T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Anyone on Freenode IRC? :)
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anything useful to do with a lot of random chargers for small devices? Hotel I work at has a drawer full of stuff left and never claimed.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Lend them to visitors for free. I would appriciate a hotel that did that, I always forget chargers.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: We do
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Still racking up too many
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: anyone know how much onboard memory a p4m80p foxconn mother board has?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: jfgi
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: huh?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: there a linux version of mushclient-aard/
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you have to use wine under linux
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though if you can program you could adapt mush to linux - you can get source code for mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: nod, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That would probably be a major undertaking, like man-years of effort (I would guess).
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: think mushc already has something in that direction, will check it out
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: man-years? don't think so unless it require total rewriting
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm just guessing, haven't even seen the code, and don't use mush :D
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably using some more portable toolkit like QT could make matters easier
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean it still could be used under Win with the same code
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so there is no problem with forking and then porting back changes from new versions of vanilla mush
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: haste attacks in dtrack hits, does it only track haste, or does it bundle haste and lightspeed?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sheeeeeit. been listening to music with my new amp all evening and it's fucking amazing
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Hell yeah!
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the amp is amazing tho
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds even better because i had to use crappy 2.1 desktop speakers for a month
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: OMG the speakers I have now are badass compared to my 2.0 desktop speakers from the 90s.  Had those puppies since I was 7.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I loved those things... beige and they had a bass toggle that did nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i need new speakers. current ones are good, but not good enough
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Seltsimees, you can always use better speakers.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: I love a good speaker setup
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: harman/kardon hk 680i with pioneer z-s92 speakers
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i think i should invest in proper monitors
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: also, the pioneers are freaking huge. at least when kept on the desk
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have junk desktop speakers that i barely ever turn on or up at all but as soon as i do the neighbors complain
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: maybe the neighbors just don't like the quality of sound and i should get something better and louder
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: why not something fresh? like dextard?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: bleh. mis again
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i should stop drinking
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: you obviously haven't drank enough. you caught that was a mischan
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I have one of those "is is possible questions :)
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: is is possible
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: is it* even
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anywho i have a 3drive raid 5 right now
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: thanks for letting us know. much appreciated
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: they are 3 - 2T drives
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: sounds possible to me
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I know I will sleep better knowing it
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: I picked up a 4T drive and instead of just adding it and losing the extra 2T could I partition it and add both partitions to the raid?
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: yeah. basically a mirror with a spare
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: only 4tb of the new drive would be used
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: er 2tb
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea i figured that, didnt know if i could split partition it or if it was stuck to only using the 2T
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: you cann't increase or decrease the total size of the raid array without recreating it
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: was going to "grow" it
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: software raid ?  or hardware raid
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: software
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: home
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: but wasnt sure if it was worth attempting - didnt want to jack my raid completly
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: i woulda thought to grow it you'd need to replace all 3 drives with 4tb
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: depends on how the software works.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: but by "grow" i imagine it means adding in a new 2tb disk
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: possible, i havnt attempted it - i have openmediavault sitting on a debian squeeze box
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: thus making it 4 drives
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: yea i would assume the same thing - i didnt know if i could add 2 partitions making it think 5 rather than 4
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Thunderous Norton shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: i might just use the 4tb for backup for now until i grab a few more drives
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: they had the 4t externals for 130 so i picked it up
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: How to mark room as first room in area with mapper? Forgot syntax
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: How to mark room as first room in area with mapper? Forgot syntax
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: mapper help
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's not on that list
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: If you have winkle's addons, xset mark
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: thank you riddim!
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Riddim Tech: It's not part of the mapper (?)
T3/r7/2013-04-01.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I see, thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: in mush, whats the plugin called that has miniquest, cp, gq in a little box called?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: winkles search and destroy?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: no dont think thats it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: its by bast
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: ya
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: got it back
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: any websites with free anti virus thats good out there?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: If you're using Windows 7+, the builtin security essentials is pretty good.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Soft and Silke Tech: check out CNET.I've had good luck with the DLs from there.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i cant find the built in security essentials program my programs on the pc dont want to open
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: security essentials isnt pre loaded afaik. need to d/l and install it from MS site
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-download <-- said site
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: any advise on how to get pc to open files and allow me on internet?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: That is a very vague question, Roque
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: format windows, reinstall
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Did you try the "work as expected" button?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: damn so i will need windows cd then
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: It's a good thing to have on hand anyway
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: ok no format no nothing ava anti virus wants activation code i dont have and i cant connect to internet so do i throw pc against wall and see if that works?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Out the window will suffice.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i cant even find were to deactivate this ava thing
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Grab a thumb drive, place on the hard drive what you want to keep, format the computer, reinstall OS. The 'nuke it from orbit' approach
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you forgot "stop using computers" part, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vakieh: You forgot to say "Give it to Dagnir because he will just put a super magnetic to the computer for you instead."
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: if i could format it i would it doesnt want to be formatted
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: and thanks for the jokes i know i suck with computers
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: take it to someone who is
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: If it does not want to be formated, then you have a living being trying to stay alive on you.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: funny i cant get it to format if it was living i wouldve sold it and made billions
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Or it would just reformat your harddrive and take over you.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: guys want 1000 bucks to fix it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sneak Tech: what, rupees?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: whats rupees?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Rupees is the currency of India. Sneak was being snyde.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: Rands think they worth a little more then rupees
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, rupees are the currency of the land of hyrule!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: screw rupees who knows how to format a pc that doesnt want to be formatted
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: formattree C:\ /Y
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 1 t in formatree i think, now that I look at it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: Stop trying to give him your famous recipe for Cream of Harddrive Soup.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: he said he wanted to format... that's what that command does
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or better yet, get a Knopix or other linux disc and format it as ext4 and use Linux like a real boss :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: hi i have a question i have downloaded and installed tha Winklewinkle extender gui _2_8 ,Mapper extender , s&d plugin.. and i dont see the search and destroy window you get when it is installed please help me 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: probably under some windows, try sending some to back
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: i already checked cant seem to find it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And when you installed it, you got a message that the plugin was installed in your main window?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: yes i did 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You installed all 3 plugins that comes in the winkle package?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: yes i did 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't know that it matters (it shouldn't) but I always suggest installing the GUI plugin last.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok ill try again thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: it doesnt seem to help much i am still not getting the window
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You sure it's not hidden behind your main world?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: as sure as i can be 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I really have no idea, then
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: thanks then ill try redownloading from website
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what program or coding langauge is best suited for a beginner programmer to create a 3D game in
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Unity
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Unity, most likely.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how much does it cost
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Free to use, have to pay to publish
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So you can learn/fiddle with it as much as you like at no cost, but if you plan to sell the game then you have to pay them
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i see interesting ill check it out thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or, wait till sprint and get Project Anarchy
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: spring*
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Which, if all goes according to intent. Will be a 100% free game development platform. Production and all.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am looking at the website it looks to me like more of a graphics creation program than a code langauge.if me and friends are making a game i will only do the code not any graphics what will suggest then
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: You're going to need both sides... your language has to control your graphics... Unity has the built-in scripting language, built on Mono
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: this channel is french to me
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can'y make games without graphics :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: can't*
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers with Helperful Cheezburger about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nods, Unity is a very C#-like language
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can, IIRC there was one contest for doing games for blind
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's called a MUD :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto crosses his arms and nods slowly and sagely to Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: text based chess is a mud?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It was a joke, dude
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Lol
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok thanks  i will try it if only the file wasnt so huge i hate having a internet cap.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: torrent it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and by huge i mean over one hundred mega
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: could cloudy skies and lighting affect 3G HSDPA and EDGE
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: probably not terribly imo
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: only satellite afaik?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sunlight will affect it more than clouds will, actually
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: so if you normally get 5 signal bars but then suddenly have one it is most likely the tower?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: tower could be full
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: or you could be living in Ermelo , Mpumalanga
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you are able check whether you are logged to the same base station as usual - that could say something
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you can just try to log off and log on - there is chance you will log to better station
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though that won't work if it is only station in your neightbourhood
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sometimes my dad gets 1 kbps at his work then at other times 1 mbps and he is in the middle of town
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that really doesn't matter
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: in urban areas usually there are more stations, but not all are equally fast / good
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i see thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And some have more traffic and thus less bandwidth for the individual
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, each station has its capacity - let's say it will log only 100 connections, so 101 connection has to be served by another station
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: also, weather, strong EEM can influence signal - so you may be switched to worse station, just because it appear to have better signal
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: err, EM or EMR rather not EEM
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: up = 480 b/s down 1.60 kb/s
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The point was clear regardless :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and that was in the middle of a fight
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Your state on aardwolf doesn't influence your up and down.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, it affects your current traffic, but not your overall speed.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well maybe my number of hops can be the reason for the lag
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Doubtful
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: how much onboard graphics does a motherboard usually have?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have 23 hops
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger boggles at DragoDrake Dragoknight.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it depends on the build in GPU
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: how do you quantify onboard graphics?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: built-in*
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: graphics card fried...
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and now there is lightning great
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DragoDrake Dragoknight Tech: do i need chipset to activate graphics...already got s3 thing
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What are you even asking?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: maybe he's building a diy mobo? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If he's asking questions like that, he's way out of his league for mobo dev :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I miss S3 virge
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Tigerdirect -> msi/gigabyte/asus mobo -> buy -> viola
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I think what you're looking for is to google "<insert GPU model here> benchmark"
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do you remove the {chan ch=debate} tag
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tags channels off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: thanks that was hell irriating
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and the <mapend>
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tags maptags off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: just type tags
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you can turn them all off by doing tags off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you can turn them all off by doing tags off
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no prob cheeze thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: I'm on bbssh, when i minimize the client and maximize it after a few minutes, its disconnects and shows a message with my ip adress that this user tries to connect to aard.. it happens quite allot now.. any ideas why?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: any ideas on what to do when Trigger function "invmon" not found or had a previous error. starts showing up all the time? tried reloading mush, reloading both eqdb and mneq plugins and it still keeps coming back.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: just started about half an hour ago.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: happens to me sometimes. try reloading and doing eqdb refresh
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: reload mush? or eqdb plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: just the plugin, but you can do the command first then reload
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: kk. ty. will give it a go.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: most of the errors I get with that plugin are fixed with a refresh
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: appears to be better. tyvm. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: my score window went poof
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: shift+ctrl+p select the stat plugin, click reinstall
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if it's not in that list, that's your problem. Click add and select it
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's 'statmon' correct?
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: probably not
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: not if it's one that's included in aardmush
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, by the looks of it it might be
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have statmon off, none of the scripts try to turn it on, and my score window works fine
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So i opened up the plugin, and it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I do have the aardmush... it's the only one with "stat" in the name
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nah, it's called statmon but it uses gmcp
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: reinstall that plugin, if that doesn't work try 'resetaard'
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what does that mean?  I looked in the directory, and saw statmon_gmcp, but attempting to install it returns the message that it is already instelled... 
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ACK!!!!!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: add != reinstall
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I "resetaard-ed"... oh golly - oh my!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll never recover from this!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it just moves your windows back to default positions, completely reversable
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it worked, though... stat window is back
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I spent at LEAST 40-50 hours getting those windows juuuuuuuust right!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In other words, you covered up your stat window at some point :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If it takes you 40 hours to move 7-9 windows, you've got some OCD issues :P
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... I was kidding about the anal-retentiveness... I slid all the windows around looking for the stat window befor I went to tech channel
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not sure where it was, but it's back now.  take me 30-40 seconds to rearange them.  THANKS everyone!
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sorok Tech: is there a way to view a list of queued spells/actions when using the official client
T3/r7/2013-04-02.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Stama Tech: echo test for reply. 3G speed test
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: anyone had any problems with mushclient crashing windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Incredible Iceman Tech: mine doesnt
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: mine neither
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: How do you know it's MUSH that's doing it?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: mush freezes and then not even control alt delete will work, only does it in mush
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: virus scan!
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel failed the scan!  Log off!  Log off!
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: did 2 virus scans, both negative
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: freezes how?  does the cursor still move when you move the mouse?  you have to manually power off the comp?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: have to manually power off the computer
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: and the mouse?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: moves, but wont shut anything off
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sounds like something uses 100% processor
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: well, that would do it, i get the circle thing saying it's processing
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: after you pressed contr alt del, how long did you wait for something to happen?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: any suggestion, been doing it off and off for days, today 4 times in 20 min
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: reinstalled mush already I assume?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: no, haven't done anything
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try downloading the latest mush and install that one. see what happens
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dont install all extra plugins yet. First see if mush runs correctly then start installing extra plugins
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: sounds good
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: where do you get it again?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: finger fiendish for the url
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: xp support will be gone in 1 year and 5 days. can't wait
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, it's a pain in the ass. What am I to do with my windows boxes?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: So what, everyone will just stay at their current level?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: lol, people still use windows?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, the alternative is mac if you need word
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: linux
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: noticably short on word
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: you can download libre office, does the same as microsoft word except it's free
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: heh. rabid linux enthusiasts
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yep, that's true, does the same, except for the working with word docs that other people send you bit
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: libre office supports that
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it also comes with a windows .exe installer these days
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no, it really doesn't. Powerpoint is worse.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: disagree, but whatever, just a suggestion
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: except you can't use libre in corporate environment
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir . o O ( i use libre on my windows machines )
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but hey - desktop linux sucks
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and IE. I have to use that as well. Thanks SAP.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: linux is great on servers and antiquated hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and embedded devices, of course
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: and a desktop, particularly a technical desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: right up until someone sends you a word doc
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i guess it's good for software development, but not for professional productivity
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: well, that depends on what you are trying to produce of course. Still, anyone on a mud has little call to talk about productivity
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, often the argument seems to be that linux is great because it does everything almost like windows (on the desktop). so why bother if it doesn't offer you anything extra?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: yeah, it's free, but oem license costs you almost nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: it's a good question -- for technical computing, it offers a lot extra
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but that's pretty much server environment already
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: headless number crunching etc
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: no I was thinking more of scientific computing, stats, data analysis and so on
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: is what I use it for
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Seltsimees Dagnir nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's just that the rabid fanbois are annoying
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Swalec Tech: yeah, they can be. Almost as bad a mac users at times. This is a big advantage with windows. Lots of people use it. No one likes it. 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i like it
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i also like linux
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i can't seem to develop the stockholm syndrome with linux desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes just got unity
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Soonish project anarchy will do it's initial release, that might be something to look into also
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: 100% free, don't have to pay to publish or sell
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but in the meantime unity is. IMO, the best place to get a start.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: sounds sweet will look into it
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: looks cool if a bit confusing
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i cant get the code to use in Unity to move the character any ideas i am using javascript
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: That's a bigger question than what you just asked.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: You'd have to explain what your code does, how you've integrated the java into unity, and a lot more than "it's not moving, help".  
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok simpler question i think. what do need input for the program to perfrom a action when lets say the spacebar is pressed
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: raw tty?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: can someone please provide me with the link to download visual studio 2010 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you can't just google it?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Superjuicy Tech: ^
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am trying but am not getting the right site
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Visual+Studios+2010+Download
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i want to make sure would XNA be the best for making First person RPG for PC
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: depends on who you want to compete with.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i only want to gain experience in making games so i dont want to compete
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: "making games" is far too broad.  You've got coding, graphics, storyline, and audio.  If you're trying to gain experience for a later career attempt, you're going to end up in one of those areas and almost never will be handling stuff across those boundaries.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: He wants to do the coding, he's said.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: programming only 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What coding do you know already?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: bit of java busy with dephli at school
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: probably best to go generic then.  Build up a library of simple projects to demonstrate particular concepts, and don't limit yourself to stuff dedicated to gaming.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you want to use what you know, use Java and do mobile dev
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's all Java and XML, super simple once you get started.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I doubt it's at all like it nowadays, but back in the day gamers used to do all sorts of things so wrongly they were basically useless in other programming aspects.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am just getting depressed now i might as well become a janitor.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing wrong with that :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're easily dissuaded like that, programming wasn't for you anyways :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: go drink some coffee and think about it
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Coffee, followed by red bull and/or mtn dew, followed by pizza, rinse and repeat until you live in front of your screen
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: crt gives a better tan than led imo
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: gaming is still "glamorous" (a nerd's version of pro sports, really), but it's really still a very small portion of the coding world.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: trust cheeze programming is the only thing i want to do i work hard at my IT and Hanslanda some people like a small world
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, and no. It's rapidly growing on mobile. Over 30% of all apps are games now.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Because you'd be amazed how much stupid crap you can sell to people on an iphone :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: also, you have to cater to the average.  It's gonna drive you crazy that you have all this higher-end gear to do your work on, yet you're largely going to be making stuff for things a generation or two earlier.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok Hanslanda let me put it to you like this i have friend who can do the graphics and another who can do the sound and i get 94% for my programming at school so i focus on the code because i get it and games are a small piece of coding but it is the piece i love 
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: School projects != group up creation of a game :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ground*
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: schoolwork seriously will not really prepare you for the real-world.  Particularly if your first instinct is to look for shortcuts like XNA or other packages to make your life easier.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I had a 3.8 GPA doing coding in college, but it didn't prepare me in the least for creating my first app, much less my first game.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Except physics packs :P Life's so much easier when you don't have to build the physics and collision logic yourself :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: my college roommate did cs... I remember him talking about collision detection, ai, lighting, blah blah blah. Sounds like a lot of work
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yeah, that kind of thing is nice but if you can't even understand the concepts you're just going to dig your hole deeper than you find comfortable.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, you have to teach two separate blocks of code when they're touching each other. Not hard, per se, just lots of manual work
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: most packages are either going to have a bug you ultimately will slam head-first into or will be designed for some niche that isn't exactly compatible with yours.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: optimising it is hard though...
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well can someone just answer my original question please then ill wont use the tech channel anymore OK
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What's your 'original question'? You've asked quite a few
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: he showed me some pictures of pouring balls (2D) through a funnel or something. Think they got graded on how many could get through before it broke or within a certain time, or something.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ie, how many instances could it run before it ran out of memory?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok i want to make sure would XNA be the best for making First person RPG for PC
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, you have been answered.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: maybe, I don't know that much about cs, so the stuff he did just amazed me. heh
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Read everything Hans has said. he already explained the pitfalls of XNA and the likes.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: XNA may in fact be the best for what you are asking, but it's not going to be a tool for you to learn on.  Such things are meant to provide shortcuts for the people who already know this stuff and need to focus their time on actual content creation (usually for a paycheck).
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: to me it seemed he was telling me i am stupid and shouldnt make games and hans what do you recommend then
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I think you just need some direction. Why don't you build a simple little game. 2 2D balls in a 2D square. Make them move at each other and bounce back when they collide. There's the start of your first game, go from there.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You have your sights set WAY to high for your first game project
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: for a person who wants to learn programing but is not a expert who is 18 and cheeez does a few games in gamemaker count.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Age is irrelevant. I'm only 20 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: what? young people should be prohibited from using *tech* channel
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: approach things from the raw programming direction.  Databases, OOP, classes, and all the other things that will probably make you think programming = boring.  That will give you a useful foundation to learn on, and if gaming happens to fail for you then you won't fall back too much.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: gaming concepts are really just variations of all that, so if you can jump into the gaming pool with all of that stuff moreorless understood the only thing you have to concentrate on are the "how does this fit into gaming?" parts.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The first game I ever build, was a super-simple, yet vastly helpful project. Simple little side-scroller game, with pitfalls and stairs, could shoot to kill enemies, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if you want to create / produce game you should decide who you are: game inventor / designer (in terms giving ideas) or programmer / designer (in terms designing levels, sound, graphics, etc)
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: built* apparently I can't speak in past tense today :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i try to make simple i just lack the creativity i can do the code and all but the story the graphics and levels are my weak points
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you REALLY want to get some gaming work in as well, take a full weekend or so to just tear apart a library or local bookstore looking through various programming how-to books on gaming.  There are a lot of them put out there by gaming legends.  It won't really matter how dated the topics are, as most of the core concepts outlast the products they were featured in.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: though probably first you should get on programming concepts before starting with game programming
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Trachx.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: you gotta walk before you run
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: definitely, but can't really prevent impulse and drive.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And as much as you're going to hate it, you have to crawl before you can walk
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's nothing wrong with being driven, but understand that you can't just dive into a VAST field with a little big of programming under your belt and expect it to all fall together perfectly.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: cheezburger is a buzzkill
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok so in other words create small applications like a calculator or database storer in easy to use programs and take it from there?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Actually, that'd be perfect.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Grounded != buzzkill :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or, something that might work better to get you started. Build yourself a little single-player MUD
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or SUD, if you will :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you could develop game similar to Sokoban or Arcanoid or Pacman - this probably would be more interesting than calculator and is only a bit more complicated
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sokoban might not work.  The gameplay and the coding would be quite simple indeed, but the data's gonna be based on complicated concepts not really intended for novices.  A great game's gonna be a really poor one if you can't come up with scenarios. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Create a Mahjong game :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Hardest part of that is the psuedo randomizing sequence
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: hey what is the prompt I need again to stop seeing the {affoff} tags after a spell wears off?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tags spellups off
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone happen to sell samsung image units for printers?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone else notice a memory leak from hell on mush when leaving it running consistnetly?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Explain.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't know how to clarify it any more... it keeps using more and more ram in exponential growth patterns
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you sure it's an actual leak and not just some runaway trigger or just how the scrollback buffer is being handled?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I know it's not a trigger, not sure about the scrollback; haven't really dug into that.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: I have 500k lines buffered and so on. It never gets pass 39% for me. If it does, then I just close and re-open.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: the fact that you have to close and re-open means you've noticed the leak too :P
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Cheezburger: I was also running Adobe Elements 10, which was running around 45% to 55% the same time it happened. So, I do not know.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: in CMud, the scrollback used to be defined based on the longest line length of ANY line that ever passed through it since the app was last opened.  This made it look like there was a leak as the likelihood for progressively-longer lines goes up the longer you play.
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: how do u reload miniwin for events and quests/cps if it is closed?
T3/r7/2013-04-03.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: for mush
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: has anyone here done a lot of research on the difference in tablets? Considering purchasing one, but unsure of what to get.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having a slight problem with my client (using Bast's mush) remembering whether or not I removed a plugin even though I save my world file on exit - I've removed my broadcast spellskills, saved, and exited but when I reopen mush it is back and installed
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: another one of his plugins probably reuire it and therefore re-install it when they are loaded
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohh
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: what will happen if I delete it from the directory?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it will stop workin
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: boo, hiss. THanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: not deleted one, the one that reuires deleted one
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: righ
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: t
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: is it possible to make muschlient to create a little window, with "VOTE" button that does all the painful work for you?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: By "painful work" do you mean clicking a link?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: It hurts his clicker finger.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel ducks under cover!
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I thought MC supported clickable urls anyway. For me I just have to click either of the urls in help voteurls
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: hi
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Hi
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: what would you consider the best ebook reader for pc?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: amazon cloud reader
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: kindle cloud reader?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Same thing
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: i like calibre, never tried cloud though.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thought s/\he ment amazon seach it >.>
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: looking at -h, for hwu's question earlier, http://code.google.com/p/bastmush/wiki/miniwin_vote
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: amazon isn't a search engine
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: it's a online store?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It does sell stuff, though :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: an online store which has some of its own software
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: alright
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: I've heard mixed reviews for calibre. folks saying the newer versions aren't that good
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just so you know, you can only use your amazon account on 5 devices. The cloud reader only counts as 1 no matter how many computers you use it on. Just an FYI
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Calibre is a nice ebook management tool, but has a lousy reader. Cool reader is pretty good for android, I think it is available for other platforms as well.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: B&N and Amazon have free apps to read books on Android, and it's not hard to *cough*aquire*cough* ePub files.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Also, not hard to buy them.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: using windows 7 pc
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Buying is a form of awuiring
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: aquiring*
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: true
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: just looking for something good to start reading this wheel of time series a friend recommended
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, I have amazon, borders and b&n apps on my devices
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Actually, they usually come with DRM junk, so you have to strip that. May not be legal is some places.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: in some*
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm fairly sure those are all on the Amazon store, then you can read them on cloud reader.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for just reading a few books, there's no such thing as a good or bad reader, really
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I like dead trees, personally.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The books make the reader :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I prefer reading physical books, but I prefer storing digital books :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: haha i guess but the files are all jumbled got some epub .lit n mobi's of it so trying to cover bases
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're also downloadable in ebook from the library :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Nice, i haven't visited a library in a while, didn't know they started doing that.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: we've had ebooks and audiobooks for about 5 years
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Like I said, a while :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: School library doesn't do that, and that's all i've used in probably the lat 5
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for the less tech-savvy, the "playaways" are nice...old folks and kids
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: do you work at a library?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I ran the IT department at a library system for 7 years
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: oh very cool
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: by any chance was this in a new york chain? I think I owe a book from like the 2nd grade and if you could pull some strngs to make that disappear can give you a TP >.>
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: wait for amnesty day ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wasn't in new york
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: don't you need the book for amnesty day?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: they have digital lending of ebooks and e-audiobooks at the local system here. the selections are still pretty horrendous, causing massive waiting lists for any book people actually want to read. still though, it seems to be getting better slowly
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: many larger systems, which have better selections, offer cards to non-residents
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Could I get one if I live in Sweden? I mostly read english books anyways...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: i will look into that as well. I had no idea that was possible
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for example, free library of philadelphia, residents/workers can get card normally (free), anyone in PA can get access to their stuff by getting an AccessPA endorsement on their local library card, and out of state people can get a free library of philadelphia card for $35/year
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: would probably be harder to find US places that accept euro applications...could try UK libraries though
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, that's what I'd expect.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Anyone happen to know if I can view created alias' or the such made in zmud without opening zmud if I didn't save them to a text beforehand?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: If I were to reinstall zmud, to keep all my aard alias and settings, I just need to copy the Aardwolf folder over after reinstallation, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any suggestions on good audio software mainly to manage podcasts? I prefer to avoid iTunes bloatware ...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for iOS, I presume... I use downcast.  works very well, and is kept updated.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: For XP ... or will I have to end up using iTunes after all to sync with iPod?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: Winamp.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wut, no VLC?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Was my next thought...imagine it's come a long way since 2000 :)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: VLC for podcasts? never tried it
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I use vlc for everything else, though :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I use Winamp for audio, though I was pretty stuck on MusicBee and MediaMonkey for a while.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Same, Cheezburger, that's why I thought it would be worth a try :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: VLC is good for video, and boot leg episodes of Game of thrones... but for podcasts, I'd go with winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I still use a cassette tape player, and keep a #2 pencil on hand for trouble
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Next, easy to use software for making website design mockups ... sadly lately I've just been sketching stuff on paper and scanning it for clients
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I presume you are using trying to get podcasts on a non-wifi apple device?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: since you are syncing with PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: he already said xp :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. .he said XP, bacause he need itunes to sync...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Yes and yes..4th G nano 
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I like 4th and 5th, dislike the newer ones.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, i didn't read very well :P Bad cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege sticks his tounge out at Cheezburger
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Ahh so Winamp won't sync with it...?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. .I think winamp is in the doghouse with apple... can't get licensed.  something about targeting itunes to rape your apple library and move it to android
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reading up on it... looks like winamp is only good for android users.  too bad they can't all get along, but business is business
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You mean apple's prorpietary BS is and always will be a nuisance? No way! :P
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yet and still... they are on top
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Hmmm I'd use my anroid phone but that requires extra skills in battery management:)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They're sinking fast
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they'll lose ground to the others at a steady pace, though, and once they are getting their heels nipped, they
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Only because people finally caught on that they're just being sold the same thing over and over again, and stopped shelling out for it
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you want to sync to apple devices, I /think/ MediaMonkey still does.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: they'll come around.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Speaking of the same thing over and over again, the iPhone 6 is coming out soon, and it's "thicker"
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I own a few apple devices, and I am happy with them... they work.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no 5s?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That'll probably come after 6, Dagnir.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I remain a non-mac user, though
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Trying MediaMonkey first...I have an XP box and the 1st gen mac mini, plus a gifted 4g Nano ... I understand the appeal of Apple products for some people, it "just works" if you're already in their ecosystem
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes.. they do all they can to keep you in the nest.  but again... good marketing is just good business
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: unlike sony who has never learned what it takes to maintain their own (proprietary) echo system... betamax, laser disc, etc...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the one thing that was amazing with laser disc was dragon's lair
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Blu-ray...oh wait! I say this as someone who was closely involved in the HD-DVD battle
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: sony was blue-ray, correct?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Dragon's Lair?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I like Laser Disc because it gave me my start with karaoke :D
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dragon's lair was the showcase of laser disc players, a video game
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wow, I never knew they wrote games for LD.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: alongside Space Ace.. which came after
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing could touch it for game graphics for like 10 years, looked like watching a normal cartoon, back when I was in grade school and everything was blocky
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Blu-ray was technology designed by Sony, HD-DVD was a format from Toshiba, which technically was better (from the studio production perspective, cost of production)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Heh, dragon's lair is on display at the smithsonian.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... blu-ray worked because Sony didn't stay in their vacuum.. unlike beta (which was superior to VHS) where they refused to license others to make the players, AND expected the movie industry to pay them royalities for any movies they sold/rented on beta.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well the studios pay royalties on the Blu-ray technology trust me, the issue chiefly went to marketing and install base (PS3 won the war)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Blue ray disc work in a normal player but not blueray quality?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no doink
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd be like sticking a DVD into a CD player
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: ahh ><. Gonna have to upgrade one of these days... blue rays are taking over the shelf space at Best Buy.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lots of bluerays that you buy will come with both a blueray and a DVD
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's a blue ray?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all of disney's do now, I believe
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those are the "blueray combo pack"
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just get you a PS3.  They're actually pretty durable and decent blu-ray players
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I stream my hd stuff :)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Might be a good idea... my pupn would go downhill with a PS3 in the house though.. lol.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei goes, "Heh."
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, and there's no "e" in the name for the HD things, but my fingers won't type it that way ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: BluRay, like that?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks your way then covers his mouth, trying to muffle his giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Blu-Ray, officially, I believe
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Well, Blu-ray
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Any suggestions on wire-framing software, anything for basic UX design / mockups ? As Ive said, at the moment I'm sketching stuff by hand and scanning/emailing to clients
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since you said it's for website stuff, I'd do it right in your website tools
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just greek the text or lorem ipsum
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: Well for this I'm trying to depict a TV screen concept for sports programming
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mushambo Tech: But see your point :) Guess I'll stick with it
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I have been playing Aardwolf on my handheld up till now. I just downloaded the mush client and am unsure how configure what I need... is there a help file for that?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Did you get the Aardwolf version, or just regular MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I downloaded it from aardwolf.org
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It should be pretty much pre-configured, then.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you download the aard mush from the aardwolf.com, there's no config necessary. it's perfectly click-and-go
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I guess what I wanted was to not see all the chat in my main window and just have it in the communication log
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: but if I turn it off then all chat dissappears
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: right-click in the chat window
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's an option for echoing channels in the main window
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: ok, and if I turn off the channel will it still show in my communication log?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: k, Ill play around with it and see, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: haha ok, so I just tried to setup a quick spellup command to my F1 key and both Windows and MUSH claim there is no help file to bring up... can I disable that, or should I avoid using my function keys? are there other keys that will bring up similar responses
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: can disable its a mush option somewhere...
