on a different breaker than where my computer is :-(
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: with the mapper cexits function, is there a way to lengthen the 2s wait period?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: wait() ?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: yes mapper cexit_wait tim
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: thanks :)
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: or read mapper help
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, ethernet over powerlines do not work (typically) if they are on separate fuses.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And, from what I have heard, it rarely works well.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: just buy a spool of cat5e cable, and wire up your house
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: works well if you know how to do it
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: is it normal that aard takes 40kb per 30 min?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sounds a little low, but about typical
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: 400 kb i ment
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: It sounds about right, 1.2kb per minute is about 20ish bytes a second.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Multiply that by 10 then.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't know what GMCP is like, but that does seem a lot to me. Are you always fighting though?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: not always
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: So I've got another question.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I have a TV with an ethernet port. What do I do with an ethernet port on a TV?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: depend on TV
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: some allows you internet browsing, some firmware upgrade
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Varas Tech: I'm wondering if I could somehow benefit from Netflix, but it hasn't got a wireless receptor, and I forgot my DVI cable at home. -_-
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: look up the tv owner's manual online
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: can i set mush to archive my chatlogs and star new chatlogs in new text docs? my comp lags when i load my log file cuz its so big.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: like a new log every month?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: or maybe by size?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: is my explored mapper saved to my mapper plgin in wordls/plugins?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: No, it's saved to a sqlite database seperate from the plugin or your world file.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Look for Aardwolf.db in the top level of your MUSHclient folder.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: ty
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Metabee Tech: is there a way to reset my mapper portals?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read 'mapper help'
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cody: the the log plugin itself won't do that for you, but you can do it 
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ok thanks, ya thats what i been doing, just rename the file and mush makes a new one right away ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you could add another script to do it for you automatically
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: note
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oops
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: anyone using mudlet or know mudlet that can give some help with triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyukek Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyukek Tech: how many techies around?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Just ask your question, this is a MUD afterall.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Depends on what you need.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: toughest question on tech channel
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hellion Tech: an the tech channel prevails
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oyukek Tech: just found out i don't have to do rite clicking and copying without colors, all my chat were save under log folder, hehe
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: can someone help me out with mudlet triggers
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I have some weird trigger that I can't find
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: on mush
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it sends a command but I it's not echoed
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which part of it is in question...what it's doing or what it's triggering on?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's doing 'map'
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "echocommands" to see what the MUD sees being sent
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, that's on foo opens bar
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: any line with "opens" in it will send map
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's to update the ascii mapper when someone opens a door
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: can this be disabled
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: some doors in I see the map, it's retarded
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, it's actually on "You open *" and "You close *"
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: oh I see it in this plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: match="* closes*."
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could modify the ascii mapper plugin to remove those trigs, or could turn off ascii mapper capture
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you mod the plugin, make a note to yourself about it for the next time you upgrade ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you comment a block, like /* sdfsdfsdf */
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or even better, submit a feature request on fiendish's page that it be toggleable with a right-click on the mapper
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll just comment those, it's pointless
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: sense anger - > map
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: in inferno when 30 people door in it trolls me all day
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: --[  works
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: actually....
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'll just set enabled to n
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: cool
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: on mudlet to match (.*) for multi lines is multilinematches[l][n]. but that command keeps coming up. does anyone know how to fix that?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i have been working on this for days andmy ocd wont let me stop till i figure it out. someone please help me!
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I dunno how mudlet works
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what "command" keeps coming up?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in general, you don't want multiline matches
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is nothing in Aard which cannot be done without them
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: here is what comes off as my quest trigger.. I have received my 
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: opps
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: use GMCP
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: mob: multilinematches[2][3]
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: not the mob name..
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: comm.quest { "action": "start", "targ": "a red dragon whelp", "room": "Proving Ground", "area": "Hatchling Aerie", "timer": 53 }
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, the mobname
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i dont understand what you want me to do with gmcp
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mudlet grabs GMCP info and puts it into variables...that means you don't need a trigger...
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://forums.mudlet.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1547
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: oh, i have an older macbook or powerbook, whatever it is. i cant use the latest mudlet. im one step down
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vxx Tech: on mush there is a possible way to set timer that informs u can get another Santa card?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how can I download an mp3 from google drive to phone
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Copy it over.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: obviously I can't find the option
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Select the file and make it available offline.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it saves it in some temp folder I want to download it to a specific folder
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You will need to the app File Manager. You can move it around with that on your phone.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: are you accessing google drive using the program or via a browser?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where your browser saves files is set according to your browser's preferences
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: using the app from the phone
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: maybe I should try the browser instead
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Using the Google Drive App, make it available offline, and use the File Manager Apps to locate and move the file.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: That is what I do.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, from a phone is a whole other matter
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: so gay
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I open from browser, it downloads with some random generated name
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: then I can see it from my music app but can't rename
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Trez: Is this on an Android OS or iOS?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: android
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I don't know why they didn't add the option
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: You can use File Manager to rename the file.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I'm just looking for a way that's not a pain in the ass :P
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Connect your phone to your computer and transfer the files into your music folder.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I'll just plug the cable and dl from laptop
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye just gdrive sounded more pro at the time
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: like dropbox is amazing
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: anybody have a moment for a zmud question regarding strings?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sure
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: what is the syntax to clear a variable of all entries in a string?
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: varname = ""
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can also use the #variable command, which would go something like so: #var varname {}
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in zmud, the type of bracketing isn't important, so long as it's there.  All they're used for is to ensure stuff is regarded as a single group instead of relying on the space to break up possible arguments.
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: the first one worked, building a temporary list in a separate window for campaigns
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they're interchangeable. ;P
T3/r7/2012-12-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lysdexic Tech: got time for more zmud questions?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: For slower to move custom exits like going to the genie lamp in shoar, how would one work that into mush's mapper?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: how do i make a xml file from pastebin?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't use pastebin to make an xml file.
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pastebin is for pasting text for others to view, and you can syntax-highlight it based on language.
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: aard mush client, how do i get the map to update? not bigmap, area map.
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: automap ?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: not that one either. 
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: heh, ill figure it out eventually
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarLord Mars Tech: Anyone who is familiar with android tablets, I've got a question for you. I bought one, and purchased a song on google play, where do I find the song on the tablet after I've purchased it, or do I have to download it. Seems like a dumb question but I'm a newbie to tablets
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kerith Tech: anyone remember off the top of their head what the CLI version to check uptime on windows?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Does it make sense that changing my wireless channel from 6 (several neighbors shared) to 9 (closest neighbor is one at 11) would increase my speed but also result in frequent connection loss?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: potentially yes
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it means you have a crappy router
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or crappy computer
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well yes, I knew that already ... :)
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Using a little linksys usb dongle for my desktop
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it should help is interferences are not too strong
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try the other direction, like 3
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: 3 is kinda crowded too...and this is in a single-family home neighborhood!
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your router or dongle may just not be doing the right thing in the 9 frequency band
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: read this mush http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wittle Naer Tech: I am in need of a web developer.  I will pay hoards of Aard gold for one!  Let me know if you think you're able to help me out. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Is there a equivalent to 'whois' that checks zone files?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Never mind, silly question. I wanted to check if a CNAME change I had made on the backend was recorded anywhere.
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Guess I just have to wait :P
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you check that with nslookup? 
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am only playing aard but my something is using like a mb a min and it cant be aard any ideas
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: phone or pc?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: pc
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: if its windows you can look on task manager
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have cant see anything out of the ordinary
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Go to Task Manager, Performance, Resource manager, then click on the network tab
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: will show you processes with network activity
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: my svchost is using 2000 bytes a sec
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats not much
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: thats 2kb per sec
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: if theres nothing big in that list then its something else on your network
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it slowed down now and i stressed because i only have a 250 MB bundle at the moment
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: are you the only device on your network?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: can anybody help me with the aardowlf settings for mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: i have a couple of questions
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is good channel to ask your questions
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: better just to ask tho and if someone knows they will answer.
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: well i've been messing around with the windows disposition, how can i restore them to default without download again mushclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: user resetaard 
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I totally misread that.
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use 'resetaard' to reset to default settings
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: oh, ok, thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: why does my communication los show the stuff i said after someone talked on the channel?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in an attempt to answer the question, I would think it's because you responded to what they were saying...
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: why is it so hard to find a low end cheap mobo. grr, anyone have some good sites to check
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: LGA 1366
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it's easy to find a low end cheap one...oh, you wanted it to be good as well? ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: nope dont want it to be good at all
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just operational :)
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just prefer LGA1366 socket
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: apparently that socket type came and went with a quickness, newegg/tigerdirect have like 3boards each but they are 250-500
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: looks like its cheaper to just buy a 1155 + new cpu
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ya, but it seems like a waste of an i7 930
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: new age i5's are faster than a first gen i7 by quite a bit
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: i series CPUs are on 3rd generation now. intel sucks at numbering
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: ill just see if i can find a cheap board/cpu combo then - just running my media server/webserver/etc
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your best $ to performance ratio will be from an AMD FX 8350 or 8320
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, one of aard's MUDders compiled tinyfugue on a raspberry pi :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can't be that hard
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: where do you see it though?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pi has hdmi and composite
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not quite what I meant
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I meant where did you see the info about the tf compile
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, tells
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: <- Abe
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh that reminds me
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have a research problem for people
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: now i know it doesnt work smoothly with windows - will mint be operational just dropping the OS drive into another machine 
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: heh
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}YOU GOT A! Wittle Tech: anyone here uses xbox live?
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Anyone know of a good reference page for common C++ coding conventions? Every one I find seems to say different things.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: how do we use the new inventory window?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: soo.. my tick timer in the bottem left has stopped working. im using Mushclient so how do i fix it x.x
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: does 'resetaard' help?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: or just reloading client/
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: ill try that now
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: and its still stuck..
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: nevermind i found the problem
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: what was it?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: i turned my timers off cuz i wanted to test a trigger that would do the same thing. i just forgot to turn back on is all.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmmm, 'resetaard' just made my map go poof
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: lol well good luck with that >.> not my area of expertise
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: hmm found it
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ryu Tech: "Access violation at address 00DE7..."  Trying to load up my CMUD, anyone know what this problem is?  Wont let me open aardwolf
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zoroark Tech: when I get spammed by TRACE: Executing Plugin Repaint_Buffer script "OnPluginTick" in the aardwolf mushclient setup how do i stop it?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Easy answer: Disable the plugin that's causing the error.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone know how to updage the mush client run in wine on a mac
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: update
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: anyone on?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Dude, it's Christmas, so... no?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: of course it's christmas
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there something special with upgrades with wine or mac ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: that's why I can play during the day everyone here is still sleepingin
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you have to unzip it and put it into a special place I guess
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: that's what she said.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should just follow upgrade instructions, just make sure you have copy of your existing mush before taking destruictive actions like overwrite or delete
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: can't seem to get it to unzip
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: when I click on unzip it does nothing
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: anyone know an IT job taht does not require on-call lol
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: In Mushclient/SQLite, can you put the BEGIN TRANSACTION; bunch of SQL inserts; COMMIT; all on one line?  Or do you have execute each statement seperate?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talaam Tech: anybody skilled in the way of aliases in cmud?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you want?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just ask your question.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talaam Tech: I'm trying to create an alias to cast a spell... like cast 'earth maw' (target)
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: isnt that more of a macro?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talaam Tech: I thought adding a $* to the end would do that.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What's your alias name?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talaam Tech: maw
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if its the same as zmud #alias {maw %1} {cast 'earth maw' %1}
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talaam Tech: and it would work either in battle with your current target as just "maw"
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'd do #ALIAS maw {c 'earth maw' %-1}
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talaam Tech: or maw devil
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though you can alias it MUDside, anyway.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, Mokg. You don't need {maw %1}
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Since it's a simple alias, I'd do it mudside regardless (alias maw c 'earth maw' will always maw the target of your choosing, or just cast it without0
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I do all my simple aliases mud side. theres a limit of 60 though
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Talaam Tech: hmmm neat. good advice from everyone. mudside worked (and is what i was looking for... simple!)
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly at Talaam.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: best part is if you go to a better client you'll still have them
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "better" is a relative term. CMUD is better for some, MUSH is better for others. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I didnt name any client names
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, but your statement pretty much says, "CMUD is a crappy client, so move to a better client."
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: the one time I tried it was filled with bugs and crashes with 0 scripts. friend who used it reported the same
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: was a while ago, probably fixed by now
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've been using it for years, very few problems, and I write extensive scripts.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: once I have reloaded all my triggers and variables, how do I get my mapps to reload in mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shaboom Tech: running bast's eq and eqid...now they don't refresh and i can't use normal inv command w/o error. Help anyone?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: anyone use MVPS Hosts ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: does mush work with win8 ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there a way to make blinking text on mush like zmud had ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: since i cant hear sounds ( ye im deaf) visual alerts  in blinking text helped me a lot :(
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Only way I can think is if MUSH supports mxp, and you can use <blink>text</blink>.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: does mush support mcp ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: mxp too rather ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've no clue. :\
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: hell if i can make it open a web page i can make my own blinking pages :p
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient has been reported to work in win8
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ye i read on forum that dir had to be placed elsewhere other than default location
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: do u know how to make blinking text in mush fiend ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: zmud i was able to make a line blink since i cant hear i depended on these visualt cues
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: etzli said it may if mush supports mxp  using blink tags
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: so i dunno
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lyrion Tech: Is there a way to remove the Mushclient splash screen?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lyrion: read it
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vanion: I don't think mushclient supports ansi blink
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's a shame.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: imma cry
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but we should be able to figure out some other visual indicators
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give me a few minutes 
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ok great  :)
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i need to run, im verry curious what u come up with  in short of spamming myself 20 lines of echo :p in all capps( which would get annoying  quick) back in a few :(
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm wondering now what kinds of visual indicators are preferable
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: should the entire window flash? highlight the line itself?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Make it customisable?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I like adding highlights to a single word, or changing the color of a single word on a line
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: it should flash like this: http://www.finalesfunkeln.com/
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: People who smoke crack daily should not make suggestions, Mokg.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: whats wrong with that?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone else using mushclient on windows 8?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: curious what \\\FlashIcon() does for you
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm not sure it would be (nor why would it?) any different than Windows 7, etc.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But, I'll check for you.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: isn't windows 8 all weird and different?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really. Organized a bit differently, sure, but same key elements.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Flashes the tray icon.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What I expected. Only flashes it once.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: good thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: im ok with a single line/word flashing tho color customizable so i can make q time flash red  and  when cp is avail  to flash cyan or whatever
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: atm i just echo in all caps but i seem to miss those too when im sidetracked with work or some other proj
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what about a graphical popup? something that shows outside of the text area. it could blink too of course
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I guess then you trade extra bookkeeping for the increased visual persistence
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: a popup.. will that show up when game is minimized  as well ?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it could be possible to blink text, but it'll be quite brute force
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not that kind of popup
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it would be inside the ...hmm...actually
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod sounds good then :)
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I could probably make a system popup happen too
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but you'd have to dismiss it
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: ye that would be bothersome
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Possible to use popen to open up command prompt for 10-15 seconds?
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: if the internal popup within mush can be dismissed with alias too that would work
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I would use more direct win32 calls than popen
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: luajit ffi makes it possible to call anything in the win32 api
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hmm.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Was not aware of that.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I directly use CreateDirectoryA and CopyFileA in the mapper plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I did not know fb.me had only one login field.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: in zmud i had a window for alerts and was able to clear  alerts as well just kept blinking till i either did a q or cleared that window
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: manually
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think Bast has a plugin for quest time alerts, actually
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: i use bast's miniwin quest plugin though i prefer it always stay visible so i slightly modified it
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: my problem is  its limited to  quests.  i want to beable to make a trig and make alerts for anything i think impt
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: theres a similar plugin for gquests at least
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: and cps.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: just install miniwin tabbar and miniwin events.  that's a good start.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: you can add sounds for when some one auctions a trivia point be nice if  i could have something that is visualally equivilant
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: even if its within mushclient im ok with that  hearing ppl still have an edge by hearing sounds when  client is min or u're in other windows
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't use sounds
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: me neither.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I understand what you mean
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: but its available :)
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Martini & Tyebald Tech: think so, yeah.
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the question becomes one of effective presentation. we're basically talking about dimensional collapse
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: the frontier of HI support :p next to VI :p
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: some things are very easy to do in mushclient, some things are intermediately easy, some things are just not easy
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nods if it was easy i'd habve it done by now :/
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: playing with text output has never been that well supported
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: is split screen like zmud possible? where you scroll and only the top half of your window scrolls up leaving you able to keep playing
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Mokg: only by fakery
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'd have to construct it from bits like I do with the communication log
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: for more on how that works, see www.mushclient.com/forum/?id=10728&page=6#reply82
T3/r7/2012-12-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (potentially an interesting read if you wonder how the communication log works)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Weird, 4.81 keeps kicking back a package update error. I can access the page just fine, though. *shrug*
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: which error?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm guessing just the standard error. Just tells me to make sure I can connect to the page in a browser.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And so I close it and reopen it, and it works.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though first three times (open, close), it didn't. Oh well.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I blame google
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: have to go to bed now
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Might be, though I have been having issues with my web access scripts in CMUD today.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: see, cmud super buggy!!11
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Get some sleep, thanks for your help, always. :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mokg: It's not a case of it being buggy.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's a case of not being able to access a webpage. The code is strictly Lua, not zscript.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So before you blaspheme, know what you're talking about. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if it doesnt execute properly how is that not a cmud bug?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It would be a CMUD bug if it was a language proprietary to CMUD, or had never worked before. As it's the Lua language, and has worked before, it wasn't a bug at all. Just probably some DNS issues.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If it were a language, rather. :P Not was.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: there we go, confirmed bug
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Er, are you dense? I just said it wasn't a bug. There was nothing "confirming" a bug at all.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: your words not mine
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, then explain how it's a bug. It's no different than a website failing to load in a browser because of dns issues. It's not the browser's fault, it's your network's problem, more than likely.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: if the browser has a bug where it doesn't actually attempt to go to any website. bug. just like cmud
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Who said it doesn't attempt to go to any of the websites?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: pretty much an exact quote "my cmud is bugged and wont go to the site"
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think you're trying hard (and failing) to bash a product just because you may not like it. It's cool, though, we all have flavors of things we like and don't like.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nah, you're just putting words in my mouth.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I have nothing against cmud
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: if only zmud didnt kill kittens it would be a lot better
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because as I said, MUSH wasn't working properly, it wouldn't go to the site. So if you want to run your mouth more, that's fine. Just make sure you know what you're talking about. By your definition, I just claimed MUSH is bugged.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli pats Mokg on his head.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: it must be
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: zmud is just a vehicle its the one driving it at falt :p
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: fault too
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: Schenectady, NY: Overcast Temp: 25 F (-3.9 C) Wind chill: 25 F (-4 C) Humidity: 78%.  Wind: NNE at 2mph.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just saying. *blink*
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: What's the bug there?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Other than I'm not in Schenectady :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Trurien: There is no existing bug. Mokg just wants to appear smart and feel like he belongs on the tech channel.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: more like etzli was too dense to realize I was joking even with 1's put in after the exclamation marks
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Maybe if you didn't try to raise the bar like that he wouldn't feel the need to "appear smart" to "belong" on the tech channel :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mokg: This is the age of idiocy. Putting 1s as exclamation points does not mean joking. It means "I'm a stupid moron who overexcites and has to show it by missing the shift key several times.'
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: maybe for someone with little social skills to detect. but you have proven that
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly at Sit like a Trurien.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Morill Tech: excuse me gentilemen this is the tech channel not the argument channel please take it to barter where peoplu usually have these kind of fights :p
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: i think thats miscontrued tho mokg you'd be surprised :)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In all fairness, I deal with many stupid people daily. Plus, I read blogs that show me how stupid the world is. So, if you were joking, kudos. I missed it entirely. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with Morill about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I figured the claiming you said it was a bug would tip you off
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mokg stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mokg: Again, I deal with stupid people daily. You may or may not be surprised at some of the crap that's said not even relevant to the situation. Or they put words in the mouths of others.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Generally.. jokes have to be at least a little bit funny, not just making yourself look like an idiot
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "Excuse me, sir, but your tie is on backwards." -- "MANAGER! He just said that my mother fills up an entire room with gas by rubbing her thighs together!"
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Etzli.. thats not funny, my brother died that way =\
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By his mother rubbing her thighs together and creating gas?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: I had a few people whisper/chuckle at me. I'm sorry you're upset today daloran
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quelz Tech: i missed the joke myself
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: no,wearing his tie backwards.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli comforts Daloran.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I don't know where you got the mistaken idea that I'm upset
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Glad I'm not the only one who missed the joke.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Less idiots there. Gametalk too.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mis.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By the way, I meant less idiots here. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: etzli, you still got a little brown left on your nose :p
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Cheezburger: Thanks for adding to the idiot pool. Now I can't say "less idiots here" anymore. :(
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: always glad to help
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: you'd have brown on your nose too if u scored a night with 2 girls cheezeburger.. at least its not cowshit right :)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly at Runtur Vanion.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, technically it was jesus who told him to do it
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zela Tech: that's what happens when colorset Tech is the same color as colorset Debate
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: is there any possible way to make a macro on the aardwolf android app??
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: cannot you just use serve-side alias ?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: i dunno what your talking about. i just started using this app
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: oh wait i just found the options!
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: so i decided to make a timer on this app but the only options in the type of command were "notification" "toast message" and "ack with".. what do those mean exactly?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i set up a trigger for my quest information when requesting a quest. it highlights the right key words. but it doesnt send on ftalk, any ideas how to fix this>
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe you need change "send to" part
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i use the mudlet client. so to send its send("ftalk blaah blah blah")
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what program do you use to program lua
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: any editor of your choice
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: so notepad will work
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure, but some (like xemacs) have better support for programmers
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though for one-time programming it doesn't really matter whether you use notepad, vi, xamacs 
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok can i use the muds file as an example on how to write lua?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sure, you have plenty of examples in worlds/plugins forlder under Mushclient directory
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for start you should choose something similar to what you want to do
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: sharptracker, winklewinkle and bast plugins can be good start
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: dont want to really program something specific just want to play around and learn it 
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: the best way to learn somthing is to do something specific
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for example, do plugin which will help solving mazes by mapping exits
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok will try that
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, you can quite easily get room id (just like mapper thisroom shows it), then when you move e,s,w,n,u,d - just remember you have started in room X, then you moved <dir>, and you now are in room Y - so you have map: X,dir,Y
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: okay im usng mush client, but none of my commands goes through. meanng i cannot change boards or read notes
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: do you have some plugin / alias which intercepts all your commands ?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: i dont really know,downloaded 2 plugins last night, one made problems so i disabled all of it, and then everything worked fine. now i checked, its still all disabled, and it wont work again
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I would disable all aliases and plugins to check which causes problem
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably one of them intercepts all communication
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Big Boss Blackfang sighs.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: start with aliases - you can switch all them off with single tick
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: hello
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Siren Cera waves goodbye to Thorgil.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: hmm, cant just wave huh?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: problem java telnet disconnect from game every time....can help?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: not me, sorry.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: why disconnect? just after connect or after some command ?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: ok thank, now not disconnec from internet nomore, only java client ....disconnect
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: maybe security java exception
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: im using Xandros Linx on E3PC, i cannot enter as root to install new program(mud client for linux)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: every time i follow instruction on documentation that is wrong... so i hate linux... i will return to windows
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: ok i just get dsconnected from internet....maybe session time of web page ended :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So turns out any DNS issues I had yesterday was the result of the splitter I was using, not a bug in any client I use. *halo*
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: so youre saying cmud was bugged?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: By splitter, I of course mean the split legs of someone who shall remain unnamed's mom.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: but without dns u must enter ip address..