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: File>Global Preferences/Gereral tab
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love those Gereral tabs.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: File->Global Preference, check "F1,F6 are macros"
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: a great place to learn tons about the aard mushclient package is its home page at http://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: click the "wiki" tab and look around there
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the "Client Guide/FAQs" part of the wiki, click Configuring FAQ, where one of the FAQ entries is How do I disable F1 as being the help macro?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: I think I will thanks! I just figured out the macro command thingy... this is way different than the commpressed
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: here is a AD question for yall. I have a single user on a single computer that cannot access network shares or exchange (both located on the same/only DC) this user can access everything when using any other computer in the domain. every other user on this computer can access everything (shares, exchange) i have deleted and rebuilt the profile for the user too and that didnt' help
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: tell them to not use that computer
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: remove the computer from the domain/delete its record etc?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i have removed and rejoined the computer from teh domain but didnt' delete its record
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i will try that thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ya deleting the computer record didn't help. i really am baffled by the fact it is only this one user
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: history
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: kill the user. No seriously, I am too.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: sorry  spell checker on phone got me... lol
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: disregard
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: lol i actually like this user though. they always blame themselves
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so they are at least right about something
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i would however like to kill the person who ran the IT of this company before me
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: so who's gonna make me a plugin that text's me when theres double?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Vorpes: You know that you enjoy a challenge.
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Turie Tech: Ask Cheezburger!
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dude please don't mention cheezburgers i am starving
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: they don't feed me down here. i am blocked in at the place i am at because someone is dying. geez the nerve of some people
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glako hop
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Glako hops around like a little kid. 
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: another awesome day of work down
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: trying to find cool apps for my tablet/phone anyone have any good recommendations?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: mostly interested in free ones, but if its something I can't live without, I'd pay for something lol
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: whatcha looking for? anything specific?
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: nothing specific lol, just have a smart phone and now a tablet and I don't use them even marginally what their capable of
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: Out of Milk is great on my phone
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Laughing Airmeith Tech: shopping/to do list
T3/r7/2013-04-04.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arystul Tech: I just use the lists it comes with :P
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone know of any software written to harness the power of a bunch of random mobile device screens into 1 larger screen?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: anyone mess around with bitcoin mining before?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Does Mush's Lua interface have an ability to search the buffer? I'm looking through the docs and can't seem to find one. Essentially I want to make a #grep function to list all occurances of whatever.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes I know that mush has a find ability, that's not what I want though. I want to re-print it out to the screen, not scroll up to the occurance.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what do you mean by buffer?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: scrollback history, it appears
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: the output?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: history
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: GetRecentLines()
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Only keeps 100, though
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: well, 100's better than 0, but I was hoping it could do the whole buffer.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: doesn't look like it.  it stores the total *number* of lines in the buffer, but only the last 100 actual lines, as far as I can tell
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: GetLinesInBufferCount() and GetLineInfo(), should get what you need.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Was just looking at that
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Thanks Dae
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Worse comes to worse, i'll just iterate over the count and get each line, parse it and spit it out for the user.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: That's what GetLineInfo() is gonna require, looking at it.  I'm not seeing a "GetRangeOfLines" type function.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, not too hard to build my own at least.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Maybe i'll submit it to Gammon and see if he'll include it in the build :P
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh btw, difference between GetRecentLines() and that is that recent lines only includes lines received from the mud
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: whereas the buffer includes commands, notes, etc.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Oh, GetLineInfo will do user echo's too?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nods, looks like it
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not sure if I like that, may have to find a way to distinguish
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the manpage for GetLineInfo shows examples of getting ranges, and even of putting them into a lua table so you can do whatever you want with them
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: you can distinguish
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: there's a boolean that tells whether it was a world.note, a different boolean if it was player input
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: *nods* Reading the man page now.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Thanks guys
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Menardi Tech: were can i find scripts for aardmush?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: All over the place. It helps to know what kind of script you're looking for, first.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: how do i fix an issue I am having where MUSh re-configured my flag toggles and no zmud shows me this {chan ch=clantalk}
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags channels off"
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or better, use a channel capture script which utilizes and hides those tags
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: your awesome Abe thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that releases the aard mushclient package has such a script on his site, btw
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that would be me
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You point at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there he is!
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: what is a channel capture script?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: hax
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you know how the channels were in MUSHclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like that, but for zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: honestly no, I tried downloading, thought it was overwhelming and went right back to zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: to many windows and options very alien to me lol
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: well, just look at the screenshot of MUSHclient on aard's site to get the idea...it puts channels into a separate window, so you can still read them through all the spam of fighting, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: ahhh yes ok, yeah I get that
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: does the same toggle thing work on coordinates showing?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, tags coords off...type just "tags" to see what all the tags options are
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you know that you don't have ANY scripts which may be using tags, you can type "tags off" to turn them all off at once
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: honestly, i've been mudding since 1995, and the aardwolf mushclient package rules.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but things like danj's spellup script does use tags
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ta'Veren Dranged Tech: just found the whole list thanks again Abe
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Ok, is anyone here up for a MUSH plugin question?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just ask
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Well, I've been using the scan_highlight plugin, but just a few days ago, it completely stopped working, and doesn't even show up in my list anymore. When I try to readd it, it says it isn't an XML file.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: I've even tried a freshly extracted copy in case mine got corrupted somehow.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mine screwed up to, i didn't really look into and said screw it
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it an xml file?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone use google's OAuth 2.0 before? I have a few questions about logging in if the account uses two-step verification
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Ok, so it isn't just me. I asked yesterday, and someone else said theirs was working fine.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yes, it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: are you sure?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: scan_highlight.xml is copypasta straight from explorer.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open it in a text editor to see what the contents look like
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ending in .xml doesn't make it an xml file
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Type is listed as an XML document, and I figured that since it had been working ok up until recently...wouldn't that make it pass the XML test by default?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not in my book
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: paste the contents of the file somewhere
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Where? I'm pretty sure you don't want it here.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pastebin
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The type goes by the extension. You can put docx as the extension, and it'd tell you it was a Microsoft Word document.
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: http://pastebin.com/
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: http://pastebin.com/dWAvwr1e
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you have it inside the bast folder?
T3/r7/2013-04-05.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yes, and I've also tried a copy extracted elsewhere.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bast's stuff won't work elsewhere
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yeah, it was something I did as troubleshooting...didn't solve the problem.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: loads fine for me
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: whatever you're doing is wrong or your computer is broken
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: pebkac
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Should I c/p the error text?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's no need. it loads fine. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Still not working for me. So, I guess it really must be pebcak.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, pastebin the error, it may give insight on why yours isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: http://pastebin.com/H3r9VXUD
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did you even read that error message?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahhhh
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's not saying the plugin is not an xml file
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's saying the STATE file isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: delete the state file that it references
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you obviously only pretended to read it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: my dad does that sometimes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: I read it...I just have no clue what a state file is.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I do that every time.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's the file that it says right there in the error message
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: like 95% of that message is it telling you what the file is
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That means he may have read 5%, then, right? That's not all bad.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only 95% bad
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I have low standards.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daain Tech: Ok, thanks for the help. That'll probably solve it. Won't bug you guys again.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm sorry, I'm missing some things. I'm only reading 95% of this conversation. Plus I'm only writing 95% of my sent
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not bugging if you try to decipher yourself first :P
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger points excitedly at Book of Etzli's crotch!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you mean it wouldn't have been bugging
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yeah, blane mr jack daniels
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can't try to decipher anything without reading it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: blame*
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I mean...you can TRY
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but the odds of success are vanishing
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Geez, even captchas are advertisements, nowadays
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: glad lasher never added captchas to aard
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anything the user looks at is advertising realestate
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: man i screwed that word up
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hah, I just tried to "*leinei", totally forgetting the "nod" bit...
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel comforts Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: and I click to in the text box to enter the captcha that has an advertisement in it, and a popup opens with yet another advertisement
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HappyDog Madcatz Tech: I'm also getting worse and worse at mutli-windowing
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Somewhere I lost my health bar miniwindow deal that comes with standard mush - any suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: It's installed, just not showing up
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "resetaard"
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Lets not and say we did. Any other suggestions?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You smirk.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: define lost
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: move other windows, make sure it's not just behind another
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: its not appearing. When I first downloaded and reinstalled, it appeared but after resizing and installing some plugins its gone
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I did
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: (and did again, just in case)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, never noticed the in case of emergency option
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have 2 options, delete the state file or type resetaard
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: close mushclient first before deleting the state file
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: take the blue pill!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: resetaard isn't destructive, it just puts the windows back into their stock locations
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and yeah, have MUSH closed when you delete the state file
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, it's destructive to your layout
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: but I use the default layout anyway
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I think I'll just live without the healthbars for now I guess. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: do you use the default...or does what you use become the default? ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This may be the best story I have read all hour! http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Windows-7-Upgrade.aspx
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nice one.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's what happens when IT policies are set by the IT department instead of the departments actually using the devices. 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Epic.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: reference 'search and destroy':  is there a way to configure it so that once you have "HTed" someting, it return 'mapper here xxx' instead of 'mapper find xxx'?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You can make it do whatever you want by editing the plugin. I can't help you any further than that though since I don't use Mush. There are guides to scripting in Mush on the internet if you google.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: is it easy to script in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yes... deeper than I wanted to get into it.  perhaps in another time, I might consider that.  for now, I just want to "dial a phone nuber", not "build a phone".
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "easy" is relative... if you have a basic programming foundation, then yes... if you can find the "j" key 3 outa 5 times, then no
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You wouldn't be building a phone, just changing a speed-dial button.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I suppose... it was a pretty weak analogy
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if I got sprintf('City: %30s',$city)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: is that lua?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: no it's php but
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ... errr
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I think I'm using the padding onthe wrong stuff :p
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: sprintf is one of those functions that should be AVOIDED LIKE THE PLAGUE.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Unless Lua prevents buffer overflows.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: what else should I use
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: String concat.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's php tho, not mud related
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Err, php.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: anyone know how to set the contents of a variable from a mushclient alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: how do you add dynamic padding with concat tho
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: also outlook might be displaying it crappy
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: rather than it being an issue with the print
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: hi help plz
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: You'll have to ask a question for that to be possible.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: help - i need somebody - help - really need somebody - help!!!!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: ask the google
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: how I do a simple alias on androids
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: help alias
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: works with any client
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I done alias but when I use work only first command
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: insert two ;
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I insert
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: soo
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: so will someone help
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what to you what alias
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: do*
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: hide&sneak but take only first command place
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok try alias hs hide;
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok try alias hs hide two 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: alias hs hide;;sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok try alias hs hide two ; sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I have done this already 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: grissom use ; first in the line before any other command and it shows rest normally
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i just did it and it worked fine 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: alias hs hide;;sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I do.alias hs sneak 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how you typed it exactly as i did
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: have*
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: yes no work 
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what does it give you when you try the way i typed it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: may I put not between hide and sneak semi colons but other symbol
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I think the prob is in semi colon
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: what to do pal?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: when I do this.it says to me now.hs is alias.to hide  but not to hide and to sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i looked on my phone the only i can get it work is to bring up the options menu then click on aliases and then type the aliases
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: option of the client where is there alias
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what phone are you using
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I find it but again only hide whow I right there correct
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok where it says replace word type hs where it says replace with this type hide;sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: again two semi colons between?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: waxaxaxaxa finally!!!!! ffs
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: Ty man Ty Ty ty
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no prob
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: I'm happy go duel
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: ok guys cu later have a nice day
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you too
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Berzebub Tech: if need something in really life just ask
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Why does GMCP 'stop' when walking into Gaardian?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well, it no longer updates gmcp.room.info correctly
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: It still shows me on 'North of the Grand Plaza' in aylor.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't replicate it, sorry.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: No kidding? From this room, gmcp.room.info shows you in the correct room?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daagar boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, works fine for me in Gaardian, too
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: have you tried to re-install the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I'm actually in mudlet. This is the first place I've seen where it doesn't update correctly - no issues with many other areas
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Even other clan areas?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Oh, let me try a different one
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Clan rooms look a little different than other rooms
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See the last part of "Aardwolf Room. modules" on this page: http://www.aardwolf.com/wiki/index.php/Clients/GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Least open halls were changed to mappable, that was pretty annoying before
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Sure enough, crusaders is not sending me an updated gmcp.room.info either
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you sure it's not sending it?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or just not in the "right" format?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or you're just not catching it?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Fairly sure, as I'm displaying exactly what mudlet is catching
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: exactly, what it's catching :P
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: in mudlet, this is via the "lua display(gmcp.room.info)" command
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: if the structure doesn't match, it can't catch it to show it to you
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Do you have a way to send gmcp commands?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I do
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: send "request room"
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: See if that gives you anything
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Hmm, no change. I wonder if mudlet itself is not catching things somehow. I'll work out how to turn gmcp debug mode on
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, see if you can turn on raw display. I'm fairly sure it's still sending it to you
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Try sending "debug on" ("debug off" to turn it back off).  That'll show you any errors you might be getting
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think...never actually used it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I didn't either, i just used client side debugs
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i thought it was gmcp debug 1to turn on debug
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: it is 'protocol gmcp debug' actually :)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: withought the space
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: either should work
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: yours is a mud command, though
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Yeah, appears there are multiple ways to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well, I'm stumped. :) I suspect aard is sending gmcp room info just slightly differently in clan areas, and mudlet doesn't catch it right. I might need to go to the test port and try. Thanks for the help guys.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: well naturally clan areas are nomap so...
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clans can choose whether or not you get any GMCP info per room
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: for most part
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: ur best bet is to make cexits to portions u use
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Yeah, but others confirmed that at least for gaardian, they gmcp info is there
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, the room where he noticed it in gaardian does send GMCP though
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, and I checked crusaders too.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: does mudlet automatically add new areas the first time you enter them, and are there any special characters in the rooms?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: So it's most likely a client issue.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just colors, Abe
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: true, have you tried other rooms which have colored names?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that could be the very issue
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I wonder if the mudlet interface isn't handling the meta colors correctly
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Ah... I need to find one
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: any suggestions of a room to try that isn't a clan area?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's one area full of them, just can't remember the name right now :P The one where you harmonize to get in
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: palace of song
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: that's it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: total brain fart :P
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah lol
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Laf, the trouble of being a total noob. That's a lvl 30 area. hehe
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}@GHelperful Cheezburger Tech@w: @cIf you want I'll go clear any aggros so you can test, give me until after 2x though@w
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's level locked, aggros aren't the issue
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: oh, right
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: daagar, try going to the room 2s of recall, I'll create a nexus for you to a room by my manor
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: now enter nexus
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: bingo sir. The first room worked fine, your room fails. It is something with the colors.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I'll run this past the mudlet devs. Thanks for the help!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Least now you know the root issue
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's a command to tell aard to send GMCP info using aard's @abc color codes rather than in ANSI codes, but that'd send everything that way
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it essentially makes GMCP stuff look like when you type "rawcolors"
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: If I did it right, I already tried toggling that option to no avail
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: 199 of them are Nutela-based
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, interesting...that SHOULD at least make them mappable, although the roomnames would be funky with the codes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: oh ho! I didn't do it right
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That fixed it. Huzzah
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: That was indeed it. Getting the bc style works fine. It is tripping over ANSI.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe leave that setting off except when you see that a room isn't getting mapped right,cuz you really don't want those codes as the normal part of the roomname
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: No worries, easy enough to strip them via code too
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, not sure your code comfort level ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Much thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in my client, I use /check_room_info $[decode_ansi(%-1)] to turn the ANSI codes into the client's display attributes
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because GMCP is control characters, it's not really meant [at the telnet core side] for special stuff like that
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: Well this is sad. I _already_ figured this out in years past. I have sendGMCP("rawcolor on") explicitly defined. It somehow stopped getting called. Argh.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr comforts Daagar.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daagar Tech: I must have been trying to call it before being fully connected to the mud, so it wasn't taking hold. Sigh.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: my question mark is doing this instead É anyone know how to fix it
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xaeris Tech: Change your keyboard language from Canadian French to US/English.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: hmm and how do i do that lol it wasnt like this before
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: is there any icon between where your programs show and the part where the clock is?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you right-click a blank part of that taskbar, go to toolbars, look for the language bar...you can use that to hide/show the language bar which gives you quick access to changing languages (I remove all but English to avoid accidents)
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: there's a keyboard shortcut too.  I think the default is alt+shift.  one might hit it by accident while trying a mush shortcut?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Would it be possible to connect to Aardwolf through a WebSocket?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Whenever I try to use the send() function, it gives me DOM Exception 11, on Chrome
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can only connect to aard through telnet
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Ah, some googles reveal that the MUD has to specifically support WebSocket connections. Wish I could write a client in pure HTML5/JavaScript :/
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: those already exist
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: What's it called? I've never seen one.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: one of the tools which Lasher has available to play Aard from the web right on Aard's site, the current version of it is an extensible client
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: All I see is fmud, java, and the telnet link
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh, thought you meant it was linked from the aardwolf website, never mind
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, and either fmud or jmud have that functionality
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: but they're not pure HTML5/JavaScript
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: someone started writing a pure html javascript client a while ago
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: javascript/non-java would be a horrible implementation IMO
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: why is that?
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, and it was fmud and not jta which has the client features...http://bc-dev.net/projects/fmud/
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is a hack javascript telnet library called jsTerm
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scurvy Tech: "hack javascript" is redundant
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: jsTerm gives me DOM Exception 11 when trying to connect to Aard
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there's also JavaSocketBridge, which is probably saner
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Oh, and it says that jsTerm connects to a node.js proxy, so it's not exactly what I was looking for
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: bob, try this for starters: http://decafmud.stendec.me/
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the guy that wrote that was messing around on Aard as Ronus
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: Cool!
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: btw, aard has a native (non-node.js proxied) websockets interface built into the MUD's code, but it's firewalled off as a WIP...we'll see if websockets ever gets the traction for it to matter enough to be opened...
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: I see great potential in web-based clients in the future
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: agreed
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't need websockets for web-based clients...they're not the same thing
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or even mobile based-web interfaces for new ground on mobile mud usage.
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: But it would be awesome to have a 100% clientside pure js client IMO
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BobTheGreat Tech: For aard, that is
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: With HTML rendering like MXP
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not worth the bother IMO
T3/r7/2013-04-06.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're either bloating up a browser or you don't have persistance
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: Ok, so I closed my EQ window from the bast plugins on Mush, and mneq eq front, mneq eq show, and mneq eq reset isn't bringing it back, anyone able to help me fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you tried to reload eqwin plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: .. not yet. :/
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Silent Noro Tech: hah, yeah. I should think of these things before I go asking questions. Thanks, Nuanse. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Nuanse smiles happily.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, got to go work out why my friends' computer is misbehaving
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vista64 machine that suffers from terrible slowness, microsoft office programs misbehave, lockups, large volume of error logs being generated
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Virus evident?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: He just said there was, vista64
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you finally decided to upgrade your machine, you made the wrong choice
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not mine
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: mine works because it's not new :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: get him a w7 upgrade. that's all there is to it
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: her
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: been thinking that, as it goes
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: how do insert a variable name into a trigger like door is closed but the door part is not set so that the trigger only checks for the is closed part
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: if that makes sense in mush
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: i have an alias called "oa" which opens every door in all 6 directions
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: me too but i want a trigger to open the doors if i encounter one 
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elkore Tech: im not sure what the problem is .. you want to trigger off a message like "Magical wards around the metal door bounce you back."?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So I've been ignoring windows 8 since I tried out the initial dev release and threw up in my mouth... but I just learned Server 2012 got Metro... wtf is Microsoft thinking?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: they want everyone worldwide to be gay
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: how quickly can we put ourselves out of business so we can be bought by someone else
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And now I hear Windows Blue isn't going to be the new 7 :-(
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: don't forget Microsoft have been rolling out their "use windows update to screw up older versions of windows to force people to upgrade" program
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: citation needed?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Where can I find that information?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Considering that would be illegal, and there are hordes of Mac and *nix fanbois just waiting for an excuse to stick it to M$, that is unlikely to the point of 'haha tiggr talking bs again'
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not deliberate, it's carelessness
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the constant-update model lends itself to instability
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which, if you have ever been reliant on a commercial product in business, you will know to be true
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Still, differences in version need not be that dramatic.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The constant update model wut? The anything-not-constant-update model leads to exploits running amok.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: thats why the first thing you should do if you need your apps to work properly is turn off the automatic updates
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: office 2007 is particularly bad, many oracle products have equally flawed update models
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Tiggr, I hope if I ever find myself in the black hat industry I am up against you :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: You can choose to update or not. The "not" option is far worse, IMO.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: only worse if yo conceed that the original product was flawed, and that it shipped pre-complete
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not true, you turn off AUTOMATIC updates and you install them at a time of your choosing where you can appraise the update and roll back if needed
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: releases are inevitably flawed. constant update models mean it's almost certain to be flawed as they release frequently safe in the knowledge they can patch it mid-cycle
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The 'automatic' updates run to a quite specific schedule, bar emergency patches
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And anyone who reads 'stable release' and expects no bugs is delusional
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: given the modern software roll-out model, companies HAVE to get their product out the door wether it's ready or not... so they patch it on the fly.  Sort of like how your mom used to tease out her hair on the way to church.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is a war of probabilities - the probability of an exploit is higher than the probability of a bug, factoring in damage estimates
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's situation-contigent and is more often not true that true
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: than
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It has nothing to do with rushed software fundamentally, though that is itself an issue - it has more to do with software not existing in a vacuum
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: You're assuming my mom actually went out to church..
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: statistically (FOX news), 90% of you went to church (in the US) as children... wether you admit it or not
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And I can tell you straight up so long as you have regular backups, there is simply no contest between bug and exploit.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I digress... that's an issue for the debate channel... sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: not true, vakieh
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: ...I'm not from the US.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Vonliege, Fox news didn't interview the most of the people who aren't in the US
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Totally true
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's not
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What can a bug do that an application rollback or a backup restore cannot fix? Conversely, what can an exploit do?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: There is simply no contest for personal OR business use
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: take an example, you want your webserver to have all the latests exploit fixes upto date as security is a priority over bugs. Take a counterexample of a works desktop, having hours of work time screwed up because the latest pushed update messes everything up is not helpful, i don't care about exploits as there is nothing sensitive to be stolen
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: it's context-dependant
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Any sane person will take the possibility of a ctd or corrupted data (which is backed up) over the possibility of Mr Ukraine getting their bank details, or competitor xyz getting into a private intranet
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: why is your personal bank details on your work desktop?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A works desktop means what? A workstation? A desktop running Microsoft Works? Loss of productivity is minimal so long as you are following good backup and maintenance practices.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or do you mean work's?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: There was no 's'...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the equivalent is preferring a car with great security over one that actually runs without breaking down every 5 minutes
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: >>ake a counterexample of a works desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If an update crashes every 5 minutes, you rollback the update... not rocket surgery
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which update is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: do you have priveledges to roll it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: has it already migrated your projects to the latest version, can that be reversed?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: the equivalent is preferring a car with door locks that could possibly jam close and prevent you from using it over one that has no locks at all to jam
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If you don't have privileges to roll it back, you aren't qualified to comment, as your work is telling you how it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Take it up with your IT department
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They clearly know better than you what the correct course of action is
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: my IT department already conforms to these sensible ideas
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: except for one dick who installs every update that comes along and screws everyone else up as a result
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: We're sorry that the malware on your computer wasn't compatible with the latest Windows updates. The rest of us didn't have any issues with the updates.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if your sysadmin sets the update policy for the department's pc's to "auto", then you probably should consider firing them
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm guessing your two comp sci majors were from the open university, or bought over the internet
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That wasn't very necessary, Tigernuts.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: stop defending the indefencible, trurien ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm not defending you...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mc Cruentis Tech: -10
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Two? Only did the one... correspondence to the uni I moved to for my Masters :-P Care to play again?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: that's kinda my point
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: then how do you patch the gap between what you've been saying at the completely different approach taught in academia and used throughout industry?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: what's good enough for joe bloggs watching porn and reading facebook is good enough for everyone, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So you are saying academia and history says you should not leave updates to auto... meanwhile, your local IT guy has set the machine you have no admin rights to on auto, and the companies producing the software also promote the auto option...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Because they have their own interests to promote, too :P
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I mean, auto is nice and easy for the consumer to remember.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: What's the scenario? sysadmin borks every computer with automatic updates or he borks a smaller percentage?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But if you know what you are doing as an IT department, you should be in control of the systems ... you are in control of.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sysadmin should be vetting updates and releasing them via the update server, no?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: since they have a set suite of applications they are responsible for maintaining the working of
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: so in summary, microsoft is non-deliberately, carelessly forcing people to upgrade with screwy updates, and people should never do anything sensitive on their work computers, so that you don't need to worry about exploits. Did I miss anything?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: As long as it's done with enough efficiency, yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: being a sysadmin and all, being their job
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Sonshi: heh.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Do small companies keep their own update server, really?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Got the budget for it? If so, great. If not, the lesser evil is unfiltered updates.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Small companies probably don't have a sysadmin team.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Sure they do.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: well fine, but don't be surprised if something stops running at some point as a result, which it regularly does, which is then passed off by people like you as collateral damage
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Maybe just one. Two at the most.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That's still a team.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Ranrr: two, yes. I wouldn't consider one to be a 'team'.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because it IS collateral damage... and a lesser damage than you would find from an exploit getting onto networks or whatever else the update was supposed to fix
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'd venture a guess that a majority of companies have updates (for window) set to auto, and it works fine.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: if you have networks for which exploitation was an issue, you'd also have sysadmins doing their job
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: As fine as windows can be.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I personally just leave my work laptop to update itself automatically... but that's because I haven't been bothered to use it too much.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: And that it is Windows, yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But even then, I don't take the time to read through package compatibility issues on my own laptop either when I update.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: This seems less about you making an issue about update practices, and more about you whining about where you think the efforts of your company's sysadmins are best spent
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Vakieh: that might be it :)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: sysadmins at work are great
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}WarPigs Tech: Something stops running? How could that have been avoided by anything but luck? If the update was tested and it didn't affect the test computer then you deploy it. How would test that it won't affect anything at all?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Except for that one dick, you said? Who ruined everything?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: he's not a sysadmin, he's a programmer
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If he has admin rights, he is a sysadmin...
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: personally i'd have castrated his rights, but that's for another time
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Exactly, Ranrr - simple economical decision to look at $ spent on update vetting vs $ lost on productivity. In any case I can think of that doesn't involve a critical service (where 'rollback or load a backup' doesn't cut it) the balance is 'set it to auto and have recovery procedures set and followed'
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: More people generally have admin rights than are actually admins... at least in every company I've worked in.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the updates breaking things issue was particularly bad for the MS Office 2007 suite (probably the same for their later offerings)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Of course, I would rather blow my head off with a rusty shotgun than be a windows admin (again), but that's just me.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Being a *nix admin is fine, though. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Hmmm, for some reason my Mapper DB doesn't seem to work anymore, anyone have any indication of what could have gone wrong? Its almost as if I haven't done any exploring at all. The db file is still in the folder though.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: (for Mushclient)
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you changed the name of your world file
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper db is bound to world file name
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Aardwolf.mcl -> Aardwolf.db and so on
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Ah, so how do I change it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how did you change it in the first place?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rename one or the other
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I don't honestly remember.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I dont remember changing it to be honest.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: try pressin Alt+Enter and see what is in the box at the top
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: might need to be Alt+1
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it should be "Aardwolf"
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Ah hah, you're a genius fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: I vaguely remember mashing some buttons by accident while typing, and it brought up the screen: I must not have noticed that I changed any fields.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Thank alot, will restart client
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: save first
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Brilliant, it works now.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make sure the change applies
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: k cool
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Buried Dreadlocker Tech: Thanks mate.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: any time
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: does the mapper automatically back up when you close MUSHClient?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: think it asks to save if it hasnt saved new stuff... I dont know for sure though.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: just curious... I'll just cut the chase and type mapper backup after exploring whole areas =P
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the mapper file is backed up at MUSHclient launch, and every 24 hours if MUSH is left open
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Bast mini window command to "save current state", please?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pleiades Tech: has anyone used mush on Windows 8?
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't see why there would be any issues with it not working.
T3/r7/2013-04-07.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: all you have to worry about is where to install it.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Is there a way to #define an #include separately for g++ and MSVC++?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I'm thinking about #ifdef WIN32, but I'm not sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Seems to be OK, gonna have to test on next reboot...
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: anyone seen the EVGA GTX TITAN
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: graphics card?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes fastest GPU on the world 6GB VRAM
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: no, I haven't seen it
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Probably a hefty price tag with it to :P
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: CrossfireX?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: costs 2k dollars
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: 3DMARK-Fire-strike score = 9,116
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Remember kids - by the time a game can do squat with a Titan, you could buy one for $900 or so
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: kinda overkill for mushclient??
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: hitman absolution DX11 ultra detail 4xAA = 68,97 fps 
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Of course, if you're into weather simulation go grab a handful of them
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: power load 285 watts
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: 288GB/s bandwidth
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what is the name of the new bridge intel is going to put on their new gen processers?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ivy?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: no that is the old one
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is clearly shown on their wikipedia page: Haswell, a tock iteration
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then Broadwell, then Skylake
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then Skymont
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: cant wait to see what insane speeds that will reach
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Predicted 5nm in 2019... ridiculous combo of Hz * IPC
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Probably moving more into parallel at that point also - can you imagine one of these running at 16+ cores?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Bot so hard
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: is possible to connect 2 screens to laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Depends on your laptop.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Does your laptop have two video ports?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Because all laptops aren't the same?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at RightOn Rithlin.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's connected to one monitor atm
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: the port that cable is in, there is only one of those
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then I'd wager a guess and say "no" unless you have other video ports (hdmi, for example)
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no such thing as an adaptor to split into two ports?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Is that monitor a vga port or hdmi?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: not sure, might it be both?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it's one of those blue ones with the two screws
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: HDMI looks like a USB port only smaller and longer
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Then its vga
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: so potentially I could connect one hdmi monitor and one vga to my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RightOn Rithlin Tech: Technically yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: it's up to the capabilities of the card whether both can be operational simultaneously, but in most cases, yes
T3/r7/2013-04-08.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: Ok, thanks for the info!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So... who's looking forward to the new Xbox?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Because two sources have confirmed that Microsoft designed it to require an internet connection to launch games. It would tolerate drops up to three minutes, but after that, it would open the network troubleshooter.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: That sounds like a bad design decision... but I suppose it could be true.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wouldn't surprise me.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But definitely a bad design decision, considering it'll alienate everyone without an internet connection.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: that sucks, looks like i wont be bothering to get 1
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: These companies that are requiring internet connections to play their games are out of their minds.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Will probably push a lot of people to the PS4.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well i got internet but its so slow steam barly recognises it as internet
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Adam Orth, a creative director at Microsoft, even went so far as to defend an "always-on console" on Twitter, and when someone brought up living in the boondocks and not having a stable internet connection, Orth's response was, "Why would I want to live there?"