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, IP'd quite nicely in that splitter.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: what is a splitter?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It splits one cable feed into two. Common for houses that have cable tv and cable internet.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: ok thank you
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: so dns interfer, no?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: Domain name Server no?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why would it interfere?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: ok i wrong
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, that depends. You're asking questions because you're not understanding, and that's perfectly fine. Better to ask and understand than not ask and look like an idiot in the future.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For all I know, you know what you're talking about, but you're unable to convey it properly.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: good bye i must go thank for chatting
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli waves goodbye to Thorgil.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorgil Tech: you too:-)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have always been curious how do you write a game crack
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Reverse engineering.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You learn how the game works its registration, and you look for patterns, etc.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it is probably very difficult
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can use debugger like softice
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Trachx.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: for standard protection it is quite easy
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how about a steam game
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but for complicated it is not, like Settlers - game was working, and half-game you had pigs instead steel
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i see
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are a lot of tutorials for crackers
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Most of them aren't worth the fingers that typed them up.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but usually if you use cracked software then probably it was cracked by someone else, so you don't do crack by yourself
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: cool i need to learn all the secrets to stop them when i start my own game studio
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you knew that you wouldn't ask about it - therefore you won't be cracker :)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it doesn't pay to prevent crackers
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it is only matter of effort / time to break protection
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Common phrase: Challenge accepted.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok so maybe make my games so enjoyable and low cost they dont have to be cracked and include benefits for not cracking the game
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: People will still attempt to crack, though.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: game market is quite tough
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: a lot of competitors
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i know
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but you could create some network based game with micro payments
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so game is free (like world of tanks) but you profit on bonus add-ons
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In Batman: Arkham Asylum, the devs put in a surprise for anyone who didn't legally buy the game, though. It simply would "glitch out" and never be completeable.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yep but that is still a few years away still need to finish school and get my degree in programming and development but i have my studio name already
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you don't need that degrees if you want seriously do games
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if you want to work for some studio they can be required
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: To make your own games, no degree necessary. Just churn out quality games. But, if you're looking to go work for Sony or Nintendo, you'll need that degree.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No degrees needed to do anything (almost). Just skill.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: right, also look for example at success of Angry Birds - pure luck for creators that their game was liked by so many people
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: hmm well ill see i will anyway need a bursury to be able to study yeah and i have IT in school
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have already started playying already with writing html batch exe and a whole lot of other files not much success so far
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should rather start with basics - algorithms and math
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok 
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: check http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/find-by-topic/  - there are courses for Computer Science
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: Theory of Computation, Algorithms and Data Structures, Software Design and Engineering and finally Programming Languages
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also Computer Design and Engineerign may be helpful - it is good to have some knowledge how all this stuff works (computers)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i am saving all this advice to a txt file
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: this is recommended way - theory -> practice, though you could also choose practice -> theory and start programming using tutorials (there are a lot of them on Internet)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: anyone have a favourite set of wireless speakers?  my wife really needs a set of simple speakers for use with hulu, pandora, windows media player, etc. 
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Personally, I use wireless headphones.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is there a reason they need to be wireless speakers, though?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, I suppose computer in one room, working out/cleaning in another room, etc, would be a good reason.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: wireless - she has good wired speakers, but is having trouble not throwing them out the window because of the problems with wires.  (she looks at wires and they snarl)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli chuckles politely.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: and it's got to be speakers not headphones, because 1) neither of us can stand headphones, and 2) she wants to be able to play her music or her tv show for other people in the room.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: it's super cute and very funny, but it really does bring her to the point of tears when 20 things fall to the floor because she moved one speaker and the wire caught another wire, etc.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Might be beneficial to make a cable organizer, or something similar. Binder clips on the edge of the desk with cables fed through will would help with entanglements, and zipties will kind of help declutter, too.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not the answer you're looking for, I know, but it'll help with other cables in the mean time.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: ya, trust me, i've been down the cable management route. oh well.  if no one has one they know, I'll have to (horrors) ask someone at the store.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli grins evilly at Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: thanks for trying tho :) 
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: velcro ties instead of zipties
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure thing! Good luck with it.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta chuckles at Vorpal Vorpes's joke.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya all i saw was cable management and then zipties :) i have no experience with wireless audio
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: niether do i. virtually anything else tech related i am good with, but not audio.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Can anyone think of why Comm Log is sporadically not showing up in Mushclient.  It's not hidden or anything, and I can right click on where it usually is and see the right click menu for it...it's like it's there, but not showing up.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledbelly Tech: hello, I have a client issue.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ledbelly Tech: Hello, at the bottem of the client is the input/txt bar, any way to move it?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you are talking about Mushclient I don't believe so
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: techHi I need to get the Spare label off my screen and I am on a tablet. When I touch and hold the screen The label came up and I accidently hit Ok. How do I get it off?????
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unrelated, but Mariposa is a nice place. :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Achtyn Tech: press it until a menu pops up.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Maryposa Tech: tech Figured it out thanks!!!
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Keep in mind you only have to type the channel name once. :)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Glad you figured it out though.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2412195,00.asp
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: says it all about why windows 8
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err about windows 8
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Suspending your arms in mid-air to poke at the screen is like some Gitmo torture technique. 
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it says more that the pcmag writer is retarded
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well i have no plans to use touchscreen on a desktop pc...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i need my arms for work
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: touch screen interface is fantastic on a laptop
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it would also be fantastic on a desktop if you're not a stupid user
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nobody says you can't also have a mouse and keyboard
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: need a "sub screen" for desktop... wireless...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CaptainDude Tech: i need help. i dowloaded some plugins for my tablet and im not sure how to enable them
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 27" touchscreen is redonkulous
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the size of the screen is irrelevant. touch capability is a positive
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if you say so
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: using a mouse on a 27" screen is far less rational
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, only if you're using high resoluation, which with a 27" screen, you'd be stupid not to.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher laughs out loud.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But using a mouse on a 27" with a 640 resolution... well... :p
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like a crappy television?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: eye bleeding
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: television distances make touch less valuable
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe you guys like bending over to reach your screen, but i like laying back in comfort
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arguing "gorilla arm" is like saying every ATM should have a mouse hanging from it. That would offer significantly poorer usability
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: "bending over to reach" means you just have a poor positional arrangement
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like having the screen a comfortable distance away?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define comfortable
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: far enough that you have to reach for it...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my screen is very comfortably reachable
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and i'm only using a 17" nonwidescreen,,,
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: screen distance is just an effect of an archaic technology arc that is going to dead end for computer use in the nearish future anyway. beyond relatively small sizes, flat physical screens are far less practical than goggles
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i couldn't imagine sitting a foot away from a 27"
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you must have very short arms
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well you wanna minimize reach distance as much as possible
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and limited imagination for how computers can be used
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: full arm reach gets old real fast
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that depends entirely on the direction of reach and how frequently you do it
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and on the rest position between motions
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like i said, maybe a small subscreen for calculater for some crap like that
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: easier just to buy a calculator...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I suppose like with most other things you won't realize how wrong you are until the entire world has transitioned and it becomes ubiquitous
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i fail to see the point,,,
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you will in 10 years
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i still don't have a cell phone...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: now we begin to get a larger picture
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you drive a car?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yep, not into useless gadgets to get corporations rich
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you drive only very short distances?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like the highway
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you drive long distances sometimes
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do you have a way other than cell phone to call for help in the event of getting stranded or some other emergency?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: my thumb
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qork Tech: how do i change font size on the ipad free mudclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your thumb can't call for help
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes it can
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it sounds to me like you're relying on someone else to know to bail you out of an emergency
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so you whip out your thumb and 15 minutes later maybe someone stops. now what happens?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe 30 minutes or an hour. I think an hour is more likely in a lot of places
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qork Tech: does anyone use ipad mudclients?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: or more depending on the time of day and traffic conditions
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: certainly in many places you could have your thumb out for days without anyone stopping by
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs in response to Qork's question.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: let's say you're not even driving. you're walking through the park. and you or a person you are with feels like they might be having a heart attack
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're not that far from a phone. I bet if you run really fast you could find one within 15 or 20 minutes
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: assuming that it's the friend and not you
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's a difference between not using a cell phone and not having one.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: wth hell am I listening? is there a place where you cant find mobile within 2 minute walk?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the premise here is that Santher sees no use in cell phones. Of course it's easy to just say "oh well someone else will solve my problem for me so I don't need to take responsibility for myself"
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and a 2 minute walk can mean you die
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ah, sorry, didnt see the premise
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and there are lots of places where a 2 minute walk won't even get you a decent amount closer to help let alone cell reception or wifi
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: guess you havent been in north pole :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's a terrible thing to need help and not be able to reach anyone
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qork Tech: how long is the queue for answering the next question on tech?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Qork: nobody uses ipad :\
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: take a ticket
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I have been to the arctic circle
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Qork Tech: oh ok
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: all agents are currently assisting other customers right now. Your call is very important to us please hold on the line.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: I live in arctic circle :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but it was on a research ship, and we had helicopters and rifles for polar bears
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: food, polar bears that is
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Please stay on the line your tech question is important to us.  Do not hang up and ask again as questions will be answered in turn.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i can't turn my computer on :(
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: have you tried turning it off and on...oh
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: that button on the front of your case. push it
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: plug it in?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: the bigger button not the smaller one
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's the smaller one?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: restart
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the red one that's got a don't push label on it?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: give it a  tech kick
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: no porn here mokg and fiendish!