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: W00T! My uni just sprang for full Dreamspark Premium :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's Dreamspark?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what's a uni?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I can guess university
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Microsoft student repo
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: dreamspark sounds vague
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Microsoft's repo'ing students?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya.. once they buy an office product with the student discount... Microsoft OWNS them
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: thought I read that in the ToS :D
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: What do you mean discount? Dreamspark is free... as in $0
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Premium means I have access to more software now :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: we're having a hard time getting excited for you because we still don't know what it is
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: None of you know what Dreamspark is? Seriously?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but what the heck.. .here goes anyway... WHOOOOP! for Vakeih!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite falls to the ground and rolls around, laughing hysterically.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I guess I could google it... but why?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's enough for me that YOU'RE happy.. so... GRATZ!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I don't know what it is... am I in the minority?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: this IS the tech channel.. so I would guess some of the others know
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I can basically now get any MS OS, Office suite, Server tools, IDE, XBox dev tools, accounting software, etc - free
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I only keep this channel open for the micro-bot debates
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite goes ooOOooOOoo at Captain HR Vakieh.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: dreamspark is a new term for something microsoft used to call something else.  where they give away free software to college/uni stem studetns.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Now I can be happy for you!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite tosses Captain HR Vakieh up in the air, he loves it!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's been called Dreamspark for at least 3 years :-P Before then it was called ItsNotCheating.com
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: WOOOHOO! for Vakeih!  we're REALLY happy for you, man!
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Best thing I've found so far is OneNote - was disappointed it isn't in MS Office Student
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: That's geared towards tablets right?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: it's not in ms office at all, Vak, iirc.  It is my favorite ms product :)
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: it's part of MSOffice if you don't buy the cheapskate versoin
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gnarcyon Tech: version*
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Atlanta, it exists in the business/ultimate editions someplace
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: I was an ms rep on campus, had the ultimate ms office...one note was on a separate disk with a separate key.  Guess it changed since I graduated.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It's been a Office component since it was originally made in 03...
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gwa'ra'ri Atlanta Tech: silly.  who needs oneNote more than a student. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So continued thoughts on the new Xbox requiring an internet connection to launch games, and if it drops for more than 3 minutes, it initiates a network troubleshooter?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I don't have an internet connection at my ps3 I hope they don't adopt that sort of thing.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: PS4 doesn't show any signs of being an "always-on" console.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: next gen consoles are going to suck in their own unique ways
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But a couple sources confirmed that the new Xbox will be, and Adam Orth (Microsoft employee, creative designer, I think) defended an "always-on" console, and stated, when told that people in the boonies lose internet, "Why would I want to live there?"
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the good news is that companies are starting to develop for pc and port to consoles
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: My brother and my parents still don't have any internet acces other than dial-up or satellite.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Leinei.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Orth also said people need to get with the times, everyone should have internet because it's "awesome".
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: although, they should be getting it for the first time within the next few weeks.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: They *couldn't* get it where they live
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: at my home all I have is dial-up. The cable co wanted $1600 USD to come up the driveway, i declined.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyone requiring "always-on" internet only hurt themselves. Look at EA's SimCity debacle, and Blizzard's Diablo III issues.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: diablo III doesn't require it, does it?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Oh, maybe it does
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Blizzard's servers crashed on launch day because it couldn't handle the influx.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So for the Xbox it is being viewed as a method to combat piracy?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: what is with the needing of internet connection when playing single player parts of these games jese
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think so.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: (only really been following the PS4)
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: anti-piracy 
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: The always connected thing has never been about multiplayer
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Jhav nods at Vost.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That's what the whole "always-on" internet has been about - a way to combat piracy.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: encourage piracy*
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Encourage me not to buy their games*
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Jhav.
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so essentially it was a dedicated VoIP line that was configured to limit VoIP to less bandwidth and never give it priority?
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-09.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: when my spellups go through, I get a wicked lag. is this a wwscript issue?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: If I reinstoll statmonitor, will the data so far be cleared?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: eh, reinstall, too
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I instaled windows 7 and it does not want to run mush..any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: dont put mush in program files* put it in user folder or something like that (i think i keep mine on the desktop)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: mine is on my desctop..
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah that :P
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Saying that "it does not want to run mush" isn't very helpful.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no clue, my main client is cmud
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: when I clisck it it brings up a error this is not a database file or somthing like that
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Are you clicking the .exe file?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The one that says "MUSHclient.exe"?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I am
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Is this a fresh download of MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its the newest version I saved it from xp before I put on win 7
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So it's not a fresh install, it's a copied install.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: correct
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Try doing a fresh install.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Took me a while getting the bugs out of my copied install for my alt.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: mostly was from Basts spellup script though.. iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: this is the error I get
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: SQK error on statment: drop table I'd exits control;create table control (name varchr(10)not null primary key, calue int not null );" file is encrypted or is not a database 
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: Ni Hao!
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: paying for some help with windows 7 pst
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: will pay well
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: ...just ask the q, nobody is going to offer up time blind
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its more than 1 probe and 2 don't aply to aard :)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So? Tech channel is general tech help, it need not be mud related
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o cool thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I instaled win 7 bottom right the speaker icon has a x on it and it is not picking up my speakers
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You using a sound card, or onboard audio?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Probably sound driver issue.  Did you install those yet?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I don't have a driver cd
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Should be able to find the drivers online if you know where your sound is coming from.  If it's from the mobo, get the drivers for that.  If it's a PCI card, just google the card.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: when you say the speaker icon on the taskbar has an x on it
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ...I'm not that good with pc's...it pluged into the motherboard
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: you don't mean it's muted right
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: If you know the model of your computer, you should be able to go to the vendor site online and find the support page for your model.  Drivers will be there.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: no it has no audio devices
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I have no idea the make of my pc lol its also not picking up my grafix card
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Hahaha... so not only is the new Xbox going to supposedly be an "always-on" console requiring internet connection, but it will not play Xbox 360 discs at all. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Graphix card will also need drivers if you haven't installed them.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: graphics drivers are easier to find online because there's really only two companies who make consumer cards, and they have auto-detect driver packages.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok...so ill see if I can get the grafix drivers but I have no idea what pc I got
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: where did you buy the PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its a hand me down lol :P...grafix card is a nvidia is all I know lol
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Nvidias are super easy.  Just go to nvidia.com and find the driver download.  The drivers will pretty much do the rest.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok let me start there brb
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Who handed it down?  They might have more information on it if they built it.  You'll need the mother-board model.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: did whoever handed it down cannibalize all the cards? :p
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: If they didn't build it, then the vendor is likely somewhere on the box (Dell, emachine, HP, etc)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: can't I just look somewhere on the MB?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Maybe, but it's unlikely.  Those things aren't usually well labled.  You can find it in bios sometimes, but that can be a tad tricky.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok let's do the grafix card first then the sound
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: You can download CPUZ (google it), it /might/ be able to tell you your motherboard.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: there is a serail number on my motherboard will that help?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: my pc is having a porblem with the gmcp mapper plugin keep getting a runtime error
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, the good old "error"
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yah i have no idea how to fix it
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and neither does anyone else unless you tell what the error was
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: reading them does help
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Run-time error
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Plugin: Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper (called from world: Aardwolf)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Function/Sub: OnPluginInstall called by Plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_GMCP_Mapper sub OnPluginInstall
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: [string "Plugin"]:1802: file is encrypted or is not a database
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: CODE: 26
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: QUERY: PRAGMA wal_checkpoint(FULL)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the times when people wrote their own bots :(
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i don't know anything about mush, but maybe reinstall the plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seems to be a common answer here
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: did that stil othing
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nothing*
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: or restart mush
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: did that too stil nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: then maybe contact Fiendish about it
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its all since i got win 7
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: oh, there it is
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: don't install mush in program files
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what folder did you install mush? Don't install in program files folders
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it is on my desctop
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ah, and it was on the desktop of your old windows install?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's environment variables then
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you need to /really/ uninstall the plugins/settings then
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: seems like the plugin was using full path instead of %APPDATA%
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: and this is a fresh client my old client doesent even open gives a error right off the bat
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it's trying to use c:\documents and settings\you\desktop instead of c:\users\you\desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but i don't know why vanilla install wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: bottom line windows 7 sucks ass
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: What's wrong with windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: windows
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Alzar Tech: Lol. I mean, love it or hate it windows definately has its uses.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rusk Tech: its windows?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: how do i execute an alias inside a trigger ?stand
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: look for the send to dropdown box
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: change the "send to" drop-down menu to "execute"
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i know that much but im doing this inside a plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then set "send_to" to whatever number execute is
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Or better yet
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Just do Execute("foo")
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: tried changing  ths sendto to 10 and that didnt work either
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Instead of Send()
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: oh will try that
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}BlueBeetle Tech: i take it the alias  will need to be defined in same plugin then ?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: think so yes
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It checks in-plugin aliases first, but if there's not one, it should match global aliases
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but not an alias defined in another plugin, I don't think
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: oh yes it will
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I'm in my device maniger on win 7...multimedia sudio controller doesent have drivers..any idea where I can get some?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: have you tried a Google search?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: google would be a good first start
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so I whas googeling multimedia audio controller driver free downolad win 7...and I just get a lead of crap
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: bad idea to copy all the drivers from xp to win 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok a less dumb question can a external HD be your main?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so if I have no internal and I plug in a external wil it then boot windows from cd?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: change the boot order in your bios
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well thanks let's hope that wil help lol...still need drivers thoug..how can win 7 not have the driviers.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Mokg Tech: it should
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its not picking up my sound or my gravix card
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Leonassan Tech: Is it a creative labs card?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: gravix or gravis
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its a nvidia card
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: if I could just get the sound to work
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so my gmcp mapper isent working at all
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: on startup i get a error
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Copy all output to pastebin, and put up a link - the answer is probably in the error somewhere
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o...k this might take a while :P
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Should just be drag output, ctrl c, open browser, type pastebin.com, ctrl v, submit, say link
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: .....UGH!
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: no submit buton
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: to set up my key pad...ak is to kill the mob go is to go to the room what is the other one to go to the next room?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: ehm what?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Sounds like SnD?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok before my problem i had my keypad set up...if i push 9 witch is go it will rt the mob of my cp and if i press 3 witch is ak it kills my mob there is another one that go's to the next room if there is more than 1 of the same name
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Those are not normal mud things, those are very sophisticated scripts, and the only public one of those I know of is SnD
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it is part of ther s&d....
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i just cant remember the last one
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so i have all my trigers and stuf on my old aard but it cant open is there another way to get them?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: move them to your new aard
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how...
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: on the aardwolf site is a section about installing a new version and moving all triggers and such over to the new one
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ayasinda, that requires opening the old one
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You could copy across the mcl file, but you are inviting bugs doing so
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: exactly give that man a cat
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Hey the guys just asked how to move his triggers. 
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i did say it cant open
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and said he ouldnt open his old aard
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: No. But I don't care. Don't want to argue. Too tired
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so any ideas or ideas on how to get my old one openr?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: open*
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i could give you the error sec
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: shit now i cant see my input window i pull it up but when i type it disapears
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: any ideas on how to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a galaxy tab 2 that has been rooted?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i keep getting error connection like connection time out, is anything wierd happening?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: some router borkage in new york
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: MUB crashed
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: MUD crashed
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: didn't
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Oladon Tech: The MUD didn't crash.
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: oh?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Brujah Tech: it didn't?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: type realtime
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so i am not the only one, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: that explains the lack of qreset period
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: anyone have a galaxy tab 2 that has been rooted?
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: i normally use 2 monitors i jsut opened a program that would usually be on my second monitor but i'm travelling and don't have it and can't see the window and can't figure out how to get it on my main screen (windows 7)
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if it's the same as prior versions, while window has focus do this: <alt>+Space, M, <ctrl>+<left arrow>, move your mouse
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vale Tech: that got it thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Not really
T3/r7/2013-04-10.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i need some help with the s&d i forgot some commands that were set up on my keypad
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: anybody?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: well, you better remember them
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i cant lol :P thats why im asking i can only remember 2
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i miss the times where people wrote their own bots
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so you want us to remember the commands you yourself set up?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ww help maby
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Seltsimees Dagnir, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: that takes jedi mind skills, not tech skills
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its normal mapper commands like ak and go there are 2 others i cant remember
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Is there a way to reset what commands the keys on the keypad represents in cmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: ok, i'll try to remember them if tell me where i left my keys
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i'd try using them
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I did.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks for all the help :) got it
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: after installing plugins from the package library in cmud, how does one actually get them installed or working? I tried a map window and restarted the client but it isn't showing up.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: For the Mush Mapper, when it uses a portal, isn't it supposed to run you to the room you set as its first room in the area?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: nope. It lands you at the portal deestination
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Huh, okie
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Hmmm, well when I made the portal to land of legend, all speedwalks that lead out of the area using it as a shortcut become messed up. It lands 1 north of the area entrance and all the speedwalks that are using this start at the entrance.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Anyone know a fix?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: Guess I should point out that this is for Mush Mapper, and I have tried changing the first room for the area :D
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dantin Tech: If anyone was curious, the answer to my problem was me being in the wrong room when I made the mapper portal exit
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to have statmon on but not see it?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hidden behind another window?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: a plugin i have needs statmon but i hate seeing it all the time after a command so i want to not se it but still have it be there lol
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Have you tried electrical tape on your monitor?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Sabertooth buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: you guys are no help at all
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Atoam beams with pride.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: be sure to use the vinyl stuff... the cloth will leave gummy residue
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Myopic Tech: can you set the statmon window to be behind the main window?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I actually liked Ayasinda's solution... hid it behind anoter window.. but for the more elegant solution, go to Fiendishe's google site and look for teh commands to hide/show windows
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: a 'hidden' window is still active, just not seen
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it is not in its own window...it apears in the mail window
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh... that's different from what I have... sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Is it the Aardwolf_statmon plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: Alt-F4 makes everything disappear btw
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: dont let them trick you
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: but it solves all your problems
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: ^^
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you mean 'alt-F4' won't make justin beiber appear on my couch?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: if Justin beiber appears on your couch kill him and burn your couch
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: and your house
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: problem solved
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: why else would I want to summon justin beiber?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: I dono 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: weirdo
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: me or justin beiber?  or both?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Taste The Alestorm Tech: the guy that would want to summon justin
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... that is pretty wierd.. let's go with the olsen twins
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Taste The Alestorm throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: got synergy going, don't need to keep switching between keyboards 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: okay i have a simple trigger triggering on ^\(Friend\)\: (.*?) has entered Aardwolf\.$, send box print (%0) sento script, i keep getting the error [string "Trigger: "]:1: function arguments expected near 'has' any reason for this?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Needs quotes around %0, and %0 should be %1 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: im trying to get the whole thing to send to begin with :P, so %0 is right
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: aka send the trigger line
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Oh, you really do want the whole line?  Kay.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Put quotes around the %0 then.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: So print("%0")
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm never needed to before but okay
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: o well seems to have worked, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i am trying to make a trigger in mush to requip if i am disarmed i am using ^\^\(\.(.*?)\?\) DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon\$\\$ as the trigger on section wont work any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Why are you using double anchors?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: so ^\(\.(.*?)\?\) DISARMS you and you struggle not to drop your weapon\$ is this better?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: what would you think about having live gamestats&ranks at aarwolf's homepage? too useless to even start pondering?:)
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can get the ranks by using the web interface on the www already, not sure value is there to be added
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Grissom, it looks like you wrote your regex, then hit the regex button - everything is escaped and doubled up
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: players online would look cool if it refreshes itself whenever the list changes..
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ^\(\.(.*?)\?\) DISARMS you and sends your \(\.(.*?)\?\) flying\.\$ ok what must i add or remove to fix this
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: hey is somone here that can help me make some triggers..well a trigger the rest will follow pretty easy 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: its probly really simple im sure everyone has this trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: what do you need help with, i'll help if i can?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if it was that simple you wouldn't have needed any help, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: no im kinda dumb somtimes
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: anyhow you know you loose concentration on spells well im trying to make a recast trigger any ideas what im doin wrong
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ohh im running mush btw
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: using mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: you just answered. sorry. that trigger is a bad idea... but i have one i don't  use. one sec
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: in the trigger field  put: You lost your concentration while trying to cast *.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: in the send field write: cast '%1'
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: do i need the ' ' in there to ?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: or jsut the %!
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: yes because the spell names are multi-word.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: k ill test this out thanks a bunch 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: would be ok to copy past your text right...
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: er paste
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lorwrath, use a pre-built spellup script, it uses smarter stuff than that trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: it can really screw you over if you get caught in a loop, be forewarned.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: both bast and winklewinkle have spellup scripts that will keep you spelled up
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: abelinc is right.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't want that trigger, because it will also fire on non-spellups, attack spells, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are "spelltags" which give the failure reason code and the spellnumber, which avoids any multi-word issues, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: yeah that does sound bad but i was just goin to do every individual spell up i have as trigger not a all around trigger 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if you wanted to do that, then use a single trigger with a list check in the action part, rather than dozens of triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ok so what i did is when the mud told me " You lost your concentration while trying to cast know alignment. " i pasted that in the trigger area and in the sent i put ca 59 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: while you're a single-class it seems manageable...when I type aff, I get You are affected by 1 skill and 62 spells.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: omg 
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: turn on spelltags...it'll greatly simplify everything...tags exist specifically to make scripting easier
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: The best simple fix I found is just to alias 'spellup learned' to some easy to reach key - I use =
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even with a spellup plugin I still use that = key from time to time to be sure my spells are up
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: My spellup script uses the spellup command... so it's only like 2 lines of code
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so thanks everyone for helping me with the buff trigger thing i went and got winklewinkle and im goin to try to learn how to script with mush again thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I'm getting a strange prefix with all channel lines. It says '{chan ch=<channelname>}'
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "tags channels off", or start using a channel capture script which uses and hides those
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Odd... After doing what you suggested, I stopped seeing the yellow square brackets around the channel name.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yellow square brackets?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Odd... After doing what you suggested, I stopped seeing the yellow square brackets around the channel name.tech Yes, I used to see the entries like:  [Channel]
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what client are you using? If you normally see square brackets around all channel names, then you've got some sort of channel script running
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: All of my plugins started failing, so i freaked out and reinstalled mush...but now my mapper is just...........gone
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: anyone have any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: its just completely wiped
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: copy the database over
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I've been using tintin++ (with absolutely no scripts), but I decided to try AardMUSH, unsatisfactorily, and when I switched back to tintin++ I noticed the changed format.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: did you rename your world file?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you weren't using it with absolutely no scripts
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: check your world folder and make sure the aardwolf.db file is still there.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: No, nothing changed...i was idle, went for a quest, and everything started wigging out
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: alright i will
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: tintin++ has no scripts by default, And I didn't add any.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: there is a file there but im not sure if its the one i just made while using mush this session or what
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you simply wouldn't have had [channel]
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: this is crazy. all of my portals and everything...ugh
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: start mush again, look for error messages on load
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are multiple backups of the database file in the backups folder
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Filippa Tech: This is Dhanneii, on a different character. On this one, I can see the yellow brackets and no {channel ...} tags
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}A bowl of Granola Tech: alright its still cleared. so how do i copy a backup over then?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a file...close mush, copy file, name it, start mush
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: The only difference when I play as Dhanneii or as Filippa is the credentials I use to access the MUD. Everything is the same client-side, but the output is altered for Dhanneii. This is most likely something that AardMUSH did to this character's settings, since I didn't log on as Filippa from AardMUSH.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the {chan ch=foo} was something that aardmush did, yes...the [channel] is not
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dhanneii: are you sure you're not just looking at the newbie channel for the [channel]? that's how that channel always looks, like this one is Playername Tech: message
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Have you tried to connect to the MUD with a plain, no-scripts, no add-ons client? I can assure you the [channel] is there.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: as abe said i think you are seeing [Newbie] tags?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I see the brackets on all channels but Tech, I never said it was this channel that had them.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Recommend to me a windows-based IRC client. Preferably one that can tile windows.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: newbie is the only channel that uses [] that you would have access to, unless you have scripts
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the MUD doesn't send [channel] for general channels...but various channels have different ways to show the channel's name
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wolfe: have you tried mirandaIM?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: actually, no. I shall have a look at that.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: OH, wait.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Part of the IM client?
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: I use it for AIM.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, it does IRC as well
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: That's what I was leaning towards, to be honest. My copy of Pirch is acting up, my trial of mIRC expired in like 2001, and I don't really like xchat
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: I decided to try AardMUSH because I assumed it would work well with AarWolf. However, not only did it turn out to be insufficient for normal play --it failed to show basic stuff like the mobs in the room I'm in--, but it messed up my character's settings.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: I'm not sure what it's doing to do that, Dhanneii, it worked out of the box here on several PCs.
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, aardmush works extremely well with aardwolf, and never fails to show the mobs in the room you're in
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and aardmush did nothing about [channel]
T3/r7/2013-04-11.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dhanneii Tech: Fair enough. Have a nice day.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: Hey, i've asked this before and gotten the answer, my affoff tags are visible and I fixed this by changing my prompts only i can't remember what i need to do, i've tried googling it...
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: does this make sense With a 112.5% quest completion percentage.'
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and it started doing that after i failed one quest
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luckyj Tech: I was trying to adjust the wordwrap on my output scrn (mushclient) and all window went into a small box, it wont let me drag the box back larger?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: try 'resetaard'
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luckyj Tech: i now see all previous window, but they squeezed into a small overall window, I get drag arrows to resize it, but it does not work
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no 'max window' button top right?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Luckyj Tech: got it, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}DeezyKitty Diza Tech: Why might a cell phone user get "too much traffic" as an error when trying to connect to aard?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: how strange
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: suddenly lost internet connectivity and found that for some reason windows had set the dns server ip to be my gateway
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: despite everything being set to auto
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: does not compute
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: set it manually, and it's all working fine
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: check your hosts file and run a malware scan just to be safe
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: meh, means installing one
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: still not go full access, things are a bit funky
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: pretty sure it's ISP
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: seems to be resolving now
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: Does anyone know of a reliable method to be able to download Adobe Captivate videos to your local hard drive for later viewing?  I've done google searches but it didn't come up with very good solutions
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Excel question here. I'm trying to find the median of a "fixed" range of cells. However, Some of these cells in this range may not ever have a value. How can I write a function to find the median (and the average as well) of the cells only with values?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: isblank?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Thanks, Nuanse. That helped me figure it out. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: hey tech guys im trying to make a trigger that will play a sound file to alert me of "QUEST: You may now quest again." i am useing a mushclient can ne1 help me
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's your question?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what have you tried...
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: well its not working
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you go to settings, to triggers, and say new trigger, you just type/paste that into the top part, and you go to the sound section of the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: i remmeber you abel your helpfull
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing more to it
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the settings page where it lists triggers, make sure that trigger sounds checkbox is checked
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: well there is cuase it wont work
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ahh that might be it lol
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: =,=
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: nope its checked
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so its comthing else
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: what do you have as trigger? do you have regex checked?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: the trigger is "QUEST: You may now quest again." and then i went straight to the play sound file choose one and clicked ok went to test it and nothing waited 30 min and nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: when you're in your trigger definition window where you browsed for the sound file, did you click test?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: yes it plays there
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: the string of boxes on the side only has on box checked and thats enabled
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: the boxs at the top bold italic... those are all checked 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: make sure that there isn't a space after the period
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: idk you must of mispelled something, try adding * to the end
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: nope no space there
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: its copy pasted lol
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in the triggers list page, both checkboxes should be checked, enable trigs and enable trig sounds
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: also you can test triggers with echo, you dont have to wait for the acutal message
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: what is the drop box suppose to say cuase its on world atm
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: if you have regex checked, you need to escape the colon and period
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that wouldn't prevent it from working
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but again. is different from again\.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: where is regex @w
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need to escape colon, and period matches a literal period...it'd just match any other character as well
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but again. is different from but again\., but it still matches "but again."
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so your saying put the trigger in as *QUEST: You may now quest again.*
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so in the context of "this isn't working", it isn't an answer
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should just be QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: just test with echo til you get something that works
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: is is QUEST: You may now quest again.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check the "keep evaluating" checkbox
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and in the huge box in that trigger definition window, put "echo Hey, I matched the quest text!"
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then OK/save them all and type "echo QUEST: You may now quest again."
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was anything echoed to the screen
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ohh it worked there 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it echoed to the screen, but no sound?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: thats wierd it waits for a while to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It does work, it triggered my notification :D
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: our stuff triggered you, ranrr? you're not anchored? (or you mean echoing to yourself triggers you)
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yeah, i just can't be bothered to fix that. I know how to do it correctly, but product management decided it's a bug we can live with.
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: k i got it to work but for some reason it waits till next tick or somone talks but thats fine it works it all i need is a slight notification
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: and no its not "echoing"
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you put "echo Hey, I matched the quest text!" into the big box?
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, then it's not supposed to echo anything to you ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was having you do that to determine whether it's the "play sound" that was failing or the "match text"
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but since both are working, no need for the echo...it's the equivalent of programmers peppering code with print statements for debugging
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: ok i kinda get that 
T3/r7/2013-04-12.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: thank you guys this is goin to be nice
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Westclox Tech: how do i set a level of a room so that mush doesnt use it in gotos?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: mapper lockexit i think
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Just got iTuner since iTunes v11 broke my system tray info hover... wish I had used it years ago :-) Really good addition if you use iTunes
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: iTuner is for masochists that like mp3 noise ?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Are there chat capture windows for cmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im looking to "burn" a linux iso to a USB any suggestions on programs, or steps to take?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: use k3b
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: oops
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its not that simple, best to get a linux distro designed for usb
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was using unetbootin but it wont seem to let me install, it errors out
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: which distro is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: had first tried with centos, then i used a ubuntu server iso both failed
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: the only distro ive ever used with a usb stick was puppy linux and dsl linux, but they are kinda small versions of linux
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: does anyone know how to change the font/style in the 'communication log' window in the mushclient plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: right click the communication log bar
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: change font
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: and click change font
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fawlty Tech: genius! thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: Ihave mine set to 14
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: basic zmud question:  If i have a variable "test" and it has the value of 12, shouldn't #add est -1 decrease that value by 1?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: #add @test -1 rather
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: what would the correct syntax be to decrease the value by 1?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: #add @test -1 will create a variable "12" with a value of -1
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: when using the #commands that perform an operation on a variable
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: do not use the @ variable symbol in the name
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: it evaluates the reference
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: ahhhhhhhhh
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: which can be useful sometimes
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: try #add test -1
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: that did it.  I knew that too... deep down.  Thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: my pleasure :)
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ylar Tech: .....minutes later.
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: i know there are options to match based on text color in mush, but are there ways to capture parts of lines based on color?
T3/r7/2013-04-13.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: didnt you kind of answer your own question there?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: having trouble with mush when the buffer fills up i lag like mad  more to the point the game is unplayable i can  log off log back on still have the same issue but uf i stop playing for like a month two months i can normaly get a decant run with out that happening
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: is there a way i can empty that buffer  manualy
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't keep a buffer between starts of the program...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: under display, clear output buffer
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: I think I got it thank you
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: reduce the size of the buffer or get more RAM
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: what would be a  decant  range to set the buffer
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's up to you
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: stock setting is 9999
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mine is set to 99999
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: thats  what mine must be set too
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: I been clearing it manuely  every so often and been ok
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd find your setting under game -> configure -> output
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: press Alt+5 and you can see what yours is set to
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I let mine go to 500k, simply because even a completely full 500k line buffer pales in comparison to the mem leaks Mushclient has :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: since i learned how to do that
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mushclient doesn't leak memory for me
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: not sure what I do differently
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: thats what it is set at
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: 9999
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: idk whether it is due to aardmush stuff, or Bast stuff, or some magic combination, but I can hit over 8 gig if I leave Mush on for a few weeks :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sits down and thinks deeply. 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I've tried stepping through code, I've tried Bast's mem tracker, I've tried dumping the RAM and piecing through it manually, I can't find the reason
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even got the open source part of Mushclient to see if I could get it to leak, but nada
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: port*
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: all of mushclient is open source
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: various random people have complained about memory leaks for a long time, and I can never reproduce it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: does it make sense me clearing it mabuely has been working ?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: From what I can tell, it has to do with Mush's implementation of either sqlite, or tables, or communicating between the 2
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: or is that what my trouble is
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't imagine 10k lines being sufficient to ruin your performance, but if it is then clearing manually would of course work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: beeb clearing when i pray  nothing important is coming  across
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: sorry for my typos
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Pop open task manager, see how much RAM you're using, and how much RAM Mush is taking up
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: got it open but am kinda  computer dumb
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Got a performance tab? Click that
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only thing about mushclient that is hard on my computer is actually a Wine problem
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: looking at it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: find mushclient.exe. then look at mem usage
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Nah, just see if the highlighted part under 'Memory' is full or not
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: ok confused 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: i am running about  15 cpu it swaggers at times though
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: don't need 15 cpus when you have swag!
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: i bever dud anything to it 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rathen Tech: ok I have  the tm open not sure what i am to look at in proccess says  umder mushclient exc 21,760
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: What's a good degreaser that might be easy to find in a house/hotel?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Spit
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: dishsoap
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: To qualify this is tech I'm cleaning label residue off my laptop
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Definitely spit.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Dawn takes grease out of your way :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: lemon?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: urine!