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Just buy a new one
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: My website is strictly not porn.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah toss that one in the pacific and get a new one
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: don't get many visitors do ya?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: 2 tps if someone can find a working emulator for starocean
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: what os?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: playstation
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mokg laffs.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Then you need a playstation emulator, not a star ocean emulator. PSx works
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sexcellent GabeLogan Tech: windows, linux, mac, unix/
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: windows 7
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: there's only 1 gaming OS :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, psx runs natively on doze.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i tried psx and it wouldn't work
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Only one /effective/ one, doesn't mean people don't try on other OS's
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Did you get a PS bios?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: yep
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Works for me, running it right now.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: on 7
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: intresting, you should give me the site, i will give you the tps :)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Keep your tps
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: What Spec computer are you trying to run this on?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: lenovo laptop
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: spec, not brand
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: cpu, gpu, ram, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: What specific issue is it too?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher watches a 747 fly by
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'm guessing you don't have a strong enough CPU to run a PS emulator. They are pretty resource intensive.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: 1600 mhz dual core
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: It'll redline my old 2.2 Ghz
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's not for gamming
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: You can't run crap on 1600 mhz...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: 4 gb ram
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: bummer :(
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it worked for rift and lotr
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: my rule of thumb for gaming PC's is no less than 2.6 Ghz, and no less than 8 Gb ram. As for GPU, I suggest one with at least 1 Gb dedicated.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you want at least a 3 ghz dual core these days, if not a 3 ghz quad...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 6-8 is where it's at
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: amount of ram doesnt matter on a gpu. its the speed of it
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: or at least 3 phy, and 6 virt
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i have 4 virt
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: games still need fast cores...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: So a dual core then
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: my virtual is 5.98
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well you get 3.3 ghz i5's now pretty cheap
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or you can get a AMD FX-6100 for cheaper and Overclock it at 3.8 or clock at 3.4-3.6 depending
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah the FX gets less donw per clock though, or w/e :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's still lags behind an i5
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: an i3 would be the best value
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I refuse to use any intel below an i7 3rd gen.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: an i5 is basically the same as an i7 for gaming
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Anything weaker is too most cost:power ratio
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heh i just upgraded to core 2 duo, lol
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Of course, for that price, he could just buy the game.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but i found the cpu for free
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Or a barebones kit
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher chuckles at Cuddlez's joke.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Assuming he can assemble a parted PC
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: we nerds don't buy games :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I buy games
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Only after I test drive them
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yeah, but if playstation is your OS, you're not a nerd. :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I download cracked ISO's, if I like it, I buy it.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That's pretty typical anymore, Eutchus.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dat Eutychus nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I'll DL on my PC, and buy on my PS3/360 if the game stands up to scrutiny
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Support the good games, let the crap ones die (IMO)
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I do that, or if the local Redbox has the game Ill rent it for a day on my 360.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I never get games from redbox. A dvd/br to watch with the girl periodically, but not games :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: It's like a 1.50 for a night, to try it out. Not so bad.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I take more than a day to truly judge a game :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I didn't make my judgement on Skyrim until level 30 :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: only got to level 7 on it
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Speaking of which, any frigging word on bethesda's DLC's for PS3?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Ahhh, I usually play a bit past the intro scenario and make judgement.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I hear dragonborn will make it, but DG/HF will be a while yet. Just wondering dates, or estimates.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Waiting for elder scrolls online.. the dev videos look pretty awesome.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Seen what Enix is putting together for FFXIV for the PS4? Insane.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Nope
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh, who you talkin' to? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Whens PS4 release?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Holliday 2013
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: New Xbox announced yet?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: As of last word from Sony
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Still having chipset manufacturing issues last I heard :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I dont see how the graphics could be much better, I hear the ps3/360 have much more potential than can be tapped. But I dont know much about software developement.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 7x the previous gen at last statement
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: That can be*
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Previous to ps3? or ps4?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: ps4 == 7 ps3's
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Lololol
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: But ps3 was like a Radeon 4960 or some 10 year old technology wasnt it?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ps4 would be for VR i would imagine...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nah, not that bad Eut
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Wonder what the release cost will be, prob 1k+
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: PS3 GPU is still the fastest brute force cracker in existence :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeha thanks to it's memory controller
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: 6-7 hundo would be my guess.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: They still expect 3+ years of PS3 sales, though
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: vid card companies love giving you lots of gimped ram...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: I saw this $30k setup with like 10 560GTX a year ago, it was like some 32 million passwords a minute.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dat Eutychus Tech: Not sure how accurate all their information was but it was impressive looking.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Some hackers chained 6 or 7 PS3 CPU's and were doing 50+ i thought
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dat Eutychus boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No idea what algorithm or any more data, that was just what it was quoted at. So take it with a grain of salt.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ati usually wins the raw speed battle... if you they could find a decent manufacturer...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if they could only*
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: so starocean iso's with psx won't play on my computer :(
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it handled finalfantasy 4 for NSX
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: DS
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: We already told you your computer can't handle emulating a PS.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: you can try and try, but your just going to fry your cpu
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ff 4 is ancient
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: or gpu, whichever gives first
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ff7 is the first ps version
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: If you did get it up and running, i'd be interested in seeing what FPS you can manage on that limited of resources.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: fried cpu/gpu? what kinda garbage you running? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: amd/ati? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: not me, him. you saw his system specs.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well lenovo tends to be reiable, if nothing else...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what were the system specs?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: tech -h jameson, fiend
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's not very complete spec info
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: 1.6GHz dual core what?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Enough to know he can't handle it and should stop trying :P
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can't handle what?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: PS emulator
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's wrong
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: How so?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i wanted starocean emulator for my pc
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I would love to see PSX running on a 1.6Mhz dual core, at anything more than a snail's pace.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I played PSX games on a beige 300MHz PowerMac G3 in 1998
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: i have the virtual, but not enough ram and processor speads
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: flawlessly
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: For reals?!
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I redlined my 2.2Ghz AMD (don't remember which chip exactly) trying to emu PSx.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectix_Virtual_Game_Station
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: sorry, I guess it was 1999
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: probably the smd 64... which about as slow as the pentium 4
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Nah, never ran a 64.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: atlon?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Similar, though, i'm sure.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sempron?
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Been through far too many GPU/CPUs to keep track anymore.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Cheezburger: you're probably not using a faithful emulator. a lot of PSX emulators try to fancy up the graphics 
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Very well could be, this was a few years ago. I don't recall exactly what I was doing at the time, I just know it made my computer about take a dump.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Got the GPU hot enough to soften the soldering on the MB, last time I tried PSX on that crappy box.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: CPU*
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: fiend ps uses a RISC cpu as well...
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm just saying that "1.6GHz" is insufficient information
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my experience with emulators is that performance is heavily dependent on whether your emulator is trying to be overly smart or overly stupid
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: it wouldn't play on psx
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I prefer monocolor
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Anyone know of a good, free, social media aggragater for Windows? Tweetdeck is a start, but I want all of my social media (g+, fb, twitter) in one place, not infinite twitter accounts and a facebook account.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Have to keep up on it for work, don't like having to use multiple clients.
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh sorry, not applicable
T3/r7/2012-12-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: actually I was wrong. bitlbee will work for all those things as long as what you want is just the messaging
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: does anyone know if its possible to use fraps to record whats currently on the screen not just in games?
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: If not FRAPS, I'm fairly certain another similar program would.  I think Xsplit is one I've heard used often for streaming on, say, twitchtv.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: see I dont want to stream though, I only want to record.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: guessing he doesnt want it publically shown
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: no the thing is my speed doesnt allow me to stream
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: use autoscreenrecorder
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: hence I record then upload to youtube
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: you select a portion of your monitor to record and it does
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: made by wisdom-soft. its free
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pyromaniac ElementPyros Tech: yea I found it, while I have your attention, what exactly is .net framework?
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: http://www.microsoft.com/net
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: duckbat having problems?
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: hi, i am having trouble with mushclient trigger
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: i would need a cooldown to apply to a trigger, so that it doesn't activate more than once every tot seconds, to avoid triggering a cascade
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: is there anything like that? haven't found it on the internet
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: e
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dinkers Tech: anyone know how to use exit locks with the mapper? I can't find a help file.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: try mapper help
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: right click the room, then click change exit locks
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: mapper lockexit - Bring up the exit level-locking dialog for the current room.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: why doesnt my alias work when it sends "#sendroomcheck"  it says That is not a command. Type 'Commands' for a complete list.   but if i type just #sendroomcheck outside of an alias it works for my plugin....
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Cody - what client.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: Are you sending to World not Execute?
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: all other lines in the alias work as i want.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ummm,oh...lemme check ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If you send to world the alias will send directly to world, if you send to Execute it gives aliases a chance to match.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: ahh yes, send to execute fixxed things. thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cody Tech: is there a spell check for mush client so i can see words mis spelled as im typing them? i r teh sux at spelling
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: anyone here know how to create a trigger that auto equips a disarmed weapon? pdt
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Big Boss Blackfang Tech: anyone here know how to create a trigger that auto equips a disarmed weapon? pst
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Delacour Tech: i have labels on my screen,how to clean them
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Rubbing alcohol.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Delacour -D i mean those blue buttons where reads label
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have a plugin that practices spellups? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Not one that practices them, but I'm using one by WW (finger WinkleWinkle for the site) that automatically recasts them when they die on you. That might be a good start, if you don't already have an auto-spellup plugin, and until you find a plugin specifically designed to practice them.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: practicing spellup spells is so tedious and boring
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: anyone know where i can find xcode 4.0.2?
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: why not 4.5.2?
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: using snow leopard on a mac.. so i cant install anything newer than 4.0.2
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hueitliltic Tech: and... ummm not too sure about "free" upgrades from v10.6.8 to 10.7++ 
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Heh, I'm a 90s kid. When you were listening to that, I was probably listening to Britney Spears and Aaron Carter, no lie.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: holy mischan of embarassment...
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}CeriQ Tech: Made my day(night).
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: there's no fix for that, tech or otherwise.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Worst. Day. Ever.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i thought i missed something on tech
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm dying from laughter here.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Kill me now.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harrold Tech: I'm assuming the worst day ever was actually the one where you were listening to aaron carter.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But I'll alleviate some of that embarrassment. I used to listen (and enjoy listening to) Backstreet Boys. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: No, because it's worse now because back then I enjoyed it :P
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also a bit of N*Sync.
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: just dont pee on yourself like my does when she laughs
T3/r7/2012-12-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ....Hangin tough =o
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: up, north, enter b, east, enter b, recall
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, dunno why I mischanned here :P
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: i'm having an issue with portals in mush client. i use the command mapper portal <alias> when i'm in the room the portal goes to. it returns an output of <alias> <room id> <levelofportal>... but then if i type mapper portals, there are no portals in the list, and mapper doesn't use them to run to any area
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: so... i apologize i had ot afk (go to work) after asking my earlier question... anyone who's good with mapper portals in MUSH please message me
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: First time I've ever had 2 SSDs on 6gb/s before. Can I just say, wholy JEEBUS transfers are fast :D
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nice now raid 0
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Have an Ubuntu server running as a samba/torrent box with 12gb on raid 6, all good :-P
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i am finally lucky enough to have an SSD
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i liked the video i saw of 24 raid 0 SSD being used to rip a dvd
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I was reading on TH that raiding ssd is almost silly.  the increase is so negligible if you are raiding for performance vs redundancy
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can't imagine downgrading now... 7 second boot time with very lazy BIOS/windows startup setups
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I do love dat SSD boot volume.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: But yeah, no real reason for striping for performance.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: If you're paranoid about your data, maybe...
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Transferring just between these 2 saturates the transfer bus, I'm sure.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I keep my data on a fat mirror set tho on slower spindles.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Only for heavy writes.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: whats different between using a ssd to boot  to a flash drive ?
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: buffer I think
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Interface - SATA III whoops USB out of the park.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: faster bus ok :) thats one prob only one
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: That and the SSD generally will tolerate a lot higher mean time to failure, a lot more writes, and has better error correction.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: comparable to serial vs usb lol
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Of course, that's also given that most 'flash drives' are made from seriously junk flash that seldom performs to specs.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I have midas' touch with flash drives heh
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: and ramse's touch with hdds.... especially wd
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: all I have to do is peek at a wd hdd and I hear the platters :p
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I work in enterprise storage for a living for a large company, thankfully I seem to have a nice touch with drives.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: newegg got some fair priced ocz 256mb for 230 right now
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: ssd sry
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: $0.90 / gig isnt bad imho
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Amazon's got a Crucial 256GB on daily deal right now for 140.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Err. 159. Save 140.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Still, not bad at all.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: 500+ sustained?
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: still 159 is a steal, ima check that out
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: >> 500 MB/sec sequential reads (at 6 Gb/sec),260 MB/sec sequential writes (at 6 Gb/sec)
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: gotta be a mail in rebate or something
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Nope, that's the price, no mail in.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I don't think I've seen a daily deal yet with a mail rebate.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Protogynus Robbo nods at Chaz Bono Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: holy crap, he tells the truth he does... what a deal!
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Chaz Bono Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Seriously considering picking one up now :P
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Don't need it, but I could resell it in a week for profit :P
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: crucial to boot, good stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I've only got a 120GB boot drive, but not pushing the limits of it, keep all my data (and most importantly my Steam install) to my data drives.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Darn that Steam, eating all my disk!
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: what?  no world of warcraft ssd? :p
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: Nah, don't play WoW at all. ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: hrmm steam is quite the data pig isnt it
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: 183GB on my machine...
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I have a huge library, but I rarely have more than 4-6 games installed at once
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: pretty much borderlands2 and some tf2 these days when I get my fps cravings, some skyrim now and then
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: hrmm now im justifying buying that ssd for my steam stuff :p
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I have a Fallout fetish.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: i liked the older isometric ones
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: the newer 1st person only ones... i get queasy looking at em
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Crazybeard Tech: I still love fallout3, prolly the best hybrid ever made
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I liked Wasteland! EGA graphics ftw.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Protogynus Robbo Tech: I enjoy Fallout 3 immensely. NV was not quite as much fun to me.
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: like the concept, just the motion sickness thing
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: with Bast's new eqs plugin, when I add the level, I use tha actual level of the item and the plugin takes care of my tier level?
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: or do I adjust for my tier?
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: in other words, do i set the level on all my lev 41 items as 41 or as 1?
T3/r7/2012-12-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: need some help with the newst bast plugins.. getting a weird bug-like thing, anyone here to help?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: is there a way to search mush buffer ( not comm log) for a word/string ?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sure, if you log everything...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: figures :/
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: use grep
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: grep... Unknown command. Please check the helpfiles.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: grep is linux/unix
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher grins evilly.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, if you have logs, you can use grep to locate lines containing specific word/string
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: grep isn't specifically *nix anymore. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: well if i had logs u can use find in notepad :p and i wouldnt be asking this question here :p
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: they got a windows app for grep now?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: They've had for a while. WindowsGrep.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's always been a windows app for grep
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, for single search notepad is quite enough, though if there are multiple occurences of word - then grep is much easier to use
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Notepad++ is pretty nice with their search/replace.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i assume that's like using dos?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Runtur Vanion Tech: nod thats all i needed :p
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So nice to use regex and extended characters.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only if you want it to be, santher
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It has a GUI, Santher.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I really should get on that regex thing.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are dos-based ones, windows GUI ones, or you could use cygwin
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cool
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: shiver cygwin
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: is it still amazingly slow?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Amazing slow to install. :p
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never been slow that I've known of
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: +ly
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: Any time I've ever bothered with it, typing a single command line would take 500-2000 ms
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But once you get it installed, it's not half bad.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: before it executes (even cd,ls)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: maybe I had too many tab completion modules installed
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: grep Abe * popped onto my screen pretty much the moment I typed it
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i'm tempted to try nix in a vm... but after my experience with vm's i'm not sure that's a good way to experience a new OS...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cygwin will give you most normal un*x commands without any vm
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: A while back, there was an install of Ubuntu which allowed you to run Ubuntu in a windows environment. Kind of similar to a VM, but it was standalone.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i put win 7 on an imac via vm and it convinced the owner of the imac to buy a pc... :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but a nice easy way to quickly play with linux would be something like damn small linux on qemu
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Failing VMs anyway, you can get a USB install of linux and run it at boot.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah my BIOS isn't one of those win 8 secure boot pos's like the imac had so that should work :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the only thing secure about "secure boot" is making sure you don't put non Microsoft approved OS's on it...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you thought they had a monoply before... just wait :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/frequently_asked_questions.html#Can_I_run_DSL_inside_Windows.3F, single 50MB zipfile, one file to double-click to boot the virtual machine...the zipfile includes the emulator and OS
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i take it if your cpu has virtualization features it'll work much better than without right? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wouldn't matter for that
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well wtf is that junk for then?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: off to google i guess
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: host-OS-friendly virtualization, core virtualization
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher walks around in the room, looking very confused.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Catas Tobe Tech: you'd need a virtual machine platform that runs on RING-0 (ie Xen) to take advantage of CPU virtualization support
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: santher: running a program that's an emulator is not virtualizing your PC
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's just running a program
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so it's basically useless for normal pc use?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normal pc use involves no types of virtualization...95% of the PCs on the planet have never and will never run any thing virtual (other than WoW64 nowdays or java if you want to count that)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and doesn't help virtual machines?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yes, it's not useful for most uses involving running Windows or Linux as your primary OS
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it helps virtual machines, when the computer itself is virtualized
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta realize that the "real" way to VM a machine is that the primary OS *IS* the virtualizer
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ok you're condraticting yourself...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: og you mean the OS does the vm now some vm software...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Abelinc, you should have followed that up with "yes" just to prove Santher's point. *blink*
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's host and guest operating systems...host is what boots your PC, guest is in a VM
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the host operating system being a hypervisor will use them
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vsphere, xen, etc...where you run Windows UNDER them, not run them IN windows
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh depends on the vm software..
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there an easy way to tell the difference (before running it) :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the difference is that one is the core OS of the machine, and the other is a program
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ok i repeat the same question :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you turn on your computer, did you boot into windows? then it's not what I'm talking about
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also understand that, while you're not using "CPU virtualization technology", you are taking advantage of multiple cores, and we're not talking about stuff that you'd notice a difference with
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so i need a loader type thing first?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that loader would be the OS
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: just not windows...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and windows would BE a VM
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or not OSX apparently...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, those aren't hypervisors
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and i'm gonna guess not ubuntu...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no OS that you would ever be typing into
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's my point
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then what does "that loader would be the OS" mean?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it would be the host OS. You don't ever touch the host OS with a real hypervisor
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only job of it is to run guest OSes, which is what you'd be touching
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ok how do i get a "host OS"?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to...but you'd download a hypervisor and put it onto a boot device
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Santher... a better term would probably be a "bare metal hypervisor" 
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you plan to virtualize half a dozen servers onto one box, then it'd be something to care about
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sounds like i want to if i want to use the virtualization features on my cpu...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want to use the virtualization features on your cpu
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a dozen other technologies in your cpu that you don't want to use as well
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ..These are not the droids you're looking for
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: even from vitrual machines?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even from virtual machines
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't change anything for you
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: why wouldn't i want to use that feature?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because it's not for what you think it is
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: alrighty. back to google then i guess...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: the only time you would care about features in your cpu is if you need to code an os/supervisor...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: or possibly if you need to really optimize your code
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: e.g. search for python 114000 on youtube
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah sounds like it had nothing to do with gaining performance from what i can and more about making easier to make "hypervisors"
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err has
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone know why Bast's miniwin_spellup might need 66 meg of RAM?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol cause his plugins are buggy?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use winkle's spellup plugin myself...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: you like it better, San?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well it's simple and it works...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i tried bast's a few times and could never get it working
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: ahh gotcha. basts has worked pretty well for me, but, always down to try others
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I tried Winkle's spellup way back in its infancy. It was good, but I like a heavier hand than it provides.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and doesn't use 66 megs of ram :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not that it would matter much on this poc
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: meh. 66 is a drop in the bucket.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: pc
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: when i've got like 200tabs open in chrome, i can't really me bothered by that
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: be bothered, rather
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: That said, the ram eating nature of Bast's plugins is starting to get ridiculous :D Trying to track down leaks, Mush opens with 50meg, record currently sits at 10 gig.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well mush with plugins loaded atm is only using 24...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: 10 gig? yowza.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Indeed. Right now open for 24 hours, started at its usual 50meg, now 250 meg
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, i'd say ditch the bast plugins :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Can see miniwin_spellup has 66 meg, idk where the other 150 extra is coming from. Buffer has 7meg, not there
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: huh. Mush at 521mb... hadn't realize it was that hungry
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: It isn't. It just has leaks like a mfer.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Same difference for someone in my position.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Still not sure whether the problem is Mush, Lua implementation, or Bast
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: mine shows 22,000k exactly. Just what are you guys doing?!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well mine is at 24 megs and holding with no bast plugins...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: well, i've been connected for 9+ days.. so that might be part of it
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You all use aardmush? Or old school Mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: aardmush here
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: the aard mush client, with additional plugins
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah aardmush plus winkle's s&d and spellup...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ok, so mapper is unlikely. Pretty much has to be Bast then. Oh well. I'll take the gigs of RAM for the convenience of miniwin_events :D
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: am I the only one slightly amused that some people use more system resources on mudding than would've been possible with a normal pc back when the mud started?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I'm using aardmush, old version. Probably ought to upgrade
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: when i started mudding, the mapper wouldn't have been practical...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: as it was it was slow on a 2 ghz single core sempron
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and i started on a 386
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: those were the days...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 2:36AM  up 199 days, 1 hr, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00...tf-50b8: 7824K
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you're awake?!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: am not!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, right, sorry. For a moment there I thought you were
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: does eureka know you've been secretly mudding past midnight?!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: santa got me logging in the alts again, though, so tf is quit & restarted regularly...eureka's been on for a week straight, still about 7800k
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm at least in bed, she's still in the living room
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: mudding from bed... Sounds rather pleasant.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I'm usually mudding from bed...comfy
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I ought to get one of those laptop bed-table thingies
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: flat panel mounted on ceiling. only way.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: not an option for the starving student...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't bother with a laptop stand, just laptop on my knees
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I want google glasses that can play to my eyes. That or a flat panel that can lay flat on a 360 degree swivel...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I wish the head mounted displays were a little more practical.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I can't stand the laptop keyboard. These days I use a keyboard plugged into my laptop whenever I'm home.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i mud in bed too
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mechanical keyboards are a requirement for my typing style. I would punch holes right through an ordinary laptop keyboard :-(
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and I have a second monitor plugged in too. Wouldn't be able to use that on a laptop stand/table thingy though...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Electrobite Tech: i mud from bed, chair, pc, shower, toilet :p
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: typing on keyboard with a touchpad were you're wrists should sit isn't much fun
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: first thing I do on a laptop is turn off the "touch to click" feature of the touchpad
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ohhh... I had almost forgotten about that feature...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Only time my wrists rest is when I'm using WASD. Of course, my chair armrests are high enough my elbows are resting on them
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I remember getting fed up and disabling it a long way back
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was an early adopter of touchpads, though, I bought an ADB Glidepoint for my Mac desktop back in '94
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I keep even forgetting that I have a wireless mouse on my laptop at work
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Anyone use the little knob? I remember using one of those on the first laptop I ever had.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the pencil eraser?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: wireless keyboard and mouse for your laptop ftw
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I plug in a mouse at home too... the only part of my laptop not (literally!) gathering dust is the area around the power button
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.. you mean the trackpoint on the ibm/lenovo models?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I need to wipe it...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I only use that every now & then when the touchpad gets squirelly
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Couldn't tell you the model/brand now, perhaps 10 years ago. But the little knob in the middle of the keyboard, like a joystick only tiiiiny
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dell includes the nub as well
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Not, its called a trackpoint for the thinkpads.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that thing was stupid
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: much like a redundant windows keys...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: which i still never use
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I love all the ways they tried to 'fix' mice. So many bs technologies... look and blink. Yes, blink twice for double click. Right click with a wink.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I never use it exactly - but i use the extra mouse buttons above the touchpad that they tend to come with
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, I never use those top buttons
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: That seems like an awful idea.  Do you know how much you blink unconciously?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher snickers softly.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i always wondered if the clapper commercial made the product turn off...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you're using blink to control something, you'll soon get a bit too conscious about your blinking... and then you'd get the itch to blink more
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: err, blinking
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I feel kinda bad now that I've googled it, as headmouse (as it's called) was migrated to the disabled community once they worked out the abled community thought it was stupid.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Vak.. to my understanding that was always kind of the point of it..