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: vodka
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You giggle in his presence.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Thanks, bit of dawn soap + alchohol did the trick.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you didn't piss on it for good measure?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Need more alchohol first.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to disable all updates from windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes, but that's a stupid thing to do
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: in the updates control panel... but unless you REALLY know what you're doing, don't do that...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: sure disconnect from the internet
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i cant afford the updates i have little data and it just keeps eating my data
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ditch doze then
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll have less data when you get rooted
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aqiz Tech: ^^^
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: guys stop making fun please how do i stop my pc from updating
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: google how to stop windows 7 updates
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go into windows update, and click to configure
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: so i have a question about rooting a galaxy tab 2, does the peel remote app still work?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i think cheez had one also but he is frozen
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: why wouldn't it?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: rooting never makes fewer things work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: well if the drivers for it havent been ported to ta root rom then that would be a problem
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does on iOS Redryn :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I mean Fiendish...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You were sandwiched in the comments and it swam together o.0
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: jailbreaking also doesn't make fewer things work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also that's not how drivers work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does when the software you use to jailbreak something runs at a lower release # equivalent to the 'official' release of the OS
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i hate to be a nay sayer but you telling me that isn't how things should work doesn't mean that the irblaster will work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i mean i will still try it but i am not expecting it to work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the only thing rooting does is unlock permissions. you can have rooted stock.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok another question is there a way to see whzt is updating on my pc?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fiendish would you be willing to make a 2tp bet?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sabertooth: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vorpes: yes, are you?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same way as turning it off
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it will be based of my honestly. but if i root my samsund galaxy tab 2 and the peel app doesn't work will you give me 2 to
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: tp
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i meen other apps
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't trust your honesty, sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: cause i will give you 2 tp if it doesnt work. and by work i mean straight away after the rooting
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: look, I don't need your tp and I don't need your bet. I've rooted android devices before. Have you?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: fair enought i guess. how about this i will give you 2 tp if it doesnt work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: to see what is using your data, you'd really have to watch netstat output...you can look for apps which keep an auto-updater program running in the background
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: that is a lose win or a win win situation
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I already know it will work. How about you just give me 2 tp for passing that information along
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: vorpes do you mean you will give him 2 tp if it does work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: ok in the spirit of that comment we have a deal
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: because you're asking him to bet against his own position
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: no if it does work i will keep my tp
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is tcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: what is tcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: sorry...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: transfer control protocl
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: transmission control protocol, a reliable means of communicating via IP ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: netstat -anp is a nice way to check which apps use which sockets
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well all that netstat shows it aard and tcp....and aard never used this mutch data
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Sabertooth buries his face in his hand and sighs, shaking his head.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for netstat to be useful for this, you'd need to sample it periodically
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: programs that do updates only check for updates every now and then
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i found the culprit thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: is there a way to copy stuff from the main window with color codes in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im trying to delete a file and it keeps telling me its in use, is there a way to see what has it open?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: what operating system?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: win 7
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: In my experience, an application that has crashed can still 'call' for a file to be open. Have you tried rebooting? That will kill the app (assuming it isn't a system or start up application) and will allow you to delete it.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: where crash may include closing normally but not killing all it's parts.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont like restarting my computer, then i have connection issues because my cmos battery is dead and im to lazy to repalce it, though i do need to restart sometime soon, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bupy Tech: there may be other ways... but i'm a mac and I shun the complexities that it takes to fix them. If a sledge hammer works i'll use it (-8
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: always first try reboot before deleting...if that doesn't work, some guys who were involved in the really-low-level stuff at Microsoft created "sysinternals"...a collection of sweet utilities (www.sysinternals.com, it actually redirects to microsoft's technet)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: their "handle" utility will list all files which have process locks, andtheir "movefile" will let you mark an otherwise-undeletable file as "delete on reboot"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: so reboot everything to close a program thats making shit that sounds like a wicked way around
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: reboot does a lot more to help than closing a program...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: make sure you have permissions, too.. i had a file i couldn't delete even after reboots and as admin because the installer added deny privileges to it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I have a cmd shortcut batched to operate as windows root user because of crap like that... locked file? Lock this... BALETED
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: for what is Delphi 10 primarily suited
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Is there a simple command I can alias in MUSHclient to toggle a trigger on/off?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd make the alias use the EnableTrigger() function
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: That's what I figured, I think I tried it before and was just messing up the syntax somehow. Just want to be able to disable invis ring rewearing when I'm CRing and stuff ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I just use an "invis" alias which I remap
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Oh, I have that too, I just have a thing that hits that alias if I sacrifice a corpse.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mine's on kill message, cuz skin is one of its possible actions ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: should be able to do something along the lines of an alias of "noinvis", with action of EnableTrigger("sac_corpse", false), send to script
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then a similar doinvis which uses true instead of false
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Fiddling with it now.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or could get fancy and make just "noinvis" be a toggle...use GetTriggerInfo() to see if it's enabled and change that ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GetTriggerInfo("sac_corpse",8) will be "true" or "false", so you can do an if compare on that (and of course these rely on you putting a 'label' onto your trigs
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for bigger stuff, instead of just a label you can use trigger groups like the classes in zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Nod, this is about as far as I got last time, and it's not toggling for some weird reason. Trigger is labelled revis, alias to turn it off is EnableTrigger("revis", FALSE), going to script, and it's apparently not doing anything.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try lowercase false
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Oh, THERE we go.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You grin evilly.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: That's kinda silly, given the examples on Gammon's page use uppercase ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you looking at the VBSCRIPT example, or Lua examples?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in the in-client helps, only vbscript has true/false in caps
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Probably the wrong one, yeah. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Scrublord Wolfe Tech: Yeah, the VBscript one. OK, that makes a ton more sense. Thanks Abe :)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no prob :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zirikki Tech: how do i make a custom exit o u;u? it keeps registering as two diff commands
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you need to double the ; like ;;
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just like it says in 'mapper help exits'
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorwrath Tech: so just that everyone knows i have a droid phone and i have a aardwolf app that i can play this game with...you can play anywhere
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: in cmud i can do #if (@var) {#echo there is a var!} {#echo there is not a var}, in lua i tried if zs.var.var then print("look there is a var") end ... and while the first one works the second does not, any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did you have an else in there somewhere?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no im not using an else in the lua version
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then what do you expect it to do if it doesn't match?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what do you mean by first one and second one?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the first == example in zscript the second == lua
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: in cmud, that third {} is an implicit "else {}"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's never going to print there is not a var because you don't have an else.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if (expression is true) do {this} else do {this}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what you did in lua was if (expression is true) do {this} else {NULL}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it was doing NULL
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i only care if there is a true i dont care if there is an else
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you also need "then" in lua
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: He has "then" in it.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maych the zs.var.var to something
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: match*
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if zs.var.var = nil then print("Hi") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if zs.var.var ~= nil then print("Hi") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or actually...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: if zs.var.var ~= nil or zs.var.var ~= "" then print("Hi") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: that made everything match, maybe ill make the cmud var load into lua then check if its nil or not
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if this is all within cmud, you may need to do something to bring the variable into lua's scope
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The zs.var.var brings it into Lua's scope.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, wasn't sure if that was a table entry reference or what
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: like in MUSH, you'd do if (GetVariable("foovar") == nil) then Note("foovar doesn't exist") else Note("foovar exists") end
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im going to restart my computer see if that does anything my lua command line is not working either
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Restarting your computer won't fix bad code.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: doing var={} and it not doing nothing is not bad code :P
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you can't test bad code when your interface to the code doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It won't do anything, Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: var={} just creates a var table that is empty.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Did you attempt to type: print(var)?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: it is still printing out nil insted of nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should...there's no undefine for variables in lua, you set them empty
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: lua variables are all tables.  an empty table is the same as an empty variable
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In CMUD, when you create a table, print(tablename) will actually print the table instead of the table: FA032FB bit.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In this case, doing: var={}, then print(var) would return: []
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: local name zs.param(1).."_DB", local file zs.var.name, print(file) the print shows nil, does it not expand name while putting it into the var? it should work right?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Where is "zs.var.name" coming from?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: http://pastebin.com/P0ftZtsa
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Okay, if you're thinking the local dbname is referenced under zs.var.dbname, that's where your problem is coming from.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: zs.var.dbname looks for a CMUD variable called dbname, not a Lua variable called 'dbname'. When you create local dbname, you're creating a Lua variable.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though really, you could just do: local file = zs.param(1).."_DB"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No need to make 20 variables to get to one result.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i only set it up like that because in my scripts i always have $name=%1 and $dbname=%concat(%1,"_DB")
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That was excessive, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Unless you were using just the $name for something and $dbname for something else.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i normally do
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i normally match $name in a %ismember and use it for other stuff
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ah.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: thats why i build a name and a dbname variable, for each clanmember i have a <name>_DB and i store everything in the <name>_DB as my table, so i was trying to set this up the same way (im always told i need to stop thinking in zscript when coding lua)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Heh. You're better off creating a table within the table. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do that for my clan ranks.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: xuntitables{Etzli={level=142,rank="Tepiani"...},Player={level=1,rank="Can't spell it"...}...}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: tables within tables in lua is the same as nested datarecord variables...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then I can just do: xuntitables["Etzli"] to find out the information.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im not that good with doing that yet, so i tend to avoid it
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yes, Hanslanda, but in Lua, it's a bit more efficient, in my opinion, and much more readable.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not that hard at all, Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I have very few variables now because everything is pretty much in Lua. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, very few variables compared to what I had before...
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the "biggest" script i have done is my level report script which i dont need to do tricks like that
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: should have very few to begin with anyways.  Local variables are always going to be faster than stored ones.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My biggest script is my exp tracker script. Reports for year/lastyear, month/lastmonth, week/lastweek, today/yesterday, hour/lasthour, tier/lasttier, mort/lastmort, and level/lastlevel.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im working on re-coding the whole way i track clan info, hence trying to do it the way i was, but ill look into nesting databases
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Except, Hanslanda, when you store a lot of information.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you store a lot of info, use an actual SQL database.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Truth is, I can still cut out a number of variables. I've just been lazy lately.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: "a lot" is relative.. a few hundred thousand rows is fairly small in terms of dbs
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was actually looking at that at one point, to use the table system you use there to hold my clan info but i thought it would be meh
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure, I could use a SQL database. But why when I am more comfortable with Lua and saving tables?
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i tried using a SQL database at one point, it was slower then my variables
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: shrug, SQL is way faster than lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If you say so. I disagree, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i think it depends on the system
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And if SQL IS faster than Lua, the difference is so negligble, it's nanoseconds. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i dont think i ever made the lua for my level report public, ment to but forgot
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I made mine public. *shrug*
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: oh i remember i was trying to get it working with mush to have both a mush/cmud release but i could never get it working with mush
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at HelperMan Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Mine can easily be ported over to MUSH, too, with minor changes.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: the main body is pure lua, i just wanted the triggers working
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {This Year} Levels: 513 Pups: 1 Exp: 3,467,752 (1,461,992 bonus) Kills: 14,800 Gold: 62,099,517 Trains: 2070 (772 bonus) Pracs: 5659 Quests: 593 Campaigns: 46 (17388 qps) Trivia: 48 Bonus Stats: S{20} I{34} W{31} D{23} C{30} L{20}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just a sample. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto is startled and yells, "Eep!"
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli smirks at [Outlaw] Remarto's saying.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i stopped exp tracking, just my level report (which im thinking about making it save a remorts worth of levels)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: Level(99) Took:[H:0 M:6 S:28] HP(40)Mn(30)Mv(28)Pr(14)Tr(3+4)
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Last Level} Time: 07:18 Exp: 7,836 (3,986 bonus) Kills: 27 Gold: 82,649 Trains: 5 (1 bonus) Pracs: 12 Bonus Stats: L{1}
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Anyway, gotta go start up the lawn mower and mow my share of the 2 acres. Later for now.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto gallantly tips his hat to Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm using cmud - is there a way to change the font in the non-main windows? I can find it for the main one but not the others
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: on the left side of your pref on the top there is a box, you can change which window you are working on in there
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: or in settings click on the window, and click on prefrences on the bottom right
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: In the Preferences window, there's menu options to bold global settings.  If you turn that on, you can easily see which ones are specific to the selected window and which are applied to everything.
T3/r7/2013-04-14.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Thank you!
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: When I tried to save world in mush, it said access was denied. How can I fix this?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: don't put mushclient in a place where you can't write files
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: it's not.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: obviously it is
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tell me where your mushclient folder is
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: program files
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: probably windows7 and program folder
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: read up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh yeah, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, move your mushclient folder somewhere else
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: are the mush registry entries necessary for mush to run?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: nah, just copy the folder to somewhere else. 
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: what is the worst that can happen if I remove them? Just have to reinstall mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Are you sure it even has any?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I wonder if anyone has made some sort of terminal app for a rooted Kindle...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Not just that but you can get Cyanogenmod for Kindel Fire
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: But CM comes with a terminal app by default. It's quite nice too, has bash, tabs, etc.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: More like CM has bash and ssh included, but obv that's terminal related.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, not talking Fire - figured the tablet version would have something :-P Talking mudding on e-ink
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Oh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Hidden question being 'do I want to drop an extra $60 to get 3g' :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i have some unoccupied window space in my client any useful plugins to fill that space
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elxi Tech: Hard to say without knowing what you already have. I use a minimap, stats, cp/gq/quest mob, room characters, chat window, and group status.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: tell me about the cp/gq/quest mob one
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It does depend a lot on which client you use, of course
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: mush
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I use a combination of Aardmush plugins, Bast, and homebrew
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: And I would kill for some more real estate :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: my client was set up perfectly when i still had my CRT but now with my LCD it is all mixed up again and i cant resize my mapper because the resize thing is off screen
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: click and drag it onto the screen then resize?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i vant the resize button is like unaccessible
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: cant*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: the whole title bar lets me drag the windows around *ponder*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Are you using mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: not the resize button. Drag the whole window to a place wheren you can reach the resize button
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Each of my mini windows can be dragged in mush by clicking and holding down my mouse in the title area, then dragging them to the new location. If you're using mush that should let you reposition them in such a way that you can then reach the resize corner
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: yes mush and i drag the title bar as far as possible but it was sized in a larger resolution than my screen can support
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: So click on the right edge of the mini window and drag it off the screen to the left so that you can reach it?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you can't move or reach any of the corners just type 'resertaard'. This will reset all the windows to their original size and position.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: cant i only reset the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: dunno. Look at fiendish's site
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: I admit to being a bit confused. I've gone from 26 inch to 7 insch screen before and never had any problems resizing windows.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: has anyone set up triggers to email stuff using mushclient and smtp?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger raises his hand.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: for what is Delphi 10 primarily suited?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: delphi Oo thats still used other than for teaching?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is quite niche and legacied afaik
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: legacy'ed?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: our school is arranging a free license for Delphi 10 for the kids who want
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its not to bad
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zade Tech: Zmud was written in Delphi -- if that is a recommendation
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That seems like more a way to dissuage vs encourage, Zade :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: dissuade*
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well it is a free program and i wont try and write like a major app just to learn and to practice for the exams
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's what it's primarily suited for ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: it must be worth some thing our teacher has a degree in Delphi
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Heh, it /used/ to be worth something, it's fairly dead now.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pascal isn't really used in the real world...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: how do you get a degree in a single language?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, you can get an English degree :P That's one language ;) </SmartAssComment>
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That did not parse right...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It did in HTML 4 :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: maybe he got his degree at a college which is in delphi }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There's a free gcc compilers for windows. Dev-Bloodshed is one.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Wasn't there a Dev-C++ some time ago?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: iirc it's Dev-Bloodshed but does c/c++
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Dev-C++ is ok - but for any dev work with C++ on windows you are daft if you don't use VS
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Some time ago meaning about 1995-1998...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: and how is visual literacy
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I boot off a Ubuntu USB and use vim for editing. Then I reboot to compile in VS :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You can use VIM on windows...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: But not ssh and irssi and tmux as easily :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone here have any experience with a Python-Based Django Server running as a nginx -> gunicorn -> flask application using the requests library to POST PDF files?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: putty ftw
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Putt-Putt Putty resorts to cheering for himself... how sad.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: plenty of ported tools, or can use cygwin rather than dual-boot (or even a VM)
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: That's OK, I would just rather stay off Windows entirely.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: i can see the pdf being posted in ngrep, but when I do upload = request.files.get('file') if not upload: abort(400, "foobar") it'll always exit with 400
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, they do that at work, but I'm not involved
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: where can i download bbssh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Anyone had any luck with embedding conditionals into the aardmush cexit system? For example, I'd like to have a cexit in qong that opens the door if my hasQongKey variable is true, if not I want it to tell the mapper that there is no cexit defined.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I think you could add / remove cexit basing on whether hasQong is set or not
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Too many potential issues with that. I'll just add my own extension to the mapper cexit protocol
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean there I don't know whether there is such function but is seems quite easy to implement
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: shouldn't need an extension, just make an alias to open it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, cexit is just extension that connects 2 rooms
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so you rather should create / delete cexit than consider it conditional 
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I need the mapper to know though which path to take automagically, so it'll know what room for sure that cexit leads too. I don't want it to 'think' it's going to end up north of the door, and instead end up in the center when I have to 'grok earth' and continue the run from the wrong room
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: anyone here familiar with Glassfish/Oracle web server and/or database connection pooling?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Vaguely, TN
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nodnod, I hadn't read thoroughly enough...you can have the cexit do one thing or another, you can't have the cexit exist or not
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: nods, which is why I think I'll need to extend the built-in functionality a bit.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it wouldn't be in cexit logic, though
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: been trying to set up connection pooling with a maximum connection pool size of 32, yet it happily creates many many more database processes, which are mapped onto connections normally with a 1:1 ratio
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which suggests pooling either doesn't do what i think it does, or isn't working
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: isn't glassfish pooling just the default number of instances created, and more are spawned as-needed?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: supposed to be a starting number, and more created as needed up to a maximum
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And so it's creating > than specified starting point?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i'm pulling the number of processes out of the database end, and yes, starts at 8, which tallies with the db, but when you run some jmeter testing of the app, the database reports an ever increasing number of processes
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: which is an issue for us, because there's a limit to the number of processes the database can support
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger goes, "Hmmmm."
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: to all intents and purposes, the symptoms suggest that other than setting the initial pool size, glassfish is ignoring the pooling being enabled at all
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I haven't seen it do that before, but it's been a while since I last played with glassfish.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Typically it pretty strictly followes it's min/max configs though, you're sure you have the upper bound set?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: /ObligatoryWellDuhQuestion
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: why does my bbssh not want to scroll up and down?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: cuz it's a terminal :P
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: i mean i can't read what is going on can't scroll up, but with my bbssh it scrolls up when i set my friends one up it did not scroll so that i can read the rest of the text
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Annubis Tech: who can help me with my bbssh problem
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I can help, use a different client.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: How do you enable short score on tick?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: tickinfo
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: thank you much
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: anyone good with mushclient send me a tell pls?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: but then nobody else learns
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: (Overlord) Onslaught shrugs helplessly.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: the dumber the question the more welcome they are, really
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: okay... unlike zmud where I could make an alias and then use it to cast spells on either current fighting mobs or other mobs using keynames, mush seems to only recognize the alias without a following argument
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I only enjoy the really dumb ones
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: any way around this without using something more complicated?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: end your alias in * and then use "%1"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and if there's no argument, it'll still work?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: if you're smart about it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: yeah zmud has a lot of helpful systems in use like chain, alias, and ingame triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if I'm smart about it?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: i wish mush had triggers, sigh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uh, mush DOES have triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what's an "ingame trigger"?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: yes, they allow you to set triggers in the mud
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daesilme hands Torunkes his sarcasm sign.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I like this one. It's really dumb.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Haeloa: you're making me enjoy my time here
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Be nice...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok so if I use * and %1 I can use an argument, but I can't use it alone.. so I'll have to use an argument every time when it wouldn't be necessary to do so if I just want to blind the current mob, for example
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're right, I'm sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Haeloa Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can use * without any space before it, then Trim("%1")
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though who says you can't use it alone?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I just tried it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm pretty sure that an alias pattern of "pattern*" will also match on just "pattern"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if I use "ban *" for a banishment alias, I HAVE to use "ban mobname"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: if I just use "ban" for current mob, it doesn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did I just say about the space?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and trim?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: and trim
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: mud side alias's are nice for simple stuff like that
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: does trim go in the alias or the output?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: except there's a limit
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: really, trim isn't necessary
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and I've reached it
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it's necessary if he wants to remove the space
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: hint never put something in where output is expected.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: in this case he doesn't need to though, fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know what he wants to do
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Reaper Myrkul Tech: he said what he wants to do...
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok.. no space works, no trim required
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doink Tech: switch of the old mudsides to mush to make space for attack/maledict alias
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so just "ban*" and "c 'banishment' %1" will work with or without an argument
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: thanks for the patience
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: quickly testing, if regular expression is checked, "xxx *" will match just "xxx" but without it checked "xxx *" will not match "xxx"
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: also for a simple alias like this, Doink is correct. a mudside alias will work better
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well, not better, but the same
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well I already have mudside aliases maxed
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: or I would
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I was good scripting zmud... feel like an idiot again... more so than usual that is
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: anyway, thanks again... channel going back off :p
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anyone know how to prevent the random removal of my SD card in my android phone?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: superglue
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: duct tape or glue?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: make sure it's extra strength too
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: it doesnt have an actual removeable card...just says the card is removed,  and then i cant use my camera or accees pics until it comes back
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's a file system bug
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Upgrade the sw in the phone. If that doesn't work, it's probably a hardware issue.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: can i fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you probably need to replace your sd card. Android automatically unmounts the card after an IO error
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I had the same problem on my Droid 1 after a few years
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: it doesnt have a physical card..
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, I see. internal storage
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: man that sucks
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: still an IO error
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is it new?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: had it about a year
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: probably not under warranty then
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: have you rooted your phone?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Only malicious hackers do that.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: rooted?
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your question indicates that the answer is probably no
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just checking
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i have signs of hackers...stealing singular photosand then putting them back in pairs
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: anyway, this problem happened to me. I don't think there is actually a fix for it. You *might* try a factory reset if you don't mind wiping everything.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: have you tried googling the symptoms? i've read that stuff like that can be a sign your card is failing
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Jerk Fiendish sighs.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i bore the fbi....i think its the deadheads.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: i will have a laptop again! hopefully soon :p
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a friend of mine once thought he bored the fbi. now he's dead.
T3/r7/2013-04-15.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: they told me i was boring....but they stole from me...the blood sugar wrist monitor and the insulin cooler
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: question does anyone know if you can change the xrt room for a specific area using mapper?  the nenukon room always gives me an error when i try to xrt to it as it tries to put me in the middle of the maze :( - have to recall and rt which is annoying
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kalsch Tech: anyone here use us cellular as their cell carrier?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: nope not me
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, never even heard of them
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: there are probably hundreds or even thousands of carriers world wide....
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and looking at tech -h, for lorken's question, xrt isn't part of the mapper at all...it's part of winklewinkle's plugin...type xset help for details
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm presuming by the name that they're a Merkin carrier
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ww help throws out all winklewinkles plugin helps
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: Can anyone tell me how in MUSH to have hide and sneak which are two of my race abilities, re-enable as per bast's spellup even tho until i remort i will not be able to practice said abilities?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: why do my  tags get turned  on every time i play on my phone but on  my pc it doesnt happean
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: did you just try hide and sneak
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: your pc client likely turns them on then gags them, whereas your phone still has them on but does not gag them
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: aye, that does work, just been spoiled having a plugin do it for me i guess. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i see
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: set a trigger to the welcome screen do do it for you :)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: for the numberpad... is there any way to get CTRL+Shift or CTRL+ALT commands mapped?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: using aardmush, BTW
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not easily. What i did to simulate it, was to assign aliases to kp_1, kp_2, etc and then have an if-check inside those aliases for what sort of functionality to have. So for example if my DoCharge variable is true, then instead of going north, it will char north
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks like it's just a tad ouside my "feel good" zone.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I use the crap outa the ctrl settings... a shame that there isn't a box for ctrl, ctrl+shift AND ctrl+alt+shift
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not that hard. Modify it instead of sending north, send kp_8, and then add an alias called kp_8 that does if not DoCharge then Send('north') else Send("charge north") end
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or whatever functionality you want as the alternate.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what I need is similar... I want regular to be north... CTRL+8 to be 'open north;n", and for 'CTRL+8' to be 'mapper cexit open n;n'
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's not the best solution, but why not just have it send open anyways? The command doesn't have lag on it.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's the mandetory delay for 'mapper cexit' that keeps me from having it map every time I open a door... min is 2 sec
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: OH!
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the delay isn't on using a cexit
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Huh?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I see what your getting at
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'll go through as quickly as commands can be sent when you're using mapper goto
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: instead of just havin g '8' go north, it 'open n
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: op n;n, but yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: got it... not elegant... but it will work
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there is a little bit of lag when manually walking
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: extra stuff to parse, I guess
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no there isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you were tracking the issue earlier?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to vidblain, type "run 50e" and time that, then make an alias that sends e 50 times and time that
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iirc the mapper only uses individual commands and doesn't group into runs as well
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't doubt that the server executes the command just as fast... I believe the delay (and it's microscopic) is having to send and echo "open south - south - there is no door to the south of here" as opposed to "s"  that's alot more characters
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the number of characters don't matter as they're not serialized, and they're less time than a round-trip communication
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and CRs as well... not bad for one or two moves, but if I whack in a bunch of moves from memory, the delay adds up.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you've got something wrong on your end, since the delay doesn't exist in the base client, at the server, or anywhere in between
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm still working with it... I may not even notice or care in a few hours
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Abe, his solution will lag a bit. "op n" doesn't have any lag on it, but it does take the MUD time to process that before the "n" following it.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So since his keypad to go north does "op n;n" instead of just "n", yes it will be slowly, but only marginally.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: I think the open command was checked to have a .1s lag time
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not regarding manual vs non-manual no
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which was the lag-based claim
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are not more-or-less-efficient ways to perform that
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Then i misread what he was referring to. I thought he was continuing on the same topic as previously.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: everything on the MUD is performed in 1/8th second increments
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: IE, pulses
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I was, Cheeze...
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: same topic, different statement
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: So, you're saying that "op n;n" is slower than "n", or that "run 10e" is slower than #10 e
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: There was supposed to be a question mark at the end of that.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I meerly observed that it takes longer to execute "open X
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, as it should. but it's very marginal.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I meerly observed that it takes longer to execute "open X;X" than it does to execute "X"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: op n;n is slower than n, but that's not "there's a little bit of lag when manually walking"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: run is faster than the equivalent move commands, and open has a lag greater than 0, so x + open > x by definition
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: that's childhood's end.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Twisting FatesDagger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: run is not faster than the equivalent move commands
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, #10 e is the same as run 10e
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Within a hundreth of a second, in fact.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: test it large-scale in vidblain, with multiple runs
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That .01 second could very well just be latency on my end, though
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'll have more than .01 second differences doing the test 3 times using the same command, so yeah, it'd be jitter
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: what does the http proxy mode do? i got two options  namely PERSISTANT and Transient.. if i select one i must type in HTTP Proxy host in a bar beneath it.. I'm using bbssh
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you likely don't want any http proxy mode
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you're not sure what it is, you probably don't need it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: won't i get bonus qp from mccp if i do?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: zz
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: MT
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol (:
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I agree on both of you but what does it do?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mccp != http proxty
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: proxy*
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, you'll get bonus QPs from mccp if you use mccp, not if you use an http proxy
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: what can i type in proxy host name?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: oh ok ty
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only thing to type into that field is what your cell provider tells you to put there
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they probably don't have anything set up for it, so nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: nah I'm happy the way my game runs :) just thought i could get bonys qp
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could run an mccp proxy to get the bonus QPs, but that still would not be put into the http proxy field
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd install and run that mccp proxy program on a computer that you own/control, and would put that into the address instead of aardmud.org to connect
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: can i run mccp on cell?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: i don't got a computer, can ylu get that adress for me?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not really, no. There's ways, but they are not easy to set up.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that address would be wherever you have it running
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I think some phone mud clients have mccp though, such as iMud and Blowtorch
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not an address other than one that you would end up providing to yourself
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ok ty i understand I'll try to get a new client 
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There is really no reason why a phone client couldn't do mccp. It "just" needs to be implemented.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes, there are a number of cell MUD client apps which support mccp, but none for blackberry that I know of
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger . o O ( That's what you get for going blackberry :P )
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol (: very cheap internet :) bb playbook
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Aren't blackberries only used in weird countries, like canada? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Meh, the bb10 has a fair bit of sales in US still
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: its techically blackberry's as its a proper noun
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not like an iphone release, but still used.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: proper noun doesn't change pluralization rule
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not an Imm Erikson Tech: That doesn't mean they're _used_, just sold  ;p
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Fair point ;P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you would never pluralize using an appostrophe
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: bb10 not so good for internet because no monthly data fee you can get for cheap
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That's a per-plan basis, not per-phone :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What does the phone type have to do with what the data plan costs?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: i love my blackberry :) 
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it doesn't, as I said :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I'm too slow :D
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: if your not wealthy then it matters.. duh
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can for whether data is internet data or data is BBM
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How? Does your phone come with a plan attached?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: If my wealthy then it matters?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: like 5 dollars a month fir uncapped downloading surfing etc.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Again, that's dependant on your data plan, not your phone model.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If they don't offer that particular plan for the bb10, then they don't offer it. But, the type of phone does not affect the limits directly.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, data plans are attached to the sim card, not the phone... or do you have a different system in the americas?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it can, many providers offer different plans depending on the capabilities of the device...like for a midp phone, unlimited surfing is much cheaper than for a "real" smartphone
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and tablets often have different data plans available than for phones
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, yeah. But still what it boils down to, is that they don't offer his current plan on the bb10, but the phone doesn't control the data limits :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it controls his data plan limit options
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not trying to argue that, just helping him word his statements better :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: in south africa bb us the only phone you pay a monthly fee for uncapped downloads, androids don't got that ... they are insanely expensive to downliad a few gigs.. but mayb its different in other countries
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is what he said...he can't data plans on bb10 for the same price as he's getting them for the playbook which is a tablet
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: In Sweden, phones are one thing, data plans another. And data plans are connected to the sim card, no matter which phone I put it into.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't keep up on BB news at all, wasn't even aware they had a tablet :P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How does that work, since BB's trademark is the physical keyboard?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: the bb playbook is sweet ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: which is also why so many SA plans allow included data to mxit through Internet data, but charge separately for other Internet data access
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: touch screen
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: how do you know this Cain?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, this week is the 2-year anniversary of the BB playbook
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: slyzora: mxit worked with Lasher to offer a connection from mxit to aardwolf, and we got a huge influx of mxiters
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol Cain , your quite clued up
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I know it's a touch screen. A tablet with a physical keyboard is a laptop :P (or yoga, surface, etc)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: oh ok Cain :)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol Cheezy :D
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: mxit is where i found aardwolf :) 
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I even have a mxit account :-) (but sadly can't get to Aard from it, as that connection requires 500 mxit moola a month, and you can't get moola from the US)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: I'll transefer you moola next month :) then ylu can try it out
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: mxit is from like south africa isnt it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes mattk, although it's generally available anywhere
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: yes its created in south africa, but i think it was last year an overseas company bought it out, they upgraded it allot
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Old trick, offer the customer a sandboxed product they can control and keep you in for a lower cost than the real product (e.g. AOL). Doesn't cost them less, but makes it harder for you to switch provider.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: compuserve before aol...aol did it much better though
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: how many minutes does aard gives you to idle ?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: after 15 minutes you get the 'Your eyes glaze over' message. Don't know hiw much longer you get
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: if you want anti idle functionality, just use a trigger on this: "Your eyes glaze over." that does "look"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: oh, reason why I'm asking is because my client keep alive setting was set to 6min.. when i return from AFK after 6 min it doesn't register any input but i do get fresh game info.. I've set the keep alive to 1 min now, now i can be away for 30 min and when i come back it registers my input..
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: ty i sorted it now
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you don't even need to look in order to stay online without idling out...just hitting "enter" is enough...and it's much more foolproof to use a timer than a trigger...the trigger text is subject to change (it's not likely to change often, but it HAS changed since I've been playing, which screwed up lots of people's idle trigs)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for instructions on doing a timer-based anti-idle in MUSHclient, board general, note read 23206
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: thanks ! I'll read it now
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i need a simple lua example for miniwin. so far every example had zillion of functions that drives me nuts. i only need a working one with text+hotspots. any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: anyone know how i get the void to coughup my camera and my youtube? (android phone)
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: omg. i want my sd card back :/
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: anyone around who knows ac units?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: We need a Mechanic channel ;x
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: could try gossip
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kashra Tech: what's wrong with it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: enough to say dont mess with that freon. it can be deadly
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Styx needs hos AC working so he can "bring back paradise"
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Keeps momentarily shutting off then coming right back on, and by momentarily, I mean split second.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: happens randomly, but enough that you notice it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Check the batteries in your themosat?  Some of the electrical thermostats can do wacky stuff if they get low batteries.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: id say its on too cold of a temp
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: I have a Nest, it better not be my thermostat ;x
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: ac's  can freeze themselves
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Its on 74, not too low a temp.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: how do you like the nest, styx?
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: Love it, except if its causing this, but the little I could find online doesn't suggest its the thermostat
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: So I love it
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: It actually sounds like you've got something breaking up your return so that it's getting blasts of colder air at the thermostat sensor that is momentarily causing it to kick off and back on, when the air temp re-regulates.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: altho lately I've had a bit of trouble keeping it connected to the wifi, wants to drop the signal a lot.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: but regardless - I'd be calling someone out to take a look at it and test - you don't want to have to deal with a blown motor if it keeps up
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: other alternative is that you could need a freon recharge.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: True that, guess I'll do tht tomorrow, was just hoping to find someone who could tell me what it sounds like.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Might also be a faulty thermo sensor as well.  Those can go bad and start getting noisy, sending erroneous spikes that tell the system to shut down.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: I'll tell you what I did last year.  I didn't call for a service when my started doing wacky shit last year, and I ended up with a $4000.00 new install.  So, my recommendation, is don't do what I did. *wry grin*
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: In any event, call an HVAC guy.  They'll be able to troubleshoot it a lot better than the goons on tech =P
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: ya ya, I'll call them.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: mmmmm goons
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: hired goons, no less.
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: anyone familiar with "MUSHclient" have any ideas why my "big map" is not showing up??? i haven't played in a while and i'm new to MUDs...
T3/r7/2013-04-16.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try typing "bigmap on"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: tried it, resulted with : invalid bigmap option given
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "bigmap help", see what options exist...I'm guessing your version of MUSHclient is from before it had the on/off commands
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so it's probably bigmap show
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: typing "bigmap" shows the bigmap, but not in the bigmap tab... weird... s
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ahh, try typing "tags bigmap on"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: actually, it looks like you don't have the bigmap plugin loaded, as that "Invalid bigmap option given." response is from the MUD and not from the bigmap plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go to file -> plugins, and one of the first ones should be Aardwolf_BigMap_Graphical...make sure it's there, and that the second-last column in its listing is Yes for enabled
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: success! thank you sir! i would not have figured that out... 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what does 'checkversion' say for you, Antrei?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: where do i type that?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just at the command line
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: it says: sorry antrei, you can't do that
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's what I figured
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't think you're actually using the aardwolf mushclient package
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: meaning?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: meaning where did you download mushclient from?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: good question... i dl'd it about 3 yrs ago... maybe i just googled mudclient? 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: i just started playing again, so i haven't even explored the options of anything recent
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: interesting
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: well I wonder how much success you could have had from abelinc's instructions
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: link him to your google page fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: https://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ok
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: what do you mean, his instructions worked for me... the tab now displays :
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: "the map will appear here when you move 'outside'
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd investigate further, but if you're happy then I'm happy
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Antrei Tech: i do love a good investigation, but i'm just not sure what you are wanting to investigate
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: For some reason, my health bar plugin (mush) isn't loading - any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what did you do recently
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Nothing. Its the first time loading mush since I added Bast's plugins, Ive had a similar issue
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nothing. something. maybe it's behind another miniwindow?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I don't think so. When I opened mush, I got an error message
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah but error messages are never important
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Aurelia blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I read it. It didn't refer to a plugin that was missing though, so I'm not sure whats wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm sure everything is working normally. Don't bother telling me the error message.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: General problem with a paramater to script call - setuphotspotsand draw
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: go on
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: possibly a problem creating the window if its the first time running, but its not - this is the second time I've opened it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I think we've established already though that you're not actually able to troubleshoot this. You should stick to telling me what the error message said.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Reason: Executing plugin Aardwolf_Health_Bars sub OnPluginInstall
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm sure I already know the problem and the solution.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Except I know there's more to the error message than that, and I won't tell you until you show the rest of it.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I've shown it all
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you showed one line
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: plugin error messages always show a backtrace
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so like at least 10 lines
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Anyway, like I said, I already know what the problem and the solution are. But if I didn't you'd be in a real fix, because you're doing an apallingly bad job of providing information to the only person who can help you.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: replace your health bars plugin with this version https://aardwolfclientpackage.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/MUSHclient/worlds/plugins/aard_health_bars_gmcp.xml
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: With a small amount of luck it will solve your "general problem" problem that happened after you did nothing except for those things you did.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: And in the future please be more honest.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Awesome, it fixed it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zarra Tech: always be honest. its so much easier
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Gorelab Tech: history
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: of course it did
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: stupid lua
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I've spent the past hour or so trying to figure out why print(a,b) shows "19 19" but "a = b" breaks something. it turns out that a-b is 3.5527136788005e-015 and print is just lying to me
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: crap...
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dochyel Tech: oh
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: any MSSQL server people around? i have a borked sql server 2008 instance (or service?) that i want to remove. i'm really bad with it's terminology and google results are a bit confusing
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: k. apparently it doesn't have the option in the install center, but you have to go to add-remove progams and it gives you the option during server uninstall. problem solved
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Slyzora Tech: lol you confused me :)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: did anyone install java update ver 21?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: got rid of java long time ago
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: did it break something?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: why? no good?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: got browser error of some sort
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: if you absolutely positively NEED java in the browser, keep it. otherwise get rid of the browser plugins. it's asking for trouble
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: mind telling me y? memory hog?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i had it installed for openoffice and later libre, but libre works fine without java nowdays
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: because java is pretty much the most unsafe thing you can run in your browser
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: google "java exploit"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so if you don't absolutely need it (usually some web app used for work), uninstall it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: lol this is bad, thank Dagnir..I just know
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: chrome should ask you if you really-really want to run java on some pages, so it's not that bad
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: but the updater is still annoying and there's usually no reason to have it installed
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I manually update, but
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: I disable the auto update feature
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: I'm having an issue with my quest miniwindow (mush) - earlier, it worked fine but now when I pick up a quest the miniwindow is blank, any thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: try re-installing it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if by blank you mean black. The general solution is to restart mush.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it happens often
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Not really
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: you would be supprised aurelia
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: lets say this will not be a one time event. It happens to quest window and sometimes to area map window
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: using bast's plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: known bug
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: oh come on! Aurelia thought Ayasinda was 'asking' if it happened often to Aurelia... while Ayasinda ment that it just happens alot.. period.  CONFUSION!
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: no solution other than restarting mush
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: restart events plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think it sometimes happens to the gquest window aswell
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: ohk, we'll see
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you can also try 'mquest quest <open/front>'
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: what does that do?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that will ensure that the window is open, and bring it out from behind any other windows if it got hid, accidentally
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aurelia Tech: oh nice, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think that opens up the window and brings it to the front, and thats not the problem von
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lag
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: no... not in this case.. .but it's useful all the same
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: the problem is that the window sometimes turns completely black
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's the one that gets my nuts outa the fire from time to time.. My quest mini window just disappears from time to time
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto rapidly nods twice at Ayasinda, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: anyone every have a problem where they can not connect to google.com but can connect to gmail.com? gmail seems to be the only website that works for me ATM
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: what symbol represents getvariable on mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: symbol?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Capitalization matters - GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods at Pedwiddle.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: wasnt it @ or something?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: what are you trying to do?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how would you use it in a execute line?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: trying to get a variable in a tell line
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you have a MUSH variable called foo, you can do @foo and check the box for expand variables
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: no need for getvariable
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming you're sending to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: got a bit of script before it
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Then you can't send to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: well, unless you're using a scripting prefix
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Either send to execute (or world is fine) and use @foo, or send to script and use GetVariable("foo")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: i thought thats what Execute(" tell clan im fkreason") does...
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: as an example
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you're sending to script, then yeah: Execute("tell mike I like "..GetVariable("foo"))
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Actually, just @foo would probably work in that case, too, if you have expand variables checked
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But not positive
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: assuming you did: Execute("tell mike I like "..@foo)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The first should definitely work.  I think the second one will too, but not positive.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm not sure that would work as you would like.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: For example, if foo was 'hello' it would expand into Execute("tell mike I like "..hello) <-- note the lack of "s
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: all mush variables are strings
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: actual mush variables, that is, not variables inside a script/plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes, but I'm pretttttty sure it drops it in literally without trying to add quotes around it or anything.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: "literally" in this case already has quotes
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: for all intents and purposes
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: well,i unchecked and checked expanded variables,seems to be working
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yeah, totally just tried it.  If you do "Execute("echo test " .. oo)" and the string value of oo doesn't contain quotes, you'll get a script error.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: do you have expand variables checked
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: +?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You'll want to Execute("echo test " .. "oo") almost certainly
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Err
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Execute("echo test " .. "@foo")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I think that probably means expand variables just doesn't work when you're sending to script
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Because it exapnded @foo into bar, so you get Execute("echo test " .. bar)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: And bar is treated as a variable in Lua, NOT a string.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It works your way?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes... though if you have quotes in @foo, you'll have more trouble :P
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lamya Tech: Why are "foo" and "bar" used so often as hypothetical variable names?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh...I'm surprised
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Really, if you want to do that kinda stuff with variables, should just be sending to Execute in the first place.  Using the @ stuff in send to script just causes trouble.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Lots of trouble.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: If you use GetVariable("foo") instead of @foo, does it work?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: without the quotes, I mean
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh, I always assumed that GetVariable("foo") and @foo would return the same thing
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Nah, the difference is that @foo is evaluated before passing to the Lua engine.  There's no way for it to know you want a string or a number of what, so it does just drop it in and hopes you know what you're doing.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: or what*
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nods, nice to know
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but yeah, my bad
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: in mush, if alias takes multiple arguments, and i want to execute it with a space in one argument, can i do this without using a regular expression or additional code in the alias itself? (IIRC, zmud let you do "aliasname {arg1 with space} arg2" or something like that so %1 would be "arg1 with space")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is this alias going to have arg-with-space potential for each argument or just a specific one?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: lua script. whats wrong with that: Execute ("k",  mitmes,  "a")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .. not ,
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: Execute ("k" ..  mitmes ..  "a") ?. tried, not working. must be something else..
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: two arguments and the possibility for both, hanslanda
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: what is mitmes?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: a varable
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .... i know that. What is contained.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: "2."
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that's k2.a
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: try Execute("k"..tostring(mitmes).."a")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: that's your problem
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But you need a space after k, so Execute("k "..tostring(mitmes).."a")
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: thanks. still doesn't work. its something else
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That on it's own works perfectly, is mitmes actually being set? Can't concatenate nullstrings
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: try "k "
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: SetVariable ("mitmes", "2." )
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Don't put the . in the variable, put that in the static string
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its something completely different, as always. but thanks, again.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: help us help others...say what the issue turned out to be :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no lbuttons work at any hotspots now. just trying to figure it out
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: oh, so your execute simply wasn't being called?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: yep
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I was gonna ask for clarification on "doesn't work", whether lua error or bad MUD output
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if simply "nothing", then yeah, it wouldn't have been an execute syntax issue
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: there is nothing happening with lbutton on any hotspots. no nothing
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Try turning you numlock on/off? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: your*
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wait, your keypad isn't working, or some miniwindows?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i try planting my hair back
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: no mouse
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i mean.. no, mouse lbutton on my fres new miniwin
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now i'm going to ask the obvious here, don't laugh. Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: wrong social. i meant.. grrr
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Ok, start from the beginning here because I'm becoming confused with what isn't working. What /exactly/ isn't working?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have created a miniwin. with a few hotspots for mouse buttons. rbutton works and does something, lbutton doesnt do anything. it was ok until the new commands. oh. it just takes a few minutes to get it right i guess. nevermind
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: okay so if I want to highlight a line of text based on a keyword within that line... how would I go about it? In mushclient of course
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: when you're making a trigger, there's a section to change the background color
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: So just make a trigger that matches "*keyword*", and change the background color
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can even do word highlights by just selecting the word and going to display -> highlight word
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that would just do the word and not the line tho
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: huh, never even knew that existed
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ok I see that.. cool, thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you'll see that all that does is create the trigger for you so it'll show up there
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: perfect :)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what's the word, we'll test it }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I use locate animal warhorse to find door mobs for Horizon and DoD. Highlighting the line makes finding the right number warhorse easier. Already set triggers for bothwaand working perfectly
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the 3rd was iron man 2
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if I'm buying RAM and the max per slot is 8gb, then I'd want the 2x4gb modules and not the 2x8gb, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: just go to crucial.com and ask it what kind you need
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Doesn't work. Do I need a microphone or something?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if the mobo supports 8GB per slot, and you want to leave the most availability for future expansion, then you'd want 8GB sticks
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: course you'd have to decide how big you'd reasonably ever want to go with the current hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: more than 8GB is probably stupid
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you'll replace the computer before you need more
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there an inherent math system in mush like zmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: there is an inherent math system in all programming languages. maybe try explaining what you actually want.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in zmud I could do #MATH equation
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: is there something equivalent in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: yes mush can do math also.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: though command line?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and what is the command?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Mostly just use whatever your script prefix is and do math in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\print(1+1)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: I don't have a script prefix nor do I know lua
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yes you do
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't need to.  Simple math all looks exactly like you'd think simple math looks like.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: your script prefix is \\\
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: 1 plus 1 equals banana?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei asks you, "What do you get if you multiply 6 by 9?"
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei proclaims, "The answer is 42!" But what was the question?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\print(42)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: \\\2+2= gave me a compile error
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bacon!
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Remove the =
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Onslaught, what did I just tell you to type?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I said \\\print(1+1)
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you said that AFTER I tried it, but okay
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so why would you type \\\2+2= ?
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you couldn't have done it after if you didn't know you had a script prefix
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: s/after/before
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: you said the script was 
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: \\\ BEFORE you said \\\pri nt
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: well whatever, I got it to work, so thanks :p
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [17 Apr 23:46:53] Fiendish Tech: \\\print(1+1)...[17 Apr 23:47:41] Fiendish Tech: your script prefix is \\\
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: [17 Apr 23:45:50] Onslaught Tech: and what is the command?   [17 Apr 23:46:53] Fiendish Tech: \\\print(1+1)    [17 Apr 23:47:13] Onslaught Tech: I don't have a script prefix nor do I know lua
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: all right all right geez
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Atoam Tech: Well of course it looks bad if you lay it out all in chronological order like that.
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Look, there's time travel involved here.  s
T3/r7/2013-04-17.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: things don't really happen chronologically. we rely on the historians to put it into order for us.
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: and again... in zmud you used ~ to prevent client-side commants from executing... like ~
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ~: or whatever
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: mush equivalent?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if you're using lua, --
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: --
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i think
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: commants?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Wait, Communist ants?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: with mapper is there a way of setting a room noportal/norecall rather than attempting to use a portal/recalling?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: it's gmcp_mapper and noportal script in there. you can create alias for that. but there is no written one yet
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Putt-Putt Putty Tech: anyone tell me where the menu button is in blowtorch...i cant seem to find it
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: hey is there anyway to change the background on the muchclient aardwolf? the black really hurts my eyes, and its basicly unplayable
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Black hurts your eyes?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the brightness of non-glare ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: writing on black backgrounds hurts my eyes for some reason
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the background is actually a picture of a wolf
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: its still mostly black though
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can put a different-color picture in its place
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: how?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: find (or make, use mspaint to just make a solid color) and name it the same
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: ah ok so in the same folder then, got ya
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient\worlds\plugins\images
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_remove_or_change_the_Aardwolf_logo_background_image_in
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could even use one of those terrain tile pictures that are already there
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: yeah i was thinknig of that
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: so which one is it? there are 3 of the same
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they're not the same, and the link bast just posted says exactly which one
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: ah! thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the site which that link is in, is the "home" of the aard mushclient package...the wiki there has TONS of info about it :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mrcakehats Tech: i think now its slightly better! just have to experiment with different background
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: whats the not equal to sign on mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: ~=
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ~=
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ok please explain this 1103/1071hp
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: glitch?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: aid spell or some other such thing?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: vampiric proc gives you hp that can exceed your maximum.. when tick occurs it will go back to the maximum
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: usually aid spell for me
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: but i aint a vampire
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: or aid .. vampiric is a weapon property, not a race skill
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how do you subtract from a variable eg i set a variable for a amount of pots bought and want to subtract for each i drink?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: similar to this: world.SetVariable("player_level",tonumber(world.GetVariable("player_level") ) + 1 )
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leucin Tech: might i have accidentally turned on something that is showing me table{} and room info each time i move?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calica Tech: any help for a good client for mac?
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: I use Mush through WINE on my MacBook
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Calica, just run mush through wine
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i use much on wine too
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: mush*
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: https://code.google.com/p/aardwolfclientpackage/wiki/MacLinux
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: like everything, find a way to run windows programs..wine or parllels
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: but I use mush wine on mint
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, the guy that makes the aard mushclient package generally runs it under wine
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Calica Tech: huh
T3/r7/2013-04-18.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: ha!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Is anyone familiar with Lua?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Just ask your question.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, Etzli. I know a little about Lua, and I'm new to creating tables. I'd like to create a table for a list of <player>. When using "alts <player>", it displays a list of that character's alt, if there are any recorded.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: alts *
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So what's your question regarding Lua?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: having trouble with creating the table or reporting it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Question: How would I go about this? Would I need to create a table with tables inside of it? If so, I have no idea how to even start, then.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Quite easy.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: The most I've done with tables is use them to keep a list of items I don't want -- if <item looted> matches, then it automatically drops and sacrifices them.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yes tables within a table would be the way to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: alttable = {<player>={<alt>},<player2>={<alt2>,<alt3>}}
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh, and I neglected to mention my client. As I'm sure it could be guessed, I'm using MUSHclient.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Guessed, maybe. But Lua isn't exclusive to MUSH. I use it in CMUD all the time.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh, I didn't know you could use Lua in CMUD. I should give CMUD a try sometime.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Eh, if you're happy with MUSH, stick with it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm just stuck on CMUD because I've done zscript for the past 15 years.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh, wow, that's quite some time. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But back to the problem at hand.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Once you've created your alt table, you can create an alias to add more alts.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: http://pastie.org/7657631 <- This is an example of a table I've made for a friend.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I'll post another pastie of adding a table in a second, which will represent my thoughts about going into this.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Give me a moment here. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, Etzli. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I thought of another factor as well. Let's say Gammon has an alt, which I added. {Gammon{Nick}} If I did a search for Nick, would it result in showing the relation between Nick and Gammon? Or would it treat it as another player and return with "No alts found for Nick"? 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://pastebin.com/MBg6Fta3 -- I'm not 100% sure it works. I'm a bit inebriated, but check it out, try it, and report back.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As it stands, it'd show "No alts found for Nick."
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: However, given Lua's speed, you could easily adapt it to search both key and alt fields.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: May I be welcome to bother you if I have any issues in trying to adapt it to such a function?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, not "easily" but you could possibly do it that way.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: (Also. Wow, that was quick.)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Sure, though I'll probably be heading to bed shortly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: No problem, in that case, I'll communicate through tells in the event you're offline. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you very much for your help, Etzli. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Of course. My tells are always on, I'm always* online (*disclaimer: except when I'm not...), and you can use the note system if you have to in either case.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Damn it, now I'm curious. I'm actually working and testing this myself to see if I can make it work... Thanks, Registry. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I'm glad I could help. In that case, would it be beneficial to add alttable = "%1" or {} in the beginning of the adding alts alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: http://xkcd.com/356/ I think this just happened to Etz
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Or, rather, glad I could keep you... Curious? D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at Daloran.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, it wouldn't.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Daloran licks Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ah. Well, I have an error when I try to "alts add test othertest
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: "
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Error is: [string "Alias: "]:2: attempt to index global 'alttable' (a string value)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You're probably going to need to make the adding part its own alias, though, hmm.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: It is. I'll make a pastie of it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: http://pastie.org/7658106
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, for starters, we didn't initally create the table, which is where the problem lies. You can do so now by typing: \\\alttable={}
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then you can run the addalt alias again.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Done! :D
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: However, with three quick functions, I've managed to answer all of your concerns, I believe.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Running that same alts add command twice resulted in another error, as well.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Wait, nevermind. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://pastebin.com/ZqEvuznm
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Use those functions.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: How are you so quick to make things? I feel like a snail compared to you. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'd do: addalt("name","alt")
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Then: findalt("name") -- You can use whatever name suits you at the moment (in reference to your Gammon/Nick, you could search for either Nick OR Gammon).
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You don't need to worry about the searchnicks part, that's just a helper function.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: As for how am I so quick... well, I have a lot of experience.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Melvin]: Hanford, CA: Clear Temp: 52.5 F (11.4 C) Humidity: 68%.  Wind: NNW at 0mph.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My weatherbot, written in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: For instance. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Keep in mind I didn't add "user-error" checking.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: "user-error" checking? As in, typographical erros?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Lua's a fickle language in that it is case-sensitive. So, "Registry" will not match "registry" or "RegiStrY".
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: errors *
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So you can either be consistent with how you put your names in (always lowercase, always uppercase, always propercase), or you can add it yourself by forcing Lua to look at string.upper.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Would I just copy and paste that into my alts add alias? The whole thing? Or the first part would be alts add, and the last two be in alts list?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It wouldn't matter where you put them because once they're loaded, they're loaded. You might consider just doing it separately, like the latter of your two options.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, I'm not sure how MUSH saves variables, but if it's anything like CMUD, once you exit MUSH, the Lua variables are cleared since they're stored in local memory. This means that unless you save the table itself or set it to a variable, you'll have to re-add all alts each time you restart MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Yeah. I was curious as to that. I wonder if saving would be the same as saving for just one table.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I've never used string.upper, but for names, I'd be insistent upon it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I hate being so new. D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, there's a table.save function that you can use. I use it for all my tracking.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh. I'll have to look that up sometime to see how I'd use it. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's something someone wrote up. It saves a local file to your hard drive. It's quite nice, really.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: So I wouldn't this in MUSHclient's forums?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's for that reason I'm able to not use CMUD variables at all.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I don't know if you'd find it in MUSHclient's forums.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, lua-users.org -- great resource for learning a variety of tricks with Lua. It's where I got the table.save/load function.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ah, I see. As a new user, I get a tad confused when trying to incorporate the lessons there to applying them in MUSHclient. Is there a tad difference? How would I treat this?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: How do you mean? If you're asking what changes you'd make from a code you found on lua-users.org to incorporate it into MUSH, I doubt there's much you'd need to change at all.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: (For example, I recently learned to use a MUSHclient operation first, before Lua. For example: Note(table.concat(stuff goes here)) (This could be seen in the first pastie I provided, in "notrick list" or some such.)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That was, actually.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Really, anything you find inside MUSH (such as the Note() function) are just Lua functions pre-loaded with MUSH.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Okay. Well, I believe I have only one more question. Which I'm having troubles looking up online. Or I don't know how to use the internet. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also, if you're looking to use string.upper to make things more consistent no matter how you enter names, just add the following line to the start of the addalt function: local uname, ualt = string.upper(name), string.upper(alt) --- then change all the "name" and "alt" to "uname" and "ualt" in that function.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll want to add: local uname = string.upper(name) --- to the other two functions, however, and make the same changes of name to uname.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Wow, that was it. Thank you very much Etzli. Are there any kind of lists I can make that a player might find useful? I have one for items looted from corpses already, one for a bag that generates item (which was for my friend, he plays a different game)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm not really a lists type of person.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: So, I wouldn't even begin to know where to look, ultimately. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm more for the information.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Hmm. Well, what kind of things would you make, Etzli? You already have a weatherbot, which is really cool. But I'd like to lean to more in-game things.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: information (noun) : Knowledge derived from study, experience, or instruction.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli blinks innocently.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Also have a definition bot.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But... in-game things...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That is awesome. :O
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I get bored sometimes.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ingame things hmmm
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I wish I had your knowledge, Etzli. Seriously. :(
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: how about..
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: Str[245/171] Int[391/300] Wis[259/226] Dex[222/131] Con[180/133] Luck[256/190] Total Stats[1553/1151] HR/DR[348/517]
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It's why I wrote the Mafia stats script. Collectible information on anyone who has played a mafia game.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ooooo! Now THAT has got to be handy.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Top Ten in Vigilante Wins] 1) Trurien (10) 2) Liathum (5) 3) Krypteria (5) 4) Katta (4) 5) Sybacco (3) 6) Lemontree (3) 7) Electrobite (3) 8) Cuddlez (2) 9) Memnarch (2) 10) Gadwyn (2) 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeahi wish i knew how you did that etz
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: For real. Etzli, sheesh. Teach me your ways. :(
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Or even...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: [Mafia Stats] Etzli: Mafia (W:32/P:124), Vigilante (W:2/P:30), Police (61), Doctor (50), and Citizen (W:54/P:193). Alive/Games played: 123/458 (26.86%). Team wins (M/C): 54/112.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: dam im not even in your top 10 :(
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Trust me, you're not the first person to state that. ;) I don't know how I do it. But... there are many others much better than I am. I just tinker around with things until I get it right.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: {Ping to www.google.com Min: 40ms Avg: 41ms Max: 46ms}
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That was also done in Lua.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: lol the best ive done is get data from GMCP :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah, I fail at that when it comes to MUSH. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I'm trying to learn to do that using clientside aliases and whatnot. It's frustrating for me.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: GMCP isnt hard to acess, but limite for what it does
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I can access it quite easily on CMUD. It's built-in with a system variable for gmcp.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry frowns.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Maybe I should switch to CMUD then, if it's easier to make things with.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It'd be nice if MUSH had a prebuilt function to type "gmcp(char.base)" to return gmcp.char.base stats.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i found some functions to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not necessarily easier. It depends mainly on what you're planning on doing. Like I've said, I've worked with Zugg products for 15 years now, CMUD ever since it came out. It's no longer being actively worked on, sadly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli looks at [Outlaw] Remarto ponderingly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel feeds a technical robofish to Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: gonan do a pastebin of the stat thing with GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Hey, Etzli?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That alts adding thing, I'm looking at the else section - is it adding the alt /anyway/?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: http://pastebin.com/x072WHZv
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: What do you mean, Registry?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: else:    table.insert(alttable[uname],ualt)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Interesting, Remarto. Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: It looks like it's adding the alt even if it's already added.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The first instance is "If the player name is not already in alttable, then create a new instance for it and add the alt name. ELSE if the player name is already in the table, then just add the alt name."
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: the wiki isnt very clear with GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: OHHH, I see.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you. Silly me. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: So if the alt is already added, it won't add it a second time, would it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Nope.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: That's pretty neat. :3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not unless you spammed "alt add other testalt" 10 times, then it'd add the testalt name 10 times.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Etzli, confirming. It'd look like this? http://pastie.org/7658754
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Or would I remove the Lua variables I made for name and alt?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That /looks/ correct. Give it a couple of test runs.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Done, no printing's being done though. D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Commands: alts add nick gammon, alts find nick, alts find gammon.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, duh.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I know why now.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I feel silly. It's something right under my nose, isn't it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Yeah... give me a moment again. I'll fix it to where it should work for you.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Okay. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you so much, Etzli. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah i think he forgot the bit where it prints it out :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: RoqueWarrior Tofus it!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: http://pastebin.com/UUWVQuVT -- try this out. Paste it, then do alts add whatever blah
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: oh i see, did the function but forgot to call it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at [Outlaw] Remarto.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Yeah, it's printing now. I don't see where it went wrong though.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: We created functions, but didn't call those functions into action.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh my gosh, I see it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry slams his head on his desk in frustration.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Would removing be just as easy? Like, table.remove(altname,alt)? Or some such?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: its obviouse once you see it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry is agreeing with that [Outlaw] Remarto person again...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Removing the alt name... not that easy, hmm...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I had something weird for deleting items by name from a single table, but I had help with that.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: hmm i wonder if replacing the alt name with a bank would work?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: blank*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Here's for removing item by name from a single table: http://pastie.org/7658821
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, it'd still take a bit of work
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: yeah. tbh i dont use tables much
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: What do you use? D:
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: i dont do anything complex :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Neither do I. I've only started a week ago.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Actually, it's a bit easier than I thought. But right now, I'm extremely exhausted (1:43 am and I've been up since 4:45 am), so I won't work on it for the moment.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: I thought I was making great progress with a single table, but Etzli has shown me it's child's play.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto misses the 'v' and wabes.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, everyone, by the way. <3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli rapidly nods twice, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I think I've written the function to delete an alt's name already, but I'm heading to bed and will test tomorrow.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: May I have it anyway? If it doesn't work, I'll try to use what I've learned this far to fix it :3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: And send it to you. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Meh, it's just a skeleton, apparently. Too many issues to work with it right now. Was written off the top of my head, and incorrectly. I can already see 20 mistakes. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Oh? :O
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Whee! I lied to everyone and fixed the damned function because I can't sleep when there's something not finished. *sigh*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry points at everyone and screams, "LIES! LIIIIIIIIIIIIES!"
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Keep in mind it only works for the main alt name, so with Gammon = Nick, MUSH, you couldn't delete Gammon from Nick's alts.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ahh, I see. Would that be similar to the pastie I provided for deleting something from a table?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure I understand the question at the moment. http://pastebin.com/DeABeVzN -- just copy/paste that into your delete alt alias. It's already set up, so once you type alt delete name alt, you should be good to go.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: No, I wasn't even close.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: My mistake was I was treating the Nick like you're treating Gammon.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: How long did it take you to learn Lua, Etzli?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Still learning it.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've been working with it for a couple years now.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ahhh, I see. Was there a go-to source for you? Lua-users, right?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm self-taught, but yeah, lua-users helped me out quite a bit.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Registry noddles his head in agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But for real, I'm heading to sleep now. Night. Enjoy your new script.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: gnight etz
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Thank you, Etzli. Shall I send you something for your efforts?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Typically not required unless it's a big project. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Ahhhh, I see. :3
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though I would never turn anything. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Registry Tech: Good.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: anyone know why my mapper can't find rooms in areas that i have all the proper cexits for?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: can't find? maybe you've not mapped them, or the rooms are flagged no map. Are is it just they can't find the path to them?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: like The Archipelago of Entropy i have all portals added but can't runto any of the rooms
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: also possible they're behind a maze.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: not the case in that zone...it's just straight through
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: that being said, I need to run. o/ sorry couldn't stay and help
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: np :)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: For the unix crowd... http://xkcd.com/1168/
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: how to turn a plain lua script file into a nice normal mush plugin? is there a magic wand?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hmm, I didn't know bash is a layer on top of dash...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: ??
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's not.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how would you match train line to get each number on its own?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: very carefully =P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: <Stat>%s+\:%s+(%d)%s+(%d)%s(\-?%d)%s+(%d)%+(%d)%s+(%d)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Quick, ugly lazy-match that should work
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Cheeze saves the day!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: as usual:p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Cheez didnt account for race mods being -, nor tier mod being -
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: cheez also self-admittedly called it sloppy and quick =P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Rather, wishmod, not tier mod
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, sloppy and quick was why you were born, Frostbite, so... it's not always a good thing. *srun*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli tickles Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: There goes Fatal FrostBite giggling again, and this time he's looking towards Book of Etzli.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: has anyone ever gotten the mapper to recognize 'that is a privately owned room' and to not show it as an unmapped room? Is there a setting for that somewhere? :) (my unmapped list is silly long atm)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Probably could use the same code for "Alas, you cannot go that way."
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Though Fiendish would be the one to ask about that.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Don't there isn't is a great way - you don't get room flags unless you're actually in the room in question.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You could probably throw something in to ignore n exits in manor areas, if you really felt like it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm sorry, I'm trying to dicipher "Don't there isn't is a great way"...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: ignore the "Don't"
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: I'm uncertain how it found its way in.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: "there isn't is a great way" still... :p
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Okay, remove the 'is' as well :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That sentence was just full of fail.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Geez.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: It's like you expect me to SPEAK ENGLISH or something.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: grammar police in da house!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Oh, the inhumanity!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: what! who?  Abelinc?  Where!?!