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah or the stupid idea microsoft has to get us all close to our monitors to hold up our arms to use a pc...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Apparently came out of thinktanks on productivity, pre .com burst
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: if everyone wanted touchscreen pc's we would have them like 30 years ago
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Generational change...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: little touchscreen computers are fine...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: big ones, not so much
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Touchscreen for computing is for mobile devices, visual arts, or toys. Not one programmer ever wants to code on a touchscreen.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I think they're nice as an additional input on desktops.... but not so much a mouse/kb replacement
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: most people get bigger screens so they can see it from farther away
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... has anyone made a pseudo-touchscreen for pcs using a webcam? If it hasn't been done yet, could patent it.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Sonshi: already done. Thats basically what the Kinect is anyway
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: aw
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: look up kung fu typewriter
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I like the body projection technology currently. Hard to make it practical though
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd like a brain-computer interface, please.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nobody that types wants a touchscreen
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: come to think of it, why isn't it more widespread? You'd think that people would be willing to spend a few bucks to give their screen touchscreen abilities...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's just a retarded idea
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Touchscreen on a desktop would be very annoying and not ergonomical.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Once they come up with tactile responses for touchscreens (exists already, but is difficult and expensive) they will explode even more than they have already
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it would be useful sometimes, especially if you have multiple monitors
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Ranrr, the point is the 'death' of the desktop. People without a business perspective think it will happen :-)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I often lose track of where my cursor is after typing in aard for a number of minutes
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: touchscreens work great for kioks and junk like that...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: like restaurants
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and bars
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: sonshi.... might be helpful to turn on that beacon thing for it, if you lose it often
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, since ms don't have a desktop os since W8, I guess the desktop is dead.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, show me once accountant that wants a tablet...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if I had a touchscreen, I could just point at what I want instead of pushing my mouse to a corner to figure out where the cursor is...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Every smart IT man knows you skip a release
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I skip all MS releases, so I must be supersmart!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: stick with 7 till ms gives out the "new and improved" version
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: son, in mouse options in control panel under windows, option for "show mouse curse when i press ctrl" .. if you don't know about it. Maybe you do.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Indeed, windows 9 should be really good at this rate
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... didn't know about that
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: still not an ideal - but keeps you from wagging around the mouse to find it by movement 
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I barely even use a mouse, would definitely not need a touchscreen. But I am probably not a typical user.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh wait... but if it shows when I press ctrl, that's going to be really annoying when mudding.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Touchscreen terminal. Booyah, sounds like a job for pointy-hair manager,
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: because I hit ctrl too many times...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: most "users" i know don't use touchscreens
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Maybe, Son. Might be a way to change the keypress that does it
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I don't know that I ever lose a mouse cursor unless I am looking at someone else's screen while trying to fix what they broke. (hint: get off the damn chair if you want me to help you /rant)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Poor angle and such.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I'd kind of like to have the touchscreen option.. but mostly for non-pc pc uses. like using it as a media player, it'd be nice to wander by, skip tracks, change whatever, and carry on without pulling out the kb/mouse
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm, actually it only shows when you press ctrl and release without hitting anything else, so it's a good solution. thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I use my iPad as a remote control for most everything. Excellent touch screen on demand
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: No problem, Sonsh. glad it'll work for you
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: (rooted, of course)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i prefer wireless remotes to touchscreens...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: those are handy too. I've got my smartphone set up to do a lot of that. The Ceton remote app for WMC is pretty slick
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can buy just a touchscreen monitor, or even a touchscreen film to put on your own monitor
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah but remotes are a lot cheaper :)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: I have an app on the iPad which allows customisable buttons for macros recorded on my main PC :-) Remote ALL the things
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Medieval Jameson Tech: anyone with a script to keep me online?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: jameson: that'd depend on your client
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Trigger off glaze, send empty line. Bam.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: oh god don't get me started about apple...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: but everyone already has one or more android/mac devices... don't they?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if MUSH, then game -> configure -> timers, every 10 mins, Send(""), send to script
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it would be more efficient to use a virtual touchscreen than buying a film for the monitor, wouldn't it?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Apple products are excellent when you root them. That said, my next phone is going to be an SIII
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: in terms of resources and all...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: apple's so bad, they make microsoft like cupid
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sonshi: efficient?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err look like
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would it be more efficient in terms of resources?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, if you just use a webcam and software, you can have a touchscreen without actually adding anything to the monitor...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you use a webcam and software, then your webcam would need to be suspended around where you sit, facing the monitor...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a webcam would have too low accuracy... need a better camera for that to be viable
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: things like the kinect are not like a virtual touchscreen, they're like a virtual mouse...there's a significant difference between the two
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... maybe that's why that sort of thing hasn't taken off...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: virtual mouse shows relative motion, whereas touchscreen solves the exact problem you initially stated
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you aim the camera right, you could make a virtual touchscreen, mouse, and keyboard!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's voice recoginiton... sure it's fun for a bit, but it gets annoying real fast
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: plenty of research in that area, e.g. the "nouse" application
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err it's like
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, has anyone bought those virtual keyboards that paint a keyboard on the desk with a laser?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but typing on a flat surface with a virtual keyboard would be annoying, yeah...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, my mother-in-law just said that her department bought Dragon and they think they'll be able to get rid of some secretaries...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you wouldn't need a laser to paint it... you could just use a printout..
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: although I guess a laser wouldn't suffer from wear and tear...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: a mock keyboard and a camera to read keypresses? Sounds... like a regular keyboard would be simpler.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a printout would need to be moved with the unit...having the unit "paint" it on the desktop is how they currently work because it's less hassle
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, but a regular keyboard uses more plastic!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: less hassle, until you try to use it :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, I'm thinking of cheapskate solutions
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they've been on the market for a few years now...it's for portable stuff where youdon't want to be carrying a full-sized keyboard...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: using a camera for input instead of all the clunky input devices we have would seem to be the way to go in situations where you'd want to reduce weight... Imagine a future where troops can carry a computer system around with a camera for input and a projector for output...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: or maybe they already do, who knows
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: imagine brain controlled system
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: that's a lot harder though...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there are some implementation of brain controlled systems
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: brain controlled systems are extremely clunky and inefficient
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not flexible at all, and only really called for in cases where extremity-based solutions aren't physically an option
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm hoping for a brain-computer interface by the time I retire, so I can spend my last years in a virtual world, while the nurses handle my bodily functions
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: retire into the matrix
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: we can already make a mouse, keyboard, etc. with just a camera and laser/printout, and a monitor can be created with a projector...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but brain-control is a long way off
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes sonshi, that's the whole point of the smartboards ;-)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: well 5-10 years for practical use, and 30 to market
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: huh, never heard of that
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: never heard of that? and how many colleges have you been to around here?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's hard to find a school that doesn't have smartboards or an offbrand version
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... I don't see people using anything like that here, for some reason
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: low tech school
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but even k-12 market is huge for SMART
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm... yeah, can see how that could be really useful.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: we still use chalk though
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they basically have 2 types...expensive is a huge self-contained TV that rolls around, or the cheaper way is using projector to project onto whiteboard, with a sensor that mounts just about the whiteboard to watch the use
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: although rather than camera, the "chalk" is a piece of plastic that the sensor tells the location of
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the second ought to work with chalk too, right?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't actually draw on the whiteboard, the drawing is virtually done by the projector
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the first method might irritate people unless they figured out how to interpret rubbing motions as trying to wipe stuff out
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: ohhh
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I can see why it never really caught on here, I guess...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically, it knows what color "chalk/marker" you're using because the tray at the bottom has a spot for each color and the "eraser"
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lift off the blue, touch the whiteboard, and you just made a blue mark
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmmm...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I suppose the projector needs to be positioned to avoid blinding the speaker, right?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's nothing actually special about the markers, they're just placeholders and you can just use your knuckle, finger, etc...just a weight on the "blue" slot sensor
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your classrooms don't even have ceiling-mounted projectors?!?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: they point at the roll-down screen thing
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and I wouldn't want to stand in front of it and face the audience
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than showing movies, the projector is designed for you to stand in front of it and face the audience...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: normal educational uses, powerpoints, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, but you can do that because the area of the screen is small...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so you can stand to the side...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: would be pretty hard if the boards cover the whole wall
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd be using that same projection setup
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: math takes a lot of board real estate...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc was a math major
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah i can't imagine math professors wanting a light in there eyes...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the system might work for us if they could somehow project enough of the wall, yet not shine lights in our eyes...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, of course I'm old enough to have had plenty of math teachers using overhead projectors...those are a lot more light in your eyes than lcd projectors :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: maybe they should make touchscreen blackboards :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually they can, sonshi
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: santher: they do, which is what I was describing as their more-expensive option
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, but I imagine that it would be pretty expensive to cover one or two walls of a classroom
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: would be nice though...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need one or two walls of a classroom
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: write on one board, shift it to the side, write on another, shift it to another board, etc.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the beauty of it being all from a computer...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, you don't need it, but having more space is very useful for the students...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: there's a lot of stuff you'd want up at any given time
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one time isn't the same as during one session
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you never have to "erase" it, can flip the page, go back and forth, email the page to students, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, for many math courses, you'd want to have a lot of stuff up for reference
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: unless you want the students confused about what the definition of something was, or have them/you flip back and forth
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I guess math has changed a lot since I was in school...as I said, we used transparencies...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i remember those things :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, we used those when I was in primary school...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's one page at a time. period.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and secondary too, oftentimes...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah... for pre-uni it's not so bad
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: they drill you a lot, so you remember the definitions too
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we'd used them for calc 1-3, linear algebra, dif eq, discrete, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah 4 years of schoolling has to be dragged out to 12 somehow :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whereas in uni it's more like... here's the definition of something you've never seen before. Now we're going to do stuff with it.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: guess you guys are just slower than we were :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: or faster
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if you tried doing that with transparencies, people will be constantly goin "err, could you shift back to the first transparency, I didn't catch what the group axioms are"
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hand out definitions, turn to the page in the book with the definition, or have them write it down...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah, i'm going with faster :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher tickles you - hee hee hee. 
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't even know how to write something down or look in the book, doesn't sound all that quick to me :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, in uni they tend to skip all of that and just write it on a separate board so people can copy it down while they move on
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah seraching through a book is faster than looking at blackbaord... ok
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sonshi: I've been talking about in uni the whole time...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said anything about searching?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you seldom see people waiting for the students to finish copying unless they ran out of board space and people are still writing down stuff from two boards ago, etc.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you consider "turn to page 437 of howard anton" to be searching?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so you one page the size of blackboard?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, like I said, more board space isn't strictly necessary, but it's certainly very useful
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: most profs don't like to stop, after all...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah it's ram, you can never have too much :)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: most lecture halls at my uni had at least half a dozen blackboards iirc
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: err like ram
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: (I also can't remember the last time I heard a prof say "turn to page x of your book")
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: at uni you're expected to do reading outside of lectures...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gotta say I'm unimpressed with the school then...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we're not talking about doing reading
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i like the sound of that school
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: guess I'm no longer wondering what happened to the schooling in the US, I'm getting my answers :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: as far as I know, most of the so-called "top" schools just turn on the fire hose and let the students sort it out later. heh
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, it's pre-uni education in the us that is lagging, the tertiary system, at least at the top, is still well ahead...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that seems to be a pattern with schools
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: if online lectures (e.g. mit) is any indication, the tempo is very moderate for unis today
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: the higher up you get...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: oh, online lectures probably tend to be slower because they know they have to reach a more general audience, and you can't ask questions in real time, etc.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whereas in offline lectures, they go faster and faster as long as no one stops the prof to ask something
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: k
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: often prefaced with the warning along the lines of "I don't know how fast you can take it, but stop me if I'm going to fast, or I'll just speed up"
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: err, too fast
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Cain killd Abelinc hires the Micro Machine Man
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: (sadly, many students are afraid to stop the prof for fear of being seen as the slowest guy in class)
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so it ends up being "drinking from the fire hose" time
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's the age old problem with schools
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: best way to remedy that is to do the reading before the lecture, not after
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, everyone tells the students that
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but everyone also knows that most of the students won't do that
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: whoa, looking online at smart boards, those things are pretty expensive...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, they have the expensive all-inclusive versions, or the "add our sensor tech to your wall" versions
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: come to think of it, how do pre-uni teachers use it to their advantage vs previous methods... collaboration? Q/A stuff?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: it would be really useful if everyone brought their laptops to class and could access it in real time
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but they do have the "the projector is a foot from the wall" stuff, which alleviates your light-in-the-eye concerns as well
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, schools with laptop labs are great with it
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: you could ask random people questions, and they could write the answers on their laptop and have it display
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sadly, it's too expensive to outfit all our classrooms with stuff like this. heh
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can do that with normal classroom software with just the teacher's laptop connected to the projector as well
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, but if it's just the teacher connected, is there much of an advantage?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the smart advantage is the touchscreen-enabling stuff
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well... can't you do that on your own terminal?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if it's just the teacher connected, the student laptops would still be able to post to the screen without smart
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah... if they brought their laptops it would be useful..