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I love how Adobe's Flash Downloader has a "Did you know?" and the first fact it lists says, "The top 10 Facebook games use Flash." ...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: How do you link to a PDF in a word file so that the recipient can still open the pdf without that exact path on their computer?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vexthorne Tech: Or can I somehow insert the PDF into word rather than linking it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: does anyone have this channel turned on that can possibly fix a bug or help me get around it?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Just ask your question
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: bug in what?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: in the abyssal caverns at behind a cluster of seaweed when I use "nod elf" nothing happens. I have made sure I was visible, I have left the area and returned, I have recalled and returned, I closed my client and returned, and I have waited a few days (real time) and returned and it still doesnt work.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: did you do the goal? if so, you need to say yes, not nod.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ayasinda nods at a dark elf warrior.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Not a bug, you are most likely using a spellup plugin that is re-invis'ing you quicker than you can nod
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also most definitely not a tech question
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: say yes doesnt work either and I will try turning plugins off and then I will get back to you.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: just type bsp pause
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lumish Tech: I got there is no pause in aardwolf.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: got him sorted out. he had started the goal, but hadn't finished listening to the elf yet, so 'yes and nod both didn't work :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: has anyone had problems with the cmud licence just poofing? it was fine up until today and it knocked me back to a trial
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Never have had an issue.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i never have up until today either, and i dont have access to the cmud pro licence anymore (someone bought it for me as a gift)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: this is wierd...when I xrt darkLight, mapper uses Cedria portal to insanitarium and then ord of stars portal to DarkLight. Any ideas as to why?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Makala Tech: xset vidblain
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mottle Tech: yep...that worked & thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is a netgear prosafe 8-port gigabit desktop switch (gs108) any good?  An AT&T install tech came out to set up UVerse phone/internet and gave us one absolutely free.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: anyone know about rootkits?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel cries at her lack of knowledge in general.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snaebjorn whispers softly to Queen Bee Noegel.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Sure what's your ip?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel sends Snaebjorn to the technical layers of Doomland.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ymerd Tech: 127.0.0.1 ? 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: Im on phone at the moment I have my computer quarantined from the net work
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: eeps. computer aids
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Snaebjorn laughs out loud at LOL YOLO Gruagach.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: so.... if anyone would like to help.....
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: which one you got/
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Keldrath Tech: the reinstall windows rootkit
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: rkill, usb stick, malwarebytes is how i fix everything
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: spyhunter 4 says unknown rootkit 
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: like 4 different rootkit detectors and they say unidentified
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snaebjorn Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: why do i care about voice over lte technology? one of my friends is nutting so hard, i dont get how it affects me
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: because voip is so old fashioned
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: voice over lte is voip
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: he was saying it would provide hd voice
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i thought he was kidding, but no..i mean..hd voice? lolwut
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: maybe he means uncompressed?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But, typically, you would not care unless you work in the industry. Why should regular people care about the technology that implements your call?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: all audio codecs are not equal
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right. But joe average does not now and should not need to care.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: know*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: they will if their call sounds like AM radio
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but audio codecs don't depend on lte transport...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: my buddy works for verizon and he talks about it all the time.. i just like dont get why its a thing
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: the only thing i think about is how shitty the plans are going to be priced
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if he works for verizon, he talks about it because he's a sales-schlep that doesn't know what he's talking about, only what they feed him
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It's a thing for them, because new technology means they can sell new stuff.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: yah or a data engineer...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nobody in verizon's infrastructure cares
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all it means for the infrastructure is that they can overprovision again
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: the way he was explaining it, they have to change pretty much everything they are doing from today
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they don't
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: hold that thought, i'll debate you tommorrow good sir
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so either he doesn't understand, or he wasn't explaining it well
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I care, because I work in a related tech field, but I don't go around telling everyone "Have you heard the good news?" :D
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: its not like he is blogging about it, but it does come up everytime we talk
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: easier solution. get a new friend :P
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, abe, they do have to change everything in the network... but it's still the same basic principles, of course.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Except maybe the IP/MPLS Core part.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: for a very interesting definition of everything in the network...don't have to change hardware, don't have to change firmware, don't have to change much
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: they do have to change hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Eh... what?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no they don't
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: and codeex
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: alright, you're clueless..i got it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they have to use codecs, that's not really changing anything
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr rapidly nods twice at LOL YOLO Gruagach, in complete agreement.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i dont know much about it, but i know it does require hardware at cell sites, switchs and the phones themselves
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: How do you switch your network to LTE without changing hardware or firmware?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it requires hardware that is lte compatible...they already have that
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VoLTE doesn't require different hardware than their standard LTE network
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: cause verizon has LTE depolyed quite a bit
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes they'd need hardware upgrades if their network wasn'tLTE...but that's not raving over VoLTE, that's just raving over LTE
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok... sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VoLTE doesn't require hardware change
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol..10/10 troll..would read again
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: your premise was that putting voice over the lte network was a huge overhaul, that simply isn't the case
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: i guess the lte switches need an upgrade to handle those 'voice' packets
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: no big deal guys, going from analog to digital, same gear
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's been digital for decades...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: No, it's switching from 3G to LTE for voice.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: It is a big deal, for whoever has to implement it. For customers, it should not make a big diff.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: not decades.. some cell companies still run analog
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: standard analog/POTS conversations have been digital between stations in most places since the 80s
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i dont think you got my anology
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: wait.. i lied, looks like analog was actually phased out in 2008
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the 8khz digital backbone is what limited modems
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: I think you mean the 64k E0 or 56k T0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I don't
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, you do.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, I don't.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol'd
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, then you are wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, different technology for different purpose
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Specifying a digital connection in khz is wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a sampling, not a connection...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and formed the core of why people were wrong to talk about their modems in "baud" rather than "bps"
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: What does modem sampling have to do with "digital backbone"?
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the digital backbone is what dictated modem sampling
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes, the T0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: With 8khz sampling, you can get any speed you like. That's not the limit. The limit is the D0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: T0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with 8khz sampling, you can get any speed you like within the confines of the resolution of said sampling...you can't get any speed you like
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Right, because of the limit of the T0/E0.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: In either case, one of you is wrong, and the other not. Or you're both wrong. In the end, not sure anyone else really cares. *srun*
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rather, we're both going at it from a different angle in a chicken-and-egg scenario
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: maybe you'd rather theyhave this convo on barter??
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: We really need an e-peen channel.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: you're on it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: /quest
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: since y'all care, 13 QPs +tier +mccp +2pracs :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: go abelinc go
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Nobody pointed out that the correct term is DS0, not T0, so I guess I'll have to do that myself :D
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wasn't worth pointing out, when it wasn't the limiting factor anyway ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Ok.... try increasing your sampling rate to increase your modem speed, and see how that works for you.l
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it'd work fine, if I were allowed to change it
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the DS0 doesn't determine the sampling rate, however
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: You could not get above a DS0 speed, no matter which sampling you used. That was my point.
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true, but that gets a bit more complicated...
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: bonding doesn't count
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: even without bonding
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i think less than 2 people know what you guys are talking about..
T3/r7/2013-04-19.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: DS0 isn't the only signal carrier type...DS0 only determines linespeed, not final payload, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Phuriee Tech: Is there a way to configure what channels display in what window?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: he's not on, but for channel history completeness, to configure which channels show in which windows, right-click the comm window, go to "customize channels" to control the list of which channels show in comm window...then right-click and go to "echo channels in main window" -> "custom echo list" to control the list of channels which show in the main output
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i have a databse inside of a variable in lua, how do i add something to it? i tried var["key"]["key2"]=2 and it did not work
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: .push()?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I got tossed off 3 times says memory is full and the screen turns red
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: red? cool
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: is there some kind of  think in mush that stores memory that i cab enpty 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: uhm.. you mean a cache?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: can you take a photo of your screen turning red?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I guess what ever i might need to empty to stop that
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what kind of computer is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: probably there is additional info: buy code and enter it to increase avail memory
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: Ok seem to be moving ok now I will have to wait til it hapens again to get a shot of it
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: in the meantime, what kind of computer is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: emachine
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: what version of windows?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: xp
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: how much RAM?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: maybe it is some kind of supervisor, and not RAM but some kind of flash
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Trachx: you are not being helpful
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: 512 mb if i am reading it right
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm. 512 is a little low these days, but it could be ok for XP if you run a clean system
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: wow 512mb is a monster
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: i can search online ok
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli peers intently at RoqueWarrior.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: only play  muds on it 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not a lot you can do with 512mb these days. Can barely use browsers anymore.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I can search the bet just fine
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: im on 3gig and its barely cutting it i want to boost to 8gig
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: net
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: did the red screen look like this? http://i.imgur.com/OEGbM4e.png
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: And 512 is fine for XP. When XP came out 256 was normal.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: no 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm talking more about browsers with all their add-ons now and whatnot.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that's the only kind of red screen I know of
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: it says something to the affect out of memory 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I need to know the exact words
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Like right now, Chrome is using 612mb, with the browser alone using 203.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: a smart computer will use whatever is available
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: leaving RAM unused is stupid
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Good point.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: it has not happend now so I willl wait and see and copy it if it happens again
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: my computer is stupid and im super stupid we clash like titans
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I believe one of those things
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: I use firefox to browse seems to work good
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: My wager is that the thing Fiendish doesn't believe is that your computer is stupid. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Bricen: ok, copy the exact message and try to take a photo of the red
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: believe what you wants its a free world
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not according to North Korea.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bricen Tech: Ok thanks maybe it was some odd blip
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: its their right to believe as they wish
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it's bob's right to make bill believe as joe wishes
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I wish I had a spellup2 wish
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: as a t0 that isnt the highest priroity lolz
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: you right.. I need to get nodirt first
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get nohunger
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RoqueWarrior Tech: i wish i had beer
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: how often you get dirted?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: spellup2 definitely worth it
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: ask your mom how often i get dirty
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: by that logic getting nohunger is best because you get hungry all the time
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: your right - I should get popularity
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: actually the logic is spellup2 saves you a lot of time over the long haul
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: but whatever.. I need to go ask my mom about Gruagach's level of dirtiness
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: everyone better ask
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: eh, everyone better ask MY mom, or their own moms?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I don't have to ask, that's what showers are for.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: I feel dirty just reading tech
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: keep reading, we dont byte
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: but we may nibble a bit
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there used to be an old apple magazine called nibble.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: if I have lua statement like this: table.sort(list, function(a,b) return a.area<b.area end)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: can I use if in return part?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, I want to test whether a and b are not null
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean something like that: table.sort(list, function(a,b) return (if (a ~=  nil and b ~=  nil) then a.area<b.area else false) end)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: You want the if outside of the return.  Like if a ~= nil and b ~= nil then return <whatever> else return <whatever> end
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Though if you're going to do something that takes more than one statement, seriously put it in a new function.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: thanks! idea with new function was the right one :)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you don't actually need if for that
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: lua is pretty clever with and/or
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can do, for example, return ((a ~= nli and b~= nil) and (a.area<b.area) or false)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: that is quite similar to perls one liners
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege mourns as the sacred trust in helers goes flying out the window
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mischan
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so many conditions makes such statements harder for me to find what it does
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: would be cool if mush window could be made transparent. to watch the music videos.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: don't feel like taking on the risk of the minimize button?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Who the hell minimizes stuff?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: never
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: just move them over to your third display
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: i have a 7 year old 15"lg:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: makes a good third display =p
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: the green dead pixel has healed. it took 3 years
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: wow, it regenerated!
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: type \\\Transparency (-1, 127)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: (be warned
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: ! ! ! ! ! thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: see http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=7794#48
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: \\\Transparency (-1, 255) will get you back
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: boockmarked:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: book*
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: its so cool. must clean the desktop now:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: this is funny. opera doesn't have a hint how to get the controls back. any hotkeys for opening the options there?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: only 2 scroll bars now. nothing else..
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: this is incredible. when you switch off all the toolbars in opera.. you cannot get them back. help doesn't help either:)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Snooky Tech: Tech looks like ftalk
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try alt-f11, hwua
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: it's ctrl-f12 but even that doesn't work... so stupid
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: oh. worked
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Drakoth Tech: why does helium make your voice high?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Because sound waves move through it faster than normal air.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Which shifts the amplitude up when it crosses the helium/air barrier.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: Err frequency, not amplitude
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: wouldn't it just shift back down once it got out of the helium?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: It's the density difference that causes the frequency shift.  As the sound slows down hitting the air, the waves compress, shifting the frequency up.  Sorta like the leading edge of a doppler wave.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: is someone watching big bang theory??
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Arnica Tech: Always
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: why ask in tech?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's a show dedicated to nerds.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: soneone asked about helium.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: isn't that a city on mars?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: and that episode is on right now.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: So why are we talking about it on tech?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: nerds.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: not sure science should be discussed on tech, whatever
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: computer science.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: dont think helium falls into computer science :)
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It goes into chemistry science. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: so that would be the drugs channel
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: can i bind a plugin to a keystroke so whenver i want to use that plugin, i only have to hit a button to enable or disable it at my whim?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeys
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes*
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli couldn't tell if Abelinc meant eyes or yes.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: how do i do it, Abelinc?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but few plugins would make sense to enable/disable like that
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can show/hide most plugins using the plugins built-in commands to get them out of your way
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i know, i want to know what to do for the 1st step to bind it to a macro
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: binding the plugin to the macro isn't what you should be doing...
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should be binding an alias to a macro, where that alias is just part of the plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you do that by going to game -> configure -> macros
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: and in the alias box, what command do i type to alias the plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you shouldn't alias a plugin...
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: but u just said to bind an alias to a macro where alias is the plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should explain what you really want to do, because what you're asking for shouldn't be done...it's trivially-easy to do, but there's no reason to ever do it
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No, he said the alias is PART of the plugin.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what are you trying to turn on or off
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that thing should be providing the way to turn its effect on/off, without enabling/disabling the plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: winkle mapper entender 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: what do you think turning it off does?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i just want to turn it off for my own reason
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are no reasons
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't type xrt
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: instead of having to click with mouse and go to plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's no reason to click with mouse, though
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that plugin has no gui, if you don't want to use it, then don't type its commands
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: mouse clicking so 1999
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: never mind that, just teach me so i can do others also in future, just teach me the steps pls
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it doesn't do anything if you're not typing its commands
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: hot keys ftw
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: again, it's not something that you should ever do
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: did I mention ever?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: but it can be done?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yup, one liner
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: so what do i type in alias box?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you go to help, and search for what you think you're looking for
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: u let me figure whether it is necessary or not on my part
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: damn
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: y cant u show me what to type?
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ask the person who gave you the bot what the command is to turn it on/off
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: i aready tell u its winkle mapper entender
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rikitiki Takihisis grins evilly at you.  Hmmm.  Better keep your distance. 
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Why are you being so secretive about your intentions? There's really only one "reason" I could think of to request that kind of thing.
T3/r7/2013-04-20.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and I've already told you that turning that off temporarily serves no purpose
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm glad that last conversation went well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: okay so if I wang to set up an alias in mush which has aliases within it.. how do I get those aliases to trigger correctly?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: set it to execute rather than world
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I have alias with match: match="^xmsan\ ?(?<number>[0-9]+)?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: now I wonder, why it is the same as: match="^xmsa\ ?(?<number>[0-9]+)?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean, I've thought that "\ " means space
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, first alias should fire only in case of writing "xmsan" and second "xmsa", but
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but if both have same sequence number (sequence="85") then shorter one is fired first
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, when I type: xmsan 20 then in fact it it executed as xmsa 20
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, have I defined "\ " as space or it has some other different meaning ?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: with gmcp, is it possible to get triggers to work off it with out turning them into plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you need first plugin to interpret GMCP data
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: so do i have to trigger off an onpluginbroadcast?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes, I mean, you will get GMCP data in onpluginbroadcast (if you subscribed to it)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: then you can either do something with it just right now or emit it to cause other action
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: but what are you trying to achieve? maybe there is ready solution or similar one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Remarto Tech: well ive tried using the bast gmcp quest broadcast plugin, but i cannot seem to get the quest_info section back to a table that i can use
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you should probably ask Bast on his plugins
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: still, there is easily available quest info from GMCP data
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jbking Tech: anyone useing htc phone with aardwolf app if so i need to know brake limt so text fits nicely ? thnx
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: in mushclient is there an option to always display commands sent to the mud by plugins?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, but you can have Aard always tell you what it thinks you've sent
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Yes, THAT Neeper Tech: that'll do..
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "echocommands" to have aard report on everything it sees coming from you
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: does mush provide a way of determining when the last user-initiated event occurred? (e.g. hit a macro key or entered a command but not commands sent due to triggers/timers)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: which function? not seeing in help file
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: check out my autoreply plugin ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean it allows to implement !sell spellup and !buy spellup ?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: automated trader could sometimes be useful, but seems more like botting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is illegal botting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there's not a direct function like my tinyfugue's idle()...but you can get the idle time by having a variable that is updated with currenttime whenever you type something
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: it seems for me that is it mainly useful for auto AFK setting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: seeing that.. the override to oncommand updates the time
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: well, onplugincommand..
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: thanks.. easy enough starting place
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: question!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: in the market for a new laptop... macbook vs. PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: What do you do with it, really depends on usage.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Pretty sure people would prefer you use sticks and stones to communicate rather than get a new laptop.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: office productivity, netflix, photos, etc.  typical home use w/ some work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is macbook flash-based faster than whatever PC uses?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: if Macbook is in the price range you're shopping for, they're good hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If you like burning money, buy a Mac, if you want to save some and have more freedom, a windows PC.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: if you want something difference go linux
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: linux is an OS, which would work on any of the above laptops...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: just like chromium is an OS.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: OS2
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my MUD client runs natively on OS/2!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: os2 was stable.... in it's day good
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i went to the apple store.  it says they used flash-based architecture whatever that means.  i've never seen that on a pc-based spec sheet.  is there a speed advantage there?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's available on both Macs and wintel hardware
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: looks like standard on macs.  but is it faster than typical PC?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: is this a reference to ssd?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: no, I don't think so zet
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's what people call SSD, solid-state hard drive
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i highly recommend ssd for laptops
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc, are you saying this flash-based stuff just means ssd?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's faster read speed than spinning hard drives, and isn't subject to a head crash if there's G forces
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: SSD is flash
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: spinning discs ive always had to change, could be the angle or something
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: SSD = Godly storage
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just much smaller capacity
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why do some of these laptops on newegg have both HDD and SSD?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: they come in sizes big enough to accommodate most needs for laptop use.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can get multiple hard drives in some laptop configurations
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i recommend external hd
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: so they can put one ssd and one hdd
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: for extra space
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: SDD is probably more expensive per GB, so the important stuff is on the SDD, and other stuff is on the HDD
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: but internal ssd, so you can travel w/out worry
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: other stuff being things like pictures?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: or games
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, stuff that's not being read/written all the time.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you can install stuff to it, just needs to be connected for those apps to work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: and the connection (usb?) doesn't bottleneck the speed?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: where would aardmush go?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ive never had a laptop hard drive crash due to g forces but im usually careful with it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: some ports are fast enough for apps that are infrequently used
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aardmush is portable, it can go anywhere ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i think you can even do hot swappable w laptops
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont see robustness as much of an advantage, speed and low noise would be pros but wearing out is a con
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: its not just drops, for me it was tilt, pitch, or yaw? i forget the terms
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: another con is the higher cost per gig
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: current crop of non-bottom-end are pretty much past the wearing out issue, but cost can be a big con
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: anyways surfaces that are not level
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: humbler, you killed a laptop harddrive?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: one?! try three in 2 years
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: my house living room floor had a slight slope
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird, I use my laptop with spinning hdd at all angles no problem
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: thats what i think it was
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: may only be with minor angles, i used a flat table, on a slopped floor
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right now I'm in bed with it on my lap, I'll carry it around by the corner, put my legs up in a teepee with it that way, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: The hard drive is about the only thing that does still work well on mine.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i way have just been jinxed, the apple store geniuses were surprised too
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Probably just bad luck Humbler
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: fan is pretty much dead, wifi is dead, hinges are cracked...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I have a can of compressed air I use to kickstart the fan
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: hehe for me hdd and charge ports always go firsts
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: whenever I get a fan error
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: also crappy wiring in here
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: budget not really an issue.  My wife is leaning Mac but I've only ever used PC
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: if you get laptop, for the love of tod, get sdd
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you love tod dont you?!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: do you mean zod from superman?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Tod sucks.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: yes I want a SSD.  But are these standard on all macbooks?  (air vs. pro?)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: not standard, you have to customize
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: tbh, i prefer a tablet for the uses you described
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: but i figure you may want the flexibility to game without dealing with a tablet version of linux
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what annoys me about the bulk of laptops today is 1366x768 - that 768 is just too low
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: zet what do you mean
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it sounds like you want a desktop replacement rather than a portable
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Laptop = limited pixel count
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: so many laptops have a low vertical screen resolution, pretty sure macs are not like that
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: if you only need netflix, office, and webbrowsing/email, you can do a tablet like the adam or ztab and get all of that on it from the company
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: yeah, but you pay a premium
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: apparently a mistake was found in the spreadsheet that formed part of an important economist study into debt-laden governments, a study used as justification by many governments for imposing austerity
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: nate silver wrote that up, iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: mischan tiger?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: economists have been saying for ages that that study was wrong though...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: vaguely technical related ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the study was largely irrelevent, but that's not an argument for this channel
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i am pretty trusting of mr. silver's abilities
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: lol tiger you brought it kp
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: humbler, our main issue w/ the tablet is peripherals.  I'm a keyboard junkie and hate getting my oily fingers on the screen
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sonshi Tech: coding error notwithstanding, the conclusions reached didn't make any sense, and other economists could not replicate the results. When you come up with odd results no one can replicate... bad idea to base any important policy off it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: tigernuts, it changed their findings from -.1% shrink to .2% growth.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: the been claim 2.2, but ok
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: that's the difference from the spreadsheet error alone.  there are other methodological issues that can get up to the 2.2%
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: does anyone hav experience using the MS office suite on macbooks?  Wondering if anyone has negative experiences w/ it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my favorite shortcut in the world is alt-d in IE.  Annoyed that it's not similar on the macbooks in the store.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what does alt d do in ie?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: is alt+d the "minimize all windows with porn in them" function?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: havent used ie in over 10 years
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: brings you right to the address bar
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but it's a program-specific one, not an OS-specific one...it doesn't work in other browsers on Windows either...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: my wife would like to know if macbooks are essentially immune from porn-site viruses?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I thought it worked in chrome as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vost goes, "SUUUUUUUURE...."
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, at least not in the chrome I'm using
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: they are not kojiro
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: tell you wife to use protection
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what is the chrome shortcut?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: tell her to go to high quality porn sites and she wont have a problem.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it does work in FF tho
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: even low quality news sites have problems.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: song lyric websites are pretty thick with the viruses as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Just play flash games with out of data adobe flash.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: when aaple does their OS iteration, like the one coming up in June supposedly, do you get it free or have to buy it?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: most likely buy it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: uninstall java and you're much safer
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: if I get a SSD in the laptop, is it extra important to get more RAM to help w/ temp storage?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but you want enough RAM that you should never be swapping anyway...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 4 is ok and you really don't need more than 8 on a high-end pc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: 1 think no one has said yet.. dont use HDD defraggers on an SSD.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you don't need to use defraggers with a regular hdd either
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: i haven't defragged a hard drive since 1998
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: thats amaizng you knew the exact year you last defragged.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: i refuse to believe you're that old
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: I know the exact year that I last defragged a hard disk too...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: anyway, w7 defrags automagically and it's no problem with ssd's
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If he uses SSD's then he would be accurate in doing so but I doubt he does.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: for the basic stuff i talked about earlier, do you think there would be a noticeable difference between macbook pro and air?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: definitely. air is much lighter
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it also looks different
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Is that a serious question?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: other than form factor, yes a serious question
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: you could even say it's thinner
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: MBP is much more powerful.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Google the specs.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler is agreeing with that Eutychus person again...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Frolo Tech: yes, but can you notice the difference in the power if you just use word and internet?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I see the specs difference.  but all specs run minesweeper the same.  There is no point paying the apple price premium for specs making marginal or no difference in her expected use.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you can always notice the difference in word, its a memory hog
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: If you buy a MBP for netflix and word, you wasted your money.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: what about excel?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Depends, excel probably uses quite a bit more processing power and ram. Depends on how complex your spreadsheets are.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: how do you find out the room id number?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: GMCP
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: depends on your client
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no, humbler
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper thisroom or hover over the room in MUSHclient
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: im using mudlet. i just found a mapper.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: just still confused on how to use it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: 4chan and reddit id'd pretty much everyone with a backpack which isn't much use
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: damn, mis again
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: screw this, now i'm really going to bed
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you'd use a GMCP trigger to tell the mapper the info
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tbh, mudlet docs are quite useless, I'd recommend bailing on it and just using Aard MUSHclient package which will be better than anything you'd put together in Mudlet
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: i have an old mac. i cant use wine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: ive tried everything to get a client to work. this is the only one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VirtualPC instead of Wine ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: what is that?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler gasps as he realizes what MightyChick did.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it was a product by Connectix, which was later purchased by Microsoft to form the core of Microsoft's VirtualServer
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VPC existed to let old Macs run Windows
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: so googling it would work?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: virtual pc is an emulator to run a different os withn an os
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: ive been playing aard for a year. 9 months were on a phone. im jsut happy as can be to be not on my phone
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: but thank you. im going to see what i can do with the virtualpc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, it's been about 8 years since a Mac was made that doesn't run Wine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: yeah i got an old mac from the highschool when they were ridding them for free
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: believe its a 2006
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i respect that, frugal
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2005
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: 2005 should run wine o_O
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2005 was the G5
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: 2000 should run wine?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: need Intel for Wine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: well thanks again. ill keep searching :)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: didnt they have a way to run wine on ppc?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wine doesn't emulate the processor, just syscalls, so you need a processor emulator to cross processor families
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, that's what SoftWindows and VirtualPC were for
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: is there free software that would let me remote into and access my home PC from a laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes kojiro
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: what is it called?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are dozens of them
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: remote desktop?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Windows had remote desktop built-in
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: can use VNC, can use logmein, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler seems to think you have the right idea.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: logmein ftw!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: VNC, logmein and all the similar sites are cross-platform
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: do i need any hardware other than my home pc and my laptop and an internet connection to both?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: i like teamviewer..but its all basic
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: teamviewer is based on VNC, but is similar to logmein in that it's more efficient than stock and uses their site as a broker to access through anything
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nope, you don't need anything extra to get them to work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with things like teamviewer and logmein, the client that you run on the computers connects to their website and registers itself there...that means you don't have to muck about with router/firewall settingsto get to it from the Internet-at-large
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with remote desktop and basic VNC, you'd need to configure your router to send all connections to your public IP at port xxx to the desktop
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Kashra Tech: yeah but getting someone to type logmein123.com is a bitch sometimes T_T
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't need them to type it, run the client there f/t
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: abelinc, would you recommend one vs. the other for a "casual" user who has some PC and some AAPL products but would like to be able to remote from either to either?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: what are you trying to do? sounds like you want dropbox or google drive
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: Grua, let's say I want to access a program like Bloomberg on my home PC w/o installing it on a laptop
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I like logmein (heh, my favorite is netsupportmanager, but that's commercial overkill)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I prefer teamviewer. So nice. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}LOL YOLO Gruagach Tech: it was easy enough for my mom to set up.. so its very basic lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, all I do is log in (or create account), click "add computer", and click "next" or "OK" a couple times
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: thanks all for the tech help.  I'm going to buy her a macbook air as an experiment
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: 8 GB of ram, SSD.  any other thoughts/input on this?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: I've never been a fan of paying the apple premium vs. alternatives, but I think she secretly really wants it vs. a PC
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and how much money is your wife's happiness worth }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: since we are living in NYC/state solely for her happiness, a LOT
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: can't wait to move to puerto rico and pay zero capital gains taxes until 2035
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: hopefully they aren't made the 51st state
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rurouni Kinjin Tech: should become a state just after you move there, that's the way things work
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}MightyChick Tech: abelinc do you know where i can find an old version of the virtualpc? the virtualpc7 wont run on my system
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Hrm.  okay, so I've got a problem.  I had been able to connect from work up until a week ago when they did some work on the network.  Now I connect successfully (logs me out on my phone, etc.), but I see no output on my client.  Telnet appears to hang as well.  Thoughts?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: are you aware of what they were doing?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Shameful Dugrant Tech: probably got a firewall blocking the traffic inbound.  You could try the other ports and see if any of them transmit.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: I have no specifics of what they did, and I've tried 23, 4000, 4010, 4444, and 7777
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: ssh, as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: K, well, if anyone has any other thoughts, let me know.  Thanks.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: ssh won't work because aardwolf doesn't accept ssh connections
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Ah, k
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not sure why you'd be able to get a connection through but then hang, though
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Right, seemed odd to me as well
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Unless, as Dugrant suggested, they only blocked incoming traffic.  I don't think telnet requires any complicated handshaking, but regardless, my client probably sends the username and password when the connection is established, regardless of whether it has seen the prompts
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: all TCP requires 2-way handshake
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: K, fair enough.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: Guess I'll try to wrap my brain around blowtorch again
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, if it's logging you out of the phone's connection to Aard, then you're connected to Aard
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they could have a triggered block that only cuts off a connection after validating its inacceptability via deep packet inspection
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: hello boys. got me a problem with mapper.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: need to be more specific
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite nods at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I'm getting there, lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: symptoms, causes, diagnostics, go
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: well, I did the ultimate evil.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i put planes portal into mapper
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: baaaaad idea
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I have mine in it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you should have the planes portal in it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: then, i deleted it using the mapper delete portal <command>
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I have a mapper question - when I 'mapper find <common room>', the mapper locks up aardmush for up to 7 minutes while it tries to find paths to everywhere.  When I use 'mapper list <common room>', I often get no results at all... what direction to I turn to fix this issue?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: instead of the index #
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: use mapper area when your in the area... mapper find takes too long. There's a way to reduce the depth of the search but I forget the command.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mapper quicklist on
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh wait
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: thing is, mapper still uses the planes portal, and I can't change anything about it, cause the alias is gone
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong answer
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT IT
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: right
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: mapper quicklist!  sounds brilliant... BTW, I only use the 'find' and 'list' options when I have a room name CP, and duckbat is broken.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper delete portals? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Outlaw] Remarto strongly suggests you all rtfm.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: quicklist I think won't fix you, vonliege, sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you could change the pathlength, no?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: please describe the problem again, because it's not clear to me
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: what if i just re put the alias back into mapper, and then deleted the portal by id #? think that would help?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: nobody knows what you are talking about, roninleader
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: if the problem you have is that a list of results takes too long to show because it is pathfinding all of them up front, then quicklist is the answer for you
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you deleted some other portal accidentally, and didn't touch the planes one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that won't fix empty lists, obviously
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the issue:  When I am looking for a room (area unknow), and it is a common room name (like "stairs"), the mapper will go looking for it, but will send aardmush into a state of "not responding" for up to seven minutes... I try to use "list" since this doesn't look for paths... just room names.  but I often do not get any returns from "list"
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: the planes portal is no longer in the portal list
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Fiend, were you saying there's no way to change the depth of pathfinding?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm not saying that. I just don't think it's a good idea
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: even more, i deleted the alias from mush
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you deleted what alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ronin: it is, you're just not seeing it...if the mapper is still using the portal
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: oh wait, scratch that last part
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ok abe, ill check again
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: stand down on my issue, all.. it's not fair that I introduced another issue while one was still outstanding.. I will re-engage later
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Vonliege: enable quicklist mode to solve the freeze
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: TY
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the mapper pathfinds all results up front to sort them by distance, but obviously it doesn't need to do that
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I could probably set quicklist by default...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can use "mapper where 29364" to see what the mapper will try to do to reach there
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the planes portal landing room
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: odds are you have the portal duplicated in a cexit from someplace
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: I'm think that might be it vakieh
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Try doing the speedwalk from some random area, and see if it runs you through recall or somewhere consistent along the way
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't think of why a room would show up with find and not with list, though
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: give me an example
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: i cant go to fantasy fields or fractured lands without going through the planes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: update:  mapper is finding rooms much better now.  Status:  Resolved.  Thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you can, it's just a shorter path
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: btw abe, Room 29364 not found
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Never really understood the relationship between room number in mapper and mudside id personally... sometimes they match up between people, other times not
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: OK, so mapper where 17033 (fractured) uses the planes portal, but mapper where 29364 doesn't?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: ha! there it is. i have an alias set for fractured lands its self, and that uses the planes portal
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: vakieh, they always match up, other than for clanrooms
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Abstraction via variables, aliases, THEN mapper is the best way to avoid these issues
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the only reason they don't match up for clanrooms is because those are nomap, so the MUD doesn't send the number
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there are a couple random other rooms as well, but extremely few
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Think it probably had to do with reboots shifting things, but not that big an issue
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: alright gang... bring me up to speed with the mapper. Do you have to make aliases to the start of every area to use the mapper?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Have to? No. Recommended to? sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: looking for best practices... Ready GO!!!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: mapper find <room you want>, mapper goto <that room>
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wreck-It Roninleader Tech: weeha!! thanks guys! it was not the planes portal alias that was giving me the problem, but an alias i forgot for fractured lands
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: mapper find locks up Aard for a minute :(
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You raise your eyebrow at Fatal FrostBite.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You using a Commodore 64 to mud?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite claps at Wreck-It Roninleader's performance.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RedRain Tech: a minute?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, 1 min for frostbite, 7 mins for vonliege...10 seconds for Fiendish? ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I may be exagerating but still... it locks up. I don't like that :(
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: was interesting to see that mudlet's mapper uses A* for its pathfinding
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Even on my cheap as crap lappy and with the search limit increased to 200 with 300 room depth I can still get 200 rooms listed by mapper find in under 1 second
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: 2 practices...(1) yes, make an alias per area that's just "mapper goto <what you consider room 1>"...(2) use winkle's mapper extender, which gives you an "xset" command for room 1, and xrt/xrunto to use those with areanames
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't remember what my mapper uses, but I make pretty clever use of the database
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I'll look into that, Thanks Abe :) And I do enjoy the mapper Fiend =P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I kind of want to pull the entire DB into RAM, but people already piss and moan about memory usage
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh yeah, you'd get all sorts of memleak "bug reports" doing that
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: so currently I only keep things in ram after they get accessed instead of all up front. it's a little game I play where I hide the cost until later
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Delayed ingratification :P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: people want this to magically be perfect in all cases. they either complain that disk IO is too slow or that ram use is too high
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I'd suggest making it a toggle, so those who have the memory could turn it on, but I'm sure that would open up an entirely different set of issues to deal with.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Pedwiddle Tech: In blowtorch, can you nest aliases?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes ped
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: what's blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: android client
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: oic!
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: anyone have a fav client on iOs devices?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: my favorite is iSSH, but my needs/desires are different ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite looks your way then covers his mouth, trying to muffle his giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't personally care for using a MUD client on non-laptop mobile devices if you also play from computer...rather use the mobile device to access the computer's real client
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that way you're not duplicating environments in multiple client setups
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but my client makes that much easier than other clients
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger crosses his arms and nods sagely to you.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was thinking of getting a remote client for iOs but that raises another question... Which one? Heard good things about splashtop or whatever it is.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is there an iOS RDP client?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: iSSH is telnet, ssh, VNC, RDP and X11r7 in one
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: with the ability to tunnel the VNC, RDP and X11 through ssh
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: also clients for normal MacOS remote, standalone RDP, VNC and the usual logmein, teamviewer, etc sites
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: weird thing, logmein's client for IOS is free...for android it's $30, so backwards ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i would like to escape an apostrophe in much so it doesnt complain about an apostrophe
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: In what context, Humbler?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: the problem is that i want to say what's up doc to the guard and put it in my alias so i dont have to retype it each time
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: just say it, or just put it into the alias
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: MUSHclient doesn't care when I do it
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: without apostrophe?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: MUDside aliases don't like apostrophes. :(
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: thats what i meant etzli, how do i escape the apostrophe?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not MUSH complaining, that's Aard
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you're wrong
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: i apologize, i misunderstood the output
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: No clue, Humbler.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alias test heasfasdf'asfd as'fdasdf asdfad -> test                :  heasfasdf'asfd as'fdasdf asdfad
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: is there a workaround?
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: they work just fine
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Fiendish: Try doing it with one apostrophe.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not odd number, fiend
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you matched your apostrophes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You'll get a mismatched quote error.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: try "alias dofoo say what's up doc"
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: then you'll see what he's getting
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I've written a bug report on it before.
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: this will work fine though: alias dofoo 'what's up doc
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: do this...
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the ' is a MUDwide alias for say, so it matches the apostrophes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli once tried "alias setwanted echo Don't waste your tps on"
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: or of course the better answer is to do it in MUSH
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler thanks you heartily. 
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: you can also put ; in front of the second '
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: you sir are a genius
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: game -> configure -> aliases, add, put what you want to type in the top skinny field, put say what's up doc in the big field
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: alias dofoo say what's up doc;'lol
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: though you'll want to double the ; as ;; in mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, interesting hack workaround :P
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: abel's solution is best, it ommit's say and matches quotes
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: only because you want to start with say
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: mine works more generically
T3/r7/2013-04-21.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nod, for any non-say alias mine wouldn't work
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Is there a way to remove an exit permenantly from the mapper? So like if I exit the room and come back again, the exit is still gone?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: you mean a normal exit or a custom one?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: A normal exit, custom exits are not added automatically anyways. :)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Don't think so. If you learn of a way please let me know. Been looking for it myself for a long time.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: you can always level lock that exit so mapper won't take that pathway, it's what i do.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: aardmush:  is there a way to sub-catagorize aliases?  in folders, maybe?  I'm getting so many aliases, I can't keep track of 'em all
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: there is a category option
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: or group
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: searching.....
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks like "tree view" is the first step... now trying to figure out how to move them around, and add catagories to the tree
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in the alias itself you can change "group" name
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: think that will add different groups to tree
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ahhhh... thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: not exactly a drag-and-drop operation, but it's getting the job done
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah good, I was just guessing
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: hi guys
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: using muschclient how would i set a alias to look through X amount of differnt packs
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rondel Tech: just list them off in it or is there a way to cycle it through?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}FirstBlade Gladacus Tech: how would you do brackets in brackets,eg a getvariable within a execute?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Anyone ever had the linux dropbox client not let them log in?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: stop the daemone and restart, it'll work
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't remember it it's just called dropbox or what, but it'll be in your init.d
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Heh, too many sign in attmpts atm
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I got mad and hit enter a few times...
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Unfriendly Jaenelle snickers softly.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Go to the web browser and try to login, you might need to verify non-bot
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Or check your email, they might've sent you something
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I thought I had actually forgotten my password the first time so I reset it. I wonder if that is affecting it.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yeah, they set you up a temp pw good for 24 hours, but it lcoks your old one
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Nothing in email. What are they gonna do with this temp pw?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: They didn't email you when you clicked reset password?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: The first time
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: That was before I locked myself out
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Click the link in that email :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: may still work
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: I know I asked this earlier today, but that was like 8-12 hours ago... :P Is there a way to permenantly delete an exit from a room and keep it from coming back again next time I enter the room?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ok a reset let me in on the web
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, not really
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Jaenelle did you have a problem with the suggested response of level locking it > 201 ?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: (using the mushclient mapper thingie)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I just lock the exit
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Ixle, I just want it to not show up at all. It isn't an exit I'd enter. I'm trying to neaten up my manor area maps. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Ah a visual thing then, ok.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: set the level to 999, then the mapper will never use it, but it will still show up though. Visually, there's no cleaning it :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: and I've got 933 unmapped exits in estates 2000 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: I could tell you how to do it in TinTin
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Helperful Cheezburger snickers with Ixle about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Sure, in my tt+= you just do noexit n, and it'll refuse to add a north exit from that room until i do rexit n
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Cheezburger, that's exactly what I want to do, but with the aard mapper mush thingie. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I could create a hack for it i'm sure, but I'd ask Fiendish and see if he has plans to incorporate something like that first
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: Cheezburger: *nods* If I catch him online and remember, I will. :) Meanwhile my maps are a mess and I'm feeling too lazy to actually attempt to code anything myself. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ixle Tech: Well finally got logged in to dropbox client but the nautilus integration doesn't seem to be working
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: can the midpssh also use mccp?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: anyone?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: ok thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's a telnet/ssh client, not a MUD client, so it doesn't know about the MUD-specific mccp...if you had access to a computer, you could use midpssh to connect to the computer which can proxy the mccp
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bujaki Tech: okeydokey
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: is it possible to make an afk trigger on blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't think that is what a blowtorch is for
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: if you can make normal triggers it should be possible
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: yep, use "Your eyes glaze over, and you appear to be somewhere else." and then make the action whatever you want.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: What can't a blowtorch solve??
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: making ice cream.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: touche, hanslanda
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: blowtorch also has trouble with "happy endings".
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: but i think i phrased that wrong,is it possible to make a trigger that responds to a tell?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: I don't see why you couldn't use a blowtorch to make ice-cream
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: yes. But not a 100% safe one
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: so long as you don't care what that tell message is, sure.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Day the Nightbird peers intently at GraySong Gregor.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Definitely don't see why it would have trouble with happy endings...
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead stares at the sky.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: heat is energy
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: who's gonna let you get to home plate wielding a blowtorch?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: who's gonna stop me?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: ok i just read the info for triggers on that link and i don't know how any of the regex triggers work(i'm guessing thats what i need for what i want to do)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what do you want to do?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: if i enable the trigger i want it to reply with something like 'Nightbird is afk'
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: reply to tells*
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: isn't it better to just set afk flag then?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: afk flag doesn't prevent you from disconnection.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: a reply trigger for tells neither
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it'll reset the timer, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: only if you actually get tells. I don't think you want to set an autreply just to prevent disconnection. You can set a disconnection trigger for that
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Your eyes glaze over
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: best keep-alive text to trigger off of
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: it would be easier to set afk,but i'm trying to learn about triggers..figured i'd start with something simple(or so i thought)
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: doesn't it say how to on the bottom of the page?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: yes,but i didn't really understand it
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: A regex trigger with the pattern "^(.+) has sent you a tell.$" will match text like "Foobar has sent you a tell."     What did you not understand?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: well i tried using that for the trigger and its not working
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: so i figure i must've misunderstood it
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: two things...(1) you want a much smarter autoreply trigger than that, otherwise you can get into a race condition with someone else's autoreply...(2) turn on tell tags and trigger on the tag
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: by the (1), think of if you and someone else both had the type of autoreply trigger you're describing, and one of you sends a tell to the other...he's autoreply, you'd autoreply to his autoreply, he's autoreply to your autoreply to his autoreply, etc until you're both nochanned
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: agree. would be much wiser
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Day the Nightbird Tech: abelinc,i triggered it on the tag,but then when i send a tell it starts spamming the reply to me,any idea why?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Anyone ever use MPR121 breakouts?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: anyone here savvy with Prolog ?
T3/r7/2013-04-22.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I was in college
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: Many people using tintin here?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: type "clients"
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: a couple dozen, was looking for some ex. gmcp code
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 14 is not a couple dozen.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Last I checked.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: sorry just over a dozen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tharnin Tech: Finger Ixle, go to his web address, he maintains/curates tintin stuff.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: ixle's got a setup
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: depends.. I had a couple dozen donts, then I ate 10 of them...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli snickers with (Overlord) Onslaught about their shared secret.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: cheezburger did lots of it, ixle put together a nice package of it
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Tharnin nods at you in agreement. 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: That will be nice.  Some exapmples will get me started a lost faster.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I know I drop out and use other languages too.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: It's amazing how many people are using the aard mush
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: why is it amazing? it works extremely well
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: not really.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so does zmud
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really to the amazing part, I mean.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it's actively-maintained, works on anything with an Intel/AMD chip, and includes damn near everything out of the box :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: it it weren't for breakou windows...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and free
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: The biggest advantage to MUSH is that it comes prepackaged with a lot of scripts people want, and it's actively being worked on.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zmud doesn't support GMCP without a proxy
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not to mention that it is free.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: semi-actively
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: More actively than CMUD is being worked on, then. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: its more amazing that there are people who use clients OTHER than the aard mushclient :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not really, Bertilak.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Inertia is a powerful force.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Exactly.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I keep getting sidetracked on stupid projects which slow down the pace of updates
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Not technically a force, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I would say the biggest reason is people don't have to do much work to play.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I've been using my client longer than all those other clients have existed ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jhav Tech: Shhh.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: What do you use ableinc?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tinyfugue
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: Yeah, that's popular around different muds.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I've been using tintin without anything except split 0 1
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I can't remember if I used zmud for longer than I've used mushclient
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: the most amazing thing is that as many people actually still play muds at all
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'm rather pimped out on tinyfugue ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I'm rather pimped out on CMUD. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't pimp anything
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I don't think muds are going away any time soon.  Not everyone likes to frag.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: arkanes does
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: i'm just lazy and mush runs on every platform well with wine
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: arkanes is dead for all I know
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I'm tempted to get in to the tintin code.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get into the mushclient code. mota knows I could use some help
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: get back to work Fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'm writing a note on a forum
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Not sure there's much in MUSH that needs to be added/done anymore, really, aside from any bug fixes.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I'm on Linux and don't run wine.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: But then, I don't use MUSH, so I wouldn't know too well.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I'm still kind of torn about build a browser client instead.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Drunk'ing Abel Tech: mush runs perfectly in wine
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: javascript and html5...hmmmm
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: please build a good browser client
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And if I understood it a bit better, I might even be tempted to switch over to MUSH. I just can't really figure out how to do some of the scripts I use, like loading a variable of mobs based on alignment vs mine and level vs. mine so all I have to do is hit a macro to kill the next mob in the variable. :\
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: make one that works well and I might use it 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Too many people are building browser clients. Too many people are failing. :p
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the first problem is that mud servers don't speak websocket
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli nods at The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: get lasher to fix that and you're all set
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: the angle of the dangle is inversely proportionate to the heat of the meat.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: wrong channel
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: that just didn't sound right.. at all...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Do you mean because he said 'proportionate' instead of 'proportional'?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I am more tempted to work with tintin because browsers have so many little glitches between them and change a lot.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: javascript doesn't change
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: nope.  And I've written pages completely in javascript.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: write a...hey wait were you the one who did the music note thing?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: oh, never mind then
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: yeah write a client
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: music note thing?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I don't know. some guy here was learning javascript and html5 and made a page that showed music scores
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: it was neat, but the code was in german so I had kind of a hard time helping
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: maybe not german? not english, anyway. I don't remember what language
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: There are too many clients with incompatible scripts, so to solve that I am going to write a new client with a new scripting language to replace them all :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you're on the right track, Ranrr
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Unfriendly Jaenelle Tech: http://xkcd.com/927/
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I think I'll get in to it once I reach R7.  Just catch, help, and pup, and program :)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I also don't want to write for a bunch of screens.  I've got 1920x1080.  All the resizing crap would be a pain.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: tell me about it
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I mean, if I write at 1920x1080 and then scale down, what gets lost?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: the will to live
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: haha
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: I suppose I could make off screen things available as popups.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: If you can't handle different screen sizes, don't be a developer.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: ranrr, ever notice how most things are limited in width on aard?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: I'd make a joke, but this isn't a curse channel
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Yes....
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: ranrr So, what are you saying about the development of aard itself?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: Well, that's one way to solve different sizes, so I guess it makes lasher a developer.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: But the mud is not responsible for presentation, the client is.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: The mud has no screen.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: Lasher isn't only the developer. He's also a client.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: that was funnier in my head
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Ranrr comforts The Jerk Fiendish.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ozu Tech: in that case do you think Lasher ever shouts at himself for scope creep?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ranrr Tech: probably
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thorzan Tech: oh well, this this wrong chan
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: can someone tell me how to make button sets if I use the android client?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Anyone available to help me install a quest miniwindow? Is this the right channel to ask on?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: can i do mapper cexit 2n or it need to be n then n? no shortcuts like 4n like zmud or cmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mapper cexit run 2n
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vesuviou Tech: ohh
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: how do i escape the semi colon in blowtorch? i need it for aliasing multi-commands but blowtorch parses it?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: use 2 of them like in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I thought it was ;;
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: didnt work
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but haven't used it in a while. Might need to try \;
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: problem is that *both* client and server use semicolon to separate commands. so dual 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: triggers eol
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you might need to bring up the options panel in the client then use the aliases tab thingy
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: thats my next plan, hoped to avoid it, since its then bound to my phone
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: try ~ before the ;
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Humbler thanks Bast heartily.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: http://bt.happygoatstudios.com/?view=options
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: oops too late I see
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: heh
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: works here not on alias?!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: nvr mind :)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: do you have to be coding in lua to gather data from gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grumbles and growls. You wonder what's wrong...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: huh? why?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: The GMCP handler only offers lua interfaces, but you could port that plugin to anything you wanted, you'd just have to put in the effort
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: yeah, wish I had time for that =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: duckbat did
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: or create a conversion plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: That gets gmcpval, sets it using SetVariable, then pull it out in an alternate interface with GetVariable
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Well, that's only if you're referring to MUSH. Frostbite didn't mention any client.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Unless I'm mistaken, it's for mush :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Therefore, you don't need to code in Lua to gather data from GMCP. You just need to know what your client uses as a GMCP handler.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: It'll probably be to slow to keep up =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: there may exist plugin or script that does what you need
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Assumptions are for morons. ;)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: so, what for you need info from gmcp?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: was gonna use personal stats like hp/mn/ect
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Can always resort to statmon :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Can also always resort to Windows 3.1. :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Next question, How does one stack commands using just one DoAfterSpecial in VBScript?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: double the ;s?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: tried that =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Are you doing Send() or Execute()?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: world.send/world.execute iirc in vb
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: also tried \n and pretty much everything else. The first command is world.enablegroup and then I wanted to attach a world.note to that command.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Show your whole DoAfterSpecial?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: doafterspecial sends to script
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: the enablegroup works just fine... I'd like the note but it's not a pivotal part of the script =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: If you post the doafter like I asked to I can look at the whole thing, I may be able to help :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: world.DoAfterSpecial 5, "world.enablegroup ""thetrig"", 0", 12
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Simple solution, create a function that does both and call that instead of your enabledgroup/trig
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: But the format of your actual send is all wrong. You have to separate strings being evaluated without any sort of concatenation or division
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: to = two
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: guess I could just use world.execute... forgive my brain... It's mush due to finals week being next week :(
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: also, fail extraneous quote after 0
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: necessary
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: How so?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: try without it =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Is this the right channel to ask for help making a trigger?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I don't screw with vb, i use Lua like a real man :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: as good as any, Fre
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at Helperful Cheezburger.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I don't screw with dentists..  I pulled out all my teeth with a pliers - like a real man
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grins evilly at Vonliege.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: =)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Wondered why your breathe was so bad :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: I want my quest info broadcasted to my group talk... Cant remember how to do it
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Mush, frey?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: What exactly do you need help with?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: guessing the parsing =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I know you want to create a trigger, and what you want to send. Are you needing help creating the trigger, getting the values, sending the values, what?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: frey: there are pre-built plugins that do that already...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Also, that being said, bast has a plugin for that already iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the best way to get the info is from GMCP which is outside triggers anyway
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: not necessarily :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yes necessarily :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: No, not necessarily. I have dozens of triggers using GMCP :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: who said triggers can't use GMCP?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You just call the handler plugin from the trigger, ereally easy.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You said it's outside of trigger, it's not due to the helper
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is outside the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: I modified/fixed Nick Gammon's quest miniwin plugin and even made it play nice with Fiendish's Miniwin plug-in :)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: I installed the plugin from bast, but it didnt bc to my gt. I dont know how to make my own trigger at all...
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you have ZERO triggers which get GMCP data via the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Bast's allows you to change where it reports
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Ok, how do I change where it reports?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helpfile for it tells how to change the report channel
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I call the helper interface, and by interacting with an interface it becomes and implementation, therefore the GMCP is now inside of the trigger due to it's schema.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can argue sematics all you want, but once you've pulled the values into the trigger environment, it's no longer outside of it's scope
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: period
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, the GMCP data is not retrieved by the trigger, cheez, you're fully incorrect
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Where do I find the helpfile?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've pulled the values into the trigger...the trigger did not get them
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the helper got them, period.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Now you're jsut splitting hairs to save face.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: ladies, there's no room for pissing contests on tech. They belong on Gclan or Imm =P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, now I'm teaching you why your statement was 100% wrong...or I would be if you would actually be teachable
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: lrn2lrn
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: and 'debate'... lot's of pissing in 'debate'
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I'm prefectly, teachable. I just don't see the point of learning from someone who's entire job it is, is to nitpick everything and call everything else wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Are we still talking about helping me change the location the plugin bc's to? 0.0
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Once I have the values from the helper, it's inside my trigger environment, end of story. Once it's inside the environment, it's no longer "outside of triggers".
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: don't claim that correct things aren't correct, and I won't point out that you're wrong :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: I can't pull directly from GMCP, yes, but I don't need to.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you do if you bothered to read what was claimed
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: And again we're back to semantics, because the Almight Abe is never wrong.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Heil Lincon!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fatal FrostBite Tech: Hopefully they're almost done with the contest Frey
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fatal FrostBite grabs some popcorn and sits back to watch the show.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: lincoln*
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: nothing semantic about it...your triggers are not how your script learns GMCP data
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You said, and I quote exactly "Which is outside of triggers", once I pull in the data, no matter the origin, it's inside the trigger. End of story.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: because gathering that data is...bum bum bum...outside triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Freyja holds her roll of tape tightly and grins wickedly.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: gathering that data is outside the triggers...the question which was being addressed was "how do I get the data"...your triggers don't get the data...your triggers are handed the data from the interface which gets the data
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can keep going if you like, but I'm kind of tired of slamming my head against this wall here.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you're tired of it...at least your head is protected }:>
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: pull it out of your butt and see how it really feels
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: but it's warm in here
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Ok, I typed in bqu and it gives me all sorts of options but I dont see anything to change where is bcs to
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Wyverex Tech: abelinc is a joke
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: You tickle Wyverex.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: in MUSH mapper cexit commands how exactly do you pause the execution of a command. it says wait (<seconds>) in help file, but not sure if it should be wait (5) for example or wait(5) or wait (<5>) or how syntax is supposed to be exactly.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: tepey: wait(5)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: kk, so no spaces. thank you.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why do bubbles appear in my bottle of water when I leave it by the window 
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}.... Hwuaijijal Tech: radiation
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: socialists have 'taxed' the water in the gaps where the bubbles are
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Fluffhead smirks at Tigernuts's saying.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: i thought that was pretty good, myself ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tigernuts Tech: (for me, that is)
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: change in vapor pressure?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: why would that makes bubbles appear, wouldn't the water just expand/contract
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: it tastes the same btw
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: minerals will distill out
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dissolved gasses will come out. the warmer the water the lower its saturation point for some gases
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: ah, so why didn't they just float to the top
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: chemistry
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: and possibly physic too
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: physics*
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: that's kinda vague
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: definitely physics, probably along the same lines as what causes flour to stick to the walls.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Psychics?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: could be due to psychics too. see if you have some sylvia brown floating around in there
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: yes it's possible it was stuck to the side of the bottle rather than just floating dormant in the water
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: possibly because the bouyancy of the gas isn't great enough to overcome the surface tension of the water yet
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Damn, science. You crazy.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: for a minute I was contemplating putting some fresh water in there instead, but it tastes ok
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: which gas is it?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: my guess would be nitrogen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: nitrogen gas in my water?! =/
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: dude you are breathing it right now
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: over 70% of our atmosphere is nitrogen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it's just "incidental air" aka atmosphere.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: try opening it up and shaking it vigorously, that should get rid of most of the nitrogen
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: well yeah I know, it just sounds crazy, figured it'd be oxygen bubbles or sommething
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: probably some O2 in there also
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Heh, opening and shaking should get rid of most of the water, too :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: shh!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oxygen is flammable, though.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Tell us more science stuff, Vorpes.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: might even be able to catch the air on fire with static electricity if you were in 100% oxygen.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i dunno about that
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it is required for combustion but i don't know if it by itself burns
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: it will accellerate it pretty well if 100%, I know that. Stupid smokers smoking on oxygen :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: more science stuff huh? ummm google mr wizard
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Heh, it will accellerate it pretty well on 33%, for that matter
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: nod it will make pretty much anything burn
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: ever seen a sawdust fire?  Talk about scary dangerous.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: i remember hearing about silo's exploding because of the fine particulate
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: never seen one in person. Just mythbusters. But have seen the remnants of silo fires
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: yea so is it safe to say that pyro goes right along with computer nerd?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: sawdust, or any cloud of flammable particulate, essentially makes the air one giant firebomb.  Introduce a flame source and the whole thing goes up immediately.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: Not a big fan of fire, to be honest. Big reason why I do ems instead of fd :P
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: a blood and guts guy, huh?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: nope. Trauma is boring. I go for the medical stuff
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It's amazing how a question about water turns into this. Not that I mind.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: you mean like heart attacks and stuff?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: it was either this or fart jokes, and i used all mine up for the day
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I feel like scripting tonight, scripting tonight!
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: but I dunno what. :(  Any ideas?
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Write me a script that lets me level with just my mind.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: can't.  Botting's not allowed.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: that script's easy.... "quit"
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Xantcha Tech: Then you can imagine you're whatever level you want
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: It's not botting if I can type with my mid
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: mind, even
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: write something that harvests the data of the market and then gives us stock market like output
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: oh, wait, I know.  I can just echo the level message and random bonus-stat stuff.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Sure, close enough
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: and with an alarm you wouldn't even need to type anything.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda . o O ( wonder how many prank scripts this'll generate...? )
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there a warfare reporting script other than Abe's?  His doesn't seem to include support for the player-called restrictions.
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: wow, this is only the second war this year with any remort restrictions...there was one noremort war in january, and this one is remortonly
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: only 6 nosn wars this year
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: but yeah, my script doesn't care about those, and I think it doesn't even gag those lines...main reason it doesn't take them into consideration is that I had the first line (level and type) be the line that determines whether to gag
T3/r7/2013-04-23.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and of course since I don't use any of my MUSH scripts, I never noticed that I wasn't gagging the restriction lines ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Hi, how do I get the text out of a File in javascript? I have some JSON I need to parse :/
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: any idea why my buttons don't work? android client
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: someone? anyone? is the channel empty?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's a pretty vague question
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: oh thank god I thought I was alone
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: we are all alone
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: folks here are more into cmud, zmud, mush, lau, VB, etc...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: part of the challenge of playing on a phone is that you are all alone in the deep-dark
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: I just can't press  em. I use my finger but no reaction from the button. it doesn't turn red
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Persley )
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: did you turn the phone on?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: lol no, I'm conversating with u via telepathy XD
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's all I know about phone clients... the phone has to be on.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: cool
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: ok, tun,thnx ) any recomendation how do I play it on pc? I saw aard for the first time while googleplay
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: to play on pc use mushclient, there is one version customised for aardwolf
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: go to www.aardwolf.com, there you find links to very good and free pc client.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: get the aardmush client off the aardwolf web site... customized client just for this mud - maps, plugins, super slick
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: tnx
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: You'll probably enjoy this game much more when playing from a PC.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: ill try
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: I'll*
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: be warned, though... if you thought this would be something fun to play from your phone, once you play via PC, you will have to be REAL desparate to play from your phone again.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Persley Tech: ill be cautious:)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: I'm using mushclient, and I used an alias which gave an error, now I can't use that alias at all. Any way to get it working again without completely reloading mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: alias from plugin?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: reload that plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl-alt-p -> choose plugin that got fubered -> reload
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: ctrl -shift-p
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: and it's not reload...reinstall rather :)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: ok. thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: perfect, that fixed it. much easier
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: you can make a xml file in notepad,right?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Freyja Tech: Right
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: xml files can be made with anything that doesn't put in strange encodings (like word)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: In case that was too ambiguous, I was saying word won't work, not the other way around :P
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ah i see going to try my hand at making a small plugin/thingy
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: VI's the best editor, though :)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Humbler Tech: emacs!
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: emacs is ok, but i LOVE VI
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Well, VIM, but essentially the same :P
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: xemacs has nice shortcuts
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Notepad++/Eclipse on windows, TextMate on MacOS, and VI on any *NIX system
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: emacs is too bloated for an operating system imho. but hey, it you can use vim in emacs so text editing is covered
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: what is the best port to log on to 23 or 4000
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: or 4010
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: it doesn't matter, all ports have the same speed
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: i mean does it make any difference in data transferred
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: no, it doesn't.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: ah i see
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: anyone know a way to stop itunes from modifying podcast subscriptions? keeps unsubcribing me from podcast updates because it thinks i havent been listening to them. but i only listen to them after transferring them to my ipod. easy enough to re-subscribe, but it's an annoyance.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: Wow, pretty presumptuous of it.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: You just invited someone to say, "Don't use iTunes." :p Personally, I use other sources. If you're able to, switch music managers.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: i know, itunes is horrible. any suggestions on a replacement? preferably free :)
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: If not, I've no clue, but I'd imagine there should be an option somewhere to not remove it.
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: not sure that's possible to get things onto the ipod, with apple's proprietary crap
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you just wanna put stuff on ipod, use winamp
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Endtime Tech: on a related note, itunes has forgotten where my music library is stored about 120 times. truly horrible program
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: winamp can transfer files to the ipod?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: it's quite heavy too
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: is that possible with mp3 files too, or just podcasts? If I could use that to put music on my iphone and give itunes the boot...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: mp3s
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: I just sync my laptop with winamp and it's good
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: has artwork or what's it called, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: huh. I'm trying to figure out how that would even work, but I may have an older version of winamp on here
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: you rightclick a playlist, Send to: ipod
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or you drag and drop
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: or you rightclick ipod device in winamp, then create playlist, or whatever
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: if you don't have the option in send to and ipod is connected for sure, get plugin separately, or just get winamp 5
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: free version
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: oh. only works with certain ipods, and not the iphone. blah
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Faylen Tech: according tot he forums at least
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: ye might be, I got ipod nano 3g or something
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dfury Tech: are there RSS feed plugins for zmud?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: on a similiar note any for mushclient?
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, talk about wrong tool for the job :P
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: shrug, you can use ZMud as an audio player...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and you can bash a nail with the handle of a screwdriver...