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but you can do that without the smart boards too, if you just use regular projector/screen things
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right, that's what I meant
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah... I don't see how the cost is justified...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: when almost anything useful has a cheaper solution that's about as effective...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: smart brings the chalkboard/whiteboard interface to the computer
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not really
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but how much does that help?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: quite a bit
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, yeah, if you're writing on the chalkboard and you want people to post answers to questions written, I guess that'd be helpful...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in elementary, it helps in just the interface familiarity...in later, it helps in permanence/repetition
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as I said, you never have to erase a board or re-write it next semester, can email it to students, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: video camera
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, it's useful if you teach the same thing
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you think a video camera is "about as effective", then you truly don't have enough of a clue :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have many professors that have only ever taught courses once in their careers?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: they tend to switch around a lot, mostly.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and the upper level courses often change content
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're VERY short-sighted...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I can't see without my glasses!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "switch around a lot" is not "not the same thing"
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and upper level courses don't change entire content all that often
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, some of them don't change so much...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: a lot of the people who teach the same class repeatedly use slides instead of the board though
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: although some of them use the board because they prefer it...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hehe, didn't you poopoo the slides when I was talking about them earlier? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mmm, slides
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: when?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the entire start of the thread
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: slides with pigouvian taxation
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: yeah, because you have to flip back and forth... but if you're lazy and have the same slides prepared...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: might as well use them
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sometimes they use both slides and the boards though, so you'll have a bunch of definitions here, an important theorem there, a lemma here, and the slides
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I suppose you could just swap the screen out for a smart board system...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, and that still works with the smartboards
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but then you wouldn't really get much additional advantage, unless you're getting student/board interaction
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and teacher/board interaction...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: which would be useful for grad students like me, but useless for most profs who don't ask students to do stuff during lecture.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: eh, they don't interact with their slides much...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: would be useful for me, but grad students are cheaper than better tech
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they don't interact with their slides much because slides aren't interactive...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's kind of the point
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the technology allows you to do more than you do today because of the limitations of transparencies
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well... what kind of interaction do you have in mind?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: basically everything that is currently written on the primary blackboard (the one which IS erased multiple times per lecture, rather than the reference/side ones) would get benefit
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher looks quite flushed, she must be thinking about some 'group and heal' action.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would be creating new slides on the fly as easily as writing on the board
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but those using slides use that as the primary... the only thing getting erased would be the reference ones
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well... they create the slides beforehand anyway...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and if that fully worked, they would never be explaining anything...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: as people ask questions, opportunities abound
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, they talk, sure...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i prefer endless blackboards
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what this provides, tiger
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: but you could also "write" on your laptop/terminal with a touchscreen pen thing
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: blackboards don't go wrong
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and endless blackboards don't exist
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: so you just have 6
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 6 isn't endless, doesn't cover all courses in all subjects
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: well, if they got cheap enough so that they could cover two walls of each classroom cheaply with those things, it would be nice to do it
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can change classrooms and still be productive
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i don't remember blackboards ever being an issue in all my years of teaching/being tought
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: 6 boards tends to be good enough though, for most purposes...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: if only it were cheap... just having an inst-wipe would be nice
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, peppm price for smartboard 640 is under 800 bucks
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: hmm... apparently my uni does have some smart boards... just mostly in meeting rooms and such
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and the professional schools. What a surprise.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I was surprised that you hadn't experienced them...it truly is hard to find any school, elementary through post-grad, which doesn't have them
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: sure, put the nice tiling and the fancy chairs in wharton...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: rather than smart boards, I want chairs that don't give us backaches
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, it IS the business school...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: and desks you can fit a piece of A4 paper on.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're big in both education and in business/conference rooms
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you mean letter :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: would it kill them to give us a little bit more space?!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: A4...what kinda weirdo uses that? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: get virtual desk *inno*
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: heck, given that the only toilet in our wing on my floor was missing hot water for months, I'm not entirely sure they care too much in funding us...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi sobs in misery.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: eh, or whatever you guys call A4 here
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: probably uses imperial measurements too!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Sonshi ducks defensively.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: why would you want hot water in a toiler?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: toilet*
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: the taps
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: washing your hands
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: suck when you forget in winter, soap up your hands, and...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: okaaay, running across the building with drippy soapy hands
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or suck it up and rinse with cold
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: I come from a country that almost never falls below 20C even at night with freak weather...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: what if you need to have a gentelman's wash?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: only -5C here right now. beach weather
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: washing hands with water below 5C feels like some sort of torture regime to me
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: whats a gentleman's wash?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's 420F here in downtown LA, there are gusts of lead coming down Sunset, probably a good time to get out of the f**kin' city - here's Tom with the weather....
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's when you wash your strategic bits, elrast
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faulty Bot Elrast Tech: There is no lightbulb social.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Faulty Bot Elrast (
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Anyone here know what the watchdog table does in drupal?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: sofita is looking to turn on the map for blind player, can someone help
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: if anyone has any tech support for blind player, let sofita know
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: (*i have bast's and winkle's plugins*)  whats the command to tell mapper that this room is the one I want marked as the first in the area?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: xset
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: thats what I though, but its not working
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: xset mark
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't think bast has anything of that type, but winkle's mapper extender uses xset
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: extender help should tell you no?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: oh ok, got it.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just xset should tell you what the current is set to
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It doesn't for me
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But I don't think I've updated anytime recently
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: xset by itself is getting the same responce as entering ksjhfkljsdfh
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: "mapper help" and "extender help" usually solve all my problems
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You nod at Dresory.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: and xset mark here didnt work either.  but 'xset mark' alone worked.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: i usualy remember "mapper help", but the extender help i didnt remember, but thank you guys.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and when you don't remember which plugin you want the help for, "ww help" will give all winkle helps
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nacoty Tech: in the tintin++ client, what is the mintty.exe console?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: its for fresh breath.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nacoty Tech: what?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nubeiro Tech: not sure, but I think it is the terminal program, check the readme
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not really part of tintin++, it's basically a window to run it on under windows
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nacoty Tech: ok. you can connect to multiple muds at once,right?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tintin++ uses cygwin to run on windows, mintty is a cygwin terminal emulator
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If other MUDs existed, you could. But there's only one.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli's shifty eyes dart back and forth.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: welp Fiendish I kinda took your advice...
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Siren Cera Tech: that's usualy a good idea, fiendish is a smart guy
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: couldnt remember the exact model you recommended, but I got the FX-8320
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nice
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Anyone out there able to answer a question about the MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: It's usaully better to just ask the question, while giving your client and as much detail as you can.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: On MUSHclient v4,84 - is there a way to move my input line from the bottom to the top?
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Balls!  Thanks for the quick answer Abelinc!
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: If Abelinc says no, you can almost always take it to the bank and they'll give you full value on it.
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Good to know Menda!  -grin-
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: word of warning, upgrading wine to v1.5.20 killed my ability to run mushclient
T3/r7/2012-12-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: just fixed it by rolling back to 1.5.19
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duvala Tech: Would one be able to use mushclient on a tablet?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: can't see why not
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: blowtorch is awesome if your android like rumuor said 
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duvala Tech: Pardon my ignorance, but what's a blowtorch?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: by extrapolation, an android mud client
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Duvala Tech: Thank you :)
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Any cMUD pros around? I am trying to use #WIN to capture things to a child window so I can see them more easily
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: It works, except the color is lost. Any ideas?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use #CAP instead.
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though... #WIN should be working.
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What are you trying to capture?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: The thing is, I have something in the front of the string I want to capture
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: So it's hard to use #CAP... because I want that stuff gone
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i downloaded a pokemon nds rom for my ds emultor but it doesnt go past the first battle any ideas
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i downloaded a pokemon nds rom for my ds emultor but it doesnt go past the first battle any ideas
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yeah, don't do illegal downloads
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: you would'nt download a car would you ?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: if i could
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: You can download cars? What's th url???
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: plus, what makes you think he doesnt own the game already?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: his gameboy broke years ago, hed like to play on his laptop. 
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: yeah mine broke too
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom nods at Aqiz.
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: i found that pirated versions often work far better than the store bought version -- the pirates actually improved the product
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: lol, unlikely
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: btw, i bought all the commercial storesold games i play(ed)
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: me too i just cant get a new gameboy anywhere i live in a shitty town and far from any big towns
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ebay
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: amazon
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i live in south africa
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: example: pirated infocom games (Zork) are a pleasure to play -- the store-bought versions are horrid to play
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: A TWIST!
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: zork rocks
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: old school cool
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: in south africa the lions eat the FexEx guys ?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: FedEx ?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no it just costs about double the price to get it here then actually buying it
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: anyne know what it would take to create my own mud? a kick in the right direction wold be cool
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: google mud driver
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok in all serious plz help
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: remove the rom, re download a different upload
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: something is problly bad with that upload
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: hmmm, i wonder what the usage is like on running a mud server
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: I still have my raspi sitting at my desk at home. I want to do something sweet with it
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: raspbmc, home automation, nas?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: And sure, you could run a mud on it, no problem. At least if you are only on yourself....
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: good suggestions, My primary project is going to be a MITM box
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: POC only
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That was my "todo" list :D
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: I had another idea for doing some kind of installation in my car with touch screen and what not
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: not sure if there is drivers for that though,
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think a saw some video on youtube with just that application...
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Maybe you want android for that tho, perhaps you should look at something like the odroid instead
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: talking tablet?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: similar device as the pi, but for both android and linux
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: (technically android is linux, but you know what I mean)
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: shhhhh don't let everyone know that
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fae Wino Joelz gasps in astonishment.
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: I am running mushclient with mapper and extender plugins.  I have portals linked to this character but don't want the portals to trigger on my alt (b/c I don't have the portals on my alt). Is there a way to have this done?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: does anyone know how to get rid of the room name after every stats line? its rather annoying.
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: remove it from your prompt
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: how do i do that?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: help prompt
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: the aard wiki has a bunch of custom prompts that you can copy pate too
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: thanks much
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i got the pokemon working apperantly it had something to do with the sound i turned off 
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you make a timer to make a sound when you can quest again
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: In mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what client
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes mush
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Make trigger, match on the quest alert, and the bottom right corner will be where you can choose a sound
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: The bottom right corner of the trigger editor
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: in tt++ you do \;
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Elxi perks up, something must have grabbed his attention.
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: Anyone have any suggestions on a good VPN type to use for cell phone/tablet to connect to a home network? Preferably something I can run on my router under OpenWRT/Tomato/? not picky as to which
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: so i have a mac wireless keyboard and it seems the top row of keys (q-o) has decided they no longer want to work. Any ideas? 
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: is there a switch or key combo to change thier function ?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what's the effective age (actual + wear)?  If we can rule out general wear and longterm abuse, you either have some sort of switch or other feature-based issue or it got wet/dropped/dirty/somehow damaged.  Frequency of occurance (including intermittence) could also point to problems further along the line that aren't necessarily caused by something in the keyboard itself (ie, a problem with the receiver or the plug connection attached to the mobo)
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: have you tried turning it off, then back on again ?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyone know the mudlet escape character?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marsa Tech: escape character?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: to prevent ; from splitting lines
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, much like \ is for regex, or ~ is for CMUD/zMUD...
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: \ works before ; to escape it
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: in Mush, is there an option to change the browser type that opens when clicking a link?
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It should default to your default browser.
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: it does, just wondering if I can switch without changing my overall default browser
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: you can hack it with os.execute
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: something like os.execute('"C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" aardwolf.com')
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-12-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you want to specifically open links with a browser that isn't the one you always want to use?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So, I want to replace my current home nat (router) with a new device. I have a 100 mbit connection. Preferrably I want to be able to use IPv6 in it whenever my ISP makes that available. Anyone got any recommendations, or URLs to good sites with reviews?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: is there a new inventory addon ?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: how does the inventory addon work that comes with the mush client work .... doesnt seem to be enabled by defualt.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: is there a working inventory plugin yet?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Booyah, test currently in its 3rd day, miniwin_spellup has just passed the 200meg RAM threshold :D
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: Mush total RAM 571meg
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: that sounded complicated
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vakieh Tech: You might even say it was... technical o.0
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: BF that is why only people who really understand those things have tech on the whole time i think but that is my personal opinion
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: lol really now!?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BloodFlame Tech: grissom you have ALL the channels on >.>
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: only the important ones and for me FT tech and gossip are the really important ones
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nechta Tech: is there a way in mushclient to make a trigger NOT function for a given time, after it is fired?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is 17 hops to the mud bad or normal
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Hey there, anyone good with MUSH?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always best to just ask the question rather than asking if there's someone to ask
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Haha k thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: I was just wondering if anyone knows how to make a script that tells you how fast you complete a CP
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: there is already one
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Bast has some to do that
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Miss Tell Shaelynne Tech: I use Bast's 
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not sure if Winkle's times them or not
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}OhSir IvanHoe Tech: Thanks, I'll have a look at it
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger Bast, go to his site, I suggest clicking the Wiki tab and browsing the descriptions of all of his plugins to see which ones you're interested in. He has some overlapping (kind of "lite" and "deluxe" versions) plugins, so you won't want to just "enable 'em all"
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: When setting the level lock in mapper portals should you subtract for tiers?  Or set it to the actual portal level?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Actual level, mush accounts for tier
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dresory Tech: okay cool, thanks =D
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: always nice when backup exec decides to not start services
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how do i change the level of a portal in mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ooo symantec has trippy ass support music
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody have an addon that moves help text to a different window
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Used to be one for MUSH.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Don't know if it's still around
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: Anyone know why I am having to input everything twice in order for the game to recognize it?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is this okay Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: nvm
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: ok for what?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is 17 hops to the mud ok
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: did you say mother may I?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mine is [Version 6.1.7601]
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I've never checked hops
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Help lag has some info on hops
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 7 sp1 i guess,,,,
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: It says Lasher has 14 hops to the MUD, so I think 17 is fine
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine is [Version 6.2.9200] -- you guys are outdated.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: pfft win 8 sux :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: Agreed
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have 14 hops to Aardmud.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: it has to be better then WinME
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And Win 8 is actually pretty decent. I'm surprised.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 9 hops here :)
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You can't say something sucks without having tried it. ;)
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: Win7 is actually pretty stable
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 7 rox
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: As is Debian 6.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: -ANY- OS is better than Windows ME. :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: i got win 8
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Win 8 is decent from a usage standpoint, but it's definitely not making be bust down doors to get it installed on my box.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: That was Microsoft's real issue, when they released there wasn't the kind of buzz their used to.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: i just got it cuz i got new desktop and laptops for xmas
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Is win 6 vista?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: I got a new laptop in October, but I d on't know if I'll ever take advantage of that free upgrade to Win8
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Vista is vista, nobody called it win 6.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: calls*
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 6 is vista/7/and 8...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: so win 6 is win 7... ok
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: it
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Testure Tech: opps...its ...interesting
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 7 is what win 6 shoulda been :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: win 6 just never should have been.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dareau Tech: The weird versioning scheme could get really confusing for the technologically impaired. There's Windows 7, but internally it's called Windows 6.1.76XX, etc :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: 15 hops here
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Most end users would go comfortably never knowing what Win 6 is, and never needing to.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: win 7 is pretty much win 3.11 vs 3.0
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: How does one run a python script using ActivePython?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: children today don't get the joy of rearranging autoexec.bat and config.sys to play wolfenstein.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Mye beams a smile at Ontuct.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I once deleted those files to make space for installing Doom v1.6 :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Can't you just do python <file> from the shell?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: waking the daemon
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I don't know, I'm trying to help Ani.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: but if i had a dollar for everytime i deleted a system file... :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I take it no one else uses ActivePython here.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I have it installed, dunno that i'd say i 'use' it though
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Tell her to read this: http://docs.activestate.com/activepython/2.5/gettingstarted.html
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: you'd have enough for 2 grande from starbucks
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Add the python.exe to the PATH variable, and then you can do python <file> in the shell, iirc
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Well, I was hoping http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ansi2html/0.9.3 could be set up and run.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: I don't see why she can't.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: write the file, save it to ~/File, then call python ~/file_name.py
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: anyone have a windows 8 laptop?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: best buy...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I'm assuming python setup.py would properly set up the package for use in Windows.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have a laptop with Windows 8 on it, ARystul.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Should, Trur. Python is cross platform.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Except when it crosses to Windows it gets hit by an 18-wheeler.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chaz Bono Cheezburger Tech: Love that analogy.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Hmm where is readlines defined?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: Bah, sorry about the colours.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher makes magical colors with a wave of her hand.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's okay, we all do colors every once in a while.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sit like a Trurien Tech: I've never seen AttributeError: readlines before.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that sounds either like a virus or an anti virus thing :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mis
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Ping to aardmud.org Min: 62ms Avg: 63ms Max: 64ms}
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: damnit
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: just jacked up my alias list :(
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I hope you've learned the value of backups by now...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: write them into addons
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: safer
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zider Tech: anybody have cool addons they could share for aard?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: what platform?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: actually i just wiped my backups with new ones thinking they were all good, they werent
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have the portal_query handy for the mapper
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: because mapper portals doesnt display the full command shaves off a couple chars so some of my alias' dont work anymore lol
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i use ingame aliases to solve that
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: then set mapper to that alias
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i would upgrade... but i really believe in "if it aint broke, don't fix it" :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: Mush is self-contained, I suppose you could always install a separate copy to just play around with it.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's what i would do
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and copy the old map files over etc
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: so i still have files/folder there
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: when i do upgrade it'll be to a thumb stick...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: sick of not having my mapper at other places :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you got one now?  Why wait, when you can ease into it bit by bit while still deciding if you want to make the jump.  If you don't, your old stuff's still there unchanged; if you do, you won't have the mountain of crap working to distract/discourage you.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause i'm lazy
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: heck, one's probably big enough you could simply install both your serious-business version and your messing-around version on the same drive.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: nods picked up another 8gb stick the other day for 8 bucks...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: 1 dollar per gb... gawd i remember paying 200 for 4mb of ram...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: that reminds me, I need to go get some.  I'm just afraid that since I'm a big pockets sort of guy that I'll end up crushing them somehow before I get much use from them.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: get a good one then that's small/round/covered... i leave mine in my pocket all the time... if not that's what shirt pockets are for :)
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you should see my blackberry, for example.  Still under contract, and it already looks like it went a few rounds in an empty dryer.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: dont keep loose change in your pocket?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: i heere ya, i work with furnaces and oil tanks... i tend to bang things up too :)
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: or keys? :)
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yes
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: use different pockets for each. its what I do
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Santher nods.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: heck, get a pocket protector *inno* :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I can't put it on my belt, I seem to have wide girlie hips and I always knock those off pretty frequently (or move on the job in ways that knock it off frequently as well.)
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alucard Tech: is there any command i can use on mush so f1 f2 f3 triggers?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: you want accelerators i believe...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: is there an easish way to get much to send keystrokes?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what kind of keystrokes?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: mush
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and send them when?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just type them into the big action box for the trigger, alias, etc
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: f2?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Why do you want to send F2 to the MUD?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mokg Tech: theres a helpfile on how to rebind f2
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause he's got some weird plugin
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you want to be able to USE F2, then go to global prefs under file menu and select that it's a macro
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that uses f2
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird plugin doesn't change the fact that aard doesn't know what f2 is, so you definitely don't want it to be sent
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: with a function
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah that's what i figured
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you just want it to not be help, so you want to do what I suggested
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or look at the FAQ entry on Fiendish's site which says the same thing
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ah that site blows... how do i find the FAQ? :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the site rules...it's where you would expect to find information
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: well normally there'd be a link...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are many links
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're not trying to download, you don't have an issue, and you're not looking for the source...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so, that leaves?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah and i don't one that says FAQ
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: Your search did not generate any results. 
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: search?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: where on earth are you searching?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: it's ok i found it... it's not what i needed anyways
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still quite curious where you were searching, cuz it definitely wasn't on Fiendish's site
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: cuz?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cuz
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/issues/list?can=2&q=faq
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since we established earlier that you were not looking for reported issues, why were you in the issues tab?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: cause i didn't know better
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't know better...wow. truly, wow.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that site isn't what you could call "user friendly"::P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually it's extremely user friendly
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: and yet i always have trouble with it :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the FAQ is exactly what anyone with an IQ over 60 would look
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: most FAQ's have a hyperlink in an obvious place
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: not hidden away
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is a hyperlink in an obvious place
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and it's not hidden in the least
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: lol
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ok you're right, if you say so
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, that link is where anyone with an IQ over 60 would look
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: ok stfu now
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Harperon Tech: 60 you say? I guess that explains why I've never found it.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the site has 5 main sections/tabs at the top...we've established that "downloads" isn't normally where to go for information...we've established that "source" isn't normally where to go for information...we've established that "issues" isn't normally where to go for information...that leaves 2
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: "project home" is, well, the project's home page...
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mystryl Tech: So, for people who are trying to find the FAQ's, it's under wiki. Halfway down the left navi menu is a link called "Client guides/FAQs"
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that leaves one thing...and that one thing has been entirely synonymous for the past 5 years with "a place to go on the Internet for information"
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: home page should have a faq, anyone with an IQ higher than there shoesize knows that
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: When using MUSHclient 4.84, is there a way to move all the windows back to their default location?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mendaloth Tech: try "restartaard"
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try aardreset or resetaard
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: yeah but be warned, that resets your fonts too
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhovar Tech: 'resetaard' worked - Thanks folks!
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Is there a way to enable all of your spellups in Bast's spellup program? This is the second remort now where I've gone back to level 1, and then it automatically disables everything because it tries to cast all the spellups I no longer know, and I'm tired of going through 30+ spellups one at a time to try and re-enable them.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bsp sadd all
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Santher Tech: that's what she said :P
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I already have them added, I just wanted to re-enable them.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: bsp senable all?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Can't do that, because then it tries to enable "call upon faith".
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so then disable call upon faith if you want
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The helpfile, similarly, doesn't list any "enable all" function, either.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should be re-enabling them automatically as it sees you prac them
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: The problem isn't re-enabling them, it's the fact that when I remort, it thinks that I still have them all, and then disables everything.  When I re-learn them, they stay disabled until I manually enable each individual one.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I'd rather just tell it to enable everything again and stop being so retarded, but therein lies my problem - no "enable all" function.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: submit a bug report
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you don't want it to reenable all of them
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the same reason that it disabled them
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't have all of them back at level 13
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: I know that.  But if I enable them, it's not as if it keeps trying to spam them - if I pause the plugin, for instance, and refresh it, it doesn't cast anything, but the ability is enabled to be ready for when I learn it.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Ideally I don't want to have to re-enable them in the first place, I'd just rather they not continually disable themselves.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Err, not continuously, but rather when I remort*
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: submit a bug report
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lulz Tech: Yeah, started writing it.  Maybe it's something Bast can figure out.
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it should be trivial to add senable all
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Westclox Tech: how do i change the level lock on a portal in mush?
T3/r7/2012-12-31.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aliens Tech: delete it the re-add it