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: still doesn't make it the right tool for the job
T3/r7/2013-04-24.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Prince Wario Tech: you can, but a hammer works so much better along with a nail gun
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: in zmud i would use %1 for target, what do i use in MUSH?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: crickets
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: same
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but there's a bunch of other crap I don't understand that has to be in the trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: ahh
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: lemme see if I can paste a basic %1 trigger for you... compliments of Norton
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: nod
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ^kill(\s+(.*)?(\.)?(\w+)?)?$
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: holy crap seriously?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, that wouldn't work in a normal trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: yah... works though
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it allows for two word target, too
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: there's a convert to regex crap there
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not without checkboxes
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: NEVER convert to regex
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: i just need a simple k (target) = bs target
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I dunno why that button exists, there's never a reason to use it
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's not a trigger, that's an alias
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: hmm, try ^kill (.*)$
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}TrEz Tech: shrug it works for the basic stuff
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I misspoke... thats not a trigger... it's an aliase
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: k * = bs %1
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: trez: it doesn't actually do anything
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Rykor licks TrEz.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: other than reduce efficiency
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: that regex trigger was written more for spells. it allowed 1 command to target self, or a mob.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}SlapDummy Korridel Tech: Just want to reinforce - kill commands should /never/ be executed by triggers guys :)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: clicking the regular expression checkbox is something to do in order to use regex...telling MUSHclient to convert a perfectly-good glob into a regex isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: for self you can do this: ^kill(| .*)$
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: i dont need a trigger, i need an alias
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for a kill alias, do it MUDside...just "alias k bs"
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: hmm, that was too easy :)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Rykor... what I pasted is for an aliase - not a trigger.  I misspoke
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and for all those things which have been posted other than ayasinda's, not a single one of them would have worked if you'd just pasted them into a new trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: thought as much, thanks for your help
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: he needs an alias not a trigger so it turned out ok
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they also wouldn't have worked if you'd just pasted into a new alias...the patterns were invalid :P
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: huh... works fine for me
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: does too
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not if you just paste into a new alias
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no. you're forgetting a step.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: well... there's the instruction for what to actually DO to the object of the aliase... but that shoudl be self evident
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: ok one more zmud to mush question.  i have 3 chars, in zmud i would have a different .mud for each char a different command set for each, how does that work in mush?  semms i only have one command set
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no vonliege, not even that
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: go ahead, I'll wait...disable your current, click new, paste that in as the pattern, put in "echo hey I fired" as the action, and try it.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderous Norton Tech: ya need to tick the "its a regex expression" box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: you've been posting regex patterns, MUSHclient does not use them by default
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: they will simply not work without checking that box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: abelinc, all my aliases uses regex and i never check that box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: and "convert to regular expression" as suggested by trez would make them further not work ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not true, zetkax
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont define any aliases with the gui, they are all defined from lua and yes its true
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I just made a new aliase - pasted what was still in my clipboard - and it worked fine
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: there may be a global setting, or a default that we have set differently, though... I don't pretend to understand half the crap I use.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i dont use the gui for anything except the "convert to regular expression" because it easily converts mud output into regex
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: there is no global setting, both of you are incorrect
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i then past that into my lua code
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: zetkax: your lua code is setting it
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: not using the GUI doesn't mean you're not checking that box
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: i know but your statement "will simply not work without checking that box" is incorrect
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rykor Tech: getting on Vec, stil need an answer to the command set Q when you all get done *sigh
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it isn't
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes it does, its not a box being checked, its a bit being set
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: no, it is a box being checked via a script
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: rykor: you'd need a separate world for each character, or have something which is loaded on demand at login
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Vonliege readies his spell...  'cast abelinc websters'....  and the dictionary BURST into flames!
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: although im not familiar with the internals of mushclient i doubt the internal representation of whether regex is to be used is determined by a widget, it would be a bit in a mask
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Attack Vector Tech: hmm... that seems inconvienient... whereas Zmud would load them with each char... what a pain.  oh well thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: all fun aside - we'd be diminished without Abelinc.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: The Attack Vector pets you.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: sure, you'd still think that you can use regular expressions in MUSH without expressly telling it that the pattern is not the glob that it expects ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: alias_flag.RegularExpression <- what i do
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: right...so you check that checkbox ;-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: its not a checkbox
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: open up the alias and tell me it's unchecked then :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: ya... but it gets to the same result
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyob
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone have a samsung smarttv
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: so I'm blocked from the aardwolf mud site at work.  is the aardmush client actually hosted at aardwolf.com or somewhere else?  if somewhere else, would you mind letting me know the link?  Thaks!
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Purrrrific Growltiger Tech: finger fiendish
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Typo Qurrm Kallendbor Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RaVirr Tech: hi i just asked this question on newbie but no one knows the answer...
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}RaVirr Tech: i can't seem to turn echo off on my communications log?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: you mean that right click and echo all / echo none doesn't make any difference ?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Is there an wasy way to access GMCP data in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: sure. there are lots of plugins using it. And there is a bit of info on the aardwiki
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: So no nice and clean way
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: what is nice and clean to you? It's not that hard to get gmcp data
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: don't want to do a plugin, just an alias to populate data from gmcp.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Not Guilty Kojiro Tech: why does my phone charge faster in a outlet than plugged into usb of my pc
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The River Styx Tech: more power
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: More current?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Hey guys.. So I'm trying to get visual studio 2010 installed. I've tried to install it twice now, and neither time has it had all the header files in the vc/include folder (namely the iostream header). Anyone have any idea why that might be?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: bad copy?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Did you torrent it?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: No.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Have you checked for all the directories to see if they are there?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: The vc/include directory is there, yes. But with none of the headers.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: what os
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Windows 7.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Eutychus Tech: Where are you looking?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: You have all of the Visual Studio 2010 prereq?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yeah, it installed those during the process.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: could it be a missed optional library
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: I had an issue installing it on win7, but forgot the exact issue
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: When I installed express a couple months ago it worked fine. One page I just found said something about how it gets messed up if a version was previously installed and removed.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: that is correct, express and pro or whatever the 2nd version is has issues when both are present
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yeah. I removed express, and even tried deleting all traces of it ever being on there, and still nothing. Trying an uninstall utility now that microsoft has.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: mats?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: probably not helpful, http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/774158/re-installed-visual-studio-2010-and-c-standard-headers-are-missing
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: the issue i had was with the installation process, but not with missing files
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: if i find anything of note, i will let you know, have to go for dinner shortly
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Hmm, took a look, registry thing looks like an idea, so gonna try it and try reinstalling.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Someone ran over the cables for the satellite internet with the lawnmower.  The dish is labeled TX and RX, and the end at the house is labeled input and output.  Anyone know which connects to which?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: tx and rx means transmit and receive?
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: yes
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: Well then, transmit would be output, and receive would be input.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: That's what I would think.  Assuming "input" means input into the modem, and "receive" means receive from space.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: looks like you have a 50/50 chance... not like you're going to fry anything
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: That was my thought as well.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Rikitiki Takihisis Tech: try it, if it doesn't work, switch it.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Leinei nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Alright, monitoring the install and it has the headers in the directory now. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Gotta go out and get new ends first
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: bahhhh... twist it and suct tape it
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: re: VS 2010 install; sounds like good news for now
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Yep. Doing a quality check now.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: sounds promising, i remember seeing that article in february 
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Cuddlez Tech: Looks like its working. Thanks for linking that. :D
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zelog Tech: great
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: When i list something it shows ~20 lines and i have to press enter to see more
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: is there a way to make it list all straight away
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: pagesize 0
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: or at least increase the amount of lines
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: be wary of long lists if you use 0, they'll probably disconnect you.
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: what about just increasing the amount of lines
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: so do it, do pagesize 300
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: same deal, if you go high enough, plus you get to deal with the page prompts
T3/r7/2013-04-25.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Viprus Tech: ill give it a crack, thanks for the help guys
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: do any one knows a website where i can upload .jpg and get a link for it to share with some one?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vuron Tech: imgur
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: there are imgur is good
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: there are plenty of them though
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: thank you very much
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: I'll take a peek at imgur
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a 'delay' or 'wait' command for building an alias in mush?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In the normal gui style, no - but if you send to script, I believe in later versions of aardmush there is a wait() function or similar
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: how many KB of data do you suppose the average player here absorbs a day?sca
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Depedins on the activity level of said user.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Depends on whether you include map getting / other external uses
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: interesting Q
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Someone pupping, is going to incur massively more than someone qsitting at level 1
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: 2MB
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Total mud traffic, fairly minimal
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: type "compress", it will show you if you have mccp on
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bast Tech: I used half a mb in about an hour, but I have been campaigning
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ontuct Tech: there is always data we see, that we read but isn't important to our play... ie With a thunderclap potatosalad appears in the room.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: simple trigger question.. I want to color one part of a line - (Golden Aura)* but I need to match the rest, but NOT color it.  what do I need to put around the match text?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}<SneakY> Slyzora Tech: WoW just changed to EDGE from 3G , made no difference... wierd still fast no lag at all
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Ugh. Is there no way to tell Microsoft Word, "Hey, look, I don't want to have to right-click, select 'Paste Values Only' just to get you to stop pasting the format!"? :\
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: use the right-click button on lower-right corner of keyboard next to the windows key? keypress quicker than mouse click
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: It wouldn't really be in this case, unfortunately. It's a mess of a task I'm working on, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: have you tried phoning bill?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: is that what that button does,hmmmm.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: And additionally, my laptop does not have one of those keys.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: keep a usb keyboard with you at all times.. cannot survive withotu a number pad
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: Right. My game computer has a USB keyboard. I can't live without it. My work/school computer, however, doesn't really need one, for the most part.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: I do have a USB mouse for it, though. I simply cannot live without that.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: what version windows?  my work computer lets you change default paste options (2010) home ribbon > down button under paste > set default paste > cut, copy, and paste section > select boxes have "keep text only" options
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: or version office, rather
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: 2010.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: also file > options > advanced gets same place
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: That works, thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Book of Etzli has no clue how he has never seen that before...
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: so in the good old days (zmud) I could set up a system of triggers to turn themselves off using "#T- whatever" through the actual course of using said trigger
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: well done
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in mushclient I know how to 'enable' or not going through the menu every time, but what's the way to enable or disable from command line?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: EnableGroup ("groupname", 1/0)
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: starting with your script prefix which you set in mush
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: or DisableGroup ("groupname", 1/0) ?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: what's the 1/0 for?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: no, use enable group, 1=true 0=false
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: ah
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}GraySong Gregor Tech: 1 turns it on, 0 turns it off
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: gotcha
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Teklor Tech: if i wanted to make a trigger fire from basts statmon report how would i do that....doesn't seem to work
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anyone know if you can buy Kindle Fire apps as gifts without having a Kindle Fire?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I'd say just give an amazon gift card
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, I know you can just get an amazon gift card, but these apps are on sale for a short period
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: maybe this http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000426311
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: I don't know that you can transfer apps across accounts
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Looks like that might just do Kindle stuff (i.e. books), not Kindle Fire stuff, Hadar.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, that's just ereader software
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: I could get access to the account if I needed to
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But can you buy stuff without a kindle?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: actually: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200375760#gift
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: oh lol wrong link then
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: still just talks about kindle books, Hadar, not appstore apps
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, you can access the amazon appstore from any android device, it looks like
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but don't know if I'd be able to use an amazon account to purchase stuff on it.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: guess I can try
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: did you say you have access to the account?
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: It's for my mother.  I could call her and get the username/password if I needed to
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: actually, I might even know it
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: yeah, if you can access the account, you should be able to gift card the account and then buy the app, then they can download it on the fire as a previously-purchased app
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: if you go to amazon on a pc, and try to buy a kindle app, it asks you to download the appstore (which isn't a windows file, it's an .apk file)
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: android
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: But I'll try on my phone in a bit
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: afk for a sec, though
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: no way to send it as a gift though
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: im looking right now
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Yeah, so looks like the best/only option is to figure out if I can user her account to purchase them without having access to her Kindle Fire.
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: if it works like the google market, you can buy it on any device and transfer it to all devices you own
T3/r7/2013-04-26.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Can you even switch accounts on an android phone?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: How would I go about accessing gcmp data?  Is it possible through an alias?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: what do you want to do with that data?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: wanted to do a mini window for quest info and stuffs
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Thunderax Tech: bast already has that for mush
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: ahh nod, i want to do the same but drawing guis in mushclient seems tedious
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: seriously a pain
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: are you doing this from lua? if not, i cant help
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I guess the easy answer also is I looked at getting GMCP data using a plugin and it looked... fun and was hoping
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: a solution I can work and build on rather than scratching head
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: in lua i have some code to get the room number as follows
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: require "gmcphelper"
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: I haven't waited so intently for someone to talkin a bit =p
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: res, gmcparg = CallPlugin("3e7dedbe37e44942dd46d264", "gmcpval", "room")
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: luastmt = "gmcpdata = "..gmcparg
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: assert(loadstring(luastmt or "")) () <--- not sure what this does
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: local lCurrRoomNum = tonumber(gmcpval("info.num"))
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: Thanks now to take it for a spin,  I really apreciate it
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: so i tried just popping into an alias, I got this error [string "Alias: "]:3: attempt to concatenate global 'gmcpar' (a nil value)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Zetkax Tech: all that stuff was in an lua script, i dont know how to do that stuff using gui
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Karang Tech: time to fit a square through a circle :p
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i bought a new sata hard drive for my pc...but my pc isent picking it up at all any ideas what might be wrong?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: my curent HDD is a ide but my motherboard has sata ports
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Queen Bee Noegel Tech: Are your SATA ports enabled in the BIOS?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: here is the funny thing...my optica drive gets picked up but my bios doesent have a sata option only ide
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Baby steps - is the HDD/SSD connected to both power and the mobo? Then, does it appear in POST?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: its conected but desent apear anywhere
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: So when the black screen spits out all the info on primary and slave drives, there is no info on the new drive?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nope
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Know your mobo's model #?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: sadly i dont...is there a way to check it?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Should be somewhere in both POST and BIOS
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Or printed on it, of course
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok let me look on it
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ep-8kmm3i-x
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Well that one is compatible with SATA 2.0, at least - and should absolutely have an option in BIOS to manage that
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HDD or SSD?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok uhm...im not sure what sata drive i have
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: afaik they are backwards compatible, should just be 2.0 speeds if you have plugged in a SATA 3 drive
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: i checked bios it has 0master 0slace 1master 1slave all ide
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Right, but is the SATA a platter or solid state?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: again in english please :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: HDD or SSD - big, heavy and chunky, or slim and light
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: heavy and chunky
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: How do you feel about turning the machine on while open? Don't do it if you aren't comfortable with it, but it would help if you could tell if the disc is spinning up when you power on
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: the box is alwyse open :P....well uhm..ill have to reboot so ill be gone alittle but brb
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Say what? That seems rather bad as far as airflow and dust is concerned...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I clean it weekly it gets heated easy so I leave it open
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh. That's probably not good
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Queen Bee Noegel nods.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok its not spinning
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: In that case you have power issues - trace the power cable back to the PSU, make sure it's not a modular cable you unplugged for w/e reason, and if possible switch cables to an alternate
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I take that means switch power cabels...on it!
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: so I used my optical drive's power cable...I had the hard drive to my ear and..well I think maby there whas a small hum lol
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Tell me you have that drive locked into place...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: let's go with that yes :)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so..still not showing up
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Because that hum is a disc spinning at many times a second, and if you were to pick it up while it was spinning you would see a similar effect to punching a top while it was spinning...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: If the drive is spinning up, and is connected via SATA and is not being detected, could be one of: dud drive, dud SATA cable, dud SATA port, dud mobo, new mobo firmware needed, or a computer gremlin.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: well judging by the sound from my other hard drive it whas just the van vibrations I heard as stil no drive showing
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Oh, so no spin? Dud drive
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Esp if the optical was firing up ok on that rail
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: it whas I even used the power cable from my old hard drive..stil not spinning
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Definitely dud drive then
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: dangit...just my stinking luck
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: thanks for the help
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: np - I would feel a lot better if you closed that box, though
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Get a bigger fan or heatsink or something, but close it
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol :P prepare to have nightmares...I don't even have to cover anymore :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Then a dud drive is the least of your worries. Even if you and your potential pets or children fail to electrocute themselves, the dust getting into places you can't or forget to clean will fry the whole thing sooner rather than later
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Not to mention a dropped bit of foil or screw, etc
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol I'm messing with you :P its a new box has built in fan on the side
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok so when I go exchange it rather get another ide HDD?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: SATA would be my choice
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: but like i said...no sata options in bios
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: They'll be there :-)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: That mobo comes with SATA enabled by default
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol you sound like the wizard of oz :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: ok thanks :) ill bug you again next ween saterday :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: week*
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: o another question
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: windows 7 sucks...and i want to install xp pro again but it wont let me brings up a error you already have a newer version of windows installed...anyway around that?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Win 7 is the bomb - but an OS wipe will take care of your downgrade needs :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: lol :P its just my misic is all..sticky doesent want to play well..thus i hate windows 7 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: music :P...i need glasses :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: mushclient: my window with the ascii map disappeared, how do i get it back?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Grissom Tech: oh wait he has me ignored
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: resetaard
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: thanks!
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: it did not appear..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: go to plugins ad reset the ascii map plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Grissom boggles at the concept.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: I should also say I don't know what I'm talking about :P lol
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: ctrl+shift+p..reinstall Aardwolf_Ascii_Mapper
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: see! I whas right..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: [Deputy] Sabertooth flexes his muscles...what a stud!?!
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: might be a random case of blacked out miniwidow
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: thanks, it worked.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Samar Tech: no, it is systematic if i disable the scan window..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: Bast miniwindows does that sometimes to me.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: Anyone know of a good map drawing program? 
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: colored pencils and graph paper works pretty good
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Troxic Tech: I am looking for something less, umm, caveman-like... =P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: is it just me or is the mush mapper for thandeld's conflict a lil off?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think it's just you
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: how can u reset mush map for an area?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you mean mapper purgezone. Best to look at 'mapper help utils' to be sure
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}JunkInThe Torunkes Tech: thanks =)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: cant access netflix :(
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: omg this is annoying !!! i want net flix  cant figure out whats wrong
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: ?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: tried two comps and different browsers and cant get to netflix
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: symptoms, messages, general info?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.netflix.com
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: no problem here
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage 
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: unplug your router for 30 seconds, and plug it back in
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: tech yahoo, msn, other sites working on port 80?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Go to 69.53.236.17
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: seems like i can get on through my phone tho connected to router
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: windows 7?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea can get to any other site
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I go with Hadar. Turn your router off for 30 secs
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: on windows 7
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Not 31 seconds, though, or it'll break everything
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: tried router reset .. ill try again
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: 30.2321 is fine.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: Yes, that is within the acceptable range
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: I've even had success with 30.812
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: That's very rare
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: wow. lucky you
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: start type cmd, when it pops up type ipconfig /release then ipconfig /flushdns then ipconfig /renew ... if the power cycle does not work
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Trurien Tech: Oddly enough, 802.11 was most successful.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Aizma Tech: -_-
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: did flushdns
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: sec resetting router again
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: hmm looks like he can't connect to anything now. Router broken completely.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: try turning security off entirely?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: guess i did not unplug router long enough last time
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: it works now?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: helps to pull modem too
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: worse comes to worse, kick it, that fixes everything
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: actually that is only a successful intervention for television or washer/dryer and some other household appliances
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}(Overlord) Onslaught Tech: in the case of modems/routers you have to spill coffee or orange juice into them
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: yea it works ..
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: i guess it needed to be exactly 30 seconds :P
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Elchanan Tech: 29 seconds did not work earlier
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: anyone know off hand what the current sweet spot is for $/gig for SSDs?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: is there a way to transfer my maps from my other mush client to my laptop?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: do you have a flash drive?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: i just got a new laptop and its pretty much like starting from scratch
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mattk Tech: could i email it and where could i find the file
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: if you have a flash drive, you can install mush on it so you can use it on any device with a usb port.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: the file is in whatever folder you installed mush.  Dunno which file you need, but it's gonna be named something related to Aardwolf and will have a database file extension (ie, aardwolf.db)
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: If you're going to run it from a flash drive, make sure its a decently speedy one... the mapper and such work terribly from slow media
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: they have different seek rates like hdd?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Anyone use Mush with Wine?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daloran Tech: I prefer to mush with beer.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: No, none of us do that on here. Ever. Or followed the guides.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: If anyone has a serious answer I am curious if you have experienced any issues with INFO notices.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: I've never had any problems with it. Well, any more than I had with windows
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fluffhead Tech: been using it exclusively under wine for at least 6 months
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Good to know.  I am capturing everying correctly EXCECPT for INFO notices.  
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Other than that, It works great/
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: have you checked the capture other info?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Nuanse Tech: from under com log right mouseclick?
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Six-String Strazor nods at Nuanse.
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Six-String Strazor Tech: Actually, for whatever reason ctrl + click is not working...
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: is there an easy way to make gmcp based triggers in gmcp
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: mushclient sorry
T3/r7/2013-04-27.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Akuri Tech: lol
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Fravardin Tech: do we have any technology reviewers here?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i like this item, it looks nice in the box, in the next video we will unbox it join me for that!
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i reviewed
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: heh, I used to do tech reviews for a graphics tech website, but that was over a decade ago
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Redryn Tech: does mush automatically insert a newline break between functions if you're using colortell?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: is there a way to make mush run faster? im on a verry slow connection
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Sharkin Zanion Tech: turn off the porn
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: nothing els running but mush
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: is there easy way to get speedwalks to low level areas ?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: I mean I would like what areas in range 1-70 have longest speedwalks
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Trachx Tech: just to consider them for getting some portal
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: in Mush... is there a prefix needed to call an alias from within an alias?  like the @ is used for variables?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Set the "send to" to Execute.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: send to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Worl won't evaluate inner, but execute will.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: wold*
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: omfg, world**
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: gotcha... what about the parts of the alias that are ment for the world... will they be parsed?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Yes, it's like sending to world exactly, except that each of the parsed items is re-evaluated
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: guess I can always just try it... worst that can happen is I get nuked
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: It's not fun
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: thanks, chessy
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: how would i set up a triger to duel the weap i had before the mapper used a portal?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Change your portal alias :P
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: #alias {wp *} {get '%1' portals;wear %1;enter;dual @dualed;put '%1' portals}
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: history 3
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: sorry mistell
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: it's -h 3 :P
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: now I have to go read "history 3"
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: DANGIT
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Easiest way is to send "p" when you see "Your eyes glaze over."
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: mis
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: - have a question - i just installed a plugin that is supposed to help with adding in commands during a fight - got that part worked out, but for some reason it messed up my ak command from mapper - does anyone know why it might have done that or what i can do to fix it?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: AK isn't mapper, thats S&D
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: First try would be to reinstall S&D
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: is there a way in blowtorch to copy output?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: long click, yeah
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: long-press should let you do that
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: just tryied that :( - didn't work - think it is messing up the k part of it somehow - like it aliased something else to k - get command you don't know how to target when i type k mob
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: doesn't work for me. i just get button creation.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Been a while since I used, double tap zoom or highlight?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: uninstall the new plugin
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: hmm, has BT2 been released yet? that's where the text selection widget came in
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: http://www.offsetnull.com/blowtorch/v2-new-features-guide/
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: hmm
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Lorken Tech: if i imported a plugin and it installed a bunch of triggers and aliases - is there a way to uninstall it all or do i have to go through and remove each trigger and alias myself?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: the plugin should be fully self-contained
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Install it as a plugin from now on, don't import the parts :P
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it should not put ANY triggers in your game -> configuration -> triggers
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: that's the point of the plugin system architecture
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}The Jerk Fiendish Tech: trying the v2 test version now.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: this sucks, can play aard but can't surf the web.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: What kind of programming language does Aardwolf use?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Lua frontend C backend
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: it is written in C...it employs Lua
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Floki Tech: ka thanks :)
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Hello. Does anyone one here know how to make the movement buttons work for the droid app? When I try to use buttons it just scrolls my text screen instead as if I had tried to just touch a random section of screen
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Hmm, they've always worked for me.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Dreckis Tech: my blowtorch app has been like that for quite a while now, no idea if its just some phones
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Are you on a phone or a tablet?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Tablet
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Nods, last time I recall someone having problems like that was on a tablet, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: don't remember if it was that exact thing or something different
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: but something to do with buttons
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: No idea why, though
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Alright, thanks anyhow. Just would be so convenient if they worked so didnt have to keep closing and reopening my keyboard.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: When my laptop is back from rma I'll look into a desktop mud client
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: when building a gaming computer, is there a windows version i should go for? would 7 be the best?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: win 8 is a complete flop.  It may or may not be superior to 7, but the
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: err, the entire market has effectively become disinterested.  The next few service packs or even Win9 are going to be a bit of a small step backwards as Windows tries to undo the Win8 damage.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was never planning on using win 8 im going to build the computer from scratch, was just wondering if i should get 7 or another version
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Deneroth Tech: Definitely 7
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: I wouldn't go any earlier than 7.  Everything else is just way too old, and there aren't any viable alternatives coming out of Apple or the nix collective.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: what would you recommend for a screen? im using an old dell tower i'm getting for free, so i guess i just have to find a way to work things around that
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: screen is more about enjoyment than technical ability.  Just park yourself in front of, say, TVs or Monitors at your local computer/home theatre store and figure out what's just too big or too small.  Can also look at other stuff like LCD vs LED and OLED, and maybe supported screen resolutions, but several feature points just aren't standardized yet.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was thinking two 24" i might just do like a 27 and call it done
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: is there really much demand in gaming for dual monitoring?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i was going to use it for gaming/programming, im to lazy to game more then 1.5-2 hours unless its aard
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: whats the differece between HDD and SSHD?
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Marsa Tech: solid state, it doesn't actually have disc. cmiiw
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i know what SSD is, i guess there is a SSHD that has a disk or something like that
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: where the information is written, basically.  HDD has a magnetized disk that spins to locate specific portions of the disk beneath the laser.  SSDs use some sort of plate, directly implanting electrons or something to influence the shape of the magnetic field.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: I've never seen it referred to as SSHD, but it might be referring to a hybrid drive.  Basically small amount of SSD with larger spindle based HDD.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}HelperMan Hadar Tech: i saw the term on newegg while looking at hard drives, thats why i was like what
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hanslanda Tech: standards are used only when they absolute have to be.  It's like this in everything involving computers.
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Daesilme Tech: OB: http://xkcd.com/927/
T3/r7/2013-04-28.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: Hanslanda giggles.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: aard mush: how do i lock the widnows in place?
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tech: aard layout lock
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ophelion Tech: thanks Abe.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Deputy] Sabertooth Tech: im mush client if you use a clan exit does the mapper note it and use it in future
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: you might have to set a Cexit for the exits. lots of clan rooms cant be mapped 
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: Does anyone have a MUSH plugin that will convert a MUSH map to an image output?
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I want to generate Emerald-style maps from my MUSH maps
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't think you can that way
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'd be curious to know what they use for their maps (all of them).  I've seen some that say "created with xxx", but I don't recall.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: I think people do them by hand
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Quadrapus Tech: If that isn't the case, I want to talk to whoever does them
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I think Ani said she did hers with excel :P
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Alhena had a tool for iirc
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: when you say "by hand", I'll assume you mean with a  "vector graphics computer program"  - I'd be curious to know what program they use
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I think you "vector graphics compuer program" if also called microsoft paint
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: Flawty did a few maps just recently. you can ask here how she made hers
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: paint is raster
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: great old school tool for making maps
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: and yeah, alhena had a mapping program
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: "paint" is a bit-map (aster) prgram
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ayasinda Tech: I don't care what type of program it is. I made lots of maps with it
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K.. they were probrbly pretty maps, too... Just had to go "Abelinc" on you.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: there is a rand mcnally joke here some where
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Book of Etzli Tech: There's an Apple's Map joke in there somewhere, too.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vorpal Vorpes Tech: thought apple maps was a joke
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: who's fooling who... any conversation that has anything to do with making maps for a space that doesn't really exist is a joke.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: but I'd be sad with out them
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I've used open office impress to make a few maps for my personal use - and it would be more than capable of making "aard wiki" worthy maps.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: that's the open source "microsoft powerpoint" clone
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Mye Tech: why design maps when you can design a map-designing program? so much more fun
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Chimeishio Tech: I tried using Visio, but the focus group didn't like the 1 to many relations
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'm more into making phone calls. not making phones.
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Farcodor Tech: The game keeps disconnecting when using the 'bigmap' command, is this a known issue?
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}ElFeneri Tech: I guess you have a bad connection
T3/r7/2013-04-29.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vost Tech: it may be resolvable if you use mccp
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Hollister Tech: some of my processes take like 50% of my cpu, and even if I end it. a random process would do the same afterwards. I'm guessing... virus?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: http://xkcd.com/1180/
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: so. true.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: eh, there's an overlap at least >0... that venn is misleading
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: slow internet could indicate botnet issues, application crashing could indicate a compromised OS. Small, but definitely not 0
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Remember, lusers are dumb enough that we need not exaggerate to make them look worse.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: check the diagram again
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Computer problems that make people say 'maybe it has a virus' <=> Computer problems caused by viruses.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Again, not 0 overlap
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: exactly. it's never a virus
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is sometimes a virus
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: no
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: it can be some sort of malware, but never a virus
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: modern viruses don't cause noticeable problems that would make people say that
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: >>A computer virus is a computer program that can replicate itself[1] and spread from one computer to another.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: A botnet, which may well cause internet slowdown when used to run a DDOS, etc. is a virus.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: the alt-text is also very good
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Eh, once you've seen a company policy that all drives be defragged daily, when that company has just installed SSDs, there really isn't anything left to surprise you :-P
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Jaenelle Tech: any quick way to scan a folder for corrupt images? :P
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Load it into lightroom
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: is there a way to designate a single line of a "world" alias to go to "execute"?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: yes, just put: world.Execute("whateveryouwanthere")
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: Ok.. in quotes and parens?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: the parethesis denotes text
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I'll try it
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: if you want it to execute some commands etc you wouldn't want parethesis I don't think
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: just not working... tried all permutatinos of ( and "
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: what are you trying to get the alias to do?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: it is primarily a "runto" alias with a "mapper goto xxxxx" after
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: okay actually I think you have to have the "send to" set to script
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: to use world.execute
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: K... the alternative (and not that big of a deal) is to spell out the "goto" with "run xxxxx"
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: you could probably just set the sendto to execute
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: unless you have commands in there that you don't want evaluated as aliases etc
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: then you wouldn't have to use anything special to get it to execute the mapper command portion
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: the initial "run xxxx" uses a clan hall portal, so that has to be parsed by the world
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Vonliege Tech: I just did the "mapper goto xxxx" part manually...  works okie dokie
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: no it doesn't
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: You can do execute just fine and still use your clan hall portals.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: unless you have "run" as an alias in your client, then it doesn't have to use anything special to do that part
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Bertilak Tech: if run is an alias within your client, then execute will do something weird with it
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: HOW DO I GET MY MAPS FROM ONE CLIENT TO ANOTHER .?SOORY FOR CAPS
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: HI
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It depends on the clients
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: It's not a trivial thing though.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}[Outlaw] Mendaloth Tech: What client are you moving from/to
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: It is usually quite difficult, and I would recommend just starting over - unless you mean upgrading mush to mush or something?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok lol um mush to mush
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Ferun Tech: what client?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: You need to hang onto the aardwolf.db file
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: ok lol um mush to mush:)
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: thanks
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}StArLiGhT Tech: that file in the file db_backups ?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: why would my timers just quit? don't think i did anything, just happened.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Captain HR Vakieh Tech: Ticked the global disable?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: umm...can you be more specific? i didn't do anything, just noticed my tick timer not counting down, and reloaded mush and still the same thing.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: also tried reloading plugin tick timer and it says warning: timers not enabled
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Helperful Cheezburger Tech: Do me a quick favor and type 'autotick' and see if you turned it off somehow
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: it just says i will be informed when the mud 'ticks'
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: which it did, but still not showing on the time to tick display at the bottom of my screen like normal.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Tepeyollotl Tech: looks like it must be something in BAST plugins, can't access any of them via keyboard input. eg eqs, and my spellup timers aren't decrementing either.
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Seltsimees Dagnir Tech: finally upgraded to a ssd. not bad
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Doc Holliday Tech: anyone built a mame arcade?
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Anyone know an easy way to record a short (~5 seconds) sound clip that's being produced by an application? (windows 7)
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: Other than holding a mic up to the speakers
T3/r7/2013-04-30.txt.gz:{chan ch=tech}Leinei Tech: nvm, got it